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dline
04-04-08, 12:36 PM
Lincoln viewers may be interested in the following, which I first posted in the Des Moines thread:

The Upper Midwest broadcasting blog Northpine.com (http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/index.html) is reporting that WOI-DT has signed on to carry the Retro Television Network on a subchannel. Two of its sister stations, KLKN in Lincoln and WHBF in the Quad Cities, are also planning to carry the subchannel as part of a deal between the network and the Citadel Communications chain.

The press release from Equity Media Holdings, which owns RTN, is here (http://ir.emdaholdings.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=302847).

RTN is already on the air on KWWL in Waterloo-Cedar Rapids, Iowa as part of a deal with the Quincy Newspapers broadcast group. It currently carries programming until about midnight, and shows I've seen on the channel include Little House on the Prairie, The Nanny, Cannon, The Fugitive, Quincy M.E., 21 Jump Street, Get Smart, and others. (The network also airs on KTIV Sioux City as part of the same QNI deal.)

PAULSTORM
04-04-08, 03:48 PM
Dline, you beat me to my post..lol RTN sounds like a cool subchannel...luv the shows from that era.

For those of you in the Omaha market that have the Directv HD locals, does Directv include the subchannels like 42, 6, & 7 have in their lineup?

timdg
04-04-08, 09:56 PM
Anyone notice the Raymond reruns (5, 5:30p) on KPTM have been in HD the past couple weeks?
While this is kind of cool, this week they seem have to be setting a flag on the OTA broadcast prohibiting recording. I'm using Media Center and it says the broadcaster or originator does not allow the show to be recorded. If I'm reading stuff correctly, this flag is not even allowed to be set on OTA content. Anyone else notice this or have any issues?

ajwees41
04-05-08, 02:00 PM
Anyone notice the Raymond reruns (5, 5:30p) on KPTM have been in HD the past couple weeks?
While this is kind of cool, this week they seem have to be setting a flag on the OTA broadcast prohibiting recording. I'm using Media Center and it says the broadcaster or originator does not allow the show to be recorded. If I'm reading stuff correctly, this flag is not even allowed to be set on OTA content. Anyone else notice this or have any issues?

I haven't noticed, but I don't watch it. I will check and see if the cox dvr does the thing. it's the same on the cox dvr, so must be fox settng the flag

EdL
04-05-08, 07:04 PM
For those of you in the Omaha market that have the Directv HD locals, does Directv include the subchannels like 42, 6, & 7 have in their lineup?

DirecTV does not broadcast the sub-channels, but depending on the type of receiver you have you can connect an antenna and they will be incorporated into the channel guide.

EdL

ajwees41
04-06-08, 07:52 PM
Lincoln viewers may be interested in the following, which I first posted in the Des Moines thread:

The Upper Midwest broadcasting blog Northpine.com (http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/index.html) is reporting that WOI-DT has signed on to carry the Retro Television Network on a subchannel. Two of its sister stations, KLKN in Lincoln and WHBF in the Quad Cities, are also planning to carry the subchannel as part of a deal between the network and the Citadel Communications chain.

The press release from Equity Media Holdings, which owns RTN, is here (http://ir.emdaholdings.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=302847).

RTN is already on the air on KWWL in Waterloo-Cedar Rapids, Iowa as part of a deal with the Quincy Newspapers broadcast group. It currently carries programming until about midnight, and shows I've seen on the channel include Little House on the Prairie, The Nanny, Cannon, The Fugitive, Quincy M.E., 21 Jump Street, Get Smart, and others. (The network also airs on KTIV Sioux City as part of the same QNI deal.)

doesn't sound like they will be around much longer.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6547530.html

PAULSTORM
04-07-08, 10:10 AM
DirecTV does not broadcast the sub-channels, but depending on the type of receiver you have you can connect an antenna and they will be incorporated into the channel guide.

EdL


Thanks for the info Ed.

I was hoping they would include the subchannels. Here in Central Neb we're out of KLKN-DT's signal range.

nitty316
04-07-08, 01:12 PM
I am finally making the switch. Cox's squabbles on getting the Royals on here in Omaha was the final straw. I started looking more at DIRECT this weekend and decided enough was enough. That and Cox said they had no idea if or when they would have FSNHD or USAHD or SCIFIHD etc. I just decided, for what I want, I am not going to ever be pleased with Cox, so why continue worrying about it. If I spend a little more with DTV, that's okay, I'm getting what I want. I have never seen the Royals in HD, that's insane and will soon change. The only HD channel I am losing is NETHD, but I can get that OTA, and they really don't show all that much in HD anyway. I had always stayed with Cox because I thought it was cheaper, but it really isn't. I'm hoping to get my install scheduled today. I'm excited.

I also normally get the baseball package, and when I saw that Direct gets a handful of those games in HD as well, it really became a no brainer. I usually spend $20 a Sunday in the Fall going out to watch the 20x17 = $340. I can now order the NFL at my house and not worry about smelling like smoke when I get home. I haven't been at home during the day on a Sunday during the Fall for 4 years.

dline
04-07-08, 04:50 PM
doesn't sound like they will be around much longer.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6547530.htmlGood find ... obviously I hope they're able to stick around now that I get it, but as the article said there are several ways they can get out of trouble. Pairing with established outfits such as the Citadel and Quincy groups sounds like a pretty solid way to expand an SD network, especially as more viewers get DT receivers. Being the eighth station in an eight-station market, as our RTN used to be, is a lot easier when you can legally partner with number two, use its transmitter and staff, and sell local ads with its established salespeople, rather than building a new station from scratch or hoping someone will build one as The WB and UPN had to do.

Then again, The Tube Music Network went in the same direction and went under. But the viewers didn't have 2-17-09 breathing as closely down their necks when The Tube got started as they do now.

Ronald L M
04-07-08, 05:03 PM
I am finally making the switch. Cox's squabbles on getting the Royals on here in Omaha was the final straw. I started looking more at DIRECT this weekend and decided enough was enough. That and Cox said they had no idea if or when they would have FSNHD or USAHD or SCIFIHD etc. I just decided, for what I want, I am not going to ever be pleased with Cox, so why continue worrying about it. If I spend a little more with DTV, that's okay, I'm getting what I want. I have never seen the Royals in HD, that's insane and will soon change. The only HD channel I am losing is NETHD, but I can get that OTA, and they really don't show all that much in HD anyway. I had always stayed with Cox because I thought it was cheaper, but it really isn't. I'm hoping to get my install scheduled today. I'm excited.

I also normally get the baseball package, and when I saw that Direct gets a handful of those games in HD as well, it really became a no brainer. I usually spend $20 a Sunday in the Fall going out to watch the 20x17 = $340. I can now order the NFL at my house and not worry about smelling like smoke when I get home. I haven't been at home during the day on a Sunday during the Fall for 4 years.

I agree with you about never being pleased with Cox, due to slow additions of sd programming and hd programming. I'm really close to dumping Cox also.

johninc
04-07-08, 05:08 PM
I am finally making the switch. Cox's squabbles on getting the Royals on here in Omaha was the final straw. I started looking more at DIRECT this weekend and decided enough was enough. That and Cox said they had no idea if or when they would have FSNHD or USAHD or SCIFIHD etc. I just decided, for what I want, I am not going to ever be pleased with Cox, so why continue worrying about it. If I spend a little more with DTV, that's okay, I'm getting what I want. I have never seen the Royals in HD, that's insane and will soon change. The only HD channel I am losing is NETHD, but I can get that OTA, and they really don't show all that much in HD anyway. I had always stayed with Cox because I thought it was cheaper, but it really isn't. I'm hoping to get my install scheduled today. I'm excited.

I also normally get the baseball package, and when I saw that Direct gets a handful of those games in HD as well, it really became a no brainer. I usually spend $20 a Sunday in the Fall going out to watch the 20x17 = $340. I can now order the NFL at my house and not worry about smelling like smoke when I get home. I haven't been at home during the day on a Sunday during the Fall for 4 years.

I'm starting to lean that way too. Remember INHD, which would have a few HD MLB games every week? Gone. And now there is so much more out there, and Cox customers are getting almost none of it. I gave them two years to get competitive, but they've fallen so far behind it's ridiculous.

I think you have to buy the Super Fan package to get the MLB HD games, but that would be worth it. Let us know how you like the change.

--
inc

ScottChez
04-07-08, 09:53 PM
Anyone else getting KMTV HDTV signal break up on tonights final NCAA game? I am over the air watching channel 3-1.

I see the break up mostly in the middle of the screen not the whole screen which makes me wonder if its my box or the national feed at the studio.

My signal strength is averaging about 70 which is about normal for me.

Brad Smith
04-07-08, 10:01 PM
I'm getting the occasional audio drop-out on the KMTV signal, though no picture break up. My signal is around 78-82 depending on the weather conditions.

ScottChez
04-08-08, 12:02 AM
The picture and sound was perfect for me the 2nd half. Thank you KMTV if you fixed it.

Its was a good game to watch in HD. High quality picture.

EdL
04-08-08, 08:50 PM
I am finally making the switch. Cox's squabbles on getting the Royals on here in Omaha was the final straw. I started looking more at DIRECT this weekend and decided enough was enough. That and Cox said they had no idea if or when they would have FSNHD or USAHD or SCIFIHD etc. I just decided, for what I want, I am not going to ever be pleased with Cox, so why continue worrying about it. If I spend a little more with DTV, that's okay, I'm getting what I want. I have never seen the Royals in HD, that's insane and will soon change. The only HD channel I am losing is NETHD, but I can get that OTA, and they really don't show all that much in HD anyway. I had always stayed with Cox because I thought it was cheaper, but it really isn't. I'm hoping to get my install scheduled today. I'm excited.

I also normally get the baseball package, and when I saw that Direct gets a handful of those games in HD as well, it really became a no brainer. I usually spend $20 a Sunday in the Fall going out to watch the 20x17 = $340. I can now order the NFL at my house and not worry about smelling like smoke when I get home. I haven't been at home during the day on a Sunday during the Fall for 4 years.

Welcome to the club, I pulled the cable last August just in time for the NFL season & I haven't regretted it one bit.

EdL

PS - I never thought I'd watch NFLHD outside of the season, but it's in HD so I do drop by occasionally and linger.

RexxRacerX
04-11-08, 04:24 PM
I am finally making the switch. Cox's squabbles on getting the Royals on here in Omaha was the final straw. I started looking more at DIRECT this weekend and decided enough was enough. That and Cox said they had no idea if or when they would have FSNHD or USAHD or SCIFIHD etc. I just decided, for what I want, I am not going to ever be pleased with Cox, so why continue worrying about it. If I spend a little more with DTV, that's okay, I'm getting what I want. I have never seen the Royals in HD, that's insane and will soon change. The only HD channel I am losing is NETHD, but I can get that OTA, and they really don't show all that much in HD anyway. I had always stayed with Cox because I thought it was cheaper, but it really isn't. I'm hoping to get my install scheduled today. I'm excited.

I also normally get the baseball package, and when I saw that Direct gets a handful of those games in HD as well, it really became a no brainer. I usually spend $20 a Sunday in the Fall going out to watch the 20x17 = $340. I can now order the NFL at my house and not worry about smelling like smoke when I get home. I haven't been at home during the day on a Sunday during the Fall for 4 years.

Welcome to the dark side!

I made the same switch for our household last Oct, and I am truly happy with my experience with DirecTV. I''m not much of a baseball fan, but I do their center ice and nascar packages and love them both. Hook your HD DVR up to ethernet if you have it, you'll love playing music and pictures on your TV, along with the massive On Demand offerings. I don't really miss having the PBS subchannels or HD feeds for them, check out smithsonian and all of the other "science/history" channels and you'll be blown away.

DirecTV is still rolling out HD as we speak too, just a week ago we got a couple new channels in the kids channels that I noticed. I think they are outpacing Cable in their rollout even with the exposure/footprint/lead they currently have.

ajwees41
04-11-08, 07:11 PM
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ajwees41
04-11-08, 07:21 PM
I tried to post a link to a online petition but it's not showing up.


http://www.**************.com/kc7r/petition.html

replace tthe stars with petition online

Cornhustler
04-11-08, 10:57 PM
Just a heads up for those of you expecting to receive HD locals from DirecTV in the near future as a part of the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney DMA (designated market area) rollout. As previously mentioned in this thread you will only receive KLKN ABC and KOLN CBS in high definition. All other affiliates (KHAS NBC - Hastings, KTVG FOX – Grand Island, KSNB FOX - Superior, KHGI ABC - Kearney and KUON PBS - Lincoln) are still presently only making available a standard definition signal to DirecTV. NET has an HD signal available OTA and although negotiations are ongoing it is not yet available on DirecTV. DirecTV provides subchannels MyNetworkTV and the CW in SD but I’m not sure about DISH. Unlike the Time Warner cable agreement, satellite companies are not allowed to distribute the Omaha locals (3,6,7,15,42) so you are stuck with the stations I mentioned above. If you’re not sure which DMA you’re in please refer to the maps I have attached. The second map shows an approximate 60 mile broadcast radius from Crown Point in Omaha so if you live in or near the circle you should be able to receive Omaha signals over-the-air. The only way to receive NBC & Fox in HD would be to erect an antenna if you are within 60 – 70 miles of the transmitters in Omaha. Otherwise you are out of luck unless you “move” to another address within the Omaha DMA.

The reason I want to make as many people aware of this is to put pressure on these station owners and managers to upgrade their facilities so we can enjoy our televisions the way we thought we would when we bought them. We are the people who support their advertisers and our voices need to be heard. KHAS is owned by Hoak Media, KTVG is owned by Hill Broadcasting Company but is managed by Pappas under a local marketing agreement. KSNB is owned by Collins Broadcasting but is managed by Pappas as well. KHGI is owned and operated by Pappas. The general manager for KHGI is also the general manager for Fox 4 & 17. I have provided contact information for the NBC and Fox affiliates in the L/H/K DMA for your convenience. If you want your locals in HD please contact these stations and let them know how you feel.

KHAS

From wikipedia

Recently, KHAS-TV has begun promoting itself as a full-market NBC station, challenging the long-standing status of Omaha's WOWT-TV as the default NBC affiliate in the capital. It has begun identifying as "Hastings/Kearney/Grand Island/Lincoln" on-air and on its Website. It is also available on the Lincoln DirecTV and Dish Network feeds as the local NBC station, boosting its potential audience to 277,000 people across Nebraska and Kansas.

http://www.hoakmedia.com/ (http://www.hoakmedia.com/)

Hoak Media Corporation
500 Crescent Court, Suite 220
Dallas, Texas 75201
Phone: 972-960-4848
Fax: 972-960-4899

http://www.khastv.com/ (http://www.khastv.com/)

Hoak Media of Nebraska LLC
KHAS-TV
P.O. Box 578
Hastings, NE 68901

Fox 4 & 17

From wikipedia

Pappas operates the Fox stations under local marketing agreements.

http://www.fox417.tv/

KHGI

http://www.nebraska.tv/

Vincent F. Barresi
General Manager
P.O. Box 220
Kearney, NE 68848
Phone: 308-743-2494 ext. 101
Fax: 308-743-2155

http://www.pappastv.com/

Pappas Telecasting Companies
500 S. Chinowth Road
Visalia, CA 93277
Phone: (559) 733-7800
Fax: (559) 733-7878

ryane75
04-12-08, 08:44 AM
Cornhustler





Do you know what the expected date is for the Directv HD locals for the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney DMA ?

PAULSTORM
04-12-08, 10:29 AM
Cornhustler





Do you know what the expected date is for the Directv HD locals for the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney DMA ?


Early May ryane: http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/07/directv-continues-to-gift-towns-with-hd-locals/

Also, KHAS is making preps to go HD by the time of the Olympics per NBC pressure.

