I'm good friends with Jon Schuetz's son, so I asked Jon point blank about when KETV is planning to do the local newscasts in HD. He said he's been rattling the engineer's cages, but Hearst-Argyle has no plans to move them to HD until spring 2009 at the earliest. Economy affects them just like everyone else, apparently.

the tower collapsing couldn't have helped. I bet if it didnt't they would have been first.

So, over the weekend it appears Omaha lost a TV station.

Can't seem to find any news on the subject, but the most recent article suggested that Pappas and their TuVision division was running out of time. They were to sell off 13 stations by the end of the year but their asking prices were making that impossible.

The hammer must have come down from the bankruptcy court and KAZO didn’t make it. A look at the tuvision.com’s website now shows KAZO and KAZJ grayed out, and the words “coming soon” as if new owners were afoot.

Since all the local news agencies are oddly mum on the issue, wondering if anyone here knows the scoop.

the tower collapsing couldn't have helped. I bet if it didnt't they would have been first.
True, but jeez....that was what? 5 years ago? It shouldn't have set them back that far, should it? If anything I would hope it would jumpstart them since it's all brand new equipment.

True, but jeez....that was what? 5 years ago? It shouldn't have set them back that far, should it? If anything I would hope it would jumpstart them since it's all brand new equipment.

They might have added costs where they could justify the cost to upgrade the studio and tower at the same time who knows just guessing.

KAZO and KAZJ are grayed out because they don't have websites (and never have). TuVision's website has been "coming soon" ever since it was launched.

15.2 is carrying Azteca America programming. At the top of the hour someone came on to explain that Azteca America is now carried on KAZO, instead of TuVision, but my Spanish isn't good enough to understand everything he said. Not sure if analog 57 is on the air or not.

cox new hd live plus MTV Jams MTV2 still on 61.

Do channels 761 and 762 (Lifetime Movie Network HD and Hallmark Movies HD) require a separate subscription? I'm checking out the new channels and both of those two have a screen saying I need to call 933-3000 to order.

Do channels 761 and 762 (Lifetime Movie Network HD and Hallmark Movies HD) require a separate subscription? I'm checking out the new channels and both of those two have a screen saying I need to call 933-3000 to order.

they work on mine, but we have 3 tiers of digital cable. MTV2 is still on 61, but if you punch in 266 it goes to it but it's not in the guide yet. I would call cox and see what they say about 761,762

I would imagine since Lifetime Movie Network and the Hallmark Channel are on one of the three digital tiers you need to subscribe to, if you don't have that tier ordered you won't receive the HD versions of those channels. If I didn't subscribe to the sports and info tier I'm sure I wouldn't be able to receive NFL Network in HD.

Cox Total Connection Bundle

Cox just started offering $10 off CHSI Preferred and Premier to customers who have the Total Connection bundle, but since we already have the free premium we don't get the $10 off. But there is no mention of only one discount on the web.

Did I miss something, all of the new HD channels on cox work for me, but FSNHD is still the test pattern. What is the deal?

I would imagine since Lifetime Movie Network and the Hallmark Channel are on one of the three digital tiers you need to subscribe to, if you don't have that tier ordered you won't receive the HD versions of those channels. If I didn't subscribe to the sports and info tier I'm sure I wouldn't be able to receive NFL Network in HD.

I get NFL Network HD and Versus-Golf HD despite not subscribing to the tier that has NFL Network and Versus...

Did I miss something, all of the new HD channels on cox work for me, but FSNHD is still the test pattern. What is the deal?

FSNHD isn't a full-time channel, apparently. It's only on when there's HD programming available, such as a football game. Does anyone know if what we have on 745 is national FSN HD or if it's FSNKCHD?

FSNHD isn't a full-time channel, apparently. It's only on when there's HD programming available, such as a football game. Does anyone know if what we have on 745 is national FSN HD or if it's FSNKCHD?

I have noticed that some of the new channels don't have many programs broadcast in HD, so I ask what is the point? I am sure more programs are on the way though.

I have noticed that some of the new channels don't have many programs broadcast in HD, so I ask what is the point? I am sure more programs are on the way though.

the main point is the channels are free they don't cost extra unlike HDNet and HDNet Movies

Lost Mojo HD:cool:

Nice Cox added hd, but where is the Weather channel-Hd, Fox news-Hd,Disney-HD, EspnU-HD and Espnnews-HD. Three of the hd channels Cox just added do not seen to have anything in hd, they are Mtv-hd, Vh1-hd, Cmt-hd.

I read online that FSN is planning to broadcast all programming in HD by the end of 1Q in 2009. The catch is, it is up to each cable operator or satellite provider to decide whether or not to broadcast all the content or to only broadcast limited content - this deals with bandwith issues. Anyone know if Cox is going to open it up when FSN does next year, or will they remain off the air and only broadcast game action in HD?

I read online that FSN is planning to broadcast all programming in HD by the end of 1Q in 2009. The catch is, it is up to each cable operator or satellite provider to decide whether or not to broadcast all the content or to only broadcast limited content - this deals with bandwith issues. Anyone know if Cox is going to open it up when FSN does next year, or will they remain off the air and only broadcast game action in HD?

who knows maybe that's one of the reasons it took so long for cox Omaha to add it.

Nice Cox added hd, but where is the Weather channel-Hd, Fox news-Hd,Disney-HD, EspnU-HD and Espnnews-HD. Three of the hd channels Cox just added do not seen to have anything in hd, they are Mtv-hd, Vh1-hd, Cmt-hd.

who knows this group of hd that was added probably had contracts with Omaha before the 1Ghz upgrade was done.

FSNHD isn't a full-time channel, apparently. It's only on when there's HD programming available, such as a football game. Does anyone know if what we have on 745 is national FSN HD or if it's FSNKCHD?

It's FSNHD FSNMW cox doesn't want to pay the extra fee for the whole KC game package. We Don't get FSNKC.

Is the game on FSN HD now on Cox? If so whatever the upper corner says, tells you what feed it is, ex. FSMidwest.

Is the game on FSN HD now on Cox? If so whatever the upper corner says, tells you what feed it is, ex. FSMidwest.

It's FSNMW not FSNKC (since cox does not want to pay for the whole KC royals package)

It will only be FSNKC if Cox buys any KCRoyals baseball games next season.

Well the Texas Tech-A&M game is in HD on FSNHD.

This is old news but I saw that Gray Television is equipping 21 stations, including KOLN and WOWT, with HD electronic news gathering equipment.

http://broadcastengineering.com/eng/gray_television_equips_21_0423/
WOWT is running a commercial showing their old set in a 16:9 aspect ratio, and promoting their "new look" in November.

WOWT is running a commercial showing their old set in a 16:9 aspect ratio, and promoting their "new look" in November.

I've long thought they'd be first with local HD in Omaha. Now if they'd just fix the periodic spelling errors on their graphics... and some certain pronunciations (http://omanews.blogspot.com/)...

Are the local stations that are broadcasting in HD in both the Lincoln & Omaha market transmitting in 1080p or 720p?

Also, is Directv's HD programming 1080p?


Thanks

I don't think ANYBODY is broadcasting in 1080p; the only 1080p programming I'm aware of is BluRay discs.

KETV-7 and KPTM-42 broadcast in 720p. KMTV-3, WOWT-6, and KYNE-26 all broadcast in 1080i, as does the Iowa PBS station on 32. I don't think I've tuned to KXVO-15 enough to know what they broadcast in.

So, over the weekend it appears Omaha lost a TV station.

Can't seem to find any news on the subject, but the most recent article suggested that Pappas and their TuVision division was running out of time. They were to sell off 13 stations by the end of the year but their asking prices were making that impossible.

The hammer must have come down from the bankruptcy court and KAZO didn’t make it. A look at the tuvision.com’s website now shows KAZO and KAZJ grayed out, and the words “coming soon” as if new owners were afoot.

Since all the local news agencies are oddly mum on the issue, wondering if anyone here knows the scoop.

Finally found information on Pappas (although not KAZO directly), and boy is it good news for the other two stations.

http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2008/09/24/daily.7/

What began as an effort to help Pappas Telecasting reorganize and pay off its heavy debt burden ended up bringing down the company's founder.

On Sept. 10, Walsh approved a Fortress $5 million financing and set specific deadlines for the sale of stations. Under that order, Pappas Telecasting has until February 15, 2009, to sell 13 stations.

They include KMPH Fresno-Visalia, Calif. (Fox); KFRE Fresno-Visalia, Calif. (CW); KPTM Omaha, Neb. (Fox); KXVO Omaha, Neb. (CW); WCWG Greensboro-Winston-Salem-Highpoint, N.C. (CW); KPTH Sioux City, Iowa (Fox); KMEG CBS, Sioux City, Iowa (CBS); KTNC San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, Calif. (TuVision); KAZH Houston (TuVision); KDBC El Paso, Texas (CBS); KREN Reno, Nev. (CW); KAZR Reno, Nev. (TuVision); KCWK Yakima-Pasco-Richland, Wash. (CW).

Last week, E. Roger Williams, the bankruptcy trustee, put KREN—the Reno, Nevada, station Pappas was running out of a shopping mall—under contract to Spanish-language station group Entravision Communications Corp. for $4 million. The deal also includes several low-power stations.

Maybe someone who gives a damn will buy KPTM and KXVO.

So it appears that Pappas is hanging on to their Central NE properties... NTV as well as "KWPL" (cable-only North Platte CW) and LMA Fox 4&17 and KCWL. These stations are absent in any record of Pappas bankruptcy proceedings.

I've long thought they'd be first with local HD in Omaha. Now if they'd just fix the periodic spelling errors on their graphics... and some certain pronunciations (http://omanews.blogspot.com/)...

I just got funny looks from my coworkers after laughing out loud at that link. So true...especially the "Cliché stories" list on the side. Great link!

[taps mic] Is this thing on? No dish customers on here rejoicing? Oh, yeah, they're too busy watching TV in HD... What channels is dish providing in HD?

Press Release: Dish Network Expands Local High Definition Markets

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Current DISH Network customers looking to add the industry’s best high definition experience can get a “turbo-charged” HD package for as little as $10 more per month.

For more information about DISH Network’s 1080p programming, new HD channels and TurboHD system and packages, visit www.dishnetwork.com or call 1-800-333-DISH (3474).


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Well kinda...the only channel I get on Dish Local HD is KLKN...but I have to install an additional third dish to get it because it's on another freaking satellite. My contract has expired so if I want to have the 3rd additional dish installed without extending my contract, I have to pay about 60 bucks. Or just renew my contract and I can get it for free. For right now, KLKN is the best channel I can get OTA, so I'm gonna hold off on the additional dish. The gal I talked to on the phone at Dish said that once the other channels start rolling in, they may show up on the satellites that my two dish devices currently point at. Sure hoping so anyway.

This doesn't directly pertain to HDTV or even digital television (yet), but since Pappas Telecasting and TuVision had been brought up... TuVision is gone in Lincoln. KWAZ-LP 35 has flipped from TuVision to relaying KTVG (Fox).

Wow, that's pretty lame... Dish advertises launching Lincoln with only one HD channel? When D* launched, at least they had the big 3...

I am having problems with poor reception of Fox HD OTA on my mediacenter. Sometimes it will be fine for a little while and then it will start freezing up. Can I use any old signal amplifier to improve the signal from the antenna or do I need a special one for OTA HDTV? Anyone have any recommendations?

This doesn't directly pertain to HDTV or even digital television (yet), but since Pappas Telecasting and TuVision had been brought up... TuVision is gone in Lincoln. KWAZ-LP 35 has flipped from TuVision to relaying KTVG (Fox).

In Omaha, 15.2 IDs as Azteca America KXVO-DT 15.2 and KMEG-DT 14.2.

KAZO-LP 57 appears to be off the air. I'm also no longer getting KKAZ-CA 24.

One of the Azteca America ID screens actually has the call letters as "MXVO". Whoops.

Cox is carrying the national Azteca America feed on channel 407. OTA 15.2 isn't/hasn't been carried on Cox.

copied from http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/08/cox_communications_getting_into_the_wireless_business-2.html#comments


EugeniaPolar bear
Posted 12:36 PM 20/8/08
First of all I work for Cox in Omaha, the svc is fine, the upgrades are going on schedule that is why we are able to provide you guys with the faster net speeds and more HD channels. What you don't understand is that even though dish claims to have 1000 hd channels not all of them show hd content 24/7. Cox does not want to mislead our customers and provide a channel, that won't guarantee them all hd all the time. More speed increases are coming we will be the fastest net provider in Omaha, along with more HD channels, but we are stuck on how much to charge the customer. We offer all of our HD channels for free and some providers want to charge us for their hd content. We do not want to pass the buck to our customers so eat as much of he charges as we can, then we evaluate how much we want to pass on to you. You should quit being so ungrateful because we are at the forefront of Cox. There are other systems that are way behind us. Cell phones are coming and they will allow the control and live streaming on to them, we are offering a service like T-Mobile where, the wifi does not count towards cell minutes. Be patient the upgrades are 4 months from being done and, when they finish we will see thu2way, and SDV, and speed cresting 50mb upload. We just have to work out prices.

