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ScottChez 08-24-05, 12:42 PM Hmmm, I wonder what WB15 (DTV channel 38) will be doing with there Sub channel?
For the last year they have been broadcasting KPTM on 38-2 since they are having DTV issues.
The rumor I just heard is they are in contract talks with PAX for a full time sub channel (Independent channel with Pax network when avl).
Maybe a PAX sub channel on 38-2 someday? The KPTM DTV issues sounds like it will be fixed soon and they will not be needed on 38-2 anymore.
The source was sure to point out that Pappas does not own WB-15, they only contract out to broadcast it and that Pappas already owns two channels here (WB and that Spanish channel).
That would leave KETV and KM3 WITH OUT a Sub channel. We still need a good Sports or Weather sub channel. Any takers? Got to be a good chance for some extra profit there somewhere in those DTV waves . . .
ScottChez 08-24-05, 06:51 PM ====BREAKING NEWS===============
Did I miss something or did we just gain an other HDTV station today?
DTV channel 36 KHIN Iowa PBS 36-1 the HDTV feed and 36-2 (the analog)
It comes in stronger than 32-1 and 32-2 (dtv 33-1 )
in fact I cant even get 33-1 anymore. Is it off the air?
I thought 33-1 and 33-2 was the other Iowa PBS? KGIN or s omething.
Anyone else seeing this?
boardmanDJ 08-24-05, 07:43 PM That's 36 out of Red Oak. From Lincoln, we usually get 36 better than 32.
DT-35 should be the originating channel, and I see nothing on there at the moment. Possibly testing at a lower power. No fair :(
hammer32 08-24-05, 08:08 PM I picked up KHIN 36-1 and -2 and KBIN 32-1 and -2 this afternoon while setting up a new HD TiVo (woohoo!). On a side note KM3's signal wouldn't stay constant for me (south Bellevue, 36th and Spring), I take it their still waiting on FCC approval to go high power?
Anyone know where the guide info for these two would come from (D* or on the HD signal maybe...)?
I'm receiving KHIN 36-1 & 2. The MyHD MDP-130 card is reporting 100% signal strength, but I'm only about 20 miles from Red Oak.
Tom
Huskerfan 08-25-05, 01:32 AM I can't seem to download via firewire to my laptop anything from my Cox HD box (6412). I tried it successfully about 6 months ago using the instructions I got from this forum. Have they somehow blocked it? I know they don't want us to download digital streams, but I just want to free up some room on my box. Seems like I can only get about 6-8 HD shows on the hard drive.
Stecchino 08-25-05, 10:47 AM A Lincoln/Omaha thread! How sweet is that?
I've lived in Lincoln for about 5 years and my new wife and I are buying a home and setting up a home theater for watching movies and TV. I have a few basic questions I'm hoping my fellow Nebraskan home theater enthusiasts won't mind answering.
In Lincoln, Time Warner provides the cable service. So, do I NEED Time Warner's "HD Tier" to get HD content? (This is tricky because you "must" also subscribe to their Digital Tier "to get to the HD content.") I know the major networks broadcast over the air, so I guess I've just answered my first question. What's the best way to receive that HD content?
My potential set up is this. I'm looking at an entry-level DLP projector, the InFocus 4805. It will be mounted on the ceiling about 10-13 feet away from the screen, but the cabling will need to be more like 20 feet or more to get to the components. I only mention this because I know I'll need to use component video cables as opposed to DVI/HDMI due to the distance from source.
What have some of you done for kind of setup? We will probably get the basic basic plan from Time Warner ($14.75/month) and NO DVR from them, either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's what I think I need to do...
Plug the coaxial cable directly into the HDTV receiver. Plug component video cables from the HDTV receiver and the DVD player into some type of component switcher box because the InFocus only has one set of component inputs. Then plug the component cables from the box into the projector. Is that correct thinking? Do I need to buy an antenna to receive the HDTV signals or what?
ANY and all help is appreciated.
Huskerfan 08-25-05, 02:45 PM O.K. So I guess the question is: Has Cox started copy protection on their digital feeds in the Omaha area?
MattInLincoln 08-25-05, 04:05 PM I'm not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but 6.2 is now showing a message that UPN programming will start October 3rd at 6:00 pm.
boardmanDJ 08-25-05, 05:06 PM A Lincoln/Omaha thread! How sweet is that?
In Lincoln, Time Warner provides the cable service. So, do I NEED Time Warner's "HD Tier" to get HD content? (This is tricky because you "must" also subscribe to their Digital Tier "to get to the HD content.") I know the major networks broadcast over the air, so I guess I've just answered my first question. What's the best way to receive that HD content?
My potential set up is this. I'm looking at an entry-level DLP projector, the InFocus 4805. It will be mounted on the ceiling about 10-13 feet away from the screen, but the cabling will need to be more like 20 feet or more to get to the components. I only mention this because I know I'll need to use component video cables as opposed to DVI/HDMI due to the distance from source.
What have some of you done for kind of setup? We will probably get the basic basic plan from Time Warner ($14.75/month) and NO DVR from them, either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's what I think I need to do...
Plug the coaxial cable directly into the HDTV receiver. Plug component video cables from the HDTV receiver and the DVD player into some type of component switcher box because the InFocus only has one set of component inputs. Then plug the component cables from the box into the projector. Is that correct thinking? Do I need to buy an antenna to receive the HDTV signals or what?
ANY and all help is appreciated.
If you go to the Time Warner site ( http://www.twcnebraska.com ) and look at their HD section, there are some channels that are part of the $6.95 HD tier, and other HD channels that are not. I believe all the Over The Air channels are not part of the $6.95 tier.
Those are sent in the clear, and can be received on an HD OTA box (or television with an integrated HD tuner), as long as it can get QAM channels. You should not need to subscribe to the digitial tier.
WOWT is on 79.01
KETV is on 80.02
KOLN is on 79.02
PBS is on 80.01
Your best bet is to attempt to pick these stations up directly over the air. Some of the channels offer extra programming on sub channels, not carried by the cable companies. Also, a portion of the quality may suffer through cable because they squeeze a lot into their bandwidth.
http://www.video-storm.com/ has some afforable video switchers that will handle component video. I have one to switch 4 devices, and it works great.
jasonhuebert 08-25-05, 09:03 PM I get picture on 6-2, but no audio. Is that what other people are getting?
andersa 08-25-05, 10:08 PM O.K. So I guess the question is: Has Cox started copy protection on their digital feeds in the Omaha area?
It seems so. I have problems too.
Well, it was fun while it lasted...
Stecchino,
If you are planning to do a surround sound system now or in the future I'd recommend that you use a reciever as the switching control center for your system. I'd look at the Denons if you are on a budget (i.e. AVR-1705) since they tend to have 3 component video inputs on some of their lower priced receivers.
Also, I'm sure budget is an issue for you but if at all possible I'd recommend looking at a projector that has at least an 800x600 resolution. The projectors with 480 lines of horizontal resolution can have fairly substantial screen door effect (unless your screen is going to be 80 inches or less).
Huskerfan 08-26-05, 03:26 PM It seems so. I have problems too.
Well, it was fun while it lasted...
Well, I'm not giving up just yet. I called Cox and they said all ports are active on the box (which doesn't really mean anything). And I tried a different way to view the file and got a small sampling to cooperate. I will have to tinker around with it more tonight.....
KETV-DT will be off the air for a short while, a tower crew is repairing the strobe lights near the antenna.
fingersdlp 08-26-05, 10:01 PM Well, I'm not giving up just yet. I called Cox and they said all ports are active on the box (which doesn't really mean anything). And I tried a different way to view the file and got a small sampling to cooperate. I will have to tinker around with it more tonight.....
Around the first of this month they enabled the 5c encryption on the firewire for the premium channels. Then they shut it off about a week later. Then they turned it back on again :(
You can still record channels like 814 and the locals. I am guessing INHD, Discovery, ESPN, etc are also OK but I have not tried them. HBO and SHOW are not working now.
You can only record them now with a 5c enabled device such as a JVC DVHS player. There are no firewire cards for PC that are 5c enabled.
I hope they turn in back off again but I doubt it. I wish we could argue fair use and get the 5c removed. Oh well.
I concur it was nice while it lasted.
Brian
boardmanDJ 08-27-05, 05:07 AM for the person asking....No sound on 06-2 yet.
I believe there was some rule that went into effect July 1st that stated that copyright protection had to be in place August 1st. I know there was some encouragement in another forum to buy those computer HD cards manufactured before that date.
Not sure of the details.
Warren, or anyone else who can answer... Is there even a slight hope that a single Husker game will be televised in HD this year???
I looked at the ABC intranet and I only find two College games scheduled for HD in 2005, of course, ABC can make changes to this moving forward.
Monday, September 5:
ABC’s College Football (Miami @ Florida State)
Saturday, December 3:
ABC’s College Football – Dr. Pepper ACC Championship
gpflepsen 08-27-05, 06:06 PM Heads up...
UNO plays UNK in Kearney. I assume this will be an HD production by NETV.
6:00 tonight.
boardmanDJ 08-27-05, 07:07 PM Apparently the NETV HD truck was at the Pinnacle Sports Network's open house a few days ago. No additional information, so who knows.
gpflepsen 08-27-05, 11:36 PM Did NETV go HD after 7 pm? Had to go out on the town. I noticed when they signed on they noted the sports on NETV being HD, but the broadcast started letterboxed in SD.
It was in HD when I saw it, very impressive to see local HD content...
Brad Smith 08-30-05, 03:56 PM Is anyone seeing a strange shaking picture on Discovery HD Theater on TWC Lincoln? I started noticing it a day or so ago when my TV was swapped out. Thought it was the new TV, but it appears to only happen on Discovery HD.
boardmanDJ 08-30-05, 06:57 PM I don't notice it on my TV. See if it continues after they switch it to Channel 104 Thursday. They are going to put UPN on 110.
PAULSTORM 08-30-05, 07:03 PM I see Ch 6 had a sub channel set up saying 6.2 will be UPN--no date.
KOLN has a still up saying UPN Nebr starts Thursday @ 11 am. I see UPN Neb will be carrying Royals games---one's on the schedule for Sun PM 9/11.
MattInLincoln 08-31-05, 02:22 PM Brad:
There is a thread in HDTV Programming about some people having problems with DiscoveryHD on DirecTV. Although the thread is specifically about satellite, some others with different cable operators are saying they're having problems too. I don't know if this has anything to do with what you were seeing or not, but thought I'd point you in that direction if you hadn't seen it. (sorry, I can't post the URL to the thread because I'm a new member...)
Brad Smith 08-31-05, 04:37 PM Thanks, Matt. It does sound similar to my problem, and I have been following the thread. Thanks for the headsup.
Ok I switched some gear around today and then back again (ugh) and I now seem to be having problems decoding 6-1 on my Hughes D* from the OTA feed. I can decode 6-2 fine and the signal strength is the same as it was before but all I get on 6-1 is polygons and then a singal for a second and then polygons again. I have switched wires, undone the changes, reloaded the config on my D* box and nothing has changed. My HD-Tivo upstairs is not having any problems, has anyone else seen this?
dehlers 09-01-05, 09:17 AM Bohlke,
I am having the exact same problem with WOWT 6.1. I haven't been making changes to my system.
Doug
boardmanDJ 09-01-05, 09:51 AM I was having problems last night around 8pm. I figured it was just me, because 6 has a tendency to be a bit weaker at my place. Maybe something needs burped on WOWT's end?
Count me in as another one having a problem with 6-1. I never had it on last nighit and only checked it now after reading of the problem. On both my systems (MyHD MDP-120 & 130) the signal strenght seems normal and the audio is normal, but the picture seems to freeze for long periods and also breaks up frequently. I hope they get it figured out soon.
Ok I switched some gear around today and then back again (ugh) and I now seem to be having problems decoding 6-1 on my Hughes D* from the OTA feed. I can decode 6-2 fine and the signal strength is the same as it was before but all I get on 6-1 is polygons and then a singal for a second and then polygons again. I have switched wires, undone the changes, reloaded the config on my D* box and nothing has changed. My HD-Tivo upstairs is not having any problems, has anyone else seen this?
