I would expect that the Lincoln stations will go at least, as they want to use their "old" analog channel to broadcast in digital. Right now, they're using a temporary UHF channel to broadcast in digital. I can't imagine they'd want to wait much longer AND have to pay for running two transmitters. Omaha may be another story, but I sure hope congress just stays out of it...it's not like you haven't heard about this unless you live in a cave, and even then you should have. The only thing they SHOULD do is release more money to the converter box program immediately, if anything...

This is what I get:

72.10 6.2.O
72.11 Weather Now (7.2)
74.1 Instructions on OnDemand
82.12 InDemand Previews
104.12 InDemand Previews
105.1 KMTV HD
105.2 KXVO HD
107.1 FOX HD
107.2 NETV HD
107.3 NETV Create (Net3)
108.1 ABC HD
108.2 NBC HD
114.7 InDemand (Adult) stationary screen

im getting all of those channels too. some of them are other peoples on demand channels, i can see people browsing threw their on demand to watch movies, they're HD and really nice but i don't understand why im getting these? i have cox basic cable, channels 1-27 i dont get 15 (HBO channel). im not paying for these channels according to my cox bill. what are they?

It is normal to get these channels. They are called Clear QAM channels. Not encrypted.

I dont even have cable, just High Speed Internet and cox phone, I get them also.

One demand
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I cost cox too much to encrypted peoples on demand stream, besides the content changes every few hours and people pause or cancel shows.

Locals
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They cant legally encrypt the digital channels that are free on the public air waves like 3 , 6, 7, 15
They do seem to be encrypting the new Channel 6 news on 4 though, I would think they would want that open since they make money on advertising and its from a local channel.

I think your missing a few, anyone have any more channels to add that are in the clear?

**edit**
Scott's reply was better.

Only thing I'd add is that some of the digital channels available over the air are not available on QAM -- the Iowa PBS channels, Azteca, and KPTM-DT2. Pretty sure all the rest are available.

It is normal to get these channels. They are called Clear QAM channels. Not encrypted.

I dont even have cable, just High Speed Internet and cox phone, I get them also.

That can be hit or miss. I have some friends that have Cox HSI and phone (but not cable) and they get the QAMs; on the other hand I have family members who also have the Internet/phone package and the QAM channels don't come through.

I would expect that the Lincoln stations will go at least, as they want to use their "old" analog channel to broadcast in digital. Right now, they're using a temporary UHF channel to broadcast in digital. I can't imagine they'd want to wait much longer AND have to pay for running two transmitters. Omaha may be another story, but I sure hope congress just stays out of it...it's not like you haven't heard about this unless you live in a cave, and even then you should have. The only thing they SHOULD do is release more money to the converter box program immediately, if anything...

KOLN will switch to digital 10 on the conversion date, at least. I would expect KCWL to flash-cut as well. Not sure, though, if KLKN will try to switch back to 8 if KETV is still broadcasting analog on 7 until June. There has tended to be quite a bit of interference on the adjacent channels in the areas between the transmitter sites -- 7 overpowering 8 west of Omaha, and 8 overpowering 7 in the Seward area. I don't know if digital is less susceptible to interference from adjacent analog channels (some have said it is), but if so KLKN would likely have trouble serving the eastern end of their theoretical coverage area due to interference with analog 7.

I'm also thinking a lot of people will be surprised to find their antennas inadequate. Such as Omaha residents trying to use VHF rabbit ears to pick up the UHF-only stations, or Lincoln residents using UHF antennas that only have weak VHF components (seems to be a common flaw with a lot of the indoor antennas marketed for use with DTV).

I think your missing a few, anyone have any more channels to add that are in the clear?

The SportsZone, NewsZone, and KidsZone preview channels are in the clear on 116.1, 116.2, and 116.3 (I think).

The other channels in the clear tend to vary depending on OnDemand usage. Some will be clear one night and encrypted or unavailable the next depending on what the neighbors have on.

KLKN ran a 30 second commercial tonight that stated they will cease analog transmissions at noon on February 17th.

I don't know if digital is less susceptible to interference from adjacent analog channels (some have said it is), but if so KLKN would likely have trouble serving the eastern end of their theoretical coverage area due to interference with analog 7.In my market we've had digitals operating harmlessly on channels 51 and 52 for years, although they're on the same tower. We also have an analog 28 with a digital 27, and an analog 48 with a digital 47.

Hopefully someone more experienced in actual "engineering" will chime in, but from what I've heard, as long as the adjacent-channel transmitters are either right next to each other or are at least a certain distance apart, things should be OK.

In my market we've had digitals operating harmlessly on channels 51 and 52 for years, although they're on the same tower. We also have an analog 28 with a digital 27, and an analog 48 with a digital 47.

Hopefully someone more experienced in actual "engineering" will chime in, but from what I've heard, as long as the adjacent-channel transmitters are either right next to each other or are at least a certain distance apart, things should be OK.

They have to be within 14 miles, but that's for two side-by-side digitals. I imagine that KLKN and KETV would have to worry about interference, but I'm not sure how severe it would be.

- Trip

I don't use the DMA system anymore. Wikipedia was threatened with a lawsuit over their use of DMAs, so I began generating my own markets. I apologize if some of them are off, they're supposed to be based on OTA coverage, and I know they have inaccuracies in them.

I'm only one data point, but I can provide additional information for this area if you'd like.

Sure, what stations do you receive in Marysville? I might only move your town for the time being, but over the summer if I find myself with a ton of free time (and I might), fixing the markets will be one thing I want to get done.

- Trip

Even the non profits like PBS do not have funds to keep both going till summer. They did not fund raise the money for it.Oddly enough, Iowa Public Television's director of engineering e-mailed another AVS member earlier this week, saying his network will delay the shutoff of its analog stations if the date is extended. This includes KBIN Council Bluffs and KHIN Red Oak, IA.

The post is here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15695329#post15695329

From a wattage standpoint, this will hurt them, as will a fairly sizable cut in their proposed budget next year courtesy of Gov. Culver. But as I recall, none will immediately be changing channels and eight of their nine transmitters can harmlessly keep running without screwing up the transition for anyone else.

(The ninth, KQIN in Davenport, is another story, as its analog must be shut off before the local NBC station can move to its final channel at full power. But that's another story for another thread.)

For some reason for the last couple of days, I have been getting that MTV HD Paladia in HD in the clear QAM channel and I dont subscribe to cable, just phone and internet. Everyone should re scan to see what they get thats new.

The SportsZone, NewsZone, and KidsZone preview channels are in the clear on 116.1, 116.2, and 116.3 (I think).

The other channels in the clear tend to vary depending on OnDemand usage. Some will be clear one night and encrypted or unavailable the next depending on what the neighbors have on.

Oddly enough, Iowa Public Television's director of engineering e-mailed another AVS member earlier this week, saying his network will delay the shutoff of its analog stations if the date is extended. This includes KBIN Council Bluffs and KHIN Red Oak, IA.

The post is here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15695329#post15695329

From a wattage standpoint, this will hurt them, as will a fairly sizable cut in their proposed budget next year courtesy of Gov. Culver. But as I recall, none will immediately be changing channels and eight of their nine transmitters can harmlessly keep running without screwing up the transition for anyone else.

(The ninth, KQIN in Davenport, is another story, as its analog must be shut off before the local NBC station can move to its final channel at full power. But that's another story for another thread.)


which Iowa PBS does Cox Omaha get?

For some reason for the last couple of days, I have been getting that MTV HD Paladia in HD in the clear QAM channel and I dont subscribe to cable, just phone and internet. Everyone should re scan to see what they get thats new.

Hopefully they are working on adding more HD.

caller id on tv

anyone with cox hear anymore on Omaha getting caller id on the tv which was mentioned in the letter that was talking about the upgrades. We got faster internet,more channels, but no mention of caller id on tv yet.

NTV is running an ad saying that Ch 13 & 6 will shut down their analog transmitters 2/17 @ 9 am.

which Iowa PBS does Cox Omaha get?They all carry the same programming from IPTV headquarters in Johnston, a Des Moines suburb. It might be interesting to know, but in terms of programming it really makes no difference.

NTV is running an ad saying that Ch 13 & 6 will shut down their analog transmitters 2/17 @ 9 am.Yep, and they (KHGI Kearney/KWNB Hayes Center) have filed notices of suspension with the FCC. Pappas is doing likewise with a Sioux City Fox station.

They join the Gray stations (KOLN/KGIN and WOWT) in seeking to shut off on time.

EDIT: Just in this morning, KPTM in Omaha has also filed for a Feb. 17 analog shutoff. citing its efforts to educate the public about Feb. 17 as well as Pappas' bankruptcy situation.

I'm still watching for the Citadel stations (KLKN is one) since one operates in my original hometown in central Iowa.

They all carry the same programming from IPTV headquarters in Johnston, a Des Moines suburb. It might be interesting to know, but in terms of programming it really makes no difference.

A few years ago someone at Cox told me it was KHIN/36 in Red Oak that Cox carries. Not sure if that's still the case but it wouldn't surprise me as despite being farther away, KHIN has a higher-powered signal than KBIN/32, both digital and analog.

They all carry the same programming from IPTV headquarters in Johnston, a Des Moines suburb. It might be interesting to know, but in terms of programming it really makes no difference.



I just wondered since cox is moving Iowa PBS to digital 113 plus adding IPTV Learns – channel 114
IPTV World – channel 115
PBS HD – channel 713

on the 17th

I'm still watching for the Citadel stations (KLKN is one) since one operates in my original hometown in central Iowa.

Tonight on their local news KLKN ran a feature story about how they were shutting off analog on the original 2-17-09 date, even if congress passed an extension. They interviewed their own station mananger. They mentioned in the story that most local Lincoln and Omaha broadcasters are doing the same, though did not specify. The point of the story was that most every station Lincoln receives is shutting off analog on the original date, so get your converters ready if you need them.

For those of you still wondering why you are not able to receive KHGI via DirecTV I will fill you in with as much as I know. (Paul I tried to reply but your account cannot receive private messages).

I am not receiving it via satellite on my HR20, only OTA. DirecTV has disabled all of the signals from the 72.5 satellite on all newly installed MPEG4 equipment (HR20, HR21 etc.) since about last August as far as I can tell. I have called them and also emailed them but to no avail. I can receive it fine through an antenna but many customers can't and so these customers are not getting what they are paying for. My parents have an HR21 that was installed about a year ago but they are still receiving 13 via satellite off the 72.5 satellite but in SD only. So anyone who added the HD package & locals before the HD locals were activated (August 20) seems to be OK. (just a theory) DirecTV has not taken the HD uplink from Hastings although I understand it is available to them. I suppose since they have KLKN HD they don't want to have two ABC networks due to bandwidth limitations. If you want to receive it and your Receiver/DVR doesn't have an ATSC tuner built in I would recommend getting the AM21 to complement your equipment. It's doubtful that DirecTV will ever pick up the NET sub channels or RTN or any additional sub channels that are added in the future so that is another reason to get it.

On a positive note the audio problem on KHAS seems to be fixed. I did not have any problems during the Super Bowl.

They still don't have the correct guide date for 10.2/11.2. (ch. 25 DirecTV)

Tonight on their local news KLKN ran a feature story about how they were shutting off analog on the original 2-17-09 date, even if congress passed an extension. They interviewed their own station mananger. They mentioned in the story that most local Lincoln and Omaha broadcasters are doing the same, though did not specify. The point of the story was that most every station Lincoln receives is shutting off analog on the original date, so get your converters ready if you need them.Still not seeing KLKN or its sister stations as of this overnight.

However, for you folks in Omaha, KXVO has joined KPTM and WOWT in telling the FCC their plan to shut off analog on the original date.

Source: http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1292987&Service=TV&Form_id=911&Facility_id=23277

Last night, Jon Vanderford, 10-11 news anchor, admitted on air that he still needed to get a converter box (I would guess he really doesn't need it... why wouldn't he have cable or satellite?). If someone IN THE TV INDUSTRY is still unprepared, I wonder just how many millions think they're ready but will be disappointed Feb. 18?

Cornhustler, do you still have your 72.5 dish hooked up? Do you still see KCWL-51? It's possible that DirecTV used a multiswitch incapable of handling 72.5 when they upgraded you to MPEG4. Check your satellite setup to see if 72.5 is an option, but you're right, they may have figured what's the point if they're providing HD MPEG4 signals. However, KHGI may have some grounds for suit if they signed a contract for carriage but D* installers/programmers are not enabling viewers to see it. I don't think D* can choose one ABC affiliate over another just for the sake of bandwidth, IF KHGI wants to be seen on D*.

I do not have nor have ever had a 72.5 dish. I did not order locals until after DirecTV added HD locals and was under the impression that all I needed was the slimline dish. I wanted to get ABC HD for college football last fall. KHGI did not transmit an HD signal until the week of the Colorado game so the only way to get ABC HD was was via satellite on KLKN. I am 96 miles from the KLKN transmitter so OTA reception comes and goes.
When I didn't get KHGI 13 from the slimline I wasn't that concerned about it since I could already get them OTA. I am concerned for other customers who cannot get KHGI though. I get all stations that DirecTV offers except KHGI with only the slimline dish.
I talked directly to the chief engineer at NTV and they are aware of the problem but he said most people in this area have Dish network not DirecTV so it didn't seem to be that big of an issue with them.

I receive the following stations from DirecTV -

KHAS HD
KLKN HD
KOLN HD
KTVG HD
KHNE HD
MyTV
KCWL

but no KHGI

On another note did anyone see this?

