Yes, since KSNT is on 27 and KSFX is on 28.

- Trip

Sorry guys, I just got excited. I didn't realize that I was pulling in Fox from Springfield. It threw me off because it was set as 27.1 and was showing the same thing as 27.2 KTMJ. I guess I was hoping they got their own channel assignment and we would actually have Fox in HD in the Topeka market. Too much to ask for I guess...

I think it is possible to do two HD broadcasts on a single stick... if KSNT would invest in the equipment to do it.

Looks like we are in a period of extreme tropo ducting today and tomorrow, according to William Hepburn's site. This means TV-band e-waves can stretch much farther than usual. Nate might be able to get Topeka. ;) If you have the ability to scan for channels, you might get Des Moines or Minneapolis if you point north.

I always love when the tropo is going. That's what happened to me a few weeks back when I was picking up Springfield, MO. I have been getting KC stations over here in Manhattan on and off the past few days. I will occasionally get St. Joe, MO.

Anyone else in Topeka having no luck with getting WIBW 13.1 or 13.2?? I'm getting the following:

11.1
11.2
11.3
27.1
27.2
33 *(analog)
43 *(analog)
49.1
49.2
49.3

I've done rescans every day, but WIBW just refuses to show any reception. Location is 21st & Gage. I have a DB4 UHF/VHF combo antenna in a 2nd story window with a West exposure, as the complex doesn't allow placement of any antenna on the roof. WIBW came in perfect before the final transition, but since then I haven't picked it up at all.

Anyone else in Topeka having no luck with getting WIBW 13.1 or 13.2??

No problem getting 13.1 or 13.2 at 10th & Wanamaker with rabbit ears and a bow tie at ground level.

I finally got it.. here's what I had to do. I had to put the TV back to an "out of the box" situation, resetting to all factory settings, letting it do a rescan. Only then did it find WIBW. Then I could go back in, adjust all the video settings I had made before and all is good.

I'm just at a loss as to know why it took all that and a simple rescan wouldn't lock on to the signal.

Two Topeka stations filed for bankruptcy July 14, 2009, as New Vision Television eliminates all company debt.

The affected Topeka stations, KSNT (NBC) and KTMJ (FOX), as well as KSNW (NBC) in Wichita were a part of a mass company bankruptcy filing that will eliminate the company’s current debt of over $400 million as it restructures.

http://www.ktka.com/news/2009/jul/14/topeka_stations_file_bankruptcy/

I couldn't help but wondering: Is Cox Kansas finally going to make FS Midwest/Kansas City become a full time HD? The reason I asked is the guide put the scheduled listings on their HD channel (Channel 656). Originally it just shows the KC Royals games in HD. Can anyone find out? Thanks in advance.

Anybody with new info on when DirecTV will have Topeka locals in HD like Dish Network.

Doesn't look like it's coming anytime soon. Topeka is not on any published lists.

BigTen HD channel was added to COX on channel 667.

Doesn't look like it's coming anytime soon. Topeka is not on any published lists.

I was told two summers ago from Directv that we would have it within 6 months. Didn’t happen. Then I was told at the end of the first quarter. Didn’t happen. Then by the end of that year. Same story. Now they just tell you they don’t know and don’t show any time table. I don’t see any reason why they cant get it done. Cox, Uverse, and now Dish all have the locals in HD. They may start losing subscribers in our area if they don’t hurry up.

I hear Directv may have locals in HD in November...

I wrote that September of last year. Who knows when we will get locals in HD...

I couldn't help but wondering: Is Cox Kansas finally going to make FS Midwest/Kansas City become a full time HD? The reason I asked is the guide put the scheduled listings on their HD channel (Channel 656). Originally it just shows the KC Royals games in HD. Can anyone find out? Thanks in advance.

BUMP. With football season quickly approaching, I'm interested too. FSN has already picked up the OU/Tulsa game on 9/19. I'm hoping they broadcast those games in HD and then hope Cox carries it.

Hey all,

Just picked up a DirecTV AM21 for local HD channel reception. Looking forward to it on the new Pioneer Elite 151! I'll let you know how it works out.

