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mx6bfast
03-23-03, 06:16 PM
I'm getting the HD feed on 3-1. does anyone else see some pixelation when the players are moving around? It'll do it for a half a second and then adjust.

I wish CBS would fix their sound to where you can hear the announcers more than the crowd. I have to turn my reciever to 40, counting down from 100 so I cna understand what they are saying.

wildcardseven
03-23-03, 07:44 PM
I'm getting WREG on 28.1 and 28.2 with my Sony SAT-HD100 with no pixelation. I am 80+ miles south east of Memphis near the city of Tupelo. I just upgraded my antenna yesterday. I am using a channel master 4228 8-Bay bowtie with a 7775 preamp with a rotor. Reception is much more reliable especially at night with this distance. I picked up about twelve points on my signal meter for WMAV in oxford over my previous UHF/VHF combo antenna. I've got to brag about this 4228 antenna. Money well spent!

dirk1843
03-23-03, 09:07 PM
Guys,

I dont think that CBS is showing the game in HD, as the PQ is not up to usual standard and it is a 4:3 ratio.

There is also a post in the HD programing area that metions for the duration of the war networks are discontinuin HD.

Alot of the new posters in this area have yet to see much OTA HD, and as you will see on one of my earlier posts, when you see HD, you will know it!! OTA is some of the finest PQ out there right now.............

mx6bfast
03-23-03, 09:47 PM
Dirk,
The games from Birmingham, Louisville/Butler and Teaxs/Purdue came in widescreen. But when the network cut to other games and during commercials there were black bars on the side. I thought those 2 games were HD. Was I wrong? I switched over to HDNet and the pic looks just as good.
I don't know if some of the other recievers actually show what format it is in, my E86 doesnt.

BostonT
03-24-03, 07:39 PM
I called Time Warner today to ask them about ESPN-HD, they knew exactly what I was talking about and said that they had no announcements right now but if they were going to roll anything out we'd see special promotions for it.

HDTV_Duffus
03-24-03, 08:37 PM
Hey guys. You're right, only the B'ham games were in HD, you could get them OTA on CBS or HDNET. I did see some "morphing" mainly in the players body when they cut to a close up and the player was moving. Otherwise incredible!

As best I can read, CBS will broadcast only one site in HD.

dirk1843
03-25-03, 08:04 AM
I didnt see the games that you metioned were in widescreen, not a big b-ball fan, so I would only switch over for a few minutes, looking for HD. I guess I didnt switch at the right time to see these, as if the were in widescreen problably HD.

I will be glad when the networks go back to their regualr HD schedule!!

radarme
03-25-03, 11:01 AM
Has anyone with Time Warner contacts asked about when we may start seeing the local channels in HD on cable?

BostonT
03-25-03, 11:38 AM
I have, they said the hardware was all setup and the fiber was run, but they need to work out the negotiations. I'm just hoping it's not an ESPN-HD vs Comcast type deal.

HDTV_Duffus
03-25-03, 09:36 PM
Anyone out there had there set calibrated? Dave Levy is touring the southeast and I'm thinking about taking the plung. Any advice?

hdtvluvr
03-25-03, 10:01 PM
Craig Miller (The Mitsubishi guru) will be here in April. You can contact him at:
mghometheater@earthlink.net. He only works on Mits from what I understand.

Dave Levy helped me (at another website) when I first got my Mits. He had originally planned on coming to Memphis back in Nov. but had to change plans. He told me that he wasn't sure when he could make it and that if someone else was going to be in the area he would understand if I scheduled a calibration with them. He seemed very knowledgeable and has helped many others at the other HT website.

I'm not sure exactly what Dave does and charges. However, here is an email I received from Craig:

Here is the information on what my Mits calibrations and tweaks include and the price.

A full scale Mits calibration takes approximately 10-14 hours and includes the following:

1. First Inspection. Using various Avia and HD Generator test patterns I inspect the screens, CRTs and other items on your set. There is no sense in calibrating it if you are going to need any repair work. Also at this time we look at Component 480i as verses S-Video if you have an interlaced DVD player. Since Component 480i has a number of differences that effect other calibrations and tweaks we need to agree on which hook up you will be using. At this time we also talk about the protective screen and remove it if you would like. At this point I'll have a good idea on how much improvement you'll see from the calibration. 98% of the sets see a very nice improvement in image clarity, color, geometry and convergence. If I feel that you will not see that much improvement I'll let you know so you can decide if you want to go forward with a full up calibration or if you would be better off just correcting a few items and save some $$.

2. Next we open it up and continue the inspection: Mirror condition, Lenses, and check for CRT coolant leaks. If all of that looks good, the lenses are removed and the actual CRTs, coolant and coolant lenses are inspected for any anomalies.

3. If everything passes we move on to cleaning. Cleaning is a very important step in the calibration. Even though these are relatively "new" sets, they all need a very good cleaning. This really helps improve the picture clarity.

4. Clean the Mirror. This usually take 3 to 4 passes to get the factory "film", smudges and finger prints off. The 73" set with the Mylar mirror should never be cleaned only dusted lightly with air.

5. Give the lens assemblies a careful but very good cleaning. We also remove that nasty tape at this time and replace it with new tape after focus is complete.

6. The coolant lenses are cleaned next. These coolant lenses or covers are very concave and collect a lot of dirt and bug parts at the factory.

7. And then the Screen Assembly is cleaned. It is amazing how dirty many of the fresnel lenses are (inside back of the screen). This shows up as dark streaks in a 100 IRE (White) Field.

8. Then I hook up my black box (I2C Interface) and download and archive all of the current User menu and Service menu settings for your set.

9. G2 Voltage (Screen VRs) is next. I set these at factory specification +- .1 volt. This determines the base level for all of the following adjustments and it may improve CRT life. This also helps the AKB (Auto Cathode Balance) work properly which helps hold the grayscale adjustment as the CRTs age. These are set incorrectly on just about every Mits. A little too high or low isn't that bad it's the spread between the three CRTs, upwards of 15 volts from the factory, that needs to be corrected to get the best grayscale and AKB working properly. The factory spec calls out for +- 1 volt, not the 5-15 volts that I regularly see. Also if G2 is set to high or low it hurts horizontal resolution and softens the picture a little.

10. Electrostatic and Manual focus, a very necessary and key element to a super image. Some models of the newer Mits have astigmatism correction (Quad Field Focus), so this will also be checked and adjusted to allow for optimum focus. 99.9% of the new sets with Quad Field Focus have been set wrong from the factory and this hurts corner and edge focus. I check and re-check each CRT multiple times to make sure they are at the best possible focus across the entire screen.

11. Lots of Geometry work to get the Green Grid and Overscan set properly. This is done for both SD and HD using Mylar grid overlays, actual external grid images and special scrolling test patterns to cross check horizontal and vertical linearity. Since I don't just eyeball geometry, this adds a lot of time to the calibrations. I have found that it's best to zero out the Mits factory settings on every RPTV and then set magnetic centering and yoke rotation for green and then do the geometry from the ground up. This isn't just for correcting speed bumps and uneven geometry, that can easily be done by eye. This really improves convergence which improves picture clarity, otherwise I wouldn't spend this much time, and your $$ on this step and the next step.

12. Service Level Convergence for both SD and HD. I zero out SD and HD Fine Red and Blue, set Coarse Red and Blue to starting default values, check and set their magnetic centering and yoke rotation and then re-do convergence from the ground up. This is the only way to do convergence, the Mits factory settings leave a lot to be desired and many times make it impossible to get a real good convergence across the entire screen. The Mits Red and Blue grids are pretty good but they are not exact so I use grid "images" from Avia and the HD generator to converge with. This assures that your actual image will be properly converged. Convergence is done with binoculars so that it is fully optimized from "Your Viewing Position". This eliminates the Parallax Convergence Errors that occur when convergence is done up close to the screen. Once again, I take a lot of extra care here. This is a very important step in getting the best clarity from your Home Theater..

13. Check and adjust edge enhancement through the black box for NTSC, 480p and HD modes. This removes some more of the Mits Showroom add-ons and gets us back to the true Home Theater look.

14. Check and adjust SVM and Sharpness for NTSC, 480p and HD modes.

15. Just about everything up to this point is done to improve clarity, everything that follows is to improve color.

16. Properly set the color decoder for NTSC, 480p and HD modes to remove "Red Push" on ALL inputs. No more attenuators. Besides correcting Red Saturation this also corrects Red Hue, Green Saturation and Green Hue so this also fixes the HD 1080i color decoder problems.

17. At this time the user controls will be centered except for Contrast and Brightness. These settings will be determined during grayscale calibration.

