Looks like the Cox website was updated shortly after my post. Pricing is $119 for 50/5.

Looks like the Cox website was updated shortly after my post. Pricing is $119 for 50/5.

$119? Let me have some of what they're smoking. :rolleyes: I'll stick with what I have.

Hey guys,
I need someone who can give me a clear answer on this. I just put together a Windows 7 HTPC and purchased a Hauppage 1800 WinTV card. It does Clear QAM as does Windows 7 (x64) Media Center . I bypassed my Cox cable box (I have Digital cable and HD) and went straight into my antenna port on the card. It autodetects as ClearQAM and starts to scan for channels, but only picks up a small handful of channels, and if I go back in to look at all the channels it found the majority of them are locked. Do I need to call Cox and have them do something on their end? I'm getting almost none of my digital channels and none of my HD channels. When I call Cox and tell them I have put a TV tuner card in my PC, the only thing they tell me is its not supported. They seem to be pretty clueless on this topic. I was hoping someone here could give me a straight answer and let me know if I'm wasting my time with trying to get this working and should just return my card. I was able to get all my channels by going through the Scientfic Atlanta box to my tuner card, but all the channels look to be analog quality and none come through in HD. My whole purpose of this project is to bypass the set top box and just use my tuner card. Any suggestions? Thanks.

That tuner will not decode encrypted QAM signals from cable TV because it has no capability of using a CableCard. The only channels broadcast in clear QAM from Cox are the local channels. That's it.

To build your own Media Center with CableCard, see this article from EngadgetHD:

http://hd.engadget.com/2009/05/12/how-to-install-a-cablecard-tuner-in-your-diy-media-center/

Aren't some of the SD digital channels unencrypted too.

[QUOTE=Demodave;17694461]That tuner will not decode encrypted QAM signals from cable TV because it has no capability of using a CableCard. The only channels broadcast in clear QAM from Cox are the local channels. That's it.

To build your own Media Center with CableCard, see this article from EngadgetHD:

QUOTE]

Thanks for the link. I'll definitely check it out. My friend who used to work for Cox and does home theatre systems here in Vegas says that you can take digital cable from cox and go directly into a TV and it will give you digital cable without needing a box. Is this true? I've never tried it myself. I know Cox supports cable cards for TV's and TIVO's etc, so I guess if the need a cable card that would make sense. So I take it calling Cox is useless at this point? I should just return this card..

I'm still a bit confused on this. These cable cards are to access Premium content. I just want to be able to get to regular digital and HD channels that I'm already paying for, not any of the premium channels.

I'm still a bit confused on this. These cable cards are to access Premium content. I just want to be able to get to regular digital and HD channels that I'm already paying for, not any of the premium channels.

It depends on what HD channels you want, the local HD channels are sent clear QAM if you the want the HD version of any other channels like say the Discovery Channel HD you will need a TV tuner card that supports a cable card. There is the ATI digital cable tuner which using one cable card will tune into and record one channel at a time. This is available in both internal and external versions and really can be found reliability on eBay but, is not as good deal as the other option is you are willing to wait. The other option coming on May 31 is the Ceton digital cable card for 399 plus shipping. The Model coming out first supports four tuners which will support with one cable card the recording of up to four encrypted channels at a time. There will in the future be a two tuner card and a six tuner card in addition to the four tuner card. Here is a link for a forum with tons of info on the Ceton card where a person actually has one. http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/t/78488.aspx?PageIndex=1 Good luck with your set up if you have any more questions feel free to ask.:)

I'm still a bit confused on this. These cable cards are to access Premium content. I just want to be able to get to regular digital and HD channels that I'm already paying for, not any of the premium channels.

The only channels Cox puts in clear QAM is the locals and their subs. To access the digital channels, you need a digital gateway via cable box or cable card. In your HTPC you would need a tuner that accepts a cable card. You would bring your cable card to Cox to have them encrypt your subscription package information. If Cox left the digital packages in the clear, Then there would be no need to subscribe since you could get it for free.

Looks like the Cox website was updated shortly after my post. Pricing is $119 for 50/5.

You know, the internet service in Zimbabwe is only $15/month for 256 kb.

$119? Let me have some of what they're smoking. :rolleyes: I'll stick with what I have.

The local gas and electric company is excellent and has great customer service.

Today's the 9th. No updates on Cox's website regarding the higher tier yet. :(

Does anyone know if they will still be offering it today? Hopefully with the same discounted 1yr contracted offering, like they seem to have done other markets.

People PC has great rates too.

I run my own web/mail server. IIRC Cox still blocks port 25 so I need a commercial level account.

Port 5.5 is very useful too.

McDonalds has recently lowered their prices too.

This TV on KVCW 33.1

There is now a PSIP on KVCW 33.2 OTA for 'This TV'. No programming as yet.

The main KVCW programming, from 33.1, is being repeated, as least for now, on 33.2.

What they really should do is broadcast channels like MSNBC, CNN, TV Land ect on these subchannels. They show commercials anyway so why should one pay to have the privlige to watch channels that already get paid.

The subchannels are a waste of bandwidth.

I think its all a silly big game and the FCC should go back and regulate like hell.

Foghorn2, as long as stations keep the visual quality of each sub-channel to a viewable standard, then sub-channels are not a waste of badwidth. These sub-channels are doing exactly what the FCC had in mind when they regulated that stations must go digital and do more with less, freeing up spectrum space in the former channel 52-69 allocations.

An HD signal at 10 or 11 Megabytes, with one or two SD subchannels at 3.5-4.2 Megabytes looks great on all streams. Those of you who think all HD channels should only broadcast at 19.2 Megabytes are in the minority.

Yes, it would be nice if cable channels could be carried on broadcast stations, like MSNBC, CNN, TV Land, etc. Until such time as cable operators fire their high priced lawyers, that isn't going to happen.

An HD signal at 10 or 11 Megabytes, with one or two SD subchannels at 3.5-4.2 Megabytes looks great on all streams.

I've yet to see 11 Mbps look acceptable for HD.

- Trip

I've yet to see 11 Mbps look acceptable for HD.

- Trip

It all depends on what kind of action the broadcast is showing, and to what that picture is being compared.

There will be those, when the next generation of HD standards come along, that state that 19.2 Mbs was really poor quality for a single stream of HD.

HD is just a catch phrase to sell product. The quaility is slowly being watered down to sell the next product.

F* em, for me its all about content and most good content in DVD quality is way better than crap content in pseudo HD.

The local channels in HD have very little quality programming, including KLVX.

Which RG coax cable is best for longer runs?

Which RG coax cable is best for longer runs?

A good quality RG6 is suitable for all but the extremely long runs.

You really need to calculate your RF loss budget to see if something else, such as RG11, is really needed. It rarely is needed. I usually only specify it when cable lengths are well over 100' and/or losses that cannot be overcome with amplification must be very tightly managed.

I don't know if this interests anyone here but it would appear that Nevada week in review has made the jump to hd. For a while it looked like the show was shooting in hd but in a 4:3 aspect ratio (I always watch on the PBS hd channel), I know weird but trust me I have for a while seen all the pores on the faces of the panel members. I don't know if any of the news footage that they show is in hd because this week and last it is there annual top 10 news stories of the year countdown show and I guess they recycled what ever was shown earlier in the year. For anyone still reading and has no idea what I am talking about Nevada week in review is a show of local origination on PBS that airs on the weekend that talks about the weeks top stories and there impact in las vegas and the rest of the state with a group of local panelists made up of local reporters.

K41IO TBN in Las Vegas

I had sent a question to the TBN web site concerning their translator, K41IO, in Las Vegas, and why it only carries one of their sub-channels. Here's a portion of the reply I received today.

"We regret that we must tell you that TBN ENLACE, the Spanish language Christian network, is now being broadcast on Channel 41. After discovering that 85-90% of the households in Las Vegas receive TBN either by cable or a satellite dish system, the decision was made to use Channel 41 to reach a portion of the Spanish speaking population. Cable, Dish Network, and DirecTV do not carry Enlace."

Guess TBN thinks we're a lost cause, or just couldn't rationalize spending a few more bucks to provide the full roster of TBN channels.

K41IO TBN in Las Vegas

I had sent a question to the TBN web site concerning their translator, K41IO, in Las Vegas, and why it only carries one of their sub-channels. Here's a portion of the reply I received today.

"We regret that we must tell you that TBN ENLACE, the Spanish language Christian network, is now being broadcast on Channel 41. After discovering that 85-90% of the households in Las Vegas receive TBN either by cable or a satellite dish system, the decision was made to use Channel 41 to reach a portion of the Spanish speaking population. Cable, Dish Network, and DirecTV do not carry Enlace."

Guess TBN thinks we're a lost cause, or just couldn't rationalize spending a few more bucks to provide the full roster of TBN channels.

Man, Las Vegas would suffer for this. Imagine all those sinners no longer able to repent and redeem themselves and send in money, unless they know spanish.

May the lord bring back TBN to Las Vegas HDTV in 1080p.

KVCW 33.2

Looks like the engineering staff at KVCW is happy with their recent addition of 33.2 and have turned on the flow from This TV. Let the movies begin.

Anyone here think the cable companies will ever offer cell phone service?

rdvegas - What a disappointing response from TBN. If KGNG can afford to do 5 streams, TBN definitely has the resources to make it happen. Personally any station with only one stream is wasting their resources. The marginal costs of adding additional streams are relatively low once you have the primary channel up and running. KLVX does the best job of probably any DTV station in the valley in fully utilizing their DTV bandwidth.

vegashomes - Cox has plans to offer cell phone service in the near future and is currently testing wireless service in select markets - Hampton Roads, Omaha and Orange County per http://cox.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=457

Looks like we can expect to see Cox retail stores in the near future as well.

rdvegas - What a disappointing response from TBN. If KGNG can afford to do 5 streams, TBN definitely has the resources to make it happen.

I really could care less about TBN programming. They do have an occasional movie or children's E/I show that is watchable, IMO. You are right that TBN has already spent the money putting into place their transmitter, and all they need to do is turn on the other sub-channels.

I also believe that their fiqures about Las Vegas OTA viewership being only 10-15% is low ball. Considering all the low income and minorities in the valley that don't subscribe to the Cox cable or satellite, I think TBN miss counted our OTA viewers.

TBN is only hurting their own money raising efforts by not providing all TBN sub-channels to our valley.

Can anyone verify that analog KVTE-35 is broadcasting a blank signal on channel 35? After an absence, my TV spotted a signal from them during an analog scan.

Hello, all:

Can I get someone to send updated TSReader data on all the local stations, plus channel 56, during CES at the end of the week? I'm curious to see what the local stations have going on for the Mobile DTV (ATSC-M/H) demos.

Thanks. :)

- Trip

Also, is anyone seeing KEGS-LD on channel 24? If so, what's it airing and how's it mapping?

- Trip

Looks like KMCC 32.1 Digital has dropped MegaTV. They are now running programming from the Vasallovision network joining KAZH-DT Houston as Vasallovision network affiliates.

I had noticed different programming the past several days, but didin't realize the "MEGA" logo was absent. I will miss the MEGA program Esta Noche Tonight. It was very watchable even for a viewer with limited Spanish speaking abilities.

Hi,

My friends and I are going to Vegas for the Super Bowl and wanted to know if we brought our own HDTV, would we be able to get an HD signal inside our casino hotel room? Not sure if they use scramblers or something that might disrupte the signal. We talked to the A/V department at The Mirage and they want to charge us $840 for a 50" HDTV, so we rather bring our own and hook-up an HD antenna if that will work. Obviously we only need to get CBS HD.

Thanks,
Cory

I would be surprised if they were doing anything to block OTA. Depending on the room your in you will either go through glass or the width of the hotel.

I think you would be OK. I would recommend you get a room with a window facing the South East. If memory serves that's where CBS has their transmitter on Black Mountain and its in the SE area of the valley.

Hi,

My friends and I are going to Vegas for the Super Bowl and wanted to know if we brought our own HDTV, would we be able to get an HD signal inside our casino hotel room?

So let me get this straight. You're coming to Vegas to watch the Super Bowl in a hotel room? And you're going to lug around your own HDTV from home? Sorry, but am I the only one who's not getting this?

1. The Mirage (where I assume you're staying) has a pretty nice sportsbook where you can watch the Super Bowl on huge screens. The crowd there will actually make it feel like you're at the game.

2. If you're determined to watch the game from you're hotel room (still not getting this :confused:), there are plenty of hotels in town that have HDTV's in the room at no extra charge. Unless staying at the Mirage is mandatory, I'd look elsewhere.

As Bruin stated...look around: I am not sure about other hotels, but I do know that Aria, Vdarra and Bellagio have rooms that have 42" HD TV's.

I just have to toss in my 2 cents on this one. I have found few indoor scenarios where a stable digital TV signal works in a hotel room. In cities with good UHF signals, it still breaks up. Here in Vegas, with our VHF signals good luck. With a clear visual shot to Anthem and Black MT. I cannot get good signal at my workplace near Bonanza and Lamb with rabbit ears. Also this guy will have Bally's, the Paris, Planet Hollywood etc, and McCarran air traffic breaking up his signal every 30 secs which lies directly between the Mirage and the transmitter! Enjoy the game.