Stupid question but do I need an antenna for the DirecTV AM21? Meaning would I need to install something on my house?


Thanks!

I have an AM-21 hooked up to my HR21-100, and I use an indoor antenna (RatShack; looks like the USS Enterprise in charcoal) and I can get all Topeka stations as well as many of the KC stations on a good night. With an outdoor antenna the AM-21 should be able to rock, but it's not mandatory.

Anybody with any news about a date when Topeka's FOX station will begin to broadcast in HD. Their OTA and Dish Network pictures are both horrible. Sure would be nice to watch the World Series and NFL football with a decent picture.

Currently on Dish Network KTMJ-HD is a zoomed in cut of the KTMJ signal made to fit a 16x9 screen. For information about future plans of FOX 43 in HD you would need to contact KSNT... but they have never responded to my inquiries about FOX 43 in HD.

It happened in Wichita, it should be already there in Topeka.....Cox Kansas made FSKC (Fox Sports Kansas City) HD full time. It is now called FSKC HD from Royals Baseball HD. The switch happened on Thursday (8/27).

Anybody with any news about a date when Topeka's FOX station will begin to broadcast in HD. Their OTA and Dish Network pictures are both horrible. Sure would be nice to watch the World Series and NFL football with a decent picture.

I'm also waiting for FOX 43 to broadcast in HD on Dish Network. However, I watch their OTA signal via QAM channel 116-1 via Cox. It's my understanding that it is identical to the actual OTA signal so not sure why yours is so "horrible".

Eld

I'm also waiting for FOX 43 to broadcast in HD on Dish Network. However, I watch their OTA signal via QAM channel 116-1 via Cox. It's my understanding that it is identical to the actual OTA signal so not sure why yours is so "horrible".

Eld

Cox has an exclusivity deal with FOX 43 and transmits them in HD. The actual OTA is 27.2 and it is horrible. It's 480, usually has a box frame (when the shows are in widescreen ie 24), and look atrocious. Dish network takes the same picture and zooms in on it.

I get Fox in crystal clear HD via a waiver request that was granted from the local Fox station about two years ago, but to my knowledge, they won't do that anymore. Before I knew much about all of this, about two years ago I applied for waivers to get all the locals in HD through Directv via the east or west coast locals in HD. I was declined by every local channel, but Directv told me to call and tell them my situation, sometimes they will budge. WIBW, KSNT, and KTKA would not budge one bit. But, I called Fox 43 and talked to some engineer guy, and he gave me the waiver. So, lucky for me, I get all my locals in HD. I get the rest via a OTA antenna with a preamp. Might be worth a try for some of you Sat TV subscribers. But, before you just call them to ask, you need to apply for the waivers first, then get declined, and you can call to appeal. Might be able to get it. I don't think they are now though since Fox is in HD with Cox and the agreement they have. When I got Fox in HD they didnt have the deal with Cox. Buddy of mine tried a year ago or so and they wouldnt give him a waiver.

Right, K-ST8ED, when you got your waiver, KTMJ and WDAF (Fox 4 in KC) had an agreement where KTMJ would carry WDAF news. Since then, KTMJ got a new owner and is now carried digitally, where they were analog only when you got the waiver, so SHVERA was your friend.

The best advice I can give anyone in Topeka who wants HD Fox without Cox is to try an outdoor UHF antenna as high as possible and point it east toward WDAF (real freq 34). You never know...

For those closer to Manhattan, try pointing your antenna towards the north side of Bennington, KS to KAAS-DT (RF 17) and you can watch FOX Kansas in HD. I think they have a 9 PM newscast in HD as well.

After watching the Chief's yesterday on WIBW I tuned in the NFL Red Zone for the 3:00 games. They jump from game to game but it was a whole lot better picture than watching the regular Fox broadcast. Anybody else using Red Zone?

I was able to get the Chiefs game from WIBW, KCTV and the freeview of Sunday Ticket on Directv. WIBW was the worst by far. KCTV and ST were about the same.

I compared the Sunday night game on NBC and the picture was much better from Kansas City than Topeka but the KC signal is iffy for me here in Topeka.

I, too, watched the Sunday Ticket freeview on DirecTV, but I watched other games since I figured the Chiefs broadcast would be blacked out since it's available locally (as is usually done).

