I almost was in your same situation when I made the switch to Directv. Luckily, I had bought several times from my dealer and he knew how important the receiving the local OTA HD signals was. He got w/ his regional mgr to locate a different box that had the antenna input. I was very glad he located one because I don't have a digital tuner on my TV since it was one of the early HD compatible sets.

Well, a little hard work with DirecTV has paid off. I sent an email to the customer service department straight off of the DirecTV web site, and I got in touch with a rep. A few emails later, and DirecTV shipped me an HR20 to swap out with my HR21 so I can plug my antenna for local channels directly into the HR20.

So now that I have that issue resolved, I'm trying to figure out the best route to go with the antenna. I started by trying a $25 indoor antenna from Radio Shack, and had decent success. I was able to pull in all Lincoln channels, but have had spotty success with Omaha channels. My plan is to return the current antenna to Radio Shack and look into a nicer indoor antenna. I'm trying to avoid running wires for a new rooftop antenna at all costs, due to the setup of my house and my basement TV location.

Any Lincolnites on here have success with an indoor antenna? If so, let me know.

I'm in Lincoln "part time" (usually in Gretna) -- at 33rd and Vine I can get the Lincoln digital channels well, as well as WOWT, KPTM, and KXVO with an indoor antenna. KETV and KMTV require antenna amplification, special orientation, and even with that reception is more spotty. On the other hand these two channels are less essential considering they are essentially duplicated with KLKN and KOLN.

If you're in Seward (as your login handle indicates) you will likely need an amplified indoor antenna for any Omaha channels beyond Fox and CW. (The Terk TV-5 UHF/VHF bow-tie works pretty well for me; I can get KLKN-DT in Gretna very well using that antenna...) After Feb. 2009 the Lincoln locals (8, 10, and 12) are going back to their VHF assignments... while not the best VHF antenna on the market, it should at least be adequate since you are not that far from 8 and 10.

DirecTV no longer does HD Lite now that they are on there new MPeg4 Sats.

"Unless you physically can't install an antenna why would anyone want to pay DirecTV for HDLite versions of the Omaha locals when you can get the locals full 19.2mbs spectrum off air for free?"


The only HD Lite channels are the old HD channels still on MPeg2 like HDNet.
They will soon be moved to MPEG4.

All new locals are now also on MPEG4 and the new SATs.

HD Lite what they did last year because they did not have MPEG4. MPEG4 has about triple the compression rate so they can double the quality to match that of Cox. No one can tell the difference anymore.

Plus if you want the FULL Bandwidth you can still do the Free over the Air HD channels with rabbit ears.

DirectTV HR21 owners, looks like your prayers have been answered. Just saw this over at Engadget.com

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/directv-intros-two-atsc-tuner-am21-to-piggyback-hr21/

DirectTV HR21 owners, looks like your prayers have been answered. Just saw this over at Engadget.com

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/directv-intros-two-atsc-tuner-am21-to-piggyback-hr21/

Well that is just the most fantastic news I've seen in awhile. Thanks for the heads up!

Any update on the status of local HD for Lincoln and Omaha for both DirecTV and Dish?

Also, any chance of someone in the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney receiving Omaha HD local channels? It's my understanding that some of the Hastings/Kearney channels have no plans on going HD so obviously no chance of getting those in HD over Dish or DirecTV...

cox DCT 3416

any one know if the HDMI port is active? I was looking at this TV http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2191143&sku=S452-2300 and wanted to make sure it was active before I bought the HDMI cable.

Thanks

cox DCT 3416
any one know if the HDMI port is active?

We had a Cox 6416 and it failed, then they gave us a 3416 and it failed, then they gave us our current 6416 and it's worked fine for a long time. For all three models -- including the 3416 -- they've been connected to the TV via an HDMI cable.

Any update on the status of local HD for Lincoln and Omaha for both DirecTV and Dish?

Also, any chance of someone in the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney receiving Omaha HD local channels? It's my understanding that some of the Hastings/Kearney channels have no plans on going HD so obviously no chance of getting those in HD over Dish or DirecTV...

I live in Lincoln, and have been testing out a couple different antennas in order to obtain Omaha HD stations. I had a RadioShack indoor model that I paid about $25 for. I was able to pull in the FOX feed, but 6.1, 7.1 proved to be hit and miss. I have since returned that model and have a Terk indoor antenna that I bought off amazon.com on the way. I'm hoping for better results with this model.

Hi all,

I have an OTA antenna question as well. I switched from Cox to Direct TV a few months ago and have been receiving local HD OTA since. I'm using a Phillips 50dB amplified indoor antenna, and have limited success pulling in OTA signals. I can receive the following without issue, putting the antenna anywhere in the house:
3-1
6-1
6-2
7-1
7-2

I can most of the time receive the following by putting the antenna in 1 location, and not using the amplification at all:
15-1
15-2
26-1
26-2
26-3
42-1
42-2

I have never received any of the following, no matter what I've tried:
26-5
36-1
36-2

My main concern is the sporadic Fox signal. Until recently, I didn't really care about the Fox signal only being SD, but recently I have decided that I really want it in HD. (Bowls, Playoffs, Superbowl, Terminator, Nascar) Their tower is located near Gretna, W-SW of my location, but I can only receive their signal with the antenna in 1 location. (and I mean if I move it one inch in any direction from here, it won't come in at all) Oddly, this one location is facing dead west, and I discovered it by givig up on dragging the antenna around for 2 hours and depositing it here! In this one location, it is very subject to loss of signal and pixelation, and seems to work better at night than during the day.

I am in extreme NW Omaha, very near Bennington. I have LOS to the 72nd and Crowne Point towers, but not so much to Gretna. To compount my dilemna, the main room where I am trying this is located on the NW side of the house, facing away from both locations. It does not appear to be an issue to the 72nd location, but sure is to Gretna.

What is everyone else doing for their OTA signals? Is there a solution other than mounting an outdoor antenna or attic antenna for receiving signals? I know Omaha is on the list for HD over satellite, but I'm not betting it will be done in time for a lot of these events.

Thanks for any tips and info you have to offer.

Rexx -

I am in the 156th and Maple area - so not too far from you. I also have that same Phillips antenna. I did have a Zenith "Silver Sensor", which worked better than the Phillips, but it broke and I have not been able to fix or replace it. My first recommendation is to try to get a Silver Sensor if you can find it somewhere.

I have an east exposure, so have direct LOS to the three major station towers - those are no problem. I had the same experience as you with Fox (KPTM). The only way I can get my indoor antenna to pick up FOX is to put the antenna outside on my front porch, and run a long cable back inside to my TV downstairs. As you mention, the tower is in the Gretna area, and much more difficult (at least for me) to pick it up. I have no problem getting NETV from my basement walkout exposure to the East. Bottom line for me, and probably for you, an attic antenna is the only real solution to get better reception for all the OTA channels you want. An indoor antenna is just not going to do the job without constantly moving it around, although the SS will do better than the Phillips for you.

I toyed with the idea of switching to Direct TV, but in the end I decided to stay with Cox and upgrade to the HDTV box and package. While I agree with all here who have been critical of COX and their slowness in offering more HD, I think you have to consider the "convenience" factor. I am happy with my decision. I have avoided installing an attic antenna and don't have to mess with my indoor antenna setup any more to get locals. I get all the locals with no problems. I don't have to have separate boxes for all my other non-HD tvs. While Cox does not have all the HDTV channels of DirectTV, they do have most of the channels I watch. I wish they had NFL network in HD, but it will probably be coming in the next year or so.

Everyone has their own opinion, but to me, the convenience factor won out. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info Zabo, good stuff. I've voiced my opinion of Cox louder than most on here in the past few months, and I agree totally that they have the market cornered on the convenience factor. There is so much missing from Cox that I DO want to watch that it was just right for me personally to make the switch, despite having to do a little extra wiring. I won't digress and beat a dead horse, but I'm after content and quality, other than that I won't spout any venom in this post. :)

I'm afraid I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and do some fishing in the walls one of these days to the attic for the real answer to my signal dilemna. I was told that Omaha was in the next rollout of local HD when I got installed and thought it would be a non factor by now, and I'm just impatient.

I don't think the market is as cornered as is the fact no other cable company wants to build here. Qwest even only built a few miles of tv cable, but not the full Omaha area.

anyone know when the othe HD channels will be added that were mentioned in the flyer? Has anyone tried ordering the hd channel after they already had the dvr, but didn't order the hd channels since you didn't have an HDTV, but ordered them after buying an hdtv/ I was just wondering if they charged anything to add the channels to your account?

Does this mean that you took the plunge into a new HDTV? If so congrats, you'll love it.

I don't have the foggiest idea for an answer to your question, but worst case while you straighten/figure it out with Cox you should be able to receive locals via a simple set of rabbit ears. I believe our Cox bills had the Digital Tiers and DVR charges on it, but nothing for HD access with Cox, so I wouldn't be surprised if just a simple phone call would turn them on with no billing changes.

Let us know what you find out, I'm curious if they are charging a fee for just HD, if so I can add that to my list of reasons to never go back to them! :)

I don't think the market is as cornered as is the fact no other cable company wants to build here. Qwest even only built a few miles of tv cable, but not the full Omaha area.

Yeah, it shocks me too, It's not like Omaha is a terribly low DMA. I think it's somewhere in the mid 70's on the list, and Lincoln is in the low 100's. If someone would come in to both, and be staged for the growth between the 2 I would think it would be a wise investment.

I was so hyped when Telechoice/Qwest came on the scene, and had them for quite some time, but did they ever really go beyond basic cable offerings? And I believe they only rolled out west of the Interstate in Omaha only. It's been years since I had them, and at that time it was just the basic 70-ish stations, and no DVR, HD, Digital packages, etc. Qwest/Telechoice was also testing VDSL offerings in other markets at the same time they came in with cable, did anything ever come of that, I wonder?

Does this mean that you took the plunge into a new HDTV? If so congrats, you'll love it.

I don't have the foggiest idea for an answer to your question, but worst case while you straighten/figure it out with Cox you should be able to receive locals via a simple set of rabbit ears. I believe our Cox bills had the Digital Tiers and DVR charges on it, but nothing for HD access with Cox, so I wouldn't be surprised if just a simple phone call would turn them on with no billing changes.

Let us know what you find out, I'm curious if they are charging a fee for just HD, if so I can add that to my list of reasons to never go back to them! :)


I ended up order the upgrade on line and there was no charge and am now watching TBSHD. I ordered http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=S452-2300 I know it's not the best one, but my current tv was not keeping the settings like if I watched a movie at night and it had a black scene and I was watching it at the tv would be to dark without messing with the settings.

Yeah, it shocks me too, It's not like Omaha is a terribly low DMA. I think it's somewhere in the mid 70's on the list, and Lincoln is in the low 100's. If someone would come in to both, and be staged for the growth between the 2 I would think it would be a wise investment.

I was so hyped when Telechoice/Qwest came on the scene, and had them for quite some time, but did they ever really go beyond basic cable offerings? And I believe they only rolled out west of the Interstate in Omaha only. It's been years since I had them, and at that time it was just the basic 70-ish stations, and no DVR, HD, Digital packages, etc. Qwest/Telechoice was also testing VDSL offerings in other markets at the same time they came in with cable, did anything ever come of that, I wonder?

yes Omaha is 75th DMA. I think qwest quit the tv business last year and only does Satelite now. I think they still provide qwestchoice tv, but only in the areas you mentioned.

