Over the last couple of weeks I've lost most of my clear QAM channels here in Clemmons. It was ABC-HD about 2 weeks ago, UNC-HD/NBC-HD about 1 week ago and FOX-HD/CBS-HD today. Currently DISC-HD and ESPN2-HD are the only ones coming through. I realise the Clear QAM is not a priority for TWC but it's almost like they are purposely screwing it up every couple of months. :mad:

I'm also in Clemmons. I just checked all of the following (Thursday 7/5 at 2:30 p.m.) to be sure they are still where they were.

I found ABC-HD at 78.1 on my Westinghouse tv (its channel numbers don't always agree with those of other brands, for some reason). Here are some of the others:
NBC-HD: 82.3
UNC-HD: 82.1
DISC-HD: 87.1
ESPN2HD: 92.1
CBS-HD: 109.1
FOX-HD: 109.3

also
UNC-NC: 109.4
UNC-ED: 109.5
UNC-TV: 82.5
UNC-Kids: 82.4
Ovation: 110.12

WCWG-20 hasn't had HD for several days
Nobody here has mentioned it.
WCWG-20 HD is not on cable.

Hmmmm.....

WCWG-20 hasn't had HD for several days
Nobody here has mentioned it.
WCWG-20 HD is not on cable.

Hmmmm.....
It's been more than several days. It's been at least a few weeks. There's nothing in their primetime schedule that I watch but I've noticed they been sans HD while channel surfing.

For any baseball fans, TWC is offering an Extra Innings Preview for free from today (12th) through the 18th. Channels 360-373 according to an email from them I got today.

For any baseball fans, TWC is offering an Extra Innings Preview for free from today (12th) through the 18th. Channels 360-373 according to an email from them I got today.
Directv is having the same free preview.

Directv is having the same free preview.

LOL. I got a followup email from TWC today apologizing for giving us the wrong channels for the preview. Now they say it's channels 345-360. The funny thing is I *did* see some games in the 360's, so are these new channels even correct? Either way another example ofl TWC brilliance.

A CSR at the Myrtle Beach office of Time Warner Cable told me yesterday that when SDV is implemented, clear QAM tuners won't be able to receive anything. I think this might be against the intent if not the letter of federal law (which prohibits scrambling/encrypting the basic tier, sometimees called the broadcast tier). I was surprised the CSR had even heard of QAM. Last fall they were telling me: "I'm not trained on tuners."

A CSR at the Myrtle Beach office of Time Warner Cable told me yesterday that when SDV is implemented, clear QAM tuners won't be able to receive anything. I think this might be against the intent if not the letter of federal law (which prohibits scrambling/encrypting the basic tier, sometimees called the broadcast tier). I was surprised the CSR had even heard of QAM. Last fall they were telling me: "I'm not trained on tuners."

Doubt that is true. Any channel that has an analog and digital feed (i.e., channels 2-75) are delivered to the local hub in a digital format, and the analog version is reconstructed. That means these channels HAVE to run all the time, they cannot be switched, and there would be no technical reason not to continue to offer clear QAM and one-way cable card availabilty.

Channels that are currently only available digitally are the ones in that may or may not be "switched", based on their popularity.

What is being found out is that SDV is REAL good for PPV channels and little watched channels, but your locals, and high viewer channels like ESPN, FNC, CNN, A&E, History Channel, etc do not do release enough bandwidth to be useful. From what several cableco employees off the record have told me, SDV is turning out to NOT be the big bandwidth saviour cable had hoped for and it is causing more problems than it is supposed to help.

Personally, I don't know. I am with sat myself!

Anyone know why TWC was out for several hours the other night?

I wish I could convince the wife to go Dish.......

Part of the equation in effective deployment of SDV is node size. Last system I designed had service areas of 400 homes served with a direct fiber link from the headend. We took 12 fiber cores out to each node so that we could subdivide the nodes to smaller housecounts as needed. At each node there were four 100 home coax legs which meant that we could conceivably have as few as 100 homes sharing bandwidth. Actually with 65% penetration, the number is less.

My guess is that Time Warner's nodes are larger, perhaps more in the 1000-1200 home size, which is typical, and may not have abundant dark fiber.

But there are strategies to reinforce the infrastructure to make SDV work as required.

Update on some new free QAM channels on TWC in Lexington.

89-7 TMCXw
103-1 thru 103-8 Lots of Shotime channels.

Anyone having flicker issues on CBS HD through TW? Started noticing it with WoF, then Jeopardy and now the sitcom that it on. Not on any other channels.

The last couple of days, I've had a great deal of flicker issues on some of the HD channels through TWC. It seemed to be better last night, but I didn't watch a great deal of TV. It would be nice to know if others are experiencing this also.

Ron

I have D* but noticed the same thing on CBS last night (Monday). It was also visible on channel 2's OTA signal as well.

In general TWC has been having issues the last week or so. We have been getting calls from all over the Triad with not only specific channels lost but the whole system going down for hours at a time. You are not alone.

In general TWC has been having issues the last week or so. We have been getting calls from all over the Triad with not only specific channels lost but the whole system going down for hours at a time. You are not alone.


OK cool - glad to see I am not the only one see it. Wonder if I can send TW a bill for a new bulb on my TV? This has to have an effect on lamp life. :-)

Has anyone heard if the NFL Network is going to offered by TW? Thanks.

Anyone having flicker issues on CBS HD through TW? Started noticing it with WoF, then Jeopardy and now the sitcom that it on. Not on any other channels.

Same here, Jeopardy was bad (color flashes) but DiscoveryHD was fine on TWC. I did not think to check OTA at the time,

Same here, Jeopardy was bad (color flashes) but DiscoveryHD was fine on TWC. I did not think to check OTA at the time,

Yes I was made aware of this yesterday evening.

We had an encoder "glitch" appearantly due to a lightning strike.

A full reset restored normal operation.

Thanks everyone for the reports.

Rickey.

TW is pissing me off. Their digital cable keeps going on the blitz. This has been happening daily here lately.

TW is pissing me off. Their digital cable keeps going on the blitz. This has been happening daily here lately.


welcome to my world, in the same area, has been doing the same thing with rr too, they came out to my street and crawled into the box in the neighbors yard, it works as of now. my signal level is -19dbmv seems low to me.. who knows

welcome to my world, in the same area, has been doing the same thing with rr too, they came out to my street and crawled into the box in the neighbors yard, it works as of now. my signal level is -19dbmv seems low to me.. who knowsI seem to remember that -15 is the recommended limit for reliable operation. I think your signal level is a bit low, even though it is working right now.

My cable-box here on the Greensboro TWC in the Northwest part of Guilford County shows -4dBmv on channel 520. (local HD feed of WFMY)

Joe L.

WXLV must be using a timer to turn off the HD feed from ABC. Since the golf is running into the time slot of the IRL race, they have switch from HD to SD.

No British Open playoff in HD.

Technically it is a 720 up convert but still, the SD picture doesn't look as good as what we had before.

im in the tobaccoville/king area and can only pick up WXII OTA. currently using radio shack brand rabbit ears. any suggestions on hardware or can i even pick anything else out here... thanks!

time warner wasnt an option when we moved out here a year ago, so currently stuck with a dish contract.

xwinkx,

Welcome to our little band of intrepids!

You will need to get an outside antenna to pick up all of the stations from King. The digital transmitters are located in two general areas. WXII and WUNL are on Sauratown Mt and the rest are south of Greensboro in a line along US 220 from Randleman to I-40. If you really want PAX (now "I") they are located at Reidsville. WXLV and WLXI are the only stations with analog transmitters in one location (WXLV Sauratown Mt/WLXI Kernersville) and digital transmitters somewhere else (both WXLV and WLXI at Level Cross).

DirecTV does have WFMY, WGHP, WXII and WXLV available in HD with their H20/HR20 receivers and the 5 LNB dish as well as TWC.

The Channel Master 4228 works well here for all of the stations, but after Feb 17, 2009, WGHP will change from its current digital channel of 35 and cease analog operations on channel 8 and begin digital operations on channel 8 at that time so if you are looking for long term, you might want to consider a VHF high band/UHF antenna (they are now becoming available). All of the other stations in the area will remain on their UHF digital channels giving up their analog channels at that time.

Hope that helps.

you might want to consider a VHF high band/UHF antenna (they are now becoming available).
What's an example of one? Right now my antenna is UHF only.

Wineguard has one out. It covers channel 7-51. I don't have the model number in front of me but it is considerablely smaller than a 2-69 antenna.

The Channel Master 4228 works well here for all of the stations, but after Feb 17, 2009, WGHP will change from its current digital channel of 35 and cease analog operations on channel 8 and begin digital operations on channel 8 at that time so if you are looking for long term, you might want to consider a VHF high band/UHF antenna (they are now becoming available). All of the other stations in the area will remain on their UHF digital channels giving up their analog channels at that time.

Foxeng, I thought you had noted in the past that the 4228 should still be fine for receiving VHF channel 8. The 4228 seems to work fine for the higher VHF digital channels.

Foxeng, I thought you had noted in the past that the 4228 should still be fine for receiving VHF channel 8. The 4228 seems to work fine for the higher VHF digital channels.

I have noted personally that it does. But for those purest, there is a better answer!

Wineguard has one out. It covers channel 7-51. I don't have the model number in front of me but it is considerablely smaller than a 2-69 antenna.


Winegard Square Shooter?


Rickey.

I was just checking and Antennacraft and Winegard both have several channel 7-13 antennas.

thanks for the reply ill have to start looking around for a new antenna

This one's brand new and made by antennacraft. If your reasonably close to what you want to receive in the UHF channels, it might be a good choice. I still like seperate antennas myself.

http://www.starkelectronic.com/achub22.jpg

If you already have a UHF only antenna, both AntennaCraft and Winegard make channel 7-13 only antennas that you can add to your UHF only if you feel it is needed. Like MR12 noted, Channel Master 4228 UHF antennas do a decent job with channels 7-13, but if for some strange reason, you need a VHF antenna, adding one of those antennas is not a bad way to go.

Just remember, in NC, there will be no stations on channels 2-6 post transition. You will have stations on channel 8 (High Point, Morehead City), 9 (Manteo) ,10 (Greenville),11 (Durham, Charlotte),12 (New Bern) and 13 (Asheville) after Feb 17, 2009.

Now that we have ABC HD and ESPN2HD on TWC, my main beefs with them are gone and I am left with ones that are somewhat minor, but for those who want their flames of hatred fanned...

I was at my in-laws' house in Wilmington this weekend and noticed that in addition to them having Universal HD, they now have A&E HD. So Wilmington now has 2 HD channels that Greensboro doesn't. I still mildly want Universal HD, but A&E really has nothing that I care about. But, I thought some on here might be interested.

Now that we have ABC HD and ESPN2HD on TWC, my main beefs with them are gone and I am left with ones that are somewhat minor, but for those who want their flames of hatred fanned...

I was at my in-laws' house in Wilmington this weekend and noticed that in addition to them having Universal HD, they now have A&E HD. So Wilmington now has 2 HD channels that Greensboro doesn't. I still mildly want Universal HD, but A&E really has nothing that I care about. But, I thought some on here might be interested.

Universal HD seemed good at first. They have US Open Tennis Live in HD. They also carry the first and second rounds of The Masters in HD (which we get on 2.1 anyway). They also show Law and Order:SVU and Monk in HD. However, they've gotten stale with those two shows as they only have 1 season of Monk in HD and just recently added a 2nd season of SVU in HD. They best they've been doing recently in showing Battlestar Galactica in HD although they were shown months after they aired on SciFi. They do throw on the occasional good movie in HD like Jaws. However, with more NBC Universal channels coming in HD (simulcastes of SciFi, USA, Bravo, Sleuth, and Chiller) the need for Universal is going away.

