Just keep your fingers (and toes, maybe) crossed that the next MDN update doesn't break eSATA!

Well, that's why whenever I talk to someone at TWC or a tech comes out (they send them out for anything and everything 'cause the CSR's know nothing about technology or whether the problem likely requires a service call - must be horribly inefficient), I always show 'em the expansion drive, try to get them to get psyched up enough to get one themselves. Funny - not a single one of them has ever known anything about external drives, that it was even possible. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I figure if enough TWC personnel get them, there might be more incentive to make sure eSATA stays active. Just trying to do my little part... ;)

From the TWC Charlotte channel change page:

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

Hopefully this means Fox Sports Carolinas is going full time HD!

I wish we could get the DIY and Cartoon Network in HD. I want my Clone wars in HD!

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:
* Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)


Don't we already have this? You know... the color bar channel? tarheelone is probably correct that it means full-time programming hours instead of cherrypicked events.

Otherwise... worthwhile additions for the most part. The HBO multicast package is long overdue and kinda takes the sting out of losing the analog version.

Anybody have a clue on the distinction between "Basic Cable plus HD converter" and "Digital Basic"?

"Anybody have a clue on the distinction between "Basic Cable plus HD converter" and "Digital Basic"?

No, there is a course to take which requires about 30-credits and than you can be certified in Sales and Marketing techniques to baffle consumer's.

Just wanted to let folks know what I was just told- I called TWC tech support about transferring a TIVO lifetime subscription and when the tech asked why I stated that I was dissatisfied with the storage of the 8300hdc. He stated,"You know you can add an external hard drive..."
I told him that I had heard other wise and he said that they had been testing drives, and were still testing drives, but had a list of compatible external drives, and that he would email that list to me.
He did. Here is the list he sent

Seagate models: ST3160801XS (160GB) and ST3400832AS (400GB)
Maxtor models: Quickview P01K160 (160GB) and J01M300 (300GB)
Western Digital: models: WDG1S5000 (500GB), WDXS1600JDNN (160GB) and WD2500JD-56HBC0 (250GB).

I will try out one of the Seagates and see what happens.

"Anybody have a clue on the distinction between "Basic Cable plus HD converter" and "Digital Basic"?

No, there is a course to take which requires about 30-credits and than you can be certified in Sales and Marketing techniques to baffle consumer's.

That's what I figured.:p

From the TWC Charlotte channel change page:

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

Hopefully this means Fox Sports Carolinas is going full time HD!

BBC America in HD ---- WHOOOO HOOOOO :) We can only hope they rerun the "Torchwood" mini-series.

Here's what our HD lineup will look like on 10/25:


HD BASIC (55)

201 WUNG HD (PBS)
205 ABC Family HD
206 Disney HD
207 Planet Green HD
208 Animal Planet HD
209 TLC HD
210 Discovery Channel HD
211 USA HD
212 BIO HD
213 History HD
215 SyFy HD
216 Lifetime Movie Network HD
217 Bravo HD
218 TCM HD
219 BBC America HD
220 WCNC-HD (NBC)
225 WBTV HD (CBS)
230 WTVI HD (PBS)
235 WSOC-HD (ABC)
238 WAXN HD (IND)
239 Fox News Channel HD
240 WCCB HD (FOX)
241 Fox Business Network HD
250 WJZY-HD (CW)
255 WMYT-HD (MYT)
258 CNBC HD
259 CNN HD
260 HGTV HD
261 Food Network HD
262 SPEED HD
263 Fox Sports Carolinas HD
264 Versus HD
265 National Geographic HD
266 Science Channel HD
267 FX HD
268 Travel Channel HD
269 Outdoor Channel HD
270 MLB Network HD
271 AMC HD
272 Headline News HD
273 MSNBC HD
274 Investigation Discovery HD
275 truTV HD
277 Fuse HD
278 ESPNEWS HD
280 HD Theater
281 TNT HD
282 TBS HD
283 A&E HD
284 Palladia
285 ESPN HD
286 ESPN2 HD
287 The Golf Channel HD
289 ESPNU HD
859 HD Showcase On Demand


HD TIER (5)

290 MGM HD
291 Universal HD
292 Smithsonian Channel HD
293 MavTV HD
294 Hallmark Movie Channel HD


HD SPORTS TIER (4)

288 Big Ten Network HD
295 Big Ten Network Alternate Game HD
276 CBS College Sports HD
867 Big Ten Network On Demand HD


PREMIUM HD (14)

312 HBO2 HD
313 HBO Signature HD
314 HBO Family HD
315 HBO Comedy HD
316 HBO Zone HD
318 HBO East HD
319 HBO West HD
549 HBO Latino HD

332 Cinemax HD East
333 Cinemax HD West

356 Showtime HD West
358 Showtime HD

359 The Movie Channel HD

376 Starz HD


PREMIUM HDOD (1)

802 Movies on Demand HD

Great, great job! Thank you for breaking all the HD channels down for us.

Just wanted to let folks know what I was just told- I called TWC tech support about transferring a TIVO lifetime subscription and when the tech asked why I stated that I was dissatisfied with the storage of the 8300hdc. He stated,"You know you can add an external hard drive..."
I told him that I had heard other wise and he said that they had been testing drives, and were still testing drives, but had a list of compatible external drives, and that he would email that list to me.
He did. Here is the list he sent

Seagate models: ST3160801XS (160GB) and ST3400832AS (400GB)
Maxtor models: Quickview P01K160 (160GB) and J01M300 (300GB)
Western Digital: models: WDG1S5000 (500GB), WDXS1600JDNN (160GB) and WD2500JD-56HBC0 (250GB).

I will try out one of the Seagates and see what happens.

I have the Western Digital 500Gb and it did not work with the Samsung 3090 and I swapped it out for the 8300hdc and it is working....:)

Also The Samsung had too many issue's with the SDV not working and the guide locking up one too many times.

I have the Western Digital 500Gb and it did not work with the Samsung 3090 and I swapped it out for the 8300hdc and it is working....:)

Also The Samsung had too many issue's with the SDV not working and the guide locking up one too many times.

I've had the guide lock a few times... but SDV has been solid for me on the 3090. No joy with eSATA, though. Good thing I have 320GB internal storage!

Have you recorded beyond the internal capacity yet? The issue with HDC boxes has been that it will appear to be working (capacity reports correctly), but things get flaky once it actually starts using the external capacity to record on.

BBC America in HD ---- WHOOOO HOOOOO :) We can only hope they rerun the "Torchwood" mini-series.

HA! Top Gear in HD! Hammond can show his pearly whites!

I was under the impression that the DVR split the recording up through the external and internal drives, and did not wait for the internal to fill before using the external. Is that not correct?

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

* Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
* HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
* BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
* Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
* MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

Great. More channels to be '. . . temporarily not available. Please try again later. Press "A" to try again.'

I've had the guide lock a few times... but SDV has been solid for me on the 3090. No joy with eSATA, though. Good thing I have 320GB internal storage!

Have you recorded beyond the internal capacity yet? The issue with HDC boxes has been that it will appear to be working (capacity reports correctly), but things get flaky once it actually starts using the external capacity to record on.

No I have not yet, just got it on Monday and am filling up with high-def to get to the other drive. I will e-mail you over the week-end to let you how its working.

"I was under the impression that the DVR split the recording up through the external and internal drives, and did not wait for the internal to fill before using the external. Is that not correct? "

No, it combines both drives as one, so like what is above I have to wait for the one to fill up and carry over to the SATA drive to see the results....:confused:

Great. More channels to be '. . . temporarily not available. Please try again later. Press "A" to try again.'

You should not get that..! either your service group has an issue and or your return is not making back to the de-mod, either way get a service call to find out. If your results from that are bad PM me and I will get back to you.

Great. More channels to be '. . . temporarily not available. Please try again later. Press "A" to try again.'


I get that from time to time. Always at a bad time!

Upon further talks with the TWC tech, I got this-

I have found out, that through recent changes to the software that the only external hard drives that are 100% compatible are the Western Digital Models. And they are compatible with both devices The 8300HDc with OCAP functionality as well as the 8300HD. I hope this helps you on your search for a device. Once again I thank you for being a part of Time Warner Cable.

I will get one and try it.

You should not get that..! either your service group has an issue and or your return is not making back to the de-mod, either way get a service call to find out. If your results from that are bad PM me and I will get back to you.
I've been thinking about getting a service call, but the last time they replaced my terminal (8300HDC) because my old one was stuttering on some channels, it also fixed the low audio problem on Fox Business News. It just seems like every time one problem gets fixed another one is created.
Twice this week I had to reboot due to loss of video (screen turns pink or gray).
I get the 'unavailable' probably about 1/3 to 1/2 the time, I don't know if, when I don't get it, it's because the SDV worked or somebody else had already picked it up. How big are these groups?

Thanks for the help!

You should not get that..! either your service group has an issue and or your return is not making back to the de-mod, either way get a service call to find out. If your results from that are bad PM me and I will get back to you.

I get it -all- the time. Especially in the morning when the box first comes on for the day. Most of the time pressing A gets me my channel. Every now and then nadda.

I'm packing a 1TB external drive on the back of this here 8300HD DVR. Since I'm very slow about watching TV, I hope I can get a whole season of my shows on there without anything getting deleted. Hopefully.

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

* Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
* HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
* BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
* Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
* MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)


I'm really impressed at this latest round of HD additions but where on earth is The Weather Channel HD? This has been picked up by the Sat's and most CableCo's including many Time Warner regions so I can't figure out why it still is not being added in this area. I never thought it would be of much use but then I saw it on DirecTV and was blown away by the quality of all those HD maps. The local on the 8's in HD is really stunning -- yes, there's an issue with getting true local info in HD so it's just a feed that shows weather in all the regions but they really make good use of the HD to pack a lot of data on the screen and gorgeous maps. Come on TWC --- give us TWC!

I get it -all- the time. Especially in the morning when the box first comes on for the day. Most of the time pressing A gets me my channel. Every now and then nadda.

I'm packing a 1TB external drive on the back of this here 8300HD DVR. Since I'm very slow about watching TV, I hope I can get a whole season of my shows on there without anything getting deleted. Hopefully.

I'm the opposite. Most of the time "A" does nothing. Once in awhile it works.

I'm really impressed at this latest round of HD additions but where on earth is The Weather Channel HD? This has been picked up by the Sat's and most CableCo's including many Time Warner regions so I can't figure out why it still is not being added in this area. I never thought it would be of much use but then I saw it on DirecTV and was blown away by the quality of all those HD maps. The local on the 8's in HD is really stunning -- yes, there's an issue with getting true local info in HD so it's just a feed that shows weather in all the regions but they really make good use of the HD to pack a lot of data on the screen and gorgeous maps. Come on TWC --- give us TWC!
I agree. Quite some time ago, they said it was one of the channels they planned on getting in HD, but it never happened. Maybe NBC buying Weather Channel had something to do with it. They might be getting greedy and charging an exorbitant fee.
They should still get the local info on TWC Carolinas, they just can't get it on DirecTV, correct?

