The new JD Power and Associates rankings for best Cable/Satellite companies are out and this year WOW! Internet and Cable (My Employer) is #1. Good ole' Adelphia tied for last and Comcast and Time Warner did not fare much better. Here are the top four:

1. WOW! Internet and Cable

2. Directv

3. Cox

4. Dish Network



http://www.jdpower.com/cc/telecom/ratings/cable_satellite/index.jsp



~Josh

A big ugly mast antenna in an attic is probably going to receive more than a small one inside, but it depends on your location.

Also, whatever you do, avoid the good-looking but worthless Terk TV55. I had to buy it and return it. Not sure it would receive the signal if it was attached to the tower itself.

Oddly enough, the Terk TV55 outperformed the squareshooter in my situation. I'm in Pueblo with a huge tree blocking my line of site to Cheyenne mountain.


Anybody want my squareshooter, give me $20.00 plus shipping and it yours.

Anyone up in Gleneagle use the Square Shooter with good results?

eddie_d_lopez - what model of Square Shooter do you have?

Malcom:

How do you mount one of those to the side of the house?

Thanks!

Sorry, no personal experience with a wall mount. But I suspect a couple or 4 lag screws through the support brackets where the mast mount U-bolts are would work fine, as long as you catch a stud with some of them. You don't get any wind out there, right? ;)

Wind? In the "plains of Kansas?" Surely you jest!

Hey, I'm so out of touch that I was telling my wife about it and lamenting how we are going to run power to an amplified antenna and she says "honey, can't you just run a cable through the wall to the outside where you mount the antenna? It's just the garage." (we have power on the inside of the garage within easy reach of the mounting location!)

D'oh! I guess it's true that men wouldn't be anywhere without good women behind them! :)

I would love to know about ABC (KRDO) as well for Lost and Alias in particular.

If noone writes or call I will do it in a few weeks since we are moving back to the Springs next month. Geez, I hope I can get HD/DVR service up in the northwest. They're all rolled out there, right?

--Kelly

the ABC station is only available in DTV not HDTV. and i believe they are broadcasting art a relatively low power right now, and i know many people do have problems picking it up.

Speaking of witch anyone here any updates or talk to anyone lately that knows when they will start broadcasting in HD? I would really like to watch some MNF in HD this year.

OK, i couldn't wait any longer- I sent an e-mail to the chief engineer listed on krdotv.com. I will report back any news.

--Kelly

I left KRDO's chief engineer a voice mail on Friday. He is apparently not dying to return my call.

The new JD Power and Associates rankings for best Cable/Satellite companies are out and this year WOW! Internet and Cable (My Employer) is #1. Good ole' Adelphia tied for last and Comcast and Time Warner did not fare much better.
That's not a good endorsement that you forego your Adelphia discount and pay full price for HD to DirecTV!

Adelphia is not my employer, WOW! is, so I get no discount from Adelphia. WOW! is headquartered here in Colorado, but we provide service for the people of OH, IL, MI and parts of IN. It is nice to see a local company win the big award!!

~Josh

Maybe WOW! should service the springs.

I'm originally from the Detroit area and I've heard from friends and family how great Wide Open West is compared to Comcast- Even the ones who didn't switch just threatened to switch and had their Comcast bills lowered to match WOW. :D I sure wish they served the Colorado Springs area. Competititon is good.

--Kelly

Adelphia is not my employer, WOW! is, so I get no discount from Adelphia. WOW! is headquartered here in Colorado, but we provide service for the people of OH, IL, MI and parts of IN. It is nice to see a local company win the big award!!

~Josh

I just thought of something- If Comcast does indeed take over the Springs for Adelphia, will we lose HDNet? It's one of the few channels I can't get now with Comcast in Cali.

Adelphia is not my employer, WOW! is, so I get no discount from Adelphia. WOW! is headquartered here in Colorado, but we provide service for the people of OH, IL, MI and parts of IN. It is nice to see a local company win the big award!!

~Josh
Sorry, I completely read your post wrong, my bad

I just thought of something- If Comcast does indeed take over the Springs for Adelphia, will we lose HDNet? It's one of the few channels I can't get now with Comcast in Cali.
There's always DirecTV to cure that. Oh yeah, I was thinking about dumping D* for cable if they ever get a real good networked HD-DVR.

If anyone is using Adelphia's HD DVR can you post up and give me your thoughts? Usability, bugs, picture quality, hard drive space, connections (DVI??), etc? Appreciate it!

I'd really love to know also. thanks, Kelly

If anyone is using Adelphia's HD DVR can you post up and give me your thoughts? Usability, bugs, picture quality, hard drive space, connections (DVI??), etc? Appreciate it!

If anyone is using Adelphia's HD DVR can you post up and give me your thoughts? Usability, bugs, picture quality, hard drive space, connections (DVI??), etc? Appreciate it!


I have been suing it since April. It is a pretty good unit. The DVI is not yet active (but will be when they update to software version 3.2, which could happen anytime in the next month) The HD picture looks amazing. but the analog channels look pretty bad when you have the moxi set to 1080i or 720p. but this again should be fixed with software version 3.2 with native pass through. The hard rive space is kind of limited. If you would like to read other information on it, look for the motorola Moxi forum under HDTV recorders. There are actually a couple guys in that forum from the company manufacturer (Deigo).

I seem to remember it had 8 hours of HD space. Is that correct? After getting used to 30, I don't think I could do 8.

I seem to remember it had 8 hours of HD space. Is that correct? After getting used to 30, I don't think I could do 8.

That sounds about right. I will find out for sure this NFL season. And as far as i can tell there are no plans in the near future to add a external HD using there USB 2.0 ports. This feature seems over a year off. (considering they have been telling us since april that they are going to push 3.2 out to us, but it is now middle of august and still no sign of it here in adelphialand. And i beleive adelphia is the only cable provider that has not upgraded there boxes yet.

I just wanted to thank channel 4 in Denver and KKTV 11 in the Springs for showing tonights pre-season Bronco game in HD. That was a pleasant surprise to tune in to KKTV and see the HD. I did not realize that channel 4 had the capability to do the home game in HD. While watching the Patriot game last night, CBS promoted next Saturday's Bronco-Colt game to be in HD. 2 weeks in row with HD is great. Let's hope it continues through the regular season.KRDO- get your act together. We need MNF in HD.

Does anyone here in the Springs have BOTH the DVR (Moxi) & regular (non-DVR) HD boxes? I currently have the Moxi box, but I'm considering switching to the regular HD box if:

1. If the regular HD box allows a native passthrough mode of the resolution & aspect so I don't have to switch from 480i > 1080i in the menu each time I change from SD to HD. I know that software version 3.2 will fix this, but who the heck knows when that will happen.

2. If the regular HD box has a better SD picture. The Moxi's SD picture quality is TERRIBLE.

3. If the guide is better on the regular HD box. The lack of a grid-style guide on the Moxi is PAINFUL.

Does anyone out there have both the regular HD & Moxi box? I RARELY record anything...in your opinion, is the regular HD box better overall (minus the lack of recording features)? Thanks for your help!!

Does anyone here in the Springs have BOTH the DVR (Moxi) & regular (non-DVR) HD boxes? I currently have the Moxi box, but I'm considering switching to the regular HD box if:

1. If the regular HD box allows a native passthrough mode of the resolution & aspect so I don't have to switch from 480i > 1080i in the menu each time I change from SD to HD. I know that software version 3.2 will fix this, but who the heck knows when that will happen.

2. If the regular HD box has a better SD picture. The Moxi's SD picture quality is TERRIBLE.

3. If the guide is better on the regular HD box. The lack of a grid-style guide on the Moxi is PAINFUL.

Does anyone out there have both the regular HD & Moxi box? I RARELY record anything...in your opinion, is the regular HD box better overall (minus the lack of recording features)? Thanks for your help!!

yes, yes and Yes! I just sent my Moxi back yesterday and got the HD Mot box back. It is now doing VOD, although they lost the VOD feed and are working to get it back up. SD looks a lot better now. They have a grid of sorts, but not like the TV Guide grid. Natvie pass through is configurable although the Moxi 3.2 when it is pushed should solve that problem. I just couldn't stand the fan noise in my bedroom and found I wasn't using the DVR that much. I switched the downstairs Sony 50a10 to a cable card and am having a lot of issues with that. They are not able to push the digital basic tier or HD plus to the card as yet. I'm waiting for Monday to call again. It's always something with Adelphia.

You guys are really scaring me with the Moxi HD DVR. I naively assumed it would have the nearly same features as the Motorola 6412. :eek: I must go read the Moxi thread and get acquainted with it. We use our DVR feature *all* the time.

Does anyone here in the Springs have BOTH the DVR (Moxi) & regular (non-DVR) HD boxes? I currently have the Moxi box, but I'm considering switching to the regular HD box if:

1. If the regular HD box allows a native passthrough mode of the resolution & aspect so I don't have to switch from 480i > 1080i in the menu each time I change from SD to HD. I know that software version 3.2 will fix this, but who the heck knows when that will happen.

2. If the regular HD box has a better SD picture. The Moxi's SD picture quality is TERRIBLE.

3. If the guide is better on the regular HD box. The lack of a grid-style guide on the Moxi is PAINFUL.

Does anyone out there have both the regular HD & Moxi box? I RARELY record anything...in your opinion, is the regular HD box better overall (minus the lack of recording features)? Thanks for your help!!


Agree with Joanr's first two YES's, but as for #3...

It's true that there's no grid, but the Mot 5100 isn't much of a grid IMHO (compared to DTV or Tivo). The biggest difference is that the MOXI has about 2 weeks of guide data compared to about 2 days with the non-dvr boxes. Just something to keep in mind.

Wow, those are horror stories - bad enough to give up recording!! I wouldn't give up my DVRs (HD TiVo and SD TiVo) for anything anywhere. They've taught me to hate wasting time on live TV, boring parts of shows, commercials, etc.

I just wanted to thank channel 4 in Denver and KKTV 11 in the Springs for showing tonights pre-season Bronco game in HD. That was a pleasant surprise to tune in to KKTV and see the HD. I did not realize that channel 4 had the capability to do the home game in HD. While watching the Patriot game last night, CBS promoted next Saturday's Bronco-Colt game to be in HD. 2 weeks in row with HD is great. Let's hope it continues through the regular season.KRDO- get your act together. We need MNF in HD.
Wow, I can't believe that a Denver local station could produce a pre-season (low ratings) football game in HD. I purposely didn't turn on the game because I knew [thought] there was zero chance the game was in HD.

Yeah i beleive it was because it was actually espn cameras and **** that did the game.

Wow, those are horror stories - bad enough to give up recording!! I wouldn't give up my DVRs (HD TiVo and SD TiVo) for anything anywhere. They've taught me to hate wasting time on live TV, boring parts of shows, commercials, etc.

Having experienced the Moxi with all it's ticks, slow menus and horrible upconverts you'd probably dump it also. I loved the DVR part of the box, and am planning to buy my own Sony HD DVR as soon as I find out what Adelphia is going to do with the copy protection situation on the CableCards. Right now it's turned off for everything but I'm hearing some horror stories on the cablecard threads about TimeWarner and Comcast changing the bit and disabling even the "copy once" and 5.1 audio out of the card to PVRs on the subscription HD channels. That would be a disaster and a waste of my money. If that happens I'll have to resort back to the Moxi. Maybe by then they will have pushed out the 3.2 firmware upgrade in this area. Until then I'll have to grab a cup of Joe during the commercials.