FYI This morning my Tivo was having audio problems but not video problems even though the signal strenth is as good or better than normal (around 70%).
PAULSTORM 09-01-05, 03:15 PM No UPN Nebraska for Central Nebraska apparently! KOLN has had their info up on one of their subchannels but nothing on KGIN-DT 11.2 and with the launch today we don't have any UPN on KGIN-DT 11.2. Is anybody else in Central Nebraska getting it off of KGIN?
ScottChez 09-01-05, 07:28 PM NO guide data either on Dishnetwork.
Hard to know what is on. I am guessing most with SAT or Digital cable dont surf channels much anymore so we will never know to watch anything.
Such a waist of a channel with out guide data. What do they think this is the 90s?
PAULSTORM 09-01-05, 07:33 PM I see we have UPN Nebraska on cable at work on Channel 17 in Kearney.
I'm getting UPN Nebraska on 10.2 But, no guide information.
I guess I need to keep the TitanTV guide on my laptop nearby the tube.
M
gpflepsen 09-01-05, 09:34 PM I'm getting UPN Nebraska on 10.2 But, no guide information.
I guess I need to keep the TitanTV guide on my laptop nearby the tube.
M
I can't figure how to add UPN 10.02 to my favorites :confused: It's just not shown as an option on the Add page. :confused: :confused:
I believe there was some rule that went into effect July 1st that stated that copyright protection had to be in place August 1st. I know there was some encouragement in another forum to buy those computer HD cards manufactured before that date.
Not sure of the details.
There was an FCC law requiring everything manufactured after July 1st to recognize a "broadcast flag" which could specify if a program could be recorded, how many times, resolution, etc. This was overruled by a Federal Appeals Court saying the FCC does not have authority to make such laws. The law is since dead until Hollywood lobbies Congress enough to get something passed....
I can't figure how to add UPN 10.02 to my favorites :confused: It's just not shown as an option on the Add page. :confused: :confused:
Are you talking about the TitanTV Guide?
Go to the Digital OTA Guide and add it as a favorite. It will then show up as a favorite, when you switch your guide to My Favorites (if I remember correctly).
Mike
I WAS getting 6.2 last night, but there wasn't any audio. :(
Mike
gpflepsen 09-02-05, 08:51 AM Are you talking about the TitanTV Guide?
Go to the Digital OTA Guide and add it as a favorite. It will then show up as a favorite, when you switch your guide to My Favorites (if I remember correctly).
Mike
I WAS getting 6.2 last night, but there wasn't any audio. :(
Mike
I was trying to do that yesterday but it wasn't showing up on the Add page. Today it was there. :confused:
I haven't had audio on 6.02 for a few days. I have a Dish Network 921.
boardmanDJ 09-02-05, 09:18 AM 6.2 isn't running audio at the moment. In fact, it looks like half the time we are seeing a production room feed. Lots of promo's starting and stopping with an occasional crawl along the bottom when there is a channel 6 logo.
hammer32 09-03-05, 09:30 PM Tonight 7-2 is carrying WDSU out of New Orleans: http://www.wdsu.com/index.html
boardmanDJ 09-04-05, 12:21 AM Thanks for the tip! Great coverage.
I do have a question. I notice the video is a little blurry. not a problem in itself as getting any sort of feed from that area of the country is a miracle...but I notice this on UPN (10.2) and on other stations I've DX'd that broadcast in standard 480.
Is there any explanation for this? I would think the basic digital signal would be crisp, and places like ETV are able to do it.
I wonder if it's something in the upconversion from analog to digital.
wildjays 09-04-05, 12:22 AM This weekend marks 1 year since I have started watching HD content. It has changed a lot over the year from a content perspective and it is exciting to see more and more things in HD.
I am assuming I am getting spoiled now by watching HD content. I don't know if anyone else here bought and watched the Nebraska football game tonight, but I was almost downright embarrassed watching that game with friends tonight on my big screen. The PQ was horrible. I've actually seen better picture on my Cox Analog ESPN channel than what was provided tonight by the PPV. I felt I needed to apologize every chance I got because the picture quality was so poor and it had nothing to do with my big screen. It was the feed that was provided. Switching over to the ESPNHD game was a little more satisfying and made me feel better about it.
I guess I have gotten to the point that if I am going to spend $30 to watch 1 football game that I expect so much more. On the other hand, I don't quite understand why it was such bad PQ. Is it possible they have a real bad analog signal that just happened to be on a digital channel? I guess I assumed if the channel was not part of the analog spectrum that it would at least have a little better PQ than an Analog channel. But I guess I really don't know. Are there different levels of non-HD cameras that make a difference?
Anyone else have any comments on this? My wife even said she hated the picture quality of the Husker game tonight. When women start noticing, that is a sign.
Ronald L M 09-04-05, 09:39 AM This weekend marks 1 year since I have started watching HD content. It has changed a lot over the year from a content perspective and it is exciting to see more and more things in HD.
I am assuming I am getting spoiled now by watching HD content. I don't know if anyone else here bought and watched the Nebraska football game tonight, but I was almost downright embarrassed watching that game with friends tonight on my big screen. The PQ was horrible. I've actually seen better picture on my Cox Analog ESPN channel than what was provided tonight by the PPV. I felt I needed to apologize every chance I got because the picture quality was so poor and it had nothing to do with my big screen. It was the feed that was provided. Switching over to the ESPNHD game was a little more satisfying and made me feel better about it.
I guess I have gotten to the point that if I am going to spend $30 to watch 1 football game that I expect so much more. On the other hand, I don't quite understand why it was such bad PQ. Is it possible they have a real bad analog signal that just happened to be on a digital channel? I guess I assumed if the channel was not part of the analog spectrum that it would at least have a little better PQ than an Analog channel. But I guess I really don't know. Are there different levels of non-HD cameras that make a difference?
Anyone else have any comments on this? My wife even said she hated the picture quality of the Husker game tonight. When women start noticing, that is a sign.
I agree with you Wildjays. The Pq for last nights game was horrible on my 53 inch big screen, I have the MLB package and its amazing the difference in PQ quality from each teams network, for example, the Kc Royals RSTN has the worst PQ, I'm wondering if some feeds are overcompressed so when they rent satellite space to uplink its cheaper? Anyone else have some ideas why Non Hd quality varies so much?
ajwees41 09-04-05, 01:52 PM Do you a 6412 dvr from cox? If you have one from when they 1st came out it doesn't handle non hd very well. I would suggest trying a 6412 phase 3 they are supposed to handle non hd better.
Andrew Wees
I agree with you Wildjays. The Pq for last nights game was horrible on my 53 inch big screen, I have the MLB package and its amazing the difference in PQ quality from each teams network, for example, the Kc Royals RSTN has the worst PQ, I'm wondering if some feeds are overcompressed so when they rent satellite space to uplink its cheaper? Anyone else have some ideas why Non Hd quality varies so much?
Ronald L M 09-05-05, 05:59 PM I'm wondering how close Kptm is to finishing it OTA hd buildout ? The NFL starts on Sunday on Fox, with Kptm's track record(Missed Deadlines) who knows when they will be up and running?
ScottChez 09-05-05, 07:17 PM The Husker PPV pic quality was bad on the DIshnetwork PPV feed also. so I must assume the problem was at the source.
Maybe next time they should try an HDTV PPV?
Since this is pretty region specific. (lincoln\omaha) Does anyone know if there are any FTA satellite dealers around? (FTA, KU, or CBAND)
PAULSTORM 09-07-05, 12:09 PM Is anybody in Central Nebr able to pick up UPN on Ch 11.2 (KGIN-DT)?
I called 10/11's engineer yesterday and told him I was unable to receive it. He swears they're picking up 11.2 in Kearney at Charter Cable. I have a Dish tuner that picks up OTA digital signals. I've done a scan and I've tried to re-add Ch 32-which is Ch 11's dig signal- and it never shows 11.2. It shows 11.1 but not 11.2. I've even eliminated my UPN-Nebr option for KOLN-DT and then tried to retune Ch 32 and it still doesn't work. I think 10/11's engineering staff is wrong on this but they won't believe me. I find it odd that I can pick up the multicast channels for KOLN, NET, and the Omaha channels but I can't pick up the multicast channel for a station that I can see the tower.
Any suggestions from anyone?
Does anyone have problem to receive signal from KETV-DT(channel 7-1)? I am live at 38th & Dewey. KMTV-DT(channel 3-1) signal strength is always good and strong(around 90%). WOWT-DT signal strength is good(around 90%) at most of the time. Although NET-DT(channel 12) signal strength is around 55%, signal is very stable and there is no problem to watch it. Since 4-5 months ago, KETV-DT started to drop signal strength(from 80% to 0) every couple of seconds. It is basically unwatchable. One exception is last saturday, when 7-2 was showing WDSU out off new Orleans, my 7-1 signal strength is around 90% and very stable. I was suspicious that KETV had something blocked signal on my direction. I hope KETV-DT will increase their power soon, so more people can watch it and my problem may be solved.
rmalbers 09-07-05, 06:31 PM Paulstorm: Maybe the signal is so strong it is overloading the receiver.
Does anyone have problem to receive signal from KETV-DT(channel 7-1)? I am live at 38th & Dewey. KMTV-DT(channel 3-1) signal strength is always good and strong(around 90%). WOWT-DT signal strength is good(around 90%) at most of the time. Although NET-DT(channel 12) signal strength is around 55%, signal is very stable and there is no problem to watch it. Since 4-5 months ago, KETV-DT started to drop signal strength(from 80% to 0) every couple of seconds. It is basically unwatchable. One exception is last saturday, when 7-2 was showing WDSU out off new Orleans, my 7-1 signal strength is around 90% and very stable. I was suspicious that KETV had something blocked signal on my direction. I hope KETV-DT will increase their power soon, so more people can watch it and my problem may be solved.
Hello Zoe5,
Might try moving your receive antenna several inches up / down, or left / right. Sounds like what you are experiencing is multi-path or a reflection from a nearby tree, house, garage or the like. If the signal is 80%, then zero it sounds like it is canceling itself out. Hope that helps...be careful if the antenna is on the roof!!!
Warren
Cornhustler 09-07-05, 10:30 PM Is anybody in Central Nebr able to pick up UPN on Ch 11.2 (KGIN-DT)?
I called 10/11's engineer yesterday and told him I was unable to receive it. He swears they're picking up 11.2 in Kearney at Charter Cable.
I can receive 10-1 & 10-2 from Beaver Crossing but only 11-1 from the tower at Heartwell. My reception is the same as yours.
boardmanDJ 09-07-05, 11:12 PM It also seems to be a good idea to unplug your box, let it set for a few minutes then rescan.
A few months ago I was having some oddities with the channels that multicast, and that seemed to help.
As mentioned above, antenna height can make a difference. The sweet spots may not always be at the top of the pole. When I raised mine from 25 to 30 feet, stations came in worse.
ScottChez 09-08-05, 08:55 PM "Since this is pretty region specific. (lincoln\omaha) Does anyone know if there are any FTA satellite dealers around? (FTA, KU, or CBAND)
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The free to air experts seem to be all here. I would post here. It seems like the best dealers are all on the web, they would know the best. No local dealers as this is such a very small market right now.
I also saw some hot deals here
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csschrot 09-08-05, 09:52 PM To the mod. Well the second link seems to be edited. Why not let people share information.
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This forum automatically sensors s a t e l l i t e-g u y s .us . It will also sensor shortcut links like www.*******.com :( t i n y u r l .com
csschrot 09-08-05, 10:17 PM I guess so much for letting people help each other out. I bet there are a few people here that don't know about $atelliteguy$.u$. They do have some good info and help for FTA people.
PAULSTORM 09-09-05, 12:38 PM I can receive 10-1 & 10-2 from Beaver Crossing but only 11-1 from the tower at Heartwell. My reception is the same as yours.
