Originally posted by mothergoose45
Also anyone with Insight HD DVR, what is the cost of the monthly bill? My dish runs $52 with all the added fees. Insight is looking like the way to go, since they couldnt drop another wire so I could run my dish 508 with a 811.

I think you can configure various billing senarios at Insight's Website (http://www.insight-com.com/) , although you may need to drill down through several pages to get there.

I have a question for the fellow people in frankfort here...

What antennas do youall have/recommend. I live on Ridgeview which is the east side of town.

Also is there any way I could mount it to my dish mast. I am renting currently and would prefer not to drill any more holes in my landlords roof.

Any help would be great.

Hey guys, I have some questions. First off, I live in Richmond, right off of South Keeneland on a side road. I literally live right beside the interstate, as I can see the on-ramp onto I-75 at exit 90B/A by looking outside my upstairs apartment window. So that should give you an good idea where I'm at.

Also, any antenna or broadcast I refer to in my post is about DTV and HD signals, incase I don't note it. I'm not super familiar with all the correct terms yet, so bear with me.

I just ordered an HD receiver from DirecTV tonight, and I'm curious as to what I can expect when the installer comes Monday morning. I ordered their default OTA, and I know the one they provide is dependant on the regaion. I also have looked at antennaweb.org for mileage info, but for some reason I don't see some of this as entirely correct.

1. Anyone else live in Richmond, and can tell me how good of a signal they can get to the current HD channels available to us?
2. I'm under the impression from this thread that WDKY has their DTV tower up and working, albeit at very low power. I'm also under the impression that they hope to have it at full power hopefully in the next couple of weeks, or atleast before the Super Bowl. When they turn it on full blast, any ideas on whether Richmond residents will receive a good signal from Danville? (assuming that's where the tower is)
3. Where exactly are the towers for our local DTV broadcasters?
4. What's with WLEX? I'm under the impression they are in the process of putting up their attenna, correct?
5. And with WTVQ, what's their deal? I work at FastSigns in Lexington, and all that stuff you see on the news I put up :D. All the backdrops and such, and also all the graphics behind Brad James in the weather center. Anyhow, I did all this back on Oct 31st, and while taking a pizza break and talking with the higher-ups of the station, they claimed to be the first HD broadcaster in Lexington, however I haven't seen any info on WTVQ HD. What am I missing here? I didn't have the heart to ask them since we were in a rush and trying to get everything done for the logo/name switchover at the 6pm newscast.

Sorry for probably seeming stupid, but I really appreciate anyone shedding some light on the world of digital and high-def television in the Lexington area. Thanks.

Originally posted by blurredvision
2. I'm under the impression from this thread that WDKY has their DTV tower up and working, albeit at very low power. I'm also under the impression that they hope to have it at full power hopefully in the next couple of weeks, or atleast before the Super Bowl. When they turn it on full blast, any ideas on whether Richmond residents will receive a good signal from Danville? (assuming that's where the tower is)
WDKY-DT has been broadcasting a very low power, very directional signal from their tower located near the KY river, close to Lake Herrington (on a line between Lexington and Danville). This VHF Channel-4 DT signal does not reach Lexington. It is my understanding that in the past few weeks, they have stopped broadcasting DT on this tower in preparation for the move to the newly built tower located at the Intersection of I-75 and the KY river (very close to you). There are now two towers at this location, the other previously existing tower is the KET tower, broadcasting their DT signal on UHF channel 42. You should have no problem picking up KET on DT-42.
3. Where exactly are the towers for our local DTV broadcasters?
The Lexington link on this site ( http://www.louisvillehdtv.com/lex.aspx ) has pretty good general information on the Lexington DT's. The only thing missing at the moment is the new WDKY tower information... mentioned above.
4. What's with WLEX? I'm under the impression they are in the process of putting up their attenna, correct?
They've been doing the gimme 6 more months now going on over 2 years... I'll believe it when I see it... don't hold your breath for NBC HD in Lexington anytime soon.
5. ...however I haven't seen any info on WTVQ HD. What am I missing here?
They're alive and well on UHF Channel 40... Monday nite football has been looking great! Lexington Insight cable customers have not been able to get ABC-DT because WTVQ's management company can't reach an agreement with Insight for carrying their signal. So the only way to get ABC-HD in Lexington is OTA at the moment (other than satellite).

Thanks a lot ragamuffin for the info. And I really like that link you provided. As for the WDKY tower going up near the KET tower at Clays Ferry, is that the one that had the bright ass lights on it a while ago? I would notice coming home from work that a new tower had been put up, and every couple of days, that damn thing would light up the sky with the flashing lights it had. One night they'd be lighting the sky, the next night just the regular red flashing lights.

CBS and FOX are the two stations that I want most in HD, so I'm happy. With both CBS and ABC's antenna's "directly" up the interstate basically, I'm hoping for a great signal from them. I knew of their location obviously (we do much work for both of these stations where I work), but didn't know if this was the location of their DTV antennas. Can't say I watch NBC much, so it's a good thing they are bringing up the rear :D.

Thanks again for the info. I'm assuming my DirecTV HD receiver will automatically upconvert a 720p signal, as my cheap HDTV only does 1080i.

Originally posted by blurredvision
As for the WDKY tower going up near the KET tower at Clays Ferry, is that the one that had the bright ass lights on it a while ago?

Yep ... I've been monitoring channel 4 for signs of a return to life ... none spotted yet. The analog was off air for a while today, perhaps they are getting close ... or perhaps not ;)

I'm assuming my DirecTV HD receiver will automatically upconvert a 720p signal, as my cheap HDTV only does 1080i.

Yep you assume correctly.

WDKY has posted some DTV project information on their website (http://www.wdky56.com) There's a link at the bottom of the main page. Hopefully the weather will cooperate some this week.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
WDKY has posted some DTV project information on their website There's a link at the bottom of the main page. Hopefully the weather will cooperate some this week.

Well..... It sounds like the Insight users like myself are sc@*#d again.

I live in north Madison County a couple of miles south of the I75 Boonesboro exit. Right now I get WKYT 13.1 with amplified rabbit ears. I'm considering doing an attic install hoping to get WTVQ 40. I checked antennaweb.org and it doesn't show me getting WTVQ with any antenna even though I'm only about 16 miles out. However I see that some of you are picking it up as far a way as Frankfort. A guy on ebay is telling me that a cm3016 with a preamp should do just fine but I'm considering a cm 3677 with a cm7777 preamp. I have room for a larger antenna in the attic but I don't want to buy any larger than necessary. I would appreciate any input on this.

A better choice for UHF would be the CM 4228 or Antennasdirect DB8 (in the attic). Keep your rabbit ears and combine the two with a vhf/uhf diplexer at the TV. Use the uhf input on the 7777 in the attic and be sure the internal switch is set to "separate". Combine them right before the TV.
The CM 0549 is a good uhf/vhf diplexer. See http://www.starkelectronic.com/cmjoiner.htm


You're vhf antenna is now on the TV, and your uhf is in the attic. You'll be all set when channel 4 comes on line as well.

Originally posted by BenCJedi

On a side note..If you are an Enterprise fan, WKYT uses precisely the right bitrate/resolution for Enterprise recordings to fit exactly 3 episodes on DVD without having to re-encode. The UPN subchannel is within DVD-spec parameters, so it makes for a quick, great quality DVD authoring process.


How are you doing this? I assume you are using the MyHD for capturing in .TS format, right? Then how do you take the .TS file and create a DVD?

If you want to take this offline, you can e-mail me using my posting name at yahoo.com.

Thanks!

Originally posted by cpcat
A better choice for UHF would be the CM 4228 or Antennasdirect DB8 (in the attic). Keep your rabbit ears and combine the two with a vhf/uhf diplexer at the TV. Use the uhf input on the 7777 in the attic and be sure the internal switch is set to "separate". Combine them right before the TV.
The CM 0549 is a good uhf/vhf diplexer.
You're vhf antenna is now on the TV, and your uhf is in the attic. You'll be all set when channel 4 comes on line as well. :)

cpcat,

Just ordered the 4228 & 7777.

Thanks!

Originally posted by DaveStrorm
How are you doing this? I assume you are using the MyHD for capturing in .TS format, right? Then how do you take the .TS file and create a DVD?

If you want to take this offline, you can e-mail me using my posting name at yahoo.com.

Thanks!

Sent you an email :)

I just installed an antenna direct ant. in my attic. I am picking up abc and cbs. I am waiting for fox to come on line. I am currently getting 90-100% signal. I have a cm 4228a antenna for sale if any one is interested. I paid $50 plus shipping. will sell for $45. It has not been used. I live in georgetown. Pm if interested.

Originally posted by uknurse
I just installed an antenna direct ant. in my attic. I am picking up abc and cbs. I am waiting for fox to come on line. I am currently getting 90-100% signal. I have a cm 4228a antenna for sale if any one is interested. I paid $50 plus shipping. will sell for $45. It has not been used. I live in georgetown. Pm if interested.

UKnurse,
Please post your experiences with reception in the area (i.e. antenna tests, successes and failures) when you get a chance as it will help present and future members here to learn what works and what doesn't.

Originally posted by uknurse
I just installed an antenna direct ant. in my attic. I am picking up abc and cbs. I am waiting for fox to come on line. I am currently getting 90-100% signal. I have a cm 4228a antenna for sale if any one is interested. I paid $50 plus shipping. will sell for $45. It has not been used. I live in georgetown. Pm if interested.
Which part of Georgetown do you reside in? Northern Scott Cty or more towards the Fayette line?

I live at exit 125 which is us 460 and 75.

Just got off the phone with "Dana" at Insight. She confirmed that FOX would be online sometime in January. The real news is that NBC should be coming in February if everything goes right. Apparently they were going to run fiber from WLEX to Insight, but they decided to wait until WLEX got their tower built. Let's hope this all works out.

Any news on when FOX's new tower at Clays Ferry will be operational? I heard early to mid January. Correct me if I am wrong.

The only thing we know for sure is that it's delayed. According to their website it's expected to be operational by Feb. 4th.

WLEX is not building another tower...they are planning to share an antenna with WTVQ at the top of the WTVQ tower...

Originally posted by William Smith
WLEX is not building another tower...they are planning to share an antenna with WTVQ at the top of the WTVQ tower...

Can they actually share an antenna? How does that work?

hey guys, needing an off air antenna installed in versailles and need some recommendations on names. I have a CM Stealth with pre-amp that will go on the eave of my second story but i am terrified of heights. Any help is appreciated. MY email address is kevinc@kmsf.org if you have any questions.
thanks, Kevin

So... anything going on with the ABC signal tonight?

I decided to watch Lost and the season premier of Alias live (while DVRing) -- and I'm getting very VERY sporadic signals at best from ABC.

CBS is at 125% as usual... ABC tends to stay around 100% -- but it alternates between 0 - 65 at best tonight.

Weather? My Equipment? Or is this on ABC's end?

Thanks for any thoughts (going to mess with the antenna some more -- tonight my first chance to see Alias in HD).

/ps. Thank goodness I dual record these shows -- HD local, SD from Dish on a different receiver.


Edited update: KET dead too. Guessing this is something on my end. Dang.

Same issue here (without the breakups).. watching LOST on WTVQ right now and only around 40% signal. I usually have around 68% signal with my amp and tabletop antenna in the attic. Seems they are reduced power tonight.

Originally posted by jstew9
So... anything going on with the ABC signal tonight?

I decided to watch Lost and the season premier of Alias live (while DVRing) -- and I'm getting very VERY sporadic signals at best from ABC.

CBS is at 125% as usual... ABC tends to stay around 100% -- but it alternates between 0 - 65 at best tonight.

Weather? My Equipment? Or is this on ABC's end?

Thanks for any thoughts (going to mess with the antenna some more -- tonight my first chance to see Alias in HD).

/ps. Thank goodness I dual record these shows -- HD local, SD from Dish on a different receiver.


Edited update: KET dead too. Guessing this is something on my end. Dang.

Do you have Dish and a 921? I do and since the last software upgrade in December I have lost KET and have to pull my plug on my pre amp to get WTVQ. WKYT comes in at 125% for me too. Before the upgrade I got KET at around 120% and WTVQ and WKYT at 110% all steady.

Originally posted by cpcat
Can they actually share an antenna? How does that work?

They install both transmitters at the same site, filter them, and run them into a RF combiner. ( Think large filtered 2 way coax splitter reversed) up the tower on a single transmission line into a common antenna.


Depending on the antenna type, antennas can be from 6-18 Mhz wide or even cover the entire UHF band (but one that broad has very low antenna gain and is huge).

The big advantage for digital is that adjacent channels can be used in the same market (but perform best if on the same tower).