I enjoyed watching a bit of Firefly this weekend on it. I don't really pine for the channel that much since there isn't much on it I care about. But, I am sure there is the odd program or movie I would check out on it.

Universal HD is a placeholder until they choose replace it. Remember, it was originally Bravo HD.

Universal HD seemed good at first. They have US Open Tennis Live in HD. They also carry the first and second rounds of The Masters in HD (which we get on 2.1 anyway). They also show Law and Order:SVU and Monk in HD. However, they've gotten stale with those two shows as they only have 1 season of Monk in HD and just recently added a 2nd season of SVU in HD. They best they've been doing recently in showing Battlestar Galactica in HD although they were shown months after they aired on SciFi. They do throw on the occasional good movie in HD like Jaws. However, with more NBC Universal channels coming in HD (simulcastes of SciFi, USA, Bravo, Sleuth, and Chiller) the need for Universal is going away.

Has there been any new word on the CW coming to Greensboro's HD lineup?

Last time I looked the CW in Greensboro has stopped showing it's programs in HD. That aside there is a chance that once D*'s D10 satellite is operational in about a month and a half, they will start adding the CW and MyNetwork TV channels to markets that aren't already showing them (some do already). However, if we don't get them once D10 is working then we will get them once D11 is up and working. It is currently scheduled for launch in December. It will be operational about 2 months later.

Well, I now have some empathy (as opposed to only sympathy) for you poor folks who depend on TWC's QAM offerings. Today I helped my old man buy his first HD TV, and since cable isn't bringing his HD cable box till Tuesday, went ahead and just hooked the cable directly and got him the QAM stuff available. First off, it takes FOREVER to perform that digital scan. (A good 30 minutes I would guess, thankfully not the 50 minutes the TV claimed it would take.) And, the results were incomplete. He got the main 4 networks, PBS, and EPSN2HD. There were some other worthless things like a shopping channel, one or two In Demand ad channels, and news 14 Carolina, which I quickly disabled. Irritating that ESPNHD and TNTHD weren't available.

Well, I now have some empathy (as opposed to only sympathy) for you poor folks who depend on TWC's QAM offerings. Today I helped my old man buy his first HD TV, and since cable isn't bringing his HD cable box till Tuesday, went ahead and just hooked the cable directly and got him the QAM stuff available. First off, it takes FOREVER to perform that digital scan. (A good 30 minutes I would guess, thankfully not the 50 minutes the TV claimed it would take.) And, the results were incomplete. He got the main 4 networks, PBS, and EPSN2HD. There were some other worthless things like a shopping channel, one or two In Demand ad channels, and news 14 Carolina, which I quickly disabled. Irritating that ESPNHD and TNTHD weren't available.

You should also have gotten DiscoveryHD in clear QAM. ESPN HD is no longer in the clear.

Did all the Showtime channels that were available via QAM on TWC for the last week or so disappear completely, or just relocate someplace? (And if relocated, what channels are they on now?) :confused:

For the first time ever, I looked on the normally useless TWC website for the Triad for info on when ESPNU is going to be added, and ACTUALLY FOUND INFO!!

We get ESPNU on August 30th, in time for football season! (http://www.timewarnercable.com/piedmonttriad/programming/channelchanges.html) Yay! For once TWC has good timing in adding a channel!!!

Did all the Showtime channels that were available via QAM on TWC for the last week or so disappear completely, or just relocate someplace? (And if relocated, what channels are they on now?) :confused:

They all disappeared...I was getting them on 103, but they are no longer there. When I rescanned the channels, I did not see them anywhere else.

They all disappeared...I was getting them on 103, but they are no longer there. When I rescanned the channels, I did not see them anywhere else.
I've also lost Ovation, and ESPN-2HD recently.

I figured we would lose ESPN2-HD just in time for football season. They would entice us all summer when all they were showing in primetime was MLS Soccer, and drag racing. Maybe MLB once a week. Now right when good stuff is going to start showing up, they'll cut it off.

I've also lost Ovation, and ESPN-2HD recently.

I am still getting ESPN2 HD and I am not sure about Ovation

Called TWC this morning to get a HD box, wanted to make sure they had them in stock in Winston. They said yes, I went and all they had were the DVR versions. I waited and spoke with the manager who was apologetic and is having one sent to my house Saturday morning, in time for the 1pm Panther game!!!
I have a 1080p epson on a 110" screen just in time for FOOTBALL!

I don't think the Panthers pre-season games except the CBS game in 2 weeks will be in HD. Pre-season is not normally carried by the networks but a local market ad-hoc network created by the teams themselves and some are HD but many are not. JP/Raycom Sports had been doing the games for the Panthers but since JP and Raycom split after the Lincoln Financial by-out of JP, I am not sure who is doing the games, but I have no word of it being available in HD. All four pre-season games will be on WFMY this year, three from the ad-hoc network "Panthers TV Network" and one from CBS.

Regular season will be the usual FOX for NFC visiting teams, CBS when an AFC team visits and an occasional ESPN, NBC and NFL Network game thrown in. All of the network and cable games should be in HD since CBS will have 6 HD games a week starting this season matching FOX's 6 HD games a week.

Also pre-season games are not on the same schedule they are in regular season. Pre-season games are on Thursday nights for FOX, Friday nights on CBS and Saturday nights for the local ad-hoc games. The Panthers this week is at 8pm Saturday night on WFMY.

Thanks FOXENG - the game on Sat night was just awful. Terrible. I had a group over to watch it on the projector and I was embarrased to keep it on. They all thought it was amazing though so I just agreed with them.

Thanks FOXENG - the game on Sat night was just awful. Terrible. I had a group over to watch it on the projector and I was embarrased to keep it on. They all thought it was amazing though so I just agreed with them.

I don't think WFMY had the dish tuned in exactly right. I saw noise in the reds/oranges and some sparkles but for an SD picture, it looked pretty good on the digital channel, I didn't look on the analog channel.

Anyone else having trouble with TWC HBOHD East? For the past week I have been getting breakups and pixelization at the start of 16:9 content that usually clears up sometime during the program. No problems on any other HD channel. I called TWC Sunday and they said that they were not having any issues and would have to send a technician (but the problem cleared up shortly after my call).

Noteiced Discovery-HD and HD-Net movies were on and off this weekend on TWC

Travel Channel is gone now.......

I don't know how long they've been back to doing this but I noticed last night that the WCWG channel 20 was back to showing their primetime programs in HD.

Travel Channel is gone now.......
Per TWC's website, it was supposed to move to digital channel 118 on 8/18.

Wonder why the Travel Channel moved to pay tier?

I wish I could go Dish but the wife and lack of land line..........

Wonder why the Travel Channel moved to pay tier?

I wish I could go Dish but the wife and lack of land line..........TWC is probably starting to clear analog spectrum. Travel channel probably comes as part of a package. Don't they belong to Discovery or TLC?

They are not trying to "clear analog spectrum" if they removed one channel and added two new ones on analog.

USELESS TRIVIA ALERT!!

For those interested or who care, it was one year ago today WGHP turned on the full power transmitter and for the last 365 days, we have only been at reduced power for a total of about 7 days and then only at half power. Most of you on OTA antennas never noticed. We look at that as a pretty good first year with a new transmitter and antenna. As a side bar, it took the FCC almost as long to issue the permanent license taking 352 days from the time we turned the full power on to receiving the license.

Congrats on having the system at full power for 1 year.

I guess that is typical gov't efficiency?

Lost all my clear QAM channels today. All the usual channels were on last night. Scanned twice without any results, anyone else experiencing the same?

Lost all my clear QAM channels today. All the usual channels were on last night. Scanned twice without any results, anyone else experiencing the same?

Still have all my clear QAM channels in Greensboro.

Hey, is anyone with D* HD locals having problems with pixelation that started sometime last week around Wed August 22nd? I have been having a problem with the picture just on these channels and i am trying to find out if it is something wrong with my end or D* end before i pay $70 to have some jackass make a service call and tell that nothing is wrong.

Please any response would be much appreciated. If you are having the same problem please call in and tell the idiots in CS that there is a serious problem that needs to be fixed before football this coming labor day weekend.


Thanks,

Bryant

I mostly watch the HD networks via OTA, but I sometimes watch HD locals from D*. The only pixelation I've noticed is on channel 2 and I've saw this on OTA as well. However, D* gets their feed from channel 2 via OTA as well. Maybe channel 2 is having some issues with the OTA transmission.

Well what i am seeing is lines across the screen, players in the football game last night having their whole jerseys turned pink and green. Anybody else noticing problems please call D*.

That sounds like an antenna pointing problem or a receiver problem or a coax problem. Pink and Green screens means all 0's or all 1's. If that was actually being transmitted, it would get fixed quickly. D* monitors the HD local feeds pretty closely. Everytime we have a hickup on the air, they are on the phone about it.

Ok, well i was talking to the lady last night and i had 92% signal strength from the dish.

Well, I'm not sure if there's a problem with my Fusion card. I have to rescan for channels everytime I restart the tv software. I'm using 3.62 drivers anyone else experiencing this?

Everytime we have a hickup on the air, they are on the phone about it.

yea, same here.. even if it's in the middle of Jerry Spranger! :eek:

For anyone who likes looking for electronic and computer bargains (not just Ham radio stuff!), the annual Shelby hamfest is this weekend at the Cleveland county fairgrounds. If you are looking for something to do and don't wish to fight the mobs at the Hillsville, VA flea market, then this might be worth the trip. Good place to stock up on essentials like coax, connectors, and any other related electrical goodies. Anyway, just wanted to give a heads up for anyone interested.

Shelby Hamfest brochure (http://shelbyhamfest.org/2007brochure.pdf)

C Snyder

Well today was the launch of ESPNU on TWC locally. Their website claims it's on the "Digitial Specialty" tier, which based on their channel guide is just the regular digital cable. I can confirm that this afternoon I was getting it. Then both of my boxes had updates (their channels were reset) and now I'm not getting it. One box tells me I haven't subscribed to it, as if it's on the sports tier or something. My other box flips to it, but never gets a picture or sound. My brother called tonight to say he isn't getting it either. Maybe I'll call tomorrow if it isn't fixed... (Sorry for the non HD derail)

Well today was the launch of ESPNU on TWC locally. Their website claims it's on the "Digitial Specialty" tier, which based on their channel guide is just the regular digital cable. I can confirm that this afternoon I was getting it. Then both of my boxes had updates (their channels were reset) and now I'm not getting it. One box tells me I haven't subscribed to it, as if it's on the sports tier or something. My other box flips to it, but never gets a picture or sound. My brother called tonight to say he isn't getting it either. Maybe I'll call tomorrow if it isn't fixed... (Sorry for the non HD derail)

For a day or two I was getting it via clear QAM here in Winston-Salem. Yesterday I saw that it was no longer there.

Just a note to let you know that WGHP-DT will be at greatly reduced power today as we do some tower work around the antenas so we will be on our old tower with the original DTV transmitter and antenna. We will be back to full power late in the afternoon.

Well today was the launch of ESPNU on TWC locally. Their website claims it's on the "Digitial Specialty" tier, which based on their channel guide is just the regular digital cable. I can confirm that this afternoon I was getting it. Then both of my boxes had updates (their channels were reset) and now I'm not getting it. One box tells me I haven't subscribed to it, as if it's on the sports tier or something. My other box flips to it, but never gets a picture or sound. My brother called tonight to say he isn't getting it either. Maybe I'll call tomorrow if it isn't fixed... (Sorry for the non HD derail)


So they aren't delivering ESPNU in HD? Oh well, I've given up on cable and will switch to Dish next week. Just not enough HD service and other issues.