The localized weather inserts on The Weather Channel are provided via a system called Weatherstar. This system, athough being updated for HD an undergoing some testing is not yet ready so for now true local data is only available on the standard-def feed.

This is from April 2008. What's the problem here?

Earlier this year, The Weather Channel reported completion of HD carriage agreements with all six of the top six TV programming distributors. In addition to Time Warner, Comcast, Cox and Charter, the six include both satellite distributors, DirecTV and EchoStar Communications. DirecTV added The Weather Channel HD on October 1.

I submitted an inquiry on their web site. I'm sure they'll get right on it. :-)

Last December I stayed at my cousin's house in NJ (to go to the Panthers/Giants game)... Weather Channel HD was running on his Cablevision Systems service and I could have sworn they were running local weather inserts. The sets/video/graphics all looked great in HD.

Anyone noticing any jerkiness on FOX today? I noticed it last week during the pre-game and i noticed it again today. It's also happening during the game. Wondering if it's a network issue or local issue.

My picture froze several times at the beginning of the game with some audio problems both on my 8300HD box and my FusionHDTV card in my computer.

I'm not seeing it on WHNS, maybe local?

My picture froze several times at the beginning of the game with some audio problems both on my 8300HD box and my FusionHDTV card in my computer.

Mine did the same several times on my 8300HDC.

Mine did the same several times on my 8300HDC.

Looking at 4-different set-tops and they are good as far as picture quality, can't really focus on the sound, just one out of the 8300hdc.

Haven't noticed jerkiness since the beginning of the game. Hopefully it's corrected.

FOX HD has been choppy for me since the MLB All Star game. It happens from the center field camera view on pitches delivered to the plate. For NFL games the horizontal field view is real bad. Normal FOX works fine. I thought I was the only one experiencing it.

I email FOX on it. I'll post up their response if I get one.

FOX HD has been choppy for me since the MLB All Star game. It happens from the center field camera view on pitches delivered to the plate. For NFL games the horizontal field view is real bad. Normal FOX works fine. I thought I was the only one experiencing it.

I email FOX on it. I'll post up their response if I get one.


There is a known problem with live Fox sports and Scientific Atlanta set top boxes:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1163878

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

* HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)

Finally, the HBO Suite!!!!

There is a known problem with live Fox sports and Scientific Atlanta set top boxes:

Thanks for posting the thread. Frustrating to see how many have the issue and it hasn't been resolve but it does make me feel a little better knowing I'm not the only one.

. Frustrating to see how many have the issue and it hasn't been resolve .

It is being worked on by FOX, Cisco, TWC, WCCB, and others..all together.
This is not something one can wave a magic wand and magically correct.

Well, that didn't take long... both CBS and FOX picked up right where they left off last season... both refusing to be recorded on my 3090 (Broken REC symbol as soon as recording shuold have started... "The set-top was unable to record the program (5)" in the recording log).

This is getting real old... there better be a software upgrade SOON... we're at least two versions old on ODN. Switching back to an 8300HDC is not an option either... we're forced to choose between not being able to record FOX (Samsung) and not being able to watch FOX (S-A).

UPDATE: Atypically, I was able to get House recording using manual record... this would not work on any of the CBS shows. Because of its relative importance to me, I watched House live even though it appeared to be recording. During the first 1.5 hours I checked the recording several times... it appeared to be recording fine... I was able to start playback while it was still recording... the progress bar appeared as it should. So... at 9:30, I jumped over to CBS at 9:30 for Big Bang... the only CBS show I really cared about. All the while I was watching CBS, the red REC light remained lit and the guide indicated that House was still recording. At 10:00 I continued watching CSI: Miami on CBS. The REC light extinguished for House at 10:01, just as it should have. After CSI: Miami was over, I went back to watch the last 30 mins of House and... IT WASN'T THERE!. Despite all indications that it was recording correctly, the recording actually ended about 5 mins before I left it at 9:30. So I missed the the last 35 mins of House.:mad::mad::mad:

Has anyone else had an issue with the 8300HDC stopping the recording by itself of a scheduled show? This happened to me (again) last night with both Top Gear and House (they were on at the same time).

This isn't a great way to start into a new season of shows. Luckily I can watch the remaining 45 minutes of the 2-hour House episode online and Top Gear had a later showing. FWIW, I had my DVR down to 0% full before these shows started recording, so it definitely isn't a space issue.

Well, that didn't take long... both CBS and FOX picked up right where they left off last season... both refusing to be recorded on my 3090 (Broken REC symbol as soon as recording should have started... "The set-top was unable to record the program (5)" in the recording log).

This is getting real old... there better be a software upgrade SOON... we're at least two versions old on ODN. Switching back to an 8300HDC is not an option either... we're forced to choose between not being able to record FOX (Samsung) and not being able to watch FOX (S-A).

UPDATE: Atypically, I was able to get House recording using manual record... this would not work on any of the CBS shows. Because of its relative importance to me, I watched House live even though it appeared to be recording. During the first 1.5 hours I checked the recording several times... it appeared to be recording fine... I was able to start playback while it was still recording... the progress bar appeared as it should. So... at 9:30, I jumped over to CBS at 9:30 for Big Bang... the only CBS show I really cared about. All the while I was watching CBS, the red REC light remained lit and the guide indicated that House was still recording. At 10:00 I continued watching CSI: Miami on CBS. The REC light extinguished for House at 10:01, just as it should have. After CSI: Miami was over, I went back to watch the last 30 mins of House and... IT WASN'T THERE!. Despite all indications that it was recording correctly, the recording actually ended about 5 mins before I left it at 9:30. So I missed the the last 35 mins of House.:mad::mad::mad:

Yea,

Your ODN build is at least two versions out of date. I believe you should be up to ODN 3.1.0-13. Why couldn't you go back to an HDC box? At least doing so, would allow those shows to record! LOL! You're division needs to roll out a software update.

Jack

Yea,

Your ODN build is at least two versions out of date. I believe you should be up to ODN 3.1.0-13. Why couldn't you go back to an HDC box? At least doing so, would allow those shows to record! LOL! You're division needs to roll out a software update.

Jack

Ever since FOX made some changes to their distribution network, there have been severe issues with live sports an FOX when received by S-A boxes. Look at the posts a few up from mine above... or check out HERE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1163878) for the full scoop. Not an option for me during football season.

Quite honestly, I expected that we would have an ODN upgrade here before the new season started... silly me. :o NYC is the only other division on 3.1.0_3... this will be the first TV season for them with Samsungs in wide distribution. It will be interesting to see if they experience any of the same issues.

Does anyone else have no audio at all on 602 (Statesville system) WBTV CBS-HD? It's been this way for 3 days now. Audio is fine on every other channel.

Well, that didn't take long... both CBS and FOX picked up right where they left off last season... both refusing to be recorded on my 3090 (Broken REC symbol as soon as recording shuold have started... "The set-top was unable to record the program (5)" in the recording log).




yep..getting old indeed.
mine managed to get everything i wanted on CBS. big bang, 2 &1/2 men, how i met your mother, CSI etc..

but i got the same deal on fox. luckily i checked because of last seasons problems and didnt miss house.

they really need to update our software version. or fix whatever else the problem is.

Does anyone else have no audio at all on 602 (Statesville system) WBTV CBS-HD? It's been this way for 3 days now. Audio is fine on every other channel.

no issues for me

Well, that didn't take long... both CBS and FOX picked up right where they left off last season... both refusing to be recorded on my 3090 (Broken REC symbol as soon as recording shuold have started... "The set-top was unable to record the program (5)" in the recording log).

I had the same experience last night with CBS at 8pm on my 3090. Didn't record, and showed the broken symbol. It has been quite a while since I've had recording issues, but it has started occurring again beginning last week, primarily on CBS.

What is going on here? Maybe it's time I call to complain.

I recorded mostly cable nets over the summer, but I did try to catch up on CSI:NY episodes that I didn't see last season and only about 25% of them recorded... but no problem with any other channels.

BTW... I just got a PM from someone that went to Northlake to pick up a 3090 and was told that they stopped giving them out due to problems.

Ever since FOX made some changes to their distribution network, there have been severe issues with live sports an FOX when received by S-A boxes. Look at the posts a few up from mine above... or check out HERE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1163878) for the full scoop. Not an option for me during football season.

Quite honestly, I expected that we would have an ODN upgrade here before the new season started... silly me. :o NYC is the only other division on 3.1.0_3... this will be the first TV season for them with Samsungs in wide distribution. It will be interesting to see if they experience any of the same issues.

I take that information with a grain of salt. I think the problem is with the 8300/Pioneer's and not 8300hdc. I recorded the game on the my DVR and played it back several times were people reported problems and did not see it.

Also I mentioned the problems with the Samsung and switched back to the 8300hdc and have a Western 500Gb attached with no problems.

I think the problems is with some clear QAM gear and am getting some ideas with our local Fox engineer to run some test.

Of all people you know that CATV companies at the local level do not pick and choose what gear to have and its done at the corporate level, thats all I am going to say for now.

Now Rob, you know those who don't work in cable or broadcast and have never even seen any of the equipment they post about have all the answers..they even mis-post your quotes in other areas of this forum. Maybe we should just leave it to them since they know it all? After all, they are the experts.:)

I'm trying (for the first time) to run a cable from the "cable out" jack (the one that outputs to either channel 3 or 4) on the 8300HDC to a conventional TV (actually a computer TV tuner card). Video is fine, but there's no audio. Is there some setting under "settings" that I am missing? I can't find one.

Has anyone else had an issue with the 8300HDC stopping the recording by itself of a scheduled show? This happened to me (again) last night with both Top Gear and House (they were on at the same time).

This isn't a great way to start into a new season of shows. Luckily I can watch the remaining 45 minutes of the 2-hour House episode online and Top Gear had a later showing. FWIW, I had my DVR down to 0% full before these shows started recording, so it definitely isn't a space issue.

Mine did this with House. It has done it before wiyh other shows.

I haven't been critical of anything except my (and MANY others) inability to reliably record FOX and CBS programming (quite justified, don't you think?). Whether that inability is due to decisions made on Morehead Street, Arrowood Road, or anywhere else is irrelevant... and it certainly wasn't a personal attack on you, Rob.

As far as Bob's comments... All I did was respond to a direct question from Satchman as to why I didn't replace my Samsung with an S-A box. I haven't seen the issue with the Samsung and I'd like to keep it that way. I didn't "diagnose" anything, I have not been party to any discussions about the issue, and I didn't criticize anyone or any company. Your post that I quoted (without comment) in the FOX/SA thread was absolutely pertinent there... its one of the few, if any, bits of information posted by anyone who does know what may be going on that indicates that the parties involved are even aware of the problem. Your sarcastic comment was totally unwarranted.

I take that information with a grain of salt. I think the problem is with the 8300/Pioneer's and not 8300hdc. I recorded the game on the my DVR and played it back several times were people reported problems and did not see it.

Also I mentioned the problems with the Samsung and switched back to the 8300hdc and have a Western 500Gb attached with no problems.

I think the problems is with some clear QAM gear and am getting some ideas with our local Fox engineer to run some test.

