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Clint S.
11-12-09, 01:47 PM
I need to get a new HDTV for my father, but I haven't had a reason to keep up with new HDTV models nor new technology since I got my Kuro 5020 6 months ago. Could anyone please give me some recommendations as to which have the best PQ now for the price in the 46"-50" sizes? Doesn't matter if it's LCD or plasma. Do any match the Kuro's PQ?

I appreciate any input.
Thanks.

Nicktx27
11-12-09, 02:32 PM
Panny G10 would be my recommendation. Great panel and great price.

Zivman
11-12-09, 02:48 PM
I need to get a new HDTV for my father, but I haven't had a reason to keep up with new HDTV models nor new technology since I got my Kuro 5020 6 months ago. Could anyone please give me some recommendations as to which have the best PQ now for the price in the 46"-50" sizes? Doesn't matter if it's LCD or plasma. Do any match the Kuro's PQ?

I appreciate any input.
Thanks.

Kuros are still the best. the latest ones being the KRP-500M (50") and 600M (60") models.

What is your budget?

Clint S.
11-13-09, 05:29 AM
Panny G10 would be my recommendation. Great panel and great price.
Thanks for the info.

Clint S.
11-13-09, 05:37 AM
Kuros are still the best. the latest ones being the KRP-500M (50") and 600M (60") models.
I didn't think the KRP's were available in the USA.

What is your budget?
That mainly depends on just how good the PQ is. I saw a 5020 recently for just under 2 grand, so less than that of course.

Thanks.

Clint S.
11-13-09, 05:40 AM
Panny G10 would be my recommendation. Great panel and great price.
I looked at the Panasonic info page on this TV and was shocked to see its power consumption at 531 watts. :eek: By one comparison, the 5020 is 436 watts. I thought power consumption was supposed to be going down. (Yes I realize that maximum).

I see no mention of any warranty, do you know what that may be (TC-P46G10)?

tbird8450
11-13-09, 06:52 AM
Krp-500m if you don't require a stand, speakers or OTA tuner, or if you don't mind obtaining them seperately.

RandyWalters
11-13-09, 10:38 AM
I looked at the Panasonic info page on this TV and was shocked to see its power consumption at 531 watts. :eek: By one comparison, the 5020 is 436 watts. I thought power consumption was supposed to be going down. (Yes I realize that maximum).My 46G10 is rated at 490 watts, but when i connected my Kill-A-Watt meter to it a few months ago it was only pulling a little less than 200 watts on average, And i run my Contrast setting higher than most people! IIRC, when CNet tested over a hundred flat panel TVs they rated the 46G10's power consumption results as "good", and good is their highest rating (there was no very good or excellent rating listed).

I see no mention of any warranty, do you know what that may be (TC-P46G10)?Panasonic TVs have a one year parts and labor warranty.

A Pansonic S1 or G10 is a great TV for a parent. My 84-year-old mother-in-law wants us to get her a 50" S1 like her grandson has - she said my 46" G10 is too small LOL!

Clint S.
11-13-09, 10:57 PM
Krp-500m if you don't require a stand, speakers or OTA tuner, or if you don't mind obtaining them seperately.
Ah that's a problem. I knew there was "something wrong" with the KRP and that just reminded me, thanks. But I wasn't aware it didn't have speakers either.

Clint S.
11-13-09, 11:18 PM
My 46G10 is rated at 490 watts, but when i connected my Kill-A-Watt meter to it a few months ago it was only pulling a little less than 200 watts on average, And i run my Contrast setting higher than most people! IIRC, when CNet tested over a hundred flat panel TVs they rated the 46G10's power consumption results as "good", and good is their highest rating (there was no very good or excellent rating listed).

Panasonic TVs have a one year parts and labor warranty.

A Pansonic S1 or G10 is a great TV for a parent. My 84-year-old mother-in-law wants us to get her a 50" S1 like her grandson has - she said my 46" G10 is too small LOL!
Thanks for the info.

So how to those new Vizio "TruLED" models compare to the G10's? How about the new Sony and Samsung LED models? Motion is important because he watches a lot of sports. Are there any LCD TV's that really have realistic motion or are they still artificial looking?

