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TallGuy
12-12-06, 11:22 PM
Down to 12000 mbit/sec?? Wow.

Interesting to hear the stories about the long vs. short resets - considering my Internet was switched to Comcast on Sunday and at the end of the process I didn't do any unplug routine at all. I had tried 2 short unplug routines during the middle of Sunday, which didn't work - then called Comcast and they said I was on step 1 of 3 and would be converted by 6:00 a.m. Monday. Monday I woke up and I was back online, without a reset... Weird.

RockyMountainD
12-13-06, 09:43 AM
thanks TG.

BTW, I did a 5 min unplug/replug on the CM and I am now back online with DL speeds of 8500+, not quite the blazing speeds some of you report, but it's double what I was getting at about 47/4800 before.

Why-oh-why did my three very lengthy calls to Adelphia/comcast tech support not yield this simple recommendation to cure my downtime. I prob could have been back online on Sunday. I was doing short 30 second reboots with no success. RockyMountainD, thanks for the tip.

BTW, calls to tech supt require no less than THREE times that you get to enter in your 10 digit phone number, and you then get to repeat it to the CSR once they pick up. How stupid is that for a VRU system.

NP. I got lucky with my call I guess. Answered immediately by a guy in St. Louis who handles Adelphia & Comcast HSI issues. Call took about 5 min :)

I'm with ya on the multiple TN entries. I think it's because they're still bouncing COS callers between legacy Adelphia support & Comcast customer service. Most CTI vendors will allow the systems to pass data, but this is probably a temporary setup and they just transfer the call w/no attached data.

RMD

2cats1dog
12-13-06, 03:31 PM
I got a "Welcome to Comcast" message on my upstairs Motorola (non DVR) box this morning, but no other changes yet apparent.

Although on broadband, I got OVER double my fastest ever throughput with Adelphia. I had called them and spent 2 wasted hours with the text chat too and the tech couldn't help my speed out at all. This is very welcome.

http://www.testmy.net/share-U4LGPB1YF (http://testmy.net/stats/id-U4LGPB1YF)

--Kelly

akaSurreal
12-14-06, 02:04 AM
Darn, I thought I was the only one getting these speeds with Comcast! =)

I can actually maintain over 30Mb if I open enough download threads. Using 10 right now and averaging 30-35Mb or about 4MByte/sec. Would love to see this last, but I doubt it. hehe

What I do find surprising is that without having to upgrade any equipment or lines or anything we are able to get these speeds. The news articles I have been reading over the years would have you believe it takes fiber and special equipment to your house to achieve this! I smell a greed-driven conspiracy! =)

2cats1dog
12-14-06, 06:37 PM
The cover of the Gazette announces today's official move to Comcast, although the front page and article on page A9 is lacking many details.

It said customers with a second tier of digital service will begin getting 11 more movie channels from Comcast later this month. Does anyone know what channels they are talking about? I hope this means more HD channels soon.

I noticed the Moxi menu no longer says Adelphia but don't notice any other changes yet. Maybe tomorrow the 15th like someone posted above... ?

Snuffy101
12-14-06, 06:51 PM
Did I miss it, or has anyone else been bugged by the crappy audio put out by KXRM 21.1 when it is a local feed? I get a 2:2 audio, no center channel! It sounds like the L and R channels are out of phase, maybe 180 degrees. Their picture and 5.1 audio from Fox have been great but when they cut to local commercials etc, I can’t get to the mute button fast enough :eek: . Is it my equipment or is someone else getting this?

I forgot to say I get 21.1 OTA.

mrtolles
12-15-06, 11:08 AM
Comcast. I got a msg on my Motorola 6412 HD DVR 2 days ago saying Welcome to Comcast. Nothing else has changed, it still says Adelphia on my menu, no new channels that I have noticed, but I'm really only looking for more HD channels.

Called Comcast this morning and their system is down for the conversion and she was not able to tell me anything, not even account information. The article I read on KRDO.com says to make sure you update your bill pay. Not sure if they are giving us new account numbers or have a different billing address or what, but we all may wanna double check before we send out payments.

RJO
12-15-06, 12:09 PM
Snuffy 101, I noticed the same issue with Fox, KXRM when they go to local broadcast. Very annoying and hard on the ears.

Rmassey
12-15-06, 12:17 PM
So, I'm off today, playing around with a MyHD 130 card... I was sitting here watching 8-1 (OTA) Crossroads G. Fest on PBS, looks great and then wham... Barney in SD replaces Clapton in HD. Kinda sux, hope this is not a bad sign that the testing is over and were back to RMPBS in SD. I also see the 8-1 via Comcast is now MIA.

Anything other than ESPNHD (80-1) available thru comcast without an HD sub? I'm just looking for Clear QAM channels.

2cats1dog
12-15-06, 03:21 PM
I checked around 12:30 and the national PBS HD feed was still on 708 and analog local PBS on 8 here on Comcast.

I didn't see any new HD channels or VOD offerings yet. I was hoping for something new other than the word Adelphia being taken off the Moxi menu. If anyone notices new channels please post!

I guess I'll wait to call Comcast to let them know that 701 (INHD) still shows Altitude guide data 24/7 since their system is down today...

I want my On Demand HD Yule Log. :p

-Kelly

bobandkel
12-16-06, 08:58 AM
Anyone here have a plasma that doesn't buzz? I purchased the "altitude rated" Pioneer 6070 and it has a very annoying buzz. It's going back. Does anyone have or know of one that doesn't?

Regards,

Bob

Rmassey
12-16-06, 11:44 AM
I've heard that NEC makes a good high altitude Plasma, but they are very expensive. I figure why fight it, just get an LCD and avoid the tech that does not work well in our area.

2cats1dog
12-16-06, 12:45 PM
Nope, my plasma that we brought over from Cali has a high frequency hum also. I hope to move in the next year or two though. :)

longrider
12-16-06, 02:03 PM
I stuck with LCD for exactly that reason. A friend of mine works in the industry and he said to stay away from plasma at our altitude.

kbohip
12-16-06, 07:07 PM
So I went to watch Motorweek last night on my HD-Tivo. WHOA!!! What's this? PBS with HD?!?! It wasn't Motorweek but some girly flower show. I'll admit it, I watched it. The whole thing. It was easily the best looking HD I'd ever seen! It was so clear my brain was confused as to why I couldn't smell the flowers they were showing, as I MUST have been outside.;)

Go PBS!

mscoins
12-17-06, 09:23 AM
I stuck with LCD for exactly that reason. A friend of mine works in the industry and he said to stay away from plasma at our altitude.
What brand/model did you choose? Curious because I might be moving back to Woodland Park and hate the thought of giving up my excellent Fujitsu plasma. :( Thanks.

jkozlow3
12-17-06, 11:40 AM
I have a Panasonic that buzzes at 7100 feet (it's rated to 7500 and bought it when living at a much lower elevation). It's not super loud and you can only hear it when the tv is on mute, but it'still noticeable from 10 feet away on mute.

My neighbor has an altitude rated LG that does NOT buzz.

Cap'n Preshoot
12-17-06, 12:17 PM
For anyone who hasn't yet seen this, the article seems to really hit the nail on the head about HD PQ and compression. Great article!

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleid=CA6400524

cdb
12-17-06, 02:31 PM
For anyone who hasn't yet seen this, the article seems to really hit the nail on the head about HD PQ and compression. Great article!

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleid=CA6400524

Thanks for sharing the information about this website. Very interesting... and quite concerning... article.

I agree with other posters that PBS HD has excellent PQ. Good work PBS !!!

longrider
12-17-06, 02:34 PM
What brand/model did you choose? Curious because I might be moving back to Woodland Park and hate the thought of giving up my excellent Fujitsu plasma. :( Thanks.

It is a LG 32LC2D. Small since its in the bedroom but the series is available up to 42" - 42LC2D. The living room is a LCD RP for budgetary reasons :(

TotallyPreWired
12-17-06, 03:56 PM
Thanks for sharing the information about this website. Very interesting... and quite concerning... article.
Concerning? Maybe. All that it shows is that the Cable Co's need to give their 60's technology a kick in the butt. Fiber is the future, and the sooner that they come to that realization the sooner that they can forget about satellite being able to compete.

Think about a Single Mode fiber coming into your home and providing you with 100,000 gigahertz of bandwith! In reality, we don't need anywhere near that much bandwidth, but even low grade fiber has the ability to blow the doors off of copper.

The problem is cost. With literally millions of miles of copper strung everywhere, the change over costs would be large. But the Cable Co's and Phone Companies have the ability to relagate satellite based TV into also ran status.

Cap'n Preshoot
12-17-06, 09:41 PM
The CATV companies, once boastful of their initially 450 Mhz and later 750+ Mhz of forward bandwidth succumbed to market pressure to fill that bandwidth and did so with mostly garbage which now they're stuck with. Just how many "Paid Programming" and shopping channels do we need? The problem is those garbage channels generate revenue and that revenue is what pays the bills. Catch-22?

Cap'n Preshoot
12-17-06, 09:49 PM
Think about a Single Mode fiber coming into your home and providing you with 100,000 gigahertz of bandwith! In reality, we don't need anywhere near that much bandwidth, but even low grade fiber has the ability to blow the doors off of copper.

The problem is cost. With literally millions of miles of copper strung everywhere, the change over costs would be large. But the Cable Co's and Phone Companies have the ability to relagate satellite based TV into also ran status.

Time Warner Cable plowed 48 strands of fiber through all the easements in suburban areas of Houston, TX as long as 8 years ago but apparently hasn't quite figured out what to do with it. They still use digital-to-analog demux equipment to drive analog distribution amplifiers with the last 100 feet from the multi-tap to the subscribers ground block in RG6 quad-shield coax, so we still haven't gained anything.

TallGuy
12-17-06, 11:01 PM
I was thinking about our not having guide data at this point on KTSC PBS HD and how that makes it difficult to catch anything you might want to watch or record. And I realized that all we needed was a PBS affiliate broadcasting the PBS national HD feed on channel 26 in the Mountain time zone. OK, chances were low, but I found that my inner OCD personality wanted to see if it was possible.

So I Googled for some lists of all the digital affiliates in the country, and there is one matching all these characteristics: KBHE PBS 9 from Rapid City, South Dakota. So I set my secondary local market to Rapid City, SD and let the HD-TiVo download some guide data for their channels. Then I went to the Channels setup screen and unchecked all the other channels in that area, and left 9-1 on my channel lists, both Received and Favorites.

When I go to channel 9-1, the receiver tunes in frequency 26, which is actually KTSC's HD OTA signal, but it uses the guide data for 9-1 from Rapid City. So far over the past few days, the programming has been identical so it seems that both stations are broadcasting the national PBS HD slate 100%. This trick will only last as long as both stations show the same thing, but it's great for now.

I recorded a show overnight and the program title was correct, and live guide data is right too... As a bonus, the 9-1 list happens to be in sequence next to where KTSC 8-1 would be. I'm a happy camper with my little hack.

It might work with other satellite receivers if they can set a secondary local market and if they also get all guide data from the satellite... Worth a try, no downside that I can think of...

Rmassey
12-18-06, 06:21 PM
^^^ Brilliant idea TG, I just tried this out on my HR10-250 and it works great. Thanks for sharing :)

BTW, looks like this will also work with a MyHD 130 card using the CW_EPG. I set another zip code in Zap2it and the EPG picks it up, and then I assign it to KTSC. Works just like the HR10-250 secondary market. :)

AndrewW
12-19-06, 04:59 PM
If anyone that ran into problems with the Comcast/Adelphia switchover is reading, Gazette business writer Wayne Heilman is working on a story about some of the problems the transition has caused. Give him a call at 636-0234.

Thanks,
Andy

Merconium
12-20-06, 09:02 AM
Anyone here have a plasma that doesn't buzz? I purchased the "altitude rated" Pioneer 6070 and it has a very annoying buzz. It's going back. Does anyone have or know of one that doesn't?

Regards,

Bob

I have a Panny TH-PHD508UK. You can't hear the buzz beyond 1 foot.

SoCoViewer
12-20-06, 10:28 AM
I have a Panasonic TH-50PX60U and I can't hear a buzz. I read about this problem the other day, so I listened for it on my set, and I couldn't hear it.

radckh
12-20-06, 12:42 PM
Does anyone else have a Season Pass for KOAA's 10pm news?
I have had his for years on the bedroom DirecTiVo and the Family Room HD-TiVo and starting Sunday night, the HD-TiVo is not realizing that there are any upcoming episodes of it, so it's not recording it. Recording is fine on the bedroom SD-TiVo.
I tried deleting the season pass and adding a new one, but it still says there are no upcoming episodes. All my other season passes seem to be working fine. I also tried adding a seasono pass for the 10pm news on 5-1 and no go. I have not tried any other network yet...

Weird & annoying!
Rob

Rmassey
12-20-06, 06:36 PM
Does anyone else have a Season Pass for KOAA's 10pm news?
... it still says there are no upcoming episodes.

that's because all news is just a repeat of what was said the previous hour. Your Tivo is just not recording repeat programming - :D -- Watch the history channel, there is probably more 'new' content there then on KOAA 10 PM news :)

TallGuy
12-20-06, 07:45 PM
Yeah, it probably is an overlapping name problem. But if you just create a repeating Record By Time/Channel for 10:00-10:35 on weekdays or all 7 days, you'll get what you want, and it will say "Manual Recording: KOAA News" if your list.

TallGuy
12-21-06, 10:40 AM
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:21 AM
To: customer_support@ktsc.pbs.org
Subject: HDTV broadcasts

KTSC and Ian-

Just wanted to give you a quick thanks for bringing the HD programming to the Colorado Springs area. Your over-the-air signal is the best in town in terms of picture quality and bandwidth. I hope you will resist the urge to ever start multicasting, as it always waters down the picture quality and makes me turn the channel very quickly.

You made the right choice to use PBS’ national HD feed as it’s most important to send full-time HD programming. Whatever you choose to do in the future, just know that 24 hours a day HDTV is greatly appreciated by a growing number of viewers who are investing in HDTVs. Thanks again.

P.S. If you could get the guide information for this national HD programming and upload it to the various databases that feed DirecTV, etc., that would be very helpful to your viewers. Thanks.

Any others that would want to encourage PBS to stay high quality HD full-time, please send your own email too. This address was listed in the Gazette article last week so the station must be looking for feedback as they weigh the decision to broadcast the national feed's HD shows :) vs. upconverts or whatever else from KTSC's local programming :(.

TallGuy
12-21-06, 11:44 AM
Edit - the email address in the Gazette article bounced back to me... I had to re-send it through the RMPBS web site at http://www.rmpbs.org/contact/index.cfm/to/KTSC%20Customer%20Service/.

cdb
12-21-06, 02:20 PM
Edit - the email address in the Gazette article bounced back to me... I had to re-send it through the RMPBS web site at http://www.rmpbs.org/contact/index.cfm/to/KTSC%20Customer%20Service/.

TallGuy,

An excellent idea.... and an excellent letter. I have improved on your letter and sent it to KTSC. :D I sent it to the first address you tried and got it bounced back, before I read your 2nd post, so I went to their website and sent to both KTSC and the PBS Omsbudsman.

cdb
12-21-06, 05:38 PM
Based on the lead of TallGuy, I wrote KTSC to tell them my pleasure with the excellent quality of their HD programming.