New to thread... do you get together very often? all digital or do we have some crt'ers here? anyone have skills with greyscale on a crt?

Jack

Yeah i beleive it was because it was actually espn cameras and **** that did the game.
I must be dense - who is "****"?

New to thread... do you get together very often? all digital or do we have some crt'ers here? anyone have skills with greyscale on a crt?

Jack
Welcome! We've only attempted a get-together once, and that was at Frank's killer HT. We do have some proud CRT'ers here (Mits 65") but I wouldn't calibrate mine... I found a little lower priced calibrator in Denver a year ago but it was still several hundred dollars with correcting the geometry.

Has anyone reached KRDO about their HD timetable? MNF starts Sept. 12!

Has anyone reached KRDO about their HD timetable? MNF starts Sept. 12!

I have e mailed there engineer a couple times, and i never get a response. I hope it happens in the next couple weeks, i want my MNF in HD! Someone should try to go over to the station and talk to someone.

I have e mailed there engineer a couple times, and i never get a response. I hope it happens in the next couple weeks, i want my MNF in HD! Someone should try to go over to the station and talk to someone.

I'm kind of surprized. I was under the impression that they were trying to be better about replying.

I e-mailed KRDO's chief engineer over a week ago and haven't gotten a reply. I can only optimistically hope that he's currently on vacation and thus the reason for not responding. The Lost season premiere is 9/21! (Alas, our last night in San Jose but hopefully not our last time watching Lost in HD.) :mad: :mad:


On a side note, I e-mailed Rocky Mtn. PBS last week and got a reply within a few days:

> Thank you for your interest in the Rocky Mountian PBS HDTV signal. We have
> equipment that's in test that we expect to install over the next month or
> two. If all goes well with the installation we should have HDTV on the air
> from KTSC-DT this fall.


--Kelly

Welcome! We've only attempted a get-together once, and that was at Frank's killer HT. We do have some proud CRT'ers here (Mits 65") but I wouldn't calibrate mine... I found a little lower priced calibrator in Denver a year ago but it was still several hundred dollars with correcting the geometry.

Has anyone reached KRDO about their HD timetable? MNF starts Sept. 12!
Thanks TG!! The HT's gonna be home to my daughters Birthday Party (the Big 1-Oh!) this weekend.

I emailed KRDO 7-10 days ago and haven't received a reply either.

I E mailed the KRDO chief engineer again about 10 min ago, and got a response right away!

Thanks for your interest in News 13.

We are very close to being 100% digital. Our equipment is close to
being in place and we had originally targeted the end of July to be up
and running.

Some snags in equipment acquisition and installation, and some in
program delivery from ABC, and our syndicators, has combined to delay
that. All our engineering and management will say at this time is
"soon".

HD is another matter. There's an outside chance everything necessary
for Monday Night Football could be in place as the regular season
begins. That too is subject to equipment and installation.

Understand that not everything ABC does is available in digital, nor HD
all the time. So, we do have to rely on ABC for distribution. The same
is try for our syndicator providers for such programs as Entertainment
Tonight, Montel, and many others.

Programming and transmission of the programming is very expensive,
especially since we have to operate two television stations. One is the
standard analog the other is digital/HD. Television sets for digital/HD
and well over 50% of the television sets in this market handle only
analog or digital, but not HD. That's all cost driven. We hear from
many viewers who are not buying HD sets because they can't afford them.
That can drive ABC and our syndicators to hold back on distribution of
programs in HD. We do know that the FCC has required digital by
December of '05 and HD by December of '06.

We want to be there sooner. For us to do that, ABC and our syndication
providers have to have the programming available where we can receive
it, and then transmit it, in HD. Time will tell.

Thanks again for your interest in News 13.

I also Sent the production Manager an e mail regarding HD, and here is what he Said, and it appears this is a forward also from the chief engineer to the production manager:

We are shooting for the beginning of the NFL regular season Sept 8 2005 to begin broadcasting LIVE events with HD content.
As far as our network delay feeds I do not have a time frame at this time.
We are waiting for our encoder equipment to arrive and working out the details of our HD delay server.

So does that response seem to imply that if ABC *is* sending content in HD (like Lost, Alias, etc) that KRDO is going to broadcast it out to us this season?

So does that response seem to imply that if ABC *is* sending content in HD (like Lost, Alias, etc) that KRDO is going to broadcast it out to us this season?

To me it sounds they can broadcast any LIVE events in HD (like monday night football). But any of the normal network programming (like lost alias ect) they are still waiting for there network delay equipment (this is because where we live, east cost and central time zones get it "live" directly from the network, and while they are brocasting it strait from the network, krdo is recording it to brodcast it usually an hour later than when east and central get it.) I hope that makes sense. But i am just guessing by november they should have all the equipment needed up and running and tested to be brodcasting ABC's HD content.

My response from Joe Reed:

We are shooting for the beginning of the NFL regular season Sept 8 2005 to begin broadcasting LIVE events with HD content.
As far as our network delay feeds I do not have a time frame at this time.
We are waiting for our encoder equipment to arrive and working out the details of our HD delay server.
We are planning our transmitter to be at full power by October 2005.

thanks for viewing

Joe Reed
Chief Engineer
Pikes Peak Broadcasting
719-575-6213

My response from Joe Reed:
We are planning our transmitter to be at full power by October 2005.
[/I]

That is the same response i got from the production manager who obviously forwarded the e mail from the chief engineer, accept for the transmitter being at full power.

So does that response seem to imply that if ABC *is* sending content in HD (like Lost, Alias, etc) that KRDO is going to broadcast it out to us this season?
It's nice to see that KRDO will be at full power in October. However, if you are looking for a lot of football from ABC in HD, take a deep breath. It ain't happn'in. See my post here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=28456&page=395&pp=30) It's in the Denver OTA thread, post #11847. Basically, it's just MNF.
....jc

Thats all i ask is for MNF to be in HD. I don't expect them to be to broadcast every college football game in the country being played on Saturday to be in HD, that is ridiculous, and the cost would be enormous to purchase all those HD cameras. But the MAJOR games in college football that they have the rights to will be broadcasted in HD (ie teams in the top 5 or 10).

Thats all i ask is for MNF to be in HD. I don't expect them to be to broadcast every college football game in the country being played on Saturday to be in HD, that is ridiculous, and the cost would be enormous to purchase all those HD cameras.
Why? CBS & FOX are televising the majority of the NFL games this year in HD. Sooner or later, they have to make the move.
But the MAJOR games in college football that they have the rights to will be broadcasted in HD (ie teams in the top 5 or 10).
You didn't read my other post, did you?
ABC Sports will televise Miami at Florida State (Sept. 5 at 8 p.m.), two other regular-season games and all five bowl games in high definition.
I count 3 regular season games.
....jc

Why? CBS & FOX are televising the majority of the NFL games this year in HD. Sooner or later, they have to make the move.


The key word being later. CBS and Fox have invested the money, ABC seems unwilling to invest that much money into HD for live programming of sports. I wish they would.

My personal opinion is that we with HD are a very small minority. I don't have any statistical data, but ask 10 people you run into today if they have HD in their homes and I'll bet most will tell you 'no.' Some will even ask you what HD is!!

Point being, we live in a small city with small city budgets. To make the leap and investment towards HD prior to any Congressional mandates is unforseable in our market. Fortunately FOX and CBS locally got going much sooner than the others.

Yet, I'm with you...I want my HD on all channels NOW which is why we must keep emailing and calling the stations which are falling behind. Believe it or not, your input does matter to them. If they have enough interest, they make the investment sooner. If you personally haven't called or written the stations, then shame on you!!! Tell you friends who have HD. Tell everyone you know to let these stations know that they have an audience that wants to watch their station in HD!

Keep the updates going....keep calling...keep emailing. We are winning the war!!!!

I got the same response tonight. I never understood why prime time started an hour earlier in the Mountain time zone. Just give it to me in Pacific or Eastern time, I don't care. So basically this all implies I shouldn't count on Lost/Alias for several weeks minimum. Damn, my husband is going to get tired of me bitching every week!

-Kelly

My response from Joe Reed:

We are shooting for the beginning of the NFL regular season Sept 8 2005 to begin broadcasting LIVE events with HD content.
As far as our network delay feeds I do not have a time frame at this time.
We are waiting for our encoder equipment to arrive and working out the details of our HD delay server.
We are planning our transmitter to be at full power by October 2005.

thanks for viewing

Joe Reed
Chief Engineer
Pikes Peak Broadcasting
719-575-6213

yeah when i first moved out here from the central time zone i thought it was kind of screwy. I really don't like the time delay, but over the years i have gotten used to it.

Also i think it is funny i got a real long response early this morning from Joe Reed, and then everybody else in the afternoon gets this short detailed response! He must be getting sick of us, so maybe he will be motivated to get rid of us by hurrying up and getting HD!!!

Icncase some of you did see the long response on the previous page here it is agian:
Thanks for your interest in News 13.

We are very close to being 100% digital. Our equipment is close to
being in place and we had originally targeted the end of July to be up
and running.

Some snags in equipment acquisition and installation, and some in
program delivery from ABC, and our syndicators, has combined to delay
that. All our engineering and management will say at this time is
"soon".

HD is another matter. There's an outside chance everything necessary
for Monday Night Football could be in place as the regular season
begins. That too is subject to equipment and installation.

Understand that not everything ABC does is available in digital, nor HD
all the time. So, we do have to rely on ABC for distribution. The same
is try for our syndicator providers for such programs as Entertainment
Tonight, Montel, and many others.

Programming and transmission of the programming is very expensive,
especially since we have to operate two television stations. One is the
standard analog the other is digital/HD. Television sets for digital/HD
and well over 50% of the television sets in this market handle only
analog or digital, but not HD. That's all cost driven. We hear from
many viewers who are not buying HD sets because they can't afford them.
That can drive ABC and our syndicators to hold back on distribution of
programs in HD. We do know that the FCC has required digital by
December of '05 and HD by December of '06.

We want to be there sooner. For us to do that, ABC and our syndication
providers have to have the programming available where we can receive
it, and then transmit it, in HD. Time will tell.

Thanks again for your interest in News 13.

I really like that prime time here is 7-10. The earlier it's on, the earlier the shows are recorded, and then you have more flexibility to watch them. After a long day it can be hard to stay awake for a primetime show from 10-11, or Leno/Letterman from 11:30-12:30...I remember when I lived in California. Even though I go to bed around midnight, I can fall asleep on the couch at anytime after 10...

But even if the Mountain time zone was 8-11, that would still not align with the live feeds of Pacific time 8-11 or Eastern 8-11, so tape delaying from Eastern would still be necessary. I suppose that this is only a Mountain time issue - Central time has the advantage where 7-10 is the same live 3 hours as Eastern 8-11.

yeah when i first moved out here from the central time zone i thought it was kind of screwy. I really don't like the time delay, but over the years i have gotten used to it.
Believe me, this is the only place to live! That is if you're a football fan. Twice I've had long term contracts on the East Coast. There is nothing worse than having to wait until 9:00pm for MNF to start. The news comes on at 11:00pm, I don't think that I ever saw it. I had to get up before 5:00am.

Here, MNF at 7:00pm is wonderful. Done by around 10:00pm. Hail to the Mountain Time Zone!
....jc

[B] We do know that the FCC has required digital by
December of '05 and HD by December of '06.[/I]


Interesting, I knew about the FCC mandating Digital, but not HD. Is this a new development I did not hear of.

