Why does Las Vegas never seem to be a "selected market"?

Because of the proliferation of numbnuts

Yeah, it was pretty cool back when you could see all the open directories in your node :)

That was true file sharing.

And print to other people's printers!! Its why I used IPX/SPX as my file sharing protocol since the CM wouldnt pass it. Until I got a broadband router of course.

Was tonights Jeo and WOF in HD or not? It wasn't at my house. I haven't seen it in HD at my house yet, but at my mom's the other day it was in HD. I'm trying to see if I have a problem with my setup. I do get other shows on KVBC in HD, but not jeopardy yet...

Saw part of WOF, in the begining it said available in HD the program guide said NEW and had the HD symbol on it but it appeared to be SD (had side bars on my TV like last season). I have Cox cable with HD service. Too bad Survivor isn't HD, some of the China shots would be awesome in HD.

Because of the proliferation of numbnuts

Las Vegas: "Give us your credit challenged, stupid, ignorant, greedy, lazy....":D

. Too bad Survivor isn't HD, some of the China shots would be awesome in HD.

The budget on that show is probable HUGE as it is. Adding HD equipment to use on location would probably be very cost prohibitive. But, I agree, I would love to see that show in HD. The scenic shots along with the skimpy dressed hotties...wow!

Las Vegas: "Give us your credit challenged, stupid, ignorant, greedy, lazy....":D

Have to agree with you on that one.

Important DirecTV Update:

A special test of the new HD channels is being conducted right now. It is scheduled to last for 3 hours (10PM-1AM).

9300 National Geographic HD
9301 Discovery HD

Hello, I hope you guys can help me with an issue I am having with NBC HD on Cox Cable chan. 733.

The problem is simple enough... The audio skips every 5-10 seconds! The image is fine. All other channels are fine. It seems only NBC in HD is affected. The non-HD channel (chan 3) does not have this issue at all.

It is extremely annoying to watch the Sunday Night game while the audio skips every few seconds. When it skips, it goes silent for about half a second and resumes... only to do it again. It occurs on all programming on NBC HD.

I'm using the standard Cox equipment cable box. The audio out is an optical out to the receiver. Is this problem with Cox or with me?

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance.

^^ It's a problem with KVBC that's supposed to have been fixed countless times by now. One of these days they'll find the equipment causes the audio hiccups and we'll all rejoice.

is anyone else having a black screen on CW HD. Got a signal of 80-90% through my D* HR20 but a black screen and a brief searching for signal when i tune to it. Says searching for signal about 3-4 seconds, than just black screen. Only on CW, every other channel-1 HD OTA feed is working. anyone else getting anything similar, or is CW HD OTA on DTV working for you guys?

NBC HD on Cox Cable chan. 733.

The problem is simple enough... The audio skips every 5-10 seconds!

I have the same problem, I e-mailed Cox serveral times (about 3 months ago) and get the same response, reset the box, if the problem persists call in for service. I never called for service because from what I read here it is a problem with KVBC. Untill its fixed I just hit settings on the remote twice and set the audio out to OTHER, you then get PCM to your reciever and the dropouts *should* be reduced to just a slight click. No DD but it makes viewing alot better. Just remember to set your audio back to DD after. I had HD for just over a year now and its been like this the entire time. Really wish it would get fixed by tommorow with premiere week.

I read the old threads just now. Thank you all for your input. What a real bummer. I've reset the box and what not with no avail. I've resorted to watching the game without DD which kind of makes the whole ordeal pointless if I cannot enjoy it to the best of my equipment's ability.

Go Dallas and the over! 3-3 at the half looked like an under game :p

"I have the same problem, I e-mailed Cox serveral times (about 3 months ago) and get the same response, reset the box, if the problem persists call in for service. I never called for service because from what I read here it is a problem with KVBC."

you are assuming that if you read it here, it is true. cox told you what to do if resetting the box doesn't cure your problem. you took it upon yourself not to follow cox's instructions, and then you complain. try calling service as instructed before you complain about poor reception or sound quality.
i know this problem can't be throughout the valley, because no one in my neighborhood has a problem with reception.
i love this forum and find many of it's members very helpful, but you're not helping yourself if you don't follow instructions from the source of you problem.

"I have the same problem, I e-mailed Cox serveral times (about 3 months ago) and get the same response, reset the box, if the problem persists call in for service. I never called for service because from what I read here it is a problem with KVBC."

you are assuming that if you read it here, it is true. cox told you what to do if resetting the box doesn't cure your problem. you took it upon yourself not to follow cox's instructions, and then you complain. try calling service as instructed before you complain about poor reception or sound quality.
i know this problem can't be throughout the valley, because no one in my neighborhood has a problem with reception.
i love this forum and find many of it's members very helpful, but you're not helping yourself if you don't follow instructions from the source of you problem.

I assure you the audio problems of KVBC-DT persist throughout the valley. It doesn't matter whether you receive them from OTA, Cox, and DirecTV.

KVBC themselves admit they have the problem.

You may not notice the problem as much as others because you are not decoding the dolby digital audio in a standalone audio receiver or perhaps your receiver is exceptionally good at silencing bad dd audio packets. However, unless you have extraordinary evidence (logs of transport stream captures run through mpeg2repair showing no bad packets), you won't change the minds of every single other Las Vegas member of this forum that hears the intermittent pops in audio on NBC.

/\/\ What GeorgeLV said...
I have two HT setups. With the Pioneer Elite receiver, the NBC DD problem is barely noticeable. The Elite can handle the bad stream data good enough so that when there is an error, it will barely have a blip. Connecting the Yamaha RX-V to the same STB's, the sound dropouts are more frequent and last a lot longer, to the point where the sound is off more than it's on when it gets really bad. Turning off the "Auto" DD mode and forcing DD only on the Yamaha reduced the searching for signal and signal reset quite a bit.

vegggas

Weekend update!
This is 99.9% accurate according to sources for this weeks launch of new channels.

700 - HD Theater
701 - HD PPV
702 - National Geographic HD
703 - History Channel HD
704 - ESPN HD
705 - ESPN2 HD
706 - MOJO
707 - A&E HD
708 - Universal HD
709 - TNT HD
710 - HBO HD
711 - Cinemax HD
720 - Showtime HD
721 - Starz HD
725 - Music (MTV) in HD
730 - CBS HD
731 - PBS HD
732 - ABC HD
733 - NBC HD
735 - Fox HD
750(?) - HD On Demand (virtual number to get into menu could be anywhere)

Schedule launch of the above lineup is this week.
The testing lineup mentioned earlier still has to go through national carriage, and then go through the local franchise agreements for approval. Not sure of the timeline for the next wave of channels, but it looks like it could be at least a few weeks after the upcoming launch. (maybe they are getting their feeds from D* and have to wait for them to launch :rolleyes:

Other notes are that they are removing a few more analog channels during October to reclaim more space. Also final testing of the system bandwidth upgrades that have been in progress for the past two years and scheduled to be complete before the end of the year 2007. They were upgraded with the digital phone upgrades that went around the valley, and it now appears that Digital Phone service is finally available in all sections of the valley.

vegggas

^^ Well based on the public notice requirements I guess that's all we could expect, but it's a bit underwhelming. Hopefully the Discovery suite comes sooner than later since the "good shows" seem to be disappearing from HD Theater very quickly.

Not totally underwhelming. Good channels. But, the one that I like most is the HD On Demand. That will be real nice to have.

For DirecTV subscribers, HD testing has resumed.

9300 National Geographic HD
9301 Discovery HD

Weekend update!
This is 99.9% accurate according to sources for this weeks launch of new channels.

700 - HD Theater
701 - HD PPV
702 - National Geographic HD
703 - History Channel HD
704 - ESPN HD
705 - ESPN2 HD
706 - MOJO
707 - A&E HD
708 - Universal HD
709 - TNT HD
710 - HBO HD
711 - Cinemax HD
720 - Showtime HD
721 - Starz HD
725 - Music (MTV) in HD
730 - CBS HD
731 - PBS HD
732 - ABC HD
733 - NBC HD
735 - Fox HD
750(?) - HD On Demand (virtual number to get into menu could be anywhere)

Schedule launch of the above lineup is this week.
The testing lineup mentioned earlier still has to go through national carriage, and then go through the local franchise agreements for approval. Not sure of the timeline for the next wave of channels, but it looks like it could be at least a few weeks after the upcoming launch. (maybe they are getting their feeds from D* and have to wait for them to launch :rolleyes:

Other notes are that they are removing a few more analog channels during October to reclaim more space. Also final testing of the system bandwidth upgrades that have been in progress for the past two years and scheduled to be complete before the end of the year 2007. They were upgraded with the digital phone upgrades that went around the valley, and it now appears that Digital Phone service is finally available in all sections of the valley.

vegggas

Way to go, Vegggas!
A little in the way of good propaganda techniques.
As I count it their are only 4-5 NEW HD channels. NOT ENOUGH AND ADDED TOO SLOWLY.

is anyone else having a black screen on CW HD. Got a signal of 80-90% through my D* HR20 but a black screen and a brief searching for signal when i tune to it. Says searching for signal about 3-4 seconds, than just black screen. Only on CW, every other channel-1 HD OTA feed is working. anyone else getting anything similar, or is CW HD OTA on DTV working for you guys?


nobody? nothing? just me? help!!

^^ Have you reset your receiver yet?

yes sir. I have reset it, restarted the OTA setup, deleted the entire OTA setup and redid from scratch. everything is the same. Every OTA channel shows signals on the meter from 85-99, and all tune to successfully except 33-1. Just a black screen, even with signal showing to be upper 80s.

Are you able to tune CW 33-1 HD OTA succesfully?

I can get channel 33-1 OTA on my D* H10 receiver. I also can get OTA on an another hdtv with just the internal hd tuner.

thats what i needed to know. thank you very much. DTV tech was out yesterday tweaking my 103b and had to reset the OTA, so i guess this caused it.

But MAN is it weird or what that its pulling a 85-90 signal strength and i get NOTHING! argh. and its the only channel that i watch thats not on the DTV HD locals. time to find a super high ladder and get to repositioning it myself.

thanks! any ideas what might cause a signal but no picture?

thanks! any ideas what might cause a signal but no picture?

Bad PSIP data can confuse some tuners. If your TV has an ATSC tuner, try conneting it directly to the TV.

Also, if you're diplexing your OTA and satellite on the same line, it will no longer work because DirecTV is now broadcasting for their new HD satellite.

"I have the same problem, I e-mailed Cox serveral times (about 3 months ago) and get the same response, reset the box, if the problem persists call in for service. I never called for service because from what I read here it is a problem with KVBC."

you are assuming that if you read it here, it is true. cox told you what to do if resetting the box doesn't cure your problem. you took it upon yourself not to follow cox's instructions, and then you complain. try calling service as instructed before you complain about poor reception or sound quality.
i know this problem can't be throughout the valley, because no one in my neighborhood has a problem with reception.
i love this forum and find many of it's members very helpful, but you're not helping yourself if you don't follow instructions from the source of you problem.



Uh, excuse me but I'm having the exact same problem too (detailed a few pages back). I get the same audio drop-outs on NBC via Dolby Digital and it is ANNOYING AS ALL HECK! I've reset the box and it has absolutely no effect whatsoever. It's a source issue.

Switching the cablebox's sound output to "Other" is a work-around, though you lose surround, dynamic range, and basically get plain old mono. Not how I want to watch HEROES!

Bad PSIP data can confuse some tuners. If your TV has an ATSC tuner, try conneting it directly to the TV.

Also, if you're diplexing your OTA and satellite on the same line, it will no longer work because DirecTV is now broadcasting for their new HD satellite.

Ill see if i have ATSC built in and test that. line is not diplexed, its a direct coax run from roof antenna. Ill also try to run another test line to a second HR20 i have, and see if it shows up there.

George, are you getting 33-1 on your HR20 box (running 19e too i imagine)?

Ill see if i have ATSC built in and test that. line is not diplexed, its a direct coax run from roof antenna. Ill also try to run another test line to a second HR20 i have, and see if it shows up there.

George, are you getting 33-1 on your HR20 box (running 19e too i imagine)?

Sorry, my HR20 is in Pahrump (no OTA to test it with).

DirecTV HD testing update, 9300 is now A&E HD.

9300 A&E HD
9301 Discovery HD

ok i ran a complete new line from my OTA input in the AV closet to another TV, direct to its rear input with ATSC tuner. Same exact issue. I get every single channel and sub channel except 33-1, including 33 SD. what in the world could cause this?

is anyone else having a black screen on CW HD. Got a signal of 80-90% through my D* HR20 but a black screen and a brief searching for signal when i tune to it. Says searching for signal about 3-4 seconds, than just black screen. Only on CW, every other channel-1 HD OTA feed is working. anyone else getting anything similar, or is CW HD OTA on DTV working for you guys?

I'm not getting it either. Black screen/hr20-100/ox18a.

hmmm, so it isnt just me. you getting a signal though right? did it stop some time in the last few days? i dont watch it much so im unsure of exactly when.

I assure you the audio problems of KVBC-DT persist throughout the valley. It doesn't matter whether you receive them from OTA, Cox, and DirecTV.

KVBC themselves admit they have the problem.




you are assuming that if you read it here, it is true. cox told you what to do if resetting the box doesn't cure your problem. you took it upon yourself not to follow cox's instructions, and then you complain. try calling service as instructed before you complain about poor reception or sound quality.
i know this problem can't be throughout the valley, because no one in my neighborhood has a problem with reception.
i love this forum and find many of it's members very helpful, but you're not helping yourself if you don't follow instructions from the source of you problem.