Of all people you know that CATV companies at the local level do not pick and choose what gear to have and its done at the corporate level, thats all I am going to say for now.


Now Rob, you know those who don't work in cable or broadcast and have never even seen any of the equipment they post about have all the answers..they even mis-post your quotes in other areas of this forum. Maybe we should just leave it to them since they know it all? After all, they are the experts.:)

My post was not intended towards you J, and I agree with your assessment.

My post was not intended towards you J, and I agree with your assessment.

You mean I tossed and turned all night for nothing?:o:)

You mean I tossed and turned all night for nothing?:o:)

Both of us. I like reading all of those posts of those who seem to know more than those who designed the system.

FWIW, my standard issue 8300HD DVR has worked fine this week (with attached 1TB Seagate drive). It missed the first 30 minutes of House because it was busy recording Top Gear and HIMYM on CBS.

I fixed that issue by deleting HIMYM because that show should have ended a year ago, in my opinion.

They need to develop a 4 tuner box. Really. I could keep most of the tuners busy a majority of the time.

Both of us. I like reading all of those posts of those who seem to know more than those who designed the system.

I'm actually in the middle of a very similar situation... I recently designed a digital headend for a major financial sector client's new world HQ. It has worked beautifully... EXCEPT that the locally generated HD QAM channels refused to be recognized by a certain brand of PC-based tuners (but looked great on the over 100 flat panel TVs in the building.) After three months of finger pointing, yesterday the manufacturer of the QAM modulator finally discovered the root of the cause and issued a firmware upgrade to correct the issue.

The three months of listening to the financial experts attempt to diagnose A/V issues were frustrating... more so when they are witholding payment on a $1M+ project because of it.

Now Rob, you know those who don't work in cable or broadcast and have never even seen any of the equipment they post about have all the answers.

My question was more of a rhetorical question. I wasn't expecting an answer from anyone on this forum that would magically fix my problem. I'm just voicing my displeasure with a device/service that can't perform the major feature that it is intended to perform...reliably record TV. This forum seems like a reasonable place to do so, since the discussion about failed recordings has been ongoing here. I do hope it is corrected soon, because this has been an on and off problem now for many many months.

they even mis-post your quotes in other areas of this forum.

I don't visit this forum enough to know what you are referring to here. I really only stop by this particular thread when I have some downtime. I probably haven't posted 30 times on these forums in the last year, so I'm interested in knowing what threads I have come up in.

Unless you are talking about people misquoting you, and if that is the case, then disregard this part of my reply.

My question was more of a rhetorical question. I wasn't expecting an answer from anyone on this forum that would magically fix my problem. I'm just voicing my displeasure with a device/service that can't perform the major feature that it is intended to perform...reliably record TV. This forum seems like a reasonable place to do so, since the discussion about failed recordings has been ongoing here. I do hope it is corrected soon, because this has been an on and off problem now for many many months.



I don't visit this forum enough to know what you are referring to here. I really only stop by this particular thread when I have some downtime. I probably haven't posted 30 times on these forums in the last year, so I'm interested in knowing what threads I have come up in.

Unless you are talking about people misquoting you, and if that is the case, then disregard this part of my reply.

No problem at all with your post it was directed at me, I am Rob also...:D

No problem at all with your post it was directed at me, I am Rob also...:D

Ahhhh, now it all makes sense. I'll have to admit, I was really confused. Now it all makes sense to me after knowing that the response was to your post.

Carry on.

Ahhhh, now it all makes sense. I'll have to admit, I was really confused. Now it all makes sense to me after knowing that the response was to your post.

Carry on.

We're all very confused around her today!

I'm just voicing my displeasure with a device/service that can't perform the major feature that it is intended to perform...

He-He..you think the cable boxes are bad.. you should see how some of the commercial HD gear we have acts at times...:rolleyes: Now on to load software
to make my QAM modulators add the program ID's...:eek:

We're all very confused around her today!

Now you just need the 8300hdc with a big sata drive, come on you can do it..!

Dump the samsung, better yet fix WSOC's issue's...:eek:

Now you just need the 8300hdc with a big sata drive, come on you can do it..!

Dump the samsung, better yet fix WSOC's issue's...:eek:

One thing... no matter what, the 8300's are just plain FUGLY, lol.

Seriously... the only issue that really bugs me on the Sammie is the CBS/FOX recording issues, and from all I can find, it is ONLY happening in Charlotte... not anywhere else (of course, a new TV season is just starting in NYC for the very first time with 3.1.0_11 on 3090's in the mix. If its not the old ODN version then it must be SOMETHING different here... the broken recordings seem to be totally unique to us.

I had issues (freezing/rebooting) with the HDC, too... at least as often as the Sammie does. The HDC was a newer one, only had a build date 1 month older than my first Sammie.

I don't suppose suppose that my QAM encoder firmware update would help out any... whadya think?

I'm actually in the middle of a very similar situation... I recently designed a digital headend for a major financial sector client's new world HQ. It has worked beautifully... EXCEPT that the locally generated HD QAM channels refused to be recognized by a certain brand of PC-based tuners (but looked great on the over 100 flat panel TVs in the building.) After three months of finger pointing, yesterday the manufacturer of the QAM modulator finally discovered the root of the cause and issued a firmware upgrade to correct the issue.

The three months of listening to the financial experts attempt to diagnose A/V issues were frustrating... more so when they are witholding payment on a $1M+ project because of it.

I design, develop, and sell software. I too have to listen to users offer "wild and crazy" solutions to problems. BUT, occasionally one of their stupid ideas will trigger something in my head that will lead to a real solution.

[QUOTE=strutter;17225436]mine managed to get everything i wanted on CBS. big bang, 2 &1/2 men, how i met your mother, CSI etc..

but i got the same deal on fox. luckily i checked because of last seasons problems and didnt miss House.

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last night it missed Bones (the show i wasnt home to watch) but got Fringe .
didnt miss anything on CBS .

[quote=strutter;17225436]mine managed to get everything i wanted on CBS. big bang, 2 &1/2 men, how i met your mother, CSI etc..

but i got the same deal on fox. luckily i checked because of last seasons problems and didnt miss House.

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last night it missed Bones (the show i wasnt home to watch) but got Fringe .
didnt miss anything on CBS .

I got Bones AND Fringe (well... at least they are on the recorded show list... didn't watch them yet), but Grey's was in two pieces and didn't complete... but I believe that was due to the intermittent inturruptions I've seen on WSOC recently. It was inturrupted (no pic/no sound) twice while we were watching it live (fortunately).

I seem to get several good days of CBS/FOX behavior after a box reboot... After Monday's fiasco, sometime on Tuesday the box rebooted for unknown reasons during the day (box was on channel 1 when I got home and diagnostics indicated that that it had rebooted shortly after 4pm when nobody was home). The box has recorded all CBS/FOX shows since. I have noticed this good behavior after a reboot before, but I have not discovered when/why it starts acting up again. I think I will purposely reboot it Monday morning before I head to work and see what happens with the FOX/CBS dominated Monday night schedule.

They need to develop a 4 tuner box. Really. I could keep most of the tuners busy a majority of the time.

I've heard of lab tests on modern hard drives where they've simultaneously recorded 10 HD streams and played back a prerecorded eleventh. :eek: The drives can handle it; you just make the live buffer large enough (i.e. the difference between when the box receives the data and when it processes/displays it - the delay just gets longer the more streams you record).

Now this is interesting...while surfing around tonight, I found the Triangle feed of News 14 on Channel 714 on the Monroe (Charlotte) system. I wonder what that's about.

Now this is interesting...while surfing around tonight, I found the Triangle feed of News 14 on Channel 714 on the Monroe (Charlotte) system. I wonder what that's about.


Its still there this morning in Matthews. Last night I also noticed several Triad area commercials running on a few networks... I've seen that several times before, too... sometimes for extended periods of time.

With one master headend in Raleigh for the whole state, it's certainly possible for these things to happen... either as an error or, more likely, as part of a redundancy scheme should some part of the statewide fiber network go down.

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I seem to get several good days of CBS/FOX behavior after a box reboot...

I think I will purposely reboot it Monday morning before I head to work and see what happens with the FOX/CBS dominated Monday night schedule.

yep. i noticed the same thing last season.

i'll probably do the same thing monday.

i recall that with your first sammy you went into diagnostics and forced a new software upload. i dont remember you reporting any missed recordings after that because then you started posting about having other issues that caused you to exchange that box. then determining that the previous box was Ok.
after the forced load did you miss any recordings?

yep. i noticed the same thing last season.

i'll probably do the same thing monday.

i recall that with your first sammy you went into diagnostics and forced a new software upload. i dont remember you reporting any missed recordings after that because then you started posting about having other issues that caused you to exchange that box. then determining that the previous box was Ok.
after the forced load did you miss any recordings?

Eventually it still missed stuff. It was probably just the reboot, although I do seem to remember it behaving for a longer period of time.

For some reason, my DVR recorded NBC6 news last night and then from 12:55 until 1am and missed all of SNL.

I seem to get several good days of CBS/FOX behavior after a box reboot... After Monday's fiasco, sometime on Tuesday the box rebooted for unknown reasons during the day (box was on channel 1 when I got home and diagnostics indicated that that it had rebooted shortly after 4pm when nobody was home). The box has recorded all CBS/FOX shows since. I have noticed this good behavior after a reboot before, but I have not discovered when/why it starts acting up again. I think I will purposely reboot it Monday morning before I head to work and see what happens with the FOX/CBS dominated Monday night schedule.

Rebooted at 7pm... both CBS and Fox recordings kicked off without a hitch at 8pm.

Good thing the Panther's MNF game is available OTA... I'd have run out of tuners otherwise.

Good thing the Panther's MNF game is available OTA... I'd have run out of tuners otherwise.

OTA with HDHomeRun...auto-record via TSReader...network share to PopCornHour.. or live push via IP to the PopCornHour too.. :)

My box was updated to ODN 3.1.3_2 last night. The Samsung software was bumped to 2.4.9.3 (was 2.4.9.2).

The only immediately noticeable difference is that Item 14 in the Samsung Extended Diagnostics Menu, the infamous "Enable AC3 over HDMI", is no longer on the menu. I'll have to reconnect my HDMI output to see if its permanently enabled now.

Rebooted at 7pm... both CBS and Fox recordings kicked off without a hitch at 8pm.

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interesting...cause i forgot to reboot and i also got my recordings on FOX and CBS.

this morning i woke up and my box was off. diag says last reboot was at 5.09am. version is now 3.1.3-2. hopefully this resolves our recording issues

edit: i see you got it too.

I am looking to move away from cable and satellite STBs and have a question regarding the HDhomerun and its functionality in Charlotte. I only really need access to the HD local network channels, but OTA does not work well for me in the northwest portion of the city.

If I was to subscribe to the "basic" package that TWC offers for $10-12/mo, could I access HD locals via a device like the HDhomerun? The channel lineup on their site varies from ZIP to ZIP in the Charlotte area.

Again, I'm really just interested in the basic networks in HD.

hummmmm. sitting here net surfing listening to the TV and out of the blue my STB rebooted.

hummmmm. sitting here net surfing listening to the TV and out of the blue my STB rebooted.