I got back a really nice reply from Pam Osborne. Here is her email address:

Pam Osborne [pamela_osborne@krma.pbs.org]

Others may wish to add their appreciation to our local PBS station 8.1

cdb

davidfritz
12-22-06, 06:35 AM
Edit - the email address in the Gazette article bounced back to me... I had to re-send it through the RMPBS web site at http://www.rmpbs.org/contact/index.cfm/to/KTSC%20Customer%20Service/.


Sent my email as well...they need to be informed or else they won't know what viewers want. I don't know if you guys are RMPBS members, but they need our financial support as well, so don't be afraid to kick a few bucks their way or I'd bet this wonderful programming/PQ won't last.

Just my $.02

davidfritz
12-22-06, 06:41 AM
KKTV had 5.1 sound last weekend for Army / Navy game but not a single prime time show during this past week. The first game yesterday was 5.1 as well so we will see later. Also I have E mailed them 7 times in the last 2 weeks and will continue untill they get it right. CSI on mon and the UNIT on tue are not the same in prologic.

Mike


Anyone know why we don't get Wheel and Jeopardy in HD?? The LA feed sure does...thought it odd we don't get it.

davidfritz
12-22-06, 06:51 AM
Spoke with KKTV today:

Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy will be broadcast in HD starting probably in January, so KKTV will be HD 6:00-11:30 each night (except for news)





Nevermind the Wheel and Jeporady question...thanks TG :cool:

bobandkel
12-22-06, 09:20 PM
All,

Thanks for the responses. Don't know if I mentioned what it was for those of you who are interested. It was a Pioneer 6070...got it at a great price at BB...1500 below list.

The buzzing is noticable on some occasions and others; not at all.

The picture is amazing. I'm now looking at the Panasonic 65" at Ultimate. I've listened as well as I could and I don't hear anything.

Anyone need a 65" HP 1080p? Great unit but awkward in the room that we have it in.

Regards,

Bob

M_A_C
12-22-06, 09:34 PM
Anyone able to tune in Altitude through comcast on a QAM? I think it used to be 112.2 but not anymore. I wanna see A.I. in HD!

Frank Zimkas
12-25-06, 10:33 AM
Merry Christmas Everyone!

rajkej
12-25-06, 02:54 PM
Merry Christmas Everyone!

Merry Christmas to you too!

Rmassey
12-25-06, 06:21 PM
Merry Happy Y'all - I'm just sitting here watching the Brian Setzer Orchestra Christmas Extravaganza on the HDTivo form HDNet.

Hope everyone is having a great day. :)

DouginDenver
12-26-06, 02:53 PM
I'm trying to help a friend who moved to the Springs from Denver, and is trying OTA HD for the first time. She lives east of I-25 one exit south of Academy (NE part of town). She got an indoor "HDTV" antenna from Best Buy or some such place.

I looked on Antenna web, and it shows 5 stations all 15.3 miles from her at the same compass heading - 189 degrees - all I assume are on Cheyenn Mtn. They are 21.1 (Fox), 13.1 (ABC), 5.1 (NBC), 8.1 (PBS), and 11.1 (CBS). Two say they are out of Pueblo?? Is this the complete list of digital OTA in the Springs? Any reason she should not be able to get all 5?

Here is what is confusing. I went to Titan TV and plugged in her zip and the only listing I got for a Springs digital channel was 5.1. None of those other 4. The rest were Denver channels. What am I missing?

TotallyPreWired
12-26-06, 03:12 PM
I looked on Antenna web, and it shows 5 stations all 15.3 miles from her at the same compass heading - 189 degrees - all I assume are on Cheyenn Mtn. They are 21.1 (Fox), 13.1 (ABC), 5.1 (NBC), 8.1 (PBS), and 11.1 (CBS). Two say they are out of Pueblo?? Is this the complete list of digital OTA in the Springs? Any reason she should not be able to get all 5?
Ok, I know that everything except maybe PBS is broadcasting digital from Cheyenne Mtn. PBS is what I'm not sure of. As far as Pueblo goes, KOAA(NBC) is broadcasting their analog signal from there. They also have an analog translator(channel 30) on Cheyenne Mtn.

So, depending on PBS, everthing else is indeed broadcasting digital from Cheyenne Mtn. She should be able to receive them all. Other than a few subchannels, I think that you have the list correct.
....jc

DouginDenver
12-26-06, 03:21 PM
Ok, I know that everything except maybe PBS is broadcasting digital from Cheyenne Mtn. PBS is what I'm not sure of. As far as Pueblo goes, KOAA(NBC) is broadcasting their analog signal from there. They also have an analog translator(channel 30) on Cheyenne Mtn.

So, depending on PBS, everthing else is indeed broadcasting digital from Cheyenne Mtn. She should be able to receive them all. Other than a few subchannels, I think that you have the list correct.
....jc


Any idea why Titan TV for her zip (80920) lists only 5.1 and then a bunch of Denver channels? That has me baffled.

DouginDenver
12-26-06, 03:24 PM
Ok, I know that everything except maybe PBS is broadcasting digital from Cheyenne Mtn. PBS is what I'm not sure of. As far as Pueblo goes, KOAA(NBC) is broadcasting their analog signal from there. They also have an analog translator(channel 30) on Cheyenne Mtn.

So, depending on PBS, everthing else is indeed broadcasting digital from Cheyenne Mtn. She should be able to receive them all. Other than a few subchannels, I think that you have the list correct.
....jc

What is the Channel 30 you referred to? Digital or analog? 30 or 30.1?

TotallyPreWired
12-26-06, 04:10 PM
Any idea why Titan TV for her zip (80920) lists only 5.1 and then a bunch of Denver channels? That has me baffled.
Nope. Try AntennaWeb. (http://www.antennaweb.org) It shows all 5.
....jc

TotallyPreWired
12-26-06, 04:14 PM
What is the Channel 30 you referred to? Digital or analog? 30 or 30.1?
KOAA is known as 5/30. Channel 5 is the analog broadcast from near Pueblo, and channel 30 is the analog translator on Cheyenne Mtn.

Since you are only interested in digital, KOAA is remapped to channel 5.1 and is broadcast on UHF frequency 42.
....jc

Snuffy101
12-27-06, 12:41 AM
It seems that the FCC has new rules for TV broadcasters forcing them to provide educational content for kids. :rolleyes: Some members on another thread think this will kill off a lot of sub channels. :) I read the regulation and but can't make the connection. If true it might be the end of MYKKTV and other useless crap.
The link to the FCC rule is;
http://www.hallikainen.com/FccRules/2007/73/671/
Maybe someone else can understand this better than me, I don't read Govt-speak very well.

zeldor
12-27-06, 09:18 AM
I would think that only applies to PBS and any cheap local cable access channel
type stations. anything coming out of KKTV doesnt strike me as educational...
but if it keeps the local pbs from having subchannels and keeping the nice
high quality signal it has had so far Im all for it.

on a related note, did anyone else notice a big drop in the PBS signal strength
last night?

It seems that the FCC has new rules for TV broadcasters forcing them to provide educational content for kids. :rolleyes: Some members on another thread think this will kill off a lot of sub channels. :) I read the regulation and but can't make the connection. If true it might be the end of MYKKTV and other useless crap.
The link to the FCC rule is;
http://www.hallikainen.com/FccRules/2007/73/671/
Maybe someone else can understand this better than me, I don't read Govt-speak very well.

TotallyPreWired
12-27-06, 09:48 AM
I would think that only applies to PBS and any cheap local cable access channel type stations. anything coming out of KKTV doesnt strike me as educational...
I don't think so. I believe that it applies to all stations. It doesn't look to be any big change, just clarifications for digital channels(and subchannels). Ever wonder why Saturday mornings are 'Cartoon City'? They need to get that '3 Hour Core Programming' slipped in somewhere.

And, reading this document, this law doesn't look to be new. It was established in 1990.
....jc

TallGuy
12-27-06, 09:27 PM
No signal on KOAA 5-1 tonight?

KellyWi
12-27-06, 10:12 PM
No signal on KOAA 5-1 tonight?

I'm not getting one...wonder if it's the same deal as before where some folks were getting it.

cdb
12-27-06, 10:13 PM
No signal on KOAA 5-1 tonight?

No 5.1 here tonight.

For the past couple of weeks, I have not gotten good reception on 5.1 or 13.1 and the signal strength has at times been below 30 on my HR10-250 and the HR20-700. This is rather recent for KRDO....?

I probably need an Antenna Amplifier.....?

DirectTv did finally open the OTA turner a couple of weeks ago on the HR20-700. I like the box, but it has needed a Red Button Reset a couple of times. :) :(

glennzippy
12-27-06, 11:16 PM
This is way off thread but since it's a local-type forum I thought I had a chance...

Does anyone have a spare lamp (ideally a new one) for a Panasonic PT-AE700U that they could part with for a few days? I'm happy to replace it with a new one when mine comes in, but that doesn't look like it will happen right away with the storm moving in.

I can make it worthwhile for someone as I have some connections on equipment...

Symbios
12-28-06, 02:33 AM
KOAA is MIA here as well.

TallGuy
12-28-06, 09:32 AM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9289337#post9289337

KOAA and HDTV - Updated 12-28-06

As of 7PM on 12-27-06, KOAA-DT is off the air due to an equipment failure. We are woking on it and will resume broadcasting when repairs can be finished. Sorry for the delay.
Well, at least they are "woking" on it!

logicman1
12-28-06, 11:00 AM
Darn, I just bought a new HDTV for the upstairs and wouldn't you know that KOAA goes down just as I'm setting it up! For a while there I thought it was the TV.

QUESTION: I'm getting the locals via a rooftop antenna and I've noticed that sometimes there's a sound sync problem with KKTV (11.1). Is this something that anyone else has experienced?

GatoViejo
12-28-06, 11:29 AM
QUESTION: I'm getting the locals via a rooftop antenna and I've noticed that sometimes there's a sound sync problem with KKTV (11.1). Is this something that anyone else has experienced?

Yes. I first noticed this issue when KKTV began multicasting. I routinely apply a 0.32 second video delay to all KKTV HD programming. None of the other local stations require any adjustment.

TallGuy
12-28-06, 06:53 PM
Looks like 5.1 is back - thought they might have to wait for equipment until after the storm and the holiday, so that's good...

Sometimes 11.1 looks in sync to me, and sometimes not - hopefully they will fine-tune their equipment as time goes on...

rvaniwaa
12-29-06, 09:58 AM
No 5.1 here tonight.

For the past couple of weeks, I have not gotten good reception on 5.1 or 13.1 and the signal strength has at times been below 30 on my HR10-250 and the HR20-700. This is rather recent for KRDO....?

I probably need an Antenna Amplifier.....?

DirectTv did finally open the OTA turner a couple of weeks ago on the HR20-700. I like the box, but it has needed a Red Button Reset a couple of times. :) :(

13.1 has always come in good here but I am only getting a signal strength of ~20 for the last few days on my HD TiVo. Always received it good in the past...

--Ron

TallGuy
12-29-06, 10:22 AM
Yeah, it's definitely low. My PC HD tuner can tune it in because of the 5th generation ATSC tuner, but it's down to 16-17 db of signal when it's usually about 25. I bet my TiVo can't lock onto it. Hopefully it's a temporary power drop at KRDO.

logicman1
12-29-06, 11:13 AM
I'm getting a "new" channel -- 80.3. It's labeled PBS1DTV. Is something new? I'm not getting 8.1 any longer, so I'm wondering if this a replacement channel?

GatoViejo
12-29-06, 12:09 PM
I'm getting a "new" channel -- 80.3. It's labeled PBS1DTV. Is something new? I'm not getting 8.1 any longer, so I'm wondering if this a replacement channel?

This is just a labeling change in the PSIP data. KTSC is still broadcasting on UHF channel 26, just like before. Personally, I think that these virtual channel identifiers are more confusing than helpful. This one might just be a typo and will change back at some point.

Snuffy101
12-29-06, 12:17 PM
I'm getting a "new" channel -- 80.3. It's labeled PBS1DTV. Is something new? I'm not getting 8.1 any longer, so I'm wondering if this a replacement channel?
I noticed the same thing this morning except I'm still getting 8.1. Maybe they are messing with their PSIP to display Guide info for PBS-HD.

tommyjohn
12-29-06, 12:40 PM
I was wondering if anyone could help me understand the antenna type recommendations on the AntennaWeb site. I live in the Peregrine area (northwest corner of the city) and the web site lists all the HD/DTV stations as being 14.2 miles and an orientation of 169 degrees, which I understand since all the transmitters are on Cheyenne Mtn. What I don't understand is why are KXRM and KOAA listed in the blue and violet range, respectively, for antenna type. It seems to me that all these stations would be about the same.

I also have another reception question. I currently have a Terk TV5 antenna feeding a HR10-250 receiver. I can get decent reception on all but KOAA (I get a very poor signal on this), but only if I put the antenna in one orientation for KKTV and another for the rest. There is a ridge that runs between my house and my line of sight to the towers, however I believe I can see over the ridge to the towers from the top of my roof. I live in area where outside antennas are not allowed, so I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what I could do to improve and stabilize my reception. I thought about putting an antenna in my attic, but I have Decora roofing (metal) and I am not sure how badly that would interfere with the reception.

zeldor
12-29-06, 02:17 PM
I can suggest 2 things,
the first being tell your HOA rules to shove it, there are FCC laws prohibiting restrictions on antennas and small satellite dishes on homes.
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
Nov 2006 edition
in particular, note:
Q: What types of antennas are covered by the rule?
(3) An antenna that is designed to receive local television broadcast signals. Masts higher than 12 feet above the roofline may be subject to local permitting requirements.

secondly drop the terk antenna. get anything else. there is a $50 antenna from
the shack thats in my attic that blows the doors off the terk I used to have.
(radioshack, the only powered hd indoor antenna they have in the stores for sale)

I was wondering if anyone could help me understand the antenna type recommendations on the AntennaWeb site. I live in the Peregrine area (northwest corner of the city) and the web site lists all the HD/DTV stations as being 14.2 miles and an orientation of 169 degrees, which I understand since all the transmitters are on Cheyenne Mtn. What I don't understand is why are KXRM and KOAA listed in the blue and violet range, respectively, for antenna type. It seems to me that all these stations would be about the same.

I also have another reception question. I currently have a Terk TV5 antenna feeding a HR10-250 receiver. I can get decent reception on all but KOAA (I get a very poor signal on this), but only if I put the antenna in one orientation for KKTV and another for the rest. There is a ridge that runs between my house and my line of sight to the towers, however I believe I can see over the ridge to the towers from the top of my roof. I live in area where outside antennas are not allowed, so I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what I could do to improve and stabilize my reception. I thought about putting an antenna in my attic, but I have Decora roofing (metal) and I am not sure how badly that would interfere with the reception.

DanHuff
12-29-06, 04:17 PM
Did anyone else get annoyed with 5.1 last night and their "Closings" showing on the screen ALL NIGHT? This really detracts from the picture, and the picture you did get ended up being only about 1/3 of the screen. I would think most folks would be happy with an update on the top/bottom of the hour, but most of the stations just kept the "Closings" rolling all night.

Anywho, in regards to the antenna, remember that ANY analog antenna will be good enough for digital HDTV (even an old set of rabbit ears). And as Geldor mentioned, please please please junk the Terk. Like Monster cable, just an over-priced POS.

