Thanks. :)

- Trip

Anyone notice that Fox 5-1 & CW 6-1 are scrambling their signals to Cox when cable is wired directly to the TV? While I get the full package and the channels come in fine on the DVR, when I use the TV tuner to select those 2 channels I get a "scrambled signal" message on my screen & no picture or audio. NBC, ABC, & CBS are still OK. Doesn't this violate the FCC clear channel mandate or are they exempt with the HD version?

Anyone notice that Fox 5-1 & CW 6-1 are scrambling their signals to Cox when cable is wired directly to the TV? While I get the full package and the channels come in fine on the DVR, when I use the TV tuner to select those 2 channels I get a "scrambled signal" message on my screen & no picture or audio. NBC, ABC, & CBS are still OK. Doesn't this violate the FCC clear channel mandate or are they exempt with the HD version?

A friend of mine had this problem the other day, 5-1, 6-1 disappeared from the clear QAM list. He rescanned the channel list and the channels came back. Your TV might be remembering what channel they were on (channels as in 6MHz block, not numeric id) and then tuning to that channel to find encrypted channels that have taken their place.

If you didn't know it, Telemundo is showing their inagural HD presentation of the Latin Billboard Music Awards, and wow, the PQ is fantastic! Take a look if you get a chance (it ends at 11:00) and see what network HD looks like before it gets watered down to what the big four are doing...

vegggas

I saw 2 minutes of it earlier and The ladies looked pretty good.

Can I get a TSReader capture of KBLR? I'm hearing there was Mobile DTV on it earlier in the week, if there isn't any now...

- Trip

doormat: Thank for the tip. Yes, the re-scan picked up the new channels for Fox & CW.

What a GREAT forum.

No posts for almost 4 days

I guess it has to do with the scintillating conversation provided by forum members.

You havent graced us with your presence in almost a month and yet you complain about the lack of posts.Now that you have returned, I imagine the forum will return to to its normal scintillating self.

What a GREAT forum.

No posts for almost 4 days

I guess it has to do with the scintillating conversation provided by forum members.


Scintillating - not currently
Scathing - WMD (err, Word Maestro Delivered)
Scatalogically tinged retort for item 2 - uhhh...almost.


I'm still waiting for Weather Channel HD. Any ideas what this channel is tied to in regards to contracts for Cox to carry?

I'll liven up the forum:

GROWN UP MEN WATCHING OTHER GROWN UP MEN PLAY SPORTS ON HDTV IS GAY.

COX SUCKS

BASEBALL SUCKS

DISH RULES

there :D

foghorn2,

You seem to know alot about "sucking"
Are you experienced in that endeavor?

foghorn2,

You seem to know alot about "sucking"
Are you experienced in that endeavor?

Yep, us roosters get alot of that from those hens :p

Back to topic....

I've been quiet because I'm in a Boxee world full of media I want to watch, not what the gods above want me to watch. I'm no longer with any pay tv provider and strictly OTA and Boxee. Its a wonderful world here, maybe some day you will join us.....but NO BASEBALL!

This is why pay-tv is no longer in my home:

My Boxee Box:

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http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/foghorn2/bbback.jpg

My new Boxee Box:

Rosewill HTPC Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147098)
Asus HTPC MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131354)
AMD Energy Savings Processor 45w (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103255)
DVICO Fusion 5 Gold (http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Products/RTGold.aspx)

Foghorn, what exactly has Boxee to do with this thread? I realize that it has some capabilities for HD, but it is quite limited as you must have a lot of processing horsepower for the decoding via your CPU. You seem to be enraptured with your new toy that even a FREE service like Hulu doesn't want any part of. Once again, how is Boxee at this point relevant to this thread?

Boxee isn't relative to this thread but it does give Foghorn2 something to talk about and possibly brag about. Remember, he LOVES to hear himself talk.

The 2 of you like to talk to each other!

Its all relevant. HDTV does not require a pay service for most. And my box does just that.

Does anyone on here have experience with a Directv install with the single wire multi-switch? I know in the past they had to run a line from the dish to each reciever box, but now they can do it on one wire. Any experience on how this works would be appreciated. I am doing 3 HD DVR's and 2 regular boxes.

Does anyone on here have experience with a Directv install with the single wire multi-switch? I know in the past they had to run a line from the dish to each reciever box, but now they can do it on one wire. Any experience on how this works would be appreciated. I am doing 3 HD DVR's and 2 regular boxes.

The single wire multiswitch (SWM) that is used with D* allows you to run just one cable to each dvr. The most commonly used is the SWM-8 which allows you to connect up to 8 TUNERS. Each HD dvr has two tuners. So in your case, you would be at the limit: 3 HD dvrs plus two receivers would equal 8 tuners.
Now to describe the connections:
The four cables from your dish would connect to the SWM. You would also connect the power inserter to the SWM along with a splitter. (The splitter is a high bandwidth type and is not your typical Home Depot product. There are splitters specifically recommended by D*)
From the splitter, which in your case would be an eight way splitter, you would run one cable to each of your dvrs and receivers. You would only use five of the eight outputs, but splitters only come in 2, 4, 8 and, I believe 16 output models.)
As far as I know, if you want to use SWMs, you have to purchase and install them yourself. The last I read, the installer will only run cable through a regular multiswitch which requires two cables to each dvr. After you order your equipment and set up an installation date, you could call Ironwood, which is the local installer and ask if they could install a SWM if you purchased one. If not, you would have to swap out the regular multiswitch for a SWM.
For far more information regarding SWM and other D* equipment, check and search the following sites:
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=112
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=118
The people are very friendly and can answer any possible question you may come up with.
Good Luck,
Rick
ps; you can generally find good to excellent deals on SWMs on e-bay. A really good price will be around $100 for the SWM, power inserter and a recommended splitter.

I noticed that the Cox site now says that you get the local networks in HD with the digital TV plan. They used to say it was free with any cable plan even the most basic $13 pkg. Anyone know the real story here? Does the FCC mandate the carriage of HD local channels for MSOs?

Thanks in advance.

All my other "free" digital channels (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, etc.) are working fine. When I go to 5.1, 5.2, or 6.1 my Pioneer Kuro pro-111fd gives the message "Barred from watching this Conditional Access program."

I called Cox Cable earlier today and was told that they were switching the channel(s) on Fox channel 705 and 706 for Digital subscribers but could not tell me how this would affect 5.1 or 5.2 and offered no timeframe for a fix.

Anyone have the inside scoop? Thanks.
Seconds ago, I just noticed that BS on my 5020 Kuro for the first time! :confused: I did a search and found this webpage. I updated the firmware months ago to the latest version. The TV has not been powered up for several weeks. All the channels are normal, except for three which happen to be on the OTA UHF band. But it's hooked up to (Cox) cable without any STB. I never had any issue getting these channels before. These are basic cable channels, NBC, PBS and some local channel, and on the DTV side.

I re-scanned, and now I'm able to receive them again, but the channel #'s are the same. So this makes no sense to me.

I can confirm that COX unencrypted qam seems to be having problems. In particular FOXHD seems to be the worst of all as of late.

I am using 2 HDHomerun tv tuners (4 open qam tuners) to supply a half dozen tv's throughout the house. I had thought that I was having some sort of problem on my end. Tonight I noticed that 24 (FOX) never even came on. It was dark throughout the entire night.

Can anyone confirm this?

Hello to everyone by the way . . . I recently moved out here from Texas . . .
Good to see there is some chatter in this thread.

i can say that this is still happening over a month since your post here.
monday night fringe playback died and i had to download the episode... fox 5 news was also screwed up and that is NOT in HD. you could hear audio but no video.

ya, that fringe broadcast was totally f----- up!

I am a newbie. I recently purchased an LCD TV and I'm an OTA type.
I've spent quite a bit of time searching fruitlessly for a solution, so please forgive this question if you've seen it before. Hopefully, someone has solved this problem: I live in Summerlin; 23 miles from the transmitters. I have a clear unobstructed view of all of the transmitters from my second-floor window.
The old rabbit ears didn't work, and the plug-in (boosted?) rabbit ears didn't work either. Next I bought an Antennas Direct DB2:

amazon.com/Antennas-Direct-DB2-Directional-Antenna/dp/B000EHUE7I/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_1_0

I have mounted it in the window-bay outside my window. I aimed it with a clear line of sight right between the two clusters of transmitters at 120 degrees.

While the reception is improved, I cannot get KVBC Channel 3.1 and the analog is snowy, while I can get the FOX affiliate 5.1 feed (and analog) which is supposed to be right in the same place.

Have I bought another wrong antenna? Should I try mounting it higher? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

KVBC is on the worst possible channel for digital broadcasts. Channel 2 suffers from the most interference from electrical devices and needs a huge (102" wide is ideal) receiving element. Your choices are either (a) get cable and use a QAM tuner (b) get a real VHF/UHF combo antenna and put it up on the roof (c) don't watch KVBC, and let them know why you aren't watching. They had the option to elect to move to one of something like 35 other channels after the analog shutoff, but decided to be cheap and stay on 2.

If you go with (b), make sure you get a real antenna that is designed to cover the entire band. Some have reported success with the Monoprice antenna (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10901&cs_id=1090102&p_id=4730&seq=1&format=2) but I'm a bit skeptical of its performance on channel 2.

I am a newbie. I recently purchased an LCD TV and I'm an OTA type.
I've spent quite a bit of time searching fruitlessly for a solution, so please forgive this question if you've seen it before. Hopefully, someone has solved this problem: I live in Summerlin; 23 miles from the transmitters. I have a clear unobstructed view of all of the transmitters from my second-floor window.
The old rabbit ears didn't work, and the plug-in (boosted?) rabbit ears didn't work either. Next I bought an Antennas Direct DB2:

amazon.com/Antennas-Direct-DB2-Directional-Antenna/dp/B000EHUE7I/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_1_0

I have mounted it in the window-bay outside my window. I aimed it with a clear line of sight right between the two clusters of transmitters at 120 degrees.

While the reception is improved, I cannot get KVBC Channel 3.1 and the analog is snowy, while I can get the FOX affiliate 5.1 feed (and analog) which is supposed to be right in the same place.

Have I bought another wrong antenna? Should I try mounting it higher? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I would recommend trying the Channel Master 3010 Stealth antenna (looks like a flying V). I also live in Summerlin (out by Charleston and the 215) and I have one mounted to my back wall. It's not perfectly pointing to the transmitters but I'm able to get all of the digital major channels including KVBC. I disabled the subchannels because I don't like them, but I remember seeing them when I set up.

There's occasional low signal/stuttering errors. It could be related to the rest of my setup (Windows Media Center and HDHomeRun) but I haven't bothered trying to fix it as it's good enough for me.

I don't think they sell the Stealth antenna locally. I got mine from Amazon.

Has anyone tried to get 1394 Firewire enabled on any Cox STB recently?

