So I moved to NYC last night and am getting jack on east cost HD signals. Nothing on 80...

Any thoughts?

Regards,

Bob

Hmmmm. They're shouldn't be any magic to it and of course it's not a spot beam issue. I have seen some D* changes that activate at midnight or whatever, but you've waited 1 midnight already.

So you get 2, 4, 5, and 7 but not 80, 82, 86 and 88? Have you added them to the TiVo's 'Channels You Receive' list and/or 'Favorite Channels' list? If you hadn't, you wouldn't be able to channel up/down to 80-88 but would be able to punch in the channel number to the remote and get the HD channel directly.

Oh, one more idea - are you sure your dish gets all 3 satellites well? These are on a different satellite, I think - can't ever remember which is which.

If none of this helps, it shouldn't hurt you to call D* for help. Maybe their computers are jacked for your account.

So I moved to NYC last night and am getting jack on east cost HD signals. Nothing on 80...

Try rebooting your tivo... just unplug the power cord for 1 minute and then plug it back in. That's what I had to do when I "moved", and then the channels came in just fine. :)

~ Tim

Hmmmm. They're shouldn't be any magic to it and of course it's not a spot beam issue. I have seen some D* changes that activate at midnight or whatever, but you've waited 1 midnight already.

So you get 2, 4, 5, and 7 but not 80, 82, 86 and 88? Have you added them to the TiVo's 'Channels You Receive' list and/or 'Favorite Channels' list? If you hadn't, you wouldn't be able to channel up/down to 80-88 but would be able to punch in the channel number to the remote and get the HD channel directly.

Oh, one more idea - are you sure your dish gets all 3 satellites well? These are on a different satellite, I think - can't ever remember which is which.

If none of this helps, it shouldn't hurt you to call D* for help. Maybe their computers are jacked for your account.

I don't get 2,4, 5...I see my old locals listed but not tuned. I've tried to change the guide with no luck but wasn't too thorough due to family time etc. I do show 80, 82 etc but don't tune them in.

I have noticed that I'm not pulling in all transponders (28 to be specific). How do I tell what satellites I'm pulling? That may be the issue.

Thanks for the help...very much appreciated.

Regards,

Bob

I'm done waiting for KRDO and KOAA. I think I might just have to "move" to New York as well. Is there still an extra charge for the New York or LA locals?

Does anyone know what's up with KXRM (Fox) HD in the Springs? Over the past few weeks, the signal has seemed very sketchy. I've always had great strength from KKTV, and now KRDO SD OTA is great too.

I used to have a Terk OTA with my Dish setup that showed signal strength. After moving, I have the DirecTV HD Receiver (H10), and it doesn't appear to show the signal. So all I can do is sort of wait and see if I get a picture when I select it in the guide.

Thanks...

Hmmmm. They're shouldn't be any magic to it and of course it's not a spot beam issue. I have seen some D* changes that activate at midnight or whatever, but you've waited 1 midnight already.

So you get 2, 4, 5, and 7 but not 80, 82, 86 and 88? Have you added them to the TiVo's 'Channels You Receive' list and/or 'Favorite Channels' list? If you hadn't, you wouldn't be able to channel up/down to 80-88 but would be able to punch in the channel number to the remote and get the HD channel directly.

Oh, one more idea - are you sure your dish gets all 3 satellites well? These are on a different satellite, I think - can't ever remember which is which.

If none of this helps, it shouldn't hurt you to call D* for help. Maybe their computers are jacked for your account.

Do I need to go into the setup and change the zip code?

Just a thought...still at work and unable to test signal strengths.

Regards,

Bob

Does anyone know what's up with KXRM (Fox) HD in the Springs? Over the past few weeks, the signal has seemed very sketchy. I've always had great strength from KKTV, and now KRDO SD OTA is great too.

I used to have a Terk OTA with my Dish setup that showed signal strength. After moving, I have the DirecTV HD Receiver (H10), and it doesn't appear to show the signal. So all I can do is sort of wait and see if I get a picture when I select it in the guide.


I haven't had any issues with KXRM and regularly record House on my HD-TiVo. You said you recently moved to Monument? I'm in Monument and I have to have a pre-amp in order to pull in KXRM.

I haven't had any issues with KXRM and regularly record House on my HD-TiVo. You said you recently moved to Monument? I'm in Monument and I have to have a pre-amp in order to pull in KXRM.

Hi Chance - Thanks for your reply. I have lived in Monument for 4 years. If you can believe it, I moved from one place in Jackson Creek to another. In any case, the antenna appears to be something like a Winegard Sensar II. I'll have to use my ladder to see if it has a pre-amp installed, but my guess is that the answer is "no".

Thanks a lot for steering me in the right direction. I'm looking forward to restoring House, NFL games and (soon enough) 24 to HD Splendor. :)

I have noticed that I'm not pulling in all transponders (28 to be specific). How do I tell what satellites I'm pulling?
There's something in the satellite that refers to 101, 110 and 119, which are the 3 satellite positions.

I'm done waiting for KRDO and KOAA. I think I might just have to "move" to New York as well. Is there still an extra charge for the New York or LA locals?
No, the extra charge was for out of market stations. When you live in New York, then New York are your locals for free (hypothetically, of course). It's pretty rare situations any more that allow someone to be able to get both NY and LA.

So I moved to NYC last night and am getting jack on east cost HD signals. Nothing on 80...

Any thoughts?

Regards,

Bob


Bob, did you go through the setup on the receiver and change your zip code to your "new" zip code? The receiver might not realize that you've "moved" yet.

Just a thought.

If you can believe it, I moved from one place in Jackson Creek to another.

I believe it. Last time I moved, it was 2 miles away. :)

In any case, the antenna appears to be something like a Winegard Sensar II. I'll have to use my ladder to see if it has a pre-amp installed, but my guess is that the answer is "no".


I live quite bit further North of you, so you might be OK without a preamp and maybe just adjusting your antenna direction.

Bob, did you go through the setup on the receiver and change your zip code to your "new" zip code? The receiver might not realize that you've "moved" yet.

Just a thought.

Thanks for the response...I'm good to go. Had to do a reset from D* end. Called the 800#, ext 721, they had an automated reset done w/out talking to a human. Thought that was pretty cool.

Regards,

Bob

Hi Chance - Thanks for your reply. I have lived in Monument for 4 years. If you can believe it, I moved from one place in Jackson Creek to another. In any case, the antenna appears to be something like a Winegard Sensar II. I'll have to use my ladder to see if it has a pre-amp installed, but my guess is that the answer is "no".

Thanks a lot for steering me in the right direction. I'm looking forward to restoring House, NFL games and (soon enough) 24 to HD Splendor. :)

I am also located in jackson creek. I have a channel master mounted in my attic and have had no problems pulling in KXRM. I am not using a pre-amp and have the HDTivo for tuning.

Has anyone heard anything from KRDO recently on their HDTV timeline? (My last email to Joe Reed, etc. went unanswered - perhaps because the email was not too nice! :D )

The Super Bowl will be here before you know it and there's also the BCS games at the beginning of January!

I'm still hoping KOAA can meet their Feb. 1 target for HD - that gives them 9 days of buffer before the Olympics start.

Just wondering,
Rob

For those that have "moved" their DirecTV service, have you found any downsides?

I know I won't be able to get KOAA since they don't have a digital signal, but my HDTiVo will still get KKTV-DT, KXRM-DT, & KRDO-DT.

I could use my sister-in-law's address in So. Cal. (since they have cable) which would get me the LA HD Locals - would I get the NY HD Locals too?

Thanks in advance,
Rob

For those that have "moved" their DirecTV service, have you found any downsides?
As you seem to know, you'll lose your SD locals.

I could use my sister-in-law's address in So. Cal. (since they have cable) which would get me the LA HD Locals - would I get the NY HD Locals too?
No.

Denver may be an attractive place to move soon. HD LIL would be nice. Now getting the install done in C/S? Could be tricky.
....jc

Now getting the install done in C/S? Could be tricky.

Whats to install, if you have a phase III dish and an HDTivo or receiver already installed, ya just call and they flip the switch.

I 'moved' to Denver back before they offered SD locals in COS. It was painless.

The only other downside for HD would be you may not get the OTA HD locals in the program guide anymore, but I'm not certain about that.

HD LIL would be nice. Now getting the install done in C/S? Could be tricky.

Whats to install, if you have a phase III dish and an HDTivo or receiver already installed, ya just call and they flip the switch.

I 'moved' to Denver back before they offered SD locals in COS. It was painless.
I was talking about HD LIL. :cool: And the new 5 LNB dish that needs to be installed. :)
....jc

The only other downside for HD would be you may not get the OTA HD locals in the program guide anymore, but I'm not certain about that.

Nah you're ok, that's just a function of what zip code you input into your receiver. I "moved" to LA and get both the national HD feeds and the OTA locals and they all show up just fine in my guide.

The only real downside that I've found is that you can only get the WB feed if you "move" to LA. I had initially "moved" to NY and then found out that all locals are spot fed and are too far away for us to pick them up. But, when I "moved" to LA I was able to pick up the WB, but again no other LA locals due to the spot feed. Unfortunatley, I found out later that LA for some reason has 2 WB stations, and half the programs are shown on one and the other half on the other. :( And as luck would have it the one I can't get (showing VM and SV) is the one I want. :( But I guess that's a small price to pay for getting LOST, ALIAS, MNF and DHW in HD.

My wife said its Karma... she's been watching too much of Earl. :p

So does anyone know when the WB will be broadcasting an OTA digital signal? I don't think anyone using an HR10-250 will be able to pick up an analog signal correct? Now that I think about it... shouldn't I be able to pick up the local WB station in analog with my second nonHD receiver?

So does anyone know when the WB will be broadcasting an OTA digital signal? I don't think anyone using an HR10-250 will be able to pick up an analog signal correct? Now that I think about it... shouldn't I be able to pick up the local WB station in analog with my second nonHD receiver?
To my knowledge, the only WB station in Colorado is WB2 in Englewood. And it's broadcasting one of the most powerful HD signals in the state at 450 kW. Since I can't pick it up in WP, it's very doubtful that you'll be able to receive it in C/S.
....jc

Has anyone heard anything from KRDO recently on their HDTV timeline? (My last email to Joe Reed, etc. went unanswered - perhaps because the email was not too nice! :D )

The Super Bowl will be here before you know it and there's also the BCS games at the beginning of January!