Cornhustler
04-12-08, 10:36 AM
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/07/directv-continues-to-gift-towns-with-hd-locals/

Looks like you just beat me to it.

Paul, have you talked to anyone from Pappas as far as Fox and ABC going HD?

PAULSTORM
04-12-08, 11:39 AM
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/07/directv-continues-to-gift-towns-with-hd-locals/

Looks like you just beat me to it.

Paul, have you talked to anyone from Pappas as far as Fox and ABC going HD?

The GM, on the Good Life program that runs 9-10 am, has hinted at fall.

JoelWNelson
04-13-08, 08:01 PM
Anyone tried the new all-HD package from Dish Network ($29.99 for a standalone package)?
(info: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/index3.shtml)

Considering subscribing to it, but am preparing a move to an apartment and know that satellite is an issue with many landlords. Any tips for being able to get Dish service in an apartment complex?

I'm also not familiar with the Voom networks that make up a significant part of the package -- for those familiar with it, what are the Voom channels like?

Either way, if I can get it in an apartment, it looks like a pretty good value. DirecTV doesn't seem to have a HD standalone package, and Cox doesn't seem to currently have as many channels in HD.

PAULSTORM
04-14-08, 10:05 AM
Anyone tried the new all-HD package from Dish Network ($29.99 for a standalone package)?
(info: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/index3.shtml)

Considering subscribing to it, but am preparing a move to an apartment and know that satellite is an issue with many landlords. Any tips for being able to get Dish service in an apartment complex?

I'm also not familiar with the Voom networks that make up a significant part of the package -- for those familiar with it, what are the Voom channels like?

Either way, if I can get it in an apartment, it looks like a pretty good value. DirecTV doesn't seem to have a HD standalone package, and Cox doesn't seem to currently have as many channels in HD.


Former Dish HD subscriber speaking here....I was not impressed w/ Voom channels..lot of junk programs...it's how Dish inflates the # of HD channels they have. If you want more mainstream HD channels, do what I did. Switch to Directv. The locals in HD would be another plus. Something Dish has not done for Omaha mrkt yet (as far as I know) or plans to for the Lincoln-Central Nebr market like Directv will do in May.

JoelWNelson
04-14-08, 11:27 AM
Former Dish HD subscriber speaking here....I was not impressed w/ Voom channels..lot of junk programs...it's how Dish inflates the # of HD channels they have. If you want more mainstream HD channels, do what I did. Switch to Directv. The locals in HD would be another plus. Something Dish has not done for Omaha mrkt yet (as far as I know) or plans to for the Lincoln-Central Nebr market like Directv will do in May.

Does DirecTV offer an all-HD package? I didn't see one on their site; looked like the only option was a $10 add-on to an existing package.

PAULSTORM
04-14-08, 11:53 AM
Does DirecTV offer an all-HD package? I didn't see one on their site; looked like the only option was a $10 add-on to an existing package.


$10 is pretty much it...depending on the pkg you get, it can be part of the pkg.

HuskerMike
04-14-08, 01:43 PM
Does DirecTV offer an all-HD package? I didn't see one on their site; looked like the only option was a $10 add-on to an existing package.
Looking at the Dish site, it looks like DishHD is merely a $10 or $20 add-on to an existing package as well. Unfortunately, they make you buy a DVR as well.

nitty316
04-14-08, 04:01 PM
Tomorrow's Nebraska-Wichita State game is on MyNetworkTV. When I go to their site it says our MyNetworkTV station is Fox 42, but when I called Fox 42 they said it was some channel like 24 or something like that. Does anyone know where to find it? Does Directv have it? I'd like to get this channel figured out, because I can't find it and Smackdown will be on it this fall.

Also, ESPNUHD will be launched on August 28th.

PAULSTORM
04-14-08, 04:35 PM
Tomorrow's Nebraska-Wichita State game is on MyNetworkTV. When I go to their site it says our MyNetworkTV station is Fox 42, but when I called Fox 42 they said it was some channel like 24 or something like that. Does anyone know where to find it? Does Directv have it? I'd like to get this channel figured out, because I can't find it and Smackdown will be on it this fall.

Also, ESPNUHD will be launched on August 28th.


In Omaha, it will most likely be seen on WOWT's subchannel 6.2 or aka 6-2-0 or something like that.

In Lincoln & Cental Neb, it's on KOLN/KGIN's subchannel which is aka My Network

ajwees41
04-14-08, 04:48 PM
[QUOTE=nitty316;13638490]Tomorrow's Nebraska-Wichita State game is on MyNetworkTV. When I go to their site it says our MyNetworkTV station is Fox 42, but when I called Fox 42 they said it was some channel like 24 or something like that. Does anyone know where to find it? Does Directv have it? I'd like to get this channel figured out, because I can't find it and Smackdown will be on it this fall.


it's on kptm sub channel. or on cox 121. whatever kptm's sub channel is over the air. the game is not listed in the cox on screen guide.

JoelWNelson
04-15-08, 12:00 PM
In Omaha, it will most likely be seen on WOWT's subchannel 6.2 or aka 6-2-0 or something like that.

In Lincoln & Cental Neb, it's on KOLN/KGIN's subchannel which is aka My Network

In Omaha MyNetworkTV is on 42-2 digital and 24 analog. However, if the game isn't actually being distributed by MyNetworkTV, then it will not necessarily be carried on all My affiliates. Local events carried on KOLN/KGIN's MyTV 10-2/11-2 are often also carried on WOWT's independent 6-2 due to both channels being owned by Gray Television.

Huskers.com indicates the game will not be carried in Omaha. However, the Omaha World-Herald states that the game will be on Cox 120, which is 6-2. The TV listing on WOWT's web page does not have any mention of the game being carried tonight on 62O.

JoelWNelson
04-15-08, 12:01 PM
Looking at the Dish site, it looks like DishHD is merely a $10 or $20 add-on to an existing package as well. Unfortunately, they make you buy a DVR as well.

It's also standalone:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/index3.shtml

A Dish rep I communicated with via e-mail said it can be purchased standalone and a DVR is not required; just a HD-compatible Dish receiver.

nitty316
04-15-08, 08:34 PM
Curious as to what you guys recommend as the best place to have an antenna? I'm trying to pick up local HD channels and can't get NET to tune, I'd like to watch the Creighton game tonight but no dice so far. Also, some of you guys can get Lincoln channels, I live on 168th and Q, do I live close enough to get those? I have to think my problems is where I have my antenna. Any help would be great. Thanks.

Cornhustler
04-15-08, 09:48 PM
Curious as to what you guys recommend as the best place to have an antenna? I'm trying to pick up local HD channels and can't get NET to tune, I'd like to watch the Creighton game tonight but no dice so far. Also, some of you guys can get Lincoln channels, I live on 168th and Q, do I live close enough to get those? I have to think my problems is where I have my antenna. Any help would be great. Thanks.

I posted this map awhile back. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=77695&d=1173970827

Use it to locate the local transmitters around Lincoln and Omaha.

You are 59 miles from KOLN -10 and 63 miles from KLKN - 8 so if you get your antenna up high enough to see the horizon you should be able to get them.

By the way the Creighton games looks great even though they are behind 5-2.

nitty316
04-15-08, 10:08 PM
Disregard my rant on KPTM, it was Huskers.com's fault not KPTM.

johnwcookjr
04-15-08, 10:11 PM
Nitty

If you can see 3, 6 and 7 you should be able to pick up NETV 26 without any problems.

Picking up Lincoln channels with an omni antenna may be a bit of a stretch but with proper placement and amplification Lincoln shouldn't be much of a problem for you. I pick up KOLN using a mast mounted Yagi in my attic from Papillion.

Go to antennaweb.org click on select an antenna, enter your address and it'll give you the look angles to point your antenna...then select "view street level map"

You'll need to point your antenna south east of Crowne Point to pick up 17.1 (NETV ch 26.)

Hope this helps.

Regards, John

grant0830
04-17-08, 10:19 AM
Hello, I just moved off cox cable (I still have cable internet) to a Mac Mini HTP with a EyeTV Hybrid w/ Clear QAM. My question is when I hook up the EyeTV Hybrid Tuner to the Cable it does not pick up any Clear QAM channels, nor did it while I still had cox cable. Is there something that I am not seeing here or is the EyeTV unable to get the Clear QAM channels over the cable connection?

Thank you

angryht
04-17-08, 01:31 PM
They are definately out there (around channels 107.1 & .2, 105.1, 108.1, 108.2). Are you sure your tuners are set to receive a digital signal? For my tv, I had to let it scan for about 10 minutes. It found about 200 channels but many were not broadcasting anything.

ajwees41
04-17-08, 03:24 PM
Hello, I just moved off cox cable (I still have cable internet) to a Mac Mini HTP with a EyeTV Hybrid w/ Clear QAM. My question is when I hook up the EyeTV Hybrid Tuner to the Cable it does not pick up any Clear QAM channels, nor did it while I still had cox cable. Is there something that I am not seeing here or is the EyeTV unable to get the Clear QAM channels over the cable connection?

Thank you


have you tried this?


http://faq.elgato.com/index.php/faq/more/639/

JoelWNelson
04-18-08, 01:05 PM
have you tried this?


http://faq.elgato.com/index.php/faq/more/639/

I have the same setup (except a MacBook rather than a Mac Mini) and don't get any QAM channels either, even though I have Cox High-Speed Internet. I also tried with a regular HDTV and no clear QAM there either.

Someone told me that I had to either have digital cable or else have someone on the same node subscribing to digital cable, though I didn't think it was supposed to be that way so I hope that was misinformation.

Gary Omaha
04-18-08, 02:43 PM
I subscribe to Cox digital and have a DVR box connected to one input of my HDTV, but when I scan the direct cable input to the TV, it gets all analog okay but doesn't find many digital channels and never finds any local broadcast channels. (Yeah, it may seem redundant to scan for signals when there's a box connected to another input of the TV, but I like having a number of options, especially when the DVR is all tied up recording two things.)

nebugeater
04-19-08, 08:42 AM
IF you are a DISH network user it looks like the Omaha market will have the locals available in HD in June. I understand that not everything Dish posts happens as planned but at least it is announced. This is a recent addition to their web site at least as far as I have seen and I have been watching some.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml

This page will show you a list of the planned HD locals for April, May, and June comming to Dish.

PAULSTORM
04-19-08, 09:46 AM
IF you are a DISH network user it looks like the Omaha market will have the locals available in HD in June. I understand that not everything Dish posts happens as planned but at least it is announced. This is a recent addition to their web site at least as far as I have seen and I have been watching some.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml

This page will show you a list of the planned HD locals for April, May, and June comming to Dish.

Good info nebugeater!

Boy, if you were pondering whether you should go with Dish or Directv, this would clear up my decision since Directv already has HD locals into Omaha and will in early May for the Lincoln-Tri Cities market. I'm glad I pulled the plug on Dish and went Directv.

Stando97
04-20-08, 01:05 PM
Just fired up my Dish this morning and noticed that I now have USA and SCIFI in HD. It's about time Dish Network !! Seems like they are always two steps behind DirecTV and I've thought about switching to DirecTV when my contract is up, but with these recent additions, I might just stay. Only thing left for me is my locals in HD here in Lincoln. After that, I'll be a happy Dish subscriber.

ajwees41
04-21-08, 02:02 PM
anyone know when cox will add the HD channels they have been testing?

EdL
04-22-08, 06:49 PM
anyone know when cox will add the HD channels they have been testing?

2009:D

EdL

ajwees41
04-24-08, 05:06 AM
2009:D

EdL

your probably right I just got an email that says until the 1Ghz upgrade is done no new hd.

Iguana
04-24-08, 10:21 AM
IF you are a DISH network user it looks like the Omaha market will have the locals available in HD in June. I understand that not everything Dish posts happens as planned but at least it is announced. This is a recent addition to their web site at least as far as I have seen and I have been watching some.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml

This page will show you a list of the planned HD locals for April, May, and June comming to Dish.

Would I be correct in assuming that Lincoln isnt included in the Omaha time frame?

PAULSTORM
04-24-08, 10:47 AM
Would I be correct in assuming that Lincoln isnt included in the Omaha time frame?


Your assumption is correct Iguana..

Directv, though, is expected to roll out the HD locals for the Lincoln mrkt early next month...they have had the Omaha HD locals for a few months already. I was a Dish subscriber and now glad I went Directv.

RLM5150
04-24-08, 11:13 AM
your probably right I just got an email that says until the 1Ghz upgrade is done no new hd.

That's frustrating to hear.

How is that going to work? I thought our current boxes only go up to 750-800 MHz or so. (not sure of the exact limit, going off memory here) Is there that much bandwidth in the lower region for high-speed internet that can be moved to the higher region? How high can the cable modems tune? What else can they shift to the higher regions before we end up being required to get a new cable box/DVR?

PAULSTORM
04-25-08, 11:44 AM
Here's an idea to get all the locals in HD:

You have to call DirecTV and tell them that you have moved. You then
give them your new "Address", which happens to be in a town that gets
Hi-Def locals like ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, PBS, etc.

If you set up automatic bill pay, and paperless statements, they won't
ever even have to mail anything to your "new" address.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13727018#post13727018

KSBugeater
04-25-08, 01:43 PM
Building on PAULSTORM's suggestion: Or "move" to a zip code in Nebraska that is out of range of any digital towers. Check here: http://directvdnseligibility.decisionmark.com/app/addressform.aspx

If you are out of range (by their model) DIRECTV will provide you with New York network affiliates for NBC, CBS, ABC, or Fox.

Simply choosing Chicago or Kansas City or Denver or even Omaha, etc., may not work for you because you have to be in that city's spot beam, roughly the size of their broadcast viewing area.

KSBugeater
04-25-08, 01:49 PM
Back to the topic of DIRECTV providing Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney HD locals, if the DIRECTV local receive facility is physically located at the KHAS campus in Hastings, isn't it possible that KHAS could provide D* the NBC HD feed directly, even though they are not transmitting HD yet? In Topeka, both the local ABC and Fox stations provided the local cable co (Cox) with HD feeds before either started broadcasting HD OTA.

I'm also curious how well the digital signal for KLKN will come in at Hastings.

ajwees41
04-25-08, 02:14 PM
That's frustrating to hear.

How is that going to work? I thought our current boxes only go up to 750-800 MHz or so. (not sure of the exact limit, going off memory here) Is there that much bandwidth in the lower region for high-speed internet that can be moved to the higher region? How high can the cable modems tune? What else can they shift to the higher regions before we end up being required to get a new cable box/DVR?



you are correct the way I think they are doing it is when the upgrade is done th phone and HSI will move to frequncies that tv can't tune until motorola has a 1GHZ tuner. They have one that's just in production.

PAULSTORM
04-25-08, 02:48 PM
Back to the topic of DIRECTV providing Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney HD locals, if the DIRECTV local receive facility is physically located at the KHAS campus in Hastings, isn't it possible that KHAS could provide D* the NBC HD feed directly, even though they are not transmitting HD yet? In Topeka, both the local ABC and Fox stations provided the local cable co (Cox) with HD feeds before either started broadcasting HD OTA.

I'm also curious how well the digital signal for KLKN will come in at Hastings.

I had not heard that KHAS will be the receive facility...not doubting ya...where'd you hear that?

I'm guessing you maybe right on KHAS providing Direct w/ a "direct" HD feed...they do have preps underway to go HD by August for the Olympics..they may very well have the equipment in place for an HD feed already...just need to do the transmitter upgrade.

You bring up a good point on KLKN's hi-def signal's reliability into Hastings...is there anybody in GI or Hastings that can pick up KLKN's hi def signal? I know in Krny, the wx has to be just right to pick it up. Maybe they're putting up an antenna high up on KHAS's tower to receive the signal.