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/38717302.html

The same story ran on KHAS but it's no wonder that people are confused - the anchors introduced the story as "a Lincoln man who made his own digital converter."
When the anchors don't know the difference how is the general public supposed to know?

http://www.khastv.com/

Last night, Jon Vanderford, 10-11 news anchor, admitted on air that he still needed to get a converter box (I would guess he really doesn't need it... why wouldn't he have cable or satellite?). If someone IN THE TV INDUSTRY is still unprepared, I wonder just how many millions think they're ready but will be disappointed Feb. 18?

Cornhustler, do you still have your 72.5 dish hooked up? Do you still see KCWL-51? It's possible that DirecTV used a multiswitch incapable of handling 72.5 when they upgraded you to MPEG4. Check your satellite setup to see if 72.5 is an option, but you're right, they may have figured what's the point if they're providing HD MPEG4 signals. However, KHGI may have some grounds for suit if they signed a contract for carriage but D* installers/programmers are not enabling viewers to see it. I don't think D* can choose one ABC affiliate over another just for the sake of bandwidth, IF KHGI wants to be seen on D*.

jon really isn't good with on-the-spot conversations...i think he made it up to say something...he has a tendency to say weird stuff when he has to think on his feet (however his co-anchor is a great example of someone who can think on their feet)

cox digital remote

anyone know how to reset the cox digital remote? when I press a buton the mode light blinks 4 times. I tried new batteries no change.

For those of you still wondering why you are not able to receive KHGI via DirecTV ....

Cornhustler - are you saying that Directv should be able to give us KHGI in HD now? Seems strange that KHGI is unconcerned since most customers were on Dish. First, I doubt that's true, and second, even if it was, I'd think KHGI would demand Directv provide their channel. As you say, its contractual. But also I'd think it would affect advertising. Businesses are less likely to advertise if they knew the station was only partially viewable in the area.

I have no horse in this race, since I'm in Lincoln. But if I lived in the area, I'd rather see local ABC than Lincoln ABC.

This seems similar to Dish Network not providing your area with KHAS HD.

BREAKING: KLKN files to shut off analog on-time Feb. 17.

Source: http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1293054&Service=TV&Form_id=911&Facility_id=11264

Sister station KCAU has filed a similar application.

Well it looks like the official DTV switch date has been pushed back. At least the stations here in Omaha are going to keep the original Feb 17th date.

We should call this forum the TEMP Feb 17th switch over reporting site, were all here to help everyone make the move and report issues and signal quality.

We should email the station engineers reminding them to look here the day after for signal issues, they might find our reports interesting.

I cant wait to re point my VHF ant to Lincoln.

Well it looks like the official DTV switch date has been pushed back. At least the stations here in Omaha are going to keep the original Feb 17th date.

What about KETV and KMTV? Have they filed to shut off analog on 2/17?

Has anyone been having problems with Cox 105.2, 107.1, and 108.2 being heavily pixelated the past 3 days? The other "free" Cox HD stations are working fine.

Are you saying that Directv should be able to give us KHGI in HD now? Yes if their bandwidth allows it.

Seems strange that KHGI is unconcerned since most customers were on Dish. First, I doubt that's true It is true.

and second, even if it was, I'd think KHGI would demand Directv provide their channel. As you say, its contractual. But also I'd think it would affect advertising. Businesses are less likely to advertise if they knew the station was only partially viewable in the area. All these things are true but right now they are focused on getting channel 6 in Hayes Center upgraded to HD plus whatever they are doing with KSNB Superior. The only viewers that are being affected are DirecTV HD subscribers. That number is dwarfed by Charter subscribers, DISH subscribers, DirecTV SD viewers and OTA viewers. When things slow down after all the conversions are made I'm sure they will address it.

This seems similar to Dish Network not providing your area with KHAS HD. ....or KHNE HD or KTVG HD, etc.

I emailed Directv about adding KHGI-HD. The response:

"We had hoped to be able to offer KHGI in HD in your area by now and I’m sorry that we haven’t been able to. We would love to provide KHGI in HD but satellite capacity doesn’t allow us to do that yet. However, we continue to expand our HD capacity and hope to offer it in your area in the near future.

I know how important HD programming is to you and I assure you that we are doing our best to bring more of it to you as soon as possible. We hope to be able to announce a new start date for KHGI in HD in Lincoln-Hastings NE soon."

So, beware if you're considering Directv especially since their new boxes don't allow OTA reception.

Has anyone noticed that Cox on demand is now offering FX HD and doesn't carry FX HD on their channel lineup? I hope it's coming, FX HD is my #1 HD channel request. Anyone heard anything? Sorry if this has been discussed.

Has anyone noticed that Cox on demand is now offering FX HD and doesn't carry FX HD on their channel lineup? I hope it's coming, FX HD is my #1 HD channel request. Anyone heard anything? Sorry if this has been discussed.

FuseHD,Gospel Music HD Speed HD,SundaceHD are also listed with no non ondemand HD channel in omaha yet. I think we have a better chance for FXHD and and SpeedHD
http://www.multichannel.com/article/173574-Fuel_TV_FX_HD_Speed_HD_Get_Boost_From_Cox_.php

What about KETV and KMTV? Have they filed to shut off analog on 2/17?I haven't seen anything from them yet.

BTW, the FCC just gave stations until Monday, Feb. 9 to file notice if they want to shut down analog Feb. 17. Otherwise it appears they'll need to keep their analog transmitters on the air until at least March 14 and will need to give at least 30 days notice before shutting it off, barring equipment failure.

Source: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-09-6A1.pdf

FuseHD,Gospel Music HD Speed HD,SundaceHD are also listed with no non ondemand HD channel in omaha yet. I think we have a better chance for FXHD and and SpeedHD
http://www.multichannel.com/article/173574-Fuel_TV_FX_HD_Speed_HD_Get_Boost_From_Cox_.php

Don't suppose you know when that will happen for us? I hope we get FX HD before the new season of Rescue Me. Thanks for the link.

Who would I email at Cox to ask them when/if FX HD is coming? Thanks for any info.

In Omaha, KETV president and general manager Sarah Smith said she plans to hold off on the conversion for her station, saying she plans to set a new date Thursday.

“We’ve got to do the best thing for the viewers,” she said. “We’ll sit down and talk it out.”

Representatives from Omaha stations KPTM, KMTV and WOWT were unavailable, but WOWT indicated on its Web site it planned to convert on Feb. 17.

Read the full article here.

http://www.journalstar.com/news/local/doc498a53354e82f960382227.txt

For what it's worth:

KCCI -- KETV's Hearst-Argyle sister station in Des Moines -- announced that it will keep its analog on the air until the NEW June 12 deadline.

http://www.kcci.com/news/18649329/detail.html

Ugh channel 7 just can't seem to get it right.

Ugh channel 7 just can't seem to get it right.



what do you mean? she said sevre weather is the main reason KETV is keeping analog.

Don't suppose you know when that will happen for us? I hope we get FX HD before the new season of Rescue Me. Thanks for the link.

Who would I email at Cox to ask them when/if FX HD is coming? Thanks for any info.

just send an email to omaha.services@cox.com

Most stations are reporting it cost about $10,000 per month to keep the analog going when you factor in electric and other costs.
That is why they want to go as planned.
Latest rumor is all stations in the Omaha Lincoln area are going as planned except for KETV.

So KETV will be out what? $10k x 5 months or $50k,

wonder if anyone will get laid off later to pay for it or if they will cut back on plans to do Local HD news?

Most stations are reporting it cost about $10,000 per month to keep the analog going when you factor in electric and other costs.
That is why they want to go as planned.
Latest rumor is all stations in the Omaha Lincoln area are going as planned except for KETV.

So KETV will be out what? $10k x 5 months or $50k,

wonder if anyone will get laid off later to pay for it or if they will cut back on plans to do Local HD news?

KETV just announced on the 10 PM news that June 12 will be their cutoff date. KPTM and KXVO are running promos indicating the analog signal goes away on the original cutoff date, 2/17.

I still don't have confirmed info on KMTV and KCWL but all others are switching to digital by 2/18.

Don't suppose you know when that will happen for us? I hope we get FX HD before the new season of Rescue Me. Thanks for the link.

Who would I email at Cox to ask them when/if FX HD is coming? Thanks for any info.

As a side note... a month or two before we actually received AMCHD they had it in the On-Demand section, as FXHD is now. As soon as AMCHD went live here, it disappeared from On-Demand.

When I saw FXHD a week or so ago in the On Demand section I started wondering if down the line in a month or two we'd receive it as a new channel. Just food for thought. :)

As a side note... a month or two before we actually received AMCHD they had it in the On-Demand section, as FXHD is now. As soon as AMCHD went live here, it disappeared from On-Demand.

When I saw FXHD a week or so ago in the On Demand section I started wondering if down the line in a month or two we'd receive it as a new channel. Just food for thought. :)

considering AMCHD was one of the channels annouced in October as launching and it didn't launch on time I think Omaha might use the usage data from ondemand and channel requests and what the channels want paid to see what HD gets added.

Updated Transition List:

WOWT (NBC) - Feb 17
KPTM (FOX) - Feb 17
KYNE (PBS) - Feb 17
KETV (ABC) - Jun 12
KMTV (CBS) - Jun 12

Source Link (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1219&u_sid=10556649)

which Iowa PBS does Cox Omaha get?

I think they get Council Bluffs pbs station



I know those who refuse who have cox cable that have cable who refuse to upgrade to digitial



wont get it after feburay 17


cause channel 13 is moving to channel 113

Updated Transition List:

WOWT (NBC) - Feb 17
KPTM (FOX) - Feb 17
KYNE (PBS) - Feb 17
KETV (CBS) - Jun 12
KMTV (ABC) - Jun 12

Source Link (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1219&u_sid=10556649)


thanks for the info


what about kxvo


I know the 3 LPTV stations


channel 54 aka K54GL on broadcast is moving to 16 aka K16HM-D

channel 61 is moving to 19 aka K19HT-D

and channel 48 aka KOHA-LP is moving to 47 KOHA-LD


will have a while to upgrade to digital since LPTV stations arent required to go digital this year

Updated Transition List:

WOWT (NBC) - Feb 17
KPTM (FOX) - Feb 17
KYNE (PBS) - Feb 17
KETV (CBS) - Jun 12
KMTV (ABC) - Jun 12

Source Link (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1219&u_sid=10556649)

KETV is ABC

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1219&u_sid=10557376


KMTV is CBS

The White House wants your opinion on The DTV Delay ACT Bill
President Obama said he will not sign the DTV transaction act into law on Monday until he hears what the public has to say, you can comment here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/dtv_delay_act/

The White House wants your opinion on The DTV Delay ACT Bill
President Obama said he will not sign the DTV transaction act into law on Monday until he hears what the public has to say, you can comment here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/dtv_delay_act/

he already signed it. the new date is June 12th.

No, according to Broadcasting & Cable and Multichannel News, the president has not yet signed the bill. What a disaster if he doesn't sign it!

FYI, by my count, at least 40% of stations in the Upper Midwest will have ended analog broadcasting by 2/17, based on station announcements. (That includes 13% of stations which already have turned off analog, including KUON.)

No, according to Broadcasting & Cable and Multichannel News, the president has not yet signed the bill. What a disaster if he doesn't sign it!

FYI, by my count, at least 40% of stations in the Upper Midwest will have ended analog broadcasting by 2/17, based on station announcements. (That includes 13% of stations which already have turned off analog, including KUON.)


so if he has not signed it yet how can ketv stay analog until June?

Until DTV Delay Act is signed, technically the transition for ALL stations remains 2/17. Though of course, it's about 99% certain Obama will sign it, so KETV & the rest of the Hearst-Argyle gang are 99% safe in saying they'll delay until 6/12.

What a mess if Obama DOESN'T sign this bill after all, unless the Dems in Congress give up and the original 2/17 date stands. It's got to be yea or nay, this CANNOT go back to Congress for further cud-chewing at this point.

Will the KETV delay mess up my new digital signal from Lincolns ABC channel 8 come Feb 17th?


They are moving to there orginal channel 8 for digital?

I am in Sarpy county and I can get channel 8 digital feed today. I cant seem to get there analog today on the real channel 8 very good even with a good VHF.

I am thinking the whole end channel design was based on everyone moving at the same time. Now that KETV is not moving till JUNE I bet we have issues they did not predict or test for.


KETV, Please move on time as in Feb 17th, and clean up the spectrum, dont delay, save electricity- be green.

Will the KETV delay mess up my new digital signal from Lincolns ABC channel 8 come Feb 17th?


They are moving to there orginal channel 8 for digital?

I am in Sarpy county and I can get channel 8 digital feed today. I cant seem to get there analog today on the real channel 8 very good even with a good VHF.

I am thinking the whole end channel design was based on everyone moving at the same time. Now that KETV is not moving till JUNE I bet we have issues they did not predict or test for.


KETV, Please move on time as in Feb 17th, and clean up the spectrum, dont delay, save electricity- be green.

scott why do mention only KETV when KPTM (Fox), KMTV (CBS) will also wait until June.

Will the KETV delay mess up my new digital signal from Lincolns ABC channel 8 come Feb 17th?


They are moving to there orginal channel 8 for digital?

I am in Sarpy county and I can get channel 8 digital feed today. I cant seem to get there analog today on the real channel 8 very good even with a good VHF.


I've wondered the same thing. The reason analog 8 doesn't come in well in Sarpy County (even in areas where it otherwise should) is because of interference from 7. I remember a time a few years back when 7 was momentarily off the air, and all of a sudden reception of 8 was pretty good. When 7 came back on, 8 again was drowned out. Sometimes when the stations would ID, I'd be able to make out the "8" logo on channel 8 but there would be the "circle 7" logo as well! Basically 8 was unwatchable in Sarpy County (using an indoor antenna) until digital 31 came on full-power from Utica.