I had service scheduled and cancelled the call after reading several pages on this site. GeorgeLV and Vegggas you seem to be very knowledgable, alot more than me about everything here, I would like to thank you for such incredible input and sharing, keep it coming. I will trust people with 4 years and over 2000 posts on a board such as this one. I may be new to the board but have been browsing here on and off for about 6 months.

I also read the Cox boards over on Usenet, and alot of people there complain about Cox everything. I really like and enjoy the service I get from Cox. We really have not had any problems with our tv service or internet service in over 5 years.

I really like and enjoy the service I get from Cox. We really have not had any problems with our tv service or internet service in over 5 years.

You must be VERY EASILY satisfied.

My main complaint with Cox is that they DO NOT seem to be the consumers advocate. If indeed there are so many transmission problems whose sources are the stations themselves, then I believe it's COXs DUTY to hammer away at those stations in order to get them to fix the problems. Certainly Cox would/could have more clout with the stations than any single viewer. Or for that matter, multiple viewers. But they simply don't care. They say, they re-transmit exactly what they receive from the station. I believe that. But if they are receiving less than perfect transmissions, they ought to scream loud and long about it. But they don't . So we can all go to hell.

I'm not getting any audio on the NBC HD channels either. I'm on Cox analog service (no Cox-issued tuner box). The other HD channels are fine. The audio is being passed through the TV only (no amplifier/stereo/receiver). No audio. Works with my roommate's HDTV though. It's probably a quality issue. His TV is probably less picky about the audio signal than mine is.

hmmm, so it isnt just me. you getting a signal though right? did it stop some time in the last few days? i dont watch it much so im unsure of exactly when.

Signal strength is 85% I have no idea why there is no picture.

Signal strength is 85% I have no idea why there is no picture.


can anyone else confirm that they are not getting picture on 33-1 CW HD OTA? Frustrating with smallville coming up soon. i am thinking of getting up to the roof and messing with the antennae, but its difficult to reach and dont want to do that if there are technical difficulties with their HD OTA signal.

i get the guide and everything.

CW Las Vegas is part of the Sinclair Broadcast Group. You can email them here.

http://www.sbgi.net/contact/contact.shtml

can anyone else confirm that they are not getting picture on 33-1 CW HD OTA? Frustrating with smallville coming up soon. i am thinking of getting up to the roof and messing with the antennae, but its difficult to reach and dont want to do that if there are technical difficulties with their HD OTA signal.

i get the guide and everything.

Killi.... I had this problem last October..you may want to look back on some previous posts here in regards to the problem. I never did find a solution, but the problem eventually went away.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8714639#post8714639

I emailed ch 33 last night and this is their response:

Thank you for your interest in our digital channel 33.1. Our signal has
been at full power and we haven't made any changes for several months. I
am not sure why you are not receiving us all of the sudden. If you
haven't tried it yet, you might to do a new channel search. Some
receivers have been known to go a little "dumb" sometimes with the
digital info.

Please let me know, if you are unable to resolve this, or if you need
any further assistance.
--


Mike Brown
Dir. of Eng. and Ops
KVMY/KVCW Las Vegas
(702) 987-1038 Direct
(702) 610-2108 Cell


I did reset the OTA and did another search. Still nothing.

i emailed as well, though i am unable to check a response until i get home. thanks for sharing their response. i am going to try an dmess with the antenna then. i would think it was a receiver issue, until i tried it directly to my atsc tuner on my TV, and got the same result.

i am in anthem area, are you in a similar area?

also, talked to Mike, he said he will check out/reset a PSUB? and see if that clears things up. i am not home to check, but if he contacts me, my wife is and she can tune in, if you are not near a setup VegasFlyby.

Hopefully it will get fixed soon. I was looking forward to Reaper in HD. I posted at DBStalk as well and so far another person in Vegas says they can't get it either. I'll be home most of the day today so I'll try to check it once in a while.

I'm way up north...Camino Al Norte/Ann Rd area.

ok, just got a call back from Mike, he reset the psub generator, i called home and my wife says its working. working for you guys?

It's back up. Good thing we emailed the engineer.

yeah, good work everybody. we can now resume normal activity.

Now if we Cox customers can find an NBC engineer to e-mail, we might be able to fix the Dolby 5.1 drop-out problem.

Now if we Cox customers can find an NBC engineer to e-mail, we might be able to fix the Dolby 5.1 drop-out problem.


Good news...

I contacted the manager of the Vegas NBC affiliate regarding the Dolby Digital audio problem. I'm happy to say I got a very prompt and helpful reply, saying the necessary equipment to fix this problem will arrive tomorrow at the station (Sept. 26) and once their chief engineer installs it, the issue should be resolved. Fingers crossed.

Good news...

I contacted the manager of the Vegas NBC affiliate regarding the Dolby Digital audio problem. I'm happy to say I got a very prompt and helpful reply, saying the necessary equipment to fix this problem will arrive tomorrow at the station (Sept. 26) and once their chief engineer installs it, the issue should be resolved. Fingers crossed.

We can only hope. I got that same answer a few weeks ago. The fix date they told me has passed.

More new channel additions announced:

"We are happy to announce that will be adding several channels to our Paquete Latino and International Premium Services lineups by November 1st, 2007. These channels will offer more quality programming to Spanish-speaking and Filipino homes. With channels like VeneMovies, GolTV and GMA Pinoy, there is something for everyone. For more information, call Cox at 939-8110."

I don't know if I would claim there is something for everyone when you announcing foreign language channels only. I know quite a few people in the valley that only speak one language (English) so these channels are useless to them.

why stop there...why not add russian, french, italian channels too ....seems there is unlimited bandwidth for non english channels.

Because there aren't enough Russian, French, and Italian speaking people here. Now there is an ever growing population of Spanish speaking people here.

These are the type of channels that belong on SDV. That reminds me. I need to go map out all the foreign language channels on my moms TiVo.

looks like D* has launched their initial new MPEG4 HD Channels. Anyone here want to report on quantity / quality?

Las Vegas HD Channel Guide September 26 DirecTV Launch Edition

Broadcast Networks OTA Cox DirecTV Dish CMA (Pahrump)
------------------ ----- ----- --------- ------ -------------
ABC (KTNV) 13-1 732 13
CBS (KLAS) 8-1 730 8
Fox (KVVU) 5-1 735 5
NBC (KVBC) 3-1 733 3
PBS (KLVX) 10-1 731
CW (KVCW) 33-1
MyTV (KVMY) 21-1

Cable Networks [launching September 28]
------------------
A&E [707] 265 9419
Animal Planet 282 9489
Big Ten Network 220 9500
CNN 202
Discovery 278 9487
ESPN 704 206 9424 550
ESPN2 705 209 9425
Food Network HD 9462
Golf/Versus HD 604 9468
HGTV HD 9461
History [703] 269 9491
National Geographic [702] 9429 570
NFL Network HD 212 9464
Science Channel 284 9490
TBS 247
TLC 280 9488
TNT 709 245 9420 565
Weather Channel 362

HD Only Networks
------------------
HD Theater 700 76 9421 555
HDNet 79 9422
HDNet Movies 78 9423
MHD 725 9492
Mojo 706
Smithsonian 267
Universal HD 708 74 9427 560

RSNs
------------------
FSN West 367
FSN Prime Ticket 361
FSN Arizona 365

Sports Subscriptions
------------------
MLB Extra Innings HD no yes no
NBA League Pass HD ??? yes yes
NHL Center Ice HD ??? yes yes
NFL Sunday Ticket HD no yes no

Premium Networks
------------------
HBO East 501 9456
HBO West 710 510
Cinemax East 9458
Cinemax West 711 530
The Movie Channel 544
Showtime East 537 9460
Showtime West 720 540 520
Sho Too 538
Starz East 520 9435
Starz West 721 521
Starz Comedy 519
Starz Edge 522
Starz Kids & Family 518

Voom Networks
------------------
Animania HD 9474
Equator HD 9471
Family Room HD 9486
Film Fest HD 9480
Gallery HD 9472
GamePlay HD 9485
HDNews 9482
Kung Fu HD 9479
Monsters HD 9481
Rave HD 9470
Rush HD 9476
Treasure HD 9477
Ultra HD 9478
World Cinema HD 9475
WorldSport HD 9473

looks like D* has launched their initial new MPEG4 HD Channels. Anyone here want to report on quantity / quality?

DirecTV is the HD Leader. They have the most content and the quality is finally there.

More new channel additions announced:

"We are happy to announce that will be adding several channels to our Paquete Latino and International Premium Services lineups by November 1st, 2007. These channels will offer more quality programming to Spanish-speaking and Filipino homes. With channels like VeneMovies, GolTV and GMA Pinoy, there is something for everyone. For more information, call Cox at 939-8110."


How bout channel pibe (5)?:D

DirecTV is the HD Leader. They have the most content and the quality is finally there.

What world are you living in George? Please count again.
Its not even the 28th yet and still Erect Tv not to mention Vegass' Cox will be catching up with Dish on quantity and quality.

Because there aren't enough Russian, French, and Italian speaking people here. Now there is an ever growing population of Spanish speaking people here.

These are the type of channels that belong on SDV. That reminds me. I need to go map out all the foreign language channels on my moms TiVo.

Car accident lawsuits, planned home foreclosures, spam and corned beef sales, and the weather guy @ channel 8 with marbles in his mouth.

The philipinnos are taking over Vegas! :D

It all depends on what you like to watch. You can't base who's the best with the number of channels. One of the providers could add 300 channels that are nothing but a loop of a 30 second commercial and claim they are the best with HD.

I get my new HD equipment from D* on Sunday so I'll see for myself soon. If you are an avid baseball fan you need D* to see the playoffs in HD since they are the only one of the three that has TBS HD.

I don't know if I would claim there is something for everyone when you announcing foreign language channels only. I know quite a few people in the valley that only speak one language (English) so these channels are useless to them.

There are many here in Vegas that refuse to make english their language and force us to accomidate them. I say throw em out along with their wasting of our bandwidth.

On the other hand, I do like some of the spanish shows but not for the language if you know what I mean.

What world are you living in George? Please count again.
Its not even the 28th yet and still Erect Tv not to mention Vegass' Cox will be catching up with Dish on quantity and quality.

Sorry foghorn, but it's not even a debatable topic that Dish is the HD-Lite leader. 1440x1080i @ 6-8 Mbps VBR can't compare to the quality Cox and DirecTV offer.

If you want to count channels, I suggest you take a look at the October issue of the DirecTV access magazine.

On the other hand, I do like some of the spanish shows but not for the language if you know what I mean.


how bout CMT in HD so we can clearly see those Dallas Cheerleaders in ALL their glory struttin their "stuff" :D

CMT is on the way to D*.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3280008

Las Vegas HD Channel Guide September 26 DirecTV Launch Edition

Broadcast Networks OTA Cox DirecTV Dish CMA (Pahrump)
------------------ ----- ----- --------- ------ -------------
RSNs
------------------
FSN West 367
FSN Prime Ticket 361
FSN Arizona 365

Sports Subscriptions
------------------
MLB Extra Innings HD no yes no
NBA League Pass HD ??? yes yes
NHL Center Ice HD ??? yes yes
NFL Sunday Ticket HD no yes no

Premium Networks
------------------
HBO East 501 9456
HBO West 710 510
Cinemax East 9458
Cinemax West 711 530
The Movie Channel 544
Showtime East 537 9460
Showtime West 720 540 520
Sho Too 538
Starz East 520 9435
Starz West 721 521
Starz Comedy 519
Starz Edge 522
Starz Kids & Family 518

Voom Networks
------------------
Animania HD 9474
Equator HD 9471
Family Room HD 9486
Film Fest HD 9480
Gallery HD 9472
GamePlay HD 9485
HDNews 9482
Kung Fu HD 9479
Monsters HD 9481
Rave HD 9470
Rush HD 9476
Treasure HD 9477
Ultra HD 9478
World Cinema HD 9475
WorldSport HD 9473

Did you mean for the RSNs to be listed under Direct or Dish? I just noticed the channel numbers didn't seem to match Dish's format but possibly Direct's.

Also, does anyone on this forum subscribe to DirectTV's version of MLB Extra Innings package? If so, how many games are in HD on a given day and how consistent is the carriage of those games? For example, are you able to catch Bay Area/LA or San Diego games in HD on a consistent basis? I'm getting mixed messages regarding Cubs games in HD. Knowing how extensive HD viewing is for the baseball fan will help me decide by next spring whether to ditch Cox or not. Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided.

Did you mean for the RSNs to be listed under Direct or Dish? I just noticed the channel numbers didn't seem to match Dish's format but possibly Direct's.

Also, does anyone on this forum subscribe to DirectTV's version of MLB Extra Innings package? If so, how many games are in HD on a given day and how consistent is the carriage of those games? For example, are you able to catch Bay Area/LA or San Diego games in HD on a consistent basis? I'm getting mixed messages regarding Cubs games in HD. Knowing how extensive HD viewing is for the baseball fan will help me decide by next spring whether to ditch Cox or not. Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided.

Those are the Dish channel numbers. I didn't list DirecTV yet because the permanent HD channels aren't available yet. According to the DirecTV Access magazine FSN West (652) and Prime Ticket (653) will be added in October. Note that DirecTV carries many FSN West, Prime Ticket, FSN Bay Area, and FSN Arizona games part-times channels 94 and 95.