CenturyLink will be giving Cox some new competition very soon. In the Microsoft booth at CES, they were showing off their new Mediaroom 2.0 software running on a Motorola STB. The menus all featured the CenturyLink logo. So I asked if CentruyLink was going to provide this locally and she said that the rollout will begin later this month. She added that they were nice enough to provide the service early for the CES. I didn't get to see much, but it looked like there was lots of HD; and the menus were far more advanced than the Sara software running on the Cox STB. Those are all the details I could get yesterday....but great news I think!!

CenturyLink will be giving Cox some new competition very soon. In the Microsoft booth at CES, they were showing off their new Mediaroom 2.0 software running on a Motorola STB. The menus all featured the CenturyLink logo. So I asked if CentruyLink was going to provide this locally and she said that the rollout will begin later this month. She added that they were nice enough to provide the service early for the CES. I didn't get to see much, but it looked like there was lots of HD; and the menus were far more advanced than the Sara software running on the Cox STB. Those are all the details I could get yesterday....but great news I think!!

To see the announcement from Microsoft, go to http://www.microsoft.com/mediaroom/

This is the service ATT Uverse is using and you can look up the threads dedicated to that service.

FYI, Cox Las Vegas is currently employee testing the Passport Echo Interface for all Set tops. I'm not sure when it will go out for public release to everyone, but I imagine it should be soon, since I assumed they didn't want to go into the new year using SARA licensing. According to some chatter from the summer, this is supposed to be on the roadmap to the transition for the retail tru2way interface and enhanced interfaces for HD-STBs to come later in the year. Cox had said a new global interface was coming (Passport) for all boxes in all markets, with enhanced HD interfaces from NDS for HD boxes to follow later.
First peeks at the new interface in action last night were pleasant, although my contact said they are still tweaking, adding or deleting some functions based on employee feedback. The Search function alone makes it a keeper since it lets you select letters based on keywords or titles that provide results from every day of the guide data. For example, I typed in Eastwood and got results back for all movies and shows featuring and even directed by Clint. Some other features might be found in the Passport threads for various MSO's, and they may have added or modified more than those found there.

More to come next week.

vegggas

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jan/09/cable-news-channel-go-dark/


Cable news channel to go dark

Las Vegas Sun

Saturday, Jan. 9, 2010 | 2 a.m.

The cable news channel Las Vegas ONE will cease operations today, after nearly 12 years.

The development was not unexpected. In October, the channel’s partners shut down the weeknight newscast “NewsONE at 9,” and in December two of its key programs, “Face to Face With Jon Ralston” and “In Business Las Vegas,” moved to Sunbelt Communications’ KVBC Channel 3.

Las Vegas ONE was a partnership between television station KLAS Channel 8, the Las Vegas Sun and Cox Communications.

“Face to Face With Jon Ralston” now has a statewide audience, airing live at 4 p.m. weekdays on KVBC as well as Sunbelt’s KRNV in Reno and KENV in Elko. “In Business Las Vegas” will air at 12:30 p.m. Fridays on Channel 3, beginning Jan. 15.

“Face to Face With Jon Ralston,” “In Business Las Vegas” and the Las Vegas Sun are part of Greenspun Media Group.

Las Vegas ONE General Manager Linda Bonnici said in a statement: “Las Vegas ONE has provided a unique service since April 1998. In addition to in-depth local news, the channel provided coverage of numerous community activities, trials and other events important to our community. New technology has significantly changed how consumers access local news and information. Those changes, in addition to the continued economic challenges, have driven all media outlets to re-evaluate how to best serve Southern Nevada.”

A spokeswoman for Cox said that after Las Vegas ONE ceases broadcasting, Channel 19, which carried Las Vegas ONE, will remain vacant for now.

KLAS’ local all-news channel, “8 News NOW,” will be carried on Channel 128, KLAS said.
The Channel is already removed...
vegggas

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jan/09/cable-news-channel-go-dark/

KLAS’ local all-news channel, “8 News NOW,” will be carried on Channel 128, KLAS said.

The Channel is already removed...
vegggas

Any chance we'd be able to see 8 News NOW on a KLAS digital subchannel? It would definitely be a nice channel to have for those of us with rabbit ears.

Speaking of Subchannels, I would love to see KLVX replace V-Me with MHZ Worldview... doubt it would ever happen as KLVX has a lot of channels exclusive to Cox (Even though KLVX is largely a tax-payer supported entity!)

Most stations that have that "NOW" name are using the Accuweather service which is more weather oriented than news oriented. Not saying that's definitely the case here, but is a definite possibility.

As far as KLVX, with as many services as their website indicates they provide, it'd be nice if they bought one of the LPTV stations in the area and multicasted all those service in SD. They could move Create there too and make the HD look better perhaps...

- Trip

I am hoping for these features to be added to the Cox DVR:

1) The ability to force the box to always show the HD version of a channel. For instance, if someone punches in Channel 3, the box will automatically go to Channel 703.

2) DVR programming via the internet.

I am hoping for these features to be added to the Cox DVR:

1) The ability to force the box to always show the HD version of a channel. For instance, if someone punches in Channel 3, the box will automatically go to Channel 703.

2) DVR programming via the internet.
DirecTV already offers both of those features Dave. Why wait for Cox?

DirecTV already offers both of those features Dave. Why wait for Cox?

We've looked at DirecTV; but the cost would be about the same for all of the channels we use. Plus, the wife is a big user of the on-demand service for movies, which DirecTV still lacks for the most part. We would need six receivers which I'm sure would cost extra. And we are Chargers fans, so there is really no need for the NFL Ticket since most games are broadcast here.

In the end, I think it would cost us more to switch to DirecTV.

Although, I am very interested in what CenturyLink may offer as they start to rollout their TV service. The demo was quite impressive at CES.

KEGS 24
This morning I did a normal run through of the dial and found not a trace of signal from KEGS-24. However, by 2:45 p.m. this afternoon there is a slight signal (no picture for me, as yet).

As far as KLVX, with as many services as their website indicates they provide, it'd be nice if they bought one of the LPTV stations in the area and multicasted all those service in SD. They could move Create there too and make the HD look better perhaps...

- Trip

Another possibility would be for KLVX to lease spectrum space from one or more local full powered stations in town and transmit their cable exclusive (goodbye Cox) offerings through those stations. Each would then be virtual displayed as 10.4, 10.5, and 10.6. KVVU-5, KINC-15, KVMY-21, KVCW-33, and KBLR-39 would not suffer losing 3.5-4Mps to KLVX.

Another possibility would be for KLVX to lease spectrum space from one or more local full powered stations in town and transmit their cable exclusive (goodbye Cox) offerings through those stations. Each would then be virtual displayed as 10.4, 10.5, and 10.6. KVVU-5, KINC-15, KVMY-21, KVCW-33, and KBLR-39 would not suffer losing 3.5-4Mps to KLVX.

That would probably be too cost prohibitive for KLVX.

KVVU has a weather subchannel, KVMY has Estrella TV, KVCW has This TV, KBLR has like 5Mbit dumped into Mobile DTV, and KINC will presumably upgrade to HD at some point. Those stations would either need to drop their existing secondary service (and the ad revenue it generates), or cram an additional SD subchannel in and have everything look like crap, like on KVBC.

K43FO Analog Las Vegas

When 3ABN engineering was asked for a digital conversion date for their Las Vegas K43FO analog transmitter, they replied:

"I am sorry but I am unable to give you a time as to when Las Vegas will be converted to digital. It costs between $20,000 to $60,000 per station to convert to digital, as the funds become available we will convert to a digital signal."

Expect KEGS-24 to provide a 24/7 infomercial stream, and one other, as yet unnamed, sub-channel. Expect one of the streams to be almost certainly GEMS. No substantial programming. Build 'em; sell 'em. That might describe the broadcast ethics of the owners of KEGS.

My former radio boss was fined for doing just that with his cutie AM stations years ago. He didn't hold the license of a newly constructed station long enough to please the commission. The FCC used to frown on the quick turn over of a newly licensed operation. The intent they wanted was for an owner to serve the community of license with responsive programming.

Expect KEGS-24 to provide a 24/7 infomercial stream, and one other, as yet unnamed, sub-channel. No substantial programming. Build 'em; sell 'em. That might describe the broadcast ethics of the owners of KEGS.

My former radio boss was fined for doing just that with his cutie AM stations years ago. He didn't hold the license of a newly constructed station long enough to please the commission. The FCC used to frown on the quick turn over of a newly licensed operation. The intent they wanted was for an owner to serve the community of license with responsive programming.

Is that a new station?

It's the LP station that used to be on 30 analog and I believe had RTN. It was owned and operated by Equity, who also owned RTN at the time, but now is owned by Mako who leases out its bandwidth to the highest bidder.

http://www.rabbitears.info/search.php?request=owner_search&owner=Mako+Communications

- Trip

When the financial turmoil hit Equity and KEGS last year, KEGS ended their RTV affiliation and aired programming from AMG for a brief stint. Then the analog transmitter was silenced while the lawyers got involved. This is for the LPTV operation in Las Vegas, and not the former full power station by the same calls in Elko.

It's Alive! It's Alive!

KEGS Las Vegas is showing off their color bars, tone, and ID this morning. They are broadcast on channel 24.1 and 24.2 and virtual displayed to 30.1 and 30.2.

I guess that's progress.

Las Vegas and Pahrump have a bunch of CP's in the works for low power stations with the FCC.

KVPX 6 Almavision probably remap to 28
KLVD 14 Daystar probably remap to 23
KNBX 21 probably remap to 31
K14NE 26 probably remap to 14
KHDF 38 probably remap to 19
KPVT 38
K42AA 42 //KTNV-13
K43FO 43 3ABN probably remap to 73
K45KN 45
K46KA 46
K53AE 53

Applications are also on fille for:
new 45
new 51
KFBY 53

LPTV analog stations lacking a request for digital service:
KELV 27
KVTE 35
K46GX //KLAS

CenturyLink will be giving Cox some new competition very soon.

Found CenturyLink's website for their IPTV service in Columbia, MO which appears to be their IPTV test market.

http://www.getpuretv.com

CenturyLink IPTV Channel Lineup:

http://www.centurylink.com/static/Images/Personal/SpecialOffers/mediaRoom/channelLineup_09.pdf

So let me get this straight. You're coming to Vegas to watch the Super Bowl in a hotel room? And you're going to lug around your own HDTV from home? Sorry, but am I the only one who's not getting this?

I'm not getting it either - & I AM an A/V techo-geek as much as the next guy! :eek: :D

But I thought I would tag onto this post, since I just got back from CES@Vegas & wanted to post my experience with DTV in this market, which might also help cory...

When I was packing f/CES, I was curious what would happen if I tried using an OTA digital converter. I was staying at the Roadway Inn, which is on Convention Ctr Dr, between the strip & the LVCC, & when I stayed there before, they only have a small SMATV channel lineup. (since I was there last year, they switched over to the full Cox expanded basic cable, except they knocked out cable ch. 95-99 & substituted HBO & Showtime on 96-97 instead) So, I tossed in my luggage my DTVpal+ converter, a couple 6' pieces of coax, a set of A/V cables & a bowtie antenna that is like any other that would clip on to any ordinary "rabbit ears" - no amps of any kind, either.

So, after I checked in Thursday evening, I hooked up DTVpal+ to the convenient front A/V inputs on the TV, put the bowtie on top the TV cabinet & let it scan. Much to my amazement, it pulled in all these digital channels:
3,5,8,10,13,15,17,18,21,25,32,33,39,41,47,50 & 56, which was just a blank screen. (I assume it was for that Mobile TV demo someone else mentioned)

Now, so you know my surroundings - my room was only up on the 2nd floor, but it did face East toward the LVCC with a full window - but there is another block outside hallway w/iron bars across square openings. (I think they are for emergency exists :confused: ) When I scanned the first time, I could not get 3 to come in. I also then remembered that your primary networks are still on VHF, so I moved the bowtie around again & just rescanned ch 3 - it did come in & stayed locked. The only station that was very touchy was 50 - but since it's only JTV, I didn't really care. Once I got the antenna situated, I didn't have to touch it for any of the other OTA's.
But man, you guys have a LOT of subchannels available on your DTV - it's even more surprising how much of it is also Spanish - I don't even think Chicago has this much!

So other than those couple quibbles, I am still amazed how easily even the LP digitals came in - again, with only that little bowtie & with obviously all those other buildings around me. If anything, I would have thought the multipath would have killed the reception, but obviously not.

But man, you guys have a LOT of subchannels available on your DTV - it's even more surprising how much of it is also Spanish - I don't even think Chicago has this much!

With more to come; both station count and sub-channels.

Here's my wish list for future sub-channels in the Vegas Valley, in no particular order: AMG, MHz World View, TVS, MBC, MEGA, Multimedios, BYU, California Channel, .2, Classic Arts Showcase, Coastal TV, Live Well HD, ION, and Qubo.

Any station execs reading this?

MHz is already available in Vegas--on cable. And if KLVX won't put it out over the air, you're probably SOL.

What's TVS?

- Trip

What's TVS?- Trip

TVS is the new sub-channel net from Henderson based Margate that is poised for a 4th Q 2010 launch. Several big name media group owners are on board.