EugeniaPolar bear

hey guys. i live in bellevue, and can't seem to get HDTV reception from the local stations. can anyone else get them? i do live in a building that is practically sheetmetal, sometimes i get the stations, depends on the weather most of the time.

do you recommend an HD antenna and if so which one?

are most of you guys using dish network or cox? i would like to know since i'll be moving soon.

Cox does not want to mislead our customers and provide a channel, that won't guarantee them all hd all the time.

Um, point of order. Stretching a SD picture to fill the screen does not a full-time HD channel make. I see plenty of non-HD content on Cox HD channels.

Um, point of order. Stretching a SD picture to fill the screen does not a full-time HD channel make. I see plenty of non-HD content on Cox HD channels.

I think the point in Omaha is adding HD as free while other cox cox locations have a couple hd's in a $4.95 tier. While they might not be full HD yet they most likely will be in the future.

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EugeniaPolar bear
Posted 12:36 PM 20/8/08
What you don't understand is that even though dish claims to have 1000 hd channels not all of them show hd content 24/7. Cox does not want to mislead our customers and provide a channel, that won't guarantee them all hd all the time.
EugeniaPolar bear

Next Point or Order... Show me Something, Anything that has had Dish or Direct clamining 1000 HD channels. I would guess this is a Typo but to the uniformed reader this is VERY misleading.

Next Point or Order... Show me Something, Anything that has had Dish or Direct clamining 1000 HD channels. I would guess this is a Typo but to the uniformed reader this is VERY misleading.

He was probally typing fast or just mispoke what reall got interested is what he said the updates are comming along and should be finished in a few months that seems to be about the same time frame I got from Kristen Peck.

hey guys. i live in bellevue, and can't seem to get HDTV reception from the local stations. can anyone else get them? i do live in a building that is practically sheetmetal, sometimes i get the stations, depends on the weather most of the time.

do you recommend an HD antenna and if so which one?

are most of you guys using dish network or cox? i would like to know since i'll be moving soon.

I live in Bellevue near 25th & Fairview and can pickup all of the Omaha HD locals except Iowa PBS channels OTA with a powered set top antenna which is inside of a cabinet out of sight. I also have DirecTV which provides the locals as well.

EdL

I'm out in ralston and having a hell of a time getting fox (42.1) in at all OTA. Mounting a roof unit isn't in the cards right now, so i'm looking at getting an indoor unit that'll catch that fox affiliate that's damn near 180 degrees from the other stations. help?

I'm out in ralston and having a hell of a time getting fox (42.1) in at all OTA. Mounting a roof unit isn't in the cards right now, so i'm looking at getting an indoor unit that'll catch that fox affiliate that's damn near 180 degrees from the other stations. help?

I've heard a lot of good about this one... some find it even more effective than the oft-recommended Silver Sensor:
http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Low-Profile-Indoor-Antenna-TV5/dp/B000069106

I'm in Ralston too (ponderosa). I bought a terrestrial digital DB8 (try solidsignal.com) and put it in the attic of the upper part of our house. I have a signal meter that I could check it with while I was up there and it turned out that just using half of it in the north side of the attic was just as good for fox and better for everything else so I left it like that. Fox has been fine for a long time until the last 2 or 3 weeks it has been freezing up on me. Not sure if it is the weather or what. I think I am going to try an amplifier and see if that helps.

I've heard a lot of good about this one... some find it even more effective than the oft-recommended Silver Sensor:
http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Low-Profile-Indoor-Antenna-TV5/dp/B000069106

I've tried the TV5 and the silver sensor. I think the silver sensor works a little better but is more directional. The terk has a built in amp which helps.

WOWT's new set to debut Thursday at 10

KETV to air Iowa and Iowa State foot ball on saturday Iowa will be on 7.2 and cox 123

KETV to air Iowa and Iowa State foot ball on saturday Iowa will be on 7.2 and cox 123

Wrong

Iowa will be on 7.1 and over the air. It will be in HD. the Big 12 game will be on 7.2, typically their all weather chanel.

While I was VERY interested to see that ABC is permitting multicasting of two different games, I'm kinda questioning their wisdom in programming...

1. Iowa State/Ok State should not be televised anywhere except Boone Pickens' living room. I guess they figured they hadn't given OSU enough love for being a Top 10 team, but this game should be over in the 1st quarter. Sorry, Cyclone fans.

2. A more worthy occasion for ABC to allow multicasting would have been Sept. 28, when Ark/Texas got postponed to the same day as Colo/Fla St. Much of Big 12 country was not able to watch the more exciting CU/FSU game until Texas really piled it on in and ABC switched coverage. But I suppose this decision was due to the overlapping "home" stations for the Hawkeyes and Cyclones, and the whole Big 12 conference area did not count as Texas' and Colorado's "home" stations.

While I was VERY interested to see that ABC is permitting multicasting of two different games, I'm kinda questioning their wisdom in programming...

1. Iowa State/Ok State should not be televised anywhere except Boone Pickens' living room. I guess they figured they hadn't given OSU enough love for being a Top 10 team, but this game should be over in the 1st quarter. Sorry, Cyclone fans.

2. A more worthy occasion for ABC to allow multicasting would have been Sept. 28, when Ark/Texas got postponed to the same day as Colo/Fla St. Much of Big 12 country was not able to watch the more exciting CU/FSU game until Texas really piled it on in and ABC switched coverage. But I suppose this decision was due to the overlapping "home" stations for the Hawkeyes and Cyclones, and the whole Big 12 conference area did not count as Texas' and Colorado's "home" stations.


I think they do it up to the local affliates which game they show.

I live in Bellevue near 25th & Fairview and can pickup all of the Omaha HD locals except Iowa PBS channels OTA with a powered set top antenna which is inside of a cabinet out of sight. I also have DirecTV which provides the locals as well.

EdL

Is that perhaps on a hill? I know around 25th and 370. There are hills around there.

I suppose this is the reason why i don't have good reception...no line of sight

WOWT's new set to debut Thursday at 10

Looks like they updated their graphics, too.

That new set sure does look nice, but I want some local HD action. I got spoiled living down in Kansas City.

^^
Just posted almost the same thing. The graphics are nice but don't even seem quite as HD-ready as the last set. And I'm really disappointed in the lack of local HD... would have thought a new set would be a good excuse for starting up the local HD. Maybe KETV will be first next spring...

It should not take four weeks just to build a new set. I figured -- and still think -- that 6 was also updating control room equipment and other peripherals, hopefully to HD-ready. I, too, was very disappointed when the nice-looking new set was unveiled in SD format, although with 6's higher resolution. I'm hoping that they still have more to unveil.

^^
Just posted almost the same thing. The graphics are nice but don't even seem quite as HD-ready as the last set. And I'm really disappointed in the lack of local HD... would have thought a new set would be a good excuse for starting up the local HD. Maybe KETV will be first next spring...

;)

Is that perhaps on a hill? I know around 25th and 370. There are hills around there.

Yeah, I am on the high side.

EdL

"Anything that has had Dish or Direct clamining 1000 HD channels. I would guess this is a Typo but to the uniformed reader this is VERY misleading."

Actually DirecTV already has 1000 HD channels, but they are all Local HDs by using there SPOT Beam transponders. Spot beams only cover 1-2 states each.

DirecTV and Dish have BOTH said they will have 150 national HD by the end of the year. Right now they both have have about 130 if you count all the regional sports and PPV HD.

DirecTV has said 200 national HD next year when there 3rd new sat goes up. I am sure Dish will also keep up with there new Sat.

Trends are cable is running about a year behind in the HD counts but they will also catch up next year also is my guess.

Nebraska Kansas on PPV next week

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=1616551

I just called Time Warner here in Lincoln they said they are adding Disney HD, HGTV HD, National Geo HD, Versus HD and maybe another one I can't remember. They should be added in December. I really wish we could get Discovery HD, that's all I really want, well that and SciFi HD.

I just called Time Warner here in Lincoln they said they are adding Disney HD, HGTV HD, National Geo HD, Versus HD and maybe another one I can't remember. They should be added in December. I really wish we could get Discovery HD, that's all I really want, well that and SciFi HD.

How many total will that give Lincoln? Cox Omaha still plans 60 by the end of this year and 100 by the end of 2009.

How many total will that give Lincoln? Cox Omaha still plans 60 by the end of this year and 100 by the end of 2009.

I think it would make it something like 26 with 4 of those being a extra fee a month because they the movie channels. I would love to have 60 HD channels.

Once again! The only Omaha channels using HD graphics to show local election results.

One would have to think KETV is close to doing local news in HD. I would throw KPTM in the running but their owner just filed for bankruptcy so i doubt they would be a good candidate.

As for WOWT, well you can polish a turd but it's still a turd, or in their case build a new set...:rolleyes:

Is my feed messed up? I'm seeing that KETV in HD looks like it's zoomed....parts of the image are cropped and not visible on the screen...I can't even see the "7" on the KETV logo....

I check all the settings I could find too....ugh...

Is my feed messed up? I'm seeing that KETV in HD looks like it's zoomed....parts of the image are cropped and not visible on the screen...I can't even see the "7" on the KETV logo....

I check all the settings I could find too....ugh...

mine is fine with KETVHD through cox HD/DVR 709

mine is fine with KETVHD through cox HD/DVR 709

Doh...thanks for that though. Mine is a direct feed from the RF coax to the tuner in my KD-34XS955. Weird.

Doh...thanks for that though. Mine is a direct feed from the RF coax to the tuner in my KD-34XS955. Weird.

is that the only channel that is missed up?

I'm getting KETV HD tonight. The commercial was in KETVHD.

is that the only channel that is missed up?

Okay, I just checked on my PJ downstairs...it's definitely a huge amount of overscan on my upstairs TV....don't know why. Another weird thing is, I've only noticed it on that channel...must be elsewhere and I just haven't noticed. Odd.

KETV 7.1 is now running HD sidebars during Judge Judy. Looks similar to KPTM's blue HD sidebars, though more subdued/refined.

Does anyone know if you pay the 11.99 for DVR service on each DVR if you had multiple or only on the 1st one?

Does anyone know if you pay the 11.99 for DVR service on each DVR if you had multiple or only on the 1st one?

you pay per dvr so if you have 2 it would be 2($5.25) and 2($11.99) charged to your account.:mad:

I found a website that lists the clear QAM - www_omahahdtv_com

Change the '_' to '.'
I couldn't post this as a url because this is my first post

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EugeniaPolar bear
Posted 12:36 PM 20/8/08
First of all I work for Cox in Omaha, the svc is fine, the upgrades are going on schedule that is why we are able to provide you guys with the faster net speeds and more HD channels. What you don't understand is that even though dish claims to have 1000 hd channels not all of them show hd content 24/7. Cox does not want to mislead our customers and provide a channel, that won't guarantee them all hd all the time. More speed increases are coming we will be the fastest net provider in Omaha, along with more HD channels, but we are stuck on how much to charge the customer. We offer all of our HD channels for free and some providers want to charge us for their hd content. We do not want to pass the buck to our customers so eat as much of he charges as we can, then we evaluate how much we want to pass on to you. You should quit being so ungrateful because we are at the forefront of Cox. There are other systems that are way behind us. Cell phones are coming and they will allow the control and live streaming on to them, we are offering a service like T-Mobile where, the wifi does not count towards cell minutes. Be patient the upgrades are 4 months from being done and, when they finish we will see thu2way, and SDV, and speed cresting 50mb upload. We just have to work out prices.

EugeniaPolar bear

I know that Cox has plenty of HD channels but can you explain why the picture quality sucks. As you add more channels I see more and more pixelation. Is this something that can be fixed??

I know that Cox has plenty of HD channels but can you explain why the picture quality sucks. As you add more channels I see more and more pixelation. Is this something that can be fixed??

what kind of cox equipment do you have? I have no problems. Customer wit a 3416 DVR

I know that Cox has plenty of HD channels but can you explain why the picture quality sucks. As you add more channels I see more and more pixelation. Is this something that can be fixed??