I'm still hoping KOAA can meet their Feb. 1 target for HD - that gives them 9 days of buffer before the Olympics start.

Just wondering,
Rob
KRDO Engineering - Joe Reed - 575-6213

For those that have "moved" their DirecTV service, have you found any downsides?

I know I won't be able to get KOAA since they don't have a digital signal, but my HDTiVo will still get KKTV-DT, KXRM-DT, & KRDO-DT.

I could use my sister-in-law's address in So. Cal. (since they have cable) which would get me the LA HD Locals - would I get the NY HD Locals too?

Thanks in advance,
Rob
The downsides are minor -
no PBS (for my daughter)
local news/weather only available on the HD receiver
have to pay subscriptions to get local sports such as Nuggets, Rockies, Avs

LA residents don't get NY HD locals - the LA stations own their eyeballs

I was talking about HD LIL. :cool: And the new 5 LNB dish that needs to be installed. :)
....jc
Plus swapping all your MPEG-2 receivers for the new MPEG-4 receivers, and there is no TiVo or DVR yet for MPEG-4.

I was talking about HD LIL. :cool: And the new 5 LNB dish that needs to be installed. :)
....jc

Ahh yes, good points, my mistake. :)

Nah you're ok, that's just a function of what zip code you input into your receiver. I "moved" to LA and get both the national HD feeds and the OTA locals and they all show up just fine in my guide.

The only real downside that I've found is that you can only get the WB feed if you "move" to LA. I had initially "moved" to NY and then found out that all locals are spot fed and are too far away for us to pick them up. But, when I "moved" to LA I was able to pick up the WB, but again no other LA locals due to the spot feed. Unfortunatley, I found out later that LA for some reason has 2 WB stations, and half the programs are shown on one and the other half on the other. :( And as luck would have it the one I can't get (showing VM and SV) is the one I want.

OK, that's good to know about the OTA locals on the guide.

So the spots you mention only apply to WB, correct? Big nets (CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX) are all available via 110 on the national HD feed, for those that 'move'?

NY: Big 4 and big 4 only at this time on D*.
LA: Big 4 + some of WB on D*.

It is a huge thing that the guide brings in accurate show info for the NY or LA HD stations, adjusted for our time zone, plus at the same time brings in OTA data for our locals in Mountain time. So recordings work from any source.

NY prime time = 6:00-9:00 pm Colorado time
LA prime time = 9:00-midnight Colorado time
CO prime time = 7:00-10:00 OTA

Tivo Tivo

OK, that's good to know about the OTA locals on the guide.

So the spots you mention only apply to WB, correct? Big nets (CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX) are all available via 110 on the national HD feed, for those that 'move'?

Thats correct. You'll get the big 4 in HD and 1 of the 2 LA WB stations.

DTV, working on HDTV:
ABC - KRDO - 13-1 on 24

Curious if anyone has picked this up in the Castle Rock area.... I have UHF beam pointed towards Republic Plaza and trying to decide if worth the effort to try to get... Also, is this broadcast on 13-1 or 24-1, thus would I need a VHF antenna pointed south! Agian, if anyone has experience in Castle Rock pls advise.

Interestingly Im getting a Fox station on 23-1 today, weak signal but there, and guessing out of Colorado Springs!

DTV, working on HDTV:
ABC - KRDO - 13-1 on 24

Curious if anyone has picked this up in the Castle Rock area.... I have UHF beam pointed towards Republic Plaza and trying to decide if worth the effort to try to get... Also, is this broadcast on 13-1 or 24-1, thus would I need a VHF antenna pointed south! Agian, if anyone has experience in Castle Rock pls advise.

Interestingly Im getting a Fox station on 23-1 today, weak signal but there, and guessing out of Colorado Springs!
The frequency is 24 and maps to 13-1, so it's UHF

Fox KXRM should be UHF 22 coming in on 21-1, not 23-1. They also have that Tube music channel on 21-2.

Well the fox is on 22-1 (not 23-1) so not sure where its coming from! Really would expect to get full strenght COS signals here in Castle Rock, especially since Im on higher ground...

Well the fox is on 22-1 (not 23-1) so not sure where its coming from! Really would expect to get full strenght COS signals here in Castle Rock, especially since Im on higher ground...
What you are seeing is KFCT Fox 22 out of Fort Collins. It usually simulcasts KDVR's Fox 31 out of Denver.
....jc

Is FOX coming in normal for everyone today. I'm experiencing some dropouts watching the cowboys/giants game.

I watched the entire Cowboys/Giants game on FXRM-DT and didn't notice any problems.
But, I did skip over all the commercials and many of the huddles as I was going back and forth between that game and the Steelers/Bengals game - can't beat the HDTiVo allowing you to see every play for 2 games that are on at the same time!! :)

The downsides are minor -
...
have to pay subscriptions to get local sports such as Nuggets, Rockies, Avs
...


That's a good point that I hadn't thought of - but that also means that I would be able to get my Lakers on Fox Sports West 1&2!
Hmmm, I might just have to "move" sooner rather than later...

Rob

I'm thinking of moving (literally), to another house in another neighborhood. But some of these newer neighborhoods probably don't allow or at least have strict restrictions on where an outdoor uhf antenna can be placed and what type. Anybody know of some decent neighbhorhoods with liberal covenances with regards to antennas and dishes? I'm betting places like Pine Creek will want attic antennas.

...But some of these newer neighborhoods probably don't allow or at least have strict restrictions on where an outdoor uhf antenna can be placed and what type. Anybody know of some decent neighbhorhoods with liberal covenances with regards to antennas and dishes? I'm betting places like Pine Creek will want attic antennas.
Unless you are afraid of the clowns that run the HOA's, just find your new house and move. I think that the FCC has a bit more clout than any HOA.
....jc

Anybody know of some decent neighborhoods with liberal covenances with regards to antennas and dishes? I'm betting places like Pine Creek will want attic antennas.

jc is right... HOAs can't tell you you can't have an antenna and they can't require you to place it out of site. That doesn't mean that some haven't tried; some may even still have those types of by-laws in the book, but it has been ruled that they are not enforceable.

--Eric

Cool, thanks.

Anybody notice a drop in signal from KRDO? For a while there they were broadcasting at what seemed like full power - I was getting signal in the 80's and 90's on my HDTivo. But starting yesterday I'm back down in the teens and 20's, which no change to my antenna. Did they pull the plug?

-Sean

I'll check. I wonder if they got their first electric bill for full power. :(

Yea, its been missing since wed. for me...

KRDO, yup signal is now down in the teens for me.

Anybody notice a drop in signal from KRDO? For a while there they were broadcasting at what seemed like full power - I was getting signal in the 80's and 90's on my HDTivo. But starting yesterday I'm back down in the teens and 20's, which no change to my antenna. Did they pull the plug?

-Sean


How do I find the signal strength on my HD Tivo...?

How do I find the signal strength on my HD Tivo...?

DirecTV button / Messages & Setup / Settings / Sat & Off Air Ant / Test Off Air Signal / OK

Arrow up to the Freq, Right arrow to Freq 10, 22, 24, 26 to check COS locals. Freq 24 is KRDO.

from a previous post:

# CH.......Network......Freq...Peak (T1/T2)
# 8-1.......PBS/KTSC.....26.....79/78
# 11-1.....CBS/KKTV.....10.....89/90
# 13-1.....ABC/KRDO....24....16/17 *
# 21-1.....FOX/KXRM.....22.....81/82

Their main transmitter went down and they are using their back-up. They may have an HD signal on the air in time for a few college bowl games too.

They may have an HD signal on the air in time for a few college bowl games too.
How do you know this?

Roy

KRDO is back, I am getting 92 signal strength now. This is the strongest of all the DTV in COS for my location.

How do you know this?

Roy
Short version, I asked one of the people that work for KRDO.

Nice job, Frank, with the info.

FYI, a cool shortcut to signal strength on the HD-TiVo is to:
1. Get up off the couch (this is the hardest part)
2. Push the Info button and the Right arrow button on the front panel at the same time

You get an immediate signal strength indicator for Antenna 1, Antenna 2, Satellite 1, Satellite 2

DirecTV button / Messages & Setup / Settings / Sat & Off Air Ant / Test Off Air Signal / OK

Arrow up to the Freq, Right arrow to Freq 10, 22, 24, 26 to check COS locals. Freq 24 is KRDO.

from a previous post:

# CH.......Network......Freq...Peak (T1/T2)
# 8-1.......PBS/KTSC.....26.....79/78
# 11-1.....CBS/KKTV.....10.....89/90
# 13-1.....ABC/KRDO....24....16/17 *
# 21-1.....FOX/KXRM.....22.....81/82


THANKS FOR THIS EXCLELLENT RESPONSE !!!! :)

Thanks TallGuy for the shortcut !! :)

No HD for the Broncos today...We've gotten spoiled by most of their games being one of CBS' best 3 games they choose to produce in HD...

Push the Info button and the Right arrow button on the front panel at the same time


Way cool short cut, instant gratification. thanks tallguy.

Never thought anyone would want to get off the couch to try it. :D

yeah, but by the time I do
DirecTV button / Messages & Setup / Settings / Sat & Off Air Ant / Test Off Air Signal / OK
I may as well get off the couch. ;)

At approximately 18:13 about a 1 minute portion of 60 minutes repeated itself. This was on KKTV(analog) weird. The program was proceeding, and w/o a break or anything, what I just watched was shown again. Interesting to say the least! :eek:
....jc

Deja Vu - It's a sign of the Matrix..... Get out while you can.

Have you all taken a look through this page
http://www.tvradioworld.com/region1/co/tv_information.asp?m=col

Have you all taken a look through this page
http://www.tvradioworld.com/region1/co/tv_information.asp?m=col

So it looks like they are remapping channels to the actual frequency. I lke it, much less confusing IMO I wonder where the Tube will be? 22-2 I guess.