The storms of last week caused some major outtages and other problems for Los Angeles stations. The transmitter sites on Mt Wilson lost power, and were all but inaccessible because of snow, ice, and wash-outs. It's mostly back to normal now for those broadcasters and viewers.

As those storms rolled into the Las Vegas Valley our weather only did minimal damage to local broadcasters. Perhaps the most visible problem was an outtage for KGNG that caused the loss of satellite signals on 47.1-4 for some time. Their 47.5 Movies+ remained broadcasting, being locally programmed. Also suffering in their power hit was KGNG-47 analog, which still remians off air today. Broadcast owner King Kong claims they will have to locate and replace a final transmitter tube before their analog station can return to the air, and indicated the station will continue on-air as long as the FCC green-lights analog LPTV service. It's possible, however, a network affiliation change is in the future for analog KGNG.

Analog KVPX-28 was displaying a Dish Network "Pay-up or lose service"' advisory during part of last week. That was not directly weather related, but just a part of their seemingly normal program schedule.

The KEGS 30.1 and 30.2 color bars and ID seem to be missing yesterday and today.

Anyone have an idea when KINC-DT will transition to HD?

Noticed Univision and Telefutura have both been running some promos announcing shows in HD yet it appears 15.1 and 15.2 are still broadcast in SD, although at times they will air a program in 16:9.

I just made my own uhf/vhf hd antenna--db8 design---copied from utube folks and installed it in my attic crawl space here in mt. edge. I am getting the following channels with signal strenght 75 -- 95. 3.1,3.2,3.3, 5.1,5.2, 8.1,8.2, 10.1,10.2,10.3, 13.1,13.2, 15.1,15.2, 21.1,21.2, 33.1,33.2. Are there any other channels I am not catching? Those folks with outside antenna?

I just made my own uhf/vhf hd antenna--db8 design---copied from utube folks and installed it in my attic crawl space here in mt. edge. I am getting the following channels with signal strenght 75 -- 95. 3.1,3.2,3.3, 5.1,5.2, 8.1,8.2, 10.1,10.2,10.3, 13.1,13.2, 15.1,15.2, 21.1,21.2, 33.1,33.2. Are there any other channels I am not catching? Those folks with outside antenna?

Go to either ww.tvfool.com or www.antnennaweb.org to figure out what stations should be receivable at your address.

Yeah I have been there. I'm trying to see actual folks experiences with outside ota antenna anywhere in the valley.

Are there any other channels I am not catching?

Even with an inside antenna you should be able to also catch 17.1, 18.1-4, 30.1-2, 32.1, 39.1, 41.1, 47.1-5, and 50.1.

Even with an inside antenna you should be able to also catch 17.1, 18.1-4, 30.1-2, 32.1, 39.1, 41.1, 47.1-5, and 50.1.

Can you tell me what each one of these broadcast? Not so much interested with the spanish channels. But i'd love to get all these none the less. Thanks in advance. Do you have outside antenna? amplified? Thing about placing an outside antenna is my hoa.

Can you tell me what each one of these broadcast? Not so much interested with the spanish channels. But i'd love to get all these none the less. Thanks in advance. Do you have outside antenna? amplified? Thing about placing an outside antenna is my hoa.

Check out http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php and click on #54 Las Vegas. The click on "Expand All" in the upper right corner. This is an up-to-date listing of the stations and what network or service they broadcast on their main channel and sub-channels. You can click each channel to see lots of additional details about their broadcasting.

Some of the Hispanic channels have the best musical entertainment of any stations broadcasting here. You don't even need to speak Spanish to enjoy it. I also believe that Hispanic KLBR-39 has the best HD picture quality.

HOA's like to think they can dictate what you can do and can't do to your home. When it comes to TV reception the government states that HOA's can't restrict the placement of antennas, except in a few situations.

And for the record, I only have an indoor antenna, but do use an amplifier part of the time.

Unrelated to the above, but watch out for another rate increase from the fine folks at Cox Cable coming in March.

I heard about that cox increase. I actually just quit their cable tv service after a year, for what they charge and what I get/like to watch, it was not worth it for me at all. That is why I am so happy with the antenna working.

So you mean you get all my channels and the the others that you mentioned with your indoor antenna? Thats real good location for you. I'm by fort apache and blue diamond how about you?

My general area is Buffalo and Vegas Drive.

KVBC requires rabbit ears because of the channel 2 RF allocation, while the rest are ok on a Silver Sensor UHF. The only channel that causes reception headaches is KMCC-32. For about two months now there signal seems non-existant.

You'll discover that you probably will need to rotate your antenna to three different locations to catch all signals.

I actually made 2 of those uhf db8 style antenna and added a rabbits ears on one of them and position it in my crawl space. I looked for the best position of the 2 antennas to catch as much channels as I can with out moving it anymore (since its up there). But seems like the mentioned channels is all I pick up. Maybe I should add another one?

Do you need to move your antenna frequently to catch the different channels you want to see? I think you maybe much closer to the center of the towers thats why you get all those. I'm way on the end corner of the valley. , so I mostly point to the NE,SE direction.

Thanks for the info man!

I live south of Blue Diamond Rd and I can get all local stations and subs easily with a simple amplified indoor antenna. I used to have a problem getting KVBC (NBC); but after the digital transition it comes in fine.

Has anyone noticed lately the terrible smearing thats been on NBC HD?
watching the office tonight we saw it. its only NBC though.
and i know it isnt our tv as we just had the optical block (basically the entire TV innards) replaced a few days ago by sony.

but its just NBC... not discovery or any other good channel.
this bothers me because
a) i am from canada
and
b) i am really looking forward to the olympics in 8 days.

how can i approach this with cox?
the will always just result in them saying the box is bad or whatever.
my levels are perfect... they always are.

so any ideas?

Has nothing to do with Cox and everything to do with KVBC's decision to cram 2 high-motion SD subchannels along with the HD channel into space that is barely adequate for a single high-motion HD channel. You would need to convince the station's management to kill one (or both) of the subchannels and dedicate those bits to the HD channel. The odds of them doing that approach 0 since those subchannels are basically free money, not costing the station a dime and allowing them to sell extra advertising.

Has anyone noticed lately the terrible smearing thats been on NBC HD?
watching the office tonight we saw it. its only NBC though.
and i know it isnt our tv as we just had the optical block (basically the entire TV innards) replaced a few days ago by sony.

but its just NBC... not discovery or any other good channel.
this bothers me because
a) i am from canada
and
b) i am really looking forward to the olympics in 8 days.

how can i approach this with cox?
the will always just result in them saying the box is bad or whatever.
my levels are perfect... they always are.

so any ideas?

I've seen this too on both Cox and Off The Air with an antenna.
It's not always there, but it does show up more often on dark scenes.

vegggas

I heard about that cox increase. I actually just quit their cable tv service after a year, for what they charge and what I get/like to watch, it was not worth it for me at all. That is why I am so happy with the antenna working.

So you mean you get all my channels and the the others that you mentioned with your indoor antenna? Thats real good location for you. I'm by fort apache and blue diamond how about you?

Some prices are going down too. DVR, outlet and phone services are going down and deeper discounts applied for bundling.


vegggas

Has nothing to do with Cox and everything to do with KVBC's decision to cram 2 high-motion SD subchannels along with the HD channel into space that is barely adequate for a single high-motion HD channel. You would need to convince the station's management to kill one (or both) of the subchannels and dedicate those bits to the HD channel. The odds of them doing that approach 0 since those subchannels are basically free money, not costing the station a dime and allowing them to sell extra advertising.

that is a good and valid technical reason. However it's not always been that way. This happens more often now.
Have they started broadcasting dual channels recently?
Seems strange after three years I am just seeing it

I live south of Blue Diamond Rd and I can get all local stations and subs easily with a simple amplified indoor antenna. I used to have a problem getting KVBC (NBC); but after the digital transition it comes in fine.


Can you eleborate what exactly you are getting with your indoor antenna? I get nbc 3.1-3, fox 5.1-2, cbs 8.1-2, pbs 10.1-3, abc 13.1-2 ,KINCSD 15.1-2, MYLVTV 21.1-2, The CW 33.1-2. with pretty good signal strenght and without moving the antenna. Do you need to move your antenna to get different channels? Or is it stationary and catching all of it? We are kinda close to each other so I'm very curious.

About 2 years ago, I bought this amplified hdtv antenna from radio shack for 40-50 bucks(one you put on top of tv), it worked somewhat in the apt. we used to live in by di and decatur, but when we bought this house about 1 1/2 years ago in mts. edge, just can't catch anything anymore with it. Thats why I was forced by my family to get cox overpriced cable tv. Now, glad I'm getting most of the channels and its fairly solid and without antennas above the tv.

I don't have to move the antenna at all (or adjust the amplifer) to get the channels you mentioned, and 17.1, 18.1-4; 30.1-2, 39.1, 41.1, 47.1-5 (Retro TV, Cool TV, Movies+, etc). It's possible there are a couple of others that I'm not picking up.

that is a good and valid technical reason. However it's not always been that way. This happens more often now.
Have they started broadcasting dual channels recently?
Seems strange after three years I am just seeing it
IIRC they used to carry a weather subchannel and Universal Sports. I don't know when the weather was replaced with Untamed Sports, but that would have probably been the latest decline. I was in town for CES last month, and the NFL games on NBC were awful, and that's coming from someone who normally watches on an NBC station with 2 subchannels (weather and Universal Sports). It takes a lot of time and money to get 1 HD + 2 SD into an ATSC stream and have everything come out looking decent, and some stations have different priorities.

I don't have to move the antenna at all (or adjust the amplifer) to get the channels you mentioned, and 17.1, 18.1-4; 30.1-2, 39.1, 41.1, 47.1-5 (Retro TV, Cool TV, Movies+, etc). It's possible there are a couple of others that I'm not picking up.

Thanks man. Now I got a mission to get these other channels. BTW is your antenna on top of tv?

Next to the set in an upstairs room. (I have cable also, so I've not tried this on the ground floor.)

KGNG Movies+ on 47.5 is airing an occasional episode of a program called 'Your Brain On Tech'. What's unusual is that the program is an in-house production, and a KGNG exclusive. It's also quite professional looking.

IMO, this is what the FCC wants to see LPTV operators do with their bandwidth.

KGNG Movies+ on 47.5 is airing an occasional episode of a program called 'Your Brain On Tech'. What's unusual is that the program is an in-house production, and a KGNG exclusive. It's also quite professional looking.

IMO, this is what the FCC wants to see LPTV operators do with their bandwidth.

The problem with this channel, along with other subchannels, is that there is no schedule guide. You never know what's going to be on. In this day and age of the DVR, that's a big negative.

The problem with this channel, along with other subchannels, is that there is no schedule guide. You never know what's going to be on. In this day and age of the DVR, that's a big negative.

There is little that could be done as for providing a listing for the Movies+ schedule. These movies are run from a player with sporadic start/stop times. It's just fun to tune in and see what's airing. I use a dedicated DVR to time-shift, then scan through until I find a movie I want to watch.

Several of the other KGNG sub-channels do have a schedule available, or at least from their networks websites.

KLSV 50.2

I noticed this evening that KLSV digital rf 50 has added a new sub-channel on 50.2 that may be nothing more than infomercials. Last year on their website they promised 5 or 6 sub-channels when built out.

NBC tape delayed Olympics on the West Coast

If you are frustrated that NBC chooses to tape delay almost all Olympic events for the West Coast affiliates, then you may find this Seattle Times article of interest.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/2011098934_judd17.html

I don't think frustrated is the word I'd use. Pissed off would be better. You can't even go to NBC's website since they spoil it. I also have to stay away from Facebook, the my Yahoo Home Page, and AM Talk Radio.

Bought Panasonic Viera in June 2009, hooked up the TiVo, and the DS 9950. I have series 2 dual tuner TiVo which when the DS 9950 actually brings in the signal works well for recording (a few times channel didn't change, but is only maybe 1-2 times a month) Initially just had the same reception problems I had before the digital switch, but since Oct/Nov 2009 have had major issues trying to get ABC, CBS, and PBS to come in though the converter box so I haven't been able to record anything on those channels. There was about 1 week last month that magically all channels came in throught the DS & TiVo recorded beautifully. I have unplugged tv, TiVo, DS - re-programmed them all, set them all to defaults, moved the UHF/VHF antenna, switched line in/ch 3/4 input, checked and re-checked all cables, but nothing seems to help.

Have gone to the antenna site & have tried pointing Phillips MANT 510 VHF/UHF antenna in the direction indicated on the diagram, but has made little difference, in fact I find myself having to get up & move the blasted thing every hour or two as the screen goes blank with program unavailable flashing. I read on AVS antenna forum to turn off amplifier -- dead, nothing at all through tv or converter box.

Also I find so strange that DS occasionally picks up Vegas TV and JTV, but the Panasonic TV just has snow. The converter box also was picking up THIS_TV but on the TV it is only snow. But if I fiddle with the antenna ABC, CBS, and PBS will come in through the tv, but still no luck with the DS 9950????

