I don't live in Durham either, go to antennaweb.org, type in your address and zip, drill down to digital channels. It will give you distance and direction for your local channels. In most cases channels can be picked up within 30 miles with a channel master 4228 antenna

Well, I stated in my last first post that I did that and I saw where my add is 32 miles from the antenna farm. I was just wondering if anyone over in Durham has any success using an indoor antenna being that far away.

I live 90 miles to the west and pick up all of the major stations in the Raleigh Market.

Thanks. That's good to know.

At 90 miles Foxeng is NOT using an indoor antenna :)

Your success will depend on how much "stuff" is between you and the towers. THe indoor may work, but then again, it may not.

At 90 miles Foxeng is NOT using an indoor antenna :)


Yeah, I figured that much. ;)

At 90 miles Foxeng is NOT using an indoor antenna :)

Your success will depend on how much "stuff" is between you and the towers. THe indoor may work, but then again, it may not.

I live about 80 miles East of Raleigh and receive the RDU stations using an INDOOR antenna. :p Just goes to show that you never know! *LOL*

I live about 80 miles East of Raleigh and receive the RDU stations using an INDOOR antenna. :p Just goes to show that you never know! *LOL*
Hmm, indoor as in rabbit ears on the tv or larger in the attic. Amplified or not. Big difference at 80 miles. :)

I'm ~70 miles south and get them with an amped rooftop uhf/vhf but not with amped rabbit ears on the tv.

Hmm, indoor as in rabbit ears on the tv or larger in the attic. Amplified or not. Big difference at 80 miles. :)

I'm ~70 miles south and get them with an amped rooftop uhf/vhf but not with amped rabbit ears on the tv.

Indoor amped rabbit ears on the top of the tv. :cool:

I live about 80 miles East of Raleigh and receive the RDU stations using an INDOOR antenna. :p Just goes to show that you never know! *LOL*

Considering the tower is a good 25 miles or so east of Raleigh, that really means you are only 55-60 miles away from the 2,000 foot towers - and if you've driven 55-60 miles east on 70 you know there's not much between you and them.

Considering the tower is a good 25 miles or so east of Raleigh, that really means you are only 55-60 miles away from the 2,000 foot towers - and if you've driven 55-60 miles east on 70 you know there's not much between you and them.

I didn't realize the antenna farm, in Apex is it, was 25 miles east of Raleigh. It's always seemed like you get off of the beltline and, boom, there you are. But you're right, that cuts off some distance and there definitely isn't much between here and there. :D

The "antenna farm" is just east of Garner along I-40, Auburn I believe. WUNC is out at Chapel Hill.

Is the WB antenna located in Auburn?

The Digital one is. The analog is more to the south / southwest of Raleigh (AFAIK).

The "antenna farm" is just east of Garner along I-40, Auburn I believe. WUNC is out at Chapel Hill.

If you have Google Earth... this will take you right to them...

Considering the tower is a good 25 miles or so east of Raleigh, that really means you are only 55-60 miles away from the 2,000 foot towers - and if you've driven 55-60 miles east on 70 you know there's not much between you and them.

Actually the Garner towers are less than 10 miles southeast of downtown (state capitol building) Raleigh. Twenty-five kilometers maybe. Check your map. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Indoor amped rabbit ears on the top of the tv. :cool:
Ahh, wish I could. Daggone wind keeps knocking my antenna out of alignment. Have to resync the rotor/rotor control weekly. :(

Well, I stated in my last first post that I did that and I saw where my add is 32 miles from the antenna farm. I was just wondering if anyone over in Durham has any success using an indoor antenna being that far away.
I'm in Durham, about 36 miles from the farm. I can receive them with an indoor antenna.
Is the WB antenna located in Auburn?
WLFL is no longer called the WB. It is now called the CW.

Can anyone tell me why is WRAL 5.1 and 50.1 are far superior to other all the local OTA HD channels in this area.

11.1, 17.1, 22.1 and 28.1 are not too good.

Samsung service is garbage, I have a 2300$ TV purchased 18 month ago , and I am ready to give it to goodwill.
I have not been able to find a repair man around Phoenix area, and when I finaly did, he asked for $ 900 to repair it. and that was not sure that would be it, this was only a minimum estimate.

So As far as I am concerned, Samsung is JUNK

I'm in Durham, about 36 miles from the farm. I can receive them with an indoor antenna.

WLFL is no longer called the WB. It is now called the CW.

Thanks. Are you using an amp?

Can anyone tell me why is WRAL 5.1 and 50.1 are far superior to other all the local OTA HD channels in this area.

11.1, 17.1, 22.1 and 28.1 are not too good.

Because Capital Broadcasting (station owners) cares about putting out a quality product. They were also the VERY first US station to do commercial broadcasting in HDTV, and they have made a LARGE investment (I've heard in the tens of millions) in their facilities to properly support said HDTV / ATSC broadcasting.

Does that about cover it ?

Samsung service is garbage, I have a 2300$ TV purchased 18 month ago , and I am ready to give it to goodwill.
I have not been able to find a repair man around Phoenix area, and when I finaly did, he asked for $ 900 to repair it. and that was not sure that would be it, this was only a minimum estimate.

So As far as I am concerned, Samsung is JUNK

Looks like you dialed the wrong number, this is the "Raleigh, NC Local HDTV Info and Reception" thread. You may want to rant in a more appropriate location.

Bob

Thanks. Are you using an amp?
No. I tried using an amp once, but I don't think it made any difference.

I live about 80 miles East of Raleigh and receive the RDU stations using an INDOOR antenna. :p Just goes to show that you never know! *LOL*

What kind of antenna are you using? I used a Terk indoor amplified antenna and could not get any Raleigh HD channels in Halifax County near Roanoke Rapids.

Actually the Garner towers are less than 10 miles southeast of downtown (state capitol building) Raleigh. Twenty-five kilometers maybe. Check your map. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You could be right. I was thinking about the drive which is easily that far - I didn't realize it snaked around so badly to get 10 miles as I challenge anyone to get there in less than 30 minutes from downtown.

Because Capital Broadcasting (station owners) cares about putting out a quality product. They were also the VERY first US station to do commercial broadcasting in HDTV, and they have made a LARGE investment (I've heard in the tens of millions) in their facilities to properly support said HDTV / ATSC broadcasting.

Does that about cover it ?

Thanks for the info ... not sure why others stations don't 'care' ...

Really weird.

Now my Panasonic Plasma finds WRAL HD on 5.2 like it's suppose to (instead of 85.2) but my Mits DLP (62525) still has it somewhere that I apparently can't even find it on. OTA antenna finds and maps it perfectly but the cable side's still screwey on the Mits.

Anybody have a clue where WRAL HD might be on the Mits tuner?

Never got a reply to this several pages ago. Anybody got any ideas?

Thanks.

[B]

Thanks for the info ... not sure why others stations don't 'care' ...

I wouldn't say that they don't care, It may just not be as high a priority. NBC17eng is the local NBC chief Engineer, I'd say they do care about the product they are putting out.

What kind of antenna are you using? I used a Terk indoor amplified antenna and could not get any Raleigh HD channels in Halifax County near Roanoke Rapids.


Terk <anything> is usually junk. Try using a "real" Channelmaster (you would probably want the 4228) , and then maybe add a preamp if necessary.

You could be right. I was thinking about the drive which is easily that far - I didn't realize it snaked around so badly to get 10 miles as I challenge anyone to get there in less than 30 minutes from downtown.

I accept that challenge.

You could be right. I was thinking about the drive which is easily that far - I didn't realize it snaked around so badly to get 10 miles as I challenge anyone to get there in less than 30 minutes from downtown.

Where from in particular ?

BUt I'm pretty sure it CAN be done in less than 30 minutes if it is not in rush hour traffic.

So I take none of the posters in this thread live in Durham and therefore can't answer my post above concerning receiving HD locals with an antenna.
I live in Durham and I have the Silver Sensor in my attic. I have Directv using the HR10-250 and get locals in HD OTA. The quality is just ok. NBC isn't good, ABC is ok, CBS is the best one. I also get FOX and CW in HD, they are ok but not watchable if it's even cloudy. I get the NBCE and ABCE national feeds from Directv.

I'm just recently being forced to upgrade to an HR20. I'm trying to find out if I can still get those channels OTA, because D* told me that I would only get NBC, ABC and CW22 in HD in mpeg4.

I'm just recently being forced to upgrade to an HR20. I'm trying to find out if I can still get those channels OTA, because D* told me that I would only get NBC, ABC and CW22 in HD in mpeg4.

OTA on the HR20 was enabled via update a week or two ago, so you should still be able to receive them. More info: DBSTalk HR20 forum (http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=112).

I live in NW Raleigh (near I-540 and Leesville).

Can anyone give me some recommendations of any outdoor antenna that you are using if you are happy with the picture quality? I'm getting the HR20-700 installed by DirecTV next week and need to get an OTA for them to install as well.

Also, has anyone used their OTA with an HR20-700 (as I understand it was recently updated to enable the OTA).

I live in NW Raleigh (near I-540 and Leesville).

Can anyone give me some recommendations of any outdoor antenna that you are using if you are happy with the picture quality? I'm getting the HR20-700 installed by DirecTV next week and need to get an OTA for them to install as well.

Also, has anyone used their OTA with an HR20-700 (as I understand it was recently updated to enable the OTA).

My HR20 does very well with OTA. I'm in Wilson and I get all of the Triangle stations plus 7,9,12 and 25 digitals out of the Greenville area using a discontinued U-120XR Radio Shack UHF antenna in my attic. I got lucky and found a sweet spot where I can get all those channels without having to turn it.:)

I live in NW Raleigh (near I-540 and Leesville).

Can anyone give me some recommendations of any outdoor antenna that you are using if you are happy with the picture quality? I'm getting the HR20-700 installed by DirecTV next week and need to get an OTA for them to install as well.

Also, has anyone used their OTA with an HR20-700 (as I understand it was recently updated to enable the OTA).

I agree with the above reply. I have a StealthTenna in Wilson and it's locked in on everything from Greenville and Raleigh. It's been on a rotor for years but I don't remember the last time I had to move it (though I move it around occasionally so it doesn't freeze up).

Any good UHF or VHF/UHF antenna will work for you in N Raleigh. Don't fall for the "HDTV Antenna" hype. An antenna is an antenna if it works which brings me to my next point. If you can't get OTA HDTV in N Raleigh with a good set of rabbit ears, you have OTHER probelms. ;)

Just to be clear, it's a digital signal, folks. It either "is" or it "ain't".

I've loved watching these discussions over the years saying "My picture's better with X antenna on CBS than with a Y antenna on CBS." I just have to laugh when I read that stuff. It's total and utter BS and part of the reason there's so much confusion and misinformation out there regarding HDTV and especially OTA HDTV.

All UHF antennas are subject to multipathing and some are better at handling it than others (combined with a good anti-multipathing tuner). It's just part of the nature of the UHF wavelength. I have minor problems (that drove me crazy for years until I figured it out) in Wilson in the fall when the colors of the leaves change and in the spring when the leaves are first starting to come back. It's just the nature of the technology.

Run away from anyone that tells you that you'll have a "better" HDTV picture with Antenna A v. Antenna B (assuming you have a stable and adequate signal with the antenna you already have). This person has just told you how little they actually understand the technology. Assuming you have a solid signal, if you think you have a better picture quality with one antenna v. another, you're imagining things. That's the bottom line. ;)

Sorry if I've bursted anybody's bubble here but this seems to need clarification every few months as newbies wander into the fold. :)

We watch OTA in Apex and get all Raleigh area digital stations and I have enjoyed monitoring this forum for some time.

Our favorite channel since we stumbled onto it has 28.2 "The Tube". This has for me been the 2nd best reason for OTA besides the HD signals themselves. I have heard that the Tube had an affiliation agreement with Sinclair to carry the station but that Sinclair is cancelling the agreement as of the end of year.

If this is true, it will be a shame. If so, I hope that one of the other Raleigh stations pick this up with their extra bandwidth.

Enjoy your forum!

Looks like it may be true. I'm getting WRDC 28.1 fine but 28.1 is blank and says "No Signal" as of today.

I was just going to mention that TheTube is blank on 28.2--It still is on in Wilmington at WSFX
26-2

Question - I've got a Channel Plus video distribution system that has 2 channel UHF modulator. I also have this hooked into my OTA antenna(s). I use the modulators for my DBS receivers.

OK, Now the kicker. About this time of year, I seem to get problems with interference from OTA channels. Short of disconnecting the antenna, what are the "best" 2 channels I can use and minimize interference ? Most of the year, I get along pretty nice using 44 and 56, but 44 has gone to he** right now.

Location - I'm about 1-1.5 miles east of Youngsville along Tarboro Road in the woods on the left. 47 comes BOOMING in, even with the antenna aimed for the Garner antenna farm. I'm using a dedicated VHF antenna and a dedicated CM4321 4 bay antenna with a CM7775 UHF preamp, combined in the attic before they go into the ChannelPlus. I get outstanding analog reception on all locals except 40, and I have to rotate to aim the antennas at 4 and 36 (but they come in nice after the rotation - viewable in "normal"). Greenville stations don't come in very well, yet it seems they are strong enough to interfere, as the same on the Greensboro stations.