Rmassey
12-30-06, 05:48 PM
Also consider getting a preamp for your antenna. I was having issues getting KOAA too and adding a preamp solved the weak signals.

sticolorado
12-30-06, 06:17 PM
i just moved into my house in Gleneagle, and got a $50 RCA indoor HD antenna with preamp. its 30 Dec today.

I am having the opposite problem as everyone else here... i get ch 5.1, 8.1, and 21.1 just fine.

I can't get 13.1 or 11.1 to go above 50% signal, and my Sharp TV is telling me that's not enough signal.

Is anyone else having this problem? I need to recitify this problem or my wife will kill me (because she won't be able to see bowl games.)

BTW: i'm getting 100% signal on 5.1 and 90% signal on the other two. Why, if they're all in the same braodcast location be giving me such divergent signal levels?

sticolorado
12-30-06, 06:42 PM
Is anyone else getting "THETUBE" on channel 21.2? Its one of the strongest signals that i get, yet its not even mentioned on Antennaweb.

TallGuy
12-30-06, 08:23 PM
13.1 has been lower power than usual the past few days, and today it looks to be in between the normal level and the recent low level. Hopefully they'll figure it out and boost the power back to where it was. A bigger antenna would help with this too, at a 20-mile distance from the towers.

11.1 - I'm pretty sure your issue is trying to receive the VHF signal with a little antenna. 11-1 is broadcasted on channel 10, and is our only VHF digital signal in town. VHF is received much better with the big ugly antennas - something about the large amplitude of the signal if I remember what I read before. I'm in Gleneagle too and the 6-foot antenna does fine for 11.1 but the little Radio Shack antenna can only receive the UHF channels.

21.2 - As far at The Tube, it should be the same signal strength as KXRM 21.1 since they are carried in the same signal, I'm pretty sure.

Happy new year everyone!

Rmassey
12-30-06, 08:58 PM
The Tube is prob not listed on Antennaweb because it's only SD @ 480i.

RJO
12-31-06, 12:11 AM
Did anyone else get annoyed with 5.1 last night and their "Closings" showing on the screen ALL NIGHT? This really detracts from the picture, and the picture you did get ended up being only about 1/3 of the screen. I would think most folks would be happy with an update on the top/bottom of the hour, but most of the stations just kept the "Closings" rolling all night.
.

I have to agree. This was most annoying and very difficult to to watch. I think by Friday evening everybody should have known that southern Colorado was pretty much closed down and no need for continuous scrolling.

TallGuy
12-31-06, 05:07 PM
49ers-Broncos on Fox OTA looks like caca - terribly blurry - I would have guessed "Fox Widescreen" rather than HDTV. There was a rumor in the Fox NFL HDTV thread that Fox had trouble getting all the equipment into Denver this week due to the snow.

rajkej
12-31-06, 05:25 PM
49ers-Broncos on Fox OTA looks like caca - terribly blurry - I would have guessed "Fox Widescreen" rather than HDTV. There was a rumor in the Fox NFL HDTV thread that Fox had trouble getting all the equipment into Denver this week due to the snow.

It was HD to start with. Several dropouts on audio however. Then it went widescreen. Not worth watching Plummer throw the ball away anyhow.

TallGuy
12-31-06, 05:27 PM
Some commercials and clips of other games are good HD - so I wonder if the change is at the production truck or the network distribution center - probably not at the affiliate. Close-up shots look better than distant shots.

TallGuy
12-31-06, 05:33 PM
Note: switch to CBS 11-1 to remember what HD football is supposed to look like!

cdb
12-31-06, 10:45 PM
Let me console you who watched the game on Fox with lousy transmission... it had to be far better than driving to Denver, sitting in the freezing cold with snow and ice under the seats, and having to endure a boring and poorly played game that forced more suffering by going to the last couple of minutes of overtime. :mad:

I wish I had been sitting in my family room, warm and cozy by the fire.

I really enjoy the communication and the helps that I have gotten from this forum. :D

Happy New Year to all !!!!!

Frank Zimkas
12-31-06, 10:53 PM
They officiating was horrendous. A few of those ****** calls really cost the Broncos the game. No, they weren't perfect, but the ref's played too big of a roll in the outcome of this game.

TotallyPreWired
12-31-06, 11:46 PM
Some commercials and clips of other games are good HD - so I wonder if the change is at the production truck or the network distribution center - probably not at the affiliate. Close-up shots look better than distant shots.
As most of you have probably heard, the production truck(all of their equipment) never made it to the game. My guess is that it's sitting somewhere along still closed I-70.

It's amazing that they were able to broadcast the game at all! Most of the equipment was borrowed from Fox Sports Net, and yes, many of the cameras were SD.

Due to the heavy snows of late, KDVR was not viewable(well worth watching) at my location. So, I was spared most of poor quality. It wasn't until the Charger game ended(on D* FoxW), that I was able to catch the ugly details in pseudo 'HD'.

Ok, the game:

The Donkies were pretty much horrible this year. They have proved it over and over again. It's probably better to have the end occur now, than to get dismembered on national TV next weekend.

Bowlen has some major decisions to make. So does Shanahan(if he's still the 'Offensive Genius'). The defense started out well, then descended into mediocrity. Coyer should be held responsible. The late game breakdowns are more the doing of poor coaching than poor playing. Today was a good example.

Ever since Elway departed, Shanahan has been trying to force mediocre QB's into his mold(remember Griese?). It hasn't worked, but he keeps trying.

It could be a while before we have a real playoff team.
....jc

TallGuy
12-31-06, 11:55 PM
Can't blame FOX now that we know that...the snow was really a huge challenge here the last week and a half.

As for the Broncos, I'm glad Cutler got started on his NFL experience this year at least. I wanted him to go to a playoff game and even in losing, learn something for the future.

I tell you what, the tide has turned in Colorado sports...the Nuggets are a playoff team and the Broncos aren't.

mscoins
01-01-07, 10:11 AM
As a Broncos fan for the past 33 years, I was glad to see the local Fox affiliate switch from the Eagles-Falcons game midway through the third quarter. Picture quality on Cox was much better than the final score. Oh well, maybe next year.

beatboy77
01-01-07, 10:38 AM
As most of you have probably heard, the production truck(all of their equipment) never made it to the game. My guess is that it's sitting somewhere along still closed I-70.

It's amazing that they were able to broadcast the game at all! Most of the equipment was borrowed from Fox Sports Net, and yes, many of the cameras were SD.

Due to the heavy snows of late, KDVR was not viewable(well worth watching) at my location. So, I was spared most of poor quality. It wasn't until the Charger game ended(on D* FoxW), that I was able to catch the ugly details in pseudo 'HD'.

Ok, the game:

The Donkies were pretty much horrible this year. They have proved it over and over again. It's probably better to have the end occur now, than to get dismembered on national TV next weekend.

Bowlen has some major decisions to make. So does Shanahan(if he's still the 'Offensive Genius'). The defense started out well, then descended into mediocrity. Coyer should be held responsible. The late game breakdowns are more the doing of poor coaching than poor playing. Today was a good example.

Ever since Elway departed, Shanahan has been trying to force mediocre QB's into his mold(remember Griese?). It hasn't worked, but he keeps trying.

It could be a while before we have a real playoff team.
....jc

OT as well. You know what amazes me about the NFL? Tom Brady!! The Pats keep taking away all of his star offensive palyers and he just keeps winning. This year he lost his two starting receivers, Dion Branch and David Givens and The Pats still went 12-4. How would Peyton Manning do without Harrison and Wayne? Is there a better QB out there then Brady?

Sorry to be OT guys, but I just get sick of hearing by so many that Peyton Manning is the best now/ever etc. To me, you have to win some Superbowls to be considered the best.

Anyway, vent over!! :D

~Josh

beatboy77
01-01-07, 10:44 AM
http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1328334

Bronco Dead.

~Josh

Joanr
01-01-07, 11:10 AM
Unbelievable, Darrent Willams, RIP

Isn't the Rose Bowl Parade supposed to be in HD?

Rmassey
01-01-07, 11:25 AM
Yeah, looks like KOAA and KDRO are broadcasting blur-O-Vision for the Rose Parade today. Isn't it 2007 and our local broadcasters can't give us an HD feed? I switched to Discovery HD where they are broadcasting it in HD via KTLA Los Angeles - plus, no commercials on Disc HD.

rvaniwaa
01-01-07, 11:29 AM
http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1328334

Bronco Dead.

~Josh

My heart goes out to his family. Stunning...

--Ron

TallGuy
01-01-07, 11:30 AM
The new guy from the temp agency is running the engineering room at KRDO on a holiday... :)

Joanr
01-01-07, 11:39 AM
Thanks, looks a lot better now. I just can't get over the tragic events of earlier this morning. Not much news on the wire.
This forum has been so helpful to me the past few years, to all of us a Happy New Year!

Tandem
01-01-07, 12:58 PM
Didn't KRDO showcase its entry into the world of HD last year with the Rose Bowl Parade in hi-def? My, how far they have come in just a year's time. :rolleyes:

RJO
01-01-07, 01:26 PM
Not to mention that Fox 21 is not showing the Cotton Bowl in HD. Fox has been adverstising for weeks how they were going to have all the bowl games in HD but now the local affiliate can't get it right. I caught some replays at halftime on ESPN of the Cotton Bowl and they were in HD so the game is originating in HD.

celfon
01-01-07, 02:42 PM
Not to mention that Fox 21 is not showing the Cotton Bowl in HD. Fox has been adverstising for weeks how they were going to have all the bowl games in HD but now the local affiliate can't get it right. I caught some replays at halftime on ESPN of the Cotton Bowl and they were in HD so the game is originating in HD.

Yep, KDVR out of Denver has it in HD.

TotallyPreWired
01-01-07, 03:02 PM
Not to mention that Fox 21 is not showing the Cotton Bowl in HD. Fox has been adverstising for weeks how they were going to have all the bowl games in HD but now the local affiliate can't get it right. I caught some replays at halftime on ESPN of the Cotton Bowl and they were in HD so the game is originating in HD.
Yea, Fox is going downhill fast!. The surround sound was poor, loud 1 second, quiet the next. Poor. Almost no stats shown. Down & distance? Sometimes. Summerall was pretty good though.

Fox in LA had the game in HD.
....jc

springsHD=Horrid
01-01-07, 06:22 PM
The announcers for the game said that their production truck was stuck outside of Denver somewhere and that FOX Sports Rocky Mountain and TNT let them use their equipment to broadcast the game......we're lucky we got to see them lose this week rather than next week ;)

sabaranski
01-01-07, 08:02 PM
http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1328334

Bronco Dead.

~Josh

I am an OSU alum. Between Darrent Williams' untimely death and the 2001 plane crash in Byers, it is an eerie feeling to be in Colorado.

Hunter235
01-02-07, 01:19 PM
Greetings all and happy New Year!

I have been a lurker for sometime, but have finally decided to register and get things going with my HDTV set.

I have a RCA 38310 HDTV, and a Terk HDTV-S antenna. I spent all of the week between Christmas and New Years trying out different antennas to get all the digital signals. I finally decided that the Terk was the best for my area. It is tuned in by compass heading (according to antennaweb) to Cheyenne Mt. and is working well. I do have a couple questions though:

1. It appears that KOAA-DT is down, as well as KTSC-DT. Is anyone else seeing the same thing, or am I just not getting those signals? I get nothing on 5.1 or 8.1.

2. KRDO-DT is not broadcasting for me on 13.1. I am getting it on 24.3 in addition to 24.4. Is this temporary, or is that where I am going to find KRDO in the future.

3. I have noticed (excuse my ignorance) that KKTV-DT comes in at 10.1 and 10.2. Looking at TitanTV, it shows the frequency (10) for KKTV under 11.1. Since I get KKTV-DT on 10, would the same hold true for KOAA-DT and KTSC-DT? Should I be manually entering 42.1 (KOAA-DT) and 26.1 (KTSC-DT) to receive those channels?

Thanks for any help you can give a newbie. :)

TallGuy
01-03-07, 12:59 AM
Seems like your TV is not mapping the channels normally. I haven't heard of anyone getting 24.3 or 24.4 but frequency 24 should provide virtual KRDO channels 13.1 and 13.2. Same with KKTV sending on frequency 10 the virtual channels 11.1 and 11.2. So if your TV doesn't deal with virtual channels, I would definitely try 42.x and 26.x. Or maybe there's a setting you can change in the TV menu somewhere, who knows, that's a question for the RCA manual or an RCA forum... ?

Welcome to the COS forum - always good to convert lurkers to posters!

TallGuy
01-03-07, 01:07 AM
We do communicate our schedules to the listings services and will begin sending the HD listings now that the signal is up and running. The end result is that you should be able to use the on-air guide in the near future.
Good news...will have to revise my signature again...

jlachanc
01-03-07, 02:26 AM
I posted this on the Moxi fourm thread, but thought other Colo Spgs Comcast-Moxi users might be interested:

I’ve had problems with my Moxi program guide intermittently not updating. I called Comcast (formerly Adelphia for us in Colorado Springs) to schedule a tech to come out and replace/fix the box.
While on the call I engaged the CSR in a conversation around the future of Moxi with Comcast in Colorado. The CSR was friendly and open, but I would not consider them to be completely knowledgeable in terms of A/V technology.
Setting this aside, the conversation was still interesting. In brief, the future does not look good for Moxi & Comcast. Here’s a paraphrased version of what we discussed:

What’s the future of Moxi with Comcast in Colorado?
Comcast is planning to phase out the use Moxi system. Initially, when customers have issues they will replace it with the Motorola 6412. Eventfully they will do a full recall on the boxes when there is more availability on the 6412. The CSR did not know when this would occur, but estimated this would start within the next 6-12 months. Customers will be notified via a letter in advance of the change.

Why is Comcast dumping the Moxi?
There are several reasons. The primary is overall cost of ownership by Comcast. The boxes do not seem to be as reliable as the Moto 6412 and if there is an issue, it is mandatory for Comcast to send out a tech to the house to fix it, (the techs can do very little over the phone). This is also the case when a new Moxi is installed. Apparently this is not the case with the Moto 6412. A customer can go to the local office, pick it, bring home, hook it up and they are good to go. Issues around the way Moxi reserves disk space in advance (and prevents scheduling of new programming) were also cited.

Is Comcast going to push out the latest Moxi software/firmware (4.1) even though it will be phased out?
Comcast’s policy is to push all of the newest firmware as soon as it’s been tested. This usually takes 1 month from the date they get it. Comcast will not enable all features of the firmware, such as the games. They did not know if the external hard drive functionality would be enabled or not.

Which box is better the Moxi or Moto 6412?
This person felt strongly that the 6412 was superior due to aforementioned reliability, larger disk space (compared to the 80GB model), and recording scheduling issues. They admitted the Moxi had an easier more intuitive interface.

Will Comcast offer any new other DVR models in the future?
Comcast has been in discussions with Tivo and is really close to signing a deal. No other details at this point.

Cheers.