It's kind of mind boggling, how much these stations are having to pay to upgrade their transmitters when you consider that only 14% of the TV households get their TV signal soley over the air. The rest now get it from cable or satellite. If these stations could just directly feed their signal to the cable and satellite co's, they could save a wad of serious cash. The idea of terrestrial broadcasting is quickly becoming a dinosaur concept.

KSBugeater
04-25-08, 03:33 PM
I had not heard that KHAS will be the receive facility...not doubting ya...where'd you hear that?


DIRECTV LRF list here:
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P1400108

According to the DNS eligibility site, if you put in the KHAS address, you get a "Grade B" signal for KLKN there. Granted, up on the KHAS tower you will get better signal than a homeowner with an antenna on a mini-tower. It could be possible that D* will have TWO LRF's for the area... one around Seward and the current one in Hastings.

Cornhustler
04-25-08, 03:46 PM
KHAS is 59 miles from KLKN's transmitter so with the flat topography and rise in elevation from east to west they should have no problem receiving it.

The map is from TV Fool (Google Earth) (http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=41).

JoelWNelson
04-26-08, 10:25 AM
Just out of curiosity, how does DirecTV get KCWL on their system from the Hastings receive facility? Last I knew it wasn't available OTA in the Tri-Cities.

Also is there info available on where the Dish receive facilities are?

wildjays
04-28-08, 09:10 PM
OK. I am watching My Name is Earl from Thursday that I recorded on the DVR. Now I know weather might be important to people, but man Channel 6 WOWT needs to change something. My HD has been changed to SD so there is a good quarter of the screen gone and then with the weather graphics, that is about a 1/3 of the screen at the bottom with the graphics even protruding over the video so by the time everything is said and done, about half or more of the viewable area is gone. If it wasn't that I had a 52 inch screen I would be watching this show in a little tiny window. I'd be better off watching Earl on NBC.com. This is horrible! I hope this changes in the future.

At least KMTV will give us HD on the HD channel and then run the weather graphics during commercials and if I really want to see the weather stuff, I'll change it to the non-HD version of the channel.

WOWT needs to get it together soon. These weather graphics are ridiculous.

PAULSTORM
04-29-08, 10:19 AM
OK. I am watching My Name is Earl from Thursday that I recorded on the DVR. Now I know weather might be important to people, but man Channel 6 WOWT needs to change something. My HD has been changed to SD so there is a good quarter of the screen gone and then with the weather graphics, that is about a 1/3 of the screen at the bottom with the graphics even protruding over the video so by the time everything is said and done, about half or more of the viewable area is gone. If it wasn't that I had a 52 inch screen I would be watching this show in a little tiny window. I'd be better off watching Earl on NBC.com. This is horrible! I hope this changes in the future.

At least KMTV will give us HD on the HD channel and then run the weather graphics during commercials and if I really want to see the weather stuff, I'll change it to the non-HD version of the channel.

WOWT needs to get it together soon. These weather graphics are ridiculous.


I'm surprised WOWT doesn't have an HD version for their wx warning graphics. Their sister station that's also owned by Gray Communications, Ch 11, in Grand Island does. Whenever there are storm warnings, they're able
to put the map on top of the HD programming instead of dumbing it down to SD to display the graphic.

Gary Omaha
05-02-08, 07:10 PM
Results of a 2007 JD Power & Associates Customer Satisfaction Survey for cable and satellite TV providers for this region of the country. Out of a possible score of 1,000:
DIRECTV: 675
COX: 650
DISH NETWORK: 645
AVERAGE: 635
CABLE ONE: 632
COMCAST: 619
CHARTER: 588
MEDIACOM: 576
TIME WARNER: 557

depechsker
05-03-08, 06:30 PM
In response to PAULSTORM, I live in south GI, have CM4228 antenna with preamp in second story attic. I get KLKN (and KOLN) very well, with only rare dropout (usually in afternoon). Have other friends in GI without my success.

Cornhustler
05-03-08, 07:02 PM
During warm weather I can get KOLN DT (105 miles) very well at night in Kearney. It helps that there is about a 600-650 foot rise in elevation between the transmitter and Kearney. It must lessen the effect of the curvature of the earth.

However I have real trouble receiving KLKN DT (96 miles). I'm pretty sure it's due to the adjacent channel interference caused by KGIN DT broadcasting on channel 32. When KLKN DT switches from channel 31 back to channel 8 after next February's switchover maybe that problem will be eliminated.

PAULSTORM
05-03-08, 07:33 PM
Well, it's now "early May", has anyone heard any official word from Directv as to what exact date they'll be rolling out the HD locals for the Lincoln/Central Nebr market?

Stando97
05-04-08, 06:04 PM
Well, it's now "early May", has anyone heard any official word from Directv as to what exact date they'll be rolling out the HD locals for the Lincoln/Central Nebr market?

Also, any have word for Dish Network and HD Locals as well? At least give us the stations that they can broadcast? I'm in Lincoln.

PAULSTORM
05-04-08, 07:02 PM
Also, any have word for Dish Network and HD Locals as well? At least give us the stations that they can broadcast? I'm in Lincoln.

Dish is pretty far behind Directv as far as HD locals in Nebr. While Directv added HD locals for the Omaha mrkt in Febr '08, Dish won't have them for the Omaha mrkt until next month: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml

Directv is supposed to roll out the HD locals for the Lincoln & Central Nebr mrkt early this month...Dish has not given any timetable for HD locals in Lincoln/Central Nebr.

FYI, Omaha and Lincoln are two different markets.

KSBugeater
05-07-08, 10:36 AM
Any more word on HD Locals for Lincoln on DIRECTV?

Cornhustler
05-07-08, 10:45 AM
I've heard rumors that it could be mid-July or even as late as August. Remember not everything published at tvpredictions.com comes true. I hope it is sooner than later but it will get here when it gets here.

seward sker
05-07-08, 12:46 PM
I've heard rumors that it could be mid-July or even as late as August. Remember not everything published at tvpredictions.com comes true. I hope it is sooner than later but it will get here when it gets here.

Wow, that would be very dissapointing.

Cornhustler
05-10-08, 05:50 PM
http://www.nebraska.tv/Global/story.asp?S=8304809

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

PAPPAS TELECASTING ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT CERTAIN AFFILIATES HAVE FILED FOR CHAPTER 11 PROTECTION



Visalia, California (May 10, 2008) - - Pappas Telecasting Companies announced today that certain of its direct and indirect affiliates have filed for Chapter 11 protection in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware. This regrettable action became necessary when good faith efforts to resolve outstanding financing issues broke down between the Pappas Telecasting affiliates and their more than eleven separate mostly non-bank lenders. This filing affects only affiliates that are part of the mostly non-bank lending group and not any of the remaining affiliates.

A major element in the decision to take this action was the current extremely difficult state of the financial markets in the U.S. which limit the opportunity for many businesses to obtain new or replacement financing.

Many of the television stations' ratings and revenue performance have remained strong. In fact, the majority of Pappas Telecasting stations have outperformed industry averages in ratings growth and revenue growth in 2008. Under Chapter 11 protection, business operations will continue as normal. More importantly, the service to our viewers by the stations filing for Chapter 11 protection will not be affected.

The stations which have filed for Chapter 11 protection are:

1. KMPH-TV, Fox, Fresno-Visalia, California

2. KFRE-TV, CW, Fresno-Visalia, California

3. KPTM-TV, Fox, Omaha, Nebraska

4. KXVO-TV, CW, Omaha, Nebraska

5. WCWG-TV, CW, Greensboro / Winston-Salem / Highpoint, North Carolina

6. KPTH-TV, Fox, Sioux City, Iowa

7. KMEG-TV, CBS, Sioux City, Iowa

8. KTNC-TV, TuVisión, San Francisco / Oakland / San Jose, California

9. KAZH-TV, TuVisión, Houston, Texas

10. KDBC-TV, CBS, El Paso, Texas

11. KREN-TV, CW, Reno, Nevada

12. KAZR-TV, TuVisión, Reno, Nevada

13. KCWK-TV, CW, Yakima / Pasco / Richland / Kennewick, Washington

The Pappas Group operates another seventeen (17) television stations and two (2) radio stations through entities that are not involved in the chapter 11 cases.

"The employees of Pappas Telecasting are commended for their fine performance, as they are the backbone of the company and its heart and soul," said Harry J. Pappas, the group's founder and chairman. Mr. Pappas added, "Though it was a very difficult

decision, the Pappas entities included in the filing were compelled to do so as the conflicts with the mostly non-bank lenders allowed no other sensible option. We negotiated in good faith for several months and when talks permanently broke down, we made the filing to protect our ability to serve our viewers, our advertisers and assure the interests of our employees, and, as importantly, the interests of our lenders. The Chapter 11 filing allows time for a so-called plan of reorganization to be adopted and implemented to lead to resolution of the financing issues as it applies to the stations financed by the mostly non-bank lenders. This will ensure proper treatment of all constituencies. Relations with other lending institutions have been cooperative and non-adversarial."

"Meanwhile, at each station, it will be business as usual with our employees continuing to be compensated for their services, receive reimbursement of expenses and enjoy various benefits. We are also confident that our viewers and advertisers will see no change to our high quality programming service."

"In my over thirty-seven years in the television business, our companies have from time to time navigated through rough financial waters. During each of these cycles, Pappas Telecasting has made sure to serve the viewers with first-class programming and provide the advertisers with great ratings. We are confident that ratings and revenues will continue to be strong while we work through this temporary reorganization."

According to Pappas Telecasting's President & Chief Operating Officer, Dennis J. Davis, "In the last two years, the declining economy, the tightening and virtual freezing of credit markets, the residential housing crisis and the energy crisis have adversely affected many companies, both directly and indirectly. In particular, the television station revenue market throughout the United States has been negatively affected by the slowdown in the economy over the last year, and particularly in the first quarter of 2008. According to data collected by the Television Bureau of Advertising ("TVB"),1 gross television advertising revenues in the first quarter of 2008, exclusive of political advertising, were down 5.9 percent over the same period in 2007. Advertising revenues have been negatively impacted by the extraordinary downturn in the housing market (affecting advertising budgets in the furniture, appliance, real estate, and other related sectors) and increased energy costs, leading to reduced automotive advertising. Notwithstanding the extremely difficult business climate for television stations across the country, most of the Pappas Group television stations have overcome the challenging market trend in 2007 and 2008. For instance, KPTM, a Fox affiliate located in Omaha, Nebraska, achieved revenue increases for the first quarter of 2008 of 27.9 percent over the same period in 2007, exclusive of any political advertising. In Greensboro, North Carolina, WCWG, a CW affiliate, has achieved revenue increases in the first quarter of 2008 of 6.9 percent over the same period in 2007 exclusive of any political revenue. In Fresno, California, the Fox affiliate, KMPH-TV has achieved a 2.0 percent increase in first quarter 2008

1 The TVB is a not-for-profit trade association of America's broadcast television industry. Its members include television broadcast groups, advertising sales representatives, syndications, and international broadcasters. TVB has as its members group television broadcasters who comprise over 750 television stations in the United States.

revenues over the same period last year excluding political advertising. Including political revenue, KMPH-TV has surpassed last year's first quarter performance by 10.4 percent. In fact, more than half of Pappas' full power English language television stations in the various markets in the United States have over-performed in revenue performance as measured by the TVB television revenue survey of over 750 television stations."

nitty316
05-11-08, 11:25 AM
Anyone else have a really crappy HD signal when watching the Cubs game on Fox yesterday. I thought it was just my directv, then I turned it to 42.1 and it was the same. Meanwhile the Pistons/Magic game looked great on ESPNHD.

ajwees41
05-13-08, 02:19 PM
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=153666&site=cdn


cox to launch new guides on hd and HD/DVR boxes in 2009

KSBugeater
05-14-08, 01:05 PM
I fear Cornhustler may be correct about the late arrival of HD locals for Lincoln/Hastings DIRECTV customers... they didn't appear today according to family in Nebraska.

JoeySmalls
05-18-08, 06:06 PM
Sounds like everything but phone is going up

ajwees41
05-18-08, 07:43 PM
Sounds like everything but phone is going up

what's your source? I thought there was a 30 day notice clause. haven't read or seen anything on Omaha's homepage

any mention of upgrades to merit the price increase?

PAULSTORM
05-21-08, 06:13 PM
I fear Cornhustler may be correct about the late arrival of HD locals for Lincoln/Hastings DIRECTV customers... they didn't appear today according to family in Nebraska.

I talked to my Directv dealer/installer, he hasn't heard of any timetables for the HD locals in the Lincoln/Cental Nebr market...he suspects towards the fall or early next year.

Boozerini
05-21-08, 06:53 PM
I have Cox with QAM tuner on Vizio. Saw the prior listings. The first day I set up my TV, I got ESPN2 on 69-2. Two days later it was gone. I get the OTA for the most part (including 107-1 Fox) but other than the on Demand previews nothing else. Is anyone getting any of the on Demand or other channels through QAM with just regular (extended basic) cable?

Boozerini
05-21-08, 06:57 PM
This is what I get:

72.10 6.2.O
72.11 Weather Now (7.2)
74.1 Instructions on OnDemand
82.12 InDemand Previews
104.12 InDemand Previews
105.1 KMTV HD
105.2 KXVO HD
107.1 FOX HD
107.2 NETV HD
107.3 NETV Create (Net3)
108.1 ABC HD
108.2 NBC HD
114.7 InDemand (Adult) stationary screen

ajwees41
05-21-08, 07:15 PM
This is what I get:

72.10 6.2.O
72.11 Weather Now (7.2)
74.1 Instructions on OnDemand
82.12 InDemand Previews
104.12 InDemand Previews
105.1 KMTV HD
105.2 KXVO HD
107.1 FOX HD
107.2 NETV HD
107.3 NETV Create (Net3)
108.1 ABC HD
108.2 NBC HD
114.7 InDemand (Adult) stationary screen

what channels are you actually paying for?

Boozerini
05-21-08, 09:46 PM
I have been a paying Cox customer for ten years and my monthly bill is usually in the neighborhood of $125-130. So can it.

ajwees41
05-21-08, 09:50 PM
I have been a paying Cox customer for ten years and my monthly bill is usually in the neighborhood of $125-130. So can it.

do yyou have a cablecard in your tv? The rest of the lineup most likely encrypted and you will need a box or cablecard.

Ronald L M
05-21-08, 09:52 PM
I'm wondering how the Cox upgrade is going and wondering when Cox is going to roll out more Hd channels? Looking at Cox hd offering's in other cities, Cox Omaha has a much smaller hd lineup than most of them, wonder why?

ajwees41
05-21-08, 10:00 PM
I'm wondering how the Cox upgrade is going and wondering when Cox is going to roll out more Hd channels? Looking at Cox hd offering's in other cities, Cox Omaha has a much smaller hd lineup than most of them, wonder why?

I got an email email back in april that said thet=y were hold off on a g=big announcement in a few months which would put it in the June-July time frame most likely to go go along with the price hike.

MattInLincoln
05-23-08, 03:08 PM
Just FYI, according to a Retailer Chat recap on SatGuys today, Dish Network will launch both Omaha and Lincoln HD locals "this summer."

PAULSTORM
05-23-08, 03:12 PM
Just FYI, according to a Retailer Chat recap on SatGuys today, Dish Network will launch both Omaha and Lincoln HD locals "this summer."

Do you have a link? Thanks

MattInLincoln
05-23-08, 03:17 PM
Do you have a link? Thanks

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/136493-dish-network-retailer-chat-recap-may-23-2008-a.html

In post number 4, there's a screencap of all the cities planned for this summer.