Cornhstlr, what kind of receiver do you have for receiving digital signals? Mine is thru my Dish Network digital tuner/receiver. Also, have you called to complain about your reception of UPN to 10/11? Their number is 800-475-1011. Keep me posted on any change you have.
Thanks.
PAULSTORM 09-09-05, 12:40 PM Paulstorm: Maybe the signal is so strong it is overloading the receiver.
The 10/11 engineer did make a comment like yours, also. I just don't see why I can receive 11.1 and not 11.2.
I will try boardman's suggestion of unplugging and resetting the unit.
Thanks everybody for your help. If there's any other suggestions, please reply.
Hello Zoe5,
Might try moving your receive antenna several inches up / down, or left / right. Sounds like what you are experiencing is multi-path or a reflection from a nearby tree, house, garage or the like. If the signal is 80%, then zero it sounds like it is canceling itself out. Hope that helps...be careful if the antenna is on the roof!!!
Warren
Warren, Thank you for the suggestions. I tried yesterday. It seems not working. One strange thing is that I barely got KETV-DT picture from this past monday to wednesday. Most time there is no signal from monday to wednesday. Starting from last night(09/08/05), I got signal again. Last night my signal strength is between 50% and 70%. In the past, my signal strength is around 75%. Signal is quite stable from 6:30pm to 7:30pm, although it is around 55%. But after that, siganl was droped about 10 times every hour. The strange things are:
1. I remember that my KETV-DT started drop signal around early May when WOWT-DT switched from downtown to crown point.
2. Last saturday, when 7-2 was showing WDSU out off new Orleans, your signal strength was very strong and stable(about 90%), but my WOWT-DT picture frozened a couple of times.
Is it possible KETV-DT'signal and WOWT-DT'signal affect each other or two tower are on the same direction to my location?
ccdrbrg 09-09-05, 06:11 PM I have a similar problem with the stability of KETV 7.1/2.
I receive KMTV 3.1 and WOWT 6.1 flawlessly, but for some reason 7.1/2 is unstable.
I will frequently have 60-70% signal and then drop out suddenly.
I am OTA from Lincoln (70th & Leighton), using a large U/VHF (CM 3671) outdoor antenna with preamp. The antenna is tower mounted along side my house, at about 4 feet above the roof peak.
This is a recent problem, about two weeks.
I haven't tried moving my antenna yet.
Cornhustler 09-09-05, 07:03 PM Cornhstlr, what kind of receiver do you have for receiving digital signals? Mine is thru my Dish Network digital tuner/receiver. Also, have you called to complain about your reception of UPN to 10/11? Their number is 800-475-1011. Keep me posted on any change you have.
Thanks.
I have a DirecTV RCA DTC-100. My reception has not changed.
I have not called to complain since I won't watch any UPN programming anyway. I'm not in favor of TV stations using valuable bandwidth to air sub channels. All that does for me is make NFL or college sports harder to watch. The artifacting is already at an unacceptable level - even at full bandwidth. I'm afraid this could become a trend and there will be less and less true HDTV in the future.
It sounds like UPN is making a commitment to HD but viewers in Omaha, Lincoln and the rest of the state won't get to see it when viewing it over the air.
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20050721upn03
ScottChez 09-10-05, 12:24 AM ===Breaking News============
We have a new channel, in a way. . . tonight (maybe longer).
RIght now KETV 7-2 (the sub channel) is showing a live feed from WDSU Channel 6
http://www.wdsu.com
This is there sister station hit by the storm.
Right now 11:10PM Friday the station is replaying the telethon.
Remember to Donate.
boardmanDJ 09-10-05, 04:56 AM I have noticed that KETV shuts off their sub-channel during Monday Night Football. Perhaps the engineer there isn't totally evil when it comes to you full bandwidth folks. :)
Kind of a bummer when there's a storm out though. I have to revert back to the old fashioned way, of going over to a computer and clicking the weatherbug!
djomaha 09-10-05, 05:16 PM I've tried a couple of different antennas from Radio Shack and I've had some success tuning local Hi-Def channels but I can't get a few and seem to have lost some for no particular reason. I can get KMTV and WOWT with no problems whatsoever. I was getting KPTM and KXVO two days ago but now they appear to be much harder to bring in. Anyone know why this might be? Finally, I have yet to get KETV in under any circumstances.
I live at 194th & Q and should be able to bring all these channels in I believe. Unfortunately, an outdoor antenna and/or mounting something in the attic is out of the question. I'm using a Terk HDTVa amplified antenna right now and I tried the 15-1880 from Radio Shack which is also amplified. The Terk seems better but I'm willing to try anything to get Channel 7 in. I need Monday Night Football! Any advice??
Is anyone else having problems with 6-1? I'm getting 6-2, 3-1, 7-1 & 7-2 just fine, but 6-1 keeps locking up. This is with both of my receivers. It seems to take a long time to lock onto the signal and when I finally get a picture, it will lock up (just display a static picture). The audio seems fine. Any advice?
Thanks,
Tom
Huskerfan 09-10-05, 06:04 PM Do you a 6412 dvr from cox? If you have one from when they 1st came out it doesn't handle non hd very well. I would suggest trying a 6412 phase 3 they are supposed to handle non hd better.
Andrew Wees
How can you tell which one you have? by the serial number or something? I agree the pq is horrible on Non HD content. Consequently, I only watch HD or DVD's with this t.v.
boardmanDJ 09-11-05, 03:46 AM FOX and KXVO are in the process of upgrading. The lest estimate I heard was September 2nd, which obviously has passed. When I drove byt he tower the other day, there were lots of trucks there. So, people are working.
I too am having trouble with 6-1 tonight. It's all pixeled and jumpy. 6-2 was coming in perfectly. Soemthing must need burped.
ScottChez 09-11-05, 03:57 PM I asked the FCC what was up with our Fox and the HD requirements last week,
they emailed me back saying there exemption for DTV was extended till Jan 2006, it was a hardship waiver with technical issues and a conflict with the 43 digital assigment by the FCC.
I hope the can figure out the issues before then. Maybe they already have, and they just filed the exemption as a CYA thing.
boardmanDJ 09-12-05, 02:04 AM It had to do with their antenna, and how much of a load it could take. It looks like KXVO is now on top, with KPTM analog and digital right underneath, on different sides of the tower, and then KXVO analog underneath. KEFM will be vacating soon and moving to crown point.
That stick is HUGE to look at from the base. It should be a beauty once they get everything proofed and online. When that is, who knows!
Mike Gann 09-12-05, 12:17 PM CBS will not be feeding the "Young and The Restless" in HD while the Roberts confirmation hearings are in session.
Huskerfan 09-12-05, 01:29 PM How can you tell which one you have? by the serial number or something? I agree the pq is horrible on Non HD content. Consequently, I only watch HD or DVD's with this t.v.
Andrew, you out there?
wildjays 09-12-05, 04:59 PM You will know if you have a Phase III box by looking at the bottom of the DVR and it will say Phase III. You will also know by the additional fan that is on the bottom of the DVR now.
Huskerfan 09-12-05, 06:56 PM thank you
ScottChez 09-13-05, 11:52 AM I think it was asked before.
Anyone know if ANY Husker Games will be in HD this year.
Like this Saturday, I think its on Channel 7 ABC ? Is it in HD?
PAULSTORM 09-13-05, 11:53 AM Ahh to see the Sea of Red in High Def...what a site that could be!
Brad Smith 09-13-05, 11:56 AM I don't believe so. Only if we make it to the conference championship game or a BCS bowl. Or if we are on ESPN. Otherwise no.
ajwees41 09-13-05, 12:25 PM Scott it is on payperview this week.
WWW.huskers.com has it listed as a reginal gam ,but ABC is not showing it.
Andrew Wees
I think it was asked before.
Anyone know if ANY Husker Games will be in HD this year.
Like this Saturday, I think its on Channel 7 ABC ? Is it in HD?
PAULSTORM 09-13-05, 12:32 PM You're wrong Andrew. ABC is doing the game, unless you mean not in HD.
OFFICIAL word from http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=188186
The game will kickoff at 2:36 p.m. and will be televised to a regional audience by ABC, with Brent Musburger, Gary Danielson and Jack Arute on the call.
gpflepsen 09-13-05, 12:51 PM :eek: Brent Musberger Run for the hills!!!
With NETV's HD capability, I'd like to see at least an offering of an HD feed. I'm not sure if Memorial stadium could be done by NETV in HD. All the other sports produced by NETV have been great.
I'd pay a few dollars premium for the HD PPV over the regular PPV. Man, the FOX originated PPV's PQ sucks a big one.
Huskerfan 09-13-05, 01:41 PM I would pay a premium just to not have to listen to Brent "How many times can I make a wrong call" Musberger. Why does this guy still have a job!! Guess I'll be listening to the radio this weekend. :(
boardmanDJ 09-13-05, 05:37 PM I looked at the ABC intranet and I only find two College games scheduled for HD in 2005, of course, ABC can make changes to this moving forward.
Monday, September 5:
ABC’s College Football (Miami @ Florida State)
Saturday, December 3:
ABC’s College Football – Dr. Pepper ACC Championship
The above reply was found a few pages back from KETV.
They probably wing it!
johnwcookjr 09-13-05, 07:56 PM :eek: Man, the FOX originated PPV's PQ sucks a big one.
Yup, it did look strikingly reminiscent of multi-cast SD!
toe jam 09-13-05, 08:21 PM no kptm signal via cox as of 7 p.m. tonight (tuesday, sept. 13). they better get that fixed by the time "house" comes on or i'll be mightily upset.
also, i've seen mention of some tweaking that you can do with cox's hd-dvr unit. anyone know of an easy-to-follow guide i can use to navigate those settings screens?
jonnyozero3 09-13-05, 09:02 PM Tweaking? Care to share a link friend? :)
(no, not the hot dog...)
Ronald L M 09-13-05, 09:53 PM Tnt-hd has been added on Cox channel 819.
forcemac 09-14-05, 01:20 PM Alrighty, I have finally given in and bought OTA reciever. I never have read much in the omaha forum due to it being mostly OTA related, and I had Cox doing my HD feed. Well, cox's line up is pretty good, other than their stupid issue with the CBS station (I want my Chiefs in HD).
Anyhow, I got the $89 dollar HDTV reciever at Radio Shack, and a $15 dollar antenna, and it works great for the CBS station. But playing with it, I can't seem to get Fox or UPN in HD. I have it upstairs in the open area of the house just to try it out, and can't seem get them. I can get about 10 PBS/NETC channels, I also get KMTV, WOWT, and KETV. So in all like 13 channels, but really on 5 channels with different content.
Just wondering if there are any tips for getting UPN or Fox. I live at 72nd and Giles...and using a pretty cheap UHF/VHF antenna (circle for UHF with rabbit ears for VHF). I don't really care if I can get it or not, I am not really going to sink any more money into to get channels Cox feeds now...just playing with the capabilites of the box...
gpflepsen 09-14-05, 02:32 PM UPN/FOX are very low power and not too many can receive them.
boardmanDJ 09-14-05, 05:16 PM As stated above, Fox is on low power, but will appear on 43-1, eventually. WB is another low power outlet which will eventually show up on 38-1.
UPN Omaha is a sub-channel of WOWT. If you can get WOWT on 22-1 (remaps to 6-1) you should be able to pick up UPN, which is already promoting it's October launch on 22-2 (remaps to 6-2). There are times there is no audio or video on that channel as they are not 'officially' on the air yet.
UPN Nebraska is on 25-2 (10-2), but may not come in, depending on your location as it's being broadcast from 10/11's tower in Beaver Crossing.
gpflepsen 09-14-05, 05:19 PM bmDJ, thanks for catching that. I was thinking UPN = WB.
forcemac 09-14-05, 05:21 PM As stated above, Fox is on low power, but will appear on 43-1, eventually. WB is another low power outlet which will eventually show up on 38-1.