For those OTA viewers, and others interested, our local Las Vegas TBN translator silenced their analog service this past week and did a flash cut to digital. Operating both actual and virtual on channel 41, K41IO-LD, is only broadcasting, for now, with TBN Enlace on the main channel with no sub-channels. They most likely will add the full roster of five channels usually found on other TBN stations around the nation in the near future.

I haven't seen any Cox updates from Mallah or Vegggas in quite a while. Any news on upcoming HD channels? How about the new DVR guide software being discussed in the Cox HDTV thread? Cox has said that rollout will begin at the end of the summer/beginning of fall this year. Will Vegas be a part of that this year?

Did Cox update software in their boxes last night 8300HD DVR? Channel surfing between HD and SD now changes the output mode ie. 1080i > 480p, resulting in HDMI problems with my TV. Screen pauses for several seconds between channel change and screen becomes "static" sometimes after changing from SD channel to HD channel. I used to have the box set to output 1080i only and have the box do the upconvert for SD, worked nicely for several years. Now I can't seem to get it programmed right.

It seems the output modes in the settings menu have changed ie. HDMI/DMI, Upconvert-1, Upconvert-2, Fixed. It seems Upconvert-1 now outputs 1080i for HD and 480P for SD, used to just output the 1080i. I changed setting to Fixed and all seems fine again. As usual the Cox phone support was clueless to any of this did the usual reboots and wanted to set up a service call.

For those OTA viewers, and others interested, our local Las Vegas TBN translator silenced their analog service this past week and did a flash cut to digital. Operating both actual and virtual on channel 41, K41IO-LD, is only broadcasting, for now, with TBN Enlace on the main channel with no sub-channels. They most likely will add the full roster of five channels usually found on other TBN stations around the nation in the near future.

Thanks for the OTA DTV Update. Did a rescan and I was able to pick up K41IO. It will be nice to eventually have five more OTA Digital Channels even though I likely will not be watching much of any of them!

For those interested about the DTV status of VegasTV, I learned KTUD-LD will be on the air sometime in September. They will continue analog OTA broadcasts on Channel 25 until KTUD-LD signs on.

It will be interesting to see if they're able to reach Digital OTA Viewers and get them to rescan their boxes come September. I'm a Digital TV 'enthusiast' and yet I had to be reminded to rescan to pick up K41IO-LD.

Is anyone having problems with USA-HD and CNBC-HD on Cox? On my mom's TiVo she can't tune either of these on either cablecard (she has 2 in the TiVo). All the other channels seem fine (or at least the ones we watch).

I have a tivo hd with 1 m cable card and I can tune to both channels just fine. It could be a problem with the tivo beyond that I don't know what to tell you.

Only 3 days away from the greastest panic in the history of Las Vegas. That's when all those folks (who bought DT converter boxes and that nifty UHF antenna for all our VHF network stations) find they can't get chs. 3, 5, 8, 10, and 13 worth a crap. Please stand by.

Nothing like some good ol FUD to liven things up. It's not like things are changing dramatically from how they are now. The network stations have been on VHF since the beginning, so it should come as no surprise to anyone when they continue to be on VHF.

Switch to Direct TV. Include HD locals. Solve all problems in one fell swoop.

Cox sucks. Always has. Always will

......
Cox sucks. Always has. Always will

I've been told you do that well.

Actually, go OTA becasue its free and the PQ is better than Dish, Cox or Erect TV.

"Coming July 28, 2009 Disney Channel HD and ABC Family HD to Cox Communications HD Customers!

Disney Channel HD (728) delivers today’s hottest original series and movies for kids and families. With breakout hits like Hannah Montana and entertainment sensations like High School Musical 2, Disney Channel HD presents hit shows and Television events that kids love and parents trust.

ABC Family HD (759) features programming reflecting today’s families, all told with diversity, dysfunction, humor, passion and heart. Now you can watch your favorite ABC Family shows, movies and holiday events in high definition!"

KGNG 47.4 has replaced their movie marathon with RTN. This could be the start of something big.

KGNG 47.4 has replaced their movie marathon with RTN. This could be the start of something big.

Yep, forget about paytv and the crappy TVland, what a joke.
Imagine paying for TV and still getting commercials, esp viagra or other legalized drugs commercials.

Survivors: Las Vegas Analogs

8 am Saturday 13 June 2009

5 KVVU (night light service ends 26 Jun 2009)
17 KEEN
19 KHDF
23 KLVD
25 KTUD
27 KELV
28 KVPX
30 KEGS
31 KNBX
35 KVTE
43 K43FO
46 K46GX-TX //KLAS
47 KGNG
50 KLSV

KTUD-25 is suggesting they will transition to digital in September. KEGS-30 has aired promos as recently as this past month stating they will go digital in June with several streams of programming. K43FO is expected to transition as some future date using virtual designations of 73.1 thru 73.4 for their services. That's what they are doing nationally. I suspect it's "73", as in ham radio talk.

KVPX-28 has laid claim, and will transition, to channel 6.1. KLSV-50 is expected to ignite their digital service in the future with five streams of programming.

KGNG originally hinted on their website that they would offer up to six streams of programming.

KHMP-18.1, Pahrump, is expected to cover many parts of the Las Vegas Valley when they begin digital service from their 8000 foot plus Mt. Potosi site.

This TV netlet should appear soon in Las Vegas on Sinclair station KVCW or KVMY, if rumors hold true.

73-x is religious.

- Trip

"Coming July 28, 2009 Disney Channel HD and ABC Family HD to Cox Communications HD Customers!

Disney Channel HD (728) delivers today’s hottest original series and movies for kids and families. With breakout hits like Hannah Montana and entertainment sensations like High School Musical 2, Disney Channel HD presents hit shows and Television events that kids love and parents trust.

ABC Family HD (759) features programming reflecting today’s families, all told with diversity, dysfunction, humor, passion and heart. Now you can watch your favorite ABC Family shows, movies and holiday events in high definition!"

Great news I knew we would get these two channels soon but where did you find out I have looked at my bill and the cox website and couldn't find the news anywhere.

When will Cox provide MLB-EI in HD?

Don't they think anyone in Las Vegas loves baseball?

73-x is religious.

- Trip

God will always be on the airwaves.

So what does the digital switch look like for the antenna folk out there? Does KVBC look OK on RF2? What about the other channels?

Great news I knew we would get these two channels soon but where did you find out I have looked at my bill and the cox website and couldn't find the news anywhere.

I think I read it in a newsletter email? cant remember for sure.

According to the KGNG website, the movies that were bumped to make room for Retro TV will return soon on 47.5.

Is KTNV (ABC) still broadcasting? I can't pick them up OTA now. 0 signal. I could before with the same antenna. Did they change to a different frequency?

God will always be on the airwaves.

..as long as there is a buck to be made...

Is KTNV (ABC) still broadcasting? I can't pick them up OTA now. 0 signal. I could before with the same antenna. Did they change to a different frequency?

KTNV was using RF channel 12 before the switch, and has since reverted to RF channel 13. You may need to do a manual rescan.

I had to re-scan to find ABC also. I now get KVBC (NBC), which I had couldn't get at all before, but it's perfect now.

I'm loving Retro TV on KGNG; now if we can get one of the locals to add THIS TV to one of their subs.....

Hey everybody. I have Cox Cable Internet and basic cable (2-17), and I live around Durango and Tropicana. I've scanned for clear QAM's with Widows Media Center and a few other PCTV programs with very little success. WMC picked up like 5 channels. My questions are these:

Could it be that I have a weak cable TV signal?
Aren't the channels supposed to be there (many more than 5)?
Is there a way that I can test the strength of my cable TV signal?

I have tried OTA and had little success as well. Maybe my neighborhood just sucks. I am considering something that can tune QAM channels like a VCR/DVD combo, DVR or set top box or something. My goal is to be able to view the HD QAM channels that come through Cox basic cable.

Thanks

We've all seen the DTV Infomercials that aired prior to the switch, and are still being aired on the night light stations, like KVVU analog 5 in Henderson. There's an elderly lady portrayed in one that questions if she can receive Jack Benny again with a new converter box. She can if she watches RTV on KGNG 47.4 Sunday nights at 10pm. The producers of those DTV Informercials must have been psychic.

I had to re-scan to find ABC also. I now get KVBC (NBC), which I had couldn't get at all before, but it's perfect now.

I'm loving Retro TV on KGNG; now if we can get one of the locals to add THIS TV to one of their subs.....

Keep watching KVCW and KVMY, both of which are Sinclair Broadcasting stations. Sinclair signed an aggreement to carry This TV on their stations nationwide. One or the other of our two Sinclair stations should have it soon.....hopefully.

It's not all Sinclair stations. There's no telling whether it will end up on KVMY or KVCW or not.

Actually, I'm surprised This is not on KVBC 3-2, since it has sister stations airing This TV and Universal Sports.

- TRip

BBC America HD starts broadcasting July 20.

Has anyone heard any news if or when Cox will pick up this station? Looks to have some good HD programming...

http://www.press.bbcamerica.com/press/programoverview.jsp?program_id=102

I'm still waiting on when Vegas will add HBO2 and Encore in HD. Many other Cox markets now have them.....but not Vegas.

BBC America HD starts broadcasting July 20.

Has anyone heard any news if or when Cox will pick up this station? Looks to have some good HD programming...

http://www.press.bbcamerica.com/press/programoverview.jsp?program_id=102

An HTPC, Boxee and VPN can get the real BBC, not the fake watered down american version, boobies and all :D

I am moving to the Vegas area in September & want to know what services can I get in terms of HD channels? I am living in Chicago right now & got ridden of Comcast or 'Comcrap' & don't want Cox or any other cable provider. Any suggestions for a soon to be Vegas local?

I am moving to the Vegas area in September & want to know what services can I get in terms of HD channels? I am living in Chicago right now & got ridden of Comcast or 'Comcrap' & don't want Cox or any other cable provider. Any suggestions for a soon to be Vegas local?

Rabbit ears, rooftop antenna and STB or HTPC with HD tuner.

Cox, DirecTV, or Dish Network are your pay TV choices. DirecTV is strongly suggested if you care about sports in any way.

I am moving to the Vegas area in September & want to know what services can I get in terms of HD channels? I am living in Chicago right now & got ridden of Comcast or 'Comcrap' & don't want Cox or any other cable provider. Any suggestions for a soon to be Vegas local?

I am quite happy with the service from Cox. They provide all of the local HD channels. They have a decent selection of HD channels...and their internet is still the best in town, hands down. DSL is quite poor in comparison.

Now if you are a sports fan...DirecTV is the way to go.

I am quite happy with the service from Cox. They provide all of the local HD channels.

Cox fails to deliver KINC-DT Univision and KVMY-DT My Network TV. Missing from their line-up of local stations are about 10 other local Las Vegas channels available OTA either in analog or digital. It's very doubtful that Cox will ever carry all of the local Las Vegas channels.