We have two sites that have adjacent analog and digital channels at the same site.

Ashland has analog 26 with the digital on 25
Owensboro-Henderson has analog on 30 and the digital on 31

Originally posted by William Smith
WLEX is not building another tower...they are planning to share an antenna with WTVQ at the top of the WTVQ tower...
Where did you get this info? Being a noob to all this, I've come away with the impression that WTVQ's main weakness is it's lack of power. Will this be changed in the near future? I've yet to put up my winegard antenna yet, so I'm not sure of what kind of reception I'll get here in Richmond, but I'm hoping for the best. Would suck if I can't get WTVQ, which means I wouldn't be able to get WLEX neither. Luckily WDKY is putting their tower about 6 miles up the interstate from me :D. I could probably see the damn thing if I hung out the back upstairs window.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Where did you get this info? Being a noob to all this, I've come away with the impression that WTVQ's main weakness is it's lack of power. Will this be changed in the near future? I've yet to put up my winegard antenna yet, so I'm not sure of what kind of reception I'll get here in Richmond, but I'm hoping for the best. Would suck if I can't get WTVQ, which means I wouldn't be able to get WLEX neither. Luckily WDKY is putting their tower about 6 miles up the interstate from me :D. I could probably see the damn thing if I hung out the back upstairs window.

He works at KET (I think an engineer, maybe even the CE).

WTVQ is at low power still but should go full power by July and in Richmond you should have no problem with either them or WLEX. You probably could get WTVQ even now with a CM 4228 outdoors.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
Same issue here (without the breakups).. watching LOST on WTVQ right now and only around 40% signal. I usually have around 68% signal with my amp and tabletop antenna in the attic. Seems they are reduced power tonight.

Suspect weather conditions ... Lexington/Richmond stations are at normal levels here at the cave, but Louisville stations (WAVE and WLKY) are hitting the wall (or skipping over me) tonight ...

i have not had a good signal from wtvq for a week now usually its in the 52% range here but for the last week its at 24% thank goodness directv has decided to let us have abc hd now

Originally posted by blurredvision
Where did you get this info? Being a noob to all this, I've come away with the impression that WTVQ's main weakness is it's lack of power. Will this be changed in the near future? I've yet to put up my winegard antenna yet, so I'm not sure of what kind of reception I'll get here in Richmond, but I'm hoping for the best. Would suck if I can't get WTVQ, which means I wouldn't be able to get WLEX neither. Luckily WDKY is putting their tower about 6 miles up the interstate from me :D. I could probably see the damn thing if I hung out the back upstairs window.

From having lunch with the CE at WLEX ( where I used to work). You can also verify it yourself by reading the appilications and CPs on the FCC's web site ..


WTVQ'a main weakness at this time is not the power ( it would be roughly the same as WKLE-DT) but the fact the small antenna they are using is very low on the tower. The RF runs into the ground pretty quickly.. They did not top mount it so they could stay on the air while installing the dual station system...

Originally posted by nuts4scuba
Do you have Dish and a 921? I do and since the last software upgrade in December I have lost KET and have to pull my plug on my pre amp to get WTVQ. WKYT comes in at 125% for me too. Before the upgrade I got KET at around 120% and WTVQ and WKYT at 110% all steady.
Good guess, Dish with 921. Up through the end of the year the ABC signal was rock solid. During the holidays there was no original programming, so I was just deleting the recordings without looking at them, for all I know they were all blank screens (like last night). I know the last recording I watched from ABC that was solid was the last regular episode of 'life as we know it' -- from a week or two before Christmas. I don't watch KET at all to know when it was lost, but was definately gone last night when I checked.

I can't understand how I'm having so much trouble with ABC. Standing on my deck I can visibly see the tower -- I was watching it blink mockingly at me last night when moving the antenna around to see if it was something on my end.

Now I have to wonder if this is a 921 issue too. Any recommendations on solutions? I have a mid-sized outdoor antenna from Radio Shack mounted outside on the corner of my house at ground level (poking up above my fence).

For all this technology, they sure can make it a pain sometimes :)

Welcome to the world of no receiver standards....

Originally posted by blurredvision
Where did you get this info? Being a noob to all this, I've come away with the impression that WTVQ's main weakness is it's lack of power. Will this be changed in the near future? I've yet to put up my winegard antenna yet, so I'm not sure of what kind of reception I'll get here in Richmond, but I'm hoping for the best. Would suck if I can't get WTVQ, which means I wouldn't be able to get WLEX neither. Luckily WDKY is putting their tower about 6 miles up the interstate from me :D. I could probably see the damn thing if I hung out the back upstairs window.

blurredvision,

I live just north of you off of 2878 and installed a cm4228 last night in the attic. Got ABC, CBS and PBS just fine without a preamp. You should get WTVQ but you may need the preamp. I bought a cm7777 preamp thinking I would need it for WTVQ but it comes in fine.

If anyone needs a preamp let me know.

Originally posted by eruceht
blurredvision,

I live just north of you off of 2878 and installed a cm4228 last night in the attic. Got ABC, CBS and PBS just fine without a preamp. You should get WTVQ but you may need the preamp. I bought a cm7777 preamp thinking I would need it for WTVQ but it comes in fine.

If anyone needs a preamp let me know.

You live near me... I'm in Lexington Heights...

Wondering when Insight would get the other HD Locals. They only have cbs , i believe. Wondering what kind of HD DVR Box they use and if there is any news on a new HDTV DVR?

Hey William,
If you're superstitious at all you might consider posting again ASAP.
Look at your current # of posts. Yikes!;)

Oh great!!
That explains why I'm still at work at Midnight!!!

Originally posted by demonspawn
i have not had a good signal from wtvq for a week now usually its in the 52% range here but for the last week its at 24% thank goodness directv has decided to let us have abc hd now

how do you get ABC HD... i live in frankfort too.

Originally posted by eruceht
blurredvision,

I live just north of you off of 2878 and installed a cm4228 last night in the attic. Got ABC, CBS and PBS just fine without a preamp. You should get WTVQ but you may need the preamp. I bought a cm7777 preamp thinking I would need it for WTVQ but it comes in fine.

If anyone needs a preamp let me know.
Where did you purchase you cm4228? Online or locally? I've got the Winegard GS-2VRD that came from DirecTV, so I'm a little suspect of it's quality. Also, how much did you pay for the cm4228 and the cm7777 preamp? If this Winegard doesn't do anything good for me, and the cm4228 is cheap enough (and low profile, I live in an apartment building afterall), I may consider getting the cm4228 and buying the cm7777 from you. All depends on cost, though. I've already paid $50 for this Winegard from DirecTV, which I'm thinking was a ripoff (I don't know much about this stuff).

Just for sh*ts and giggles, last night I ran a cable upstairs and just set the antenna next to the window. I was able to pick up PBS-HD no problem (obviously, it's right up the road), but nothing else. I wasn't expecting much anyhow. I plan on bringing home an extension ladder from work tonight and installing this weekend, then praying for the best.

Originally posted by mothergoose45
Wondering when Insight would get the other HD Locals. They only have cbs , i believe. Wondering what kind of HD DVR Box they use and if there is any news on a new HDTV DVR?

The last I heard Fox should be coming online with Insight soon. Now what soon means I have no idea. Hopefully before the Super Bowl in early February.

As for ABC, I wouldn't expect them to show up on Insight anytime soon. I think the dispute they are having deals with multicasting...at least that is the last I heard. WTVQ wants Insight to carry all their subchannels while Insight just wants to carry the main channel. I really wish WTVQ would do away with the ABCNews Now subchannel, but word has it they are running it based on corporate orders.

NBC isn't even broadcasting digital in the Lexington area yet, so don't expect to see them anytime soon (signal should be broadcasting sometime this summer).

As for the DVR box, Insight currently offers the Motorola 6208. The hardware is pretty good and does its job, however the TVGuide interface is a complete joke. The 6208's successor, the 6412, should be available from Insight between March and May of this year. It will offer a 120 gig hard drive, dual-tuner recording, and hopefully the new iGuide interface.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Where did you purchase you cm4228? Online or locally? I've got the Winegard GS-2VRD that came from DirecTV, so I'm a little suspect of it's quality. Also, how much did you pay for the cm4228 and the cm7777 preamp? If this Winegard doesn't do anything good for me, and the cm4228 is cheap enough (and low profile, I live in an apartment building afterall), I may consider getting the cm4228 and buying the cm7777 from you. All depends on cost, though. I've already paid $50 for this Winegard from DirecTV, which I'm thinking was a ripoff (I don't know much about this stuff).

Just for sh*ts and giggles, last night I ran a cable upstairs and just set the antenna next to the window. I was able to pick up PBS-HD no problem (obviously, it's right up the road), but nothing else. I wasn't expecting much anyhow. I plan on bringing home an extension ladder from work tonight and installing this weekend, then praying for the best.

I got the cm4228 at Outpost.com for $50 plus shipping. Someone on this site offered to sell one for $45 the other day. The 4228 is UHF only but you'll be able to get Fox with rabbit ears. I'll sell the 7777 preamp for $45.

Originally posted by eruceht
I got the cm4228 at Outpost.com for $50 plus shipping. Someone on this site offered to sell one for $45 the other day. The 4228 is UHF only but you'll be able to get Fox with rabbit ears. I'll sell the 7777 preamp for $45.
I'll have to pass on this one, but thank you though. You say live on 2878, exactly which road is this? If you were to compare your location to the interstate north of me, what mile marker would you rate yourself at? Just trying to get an idea.

I had plans on installing the antenna tomorrow, but I was unable to bring home the extension ladder from work due to the rain. I'm not leaving the ladder outside overnight, nor am I bringing a wet ladder and setting it on the carpet, so I'll have to wait.

Also, what kind of strength do you get on the various digital stations (i.e. ABC and CBS)?

Originally posted by blurredvision
I'll have to pass on this one, but thank you though. You say live on 2878, exactly which road is this? If you were to compare your location to the interstate north of me, what mile marker would you rate yourself at? Just trying to get an idea.

I had plans on installing the antenna tomorrow, but I was unable to bring home the extension ladder from work due to the rain. I'm not leaving the ladder outside overnight, nor am I bringing a wet ladder and setting it on the carpet, so I'll have to wait.

Also, what kind of strength do you get on the various digital stations (i.e. ABC and CBS)?

2878 is also called Colonel Rd., from you take 25 north two or three miles and its on the right. It travels from exit 95 north and south. I live between 90 and 95. CBS comes in around 90%, ABC is somewhere around 70%. I can get CBS with ampifide rabbet ears, but I needed the bigger antenna for ABC and even PBS. My antenna is in the attic so you should be good with a outside install. If not you may have no choice but to go with the larger antenna w/preamp. Good luck.

I am also in Richmond just off exit 87. I pick up ABC (75%), CBS (90%), and PBS (90%). I am using a CM4221 located in my attic. I have no preamp, etc. just a straight run of RG-6 of about 40 feet.

My settop box is a Sony HD200. It is my understanding that this also factors in to how well you pick up some digital channels.

I bought my CM4221 from:

Radio-Electric Equipment
480 Skain Avenue
Lexington, KY 40508
Phone: (606) 255.6661

I am anxiously waiting for FOX, but not holding my breath for the February 4 date. I just wish NBC would quit dragging their dang heels! It is a shame that they did not have their act together like KYT and TVQ.

I have to laugh a little..
I live off 2878 near the 92-93 mile marker...

I brought home a USDTV tuner to test.. Set it up in my basement with a 6' coax attach to a loop made from a 18" alligator clip lead attached directly to the coax and can get WKYT and WKLE just fine... I moved it upstairs to the kids room and a set of rabbit ears and got PAX right off the bat...

YMMV

William

Thanks for the info guys! So how would you compare a cm4228 or 4221 to a Wingard GS-2VRD?

After checking out my situation, I'm not sure I will be able to mount my antenna outside. My only option is directly on top of the roof, and I really don't feel comfortable mounting it up there due to not knowing the correct procedures to ensure a non-leaky roof after I get done. And seeing as to how this is an apartment, I do not want that to happen at all. My landlord is fine with a small antenna on top, as no one will be able to see it anyhow, and luckily my Winegard does have a low profile.

I've about come to the conclusion that I will have to mount it somewhere upstairs in the bedroom, and maybe attach the pole to the wall so the antenna can be right next to a window. Last night I stacked some boxes and set the antenna where I think I'd want it, then scanned for channels. I was able to get WKYT's HD signal (27.1) at 90%, and PBS-HD (46.4 ?) at around 80% (it was in and out, but the night before when I just leaned the antenna against the window, I got it perfectly).

So I've just got to figure out what to do. Thanks guys.