UPN Omaha is a sub-channel of WOWT. If you can get WOWT on 22-1 (remaps to 6-1) you should be able to pick up UPN, which is already promoting it's October launch on 22-2 (remaps to 6-2). There are times there is no audio or video on that channel as they are not 'officially' on the air yet.
UPN Nebraska is on 25-2 (10-2), but may not come in, depending on your location as it's being broadcast from 10/11's tower in Beaver Crossing.
yeah I get 6-2 but its locked up...I really wish I could get FOX...i skimmed some of this thread, are they working on a new tower/power output?
boardmanDJ 09-14-05, 05:59 PM UPN, WB, what's the difference now that Enterprise has been cancelled. :)
Fox & WB are in ther process of updating their antenna and tower. Looks like all the new stuff is up, but it all has to be swept and calibrated for the nice folks at the FCC.
Specialists take care of most of that, and they have pretty full schedules at the moment with all the conversions going on around the country.
hammer32 09-17-05, 06:37 AM I have a similar problem with the stability of KETV 7.1/2.
I've had excellent reception of KETV 7.1 in the past, but I'm getting a lot of dropouts this week, it's like watching a slide show.
I live in Bellevue, south of Looking Glass Ave. and use an indoor Silver Sensor antenna with a Channel Master 7777 pre-amp and a Radio Shack attenuator. I get a pretty good signal for KMTV (recently), WOWT, KHIN and (usually) KETV. It may be time for me to move to an outdoor antenna (The wife has to have Lost! :) ).
Anyone from this area have any suggestions for an outdoor antenna and perhaps an installer?
Thanks!
Sean
Dougaha 09-17-05, 09:34 AM What about an updated channel list?
Does anyone have a list of all of the QAM and ATSC channels currently available in the Omaha area?
Doug
I realize most of you probably didn't notice because you were watching the Husker game, but the Notre Dame -Michigan State game was not broadcast in HD on TWC here in Lincoln. All NBC ND games are in HD this season, so what was the deal here localy?
gpflepsen 09-18-05, 11:05 AM I realize most of you probably didn't notice because you were watching the Husker game, but the Notre Dame -Michigan State game was not broadcast in HD on TWC here in Lincoln. All NBC ND games are in HD this season, so what was the deal here localy?
To me, the ND game looked like HD with the black sidebars superimposed. OTA from Lincoln.
ESPN-HD's FSU-BC game wasn't HD for the first part of the game, it has the HD sidebars. Later in the game it went HD full screen. Strange happenings, indeed.
ajwees41 09-21-05, 05:00 AM I know this is an HDTV forum, but I just saw an ad on Cox Omaha Channel 8 NBC that COX will have UPN on channel 248. I don't know if it will also have a HD channel.
Andrew Wees
This is kind of comical to me. Recently moved from Omaha to Hastings. Omaha did not have CBS in HDTV on Cox. Now in Hastings, CBS is the only OTA network available in HD. Charter here has: CBS, HBO, SHo, Max, HDnet, HDnet movies, TNT, ESPN, and Discovery in addition.
I gave up on CBS, so now I have to find new shows to watch since I was boycotting KMTV.
Ok we are now approaching week 3 of the NFL, any word or guesses on when KPTM will have the OTA up at full power?
Huskerfan 09-21-05, 02:09 PM I like the new phase III HD box from Cox, cept nobody mentioned it has HDMI and no DVI. Also, did you notice the ethernet connection. I assume to one day link several of these guys up to stream shows....
gpflepsen 09-21-05, 02:46 PM I like the new phase III HD box from Cox, cept nobody mentioned it has HDMI and no DVI. Also, did you notice the ethernet connection. I assume to one day link several of these guys up to stream shows....
Pick up an HDMI-DVI cable if you need DVI for your display.
http://*******.com/afwfe replace ******** with t i n y u r l w/o spaces. :rolleyes:
I have bought cables from them and had excellent results.
Since this forum sensors some urls in a most draconian way, here it is in all its glory:
http://search.*********/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrf
tog=1&from=R10&satitle=dvi+hdmi&sacat=-1%26catre
f%3DC6&bs=Search&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&
;ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&am
p;sass=mashy76&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&am
p;copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
Huskerfan 09-21-05, 02:56 PM Ha Ha Ha. It still scrambled the link. I found a cable for about $10 bucks by searching the net. I found the pq on my projector is hardly noticable going between DVI and Component anyway so I use the DVI for my DVD player and component for Cox. But someday I'll probably buy a DVI switcher and use DVI/HDMI for both.
But I'm still curious what web site you were telling me about.......
gpflepsen 09-21-05, 03:17 PM http://t i n y u r l.com/afwfe
Copy and paste the above link to your browser. Drop the spaces in the above link and go there. It re-directs to e b a y, another banned site here on the forum.
I'll try this, Link buried in a link code (http://*******.com/afwfe)
If this fails, go to e b a y .com . Look for items for sale by mashy76. Search under his name for HDMI DVI.
Huskerfan 09-21-05, 04:18 PM Wow! Thanks for the link. How can he sell those for 99 cents? + only 6 bucks for shipping
BTW, the buried in a link code didn't work.
gpflepsen 09-21-05, 04:27 PM A few years ago I bought a bunch of DVI-DVI cables from a guy by Minneapolis. Their firm was replacing all their monitors (numbered into the 100's) which were supplied w/ DVI cables. All the computers were VGA so the DVI's were being thrown out! The guy was given permission to retrieve them from the trash, and he sold them. It wasn't worth the companies time to try to sell them.
It's either that, which is a good story, or it's part of a stolen container load from Long Beach. :D
Myself, I have tons of extra cables around from the years. I can imagine what a business could accumulate given a little time.
boardmanDJ 09-21-05, 05:22 PM Does it really make sense to boycott CBS when it was the local cable company and local affiliate's little tinkling match that kept them off Cox?
The Hastings CBS station on cable should be good ol' 10/11.
Does it really make sense to boycott CBS when it was the local cable company and local affiliate's little tinkling match that kept them off Cox?
The Hastings CBS station on cable should be good ol' 10/11.
There was plenty of good content on in HD on the other channels, so I just quit watching CBS, partly due to being an HDTV junkie, part principle. No problems with CBS at all, will watch it plenty now. But as I wrote in my letter to KMTV a long time ago, I was not going to give them my "business" with how they treated their customers. That will all change with KMTV having new owners, but Emmis was a horrible company. Have heard that from several employees and everybody knows KMTV was not going to be on Cox even if Cox had offered a significant amount of money. Emmis had a hidden agenda with their own "cable company" plans.
BRock97 09-22-05, 01:08 AM Hello all,
I have recently installed a new antenna that is now able to pick up KXVO and KPTM here in Millard. Sadly, I put it up around 10 p.m. this evening and all I could catch was some Seinfeld. I am curious if they are actually putting HD content out there, or it is still just a digital broadcast of their regular signal. Thanks.
Bryan
boardmanDJ 09-22-05, 03:20 AM Standard Def Digital until they get the big stick up and running. Last I knew KPTM was to be HD, but KXVO will not be at first. Haven't heard a darned thing lately.
kylews55 09-25-05, 11:00 PM :confused: I just got into the HD world. And the problem I am having is my HD TIVO (HR10-250) Can not pull in the OTA HD channels. The signal goes from 0 to 65 and just bounces the whole time. I live at 136th and Harrison. I have tried 6 different antanna's (outdoor, indoor, amplified) and have tried different cable. Every antanna has worked with my OTA tunner (88% signal) in my TV. I am on my 4th repacement TIVO and this last Saterday DirecTV installed the receiver and their antanna, but still the same thing. I would love to beable to record HD locals but can not figure it out. Does anyone have any idea of what the hell is going on?
lrickley 09-26-05, 10:27 AM Hello to everyone, does anybody have a listing of the channels for Cox in Omaha, Nebraska? I have a samsung T451 and have been able to find almost of the channels but it seems I am still missing at least one (KMTV the CBS affiliate in Omaha). Thanks.
CPanther95 09-26-05, 01:03 PM Threads merged.
Huskerfan 09-26-05, 01:20 PM lrickley, you're going to be searching for the signal for a long time... Use the search function of this forum. KMTV and Cox don't want to play together. At least not in the HD world. To answer your question, though, go to Cox.com. You will find the listings you are seeking.
ScottChez 09-26-05, 03:23 PM Direct TV HD Tivo issues
When I had the HD Tivo, I had the same problem.
The solution was the Silver Sensor Ant in the Atic with a 7777 channel master amp.
The key to all this was the Rad shack Annenuator to turn down the power. The HD Tivo does not like too much power and it causes the signal to go crazy.
WHen I had it I could also get Lincolns CBS from Omaha.
Now I have the Dish network 942 HD DVR, its not a picky on signal strenght.
Hello all,
I have recently installed a new antenna that is now able to pick up KXVO and KPTM here in Millard. Sadly, I put it up around 10 p.m. this evening and all I could catch was some Seinfeld. I am curious if they are actually putting HD content out there, or it is still just a digital broadcast of their regular signal. Thanks.
Bryan
A phone call to KPTM yielded this:
They have installed a new transmitter link which
HAS enabled HD to be sent to the transmitter.
I was told that network HD is being passed to the
digital transmitter.
I guess for those who can actually see Kptm's digital
signal that is good news!!!
No date was given for their full power transmitter yet.
?
boardmanDJ 09-28-05, 01:18 AM A phone call to KPTM yielded this:
They have installed a new transmitter link which
HAS enabled HD to be sent to the transmitter.
I was told that network HD is being passed to the
digital transmitter.
I guess for those who can actually see Kptm's digital
signal that is good news!!!
No date was given for their full power transmitter yet.
?
My father in law, who relys on analog, via his little kitchen TV, emailed KPTM to find out why they were coming in fuzzy in Lincoln.
They told him there was a delay in their tower work and it would be a 'couple of more weeks'.
BRock97 09-28-05, 10:19 AM A phone call to KPTM yielded this:
They have installed a new transmitter link which
HAS enabled HD to be sent to the transmitter.
I was told that network HD is being passed to the
digital transmitter.
I guess for those who can actually see Kptm's digital
signal that is good news!!!
No date was given for their full power transmitter yet.
?
Thanks, docwho. I will give a look tonight and report back!
I receive KPTM's digital signal good, but there was nothing in HD tonight. I thought maybe Everybody Loves Raymond might be in HD, but nothing but SD.
Mike
BRock97 09-28-05, 11:56 PM I receive KPTM's digital signal good, but there was nothing in HD tonight. I thought maybe Everybody Loves Raymond might be in HD, but nothing but SD.
Mike
To quote Peter Griffin, "Holy crap!" So You Think You Can Dance was in HD and it looked great! Not that I watched it for any length of time, but still.... Now, just have to setup the HTPC to record Arrested Dev, Kitchen Confidential, Prison Break, and House in glorious HD. Great to see some progress!
ajwees41 09-29-05, 12:04 AM I don't think any syndicated shows are shown in HD Only original fox shows.
Andrew Wees
I receive KPTM's digital signal good, but there was nothing in HD tonight. I thought maybe Everybody Loves Raymond might be in HD, but nothing but SD.
Mike
WestonFire22 09-29-05, 10:21 PM I went out today and picked up one of the Accurian receivers from Radio Shack today. It is replacing my Panasonic TU-DST52F receiver.
Have only watched CSI and now Cold Case, but I like it so far. The setup was easy and it seems to pull in stations better than the Panasonic. I was having problems with the Panasonic occasionally dropping audio, but I haven't noticed it on the Accurian (adminitedly, I have only been watching a little over an hour so far).
I was suprised though to see that when it did its autoscan to pull in channels, it picked up 3, 7, 10, 12 and even channel 8. I was never able to get a good signal on 8 before, it would just bounce between 0 and about 40 on the strength meter. I imagine I will have to rotate the antenna to get 6.
For you techies, I am hooked up to a Mits 65313 via the component (Y-Pb-Pr) and use the Fiber Optic connection to a Sony receiver for audio.