If you haven't done so recently, call Cox and ask for a technician to come out, and have the tech tighten all your connections and check for older splitters. We had all sorts of pixelation and a thorough service call took care of most of it. Apparently a loose connection can really raise havok.

anyone hear or see any new info on cox adding new hd before the end of 2008?

I found a website that lists the clear QAM - www_omahahdtv_com

Change the '_' to '.'
I couldn't post this as a url because this is my first post

Nice! That's just what I needed...thank you!

Edit - got the major channels figured out now...some of mine I'm sure about differed from his list though. I think he has some of his QAM and ATSC mixed up

Huskers on PPV next week also

anyone hear or see any new info on cox adding new hd before 2008?

No, but the Omaha World Herald had a notice in the Midlands section saying that effective Nov. 10 the NBA Preview Pass channel is going bye-bye and they're splitting up Versus HD/Golf HD into two separate channels. No other word. Hopefully this means they'll add a few channels before the end of the year. :D

No, but the Omaha World Herald had a notice in the Midlands section saying that effective Nov. 10 the NBA Preview Pass channel is going bye-bye and they're splitting up Versus HD/Golf HD into two separate channels. No other word. Hopefully this means they'll add a few channels before the end of the year. :D

what day was it in the paper?

what day was it in the paper?

Saturday's paper, right next to the obits. Little boxed in item like they did when they announced the added channels in October.

Saturday's paper, right next to the obits. Little boxed in item like they did when they announced the added channels in October.

thanks what's odd is the NBA League Pass channel are already gone and the Game10 is already in the guide.

thanks what's odd is the NBA League Pass channel are already gone and the Game10 is already in the guide.

Yeah, what is that Game 10? I'm assuming it's another PPV or ESPN plan channel?

Wonder if they're going to add NHL-HD since they added the dig channel in October...

Seemed odd to have that announcement about stuff going away without an announcement about adding anything. It's interesting they're splittling Versus and Golf. Outside of hockey, they haven't really had much HD on Versus - at least the football games haven't been in HD. Maybe that will change when the split occurs.

Yeah, what is that Game 10? I'm assuming it's another PPV or ESPN plan channel?

Wonder if they're going to add NHL-HD since they added the dig channel in October...

Seemed odd to have that announcement about stuff going away without an announcement about adding anything. It's interesting they're splittling Versus and Golf. Outside of hockey, they haven't really had much HD on Versus - at least the football games haven't been in HD. Maybe that will change when the split occurs.


The split I think will be good come next year since Versus can have football (bowl game) on day or night so we should not miss any games. Actually Comcast is the one splitting since I think they own both. I wonder also why they didn't announce new channels. the split will take one spot while we are still waiting on AMCHD and ComedyHD.

Per the GM on today's NTV's Good Life, NTV/Fox 4 & 17 hope to be passing HD signal the week of Thanksgiving...starts talking about HD a minute in:

http://www.nebraska.tv/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3123623&h1=NTV%27s%20General%20Manager%20Discusses%20HD%20TV&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=305334&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=22164057

Any word on Omaha picking up the newly announced Cox HD channels?

Any word on Omaha picking up the newly announced Cox HD channels?
what channels where mentioned?

they can't even launch AMCHD or ComedyHD yet, so I say no. I think we will be stuck until 2009.

Yea those channels in addition to the split of VS./Golf HD.

And when we will get GameHD and PPVHD?

Yea those channels in addition to the split of VS./Golf HD.

And when we will get GameHD and PPVHD?

the versus golf split was mentioned in the paper to be split December 8th GolfHD on 747 VersusHD on 748.

I also just noticed Chiller will be added on November 25th 0n channel 249.

the versus golf split was mentioned in the paper to be split December 8th GolfHD on 747 VersusHD on 748.

I also just noticed Chiller will be added on November 25th 0n channel 249.

I talked to someone at Cox (don't have the name or extension) who said that I'll continue to get Golf HD on 747 but won't get Versus on 748 as I don't have the Sports/Info tier. However, I'm getting NFL Network on 740 despite not having that tier, so I'm waiting to see what really happens...

I talked to someone at Cox (don't have the name or extension) who said that I'll continue to get Golf HD on 747 but won't get Versus on 748 as I don't have the Sports/Info tier. However, I'm getting NFL Network on 740 despite not having that tier, so I'm waiting to see what really happens...

check 747 when versus programming is on. My sister gets Versus/Golf HD only when golf channel programming is on since the only have expanded basic with a dvr. on the nfl do you get the non hd version also? Might be something wrong with your account.

check 747 when versus programming is on. My sister gets Versus/Golf HD only when golf channel programming is on since the only have expanded basic with a dvr. on the nfl do you get the non hd version also? Might be something wrong with your account.

I don't subscribe to the tier that has the non-HD version of NFL (and thus, I don't get the non-HD version). I do get the Versus HD programming on 747 though.

I don't subscribe to the tier that has the non-HD version of NFL (and thus, I don't get the non-HD version). I do get the Versus HD programming on 747 though.

I bet they have your account missed up.

Has anybody noticed a substantial problem with audio sync with the QAM reception from Cox?
NBC seems to be the worst.

NBC is the worst.

I bet they have your account missed up.

Well, if it's a mess-up, I'll take it as long as I can.

Here's a Cox Omaha channel lineup that I made. It shows where the HD channels map to the other tiers. It includes the pending split of Golf/Versus HD and the coming Chiller channel. It doesn't include any digital premium or Spanish channels.

Here's a Cox Omaha channel lineup that I made. It shows where the HD channels map to the other tiers. It includes the pending split of Golf/Versus HD and the coming Chiller channel. It doesn't include any digital premium or Spanish channels.

Here is a pdf of the whole lineup I made in October

MLB Network anyone see anything on MLB Network launching in December?

AMCHD to finally launch on December 30th

also more to launch before the end of the quarter when ever that is.

MLB Network will launch on Cox, Comcast, Time Warner, and DirecTV on January 1st.

MLB Network will launch on Cox, Comcast, Time Warner, and DirecTV on January 1st.

Comcast is saying it will lauch in December http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21409296-mlb-network-coming-december-1st

http://mlb.mlb.com/network/index.jsp

They say January 1st, 2009.

http://www.nebraska.tv/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?clipId1=3172641&at1=News&vt1=v&h1=NTV+is+Thankful+for+Our+Viewers&d1=282667&redirUrl=www.nebraska.tv&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage&clipFormat=flv&rnd=85457165

NTV GM sez ABC HD equipment is installed & HD signal is being tested. Engineers to arrive today (11/25). If all goes well, OTA viewers should be able to watch NU-CU game in HD. Currently sending an HD signal to Charter & hope to have HD there soon. No update on Fox 4/17-HD.

HD info starts at 1:10

Edit for update: NTV's OTA signal had an HD pic tonite (11/25). Sounds like they're still working on the audio.

Let me apologize in advance if this question has already been posted. I've been following this thread off and on and don't recall seeing this question asked in here. I'm wondering what is going to happen in February when the analog signal is turned off and digital moves to the actual channel location instead of remapping. Will signal strengths and coverage areas increase from current levels? Or are we going to be "stuck" with the quality and coverage we currently get? At least in analog one can expect to get a better signal from VHF channels than UHF and I realize that in digital you either get the channel or you don't but it just seems as if the UHF (digital) signals of the VHF (analog) channels in the Lincoln and Omaha area aren't reaching the same homes that the analog signals were reaching. I'm hoping it will improve with the transition.

NebrGuy, check out www.tvfool.com. There you can compare signal strengths and channel assignments pre- and post- transition, or at least what the broadcasters claimed in their FCC license applications. I'm thinking most situations will stay the same, but some may get better.

Just an update for people with Echostar (DishNet) service. KLKN-HD is now available! But there's a catch. In their infinite wisdom, Echostar has placed the Lincoln local HD channel on their 61.5 degree satellite. Most of us don't have a dish pointing that way. But the good news is, DISH will send an installer (coming on Friday for me) to install an additional dish and switches so I can get the new Lincoln HD channels as they come on-line.

Sorry if this was answered previously. Doas anyone know if any station in area is braodcasting Digital TVGOS?
Thanks

I'm wondering what is going to happen in February when the analog signal is turned off and digital moves to the actual channel location instead of remapping.

That will only affect the Lincoln channels as the Omaha channels are staying on the current channel assignments. So far, KUON-DT has already moved from channel 40 to channel 12 (their analog is gone) and from the little testing I've done in Omaha, Gretna, and Lincoln, I'd say the signal was better on 40. It's harder to get on channel 12. Because of that I don't have high hopes for the moves to channels 8 and 10 in February, and it will be especially interesting to find out what happens Monday with channel 5 in Hastings when they shut off analog and move their digital signal to 5.

It may be that the stations which opt to transmit their digital signal on the VHF band will have to apply for power upgrades to still reach their old digital area. People who already bought good UHF antennas for digital TV in areas that are going VHF will find their new antenna to be inadequate and have to go out and get one that can also receive VHF. Some of the antennas on the market that are said to be great for HDTV reception are actually UHF-only, so I foresee some confused and surprised viewers!

In Omaha a UHF antenna is all that's needed, but after February of next year Lincoln viewers will need both VHF and UHF -- VHF for 8, 10, and 12, and UHF for getting channel 51 (CW), the Omaha stations, and also the Fox repeaters which will be moving to channels 47 and/or 49.

Cox Add's 3 SD along with AMCHD on December 30th

200 Fox Business Channel
227 MLB Network
253 WE
758 AMCHD

So much for 60-80HD by the end of the year.


I thought MLB Network wanted to be in the Sports tier just like NFL, but even though it's on 227 it's listed as a digital plus tier channel.

Here's a Cox Omaha channel lineup that I made. It shows where the HD channels map to the other tiers. It includes the pending split of Golf/Versus HD and the coming Chiller channel. It doesn't include any digital premium or Spanish channels.

HiDef did you type everything or scan a lineup card and add the HD channels?

HiDef did you type everything or scan a lineup card and add the HD channels?

Imported into Excel from the online channel lineup and manually reorganized.

On the NBC HD channel does anyone have a white line that goes from top to bottom on the left side? Because mine does and no other channel has this problem.

On the NBC HD channel does anyone have a white line that goes from top to bottom on the left side? Because mine does and no other channel has this problem.

My Cox DVR on channel 708 has no white line.

Any speculation on whether Cox will start utilizing QAM for more digital channels (other than re-broadcasting OTA signals)?

Any speculation on whether Cox will start utilizing QAM for more digital channels (other than re-broadcasting OTA signals)?



They are adding 3 SD and 1 HD on December 30th.

Not sure how long it's been live, but KLKN's subchannel is now carrying the Retro Television Network. It was also added to Time Warner channel 82.

Any speculation on whether Cox will start utilizing QAM for more digital channels (other than re-broadcasting OTA signals)?

They are adding 3 SD and 1 HD on December 30th.

I also just discovered Palladia (channel 120.3) when I recently did a scan. I haven't watched much of it but it looks to be a music channel - a lot of live stuff. I looked it up and it looks like it was formerly MHD. Looks like an MTV thing.

it will be especially interesting to find out what happens Monday with channel 5 in Hastings when they shut off analog and move their digital signal to 5.

Can anyone confirm if KHAS has turned off analog 5 yet? I read on their website that it was delayed due to high winds, so the new DTV facility on 5 may not be ready until late tonight.

http://new.khastv.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=15443&storytopic=4

I agree about the VHF/UHF concerns. Many believe that DTV is UHF only. In a few areas (such as Omaha), that is true. However, most of the country will have at least one VHF station and from some of the VHF results I've seen, maybe it would have been better to be UHF only.

Low-VHF, however, takes it to another level. Will even 45kW be enough?

Can anyone confirm if KHAS has turned off analog 5 yet? I read on their website that it was delayed due to high winds, so the new DTV facility on 5 may not be ready until late tonight.

http://new.khastv.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=15443&storytopic=4


Yes, analog 5 went off the air a few minutes after the 6:00 news. They said the conversion work would take 4+ hours.

Brian

I also just discovered Palladia (channel 120.3) when I recently did a scan. I haven't watched much of it but it looks to be a music channel - a lot of live stuff. I looked it up and it looks like it was formerly MHD. Looks like an MTV thing.

It was MHD a mix of MTV,CMT, and VH1

I've been wondering how my XG-91 is going to pick up channel 5! I guess I'll find out soon. Thank goodness for DirecTV.

KHGI has a sub channel showing up as 13-2 but right now the call letters say KTVG-DT. Just a color test screen right now.