Just a note to let you know that WGHP-DT will be at greatly reduced power today as we do some tower work around the antenas so we will be on our old tower with the original DTV transmitter and antenna. We will be back to full power late in the afternoon.
I'm noticing real bad signal break up OTA, but no problems getting the signal from D*. I'm glad to see that this is happening for just routine maintenance and not some other problem.

So they aren't delivering ESPNU in HD? Oh well, I've given up on cable and will switch to Dish next week. Just not enough HD service and other issues.
Before you switch to Dish realize that they don't carry Greenboro's locals in HD. You'll have to get them via an antenna. Also, their HD DVR only has one over the air tuner so you won't be able to record two network shows in HD at the same time or watch one in HD and record another at the same time.

D* on the other hand, doesn't have either one of these problems. Plus they are on verge of a major HD rollout that will surpass Dishnetwork's current offerings.

Before you switch to Dish realize that they don't carry Greenboro's locals in HD. You'll have to get them via an antenna. Also, their HD DVR only has one over the air tuner so you won't be able to record two network shows in HD at the same time or watch one in HD and record another at the same time.

D* on the other hand, doesn't have either one of these problems. Plus they are on verge of a major HD rollout that will surpass Dishnetwork's current offerings.

+1

Also, ESPNU isn't offered in HD, so you won't find it on DirecTV or Dish.

Before you switch to Dish realize that they don't carry Greenboro's locals in HD. You'll have to get them via an antenna. Also, their HD DVR only has one over the air tuner so you won't be able to record two network shows in HD at the same time or watch one in HD and record another at the same time.

D* on the other hand, doesn't have either one of these problems. Plus they are on verge of a major HD rollout that will surpass Dishnetwork's current offerings.

I may need to do some more research. Concerning the DVR, I guess they have a new one now because it does claim to have dual tuners and will record two programs while you view a recording.

They claim to carry local channels in Greensboro. They offer local channels for an additional $5.95 per month.

They also claim to be "on the verge" of adding up to 150 HD channels.

That's too bad about ESPNU not being in HD. I was assuming that since ESPN already had two HD channels, they would be heading that way. Maybe it will happen before long.

As for D*...I guess I'm an idiot :o ! I thought the references to D* were references to Dish and for some reason the full name was being censored.

So what's D*? It's not DirectTV is it?

I may need to do some more research. Concerning the DVR, I guess they have a new one now because it does claim to have dual tuners and will record two programs while you view a recording.

They claim to carry local channels in Greensboro. They offer local channels for an additional $5.95 per month.

They also claim to be "on the verge" of adding up to 150 HD channels.

That's too bad about ESPNU not being in HD. I was assuming that since ESPN already had two HD channels, they would be heading that way. Maybe it will happen before long.

As for D*...I guess I'm an idiot :o ! I thought the references to D* were references to Dish and for some reason the full name was being censored.

So what's D*? It's not DirectTV is it?

D* stands for Directv. E* stands for DishNetwork (Echostar). The comments I made about no HD Locals and only one over the air tuner was in reference to DishNetwork. Directv offers HD Locals to our area and their HD DVR has two over the air tuners. It also has two satellite tuners.

D* = DirecTV
E* = EchoStar = Dish Network

They claim to carry local channels in Greensboro. They offer local channels for an additional $5.95 per month.

On AVS, D* is shorthand for DirecTV, E* is shorthand for Dish (the parent company is named "EchoStar" hence the E) and OTA digital TV is just DTV.

Dish does not and has not so far offered the local channels in HD (they offer local SD channels only) and they have not set a target date when they will offer HD local channels. Only cable and DirecTV has both local SD and HD stations.

They also claim to be "on the verge" of adding up to 150 HD channels.

E* has been claiming that since D* announced their 150 HD channel plans several years ago (Dish doesn't have the sat capacity to offer much more HD without serious PQ degregation or they will have to either lease more sat space or launch more sats). D* will be turning on 40 HD channels in the next few weeks with 70 by the end of September (the sat D10 is in final testing now and many of the HD channels are up in test mode now) and 100 by the end of the year.

D* subs are ready to go, E* subs are still waiting.

On AVS, D* is shorthand for DirecTV, E* is shorthand for Dish (the parent company is named "EchoStar" hence the E) and OTA digital TV is just DTV.

Dish does not and has not so far offered the local channels in HD (they offer local SD channels only) and they have not set a target date when they will offer HD local channels. Only cable and DirecTV has both local SD and HD stations.



E* has been claiming that since D* announced their 150 HD channel plans several years ago (Dish doesn't have the sat capacity to offer much more HD without serious PQ degregation or they will have to either lease more sat space or launch more sats). D* will be turning on 40 HD channels in the next few weeks with 70 by the end of September (the sat D10 is in final testing now and many of the HD channels are up in test mode now) and 100 by the end of the year.

D* subs are ready to go, E* subs are still waiting.



Thanks for the info. I think this might change my choice.

That's too bad about ESPNU not being in HD. I was assuming that since ESPN already had two HD channels, they would be heading that way. Maybe it will happen before long.


ESPN does have 2 channels. Both ESPN and ESPN2 are broadcast in HD and are both now available on TWC without the HD Tier. I'm not sure when/if ESPN plans to start doing the U in HD. I believe ESPNEWS is the next channel in their family to go HD.

Oh and ESPNU was back up on Friday. Though, we did notice some intermittent losses early in the evening at my dad's house. Hopefully TWC has these issues worked out for today.

Does anyone have a QAM Channel List for Greensboro?

I am using the built in tuner, and I need to find some certain channels. ie: ESPN-HD, ABC-HD. I seem to have found all the other HD Channels, but I cant find these.

why in the world does twc keep moving these chnls... i am no longer getting unc-hd or nbc-hd 82.1 & 82.4 arent working for me .. i am trying to get these channels over clear qam ... does anyone know where these channels ran off to.. tried rescanning and i havent seen them

Does anyone know if ESPN-HD is accessible through TWC without the settop box?

I seem to get alot of HD Channels without the box, but I cant find ESPN-HD and I would really like a list of where the HD Channels are located on a QAM tuner, like what frequency (ie: 113.1)

espnhd is a pay channel it comes with like 4 other channels that you pay 8 bux a month for.. so they are encoded and wont come thru

espnhd is a pay channel it comes with like 4 other channels that you pay 8 bux a month for.. so they are encoded and wont come thru

This is technically incorrect. It is true that you used to pay for the HD Tier to get ESPNHD. But, apparently part of the deal which TWC made with ABC/ESPN for ESPN2HD and ESPNU requires TWC to make ESPNHD (along with ESPN2HD) available without the tier. Frankly, right now anyone who is paying for the HD Pack needs to stop. I unsubscribed to it, a coworker unsubscribed to it, my dad *never* subscribed to it and we are all getting the HD tier for free. (ie. Mojo, HDNet, HDNet Movies - the only things on the tier)

It is, however, apparently true that ESPNHD has never been on QAM locally. Really, relying on TWC for QAM seems to be an exercise in frustration, which is too bad.

Does anyone know if ESPN-HD is accessible through TWC without the settop box?

I seem to get alot of HD Channels without the box, but I cant find ESPN-HD and I would really like a list of where the HD Channels are located on a QAM tuner, like what frequency (ie: 113.1)
Here are the HD channels I get via clear QAM in Greensboro on a Sharp. Keep in mind that different QAM tuners will likely have different channel assignments.

113.1 WGHP-DT
113.2 WFMY-DT
116.1 WXII-DT
93.1 WXLV-DT
0 DiscoveryHD Theatre
94.1 ESPN2-HD
116.4 WUNC-HD

ESPN-HD was briefly available on clear QAM around the time TWC added ESPN2-HD, but no more.

Here's what I get clear QAM in High Point on a Samsung DLP

80.10 Discovery HD Theater
93.45 WXLV
94.11 ESPN2
113.1 WFMY
113.2 WFMY (the news and weather channel - I don't know what the actual name is)
113.3 WGHP
113.16 UNC ED
116.3 WXII
116.4 WXII (again the news and weather channel - I don't know the actual name)
116.14 UNC

why in the world does twc keep moving these chnls... i am no longer getting unc-hd or nbc-hd 82.1 & 82.4 arent working for me .. i am trying to get these channels over clear qam ... does anyone know where these channels ran off to.. tried rescanning and i havent seen them

Try 108.1 and 108.3 That's where I found them (TWC in Winston-Salem) on a Westinghouse tv (but sometimes the channel numbers on this set don't agree exactly with what others post here, so you might try all of the 108 channels).

108.1 did it for me thanx... god twc sucks... they need to stop moving this stuff around every 2 weeks.. its frustrating

I'm in Danville & I just got a D* HR20 DVR. D* isn't carrying HD locals out of Roanoke/Lynchburg yet, however, Fox 8 HD & WXII HD are coming in nicely. WFMY is in the guide as an HD channel, however, when I tune to it, all I get is a gray screen. A friend got the same DVR in February & said that WFMY was there until recently, then just quit working. He actually called a D* tech out to check the dish/box, but obviously, with mine (and others I know in the area) having the same issue, it isn't the equipment.

Any help is appreciated, TIA

Are you trying to get WFMY via D* or OTA? I couldn't tell by your comment about the Roanoke locals. I thought I remembered flipping through WFMY Monday, but I'll check tonight.

At 5:15 I'm having no problem receiving WFMY via OTA.

Thanks for yalls responses. I dont know why they just dont let us get ESPN-HD, USA-HD over air.

ESPN-HD is hard to get on a college campus, cause i dont think the box works through all the stuff they do at Elon. Im gonna talk to Time Warner to see though

Thanks for yalls responses. I dont know why they just dont let us get ESPN-HD, USA-HD over air.
...Who is they? After all, it is a cable channel.

Are you trying to get WFMY via D* or OTA? I couldn't tell by your comment about the Roanoke locals. I thought I remembered flipping through WFMY Monday, but I'll check tonight.

Sorry, I am talking about the locals through D*, I don't have an OTA antenna at this time.

Checked last night and this morning and WFMY was coming in clear along with all of the other locals. You may want to check your panel bar color and change it on your HR20. The panel bar color also sets the color of the screen as the channel is being tuned. If after you change it the solid color you are seeing has changed to your panel bar color you probably just don't have a strong enough signal off the sat. I had instances a few months back where some of my locals went out and I didn't get any sort of searching for signal messages either. My signals on the 99 sat were very low. I realigned my dish and everything is good to go now. If you see the change in color as described above and/or you 99's are low I would have the installer come back out and realign your dish; if, of course, it was less than 90 days ago. Then either you'll have to do it or you'll have to pay them $70 to come out.

Thanks, I'll try that tonight. I have two friends with the same DVR (HR20) having the same issue here in Danville, so dish alignment seems doubtful.

Sorry, I am talking about the locals through D*, I don't have an OTA antenna at this time.

Which locals? Greensboro or Roanoke? The Greensboro digital stations are already on D*. Have been almost a year now.

Which locals? Greensboro or Roanoke? The Greensboro digital stations are already on D*. Have been almost a year now.

Maybe you didn't see my post on the previous page, I realize the Greensboro locals are already on D*. I am in Danville & we are getting WXII & Fox 8 in HD. Apparently, we "we're" getting WFMY in HD, but within the last month, it is on the guide, but you can't get any video or sound. I got my HR20 2 weeks ago & I've never gotten WFMY HD, but a friend here in Danville who's had his box since February said he was getting the channel, but has not gotten it in a few weeks. He has the same issue I have, a gray screen, no sound, NO "Call Customer Service" box. Another friend who got his HR20 2 weeks before me has the same problem.

HDNet Movies and HDNet are no longer in the basic digital tier. Still getting ESPNHD, although the screen says it is part of the $6.95 HD pack when I attempt to tune HD net or HDNet Movies.