Edit 1/3 - last night as I was driving north on Capital, I saw a billboard that said Telemundo was on 44 - that explains why that has a problem now..

Not sure where to post this question so I will start here.

Here is the deal...

I recently installed a DirecTV HD reciever at my farm in SC. I live in Raleigh and recieve local HD channels via TWC. In Green Sea, SC the local HD channels are not on DirecTV and thus I recieve them OTA. (the ones I can get) Here comes the cool part....

The reciever for DTV scans the OTA channels and then incorporates them into the on screen user interface. This gives us the pure HD OTA AND convience of having it integrated into the UI.

WHY CANT TWC do this???? It really is a great feature.

yes The Tube is indeed gone, too bad.

Anyone in Raleigh able to pick up 26.2 Wilmington? We have a nice southern exposure, but that distance seems way to far without some serious antenna.

Maybe theres an outside shot of the other Raleigh stations could pick up the Tube, though I am not sure we could successfully function without 3 fulltime weather channels :)

Smallville in HD on WLFL-DT?

I live in Durham and I' am thinking about getting a MYHD video card to watch/record Smallville from WLFL-DT (OTA channel 22.1), but according to TitanTV, Smallville broadcast in SD on WLFL-DT (channel 22.1). I thought Smallville was broadcast in HD on WLFL-DT back when it was a WB affiliate. Has something changed?

Can someone that receives WLFL-DT confirm that Smallville is (or is not) still broadcasting in HD on Channel 22.1?

Thanks in advanced

MHD replaces INHD2 on TWC Triangle Region. It's up and running.

e-mail message from TWC:

MHD To Replace INHD2 On Ch. 292

We are excited to announce that MHD will replace INHD2 on Channel 292 in the HD Suite package effective immediately. As you may have noticed, INHD2 went off the air on January 1st.

MHD is a music-centric high definition channel featuring music programming from MTV, VH1 and CMT. MHD includes the best series from those networks such as VH1 Storytellers, MTV Unplugged, CMT Crossroads, MTV VMAs, plus original programming such as the weekly Countdown Show, MHD Roadie Trip and Uncompressed.


For more information on MHD, visit mhd.tv.

Oh yea Cold Play in HD is on right now on Channel 292 Raleigh TWC. (CLOCKS ROCKS!)

Smallville in HD on WLFL-DT?

Can someone that receives WLFL-DT confirm that Smallville is (or is not) still broadcasting in HD on Channel 22.1?

Thanks in advanced


Yes, Smallville is in HD on 22.1. I live in Durham as well and receive it OTA via the Silver Sensor in my attic. Quality is good, but if it's cloudy or rainy, then it starts getting so bad I have to watch it in SD.

Maybe theres an outside shot of the other Raleigh stations could pick up the Tube, though I am not sure we could successfully function without 3 fulltime weather channels :)

Yea, if you want to know about the weather, there are plenty of choices :rolleyes: (What an absolute waste of bandwidth!!)

Yes, Smallville is in HD on 22.1. I live in Durham as well and receive it OTA via the Silver Sensor in my attic. Quality is good, but if it's cloudy or rainy, then it starts getting so bad I have to watch it in SD.

So the Silver Sensor Antenna worked for you? According to antennaweb.org, what color is WLFL-DT in your area. I was planning on getting a large antenna from Radio Shack to put in my attic because WLFL-DT is violet from my house.

violet - uhf
WLFL-DT 22.1 CW RALEIGH NC 132° 25.2 57

"If you can't get OTA HDTV in N Raleigh with a good set of rabbit ears, you have OTHER probelms. "

Wilson Flyer,

Do you truly mean Rabbit Ears? As far as I know Rabbit Ears refer to the two VHF exandable antennas that are in an adjustable "V" shape and attached to Table top antennas.

Bow ties - are for UHF and appear on table top and some roof top antennas.

I am just clarifying this as I keep seeing table top antennas referred to as rabbit ears when in fact they could be both UHF or VHF depending on the hardware.

BTW- My Powered Square Shooter did not come close to picking up the stations that my CM 4228 is capable of picking up.

-DonB2

"No Tube"

That is too bad about losing 28.2 "The Tube" but I am sure it will be a nice home for yet another Weather Channel.

I think the tv station creedo is "Don't give the customer what they want, give them what you want to give them."

I did enjoy listening to Christmas music with nice winter scenes via one of the PAX subchannels before Christmas. I think it was 47.5. I only recently am able to receive PAX at all so it was a nice Christmas present.

-DonB2

"If you can't get OTA HDTV in N Raleigh with a good set of rabbit ears, you have OTHER probelms. "

Wilson Flyer,

Do you truly mean Rabbit Ears? As far as I know Rabbit Ears refer to the two VHF exandable antennas that are in an adjustable "V" shape and attached to Table top antennas.

Bow ties - are for UHF and appear on table top and some roof top antennas.

I am just clarifying this as I keep seeing table top antennas referred to as rabbit ears when in fact they could be both UHF or VHF depending on the hardware.

BTW- My Powered Square Shooter did not come close to picking up the stations that my CM 4228 is capable of picking up.

-DonB2

I used the term "rabbit ears" generically, as is commonly done now (albeit not technically correct). Of course one needs a UHF tabletop "device" antenna to get UHF HDTV. LOL

I have a buddy that has a tabletop from Rat Shack (some sort of round, flying-saucer type of antenna) that picks up all the Raleigh locals (and Greenville) in Wilson with no problems. The antenna cost him $50. I went with him to Rat shack to get it and hook it up the night he bought his plasma. He lives in a low-lying area surrounded by trees. It's almost "woods-like".

I've personally tested (extensively) the use of a Silver Sensor (original beta version) and it works perfectly for me in Wilson too (aimed properly).

I stand by my contention that MOST (obstacles and terrain play a major role in this), if not all, users in Raleigh proper should be able to get HDTV via a good table-top UHF antenna. I can't imagine why it wouldn't work in Raleigh (~20 miles from the farms) when it works perfectly in Wilson (~50 miles from the farms).

I have a rooftop StealthTenna. I don't use a tabletop model personally. I was just making a general point that any quaility UHF antenna on the rooftop will yield great HDTV in this region given that it is properly setup and aligned. It ain't rocket science.

I just bought a new TV (Pioneer PDP-4270HD) and, even though I use TWC, I tried picking up OTA stuff with "rabbit ears" just to see if I could. I can't pick up any HD channels, so I don't agree that if you live in Raleigh, you can. (I live in NE Raleigh near Triangle Town Center)

Did UNC move their antenna to Garner? I've got an old Yagi pointed at the Garner farm and couldn't "see" Ch 4 at all until suddenly today I'm getting all their multiplex feeds! Their old location is off the side of my antenna so either I'm witnessing a Christmas miracle or something's changed.



Something has changed I can now pick up UNC-HD but never could before , furthermore ...I picked up UNC-HD after losing the TUBE, I thought I had to re-tune me telly to get The TUBE back however...in doing so I pick up UNC-HD now !! ...

Can one of you techies please explain why UNC-HD which is at 321 degrees from where I live in Holly Springs NC can now be picked up with my Antenna pointing at 82-83 degrees

I just bought a new TV (Pioneer PDP-4270HD) and, even though I use TWC, I tried picking up OTA stuff with "rabbit ears" just to see if I could. I can't pick up any HD channels, so I don't agree that if you live in Raleigh, you can. (I live in NE Raleigh near Triangle Town Center)

I don't doubt you but were you using a high quality UHF capable antenna? It blows my mind that anyone in Raleigh wouldn't be able to pickup OTA with a good tabletop antenna. Makes no sense to me.

Again, I don't doubt you but there's something going on here that we don't know. Too many variables involved. Something wasn't right and whatever it was should be easily correctable.

I don't doubt you but were you using a high quality UHF capable antenna? It blows my mind that anyone in Raleigh wouldn't be able to pickup OTA with a good tabletop antenna. Makes no sense to me.

Again, I don't doubt you but there's something going on here that we don't know. Too many variables involved. Something wasn't right and whatever it was should be easily correctable.

I was using a Terk indoor antenna that I bought at BB. On the box it says "Amplified HDTV Indoor Antenna". I connected it with the coax supplied with the antenna. It's quite possible that I'm doing something wrong though. I used the TV auto-setup and it found only 3 analog channels.

Something has changed I can now pick up UNC-HD but never could before , furthermore ...I picked up UNC-HD after losing the TUBE, I thought I had to re-tune me telly to get The TUBE back however...in doing so I pick up UNC-HD now !! ...

Can one of you techies please explain why UNC-HD which is at 321 degrees from where I live in Holly Springs NC can now be picked up with my Antenna pointing at 82-83 degrees

I've always been able to pickup UNCHD from Holly Springs with rabbit ears.

So the Silver Sensor Antenna worked for you? According to antennaweb, what color is WLFL-DT in your area. I was planning on getting a large antenna from Radio Shack to put in my attic because WLFL-DT is violet from my house

Yes, the Silver Sensor works for me, although I did try about 5 others first, and just kept returning them until I found the one that worked (I got the SS from Sears). If your looking at a more expensive antenna than the SS, I'd try the SS first to see how it works for you.

Oh, WLFL-DT is in red according to antennaweb.

One other thing I should mention. I am getting the new 5 LNB dish installed in a few weeks, and D* told me that I would get 22 in HD, that I would just need the antenna for 5.1 and 50.1, that ABC, NBC and CW22 would be in HD. For some reason though, I thought they said that those 3 HD stations I would be getting in HD from Greensboro. I'll have to wait and see when they install it.

I don't doubt you but were you using a high quality UHF capable antenna? It blows my mind that anyone in Raleigh wouldn't be able to pickup OTA with a good tabletop antenna. Makes no sense to me.

Again, I don't doubt you but there's something going on here that we don't know. Too many variables involved. Something wasn't right and whatever it was should be easily correctable.


I live up in Youngsville - - about 22 miles from the Garner/Auburn antenna farm - and reception without an outside antenna is imposible in my house. Between the woods and the fact that the sheathing beneath my cedar siding is aluminum foil covered - OTA (and Cell phone) reception is spotty AT BEST. With a decent OTA outside antenna system - (preamped on the UHF) things work pretty well for the analog - don't have an ATSC tuner yet so I can't comment on that yet.

As far as antennaweb - ALL stations (except WUNC) are RED, WUNC (both analog and digital) are purple, but the Roanoke Rapids station is RED.

Here in Apex, I can get most with a silver sensor but I do experience some dropout. With my attic antenna though... rock solid.

Ive got a silver sensor setting on the shelf if anybody wants to try one.

I have my antennas in the Attic, one for Garner which is a amplified 4228 and the Powered Square Shooter for UNC.

I have never had successful results receiving watchable digital ATSC with Silver Sensor or my RCA Powered Table top antenna in the same room as the tv.

I did have marginal success with the Silver Sensor and a booster in the attic.

Maybe my house has aluminum shielding underneath also I don't know for sure. I am in Holly Springs in sort of a bowl below the normal flat terrain and I have plenty of tall pine trees and swamp oaks, and Sweet Gum trees around me.

I would not mind putting the antenna on the roof and I can't argure that most any quality antenna on the roof would easily outshine the best antenna in my attic.

But neighbors and better half kinda preclude my putting the antenna on the roof.


-DonB2

Here in Apex, I can get most with a silver sensor but I do experience some dropout. With my attic antenna though... rock solid.

Ive got a silver sensor setting on the shelf if anybody wants to try one.

Which attic antenna do you have?

Which attic antenna do you have?

Its a Channel Master 3022.

http://www.solidsignal.tv/prod_display.asp?PROD=ANCM3022

It was a freebie from WRAL.

Its a Channel Master 3022.

It was a freebie from WRAL.


That looks cool. Is it amplified? Easy to install? I'm assuming it's a coax cable that runs from it to the receiver, just like a Silver Sensor?

Thanks.

That looks cool. Is it amplified? Easy to install? I'm assuming it's a coax cable that runs from it to the receiver, just like a Silver Sensor?

Thanks.

Easy to install. I used a piece of 1" rigid conduit to attach it to. Not amplified but channel master has an amp you can get separately if you need one. Antenna comes with a balan to attach the antenna to coax.

Its a Channel Master 3022.

http://www.solidsignal.tv/prod_display.asp?PROD=ANCM3022

It was a freebie from WRAL.


Can I still get this antenna free from WRAL? If so, what do I need to do to get it?

Can I still get this antenna free from WRAL? If so, what do I need to do to get it?

See attached information from WRAL Engineering.

See attached information from WRAL Engineering.

Thanks.

Hi All,
Noobie question. I posted the following & got a somewhat criptic responce & the search led me here. Currently I have the 8300 hooked into the TV with an HDMI cable. Can anyone let me know what the issue is?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
I have a Samsung HL-S6187W with cable input from a SA-8300HD/HDMI box.

My cable company TW Raleigh only sends out in 1080i. My 674 will arrive today according to the UPS tracking number & I was wondering if it will convert the 1080i from the cable company to 1080p using HDMI.