So can anyone explain the vast difference in B'Casting power for each of these?
Power : 20, 200, 850, 880, 1000

KKTV-DT B'casting power: 20.1 kW

KXRM-DT B'casting power: 850 kW

KRDO-DT B'casting power: 200 kW

KTSC-DT B'casting power: 1000 kW

KOAA-DT B'casting power: 880 kW

I'm not smart in this area but I think VHF has different (lower) power requirements, explaining the KKTV 20 kW. Then KRDO was at low power but is probably more than 200 now. The rest are within a close range.

VHF has different (lower) power requirements,

Yeah, OK that makes sense.

Rmassey....
Originally I believe max power for VHF Lo (2-6) was 100kw; for VHF Hi (7-13) it was 316kw.....Ratings were/are ERP (effective radiated power), NOT necessarily transmitter output...UHFs are something on the order of 5000kw, since the power transfer efficiency is less...at least, this was so when running klystron (tube) PA assemblies; with solid-state devices in operation nowadays, this may (likely) have changed...... :confused:

Maybe you've already found this, but if not:

As well as being able to directly tune to the virtual HD channels into an HD DirecTiVo, you can also enter the actual broadcast frequency and subchannel.

For example, you can tune in all 6 of the subchannels for KXRM-DT by entering:

22-1 / 22-2 / 22-3 / 22-4 / 22-5 / 22-6

(The dash is the button above the 3 button that has the (-) printed by it.)

Substitute a "10" for KKTV, etc;

Some of the 1-6 have content, some do not.

I thought it was interesting to see how the stations have chosen to divvy up their channels.

KXRM has 6 subchannels?? Will have to check that out.

I hope multicasting doesn't take over our town - apparently it has really made the HD picture horrible in other places.

Mine wouldn't tune to 22-1 or 22-2, etc. I wonder if I'd have to do a more recent scan of all channels out there first...

dsanbo,

The max ERP's you quote are correct but they apply to analog and only apply to Zone 2. Zone 1 is the northeast, which have lower max power due to interference from nearby stations and from being in the Canadian border zone. Digital max power is approx 20% of analog's, so a 5,000 kW analog UHF station is limited to 1000 kW digital. The Springs stations were not at the max analog power and I suspect, for replicating analog coverage, their digital power will not be at the max allowable. KXRM is only 1000 kW on analog, so, to replicate coverage, their digital is a mere 51 kW. KRDO is only at 282 kw analog, and their digital is only 200 kW. I don't believe any Springs stations are at max analog, nor will they be for digital. I believe the highest ERP will be 880 kW for DT 42, KOAA, if they ever get on the air.

milehighmike....
Thanks for the clarification.....(can you tell I haven't been in TV for awhile...?! :o )
I really should keep more up-to-date on specs like this; things like this used to never get by me.....After 34 years in broadcasting - from tuning transmitters to cleaning toilets - there are SOME aspects of the "game" I don't miss all that much.....like pounding up and down mountains in the middle of the night in the dead of Winter to reset a breaker or switch over a propane tank on a generator.... :(
Thanks again for the info!

I was watching to AVs game on adelphia tonight. They did their usual highlighting of HD coverage for the game which makes me sad everytime I see it. However, tonight when they were listing the stations that receive the HD version of altitude they included adelphia channel 703 in the Springs as well. I don't have cable. Did anyone see the game in high def tonight?

I thought HD programs are 16x9 not 4x3. The reason I ask is because Frosty The Snowman was on the other night. CBS stated it was being presented in HD. I recorded it on my HDTivo and when I played it back it is 4x3. Is this another screw up by KKTV (Rudolph was suppose to be in HD and it was 4x3 as well)? KKTV seems to screw up the HD programing so often that it would not surprise me the least. Also, there is no Doly Digital with Frosty. Something else KKTV screws up often.

KKTV didn't screw up. Since it's an old show, it had to be 4:3 HD and no DD 5.1. See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=601880

Now ESPN's sound on the Broncos game without 5.1 was sad. Stupid "CircleSurround"... Not sure there was anything for the subwoofer to do...

I was reading about HD LIL in Atlanta and was wondering what the options are to getting locals in HD here in Colorado Springs via satellite?

I was reading about HD LIL in Atlanta and was wondering what the options are to getting locals in HD here in Colorado Springs via satellite?
For D* think 2007. I don't know where E* is currently at. Sorry! Now, you could 'move' to Denver, they should have HD LIL early next year.
....jc

Yeah, DirecTV needs to get their 2nd satellite for HD LIL going to provide it to the rest of the markets like COS, in 2007. But they will only provide the local stations so the best it could be is exactly what we get with an antenna OTA, possibly more compressed. So we still need KRDO, KOAA and KTSC to get it together anyway, and it's worth the time to get a good antenna situation set up at home (unless you live in an area of terrible reception).

Good news, the remaining Broncos games - regular season and playoffs - will all be produced in HD. Notice I didn't say will be received in HD - that depends on KRDO's timeline.

The KRDO situation is not a problem anyway, because they will not be covering any Broncos games. They will however cover the Super Bowl. :)

~Josh

The KRDO situation is not a problem anyway, because they will not be covering any Broncos games. They will however cover the Super Bowl. :)

~Josh
I thought ABC usually had 1 AFC and 1 NFC wild card vs. worst division winner game the first weekend of the playoffs... Broncos aren't a lock for top 2 AFC division winner slots yet...

I'm sorry is Altitude HD in Colorado Springs old news? You'd think that people would be excited to get another HD channel with lots of good HD content, yet no one has even responded to my post. I'd really like to verify that altitude HD is indeed available on adelphia channel 703. Here's a link to a list of stations that carry altitude HD.

http://www.altitude.tv/HD/Channels.aspx

Yeah, where are the cable people? Altitude-HD would make me jealous...

[QUOTE=ryttingm]You'd think that people would be excited to get another HD channel with lots of good HD content, yet no one has even responded to my post.QUOTE]

I would like to have it, but for me personally I can't get excited about it unless its in HD "and" I can TIVO it. So that means I'm stuck with D* as I'm not aware of anything available for cable that records in HD yet. From what I've heard by the time there an HDDVR available for cable that D* should be up and running with all the local and additional HD channels they are adding from their new satellite.

I'm sorry is Altitude HD in Colorado Springs old news? You'd think that people would be excited to get another HD channel with lots of good HD content, yet no one has even responded to my post. I'd really like to verify that altitude HD is indeed available on adelphia channel 703. Here's a link to a list of stations that carry altitude HD.

http://www.altitude.tv/HD/Channels.aspx

I haven't had the Adelphia HD package for about a year now, when they started charging extra for it, so I couldn't confirm one way or another. However, when I did have it, 703 was inHD2; they would show the occasional hockey game in HD. Unfortunately, because of the lockout, they were all "reruns". As I recall, Altitude claimed then that they were on Adelphia in HD too, but I wouldn't of called it that way.

--Eric

So that means I'm stuck with D* as I'm not aware of anything available for cable that records in HD yet.

There are options for recording HD on cable. One that works pretty well is to use the 1394 port on your STB and record to a PC. It isn't a small issue to get setup, but once you've gotten that far, actually using it is easy.

There is also the MyHD 130 card which is QAM capable. It is a lot easier to setup and has a nice STB-Like GUI with remote. The down side is it will only tune non-encrypted QAM channels, so premium content is likely unattainable with that option.

--Eric

The MOXI DVR provided by Adelphia records HD content.

I have considered *moving* to Denver...my wife likes Denver news (especially channel 4, which she grew up with) more than CoS local news...I could still get local news coverage via OTA broadcast.

But, to clarify, I would need to be on D* to get the Denver HD LIL, right?

But, to clarify, I would need to be on D* to get the Denver HD LIL, right?
Supposedly, D* will be first, in a few months. That's not to say that E* won't enter the picture too.

If you already have D* and their HD programming, then by moving to Denver, you should be able to get a 'swap out' relatively cheaply.
....jc

I haven't had the Adelphia HD package for about a year now, when they started charging extra for it, so I couldn't confirm one way or another. However, when I did have it, 703 was inHD2; they would show the occasional hockey game in HD. Unfortunately, because of the lockout, they were all "reruns". As I recall, Altitude claimed then that they were on Adelphia in HD too, but I wouldn't of called it that way.

--Eric

According the the cannel lineup on adelphia channels 701 and 702 are inHD1 and inHD2. It is also not clear if you need the HD Plus Tier to get channel 703. Perhaps all you need is to get Altitude SD. The next home game for either the nuggets or the avs is at 7pm tomorrow night. Might be a good time to check it out. According to my friend who just got the adelphia HD package channel 703 is used for HD special events like boxing and such. I assume that it will only be active as Altitude HD during HD broadcasts.

Also, as previously stated, the motorolla BMC9012 aka "The Moxi" is available for adelphia which can record HD content. The only downside is the limiting 80GB hard drive on the box. I think that once CableCard TIVO or MCE is available I may be kissing D* goodbye. I just can't see D* getting altitude HD anytime soon. Maybe 2007. I also like the selection of DVR's you can choose when CableCard finally arrives. One of the huge benefits of D*, IMO, was the selection of STBs available to the consumer. It always meant that D*'s STBs and DVRs were much superior to DISH. With D* moving to a single in house platform, the lack of competition will make the STBs languish. Sure I understand the support nightmare associated with so many STBs, and I can see why D* would want to bring it all in house. However, the lack of selection will be the downfall for those of us who like choice and want specific features. With CableCard TIVO, MCE, ReplayTV, MythTV, BeyondTV, just about anyone can make an STB/DVR. With all the choices with CableCard you're bound to find a solution that fits your needs.

Some info on KOAA I ran across today...

Since I cannot post links I will cut and paste what I read on a blog today that is written by Andy W at the Gazette.

Late breaking update on high definition. Just talked with KOAA/Channels 5&30 GM Dave Whitaker about the station's jump to high definition. He says it's not looking good to have it done in time for the Olympics.

"We're already a week behind," he said. "We really, really, really want it, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen."

KOAA has the equipment in hand, but needs a break in our string of sub-zero temperatures to pour concrete (apparently Monday's balmy temperatures aren't enough). On the plus side, Whitaker said once KOAA gets its HD transmitter up and running, they'll have the most powerful signal in the whole state.

