View Full Version : Can my Marantz VP-12s2 PJ display 1080p?


PaulG
10-22-09, 10:06 PM
I haven't tried feeding blue ray to my projector yet, but wondering if it will accept and display 1080p through the "aux"/pc input?

the other inputs go up to 1080i, so I'm thinking maybe, but don't yet have a blue ray disc player to test.

Can anyone help answer?


Many thanks!

drewski11
10-22-09, 10:24 PM
I'm not sure what the point would be for that. It's a 720p native projector, yes? So it will have to downscale 1080 to 720 anyway unless the PJ scaler is better than in your Blu-Ray player.

703
10-22-09, 11:07 PM
No it doesn't.

Jason Turk
10-23-09, 09:31 AM
No 720 native can really display 1080p. Even if a 720p projector takes a 1080p input, it downconverts it to 720p. That being said, I cannot 100% answer your question on if the VP12S2 will take 1080p inputs, but if I had to guess I would highly doubt it.

mark haflich
10-23-09, 06:45 PM
The solution is to let your Bluray player output 720p and watch that. A digital display must display everything at the displays native rate. Here 720p. If you feed it something else, it will change it to 720p. The Marantz because of certain chip limitations on its inputs can not accept 1080p which even if it could would have to down convert it to 720p. Let your Bluray play down convert 1080p to 720p.

LilGator
10-23-09, 07:14 PM
Would feeding the Marantz 1080i be better than feeding it 720p depending on the player? Can it handle proper conversion?

I know I'd rather my display do 1080 -> 720 than letting my PS3 do it, but other players might have a better scaler for outputting 720.

I'm guessing a quality VP would be useful here, 1080p24 -> VP -> 720p -> 12s2

Tryg
10-23-09, 07:24 PM
Do whatever looks best! Not what theoretically should look best.

mark haflich
10-23-09, 07:38 PM
Tryg is correct. But theoretically, if a Bluray is 1080p, then letting it scale to 720p theoretically should be better than letting it interlace 1080p to 1080i and then letting the projector deinterlace and then scale to 720p.

Jason Turk
10-23-09, 09:28 PM
Would feeding the Marantz 1080i be better than feeding it 720p depending on the player? Can it handle proper conversion?

I know I'd rather my display do 1080 -> 720 than letting my PS3 do it, but other players might have a better scaler for outputting 720.

I'm guessing a quality VP would be useful here, 1080p24 -> VP -> 720p -> 12s2

You could do it that way, but whether that would be better than having the player do it would totally depend on the player. An older one might have an inferior processor to the Marantz, but if you have a relatively current BD player, that is not likely going to be the case.

PaulG
10-24-09, 11:02 AM
Thanks guys, really helpful!

Sounds like I would be best to hang with 720p. My current DVD (Denon DVD-3910) is currently sending 720p to the marantz via. HDMI/DVI cable. I've got the DVD player direct wired to the PJ, as my A/V pre (Anthem AVM-20v.21) doesn't switch HDMI.

Given the discussion above, would there be any benefit at all to replacing the Denon with Blue Ray if the BR player was only scaling @ 720p?

I guess if I had HDMI running from DVD and going through my A/V processor (which would then mean replacing the Anthem...) maybe I'd get some audio benefits, but not sure I'd get any video improvement from what I have currently....do I have this right or wrong?

Any other suggestions for getting my now somewhat out-dated system closer to current without breaking the bank? I fell away from this hobby for a few years and got left behind. :-)

Thanks again!

Tryg
10-24-09, 11:28 AM
Thanks guys, really helpful!

Sounds like I would be best to hang with 720p.




My suggestion is to not waste any more money on peripheral equipment. If you want better video quality you have to go with a 1080p projector. Forget the processors and players.

PaulG
10-24-09, 11:35 AM
My suggestion is to not waste any more money on peripheral equipment. If you want better video quality you have to go with a 1080p projector. Forget the processors and players.

I was afraid someone would say that (I was trying to avoid this obvious fix).
My concern is my once $$$ Marantz is probably next to worthless these days and not sure what best replacement options would be. Maybe I should just leave it alone for now.

Tryg
10-24-09, 11:40 AM
There are sub $2000 1080p projectors that probably throw a better picture then all your fancy equipment of yesterday.

The VP and expensive disk players are becoming less and less valuable in the equation.

stanger89
10-24-09, 02:21 PM
I was afraid someone would say that (I was trying to avoid this obvious fix).
My concern is my once $$$ Marantz is probably next to worthless these days and not sure what best replacement options would be. Maybe I should just leave it alone for now.

If you want consistently high/current video quality you basically have to abandon any idea that your equipment is an investment. It isn't.

It doesn't matter how much you paid for, or how good it was at the time, no amount of money spent on any amount of "supplemental" equipment (video processors, players, etc) can change the fact that an old, out of date (performance wise) display is old and out of date.

At this point in time you basically have to decide if you want to pay for top performance, and accept that you'll take a bath on it in a year or two, or if you want to avoid taking a bath, and accept that you're not going to get top performance.

Jason Turk
10-24-09, 02:45 PM
My suggestion is to not waste any more money on peripheral equipment. If you want better video quality you have to go with a 1080p projector. Forget the processors and players.

I don't entirely agree with this. Though there are many 1080p projectors that will outperform this, there are 720p's as well. The resolution isn't the end all be all. Moreoever, there are 1080p's that are vastly INFERIOR to the Marantz he has now, so it will totally depend on what he looks at.