18. Check and adjust Gamma for NTSC, 480p and HD modes.

19. Set 480p grayscale, Contrast and Brightness and make them as linear as possible across the entire IRE range. And then check them against other test patterns and on actual images. Along with everything else, this is another step that I put extra work and care into for the best possible color reproduction from 0 IRE to 100 IRE

20. Set HD 1080i Grayscale.

21. And set grayscale for the NTSC inputs (Coax, Composite, S-Video, Component 480i). The Mits allows High Color Temp grayscale to be set independently for each of the three main display modes (NTSC, 480p and HD) which is very nice since they need to be set separately. The grayscale does vary between NTSC, 480p and HD.

22. Save all of the newly calibrated and tweak settings through the black box.

23. Put it all back together, wipe it all down to get my finger prints off, and then view some DVD and HD scenes to make sure you are truly 100% happy.

I use a Colorimeter for setting all of the grayscale modes/inputs and an HD Generator for setting High Definition Overscan, Geometry, SVM, Sharpness, Color Decoder and Grayscale settings.

Since it takes approximately 10-14 hours to do all of this I like to start the calibration around 9:00 or 10:00 A.M. (depending on sunset) so I can complete it before Midnight rolls around.

To do all of the above tweaks and calibrations I have a flat fee of $750. No surprises, no extra charges and no added fees per input, mode or signal type. Just one all inclusive fee.

Duvetyne ......... improves the blacks and shadow detail it also improves color saturation. To install Duve adds about 1.5 - 2 hours to the job. It would be great if you could do this prior to calibration, it's really not very hard to do, just time consuming. If you are nervous about doing it We would be happy to add it to the calibration. You buy the Duve and let's say $100 for us to install it. But, there are a number of posts here on the SPot that can help you with this so you can save a few $ here. If we install the Duve, it is done right after inspection and before the cleaning starts.

It is absolutely best if you let your set break in for approx. 3 months before calibrating it. The phosphors are a little hot out of the box and 3 months lets them mellow out a little. 3 months also gives the other electronics in the set a good chance to break in to make sure that nothing is going to fail. The CRTs change a lot in the first 300-400 hours so giving them a little time to break-in will definitely help hold your calibration longer.

I have spent thousands of hours analyzing the Mits HD sets and I believe these tweaks and calibrations are the base requirements to get the most from your set.

It makes no sense to have your grayscale calibrated if you don't have the color decoder corrected. It is almost useless to do electrostatic focus without doing manual focus and there's no reason to do focus if you are not going to thoroughly clean ALL of the optics. Edge Enhancement impacts SVM and Sharpness. Gamma impacts Grayscale, Contrast and Brightness. Geometry impacts convergence. Convergence has a major impact on the final image, etc. etc. So, IMHO there is only one way to do a Mits HDTV 100% right. To me, it's not just another RPTV, it's your "Home Theater".

If you have any questions please contact us at (909) 519-2090 cell.
I don't think that anyone else in the calibration business is as thorough as this at anywhere near this cost. Most other calibrators just do grayscale and maybe a quick touch up of geometry/convergence (at extra costs of course). Also we do not charge travel fees.

Thanks !

Craig and Sue Miller

mx6bfast
03-26-03, 12:23 AM
I know that NBC said they would stop broadcasting in HD. So is Leno is regular 480? If it is, it looks 100% better and cleaner than Directv.

Also, is there someone we can email at Fox as to why they aren't broadcasting digitally?

dirk1843
03-26-03, 08:08 AM
whbq-DavidBrant@FOX.COM

Please help with my email campaign to Fox!!

HDTV_Duffus
03-26-03, 11:33 PM
Rick, Thanks for the info. I have a Tosh so I don't think Craig can help me.

From the email I received from Dave Levy, he is planning a tour thru the area in April. His fees look reasonable and the input I've been able to get on him looks good. I think I'll take the plunge....still a little uncomfortable because of the cost thougth.

radu
03-29-03, 12:46 AM
how was everyone's picture on the Mich-MD game on CBS tonight (Friday)? it was definitely widescreen, and a lot better than SD, but to me it did not look right. Just not good enough compared to previous CBS hd stuff (haven't had a receiver for a couple of monhts, so the last thing I saw was a while ago)... No crispness, no "wow, this is amazing."

As of yesterday, whoever was next in line to pick up the phone at TWC said they hadn't heard anything about ESPNHD... Anyone heard anything?

Thanks,
Radu

BostonT
03-29-03, 10:07 AM
It looked fine to me, but I think I'm losing the HD wow factor. I may return my receiver to pay for car insurance and wait until football season to get another one. With NBC off air and the distinct lack of over the air programming, I just don't see the 151 as a good investment. I'll probably pick up a Hughes E86 or maybe by then TWC will have more HD.

BostonT
03-30-03, 11:12 PM
Anyone else not able to pick up nbc the past couple days? My samsung shows that I'm getting a signal on the signal meter, but the screen still says no signal. On wednesday I was able to get nbc perfectly for hours.

mx6bfast
03-30-03, 11:53 PM
I am experiencing the same thing also. I was gonna post tommorrow if I didn't get a picture. Don't know what's up.

dirk1843
04-02-03, 08:08 AM
Is anyone else worried and/or disappointed with multicasting out of Memphis??

To my untrained eye, CBS look much less sharp, even with SD programs since they have been up on 28-2.

ABC I really cant tell much difference in, but they may have to do with my lack of time spent watching ABC-HD, or the 720p-1080i conversion in my E86.

I hope this isnt a sign of things to come, as far I have seen nothing but a news loop on 28-2, and just mirror image of 25-1 on 25-2.

BostonT
04-02-03, 08:58 AM
afaik cbs stopped 28-2, I haven't seen it in several days. The last 2 days were the last straw for me, I was trying to watch some NBC shows and I could get a perect signal for 2 minutes then it would glitch up and disappear then come back for 2 minutes, then glitch up and come back in 4 minutes etc. I couldn't even watch a few shows without wanting to throw something out the window. Last night I was trying to watch leno to catch rob zombie (whose performance was awful I might add) and I was getting the same crap. This receiver and ss are going back to best buy this weekend, it's too much effort for too little gain. Maybe by the time football starts I can get locals through twc, or maybe I'll reconsider the whole hd ota thing. I'm very disappointed at what the Memphis stations have to offer right now.

DanielD
04-02-03, 11:48 AM
About the only thing that will help you guys with a freezing up picture is an outdoor antenna with a rotator. If you go that route, you'll probably be ok. I never thought an indoor antenna will work well with HD. Time Warner needs to get off their ass and start delivering the HD channels to their customers too.

D

mx6bfast
04-02-03, 01:47 PM
I tried to do a search on Monday night and lost the 28-1 and 2 channels. After more searching I still can't get them back. When I put in 28-1 it goes to 3-1.

About ABC, I know Miracles Monday night was in 720, but it didn't look near as good as the Oscars. But the other shows on ABC, when I'm home, don't look like they are in HD at all. I've even started watching Reba but it looks the same as it does on DirecTV.

Has anyone noticed that the sound goes in lower on the digital channels? Is it supposed to be this way?

DanielD
04-02-03, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by mx6bfast
About ABC, I know Miracles Monday night was in 720, but it didn't look near as good as the Oscars.

Has anyone noticed that the sound goes in lower on the digital channels? Is it supposed to be this way?

In regards to the Oscar comment, live with digital cameras is crisper and sharper looking than anything else. I think some shows are fuzzy because the producer wants them that way.

You see live shots then move to film the live always smokes the film/tape...

I've too have always noticed the sound is lower on digital channels.

rlj5242
04-02-03, 06:33 PM
Has anyone noticed that the sound goes in lower on the digital channels? Is it supposed to be this way? It's Dolby Digital so it is around 10db lower. This gives it more headroom for explosions, etc. I notice the same thing when I switch from a DD show on Starz to a non DD show on DirecTV.

-Robert

dirk1843
04-03-03, 01:28 PM
MX,

28-1 is 3-1.........this has to do with "virtual channels", the actual channel, and the channel remapping in the STB. I dont know for sure if the channel remapping for the virtual channels is supplied by the broadcaster or is coming through D* for now. When everything works like it should, the broadcasters transmit the channel remapping info along with program guide data.

Right now the 2 stiations that are multicasting ABC and CBS, the -2 sub channels have no remap info, so they dont go back to 24-2 or 3-2, although they are the same thing.

Yes the sound of the ATSC channels will be lower, this is due to the DD compression.

HD Video is the alsolute best in PQ right now. That is why live shots of the oscars for examlpe look so good. Another example is HDNet, which is mainly shot on HD Video.

While film based sources look good when telecined to HD, they often carry the "graininess" of the original film stock. Most movies are on film.

Although I dont know this pertains to ATSC, but NTSC PQ was much better with a live feed than a taped one. I dont know if this will affect HD, because HD video is capable of 1920x1080p, I dont know if any thing right now will surpass that.

radu
04-05-03, 04:12 PM
looks to me like TWC channel 803 has already been allocated to WREG-DT. Also channel 800 says 'TWC and WREG invite you to watch the NCAA Men's BBall Tourney in HD Sat 5 and 7:30 PM, Monday 8PM.'