PAULSTORM
05-23-08, 03:20 PM
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/136493-dish-network-retailer-chat-recap-may-23-2008-a.html

In post number 4, there's a screencap of all the cities planned for this summer.


Thanks, Matt. I did a search for it found it after I asked ya..For those w/ a need to see a visual, here ya go: http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=25042&d=1211559897

OK, Directv, it's time to get things going for the Lincoln HD locals!! I may start regretting my switchover from Dish.

PAULSTORM
05-24-08, 09:54 AM
I asked here: http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-hd-discussions/136518-hd-locals-timetable.html#post1377205 if there was any timetable released by Directv for bringing HD locals online. Someone pointed out this link where it lists the Local Receive Facilities for D*: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P1400108#L

They were under the impression that it might not be too long before we see HD locals since they have that address listed for the Lincoln market. Any thoughts??

ScottChez
05-25-08, 12:02 AM
Any thing up with the KOLN Lincoln CBS HD station 10.1 and 10.2?

Up until a couple of days ago I could get it fine all the time from Papillion. Now I cant, the signal comes and goes from 40% to Zero.

I can get the Lincoln channel 8 all the time at around 40%, it is a strong stable picture.


Also, what is going on in Feb 2009? Is it true both Lincoln stations will be switching there HDTV channels back to VHF? If so this a good as I can point my UHF to OMaha and my VHF to Lincoln.

JoelWNelson
05-25-08, 11:16 AM
Yes, ABC, CBS, and PBS in Lincoln are returning to VHF -- channels 8, 10, and 12, respectively. So point your VHF at Lincoln and UHF at Omaha.

vogon13
05-25-08, 03:13 PM
Am trying to watch ABC channel 7 coverage via Directv and am getting instantaneous small mosaicing and tiling at least every 30 seconds, and every minute or 2 a major sound loss and picture freeze for 5 seconds. Had a friend 15 miles away call and it seemed to be simultaneous at his house and mine.

Do we know if network feed is corrupted, or Omaha Uplink is bad ?

Or something else?

vogon13
05-25-08, 03:15 PM
OK, this might help:

I set DVR to record 7 over the air and 7 on D*. I can go back later and see if both break up at same time.

I am curious how picture is on Cox.

ScottChez
05-25-08, 04:39 PM
The last time this happened on Channel 7 over DirecTVs sat , I think it was there encoder. Rebooting it fixed it or something, not sure what they did, but they did fix it right away once they knew about it. KETV trys really hard to keep there feeds looking good. They are always very helpful and always have good ideas on how to fix it or they simply fix it right away- thank you. Chances are KETV will even see this post before you can email them and have it fixed soon.
HD over the SAT is new to all around here so it takes a little work.

KMTV on the other hand when you report an issue like this, they act like its nothing they can do because there signal is always sent perfectly, they always point fingers at the provider instead of trying to help troubleshoot and fix the issue.


UHF Vrs VFH
========
This is good news about the VFH the Lincoln DMA and UHF in OMaha. My 7777 Channel master app is designed for this. There is an input for VFH and one for UHF. Then it combines both and amplifies.

ajwees41
05-25-08, 04:48 PM
Am trying to watch ABC channel 7 coverage via Directv and am getting instantaneous small mosaicing and tiling at least every 30 seconds, and every minute or 2 a major sound loss and picture freeze for 5 seconds. Had a friend 15 miles away call and it seemed to be simultaneous at his house and mine.

Do we know if network feed is corrupted, or Omaha Uplink is bad ?

Or something else?

it's just as bad on cox plus a few other channels

ScottChez
05-27-08, 10:00 AM
I guess for local HD channel quality over a SAT or Cable provider about all you can do is email the station and the provider.

I noticed I had to repoint my ANT to get the Lincoln CBS better, I wonder if they need to do that also for the summer heat.

HDNewbie1028
05-27-08, 03:57 PM
Hi all -

Lurker for a while, first post. Newbie to HD. Question - I have the Dual Tuner HD DVR box from Cox, and some of the HD channels are only broadcasting in stereo, not 5.1. I've noticed this on A & E HD, NETHD, and Versus HD. Was wondering if they are only broadcasting the video in HD, but sound in stereo, or if there is a problem with my DVR? Most of the other HD channels come in 5.1, but these consistently are coming in stereo only. Didn't know if it was my unit, or if they just aren't broadcasting 5.1. I was thinking for a while that A & E wasn't broadcasting in 5.1 on their HD channel, but I watched an episode of CSI Miami yesterday from 2007, and I know CBS was broadcasting the eps in 5.1 a year ago, so I would assume A & E would do the same.

I don't know if you need particulars to my setup, but I have a Kenwood HTIB. Cox DVR toslink out to receiver. My DVD player is a Coax Digital Out to receiver. My receiver is older, so I can't hook up HDMI to my receiver.

Thanks.

SychoBC
05-28-08, 09:44 PM
So I hear Cox owns pretty much all of the fiber in town. Does this decrease the possibility for either something like Verizon FiOS or AT&T U-Verse? It would be nice to have another choice than Cox here in town. Not that I'm complaining about it, I enjoy D*

ajwees41
05-28-08, 10:22 PM
So I hear Cox owns pretty much all of the fiber in town. Does this decrease the possibility for either something like Verizon FiOS or AT&T U-Verse? It would be nice to have another choice than Cox here in town. Not that I'm complaining about it, I enjoy D*

it not just that, but the fact qwest only has a small tv subscriber base.

rmalbers
05-29-08, 12:58 PM
I do think that's true for business traffic. I've heard the network guys at work talking about it. I think there's a COX fiber loop underground that covers pretty much the whole town's business areas. To get some redundent circuits I believe most bigger companies to have some backup qwest or ATT circuits.

dfunk44
05-30-08, 07:57 PM
is this possible?

ajwees41
05-30-08, 08:05 PM
is this possible?

nope

ajwees41
06-01-08, 04:37 AM
what's your source? I thought there was a 30 day notice clause. haven't read or seen anything on Omaha's homepage

any mention of upgrades to merit the price increase?

The Tvguide channel has a crawl at the end of the listings announcing July 1st Movies ondemand will be 0.99-$5.99 WWE,ANime, and HereTV go up 4 cents.

zirconx
06-02-08, 10:36 AM
I got an email from COX a few weeks ago, and now I see little signs around my neighborhood warning us to expect some outages as COX upgrades some equipment in the area. Anyone know whats going on? I kind of assumed this was a rollout of something for the area, but maybe its just my neighborhood. The houses in the area were built around 25 years ago, so its not that old. I'm in Papillion, a suburb of Omaha.

ajwees41
06-02-08, 11:23 AM
I got an email from COX a few weeks ago, and now I see little signs around my neighborhood warning us to expect some outages as COX upgrades some equipment in the area. Anyone know whats going on? I kind of assumed this was a rollout of something for the area, but maybe its just my neighborhood. The houses in the area were built around 25 years ago, so its not that old. I'm in Papillion, a suburb of Omaha.

what did the mail say? It's most likely the 1Ghz upgrades, but when our area was done all we got was a postcard no email, or signs in the yard.

Gary Omaha
06-02-08, 12:06 PM
If it's the same upgrade, our area (central Omaha) was done probably a year ago. Or, that may have been for an earlier project. We had signs around the neighborhood and IIRC I got something in the mail.

ajwees41
06-02-08, 12:09 PM
If it's the same upgrade, our area (central Omaha) was done probably a year ago. Or, that may have been for an earlier project. We had signs around the neighborhood and IIRC I got something in the mail.

I think cox Omaha also handles Council Bluffs Cable,Phone,Internet. I wonder if there upgrade to 1Ghz have been done yet?

room112
06-02-08, 12:26 PM
Anyone else have a Samsung HDTV with a QAM tuner?

I cannot get FOX HD using the QAM tuner. I get CBS, NBC, ABC (all HD) just fine, but it won't find the FOX HD channel.

camus11
06-03-08, 03:37 PM
This is what I get:

72.10 6.2.O
72.11 Weather Now (7.2)
74.1 Instructions on OnDemand
82.12 InDemand Previews
104.12 InDemand Previews
105.1 KMTV HD
105.2 KXVO HD
107.1 FOX HD
107.2 NETV HD
107.3 NETV Create (Net3)
108.1 ABC HD
108.2 NBC HD
114.7 InDemand (Adult) stationary screen

Can you get the locals with just basic or do you need to have a digital package?

I really don't need anything but basic, I would like to get locals in HD without putting up an antenna.

room112
06-03-08, 03:53 PM
@camus11

Nope, just good 'ol analog cable. The signal also carries the QAM channels, so long as your TV has a QAM tuner and can recognize them.

ALTAJoe
06-05-08, 11:14 AM
Antennas - Aaaargh!

Well, I've spent the last 2 hours trying to find the answer myself with no luck. So I need help:

I live at 156th & Pacific in Omaha and my research at antennaweb shows the I will need at least a "Red UHF" to get the best results. Can anyone direct me towards the best antenna. I'd prefer indoor or perhaps one located in the attic. But if that isn't a viable option I'd do an outdoor.

Any and all opinions will be greatly apprciated.

HuskerMike
06-05-08, 01:38 PM
Antennas - Aaaargh!

Well, I've spent the last 2 hours trying to find the answer myself with no luck. So I need help:

I live at 156th & Pacific in Omaha and my research at antennaweb shows the I will need at least a "Red UHF" to get the best results. Can anyone direct me towards the best antenna. I'd prefer indoor or perhaps one located in the attic. But if that isn't a viable option I'd do an outdoor.

Any and all opinions will be greatly apprciated.
Antennas are a huge "it depends" thing. A decent indoor antenna *SHOULD* work for you, but that's not a guarentee. I live at 150th & Dodge, and had to put an antenna in the attic because my plasma set sits in the basement in the southwest corner. 3, 6, and 7 worked great and 26 was ok... but 15 and 42 were nonexistent. The towers for 15 and 42 are located south of Gretna, so the block basement wall pretty much killed the signal in that corner. However, on the other side of the basement, my new media center computer works just fine with a Silver Sensor sitting on top of the credenza.

So it will depend on the location of your TV and what's sitting between it and 72nd & Ames (3, 6, 7 towers), 63rd & Dodge (26 tower), and Gretna (15 and 42 towers). A few trees and a wood wall? Probably ok. Concrete block basement wall? Uh oh.

I'd start with a simple set of rabbit ears from a store with a good return policy and see how that works for you. I ended up buying an Antennas Direct DB-8 in the attic and splitting it, pointing one half towards north 72nd street and the other towards the west southwest, then adding a pre-amp to the mix because it's about 150 feet of cable between the antenna and the TV. It was either that or buy a rotor to adjust the antenna between a NE alignment and SW alignment.

HuskerMike
06-05-08, 01:43 PM
I'm surprised WOWT doesn't have an HD version for their wx warning graphics. Their sister station that's also owned by Gray Communications, Ch 11, in Grand Island does. Whenever there are storm warnings, they're able
to put the map on top of the HD programming instead of dumbing it down to SD to display the graphic.
Earlier this week, channel 7 had HD weather warning graphics during some storms. However, they still will punt out to full weather coverage frequently.

Last night during the Stanley Cup final broadcast, channel 6 eventually went split screen with the hockey in SD mode in a box, but the rest of the screen was filled with Jim Flowers face as he described what was happening. No radar, no video. Just Flowers and their news anchors yakking it up. Talk about a waste of effort.

OmahaTVAddict
06-05-08, 09:23 PM
Earlier this week, channel 7 had HD weather warning graphics during some storms. However, they still will punt out to full weather coverage frequently.

Last night during the Stanley Cup final broadcast, channel 6 eventually went split screen with the hockey in SD mode in a box, but the rest of the screen was filled with Jim Flowers face as he described what was happening. No radar, no video. Just Flowers and their news anchors yakking it up. Talk about a waste of effort.

Well right now they got no HD feed going on 7 since they keep cutting to Bill during the commercial break. If they cut in during the game tonight I will be angry! :mad:

OmahaTVAddict
06-05-08, 09:24 PM
Well I stand corrected as they do now since I just checked. I'm sure someone said something to them.

OmahaTVAddict
06-05-08, 09:39 PM
Now they got the HD weather warning graphics going. Not too bad looking honestly now they need to stick to that and don't cut to Bill no more. Only Bill I wanna see is Bill Russell sitting in the audience at the game.

room112
06-06-08, 09:36 AM
Well I stand corrected as they do now since I just checked. I'm sure someone said something to them.

It was me!!

I called right away and complained my @ss off.

KETV: "Sir, we keep the weather notifications up so our viewing public can stay informed"

Me: "Well, let your viewing public watch your regular (analog) channel to stay informed, I want my HD feed!"

KETV: "I'll pass it along to our station managers, sir."

I then had three other buddies call the same # and b*tch as well.

I feel vindicated :D

Gary Omaha
06-06-08, 12:02 PM
The thing about KETV in particular is that they have 7.2 weather. Everyone who can receive their HD channel can also get 7.2, right? So it would seem to be a public service to simply run a scroll across the bottom alerting viewers to weather conditions and inviting them either to go to the analog channel or their weather channel. After all, they're the only Omaha station that has that feature! It would seem to be a promotional bonus and a win for HD viewers.

angryht
06-06-08, 12:48 PM
Excellent point, Gary!

ALTAJoe
06-06-08, 01:20 PM
HuskerMike, When you mention "splitting" the DB-8, what exactly do you mean? Do you actually have to cut the array?

HuskerMike
06-06-08, 01:35 PM
HuskerMike, When you mention "splitting" the DB-8, what exactly do you mean? Do you actually have to cut the array?
The DB-8 is actually a series of four arrays. You might be thinking about the CM-4228, which is one huge grid. I didn't buy that one because I couldn't get it in my attic without cutting a hole in the roof.:eek:

The DB-8 has 4 different grids, and is essentially 4 DB-2 antennas mounted 2 x 2. (Much like the DB-4 is 2 DB-2 antennas stacked.) So, I merely unbolted one side of the DB-8, and hung it from a couple of nails in the attic, aimed towards the west southwest. (One of these days, I'll do something a little more permanent...) Then I aimed the remaining side of the DB-8 towards 72nd and Ames. The DB-8 has a coupler that combines the two feeds, so it wasn't much work; in fact, it was more work climbing through the attic and then downstairs to check everything out.

ALTAJoe
06-06-08, 05:16 PM
That sounds very doable. You get good reception in the attic?

Boozerini
06-07-08, 06:25 PM
I get those with extended basic cable but no digital package

ajwees41
06-08-08, 06:56 PM
cox digital Does any one have trouble viewing channels 202,902-920,924-948?

I get off air, but the rest of the channels plus ondemand works I am puzzled.

juergen99
06-08-08, 09:00 PM
"cox digital Does any one have trouble viewing channels 202,902-920,924-948?

I get off air, but the rest of the channels plus ondemand works I am puzzled."

They work fine for me (8:00 pm).

HuskerMike
06-09-08, 01:46 PM
That sounds very doable. You get good reception in the attic?
It's pretty good, though I ended up buying a CM-7777 preamp for the downstairs lead because of the 150 foot run of cable. Plus, I have the signal split to feed the kitchen TV. It's been really solid for the Omaha stations (3, 6, 7, 15, 26, 32, 42) . 12 out of Lincoln is a little spotty; I might fix that a bit by aiming it a little more west than south. (Of course, 26 is pretty much the same as 12 anymore, except when transmitter problems occur...)

This fall or winter, I might experiment with grabbing a VHF antenna and pointing it west as the Lincoln stations (8, 10, and 12) are going to move their digital signals to the VHF band after the analog cutoff in February. Since the CM-7777 supports a separate VHF input, this should be a simple hookup. Only problem is that I've got pine trees and a hill blocking my view of the horizon.