RockyMountainD
01-03-07, 09:57 AM
I posted this on the Moxi fourm thread, but thought other Colo Spgs Comcast-Moxi users might be interested:

I’ve had problems with my Moxi program guide intermittently not updating. I called Comcast (formerly Adelphia for us in Colorado Springs) to schedule a tech to come out and replace/fix the box.
While on the call I engaged the CSR in a conversation around the future of Moxi with Comcast in Colorado. The CSR was friendly and open, but I would not consider them to be completely knowledgeable in terms of A/V technology.
Setting this aside, the conversation was still interesting. In brief, the future does not look good for Moxi & Comcast. Here’s a paraphrased version of what we discussed:

What’s the future of Moxi with Comcast in Colorado?
Comcast is planning to phase out the use Moxi system. Initially, when customers have issues they will replace it with the Motorola 6412. Eventfully they will do a full recall on the boxes when there is more availability on the 6412. The CSR did not know when this would occur, but estimated this would start within the next 6-12 months. Customers will be notified via a letter in advance of the change.

Why is Comcast dumping the Moxi?
There are several reasons. The primary is overall cost of ownership by Comcast. The boxes do not seem to be as reliable as the Moto 6412 and if there is an issue, it is mandatory for Comcast to send out a tech to the house to fix it, (the techs can do very little over the phone). This is also the case when a new Moxi is installed. Apparently this is not the case with the Moto 6412. A customer can go to the local office, pick it, bring home, hook it up and they are good to go. Issues around the way Moxi reserves disk space in advance (and prevents scheduling of new programming) were also cited.

Is Comcast going to push out the latest Moxi software/firmware (4.1) even though it will be phased out?
Comcast’s policy is to push all of the newest firmware as soon as it’s been tested. This usually takes 1 month from the date they get it. Comcast will not enable all features of the firmware, such as the games. They did not know if the external hard drive functionality would be enabled or not.

Which box is better the Moxi or Moto 6412?
This person felt strongly that the 6412 was superior due to aforementioned reliability, larger disk space (compared to the 80GB model), and recording scheduling issues. They admitted the Moxi had an easier more intuitive interface.

Will Comcast offer any new other DVR models in the future?
Comcast has been in discussions with Tivo and is really close to signing a deal. No other details at this point.

Cheers.

Thanks for the update, jlachanc. I can see the CS org preferring the 6412 as it has no internal cable modem and doesn't need a truck roll for provisioning. With the 4.1 update, though, the MOXI is better on all other counts. Faster menus, external drive support, etc. I doubt we'll ever see the update though if they're planning on phasing them out :(

Barry Walker
01-03-07, 11:32 AM
What's the current state of OTA with the E* ViP622 in COS?

I assume you need to purchase local programming to receive guide data?

Does name based OTA programming work now?

Looking through this thread it looks like it didn't early last year.

Thanks

sabaranski
01-03-07, 11:42 AM
Although "the future does not look good for Moxi & Comcast", I'm cautiously optimistic that the future looks good for Comcast customers in Colorado Springs. I work for a "premium" TV network in Denver, and we have Moto boxes on our demo TVs all over the building. They feed Comcast, and look great. I don't think, however, that the DVR functionality is as good as my Direct HD Tivo.

I have contemplated making the switch from D* to Comcast now that they are in town. Why would I switch? I'm particularly interested in more reliable OTA signals (most are OK, but try as I might, KRDO sucks for me in Monument), Altitude in HD, and getting all of the channels my employer airs (D* only airs a subset of them, even though they just raised rates for a partial "Super Pack").

In addition to features and quality, I'm interested in saving some $. I've been told that Comcast has a Silver HD/Internet promotion targeting satellite customers, but I've had trouble finding a competent call center representative to talk to. It's supposed to offer the "Silver" digital cable subscription level, plus cable modem for $84.99 forever. Installation is at/near free, with two standard Moto DCT boxes for free. I'd use one standard Moto for my bedroom, one with an HD converter for my LCD in the living room ($5/month) fee, and the dual-tuner HD DVR they supposedly have ($11.95/mo) for my Samsung 50" DLP in the media room.

So if I can secure this elusive package, I could save over my current bundle with Qwest. Currently I pay ~$150 for Qwest phone/LD, Qwest DSL Premier (7 Mbps), and D* with decent programming, one premium channel, additional receivers and the HD package. It would be less to secure a long-term price for Comcast TV and internet (6 Mbps) with Vonage VoIP ($25/mo is cheaper than Qwest OneFlex VoIP or conventional phone). Even when Comcast introduces the triple play, their promotional rate (currently $33 in Denver) would lose out to the standard Vonage rate ($25).

I would appreciate any additional feedback about my logic, or any experiences folks have had with the "new" Comcast.

Have a Comcastic day! :)

Rmassey
01-03-07, 04:15 PM
"Silver" digital cable subscription level, plus cable modem for $84.99 forever.
Add in a Tivo S3 and you are set :)

I am still curious if anyone here in CS has done cablecards with Comcast using an S3. It seems there is significant pain for many users here.

logicman1
01-04-07, 12:12 AM
What's the current state of OTA with the E* ViP622 in COS?

I assume you need to purchase local programming to receive guide data?

Does name based OTA programming work now?

Looking through this thread it looks like it didn't early last year.

Thanks

Hi Barry, welcome to the site! I've had the ViP622 for about a year now and I DO NOT subscribe to the Colorado Springs locals since they're not in HD. It's my understanding that you do, indeed, get name based recording of all channels that you've subscribed to, including the locals. You can set up manual recording of the OTA locals through the ViP622 -- it's not convenient to do it but it gets easier after you've done it a few times.

TallGuy
01-04-07, 01:33 AM
Seems typical that Comcast would abandon the better user interface Moxi for the clunky more annoying Motorola rather than resolve the issues with the Moxi. It doesn't seem like cable companies, or DirecTV or Dish for that matter, ever truly get the simplicity, ease of use and advanced functionality of the TiVo. All the non-TiVo DVRs I've ever used have numerous shortcomings and software issues compared to the TiVo, but they cost less so most people go for the boxes with the problems, ads, bugs, etc.

Now that DirecTV seems to be abandoning TiVo (though I read that the new owners might revisit that decision by the previous group), the TiVo Series 3 for cable would be interesting once the price drops, and I also have some hope for the TiVo software that Comcast is working on for the Motorola boxes. I read somewhere that it is relatively close to happening. That would make cable HD interesting to me, assuming that cable figures out how to compete with the expanded HD channel lineup that DirecTV should bring out in 2007.

TallGuy
01-04-07, 01:35 AM
And just when I was thinking tonight how nice it was to have 5 HD programs available OTA at the same time, and that the TV stations here hadn't been screwing up much lately...we have no HD for Leno and Letterman at the same time... What's up, KOAA and KKTV?

mrtolles
01-04-07, 09:04 AM
[QUOTE=TallGuy]Seems typical that Comcast would abandon the better user interface Moxi for the clunky more annoying Motorola rather than resolve the issues with the Moxi. It doesn't seem like cable companies, or DirecTV or Dish for that matter, ever truly get the simplicity, ease of use and advanced functionality of the TiVo. All the non-TiVo DVRs I've ever used have numerous shortcomings and software issues compared to the TiVo, but they cost less so most people go for the boxes with the problems, ads, bugs, etc. QUOTE]


I had a lot more trouble with the Moxi box with Adelphia then I have had with the Moto. The Moxi box is twice as big too which was a rather eye sore for me. The user interface with both boxes, imo, both had pros and cons. But overall I'm a lot more happy with the Moto.

2cats1dog
01-04-07, 06:43 PM
I had the Motorola 6412 and didn't have any problems with it really, back in California last year. The software wasn't as "flashy" but it told me the percentage left on the hard drive, had a bigger hard drive and allowed manual recordings. (If the Moxi does these, too, please correct me!)

-Kelly

Whose Comcast e-mail has been inexplicably "locked" for the past day and a half and was told it would be looked at in 24-72 hours. Unbelievable!

TallGuy
01-05-07, 01:37 AM
No HD from KOAA the whole night tonight and at least part of last night - more equipment problems? No announcement on the KOAA web site this time. Hate to see The Office in SD...

RockyMountainD
01-05-07, 09:58 AM
I had the Motorola 6412 and didn't have any problems with it really, back in California last year. The software wasn't as "flashy" but it told me the percentage left on the hard drive, had a bigger hard drive and allowed manual recordings. (If the Moxi does these, too, please correct me!)

-Kelly

Whose Comcast e-mail has been inexplicably "locked" for the past day and a half and was told it would be looked at in 24-72 hours. Unbelievable!

Not sure if manual recording time made it into 4.1 (never had a need for it myself), but there's really no limit to the HDD size now. Plug in whatever sized USB drive you want and MOXI will recognize and use it. Has a nice usage bar graphic as well.

I got the "convert to comcast" email yesterday. Went pretty smoothly. Only glitch I noticed was that it didn't auto-converted all of my adelphia email accounts; had to do one manually...no big deal. Wonder if this round of conversions slowed/locked their servers.

2cats1dog
01-05-07, 11:12 AM
^^ Hmm, if they're still doing e-mail conversions maybe it inadvertently locked up my account too... It's working again this morning.

I need manual record right now for INHD because they have Altitude guide data on 701 24/7 even though they only broadcast Altitude events during games. :mad: Strangely Titan TV puts Altitude guide data on 703. I wish they'd just put it there too. It also would come in handy in the rare event that I want to record something on one of the educational/government channels (channels 16-20 or so). They have some neat shows, but HORRIBLE picture quality. I really like SCOLA and MHz Network. I don't see why they can't put up guide data for them but I can see the schedules online. Still, I miss a bunch of interesting shows.

SteelCity66
01-05-07, 08:07 PM
KOAA was actually broadcasting in HD for the first 10 minutes or so of My Name Is Earl last night. It cut out of HD abruptly during the show (not at a commercial), so I'm guessing there was some sort of problem.

RUSTAMUST
01-05-07, 11:29 PM
Has anyone noticed that KKTV and KOAA are broadcasting a DD 5.1 signal without any surround and L & R front are mirroring center channel. This is while HD or not so I wonder what is going on and how they do it. Oh well such is life in the CS world of HD and DD 5.1.

Snuffy101
01-06-07, 02:13 PM
Has anyone noticed that KKTV and KOAA are broadcasting a DD 5.1 signal without any surround and L & R front are mirroring center channel. This is while HD or not so I wonder what is going on and how they do it. Oh well such is life in the CS world of HD and DD 5.1.
I believe KKTV and KOAA sometimes are just putting out a 2 channel DD sound. The way your TV or receiver handles DD 2 channel can make a difference. I have my receiver set to turn on Dolby PLII when receiving 2 channel sound and it extracts surround info if it is there and sounds great.

I have found that local originated sound content for KXRM 21.1 FOX is the worst. I think what they are doing is taking monaural sound and doing a phase shift trying creating a poor excuse for stereo/surround. The sound comes from all my speakers equally except the center channel and I find it phony and very irritating. Their National feed sounds good however.

2cats1dog
01-06-07, 02:14 PM
I looked up the channel guide for Comcast Colorado Springs yesterday and I noticed they list PBS Kids Sprout on ch 122 and TNT-HD on 735 which we don't have yet, but I'm assuming it's just a matter of time- great.

But, most distressingly I noticed that HDNet and HDNet Movies were absent from the lineup. I tried calling customer service this morning and got tired of waiting on hold. Does anyone have info on the upcoming changes? I was really hoping the contract with HDNet was going to last quite a while. :(

-Kelly

zeldor
01-06-07, 04:53 PM
anyone need a winegard ss-2000 antenna?
http://www.winegard.com/offair/squareshooter.htm
never used $75 powers and stetson hills area.

steve 265-8788

RUSTAMUST
01-06-07, 10:10 PM
I believe KKTV and KOAA sometimes are just putting out a 2 channel DD sound. The way your TV or receiver handles DD 2 channel can make a difference. I have my receiver set to turn on Dolby PLII when receiving 2 channel sound and it extracts surround info if it is there and sounds great.

I have found that local originated sound content for KXRM 21.1 FOX is the worst. I think what they are doing is taking monaural sound and doing a phase shift trying creating a poor excuse for stereo/surround. The sound comes from all my speakers equally except the center channel and I find it phony and very irritating. Their National feed sounds good however.

My receiver defaults to pro logic for DD 2 channel? and does not show surround or sub/lfe. When on my sat HD channels which are DD 5.1 or DVDs it shows all lights center, L, R, surround L, R, and sub or LFE. So I know its performing correctly. If you check right now you should hear 2 cannel stereo with no center yet all DD 5.1 lights are lit. By the way what is DD 2 channel?

Mike

SteelCity66
01-07-07, 01:40 PM
Anyone else having audio issues with the Jets/Pats game? I'm watching it on comcast and am getting a lot of pops and audio loss.

RUSTAMUST
01-07-07, 03:04 PM
Anyone else having audio issues with the Jets/Pats game? I'm watching it on comcast and am getting a lot of pops and audio loss.


Same on OTA HD for me and still showing DD 5.1 but there is center channel today along with no surround. There is a lot of pops and changing volume up and down.

Mike

Snuffy101
01-07-07, 03:49 PM
My receiver defaults to pro logic for DD 2 channel? and does not show surround or sub/lfe. When on my sat HD channels which are DD 5.1 or DVDs it shows all lights center, L, R, surround L, R, and sub or LFE. So I know its performing correctly. If you check right now you should hear 2 cannel stereo with no center yet all DD 5.1 lights are lit. By the way what is DD 2 channel?

Mike
Dolby Digital can be from 1 up to 6 channels, most LOCAL DD audio is sent as DD 2 channel (Stereo) even though they typically only have 1 mono channel. My receiver displays the amount of channels as 3:2.1 for 5.1 DD and 2/0 for 2 ch. (Stereo).
Right now it is showing KXRM's DD signal as 2/2 and I get sound from L,R, Ls and Rs and LFE, no Center (I suspect the receiver is extracting the low frequencies and sending them to the LFE). With this present format I can not select PLIIx. It sure sounds like the L and R channels are the mono channel applied to the L and R channels 180 degrees out of phase with each other. If they were in phase you would hear a phantom center channel. A few days ago my receiver detected their audio as 2/0, it was still "180 phased" but I could select PLIIx, though it still sounded like crap.

BTW A good resource for info on DD is;
http://www.dolby.com/assets/pdf/tech_library/42_DDFAQ.pdf

Joanr
01-07-07, 10:10 PM
I looked up the channel guide for Comcast Colorado Springs yesterday and I noticed they list PBS Kids Sprout on ch 122 and TNT-HD on 735 which we don't have yet, but I'm assuming it's just a matter of time- great.

But, most distressingly I noticed that HDNet and HDNet Movies were absent from the lineup. I tried calling customer service this morning and got tired of waiting on hold. Does anyone have info on the upcoming changes? I was really hoping the contract with HDNet was going to last quite a while. :(

-Kelly

Even more distressing is a few minutes on the phone with one of the customer reps. They have no idea what is available to Adelphia cross-overs. I called tonight to ask why I wasn't seeing any HD On Demand, which is HD VOD as per their TV Planner listings, and got three different versions of what might be the problem from 3 different reps. Now they want 11.95 for the HD service, (does that inlcude my HD box without the DVR? They didn't know), and that might fix the lack of the HD VOD, or it might not be available here yet, even though it's listed in their TV Planner for my zip code, or it just might not have properly come to the box yet. Just no clue.

As far as the HDNet Channels, no they are not listed on their lineup for CS, but who knows what is going to happen as we have lost 702, and 704 still says it's going to be available in a few minutes, but nothing ever shows up.