As far as MLB Extra Innings goes, there were about 15 HD games a week this year, next year all games produced on HD RSNs available to DirecTV should be available.

Extra Innings is really confusing in Las Vegas because it's the home market of so many teams.

Games involving the Angels, Dodgers, Giants, A's, D'backs, and Padres are not a part of Extra Innings in Las Vegas you much watch them on the local RSN.

Angels - FSN West - available on Cox, DirecTV, and Dish
Dodgers - Prime Ticket - available on Cox, DirecTV, and Dish
Giants - FSN Bay Area - available only on DirecTV
A's - FSN Bay Area - available only on DirecTV
D'backs - FSN Arizona - available on DirecTV and Dish
Padres - Channel 4SD - available only on Cox

BTW, if you're thinking of switching, you might want to do it soon as DirecTV is the only local provider with TBS HD for the playoffs

Until Direct Tvs new satellites actually go on libe, the number of MLB-EI games in HD is very limited. But once they have those new satdllites up and running, they promise that ALL MLB-EI games that are broadcast in HD will be CARRIED in HD by Direct TV. Obviously if the game is NOT transmitted to Direct TV in HD, they can't do anything about it.

Sorry foghorn, but it's not even a debatable topic that Dish is the HD-Lite leader. 1440x1080i @ 6-8 Mbps VBR can't compare to the quality Cox and DirecTV offer.

If you want to count channels, I suggest you take a look at the October issue of the DirecTV access magazine.

Don't be so quick. As of right now, no one has actually measured the numbers from Erectv. Scott from satguys says it looks terrific and will post soon after an side by side comparison. One user has already stated Dish still looks better.

In the end the numbers won't matter, actual preceived PQ on a majority of HD sets will.

how bout CMT in HD so we can clearly see those Dallas Cheerleaders in ALL their glory struttin their "stuff" :D

That is one thing missing in HD. Where is the thong and cleavage HD channel?

Wait, another one......Milfs HD?

That is one thing missing in HD. Where is the thong and cleavage HD channel?

Wait, another one......Milfs HD?

That's what HD-DVD is for.

Those are the Dish channel numbers. I didn't list DirecTV yet because the permanent HD channels aren't available yet. According to the DirecTV Access magazine FSN West (652) and Prime Ticket (653) will be added in October. Note that DirecTV carries many FSN West, Prime Ticket, FSN Bay Area, and FSN Arizona games part-times channels 94 and 95.

As far as MLB Extra Innings goes, there were about 15 HD games a week this year, next year all games produced on HD RSNs available to DirecTV should be available.

Extra Innings is really confusing in Las Vegas because it's the home market of so many teams.

Games involving the Angels, Dodgers, Giants, A's, D'backs, and Padres are not a part of Extra Innings in Las Vegas you much watch them on the local RSN.

Angels - FSN West - available on Cox, DirecTV, and Dish
Dodgers - Prime Ticket - available on Cox, DirecTV, and Dish
Giants - FSN Bay Area - available only on DirecTV
A's - FSN Bay Area - available only on DirecTV
D'backs - FSN Arizona - available on DirecTV and Dish
Padres - Channel 4SD - available only on Cox

BTW, if you're thinking of switching, you might want to do it soon as DirecTV is the only local provider with TBS HD for the playoffs

Thanks for the info, George. If what WordMaestro says is true, it looks like DirecTV is going to be the way to go. A shame that the Padres are locked up by Cox. But if Bud Selig ever (lol) makes good on his promise to straighten out the ridiculous blackout scenarios, maybe the Padres will be available. We'll have to wait and see on that one, I'm sure.

Weekend update!
This is 99.9% accurate according to sources for this weeks launch of new channels.

700 - HD Theater
701 - HD PPV
702 - National Geographic HD
703 - History Channel HD
704 - ESPN HD
705 - ESPN2 HD
706 - MOJO
707 - A&E HD
708 - Universal HD
709 - TNT HD
710 - HBO HD
711 - Cinemax HD
720 - Showtime HD
721 - Starz HD
725 - Music (MTV) in HD
730 - CBS HD
731 - PBS HD
732 - ABC HD
733 - NBC HD
735 - Fox HD
750(?) - HD On Demand (virtual number to get into menu could be anywhere)
vegggas
The lineup above is now on the system with live channels and content, except that the HD-On Demand menu is currently on channel 740 and is a seperate menu system from channel 1 or other channel links. Since there is no official word on launch of HD Movies on demand, it may get incorporated into the current channel 1 structure before release.

vegggas

Congrats to D* subscribers who have been waiting for several years for more HD content. The lineup is looking to be very good with great PQ and no sign of HD-lite type of degradation on new channels. It took them a while, but it's finally here. From what I've seen, there seems to be little or no complaints about the delivery of the HD signals. Content from the broadcaster, on the other hand, still needs to be tweaked and we will see the same lack of content on E* and Cox delivered feeds of the same channels. Ghosting of images on an SD to HD upconvert on A&EHD is about the worst thing I've seen, but that will pass as more content is available in HD.

Anyway, Kudos all around.

vegggas

I think HD viewing has hit a new low.
I'm looking at the HistoryChannelHD right now. It's about fertilizer and shows the ENTIRE waste sanitation process from start to finish. Good thing the smell is not real.

vegggas

The lineup above is now on the system with live channels and content, except that the HD-On Demand menu is currently on channel 740 and is a seperate menu system from channel 1 or other channel links. Since there is no official word on launch of HD Movies on demand, it may get incorporated into the current channel 1 structure before release.

vegggas

Where's CW HD? Cox and Sinclair announced the retransmission agreement for Vegas on June 5!

It's probably available in the next round since it's listed in the other test lineup in the 800's, but it's still a dark signal there too. Maybe they have to lay fiber between the studio and Cox to get the signal?
BTW, that was a corporate agreement between Cox corporate and Sinclair corporate entities elsewhere that took the local station and cable system by suprise.

vegggas.

Sorry foghorn, but it's not even a debatable topic that Dish is the HD-Lite leader. 1440x1080i @ 6-8 Mbps VBR can't compare to the quality Cox and DirecTV offer.

If you want to count channels, I suggest you take a look at the October issue of the DirecTV access magazine.

Dish PQ is being cited for still being superior so far:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1049886-post82.html

The lineup above is now on the system with live channels and content, except that the HD-On Demand menu is currently on channel 740 and is a seperate menu system from channel 1 or other channel links. Since there is no official word on launch of HD Movies on demand, it may get incorporated into the current channel 1 structure before release.

vegggas

Vegggas ..are you getting these new channels because your a "tester"? I do not see them at all on my Cox HD line up or channel guide or anything to suggest they are even coming other than the newspaper announcement a month ago.

You will see them in the morning (9/28 according to the paper). I have access to a box that can see the test lineup numbers and channels (changes are frequent) and many other channel designations. Just like the D* test lineups a few weeks ago, some engineering boxes can see these lineups, although usually they are just numbers with black screens unless they are testing in the specific node where it's located.
The channels go live with actual feeds a few days before launch to select boxes for final testing, which is what's going on now.

vegggas

Can some of you that have Directv please share your signal strengths for 103b. I'm getting between 70-80 on all transponders. I get in the mid 90s on all the other satellites. Is this ok or should I be realigning?

Well I don't get my new dish until Sunday, but if you don't have any breakups on the new channels your fine. The new stations will drop out sooner though on that 1 or 2 days a year we get those dense clouds.

Can some of you that have Directv please share your signal strengths for 103b. I'm getting between 70-80 on all transponders. I get in the mid 90s on all the other satellites. Is this ok or should I be realigning?

It wouldn't hurt, but you'll have to be a little creative with the CSR to get an appointment scheduled since it's not that bad.

Is it something I could do myself?

Several weeks ago I had the new 5LNB Dish and HR20-750 installed on the downstairs HDTV. Everything seems to work fine.

I hardly ever watch Local Channels in the bedroom, but today I noticed that all I get on the screen when I go to local stations is the Direct TV Logo and the background music. I do not have an HDTV in the bedroom and the receiver is an R10. Do I have to do some kind of Setup to receive these channels since the upgrade or am I out of luck other than OTA?

Well the new Cox HD channels are coming through loud and clear. Although, there doesn't seem to be a lot of HD content on them. The few shows that are in HD are repeated several times throughout the day to fill up space , i suppose. No HD on demand on 740 yet.

Is it something I could do myself?
I wouldn't. It's a lot harder to point the dish at 5 sats at the same time without one of those meters the installers have.

Several weeks ago I had the new 5LNB Dish and HR20-750 installed on the downstairs HDTV. Everything seems to work fine.

I hardly ever watch Local Channels in the bedroom, but today I noticed that all I get on the screen when I go to local stations is the Direct TV Logo and the background music. I do not have an HDTV in the bedroom and the receiver is an R10. Do I have to do some kind of Setup to receive these channels since the upgrade or am I out of luck other than OTA?

Reset your R10. If that fails, call DirecTV and ask to to reauthorize your receivers.

Can some of you that have Directv please share your signal strengths for 103b. I'm getting between 70-80 on all transponders. I get in the mid 90s on all the other satellites. Is this ok or should I be realigning?

No. I just had my dish professionally realigned today from 50-60's. For some reason solid 80's is the highest you can expect to get in the Southern California/Nevada area. It shouldn't be an issue except on those every few years "100 year" flood rains.

same for me. had my dish realigned and went from 35-60 to 68-85. picture has been solid with no pixelation, so far. heavy rain would likely cause some black screen though.

Great. Then I think I'll just let it be. 70s-80s for 103b doesn't sound too bad then.

Well the new Cox HD channels are coming through loud and clear. Although, there doesn't seem to be a lot of HD content on them. The few shows that are in HD are repeated several times throughout the day to fill up space , i suppose. No HD on demand on 740 yet.


Really? You're seeing Nat Geo HD, A&E HD, and History HD?

Because I don't. The channels are now present in the line-up, I see the info bar w/ logo on the bottom, but otherwise I just get a black screen for each.

On the other hand, for some strange reason I'm suddenly getting HBO-HD and Showtime-HD (??) just fine. Didn't order it though.

Really? You're seeing Nat Geo HD, A&E HD, and History HD?

Because I don't. The channels are now present in the line-up, I see the info bar w/ logo on the bottom, but otherwise I just get a black screen for each.

On the other hand, for some strange reason I'm suddenly getting HBO-HD and Showtime-HD (??) just fine. Didn't order it though.

Another in the long line of mysterious occurences featured by Cox Cable. In short, they don't know what the hell they're doing.

Another in the long line of mysterious occurences featured by Cox Cable. In short, they don't know what the hell they're doing.

Hmm if your not happy with cox change to sat :)

The lineup above is now on the system with live channels and content, except that the HD-On Demand menu is currently on channel 740 and is a seperate menu system from channel 1 or other channel links. Since there is no official word on launch of HD Movies on demand, it may get incorporated into the current channel 1 structure before release.

vegggas

Where is HD on demand? when will we get it. Got all the new channels yawn watched dog fighting several times now. But when will we get the real on-demand HD? :confused:

Thanks :)

Seems KVBC fixed the 5.1 sound issues. I had perfect sound watching the Las Vegas premiere tonight.

Thanks George, that did the trick. Appreciate it.

Hmm if your not happy with cox change to sat :)

...this guy's only happy...when he isn't happy :D

please can you tell me has anybody got HD in demand e.g starz movies etc. and if so which channel? i have got the history channel etc in hd and we have basic indemand but no hd

thanks

please can you tell me has anybody got HD in demand e.g starz movies etc. and if so which channel? i have got the history channel etc in hd and we have basic indemand but no hd

thanks

I assume you're talking about Cox and therefore I can't help you.

On the off chance you have DirecTV on Demand beta: HD on demand is working just fine for me. There's not many programs available in HD right now. No movies in HD on Starz on Demand yet.

no cox sorry :)

please can you tell me has anybody got HD in demand e.g starz movies etc. and if so which channel? i have got the history channel etc in hd and we have basic indemand but no hd

thanks

I don't think HD on Demand is available yet on Cox.

Wow, TBS HD is no longer the most worthless HD channel on DirecTV. Braves @ Astros are in true 720p HD, things are looking good for the playoffs. Cox better make a deal soon or Word Maestro might finally switch. ;)

I don't think HD on Demand is available yet on Cox.

when will HD on demand to be available to the rest of us

Wow, TBS HD is no longer the most worthless HD channel on DirecTV. Braves @ Astros are in true 720p HD, things are looking good for the playoffs. Cox better make a deal soon or Word Maestro might finally switch. ;)


Well since I'm a Mets fan,in light of what happened today (and all through the month of Sept) I'm not in much of a hurry.

Well since I'm a Mets fan,in light of what happened today (and all through the month of Sept) I'm not in much of a hurry.

Statistically it's only the second worst collapse in MLB history.

Well since I'm a Mets fan,in light of what happened today (and all through the month of Sept) I'm not in much of a hurry.
Wow, we actually have something in common. The Mets meltdown is a disgrace!

Statistically it's only the second worst collapse in MLB history.

It's the worst if you're a Mets fan. And to add insult to injury, the Phillies will probably get dumped in the first round.

Well with all the baseball talk it's worth noting that Cox and Dish now have less than 24hrs to add TBS HD in time for the playoffs. Padres @ Rockies 1-game playoff for the wildcard tomorrow at 4:37PM.