Am new to this so I expect I will be asking a few more questions down the line

"""No. The 674 does not upconvert anything EXCEPT upscaling 480i signals to 480p (from the svideo, composite, or component.)

Also, check your 8300HD's firmware...if it's 1.87.xx.xx, then you're not going to be able to hook it up via hdmi into the 674. Do a search for 8300HD handshake and you'll find out why. """"

Hi All,
My cable company TW Raleigh only sends out in 1080i. My 674 will arrive today according to the UPS tracking number & I was wondering if it will convert the 1080i from the cable company to 1080p using HDMI.



TW doesnt only 'send out' 1080i. However, the 8300 DVR 'out of the box' converts all received formats to 1080i. You can change that behavior by going into the 'settings' 'more settings' and selecting 'formats' (I dont remember actual setting name) and enable all output modes (480i, 480p, 720p,1080i) and then the 8300 will pass what it receives unaltered and let your display do all the deinterlacing and scaling.

enable all output modes (480i, 480p, 720p,1080i) and then the 8300 will pass what it receives unaltered and let your display do all the deinterlacing and scaling.

I am already doing that on the current cable box to TV HDMI hook up. The question was will the 674 convert the 1080i signal which is the only version of 1080 that comes out of the cable box to 1080p?

Second part of the question was why am I not going to be able to hook it up via hdmi into the 674 then to the TV & if I cant what connections must be used?

I am already doing that on the current cable box to TV HDMI hook up. The question was will the 674 convert the 1080i signal which is the only version of 1080 that comes out of the cable box to 1080p?

Second part of the question was why am I not going to be able to hook it up via hdmi into the 674 then to the TV & if I cant what connections must be used?

I hooked up the HDMI connection from my cable box and it worked fine, although I didn't see any improvement over component hookup. HDMI created other issues with my particular setup, so I decided to go back to component.

I hooked up the HDMI connection from my cable box and it worked fine, although I didn't see any improvement over component hookup. HDMI created other issues with my particular setup, so I decided to go back to component.


Thanks for the input :)

I was using a Terk indoor antenna that I bought at BB. On the box it says "Amplified HDTV Indoor Antenna". I connected it with the coax supplied with the antenna. It's quite possible that I'm doing something wrong though. I used the TV auto-setup and it found only 3 analog channels.

I'm correcting this statement. I didn't have the antenna element snapped in completely. After fixing that, I am able to get pretty good OTA HD reception with my indoor antenna.

I am already doing that on the current cable box to TV HDMI hook up. The question was will the 674 convert the 1080i signal which is the only version of 1080 that comes out of the cable box to 1080p?

Second part of the question was why am I not going to be able to hook it up via hdmi into the 674 then to the TV & if I cant what connections must be used?

There is no "up-conversion" to 1080p for broadcast signals as 1080p is not part of the ATSC spec for HDTV and is an unsupported format.

If your display device wants to up-convert to 1080p, then it is the responsibility of said display device to do the job.

There is not, and never will be, a 1080p as part of the HDTV or digital spec as it is written today.

Can a PS3 output it natively? Yes. Other gaming devices and such? Probably. Tuners/receivers? Not today as far as I know.

Why would you want to up-convert to 1080p when the best source you can get from broadcast TV is 1080i? ;)

There is no "up-conversion" to 1080p for broadcast signals as 1080p is not part of the ATSC spec for HDTV and is an unsupported format.

If your display device wants to up-convert to 1080p, then it is the responsibility of said display device to do the job.

There is not, and never will be, a 1080p as part of the HDTV or digital spec as it is written today.

Can a PS3 output it natively? Yes. Other gaming devices and such? Probably. Tuners/receivers? Not today as far as I know.

Why would you want to up-convert to 1080p when the best source you can get from broadcast TV is 1080i? ;)

OK, dumb question, but I'll ask it. Why are so many new TV's boasting that they support 1080p? Is this just for the purpose of playing DVD's and gaming?

OK, dumb question, but I'll ask it. Why are so many new TV's boasting that they support 1080p? Is this just for the purpose of playing DVD's and gaming?

Fixed pixel displays such as DLP and SXRD are inherently 'progressive' by nature. All input formats are converted to 1080p for display in these types of sets.

Supporting a 1080p input format is a different discussion though. It is great for the marketing department but has limited benefits today. Some of the benefits available today are the ones you mentioned... HDDVD/BluRAY and one you didnt mention... video processors such as DVDO. Using 1080p allows HDDVD sources to insure that inverse telecine (3:2 pulldown) is being done properly and not relying on the display to do it. 1080p allows you to bypass the processing in the TV and replace it one of possibly higher quality. Note that for some sets this isnt true as the set still processes the signal for things such as overscan. In my opinioin, for the casual observer/general poplulation... 1080p as an input signal format is of little value today.. except of course to the marketing department.

In my opinioin, for the casual observer/general poplulation... 1080p as an input signal format is of little value today.. except of course to the marketing department.

Disagree.. it allows me to use the same display for both computer and TV. Anything less than 1080p was not enough pixel "real estate".

For the pure video watcher, perhaps overkill. But 1080p serves a very valuable purpose for many.

Mike

Disagree.. it allows me to use the same display for both computer and TV. Anything less than 1080p was not enough pixel "real estate".

For the pure video watcher, perhaps overkill. But 1080p serves a very valuable purpose for many.

Mike

There is no difference in the number of visable pixels between 1080i and 1080p... only in the rate of update of those pixels.

Note also I said for the general public/casual observer. I know a lot of people who still use a 17 inch monitor at 800x600. Joe SixPack doesnt connect his computer to the TV.

I've got two LG HDTVs with TWC and love them. But I've got a non-HDTV question. In our bedroom we've got a small regular TV that's not hooked to the cable (cable is not in a good position for the TV). So for the last 5 years or so I've used a small Terk powered indoor antenna sitting on the top of the TV. Lately the reception has not been that good with the Terk. For example the reception changes greatly if someone walks in the room near the TV; it gets so bad it oftentimes is unwatchable. Have indoor antennas been improved in the last 5 years? Would you recommend another small indoor powered antenna? I just want to set it on top of the set and not in the rafters or attic or on the roof. Thanks for all your help!

Raleigh1208

OK here is where I am now with TW-Raleigh

8300 into 674 - HDMI

674 into Samsung HL-S6187W - HDMI

Old JVC VCR (kids bambi stuff) to 674 - composite

Slightly newer Panasonic DMR-ES20 DVD-R to 674 component video/optical audio.

8300 to DMR-ES20 S-video/composite audio.

Playstation 2 to 674 - composite video/optical audio into game section at the front right of the 674.

All seem to be working OK.

Onr new questions. Can the DMR-ES20 be hooked to the 8300 through the 674 to create DVD' & would this be type of connection be better?

Something has changed I can now pick up UNC-HD but never could before , furthermore ...I picked up UNC-HD after losing the TUBE, I thought I had to re-tune me telly to get The TUBE back however...in doing so I pick up UNC-HD now !! ...


:o ...
I shouldn't have said anything about UNC-HD..coz I gave it the "Kiss o Death" for me at least...for some reason I'm back to where I cannot get UNC-HD...I've touched nothing on my OTA set up.

Anyone have any ideas or knows what's going on with the UNC broadcast station ?

"I'm correcting this statement. I didn't have the antenna element snapped in completely. After fixing that, I am able to get pretty good OTA HD reception with my indoor antenna. "

I returned one of those and that was one of the reasons. Could not get it to stay locked. This was a year ago so it may now be improved.

-DonB2

There is no difference in the number of visable pixels between 1080i and 1080p... only in the rate of update of those pixels.

Note also I said for the general public/casual observer. I know a lot of people who still use a 17 inch monitor at 800x600. Joe SixPack doesnt connect his computer to the TV.

scsi, the statement that "there is no difference in the number of visable pixels between 1080i and 1080p" is a little misleading.

there isn't a difference in the number of pixels in the source signal. both have 1080 lines of resolution. p updates all 1080 lines every frame. i updates half the lines every frame.

however, the 1080p displays have 1080 lines of vertical resolution. the non-1080p displays have less than that. i.e. 720p lcd panels have 720 lines of resolution. RP lcd's have 768 lines of vertical resolution. and so on. when displaying 1080i signals on one of these displays, the 1080 lines of resolution are DOWNSAMPLED to the native resolution and then displayed. the end result is less than the source's 1080 lines of resolution.

on a 1080p display, the 1080i signal is not downsampled, and all 1080 lines of resolution are retained. so a 1080p display will have a better picture than a 720p display when the source is 1080p OR 1080i. and as previously stated, 1080i is being broadcast, and will be for a very long time. 1080p is NOT just marketing hype.

also, as zim was saying, a 1080p display gives a real 1080 vertical lines of screen real estate for PC's (or running the web browser on a PS3) instead of just the 720ish of the other displays. this makes it much better suited for those purposes.

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scsi, the statement that "there is no difference in the number of visable pixels between 1080i and 1080p" is a little misleading.

there isn't a difference in the number of pixels in the source signal. both have 1080 lines of resolution. p updates all 1080 lines every frame. i updates half the lines every frame.

however, the 1080p displays have 1080 lines of vertical resolution. the non-1080p displays have less than that. i.e. 720p lcd panels have 720 lines of resolution. RP lcd's have 768 lines of vertical resolution. and so on. when displaying 1080i signals on one of these displays, the 1080 lines of resolution are DOWNSAMPLED to the native resolution and then displayed. the end result is less than the source's 1080 lines of resolution.

on a 1080p display, the 1080i signal is not downsampled, and all 1080 lines of resolution are retained. so a 1080p display will have a better picture than a 720p display when the source is 1080p OR 1080i. and as previously stated, 1080i is being broadcast, and will be for a very long time. 1080p is NOT just marketing hype.

also, as zim was saying, a 1080p display gives a real 1080 vertical lines of screen real estate for PC's (or running the web browser on a PS3) instead of just the 720ish of the other displays. this makes it much better suited for those purposes.

I agree with what you say.... but I dont believe that was the subject of the discussion. The subject was 1080p vs 1080i as an input format to a 1080 displays (at least that was the way I took it). In that context, I stand by my statement. This points out one of the problems in referring to a display as 1080i or 1080p... is the speaker refering to the way stuff is painted on the screen or the format of the image data. All current stuff such as DLP, SXRD, DILA, LCD, Plasma are progressive in nature. The i and p really refer to the data format... not the display TODAY.

I agree with what you say.... but I dont believe that was the subject of the discussion. The subject was 1080p vs 1080i as an input format to a 1080 displays (at least that was the way I took it).

Not to beat a dead horse... but if we are splitting hairs...

how many 1080 displays do you know of that do not accept 1080p as an input??

As someone that watched the market, and waited until 1080p was available, I am mildly surprised that I missed a 'lesser' technology that would have accomplished the same task and yet presumably been available sooner.

Mike

Not to beat a dead horse... but if we are splitting hairs...

how many 1080 displays do you know of that do not accept 1080p as an input??

As someone that watched the market, and waited until 1080p was available, I am mildly surprised that I missed a 'lesser' technology that would have accomplished the same task and yet presumably been available sooner.

Mike


Sony KDFRxx-XBR1 (First generation Sony SXRD)

Not to beat a dead horse... but if we are splitting hairs...

how many 1080 displays do you know of that do not accept 1080p as an input??

As someone that watched the market, and waited until 1080p was available, I am mildly surprised that I missed a 'lesser' technology that would have accomplished the same task and yet presumably been available sooner.

Mike

Samsung HLR series DLP's...... (corr: vga only input that did 1080p)
Sony 1st gen SXRD.... 50/60XBR1...

Those two alone represent a huge number of product....

Not to beat a dead horse... but if we are splitting hairs...

how many 1080 displays do you know of that do not accept 1080p as an input??

As someone that watched the market, and waited until 1080p was available, I am mildly surprised that I missed a 'lesser' technology that would have accomplished the same task and yet presumably been available sooner.


I don't know how you missed the irony of the first gen 1080p's. It was widely covered because people could not get around the fact that the HDMI inputs could not provide signals the screens were capable of.

For about a year the HP DLPs were the only models of 1080p input capable sets on the market.

Sony KDFRxx-XBR1 (First generation Sony SXRD)

Figures there would be one/several out there... :)

In *general* (for flat panels), a set that can input 1080i, but not 1080p, has less than 1080 lines of resolution. Ergo, when you tell someone they should be ok with 1080i inputs, you are selling them a set that will not display 1080 lines, but will downscale that to a display with only 768/720 lines.