The FCC has never mandated HD broadcasts.

Believe me, this is the only place to live! That is if you're a football fan. Twice I've had long term contracts on the East Coast. There is nothing worse than having to wait until 9:00pm for MNF to start. The news comes on at 11:00pm, I don't think that I ever saw it. I had to get up before 5:00am.

Here, MNF at 7:00pm is wonderful. Done by around 10:00pm. Hail to the Mountain Time Zone!
....jc
You are exactly right about live sporting events!

The FCC has never mandated HD broadcasts.
Frank, I believe, is correct. Since I have many 'rocks' in between me & the Springs, Denver is my only choice. And multicasting is what many of the channels up here are doing. For instance:

KGWN(Cheyenne - CBS) 5.1-HD, 5.2-SD
KMGH(Denver - ABC) 7.1-HD, 7.2-SD
KBDI(Denver - PBS) 12.1-SD, 12.2-SD, 12.3-SD
KUSA(Denver - NBC) 9.1-HD, 9.2-SD - Programmed but never seen

Unfortunately, multicasting just takes away bandwith from the HD station(if they have one), so most people are not happy with it.
....jc

Don't get me wrong- I *love* the fact that primetime ends an hour earlier and the "10 pm" shows start at 9 pm. I just can't tell you how many shows we missed that started at 7 pm because we were still working or eating dinner our first year in the Springs. Old habits die hard!

-Kelly

For these symptoms, the doctor prescribes a DVR! That will take care of it right away.

Yes, thank goodness DVRs are out now. ^^^

Strangely, I just got this message on COMCAST San Jose:

Introducing i-guide: Adelphia is pleased to introduce the all new Interactive Program Guide... For more info visit www.adelphiasocal.com :confused:

Did Comcast just take over Adelphia So. Cal ? Perhaps I'll start getting Colorado Springs messages here too. ;)

Really enjoyed the Broncos in HD yesterday...it's been a long summer and I'm really ready for more football. Season opener against Miami is in HD too!!

Really enjoyed the Broncos in HD yesterday...it's been a long summer and I'm really ready for more football. Season opener against Miami is in HD too!!
My thoughts exactly. I couldn't believe how nice HD football looked -- it's been a long time since seeing the Superbowl!

Just wanted to thank everybody for the advice/help. Got my HD-Tivo on Friday and installed it with a Winegard SS-2000 and I am stunned at how good the picture looks in HD!!!

Having grown up as a kid trying to get UHF stations with a set of rabbit ears and little tin foil balls on the 3rd floor of our house so I could watch the "Banana Splits" after school or "Creature Double-Feature" on a Saturday afternoon and dealing with ghosting, snowy pics and the like, I did not expect to get the picture I am getting OTA with an antenna hooked up to my HD box!!

My father-in-law (who I honestly thought was going to tell me I was crazy for having a projector in the first place) was thoroughly impressed with the Broncos game in HD on Saturday night!!! He is *STILL* talking about the experience!! (it was so good we could see the player's ears through the holes in their helmets.

I am recording "Prison Break" tonight and can't wait to see how that looks. Now if we can get ABC to show in HD I'll be a happy camper!

Yes, thank goodness DVRs are out now. ^^^

Strangely, I just got this message on COMCAST San Jose:

:confused:

Did Comcast just take over Adelphia So. Cal ? Perhaps I'll start getting Colorado Springs messages here too. ;)


As far as I know Time Warner is taking over So. Cal. Comcast is getting Colorado Springs. This won't happen until next year though.

^^^ That makes the message even stranger!

Just wanted to thank everybody for the advice/help. Got my HD-Tivo on Friday...
I am the world's biggest HD-Tivo fan. The only thing that makes the NFL better is - the NFL in HD - and the NFL in HD without commercials!

Have fun filling up the hard drive! Yeah, there are a lot of repeats on DirecTV HD, but there are a lot of good shows to record if you look hard enough.

P.S. Did you all know that David Letterman's first HD show is tonight??!!

P.S. Did you all know that David Letterman's first HD show is tonight??!!

I guess it will be/is my first HD recording on the new HD Tivo. Thanks

Are any of you Colo. Springs Adelphia users experiencing heavy breakup of the HD 746 & 733 signals? This started Saturday and I was wondering if was just me. It's happening with the DCT box and the cable card on both sets.

Are any of you Colo. Springs Adelphia users experiencing heavy breakup of the HD 746 & 733 signals? This started Saturday and I was wondering if was just me. It's happening with the DCT box and the cable card on both sets.

Yep. Glad it's not just me :)

I thought Letterman looked fantastic (as did the couple of minutes of Prison Break and Rome I peeked at off the NPL).

2 down, 2 to go!!

I'm a little confused by this response from one of the KRDO people: "We are very close to being 100% digital."??? KRDO-DT has been up for some time now, which is 100% digital, right? Can anyone offer some insights on this? (Although all that really matters to me is the dates for when they will have Live HD up (MNF) and taped delayed HD up (Lost and the new Invasion & Night Stalker look interesting).)

Thanks,
Rob

I'm a little confused by this response from one of the KRDO people: "We are very close to being 100% digital."??? KRDO-DT has been up for some time now, which is 100% digital, right? Can anyone offer some insights on this? (Although all that really matters to me is the dates for when they will have Live HD up (MNF) and taped delayed HD up (Lost and the new Invasion & Night Stalker look interesting).)

Thanks,
Rob

I thought a lot of the e-mail was BS filler- like Understand that not everything ABC does is available in digital, nor HD
all the time. So, we do have to rely on ABC for distribution. The same
is try for our syndicator providers for such programs as Entertainment
Tonight, Montel, and many others.

Sorry, but, duh, everything ABC does isn't available in HD? really??? Who cares about Montel or ET in HD? I told him I was concerned about Lost and Alias. It was a pretty dumbed down response IMHO, especially for such a tech savvy audience such as AVS Forum users. :)

Yeah i agree, when i received that e mail my first thought was "why the hell would i care if motel is in hd???" And i know all of ABC's prime time programming is in HD. I just wish they would get there sh*t together and start broadcasting HD, From looking through other forums almost every other city of this size in the country has all there locals broadcasting HD. And since they are using the public airwaves, we should keep calling/e mail /sending letters, telling them to get there act together, we want our HDTV!.

I was hoping to see last night MNF preason game in HD maybe as a "test" but no such luck. But i did watch Prison Break in HD and it looked great! If the football was in HD i probably would have watched that.

Yeah, I guess I've been spoiled growing up and living in big 10 markets my whole life- I didn't realize Colorado Springs was such a small town at 300,000+.

The game looked really nice out here in HD, but I couldn't stand to watch the hometown team get their butts kicked. :D Now when they start broadcasting Big 10 football in HD in the not too distant future we're going to be glued to the TV at home.

ahhh, got to love big ten football. Go Iowa!

I think COS is now about 500,000, definitely if you include surrounding areas in the TV market. Maybe by the end of the year we'll have 4 or 5 HD broadcasters. I wonder how KOAA is coming along.

I wonder how KOAA is coming along. From their site...
KOAA and HDTV - Updated 05-25-05
On November 12 th 2004, the FCC granted KOAA their Construction Permit (CP) for Digital Television (DTV) KOAA-DT. KOAA has purchased the associated digital transmitter equipment from the manufacturer, and will begin construction on the Cheyenne Mountain transmitter building soon. The estimated time of building completion is October 2005, after which the installation of the previously purchased equipment can be installed, tested and put on the air. The on air date of KOAA-DT is tentatively scheduled for November of 2005. Programming will be all “standard definition” digital and will have 4 hours of High Definition in prime time hours, as well as a few programs during the daytime schedule when it is available. The format (4X3 vs. 16X9) will depend on the supplier of the programs, our NBC HDTV should always be in 1080i. For more information on HDTV in general go to the Advanced Television web site. Hopefully they'll meet the Nov. 2005 date.

Just to let people know if you have the Adelphia moxi box, you should now have the 3.2 Software update which allows native resolution. But it appears there is still no support for the DVI output, which i thought was supposed to be a feature of 3.2.

Great news on ver 3.2. I hope the DVI port is enabled soon though. Wait, looks like it IS working. Now I don't have to use S-video for my DVD player- I can use component- yay.

Just to let people know if you have the Adelphia moxi box, you should now have the 3.2 Software update which allows native resolution. But it appears there is still no support for the DVI output, which i thought was supposed to be a feature of 3.2.

Nevermind, i restarted the moxi box, and the DVI DOES WORK!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AMAZING!

Has anyone gotten any useful info out of KOAA recently regarding Digital/HD?
I sent an email off to their engineering department yesterday and was excited to get a response back pretty quickly - until I opened the email and saw the following:

For the latest on KOAA-DT and HDTV Please check out http://www.koaa.com/info

Thank You.
Quentin Henry
KOAA-TV

Going to that page gave an update from 05/25/05!! Very helpful!!! :mad:

Anyone know anything more...

That page does say november, so i am assuming november.

Nevermind, i restarted the moxi box, and the DVI DOES WORK!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AMAZING!

I gave mine up two weeks ago because of all the ticks and now they have it fixed? Go figure. I knew the 3.2 upgrade was going to be pushed this past week but the DVI is active? So how does it look compared to component and how much has the overall PQ from the box improved? Is the SD still terrible from the box?

It's now Wednesday and Adelphia has not fixed the problems with 746 and 733. I've called twice, maybe if more people would report the problem they'd fix it.

Yeah i called and reported the problem with 746 and 733 to. SD looks 100% better then it did before when using the native pass through. I can see a PQ difference with the DVI then component. I don't know what it is, but it just looks better, and that is before tweaking the settings on the TV for DVI. I think this update just turned this box around in my opinion. I would defiantly recommend it to everyone that got rid of it, to go get it back!

I just called again about those channels, and it says there are known service outages in our area, and they are working on the problem. Doesn't even let you talk to a CS rep.

Yeah!!! 3.2 is here!!!

I didn't have 3.2 when I came home today (even after rebooting) so I had to trigger the software update manually.

SD channels are FINALLY watchable!! The picture is much better than what could previously be achieved my manually selecting 480i in the Video Output settings.

Hey, is VOD supposed to be working on the MOXI box? I only tried it once before (a couple of months ago), and I just tried it again after getting 3.2 today, and it still doesn't do anything when I select VOD from the MOXI menu.

My VOD has been working fine for the last 4-5 months, you might want to call and find out what is going on.

Nevermind, I went into the "triggers" list and there was an option to trigger VOD, so I did and after rebooting, VOD appears to be working. I haven't actually rented anything yet, but at least the list is there now.

Weird. Wonder why I have to do this stuff manually? I'd call Adelphia, but I seriously doubt they'll be ANY help based on their track record on previous calls.

yeah they probably would not be, all they would do is send out a tech to do the same thing you just did. They want to send out a tech for this problem with 733 and 746. and i said alright, but the appointment is not till Tuesday, so hopefully i it will be fixed by then so i can watch some football this weekend on espn.

I filled out an outage form on their website for the problem with 733/746. Hope they get it fixed soon.

Everybody go here and report the outage of 733, 746.
http://www.adelphia.com/contact_us/response_reporting_form.cfm

Anybody here in the Springs able to get either ABC or WB in HD out of Denver? If so, what antenna are you using?

Having whet my appetite with some shows on Fox and CBS I am really anxious to get Lost, Alias and Smallville in HD.

Any suggestions?

