View Full Version : EyeTV 3.2.1 out - Digital Audio fixed (again?)


Ted Todorov
11-04-09, 12:04 PM
Hopefully for real this time -- so far it has worked for a whole 12 hours :cool:

Firewall bug (first introduced in 3.1.2) less broken then before. Now my machines are behaving identically -- on EyeTV startup, the Allow connections dialog appears very quickly and then disappears -- if I haven't reacted with video game speed EyeTV won't see the HD HomeRun. But at least now it is possible to keep the Firewall on, though I may need 2 -3 tries restarting EyeTV before I react fast enough. Hopefully they'll fix it all the way the next time...

No other problems detected so far -- definitely a recommended upgrade for the Digital Audio fix. Too soon to tell if it fixes the (Snow Leopard related??) performance issues, but I am ever the optimist!

Andrew67
11-04-09, 10:58 PM
Why do you need a firewall? Isn't your computer behind a router with it's own firewall? I haven't used a software firewall on a computer in 6 years or so.

Ted Todorov
11-05-09, 12:11 PM
Why do you need a firewall? Isn't your computer behind a router with it's own firewall? I haven't used a software firewall on a computer in 6 years or so.
Yes it is behind a router Firewall. Why use it then? Eastern European paranoia in action. Also, until my recent EyeTV troubles it never caused me any obstacles.

Back to EyeTV 3.2.1 - based on an evening of watching the World Series finale on delay (no commercials for me, thank you very much) while recording other stuff as well -- it definitely looks like recent performance issues have gone away. I do recommend upgrading to 3.2.1.

Ted Todorov
11-07-09, 12:10 PM
Spoke too soon. Noticed that I had been switched back to System Sound, and when I tried switching to Digital Audio Out -- silence. Basically the same behavior 3.2 -- works for a little bit and then stops working.

Come on Elgato, this is a joke. Another bug (that has been around and still isn't fixed) -- the program guide will leave day long gaps in the listings and running the EPG update manually won't fix it.

I still recommend 3.2.1 as an improvement over 3.2, but I'm not pronouncing anything "fixed" on EyeTV until it works for a month.

Ted Todorov
11-19-09, 02:41 PM
Latest: under Mac OS X 10.6.2 digital out has worked, problem free since the upgrade. The one thing I haven't done is play any VIDEO_TS's under Front Row yet. The Firewall has also not gotten in the way of the HD HomeRun.

One thing currently broken: the EyeTV iPhone app can't connect. Haven't had a chance to debug.

I would say that anyone still on Leopard due to fears of Snow Leopard breaking EyeTV, it is safe to upgrade.

FredT
11-19-09, 10:46 PM
I would say that anyone still on Leopard due to fears of Snow Leopard breaking EyeTV, it is safe to upgrade.

Thanks, Ted. I'll give it a try this weekend.

Ted Todorov
11-30-09, 12:33 PM
Latest: under Mac OS X 10.6.2 digital out has worked, problem free since the upgrade. The one thing I haven't done is play any VIDEO_TS's under Front Row yet. The Firewall has also not gotten in the way of the HD HomeRun.

One thing currently broken: the EyeTV iPhone app can't connect. Haven't had a chance to debug.

I would say that anyone still on Leopard due to fears of Snow Leopard breaking EyeTV, it is safe to upgrade.
The EyeTV iPhone app fix was as simple as turning it on in EyeTV's preferences. I guess the EyeTV upgrade had killed the preference setting.

Did finally get around to playing some VIDEO_TS files -- result: it switched EyeTV back to system out, but then re-switching to digital audio out worked fine.

So far, 10.6.2 & 3.2.1 are officially problem free. Well, one thing: I got a notice at the bottom of my screen, that TV Guide had expired -- I clicked "renew" which sent me to the TvGuide.com home page with no evident way to proceed to renew. The EyeTV program guide is still populated though.

geeji
12-01-09, 01:17 AM
Did finally get around to playing some VIDEO_TS files -- result: it switched EyeTV back to system out, but then re-switching to digital audio out worked fine.
The behavior on my system (SL 10.6.2 + EyeTV 3.2.1) is slightly different :
with Digital Out selected for EyeTV, I get no sound when I start Front Row.
Switching EyeTV to System Out, I get FR sound...
...but when I go back to EyeTV, it is EyeTV in which I have no sound !.
At that point I have to stop FR and restart EyeTV to get sound back.
Note that my Front Row has Digital Out selected through the DVDPlayer Preferences.

Ted Todorov
12-01-09, 07:32 AM
The behavior on my system (SL 10.6.2 + EyeTV 3.2.1) is slightly different :
with Digital Out selected for EyeTV, I get no sound when I start Front Row.
Switching EyeTV to System Out, I get FR sound...
...but when I go back to EyeTV, it is EyeTV in which I have no sound !.
At that point I have to stop FR and restart EyeTV to get sound back.
Note that my Front Row has Digital Out selected through the DVDPlayer Preferences.
As does mine -- at least DD/DTS are, without fail, being passed to the receiver. Maybe having Front Row active (via PyeTV) changes the behavior in which case that would be something to consider as to whether one should use it -- if you keep switching between "DVD" and EyeTV it may not be worth the trouble.

How do you stop Front Row -- you simple mean <menu>ing out of it, or killing the process through Activity Monitor?

jason75
12-01-09, 12:29 PM
I have no problems with Front Row and digital out with DVDs or EyeTV. I'm on 10.6.2, PyeTV 2.0, and EyeTV 3.2.1. I switch back and forth between DVD content and EyeTV content without fail.