Now I've been told that adjacent channels aren't as big of a deal with digital, but in pretty much all the cases it's also a case of co-location (Iowa PBS analog 32 and digital 33 comes to mind, or Fox analog 42 and digital 43).

31 doesn't seem to suffer that much from interference from analog 32, but on the other hand 32 is pretty weak in western Sarpy County while analog 7 tends to be the clearest analog signal.

I'm guessing even with a pretty good VHF antenna, western Sarpy County will lose ch. 8 until June. I hope I'm wrong on Feb. 18th but we'll see.

scott why do mention only KETV when KPTM (Fox), KMTV (CBS) will also wait until June.

I think KETV is the main point of concern due to the adjacent channel with KLKN. KMTV's analog 3 signal isn't adjacent to anything else locally. Same goes for KPTM, as their analog is adjacent only to their digital, and being co-located it doesn't matter. (I was watching KPTM News Thursday evening and I thought they said they, and KXVO, were shutting analog off on 2/17. Did something change?)

The problem is with KETV ABC channel 7 and Lincolns ABC channel 8.
I could care less about the other guys not moving on Feb 17th.

There was a study that if adjancent channels were with in 15 miles of each other there would be NO issues on Digital.

These two are far apart so everyone trying to get both there could see issues.
This was not planned for as everyone was to move at the same time.

For the study they had a truck come out and map everything, sector by sector.
The link to those signal maps is a few pages back. They don't apply anymore for channels 7 and 8 till June.

I wonder since both are ABC they are competitors, KETV did the delay for advertising profits and to protect there DMA rights for the high population Sarpy county area.
It may also knock off channel 8 from some near by cable systems.
Those closer to Lincoln may have troubles getting Omahas ABC. Those closer to Omaha wont have a chance at Lincolns ABC.

KLKN's reception problems in Sarpy County are because its transmitter is 60-75 miles away (depending on your location in the county; most of the population lives closer to the 70 mile mark). The operation of channels 7 & 8 meets FCC minimum distance requirements, analog or digital.

Markets are assigned based on viewing patterns for the market as a whole, not one station. Even if everyone in Sarpy County could get 8 & 10, the viewership still wouldn't be greater than 3, 6, 7, 15, and 42 combined. Besides that, most people in the county would likely prefer to get their news, weather, and sports from the Omaha stations because they're closer.

I think they get Council Bluffs pbs station



I know those who refuse who have cox cable that have cable who refuse to upgrade to digitial



wont get it after feburay 17


cause channel 13 is moving to channel 113



I was watching 13 last nigt and it looks like it comes from Des Moines

The problem is with KETV ABC channel 7 and Lincolns ABC channel 8.
I could care less about the other guys not moving on Feb 17th.

There was a study that if adjancent channels were with in 15 miles of each other there would be NO issues on Digital.

These two are far apart so everyone trying to get both there could see issues.
This was not planned for as everyone was to move at the same time.

For the study they had a truck come out and map everything, sector by sector.
The link to those signal maps is a few pages back. They don't apply anymore for channels 7 and 8 till June.

I wonder since both are ABC they are competitors, KETV did the delay for advertising profits and to protect there DMA rights for the high population Sarpy county area.
It may also knock off channel 8 from some near by cable systems.
Those closer to Lincoln may have troubles getting Omahas ABC. Those closer to Omaha wont have a chance at Lincolns ABC.

scott they did it for the weather.:D

http://ww2.cox.com/wcm/en/residential/datasheet/omaha/omahachannellineup.pdf

updated cox pdf lineup.

suprise no channels marked as comming soon.

I wonder since both are ABC they are competitors, KETV did the delay for advertising profits and to protect there DMA rights for the high population Sarpy county area.
It may also knock off channel 8 from some near by cable systems.
Those closer to Lincoln may have troubles getting Omahas ABC. Those closer to Omaha wont have a chance at Lincolns ABC.I doubt it's that. At least one FCC commissioner noted that Hearst-Argyle as a group (they're KETV's parent) is keeping most of their analogs "on" until June 12, and praised them for it. I'm not sure what Citadel's thinking is (they own KLKN) -- at last check, they're keeping their analog on in the Quad Cities and Des Moines, but shutting it down Feb. 17 in Lincoln and Sioux City. Having watched these companies operate in Des Moines-Ames for years, I thought there'd be a chance that KETV and KCCI would stay on, and I certainly expected all four of the Citadel stations to shut off analog Feb. 17. I guess I was wrong on the latter.

http://ww2.cox.com/wcm/en/residential/datasheet/omaha/omahachannellineup.pdf

updated cox pdf lineup.

suprise no channels marked as comming soon.

No new hd channels in Feb? What's the holdup? Many Cox cities have recently added the following hd channels Fox News hd,FX hd, Speed hd, E! hd, Cartoon network hd, where is the Weather channel hd? Since last October, Cox has added just 3 hd channels, NOT ACCEPTABLE COX!!!!

I'm not sure what Citadel's thinking is (they own KLKN) -- at last check, they're keeping their analog on in the Quad Cities and Des Moines, but shutting it down Feb. 17 in Lincoln and Sioux City.

It's like a game of finding patterns on Sesame Street. I found the pattern, did you? :D

KLKN and KCAU will have upper-VHF digitals, which are generally considered the best place to be. WOI and WHBF will have low-VHF digitals, generally considered the worst place on the band to be. If it was me, I'd wait as long as possible to move back to low-VHF too.

- Trip

No new hd channels in Feb? What's the holdup? Many Cox cities have recently added the following hd channels Fox News hd,FX hd, Speed hd, E! hd, Cartoon network hd, where is the Weather channel hd? Since last October, Cox has added just 3 hd channels, NOT ACCEPTABLE COX!!!!

we get one IPBSHD

I just did a full QAM scan, looks like all the new channel space when toward some kind of NHL pass, there are tons of new channels now that were not there last week. Maybe after this is over they will add more HD.

Its all about making money and these special sports packages make money, where HD is free and makes them NO extra money (other than it keeps people from switching to Dish or DirecTV, where they have those channels)

It's like a game of finding patterns on Sesame Street. I found the pattern, did you? :D

KLKN and KCAU will have upper-VHF digitals, which are generally considered the best place to be. WOI and WHBF will have low-VHF digitals, generally considered the worst place on the band to be. If it was me, I'd wait as long as possible to move back to low-VHF too.

- TripThat may be true, but as a group the general view is that they tend to be somewhat averse to anything that requires spending money, and running a second transmitter for four more months fits into that category. If they were really concerned about their low-band assignments, they could have taken their channel election process to the second or third round and gotten in-core UHF channels, as a station in Davenport on analog 6/DT 56 did.

I suspect they decided based on what the competition was doing. NBC in Hastings was already all-digital and CBS 10/11 delared early on that they would make the shift around 2/17. Sioux City's NBC also declared early for 2/17, and they're a major player if not the top station there. There was no similar rush for the analog exits in Des Moines (so far, just NBC and Fox) or the Quad Cities, and the top stations there are keeping analog until 6/12.

I just did a full QAM scan, looks like all the new channel space when toward some kind of NHL pass, there are tons of new channels now that were not there last week. Maybe after this is over they will add more HD.

Its all about making money and these special sports packages make money, where HD is free and makes them NO extra money (other than it keeps people from switching to Dish or DirecTV, where they have those channels)



how do you know it went for that. Maybe they are making room for more HD by the way NHL switches to MBL in baseball season maybe it's for that or a split. who really knows.

There is some new information posted at the following link regarding the local FOX affiliates switch to digital.

FOX 4 & 17 (http://www.fox417.tv/Global/story.asp?S=9697070)

After going to there site and seeing there map of coverage I can now see how KOLN Lincoln could BID for the Fox Rights for the Lincoln eastern DMA area only. There stations just do not cover the eastern half of the DMA, kind of like why there are TWO different ABC stations in the Lincoln-GI-Kearney DMA.

Any more rumors about KOLNs new network?

There is some new information posted at the following link regarding the local FOX affiliates switch to digital.

FOX 4 & 17 (http://www.fox417.tv/Global/story.asp?S=9697070)

There is a similar page at the NTV website which explains Pappas's plans for digital conversion.

NTV 6 & 13 (http://www.nebraska.tv/Global/story.asp?S=9696661&nav=menu605_1)

No new hd channels in Feb? What's the holdup? Many Cox cities have recently added the following hd channels Fox News hd,FX hd, Speed hd, E! hd, Cartoon network hd, where is the Weather channel hd? Since last October, Cox has added just 3 hd channels, NOT ACCEPTABLE COX!!!!


you are so right

but

you tend to forgot that Cox Cable of Omaha

is like Metro area transit of Omaha

(they want to be the worst in their field in the country)

I was watching 13 last nigt and it looks like it comes from Des Moines

actually all thw PBS stations in Iowa come from des Moines

it just happens CB and others in Iowa are just sister feeds of the Des Moines station

you are so right

but

you tend to forgot that Cox Cable of Omaha

is like Metro area transit of Omaha

(they want to be the worst in their field in the country)

actually they are one of best

one of the first to launch phone and interenet

the holdup most likely is the 1Ghz upgrade is not done.

Remember I posted I heard it would be mid February before the upgrade was complete was the last I heard/

I forgot or I missed the 1 Ghz upgrade part.

What will that get us? More HD will it be used more for on Demand, internet or phone? Can they put channels up there?

I searched in google and found this. What does it all mean? Is it also switched Video support? Will they really do it now that the economy is bad and everyone is cutting back?

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-Fully-Upgraded-To-1Ghz-By-2011-100603
and
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-1Ghz-Upgrades-25Mbps-Speeds-89444
and even better
http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=2870

I forgot or I missed the 1 Ghz upgrade part.

What will that get us? More HD will it be used more for on Demand, internet or phone? Can they put channels up there?

I searched in google and found this. What does it all mean? Is it also switched Video support? Will they really do it now that the economy is bad and everyone is cutting back?

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-Fully-Upgraded-To-1Ghz-By-2011-100603
and
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-1Ghz-Upgrades-25Mbps-Speeds-89444
and even better
http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=2870


Scott Omaha is not done, or might be about done in mid February with the upgrade. We might hear more in March or April. The 1Ghz will allow cox to use the bandwidth more efficiently and faster internet we will not see it used for video until we get new boxes the have 1Ghz tuners.

looks like no new channels for cox until maybe April

CSR said they are most likely done adding channels this quarter.

Will the new Cox 1Ghz help them get more HD channels to each neighboor hoods head end box so they can do more one demand HD or something else.

I just cant believe they will upgrade the boxes? Will they make you upgrade only if you want more HD?

Just looking down the road, trying to understand the 1 Ghz upgrade, when very few other cable systems in big cities other than cox are doing it.

Will the new Cox 1Ghz help them get more HD channels to each neighboor hoods head end box so they can do more one demand HD or something else.

I just cant believe they will upgrade the boxes? Will they make you upgrade only if you want more HD?

Just looking down the road, trying to understand the 1 Ghz upgrade, when very few other cable systems in big cities other than cox are doing it.

not at first the current boxes only have 850 Mhz tuners Motorola makes 1 Ghz boxes. I expect them to upgrade the HD HD/DVR boxes while the regular digtal boxes are at the lower end, but as the DCT 2000 fail they would get replaced with newer hardware.

question for people who have a cox dvr and a HDTV connected through hdmi. Ever since channel 1was added as a ondemand choice every so often the video and sound would go out when exiting a ondeand show. Anyone notice this?

There is a new video explaining some of Pappas's central Nebraska stations plans for the digital transition. Click on the yellow camera.

NTV video link (http://www.nebraska.tv/Global/story.asp?S=9696661&nav=menu605_1)

Some slightly new info on video Cornhustler posted: NTV GM announced that 13.2 will carry KTVG-DT/HD when KHGI goes full power digital.

Here is a nice list from AP today on stations ending Analog on Feb 17th

_ Nebraska

Lincoln DMA: KGIN (CBS), KHNE-TV (PBS), KWNB-TV (ABC), KHGI-TV (ABC), KLNE-TV (PBS), KLKN (ABC), KOLN (CBS), KSNB-TV (Fox)

North Platte DMA : KNOP-TV (NBC) (i think it INCLUDES KWNB-6 which is in there DMA)

Omaha DMA: KYNE-TV (PBS), WOWT-TV (NBC)


_ Iowa

Des Moines-Ames: KDSM-TV (Fox), WHO-TV (NBC)

Sioux City: (KCAU-TV) ABC, KMEG (CBS), KPTH (Fox), KPTH, KTIV (NBC)

Some slightly new info on video Cornhustler posted: NTV GM announced that 13.2 will carry KTVG-DT/HD when KHGI goes full power digital.

So 13.1 and 13.2 will both be HD? They must be using that fancy compression multicasting thing that they use in OKC, or starving bandwidth.

OR, KTVG will continue to be broadcast from a separate stick but just mapped to 13.2?

So 13.1 and 13.2 will both be HD? They must be using that fancy compression multicasting thing that they use in OKC, or starving bandwidth.

OR, KTVG will continue to be broadcast from a separate stick but just mapped to 13.2?

No, both are going to be on KHGI. Correct me if I'm wrong but since Fox and ABC are both just 720p, not 1080i, there's enough bandwidth for both. The newer compression technique is needed for what KOLN may do -- 1080i, 720p, and 480i on the same channel.

Has anybody done a side by side comparing OTA to Cox? I know that OTA is supposed to be higher quality (less compression...) but I was curious if anybody has done an A/B comparison. I tried but I could not get my QAM tuner to pull in the Cox feed.