To all Cox subs, I would not too excited about TBS HD. Since D* put it online last week, everything I have seen on it has been SD upconvert. Even today they had Shreck on, (which I've seen a few times on ABC in superb HD), and it looked like crap today.

Well since I'm a Mets fan,in light of what happened today (and all through the month of Sept) I'm not in much of a hurry.


Ah...now a Mets fan can get the idea of what a Cub fan felt in 1969. At least the Mets coaches will have a little extra time to instruct young outfielders (umm...perhaps someone named Milledge) how to get a ball back to the infield quick enough to prevent the opposing team's pitcher from stretching a double into a triple in what was only the most important game of the season. Pathetic. Mets deserved what they got today. Hope Glavine is back next year. Hate to see him go out like that.

vegggas, I've been keeping an eye on this thread for about a year, but I've never seen any mention of a source for Cox HD info (it is entirely possible that I missed it, too).

Do you by any chance have a link to any up-to-date websites that discuss the future of Cox HD in Las Vegas?

I love my HD, but it was SO frustrating to watch my Buffs beat OU this weekend on Fox Sports in standard def when I know it was available on Fox Sports HD (but Cox doesn't broadcast FSN HD). Do you know if they have any future plans for FSN HD? At least I was able to watch the highlights on Sports Center in HD.

-Scott

Your best bet is to switch to D*. Cox will be lucky to add 1 HD channel for every 10 D* does. They just wont have the capacity until they fully go to SDV, and that is only being rolled out market to market basis . If history holds form, the Las Vegas market probably will be one of the last to convert.

I love my HD, but it was SO frustrating to watch my Buffs beat OU this weekend on Fox Sports in standard def when I know it was available on Fox Sports HD (but Cox doesn't broadcast FSN HD). Do you know if they have any future plans for FSN HD? At least I was able to watch the highlights on Sports Center in HD.

-Scott

I think Cox attempted to show it last season on Channel 707 (INHD2 at the time) All I saw was a black screen with sound. That lasted all of 2 weeks and they never tried it again.

I love my HD, but it was SO frustrating to watch my Buffs beat OU this weekend on Fox Sports in standard def when I know it was available on Fox Sports HD (but Cox doesn't broadcast FSN HD). Do you know if they have any future plans for FSN HD? At least I was able to watch the highlights on Sports Center in HD.

-Scott

It was a disappontment that Cox did not show one single Dodgers, Angels or Padres game in HD this year; other than nationally televised games on FOX-5 or ESPN-HD of course.

I am hopeful that Cox's promised commitment of more HD by the end of the year will hold true. Maybe they can also find room for FSN Arizona and FSN Bay Area since a change in MLB's blackout rules looks impossible.

The NL Wildcard playoff looks great on TBS HD on DirecTV.

Cox has also completed national negotiations for TBS HD... Of course, by recent history that means we should expect it to hit the Las Vegas lineup about 6 months after every other Cox system in the country has it.

The NL Wildcard playoff looks great on TBS HD on DirecTV.

Cox has also completed national negotiations for TBS HD... Of course, by recent history that means we should expect it to hit the Las Vegas lineup about 6 months after every other Cox system in the country has it.
I'm sure Vegggas wil have absolutely NOTHING to say about that.

To all Cox subs, I would not too excited about TBS HD. Since D* put it online last week, everything I have seen on it has been SD upconvert. Even today they had Shreck on, (which I've seen a few times on ABC in superb HD), and it looked like crap today.

Hey EXPERT,
Are you watching the telecast of the NL Wildcard tiebreaker? Who gives a crap about "Shreck". It's SPORTS that require true HD. And TBS is providing it.

It was a disappontment that Cox did not show one single Dodgers, Angels or Padres game in HD this year; other than nationally televised games on FOX-5 or ESPN-HD of course.



You didn't even get the ESPN games either, via COX, due to blackout restrictions. That is unless it was a Sunday night game. All others were blacked out.

The NL Wildcard playoff looks great on TBS HD on DirecTV.

Cox has also completed national negotiations for TBS HD... Of course, by recent history that means we should expect it to hit the Las Vegas lineup about 6 months after every other Cox system in the country has it.

TBS-HD has reportedly popped up on several cable systems throughout the U.S. over the past few days. Cox was not one of the systems mentioned, though. I'd say there is pretty much no hope that I'll turn up any time soon.

As I mentioned before, I don't have a specific time for TBS being shown in Las Vegas, but my sources have said that we should see the first pitch of the post season in HD.
The post season is scheduled to start at noon Oct 3 on TBS and I feel confident we will see it.

vegggas

vegggas, I've been keeping an eye on this thread for about a year, but I've never seen any mention of a source for Cox HD info (it is entirely possible that I missed it, too).

Do you by any chance have a link to any up-to-date websites that discuss the future of Cox HD in Las Vegas?

I love my HD, but it was SO frustrating to watch my Buffs beat OU this weekend on Fox Sports in standard def when I know it was available on Fox Sports HD (but Cox doesn't broadcast FSN HD). Do you know if they have any future plans for FSN HD? At least I was able to watch the highlights on Sports Center in HD.

-Scott
Not sure what you are looking for, but the Cox corporate president has put up the challenge for 50 HD channels before the end of 2007. Typically, Cox does not make any public announcements about content and carriage deals. Information is gleaned from other press releases, general industry knowledge and the sharing of lots of frosty beverages with people in the know and a few winks here and there and reading between the lines ;). The problem is that a well laid plan can change at a moments notice for technical or political reasons beyond local control.

vegggas
edit - There is also an AVS thread about HD on Cox that summarizes HD availability http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6602443#post6602443

TBS-HD has reportedly popped up on several cable systems throughout the U.S. over the past few days. Cox was not one of the systems mentioned, though. I'd say there is pretty much no hope that I'll turn up any time soon.

I assure you that Cox has signed on with TBS. It's already on channel 733 in San Diego.

http://cox.com/sandiego/digitalcable/hdtv/programming.asp?sc_cid=sd_int_homepage_whatsnew

I assure you that Cox has signed on with TBS. It's already on channel 733 in San Diego.

http://cox.com/sandiego/digitalcable/hdtv/programming.asp?sc_cid=sd_int_homepage_whatsnew

And several other markets in the last 24 hours and channel 726 here... ;););)

vegggas

Really? Are you saying it's here? I'm at work and will have to go home to check it out, but that would be great!

726 is not active as of this post, but vegggas usually gets the new channels at least a day in advance of most of us.

726 is not active as of this post, but vegggas usually gets the new channels at least a day in advance of most of us.


Who the hell is he? Royalty? Don't we all pay the same rates? If so, we should get the same service, at the same time. Although. maybe Vegggas gets a discount for the "campaign" he stages for Cox at almost every turn. And the three "winking" smilies that followed his message make me wonder about its validity.

Who the hell is he? Royalty? Don't we all pay the same rates? If so, we should get the same service, at the same time. Although. maybe Vegggas gets a discount for the "campaign" he stages for Cox at almost every turn. And the three "winking" smilies that followed his message make me wonder about its validity.

Yea its Sir Vegggas...

Who the hell is he? Royalty? Don't we all pay the same rates? If so, we should get the same service, at the same time. Although. maybe Vegggas gets a discount for the "campaign" he stages for Cox at almost every turn. And the three "winking" smilies that followed his message make me wonder about its validity.

From what I've read here, I gather that vegggas works in the industry contracting custom commercial hdtv installs. It is perfectly reasonable that Cox would give him access to certain engineering tier features that a regular customer would not receive.

I had sent a question to Cox's customer service yesterday evening and I just received the email that confirms TBS-HD:

Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to
providing the best customer service possible.

We have exciting news! We are proud to announce the launching of TBS HD
channel 726 today.

We have sent a signal to your Digital receiver, which will cause it to
reload.

The time will disappear from the front of the box while this process
transpires. When the time reappears, please turn on your TV and the
digital receiver and the problem should be corrected.

If this does not resolve the problem you are having, contact Cox
Technical Support at 702.383.4000.

If you have any further questions, contact Cox Communications at http://www.cox.com/support/lasvegas/contactsup/.
All emails are responded to within 24 hours.

Thank you,

Cox Communications
Las Vegas E-Support Team

Can someone please confirm this for COX?!

I have received emails from COX in the past regarding A&E, NGeo, and Hist HD and received the channels on the stated date, however I have not received any info on TBS HD. I am stuck at work and am like a little kid on Christmas with anticipation!

Thanks!

And several other markets in the last 24 hours and channel 726 here... ;););)

vegggas

thanks vegggas how about hd on demand on cox?? thanks

please can anybody tell me about cox hd on demand in vegas

thanks:)

Yea its Sir Vegggas...

All you guys bashing Vegggas need to chill. The guy is nice enough to post alot of timely info on Cox as well as other technical info and he always does it in a nice way...and he catches grief because you guys get caught up in a sat. vs cable "war". Word maestro... grow up you sound like a baby "hey who the hell is HE..."

I had sent a question to Cox's customer service yesterday evening and I just received the email that confirms TBS-HD:

They may have LAUNCHED it today, but if so it missed the ocean, river or lake it was supposed to hit. Upon reading your note, I immediately went to my TV, and found that not only was channel 726 blank, but it wasn't even in the on screen program guide.
Of course I then went directly to the phone (waded through their disgusting menus, and finally got a technician.
1. He denied that any such e-mail was sent
2. He said Cox is not presently carrying TBS-HD, and did not know when or if they would.
3. I mentioned Cox's promise to have it up and running by the time the baseball playoffs started, and he professed to know nothing about such a promise.

Great service. Somebodies all f*cked up around here, and it ain't me.

They may have LAUNCHED it today, but if so it missed the ocean, river or lake it was supposed to hit. Upon reading your note, I immediately went to my TV, and found that not only was channel 726 blank, but it wasn't even in the on screen program guide.
Of course I then went directly to the phone (waded through their disgusting menus, and finally got a technician.
1. He denied that any such e-mail was sent
2. He said Cox is not presently carrying TBS-HD, and did not know when or if they would.
3. I mentioned Cox's promise to have it up and running by the time the baseball playoffs started, and he professed to know nothing about such a promise.

Great service. Somebodies all f*cked up around here, and it ain't me.
[rant mode=on]
Yeah, it's you.
1. Who sent you an email saying you have TBSHD?
2. He is correct, they are not presently carrying TBSHD and there is no public announcement anywhere when they are.
3. What promise? Cox has never said anything about having TBSHD up and running at any time, and they were in PRIVATE NEGOTIATIONS with TBS into the weekend for national carriage rights for the opportunity to carry the channel.
I repeat again - yeah, it's you - you basically called up a person at Cox and yelled at them for no reason based on your own feelings that they lied to you when they never said a G**-D*** word about anything about the matter.
Yeah, it's you - It's for reasons like this (and the D* HD launch fiasco) that cable companies like Cox don't make public announcements.
[rant mode= off]

I hope the rest of you enjoy the TBSHD presentation of the playoffs starting on WEDNESDAY (there is nothing else in HD except the playoffs). Cox in Las Vegas was able to obtain and get the equipment installed and should have a public launch, as scheduled, on WEDNESDAY. I know of several people who have been working double++ shifts to get the equipment installed, wired, tuned and tweaked on time for the playoff starting pitch. To them, a big
Thank You.

vegggas

TBSHD scheduled for October 3rd launch in Las Vegas. STB's should reboot and acquire the new channel overnight or early morning on October 3rd (typically somewhere between 2 & 6 AM).
If the game is starting on Wednesday and you still don't have the channel, try a hard reboot of your box to rebuild your IPG data.

vegggas

thanks vegggas how about hd on demand on cox?? thanks

please can anybody tell me about cox hd on demand in vegas

thanks:)

Still no word on official HDOD launch dates, but it was probably pushed back because of the TBSHD launch that probably used the available space. More space is coming available at the end of the month with the relocation of some analog to digital channels (see message in current bill).
For the record, the HD content has not increased since the first 5 HD movies used for testing earlier.

vegggas

[rant mode=on]
Yeah, it's you.
1. Who sent you an email saying you have TBSHD?
2. He is correct, they are not presently carrying TBSHD and there is no public announcement anywhere when they are.
3. What promise? Cox has never said anything about having TBSHD up and running at any time, and they were in PRIVATE NEGOTIATIONS with TBS into the weekend for national carriage rights for the opportunity to carry the channel.
I repeat again - yeah, it's you - you basically called up a person at Cox and yelled at them for no reason based on your own feelings that they lied to you when they never said a G**-D*** word about anything about the matter.
Yeah, it's you - It's for reasons like this (and the D* HD launch fiasco) that cable companies like Cox don't make public announcements.
[rant mode= off]

I hope the rest of you enjoy the TBSHD presentation of the playoffs starting on WEDNESDAY (there is nothing else in HD except the playoffs). Cox in Las Vegas was able to obtain and get the equipment installed and should have a public launch, as scheduled, on WEDNESDAY. I know of several people who have been working double++ shifts to get the equipment installed, wired, tuned and tweaked on time for the playoff starting pitch. To them, a big
Thank You.

vegggas
Based on post #5888 On TUESDAY, OCTOBER 2 by Demodave, an e-mail from Cox read:

Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to
providing the best customer service possible.

We have exciting news! We are proud to announce the launching of TBS HD
channel 726 today (emphasis added).