Anyone getting ESPNHD or ESPN2HD on Greensboro TWC QAM? If so, what channel. I really don't want to re-scan because I then need to manually deleate all the empty and barker channels it finds.

Yep, looks like TWC clued in to the fact that they were giving away the tattered remains of the HD Pack for free. I can't believe they are still charging $7/month for it when ESPN is no longer a part of it. I can't imagine many people still subsribe to it. Of course there are probably plenty of people out there who don't know they don't need it for ESPNHD any more. It's not like TWC made a broad, loud announcement of the fact.

Oh shucks, no more Mojo, HDNet, and HDNet Movies. Of course, I can't remember the last time I actually watched anything on those besides one of the movie trailer shows.

It's not like TWC made a broad, loud announcement of the fact.
I saw an ad over the weekend from TWC announcing that their HD channels do not cost any extra. They made no mention to the channels they carry in HD, but the did say that there was no extra charge.

Of course there are probably plenty of people out there who don't know they don't need it for ESPNHD any more. It's not like TWC made a broad, loud announcement of the fact.
Correct, I wouldn't have known it if it wasn't for you guys here. Thanks! :)

Apparently i went by TWC today, and ESPN -HD and TNT-HD is included in the standard cable package.

Has anyone found them on QAM yet?

P.S. I talked to the one in Burlington which i guess falls under greensboro branch

Just because it is a part of the HD package doesn't mean TWC will put in the clear on a QAM channel. I would suspect they would only have it available via a STB, not open QAM. Just my opinion.

Apparently i went by TWC today, and ESPN -HD and TNT-HD is included in the standard cable package.

Has anyone found them on QAM yet?

P.S. I talked to the one in Burlington which i guess falls under greensboro branch

did a scan the other night and neither of these channels show up. once upon a time, ESPN-HD was in the clear but then one day it was gone :(. i've never seen TNT-HD via qam.

i'm a mythtv user and i really want to record ESPN-HD so i tried firewire through the cable box and i can get all of the standard tier hd channels except for ESPN-HD. I also got HDNET, INHD, and MOJO, for a few days but they recently got removed. So basically, the only channel i can get via firewire that i can't with QAM is TNT-HD. Does anyone know why TWC only encrypts ESPN-HD over firewire?

Yes I don't think there are any TWC affiliates that I know of that are passing along ESPN-HD or TNT-HD through QAM.

When ESPN-HD and ESPN2-HD got sent to the normal digital tier (and out of the HD package), this was part of the agreement between Disney and TNT to add ESPN2-HD. For about 3-4 weeks, ESPN-HD was available on my TV at 87-1. But then TWC eventually encrypted it.

TNT-HD has not been available via QAM in probably 18 months. I got it for over a year, but then it suddenly went away.

Sadly, I've taken the approach that whatever channels we get via QAM are free bonus channels, and to appreciate whatever I can find. TWC is totally inept and understanding QAM-related problems and being able to direct customers who are having issues. I finally gave up after 4-5 tries.

About a year go, I invested $50-60 in an attic antenna setup so I could pick up all of the locals (I live in southern W-S). That investment has already paid itself off, as it seems TWC repeatedly has QAM trouble or remaps channels randomly. For example, I currently can't get NBC on 82-1. I still get UNC-HD on 82-4, but NBC or Weather Plus. Thank goodness for my antenna!

Glad I found this forum. Are any of you using Home Theatre PC's? My understanding is that Microsoft does not support QAM in any of the Media Center editions.

If you are using an HTPC could you please tell what software package you are using to pick up QAM? I just purchased an antenna and it does not work good indoors. I was hoping to not have to mount it outside.

Thanks!

Glad I found this forum. Are any of you using Home Theatre PC's? My understanding is that Microsoft does not support QAM in any of the Media Center editions.

If you are using an HTPC could you please tell what software package you are using to pick up QAM? I just purchased an antenna and it does not work good indoors. I was hoping to not have to mount it outside.

Thanks!

i have two antennas mounted in my attic with a jointenna. between the two i can pick up all of the local broadcast channels but i had to get the positioning just right. i'm in northwest greensboro.

to pick up digital QAM channels i am using airstar hd 5000 tunder cards and a pchdtv5500 card with mythtv. i also have a hauppauge pvr-500 to pick up analog cable channels.

mythtv is an open source media center package that runs on linux. IMHO it is far superior to any software package available on the market, commercial or otherwise. here is a link to a very thorough walk through on setting up mythtv jarod wilson's guide to mythtv (http://www.wilsonet.com/).

the only downside of mythtv is that you can't currently record any premium channels (unless you're lucky enough to have a provider who doesn't encrypt everything) and until a company produces a tuner card with cable card support you won't be able.

from what i've read hdhomerun should work with media center for qam. also microsoft already has a compatible cablecard enabled tuner card but as of right now it is only available in a prebuilt system. if premium channels are important i would stick with media center. i'm sure at some point an hd tuner card with cablecard support will be availabe to the consumer as an add on for media center pc's. i can only hope that the same will be true for linux and mythtv but i'm not holding my breath.

thanks inorkuo. I had just read about theHdhomerun. I tried to load Myth a few years ago without any luck. Premium channels are not an issue. I am in NW GSO as well. I mounted a radio shack antenna on my roof last night. I am getting about half of the OTA by just eyeballing it. My current card is an Aver 180 and it does receive OAM - with their software.

Thanks again!

For example, I currently can't get NBC on 82-1.

I'm in Clemmons, and NBC is on 108.3 (on my cheap Westinghouse tv) - at least, it was 5 minutes ago. They might have moved it again by now. :rolleyes:

^^^ OK thanks DeKatt. I will try that tonight. Hasn't really been a big deal since I can pull in over the antenna, but it would be nice to find it again on the cable side, so I can channel surf easier!:p

So tonight I decided to fool around and see how much Direct TV is compared to my cable. I basically wanted to see how much it would cost me to get the same thing I get today from cable, and how much I would save monthly by doing so. (Only talking about TV service here. I assume I would keep the phone/internet on cable if I were to actually switch. Actually I am sure I would ask what my options were for both here first, but for now all I was looking at was TV.)

I currently have digital cable with an HD DVR in the living room and an HD box in my bedroom. I knew going in that I would have to give up TV in 3 other rooms since I don't want boxes in those rooms. I also get HBO and Showtime.

The cable cost of the above is $75/month plus $8 per premium. (This includes all rental fees for cable boxes.)

The Direct TV cost (which does include more channels, although according to their web site only a pittance of new HD channels.) is (normal rate) $70/month, but HBO is $13/month and Showtime is $12/month. I saw no way to save money by bundling 2 premium channels, only bunding 5 premium services which I don't want.

So in addition to Direct TV costing more a month, I also had a $300 start up charge which basically involves getting one HD receiver for free and paying $299 for an HD DVR. (I actually thought i would get the HD DVR for $199 and the HD receiver for free based on what I was reading, but it didn't tally up that way on the website.) I assume that the actual dish comes for free, since I couldn't find any pricing info for it and it didn't get added to my "Startup costs".

What gives? I have always heard Direct TV was cheaper than cable, but for what I get today it is in fact, more. Did I configure something wrong? Is Direct TV's website not correct (and therefore horrible)?

I also noticed next to nothing extra in HD I cared about on their website. I thought they already had stuff like Big Ten HD, TBS HD, Food HD, etc. Well, I couldn't see it anywhere on their channel lineups online. The only thing I would gain that I even moderately care about is Universal HD, and HDNet/Movies (2 of which I could get with the HD Tier on TWC).

This honestly, isn't meant to turn into a Direct TV/TWC argument. I was just very surprised to see that DTV would actually cost me more than cable. Am I missing something? Please tell me the info I got online is wrong.

You will get a far better deal if you contact Directv by phone and negotiate with the CSR. You should never sign up and commit your money over the internet with Directv or any other company for that matter. It will always be more economical to talk to a live person if you are looking to give them your business.

Also, DirecTV's 70 HD channels are scheduled to launch by the end of the month with 30 more to launch by the end of the year. Those HD channels that have SD counterparts will be apart of the regular charge, nothing extra and the HD only channels will be apart of the current HD Extra package plus you don't have all of those issues with channels coming and going with D* that you have with TWC. I felt sorry for all of the people a month or so ago on TWC when they lost their configuration and had channels coming and going when my D* were all stable.

And yes, call D*, don't just sign up off the webpage. You will get a better deal if you call them.

Yeah I saw on the other DTV thread that the new channels are likely coming this month (after I posted my question). I was very surprised at how little more DTV has now in regards to HD. I guess it's Dish that has (had) more HD channels for a while. (ie Voom, etc.)

So when you say call an operator to get a better deal, I assume you mean a better deal on equipment, yes? And maybe a temporary deal on the monthly free (which the website also offered). There's no way to reduce the normal, post intro monthly fee for HD/DVR Extra (tier/package) is there? I'm still very surprised that cable is competitive (if not outright cheaper - even with set top rental fees) than Direct TV since that goes against everything I had always heard or read. (Not to mention DTV's misleading advertising. Not that cable doesn't do the same thing...)

Tivo has just added new HD channels to the program grid for D*. They are not available yet when I go to the channel, but I'm guessing this means their arrival is imminent?!

I agree with the others that calling D* is the way to go. I've read from some people that they've been able to get all their equipment, including the HD DVR for free but talking to a CSR. You just have to put on your negotiating hat and tell them you have TWC and ask them what they can do to make you switch. If you don't get a deal you like, call back later and get a different CSR. You have to play CSR roulette until you get the right one.

I think what configuration of packages and equipment you get will determine which service is cheaper. Sometimes it will be D*, sometimes it will be cable. It's not always one or the other.

If you didn't see this, this list has been making it's way around the Internet.

From DirecTV, regarding new HD channel numbers:

Thanks for writing about our new HD programming. I see that you are a valued and loyal customer, we want you to know that we truly appreciate your business. After years of preparation, we’re excited that the first wave of new HD channels should be on the air by the end of September. Here are the channels and what numbers we expect to be available first:

A&E HD 265
Big Ten Network HD 220
Cartoon Network 296
Cinemax HD East 512
Cinemax HD West 514
CNN HD 202
ESPNews HD
Food Network HD 231-1
FSN New York HD 624
HBO HD West 504
HGTV-HD 229-1
The History Channel HD 269
Madison Square Garden HD 621
NFL Network HD 212
National Geographic Channel HD 276
Showtime HD West 540
Smithsonian Channel HD 267
Starz Comedy HD 519
Starz Edge HD 522
Starz Kids & Family HD 518
Starz HD East 520
Starz HD West 521
TBS in HD 247
The Movie Channel HD 544
Versus HD / Golf Channel HD 604
The Weather Channel HD 362

While details are still being finalized, we’re planning to bring up the following channels in October:

Animal Planet HD 282
Bravo HD 273
Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD 680, 640
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD 681, 629
Discovery Channel HD 278
Fox Business Channel HD 359
FSN Detroit HD 636
FSN Prime Ticket HD 653
FSN Southwest HD 643
FSN West HD 652
Fuel TV HD 612
FX HD 248
The Learning Channel HD 280
MGM HD 255
NBA TV HD 601-1
New England Sports Network HD
The Science Channel HD 284
Sci-Fi Network HD 244
Speed Channel HD 607
SportsNet New York HD 683, 625
USA Network HD 242
Yankees Entertainment & Sports HD (YES) 684, 622

Can't believe the panther/houston game is not HD!!??@$#$%

Boy, this sucks that CBS decided to the make the Panthers game their SD game this week. I wish when they did that, it was in widescreen at least like FOX does. I would bet that the truck that is in Charlotte is a HD truck in SD mode so it isn't like they couldn't do a widescreen SD game.