The only complaint so far, and I knew about this before I bought it from reading elsewhere, you kinda have to point the remote down to get it to do stuff, guess some engineer didn't quite get that alignment correct, heh.
Bruce
Oh yea, I am in Weston, that is ~35 miles due west of Omaha and ~ 30 miles due north of Lincoln.
boardmanDJ 09-30-05, 01:59 AM That's impressive that you get 8 that far out. They are still at very low power from their studio tower on 10th, near Highway 2.
I hope they have a good signal into lincoln, at full power, on their tower WAAAYYYY west of town.
DennisK 09-30-05, 02:05 PM I picked up one of the $89 Accurian HD receivers from Radio Shack a few weeks ago. I'm glad you mentioned the trick concerning the remote. I have had problems with it and I'll give your tip a try.
I also have a Zenith SAT520 (something like that -- the DirecTV receiver (not DVR.)) I'm in Lincoln and with the antenna pointed towards Omaha I got 3, 6, 7, 12 great but not 10 and 8. I plugged the Accurian in and it got all of the channels. The tuner must be pretty good in these units.
Well, KPTM is in glorious HI-DEF. Unfortunately, their audio and video is out-of-sync. This is during the Yankee-Red Sox game currently on.
Mike
PAULSTORM 10-01-05, 01:31 PM Well, KPTM is in glorious HI-DEF. Unfortunately, their audio and video is out-of-sync. This is during the Yankee-Red Sox game currently on.
Mike
For us in Central Nebraska that receive KPTM when the signal skip is good, does that also mean they're at full power, too? Thanks in advance for any info. I'll have to try & tune it in here in Kearney.
Well, KPTM is in glorious HI-DEF. Unfortunately, their audio and video is out-of-sync. This is during the Yankee-Red Sox game currently on.That was a Fox network problem. People all around the country noted this, and Fox fixed it during the game.
boardmanDJ 10-01-05, 09:30 PM No signal in Lincoln, so they haven't gone full power yet.
Huskerfan 10-01-05, 09:30 PM I had audio sync problems on 809 through Cox for the Husker game today. Anyone else? It was only off a split second. I could only tell when the announcers were talking and the camera was on them. Didn't really affect me otherwise. Thank God we didn't have Brent today. I'm sure he'll be back to take care of his criminal matter soon enough.
NFL on FOX is looking great this morning. No sync problems at all.
Mike
WestonFire22 10-02-05, 03:14 PM Is anyone getting the race in Hi-Def on channel 6? I am OTA and am not getting HD
Bruce
Ronald L M 10-02-05, 05:09 PM NFL on FOX is looking great this morning. No sync problems at all.
Mike
Mike what is your antenna setup? I also live Omaha and have a roof antenna, but I cannot pull in KPTM-DT, but I get KXVO-DT. I'm wondering why they have not turned up their power?
mjparme 10-02-05, 05:39 PM Is anyone getting the race in Hi-Def on channel 6? I am OTA and am not getting HD
Bruce
I have HD through Cox and the race is not HD for me either. Must be an NBC problem.
I have a telemetry antenna on my chimney going to my Hughes 10-250. I'd posted some pictures of it a year or so back on this forum. I live right at 96th and Harrison and I'm getting KPTM very good, along with KXVO. Not sure if they've gone full power yet. I was watching them via DirecTV, but now OTA, since Fox is HD.
Mike
SychoBC 10-03-05, 03:13 PM It was good to finally see Fox in HD other than over Sunday Ticket.
Also UPN Omaha switches on at 6 tonight. Too bad it launches with 12 straight hours of crap.
Also UPN Omaha switches on at 6 tonight. Too bad it launches with 12 straight hours of crap.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! :D
PAULSTORM 10-03-05, 06:04 PM It was good to finally see Fox in HD other than over Sunday Ticket.
Also UPN Omaha switches on at 6 tonight. Too bad it launches with 12 straight hours of crap.
WOWT must not be too proud of it either. They don't even mention it on their website plus there are no listings for it on titantv like 10/11 had for their UPN station.
BTW, still not getting UPN Neb on KGIN-DT 11.2 here in Central Neb. :mad:
SychoBC 10-03-05, 06:42 PM www.wowt.com/upn
There listings are on TitanTV. UPNOmaha is the name.
FYI - I got an email from KPTM stating that they plan to be up full power in two weeks worst case. Lets keep our fingers crossed that they dont run into any issues.
ScottChez 10-04-05, 03:05 PM Kind of hard to watch UPN Omaha with out Guide data.
We are so used to Guide data.
We should email WOWT and ask that they send the Guide data to Dishnetwork and Direct TV so we can see whats on.
With out it, its like having a stealth channel.
Since it's an OTA channel, it really doesn't have anything to do with DirecTV, does it? Isn't that broadcast with the channel? I don't know, but it makes sense to me. Can anyone fill us in here?
I'd also like to get guide info for KOLN-TV and NET-1 out of Lincoln.
Mike
davidgriswold 10-04-05, 07:56 PM DirecTV, at least, provides program information on my Tivo based PVR for my local OTA channels. I don't know about non-Tivo receivers.
GRIZZ
minerally 10-04-05, 09:03 PM thank you to bohlke, who relayed the latest promise from kmtv to acheive full power within a certain time-frame.
i don't understand why someone in the know at kmtv won't just post to this board reasonably specific details on the progress of this important project. it wouldn't take much time.
and yes, this is football related.
minerally 10-04-05, 09:06 PM meant kptm, of course
Mike Gann 10-04-05, 09:33 PM KMTV is still waiting for the FCC to grant our request to go to a megawatt. We are currently running 700 kW ERP, the same as KETV. You guys need to realize that the difference between 700 kW and a megawatt ERP on a given channel with the same antenna and feedline, etc., is only about a dB.
Just thought that I would give you an update.
johnwcookjr 10-05-05, 07:39 PM Mike, Thanks for the update, I guess your in power saver mode right now. ;)
Hmmm, better late than never I guess, KPTM running increased power in two weeks, great, but now that Nascar on Fox is over can someone please remind me what is it we're waiting to see? :)
John
boardmanDJ 10-05-05, 09:19 PM Those late night infomercials? :)
Ronald L M 10-05-05, 10:10 PM Mike, Thanks for the update, I guess your in power saver mode right now. ;)
Hmmm, better late than never I guess, KPTM running increased power in two weeks, great, but now that Nascar on Fox is over can someone please remind me what is it we're waiting to see? :)
John
I think many local viewers have been waiting for the NFL and MLB playoffs in Hd.
KMTV is still waiting for the FCC to grant our request to go to a megawatt. We are currently running 700 kW ERP, the same as KETV. You guys need to realize that the difference between 700 kW and a megawatt ERP on a given channel with the same antenna and feedline, etc., is only about a dB.
Just thought that I would give you an update.
thanks for the update Mike, that 1db ay be all I need to maintain a good signal :)
Question on guide data.
I have DirecTV and an HD TiVo, and get guide data for all satellite and OTA stations except the new UPN on 6-2 (just to name one). Is the program guide data (I think it's called PSIP, or something like that) sent over with the broadcast signal? Or is it sent from DirecTV for my local OTA stations? I also get KOLN in Lincoln, but no guide data. The same with the Lincoln PBS station, which for some reason comes in great, but the Omaha PBS station doesn't. Go figure.
Thanks to those that know!
Mike
st30247 10-06-05, 06:33 PM mroot
Guide data is sent by DirecTV through the dish for the Tivo product. I was getting guide data for 10-2, which is the sister station for a few days, and then it went away, I think I'll need to re-scan for it to recognize that the station is still there. Make sure that you set up two local area zip codes, set a primary one in Omaha, and then a secondary one from Lincoln. For Lincoln, use 68504, it will help keep the Lincoln station info downloading for you.
johnwcookjr 10-08-05, 01:41 AM Disconnect Dish/DirectTv and COX cables and voila, you're left with OTA broadcasting.
When I first opened this thread back in 2002 that was the jest of this thread, Over The Air (OTA) HDTV reception. Since then this thread has been melded into everything but OTA.
Madenning! Let's Get back to the basics. For those of you with an antenna on the roof I say two thumbs up!
John
boardmanDJ 10-08-05, 06:17 AM This forum was part of what motivated me to look into HD and put an antenna up. Not on the roof, but on a pole next to it, in the back yard. Cable didn't offer any HD content yet.
I'd love to have a dish, I have cable, but I do use OTA. Lots of 'presents' out there in the humid summer months.
I can see how it all easily becomes one. Kind of like when DOS became hidden by this silly thing called windows.
Incidentally, I am not getting program info OTA for 06-1 or 06-2.
johnwcookjr 10-08-05, 11:35 AM For whatever reason I too was experiencing reception problems with 6-01 earlier this week (Wednesday night I believe, waiting for LOST to come on,) haven't tried 6-02. I don't have any standard def channels mapped except for 7-02. I had signal strength in the 90's but my receiver wouldn't lock up, even tried sweeping the control range on my attenuator.
Everything else was working great.
ScottChez 10-08-05, 11:52 AM Sorry but I do not agree, about going only to the original OTA HD topic.
"When I first opened this thread ..... Over The Air (OTA) HDTV reception. Since then . . . . . into everything but OTA"
The Title of the location of where this thread lives is
*****Local HDTV Info and Reception ***********
This means all HD in Omaha and Lincoln.
We risk loosing too many people if we limit to just OTA. We need to keep talking about everything HD in this area, good threads are hard to find in the Omaha Lincoln DMA.
We may never find each other again. We need the brain trust that we have here.
We need each other. . . .
ScottChez 10-08-05, 11:54 AM But Speaking of HD OTA, is there anything we can do to help this guy out?
Any one we Email (like the board members)? Anyone know there Emails?
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=2039200
From Todays Omaha World Herald Front page
"Wendy and Arthur Erickson's antenna is getting a bad reception in their northwest Omaha neighborhood. The Diamond Head Homeowners Association has sued the Ericksons, contending that the antenna on their roof violates the neighborhood's covenants. The lawsuit, filed this week, asks that the Ericksons remove the antenna and pay court costs. "
andersa 10-08-05, 01:18 PM But Speaking of HD OTA, is there anything we can do to help this guy out?
Any one we Email (like the board members)? Anyone know there Emails?
[ url]http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=2039200[/url]
From Todays Omaha World Herald Front page
"Wendy and Arthur Erickson's antenna is getting a bad reception in their northwest Omaha neighborhood. The Diamond Head Homeowners Association has sued the Ericksons, contending that the antenna on their roof violates the neighborhood's covenants. The lawsuit, filed this week, asks that the Ericksons remove the antenna and pay court costs. "
I was thinking the same when I read about it this morning.
Reminds me about an article I read in Home Theater Magazine a couple of years ago titled: "The Homeowner's Association - the last fascist stronghold in America". :)
mroot
Guide data is sent by DirecTV through the dish for the Tivo product. I was getting guide data for 10-2, which is the sister station for a few days, and then it went away, I think I'll need to re-scan for it to recognize that the station is still there. Make sure that you set up two local area zip codes, set a primary one in Omaha, and then a secondary one from Lincoln. For Lincoln, use 68504, it will help keep the Lincoln station info downloading for you.
I have the same issue with KOLN 10-2, whats wierd is my HD Tivo has guide data for KGIN 11-2.
But Speaking of HD OTA, is there anything we can do to help this guy out?
From Todays Omaha World Herald Front page
"Wendy and Arthur Erickson's antenna is getting a bad reception in their northwest Omaha neighborhood. The Diamond Head Homeowners Association has sued the Ericksons, contending that the antenna on their roof violates the neighborhood's covenants. The lawsuit, filed this week, asks that the Ericksons remove the antenna and pay court costs. "
Hi Scott,
Some information:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
Warren
NebrGuy 10-08-05, 04:58 PM Live in Lincoln, near 27th & Hwy 2 area. I have had a horrible problem picking up Omaha digital signals since moving to this area of town last year. I've tried a RatShak outdoor antenna w/a 12db amp, no luck. Then tried an interior powered magnavox antenna w/ and w/o the 12 db amp, again no luck.