Now I'm really confused as to what services I'm receiving as I was paying for HD, and now they don't have me on that plan, yet I'm still getting the INHD and HDNET Channels. Must have slipped through the cracks.

Anyone here seeing the HD On Demand via the On Demand Menus? It should HD Movies for rent and also HD movies for the premium OD listings.

BTW, two of their reps tonight didn't even know what On Demand was, they thought I was talking about the HD 700 channels. I give up. Rant mode off.

royrose
01-07-07, 11:44 PM
Anyone else having audio issues with the Jets/Pats game? I'm watching it on comcast and am getting a lot of pops and audio loss. I got the same on KKTV-DT over the air, so it was not Comcast's fault. It was either a network or a KKTV problem.

Roy

BoltzNBrew
01-08-07, 08:22 PM
I got the same on KKTV-DT over the air, so it was not Comcast's fault. It was either a network or a KKTV problem.

Roy


Same here with a OTA antenna. I am also experiencing intermittent sound outages on FOX 21. Seems to be more when watching live games than anything else. It's very annoying but I'm not sure if it's my Tivo DVR, OTA antenna or FOX.

2cats1dog
01-08-07, 09:50 PM
Wow, glad I didn't waste my time on hold... I might try tomorrow though. I need answers!

I don't have any HD on demand listings yet, either. I *assume* they will come when TNT-HD and PBS Kids Sprout are added...

Oh, I do recall reading in the Gazette last month that much more On Demand was coming "sometime next month" so I guess that could be anytime til the end of January.

If we get the On Demand dating stuff, you gotta watch the Viewer Favorites. It's a hoot!

the INHD and HDNET Channels. Must have slipped through the cracks.

Anyone here seeing the HD On Demand via the On Demand Menus? It should HD Movies for rent and also HD movies for the premium OD listings.

BTW, two of their reps tonight didn't even know what On Demand was, they thought I was talking about the HD 700 channels. I give up. Rant mode off.

Bobkbusch
01-09-07, 09:28 AM
Add in a Tivo S3 and you are set :)

I am still curious if anyone here in CS has done cablecards with Comcast using an S3. It seems there is significant pain for many users here.

I've had two Tivo S3 boxes installed. Both times, the tech had never seen one. However, I had printed the instructions from the Tivo website that amplify on the instructions provided with the Tivo packaging. Most important is the part that says you can ignore error 161-4. Had I not known that, the tech would have been stumped. Also, both times, the tech had a bad card, but luckily brought more than two and just swapped for a good card.

Just go to the Tivo website and search support for "cablecard install" and you will find the article I referenced.

jlachanc
01-09-07, 12:44 PM
I've had two Tivo S3 boxes installed. Both times, the tech had never seen one....

You are a former Adelphia customer located on Colo Spgs, correct?

logicman1
01-09-07, 04:03 PM
Anyone have an idea when KKTV will start broadcasting Wheel of Fortune and Jeopard in HD? I thought I heard it would be sometime in January but I couldn't find anything on KKTV's site.

Bobkbusch
01-09-07, 09:38 PM
You are a former Adelphia customer located on Colo Spgs, correct?

Yes...I guess I'm a Comcast customer now.

To answer the original question a little more thoroughly, both of my installs were painless. The techs obviously knew that they had the potential to have a few bad cards and carried extra just in case. Although they hadn't seen an S3 yet, the directions were fairly straightforward and everything went smoothly. Again, make sure you print out the amplified instructions that discuss error 161-4. I've seen stories on another forum where the install got bogged down at that point.

The hardest part of the entire process for me was placing the install order and convincing the Customer Service Agent why I needed two cards for one box.

bzboy
01-09-07, 10:35 PM
Has anyone made a switch from Adelphia/Comcast to DirectTV for their HD content? There is a commercial on from DirectTV stating that their HD content will triple that of cable. I love DiscoveryHD and ESPNHD and would love to get more HD channels.

Oh and is it true that you can only get HD channels on one set per household with cable?

TotallyPreWired
01-09-07, 11:00 PM
There is a commercial on from DirectTV stating that their HD content will triple that of cable.
The keyword is 'will'. A lot of things have to happen right, and a good amount of time will pass before that happens.

In other words they are talking about the future, a best case future. I'd wait till it's available, before I'd make a decision. Rocket launches(and satellites) have been known to fail.
....jc

Rmassey
01-09-07, 11:55 PM
The hardest part of the entire process for me was placing the install order and convincing the Customer Service Agent why I needed two cards for one box.

What is the monthly charge for CCards? Was there an install fee for the CCs. What are you getting from Comcast now in HD on the S3.

thanks for chiming in.

ryttingm
01-10-07, 09:26 AM
I've been thinking about making this switch for over a year now and have finally pulled the trigger. I am dropping qwest/directv for comcast cable/internet + vonage. The change will save me over 50 bucks a month. I am also building my own HTPC that will have 2 analog and 2 OTA HD tuners in it. I am also considering buying a MyHD 130 that can record unencrypted qam off my cable. Has anyone with a qam tuner done a rescan since the switch to Comcast to see what channels are available. Previously with adelphia many of the HD stations like ESPNHD, Discovery HD, and Altitude HD were available. I'm curious if this is still the case and if it is worthwhile purchasing the qam tuner card.

RockyMountainD
01-10-07, 02:38 PM
I've been thinking about making this switch for over a year now and have finally pulled the trigger. I am dropping qwest/directv for comcast cable/internet + vonage. The change will save me over 50 bucks a month. I am also building my own HTPC that will have 2 analog and 2 OTA HD tuners in it. I am also considering buying a MyHD 130 that can record unencrypted qam off my cable. Has anyone with a qam tuner done a rescan since the switch to Comcast to see what channels are available. Previously with adelphia many of the HD stations like ESPNHD, Discovery HD, and Altitude HD were available. I'm curious if this is still the case and if it is worthwhile purchasing the qam tuner card.

I scanned this week and those are still unencrypted (as were the local digital stations). Seemingly random SD stations were also available: Lifetime Movie Network, ESPN College Hoops Gameplan channels, ESPN in Spanish, one or two of the movie channels and all the music channels.

I've heard Comcast will be encrypting soon, but who knows.

RockyMountainD
01-10-07, 02:41 PM
Has anyone made a switch from Adelphia/Comcast to DirectTV for their HD content? There is a commercial on from DirectTV stating that their HD content will triple that of cable. I love DiscoveryHD and ESPNHD and would love to get more HD channels.

Talked to a local Comcast employee said they're getting "25 HD channels" soon along with HD VOD. Don't know when "soon" is or if they're including the locals.

Oh and is it true that you can only get HD channels on one set per household with cable?

No.

RockyMountainD
01-10-07, 03:17 PM
I had a lot more trouble with the Moxi box with Adelphia then I have had with the Moto. The Moxi box is twice as big too which was a rather eye sore for me. The user interface with both boxes, imo, both had pros and cons. But overall I'm a lot more happy with the Moto.

Picked up a 6412 II from the office on Monday and took it back today. I must have gotten a "bad unit", cause it had to be the most dysfunctional piece of A/V equipment I've ever used. First recording I attempted was corrupted, live TV pause and rewind stopped working within 24 hours, and I think I encountered every bug listed on the 9,000 + post Comcast 6412 thread :)

Reading that thread is scary (knowing that most users who have no problems don't post). Seems as if hard boots, HDD formats and systems resets are just what one does with this unit to keep it working. The number of user workarounds are incredible! Makes the MOXI complaints (mostly drive space and slow interface) seem very mild in comparison. (And I have no illusions that I got lucky with my MOXI. I think I've reset it twice in almost 2 years of use, never missed a recording, etc.)

I'm going to give it one more shot with a Phase III box. Has an extra fan, better analog picture and an HDMI port (which might or might not work). Still no native passthrough though :( Also, the Tivo interface is about to be released for this box. I think it's $5/month. Gotta be worth it to get rid of iGuide.

bzboy
01-10-07, 04:32 PM
RockyMountainD

If I get 2 moxi boxes then I will be able to view HD channels on two sets - one in main living room and 1 in bedroom???

RockyMountainD
01-10-07, 04:48 PM
RockyMountainD

If I get 2 moxi boxes then I will be able to view HD channels on two sets - one in main living room and 1 in bedroom???

If both are HD TVs, then yes :) Both would have the ability to record two shows at once, watch one channel while recording another, etc.

But Comcast doesn't lease the MOXI boxes (Motorola BMC90xx) anymore. New customers get the 6412; mostly Phase II, with a limited supply of Phase IIIs.

Depending on the package you have, the boxes will cost anywhere from $12 - $19/month. If I understand the new pricing structure, an SD converter is included in their higher-end packages, so you'd get a credit if you "upgraded" to an HD DVR. The 2nd DVR could run as much as $18/month. Also, they no longer charge for an "HD package", but it's included in the price of HD receivers (DVR and non-DVR models). I spoke to a rep yesterday at length about the new pricing structure, but got a headache :)

BTW, the rep was right here in Colorado Springs. Guess they got their call center up last month. Nice to speak to a local.

Rmassey
01-10-07, 05:13 PM
Re: boxes will cost anywhere from $12 - $19/month.

I read somewhere online recently that Comcast revenues for DVR (perhaps STB+DVR) are in excess of $74M/mo or $880M/yr. OMG, that's some serious bank just for reoccurring rental fees, not including the monthly package content.

I am he!! bent on reducing any/all unnecessary monthly fees possible. I kinda think that Ccast and I will not be doing any business past broadband in the near future.

RockyMountainD
01-10-07, 05:29 PM
Re: boxes will cost anywhere from $12 - $19/month.

I read somewhere online recently that Comcast revenues for DVR (perhaps STB+DVR) are in excess of $74M/mo or $880M/yr. OMG, that's some serious bank just for reoccurring rental fees, not including the monthly package content.

I am he!! bent on reducing any/all unnecessary monthly fees possible. I kinda think that Ccast and I will not be doing any business past broadband in the near future.

Yeah, I go back and forth. On the one hand, the monthly fees are crazy, but on the other, the Tivo service alone for the Series3 is $13-$19 month unless you prepay $200-$300 upfront, plus the $600-$700 for a single box.

Oh how I miss the simpler times of SD only and VCRs :)

Bobkbusch
01-10-07, 09:54 PM
What is the monthly charge for CCards? Was there an install fee for the CCs. What are you getting from Comcast now in HD on the S3.

thanks for chiming in.

I honestly don't know. I just tried to view my Comcast bill online, but couldn't log on. From memory, Adelphia quoted me approx. $4.75/month for the first card and $1.50 for the second. However, the second box was installed by Comcast and they quoted me $1.50 for the first card and $4.75 for the second. Doesn't make sense. I've been waiting until I get my first Comcast bill to sort it out. A friend was quoted $1.50 for each card! Who knows...

The install fee was "free" from Adelphia, but Comcast charged $15.

Again, from memory (I'm not home to verify), I receive local NBC, PBS, CBS, ABC, FOX, Discovery HD, ESPN HD, HDNet, and HDNet Movies.

I bought a projector from Integrity Home Theater and my sales rep said he liked the HD quality better on Comcast than on his DirecTV box. I didn't compare.

Also, just learned of a new box from Moxi. The Moxi Home Cinema Edition HD DMR.
It's getting rave reviews in CES '07 coverage here: http://www.avguide.com/news/2007/01/10/ces07-moxis-digital-recorder-is-tivo-on-steroids/

stuebe
01-10-07, 11:43 PM
Does anyone know what is going on with KOAA and KKTV late night?

Their morning and prime-time is still in HD, but Leno/Conan and Letterman have been SD for awhile now (don't know about every night, since I don't watch 100% of the time), but everytime I've tuned in for the last couple weeks.

Thoughts?

Rmassey
01-11-07, 08:57 AM
Thanks for the info Bob

It appears Comcast is all over the road with various fees and currently it looks like the same content from D*.

bzboy
01-11-07, 03:46 PM
Thanks RockyMountainD

RockyMountainD
01-11-07, 04:10 PM
Thanks RockyMountainD

No problem. Let me know how it goes (what models you get, settings used, etc.).

RMD

Digital Man
01-11-07, 06:53 PM
Speaking of Comcast & Moxi, I suspect this means that Moxi's days are numbered for us Comcast (former Adelphia) customers:

http://ces.engadget.com/2007/01/08/comcast-showing-off-tivo-powered-dvr/

Guy

TallGuy
01-11-07, 08:18 PM
http://www.koaa.com/info/#HDTV
From KOAA and HDTV - Updated 01-11-07

As of 12:30 P.M. on 01-11-07, KOAA-DT is on the air at 100%. NBC TODAY SHOW and PRIMETIME will be broadcast in HD but "Late Night" will still be broadcast in SD TFN, due to a delay server problem. Last outage on 01-11-07 from 03:48 A.M. to 12:30 P.M. 8 1/2 hours.
I figured they had a server problem - I really missed The Office in HD last week and all the SD for Leno.

I think KKTV has been HD for Letterman most of the time, but they still screw up sometimes. Also KKTV has been downgraded in the always exciting TallGuy signature due to lip-sync issues.

RockyMountainD
01-12-07, 09:50 AM
Speaking of Comcast & Moxi, I suspect this means that Moxi's days are numbered for us Comcast (former Adelphia) customers:

http://ces.engadget.com/2007/01/08/comcast-showing-off-tivo-powered-dvr/

Guy

Yeah, I'll be interested in this for sure. Now that I have what appears to be a working 6412 Phase III box, my issues revolve mainly around the iGuide interface. Whereas the Tivo and MOXI software was built for DVRs, iGuide is nothing more than the old digital cable box guide with DVR functions added on.

At $5/month though, it'll bring my leased DVR charges to around $17 for the first unit and $23 for the 2nd :(

BoltzNBrew
01-12-07, 10:32 AM
Same here with a OTA antenna. I am also experiencing intermittent sound outages on FOX 21. Seems to be more when watching live games than anything else. It's very annoying but I'm not sure if it's my Tivo DVR, OTA antenna or FOX.

It was my TIVO box. Downloaded patch 6.3b and it took care of the sound issue.

bobandkel
01-12-07, 04:18 PM
It was my TIVO box. Downloaded patch 6.3b and it took care of the sound issue.
How do you download a patch actively? I'm getting cutouts too.

Regards,

Bob

eichenberg
01-12-07, 05:23 PM
It was my TIVO box. Downloaded patch 6.3b and it took care of the sound issue.

This issue is talked about extensivley over on tivocommunity.com in the HD Tivo powered by Direct TV section. It is an issue with the 6.3a file and Fox OTA. We are not the only ones to see this issue. It is happening all over the country. To get a download you have to force a daily call, but the download will only happen if your box has been initialized to recieve the download. How this happens I am not sure. But, i have been forcing a daily call for 2 weeks now everyday and have not received 6.3b. The rumor over on tivocommunity is that all box are suppose to be updated to 6.3b by 1/13. Only time will tell.

TallGuy
01-12-07, 06:42 PM
How many people here have the new DirecTV HR20 MPEG4 box? Probably not too many since the HD locals aren't up on the satellite yet for Colorado Springs, but I'm sure there are some.