EDIT: Just repositioned the antenna on a few boxes in the other upstairs bedroom, and I'm now getting WTVQ's HD channel at 80%! This is, however, in the bedroom and not the computer room like before, so I've got to get approval from the lady. But I feel that I'm just going to attach the pole to the ceiling in the bedroom so that the antenna hangs down. Luckily I have a dish mount pole, which is much shorter in length, so I should be able to mount the antenna without bumping our heads on it.

Originally posted by eruceht
2878 is also called Colonel Rd., from you take 25 north two or three miles and its on the right. It travels from exit 95 north and south. I live between 90 and 95.
Ah yes, I know what road you are talking about now. I work at FastSigns in Lexington, and the owners/bosses live down Pineur Dr.

Question for you guys about the digital channels for WKYT and WTVQ. Why if WKYT's digital channel is 13 and WTVQ's digital channel is 40 is WKYT showing up on 27.1 and WTVQ on 36.1 for me? I mean, shouldn't they be on their respectice channels? I've become completely confused.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Why if WKYT's digital channel is 13 and WTVQ's digital channel is 40 is WKYT showing up on 27.1 and WTVQ on 36.1 for me?

buried in the transport stream is the PSIP information. it is telling your equipment what to display as the channel number. my accessDTV software displays like shown in this attachment. the PSIP information is displayed below the channel indicator.

later

sorry, file didn't attach.

Originally posted by parkay
buried in the transport stream is the PSIP information. it is telling your equipment what to display as the channel number. my accessDTV software displays like shown in this attachment. the PSIP information is displayed below the channel indicator.

later
Ahhh, thank you. So WKYT is transmitting over 13, but the antenna/receiver is told to show it as 27.1 to make it simple for people like me ;).

Originally posted by William Smith
I have to laugh a little..
I live off 2878 near the 92-93 mile marker...

I brought home a USDTV tuner to test.. Set it up in my basement with a 6' coax attach to a loop made from a 18" alligator clip lead attached directly to the coax and can get WKYT and WKLE just fine... I moved it upstairs to the kids room and a set of rabbit ears and got PAX right off the bat...

YMMV

William

I know now the 4228 is overkill. But antennaweb.org didn't show our area as being able to get WTVQ at all. I also didn't now how much the attic install would cut down the signal. So I didn't want to invest in something and then be no better off than with the rabbit ears.

Originally posted by eruceht
But antennaweb.org didn't show our area as being able to get WTVQ at all.

http://www.louisvillehdtv.com/lex.aspx

as this page shows no lexington broadcaster is currently at full power. after they do that in the next year or so you may be able to pick them up with a very large paperclip.

later

Not true,

WKYT-DT and WKLE-DT are at full power..

The site is wrong..
In fact all 16 of KET's digtal stations are at full licensed power.

You know what would have been great? Watching 24 on FOX in HD from the beginning of the next season. :/

So is February 4th the Target date for FOX's HD tower to be operational? Man its going to suck if we can't see the Superbowl in HD, or is CBS broadcasting it?

Originally posted by Brinkley
So is February 4th the Target date for FOX's HD tower to be operational? Man its going to suck if we can't see the Superbowl in HD, or is CBS broadcasting it?

I think it is a FOX year for the Superbowl. For the sports ignorant (i.e. me) when is the SuperBowl?

Originally posted by BenCJedi
I think it is a FOX year for the Superbowl. For the sports ignorant (i.e. me) when is the SuperBowl?
It's is FOX's year for the Superbowl, and it shows on Feb 6th. Kickoff should be in the 6pm-7pm timerange.

Notice that on WDKY's website, they say they expect the tower work to be completed before Feb 4th, so hopefully they'll have the tower broadcasting well before the end of January. I'm hoping they won't cut it close to the Superbowl and make us all nervous, but I'm sure that's the date they have in the back of their minds. We can only hope for good weather so they can complete their work.

Originally posted by William Smith
The site is wrong..
In fact all 16 of KET's digtal stations are at full licensed power.

Right ... actually the site in question doesn't classify stations as "full" or "reduced" power. It just states the current power level of the station, which appears to have been interpreted incorrectly. It is in error wrt WDKY-DT which has been off air for a few weeks now (as we all know :D )

I am receiving a reading of 100 for WKYT, WTVQ and WKLE. WUPX reads 51 (who cares?). My set up shown below cost less than $70. I'm located near Palomar S/C at Harrodsburg Rd & Man-o-War. I would think that this configuration will work for anyone in the greater Lex area including Frankfort, Richmond and Georgetown. When WDKY starts up, I should be able to receive via rabbit ears.

http://content.onlineagency.com/sites/3879/images/antenna2.jpg

Originally posted by ShadowEKU
how do you get ABC HD... i live in frankfort too.

i was grandfathered in when it came to locals i have had directv since feb 1995.

frankfort cable does not come out this far as of yet i think they are finally laying lines out here but will still be a few months.

i am also using an OTA antenna the 69 dollar job at radio shack cant remeber the model number it worked fine when i got their preamp also but the preamp got spiked some how and i have not replaced it yet. i can still get KET and wkyt pretty good without it but wtvq is spotty also i have the hughes E86 reciever and it is not very good at locking in signal.

I just had the hd from insight installed with the motorolla box. The hd channels look great but the other channels look fuzzy. i have the cable going in the ant. and my hd going though my dtv. The guy said they channels would look fuzzy on the dtv setting. I checked all the connections and they are all tight. Could anyone get me any info on this if you have had the same problem or should i have insight come back out and look at it. Any help is appreciated

Originally posted by Chris082676
I just had the hd from insight installed with the motorolla box. The hd channels look great but the other channels look fuzzy. i have the cable going in the ant. and my hd going though my dtv. The guy said they channels would look fuzzy on the dtv setting. I checked all the connections and they are all tight. Could anyone get me any info on this if you have had the same problem or should i have insight come back out and look at it. Any help is appreciated

Chris,

Are you watching on a big screen TV? If so, I wouldn't expect the analog (or non-HD digital channels for that matter) to look too hot. Basically once you go HD everything looks a little worse...

I couldn't really understand from your post, but if you have the analog channels processing through the DVR box, then you will see a loss in PQ as well. The Motorolas aren't that great when it comes to passing the analog signal through. If you notice on fast moving situations, you will see pixilation on the analog channels. If you split the line and run the analog just to the TV tuner (bypassing the box), it should look slightly better.

Hope this helps!

yes, i have a 48 widescreen tv. I have a a splitter coming out of the wall one to the tv and one to the box. The one that goes directly to the tv still looks kinda fuzzy. Thanks for the help

Looking for something to try to get KET. I'm a hi-def noob who went from basic cable to Voom over the holidays. It was quite a jump. I have two wingards on my roof, one pointing towards wkyt and the other pointing toward ket. I live on Liberty road between Man o War and New Circle. I know that compared to WKYT and WTVQ, Ket's wattage is much less and that another, more powerful antenna would probably be my best bet. I want everyone's opinion about the effectiveness of my current set up before I violate my association rules with a larger antenna set up. Thanks.

Originally posted by 12Toes
Looking for something to try to get KET.

i am near the intersection of man o war and palumbo. i am able to pick up all local broadcasters, including KET and WUPX, with a silver sensor indoor antenna.

later

Originally posted by 12Toes
Looking for something to try to get KET. I'm a hi-def noob who went from basic cable to Voom over the holidays. It was quite a jump. I have two wingards on my roof, one pointing towards wkyt and the other pointing toward ket. I live on Liberty road between Man o War and New Circle. I know that compared to WKYT and WTVQ, Ket's wattage is much less and that another, more powerful antenna would probably be my best bet. I want everyone's opinion about the effectiveness of my current set up before I violate my association rules with a larger antenna set up. Thanks.

What kind of antennas do you have up there? Also, check the analog reception of KET 46 and that should give you a clue about how you're doing. You really shouldn't have a problem with a rooftop antenna as close as you are. You can get bearings to the towers from your location at
http://www.2150.com/broadcast/default.asp

I have two Winegard GS-1100's on the roof. I followed the 2150 link and according to it, I should be able to get KET with little trouble. I'm starting to suspect that it may be an installation issue. The second GS-1100 was installed after I was unable to get KET with the first. My signal strength with KET has always been around 80. The Voom hardware requires and signal of 85 before it will lock. Thanks again for any suggestions.

Originally posted by 12Toes
I have two Winegard GS-1100's on the roof.

The GS-1100 is a bidirectional antenna and not a particularly strong one, which could be part of the problem.

You might have better luck with a ChannelMaster 4221 (but that won't get you WDKY-DT when it comes back on line). A radioshack indoor double-bow tie antenna pulls in KET for me.

All that being said, at your location you might need to consider a traditional small combo VHF/UHF antenna and a rotor (if you are at all interested in FOX-HD)

And finally (just in case) make sure you aren't combining both GS-1100's on the same downlead. In fact, check that first :)

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Originally posted by 12Toes
I have two Winegard GS-1100's on the roof. I followed the 2150 link and according to it, I should be able to get KET with little trouble. I'm starting to suspect that it may be an installation issue. The second GS-1100 was installed after I was unable to get KET with the first. My signal strength with KET has always been around 80. The Voom hardware requires and signal of 85 before it will lock. Thanks again for any suggestions.

If both antennas are simply running into a splitter then you're installation is wrong. Basically, you can't have similar frequencies coming from both antennas without creating multipath unless both are pointed in the same direction, the antennas are identical, and the coax is exactly the same length up to the combiner. This is what's known as "stacking" antennas. Dissimilar antennas or identical antennas pointed in different directions requires special filtering to prevent multipath .

With your current setup you can either use a rotor with one antenna, run separate downleads from each antenna into an A/B switch behind your TV, or try using the Channelmaster Jointenna product for KET 42. If you couldn't get 42 before though with one antenna it's not likely you will unless your aim was off before. The GS1100 is not that good for UHF.

If I were starting from scratch, here's what I'd do: Put a CM 4221 or Antennasdirect DB4 on the roof with a rotor. This should get you all the stations currently receivable. Once WDKY comes on line get some rabbit ears and combine them with the rooftop antenna with a vhf/uhf diplexer behind your set. You'd then receive the VHF stations (13 and 4) with your rabbit ears while the uhf would come from the roof.

*Possibly* you might find a single position with the CM4221 or DB4 where you can receive all the current stations and thus obviate the need for the rotor. That depends on your location and bearings to the towers in question.

Hey guys. I decided to email the guy at louisvillehdtv.com about the outdated Lexington locals page, and he sent me back a pretty quick reply. He informed me that he had lost his contact in Lexington, and didn't have the correct info anymore. He asked that if I could give him the correct info, he'd update it.

Can you guys help me out with the correct info that this page needs? I think it'd be helpful to have this page updated for any new guys that come along (because they will). Thanks.

http://www.louisvillehdtv.com/lex.aspx

Thanks to HDTVChallenged and cpcat for such quick responses. I'll use the weekend check if I have a mutipath problem. I'll update when I find the problem.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Can you guys help me out with the correct info that this page needs? I think it'd be helpful to have this page updated for any new guys that come along (because they will). Thanks.

At the current time, the Lexington page is correct with the exception of WDKY-DT (FOX) which is still off-air ... And we are 'expecting the new tower to be finished by Feb 4' (per WDKY's website.) So essentially there's really nothing to "update" yet.

PS: Yes I'm checking for a signal from WDKY-DT at least a couple of times per day :D

PPS: Yes WKYT-DT's PSIP generator/channel mapping seems to be on the fritz today, so if you can't get them on 27-1,2 or 3 look at 13-1,2 or 3 (some receivers may need to do a re-scan.)

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged


PS: Yes I'm checking for a signal from WDKY-DT at least a couple of times per day :D



So am I. My channel 4 dipole is up and ready.:)

Due to new FCC rules regarding the PIDs in the program streams a lot of stations are having to adjust their systems to avoid conflicts with international standards.

KET's system was setup to avoid the problem in the first place..

Receivers may require a re-scan to pick up the new configurations..

We will be uploading new tables into the system statewide to delete the references to the analog stations to comply with new rules that go into effect on Feb 1.

This should not upset your receivers but if it does try the re-scan first.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
At the current time, the Lexington page is correct with the exception of WDKY-DT (FOX) which is still off-air ... And we are 'expecting the new tower to be finished by Feb 4' (per WDKY's website.) So essentially there's really nothing to "update" yet.
But I thought that WKYT's power rating on that page was not correct. Also, I thought there were some issues about the KET/PBS channels? Also, is it confirmed that WLEX's antenna will be put on WTVQ's tower? Lots of stuff to change IMO. I just need confirmation on what this stuff is so I don't provide the wrong info.