The blog is (in non link terms) springstvtalk blogspot com

Too bad about the olympics...

Susan

Wow. February could be a downer month for all HD non-New Yorkers in Colorado Springs - with the HD Superbowl on ABC on Feb. 5 and the HD Olympics on NBC. But sounds like when KOAA gets going, it will be great.

Stupid FCC delay... How many years did it take those bureaucrats to approve KOAA's HD permit?

Other good news from Andy's blog:


Adelphia is now airing some of Altitude Sports' Nuggets and Avalanche games in high definition. It's on Channel 703, if you subscribe to Adelphia's HD package. The first HD broadcast was Saturday's Avs-Nuggets matchup.

I'm not a huge hockey fan, but if there's one sport that benefits most from high definition, hockey's it. The difference is huuuge. It's like when Fox introduced the glowing puck a few years ago. Except, you know, not entirely stupid. Football in HD ain't too shabby, either.

Speaking of HD, KOAA/Channels 5&30 and KRDO/Channel 13 are both supposed to/rumored to be/working toward getting their HD broadcasts up in the next month or so (KKTV/Channel 11 and KXRM/Channel 21 are both already broadcasting in HD). Whether that means we'll be getting the Super Bowl and the Olympics in high def, it's too soon to say.

We'll have more in the Gazette when they give us firm dates, but if you're looking for a ridiculously expensive last-minute Christmas gift, this may be a good time to spring for the plasma screen.

Maybe good news about KRDO?

I'm wondering when the "Avs-Nuggets" matchup was?? Would that be on ice or on hardwood? :D

Late breaking update on high definition. Just talked with KOAA/Channels 5&30 GM Dave Whitaker about the station's jump to high definition. He says it's not looking good to have it done in time for the Olympics.

"We're already a week behind," he said. "We really, really, really want it, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen."
Read this statement for what it is: BS! Delays save them $$$.
KOAA has the equipment in hand, but needs a break in our string of sub-zero temperatures to pour concrete (apparently Monday's balmy temperatures aren't enough). On the plus side, Whitaker said once KOAA gets its HD transmitter up and running, they'll have the most powerful signal in the whole state.
And, what are the temps on top of Cheyenne Mtn? More BS. The 'powerful signal' BS, would be until other stations in the state go full power.

You can pour concrete when it's cold, but you can't pour concrete on frozen ground. Are they making an effort to keep the foundation grade warm? You decide.
....jc

...Stupid FCC delay... How many years did it take those bureaucrats to approve KOAA's HD permit?
Clue: It's not the FCC that is causing the KOAA delay.
....jc

Bummer for COS on the delays. That does it for me, I'm "moving".

I mean, I actually moving, not "moving." We're shipping out to DFW next week.

I've been hanging out here for about a year reading the Colorado Springs news but my time here is about up. Not looking forward to the move, but there is one upside.....lots of HD in DFW.

Best of luck to everyone on the COS thread. Hope somebody comes through for you sooner than later.

Redbird.....outta here soon

Stupid FCC delay... How many years did it take those bureaucrats to approve KOAA's HD permit?
To further my point: The original FCC construction permit was granted on November 12, 2004! :eek:
....jc

"Sub Zero temps", give me a break. Why didn't they pour the concrete in July. It's not like "it's cold in December" is a big surprise for anyone in COS.

Ya just know that KRDO and KOAA will go HD, once the TV season is over.

Even though it's a repeat, I'm getting Lost in HD OTA! My DirecTV receiver says it's 1080i... Super Bowl party at my house!

Even though it's a repeat, I'm getting Lost in HD OTA! My DirecTV receiver says it's 1080i... Super Bowl party at my house!

Are you sure about that? My receiver still shows KRDO as 480i and is shown in 4:3 aspect ratio.

Are you sure about that? My receiver still shows KRDO as 480i and is shown in 4:3 aspect ratio.

OK - So my wife switched it to Criminal Minds or whatever on CBS, and I had her switch it back after getting your message...480i, 4x3. :confused:

I promise I'm not a total moron...The receiver has the "dots" right next to the resolution it's coming in, and I have a 16x9 screen that was full. I display shows in "Native" format, so I promise I can tell the difference between "almost square" and rectangular.. My wife saw it too, but she didn't think it was as big of a deal.

:mad:

In thinking about it, I wonder if the receive is/was just slow or retarded. Maybe I'm slow and retarded? :D But seriously, I thought ABC was supposed to be 720p anyway (like ESPN). Can anyone confirm or deny this?

I'm very sorry for getting anyone's hopes up. Here's hoping it comes back sooner rather than later.

My wife saw it too, but she didn't think it was as big of a deal.
:mad:
Sorry to hear that! :p

Maybe you can make it up to her on Christmas! :)
....jc

I had my receiver glitched once, when it should of been showing 1080i, it was stuck on 480i, and switching the channel and back to it fixed it. Maybe it was something like that or they did a brief test. ABC HD is 720p and NBC HD is 1080i, not sure about PBS.

I would just like to confirm that Adelphia channel 703 did show Altitude HD for Thursdays Avalanche game and the Nuggets games on Wed and Fri. It's nice to see hockey in HD.

Hmmm... cable HD gets more interesting (to me)... Now if someone could just figure out how to add Adelphia HD with HD-DVR only to an existing Powerlink customer like me, say for an extra $10/month instead of an extra $55 or whatever... so I'm not duplicating the DirecTV bill. Can't leave DirecTV yet...

Anyone know if the Moxi has an RGB-HD output? I'm out of inputs on my dinosaur RPTV...

My sister has a moxi box with charter cable in reno. The interface is actually pretty nice. The biggest downside is the small hardrive (80GB). My sister actually records all of her programs in SD because she can only record 10 hours or so of high definition programming. If you could get more capacity in that box I'd switch to cable in an instant. However, I think that we'll need to wait for CableCard Tivo or MCE to get the capacity needed for high def recording

My parents just moved to the Springs. They live a little north of town off Baptist Road. Would they have any chance of receiving Denver locals OTA from their location? Thanks in advance for any help.

no

Yeah, sorry, the Denver locals are too weak and too far, but they should be able to receive the Colorado Springs ones just fine, such as they are. Hopefully all of the big 4 will be fully HD in 2, 3, 4 months.

My parents just moved to the Springs. They live a little north of town off Baptist Road. Would they have any chance of receiving Denver locals OTA from their location? Thanks in advance for any help.

Maybe. I'm located east of Baptist Road by several miles, and maybe a mile or two farther north, and I can get all the Denver analog locals as well as KWGN-DT (34 - WB) and KDVR-DT (32 - Fox). No chance for the low power downtown DTV transmitters, though (CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS).

I am quite close to the top of the Palmer Divide, which will probably block the signal to your parent's location, but you never know until you try.

Thanks for the info guys. Happy New Year to you all!

My parents just moved to the Springs. They live a little north of town off Baptist Road. Would they have any chance of receiving Denver locals OTA from their location? Thanks in advance for any help.

FYI, I live in FoxRun off Baptist Rd and I cannot receive any Denver OTA signals, only COS.

Is there a way to tune in Altitude HD with standard adelphia service?

Is there a way to tune in Altitude HD with standard adelphia service?

It depends on if they're scrambling it. I have adelphia basic cable, and with a STB that can tune clear QAM (unscrambled), I can get ESPNHD, DiscoveryHD, CBS HD and FOX HD (as well as the ABC and PBS standard def digital signals). Other of their HD channels are scrambled, like the inHD ones, so you need their HD service to get those. I'm not sure whether the new Altitude HD is in the clear. I'll have to see if I can tune it in sometime when they have a game scheduled.

Anyone know if the Moxi has an RGB-HD output? I'm out of inputs on my dinosaur RPTV...


The Moxi that I have has the following outputs:
Component (handles SD & HD channels)
DVI (only works on HD channels, (don't get me started))
S-Video
Composite
1394/Firewire (only on certain models of Moxi. I had to specifically request this and it was a hassle since most people at Adelphia don't know what 1394 is.)

Cheers,
Jason

To Koaa And Krdo..... Hd Now !!!!

To Koaa And Krdo..... Hd Now !!!!
Someone that can receive these stations please verify!

If, true, how ironic that a day after the last MNF on ABC, it goes HD! :mad:

Again, please verify!
....jc

Someone that can receive these stations please verify!

If, true, how ironic that a day after the last MNF on ABC, it goes HD! :mad:

Again, please verify!
....jcIt's a demand, not a statement.

HD NOW!!

The Moxi that I have has the following outputs:
Component (handles SD & HD channels)
DVI (only works on HD channels, (don't get me started))
S-Video
Composite
1394/Firewire (only on certain models of Moxi. I had to specifically request this and it was a hassle since most people at Adelphia don't know what 1394 is.)

Cheers,
Jason
Wow, thanks, I didn't think much was happening on the Firewire front. That is an input on my Mits RPTV that has never been touched. I'm going to have to ask Adelphia for the incentive deal of the century and see if I'm willing to double up on TV providers at least through the end of Nuggets season.

The Moxi that I have has the following outputs:

1394/Firewire (only on certain models of Moxi. I had to specifically request this and it was a hassle since most people at Adelphia don't know what 1394 is.)

Cheers,
Jason
Jason, can you give me the model number of the Moxi(s) that have 1394 output? Thanks in advance.

It depends on if they're scrambling it. I have adelphia basic cable, and with a STB that can tune clear QAM (unscrambled), I can get ESPNHD, DiscoveryHD, CBS HD and FOX HD (as well as the ABC and PBS standard def digital signals). Other of their HD channels are scrambled, like the inHD ones, so you need their HD service to get those. I'm not sure whether the new Altitude HD is in the clear. I'll have to see if I can tune it in sometime when they have a game scheduled.

Checking for tonight's Avalanche game on Altitude HD, I can pick it up with a clear QAM tuner on channel 112-2.

Wow, thanks, I didn't think much was happening on the Firewire front. That is an input on my Mits RPTV that has never been touched. I'm going to have to ask Adelphia for the incentive deal of the century and see if I'm willing to double up on TV providers at least through the end of Nuggets season.