We have sent a signal to your Digital receiver, which will cause it to
reload.

The time will disappear from the front of the box while this process
transpires. When the time reappears, please turn on your TV and the
digital receiver and the problem should be corrected.

If this does not resolve the problem you are having, contact Cox
Technical Support at 702.383.4000.

If you have any further questions, contact Cox Communications at http://www.cox.com/support/lasvegas/contactsup/.
All emails are responded to within 24 hours.

Thank you,

Cox Communications
Las Vegas E-Support Team

Since there was nothing contradicting this info prior to WM's post, it would appear you may owe him an apology since this post appears to be what he based his expectations on. And unless his post was edited before I read it, there is no indication that he "yelled" at anyone. If you were told this by the CSR, you should have included that info in your response.

I could find nothing in the alleged e-mail that said this channel was only available to "certain" customers. It would appear that either the CSR or Demodave was lying or really misinformed.

You are generally considerate and fair in your responses, so the tone of this response really surprised me.

I've gone over the original posts several times and I'm pretty certain that I haven't missed anything. If I have, I apologize and would appreciate any information that would clarify the situation.
I can understand that you might have been aggravated/insulted by post #5885, but that should have been addressed as a separate issue.

Although I don't use Cox, I can appreciate your supplying info regarding them as I depend on Ebonovich on the D* forum who provides much the same type of service.

It's amazing that the technology and hardware/software that gives us our entertainment can sometimes create discussions that sometime go a little too personal.

Keep up the good work,
Rick

DIRECTV has added 11 new HD channels:

Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD (Channel 640)
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD (Channel 629)
New England Sports Network/NESN HD(Channel 623)
SportsNet New York HD (Channel 625)
YES HD (Channel 622)
Cinemax East (Channel 512)
Cinemax West (Channel 514)
HBO West (Channel 504)
Bravo (Channel 273)
SciFi Channel (Channel 244)
USA Network (Channel 242)

Nice..... USA and Scifi would be great to get with all their original programming available if it is actually produced in HD.

As for our newly added HD channels, I have noticed significantly lower signal levels for all the new HD channels, as much as 8 dBmV lower on QAM. It may not be a big deal for most though, but the new TBS channel is bordering on the "red" level for me and most of the others are "orange" levels. Most of my other HD channels come in at single digit negative.

So far none of the new channels are using stretch-o-vision!

726 :D Thanks for the heads up Vegggas!!!

Las Vegas HD Channel Guide October 4, 2007

Broadcast Networks OTA Cox DirecTV Dish CMA (Pahrump)
------------------ ----- ----- --------- ------ -------------
ABC (KTNV) 13-1 732 13
CBS (KLAS) 8-1 730 8
Fox (KVVU) 5-1 735 5
NBC (KVBC) 3-1 733 3
PBS (KLVX) 10-1 731
CW (KVCW) 33-1
MyTV (KVMY) 21-1

Cable Networks
------------------
A&E 707 265 9419
Animal Planet 282 9489
Big Ten Network 220 9500
Bravo 273
CNN 202
Discovery 278 9487
ESPN 704 206 9424 550
ESPN2 705 209 9425
Food Network HD 9462
Golf/Versus HD 604 9468
HGTV HD 9461
History 703 269 9491
National Geographic 702 9429 570
NFL Network HD 212 9464
Science Channel 284 9490
Sci-Fi 244
TBS 726 247
TLC 280 9488
TNT 709 245 9420 565
USA 242
Weather Channel 362

HD Only Networks
------------------
HD Theater 700 76 9421 555
HDNet 79 9422
HDNet Movies 78 9423
MHD 725 332 9492
Mojo 706
Smithsonian 267
Universal HD 708 74 9427 560

Local RSNs
------------------
FSN West 367
FSN Prime Ticket 361
FSN Arizona 365

Sports Subscriptions
------------------
MLB Extra Innings HD no yes no
NBA League Pass HD ??? yes yes
NHL Center Ice HD ??? yes yes
NFL Sunday Ticket HD no yes no

Premium Networks
------------------
HBO East 501 9456
HBO West 710 504 510
Cinemax East 512 9458
Cinemax West 711 514 530
The Movie Channel 544
Showtime East 537 9460
Showtime West 720 540 520
Sho Too 538
Starz East 520 9435
Starz West 721 521
Starz Comedy 519
Starz Edge 522
Starz Kids & Family 518

Voom Networks
------------------
Animania HD 9474
Equator HD 9471
Family Room HD 9486
Film Fest HD 9480
Gallery HD 9472
GamePlay HD 9485
HDNews 9482
Kung Fu HD 9479
Monsters HD 9481
Rave HD 9470
Rush HD 9476
Treasure HD 9477
Ultra HD 9478
World Cinema HD 9475
WorldSport HD 9473

Based on post #5888 On TUESDAY, OCTOBER 2 by Demodave, an e-mail from Cox read:

Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to
providing the best customer service possible.

We have exciting news! We are proud to announce the launching of TBS HD
channel 726 today (emphasis added).

We have sent a signal to your Digital receiver, which will cause it to
reload.

The time will disappear from the front of the box while this process
transpires. When the time reappears, please turn on your TV and the
digital receiver and the problem should be corrected.

If this does not resolve the problem you are having, contact Cox
Technical Support at 702.383.4000.

If you have any further questions, contact Cox Communications at http://www.cox.com/support/lasvegas/contactsup/.
All emails are responded to within 24 hours.

Thank you,

Cox Communications
Las Vegas E-Support Team

Since there was nothing contradicting this info prior to WM's post, it would appear you may owe him an apology since this post appears to be what he based his expectations on. And unless his post was edited before I read it, there is no indication that he "yelled" at anyone. If you were told this by the CSR, you should have included that info in your response.

I could find nothing in the alleged e-mail that said this channel was only available to "certain" customers. It would appear that either the CSR or Demodave was lying or really misinformed.

You are generally considerate and fair in your responses, so the tone of this response really surprised me.

I've gone over the original posts several times and I'm pretty certain that I haven't missed anything. If I have, I apologize and would appreciate any information that would clarify the situation.
I can understand that you might have been aggravated/insulted by post #5885, but that should have been addressed as a separate issue.

Although I don't use Cox, I can appreciate your supplying info regarding them as I depend on Ebonovich on the D* forum who provides much the same type of service.

It's amazing that the technology and hardware/software that gives us our entertainment can sometimes create discussions that sometime go a little too personal.

Keep up the good work,
Rick
My response was fueled by the fact that he felt "entitled" to the programming that no one ever told him he should have (it was all based on internet rumors). In no way was there ever a public announcement or any way that Cox told him that he was supposed to get TBSHD, but he felt that he should. The email sent to DemoDave was only sent to DemoDave, and not a public email sent to all customers. The email was probably sent by an employee who just learned about TBSHD being tested (saw the lineup) and got excited.

vegggas

My apologies to vegggas and any other Cox employees for posting the "private" email. I simply wanted to share the great news that vegggas had already announced by publishing the email I had just received. I truly felt it was public information I had received. For the record, I did remove the person's name that had signed the bottom of the email so that he wouldn't get a ton of tech-related phone calls.

In the future, I will not post a private email regarding any programming questions on this forum since the effects on certain people were largely negative.

Why am I fed up with Cox? Here's why!!!
Okay, this A.M, TBS-HD finally appeared.
I was surfing through the program guide to see if any other channels were "disturbed" by this. AND OF COURSE, ONE WAS.
PBS-HD (731) keeps reverting to 480p, and is showing a childrens program totally unrelated to anything in the program guide. Then switching to channel 10, to see if that was the signal appearing on 731, IT TOO was a program totally unrelated to what was supposed to be broadcast.
Right to the phone. Called the "tech".
Soory, was the response, HER sets show the proper programming on both channel 10 and 731. Now, totally at sea about all this, I recalled her and she "checked" with an engineer who acknowledges the problem. Why should adding TBS-HD have caused a problem on PBS-HD.?
And THEN a supposed technician, didn't know what the hell I was talking about. Now she says it "area wide" problem.
What a way to run a company!!
What does Vegggas have to say about that one?

"Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to providing the best customer service possible."
That's a quote from Cox.

What a friggin joke!!!

"Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to providing the best customer service possible."
That's a quote from Cox.

What a friggin joke!!!


Seems you need to switch providers. That is, unless you have a sadistic streak that makes you continue to use a product that underperforms in your eyes.

"Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to providing the best customer service possible."
That's a quote from Cox.

What a friggin joke!!!

I say come to Directv, too. Unless there's something that doesn't allow you to switch to satellite.

There are PLENTY of folks who vehemently complain about D* 's customer service also.. just troll those boards.

There are PLENTY of folks who vehemently complain about D* 's customer service also.. just troll those boards.

And honestly, that's the bottom line here. I assure you that no one provider of television content, sat or cable or otherwise, will EVER be perfect and give the customer flawless service. Each entity has its own shortcomings. Like the quote above will testify, you will always have complaints. The grass is always greener on that other side, isn't it?

BTW, thanks vegggas for the heads up concerning TBS-HD. Sadly, the broadcast team is blander than a glass of milk. The picture is awesome from my viewing so far in today's two games that have been or are currently being played. I love baseball. I'll tolerate the broadcasters.

Word do you even know if the person you talked to was in Las Vegas. Most the times these guys pool all the CSR's into call centers so you may call and get someone on the east coast (if your lucky) and if your not some companies even do it out of India. It's just like anything else. They do the bare minimum to get by. You roll the dice when you call.

I say come to Directv, too. Unless there's something that doesn't allow you to switch to satellite.

The fact is that I already HAVE Direct TV, but just the most rudimentary receiver +3 LNB dish. I have D* just for the Regional Sports Networks that they offer, but Cox REFUSES to carry+the MLB-EI package. I iike lots of sports and without the RSNs, COX comes nowhere near satisfying me.
But I live in an apartment. And although the dish is mounted on my patio , it IS mounted in stucco. I heard that the 5 LNB dish is both wider and heavier and fear that the present fixture will not be able to hold such a dish. In fact some forum members have noted that some installers WILL NOT install the 5 LNB dish on a stucco mount.
Also I like the PBS-HD broadcasts which D* does not carry.
So I'm on the fence, and until I can get enough information to make up my mind, I am undecided as to what to do.
But this latest incident with Cox, (in my view ) is inexcusable. In reporting the problems with PBS-HD (731) and PBS (10) that I encountered this morning, I was treated by the "techs" as if I didn't know what I was looking at in my home and they literally SWORE that their was nothing amiss with their broadcast. Here I was, telling them that the program guide listed the correct program but the program being broadcast bore no relationship to the program on the guide. I wanted to watch (on PBS-HD) an episode of "The War" (which the guide said I should be receiving), but I was watching a kiddie show in 480p. The apparent problem at Cox was they only looked at the information on the program guide, (which WAS correct) while they did NOT look at the actual program being broadcast. Is that due to laziness, stupidity or the inability to understand my complaint.? But whatever the reason. it took fully NINE hours (from 7 AM until almost 4PM) until they finally fixed the problem.
First, they wouldn't believe me, then they put me on hold forever, then they said they would escalate the problem (whatever THAT means), and the ABSOLUTE LAST STRAW was the fact that they said THEY could not communicate with the Engineers, by telephone or intercom, and THEY could only accomplish that via E-MAIL.
So I gather that if I, and and whatever few customers did NOT complain, loud and long, the problem would STILL exist. Simply because COX does NOT monitor its signal from various locations in the LV area. but only sits in its pillbox type bunker without regard for the paying customers.

Hey Maestro any way you can mount a dish on the patio railing? When I lived in an apartment complex that what the installer did. And it was rock solid. I'm not sure if this would work for the new 5lnd slimline. As for PBS and CW (the two local networks Directv does not carry) I can pick them up with a small pair of rabbit ears hidden behind my TV way up in North Las Vegas.

Directv CSRs and support techs are no rocket scientists. I'll come here or go to DBStalk with any issues I have before I call them. I say if you can do it it's worth a shot.

Cox doesn't outsource their customer service. During normal hours, customer service is handled within the local area, or at worst within the region (generally, Phoenix and Vegas will handle each other's issues if needed). Overnight, the calls go to the East coast (Atlanta area IIRC). And as for your perceived lack of service from Cox, if you act on the phone anything like you act on here, I can see why they wouldn't be willing to take extra steps for you. CSRs are people too and the level of service they provide is often directly proportional to the attitude of the person on the phone.

And as for your perceived lack of service from Cox, if you act on the phone anything like you act on here, I can see why they wouldn't be willing to take extra steps for you. CSRs are people too and the level of service they provide is often directly proportional to the attitude of the person on the phone.

It isn't perceived, it's real. I never asked them to take any "extra steps". I merely wanted to know what the problem was, why it had occured, and how long it would take to fix.
They are so convinced that they are talking to people that know even less than they do, and whose standards of viewing are far below that of those with higher standards and a critical eye, that they will lie and ignore your requests, just to get you off the phone, Including Internet service ,I pay Cox more than $160.00 monthly. That's almost $2000 a year. And for that amount of money, I expect instant answers to my questions and reasonable responses to any other request. And it's only when I don't get those that I lose my temper. And I will continue that pattern. And that includes some of the bozos on this forum as well as those people whose services I have purchased, and don't fulfill them to my satisfaction.