Must be a new feature! Boxes automatically reboot every afternoon to keep CBS and FOX recording. :rolleyes:

Well, I know tonite is NCIS night, but..would appreciate any reports of glitching and or freezing on TWC for FOX Prime tonite between local and network. Also need to know how you are watching..clear QAM, STB, etc..with details if you would. And, if the STB reboots as well. Need s/w and f/w versions too. Thanks.

Well, I know tonite is NCIS night, but..would appreciate any reports of glitching and or freezing on TWC for FOX Prime tonite between local and network. Also need to know how you are watching..clear QAM, STB, etc..with details if you would. And, if the STB reboots as well. Need s/w and f/w versions too. Thanks.

Do you mean on cuts to local inserts or just in general across both the network and local schedule? I can easily switch between STB, QAM and OTA, and can watch the STB on a secondary display while I simultaneously watch QAM or OTA on the main TV (damn, I love my Harmony remote), so let me know if there is something specific to look for.

Thursday's my next major FOX night (Bones/Fringe), but I'll look in when I can tonight.

Do you mean on cuts to local inserts or just in general across both the network and local schedule? .

Thanks Joe, specifically, local to net and net to local seems to be the issue for some mpeg decoders. I am watching via ota, clear QAM,
recording the OTA transport stream, and have MPEG analyzers at specific points in the transmission path. So far, it does not seem to be a transport stream issue, but seems to be video decoder related. TWC and AT&T are also monitoring several points.

Thanks Joe, specifically, local to net and net to local seems to be the issue for some mpeg decoders.

I have last night on DVR and haven't watched yet... interested in the same there as well?

Absolutely.

Thanks Joe, specifically, local to net and net to local seems to be the issue for some mpeg decoders. I am watching via ota, clear QAM,
recording the OTA transport stream, and have MPEG analyzers at specific points in the transmission path. So far, it does not seem to be a transport stream issue, but seems to be video decoder related. TWC and AT&T are also monitoring several points.

I am recording from 8-11 for you tonight to see if there any issue's, but it is an NCIS night...:)

Hey can that Sencore handle a bigger hard drive to record more time OTA..?

hummmmm. sitting here net surfing listening to the TV and out of the blue my STB rebooted.

Mine was rebooted also at 4:59. I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that mine was behaving very strangely after the update early this morning... when I first turned it on it would only stay on any channel for about 10 seconds and then the Call TW office to subscribe to this channel would pop up. Wouldn't enter diagnostics, either. I rebooted the box and it was completely normal thereafter. Maybe they had several reports of similar behavior during the day and elected to do a preemptive mass reboot before the majority of people got home from work to watch during prime time.

Thanks Joe, specifically, local to net and net to local seems to be the issue for some mpeg decoders. I am watching via ota, clear QAM,
recording the OTA transport stream, and have MPEG analyzers at specific points in the transmission path. So far, it does not seem to be a transport stream issue, but seems to be video decoder related. TWC and AT&T are also monitoring several points.

I saw two local breaks on Hell's Kitchen tonight and both were clean transitions in and out. That was with the Sammie 3090.

Mine was rebooted also at 4:59. I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that mine was behaving very strangely after the update early this morning... when I first turned it on it would only stay on any channel for about 10 seconds and then the Call TW office to subscribe to this channel would pop up. Wouldn't enter diagnostics, either. I rebooted the box and it was completely normal thereafter. Maybe they had several reports of similar behavior during the day and elected to do a preemptive mass reboot before the majority of people got home from work to watch during prime time.

Same thing happened to me when I got home last night about 5:45. Did a reboot and everything was fine.

when I first turned it on it would only stay on any channel for about 10 seconds and then the Call TW office to subscribe to this channel would pop up.

Same thing for me last night on the Samsung. I turned the TV on around 6pm, and had the same issue. I also rebooted, and things returned to normal.

Also, my STB missed a recording of Big Bang Theory on CBS this past Monday night. Not sure if I had the new software update then or not, but I see that I have been updated to version 3.1.3_2, just not sure if that happened prior to my missed recording on Monday or after.

If the missed recording happened after my update, then the software update may not have fixed the missed recording problems. I'm going to be optimistic and assume I got the update after the missed recording and that now I'm in the clear and these issues are behind us.

Same thing for me last night on the Samsung. I turned the TV on around 6pm, and had the same issue. I also rebooted, and things returned to normal.

Also, my STB missed a recording of Big Bang Theory on CBS this past Monday night. Not sure if I had the new software update then or not, but I see that I have been updated to version 3.1.3_2, just not sure if that happened prior to my missed recording on Monday or after.

If the missed recording happened after my update, then the software update may not have fixed the missed recording problems. I'm going to be optimistic and assume I got the update after the missed recording and that now I'm in the clear and these issues are behind us.

Strutter and I had our updates in the wee hours of Tuesday morning and would assume that your's was to... lets hope we have some relief now from the CBS/FOX recording issues (although mine recorded the entire primetime schedule of both on Monday night without a hitch after I did a preemptive reboot at 7pm).

Don't we already have this? You know... the color bar channel? tarheelone is probably correct that it means full-time programming hours instead of cherrypicked events.



Looks like FS Carolinas has finally gone full time HD. Oh color bars how we will miss thee.

Strutter and I had our updates in the wee hours of Tuesday morning and would assume that your's was to... lets hope we have some relief now from the CBS/FOX recording issues (although mine recorded the entire primetime schedule of both on Monday night without a hitch after I did a preemptive reboot at 7pm).

My box was updated earlier in the week but last night it failed to record "Dollhouse" on Fox, even though in the on-screen guide, but not in the menu, it showed that Dollhouse was recording.

Luckily with my paranoia, I anticipated trouble and watched Dollhouse OTA. But stilll........GRRRRRRRRR

My box was updated earlier in the week but last night it failed to record "Dollhouse" on Fox, even though in the on-screen guide, but not in the menu, it showed that Dollhouse was recording.

Luckily with my paranoia, I anticipated trouble and watched Dollhouse OTA. But stilll........GRRRRRRRRR

That's disappointing. So far, my recordings have been good, but I have seen the AV sync/jerky video issue still occur (Pause/Play or Pause/Live fixes) since the update, and last night it randomly froze video/lost audio as in the past (power off/on fixes).

That's disappointing. So far, my recordings have been good, but I have seen the AV sync/jerky video issue still occur (Pause/Play or Pause/Live fixes) since the update, and last night it randomly froze video/lost audio as in the past (power off/on fixes).

knock on wood i havent missed any recordings nor have i seen any AV sync issues or freezes ..... knock on wood again.

Per a trustworthy friend, Northlake mall is handing out 8300HD (non "C") DVRs if anyone is interested.

His Sammy missed several hours of CBS recordings last night. The error was:

"Not recorded because the channel was not available (2)"

So he took it back today and they handed him a 8300HD.

my sammy did an odd thing yesterday. during half time the picture went to a stretched. short pic with bars at the top and bottom. picture quality also looked really bad.
first i thought something happened on that channel but after checking it was all 16x9 Hd feeds.
so i thought i had either pressed the aspect button for the TV or box. but that wasn't it either.
it ended up being the display settings for the box. somehow aspect was changed to 4x3 and resolution was changed to only 480i. (normally 16x9 and all resolutions checked). it just changed itself during a program. no reboot, no nothing.
i had read long ago about a similar problem with an earlier software version on the HDC using HDMI. but mine is a sammy connected by component. hopefully it was just some freak glitch.

charlotte got MDN 2.4.6-19 -- no keyword search

I'm also in Charlotte, but my 8300HD is still version 2.4.4-14.

I've been out of town for a few days and it appears that about 2.5 months after rdgcss up the road in Salisbury got 2.4.6-19 I finally got it in Charlotte. Did anyone else get an upgraded version of MDN over the past few days?

Have channel logos always been in the guide or were they added sometime between my old version of 2.4.4-14 and my new version of 2.4.6-19?

I had a cable running across my yard, waiting to be buried, for two months while the utility kept promising to come out. I finally called and told someone that it's a trip hazard and I'm very clumsy, and since they had plenty of notice, I would have expected that the cable would have been buried by now, and I didn't expect to fall on my face and cause all those costly medical bills. It was buried before the end of the week.

I ended up calling the NC Utilities Commission. The next day an AT&T tech called me from my driveway and said 'your neighbors said their cable was buried yesterday'. When I got home, the cable was gone. That means the tech entered my locked yard again (still without notifying me) but at least the cable was gone.

Mowing the lawn this weekend, I noticed a strange strip of brown grass running from the AT&T box (surprise!) to the fence. Looking closer, there's a trench. The cable is buried 3 inches deep! Not only did they not call me to get on my property, they hopped my locked gate at least twice, buried a cable directly across the middle of my backyard (good thing I didn't have my own things buried there,) and only buried it 3 inches deep - where I could easily cut it without trying - maybe I want to aerate my backyard this year.

After spending 15 minutes arguing with a computer on AT&Ts customer service line, I finally got transferred to a person who didn't try to sell me new service. Supposedly I'll be called back. I can't believe it's standard policy to do what they did, but honestly it wouldn't really surprise me.

and only buried it 3 inches deep - where I could easily cut it without trying - maybe I want to aerate my backyard this year.

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i believe i'd be plowing a new garden in that area. or at least a flower bed.;)

a bunch of years ago when i lived in the city. adelphia ran an over head line through my front yard to the neighbors instead of using the pole closer to their house. it came down when i trimmed a "bad" limb out of a tree.:D when they put it back up they used the other pole.

I ended up calling the NC Utilities Commission. The next day an AT&T tech called me from my driveway and said 'your neighbors said their cable was buried yesterday'. When I got home, the cable was gone. That means the tech entered my locked yard again (still without notifying me) but at least the cable was gone.

Mowing the lawn this weekend, I noticed a strange strip of brown grass running from the AT&T box (surprise!) to the fence. Looking closer, there's a trench. The cable is buried 3 inches deep! Not only did they not call me to get on my property, they hopped my locked gate at least twice, buried a cable directly across the middle of my backyard (good thing I didn't have my own things buried there,) and only buried it 3 inches deep - where I could easily cut it without trying - maybe I want to aerate my backyard this year.

After spending 15 minutes arguing with a computer on AT&Ts customer service line, I finally got transferred to a person who didn't try to sell me new service. Supposedly I'll be called back. I can't believe it's standard policy to do what they did, but honestly it wouldn't really surprise me.

I had a similar situation last year. My neighbors had new coaxial run from the cable switch box thing in my yard to their house due to internet issues. The time warner tech did the right thing and laid the cable down my driveway, then along the curb in front of my house, then up through my neighbors yard to the box on their house...but didn't bury it.

A day or two later, whoever it was that came to bury the cable did not use the path along the curb that the time warner tech laid the cable. Instead, the chose to bury it right through the middle of my yard (basically just chose a straight line from point a to point b) instead of along the back of the curb like it had been laid. I have an irrigation system, and they just missed a couple of sprinkler heads.

I called to complain, but got nowhere. Every time I was told someone would call me back to discuss it, they never did.