Can't believe the panther/houston game is not HD!!??@$#$%

These are the announced SD games for this week.

* Houston at Carolina 1 PM CBS (Gus Johnson, Steve Tasker)
* Cincinnati at Cleveland 1PM CBS (Bill Macatee, Steve Beuerlein)
* Seattle at Arizona 4:05 FOX (SD Widescreen) (Chris Rose,Terry Donahue)

Does anyone know if/when TWC plans to add any new HD channels? One would assume that both Dish and DirecTV adding new HD channels, Time Warner would at least show signs of doing something to keep up, but so far nothing.

They are having trouble keeping the HD channels on the air they already have.

Boy, this sucks that CBS decided to the make the Panthers game their SD game this week. I wish when they did that, it was in widescreen at least like FOX does. I would bet that the truck that is in Charlotte is a HD truck in SD mode so it isn't like they couldn't do a widescreen SD game.
Well that's interesting. I always thought (no facts here, just my impressions) that the reason why some of the games were not in HD was because they did not have the equipment to put at each venue. Are you saying that the equipment is there they, but they don't have the means to "uplink" the HD feed? Can you explain a little?

Well that's interesting. I always thought (no facts here, just my impressions) that the reason why some of the games were not in HD was because they did not have the equipment to put at each venue. Are you saying that the equipment is there they, but they don't have the means to "uplink" the HD feed? Can you explain a little?

The problem isn't venue equipment, it is distribution bandwidth to the affiliates for both FOX and CBS. From what I am reading in the trades, they haven't built a pure SD truck in the last 2 years. They all have been multi format trucks, SD, SD widescreen, 720p/1080i. Most of the truck cameras now do both 720p/1080i depending on the network they will be feeding.

The networks haven't said if they will continue to support SD and HD distribution post transition, but I would have to guess that they will have to stop supporting 480i as a network distribution format because of the additional bandwidth it requires and most stations will be taking the HD feeds anyway.

Does anyone know if/when TWC plans to add any new HD channels? One would assume that both Dish and DirecTV adding new HD channels, Time Warner would at least show signs of doing something to keep up, but so far nothing.

Don't count on TWC doing anything based on what Direct TV does. TWC's focus is on their cash cow - bundling TV, internet, and phone service.

There was this from the general TWC thread. Link Here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11555994&postcount=2340)

I emailed Mr. Jack Stanley, President of TWC Greensboro, NC. I asked him about SDV and additional HD programming. His reply was that SDV is deployed in the Greensboro area. He also stated that there would be public announcements made soon on the addition of additional HD programming both broadcast and non-broadcast by years end and at the beginning of 2008. he also added that, "I'm confident you will like our changes."

Someone in Charlotte just posted in another thread that the CBS truck in Charlotte IS an HD truck and the game is being piped in the stadium in HD and going out to CBS in HD where they are downconverting it.

Someone in Charlotte just posted in another thread that the CBS truck in Charlotte IS an HD truck and the game is being piped in the stadium in HD and going out to CBS in HD where they are downconverting it.

I was just checking around making sure it wasn't a WNCT problem. This bites.:(

Don't count on TWC doing anything based on what Direct TV does. TWC's focus is on their cash cow - bundling TV, internet, and phone service.

There was this from the general TWC thread. Link Here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11555994&postcount=2340)

Yeah that doesn't really surprise me. "Our Changes" most likely refers to their addition of one HD channel. Time Warner is awful; I just canceled their digital phone service after it worked about 30% of the time but I'm thinking about switching altogether. My neighbor has an antenna and he gets more content in HD than I get with cable.

My neighbor has an antenna and he gets more content in HD than I get with cable.
I'm not a TWC fanboy. I've been pretty disappointed with the rate of HD additions, but I find this pretty hard to believe. Your neighbor with an antenna can only get the networks. With TWC, you get the big 4 networks, plus DiscoverHD, TNT-HD, ESPN-HD, ESPN2-HD, and then Mojo and the HDNets if you want to pay the $7/mo.

I know rts1 had contacted Jack Stanley last week and he said something like there would be "significant" additions, or something to that effect. So I'm anxious to see what they come up with. I doubt it will be nearly as much as Dish or DirecTV, so we'll see.

I hope they do something soon. I'm getting just a little jumpy seeing that D will be adding channels in a couple of days an still nothing firm from twc.

I'm not a TWC fanboy. I've been pretty disappointed with the rate of HD additions, but I find this pretty hard to believe. Your neighbor with an antenna can only get the networks. With TWC, you get the big 4 networks, plus DiscoverHD, TNT-HD, ESPN-HD, ESPN2-HD, and then Mojo and the HDNets if you want to pay the $7/mo.

I know rts1 had contacted Jack Stanley last week and he said something like there would be "significant" additions, or something to that effect. So I'm anxious to see what they come up with. I doubt it will be nearly as much as Dish or DirecTV, so we'll see.

More HD content wasn't exactly what I meant to say, but he gets HD (or at least digital) channels OTA that Time Warner doesn't carry, namely My 48 and The CW, neither of which Time Warner carries. It just frustrates me that Time Warner doesn't carry these.

I'm only mildly frustrated that TWC doesn't have 48 and the CW since they don't really have much programming I'd watch.

But I am getting really envious of DTV's new lineup! I'd love to have these:

A&E HD 265
Cartoon Network 296
Cinemax HD East 512
Cinemax HD West 514
CNN HD 202
ESPNews HD
Food Network HD 231-1
HGTV-HD 229-1
The History Channel HD 269
NFL Network HD 212
National Geographic Channel HD 276
Showtime HD West 540
Starz Comedy HD 519
Starz Edge HD 522
Starz HD East 520
TBS in HD 247
The Movie Channel HD 544
The Weather Channel HD 362

Animal Planet HD 282
FX HD 248
The Learning Channel HD 280
The Science Channel HD 284
Sci-Fi Network HD 244
Speed Channel HD 607
USA Network HD 242

We'll let you know how it is. Rumor has it they are to go live on the 19th.

From TWC:

Thank you for contacting Time Warner Cable. We know that our customers are interested in more high-definition channels and we are currently reviewing stations that would be appealing. We hope to have more HD channels available to you soon. We appreciate you letting us know what is important to you and will gladly forward your request to our marketing department for further review. If you need further assistance, please reply via e-mail or contact our 24 hour Customer Service department at 1-800-334-7143.

I did a rescan last night on one of my TV's with a QAM tuner and, much to my surprise, found WCWG among the digital channels (don't recall the channel assignment). Beauty and the Geek was on, which I assume is not broadcast in hi-def? Is WCWG-DT available via TWC's stb's? I didn't see it there on my other set. Does WCWG broadcast any hi-def programming?

I have seen some HD on the CW20 via OTA. I have not seen the digital signal on TWC yet......maybe soon then?

I have seen some HD on the CW20 via OTA. I have not seen the digital signal on TWC yet......maybe soon then?

I e-mailed TWC & The CW last week about this since I've been hating the fact that the CW is in HD in Raleigh, but not here in Greensboro. According to TWC, they have no plans, but will forward my request to their marketing group. The CW said they didn't broadcast HD through TWC right now, but to check out their over-the-air HD channel.

On a side note, I a new TV/DVD combo for my mom from Best Buy & hooked it up using an antenna (no cable in the kitchen/dining room area). When we set it up, I noticed it had component inputs (for a $150 TV- I'm obviously a little bit out of the loop). I finally got around to scanning the channels the other night and was pleasantly surprised to find that the TV had a digital tuner in it.

Big moral of the story is that I "have seen the light" and now know what everyone has been talking about.

I am recieving WCWG HD (or at least digital) over cable. TWC Digital Channel 536

Yup, TWC has added channel 536! Now we have the CW in HD. Next would be MY48 for locals.

Looks like Time Warner will finally add some new HD channels - looks like 9 new channels on October 15th. CNN, A&E, Lifetime, Universal, WMYV, Food Network, Golf/Versus, History, MTV.

Here is a link to the Winston-Salem journal article...

http://journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352822091&path=%21localnews&s=1037645509099

I am recieving WCWG HD (or at least digital) over cable. TWC Digital Channel 536
Hmm, I could be mistaken, but I believe Switched Digital has taken its first HD channel then. I can get 536 on my SA8300 box, but it's showing "channel not available" on my TiVo S3 with cablecards. It's not listed yet in the TiVo guide, but I don't think it needs to be for it to show up when tuned directly. D'oh!

Looks like Time Warner will finally add some new HD channels - looks like 9 new channels on October 15th. CNN, A&E, Lifetime, Universal, WMYV, Food Network, Golf/Versus, History, MTV.

Here is a link to the Winston-Salem journal article...

http://journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352822091&path=%21localnews&s=1037645509099
If all of those go on SDV, then I'll be faced with a tough decision. May be time to call up DirecTV, but I can't fathom giving up my TiVo's.

Great news. Kudos to TWC for not waiting years to add some new channels. The # of channels I pine for in HD is shrinking.

If they'll just get

HBO (when they all go HD)
FX-HD
USA-HD
SCI-FI-HD
and our FOX RSN in HD, I'll be quite pleased.

One more HD channel coming on October 1st...yeah...TBSHD apparently in time for the playoffs...

http://www.tvpredictions.com/twtbs092007.htm

Thanks to TWC for finally getting on the HD wagon.

Next would be Discovery and TLC in HD>

It figures that the day I post I see the CW in HD on TWC. It was quite the pleasant surprise when I flipped from NBC-HD to ABC-HD and found it there before the new Smallville season starts.

The new HD channels are great. Too bad there's no Discovery HD yet, that's what I want most, but I can't complain too much. History Channel HD should keep me distracted enough for the time being.

I spoke too soon about the SDV, I *can* get 536 with my TiVo S3, so I'm cautiously optimistic about the new HD channels then.

The one I most wanted to see on that list was National Geographic HD.

I am new to the forum...looking for someone who can assist... I have Dish and I want to find out who to contact regarding getting my local channels in HD. According to Dish this is a legislation issue - of course not a problem on their end. Does anyone know anything about this?
Greensboro Market - Winston Salem NC

The new HD channels are great. Too bad there's no Discovery HD yet, that's what I want most, but I can't complain too much. History Channel HD should keep me distracted enough for the time being.


Discovery HD has been cable for almost 4 years or more - or at least as long as I've had the HD service.

Discovery HD has been cable for almost 4 years or more - or at least as long as I've had the HD service.

The channel you're referring to is Discovery HD Theater. The channel itsah2 is referring to is a HD simulcast of the existing regular Discovery channel. These are two different channels.

I am new to the forum...looking for someone who can assist... I have Dish and I want to find out who to contact regarding getting my local channels in HD. According to Dish this is a legislation issue - of course not a problem on their end. Does anyone know anything about this?
Greensboro Market - Winston Salem NC
It certainly isn't a legislative issue. That's just the excuse they are giving you. Directv offers HD locals in this market without any legislative problems. Directv had ABC HD before even TWC in this market.

Directv has more TV markets with HD locals than DishNetwork. This is because Directv concentrated on rolling out more HD locals and DishNetwork concentrated on rolling out more National HD channels.