KETV and WOWT

I was just on Ketv.com and they have links to stories on WOWT.com and omaha.com how strange.

KETV and WOWT

I was just on Ketv.com and they have links to stories on WOWT.com and omaha.com how strange.

Internet Broadcasting Systems (which manages KETV.com as well as other Hearst-Argyle television properties' sites) is now aggregating news from other area news sites in the Local News section. I noticed KCCI.com for central Iowa was doing the same thing earlier today.

KTVG Channel 17 (Fox) will remain full-power analog until sometime in late March.

From: http://www.kearneyhub.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20260061&BRD=268&PAG=461&dept_id=577571&rfi=6

I hate to do this but does anyone, in or near omaha, have a Elemental Designs powered subwoofer I could possible listen. Feel free to PM me if you do or know someone that does.
Thanks

Question... I noticed tonight when watching the NC-Duke game on ESPNHD that whenever I switched channels an icon saying "One moment please" with a little clock pops up in the upper right corner. Anyone else notice this? Also, the colors seem to be off in the guide itself - there used to be color shading for movies, sports, etc, and now that appears to be gone. Anyone else experience this, or is there something wrong with my DVR? I even unplugged it and let it reload, with the same results. Just wondering if Cox is updating software and it isn't worked out yet, or if there is something more to it.

On other note, if anyone would know... I'm also receiving a green line that runs along the right edge of my TV from top to bottom. At first I thought this had something to do with my DVR, but when I unplug the HDMI cable and plug it into another HDMI port the line goes away. Of course, I thought then there was something wrong with the new TV, but when I switched my Blu-ray player to that port the line didn't reappear on either HDMI port. Could it possibly be interference? I've received a lot of digitizing lately, especially on FOXHD while watching 24.

Question... I noticed tonight when watching the NC-Duke game on ESPNHD that whenever I switched channels an icon saying "One moment please" with a little clock pops up in the upper right corner. Anyone else notice this? Also, the colors seem to be off in the guide itself - there used to be color shading for movies, sports, etc, and now that appears to be gone. Anyone else experience this, or is there something wrong with my DVR? I even unplugged it and let it reload, with the same results. Just wondering if Cox is updating software and it isn't worked out yet, or if there is something more to it.

On other note, if anyone would know... I'm also receiving a green line that runs along the right edge of my TV from top to bottom. At first I thought this had something to do with my DVR, but when I unplug the HDMI cable and plug it into another HDMI port the line goes away. Of course, I thought then there was something wrong with the new TV, but when I switched my Blu-ray player to that port the line didn't reappear on either HDMI port. Could it possibly be interference? I've received a lot of digitizing lately, especially on FOXHD while watching 24.

we got updated software lastnight. the dvr guides never had color coding.

The FCC has released a list of stations that need to demonstrate compliance to some guidelines -- mainly in the area of public awareness and assistance -- by Friday, February 13th in order to be allowed to shut off analog on Tuesday, February 17th.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-09-7A2.pdf

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-09-7A1.pdf

In Nebraska, stations potentially affected are KOLN, KLKN, KHGI, KSNB, KWNB, and KNOP.

One of the requirements is that there remain at least one analog service in each market area. Unless they consider KTVG (Grand Island) + KWAZ-LP (Lincoln) sufficient, it looks like either KLKN or KOLN will have to stay on until 6/12 if I'm reading this right.

Personally, I find this whole delay ridiculous. Analog should have already been shut off, even back at the originally-proposed 2006 deadline. A few more months isn't going to make much difference. And really, TV is NOT as vital as some are making it to be. There are other ways of getting news, as well as weather alerts. It's not the same as a food crisis -- which is what some are equating it to now, by even setting up "converter box donation sites" and calling on church leaders, even, to incorporate DTV-related messages into their services!

I mean, if people want to be generous and donate boxes and assistance, great. That's wonderful that they want to help out and all. But it's not the crisis that it's being hyped up to be. Who knows. Maybe if a few people DO lose analog service and haven't hooked up digital yet, more time spent with family and friends, reading, exercising, etc. could be the best thing to happen to them in a long time. There will also be some that don't believe it's really happening until the analog is gone. I say shut it off and let's get on with DTV.

/end rant/

we got updated software lastnight. the dvr guides never had color coding.

Weird. Thought they did... do the regular HD boxes have color coding, or am I just going completely nuts?

Weird. Thought they did... do the regular HD boxes have color coding, or am I just going completely nuts?

the hd do have color coding along with the regular boxes.

what model of cox box do you have?

I don't see no special color coding on the guide in my box and I have a 3416 box.

The FCC has released a list of stations that need to demonstrate compliance to some guidelines -- mainly in the area of public awareness and assistance -- by Friday, February 13th in order to be allowed to shut off analog on Tuesday, February 17th.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-09-7A2.pdf

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-09-7A1.pdf

In Nebraska, stations potentially affected are KOLN, KLKN, KHGI, KSNB, KWNB, and KNOP.
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/end rant/
KNOP switched off analog on Tuesday the 10th.

I don't see no special color coding on the guide in my box and I have a 3416 box.

that's a dvr so there is no color coding.

http://www.macrovision.com/products/system_operators/ipg_so/passport_dct.htm runs on regular and hd

http://www.macrovision.com/products/system_operators/ipg_so/passport_echo.htm

dvr

KNOP switched off analog on Tuesday the 10th.

Yes, it's perplexing that the FCC included KNOP on the list, since they had previously said that any station with prior authorization to end analog before 2/17 could still move forward with that plan with no extra requirements. Then again, the FCC seems to be changing its rules every other business day.

Yes, it's perplexing that the FCC included KNOP on the list, since they had previously said that any station with prior authorization to end analog before 2/17 could still move forward with that plan with no extra requirements. Then again, the FCC seems to be changing its rules every other business day.FCC lists have been known to have an occasional error or two in them.

I remember seeing WHO being listed as being in "Moline, IN" once -- wrong city, wrong state, and with one of the nation's most famous call signs, no less.

Question... I noticed tonight when watching the NC-Duke game on ESPNHD that whenever I switched channels an icon saying "One moment please" with a little clock pops up in the upper right corner. Anyone else notice this? Also, the colors seem to be off in the guide itself - there used to be color shading for movies, sports, etc, and now that appears to be gone. Anyone else experience this, or is there something wrong with my DVR? I even unplugged it and let it reload, with the same results. Just wondering if Cox is updating software and it isn't worked out yet, or if there is something more to it.

On other note, if anyone would know... I'm also receiving a green line that runs along the right edge of my TV from top to bottom. At first I thought this had something to do with my DVR, but when I unplug the HDMI cable and plug it into another HDMI port the line goes away. Of course, I thought then there was something wrong with the new TV, but when I switched my Blu-ray player to that port the line didn't reappear on either HDMI port. Could it possibly be interference? I've received a lot of digitizing lately, especially on FOXHD while watching 24.
I'm seeing the green line also. I just adjusted the horizontal position to move it off screen.
I seem to remember having a similar light blue line on the left in the past. My horizontal position was set to -2, now it's +3.

KOLN is continuing with the analog shutoff on 2/17, but KLKN is going to wait until 6/12.

Also KCWL has decided to flash-cut sometime in March.

Thats BAD NEWS
I was hoping to use my VHF only Ant to get that Retro TV on KLKN channel 8.2 (sub channel), now I have to wait till June. Trying to get it with UHF wile also pointing to Omaha is hard.

For some strange reason when I point my UHF to get Lincoln, the Omaha stations come in bad. I have a UHF/VHF splitter so once Lincoln moves to all VHF I can point one to Lincoln and an other to Omaha. I have tried TWO UHFs but then I get other problems.

Any ideas for a temp solution? Retro TV on 8.2 has some good old shows.

I just wondered since cox is moving Iowa PBS to digital 113 plus adding IPTV Learns – channel 114
IPTV World – channel 115
PBS HD – channel 713

on the 17th

Cox is not moving the Iowa PBS nor adding IPBS channels until June now

If nothing else the delay by KLKN ensures there won't be a conflict between analog 7 and digital 8 being on at the same time.

KOLN actually just moved their transition date up. Instead of noon on Tuesday, it's 11:50 PM Monday.

Any word as to when KOLN is actually going to turn on digital channel 10? I assume that they have to change some things, and that it'll be a few hours/days before the digital signal goes up full power on 10. (Aren't they at a reduced power on a UHF channel right now?)

Any word as to when KOLN is actually going to turn on digital channel 10? I assume that they have to change some things, and that it'll be a few hours/days before the digital signal goes up full power on 10. (Aren't they at a reduced power on a UHF channel right now?)

They're full power on UHF 25.

Their website seems to indicate they'll be on VHF 10 by just after 11:50 PM Monday, but while it may take longer than that I assume they'll be back on sometime Tuesday.

The signal on 25 wasn't reduced enough to cause any reception problems down here this afternoon.

FSN HD is on tonight. I'm watching the Carolina-Miami game right now.

FSN HD is on tonight. I'm watching the Carolina-Miami game right now.

I wish FSNHD was a full 24 hour channel already.

Well FSN needs to get on the ball with going all out HD on everything they do.

Well FSN needs to get on the ball with going all out HD on everything they do.
I doubt FSN is going to redub their library of "Best *** Sports Show" and poker shows into HD...

I received an email from Mr. Gudgel of KOLN this afternoon and he wrote that KOLN will be switching at 11:50 PM tonight and that the switch should take about three minutes. He didn't say whether there would be any special sign-off/sign-on video for the switch. If there is, I hope someone records it and posts it on YouTube or someplace as I'm heading for bed and I'm 12 miles from the OTA TV!

Hopefully once channel 10 koln switches tonight, they will then start working on the mystery NEW network sub channel that is rumored soon.

Anyone heard anything new on it?

Hopefully once channel 10 koln switches tonight, they will then start working on the mystery NEW network sub channel that is rumored soon.

Or 'flip the switch' on local HD. They have HD in-studio, as seen on the TVs/monitors surrounding the anchors during the newscasts, so it's about time for that HD to make its way to the transmitter. :cool:

NET update:
KYNE, KHNE, and KLNE will all shut off analog at noon today. In addition, expect power upgrades today at KUON/Lincoln, KMNE/Bassett, KPNE/North Platte, KRNE/Merriman, KTNE/Alliance and KXNE/Norfolk.

The signal on 25 wasn't reduced enough to cause any reception problems down here this afternoon.

youre lucky

I live in mid-town Omaha and I cant get KOLN on 25 at all

I wish KOLN would increase it's signal.


it should be only fair that we get Lincoln's ABC and CBS stations

since Lincoln get's Omaha's CBS and ABC stations

any word if Omaha's LPTV stations plan to upgrade any time soon to Digital


i.e. any word on when K19HT-D and KOHA-LD and K16HM-D will broadcast finally

Hasn't KOLN/KGIN switched now? The new VHF signals should be up, according to their website...

- Trip

Hasn't KOLN/KGIN switched now? The new VHF signals should be up, according to their website...

- Trip


I can confirm KOLN has switched and is now digital only on channel 10. Of course I picked up their UHF channel much better than I do the VHF one (even with UHF pointed toward Omaha)

Hasn't KOLN/KGIN switched now? The new VHF signals should be up, according to their website...

- Trip

Yes, I just got a call from someone in Gretna, NE who is now getting KOLN-DT well on VHF 10. It's back on. He said he's not getting digital 31 (KLKN) now, though, and reception is normally solid. Wonder if something got shut off that shouldn't have been shut off...

I captured analog video of the WOWT sign-off. Encoding it and I'll get it uploaded here.

edit: http://idisk.mac.com/joelwnelson-Public/WOWT-Analog-Signoff.mp4?disposition=download+1602

Yes, I just got a call from someone in Gretna, NE who is now getting KOLN-DT well on VHF 10. It's back on. He said he's not getting digital 31 (KLKN) now, though, and reception is normally solid. Wonder if something got shut off that shouldn't have been shut off...

I'm still getting KLKN and as far as I can tell, it's still on 31.

My Primetime Ondemand delayed again until March hopefully.

Yes, I just got a call from someone in Gretna, NE who is now getting KOLN-DT well on VHF 10. It's back on. He said he's not getting digital 31 (KLKN) now, though, and reception is normally solid. Wonder if something got shut off that shouldn't have been shut off...

glad the folks in Gretna can get KOLN

in the Benson or Dundee areas of Omaha you cant get KOLN or KLKN at all.

PBS channel 26 when digital today exactly at noon


when it KXVO upgrading cause the channel and its sub-station

sometimes goes in and out on my converter box

I captured analog video of the WOWT sign-off. Encoding it and I'll get it uploaded here.

edit: http://idisk.mac.com/joelwnelson-Public/WOWT-Analog-Signoff.mp4?disposition=download+1602

saw it at noon when it happened. was intresting though

Interesting vid of the analog shut off.

Any one able to get KOLN on a DirecTV HD DVR? You cant scan on there boxes you have to wait for the ZIP code table to update.
No channel 10

I was out at the folk's place around 6 PM and did a rescan and 10 is coming in very nicely, stronger than on 25. While I could watch 8 DTV as it was just after sundown, 8 analog was still its usually weak self (8 and 10 are within a couple of degrees azimuth from our location), so I don't think propagation was favoring 10 this evening so I expect that we'll have a good strong DTV signal in the future.

Congrats on making the transition, KOLN.

Is KOLN 10 Digital even at full power?

I am showing a 50% reduction.

I connected up a stand a lone Digital Box (not directv based).

I am Sarpy county.

Used to be able to get KOLN digital 25 fine all the time. Now it wont lock. There is something there but it very low. I have a 100 mile range VHF with an amp.