I live in an apartment (Sahara & Nellis) management will not put antenna on roof or allow me to do so. I have been out of work since Sept and only worked for 4 months prior to that so paying for outrageous cable/satelite is out of the realm of possibilities, plus even when I could afford it I didn't purchase as I am satisfied with just the local channels.

??Many sat dishes in the complex, could they be interfering with my antenna & if they are, is there anything I can do to counter act this?

I just want to be able to watch my tv & use my TiVo to record any inexpensive suggestions?

I am not very technically inclined, know enough to hook things up, but that is about it.
As I have been reading various messages here I have several questions: What do the following things stand for/mean? tru2way, QAM, Moxi ,SDV (Switched digital Video), PSIP

Sorry so long & rambling, very tired and frustrated. I never wanted digital to begin with, everything worked so much better & easier with analog -- at least for my situation.

Thank you in advance for any & all assistance.

I'm sorry to hear you are out of work. I'm glad to hear though that you have the common sense to know that pay TV isn't a requirement.

First with the definitions you wanted to know.
tru2way is a new thing that cable companies are trying to get going. It's set top box software. Since you don't have cable you don't need to worry about it.

QAM is the way the channels are sent by the cable company. Over the air uses 8VSB or something like that. Since you don't have cable you don't need to worry about QAM either.

Moxi is a DVR company just like TiVo.

SDV is something some cable companies do. Your cable box requests a channel and it is assigned a slot so you can watch it. The effect is the cable company can offer more channels because not every channel is being watched by someone in your neighborhood. Since you don't have cable you don't need to worry about it.

PSIP is some metadata that is in the TV signal. Like here in Las Vegas Channel 3 is actually broadcast digitally on channel 2. The PSIP data tells your box to remap it to channel 3. It can also carry program guide information.

Now on to trying to help you receive those other channels. There are two sites that have TV towers on them. One is on Black Mountain towards Henderson and the other is on the mountain over Anthem. ABC, CBS, and PBS are those stations that broadcast from Anthem. NBC and Fox are from Black Mountain. Unlike many places in the country most of the big over the air channels are on the VHF frequency. In looking at the picture of your antenna you might try pushing the buttons on the front and see if it makes any difference. Also make sure the switch on the back is on ANT. Other things I have tried was to drape tin foil over the end of the poles to make it look like a flag. The other thing is to get a long cable for it and try the antenna in different parts of the room. I've found that your TV and other electronics there can block some of the signal. I also don't think anyone's satellite dish is blocking anything for you. They actually sell antennas that sit on those dishes.

If you have any more questions just let me know.

47.2

KGNG 47.2 has temporarily suspended network service from Hispanic religious broadcaster Aviva citing an unreliable signal. As a temporary replacement, KGNG is airing episodes of Beverly Hillbillies, Bonanza, The Lucy Show, Jack Benny, and perhaps some other very watchable programming.

Watch for 47.6 to sprout in the very near future, as well.

KEGS-LD

It seems that KEGS 30.1 and 30.2 are operating at a snail's pace revving up for programming. Their internal clock yesterday indicated it was June 2036 on their ID.

I've got a hunch that Mako will program the two subs of KEGS with GEMS and AMG. KEGS analog was an affiliate of AMG before the financial difficulties forced the station to bankruptcy and later bought by Mako.

47.2

KGNG 47.2 has temporarily suspended network service from Hispanic religious broadcaster Aviva citing an unreliable signal. As a temporary replacement, KGNG is airing episodes of Beverly Hillbillies, Bonanza, The Lucy Show, Jack Benny, and perhaps some other very watchable programming.



I'm still seeing Spanish programming on that channel.

KGNG 47.2

Bruin95: You waited to long. Hispanic netlet Aviva returned to KGNG 47.2 Saturday evening. I suspect the sitcoms and westerns that KGNG were running during the Aviva hiccup attack will probably reappear soon on 47.6. Just a hunch. I saw two episodes of Sky King. Those took me back a few years.

KGNG 47.2

Bruin95: You waited to long. Hispanic netlet Aviva returned to KGNG 47.2 Saturday evening. I suspect the sitcoms and westerns that KGNG were running during the Aviva hiccup attack will probably reappear soon on 47.6. Just a hunch. I saw two episodes of Sky King. Those took me back a few years.

Anything is better than another 24/7 infomercial channel. We've already got enough of them on the subchannels. Do they actually think that people watch that?

KGNG 47.6

This looks like the beginning of a decent sub-channel. KGNG has just added 47.6 to their line-up. I suspect that this sub-channel will be programmed from a 400 disc Sony DVD jukebox, similar to how their 47.5 Movies Plus stream is programmed. Look for classic vintage sitcoms, westerns, and dramas. The PSIP for 47.6 is only identified currently as "Program". American Movie Greats (AMG) will land on this sub in the near future, I hear.

At present, there seems to be a glitch with the audio. On one convertor box (APEX) their is a severe audio choppiness, while on a second (APEX) and third (Venturer) it's smooth sailing.

KGNG 47.6

American Movie Greats (AMG) will land on this sub in the near future, I hear.



There is a network named AMGTV (http://www.amgtv.tv/htmlindex.html). I assume this is not the same network you're talking about.

There is a network named AMGTV (http://www.amgtv.tv/htmlindex.html). I assume this is not the same network you're talking about.

It is. It's the same network that was on Las Vegas KEGS-LP 30 analog in 2008. It's similar to THIS (KVCW 33.2) without the flash or production values.

I hear that EPIX will be coming to Cox in April. Any other pending channels coming to Cox? With baseball season right around the corner, I would love to see FSN-West HD and FSN-Prime Ticket HD get lit up on the Cox system.

Last night, the Angels and White Sox played a spring training game. MLB-HD carried the game; but it was blacked out in Las Vegas, forcing Cox customers to watch it in SD on FSN-West.

I hear that EPIX will be coming to Cox in April. Any other pending channels coming to Cox? With baseball season right around the corner, I would love to see FSN-West HD and FSN-Prime Ticket HD get lit up on the Cox system.

Last night, the Angels and White Sox played a spring training game. MLB-HD carried the game; but it was blacked out in Las Vegas, forcing Cox customers to watch it in SD on FSN-West.

I wish they would get those too.

How come when I call from my home phone which is a blocked number, Cox shows my number. My phone is with CenturyLink

How come when I call from my home phone which is a blocked number, Cox shows my number. My phone is with CenturyLink

Are you sure it's a blocked number and not just an unlisted number.

it is blocked

are you sure its blocked?

are you sure its blocked?
My number is blocked, it will not go through to people who dont take unblocked calls, yet when I call Cox they ask if I am calling about the service at 702 xxx xxxx

Caller ID blocking only blocks caller ID. Businesses use better systems like Automatic Number Identification that still work even when caller ID is blocked.

If you're calling a toll-free number, your number is not blocked.

If you're calling a toll-free number, your number is not blocked.

its not a 800 number

its not a 800 number


"800" is not the only toll-free prefix...

"800" is not the only toll-free prefix...

I dialed the local Las Vegas number.

That doesn't mean that the local number didn't forward you to an 800 number.

Perhaps only to satisfy my curiosty, I'd be interested to know what Las Vegas sub-channels you are watching on a semi-regular basis. Any particular shows on the subs that you watch regularly? Thumbs up or down on any sub-channel network?

K46KA Pahrump

I'm getting a very faint signal of between 0-6% today on 46.1. This should be the 15kw transmitter of K46KA in Pahrump that is a rebroadcast of KPVM. It's 46 miles distant from my location, and too weak for an indoor Silver Sensor. Anyone near Southern Highlands or Blue Diamond able to catch a stable signal?

Unrelated to the above, but watch out for another rate increase from the fine folks at Cox Cable coming in March.

Just got my new bill. Basic went up $3.04 to $16.04, Digital converter (hddvr) went from $5.25 to $7.50, DVR service went down from $11.95 to $9.99, Internet service went up $2 to $28.99 (preferred tier). total change +$5.74.

[QUOTE=gvc;18315350]Just got my new bill. Basic went up $3.04 to $16.04, Digital converter (hddvr) went from $5.25 to $7.50, DVR service went down from $11.95 to $9.99, Internet service went up $2 to $28.99 (preferred tier). total change +$5.74.[/QUOTE

Pricing is getting a little rich for me. Not many new HD channels. I am paying more money for the same converter box I have had for 7 years, does not seem right! Time to look elsewhere.

Pricing is getting a little rich for me. Not many new HD channels.

Not many? Try NONE. I can't remember the last time COX added an HD channel.

Not many? Try NONE. I can't remember the last time COX added an HD channel.

Cox ARE YOU LISTENING

Cox ARE YOU LISTENING

Are you kidding?

Cox ARE YOU LISTENING

hahaha. i called cox recently and had them lower my bill from $250 to $165.
the entire conversation i had to have with a manager because their tier1 people are terrible was like this:

"so, i know that my price is an old package you dont offer, but HYPOTHETICALLY what would it cost to remove most all of my extra channels... please tell me!"

eventually we ended up with:

analog channels 2-98
hd channels 703-768 (with one hddvr box)
the filipino channel
the highest speed internet (10 meg not the 50 meg)
phone service with no long distance, but with caller ID, call waiting.

no hbo/showtime etc.
i can do an $8.99 netflix account for all that. Hell, starz alone costs $14.95 a month, and i can easilly download spartacus every week.

but the conversation went to rate increases and this manager told me that cox has to increase the rates because the carriers increase theirs.
funny huh?
i told her that wasnt the truth in most cases... but in a nice way because she was after all, in charge of my new monthly rate.

[QUOTE=gvc;18315350]Just got my new bill. Basic went up $3.04 to $16.04, Digital converter (hddvr) went from $5.25 to $7.50, DVR service went down from $11.95 to $9.99, Internet service went up $2 to $28.99 (preferred tier). total change +$5.74.[/QUOTE

Pricing is getting a little rich for me. Not many new HD channels. I am paying more money for the same converter box I have had for 7 years, does not seem right! Time to look elsewhere.

for me, if they were to UPDATE THE PROGRAMMING GUIDE, i would be happy.
i hate the guide on cox.
the one thing positive about it: it is efficient, gets the job done with minimal lag... other than that it has a featureset from circa 2001... not the sort of advanced services that i want to pay for each month..

the channel 1 guide works well. it is nicely laid out, but still laggy in terms of search etc.

i think we will never see a nice guide on cox.
THEY HAVE BEEN PROMISING ITS IN TESTING FOR THREE YEARS NOW

ive lost all hope.

[QUOTE=vegashomes;18318988]
ive lost all hope.

Wait until Vegas gets CenturyLink Digital Cable.. then Cox will be forced to keep up to stay competitive.

Can't wait for the day when Vegas will no longer only have Cox as a choice for Non-Satellite Digital Cable.

eventually we ended up with:

the highest speed internet (10 meg not the 50 meg)

Uh...that's not the highest speed COX offers (not talking about the 50 meg plan either).

Uh...that's not the highest speed COX offers (not talking about the 50 meg plan either).



Well either way, it is a moot point as their internet speed are so wildly off that I think there is a lawsuit there somewhere. I just think that since I lay for ten and get FIVE-like speed and that's ok with me then it is a shame that I can't jus pay for five down and use that because cox has that testing like a 2meg connection.

Internet in america tends to cost too much IMHO. Back home (Canada) high speed seems to be higher speed with far less caps and for less per month.
At least when I left that's how it was

[QUOTE=vegas-steven;18324498]

Wait until Vegas gets CenturyLink Digital Cable.. then Cox will be forced to keep up to stay competitive.

Can't wait for the day when Vegas will no longer only have Cox as a choice for Non-Satellite Digital Cable.


I really doubt that will ever happen. Thats if you are thinking of cable. Cox own all the cable lines in the valley and no one will lay down a new set of lines just to compete with an established co. Not cost effective. Not unless cox is willing to rent out their cable lines? Or cox goes bankrupt.

KMCC Las Vegas/Laughlin

I noticed yesterday that the fine folks at Cox have moved OTA 32.1 broadcaster KMCC, Las Vegas/Laughlin, from clear QAM 32.1 to clear QAM 33.1. This must make sense to someone, just not to me.

Still missing from COX clear QAM are KVMY Estella 21.2 and KVCW This TV 33.2.

[QUOTE=LVseller03;18325702]


I really doubt that will ever happen. Thats if you are thinking of cable. Cox own all the cable lines in the valley and no one will lay down a new set of lines just to compete with an established co. Not cost effective. Not unless cox is willing to rent out their cable lines? Or cox goes bankrupt.

Centurylink is the phone company in town so they are rolling out a service much like FIOS or U-Verse. It uses the phone lines so they aren't starting from scratch.

I feel people mesh the terms together. Of course centurylink won't use the cox lines, they will use whatever their technology uses (fiber?) but to many it is all just digital cable

Just got my bill, and it was actually lower. Charged for only one DVR fee instead of two, maybe one per household now? Bundling rates for cable, phone and internet dropped too.

More HD.
EpixHD, EncoreHD Disney something, Fox News NHL, and a few other channels are supposed to be launching in April.