KVVU analog channel 5 in Henderson snuffed out their nightlight service about midnight this morning, bringing to a close VHF analog TV in the Las Vegas Valley. There is still a significant amount of UHF analog channels available for a while longer.

I am moving to the Vegas area in September & want to know what services can I get in terms of HD channels? I am living in Chicago right now & got ridden of Comcast or 'Comcrap' & don't want Cox or any other cable provider. Any suggestions for a soon to be Vegas local?



Quote:Originally Posted by Demodave:
I am quite happy with the service from Cox. They provide all of the local HD channels. (end quote)

Cox fails to deliver KINC-DT Univision and KVMY-DT My Network TV. Missing from their line-up of local stations are about 10 other local Las Vegas channels available OTA either in analog or digital. It's very doubtful that Cox will ever carry all of the local Las Vegas channels.

I wanted to jump in here and clarify something for our out of town requestor.

Cox DOES provide all of the local HD channels that provide HD content, including all of the major networks of ABC-HD, CBS-HD, NBC-HD, FOXHD, PBS-HD and even The CW-HD and Telemundo-KBLRHD Networks and all of their Digital subchannels.
KINC-DT (Univision) is NOT an HD channel and is only transmitting a digitally encoded version of their old analog signal, which is available on cox as channel 15.
KVMY, the local My Network TV channel owned by Sinclair Media has had the capability to transmit in HD, but there are very few, if any HD broadcasts as a majority of their programming is based on syndicated reruns that are only available as SD programming. The programming is available on Cox channel 12. NOTES: I heard that they do sometimes broadcast the WWE wrestling show Smackdown on Fridays in HD, but that it is hit or miss whether it will be in HD or not. It is also noted that Sinclair has requested a carriage fee for every subscriber for this channel to be rebroadcast on Cox as a digital channel.
For the rest of the "local" channels available with an antenna, most of them are extremely low power analog channels and Mountaintop analog translators for Pahrump and Laughlin outside of Las Vegas area. Most of these channels are available only with a rooftop antenna if you are close enough to the transmitter, although some neighborhoods may pick them up with simple loop antenna if they are within a few miles of the transmit site. If you want more information, you can go to antennweb.org and drop in various zipcodes to see basic profiles in the City. Most of the transmitters are located in the Southern part of the valley and those in the northern part of the valley may have difficulty picking up the weaker or low frequency channels (NBC is on RF 2).

Nice to see u around, Vegggas!

the chicken and old man do nothing but drive me crazy

PT

Can you get the digital sub channels with a cable box?

Can you get the digital sub channels with a cable box?

Yes! Most of them as far as I know.
Actually with PBS, You can get more of the sub channels on Cox than OTA.
Here is a quick rundown of locals on Cox channels as far as I can tell based on channels transmitting with sub channels.

KVBC [NBC]
003 = NBC Analog
703 = NBC Digital HD 2.1 local and network combined programming
123 = NBC Digital SD 2.2 local programming main feed
127 = NBC Digital SD 2.3 (NBC Universal sports)

KVVU [FOX]
005 = FOX Analog
125 = Fox Digital SD 5.2 weather

KLAS [CBS]
008 = CBS Analog
708 = CBS Digital HD 8.1
128 = CBS Digital SD 8.1 (x-convert)
129 = CBS Digital SD 8.2 (LA TV)

KLVX [PBS]
010 = PBS Analog
710 = PBS Digital HD 10.1
112 = PBS Digital SD 10.2 Create
113 = PBS Digital SD 10.3 V-Me
114 = PBS Digital SD 10.4 Worldview
355 = PBS Digital SD 10.5 Sprout

KTNV [ABC]
013 = Analog ABC
713 = Digital HD 13.1
122 = Digital SD 13.1 (x-convert)
121 = Digital SD 13.2 Mexicanal

KINC [Univision]
015 = Analog Univision
132 = Digital SD 15.2 Telefutura

There are a lot of other local channels scattered throughout the lineup for the one off's and for channels that don't broadcast on their own towers. many of those can be found between 100 and 200 and in various tiers.
You can go to Titan TV and match up almost all of the channels seen there to a channel on Cox.

vegggas

Veggas Thanks for the info

I wanted to jump in here and clarify something for our out of town requestor.

Cox DOES provide all of the local HD channels that provide HD content, including all of the major networks of ABC-HD, CBS-HD, NBC-HD, FOXHD, PBS-HD and even The CW-HD and Telemundo-KBLRHD Networks and all of their Digital subchannels.
KINC-DT (Univision) is NOT an HD channel and is only transmitting a digitally encoded version of their old analog signal, which is available on cox as channel 15.
KVMY, the local My Network TV channel owned by Sinclair Media has had the capability to transmit in HD, but there are very few, if any HD broadcasts as a majority of their programming is based on syndicated reruns that are only available as SD programming. The programming is available on Cox channel 12. NOTES: I heard that they do sometimes broadcast the WWE wrestling show Smackdown on Fridays in HD, but that it is hit or miss whether it will be in HD or not. It is also noted that Sinclair has requested a carriage fee for every subscriber for this channel to be rebroadcast on Cox as a digital channel.
For the rest of the "local" channels available with an antenna, most of them are extremely low power analog channels and Mountaintop analog translators for Pahrump and Laughlin outside of Las Vegas area. Most of these channels are available only with a rooftop antenna if you are close enough to the transmitter, although some neighborhoods may pick them up with simple loop antenna if they are within a few miles of the transmit site. If you want more information, you can go to antennweb.org and drop in various zipcodes to see basic profiles in the City. Most of the transmitters are located in the Southern part of the valley and those in the northern part of the valley may have difficulty picking up the weaker or low frequency channels (NBC is on RF 2).


KINC and KVMY may have little or no HD content at the present. Cox still does not carry their digital services or sub-channel in the case of KINC.

I was not referring to any "locals" from Laughlin or Pahrump. I was referring to local Las Vegas channels available in almost all areas of the Las Vegas Valley, with a few exceptions. Almost all of these low powered stations are Las Vegas locals providing a service to their viewers, but are denied carriage on our cable system, Cox. Why? Because Cox does't think their subscribers should have cable access to them, unless those stations pay Cox a fee for carriage. That's the case for at least two of the LP operations in our town.

Ask a Cox Customer Rep if their company provides all of the Las Vegas locals, and they'll rspond wrongfully with a cheerful "Yes".

Until such time as the FCC requires cable companies to carry all stations within a market, high and low powered, as it should be, cable companies, Cox included, will continue to mislead customers about which local channels they provide their unknowing subscribers.

LP stations aren't afforded any sort of protections when it comes to broadcast, why should it be any different for cable? They don't even have the right to the channel they broadcast on unless granted a Class A license, so why waste limited cable bandwidth carrying a bunch of shopping and religious channels no one cares about? Yes, there are occasionally a few decent services that end up on LP, but unless there is demand to warrant the carriage, it's not going to happen.

KINC has 0 HD content given that they only broadcast in 480i. KINCDT2 carries Telefutura, which I see on Cox's website as available on channel 64. As for KVMY, Sinclair's payment demands have been well-documented over the last few years, and Cox is certainly free to make the decision that the lack of customer demand outweighs the costs associated with adding the channel. I'll also point out that both D* and E* only carry the big 4 networks in HD in Las Vegas, so Cox's carriage of PBS, CW, and Telemundo HD puts them ahead in that aspect, not to mention all the subchannels which aren't available on satellite at all.

KINC and KVMY may have little or no HD content at the present. Cox still does not carry their digital services or sub-channel in the case of KINC.
Yes they do - See my previous post where they carry all the sub channels of local stations. Specifically, the digital sub channel of KINC 15.2 is on Cox 132. Some low power channels are carried and scattered throughout the lineup, but my previous post was about stations with subchannels only.

LP stations aren't afforded any sort of protections when it comes to broadcast, why should it be any different for cable? They don't even have the right to the channel they broadcast on unless granted a Class A license, so why waste limited cable bandwidth carrying a bunch of shopping and religious channels no one cares about? Yes, there are occasionally a few decent services that end up on LP, but unless there is demand to warrant the carriage, it's not going to happen.

KINC has 0 HD content given that they only broadcast in 480i. KINCDT2 carries Telefutura, which I see on Cox's website as available on channel 64. As for KVMY, Sinclair's payment demands have been well-documented over the last few years, and Cox is certainly free to make the decision that the lack of customer demand outweighs the costs associated with adding the channel. I'll also point out that both D* and E* only carry the big 4 networks in HD in Las Vegas, so Cox's carriage of PBS, CW, and Telemundo HD puts them ahead in that aspect, not to mention all the subchannels which aren't available on satellite at all.
I failed to earlier see the KINC subchannel also as an analog channel on 64, but I did post the Digital version on 132.

vegggas

In case anyone was wondering, Fox 5 has their News Studio and in house equipment broadcasting in HD now. Hopefully this will end their 'cut in' logo breaks going to SD during national broadcasts and screwing up the shows.

vegggas

Fox stations currently have no way to overlay local content on the network HD feed with the exception of the bug in the bottom right corner and the legal ID normally shown at the top of the hour. If the station is dropping to SD for the legal ID, they shouldn't be, since the splicer is 100% capable of doing it in HD. If the station engineers don't know how to configure that, then they should contact Fox's affiliate engineering group.

As for overlays like news promos and weather warnings, support for that is reportedly coming sometime next year as an update to the new splicer system going out to affiliates now.

In case anyone was wondering, Fox 5 has their News Studio and in house equipment broadcasting in HD now. Hopefully this will end their 'cut in' logo breaks going to SD during national broadcasts and screwing up the shows.

vegggas

Caught it at 5am this morning. Nothing to write home about that's for sure. Nice to have all four nets in LV broadcasting local news in HD though.

Fox stations currently have no way to overlay local content on the network HD feed with the exception of the bug in the bottom right corner and the legal ID normally shown at the top of the hour. If the station is dropping to SD for the legal ID, they shouldn't be, since the splicer is 100% capable of doing it in HD. If the station engineers don't know how to configure that, then they should contact Fox's affiliate engineering group.

As for overlays like news promos and weather warnings, support for that is reportedly coming sometime next year as an update to the new splicer system going out to affiliates now.

Our station would drop to SD for the Legal ID at odd times during the broadcasts. When I last talked to them, they knew how to drop in an HD Legal ID, but they didn't have the equipment in the studio to create and broadcast that into the splicer. Hopefully with the upgrade just done and being shown, they will now have an HD Legal ID that can be inserted correctly during network broadcast. We will know tonight whether it has been done or not.

vegggas

No equipment needed, they simply upload the appropriate bmp files to Fox's FTP site and notify the Fox TOC who handle transferring the logos to the splicer. The station can then activate it by means of an input pin on the splicer. It's probably the least complex part of what goes into getting a broadcast on the air.;).