Originally posted by blurredvision
But I thought that WKYT's power rating on that page was not correct. Also, I thought there were some issues about the KET/PBS channels? Also, is it confirmed that WLEX's antenna will be put on WTVQ's tower? Lots of stuff to change IMO. I just need confirmation on what this stuff is so I don't provide the wrong info.

WKYT-DT is running at it's licensed full power of 30kW ERP, has been since they signed on the air. (Being on VHF makes a big difference in power requirements.) It is confirmed that WKYT-DT is configured with 1 720p(DD2.0) sub-channel for CBS-HD, a 480i sub-channel for "UPN Lexington", and another low bandwidth 480i sub-channel for weather radar. This configuration is not likely to change anytime soon ...

KET runs up to 6 480i subchannels during the day, with 2 480i subs (KET1,KET2) + 1 720p sub (PBS-HD) from 8:00pm-11:00pm Mon-Sat, 7:00pm-11:00pm on Sunday (except when the auto switcher glitches :D ) And William and co have (long ago) fixed the DD5.1 issues.

Both WLEX-DT and WTVQ-DT will broadcast from WTVQ's tower (eventually.) There have been no recent changes to report - WTVQ is still running under STA @ 61kW ERP.

WDKY-DT is still off air ...

Originally posted by William Smith
This should not upset your receivers but if it does try the re-scan first.

True, but it looks like WKYT's PSIP generator is stuck ... though some receivers may not notice the problem

Just received this e-mail from a Customer Service Manager at Insight. Based on information reported in this thread, he is off-base on several points. What do you make of this?

"Hello Mr. Bracken,



Lisa forwarded your questions to me to make sure you received the most current update we have on upcoming HDTV channel additions. Most of our negotiations for channel additions occur in our corporate offices in New York, however the local channel discussions happen here locally, initially. We are aware, locally, that ESPN2 is launching an HD version in February, however we have not been notified of a pending launch for that channel at this time.



The information you received from WDKY is the opposite of what I know to be the case. We have a signed contract with WDKY/FOX to carry their HD signal once it is on the air. They (and we) hope this will occur prior to the Super Bowl on Feb. 6th. WLEX/NBC is also close. They are constructing a new tower to facilitate the HD launch, and we are in negotiations with their management to finalize the carriage deal. I am optimistic that WLEX will be launched during February, also. WTVQ/ABC is a different story. I have heard that WTVQ local management is willing/anxious to get their signal carried on our system, however, the discussion seems to be "stuck' somewhere up the ladder. I don't know the specifics of the sticking point, but I can tell you that we have been able to reach agreements with every local channel except WTVQ. If you have any other questions, I'll be happy to run down the answers for you, just drop me a line.



Sincerely,



"name removed"

Customer Service Manager

Insight - Lexington, KY

Here is the link to the FCC's database for WLEX:

Note that analog and digital are in different places..

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?state=&call=wlex&arn=&city=&chan=&cha2=69&serv=&type=0&facid=&list=0&dist=&dlat2=&mlat2=&slat2=&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&size=9

Here is the one for WTVQ. Note the locations matches WLEX-DT's location.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?state=&call=wtvq&arn=&city=&chan=&cha2=69&serv=&type=0&facid=&list=0&dist=&dlat2=&mlat2=&slat2=&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&size=9

I can't talk about WDKY.....

William

Originally posted by pbracken
Just received this e-mail from a Customer Service Manager at Insight. Based on information reported in this thread, he is off-base on several points. What do you make of this?

"Hello Mr. Bracken, ....



Wow ... mega-confusion :D ...

Points:

1) Unless WLEX plans on running a fiber link to Insight early, or are way ahead of schedule on getting their antenna and transmitter don't expect them anytime soon.

2) William's take on WLEX is consistant with published and FCC approved contruction permit applications as well as Dave Powell's (WLEX's CE) comments to me and also posted information on www.wlextv.com

3) Re: WDKY ... unless local management is going to tell off their Sinclair bosses, don't expect WDKY-DT on cable anytime soon.

4) WDKY/Sinclair has surprised me in the past so it's always "possible."

5) Trust what William says (to the extent that he is free to speak.)

In short, it sounds like Insight may be confused ;)

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
Wow ... mega-confusion :D ...


In short, it sounds like Insight may be confused ;)


Yeah I don't know if I would really trust what the Insight reps have to say when it comes to Fox...

Here is an email I received from them on some issues regarding HD and the new Motorola 6412.

---------------------------------

Mr. Smith,

In answer to your first question, the new DVR6412 should be released 1st qtr this year. In regards to the current TV Guide, word has it that new software is being developed, and tested as we speak. Now the new software may or may not be loaded on the new DVR when released, but it will be
installed when ready.

We currently do not have any plans to have ESPN 2 in HD. I will be glad to forward your channel request to our Marketing Department. We are and have been in negotiations with WTVQ to sign a contract with Insight. WLEX is not in HDTV locally currently. FOX will be on in HD in July 2005. I do not know the date as of yet. I myself would like to see more channels in HDTV.
Insight is ready for HDTV we are waiting for everyone to come on board with HDTV. Once they sign a contract we will be glad to broadcast them in HDTV.
I do apologize for any inconvience this has caused please be patient with us and we will have the issue resolved as quickly as possible.

Thank You,

Customer Service Rep

-------------------------------

As you can see they don't really have a straight story when it comes to the Fox situation.

I just pray Fox gets their OTA tower ready in time for the Super Bowl. I am going to have to start planning my party soon!! :)

Anyone else notice that WKYT added 'pillar bars' on the UPN subchannel? Previously while watching Enterprise there were no black bars on the side (just on the top and bottom to make the image widescreen aspect ratio). Tonight Enterprise had black bars on all sides. This ruins my no-re-encode required to author DVDs from the .2 subchannel. The former display was extremely conducive for porting right to DVD (resolution, aspect ratio and bitrate). The pillar box will still work, except my DVD player will unfortunately also show them with the new screen setup.

Is there a particular reason why WKYT is 'pillar boxing' the UPN subchannel now? Did they realize the former screen display made it easy (and more favorably presentable) to port to DVD or did the TV operator tonight forget to flip a switch?

Originally posted by BenCJedi
Anyone else notice that WKYT added 'pillar bars' on the UPN subchannel?

it looked the same as usual to me. i don't know what equipment you are using, but with my accessDTV i only get the pillars when i am set to display at 1080i. if i set the display as 480p the pillar's go away.

later

Originally posted by parkay
it looked the same as usual to me. i don't know what equipment you are using, but with my accessDTV i only get the pillars when i am set to display at 1080i. if i set the display as 480p the pillar's go away.

later

I nuked and paved my PC yesterday and am still setting up software including preferences I had for MyHD. You're right. Nothing has changed. I just had to change the output for MyHD (which did not affect how the .1 subchannel appeared, so I had assumed a change was made to the .2 subchannel). False alarm! I realized my error when I put the source to HDTV2MPEG2. It will continue to be nice to port UPN programming right to DVD, though admittingly I like when WKYT reruns the previous week's episode next Thursday night because they don't alter the credits with previews for other programming.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
I like when WKYT reruns the previous week's episode next Thursday night because they don't alter the credits with previews for other programming.

they do the same for the sunday nite showing.

too bad they don't make at least one of three broadcasts in HDTV.

later

Originally posted by parkay
they do the same for the sunday nite showing.

too bad they don't make at least one of three broadcasts in HDTV.

later

If they did that, the source wouldn't fit in DVD-format so nicely (would need re-encoded). Though it would be nice to look at natively.

i had HD installed by insight about a week ago. The reception i have on the regular channels is poor at best. Also my HD channels go in and out like a satellite when its raining. Is this normal for the HD channels? I was looking into a signal boost. Would this help my HD and my regular channels. The signal boost i was looking at is the motorolla 484095-001-00 for 49.99 at circuit city . By the reviews it looks like a good investment. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help

Originally posted by Chris082676
The reception i have on the regular channels is poor at best.

are you viewing the 'regular channels' through the cable box or using the SDTV tuner built into your HDTV. (i assume that 'regular channels' means standard analog cable and not non-HD dightal cable.)

if you are using the HDTV's internal SD tuner you might check your users manual. my HDTV has a built in LNA (low noise amplifier) that i must enable to get a good picture from insight.

i get my HDTV over-the-air so i can't answer anything about insights HD service. but my HD service dosen't mess up when it is raining either.

later

Sometime between "Lost" on Wednesday and "Less than Perfect" on Friday, WTVQ appears to have started passing the full DD5.1 mix when available from ABC ... OTOH, they are still leaving the 5.1 flag set on 2.0 sources ...

I also noticed they were having PSIP issues on Thursday ... so perhaps the two events are related.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
Sometime between "Lost" on Wednesday and "Less than Perfect" on Friday, WTVQ appears to have started passing the full DD5.1 mix when available from ABC ... OTOH, they are still leaving the 5.1 flag set on 2.0 sources ...

I also noticed they were having PSIP issues on Thursday ... so perhaps the two events are related.


I noticed this during Desperate Housewives. I thought it was my imagination at first. :D Can't wait to see Lost this week.

Speaking of DD5.1, have none of the playoff games on CBS not had DD5.1 going? If so, I haven't been able to pick it up the past couple of weekends.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Speaking of DD5.1, have none of the playoff games on CBS not had DD5.1 going? If so, I haven't been able to pick it up the past couple of weekends.

I don't believe WKYT does DD5.1 they only do DD2.0.

PSIP changes are complete at WKLE-DT and WKON-DT..


Someone on here was having trouble with the Dish 921 after an upgrade and someone else was asking about slow tuning on KET's feed.

Please check your receivers and let me know if it helped..

Any updates for WDKY and their new tower? I know the info hasn't changed on their site, but maybe someone has some inside info to share?? They've only got a little over 2 weeks to complete their work to make their deadline.

Originally posted by William Smith
PSIP changes are complete at WKLE-DT and WKON-DT..


Someone on here was having trouble with the Dish 921 after an upgrade and someone else was asking about slow tuning on KET's feed.

Please check your receivers and let me know if it helped..


I was able to scan in WKLE on my 921 last night. Watched some of the show about the Concorde on 46-4 last night without any problems. Working fine this morning too. I will let you know if I see anything different. Thanks.

Originally posted by William Smith
PSIP changes are complete at WKLE-DT and WKON-DT..


Someone on here was having trouble with the Dish 921 after an upgrade and someone else was asking about slow tuning on KET's feed.

Please check your receivers and let me know if it helped..

I forgot to check on my MyHD card. My antenna is out of whack and I am getting poor signal for WKLE now. As soon as I can repoint that I'll give it a shot. I was the one with the slow tuning problem.

Looks like they have managed to get the STL dish up on the tower.

I saw it on my way in.

Originally posted by William Smith
Looks like they have managed to get the STL dish up on the tower.

I saw it on my way in.

I bet the construction crew or whoever mounted the antenna is wishing they could have done it a couple weeks ago when it was like 60F outside.

WDKY has updated their website, but nothing new about the tower or when they will be up. There is an interesting article justifying why their HD content will never be carried on cable, at least for the foreseeable future.

www.wdky56.com

Originally posted by William Smith
Looks like they have managed to get the STL dish up on the tower.

I saw it on my way in.

Any chance of elaborating on what that means, exactly? Is that the last thing they usually do on the tower, for example, or will there likely be more weather-dependent outdoor work to do?

I ate lunch in Chevy Chase today, there is no matching dish on the roof of their building aimed at Clays Ferry at this time.

STL = Studio to Transmitter Link

Originally posted by William Smith
I ate lunch in Chevy Chase today, there is no matching dish on the roof of their building aimed at Clays Ferry at this time.

STL = Studio to Transmitter Link

Humm ... a bit over two weeks to go ... looking kind of dicey for Superbowl Sunday.

BTW: No problems with the KET PSIP updates yesterday ( with the assumption that KET6 was not active today. )

So they have the STL up on the tower, but no visible signs of a matching dish on the roof of their building. Like cpcat asked, where in the process does this fall? Is all of the equipment up on the tower now? Is there anything else that needs to be put up? Is there testing involved after everything is "wired" up?

Thanks guys for the info given so far.

Originally posted by blurredvision
So they have the STL up on the tower, but no visible signs of a matching dish on the roof of their building.

... never discount the possibility that they might need two STL's (one for digital and one for analog) ... the $64 question is which transmitter will they bring up first

Originally posted by William Smith
someone else was asking about slow tuning on KET's feed.

Please check your receivers and let me know if it helped..

thanx, the tuning issue seems much improved. previously it took about 90 seconds for my accessDTV to display a picture after tuning to KET. i now get a picture in about 15-20 seconds.

later

Mr. Smith.