I just started punching in 800 channels... Who knows what I will come upon next...

We will see. It's Sat, April 5, 3:11 PM now. 803 is up and running in SD. We will see if they will show the final four and final on 800 or 803. Probably 800...

Happy HD-ing,
Radu

radarme
04-06-03, 04:01 PM
Well did they?

mx6bfast
04-06-03, 04:06 PM
Did anyone else hear any popping noises during the game last night? Even in the commericals. The picture last night looked better than the other HD games. The game flow didn't produce much pixelation.

Who at WREG could we contact to see if they can get that fixed?

radu
04-06-03, 04:59 PM
yes, TWC had the games in HD on channel 803. Yes, sound probelms.

Did anyone else see the game(s) on TWC? I tried really hard to see a diff between OTA and cable. OTA (Zenith 420) seems a very, very little bit clearer, but maybe I was wanting to make myself believe that, in order to keep the Zenith for the NBA finals, and next season's Monday Night Football, and so on (as far as I know, besides WREG-DT, nothing local HD is even close to being carried by TWC...).

Radu

radarme
04-06-03, 05:08 PM
I'm getting giddy! If tonight's lineup shows up on 803, I'll be a happy camper. That likely means it's there to stay... also means we'll get the Masters on TWC. :)

radarme
04-06-03, 08:18 PM
Doh! My HD cable box has been disabled. Can anyone tell me if channel 803 is running tonight's CBS lineup in HD? 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' is supposed to be on now... thanks

jbzngowest
04-06-03, 09:03 PM
Yes, so far Greek, Becker and 9 Yards are broadcast in HD. There were too many dropouts to enjoy the full effect. The picture was great when it wasn't messed up.

SThomp
04-07-03, 12:05 PM
I have a question for memphis area OTA HD viewers. I have a close friend that is ready to make the jump to HD, starting from scratch. He's in mid-Collierville. Are there any HD viewers on the forum from Collierville or East Germantown? Is OTA HD reception acceptable there, and if so, with what antenna set up. Does a standard 4228 on a rotator do the job? Thanks
ST

rlj5242
04-07-03, 04:05 PM
A 4228 would be overkill for Collierville. I'm about 10 to 15 miles further away from the antenna farm and get decent reception (a few drop-outs) with a Radio Shack DBT sitting on my TV.

-Robert

radarme
04-08-03, 12:03 AM
Wow.... nice picture on 803 tonight. Audio was in sync as well. I'm very happy and hope it continues...

omarc
04-08-03, 10:27 AM
Glad to see TWC finally adding another channel also....
picture quality of the game was better for me on t-151.

mx6bfast
04-08-03, 01:10 PM
I've been reading on another post that some local affiliates aren't going to carry the HD broadcast on CBS as well as on USA. Does anyone know if CBS will also carry coverage in addition to the USA feed?

Anyone at CBS we can contact about this?

rjhseven
04-08-03, 01:29 PM
i have two hd receivers: Sony HD200 maps CBS on 3-1 but says no signal;
RCA DTC 100 maps CBS on 28-1 but weak signal. I am confused.

mx6bfast
04-08-03, 01:55 PM
They are both CBS, WREG. WREG is channel 3, but the digital channel is 28. If you are trying to get a good signal, wait until after 7 to see what kind of signals you get. Thats when the prime time shows are on and pretty all the digital feeds are being sent, except FOX of course. During the week, not too much is broadcast digitally during the day.
On my E86, if I type in 28-1, it defaults me to 3-1.

DanielD
04-08-03, 08:53 PM
Man, tonight is the first night I sat down and watched an HD broadcast while the subchannel is running. JAG's picture quality sucks. They're taking a beautiful 1080i signal and downrezzing it to what looks like 480p. If we don't start raising cain about this now I guess we'll just need to get used to it....

I'll be sending them an email this evening.

mx6bfast
04-08-03, 09:20 PM
Does anyone have a list of people to email for questions for each station?

wildcardseven
04-08-03, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by SThomp
I have a question for memphis area OTA HD viewers. I have a close friend that is ready to make the jump to HD, starting from scratch. He's in mid-Collierville. Are there any HD viewers on the forum from Collierville or East Germantown? Is OTA HD reception acceptable there, and if so, with what antenna set up. Does a standard 4228 on a rotator do the job? Thanks
ST A 4228 does an excellent job 30+ miles from the transmitter. You might use one at lesser distance by installing an adjustable attentuator.

SThomp
04-08-03, 10:07 PM
Thanks rlj5242 and wc7...my 4228 works great in Lakeland (in the attic on a rotator) without any over saturation. I'd rather have one of those and use an attenuator if necessary, rather than not gather enough signal. Seems Collierville offers no particular reception problems.
st

mx6bfast
04-09-03, 09:55 PM
Does anyone know if WREG is going to air the Masters in HD Thurs & Fri???

SThomp
04-09-03, 10:32 PM
D** satellite says it will be on April 10 & 11, from 4:00 p.m. - 6:30 p.m. (ET) on channel 198. Can't find any info about WREG programming.
ST

mx6bfast
04-09-03, 10:48 PM
CBS is showing the Masters from their HD feed, separate to their normal daily programming. Its up to the local CBS stations to decide whether to pick up the feed or not. This is in addition to the USA showing and normal programs on WREG. So there could be the normal daily shows on 3 but then the Masters on 3-1.

radarme
04-10-03, 12:10 AM
Channel 801 on TWC (USA-HD) will carry the Thursday & Friday rounds of The Masters. Channel 803 (CBS-HD) will carry the Saturday and Sunday rounds.

mx6bfast
04-10-03, 12:52 AM
More specifically, Directv

radarme
04-10-03, 02:04 AM
Yes. Channel 198...

See this thread for more info.... (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=245167)

mx6bfast
04-10-03, 02:07 AM
This is my question...

Does anyone know if WREG is going to air the Masters in HD Thurs & Fri OTA???

SThomp
04-10-03, 11:00 AM
The answer from the folks at WREG is NO...no Master's Tournament coverage on April 10 & 11...not even on SD. They said that they didn't expect that to change, and certainly there would be no coverage on channel 28. ST

mx6bfast
04-10-03, 01:26 PM
Thanks alot. Of course it doesnt matter today as the Masters was rained out. For future reference, who did you contact over there?

SThomp
04-10-03, 03:15 PM
Not sure who it was, by name. I called the main number, 901.543.2333, and asked for someone in scheduling/programming. st

dandager
04-10-03, 10:35 PM
This is what I've learned:

Time Warner, WREG-TV and USA will carry The Masters golf tournament in High Definition (HD) this week. Telecast times are:

Thursday and Friday at 3:00
USA Network Channel 35, HD channel 801

Saturday at 2:30 and Sunday at 1:30
WREG-TV 3 (cable-ready channel 2)
WREG-HD channel 803

The standard welcome screen mentions The Masters on Channel 3 and USA, and it directs HD customers to tune to Channel 800 for more information. That's where we will tell them the day, time and channel the HD telecast is on.

ONLY HD CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE CHANNEL 801 AND 803. Standard digital customers will see an "unauthorized" screen. They must have an HDTV set and an HD converter from TWC to see HD. HD converters must be installed. They cannot be picked up at customer service centers.

jbzngowest
04-11-03, 03:21 PM
One quick PQ post for channel 801 at 2:20 pm on 4-11-03....Simply said, it's awesome!!!! I wonder if anyone is near Olive Branch that wants to compare it to their antenna feed?

HDTV_Duffus
04-17-03, 08:16 AM
Anyone having difficulty with WMC - again? I was getting ~80 signal with no audio or video last night. What gives?

radarme
04-18-03, 12:26 AM
I did not get CSI tonight on 803... They did flip it on for 'Without a trace". If they would just call me, I would write them some code to turn on the HDTV feed... Their monkey is just not cutting it.

SThomp
04-18-03, 12:56 PM
Maybe he needs more bananas?

dirk1843
04-18-03, 01:18 PM
I would say that they are down again.

They have more trouble than any other Memphis ATSC station.............

mx6bfast
04-19-03, 02:27 AM
Hey guys,
Can anyone explain to me how I can get a signal of 100, and then it drop down to the 40's, then back up, then 0. Is that something with my antenna, or is it with the station? I'm glad that 24 still broadcasts late for those who cant watch at prime time every night. It seemed to me tonight that the signals would be fine during the commercials, but then start messing up during the shows.

Any update on WMC?

HDTV_Duffus
04-19-03, 10:19 AM
I've had similar troubles with WMC, just not to the degree you listed. I routinely drop ~10-15 points at night ( several others have had the same issues).

I was able to get Leno last night, didn't check any of the other shows.

dirk1843
04-19-03, 01:45 PM
I would guess that it was a multi-path or atmospheric condition.........

What kind of antenna are you guys using?? I would also keep a mental diary of what the weather conditions are when you have problems.......

Another prob would be if the airport was between you and the antenna farm.