It is only buried 3-4 inches deep. I actually just aerated my yard yesterday, so I'm not sure if it damaged the cable. Neighbor hasn't mentioned anything to me, so I guess all is well.

I'm pondering a swap out of the 8300 for a Tivo. Has anyone in the Charlotte area done this?

Have you gotten a SDV dongle? Were there issues getting it?

My only hang up at this moment is trying to find a media extender for Tivo. I'd like to be able to play back recordings from the Tivo on other TV's in the house over the network.

I'm pondering a swap out of the 8300 for a Tivo. Has anyone in the Charlotte area done this?

Have you gotten a SDV dongle? Were there issues getting it?

My only hang up at this moment is trying to find a media extender for Tivo. I'd like to be able to play back recordings from the Tivo on other TV's in the house over the network.

I've thought about it more than once and even bought a TiVo HD, but returned it before I opened it(this was before the dongle was available). There is a TWC Carolinas TiVo tuning adapter thread over at tivovommunity that I linked below.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=418262

Have you considered the Moxi instead of the TiVo? It has a Moxi mate that can do exactly what you describe. There is a thread about it here on avsforum in the HDTV recorders section.

I've thought about it more than once and even bought a TiVo HD, but returned it before I opened it(this was before the dongle was available). There is a TWC Carolinas TiVo tuning adapter thread over at tivovommunity that I linked below.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=418262

Have you considered the Moxi instead of the TiVo? It has a Moxi mate that can do exactly what you describe. There is a thread about it here on avsforum in the HDTV recorders section.

It does look like the Moxi will do what I want. Nice! $1k for the DVR and 1 extender is kinda steep. And outboard processing of Netflix isn't that great. But it'll probably work.

Will the SDV mapper work with the Moxi? If not, then I'm still out of luck.

get yourself a popcorn hour or one of the other network media tanks that cost around $100 now, a newsgroup account and goto TVNZB website and your work is done...

get yourself a popcorn hour .

Definitely one of the best purchases I have made.:)

get yourself a popcorn hour or one of the other network media tanks that cost around $100 now, a newsgroup account and goto TVNZB website and your work is done...

I don't want to rely on news groups. I've got plenty of devices around the house that can replicate the PH. That's not what I want.

Per the Moxi web site, they support the SDV channel mapper. Awe yeah! Soon it will be bye bye 8300!

I'm pondering a swap out of the 8300 for a Tivo. Has anyone in the Charlotte area done this?

Have you gotten a SDV dongle? Were there issues getting it?

My only hang up at this moment is trying to find a media extender for Tivo. I'd like to be able to play back recordings from the Tivo on other TV's in the house over the network.

So maybe you can enlighten me; what is so compelling about the Tivo product compared to the box offered by TWC - Especially when you have to shell out 200 bucks for the hardware as well as paying $3 more per month for the service. Not to mention having to deal with the SDV dongle and hoping it works. And we all know that technology changes rapidly therefore you have to buy a new Tivo unit about every 3 years shelling out at least 200 bucks then. Cross your fingers that the Tivo doesn't break during that time.

Don't get me wrong I certainly think the DVR from TWC can and should be improved. But what else do you need out of the Tivo other than recording and watching shows? It would be nice to network multiple boxes together and play the content on any TV in the house.

So maybe you can enlighten me; what is so compelling about the Tivo product compared to the box offered by TWC - Especially when you have to shell out 200 bucks for the hardware as well as paying $3 more per month for the service. Not to mention having to deal with the SDV dongle and hoping it works. And we all know that technology changes rapidly therefore you have to buy a new Tivo unit about every 3 years shelling out at least 200 bucks then. Cross your fingers that the Tivo doesn't break during that time.

Don't get me wrong I certainly think the DVR from TWC can and should be improved. But what else do you need out of the Tivo other than recording and watching shows? It would be nice to network multiple boxes together and play the content on any TV in the house.

Tivo is out. Looking like a Moxi at this point. I'd like to have the ability to stream Netflix to the Tivo/Moxi as a secondary reason to dump the 8300.

Ideally? My setup would have 6-8 CableCard enabled tuners on my Mac. And they'd be responsible for providing TV to any set in the house with an extender as well as recording shows setup on any extender on the network.

It'd provide Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, and any stored content on said Mac all in one pretty interface.

Wife called and said WSOC is stuttering pretty bad tonight, not like blocking and freezing, but more like picture stutter. Any one else seeing this lately..?

Wife called and said WSOC is stuttering pretty bad tonight, not like blocking and freezing, but more like picture stutter. Any one else seeing this lately..?


Yea..On FOX sometimes...;)

Tivo is out. Looking like a Moxi at this point. I'd like to have the ability to stream Netflix to the Tivo/Moxi as a secondary reason to dump the 8300.

Ideally? My setup would have 6-8 CableCard enabled tuners on my Mac. And they'd be responsible for providing TV to any set in the house with an extender as well as recording shows setup on any extender on the network.

It'd provide Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, and any stored content on said Mac all in one pretty interface.

Good thought. Its only a matter of time before a true matured "media server" type device is available. One that can record TV, pull in internet content (movies, data, pix, etc.), radio and provide home storage. I would envision that the content could be streamed to all TV's in the home along with mobile devices such as ipods and cell phones. I also see it providing home automation like controling lights, temp and video camera within the home. Essentially, a portal to the home. We will have to all become firewall experts to secure this device.

Yea..On FOX sometimes...;)

Bones and Fringe look awesome compared to Grey's and Private Practice. Looked like a weird telecine problem on ABC.

Bones and Fringe look awesome compared to Grey's and Private Practice. Looked like a weird telecine problem on ABC.

That's how it gets with my Sammy after certain dropouts or glitches. I had it last night during the ~8:18 break in Bones... there was a quick breakup, after which AV sync was shot and video stuttered like frames were being dropped. As usual, Pause/Live restored both the video and AV sync.

I watched Bones/Fringe live, and FlashForward/Grey's via DVR last night and the one incident in Bones was the only that I noticed.

i didnt notice anything during a recording of bones.
i just watched a recording of The Forgotten from WSOC. PQ was fine but there was a low level audio click, click, click through the whole show.

on a side note i have begun missing recordings on CBS. havent missed any on FOX since the SW update. but that could all change next week.

Last night on my Sammy, just as it did, or rather, didn't do, last Friday, on "Dollhouse", while it indictated that the show was being recorded, it, in, fact, was not.

Ended up watching it live, OTA.

Someone, either at TWC or Sammy, need to take a "treament." :mad:

I have an 8300hdc connected to a Samsung that exhibits a continuous hum except occasionally while changing channels.
It is connected via component now. The only way to get rid of the hum is to connect the tv to the 8300 via hdmi, actually don't even have to plug it in, just touch the shell (presumably the shield).
I have tried connecting the tv and 8300 together via two metal points, I have tried separate grounding of the 8300 to earth ground (since it is only 2 prong power cable, presumably the cable shield provides ground), I cannot find any other way to stop the hum.
Ok I can hear it now, why not just use the hdmi.
Because when using the hdmi, the audio is fixed out of the 8300. The remote volume control will not change volume and under setup is says fixed and can't be changed.
Ok, so why not control the tv volume with the remote? Because the remote does not operate the tv properly. You cannot hold the volume up and down to get a continuous change. There are 100 volume steps in the tv, to change the volume 20 steps you have to press the volume up or down 20 times. A real pain.
Ok then, so why not just continue to use component, just keep the hdmi plugged in to get rid of the hum? Because when the tv senses the hdmi, it will not accept the component video.
Anybody have any ideas on this? Isn't there a way to control volume thru hdmi from the 8300?

Thanks!

I have an 8300hdc connected to a Samsung that exhibits a continuous hum except occasionally while changing channels.
It is connected via component now. The only way to get rid of the hum is to connect the tv to the 8300 via hdmi, actually don't even have to plug it in, just touch the shell (presumably the shield).
I have tried connecting the tv and 8300 together via two metal points, I have tried separate grounding of the 8300 to earth ground (since it is only 2 prong power cable, presumably the cable shield provides ground), I cannot find any other way to stop the hum.
Ok I can hear it now, why not just use the hdmi.
Because when using the hdmi, the audio is fixed out of the 8300. The remote volume control will not change volume and under setup is says fixed and can't be changed.
Ok, so why not control the tv volume with the remote? Because the remote does not operate the tv properly. You cannot hold the volume up and down to get a continuous change. There are 100 volume steps in the tv, to change the volume 20 steps you have to press the volume up or down 20 times. A real pain.
Ok then, so why not just continue to use component, just keep the hdmi plugged in to get rid of the hum? Because when the tv senses the hdmi, it will not accept the component video.
Anybody have any ideas on this? Isn't there a way to control volume thru hdmi from the 8300?

Thanks!

The 8300 won't control digital outputs with regards to volume. Do you have an audio receiver? Does it have optical inputs? If so, I'd recommend going optical out of the 8300 to an optical in on your receiver.

If you still have a hum (is this a 60Hz ground loop hum coming from the speakers of the tv?), it could be a bad 8300 (shocker, I know).

How are you plugging the DVR and tv in for electricity? Straight into the wall? Or through a power strip of some sort? Try plugging them both directly into the wall.

Also, you may want to make sure your inbound cable from the street is grounded correctly (preferably at the same grounding point as your power meter). If it isn't grounded, that needs to get addressed.

The 8300 won't control digital outputs with regards to volume. Do you have an audio receiver? Does it have optical inputs? If so, I'd recommend going optical out of the 8300 to an optical in on your receiver.

If you still have a hum (is this a 60Hz ground loop hum coming from the speakers of the tv?), it could be a bad 8300 (shocker, I know).

How are you plugging the DVR and tv in for electricity? Straight into the wall? Or through a power strip of some sort? Try plugging them both directly into the wall.

Also, you may want to make sure your inbound cable from the street is grounded correctly (preferably at the same grounding point as your power meter). If it isn't grounded, that needs to get addressed.

Sounds like you got a bad 8300, the internal grounding the case
is probably loose and its using the component cables to travel to the TV as a ground.

Thanks for the replies.

Yes it is 60 hz hum and it is coming thru the tv speakers. Don't have a receiver on it yet. Sometimes while changing channels it goes away, but all audio does, so I assume that means it is coming from the box.

I tried connecting metal of the box to earth ground via the ground receptacle in an outlet. No change. If its a grounding issue in the box shouldn't that eliminate that possibility?

I think I did try swapping it out with another one in the house awhile ago. Maybe should do it again just in case.

So am I hearing that the 8300 cannot control volume thru the hdmi? That seems kind of lame. Is that normal?

I've been looking for a similar unit... I like the Moxi, but for the cost. And the new tuner card coming out in 2010 looks good too.
I just want to be able to record the shows I want (so far I have missed every season premiere I have tried to record; for some reason the 8300 has recorded some other variant of the shows, no matter what I put in. At least with a HTPC or a Moxi, if I have to download the show I can watch it on my TV, and burn it to a DVD if I want.
It bothers me that it is so hard to get a simple feature like "record to DVD" on the 8300.
Sorry to vent, but I just found that instead of recording the season premiere of Sanctuary, the 8300 recorded the repeat of last seasons finale.
Which might have been great if I hadn't already seen it...