No equipment needed, they simply upload the appropriate bmp files to Fox's FTP site and notify the Fox TOC who handle transferring the logos to the splicer. The station can then activate it by means of an input pin on the splicer. It's probably the least complex part of what goes into getting a broadcast on the air.;).
They did have a local KVVU 16x9 HD graphic on the network shows, but would drop to SD to show a 4x3 safe area graphic at the same time, then snap back to HD.
They didn't figure it out back then, and they haven't figured it out with new equipment tonight either.
Took a snapshot with the phone of the "old local 16x9" graphic they have always had, and they still dropped to SD to show their "new, cleaner SD Graphic". They are still dropping to SD to show this "4x3 safe" graphic.
This was taken tonight on the Idol Remembers Michael Jackson Tribute that was in HD , but dropped to SD several time to show the SD graphic.

vegggas

Perhaps if enough viewers contacted them and complained about it, or if one who has good contacts in the market suggested a phone call to affiliate engineering they might be able to fix it :D. Some examples of correctly done legal IDs I've run across:
KSAZ Phoenix
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=146716&d=1246343167

WNYW New York
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=146717&d=1246343167

WTXF Philadelphia
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=146718&d=1246343167

I watched the Fox 5 10pm news broadcast on Monday night and was impressed to see that all live remote shots, the produced news pieces, and even the weather satellite and radar graphics were all in HD widescreen. The caption graphics all have new "fly-in" animations that looked good.

While watching Idol and the news, I didn't notice any local commercials in HD. I wonder if they can show commercials in HD yet?

Now if they can just figure out that nasty problem with the legal ID's.

July 28, Cox is adding 5 more channels!
NEW! * Disney HD on channel 728! Disney Channel HD delivers today’s hottest original series and movies for kids and families. With breakout hits like Hannah Montana and entertainment sensations like High School Musical 2, Disney Channel HD presents hit shows and television events that kids love and parents trust

NEW! * ABC Family HD channel 759! ABC Family HD features programming reflecting today’s families, all told with diversity, dysfunction, humor, passion and heart. Now you can watch your favorite ABC Family shows, movies and holiday events in high definition!

NEW! ** HBO2 HD on channel 801! HBO2 is the 2nd Home of HBO; a second chance to watch your favorite HBO series, movies, and more. And, now you can watch your shows in HD on HBO2 HD!

NEW! † Outdoor Channel on channel 338! Outdoor Channel features quality programming designed to educate and entertain sportsmen of all skill levels. The channel promotes the traditional outdoor activities that are a vital part of our national heritage including fishing, hunting and shooting sports. The programs are designed to appeal to “traditional sportsmen” of all ages with a focus on activities that the entire family can enjoy in the great outdoors!

NEW! †† MTV Jams on channel 373! MTV Jams is a 24 hour digital music channel featuring everything urban, from the best non-stop Rap, R&B and Hip-Hop artists. This music channel is dedicated to playing music videos from today’s hottest Hip-Hop and R&B artists.

According to the online version of the bill I can look at from cox, they are also moving the tvguide channel and mtv2 to digital cable on july 28 as well.

How odd....the TV Guide channel is really only useful for those without digital cable.

How odd....the TV Guide channel is really only useful for those without digital cable.

According to Wikipedia there is a version of the tv guide channel for digital cable that does not have the listings it is just the programing that goes on the regular channel.

July 28, Cox is adding 5 more channels!
NEW! * Disney HD on channel 728! Disney Channel HD delivers today’s hottest original series and movies for kids and families. With breakout hits like Hannah Montana and entertainment sensations like High School Musical 2, Disney Channel HD presents hit shows and television events that kids love and parents trust

NEW! * ABC Family HD channel 759! ABC Family HD features programming reflecting today’s families, all told with diversity, dysfunction, humor, passion and heart. Now you can watch your favorite ABC Family shows, movies and holiday events in high definition!

NEW! ** HBO2 HD on channel 801! HBO2 is the 2nd Home of HBO; a second chance to watch your favorite HBO series, movies, and more. And, now you can watch your shows in HD on HBO2 HD!

NEW! † Outdoor Channel on channel 338! Outdoor Channel features quality programming designed to educate and entertain sportsmen of all skill levels. The channel promotes the traditional outdoor activities that are a vital part of our national heritage including fishing, hunting and shooting sports. The programs are designed to appeal to “traditional sportsmen” of all ages with a focus on activities that the entire family can enjoy in the great outdoors!

NEW! †† MTV Jams on channel 373! MTV Jams is a 24 hour digital music channel featuring everything urban, from the best non-stop Rap, R&B and Hip-Hop artists. This music channel is dedicated to playing music videos from today’s hottest Hip-Hop and R&B artists.


Fine and dandy.
Now where is the MLB-Extra Innings Package in HD??
Why are they less important than the "hottest Hip-Hop and R&B artists"

Fine and dandy.
Now where is the MLB-Extra Innings Package in HD??
Why are they less important than the "hottest Hip-Hop and R&B artists"

Who gives a flying fig about any of those channels. Its all a bunch of crap.
Just because its HD, does not make it good. I'd rather watch Leave it to beaver in pre VHS quality than any of the lousy HD content now days.

I was watching a supposed Science show on the Science Channel, it was so lame compared to "Cosmos" which is basically VHS quality. HD is OVERRATED!!

HIP Hop and "C"RAP music in HD, now that pretty much sums up most HD content today.

What's all this ranting about Hip Hop and Rap in HD? There is no mention of this in HD, only as another digital channel in the lineup along with the outdoor channel.
The HD channels are ABC FamilyHD (Your Leave it to Beaver type of shows:rolleyes:), Disney Channel HD (More of Your Leave it to Beaver type of shows:rolleyes:) and HBO2HD.

I find it amusing that about a year ago, people were all about MORE HD, MORE HD, Who's Got More HD, etc, Now people (Foghorn) are here saying it's all crap, lame or overrated and they would rather watch VHS quality shows. Of course, Foghorn no longer has access to all of these HD channels, so I can understand why he might be bitter :D

vegggas

What's all this ranting about Hip Hop and Rap in HD? There is no mention of this in HD, only as another digital channel in the lineup along with the outdoor channel.
The HD channels are ABC FamilyHD (Your Leave it to Beaver type of shows:rolleyes:), Disney Channel HD (More of Your Leave it to Beaver type of shows:rolleyes:) and HBO2HD.

I find it amusing that about a year ago, people were all about MORE HD, MORE HD, Who's Got More HD, etc, Now people (Foghorn) are here saying it's all crap, lame or overrated and they would rather watch VHS quality shows. Of course, Foghorn no longer has access to all of these HD channels, so I can understand why he might be bitter :D

vegggas

I get plenty of HD, HD that I want to watch, not the crap the providers try to force on me.

Pay TV - the end is near

Is the news on KVCW in HD yet? A viewer (Demodave) reported it wasn't a month ago, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVCW says:

"On August 11, 2007, KVBC became the second station in the Las Vegas market to broadcast its local news in high definition and the KVCW broadcast was included in the upgrade."

[edit] While I'm asking, how about verifying that KTNV, KLAS and KVBC do the news in HD? And if Fox 5 has HD news, what are its call letters?

[re-edit] With the call letters KVVU supplied by doormat (below), I accessed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVVU, which said:
"On June 29, KVVU became the last network station (behind KLAS, KVBC and KTNV) to launch local news in high definition."

I have grown more and more disdained for the HD market and Cox in particular here in LV.

I have been a cox subscriber since CoxHD early days but looking over my current bill I have been looking for alternatives to this semi-monopoly price gauging company. It seems that I pay out of my a** for what appears to be more and more commercial breaks and dismal "fluff" programming as TV has gotten THAT bad. I pay all this money and STILL have to get commercials every 12 minutes?

I have Cox Internet (still best by far in town imo) but looking at the TV portion of my bill I just get frustrated. Spending hours looking for alternatives makes me more frustrated only because DVR is now a requirement for my wife.

Ok, $13 gets you locals only. Yes you also get them in HD. But pay for what is free over the airwaves?? Quite high for little in service that a cheap antenna and stb could grab. BS #1.

Now moving on, I want HD programming. Not just locals but I want all programming in HD as possible because personally I just can't really watch SD anymore. But for what I am paying for this luxury of having ****** programs I never watch (discovery has turned into a "dangerous career reality" channel, I am way beyond the demographs for horrid mind-numbing MTV anymore, etc) I am seriously considering otherwise. Most of what my wife and I watch that I would like to be in HD are on locals 90% of time. The ONLY thing keeping me on CoxHD is ESPN for Monday Football and NFL Network! I watch little TV as it is but NFL is my vice.

So to have these channels in HD I am freakin REQUIRED to be "Cox Expanded" AND "Digital Gateway". This amounts to $38 + $14 for having cox's full HD coverage, $38 of it for 100's of SD channels I could care less about outside occasional channel flipping "see whats on"! BS #2!!

Now don't forget back in BS #1 that I pay #13 for Basic which includes LOCAL HD channels. I pay $14 for HD "gateway" but that robs me of my local channels that are FREE over the air but without antenna/STB/setup time I actually am paying extra for! BS #3!

If I was to cancel all Cox TV stuff and move to Dish, they add on $10 to their already pretty pricey Internet service. BS #4. I pay for a service and that is fine, but since I am not using your other service I am punished an additional 25% on my one service?

There are no DVR's that can get cable and OTA same time other than expensive Tivo. But purchasing would save the $5 month cox charges to rent their buggy DVR (which I have to pull power on once in while and misses one of my programs by "first run new").

I thought about canceling Basic to save $13 and get a OTA setup for locals, but Cox won't let me cancel Basic as it is REQUIRED for cable tv as it is the foundation of Cox cable? BS #.. umm, I lost count...

And I can't find a DVR to record locals OTA and be compatible with Cox cable for the occasional Lifetime my wife watches.

/end rant

KVVU Fox 5 is still switching to SD to add their ID every hour. I noticed it tonight during the MLB All-Star game.

Joe Snelson
VP & Director of Engineering
Meredith Broadcast Group

Meredith owns KVVU. Their email addresses use the firstname.lastname@meredith.com format (don't want to encourage spambots by putting his actual address here). If contacting the station doesn't get anywhere, maybe a few well-worded emails sent to corporate will help move things along. There's no reason why a Fox affiliate should be dropping to SD for a simple legal ID; the splicer is perfectly capable of doing it in HD.

FYI - Rescanned my box and picked up KEEN on 17.1. Looks like they only have one stream up right now...

Yes, KEEN has lit the fuse to their digital service on 17.1 for OTA viewers. Has there been any rumors or announcements about multiple streams of programming?

Is the news on KVCW in HD yet? A viewer (Demodave) reported it wasn't a month ago, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVCW says:

"On August 11, 2007, KVBC became the second station in the Las Vegas market to broadcast its local news in high definition and the KVCW broadcast was included in the upgrade."