HDTV_Duffus
04-19-03, 08:11 PM
I'm using a RS Double bowtie with a RS preamp.

This was not interference from airport traffic. Interest that you say that, when the weather forces lower than normal air traffic I get a brief (probably 1-2 second) interference when the jet is directly over us.

mx6bfast
04-21-03, 01:45 PM
I'm using a Terk 35 antenna. I was having problems starting last week with 24 starting early last week, but Friday was worse. This was around midnight. Conditions were perfect outside. I checked it again last night, around 10 pm, and I was getting the same kind of response, but the signal strength was actually lower. I was getting locked 100 up until this past week.
I live in Bartlett, off Germantown 3 miles from the Wolfchase mall.

Where is the antenna farm? Is it by me?

mx6bfast
04-22-03, 12:05 AM
Ok I checked it out today. Around 6 I was constantly getting 100, with it dipping to 94 every now and then. About 6 times in 30 minutes the screen would hang. I would also lose audio, just getting some popping noises. At 11, getting a signal strength in the 50's, with it going to 0 every 30 seconds, and then right back.
Any ideas??

johnnyczme
04-30-03, 09:49 AM
Has anyone had trouble getting WMC-DT (5-1) the last couple of days? I get the ABC and CBS feeds strong.

HDTV_Duffus
04-30-03, 06:40 PM
It seems that WMC has been hit or miss lately. Some of the broadcasts have been listed as Letterbox in the guide and not broadcast on WMCDT, but I've gottem Leno each time I've checked. I watch very little WMC primetime, but I do check during commercials to see if its on. Someone that watches them regularly may have a better response.

dirk1843
05-05-03, 09:33 PM
I recently sent a round of emails to the Memphis tv stations regarding some issues with HD and DTV.................

Here is the answer from UPN about when they will start with true HD
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William,
Right now UPN is not broadcasting in High Def.
I don't when they will start. Thank you for watching.
Pamela Bridges
Program Director
UPN 30 WLMT
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Here is the answer from FOX about when they will go full power:
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There is no definite date at this time. We hope to start construction this summer.

Thanks,


David P. Brant
Chief Engineer
WHBQ-TV/DT Fox13
485 South Highland Street
Memphis, TN 38111
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I also sent one each to WREG, WPTY, and WMC regarding the use of sub-channels on 3 and 24, and the signal strength problems with 5.

So far, I have heard nothing from these, although channel 24 didnt use sub-channels last night during prime time.

If anyone is interested in the replies I get(if any) I will post them later.

mx6bfast
05-05-03, 10:45 PM
Good info. Please do post the other replies once you get them.
I do know that WPTY does not broadcast WB shows in HD. The answer I got was since they are broadcast earlier in the night, that there is no technology to be able to re-broadcast them in HD.
I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but UPN gets all audio but the screen flickers on and off. Anyone else getting this?
The only sub-channel I have gotten is 28-2. Other than that, which other ones are being used or are getting signals?

dirk1843
05-06-03, 08:07 AM
25-2 was in use.........may still be havent checked to day, was not Sunday night.

The technology is out there, but it is expensive. One that isnt so expensive, when you are talking about TV stations is W-Vhs. I would be willing to bet they have one or two of these decks laying around the staion.

I have never watched WB, although some of their shows sound interesting. What does WPTY do, just tape delay the WB primetime broadcast?? What time do they make the switch??

johnnyczme
05-06-03, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by wildcardseven
A 4228 does an excellent job 30+ miles from the transmitter. You might use one at lesser distance by installing an adjustable attentuator.
Where did you guys get your 4228 with the rotator? This is a Channel Master right? I live in Collierville.

Thanks,
JohnnyC

wildcardseven
05-06-03, 09:20 PM
I don't live near Collierville, so I don't know if there are any brick 'n' mortar stores around that may carry the 4228. I couldn't find any stores in North Mississippi that stock this antenna. I had to purchase mine online at warrenelectronics.com, the 4228 antenna cost me $47.51 and a 7775 UHF preamp cost $54.51. A Channel Master remote controlled rotor 9521A is priced at 69.95. This rotor has an electronic control so that you can key in degrees 000-360 or you can program the locations of each station by channel number. For example if you want to turn the antenna toward WPTY just push 2 4 on your remote and the rotator does the rest.

johnnyczme
05-06-03, 09:35 PM
Thanks for the info I did find warren electronics this afternoon and will get on with my order.
johnnyc

dirk1843
05-07-03, 08:35 AM
Here is an email response from ABC about the use of sub-channels.....

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Dear William,
Here is the response from our Chief Engineere, Scott Prentice.

This is a great observation by Mr. Allen!!!!!.....It is great to get some feedback from knowledgeable viewers...However, we are transmitting just one Video/Audio service at 15Mbs within our 19.39Mbs and it is called "Program 2". This is why you see (25-2). There is no "Program 1". Weird, but that's the setup we got when we received the encoder. Frankly, I have not found the motivation to change it to "Program 1". In the world of beta firmware the obvious will get you in trouble! If it works don't fix it! Theoretically, consumer receivers should find "Program 2" at 24-1. So this normally would not be a problem for receivers that process the guide or PSIP. "Program 11" is the other service and it is PSIP which is descriptions of what is in the stream. Program 11 is very small bandwidth....The 15Mbs never changes. We don't vary the compression. Whether it is HD from ABC or HD from our upconverter, we always keep "Program 2" at 15Mbs. I'm limited by our MPEG encoder as to the bandwidth options. This setting is optimized for HD in 15Mbs. I hope this helps....
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I'm not sure I understand the response. Its seems to me that he is saying that WPTY isnt transmitting on 24-2, that when we see it we are seeing a glitch in our recivers. If someone else can better gain insight into the response please post it..........................

Thanks

John Raymond
05-07-03, 06:32 PM
OK I was i David Bryants' office at Fox 13 on monday and he was surprised that I could pickup Fox 13 in midtown, he didnt thhink anyone was watching the DT channel. They broadcast in 480P and 480i for local. He has a small monitor in his office with a paperclip for an antenna and said that if the building was hot they would turn off the dt transmitter, but he wont do it now that he knows that someone is actually watching. They have new eqiipment coming and are having to redo the tower--mid July is the target date for full power. By the way "24" is awesome in widesreen and digital sound (so is nascar)

mx6bfast
05-07-03, 06:46 PM
Man,
It must be nice to watch shows like that in widescreen and digital sound. Are you boasting? haha, I would. When he was talking about the tower, where is it going to be located? Is it going to be in the same location as the one they have right now? I was told that it is in the opposite direction of the other towers. By the time they do get it up, all the good shows will already be done with and Nascar will be on NBC

John Raymond
05-09-03, 05:50 PM
pretty sure he was talking about the on useone of the towers out east that the other stations

Southerncentralrain2
05-22-03, 08:47 PM
Anybody in Memphis area picking up the Game on ABC in HD? Mine is in SD for some reason?

mx6bfast
05-22-03, 11:51 PM
Nope. I sent an email to the programming department asking if they were going to have the NHL and NBA games in HD since tonights game wasn't. I'll let everyone know what they say.
I'm not getting NBC in HD either. At least our local CBS affliate knows how to work it.

mx6bfast
05-29-03, 02:16 PM
This was the response I got back from ABC

It seems that we did have a game last week that was in HD, but due to operator error, we aired the normal analog signal instead We have taken care of the problem, and hopefully it won't happen again. But, if you should ever notice this again, please drop me a line.


I didn't check last night, but is WMC broadcasting in HD at night? It hasn't the last 2 times I have watched it.

dirk1843
05-29-03, 10:50 PM
Hello all.............................

As of earlier today, I am not getting anything from WMC at all on 52.


I have noticed that I can now cotrol the aspect of 31-1 and 51-1. Untill now, these stations have been locked in "full" mode by my E86. I guess they must have changed something in the PSIP stream to indicate they are transmiting in 4:3.

omarc
06-04-03, 08:18 PM
ABC-HD has been added to TWC channel 807 for NBA Finals.

Shmooze
06-05-03, 08:59 PM
I'm sitting here watching the Stanley Cup Finals on Time Warner HD and I must say it looks great! I also noticed that Time Warner is now showing CBS in HD (Channel 803).

rlj5242
06-06-03, 08:11 AM
I'm glad you guys are finally catching up with us OTA folks. On July 1, I'll let you know how ESPN HD looks. :D

-Robert

dirk1843
06-06-03, 01:26 PM
I was wondering if I was the only OTA user still looking at this thread!!

Where are you getting ESPN from Robert??

mx6bfast
06-06-03, 01:43 PM
I'm OTA. Is anyone else not getting WMC?? I'm pretty pissed that I haven't been able to get it for the past 3 weeks. I've sent emails to WMC about this, but haven't gotten any emails back. Anyone know of a contact over there?

I haven't been home to watch the NBA finals, but the NHL's look damn good. Except for when they cut to the overhead camera.

rlj5242
06-06-03, 03:04 PM
I was wondering if I was the only OTA user still looking at this thread!! I'm still reading it whenever it pops back to the first page.