I'd really like to know if DirecTV carries Altitude HD games in the Colorado Springs market or whether they still haven't gotten a clue and activated the Colorado Springs market. In the Denver market, the HR20 gets the games on 97 - not 24 hours a day Altitude HD, but at least during Nuggets HD games (which are generally home games from the Pepsi Center) from Altitude. Of course, being that we are in an Altitude region, we should get it too, but as of a month ago a friend told me that it wasn't on here yet.

Can some of you check your HR20 tonight on channel 97 between 8:30 and 11:00 pm? Apparently the guide data isn't always right, so you can't tell from that, but if you tune to 97 I hope it's on in HD. Let me know here; thanks in advance.

Vito HD
01-12-07, 06:49 PM
I live on the north side of the Springs (Powers & Union) and have not had any HD reception for about a month now. Before, I was getting 5, 11, 13, 21, and the Tube. Under the menu selection on my TV the "Digital Signal" reads Normal but my TV flashes "No Signal". I went out and replaced the digital antenna but I still have the same problem. I need help before the games this weekend, please!!!

TotallyPreWired
01-12-07, 07:03 PM
I live on the north side of the Springs (Powers & Union) and have not had any HD reception for about a month now. Before, I was getting 5, 11, 13, 21, and the Tube. Under the menu selection on my TV the "Digital Signal" reads Normal but my TV flashes "No Signal". I went out and replaced the digital antenna but I still have the same problem. I need help before the games this weekend, please!!!
Try testing your antenna with another receiver/TV. The TV doesn't even need to have an ATSC tuner, just see if it can pick up UHF 30(of 5/30 fame) or Fox 21.

It's pretty simple, you should be able to receive Cheyenne Mtn broadcasts from your location, so it's either the Antenna or the receiver.
....jc

Vito HD
01-12-07, 08:13 PM
I am now receiving the signal. There was a video game plugged into one of the video inputs behind the TV. I guess this was somehow interfering with the signal.

zeldor
01-12-07, 08:22 PM
if you believe their web page according to springs zip codes all HD show on
altitude are blocked.

How many people here have the new DirecTV HR20 MPEG4 box? Probably not too many since the HD locals aren't up on the satellite yet for Colorado Springs, but I'm sure there are some.

I'd really like to know if DirecTV carries Altitude HD games in the Colorado Springs market or whether they still haven't gotten a clue and activated the Colorado Springs market. In the Denver market, the HR20 gets the games on 97 - not 24 hours a day Altitude HD, but at least during Nuggets HD games (which are generally home games from the Pepsi Center) from Altitude. Of course, being that we are in an Altitude region, we should get it too, but as of a month ago a friend told me that it wasn't on here yet.

Can some of you check your HR20 tonight on channel 97 between 8:30 and 11:00 pm? Apparently the guide data isn't always right, so you can't tell from that, but if you tune to 97 I hope it's on in HD. Let me know here; thanks in advance.

stuebe
01-12-07, 08:30 PM
Here is the list that Comcast sent to me today:

701 - Altitude Sports and Entertainment Networ (ALTSPRT)
704 - In Demand HDPV Special Events (PPVHDSE)
705 - KOAADT (KOAA-DT) (KOAADT)
708 - KTSCDT (KTSC-DT) (KTSCDT)
711 - KKTVDT (KKTV-DT) (KKTVDT)
713 - KRDODT (KRDO-DT) (KRDODT)
721 - KXRMDT (KXRM-DT) (KXRMDT)
733 - ESPNHD (ESPNHD)
734 - ESPN2 HD (ESPN2HD)
735 - TNTHD (TNT-HD) (TNTHD)
746 - Discovery HD Theater (DHD)
750 - Home Box Office Digital (HBOHD)
751 - Showtime Digital (SHOWHD)
752 - STARZ! High Definition (STARZHD)
754 - HDNet (HDNET)
755 - HDNet Movies (HDNETMV)

They are still listing 754 and 755, thank goodness! Supposed to go into action 1 Feb for 734/735.

zeldor
01-12-07, 08:33 PM
new channels in HD:
so there was an announcement recently about a few channels going to start a new HD
simulcast, the I care about being SciFi. Now the announcement led me to think it was ONLY going to be on directv. cable and dish were not eligible to show it. does anyone know if this is true or am I reading something in there that isnt true.
(was announced at CES )

TallGuy
01-12-07, 09:42 PM
if you believe their web page according to springs zip codes all HD show on
altitude are blocked.
What web page? It's not on Altitude's site. If you mean DirecTV's, then that could be, but it could still be there and be wrong. How could they have to provide Altitude-SD to this market and not Altitude-HD?

If it's still off now, it seems it has to be a screwup and maybe calling Altitude to get them to push DirecTV could be a lot more effective than calling D* and talking to a first-level CSR.

Snuffy101
01-13-07, 11:28 AM
new channels in HD:
so there was an announcement recently about a few channels going to start a new HD
simulcast, the I care about being SciFi. Now the announcement led me to think it was ONLY going to be on directv. cable and dish were not eligible to show it. does anyone know if this is true or am I reading something in there that isnt true.
(was announced at CES )
There are rumors or maybe just hype, that D* will add a new HD Tier of 100 HD Channels by the end of the year. This is predicated on their new satellites getting into orbit without blowing up. Let’s see, I’m paying $10/mo. for 7.5 HD channels now, what will the new tier cost? Scary! :eek:

TotallyPreWired
01-13-07, 12:43 PM
There are rumors or maybe just hype, that D* will add a new HD Tier of 100 HD Channels by the end of the year. This is predicated on their new satellites getting into orbit without blowing up. Let’s see, I’m paying $10/mo. for 7.5 HD channels now, what will the new tier cost? Scary! :eek:
I dunno. Since digital (not necessarily HD) broadcasts are the future, you have to figure that their analog(even though digitally broadcast) channels have a limited lifetime. In 766 days, there won't be any analog OTA broadcasts(in the USA).

I figure that they'll milk the profits while they can. Once the other providers catch up, the prices will stabilize and maybe even come down. I would expect that sometime after the analog shutdown for D* to eliminate SD all together.
....jc

BoltzNBrew
01-13-07, 05:05 PM
Watching the NFL IND@BAL, anyone else getting a loud click and immediate degraded sound on CBS? This is the same thing that was happening last week.

zeldor
01-13-07, 05:16 PM
yes but I had thought it was my stereo recv'r acting up again.
good to know its not my hardware I guess..

Watching the NFL IND@BAL, anyone else getting a loud click and immediate degraded sound on CBS? This is the same thing that was happening last week.

TotallyPreWired
01-13-07, 05:17 PM
Watching the NFL IND@BAL, anyone else getting a loud click and immediate degraded sound on CBS? This is the same thing that was happening last week.
Watching the game out of LA via D*, nope.
....jc

BoltzNBrew
01-13-07, 05:25 PM
yes but I had thought it was my stereo recv'r acting up again.
good to know its not my hardware I guess..

Sad thing is this is the 2nd week in a row this is happening on CBS and the Superbowl is on CBS as well. I'm guessing it's the local stations broadcast.

TotallyPreWired
01-13-07, 05:52 PM
For grins, I watched several minutes of the game from KGWN(Cheyenne). They are famous for sound problems. They had decent audio. So, it looks like it's all on KKTV.
....jc

logicman1
01-13-07, 09:07 PM
Watching the NFL IND@BAL, anyone else getting a loud click and immediate degraded sound on CBS? This is the same thing that was happening last week.

Yes, I saw some of the game via OTA antenna and I got the same sound drop/degradation you've described.

eddie_d_lopez
01-14-07, 11:53 AM
KKTV-DT audio problems, KOAA-DT late night HD programming MIA (SNL) last night... when will all the locals get there acts together, at least for a month or two.

BoltzNBrew
01-14-07, 04:46 PM
Damn, it's happening again. I sent KKTV an email, doubt they will read it though.

RJO
01-14-07, 05:14 PM
Anybody think that KKTV ch 11 will get their video and audio problem fixed before the superbowl? They have had nothing but problems since they decided to multicast and don't seem interested in fixing. Also what happened to KOAA ch 5 audio? It used to be in dolby 5.1 but the last couple of times I watched, the audio is very strange and it is not 5.1.

ryttingm
01-14-07, 11:17 PM
KRDO down tonight? My wife is giving me grief because desperate housewives did not record. as of 9:15 pm KRDO was still down and all the other channels seem to be broadcasting just fine. Any others seeing issues with channel 13?

Frank Zimkas
01-14-07, 11:28 PM
No KRDO signal for me either.

TallGuy
01-14-07, 11:35 PM
My "5th generation" tuner in my OnAir HDTV GT is getting KRDO at only 13-14 db, which is only enough for a major stuttering signal. I'm sure my HD-TiVo would not lock onto this at all as that is an older ATSC tuner. So their signal is on, but just barely - not enough to do everyone any good.

You might be able to catch the ABC shows on abc.com - I think they're free there, just not exactly big screen or HD. Then there's always bit torrent.

As far as KKTV's audio problems, it's fine to send an email but who knows how many they get and whether they're read. I know some may disagree, but it doesn't hurt to call their Engineering department and talk to someone during regular work hours. If several of us called this week about it, they might re-prioritize the backlog of stuff they have to work on. You're right, they need to start troubleshooting now to try to fix stuff before the Superbowl in 3 weeks. Worst case, you waste 1 to 5 minutes. Their number is 634-2844.

TotallyPreWired
01-14-07, 11:53 PM
As far as KKTV's audio problems, it's fine to send an email but who knows how many they get and whether they're read.
The real scary thing, is that if they don't already know.

Think about it. :confused:
....jc

ryttingm
01-14-07, 11:53 PM
Unfortunately I just brought up a new HTPC this weekend so naturally my wife blamed this for missing the recording. I have 2 Vbox DTA-150 HD OTA tuners and everything has worked flawlessly until now :( I must say that I am "extremely" happy with the new HTPC. I think the interface is superior to my TIVO interface I've had for over 4 years and I love the ability to record 4 things at the same time :). I love having my music, pictures, tv, and dvd's centralized into a single home theater box. I also save over 60 bucks a month going with analog cable + OTA HD + vonage than my qwest/directv configuration I've had until now.

TallGuy
01-15-07, 01:32 AM
The real scary thing, is that if they don't already know.

Think about it. :confused:
....jc
I know, you're right! I wish all our local affiliates took a major amount of pride in their HD offerings and their HDTV investment, and monitored it constantly. Maybe someday...

I do get the general feeling from the engineers I've talked to at the various affiliates that they're overwhelmed, understaffed, underfunded, etc. and each day get to choose what to tackle from a ton of projects that all need to be done yesterday. (They don't exactly say this, but imply it.)

But for now, we should demand better...

chanceG
01-15-07, 09:28 AM
I think the interface is superior to my TIVO interface I've had for over 4 years

Now that's saying something. What interface are you using? MythTV?

Unless DTV releases a MPEG4 TiVo (unlikely), it's to TiVo/cable or HTPC I will go. The cruddy provider manufactured set-top box is the reason I dumped E* for DTV TiVo years ago. Now it's happening all over again. :(

mrtolles
01-15-07, 11:15 AM
@ the CES, Tivo and Comcast showcased there new service for cable in which you download Tivo software onto your current cable DVR. They showed it on the Moto 6412 and it is stated to suppress your current software, guide data and all, and use Tivo's interface. It will still have the HD and VOD capability of your cable box but this also will be Tivo's interface. There is also a Tivo Remote that you can get that will add a VOD button. It should be available in the spring.

I did not see anything about if there will be price for the download nor how much the monthly service will cost. I would also wonder how much hard drive space it would take up, as it seams the old software will still be on the DVR, just suppressed. But for those Tivo fans out there, this may be the solution to that BIG price tag on the Series 3.

ryttingm
01-15-07, 12:44 PM
Now that's saying something. What interface are you using? MythTV?


I am using just microsoft MCE. I got the DVRMSToolbox up and running yesterday and it is great. After each show is finished recording it analyzes the show and creates a commercial skip file for each show. While you are watching the show it will automatically skip the commercials. It worked flawlessly for 24 last night.

chanceG
01-15-07, 01:06 PM
I am using just microsoft MCE.

OK, thanks. Interesting.

coloradobrad
01-15-07, 02:19 PM
Is there a place in town that carries a decent selection of OTA antennas?

Thanks!
Brad

TallGuy
01-15-07, 09:26 PM
I am using just microsoft MCE. I got the DVRMSToolbox up and running yesterday and it is great. After each show is finished recording it analyzes the show and creates a commercial skip file for each show. While you are watching the show it will automatically skip the commercials. It worked flawlessly for 24 last night.
Can you tell us in a nutshell about DVRMSToolbox? Cost? Is it an easy install or something real technical? Does it find any connected HD tuner and download guide data from the Internet? I should just google it already. Is the best link the one at download.com (CNET)?

TallGuy
01-15-07, 10:09 PM
Looks like the KRDO signal is stronger tonight.

jdelo24
01-16-07, 12:07 AM
Hi. I am wondering if anyone is having similar problems as I am with FOX-21 digital broadcast.

I am using a FusionHDTV5 USB tuner with the latest drivers installed. Also, I am using the antenna that the tuner was packaged. According to antennaweb, my location is 18 miles from the tower so I adjust my antenna and I receive an 80% signal.

My problem is when the broadcast switches from commercial back to 24, both my sound and video stop. I have to restart my FusionHDTV program and it will return to normal. Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks.

ryttingm
01-16-07, 12:48 AM
Can you tell us in a nutshell about DVRMSToolbox? Cost? Is it an easy install or something real technical? Does it find any connected HD tuner and download guide data from the Internet? I should just google it already. Is the best link the one at download.com (CNET)?

DVRMSToolbox is a plugin for microsoft MCE. The best website out there for information on microsoft MCE is http://www.thegreenbutton.com. On the forums there you will find out all sorts of information about the different plugins for MCE. The best place to download the plugin is here.

http://babgvant.com/files/folders/dvrmstoolbox/default.aspx

And here is a wiki that describes the installation in MCE.

http://bluwiki.com/go/DVRMSToolbox_User_Guide

Now for the interesting part. DVRMSToolbox is the plugin for MCE that automates the commercial skip analyzing and application. The tool that actually does the analysis and generates the skip file is one of 2 tools. 1 is ComSkip which is free and works reasonably well. The other is ShowAnalyzer which is considered the best tool out there. The cost for the full version of ShowAnalyzer is only 10 bucks which is necessary for processing DVRMS (Microsofts own mpeg2 format it uses to store recordings.) You may be able to get away with the free version of ShowAnalyzer. ShowAnalyzer does not need microsoft MCE to run.

Here's the website for ShowAnalyzer.

http://www.dragonglobal.org/showanalyzer.htm

TallGuy
01-16-07, 01:50 AM
Thanks! Will be interesting to play around with. Might push me towards getting a flat-panel TV (not just a 19" monitor) in the bedroom near the MCE PC.

blackiedog
01-16-07, 01:47 PM
I recently purchased a Sony 32" LCD. I have had problems with scanning digital channels over Comcast cable. It misses two HD channels (that I know about!): 104.3 (CBS) and 113.2 (NBC). I can tune the channels manually just fine. Anyway, after some time on the the phone with Sony they suggested I exchange the unit. The second Sony had the same problem. After a bit of experimentation using a variable RF attenuator I debuked Sony's theory that the two HD channels were missed because of a lower signal level - the missed channels had approximately the same signal level as the found channels.