Several of the early sets in the Sony category received a lot of grief (on hdbeat.com, etc) for marketing themselves as 1080p, even tho they could not accept 1080p inputs (the Sony XBR1 that I found online was listed as 1080p, even tho it only had 1080i inputs). I don't think this was limited to Sony, but don't remember the specifics (just the overall controversy)

Mike

I agree with what you say.... but I dont believe that was the subject of the discussion. The subject was 1080p vs 1080i as an input format to a 1080 displays (at least that was the way I took it). In that context, I stand by my statement. This points out one of the problems in referring to a display as 1080i or 1080p... is the speaker refering to the way stuff is painted on the screen or the format of the image data. All current stuff such as DLP, SXRD, DILA, LCD, Plasma are progressive in nature. The i and p really refer to the data format... not the display TODAY.

cool. we both agree. i just wanted to make sure people reading understood there is a real benefit to a "1080p" native resolution display, and it isn't just hype.

in reality, and i think this is what you were getting at, the marketing people screwed up a bit since they use the same labels to describe the source material resolution and the native display resolution. the 1080i/p labels have morphed from the HD spec and now mean different things depending on which you are talking about. i think they should have kept the 1080i/p with the input formats and then used different terminology to describe the native resolution of the display. like maybe ... 1080 native resolution (novel idea, call it what it is). because as it stands now, a 1080p display seems to mean the display has 1080 lines of resolution. but, it could easily be twisted into a native 720p display that accepts 1080p signals, or in the case of 1st gen sxrd 1080p native resolution limited to 1080i and/or 720p input sources.

I noticed the BB and Circuit City ads in the newspaper on Sunday show Plasmas with 720P and than a few high end ones with 1080P. As I recall last year they advertised 1080i sets and ED sets mostly.

I think the sales people figure it looks like a bigger improvement to compare 720P to 1080P than it does to advertise 1080i to 1080P.

-DonB2

well, I'm a total newb here - I'm assuming my questions have been answered millions of times in this monstrous thread. I tried searching for a few terms but my results were spotty at best.

I'm having my VERY FIRST HDTV (Samsung HL-S6187) delivered a week from today

still deciding on who to go through for programming (direct, dish, or TWC) - currently have dish for SD programming

anyway, no matter who I go with, I want to attempt OTA HD reception for locals (i understand I have to go OTA if I choose one of the satellites, since they don't offer Raleigh locals yet) - I'm in NE Raleigh about 1 mile north of Glenwood between Lynn and Ebenezer Church, 2-story home

I would ideally like to use a small indoor antenna as I would rather not put something on the roof and I'm not sure about the wiring from the attic. What is the recommended indoor antenna? According to antennaweb, the signals would all be coming from the same direction. And if I need to use an attic antenna, how do I get the signal/wiring to my 1st floor TV?

And what are the typical outputs of an antenna - coax?

final question: will I be able to hook the antenna directly into the TV (ATSC tuner) and receive HD?

I'm having my VERY FIRST HDTV (Samsung HL-S6187) delivered a week from today

still deciding on who to go through for programming (direct, dish, or TWC) - currently have dish for SD programming



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I would ideally like to use a small indoor antenna as I would rather not put something on the roof and I'm not sure about the wiring from the attic. What is the recommended indoor antenna? According to antennaweb, the signals would all be coming from the same direction. And if I need to use an attic antenna, how do I get the signal/wiring to my 1st floor TV?


depends on your reception conditions. Some places can use a "small indoor" antenna, others require a large outside antenna.


And what are the typical outputs of an antenna - coax?


typically - yes. YOu may have to pput a balen to hook the antenna to the coax.


final question: will I be able to hook the antenna directly into the TV (ATSC tuner) and receive HD?

If your new Samsung has a built in ATSC tuner, and is an HDTV set - you WILL be able to view HDTV from your Samsung. Most any TV 27 inches and larger are now coming with an ATSC tuner.

depends on your reception conditions. Some places can use a "small indoor" antenna, others require a large outside antenna.


so it's basically trial-by-error then? anyone in my general area willing to point me in the direction of what equipment should I start with?

well, I'm a total newb here - I'm assuming my questions have been answered millions of times in this monstrous thread. I tried searching for a few terms but my results were spotty at best.

I'm having my VERY FIRST HDTV (Samsung HL-S6187) delivered a week from today

still deciding on who to go through for programming (direct, dish, or TWC) - currently have dish for SD programming

anyway, no matter who I go with, I want to attempt OTA HD reception for locals (i understand I have to go OTA if I choose one of the satellites, since they don't offer Raleigh locals yet) - I'm in NE Raleigh about 1 mile north of Glenwood between Lynn and Ebenezer Church, 2-story home

I would ideally like to use a small indoor antenna as I would rather not put something on the roof and I'm not sure about the wiring from the attic. What is the recommended indoor antenna? According to antennaweb, the signals would all be coming from the same direction. And if I need to use an attic antenna, how do I get the signal/wiring to my 1st floor TV?

And what are the typical outputs of an antenna - coax?

final question: will I be able to hook the antenna directly into the TV (ATSC tuner) and receive HD?

i was living really close to there (lynn and leesville) up until a few months back. i had great reception with a Terk hdtvi indoor antenna (basically a copy of the silver sensor). they run about $25 online, or $40+ at circuit city/best buy. the antenna is coax out that will go directly into your tuner.

directv does have some local HD broadcasts on satellite (WTVD-abc, WNCN-nbc, WLFL-?). they currently do not have WRAL-cbs and WRAZ-fox as their parent company (capitol broadcasting company) and directv are having a dispute about the market area.

so it's basically trial-by-error then? anyone in my general area willing to point me in the direction of what equipment should I start with?

Most likely it will not work. You may get some reception, but it will go blank every few seconds and be unwatchable. You may have success putting the antenna in your attic.

I don't think there's any magic antenna that pulls in every channel no matter where you place it. I have a $8 set of rabbit ears that i bought at home depot, installed in the attic, and it picks up all the raleigh stations and also the ChapelHill UNC stations which are in the other direction.

Unless you mount something outside, and up high, it's gonna be trial and error. Even within your attic, you will need to move the antenna around to many locations and see what works best.

How you get the wiring from the attic to the first floor depends on many things. If you have an existing cable outlet somewhere upstairs, you could splice into it and find the other end in your crawlspace.. if you have a crawlspace.

its ACC basketball season again, and lincoln financial sports (used to be RaycomJefferson) is still only broadcasting the games in SD. their old excuse was that it wasn't feasible to produce HD because there wasn't a standard that could be syndicated. same reason that wheel of fortune and jeapordy weren't delivered in HD. well, WoF and Jeapordy are delivered in HD now, so apparently syndicated HD is feasible. anyone heard what their latest excuse is for not having ACC sports in HD?

Big Hath,

I at first spliced into my cable existing line that was running thru the attic but I have since ran a white coax cable down the side of the house next to the chimney where it is not too obvious than into the crawlspace and out into the media room.

If you have a attic mounted hot water heater that has a drain built in you could try going down through that but I have not tried this approach.

Donb2

Hooked up my outdoor antenna. Went to antennaweb and got my compus berring for 5.1, 11.1, 17.1, 22.1 and 50.1. All channels are located at bearing 122 and 17.1 miles away. All channels except 50.1 give me 95-100% signal strength. Problem is 50.1 comes in around 80% and fluctuates erratically such that the picture comes in and out. If this channel is located at the same spot as all the others how come this channel is so touchy?

http://gear.ign.com/articles/753/753836p1.html

Do you think this is 1080P

DonB2

If you have a attic mounted hot water heater that has a drain built in you could try going down through that but I have not tried this approach.
Donb2

I used the drain from an attic mounted hot water heater, and it worked out pretty well. I ended up feeding a snake down from the attic to the crawl, attaching the coax to the snake, and then pulling it up. It took about 2 hours, mainly because my crawl is pretty shallow, and drain pipe is about as far from the entrance as you can get.

BTW, we had our attic mounted hot water heater moved to the garage about a year ago. The idea of having 50 gallons of water above 2 floors of living space is just inane. I wish they'd disallow this sort of placement in the building codes..

Drew

Drewwho,

I agree and I should mention that anyone who uses your approach should probably only use a spare drain or like in your case use one that is not being used for its original function.

I could easily see the insurance company not covering flood damage if they saw a COAX cable running inside the attic water heater drain.

Some one else suggested to me to use the same path as the AC evaporator lines, I looked into this and it appears that the cavites have been filled with expanding foam.

-DonB2

Since channel 292 is now gone as INHD2, anyone have any idea what channel Fox Sports HD will use for the Canes games? The HD game is no where to be found on the guide. I wonder where/if it will turn up...

Can I still get this antenna free from WRAL? If so, what do I need to do to get it?


Just got an email that WRAL is sending me the CM 4228. Does anyone have one of these, and how difficult will it be to install in my attic? Does it HAVE to go outside? I've read that this is one of the most powerful and popular antennas. I'm not sure how I would install this in my attic, any tips would be appreciated.

Just got an email that WRAL is sending me the CM 4228. Does anyone have one of these, and how difficult will it be to install in my attic?

The only hard parts are finding the sweet spot, and running the cable to the TV ;) I have mine hanging from the rafters with twine, right above my second floor HVAC unit...

Drew

I actually moved a cross beam to gain clearance if and when I decide to add a rotor. I see Channel Master says they sell a raftor mounting connector in one of their catalogs. But I just drilled two holes thru the vertical pipe I purchased at Home Depot and than screwed it to the rafter.

You than can still loosen the ubolts and rotate it.

I still think you can forcast local weather with a attic mount antenna.

In addition I loose signal strength when the shingles become saturated with rain.

I can still raise mine about another 1.5 ft and am thinking about doing it.

I think height will help.

-DonB2

So, a TWC salesperson actually came to the house yesterday. When she found out I'd cancelled my television service with them last year (after the loss of some channels to the new pricing tiers), she went for the hard sell and offered me a pretty good package deal for a year if I came back. So, because I am a sap and because my car insurance just dropped $50/month, I agreed.

Part of this package includes a HD-DVR. I already have a HTPC recording OTA HD with BeyondTV. I guess they are out of the HDDVRs, so they brought out a regular Explorer 7000 today. This is my first experience with a cable company's DVR implementation (after years of TiVo and now BTV). The interface is godwaful, even worse than I would have imagined. I don't suppose the HD versions are any better? (I assume I'd probably be getting an 8000HD or 8300HD?). The only reason I even decided to take the HDDVR was because there are so many primetime schedule conflicts I have. My thought was to have the HTPC record my favorites OTA and pick up the rest on the STB. But man, the interface is torture.

I only have an ATSC tuner card in my HTPC (well, it's one of those Avermedia A180s that may support unencrypted QAM 'someday'). I can't think of any way I'm going to get the new cable content to talk to the HTPC no matter what kind of box I get from TWC. Can't afford a new tuner card. I've also got a generic S2 TiVo sitting around that I may have to put back in service just to get away from the pain that is the Explorer interface.

I guess I'm just thinking out loud here. My only real question is: Do the HD-DVR interfaces suck as much as the Explorer 7000's? And how big a deal is TWC's current shortage of HD boxes (evidently they didn't even have regular non-DVR HD STBs.)

Just the fact that I can't seem to make it stop showing the channels I have 'hidden' in the Settings when viewing the guide data is enough to make me twitchy.

The 8300HD is a very capable dvr, with a nice interface. I was at the Cary TWC office the other day and they were also out of the HD boxes and DVR's.

You should call them once a week until you can swap for an 8300.

But there is no way to remove any of the channels from the guide.

I have the 8300 interface URL somewhere..

Here it is.. (had to get 5 posts to post a link)

http://www.pioneerdigital.com/passportecho/passportecho.asp#

its ACC basketball season again, and lincoln financial sports (used to be RaycomJefferson) is still only broadcasting the games in SD. their old excuse was that it wasn't feasible to produce HD because there wasn't a standard that could be syndicated. same reason that wheel of fortune and jeapordy weren't delivered in HD. well, WoF and Jeapordy are delivered in HD now, so apparently syndicated HD is feasible. anyone heard what their latest excuse is for not having ACC sports in HD?
drill, I'm right with you. I went to watch the Carolina-Virginia game, one of the first times I've had a chance since the new large tv and after I finally found it on Raycom I sat there astounded by how horrible the SD picture was. Is it just long shots vs close ups or are the high-up cameras that follow the game from above worse than the hand-held cameras the guys have down near the court?

The 8300HD is a very capable dvr, with a nice interface. I was at the Cary TWC office the other day and they were also out of the HD boxes and DVR's.

You should call them once a week until you can swap for an 8300.

But there is no way to remove any of the channels from the guide.

I picked up the 8300HD Wednesday afternoon right after the Cary office got more of them in. I've had the regular 8300 for several months before getting HD. I like the functionality of the recorder, but I still think it's buggy. Nothing major, but there are lots of little things that annoy me. It's still a pretty nice receiver.

I picked up the 8300HD Wednesday afternoon right after the Cary office got more of them in. I've had the regular 8300 for several months before getting HD. I like the functionality of the recorder, but I still think it's buggy. Nothing major, but there are lots of little things that annoy me. It's still a pretty nice receiver.

So the let customers pick them up now.... When I got mine, they required a service visit to deliver the box.

Was the one you picked up 'new' or 'pre-owned'?

They didn't have any problem letting me swap the box out at the office on High House. I called the cable rep that set up my service for me and he said to just go by and do it myself if I wanted to. He told me that it would be a $30 fee if they brought it out to me.