ALTAJoe
06-10-08, 01:08 PM
Mike, since I have a mast from an old DISH that is probably in the best place for both Crown Point and Gretna do you think the DB8 would work without splitting it up?

Aaron Oppliger
06-10-08, 04:44 PM
Like Joe, I have an old mast from a dish on the south side of our house in eastern Gretna. The former owners didn't put it on the roof, but at about 6 feet above ground level. I guess it worked fine for dish, but would this work for an antenna? I get good reception with a set of rabbit ears, but I'd definitely like it to be stronger, as occasionally I have to move the antenna around to get a solid signal.

camus11
06-13-08, 12:53 AM
@camus11

Nope, just good 'ol analog cable. The signal also carries the QAM channels, so long as your TV has a QAM tuner and can recognize them.

Thanks, I wasn't able to pull them with my HDHR, it does QAM, I might give it another shot.

I ended using the coax that was run all over the house to run a single line from the basement to the attic and hooked up an antenna.

Terrible job by whoever installed the coax, up into the attic, outside, down the exterior, through the foundation into the basement, where it was connected to an amplified splitter, then run back outside to some cable box thing.

Antennas are a huge "it depends" thing.

I'd start with a simple set of rabbit ears from a store with a good return policy and see how that works for you.

Sage advice. I have $10 radioshack job sitting on a joist in my attic and I am pulling 75-90% signal strength depending on the channel but 100% signal quality, 100% symbol quality for all channels. It runs through about 70ft of coax so imagine that causes some signal strength drop. Try a few out and make sure you can return them.

catchmyjetta
06-16-08, 07:50 PM
Was wondering if anybody that has gone the D* route have had any regrets about it. I have been a longtime Cox subscriber, but this latest fee hike along with the continued foot dragging with adding HD channels is wearing thin with me. My biggest concern about sattelite is the signal during storms like the early sunday morning storm a week and a half ago or last wednesdays outbreak. Did anybody have signal troubles during those times? How about in the winter, does snow and ice cause big problems, especally if my dish is on the roof? I just want to have some confidence that if a storm is rolling in, I can depend on the sattelite. I do have rabbit ears for backup on the upstairs tv, but not downstairs. Might have to consider antenna backup for that.

Ronald L M
06-16-08, 08:22 PM
Was wondering if anybody that has gone the D* route have had any regrets about it. I have been a longtime Cox subscriber, but this latest fee hike along with the continued foot dragging with adding HD channels is wearing thin with me. My biggest concern about sattelite is the signal during storms like the early sunday morning storm a week and a half ago or last wednesdays outbreak. Did anybody have signal troubles during those times? How about in the winter, does snow and ice cause big problems, especally if my dish is on the roof? I just want to have some confidence that if a storm is rolling in, I can depend on the sattelite. I do have rabbit ears for backup on the upstairs tv, but not downstairs. Might have to consider antenna backup for that.

I used to have Directv for 7 years until 2004 and went back to Cox for the Triple play (Phone, TV, Internet) I was very happy with Directv choices and only lost signals a few times a year, usually during a very severe thunderstorm at its most severe point and one time during a ice storm. I have to agree about Cox dragging there feet when it comes to adding hd in Omaha, look at Cox in Tulsa and OKC and they have 40 hd stations and Omaha only 26. I call Cox about twice a month complaining about slow rollout of Hd.

RLM5150
06-17-08, 02:23 PM
I'm thinking about switching too. Cox will not give a straight answer on the rollout plans and I'm not happy about the latest rate hike either. Looks like my bill will be going up a lot more that the 6% I've heard quoted.

I was hoping something was coming soon as I've seen that several markets have been getting USA HD and Sci-Fi HD among others in the past few weeks. All I get from Cox is "coming soon". I guess soon means "leave us alone, we're putzing along as slow as we can."

A neighbor of mine used to work at Cox (left early this year) and said they were supposed to be done with the cabling upgrades by end of March. Wouldn't elaborate on why that plan fell so short and still isn't done.

PMKMDJ
06-18-08, 03:42 PM
I have had D* for about 6 years and haven't regretted it for the most part. I have never had signal issues other than one or two bad thunderstorms each year. The local channels are done via spot beam and I occasionally will lose all channels and not the locals during bad weather (this was the case last Wed). The only real downside is the cost to upgrade equipment, an example being when they started to roll out HD DVR's. I was able to work out a deal, but with Cox the cost would be minimal.

ajwees41
06-18-08, 04:57 PM
I have had D* for about 6 years and haven't regretted it for the most part. I have never had signal issues other than one or two bad thunderstorms each year. The local channels are done via spot beam and I occasionally will lose all channels and not the locals during bad weather (this was the case last Wed). The only real downside is the cost to upgrade equipment, an example being when they started to roll out HD DVR's. I was able to work out a deal, but with Cox the cost would be minimal.

well come july all the cox boxes will be $5.25/month. There is no charge to go exchange boxes.

ScottChez
06-18-08, 11:01 PM
For many years cable has always been behind the two SAT providers for HD and SD channels.
Its just they way it is.

By next year Cox will have about 100 HD channels. But by then DirecTV will launch there 3rd HD sat so they will have 200 HD Channels (as quoted by there CEO in there earnings call). Dishnetwork will also have a lot more HD soon keeping up with or at times beating DirecTV.

If your happy with a lot of the good HD channels and are not one of those who must have ALL HD latest channels then Cable is right for you.

If your more cutting edge, and always want the latest in HD, then I would pick a Sat provider.
Cable will always be about 1-2 years behind. It always has been.

All 3 providers have rate increases every year. Cables seems to be about a $1-$3 more increase each year over the SAT providers. All 3 raise rates because the cable channels are all raising there rates to the providers. If $1-$3 extra a month is OK with you stay with cable. Do the match. The plans are made so you cant compare apples to apples, you almost need a spreadsheet to compare all 3 providers.

You need to study the pros and cons of all 3 providers. Everyone has different needs.

My observations on DirecTV
==============
- I have DirecTV and my Dish is tweaked for max signal. I did not loose locals with rain fade in the big storms.

- I also have the DirecTv 3,000 shows via One Demand (video over IP) like cable. Its free, all you need to do is plug your DVR into the internet.

- I also have the new DirecTV beta for streaming recorded shows on my home PC. I think they will cost extra once they roll it out.

- I have over 100 HD channels, with an other 50 promised by the end of the year for 150

- Snow and Ice is never a cause for signal lost. Only LARGE hail for me. When that happens you should be in the basement anyway.

- I also have a external HD for 750 GIG plugged into my HD DVR. DirecTV supports it.

- Multi room viewing (watching a show recorded on one DVR on an other via the ethernet connection) is due by end of year. Its the same as the DVR to PC streaming there beta testing with everyone now.

- My HD DVR also does Local HD over the air so if the SAT did go out, I just switch to the local over the air channels, they cant go out.

- They have Local HD on the SAT, Dishnetwork does not yet

ajwees41
06-19-08, 07:14 AM
For many years cable has always been behind the two SAT providers for HD and SD channels.
Its just they way it is.

By next year Cox will have about 100 HD channels. But by then DirecTV will launch there 3rd HD sat so they will have 200 HD Channels (as quoted by there CEO in there earnings call). Dishnetwork will also have a lot more HD soon keeping up with or at times beating DirecTV.

If your happy with a lot of the good HD channels and are not one of those who must have ALL HD latest channels then Cable is right for you.

If your more cutting edge, and always want the latest in HD, then I would pick a Sat provider.
Cable will always be about 1-2 years behind. It always has been.

All 3 providers have rate increases every year. Cables seems to be about a $1-$3 more increase each year over the SAT providers. All 3 raise rates because the cable channels are all raising there rates to the providers. If $1-$3 extra a month is OK with you stay with cable. Do the match. The plans are made so you cant compare apples to apples, you almost need a spreadsheet to compare all 3 providers.

You need to study the pros and cons of all 3 providers. Everyone has different needs.

My observations on DirecTV
==============
- I have DirecTV and my Dish is tweaked for max signal. I did not loose locals with rain fade in the big storms.

- I also have the DirecTv 3,000 shows via One Demand (video over IP) like cable. Its free, all you need to do is plug your DVR into the internet.

- I also have the new DirecTV beta for streaming recorded shows on my home PC. I think they will cost extra once they roll it out.

- I have over 100 HD channels, with an other 50 promised by the end of the year for 150

- Snow and Ice is never a cause for signal lost. Only LARGE hail for me. When that happens you should be in the basement anyway.

- I also have a external HD for 750 GIG plugged into my HD DVR. DirecTV supports it.

- Multi room viewing (watching a show recorded on one DVR on an other via the ethernet connection) is due by end of year. Its the same as the DVR to PC streaming there beta testing with everyone now.

- My HD DVR also does Local HD over the air so if the SAT did go out, I just switch to the local over the air channels, they cant go out.

- They have Local HD on the SAT, Dishnetwork does not yet

yes the locals can got out if there is a problem at the local station. Just look at FOX and the CW they where off the air for a few minutes last night during the simpsons.

DevoX
06-22-08, 08:24 AM
(my other post was erroneously locked... oh well -- here's what I wrote...)

Folks,

I've been a member of the forum for a while now. I remember back in the early days of 2000 when I imported a GI receiver for Cox HDTV for $800... Times certainly have changed!

Anyway, last December I finally purchased a new TV (Samsung FP-T6374 63-inch plasma). It has an ATSC tuner built-in of course, which is great because my old Samsung SIRT150 shot craps last October. I've still got my homemade antenna (search the forums for pics of the dual RatShack double-bowtie monster).

That said, I've got a few bones to pick with our local DTV broadcasters. Some of these have been persistent problems going all the way back to 2003-2004. Others are relatively new.

Here they are, in chronological order:

1. KMTV's volume level... WTF? It's SO MUCH LOUDER than the other stations. It's been this way for YEARS! Why hasn't anything been done yet? Normal volume is 14-16 on the TV. KMTV needs to be turned down to 8 to be tolerable.

2. WOWT and KETV's respective sub-channels... Seriously, does anybody watch these? KETV's weather channel (7-2) is somewhat useful during storms, but 6-2 seems to have nothing but complete crap 24/7 at the expense of picture quality on 6-1.

3. KXVO's strange goddamn 15-2 channel (http://www.tuvision.com/, TuVision). It's some Pappas-owned Latino station and the volume is 1/5th of what it should be. My girlfriend and I watch it when we're wasted because it's so trippy... Those Mexican westerns from the 50's are a hoot! But why can't they fix the volume? 14-16 on the volume is normal, this station requires me to turn the volume to 28-30 to hear it.

4. KPTM and KXVO frequently have dicked up aspect ratio. The other day, Planet of the Apes was on. It was stretched tall. Almost as if the movie was being broadcast OAR 2.35:1 but KPTM happily stretched it to fit the 1.85:1 screen size. Honestly, are these stations run by the elderly? Are they flooded with complaints about black bars when the network sends 2.35:1 material?

5. What is the deal with the local PBS stations? When do they broadcast anything? Are they even capable of HD? Sometimes (9 out of 10) my tuner just can't receive their broadcasts. And yeah, I've played with my antenna a lot. They will come in at 50-75% signal one day, then disappear the next. It's been a few months since I last saw a local PBS station's DTV broadcast.

6. Other oddball stuff being broadcast for seemingly no reason on KPTM 42-2 (so-called "MyNetworkTV", http://www.mynetworktv.com/ -- the webpage is deceptively "realistic", but the broadcast channel has NONE of the advertised programming on it)... I've seen some WEIRD shows on this channel. Nobody has any programming information for it, either. TONS of weird black and white movies from the 1930's... Can it POSSIBLY be justified? Who is buying the ads on these networks? Who WATCHES this stuff? How do they make money?

Anyway... That's about it... Anyone care to chime in?

ajwees41
06-22-08, 12:33 PM
http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/dclineup.asp Omaha to add LifeTimeHD,MTV Tr3s, MTU on June 30th. Droping Weather scan(202)

JoelWNelson
06-22-08, 09:49 PM
5. What is the deal with the local PBS stations? When do they broadcast anything? Are they even capable of HD?
Might depend on your location. North of Gretna I get the Omaha PBS, Lincoln PBS, Council Bluffs PBS, and Red Oak PBS. All have HD on their main channel as well as two subchannels. Might be cutting out if the signal is poor in your location, though.

6. Other oddball stuff being broadcast for seemingly no reason on KPTM 42-2 (so-called "MyNetworkTV", http://www.mynetworktv.com/ -- the webpage is deceptively "realistic", but the broadcast channel has NONE of the advertised programming on it)... I've seen some WEIRD shows on this channel. Nobody has any programming information for it, either. TONS of weird black and white movies from the 1930's... Can it POSSIBLY be justified? Who is buying the ads on these networks? Who WATCHES this stuff? How do they make money?

Anyway... That's about it... Anyone care to chime in?


42.2 is only MyNetworkTV during primetime. Otherwise they are an affiliate of the AmericaOne network. http://www.americaone.com/

nitty316
06-23-08, 11:59 AM
Smackdown is moving to the MyNetwork channel. As of now Directv doesn't even have that channel on their lineup in Omaha. That really sucks.

room112
06-23-08, 03:26 PM
http://www.cox.com/Omaha/Digitalcable/dclineup.asp Omaha to add LifeTimeHD,MTV Tr3s, MTU on June 30th. Droping Weather scan(202)

Lifetime HD??? Really???

Before NFL Network HD, or SciFi HD, or any HD feed that the main consumers of HD would want before LifeTime HD?

/start sarcasm

Now I can watch "That Bastard and How He Ruined Your Life" in glorious HD!!

/end sarcasm

ajwees41
06-23-08, 04:48 PM
Lifetime HD??? Really???

Before NFL Network HD, or SciFi HD, or any HD feed that the main consumers of HD would want before LifeTime HD?

/start sarcasm

Now I can watch "That Bastard and How He Ruined Your Life" in glorious HD!!

/end sarcasm

from talking to a csr the upgrade to 1Ghz is getting done faster than thought and there is supposed to be a big annoucement coming in a few months.

Ronald L M
06-23-08, 11:37 PM
from talking to a csr the upgrade to 1Ghz is getting done faster than thought and there is supposed to be a big annoucement coming in a few months.

Knowing Cox the announcement may come by Christmas if were lucky.

angryht
06-23-08, 11:47 PM
I hear that!!!

ajwees41
06-23-08, 11:58 PM
Knowing Cox the announcement may come by Christmas if were lucky.


Well considering I heard it from Kristin Peck Vice President, Public and Government Affairs and she has been right more times than wrong. I would say the upgrade is a close to being done.

Husker Nation
06-24-08, 02:20 AM
Hey everyone im new on the boards. I have a few questions and I hope im posting in the right place. Ill provide some info here first. I live in Gladstone, Nebraska. About 7miles west of Fairbury. Diode communications handles my Directv installations, diodecom.net, I have a 46in Sony-KDF-46E2000 WEGA. The directv equipment im not quite sure on I believe it's a Model H20 HD receiver, the dish that receives analog and HD sattelite signal, and the dish that recieves local channels. I do not have a HD DVR yet, but am thinking about upgrading to that package sometime before football season. My question is.

1. When is directv going to rollout the local channels in HD for lincoln? I know omaha has them, and their site said that Lincoln would be coming soon, but it does not say that anymore. Last I heard was May 'passed' or June 'havn't seen anything yet'. My current antennea on my roof does not pickup any local channels in HD except on occasion 10/11 which is 10.1 and sometimes 10.2, all other channels I cannot pick up in digital. I'm thinking about buying a better antennea but don't want to spend the money if DTV is going to have locals in HD here in the near future.