Where are you getting ESPN from Robert?? I'll be signing up for it from D* as soon as it is available. The press release says July 1 but I hope they start it sooner.

Is anyone else not getting WMC?? My signal strength is barely meter barely registers anything sometimes. I have no idea what's going on. You are probably the closest to the towers so if you are having problems, then there's no hope for us. On the other hand, I don't watch a single HD show on NBC on a regular basis.

-Robert

dirk1843
06-07-03, 10:20 AM
I guess I was not paying very good attention to the HD programming section as it was Friday before I even noticed the D* HD package to be available 7/1.

mx6bfast
06-14-03, 05:58 PM
I got this email back from WMC after writing the VP because I never recieved a response back.

First let me apologize for any inconvience that has been caused to you. We are experiencing problems with our DTV equipment... both the transmitter and encoder rack. I just received our upconverter back from Leitch yesterday for the encoder rack and it has been installed and is now working. Currently we are unable to bring the transmitter up and I have been working with Thales on resolving the problem. The digital transmitter that we have has been very unreliable and has already been discontinued by Thales. We are schedule to have the control cabinet in the Advantage transmitter replaced in August with the control cabinet used in the DCX transmitter that Thales has used for several years now and is proven to be more reliable. Please be patient with us while we make this transition and if you have any questions please feel free to give me a call at 726-0505.

Thanks,
Derick McMillian
Chief Engineer, WMC-TV

I have a ? for people using TW, what HD channels do yall have right now? Do you have all the locals in HD?

jbzngowest
06-14-03, 10:16 PM
I have HD HBO, WPTY (NBA and NHL), and WREG. Star Wars looks amazing right now.

mx6bfast
06-16-03, 12:14 AM
I have D* and there was a lot of pixelation when watching SW, especially during action scenes. It was so bad I am seriously thinking about going to TW. For those with cable, how was SW the other night? Has TW had any news about adding other HD channels? ie ESPN, HDNet, and WMC? Last, can you pick up OTA HD thru an antenna with TW like you can with D*?

Neil L
06-18-03, 12:06 AM
Looks like WMC is back on the air. I was picking up a nice signal from them earlier tonight up here in Paragould.

dirk1843
06-18-03, 08:07 AM
Thanks for the heads up........................

I havent even looked for them in a few days...........

johnnyczme
06-19-03, 09:50 PM
Thanks for the word on WMC I had given up hope....Just hope the FOX 13 gets a transmitter up and going before Football season.

JohnnyC:)

Neil L
06-19-03, 11:25 PM
Not only is WMC back, but I'm getting a stronger signal from them now than ever before. Virtually equal to WREG. Don't know just what changes they made, some new equipment I guess, but it sure is for the better.

I hope FOX 13 gets things going soon, too. 100kwatts.com indicates that their contract is for what looks to be the highest power digital transmitter in Memphis. That would be a major change, after being on trickle power for so long.

DanielD
06-20-03, 12:12 AM
Leno is looking very good this evening.

dirk1843
06-25-03, 08:13 AM
I am having up and down results with 52-1 again..........................

Can anyone else confirm??

Neil L
06-29-03, 12:03 AM
Yes, 52 has not been very consistant. Sometimes I get a fairly good signal, other times no signal at all.

johnnyczme
06-29-03, 09:27 PM
AGAIN more disappointment from NBC WMC 5 for the last 3 nights NO HD feed not a trace of a signal...anyone know what the h*ll the problem with them is.

PO'ed in C'ville

JohnnyC:confused:

locomo
06-30-03, 10:26 PM
I just got an RCA F38310 and I'm having trouble tuning in CBS simultaneously with NBC and ABC. Antennaweb.org says I should be pointing at 15 to 21 degrees but I get a better signal at about 47.5. I'm out in East Memphis near Quince and Ridgeway, and I've tried different cables(coax and flat) connectors and antenna. I'm now on a radio shack UHF anttenna thats says it's good for a "red" zone. Do you think it could be the the built in receiver or should I bite the bullet and get a rotor?
I have it mounted on the roof of a 2 story house an there are no 4 story buildings around,only trees!
Thanks,
mo

dirk1843
07-01-03, 08:09 AM
I am not that familiar with the compass directions and areas in Memphis.

I dont know how far you are from the towers, but I think that they are in the same area. If you are too close to "see" them all in one direction, then a non-directional antenna or even an indoor antenna would be good for you.

If you can see them all in the same general area I would go with a more highly directional antenna.

I am over 60 miles away and I get all Memphis staions with only occasional dropouts with a RS vu-190.

mx6bfast
07-01-03, 04:18 PM
locomo,
I had a similar problem as you. I live 3 miles north of the Wolfchase mall. I would constantly get 100% on CBS and then BAD dropouts if any signal on WMC and WPTY. Once I turned my antenna the way of WMC and WPTY, I lost CBS. I have a Terk 35 antenna up in the attic of my 2 story house. After getting extremely frustrated, since this was very near the NCAA championship, I ended up stumbling upon the fix. I at first had both ends of the antenna hung from rope, pretty much flat. I undid the bottom rope, and now have the antenna pointing straight up in the air. The backwards Y(yagi I think) is at the top. The antenna I'm using is small enuf to be able to have it like that. Maybe this will help you out, cause I know how frustrating it can be.

About WMC, the contact there is Derek McMillian, DMcMillian@wmctv.com if you want to complain about their digital feed. I posted earlier about their hardware problems. But I'm sure they could use a little more voices to get them going. :-)

Last, who is the person to contact at FOX, WHBQ about the new HD for FOX stations?? I sent a message on their website to please get it to the correct person, but haven't heard anything back yet. I remember someone posted that they were in someones office there, but cant remember who it was here. I'm anxious to hear when we should expect to get the 720 feed or if the new tower they are having built will be suited for it.

locomo
07-01-03, 08:04 PM
Thanks Dirk1843 and Mx6bfast,
I talked to the electronic guru at work today, and he said the wrong compass direction was probably a reflection and the true heading could be at a null point.
So he suggested I LOWER the antenna (I had it on top of the mast) and BOOM it works now. Now if only NBC would come back.

mx6bfast
07-01-03, 09:42 PM
Sometimes the strangest things you wouldn't think of fixes it.

dirk1843
07-01-03, 09:49 PM
I would almost bet that the foot dragging by FOX in Memphis has something to do with the HD announcement by Fox. They probably knew it was coming but maybe not in what format or when................

mx6bfast
07-01-03, 10:04 PM
Your probably right. Good observation. I just hope that it doesn't take them until Fall 2004 to get the HD running.

Anyone else get the HD package today from D*? I think it looks pretty darn good. Once WMC gets fixed, FOX and PBS get running, and maybe the WB broadcasting real time, we should have a good ole time with HD here in Memphis.

johnnyczme
07-02-03, 07:03 AM
MX6,

I have the HD package from D* and enjoy it so far, ESPN is a big disappointment however....I concur with the other part of your post especially the WMC thing however fat chance on the WB since WPTY is the affiliate here, I've spoken to the WB people and they tell me as long as WPTY is the affiliate they will NOT go live here...But I do look forward to FOX in the fall and HD.

JohnnyC

dirk1843
07-02-03, 12:23 PM
What is the deal with WB?? are they are network are an also-ran??

I hear alot about them and their great shows, but I have yet to ever see the station in sd or hd..........................

I am in Peasux land so as of yet I still cant get the D* HD package.............

JRR2
07-02-03, 05:38 PM
Any word on when Time Warner Cable starts ESPN-HD & Discovery-HD? I would think that with Dish carrying these sations plus upcoming PPV-HD TWC would have to move or risk losing customers.
Also with all the talk of WMC antenna problems why get they get with TWC and carry WMC-DT on TWC like the local CBS and ABC affliates are already?

johnnyczme
07-02-03, 07:09 PM
Dirk,

The WB has 2 of the best primetime shows available IMHO, but because WPTY has them during the wee hours of the night they will not allow D* or TW to run as a separate channel.

JohnnyC

johnnyczme
07-02-03, 07:18 PM
Dirk,
I noticed you mentioned you are with pegasus? I'm not sure what that is but I did remember on another thread that guys have successfully signed up for the new HD package: heres a quote from there:
called Pegasus at 8:00 AM and added the package without a problem.

"Best part is that I'm a Select Choice customer and didn't have to upgrade to Total Choice. They didn't even mention it and I had the CSR read my new bill to me just to make sure that they hadn't changed it without telling me.

So that's good news for some of us.

Also noticed that the signal strength for trans 8 and 10 on Sat C improved from 71 to 81."

I hope this helps its under the HDTV programming thread "tried to sign up for the new hd package" or something like that.

JohnnyC

dirk1843
07-03-03, 08:13 AM
Thanks for the input johnny, but if you will glance at the HD programing you would see that many of us poor sould have our own thread about Peagasux and their lack of the HD programing.

