View Full Version : Harmony 1100 or Phillips Color Pronto?


Chrisx510
10-26-09, 10:57 AM
Is there anything the Pronto TSU9600 does that the Harmony 1100 doesn't? Which would you guys recommend?

mdavej
10-26-09, 12:10 PM
Is there anything the Pronto TSU9600 does that the Harmony 1100 doesn't? Which would you guys recommend?They're really not even in the same league. If you have the cash, the philips is light years ahead of the harmony in every way. The harmony can't even do sequences (macros), much less Wi-fi or RS232. But making use of all that power requires a lot of programming expertise or a custom installer to program it for you. If you have a big complex system (home automation, A/C, computers, etc.) and want ultimate programming flexibility, go for the philips. If your needs are fairly simple and you want to be able to program it easily out of the box, go for the harmony.

Given that, I'd buy based on the features you'll actually use rather than who has the most features on its spec sheet.

On the other hand, although they look nice, I prefer a remote I can use by feel (without having to look at it at all), and not have go through several pages to get to the function I want. I don't care about the pretty icons on the screen. I want to look at the tv and not my remote. Since my ultimate goal is to watch tv (or bluray or whatever) with the fewest button presses, the remote that gets me there the quickest wins in my book. So unless I really couldn't live without all the bells and whistles of the philips, I personally can't recommend either.

Chrisx510
10-27-09, 04:35 AM
Thanks.. I think I'll just order the 1100. I just have to see who has the best deal on this remote.

NoAxToGrind
11-05-09, 01:15 PM
Hard to recommend any Harmony device. Bad support. Bad manuals. Hard-to-read screens.

scottns
11-10-09, 03:46 PM
I've used Phillips for years. Yes, they have a steeper learning curve but they work wonderfully once they are programmed. They do what I want when I want it because everything is completely customizable. I'm not an expert or an installer and I figured out the software on my own. If your computer literate (not just an average web server) you can figure it out.

|| Vitty ||
11-27-09, 11:22 AM
What are macros? I am looking for a remote to do activities such as turn on my tv, power on my receiver, set my tv's input and turn on my cable box. I know the Harmony can do this and I'm sure the philips can too. However, I would also like the remote to go into my tv's settings menu and make some tweaks in there on the same button press. Can either remote do this all with the push of one button(such as "Watch TV")?

MarkH
11-30-09, 01:15 AM
What are macros?

You answered this yourself in that very post!

Chrisx510
12-02-09, 07:06 AM
I bought the 1100 and wasn't to impress with it.. I guess I was expecting a little more customization. I returned it and got a harmony 890 from Amazon for $99! Im loving it way more then the 1100 even though the 1100 looked cooler.:cool:

|| Vitty ||
12-02-09, 03:13 PM
I too purchased the 1100 and returned it. It was a very nice looking remote but it couldn't do half of what I wanted it to. I'm going with the Pronto 9600 instead. No macros on the top of the line remote from Logitech....wtf?

Chrisx510
12-03-09, 01:04 AM
I too purchased the 1100 and returned it. It was a very nice looking remote but it couldn't do half of what I wanted it to. I'm going with the Pronto 9600 instead. No macros on the top of the line remote from Logitech....wtf?

The Pronto is a nice remote. I've played with it a few times. I would of got a pronto if I was doing a home automation system. I just need a remote to pretty much turn on everything when I want to watch a movie and to control lighting so the 890 was the best fit for me.

The Harmony 900 looks nice to.

crab
12-11-09, 11:43 PM
Having programmed the older tsu2000 which just died and now programming the tsu 9400 which is replacing the deceased I have a few thoughts. Trolling the forums will give you the vibe that anyone can program these remotes as long as its not a full blown theater with all the trimmings. Both true and untrue. You gotta want it. Pronto edit and now prontoEdit professional are not exactly intuitive and there will be no hand holding. A DIY that intends to program one should be willing and able to put in some time reading both the manual and then further study online as questions come up. He or she should expect plenty of clicking around in the program after and during that reading just figuring out the basics and how it works. Once the concept is understood things get better but there is plenty to do to get a working configuration downloaded to the unit. I just now have the extra galleries I needed downloaded, the component libraries downloaded, have the basic layout and page setup done, and am starting to work on filling those pages out with the buttons and templates I am using. I would guess I am 3 odd hours into it and perhaps still shy of half done. My previous experience leads me to believe that some stuff wont work once I do finish it. This will be small stuff like forgetting to put in jumps, incorrectly labeled items, etc. that are quickly fixed. Some will be more difficult to figure out. Things like the macro which squeezes the tv on anamorphic discs for instance. Took a good chunk of time getting that one working last time. On mine this macro is 22 steps counting the delays. This can come down to needing more delay here or there, a wrong step programmed, a step which was correctly programmed but was itself incorrect or out of order, etc. It can take a while to figure these things out. I am under the expectation that I will be spending a few hours hashing issues out and getting a flawlessly functioning remote.

Once you do get it sorted out it's a thing of beauty but you should fully expect to put in some hours making it happen. If you dont have that time or would be driven crazy by what I described then you might want to consider moving on or getting it programmed by a pro. I know if I didnt enjoy this sort of thing I would hire it out in a heartbeat.