I agree that CBS blows NBC away in PQ for NFL. Something about NBC's uplink capability.

Just found the 3 new HD channels added for Topeka on Cox Digital Cable:
MoreMax HD on channel 679, The Movie Channel HD on channel 680, and MSNBC HD on channel 681.

Just found the 3 new HD channels added for Topeka on Cox Digital Cable:
MoreMax HD on channel 679, The Movie Channel HD on channel 680, and MSNBC HD on channel 681.

Thanks for listing these. I would have never found them as I very seldom look past the .2 local channels.

Now they really need to resort their HD channels.

Good news... I think... the Chiefs game will not be blacked out Sunday, despite not all of the tickets being sold. I don't think an Arrowhead game has been blacked out on local TV since the 80s, but it could happen this year in later home games. I believe WIBW would also be blacked out on such an occasion.

Last year when I asked, WIBW did says that would have to follow the blackout if there was one.

WIBW-TV is within the 75 mile radius of Arrowhead Stadium if a home game is blacked out. The game would also be blacked out on DirecTV's NFL Sunday Ticket for those living in zip-codes inside the 75 mile radius of Arrowhead.

This thread has slowed to a crawl. FYI, the Royals will be on Fox Saturday Baseball, with Zack Greinke starting his last game this season. It will be on Fox 4 WDAF, and surely on Fox 43 KTMJ, just not in HD (neither will the Chiefs games the next 2 weeks... in fact, they could be blacked out!)

So is it just me or over the last year has the quality (bitrate) of our local HD just gone way down.

I know that 2 years ago ABC was 14.5mbps 720p it's now 11.5mbps
NBC was 15 now 13.5, FOX is the same, CBS was 14.5 now 11.5. I wont even bother with PBS as that isnt even an HD channel in my mind.

I am using Cox, is the OTA just as low?

Yep, just as low OTA. CBS used to be pretty good, now it pretty pixelated. Unfortunately, we are so small of a market, we have to put up with on stations using their extra bandwidth to serve up the networks we wouldn't get otherwise.

Now that I can get the Kansas City stations fairly reliable, I watch them for most sports. WIBW and KSNT are so over compressed, they are hard to watch.

I lost my WIBW and KTWU signals when the switch happened. Now I have to look into a stronger antenna to get stations that are within 5 miles of me. Yet I can get KTKA and KSNT which are only a few miles further out. How dumb is that?

Just been on Cox basic since then.

Any recommendations?

Most likely you only have a UHF antenna. When they switched WIBW and KTWU went to VHF. So you would need to have an antenna that has both UHF and VHF.

That being said, I do get both on a Channel Master 4221 UHF antenna but not as reliable as before.

Kansas City did it right by going to UHF on all of their channels.

I lost my WIBW and KTWU signals when the switch happened. Now I have to look into a stronger antenna to get stations that are within 5 miles of me. Yet I can get KTKA and KSNT which are only a few miles further out. How dumb is that?

Just been on Cox basic since then.

Any recommendations?

Both WIBW HD and KTWU HD were on UHF before the switch but went back to their old VHF channels after the switch. Sounds like you need a VHF antenna.

WTF? No Chiefs in HD? Looks like KTMJ has dropped the ball again!:mad:

They never had the ball. This is the worst channel in Kansas.

They never had the ball. This is the worst channel in Kansas.

LOL... Good one dude! :) So true. They've been notorious for dropping the HD feed ever since I got HD 2 years ago. I understand the occasional technical difficulties, but you would think they would have that all ironed out by now. :confused:

This came from the Wichita, KS Board:

Cox Channel Lineup Changing

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I just checked Cox's TV channel lineup and saw this announcement:

Quote:
On or after November 17, 2009 Cox will be making changes to your channel lineup. You will notice a new channel number for your favorite HD channels as well as a couple of changes within the Limited and Expanded Cable sections.

On or after November 24, 2009 Cox is adding an additional 12 HD channels to your HD lineup. These new HD channels are also listed on the November 17 lineups below: Investigation Discovery HD, Independent Film Channel HD, BBC America HD, WE HD, G4 HD, FUSE HD, ESPNU HD, ESPNews HD, Tennis Channel HD, Starz Edge HD, History International HD and Sundance Channel HD.