"So am I hearing that the 8300 cannot control volume thru the hdmi? That seems kind of lame. Is that normal?"

Yes, there is no way to attenuate a digital signal that way, be it optical-coaxial, and or HDMI, you can program the cable remote or an all in one to adjust the volume on your TV or if you run in through a Receiver that was also recommended above is the best way.

I wouldn't recommend attenuate the volume through the set-top anyway. You are better off leaving it fixed and than adjusting the TV and or the Receiver volume, just one too many unity gain issue's there.

"So am I hearing that the 8300 cannot control volume thru the hdmi? That seems kind of lame. Is that normal?"

Yes, there is no way to attenuate a digital signal that way, be it optical-coaxial, and or HDMI, you can program the cable remote or an all in one to adjust the volume on your TV or if you run in through a Receiver that was also recommended above is the best way.

I wouldn't recommend attenuate the volume through the set-top anyway. You are better off leaving it fixed and than adjusting the TV and or the Receiver volume, just one too many unity gain issue's there.

Ok, I thought there was some kind of digital protocol or something they used. Don't know much about hdmi.
Adjusting tv volume would be fine if the remote would work right with the tv. Have to press the up or down once for each step change in volume. Can't just hold it. A real pain. Tried every code.
Universal remote would probably work but not sure about the dedicated dvr buttons. Really don't want to use two remotes.

On another note, video froze about a dozen times today during the game on 240 Fox HD.

Ok, I thought there was some kind of digital protocol or something they used. Don't know much about hdmi.
Adjusting tv volume would be fine if the remote would work right with the tv. Have to press the up or down once for each step change in volume. Can't just hold it. A real pain. Tried every code.
Universal remote would probably work but not sure about the dedicated dvr buttons. Really don't want to use two remotes.

On another note, video froze about a dozen times today during the game on 240 Fox HD.

Yeah, the Fox issue's are not doing any us any good right now...:(

Yeah, the Fox issue's are not doing any us any good right now...:(

Now for some reason, recording does not work. Won't pause or record. Hit 'info' there is nothing in the buffer. Oh well, time for a re-boot again.

Ok, I thought there was some kind of digital protocol or something they used. Don't know much about hdmi.
Adjusting tv volume would be fine if the remote would work right with the tv. Have to press the up or down once for each step change in volume. Can't just hold it. A real pain. Tried every code.
Universal remote would probably work but not sure about the dedicated dvr buttons. Really don't want to use two remotes.

On another note, video froze about a dozen times today during the game on 240 Fox HD.


Video froze during the game on Channel 11 as well.

Video froze during the game on Channel 11 as well.

Yeah... I saw it both OTA and on TWC... seemed to me like every freeze was either a replay or a promo... never froze during live game action.

Yeah... I saw it both OTA and on TWC... seemed to me like every freeze was either a replay or a promo... never froze during live game action.

We were watching Net Return in the radio booth on one set and cable off air on another. I noticed the breakup on the cable fed set, net return looked fine.

t123

We were watching Net Return in the radio booth
t123

Now what would radio do without TV! Where ya been Harrell?

What would TV be without sound?

Surveillance...

hh

Time Warner Cable to offer 4G service in N.C.
By Mike Robuck
CedMagazine.com - October 14, 2009

Time Warner Cable’s first launch of its 4G wireless network is set for Dec. 1 in the North Carolina communities of Charlotte, Greensboro and Raleigh.

Time Warner Cable had previously said it would have the 4G service launched in four markets by the end of the year, which in addition to the North Carolina market includes Dallas. A spokesman for Time Warner Cable said Honolulu and Maui, Hawaii, will launch early next year.

Time Warner Cable also announced that it plans to launch additional mobile services to customers in the future, such as the ability to program a DVR from a mobile device and the ability to take video content on the go.

The first product to launch in North Carolina is Road Runner Mobile, which features Internet access on the go for $34.95 per month for Time Warner Cable triple-play customers with Price Lock Guarantee.

Customers using the Time Warner Cable 4G WiMAX service, which is offered via partner Clearwire’s network, can expect Internet speeds up to 6 Mbps.

“With Time Warner Cable’s 4G Mobile Network, we now offer the fastest mobile service available and extend our reach outside the home,” said Carol Hevey, executive vice president of the Carolina Region for Time Warner Cable. “Giving our customers the convenience of mobility and the speed of 4G, Road Runner Mobile lets customers take their favorite Internet service wherever they go. This is an important part of our strategy to give our customers any content, on any device, anytime, anywhere.”

Time Warner Cable is offering a choice of mobile data plans for its 4G service:

Road Runner Mobile 4G National Elite gives customers unlimited access to both Time Warner Cable’s 4G Mobile Network and to Sprint’s national 3G network. The cost is $79.95 per month for Road Runner Standard or Turbo customers, and there are additional discounts for double- and triple-play customers.
Road Runner Mobile 4G Elite gives customers unlimited access to the Time Warner Cable 4G Mobile Network. The cost is $49.95 per month for Road Runner Standard or Turbo customers, with additional discounts for double- and triple-play customers.
Road Runner Mobile 4G Choice gives light users 2 GB of service on the Time Warner Cable 4G network each month. The cost is $39.95 per month for customers that subscribe to one other service from Time Warner Cable.
Time Warner Cable said customers who subscribe to a bundle of services have access to preferred pricing on the Elite levels of service.

Last year, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Bright House Networks, Sprint Nextel, Intel and Google invested $3.2 billion in Clearwire.

To date, Clearwire has launched its 4G WiMAX service in 16 markets, while Comcast has its brand of the service in three markets.

http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-TWC-4G-service-North-Carolina-101409.aspx

Time Warner Cable to offer 4G service in N.C.
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Meh. I predict in 12-18 months we'll see an PR on TWC dismantling this thing. Verizon (and eventually AT&T) are going to smoke this with their LTE deployments.

TWC should focus on a better cable product in my opinion.

Meh. TWC should focus on a better cable product in my opinion.

Yea, I agree..me thinks cable in general is taking on too much. Personally, I'd NEVER trust my phone service for 911 to the cable company. It's the first thing that will fail in a Hugo. And from what I see, the phone company needs to stay out of video since they can't deliver to most homes.

VOIP is good for talking to your friends, but when it comes to saving my life and emergencies I'll keep my AT&T Landline :).

I would welcome the ability to program a DVR via mobile device (i.e. iPhone) like all of the other major providers already have (Comcast, Dish, DirecTV, etc.). I could care less about their wireless data plans.

I would welcome the ability to program a DVR via mobile device (i.e. iPhone) like all of the other major providers already have (Comcast, Dish, DirecTV, etc.). I could care less about their wireless data plans.

That feature is coming in a future software update.

That feature is coming in a future software update.
Is anyone privy to the release date for that feature? Will it be available before the end of the year and what platforms are to be supported (i.e. iPhone, Blackberry, etc.)?

No but it's being planned. It probably will have some cell phone browser integration.

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

* Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
* HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
* HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
* BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
* Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
* MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
* TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

The HBO HD suite diskapeared from the 10/28 update on the Channel Changes page.

On another note, HBO also finally went dark on analog Channel 7. There's still a signal on that channel that my auto-tuner is picking up.

The HBO HD suite diskapeared from the 10/28 update on the Channel Changes page.

On another note, HBO also finally went dark on analog Channel 7. There's still a signal on that channel that my auto-tuner is picking up.

Here in the Triangle they moved the HBO suite to being added Nov 24th.

November 24, 2009: The following channels will be added:

HBO Signature East HD - Channel 415
HBO Family East HD - Channel 416
HBO Comedy East HD - Channel 417
HBO Zone East HD - Channel 418
HBO Latino East HD - Channel 419

(Note: Channel numbers are for the triangle area)

On another note, HBO also finally went dark on analog Channel 7.

Still on in these parts.

Still on in these parts.

Same here.

Still on in these parts.

Shhh! Don't tell Rob!! :D

Shhh! Don't tell Rob!! :D

He don't care, packing up to head over to the Red Barn on Morehead (Concord) for the Race. The sky needs to throw some sunshine otherwise Beer,Barbecue, and Horseshoe's won't be much fun...:(

Does anyone know if there is a TWC-Charlotte Roadrunner thread here at AVS? I don't recall finding anything last time I searched and of course it's not really the place for it but just curious. The last few weeks my internet service has slowed significantly and Netflix via the XBOX 360 won't even work anymore. Not that it's my primary source of content but since I already have a Netflix subscription and a Gold Xbox Live membership I would like the option of using it.

Does anyone know if there is a TWC-Charlotte Roadrunner thread here at AVS? I don't recall finding anything last time I searched and of course it's not really the place for it but just curious. The last few weeks my internet service has slowed significantly and Netflix via the XBOX 360 won't even work anymore. Not that it's my primary source of content but since I already have a Netflix subscription and a Gold Xbox Live membership I would like the option of using it.

PM Sent..

PM Sent..

Received. Thanks! :)

Looks like I got an update last night: 8300HDC South Charlotte.
Anybody know the details?

Looks like I got an update last night: 8300HDC South Charlotte.
Anybody know the details?

Nope... my 3090 rebooted at 5:18a but the ODN and Samsung software versions were unchanged.

anyone else notice any abnormalities on CBS. i've had a few instances where picture will change to a solid green screen for a few seconds, also audio gargling and drop outs. these audio issues are usually followed by a sync issue. i have to pause then play to get it all synced back up

anyone else notice any abnormalities on CBS. i've had a few instances where picture will change to a solid green screen for a few seconds, also audio gargling and drop outs. these audio issues are usually followed by a sync issue. i have to pause then play to get it all synced back up

I've seen this on my DVR and on a Sammy tv using its QAM tuner. I've reported it to the engineer folks at WBTV.

anyone else notice any abnormalities on CBS. i've had a few instances where picture will change to a solid green screen for a few seconds, also audio gargling and drop outs. these audio issues are usually followed by a sync issue. i have to pause then play to get it all synced back up

I've seen this as well with our 8300HDC. We are use to CBS audio and picture problems though. The green screen is new. At first I thought my new receiver was acting up. Sigh of relief when I realized it just CBS messing up again.

^^^
thanks, just wanted to make sure it wasnt something only affecting me.

I see it OTA.

anyone else notice any abnormalities on CBS. i've had a few instances where picture will change to a solid green screen for a few seconds, also audio gargling and drop outs. these audio issues are usually followed by a sync issue. i have to pause then play to get it all synced back up

I came here just now to see if anyone else was having this issue and I see
we're not alone. I'm not getting the audio sync problem just the blank green screen.

I see it OTA.

This is just proves something I have suspected for a long time. The issues with CBS are not created by Time Warner. I think we just have a lame local affiliate.

New HD test channels are up this morning, starting at 1000.

New HD test channels are up this morning, starting at 1000.


WHOOOO - HOOOOO! Thank you for the heads-up :)

Dr. Who in HD on BBCA-HD, here we come!