[edit] While I'm asking, how about verifying that KTNV, KLAS and KVBC do the news in HD? And if Fox 5 has HD news, what are its call letters?

[re-edit] With the call letters KVVU supplied by doormat (below), I accessed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVVU, which said:
"On June 29, KVVU became the last network station (behind KLAS, KVBC and KTNV) to launch local news in high definition."

I turned on the CW last night at 10 and confirmed that the news broadcast produced by KVBC is still being shown in SD with the black sidebars. No HD news for KVCW. :(

There's no reason why a Fox affiliate should be dropping to SD for a simple legal ID; the splicer is perfectly capable of doing it in HD.

Per KVVU Engineering:

"The New splicer is yet to be installed and the current splicer does not do that."

That screenshot from KSAZ was from season 6 of 24, broadcast in 2007. WNYW's was from a season 3 episode of House, also broadcast in 2007. WTXF's was a recent broadcast of So You Think You Can Dance. In any case, all three are still running on the old splicer. The ability for a station to key a legal ID in HD has been in the old splicer for years, at least dating back to 2005 if not all the way back to the launch of Fox HD in Fall 2004.

Per KVVU Engineering:

"The New splicer is yet to be installed and the current splicer does not do that."

Well I hope they have it installed and running by the time the new season of fringe starts.

According to Steve Schorr at Cox.. tru2way will be in Vegas by the end of the year. Looking forward to 'ditching the box' =)

Thats good, I'm hoping TiVo gets a T2W box out soon. I'd move my S3 upstairs and use the T2W box on my main TV.

can we ditch the lousy slow guide?
come on, can we please enter 2009 here?

cox tech told me "sometime in the fall"
heh

same as last year
and the year before that!

Clearwire Introduces CLEAR(TM) 4G Mobile Internet Service to Las Vegas

http://newsroom.clearwire.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=214419&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1309444&hig

can get a portable usb modem, residential wireless modem, or your own personal hotspot modem that allows several b/g type connections to their network.

I am interested to hear a review from someone here in Las Vegas. How is the actual speed in normal use? How is the coverage across the valley? The price is very fair for what you get. I only wish it was available in more places for when I travel.

I am interested to hear a review from someone here in Las Vegas. How is the actual speed in normal use? How is the coverage across the valley? The price is very fair for what you get. I only wish it was available in more places for when I travel.

i think they have a modem option to get service from sprint network for traveling outside of the vegas area.

I thought the wireless residential modem would be a decent option for those not wanting to give Cox their money. $20/30/40 /month plans available.

Can someone explain this.

Yesterday I rescanned two of my cable connected receivers. The Olevia now displays KMCC Laughlin'Las Vegas on 8.2. It continues to display LATV as 8.2. This is the first I've encountered when a receiver gets two channels to display on the same channel number. But that isn't the problem.

On my small Sharp receiver, LATV displays only on 103.5, and KMCC displays on 8.2. Perhaps the Sharp isn't smart enough to know how to handle two stations displaying on the same freq sub-channel.

I also am curious why COX Cable would have KMCC display to 8.2.

The x-x number is the PSIP data, and Cox is only passing through whatever originates at the station.

The issue of conflicting PSIP data is interesting. I'd tell you to call Cox and notify them that they're passing conflicting PSIP data, but I doubt the CSRs would know what PSIP data is.

If I was to cancel all Cox TV stuff and move to Dish, they add on $10 to their already pretty pricey Internet service. BS #4. I pay for a service and that is fine, but since I am not using your other service I am punished an additional 25% on my one service?
It's designed to keep you from moving to Dish. They do all the math to see how much money you save on TV between DTV and Cox and set their TV+Net discount just high enough so that Cox Internet + Dish costs a little bit more than Cox Internet + Cox TV.

Much like in the casinos, you're dealing with people who already crunched all the numbers and figured out how to come out ahead.

Speaking of Cox, I wish KLVX would stop giving all this exclusive content to Cox. They're publicly funded yet there's no way to get some of their content without having to get into a carriage deal with Cox. Makes me unhappy, as the only thing on Cox I'd really be interested in is WorldView, and while DTV does technically carry it to get it requires some international dish and a ton of money spent.

And I can't find a DVR to record locals OTA and be compatible with Cox cable for the occasional Lifetime my wife watches.


Home Theatre PC. You might want to wait until Windows 7 launches in late October (or find a copy of the Release Candidate given to the public hanging around, which works until Feburary) although Windows Vista will work as well. Set up an antenna and hook it up to an HDHomeRun to handle the OTA portions, and then plug in an analogue PCI tuner and plug the Cox line into the PC. It integrates channels from both sources into one EPG (though it gets it's guide data through the net from Zap2It or some other source, not through the OTA broadcast), switching between OTA and Cox has a few second of a lag but it's decent.

You can also make your DVR hard drive as big as you please and (at least with Vista, 7 maybe later) set up automatic commercial detection and skipping, the kind of feature that would be sued out of existence if it was introduced on a commercial DVR (and was in the case of ReplayTV.)

Combine that with Hulu on your TV for flavour.

The only thing that will kill this setup is if Cox ever goes all-digital, but does anyone here know if that will happen soon?

The x-x number is the PSIP data, and Cox is only passing through whatever originates at the station.

The issue of conflicting PSIP data is interesting. I'd tell you to call Cox and notify them that they're passing conflicting PSIP data, but I doubt the CSRs would know what PSIP data is.

KMCC OTA displays to 32.1, not 8.2. The night before I rescanned, the Sharp displayed KMCC on 101.1 as received via Cox Cable. Therefore, I'm not convinced that it is KMCC that is using a PSIP to display as 8.2.

I also just rescanned my Panasonic DVR. KMCC is displaying on 8.2, while the KLAS LATV service is displaying on 103.5.

KMCC OTA displays to 32.1, not 8.2. The night before I rescanned, the Sharp displayed KMCC on 101.1 as received via Cox Cable. Therefore, I'm not convinced that it is KMCC that is using a PSIP to display as 8.2.

Hmm. I guess it might depend on how Cox gets their signal - if they're getting it OTA then they have to be mangling the PSIP data. But like I said, good luck getting the CSRs to understand. You'd be better off if you called and asked for a higher tier support (or get one of the guys in charge of engineering to email you or call you).

Can someone explain this.

Yesterday I rescanned two of my cable connected receivers. The Olevia now displays KMCC Laughlin'Las Vegas on 8.2. It continues to display LATV as 8.2. This is the first I've encountered when a receiver gets two channels to display on the same channel number. But that isn't the problem.

On my small Sharp receiver, LATV displays only on 103.5, and KMCC displays on 8.2. Perhaps the Sharp isn't smart enough to know how to handle two stations displaying on the same freq sub-channel.

I also am curious why COX Cable would have KMCC display to 8.2.

I've also heard KMCC has been having a hard time passing their PSIP information to COX and I know they were up at their transmitter site a few weeks ago working on the issue. Looks like they still have some work to do.

Try e-mailing Cox's Nevada Media contacts listed on the following webpage... you'll likely get a faster response.

http://ww2.cox.com/aboutus/newsroom/media-contacts.cox

Good Luck!

On July 28th we were suppose to get 3 new hd channels but today is the 30 and we have not gotten them to work. When we change to the new channels nothing comes up. We have both a cox HD box and a tivo HD and the problem is the same on both. Is this just us or is cox having problems adding the channels?

On July 28th we were suppose to get 3 new hd channels but today is the 30 and we have not gotten them to work. When we change to the new channels nothing comes up. We have both a cox HD box and a tivo HD and the problem is the same on both. Is this just us or is cox having problems adding the channels?

All 3 of the new HD offerings are working fine here.

I get all the new channels too.

Thank you both so much I called cox and after some trouble shooting over the phone They are sending someone tomorrow afternoon.

which STB do you guys have with cox? just wondering...

Apparently the problem with those 3 channels magically fixed itself before the cable guy came over go figure. And we have a Scientific Atlanta 4240 hdc Explorer box.

I remember when Vegas was one of the leading markets for Cox. Now it seems like we are getting things much later than other Cox territories.

For instance, Phoenix is getting Encore HD, Bio HD, Fox Business News HD, WGN America HD, Tru TV HD, Turner Classic Movies HD, and MSNBC HD.

In other Cox markets, CBS College Sports HD, TMC HD and MoreMax HD are getting added.

I wonder why Cox is not adding these channels to Vegas yet?

I only have one HD DVR from cox for which they charge me 5.25/box rental and 11.95 for dvr service. If I add another HD DVR box, will they charge me another 11.95 for dvr service in addition to the box rental ? in other words, is the DVR service fee a household fee no matter how many boxes you have or is it per box like having to pay digital gateway charges for each box your rent?

If memory serves me right, the charge is per box. I wanted to get a second DVR HD box, but I stopped that plan when confronted with the additional charge. Seems like a household charge would be more reasonable. Not sure exactly what I'm getting extra with the charge that would be justified on a second DVR.

Or at least a discounted fee - TiVo charges $12.99/mo for the first box and $6.99/box thereafter. Or just spend $800 and get a Moxi.

I am up at red rock area just south of sahara and west of 215. I have cox cable now but am considering a hdtv antenna.

I have both apple tv and netflix and only watch fox news and cnn mostly on cable. Will i be able to get fox news and cnn on a hdtv antenna?

Also in the area I live would an indoor antenna work?

Thanks

Rick

I am up at red rock area just south of sahara and west of 215. I have cox cable now but am considering a hdtv antenna.

I have both apple tv and netflix and only watch fox news and cnn mostly on cable. Will i be able to get fox news and cnn on a hdtv antenna?

Also in the area I live would an indoor antenna work?

Thanks

Rick

No the only channels you will get with an antenna is the locals 3,5,8,10,13 and few other ones I can't remember.

You should also be able to get many others, including 21, 25, 33, RetroTV (on KGNG; along with other sub channels) a religous channel and several Spanish language networks.

I am up at red rock area just south of sahara and west of 215. I have cox cable now but am considering a hdtv antenna.

I have both apple tv and netflix and only watch fox news and cnn mostly on cable. Will i be able to get fox news and cnn on a hdtv antenna?

Also in the area I live would an indoor antenna work?

Thanks

Rick

Just so you know, there really is no such thing as an "HDTV Antenna". That is all marketing speak. Any TV antenna can pull down the digital signals. You can try an indoor antenna and see what it pulls in. I'm not that far from you and the indoor antenna I have doesn't really do that great of a job. That doesn't mean it won't work for you. You need to experiment with different ones. Go over to antennaweb.org (http://www.antennaweb.org) to find out what kind of antenna would be right for your area.

And, as mentioned, you're not going to be able to get fox news and CNN OTA. You must subscribe to cable or satellite to get those channels.