Is it just me or does it appear that KRDO (13-1) has a much stronger signal (full power??) now? I've never been able to hold the signal long enough to even watch it and as of yesterday, I can watch the channel without any drops.

I am using the Terk TV55 antenna mounted outdoors.

They had said they were going to be full power in Novemberish. Maybe it got done sooner...all I know is that it is obviously stronger at my house.

Anybody here in the Springs able to get either ABC or WB in HD out of Denver? If so, what antenna are you using?
I'm in between WP & Divide, and KMGH - ABC Denver is one of my strongest stations. However, 90% of the people in Denver can't receive it(low power & bad transmitter location). And, I'm using a big antenna(Winegard 8200). If you are actually down in the Springs, you have virtually no chance of receiving it.

Is it just me or does it appear that KRDO (13-1) has a much stronger signal (full power??) now? I've never been able to hold the signal long enough to even watch it and as of yesterday, I can watch the channel without any drops.
Keep checking it. Your good luck could be Atmosphere related, and therefore could disappear just like that.
.....jc

What about WB (KWGN?)

Anybody in the Springs proper that *CAN* get KMGH?

What about WB (KWGN?)
I can not receive it here. However, it's on Lookout Mtn, so you've got a better chance than KMGH!
....jc

They apparently fixed 733 and 746 this morning. I emailed them twice yesterday and they were not the nicest emails. I told them flat out that there are people gathering in different forums on the internet discussing their service and nothing goes unnoticed anymore.

I might have to get the box back and just split the signal between the card and the box for more variety. The card is only 1.75 a month and if I don't like the signal from the box I can always switch inputs. I really miss the IPG, VOD and DVR on the downstairs set.

Those of you that have cablecard capability here's my last three weeks experience with it. I've had to re-set it daily. Today is the first morning I've turned on the set and actually had the channels de-coded without doing a re-set. Things are starting to look up with Adelphia!

I have the Terk TV55 also. 13.1 comes in great for me. The Sony TV diagnosis says the signal strength is 76. Most days it's in there at 72 or so. It's mounted on the back patio fence and I have all kinds of buildings in front of it. One of these days we are going to mount it up on the chimney of the townhome but no need so far.

Is there anyone out there that lives in Teller County and has D*'s HD package? The reason that I ask, is that D* has given me the CBS/W HD feed, and I wanted to see if anyone else got it. I did not ask for it!

The only thing that I can think of is the Significantly Viewed channel legislation in the SHVA. Denver channel KCNC(CBS) is an SV channel for Teller county, and I believe that all Denver folk's get the CBS/W feed because KCNC is O & O.

Please let me know!
....jc

The only thing that I can think of is the Significantly Viewed channel legislation in the SHVA. Denver channel KCNC(CBS) is an SV channel for Teller county, and I believe that all Denver folk's get the CBS/W feed because KCNC is O & O.


I have the Denver locals and you are correct. However, the only time I ever watch it is when KKTV forgets to throw the switch.

I have the Denver locals and you are correct. However, the only time I ever watch it is when KKTV forgets to throw the switch.
Thanks Chance!

Now, what about FoxW? Does everyone in Denver get that also?

Thanks,
....jc

Now, what about FoxW? Does everyone in Denver get that also?


Indeed. Of course, I never watch it either because OTA Fox looks so good! Why couldn't we have a O&O ABC or NBC affiliate in Denver???

You're welcome!

Chance - are you north of Monument, just enough to be in Denver's DMA and not Colorado Springs DMA? I'm off Baptist Road - I wish I could be in Denver's market!

I forgot that I also requested waivers for CBS & FOX just for grins. I've done this a few times, and they were always turned down, so it just slipped my mind. Maybe KKTV granted it? I'll probably never know. I did call KXRM and spoke to someone. He checked on it, called back, and gave me this BS that FOX doesn't grant waivers & the FCC hadn't made the 'rules' official yet. I don't need CBS as bad as I need FOX, so I wasn't happy.

The only good news is that D* bills out DNS at one rate, no matter how many networks that you receive.
....jc

KKTV seems to have stopped stretching their non HD shows such as their news. I noticed it today. I don't know how long they have been doing it or whether the change is temporary. I hope it is permanent.

Roy

KKTV seems to have stopped stretching their non HD shows such as their news. I noticed it today. I don't know how long they have been doing it or whether the change is temporary. I hope it is permanent.

Roy

If you have the moxi box, you got an update on it that adds the pillar bars to the side of non 16:9 when you have it set to a digital output from the box (720p, 1080i).

KKTV seems to have stopped stretching their non HD shows such as their news. I noticed it today. I don't know how long they have been doing it or whether the change is temporary. I hope it is permanent.

Roy

Yep, it's not stretched anymore. I'm using a cablecard not the Moxi and it's not stretched, comes in the same OTA also. I thought my wide mode feature of my TV was acting up, but it's them. Same as Fox and ESPN with non HD content.

This past week seems Adelphia is going through all kinds of struggles with their equipment. VOD has been up and down. I've had problems with my internet connection and it seems when the VOD is down so is my broadband. It shouldn't matter but it's more than a coincidence. The cablecard was steady for 4 days but this morning it had to be reset again. I hope this all settles down soon. Do these folks have any idea what its like having a teenage girl with no Yahoo chat available stomping around the house complaining about Adelphia? Geesh. LOL

That is weird because i have had no problem at all, i am not sure about VOD, don't use it that much. And i have had no HSI problems. You might want to call in next time it happens, you might have some problems with the cable in the house, or coming up to the house.

That is weird because i have had no problem at all, i am not sure about VOD, don't use it that much. And i have had no HSI problems. You might want to call in next time it happens, you might have some problems with the cable in the house, or coming up to the house.

I think it has a lot to do with all the changes I've made to the account in the past few weeks. Trading in both Moxi's for a CableCard and a regular HD box got them a tad confused with my settings. All seems fine today, although I still have to re-set the cablecard occasionally. I live in an older area, heck the cable coming into my house must be 25 years old by now. I'm sure they have newer better coax out there they could replace this older stuff with. Less SNR problems, better insulated/shielded cable. We re-wired the inside last year, but haven't done the outside yet.

Living in a townhome with three other units side by side you never know who is stealing cable or trying to get on your HSI connection. When I poll for wireless there is actually someone close by at 2.4 channel 6 using the default Linksys name for their lan/wan connection, unsecured, and I could access it if I wanted to. People need to watch out with these cable modems and use more security.

Yeah i have a couple neighbors that also have unsecured wireless hooked up to there cable or DSL modems. One time a while ago when my cable did go down, i jumped onto one of my neighbors that had an unsecured wireless router for an hour or so till mine was back up. I keep mine secured though.

FYI, HDNet has an hour showing premiering tonight and repeating over the next couple days about the devastation of the Gulf Coast. It’s probably the only show on this subject that’s in HD. It’s on at 6:00 pm, 9:00 pm and other repeats following.

www.hd.net

Edit: actually a half-hour show

Adelphia HD customers (particularly those with MOXI):

Does your CBS HD (channel 711) frequently switch between HD & SD on the same show? It doesn't matter what I'm watching, prime time HD shows on CBS frequently switch back and forth from HD to SD several times throughout the show. This doesn't seem to happen on any other HD channels though - just CBS.

I've experienced this since I moved here and became an Adelphia/MOXI customer 3 months ago. Anyone else have this problem on CBS?

Thanks!!

I'm OTA, not Adelphia, but KKTV tends to do that a lot with their prime time HD shows. I think someone in the control room has to flip a switch, especially after commercials, and they either forget or are late. They also have a real hard time finding the Broncos' HD feed for a 2 pm game until some other unrelated early game is done and off the air...

I'm OTA, not Adelphia, but KKTV tends to do that a lot with their prime time HD shows. I think someone in the control room has to flip a switch, especially after commercials, and they either forget or are late. They also have a real hard time finding the Broncos' HD feed for a 2 pm game until some other unrelated early game is done and off the air...

Once upon a time I emailed them about the lag and was told something about having to wait a minute or so, especially after commercials, for the west coast feed to sync and hit the receiver which is causing the delay. It just didn't sound right to me.??
As you say, I think they are asleep at the switch. The Bronco games are another matter. If we see this happening again this year we need to email them during the week prior to the game and remind them to stay awake. Once again I got the excuse that they had to wait on the feed.

I am having some people over tomorrow night to watch the game on my new projector and wanted to make sure that we'd be getting the game in HD so I called Joe Reed at KRDO-TV today and he said that because the encoding equipment they have been expecting has not arrived yet that tomorrow night's MNF game of the Pats/Raiders *WILL NOT* be broadcast in HD via KRDO. He also doesn't expect to have it in place by Monday's (9/12) game either!

Out of desperation I tried to get him to sign a waiver for me to get the LA feed from D* but no go. So I guess we'll be watching it in SD tomorrow night.

Just wanted to let everyone know!

Out of desperation I tried to get him to sign a waiver for me to get the LA feed from D* but no go. So I guess we'll be watching it in SD tomorrow night.
TP,
Have you called D* to ask? A few weeks ago I got D* to turn it on for me. The rep told me that there was a 'blanket' waiver for KRDO. I didn't really need it 'cause I get KMGH 7 from Denver, but it didn't cost me anymore, so what the hey.

Now the waiver from KRDO could just be for Teller county people(or even by zip code), but they can only say NO.

Now, I tried today to contract the general manager for KXRM, but he was out. Fox is the only HD network I still need. I'll plead my case for HD, 'cause there ain't NO WAY to get their signal up here. KDVR in Denver is no hope either, as reception for it in my area is very difficult.

Another Fox factoid: Everyone in Denver gets the West coast Fox feed, because KDVR is O & O.
....jc

What zip code do you live in? I might have to "move" if I can't get it down here. I have tried and tried and tried to get DNS but have been shot down time and time again.

The worst part of it all? I actually work for DirecTV. You'd think I'd be able to do something from within to get them, but nope. We didn't even get a discount on the HD-Tivo. I had to read about the deal being offered on the internet and then call and play CSR roulette until I found someone in account management that was willing to let me get the $299 deal.

So anyway, if you can give me a remote street name and a zip code, I'll probably just "move" to get what I need.

Thanks!

What zip code do you live in? I might have to "move" if I can't get it down here. I have tried and tried and tried to get DNS but have been shot down time and time again.
80863. But the waiver could be even more selective than that, as the SE part of WP has a good shot at Cheyenne Mtn.
The worst part of it all? I actually work for DirecTV. You'd think I'd be able to do something from within to get them, but nope.
For HP doing support?
So anyway, if you can give me a remote street name and a zip code, I'll probably just "move" to get what I need.
If you do 'move', there are many things to consider:

Up here we'll be getting 'Significantly Viewed' channels from Denver. However, it's only ABC, CBS & NBC. No FOX yet. And how the HD channels will shake out is still unknown.
'Moving' to Denver may be a good option. They s/b in the next set of cities to get HD LIL.
Look at the bright side: 90% of folk's in Denver can't get ABC OTA, and hopefully KRDO will be live in a few weeks(won't help me)!
Of course, there's also the 'ol combo move: Up here till Denver gets HD LIL, and then move there(because it could be years before C/S gets HD LIL)!
Send me a PM, and I'll get an address of somebody up here that's using Dish!