Anybody else have problems with scan functions missing stations? Any theories to what is going on?

beatboy77
01-16-07, 02:13 PM
Is there a place in town that carries a decent selection of OTA antennas?

Thanks!
Brad


Brad,

Pretty much any of the B&M Stores have a decent slection (Bestbuy, Circuit City, Radio Shack & Ultimate Electronics).

~Josh

logicman1
01-16-07, 09:55 PM
I recently purchased a Sony 32" LCD. I have had problems with scanning digital channels over Comcast cable. It misses two HD channels (that I know about!): 104.3 (CBS) and 113.2 (NBC). I can tune the channels manually just fine. Anyway, after some time on the the phone with Sony they suggested I exchange the unit. The second Sony had the same problem. After a bit of experimentation using a variable RF attenuator I debuked Sony's theory that the two HD channels were missed because of a lower signal level - the missed channels had approximately the same signal level as the found channels.

Anybody else have problems with scan functions missing stations? Any theories to what is going on?

Blackiedog,

I have a Sony 32" XBR1 that had no trouble finding all of the OTA stations via antenna. If your set found some, but not all of the cable stations, then I'm not sure where the problem is -- are you sure that some of the channels weren't offline at the time you tried the scan but were there when you tried manually?

zeldor
01-17-07, 07:50 AM
finally got around to checking but my dish pvr recorded desperate housewifes just
fine this past sunday. so my OTA signal was not affected.

KRDO down tonight? My wife is giving me grief because desperate housewives did not record. as of 9:15 pm KRDO was still down and all the other channels seem to be broadcasting just fine. Any others seeing issues with channel 13?

blackiedog
01-17-07, 12:03 PM
logicman1,

I did a separate scan of the OTA stations. It seemed to find all those just fine. As far as the cable scan - I did a number of scans and I am sure the suspect stations were on line at the time.

coloradobrad
01-17-07, 12:25 PM
Brad,

Pretty much any of the B&M Stores have a decent slection (Bestbuy, Circuit City, Radio Shack & Ultimate Electronics).

~Josh


Thanks Josh. Of the B&M you listed, Ultimate Electronics has the best selection. I was hoping to find a local place that carries channel master antennas though. Like the CM 4228. Any ideas?

coloradobrad
01-17-07, 12:33 PM
I'm sick off my HR20 DVR! The OTA dropouts caused by trickplay functions are killing me. Any of you locals have a Directv HR10 for sale?

RockyMountainD
01-17-07, 02:46 PM
Noticed HDNet and HDNet Movies were gone from both HD DVRs today. Called in and was told that they're being replaced by ESPN2 and TNT-HD, although neither are showing as valid channels. I was told that by the end of today, they should be listed.

I welcome the 2 new channels, but will miss the recently departed :(

Comcast is touting 25 HD channels for the Springs soon, but by my count, I'm down 1 since last Fall (INHD2).

ryttingm
01-17-07, 03:57 PM
Thanks Josh. Of the B&M you listed, Ultimate Electronics has the best selection. I was hoping to find a local place that carries channel master antennas though. Like the CM 4228. Any ideas?

The best place to get yagis is either radio shack or home depot/lowes. I got my channelmaster from lowes.

2cats1dog
01-17-07, 04:58 PM
Wow. It finally happened (HDNet and HDNet Movies going away) I am SO bummed. Mark Cuban has just GOT to get a contract with Comcast worked out. Today has been a really crappy day today.

734 and 735 are indeed showing ESPN2 (SD stuff) and TNT-HD (5 year old reruns of the witch show from the WB). I like more HD stuff being added but I'll trade back for the old ones anyday if it's either/or. sigh... One step forward and one step back. :confused:

Noticed HDNet and HDNet Movies were gone from both HD DVRs today. Called in and was told that they're being replaced by ESPN2 and TNT-HD, although neither are showing as valid channels. I was told that by the end of today, they should be listed.

sabaranski
01-17-07, 07:40 PM
I'm sick off my HR20 DVR! The OTA dropouts caused by trickplay functions are killing me. Any of you locals have a Directv HR10 for sale?

I don't have an HR10, but I do have an extra H10 (the HD non-DVR) that was replaced with the 250 (HD Tivo) I got last spring. If that appeals to you at all, send me an e-mail offer to sabaranski@hotmail.com.

cdb
01-17-07, 09:16 PM
Thanks Josh. Of the B&M you listed, Ultimate Electronics has the best selection. I was hoping to find a local place that carries channel master antennas though. Like the CM 4228. Any ideas?


Some months ago, I bought the Channel Master 4228 from Bob Scruggs at the Sound Shop.

pg_rider
01-17-07, 10:09 PM
Can't believe we lost the HD Nets.... :(

Is there ever anything good on TNT HD? ESPN 2 doesn't really interest me...

springsHD=Horrid
01-17-07, 10:16 PM
Boo on losing the HDNets!!! :mad:

Rmassey
01-17-07, 11:43 PM
TNT-HD is a joke. more than half of the movies are stretch-O-vision and look like crap. I had (canceled last week) it on the D* HD pkg.

The only HD channels of value on D* were HDNet, HDNet movies and Discovery HD - still not enough for me to pay $10/mo.

Too bad about Comcast HD, but it makes my decision very easy if I ever get an S3, to just stick with OTA HD.

TallGuy
01-18-07, 01:13 AM
No love from KKTV-HD at all tonight in the 9:00 hour or the Letterman hour... and the HD server at KOAA must still be dead - lots of SD Leno for quite a while now... our local affiliates are slipping again...

For the cable folks: getting TNT-HD, you will never miss a stretched Law & Order again...no DVR necessary...

eddie_d_lopez
01-18-07, 10:03 AM
as far as TNT-HD, it's not all that bad. there is NBA covergae and a decent selection of movies. a few weeks ago, all three LOTR were shown in glrorious HD, albeit not OAR. over the past couple years, they have been gradually showing more HD content and less of the distorted stuff.

Deuterium
01-18-07, 05:24 PM
Is anyone on Comcast actually getting TNTHD and ESPN2 right now? I see them on my list but I'm not getting them. I called Comcast and they said the channels haven't been "turned on yet."

mrtolles
01-18-07, 05:33 PM
Is anyone on Comcast actually getting TNTHD and ESPN2 right now? I see them on my list but I'm not getting them. I called Comcast and they said the channels haven't been "turned on yet."


I got them, watched them last night, but still have no guide data. When i first checked yesterday, it was 58 after what ever hour, so the next slot of "Information Not Available" (or whatever it says) was displayed and so i could not tune to the channel. I had to make sure i was on the current time slot to watch. Have not turned them on today though.

I just called Comcast to switch my premium channel, they offered me a promotion for 2 premiums for $13 less then i was paying for the 1 for the next 6 months. Comcast charges $1.99 for changes to your service though.

M_A_C
01-19-07, 01:01 AM
I figured they had a server problem - I really missed The Office in HD last week and all the SD for Leno.

I think KKTV has been HD for Letterman most of the time, but they still screw up sometimes. Also KKTV has been downgraded in the always exciting TallGuy signature due to lip-sync issues.

Are the ever going to get the sound synced up???

RockyMountainD
01-19-07, 08:23 AM
as far as TNT-HD, it's not all that bad. there is NBA covergae and a decent selection of movies. a few weeks ago, all three LOTR were shown in glrorious HD, albeit not OAR. over the past couple years, they have been gradually showing more HD content and less of the distorted stuff.

Mavs/Lakers looked pretty good last night :)

RockyMountainD
01-19-07, 08:25 AM
Is anyone on Comcast actually getting TNTHD and ESPN2 right now? I see them on my list but I'm not getting them. I called Comcast and they said the channels haven't been "turned on yet."

No problems with either of my Moto DVRs (6412 PIII & BMC9012). Both had signal on Wednesday and full guide data within 24 hours.

bzboy
01-19-07, 12:12 PM
Regarding ESPN2-HD and TNT-HD on comcast, do those channels cost extra? or do i need to call in to get them?

RockyMountainD
01-19-07, 12:40 PM
Regarding ESPN2-HD and TNT-HD on comcast, do those channels cost extra? or do i need to call in to get them?

With Comcast, if you're leasing an HD receiver (DVR or non-DVR), you should get all the HD channels. The $5 extra you pay for the HD receiver covers them. The only exception is Starz-HD, HBO-HD and Showtime-HD; you must subscribe to those in order to get them in HD.

gman76
01-19-07, 03:28 PM
Here is the list that Comcast sent to me today:

701 - Altitude Sports and Entertainment Networ (ALTSPRT)
704 - In Demand HDPV Special Events (PPVHDSE)
705 - KOAADT (KOAA-DT) (KOAADT)
708 - KTSCDT (KTSC-DT) (KTSCDT)
711 - KKTVDT (KKTV-DT) (KKTVDT)
713 - KRDODT (KRDO-DT) (KRDODT)
721 - KXRMDT (KXRM-DT) (KXRMDT)
733 - ESPNHD (ESPNHD)
734 - ESPN2 HD (ESPN2HD)
735 - TNTHD (TNT-HD) (TNTHD)
746 - Discovery HD Theater (DHD)
750 - Home Box Office Digital (HBOHD)
751 - Showtime Digital (SHOWHD)
752 - STARZ! High Definition (STARZHD)
754 - HDNet (HDNET)
755 - HDNet Movies (HDNETMV)

They are still listing 754 and 755, thank goodness! Supposed to go into action 1 Feb for 734/735.
Does anyone know if a QAM tuner card receives all of the above channels? Are all these HD? Some are non-HD? I understand that most (all?) QAM tuner cards decode QAM 64 (non-HD?) and 256 (HD?). I'd rather not deal with and not pay for a STB and use my HTPC as my tivo/dvr.

Deuterium
01-19-07, 05:47 PM
With Comcast, if you're leasing an HD receiver (DVR or non-DVR), you should get all the HD channels. The $5 extra you pay for the HD receiver covers them. The only exception is Starz-HD, HBO-HD and Showtime-HD; you must subscribe to those in order to get them in HD.

Does that include ?

701 - Altitude Sports and Entertainment Networ (ALTSPRT)

RJO
01-19-07, 06:59 PM
I watched 2 hours of CBS, KKTV 11, last night and I did not notice any video/audio breakups. The audio was not 5.1 DD but 2.0 instead. We will have to see if it contiues.

bzboy
01-19-07, 08:19 PM
With Comcast, if you're leasing an HD receiver (DVR or non-DVR), you should get all the HD channels. The $5 extra you pay for the HD receiver covers them. The only exception is Starz-HD, HBO-HD and Showtime-HD; you must subscribe to those in order to get them in HD.


Well I just spoke to Comcast customer service and the guy told me that they are not offering ESPN2-HD and TNT-HD. I told him that I see those channels on the channel lists on the MOXI but he said that is a mistake and that they will be taking it off the channel listing. Does that sound correct??

I do have new channels 122 - pbs sprout and 123 tv one. pbssprout works. tvone doesnt

RockyMountainD
01-20-07, 10:20 AM
Does that include ?

701 - Altitude Sports and Entertainment Networ (ALTSPRT)

Yes, but 701 is INHD1. They switch to Altitude HD when there's a Denver game on Altitude (i.e., Avs or Nuggets).

RockyMountainD
01-20-07, 10:25 AM
Well I just spoke to Comcast customer service and the guy told me that they are not offering ESPN2-HD and TNT-HD. I told him that I see those channels on the channel lists on the MOXI but he said that is a mistake and that they will be taking it off the channel listing. Does that sound correct??

I do have new channels 122 - pbs sprout and 123 tv one. pbssprout works. tvone doesnt

Strange (but not surpising). When I called Wednesday to let them know I wasn't receiving the HDNet channels, I was told as of Wednesday, ESPN2-HD and TNT-HD had replaced them. The HDNets disappeared from the guide and the new channels appeared.

Maybe they're rolling the change out in phases. I see conflicting listings on their website as well. I hope they bring the HDNets back though.

RockyMountainD
01-20-07, 10:29 AM
Does anyone know if a QAM tuner card receives all of the above channels? Are all these HD? Some are non-HD? I understand that most (all?) QAM tuner cards decode QAM 64 (non-HD?) and 256 (HD?). I'd rather not deal with and not pay for a STB and use my HTPC as my tivo/dvr.

IIRC, I got the locals, ESPN-HD and Discovery HD last time I scanned. Haven't tried since they added ESPN2-HD and TNT-HD.

They are all HD in that they broadcast in 1080i or 720p, but not all programs are filmed in HD. In that case, you'll usually see bars on the sides to fill out your 16x9 screen.

bzboy
01-20-07, 02:59 PM
Well more changes i've notice on comcast channel listing on my MOXI. HDnets channels are gone. Altitude HD channel is gone now replaced by InHD (sometime of music?? channel) Tnt-HD and espn2-hd are listed with info but doesnt show. On regular channels M2 which showed old B-movies is gone.

Rmassey
01-20-07, 03:09 PM
I just scanned Comcast on my PC QAM tuner card (MyHD 130) to see if anything has changed for in the clear channels. I get all the locals + ESPN (80-1) and DiscHD(80-2) and all the Music Choice channels on 119(6-30).

The problem is the signal strength is only about 69% and I get a lot of pixelization, whereas OTA is 80-90% for all the locals.

I don't care about ESPN and it's not worth getting DHD with 69% on all the channels. My current PC location only allows for one cable, so I will stick with OTA.

Broadband only customer here but, I also notice that when I hook up Comcast cable to my old Sony TV, I only get channels 71-77 (very Clear) and nothing else. I used to get all the analog channels too. No biggie, it's all junk anyways. :)

springsHD=Horrid
01-20-07, 03:42 PM
What's even the point to having ESPN-2 in HD? Seriously, theres never anything worth watching on it. :mad:

Also I noticed they moved MTV2 from basic channel 98 to one of the extended digitals that you have to pay extra for....not that I'm complaining....I really didn't care for that channel anyways.

Deuterium
01-20-07, 06:47 PM
I finally got ESPN2 and TNTHD to work on Comcast. I had been calling since Wednesday trying to get them to work. After 5 calls, each time I was assured it would work in "a few hours", they sent out a repair guy. He switched boxes and that did the trick. I also now get 701 which I never did in the past. The repair guy said that he had been to 8 houses in the last two days with the same problems. I also noticed that I wasn't getting Military channel anymore. Although it's SD I do watch it on occasion. It seems that Comcast has turned it off and moved it into another tier. Wonderful.

bzboy
01-20-07, 10:13 PM
Deuterium - Are you saying that to get ESPN2-HD (for the awesome table tennis action) and TNT-HD I need to call comcast again and what exactly do i say??

Deuterium
01-21-07, 12:04 PM
Deuterium - Are you saying that to get ESPN2-HD (for the awesome table tennis action) and TNT-HD I need to call comcast again and what exactly do i say??


I called four times between wednesday and friday night. I confirmed each time that I should be getting these channels with my current package. Each time they reset my box and when that didn't work they said to wait a couple of hours or until 2:00AM. Finally on friday night the lady I spoke too decided to send a repairman. I prefaced the call by saying I was upset and that I hoped she would be the one that could solve the problem. When the repair guy showed up he was familiar with the problem and tried to get the box reset one more time. He was fairly certain he would need to swap the box but he gave it one more try. He was in the house for a total of 15 minutes. From the conversation I had with him he was very upset with the way the transition to Comcast has been going. He said nearly every service call is with an irate customer concerning only problems with the Comcast switch. He further berated the Motorola 6412 box. His list of problems matches wahat you see on the forum. He also said all they get for replacements are used boxes from California. At least once a week he makes return trips to houses that he has installed these "used" boxes in. I did get a 6412 III box this time. It is quieter than the old 6412, at least in my case. He also repeated the rumor that a Tivo box was in the future FWIW.

stuebe
01-21-07, 12:33 PM
Moxi Comcast HD Chat I had...