FYI, the 1394 port only outputs video, which does NOT include the Moxi on screen menu info. If you hook Moxi directly to a TV via 1394 you would want still have another connection in order to see the Moxi menus.

Jason

Jason, can you give me the model number of the Moxi(s) that have 1394 output? Thanks in advance.

BMC9012F

I don't know if the model number differentiates between whether the Moxi has 1394 or not. You should be sure to ask that the box has it specifically.

Regards,
Jason

FYI, the 1394 port only outputs video, which does NOT include the Moxi on screen menu info. If you hook Moxi directly to a TV via 1394 you would want still have another connection in order to see the Moxi menus.

Jason
That is nuts. So you can't tell which channel you're on or which program you're choosing to watch unless you switch inputs (in my case to composite, probably) every time.

That is nuts. So you can't tell which channel you're on or which program you're choosing to watch unless you switch inputs (in my case to composite, probably) every time.

That's correct. Realistically, in my opinion, the 1394 port is only good for recording HD to DVHS and possibly HTPC. Adelphia claims it will not let you record to a HTPC due to the lack of 5C support, however I have not tried this.

That's correct. Realistically, in my opinion, the 1394 port is only good for recording HD to DVHS and possibly HTPC. Adelphia claims it will not let you record to a HTPC due to the lack of 5C support, however I have not tried this.

Unless something has changed, you will be able to record some channels with a HTPC. Not every channel is 5C protected. All of the analog channels are available as are a number of "non-premium" digital channels. What exactly constitutes "non-premium" is not clearly defined though. I believe I read (on this thread?) that DiscoveryHD was available in the clear and that is one channel you might expect to be a "premium" channel.

--Eric

OK, I don't want to cry wolf here, but my TV just labeled the KRDO feed as "HD". It has ALWAYS been "SD" before today...anyone else verify this? They are running Fraiser (sp) re-runs, so I guess we'll wait for a bowl game to verify...

Fingers crossed...

mj

Hmmm... could it be "HD" as in when Adelphia says they carry it in "HD", or could it truly be HD?

"Snow Dogs" is on at 7 and is supposed to be in HD....we'll see...

HOLY CRAP! Mine says 720p for KRDO! Just in time for LOST on the 11th!

Wow, unbelievable. I tuned to the golf thing about 20 minutes ago and it looked weird, slightly stretched vertically and horizontally from 4:3 but not close to 16:9 (not that this was produced in HD) - I knew they were messing with something... Of course, it may be a few weeks before they get everything working perfectly. They may salvage the Superbowl on February 5!

We may have to go review old posts and see what Frank and TotallyPreWired have said about KRDO going HD -- I'm sure they have to eat their hat or eat their shorts or something... :D

Checking for tonight's Avalanche game on Altitude HD, I can pick it up with a clear QAM tuner on channel 112-2.

Thanks, I'm getting it there now as well!

We may have to go review old posts and see what Frank and TotallyPreWired have said about KRDO going HD -- I'm sure they have to eat their hat or eat their shorts or something... :D
We'll see! :p But, since they've had an FCC permit since 11/04, it's obvious that they aren't in any hurry. So, how is what's being reported any different than what they've been broadcasting before? Doesn't matter much to me, KRDO is a non issue up here.

In other news KTVD UPN just started broadcasting on 19.1 in Denver this week. Not HD yet, but it's another possibility! :D
....jc

If you look at news and such you can see that there actually chopping the picture off from the top and bottom. I bet there trying to rush it to be ready for the bowl games this week.

They may have an HD signal on the air in time for a few college bowl games too.

We may have to go review old posts and see what Frank and TotallyPreWired have said about KRDO going HD -- I'm sure they have to eat their hat or eat their shorts or something...

Me eat Skivies?!? NEVER!!!

I was surprised they would work extra on New Years Eve on this, but maybe they are focused towards the bowl games. Have to go check out the prime time programming now that I got home...thought there would be some posts on it already

Might have to change my tagline...when it's definite

Well, you don't have to eat anything yet. Snow Dogs is HD on the network but not on KRDO. By the way , "Rockin New Years Eve" is also in HD on the network. I'm not sure I want to see Dick Clark in HD.

Roy

Is KRDO still in 720p?

Yes.

Roy

Not sure what I'm seeing on KRDO, but its not HD, yet. Maybe its some sort of upconvert?

Right, it's not HD source, just apparently upconverted

Happy New Year folks!!

May 2006 bring lots of good times for everyone, and of course, a total of 5 network HD channels to Colorado Springs!

I am having a difficult time receiving KRDO and KTSC. Are they broadcasting weak or intermittent signals?

I had them both when I first installed my HUGE 32 element antenna after 3 other antennas did not work, then I lost them both, then got 8 back for no apparent reason. Now I cannot get channel 13.... at all.

Anyone help here? I am on the backside of a hill with houses between my antenna and Cheyenne Mountain, located close to Rangewood & Dublin.

I see alot of other chatter not regarding Colorado Springs HDTV, so I hope I am posting in the right place.

Thanks!

yaz96

Okay...here's a thought/question...
If adelphia can broadcast a Nuggets/Avs game thats on Altitude in HD on channel 703...then why can't they give us the HD signals from another ABC and NBC market on the other channels that aren't being used?

Answer is simple. KRDO and KOAA would have to give permission which they would never do because fewer people would see their local commercials. It is all about money.

Roy

I am having a difficult time receiving KRDO and KTSC. Are they broadcasting weak or intermittent signals?

I had them both when I first installed my HUGE 32 element antenna after 3 other antennas did not work, then I lost them both, then got 8 back for no apparent reason. Now I cannot get channel 13.... at all.

Anyone help here? I am on the backside of a hill with houses between my antenna and Cheyenne Mountain, located close to Rangewood & Dublin.

I see alot of other chatter not regarding Colorado Springs HDTV, so I hope I am posting in the right place.

Thanks!

yaz96
I don't tune into them very often since there's no HD to see. Interesting that KRDO is still on zoomed 4:3, cutting off top and bottom, at the moment.

I haven't had much trouble receiving their signals since KRDO went full power. I am up in Gleneagle and have 1 house directly in the way as well.

Tonight's signal strength on my HD-TiVo (of course, signal strength readings don't compare well between different hardware):
71 KRDO 13-1
61 KTSC 8-1
85 KKTV 11-1
75 KXRM 21-1

P.S. I think this thread stays on the topic of COS HDTV 99% of the time, whether OTA, cable or satellite. Welcome to the forum.

I don't beleive my eyes....watching KRDO in HD for the Rose Bowl parade. Someone pinch me or at least write back if I am dreaming

your dreaming, go back to sleep.




Ok, Yep its HD TV. and I feel good. Two more channels to go.

Thanks for the heads up, Eichenberg! That's why I love this forum.

UNbelievable. They know how to make a splash and when to make the switch. I'm going to email Andy from the Gazette to make sure he knows. Hopefully he'll put something in the paper to announce it, which will give them credit and encourage a few more COS-ers to make the HD leap.

I think I'll leave JR in KRDO Engineering a voice mail to compliment them on doing it - positive feedback is always good.

Also, I assume that KRDO will work on the Dolby Digital 5.1 feed in the coming weeks - the NY channel has it and KRDO doesn't today. But we'll give them slack on their first day.

P.S. If any of you are fans of the Cotton Bowl, on now, FOX did produce it in HD but KXRM hasn't found it - they seem to be broadcasting from the SD version. I wonder if they don't know that there is an HD feed.

Cool...KRDO in HD!

Hmm... now, what have I been avoiding on ABC that I can now start to tune into...

Let's see...Monday Night Football...no, that's gone forever...Alias...no wait, that just got canceled and only has a few more episodes...we'll have to paste in a list of all the ABC HD shows. I know Good Morning America is supposed to be one as well.

Lots of bowl games anyway, for those that dig college football. I'm more of an NFL guy, but ABC has 2 HD NFL games next weekend.

Cool...KRDO in HD!

Hmm... now, what have I been avoiding on ABC that I can now start to tune into...

First thing that comes to mind would be LOST. I've been watching mainly CBS shows the last 2 years because of the HD availability. This is a great New Year's present.

The Rose parade is in Dolby Digital 2.0, anyone know if they have their 5.1 working yet?

Yes, not very good timing with MNF. I didn't know about Alias being axed. Two programs that did come to mind where Lost and Housewives. Not sure what else ABC has thats worthwhile to watch though.

Bowls games will be good.

Today's a good day, another HD channel to peruse...

First thing that comes to mind would be LOST. I've been watching mainly CBS shows the last 2 years because of the HD availability. This is a great New Year's present.

I agree 100% w/you, I too have been watching a whole lot of CBS and FOX ever since I dropped Dish.

Is it just me or is the PQ actually pretty amazing on KRDO? I'm loving it, especially since Lost is my favorite show and I was used to watching it in HD until I moved here from LA back in September!

Now what are the chances we'll have NBC in HD in time for the Olympics?

Is it just me or is the PQ actually pretty amazing on KRDO?

I was just commenting to my daughter that the signal looks very good, better than FOX, yet, further evaluation is required against CBS.

I had ABC on from last night watching Desperate Housewives and couldn't believe my eyes this morning when I turned on the Rose Parade. I thought it was ESPN HD at first. I started bawling and my husband thinks I'm crazy. (Well, I'm almost 9 months pregnant, but still.) :D

I cannot wait for the new Lost and the rest of the Alias season, not to mention Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy.

-Kelly

Answer is simple. KRDO and KOAA would have to give permission which they would never do because fewer people would see their local commercials. It is all about money.

Roy

but...they can always insert their commercials into the slots.............ahh..crap...who we kidding...ain't never gonna happen anyways :mad:

also, KRDO looks like crap....what did they do, stretch it or something?
Also, anybody noticed a difference in Picture quality when watching any of the local HD programs over the air rather than through the adelphia box?

also, KRDO looks like crap....what did they do, stretch it or something?

Are you reading any of the posts above??? Tune in and have another look...

Now that KRDO is broadcasting HD, I think the picture looks great. Prior to Monday morning it was crap but no longer. I can not distinguish any difference between OTA and Adelphia HD DVR image quality.