I'm not sure if the 8300hd I received was new or pre-owned. I wasn't given a box for it, but it did have plastic film over the display and didn't appear to have been scratched or scuffed anywhere.

drill, I'm right with you. I went to watch the Carolina-Virginia game, one of the first times I've had a chance since the new large tv and after I finally found it on Raycom I sat there astounded by how horrible the SD picture was. Is it just long shots vs close ups or are the high-up cameras that follow the game from above worse than the hand-held cameras the guys have down near the court?

i'm guessing that we have just gotten used to the clarity of an HD picture. i think fuzzy pictures were "good enough" in the past. but now that we have seen HD ... it just doesn't cut it.

i sent LFS an email asking them about HD now that WoF and Jeopardy are in HD. their response was that only 8 of their 41 affiliated stations could handle an HD signal. i find that VERY hard to believe ... but they did say that its only a "matter of months, not years" before they start producing *some* games in HD. didn't sound like it would be this basketball season though. :( having to watch the ACC tournament in crappy SD this year is going to be excruciating. especially since its in HD on ESPN, but they have to black it out thanks to LFS having the local rights.

^Watch an SD game on ESPN...theres a big difference between that and a Raycom broadcast.

Since channel 292 is now gone as INHD2, anyone have any idea what channel Fox Sports HD will use for the Canes games? The HD game is no where to be found on the guide. I wonder where/if it will turn up...
Its listed on inHD (291) now....last Sunday the Stanford-Virginia game on FSN showed up there as well. Unfortunately, its replacing the VS-HD game that night, and I imagine there will be more issues in the future with VS-HD, NBA-HD, and inHD MLB games. TWC needs a "special events" channel for these games so we arent limited to "one or the other", or just use the MHD channel for extra games.

so there's no way to change the sidebars from grey to black?

Those of you that have HR20's another software update is now being released by the force update method 02468.
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Version 0119.

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go to www.dbstalk.com

for release notes.

Hooked up my outdoor antenna. Went to antennaweb and got my compus berring for 5.1, 11.1, 17.1, 22.1 and 50.1. All channels are located at bearing 122 and 17.1 miles away. All channels except 50.1 give me 95-100% signal strength. Problem is 50.1 comes in around 80% and fluctuates erratically such that the picture comes in and out. If this channel is located at the same spot as all the others how come this channel is so touchy?

I have the exact same problem! What gives?!? Does anyone know what can be done? I don't want to get cable but my 24 addiction has taken hold again and I couldn't even watch tonight's premier!

Anyody heard which way the wind's blowin' in the on-going pissin' contect between Capital Broadcasting and DirecTV with regards to HD locals on DTV? This is ridiculous!

I also get bad multipath on Fox.

My guess is that Capitol Broadcasting wants more then Directv is willing to pay and at the same time until Directv gets their new satellites up they are in no hurry to add more HD channels.

"I also get bad multipath on Fox."

Are you so close that you are overdriving your Tuner?

Can you move your antenna slightly one way or the other?

-DonB2

Anyody heard which way the wind's blowin' in the on-going pissin' contect between Capital Broadcasting and DirecTV with regards to HD locals on DTV? This is ridiculous!

I feel the same way. Right now I have the 3lnb dish but Direct is coming on the 28th to install the 5lnb and the HR20. Problem is that Directv doesn't carry the Capital Brod stations as you mentioned. So I ordered a DB2 Antenna Direct and a CM 7778 pre-amp b/c according to antennaweb I'm 32 miles away from the antennas. During the daytime until exactly 3:30 pm, I have multipath issues with WRAL and WRAZ as they go in and out. After 3:30 the stations are fine and rock solid. I guess Capital feels that their hd station programming is worth more than the other local stations. I don't get it. I mean, I do get it b/c it's about the money. But Directv is paying them to retrans the hd locals and TWC isn't paying them anything. I know that broadcasters are moving towards making the cable cos pay as well but this issue with Capital and Directv stinks.

I just got my 5LNB dish and HR20 installed last Friday from DirecTV. Part of the install was also to install an OTA that I had purchased (Stealth Antenna). The installer installed it in a place where one side of the antenna (I believe this is the VHF part of the antenna) is in contact with the house and the antenna is pointing in the direction of some fairly tall (but thin) pine trees. Could either of these have anything to do with my issues? I live in NW Raleigh near Leesville and I-540.

I'm only really concerned about getting WRAL and WRAZ OTA since DirecTV doesn't over them at this time. I'm having a bit of a problem.

5.1 - Comes in fine at times, HR20 says searching for signal from time to time
5.2 - Comes in fine at times, HR20 says searching for signal from time to time
5.3 - Doesn't come in at all
5.4 - Doesn't come in at all

50.1 - Comes in fine
50.2 - Comes in fine

As for the other ones 11.1, 11.2, 17.1, 17.2, 17.3, 22.1 etc, all seem to come in fine (but I don't watch them very often since DirecTV offers them as HD).

I saw someone's post with some information on contacting WRAL and how to get an antenna from them.

My questions are:
1. Does the VHF part of the antenna matter for WRAL?
2. Should I try to move the antenna so it no longer touches the roof?
3. Anyone else experiencing something similar?

Regards,
Todd

The VHF part of the antenna does not matter for WRAL or any other channel in Raleigh at this time. The only VHF digital would be on 10 from Greenville. You might want to keep the antenna from touching the house, as it could cause multi-paths. Take WRAL up on their antenna give-away. They will probably give you a CM 4221.(or at least that is what I would want)! :D

Anyody heard which way the wind's blowin' in the on-going pissin' contect between Capital Broadcasting and DirecTV with regards to HD locals on DTV? This is ridiculous!

No kidding. I just picked up a second, cheap HTL-HD for the bedroom to tide us over for now. I'm thinking it's going to take months for them to come to an agreement. No sense in leasing an MPEG-4 box until they do.

I also get bad multipath on Fox.

Me too. I address it by popping my Silver Sensor antenna out of its stand and rotating it 90 degrees. This makes it less susceptible to multipath.

mutodd5 ,

Antennas elements should not be grounded - this is a bad thing. Not that a house is that good a ground but why tempt fate.

On the other hand the mast of any antenna used outdoors and perhaps even in doors should be grounded to protect from lightning strikes.

My guess is you are pretty for North for a Stealth.

By the way what direction is the antenna facing?

Donb2

Donb2,

The installer set it up to point at 155 as Antenna Web said they were all at 154, 155, and 156.

As for being pretty far north, it said I'm only 22 miles from the Antenna farm.

5.1 - Comes in fine at times, HR20 says searching for signal from time to time
5.2 - Comes in fine at times, HR20 says searching for signal from time to time
5.3 - Doesn't come in at all
5.4 - Doesn't come in at all


- They must not be broadcasting on those extra two multicast channels 5.3 and 5.4. They may use them during turnaments and don't use them the rest of the time.

All I am saying is if you get 5.1 than you also will get all the multichannels since they all are buried on the same ATSC signal.

I would somehow mark your antenna so you can get it back to original position and than move it slightly to see if it helps get 5.1 in reliably for you.

DonB2

DonB2,

Thanks for the reply. My wife is highly annoyed when 5.1 drops out and causes pixelation during shows or playback from my HR20 DVR.

I'll try to futz with the antenna some. Is there any reason why the thin pine trees would make a difference on 5.1 but not on 50.1?

I hear you the Better half refuses to watch Digital tv if there is any dropout. Most annoying is loss of dialouge.

I do not have this issue with 5.1 but 4.1 has been a problem for 3 years.

I have very tall pine trees completely surrounding my house. I am also in a bowl below normal ground level for Raleigh.

My antenna is probably in the worst location being in the attic.

And yet I get 5.1 very well.

It is also possible that you are getting too strong a signal for 5.1 and it is messing with your tuner.

I guess if it was me I would try another antenna or the adding of a booster to see if it helps.

Than I would get WRAL out there to fix the problem that it is causing you !

-DonB2

I live in Littleton, NC which is about 75 miles east of WRAL's towers. I contacted WRAL and they are sending me one of the UHF antennas. My questions are: What are the odds that I can even receive their channels? I am looking at buying the Dish Network HD which has ABC & NBC in HD but not CBS. Is the quality from OTA that much better than what Dish Network offers? Thanks!

I live in Washington NC atleast 100 miles away. They sent me a 4228 UHF 8 bay antenna, it works great, Im out of the WRAL area but Matt at WRAL got me a antenna. I get NBC, CBS, ABC, CW, MNTV, FOX, SHOP from RDU ffrom 5p-11a. So you may get them, they most likely send you a preamp as well, they sent me one.

HR20 Directv HDDVR owners

Another software beta release canidate will be available for force upgrade Friday and Saturday 11p-1:30a

Free antennas and maybe boosters at 75 and 100 miles away. Wow!

Now you got me wondering what WRAL is up to.

When I heard of them giving them away locally I did not think that much about it. - Except I wanted one.

But when I think about the issues with agreements with DirectTV getting 5.1 HD and than I think about the giving away of antennas up to a 100 mile radius it just makes me wonder if WRAL is using this as leverage to get Direct TV to block out even areas as far away as 100 miles from receiving 5.1 HD over Satellite.

-DonB2

11.1 morning coverage of yesterdays storm.

I have been putting up with 11.1's 4:3 coverage in the morning and also I have been putting up with their scrolling across the screen text news.

But I can't put up with closings tying up 1/4 of the horizontal screen area in addition to the scrolling text. One or the other please, as the screen image is looking like a postage stamp on my tv.


-DonB2

Dont forget the BETA RELEASE on the HR20 tonight at 11p-1:30a by force update.

Speaking of Directv and the new units, some people I know in the area are having some difficultly with their H20/HR20 5 lnb dish setup from Directv. I want to see what the signal levels are for those in the area on the 6 active Ka Transponders.

If you have a H20 or HR20 with the newer 5 lnb Dish from Directv, could you go:

Menu - Select

Setting - Select

Setup - Select

Sat & Ant - Select

View Sat Signals - Select

Arrow up to - ir + and keep hitting to get to Satellite 103 Network 14

The first 6 tansponders should be active - and you might only have a reading on the first few.

If you can give me those 6 transponder signals and note what County you are in it would be helpful - and also allow others to check their signal in this area as there seem to be some dishes that are not aligned properly.

Thank you for your help.

Hey guys and gals... I live in the 27604 zipcode, which antenna web says I am 10 miles away from the broadcast towers for CBS/FOX (5.1 and 50.1, respecively). I have a Winegard SquareShooter 1000 mounted on my roof and pointed in the general direction antenna web laid out, sitting next to my DirecTV 5 LNB dish. I have the D* HR20 HD DVR receiver. My signal strength for 50.1 is pretty solid except when it gets real windy. However, the slightest breeze will disrupt my signal on 5.1 pretty badly.

From what I understand, the two signals are on the same tower. Given that scenario, why would the above situation even happen?

I have tried to "attenuate" the signal by putting the input signal on a 3.5db splitter; all that did was reduce the signal strength.

Currently I have a preamp signal booster and get decent signals during perfect weather conditions. As we all know, those days are far and few between here in Raleigh.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

Sinclair has reached an agreement with TWC. Apparently TWC has been rolling out Sinclair's HD signals, including ABC in Greensboro, over the last few hours. I would suspect that we would see WLFL (CW) sometime in the near future.

As for WRDC (MYTV), since they don't currently broadcast in HD, I don't know if adding the DT has any urgency, especially since they dropped the Tube.

BigBlueEli#10 : At 10 miles, I would suspect overload in the preamp. You should get good advice from others in your area.

Pre-Amps should only be used to make up for cable losses, especially if you are as close as 10 miles. Drop it completely and get a decent (CM 4021?) antenna instead.

Something going on with the TWC website? It looks strangely plain, and the pricing info is only listing 2 line items.

I just wish there was a inexpensive method for all of us to use so we could differentiate between multipath issues and also issues caused by being too close to the transmitters.

Both issues manifest themselves the same way on ATSC receivers. The signal will typically show a medium to high signal strength followed by drop to zero strength and loss of signal. This is random and requires watching the channel for at least 5 to ten minutes in most cases before it manifests itself.

At least in the NTSC analog world you could visually see multipath on UHF channels and it was evident with ghosting. You than could move your antenna just enough to get rid of most of the ghosts if not all. And you had feedback as you did this. You could watch the ghosts go away on the tv screen. But with ATSC multipath you do not have this option. You have no feedback to tell you which incremental move of the antenna is actually removing the multipath.

I am not sure myself how to tell that you are overamping a transmission coming from a close by tower. And I do not even know what and NTSC analog representation of it would look like. The only options I know of are to try removing the amp or adding some kind of variable attenuator.

-DonB2

So, according to:
Sinclair Press Release (http://sbgi.net/press/release_2007122_201.shtml)
the deal just signed between TWC and Sinclair does include the digital broadcasts of WLFL and WRDC. So whats the status of when CW22-HD will be added to TWC? Im really tired of having to find "other means" of watching Veronica Mars and Smallville in HD.

Looks like there was a new push last night to Passport 2.6.002 by TWC. Anyone know what changed?

Is there anyone here that has the HR20 HD DVR and get locals in HD via Greensboro (11, 17, 22)?

If so, do you get guide data for 22? I get guide data for 11 and 17, but 22 just says To Be Announced.

Thanks!