"Any" is a bit of an overstatement, since a UHF-only antenna almost certainly won't cut it in the VHF-heavy Las Vegas market. With KVBC on low VHF and the other 3 big networks plus PBS on high VHF, anything short of a big ugly fishbone-style outdoor antenna would leave most potential viewers staring at a "no signal" message. I suppose it isn't any wonder that LV has one of the highest percentages of pay TV subscribers in the country.

"Any" is a bit of an overstatement, since a UHF-only antenna almost certainly won't cut it in the VHF-heavy Las Vegas market.

I said that ANY TV antenna can pull down digital signals. I didn't say that ALL antennas would pull down ALL the signals. So, technically, what I said was correct. You DO NOT need some antenna marked "HDTV" to get digital signals. That was the only point I was trying to make there. Obviously, if you want VHF signals you are going to need an VHF antenna. That should go without saying. ;)


With KVBC on low VHF and the other 3 big networks plus PBS on high VHF, anything short of a big ugly fishbone-style outdoor antenna would leave most potential viewers staring at a "no signal" message.

With the indoor antenna I have (VHF/UHF), all I can get on the VHF band is 3 and 5 and I live at The Lakes, nowhere near the towers. Channel 3 is supposed to be hard to get, but I have no problems getting it. Go figure. I can't get anything above 5 on VHF, and I've tried several antennas. I cannot put anything on the roof (live in condo) so that is not an option. I'm stuck with COX and their pixelated picture.

Obviously, if you want VHF signals you are going to need an VHF antenna. That should go without saying. ;)
Ha. I know a number of TV engineers who might just punch you in the face for saying that :eek:. Never assume anything about DTV reception can go without saying, even in the tech-savvy confines of AVS.

Can someone tell me if Cox is broadcasting the local channels over their system in a format that an ATSC tuner can pic up the local signals (3.1, 5.1, 8.1, etc). I can't tell because everything I currently using has a QAM or NTSC tuner in it.

Thanks
MK

No Cox only uses QAM for the HD channels.

Can someone tell me if Cox is broadcasting the local channels over their system in a format that an ATSC tuner can pic up the local signals (3.1, 5.1, 8.1, etc). I can't tell because everything I currently using has a QAM or NTSC tuner in it.

Thanks
MK

Cable systems don't use ATSC for digital, they use QAM.

Does anyone know if Cox Las Vegas has any plans to add Fox Sports Net HD or Prime Ticket HD to their lineup? Last year I only got about half the Laker games in HD that I would have gotten on Dish, so I am considering switching before this season starts.

D* has several hbo/showtime/starz movie channels in HD. dont know why Cox cant add them by now?

but ...
"COMING SOON!
Coming AUGUST 26, 2009 - your favorite Primetime shows on YOUR time – FREE and On DEMAND on Cox Channel 1."

Does anyone know if Cox Las Vegas has any plans to add Fox Sports Net HD or Prime Ticket HD to their lineup? Last year I only got about half the Laker games in HD that I would have gotten on Dish, so I am considering switching before this season starts.

Might as well switch. I don't see COX adding these anytime soon.

Cox probably out of bandwidth. They already overcompress their signals. They were considering SDV (Switched digital Video) but so far haven't implemented that.

When the heck is Vegas Cox going to get Smithsonian Channel and NASA TV ??? Phoenix has had these channels for a few years now.

Im going to be switching to DirecTV by the end of this year. Ive had enough of Cox and canceled my Phone last month. I'll keep their internet because that is the only good service they offer.

I too am losing faith in Cox being able to bring more HD to Vegas. Really sad that at night the HD channels are infomercials. Does Direct do that too?

Does anyone know if Cox Las Vegas has any plans to add Fox Sports Net HD or Prime Ticket HD to their lineup? Last year I only got about half the Laker games in HD that I would have gotten on Dish, so I am considering switching before this season starts.


Home and Garden HD, cooking HD-get Cox. Sports-HD-DirecTV........period. Took me too long to finally make the switch. Should have done it a long time ago. No brainer.

I too am losing faith in Cox being able to bring more HD to Vegas. Really sad that at night the HD channels are infomercials. Does Direct do that too?

That's what those channels show overnight. It would be the same no matter what provider you have. Are you trying to suggest that COX is pre-empting programming on specific channels to show infomercials? That would be a big, fat NO.

That's what those channels show overnight. It would be the same no matter what provider you have. Are you trying to suggest that COX is pre-empting programming on specific channels to show infomercials? That would be a big, fat NO.

So both Direct and Dish show infomercials on Discovery, Travel, HGTV, Speed National geographic etc after 1am or so at night. What a bummer that is when I get off work and sure would like more HD programming

Those channels choose to sell the time at night; the provider has nothing to do with it. The most a provider would do is replace a few minutes of commercials during each hour of regular programming, which is something that has been happening on the SD channels for years but has only started to make regular appearances on HD channels in the last year due to the additional costs of HD equipment.

So both Direct and Dish show infomercials on Discovery, Travel, HGTV, Speed National geographic etc after 1am or so at night. What a bummer that is when I get off work and sure would like more HD programming

COX, D*, E*, or whoever the provider is DOES NOT ALTER the programming received on ANY channel. You see what EVERYONE else sees. These different channels selling overnight time slots to advertisers has been going on for more than a decade now. COX, or whoever the provider is, only retransmits what they get from the broadcasters. They have absolutely no say as to what is broadcast on any channel. Unfortunately, infomercials are a way of life now and they aren't going away. If you want some HD content to watch at 1am, record some shows and watch them when you come home from work. ;)

DirecTV has local channel 33 KVCW in HD now. It was a nice surprise when I tuned into the Cardinals/Packers game last night.

Per KVVU Engineering:

"The New splicer is yet to be installed and the current splicer does not do that."

According to several sources, the current splicer will do it. Since there is a thread on AVS regarding the new Fox splicers, I posted about the problem with KVVU still falling back to SD to insert the legal ID. Another Fox engineer noticed the post and sent an email to the enginner at Merideth. And the result was positive!!

Keep your eye on KVVU. I have it on good authority that this issue has been corrected ...

Let's hope. ;)

I cant wait I am going to watch house tonight and I hope that this problem with kvvu is fixed.

Guess it still as of the 31st still not fixed oh well perhaps when the new splicer is installed.

Home and Garden HD, cooking HD-get Cox. Sports-HD-DirecTV........period. Took me too long to finally make the switch. Should have done it a long time ago. No brainer.

Probably no chance of them getting the NFL's new Redzone channel then, eh? I suggested they do so, but my DirecTV install is scheduled for this Saturday just in time for the NFL!

Probably no chance of them getting the NFL's new Redzone channel then, eh? I suggested they do so, but my DirecTV install is scheduled for this Saturday just in time for the NFL!

enjoy. there's no better way to watch the NFL if you're a fan or a sports better. that 8 game mix screen is great for keeping track of all the games at once.

I was at Cox office today and took a brochure for OnDemand stuff.

Looks like Playboy Ondemand is coming soon. I just did a Google search and it looks like San Diego subscribers can now get the Playboy channel for a flat $14.99 a month. We are still paying for hour blocks, so soon that will all change.

I dont really care for the porn, but some of their shows look pretty cool.

Looks like KHMP Pahrump is now broadcasting on channel 18.1 from Mt. Potosi.

From Silverado Ranch, I have been able to receive the channel, which appears to have RTV affiliate KPVT-LP Channel 30 on 18.1, KHMP-LP Channel 62 on 18.2, Unknown/Infomercial Loop on 18.3, and Color Bars on 18.4

KNBX-CA and KEGS-LD have been recently acquired by Low Power Broadcaster Mako Communications out of Corpus Christi, TX (Who also own KVPX-LP analog Channel 28 in the Las Vegas Valley), so expect to see new OTA digital stations in the near future (Perhaps more Spanish/Religious, or more ethnic programming?)

Looks like KHMP Pahrump is now broadcasting on channel 18.1 from Mt. Potosi.



Saturday morning I do not find 18.1-4 in my Cimaron and Vegas vicinity. Did yesterday's thunderstorms take them off?

Saturday morning I do not find 18.1-4 in my Cimaron and Vegas vicinity. Did yesterday's thunderstorms take them off?

KHMP-LD is still up as of last night and you should be able to pick them up from Cimmarron and Vegas. Here's their coverage map.

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/LD1263114.jpg

They are not listed on the AntennaWeb.org website yet however I did have to adjust my antenna slightly in order to pull them in.

See http://www.khmp.org/ for more info about their programming.

[QUOTE=LVseller03;17130217]KHMP-LD is still up as of last night and you should be able to pick them up from Cimmarron and Vegas. Here's their coverage map.

QUOTE]

I tried everytrhing possible using my indoor Silver Sensor on Saturday and Sunday to no avail. I couldn't find a signal to trigger the PSIP to register.

A little better luck on Monday. The PSIP registered on the converter box and after a little effort was able to pull in the 4 sub-channels. However, none were stable enough for reliable reception. The meter reading varaied rapidly between 5 and 22. Checking 18.4 and their color bars the audio sounded like Morse Code dits and dahs.

I did notice that the signal occupies a very narrow 2 or 3 degree angle. So aiming from my location is critical.

Today, Wednesday, the signal is nearly stable with no changes to the aim of the antenna from what it was on Monday. Further, the signal stays nearly stable at 25 on the meter. There is still some occasional blocking and audio drops outs, but not objectionable.

I'd seen the service map earlier. I highly suspect that the contour is very speculative and not what one could rely upon for steady reception with an indoor antenna.

I so badly need to get an outdoor antenna for my condo location.

Thanks for your help.

Keep an eye on KVMY 21.2 virtual (22.2 RF) for Hispanic network Estrella. Looks like a probable launch on Monday the 14th.

KVBC needs to get off ch. 2 The break up and audio stutter every time a plane lands or takes off at Mccarran is totally irritating. The problem is amplified ten fold when it is passed on to Directv. The Steelers Titans game tonight is full of audio stutter. Why they chose to stay on the worst frequency on the band is beyond me. Does anyone know why they did not or could not op for a higher frequency?

$$$

For KVBC, history seems to be repeating itself. They started life, with Las Vegas Review Journal call letters and ownership, on channel 2 analog in the 1950's. Years later, citing reception problems, they requested and received permission from the FCC to move to channel 3 analog.

I just dumped Cox altogether (both internet and TV). Although it took a while to get the exact angles and orientation, over-the-air DTV works surprisingly well with a simple $1 rabbit ears type of antenna in my relatively fringe outside the beltway southwest location north of Rhodes Ranch and south of Southern Hills Hospital.