Guide.
Cox everywhere has moved entirely to the latest Passport guide for all STBs and has been testing in Las Vegas since last year. Launch is imminent in Vegas although customer notifications have to go out for DVR scheduling and personal settings changes. The changes are familiar if you have used the passport guide in other markets or cable cos, but with a lot of new features and functions, including a useful search, priority, folder views and keyword recording, etc.
On Demand is completely new and redesigned to go along with the new guide with direct access to any of the services from within the guide
The completely new HD three tier guide format is also on its way later in the year for advanced and HD users. This is the one being shown around the country at the cable shows and was developed specifically for Cox by NDS.

Internet speed.
Just got another laptop and discovered my speed was much faster on the new laptop by a large margin, faster that advertised on mid-tier. I also discovered that my speeds to Los Angeles and SF servers have dropped, but my speeds to Atlanta have remained consistent or increased. Speed testing in general has shown that heavy traffic times vary across the day and night and around the country, with an all time low during the Northeast blizzard bringing things to a crawl for anything coming out of that area a while back.

vegggas

Just got my bill, and it was actually lower. Charged for only one DVR fee instead of two, maybe one per household now? Bundling rates for cable, phone and internet dropped too.

More HD.
EpixHD, EncoreHD Disney something, Fox News NHL, and a few other channels are supposed to be launching in April.



Fox News NHL????

They already have Fox News and NHL Network. What are you trying to say here?

Epixhd is a paid only deal, so is encore. We've had fox and NHL almost a year. Most all Disney is fake hd

when arenas getting the guide. When.
I've been told that it's been in testing for three years now.

When can i set my DVr from the net
when can my dvr be smart and search and reccomend

In other words when will it be like TiVo/ditectv/dish net

Cox everywhere has moved entirely to the latest Passport guide for all STBs and has been testing in Las Vegas since last year. Launch is imminent in Vegas although customer notifications have to go out for DVR scheduling and personal settings changes. The changes are familiar if you have used the passport guide in other markets or cable cos, but with a lot of new features and functions, including a useful search, priority, folder views and keyword recording, etc.

this has 100% NOT happened where i am in las Vegas. Where is this new guide.
My box instead becomes very laggy around 4am each day and I assume it is downloading guide data etc but can't tell for sure

but yea. If the guide did roll out I imagine it would be a very active topic in this thread.

I no longer keep track of all the HD channels, so sue me :p I think it was Fox Business, Disney XD, HAllmark and a few others.
I know that there are about 25 HD channels coming this year and specifically, more HD is coming to the movie tier. I you already subscribe to the movie tier, Epix, Encore and associated group movie channels will be included, or you could pony up the individual a la cart prices. There is a lot going on over in the main Cox thread about this.
For the passport guide, I have seen it and have used it. I am impressed by the new interface and it works well. As far as I know, Cox has had to delay the launch to deliver the mandated customer notifications because it will effect their individual settings and scheduled recordings, etc and they are still working with the software designer to limit these issues as much as possible.
When will it be like DirecTV or Dish? Probably Never. Like Tivo, maybe a lot sooner than expected.

vegggas

Like i said before I forfieted my hbo deal for Netflix $9 hd streaming.

Vegasss I know u work for them right?
And trust me u r one of the GREAT ones but it's been since I got my HDTV that they've been testing it. No lie, a cox account rep at ultimate electronics who didn't work in store but was there to make sure all the cox stuff was working etc. He told me about gemstar etc. Said it was in testing

that was march of 2007 lol!!

I no longer keep track of all the HD channels, so sue me :p I think it was Fox Business, Disney XD, HAllmark and a few others.
I know that there are about 25 HD channels coming this year and specifically, more HD is coming to the movie tier. I you already subscribe to the movie tier, Epix, Encore and associated group movie channels will be included, or you could pony up the individual a la cart prices. There is a lot going on over in the main Cox thread about this.
For the passport guide, I have seen it and have used it. I am impressed by the new interface and it works well. As far as I know, Cox has had to delay the launch to deliver the mandated customer notifications because it will effect their individual settings and scheduled recordings, etc and they are still working with the software designer to limit these issues as much as possible.
When will it be like DirecTV or Dish? Probably Never. Like Tivo, maybe a lot sooner than expected.

vegggas

I just thought you made a typo and meant Fox Sports West (which shows NHL games). I was just checking to be sure.

There is no way Cox is going to let their DVR pull in all the internet stuff like TiVo does. Does anyone really think that Cox is going to put up Netflix streaming like TiVo has?

Like i said before I forfieted my hbo deal for Netflix $9 hd streaming.

Vegasss I know u work for them right?
And trust me u r one of the GREAT ones but it's been since I got my HDTV that they've been testing it. No lie, a cox account rep at ultimate electronics who didn't work in store but was there to make sure all the cox stuff was working etc. He told me about gemstar etc. Said it was in testing

that was march of 2007 lol!!

No Vegasss doesn't work for Cox. He does those custom installs for hotels and such. He just has a lot of sources that do work for Cox.

How do they deliver said notifications... Via statements?
How about put A message on the guide after each restart for a few weeks?

That may work. But then again I'm not "your friend in the digital age"

I just thought you made a typo and meant Fox Sports West (which shows NHL games). I was just checking to be sure.

There is no way Cox is going to let their DVR pull in all the internet stuff like TiVo does. Does anyone really think that Cox is going to put up Netflix streaming like TiVo has?

There are supposed to be three guides coming down the pike.
Change out of SARA to Passport for all STBs nationwide - 1st to 2nd quarter rollouts varying with each market.
Advance Cox and NDS HD guide 2nd to 4th quarter rollouts varying with each market.
Tivo - TBD

Tivo is working on a tru2way version for cable co's to deploy as an advanced software interface. This is tru2way software to run on the Cisco and eventually Moto hardware, and not the version already being used in New England markets with Cox and Comcast up their.

With the Cox owned NDS developed advanced HD guide coming, there are a lot of internet and social networking interfaces proposed to go along with the remote scheduling and viewing across all cox services (including wireless) and personal streaming, etc. No specific details yet, but it is coming to some markets 2nd quarter, but Vegas will probably have to wait until 3rd or even 4th quarter for advanced HD guide

vegggas

3rd or 4th quarter if which year.













Yes, I am scorned and bitter over it...

3rd or 4th quarter if which year.

Yes, I am scorned and bitter over it...
As heard in the latest Cox ramblings this month, this year, 2010 for the advanced Cox owned guide. It is in use in some markets by employees and friendly testers.
The Passport guide is in use, in Las Vegas, by all employees and some friendly testers right now, just awaiting approval for launch.

Speaking of scorned, when is DirecTV going to have those 100 HD channels it promised several years ago in it's big announcements and marketing blast? :rolleyes:

Official AVS National HD Channel Lineups - Cable/DBS/Fiber/IPTV - Updated 02/11/10!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14422029#post14422029

Wow look at all the orange on the cox colum. I'm not dumping on them and while ditectv doesn't have 100 channels they have the most green of all these provides.

I don't get it at all. What makes it hard for cox cable to offer these channels. Is it regional contracts? Does d* pay that much more for them?

That list doesn't show all the RSN's that Directv carries in HD. Also the list is wrong because Directv now has Vs. in HD. It started back a couple days ago. Plus they count all the worthless PPV channels. It's not the number I care about. It's just the channels I like to watch that I care about. Cox can't even touch Directv with sports in HD.

Wow look at all the orange on the cox colum. I'm not dumping on them and while ditectv doesn't have 100 channels they have the most green of all these provides.

I don't get it at all. What makes it hard for cox cable to offer these channels. Is it regional contracts? Does d* pay that much more for them?

DirecTV is a single owned and operated provider with a blanket US coverage. One system, with a system wide output. The only time individual markets come to play is when local channels are needed and they exclude distant networks from being inserted into their local territory.
Each cable market, and oftentimes a market is broken down to individual franchise regions in the same market with varying infrastructure capabilities, has to abide by all local franchise rules. Cox Las Vegas has to several franchise regulators it has to appease to be able to do anything in this city, and one rule is that a service can't be rolled out in one area, and not the others. This is bad, when you have all new fiber infrastructure in one part of the valley, but 20 year old cabling in another that limits how much you can deploy. The franchise authorities say you can't roll out 20 new channels in the newly developed areas without offering it to the older areas too, so cox is in a continuous upgrade process around the valley.
The orange you see in that list is what Cox has contracted as a company, but it has to add individual contracts for each channel in each market. If you look at the list, Cox does have a lot of the HD channel available, but if it is not in EVERY market, it is listed as limited availability.

vegggas

I no longer keep track of all the HD channels, so sue me :p I think it was Fox Business, Disney XD, HAllmark and a few others.
I know that there are about 25 HD channels coming this year and specifically, more HD is coming to the movie tier. I you already subscribe to the movie tier, Epix, Encore and associated group movie channels will be included, or you could pony up the individual a la cart prices. There is a lot going on over in the main Cox thread about this.
For the passport guide, I have seen it and have used it. I am impressed by the new interface and it works well. As far as I know, Cox has had to delay the launch to deliver the mandated customer notifications because it will effect their individual settings and scheduled recordings, etc and they are still working with the software designer to limit these issues as much as possible.
When will it be like DirecTV or Dish? Probably Never. Like Tivo, maybe a lot sooner than expected.

vegggas

Great to here about the new hd channel additions I have wanted disney XD HD for so long. Do you know about when in aprill they may be launching? And since we are talking about cox do you have any info on cox implimenting switched digital video here in las vegas I ask because I am a tivo user.

Great to here about the new hd channel additions I have wanted disney XD HD for so long. Do you know about when in aprill they may be launching? And since we are talking about cox do you have any info on cox implimenting switched digital video here in las vegas I ask because I am a tivo user.

I don't know of any specific launch dates, and they are subject to change anyway, unless announced. The last I heard specifically for Vegas was new channels for April, including Epix and Disneyxd as well as a free digital movie service called vutopia.
http://www.hd-report.com/2010/03/05/cox-to-launch-epix-hd-vutopia/
Cox to launch Epix HD, Vutopia
by Jeffrey Nukom on March 5, 2010

Cox Communications will start rolling out Epix HD and on-demand channel “Vutopia” to its markets on April 1. Epix HD is a premium movie channel from Viacom Inc., Paramount Pictures, MGM and Lionsgate. The channel is normally offered for $9.99 per month.

Vutopia is a new On Demand movie service available to digital movie tier subscribers at no additional charge. Whether or not the channel will be offered in high-definition is not clear yet.

Other HD channels to launch soon on Cox include Disney XD HD Hallmark Channel HD. We’ll get you more details on upcoming HD channels on Cox as we get them.


I haven't heard anything about SDV in Vegas, so it's probably not coming anytime soon. If they were to use it here, they would have to go through a lot of testing that would take a long time to implement.

vegggas

Great to here about the new hd channel additions I have wanted disney XD HD for so long. Do you know about when in aprill they may be launching? And since we are talking about cox do you have any info on cox implimenting switched digital video here in las vegas I ask because I am a tivo user.

i wonder how much actual "hd" they will air. I've watched some
of the other networks hd offerings and it's always just standard def with the occasional hd movie thrown in.

That's not cox's issue really, it's an abc thing where they don't film natively.

I don't know of any specific launch dates, and they are subject to change anyway, unless announced. The last I heard specifically for Vegas was new channels for April, including Epix and Disneyxd as well as a free digital movie service called vutopia.
http://www.hd-report.com/2010/03/05/cox-to-launch-epix-hd-vutopia/


I haven't heard anything about SDV in Vegas, so it's probably not coming anytime soon. If they were to use it here, they would have to go through a lot of testing that would take a long time to implement.

vegggas
Don't know if you saw my question regarding the program guide or if u know any answer but what sort of actual
notice do they need to push to customers about program guides etc

seems the most efficient way to do that would be to put a notice at bootup that hey, the times they are a changing in xx days. And then next week same thing

that would be the mist efficient way.
Also consider do many people out there aren't like us here, they don't read bills. Many of them pay them and just file statements.

$10 for one channel. Wow that's steep. I pay $15 for HBO, but at least I get a hand full of them to hope something I want to watch is on.

Don't know if you saw my question regarding the program guide or if u know any answer but what sort of actual
notice do they need to push to customers about program guides etc

seems the most efficient way to do that would be to put a notice at bootup that hey, the times they are a changing in xx days. And then next week same thing

that would be the mist efficient way.
Also consider do many people out there aren't like us here, they don't read bills. Many of them pay them and just file statements.

It's not just a guide change. The guide is also part of the SARA OS and it's a complete change out to the Passport OS. You could think of it as much a change from a Windows OS to an Apple OS.
As for how they are required to give notice, the franchise authorities in the area set those parameters. Once they get the go-ahead, they usually post in the local classified under notices, which is a usually good place to find a lot of that type of information. When the date gets closer, they may have several added channels and commercials explaining what is coming.
Using boot up wouldn't work, because most people don't even turn their cable box off, let alone reboot it and watch it while it is rebooting.

vegggas

Wow look at all the orange on the cox colum. I'm not dumping on them and while ditectv doesn't have 100 channels they have the most green of all these provides.



I don't know what chart you were looking at, but D* came in 9th of the 14 providers listed. Even COX beat them.