The new lineup is available here:
http://ww2.cox.com/wcm/en/residential/datasheet/kansas/Wichita%20%5BNov%5D.pdf

The changes are mostly that all On-Demand channels will be in the 1000s and all HD channels will be in the 2000s. Another nice change, HD channels are now just 2000 more than their SD counterparts, so you will actually be able to find the HD channel you're looking for! For example, Comedy Central HD will be 2058 because Comedy Central SD is 58 and BBC America HD will be 2208 because BBC America SD is 208.

This came from the Wichita, KS Board:

Cox Channel Lineup Changing

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I just checked Cox's TV channel lineup and saw this announcement:

Quote:
On or after November 17, 2009 Cox will be making changes to your channel lineup. You will notice a new channel number for your favorite HD channels as well as a couple of changes within the Limited and Expanded Cable sections.

On or after November 24, 2009 Cox is adding an additional 12 HD channels to your HD lineup. These new HD channels are also listed on the November 17 lineups below: Investigation Discovery HD, Independent Film Channel HD, BBC America HD, WE HD, G4 HD, FUSE HD, ESPNU HD, ESPNews HD, Tennis Channel HD, Starz Edge HD, History International HD and Sundance Channel HD.

The new lineup is available here:
http://ww2.cox.com/wcm/en/residential/datasheet/kansas/Wichita%20%5BNov%5D.pdf

The changes are mostly that all On-Demand channels will be in the 1000s and all HD channels will be in the 2000s. Another nice change, HD channels are now just 2000 more than their SD counterparts, so you will actually be able to find the HD channel you're looking for! For example, Comedy Central HD will be 2058 because Comedy Central SD is 58 and BBC America HD will be 2208 because BBC America SD is 208.

Here is the link for topeka:
http://ww2.cox.com/wcm/en/residential/datasheet/kansas/Topeka%20%5BNov%5D.pdf

Do the Cox digital receivers in Topeka support HDMI?

Do the Cox digital receivers in Topeka support HDMI?

If you are asking if the Cox cable boxes have HDMI outputs then yes they do.

If you are asking if the Cox cable boxes have HDMI outputs then yes they do.

I am indeed. Thanks.

The first box I got from COX had HDMI, the second box only had DVI. So make sure you check when you get the box.

Did anyone know about this? I was watching Fox Sports Kansas City tonight here in Wichita and they are now showing Oklahoma City Thunder games!!! The first one is against Portland. I looked on my DVR channel list and found that they are also showing Tuesday's game against the Lakers. I am wondering if this affected all of Cox Kansas.....

So once again, FOX 43 has continued to annoy me. I have Dish Network, so I have "FOX HD," except that it isn't in HD. At first they we zoomed in on everything, cutting off important info. They must have gotten some complaints during sporting events. Now the World Series looks normal (4:3). Their TV shows are "zoomed out." The show is still in wide screen, but it is boxed in. There are bars on the sides and the top and bottom. The logo says FOX HD brought to you buy DirecTV. DirecTV doesn't even offer Topeka's locals in HD. How difficult is it to provide someone other than Cox customers an HD feed?!

what channels can i get with cox without one of those digital boxes? can i get extended cable without the box?

thanks.

what channels can i get with cox without one of those digital boxes? can i get extended cable without the box?

thanks.

You can get Expanded Basic. Up to channel 68. The only high def channels you would get would be the local channels if you have a QAM tuner built-in to your TV.

So once again, FOX 43 has continued to annoy me. I have Dish Network, so I have "FOX HD," except that it isn't in HD. At first they we zoomed in on everything, cutting off important info. They must have gotten some complaints during sporting events. Now the World Series looks normal (4:3). Their TV shows are "zoomed out." The show is still in wide screen, but it is boxed in. There are bars on the sides and the top and bottom. The logo says FOX HD brought to you buy DirecTV. DirecTV doesn't even offer Topeka's locals in HD. How difficult is it to provide someone other than Cox customers an HD feed?!