Here are the stations I receive without distortion:

3.1 + 3.2 + 3.3 --- NBC/NBC/US
5.1 + 5.2 --- FOX/LV Weather
8.1 + 8.2 --- CBS/LATV
10.1 + 10.2 + 10.3 --- PBS/Create/V-me
13.1 + 13.2 --- ABC/Mexi
15.1 --- Univision
21.1 --- MyTV
33.1 --- CW
47.1 + 47.2 + 47.3 + 47.4 + 47.5 --- HSN/Korean/CoolTV/RetroTV/Old-Movies

with antenna rotation I also get 15.2, 17.1, and 39.1 but I don't use these anyway

* Non-English stations indicated in red font

I'm back after a very long time away.. some of you may remember I used to work at Sunbelt's KVBC in Las Vegas as Corporate Research Director. (Um.. I was also the guy who denied in-valley DISH & DirecTV Distant Network Signal requests from 1999 until 2006)

I'll be able to comment a bit more openly beginning in January 2010, when I'll no longer be providing professional services to Sunbelt's non-Nevada stations on a daily basis.

Until then, I'll dream of a multi-tuner, two-way CableCard tuner adapter for under $200 now that MS has removed the OEM lock. Cox just got a rescue breath... but if DirecTV comes out with a W7 Media Center certified HD multi-tuner, I'm GONE.

Welcome back Paul!

The development of the new CC tuners is great - that Ceton card with 4 tuners + W7 SDV support looks really good. I'm even thinking about ditching the TiVo HD and going with a W7 HTPC. Combined with my multi-TB WHS box I could archive, rip all my DVDs, BRs, etc (I'd love to see BR managed copy support from MS but we'll see).

Gosh, I hope that Ceton card is going to be $200. Hauppauge is supposed to have a card out by end of the year as well. I might get cable if that happens.

UGH! KVVU, please please please fix that stupid network ID graphic drop to SD problem already. How long has it been? You do know it's 2009, right? That sucked so much during the Giants/Redskins game.

I'm back after a very long time away.. some of you may remember I used to work at Sunbelt's KVBC in Las Vegas as Corporate Research Director. (Um.. I was also the guy who denied in-valley DISH & DirecTV Distant Network Signal requests from 1999 until 2006)


That was you. Why I outa..... at least you weren't at KLAS or KTNV. Those are the stations I can't get OTA. I'm over it now that Directv has the HD locals.

FYI.. looks like one stream for now.

Re: KTUD 25.1. FYI.. looks like one stream for now.

HD or SD?

HD or SD?

Looks like SD for now.

KTUD-LP analog 25 remains on air. The ownership of KTUD is well bankrolled, and as such could do their digital service right with several sub-channels of programming not yet available in the Vegas Valley.

Any bets being placed on whether KTNV will add the HD Live Well Network as a sub-channel in addition to their existing Mexicanal SD sub? Live Well is on the ABC O&O's, and will likely creep into more markets this Fall.

KHMP Pahrump pulled the plug on their analog channel 62 service Friday night (18th) leaving their digital channel 18.1 to better serve the Pahrump and Las Vegas valleys.

Has anyone observed KLSV-LD on channel 50? I have reason to believe that it is either on the air now, or was testing very recently.

- Trip

Has anyone observed KLSV-LD on channel 50? I have reason to believe that it is either on the air now, or was testing very recently.

- Trip

Yes. This Saturday morning KLSV is flexing their digial muscle. Thus far, just the main channel on 50.1 in SD. Hopefully, they'll keep their website promise and launch the sub-channels suggested. They have also silenced their analog service. I have not noticed KLSV testing digital prior to this day.

Not seeing any guide info on OTA channel 25.1. Can anyone else confirm?

Not seeing any guide info on OTA channel 25.1. Can anyone else confirm?

No guide and PQ is terrible stretch-o-vision.

Has anyone observed KLSV-LD on channel 50? I have reason to believe that it is either on the air now, or was testing very recently.

- Trip

Shopping channel of course.

Last night we saw the 70th anniversary of the Wizard of Oz in HD. Century Theaters Santa Fe and Village Square got the film from a private feed via a Dish Net DVR. They were too stupid to feed it into the main digital projectors. Instead, they used the low light, low def projector they use for the pre show advertisements! The showing was dark, grainy and looked like someone's old super 8 home movies! We and many others got a refund from the theater manager who had no idea why the company botched this one.

got this email today:

"As a valued Cox High Speed Internet customer, you will soon have access to ESPN360.com through Cox.com – 24/7 live, online sports coverage – at no additional cost!"

got this email today:

"As a valued Cox High Speed Internet customer, you will soon have access to ESPN360.com through Cox.com – 24/7 live, online sports coverage – at no additional cost!"

Wow!

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but ESPN360 is a great site if you're a college sports fan. You can watch pretty much every game done by the ESPN networks (except for those airing on ABC in your area), so you can watch the games that are done in regional coverage that you wouldn't normally see, or keep an eye on a game while working or watching another game on the big screen.

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.

Saw a note on KTUD about needing to rescan, as they shut down their analog signal on October 1, 2009.

What is the latest sd and hd box available in Las Vegas without a dvr?

got this email today:

"As a valued Cox High Speed Internet customer, you will soon have access to ESPN360.com through Cox.com – 24/7 live, online sports coverage – at no additional cost!"


just checked it out.. espn 360 is now available.

http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index

just checked it out.. espn 360 is now available.

http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index

wow!

I just went to cox channel 100 and they are moving Versus from 67 to 38 and the hd from 767 to 738 effective 10/28/09.They are also adding NBA HD on 784 and on 785 adding NHL HD. They are also doing something to NBC digital sports channel on 123.

Im not sure how long this hidden special will last but Cox just gave me HBO, Starz and Showtime/TMC packages for a total of $15 a month for 1 year

Who gives a crap about the NFL at this time of year? In both the National and American Leagues (baseball), their are a total of about 10 teams all with a shot at winning their division or being a wild card.

I don't know how a pre-season or "beginning" of the season NFL game can hold your interest in preference to baseball at this time of year.

Yeah, you are right. One sport is better than the other. Wow!

Why go outside in real HD and play sports when you can watch miilionaires play on TV.

I guess the Word is out?

It's been a while since we've had a Foghorn/Word shootout on this thread. Since it really only benefits you two, how about taking the rest of the conversation to PM's. We would greatly appreciate it. :)

It's been a while since we've had a Foghorn/Word shootout on this thread. Since it really only benefits you two, how about taking the rest of the conversation to PM's. We would greatly appreciate it. :)

You know that quote from Word is about a year old. He hasn't posted anything on here in months.

What is the latest sd and hd box available in Las Vegas without a dvr?

I'm getting ready to move and would like to know this info also...dont know whether or not to keep my present cox boxes or go ahead and get new ones if they are newer. I presently have one 8300 DVR and one 3250 HD box.

also, if I keep my current boxes, will they just let me take them to the new place and set them up myself (if they can just turn on the service from the outside much like any utility company?) or do they want to rip u with extra installation fees / in home visit?

When we moved about a year ago, I took the cable modem and three digital converter boxes to our new home and set them up myself. No service call was required. All they did was light up the cable to give us service.

As for the DVR, the box they are giving out is the 8240HDC, which is identical to the 8300 except it lacks an analog tuner. Cox broadcasts every channel in digital so the lack of an analog tuner is not an issue.

Has anyone "in the know" heard about the guide software upgrade that was supposed to happen in 2009? Is it being beta tested with anyone? Or has it been delayed?

Has anyone "in the know" heard about the guide software upgrade that was supposed to happen in 2009? Is it being beta tested with anyone? Or has it been delayed?

http://www.ctam.com/html/tru2way/casestudies/case-Cox.jpg

I'm not testing it, but it's part of the Tru2Way platform that was supposed to be launched this summer. Looks like the time frame was pushed back by all providers to enhance the compatibility list and requirements for consumer devices under a last minute update to the cable labs specs by consumer developers. If you don't know already, it's supposed to be a 3-page HD compatible and keyword search based IPG.
First left side section is list of 7 channels where you highlight the one you are interested in. Second middle section is the top to bottom listing of 7 segments of programming for the highlighted channel (segments can be 15, 30 60 90 120 min, etc). The third section is the channel, time, date, and description of the highlighted program. In Keyword search mode, it should sort through multiple days and channels, (including VOD and DVR options) of data to find current and future listings of shows matching your keyword.

Quick Tru2way read from CTAM:
http://www.ctam.com/html/tru2way/commitment.htm

Specific details of the NDS and Cox deal for EPG development:
http://www.itvt.com/story/1616/nds-tapped-develop-new-interactive-user-interface-cox
According to NDS, the new UI, which will replace the operator's existing Aptiv guide, is compatible with "many of" Cox's existing set-tops, is designed to be forward-compatible with tru2way-enabled boxes, and can also run on other devices, such as PC's. It is billed as integrating Cox's various
digital video services--including VOD, EPG, DVR and ITV applications--into a centralized, user-friendly experience. Cox and NDS say they have further enhanced the user experience by enabling personalization by viewers to match their viewing preferences, and that network-based "community sharing," which enables viewers to recommend programs to one another, will also be part of the new interface.


vegggas

I'm getting ready to move and would like to know this info also...dont know whether or not to keep my present cox boxes or go ahead and get new ones if they are newer. I presently have one 8300 DVR and one 3250 HD box.

also, if I keep my current boxes, will they just let me take them to the new place and set them up myself (if they can just turn on the service from the outside much like any utility company?) or do they want to rip u with extra installation fees / in home visit?

Keep your boxes and stick with what you know. Besides, you would lose your DVR's programs and season passes.
You may find that they behave differently in your new location, better or worse based on the wiring in the home and even the neighborhood. If they are worse, you know it's not the boxes - If they are better, than you know that there were wiring issues in your last residence...

vegggas

Is there a non dvr hd box that uses hdmi connection. the 3250 only does component...although i think it has dvi.

Is there a non dvr hd box that uses hdmi connection. the 3250 only does component...although i think it has dvi.

In our living room we have an explorer 4240 that we picked up in spring of 08 and it has an hdmi connection it is not a DVR. You might want to swap out yours for a newer model.

Looks like Cox Communication and Sinclair have finally reached an agreement for carriage of KVMY-HD as 12.1. This addition to the Cox lineup is probably just a step ahead of KVMY launching Estrella as 12.2 on cable and 21.2 OTA..

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9181/pic0006qv.jpg
While watching house and lie to me tonight I noticed that there legal ID is now being spliced in without having to drop from HD to SD. I uploaded a pic that I took with my phone so its not the best quality. this is the first time have done this so I hope this works.

@chestnu1: I was just going to post that... I saw it for the first time during the ALCS. It's about time!

i wonder how NHL HD is going to look on cox.
personally, it wont matter much as far as i can tell. they get most of thier feeds in SD it would seems from watching the regular NHL net (no letterboxing etc)

just curious.

also, where is that program guide?
where is that "record from the internet to my DVR" feature they were talking about?!?

Hockey Night In Canada on Saturday is in HD. Also the Chicago game last week was in HD on NHL Network.

What the hell happened to my posts? We've discussed Cox (non-TV) stuff here before, I've never seen it moderated... I didn't see any notifications in my email about moderation.