Their feed is fed through our fiber to WKYT and then on to the tower via their microwave. Interesting bit they have about cable companies on the front of their web page. To the best of my knowledge and the information I have, WDKY's Digital Signal will be available on Insight as soon as they are fully operational at the new transmitter site.

Winston Boggs
Technical Operations Manager
Insight Communications

Ahh,

So they implemented Plan "D" to get it down the road...

(Can't talk really talk about it)

Not sure what plan they are on. But regardless of the feed to the transmitter, the Digital Signal will be on the Lexington System.

Originally posted by bitblaze
Not sure what plan they are on. But regardless of the feed to the transmitter, the Digital Signal will be on the Lexington System.

Well the million dollar question is... will Super Bowl 2005 be on "the Lexington System"? Those of us who don't currently have Insight HD might jump if that was to happen...

Originally posted by William Smith
So they implemented Plan "D"...

well, at least it wasn't 'Plan 9'.

Originally posted by ragamuffin
Well the million dollar question is... will Super Bowl 2005 be on "the Lexington System"? Those of us who don't currently have Insight HD might jump if that was to happen...

Personally, I might have an issue if "the Lexington System" were fed HD before the official "community of license" had their OTA FOX-HD restored (such that it was) ;) :D

I was wondering if WDKY was "leasing" technical support/capability from WKYT (in addition to the newscast deal.) It does seem like one would need bit more than roof-top altitude to get a clear shot from Lexington down to Clay's Ferry.

What's the newscast deal? I don't watch WDKY cause they are not digital and I have my waiver for distant FOX stations on my dish. Though I am very interested in watching them when they get the HD going. I hope that is soon.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
What's the newscast deal?

when WDKY started broadcasting the ten o'clock news they hired marvin bartlett to be the anchor. other than that, every thing was produced at WKYT's studio with WKYT people. i haven't watched the news on WDKY or WKYT recently, but i assume that something of that sort is still going on.

later

Originally posted by parkay
when WDKY started broadcasting the ten o'clock news they hired marvin bartlett to be the anchor. other than that, every thing was produced at WKYT's studio with WKYT people {...} i assume that something of that sort is still going on.


Correct ... Speaking of WKYT news, anybody else notice that they've replaced their "old" RPTV monitors that had severe cases of WKYT logo burn-in with brand new widescreens? Perhaps WKYT has learned their lessons about the dangers of screen burn-in ;)

Is anyone having issues locking onto the signal from Digital 36? I get WKYT 27-1 thru 27-3 with 100% signal strength. Is WTVQ having some issues?

Originally posted by Brinkley
Is anyone having issues locking onto the signal from Digital 36?

no problems from here. but i am only about 4 miles from the tower.

later

Originally posted by Brinkley
Is anyone having issues locking onto the signal from Digital 36? I get WKYT 27-1 thru 27-3 with 100% signal strength. Is WTVQ having some issues?

I had trouble last week but eventually got locked back onto their signal. I live off Pasadena Dr. and I just use an amplified indoor antenna.

Several months ago I could lock onto 36 digital signal without any problems at all. No changes on my end that I am aware of.

Originally posted by Brinkley
No changes on my end that I am aware of.

that could be the problem. you may have to move the antenna around as seasonal changes in the atmosphere cause variations in signal propogation (sp?).

Problem fixed. Thanks for your reponses. It's great having CBS and ABC HD, but not having NBC and FOX is just a tease. Especially with the announcement of FOX coming on live in February. NBC hasn't updated their site on the progess of their HD transmitter since November. Anyone know some inside information about NBC?

17 days till SuperBowl. Will FOX be on? Hopefully......

Originally posted by Brinkley
Problem fixed. Thanks for your reponses. It's great having CBS and ABC HD, but not having NBC and FOX is just a tease. Especially with the announcement of FOX coming on live in February. NBC hasn't updated their site on the progess of their HD transmitter since November. Anyone know some inside information about NBC?

17 days till SuperBowl. Will FOX be on? Hopefully......


Where will the new Fox and NBC digital broadcast antennas be? I was under the impression that Fox was going to be at Clay's Ferry, but not sure about NBC.

Thanks

Originally posted by pczarapa
Where will the new Fox and NBC digital broadcast antennas be? I was under the impression that Fox was going to be at Clay's Ferry, but not sure about NBC.

Thanks

NBC will share ABC's tower when it is installed sometime this summer.

Ok...tell me if this sounds odd. I had the Zenith Silver Sensor indoor antenna and it worked flawlessly picking up the local HD stations. Well, I went out to Best Buy out in South park and bought a Terk model UHF/UHF that looked identical to the silver sensor with the exception of the rabbit ears to pick up the FOX station when its up and running. Like i said it looks just like the silver sensor so I expected it to work just the same. Well, I could get CBS HD just fine, but ABC HD was a different story. Here is where I find this weird. The antenna can be pulled out of the base so I was thinking there was absolutely no way it would pull in a signal, well I was wrong. I now can pull in both CBS, ABC with signal strength's in the 70's and 80's on both stations with the actual antenna out of the base!! Any ideas on this? I am not complaining, just found this rather odd. THanks.

Sometime between "Lost" on Wednesday and "Less than Perfect" on Friday, WTVQ appears to have started passing the full DD5.1 mix when available from ABC ... OTOH, they are still leaving the 5.1 flag set on 2.0 sources ...


Still only DD 5.0 ... no subwoofer channel:confused:

Originally posted by N.REED
Still only DD 5.0 ... no subwoofer channel:confused:

The other odd thing they are doing is putting all the music and dialog in the front center speaker. The front and rear surrounds are only sounding out effect type sounds. Basically this means mono music accompaniment. Maybe this is how the audio engineers mixed LOST. I dunno.

I am looking to get a Samsung OTA SIR-T451 for OTA. Does anyone have this Tuner? Also I live by Cheddars on Tates Creek Rd. Zip 40517. Will the Terk Indoor Antenna (looks like the Silver Sensor) work for all of the OTA channels in Lexington including the upcoming Fox?

I don't normally watch our local FOX here, but caught the news last night. I was hoping they would divulge if WDKY-DT was on schedule to go live by the Super Bowl as they announced the teams. I don't really care about football.. it's the HD I want, but if football is the driving force to it, so be it. Hopefully they will light that thing up soon or share some news about the current status.

"I am looking to get a Samsung OTA SIR-T451 for OTA. Does anyone have this Tuner? Also I live by Cheddars on Tates Creek Rd. Zip 40517. Will the Terk Indoor Antenna (looks like the Silver Sensor) work for all of the OTA channels in Lexington including the upcoming Fox?"





If I was getting an OTA tuner right now I'd get the LG LST 4200a.

You should be able to get FOX with rabbit ears once it's up and running. If the antenna you have is a true clone of the Silver Sensor it should do O.K. for UHF, but Terk has a rep for underperforming and being overpriced. You'll need to combine the Terk (UHF) with the rabbit ears (VHF) via a diplexer such as the Channelmaster 0549 available online through Starkelectronics.com.

You might look into the RadioShack 15-1880 as a single solution for UHF and VHF. WTVQ-40 may be hit or miss with any indoor/set-top antenna (depending on your location) until it's at full power though, which should be by this summer.

The other guys here can chime in, but I believe stable reception of WTVQ even in areas of Lexington often requires at least an attic antenna at this point. The CM 4221 is a good option for UHF in a small package but you'll have to add VHF somehow (see above, rabbit ears and diplexer). You can also go with a smallish vhf/uhf combo antenna but the risk is that the uhf section won't be adequate for an attic install.

I'm here in lexington, next to central baptist hospital. I have the Terk -55 antenna, and can get 27, 36, with no problem. Can't wait for 18 and 56 to get their acts together.

Originally posted by sleddogn
I'm here in lexington, next to central baptist hospital. I have the Terk -55 antenna, and can get 27, 36, with no problem. Can't wait for 18 and 56 to get their acts together.

You should probably mention for Mothergoose's sake where it's installed.
I'm assuming you're outdoors.

"27" is VHF 13 while "36" is actually UHF 40.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
Hopefully they (WDKY) will light that thing up soon or share some news about the current status.
Here's how I see it. They updated their website a week ago, and did rearrange/reword some of their FAQ about HD on their HD questions page. Obviously, when they changed stuff around, they kept the date to before Feb 4th. I try to see that as a good thing, because if they think they'll still "turn it on" before the 4th less than 3 weeks before hand, maybe they are about ready.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Here's how I see it. They updated their website a week ago, and did rearrange/reword some of their FAQ about HD on their HD questions page. Obviously, when they changed stuff around, they kept the date to before Feb 4th. I try to see that as a good thing, because if they think they'll still "turn it on" before the 4th less than 3 weeks before hand, maybe they are about ready.

Gotta love an optomist. :)

Lets just say the air date is "up in the air" at this time...

Originally posted by William Smith
Lets just say the air date is "up in the air" at this time...

well let's hope it doesn't slip too much. while i would like to see the superbowl in HDTV, i am dying to see the daytona 500. that is scheduled for feb 20.

later

They would like you to see it in HD... its not really their fault....

Did anyone else lose WTVQ the other night at the end of Desperate Housewives?

The top half of the picture just went to shreds somehow. That was the only HD channel that did that so I assume it was something on their part.

Originally posted by pjohnscpa
The top half of the picture just went to shreds somehow. That was the only HD channel that did that so I assume it was something on their part.

Yep ... they "rebooted" their encoder about 5 minutes into "Boston Legal" to fix the problem. This seems to be a recurring problem with ABC and some of their affiliates' encoder equipment. At least WTVQ seems to be watching for it now - in the early days the "checkerboard" sometimes went on for the entire evening.

I don't have quite enough signal to get a lock, but I'm guessing WDKY-DT may have fired up their transmitter this afternoon.

under seemingly dead band conditions, I'm now(1:40pm EST) getting an indication of 8VSB signal on RF 4 from the South -- Judging by previous experience in looking at my receivers "signal quality" meter, a "seat of pants" guess would be that it's probably about 3~5db or so away from a lock from about 118 miles directly North of the Clay's Ferry tower site.

I'm also seeing nice clean "snow" on channel 4 on a analog, non-screen muting TV, instead of any sign of signal from WCMH 4, Columbus Ohio off the side(which is what I usually get on 4) ...

when I get a chance, I'll try turning off some nearby PC's/etc(the RF shielding on the tuner doesn't seem so great on lo-VHF) and take a splitter out of line to see if I can get a lock on them under dead band conditions ...

Update: The DTV signal on 4 from the South seems to apparently be gone at 1:50pm, I'm back to getting WCMH 4 Columbus off the side ... Must've been a test, unless it was a touch of E-skip from the Channel 4 DT in South Georgia, or the signal has faded presently ...

Note: VHF Antenna here is Winegard CS-5200(Ch 2-13 broadband VHF antenna - 200" boom - approx 39 elements) at 33ft - using channel traps for nearby strong signals on 2+7 with it, as well as a CM7778 preamp(FM trap in/using it's "seperate VHF" input of course, which doesn't pass UHF)

Originally posted by Nitewatchman
Update: The DTV signal on 4 from the South seems to apparently be gone at 1:50pm, I'm back to getting WCMH 4 Columbus off the side ... Must've been a test, unless it was a touch of E-skip from the Channel 4 DT in South Georgia, or the signal has faded presently ...

Time 2:06EST ... nada, nyet, not even a whiff of signal on my boxes, but for those who have hope, I suppose it's possible that it was a low power test. ;)

If it was from them, I doubt it was low power, as I've only (barely) seen a hint of the ~250 Watts ERP they used to send up my way from the old site with their directional antenna only on one occasion previously. Unless that too was potentially a signal from WMAZ-DT 4 Macon Georgia via Sporadic E propagation. I doubt it though given the conditions at the time, or presently. ...

Also, that "other" time, the other Lex stations(including FM's) - DT's and analogs were just booming in, and the DT signal on 4 was bouncing all over the place due the noise level from other co-channel stations on 4 being quite high ..... This time, not much going on DX wise, and it was a quite steady 8VSB signal on 4 during the few minutes that I "noticed it" ... If I would have had time, I might have been able to have gotten a lock on the "whatever it was" (depending upon if they were sending any sort of "recognizable" datastream beyond just a 8VSB signal) if I turned off the nearby PC's/etc (this tuner's RF shielding doesn't seem too great on lo-VHF), and maybe got rid of a splitter ...

Originally posted by Nitewatchman
If it was from them, I doubt it was low power, as I've only (barely) seen a hint of the ~250 Watts ERP they used to send up my way from the old site with their directional antenna only on one occasion previously.

Well ... at the moment, I'm leaning toward the distant skip theory. FWIW, I've actually had to start dialing in about 8dB attenuation to get a steady lock on WLKY-DT with the E86. I suspect I'm getting intermod from WKYT 27 or CCI from the WB 26 station up your way (or both) ... the Tivo seems to be unaffected by the problem.