2. I run HDMI from my receiver to tv and a digital optical audio cable from the receiver to surround sound. neverminding the surround sound. while watching local analog channels on my tv, I only need to have the volume around 6 or 7, anything louder and it about blows my eardrums. However when I watch other satellite channels SD and HD, not local, I need the volume around 30-35 for me to hear it. I have tried everything I can think of, in the receiver settings I have turned volume to high and turned on dolby digital, but nothing seems to help. Im not sure if it matters but under captioning I have captions off. It then says digital track 1, analog track cc1, I believe is what it says. My surround sound seems to work fine, a tad quieter than the locals, but hardly noticeble. Dvd's played on my 360 "optical audio to surround", are the loudest. Anyone have any ideas?

3. Is there anyway I could get omaha's locals in HD until they become available for lincoln?

4. I've heard rumors that DTV has some sort of "on demand" service or is testing it. Just wondering how to get this if it's available. I do have Highspeed internet through Diode, their wireless internet. I wasn't sure if that would be required or not. Also does their on demand service use your bandwidth, in essence, does it have to download the entire tv show or movie.?

Husker Nation
06-24-08, 01:43 PM
Anyone?

Cornhustler
06-25-08, 01:21 AM
Hey everyone im new on the boards. I have a few questions and I hope im posting in the right place. Ill provide some info here first. I live in Gladstone, Nebraska. About 7miles west of Fairbury. Diode communications handles my Directv installations, diodecom.net, I have a 46in Sony-KDF-46E2000 WEGA. The directv equipment im not quite sure on I believe it's a Model H20 HD receiver, the dish that receives analog and HD sattelite signal, and the dish that recieves local channels. I do not have a HD DVR yet, but am thinking about upgrading to that package sometime before football season. My question is.

1. When is directv going to rollout the local channels in HD for lincoln? I know omaha has them, and their site said that Lincoln would be coming soon, but it does not say that anymore. Last I heard was May 'passed' or June 'havn't seen anything yet'. My current antennea on my roof does not pickup any local channels in HD except on occasion 10/11 which is 10.1 and sometimes 10.2, all other channels I cannot pick up in digital. I'm thinking about buying a better antennea but don't want to spend the money if DTV is going to have locals in HD here in the near future.

2. I run HDMI from my receiver to tv and a digital optical audio cable from the receiver to surround sound. neverminding the surround sound. while watching local analog channels on my tv, I only need to have the volume around 6 or 7, anything louder and it about blows my eardrums. However when I watch other satellite channels SD and HD, not local, I need the volume around 30-35 for me to hear it. I have tried everything I can think of, in the receiver settings I have turned volume to high and turned on dolby digital, but nothing seems to help. Im not sure if it matters but under captioning I have captions off. It then says digital track 1, analog track cc1, I believe is what it says. My surround sound seems to work fine, a tad quieter than the locals, but hardly noticeble. Dvd's played on my 360 "optical audio to surround", are the loudest. Anyone have any ideas?

3. Is there anyway I could get omaha's locals in HD until they become available for lincoln?

4. I've heard rumors that DTV has some sort of "on demand" service or is testing it. Just wondering how to get this if it's available. I do have Highspeed internet through Diode, their wireless internet. I wasn't sure if that would be required or not. Also does their on demand service use your bandwidth, in essence, does it have to download the entire tv show or movie.?

1.The most reliable source I have heard says July but possibly August.
As of right now you will only be able to get CBS and ABC in HD from DirecTV if you are located in the Lincoln DMA (which you are).

When it comes to buying a new antenna - spend the money. When bad weather hits your area like it did on May 29 and your satellite signal is lost you will want to have a backup signal source so you can watch local weather warnings from 8 or 10/11. Plus you can watch local NET HD, NET2 and NET3 which are not yet offered on DirecTV. I like the new 769 series from Winegard for receiving channels 7 - 69.

Read more about station contact information here. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13620965#post13620965


2. Not sure but you may want to ask this question in another thread.

3. You could "move" to a different address in the Omaha DMA but probably not worth the hassle.

4. DirecTV has an On Demand service that's available to subscribers with one of the new DVR's (HR20, HR21 etc.). It's in Beta testing right now but seems to work alright for me. Right now the service is free although there are pay per view movies in both SD and HD. You must have high speed internet to use it and yes it does download the entire show.

Trip in VA
06-25-08, 01:24 AM
KUON filed to kill analog 12 and digital 40 on October 28. They will then do all the upgrades necessary and fire up digital 12 ASAP.

- Trip

nebugeater
06-25-08, 07:38 AM
Anyone?



http://www.satelliteguys.us


Do some searches here and I think you will find a lot of your SAT answers. Those SAT ????'s that that you can't find have a better shot of getting answered in detail on this site. I have DISH so cannot help much with your concerns.

KSBugeater
06-25-08, 10:14 AM
Husker Nation, see my PM to you yesterday. My answers are very similar to Cornhustler's.

And, not to start a p*****g match with my namesake bugeater, but dbstalk.com, a sister site to AVSforums, generally has more of the latest info on DirecTV and is monitored/contributed to by a few DirecTV employees. I read both sites, but I trust dbstalk more.

nebugeater
06-26-08, 02:38 PM
Husker Nation, see my PM to you yesterday. My answers are very similar to Cornhustler's.

And, not to start a p*****g match with my namesake bugeater, but dbstalk.com, a sister site to AVSforums, generally has more of the latest info on DirecTV and is monitored/contributed to by a few DirecTV employees. I read both sites, but I trust dbstalk more.

No problem KS, I look at both sites too. They both have their +/-. I think the one I mentioned has better Dish info, but that is personal opinion. THey have recently started a formal relashionsip with Direct also but I do not watch that side to much. Go to either to find your help.

ScottChez
06-27-08, 08:08 PM
I know KPTM 42 and KXVO 15 filed for bankrupcy a few weeks ago and are for sale.

Are things so bad they cant afford gas for there back up generator?

I see both are off the air right now both Digital and Analog, after the wind storm.

Things must be bad there. I hope someone with a lot of money buys them soon.
I think the station can really do a lot for our DMA market if they just had the money.
Maybe they could change there 15-2 digital sub channel into a music channel or 24 hour news channel or something. Or 24 hour radar. The spanish channel on 15-2 is already on the air on 57.

gateway1080
06-30-08, 03:40 PM
ANYONE in GI? Hello. I was hoping to get a little help picking out an antenna from the pros. I live in GI (68803) with the following stats below. I was thinking about going with the CM 4221. Is this a good choice for my situation? Will I need a preamp with distances as follows? I only have 2 tvs hooked up max and will start with 1 for now. The only problem I don’t know how to address is the low vhf channel. What do you all suggest? Im open to any and all suggests on what kind of setup to get. Any other advice? There are so many choices, I just want to get the best bang for the buck and get a good solid setup. Thanks in advance for the help.

Yellow uhf KHNE 29 PBS 112° 18.2 29
*yellow uhf KHNE-DT 28.1 PBS 112° 8.1 28
*yellow uhf KGIN-DT 11.1 CBS 220° 29.8 32
Yellow uhf KTVG 17 FOX 213° 14.4 17
*yellowPTFeb uhf KHGI-DT 36.1 ABC 231° 29.4 36
Green vhf KGIN 11 CBS 220° 29.8 11
* greenPTFeb uhf KTVG-DT 19.1 FOX 213° 14.4 19
* green uhf KTVG-DT 17.1 FOX 213° 14.4 19
lt green vhf KHGI 13 ABC 230° 28.7 13
*redPTFeb vhf KGIN-DT 11.1 CBS 220° 29.8 11
*redPTFeb vhf KHAS-DT 5.1 NBC 172° 16.6 5
*red uhf KHGI-DT 13.1 ABC 231° 28.9 36
Blue vhf KHAS 5 NBC 172° 16.6 5

Maverick151
06-30-08, 07:23 PM
Cox makes a step forward. Came home this evening and we now have Travel HD (777)and Lifetime HD (780). I will never watch the lifetime channel, but my wife will. As for Travel, it's been too long. I live in Papillion, so hopefully the channels come soon for the rest of you guys.

ajwees41
07-01-08, 09:11 AM
Cox makes a step forward. Came home this evening and we now have Travel HD (777)and Lifetime HD (780). I will never watch the lifetime channel, but my wife will. As for Travel, it's been too long. I live in Papillion, so hopefully the channels come soon for the rest of you guys.

they were supposed to launch everywhere plus Cinemax,ShowHD,and the 2 MTV digital channels.. I can't check though because we only have half power from the pole due to the strom Friday.

Maverick151
07-01-08, 01:21 PM
I don't get cinemax or showtime so can't say if the HD channels came through for that. But did find the two MTV channels that were added to the 200 tier. At least these are more music than its main channel that consists only of reality.

ajwees41
07-01-08, 01:41 PM
I don't get cinemax or showtime so can't say if the HD channels came through for that. But did find the two MTV channels that were added to the 200 tier. At least these are more music than its main channel that consists only of reality.

even if you don't subscribe to them they should still show in the guide if you have a cox converter. Hopefully I will have tv by Saturday if OPPD can get the power fixed.

Ronald L M
07-01-08, 06:37 PM
even if you don't subscribe to them they should still show in the guide if you have a cox converter. Hopefully I will have tv by Saturday if OPPD can get the power fixed.

Cox did add 4 hd channels Starz,Cinemax,Travel channel and Lifetime, along with 2 digital Mtv channels. This is a start by Cox, but with football season just 2 months away why did'nt Cox add NFL network hd and FSN-hd?

ajwees41
07-01-08, 06:45 PM
Cox did add 4 hd channels Starz,Cinemax,Travel channel and Lifetime, along with 2 digital Mtv channels. This is a start by Cox, but with football season just 2 months away why did'nt Cox add NFL network hd and FSN-hd?

you do know cox could add those within the two months . NFL more likely since we know it was being tested.

Ronald L M
07-01-08, 07:24 PM
you do know cox add those within the two months . NFL more likely since we know it was being tested.

I just hope Cox adds FSN Hd soon because the Huskers will appear on Fsn-hd this fall with dates TBA.

ajwees41
07-01-08, 07:44 PM
I just hope Cox adds FSN Hd soon because the Huskers will appear on Fsn-hd this fall with dates TBA.

did you request it?

depechsker
07-01-08, 08:11 PM
Gateway1080,

I live in south GI and use the CM4221 with preamp and rotor mounted in attic. I'm able to get everything you listed, plus KLKN (ABC) 8.1 and 10.1 (CBS). On rare occasions I can even pull in Omaha (just enough to get teased). I usually keep my antenna pointed straight east to get ABC and CBS and enjoy the HD.

DevoX
07-01-08, 09:35 PM
I know KPTM 42 and KXVO 15 filed for bankrupcy a few weeks ago and are for sale.


For reals?!

LOL!

I don't think anybody over there truly knows how to run a TV station. Sorry to anyone here who does/used to work for them, but man -- your engineers need to read the manuals sometime.

ajwees41
07-02-08, 02:12 PM
Cox did add 4 hd channels Starz,Cinemax,Travel channel and Lifetime, along with 2 digital Mtv channels. This is a start by Cox, but with football season just 2 months away why did'nt Cox add NFL network hd and FSN-hd?

we did just get our power back this afternoon and we get the channels also they took weatherscan off.

ScottChez
07-02-08, 03:59 PM
About all you can do with Cox is just keep calling and asking for your fav HD channels.

The are required to log every call and the higher ups get a Bar Chart every month showing how many asked for more HD.

Its all about profits and customer retention. If they think not very many care about more HD, they wont be a rush to add more HD as it cost Cox more.

Be sure to call EVERY month, give them your account number and ask for more HD, then say Dish and DirecTV already have 100 HD nationals, they need to add more soon like xxxxxx where xxxxx is your fav HD channel that you want added. Its the only way to get more HD faster, trust me.

ajwees41
07-02-08, 04:24 PM
The are required to log every call and the higher ups get a Bar Chart every month showing how many asked for more HD.


You know this for sure?


Scott you are forgetting cox is in the middle of an upgrade. While they don't have the channels yet after the upgrade is finished there might be more.

Quit saying stuff about Dish and Directv until they brodcast Analog they are different then cox which chose to offer analog and digital both and know is converting to all digital.

JoeySmalls
07-02-08, 04:39 PM
USA HD, Bravo HD, SciFi HD, and CNBC HD... it looks like they have already rolled these channels out in many COX markets. Omaha tends to be one of the last since there is no real incentive (competition) in town.

They haven't even tested these channels internally in Omaha, so my guess is they would be a few months away at best.

Source:
http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/cox/

Ronald L M
07-02-08, 05:23 PM
USA HD, Bravo HD, SciFi HD, and CNBC HD... it looks like they have already rolled these channels out in many COX markets. Omaha tends to be one of the last since there is no real incentive (competition) in town.

They haven't even tested these channels internally in Omaha, so my guess is they would be a few months away at best.

Source:
http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/cox/

Joey, I would agree that Cox has been very slow in adding hd in Omaha, I understand they have to upgrade but, hd has been on the horizon for years and the upgrade should have been completed 1 or 2 years ago.I call Cox 2 times a month and they say the hd channels are coming, but no specific dates or channels, with there current rate of adding hd it will take Cox 5 years to catch up with Directv with there current hd offerings.I have been really close to jumping to Directv, (trying to convince the wife).

ajwees41
07-02-08, 10:44 PM
USA HD, Bravo HD, SciFi HD, and CNBC HD... it looks like they have already rolled these channels out in many COX markets. Omaha tends to be one of the last since there is no real incentive (competition) in town.

They haven't even tested these channels internally in Omaha, so my guess is they would be a few months away at best.

Source:
http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/cox/

are you sure they haven't? From what one poster said We should be getting AMCHD,NFLHD,MHD soon since there where in the guide until his box was authorized.

JoeySmalls
07-03-08, 12:12 AM
Those three were channels that Cox was test (employee's are the test group). These channels have been removed from the test group.

....It was probably an old box from an employee...

ajwees41
07-03-08, 12:26 AM
Those three were channels that Cox was test (employee's are the test group). These channels have been removed from the test group.

....It was probably an old box from an employee...

what channels are you talking about? The box he had was a brand new one with the cable card, so I don't think it was an employee box.

room112
07-03-08, 09:37 AM
I've been reading numerous reports of a SDV rollout in other Cox areas.

I'm wondering how soon till it reaches Omaha? Maybe after the 1Ghz project?

Not a problem for me on the big TV, but I've got 3-4 other TVs around the house that rely on analog cable.

ajwees41
07-03-08, 10:43 AM
I've been reading numerous reports of a SDV rollout in other Cox areas.

I'm wondering how soon till it reaches Omaha? Maybe after the 1Ghz project?

Not a problem for me on the big TV, but I've got 3-4 other TVs around the house that rely on analog cable.

well cox plans to brodcast analog until 2012.

ajwees41
07-05-08, 01:40 PM
Anyone hear anything on which local news will go HD first?

ajwees41
07-05-08, 01:45 PM
USA HD, Bravo HD, SciFi HD, and CNBC HD... it looks like they have already rolled these channels out in many COX markets. Omaha tends to be one of the last since there is no real incentive (competition) in town.

They haven't even tested these channels internally in Omaha, so my guess is they would be a few months away at best.

Source:
http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/cox/

Joey how long do they test before the go system wide? I ask because I read other cox system launch 8 or HD at onetime.

So while they might not be testing yet when the Omaha upgrades are done we could have 10-15 HD launch at one time.

JoelWNelson
07-05-08, 10:11 PM
Anyone hear anything on which local news will go HD first?

I checked with local stations last fall... I know WOWT is working on it. Their production quality (picture clarity, graphics resolution) is better than the other locals as it is. They were hoping to have local HD news this year; not sure if that's still on target.