Hey Maestro any way you can mount a dish on the patio railing? . Thank You for your suggestions, but.....
There is no railing. There is merely a stucco wall having a top ledge about 1 foot wide. The present dish is mounted on the inside of that wall and is directed towards the southern sky in proper position to access signals. It seems like a sturdy enough installation. If I knew how much larger the slimline dish, with the 5 LNBs is, compared to my present dish with 3 LNBs, and how much more the new dish weighed than the old one, I would have the necessary information. But even Direct Tv doesn't seem to have that info.
Further, I couldn't care less about CW. Their type of programming does not interest me in the least. But PBS-HD has great documentaries, many classical music presentations and great science shows. Losing that would represent a real loss for me.

WM, how do you know that what Cox was broadcast was not what was being provided to them by KLVX? Perhaps KLVX was testing different multicast settings and broke what was being provided to Cox. Perhaps the CSR was just an idiot (welcome to first-level tech support for EVERY COMPANY ON THE PLANET) and neglected to mention that what they consider the proper program is passing through whatever they are provided.

WM, how do you know that what Cox was broadcast was not what was being provided to them by KLVX?

I agree. I highly doubt Cox is broadcasting something of their own choosing. I believe something was amiss at WLVX.

While I dumped Cox for their lack of HD programming...I cannot see how they could be held responsible for a station's change in programming. Did KLVX have some sort of other technical failure that prevented them to air what they had planned?

The guides aren't generated instantaneously for Cox or any other provider...they are developed from information given to them by the stations weeks in advance. Just for curiosity did you look in the newspaper to see what KLVX told them they were airing? Did you think of calling KLVX?

I am definitely not a Cox fan...but I can't see blaming them for something that appears to have originated at the station level.

FYI: Slimline Weight: 25 lbs (including J-mount mast, dish surface, LNBs, arm and pole attachment). Dish size: 22.5 in. x 32.5 in. Requires two coaxial feeds if used with an HR20-700 (unless local installer has the new SWM) Google is your friend.

I have it mounted into stucco with 4 3-4" screws.

. I love baseball. I'll tolerate the broadcasters.

You can always mute your tv and listen to the radio or internet announcers? Sometimes I do that with my beloved Colts and tune into the local (Indy) radio announcers throught the internet. The radio audio does lag the tv broadcast but that can be synced up using the DVR pause.

WM, how do you know that what Cox was broadcast was not what was being provided to them by KLVX? Perhaps KLVX was testing different multicast settings and broke what was being provided to Cox. Perhaps the CSR was just an idiot (welcome to first-level tech support for EVERY COMPANY ON THE PLANET) and neglected to mention that what they consider the proper program is passing through whatever they are provided.

That could be true, but it seemed a bit strange that it would happen the very same morning that TBSHD went live. I noticed because my HDTV is set up for 480p for SD viewing and it takes a bit to readjust when going from HD to SD. I was just channel flipping through the HD channels and the tv had to change its resolution when I flipped from 730 to 731, so Cox was broadcasting the PBS SD feed on the HD channel for awhile.

But whenever anything goes wrong like that, unless its an emergency, I tend to assume at first that its a problem they are already aware of and will eventually fix it. If for some reason the problem persists over a lengthy period, then I will call tech support to see whats going on. But, I generally agree with WM that most of the reps treat you like your a technophobic type of person.

Yeah that new dish is quite a bit larger. I was kind of surprised.

WM, how do you know that what Cox was broadcast was not what was being provided to them by KLVX? Perhaps KLVX was testing different multicast settings and broke what was being provided to Cox. Perhaps the CSR was just an idiot (welcome to first-level tech support for EVERY COMPANY ON THE PLANET) and neglected to mention that what they consider the proper program is passing through whatever they are provided.

Ah, I see we have another staunch defender of Cox (like Vegggas) without knowing full details.
I haven't mentioned it so far, but being the THOROUGH and scientically trained person that I am, I consult all possible sources before finally laying blame.
After receiving no satisfaction from Cox, I called KLVX. They were most pleasant and helpful. I found no reason to get "testy" with them. I explained the problem to an operator, who IMMEDIATELY CONNECTED ME WITH AN ENGINEER AT THE STATION. (JUST like Cox whose engineers live in a royal castle, disconnected from the outside world). They didn't treat me like a piece of crap,but as a concerned, intelligent viewer. After discussing the problem with the Engineer he made sure that the signals which were being sent to COX were as they appeared on the program guide. BOTH PBS (10) and PBS-HD (731) were broadcasting the CORRECT programs. He said HE would contact Cox and call me back., HE DID so in less than 15 minutes, saying he had reported the problem, and that Cox had told him THEY would call me back as well. That was 24 hrs ago. I'm STILL waiting for the call from COX.

I was just channel flipping through the HD channels and the tv had to change its resolution when I flipped from 730 to 731, so Cox was broadcasting the PBS SD feed on the HD channel for awhile.

But whenever anything goes wrong like that, unless its an emergency, I tend to assume at first that its a problem they are already aware of and will eventually fix it. If for some reason the problem persists over a lengthy period, then I will call tech support to see whats going on. But, I generally agree with WM that most of the reps treat you like your a technophobic type of person.

When the problem first appeared, I thought that PBS-HD was carrying the PBS (10) feed. That would have been unusual, but understandable. However switching to PBS (10) there was a totally different program from what was then on PBS-HD and NEITHER of them corresponded to what was listed in the program guide. The fact is they weren't aware of the problem until I called them at about 7:30 AM and they tended to dismiss my complaint as being from a "kook". For almost $2000 year, I don't deserve that kind of treatment.

What a Soap Opera Here!

looks like we watch a little TOO MUCH TV and bitching about it

I'm STILL waiting for that call from Cox Communications.

Cox does unofficial rumors and Erect promises HD channels that don't exist. They both need to be thrown out.

How does crow taste?

I'm enjoying the new Species gal on Sci-Fi "doesn't exist" HD.

I am receiving local CW HD OTA on my VIP622 DVR but on the E* guide it seems to think that the programming is Telemundo. Make it kinda difficult to record anything on the DVR unless you want to mess around with timers etc.

Anyone else have/had this issue and is there a known fix for it ?

TIA

Cox announced it signed distribution deals for TBSHD and CNNHD. As you know, TBSHD has already launched here in Vegas.

Las Vegas HD Channel Guide October 5, 2007

Broadcast Networks OTA Cox DirecTV Dish CMA (Pahrump)
------------------ ----- ----- --------- ------ -------------
ABC (KTNV) 13-1 732 13
CBS (KLAS) 8-1 730 8
Fox (KVVU) 5-1 735 5
NBC (KVBC) 3-1 733 3
PBS (KLVX) 10-1 731
CW (KVCW) 33-1
MyTV (KVMY) 21-1

Cable Networks
------------------
A&E 707 265 9419
Animal Planet 282 9489
Big Ten Network 220 9500
Bravo 273
CNN 202
Discovery 278 9487
ESPN 704 206 9424 550
ESPN2 705 209 9425
Food Network HD 9462
Golf/Versus HD 604 9468
HGTV HD 9461
History 703 269 9491
National Geographic 702 9429 570
NFL Network HD 212 9464
Science Channel 284 9490
Sci-Fi 244
TBS 726 247 9499
TLC 280 9488
TNT 709 245 9420 565
USA 242
Weather Channel 362

HD Only Networks
------------------
HD Theater 700 76 9421 555
HDNet 79 9422
HDNet Movies 78 9423
MHD 725 332 9492
Mojo 706
Smithsonian 267
Universal HD 708 74 9427 560

Local RSNs
------------------
FSN West 367
FSN Prime Ticket 361
FSN Arizona 365

Sports Subscriptions
------------------
MLB Extra Innings HD no yes no
NBA League Pass HD ??? yes yes
NHL Center Ice HD ??? yes yes
NFL Sunday Ticket HD no yes no

Premium Networks
------------------
HBO East 501 9456
HBO West 710 504 510
Cinemax East 512 9458
Cinemax West 711 514 530
The Movie Channel 544
Showtime East 537 9460
Showtime West 720 540 520
Sho Too 538
Starz East 520 9435
Starz West 721 521
Starz Comedy 519
Starz Edge 522
Starz Kids & Family 518

Voom Networks
------------------
Animania HD 9474
Equator HD 9471
Family Room HD 9486
Film Fest HD 9480
Gallery HD 9472
GamePlay HD 9485
HDNews 9482
Kung Fu HD 9479
Monsters HD 9481
Rave HD 9470
Rush HD 9476
Treasure HD 9477
Ultra HD 9478
World Cinema HD 9475
WorldSport HD 9473

Dish gets on board with TBS.

Note to Dish subs, TBS doesn't have a 4 digit channel number. (edit, it will be 9499) Do you guys normally surf the 9400's for HD or should I update the guide to list the mapdown channel numbers instead?

You can always mute your tv and listen to the radio or internet announcers? Sometimes I do that with my beloved Colts and tune into the local (Indy) radio announcers throught the internet. The radio audio does lag the tv broadcast but that can be synced up using the DVR pause.

Good workaround. I've used it before. Sadly, I had a situation where I had no internet access at the time I was watching the game. Thanks for the suggestion, tho!

E* has had the Telemundo guide info for 33-1 for over a year now, and refuses to acknowledge or fix the problem. I canceled my contract with them over that very matter (among other issues). When they tried to charge me $180 cancellation fee, I contacted BBB. They backed down, and withdrew the charge. I see they still think 33-1 is KBLR.

Note to Dish subs, TBS doesn't have a 4 digit channel number. (edit, it will be 9499) Do you guys normally surf the 9400's for HD or should I update the guide to list the mapdown channel numbers instead?

I always surf in the 9000's because that's where all the HD is. I never use the "mapdown" feature because I don't watch any of the SD channels on E*.

George LV,
You listed the following; But you omitted some information

Local RSNs
------------------
FSN West - Is available on D* on Channel 652
FSN Prime Ticket - Is available on D* on channel 653
FSN Arizona -Is available (With the Sports Pak) on channel 649
FSN Bay Area- Is available on D*(with the Sports Pak) on ch 654
Baseball games on those channels are available at no extra charge (meaning MLB-EI- not needed)- if you have purchased the Sports Pak at about $10 monthly.

George LV,
You listed the following; But you omitted some information

Local RSNs
------------------
FSN West - Is available on D* on Channel 652
FSN Prime Ticket - Is available on D* on channel 653
FSN Arizona -Is available (With the Sports Pak) on channel 649
FSN Bay Area- Is available on D*(with the Sports Pak) on ch 654
Baseball games on those channels are available at no extra charge (meaning MLB-EI- not needed)- if you have purchased the Sports Pak at about $10 monthly.

Word, are you saying that you were able to view the above-mentioned channels for HD baseball with no consequence of blackout rules? How often did those channels broadcast in HD? Just home games (like the Padres from the year we got them in HD) or most all games?

Word, are you saying that you were able to view the above-mentioned channels for HD baseball with no consequence of blackout rules? How often did those channels broadcast in HD? Just home games (like the Padres from the year we got them in HD) or most all games?

Many, but not all, of the games on our locals RSNs were carried on the part-time mpeg2 catch-all channels 94 and 95. However, because it wasn't a dedicated channel, the first few innings would often not shown because the Yankees game scheduled before it ran long.

FSN West and FSN Prime Ticket are supposed to be carried in HD 24/7 on a DirecTV national beam by the end of October. When that happens we'll get all the games in HD for the entire game.

It's the worst if you're a Mets fan. And to add insult to injury, the Phillies will probably get dumped in the first round.

I should have bet on this. :cool:

Did anyone else watch CBS's HD broadcast of the Florida / LSU game on DirecTV? To me, the PQ was positively abysmal. I'm wondering if its CBS, DirecTV, or my receiver (Denon 3808ci).

Word, are you saying that you were able to view the above-mentioned channels for HD baseball with no consequence of blackout rules? How often did those channels broadcast in HD? Just home games (like the Padres from the year we got them in HD) or most all games?

No , I wasn't able to watch them in HD at all. But FSN West, FSN Prime Ticket, FSN Arizona, and FSN Bay Area are NOT subject to blackout restrictions if you have them as part of the Sports Pak. Those are the rules for D*,because they carry RSNs. Crappy Cox doesn't, so those rules do not apply to them.
For example, If I wanted to watch the Mets vs Arizona in a game that was carried by SNY and it was the SNY feed that was used for the MLB-EI broadcast, I would be blacked out. But if that game was ALSO carried by FSN AZ, even though it WAS NOT the telecast offered on MLB-EI, if I tuned to FSN AZ, I would be, AND WAS, able to see the game. I assume the same pattern will be in effect when the RSNs go to HD. Of course, I prefer an HD telecast, but if that is not available, SD will do just fine., It's the game I care about, not the pixels or the screen width.

Did anyone else watch CBS's HD broadcast of the Florida / LSU game on DirecTV? To me, the PQ was positively abysmal. I'm wondering if its CBS, DirecTV, or my receiver (Denon 3808ci).

No, it was that bad on COX as well

11:10am.. ABC not in HD for the NASCAR Talladega race... is it just me? Cox? National ABC? Local ABC?

I guess if its cox.... I need to buy an over the air tuner...
-b

-edit-

-11:32 some one somewhere threw a switch... its back on! go 31!

No, it was that bad on COX as well

pixelation was really bad in the tenn vs uga game...not as bad for lsu vs fla.

Did anyone else watch CBS's HD broadcast of the Florida / LSU game on DirecTV? To me, the PQ was positively abysmal. I'm wondering if its CBS, DirecTV, or my receiver (Denon 3808ci).