Good lord, these people are confused (and confusing).

Since they told me a week or so ago that we weren't losing the two HD-NET stations when gaining TNT and ESPN2, but then proceeded to do exactly that, I wanted to try and get some better answers.

No one locally could answer detailed questions, and I ended up getting routed to someone in Texas customer service and this what they said was planned for the Springs (grains of salt included).

Comcast does not contract to carry HDNET stations. Those were a carry over from Adelphia but are apparently gone for good.

They are gearing (with no dates attached, but supposedly in this order) to add Universal HD, Cinemax HD, MTV HD (why???), CW HD, and Foxsports HD (regional). This will not be a zero-sum game (supposedly that was just an artifact of transitioning from Adelphia's to Comcast's contracts). INHD may go away. He didn't know. He said some cities carry it, others don't. He didn't see it listed for us, but since it was already sharing with Altitude (he didn't know that) it may stay that way.

He said that it's not unusual to have programming guide problems with the HD stations. 701 and 708 won't get fixed anytime soon because that's a function of the broadcast side. Nothing Comcast can do, I guess. 734 and 735 should have program guide data by the "roll out" date of 1 Feb. He said we should just be happy we have the signal early, but the official start date for both stations is the 1st. Doesn't help with the Moxi, which won't record them at the moment.

Don't expect VOD HD soon. They have been testing on the east coast since last summer and there have been numerous problems (he mentioned slow loading, loading time outs, pixelation issues, sound issues, sync issues, restarts, etc). He said we should be glad we don't have it yet, because the frustration level has been very high. No date for the Springs.

Those with Moxi boxes get to keep them for now. But if you have a service call on it, kiss it good-bye. The Moto's are the future because they are cheaper (for Comcast) and (according to him) people like them better (specifically the larger disks). He said people eventually "get comfortable" with the user I/F.

He said that once things settle down here (they are VERY focused on the internet cut-over at the moment, locally), that we should see more and more HD content. He said that it will be locally influenced, meaning whatever we petition for, we'll likely get.

He said that it usually works to call customer service, and you can make a request that the service person will log. Those get looked at. Email doesn't. He said they get so many per day that requests for new stations just fall on the floor because someone has to re-enter them in the system (and they have higher priorities). But calling works (we'll see!).

He did caution that Colorado Springs is a mess at the moment. He says that he saw "pages" of issues when he called up our tech reports. He urged me to be patient and that we would ultimately (no date attached!) be happy with Comcast. I don't know what else I'd expect him to say.

Anyway, I had called him to vent, got it out of my system, and then got some okay (though who knows how reliable) information. Figured I'd pass it along. Take it for what it's worth until other folks can confirm.

Snuffy101
01-21-07, 12:39 PM
It looks like Comcast is shooting themselves in the foot or head! From all the complaints and problems noted on this thread, I’d have thrown them over the fence long ago. They need to make a public statement of their intentions and what programming they will carry at what price. Treating their customers like mushrooms is not going to win them any friends in this competitive market. OTA, or D* look pretty good right now.
Snuffy

bzboy
01-21-07, 12:51 PM
This is out of the gazette from saturday.

In the wake of complaints triggered by problems with cable Internet service switching from Adelphia Communications to Comcast, Colorado Springs officials want to take a closer look at Comcast’s customer service.
Comcast bought Adelphia’s local cable and Internet access operations in July and began switching customers over in December.
Complaints ranging from prolonged Internet outages and e-mail problems to billing foul-ups and lengthy waits on customer service calls have been posted on blogs, written as comments on Gazette.com stories and sent in e-mails to news organizations.
The city’s Internal Support Services Department, which oversees Comcast’s cable television franchise, already tracks the company’s customer service for cable customers and warned Comcast in November that it failed in the third quarter to meet standards in its franchise agreement.
Mike Schmidt, chairman of the city’s Telecommunications Policy Advisory Committee, said the company’s service improved marginally during the last three months of 2006.
The city can fine Comcast $200 a day for failing to meet standards, but has not yet imposed fines.
The city has no regulatory authority over Comcast’s Internet operations, but Schmidt said the committee is talking with company officials about tracking customer service for Internet clients to determine whether service is meeting standards.
The city’s cable franchise administration can be reached at 385-5927 or
askcity@springsgov.com.

pg_rider
01-21-07, 02:08 PM
Maybe I'm in the minority but my switchover has been relatively painless. The only snafu was with my billing -- my last payment went to Adelphia when it should have gone to Comcast, even though I was never made aware of it! As far as channels, I've had ESPN2 HD and TNT HD with guide data for four or five days now. Quick question -- is all the stuff on TNT HD in real HD or is it just stretched? A LOT of it looks distorted to me...

As for future channels, bring on MTV HD! I've been dying to have it, as for me there's no better HD than concert and music stuff...

TallGuy
01-21-07, 03:06 PM
TNT-HD - some is stretchovision upconvert from SD, some is true HD - but they generally lie on the guide and say it's all HD.

KRDO isn't providing the ABC-HD Dallas-Miami basketball game in HD right now? Would be nice during the commercials of the NFC Championship game on Fox.

Rmassey
01-21-07, 03:37 PM
I'm currently watching Peter Frampton on Soundstage via PBS (8-1) - OTA on my HTPC. The picture is stunning at 93% signal, even on my 17" LCD display. I also saw the Dixie Chicks on Austin City Limits last night with amazingly perfect picture quality.

For me, FREE OTA HD is THE way of the future for my needs. I tire of paying $60+/mo just to watch TV, esp. considering all networks are available for free just for taking. The content of subscription TV is becoming less and less appealing to me. As my D* contract nears end this year, I see an S3 for OTA only as my solution. No more DTV, no need for Comcast.

I think this is what providers are worried about. If enough people defect from sat and cable and opt for free OTA HD, they may see a significant reduction in revenues.

Interestingly I don't mind paying Tivo for their service, as I feel that I get exactly what I pay for. So $300/3yr prepaid ($8.31/mo) seems like a pretty reasonable fee for the ability to control my viewing, time shifting, etc. The current street price is still a bit steep for me, but it basically pays for it self in the first year with the $60/mo sat bill savings and I can also sell off my HR10-250 for $400+ to help off set the buy in cost.

... whatever, sorry for the ramble, just giving this some more thought with the upcoming D* price increases. Hoping for an S3 price drop before summer :)

TotallyPreWired
01-21-07, 05:15 PM
For me, FREE OTA HD is THE way of the future for my needs.
Sure. If you can receive it. In my location No C/S digital broadcasts can be had. The only option is Denver, and with their Low Power debacle, only a few stations can be received.
I think this is what providers are worried about. If enough people defect from sat and cable and opt for free OTA HD, they may see a significant reduction in revenues.
Maybe, but not likely. Cable & Sat got to where they are by their variety of offerings. And, for sports fans, OTA can't compete.

If you don't watch sports, news channels, or lots of movies, you might be satisfied with OTA. But most of us require something that we have to pay to see. :(
....jc

Rmassey
01-21-07, 06:18 PM
Sure. If you can receive it. In my location No C/S digital broadcasts can be had. The only option is Denver, and with their Low Power debacle, only a few stations can be received.

yes, I know and have worked out the kinks to optimize my OTA signals. Partly due to your suggestion to get a mast mounted preamp. I finaly did that (about 50 pages back) and now have a very good signal in my location. I'd like to leverage that to save money if at all possible.

Maybe, but not likely. Cable & Sat got to where they are by their variety of offerings. And, for sports fans, OTA can't compete.

If you don't watch sports, news channels, or lots of movies, you might be satisfied with OTA. But most of us require something that we have to pay to see. :(
....jc

Prob true and it really doesn't matter to me personally. I have thought about what I really watch on TV and 99% is network programming. I don't watch sports or the news and I get movies via Netflix.

I don't mind paying for it, what I do mind is paying for someting that I don't use or don't want, like bundled tiered programming from Sat/Cable providers. IMO Tivo is worth the money as is Netflix, becuase I am paying for something I use and get value from. I suppose others may claim the same for D* Total Choice Plus w/locals or whatever they sub to. that's cool. I've just noticed after carefully observing my viewing habits, I can get by just fine with FREE OTA HD.

Now, when is that price drop on the S3 coming? :)

TotallyPreWired
01-21-07, 06:31 PM
I don't mind paying for it, what I do mind is paying for someting that I don't use or don't want, like bundled tiered programming from Sat/Cable providers.
We shouldn't cross our fingers(too much big $$$ against it), but Ala Carte programming is the solution. Of course, since it's something people would want, we'll never see it. :mad:
....jc

Rmassey
01-21-07, 06:45 PM
yeah, Ala Carte is interesting in theroy, but I'd guess that after you picked 12 or so channels that you are willing to pay for, you'd be up to the price of a bundled tier package. I could be wrong, but I'd be very surprised.

TotallyPreWired
01-21-07, 08:37 PM
yeah, Ala Carte is interesting in theroy, but I'd guess that after you picked 12 or so channels that you are willing to pay for, you'd be up to the price of a bundled tier package. I could be wrong, but I'd be very surprised.
Yea. SatCos could easily handle it. But the CableCos would need some amount of technology(cable boxes and/or cable cards) to do it. And 70's technology like up here in WP, flat out couldn't do it.

I also figure that you'd prolly pay around $1 per channel w/o the 'package' break.

Might work for some, but due to laggards in technology, I doubt that we'll ever see it.
....jc

logicman1
01-21-07, 10:42 PM
I watched most of the games today (Sunday) and thought that both networks had outstanding PQ and (especially for KKTV) excellent sound as well. I had center channel output sound so I'm assuming that KKTV had 5.1 working and there were very few drops -- let's hope they maintain for the Super Bowl.

stuebe
01-22-07, 10:08 AM
Worrisome MOXI behavior...?

Folks, before I bother Comcast, have any of you noticed that your Moxi box programming stops at this coming Friday (26 Jan)? I have no data after that point. Been that way for a few days.

I want to call them (again!) and find out what the scoop is, but I'd like to know if it's just me.

Thanks for feedback!

RJO
01-22-07, 12:52 PM
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My Moxi goes all the way to Feb 2. Must be an issue with your box.

RockyMountainD
01-22-07, 02:03 PM
Worrisome MOXI behavior...?

Folks, before I bother Comcast, have any of you noticed that your Moxi box programming stops at this coming Friday (26 Jan)? I have no data after that point. Been that way for a few days.

I want to call them (again!) and find out what the scoop is, but I'd like to know if it's just me.

Thanks for feedback!

Check out the SPL MOXI FAQ (http://splmoxifaq.googlepages.com/FAQ.htm#Troubleshooting). From the Troubleshooting section:

Electronic program guide (EPG) has less than two weeks of data

The EPG data (the listing of programs with times, descriptions, actor and director names, ratings, etc.) should be updated nightly, typically between 1 and 6 AM, through the cable modem built into the Moxi. If the EPG contains no data or less than two weeks of data, something is likely wrong. You can check the Last EPG Update entry on the Main Overview page of the OSD to verify this information.

If it is clear that updates have not been occurring properly, it is possible that you have or have had a connectivity problem. Examples of possible causes of connectivity problems include "de-provisioning" of the Moxi's internal modem or inadequate signal level/quality (see the CONNECTIVITY DIAGNOSIS topics below). Consider whether any wiring changes were made around the time it stopped updating (e.g., addition of a splitter or amplifier, installation of a cable modem, etc.). If you can fix the wiring issue and improve your signal level/quality, you may be able to restore connectivity by reacquiring a valid IP address. After checking and, if necessary, improving your connectivity, you can try to manually trigger an EPG update by selecting Trigger Program Info Update under the Actions and Triggers > List of Various Triggers menu. If the EPG data still does not appear within about an hour, you can try to first Trigger Account Settings, then repeat the Trigger Program Info Update.

cdb
01-24-07, 11:59 AM
If anyone has inside info on DirecTv, I am interested in what city in the DMA rankings that has just been added to the OTA direct, instead of receiving the HD locals by antenna.... and if there is any estimate when our market [#94] will be added....?

longrider
01-24-07, 05:01 PM
Here is a chart (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_HDLIL_DMA.html) from DBStalk.com. It looks like they are up to the 50s with a few exceptions. It will take somebody deep inside D* to give an ETA

Rmassey
01-25-07, 09:46 AM
If anyone has inside info on DirecTv, I am interested in what city in the DMA rankings that has just been added to the OTA direct, instead of receiving the HD locals by antenna.... and if there is any estimate when our market [#94] will be added....?

Can you not pick up locals OTA in GlenEagle? I live just up the road in FoxRun and get 80-90 on ALL OTA signals? I juse a DB4 antenna and a mast mounted pre-amp.

Why do you want to pay for something that is basically free? (well, if you can get the signals anyway)

cdb
01-25-07, 12:14 PM
Can you not pick up locals OTA in GlenEagle? I live just up the road in FoxRun and get 80-90 on ALL OTA signals? I juse a DB4 antenna and a mast mounted pre-amp.

Why do you want to pay for something that is basically free? (well, if you can get the signals anyway)

Thanks to Longrider... & to you you Rmassey for responding to my questions. I do have an antenna, but have been getting low signal strength readings on my Tivo. Channel 5.1 is many times in the low 20's, and 13.1 has been that or even lower.

I agree "free" is much better.

I will play around with my antenna position to see if my reception can be improved. I will also try a pre-amp. Thanks for your imput !!!

longrider
01-25-07, 04:56 PM
That is a good point about reception, granted I am using a big antenna (CM4228) but I receive everything in the 70s and 80s all the way up here in Elizabeth

TallGuy
01-25-07, 07:52 PM
If anyone has inside info on DirecTv, I am interested in what city in the DMA rankings that has just been added to the OTA direct, instead of receiving the HD locals by antenna.... and if there is any estimate when our market [#94] will be added....?
It should happen after the next 2 satellites are launched in about May and July if memory serves me right - those are the ones that would have capacity for nearly every big 4 HD local affiliate in most markets, even our size.

Frank Zimkas
01-26-07, 12:24 AM
Anyone else having issues with KKTV tonight. Signal was bouncing around so bad I couldn't watch anything.

eichenberg
01-26-07, 02:02 PM
Anyone else having issues with KKTV tonight. Signal was bouncing around so bad I couldn't watch anything.

I recorded CSI last night, but have not watched it yet. But I did watch Letterman last night and i had no signal problems for Letterman

rvaniwaa
01-26-07, 02:16 PM
I recorded CSI last night, but have not watched it yet. But I did watch Letterman last night and i had no signal problems for Letterman

My HDTiVo recorded CSI and I watched it last night without any noticable issues.

--Ron

Frank Zimkas
01-26-07, 02:24 PM
HMMMMM, looks like I got issues all by my lonesome.

vastrand
01-27-07, 03:52 PM
Is anyone having issues with Comcast On Demand? I thought that there is supposed to be a bunch of free movies On Demand, I get nothing.