Over the last several days I've noticed a problem with WTVD's (11.1) OTA Primetime HD Broadcasts (i.e. What about Brian, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Bros. and Sis, etc). Basically, the HD pictures slows down and then it speeds up to catch up every 1 or 2 seconds. It almost looks like the picture is pausing and then catching up. The sound is off from the picture by about 1 second. When the shows go to commercial, everything is OK but as soon as the primetime show returns the problem is present. I don't see the problem with non-primetime HD broadcasts (i.e. NBA basketball, Good Morning America, Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, etc). All my other HD channels are OK during Primetime shows.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

My HDTV shows a signal strength of 95% for channel 11.1.

Over the last several days I've noticed a problem with WTVD's (11.1) OTA Primetime HD Broadcasts (i.e. What about Brian, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Bros. and Sis, etc). Basically, the HD pictures slows down and then it speeds up to catch up every 1 or 2 seconds. It almost looks like the picture is pausing and then catching up. The sound is off from the picture by about 1 second. When the shows go to commercial, everything is OK but as soon as the primetime show returns the problem is present. I don't see the problem with non-primetime HD broadcasts (i.e. NBA basketball, Good Morning America, Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, etc). All my other HD channels are OK during Primetime shows.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

My HDTV shows a signal strength of 95% for channel 11.1.

We did not experience this watching Desperate Housewives on sunday night. OTA with a Tivo Series 3.

Sleuth has been added to ch.126 but not activated yet down my way.

So does this mean WRAL won't have the multicast coverage of the tournament?

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6409219.html?display=Breaking+News

Anybody have any connections w/ the folks at WRAL? Directv has offered the package for a while but WRAL has done the multicast for a few years.

^I believe its just a reup deal, they had this package before and I believe it was an exclusive as well (Dish didnt have it before apparently). I dont think it will affect local broadcasters from carrying all games, but I could be wrong.

Any other TWC 8300HD DVR folks lose lots of DVR material?

When I left for work this AM (7:30), I had Studio 60 (from last night) stored on the DVR... when I got home it was gone.

Other material from mid-Dec that I had as a "will watch at some point" comes up as "unavailable", even tho listed on the DVR... @!#%@#$#$^ EDIT: The shows are still listed with full description, but refuse to play.. I have watched partial already (weeks ago), so I know the recording was good.

Mike

Any other TWC 8300HD DVR folks lose lots of DVR material?

When I left for work this AM (7:30), I had Studio 60 (from last night) stored on the DVR... when I got home it was gone.

Other material from mid-Dec that I had as a "will watch at some point" comes up as "unavailable", even tho listed on the DVR... @!#%@#$#$^

Mike
I did notice the upgrade this morning. When I returned this evening I checked and everything I had recorded is still there.

It gets even more bizarre.. I found at least one show that will play (from early Dec).. but I am missing at least 3 recent recordings (past 3 days).. I could have deleted one by mistake, but not all 3...

AND... I now have things listed that I am SURE I deleted over a week ago (stretching back to July)... its almost like there is a backup/snapshot buffer and the update restored the wrong catalog sector....

And, LOL, the phones lines are ringing busy to tech support.. maybe I'm not the only one.. I can't even get thru to get on hold.

EDIT: wondering if it matters whether you have recording from channels that moved (ie. FoodTV moved from 77 to 60).

Mike

Sleuth has been added to ch.126 but not activated yet down my way.
It is active here (Raleigh/Durham)...Mind of a Killer is on now.

Any other TWC 8300HD DVR folks lose lots of DVR material?

When I left for work this AM (7:30), I had Studio 60 (from last night) stored on the DVR... when I got home it was gone.

Other material from mid-Dec that I had as a "will watch at some point" comes up as "unavailable", even tho listed on the DVR... @!#%@#$#$^ EDIT: The shows are still listed with full description, but refuse to play.. I have watched partial already (weeks ago), so I know the recording was good.

Mike

Holy crap. Goodbye last night's episodes of Heroes, Studio 60, 24 and Prison Break.

Morons.

I checked with someone with an 8300 non-HD in Chatham and they didn't lose anything.

On mine it's basically erased everything from the last week and restored the file record of all shows deleted from the previous week, which obviously won't play because the data doesn't exist.

Can anyone with a Tivo series 3, with cable cards, tell us if you are able to receive the free preview of the NBA package this week?

channels 711-719 ?

thanks,

Just got off the phone with TWC and after 5 minutes trying to explain if there was a way to restore the file system on the drive and then blasting the CS rep about how they could rollout an update without knowing what it would do to a good chunk of boxes during the process, I eventually asked for a credit of $2 for the week of shows they just erased. When I was told they couldn't do that because "it wasn't our fault" :rolleyes: I argued that it obviously was and asked to speak to a supervisor.

The CS rep came back and told me they would credit me for two weeks of DVR service.

In the meantime, the internet has thankfully restored what TWC lost.

So did this only affect HD boxes?

I live in an apartment building in Raleigh that allows us to subscribe to D* through a community dish on the roof that is managed through a 3rd party (can't remember the name of the company right now...based in KY I think and manage setups like this all over the country). They have 1 or more dishes on the roof that are wired into each apartment through coax outlets in several rooms. They were put in a year and a half ago when the building was built.

My question is: will I be able to get MPEG4 HD through this setup and more importantly, will I be able to get the channels from the new sats going up this year?

Sorry to hear it wasn't just me that got bitten by this upgrade bug.

As far as I can figure, an old (~Dec 22) catalog listing was restored for me... so the only programs I can play are the 2-3 that I had not deleted since that point. Any programs recorded since were lost. New recordings (from last night) appear to working.

I called TWC to report the issue, not to get my situ fixed (I doubted that was possible) but so that they could look for a pattern and report back to the Passport engineers so they could smack whatever co-op wrote this piece of upgrade code (and hopefully not repeat this stupidity next upgrade)... the CSR I got humored me quite generously, but not really confident any such report will get back to the development team, where it needs to go.

Given that I have just lost 90% of my stored material.. again (previous 8300 died last summer), I'll ver much be looking at the Dish special (free HD DVR) that begins in Feb (tho I'm mildly curious about the "100 channels of HD" hype that DirectTV is spouting (of which I am very skeptical, but moreso interested to see how the other carriers improve in response).

Mike

Hi all,

I have a new HTPC with digital tuner. My question is this. Does TWC stream the Digital Content with unencrypted QAM Locals such that I could tune these in my on PC?

Thanks!

bradesp

Hi all,

I have a new HTPC with digital tuner. My question is this. Does TWC stream the Digital Content with unencrypted QAM Locals such that I could tune these in my on PC?

Thanks!

bradesp

Yes.. ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, and UNC-PBS.

Yes.. ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, and UNC-PBS.


Dumb question, do I just put a splitter on the cable that feeds by set-top box? If so, do I need to use a special splitter because the inbound stream is digital?

Thanks!

bradesp

I called TWC to report the issue, not to get my situ fixed (I doubted that was possible) but so that they could look for a pattern and report back to the Passport engineers so they could smack whatever co-op wrote this piece of upgrade code (and hopefully not repeat this stupidity next upgrade)...

The thing I cannot understand is why they bothered at all. It's an incremental upgrade with no visible improvement and is going to get dumped completely in favor of Time Warner Navigator in a few months based on other reports.

Must remember to watch everything by then. The chances of that going smoothly are not high.

Dumb question, do I just put a splitter on the cable that feeds by set-top box? If so, do I need to use a special splitter because the inbound stream is digital?

Thanks!

bradesp

any splitter should work.

It is active here (Raleigh/Durham)...Mind of a Killer is on now.
They finally got it activated in the middle of the afternoon yesterday down here below Fayetteville. Now if they'd go ahead and add WLFL-DT 22's hd channel.

They finally got it activated in the middle of the afternoon yesterday down here below Fayetteville. Now if they'd go ahead and add WLFL-DT 22's hd channel.

I've been checking for that since Monday as well. With other areas reporting new Sinclair channels suddenly appearing my hopes were raised, but they are fading now.

News14 interview with TWC (javascript:void(window.open('http://rdu.news14.com/shared/video/video_pop.asp?destlist=20745','','width=729,height=518,menub ar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,location=no,stat us=no').focus())) about the waiting list for HD boxes.

I had to fiddle with your link to watch it. http://rdu.news14.com/shared/video/video_pop.asp?destlist=20745

Stating their goal as getting people their STBs before the super bowl is such utter BS. Very few people who purchased an HD tv this year will need one of TWC's set top boxes in order to see the super bowl. Most HD TVs sold these days have QAM, or at least ATSC tuners.

Drew

I had to fiddle with your link to watch it. http://rdu.news14.com/shared/video/video_pop.asp?destlist=20745

Stating their goal as getting people their STBs before the super bowl is such utter BS. Very few people who purchased an HD tv this year will need one of TWC's set top boxes in order to see the super bowl. Most HD TVs sold these days have QAM, or at least ATSC tuners.

thanks for fixing that. Yes I noticed the failure to mention just connecting an antenna as well. In the WRAL report last week, after the segment the newscaster did say you could just add an antenna if you don't have a box.

I also noticed he didn't specify which type of STB you can get by overnight delivery. Does that apply to HD DVRs? I doubt it.

I've been checking for that since Monday as well. With other areas reporting new Sinclair channels suddenly appearing my hopes were raised, but they are fading now.
Yep, my hope is fading quickly. Especially after just getting two channels added and two moved and WLFL CW22 HD not being one of them added.

Yep, my hope is fading quickly. Especially after just getting two channels added and two moved and WLFL CW22 HD not being one of them added.
This should come as no surprise, but here is what I got from Time Warner two hours ago:

"Thank you for taking the time to contact us to request the WLFL HD channel. We are reviewing your request in hopes that we will be able to add the channel to our lineup at some point in the future.

Your opinion is important to us. We are pleased to provide our customers with access to more than 280 channels of entertainment, information, sports, movies, music, community programming and special pay per view events. Customer feedback has helped us program the channel lineup we have today, and we will continue to rely on your input in the future.

Again, thank you for taking the time to email us."

Of course, I did not send the e-mail as a channel request. I asked WHEN we would see it given the TWC/Sinclair agreement. Of course, it also took them four days to remove the banner on their web page about Elizabeth City and others maybe losing their Sinclair channels, well after the agreement was signed. Gotta wonder sometimes how these people make any money. If I ran a business this way, I would not be running a business for long.

NC Jim,

I love the canned responses. I got one from LG about a week ago concerning them coming out with a ATSC DVD recorder.

-DonB2

Where is the info on which of TWC's HD STB's include HDMI output? I've been using an older STB w/ component-only HD and would like to upgrade my old box to feed HDMI to my PJ. Obviously I picked a bad time to do this with the waiting list and all...

Where is the info on which of TWC's HD STB's include HDMI output? I've been using an older STB w/ component-only HD and would like to upgrade my old box to feed HDMI to my PJ. Obviously I picked a bad time to do this with the waiting list and all...

As far as I can recall, the 8300 DVR is the only one in our area with HDMI. The regualr STBs are just component.

You could call and ask them to overnight one to you. It would be interesting to see if they are finally letting all customers install DVRs.

While flicking channels I checked out the Answers on Demand section and found they've added user guides for Time Warner Navigator. That could mean it's going to hit soon or they just uploaded it for other TWC markets.

I thought it looked pretty bad in stills but seeing it on the screen it looks abysmal. It can't possibly be as bad as it is in those video guides. The text is huge, the info banner almost a third of the screen, the play timeline has the time code on the opposite side of the timeline bar, so you can see where you are or when you are, but not both at the same time ...

It looks just terrible, crude and rushed. It looks like a UI designed by someone who has just learned how to use Flash but has no design skill at all. hate all you like on the Echo interface but at least it had some aesthetic touches that made it pleasant to look at.

And I still don't think it's 16:9 capable.

Link to an N&O story about AT&T potentially bringing their TV offerings to the area (at who knows when point.. )

http://www.newsobserver.com/104/story/535896.html

Mike

Leave it to the News and Observer to have that article, considering how cheap they got recently with the TV Guide that comes in Sundays newspaper.


-DonB2

Ok done with TWC no digital cable for over a day both boxs just showing random hex numbers. Called yesterday morning set up appointment for this afternoon (first available) called this morning to confirm. I hear Sorry sir your call has been resolved no technician is scheduled. Guess the fixed it yesterday but never notified me. Sure enough TV is back. Rebooted the modem this morning and now internet is back. No messages no communication nothing. Plan on calling Dish for the free HD-DVR starting Feb 1st. Any complaints with the 622 or service before I jump?

While flicking channels I checked out the Answers on Demand section and found they've added user guides for Time Warner Navigator. That could mean it's going to hit soon or they just uploaded it for other TWC markets.

I thought it looked pretty bad in stills but seeing it on the screen it looks abysmal. It can't possibly be as bad as it is in those video guides. The text is huge, the info banner almost a third of the screen, the play timeline has the time code on the opposite side of the timeline bar, so you can see where you are or when you are, but not both at the same time ...

It looks just terrible, crude and rushed. It looks like a UI designed by someone who has just learned how to use Flash but has no design skill at all. hate all you like on the Echo interface but at least it had some aesthetic touches that made it pleasant to look at.