No HD for KTVG yet.

Also, getting KLKN-DT 8.2 tonight. On the Gary Lee Robbins Show they just welcomed Des Moines IA, Lincoln NE and Davenport IA affiliates.

Anyone know how much a cablecard it to rent from Cox? I plan on getting a TivoHD when I switch to Cox in a month.

Not sure how long it's been live, but KLKN's subchannel is now carrying the Retro Television Network. It was also added to Time Warner channel 82.

It went live today.

KHGI has a sub channel showing up as 13-2 but right now the call letters say KTVG-DT. Just a color test screen right now.

I heard that KHGI and KWNB were to pick up KCWL (51) on a digital subchannel, but not sure how reliable that rumor was.

Someone updated the Wikipedia article on KHAS to indicate that KHAS carries NBC WeatherPlus on the DT2 subchannel. I've never heard anything about that before, so is that in error or is it coming soon?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHAS-TV

Doesn't really matter since WeatherPlus is going away on 12/31.

Has KHAS-DT moved to channel 5 yet?

- Trip

KHAS just switched to channel 5 frequency - my XG91 is not liking it. Can't get a picture but can get the station ID and program data. Just before the switch I was getting the 1.35kW signal @ 40 miles (channel 21) at around 85%. Now I'm only getting a 5% signal even though the power was boosted to 45 kW.

Just what we needed here in the windiest corridor in the nation - big TV antennas. Hoak Media = boneheads.

In Omaha a UHF antenna is all that's needed.


Hi, I am actually in Gainesville FL market but a friend in Omaha was curious what she might get on rabbit ears after the transition. Any ideas?

KHAS just switched to channel 5 frequency - my XG91 is not liking it. Can't get a picture but can get the station ID and program data. Just before the switch I was getting the 1.35kW signal @ 40 miles (channel 21) at around 85%. Now I'm only getting a 5% signal even though the power was boosted to 45 kW.

Just what we needed here in the windiest corridor in the nation - big TV antennas. Hoak Media = boneheads.

As I noted in eastern Nebraska -- VHF digital = disaster. KUON (dig. 12) is now very difficult to get in Lincoln with an indoor antenna. Even in Gretna, actually closer to the KUON/Lincoln tower than Lincoln is, there was quite a bit of breakup (with a VHF-compatible antenna) when I tested at a family member's house, which is near one of the highest points in the county.

Wonder how long it will take for broadcasters to realize this is a bad idea and re-apply for UHF licenses.

Hi, I am actually in Gainesville FL market but a friend in Omaha was curious what she might get on rabbit ears after the transition. Any ideas?

It's been posted here a few times, but around Omaha one should be able to get:
CBS 3.1, NBC 6.1, Universal Sports Net 6.2, ABC 7.1, AccuWeather 7.2, CW 15.1, Azteca 15.2, PBS HD / NET-1 26.1, NET-2 26.2, Create 26.3, PBS HD / IPTV 32.1, IPTV SD 32.2, Create 32.3, Fox 42.1, AmericaOne / MyNet 42.2.
Plus maybe the Lincoln channels if in the west part of the Omaha area, and high enough in elevation.

Just a suggestion, if anyone's having trouble getting KHAS-DT over the air after their move to DTV channel 5, call them at 1-877-655-4455 and let them know that you previously got channel 21 (or analog 5) but can't get them now.

From what I've heard, all the VHF stations in the Tri-Cities plan to broadcast their digital signal on their current VHF channel, i.e. 11 on 11, 13 on 13, and now 5 on 5. This isn't looking good.

Also, KSNB (Fox/Superior) has a petition to move to 4 vs. 34 and to run 4 at 4.4kW. It was adopted by NPRM and may be ordered by the FCC soon.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-08-2234A1.pdf

KLKN and KOLN are also going to be moving back to VHF 8 and 10, respectively, though both received approval for power increases at 25.9 & 28kW vs. 17.8 & 18.4kW. Will it be enough?

I doubt it.

I had this discussion with Piggie in the Gainesville thread, we basically concluded that before all is said and done, upper-VHF (7-13) stations will get a big power increase because the power levels they're being given simply aren't enough. (KUON has an application to increase their power from 13 kW to 75 kW, which might help the problems there)

Low-VHF (2-6) is unusable at any power level as far as I'm concerned.

- Trip

It's been posted here a few times, but around Omaha one should be able to get:
CBS 3.1, NBC 6.1, Universal Sports Net 6.2, ABC 7.1, AccuWeather 7.2, CW 15.1, Azteca 15.2, PBS HD / NET-1 26.1, NET-2 26.2, Create 26.3, PBS HD / IPTV 32.1, IPTV SD 32.2, Create 32.3, Fox 42.1, AmericaOne / MyNet 42.2.
Plus maybe the Lincoln channels if in the west part of the Omaha area, and high enough in elevation.

I'd like to respecfully list a "caveat" on that, Joel. You list your location as Old Mill so you may have a better shot at 42 and 15. I'm somewhat east of there and can only occasionally receive 42 and 15 OTA with an indoor antenna. I am in direct sight of the Crown Point towers so get the other commercials fine, along with Omaha's PBS signal on 26 and Iowa's PBS signals on 32 and 36. But as for KTPM/KXVO, nope. Just thought I'd point this out to our Gainsville friend. :)

I'd like to respecfully list a "caveat" on that, Joel. You list your location as Old Mill so you may have a better shot at 42 and 15. I'm somewhat east of there and can only occasionally receive 42 and 15 OTA with an indoor antenna. I am in direct sight of the Crown Point towers so get the other commercials fine, along with Omaha's PBS signal on 26 and Iowa's PBS signals on 32 and 36. But as for KTPM/KXVO, nope. Just thought I'd point this out to our Gainsville friend. :)

I actually am in the same position with 15 and 42, and rarely get 26, 32, or 36 either, due to being in a valley just north of Old Mill. So my list includes the channels which can *theoretically* be received in Omaha, but not without exception. 3, 6, and 7 (digital) seem to be the only "reliable" signals. I'm only a few miles west of the transmitter for 26 but terrain and multipath result in terrible signal quality so the receiver won't lock it in.

I'm hoping that eventually channels 24 and 57 (future digital 23 and 34, I guess) will be repeaters for 42 and 15, respectively, like they once were (only now including subchannels). I'd rather have better reception of Fox HD and CW HD than have 24.1 be MyNetwork TV HD, for example.

Thanks! That was exactly the up to date information I needed for my friend. I figured somewhere in all the pages the info was there. Seems I did get up to date info also so, Thank you, thank you! I also seems Omaha is staying on UHF.

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As Trip points out we discussed high band VHF in general is under powered. In every thread I have read with 5 to 15 KW VHF HB (high band) their real range is much less then their FCC contour. I was in broadcasting for 20 years and know a lot of the local chiefs. They all agree, in particular the ones on VHF they aren't running enough power, so the engineering staffs know they are under powered The best thing to do is write, email, call the station, so they have a log of viewers input.

I wonder why they didn't start with enough, other than to protect current analog stations?

Which brings up what is enough? Of course it changes with channel, tower, terrain, protection, but there is a pattern I am seeing. Anyone above 50KW is not getting complaints like those below that. I don’t know of any stations between 15 and about 50KW, so where between that is enough power. There are three VHF digitals near me, and there are more factors but the only one I see is 81 miles away, WESH, running 55KW. The terrain is flatter to be than the digitals from Jacksonville, FL, but I see their analogs and the digitals at 15KW don’t even wiggle my meter.

I would venture to say, any HB VHF station that is up high, wants to cover some area, needs to be at 100KW, just like the analog days.

Thanks again for your input! And I totally agree with Trip, VHF low (2-6) is a total disaster on digital due to electrical interference and what is called Sporadic E (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporadic_E) skip.

Any speculation on whether Cox will start utilizing QAM for more digital channels (other than re-broadcasting OTA signals)?

Interesting. Here's Cox's response...

I know of no plans to start using QAM tuning for any of our channels. These are frequency channels and are picked up thru air waves. You can receive some channels that we broadcast but you do not get this thru our signal. In order to receive our channels you would need to have our service and a receiver for upper channels. If there is anything else that we can do for you, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Interesting. Here's Cox's response...

I know of no plans to start using QAM tuning for any of our channels. These are frequency channels and are picked up thru air waves. You can receive some channels that we broadcast but you do not get this thru our signal. In order to receive our channels you would need to have our service and a receiver for upper channels. If there is anything else that we can do for you, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Qam is how the digital cable channels are sent to the cable boxes. What are you looking for exactly?

KUON (dig. 12), I can now get it on the DirecTV HD DVR, they updated there channel mapping and guide data after the switch. Took long enough. Hope the delay does not happen in Feb for the cut offs.

I get dig 12 not as good as when it was on UHF of course, hope this boost the power someday.

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1278932&Service=DS&Form_id=911&Facility_id=66589

That didn't take long. I haven't had a chance to pick through it yet, but KUON has asked to boost from 13 kW to 44 kW immediately.

- Trip

I was finally able to get my DirecTV HR20 DVR rescanned to receive KHAS DT 5 today. To my surprise I was able to lock on to it 40 miles away with my UHF only XG-91. I'm at 32 ft above ground level using RG11 plus Winegard 8700 preamp. (medium power)
Photo below
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=77204&d=1173367917

The signal level stays around 50% both night and day but that's more than I was expecting. There are some audio/video dropouts and pixelization but it is certainly watchable. It would seem that if you had even an outdoor high band VHF antenna you might be in luck at this distance. The terrain between the transmitter and me is fairly flat although I'm in a wide, shallow valley. There is also a rise in elevation of over 200 feet to my house.

I also tried using a Radio Shack all channel antenna in the attic and barely got a blip on the signal meter. Then I tried a Radio shack FM antenna I had lying around and was unable to get much inside with it either. Once I took it outside and got it up to around ten feet above ground level it began to receive a signal.

My conclusion is that at 40 miles the 45kW signal does not go through walls very well at all. At that power level you will need to be outside with a good view of the horizon to get adequate reception. Hopefully they will boost their power like KUON will do. I would think they would want to make it as easy as possible for viewers to see their station so they can support their advertisers.

45 kW is the maximum amount of power KHAS-DT is allowed to have on channel 5. There are no power boosts in KHAS's future.

- Trip

I think these VHF broadcasters are hoping that folks still have giant VHF antennas on towers. I guess that might be true for a lot of OTA viewers (think farmers who can't get cable).

Anyone know how much a cablecard it to rent from Cox? I plan on getting a TivoHD when I switch to Cox in a month.

I think it's $1.99/card/month plus $50 for install.

:eek:Suprise Cox couldn't get the contracts done for 60 HD by the end of 08.:mad::eek:

I was finally able to get my DirecTV HR20 DVR rescanned to receive KHAS DT 5 today. To my surprise I was able to lock on to it 40 miles away with my UHF only XG-91. I'm at 32 ft above ground level using RG11 plus Winegard 8700 preamp. (medium power)
Photo below
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=77204&d=1173367917

The signal level stays around 50% both night and day but that's more than I was expecting. There are some audio/video dropouts and pixelization but it is certainly watchable. It would seem that if you had even an outdoor high band VHF antenna you might be in luck at this distance. The terrain between the transmitter and me is fairly flat although I'm in a wide, shallow valley. There is also a rise in elevation of over 200 feet to my house.

I also tried using a Radio Shack all channel antenna in the attic and barely got a blip on the signal meter. Then I tried a Radio shack FM antenna I had lying around and was unable to get much inside with it either. Once I took it outside and got it up to around ten feet above ground level it began to receive a signal.

My conclusion is that at 40 miles the 45kW signal does not go through walls very well at all. At that power level you will need to be outside with a good view of the horizon to get adequate reception. Hopefully they will boost their power like KUON will do. I would think they would want to make it as easy as possible for viewers to see their station so they can support their advertisers.

Hey Cornhustlr, I may be able to take credit for us being able to tune into 5-1 on our HR-20. I had a 42 minute call w/ a Tech Rep Tues eve and had to explain what had happened w/ 5 now broadcasting their dig signal on Ch 5. He said he was going to email the techs to "download" something to "my" box. I wondered why he wasn't going to just have their techs verify w/ KHAS that they moved the dig sig to Ch 5 and maybe they did. I'm getting around 90% signal strength w/ my batwing antenna.

I also explained that there is now a 13-2 w/ color bars. He said that w/in the next 3 days that would show up on my guide, too via download like 5-1 tuning to Ch 5 instead of Ch 21. I've yet to see that happen.