Quick question -- how do I get the 3.2 software update? Just got my Moxi today and it has the old version. Got into the "Trigger" menu and clocked "Trigger Software Update"; at the top it says "Trigger has started Software Update" but nothing is happening after more than an hour. I tried an update earlier and got the same response, and noticed that I was able to watch TV and do everything else I wanted to do. Does it just take a long time for the update to download? Do I need to turn the power off? If so, how? The power button does nothing?

Thanks!

I understand you can also "move" to a New York address and get all 4 HD New York channels as if they're your locals (not DNS). But that would change your SD locals from Colorado to New York also.

80863. and hopefully KRDO will be live in a few weeks(won't help me)!


I have been in touch with the PR director for KRDO and he says that "ABC is not making the content available to all of is stations." Yet on offical AVs list under the cities that ABC HD does go to, there are tons smaller places than here that have it. lame....

I dont think there will be HD on KRDO till next year. They continue to pass the buck on this. Thank god MNF it is moving to ESPN next year. Then we wont have to deal with the KRDO excuse dejoir next season.

At least KOAA (NBC) has information about their status on the webiste. They say November testing. Just in time for the new NHL contract.
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On another note, that KKTV thing with stretching is annoying. Especially during Bronco games. It is a complete lie about the satellite coverage too. For whatever reason they stretch the all 480i content to 16:9 including commecials during HD broadcasts. No idea why.... Chief Eng must be an idiot without an HD set of his own. If they insist on it, so be it. But seriously, they cant find a monkey who can flick that switch on time? Come on.

I have been in touch with the PR director for KRDO and he says that "ABC is not making the content available to all of is stations." Yet on offical AVs list under the cities that ABC HD does go to, there are tons smaller places than here that have it. lame....
Yeah, ABC invests millions in HD, sends it to most of their stations via satellite or whatever, but then won't give all the affiliates the secret password...sure. Please.

If we do get KRDO-HD in October, let's say, and KOAA-HD in Nov/Dec, then this will all be a distant memory...we can hope.

I currently do not have cable or dish and only get 8, 11, 13, and 21 somewhat clearly up in Gleneagle. I have been thinking of getting OTA HD (or at least digital for now) to go with my basement theater. We really don't watch too much TV, but it would be nice to see CSI and Without a Trace this season on the big screen. What types of OTA HD turners do you guys suggest. From most of what I have read it seems most people have cable or dish boxes that can also get OTA. Any help would be great!

Remember the KRDO engineer said that tonight MNF should be in HD, we shall see about that. Lets see if they throw it up on the antenna, or push it on adelphia's system. If anyone gets the MNF game tonight in HD in the springs area on KRDO let everyone else know! But i am skeptical.

I spoke with Mr. Reed the engineer at KRDO-TV yesterday afternoon. They did not receive their encoding equipment yet so he told me definitively that tonight's game *WILL NOT* be in HD. He is also doubtful that Monday's game will be HD either.

Sorry, but at least OTA it's SD or nothing.

What types of OTA HD turners do you guys suggest. From most of what I have read it seems most people have cable or dish boxes that can also get OTA. Any help would be great!
Bruno,
See this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=179095) topic. Lots of good ideas there. The LG LST-4200A is highly regarded. I have the D* compatible model, the LSS-3200A, and it's a good receiver.

Having a good receiver is one thing, probably more important is having a good antenna system!
....jc

Not sure how I missed that thread! Thanks!

E mail i just got from Joe Reed KRDO Engineer:

We have not received our HD encoder. At this time I have no date from the manufacture when the encoder will ship.
As far as the availability on cable, adelphia should pick-up whatever digital format we broadcast.

thanks for viewing
JR

KRDO's digital SD broadcast picture quality is horrible. Kudos to KKTV for leaving the SD broadcast in 4:3. That image is much sharper and better contrast especially when compared to KRDO. I find it an insult to my intelligence for the PR guy at KRDO to say that ABC doesn't send HD content to Colo Spgs. That is a total cop out. I don't believe that KRDO really wants to broadcast HD. They are broadcasting digital because they are forced to but nobody said it had to be HD or even good PQ.

Very true... actually it's so hard for me to receive their weak signal (had to use a line amp with an attentuator set to exactly one spot) that I've totally given up.

I bet the number of people watching KRDO-DT is miniscule. Hopefully the full-power HD will be done well and change all that.

I just got an OTA tuner, I'm just using a 20 year old bowtie antenna and it works great in the basement! I live 11 miles away from the towers with no direct line of sight. I get every channel around 80%.

Anyway being new to this, we only get CBS and FOX in HD? is KRDO going to get their HD going? I want to see MNF in HD before it goes to ESPN next year. NBC is coming in Nov., is it going to be HD or just digital?

KRDO is a mystery at this point, they have always been, and will continue to be behind the times. I'm actually looking forward to MNF on ESPN, their HD broadcasts are nothing short of spectacular.

KOAA is supposed to be in the proces of building their antenna on Cheyenne MTN. They haven't been very reponsive to inquiries about their DTV/HDTV plans. I'm not holding my breath waiting on them.

FOX's HD is much beter now that they are broadcasting a 720p signal instead of their lame 480p ED signal.

KRDO is a mystery at this point, they have always been, and will continue to be behind the times. I'm actually looking forward to MNF on ESPN, their HD broadcasts are nothing short of spectacular.

KOAA is supposed to be in the proces of building their antenna on Cheyenne MTN. They haven't been very reponsive to inquiries about their DTV/HDTV plans. I'm not holding my breath waiting on them.

FOX's HD is much beter now that they are broadcasting a 720p signal instead of their lame 480p ED signal.

But MNF on ESPN isn't OTA!!! I don't wanna pay for anything, heh.

CBS is pretty impressive. I enjoyed seeing J-lo in HD last night on Letterman.

I hope all our stations can get their HD going soon. I wanna see Conan's hair in HD!

Just found this thread. I got an HD-Tivo a few weeks ago and have been enjoying KKTV and KXRM's HD broadcasts. I'm using the POS roof antenna that came with the house when I bought it. I get high 80's low 90's on all channels, including the worthless KRDO.

Is it true that KOAA is going HD in November? I wonder also if KRDO will ever have an HD broadcast. In my Tivo guide it claims "Lost" is in HD but it couldn't be farther from the truth.

Welcome to the area and to this thread! Yes, we're all waiting on both stations - no definite dates but hopefully this fall for both. There's lots more info in the posts from the last week above...

Broncos in HD tomorrow - this time it counts!! (Come on, KKTV, flip the switch!)

Is today's game on CBS going to be HD? Titan TV says not, but they are wrong a lot of times regarding the games. They do advertise the Fox game at Tampa in HD.

Yep, it's in HD.
http://www.sportsline.com/cbssports/schedules/page/nfl

Yep, it's in HD.
I've seen this crap before. The game is indeed in HD. KCNC(Denver), KGWN(Cheyenne) and D*'s DNS stations(WCBS & KCBS) are all showing it as an HD game. However, there are stations that are not showing the game as HD. Included is KKTV. So, I hope you guys get the game in HD. It could be a deal with the local affiliate. Maybe CBS charges non O & O affiliates more for the HD feed?

Who knows?
....jc

Wrong. The game is in HD on KKTV right now.

However, there are stations that are not showing the game as HD. Included is KKTV
What I meant to say was 'not indicated as showing the game in HD'.
....jc

It's not looking too good to me guys, well compared to the FOX game. Camera's are out of focus again.

It's not looking too good to me guys, well compared to the FOX game. Camera's are out of focus again.
Absolutely, SD must be better! Because in HD, this game is really ugly!

Van Pelt!!!
Van Pelt!!!
Van Pelt!!!
Van Pelt!!!

A-Ha, that must be it! Bring on the BVP! Looking forward to the ESPN broadcast tonight, their HD games are always a step ahead.

What I meant to say was 'not indicated as showing the game in HD'.
....jc
Gotcha. TitanTV is generally pretty good, but they make errors like every other site I guess.

TitanTV doen't seem to know half of the stuff that KKTV puts out in HD.

Edit: I'm glad I'm at work and didn't have to watch the Broncos get destroyed in HD! :eek: BVP will be the man if he gets a chance.

The HD seemed to improve at the start of the 3rd, at least to my eyes. And before the half I thought my set had suddenly developed a stuck white pixel right in the middle of the screen. I switched channels and it was gone. Switched back to the Bronco game and there it was again, a few minutes later it disappeared for the rest of the game.
Maybe the heat affected more than the players.........

Can someone tell me what the hell is wrong with this damn forum?!? :mad: I just got 6 emails from AVS relating to Joanr's 1 response. Normally I'm damn lucky to get a single email after 1,2,3, or even 10 replies have been posted. Makes it damn difficult to stay current.

Can someone tell me what the hell is wrong with this damn forum?!? I just got 6 emails from AVS relating to Joanr's 1 response.
Cool! It wasn't just me. This has been happening frequently lately, but today(whatever the number) has set the record! :(

I got the same thing. The way it is supposed to work is that you get one e-mail, then you don't get another (even if there are more than one new post) until you chenk the posts since your last visit. We will see what happens.

Roy

The HD seemed to improve at the start of the 3rd, at least to my eyes. And before the half I thought my set had suddenly developed a stuck white pixel right in the middle of the screen. I switched channels and it was gone. Switched back to the Bronco game and there it was again, a few minutes later it disappeared for the rest of the game.
Maybe the heat affected more than the players.........
I didn't see anything like this from the OTA feed delayed with the HD-TiVo - could have been an Adelphia or Moxi thing.

Can someone tell me what the hell is wrong with this damn forum?!? :mad: I just got 6 emails from AVS relating to Joanr's 1 response. Normally I'm damn lucky to get a single email after 1,2,3, or even 10 replies have been posted. Makes it damn difficult to stay current.
Wow, somebody peed in Frank's corn flakes! :D

Yes... it does feel a bit unpredictable with the emails.

I don't know what to say about the Broncos... hopefully they pull it together soon. I think all they needed was some decent momentum. Not just a single decent play, but a string of them.

This is just bizarre! Five replies and not one email notification!

I watched part of the game on Directv Channel 83 I think it was (CBS West HD) with an HD-Tivo and the picture was great. It seemed a bit more consistent then KKTV. That is why I set-up all my Season Passes using CBS West HD. As far as the Broncos go, as I have said to all my Broncos Fan Friends for three years now, it is time for both a new QB and a new Head Coach. Shanahan has essentially done nothing without Elway. I truly feel he was more of a product of Elway, then Elway of him. For me, I have been a Patriots fan since 1986, suffered through the 1 - 15 season, so the last 4 years have been great!! Also am a huge Red Sox fan. It truly has been a great few years for my teams.

~Josh

Yeah, KKTV still has the problem with the pixelation on fast-moving parts, always has. Must be something in their MPEG re-encoding that's not as high quality as other stations. But pictures with less motion, even like the US Open tennis, are gorgeous in their 1080i vs. Fox's 720p.

Yeah, KKTV still has the problem with the pixelation on fast-moving parts, always has. Must be something in their MPEG re-encoding that's not as high quality as other stations. But pictures with less motion, even like the US Open tennis, are gorgeous in their 1080i vs. Fox's 720p.

I've been getting the redundant notifies in all my subscribed forums also. This morning there were 13 copies.

Yesterday I switched to OTA KKTV just to see if Adelphia's compression was distorting the feed, it was not as motion blurred OTA. Now I'm getting really picky, most people it wouldn't have bothered.