I am in extreme NW Omaha, very near Bennington. I have LOS to the 72nd and Crowne Point towers, but not so much to Gretna. To compount my dilemna, the main room where I am trying this is located on the NW side of the house, facing away from both locations. It does not appear to be an issue to the 72nd location, but sure is to Gretna.

What is everyone else doing for their OTA signals? Is there a solution other than mounting an outdoor antenna or attic antenna for receiving signals? I know Omaha is on the list for HD over satellite, but I'm not betting it will be done in time for a lot of these events.

Thanks for any tips and info you have to offer.
I had similar issues, and even going with an attic antenna didn't work well initially. I'm at 150th & Blondo and there is no alignment for an antenna that worked well. Making problems worse is that since my TV was in the basement in the southwest corner, 15 and 42 were impossible to get. So up into the attic I went. I bought a DB-8, and while it didn't work as well as I hoped, I think it was exactly what I needed when combined with a ChannelMaster pre-amp.

What I ended up doing is taking the AntennasDirect DB-8 and aiming half of the elements towards Crown Point, then taking the other half of the elements and aiming them towards Gretna. This gives me great coverage of all the locals, though 26 is a little spotty. But this alignment seems to work ok with 12, so I always get SOMETHING for NET. 32/36 are hit and miss, but I haven't found a darn thing worth watching on IPTV in years anyway that wasn't on NET.

I had originally hoped to get KLKN and KOLN out of Lincoln, and did get them at one time, but the alignment that got me those stations unreliably also caused the Omaha stations to flake out. Right now, I'm thinking about getting a VHF antenna and aiming it west/southwest, as the Lincoln stations are supposed to move their digital signals to their analog VHF frequencies next year. Connect that to the pre-amp on the VHF side, and I'm hoping I'll have something to work with.

I chose this option as I have Qwest Choice TV, and decided that this was a cheaper option than going with Cox Digital Cable. When I priced it out, Cox seemed to be as expensive, if not more than a dish, and the dish has better programming anyway. By my math, Qwest's basic cable runs about $30 a month less than Cox's digital service, so I've just about broken even on my investment so far. (Granted, Cox digital has more channels, but the only one's that interested me were ESPN-HD and ESPN2-HD. Not worth the $30 a month...)

http://www.cox.com/omaha/digitalcable/dclineup.asp

they finally re did the lineup page

Anyone want to guess when the new HD channels will launch? I think February

I am still bumbed no USAHD for WWE

http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/images/OmahaChannelLineUp.pdf that says the effective date's February 2nd, it also has TMC/Showtime listed for ondemand

I have an hdhomerun tuner and am curious what qam channels I can get from cox. I currently have their digital cable with hd.

http://www.cox.com/omaha/digitalcable/dclineup.asp

they finally re did the lineup page

Anyone want to guess when the new HD channels will launch? I think February

I am still bumbed no USAHD for WWE

C'mon, Cox. Is it really that hard to label the HD channels to mimic what's on basic cable (ESPN = 31, but ESPNHD = 735)? It's not like you have HD channels spilling out onto the street. :mad:

I live in Lincoln, and have been testing out a couple different antennas in order to obtain Omaha HD stations. I had a RadioShack indoor model that I paid about $25 for. I was able to pull in the FOX feed, but 6.1, 7.1 proved to be hit and miss. I have since returned that model and have a Terk indoor antenna that I bought off amazon.com on the way. I'm hoping for better results with this model.

Hey, just a quick update for those of you who live in the Lincoln area. I recently recieved the Terk indoor antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007MXZB2)that I purchased off amazon.com and just wanted to let you guys know that I've had amazing success with it.

The antenna I had before was a $25 amplified anteanna I had picked up at Radio Shack, which did ok with Lincoln channels but not so good with the Omaha stations. This new Terk model, however, has no such issues. I have it sitting directly next to my Samsung DLP HDTV on top of a tower speaker, pointed towards the northeast. 6.1, 6.2, 7.1, 7.2, etc. all come in crystal clear. I'm very satisfied with this new purchase, and most of all happy that I was able to avoid running new wire for a rooftop mounted outdoor antenna, which was my fear. Would have been quite a hassle with my basement setup.

Now I just need DirecTV to start selling this bad boy (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/directv-intros-two-atsc-tuner-am21-to-piggyback-hr21/)so I can integrate these OTA channels in with my HR21 and I'll be good to go.

Great so now we have to wait another 4 months before Cox gets us some new decent channels.

Any update on the status of local HD for Lincoln and Omaha for both DirecTV and Dish?

Also, any chance of someone in the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney receiving Omaha HD local channels? It's my understanding that some of the Hastings/Kearney channels have no plans on going HD so obviously no chance of getting those in HD over Dish or DirecTV...


In case you haven't seen this---Mid '08 for locals in HD on Direct for Omaha and Lincoln-Hastings-Kearney markets: http://www.tvpredictions.com/dlocal120507.htm

Great so now we have to wait another 4 months before Cox gets us some new decent channels.

2what channels are you waiting for?

2what channels are you waiting for?

USAHD, SCIFIHD, NFLHD

USAHD, SCIFIHD, NFLHD

did you call or email them and request them?

did you call or email them and request them?

Does that even help? I called and asked several times they just say its not on their next rollout.

Does that even help? I called and asked several times they just say its not on their next rollout.

It could be that they aren't in this group, but they don't say how soon more channels will be be coming. I know when I requested ESPNU they said they would put my request on the list. All we can do is call and request them.

This HD might have been already set before the digital upgrade began, but the channel bandwidth was not there until now.

also I thought we would get the Science channel in HD

This is a bit OT, but has anyone else's COX cable internet been spotty today? It was driving me nuts earlier :(

This is a bit OT, but has anyone else's COX cable internet been spotty today? It was driving me nuts earlier :(

mine was fine

Thanks. I knew one other guy that was having issues. But it's all working now, so oh well.

Is Cox basic cable required in order to get the clear QAM HD channels? I can't get any QAM channels on either a Miglia USB tuner or a Samsung HDTV w/built-in tuner. I used to have Cox basic cable, and still have digital telephone and high-speed Internet. I don't subscribe to any video services now; I get OTA HDTV exclusively.

However, last night I was at a friend's apartment and saw that on his HDTV (not a Samsung) he gets the locals plus some on-demand programming over clear QAM. Like me, he no longer gets any video service from Cox, but does get high-speed Internet.

Any thoughts on why I might have no luck with clear QAM while my friend might? I get more locals with an antenna than I would over QAM, so clear QAM isn't a necessity -- although now I would like to check out my neighbors' On Demand. . .

I'm wondering if Cox might have actually blocked any video from coming through to me when I dropped video from my account. . . anyone else not paying for video services and getting clear QAM anyway?

I found this on other cities' forum and thought it might come in handy because of some of the questions here. I'm sure this stuff is constantly changing but it's probably better than nothing.

To see what's available for digital OTA and cable enter your zip:
http://www.silicondust.com/wiki/hdhomerun/channels

they finally re did the lineup page

Anyone want to guess when the new HD channels will launch? I think February

I am still bumbed no USAHD for WWE


I called Cox on Sunday to get my HDTV channels activated. They also sold me Showtime for 5 months at half the normal price. In the process, the CSR told me that Showtime On Demand would be launching "the next day." Monday and Tuesday have passed now with no Showtime On Demand. I'm waiting... Pondering dumping Showtime for HBO, but it doesn't look like the HBO On Demand offerings are in HD.

Also, I wish that they offered SCIFI and USA in HD as well.

I called Cox on Sunday to get my HDTV channels activated. They also sold me Showtime for 5 months at half the normal price. In the process, the CSR told me that Showtime On Demand would be launching "the next day." Monday and Tuesday have passed now with no Showtime On Demand. I'm waiting... Pondering dumping Showtime for HBO, but it doesn't look like the HBO On Demand offerings are in HD.

Also, I wish that they offered SCIFI and USA in HD as well.

I think showtime and TMC OD launch in February with the HD channels.


They are listed n the new channel lineup http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/dclineup.asp

Yeah, it shocks me too, It's not like Omaha is a terribly low DMA. I think it's somewhere in the mid 70's on the list, and Lincoln is in the low 100's. If someone would come in to both, and be staged for the growth between the 2 I would think it would be a wise investment.

I was so hyped when Telechoice/Qwest came on the scene, and had them for quite some time, but did they ever really go beyond basic cable offerings? And I believe they only rolled out west of the Interstate in Omaha only. It's been years since I had them, and at that time it was just the basic 70-ish stations, and no DVR, HD, Digital packages, etc. Qwest/Telechoice was also testing VDSL offerings in other markets at the same time they came in with cable, did anything ever come of that, I wonder?


I was under the impression that Cox had a multi-year agreement with Omaha to have some exclusive rights as a cable provider. I could be wrong but I remember reading somewhere there is an agreement with the city that expires in 2010.

I was under the impression that Cox had a multi-year agreement with Omaha to have some exclusive rights as a cable provider. I could be wrong but I remember reading somewhere there is an agreement with the city that expires in 2010.

I don't think Cox has exclusive rights since qwest had tv service it was the fact Cox was first and Qwest gave up on building the cable system out.

Cox HD anyone having problems with the HD channels? I can't recieve ESPN2HD, or A&EHD.

After a little research I found that Cox was given its franchise in 1980, and a contract for 30 years. Parts of the city are also served by Qwest, but Cox has the exclusive cable service east of 72nd. In 1980 that was a huge part of the city.

The company’s contract expires in September, 2011, and the negotiation of the new contract is already underway.

The Qwest/US West cable service was just a trial at the time, they never intended to build it out, it was just not cost effective with the equipment they were using at the time.

I thought Cox was going to add more Hd in mid Jan ? I did some research and Cox in Omaha is really falling behind in Hd offerings compared to other Cox markets.

I thought Cox was going to add more Hd in mid Jan ? I did some research and Cox in Omaha is really falling behind in Hd offerings compared to other Cox markets.

they are addind more in February

http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/dclineup.asp

Told you guys it would be a while for Cox to do anything at all sometime last month. I wouldn't be A BIT surprised if they don't have a date announced already for this "Feb rollout" for them to not have any new offerings until March, seriously. And whenever they do get around to activating the new HD channels, you will be unimpressed to say the least by the channels that are on the way.

There is hope on the horizon, and I think they're finally getting it... but this is just Cox trying to stem the tide of defections to satellite systems. I would be interested to see the #'s if anyone knows where to find such info. I personally know that in my little circle of family and friends, 25 households that recently switched from Cox to Direct TV in the Omaha metro.

Good luck to all of you that stick it out with them.

Told you guys it would be a while for Cox to do anything at all sometime last month. I wouldn't be A BIT surprised if they don't have a date announced already for this "Feb rollout" for them to not have any new offerings until March, seriously. And whenever they do get around to activating the new HD channels, you will be unimpressed to say the least by the channels that are on the way.

There is hope on the horizon, and I think they're finally getting it... but this is just Cox trying to stem the tide of defections to satellite systems. I would be interested to see the #'s if anyone knows where to find such info. I personally know that in my little circle of family and friends, 25 households that recently switched from Cox to Direct TV in the Omaha metro.

Good luck to all of you that stick it out with them.



They do February 2

http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/images/OmahaChannelLineUp.pdf

They do February 2

http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/images/OmahaChannelLineUp.pdf

The way I read the .pdf is that the channel listing is effective Feb 2nd. The new HD channels still have that damn "*" indicating 'coming soon.' So, we might, or might not, get them on the 2nd.

I know SAT has much more HD channels, but I'll be damned if I go back to them.