In any case, still no whiffs on ch4 here. OTOH, it's clear, relatively calm and a balmy 50F ... a perfect day for tower scaling ;)

Originally posted by William Smith
Lets just say the air date is "up in the air" at this time...
Now from what I read, you work for KET/PBS or some other local TV station. Do you have accurate info that you just can't share, or are you yanking our chain? Is "up in the air" a pun?? Damn you and your silly games!!! :P :D

!. Yes, I work for KET ( for 19 years now)..
2. Yes , I have information I can't disclose in public..
3. No, I am not yanking your chain....
4. "Up in the air" is a referernce to a major componet required to make the station operate... Draw your own conclusions...

No Games... At least I talk to people... not lurk and hide like other people...

I think he was just funnin' with ya' William.

I'm thankful for your involvement here as I'm sure others are as well.


Now... Let me get that "broadcast tower construction handbook" I have out and see if I can figure out what this component is we're talking about.
:)

Originally posted by William Smith
!. Yes, I work for KET ( for 19 years now)..
2. Yes , I have information I can't disclose in public..
3. No, I am not yanking your chain....
4. "Up in the air" is a referernce to a major componet required to make the station operate... Draw your own conclusions...

No Games... At least I talk to people... not lurk and hide like other people...

Hopefully that one magician that made the Statue of Liberty disappear did not take away the tower component. My hope is that WDKY has all the equipment, but just can't get anyone to climb up and hook it all together. I'm sure various folks on this forum would volunteer (snicker). Come on.. it would be an adventure!

And William, we all appreciate you contributing to our limited knowledge of broadcasting and broadcasting politics in our area. It's really great hearing about this stuff. Thanks!

Originally posted by BenCJedi
but just can't get anyone to climb up and hook it all together. I'm sure various folks on this forum would volunteer (snicker). Come on.. it would be an adventure!

let me know when you are ready. i'll come and help hold up the net at the base of the tower. who is bringing the beer?

later

Originally posted by cpcat
If I was getting an OTA tuner right now I'd get the LG LST 4200a.

You should be able to get FOX with rabbit ears once it's up and running. If the antenna you have is a true clone of the Silver Sensor it should do O.K. for UHF, but Terk has a rep for underperforming and being overpriced. You'll need to combine the Terk (UHF) with the rabbit ears (VHF) via a diplexer such as the Channelmaster 0549 available online through Starkelectronics.com.


I heard lots of good comment on the silver sensor, but when I stopped by BestBuy, they had trek, which looks like the silver sensor. I tried that and I could not get the reception for MNF, so I returned it and bought the expensive Samsung HDTV antenna and a Jensen Amplified Antenna. The Jensen Amplified antenna worked best for me.

Originally posted by William Smith
!. Yes, I work for KET ( for 19 years now)..
2. Yes , I have information I can't disclose in public..
3. No, I am not yanking your chain....
4. "Up in the air" is a referernce to a major componet required to make the station operate... Draw your own conclusions...

No Games... At least I talk to people... not lurk and hide like other people...
Oh no! I was just messing with you. I figured the toungue and big grin would set off my playfulness. I like it that you post in this thread. Without you, we wouldn't have as much knowledge that would accompany our guessing :D. But, if at any time, you want to give me a date, I promise I won't tell anyone. :p

Looks like Nitewatchman was right after all ...

As of 1:05pm:

I've got a heartbeat from the WDKY-DT transmitter this afternoon, but nothing decodable yet .... progress :D

I'm not sure if they are anywhere near "full power" yet. The best signal quality/strength is still a notch or two below what I got from the old location ... time to retune the antenna again ;)

Again: The transmitter is alive, but no programming yet ...

Nothing yet at Clays Mill area 3:37pm for WDKY. Not even a blip. Time to mess with the antenna

I am trying to get ready for WDKY, and purchased a set of rabbit ears at Radio Shack. I was going to get a diplexer to combine my UHF roof mounted antenna with my new rabbit ears, but the guy at radio shack said I could use a splitter in reverse. The splitter was about half the cost of the diplexer. Will this actually work, or should I splurge and purchase a real diplexer?

I'm receiving a signal on VHF-4... but no picture...

EDIT: They're now off at 4:55pm... The signal I saw was a "73" on my HiPix meter... using a CM-7777 preamp and Radio Shack VU-190 antenna. Typically I see a "max" in the mid 80's on WKYT-DT and WTVQ-DT using my CM-4228 8 bow-tie antenna (I don't know why the HiPix never reaches 100 on their scale). Above "40" is good enough to lock on signals from Louisville and Cincinnati for my HiPix... My location is near Man-O'War and Harrodsburg Road intersection.

Originally posted by ragamuffin
I'm receiving a signal on VHF-4... but no picture...

Strong or weak signal? If it is low power and I am not optimally pointed, that could be my problem.

I got activity also... but did not get a lock... seems to be gone as of 4:56.

Originally posted by ragamuffin
I'm receiving a signal on VHF-4... but no picture...

I'm reasonably sure that there was no actual data being broadcasted.

My guess is that they were just testing the TX and tuning things (exciters et al) up. FWIW, while I was monitoring, the signal showed the same old bouncing and dropouts as it did from the old location, but it's kind of hard to gauge "how bad it is" until actual programming comes across.

5 o'clock must be quittin' time. :D

Originally posted by pbracken
I am trying to get ready for WDKY, and purchased a set of rabbit ears at Radio Shack. I was going to get a diplexer to combine my UHF roof mounted antenna with my new rabbit ears, but the guy at radio shack said I could use a splitter in reverse. The splitter was about half the cost of the diplexer. Will this actually work, or should I splurge and purchase a real diplexer?

Get a VHF/UHF diplexer. The CM 0549 at Starkelectronics is good. RS also has one but I wasn't impressed with it's performance. PICO electronics makes a good one as well. None that I've seen are over 7 or 8 bucks.

The reason you need a diplexer is you must remove the VHF signals from the UHF side and vice-versa otherwise both signals will be degraded with multipath.

Another other tests today for WDKY?

I tried about a quarter to 5pm today and no signal at all. I was hoping they'd test today when I am actually off from work, so I could get excited a little.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Another other tests today for WDKY?

Not that I could see, but then again, I really didn't expect to see any ... Anyhow, let's hope that the mysterious "missing component" can be "found" before Feb 4th ;)

Talked to a nice lady at WDKY 56 just a minute ago... she sounded very sure they would be broadcasting digitally "beginning of next week". Lets keep our fingers crossed!

Originally posted by N.REED
...they would be broadcasting digitally "beginning of next week".

did she also say that the easter bunny would be here shortly thereafter?

:D

Thanks for the post NReed. I'm hoping to hop on here sometime real soon and see that some of you are enjoying WDKY in digital :). We're getting down to the wire, but I'm still pretty optomistic since we've heard nothing of any delays or problems.

Ate dinner in Chevy Chase tonight, looks like their STL dish now points toward the river instead of WKYT... They may make it as the digital has been on testing. (without any programming just random bits).

I was buying some new cables through an online order and picked up two 41.5" poles that I have retrofitted to my tabletop antenna in the attic. The original dipoles on this antenna were much too short (one side was busted). Hopefully I get to see some WDKY-DT signal in the coming week.

Here's some useful info on 'rabbit ears':
http://www.kyes.com/antenna/rabbitear.html

Originally posted by William Smith
Ate dinner in Chevy Chase tonight, looks like their STL dish now points toward the river instead of WKYT... They may make it as the digital has been on testing. (without any programming just random bits).

Excellent. Thanks for once again for going above and beyond. And congrats on once again beating most of the commercial stations in making deadlines (specifically in getting your round one DTV channel elections filed.)

quote: let me know when you are ready. i'll come and help hold up the net at the base of the tower. who is bringing the beer?


Beer first then climb!

Scanned this Sat eve. and not getting any signal on 4 using a pair of rabit ears . I am maybe 400 to 500 meters from the new antenna at Shiloh Point subdivision.

Dave

William -- Your night lights are brighter that theirs

On insight channel 766 is says channel available soon. Could it be for WDKY? Sure hope so. Anyone else notice this?

Ours are solid-state LEDs!!

As for climbing towers, I've always heard it takes two fifths of the good stuff .... One before they climb and one to get them down...

Originally posted by William Smith
Ours are solid-state LEDs!!

As for climbing towers, I've always heard it takes two fifths of the good stuff .... One before they climb and one to get them down...

Seems like going down would be the easy part. :)

Hey William

I think I remember you now, didn't you meet with my headend guys when we launched your Digital Service?
Winston

It seems WDKY is "testing" again. Must be working late (and weekends) which I guess is a good sign.

Originally posted by cpcat
It seems WDKY is "testing" again. Must be working late (and weekends) which I guess is a good sign.

Actually getting the channel right now!

Originally posted by bitblaze
Hey William

I think I remember you now, didn't you meet with my headend guys when we launched your Digital Service?
Winston

Yes, Bob Ball and I brought over a test decoder and a portable server with samples of our transport stream so we could see how your home decoders would handle the stream when we changed modes of operation.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
Seems like going down would be the easy part. :)

Not really, When you climb up you can use both your arms and legs but going down all the work is on your legs..


Been there done that.....

Climbed up a 90 ft tower that was leaning against a cliff to get to a FM transmitter site once .... only to find it anchored over a root and it was 10 feet too short for comfort ( it was 2:00 am and I was climbing using a miner's lamp) of course there was only one way down after I fixed the transmitter.. It was in Whitesburg and I was a lot younger...

Nothing was waiting for me at the top or bottom of the tower....

Anyone else getting WDKY? I'm registering a signal but no lock down here.
I'm hoping maybe they're still not up to full power. If they are, looks like I'm going antenna shopping again.

Getting a signal too... but no lock.

I "see" the DT signal up here currently, but it's farther from a lock(S/N not high enough) than it was the other 2 days I noticed earlier this week I noticed it ... Little more noise from co-channel stations is present as well, and the ice on my antenna might not be helping things either ...

back to the whiskey ....

got a 65 signal on 4 here in northern franklin county without a preamp watching mad tv as we speak no stutters seems to be good signal :D

9-100% signal here.. bouncing all over the friggin' place. Can't get a lock.

mine is going between 58 and 65 but picture is rock solid which is weird cause i have a E86 reciever and 27 and 36 are very spotty here. 27 is more stable than 36 though.
but wdky is performing great no drop outs what so ever!

Getting the WDKY signal at 90%. I live right off of exit 90, with the tower being off exit 97. Picture looks like it should, but with some fuzzy lines running horizontally at the top of the screen every now and then. Not sure what you guys mean by "getting a lock", but I have no drop outs.

Thumbs up to WDKY for getting their tower going, and having a full week to tweak things before the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by BenCJedi
9-100% signal here.. bouncing all over the friggin' place. Can't get a lock.

Arrgh! ... That's what I get for trying to catch up on my UTV and Tivo backlogs ... Scooped again :D

FWIW, from the old location my signal meter often "bounced" quite a bit, but if it's swinging that wildly, you've probably got a multipath issue.

Man... no luck here in lexington so far. I have the Directv RCA DTC 210 model HD receiver and I can't seem to find out how to manually type in FOX's digital channel 4. I scan and scan, try different positions with rabbit ears and still nothing.

Brinkley,

I am having the same problem. I am located off Pasadena Dr. about a mile from Nicolasville Rd. Hopefully I will be able to pick up the signal before next Sunday!

Actually 100% is rare here. It's in a 0-9-11% pattern over at Clays Mill Rd. Hopefully WDKY is not full power. Maybe I need an amp? The TV/VCR amp I had been using for the cable run isn't doing the trick?

I did get one complete image, some green blockage and every other position I have tried with the rabbit ears has failed even at that. Sucks living in an apartment.

I found a better spot that fluctuates from 0-21-25-28% with the occasional 100% (but of course no picture).

It wouldn't be as hard positioning the antenna except the unit is so old that the recently installed 'ears' flop down. I'm giving them some super glue to make them stay and will give another shot at the attic location.

Has anyone gotten a signal lock inside their home/apartment? I assume those of you with the nice locks have antennas outside?

Originally posted by BenCJedi
Has anyone gotten a signal lock inside their home/apartment? I assume those of you with the nice locks have antennas outside?

My combo and the homespun dipole are in the attic ... The signal strength is still down a few clicks, but so far the actual performance is on par with the old location ... as long as I don't use the microwave.

It does sound like you may need more height ....