Well I've noticed they've been off and on, kind of sporadic.

Well I've noticed they've been off and on, kind of sporadic.

Yeah... this morning I.D. was off (not authorized message) and one of the others was giving an SDV error message. Also, the HLN programming was all SD with sidebars.

HBO2 looked great, as did the the old WWII Navy movie showing on TCM-HD. BBC-A looked good, but with the characteristic (for them) narrow pillarbox panels (also seen fairly often on Discovery Networks programming).

Does anyone know if there is a TWC-Charlotte Roadrunner thread here at AVS? I don't recall finding anything last time I searched and of course it's not really the place for it but just curious. The last few weeks my internet service has slowed significantly and Netflix via the XBOX 360 won't even work anymore. Not that it's my primary source of content but since I already have a Netflix subscription and a Gold Xbox Live membership I would like the option of using it.

I'm in the same boat - does a thread exist?

I've been having trouble with virtually all of my HD channels lately (8300HDC). I can switch to one, maybe it will go, maybe it won't. If it doesn't I don't get the SDV 'not available', I just get a blank screen. Waiting it out seems to have no effect, but I can switch to a lower number SD channel, and it switches right away.
If I do manage to get one to work, it will switch to another HD channel, just seems to have trouble going from SD to HD.
Re-booted several times.
Sigh. . . . I am so tired of messing around with TWC's crappy stuff. Now I know why they push that 2 year deal so much.

This from the TWC web-site:

November 24, 2009: The following channels will be added:

CNBC World - Channel 194 (Digital Basic)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
Showtime Too HD - Channel 388 (requires subscription to Showtime)
Action Max HD - Channel 335 (requires subscription to Cinemax)
Cartoon Network HD - Channel 296 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
We HD - Channel 297 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
IFC HD - Channel 395 (Movie Tier/Premium

Glad to see more HBOs and an extra Showtime and Max thrown in the mix. Don't know what WeHD and I'm not sure that I want to know. :rolleyes:

I'm in the same boat - does a thread exist?

I never found a thread but the outcome of my issue is that I'm back to fast download and streaming! The problem ended up being the power supply for my TWC modem. The tech switched it out for a new power supply and that fixed it. With the old power supply I was getting like .023 mpbs but with the new power supply I got 15 mbps! Hard to believe that was it but it was. Apparently I had an "old" style power supply which had known issues. The newer one is smaller and looks like most cell phone charging adapters. If you have a larger brick type power supply then change it out.

This from the TWC web-site:

November 24, 2009: The following channels will be added:

CNBC World - Channel 194 (Digital Basic)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
Showtime Too HD - Channel 388 (requires subscription to Showtime)
Action Max HD - Channel 335 (requires subscription to Cinemax)
Cartoon Network HD - Channel 296 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
We HD - Channel 297 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
IFC HD - Channel 395 (Movie Tier/Premium

Glad to see more HBOs and an extra Showtime and Max thrown in the mix. Don't know what WeHD and I'm not sure that I want to know. :rolleyes:

And still no Weather Channel HD [scratches head].

And still no Weather Channel HD [scratches head].

Highly Over-rated, IMHO. :(

And still no Weather Channel HD [scratches head].
I know, what is up with that.

Has anyone noticed picture quality degradation on certain channels lately? Specifically, I have noticed a lot more artifacts on ESPN HD and ESPN 2 HD. I remember jcalabria saying a bunch of channels were moved to SDV recently and I wonder if ESPN HD and ESPN 2 HD used to be 2 HD per QAM as linear channels and are now 3 HD per QAM as SDV channels.

Does anyone else think ESPN HD looks worse?

This is important since my Hokies are playing the next two Thrusday nights on ESPN! :)

Has anyone noticed picture quality degradation on certain channels lately? Specifically, I have noticed a lot more artifacts on ESPN HD and ESPN 2 HD. I remember jcalabria saying a bunch of channels were moved to SDV recently and I wonder if ESPN HD and ESPN 2 HD used to be 2 HD per QAM as linear channels and are now 3 HD per QAM as SDV channels.

Does anyone else think ESPN HD looks worse?

This is important since my Hokies are playing the next two Thrusday nights on ESPN! :)

Yes especially HGTV HD. It never freezes but I've never seen so much
Pixelation/Artifacts. It's really bad lately. It's getting so bad I think it's time
to get them out here and do a signal check.

Yes especially HGTV HD. It never freezes but I've never seen so much
Pixelation/Artifacts. It's really bad lately. It's getting so bad I think it's time
to get them out here and do a signal check.

Take a look this morning and see if it is still bad, it looks good here in Charlotte this morning. There was a problem with HGTV and Food-Network and it was corrected last night in the 12:00am -5:00am window.

Take a look this morning and see if it is still bad, it looks good here in Charlotte this morning. There was a problem with HGTV and Food-Network and it was corrected last night in the 12:00am -5:00am window.

I wasn't having PQ problems, but I was having a problem with many of the HD channels just not coming on (earlier in thread). That seems ok this morning. I wonder if there is some connection.

This from the TWC web-site:

November 24, 2009: The following channels will be added:


HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)


These we all suppose to be added on the Oct launch. Does anyone know why TWC wasnt able to do it in Oct?

I wasn't having PQ problems, but I was having a problem with many of the HD channels just not coming on (earlier in thread). That seems ok this morning. I wonder if there is some connection.

It is hard to say, there are cable replacements repaired or replaced daily and than the sweep schedule where bad cable and amp modules are found and replaced. Depending on where you live its hard to say with 2,000 fiber nodes just in Meck county alone.

These we all suppose to be added on the Oct launch. Does anyone know why TWC wasnt able to do it in Oct?


From what I have heard, it was done to try to avoid problems with the continuing Navigator rollout in the Triad area. I guess they wanted to limit the work load on the engineers or something. Since channels are added on a statewide basis now everywhere changed what they are adding. Word is that they are going to try to have us to 100 HD channels by the end of the year.

These we all suppose to be added on the Oct launch. Does anyone know why TWC wasnt able to do it in Oct?

I understand the launch of Navigator in Greensboro and the TRIAD replaceing SARA IPG caused them to lauch in two phases since they want the HD in the state to remain uniform in launches.

I understand the launch of Navigator in Greensboro and the TRIAD replaceing SARA IPG caused them to lauch in two phases since they want the HD in the state to remain uniform in launches.

Well, get with the program, Woody... we don't want to be held back by you folks up there anymore!:p

Check your DVR schedule!

Has anybody else had problems with DVR (8300 HDC) scheduling since the time change? Out of about 6 daily shows I have scheduled, only one was still actually scheduled, the others were still in the Series Manager, but I had to go in and change a setting and re-save it before it would actually get scheduled.
I don't know if it matters, but these are just shows that I record in case I miss them and there was something I wanted to see, I have it set up to re-record over itself every day (keep one episode).

I have basic cable with no cable box. My TVs and DVD recorder can tune all of the local digital channels on clear QAM. But, one of the new HD cable channels, TCM HD, is something I'd like to be able to get.

TWC offers a "Digital Cable" package, but also, "Digital Access" which is much cheaper. I can't find any info detailing what you don't get with Digital Access. Anybody know?

A J

Check your DVR schedule!

Has anybody else had problems with DVR (8300 HDC) scheduling since the time change? Out of about 6 daily shows I have scheduled, only one was still actually scheduled, the others were still in the Series Manager, but I had to go in and change a setting and re-save it before it would actually get scheduled.
I don't know if it matters, but these are just shows that I record in case I miss them and there was something I wanted to see, I have it set up to re-record over itself every day (keep one episode).

Dexter recorded fine for me last nigt, but I did not look any further into the schedule. Will check tonight.

I have basic cable with no cable box. My TVs and DVD recorder can tune all of the local digital channels on clear QAM. But, one of the new HD cable channels, TCM HD, is something I'd like to be able to get.

TWC offers a "Digital Cable" package, but also, "Digital Access" which is much cheaper. I can't find any info detailing what you don't get with Digital Access. Anybody know?

A J

From: http://www.timewarnercable.com/Carolinas/shop/pricing.html

Digital Cable (Includes Broadcast and Basic Cable, one digital programming tier, digital box, program guide and remote) $71.95

Digital Access (Includes Broadcast and Basic Cable, digital box, Music Choice, access to On Demand programming and Pay-Per-View services) $66.95

The prices are for Union County, NC. Looks like for $5.00 a month, you get the box (not DVR) and one digital tier (Digital Basic, Canales en Espanol or Games & Sports Tier).

Digital Cable (Includes Broadcast and Basic Cable, one digital programming tier, digital box, program guide and remote) $71.95

Digital Access (Includes Broadcast and Basic Cable, digital box, Music Choice, access to On Demand programming and Pay-Per-View services) $66.95


That is curious, only $5 difference for the standard rates, yet when I check the current offers for myself, as an existing basic cable customer, Digital Cable is $49.95 for the first 6 months, while Digital Access is $29.95 for the first 12 months, a huge cost difference. Strange..., but marketing strategy in any company is always strange.

A J

The guide is completely whack-o this morning, at least for me. On MSNBC it is showing that some John and Kate show is on from 6-9 instead of MJ. On CNBC, an AC/DC concert. Crazy.

Tivo is out. Looking like a Moxi at this point. I'd like to have the ability to stream Netflix to the Tivo/Moxi as a secondary reason to dump the 8300.

Ideally? My setup would have 6-8 CableCard enabled tuners on my Mac. And they'd be responsible for providing TV to any set in the house with an extender as well as recording shows setup on any extender on the network.

It'd provide Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, and any stored content on said Mac all in one pretty interface.

ke4pym,

That Moxi is looking a whole lot better!

Moxi was recently purchased by Arris and they have now introduced a 3 tuner HD DVR with a moxi mate extender for $799 and no monthly fees! Later this year they will introduce firmware that will enable the mate extender to tune live tv.

Right now I have two SA8300HDs which cost me $30 a month(2 x $9.95 for DVR service + a $10 charge for the second box).

For $800 Moxi has the following advantages over Navigator.

- widescreen guide
- HD guide
- a real search engine
- multi-room viewing
- centralized playlist
- Playon for playing PC content
- 500GB hard drive
- 6TB eSata support

All that additional functionality and a break even point of 27 months at which time I save $30 a month(no doubt it will be more than that in 2 years with TWC!).