I am new to the forum...looking for someone who can assist... I have Dish and I want to find out who to contact regarding getting my local channels in HD. According to Dish this is a legislation issue - of course not a problem on their end. Does anyone know anything about this?
Greensboro Market - Winston Salem NC

Dish has had approval from the local stations for the HD feed for quite a while. They have chosen to not offer them, probably due to bandwidth limitations in their system. Dish is under considerable pressure to keep up with the national HD channels from cable and DirecTV right now and that has limited their ability to offer the local HD channels. Dish took the stance of several years ago that more national HD was the way to go because their configuration handles that better. DirecTV on the other hand, took the stance to provide more HD local service by launching HD local satellites and when more nation HD channels were available they then had the satellites in orbit with the correct bandwidth to start to offering national HD channels. DirecTV was highly criticized for that stance over the last few years, but looking at in retrospect today, it appears it was the correct stance to take. DirecTV offered what was available at the time, (HD local) and built on that. Now there is an explosion of national HD channels, they now have the bandwidth in place to handle it. Dish on the other hand, doesn't have the bandwidth for either HD local or HD nationals in the amount to counter the onslaught of DirecTV and cable.

DirecTV has been offering local HD channels for almost a year now and Dish has announced no date when the local HD channels will be available. Unlike DirecTV which owns all of their satellites, Dish doesn't own all of the satellites they broadcast from and has to lease a lot of satellite space with other companies to provide the service they do. That is why Dish has to have multiple dishes pointed all over the sky for their servces and DirecTV only in a 20 degree arc from 99 degrees to 119 degrees with one dish. When completed, DirecTV will have all of their HD, national and local in a 5 degree arc from 99 degrees to 103 degrees allowing the 110 and 119 degree satellites to either be used for non HD services, backups or removed completely from service while still proving 1500 HD local channels and 150 HD national channels.

DirecTV is in the process of rolling out 100 new national HD channels by the end of the year with the first group going on line any day now. Dish is trying to reconfigure their existing bandwidth to provide more HD but is having a hard time doing it and maintaining the same level of service quality.

Hope that helps understand what is happening locally and why.

Are there any HD programs on CW?

Are there any HD programs on CW?

Yes.

Oh you wanted details? I think in general in prime time the scripted stuff is and the reality stuff isn't. I am not a watcher of any CW stuff, but on Wednesday when it showed up I flipped to it a couple times and noted that America's Next Top Model wasn't in HD, but Gossip Girl was. I assume Smallville is since I saw that airing once or twice on HDNet back when I was still getting it.

Thanks, I'll try that tonight. I have two friends with the same DVR (HR20) having the same issue here in Danville, so dish alignment seems doubtful.
Did you ever get your problem figured out? I ask because I was reading a post on dbstalk.com that mentioned that if you don't have your b-band converter boxes attached you could get this. Although in this situation you would never get a signal from any of the HD locals. I think I remember you saying that it was intermittent. Anther possible reason is that you are diplexing an OTA line with one of the lines you have running into your HR20. A reason why you wouldn't see it all the time is because you don't have control over which tuner your HR20 is using when trying to view the channel. Here's the thread I was reading:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99972

Look at post #15

I hope you already got this problem resolved. But if not, here's some other troubleshooting ideas.

Are there any HD programs on CW?

I just emailed them and asked what porgrams were in HD. I couldn't seem to find that info on their website. Will post if I get an answer.

I emailed Jack Stanley at TWC about whether the new channels would be on SDV and I got this reply from Buck Yarbrough:

WCWG and other local broadcast stations are not part of switched digital video. SDV will be an important part of future deployment. Recently announced cable programmer additions that you may have seen in the paper will be on the SDV platform.

I would certainly regret losing you as a customer and ask that you carefully consider any decision to go with a satellite provider.

We have found that many customers end up coming back to Time Warner Cable because of hidden costs, long term contracts with early termination penalties, equipment expenses, (I've seen price points of around $300 for a satellite HD receiver) plus, when you consider recurring technical service charges, satellite service can be very expensive.

Time Warner Cable's 24/7/365 service is free and delivered by local folks that live and work in this community.

One of Time Warner Cable's best features is that our customers enjoy the advantages of being able to bundle Video, Road Runner High Speed Online and Digital Phone service into money saving packages that satellite simply can't deliver.

Regards,
Buck Yarborough
Director, Government & Public Affairs
Time Warner Cable

I would certainly regret losing you as a customer and ask that you carefully consider any decision to go with a satellite provider.

That line is very telling. He doesn't have anything he can say to keep you except a "please don't go." There is your headline about cable right there.

Any sightings of new channels? Channel 498 confirms that your B-band converter is working with the new sats, but that is the only sign of new HD channels on my system at least.

Not yet. They are up in test mode now though so it should be anytime.

DirecTV must be close in launching the new HD channels. They did a 3 hour test early this morning and those who saw the 2 test channels, NGC and Discovery Channel say the PQ was outstanding.

Has WXLV not been at full power the last week or so ???

What's the deal with ABC 45 on DirecTV HD? I'm having to watch ABC out of Charlotte to see the race.

Anyone watching the Ken Burns series called The War on PBS tonight? I'm watching it on 26-2 and it looks like the audio is a lagging behind the video slightly. I use my DirecTV receivers (tried both HR10 and HR20) to view it OTA. Both have the same issue. Can anyone report the same problem?

Has WXLV not been at full power the last week or so ???
WXLV has been at full power, no changes.

What's the deal with ABC 45 on DirecTV HD? I'm having to watch ABC out of Charlotte to see the race.
I did not see the race today. Was it not in HD?

WXLV has been at full power, no changes.

Odd then, because it was a very regular signal at my house in North Raleigh along with 2 and 20. I realize I'm in a null in your pattern, but I had suprisingly consistent reception. 8 and 48 much less reliable, and 12 never. But even on days with 48 squeaks in, nothing from 45 (29). Might be something else, like WRAY analog 30 spilling out of band trash into 29.

Anyone watching the Ken Burns series called The War on PBS tonight? I'm watching it on 26-2 and it looks like the audio is a lagging behind the video slightly. I use my DirecTV receivers (tried both HR10 and HR20) to view it OTA. Both have the same issue. Can anyone report the same problem?

On my H20 OTA off of WUNC-DT (4-2) same thing, a small lip sync error. I think it was coming from UNC TV. I TiVoed the analog channel (channel 26 off of D*) and it had no lip sync issue.

Agree, I started getting pissed because I thought it was the Tivo. I guess it was UNC.

Anyone watching the Ken Burns series called The War on PBS tonight? I'm watching it on 26-2 and it looks like the audio is a lagging behind the video slightly. I use my DirecTV receivers (tried both HR10 and HR20) to view it OTA. Both have the same issue. Can anyone report the same problem?

Same problem via UNC fiber feed to Time Warner Raleigh, and WUNC OTA.

I have not seen any HD programs on WCWG.

I have not seen any HD programs on WCWG.

http://tv.ign.com/articles/821/821009p1.html

Weekly TV schedule with HD marked for all channels.

Just a head's up to the D* crowd.....Discovery ChannelHD and NGCHD are up on 9300 and 9301 right now.

9300 is now showing A&E HD.

I have not seen any HD programs on WCWG.

Everybody Hates Chris is in HD on WCWG.

someone started a thread here to track the arrival of D* HD channels

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908393

Everybody Hates Chris is in HD on WCWG.

Thanks I saw it. I found out today after calling WCWG that HD is only prime time 8pm-10pm.

drthlandry thanks for your post also. Handy Guide

Discovery HD Theater and ESPN2HD have both gone off air over QAM here. I'm in NW Greensboro, anyone else not getting these over QAM?

Discovery HD Theater and ESPN2HD have both gone off air over QAM here. I'm in NW Greensboro, anyone else not getting these over QAM?

Ditto here. Also in NW Greensboro.

someone started a thread here to track the arrival of D* HD channels

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908393
Launched this morning. Here's the list:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=97211

Discovery HD Theater and ESPN2HD have both gone off air over QAM here. I'm in NW Greensboro, anyone else not getting these over QAM?

I've lost them, too, in Winston-Salem (actually Clemmons).

I've lost them, too, in Winston-Salem (actually Clemmons).

so are we to assume they've taken those channels off of QAM? I didn't figure on getting them forever but I'll definitely miss DiscoveryHD Theater

Perhaps they just got moved with the addition of CW in clear QAM. Time for a rescan? What a pain to do all the deletes needed after a rescan.

On another topic, I was hoping to see cheaper DTV converter boxes with HD capability on the market next year. However, no box with an HD output will be eligible for the government $40 coupon so the low cost boxes to be built for this market will not have a secondary market of those with HD monitors that want OTA TV. I wonder how many of these SD only boxes will actually be bought and used.

Perhaps they just got moved with the addition of CW in clear QAM. Time for a rescan? What a pain to do all the deletes needed after a rescan.

ESPN2-HD and Discovery HD Theatre are no where to be found, even after a re-scan. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. Guess only the broadcast channels will be available via QAM from now on.

I e-mailed TimeWarner in response to the new HD channels on Directv, and received this response today.


Thank you for contacting Time Warner Cable. We plan to bring over 20 new high-definition channels to our customers by the end of October, 2007. These will include WMYV Channel 48, the local MyNetworkTV affiliate, on Channel 531, and cable channels A&E HD, MTV HD, History Channel HD, CNN HD, Lifetime Movies HD, Food Network HD, Golf Channel/Versus HD, and Universal HD. Our existing digital service customers will receive these new channels for no additional fees. Universal HD will be available on our HD Pack. If you need further assistance, please reply via e-mail or contact our 24 hour Customer Service department at 1-800-334-7143.



We appreciate the opportunity to assist you. Your satisfaction is our priority, so please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any unanswered questions or concerns. If you reply to this e-mail, be sure to include the original correspondence so we may better assist you.



Emilie

Customer Service Specialist

CustomerService@triadtwcable.com

www.triadtwcable.com

1-800-334-7143

Perhaps they just got moved with the addition of CW in clear QAM. Time for a rescan? What a pain to do all the deletes needed after a rescan.

I suspect they are now SDV.

On another topic, I was hoping to see cheaper DTV converter boxes with HD capability on the market next year. However, no box with an HD output will be eligible for the government $40 coupon so the low cost boxes to be built for this market will not have a secondary market of those with HD monitors that want OTA TV. I wonder how many of these SD only boxes will actually be bought and used.

The law that authorized these boxes stipulated that they had to be SD only to keep the cost down. The thought is there will be more demand than boxes in the program. Congress has, as usual, underfunded the program and expects to save money in the long run. Remember, once the coupon is issued, you will have only 90 days to get your box before it becomes void. That is another "gotcha" written into the bill so most of the auction money STAYS in the US Treasury.

That is all Congress really cares about. They really don't care about whether you watch TV or not. This whole Markey "transition is on a path of destruction" is a lot of empty talk so if the transition does go bust, Congress already has their finger pointing AWAY from themselves. It will be EVERYONE'S fault EXCEPT Congress'. Mark my words. The CYA is already underway.

I e-mailed TimeWarner in response to the new HD channels on Directv, and received this response today.


Thank you for contacting Time Warner Cable. We plan to bring over 20 new high-definition channels to our customers by the end of October, 2007. These will include WMYV Channel 48, the local MyNetworkTV affiliate, on Channel 531, and cable channels A&E HD, MTV HD, History Channel HD, CNN HD, Lifetime Movies HD, Food Network HD, Golf Channel/Versus HD, and Universal HD. Our existing digital service customers will receive these new channels for no additional fees. Universal HD will be available on our HD Pack. If you need further assistance, please reply via e-mail or contact our 24 hour Customer Service department at 1-800-334-7143.



We appreciate the opportunity to assist you. Your satisfaction is our priority, so please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any unanswered questions or concerns. If you reply to this e-mail, be sure to include the original correspondence so we may better assist you.



Emilie

Customer Service Specialist

CustomerService@triadtwcable.com

www.triadtwcable.com

1-800-334-7143

By the time that TWC add their 20 new HD channels D* will be over 50 if you count HD locals. D* will probably also add a large number of HD RSNs. They also have more channels announce for after October and a large number of additional channels by Spring of 2008. TWC is going to have to do more to keep up.