The way I read the .pdf is that the channel listing is effective Feb 2nd. The new HD channels still have that damn "*" indicating 'coming soon.' So, we might, or might not, get them on the 2nd.

I know SAT has much more HD channels, but I'll be damned if I go back to them.

I just got an email back and it said within the next few months the new HD will launch. Hopefully there will be more sooner then later after that.

The way I read the .pdf is that the channel listing is effective Feb 2nd. The new HD channels still have that damn "*" indicating 'coming soon.' So, we might, or might not, get them on the 2nd.

I know SAT has much more HD channels, but I'll be damned if I go back to them.

I've been with DirecTV for almost 9 years. No "buyer's remorse" here. :)

My daughter is switching from Cox to DirecTV now. She is on her 3rd cable box in the last year. Tired of losing programs that were supposed to have recorded...and others that WERE recorded and then disappeared in a matter of a couple of days. Getting lots of HD is just a bonus for her. She has had it with Cox.

I've been with DirecTV for almost 9 years. No "buyer's remorse" here. :)

My daughter is switching from Cox to DirecTV now. She is on her 3rd cable box in the last year. Tired of losing programs that were supposed to have recorded...and others that WERE recorded and then disappeared in a matter of a couple of days. Getting lots of HD is just a bonus for her. She has had it with Cox.

what model of box did she have? The 3412-3416 are alot better and are all digital and seem to handle crappy signals better then the 6412-6416 do.

what model of box did she have? The 3412-3416 are alot better and are all digital and seem to handle crappy signals better then the 6412-6416 do.

Whichever HD DVR box Cox offered, I'd guess. I'd have to ask her.

Did Cox move their NBC HD on QAM? It used to be on 108.2 but now it is only upconverted (not HD signal). Did it move or is it being broadcast that way?

Did Cox move their NBC HD on QAM? It used to be on 108.2 but now it is only upconverted (not HD signal). Did it move or is it being broadcast that way?

Depends what show you're watching. Not everything on WOWT-HD is HD, but it appears that everything is upconverted. If NBC isn't providing an HD feed, you'll get the upconverted SD feed.

Depends what show you're watching. Not everything on WOWT-HD is HD, but it appears that everything is upconverted. If NBC isn't providing an HD feed, you'll get the upconverted SD feed.

I understand that. The Today Show is usually in HD in the morning. This morning it was not. I also noticed last night that the NBC State of the Union coverage was the only one in SD.

Indirectly OT - does anyone know of a good list of the Cox Omaha QAM channels? I'm not sure which is which...

Thanks in advance.

Looks like Cox rolled out the latest tier of HD channels. Food, H&G, and History. The next tier needs to be rolling out more quickly. I did notice that the Food HD is not a simulcast of Food. I'm assuming that some of the shows such as Iron Chef America and Dinner Impossible were not recorded in HD format so they are not putting it on there. Anyways, it's a step in the right direction.

I have Cox and I just checked and have no new hd? Maverick you have Cox? If so what part of the city do you live in ?

I don't see the new channels either. I'm in Millard, 102nd and Harrison area.

I am in Papillion. 72nd and 370 area. Weird that you guys don't have it yet. Hopefully today you will get it.

They are doing the HD roll out in waves. Council Bluffs was the first part of the market to get the new HD channels....

Hopefully everyone will have it within the next week.

My daughter is switching from Cox to DirecTV now. She is on her 3rd cable box in the last year. Tired of losing programs that were supposed to have recorded...and others that WERE recorded and then disappeared in a matter of a couple of days. Getting lots of HD is just a bonus for her. She has had it with Cox.

i had a Motorola from about 6 months ago and it was total crap. It missed recordings all the time. I finally got fed up and git an HD Tivo.... my life has never been better. It took the installer around 2 hours to get the cablecards working but all is well now.

They are doing the HD roll out in waves. Council Bluffs was the first part of the market to get the new HD channels....

Hopefully everyone will have it within the next week.

I got an email after I asked when the History channelHD is coming since it's mentioned on http://www.cox.com/omaha/digitalcable/blackhistorymonth.asp?campcode=blackhistory_omahacoxnet

and it said it should be avalable in all areas by the 22nd of February.

Feb 22nd? Today is Jan 31st and some Omaha area Cox subscribers have the new hd, why would it take Cox 22 days to add the rest of us?

Feb 22nd? Today is Jan 31st and some Omaha area Cox subscribers have the new hd, why would it take Cox 22 days to add the rest of us?

B/C they're lazy b*stards, who enjoy their monopoly in the Omaha market.

Did anyone else watch CNN HD last night (GOP debate)? The picture looked awful, with lots of "static" coming through. Like CNN can't afford decent HD equipment.

Feb 22nd? Today is Jan 31st and some Omaha area Cox subscribers have the new hd, why would it take Cox 22 days to add the rest of us?

The way I read it is the 22 date is the latest everyone should have them.


They probably have to miss with the frequncy and want the time to make sure everything is right.

I'm curious, for those of you that utilize Cox for your HD, why haven't you pulled the plug? The cost difference between the 2 services (beyond the boxes which you can always work a deal on) is less than $10 per month and you'll actually be able to fully utlize that expensive equipment you've bought.

EdL
HDTV, it's crack for the eyes, I tell you, crack for the eyes.

I'm curious, for those of you that utilize Cox for your HD, why haven't you pulled the plug? The cost difference between the 2 services (beyond the boxes which you can always work a deal on) is less than $10 per month and you'll actually be able to fully utlize that expensive equipment you've bought.

EdL
HDTV, it's crack for the eyes, I tell you, crack for the eyes.



Well for me Cox has channels (CMTPure Country, FSN included in the price).

I don't think either of the satellite providers carry CMT Pure and to get the FSN channel we would need to subscribe to a sports tier

plus we have HBO which is free since we have the phone and internet through cox

We would pay $21.65 if we switched from cox to directv.

Well for me Cox has channels (CMTPure Country, FSN included in the price).

I don't think either of the satellite providers carry CMT Pure and to get the FSN channel we would need to subscribe to a sports tier

plus we have HBO which is free since we have the phone and internet through cox

We would pay $21.65 if we switched from cox to directv.

The FSN or other local sports channel is included in the basic tier without having to pay for the sports tier

The FSN or other local sports channel is included in the basic tier without having to pay for the sports tier

which one one includes it? I can't find it.

I'm curious, for those of you that utilize Cox for your HD, why haven't you pulled the plug?

I utilize Cox not only for my HD, but also for all my viewing.

Last time I checked, I am saving money by sticking with Cox for the particular package of services I have, compared to what the satellite companies offer.

I have Cox for phone and Internet service too, and I'm very happy with that service. The three bundled services allows me to get "free" HBO.

In our neighborhood, the signal quality is excellent and we rarely have outages. I have a friend (true, only one, but he is reliable) who had satellite and dropped it because of all the signal dropouts during -- his words -- "Anytime it's not sunny out." He switched TO Cox and is happy, too.

Yes, I've had some issues with the Cox Motorola DVR but those appear to be in the past. I am happy with the unit I presently have. I would say that it appears that TIVO service would be a nice upgrade, and when/if Cox ever offers it I'll switch to that. The current channel guide -- while acceptable -- is not ideal.

Probably the biggest reason I haven't considered switching is the ability to hook up "any number" of TVs (yeah, I know there's a limit) without boxes to get basic cable. I have a lot of TVs around the house and this is a big plus. I don't need lots of "upper tier" channels on them but do like news & weather channels.

Lastly -- and I know this will annoy some here, but I don't mean to do so -- my world does not revolve around HD. I am perfectly happy with a growing number of HD channels and appreciate those that are being added slowly. I watch a lot of SD, which my TV seems to happily up-convert just fine, at least for my eyes. I even watch -- GASP! -- old videotapes every now and then. For me, HD is a special delight that I enjoy occasionally, maybe regularly, but not constantly. The move to HD is something I look forward to, not demand yesterday.

I hope I've answered your question. :)

I'm curious, for those of you that utilize Cox for your HD, why haven't you pulled the plug? The cost difference between the 2 services (beyond the boxes which you can always work a deal on) is less than $10 per month and you'll actually be able to fully utlize that expensive equipment you've bought.

EdL
HDTV, it's crack for the eyes, I tell you, crack for the eyes.

If my TV reception went out in a thunderstorm once, I'd pretty much throw all the DTV equipment out into the yard and run over it. And I hear that happens, so, not for me. Plus, I have phone and internet with Cox. Also, I go out of town a lot, and Cox doesn't have a problem shutting off my service for a month or two at a pop.

Lastly, the Chinese can't shoot down my cable tv service.

Lastly, the Chinese can't shoot down my cable tv service.

Just how do you think COX is getting their feeds or the local stations for that matter if you think having local cable makes you sat. proof?

Lastly, the Chinese can't shoot down my cable tv service.

HILAROUS!!!

Btw, I had Dish for 6 months. As someone else said, if it wasn't clear skies, reception was spotty. If it was snowing, no picture whatsoever.

Also, I have all three services (digital cable, internet, phone), but no free HBO. Did I miss something?

Also, I have all three services (digital cable, internet, phone), but no free HBO. Did I miss something?

I think there's a minor catch in there -- you need to have phone service with some "feature package" -- but if you have digital cable, digital phone, and HSI service, Cox offers one of three discounts:
(1) Free HBO
(2) 100 minutes (?) of free long distance
or
(3) A monthly discount of around $10, basically the same cost as either of the above

So, you may be getting the discount instead of the HBO service. Does that help?

Lastly -- and I know this will annoy some here, but I don't mean to do so -- my world does not revolve around HD. I am perfectly happy with a growing number of HD channels and appreciate those that are being added slowly. I watch a lot of SD, which my TV seems to happily up-convert just fine, at least for my eyes. I even watch -- GASP! -- old videotapes every now and then. For me, HD is a special delight that I enjoy occasionally, maybe regularly, but not constantly. The move to HD is something I look forward to, not demand yesterday.

I hope I've answered your question. :)

Heresy Alert!!! A heretic is in our midst!!! ;) :D

DBS service should remain in all but the heaviest of rain or storm occlusion. I can see and appreciate the need for unlimited TV connections; that is one thing I've learned to live around in my (DBS) house.

HILAROUS!!!

Btw, I had Dish for 6 months. As someone else said, if it wasn't clear skies, reception was spotty. If it was snowing, no picture whatsoever.

Also, I have all three services (digital cable, internet, phone), but no free HBO. Did I miss something?

I've had DBS service for 11 years now. I have never had a winter-time outage due to snow. I may have brushed the accumulated snow off the dish at some point, but I don't recall doing it for reception reasons. I spend a lot of time in the lower level "man-cave" and when the reception goes out, I know it's because of some sever storm.

I'm curious, for those of you that utilize Cox for your HD, why haven't you pulled the plug? The cost difference between the 2 services (beyond the boxes which you can always work a deal on) is less than $10 per month and you'll actually be able to fully utlize that expensive equipment you've bought.

EdL
HDTV, it's crack for the eyes, I tell you, crack for the eyes.

Edl,

Believe me, I HAVE considered DTV/DISH - here are reasons I am staying with Cox (for now):

1. Ability to receive local stations easily - I have an indoor antenna, but cannot receive FOX unless I string it out on my front porch - the other stations don't come in consistently well, without constantly fiddling with the antenna location. I don't want to mess with installing an attic antenna.

2. Problems with multiple TVs - I have four TVs around the house - with DTV, I have to get a separate box for each, and the last time I checked, there was an additional monthly charge for each one. With Cable, I can run the cable directly into my tv (except for the one HDTV, which has a box).