Here's what our HD lineup will look like on 11/23 (additions are in boldface):


HD BASIC (55)

201 WUNG HD (PBS)
205 ABC Family HD
206 Disney HD
207 Planet Green HD
208 Animal Planet HD
209 TLC HD
210 Discovery Channel HD
211 USA HD
212 BIO HD
213 History HD
215 SyFy HD
216 Lifetime Movie Network HD
217 Bravo HD
218 TCM HD
219 BBC America HD
220 WCNC-HD (NBC)
225 WBTV HD (CBS)
230 WTVI HD (PBS)
235 WSOC-HD (ABC)
238 WAXN HD (IND)
239 Fox News Channel HD
240 WCCB HD (FOX)
241 Fox Business Network HD
250 WJZY-HD (CW)
255 WMYT-HD (MYT)
258 CNBC HD
259 CNN HD
260 HGTV HD
261 Food Network HD
262 SPEED HD
263 Fox Sports Carolinas HD
264 Versus HD
265 National Geographic HD
266 Science Channel HD
267 FX HD
268 Travel Channel HD
269 Outdoor Channel HD
270 MLB Network HD
271 AMC HD
272 Headline News HD
273 MSNBC HD
274 Investigation Discovery HD
275 truTV HD
277 Fuse HD
278 ESPNEWS HD
280 HD Theater
281 TNT HD
282 TBS HD
283 A&E HD
284 Palladia
285 ESPN HD
286 ESPN2 HD
287 The Golf Channel HD
289 ESPNU HD
297 WE HD



HD FREE ON-DEMAND (1)

859 HD Showcase On Demand


HD TIER (5)

290 MGM HD
291 Universal HD
292 Smithsonian Channel HD
293 MavTV HD
294 Hallmark Movie Channel HD


HD SPORTS TIER (4)

288 Big Ten Network HD
295 Big Ten Network Alternate Game HD
276 CBS College Sports HD
867 Big Ten Network On Demand HD


PREMIUM HD (17)

312 HBO2 HD
313 HBO Signature HD
314 HBO Family HD
315 HBO Comedy HD
316 HBO Zone HD
318 HBO East HD
319 HBO West HD
549 HBO Latino HD

332 Cinemax HD East
333 Cinemax HD West
334 Action Max HD

356 Showtime HD West
358 Showtime HD
388 Showtime Too HD

359 The Movie Channel HD

376 Starz HD

395 IFC HD


HD PREMIUM ON-DEMAND (1)

802 Movies on Demand HD

I'm experiencing a lot of freezing during the game today. It's getting pretty bad...I actually want to watch the game. The Panthers aren't playing half bad.

ke4pym,

That Moxi is looking a whole lot better!


Does anyone know how many tuners TWC's SDV adapter will support?

I'm experiencing a lot of freezing during the game today. It's getting pretty bad...I actually want to watch the game. The Panthers aren't playing half bad.

Yep, the freezing is annoying. I switched to OTA, with a full strength signal and noticed 1 brief freezup during about a 15 minute time period. Guess it could be a FOX issue, or local?

Yep, the freezing is annoying. I switched to OTA, with a full strength signal and noticed 1 brief freezup during about a 15 minute time period. Guess it could be a FOX issue, or local?

I was at the game but watched the DVR recording of the TWC feed last night and I noticed freezes throughout the game. Some were long enough to miss entire plays (thankfully seen via instant replay). If I had been home I would have compared to OTA but obviously could not do that. PQ was great otherwise, though.

Does anyone know how many tuners TWC's SDV adapter will support?

bet you are thinking about the new 3 tuner Moxi:D

Does anyone know how many tuners TWC's SDV adapter will support?

TWC uses the Cisco Tuning Adapter which supports 2 tuners so the question is whether or not the Moxi can be used with two tuning adapters to support the new 3 tuner Moxi. I emailed them about it a few days ago, but they have not replied.

The guy testing the Ceton card here in Charlotte uses 3 tuning adapters with his 6 tuner PC card.

I hear San Diego and prehaps Charlotte will be getting keyword search added to their version of Navigator in the next big update. Hope we in Greensboro get it also. Has anyone in Charlotte heard anything on this?

TWC uses the Cisco Tuning Adapter which supports 2 tuners so the question is whether or not the Moxi can be used with two tuning adapters to support the new 3 tuner Moxi. I emailed them about it a few days ago, but they have not replied.

The guy testing the Ceton card here in Charlotte uses 3 tuning adapters with his 6 tuner PC card.

They're a little slow at replying. Took them about 4 days to reply to a question I sent them.

I don't know if I want to have that much hardware involved in this little evil project of mine.

Last week I upgraded from basic to digital cable and they hooked up a new STB with a HDMI cable. I immediately noticed that PQ was considerably worse than OTA HD stations, that blacks had become dark gray, and overall contrast seemed low. Sidebars on 4:3 shows were noticeably gray, rather than the solid black seen previously on OTA and on Clear QAM (without a box).

I experimented with the STB menu settings, but the default was already dark bars. So, I substituted a premium HDMI cable and there was no change. I then removed the HDMI cable and plugged in component video and audio (5 wires total) and the picture improved to the level I saw before on Clear QAM and sidebars were solid black, as were black areas within a scene.

I would much rather have a single HDMI than 5 wires to the TV. Every other device I've used (Blu-Ray and an upscaling DVD) look great using an HDMI connection to the TV.

The STB is a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4250HDC and my TV is a Samsung LN40A550. Anybody have an idea why HDMI doesn't work well with this setup?

A J

Last week I upgraded from basic to digital cable and they hooked up a new STB with a HDMI cable. I immediately noticed that PQ was considerably worse than OTA HD stations, that blacks had become dark gray, and overall contrast seemed low. Sidebars on 4:3 shows were noticeably gray, rather than the solid black seen previously on OTA and on Clear QAM (without a box).

I experimented with the STB menu settings, but the default was already dark bars. So, I substituted a premium HDMI cable and there was no change. I then removed the HDMI cable and plugged in component video and audio (5 wires total) and the picture improved to the level I saw before on Clear QAM and sidebars were solid black, as were black areas within a scene.

I would much rather have a single HDMI than 5 wires to the TV. Every other device I've used (Blu-Ray and an upscaling DVD) look great using an HDMI connection to the TV.

The STB is a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4250HDC and my TV is a Samsung LN40A550. Anybody have an idea why HDMI doesn't work well with this setup?

A J

My first guess would be that your TV is set for PC grayscale levels (0-255) over HDMI, which when fed with a TV grayscale levels (16-234) will appear the way you describe, since the TV is expecting Level 0 to be black and the box (correctly) is never sending anything lower than Level 16. Look in your TV setup menu for "HDMI Black Level" setting. Remember, this setting on your Samsung, along with ALL other picture adjustments, are done on a per-input basis. You will need to adjust/calibrate the TV for each input individually. There's plenty of discussion on setting up your A550 HERE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1020612), as well.

I have had no PQ issues with my A550 Samsung with either SA 8300HDC or Samsung SMT-H3090 boxes (although the Samsung box has slightly better PQ over component versus HDMI, IMHO).

I'm so disgusted with TWC I can't stand it. I couldn't watch the game except for a 27" 20 year old TV, analog of course.
WAXN HD was so pixelated, stuttering, and dropping out in was unwatchable. And ch. 10 was black, totally dark, probably still is, I don't know, I never watch it.
They're service is crap. In the last couple of months, other HD channels have started acting up, one of them 220. Can't watch it anymore, pixelate, stutter.
Re-booting the POS terminal works for a couple of minutes. I guss its time for a new one. . . again.

I'm so disgusted with TWC I can't stand it. I couldn't watch the game except for a 27" 20 year old TV, analog of course.
WAXN HD was so pixelated, stuttering, and dropping out in was unwatchable. And ch. 10 was black, totally dark, probably still is, I don't know, I never watch it.
They're service is crap. In the last couple of months, other HD channels have started acting up, one of them 220. Can't watch it anymore, pixelate, stutter.
Re-booting the POS terminal works for a couple of minutes. I guss its time for a new one. . . again.

Or maybe you need a service call to see how your levels and MER/BER readings are for the QAM's.

Since I had the right tech out to my house,I have had no issues with my TWC service. Of course if you don't call them they can't fix the problem.:)

Here in the Raleigh area, I have been experiencing intermittent problems with AMCHD, FXHD, ESPNU (and a couple more that I cant think of now) where the screen will either be black or will say "The HD channel is not available, please try again". ESPNHD, and local HD stations work fine. Spoke with support this morning, and an engineer called this afternoon and sent something down to the boxes with no success. A technician is coming out in the morning, but the engineer said the problem was not at the house.

Anyone else having this issue or know what the problem might be? I will post more info once the technician comes out.

Here in the Raleigh area, I have been experiencing intermittent problems with AMCHD, FXHD, ESPNU (and a couple more that I cant think of now) where the screen will either be black or will say "The HD channel is not available, please try again". ESPNHD, and local HD stations work fine. Spoke with support this morning, and an engineer called this afternoon and sent something down to the boxes with no success. A technician is coming out in the morning, but the engineer said the problem was not at the house.

Anyone else having this issue or know what the problem might be? I will post more info once the technician comes out.

It could be a needle in the haystack..? Wait and see what the tech say's when he gets to your house, there are thousands of fiber nodes and service groups for the Carolina's for Switched Digital.

Still on in these parts.


What parts are those? I live in the University area of Charlotte. No HBO on channel 7 as of this week?

Why would it happen in some areas and not in others?
:mad:

What parts are those? I live in the University area of Charlotte. No HBO on channel 7 as of this week?

Why would it happen in some areas and not in others?
:mad:

I noticed it drop out Tuesday the 17th. Been meaning to post about it but kept forgetting.

I'm so disgusted with TWC I can't stand it. I couldn't watch the game except for a 27" 20 year old TV, analog of course.
WAXN HD was so pixelated, stuttering, and dropping out in was unwatchable. And ch. 10 was black, totally dark, probably still is, I don't know, I never watch it.
They're service is crap. In the last couple of months, other HD channels have started acting up, one of them 220. Can't watch it anymore, pixelate, stutter.
Re-booting the POS terminal works for a couple of minutes. I guss its time for a new one. . . again.

Wasn't just you. WAXN-HD (Channel 238) went completely dark for me during the 4th quarter. I switched over to Channel 10 and it was fine.

They can't blame the FOX feed this time, so what's the problem?

I noticed it drop out Tuesday the 17th. Been meaning to post about it but kept forgetting.

At the request of JCalabria Spice channel will be added in lieu of HBO on channel 7....:D

Does anybody know why some of the college football games (particularly Penn State the last two weeks) scheduled for ESPNHD end up being ESPN News instead but if you put on ESPN (channel 39. . maybe) the game is on as scheduled. Are there particular blackout rules that apply to HD channels that don't to SD channels?

Does anybody know why some of the college football games (particularly Penn State the last two weeks) scheduled for ESPNHD end up being ESPN News instead but if you put on ESPN (channel 39. . maybe) the game is on as scheduled. Are there particular blackout rules that apply to HD channels that don't to SD channels?

It has to do with the ABC/ESPN reverse mirrors that they do across the nation where in some regions games are on ABC and other regions they are on ESPN. Many times ESPN is showing 3 different games across the country. ESPN is limited in the number of HD feeds they can send out(2 I think). Thus one region of the country is going to be stuck with an SD only feed and get ESPNNEWS on ESPNHD. It's been a problem for years now and one that you would think the "Worldwide leader in sports" could get resolved. FOX and CBS had similar limitations when they started doing HD games but have since resolved the issue. Here's hoping ESPN finally does at some point.

At the request of JCalabria Spice channel will be added in lieu of HBO on channel 7....:D

As long as its not RFD:p.

Who's gets to pull all the Ch. 7 traps off?

What is the purpose of the loud EEEEK! sound between commercials on ESPN-HD?