Today I ran out to Wally World and picked up the Phillips version of the Silver Sensor antenna. I noticed I still need to connect the 12 db amp. 6.1 flickers between 16:9 and 4:3. It's not that it is locking up the system, just constantly flashing back and forth. 6.2 seems to come in better. With some adjusting of the direction I can get 3.1 & 7.1.
I'm wondering whether I should try the terk tv5 antenna. Would that give me a better signal than the silver sensor? I'd really like to get ch. 6 & 7. I can live with CBS out of Lincoln, but hate KLKN's digital setup.
boardmanDJ 10-08-05, 06:19 PM I'm near 27th & Highway 2 as well. The area is in a small dip. If we were on Old Cheney, we could probably get lots of neat stuff.
I began with an outdoor antenna (Radioshack UHF only) with a Channelmaster Preamp (#7777) and a rotor. (You'll want this so you can rotate between Lincoln and Omaha stations as their towers are in opposite directions).
This was all mounted on 20ft worth of poles from radio shack and connected to my back porch deck rails.
It got just above my roofline and allowed me to pull in most everything. I bought the amplifier because everything was on low power back then, but it might not be necessary now. Try it one piece at a time. Pole with antenna (getting it out the door might be enough). Might not even need the rotor if you aim the antenna right. Try it without, then if needed add it.
I found my rotor and amp through the channelmaster website. Under "distributor locator" they had a nice set of links. at the time Warren electronics had the best deals.
If you don't care about the Lincoln stations, then you won't need the rotor. CBS, ABC and NBC are all at the same location in Omaha at full power, or near full power (non of this 1kw stuff).
gpflepsen 10-08-05, 06:50 PM But Speaking of HD OTA, is there anything we can do to help this guy out?
Any one we Email (like the board members)? Anyone know there Emails?
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=2039200
From Todays Omaha World Herald Front page
"Wendy and Arthur Erickson's antenna is getting a bad reception in their northwest Omaha neighborhood. The Diamond Head Homeowners Association has sued the Ericksons, contending that the antenna on their roof violates the neighborhood's covenants. The lawsuit, filed this week, asks that the Ericksons remove the antenna and pay court costs. "
If they read this... Some good info can be gleaned from these threads:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=75176&highlight=antenna+HOA+FCC
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=19995&highlight=antenna+HOA+FCC
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
Don't waste your money with a Terk.
M
NebrGuy 10-08-05, 10:05 PM I'm near 27th & Highway 2 as well. The area is in a small dip...I began with an outdoor antenna (Radioshack UHF only) with a Channelmaster Preamp (#7777) and a rotor...It got just above my roofline and allowed me to pull in most everything....
Like I said in the original post, I tried the Radio Shack outdoor antenna (believe it is a UHF only as well, if not it is a smaller VHF/UHF). Had it above the roofline of my house. I could get the Lincoln stations with it, but could not pull any reliable (steady) signal from Omaha, even with an amp. I could get them to come in, but they would pixellate or lock up completely. Completely unwatchable.
The first indoor I tried worked good for 8 & 10/11, but I couldn't get anything else. Signal wouldn't even begin to register.
Then switching to the Silver Sensor I was able to pull in 3.1, 6.1, 6.2, 8.1, 10.1, 10.2, and the 12.x PBS channels without moving the antenna. To get 8.1 and 10.1, I had to reduce the signal strength on the SS. I can get 7.1 & 7.2, but I need to move the SS a bit.
6.1 is the problem child right now, though. Like I said above it "flickers". It is really bad in 16:9 format. It doesn't seem to lock the system, but it almost looks like it is going back and forth between 16:9 and 4:3. There is a little flicker effect in 4:3 as well.
I find it bizaar that I was not able to get a lock with the outdoor antenna. Understand the bowl effect in the Woods Blvd & Pace area that I'm in, but to get a good signal quality with an interior antenna when not getting it with an outside ant. just seems strange.
I was reading user reviews today before buying the SS. A lot said they were able to pull signals with an SS that they couldn't otherwise get. Several that weren't able to use the SS said they then tried the Terk and were able to pull in a quality signal. I doubt I'll try the Terk TV5 at this point though.
tylerdurden 10-08-05, 10:25 PM Is anyone else experiencing video problems with WOWT? Recently I've started noticing that the video is "jerky". Occassionally, it's subtle, but most times the video will freeze for a split second then resume, freeze, resume, etc. and it's very irritating. We've resorted to watching WOWT in SD as the experience on the digital channel is intolerable. I am using a Dish 811 tuner and I only have this problem on WOWT subchannel 1. I don't have a problem with KETV, KMTV, NETV or KHIN or sub-channel 2 of WOWT. Occassionally, switching channels and coming back to WOWT will clear up the problem for a minute or two, but generally not...
WOWT has been fine for me for many months, this problem just started recently... So anyone else having a similar problem?
WOWT has been fine for me for many months, this problem just started recently... So anyone else having a similar problem?
Yeah - I thought it was a signal strength issue for me?
I was reading user reviews today before buying the SS. A lot said they were able to pull signals with an SS that they couldn't otherwise get. Several that weren't able to use the SS said they then tried the Terk and were able to pull in a quality signal. I doubt I'll try the Terk TV5 at this point though.
I have a SquareShooter from Wineguard with a pre-amp and its working well for me. I am in a bit of a dip as well at 20th and lake.
johnwcookjr 10-09-05, 12:04 PM WOWT issues, yes, as I posted earlier this week it seems to come/go although the signal strength on my recievers are almost pegged at 100%.
I've tried attenuating the signal using my Rat Shack variable attenuator that didn't help. I've a fixed 6dB attenuator around here somewhere, I may stick that in line before the variable and see what happens.
If the problem is on my end I'd guess the signal is too hot on a muli-path node but all of my other mapped digital locals are received great. Tweaking the rotor doesn't appear to help. Everything was fine with WOWT up until recently. Living straight south of Crown Point in a hole in Papillion just about 1 block west of 72nd st. puts WOWT directly behind KMTV and KETV, WOWT being the most northern antenna on the crown point hill. I've always wondered if the three of them lined up one behind the other ha any effect from my location here in Papillion. Getting the attenuation just right and the rotor in the right direction to minimize the multi-path node that's causing me problems may take part of an evening to figure out, finding time will be a problem. Maybe it would be easier for WOWT to move their antenna east or west a bit. ;)
With the Rat Shack UHF/Rotor combo pointed at about 345 degrees true, I can pick up all of the metro area digital channels (except for Pappas and occasiionally WOWT.) Council Bluffs, Red Oak, NE12 and NE26 digitals also come in great.
John
tylerdurden 10-09-05, 01:02 PM I don't think it's signal strength, I'm consistently > 90% and I've never had this problem. Back in the days when WOWT was running their digital channel at lower strength, when I did have signal strength issues the problem was much different. It was sections of the screen being scrambled/pixellated and it was accompanied by a loss of audio - that's one thing I didn't mention in the original post, I *never* have any audio dropout...
Perhaps it's a multipathing issue, but again I haven't had this problem until recently and now it's nearly constant and I can't think of anything that has changed that would cause a multipath issue for me. I'm 20 miles due north of Crown Point, so hearing that the problem is also present due south makes me think it's even less likely that something is suddenly causing a multipath issue...
I wonder if it isn't related to WOWT adding the sub-channel for UPN... But I wasn't watching enough during the summer or paying enough attention to the change WOWT was making to prepare for it so I don't know if the problem started when they added the subchannel or made some related change or not...
DinosaurInc 10-09-05, 05:30 PM New here guys,
I've had the same problem with WOWT 6.1. I'm in mid-town Omaha--literally 2 blocks from WOWT and just got my Tuner up and running. Signal strength for WOWT is at about 85% but it is almost unbearable. I get a better "consistent" picture from station broadcasting at lower signal strength. Don't really know what to do.
This thread is mega-long and I was wondering what channels were actually offered. I get 3, 6, 7, 12, 26 for digital, should there be any more? On antennaweb they have like 6 or 7 channels listed including FOX and WB, it would rock to get those too. Any suggestions?
Please don't flame for not reading the entire 115 page thread.
Thanks,
DW
boardmanDJ 10-09-05, 06:41 PM Fox & WB should be up by the end of the week, or next, or perhaps this time 10 years from now. We keep hearing estimates, but they keep getting delayed. So don't feel bad.
Last estimate was "a couple of weeks", and that was about a week ago.
(Fox will be on 43-1 and WB will be 38-1)
6 on the other hand is jumpy at a couple of locations in Lincoln, one near I-80 & 27th where there's a nice hill and everything else comes in.
The jump problem, rather than pixelization makes me think it's some sort of encoding issue.
Maybe somebody can pop the hood and check the timing belt!
ne tv eng 10-09-05, 06:43 PM WOWT might have some troubles...but don't forget, WOWT-DT is ch22...There are quite a few channels around them, KETV-DT20, KOLN-DT25, KYNE-TV26/DT17 etc etc...
It may just be too much RF overloading the front ends of the recievers.....
Could always try the "unplug, reset, rescan".....
good luck
johnwcookjr 10-09-05, 06:51 PM WOWT was working great today during the race, I set the rotor a bit more to the West of NorthWest and reception was rock solid during the entire broadcast.
gpflepsen 10-10-05, 10:18 AM I guess I'm the exception to a problematic WOW-DT. I haven't experienced one moment of signal problems since they upped power, what- a year or more ago?
I am close to 40th and Old Cheny (Lincoln). In the attic I use an Antennacraft MXU-59 (http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=MXU59&xzoom=zoom) yagi pointed towards Omaha (40°) combined w/ radioshack's 40" boom antenna (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2160) pointed towards Seward (280°). They are combined with a typical splitter/combiner from two equal lengths of coax, then boosted with a rat shack 10db amp. I use the amp mostly because of the splitting inside the house.
PAULSTORM 10-10-05, 11:00 AM Is anybody else here able to pick up KGIN-DT (ch 32 remapped to 11)? I was wondering if you were able to pick up 11.2, which is their UPN Nebr. I emailed the engineer at 10/11 and he's ignoring me now. I alerted to him to the fact that no one else on this board can pick up 11.2 and the NTV engineering staff is unable to pick it up. Then they have the gall to run the ad asking if "are you able to watch UPN Nebr?"
DinosaurInc 10-10-05, 11:26 AM Fox & WB should be up by the end of the week, or next, or perhaps this time 10 years from now. We keep hearing estimates, but they keep getting delayed. So don't feel bad.
Last estimate was "a couple of weeks", and that was about a week ago.
(Fox will be on 43-1 and WB will be 38-1)
6 on the other hand is jumpy at a couple of locations in Lincoln, one near I-80 & 27th where there's a nice hill and everything else comes in.
The jump problem, rather than pixelization makes me think it's some sort of encoding issue.
Maybe somebody can pop the hood and check the timing belt!
lol :D
My wife and I were watching SNL on Saturday on WOWT 6.1 and for the first three minutes it came in amazing!!! At the time it was 4:3 broadcast or letter and pillar-boxed and it had no hiccups or problems at all. Then right after I said to my wife, "Hey babe, look at that: now it's comin' in good" it switched into widescreen format and the hiccups resumed. It is really annoying. My signal strength is strong but I just can't seem to keep the picture on without dropping the signal (even though the signal reads at about 85%). I get KETV with no problem and the signal is at about 60%.
Good news about KPTM and WB for the future at least.
boardmanDJ 10-11-05, 10:40 PM Is anybody else here able to pick up KGIN-DT (ch 32 remapped to 11)? I was wondering if you were able to pick up 11.2, which is their UPN Nebr. I emailed the engineer at 10/11 and he's ignoring me now. I alerted to him to the fact that no one else on this board can pick up 11.2 and the NTV engineering staff is unable to pick it up. Then they have the gall to run the ad asking if "are you able to watch UPN Nebr?"