$10 for one channel. Wow that's steep. I pay $15 for HBO, but at least I get a hand full of them to hope something I want to watch is on.
I've gotten used to just looking through On Demand to watch the library of premium content there if I want to watch something immediately. Epix will also be available On Demand and looks like online too.
I heard it might be already included if you have the movie pack tier, which is where all the Encore channels, Sundance, IFC and Lifetime channels are located.

From Epix' website
What is EPIX?
EPIX is the big new movie channel that's more than just a big new movie channel. Paramount, Lionsgate, and MGM are turning their biggest movies, original programming, and expansive library into a bold new experience. The movies you love will never change, but the way you watch them is about to...

It's a cable TV channel. It's a VOD service on your set-top box. It's a web site with movies. If you subscribe to EPIX, you get it all.


vegggas

i wonder how much actual "hd" they will air. I've watched some
of the other networks hd offerings and it's always just standard def with the occasional hd movie thrown in.

That's not cox's issue really, it's an abc thing where they don't film natively.

I want Disney XD HD for one reason and one reason only. The Spectacular Spider-Man which was natively shot in HD and among the first cartoons to do so. It is one of the best shows on tv in terms of writing qualtiy and story content. Give it a try it is really good show and you will understand why I want to see it in HD.

I don't know of any specific launch dates, and they are subject to change anyway, unless announced. The last I heard specifically for Vegas was new channels for April, including Epix and Disneyxd as well as a free digital movie service called vutopia.
http://www.hd-report.com/2010/03/05/cox-to-launch-epix-hd-vutopia/


I haven't heard anything about SDV in Vegas, so it's probably not coming anytime soon. If they were to use it here, they would have to go through a lot of testing that would take a long time to implement.

vegggas

Thanks for answering my question. It seemed that with the slowdown of new HD channel adds over the last year, I was worried that cox was running out of bandwidth and have to resort to using SDV.

I don't know what chart you were looking at, but D* came in 9th of the 14 providers listed. Even COX beat them.

That chart is misleading. They don't count RSN's (which D* has a bunch of) or PPV (which someone must watch for them to be that many of them). But like I've said before it's not about the number of HD channels it's about if the channels you watch are in HD. It wouldn't matter if D* or Cox had 200 HD channels if your favorite one is in SD you wouldn't be happy.

Just got my bill, and it was actually lower. Charged for only one DVR fee instead of two, maybe one per household now? Bundling rates for cable, phone and internet dropped too.

vegggas


I got charged for 2 dvr boxes ($15.00 total) and 2 dvr services ($19.98 total). Is it confirmed that its now supposed to be only 1 charge per household?

I got charged for 2 dvr boxes ($15.00 total) and 2 dvr services ($19.98 total). Is it confirmed that its now supposed to be only 1 charge per household?
Dunno? Maybe a billing error on mine :D I don't have the insert laying around to tell me the new rates, but I have a lot of bundled services and there were several small price drops on the bill related to those.

Oh wow. Screenshot of the new guide... Found this on page 40 of the regular cox general thread. Go to page 6 for the screenshot:

http://www.ctam.com/html/tru2way/FieldGuide2009.pdf

BEAUTIFUL!!

Oh wow. Screenshot of the new guide... Found this on page 40 of the regular cox general thread. Go to page 6 for the screenshot:

http://www.ctam.com/html/tru2way/FieldGuide2009.pdf

BEAUTIFUL!!

I posted that back on 10-07-09, 01:08 PM along with the other article and followup about the NDS agreement.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17314951#post17314951

For the record this is the tru2way and HD enhanced guide coming out later in the year that will run on tru2way STB's and TVs. Some markets are already testing it now. The first guide change for Cox will be to the Passport OS to get off the SARA OS.

vegggas

Quick introduction to the general Passport Guide

http://www.rovicorp.com/products/service_providers/guide_sp/passport_guide.htm?link_id=rightnav


OVERVIEW:
Passport Guide

Rovi's Passport® Guide provides an advanced interactive program guide (IPG) for DVR and non DVR-enabled, digital cable TV set-tops. This digital cable TV guide fully supports analog, digital, and HD broadcast signals as well as integration with third-party applications.

Passport® Guide enables digital cable TV operators to:

Facilitate digital cable TV program search and navigation

* View digital cable TV program information in a variety of formats - from listings to detailed information about specific shows
* Search for digital cable TV programs by typing titles into an on-screen keyboard using your remote
* See what's happening on a specific digital cable TV program, and view in-depth TV program information at the same time
* List digital cable TV programs by "themes" or categories such as football, cooking, or Pay-Per-View

Simplify digital cable TV program recording and management

* Easily modify recording options for scheduled TV shows, including start and end times and save options
* Fine tune digital cable TV series recording options, including how many TV show episodes to keep, first run or repeats, and recording priorities

Deliver value-added services and increase business opportunities

* Display multiple thumbnail video streams on a single channel for faster recording and navigation of TV programs
* Create a QuickMenu™ as a promotion tool to showcase cable TV services
* Integrate an impulse subscription tool, enabling viewers to purchase service packages instantly with their remotes
* Provide informative content such as local weather updates and detailed instruction for programming multi-function remote controls

http://www.rovicorp.com/ipgresources/ipg/images/PassportGuide350.jpg

FEATURES:
Listings View
Displays 90 minutes and 5 channels of programming and has custom sorting, filtering and language options.

Theme View
Displays up to 7 days of data in nested categories that included recorded programs, ratings and options for custom sorting, displaying and hiding.

Banner Browsing
Banner area displays current programming along with program details, including time, title, channel information, and length of show; current position of show and how much has been recorded onto the DVR; as well as play, fast forward, rewind, and pause buttons.

Quick Info™
Detailed information for programs is displayed with scaled down video display for easier channel browsing.

QuickMenu™
Configurable menu allows viewers to launch cable TV services with a few remote clicks. Menus can be configured with services such as on-demand, Pay-Per-View, messages, and third-party games—as well as logos and descriptions.

Search
Use the innovative title and keyword search utilizing a virtual keyboard to search all available data in the set-top box.

Parental Controls
Parental Controls restrict viewing of specific programs by TV rating, TV content advisory rating, MPAA rating, program title or channel based on consumer's viewing preferences. Parents can secure television viewing by a specific range of time.

Pay-Per-View Purchase
Order PPV and/or on demand programming with impulse purchase.

DVR (Digital Video Recording)
Control live television with pause, rewind and fast-forward functionality, one-touch record a program, record an entire series, record from a keyword search. Replay an individual show, or group replay an entire series. Manage your DVR with individual or group deletion options.

ShowRunner VOD
Passport® Guide has a fully integrated On Demand client services feature that can be headend configured for a variety of On Demand services including SVOD. Typically genres or categories are menu scrollable on the horizontal plane menu and titles are vertically scrollable. The menu's intuitive nature easily walks a viewer through the On Demand purchase process.

Venue
Venue is a configurable and biaxial navigational interface with scrollable categories on the horizontal axis and scrollable listings on the vertical axis. Venue can be set as the default power-on channel to promote premium channels and to help guide subscribers to the most popular services. Venue can also be used to create an intuitive hierarchical interface seamlessly linking any navigational, informational or revenue generating services with multiple Venue virtual channels. Enrich the subscriber's interactive experience while driving revenue with Venue.

There is a 4 page 6Mb PDF about Passport and Rovi that can be found on the resources tab.

vegggas

Well it sure beats what they have now, but there seems to be a lot of wasted space.

Well it sure beats what they have now, but there seems to be a lot of wasted space.

Care to elaborate?
vegggas

Care to elaborate?
vegggas

Sure if they kept all that gray space out they could extend the graph and you would be able to see more channels per screen.

Sure if they kept all that gray space out they could extend the graph and you would be able to see more channels per screen.

It's not a graphics design issue, but a hardware and memory issue that has to universal for all legacy STB's. The new advanced NDS guide later this year, see a few posts back, probably does what you are looking for with an HD guide and options for more channels to be displayed at once.

vegggas

It's not a graphics design issue, but a hardware and memory issue that has to universal for all legacy STB's. The new advanced NDS guide later this year, see a few posts back, probably does what you are looking for with an HD guide and options for more channels to be displayed at once.

vegggas

and that is one good reason why i think it is taking so long to push updates out.
many of these boxes are how old hardware wise... 7+ years?

and that is one good reason why i think it is taking so long to push updates out.
many of these boxes are how old hardware wise... 7+ years?

I have digi-boxes that are still functioning in the 10 year old range. That is why there has to be so much testing to have a solution that is universal. I would bet there are tens of thousands of much older STB's here in Vegas that may pose problems if not thoroughly tested.

vegggas

Any good reason why we still don't have HDNet on Cox? Any plans to get it?

Thx.

That really is sad that the old hardware can't handle more then 5 lines of guide data. I'm with vegggas though with regards for testing. This stuff has to be right and cause no problems. I don't want to get a call from my grandma saying the TV is messed up again. I'm also sure Cox doesn't want thousands of grandmas calling them saying their TV is messed up too.

That really is sad that the old hardware can't handle more then 5 lines of guide data. I'm with vegggas though with regards for testing. This stuff has to be right and cause no problems. I don't want to get a call from my grandma saying the TV is messed up again. I'm also sure Cox doesn't want thousands of grandmas calling them saying their TV is messed up too.



At the same time the satellite providers have kept the pace in regards to updating hardware. They do not have as many subscribers though so I guess it costs them less... But it would have hurt cox to have said back in 2007 "well wenare promising an awful lot in 3 years, let's start a roll out of boxes to new subs now and swap old hardware in homes with new as we go along"

that would have over three years all but weeded out those legacy boxes.

At the same time the satellite providers have kept the pace in regards to updating hardware. They do not have as many subscribers though so I guess it costs them less... But it would have hurt cox to have said back in 2007 "well wenare promising an awful lot in 3 years, let's start a roll out of boxes to new subs now and swap old hardware in homes with new as we go along"

that would have over three years all but weeded out those legacy boxes.

Here, Here I agree totally, If Cox would communicate with their customers, then, even 6 months ago they could have said, This roll out is coming and you will need to be upgraded to a newer STB, (I assume most if not all DVRs are not a problem). The customers on "these" specific boxes will need to schedule a service call or go to a Cox store and exchange them. Cox has no problem running commercials at least once per hour on every channel telling us how wonderful they are, (Aren't we already subscribers????). Why then would it be so hard to communicate an important upcoming change to our service via these we're so wonderful commercials? Besides that, Cox already knows which customers have which exact STB. Cox could actually reach out to those customers with Old STBs (perhaps by carrier pigeon) or better yet a letter and phone calls, to let them know of the required changes.

Remember..We're Your Friend in the Digital Age®, More like the stone age.

Just like the switch to Digital TV people were given a warning long in advance and told what to do, If they choose to do nothing then, Lights Out until they got the proper equipment.

Ironically, I just had a similar topic posting in the Cox thread...

Also of note (full article in link, but interesting part quoted below)
http://www.cablefax.com/ct/news/ctreports/commentary/36825.html

July 23, 2009
Cox, TiVo, AP Execs Debate Channel Surfing —Steve Donohue
<snip>
Pickelsimer said "legacy issues and legal issues" have hampered improvement of the user interface that Cox and other cable operators use with their interactive program guides (IPGs).

"What has hampered us in terms of speed is we have this legacy technology where we have 30 different box types and every application we have has to be specifically ported to those box types. There's no such thing as rapid application development in that sort of environment," Pickelsimer said.
<snip>
Pickelsimer said Cox is in the process of transitioning systems that currently use SARA to the Passport IPG. She said the company is also developing its own tru2way IPG with technology from NDS, but she didn't say when that guide would be commercially deployed.


vegggas

Well u either become a trend setter or you become a follower.

If Sony had followed nintendo we would still be using cartridges on video game systems... If blackberry hadn't devolped it's push messaging service we might never had developed texting to what it is today...

Btw vegggas, it seems to me cox isn't giving consumers enough credit for what they want. Don't go and group content by type... To me house and say, lost are very different shows and to someone else may be the same.

But they claim keyboards are not relevant etc. Really? Just tell apple (iTunes store) that or netflix... Or boxee.

People are smarter than they give them credit for. Searching by actor is one of the features that make TiVo look so good.

It sets a dangerous tone to TELL users what they want.
No one asked me!

I truly believe that if centurylink can offer good services out here that cox will lose customers who want more.

I do computer repair and each week I see more and more clear Internet setups. They are not as fast as cox but they cost less and are fine for most consumers.
Consumers want choice and price points they like. Cox can warn all they want about hidden fees but it's like arguing the differnce between red and crimson to someone who looks at art from 10 feet away simply to see a nice painting, not every single brush stroke

I agree, Centurylink has finaly arrived, and Las Vegas will now have competition. :)

KGNG 47.6

After some minor tech issues being worked out over the past month, KGNG has now added AMG to sub-channel 47.6. AMG is a decent network seen on a collection of stations, providing mostly movies. Check the KGNG web site for a program schedule.

Once again, KGNG needs, and deserves, our applause for being on the cutting edge of providing OTA viewers with a variety of sub-channel programming that does more than just spew out informercials only.

I agree, Centurylink has finaly arrived, and Las Vegas will now have competition. :)

But aren't they are just another satellite service for tv shows, and dsl service for internet?

I think they are trying to do something similar to Verizon with Fios, but I'm not sure.