Apparently w/ our HR20's we have to wait for Directv to tell our boxes to look for these stations at certain channels...is that correct?

I like Directv for carrying the most HD stations and getting our local HD's on quicker than Dish but I'm frustrated by the boxes not being able to search for local OTA digital signals. The Dish box did if there was a 13-2 or 11.2, it would show up in the guide w/out waiting for a download from on high. But, to Directv's credit, Dish would refuse to put guide info for 11.1 and 11.2 even though it was the same programming as 10.1 and 10.2. Overall, Directv has treated me better I would have to say. Just wish they would give us easier access to stations that may add a subchannel on their digital signal.

Apparently w/ our HR20's we have to wait for Directv to tell our boxes to look for these stations at certain channels...is that correct?
As far as I know that is correct.

Your antenna is VHF/UHF but mine is UHF only so that's probably why I'm seeing occasional dropouts. It's not a big deal as I can get it via the dish. My KHAS feed from DirecTV has an audio dropout about 4-5 times / hour.....wish they would get that cleared up.

I have a USDTV box that I can use to find local or out of market signals but agree that the DirecTV boxes should be able to search for local signals.

I noticed DirectV did not add 8-2 yet either but they just started broadcasting that on Tuesday.

Thanks.

:eek:Suprise Cox couldn't get the contracts done for 60 HD by the end of 08.:mad::eek:

My shock is....overwhelming :rolleyes:

Anyone have ideas on who to write to about revoking Cox's franchise rights?

My shock is....overwhelming :rolleyes:

Anyone have ideas on who to write to about revoking Cox's franchise rights?

the city of Omaha why would you revoke them atlesat we are getting channels

the only thing is if we could complain and say we were promised the 60, but that info came in an email and not was not listed on a web page. Hopefully things will change after the first of the year since the EON upgrades should be done by then.

45 kW is the maximum amount of power KHAS-DT is allowed to have on channel 5. There are no power boosts in KHAS's future.

- Trip

To me if they want to use their old Ch5 equipment they are penny wise and pound foolish. They had CH21, which is a great UHF freq. From my DXing of Orlando FL, the channels (all in the same place, about the same height) finds those below 30 have a lot more range than those above 30, and the lower the better.

"Apparently w/ our HR20's we have to wait for Directv to tell our boxes to look for these stations at certain channels...is that correct?"

Yes that is correct, sometimes you have to call the TV station to remind them to call DirecTV to update there ZIP code list, plus DirecTV then needs to call Tribune media to update the guide data (direcTV out sources the guide data).

To me if they want to use their old Ch5 equipment they are penny wise and pound foolish. They had CH21, which is a great UHF freq. From my DXing of Orlando FL, the channels (all in the same place, about the same height) finds those below 30 have a lot more range than those above 30, and the lower the better.

I emailed, wrote them letters and talked to the GM on the phone but the owners were set on using channel 5. Sadly they have a sister station that is going back to channel 2 in North Platte. The old low band TV antennas around here have not fared well in the wind and ice storms. If you choose to put one in your attic you cut your signal in half and are more subject to interference not to mention lightning (Apr.- Sep). If you want to see a typical storm here watch "Storm Chasers" tomorrow on Discovery HD.

Has anything changed with the KETV over the air digital broadcasts. I have two TV's hooked to the same antenna and this is hooked the same way since I got the second TV. Over the last two - three weeks I have had a lot of dropouts on 7.1 and 7.2 One TV is worse than the other but they both do it. Big issue tonight trying to watch the Big 12 champ game and I did a rescan and the digital signals do not even show up. By the way, I am in Gretna.

Sadly they have a sister station that is going back to channel 2 in North Platte. The old low band TV antennas around here have not fared well in the wind and ice storms. If you want to see a typical storm here watch "Storm Chasers" tomorrow on Discovery HD.

I have seen those specials, nasty and I will take our hurricanes anyday. At least we are warned 3 days in advance and more if you watch them yourself on the tracking sights. I would not trade hurricanes for tornadoes or earthquakes or even blizzards.

The low band antenna here always bend a back (long low band) element within the first year or so. If not a hurricane or near miss, just one good thunderstorm or even birds. It's always the low band elements that get messed up. That is what is so sweet about running one of the HB/UHF antennas or just separate U and HB VHF antenna like I do.

I can't even imagine digital on Ch2, that is beyond insane. We have a 2 and a 3 analog around here for decades and I have never seen one without electrical interference at anyone's house (more so back before cable when everyone had an outside antenna).

There is such a difference between low and high band VHF, its day and night. Actually with the right power I would rather be on HB VHF if I were a station owner.

You would have to dig out maps to see this, but I am 81 miles north of what we call in Florida as the Bithlo tower farm. It's about 30 miles east of Orlando, or about half way from Orlando to the Cape (rocket place). It was made nationally famous when WFTV's tower at 1500 some feet collapsed, sadly with people on it. They removed the wrong bolt, ouch. But since those days they have built about half a dozen towers down there most about 900 meters up. Nice. So me being 81 miles north of them puts me in a good position to compare their transmissions. The best signals I get from that tower farm are high band and watchable. I even get my NBC from them (WESH 55KW on 11.1). There is a 9 (WFTV) that pounds in here watchable most of the time. Their low band, you can see it but it's not usually watchable. And the UHF is only there during enhance prorogation and I usually see the lowest channels first and if the opening gets stronger the upper channels start coming in.

I have DXed TV and Ham Radio all my life (ham on 144-148 below ch7) and 220-225 above ch13), also 420-450 MHz which is right under ch14. There is no doubt that the ham 220MHz band skips the best, though 144MHz is more popular, hence more stations on it. The same on TV. Channels 7-13 always come in the best, followed by 14 through about 30.

Now back in the solar peak of the 70's and one in the late 80's low band TV was fun to DX over enormous distance. Mexico and one day the skip lasted a long long time. I actually saw TV and FM out of Nebraska and Oklahoma. I even talked to a guy on 146.520MHz in Oklahoma that day and we were only running 25 Watts each and we both had a whip like you see on a car at both ends. But that is also the problem with lowband DTV besides electrical.

Good luck guys. I have my own issues here being between 2 NBC stations, so far neither of which has been promising, but I won't know until the analogs are off the air.

It's interesting comparing the "what should be" on antennaweb.org to "what actually is". My parents are east/southeast of KC, Missouri. On analog they get ch. 4, 5, 6, and 9. 6 is PBS out of Sedalia about 36 miles away and is listed as the only post-transition station they will receive. The other channels are all out of KC with a range of 62 to 68 miles. They have never been able to get NBC which is on ch. 41.

What they actually get in the form of digital signals now are channels 15 (PBS), ch 7 (ABC/analog 9) and ch 51 (ION) which is next to its analog ch at 50. ION and NBC digital (ch 42) are within 1/2 mile of each other. One would think when comparing an independent and a major national network that you would get NBC before ION.

From my place here at 40th & A in Lincoln, I pick up digital channels 3, 8, 10, 15, and 42. Nothing for WOWT or for Lincoln's PBS station. This is using rabbit ears on the box. KLKN is listed on Antennaweb as requiring a "blue" level antenna. There is an antenna on the roof that came with the house, but isn't hooked to anything. I'm curious if I would be able to lock in NBC, Omaha ABC and PBS if I used it.

This is a list of HD channels I just emailed to cox if everyone will also email maybe we will see more HD sooner than later.

Comedy HD
E! HD
ESPNU HD
ESPN News HD
Fox Business HD
Fox News HD
FX HD
Game (NHL/MLB) HD
NHL Network HD
Speed HD
WE HD
Weather HD
The HD version of channel 121 (MyNetwork TV)

This is a list of HD channels I just emailed to cox if everyone will also email maybe we will see more HD sooner than later.

Comedy HD
E! HD
ESPNU HD
ESPN News HD
Fox Business HD
Fox News HD
FX HD
Game (NHL/MLB) HD
NHL Network HD
Speed HD
WE HD
Weather HD
The HD version of channel 121 (MyNetwork TV)
I'm game. Which email address did you use? I've emailed them before and have never received a reply.

From my place here at 40th & A in Lincoln, I pick up digital channels 3, 8, 10, 15, and 42. Nothing for WOWT or for Lincoln's PBS station. This is using rabbit ears on the box. KLKN is listed on Antennaweb as requiring a "blue" level antenna. There is an antenna on the roof that came with the house, but isn't hooked to anything. I'm curious if I would be able to lock in NBC, Omaha ABC and PBS if I used it.

antennaweb is a waste. Use tvfool.com, much more accurate.

If you get lost using it, I would be glad if you give me a zip code and can identify what type of antenna you have on the roof. If you get lost on identifying it, you could put a small picture of it here and someone or myself can tell you based on what tvfool.com says. Of course there are the building, hills, etc problem.

The HD version of channel 121 (MyNetwork TV)

Only possible if Pappas somehow allows it because they have the rights to MNTV in the Omaha area, and their DT2 subchannel is SD-only. There's no MNTV HD feed available to Omaha because Omaha's broadcast MNTV station is not HD. I really don't envision Cox being able to get permission to bypass the local affiliate. Maybe Pappas could provide Cox with a special HD version, but I strongly doubt it.

Maybe they'll convert channel 24 (to be DT 23) to MNTV HD, though it may be more likely that 23 rebroadcasts KPTM and thus would just have MNTV SD on the DT2 subchannel just like KPTM does.

From my place here at 40th & A in Lincoln, I pick up digital channels 3, 8, 10, 15, and 42. Nothing for WOWT or for Lincoln's PBS station. This is using rabbit ears on the box. KLKN is listed on Antennaweb as requiring a "blue" level antenna. There is an antenna on the roof that came with the house, but isn't hooked to anything. I'm curious if I would be able to lock in NBC, Omaha ABC and PBS if I used it.

For what it's worth, even on a little unamplified flat-panel antenna (maybe 10" x 10") I got at Best Buy I can get good indoor reception of KLKN-DT in Lincoln at a relative's house near 33rd and Vine. That's a fairly low (but flat) location, in an older house with thick, solid walls and surrounded by trees. So as the other poster said, don't put too much weight on Antennaweb's recommendation. Now, getting 3, 6, or 7 out of Omaha -- as well as 12 -- is pretty difficult in that it requires holding the antenna up in the air, near a window, and moving it around to find a "sweet spot". 8, 10, 15, and 42 all come in well even if I just set the antenna down on the floor.

somewhat off-topic:
When 12 boosts their power it should help with getting PBS, but a city the size of Lincoln needs better OTA reception of NBC. Due to designated market areas, though, that would only happen if KHAS were to turn on a repeater or satellite station in Lincoln... which I do not envision happening any time soon, and probably not ever. OTA reception of TV is limited in Lincoln so if I lived there full-time I'm sure I'd end up going the satellite HD route, even just to get the locals.

Only possible if Pappas somehow allows it because they have the rights to MNTV in the Omaha area, and their DT2 subchannel is SD-only. There's no MNTV HD feed available to Omaha because Omaha's broadcast MNTV station is not HD. I really don't envision Cox being able to get permission to bypass the local affiliate. Maybe Pappas could provide Cox with a special HD version, but I strongly doubt it.

Maybe they'll convert channel 24 (to be DT 23) to MNTV HD, though it may be more likely that 23 rebroadcasts KPTM and thus would just have MNTV SD on the DT2 subchannel just like KPTM does.

Then why are some progams on 121 listed in the guide as HD and brodcast, but 121 is not passing the HD signal through? (WWE,Magic special)were two I noticed.

I'm game. Which email address did you use? I've emailed them before and have never received a reply.

omaha.services@cox.com with the subject of HD channels adds for 09.

Qam is how the digital cable channels are sent to the cable boxes. What are you looking for exactly?

Sorry, should have clarified unscrambled.

Then why are some progams on 121 listed in the guide as HD and brodcast, but 121 is not passing the HD signal through? (WWE,Magic special)were two I noticed.

Probably because MNTV offers the programs in HD but KPTM is unable to pass the HD feed through on the subchannel due to the bandwidth used for 42-1 and not having enough left over for a second HD stream without reducing the quality on 42-1.
Only way MNTV HD might be possible on Cox is if KPTM has it in HD in-studio and could pass a feed to Cox other than what gets aired on 42-2. If Cox is just getting MNTV by picking up and rebroadcasting OTA channel 42-2 then they definitely won't have it in HD.

Sorry, should have clarified unscrambled.

what channels are you looking for? Cox brodcasts the locals unscrambled.

what channels are you looking for? Cox brodcasts the locals unscrambled.