And I still don't think it's 16:9 capable.
They also have info about Navigator on the twc nc website here (http://www.timewarnercable.com/nc/products/cable/navigator/navigator.html).

Link to an N&O story about AT&T potentially bringing their TV offerings to the area (at who knows when point.. )

http://www.newsobserver.com/104/story/535896.html

Mike


WOW - That sounds great. I know, "Don't hold you breath" and all but the lady in the article Cynthia Marshall has lasted with AT&T for many years thru a ton of crap and essentially obtained what she targets. (from reading the article)

Now she is targeting making TV service in the state a priority for 2007 corporate plans. Sounds good to me. I can barely stomach Time-onopoly Want-yer-money Cable-as-we-like-it-not-as-you-like-it as it is.

If nothing else even the hint of competition is better than what we have now and should force some at TWC to realize they have to improve in the next couple years on service, pricing and options.

Can someone tell me which digital channel numbers need a VHF antenna. If I remember correctly, I saw somewhere in this thread a comment that channels 2 thru about 15 were VHF broadcasts.

Can someone tell me which digital channel numbers need a VHF antenna. If I remember correctly, I saw somewhere in this thread a comment that channels 2 thru about 15 were VHF broadcasts.

VHF - 2 through 13. However, make sure you really are looking at VHF. For example WRAL (5.1) is actually broadcast on 53.

Jeff


Call Letters Digital Channel Physical Channel
WUNC-DT 4.1 PBS 59
WRAL-DT 5.1 CBS 53
WRAZ-DT 50.1 FOX 49
WNCN-DT 17.1 NBC 55
WRPX-DT 47.1 i 15
WUVC-DT 40.1 UNI 38
WRDC-DT 28.1 MNT 27

They also have info about Navigator on the twc nc website here (http://www.timewarnercable.com/nc/products/cable/navigator/navigator.html).

Oh no. It is closer than I hoped. Which makes the recent update even less sense.

Just got off the phone with TWC and after 5 minutes trying to explain if there was a way to restore the file system on the drive and then blasting the CS rep about how they could rollout an update without knowing what it would do to a good chunk of boxes during the process, I eventually asked for a credit of $2 for the week of shows they just erased. When I was told they couldn't do that because "it wasn't our fault" :rolleyes: I argued that it obviously was and asked to speak to a supervisor.

The CS rep came back and told me they would credit me for two weeks of DVR service.

In the meantime, the internet has thankfully restored what TWC lost.

So did this only affect HD boxes?

I'm late to this thread, but I have the HD DVR and it hasn't happened to me yet. I'm hoping it doesn't happen between now and Sunday b/c my Directv HR20 will be installed at that point and I will have watched everything on on the TWC box.

I'm late to this thread, but I have the HD DVR and it hasn't happened to me yet. I'm hoping it doesn't happen between now and Sunday b/c my Directv HR20 will be installed at that point and I will have watched everything on on the TWC box.

Go to channel 999 and check your software version number. If it says 2.6 you've been updated already and should be past the damage.

NC Jim,

I love the canned responses. I got one from LG about a week ago concerning them coming out with a ATSC DVD recorder.

Then you'll love this... Here's the exchange I had with TWC yesterday, over apparent problems with the "upgrade":

Inquiry: The channel lineup change seems to have gone awry. Food Network is on channel 7, Channel 60 is static and CSPAN-2 is nowhere to be found.
Response: Thank you for contacting us. There were some channel changes with a recent upgrade that took place. The C-SPAN 2 channel is now on channel 7 and the Food Network is now on channel 60. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Of course, immediately after receiving the email, I checked, and Food was still on 7 and 60 was still snow... it's been fixed, since.

One other casualty of the upgrade.. my series manager (what to record) was also restored from an old version... I had just added 2 new shows to my lists and they no longer were listed nor being recorded.

Mike

[QUOTE=CCsoftball7]VHF - 2 through 13. However, make sure you really are looking at VHF. For example WRAL (5.1) is actually broadcast on 53.

WRPX-DT 47.1 i 15


So WRPX-DT is still in the UHF band right? Do most UHF antennas work as well down at the lower end of the UHF frequencies? There's a Greensboro station about 80 miles away that I want to try and get. I thought the channel number was 14. Might be ch 15 WRPX mentioned above. I wanted to make sure that the 4228 UHF antenna I have is what I need before I get up on the roof and mess with antennas.

If my notes are correct WRPX on 15 is UHF.

From 14 on is UHF.

2-6 Low VHF
7-13 High VHF and can often be received on a UHF antenna.

Also WRPX will stay on 15 after the move.


-DonB2

The station I want to try to get is ch 14 WGPX. This is the one you were going to try to get a couple days ago. Seventies programs etc.

This may be a dumb question, but I'll ask it. I just got an antenna through WRAL. I started looking at the pain it's going to be to run the coax and came up with this question. Is there such a thing as a wireless connection between the TV and antenna?

WGPX is the PAX/i station for the Triad. It carries the same exact programming as WRPX. WGPX-DT 14 is at full power now, but it isn't very much, only 95 kw and barely makes it to Durham. Their tower is between Reidsville and Greensboro about 800 ft. People in the Triad have trouble receiving it.

This may be a dumb question, but I'll ask it. I just got an antenna through WRAL. I started looking at the pain it's going to be to run the coax and came up with this question. Is there such a thing as a wireless connection between the TV and antenna?

Sorry - no can do. Must be RF cable (preferrably RG6) .

Is there such a thing as a wireless connection between the TV and antenna?

Well, if you have a HTPC, you might be able to get one of these (http://www.silicondust.com/wiki/products/hdhomerun) and stash it, along with a wireless base station, next to your antenna in your attic. Given the 19Mb/s per channel requirement, you'd need a pretty good wireless connection, especially if you wanted to use both tuners.

Drew

"The station I want to try to get is ch 14 WGPX. This is the one you were going to try to get a couple days ago. Seventies programs etc"

I did try getting 14 but had no luck. I do get 47.1 most of the time.

In fact I enjoyed their Christmas music with Snowy winter scenes they were broadcasting before Christmas.

-DonB2

tommy122,

We will your antenna be going ? On the roof or in the attic?

-DonB2

WOW - That sounds great. I know, "Don't hold you breath" and all but the lady in the article Cynthia Marshall has lasted with AT&T for many years thru a ton of crap and essentially obtained what she targets. (from reading the article)

Now she is targeting making TV service in the state a priority for 2007 corporate plans. Sounds good to me. I can barely stomach Time-onopoly Want-yer-money Cable-as-we-like-it-not-as-you-like-it as it is.

If nothing else even the hint of competition is better than what we have now and should force some at TWC to realize they have to improve in the next couple years on service, pricing and options.

What kind of TV service does AT&T provide, FiOS? any links to more information about their service?

tommy122,

We will your antenna be going ? On the roof or in the attic?

-DonB2

I haven't decided yet. I know that I would get the best reception with a roof antenna, but I don't particularly want to go that route. Years ago, I had lightning come in on a antenna and fry most of my stuff. I don't want to risk that with my $2500 plasma TV. That's why I was looking into the possibility of some type of wireless connection. By "wireless" I mean some type of RF device that would transmit the signal from the antenna to the TV. By the replies that I've seen, "Guess Not" :)

What kind of TV service does AT&T provide, FiOS? any links to more information about their service?
Verizon offers FiOS, which is fibre to a converter box (e.g. in your garage) that converts to a
standard cable spectrum (over a hundred analog and QAM digital carriers) for connection to your
house coax wiring....so can connect analog TVs, HD-DVRs, as well as CableCARD HDTV/TiVo Ser3....
http://www22.verizon.com/content/ConsumerFios/

AT&T offers U-VERSE, which uses higher speed DSL (typ. 25 Mbps) on copper phone lines to carry IPTV,
Internet and VoIP Phone service. Many more locations expected throughout this year and next.

The HD-DVR can record up to four SD programs or up to two HD programs at same time,
while watching a recording. Also offers movie and other downloads.
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=5838

Does TWC allow you to get HDTV locals as an add-on to their $12/mo basic package? Or do they require you to get one of the DIGIPiC packages for this?

Over the last several days I've noticed a problem with WTVD's (11.1) OTA Primetime HD Broadcasts (i.e. What about Brian, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Bros. and Sis, etc). Basically, the HD pictures slows down and then it speeds up to catch up every 1 or 2 seconds. It almost looks like the picture is pausing and then catching up. The sound is off from the picture by about 1 second. When the shows go to commercial, everything is OK but as soon as the primetime show returns the problem is present. I don't see the problem with non-primetime HD broadcasts (i.e. NBA basketball, Good Morning America, Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, etc). All my other HD channels are OK during Primetime shows.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

My HDTV shows a signal strength of 95% for channel 11.1.

hgodina, What brand of TV do you have? Does it have an integrated tuner? If not, what tuner are you using?

I have been experiencing problems as well. Sorry I just now came to the forum to discuss them. I have an LG set top tuner that seems to be working fine. However, I have a Vboxx Cat's Eye 150 in my PC that is NOT working fine. When using my PC tuner, the WTVD hd broadcasts look as though they're skipping frames ... but only during certain runs of the broadcast ... sometimes the video looks smooth, but sometimes the video gets very choppy like it's being encoded at 10 frames per second instead of the 60 that 720p is suppsed to be. Also, if I record the broadcast to disk using the Media Center application that's on my pc the bitstream ends up looking like it's about half the size that it used to be (up until a couple of weeks ago).

Who else is seeing problems? A show of hands?

I have seen problems on Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, and Brothers & Sisters.

The problem seems to be hardware specific. I had originally thought that the problem was due to my own PC hardware, but verification that someone else is experiencing problems makes me want to tell WTVD that whatever they're doing, I wish they'd stop it.

Does TWC allow you to get HDTV locals as an add-on to their $12/mo basic package? Or do they require you to get one of the DIGIPiC packages for this?

Jeff,

If you have a QAM tuner, you don't even need to subscribe to an add-on package, since all of the locals are unencrypted. So, the $12 plan is all you need. (And all I subscribe to)

Jeff,

If you have a QAM tuner, you don't even need to subscribe to an add-on package, since all of the locals are unencrypted. So, the $12 plan is all you need. (And all I subscribe to)


Ditto for me.
NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX & PBS - Free and clear.
I guess someday we could hope to get the CW. (channel 22)

I do miss ESPN-HD, TNT-HD and Discovery HD a good bit, but not enough to justify the cost.

Does TWC allow you to get HDTV locals as an add-on to their $12/mo basic package? Or do they require you to get one of the DIGIPiC packages for this?

You can get most of those channels for free with an antenna. Even CW.

Thanks for the answers.... Next question:

For HDTV locals, how does the reception/picture quality that I might get with an antenna (in Holly Springs) compare with what I would get with TWC? I'm primarily interested in just CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX.

I'm off 55 between holly springs and fuquay, and get all the locals perfect with a set of rabbit ears in the attic. The HD picture is as good or better than thru Time Warner.

Thanks for the answers.... Next question:

For HDTV locals, how does the reception/picture quality that I might get with an antenna (in Holly Springs) compare with what I would get with TWC? I'm primarily interested in just CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX.

Once again I'm late to the party, but I connected a indoor antenna to my tv 3 weeks ago so that I can get the hd locals and I also am getting the hd locals thru TWC for now. I have noticed somewhat of a different but some people my not be able to tell. For example, I watch CSI: Miami and I notice that on the panning shots of downtown Miami, the TWC version will pixelate a little bit more than the OTA version. I also some difference while watch Heros.

I just tweaked the antenna today, and now i'm also getting CBS 2.1 and Fox 48.1 from Greensboro.

48 (dtv 33) in Greensboro is My Network, not FOX. FOX is 8.1 (dtv 35).

48 (dtv 33) in Greensboro is My Network, not FOX. FOX is 8.1 (dtv 35).

That's what I meant. But what does dtv33 and dtv35 mean?

Channel 48's digital channel is 33 and channel 8's digital channel is 35.

Over the last several days I've noticed a problem with WTVD's (11.1) OTA Primetime HD Broadcasts (i.e. What about Brian, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Bros. and Sis, etc). Basically, the HD pictures slows down and then it speeds up to catch up every 1 or 2 seconds. It almost looks like the picture is pausing and then catching up. The sound is off from the picture by about 1 second. When the shows go to commercial, everything is OK but as soon as the primetime show returns the problem is present. I don't see the problem with non-primetime HD broadcasts (i.e. NBA basketball, Good Morning America, Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, etc). All my other HD channels are OK during Primetime shows.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

My HDTV shows a signal strength of 95% for channel 11.1.

I am having the exact same problem (except that I cannot tell my signal strength). I just purchased my first HD set. I was confused as to if this could be a low signal or something (but the picture never pixelates or breaks up). But it really sounds like a hardware problem judging from the fact that not everyone has this problem.

Please let me know if you figure anything out!

And if it matters my Tv is a: Vizio P50HDTV10A.