Back into the attic and 28-32% signal. Almost locked.. It's like watching a Real Media clip with all the macro blocking. I wonder if my amp has anything to do with this. Going to take it off and see what signal I get. I just kept stacking boxes until I hit the magic spot. I'm close.

http://home.insightbb.com/~refuel/pics/HDTV/WDKY_image02.jpg

Got it, but VERY ugly looking right now (cables across the floor and hanging out of the ceiling portal). I am just barely hanging onto a lock at 28 - 36%.

It's clear to me I need a Channel Master 7777 as I am sure the noise figure isn't helped any by my crappy amp. They sell that at Lowes?

I am afraid to breath. The antenna is in a magic spot as I currently have

WDKY: 28-36%
KET: 64%
WKYT: 81%
WTVQ: 58% - 64%

It's balanced on empty boxes. Hopefully WDKY is just low power right now, so I won't have to buy anything. At least we have all week to improve reception.

Gettin around a 92% signal here with my HDtivo between Winchester and MT.Sterling. Looks like the nice lady at WDKY was right!

Originally posted by BenCJedi
It's clear to me I need a Channel Master 7777 as I am sure the noise figure isn't helped any by my crappy amp. They sell that at Lowes?

Lowes sells the 3041 pre amp. This uses a 300 ohm wire to hookup ant to amp and coax to the tuner. Don't know if this will work for you.


I live in Gleneagles across I-75 from Hamburg. I have a CM 3016 UHF/VHF combo in my attic. My Dish 921 rec's signal meter goes from 0 to 125. Last night and this morning my meter is pegged at 125. My preamp powercord is unplugged.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
Has anyone gotten a signal lock inside their home/apartment? I assume those of you with the nice locks have antennas outside?
After checking this morning, I'm still getting a 90% signal with a clear picture at all times. I have my antenna mounted on the wall in an upstairs bedroom, so I'm inside.

http://www.nelsonplain.com/image2005.jpg

looks like i need to try another antenna. all other locals are coming in fine but WDKY is not making my signal meter move at all.

i am at MOW and palumbo.

(nice shot ragamuffin)

Originally posted by blurredvision
After checking this morning, I'm still getting a 90% signal with a clear picture at all times. I have my antenna mounted on the wall in an upstairs bedroom, so I'm inside.

I've been waiting for this...I'm getting 100% signal this morning with no dropouts over here in Versailles...

I have a roof top mounted 2-6 VHF antenna along with my CM4228... Super Bowl will be sweet this year..:D

Chuck

Antennas do work better outdoors....

WDKY must have got their paperwork straight with the FCC to let them operate the digital from the new site and the analog at the old one.


Wonder how the latest news ratings will affect the relationship between WDKY and WKYT..

figures i had a good lock last night now the signal is 51 to 58 and breaking up

I havn't pulled it in yet here in the east part of Franklin Co I am sure I need a better antenna

I'm right off Keithshire Way behind Fayette Mall/Clays Mill Rd area and the best I have gotten is 40% signal from indoors. I'd like at least 50% because mostly I am at 28% which is barely a lock. When people walk in certain areas of the apartment the signal gets all glitchy. I could just put up yellow "do not cross" tape in those areas. :)

http://home.insightbb.com/~refuel/pics/HDTV/WDKY_image03.jpg

Ben,

You aren't far from me. What type of indoor antenna are you using? I'm using some cheap Wal-Mart amplified one, but I am having no luck getting Fox off Pasadena Dr.

Originally posted by William Smith
Antennas do work better outdoors....






I'm located in Grant County KY just outside of Dry Ridge, and with the antenna pointed directly toward Lexington KY I'm getting a full signal in the normal range according to my on screen signal meter on my receiver.

I have a question that so far no one is able to give me a response. I have the Directv DTC-210 HD receiver and I would like to add my local digital stations. I know how to scan for digital channels fine. I just need to actually "manually" enter one station in particular that the digital scan does not pick up. I know on the Dish network 811 you could manually input channels to get signal strengths. Is the FOX station 4-1 ? If so, how do i manually put that in my RCA DTC-210 receiver? I hate hitting the scan channel button everytime I make an antenna adjustment! lol

Thanks so much.

Originally posted by William Smith
Antennas do work better outdoors....

Yep ... with the exception of WKYT, I get a better signal from WAVE and WLKY @ 76mi ( with an outdoor antenna) than I do from all of the Lex/Rich stations @ 30ish mi (with attic antennas.)

WDKY must have got their paperwork straight with the FCC to let them operate the digital from the new site and the analog at the old one

Speaking of that, any chance that they are just running under temporary testing authority? I'm certainly no legal expert, but on the surface, I don't see any reason why the analog and digital *have* to be operated from the same location ... afterall, the CP's/Licences for analog/digital are seperate documents.

Originally posted by Brinkley
I have a question that so far no one is able to give me a response. I have the Directv DTC-210 HD receiver and I would like to add my local digital stations. I know how to scan for digital channels fine. I just need to actually "manually" enter one station in particular that the digital scan does not pick up. I know on the Dish network 811 you could manually input channels to get signal strengths. Is the FOX station 4-1 ? If so, how do i manually put that in my RCA DTC-210 receiver? I hate hitting the scan channel button everytime I make an antenna adjustment! lol

Thanks so much.

You might want to check the DTC-210 threads in Hardware area, you'll probably find the answer you are looking for there.

Channel 4 is the actual channel WDKY-DT transmits on. Some receivers may not be able to provide input/output for/to the user concerning the "actual" channel being used(evidently, from a report I've heard up here, the D* branded H10 receiver can't), for example, in which case you wouldn't be able to punch in 4 on your remote to see what sort of "indications of signal" you are getting from it's meter for WDKY-DT, if the signal is below the level required for a lock, and you may not be able to tune to "4" to get to it in any case, even if there was a good signal present -- In which case your receiver would probably have to get a lock on the signal during a channel scan for it to "show up" to you at all-- probably on 56-1 if they are sending channel remapping info via PSIP, and/or if what they are(or arent) sending PSIP wise is "integrating" with D* EPG info properly ...

This sort of thing is supposed to make things "easier" and less confusing for viewers :rolleyes:

So when is the first show of HD on the Fox network from this point so we can see if WDKY is fully broadcasting? Any shows in HD this afternoon or tonight? I glanced over their website, but didn't find any useful information without having to go deeper.

Fox News Sunday was sent 16x9(it fills a 16x9 display, but it's actually SD widescreen upconverted to 720p) by the Dayton And Cincinnati Fox HD affiliates this morning(allways is) ... First thing HD tonight should be "Malcom in the Middle" at 7:30pm tonight, "Arrested Deveopment" at 8:30 I think is HD as well ... The simpsons+King of the Hill is 4x3(Family guy probably 4x3 too, but not sure) ... After that, I think "24" tomorrow night should be the next HD from Fox, then A.I. on tues night/etc/etc ...

well, I rescanned the HDTivo here in Georgetown to add WDKY and not so much as a blip on the signal meter. I am using an indoor Terk (VHF/UHF) combo antenna. I know that the signal wouldn't be perfect using this antenna but I'm shocked that i don't at least see some signal.

I can see a faint signal here in Clemens Heights (near MOW and Harrodsburg), but not anywhere close to enough to get a broken-up picture, let alone a lock. I'm using an indoor antenna which works well for KET/ABC/CBS. Hopefully a power boost is coming.

Ryan

I'm in Harrod's View (Harrodsburg/MOW). Indoor ears ring up a 16 on the meter. Are they low balling the power or will I have to go outside with the antenna?

Originally posted by mfenster
I'm in Harrod's View (Harrodsburg/MOW). Indoor ears ring up a 16 on the meter. Are they low balling the power or will I have to go outside with the antenna?

My guess is low power. I don't think they would go to all the trouble of building a new tower to serve Lexington and surrounding areas if it would require everyone to have an outdoor antenna.

Hopefully we will see a power boost before Sunday and we can all enjoy the HD Super Bowl :)

Plus keep in mind that they are at least at the broadcasting stage. It's great to see they have it up and going anyway before the February 4th deadline. I have been watching the boards on here for any good news, but this is excellent news. I cannot however get a signal, but seeing that they have it up and operational is a great sign. They have a week of tweaking before the big game. Kudos to WDKY!

Originally posted by BdoUK
My guess is low power. I don't think they would go to all the trouble of building a new tower to serve Lexington and surrounding areas if it would require everyone to have an outdoor antenna.

Hopefully we will see a power boost before Sunday and we can all enjoy the HD Super Bowl :)

According to their website, they say that most of the people in the viewing area will only need a set of "rabbit ears" to view the programming. I would say this is a testing phase and will jump up the power as they get everything fully operational.

Originally posted by Brinkley
According to their website, they say that most of the people in the viewing area will only need a set of "rabbit ears" to view the programming. I would say this is a testing phase and will jump up the power as they get everything fully operational.

I sure hope you're right. Maybe William could chime in here as to what would be common procedure for a brand new transmitter.

I had a homemade channel 4 folded dipole initially (outside on the mast) with a fluctuating signal reading but no lock. I put up the VHF section of my Winegard 8200p today and now I have a semi-watchable picture but it has continuous pixellation. This is roughly equivalent to the reception I was able to get before from their old digital transmitter.

I'm 65 miles from the Clays Ferry tower and the distance was I think 66 miles to their old site.

Originally posted by microbob
I'm located in Grant County KY just outside of Dry Ridge, and with the antenna pointed directly toward Lexington KY I'm getting a full signal in the normal range according to my on screen signal meter on my receiver.

How far are you from their Clays Ferry tower and what antenna are you using?

Hey guys,
I am a first time poster, but I wanted to weigh in on the WDKY DT launch. I am in Nicholasville and locked in at 68 -70% reception around 6:00 this evening. I am using a RCA Amplified VHF/HDTV/UHF/FM Antenna, ANT1250 that I got at Wal Mart. Hopefully everyone will get to enjoy the Super Bowl in HD next Sunday.

Was hoping to catch my first glimpse of Fox HD with Malcolm in the Middle (coming on as I type this), but there seems to be some issues. I'm getting 90-100% signal, but I see rare and random picture garble right now. I'm sure they are testing or having issues that they are working out.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Was hoping to catch my first glimpse of Fox HD with Malcolm in the Middle (coming on as I type this), but there seems to be some issues. I'm getting 90-100% signal, but I see rare and random picture garble right now. I'm sure they are testing or having issues that they are working out.

The way I am looking at this is that at least we have something to talk about compared to NBC dragging their feet on getting their digital signal up and going. Hope fully this is a good sign to come!

Originally posted by blurredvision
Was hoping to catch my first glimpse of Fox HD with Malcolm in the Middle (coming on as I type this), but there seems to be some issues. I'm getting 90-100% signal, but I see rare and random picture garble right now. I'm sure they are testing or having issues that they are working out.


Same here. I'm getting picture freeze ups and superimposed pictures from the previous channel I was on. Signal coming in close to 100%.

At about 6:58pm, I was getting just enough from WDKY-DT(118 Miles - Az 178) about 30% on this receiver's signal quality meter --- to get a PSIP lock -- The receiver showed PSIP remapping to 56.1.

Now at 7:40pm -- This is a little odd ... I'm getting PSIP lock -- But, it is showing a "remap" to "4.3" instead of 56.1 ... The meter is going as high as 50% since just after 7:30, but haven't decoded a frame of video yet, 33% usually does it on this receiver(Zenith HDV420). Co-channel noise is farly high though, As I'm hearing WCMH 4(78 Miles Az. 70) Columbus audio carrier on NTSC tuner off the side of the antenna through WDKY-DT's 8VSB "snow" .....

Originally posted by nuts4scuba
Same here. I'm getting picture freeze ups and superimposed pictures from the previous channel I was on. Signal coming in close to 100%.

Yes folks, you too can now enjoy all of the "Splicer" bugs and issues that plagued me since the end of the "World Series." These are some of the exact symptoms I was talking about many pages ago ...

Originally posted by Nitewatchman
Now at 7:40pm -- This is a little odd ... I'm getting PSIP lock -- But, it is showing a "remap" to "4.3" instead of 56.1 ...

Yep my Tivo is showing: Freq 4, Chan 4-3,

when it should say: Freq 4, Channel 56-1, WDKY

if all were well in PSIP/Splicer land

Re-scanned, and my receiver is now coming up with 4-1 instead of 56-1 as well. I was getting the superimposed images as well, but didn't know how to describe it, so I didn't say anything :). I also just figured it was a problem specific to me, as I'm not too up on all this stuff.

Messed with the cabling this afternoon and have a higher 36% - 44% signal, but only seeing a video frame from the last tuned channel (WKYT-DT). I was locking on at 28% this morning. Something changed at the tower.

I'm using a Channel Master Crossfire CM 3678 roof mounted on a rotor. I'm guessing I'm about 54 miles north of Clays Ferry. According to their new antenna map Dry Ridge KY would be able to pick the new tower reliably.