Clint S.
11-13-09, 11:45 PM
According to Cnet, the Panasonic V10 is better than the G10. But 50" is the smallest size, and at about 2 grand, I just as soon get a Kuro for the same price.

This is confusing and impossible to determine which of their "series" are supposed to be the best.
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/VIERA-2009-HDTVs-Series.130502_11002_7000000000000005702

tbird8450
11-14-09, 05:21 AM
Ah that's a problem. I knew there was "something wrong" with the KRP and that just reminded me, thanks. But I wasn't aware it didn't have speakers either.

If it helps, you can find stands for under $100 (mine was "free" with purchase) and it has an internal amp, so you can plug in speakers including the factory Pioneer speakers were you to purchase them.

At the price you can get these panels for, they're an absolute steal even if you have to add in the "missing" components.

Clint S.
11-14-09, 06:28 AM
If it helps, you can find stands for under $100 (mine was "free" with purchase) and it has an internal amp, so you can plug in speakers including the factory Pioneer speakers were you to purchase them.

At the price you can get these panels for, they're an absolute steal even if you have to add in the "missing" components.
I believe I saw the KRP-500M for close to the same price as a 5020. So the 5020 would be a much better deal because you get the speakers, tuners, and stand with it. Yeah, I just checked, only $200 less than the 5020.

The 46" G10 looks "ok", but it doesn't even have freeze frame, and it's not as good as the V10 series (a few "issues" with it according to Cnet). But the V10 series a lot more, only about $200 less than the Kuro. Does anyone know if the V10 has freeze frame? If it does and if I could find the 50" V10 for about $1500 I'd probably get it.

tbird8450
11-14-09, 09:08 AM
With the 500M you get Pure mode, the ability to add the ISFccc modes (no can do with a 5020) and it also offers better blacks and a better AR coating. At $200 less it'd be a no-brainer for me, even if I needed to go out and buy all of the extra components.

Clint S.
11-14-09, 09:32 AM
With the 500M you get Pure mode, the ability to add the ISFccc modes (no can do with a 5020) and it also offers better blacks and a better AR coating. At $200 less it'd be a no-brainer for me, even if I needed to go out and buy all of the extra components.
Perhaps so, but we're talking about my 75-year-old father, and convenience. ;)

RandyWalters
11-14-09, 01:59 PM
According to Cnet, the Panasonic V10 is better than the G10. But 50" is the smallest size, and at about 2 grand, I just as soon get a Kuro for the same price.

This is confusing and impossible to determine which of their "series" are supposed to be the best. From worst to best:

C1*
X14
X1

U1*
S1
G10
G15 (same as G10 except for two cosmetic differences)
V10
Z1

* These two models do not have an anti-reflective coating, but all the others do.

Clint S.
11-15-09, 04:06 AM
From worst to best:

C1*
X14
X1

U1*
S1
G10
G15 (same as G10 except for two cosmetic differences)
V10
Z1

* These two models do not have an anti-reflective coating, but all the others do.

Thanks a bunch Randy. What about the G1?

*I also don't see anything about any "AR Filter" for G10 on its "Overview" page, but I see it listed for the G15. What are the "cosmetic differences" between the G10 and G15? Looks like the slim design is one of them.

I just measured and the cabinet only has a 48.3" width, which makes 50" too big for it since they have a 48.9" width. So I'm going to be stuck with 46-47". The 5020 is smaller @ about 48.45" but still too wide.

Servicetech571
11-15-09, 09:46 AM
Unless your Dad is an HD junkie (in which case he should do his own research) buy whatever they have on sale from a reputable brand. There isn't enough difference in picture quality to pay the extra money for the average user.

Clint S.
11-15-09, 09:58 AM
Unless your Dad is an HD junkie (in which case he should do his own research) buy whatever they have on sale from a reputable brand. There isn't enough difference in picture quality to pay the extra money for the average user.
My mentality on this is sort of like that, but I'm still wanting to get something that's much better than "average", close to a TOTL unit because he watches a lot of TV.

Looks like I'm settling on the G15, TC-P46G15. It's actually cheaper than the 46" G10.