HR20 directv hd dvr owners

New test software update available tonight and Monday by force update.

reset at welcome screen hit 02468 on remote

0x11f

www.dbstalk.com
for more

Ditto for me.
NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX & PBS - Free and clear.
I guess someday we could hope to get the CW. (channel 22)

I do miss ESPN-HD, TNT-HD and Discovery HD a good bit, but not enough to justify the cost.

I tried to tune these stations in off cable with an LG 3510A, but got nothing watchable. The LG is supposed to have a Qam tuner. Any idea what the problem might be?

I tried to tune these stations in off cable with an LG 3510A, but got nothing watchable. The LG is supposed to have a Qam tuner. Any idea what the problem might be? I have a 3510 and used to be able to watch unscrambled QAM channels when I had cable. You must set up your LG for the correct cable setting and then scan for channels. You won't get TNT HD, Discovery HD, and some other cable channels that aren't broadcast in the clear anymore. Assuming you have decent signal strength at your connection point you should be able to get the networks, at least ... and possibly a few standard def digital channels that are broadcast in the clear.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by hgodina
Over the last several days I've noticed a problem with WTVD's (11.1) OTA Primetime HD Broadcasts (i.e. What about Brian, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Bros. and Sis, etc). Basically, the HD pictures slows down and then it speeds up to catch up every 1 or 2 seconds. It almost looks like the picture is pausing and then catching up. The sound is off from the picture by about 1 second. When the shows go to commercial, everything is OK but as soon as the primetime show returns the problem is present. I don't see the problem with non-primetime HD broadcasts (i.e. NBA basketball, Good Morning America, Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, etc). All my other HD channels are OK during Primetime shows.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

My HDTV shows a signal strength of 95% for channel 11.1.

hgodina, What brand of TV do you have? Does it have an integrated tuner? If not, what tuner are you using?

I have been experiencing problems as well. Sorry I just now came to the forum to discuss them. I have an LG set top tuner that seems to be working fine. However, I have a Vboxx Cat's Eye 150 in my PC that is NOT working fine. When using my PC tuner, the WTVD hd broadcasts look as though they're skipping frames ... but only during certain runs of the broadcast ... sometimes the video looks smooth, but sometimes the video gets very choppy like it's being encoded at 10 frames per second instead of the 60 that 720p is suppsed to be. Also, if I record the broadcast to disk using the Media Center application that's on my pc the bitstream ends up looking like it's about half the size that it used to be (up until a couple of weeks ago).

Who else is seeing problems? A show of hands?

I have seen problems on Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, and Brothers & Sisters.

The problem seems to be hardware specific. I had originally thought that the problem was due to my own PC hardware, but verification that someone else is experiencing problems makes me want to tell WTVD that whatever they're doing, I wish they'd stop it.

I had problems again watching Brothers & Sisters last night.

Anyone experiencing problems should contact WTVD and voice your concerns as I've already done.

"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

HR20 HDDVR OWNERS- new software
Directv is sending a newer version down tonight by force update.
This corrects issues from Sundays beta version.

11p-1:30 am

For two weeks in a row now, Studio 60 has looked really bad on NBC HD using a TW DVR. Has anybody else noticed? The Thursday shows look pretty good but for some reason Studio 60 doesn't. Any ideas why this is?

For two weeks in a row now, Studio 60 has looked really bad on NBC HD using a TW DVR. Has anybody else noticed? The Thursday shows look pretty good but for some reason Studio 60 doesn't. Any ideas why this is?

when you say "bad", how so.

I watched mine via the chase buffer last night.. I did not notice any pixelation. Maybe a tad on the washed out side, but I only even noticed that after readnig a long thread about LCDs and color display abilities earlier in the day...

Mike

It looked like a standard def. picture to me. I watched to show and then switched to the WRAL news and was shocked by how clear WRAL was.

For two weeks in a row now, Studio 60 has looked really bad on NBC HD using a TW DVR. Has anybody else noticed? The Thursday shows look pretty good but for some reason Studio 60 doesn't. Any ideas why this is?

It's not local. I asked the same thing in the Studio 60 thread. It seems to be a Studio 60 problem as well since other NBC shows look fine.

Any word on what plans WRAL has for bandwidth during the Super Bowl? I saw in the Greensboro thread that WFMY plans to rob bandwidth from the subchannel as much as possible. Also curious what TWC may have planned to compensate.

Thanks

So I was looking at my HR-20 guide tonight while watching the Gilmore Girls in HD and and I noticed noticed WRAL and WRAZ in addition to the WRAZ-DT and WRAL-DT from my antenna and the SD versions of those stations that Directv offers. So I select the WRAZ channel and American Idol was there in glorious HD. I then selected the WRAL station and the GT basketball game was on but b/c it wasn't in HD it was in 4:3 with the black bars on the side. Finally, Directv and Capital were able to come to an agreement in time for the Super Bowl.

YES!! FINALLY!!!!!!!

Email from WRAL:

Dear Eric,



Capitol Broadcasting Company is pleased to announce that DirecTV, WRAL-HD, and WRAZ-HD have reached an agreement that allows DirecTV to provide WRAL-HD and WRAZ-HD signals to their paying subscribers.



As most of you are aware, DirecTV’s current spot beam only covers 75% of the TV house holds in the Raleigh market. According to DirecTV if you live in one of the listed zip codes below you may be apart of the 25% of the market that is affected. While this coverage is not optimum for either party, DirecTV is working aggressively to resolve this technical issue and they hope to have a new spot beam in place to cover the entire market by the end of the year.



There is more good news for DirecTV HD-DVR owners. Approximately 30 days ago DirecTV started pushing updates to the HD-DVRs to fix the off air tuner problem. If this was an issue for you I suggest you check out your HD-DVR and see if the update has been downloaded to your device. Please remember that the over-the-air HD signal is still far superior to the HD signal provided by DirecTV and you will also be able to see the additional standard definition signals that all of the local stations include in their HD streams.



Here are the effected zip codes:



23915

24529

27302

27537

27565

27581

27844

28361

23917

24580

27305

27537

27565

27582

27850

28370

23919

24598

27325

27541

27570

27583

27850

28373

23920

27209

27341

27541

27572

27583

27870

28374

23924

27231

27343

27551

27572

27584

27887

28376

23927

27242

27356

27553

27572

27586

27890

28377

23950

27243

27376

27553

27572

27589

28315

28386

23964

27278

27507

27556

27573

27594

28315

28387

23968

27281

27507

27563

27574

27823

28327

28388

23970

27291

27536

27565

27574

27839

28357







While DirecTV and Capitol Broadcasting realize this is not a perfect solution for the entire market, it is the best that both parties can do at this juncture. We sincerely appreciate your patience as DirecTV and Capitol Broadcasting have worked to provide you with the best possible solution to see both WRAL-HD and WRAZ-HD via DirecTV or over-the-air



Dish Update: Capitol Broadcasting is still waiting for a counter offer from Dish. We started negotiations in October and are hopeful to regain momentum soon. If you are a Dish subscriber and have not yet taken advantage of our free over-the-air antenna giveaway program, please follow this link to participate. http://www.wral.com/wral-tv/story/1180307/





Respectfully,



Chuck deCourt

Station Manager

WRAL-TV

Im sure they will drop WRAL NEWS CHANNEL like they do during the NCAA men's championship game.

FYI, I emailed him back to ask when this will happen, he said they turned it on last night. Even better!

Now that TWC has signed with Sinclair (and the 2 Raleigh Sinclair stations are included in the agreement) ... there is no reason why TWC Raleigh does not offer HD channels for WLFL (CW 22) and WRDC (MyNetworkTV 28). I've emailed George Douglas (Mktg VP for TWC Raleigh), but have gotten no response.

If you are at all interested, I'd encourage you to email him. Maybe he'll respond to somebody.

george.douglas@twcable.com

Is WRDC HD? I was able to pull it OTA, but only got digital 480i.

What I like about WRAL is they respond to questions and feedback. I have emailed WTVD trying to get a timetable on their HD plans and get nothing.

What I like about WRAL is they respond to questions and feedback. I have emailed WTVD trying to get a timetable on their HD plans and get nothing.

Your right, they will respond back. They were great to work with when they sent me my free antenna (which I actually won't really need now) and now this.

YES!! FINALLY!!!!!!!

Email from WRAL:

Dear Eric,



OK, it's getting harder to resist the MPEG-4 upgrade now. I think I'm going to stay with MPEG-2 until some HD exclusives start popping up on MPEG-4. I can live with antennas for a little longer unless some unbelievable upgrade deal comes along.

I was watching 11.2 last night around 10:30. Typically I thought it was a 4:3 version of 11.1. But last night it was a completly different broadcast.

I wish I could remember what the show is called but I can't. Don't get excited it had a info commercial flare to it.

-DonB2

I had problems again watching Brothers & Sisters last night.

Anyone experiencing problems should contact WTVD and voice your concerns as I've already done.

"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

I called today and they said that they have switched back to an older "encoder" (last night). Last nights programming looked fine to me. I hope it is fixed!

PS: The engineer was _very_ helpful.

I wish that Directv would find some way to get guide data for the CW digital station. I don't know what company provides the programming listing for the local digital stations to Directv, but I would like to email them about the missing guide data for CW-DT. I have setup manual recordings for some of the shows I record on the CW-DT, but you can't link to a series names and therefore, you can't do the record only first run thing. Anyone know what company to contact?

Is WRDC HD? I was able to pull it OTA, but only got digital 480i.


No. The CW is available in HD, but not WRDC. I'm able to get 48.1 which is My Network Tv out of Greensboro, which I think is HD, but haven't confirmed yet..

48.2 is the HD channel according to their website.

No. The CW is available in HD, but not WRDC. I'm able to get 48.1 which is My Network Tv out of Greensboro, which I think is HD, but haven't confirmed yet..

48.2 is the HD channel according to their website.

OK. That's what I thought. I removed the station from my tuner since it wasn't in HD. If it were, I would have "shown" it again.

Thanks.

I called today and they said that they have switched back to an older "encoder" (last night). Last nights programming looked fine to me. I hope it is fixed!

PS: The engineer was _very_ helpful. Wonderful! Thanks for the info. I'll definitely reply if I see problems. But, I'll assume for now that it's fixed.

It would be nice if WTVD would reply to email. Next time I'll have to pick up the phone I guess, as you did. WRAL/WRAZ is terrific at responding to customer questions. WTVD should take note.

No. The CW is available in HD, but not WRDC. I'm able to get 48.1 which is My Network Tv out of Greensboro, which I think is HD, but haven't confirmed yet..

48.2 is the HD channel according to their website.


WMYV-DT only has one channel on the air currently and it is 48.1 and it is 720p and shows the MyNetwork programming in 720p HD.

I wish that Directv would find some way to get guide data for the CW digital station. I don't know what company provides the programming listing for the local digital stations to Directv, but I would like to email them about the missing guide data for CW-DT. I have setup manual recordings for some of the shows I record on the CW-DT, but you can't link to a series names and therefore, you can't do the record only first run thing. Anyone know what company to contact?

Check out http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=78285

There is a discussion going on over there, along with a few tips on who to email and how to maybe get the guide data. I'm the same way, frustrated that the guide data isn't there. But I'm going to try what others recommended in that post.

Check out http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=78285

There is a discussion going on over there, along with a few tips on who to email and how to maybe get the guide data. I'm the same way, frustrated that the guide data isn't there. But I'm going to try what others recommended in that post.

Thanks, just read the thread. I email Zap2it. If we get enough people emailing maybe they'll get the issue fixed.

WMYV-DT only has one channel on the air currently and it is 48.1 and it is 720p and shows the MyNetwork programming in 720p HD.

I see that now. 48.2 is listed as The Tube which I guess they dropped, just like the raleigh station did.

I see that now. 48.2 is listed as The Tube which I guess they dropped, just like the raleigh station did.

Actually Sinclair, the company that owns both stations, terminated their agreement with the Tube. Only one station in North Carolina still carries it.

For those of you who are DirecTV subscribers, good news!

Check the WRAL website and search for "WRAL-HD Super Bowl Broadcast Will Beam to Most DirectTV Dishes" I can't put links in yet!

It sounds like it is supposed to be available in time for the Superbowl, but I don't have them in my HR20's guide yet, but if I search for programs for next week, I see a 5 WRALD and a 50 WRAZD channel in addition to the 5 RD5 and 50 RD50 stations.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get them to show up in the guide?

For those of you who are DirecTV subscribers, good news!

Check the WRAL website and search for "WRAL-HD Super Bowl Broadcast Will Beam to Most DirectTV Dishes" I can't put links in yet!

It sounds like it is supposed to be available in time for the Superbowl, but I don't have them in my HR20's guide yet, but if I search for programs for next week, I see a 5 WRALD and a 50 WRAZD channel in addition to the 5 RD5 and 50 RD50 stations.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get them to show up in the guide?

They went live two nights ago with both channels. Try updating your Favorite 'custom' channels, or set it back to All Channels. I just went into my favorites (Custom 1) and added both channels.

Actually Sinclair, the company that owns both stations, terminated their agreement with the Tube. Only one station in North Carolina still carries it.

Does Fox 8.1 always have a line of static across the top of the screen?

Good call. That worked!

Thanks.