OK folks, so I know everyone received a circular in the mail saying that the superbowl would be broadcast in HD here in Lexington on FOX...

Big question, will Insight pick up the Lexington Fox HD in time for the Super Bowl? Or will us Insight people miss out... I do not have a OTA tuner...and I live off of Leestown Road... My TV is a nice Panasonic 45lc12 which of course, does not have a built in Tuner...

I am getting the random pixelated effect this evening as well. I was watching some Clint Eastwood/Kevin Costner movie earlier today with only minor drop outs. Thing is, I was using my single bowtie roof mounted UHF antenna without amplification. From everything I have read, I thought for sure that would not work, and that I would have to get a VHF antenna. I'm thinking I might be able to get enough signal to prevent the dropouts if I install a pre-amp (CM7777) on my existing UHF antenna.

I live about 10 miles north of Paris (about 40 miles or so from tower).

Currently I'm registering what appears to be a higher signal strength (still fluctuates some), it maps to 4-3 instead of 56-1 and the intermittent picture looks like jibberish, i.e. no recognizable figures, objects, etc.

Originally posted by pbracken
From everything I have read, I thought for sure that would not work, and that I would have to get a VHF antenna. I'm thinking I might be able to get enough signal to prevent the dropouts if I install a pre-amp (CM7777) on my existing UHF antenna.

I live about 10 miles north of Paris (about 40 miles or so from tower).

VHF frequencies attenuate very little along the cable run. It's unlikely a preamp will change anything. I'd wait though. It's not certain if they've even been at full power, yet. You may still be O.K.

Well, I have the LG 3501 HD OTA tuner with a RadioShack VHF/UHF rabbit ear & loop antenna and I can reliably get 27 & 36. I can see a signal on Fox channel 4.1, but it bounces from about 5 to 85 signal strength and never locks in.

It seems like the UHF loop is what pulls the HD signal, moving that makes the biggest difference. I cant see a signal difference at all with the rabbit ears.

Any easy & quick suggestions for pulling Fox better?

It's 9:40pm and WDKY just came back on the air. The Simpsons in SD are on. Picture looks great, and no dropouts.

Originally posted by NickR
Well, I have the LG 3501 HD OTA tuner with a RadioShack VHF/UHF rabbit ear & loop antenna and I can reliably get 27 & 36. I can see a signal on Fox channel 4.1, but it bounces from about 5 to 85 signal strength and never locks in.

It seems like the UHF loop is what pulls the HD signal, moving that makes the biggest difference. I cant see a signal difference at all with the rabbit ears.

Any easy & quick suggestions for pulling Fox better?

Look here for tips on mazimizing performance with rabbit ears:
http://www.kyes.com/antenna/rabbitear.html

Originally posted by phenderson
OK folks, so I know everyone received a circular in the mail saying that the superbowl would be broadcast in HD here in Lexington on FOX...

Big question, will Insight pick up the Lexington Fox HD in time for the Super Bowl? Or will us Insight people miss out... I do not have a OTA tuner...and I live off of Leestown Road... My TV is a nice Panasonic 45lc12 which of course, does not have a built in Tuner...

Well with our local Fox affiliate being owned by Sinclair, I wouldn't hold my breath. It seems Sinclair is trying to get more money out of the cable companies to carry their HD feed. I hope I am wrong, but I am not expecting it to show up before Super Bowl Sunday :(

WDKY's picture is back, but still a weak, pixellating signal for me down here.

Finally got it ... Pretty much perfect reception of WDKY-DT here at 10:04~10:12pm. 47~53 signal quality readings on DTC-100( Currently using the other recevier to record something from another station).

They've been seemingly putting in a signal above what "usually" produces good decoding since about 7:30. Checked it a few times between 7:30+10pm, nothing would decode, then next time I checked at 10:04pm, Perfect video during local news.

It's currently showing up as 4-3.

So, looks like maybe they've got a few bugs to work out, perhaps during Fox programming via the splicer/etc, but it certianly looks like they are putting out a nice strong signal from up here! I am getting a very slight bit of short range tropo enhancement, with Central KY UHF analogs in a bit better than is the case under "dead band" conditions, but they are still weak with some occasional fading(WDKY 56 I assume from the old site is best NTSC signal from Central KY presently, oddly enough ) ... Nary a hint of the other Central KY digitals at this point ...

Update 11:20pm -- They're now remapping to 56.1 on Zenith HDV420 receiver ... Solid 75~80% on it's signal quality meter. Perfect reception, not a hint of screen data loss/pixelization/etc ...Looks good! Just barely getting a hint Of DTV signal on 13(2~5% on meter), but not sure if it's from WKYT-DT, or from WSYX-DT 13 Columbus off the side ... I never can tell with antenna aimed South until WKYT-DT locks ...

Not sure at this point whether to log WDKY-DT via Tropo, or as a "semi-local", but I do expect I'll see them quite often for as long as they stay on 4 with a decent amount of power ...

Originally posted by BdoUK
Ben,

You aren't far from me. What type of indoor antenna are you using? I'm using some cheap Wal-Mart amplified one, but I am having no luck getting Fox off Pasadena Dr.

It's a tabletop Emerson circular-type UHF/VHF antenna I bought in 1996. I removed the 'ears' and recently installed 2 longer ones to reach the required 83" for channel 4.

I bought a Channelmaster 3044 at Lowes today in hope I would get a better signal, but it's actually performing equally as well to the cheapo MCM Electronics amp I had been using for years. The only advantage is that now I can split the antenna feed with the Channel Master and not degrade the signal going to my HDTV card (the TiVo standalone downstairs will be happy). The MCM Electronics amp only had one output port and I was using a 75ohm Y-splitter.

I tried all over the attic and so far the best place for me is on the eastern side of it. The ears are pointed straight out (not "V") with one pointing about 30 degrees east from true north and the other 'ear' pointed exact opposite at 210 degrees from true north towards the south. Also the 'ears' have to be right up against the wood. It's at maximum height using a stack of boxes that isn't quite stable.

I'm locked in from 36-40% signal right now, but during primetime I couldn't get a lock at all, so I missed seeing Malcolm and Arrested Development in HD. Bummer. The upconverted standard def 10pm news looks clean though.

Originally posted by BenCJedi
It's a tabletop Emerson circular-type UHF/VHF antenna I bought in 1996. I removed the 'ears' and recently installed 2 longer ones to reach the required 83" for channel 4.

I bought a Channelmaster 3044 at Lowes today in hope I would get a better signal, but it's actually performing equally as well to the cheapo MCM Electronics amp I had been using for years. The only advantage is that now I can split the antenna feed with the Channel Master and not degrade the signal going to my HDTV card (the TiVo standalone downstairs will be happy). The MCM Electronics amp only had one output port and I was using a 75ohm Y-splitter.

I tried all over the attic and so far the best place for me is on the eastern side of it. The ears are pointed straight out (not "V") with one pointing about 30 degrees east from true north and the other 'ear' pointed exact opposite at 210 degrees from true north towards the south. Also the 'ears' have to be right up against the wood. It's at maximum height using a stack of boxes that isn't quite stable.

I'm locked in from 36-40% signal right now, but during primetime I couldn't get a lock at all, so I missed seeing Malcolm and Arrested Development in HD. Bummer. The upconverted standard def 10pm news looks clean though.

Ben,

Hopefully as the week goes along we won't have to jump through so many hoops to pull the signal in! Thanks for the information.

Originally posted by mfenster
I'm in Harrod's View (Harrodsburg/MOW). Indoor ears ring up a 16 on the meter. Are they low balling the power or will I have to go outside with the antenna?
mfenster, I'm in Harrod's View as well... PM me if you want to see my setup. I'm receiving WDKY-DT with great signal level at this location with an indoor attic antenna. I've pulled my CM-7777 pre-amp out of the circuit at the moment, and the signal level is great!

Originally posted by BdoUK
Ben,

Hopefully as the week goes along we won't have to jump through so many hoops to pull the signal in! Thanks for the information.

Here's pictures of the orientation and antenna I was describing:

http://home.insightbb.com/~refuel/pics/HDTV/Antenna_01.jpg http://home.insightbb.com/~refuel/pics/HDTV/Antenna_02.jpg

The roof is sloped.

Finding that sweet spot was ALOT of trial and error. I hope WDKY increases power. I'd feel a little more comfortable with higher signal. I can't believe how clear the standard def stuff looks. WKYT and WTVQ look blurry in comparison. I wonder is this has to do with WDKY's local equipment at native 720X480?

Originally posted by BenCJedi
It's a tabletop Emerson circular-type UHF/VHF antenna I bought in 1996. I removed the 'ears' and recently installed 2 longer ones to reach the required 83" for channel 4.

I bought a Channelmaster 3044 at Lowes today in hope I would get a better signal, but it's actually performing equally as well to the cheapo MCM Electronics amp I had been using for years. The only advantage is that now I can split the antenna feed with the Channel Master and not degrade the signal going to my HDTV card (the TiVo standalone downstairs will be happy). The MCM Electronics amp only had one output port and I was using a 75ohm Y-splitter.

I tried all over the attic and so far the best place for me is on the eastern side of it. The ears are pointed straight out (not "V") with one pointing about 30 degrees east from true north and the other 'ear' pointed exact opposite at 210 degrees from true north towards the south. Also the 'ears' have to be right up against the wood. It's at maximum height using a stack of boxes that isn't quite stable.

I'm locked in from 36-40% signal right now, but during primetime I couldn't get a lock at all, so I missed seeing Malcolm and Arrested Development in HD. Bummer. The upconverted standard def 10pm news looks clean though.

The MCM was made by Channel Master and rebranded for MCM. As for your channel 4 problem. Try and make yourself a Dipole from 300 ohm twin lead. I did so for cahnnel 7 here and it works great at 40 + miles. See links on how to and length. This can be mounted on the eave of the house or in the attic. Good Luck.

http://www.wfu.edu/~matthews/misc/dipole.html

http://www.kyes.com/antenna/rabbitear.html

The trouble we saw during primetime was due to splicer/setup issues at WDKY, not your signal reception. The Pixelation, freezeframe, no video symptoms (etc) occured on a regular basis from the day after game 4 of the World Series to the day the "old" digital site was turned off.

The usual result was that either the network HD feed (Splice to Network) was hosed or the local upconverted feed (Splice to Local) was hosed.

Please let WDKY know what you were seeing (or not seeing) tonight, as I'm not sure they believed me when I tried to tell them that something was wrong ... and at this point I'm tired of trying ;) :D

PS: Frankly I had hoped that they would have worked out the problem during the intermission, but it appears not.

Originally posted by jimc705
The MCM was made by Channel Master and rebranded for MCM. As for your channel 4 problem. Try and make yourself a Dipole from 300 ohm twin lead. I did so for cahnnel 7 here and it works great at 40 + miles. See links on how to and length. This can be mounted on the eave of the house or in the attic. Good Luck.

http://www.wfu.edu/~matthews/misc/dipole.html

http://www.kyes.com/antenna/rabbitear.html

Thanks for the tips. I actually replaced the 'ears' on my tabletop antenna that you see in the picture (one side was broken) with two 41.5" dipoles. This made a very big difference over the factory 'ears'. I'll have to try some twinlead to see if I get better results. WDKY will probably still be testing throughout the week, so hopefully things only improve.

The MCM Electronics amp.. I was told was noisier than the Channel Master. Here's the exact one I bought and have used since around 1999:
http://mcm.newark.com/NewarkWebCommerce/mcm/en_US/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=33-290&N=4

Anyone have a phone number handy for WDKY to let them know about the primetime issues we had seen tonight? It was driving me nuts because I know I had a suitable signal earlier in the day and then at primetime.. *poof* spot signal, no lock, etc.

I think it is important that we let WDKY know this, so they won't continue to think that HDTVCHallenged is crazy. :)

It just occurred to me that WDKY doesn't have a subchannel. No wonder the picture quality is better.. it's the full 19Mbps, right?

WDKY

(859) 269-5656

Press 3 to leave message in general mailbox.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
Yep ... with the exception of WKYT, I get a better signal from WAVE and WLKY @ 76mi ( with an outdoor antenna) than I do from all of the Lex/Rich stations @ 30ish mi (with attic antennas.)

You would get a better signal on the outside antennas as the attic antennas are affected by roof materials.


Speaking of that, any chance that they are just running under temporary testing authority? I'm certainly no legal expert, but on the surface, I don't see any reason why the analog and digital *have* to be operated from the same location ... afterall, the CP's/Licences for analog/digital are seperate documents.

No they are not,,, the DTV is tied to the analog license.. ( you can't seperate the two they are two stations covered by the one license.