Now that KRDO is broadcasting HD, I think the picture looks great. Prior to Monday morning it was crap but no longer. I can not distinguish any difference between OTA and Adelphia HD DVR image quality.

It's especially amazing given how poor their SD picture has been.

I started bawling and my husband thinks I'm crazy. (Well, I'm almost 9 months pregnant, but still.) :D
That is too funny. I can't get my wife to care about HD.

You know what I find hilarious, even abit disturbing? Now that KOAA is the last of the big four to broadcast in HD, they continue to advertise themselves as the Technology Leader for Southern Colorado. What a joke, we need to somehow let them know that they are in fact the technology laggards...

That is too funny. I can't get my wife to care about HD.

Well, having an electrical engineering degree might help. :) But my husband has two EE degrees and doesn't share my enthusiasm, so who knows....

Are you reading any of the posts above??? Tune in and have another look...

yeah yeah I missed something..... ;) sheesh...sorry...
and realized when I turned on ABC the other it was an SD program.....was surfing just now and WHOA!!! :eek: looky there....ABC IN HD!!!

I don't beleive my eyes....watching KRDO in HD for the Rose Bowl parade. Someone pinch me or at least write back if I am dreaming

Looks very good here. Oddness on my HdTiVo. I am getting signal strength of 71 on one OTA tuner but only around 35 on the second tuner. I am getting lots of breakup with occational stretches of a beautiful picture.

--Ron

Hmmmmm, guess I can start watching LOST again...What did I miss?:p

George Lopez, and Freddie on Wednesdays is pretty good. I will have to surf now for more HD.

Here is a list of abc shows and specials (not necessarily in HD): http://abc.go.com/allshows.html

and hoping for KOAA to go high def I don't see anything great in their tv line up besides Jay Leno, future NFL games, and maybe movies if they show any.

Wow...KRDO FINALLY in HD. And what a BEAUTIFUL picture. It's about time!!

Now when is KOAA supposed to go HD (or even digital for that matter)?

http://www.koaa.com/info/

KOAA and HDTV - Updated 11-14-05
On November 12 th 2004, the FCC granted KOAA their Construction Permit (CP) for Digital Television (DTV) KOAA-DT. KOAA has purchased the associated digital transmitter equipment from the manufacturer, the installation of some of the equipment is in progress. The construction process of the transmitter building has begun as well. The estimated time of building completion is December 2005, after which the installation of the previously purchased equipment can be installed weather permitting. The on air date of KOAA-DT is tentatively scheduled for February 1, 2006. Programming will be all “standard definition” digital and will have 4 hours of High Definition in prime time hours, as well as a few programs during the daytime schedule when it is available. The format (4X3 vs. 16X9) will depend on the supplier of the programs, our NBC HDTV should always be in 1080i. For more information on HDTV in general go to the Advanced Television web site.
I'm sure they'll fall behind this a little, but it still sounds like not too long.

My favorites would be Leno, Olympics, ER. Come to think of it, I only stopped watching ER when I got HDTV and Colorado Springs didn't.

Awesome...I really hope they can make the switch before the Olympics. Analog channels look so poor on my TV (partially due to the poor job the MOXI DVR does) that I can't (and don't) even watch them anymore.

love how they turn it on right after MNF. but hey we have it now which is a good thing. wanna watch the broncos in HD when they win the superbowl!!

I cannot wait for the new Lost and the rest of the Alias season, not to mention Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy.

-Kelly


Hope you'll enjoy them in SD. Their TV broadcast said this morning that they will be broadcasting "some/most live events in HD" but will not be broadcasting any delayed programming at this time. Gotta love 'em. :D

Hello! That's a significant announcement as all our prime-time shows would be considered delayed 1 hour from the East Coast feeds. Oh well, we'd better keep the NY feeds.

I remember that one of their few e-mail responses posted earlier in this thread said that they would start out with live events. Delaying HD material requires a server that is the commercial equivalent of a TIVO but much more sophisticated and expensive.

I don't know if anyone remembers where in this thread that post is.

When and how did they make the announcement?

Good morning america is not in HD on KRDO this morning.

Roy

Well, back down to earth in So. Colorado...

If this is true, that stinks big time.

Suck-ola... I couldn't care less about live sports events.

%&$# dammit. I remember now Joe Reed stating something to that effect in his e-mail reply late last fall. Grr... Sigh... Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.


Hope you'll enjoy them in SD. Their TV broadcast said this morning that they will be broadcasting "some/most live events in HD" but will not be broadcasting any delayed programming at this time. Gotta love 'em. :D

Well I guess I'm boycotting KRDO again....who's with me? :mad:

I'm not sure it could be classified as boycotting, but, I will not be viewing any KRDO programming broadcast in SD originating as HD material.

Close enough! Anyone else. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Wow this thread turned quickly. What happened to "they're not going to give us the superbowl" and "they don't want to spend the money"? :) We do have to admit, we have a lot more from them today than we did on Saturday. And if they put in one expensive box in January and another one in February, hypothetically, is that so terrible? They're probably technically in testing mode right now anyway.

Whatever happened to Vaggeto the sports nut? You'd think he'd have posted in the last few months.

From http://springstvtalk.blogspot.com/ :

UPDATE: Just talked to Joe Reed, KRDO's chief engineer. He confirmed it's just going to be live events for the time being. That means yes to the Super Bowl, no to "Lost." A big step in the right direction, anyway.

UPDATED UPDATE: Just talked to Neil Klockziem, KRDO's general manager. He said the HD equipment arrived at the last minute and crews installed it on Saturday. The station is waiting for the equipment needed to rebroadcast primetime programming that's delayed for the Mountain time zone. Klockziem said the station should have that capability soon.

Gotta give them credit - it arrived at the last minute and they installed it on Saturday, New Year's Eve so that we could see the Rose Parade and the BCS games in HD...

(What's happening to me, am I turning soft or something?)

(What's happening to me, am I turning soft or something?) Yes, and your getting shorter too!! By the way, Whats wrong with a good ol' fashioned boycott? :D

Hey, actually I'm getting shorter just because I'm getting old!

Plus, I can't boycott every company that doesn't spend a couple hundred grand on me, the list would be too long :D

From [url]Gotta give them credit - it arrived at the last minute and they installed it on Saturday, New Year's Eve so that we could see the Rose Parade and the BCS games in HD...
Which could be rewritten as:

We wanted to delay the purchase until the last minute. What was important was to get the equipment into service in 2005(tax purposes). Don't expect much more from us, we don't have to provide HD programming to you. We are being generous, and don't you forget it!
....jc

Too bad about the "non-live" events not showing in HD. My concern is the signal strength. Over the last two days, I've been loving the BCS games in HD splendor.

I turn it on tonight for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game, and "Searching for Signal..." The signal from my DirecTV H10 is as follows:
> 8-1: 93%
> 11-1: 93%
> 13-1: 30%
> 21-1: 77%

If I have trouble with just one channel, could I change the antenna orientation? I'd consider tweaking it myself if it wasn't near my rooftop. I live in Monument, and my antenna has an unobstructed view.

Has anyone else experienced such fluctuations in signal strength?

I also live in Monument area (Woodmoor) and I'm getting a very strong signal on my TV right now. My antenna is in the attic and I had to put a 10db pre-amp on the antenna to get a stable signal. I haven't had any noticeable fluctuations on the signal for any of the digital OTA signals for a while now.

I live near Monument, off of Baptist Rd. (in the trees above GlenEagle) and I get the following reception:

8-1.......PBS/KTSC.....26.....85
11-1.....CBS/KKTV.....10.....90
13-1.....ABC/KRDO.....24....88
21-1.....FOX/KXRM.....22.....85

During testing, I would get KRDO in the 13-19 range before they went full strength.
I have an outdoor OTA (DB4, antennas direct) and a 10 db indoor pre-amp.

Thanks rmassey (and rajkej). I live in Jackson Creek, so very close to you in Gleneagle. At least it is possible.

Pardon my ignorance, but I do have an amplified antenna. Is there anything I can do to boost this signal?

>>Steve

FYI - next week's Broncos game is on CBS/KKTV, in HD of course, on Saturday at 6 pm.

Whatever happened to Vaggeto the sports nut? You'd think he'd have posted in the last few months.

Sorry about That ^^;

Just have been reading here less. I still read this post occasionally, and definitely checked to see that people had reported KRDO as being HD.

Something I will mention since I'm not seeing it yet... is anyone else getting those glitches in KRDO HD over Adelphia? It's basically breaking up for 1-2 seconds, usually at bad times during todays footballs games, but it also just seems to be random and doesn't need to be during a lot of movement.

Ohhh... and the lack of delayed content stinks. I wish they could run the HD channel concurrent with a feed they receive to keep it all HD, but that won't happen. Hopefully they get that piece in and installed before too long.

And how could I forget! GO BRONCOS! Still rooting for them like crazy and I feel spoiled that when they aren't HD it feels like a letdown rather than a suprise when they are.

Also, has anyone watched any Nuggets games in HD over AltitudeHD on Adelphia in Colorado Springs? I heard it was on but have not seen anything in programming schedule. It is channel 703, correct?

Thanks rmassey (and rajkej). I live in Jackson Creek, so very close to you in Gleneagle. At least it is possible.

Pardon my ignorance, but I do have an amplified antenna. Is there anything I can do to boost this signal?

>>Steve
I think I remember with mine (also in Gleneagle) that slightest turn of the antenna can make a big difference to the signal on some stations... that's the only thing I can think of if you're already amplifying.

Hi everyone. I just wanted to let you know in Pueblo West I get the 3 networks great around 80-90% for power. I do have a roof top antenea. It was great to watch the games yesturday on KRDO!!!

Something I will mention since I'm not seeing it yet... is anyone else getting those glitches in KRDO HD over Adelphia? It's basically breaking up for 1-2 seconds, usually at bad times during todays footballs games, but it also just seems to be random and doesn't need to be during a lot of movement.


I've noticed it with OTA as well. Pretty annoying

Nuggets and Avalanche home games are being shown on Altitude HD on adelphia channel 703. You won't find it on the programming schedule ( I have not seen it there). Away games are still on Altitude but not HD.