I caught 32-1 the other night and it only re-mapped with 11-1, no 11-2.
boardmanDJ 10-11-05, 10:45 PM My local CBS station has a little white "Lucent Digital" logo/bug to the right of the CBS bug during all network programming tonight.
This is also showing up during non-HD programs. It's kind of annoying as it overlaps the black side bars and actual program video.
I hoep this isn't going to become a constant. It's distracting. Even if it were just over in the black space it would be better.
Anybody know anything about this "feature"?
Just checked CBS HD, local issue.
TreoFred 10-11-05, 11:34 PM My local CBS station has a little white "Lucent Digital" logo/bug to the right of the CBS bug
I guess your CBS station needs to update. AFAIK, Lucent Digital Video (LDV) has stopped existing in September 2001, after being purchased by Aastra.
http://www.lucent.com/press/0901/010928.coa.html
Oh well :rolleyes:
boardmanDJ 10-11-05, 11:53 PM Looks like KM3 doesn't have it, but 10/11 does.
DennisK 10-12-05, 08:49 AM WOWT was working great today during the race, I set the rotor a bit more to the West of NorthWest and reception was rock solid during the entire broadcast.
I have an antenna on a rotor up on the roof. I use it for both the RS Accurian HD receiver and an HD-TiVo. The race was unwatchable (jerky) on the RS Accurian but just fine on the HD-TiVo.
I do have a cheap four-way amp between the antenna and the two receivers. (Not using the other two outlets at this time.)
Ideas -- should I mess with the amp settings or try turning the antenna slightly?
Edited to add -- signal strength on both was mid-90s so I am baffled -- wondering if I'm dealing with overloading the receiver, or having "too good" a signal?
PAULSTORM 10-12-05, 10:12 AM I caught 32-1 the other night and it only re-mapped with 11-1, no 11-2.
Just what I suspected. Thanks for your reply boardman!
I also noticed the Lucent Digital icon on 10/11 the past few days. Very annoying.
johnwcookjr 10-12-05, 06:48 PM DennisK,
Where is the amp located? Ideally you should install the amp at the antenna and run a single RG6 down into the house to your Node 0 distribution point. If you fan out from there use a splitter as required.
By the description you've given your antenna cable is run into the house to a 1 in - 4 out amplifer. You're right, although not cheap, the other approach I mentioned above is preferable. Putting the amp in the house and not at the antenna amplifies any noise picked up on the way into the house as well as the attenuated signal from the antenna.
Signal strength on my receivers doesn't usually indicate that they'll lockup, multipath appears to rear it's ugly head at my location quite often. Rotating the antenna off axis usually clears things up.
John
fingersdlp 10-13-05, 11:23 AM I have Cox Digital in Omaha - ever since they added TND HD I started getting breakups and pauses in my HD channels. I called them and they reset my DVR and that may have helped but I still see issues. Is it just me or does anyone else see this? I plan on calling cox again but wanted to check if others are having issues.
Brian
Cornhustler 10-13-05, 02:34 PM I still can't receive KGIN channel 11-2.
I emailed KOLN/KGIN and they are aware of the problem. In their reply they wanted to know my receiver brand and model. They have had a signal on the air since Sept. 1 and they claim the cable companies and their studio in GI are able to pick it up. Hopefully they will get it figured out soon.
PAULSTORM 10-13-05, 02:39 PM I still can't receive KGIN channel 11-2.
I emailed KOLN/KGIN and they are aware of the problem. In their reply they wanted to know my receiver brand and model. They have had a signal on the air since Sept. 1 and they claim the cable companies and their studio in GI are able to pick it up. Hopefully they will get it figured out soon.
I was going to post the same thing. I got an email requesting the same info. I even emailed back that I saw on a discussion forum that someone with a Directv receiver couldn't pick it up (in reference to your earlier post).
I still think the cable companies are picking up 10.2 and doing so off of a tall antenna since 10.2 is receivable in Kearney quite a bit of the time.
evilpete 10-14-05, 11:02 AM Does NETV broadcast channel guide info? What about 6-2 UPN?
I don't get guide data for either of these on my E* 811 - is this because the local channels aren't broadcasting it, or is is just my receiver?
rmalbers 10-14-05, 01:02 PM fingersdlp: No breakup for me. Sony with cablecard.
ScottChez 10-14-05, 02:02 PM I think its the TV station NOT sending guide data to Dishnetwork. I can seem to get a straight answer from either TV station. One time I asked and they though they were waiting for there sub channels to be uplinked for this to happen. I dont think that has anything to do with it, they just need to send them the data file in an Email (TV listing).
"I don't get guide data for either of these on my E* 811 - is this because the local channels aren't broadcasting it, or is is just my receiver? "
Huskerfan 10-14-05, 02:55 PM I have Cox Digital in Omaha - ever since they added TND HD I started getting breakups and pauses in my HD channels. I called them and they reset my DVR and that may have helped but I still see issues. Is it just me or does anyone else see this? I plan on calling cox again but wanted to check if others are having issues.
Brian
No problems for me. Fox HD was great to watch the game last night. :)
Are you going through a splitter for your HD signal? They say you need a very clean signal for HD.
Anyone know why in Lincoln we don't yet have KPTM in HD on TWC? It's NFL and playoff baseball time! If it's on Cox in Omaha why not here?
Come on Time Warner!
boardmanDJ 10-14-05, 05:40 PM KPTM doesn't get to Lincoln yet. Still on low power.
This spring there was a news story in the Journal Star about Time Warner getting Fox after they went full power.
KETV was on HD cable soon after they got their new tower up (Less than a week, I think), so there is hope.
Ronald L M 10-14-05, 05:42 PM Anyone know why in Lincoln we don't yet have KPTM in HD on TWC? It's NFL and playoff baseball time! If it's on Cox in Omaha why not here?
Come on Time Warner!
Hopefully any day Kptm should be full power OTA, I have heard they are close but that was weeks ago.
Hopefully any day Kptm should be full power OTA, I have heard they are close but that was weeks ago.
If anyone noticed that kptm was off the air on thursday.
A phone call yielded this:
They are making the cutover to the new antenna on the top
of the tower. will be running still at half power, but reception
should be alot better since it is coming off the top of the tower
now.
asked about HD:
After the cutover is complete, it would be after the baseball
games to start testing over-air testing. most of the testing
will be done in the daytime.
Looks like there is a light at the end of the tunnel for Kptm.
docwho
Cornhustler 10-14-05, 09:22 PM Looks like KOLN/KGIN got the problem fixed with KGIN DT channel 11.2 UPN Nebraska out of Grand Island. The signal is finally coming in OTA.
PAULSTORM 10-15-05, 09:50 AM Looks like KOLN/KGIN got the problem fixed with KGIN DT channel 11.2 UPN Nebraska out of Grand Island. The signal is finally coming in OTA.
Thanx for the update Corn! I haven't tried it lately but will do so this weekend.
st30247 10-15-05, 03:32 PM KPTM-DT is working in Lincoln Over the air, as of this afternoon.
The TV says it is displaying at HD resolution, but I'm not sure if the Games will be in HD this afternoon, but we'll see.
ScottChez 10-15-05, 04:42 PM ====================================
An Omaha-Lincoln HD Breaking NEWS Alert
====================================
Confirmed, KPTM is up in full HD, the baseball game is in HD. My bar shows 100% just as high as KETV.
Channel 43-1 or remapped to 42-1 You may have to rescan to get it.
I would assume they will be testing on and off as they tweak for a while. HD seems to go to SD sometimes then back to HD.
There sister station that Pappas was also managing 38-1 and 38-2 remapped to 15-1 and 15-2 does not seem to be full power or even on that I can tell yet.
Right now with the game on, it is so good of picture quality that I almost cried, there SD picture over theyears sent on Dishnetwork , direct tv and Cable has been very bad quality for games.
I'm about 70 miles SE of Omaha and I'm receiving 42-1 (43) with both my MyHD MDP-130 and a Dish Network 811. Both are showing a signal strength of 85-87%. I haven't seen any of the drops back to SD that ScottChez reported, but I haven't been able to sit and watch it much.
FWIW, KPTM-DT's signal strength is about the same here as is KETV-DT & WOWT-DT and a little better than KMTV-DT.
boardmanDJ 10-15-05, 08:09 PM I'm getting about half the bars in Lincoln's little 27th & Highway 2 dip.
Very nice picture. The Samsung box doesn't remap to 42-1, but hey, there's a picture!
Keep in mind that half power doesn't mean half coverage. It's a good strong initial kick that you need and it appears KPTM has that. Extra power helps fill in the cracks and penetrate brick walls.
I am getting good signal strength (60-65%) here in Lincoln at 20th and Lake. Its the same as KETV. Good work!
Brad Smith 10-15-05, 10:36 PM Seems like they took the signal down. Haven't been able to get it for nearly an hour. Maybe they were just testing today.
johnwcookjr 10-17-05, 10:15 AM I tried to tune in 43 and 38 last night (roughly 10:00pm) and didn't receive anything. In months past I'd normally see KXVO at ~20-30% signal strength depending upon the weather, KPTM was usually nothing at all reception wise.
Last night not even a blip on the strength meter, are they broadcasting? Can someone confirm that KPTM is now on top of the tower?
Not looking good at my location.
PAULSTORM 10-17-05, 10:21 AM Mon AM when posting this--KPTM must not be at full power. Here in Kearney, I was picking up all the Omaha stations except for KPTM-DT. I was picking up 42's analog signal, though, in a fuzzy way which happens quite a bit.
On another note, 11.2-UPN Nebr-is now coming in.
Bruehaha 10-17-05, 09:16 PM anyone having ota problems with channel 7? It is screeching audio from time to time. Do not seem to have problems with the other stations though.
gpflepsen 10-17-05, 09:46 PM same here...
Anyone else experience occasional dropouts during 'Surface' on WOWT-DT tonight?
M
toe jam 10-17-05, 10:20 PM can anyone recommend a decent indoor antenna? i recently bought the accurian hdtv receiver, along with a terk hdtvi antenna, which worked ok, but wasn't quite up to snuff. i really just need kmtv-dt, which the antenna got clear for the most part, only every few minutes the signal would drop out from nearly 90% to less than 50%, resulting in freezes that were extremely annoying. so i took it back and tried the terk tv5, which was pretty much worthless.
i think i'm going to try the zenith silver sensor next, since that seems to be the most well regarded of the indoor antennas, but i was hoping someone else in the omaha/lincoln area might have a recommendation. if it helps, i live near 60th and q in omaha. unfortunately, an outdoor antenna isn't an option because i rent and the landlords will have none of that.
if all else fails, i might go back to the terk hdtvi, or maybe even try the "amplified" version, the terk hdtva.
DennisK 10-18-05, 12:23 PM anyone having ota problems with channel 7? It is screeching audio from time to time. Do not seem to have problems with the other stations though.
I had problems with the DD audio for MNF last night. Only watched the first half so don't know if it got any better. It was annoying.
gpflepsen 10-18-05, 12:28 PM But Speaking of HD OTA, is there anything we can do to help this guy out?
Any one we Email (like the board members)? Anyone know there Emails?
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=2039200
From Todays Omaha World Herald Front page
"Wendy and Arthur Erickson's antenna is getting a bad reception in their northwest Omaha neighborhood. The Diamond Head Homeowners Association has sued the Ericksons, contending that the antenna on their roof violates the neighborhood's covenants. The lawsuit, filed this week, asks that the Ericksons remove the antenna and pay court costs. "
Has there been any latest word on this situatiuon?
DennisK 10-18-05, 05:23 PM DennisK,
Where is the amp located? Ideally you should install the amp at the antenna and run a single RG6 down into the house to your Node 0 distribution point. If you fan out from there use a splitter as required.
By the description you've given your antenna cable is run into the house to a 1 in - 4 out amplifer. You're right, although not cheap, the other approach I mentioned above is preferable. Putting the amp in the house and not at the antenna amplifies any noise picked up on the way into the house as well as the attenuated signal from the antenna.