Update: I also tried 3 other antenna and an other tuner. Still about 50% less than what it was on UHF. THey need to increase power to get back to the same coverage area that had before. This is NOT good. Hope KLKN does not have the same issues. VHF is just not as good as UHF.

I captured analog video of the WOWT sign-off. Encoding it and I'll get it uploaded here.

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Also found it interesting...analog shutdown deserves a bit of ceremony.

Old station slates make nice screen backgrounds; I've been using the backlit 6 slate shown in the video for a few weeks now. A little pixelated but it smooths out nice.

First off I would like to say hello to all of you from the metro area, I am posting here for the first time after lurking for awhile with a question regarding the Palladia channel on Cox channel 840. I have noticed that on HD program material there is a vertical white line on the far left of my display that I can only assume is underscan? Is anyone else getting this on this channel?
FWIW I have a Panny 58pz850u fed by Motorola DCH3416 box and using the HDMI connection to the set.

First off I would like to say hello to all of you from the metro area, I am posting here for the first time after lurking for awhile with a question regarding the Palladia channel on Cox channel 840. I have noticed that on HD program material there is a vertical white line on the far left of my display that I can only assume is underscan? Is anyone else getting this on this channel?
FWIW I have a Panny 58pz850u fed by Motorola DCH3416 box and using the HDMI connection to the set.

no white line on a DCT3416 with HDMI connection.

Any one able to get KOLN on a DirecTV HD DVR? You cant scan on there boxes you have to wait for the ZIP code table to update.
No channel 10

Not as of yesterday evening, no.

With an HR20-700 I'm getting 11-1 KGIN but not 11-2 MyTV. 11-2 shows up on the guide but no reception. Also getting 13-1 (KHGI) but not 13-2 (KTVG). 13-1 shows up on the guide but 13-2 does not. 13-1 has constant dropouts. Anyone else seeing this? Trying to determine if I'm getting too much signal or if it's on their end. With a converter box I can get 11-1 & 2 and 13-1 & 2 with just a few dropouts on 13-1.

KGIN analog went off at midnight on Monday night. KHGI analog at 9 am Tuesday and KHNE & KLNE went off at noon Tuesday. The only analog I can find now is KTVG FOX 17 plus some low power stations - 56 (GI TV), 35 (KNOP translator - Lexington) 55 (KOLN translator - Cozad).

I am not sure just what is going on with 10-1 and 10-2 on DirecTv HD DVR's. I have two HR20-700 boxes and re-scanned OTA yesterday. 10-1 comes in fine on both boxes (although signal strength is only 60-70%) but 10-2 comes up searching for signal, even though signal strengths are the same as 10-1. If I bypass the satellite box, 10-2 comes in fine. I have heard that DirecTv boxes need a strong signal, but with the same signal strength on both channels, it doesn't make sense to me that one comes in and the other has nothing.

With signal problems I am having with KTVG on the dish, I am hoping something is coming soon with the Fox/10-2 rumors.

Is KOLN 10 Digital even at full power?

I am showing a 50% reduction.



I live in the Benson/Dundee area of Douglas County and we only once in a while get KOLN 10 here

so I dont know if it is at full power

What is cox issuing for the digital boxes now. Are they still issuing the DCT2000 or did they get the DCT 2500?

I am not sure just what is going on with 10-1 and 10-2 on DirecTv HD DVR's. I have two HR20-700 boxes and re-scanned OTA yesterday. 10-1 comes in fine on both boxes (although signal strength is only 60-70%) but 10-2 comes up searching for signal, even though signal strengths are the same as 10-1. If I bypass the satellite box, 10-2 comes in fine. I have heard that DirecTv boxes need a strong signal, but with the same signal strength on both channels, it doesn't make sense to me that one comes in and the other has nothing.

With signal problems I am having with KTVG on the dish, I am hoping something is coming soon with the Fox/10-2 rumors.

I had the same problem on one of my Dish boxes yesterday. One box could see 10-1 and 10-2, but the other could only see 10-2. After tech support "reauthorized" my box (some signal sent to it...I had tried a hard reset already), it worked fine. You might call DirecTV and see if they have something similar that they need to do?

In the Topeka thread there are a couple of posters describing problems with 13.2 not decoding on some DirecTV hardware. So far I've not seen where it has been resolved.

===KOLN 10.1 ============

I did something similar like what Opusnbill7 suggested except with DireCT you can do it on your own.

What you do is go to the antenna setup and do a reset.
Then reset up the antenna with the new Zip codes

CONFIRMED, the 10.2 sub channel does not work on DireCTV- must be a bug like in the other City forum.

10.1 on VHF has a real bad signal issue, I think they call it multipathing or something, signal goes up and down. Anyone know how to fix that?
When it was on UHF it did not do this ever.

First off I would like to say hello to all of you from the metro area, I am posting here for the first time after lurking for awhile with a question regarding the Palladia channel on Cox channel 840. I have noticed that on HD program material there is a vertical white line on the far left of my display that I can only assume is underscan? Is anyone else getting this on this channel?
FWIW I have a Panny 58pz850u fed by Motorola DCH3416 box and using the HDMI connection to the set.

I'm not sure if your Panny is a LCD or plasma, so this may not help. I had a green line running down the right side of my Samsung LCD on a lot of channels, using the HD DVR from Cox and an HDMI cable. I found out on another message board that this happens if my TV is set to "just scan" instead of 16:9. If your TV has this, perhaps you should check to make sure it is set at 16:9 on the picture size.

I'm a newbie so I don't know a lot, but I know the tv problems I had were similar to yours, and that was how I was able to resolve my problem. Hope it helps. Good luck.

Yes that is normal on that music channel, I tried to email them but they dont answer, would hate to get screen burn in from that line.

The fix is to not use just scan or for some TVs put it to 16x9

Thanks for the reply HDNewbie, The television is a plasma and I have the picture format set to "full" the channel is output at 1080i to the set. This is the only channel that I have this problem on. The odd thing is that it doesn't do it during commercials and it will sometimes go away for a min or two during the program. It is quite annoying lol.

===KOLN 10.1 ============

10.1 on VHF has a real bad signal issue, I think they call it multipathing or something, signal goes up and down. Anyone know how to fix that?
When it was on UHF it did not do this ever.

Last night I was getting about 65% on KLKN 31 and between 40% and 55% on KOLN 10 when testing west of Omaha. On channel 25 KOLN would be in the 75-85% range. Now, granted, the indoor antenna I used is one of those marketed for indoor HDTV reception and thus is fair on UHF but poor on VHF despite being labeled as UHF/VHF. As was the case with KUON, the effective coverage area seems to have decreased for anyone without a good VHF antenna.

VHF DTV is a bad idea. :p

Thanks for the responses and here is the latest:

I had the same problem on one of my Dish boxes yesterday. One box could see 10-1 and 10-2, but the other could only see 10-2. After tech support "reauthorized" my box (some signal sent to it...I had tried a hard reset already), it worked fine. You might call DirecTV and see if they have something similar that they need to do?

After resetting antenna setup, rbr, and refreshing service on web site, I called D* this morning. Was on with them for a while and was finally told that their hd dvr boxes need a strong signal to recognize a channel, but could not get them to provide what an "adequate" signal strength would be. I also advised that I get the same signal strength for 10-2 as 10-1 (which fluctuates between 68% - 82%, used to be a fairly stready 100%) and asked if that were the case, why did 10-1 come in flawlessly yet 10-2 gets nothing. The best they could do was to say that this may just be the beginning stages of a more widespread problem and, in time, a solution may be forthcoming. Although he said it would not do anything for my problem, I asked him to re-authorize service, which he said he did, but it did not fix anything. Looks like I am in "sucks to be me" mode for now.


===KOLN 10.1 ============

CONFIRMED, the 10.2 sub channel does not work on DireCTV- must be a bug like in the other City forum.

If so, I won't stress about it at this time. I thought by some other posts that some were receiving it through their D* boxes, but after review, my reading comprehension needs improvement. :D

Anything in the works for a fix?

I found in a sister forum to this site for DBS that the DirecTV HD DVR CAN in fact get sub channels on VHF high so there is no reason why 10.2 is not working other than they do not have the data typed in correctly.

One other thread said to have the station engineer call to get it fixed. Im at work if anyone want to call him here is the contact info.

An other idea is to call DireCTV back and say you *NOW* have the signal at 100% on 10.1 and 10.2 and then again ask them to fix the data entry for 10.2.

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Sub Channel fix


You can't "see" it. It is embedded.

There are typically only two distinct issues in this thread.

1. A physical channel number for a listed virtual channel (x.1, etc.) has changed, most like as a result of a DTV station completing the digital transition. If this happens and the channel is listed at zap2it.com and appears in the guide, but it no longer tunes. The solution is to contact the station manager or engineer and have them contact Tribune. The contact that worked for us here in New Orleans for this situation is Eamon Foster (518-792-9914 x2281).

2. A new subchannel has been added and does not appear at zap2it.com or in the guide. If this happens, contact the station manager or engineer and have them contact Tribune Media Services and have the new channel listed.

Last night was the first time in months I was able to pick up KUON-DT on channel 12 from West Omaha. Very low signal strength, but then again, I don't have an antenna pointed west. KEYC-TV (Mankato channel 12) is still on the air, so I'm not sure they've bumped up their power.

First off I would like to say hello to all of you from the metro area, I am posting here for the first time after lurking for awhile with a question regarding the Palladia channel on Cox channel 840. I have noticed that on HD program material there is a vertical white line on the far left of my display that I can only assume is underscan? Is anyone else getting this on this channel?
FWIW I have a Panny 58pz850u fed by Motorola DCH3416 box and using the HDMI connection to the set.

You need to go into Advanced Picture settings and change your screen size to HD Size 1. Size 2 is Just Scan/Dot By Dot mode. Palladia apparently hasn't gotten the memo to send a full picture yet :rolleyes:

You need to go into Advanced Picture settings and change your screen size to HD Size 1. Size 2 is Just Scan/Dot By Dot mode. Palladia apparently hasn't gotten the memo to send a full picture yet :rolleyes:

Thanks, I'll give that a try. At least now I know I am not the only one that has this issue and that was my main concern.

KOLN (CBS ) is working good now, stronger signal than ever before when in UHF. Maybe its the weather or maybe they did something.

Still no channel 10.2 (MyTV) on DirecTV. Doing the Antenna re setup does not help. We need to go to there site and open problem tickets (email them a support question and you will get a ticket number emailed back the next day, then they will work on it).

To open a ticket, here is the link. Be sure to say your signal is very strong on 10.2 and you did a re setup.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=1100070

I still cant get KOLN.


Until we can get the signal in East Omaha as clearly as folks in West O do



I wont believe that KOLN's signal is better cause I only get it once in a while

and that was both before and after the singal was upgraded

I should mention, TO get KOLN stronger than ever, I did have to switch to a VHF only antenna, I used a UHF / VHF splitter-combiner and connected my UHF antenna pointing towards OMaha with it and a 2nd VHD antenna pointing to Lincoln.

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Tech Details= VHF points to Lincoln and the UHF antenna points towards Omaha both antennas combined with a splitter/combiner, all going to a 7777 channel master amp.
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Some may have an UHF VHF combo as most DTV stations are on UHF. These are not as good as they are made to do both and are not optimized.

KOLN kind of went backwards in there upgrade. There HDTV was on UHF. Now its on VHF channel 10.

Soon Lincolns ABC will do the same thing going back to there VHF, this is causing lots of confusion as most bought Digital Antennas optimized for UHF which is what MOST of the country is switching to.

Did KETV have an outage? Cox lost ABCHD and Weather Now.

Did KETV have an outage? Cox lost ABCHD and Weather Now.
There was a power failure downtown this morning around 7 am, and the KETV studios were in the area that lost power.

There was a power failure downtown this morning around 7 am, and the KETV studios were in the area that lost power.

Surprised they wouldn't have a generator....

Any one getting KOLN channel 10.2 on a DirecTV HD DVR yet?

10.1 works. On other forums they say it may be hit or miss with receivers. Just wondering if something is wrong with my box.

Late last week, KGIN DT 11.2 started working again on my Directv HD DVR

Late last week, KGIN DT 11.2 started working again on my Directv HD DVR

Same here.

Same here.

Wonder what the deal was on that? Was it Directv messing up? Did 10/11 forget to tell Directv that 10.2/11.2 were now going to be on their VHF corresponding VHF frequency on 2/17? Or was Directv so overwhelmed with channel changes on 2/17 that they got to the subchannel changes later?

Well, I have about reached the point of giving up on 10/11. I have two D* boxes (both hr20-700). After re-scanning after 2/17, both got 10-1 but neither got 10-2 with signal strength fluctuating between 65%-80%. I bypassed the D* box and could pick up 10-2 on one tv (didn't check the other). D* csr said OTA was out of their control and 10-11 said they were not aware of any problems. Research showed D* boxes were not picking up 10-2, so waited until it worked for all. Sometime later I noticed signal strengths had gone up to 85%-90%, so re-set channels, but still no 10-2. No problem since it still seemed to be all D* boxes.

Checking this morning, I was pleased to find out box B got both 10-1 and 10-2 with signal strengths of 65%-80%. Unfortunately, box A not only does not get 10-2, but now does not receive 10-1 and shows signal strengths of 0%. Nothing else had been changed and KLKN (and subs) and KHNE (and subs) all come in over the same antenna and cabling at a signal strength of 95%-100%.

I re-set antenna setup, did a hard boot of the D* box and then another antenna re-set, and refreshed service on D*'s website all to no avail.

So the questions are what are others now experiencing with 10-1 and 10-2 and any suggestions on anything else I can do? All help/suggestions greatly appreciated.