3. As others have mentioned, I know of someone (someone I see regularly and work with) and he has had numerous problems with his dish - wind, rain cause problems. I don't want to deal with that.

4. Cost - every time I check, after adding all the costs, my monthly bill is higher (more than the $10 you mentioned) plus I have to purchase at least some equipment up front.

These reasons are in order of most significant to least significant - I would be willing to pay more for more HD (reason 4), but I am not willing to deal with the other problems. I do think the added cost is probably worth what you are getting with DTV.

Believe me, I do not exactly "like" COX - from the time they originally entered the Omaha market, I feel that they have misled the viewing public regarding their fee increases. I also think they have been slow to increase their HD offerings. But, they are the most convenient and reliable service (in my humble opinion) for me at the present time.

My viewing in HD is primarily sports. I am happy, but would like to have NFL network, FSN, and a few others in HD. COX has added ESPN2, TBS, and TNT in HD in the last year, which has been a big improvement. I am willing to wait for the others for now. I wish I could get the Cubs in HD !!! (can I get that on DTV?)

One last thing - I still may change my mind - when DTV does offer locals, I will re-visit this decision - maybe I will dump a TV or two at that time - who knows ?

Thanks to all here for their information and input !

Everyone,

I think slowly we are starting to argue, generically, about Cox vs. DBS. I'm guilty of it too, but I think we should shy away about the the overall arguement and keep the comments about HD.

Tar and feathering may now commence...

Just how do you think COX is getting their feeds or the local stations for that matter if you think having local cable makes you sat. proof?

Well the last time I asked Ketv about an outage they said it was a fiber line cut, so it looks like they get KETV over fiber.:)

I think there's a minor catch in there -- you need to have phone service with some "feature package" -- but if you have digital cable, digital phone, and HSI service, Cox offers one of three discounts:
(1) Free HBO
(2) 100 minutes (?) of free long distance
or
(3) A monthly discount of around $10, basically the same cost as either of the above

So, you may be getting the discount instead of the HBO service. Does that help?

this should help

http://www.cox.com/omaha/digitalservices/default.asp

To All,

Thanks for the responses.

EdL

Looks like Cox rolled out the latest tier of HD channels. Food, H&G, and History. The next tier needs to be rolling out more quickly. I did notice that the Food HD is not a simulcast of Food. I'm assuming that some of the shows such as Iron Chef America and Dinner Impossible were not recorded in HD format so they are not putting it on there. Anyways, it's a step in the right direction.


Do you have a box? The reason I ask is the last time they added chanels the Qam tuners and cable card customers got them before the customers with boxes did. Did you also go the Travel Channel HD 777?

Anyone in Omaha get the new chanels yet?

It looks like we aren't getting the Travel Channel HD yet.

Just returned a box today that has been buggy from the start. It was a 6412. Was told they are completely out of DVR boxes citywide and have a waiting list. I have another 6412 that has worked fine from the get go. Does anyone have experience coming off the waiting list as to which box they are receiving. The customer service girl was less than helpful. She said it could be either one, but
"didn't know for sure".

Just returned a box today that has been buggy from the start. It was a 6412. Was told they are completely out of DVR boxes citywide and have a waiting list. I have another 6412 that has worked fine from the get go. Does anyone have experience coming off the waiting list as to which box they are receiving. The customer service girl was less than helpful. She said it could be either one, but
"didn't know for sure".


if they are completely out they probably will have to order the new DCH boxes that come with cable cards in them.

Anyone in Omaha get the new chanels yet?

It looks like we aren't getting the Travel Channel HD yet.

We're getting all except the Travel Channel in southern Bellevue. We got the Travel channel for a bit last week, but I noticed it wasn't coming in on Friday and it hasn't reappeared. In a first, TiVo knew about these channels being active before I did :)

We're getting all except the Travel Channel in southern Bellevue. We got the Travel channel for a bit last week, but I noticed it wasn't coming in on Friday and it hasn't reappeared. In a first, TiVo knew about these channels being active before I did :)

Thanks I wonder why the Travel channel isn't launching yet? Cox owns it now. So you have a Tivo, but not a box is cable box from correct? I wonder if they are still working on them and had un scramble them, but they are not mapped to the boxes.

I have the box from cox. I didn't even know we had the Travel Channel in HD as I would have picked up on that right away. It is not on there as of now but hopefully up soon.

...So you have a Tivo, but not a box is cable box from correct? I wonder if they are still working on them and had un scramble them, but they are not mapped to the boxes.

Correct, I've got two Cox cable cards installed in the TiVo, but no actual box from Cox. The Travel Channel showed up briefly on 777 last week, but this week 777 give me a 'channel unavailable' message on the TiVo.

I have the box from cox. I didn't even know we had the Travel Channel in HD as I would have picked up on that right away. It is not on there as of now but hopefully up soon.

They didn't launch the Travel channel yet, or CinemaxHD,StarzHD that was lsted either.

Anyone in Omaha have Food Network Hd,Hgtv Hd, Golf/Versus Hd ?

while those parked in Omaha and Lincoln / Hastings, Nebraska can expect 'em on February 13th and early May, respectively. If we just rung your bell, hit us up in comments below to confirm or deny, would ya?

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/07/directv-continues-to-gift-towns-with-hd-locals/

Maybe this will give COX a reason to speed up their HD Roll-Out

Joey, Omaha hd locals on Directv Feb 13th ?and Lincoln/Hastings in early May?

while those parked in Omaha and Lincoln / Hastings, Nebraska can expect 'em on February 13th and early May, respectively. If we just rung your bell, hit us up in comments below to confirm or deny, would ya?

This is great except the only locals broadcast in HD in the G.I./Hastings area is 10/11(CBS) and PBS. Currently the local ABC, Fox, and NBC do not broadcast in HD. I would sure like to know when and if they are planning on broadcasting in HD. If anyone has any info please share.

I'm around 161st & Giles and I don't have any of the new HD channels yet.

So I called Cox and the rep stated the channels should appear March 21st.

WTF?!?! :mad:

I'm around 161st & Giles and I don't have any of the new HD channels yet.

So I called Cox and the rep stated the channels should appear March 21st.

WTF?!?! :mad:

I expected Cox to add the new Hd in January and now its Feb 8th and Cox still has not added the new hd. If Directv add Omaha's hd locals soon I'm going back to Directv.

Weather Channel HD Facility Nears Finish Line (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6525087.html)
Network Sets June 2 Launch For First HD Studio Programs

This is as exciting to some of us as a new sports channel is to others! :D

Anyone in Omaha have Food Network Hd,Hgtv Hd, Golf/Versus Hd ?


I do

Weather Channel HD Facility Nears Finish Line (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6525087.html)
Network Sets June 2 Launch For First HD Studio Programs

This is as exciting to some of us as a new sports channel is to others! :D

If you have Cox don't count on the Weather Channel in hd til 09 or 10.

Anyone in Omaha have Food Network Hd,Hgtv Hd, Golf/Versus Hd ?

We (southern Bellevue) got those three last week (and Travel for a day or two, but now it's gone).

I'm around 161st & Giles and I don't have any of the new HD channels yet.

So I called Cox and the rep stated the channels should appear March 21st.

WTF?!?! :mad:

What did you ask them? The latest info I got in an email was February 22nd when I emailed them. Like I said our area has Versus/Golf,Hitsory(History) misspelled in the guide, and Food in HD, but not the other ones.

Maybe they that you were asking when the next channels will be released.

What did you ask them? The latest info I got in an email was February 22nd when I emailed them. Like I said our area has Versus/Golf,Hitsory(History) misspelled in the guide, and Food in HD, but not the other ones.

Maybe they that you were asking when the next channels will be released.

No, I actually asked about History, Travel, etc.

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ, is it really that hard for Cox to keep their reps informed of a channel lineup?

It is really crazy how clueless the CSRs are, but that really just shows bad managment, it's really not the CSR's fault. The CSRs are only as good as the people that manage them and it goes up the line from there. It's really a hot button for me, I see bad management daily and it really makes me mad. (People who manage really need to step up or get out or the people's jobs they manage will be in another country, literally.)

Hmm..I emailed Cox as to when we can see the Travel Channel HD roll-out as Cox now owns them. The response I got back stated: You can see the Travel Channel HD on channel 777. I got home and checked the channel and it wasn't activated. So I wonder what the deal is, are they not looking at locations of where the user posted to get accurate information from that area? I have a feeling that the channels we have are system wide and not just local area.

Hmm..I emailed Cox as to when we can see the Travel Channel HD roll-out as Cox now owns them. The response I got back stated: You can see the Travel Channel HD on channel 777. I got home and checked the channel and it wasn't activated. So I wonder what the deal is, are they not looking at locations of where the user posted to get accurate information from that area? I have a feeling that the channels we have are system wide and not just local area.

you should email them and say it's not on your box and other people don't have it ethier. I bet they say it will laaunch along with the Cinemax,ShowtimeHD in March.

I checked last night, and I do not have ANY of the new channels that Cox supposedly has out - no Versus/Golf, no History, no Food network, and no Travel channel. I live northwest of 144th and Maple.

I checked last night, and I do not have ANY of the new channels that Cox supposedly has out - no Versus/Golf, no History, no Food network, and no Travel channel. I live northwest of 144th and Maple.

I heard all Omaha are supposed to have Versus/Golg,Food,History by the 22nd. They probably have to launch them staggered to make sure the system can handle it.

For anyone who has Directv:

NBC (6), CBS (3), ABC (7), FOX (42), and CW (15) are now in HD!

Thanks Directv!

For anyone who has Directv:

NBC (6), CBS (3), ABC (7), FOX (42), and CW (15) are now in HD!

Thanks Directv!

Maybe this will put pressure on Cox to roll out Hd at a quicker pace?

Think I will look into making the switch to Directv.

Last night, I noticed that I now have FOOD HD, VERSUS/GOLF HD, HISTORY HD, and HGTV HD on my Cox DCT-6412. I am in downtown Omaha.

Maybe this will put pressure on Cox to roll out Hd at a quicker pace?

Think I will look into making the switch to Directv.

why shoud it? cox has had the local hd longer than DirectTv

Last night, I noticed that I now have FOOD HD, VERSUS/GOLF HD, HISTORY HD, and HGTV HD on my Cox DCT-6412. I am in downtown Omaha.


All that is left for me is FSNHD

why shoud it? cox has had the local hd longer than DirectTv

It will put pressure on Cox because in the past with Directv you needed a antenna to get the local hd,now that advantage for Cox is gone, with Directv you can have all the national hd and Omaha's local hd.

Directv now has 59 full-time national channels (including the HD Locals), compared to 28 for Cox. And that's not even counting the 4 'West' premium channels Directv has, nor the 11 full-time regional sports channels.

Cox is hopelessly way behind, and I think they are feeling real pressure to try to keep up.

Directv now has 59 full-time national channels (including the HD Locals), compared to 28 for Cox. And that's not even counting the 4 'West' premium channels Directv has, nor the 11 full-time regional sports channels.

Cox is hopelessly way behind, and I think they are feeling real pressure to try to keep up.

That's why I switched to DirecTV. I just couldn't take it anymore + they have all of the NFL games & NFLHD.:D

EdL

I have DirecTV in Lincoln, and from what I can tell ... no HD local channels yet. Did this update affect Omaha only? I was under the impression Omaha/Lincoln were considered the same market...

They showed up today. I had to go back in and add the channels to my favorites in order to see them. HD locals via dish, I can return my OTA antenna. In case you have one of the new DirecTV DVR's (HR-21), the functionality to program it via the web was added last week.