Correct, but wondering out loud why don't they look at sending some more channels via QAM unscrambled.

I know, I know, snowball's chance in hell. But would make sense as more and more TV's have QAM tuners...

I'm entirely OTA in Lincoln. NBC WOWT (channel 6.1) has always been a bit schetchy for me, but it seems like something happened about a 5 weeks ago - I can no longer get *any* 6.1 reception with my DVR, but it is still ok with my TV tuner. Anyone else experience similar issue?

Correct, but wondering out loud why don't they look at sending some more channels via QAM unscrambled.

I know, I know, snowball's chance in hell. But would make sense as more and more TV's have QAM tuners...

big reason channel contracts if cox is paying for the signal why should they give it away for free?

Probably because MNTV offers the programs in HD but KPTM is unable to pass the HD feed through on the subchannel due to the bandwidth used for 42-1 and not having enough left over for a second HD stream without reducing the quality on 42-1.
Only way MNTV HD might be possible on Cox is if KPTM has it in HD in-studio and could pass a feed to Cox other than what gets aired on 42-2. If Cox is just getting MNTV by picking up and rebroadcasting OTA channel 42-2 then they definitely won't have it in HD.

as long as it's in the digital why can't they do HD also?

From my place here at 40th & A in Lincoln, I pick up digital channels 3, 8, 10, 15, and 42. Nothing for WOWT or for Lincoln's PBS station. This is using rabbit ears on the box. KLKN is listed on Antennaweb as requiring a "blue" level antenna. There is an antenna on the roof that came with the house, but isn't hooked to anything. I'm curious if I would be able to lock in NBC, Omaha ABC and PBS if I used it.

NebrGuy - Is the rooftop antenna a larger directional type? If so, I'm sure you could use that antenna to get Omaha NBC, ABC and Lincoln's PBS. My guess is that the previous owner used it to get Omaha analog stations long ago (otherwise he would have only needed rabbit ears to get 10 in Lincoln). And if it got Omaha analog stations, then it will get Omaha digital stations too.

You might consider adding a small second antenna to get the Lincoln stations west of town, maybe putting that one in your attic. Then you can combine the two coax from each antenna with a simple splitter/combiner, and then run that immediately to an amp (put the amp as close to the antennas as possible), and from there to your tv's or distribution center. This is my setup where I live west of Lincoln (farther from Omaha than you), and I get >90% signal strength from all the Omaha stations and Lincoln's PBS, and 80-90% from the two Lincoln stations.

Lincoln is a hard town to get all the possible OTA stations, but it can be done. It takes more than a desktop antenna to get them all. In Lincoln, the key to getting Omaha is to elevate that antenna, so your existing rooftop is perfect, assuming its a larger directional type.

as long as it's in the digital why can't they do HD also?

Bandwidth. Only so much available and to run HD on 42.2 would involve decreasing the quality on 42.1. Fox is KPTM's primary affiliation, and a stronger network than MyNet, and thus gets the higher-quality signal on the primary channel.

It's interesting comparing the "what should be" on antennaweb.org to "what actually is". My parents are east/southeast of KC, Missouri. On analog they get ch. 4, 5, 6, and 9. 6 is PBS out of Sedalia about 36 miles away and is listed as the only post-transition station they will receive. The other channels are all out of KC with a range of 62 to 68 miles. They have never been able to get NBC which is on ch. 41.

What they actually get in the form of digital signals now are channels 15 (PBS), ch 7 (ABC/analog 9) and ch 51 (ION) which is next to its analog ch at 50. ION and NBC digital (ch 42) are within 1/2 mile of each other. One would think when comparing an independent and a major national network that you would get NBC before ION.

From my place here at 40th & A in Lincoln, I pick up digital channels 3, 8, 10, 15, and 42. Nothing for WOWT or for Lincoln's PBS station. This is using rabbit ears on the box. KLKN is listed on Antennaweb as requiring a "blue" level antenna. There is an antenna on the roof that came with the house, but isn't hooked to anything. I'm curious if I would be able to lock in NBC, Omaha ABC and PBS if I used it.

I am located around 20th and West A in Lincoln, have DB2 antenna pointed toward Omaha in the attic. Antenna is connected with the 8th way splitter amplified with Motorola signal booster.

I am can receive 3.1, 6.1, 6.2, 7.1, 7.2, 8.1, 8.2, 10.1, 10.2, 12.1, 12.2, 12.3, 15.1, 15.2, 42.1, 42.2, and another 10 analog channels that I do not care much about. No more adjusting rabbit ears for each channel. All channels have strength above 80, no pixelization or dropped signals ever. The signal strength on NBC is above 90. I enjoy Sunday night football, and watch Notre Dame lose in HD. Also love Universal Sports channel 6.2.
My friend live at 56th and Randolph and have outdoor antenna (not sure which brand). He is also able to lock all channels listed above. Hope this helps. Good luck.

http://www.journalstar.com/news/local/doc493d9f75021aa580466008.txt

I am located around 20th and West A in Lincoln, have DB2 antenna pointed toward Omaha in the attic. Antenna is connected with the 8th way splitter amplified with Motorola signal booster.

I am can receive 3.1, 6.1, 6.2, 7.1, 7.2, 8.1, 8.2, 10.1, 10.2, 12.1, 12.2, 12.3, 15.1, 15.2, 42.1, 42.2, and another 10 analog channels that I do not care much about. No more adjusting rabbit ears for each channel. All channels have strength above 80, no pixelization or dropped signals ever. The signal strength on NBC is above 90. I enjoy Sunday night football, and watch Notre Dame lose in HD. Also love Universal Sports channel 6.2.
My friend live at 56th and Randolph and have outdoor antenna (not sure which brand). He is also able to lock all channels listed above. Hope this helps. Good luck.

Thanks HuskerBob, this is great information. I have wondered how good the DB2 would work in Lincoln, and if it would negate the need for two antennas.

I live near Pioneer Park, and when I bought my place, there was a huge 10' directional antenna already installed in the garage attic pointed perfectly at CrownPoint in Omaha, with coax already running down to my basement distribution center. When HD became available, I decided to put that thing to use. It got so-so reception of digital signals from Omaha, plus KUON, but couldn't get much from 8 or 10 since their towers are out west. So I added a small UHF antenna pointing west, combined it with the big directional, added a 25db amp at the antennas, added a second 10db amp right before my 8-way splitter down in my basement, and all my TV's and Directv boxes around the house receive all the stations >90. But those antennas take up a ton of room in the garage attic, which I also use for storage. I have always wondered if the DB2 or DB4 could replace my current setup and save me room. My wife just asked me today for my Christmas stocking-stuffer list. I'm pretty sure a DB2 will fit nicely in a stocking....

Thanks for the info, HB.

http://www.journalstar.com/news/local/doc493d9f75021aa580466008.txt

what was this supposed to be? The link does not work.

what was this supposed to be? The link does not work.

http://journalstar.com/articles/2008/12/08/news/local/doc493d9f75021aa580466008.txt

I'm at work, but I was looking at the TV listings on www.omaha.cox.net and I stumbled across a listing for ESPN News on channel 221. Anyone want to check it out and see if it's live yet? :)

I'm at work, but I was looking at the TV listings on www.omaha.cox.net and I stumbled across a listing for ESPN News on channel 221. Anyone want to check it out and see if it's live yet? :)

it's been live for at least 2-3 years it used to be on 225

it's been live for at least 2-3 years it used to be on 225

Well, call me an idiot - I had no idea. D'oh! Guess I don't get down that way all that often, although I do watch the U quite a bit. I need to use the guide more often apparently. :o

QUOTE=HDNewbie1028;15268472]Well, call me an idiot - I had no idea. D'oh! Guess I don't get down that way all that often, although I do watch the U quite a bit. I need to use the guide more often apparently. :o[/QUOTE]

Atleast the ESPN digital are grouped now. I wonder how soon after the new year we will get more HD?


I wonder why they can't keep the listings page you mentioned updated.

227 is going to be MLB
233 is gone

no chiller on 249
no 747 or 748

Non Jeff,

I am sure that DB4 is great antenna also, but it seams to be more directional than DB2. My goal was to get all digital channels with a single antenna. I have 2 friends (the same neighborhood) who built themselves antenna from the coat hangers. Search Youtube for coat hanger antenna if you are not familiar with this concept. I was skeptical initially, but it’s working pretty well for them. One of them actually can get PBS out of Omaha also (26.1,2,3) for total of 19 digital channels. Pretty amazing.
This antenna is built based on DB4 design, so if you looking for an afternoon project this may be something to keep you entertained.
I personally tested performance of this monster and the digital reception is pretty comparable to DB2. However, even DB2 is UHF antenna; it does much better job on the higher VHF band (channels 7-13). This is important once they move ABC and CBS back to channel 8, and channel 10 respectively. I hope to receive those channels with DB2 after this conversion.
There is always risk of an antenna not performing the way you are expecting it. Since DB2 is available from the online retailers only it makes it difficult to return it for refund. However, I learned this week that Best Buy is now selling Clear Stream 2, which is the new generation of AntennasDrirect antennas. You can pick one of those from the local BB store, test it in your attic, and if you are not happy return it for full refund.
This is also a small size antenna that would fit in a stocking nicely.

In West Omaha, I use a DB-8 in the attic broken apart into two meshes. One is aimed east-northwest towards 72nd & Crown Point and UNO to get 3, 6, 7, and 26. The other is aimed west/southwest to get 15 and 42 (and at one time, 12).

It's all hooked into a ChannelMaster pre-amp to boost the signal going downstairs since it's a long run. I'm considering buying a VHF antenna pointed west for 12 in hopes of getting 8 and 10, but I think I'll wait instead for February and see what happens.

HuskerBob - thanks for the great info. Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about in building your own clothes-hanger antenna, I have seen that on the internet, and considered building it, but was pretty skeptical it would work. Per your info, it does, and becomes a real option for me.

I thought all the DB models from AntennasDirect (DB2, DB4 and DB8) were considered multidirectional, but from what you're saying, the bigger units become more directional - good to know. I too would love to get a one-antenna solution if possible. The DB2 is 'rated' at 50 miles, whereas the DB4 is 'rated' for 65 miles, hence why I was considering the bigger unit. Antennaweb.org puts me at 53 miles from the CrownPoint towers. In looking up a comparable large VHF/UHF directional similar to what I'm using now, it only 'rates' at about 50 miles, and I'm getting perfect reception with it and the amp so I would think the DB2 (or ClearStream2) should work. So your tried and tested information really helps. I knew that new version of the DB series was the ClearStream, but I didn't know BB sold it. Darn. Looks like I have to go to BB again. (The trip alone is worth it, just to listen to people singing with Rock Band:eek:.) But, I might look into the home-made antenna too, now that I know it works well. Your info has been great.

Its also good to know that your DB2 is getting KUON on channel 12, proving it does receive high-band VHF pretty well. I'm optimistic it will also get 8 and 10 once they convert back to VHF. Sounds like most VHF stations will need to apply for higher power from the feds, which can only help our cause.

HuskerMike - as you know, 8 and 10 towers are about 30 miles west on I80 near Utica, which puts them a long ways from you, of course. But it would be interesting to see if you could get them now while they're broadcasting in UHF on 31 and 25 with a huge VHF/UHF directional like mine, plus your pre-amp. I've never seen anyone report that was possible, but then again, maybe no one has tried. I would guess it will become harder when they change to VHF 8 and 10, since VHF is more difficult to get. But they'll likely increase their power too, so who knows. Will be interesting to see if you can git ir done.

Thanks for the info, guys.

Has anyone been able to pull in the DesMoines CBS station (KCCI I think). If so, what kind of antenna? Looks like they are going to carry Steelers/Ravens this weekend instead of Broncos/Panthers. I really don't feel like going to the bar or watching on a weak internet stream.

HuskerBob - update, I got the ClearStream2 today at Best Buy, per your info, and I must say I am very impressed, it worked almost perfectly. It's pulling in all of Omaha even better than my huge directional, and reading near 100 on signal strength. The only weird thing is that it did not get KUON channel 12 that well, only in the 50's, so it was in and out. It is so small, but worked so well - pretty amazing.

When pointed at Omaha, I could only get about 30's for 8 and 10, so it didn't lock on. However, when I pointed the ClearStream2 about due north, I was then able to get 8 and 10, and all Omaha stations, in the 70's. Still couldn't pick up a strong 12 though.

My guess is that once 8 and 10 go back to VHF, the ClearStream2 may not be able to get it, since it doesn't seem to get KUON 12 that well.