KPTM can output a locally-originated HD picture since they have the HD sidebars on their newscasts, but have yet to run HD video. (Looks like the TVs may be showing HD in the newsroom, though.)

KETV had some higher priorities so I didn't get the impression it would happen soon; at least not before the analog cut-off date.

KOLN was unlikely to have HD newscasts until 2009, after the analog cut-off date.

No info from either KMTV or KLKN.

ajwees41
07-05-08, 10:39 PM
I checked with local stations last fall... I know WOWT is working on it. Their production quality (picture clarity, graphics resolution) is better than the other locals as it is. They were hoping to have local HD news this year; not sure if that's still on target.

KPTM can output a locally-originated HD picture since they have the HD sidebars on their newscasts, but have yet to run HD video. (Looks like the TVs may be showing HD in the newsroom, though.)

KETV had some higher priorities so I didn't get the impression it would happen soon; at least not before the analog cut-off date.

KOLN was unlikely to have HD newscasts until 2009, after the analog cut-off date.

No info from either KMTV or KLKN.

Have you checked with KETV lately? They have new news graphics, so I would think it would be KETV,WOWT,KPTM,KMTV.

JoelWNelson
07-06-08, 12:46 PM
Have you checked with KETV lately? They have new news graphics, so I would think it would be KETV,WOWT,KPTM,KMTV.

I just watched KETV news last night and it didn't look like there had been major changes (maybe some slight differences) but the graphics still weren't as sharp as on WOWT. Same overall "crispness" (lack thereof) as on KMTV, KOLN, and KLKN. WOWT almost looks as if they're transmitting HD quality but at the 4:3 resolution (look at the clarity and detail of their graphics on a HD set -- I doubt the difference is that noticeable on a SD set or over analog cable). Appears to be all-digital processing, at least.

Anyone heard anything more recent from KETV?

ajwees41
07-06-08, 10:50 PM
I just watched KETV news last night and it didn't look like there had been major changes (maybe some slight differences) but the graphics still weren't as sharp as on WOWT. Same overall "crispness" (lack thereof) as on KMTV, KOLN, and KLKN. WOWT almost looks as if they're transmitting HD quality but at the 4:3 resolution (look at the clarity and detail of their graphics on a HD set -- I doubt the difference is that noticeable on a SD set or over analog cable). Appears to be all-digital processing, at least.

Anyone heard anything more recent from KETV?

wowt looks the same to me I don't see any changes.

huskers4life
07-10-08, 07:28 PM
i think koln may be close to local hd newscasts...it appears that they already have hd equipment and can output a local HD signal (or least their weather graphics can be overlayed on the hd which is nice without going back to the 4:3 screen like many other stations)

theurge
07-13-08, 01:32 AM
Is KPTM 42.1 and 42.2 OTA, off air? I've been receiving them fine except for the last couple days I have been getting no signal at all.

JoelWNelson
07-15-08, 11:26 PM
They're off the air tonight with the storm... during the All-Star game!. KXVO 15.1 and 15.2 are off too, as well as analog 15 and 42 and analog 18 (Fox) and 51 (CW) in Lincoln. The storm has definitely caused some problems for area Pappas stations.

finalnight
07-15-08, 11:52 PM
Great, first they kept breaking in to coverage, now its gone completely while its tied 3-3 in the 10th!

Sarcoma
07-15-08, 11:53 PM
Yeah, I was a little cheesed at losing the all-star game. But at least that helps to justify KPTM's decisions to run weather updates (and advertisements for the local news) during the game (not between innings, of course, because that time is devoted to advertisements for things other than the local news).

BTW, I haven't seen it posted here, but according to the DishNet (Echostar) WWW site, Lincoln locals in HD were supposed to be coming this month along with the Omaha locals in HD. However, the latest news on their WWW site (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml) is missing both Lincoln and Omaha. I guess I'll be relying on the antenna for a while longer.

Sarc

Ronald L M
07-16-08, 07:49 AM
Yeah, I was a little cheesed at losing the all-star game. But at least that helps to justify KPTM's decisions to run weather updates (and advertisements for the local news) during the game (not between innings, of course, because that time is devoted to advertisements for things other than the local news).

BTW, I haven't seen it posted here, but according to the DishNet (Echostar) WWW site, Lincoln locals in HD were supposed to be coming this month along with the Omaha locals in HD. However, the latest news on their WWW site (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml) is missing both Lincoln and Omaha. I guess I'll be relying on the antenna for a while longer.

Sarc I'm getting really tired of weather overlays taking away hd, why can't the local stations overlay weather warnings without taking the hd away? Dish just launched a new satellite, I'm guessing that when this is up and running they will add the Omaha and Lincoln locals, I would guess 2 to 3 months.

JoelWNelson
07-16-08, 09:23 AM
I'm getting really tired of weather overlays taking away hd, why can't the local stations overlay weather warnings without taking the hd away?
There's some significant cost involved to getting the HD graphics package. KPTM/KXVO had HD graphics for a while but is no longer using them. KOLN/KGIN has a HD graphics package (and was running it last night), and WOWT will be installing one shortly. KETV has a HD crawl overlay instructing viewers to tune to 7.2 or Cox 9. No signs of HD graphics on the other locals.

finalnight
07-16-08, 11:50 AM
well the analog signal came back for the last couple of innings and I was able to catch my boy morneau win it all.

djrich
07-18-08, 03:50 PM
Does anyone know if/when KOLN in Lincoln will start digital TVGOS OTA transmission? I have a Sony DHG-HDD250 (which I love), but when NET channel 12 changes to digitial in 10/08, I'll no longer be able to receive my TVGOS. My understanding is that CBS stations will start to broadcast the TVGOS digital signal. I've tried to contact KOLN in Lincoln, but so far so response.

Ronald L M
07-20-08, 08:15 AM
With the Olympics only a few weeks away,I was reading about NBC hd coverage of the Olympics and to see all the games in Hd you will need other networks other than Nbc, they are USA-hd, CNBC-HD+,NBC Olympic soccer and basketball hd and Lifetime-hd, Cox Omaha only has Lifetime-Hd, I was reading that Cox in Phoenix is adding Usa-hd, CNBC-HD+ and Nbc olympic soccer hd in time for the Olympics, Will Cox in Omaha ? I'm betting not, Just look at Cox in San Diego, Tulsa, OKC, they have 25 percent more hd Omaha, Why????

ajwees41
07-20-08, 06:35 PM
With the Olympics only a few weeks away,I was reading about NBC hd coverage of the Olympics and to see all the games in Hd you will need other networks other than Nbc, they are USA-hd, CNBC-HD+,NBC Olympic soccer and basketball hd and Lifetime-hd, Cox Omaha only has Lifetime-Hd, I was reading that Cox in Phoenix is adding Usa-hd, CNBC-HD+ and Nbc olympic soccer hd in time for the Olympics, Will Cox in Omaha ? I'm betting not, Just look at Cox in San Diego, Tulsa, OKC, they have 25 percent more hd Omaha, Why????

we also have nbchd

we also have universalHD
why would we need Lifetime for the Olympics?

http://www.cox.com/omaha/beijing.asp

Ronald L M
07-20-08, 10:47 PM
we also have nbchd

wealso have universalHD

http://www.cox.com/omaha/beijing.asp

Cox Omaha needs to add Cnbc hd+ and USA hd, currently Cox only carries NBC hd and Universal hd, they need to add the other 2 by 08/08/08.

PAULSTORM
07-21-08, 09:56 AM
Word out of KHAS-NBC-Hastings: Hope to have HD going by the Olympics. They're still waiting on some HD equipment. They won't be "full power" HD until around 12/1/08.

nitty316
07-22-08, 04:48 PM
I've continued to read this thread even though I don't have Cox anymore and it has become crystal clear that I made the correct decision in going with DIRECTV.

-80 Gig hard drive on the DVR, not sure how Big Cox's was, but I can hold a lot more stuff with my DTV DVR.
-MLB package in HD. Something Cox could not offer
-The Royals. They may suck but they are my team and I enjoy watching them.
-WWE in HD. I get USAHD, SCIFIHD and CWHD so I get all the WWE stuff in HD.
-ESPNEWSHD, SPIKEHD (great for UFC), FXHD, MTVHD, all the FSNHD's I can handle, Big 10, NFLHD, NHLHD, etc.
-Will soon be getting ESPNUHD.

Since I left I believe Cox has added 1 HD channel, that being Lifetime.

ajwees41
07-22-08, 05:47 PM
I've continued to read this thread even though I don't have Cox anymore and it has become crystal clear that I made the correct decision in going with DIRECTV.

-80 Gig hard drive on the DVR, not sure how Big Cox's was, but I can hold a lot more stuff with my DTV DVR.
-MLB package in HD. Something Cox could not offer
-The Royals. They may suck but they are my team and I enjoy watching them.
-WWE in HD. I get USAHD, SCIFIHD and CWHD so I get all the WWE stuff in HD.
-ESPNEWSHD, SPIKEHD (great for UFC), FXHD, MTVHD, all the FSNHD's I can handle, Big 10, NFLHD, NHLHD, etc.
-Will soon be getting ESPNUHD.

Since I left I believe Cox has added 1 HD channel, that being Lifetime.


Cox added Lifetime,Starz,Cinemax,Travel all in HD MTVU and MTV Tr3s Standard digital. DVR is 120-160 GB

jonnyozero3
07-22-08, 06:42 PM
Cox added Lifetime,Starz,Cinemax,Travel all in HD MTVU and MTV Tr3s Standard digital. DVR is 120-160 GB

^ +1

I'd go crazy with an 80GB DVR...ugh! That said, I'd sell my firstborn for SciFi HD.

Ronald L M
07-22-08, 08:52 PM
I've continued to read this thread even though I don't have Cox anymore and it has become crystal clear that I made the correct decision in going with DIRECTV.

-80 Gig hard drive on the DVR, not sure how Big Cox's was, but I can hold a lot more stuff with my DTV DVR.
-MLB package in HD. Something Cox could not offer
-The Royals. They may suck but they are my team and I enjoy watching them.
-WWE in HD. I get USAHD, SCIFIHD and CWHD so I get all the WWE stuff in HD.
-ESPNEWSHD, SPIKEHD (great for UFC), FXHD, MTVHD, all the FSNHD's I can handle, Big 10, NFLHD, NHLHD, etc.
-Will soon be getting ESPNUHD.

Since I left I believe Cox has added 1 HD channel, that being Lifetime.

Lucky you! Still trying to talk the wife into Directv, You have clearly made the right choice, Cox is adding hd really slow and they really have no answer to Directv or Dish when it comes to Hd, all they say its coming, well I'm tired of waiting for them to catchup, I'm giving them 30 daysto add about 30 hd channels or I'm jumping to Directv!!!!!!!!!!

SkersR1
07-22-08, 11:37 PM
I've continued to read this thread even though I don't have Cox anymore and it has become crystal clear that I made the correct decision in going with DIRECTV.

-80 Gig hard drive on the DVR, not sure how Big Cox's was, but I can hold a lot more stuff with my DTV DVR.
-MLB package in HD. Something Cox could not offer
-The Royals. They may suck but they are my team and I enjoy watching them.
-WWE in HD. I get USAHD, SCIFIHD and CWHD so I get all the WWE stuff in HD.
-ESPNEWSHD, SPIKEHD (great for UFC), FXHD, MTVHD, all the FSNHD's I can handle, Big 10, NFLHD, NHLHD, etc.
-Will soon be getting ESPNUHD.

Since I left I believe Cox has added 1 HD channel, that being Lifetime.

Which DVR do you have? The HR20/21 should have a 320 GB Hard Drive. My 4 year old Philips SD DVR had an 80GB.

Also all transponders are showing signal on the new Directv sat. Should be just a matter of time for more new channels and locals for Lincoln. :)

someone_here
07-23-08, 01:41 AM
With the Olympics only a few weeks away,I was reading about NBC hd coverage of the Olympics and to see all the games in Hd you will need other networks other than Nbc, they are USA-hd, CNBC-HD+,NBC Olympic soccer and basketball hd and Lifetime-hd, Cox Omaha only has Lifetime-Hd, I was reading that Cox in Phoenix is adding Usa-hd, CNBC-HD+ and Nbc olympic soccer hd in time for the Olympics, Will Cox in Omaha ? I'm betting not, Just look at Cox in San Diego, Tulsa, OKC, they have 25 percent more hd Omaha, Why????

A little birdie says there will be absolutely no problem watching the entire available Olympics footage in HD in Omaha...

^ +1

I'd go crazy with an 80GB DVR...ugh! That said, I'd sell my firstborn for SciFi HD.

That same birdie says you don't have to sell anything here in Omaha...

The goodness shall come in waves...

nitty316
07-23-08, 09:43 AM
Oops, my bad, it has a 320 Gig hard Drive.

All in all, very happy with DIRECTV. Even with the HD channels Andrew Mentioned above, Cox is still way behind and light years behind for a sports/WWE fan.

Very happy and don't regret it one bit. I can't believe I gave Cox all that money for so long for such a inferior product.

nitty316
07-23-08, 09:45 AM
A little birdie says there will be absolutely no problem watching the entire available Olympics footage in HD in Omaha...



That same birdie says you don't have to sell anything here in Omaha...

The goodness shall come in waves...

Now this is good news. When my year is done with DTV, I'll consider going back to Cox because it wounds like USAHD, SCIFIHD etc are all coming. The one major stumbling block I have is getting the sports packages in HD, getting FSNHD, and getting the Fox Sports channels, does the Birdie have any info on those or ESPNUHD for Cox? CBSSports? ETC?

ajwees41
07-23-08, 10:01 AM
A little birdie says there will be absolutely no problem watching the entire available Olympics footage in HD in Omaha...



That same birdie says you don't have to sell anything here in Omaha...

The goodness shall come in waves...


If we are supposed to get the channels by the ollympics in 2 weeks I haven't seen any anouncement.

ajwees41
07-23-08, 11:45 AM
Oops, my bad, it has a 320 Gig hard Drive.

All in all, very happy with DIRECTV. Even with the HD channels Andrew Mentioned above, Cox is still way behind and light years behind for a sports/WWE fan.

Very happy and don't regret it one bit. I can't believe I gave Cox all that money for so long for such a inferior product.

nitty you are forgetting Mynetwork will carry Smackdown and our local station as far as I can tell doesn't do HD.

nitty316
07-23-08, 11:55 AM
Yup, that's my main issue right now. Luckily I've found that Smackdown is generally all uploaded to Youtube the next day. Not ideal, but I'll deal with it until DTV gets it resolved.

ajwees41
07-23-08, 12:51 PM
Yup, that's my main issue right now. Luckily I've found that Smackdown is generally all uploaded to Youtube the next day. Not ideal, but I'll deal with it until DTV gets it resolved.

they will most likely have to wait like cox until the local mynetwork can do hd unless they can pull the national feed of my network hd if there is one.

ajwees41
07-23-08, 09:49 PM
nitty why would we need Lifetime for the Olympics?

ajwees41
07-24-08, 09:05 AM
Looks like we got USAHD,SCIHD,CNBCHD over the night,

nitty316
07-24-08, 09:28 AM
Looks like we got USAHD,SCIHD,CNBCHD over the night,

That's good news, in case I do go back.

someone_here
07-24-08, 10:06 AM
Now this is good news. When my year is done with DTV, I'll consider going back to Cox because it wounds like USAHD, SCIFIHD etc are all coming. The one major stumbling block I have is getting the sports packages in HD, getting FSNHD, and getting the Fox Sports channels, does the Birdie have any info on those or ESPNUHD for Cox? CBSSports? ETC?

The birdie was unsure when confronted with that question, as he didn't have any solid information...

The goodness shall come in waves...

ajwees41
07-24-08, 10:09 AM
The birdie was unsure when confronted with that question, as he didn't have any solid information...