I think the guy who got the HD and didnt have to upgrade was real lucky, probably got in to the call center before the bottom fell out and some one at D* or P* (dont know who is to blame yet) said no more sign ups for P* coustomers.....................

johnnyczme
07-05-03, 12:28 PM
Haven't had a audio feed for 3 days now on 3-1 WREG HD anyone else having problems.

JohnnyC

cws80us
07-05-03, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by dirk1843
What is the deal with WB?? are they are network are an also-ran??

I hear alot about them and their great shows, but I have yet to ever see the station in sd or hd..........................


The only way to see WB programming in Memphis is to either watch on WPTY after hours or become a Dish Network customer and subscribe to their Superstation package which includes 3 WB affiliates (New York, Chicago, and LA). Unfortunately, there is currently no way to get it in HD.

The WB is not an also ran; they just don't have a full-time affiliate in Memphis. IMHO they blow UPN away in terms of the quality of their primetime programming. As a matter of fact, I probably watch more WB programming than any other network.

mx6bfast
07-05-03, 04:47 PM
Johnny I'm getting WREG just fine.

Is anyone esle's WPTY seemed more stretched in the past couple of days?? Mine even seems shifted more to the left of the screen.

I'm usually not home during the day, does anyone know if any local stations broadcast in digital pretty much 24 hours a day?

DanielD
07-05-03, 04:50 PM
Yes, I've noticed the same thing. They're obviously playing with thier gear...

dirk1843
07-06-03, 09:28 PM
Back to th WB..........I know that Memphis is not a New York or L.A. when it comes to number of viewers, but why cant WB get a full time affiliate in this area??

Looks like a good market to me.................

mx6bfast
07-07-03, 05:17 PM
I think we should have the WB aired real time here too. They have a lot of good shows. From a couple of responses I got, the WB is *supposed* to move to WLMT in the fall, but it is still wont be HD cause its starting at 10. Now thats the word that I got from someone at WPTY.

cws80us
07-09-03, 07:57 PM
If that happens then WLMT should just move the WB programming to primetime and put the UPN programming after hours. I think very few people would complain.

JRR2
07-14-03, 12:27 PM
When is TWC going to give us ESPN-HD?

jbzngowest
07-14-03, 03:01 PM
I bet TWC will give us all they can give us, in regards to HD content, when the higher ups figure out what to charge for it. I'm betting they will charge more than it would cost to have Direct HD, because of the convenience factor. I guess we'll see...

radarme
07-15-03, 01:11 AM
What happenned to ABC HD on TWC?

FritzinTN
07-17-03, 06:07 PM
I work an odd schedule (3pm-11pm) which leaves some odd hours to watch HD content. What HD content plays on the weekends or after 11pm over the air in Memphis?

Neil L
07-17-03, 11:44 PM
You can check titantv.com for program listings, including which programs are in HD. But, I think the only thing on after 11pm that is HD at the present time, is The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

dirk1843
07-22-03, 01:20 PM
How is everyone in Memphis after the storm??

I hope everyone is ok.

DanielD
07-22-03, 02:24 PM
dirk1843, It was the first time I ever saw a BFI can fly... Didn't know they could do that. LOL! We lost two trees in the yard but other than that we're ok...

mx6bfast
07-22-03, 03:02 PM
Doing ok. Took me an hour to make it to work from the Wolfchase area to Collierville, around noon. For anyone who wants to go sight see, I suggest a drive down Walnut Grove between 240 and White Station. I had to get off there from the interstate, and it was amazing for as bad as it was. I haven't been able to check to see if my dish was knocked off due to the high winds yet. My wife works at a hospital and they are using backups generators. I hope the power comes up quick. Hopefully the storms that they are predicting tonight wont be near as bad.
Since I don't have any power yet, can anyone check to see if the locals are able to send out their digital feed right now? I know the feed I'm getting at work for CBS and NBC are really bad right now. Just wondering

dirk1843
07-22-03, 08:28 PM
I work at a NAPA store in Arkansas, and out warehouse is over on Appling.

Does anyone know of alot of damage in the area, we werent able to get them on the phone all day.

rlj5242
07-26-03, 09:23 PM
I had an upstairs window sucked out of the house. Frame and all. I've already had a new one put back in. After seeing pictures of Memphis, I was lucky.

-Robert

DanielD
07-27-03, 09:39 AM
Anyone getting the audio feed on WREGDT? I'm not for a few days now...

johnnyczme
07-27-03, 09:57 AM
Daniel,

I had the problem prior to the storm....However, I had conversations with the engineering staff at WREG and we were able to track it down to an upgrade they did and my SAMSUNG box is not able to decode the new audio signal, so Samsung is going to swap me out for a new one. I haven't tried to aquire a signal since the storm.
JohnnyC

mx6bfast
07-27-03, 02:19 PM
No. I can only guess its because of the storm knocking out there power. They might've had other damage. Just a guess, not sure how good it is. Still not getting WMC and WPTY doesn't seem to be on as much as it has been.
Its getting to be the end of July and WHBQ was supposed to have their new antenna up and running by the end of this month. Does anyone have any contacts or info at the station sso we can ask about this?

DanielD
07-28-03, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by mx6bfast
Its getting to be the end of July and WHBQ was supposed to have their new antenna up and running by the end of this month. Does anyone have any contacts or info at the station sso we can ask about this?

You got me on this rumor. I asked them and received the following response from their engineer.

"Bad rumor - it will probably be late this fall before the antenna is up. We will still be low power then, but it should be high enough to cover the surrounding four counties, so that should solve most of the reception problems. We are preparing the tower for high power antennas as part of the work we're doing this fall, so that when we do go to high power it won't have to strengthen the tower again.

One bit of good news - Fox is going to 720P HD soon. I'm not sure about the details of how they will get the signal to us, or exactly when it will start, but it is a major change from the commitment to 480P they had up to now. I'm planning for us to pass it along unchanged once they start, so we may be at 720P when the new transmitter site is up and running this fall."

So it looks like much later this year BUT they're going 720P as soon as it's available! Bad news and GOOD news at the same time.

Dan

dirk1843
07-28-03, 08:49 PM
Any news is better than no news...........

mx6bfast
07-29-03, 02:15 PM
That is good news. Thanks for the info. Has anyone else noticed the wierd schedule that WMC-DT broadcasts? I was at home last night and watched some of the news at 6pm, but when I was changing channels, not watching :-), for Love or Money, it wasn't on. And since I don't usually get home till Leno, its only on maybe half of the time.
For those who have TW, how many HD channels do you have? Do you get the locals in digital or HD all the time? Like getting Leno in HD when it isn't available OTA? Just curious.

Neil L
07-29-03, 06:03 PM
WHBQ at high power will be good news to me. 720p is great as well. Although I would have been happy with 480p with enough power, which would have been better than nothing at all, as it has been for most of us.

STP
07-31-03, 08:21 PM
Johnny C,

I havent been able to get sound from WREG for weeks. I also have a Samsung (sir-ts160). I am getting a solid signal of around 90. All other channels are fine. How did you go about getting Samsung to send you a new box? Any help would greatly appreciated.

johnnyczme
07-31-03, 09:07 PM
STP,
Man you don't know how good it was to here someone else is having the same problem...the CSR's at Sammy think I'm a nut! Here's the low-down, I stopped getting the audio feed when the station upgraded the PSIP. I talked with Tom Hayes (543-2323) he's a nice guy that knows his stuff. I then called Sammy back and gave them the details that Tom shared with me. They tried to blame it on WREG but I insisted it was a sammy problem, I then added that my neighbor who has a SIR151 rcvr was getting an audio feed, so they finally agreed to SERVICE the box but I said NO they would replace the box...all they have is refurbed boxes which was no biggie...so I had to pay $600 bucks (refundable) to have them ship a box to me and then send mine back...here's where it get's interesting...I got the box 2 days ago, took mine down and put the new one on.. and BINGO I get WREG audio, things look good, I look on the program guide and its from San Antonio...so I go to setup change the zip code to 38017 it reboots and guess what... no freaking audio from WREG...I'm livid now...and to beat it all the picture is now pixelating everytime the picture moves...so I put the new one in the box and call sammy back so I've been waiting for 2 days now for a SENIOR tech to call me back. SO I am going to try the San Antonio zip code when I get a chance so I'll let you know...But PLEASE call Samsung @ 18005222946 and get to complaining!

JohnnyC

dirk1843
08-02-03, 01:33 PM
No problems with WREG with E86.

DanielD
08-11-03, 06:34 PM
Does anybody have any news on when WKNODT is to be on air? I heard May 2003 a long while back but nothing since.