Good question. I got the email with your post but when I clicked the link this morning it was gone.

What the hell happened to my posts? We've discussed Cox (non-TV) stuff here before, I've never seen it moderated... I didn't see any notifications in my email about moderation.

They have deleted "not on topic" posts before. The last time they did it, it was "speed test" posts also.

This is not a Cox Bulletin Board, its about Local HD which comes in many forms, the best being OTA.

This is not a Cox Bulletin Board, its about Local HD which comes in many forms, the best being OTA.

You are correct, but they should let people know when and why they delete stuff. I've seen them do it before. You know where the moderator posts "political posts deleted" and such.

It looks like KVBC has replaced their SD feed (on OTA 3.2 and on cable 3.2) of their HD service with the Untamed Sports netlet.

I knew it! I waited it out a really long time. But as soon as I changed my website's listing for 3-2 from "Blank" to "NBC" it got a different affiliation.

- Trip

It looks like KVBC has replaced their SD feed (on OTA 3.2 and on cable 3.2) of their HD service with the Untamed Sports netlet.

What is that?

What is that?

Untamed Sports is a small network carried on about ten stations, and features lots of hunting and fishing programs like those seen in syndication on weekends on many OTA stations. They do offer a few programs that differ from their network name, such as Country Vibe which is a half hour of music and talk concerning Country Music. Did I mention the excitement of overnight infomercials?

Google Untamed Sports for their weekly schedule.

Saw a note on KTUD about needing to rescan, as they shut down their analog signal on October 1, 2009.

It's Nov 1st, and KTUD is still broadcasting an analog stream on channel 25 in addition to their digital channel 20 RF signal.

This is not a Cox Bulletin Board, its about Local HD which comes in many forms, the best being OTA.

The forum is for any and all local HD discussion, including Cox cable.

Limited discussion of Internet speeds is allowed, but is not the primary focus.

At about 11:45 am today I noticed that there is a PSIP on KVMY 21.2 OTA indicating "ESTRELL". Programming should be following soon. Will Cox place this sub-channel on cable where it belongs?

At about 11:45 am today I noticed that there is a PSIP on KVMY 21.2 OTA indicating "ESTRELL". Programming should be following soon. Will Cox place this sub-channel on cable where it belongs?

What is that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrella_TV

Hispanic broadcaster Estrella programming is now flowing on KVMY 21.2 OTA, although possibly in a test mode stage.

Can you folks give me a hand? I bought a new TV tuner card that has a QAM tuner. I am trying to add the local HD channels manually from my Cox package. Win 7 MC scan only picks up five QAM channels and did not ID them correctly. I know the QAM tuner works because the ATI software does pick up all the clear QAM channels on the system. Can somebody please post a list of the actual channel locations and not virtual locations so I can manually enter them in MC. Thanks

OTA broadcaster KGNG has shuffled their deck. Gone from 47.2 is the very entertaining Korean MBC service, being replaced with the Hispanic Religious AVIVA netlet. Also, the KGNG website for their RTV service on 47.4 is several months behind, still showing an old program schedule.

Just a heads up
Cox High Speed Data has rolled out the docsis 3.0.
I have the top tier and adding a docsis 3.0 modem (sb6120) just about doubles my speeds with burst out of sight

pt

Just a heads up
Cox High Speed Data has rolled out the docsis 3.0.
I have the top tier and adding a docsis 3.0 modem (sb6120) just about doubles my speeds with burst out of sight

pt

Expect a new High Speed Tier fast enough to stream more than two HD streams at ATSC data rates for Xmas ;) Now, If I can only find websites that can push these kinds of datarates it would make it that much more of a bonus. I keep finding web sources out of the East coast that seem to have issues getting web traffic across the country, but all of the Vegas servers and most of the LA and San Fran sites are still pumping decent traffic speeds. A new tier will allow me to upload and stream higher bandwidth HD streams while I'm traveling too.

I had a chance to watch a few HD programs on MyHD (cox ch712). The bandwidth seems steady at high datarates when it has HD programming.
The NFL Networks HD game looked good too.
AMC's New version of the Prisoner has some rough scenes. I will have to watch it later to see how if the story line will keep me interested despite the image quality issues.

vegggas

So does that mean I will get a speed boost if I buy a new cable modem. I have the middle tier.

So does that mean I will get a speed boost if I buy a new cable modem. I have the middle tier.
Unlikely. You are specifically capped at a middle tier speed. Primet has a top tier that hasn't been metered yet. He is just getting a taste of things to come until they set a rate cap for his current level of service to introduce a newer faster tier. I did hear that all tiers are increasing, although low and mid tiers will still have upload caps.
To keep this post about HD and to not get deleted, how about the NFL game on NBCHD? Looks good! Image quality looks good for NBC.

vegggas

That game was great!

Question, is anyone experiencing any pixelization issues with CMTHD? This seems to be the only HD channel that I get artifacts on every now and then...

Concerning the other OT stuff... For someone like me who does pay for the top tier but does not have a docsis 3.0 modem, does it make sense to drop the cash on a sb6120? Just wondering, what kind of speeds are we talking about? I currently average 30 Mb/s down and 7 Mb/s up... Thanks for the info!

Amazon has them for $80. What is the max speed for the Docsis 2 modems? I want to make sure that I'm getting as much speed as I can with the amount I pay so my VOD downloads from D* is as fast as they can be.

Well good with docsis 3.0 done maybe cox can add some more HD channels we are starting to really fall behind other markets with the number of HD channels.

Well good with docsis 3.0 done maybe cox can add some more HD channels we are starting to really fall behind other markets with the number of HD channels.

Which channels are you waiting for?

Which channels are you waiting for?

I would like Disney XD HD, Investigation Discovery HD, G4 HD, MSNBC HD, The Weather Channel HD, and BBCA HD. These are all channels that I would like because I watch them regularly or would like to watch more but I overlook because I mostly watch HD channels. Thanks for asking:)

I wonder if this change to DOCIS 3 is whats causing this intermintent interference on the analog channels that started Sat night. The open QAM channels are not affected. Troubleshooting shows that the extra cable splitter and cable modem is not causing it since I took them out of the loop and the issue continues.

KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump has replaced their beautiful color bars on 18.4 with a new service from TUFF-TV. I noticed this change this morning about 9:45 am. I was so hoping the color bars would show up in the Neilson ratings.

KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump has replaced their beautiful color bars on 18.4 with a new service from TUFF-TV. I noticed this change this morning about 9:45 am. I was so hoping the color bars would show up in the Neilson ratings.

What programming is on 18.1-18.3? I did a scan a few weeks ago, these channels showed up in the guide, but I get absolutely no signal on them. I don't know how they scanned in if I'm not getting a signal. I can't find any info on these channels anywhere. They don't even show up on antennaweb. I don't know what kind of antenna I would need to pick these up, or if it's even worth it.

Tuff TV Schedule http://tufftv.com/schedule.html break out those high gain antennas for the Rifleman and Daniel Boone.

What programming is on 18.1-18.3?


18.1 KPVT Las Vegas/Pahrump RTV
18.2 KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump A-1
18.3 KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump Infomercials 24/7
18.3 KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump Tuff-TV

You probably don't need a high gain antenna, but just one aimed at Mt Potosi instead of Black Mtn. Since going digital KHMP has been licensed as a Las Vegas station serving both the Vegas Valley and Pahrump from their high Mt Potosi site.

Speaking of channel guides, seems like all web based guides are lacking in some respects. Either they miss a local channel or insist that out of town stations are viewable in the Vegas Valley. Even the Las Vegas Review Journal downsized and re-edited their Sunday TV section to save some newsprint. With that decision the guide is now difficult to use (IMO).

I just downgraded my local Cox service to get a $ that makes sense...and thought I'd share more news on the HSD front.

Dec 9th Cox Ultimate

50/5..now that's FAST

$129.95..now that's STUPID!

the local news is snowy
Please feel free to call Cox and complain about their snowy signal and thank them for giving all of us such a deal and praise marketing for their help in getting the local economy back on track.

I'm working on getting my tv to use rabbit ears.


I'n so proud to be a Cox High Speed Data subscriber..

Primetrouble

Thanks JFJr.. I know this isn't your doing but geeze guy...can't you convince someone that making the Las Vegas market a laughing stock (more of) really isn't good for business

PT

18.1 KPVT Las Vegas/Pahrump RTV
18.2 KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump A-1
18.3 KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump Infomercials 24/7
18.3 KHMP Las Vegas/Pahrump Tuff-TV

You probably don't need a high gain antenna, but just one aimed at Mt Potosi instead of Black Mtn. Since going digital KHMP has been licensed as a Las Vegas station serving both the Vegas Valley and Pahrump from their high Mt Potosi site.



Well, RTV is already on 47.4. I looked at the TUFF-TV schedule--nothing there of interest to me. Couldn't care less about infomercials and I have no clue what A-1 is (the steak sauce channel?) so it doesn't look like I'm missing anything.

Well, RTV is already on 47.4. I looked at the TUFF-TV schedule--nothing there of interest to me. Couldn't care less about infomercials and I have no clue what A-1 is (the steak sauce channel?) so it doesn't look like I'm missing anything.

America One on KHMP 18.2 carries a long list of unusual sports not seen elsewhere. In addition, there's a few Westerns and other general interest programs, plus talk shows covering local Pahrump issues.

Thanks JFJr.. I know this isn't your doing but geeze guy...can't you convince someone that making the Las Vegas market a laughing stock (more of) really isn't good for business

Until we get some real competition *glares at Centel/Sprint/Embarq/CenturyLink* we wont see reasonable prices for HSD or that big of a push on HD channels and package prices.

Docsis 3.0 Modem at amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SB6120-SURFboard-eXtreme-Broadband/dp/B001UI2FPE). Seems to be the cheapest reputable vendor online.

I wonder what Cox will do to their Business SOHO prices. I don't even see them on the website anymore (they used to be there) hopefully they didn't kill the packages and just let us stragglers keep the service level until we change. I want faster speeds with my static IP!

Why do you need a static IP? Mine hasn't changed in probably two years or so.

I run my own web/mail server. IIRC Cox still blocks port 25 so I need a commercial level account.

I run my own web/mail server. IIRC Cox still blocks port 25 so I need a commercial level account.

Yeah they still do and they block incoming of port 80 too. I used to do that too then I decided to just get a shared hosting plan and let someone else worry about keeping the server up to date.

Do they block 443? (https) I use that for my WHS box to get access to my files.

I'll call them tomorrow and see what's up about DOCSIS 3.

Do they block 443? (https) I use that for my WHS box to get access to my files.

I'll call them tomorrow and see what's up about DOCSIS 3.

I have full access to my WHS so I doubt that the port is blocked... If you don't mind, could you PM me the info that Cox gives you tomorrow? I work the GY shift and its hard to get a hold of them due to my schedule. Thanks!