My set has a native resolution 720P so all the 1080i gets down converted. Fast motion is not as clear as would be a golf game due to this. The set is new so I probably need to find a few more video setting tweaks for the 1080i games. OTOH the game on ESPNHD last night was awsome, it looked perfect. The HBO showing of Rome and Shark Tales were outstanding also. This is a new Sony 3LCD 50A10 and it does have a few quirks compared to my old Sony KP RPTV.

Adelphia users, I got a lot of information this past Saturday when the level 3 tech came to fix my broadband connection. They are really taxing the local systems at this point, with VOD outages and broadband disconnects in some areas of town. According to the tech they are preparing to roll out VOip trying to stay abreast of the Verizon market and have changed a lot of settings at the headend which may affect your cable modem. As I thought they boosted the signal to my area and this resulted in the modem not being able to transmit back to them properly. It kept shutting down. He threw in some white amp which actually works in reverse to lower the resistance and things have cleared up. The cablecard has held it's settings over the weekend. But if you are seeing these kinds of problems with your broadband it's not going to clear up and you should call for one of these amp devices.

Boy am I glad I came across this site on an internet search. It sure is great to have info on HD for Colorado Springs from other who live here. After reading some of this thread I now have the answer as to why KRDO is not in HD on Adelphia. Apparently no one has it. Thought it was just me.

Vastrand,
Welcome to our little party zone. Hopefully KRDO will be in HD soon....but don't hold your breath.

...unless you can hold your breath for 30, 60 or 90 days... I know I'm never an optimist on this, but I will say that we're closer to 4 HD stations now than we've ever been! At least we're not in Denver with that low-power, no-tower nonsense.

Great to have new people here too.

By the way, the Broncos are in HD this weekend vs. San Diego on CBS at 2:15, then the Monday Night Football game on ABC vs. the Chiefs, then a non-HD game at Jacksonville at 11:00. Great. We always play so well in Florida.

...unless you can hold your breath for 30, 60 or 90 days... I know I'm never an optimist on this, but I will say that we're closer to 4 HD stations now than we've ever been!

I gave up a while ago. The stations really don't seem to care that much about what we say. That comment isn't *totally* negative, I just don't think it matters what we have to say in the grand scheme. Those stations on the track for HD have their own obstacles to overcome; no amount of us bitching has made them speed up. Cynical, but realistic.

The shining star of the stations has been Tim from KKTV - I respect the fact that he cares about his job/customers enough to actually take the time to visit boards like this and answer questions with something other than the standard form letter crap.

But bottom line - it's coming, and it'll get here when it gets here.

Oh, and I did something this weekend that I swore I'd never do - I went back to the evil Adelphia. I'd been a D* customer for 3 years, bought an HD Tivo, and had ST each year. They suspended my account while I was having a house built, and when I called to re-activate, they wanted me to commit to *another* 2 years and (of course) raised ST prices. Customer retention offered HBO for a year or some crap... no thanks.
I didn't actually cancel my account with D* (I really loved D*Tivo) so I'm seeing if I can live with the Moxi box. After a couple of days, I'm lukewarm about the switch, but we'll see what happens.

Play Doh- You will get used to the moxi box and it's quirks. Not as good as tivo, but it works well, espicall now that we got 3.2 on it.

I just got mail yesterday that the TV Guide I-guide is coming soon to the local Adelphia customers. Do you all have it on the Moxi boxes?

We're moving back next week and I'll be ordering a Moxi HD/DVR STB soon, hopefully with 3.2 firmware on it already.

-Kelly

I just got mail yesterday that the TV Guide I-guide is coming soon to the local Adelphia customers. Do you all have it on the Moxi boxes?

We're moving back next week and I'll be ordering a Moxi HD/DVR STB soon, hopefully with 3.2 firmware on it already.

-Kelly

Moxi boxes do not use the I-Guide, they have there own system, and all moxi boxes in Colorado springs i believe now have 3.2. Check this out for more info on the moxi http://www.digeo.com/prodserv/moxi_demo.jsp

Thanks Old Style. I had heard about the Moxi menus (I looked at the Moxi thread awhile back) but wasn't sure if the i-guide would supercede it or integrate somehow.

At least I was hoping for that answer since that's what we have now- One less thing to learn.

Any experts here on using the Moxi box? Mine won't pull an IP address so I can't record or get any channel lineup information. The installer was clueless on what to do. I've got a trouble call with Adelphia and they're sending someone out on Thursday but I'm sure someone on here will be more competent! I've looked on the online Moxi resources and done all the resets, IP request triggers, etc -- none of it worked. I'm wondering if it has to do with my line or something... :(

That's my guess, or the box, or how it is setup down at Adelphia. They have trouble activating things sometimes.

Moxi is growing on me a bit.. the wife loves it, so that my be 90% of my decision right there. :) It feels a tad more polished than the D*Tivo (mostly eyecandy) but is quite a bit slower. I'm getting a bit older and slowing down myself, so perhaps I'll get used to it.

Anyone want to buy a D*HDTivo? ;)

Thanks Old Style. I had heard about the Moxi menus (I looked at the Moxi thread awhile back) but wasn't sure if the i-guide would supercede it or integrate somehow.

At least I was hoping for that answer since that's what we have now- One less thing to learn.

The new i-guide is on the Motorola 6200 and it's a PITA! More eye candy and a grid style flip bar but it's gui is excessive and causes more interaction with the menu system. Guess I'll have to get used to it, but it's still preferable to the Moxi menu which I absolutely couldn't stand.

Any experts here on using the Moxi box? Mine won't pull an IP address so I can't record or get any channel lineup information. The installer was clueless on what to do. I've got a trouble call with Adelphia and they're sending someone out on Thursday but I'm sure someone on here will be more competent! I've looked on the online Moxi resources and done all the resets, IP request triggers, etc -- none of it worked. I'm wondering if it has to do with my line or something... :(

Sounds like your box got deauthorized, this has happened to me a few times a while ago, they can fix it over the phone, but you just got to keep calling in till you get somebody knowledgeable of the moxi (about 1 out of every 20 are). but the easiest way is keep the appointment, then when the guy comes out he can call into the local office to re-authorize the box. And he will stay there until it gets fixed, he might even have to replace the box to.

Seems Adelphia is having all sorts of problems lately, especially keeping IP's constant. Since the Moxi is both an HD DVR and a cable modem it fits with all the problems I've been having with my HSI connections. Up and down all day long, and it's affecting my cablecard also. I've quit calling, I don't see an end to any of these problems as long as they continue taxing an allready overtaxed system. Their employees (field techs mainly) are on the verge and are all extremely stressed with the huge volume of service calls mostly due to headend problems and not the client equipment. Now with the VOip they are even more stressed. It's not a good situation.

We have more pressing needs here in the Springs.....like getting us NBC and ABC in HD!!! :eek:
I WANT MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL IN HD!!! :mad:
At least KKTV finally quit stretching out the screen on the non-HD broadcasts!! :D

I thought I'd be watching lost in HD as well. Way to go KRDO...you managed to really let us all down. :(

The few times that I've actually gotten a response from KRDO via email or from talking to anyone there, well let's just say they don't seem to give a damn that the world around them is changing. They were the last local station to broadcast in stereo, the last local station to put up a web site, their news set is so outdated, etc, etc.

They are suffering from a severe case of Cow-Town metality, always have and always will.

We have more pressing needs...
Now that is a blunt screen name!

Welcome!

The slow 2 stations frustrate me to no end too. But I do have to give props to KKTV and KXRM for putting up the money to broadcast full-power HD before there was much return for it. 2 out of 4. Hopefully 4 out of 4 by year-end.

They are suffering from a severe case of Cow-Town metality, always have and always will.
Moooooo

Let's keep calling JR at KRDO Engineering, since they are supposedly pretty close and are working on the last few pieces of going HD. Would it be rude to post his phone number here?

The few times that I've actually gotten a response from KRDO via email or from talking to anyone there, well let's just say they don't seem to give a damn that the world around them is changing.
I really don't think it's KRDO. It's ABC:

This is easy - KRDO is not broadcasting in HD...
KMGH(Denver) is broadcasting genuine HD at 1.9kw - 90% of Denver can't receive their signal...
They are broadcasting a whopping 3 college football games in HD this year!
CBS & FOX are broadcasting most of their NFL games in HD(and more college games)...
They don't give HD waivers out(not easily anyway)...

The proof is in their actions(inactions?). They don't GAF, and it's our choice to put up with it, or watch something else.
....jc

Yeah, but ABC nationally has basically all their primetime lineup in HD, which must cost millions. I don't think they control their affiliates, especially when they are locally owned like here in CowTown, so they can't make their affiliates spend the money.

At least we're not stuck like Denver where the lawsuits and stuff won't let stations build the towers they need to go full power.

It's days like this where I really miss Tampa. We had all the networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) in HD.

:(

For Frank,
Not to nickpick too much but KRDO is still not broadcasting stereo. It' a mono signal.

For Frank,
Not to nickpick too much but KRDO is still not broadcasting stereo. It' a mono signal.
See what I mean!! :)

That stereo audio is just a fad that will die out...

Moooooo

Let's keep calling JR at KRDO Engineering, since they are supposedly pretty close and are working on the last few pieces of going HD. Would it be rude to post his phone number here?

POST IT!!!! We must demand action!!!!
Remember back in the early '80's when cable company's wouldn't run MTV, too bad we can't get rid of it now but thats another story :rolleyes: , but MTV ran those ads for 'I WANT MY MTV"

We need one for "I WANT MY HD"!!!! Anybody around here got the cash to make some commercials?? ;)

I found a contact list for KRDO but this message board is restricting me until I make 5 posts :confused: :mad:

So fine...look up in google "krdo contact" and its the first one that comes up

POST IT!!!! We must demand action!!!!
Remember back in the early '80's when cable company's wouldn't run MTV, too bad we can't get rid of it now but thats another story :rolleyes: , but MTV ran those ads for 'I WANT MY MTV"

We need one for "I WANT MY HD"!!!! Anybody around here got the cash to make some commercials?? ;)

I found a contact list for KRDO but this message board is restricting me until I make 5 posts :confused: :mad:

So fine...look up in google "krdo contact" and its the first one that comes up

We've all been emailing them for a long time now. Keep in mind that the deadline is for DT and not HDTV, which they don't by law have to provide to us anytime soon. At least KRDO is getting in the headend equipment which is a step in the right direction. NBC should be up soon, so I'd say by December we should see 4 stations local HD, five if you want to count PBS. I don't think sending them nasty grams is going to help.

I think phone calls are more effective than emails. On phone calls, we can sound more like real, reasonable people. Telling them that they're idiots will probably not help much, I would guess.

You didn't get this number from me: 575-6213

575-6213

Thanks for posting that info. I haven't had much response with email lately.

Only 1 week until the Broncos on Monday Night Football - if they're close, maybe our phone calls can motivate them to finish it up!

Well, something was off on the HD-Tivo's guide the last couple of days and as a result I missed 2 shows that I was looking forward to.

Does anyone here have this week's episodes of Reunion ("1987") and/or Threshold ("Pilot") that they can burn to a DVD or Video-CD or even VHS so I can keep up?

I'll be happy to reimburse for the cost of media and/or time if necessary. I figured I'd try here locally before going elsewhere on the net with my hat in hand.

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!

Ed

I'm watching the TN vs FL game in wonderful HD right now. Awesome!

I also want to ask ABC a question or two:

How many college football games did you broadcast today?

Uh Huh.

And how many were in HD.

Zero.

Hmmmm. Why do I think that you suck?