DD

johnnyczme
08-11-03, 06:46 PM
Last time I looked on antennaweb.org it showed Sept 15 03

9ChargerFan
08-11-03, 08:49 PM
Anyone having trouble with sound and/or picture with WMC-5 dtv from over the air? I can get good signal strength and picture locks on occasionally, but no sound? I am using a Toshiba DST-3000. Thanks.

mx6bfast
08-11-03, 10:22 PM
WMC has been having hardware issues for the past few months. The guy that I emailed there said that they should be up and running by the end of this month. Apparently they had to replace their transmitter since the other one was not reliable. But I have noticed the same issues that you are for the past couple of days. If not, I can only get like a 20 on the signal strength.
As far as the CBS Sunday HD games. I sent an email to WREG and the reply I got back said that we will get the Titans game if the HD feed is at the same time. Although I like the Titans, I'd rather see HD. But thats cool. CBS doesn't allow their affiliates to broadcast both, like the HD on .2 because of contracts by the NFL.

Neil L
08-11-03, 11:02 PM
Glad to see that it's not just me that is getting no sound from WMC. Was having trouble with the picture also tonight even though signal strength was excellent.

Also I haven't seen even a blip from channel 24.1 (25) lately, are they still on the air? I rarely get a good signal from them, they used to show up in a channel scan, but not recently. I get channel 24 (NTSC) fairly well, but no digital.

johnnyczme
08-11-03, 11:07 PM
WPTY-DT 24-1 has given me no problems at all....WMC is a problem...

JohnnyC

DanielD
08-12-03, 03:01 PM
I sent WKNO an email when I posted earlier. Below is their response.

"We are planning to complete our digital conversion and be on the air November 1."

So, looks a bit longer but it's official and from WKNO...

All the Best,
DD

johnnyczme
08-15-03, 08:47 PM
Anyone having problems with WREG-DT..got a 100 sig strength but no pic at all? I was looking forward to watching Football on HD!!

thanks
johnnyC

mx6bfast
08-16-03, 01:52 AM
I don't think it was in HD. But I got the game perfectly with a picture.

mx6bfast
08-18-03, 08:04 PM
Does anyone in the Bartlett/Germantown area pick up any stations from other cities, like Jonesboro? I saw the listing for KIAT I think on titantv. I didn't think we were close enough. Can anyone in Memphis get these stations?

dirk1843
08-18-03, 09:14 PM
Hey mx, I am 20 miles from Jonesboro and I haven't got them yet!!

On the NE Arkansas thread, Neil, who has also posted in this section has gotten KAIT but not reliably.

KAIT and a PBS station are the only stations we have.

Neil L
08-18-03, 11:00 PM
Just wondering if any of you have received a signal from channel 39 in Jackson? I sometimes get a weak signal of about 5 on a meter with 0-100 range. Never any picture though.

As for KAIT, I can get a strong signal in the mid 50's for a second any time I tune in. But then it drops away to 0-5. Again tonight, for the second time this week, I was able to lock onto a signal in the 50's with sound for several minutes. But, never produced a picture.

I think my problem is that my antenna is behind a wall of trees that are 65 feet tall. So it is probably in overlapping fields: a weak field that passes through the trees plus a weak field that is diffracted around, or over the trees. But I don't want to put up a 70' tower just yet, because I think that once they get their power up it should solve my problem. At full power you may be able to pick 'em up in Memphis. But you guys in Bartlett are almost 75 miles from the tower.

They are broadcasting at only 4.5Kw ERP since Aug. 6, which is 25% of full power. Oddly enough, I was able to view their signal for about 20 minutes one evening, when they were still only at 10% power! They plan to ease up to full power over a period of time to give the Jonesboro cable system a chance to handle the interference problems they are likely to have since KAIT-DT is on channel 9, and the cable co. has KAIT analog on channel 9 on the cable system.

mx6bfast
08-19-03, 04:12 PM
Thanks for the info. I think I'll skip the 70 foot tower and not worry about that station.
Did anyone watch the football game last night? If so, did WPTY broadcast it in 5.1? My reciever showed L/R speakers with Dolby Digital & Pro-logic/II displayed, and sound was coming out of all my speakers. That would lead me to believe it was. But, when I go to HBO which is DD, all 5 speakers are showing as sound coming from them. Any ideas?

dirk1843
08-20-03, 08:27 AM
I have yet to see any ATSC out of Memphis with anything above 2.0 DD.

If you had your receiver set to DPL II then it was creating a 5.1 sound field from what you were getting.

If your receiver showed only L/R speakers then all the were sending is 2.0.

DanielD
08-20-03, 10:09 AM
I lost WREGDT the other day and haven't been able to get it since. I have a good, strong signal (88%) but my Dish6000 won't display a channel number or lock to the signal. So, I don't have it in the program guide. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

dirk1843
08-20-03, 01:29 PM
I havent had any problems in the evening with WREG. I dont know when/if they are on during the day as for some reason the program guide of my E86 shows them off air untill around 7.

I ususally dont get to watch anything before then anyway.

johnnyczme
08-20-03, 06:22 PM
DanielD,
I have a 100 signal and get nothing, signal is locked but nothing, I thought is was just my Sammy thing again. Pls let me know if your picture returns anytime soon.

JohnnyC

DanielD
08-20-03, 07:46 PM
I just emailed WREG and asked for help. I'll let you know if I hear anything..

DD

DanielD
08-23-03, 07:19 PM
Is there anyone in Memphis using a DISH6000 with the 8VSB receiver that CAN receive WREG-DT?

Who, with a DISH6000 & 8VSB module, cannot receive WREG-DT?

Thanks,
Dan

johnnyczme
08-24-03, 09:45 AM
Dan,
What did WREG say about your problem? I still have no pic but 100 signal.

JohnnyC

johnnyczme
08-25-03, 09:28 PM
Don't know what's up but I'm getting WREG-DT, but just lost my feed from WPTY-DT and now no MNF in HD....Damn it!! I had a great signal now nothing, zilch, nada...

frustrated in c'ville
JohnnyC

DanielD
08-25-03, 10:56 PM
Looks like the problem with the DISH6000 had something to do with closed captioning. It was fixed as of this morning so if you are using a DISH6000 you should be getting WREGDT again:) :) :) :)

radarme
09-04-03, 07:33 PM
Just noticed this today. Looks like I'll get to see tonight's game in HD afterall.

mx6bfast
09-08-03, 12:41 AM
Did anyone watch the Chiefs/ChargersHD game OTA today on CBS? If so what did you think about it? I thought it looked pretty good. I thought that there was an awful lot of pixelation though. Going from the HD feed to the D* feed was scary. I only watched a little bit of the US Open, but I didn't see as near as much pixelation in that.

johnnyczme
09-08-03, 06:30 AM
mx6bfast,

Watched about an hour of the game and it looked pretty good, did not notice pixelation though, and you are right the D* feed was pretty ugly.

johnnyc

jetdoctor
09-08-03, 09:52 AM
Didn't see the game but did watch the U.S. open, not a real tennis fan but the picture looked so good I couldn't turn it off.....

jbzngowest
09-08-03, 12:27 PM
I saw it on TimeWarner HD. It was awesome. My wife actually asked me what I did to the tv to get such a good picture!!

locomo
09-09-03, 02:10 PM
Anyone get Leno OTA recently?

mx6bfast
09-09-03, 02:40 PM
WMC has been having hardware issues for a few months now. I sent an email to someone there to ask if the problem has been resolved or if it is close to being fixed.

rjhseven
09-09-03, 06:07 PM
I am almost ready to re-mount my OTA HD antenna (radio Shack) on my roof. It is currently mounted too low and i get nothing. My question is what time do the Memphis stations begin broadcasting their OTA HD signal; I thought i heard that it was 7pm but I would rather not do this that late. i would like to tune in at least one HD station while I am on the roof. thanks for any help.

FritzinTN
09-09-03, 06:11 PM
Is anyone here had problems out of the TWC feed? After nearly 8 service calls I still havent recieved an HD compatable cable box :( at my house, and my girlfriend is now going down the same road ...


Also if you are using TW are you being charged 7bucks for the cable box? My girlfriend was told on the phone there would be no charge, however when the gentleman showed up Monday with the cable box (not HD like specified on the invoice :() it also showed a 6.95 fee for 'HDTV' and the lady at the payment center said that was normal, however obviously didnt understand what HDTV was.

mx6bfast
09-09-03, 06:33 PM
rjh, 7 is when they start broadcasting HD signals. Not unless you are home from 11-noon and can catch The Young and Restless. Other than that I'm not aware of any other HD programs before 7. But the stations do broadcast their DTV feeds before that. When I am home before 7, I can usually catch the 6 o'clock news on the digital feed. I'm sure that its on before then, but I'm just not home to see it. You said its too low. At my house, I have my antenna in my attic and I found that I get the best signals when its pointed up/down. I don't think it sounds right, but its a thought.

As far as TWC, did they tell you what HD channels are available? I'm interested to know. Does TWC offer an option for HD only?