Ever since KLAS started multicasting LATV on 8-2 their sports PQ has suffered. CBS football looks much better on Sunday Ticket than the local broadcast.

Ever since KLAS started multicasting LATV on 8-2 their sports PQ has suffered. CBS football looks much better on Sunday Ticket than the local broadcast.

I have to agree with you, George. Looking at the two NFL games played this morning, Fox was MUCH clearer than the CBS broadcast. I can't help but think that KLAS may be devoting too much bandwidth to things other than its HD channel judging by the Sunday Ticket assessment as that would be a national feed, correct?

Joust God,
I answered your query regarding "blackouts" of baseball games in post #5937. Do you have a comment ?

Joust God,
I answered your query regarding "blackouts" of baseball games in post #5937. Do you have a comment ?


Sorry. Didn't mean to seem I ignored your post. I'm going to assume that DirecTV's recent sat launch will also make the package of RSNs available as an HD choice as well judging from George's post. The combination of no blackouts AND far greater HD choices in regards to baseball, is going to make me think long and hard about switching to DirecTV. In the meantime, I'll just sit back and see how the HD wars pan out over the winter.

Thanks for your replies, Word and George.

D* has now come out with a new HD tuner (H21,HR21)that does not include a built in OTA digital tuner for getting locals. I guess they really need that extra $3/month from you for something that should be free to begin with!

D* has now come out with a new HD tuner (H21,HR21)that does not include a built in OTA digital tuner for getting locals. I guess they really need that extra $3/month from you for something that should be free to begin with!

Can you tell me which one of Cox's set top boxes gets OTA? Now, I don't think it should have been removed from the DVR model, but for the standard HD receiver it doesn't make sense now that all tvs are mandated to include ATSC tuners.

Also the $3/month "extra" for locals is Cox propaganda. For new subs, all base package include locals. In markets where locals aren't available the base packages are $3 cheaper. If you want to play that game, Cox is the undisputed leader in regional price differences. Go compare the pricing in difference systems across the country and see how many "fees" you can invent for the privilege of having Cox in Las Vegas.

Those of you with DTV and the Mpeg 4 receivers (H20/HR20/H21/HR21) can you tell me what levels you are getting on satellite 103?

Also do any of you know which channels are supposed to be on the new 103 satellite?

Are these HD channels being broadcast via spot-beam or national?

Those of you with DTV and the Mpeg 4 receivers (H20/HR20/H21/HR21) can you tell me what levels you are getting on satellite 103?

Also do any of you know which channels are supposed to be on the new 103 satellite?

Are these HD channels being broadcast via spot-beam or national?

103a = Southern California HD locals spotbeams
1-8: 40 0 0 0 48 51 n/a n/a

103b = National HD channels
1-8: 79 82 81 80 82 81 82 82
9-16: 85 83 85 81 86 87 n/a n/a
17-24: 89 n/a n/a n/a n/a 88 n/a n/a

All the new HD channels (33 and counting) are on the 103b satellite and are national beam.

Thanks George.... I am having some "issues" with an HR20-100 that I recently received. I also have an HR20-700 and it is getting all of the new HD channels just find..., but the -100 is not picking up 212, 242, 265, 269, 278, 284, & 362... most importantly it also sometimes cannot receive 244 which is just unacceptable! HeeHee

On 103(b) I am receiving nothing on Tuner 1, but excellent signal strength on Tuner 2 (this is on the -700) and on 103(a) I receive nothing at all on tuner 1, but I am receiving two transponders on turner 2.

Can you tell me which one of Cox's set top boxes gets OTA? Now, I don't think it should have been removed from the DVR model, but for the standard HD receiver it doesn't make sense now that all tvs are mandated to include ATSC tuners.

Also the $3/month "extra" for locals is Cox propaganda. For new subs, all base package include locals. In markets where locals aren't available the base packages are $3 cheaper. If you want to play that game, Cox is the undisputed leader in regional price differences. Go compare the pricing in difference systems across the country and see how many "fees" you can invent for the privilege of having Cox in Las Vegas.


When you get HD from Cox , the locals come with that charge. When you subscribe to D*, locals in HD (only the big 4) are an extra $3/month. Yes, their advertised prices include that $3 so it looks as if your getting them free. I currently have choice , no locals and pay $3 less than their advertised price for my package.

yes most TVs come with ATSC tuners now but not everyone have them yet and even if thats true, its great to be able to get the OTA channels off the D* receiver instead of having to change TV inputs just for 33-1 or 21-1 which Cox does not include.

Anyone know when Cox is going to get NFL Network HD?
I just saw that DTV has it and I'm pissed cox hasn't gotten it yet.
I tried calling Cox but they had me on hold for 20 minutes and I just hung up.

Last year, the NFL games that were broadcast on the NFL Network were simulcast on INHD, which is now MOJO. But who knows what will happen this year.

Anyone know when Cox is going to get NFL Network HD?
I just saw that DTV has it and I'm pissed cox hasn't gotten it yet.
I tried calling Cox but they had me on hold for 20 minutes and I just hung up.

Cox Rhode Island already has it. And CNN. And Discovery. And TLC. And their local RSNs.

Cox Las Vegas sometimes feels like Cox Last Vegas for getting new channels.

Last year, the NFL games that were broadcast on the NFL Network were simulcast on INHD, which is now MOJO. But who knows what will happen this year.

Last year INHD had MLB HD games of the week and they disappeared when it became Mojo.

Directv gets 4 more HD channels this morning.

CNBC
NGHD
MGHMD
FoodHD

Still waiting on FX!

Last year INHD had MLB HD games of the week and they disappeared when it became Mojo.

EVERYTHING worth watching on INHD disappeared when it became Mojo.
Why on earth does Cox believe that their is actually an audience for the crap that is broadcast on Mojo?

EVERYTHING worth watching on INHD disappeared when it became Mojo.
Why on earth does Cox believe that their is actually an audience for the crap that is broadcast on Mojo?

Because they have an ownership stake in it.

Also, from what I've seen on their website, at the very least Dr. Danger looks like an interesting program. Unlike most documentaries, it doesn't seem afraid to portray the Mad Max like reality in some of the third world countries.

cox cable las vegas now has multistream cable cards available for rent. Ive got my appt scheduled for Saturday morning. It'll save me $7 a month - $2 for the second cable and $5 for the BS additional outlet fee. That should pay the second $30 install fee back in 4 months and maybe ill break even on this tivo experiment sometime before the end of my 3 year obligation. Or never if i have to rent a device to send upstream signals back for SDV.

Which TiVo do you have? I think the Series 3 TiVo needs an update first. I think the TiVoHD is ready to go.

I have the TiVo HD. The lady on the phone even said that the old Series 3 wont work yet, however the TiVo HD models will.

Has anyone noticed a GREAT deal of pixelization on TBS-HD during its baseball telecasts on Cox Cable? This has been going on since the Divisional Series started last week. and was present on every broadcast of both leagues. The audio also momentarily cut out during those pixelization episodes. Yet yesterday 10/11, the broadcast of the game was perfect, with no pixelization and no audio drop outs.
But today during Game 2 of the Rockies-D'Backs coverage, the same problem has returned.

Has anyone noticed a GREAT deal of pixelization on TBS-HD during its baseball telecasts on Cox Cable? This has been going on since the Divisional Series started last week. and was present on every broadcast of both leagues. The audio also momentarily cut out during those pixelization episodes. Yet yesterday 10/11, the broadcast of the game was perfect, with no pixelization and no audio drop outs.
But today during Game 2 of the Rockies-D'Backs coverage, the same problem has returned.

I dont know about the pixelization, but I did notice on the diagnostic pages of the 8300 dvr that the overal channel signal levels for all the newly added HD channels were several points lower than the rest.

Meh, so the subcontractor shows up this morning WITHOUT the M-stream Cable card (he showed up with two S-Cards). Now the appt is for Thursday night. Wonderful. Because I wanted to drag my ass out of bed at 7AM on a Saturday for nothing. When I wake up in a few hours, I'll call Cox and demand a credit and see where I get (considering they're charging me $30 for the install).

Meh, so the subcontractor shows up this morning WITHOUT the M-stream Cable card (he showed up with two S-Cards). Now the appt is for Thursday night. Wonderful. Because I wanted to drag my ass out of bed at 7AM on a Saturday for nothing. When I wake up in a few hours, I'll call Cox and demand a credit and see where I get (considering they're charging me $30 for the install).

Remember if you will the opening statement on each e-mail you receive from Cox:

"Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to providing the best customer service possible."

If what they provide is the "best" possible, can you imagine what "inferior" service must be like?

It seems like when you buy a TiVo these days, you're just purchasing the opportunity to be treated like crap by your cable company. They want nothing at all to do with cable cards and bungle their installation and support every step of the way. Furthermore, since the customer is down three hundred bucks already on the purchase of the box, there's not a very credible threat to switch to one of the satellite companies anytime soon.

I dont know about the pixelization, but I did notice on the diagnostic pages of the 8300 dvr that the overal channel signal levels for all the newly added HD channels were several points lower than the rest.

And just what would be the cause of that?
Is it lack of care on the part of Cox?
Are the actual broadcast sources of those new HD stations particularly "weak"?
Are the same weaknesses observed when viewing those channels on Direct TV?
If not, isn't that simply more proof that Cox doesn't give a damn about REAL quality, and because Cox is a cable monopoly in this town thay think they can shove anything down our throats and we will accept it, because we're simply STUCK with it?

It seems like when you buy a TiVo these days, you're just purchasing the opportunity to be treated like crap by your cable company. They want nothing at all to do with cable cards and bungle their installation and support every step of the way. Furthermore, since the customer is down three hundred bucks already on the purchase of the box, there's not a very credible threat to switch to one of the satellite companies anytime soon.

Down three hundred dollars AND a three year contract to TiVo. Cox can treat me like crap because they can. This is what makes it so difficult to recommend TiVo to friends and family. Nevermind whats going to happen when the SDV Resolver gets rolled out.

I just got off the phone with Cox and after speaking to a supervisor was able to get the $30 install credited to my account. So the install is free because they were unprepared.

It would have been one thing if they called the night before to reschedule, or had the equipment been defective (it took four visits initially to get my two single stream cable cards working because of the number of defective cards). But its just complete lack of commitment to the customer to schedule an appointment when you dont have the equipment.

But its just complete lack of commitment to the customer to schedule an appointment when you dont have the equipment.


What do you expect? That's the Cox brand of giving us the "best customer service possible".

Remember if you will the opening statement on each e-mail you receive from Cox:

"Thank you for contacting Cox Communications. Cox is committed to providing the best customer service possible."

If what they provide is the "best" possible, can you imagine what "inferior" service must be like?

Also..when you email them, you'll likely get an answer from a foreigner. I received a reply the other day that had all kinds of "mis-spoken" english in the text of the answer. Also, they don't really bother to read the first email you send. The just automatically send a canned response from whatever subject line you chose . Then the best you can hope for after a few more replies is a promise to send your concern up the ladder or to the local people to handle.

My dad has been getting audio breakups on TBS-HD too. He has a cable card in his Sony TV. Now he can watch the game on the TiVo in the other room just fine. He had the tech come out and they replaced the card and checked all the cabling. He told my dad that the techs were going to have a meeting in the morning and he was going to ask the other tech s about this and he gave my dad his phone number. So my dad called him the next day and he told him that they were having some problems with the new HD channels and they would be fixed within a week. My dad told them if it wasn't he would call the tech back. So I guess we'll see. I don't see what can be so hard to setup one channel when you have others just like it that are fine. Maybe Vegggas can enlighten me here.

Las Vegas HD Channel Guide October 15, 2007

Broadcast Networks OTA Cox DirecTV Dish CMA (Pahrump)
------------------ ----- ----- --------- ------ -------------
ABC (KTNV) 13-1 732 13
CBS (KLAS) 8-1 730 8
Fox (KVVU) 5-1 735 5
NBC (KVBC) 3-1 733 3
PBS (KLVX) 10-1 731
CW (KVCW) 33-1
MyTV (KVMY) 21-1

Cable Networks
------------------
A&E 707 265 9419
Animal Planet 282 9489
Big Ten Network 220 9500
Bravo 273
Cartoon Network 296
CNBC 355
CNN 202
Discovery 278 9487
ESPN 704 206 9424 550
ESPN2 705 209 9425
Food Network HD 231-1 9462
Fox Business 359
Fuel 612
FX 248
Golf/Versus HD 604 9468
HGTV HD 229-1 9461
History 703 269 9491
National Geographic 702 276 9429 570
NFL Network 212 9464
Science Channel 284 9490
Sci-Fi 244
Speed 607
TBS 726 247 9499
TLC 280 9488
TNT 709 245 9420 565
USA 242
Weather Channel 362

HD Only Networks
------------------
HD Theater 700 76 9421 555
HDNet 79 9422
HDNet Movies 78 9423
MGM 255
MHD 725 332 9492
Mojo 706
Smithsonian 267
Universal HD 708 74 9427 560

Premium Networks
------------------
HBO East 501 9456
HBO West 710 504 510
Cinemax East 512 9458
Cinemax West 711 514 530
The Movie Channel 544
Showtime East 537 9460
Showtime West 720 540 520
Sho Too 538
Starz East 520 9435
Starz West 721 521
Starz Comedy 519
Starz Edge 522
Starz Kids & Family 518

Local RSNs (* games only)
------------------
FSN West 652 367*
FSN Prime Ticket 653 361*
FSN Arizona 365*

Sports Subscriptions
------------------
MLB Extra Innings HD no yes no
NBA League Pass HD ??? yes yes
NHL Center Ice HD ??? yes yes
NFL Sunday Ticket HD no yes no

Voom Networks
------------------
Animania HD 9474
Equator HD 9471
Family Room HD 9486
Film Fest HD 9480
Gallery HD 9472
GamePlay HD 9485
HDNews 9482
Kung Fu HD 9479
Monsters HD 9481
Rave HD 9470
Rush HD 9476
Treasure HD 9477
Ultra HD 9478
World Cinema HD 9475
WorldSport HD 9473

Hmmm...Cox has channel 699 now on its IPG. HDOD. Could be coming soon now. Right now it does nothing other than take you to the regular On Demand selections.