I've noticed it with OTA as well. Pretty annoying

Ditto.

Something I will mention since I'm not seeing it yet... is anyone else getting those glitches in KRDO HD over Adelphia? It's basically breaking up for 1-2 seconds?

I noticed it lots yesterday on my DTV TIVO (OTA reception). I didn't see it on my TV with digital receiver setup. I was thinking for a while it was just a TIVO issue but if others saw it on Adelphia then maybe I got lucky and didn't see it on the non-TIVO setup I have.

Could it have something to do with the compression or PIP data?

You would think there should be no compression issues with a 720p signal fitting into the full 19.3Mbps bandwidth... assuming they're not multicasting (god forbid)...

Quick question for those that have "moved" to the east or west coast. When you do this, do you get the non-hd national feeds? Reason being, I have one HD receiver and 3 regular receivers. If I "move", I will need to get the 4 majors networks on my other Dtivos as well....so, just wondering.

Since it's like you live there, you would get the SD locals of that area on all receivers, and none from Colorado, i.e. channels 2, 4, 5, 7 instead of 5, 11, 13, 21, etc. Of course OTA channels are not affected and you still get 8-1, 11-1, 13-1, 21-1 from COS.

As far as I know this method of getting additional HD networks only works through DirecTV.

Tall Guy,

I just was not sure if they are using spot beams for the SD locals for NY/LA...I know they have the disant network E/W channels that are not spot beams, but was not sure. IE, when you look at the channel guide for a LA zip code, you will get the local NBC on Channel 4. However, the distanct network feed for NBCw is channel 383. So, my question is this...is the channel 4 NBC for an LA resident a spot beam...or is it really a virtual channel of channel 383.

I don't want to move, and then only get the big 4 networks on my HD tivo.

I hope this clarifys things a bit.

Thanks,

impilot

NY and LA are not spot beams because they've been used for DNS service all over the US (in the boonies, for example) for years. People in this forum have had success around here with both NY or LA. You will get the SD channels on every receiver, both HD and SD. Other cities, the spot beams apply.

I'm 99% sure that 4 and 383 are the same signal, mapped to different channel numbers.

Then again, the timing of moving seems almost too late to bother ... KRDO and KOAA could both be full-time HD in say 2 months... to each their own.

yeah, I know...I have put up with this for a year now...getting PO'd about the Olympics...as well as only "live HD" on KRDO...

Also, the glitches on KRDO with the pic/sound freezing randomly every couple of minutes is driving me nuts!!!

Sorry about That ^^;

Something I will mention since I'm not seeing it yet... is anyone else getting those glitches in KRDO HD over Adelphia? It's basically breaking up for 1-2 seconds, usually at bad times during todays footballs games, but it also just seems to be random and doesn't need to be during a lot of movement.


I was noticing 'hiccups' on my HDTiVo on KRDO rather than breakups. The picture and sound freeze for 1-2 seconds and continue exactly where they left off, leaving me a bit behind realtime on the HDTiVo. Hopefully, it is the same problems you were noticing...

I went in the attic and adjusted my antenna as well, improving the signal strength for KRDO from 20-30 to 65-75. Solid picture now (other than the hiccups).

--Ron

I was noticing 'hiccups' on my HDTiVo on KRDO rather than breakups. The picture and sound freeze for 1-2 seconds and continue exactly where they left off, leaving me a bit behind realtime on the HDTiVo. Hopefully, it is the same problems you were noticing...

I went in the attic and adjusted my antenna as well, improving the signal strength for KRDO from 20-30 to 65-75. Solid picture now (other than the hiccups).

--Ron

My problem was definitely dropouts, I'd loose 1-2 seconds of audio and the picture would jump as well. My signal strengths for 13-1 were 91/90 on my TIVO. This is with a 10db pre-amp and about 70 ft of cable to the TIVO.

My problem was definitely dropouts, I'd loose 1-2 seconds of audio and the picture would jump as well. My signal strengths for 13-1 were 91/90 on my TIVO. This is with a 10db pre-amp and about 70 ft of cable to the TIVO.

Exactly like mine...signal strength of 89/90, HDTivo. Loss of audio, jumpy picture. If you rewound the tivo, it was definately there in the recorded stream.

Same problem with the hicupping. Very annoying and frustrating!

Same problem with the hicupping. Very annoying and frustrating!

Ditto that here....switched over to the LA channel and it wasn't happening there. I figured it was my antenna since I only get about 70 strength. Guess they are still working out the bugs.

Is KRDO at full power? I'm only getting a signal of 55 down here in Florence. Is their tower on Chy Mtn with all the others? I get 82 on CBS, 65 on FOX and 75 on PBS.

Checking for tonight's Avalanche game on Altitude HD, I can pick it up with a clear QAM tuner on channel 112-2.

I get internet only from adelphia, and I just tried plugging into my TV and was definitely getting the standard channels, but they were all very poor quality. I looked for a physical filter on the coax connections and it looks like there might be something built into the type of jack the installer used. so 2 questions:

1) can anyone confirm that if you are getting internet service that you are still being sent the basic cable too?

2)anyone heard of frequency filters being integrated into coax connectors?

The goal of all of this is to see if I could just buy a QAM tuner and start getting altitude HD for free...

It was announced tonight on "Charlie Chat" that Dish Network will put up a temporary HD channel specifically to carry the Olympics. I hope that means that Dish Network subscribers won't have to worry about whether KOAA begins their HD broadcasts in time.

Roy

Wouldn't that have to require waivers from the local non-O&O affiliates before it could be turned on?

I get internet only from adelphia, and I just tried plugging into my TV and was definitely getting the standard channels, but they were all very poor quality. I looked for a physical filter on the coax connections and it looks like there might be something built into the type of jack the installer used. so 2 questions:

1) can anyone confirm that if you are getting internet service that you are still being sent the basic cable too?

2)anyone heard of frequency filters being integrated into coax connectors?

The goal of all of this is to see if I could just buy a QAM tuner and start getting altitude HD for free...
Sorry, don't know here...

Is KRDO at full power? I'm only getting a signal of 55 down here in Florence. Is their tower on Chy Mtn with all the others? I get 82 on CBS, 65 on FOX and 75 on PBS.
We think it's at full power. Most people in COS get it at the same strength as the others, or close. You could go back a couple weeks and see the more detailed discussion.

Wouldn't that have to require waivers from the local non-O&O affiliates before it could be turned on?
Maybe. That's why I said "I hope".

Roy

I get internet only from adelphia, and I just tried plugging into my TV and was definitely getting the standard channels, but they were all very poor quality. I looked for a physical filter on the coax connections and it looks like there might be something built into the type of jack the installer used. so 2 questions:

1) can anyone confirm that if you are getting internet service that you are still being sent the basic cable too?

2)anyone heard of frequency filters being integrated into coax connectors?

The goal of all of this is to see if I could just buy a QAM tuner and start getting altitude HD for free...

I currently have basic analog cable as well, but when I first tried the QAM tuner, it worked even when I only had a cable modem and they had the frequency filter on my line. The filter was in their box on the street, not integrated into the connectors in my house.

The frequencies they filter out are for the analog basic channels, whereas most of the digital channels are outside of that range. Unfortunately, ESPNHD and DiscoveryHD are at a frequency close enough to the analog ones that the filter they had on my line killed those as well. I only started picking them up once the filter was removed when I added the basic analog cable.

What I would recommend is picking up a tuner that can handle clear QAM from BestBuy or CircuitCity to try it out. That way, you have their easy 30 day return policy if it doesn't work for you.

One small warning is that even though they're not currently scrambling Altitude HD, they could start at any time. When I first got my tuner, all of their HD channels were unscrambled, as well as quite a few of their digital basic ones. Over a few month period they began scrambling more and more. Now there are only a handful that are still unscrambled. This still works for me as I was mainly wanting CBS / Fox for football (and now ABC!) since I have solid rock between me and Cheyenne Mt, so HD OTA is not an option.

Am I the only one who's MOXI box get hosed if I watch commercials on CBS HD (no other channels)? I'm running it in 1080i and it looks great, but if I don't switch channels during the commercials it seems to get confused and it gets horizontal lines running erratically across it that won't go away until I reboot it. Am I alone here? (TV is a Mitsubishi 65809)

We have the same issues with the horizontal streaking.(asked multiple times about it awhile back and I think no one ever took notice so I figured it wasn't common) But we have had our box replaced because of it and the brand new box had the issue, and the installer said it was common and that he had the issue at home on his projector. It used to be much worse but now it is better. I do notice during commercials sometimes on CBS. Also on a 65809.

Wiltron, I don't see that phenomenom happening on my MOXI. I have 1080i and 480i (for SD channels) selected in the setup for the MOXI.

We have the same issues with the horizontal streaking.(asked multiple times about it awhile back and I think no one ever took notice so I figured it wasn't common) But we have had our box replaced because of it and the brand new box had the issue, and the installer said it was common and that he had the issue at home on his projector. It used to be much worse but now it is better. I do notice during commercials sometimes on CBS. Also on a 65809.


I had my box replaced once already, too. Oh well. As long as i change the channel during commercials it works out OK. Just annoying.

RJO - I didn't know I could choose both. If I do, HD will stay in 1080i and the Moxi will output 480i for SD channels? I've been getting worried about burn in on the sides because the MOXI has been send 1080i in 4:3 for SD channels (since some software update) and my TV doesn't allow format modification in HD. I guess i should have just tried it earlier.

Wiltron, yes you can select both formats as the new MOXIs provide native pass through. That is how I have it set and it works fine.

FYI to those thinking of moving:

It appears you can't get altitude if you move. I moved to NYC recently and realized I lost altitude, but signed up for the sports pak which includes all the sports channels in the 600 range. Tonight I went to watch the Nuggets and it is blacked out. I talked to a D* rep and it looks like this will always be the case due to the league pass rules. Weak...

I was psyched for Lost tomorrow, but I might be moving back tonight...

FYI to those thinking of moving:

It appears you can't get altitude if you move. I moved to NYC recently and realized I lost altitude, but signed up for the sports pak which includes all the sports channels in the 600 range. Tonight I went to watch the Nuggets and it is blacked out. I talked to a D* rep and it looks like this will always be the case due to the league pass rules. Weak...