A new feature of SL is that when you exit Front Row, it kills the process after a few seconds. It no longer leaves it running in the background as before. Simplifies things if you're tweaking Front Row settings or plugins.

geeji
12-02-09, 02:48 AM
How do you stop Front Row -- you simple mean <menu>ing out of it, or killing the process through Activity Monitor?
<menu>ing.
But Front Row is not the culprit since DVDPlayer behaves the same.

I have no problems with Front Row and digital out with DVDs or EyeTV. I'm on 10.6.2, PyeTV 2.0, and EyeTV 3.2.1. I switch back and forth between DVD content and EyeTV content without fail.
That's very interesting since I have the exact same configuration on my Mac Mini (Late 2009) and either EyeTV or DVDPlayer "steal" the Digital Out, and only release it when stopped (after restarting the other too).
Elgato support made me reinstall EyeTV 3.2.1 from scratch, to no effect.
I wonder what may be our other differences ? hardware ??

jason75
12-02-09, 12:13 PM
I have a 2006 mini. I always have EyeTV running in the background since it makes the PyeTV plugin faster to load. Rarely I may have a digital out conflict with EyeTV and Front Row. If that does happen, just quitting EyeTV solves it.

whodean
12-16-09, 09:37 PM
Experiences with EyeTV 3.3? Remote streaming to a Mac is new.

Ted Todorov
12-17-09, 12:13 PM
Experiences with EyeTV 3.3? Remote streaming to a Mac is new.
Anyone who uses Digital Audio try 3.3 -- the 3.2.1 - 10.6.2 combination has been rock solid 100% reliable for me -- reluctant to change a good thing.

geeji
12-19-09, 05:47 AM
Anyone who uses Digital Audio try 3.3 -- the 3.2.1 - 10.6.2 combination has been rock solid 100% reliable for me -- reluctant to change a good thing.
See this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1207712), works for me with Digital Out (same limitations as before, since Mac OS X related).

Ted Todorov
12-19-09, 07:31 PM
Thanks, I upgraded to 3.3 today and digital audio worked in the brief test so far.

Ted Todorov
01-21-10, 03:47 PM
Thanks, I upgraded to 3.3 today and digital audio worked in the brief test so far.
Digital audio has been totally broken in 3.3, even right after a reboot, only system sound out will work. EyeTV 3.2.1 was far and away the most reliable digital audio out version. If you care about D.A. stick with 3.2.1

jason75
01-21-10, 03:59 PM
No problems here.

celica73
01-22-10, 05:32 PM
Never had any problems with Digital Audio and 3.3*

I take that back. Things got wacky the other night when using my Hybrid (2008) while watching an analog channel. I've NEVER had an issue when using all digital sources via my HDHomerun. I never use the Hybrid stick though (it was just an experiment to see how 3 tuners were handled).

On edit - nevermind. I seem to have to be having issues. The trigger seems to be when I do something in frontrow then go back to eyetv. Not sure yet.

Scott

geeji
01-23-10, 01:04 AM
On edit - nevermind. I seem to have to be having issues. The trigger seems to be when I do something in frontrow then go back to eyetv. Not sure yet.
This likely occurs when you attempt to open SIMULTANEOUSLY EyeTV and FrontRow : impossible with Digital Out selected, this is a "feature" of OSX, see this thread (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10793455#10793455).
An other possibility is that you set sound to System Out instead of Digital Out in DVDPlayer preferences, since Front Row uses those prefs as its own.

FredT
01-28-10, 12:53 PM
Digital audio has been totally broken in 3.3, even right after a reboot, only system sound out will work. EyeTV 3.2.1 was far and away the most reliable digital audio out version. If you care about D.A. stick with 3.2.1
Hmm, 3.3 is the first version that has worked perfectly with Snow Leopard for me. For the first time in a long time I can leave EyeTV running all the time without worrying about things going bad.

Ted Todorov
01-28-10, 04:35 PM
Hmm, 3.3 is the first version that has worked perfectly with Snow Leopard for me. For the first time in a long time I can leave EyeTV running all the time without worrying about things going bad.
Obviously it must depend on the kind of Mac or who knows what else??? FWIW I'm running on a MacPro. But other than shortly after the 3.3 upgrade digital audio out hasn't worked at all. Any time I try switching to it I get silence, even right after a reboot, and I have to switch back to system sound out. Meanwhile DA 5.1 works fine via Front Row & Apple DVD Player.

Under 3.2.1 -- DA worked unfailingly -- and if I had an EyeTV program window opened (with the recording on pause), it would block out iTunes or FR until I closed the window, then any other program could grab the audio output.

FredT
01-29-10, 12:02 PM
Obviously it must depend on the kind of Mac or who knows what else??? FWIW I'm running on a MacPro. But other than shortly after the 3.3 upgrade digital audio out hasn't worked at all. Any time I try switching to it I get silence, even right after a reboot, and I have to switch back to system sound out. Meanwhile DA 5.1 works fine via Front Row & Apple DVD Player.

Right. I'm running a Mac Mini in the home theater, digital audio into a Denon AVR. I'm also running it on a Mac Pro, where I've had no problems either, but I'm not using digital audio out on it, so it's quite possible I'd have the same problems you're having on it.

Ted Todorov
03-23-10, 01:42 PM
The main change in 3.3.2 is that it is 64bit software, so supposedly video performance will improve.

I just upgraded last night, no idea if there are noticeable changes.

jason75
03-23-10, 02:48 PM
The main change in 3.3.2 is that it is 64bit software

To clarify, more pieces of it are 64-bit.