Question: are you doing anything special to get KUON 12 with your DB2? Though this ClearStream2 works great, it doesn't appear to capture even high-band VHF that well. Its no big deal, because I've already added my small VHF/UHF antenna, so can get it fine. I'd just really like to get a one-antenna solution.

Non Jeff,
When I started my project the goal was to get rid of several “rabbit ears” antennas, around the house, that had to be constantly adjusted. The second goal was to pull the most of the digital channels possible with a single antenna. I never expected to get all channels in the area, with the good signal.
I tried some great directional antennas (over last few years) and was never able to get some stations without moving the antenna. Spoke with professional (Zager antenna) few years back, and was told that getting all channels is not possible without combination of 2 antennas. This was a conversation about getting all analog stations back then.
Since the idea was to get most of the channels possible I felt that DB2 gives me the best shoot. I read the expert reviews where DB2 was considered multi-directional antenna, DB4 somewhat multi-directional, and DB8 was just directional, regardless of what “Antennas Direct” claims to be.
By saying that DB2 does get signal evenly from all directions. It receives the strongest signal from the location the antenna is pointed to. However, is does very well in that front 180 degree angle.
I was afraid that ClearStream2 may not do great on VHF. For being UHF antenna DB2 does really fine on channels (7, 8, and 10), and how it is going to hold after February 17, (channels 8 and 10) remains to be seen.
In order to get all these stations I had to compromise, by pointing more toward North, than North-east. I believe for this reason I never had issues with KUON 12. It was surprising to learn that most of the Lincoln could not receive KUON 12 after they kill the analog.
By having DB2 on this position most of the stations read signal strength around 65-70 consistently. To improve performance I added Motorola signal booster, which increased strength another 20 points, for every stations.
I purchased DB2 from Amazon for $38 with free shipping, so it was easier to swallow if antenna ends up being a disappointment. Also you can try 4-way splitter instead of 8, if possible with your settings. It makes big difference with the signal strength. I hope this helps.
HB

I emailed COX this question: : I'm seeing that Comcast is starting support for tru2way TV's. I'm going to buy a Panasonic Viera TH-42PZ80Q that supports tru2way as soon as Cox supports it. Are there any dates on that?

I got this back:
It is in a plan in the future to support it. We do not have the cards. I don't have any information on it right now. I believe the cards might be coming out in early 2009.

I emailed COX this question: : I'm seeing that Comcast is starting support for tru2way TV's. I'm going to buy a Panasonic Viera TH-42PZ80Q that supports tru2way as soon as Cox supports it. Are there any dates on that?

I got this back:
It is in a plan in the future to support it. We do not have the cards. I don't have any information on it right now. I believe the cards might be coming out in early 2009.



Tru2way support most likely will be part of the EON upgrade that Omaha is currently doing. no new cards are needed.

Correction:
I ment to say:
By saying that DB2 does not get signal evenly from all directions.

Non Jeff,
When I started my project the goal was to get rid of several “rabbit ears” antennas, around the house, that had to be constantly adjusted. The second goal was to pull the most of the digital channels possible with a single antenna. I never expected to get all channels in the area, with the good signal.
I tried some great directional antennas (over last few years) and was never able to get some stations without moving the antenna. Spoke with professional (Zager antenna) few years back, and was told that getting all channels is not possible without combination of 2 antennas. This was a conversation about getting all analog stations back then.
Since the idea was to get most of the channels possible I felt that DB2 gives me the best shoot. I read the expert reviews where DB2 was considered multi-directional antenna, DB4 somewhat multi-directional, and DB8 was just directional, regardless of what “Antennas Direct” claims to be.
By saying that DB2 does get signal evenly from all directions. It receives the strongest signal from the location the antenna is pointed to. However, is does very well in that front 180 degree angle.
I was afraid that ClearStream2 may not do great on VHF. For being UHF antenna DB2 does really fine on channels (7, 8, and 10), and how it is going to hold after February 17, (channels 8 and 10) remains to be seen.
In order to get all these stations I had to compromise, by pointing more toward North, than North-east. I believe for this reason I never had issues with KUON 12. It was surprising to learn that most of the Lincoln could not receive KUON 12 after they kill the analog.
By having DB2 on this position most of the stations read signal strength around 65-70 consistently. To improve performance I added Motorola signal booster, which increased strength another 20 points, for every stations.
I purchased DB2 from Amazon for $38 with free shipping, so it was easier to swallow if antenna ends up being a disappointment. Also you can try 4-way splitter instead of 8, if possible with your settings. It makes big difference with the signal strength. I hope this helps.
HB

What are new features or advantages of tru2way?

Husker Bob - thanks for the info, sounds like our situations have been very similar over the years, and thanks for the tip on the ClearStream2 - I still can't get over how something that small is working so well. The only thing that baffles me is why I can't get KUON 12 - it should get it fine, as it sounds like your DB2 is picking up VHF 12 just fine. The literature on the CS2 says it covers the entire DTV frequencies 2-69, with some degradation in the low band VHF of course. I didn't get a chance to fiddle with it today (was finishing off that part of the attic where the huge antenna used to be) but tomorrow I'm going to play with it in earnest and get to the bottom of it. I should be able to get it.

I think I might know the problem, it could be I've over amplified my signals. OUr setups are somewhat different in that I actually have a 25 db pre-amp at my attenna, then another 15 db pre-amp down in my basement at the distribution center, right before my 8 way splitter. These were both left over from my analog days, when Zager installed them way back when, and I just left them on. My signal meter for KOUN 12 shows a bouncy, irratic reading where the tuner just can't lock on. This is a sign of either multipath, or overamplification. With a single antenna and no nearby buildings (l live on an acreage), it can't be multipath. So I bet there's too much overamplification now. Makes sense considering my signal strenth for 3, 6, 7, 15 and 41 are at 93-100%. Perhaps when KUON switched their digital to VHF 12, and applied for the temporary boost in power, my KUON signal is now too strong due to my over-amplification. I'll fiddle with it tomorrow. Anyway, thanks again, you've been a big help.

What are new features or advantages of tru2way?

The biggest advantage 2way services from cable (sdv ondemand) will work with non cable company provided tru2way devices

Correction:
I ment to say:
By saying that DB2 does not get signal evenly from all directions.

I knew what you meant, lol. But its still a pretty good multidirectional.
Update - I took out the second amplifer, and it corrected the problem I was having with KUON 12, so it must have been overamplified for whatever reason. Now getting all Omaha and KUON at about 70's, 8 and 10 about 65-75. And this is with just using the ClearStream2 only, pointing roughly due north, but there is definitely a tiny sweet spot with a small window though. Had to painstakingly tweak it, but I got everything with one antenna. But I went ahead and pointed the CS2 back to Omaha, and added my second small VHF/UHF antenna again, since now I have plenty of room to do so. Next step will be seeing if it still holds once 8 and 10 switch over to VHF.

I don't subscribe to the tier that has the non-HD version of NFL (and thus, I don't get the non-HD version). I do get the Versus HD programming on 747 though.

Joel since the split is done do you get both Versus HD and Golf HD?

Update on Weather Graphics:

KMTV goes back and forth from showing Winter Weather Advisory in the corner, and drops to SD when they show it.

WOWT has FINALLY figured out HD graphcs, at least for the corner display. They are currently showing the Winter Weather Advisory on HD shows (saw it on the Price Is Right).

KETV hasn't shown anything that I've seen this morning, so I'm guessing they can't do it in HD yet.

Update on Weather Graphics:

KMTV goes back and forth from showing Winter Weather Advisory in the corner, and drops to SD when they show it.

WOWT has FINALLY figured out HD graphcs, at least for the corner display. They are currently showing the Winter Weather Advisory on HD shows (saw it on the Price Is Right).

KETV hasn't shown anything that I've seen this morning, so I'm guessing they can't do it in HD yet.

How are you watching it? watching through cox and KMTV and WOWT are not in HD on 705 or 708.

Through Cox on 708. I hadn't seen WOWT put up the graphic at the bottom showing counties, only the graphic in the upper right hand corner, so I can't vouch for that part of it. However, it was most definitely Price Is Right in HD with their marker up there.

The "Price is Right" is on CBS & KMTV, not WOWT. WOWT shows the NBC Today show in HD until 11 am.

The "Price is Right" is on CBS & KMTV, not WOWT. WOWT shows the NBC Today show in HD until 11 am.

You sir are a genius. I was confusing the two. Over the Today show, the NBC WOWT graphic was overlayed on the HD. On Channel 3, it was SD when the graphic was up over Price is Right. I was primarily watching the Price is Right, so it stuck in my head.

You sir are a genius. I was confusing the two. Over the Today show, the NBC WOWT graphic was overlayed on the HD. On Channel 3, it was SD when the graphic was up over Price is Right. I was primarily watching the Price is Right, so it stuck in my head.

That's funny because I checked all three and on my cox hd/dvr they where all in SD in the morning.

Joel since the split is done do you get both Versus HD and Golf HD?

Yes... but I added the sports tier before the split took place.

speaking or Retro TV Network



anyone know if Omaha will ever have a broadcast station for


Retro TV Network or ION or Daystar on broadcast here in Omaha.

cause we dont get those channels here.


also anyone know if TBN (on channel 45 or 53) will go digital down the line

and get the sub-channels as well

speaking or Retro TV Network



anyone know if Omaha will ever have a broadcast station for


Retro TV Network or ION or Daystar on broadcast here in Omaha.

cause we dont get those channels here.


also anyone know if TBN (on channel 45 or 53) will go digital down the line

and get the sub-channels as well

according to the website ION is not available OTA in our area, but it's on cox

BTW:


anyone know if Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska

is ever going to do anything with Channels 4 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69


they are all blank channels

BTW:


anyone know if Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska

is ever going to do anything with Channels 4 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69


they are all blank channels

If they added those back we wouldn't get any more HD or digital for along time. Cox's plans are to trim the Analog back to 68 or so channels.

If they added those back we would get any more HD or digital for along time. Cox's plans are to trim the Analog back to 68 or so channels.


oh. it will probably be 65 channels since cox cable has no intention of putting anything on 4 or 20 or 61



BTW:


anyone know if the Pentagon Channel or the Daystar Television Network will ever be added to Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska lineup

BTW:


anyone know if Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska

is ever going to do anything with Channels 4 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69


they are all blank channels

Cox is moving away from the analog tier. Programming which had been on 4, 61, and 68 got moved to the digital tier. I forget what 20 was but it's gone. The Omaha Azteca America affiliate, which was 69 if I recall correctly, switched to TuVision and was no longer carried. Azteca is on the air in Omaha again but Cox only carries the national feed now, on digital 407.

Those in west Omaha may be able to get RTN over the air on 8.2. Otherwise there's no OTA affiliate for any of the networks you mentioned.

TBN 45 has been gone for quite some time, as they were displaced by KMTV. TBN 53 (Omaha) and 52/54 (Council Bluffs) seem to be gone as well. For a while TBN was on 39 but that seems to be gone too.

There are construction permits for the following LPs in Omaha:
16 - TBN
19 - 3ABN (was 61)
23 - KPTM-DT rebroadcast (or MNTV)
47 - KOHA-LD (was 65 then 48)

Also an application for Azteca America on 18.

oh. it will probably be 65 channels since cox cable has no intention of putting anything on 4 or 20 or 61



BTW:


anyone know if the Pentagon Channel or Daystar will ever be added to Cox Cable of Omaha's lineup

The 68 I posted earlier was what cox wanted to do in all markets, but like you said Omaha is already below the limit. I already requested the Pentagon channel along time ago I guess it couldn't hurt to request it again.

Cox is moving away from the analog tier. Programming which had been on 4, 61, and 68 got moved to the digital tier. I forget what 20 was but it's gone. The Omaha Azteca America affiliate, which was 69 if I recall correctly, switched to TuVision and was no longer carried. Azteca is on the air in Omaha again but Cox only carries the national feed now, on digital 407.

Those in west Omaha may be able to get RTN over the air on 8.2. Otherwise there's no OTA affiliate for any of the networks you mentioned.

TBN 45 has been gone for quite some time, as they were displaced by KMTV. TBN 53 (Omaha) and 52/54 (Council Bluffs) seem to be gone as well. For a while TBN was on 39 but that seems to be gone too.

There are construction permits for the following LPs in Omaha:
16 - TBN
19 - 3ABN (was 61)
23 - KPTM-DT rebroadcast (or MNTV)
47 - KOHA-LD (was 65 then 48)

Also an application for Azteca America on 18.



would LP's be able to go digital in about 6 to 8 weeks



cause I cant get 3ABN or TBN or KOHA very well.