The goodness shall come in waves...

Are you sure they said SciFi not Science because that just launched last night?

someone_here
07-24-08, 11:25 AM
Are you sure they said SciFi not Science because that just launched last night?

The birdie assures multiple networks starting SCI will be available...

suretytek
07-24-08, 05:36 PM
I just got off the phone with a tech support guy at Cox. He told me that they just got several e-mails regarding new HD channels. I should have written them down, but he did mention SciFiHD, NFL Network HD, Bravo HD, AMC HD, and the addition of two temporary channels, 706 and 707 for alternate Olympics feeds. I think there were a couple more, but those were the big ones that stuck out to me. The timeframe for the additions was the next 2-3 weeks, so it sounds like we'll have some new HD stuff to watch soon.

Ronald L M
07-24-08, 06:36 PM
Great to have some new hd channels. Still waiting on FSN-HD?

jonnyozero3
07-24-08, 06:47 PM
Sweet!! SciFiHd? This made my day.

ajwees41
07-24-08, 07:21 PM
I just got off the phone with a tech support guy at Cox. He told me that they just got several e-mails regarding new HD channels. I should have written them down, but he did mention SciFiHD, NFL Network HD, Bravo HD, AMC HD, and the addition of two temporary channels, 706 and 707 for alternate Olympics feeds. I think there were a couple more, but those were the big ones that stuck out to me. The timeframe for the additions was the next 2-3 weeks, so it sounds like we'll have some new HD stuff to watch soon.

suretytek do the ones I mentioned as launching last night sound like any he mentioned or are they different.

ScottChez
07-24-08, 08:48 PM
Sounds like Cox is adding more HD, competition is good.

DirecTV just announced 130 national full time HD channels by the end of the year on a TV Commercial. Dish is at about 100 national HD.

This competition is causing all 3 providers to keep adding more and more HD as fast as they can.

"I just got off the phone with a tech support guy at Cox. He told me that they just got several e-mails regarding new HD channels. I should have written them down, but he did mention SciFiHD, NFL Network HD, Bravo HD, AMC HD, and the addition of two temporary channels, 706 and 707 for alternate Olympics feeds. I think there were a couple more, but those were the big ones that stuck out to me. The timeframe for the additions was the next 2-3 weeks, so it sounds like we'll have some new HD stuff to watch soon.

ajwees41
07-24-08, 09:00 PM
Sounds like Cox is adding more HD, competition is good.

DirecTV just announced 130 national full time HD channels by the end of the year on a TV Commercial. Dish is at about 100 national HD.

This competition is causing all 3 providers to keep adding more and more HD as fast as they can.

"I just got off the phone with a tech support guy at Cox. He told me that they just got several e-mails regarding new HD channels. I should have written them down, but he did mention SciFiHD, NFL Network HD, Bravo HD, AMC HD, and the addition of two temporary channels, 706 and 707 for alternate Olympics feeds. I think there were a couple more, but those were the big ones that stuck out to me. The timeframe for the additions was the next 2-3 weeks, so it sounds like we'll have some new HD stuff to watch soon.


scott out of the 130 how many does cox carry in standard definition?

suretytek
07-25-08, 09:04 AM
ajwees41,

I was talking to him about an issue I had with the new channels just launched as well as an issue with Max HD. While we were wrapping up the conversation, I asked him if he had any info on new channels and that's when he said "oh yeah, we just got some e-mails on when we're launching new HD channels." So no, there shouldn't be overlap between what launched a couple of days ago and what I posted.

ajwees41
07-25-08, 11:18 AM
Iowa PBS HD anyone have new info as to when Cox will carry it?

ScottChez
07-27-08, 12:11 PM
"scott out of the 130 how many does cox carry in standard definition?"

Right now they have 100 HD, the new sat should go live next week where they will add the other 30 for a total of 130 by the end of the year. Then there 3rd sat will go up so they can get 200 national HD channels.

Looks like Cox carries all but 5 in SD.

Basically DirecTV is trying for all SD channels in HD at no extra charge. Cox does a similar "at no extra charge" model,but they dont have the extra HD channels as it would cost Cox more since they dont have an HD extra pack yet.

The channels that not not normally in the SD package are in an HD extra pack for about $5 more a month (like HD Net, HD Net movies, Universal HD ect . . .)


All these new HD channels additions mean all 3 providers will be adding more HD channels to keep up. This is good for everyone.

ajwees41
07-27-08, 01:19 PM
"scott out of the 130 how many does cox carry in standard definition?"

Right now they have 100 HD, the new sat should go live next week where they will add the other 30 for a total of 130 by the end of the year. Then there 3rd sat will go up so they can get 200 national HD channels.

Looks like Cox carries all but 5 in SD.

Basically DirecTV is trying for all SD channels in HD at no extra charge. Cox does a similar "at no extra charge" model,but they dont have the extra HD channels as it would cost Cox more since they dont have an HD extra pack yet.

The channels that not not normally in the SD package are in an HD extra pack for about $5 more a month (like HD Net, HD Net movies, Universal HD ect . . .)


All these new HD channels additions mean all 3 providers will be adding more HD channels to keep up. This is good for everyone.

Cox has Universal HD as a free channel while DirecTV charges extra how interesting.

ScottChez
07-27-08, 03:20 PM
Just a different pricing model. Cox has all HD free but less HD and a little higher basic charge.

DirecTV has there model where if they already have an SD channel then the HD is free with there goal of all SD also being in HD.

If there is NO matching SD channel its in the HD extra pack which is like a movie channel package at about $5 a month.
Cox seems to make up for the extra cost changed by universal HD by adding a dollar to everyones basic pack.

The 3 competitors do tricks in there packages like this making it hard to compare apples to apples. You almost need a spreadsheet to compare.

ajwees41
07-27-08, 04:04 PM
it looks like the cox upgrades are done according to the commercials that say the 3800 miles of cable has been upgraded.

DevoX
07-27-08, 06:19 PM
Anyone know what has happened to WOWT?

On their evening news, they said they are unable to broadcast in HDTV. They did not provide any reason that I could hear. Just that their "HDTV broadcast" was "effected"...

I noticed this morning that 6-1's signal was 480i and not 1080i, and the image was 4:3.

ajwees41
07-27-08, 06:39 PM
WOWT 6.2 is also offair.

Trip in VA
07-27-08, 07:10 PM
Almost sounds like they lost their encoder. Might be piping in an SD feed off the microwave directly into the transmitter.

- Trip

ajwees41
07-27-08, 07:54 PM
3-4 days till more HD if they add them on Thursday.

ScottChez
07-28-08, 10:57 PM
Rumor has it that

WOWT was messing with there encoder trying to get a 3rd digtal sub channel on the air in time for the Olympics coverage. Our PBS can do 3 channels at once, they thought they could do it also. Turns out they had there wrong type of encoder. Something went wrong.

finalnight
07-29-08, 02:45 AM
Rumor has it that

WOWT was messing with there encoder trying to get a 3rd digtal sub channel on the air in time for the Olympics coverage. Our PBS can do 3 channels at once, they thought they could do it also. Turns out they had there wrong type of encoder. Something went wrong.

I assume WeatherPLUS will be on 6.3 then?

Trip in VA
07-29-08, 07:21 AM
Not necessarily. Could have just as easily have been Universal Sports for the Olympics or something like that.

- Trip

Ronald L M
07-29-08, 07:29 AM
Rumor has it that

WOWT was messing with there encoder trying to get a 3rd digtal sub channel on the air in time for the Olympics coverage. Our PBS can do 3 channels at once, they thought they could do it also. Turns out they had there wrong type of encoder. Something went wrong.

Hopefully they will not add another sub-channel,if they do, I bet Wowt-hd picture quality is going to suffer.

ajwees41
07-29-08, 09:30 AM
SciFiHD,BravoHD,PlanetGreenHD launched overnight on cox.

Although SciFiHD launched the guide listings are missed up as they list PlanetGreenHD programs also on SciFiHD.

PAULSTORM
07-29-08, 10:49 AM
This just in & straight from the horse's mouth:

http://dtv.client.shareholder.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=324647

DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, continues to strengthen its HD presence with the addition of 44 new HD local channel markets. By the end of 2008, DIRECTV will provide local HD broadcast channels in 121 cities, representing more than 88 percent of U.S. TV households. DIRECTV will begin the rollout of the new HD local markets in August and continue through the end of the year. The new markets include:

-- Lincoln-Hastings, Neb.

KnightShade
07-29-08, 02:10 PM
SciFiHD,BravoHD,PlanetGreenHD launched overnight on cox.

Although SciFiHD launched the guide listings are missed up as they list PlanetGreenHD programs also on SciFiHD.

Cool, do you know what channel numbers those are on?

Gary Omaha
07-29-08, 02:17 PM
I want to publicly say that I appreciate Cox's additional HD channels. But I cannot understand if there is any rhyme or reason to the channels they are being assigned to. Most do not relate to their analog counterpart channel numbers on the lower Cox tier. Some, but not all, are grouped according to subject. It seems to me that they're throwing channels up there, willy-nilly. Nice to have the new channels, but frustrating to try to find something without continually scanning the guide (which, by adding the new channels, is getting longer and longer to do).

Ronald L M
07-29-08, 04:45 PM
Good news Cox has added more Hd. I'm hoping they will soon add FSN-Hd, NFL-Hd, Weatherchannel-HD, MHD.

ajwees41
07-29-08, 05:58 PM
Good news Cox has added more Hd. I'm hoping they will soon add FSN-Hd, NFL-Hd, Weatherchannel-HD, MHD.

well NFL and MHD were being tested. So they should be added soon. I expect the same reason money as to why no FSNHD, or FSNKC.

ajwees41
07-29-08, 06:09 PM
Cool, do you know what channel numbers those are on? Current Omaha Cox HD Lineup


705 KMTV HD (CBS Affiliate)
708 WOWT (NBC Affiliate)
709 KETV HD (ABC Affiliate)
710 KPTM HD (FOX Affiliate)
711 KXVO HD (CW Affiliate)
712 NETV HD (PBS Affiliate)
720 CNN HD
722 CNBC HD
735 ESPN HD
736 ESPN 2 HD
747 VERSUS/GOLF HD
755 TBS HD
756 TNT HD
757 Universal HD
759 USAHD
775 Food Network HD
776 HGTV HD
777 Travel Channel HD
778 Planet Green HD
780 Lifetime HD
790 Animal Planet HD
810 National Geographic HD
811 Discovery Theater HD
812 Discovery Channel HD
813 TLC HD
814 History Channel HD
816 Science HD
820 MOJO HD
821 A&E HD
855 SciFiHD
856 Bravo HD
880 HBO HD^
885 Cinemax HD^
890 Showtime HD^
895 STARZ! HD^

Ronald L M
07-29-08, 06:44 PM
If Cox Omaha is not carrying FSN-HD due to money, I'm wondering why many other cities that have Cox, also have FSN-hd? with football season about a month away it time to start calling Cox! WE WANT FSN-HD!!!!

ajwees41
07-29-08, 06:59 PM
If Cox Omaha is not carrying FSN-HD due to money, I'm wondering why many other cities that have Cox, also have FSN-hd? with football season about a month away it time to start calling Cox! WE WANT FSN-HD!!!!

No I meant maybe Fox is using FSNHD and FSNKC in our area as a bragining chip and Omaha can't get one without the other just my opinion.

RLM5150
07-30-08, 03:37 PM
I heard a radio ad this morning on Z92 for Cox. They were advertising NFL Network and mentioned NFL-HD.

rlwetzel
07-30-08, 06:09 PM
Add I heard said NFLHD would be added 8/23.

ScottChez
07-30-08, 08:47 PM
So comparing apples to apples since Dish and DirecTV do not count Local HDs for the HD channel counts, since only DirecTV has local HDs on the sat

Cox now has 29 full time HD channels if you dont count the local HDs? Dish and DirecTV both have 100 HD full time with DirecTV advertisings 130 by this fall.

Is this correct?

Does cox still plan to have 100 HD channels to match the compedition by the end of the year or was that a rumor that I heard on an other board?

ajwees41
07-30-08, 09:23 PM
So comparing apples to apples since Dish and DirecTV do not count Local HDs for the HD channel counts, since only DirecTV has local HDs on the sat

Cox now has 29 full time HD channels if you dont count the local HDs? Dish and DirecTV both have 100 HD full time with DirecTV advertisings 130 by this fall.

Is this correct?

Does cox still plan to have 100 HD channels to match the compedition by the end of the year or was that a rumor that I heard on an other board?

last I heard was 80-100 if agreements are signed.

ajwees41
07-30-08, 09:24 PM
Add I heard said NFLHD would be added 8/23.

When is cox adding 706,707 for olympics?

Ronald L M
07-30-08, 11:15 PM
Add I heard said NFLHD would be added 8/23.

8/23 for the NFL network-HD? I hope it sooner because the Nfl network is showing a ton of preseason games in hd.

ScottChez
07-31-08, 09:30 AM
Update:

Competition is good.

Today Dish just announced 150 national HD channels by the end of the year to up DirecTV 130 this fall.

They also said in Aug they will have upgraded there boxes to do 1080p like Blue Ray quality.

Directv will soon match with 150 this year also and then 200 next year, and cox will probably up to 150 soon next year to keep up.

JoelWNelson
07-31-08, 07:34 PM
Just saw this on KLKN's website.

IMPORTANT VIEWER ADVISORY for DISH Network Subscribers

Channel 8 KLKN-TV and the DISHnet satellite service are negotiating a new satellite service carriage agreement. If you are a DISH Network subscriber and a new agreement is not reached, you will not be able to receive Channel 8 KLKN-TV and its programs from the DISH service after July 31.

Channel 8 KLKN-TV will, of course, continue to be available to you free, over the air from the station or by cable or DirecTV. Channel 8 KLKN-TV will keep you fully informed of the progress of the negotiations.

For more information contact Roger Moody, V.P./General Manager 402.435-2235 or email at rmoody@klkntv.com or Jeff Swanson, Director of Broadcast Operations 402-436-2238, or jwanson@klkntv.com .

JoelWNelson
08-01-08, 09:36 AM
Viewer Update – Channel 8 KLKN-TV on DISH Network

This is an update for those viewers who subscribe to the Dish Network and are no longer receiving ABC and local programming, including your local news, weather and sports information from Channel 8 KLKN-TV in Lincoln. Regrettably, our attempt to negotiate a fair, reasonable and equitable re-transmission agreement with the Dish Network has come to an impasse.

Our request to the Dish Network is really quiet simple and fair. We've asked them to fairly compensate us for the re-distribution of our on-air programming. This is totally consistent with the carriage fees Dish pays other broadcasting affiliated TV stations. Additionally, our request is only a very small fraction of what is already being paid to other program providers who have no local ties to our community. Over the past several years we've very successfully negotiated dozens of these agreements without any major difficulty.

At Channel 8 KLKN-TV, we value and respect all of our viewers. We will diligently work to successfully resolve this issue. In the meantime, we will continue to provide all of our viewers the outstanding ABC network programming along with your local news and syndicated programming that you've come to expect from our station.

Dish Network subscribers should know that Channel 8 KLKN-TV is available to you free over the air, by cable or by Direct TV.

We will, of course, keep you updated on the progress of our negotiations.

For more information contact:

Jeff Swanson Roger Moody

Director of Broadcast Operations Vice-President/General Manager

402.436.2238 402.436-2235

Or by email: Or by email:

jswanson@klkntv.com rmoody@klkntv.com

HiDefHusker
08-01-08, 01:15 PM
DirecTV has there model where if they already have an SD channel then the HD is free with there goal of all SD also being in HD.

"Free" if you have the $9.99 "HD Access" package.