Well, something was off on the HD-Tivo's guide the last couple of days and as a result I missed 2 shows that I was looking forward to.

Does anyone here have this week's episodes of Reunion ("1987") and/or Threshold ("Pilot") that they can burn to a DVD or Video-CD or even VHS so I can keep up?

I'll be happy to reimburse for the cost of media and/or time if necessary. I figured I'd try here locally before going elsewhere on the net with my hat in hand.

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!

Ed

Due to the presidential address Thursday night Reunion was not shown, so you did not miss anything. I am assuming the same thing for Threshold. So your Tivo did not screw up, the president screwed you over. According to my moxi guide "1987" will be shown next week

Well, actually, the TIVO did screw up on Threshold. The guide was off an hour so I got Big Brother for the first half of the 2-hour time block that was to be the 2-hour premiere of Threshold.

So if anybody happens to have that I still need a copy.

Thanks!

There are several download sites online if you have high speed internet- That's what I learned to do when I missed my precious Lost last winter.

-Kelly

Well, something was off on the HD-Tivo's guide the last couple of days and as a result I missed 2 shows that I was looking forward to.

Does anyone here have this week's episodes of Reunion ("1987") and/or Threshold ("Pilot") that they can burn to a DVD or Video-CD or even VHS so I can keep up?

Ed

Wow, the Broncos stink. Hope the 2nd half is completely different.

And how many times to we have to hear the overdramatized CBS NFL music? They even play it during in-game promos... it's killing me.

Thanks for posting that info. I haven't had much response with email lately.


Ditto. Let them know there are more than 5 people with HD in the area- We have at least 10, right? :p Let's keep them on their toes at KRDO.

Wow, the Broncos stink. Hope the 2nd half is completely different. SHHHH!!! I haven't watched the game yet, gotta make time tomorrow for it.

Kelly,

Can you PM me with some links?

Thanks!

A change of subjects a bit, but I just wanted to pass on to those of you who don't have HD TiVo yet....GET IT!

I just did due to the fact that I found out calling Customer Retention (DirecTV) can buy you substantial savings on the HR10-250. This may be old news, but I got mine for $299 plus $100 rebate, $10 off monthly bill for 6 months, HBO/Showtime each for $2/month for six months! All I had to do was ask. Of course I had to commit to 2 more years, but I vowed years ago never to go back to the cable monster.

Man, oh, man....how did we survive without TiVo???????

Ditto. Let them know there are more than 5 people with HD in the area- We have at least 10, right? :p Let's keep them on their toes at KRDO.

God I wish the Broncos game was in HD next Monday.. Thanks for screwing it up.... again.

I didnt even know they werent in stereo. Not surprised though. You know I should check,... are they broadcasting in color??

are they broadcasting in color??Yes, but only 2 or 3.

Like HDTV, color is also a fad that may or may not result in more advertising dollars for the stations...

Well, I see KKTV has picked up where they left off last year. 20 minutes into CSI Miami and KKTV still has not flipped the switch. The Opening scene was in HD, but after that for 23 minutes in 4x3 SD. As I was typing this they finally flipped the switch. Thanks KKTV

Well, I see KKTV has picked up where they left off last year. 20 minutes into CSI Miami and KKTV still has not flipped the switch. The Opening scene was in HD, but after that for 23 minutes in 4x3 SD. As I was typing this they finally flipped the switch. Thanks KKTV

That is surprising.... They seemed to have dumped that whole scheme of stretching 4:3 content. (thank god!)

Was it stretched or was it just in 4:3? If it is the latter, that might actually not be their fault.

Did I mention I hate KRDO?

Yeah, KKTV's first 5 minutes or so of King of Queens tonight was 4:3 SD, then flipped to 16:9 HD. But it's a good decision overall that their SD, like news, is not stretched anymore.

ABC has now shown 3 NFL games and KRDO is STILL NOT broadcasting in HD!! :mad:
Pretty safe bet that tomorrow night's premier of Lost will NOT be in HD either! :mad:

Guess I will NEVER watch a KRDO or KOAA newscast the way HD has gone in this town. (OK, suppossedly KOAA had some kind of dispute with the FCC, but still...)

I'll throw my support to the networks that have supported HD and watch KXRM & KKTV newscasts!!

Rob :mad:

Yank your $1,000,000 advertising contract with them and they may actually care. Sucks to be us!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Looks like KOAA pushed out there DT date further.

KOAA and HDTV - Updated 09-19-05
On November 12 th 2004, the FCC granted KOAA their Construction Permit (CP) for Digital Television (DTV) KOAA-DT. KOAA has purchased the associated digital transmitter equipment from the manufacturer, the installation of some of the equipment is in progress. The construction process of the transmitter building has begun as well. The estimated time of building completion is December 2005, after which the installation of the previously purchased equipment can be installed weather permitting. The on air date of KOAA-DT is tentatively scheduled for December of 2005. Programming will be all “standard definition” digital and will have 4 hours of High Definition in prime time hours, as well as a few programs during the daytime schedule when it is available. The format (4X3 vs. 16X9) will depend on the supplier of the programs, our NBC HDTV should always be in 1080i. For more information on HDTV in general go to the Advanced Television web site.

Good thing there's never any holidays or bad weather in December... Oh well, at least it's coming. The February Olympics need to be in HD.

Has anyone gotten an update from KRDO Engineering on their timetable?

OK, we all want to see the Broncos in HD on Monday night against the Chiefs, right? KRDO hasn't stepped up yet, but you shouldn't have to watch in SD, should you? Plus it's been mentioned that we should have get-togethers to see each others' theaters and get to know each other... You're all invited to my house Monday night to watch the Broncos beat up the Chiefs, on ABC-HD!

It's a long story that I won't go into here, but I do get ABC in HD (not OTA). :D All you diehard fans, and even marginal fans, shouldn't have to watch a blurry, ugly football game! My theater is nothing to write home about, no 9,750-watt sub like Zimkas, but it will work well for this (65" calibrated Mits RPTV, large room can hold a bunch of people, tower speakers should provide more John Madden than you could ever need...)

I'll record the game and we can start right at 7:30, slightly delayed, and still get done at 10:00 or whenever the live game is done. That way you can leave your house at 7:00 or 7:15 (don't listen to the radio on the way!) and see the game with fewer commercials. We live 5 minutes from the Gleneagle exit of I-25 on the north end of town.

I think it will be fun to meet each other in 3 dimensions too. A few guidelines:
- let's do adults only (HT geeks + significant others); my kids will be going to bed and the game runs kind of late - reserve your babysitter now!
- we are a nonsmoking, nondrinking household, but it will still be a blast
- if you can, bring one snack food or bottle of soda (we'll have some here too)

Post a public reply here if you want to come, and mention whether it's 1 or 2 people. Assuming we have enough interest to do it, I'll PM directions to everyone on Monday. Let's try to get between 10 and 20 folks to do this - should be a blast!

GO BRONCOS! GO BRONCOS!

I'm interested in seeing the game Tall Guy. There is a possibility I may need to go out of town on business but I won't know until Saturday.

It's a long story that I won't go into here, but I do get ABC in HD (not OTA). :D


I wish I could get up there.... Very generous of you.


But more importantly, can we get the reader's digest version of how you got ABC HD?

But more importantly, can we get the reader's digest version of how you got ABC HD?

He "moved".

claiming residence in area where locals are available in HD through D*.

Thanks for working on putting this together TallGuy. Watching that 'bonus' game last week starting in SD on KRDO which then moved to ESPNHD reminded me what a let down it is watching MNF in SD knowing there is a better version out there.

I've been a lurker on this thread for awhile, always hoping to check in and see someone announce that ABC/NBC/PBS are finally broadcasting HD in this town. Hopefully it will finally happen this year.

Anyway, please add me as one to the list.

Thanks,

Roger

Great to have you here Roger!

One yes and one maybe...I thought there would be more interest...I'll give it until Sunday night to decide if it's worth doing...

Tall guy, I'm in if you're still having the get together.

Thanks,
Bob

TG,
Tried like crazy to come up with a way to be there but it just ain't happening. Between work and my son's football practice I'm not able to be there. Hope you have a good turnout....even without my 10,000,000 watt sub!;)

Tall Guy - I can't make it Monday, but I would still love to get together at some point to see your system. I live in Gleneagle so we really shouldn't have any excuse not to have a get-together.

Ok

Hi everyone. I originally posted this to the Samsung 1080P thread and someone was kind enough to show me this thread:

Through a twist of fate, I can pull in all the analog and a few digital stations off of Adelphia with my HLR6168. I don't have cable, only broadband with them, but it seems they left off the filter when they burried a new service line a while back. Anyone know how to find out where the digital stations might be? When I do an auto scan it pulls in 333 channels, most of them report scrambled or low signal when I tune to them. A few successes so far are:

PBS-SD on 8-708
CBS-HD on 11-711
ABC-SD on 13-1
ESPNHD on 80-1
DiscoveryHD on 80-2

I can't find FOX yet though. I know FOX is broadcasting in HD here; that ABC is digital-SD only; and NBC is not yet digital. My TV locates a station where I expect to find FOX at 21-2 and labels it as "KXRM Tu" but the TV claims the signal is too low and there is no audio or video.

Finally, once I find these channels, has anyone had any success tuning them in on an HDTiVo (via Adelphia)? I'm in a rather severe valley with no clear path to Cheyenne Mt., so an antenna is not likely to be a workable solution. I did try hooking the cable up to the Tivo, but it couldn't find anything.

Smahon, I do not know the answer to most of your question, but 21-2 is the Tube. It is an all music video channel from the owners of the local FOX (Raycom). Fox's local HD feed is 21-1 on OTA. 8-1, 11-1 and 13-1 are all OTA signals, not Adelphia.

I also have a question though. I am switching to Adelphia today, and I have a Samsung SIR TS360. It is a DirecTV HD receiver, but it has the capability to receive OTA and cable channels. Has any one with Adelphia had any luck with third party receivers? My instinct says that I will probably only get the analog channels, but I am hoping for them all. I am getting the Moxi for my living room, but I also have a HD TV in my bedroom that I would like to get HD on, so that is where I plan on putting my TS360. My wife watches TV in the bedroom most of the time, so it would have to have TLC, Discovery Health and those types of channels, along with Music Choice. I hate to lose the all digital DTV and have most of my channels in analog, but to be able to record HD without paying hundreds of dollars should make me happy. Thanks for any help.

mrtolles, I expect you will be in the same boat with me, as my Samsung TV (HLR6168) has a "digital cable ready" tuner. I was hoping (beyond hope) that I would find the local digitals in their OTA locations on the wire so that my HDTivo would be able to find them as if I had an antenna.

smahon,

Most of the digital channels over Adelphia are scrambled, but there are a few they leave clear. I do have analog cable service with them and read somewhere (this forum or elsewhere online) that some manager at Adelphia when asked didn't have an issue with people with their own digital tuners using them to get the basic HD channels they leave unscrambled. Since I mainly just wanted the basic HD channels anyway and not all of the other digital packages they required to get their full HD package, I decided to try just a tuner. With my LG combo DVD player/digital tuner, the following are the QAM channels I get:

80-1 ESPNHD
80-2 DiscoveryHD
89-1 ABC(SD)
89-2 PBS(SD)
94-2 CSTV(SD)
104-2 FOX(HD)
104-3 CBS(HD)
...and a few preview channels and audio only channels which I usually erase from the channel memory for easier navigation.