EdL

They showed up today. You may have to add them to your favorites (that's what I had to do).

EdL

I have DirecTV in Lincoln, and from what I can tell ... no HD local channels yet. Did this update affect Omaha only? I was under the impression Omaha/Lincoln were considered the same market...

Omaha and Lincoln should be one market since they are so close but are 2 seperate markets, many cities smaller than Omaha have a bigger tv market since they include all the surrounding population, but Omaha does not get to count Lincoln.

Omaha and Lincoln should be one market since they are so close but are 2 seperate markets, many cities smaller than Omaha have a bigger tv market since they include all the surrounding population, but Omaha does not get to count Lincoln.

Using that logic, Memorial Stadium would be a seperate market on gamedays :D

I have DirecTV in Lincoln, and from what I can tell ... no HD local channels yet. Did this update affect Omaha only? I was under the impression Omaha/Lincoln were considered the same market...


It will be early May for Lincoln.... see my post on the last page.

I got four more HD channels on Cox yesterday. I'm in Millard.

Still no Travel Channel HD or Starz HD. I wonder how long it will take to get these four channels around the entire Omaha market, and then how long before we get any more channels.

Does anyone in Omaha see Starz HD on Cox yet?

I got four more HD channels on Cox yesterday. I'm in Millard.

Still no Travel Channel HD or Starz HD. I wonder how long it will take to get these four channels around the entire Omaha market, and then how long before we get any more channels.

Does anyone in Omaha see Starz HD on Cox yet?



I guess you didn't read my earlier post? Those are supposed to come in March according to an email I got.

All that's really left for me are USAHD, FSNHD, SCIFIHD, NBAHD, NHLHD, & NFLHD. I'd love for them to add the HD channel for wherever Smackdown ends up as well as ad CSTV to their sports teir.

It appears the next round of HD channels if looking at San Diego's market are: Travel Channel HD, Starz HD, Science Channel HD, NHL Network HD, and NFL Network HD. Seems nearly half of Cox's markets have the Travel Channel already available. It looks like we mimic Kansas's Cox affiliate channel line-up. I did read that Cox has had the signal available to all the affiliates since Jan. 1st, they are just rolling it out in phases accross all it's markets.

It appears the next round of HD channels if looking at San Diego's market are: Travel Channel HD, Starz HD, Science Channel HD, NHL Network HD, and NFL Network HD. Seems nearly half of Cox's markets have the Travel Channel already available. It looks like we mimic Kansas's Cox affiliate channel line-up. I did read that Cox has had the signal available to all the affiliates since Jan. 1st, they are just rolling it out in phases accross all it's markets.

StarzHD,CinemaxHD and TravelHD are the only ones promised in the flyer that we haven't recieved yet.

It would be be kind of stupid to get NHLHD since we don't have the nonHD version yet.

I'll admit from the start that I haven't read every posting on this thread, but I've noticed something lately that has me curious. People are talking about USAHD or The Travel Channel HD or whatever HD. Is there really that much material being created in HD outside of the networks and sporting events? I have the digital/HD channels in Lincoln and as I watch them, they are for the most part the same shows being shown on the regular channel, with a few exceptions like PBSHD or DiscoveryHD. Law & Order on standard TNT is the same as Law & Order on TNTHD and it is an episode that was created for 480i broadcasting.

In reality aren't we really getting a SD signal? Keeping in mind the few exceptions where a cable company is going out and buying rights to an HD show or broadcasting an HD sporting event, isn't it really a 480i signal that is being bumped to a 480p signal? Can you really get 720p out of a 480i source? It's like upconverting a dvd, isn't it? Or using digital zoom rather than optical zoom on a digital camera. The broadcaster can play with it a bit, but to get true HD the show has to be created in HD.

Bottom line (and I am curious, not poking fun or being antagonistic) what is the hype about getting USA or Travel Channel in HD or any other channel that doesn't broadcast a significant number of hours of true HD programming. I hope I'm not too far off topic by asking this.

for usa i know i watch their original programming in hd; shows like psych, burn notice, monk and i was hoping for the 4400 before it got canned.

I want USAHD because Raw is on USA in HD and I believe they have some golf on there as well.

Programming that was filmed or created before the HD boom and is now being played on the certain HD channels are being converted up. However, most of the programming now a days are being filmed with HD cameras and being saved in HD format. So they are able to take that and show that on the HD channel with the same clarity. Also, it is not just a HD image being shown through, but the 5.1 surround sound as well. On the standard channel, the analog cannot handle that much information, so they have to compress the image/sound in order to transmit the signal. In doing so, they degrade the origional format.

I feel that a true HD channel allows you to be immersed in not only the image being transmitted, but also the surround sound. When I watch a show on standard channel, my receiver process the incoming 2 channel audio into a 5.1 surround. It does a fair job, but you can hear the same sounds come out of all the speakers. In the HD format, you get seperate audio for each speaker and the left to right sound on the screen really feels like it's coming left to right in the room.

HD cameras are expensive and the production companies were slow to take them on. But it is becoming a standard and costs are slowly dropping to make them more affordable.

I'll admit from the start that I haven't read every posting on this thread, but I've noticed something lately that has me curious. People are talking about USAHD or The Travel Channel HD or whatever HD. Is there really that much material being created in HD outside of the networks and sporting events? I have the digital/HD channels in Lincoln and as I watch them, they are for the most part the same shows being shown on the regular channel, with a few exceptions like PBSHD or DiscoveryHD. Law & Order on standard TNT is the same as Law & Order on TNTHD and it is an episode that was created for 480i broadcasting.

In reality aren't we really getting a SD signal? Keeping in mind the few exceptions where a cable company is going out and buying rights to an HD show or broadcasting an HD sporting event, isn't it really a 480i signal that is being bumped to a 480p signal? Can you really get 720p out of a 480i source? It's like upconverting a dvd, isn't it? Or using digital zoom rather than optical zoom on a digital camera. The broadcaster can play with it a bit, but to get true HD the show has to be created in HD.

Bottom line (and I am curious, not poking fun or being antagonistic) what is the hype about getting USA or Travel Channel in HD or any other channel that doesn't broadcast a significant number of hours of true HD programming. I hope I'm not too far off topic by asking this.

The hype is because SD programming sucks on todays higher re$olution television $et$. Upconverted programs just look better.

EdL

Originally Posted by zabo
I checked last night, and I do not have ANY of the new channels that Cox supposedly has out - no Versus/Golf, no History, no Food network, and no Travel channel. I live northwest of 144th and Maple.

I heard all Omaha are supposed to have Versus/Golg,Food,History by the 22nd. They probably have to launch them staggered to make sure the system can handle it.

I checked again last night (2/24) and I still do not have any of these new channels.

Originally Posted by zabo
I checked last night, and I do not have ANY of the new channels that Cox supposedly has out - no Versus/Golf, no History, no Food network, and no Travel channel. I live northwest of 144th and Maple.



I checked again last night (2/24) and I still do not have any of these new channels.

call and see what they say

Should be starting today....I talked with a rep last week and they were rolling out NW Omaha on 2/26

Should be starting today....I talked with a rep last week and they were rolling out NW Omaha on 2/26

Yep, they are here (NW of 144th and Blondo) today.

inc

Hello all - forgive me if I missed this in earlier forum postings. Any word from Dish Network if they are ever gonna get local channels in HD here in Lincoln? DirecTV is now broadcasting locals in Omaha and are scheduled to do the same for Lincoln in May. You'd think that Dish would have to start doing the same to compete with DirecTV. I live in a valley so it's pretty hard to get anything over-the-air in my particular location. I can receive ABC and CBS out of Lincoln's HD towers by Seward, but that's it. Anybody heard anything?

Thanks.

Hello all - forgive me if I missed this in earlier forum postings. Any word from Dish Network if they are ever gonna get local channels in HD here in Lincoln? DirecTV is now broadcasting locals in Omaha and are scheduled to do the same for Lincoln in May. You'd think that Dish would have to start doing the same to compete with DirecTV. I live in a valley so it's pretty hard to get anything over-the-air in my particular location. I can receive ABC and CBS out of Lincoln's HD towers by Seward, but that's it. Anybody heard anything?

Thanks.

You already receive all the local commercial HD you can get anyway. NBC, Fox, CW, and MNTV are not in HD in the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney market. Not much to be gained with Dish Network HD locals anyway -- at least not until the local NBC and Fox affiliates go HD. I doubt KCWL/CW will go HD anytime soon; they don't even have a digital signal yet -- and MNTV is on a DT subchannel so no HD there either. Only one you're missing is PBS/NET.

You already receive all the local commercial HD you can get anyway. NBC, Fox, CW, and MNTV are not in HD in the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney market. Not much to be gained with Dish Network HD locals anyway -- at least not until the local NBC and Fox affiliates go HD. I doubt KCWL/CW will go HD anytime soon; they don't even have a digital signal yet -- and MNTV is on a DT subchannel so no HD there either. Only one you're missing is PBS/NET.

Okay - thanks for the info. Guess I'm still confused - as I said in my previous post, I live in somewhat of a valley so over-the-air HD signals are sketchy at best. I was receiving Fox 42 out of Omaha at one time but since cannot. I was just wanting to know when I can get the local HD channels that are available through Dish. The Dish people I call are hopeless - DirecTV seems to be a lot more knowledgeable regarding local HD availability through their networks.

Cox employees are now receiving NFL Network HD, AMC HD, Science HD and maybe one or two others...

They get the channels first then they will roll them out to the rest of us.

Stando

Which side of Lincoln are you located?

What type of antenna are you using?

Do you have a rotor up on the roof or better yet up on a mast/tower?

Are you using a UHF RF amplifier? If so where is it installed? What is the amplification level in dB and what's the noise figure on the amp?

I would venture to say that KPTM should be doable for most in Lincoln with the correct hardware and integration.

Regards, John

Cox employees are now receiving NFL Network HD, AMC HD, Science HD and maybe one or two others...

They get the channels first then they will roll them out to the rest of us.

Sweet! Sounds like they are stepping it up a little bit. They have a long ways to go, but seems like they're trying.

What's the little TV Guilde logo that recently showed up on the Cox Guide? Nothing seems different except that logo. Did TV Guide acquire the previous guide provider, or are there changes coming? (I'm speaking of the digital guide, not that useless guide on the lower tier.)

Okay - thanks for the info. Guess I'm still confused - as I said in my previous post, I live in somewhat of a valley so over-the-air HD signals are sketchy at best. I was receiving Fox 42 out of Omaha at one time but since cannot. I was just wanting to know when I can get the local HD channels that are available through Dish. The Dish people I call are hopeless - DirecTV seems to be a lot more knowledgeable regarding local HD availability through their networks.

KPTM and KXVO (Fox 42 and CW 15) do reach much of Lincoln OTA, as a previous poster said, but aren't carried on the Lincoln satellite locals packages. Instead you'd get KTVG and KCWL -- neither of which are in HD. So even if Dish HD locals become available, you would still only get SD over the satellite locals package for Fox, CW, and NBC.

From my experiences with OTA in Lincoln, though, it seems with a good antenna you should still get 15 and 42 OTA unless you're in the far south/southwest part of town (and even then you can probably get it with an aerial and/or amplified antenna). Over-the-air is the way to go in this case, if it's at all possible in your location.

I could be wrong, but I don't know of any timetable for Dish HD launch in Lincoln. DirecTV should have the HD package available soon, but would still be limited only to the stations that actually broadcast in HD (eliminating Fox, CW, and NBC).