KEGS 30.2

KEGS Las Vegas is finally sending some programming through their transmitter. After two months of spotty transmission of color bars and a occasional tone, the Mako owned station today is spewing forth with Hispanic religion of 30.2 from the Almavision network. This is the same programming that can be seen on KVPX analog channel 28 in the Vegas valley.

KEGS 30.1 is still sitting on black, but I'm guessing it will eventually provide the programming from the GEMS shopping channel.

I think they are trying to do something similar to Verizon with Fios, but I'm not sure.


From sprint to embarq to centurylink, I really have ignored/avoided the tel service of las vegas. But if you know if they actually have the fios technology(or similar to it) going on with fiber optics then I am interested in trying their internet service. I tried searching but can't find any info yet. It'll probably take a while-- change of name same technology.

You guys probably know this already....Channel 15.1 ota is true hd now...I just noticed it a couple of weeks ago.

KEGS 30.2


KEGS 30.1 is still sitting on black, but I'm guessing it will eventually provide the programming from the GEMS shopping channel.

And yet another waste of bandwith. Do they honestly expect people to watch this crap?

CenturyLink's highest Internet speed is 10Mbit, which pretty much guarantees that they aren't doing FTTH like FiOS; you wouldn't spend money to build a FTTH network only to offer service slower than your competition's standard tier. Probably doing something similar to U-verse, basically fiber to the neighborhood and high speed DSL from there, with half of the bandwidth dedicated to IPTV.

If its similar to att u-verse then I read somewhere that its limited to 2 hdtv/house. Cant feed more than 2 hdtv signal simultaneously.

CenturyLink's highest Internet speed is 10Mbit, which pretty much guarantees that they aren't doing FTTH like FiOS; you wouldn't spend money to build a FTTH network only to offer service slower than your competition's standard tier. Probably doing something similar to U-verse, basically fiber to the neighborhood and high speed DSL from there, with half of the bandwidth dedicated to IPTV.

its that "last mile" problem again? the same thing that the telephone company always complains about.

according to this site:
http://www.centurylink.com/Pages/Personal/SpecialOffers/mediaRoom.jsp

the "advanced tv" services is available in two markets, Columbia and Jefferson City, MO... so i guess they would HAVE to be like test markets, as they arent exactly major metro areas.

If you watch the videos on that page, they record up to 4 channels at one time on any tv in the house... and the setup is driven by microsoft.

For a DISGUSTING $138.89 a month you get:

My Premium TV
High-Speed Internet up to 3 Mbps
Unlimited Calling
FREE HD for 3 months
FREE Whole Home DVR
Over 200 all-digital channels, including digital music
Includes My TV, My Complete TV and over 20 additional movie channels like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and Starz/Encore
Pay Per View and Video On Demand

i say disgusting because of the internet speeds. Come on! i get cox's what... 12mbps is it? i have all channels but 768+ and i pay $156 a month.

the internet speed is the factor for me there. WAAAY to slow.
never mind the fact that after three months i suppose HD starts to cost you (!) and i am pretty certain you are locked into a 12 month contract with them.

I see why cox probably isnt worried.

according to this site:
http://www.centurylink.com/Pages/Personal/SpecialOffers/mediaRoom.jsp

the "advanced tv" services is available in two markets, Columbia and Jefferson City, MO... so i guess they would HAVE to be like test markets, as they arent exactly major metro areas.

If you watch the videos on that page, they record up to 4 channels at one time on any tv in the house... and the setup is driven by microsoft.

For a DISGUSTING $138.89 a month you get:

My Premium TV
High-Speed Internet up to 3 Mbps
Unlimited Calling
FREE HD for 3 months
FREE Whole Home DVR
Over 200 all-digital channels, including digital music
Includes My TV, My Complete TV and over 20 additional movie channels like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and Starz/Encore
Pay Per View and Video On Demand

i say disgusting because of the internet speeds. Come on! i get cox's what... 12mbps is it? i have all channels but 768+ and i pay $156 a month.

the internet speed is the factor for me there. WAAAY to slow.
never mind the fact that after three months i suppose HD starts to cost you (!) and i am pretty certain you are locked into a 12 month contract with them.

I see why cox probably isnt worried.



Only verizons fios tech will beat cox speed as of present I think.

Yeah its the investment in laying down the last stretch of fiber optics to home. FTTP As oppose to FTTN what att and centurylink I think is doing for now. Thats why att stockholders are happier due to less overhead more return versus the verizon where they invested in a lot of money for those fiber optic lines all the way from hq to home-future proof though.

ATT u-verse gives you 4 streaming total---2 hd and 2 sd signals. You can record 4 shows at the same time but you can't watch any one while recording 4--cause thats all they give you 4 steaming simultaneously.

KLSV-50 Las Vegas

Some network changes at KLSV digital channel 50 today. JTV (Jewelry) has moved from 50.1 to 50.2. Now at 50.1 is Voz y Vision, a Hispanic Religious network. Could more sub-channels be in the works?

My tivo just recieved a lineup change we are getting the following channels epix sd on 309 with the HD one on 840, Hallmark HD on 746, and last but certainly not least Disney XD HD on 790 at last I can watch spectacular spider man in HD. The lineup change dosent mention when these channels are launching but if I had to put out an educated guess I would say tomorrow because it seems that that is the day that cox is launching epix in other markets.

Last night I noticed itnwas merely impossible to us a ********** client.
My speeds went from 100k down to 1.
Guess they are throttling. I don't use torrent that much but I hate them telling me what I can do with my connection. I wouldn't expect nv energy to not allow me to use ac when they decide I don't need it.

So I either pay netflix or go to a private news provider.
I'll probably pay netflix

What is itnwas?

It is my iPhone and I don't like typing on it

Last night I noticed itnwas merely impossible to us a ********** client.
My speeds went from 100k down to 1.
Guess they are throttling. I don't use torrent that much but I hate them telling me what I can do with my connection. I wouldn't expect nv energy to not allow me to use ac when they decide I don't need it.

So I either pay netflix or go to a private news provider.
I'll probably pay netflix

Cox, and specifically Las Vegas doesn't throttle network traffic. If you think you have a problem, go to a local server, such as //test.lvcm.com and do a local test (burst, timed or both) that will show you throughput without any of the regional links being a factor. After that try some sites, such as http://www.speedtest.net/ for throughput and Pingtest.net for line quality. I have been noticing a lot of strange slowdown issues in various regions of the country from time to time as I try various servers. Sometimes the West Coast traffic lanes are slammed and I get better service from East Coast or Mid West servers. Almost like network storms in the regional US hubs get over saturated or something. Try some repeated tests through various servers around the country, log them to compare, and you will probably see similar results.

vegggas

vegggas

Cox, and specifically Las Vegas doesn't throttle network traffic. If you think you have a problem, go to a local server, such as //test.lvcm.com and do a local test (burst, timed or both) that will show you throughput without any of the regional links being a factor. After that try some sites, such as http://www.speedtest.net/ for throughput and Pingtest.net for line quality. I have been noticing a lot of strange slowdown issues in various regions of the country from time to time as I try various servers. Sometimes the West Coast traffic lanes are slammed and I get better service from East Coast or Mid West servers. Almost like network storms in the regional US hubs get over saturated or something. Try some repeated tests through various servers around the country, log them to compare, and you will probably see similar results.

vegggas



vegggas

right I am aware of all those sites. I fix computers and troubleshoot networking. I am maybe not able to describe docsis 2.0 vs 3.0 but last night as I went and tested I did indeed power cycle my network, restart my computer and ensure nohing was streaming.
Alas I pulled a java download at 900k, tested a 1 minute test at coxs site for 10mbit (wifi connected computer) and ran speedtest and pingtest. All came back squeeky clean

b1t torrent still fired up and ran at 250k then 100... And 50... And 0.4-1.5k

not a coincidence.
Btw... Streaming? All of my xbox live video plays a sharp 1080p and netflix streams hd as well with "full bars" if you know how the xbox 360 streams netflix (hint: it rates it's signal like a cell phone and I get full bars)

Yes, but with that as a source, you are dependent on the other users upload and their independent throttling in their options. I hope you are also aware of the practice of fake tors that are designed to do exactly what you are seeing so that you never get a full download.
You mentioned a pay newsgroup (don't use the free Cox groups). THAT is the only way to go and with parallel downloads if that is your thing. HD downloads of Gigs in minutes are phenomenal. Some places charge by a cap fee, reach the cap, pay again, etc. Could be three days, could be three months, but they don't have as many users and scream those files down to you. :eek:

vegggas

Anyone catch any Epix HD tonight? Kings of Leon concert was on earlier instead of the scheduled Madonna concert. This is looking like an HDNET Movies type of channel.
I don't know when we can get internet streaming from the site, but I though that was included with a subscription.
DisneyXD HD has a lot more HD programming than I thought. chestnu1 - How was Spider man? I didn't catch it to give it a shot.
Hallmark HD - Haven't seen anything yet worth watching.

vegggas

Anyone catch any Epix HD tonight? Kings of Leon concert was on earlier instead of the scheduled Madonna concert. This is looking like an HDNET Movies type of channel.
I don't know when we can get internet streaming from the site, but I though that was included with a subscription.
DisneyXD HD has a lot more HD programming than I thought. chestnu1 - How was Spider man? I didn't catch it to give it a shot.
Hallmark HD - Haven't seen anything yet worth watching.

vegggas

The last time they put it on was early thursday morning at like 2 am but I guess it was before the channel was added and it didn't record. But all 3 arn't working right now on the cable box and the tivo hd when I tune to them it is a black screen. The same thing happened in june when other HD channels were added the problem fixed itself right before cox sent a person out. sigh Thanks for asking they are showing spectacular spider man a few times this weekend though.

I see it's confirmed Cox Las Vegas will be carrying the 3-D coverage of the Masters next week. Nice to see them ahead of the curve! You can DVR the coverage and save it for later if you don't have a 3-D TV yet. Watch on Channel 988 and there will be highlights on demand.

I see it's confirmed Cox Las Vegas will be carrying the 3-D coverage of the Masters next week. Nice to see them ahead of the curve! You can DVR the coverage and save it for later if you don't have a 3-D TV yet. Watch on Channel 988 and there will be highlights on demand.


Doesn't 3d require a special optical output that can't be done on current boxes? I was not at the ces but read that it requires a specific sort of hdmi cable to properly work which means new equipment.

Unless this is that stupid offset process they usd at the Grammys

Doesn't 3d require a special optical output that can't be done on current boxes? I was not at the ces but read that it requires a specific sort of hdmi cable to properly work which means new equipment.

Unless this is that stupid offset process they usd at the Grammys

HDMI 1.3 cables can carry 3D at 720p 60 Hz and 1080p 24 Hz. So your current cables and cable box will work just fine for The Masters (and any other 3D content from the cable or satellite company). Currently, no broadcast will exceed these specs.

The new HDMI 1.4a spec does add ethernet via HDMI, two-way transmission and higher-bandwidth capability for 1080p 60 Hz 3D TV, which you'll find on Blu-Ray.

No, it's not anaglyph.

It's the new 3-D TV format which requires one of the new 3-D capable TV sets and active shutter glasses. DirecTV is carrying three 3-D channels starting June 11th (ESPN 3D, and a couple of others) with more rolling out in time. 3-D Blu ray players are already on the market as well, with discs to follow.

Cable providers (and DirecTV) have stated that current set top boxes are compatible, as long as they are connected via HDMI (1.3 high speed cable will do). If you don't have the 3-D TV and glasses, you will see a side by side image, while those with the TV will a 3-D picture.

If you want to check out the tech; most Best Buy's and Sears have some sets on display. In the next three months, most major TV manufacturers will have 3-D capable HDTVs on the market.

And yes, these are just higher end HDTVs that are 3-D ready; you don't have to watch 3-D on them. Even 3-D broadcasts can be watched in 2-D if you wish, at the press of a button. While the sets (and glasses) are expensive now, look for prices to drop quickly. In a few years, even lower end sets will be 3-D capable.

I'm personally not ready for 3d at all nor is my wife. I suffer an astigmatism as does thr wife and I need more proof of long term safety before i dive in

I am certain that there are numerous studies of why 3d is fine but even after 20 years cell phone radiation is or isn't bad for you.

It's an eye health thing for me.

I tuned to Channel 988 but there is nothing up yet (regarding the 3-D Masters coverage) nor does that channel come up in the guide. Makes it hard to set the DVR.....

I was watching a video on how to make your 3dtv go into manual 3dtv mode on deamand (Im in the OC- its a moto market fyi) and I noticed the guy had a Motorola DCX3400m (the box I have, but mine has the word motorola missing; just a moto logo is there), and it was running the tru2way nds guide. So, anyone know when oc or anywhere else will get this guidee? I think my box is perfectly capable of running it. Right now it runs an ancient passport echo thats slow, buggy, anddoes not support the 1080p out on my box.

I was watching a video on how to make your 3dtv go into manual 3dtv mode on deamand (Im in the OC- its a moto market fyi) and I noticed the guy had a Motorola DCX3400m (the box I have, but mine has the word motorola missing; just a moto logo is there), and it was running the tru2way nds guide. So, anyone know when oc or anywhere else will get this guidee? I think my box is perfectly capable of running it. Right now it runs an ancient passport echo thats slow, buggy, anddoes not support the 1080p out on my box.