A few new channels scattered in the 700's now show that HD movies are now available on Channel 699. But going to Ch 699 appears to still bring up the standard On Demand menu. Looking around, I cannot find a hint of HD content there. Maybe it is rolling out on a node-by-node basis. Anyone else able to see HD content on 699? If so, what's available?

Looking at the Cox site with listings for OnDemand, I found this one.

A Mighty Heart HD R HD Version. On January 23, 2002, Mariane Pearl's world changed forever. Her husband Daniel left home for a meeting and never returned. HD Television and HD Cable Box required.

Premier Date: 11/30/2007

Looks like channel 699 is the launching area for getting the HDOD on Cox. At this point, it looks like only pay-per-view is available this way. I was kind of hoping that HDOD would also include premium channel content such as the SDOD does. I already pay enough money without wanting to give out $5.95 to watch a movie that will eventually appear on the premium tier. Hopefully, this will be an evolving process...hopefully.

A few new channels scattered in the 700's now show that HD movies are now available on Channel 699. But going to Ch 699 appears to still bring up the standard On Demand menu. Looking around, I cannot find a hint of HD content there. Maybe it is rolling out on a node-by-node basis. Anyone else able to see HD content on 699? If so, what's available?

Channels 719, 729, 734, 739 show the HD on Demand message. My guess is that these are channel numbers reserved for other future HD channels?

Channels 719, 729, 734, 739 show the HD on Demand message. My guess is that these are channel numbers reserved for other future HD channels?

The "discovery suite" of channels perhaps? Has anyone ordered an HD movie and seen what channel COX sends the signal to?

PS. There is a new channel available on 852, listed as AMCOD (American Movie Classics on Demand?), but is showing information on the Nevada Primary and how it will be conducted.

I wonder what will get better ratings, this channel, or GoScoutAutos?

Has anyone ordered an HD movie and seen what channel COX sends the signal to?

It's kind of hard to order something that Cox does not currently offer. ;)

PS. There is a new channel available on 852, listed as AMCOD (American Movie Classics on Demand?)


Actually, that channel has been there for months.

Channels 719, 729, 734, 739 show the HD on Demand message. My guess is that these are channel numbers reserved for other future HD channels?

I would think NFL Network HD and the CW network are two of them.....CW would probably be on 734. Just guessing.

Multistream cablecard update:

Quite possibly the easiest and quickest CableCard installation I've heard of. The guy was done in 10 minutes. Took out the two Scards, put in the Mcard, emailed in the numbers to Cox HQ, got an email back in a few minutes saying it was provisioned and it worked fine.

I'm floored Cox was able to provide a flawless experience this time around (as opposed to Saturday morning when the guy came out without any Mcards).

I went to the channel last night and the movies were available to order, didn't feel like wasting the $5.95 just to test it out.

(if you were being sarcastic, sorry, it's been a long day)

:confused:

I went to the channel last night and the movies were available to order, didn't feel like wasting the $5.95 just to test it out.

(if you were being sarcastic, sorry, it's been a long day)

:confused:

I wasn't being sarcastic, but I did find out that HDOD is now available, just not to me. :D Apparently, my box didn't take the update because when I go to any of the HDOD channels it says "no data available". Not a big deal for me, though. I never buy PPV's anyway, HD or not.

I've been experiencing a very annoying audio issue over 33.1 lately that I can only describe as a very loud static/snow sound. It's so loud it actually makes everyone in the room jump in their seats. This is happening via their OTA feed through a D* hr20-100. It's been happening for 3 weeks straight now when I watch Reaper. I don't know if it happens at other times since in the only show that is watched on that channel.

Anyone else experiencing this?

D* has placed a ton of full page ads in today's USA today paper touting their new status as king of the HD hill in tvland. This is their first major ad blitz since the addition of the new HD channels. Cox and the like should begin to feel more heat to add more channels, but there's no way they can even come close to matching what D* has done. I guess I'll go ahead and dump CoxHD in favor of D*.

I've been experiencing a very annoying audio issue over 33.1 lately that I can only describe as a very loud static/snow sound. It's so loud it actually makes everyone in the room jump in their seats. This is happening via their OTA feed through a D* hr20-100. It's been happening for 3 weeks straight now when I watch Reaper. I don't know if it happens at other times since in the only show that is watched on that channel.

Anyone else experiencing this?


Happens here too. ALso during Smallville. Usually about 2-3 times in any given 1 hour episode. Its like a loud pop, with a 1/2 second loud static hiss, then a second of muffled voice, then all returns to normal. OTA 33-1 on a DTV HR20-700.

D* has placed a ton of full page ads in today's USA today paper touting their new status as king of the HD hill in tvland. This is their first major ad blitz since the addition of the new HD channels. Cox and the like should begin to feel more heat to add more channels, but there's no way they can even come close to matching what D* has done. I guess I'll go ahead and dump CoxHD in favor of D*.

I saw their commercial as well - a gigantic satellite in space. Though the satellite had a spoiler on it. Why would something in space need extra downforce? Theres no air!!

Happens here too. ALso during Smallville. Usually about 2-3 times in any given 1 hour episode. Its like a loud pop, with a 1/2 second loud static hiss, then a second of muffled voice, then all returns to normal. OTA 33-1 on a DTV HR20-700.

Thanks....I'm in contact with the engineer and he's trying to find out what's going on.

Is anyone actually getting true high-def on Natl. Geo HD and History Channel HD on Cox? Seems to me every program is just a 4:3 image stretched.

And what's the deal with TNT-HD? Some movies are true high-def -- like I watched PATRIOT recently and it was the real deal -- but many others are 4:3 standard-def stretched --like SEVEN the other night.

Huh?

While you are correct about the bulk of History HD's programming, Nat Geo HD is mostly real HD. If it's not, you will see the sidebars. They have been producing almost everything in HD for over two years. History HD unfortunately stretches SD 4:3 content to fill the screen at all times. But if you look on the digital guide, it will show what shows are real HD and which are not. You will see that the majority are not on History HD. A&E, TBS and TNT also stretch.

For a comprehensive list of HD channels and whether they stretch or crop the image, check out this list:

http://digitalcaffeine.com/hd/

Be aware: as of this writing, guide data for Cox is shifted up an hour for all programs next Sunday. Surely it will be corrected before then. dont know if it will affect DVR programs set up for "all episodes"

Be aware: as of this writing, guide data for Cox is shifted up an hour for all programs next Sunday. Surely it will be corrected before then. dont know if it will affect DVR programs set up for "all episodes"

That's because the idiots at Cox think that Daylight Savings Time is ending this weekend. But it isn't. Congress has moved the date to the first Sunday in November. So it won't change until 2 AM on Nov 4th.
Typical of Cox---Right on the ball!!

Any other Cox customers notice that the audio on TNT-HD is out of sync? Whenever I've watched the channel the last couple days, all programming is about 1 second out of sync. Weird!

This only happens with TNT-HD, all other channels are fine.

that is a constant problem i have noticed it since getting COX HD. i try to ignore it sometimes, but it drives me crazy. if i watch for too long and switch channels, i think all of the audio is out of sync (it isn't). originally, i called COX, but they gave me the typical--we can update your box and that will fix the problem, i said thanks, but no thanks.

Be aware: as of this writing, guide data for Cox is shifted up an hour for all programs next Sunday. Surely it will be corrected before then. dont know if it will affect DVR programs set up for "all episodes"

Well, its Tuesday and guide time data for next week still not fixed...Sunday and Monday data showing all shows one hour earlier than actual. I cant believe they dont know about this. :(

Well, its Tuesday and guide time data for next week still not fixed...Sunday and Monday data showing all shows one hour earlier than actual. I cant believe they dont know about this. :(

I explained why this is happening in post #5991.
Cox just doesn't CARE!!

Well, its Tuesday and guide time data for next week still not fixed...Sunday and Monday data showing all shows one hour earlier than actual. I cant believe they dont know about this. :(

We went over this in March didn't we?

There is a patch to fix this, but Cox LV hasn't rolled it out yet for reasons unknown.

Channels 719, 729, 734, 739 show the HD on Demand message. My guess is that these are channel numbers reserved for other future HD channels?

Any update on these? (Too bad Cox doesn't use their semi-standard numbering of HD channel = 700+analog channel here)

We went over this in March didn't we?

There is a patch to fix this, but Cox LV hasn't rolled it out yet for reasons unknown.

Wed. morning and still no guide time data fix for next week. I even called yesterday to tell the nice people at Cox about the problem. The lady told me all that stuff was handled by the Atlanta Corporate offices. Basically told me "not my problem" ..

OK, finally, thursday morning and all guide time data fixed for next week. Now ...what will happen when the time REALLY changes on the 4th??:confused:

FYI, If you hate Joe Buck's announcing, you can hear the Denver broadcast on KOA 850 AM after sunset thanks to the wonders of nighttime AM propagation.

FYI, If you hate Joe Buck's announcing, you can hear the Denver broadcast on KOA 850 AM after sunset thanks to the wonders of nighttime AM propagation.


Nice picture for Fox HD. A shame they feel compelled to keep going to the minister of misinformation known as Joe Buck. Joe should thank his lucky stars that he gets to ride the coattails of his dad who was truly a joy to listen to. This acorn fell FAR away from the tree evidently.

FYI, If you hate Joe Buck's announcing, you can hear the Denver broadcast on KOA 850 AM after sunset thanks to the wonders of nighttime AM propagation.

...or you could listen to it on the internet thanks to the wonders of modern technology.

...or you could listen to it on the internet thanks to the wonders of modern technology.


Yes, one of the best workarounds for alternate audio is to subscribe to MLB's Gameday Audio package. One of the few things that MLB has done right for its fans as a whole (no blackouts!). I've experienced that slight adjustments involving delaying the broadcast via your DVR will be needed to sync up the internet audio with the Fox broadcast.

Nice picture for Fox HD. A shame they feel compelled to keep going to the minister of misinformation known as Joe Buck. Joe should thank his lucky stars that he gets to ride the coattails of his dad who was truly a joy to listen to. This acorn fell FAR away from the tree evidently.

funny..I don't mind him nearly as much as Tim McCarver... but I can't stand John Miller and Joe Morgan either...

I wish Vin Scully was still young....

-b

I am a Center Ice subscriber and last night I was looking forward to watching the Buffalo-Florida game. However, the page that listed which game was on which channel, indicated that the game was on NHL Net rather than Center Ice. I could not find this channel in the Cox lineup.

Does anyone know whether we will be getting this channel? I'm sure I can get a more accurate answer from the knowledgable people on this board as opposed to calling Cox.

Thanks,

Hask

I am a Center Ice subscriber and last night I was looking forward to watching the Buffalo-Florida game. However, the page that listed which game was on which channel, indicated that the game was on NHL Net rather than Center Ice. I could not find this channel in the Cox lineup.

Does anyone know whether we will be getting this channel? I'm sure I can get a more accurate answer from the knowledgable people on this board as opposed to calling Cox.

Thanks,

Hask

I doubt it's coming anytime soon. If you're a hockey fan you ought to subscribe to satellite since Cox doesn't carry many of the channels with hockey content at all and what they do carry is SD only.

NHL Network: DirecTV 215 (HD), Dish 403 (HD), Cox DOES NOT CARRY
HDNet: DirecTV 79 (HD), Dish 9422 (HD), Cox DOES NOT CARRY
Versus: DirecTV 604 (HD), Dish 9468 (HD), Cox 67 (SD Only)
FSN West: DirecTV 652 (HD), Dish 367 (HD), Cox 49 (SD Only)
Prime Ticket: DirecTV 653 (HD), Dish 361 (HD), Cox 50 (SD Only)

And of course Center Ice has several channels of HD on DirecTV and Dish.

A Strange occurence today. I wonder if anyone else noticed this?
I own a digital clock, which hangs on the wall, is never touched and which receives its time signal from an observatory in Colorado. That clock is accurate to within 1/64 of a second.
My Cox Cable box also displays the time, and usually the two devices are ABSOLUTELY IN SYNC.
When I awoke early this morning, I noticed that the Cable Box was EXACTLY one minute behind the Atomic Clock. This is not an earth shaking event, but it did puzzle me.
Every so often throughout the day (watching football and the WS) I would glance up at each device and the Box was STILL one minute behind the Atomic Clock.
But Lo and Behold at EXACTLY 12:13AM this morning (Sunday) the Cable Box "caught up with" the Atomic Clock. Can anybody explain this? Or is it just another example of the exemplary dependable service provided by the good folks at Cox? (cough-cough).

Proof positive that COX is behind the times!