Thanks for all the replies to my posting last week about HD channels. I hadn't thought about the audio signal. Makes perfect sense.

KPTM and KXVO (Fox 42 and CW 15) do reach much of Lincoln OTA, as a previous poster said, but aren't carried on the Lincoln satellite locals packages. Instead you'd get KTVG and KCWL -- neither of which are in HD. So even if Dish HD locals become available, you would still only get SD over the satellite locals package for Fox, CW, and NBC.

From my experiences with OTA in Lincoln, though, it seems with a good antenna you should still get 15 and 42 OTA unless you're in the far south/southwest part of town (and even then you can probably get it with an aerial and/or amplified antenna). Over-the-air is the way to go in this case, if it's at all possible in your location.

I could be wrong, but I don't know of any timetable for Dish HD launch in Lincoln. DirecTV should have the HD package available soon, but would still be limited only to the stations that actually broadcast in HD (eliminating Fox, CW, and NBC).

Thank you very much for the reply. I do live in South Lincoln - around 40th & Yankee Hill. Guess I'll hold my breath for now and see what happens in the future. Thanks.

WWE Smackdown is leaving the CW Network for MyNetwork TV or something like. I looked up MyNetwork's local affiliate and its KPTM. I thought KPTM was Fox. How does that work?

WWE Smackdown is leaving the CW Network for MyNetwork TV or something like. I looked up MyNetwork's local affiliate and its KPTM. I thought KPTM was Fox. How does that work?
With digital TV, TV stations have the ability to subdivide their signal and carry multiple channels. Every station in Omaha other than KMTV-3 carries multiple digital channels. Here's what's currently available:

3.1 CBS (analog channel 3)
6.1 NBC (analog channel 6)
6.2 62O (Independent channel; mostly reruns and infomercials)
7.1 ABC (analog channel 7)
7.2 WeatherNow (local weather featuring taped weathercasts from channel 7's meteorologists)
12.1 NET-1/PBS (analog channel 12)
12.2 NET-2 (used to be called "Educable")
12.3 NET-3 (Sometimes refered to as "Create"; PBS craft, food, how-to programming)
15.1 WB (analog channel 15)
15.2 Spanish Network (not sure if this is aligned with any network or not)
26.1 NET-1/PBS (analog channel 26)
26.2 NET-2 (same as 12.2)
26.3 NET-3 (same as 12.3)
32.1 IPTV (Iowa Public TV)
32.2 Create (same as 12.3 and 26.3)
42.1 FOX (analog channel 42)
42.2 MyTV (MyNetwork TV)

If you have a digital set, tune to 42.2 to see MyNetwork. I think Cox Cable also carries MyTV on one of their digital channels as well.

KETV ABC Channel 7 on DirecTV has Green BreakUp issues on the HD Channel


DirecTV now has all our Locals in High Def in Omaha.

They all look good except for KETV HD which has the Green Pixealate (spelling?) issue when doing HD programming (prime time).

They had this problem in Washington DC on DirecTV and ABC and they were thinking it was the Box on the Local side for the TV station feed.

KETV are you reading this? Can you check the box going to DirecTV for your HD feed. Something is not right. It is a very intermittent issue. The OTA feed is good.
I know of several that have this problem.

Here is an other thread to the Sister forum.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=68498&page=5&highlight=picture+breakup

Thank-you Scott,

I have received a couple of phone calls regarding this issue, I think it may be an issue with the encoder I use and DirecTV's receiver at the LRF (local receive facility) I communicated this to the encoder vendor and have contacted the CE of WJLA, we will compare notes. I am curious as to the device DirecTV is sending WJLA in the other thread.

Thanks again

Oh wow, just noticed they added Showtime HD OnDemand. Content is pretty slim, but they have the whole first season of The Tudors. Hope they add some more HD OnDemand.

What's the little TV Guilde logo that recently showed up on the Cox Guide? Nothing seems different except that logo. Did TV Guide acquire the previous guide provider, or are there changes coming? (I'm speaking of the digital guide, not that useless guide on the lower tier.)

yes Tvguide aquired the makers of passort/passport echo.

Sweet! Sounds like they are stepping it up a little bit. They have a long ways to go, but seems like they're trying.

considering the fact that Cox still has customers who don't have digital cable that just plug the cable into the rf port. That's most likely the reason they don't offer more HD.

Oh wow, just noticed they added Showtime HD OnDemand. Content is pretty slim, but they have the whole first season of The Tudors. Hope they add some more HD OnDemand.

you might try checking later tonight or monday for new shows. They usally update the ondemand content on sundaynight/mondaymorning.

Cox employees are now receiving NFL Network HD, AMC HD, Science HD and maybe one or two others...

They get the channels first then they will roll them out to the rest of us.

any hints if it will be the same way the first set was launched, or will all areas get them at the same time?

add CinemaxHd and StarzHD and Travel Channel HD since they were promised along with the others that launced in February.

any hints if it will be the same way the first set was launched, or will all areas get them at the same time?

add CinemaxHd and StarzHD and Travel Channel HD since they were promised along with the others that launced in February.

I would image a staggered launch just like the last update. Which means I will probably be in the last group again :eek:

Also, the other channel was MusicHD (http://www.mhd.tv)....unlike MTV, I think it only plays music.

I would image a staggered launch just like the last update. Which means I will probably be in the last group again :eek:

Also, the other channel was MusicHD (http://www.mhd.tv)....unlike MTV, I think it only plays music.

Since I was quoted a time frame of mid to late march for the rest of the HD(travel,Cinemax,and Starz) We probably will nnot see the new HD until May-June.

I would image a staggered launch just like the last update. Which means I will probably be in the last group again :eek:

Also, the other channel was MusicHD (http://www.mhd.tv)....unlike MTV, I think it only plays music.

MHD shows stuff from CMT/MTV/VH1 including shows like Storytellers,CMT Crossroads.

I would like to see Cox add Wgn-Hd, Fsn-Hd,Tennis Channel hd, Nfl Network hd. I've heard the Major League Baseball package Extra Innings is going to have some Hd games offered, I'm wondering if Cox in Omaha will carry these games?

I would like to see Cox add Wgn-Hd, Fsn-Hd,Tennis Channel hd, Nfl Network hd. I've heard the Major League Baseball package Extra Innings is going to have some Hd games offered, I'm wondering if Cox in Omaha will carry these games?

Cox doesn't carry the Tennis Chanel, so I don't think we will see the HD version soon. MLB games might be on MOJO not sure though

Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with KETV HD? We DVR'ed a few shows and I have noticed it on others, that they are not in HD on the HD channel and they picture does not fill the whole screen

This is with COX

Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with KETV HD? We DVR'ed a few shows and I have noticed it on others, that they are not in HD on the HD channel and they picture does not fill the whole screen

This is with COX

Not all the programming is in HD. KETV locally-produced content is in SD, as is ABC news and reality programming, and the daytime programs.

Also, if there is a ticker with breaking news (like last night), they usually go to SD. I'm not sure why they can't figure out how to do it with HD graphics. On Channel 42 (I think) they run a Childrens Hospital logo at the bottom of the hour to tell us the time and temp. I think that is stupid but I would guess that they get paid very well for it.

Also, if there is a ticker with breaking news (like last night), they usually go to SD. I'm not sure why they can't figure out how to do it with HD graphics. On Channel 42 (I think) they run a Childrens Hospital logo at the bottom of the hour to tell us the time and temp. I think that is stupid but I would guess that they get paid very well for it.

Maybe because nothing local is HD yet.

Maybe because nothing local is HD yet.
Excellent point.

Also, if there is a ticker with breaking news (like last night), they usually go to SD. I'm not sure why they can't figure out how to do it with HD graphics. On Channel 42 (I think) they run a Childrens Hospital logo at the bottom of the hour to tell us the time and temp. I think that is stupid but I would guess that they get paid very well for it.

To my knowledge, KETV's ticker graphic is SD-only. I don't think they have a HD graphics package yet. Actually, aside from station ID "bugs", the only area commercial stations that can do HD tickers are KPTM & KXVO. KOLN/KGIN has HD weather alert graphics but not a HD news ticker.

KPTM took a step backwards with the Children's Hospital logo, as they had the ability to put anything up and stay in HD prior to adding that, but now that they run the CH logo they have to drop to SD during the duration the logo is on screen.

Just to clarify this, it was Sunday Night during the reality Show Newly Weds........

Just to clarify this, it was Sunday Night during the reality Show Newly Weds........

that show is not in hd

Has anyone else notice that on ABC-HD on some shows that there will be two small white lines near the top middle of the screen? I thought maybe it was my tv, but when I change the channel it disappears. Also, it will go away on some commercials but not all. I have noticed this affect on this channel only.

They added HBO HD OnDemand. Not a lot there yet though. I noticed they also do the movies in HD, but that may be old since I never buy movies OnDemand...

that show is not in hd

But they have shows that are in HD on ABC right?

But they have shows that are in HD on ABC right?

yes it's just that show was not in hd

Ah ok cool!!!!!!!! Thanks a lot guys, I learn SO MUCH from this site, you all are a great help

Interesting. If folks who are visiting here are uncertain about what is and is not in HD, can you imagine how many of the "unwashed" viewers out there are also uncertain? I know of one person who argues -- ARGUES -- with me that everything in digital is HD. He insists it's the same thing. Somebody out there (TV manufacturers, TV stations, cable, satellite) isn't doing a good enough job educating people.

The guides often do have the little HD mark next to HD shows, but aren't always correct. Reminds me of the days when COLOR was listed with shows. (Yes, I'm an old-timer I guess!) Maybe they need "The following program is brought to you in LIVING HIGH DEFINITION on NBC" before a show! :p

How long before this reaches Cox in Omaha?

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0311biz-coxbrief11-ON.html
http://www.tvpredictions.com/coxarizona031108.htm

EdL

How long before this reaches Cox in Omaha?

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0311biz-coxbrief11-ON.html
http://www.tvpredictions.com/coxarizona031108.htm

EdL

what the 7 channels, or the total of 80 by years end? Omaha already has all those except fot the science channel hd.

I just heard back on my email to see how many Omaha planned to offer and the number is 75 channels, but it could more or fewer depending on if they get the contracts signed.

Cox Arizona will have 80 HD channels by the end of the year? Last I heard last year was, the best they could do is 30.

Anyone know how they are going to do it?

Is it the switched video technology I heard about last year from my old source or did they come up with something new?

Is it MPEG 4 compression like with SAT?

Will those cabe cards work?

What technology will OMaha be using? Same thing?

Cox Arizona will have 80 HD channels by the end of the year? Last I heard last year was, the best they could do is 30.

Anyone know how they are going to do it?

Is it the switched video technology I heard about last year from my old source or did they come up with something new?

Is it MPEG 4 compression like with SAT?

Will those cabe cards work?

What technology will OMaha be using? Same thing?

I am betting on upgrades t 1GHz and SDV for the 75 HD channels.

Has anyone tried to get an HD box from Cox in Omaha recently. I bought a second hdtv at the Mart over the weekend and cox is telling me they are out of standard HD and dvr HD boxes until at least April 1. they said motorola isn't keeping up with the demand nation wide. Anybody else been told the same thing? thanks.

Nice to see that KETV is starting to air Wheel of Fortune in HD - sort of. Monday night they did the first 10 minutes and then dropped to SD and Tuesday started out in SD but then switched over to HD. Not that it's the most exciting program to see in high def, but it's never bad to have more content on the air. It always annoyed me to see the "Available in HD" banner at the bottom and then have to watch it in SD.