Yea if you look through this thread you'll see my frustration over this same question.

Seems from what has already been said that:
a) this is not a cosmetic update
b) this literally would flash the box and install new (think windows xp vs windows 7, no upgrades allowed
as such cox has to put out legal notices so people have time to backup, then prepare to reprogram their newly installed dvr software.

So yeah. It's a major change and according to a cox rep I met three years ago, you will see the new guide in the fall of 2007 (yes unsaid 2007 lol!)

Anybody caught letterman last night. He mentioned about the masters being on 3d and made and funny one bout the whole 3d tv thing. :D

Anyone else experiencing lip sync issues on ch 3 with Directv?

Anyone else experiencing lip sync issues on ch 3 with Directv?

No but my recorded SNL had issues last saturday OTA from 2 different tuners.

NBC has issues nearly all the time. From poor quality video to miserable artifacting. Just bad

KVMY on Cox

For several months I've experienced video hiccups only with KVMY on Cox Cable. No other channels have this problem. It is not on KVMY OTA, only on cable.

I have noticed that ch. 703's (KVBC-HD) overall volume is less than every other channel. But I have not noticed any lip sync issues while watching.

Well, whatever the issue was it resolved itself about an hour ago. Lips are now in sync again on ch 3.

I have noticed that ch. 703's (KVBC-HD) overall volume is less than every other channel. But I have not noticed any lip sync issues while watching.

I've always noticed KVBC-HD's volume being less than other stations. What I'd like to know is if anyone else knows the source of the audio drop-outs that occur during Jeopardy on KVBC-HD. It has gone on for a few years now and I guess I've just learned to put up with it. No drop-outs of any note from any other stations or even other NBC programs. Strange.

What is the latest hi def non dvr box that Cox has now.

I haven't had any lip sync issues lately. Now the audio just cuts out completely. Once for almost ten minutes. It's totally random and has been happening for about three days now. Ch 3 needs to get their act together.

I haven't had any lip sync issues lately. Now the audio just cuts out completely. Once for almost ten minutes. It's totally random and has been happening for about three days now. Ch 3 needs to get their act together.

Are you sure it's a KVBC technical problem, or is it a reception problem on your end of things?

I'm sure. Everything on my end checks out. Here's a response I received from them today.

Thanks for your email Eric. We've had at least 2 brief interruptions yesterday that was related to a bad power receptacle for the Dolby Encoder that has been fixed. Let me know if you experience another outage. Some issues can originate from Direct TV since they get us over the air and it could possibly be a reception problem on their end.

Mark

I noticed that CenturyLink has started to offer their Advanced TV in the Vegas market.

CenturyLink Advanced TV (http://www.centurylink.com/Pages/Personal/SpecialOffers/vegas1.jsp?tid=I_C_10_VegasTV10_2)

Anyone have it yet? I checked out the channel line up. Not bad. They have a few HD channels like the HD Nets, ESPNU-HD, and Fox Sports West HD that Cox doesn't have. But there are several HD's that Cox has and CL doesn't. I was surprised that CL has none of the HBO channels in HD. And CL doesn't offer Fox Prime Ticket in SD or HD. So no Dodger games on the TV.

I noticed that CenturyLink has started to offer their Advanced TV in the Vegas market.

CenturyLink Advanced TV (http://www.centurylink.com/Pages/Personal/SpecialOffers/vegas1.jsp?tid=I_C_10_VegasTV10_2)

Anyone have it yet? I checked out the channel line up. Not bad. They have a few HD channels like the HD Nets, ESPNU-HD, and Fox Sports West HD that Cox doesn't have. But there are several HD's that Cox has and CL doesn't. I was surprised that CL has none of the HBO channels in HD. And CL doesn't offer Fox Prime Ticket in SD or HD. So no Dodger games on the TV.

Finally!! Centurylink delivers. I like the whole house DVR solution and prices are good too. 25 meg might be available too!

I noticed that CenturyLink has started to offer their Advanced TV in the Vegas market.

CenturyLink Advanced TV (http://www.centurylink.com/Pages/Personal/SpecialOffers/vegas1.jsp?tid=I_C_10_VegasTV10_2)

Anyone have it yet? I checked out the channel line up. Not bad. They have a few HD channels like the HD Nets, ESPNU-HD, and Fox Sports West HD that Cox doesn't have. But there are several HD's that Cox has and CL doesn't. I was surprised that CL has none of the HBO channels in HD. And CL doesn't offer Fox Prime Ticket in SD or HD. So no Dodger games on the TV.

Read that channel lineup again. Notice the HD channels have an * (asterisk) next to that says "* Additional subscription for My HD required." And note that DVR is not included in the basic plan either. All prices are introductory with no mention of the regular price, for any of these plans or services.
Looked at the "compare it" page too. Funny stuff. They claim cox doesn't offer any search function, sports channels, picture quality comparison, or bundling of services. Really, I mean are they even trying. It looks like the only thing that looks favorable is the 4 show recording at once feature, but I'm willing to bet it's only available for SD shows and they have no way of sending or receiving that much data to the home to record 4 HD streams at once, even with multiple dvrs.
I'm not too interested in switching.
vegggas

Oh, it looks like Cox added Univision HD for the world cup series.

vegggas

And CL doesn't offer Fox Prime Ticket in SD or HD. So no Dodger games on the TV.

That's probably a good thing. ;)

@vegggas DirecTv added just added Univision HD too. (ch. 402)

Oh, it looks like Cox added Univision HD for the world cup series.

vegggas

Why didn't Cox add it as 15.1 where it belongs?

It's at 104.1, remapped by PSIP to 15.1 for those using QAM tuners.

Anyone know if you can watch the world cup next month ota? ABC maybe? or one of the spanish channels? Or is it only available on cable?

It's at 104.1, remapped by PSIP to 15.1 for those using QAM tuners.

Thanks. This one didn't automatically come up like KMCC did several months ago. And I was attempting to add 15.1, not 104.1. Why did Cox decide to change KMCC from 32.1 (their OTA channel) to cable 33.1?

I see that KVCW HD is also on RF 101, so someone might have been trying to give KVCW the 33.1 it should have instead of the oddball 6.1 it has now, and just selected the wrong program.

Still missing from Cox limited basic cable are KINC//KELV 15.2, KVCW This TV 6.2, and KVMY Estrella 12.2.

Analog OTA broadcaster KVPX-28 is missing in action, as is analog KGNG 47. These may be the result of this past weekends gusty weather conditions and the two stations could reappear.

DirecTV question for Las Vegas subscribers: I know that FOX, ABC, NBC and ABC come through in HD; what about CW and MyTV? If I switch from Cox, will I still get them in HD or will I have to rely on OTA?

DirecTV question for Las Vegas subscribers: I know that FOX, ABC, NBC and ABC come through in HD; what about CW and MyTV? If I switch from Cox, will I still get them in HD or will I have to rely on OTA?

D* offers CW in HD, but not MyTV.

Thanks, CW is the one I am more interested in anyway.

Anyone know if you can watch the world cup next month ota? ABC maybe? or one of the spanish channels? Or is it only available on cable?

ABC will broadcast big games in English, with Univison and Telefutura in Spanish. For the others you need ESPN and ESPN 2 or Galavision, which would require cable or satellite.

ABC will broadcast big games in English, with Univison and Telefutura in Spanish. For the others you need ESPN and ESPN 2 or Galavision, which would require cable or satellite.


Cool! I can't wait....


Did a rescan on my ota and picked up channel 30.1 --blank screen though/black and 30.2 a religous/catholic channel.

I also noticed Channel 3.1,3.2,3.3 randomly disappears here and there for a few minutes in the past couple of weeks.

Some people were saying that they were getting faster internet speeds with a DOCSIS 3 modem then they were with the DOCSIS 2 modem. Is that still true or did Cox fix that when they introduced the new Ultimate plan? I decided to backup my computer using BackBlaze and it says it's going to take 28 days for the upload to complete. So I was thinking of trying out the Ultimate plan for a month.

Cool! I can't wait....


Did a rescan on my ota and picked up channel 30.1 --blank screen though/black and 30.2 a religous/catholic channel.

I also noticed Channel 3.1,3.2,3.3 randomly disappears here and there for a few minutes in the past couple of weeks.

I think with Channel 3 being a really low number (are they still on 2 or did they move to 3 when they shut down analog) it is susceptible to interference.

KVBC kept their pre-transition digital channel 2. Channel 2 is very susceptible to impulse noise from electrical devices such as motors, fans, compressors, fluorescent lights, dimmer switches, and vehicle ignitions. Get the antenna as far away from anything electrical as possible. Channel 2 qalso has a very long wavelength, so you need a large antenna for optimal reception, roughly 102" across, compared to 32" for channel 7.

I think with Channel 3 being a really low number (are they still on 2 or did they move to 3 when they shut down analog) it is susceptible to interference.

Channel 3.1,3.2, 3.3 were the channels I cant get before until I made this homemade uhf antenna and placed them in my attic crawl space. It works great for the most part except for this past couple of weeks I noticed it being a bit irregular on signal strenght. It maybe NBC fault. Looks fine now though...

It could be the wind too. That is weird that your homemade UHF antenna works since Channel 3 is on the far end of the VHF band. Las Vegas is kind of weird that most of our stations remained on the VHF band where most places they are all on UHF.

KLSV 50.4

I noticed yesterday that KLSV has added another sub-channel. This one is on 50.4 (skipping for present 50.3). Content seems to be Joan Rivers shopping and/or infomercials.

It could be the wind too. That is weird that your homemade UHF antenna works since Channel 3 is on the far end of the VHF band. Las Vegas is kind of weird that most of our stations remained on the VHF band where most places they are all on UHF.

I know...I was just surprised how well this homemade antenna works much better than the $50 hdtv antenna I bought 2 years back. I actually set up 2 of them facing different directions--this way I dont need to move them to get all channels possible since its up there. I still dont get 17.1,18.1-4,32.1,41.1,47.1-5,50.1

I actually added a couple of straight horizontal wires to pick up vhf signal so its a vhf/uhf antenna combo.

whats this I hear about cable transmission problems coming up due to some satellite getting knocked out of orbit? anyone else here this?

whats this I hear about cable transmission problems coming up due to some satellite getting knocked out of orbit? anyone else here this?

Yep. Here's a story (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/11/satellite-drifts-out-of-control-miles-earth-threatens-cable/) about it.

Basically one satellites guidance systems broke and is going to go out of its orbit and get close enough to another one that it might mess things up. I bet they either fix it before it happens or move those channels to another sat.

Thanks KGNG

Yesterday digital KGNG-47 carried the shuttle launch via the NASA feed on their 47.6 sub-channel. Once the launch was complete, AMG returned to their normal position on 47.6.

Read that channel lineup again. Notice the HD channels have an * (asterisk) next to that says "* Additional subscription for My HD required." And note that DVR is not included in the basic plan either. All prices are introductory with no mention of the regular price, for any of these plans or services.
Looked at the "compare it" page too. Funny stuff. They claim cox doesn't offer any search function, sports channels, picture quality comparison, or bundling of services. Really, I mean are they even trying. It looks like the only thing that looks favorable is the 4 show recording at once feature, but I'm willing to bet it's only available for SD shows and they have no way of sending or receiving that much data to the home to record 4 HD streams at once, even with multiple dvrs.
I'm not too interested in switching.
vegggas

Net speeds too slow for me... Too expensive also
But I seem to be forced to Dish after many years with full service cox..
Internet+phone+HDDVR+2TB Samsung extension
I really like my setup but can't go another year without the Tennis Channel HD.
Can't see the Ball on Cr*p SD picture
Do you know if they have plans to add what Dish & Direct have?
I'll keep Net+phone package & get Dish 922 streaming DVR
but I wish I didn't have to bother
Sad but moving to dish...

Cox is going to add cell phone service soon. Cant wait Verizon is way too expensive

Cox is going to add cell phone service soon. Cant wait Verizon is way too expensive

Do you know if I can find out if cox have plans to add The Tennis Channel HD.
I would like to stay a customer of their package deal but almost all the people I play with have already switched to
Direct or Dish already & if you watch a lot of tennis on a 73" screen HD makes all the diff.
I just would like to know... 2 months - 6 mo.-1-2 yrs... never?
can you help me find out, PLEASE?

Do you know if I can find out if cox have plans to add The Tennis Channel HD.
I would like to stay a customer of their package deal but almost all the people I play with have already switched to
Direct or Dish already & if you watch a lot of tennis on a 73" screen HD makes all the diff.
I just would like to know... 2 months - 6 mo.-1-2 yrs... never?
can you help me find out, PLEASE?

If you look on the AVS National HD lineup here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1058081) you will see that it is listed as limited availability so it is in some cox markets but not all of them yet. I don't have any idea about when it will arrive but at least it shows that a carriage aggrement is in place and it will arrive eventually so I guess the answer is not never. I don't know why but it seems that cox over the last year or so has really slowed down the pace that they add new HD channels. If it is important to you call up cox ask them if they are adding the channel in the foreseeable future and if not request that they add it.