I have the HR20-100 and when KOLN went to VHF, I figured that was it. I don't (didn't) think the SAT boxes picked up VHF over-the-air. I thought it was strictly UHF, so I was surprised some of you are able to get 10.1!

Guess I ought to do a rescan and see if I get it again.

KOLN on DirecTV update 10.1 and 10.2

It just started working, I did not have to do anything.

For those with issues, best to do a antenna reset, then re set up and re enter the zip code.

I guess my rant yesterday paid off! Got up this morning and without changing a thing, 10-1 and 10-2 are coming in on both boxes with a signal strength in the 90's. Now we will see if it remains stable and dependable so the Mrs. does not miss another recording. When momma aint happy, nobody's happy.

When in North Platte yesterday, I scanned for channels using a portable VHF/UHF antenna (marketed as a "HDTV antenna" at Best Buy) and an Elgato eyeTV USB device. On the digital side of things, had a decent signal from KPNE-DT 9 from over 20 miles away -- in the 75% range -- but a barely watchable 45% signal on KNOP-DT 2, less than two miles south of downtown North Platte (north of I-80). Less than 10 miles west-southwest of North Platte the signal strength was barely 25%, or hardly even showing up in eyeTV as an available signal let alone being able to lock it in and receive the PSIP data.

I'm sure the main issue is my so-called VHF/UHF antenna really isn't strong on VHF, especially low VHF. However, I imagine many others are experiencing this too; not everyone has a rooftop or attic antenna and even those who do can't easily just pack it up and go on the road.

Anyone know of a good portable VHF antenna? Mine gets the job done for UHF and is fair for high VHF (again, despite being marketed as a VHF/UHF "slim profile" antenna), but if I want to pick up NBC in central or southwest Nebraska when I am out that way, I'm going to need something better.

Also despite indication on some sites that KNOP-DT is relaying K11TW ("KIIT") Fox 11 on a digital subchannel, I didn't see it. On a scan I only got 2.1, 9.1, 9.2, and 9.3. Unless 2.2 exists and the signal was still too weak for eyeTV to lock it in long enough to receive the subchannel data, which I have seen happen before with this software if the signal is bad.

When in North Platte yesterday, I scanned for channels using a portable VHF/UHF antenna (marketed as a "HDTV antenna" at Best Buy) and an Elgato eyeTV USB device. On the digital side of things, had a decent signal from KPNE-DT 9 from over 20 miles away -- in the 75% range -- but a barely watchable 45% signal on KNOP-DT 2, less than two miles south of downtown North Platte (north of I-80). Less than 10 miles west-southwest of North Platte the signal strength was barely 25%, or hardly even showing up in eyeTV as an available signal let alone being able to lock it in and receive the PSIP data.

I'm sure the main issue is my so-called VHF/UHF antenna really isn't strong on VHF, especially low VHF. However, I imagine many others are experiencing this too; not everyone has a rooftop or attic antenna and even those who do can't easily just pack it up and go on the road.

I'm sure I sound like a broken record by now, but I can't stand low-VHF. Channel 2 is the WORST channel KNOP could have chosen.

Hopefully Hoak will learn their lesson and move, fast. Same for KHAS. And for the bank which owns KSNB and KWNB. Just wait until summer thunderstorms float around.

Anyone know of a good portable VHF antenna? Mine gets the job done for UHF and is fair for high VHF (again, despite being marketed as a VHF/UHF "slim profile" antenna), but if I want to pick up NBC in central or southwest Nebraska when I am out that way, I'm going to need something better.

The problem is that any decent low-VHF antenna is HUGE. The wavelength on channel 3 is 111 inches, and you really can't do much to shrink that down. I needed an antenna for upper VHF and made myself an upper-VHF bowtie (cut for channel 11) but I couldn't even imagine what a low-VHF bowtie would be in terms of size.

For low-VHF, I usually just carry a generic set of rabbit ears. No fancy features, just the ears.

Also despite indication on some sites that KNOP-DT is relaying K11TW ("KIIT") Fox 11 on a digital subchannel, I didn't see it. On a scan I only got 2.1, 9.1, 9.2, and 9.3. Unless 2.2 exists and the signal was still too weak for eyeTV to lock it in long enough to receive the subchannel data, which I have seen happen before with this software if the signal is bad.

The eyeTV is made for Mac OS, right? Do you happen to have a Windows partition on it or anything?

And was 2-1 in 1080i or just 480i?

- Trip

The eyeTV is made for Mac OS, right? Do you happen to have a Windows partition on it or anything?

Some eyeTV devices have Hauppauge chipsets and are also Windows-compatible, but not my eyeTV Hybrid 2009. It's Mac-only.

I do have a Windows partition but no TV/media software installed on that partition.



And was 2-1 in 1080i or just 480i?

- Trip

Couldn't keep the signal long enough to tell. Daytime shows (not in HD) were on so the aspect ratio was 4:3. Didn't have enough time to capture a full screenshot and check it in Preview or Photoshop to see the actual resolution, unfortunately.

Some eyeTV devices have Hauppauge chipsets and are also Windows-compatible, but not my eyeTV Hybrid 2009. It's Mac-only.

I do have a Windows partition but no TV/media software installed on that partition.

Gah, that's what I was betting on. Any idea what chipset's in it? I'm finding it hard to believe they'd go out of their way to make Mac-only hardware when it'd be just as easy to make it compatible.

Almost every tuner that isn't the On-Air or the Hauppauge is compatible with the ATSCBDASource driver for TSReader, which is why I ask. I've been searching for someone who could get me, at the bare minimum, TSReader data for Nebraska PBS. It's one of the last statewide PBS networks for which I have absolutely no data.

- Trip

I'm sure I sound like a broken record by now, but I can't stand low-VHF. Channel 2 is the WORST channel KNOP could have chosen. Hopefully Hoak will learn their lesson and move, fast. Same for KHAS. And for the bank which owns KSNB and KWNB. Just wait until summer thunderstorms float around.
- Trip

I wrote to KHAS and Hoak stating my concern about wind, ice, large antenna size, thunderstorms etc. but it fell on deaf ears.

I have been able to receive the channel 5 signal without dropouts from 40 miles away at a relatives house but that was with a large outdoor antenna at 35 feet above ground level. When the storms move in it will be unwatchable.

KSNB and KWNB switched back to low band relatively late in the game so that took me by surprise.

I guess my rant yesterday paid off! Got up this morning and without changing a thing, 10-1 and 10-2 are coming in on both boxes with a signal strength in the 90's. Now we will see if it remains stable and dependable so the Mrs. does not miss another recording. When momma aint happy, nobody's happy.

That's what I get for using the terms "stable" and "dependable" in the same sentence with 10-1 and/or 10-2. The same D* box went out last evening, but is now picking up the signal this morning. Seems it requires a signal strength over 80% to recognize a signal at all. Doubtful D* would replace the box (if in fact that is the problem), so looks like I am down to KLKN and PBS for OTA reception. I guess momma will be happy with KOLN over sat, but when T-storms start up soon and dish goes out, things could get a little ugly around here. :D

My KOLN on Directv over the air works fine with a signal average of 45%

That's what I get for using the terms "stable" and "dependable" in the same sentence with 10-1 and/or 10-2. The same D* box went out last evening, but is now picking up the signal this morning. Seems it requires a signal strength over 80% to recognize a signal at all. Doubtful D* would replace the box (if in fact that is the problem), so looks like I am down to KLKN and PBS for OTA reception. I guess momma will be happy with KOLN over sat, but when T-storms start up soon and dish goes out, things could get a little ugly around here. :D

WOWT now has a HD package for Severe Weather Alerts. Saw it this morning while Today was on in HD. Didn't have enough time to snap a pic, but I'm sure it'll be back soon with spring in Nebraska.

13.2 KTVG Fox is now coming in over-the-air on my DirecTV box. (HR20-700)

13.2 KTVG Fox is now coming in over-the-air on my DirecTV box. (HR20-700)


Wow, that's surprising newz. I would've thought that since 13.2 was a repeat of 17.1, we wouldn't have seen 13.2 as an OTA option like 8.2 & 11.2. Thanks for the update.

Almost every tuner that isn't the On-Air or the Hauppauge is compatible with the ATSCBDASource driver for TSReader, which is why I ask. I've been searching for someone who could get me, at the bare minimum, TSReader data for Nebraska PBS. It's one of the last statewide PBS networks for which I have absolutely no data.

- Trip

Is it possible to get the data if I record a MPEG/2 stream from NET-HD, or is the actual ATSC stream needed? Or I can try and see if the Elgato eyeTV device will run under the Windows partition when I have a free moment...

WOWT now has a HD package for Severe Weather Alerts. Saw it this morning while Today was on in HD. Didn't have enough time to snap a pic, but I'm sure it'll be back soon with spring in Nebraska.

Got it.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7629/hdwowtwx.jpg

anyone know if cox is testing new hd or are they going to wait until the new analog cutoff to add hd/digital. they also just added channel 962 special private. I wonder what that will be used for?

Is it possible to get the data if I record a MPEG/2 stream from NET-HD, or is the actual ATSC stream needed? Or I can try and see if the Elgato eyeTV device will run under the Windows partition when I have a free moment...

If you could capture the full transport stream, that will do the trick, but I don't think it's possible to do with the Elgato.

Try it in Windows when you get a chance (no rush). Grab TSReader Lite and try running it with the ATSCBDASource driver, failing that, try the HCWATSC driver anyway just to be sure.

I think TSReader accesses hardware independent of Windows drivers.

- Trip

Simple request... if you are reporting on your ability to pick up certain stations over the air, remind us where you are at.

It's one thing to say you are getting KOLN-DT at x% from, say Milford. It's another thing to say you are getting it at x% from Papillion.

Its almost March.

Anyone hear anything more about the sub channel on KOLN

I see the web site fox1011.com still auto links to kolnkgin.com

Simple request... if you are reporting on your ability to pick up certain stations over the air, remind us where you are at.

It's one thing to say you are getting KOLN-DT at x% from, say Milford. It's another thing to say you are getting it at x% from Papillion.

okay.


I get KOLN at 0 percent in the Benson/Dundee area


here is what I get from the Benson/Dundee area with my digital box:

3.1 KMTV-DT CBS Omaha (45)
6.1 WOWT-DT NBC Omaha (22)
6.2 WOWT-DT2 Univ. Sports Omaha (22)


7.1 KETV-DT ABC Omaha (20)
7.2 KETV-DT2 Weather Omaha (20)


15.1 KXVO-DT CW Omaha (38)
15.2 KXVO-DT2 Azteca Omaha (38)


26.1 KYNE-DT PBS Omaha (17)
26.2 KYNE-DT2 PBS Omaha (17)
26.3 KYNE-DT3 Create Omaha (17)


32.1 KBIN-DT PBS Council Bluffs (33)
32.2 KBIN-DT2 Kids/Create Council Bluffs (33)
32.3 KBIN-DT3 PBS World Council Bluffs (33)

42.1 KPTM-DT FOX Omaha (43)
42.2 KPTM-DT2 My Omaha (43)


occasionally you can get on analog 2 LPTV stations


54 aka K54GL which rumors say they are moving to channel 16 aka K16HM-D when that station has to become digital


and 61 aka K61GA (which rumors say they are moving to channel 19 aka K19HT-D when that station has to become digital


but they come in badly

BTW, no word if they go digitial the sub-channels will be on 16 and 19




KOHA-LP channel 48 is off the air.

too bad Telemundo or Univision didnt buy KOHA channel 48 and put something other than a test pattern on.




channel 67 dont exist anymore either, despite

http://northpine.com/broadcast/ne/tv.html

sez it does.

Are you talking Analog OVer the Air or the some day where cable gets ride of analog on cable like one big cable system out east did.
For every analog they turn off, it means space for 4-6 full time HD channels.

anyone know if cox is testing new hd or are they going to wait until the new analog cutoff to add hd/digital. they also just added channel 962 special private. I wonder what that will be used for?

Are you talking Analog OVer the Air or the some day where cable gets ride of analog on cable like one big cable system out east did.
For every analog they turn off, it means space for 4-6 full time HD channels.

Cox was suppose to move channel 13 to digital plus add two Iowa PBS sub channels and IPTVHD on the 17th, but since IPTV kept the analog signal till the new date cox changed the date till June.

I remember reading people with Qam tuners saw new cox channel before the cable boxes did.

Cox was suppose to move channel 13 to digital plus add two Iowa PBS sub channels and IPTVHD on the 17th, but since IPTV kept the analog signal till the new date cox changed the date till June.

Why? The IPTV digital signals have been on the air for a few years. It's not like Cox has to wait for anything to become available. Unless it's a thing where they want to make the switch from analog 13 to digital 113-115/713 LOOK like something made necessary by the analog cutoff... rather than explain again the need to drop analogs to make more room for digitals to analog viewers who have all of a sudden lost ch. 13...

From Papillon. Signal strength in parentheses.

I use a UHF / VHF splitter. The UHF antenna is a silver sensor in the atic.

The VHF is a 100 mile VFH/ UFH Antenna also in the Attic I unscrewed and removed the UFH antenna parts making it a VHF only antenna. The UHF would not pass through the splitter anyway.

Using the splitter is key as it allows me to point UHF to Omaha at 72nd and crown point, and the VFH directly to Lincoln's KOLN tower. Using the splitter prevented multi path issues common with Digital TV.

I then use a channel master 7777 amp and split the signal at the end to 3 TVs.
This is all with a Directv HD DVR.


3.1 KMTV-DT CBS Omaha (85)
3.2 why are they so cheap that they dont have a sub channel like others?

I expect channel 3 to get stronger in June. They are at the same tower location as 6 and 7 but they are much weaker as there UHF is 2ndary to there VHF on the tower.