I think that Jeopardy tapes in HD too, but I'm guessing we won't see that around here for a while since it's afternoon programming and technically not prime time.

Has anyone tried to get an HD box from Cox in Omaha recently. I bought a second hdtv at the Mart over the weekend and cox is telling me they are out of standard HD and dvr HD boxes until at least April 1. they said motorola isn't keeping up with the demand nation wide. Anybody else been told the same thing? thanks.

you can thank he FCC for the shortage since cable boxes now require cable cards and cox is not alone comcast also has a box shortage thanks to the cablecard requirement.

Please explain: What does a cable box have to do with cable cards? What cable box has a cable card in it?

Looks like I spoke too soon...no HD Wheel of Fortune on KETV tonight. I wish they'd get consistent about it. Does it cost more for them to broadcast the HD feed? Weird that they'd deny viewers HD content that is readily available to the network.

Please explain: What does a cable box have to do with cable cards? What cable box has a cable card in it?
The FCC mandated that all but the lowest-end cable boxes must have separable security (i.e., CableCard). This has been in effect since July 1, 2007.

The FCC mandated that all but the lowest-end cable boxes must have separable security (i.e., CableCard). This has been in effect since July 1, 2007.

I think it's all cable boxes not just HD and hd/DVR.

here's motorola site http://broadband.motorola.com/business/digitalvideo/productline_host_settops.asp

Looks like I spoke too soon...no HD Wheel of Fortune on KETV tonight. I wish they'd get consistent about it. Does it cost more for them to broadcast the HD feed? Weird that they'd deny viewers HD content that is readily available to the network.

They get the national hd feed, but the Wheel is not national it's syndicated, so they might beable to brodcast it in HD since they don't have anything local in HD yet.

EON anyone get a letter about cox working in your area and getting a special offer EON? Anyone kow what the special is?

EON anyone get a letter about cox working in your area and getting a special offer EON? Anyone kow what the special is?

EON... It'll be EON's before Cox reaches 80 channels of HD. :D

EdL

Looks like I spoke too soon...no HD Wheel of Fortune on KETV tonight. I wish they'd get consistent about it. Does it cost more for them to broadcast the HD feed? Weird that they'd deny viewers HD content that is readily available to the network.

Just checked and it's in HD right now. Maybe KETV was just working out the bugs on the local end.

On a semi-related note, I don't know how long they've been doing this, but I noticed this afternoon that KPTM was running the syndicated "Everybody Loves Raymond" in HD.

EON... It'll be EON's before Cox reaches 80 channels of HD. :D

EdL

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

So true.

EON... It'll be EON's before Cox reaches 80 channels of HD. :D

EdL

it's actually the 1GHz upgrade for our area

What's the difference/relationship between Fox Midwest and Fox KC? It would be nice to see 88 Royals games in HD on Cox. We are getting Fox Midwest HD, aren't we?

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What's the difference/relationship between Fox Midwest and Fox KC? It would be nice to see 88 Royals games in HD on Cox. We are getting Fox Midwest HD, aren't we?

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We get FSNKC when KC is on, but FSN Midwest when they aren't

Omaha hasn't said if we will get FSNHD.

We get FSNKC when KC is on, but FSN Midwest when they aren't

Omaha hasn't said if we will get FSNHD.

Ah, that's kind of what I figured, thanks.


For some reason, I thought that had been announced. It would sure be nice.

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I think it's all cable boxes not just HD and hd/DVR.
That's what I said. :confused:

That's what I said. :confused:

No you said all but the low end. what do you consider low end?

No you said all but the low end. what do you consider low end?
What I actually said was, "all but the lowest-end cable boxes". Cable companies can petition for low-end boxes to be exempt from the rule. No mention of SD, HD or DVR. It's likely that only boxes costing less than $75 would qualify, so it's unlikely that HD or DVR boxes would get the exemption.

What I actually said was, "all but the lowest-end cable boxes". Cable companies can petition for low-end boxes to be exempt from the rule. No mention of SD, HD or DVR. It's likely that only boxes costing less than $75 would qualify, so it's unlikely that HD or DVR boxes would get the exemption.

well Cox didn't so all there boxes that are new will have cards

Has anyone tried to get an HD box from Cox in Omaha recently. I bought a second hdtv at the Mart over the weekend and cox is telling me they are out of standard HD and dvr HD boxes until at least April 1. they said motorola isn't keeping up with the demand nation wide. Anybody else been told the same thing? thanks.

I have a DCT-6412 that is a few years old. It will periodically freeze during playbacks, which I am attributing to a dying drive. I went in to Cox and they told me that they'd have to UPS me a new one as every location in town is currently out of DVRs. They said this yesterday and told me to expect my new box on Wednesday.

I'm hoping to get something with a drive bigger than 100GB, but not holding my breath. Has anybody had any luck with doing a drive replacement? If you do a drive swap out, does the box "bootstrap itself" on the new drive and utilize all the space for recordings?

Thanks.

I have a DCT-6412 that is a few years old. It will periodically freeze during playbacks, which I am attributing to a dying drive. I went in to Cox and they told me that they'd have to UPS me a new one as every location in town is currently out of DVRs. They said this yesterday and told me to expect my new box on Wednesday.

I'm hoping to get something with a drive bigger than 100GB, but not holding my breath. Has anybody had any luck with doing a drive replacement? If you do a drive swap out, does the box "bootstrap itself" on the new drive and utilize all the space for recordings?

Thanks.

you already have a 120GB drive and no you can't add a bigger drive since you rent the box. They also have boxes with 160GB drives.

Did anyone watching CBS HD's feed of the NCAA games last night notice a "slowness" to the games? Mine was like distored

Ok, sort of off topic, we are in the market for a new Home Theater system, right now we have a all in one DVD, CD, TUNER, Line 1 & 2, system with a Sub, front channel, 2 fronts and 2 backs. I want to go Blue Ray, do they make a similar unit where instead of DVD it is blue ray?

Did anyone watching CBS HD's feed of the NCAA games last night notice a "slowness" to the games? Mine was like distored
Was out of town Saturday night, but during Thursday night's Kansas State/USC game, the feed kept pixelating every 15 seconds or so. I figured that it was the national feed because it stopped during local commercials. Signal strength seemed fine on my TV (max bars).

Primetime, currently there aren't any "all-in-one" Blu-ray boxes, just standalone players. I would think that you could add one of these to your existing setup if you hook the audio up to Line 1 or Line 2 and then the video up to your television.

I think we will wait awhile, since BR just beat out HD, I think the all in one units will become more popular

I just got a new DCH-3416 in the mail today. After plugging it in, I see a few channels on the HD tier that are "Temporarily Off Air" that I don't remember seeing even last night on my DCT-6412.

740 - NFLHD
758 - AMCHD
816 - SCNHD (Science HD)
840 - M HD (Music HD)
895 - StarzHD

I'm not sure why I see them and if it is because of the box or if they appeared for everyone in my area today. Nonetheless, there is no content on them though the guide does know what should be on.

Now I guess I need to call Cox and get this box or my account reset so I can get my HBO and On Demand working...

I just got a new DCH-3416 in the mail today. After plugging it in, I see a few channels on the HD tier that are "Temporarily Off Air" that I don't remember seeing even last night on my DCT-6412.

740 - NFLHD
758 - AMCHD
816 - SCNHD (Science HD)
840 - M HD (Music HD)
895 - StarzHD

I'm not sure why I see them and if it is because of the box or if they appeared for everyone in my area today. Nonetheless, there is no content on them though the guide does know what should be on.

Now I guess I need to call Cox and get this box or my account reset so I can get my HBO and On Demand working...

what area are you in ? is the Travel channel 777 showing up also? it sounds like your box is fresh no account settings, so after your box is refreshed you will loose those until they are launched for everybody in your area.

what area are you in ? is the Travel channel 777 showing up also? it sounds like your box is fresh no account settings, so after your box is refreshed you will loose those until they are launched for everybody in your area.

No. The box just throws up ??? if I try to go to 777. All the channels I listed above I got by channel up'ing through the HD tier.

As far as my area, I'm in downtown Omaha by the Old Market.

No. The box just throws up ??? if I try to go to 777. All the channels I listed above I got by channel up'ing through the HD tier.

As far as my area, I'm in downtown Omaha by the Old Market.

The reason I asked was because we were supposed to get the Travel channel in the group that launched with the FoodHD,HGTVHD and some others.

I just got a new DCH-3416 in the mail today. After plugging it in, I see a few channels on the HD tier that are "Temporarily Off Air" that I don't remember seeing even last night on my DCT-6412.

740 - NFLHD
758 - AMCHD
816 - SCNHD (Science HD)
840 - M HD (Music HD)
895 - StarzHD

I'm not sure why I see them and if it is because of the box or if they appeared for everyone in my area today. Nonetheless, there is no content on them though the guide does know what should be on.

Now I guess I need to call Cox and get this box or my account reset so I can get my HBO and On Demand working...

More hd is always good news, my question is why is Cox adding NFL Hd now?this channel will not have any live games until Nov, I would like to see Cox add FSN-hd they are airing 88 Kc Royals games in Hd, starting next week.

The reason I asked was because we were supposed to get the Travel channel in the group that launched with the FoodHD,HGTVHD and some others.

Right. I remember that. I called Cox to get my DVR hooked to my account properly and as we both suspected, the channels I listed above are gone. No longer in the lineup. I asked the Cox guy on the phone about it, and he didn't really have anything to add. He just agreed that I was probably seeing channels that hadn't yet been pushed out yet. He also mentioned that Cox expects 100 channels by the end of the year. We'll see...

More hd is always good news, my question is why is Cox adding NFL Hd now?this channel will not have any live games until Nov, I would like to see Cox add FSN-hd they are airing 88 Kc Royals games in Hd, starting next week.

probably because they had contracts with those channel before they started the network upgrades and don't have a contract for FSNHD.

Right. I remember that. I called Cox to get my DVR hooked to my account properly and as we both suspected, the channels I listed above are gone. No longer in the lineup. I asked the Cox guy on the phone about it, and he didn't really have anything to add. He just agreed that I was probably seeing channels that hadn't yet been pushed out yet. He also mentioned that Cox expects 100 channels by the end of the year. We'll see...

well I heard hopefully 75 HD depending on if contracts get signed 100 would be better

I got my HD box delivered yesterday to my house, much sooner than I was told it would take to arrive. Anyway, it didn't work properly to begin with. While I was on the phone with the Cox rep, he said the Cox employees are looking at about 7 HD channels right now , that should roll out within the next 3 months to customers. He mentioned the Travel channel, NFL network by name. He didn't have the list in front of him, those were the only two channels he remembered. I asked about Fox sports and he said he hadn't heard anything about that channel yet and he knew it wasn't in the 7 channels the employees were testing.

I got my HD box delivered yesterday to my house, much sooner than I was told it would take to arrive. Anyway, it didn't work properly to begin with. While I was on the phone with the Cox rep, he said the Cox employees are looking at about 7 HD channels right now , that should roll out within the next 3 months to customers. He mentioned the Travel channel, NFL network by name. He didn't have the list in front of him, those were the only two channels he remembered. I asked about Fox sports and he said he hadn't heard anything about that channel yet and he knew it wasn't in the 7 channels the employees were testing.

740 - NFLHD
758 - AMCHD
816 - SCNHD (Science HD)
840 - M HD (Music HD)

The others are most likely Travel Channel HD,Cinemax and Starz main reason is that adds up to seven just my opinion.

Another reason for FSNHD Nebraska Football.