FOX 43 has an exclusive with COX Cable for HD Programming. KTKA had a similar agreement for a long time.

So once again, FOX 43 has continued to annoy me. I have Dish Network, so I have "FOX HD," except that it isn't in HD. At first they we zoomed in on everything, cutting off important info. They must have gotten some complaints during sporting events. Now the World Series looks normal (4:3). Their TV shows are "zoomed out." The show is still in wide screen, but it is boxed in. There are bars on the sides and the top and bottom. The logo says FOX HD brought to you buy DirecTV. DirecTV doesn't even offer Topeka's locals in HD. How difficult is it to provide someone other than Cox customers an HD feed?!

+1 :mad:

FOX 43 has an exclusive with COX Cable for HD Programming. KTKA had a similar agreement for a long time.

Yeah, I've known about the agreement. It's gone on way too long. Much longer than KTKA's

I think we're stuck with that arrangement until KTMJ gets its own full power digital television station instead of the network of low power stations.

What antennas are you guys using to pick up OTA? I have Directv and am sick of the SD locals. Thanks all.

I am still using a ChannelMaster 4228 (original wire-grid style) with 7775 pre-amp pointed toward the east, height is just above the gutter line ~12". I get fair to good reception of all KC DTV stations.

During the summer months, I can get 4.1 and 9.1 using rabbit ears in an east-facing window as tropospheric ducting helps strengthen the signal.

hdtvprimer.com has lots of good info.

Today Cox rearranged their HD channels. They are now 2000 above their SD counterpart.

I am glad this finally happened.

I use a ChannelMaster 4228 also. I am glad to have it since WIBW was having problems with icing on Monday night. I was able to pick up KCTV from Kansas City.

Got my parents hooked up with an HDX1000 from "the shack."

Amazed that it picks up what it does for where they are (WEST of Manhattan, almost to Ogden). Currently getting WIBW (strongest signal...), KSNT, and just barely KTKA. 7 channels total, when 49 comes in...

KTWU seems to almost barely come in, but the signal just isn't strong enough. Part of that is obviously because this antenna seems geared more towards UHF from what I gather...

Any advice on getting 11 (KTWU) this far out, with this antenna? Any way to add a simple VHF antenna to the mix and maybe use an A/B box? They didn't really want to go with a bigger antenna, and this one was simple enough to mount nicely. Pointing almost straight east right now; haven't tried moving it too much as 49 drops out so easily.

Anyway, very cool to pull in what already works... Now I'm ready to see what it takes to get 11 out there, or if others in Manhattan get 11 very well OTA (and with what antenna, etc. etc.).

Ok I'll try to find that channelmaster. I assume from the post above there is an option to add a signal amp to it.

Nevermind that last part I went to the website above and answered my own question. Thanks y'all

Being in Topeka, you may not even want/need an amp (depending on whether or not you want to get KC channels ;) )

Heck, even a cheap un-powered antenna might get you the Topeka locals pretty well!

...I'm still curious if anyone in Manhattan/Ogden area gets KTWU (11), and what antenna they use. Not so sure the one I got for my parents will work for this station. RadioShack claims that they use this antenna in their store, and can get it, so it makes me wonder if there are any tricks to try... anyone?

My parents live up on one of the high bluffs northwest of Westmoreland and they can't pull in KSNT or KTWU, but they get WIBW and KTKA just fine. I'm still working on getting KAAS from Salina so they have FOX in HD... but no luck on KTWU.

Interesting. FWIW, KSNT has a sub-channel that's actually the Fox station (43 I believe), though it's not HD.
Being digital, at least it'd probably look a little nicer than a fuzzy analog version.

Strangely enough, my folks said they got KSNT steadily during the inclement weather the other day, but that WIBW was a little flaky at times (I attribute this to the antenna being meant more for UHF).

I was just thinking though - if the same antenna at the store can pull KTWU, I wonder if they have it angled differently or something. The way we have it mounted currently, it's pretty much straight up and down; the mount doesn't allow for any more movement. Suppose it's possible to angle it a little bit, but not by much...

Overall, they're happy, but I feel like tinkering with it a little more just because (and because it's close to getting what amounts to 4 more channels :D ).