I was psyched for Lost tomorrow, but I might be moving back tonight...
I had mentioned that a couple weeks ago here, since it's a regional network. But if you add NBA League Pass (probably discounted for the remaining partial season), you get all the NBA games across in the country, including the Nuggets.

I just think of it as a fee related to getting ABC-HD and NBC-HD... :D

Wiltron, yes you can select both formats as the new MOXIs provide native pass through. That is how I have it set and it works fine.

Thanks for the info. I would try it now, but an incompetent Sears Service Tech tried to replace my Convergence ICs last night and botched the whole operation. Now, instead of 1 minute of screwed convergence during warm up ... the set is totally out of service.

Since I had it set for 1080i only, I can't get the MOXI to display on a standard set, and therefore can't change the settings. Is there a way for me to get a standard signal out of the box so i can hook it up to a temporary TV?

Thanks for the info. I would try it now, but an incompetent Sears Service Tech tried to replace my Convergence ICs last night and botched the whole operation. Now, instead of 1 minute of screwed convergence during warm up ... the set is totally out of service.

Since I had it set for 1080i only, I can't get the MOXI to display on a standard set, and therefore can't change the settings. Is there a way for me to get a standard signal out of the box so i can hook it up to a temporary TV?

Hmm...not sure how to reset other than the menu. Might try browsing the SPL FAQ (http://users.adelphia.net/~ksoltmann/SPLMoxiFAQ.htm) or post on the MOXI thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=412846).

RMD

Anyone willing to count buton presses for me?

Press Moxi, left, left, left, OK, right, down, OK Moxi.

Kidding. ;)

Since I had it set for 1080i only, I can't get the MOXI to display on a standard set, and therefore can't change the settings. Is there a way for me to get a standard signal out of the box so i can hook it up to a temporary TV?

I think you can hook up an s-video or composite cable to the moxi, since they only support 480i, and you will be able to see your menu's that way. I seem to recall reading that even when you set the box to 1080i only, the menus will still appear on these outputs.

--Eric

I think you can hook up an s-video or composite cable to the moxi, since they only support 480i, and you will be able to see your menu's that way. I seem to recall reading that even when you set the box to 1080i only, the menus will still appear on these outputs.

--Eric


I tried with a composite cable already. No dice. I haven't tried the S-video yet.

I tried with a composite cable already. No dice. I haven't tried the S-video yet.

From the FAQ (never tried it, but it's worth a shot):

Changing the video output resolution directly on the box

This accomplishes the same goal as the Video Output selection in the Settings menu, but it allows you to see the setting on the LED display of the box. This is useful if your TV cannot display the current setting, preventing you from seeing the Moxi Menu. On the front of the box, simultaneously press and hold the Live TV (second from left) and OK (center of the circle) buttons. The LED will show you the current resolution: Sd (480i), 720P, or 1080. You can use the Channel Up/Down arrows on the box (the two right-most buttons) to cycle through the resolutions. When you reach the desired resolution, choose yes on the confirmation dialog. The 480P selection is no longer available under software version 3.2, although it may return in an improved version in a future software release.

You should then verify that the correct resolution(s) is/are checked in the Video Output or HDTV Setup selection in the Settings menu. Otherwise, the Moxi may revert to the old, incorrect setting the next time it is rebooted.

RMD

KOAA changed their info from DT in Feb 1 to sometime in Feb.

KOAA and HDTV - Updated 01-11-06
On November 12 , 2004, the FCC granted KOAA a Construction Permit (CP) for Digital Television (DTV) KOAA-DT. Construction of a transmitter building is underway, after which the installation of equipment can begin. KOAA-DT is now tentatively scheduled to go on the air sometime in February 2006.

Programming will be all “standard definition” digital and will have 4 hours of High Definition in prime time hours, as well as a few programs during the daytime schedule when it is available. The format (4X3 vs. 16X9) will depend on the supplier of the programs, our NBC HDTV should always be in 1080i. For more information on HDTV in general go to the Advanced Television web site.

KOAA changed their info from DT in Feb 1 to sometime in Feb.


That's not a good sign for the Olympics!! :mad:

Rob

From the FAQ (never tried it, but it's worth a shot):

Changing the video output resolution directly on the box

This accomplishes the same goal as the Video Output selection in the Settings menu, but it allows you to see the setting on the LED display of the box. This is useful if your TV cannot display the current setting, preventing you from seeing the Moxi Menu. On the front of the box, simultaneously press and hold the Live TV (second from left) and OK (center of the circle) buttons. The LED will show you the current resolution: Sd (480i), 720P, or 1080. You can use the Channel Up/Down arrows on the box (the two right-most buttons) to cycle through the resolutions. When you reach the desired resolution, choose yes on the confirmation dialog. The 480P selection is no longer available under software version 3.2, although it may return in an improved version in a future software release.

You should then verify that the correct resolution(s) is/are checked in the Video Output or HDTV Setup selection in the Settings menu. Otherwise, the Moxi may revert to the old, incorrect setting the next time it is rebooted.

RMD

Worked like a charm. Thank you.

I was so excited last week to see the football playoffs in HD on ABC. I just couldn't wait for last night to see Lost in HD. NOPE! How can they do this? Are they going to broadcast tv shows in HD soon?

At present they (KRDO) are only broadcasting live events in HD. Apparently they are waiting on more gear before they can broadcast all of their HD programming.

:( Bummer. I hope it's sooner rather than later. It's a tease. :confused: Any possible dates or estimation when they'll broadcast primetime shows in HD? How long of a wait? Another year? :(

At present they (KRDO) are only broadcasting live events in HD. Apparently they are waiting on more gear before they can broadcast all of their HD programming.

I'm gonna take a guess and say that "Hell" and "Snowballs" will be able to be used in the same sentence when it happens. :p

Honestly, no one really knows, except of course the folks at KRDO.

I haven't read this thread in a while so I was excited (and amazed) to see that KRDO finally went HD. Then I read down a few pages and saw that it was only for live events :rolleyes:. Why is it I knew there'd be a catch! Oh well, at least they're doing something I guess.

Hello all, I have a couple of questions that I hope someone will answer.

I just got a new Sony Wega LCD projection and so far it's been great. It found 4 OTA HD channels here in the Springs (8.1, 11.1, 13.1, 21.1). The non-HD signals (from DVD, satellite and OTA SD) look fine, but I'm really VERY impressed with a 720p/1080i source, even more so then when I saw HD in the showroom.

1) Some programs are listed as HD (such as Thursday's "CSI Miami" on KKTV), but the program never showed up as HD. Is this unusual?

2) "Without a Trace" started off in HD but then suddenly "reverted" back to SD. Does this happen often?

3) Is there any reason not to remove the non-HD channels from the channel cycle? In otherwords, always use 11.1, 13.1, etc. and totally bypass 11, 13, etc.?

Thanks for any input.
Logicman (North end of town near Chapel Hills Mall)

Hello all, I have a couple of questions that I hope someone will answer.

...found 4 OTA HD channels here in the Springs (8.1, 11.1, 13.1, 21.1)...

1) Some programs are listed as HD (such as Thursday's "CSI Miami" on KKTV), but the program never showed up as HD. Is this unusual?

2) "Without a Trace" started off in HD but then suddenly "reverted" back to SD. Does this happen often?



Thanks for any input.
Logicman (North end of town near Chapel Hills Mall)


All I can say is welcome to the Springs HD. Plan on being disappointed consistently. KKTV channel 11-1 cannot seem to figure out how to "flip the switch" on HD programming until sometime within the first few seconds/minutes of a show -- most times. It has been known, however (as you have experienced), for them to completely disregard flipping the switch for an entire night of programming. I will allow the others to expand on this and fully detail the likes of the other stations in town. :)

You have reached Mecca. Enjoy! (<<----much sarcasm!!)

CSI Miami last night was sent out in SD for the first two segments of the show (on Adelphia anyway, not sure about OTA), and then when they flipped the switch the audio was all screwed up -- only the effects were being sent out (no center channel, ergo no voices). It was crazy! And sad....

Thanks for the responses ... looks like we're all in for a bumpy ride!

Another question, please tell me that the Broncos/Patriots will be broadcast in HD -- my son and I are so looking forward to it!

Logicman

CSI Miami last night was sent out in SD for the first two segments of the show ... when they flipped the switch the audio was all screwed up -- only the effects were being sent out (no center channel, ergo no voices).

No voices on CSI Miami can actually be a good thing. This show is one case where even an HD presentation cannot draw me in due to terrible dialogue, acting, and storylines.

Beautiful to watch though...

Yeah, KKTV often has problems because they have to flip back and forth between SD commercials and the Mountain-time-delayed HD feed. For a while, I thought it had gotten a lot better, but it's been happening still. I don't mind when it's SD for 5 seconds after a commercial break, but once in a while I'll see Without a Trace is SD for half the show, which is a bummer. Growing pains, and Mountain time zone (where everything has to be recorded from the HD feed for the East Coast, I guess).

KXRM/FOX doesn't have this issue that I know of - maybe something with their splicer setup.

Broncos will definitely be HD baby; we have to give Tom Brady his first playoff loss EVER!

3) Is there any reason not to remove the non-HD channels from the channel cycle? In otherwords, always use 11.1, 13.1, etc. and totally bypass 11, 13, etc.?

If you only output to one HDTV, then yes deleting the SD channels is fine.
In my case I output to other 4:3 TVs in the house and it's better for viewing to just use 8,11,13,21 rahter than the HD versions.

Other reasons would be if you are recording something that's really SD, the SD channels take up less hard drive space by far; or if your TV's scaler is better than your STB's, you could output the 4:3 from SD and let your TV upscale it.

(edit - never mind about #2 - I guess the station is upscaling, not the STB, so the TV station probably has better equipment than we do...)

TallGuy (and everyone else),

I think all of us football fans are going to be disappointed come Saturday night. It doesn't appear that that the Broncos/Patriots game will be HD. Neither TitanTV nor CBS websites show the AFC Divisional Championship as an HD broadcast. I truly hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look promising.

:-(

This site does list it as HD: http://www.hdsportsguide.com/
Roy