KOHA never had anything on it. all it was a test pattern that said KOHA channel 48

it is a wasted broadcast signal.



K53EY and K61GA have crappy reception


speaking of K53EY:

not a big fan of TBN because of some of the sleazy preachers on there

but anyone know if k53ey

will carry the TBN subchannels


Church Channel or JCTV or Enlace USA




BTW;

when you say it will be on 16, will it be on channel 16 (since I have a broadcast converter box)





also:


I keep hearing a rumor about the WOWT News on 1 thing


either being moved to digital lineup

or that will become a broadcast station aka 6.3


anyone ever heard anything about that and what is the story with News on One's future

Those in west Omaha may be able to get RTN over the air on 8.2. Otherwise there's no OTA affiliate for any of the networks you mentioned.


thanks


I am surprised KMTV hasnt gotten RTN

cause there is nothing on channel 3.2 yet



I know KPTM and KXVO and WOWT and KETV and even the PBS stations all have sub-channels


and yet KMTV dosent

thanks


I am surprised KMTV hasnt gotten RTN

cause there is nothing on channel 3.2 yet



I know KPTM and KXVO and WOWT and KETV and even the PBS stations all have sub-channels


and yet KMTV dosent

I thought they where going to the Tube before it went away. Where did you hear about News on One going away?

I thought they where going to the Tube before it went away. Where did you hear about News on One going away?

I heard rumors from some friends about various things possibly happening with news on one

I thought they where going to the Tube before it went away.


what is the Tube?

I have heard of LATV and Retro TV Network and Variety Television Network


(which I have heard of cause a friend in Tulsa gets VTN on a sub-channel in their town)

but what is the Tube

I heard rumors from some friends about various things possibly happening with news on one

What are they? I would hope if WOWT dropped it one of the others would continue it (KETV). Does it sound like a Cox move or WOWT move. If you want to PM me that's fine. I just don't see WOWT wanting to shut it down if they still have the NFL games. I could see KETV make a move if it came open.

what is the Tube?

I have heard of LATV and Retro TV Network and Variety Television Network


(which I have heard of cause a friend in Tulsa gets VTN on a sub-channel in their town)

but what is the Tube

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tube_Music_Network

What are they? I would hope if WOWT dropped it one of the others would continue it (KETV). Does it sound like a Cox move or WOWT move. If you want to PM me that's fine. I just don't see WOWT wanting to shut it down if they still have the NFL games. I could see KETV make a move if it came open.


I dont know if they are. I just heard a rumor and felt like asking if anyone knew or heard anything

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tube_Music_Network

thanks for the info. considering how much of a music scene Omaha has, it would been great for Omaha to have gotten that


but lets remember, for some reason Omaha is a lot slower

than other cities that are smaller than Omaha

when it comes to getting tv channels

thanks for the info. considering how much of a music scene Omaha has, it would been great for Omaha to have gotten that


but lets remember, for some reason Omaha is a lot slower

than other cities that are smaller than Omaha

when it comes to getting tv channels

Omaha should see more channels after the EON upgrades are done in 2009. The reason it took so long because the had out of town people helping and they decided to start around the same time as the CWS, so that's one reason it is taking so long.

Well since the smaller cities get done faster than Omaha don't you think it would take longer for a bigger city like Omaha. Maybe they are taking there time and doing it right.

Omaha should see more channels after the EON upgrades are done in 2009. The reason it took so long because the had out of town people helping and they decided to start around the same time as the CWS, so that's one reason it is taking so long.

Well since the smaller cities get done faster than Omaha don't you think it would take longer for a bigger city like Omaha. Maybe they are taking there time and doing it right.

I hope so. I would love to see more broadcast sub-channels here in Omaha



it sucks when Des Moines and Boise Idaho and Sioux falls SD and St. Joseph Missouri and Sioux City Iowa

is better at getting broadcast sub-channels then Omaha is.

Well since the smaller cities get done faster than Omaha don't you think it would take longer for a bigger city like Omaha. Maybe they are taking there time and doing it right.

you maybe right


I do hope Daystar and Retro TV Network get broadcast stations here in Omaha.

I hope so. I would love to see more broadcast sub-channels here in Omaha



it sucks when Des Moines and Boise Idaho and Sioux falls SD and St. Joseph Missouri and Sioux City Iowa

is better at getting broadcast sub-channels then Omaha is.

I thought you meant cable channels. The subchannels are up to the brodcasters to get. Like was posted KETV,WOWT,KPTM, and PBS all have subchannels (all on Cox)the only one that's missing is KMTV.

I thought you meant cable channels. The subchannels are up to the brodcasters to get. Like was posted KETV,WOWT,KPTM, and PBS all have subchannels (all on Cox)the only one that's missing is KMTV.

that is what I meant


it will probably be years before we get new sub-channels on broadcast



considering we still dont have a Daystar Television Network channel here in Omaha


or Retro TV Network


and yet other cities smaller than Omaha have those 2 channels on broadcast tv

that is what I meant


it will probably be years before we get new sub-channels on broadcast



considering we still dont have a Daystar channel here in Omaha


or Retro TV Network


and yet other cities smaller than Omaha have those 2 channels on broadcast tv

most likely because people requested those. If Cox added those they would be in digital. no the smaller cities have them on digital also. Can you show me where smaller cities have them on brodcast? Those channels are sub channels, but full time channels. What's your idea of a sub channel?

most likely because people requested those. If Cox added those they would be in digital. no the smaller cities have them on digital also. Can you show me where smaller cities have them on brodcast? Those channels are sub channels, but full time channels. What's your idea of a sub channel?


Daystar is on


WDMA-CA 31 in Macon, Georgia

Portland, Maine on WLLB-LP 15

most likely because people requested those. If Cox added those they would be in digital. no the smaller cities have them on digital also. Can you show me where smaller cities have them on brodcast? Those channels are sub channels, but full time channels. What's your idea of a sub channel?

my idea of a sub channel is like KETV weather now

or that 24 hour olympics channel that WOWT has

my idea of a sub channel is like KETV weather now

or that 24 hour olympics channel that WOWT has

KMTV is the only one with bandwidth to add a subchannel. If WOWT or KETV added one it would be most likely hurt the HD feed.

oh. it will probably be 65 channels since cox cable has no intention of putting anything on 4 or 20 or 61



BTW:


anyone know if the Pentagon Channel or the Daystar Television Network will ever be added to Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska lineup

http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=2870 it will be 68 analog Omaha is already under that. Hopefully we we will get more soon.

billiefan2000,

did you ever notice


when you triple-space everything you write


it makes you look like a slow poet?


Just so this can be a productive post, here is my news item: DirecTV added NET in HD for both Omaha and Lincoln market customers as MPEG4 versions on Wednesday. (after the volleyball season is over...)

billiefan2000,

did you ever notice


when you triple-space everything you write


it makes you look like a slow poet?


Just so this can be a productive post, here is my news item: DirecTV added NET in HD for both Omaha and Lincoln market customers as MPEG4 versions on Wednesday. (after the volleyball season is over...)

Its having the same audio-visual sync problems which have plagued KOLN from Directv.

KETV has a HD School Closing crawl at the bottom of the screen. Still showing HD content as well.

KETV has a HD School Closing crawl at the bottom of the screen. Still showing HD content as well.

what time did you notice this?

Last night. Don't remember the time. Saw it both at work and at home, on channel 709 and OTA.

Last night. Don't remember the time. Saw it both at work and at home, on channel 709 and OTA. If it was a local break hopefully we will have KETV local HD soon.

I saw the HD crawl on KETV too...right around 6:30 (during Wheel of Fortune). However, when we had it on, KETV was having some nasty audio issues so we changed the channel. Not sure if it was related to the HD crawl, but it's nice to see that they're moving toward more HD graphics. I was surprised to see it, but I'm glad we'll soon be moving away from downgraded SD every time the weather gets bad.

Does anyone know what is planned for OTA 35.4? :confused:

I'm in the Center Mall area of Omaha and have been receiving an audio test tone on 35.4 for a couple of weeks.

Does anyone know what is planned for OTA 35.4? :confused:

I'm in the Center Mall area of Omaha and have been receiving an audio test tone on 35.4 for a couple of weeks.

dont know.


all there is on over-the air stations

3-cbs
6-nbc
6.2- wowt olympics channel
7- abc
7.2- weather now

15-cw
15.2- tu vision (or azteca america)

26.1- pbs
26.2-net 2 (formerly educable)
26.3- NET 3 (aka create

32.1 to 32.3- the 3 pbs stations from Iowa

42-fox
42.2- my network tv



(though they arent digital channels on broadcast)

54- tbn and 61- 3abn (though both 54 and 61 dont come in well)


BTW as Joel Nelson said earlier:

There are construction permits for the following LPs in Omaha:
16 - TBN
19 - 3ABN (was 61)
23 - KPTM-DT rebroadcast (or MNTV)
47 - KOHA-LD (was 65 then 48)



though I dont understand why KOHA needs a permit considering nothing ever aired on KOHA

unless Daystar or ION or someone else is planning to buy KOHA and put some programs on KOHA

dont know.


all there is on over-the air stations

3-cbs
6-nbc
6.2- wowt olympics channel
7- abc
7.2- weather now

15-cw
15.2- tu vision (or azteca america)

26.1- pbs
26.2-net 2 (formerly educable)
26.3- NET 3 (aka create

32.1 to 32.3- the 3 pbs stations from Iowa

42-fox
42.2- my network tv



(though they arent digital channels on broadcast)

54- tbn and 61- 3abn (though both 54 and 61 dont come in well)


BTW as Joel Nelson said earlier:

There are construction permits for the following LPs in Omaha:
16 - TBN
19 - 3ABN (was 61)
23 - KPTM-DT rebroadcast (or MNTV)
47 - KOHA-LD (was 65 then 48)



though I dont understand why KOHA needs a permit considering nothing ever aired on KOHA

unless Daystar or ION or someone else is planning to buy KOHA and put some programs on KOHA


I also pull in:

12.1
12.2
12.3

36.1
36.2
36.3

I'm using a DB8 with 1 panel facing backward. It's like having 2 DB4s installed back to back.

I also pull in:

12.1
12.2
12.3

36.1
36.2
36.3

I'm using a DB8 with 1 panel facing backward. It's like having 2 DB4s installed back to back.


i get those stations sometimes too.

12 is the same as 26


and

32 and 36 air the same programs

Any idea what's up with the audio on OTA 6.1/22.1 and Cox 708? Ever since they momentarily dropped to SD to show the school closings ticker about a half hour ago, sound quality has been bad -- sounds very "tinny".

Must be an issue with NBC HD and not WOWT. Now I hear no commentators -- just the sounds from the stadium.

Now the HD is gone altogether but the sound is back.

Does anyone know what is planned for OTA 35.4? :confused:

I'm in the Center Mall area of Omaha and have been receiving an audio test tone on 35.4 for a couple of weeks.The Iowa Public Television stations (I receive signals from two at my place, from Iowa City and Waterloo) have been running an audio-only service on their x.4 channels, though it's currently running only tone and there's no word on what it might eventually be. Some receivers can pick up this service while others can't.

The nearest channel 35 I can think of to you is IPTV's KHIN in Red Oak, IA, but its analog is 36 and I thought all the IPTV stations were mapped -- maybe their PSIP is malfunctioning.

Any idea what's up with the audio on OTA 6.1/22.1 and Cox 708? Ever since they momentarily dropped to SD to show the school closings ticker about a half hour ago, sound quality has been bad -- sounds very "tinny".


I have had that problem to with 6.1 and 22.1

I have DirecTV, one thing I miss a lot is WOWTs NEWS on ONE.

Having it on channel 6.3 would be great for us SAT customers.

Hope your listening channel 6? Think of all the advertising dollars you might get?

"I keep hearing a rumor about the WOWT News on 1 thing


either being moved to digital lineup

or that will become a broadcast station aka 6.3"

I have DirecTV, one thing I miss a lot is WOWTs NEWS on ONE.

Having it on channel 6.3 would be great for us SAT customers.

Hope your listening channel 6? Think of all the advertising dollars you might get?

"I keep hearing a rumor about the WOWT News on 1 thing


either being moved to digital lineup

or that will become a broadcast station aka 6.3"


I agree


I hope News on One becomes channel 6.3

cause other than Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska, no one gets News on One

I agree


I hope News on One becomes channel 6.3

cause other than Cox Cable of Omaha Nebraska, no one gets News on One

because it's brought to you by cox and WOWT. I don't think WOWT would use bandwidth for just a local news channel. Look at what what happend to 6.2.