I wonder why it's taking 3 months to launch the channels unless they need to wait until the area is upgraded to 1GHz.

BINGO..... we have a winner

When (big when) Cox rolls out 1Ghz, won't we need to switch out our boxes for ones that accept 1Ghz?

Is Cox going to MPEG-4 at the same time?

When (big when) Cox rolls out 1Ghz, won't we need to switch out our boxes for ones that accept 1Ghz?

Is Cox going to MPEG-4 at the same time?

Well it will not be atleast until 2009-2010 since Motorola just annouced Mpeg4 boxes.

They are working on getting FSNHD per an email I recieved ths afternoon. I would say if you hear of a national contract between a channel and Cox you should thny request Omaha to carry it. I think it would be pointless until cox has a national contract.

HD wishist

FSNHD
MLBHD if theye offer the channel haven't heard if they are still planing it

USAHD for Raw

MyNetworkTVHD for Smackdown

ScifiHD for ECW

HD wishist

FSNHD
MLBHD if theye offer the channel haven't heard if they are still planing it

USAHD for Raw

MyNetworkTVHD for Smackdown

ScifiHD for ECW

InDemand is offering up to 10 MLB games a week in hd as part of cable's baseball package (Extra Innings) I'm guessing Cox will only carry the sd part of the package and will not show the hd games, I'm thinking the price for Extra Innings should be reduced if Cox does not show the hd games.

InDemand is offering up to 10 MLB games a week in hd as part of cable's baseball package (Extra Innings) I'm guessing Cox will only carry the sd part of the package and will not show the hd games, I'm thinking the price for Extra Innings should be reduced if Cox does not show the hd games.

no I am talking about the baseball channel that MLB was supposed to start

no I am talking about the baseball channel that MLB was supposed to start

MLB channel will start in 2009. I also just read that select Cox systems will offer cable's InDemand MLB package in Hd, I'm wondering if Cox in Omaha is going to step up to the plate and add the Hd games starting next week?

MLB channel will start in 2009. I also just read that select Cox systems will offer cable's InDemand MLB package in Hd, I'm wondering if Cox in Omaha is going to step up to the plate and add the Hd games starting next week?

I knew that it's just on my wish list even thought it's not launched yet. Plus The MLB extra innings is not worth it since I like Kansas city and they are on FSNKC/MW.

Tv Guide online lists lists TravelHD,CinemaxHD, and Starz. I wonder what is taking so long for them to launch them?

EON 1GHZ upgrade it looks like my area isn't doing it yet or if it was done we didn't loose any services.

Does anyone know if Cox will be offering the 1st week of MLB Extra innings for free this year? Man I would love to have that so I could watch all my Red Sox games but it is EXPENSIVE!

Does anyone know if Cox will be offering the 1st week of MLB Extra innings for free this year? Man I would love to have that so I could watch all my Red Sox games but it is EXPENSIVE!

http://www.cox.com/Omaha/

yes

Wow $159 is a lot

Wow $159 is a lot

I agree its alot, if Cox Omaha carries the hd games I will subscribe with Cox otherwise I will order through MLB.tv its cheaper and all out of markets games are on.

I just got a new DCH-3416 in the mail today. After plugging it in, I see a few channels on the HD tier that are "Temporarily Off Air" that I don't remember seeing even last night on my DCT-6412.

740 - NFLHD
758 - AMCHD
816 - SCNHD (Science HD)
840 - M HD (Music HD)
895 - StarzHD

I'm not sure why I see them and if it is because of the box or if they appeared for everyone in my area today. Nonetheless, there is no content on them though the guide does know what should be on.

Now I guess I need to call Cox and get this box or my account reset so I can get my HBO and On Demand working...

What's this about getting a box in the mail? Can we buy our own box from someone and have COX authorize(?) it so I don't have to pay rentals? I'm so out of the loop on stuff.

What's this about getting a box in the mail? Can we buy our own box from someone and have COX authorize(?) it so I don't have to pay rentals? I'm so out of the loop on stuff.

No Cox Omaha was out so they sent him one by mail when they were back in stock.

What's this about getting a box in the mail? Can we buy our own box from someone and have COX authorize(?) it so I don't have to pay rentals? I'm so out of the loop on stuff.

If you really wanted to, buy a Tivo and get some cable cards from Cox. Depending on the Tivo box, you might be able to get a M-stream card, instead of two S-stream cards.

You pay a 'set-up' fee for the cable card installation, but the lease on cards is only $2/mth, compared to the $10/mth for the set-top box.

If you really wanted to, buy a Tivo and get some cable cards from Cox. Depending on the Tivo box, you might be able to get a M-stream card, instead of two S-stream cards.

You pay a 'set-up' fee for the cable card installation, but the lease on cards is only $2/mth, compared to the $10/mth for the set-top box.

last time I checked Omaha doesn't have Multistream cards plus he would loose 2way services. That and the cost of the box+service fee is why I am waiting for the Cox/Tivo.

How will the 1 Ghz upgrade affect existing digital (QAM) tuners? I imagine it will have to work to some degree (i.e. a certain number of channels will work but you need a Cox box to get the upper tiers)? I know I will need to get digital tuners for my analog sets and I will likely keep renting a Cox HDDVR for my main plasma TV but I would hate to lose the functionality of my HDHomerun digital tuner on my HTPC.

How will the 1 Ghz upgrade affect existing digital (QAM) tuners? I imagine it will have to work to some degree (i.e. a certain number of channels will work but you need a Cox box to get the upper tiers)? I know I will need to get digital tuners for my analog sets and I will likely keep renting a Cox HDDVR for my main plasma TV but I would hate to lose the functionality of my HDHomerun digital tuner on my HTPC.

right now there will be no video in any higher frequncy then there currently is. The current boxes don't have 1GHz tuners so even they would be unable to tune the higher frequncy.


after cox gets these http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail.jsp?globalObjectId=9066_8995_23 we might see some real changes

right now there will be no video in any higher frequncy then there currently is. The current boxes don't have 1GHz tuners so even they would be unable to tune the higher frequncy.

I guess what I'm really asking is, when Cox starts using 1Ghz will that be the only signal on the line (leaving all non-1Ghz equipment unusable with Cox service) or will there still be 'standard' QAM available on the same cable (if that's even possible)?

I guess what I'm really asking is, when Cox starts using 1Ghz will that be the only signal on the line (leaving all non-1Ghz equipment unusable with Cox service) or will there still be 'standard' QAM available on the same cable (if that's even possible)?

yes there will still be channels avalable. All the upgrade does is allow them to add more channels and faster internet.

If I interpret the channel mapping table here http://www.soontai.com/uscatvtb1.html correctly, 1GHz corresponds to ch 158. I believe most current tuners max out at ch 125 (800 MHz).

If I interpret the channel mapping table here http://www.soontai.com/uscatvtb1.html correctly, 1GHz corresponds to ch 158. I believe most current tuners max out at ch 125 (800 MHz).

you have to remember also cox uses the bandwidth for phone and internet. I expect they will move some stuff around when the whole city iis 1Ghz so we will see 75-100 Hd channels by years end.

InDemand website lists MLB Extra Innings schedule for March/April this schedule also lists some Hd games. Will Cox in Omaha show the Hd games? I hope Cox Omaha steps up to the plate and adds InDemand MLB hd games and FSN-hd, both have Hd games on tomorrow.

I expect they will move some stuff around when the whole city iis 1Ghz so we will see 75-100 Hd channels by years end.

Cox with 75 - 100 HD channels in 9 months??? Based on what?

EdL

Cox with 75 - 100 HD channels in 9 months??? Based on what?

EdL

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6470803

this and the email I mentioned earlier that said Omaha hopes to have 75 HD by the end of the year.

look at post #5926

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6470803

this and the email I mentioned earlier that said Omaha hopes to have 75 HD by the end of the year.

look at post #5926

With Cox's current rate of adding Hd, it will be 3 to 5 years before Cox has 75 Hd channels.

With Cox's current rate of adding Hd, it will be 3 to 5 years before Cox has 75 Hd channels.

They are doing the 1GHz upgrade so there should be room.
they didn't have room before.

Cox Omaha not showing all KCRoyays games on TV.

Cox Omaha not showing all KCRoyays games on TV.

http://www.kansas.com/243/story/359557.html

Cox won't televise 40 KC games
BY KIRK SEMINOFF
The Wichita Eagle

Forty of the 140 Kansas City Royals scheduled to be televised by Fox Sports Net Kansas City, including today's game in Detroit, won't be available on Cox Communications cable systems in Kansas and parts of Nebraska.

FSN Kansas City, Channel 34 on Cox, increased the number of televised games from last year to all but 22 of the Royals' games. Geoff Goldman, head of media relations for FSN Kansas City, said that the extra 40 games were offered to cable and satellite systems for an undisclosed amount in addition to the original 100-game contract.

All 140 games are scheduled to be televised by satellite providers DirecTV and Dish Network.

"FSN pays additional rights fees to the Royals to televise more games, and producing those games add further costs," Goldman said. "We work with our distributors to help defray the additional costs."

Cox spokesperson Sarah Kauffman said the cable provider's contract is for 100 games, and there have not been negotiations to add the 40.

Games that will be televised, but not on Cox, this month are today (at Detroit), Sunday (at Minnesota), April 9-10 (New York), April 12-13 (Minnesota), April 17 (at L.A. Angels), April 22 (Cleveland) and April 30 (at Texas).

http://www.kansas.com/243/story/359557.html

Cox won't televise 40 KC games
BY KIRK SEMINOFF
The Wichita Eagle

Forty of the 140 Kansas City Royals scheduled to be televised by Fox Sports Net Kansas City, including today's game in Detroit, won't be available on Cox Communications cable systems in Kansas and parts of Nebraska.

FSN Kansas City, Channel 34 on Cox, increased the number of televised games from last year to all but 22 of the Royals' games. Geoff Goldman, head of media relations for FSN Kansas City, said that the extra 40 games were offered to cable and satellite systems for an undisclosed amount in addition to the original 100-game contract.

All 140 games are scheduled to be televised by satellite providers DirecTV and Dish Network.

"FSN pays additional rights fees to the Royals to televise more games, and producing those games add further costs," Goldman said. "We work with our distributors to help defray the additional costs."

Cox spokesperson Sarah Kauffman said the cable provider's contract is for 100 games, and there have not been negotiations to add the 40.

Games that will be televised, but not on Cox, this month are today (at Detroit), Sunday (at Minnesota), April 9-10 (New York), April 12-13 (Minnesota), April 17 (at L.A. Angels), April 22 (Cleveland) and April 30 (at Texas).

the least they could do is not putting them in the guide as being on. Wish RSTN was still around.


There is a list now on www.cox.com/omaha

the least they could do is not putting them in the guide as being on. Wish RSTN was still around.


There is a list now on www.cox.com/omaha

I was going to get MLB Extra Innings thru Cox but since they are not adding the Hd games like some Cox systems and then I find out they are only showing some of the KC Royals games, and none of KC Royals in Hd I'm ordering the MLB TV baseball package. I really wish Cox Omaha would step up and add hd content now not in 6 months or a year, I tired of waiting.

I was going to get MLB Extra Innings thru Cox but since they are not adding the Hd games like some Cox systems and then I find out they are only showing some of the KC Royals games, and none of KC Royals in Hd I'm ordering the MLB TV baseball package. I really wish Cox Omaha would step up and add hd content now not in 6 months or a year, I tired of waiting.

Can you name a cox system that has MLB Extra Innings in HD? If you reread my earlier posts it said within 3 months the channels are comming.