I think these are the direct QAM channels they use internally which aren't mapped to match the broadcast channel numbers. Not sure about TIVO as I've never tried that.

I too live in a valley with solid rock between me and Cheyenne Mtn, so OTA is not an option.

BTW, when I first got a cable modem without cable a few years back I too had the analog signals unfiltered. They put a filter on it a few months later. So don't be surprised if the filter is added in their box sometime after the initial installation.

Roger

A thanks to TallGuy for hosting the MNF HD get-together last night.

Even though only a couple of us could make it, it was a great presentation of a great game (Go Broncos!) and a fun time. Thanks again Nathan!

smahon,

Most of the digital channels over Adelphia are scrambled, but there are a few they leave clear. I do have analog cable service with them and read somewhere (this forum or elsewhere online) that some manager at Adelphia when asked didn't have an issue with people with their own digital tuners using them to get the basic HD channels they leave unscrambled. Since I mainly just wanted the basic HD channels anyway and not all of the other digital packages they required to get their full HD package, I decided to try just a tuner. With my LG combo DVD player/digital tuner, the following are the QAM channels I get:

80-1 ESPNHD
80-2 DiscoveryHD
89-1 ABC(SD)
89-2 PBS(SD)
94-2 CSTV(SD)
104-2 FOX(HD)
104-3 CBS(HD)
...and a few preview channels and audio only channels which I usually erase from the channel memory for easier navigation.

I think these are the direct QAM channels they use internally which aren't mapped to match the broadcast channel numbers. Not sure about TIVO as I've never tried that.

I too live in a valley with solid rock between me and Cheyenne Mtn, so OTA is not an option.

BTW, when I first got a cable modem without cable a few years back I too had the analog signals unfiltered. They put a filter on it a few months later. So don't be surprised if the filter is added in their box sometime after the initial installation.

Roger


I have cable internet without a filter for analog TV signals aswell. How do I get these digital channels to show up on my tuner? I have a Radio Shack Accurian HDTV tuner.

When I set my tuner from OTA to cable I have 3 options:

STD
HRC
IRC

I can't seem to get any signals from the cable on any setting.

I have cable internet without a filter for analog TV signals aswell. How do I get these digital channels to show up on my tuner? I have a Radio Shack Accurian HDTV tuner.

When I set my tuner from OTA to cable I have 3 options:

STD
HRC
IRC

I can't seem to get any signals from the cable on any setting.

Does the Radio Shack STB have a QAM tuner or just ATSC. The one I saw on the RS web site (forum won't let me post the URL) just noted an ATSC tuner. The tuner must specifically be able to decode digital cable signals (QAM) and not just over-the-air signals (ATSC).

... the following are the QAM channels I get:

80-1 ESPNHD
80-2 DiscoveryHD
89-1 ABC(SD)
89-2 PBS(SD)
94-2 CSTV(SD)
104-2 FOX(HD)
104-3 CBS(HD)
...and a few preview channels and audio only channels which I usually erase from the channel memory for easier navigation.



Thanks COSRS. I have also found all the music channels, the preview channels, CSTV and one other channel (forget the name). So really, the only one I haven't found is FOX. I'll look again tonight when I get home. I am holding out very little hope for TiVo though, since I believe it is an ATSC tuner only.

Does the Radio Shack STB have a QAM tuner or just ATSC. The one I saw on the RS web site (forum won't let me post the URL) just noted an ATSC tuner. The tuner must specifically be able to decode digital cable signals (QAM) and not just over-the-air signals (ATSC).

Yup, your right. I guess it can only decode 8VSB encoded cable channels, while most cable systems use QAM encoding. Darn!

Yes, the HD-TiVo is definitely ATSC and D* only.

Subject change :D

Anybody hear any word on when/if Fox Sports Rocky Mountain will start broadcasting in HD......I want to watch the Rockies lose in glorious HD ;)

and then of course waiting for Crudelphia to add it to their channel lineup and hike up the prices and ............uggg.....maybe satellite is the way to go :( :mad: :eek: :) :D

My TV's channel menu can search for channels using STD, HRC, or IRC and there are separate settings for analog and digital. HRC pulls in exactly 0 digital stations, STD and IRC pulls in the same list of 355 stations. After exhaustively tuning to each one, these are the stations I can actually tune in (still no FOX!):

8-708 PBS-SD
11-711 KKTV-HD
13-1 KRDO-SD
80-1 ESPN-HD
80-2 DSC-HD
94-2 CSTV-SD
106-2 TRIO-SD
109-26 Preview channel with video only in upper right corner (TV Guide background?)
110-2 InDemand PPV previews
110-8 Some InDemand PPV channel, in the clear, showing "The Ring Two" all night long

I also can tune in dozens of Music Choice channels, including the video snapshots that go along with them. So I guess I'm batting about 90%. I'm still baffeled why I can't find Fox though.

2007 will probably be the earliest that DirecTV could do Altitude-HD or FSRM-HD. They have to get on the new satellites and even then they will probably be focused on getting all the non-top-12 local markets' HD stations up on the satellite. Seems like cable has the advantage there having only a set number of HD stations to be able to carry (though I hate to say it).

FSRM has to be one of the smallest FSR stations - I don't think that many people watch the Rockies. So if they go by revenue or viewership, when will they be able to invest in it? Someone needs to call them too, just like KRDO. At least Altitude tried to do a few HD games last year, though I don't know how well they were carried even in Denver.

Anybody else notice that KKTV's HD programs are in 4x3 lately?
ARRGGHH!!!!!!! :mad:

I think they had things right again tonight, but, 'yes', I did notice that last night's programming was NOT in HD (at least from 7 to9). Go Colorado Springs!!!

They had a 50/50 chance too! Let's see...4x3, or 16x9...which should this be...???

Anyone know why they have to do it manually? Is it too expensive for them to buy equipment that would detect the HD and switch it automatically?

I just got our Moxi box a few days ago with Adelphia. The tech said that Comcast is supposed to take over in January...

Does anyone know why I'm not getting INHD and INHD2 and HDNet today? Do I have to sign up for the digital plus package to get it ? I asked for the "HD" package. I have digital cable but not "digital plus" but I miss my INHD :mad:

Also, a couple times today 132 and 142 wouldn't show up (The Tube and Fine Living) until I rebooted the Moxi box. Are these service interruptions common? I was watching Alias last night in KRDO-digital and lost signal and had to switch to analog the last 10 minutes! The broadcast HD's came back after I rebooted.

Does anyone know why I'm not getting INHD and INHD2 and HDNet today? Do I have to sign up for the digital plus package to get it ? I asked for the "HD" package. I have digital cable but not "digital plus" but I miss my INHD :mad:
Happened to me too. When they first install the box you get EVERY channel. Once they close out your order you then only get the channels you signed up for. That said, are you getting HDNet Movies? What about the locals? If so then you should be getting HDNet -- I believe it's part of the HD package. INHD 1 and 2 are $5 a month extra and you have to ask for it specifically...

No, I'm not getting HDNet movies either. Just the locals and ESPN and Discovery HD. I guess I'll have to call and spend $5 MORE because I want the HDNet's and INHD's so I have more than a couple HD channels.

Yeah, getting all the channels was great while it lasted (about 1/2 day). A couple times I didn't get ANY channels over 100 (digital or HD) and had to reboot the Moxi... grr. This had better stabilize soon.

-Kelly

What happened to HBO-HD? The channel lineup shows it as HBOEAST now....

Kinda sad when I can get a quicker and better answer from our friends on this board than by calling "customer support"

What happened to HBO-HD? The channel lineup shows it as HBOEAST now....
Uh, since this is the OTA thread, which provider are you talking about?
....jc

My HBO-HD is still there on my moxi.

Hey everyone...

703 has tonights HD-PPV boxing event for $3.95.

Compared to the $50 on 301 for the SD version or $60 on D* for the HD version.

I just ordered it after being very skeptical and not finding any info about it being so cheap in the HD Programming area here.

Just letting anyone know before the main fights start up.

Uh, since this is the OTA thread, which provider are you talking about?
....jc


Local HDTV Info and Reception
This area is for the chat about the local HDTV stations. Also includes talk on antenna type and reception including HD Cable.


Adelphia.

I have DTV and was offered the HDTivo for $220 after credits etc.

Still looking at Adelphia though.

Questions:

Can I only get local HD over OTA?

Is it consistent between DTV and Adelphia?

Do I need waivers for NBC and ABC since they don't broadcast HD?

Are they automatic or do I need to write letters?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Regards,

Bob

Adelphia sucks!!!

Broncos vs Jags NOT in HD!!!???!!

ARRRRGHHHH!!!!! B :mad:

What the heck? NO HD for broncos? or is KKTV not flipping the switch agian??

This we can blame on CBS....
...but I still think Adelphia sucks :D
CBS SPORTS TV SCHEDULE
Sat., Oct. 1st
College Football
College Football Today 3-3:30 p.m.
Florida @ Alabama* 3:30-7 p.m.
Sun., Oct. 2nd
NFL
The NFL Today 12-1 p.m.
Indianapolis @ Tennessee* 1-4 p.m.
Denver @ Jacksonville 1-4 p.m.
Buffalo @ New Orleans 1-4 p.m.
San Diego @ New England* 1-4 p.m.
Houston @ Cincinnati 1-4 p.m.
N.Y. Jets @ Baltimore* 4:15-7 p.m.
* -- HDTV

Damn Cheap ass CBS.

Did y'all know this? ABC is broadcasting the next Super Bowl :mad: :( :confused:
I sure hope KRDO has their act together by then.

Super Bowl XL will be the 40th Super Bowl, championship game of the National Football League, the major professional league of American football. The contest will be played on February 5, 2006 at Ford Field in Detroit, Michigan, home of the Detroit Lions, and telecast on ABC in the United States. With the expiration of current television contracts among ABC, CBS, ESPN and FOX following the 2005 season, the game will be the final telecast for ABC after thirty-six seasons with the NFL, at least for the foreseeable future. Al Michaels and John Madden will be in the broadcast booth for the game, and it is expected that ESPN's Chris Berman will host the lengthy pre-game show, which is scheduled to begin at 2:30 p.m. EST. The opening kickoff is scheduled at 6:30 p.m. EST.

Damn Cheap ass CBS.
You s/b glad it's not ABC! Other than MNF, they are broadcasting a wopping 3 regular season college games in HD this year! :mad:

CBS is broadcasting about 1/2 the NFL games in HD, and by next year I'm willing to bet that they all will be in HD.
....jc

I have DTV and was offered the HDTivo for $220 after credits etc.

Still looking at Adelphia though.

Questions:

Can I only get local HD over OTA?

Is it consistent between DTV and Adelphia?

Do I need waivers for NBC and ABC since they don't broadcast HD?

Are they automatic or do I need to write letters?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Regards,

Bob

KOAA (NBC) and KRDO (ABC) will not approve waivers if you are in the Springs. KKTV (CBS) and KXRM (FOX) are both available over the air.

Thanks for the response. Sounds like I should wait on HD.

Regards,

Bob

Bob,
It's all about your money, but having had HD for a few years it's really tough to watch anything else. HD content is better now than it was back then and will continue to improve. Do what's best for you and your wallet, but you might end up waiting a long time ABC and NBC. CATV and DBS have HD channels to help fill the void while we wait.


I was really hoping to see LOST in HD this year, but I'm not too confident in KRDO at this point. Probably just forget about watching anymore this year and wait for the box set to come out. If the local stations can't or won't provide the product I want, I'll simply watch a station that will.