5.1 KHAS No way to get (0)

6.1 WOWT-DT NBC Omaha (95)
6.2 WOWT-DT2 Univ. Sports Omaha (95)


7.1 KETV-DT ABC Omaha (100)
7.2 KETV-DT2 Weather Omaha (100)

8.1 KLKN ABC Lincoln (0) expect to get it once they go to VHF in June
8.2 KLKN ABC Retro TV (0) " "


10.1 KOLN CBS Lincoln (65)
10.2 KOLN MyTV LIncoln (65)

12.1 KYNE-DT PBS Lincoln (90)
12.2 KYNE-DT2 PBS Lincoln (90)
12.3 KYNE-DT3 Create Lincoln (90)

15.1 KXVO-DT CW Omaha (90)
15.2 KXVO-DT2 Azteca Omaha (90)


26.1 KYNE-DT PBS Omaha (60)
26.2 KYNE-DT2 PBS Omaha (60)
26.3 KYNE-DT3 Create Omaha (60)


32.1 KBIN-DT PBS Council Bluffs (0)
32.2 KBIN-DT2 Kids/Create Council Bluffs (0)
32.3 KBIN-DT3 PBS World Council Bluffs (0)

32 is not in the DirecTV zip code mapping so I cant get it

36.1 KBIN-DT PBS Council Bluffs (50)
36.2 KBIN-DT2 Kids/Create Council Bluffs (50)
36.3 KBIN-DT3 PBS World Council Bluffs (50)


42.1 KPTM-DT FOX Omaha (90) Sometimes 100 at night
42.2 KPTM-DT2 My Omaha (90)

I agree, Cox wants and needs to drop analog on cable to make room for more HD. So they plan to pin the removal on the Digital conversion in June. I wish they would remove all Analog and then lease maybe a $2.00 a month basic digital box or something to everyone.


If they did not have any analog they would have room for 70 analog times 4 HD channels per analog removed or 280 more NEW HD channels. Basically they would be 100% HD and the digital box would down convert HD to any none HD TV if used on an old TV.

Did I read the City contract with Cox required them to keep Analog till 2012 or something?

Why? The IPTV digital signals have been on the air for a few years. It's not like Cox has to wait for anything to become available. Unless it's a thing where they want to make the switch from analog 13 to digital 113-115/713 LOOK like something made necessary by the analog cutoff... rather than explain again the need to drop analogs to make more room for digitals to analog viewers who have all of a sudden lost ch. 13...

I agree, Cox wants and needs to drop analog on cable to make room for more HD. So they plan to pin the removal on the Digital conversion in June. I wish they would remove all Analog and then lease maybe a $2.00 a month basic digital box or something to everyone.


If they did not have any analog they would have room for 70 analog times 4 HD channels per analog removed or 280 more NEW HD channels. Basically they would be 100% HD and the digital box would down convert HD to any none HD TV if used on an old TV.

Did I read the City contract with Cox required them to keep Analog till 2012 or something?

I agree Cox and needs to drop analog on cable to make room for more HD


:)



I have said that channel 21 has to go cause it is on 279 also

channel 12 should go since 13 is also going to digital.



channel 18 and 22 should be moved to digital

since the former public access channel 23 is now channel 109

3.2 why are they so cheap that they dont have a sub channel like others?

I dont know.

This TV Network or the Retro Television Network should be on channel 3.2




BTW whoever owns 54 and 61 wont upgrade to digital asap. theyre reception sucks on analog

Why? The IPTV digital signals have been on the air for a few years. It's not like Cox has to wait for anything to become available. Unless it's a thing where they want to make the switch from analog 13 to digital 113-115/713 LOOK like something made necessary by the analog cutoff... rather than explain again the need to drop analogs to make more room for digitals to analog viewers who have all of a sudden lost ch. 13...

Respons from Cox moving channel 13 to digital frees up space to add the IPTV subchannels and IPTVHD.

Every year I look at and compare.

A year ago when I called Cox they were saying they were soon to get multi room viewing MVR where you can record on one DVR and watch on an other box.

Was that all just made up to get me to switch? Any one hear anymore about that with Cox?

DirecTV announce it in there earnings call that they would have it by years end and Dish already has it, but only with SD not HD.

Every year I look at and compare.

A year ago when I called Cox they were saying they were soon to get multi room viewing MVR where you can record on one DVR and watch on an other box.

Was that all just made up to get me to switch? Any one hear anymore about that with Cox?

DirecTV announce it in there earnings call that they would have it by years end and Dish already has it, but only with SD not HD.



MRV probaly put off untill the 1 Ghz upgrade is done.

Respons from Cox moving channel 13 to digital frees up space to add the IPTV subchannels and IPTVHD.

Then why not just do it now? Waiting until June only delays new HD channels (and makes it look to the unassuming analog cable viewer that it was just a necessary casualty of the analog broadcast cutoff).

Then why not just do it now? Waiting until June only delays new HD channels (and makes it look to the unassuming analog cable viewer that it was just a necessary casualty of the analog broadcast cutoff).



I don't think they know what they are doing. Today I got an email saying the digital transition is the reason.:o

I don't think they know what they are doing. Today I got an email saying the digital transition is the reason.:o

Actually, it likely is due to the digital transition. I assume this is still in place since the deadline was extended.

"All major U.S. cable operators have agreed to stop moving nearly all channels from analog to digital tiers during the first two months of 2009 to minimize potential consumer confusion about the federally mandated shut off of over-the-air analog TV signals on Feb. 17, 2009." - Source (http://www.multichannel.com/article/160934-Cable_Ops_Agree_To_Short_Digital_Migration_Freeze.php")

Since nobody else seems to be having the problems I am having, I'll provide additional information in hopes a fix is available.

I am about 20 miles west of Columbus.

Signal strengths as of now:

KMTV 3-1: 0
WOWT 6-1: 0
KETV 7-1: 0
KLKN 8-1 and 8-2: 97%
KOLN 10-1 and 10-2: 72%
KXVO 15-1: 30%
KHNE 29-1: 97%
KPTM 42-1: 46%

Prior to 2/17, using an old vhf/uhf antenna with a power booster (the antenna is old enough, I am unable to determine make or model), I was able to pull in KOLN, KLKN, and KHNE solid with signal strengths of 80% to 100%. I could, on occasion pull in Omaha stations fairly well, but not regularly. Given my location, I was quite satisfied with reception quality as backup for DirecTv service.

Since 2/17 I have had numerous problems with KOLN 10-1 and 10-2 (as noted on prior posts), but KLKN was really solid with signal strengths of 95% to 100%. KHNE has remained solid throughout, but the Omaha stations have been non-existant, which is fine for now. My problems seem to be confined to passing the signal through two HR20-700 DirecTv DVR's.

After returning home last Friday from a brief trip, I find out KLKN 8-2 no longer comes in through either stb, but all KOLN 10-1 and 10-2 are fine. I tried re-setting antenna settings, but still could not get 8-2 even though signal strength showed 95%-100%. A couple days ago, I then lost 10-1 and 10-2, but only on one stb (it showed no signat strength). The other stb was fine and showed signal strengths of 65% to 80%. After figuring it was not going to come back on its own, I did an antenna re-set and got them back, but still do not get 8-2, even though it shows signal strength on both boxes of 95%-100%.

Perhaps there are very few viewers who watch OTA through their stb, so little is known if/when there are problems, but I do and would like things to work like they are supposed to. I am really tired of doing antenna re-sets every couple days on two boxes.

So, at this point. the only dependable OTA channel is PBS KHNE. I thought KOLN was taken care of, but it obviously can go out at any time. And KLKN 8-2 is non-existant. Anybody else having problems with 8-2 with DirecTV (or other providers) and any ideas if/when things may stabilize so a person will know they either get a channel or they don't?

Actually, it likely is due to the digital transition. I assume this is still in place since the deadline was extended.

"All major U.S. cable operators have agreed to stop moving nearly all channels from analog to digital tiers during the first two months of 2009 to minimize potential consumer confusion about the federally mandated shut off of over-the-air analog TV signals on Feb. 17, 2009." - Source (http://www.multichannel.com/article/160934-Cable_Ops_Agree_To_Short_Digital_Migration_Freeze.php")

from Kristen Peck

I hear there is some confusion about why we have not made the changes to IPTV yet. Let me give you some background. The cable industry recently came to a new national agreement with PBS that outlines how the local PBS channels will be carried. The way this agreement shakes out, IPTV has the option of either 1) having us carry its primary analog signal, or 2) having us carry its signal in digital, as well as its HD signal and a limited amount of multiplex stations. The effective date of the choice is the digital transition date. IPTV chose the second option and we notified customers of the impending change. After the notifications went out, congress changed the date of the transition and IPTV opted not to make the transition at this time. Therefore, we have not made the changes and won’t until IPTV official hands back its analog spectrum.

I am in Benson/Dundee area and now am getting


KTIV channel 4 of Sioux City (and its CW sub-channel, though it dont come in well)



I from time to time get 21 and 27 aka IPTV stations from Sioux City and Des Moines

I wish I could get PBS from Kansas or Missouri or South Dakota (I already get 32/33 from Council Bluffs and I dont want IPTV from Sioux City/Des Moines




I also get also KPTH 44 and MNTV 44.2 from sioux city (it comes in well)

How in the world do you get Sioux City from Omaha.

Do you have an Antenna up on a tall pole? Please tell us some details about your setup. I would like to try to get Sioux City. "More HD is good HD"
Do any of the channels come in good all the time or is it just late at night?

I am in Benson/Dundee area and now am getting


KTIV channel 4 of Sioux City (and its CW sub-channel, though it dont come in well)



I from time to time get 21 and 27 aka IPTV stations from Sioux City and Des Moines

I wish I could get PBS from Kansas or Missouri or South Dakota (I already get 32/33 from Council Bluffs and I dont want IPTV from Sioux City/Des Moines




I also get also KPTH 44 and MNTV 44.2 from sioux city (it comes in well)

KOLN/KGIN is broadcasting the H.S. girls bb games in high def...i don't know if they are rebroadcasting NETV's or not...but they must have the stuff needed to broadcast in HD...although the picture for some reason isn't quite as clear

KOLN/KGIN is broadcasting the H.S. girls bb games in high def...i don't know if they are rebroadcasting NETV's or not...but they must have the stuff needed to broadcast in HD...although the picture for some reason isn't quite as clear

Looks like they're sharing the video feed and commentators but each station is providing their own graphics.

How in the world do you get Sioux City from Omaha.

Do you have an Antenna up on a tall pole? Please tell us some details about your setup. I would like to try to get Sioux City. "More HD is good HD"
Do any of the channels come in good all the time or is it just late at night?


i have my antenna inside


they come in at night (though KTIV aka NBC/CW of Sioux City's reception sucks

this is nothing new though for me to get Sioux city channels

I remember before it went digital


you could get KMEG of sioux city aka CBS 14 real good on broadcast

same with KOLN 10 of Lincoln


now, I cant get it at all with the digital box



I remember one time years ago, back in the mid 90's if I recall right (still live in same area as I did then)



I got at night stations from Des Moines (channel 8)

and Sioux Falls (channel 13) and Kansas City (channel 41)



(though it was like for a few hours from time to time briefly


but that hasnt happened since the mid 90's

Looks like they're sharing the video feed and commentators but each station is providing their own graphics.

I think the video is much clearer on NET

I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere (this thread is huge!). I'm considering ditching my satellite service and I bought an RCA ANT1450B omnidirectional antenna this morning. It seems to be working well with my HDTV, but I noticed that I am mostly getting stations from Omaha.

I live in Lincoln so I was pretty surprised that I'm missing all of the major networks. The antenna is UHF/VHF and I am getting one vhf station right now (KETV 7). It seems like I'm missing all of the VHF stations in Lincoln (at least according to AntennaWeb). Any ideas?

Stations I'm getting:
KCWL 51 (fuzzy)
KPTM 42.?
KXVO-DT 38.1
KETV 7
WOWT-DT 6.1
KMTV-DT 3.1

I'm also getting three PBS feeds from Omaha, TBN, AZA, etc.

I thought I would post my findings after changing my antenna yesterday. I live in Sidney Ia. and was having a hard time with the digital stations so I installed the Winegard 7698 to replace my old 60 element Radio shack. The old antenna just did not pull in stations like 6.1 and others. I went to tvfool.com and saw that at my distance to most stations I was from I would need a antenna for fringe reception as I am mostly in the blue/violet range. After putting the 7698 I saw about a 25 to 30% boost on my signal which now means most stations have a very positive signal now. This may change this summer when tree leaf-out occurs as I am not sure how a UHF signal likes going through the leaves of the trees. regards.

I have an antenna very similar to yours (the white version, also a RCA flat panel). Its VHF component is very weak.

In Lincoln, near 27th and O, reception on that antenna of 10.1 and 10.2 is poor and 12.1-3 and analog 8 don't come in at all. On the analog side, I can get 18 (Fox), 27 (3ABN), 29 (TBN), 35 (Fox), and 51 (CW) in Lincoln with the UHF antenna.

Even though it's marketed as VHF/UHF, that antenna is really only useful for UHF. Since all of Omaha's full-power stations are on UHF, it's a good antenna for getting the Omaha stations. You ought to also be able to get 8.1 and 8.2 with it, since they are currently on UHF 31.

Surprised you're getting Omaha's PBS (26) in Lincoln! Their signal doesn't get out very far most of the time.