By the time that TWC add their 20 new HD channels D* will be over 50 if you count HD locals. D* will probably also add a large number of HD RSNs. They also have more channels announce for after October and a large number of additional channels by Spring of 2008. TWC is going to have to do more to keep up.

No doubt they'll have more work to do, but this is exciting nonetheless. For someone who is basically unwilling to switch for a variety of reasons, these 20 new channels are very good news. Also, 20 new channels is more than the list they gave in the email. I wonder what other channels are included...

I'm hoping for the other Discovery Networks channels in HD for TWC.

I suspect they are now SDV.
Nope, I can still get ESPN2-HD and Discovery HD Theater on my TiVo S3 with cablecards, so they haven't moved them to SDV.

Nope, I can still get ESPN2-HD and Discovery HD Theater on my TiVo S3 with cablecards, so they haven't moved them to SDV.
I just did yet another rescan to see if TWC had added them back to clear QAM, but they are not there. However, I now receive My48-HD via clear QAM, I assume in preparation for its launch on TWC in a couple of weeks.

Did you ever get your problem figured out? I ask because I was reading a post on dbstalk.com that mentioned that if you don't have your b-band converter boxes attached you could get this. Although in this situation you would never get a signal from any of the HD locals. I think I remember you saying that it was intermittent. Anther possible reason is that you are diplexing an OTA line with one of the lines you have running into your HR20. A reason why you wouldn't see it all the time is because you don't have control over which tuner your HR20 is using when trying to view the channel. Here's the thread I was reading:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99972

Look at post #15

I hope you already got this problem resolved. But if not, here's some other troubleshooting ideas.

Ironic, I was reading through that thread when I decided to jump over here, thanks for the input. The problem hasn't changed. I'll look at that OTA line when I get home. The reason I don't think that's an issue is that I get Fox 8 HD & WXII HD just fine. Plus, I'm getting the new D* channels perfectly.

As I've said, 2 other friends with the same boxes have the exact same problem, getting 8 & 12 in HD, but not 2.

Ironic, I was reading through that thread when I decided to jump over here, thanks for the input. The problem hasn't changed. I'll look at that OTA line when I get home. The reason I don't think that's an issue is that I get Fox 8 HD & WXII HD just fine. Plus, I'm getting the new D* channels perfectly.

As I've said, 2 other friends with the same boxes have the exact same problem, getting 8 & 12 in HD, but not 2.
You can isolate it down to a specific line/tuner. Go to the channel you want to test and note whether it comes in. Change to another channel, then a third and the back to the original. You'll then be using the other tuner. When changing channels the HR20 will alternate tuners. For instance if you want to check 8, tune th 8 -> random channel -> another random channel -> back to 8.

Anyone notice any glitches during last night's smallville on WCWG? It'd go "black screen" a time or two during the commercials, and thankfully, only once during the actual show (in the beginning, during the "recap"). I'm watching ATSC OTA.

Anyone notice any glitches during last night's smallville on WCWG? It'd go "black screen" a time or two during the commercials, and thankfully, only once during the actual show (in the beginning, during the "recap"). I'm watching ATSC OTA.

I was about to ask the same thing. I had the same problem during the recap at the beginning and two commercials. I was watching it through TWC's HD-DVR Box (not sure of the model).

I was about to ask the same thing. I had the same problem during the recap at the beginning and two commercials. I was watching it through TWC's HD-DVR Box (not sure of the model).

Thanks for the confirmation. I think that WCWG was having problems somewhere before/behind their two transmitters, I also saw some "black screening" on TWC analog... but that's in low def. Who wants to watch that closely? :p

Speaking of drop outs, did anyone notice the audio dropping out during CSI on WFMY-DT last night?

Somebody is asleep at the switch at WXII. They haven't turned on the HD feed of the President's Cup.

Somebody is asleep at the switch at WXII. They haven't turned on the HD feed of the President's Cup.

They must have made the mistake of watching it. ;)

They must have made the mistake of watching it. ;)

it was working the first few minutes of the program. I searched wxii12.com for a contact concerning it, but didnt find anything.

Call the news department and tell them to tell master control to flip the switch.

336-703-6200 in case it happens again (which I'm sure it will)

TBS HD is up this morning on TWC (more stretching!). I didn't see MyNetwork 48, and frankly I'd prefer they save the bandwidth for something worthwile.

TBS HD is up this morning on TWC (more stretching!). I didn't see MyNetwork 48, and frankly I'd prefer they save the bandwidth for something worthwile.

Yeah, nothing like 2 hours of short, fat Evvrybody Loves Raymond. On the upside, the inning of the Braves game I watched on TBSHD on D* looked awesome yesterday! Make sure to check out the Padres game this afternoon.

As far as MYTV 48, the digital channel looks 300% better for Raycom/LF ACC games and Simpsons reruns than the analog. I have an antenna on each TV for these.

As far as MYTV 48, the digital channel looks 300% better for Raycom/LF ACC games and Simpsons reruns than the analog. I have an antenna on each TV for these.

Fair point. Does watching Raycomm in digital SD make Steve Martin and Rick Walker less moronic? (Grasping at straws here.)

No, but at least you can actually read the numbers of the jerseys.

I thought the local Saturday Raycom games were on WXLV 45? I watched the Clemson-NCSU game a week ago Saturday on 45.1, not MYTV 48? Am I confused?:confused:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. Didn't Raycom test out their HD during the ACC tournament last year? I thought that was a test in hopes to have ACC football and the upcoming basketball in HD. I haven't seen any Raycom football broadcasts in HD yet this year. Have there been any?

Raycomm seems to float around a bit from channel to channel. I think you can see games on either 45 or 48 (if ABC has a noon game). I think during basketball season some games still show up on WFMY as well, but I am not sure about that one.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. Didn't Raycom test out their HD during the ACC tournament last year? I thought that was a test in hopes to have ACC football and the upcoming basketball in HD. I haven't seen any Raycom football broadcasts in HD yet this year. Have there been any?
New HD equipment will not be in for Raycom games until next year. In our case we have to have HD receivers and crossover cards to change between 720p and 1080i. Right now we only have the ability to broadcast the HD of our networks, both of which are 720p.

Can someone else confirm whether TWC has installed TBS-HD? I don't see it yet here in Winston. I'll be ticked off if I can't see the MLB playoffs in HD.

In Greensboro, TBS-HD was put in this morning at channel 552. Nothing better than upscaled Saved by the Bell episodes with Leah Remini to get your day started.:)

Can someone else confirm whether TWC has installed TBS-HD? I don't see it yet here in Winston. I'll be ticked off if I can't see the MLB playoffs in HD.

I am in Winston and it is also on channel 552. Upscaled Raymond looks better than I thought it would.

In Greensboro, TBS-HD was put in this morning at channel 552. Nothing better than upscaled Saved by the Bell episodes with Leah Remini to get your day started.:)

Must be the summer break at the beach resort episodes :) ahhh bliss

In Greensboro, TBS-HD was put in this morning at channel 552. Nothing better than upscaled Saved by the Bell episodes with Leah Remini to get your day started.:)

I guess my life is now complete. ;) Why MLB chose to put their playoffs on TBS this year is beyond my understanding.

No channel 552 on my set yet, but I'll keep trying.

I guess my life is now complete. ;) Why MLB chose to put their playoffs on TBS this year is beyond my understanding.


Fox got sick of the low ratings (particularly for the NL whose CS will be entirely on TBS this year which is pathetic) and wiping out a lot of their early Fall season airing them.

I guess my life is now complete. ;) Why MLB chose to put their playoffs on TBS this year is beyond my understanding.

No channel 552 on my set yet, but I'll keep trying.

I'm in Clemmons, NC and getting it on 552. I'm watching the MLB tiebreaker game and I must say the picture is crystal clear. Really looks great.

I'm in Clemmons, NC and getting it on 552. I'm watching the MLB tiebreaker game and I must say the picture is crystal clear. Really looks great.

yea it looks excellent

Fox got sick of the low ratings (particularly for the NL whose CS will be entirely on TBS this year which is pathetic) and wiping out a lot of their early Fall season airing them.

That is completely true and has been widely published. If it hadn't been for HUGE American Idol numbers (remember we get Super Bowl type ratings every week with AI), instead of the last 3 years FOX being the number 1 network, it could have been the 5 or 6 network due to post season MLB play and the terrible ratings it brings along with the regular season ratings.

The reason TBS got it was because they offered the most money. Remember, these sport leagues don't care about audience, (look at NFLN, eight games a season and hardly any one can see them) they care about money, so if you are willing to pay what they are asking, then they are more than happy to take your money.

But then remember people said the same thing about FOX, why did the NFL give it to a know nothing network like FOX who didn't have the coverage of CBS? Why did FOX pay MORE money than CBS when at the time most of the FOX stations were low powered UHF stations? (I remember Radio Shack running antenna ads for "UHF football antennas.") That one deal made FOX a real network so it was worth it in the long run. FOX didn't buy us until after the NFL deal was secured. The first year of the FOX NFL contract ran on channel 45 before it switched to us when we became the FOX affiliate and channel 45 became the ABC affiliate. Our first year was also the first year the Panthers played so 45 has never gotten to show the Panthers for a full season like us and channel 2 and channel 12. The only time 45 had the Panthers were if they were on MNF.

It is surprising the number of people who don't remember when it was only CBS with the NFC and NBC with the AFC and ABC with MNF and that wasn't but 15 years ago.

SIDEBAR, some of the CBS stations around the country changed to FOX to continue to carry the NFC games (it DID happened in Green Bay where FOX has never owned a station and when the CBS went to the NBC station, NBC was going to have to go to a low power UHF, so NBC sued FOX in a backhanded way trying to stop the network swap saying that News Corp {parent of FOX} violated the ownership rules by not being a US incorporated company which at the time was true, but the name that was on the station licenses were NOT News Corp but of an American citizen named Rupert Murdoch {News Corp has since become a US corporation, which is what started the whole John Malone/DirecTV sale issue, and the licenses are now in the name of FOX Television Stations, Inc} which is legal so the court threw the suit out and the network swap took place and it also just so happened that FOX bought the Milwaukee CBS at the same time they bought us so the Packers stayed on that station but a few others did change too.). It was heavily rumored that WBTV, channel 3 in Charlotte approached FOX about giving up the CBS affiliation to go FOX but decided it wasn't worth losing the national news and the additional network hours lost since FOX doesn't offer daytime programming. Remember, back in those days there was no FOX News Channel and FOX was the Married... With Children and X Files network. Not a lot to hang you hat on if you had been a full service station for 40 years. Of course many of the stations FOX bought at the same time they bought us had been old line, full service CBS stations so in the end, it didn't matter for many of those CBS stations.

I have a feeling that money aside, MLB can't be happy about one of its 2 LCSes being relegated to cable. And didn't FOX have to relinquish the rights so TBS could bid on them? (Or were they at the end of their contract?) Of course the real low point for MLB was when they had the stupid "Baseball Network" and playoffs were regional. I am sure FOX and MLB are praying for a World Series matching up the Cubs vs. the winner of a Yankees/Red Sox ALCS.

Yes, FOX was ridiculed for spending the ridiculous amount of money they did on the NFL, but it was obviously a brlliant move as it legitimized them as a network. How far they have come. I still say they are only 2/3 a network since they don't offer 3 hours of prime time programming. :) (I am a FOX fan. I love House and Family Guy, and not much else in prime time these days.)

Does FOX still pay more for the NFC than CBS does for the AFC? If so, they are getting screwed now. Or does the NFC still outdraw the AFC in ratings despite the disparity in good teams?