Signal strength on my receivers doesn't usually indicate that they'll lockup, multipath appears to rear it's ugly head at my location quite often. Rotating the antenna off axis usually clears things up.
John
Thanks for the info, John. About a year ago I put an amp on the mast but it didn't make any difference (back when I was trying to get KPTM before I found this forum and learned that it wasn't possible from my location) and I returned it. I've always had great luck getting 3, 6 and 7 without an amp. I'll probably remove the 4 to 1 amp and just put in a simple splitter.
Next time the problem occurs, I'll try your idea of swinging the antenna around a bit and re-aiming. :)
toe jam 10-18-05, 06:28 PM Has there been any latest word on this situatiuon?
i'm jumping into this conversation late, but i believe there are laws protecting their right to use an antenna, regardless of any housing covenants.
Bruehaha 10-19-05, 12:01 AM Any updates on kptm? When are they going full time full power?
DennisK 10-19-05, 10:48 AM Anyone else experience occasional dropouts during 'Surface' on WOWT-DT tonight?
M
I recorded it on my HD-Tivo (Directv). We got around to watching it last night and there were a handful of drop outs for us.
hdsupporter 10-19-05, 01:38 PM Got this response from KTPM as of today:
"We are working to have KPTM-DT on the air full time by late next week.
Thanks for your patience,
Seth Menking
KPTM/KXVO Engineering
402-558-4200 Main
402-554-4236 Direct
402-554-4290 Fax
"
Ronald L M 10-21-05, 09:01 AM Got this response from KTPM as of today:
"We are working to have KPTM-DT on the air full time by late next week.
Thanks for your patience,
Seth Menking
KPTM/KXVO Engineering
402-558-4200 Main
402-554-4236 Direct
402-554-4290 Fax
"
How many deadlines have Kptm missed? (too many) and we are suppose to believe that they will finally be full power late next week? I'm not counting on it! The World Series starts tomorrow and no Kptm-Hd OTA :(
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I've been getting KPTM-DT just fine...in HD, too.
M
ScottChez 10-21-05, 07:51 PM Word I am hearing is the guy that come out to sweep the line got mad and walked off the site. They are waiting for someone else who should be there Monday. Something about a big signal leak when they fired it up saturday.
I guess the FCC requires that the lines be sweeped for Signal loose so it does not interfer with other broadcasts.
Bruehaha 10-22-05, 10:07 AM ScottChez
Curious, what the heck would have made this guy mad enough to walk off the job. Seems crazy.
I fired up my antenna (amplified channel master circle) again yesterday, took back my cox box. I am picking up all kinds of channels probably 20 with many duplicates on cbs and public tv in IA and NE but no kptm.
Am i correct that they are working off the new antenna but just off of low power? Did they ever figure out the 42 being to close to the analog 42 thing so you would not have to buy a filter? I would guess that I would living at 156 be able to pick it up. I hope the 42's being to close thing isn't going to linger.
forcemac 10-22-05, 12:00 PM anyone ever get the LG-3510A DVD/HDTV tuner to work with cox? When I run the auto setup it says it sees 140 channels, but I only get like 4 when I actually go through to see the the channels...I get KPTM HD and the ABC HD channl, latin MTV, and a movie channel I think...which I don't normally get on my regular cox box..
Bruehaha 10-22-05, 02:58 PM I get all kinds of channels usually ending in the .9 including all the channels you mention and more with the sharp aquos 45". No espn though. I think I will have to order the hd package from dtv for espn mnf next year. I wish there were some free way to get espn hd, but I dont envision anything for this ever.
forcemac 10-22-05, 05:13 PM I get all kinds of channels usually ending in the .9 including all the channels you mention and more with the sharp aquos 45". No espn though. I think I will have to order the hd package from dtv for espn mnf next year. I wish there were some free way to get espn hd, but I dont envision anything for this ever.
are u using that LG LST-3510A?
its pretty much garbage for me right now becuase it only gets four channels...is there anything like a config menu besides setting IRC/HRC/STD?>
Huskerfan 10-22-05, 07:26 PM are u using that LG LST-3510A?
its pretty much garbage for me right now becuase it only gets four channels...is there anything like a config menu besides setting IRC/HRC/STD?>
Do you have an antenna running to it? I'm thinkin you have to sign up for the hd service from Cox and use their hd box to get their hd channels. So, unless you are grabbing the signals ota then you won't receive them from Cox.
forcemac 10-22-05, 07:48 PM Do you have an antenna running to it? I'm thinkin you have to sign up for the hd service from Cox and use their hd box to get their hd channels. So, unless you are grabbing the signals ota then you won't receive them from Cox.
yes I have a cox box and subscribe to the HD service. I have the cox box on another tv. I have this LG 3510 QAM tuner on my projector down in the basement. Problem is that it doesn't recieve any channels when plugged into to the wall socket. I have an OTA atenna, and that workds fine, but I want all my cable channels to come through on the 3510...HD doesn't matter really to me or not...as the projector is only 800x600........is this possible?
Bruehaha 10-23-05, 10:35 AM I was talking about the tuner built in to the sharp. It should pick up all the pubicly anntenna free stations that cox carries. That would mean the big 4 you are talking about, and PBS type stuff. I do not think cox is doing upn, so you may not be missing much. With the $$$ cox is getting to rent the equipment, I do not think we will get to a day when you can buy your own box and pick up tier based HD feeds.
Or, are there cable cards that will pick up teir based hd feeds? Could I pay cox $10 month for their hd package, add a cable card, and get their espn hd? Hmmm.
RU Geekman 10-23-05, 07:51 PM Bruehaha -- Sorry, but my private mailbox was full when you tried to contact me last week. Please try again.
Experienced more audio dropouts during "Surface" tonight on WOWT-DT OTA. I noticed that everytime it dropped out, ny receiver went from Dolby Digital to ProLogic. Watching a little Las Vegas, which was on right after Surface, but not seeing any problems at this time.
OOOPs, just had one....23 minutes into the show. May or may not have been the first.
Any ideas?
Mike
Recorded E-ring and Law and Order Wednesday and had dropouts during that quite a bit too - never used too. Only started getting dropouts the past few weeks....
ScottChez 10-25-05, 09:52 AM I am also now getting drop outs on WOWT.
I notice them becuase my Dishnetwork 942 DVR has an issue with any DTV recorded content, when there is a drop out, it thinks the show is over and returns me to the "show is over screen, do you want to delete it"
If I go back to the whats recorded list and hit resume the show goes on again , but only if I go past the drop out part.
This has happened on 4 different shows now over the last 2 weeks. I almost wonder if the drop outs are related to when WOWT put UPN up. Maybe its a bandwidth tweaking issue?
hammer32 10-25-05, 01:06 PM I've seen occasional break-ups on WOWT-DT OTA on our HDTiVo over the past couple of weeks as well.
MattInLincoln 10-25-05, 04:58 PM The NBC problems seem to be on a national level. There's a thread about this in the HDTV Programming forum.
UnderDaHill 10-26-05, 01:31 PM Anyone know of a decent antenna installer in Omaha that has a clue about OTA HDTV?
Huskerfan 10-26-05, 01:47 PM yes I have a cox box and subscribe to the HD service. I have the cox box on another tv. I have this LG 3510 QAM tuner on my projector down in the basement. Problem is that it doesn't recieve any channels when plugged into to the wall socket. I have an OTA atenna, and that workds fine, but I want all my cable channels to come through on the 3510...HD doesn't matter really to me or not...as the projector is only 800x600........is this possible?
I would think you should be able to receive the unscrambled channels (ie. 1-76). I don't have any experience with the LG. You might try some of the settings like a cable/ota setting for example. Keep messing around with it. Sometimes it'll take me quite a lot of experimintation befoe I succeed.
Good Luck!
Email from KPTM today:
"We are now connected to the new antenna at the top of the tower. We have a minor problem with the transmission line that is preventing us from bringing our HD signal up to full power. We hope that the new part will arrive today or tomorrow. Once this happens we will have to take KPTM off the air during the overnight to replace the part. We are very hopeful replacing this part takes care of the problem and we are able to bring our HD signal up to full power very soon.
Thanks for your patience."
hammer32 10-27-05, 06:23 PM Anyone know of a decent antenna installer in Omaha that has a clue about OTA HDTV?
I used J+M Electronics (on Cornhusker Rd) a few weeks ago to install our OTA antenna, the guy was very polite and did a great job. I already had the antenna, but they have them in stock too.
johnwcookjr 10-27-05, 07:43 PM PMKMDJ,
Thanks for the update, looking forward to it, I'll be curious to see if I need to alter my current reception equipment.
Please post a quick note once you've started to increase power.
Regards, John
boardmanDJ 10-28-05, 11:37 AM Nice picture at 100% in Lincoln from KPTM.
If it's a test, please continue testing :)
Kptm has turned on their digital.
According to sources, it is running at full power and
they do expect some problems and outages in the near
future, in the testing phase I guess.
Looking forward to seeeing "24" in HD in January!!!!!
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johnwcookjr 10-28-05, 06:30 PM With my antenna still pointed North I'm receiving KPTM in the high 80s, I'd say I'm good to go. Any word on KXVO-DT?
John
boardmanDJ 10-29-05, 05:09 AM Last I heard (Second hand) they intended to start working on KXVO once KPTM was up and running without incident. Probably a couple of weeks.
Bruehaha 10-29-05, 10:17 AM same from my end. Finally kptm ota. In a couple of weeks with kxvo, may be a good time to have a competition to see who in the area picks up the largest channel list and what their setup is. I am getting a ton of channels. I remember the cbs only days which does not seem too far off into the past.
Wow KPTM is my strongest signal (not counting KLKN), its great. The NFL will be nice tomorrow.
danwetzel 10-29-05, 09:58 PM Howdy, Can some post a list of all the HD channels we can recieve over the air in the Omaha area. I am down here in Shenandoah and get 3, 6, 7, 36, but trying to get kptm with no luck. Everything else is 80 % or higher. Great Stuff. I have a Dish 811. I know Fox has been on and off so maybe I have bad timing. Let me know, Thanks
toe jam 10-30-05, 09:27 AM Howdy, Can some post a list of all the HD channels we can recieve over the air in the Omaha area. I am down here in Shenandoah and get 3, 6, 7, 36, but trying to get kptm with no luck. Everything else is 80 % or higher. Great Stuff. I have a Dish 811. I know Fox has been on and off so maybe I have bad timing. Let me know, Thanks
just try this site: http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx
toe jam 10-30-05, 09:30 AM Wow KPTM is my strongest signal (not counting KLKN), its great. The NFL will be nice tomorrow.
yeah, i can pick up kptm now from just about every direction, even though i'm only using a $20 silver sensor. i get 90% or higher signals from at least three different directions. now if only kmtv's signal would stop dropping out on me every few minutes.
toe jam 10-30-05, 09:35 AM With my antenna still pointed North I'm receiving KPTM in the high 80s, I'd say I'm good to go. Any word on KXVO-DT?
John
other than "smallville" or even "gilmore girls," is there anything really worth watching on kxvo in hd?
danwetzel 10-30-05, 03:51 PM Thanks Toe Jam, I did a scan and got 43-01 but there is nothing there. When I try to ad it manually, nothing comes up. What channel will KPTM scan at? Is it 43 or what. Let me know and I will try it again manually. Like to watch a fox football game in HD. Great stuff
Danwetzel
I'm near you, just southwest of Villisca. I get the following without moving my antenna:
Virtual Physical Signal
3-1 (45) 70%
6-1,6-2 (22) 85%
7-1,7-2 (20) 90%
36-1,36-2 (35) 100%
42-1 (43) 95%
My normal decoder is a computer with a MyHD MDP-130. I also have a Dish 811 which always reports slightly lower signal strength (3-5%). When you scan with the 811, it should find physical channel 43 and remap it to virtual channel 42-1.
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