If you want a useful indoor antenna in Lincoln you probably need rabbit ears. Rabbit ears are designed for VHF reception -- the other indoor antennas that are marketed as being designed for HDTV use are weak on VHF -- really only good for UHF. There are some lower-profile antennas, such as the Terk TV-5, which might be good enough -- but the flat panel antenna isn't going to do the trick. I wouldn't trust it for VHF any farther than about 15 miles, and all of Lincoln's full-power VHF stations are farther than 15 miles away.

I'd suggest taking the antenna back and getting something better. Try one of these -- or just pick up a rabbit ears/UHF loop combo antenna at a place like Best Buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Low-Profile-Indoor-Antenna-TV5/dp/B000069106

http://www.amazon.com/Winegard-SS-3000-Amplified-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B001DFZ5II/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1236487215&sr=1-5

...also might be worthwhile checking Schafers to see if they have a good indoor antenna for VHF reception.


I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere (this thread is huge!). I'm considering ditching my satellite service and I bought an RCA ANT1450B omnidirectional antenna this morning. It seems to be working well with my HDTV, but I noticed that I am mostly getting stations from Omaha.

I live in Lincoln so I was pretty surprised that I'm missing all of the major networks. The antenna is UHF/VHF and I am getting one vhf station right now (KETV 7). It seems like I'm missing all of the VHF stations in Lincoln (at least according to AntennaWeb). Any ideas?

Stations I'm getting:
KCWL 51 (fuzzy)
KPTM 42.?
KXVO-DT 38.1
KETV 7
WOWT-DT 6.1
KMTV-DT 3.1

I'm also getting three PBS feeds from Omaha, TBN, AZA, etc.

I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere (this thread is huge!). I'm considering ditching my satellite service and I bought an RCA ANT1450B omnidirectional antenna this morning. It seems to be working well with my HDTV, but I noticed that I am mostly getting stations from Omaha.

I live in Lincoln so I was pretty surprised that I'm missing all of the major networks. The antenna is UHF/VHF and I am getting one vhf station right now (KETV 7). It seems like I'm missing all of the VHF stations in Lincoln (at least according to AntennaWeb). Any ideas?

Stations I'm getting:
KCWL 51 (fuzzy)
KPTM 42.?
KXVO-DT 38.1
KETV 7
WOWT-DT 6.1
KMTV-DT 3.1

I'm also getting three PBS feeds from Omaha, TBN, AZA, etc.

where are you at?

that would determine why you may or may not be getting lincoln stations

How in the world do you get Sioux City from Omaha.

Do you have an Antenna up on a tall pole? Please tell us some details about your setup. I would like to try to get Sioux City. "More HD is good HD"
Do any of the channels come in good all the time or is it just late at night?



BTW, this is the antenna I have

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062081

I have an antenna very similar to yours (the white version, also a RCA flat panel). Its VHF component is very weak.

In Lincoln, near 27th and O, reception on that antenna of 10.1 and 10.2 is poor and 12.1-3 and analog 8 don't come in at all. On the analog side, I can get 18 (Fox), 27 (3ABN), 29 (TBN), 35 (Fox), and 51 (CW) in Lincoln with the UHF antenna.




I guess the Lincoln 3abn and TBN stations come in better than Omaha's

you can hardly get them at all here in Omaha.

Anyone else notice Cox hasn't figured out daylight savings time started this morning?
The time on my DVR is an hour behind. Fortunately the guide seems to be an hour behind also so at least my recordings should be OK.

Anyone else notice Cox hasn't figured out daylight savings time started this morning?
The time on my DVR is an hour behind. Fortunately the guide seems to be an hour behind also so at least my recordings should be OK.

what model do you have? Our dct 3416 has the correct time.

Just called Cox and the automated support suggested power cycling (unplugging) the box.

what model do you have? Our dct 3416 has the correct time.
I have the DCT 6416.

Just called Cox and the automated support suggested power cycling (unplugging) the box.
Power cycling didn't help.

The time was correct when I woke up this morning for work and that was at 6 am.

I have a DCT 6412 and it too is an hour behind. Tried unplugging the power and reconnecting but still is an hour behind.

I have a DCT 6412 and it too is an hour behind. Tried unplugging the power and reconnecting but still is an hour behind.

there is a post in the orange county cox forum that said it takes a call to cox to fix and they gave credit. I don't know if Omaha will give credit it's worth a call. customer service should be 24/7

Ok I have a couple of questions and I am not sure where to put them so I am asking locally first:
1. What is the difference between Coaxial Digital Audio Cable and Optical Digital Audio Cable??
2. We are in the process of remodeling out den and finally I get to have a TV room for me, have a 42' Hitachi going up there with all in one home theater set up. My question is, we recently got a new lap top and so I have my old Dell Tower available. I have seen a lot of pictures on here of guys that have a tower hooked up to the entertainment system, what can I do with that and/or what purpose does it serve? I do have wireless in my home

Most people with the tower hooked up to the big screen probably are able to use them as dvr's to record and watch shows over the air via media center. First question you need to answer is does that old Dell have media center on it.

Holy smokes I am not sure it was one of the basic mocels in 2002....!!!

Holy smokes I am not sure it was one of the basic mocels in 2002....!!!

Then no. Media Center didn't come out until 2004/2005, and even now its a fairly expensive proposition to get a Media Center PC.

Ok cool!!! So no need to even worry about it then!!

Then no. Media Center didn't come out until 2004/2005, and even now its a fairly expensive proposition to get a Media Center PC.

Looks like u work at BB would that be correct?? If so I will PM u a question I have

Power cycling didn't help.
My DVR's time finally got back in synch today.

It looks like no new channels until June for cox.

It looks like no new channels until June for cox.

Did you hear this from a CSR? The last couple times I've been in a Cox store they've been non-committal.

Did you hear this from a CSR? The last couple times I've been in a Cox store they've been non-committal.

no just guessing since there hasn't been anything in the newspaper.

Did you hear this from a CSR? The last couple times I've been in a Cox store they've been non-committal.

He either is a CSR or has access to the information that CSRs have access to. He has quoted many corporate e-mails as they have come out, and otherwise gives out information only employees have access to.

To think that because nothing has been in the paper lately means nothing until June is crap. Obviously, a statement like that would be motivated by internal communication.

There is a fine line between giving some information on a public board (throwing the community-at-large a bone), and going too far. Giving out internal employees names on a public board is going too far. Directly quoting internal information (without even paraphrasing?) is too far.

I guess everyone should be glad that companies have people monitoring this kind of stuff. Cox isn't really in a position to retain problem employees at the moment. It's not rocket science figuring this kind of stuff out. It puts front line reps in a really bad position when people from here call up quoting the board about things that are not public knowledge yet.

He either is a CSR or has access to the information that CSRs have access to. He has quoted many corporate e-mails as they have come out, and otherwise gives out information only employees have access to.

To think that because nothing has been in the paper lately means nothing until June is crap. Obviously, a statement like that would be motivated by internal communication.

There is a fine line between giving some information on a public board (throwing the community-at-large a bone), and going too far. Giving out internal employees names on a public board is going too far. Directly quoting internal information (without even paraphrasing?) is too far.

I guess everyone should be glad that companies have people monitoring this kind of stuff. Cox isn't really in a position to retain problem employees at the moment. It's not rocket science figuring this kind of stuff out. It puts front line reps in a really bad position when people from here call up quoting the board about things that are not public knowledge yet.

I do not work for cox just a customer waiting for new channels and new services. It does sound like you work for them though. Where have I said stuff that wasn't public?


Do you really think if I worked for them I would ask if any one heard any new info on more channels? Also they have news releases that are public where I get my info.

Trust me ajwees41 does not work for Cox and he can be trusted. He is well respected and has been here helping people on this forum for years.

Now this new guy with only one post that came out of no where, I wonder about his credibility. Very strange post. Very strange . . .

I will ask MOD a friend of mine check the postings IP addresses to see if any have been from Cox internal offices.

Anytime a new person joins on the same day AND posts something strange that same day you have to wonder . . .

Minor Omaha Issue:

When does the new KETV tower get painted red and white ?? The dark gray is stylish and trendy, but clashes with the other Crown Point installations.

;)

Music choice lineup change in the World Herald.
http://www.musicchoice.com/channelchange/#descriptions

They wont be,
the Government changed the requirements for all new antennas. Since there tower fell it must now be this color with white flashing lights on at sunset.


Minor Omaha Issue:

When does the new KETV tower get painted red and white ?? The dark gray is stylish and trendy, but clashes with the other Crown Point installations.

;)

Well, I have about reached the point of giving up on 10/11. I have two D* boxes (both hr20-700). After re-scanning after 2/17, both got 10-1 but neither got 10-2 with signal strength fluctuating between 65%-80%. I bypassed the D* box and could pick up 10-2 on one tv (didn't check the other). D* csr said OTA was out of their control and 10-11 said they were not aware of any problems. Research showed D* boxes were not picking up 10-2, so waited until it worked for all. Sometime later I noticed signal strengths had gone up to 85%-90%, so re-set channels, but still no 10-2. No problem since it still seemed to be all D* boxes.

Checking this morning, I was pleased to find out box B got both 10-1 and 10-2 with signal strengths of 65%-80%. Unfortunately, box A not only does not get 10-2, but now does not receive 10-1 and shows signal strengths of 0%. Nothing else had been changed and KLKN (and subs) and KHNE (and subs) all come in over the same antenna and cabling at a signal strength of 95%-100%.

I re-set antenna setup, did a hard boot of the D* box and then another antenna re-set, and refreshed service on D*'s website all to no avail.

So the questions are what are others now experiencing with 10-1 and 10-2 and any suggestions on anything else I can do? All help/suggestions greatly appreciated.
i also have the hr20-700, did the rescan of 10 hoping it would come in better on the vhf band, as did 12 but can only get it at 50 degrees or higher, crappy tuner for off axis stations as my sony tv(46E200) has no problem picking up 8 or 10 uhf or vhf digital. just like to add i had the h20-600 (directv nondvr) and it picked up 8 and 10 better than my sony, i really do beleive tuner brand makes a difference.

In some cases I have found the hr20-700 to be too good which means you may need to lower the signal strength to make it work correctly.

Try an antenna antueator or put a splitter on the antenna feed to cut it in half. Worth a try.
I ended up having to put a 3 way splitter to make mine just right.

I know this thread is all about Local service, but I figured it was a great thread to ask a local question.

I have a Hearthstone Home, the den is below grade (ground) and so when I sent to mount a plasma mount on the wall this weekend I realized there is no studding behind the wall I am mounting the plasma on. It goes 3/4 in Sheet rock, 1 1/2 in insulation then block.....the screws and anchors that came with the mount worked ok, but I did not truct them so I sued about 5 TapCon concrete screws as well......think it will hold???

Anyone noticing dropouts while watching OnDemand programs (Cox Omaha) today? Every few minutes the signal drops out for 20 seconds or so, but the program continues playing despite no audio or video coming through. My box is a Motorola DCH3200. Connection is HDMI.

Anyone noticing dropouts while watching OnDemand programs (Cox Omaha) today? Every few minutes the signal drops out for 20 seconds or so, but the program continues playing despite no audio or video coming through. My box is a Motorola DCH3200. Connection is HDMI.

I justt watched a free video and evan almighty on a DCT 3416 via HDMI no problems. Did you try rebooting the box?

Anyone noticing dropouts while watching OnDemand programs (Cox Omaha) today? Every few minutes the signal drops out for 20 seconds or so, but the program continues playing despite no audio or video coming through. My box is a Motorola DCH3200. Connection is HDMI.

I haven't noticed any signal drop out, but I did notice that when I watch an OnDemand movie the clock on my Cox Motorola HD DVR reverts back an hour. As soon as the movie is done and it returns to normal programming the clock reverts to the correct time as well.

The only other thing I've noticed in the past two days is that sometimes when I switch channels and the info guide comes up along the bottom of the screen to tell you which channel you're on it will flash a green bar (the exact same size as the info guide bar) right as the info guide bar is disappearing. Doesn't happen all the time, and doesn't happen on every channel either. It's like it is an artifact of the info guide bar. Doesn't happen on the analog digital when I'm running it directly from the Coax into the TV, only from the HD DVR box into the TV via HDMI.

I haven't noticed any signal drop out, but I did notice that when I watch an OnDemand movie the clock on my Cox Motorola HD DVR reverts back an hour. As soon as the movie is done and it returns to normal programming the clock reverts to the correct time as well.

The only other thing I've noticed in the past two days is that sometimes when I switch channels and the info guide comes up along the bottom of the screen to tell you which channel you're on it will flash a green bar (the exact same size as the info guide bar) right as the info guide bar is disappearing. Doesn't happen all the time, and doesn't happen on every channel either. It's like it is an artifact of the info guide bar. Doesn't happen on the analog digital when I'm running it directly from the Coax into the TV, only from the HD DVR box into the TV via HDMI.

you need to reboot the box to correct the time issue.

I know this thread is all about Local service, but I figured it was a great thread to ask a local question.

I have a Hearthstone Home, the den is below grade (ground) and so when I sent to mount a plasma mount on the wall this weekend I realized there is no studding behind the wall I am mounting the plasma on. It goes 3/4 in Sheet rock, 1 1/2 in insulation then block.....the screws and anchors that came with the mount worked ok, but I did not truct them so I sued about 5 TapCon concrete screws as well......think it will hold???

So the DW is just glued to insulation?

I justt watched a free video and evan almighty on a DCT 3416 via HDMI no problems. Did you try rebooting the box?

Yes... no change. It's actually cut out a couple times during the Nebraska-New Mexico game on ESPNU as well. Wondering if the box is malfunctioning or if some copy-protection thing is triggered by the HDMI -- no problems if I connect via component.