I really doubt that FOX would finish 5th without AI. 4th certainly, but they would still beat the CW! :)

Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy will only be available in SD tonight on WFMY.
Our HD tape machine has failed it's power supply.:( A replacement has been ordered overnight. We should be back in the HD tape machine business tomorrow.
Wish us luck please.:)

Rickey.

I have a feeling that money aside, MLB can't be happy about one of its 2 LCSes being relegated to cable. And didn't FOX have to relinquish the rights so TBS could bid on them? (Or were they at the end of their contract?)

Contract was over and FOX didn't bid on both LCS' by design.

I am sure FOX and MLB are praying for a World Series matching up the Cubs vs. the winner of a Yankees/Red Sox ALCS.

Every year.

Yes, FOX was ridiculed for spending the ridiculous amount of money they did on the NFL, but it was obviously a brlliant move as it legitimized them as a network. How far they have come.

Not at the time it wasn't. We were still owned by Citicasters then and FOX hadn't announced they were going on a station buying spree to support this. It was written up as a colossal blunder on FOX's part. Murdoch was a fool. FOX would never be able to pay for it. It would drive the network into bankuptcy... yada, yada, yada. The usual stuff you hear today about Mr Murdoch anytime he goes into a big deal.

It was only AFTER the announced purchase of the all VHF old line New World stations (which were mostly very old CBS stations and which we had just become a part of as one of the two ABC stations, WBRC Birmingham being the other ABC and only one NBC station, WDAF Kansas City) did the overall picture of what FOX had in mind start to materialize but there were still plenty of naysayers then that FOX would still not be able to pay for it, Murdoch had bitten off more than he could chew, he didn't know the American market, yada, yada, yada.

When it was announced we were changing to FOX, everyone at the station thought we were going to lose our jobs since FOX was not known for news or large staffs and we had about 115 people working there at the time and channel 45 about 60 people working there. Again remember there was no FOX News Channel and the NFL deal had just been announced so we had no idea what FOX had in mind for the future or us, but as time has shown, there was a plan and FOX worked the plan, but it was a pretty big risk at the time. (Also remember in the FOX movie "Independence Day", it was shot in 1995 and used an Americanized version of the News Corp British Sky News and KTTV FOX 11 as the news stations in the movie since there was not a FOX News Channel. Go back and look!) We don't think much of it now because it was over 12 years ago, but at the time, many heads were craning saying, what the hay? Nothing of this or like this on this scale had ever happened or been attempted in American television history and we were very much into uncharted water and the ripples of that are still being felt today.

We had some people leave and go to 45 when it was announced that they would be the ABC station because there was little hope that they would have a job after the network change. But it is interesting that the people who stayed were never fired. They either left years later for other reasons or still work here today. I am not sure how many of those who left to go to 45 are still there. My feeling is not many.

I still say they are only 2/3 a network since they don't offer 3 hours of prime time programming. :) (I am a FOX fan. I love House and Family Guy, and not much else in prime time these days.)

Official FCC listing for a full time network has to do with the number of prime time hours programmed. FOX is listed as a part time network because FOX programs 2 hours a night. And having that 10pm hour open to local programming has helped those FOX stations who do news and particularly the old line stations like us who have historically been known for news to do an hour 10pm news. We consistently win head to head 4 of the 5 of the weeknights against network programming the 10pm hour with our news and have since day one. Even when channel 48 did their 10pm news, our ratings never slipped, even then, much too the disbelief of those at Sinclair, not only locally but nationally we hear. So 2 hours a night of prime has been a good thing for us. Zane is free to confirm or deny it since I have no first hand knowledge it was ever said, but we heard it was said in several places.

Does FOX still pay more for the NFC than CBS does for the AFC? If so, they are getting screwed now. Or does the NFC still outdraw the AFC in ratings despite the disparity in good teams?

I don't know, but the NFL is screwing everyone now, that is for sure.

I really doubt that FOX would finish 5th without AI. 4th certainly, but they would still beat the CW! :)

You didn't see the data I saw!! :D

Now that TWC is now doing their switch video and changing the frequencies that the stations are on every couple of days I am seriously thinking of getting an antenna and just going with OTA for my hdtv.. but i checked out antennaweb.org and they do not show fox with an OTA Digital station. Can this be right? Surely Fox has a Digital OTA station here in winston-salem. Can anyone tell me?

The FOX Transmitter is down near Randleman. IIRC, if I point my dinky antenna correctly I can get it up here in Martinsville, so WS should be no problem unless their signal is directional.

Now that TWC is now doing their switch video and changing the frequencies that the stations are on every couple of days I am seriously thinking of getting an antenna and just going with OTA for my hdtv.. but i checked out antennaweb.org and they do not show fox with an OTA Digital station. Can this be right? Surely Fox has a Digital OTA station here in winston-salem. Can anyone tell me?

FOX8 WGHP has had a digital station on channel 35 since 2002 and increased to full power, 1 million watts, last year. We cover Winston-Salem well. The tower is located at Randleman, just north of Asheboro.

Now that TWC is now doing their switch video and changing the frequencies that the stations are on every couple of days I am seriously thinking of getting an antenna and just going with OTA for my hdtv.. but i checked out antennaweb.org and they do not show fox with an OTA Digital station. Can this be right? Surely Fox has a Digital OTA station here in winston-salem. Can anyone tell me?

Yes, Fox should show up quite well. Just note that Fox, ABC, CBS, and CW are coming from the south-east while NBC and PBS are coming from the north. They're all pretty strong, but it's just something to think about when choosing and placing your antenna.

Best regards,
Andy

Mejor,

You may want to try a setup similar to mine. I got tired of TWC and their random reassignments on QAM, so I purchased two of these antennas:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103088&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032205&parentPage=family

A $2-3 combiner that hooks the two together and I get pick up all the locals with a varied signal range usually around the mid 70's. The antennas are in my attic, and I have one pointed towards Level Cross for WGHP, WXLV, WFMY. Then the other one is pointed to Sauratown Mt. for WXII and PBS. I am located along the Forsyth / Davidson County line around HW 52.

These are UHF only, so that may become a problem down the road if some of the stations switch back to VHF after the digital conversion. But this creates a good setup for around $60-75, and you don't have to fool with a rotor, amplifier or complicate matters. This was very easy to do and relatively cheap.

I was having problems getting NBC last night over the air downstairs and it was a bit "fuzzy" upstairs. I will check to see if I'm just not pointed correctly sometime.

Also, was anyone else having any problems with TNT last night during the baseball games? The Red Sox/Angels game was choppy in places (mostly whenever I was switching over from watching "Pushing Daises")?

I'm still not getting TBS-HD from TWC. The only reason I care is because of the MLB playoffs, which really suck on SD. So I thought I'd share my experience with TWC on this issue.

When I called TWC and explained that I used a CableCard, she talked with someone at technical support and concluded I needed a new CableCard. Of course, it would take two days to get someone over to do the 15 second replacement, but I didn't complain about that. So last night, the TWC service dude shows up, and I explain the problem (no TBS-HD, probably need a new CableCard). He has a blank expression, then asks me, "What's a CableCard? Do you get those at BestBuy?" Disheartened by this response, I pulled it out from the TV and showed him that it was indeed a product that I rent from TWC. He admitted he had never seen one (or even heard of one) before, but then he said he was from King and filling in for Winston calls, and he guessed that no one in Stokes County owns a CableCard. I decided to make no comment to that, but suggested that he call his supervisor for advice. To make a long story short, after a long conversation and some testing from the office, the supervisor concluded that my CableCard is fine, but there's something wrong with the head-in (or header, or something) that sends the signal to me. They promised to get it fixed, but in the meantime my only option is to keep calling TWC and watch baseball on crappy SD.

Wish me luck.

Sorry to hear about that. It is actually possible to get a TWC Service rep. who is knowledgeable, friendly, and will help you out a great deal. Sadly, these occasions are rare. It's worse when they contract out the service to complete numbskulls who know less about the equipment they are installing than I do. Once I went into the diagnostic screen of the cable box to see the signal strength and the service guy was blown away. "Whoa! How'd you do that?" I also had work done at my house the weekend ABC finally showed up in HD. I asked the service guy, "Hey when did you guys turn on ABC HD?" and his reply was "We've been airing it for years." Thanks for the info, moron.

slksc,
You won't be able to get TBS-HD with a cable card. TWC put it on the switched digital tier (SDV). Only 2 way devices like their cable boxes will be able to receive all the new HD channels they're adding this month.

Mejor,

You may want to try a setup similar to mine. I got tired of TWC and their random reassignments on QAM, so I purchased two of these antennas:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103088&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032205&parentPage=family

A $2-3 combiner that hooks the two together and I get pick up all the locals with a varied signal range usually around the mid 70's. The antennas are in my attic, and I have one pointed towards Level Cross for WGHP, WXLV, WFMY. Then the other one is pointed to Sauratown Mt. for WXII and PBS. I am located along the Forsyth / Davidson County line around HW 52.

These are UHF only, so that may become a problem down the road if some of the stations switch back to VHF after the digital conversion. But this creates a good setup for around $60-75, and you don't have to fool with a rotor, amplifier or complicate matters. This was very easy to do and relatively cheap.


thanks, we live in the same area as well... and i was actually thinking of this same exact type of setup. lol.

I just watched last week’s numb3rs from the TWC DVR. Midway through the picture lost horizontal frame and the first 1/3 was on the right side of the screen for about 20 minutes, then it went to color bars for a second and fianlly corrected. I think this was a CBS or station problem. Never seen anything like this before.

slksc,
You won't be able to get TBS-HD with a cable card. TWC put it on the switched digital tier (SDV). Only 2 way devices like their cable boxes will be able to receive all the new HD channels they're adding this month.

Thank you, jacksonian. I've spoken to at least five different service people at TWC about this issue, each time emphasizing that I have a CableCard. No one has ever even mentioned this as a possibility. I will contact them again and have a talk about SDV.

Time Warner has put a list of the new HD channels coming October 15 on their website. I emailed them to ask whether or not it was a complete list because of the speculation about 20 new channels (they've listed 10), but haven't heard back yet.

New Channels:
WMYV - 531
MHD (Music High Defenition) - 545
A&E HD - 554
The History Channel HD - 555
HGTV HD - 557
Food Network HD - 558
Universal HD - 561 (with HD Pack only :( )
Golf Channel/Versus HD - 569
CNN HD - 575
Lifetime Movie Network HD - 581

Link: http://www.timewarnercable.com/PiedmontTriad/programming/hdtvnets.html

Thank you, jacksonian. I've spoken to at least five different service people at TWC about this issue, each time emphasizing that I have a CableCard. No one has ever even mentioned this as a possibility. I will contact them again and have a talk about SDV.
Here's a link to the SDV FAQ thread over in the TiVoCommunity forum where we've talked about SDV ad nauseum. I know it's about how SDV affects TiVo's, but it's essentially the same for you because cable cards are at the heart of the problem for both.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=357703

And BTW, I'm 10000% positive that's the problem you're having. I have a TWC SA box downstairs and I get TBS-HD on that, but not on my cable card TiVo's, and I also have confirmation from our local TWC operations manager via email that all these new HD channels would be on SDV. So you won't be able to get any of the ones itsah2 just listed above either.

foxeng--What's up with the Panthers' game--not in HD on 8. It started HD on 18 out of Charlotte, but they went SD too. Tech glitch?

After the break--back to HD on 18, still SD on 8.

After the break--back to HD on 18, still SD on 8.


back to HD on TWC channel 510

It was a network issue. I am not in town but I got a call when the splicer showed an error and the master op on duty wanted to know what to do since he had never seen that error before. He called network and they must have gotten it straightened out. I am in eastern TN right now and the local FOX station here has the ATL at Titans game and it seems to be correct.