Good luck,
Dennis

wiggo
09-09-03, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by FritzinTN
Also if you are using TW are you being charged 7bucks for the cable box? My girlfriend was told on the phone there would be no charge, however when the gentleman showed up Monday with the cable box (not HD like specified on the invoice :() it also showed a 6.95 fee for 'HDTV' and the lady at the payment center said that was normal, however obviously didnt understand what HDTV was.

I've had the HD box for almost a year, and TWC just started charging the $6.95 last month. So it used to be no charge, but not anymore.

TWC has also added INHD (at least the free preview version) on channel 801 (labeled USOPN, since it was there to carry the HD US open feed for USA network). If they keep it, and add INHD2 and ESPNHD, I'll consider the $6.95 money well spent. But they'll probably come up with an additional charge.

-- Robert

FritzinTN
09-10-03, 04:48 PM
Thanks for the information about the charge. I really just want DiscoveryHD even if the programing is rotated a bit.

I was scheduled to have a TWC person stop by to deliver the HDcable box however as expected he didnt even show up. Another wasted day. I really wish they would just let me go pick this up instead of having it delivered, it makes no sense....


EDIT: Wow TW sucks. My girlfriend just got off the phone with a customer service person who happened to know me so they were actually helpfull. They had changed our subscription to the most expensive one, and cancelled my appointment. I guess thats what they do when you piss them off. Also he said that the 6.95 fee wasnt for HD in particular, but for the 'rental' of ANY cable box, hd or not. They werent able to tell us whether they had a HD box available, however they did schedule an appointment again for Sat. I hope my luck improves..

DanielD
09-11-03, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by mx6bfast
WMC has been having hardware issues for a few months now. I sent an email to someone there to ask if the problem has been resolved or if it is close to being fixed.

Did you ever hear back on your email??? There's been no HD for a while now...

mx6bfast
09-11-03, 01:39 PM
No not yet. Hopefully I will get a response soon. The last time I got a response I had to email the VP of WMC and I got the email back about the hardware issues the next day. I'm not gonna go that far again. I'll just wait until I hear something back from the guy I emailed.

johnnyczme
09-11-03, 01:47 PM
GREAT NEWS for WB FANS !!!
Just read the Commercial appeal and WPTY 24 has given up the WB programming and moved them over to WLMT 30. SO no more interuptions due to bloody CHICAGO sports..

JohnnyC

mx6bfast
09-11-03, 02:17 PM
I got word of this months ago form someone at WPTY, but never heard anything more of it. This will be good news IF:

1) The shows come on real time as the are broadcast from WB. (It doesn't look like it, which means #2 isn't true)

2) The shows are broadcasts in HD.

I'm not sure about #2. I know I can pick up the UPN feed at 100% all the time.

Does the article mention any of this?

DanielD
09-11-03, 03:39 PM
My UPN, 31-01 digital, has been blank with no audio for a few days now. Anyone else experiencing this? Using a DISH6000.

It's doing the same thing as WREGDT was doing a while back...

johnnyczme
09-11-03, 05:39 PM
The article did not say anything about HD, but a quick scan of our season pass manager on the TIVO indicates that most of the programming appears to be in the 9p to 10p time frames. So it's anyones guess about the HD availability.
Dan I just tuned to 30-1 and got both video and audio.

JohnnyC

BostonT
09-16-03, 03:45 AM
I just signed up for HD Digital Cable and have an appointment scheduled for wednesday. I have a couple questions, what box will they be bringing? Are there any cool features on it? What channels are on the service? Time Warner only lists HBO and SHO, but some of my customers have said they carry ABC and CBS now, is that true? Are there any plans to add additional stuff in the near future?

omarc
09-16-03, 04:19 PM
I have the 3100HD box and have not noticed any features I would consider cool.
From memory TWC has the following HD channels:
801 (INHD preview)
803 CBSHD
807 ABCHD
815 HBOHD (incorrectly listed by TWC as 315)
840 SHOHD (incorrectly listed by TWC as 340)

Hopefully 801 and 802 will become INHD1 & 2 soon.

BostonT
09-16-03, 06:39 PM
There goes my hope for the Pace/Pio box. I wanted the component loop through in hopes that it would scale :( .

FritzinTN
09-16-03, 10:18 PM
I finally got a TWC monkey to come out and hook up the Pace 550HD and I was damn pleased with the box. I havent used the passthrough feature since it requires turning the unit off (booo) and the tivo needs it to record the stations over 100.

Regarding scaling, I'm not sure what you mean but the 4:3 data it keeps within a 16:9 frame so if your TV is set to 16:9 (we are using a projector) it wont stretch the image. I just wish they would hurry up and add the INHD (its blank right now) and DiscoveryHD.

BostonT
09-17-03, 12:12 AM
I mean passing through a 480p or 720p signal and the box sending out a 1080i signal. I did read about the letterboxing of the box too. I have a 16:9 Samsung Direct View set.

jbzngowest
09-17-03, 08:16 AM
Channel 807 pic quality is horrendous (it can't be HD). 801 INHD was showing a bit leading up to the blank screen with the preview stuff. They also showed some women's tennis (not pro), Deathtrap and some movie with Carrie Fisher/Chevy Chase. 803 really shines on Sunday with the NFL. The 3100 box is featureless in my opinion. I'm weighing the option of Direct TV. Has anyone compared the prices?

BostonT
09-17-03, 12:24 PM
They just delivered the box to me. The guy brought in a 3100HD, but when he went to activate it the dispatch told him to get another box. He came back with a brand new PACE unit. I haven't had a chance to use it yet because of the lack of a signal, but it is nice. It has DVI and optical, as well as optical and component pass through for those without enough inputs on their tv.

bootz
09-22-03, 09:47 PM
Hey everyone,

MNF comes in great OTA on channel 24-1. The picture is awesome on my F38310, but there is a very annoying audio problem. Every 2 or 3 minutes, the 5.1 surround is accompanied by an awful-sounding "scratch" noise...kind of like I have a DJ scratching a record in my home theater.

Any other Memphis / non-Memphis MNFers have this problem? TIA!

BostonT
09-22-03, 10:04 PM
I'm on TWC and having the same problem. It's definately a station/network issue, and not a reception one.

bootz
09-22-03, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by BostonT
I'm on TWC and having the same problem. It's definately a station/network issue, and not a reception one.

Thanks for the follow-up. Are you receiving ABC-HD over Time Warner cable? When did they start broadcasting local HD?

THanks

mx6bfast
09-22-03, 10:08 PM
Yeah I'm getting it too OTA. I was hiding some cables and I first thought it was cables getting loose. Then I heard it on another tv, so I knew it had to be something with ABC.

Is the sound coming in 5.1? My reciever is only showing L/R Digital/Prologic/II, but there is sound coming out of all my speakers.

BostonT
09-22-03, 10:18 PM
Yes, TWC has ABC, CBS, HBO, and SHO in HD. Don't know exactly when they started.

dirk1843
09-23-03, 06:04 PM
I too am getting the "scratch" sound from ABC with OTA.................

BostonT
09-23-03, 09:29 PM
No abc HD tonight from 24 :( .

johnnyczme
09-24-03, 06:49 AM
ABC OTA was up and going (watched 8 things and I'm with her), but I didn't get Law and Order in HD last night on NBC....channel was up and transmitting but not hd signal.

JohnnyC

radarme
09-25-03, 12:04 PM
Just an FYI.... There is a thread over on HDTV | Programming regarding TWC adding a HD tier which would include INHD and INHD2. I just called TWC and asked about it... the CSR said they do not offer a HD Tier.... of course she also said they only offer HBO & SHOW in HD...

FritzinTN
09-28-03, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by radarme
Just an FYI.... There is a thread over on HDTV | Programming regarding TWC adding a HD tier which would include INHD and INHD2. I just called TWC and asked about it... the CSR said they do not offer a HD Tier.... of course she also said they only offer HBO & SHOW in HD...

I know there are numerous 'contacts' listed for local stations to pester about HD broadcasts (or often lack there of). Is there a particular person at TWC that we can bug. The cust. serv. people do nothing aside from irritate me with their ignorance, it would be nice to talk to someone at TWC that could give us straight answers and let know that we want more HD programming. Its sad reading this threads that some TWC regions have ESPNHD, DiscHD, inHD, etc...

DanielD
09-28-03, 08:13 AM
Just what local stations does Time Warner carry and what are the channel numbers? My neighbor told me last night that TW said they didn't carry local digital channels...

That's why he hasn't gone with the digital tier.

Thanks,
Dan

radu
09-28-03, 02:46 PM
803 WREG
807 WPTY

I am very curious: if you happen to have both an OTA stb and the TWC hd box, is anyone comparing OTA picture quality with TWC, on, say, ABC Monday Night Football, or CBS Sunday footbal? If yes, what do you think, and what box are you using?

What is the "Pace" box from TWC?

I can't believe TWC is starting to charge for boxes. I had finally taken back the non-hd digital box, cause I never used it, thinking I was gonna save the 7 bucks. :mad:

radu
09-28-03, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by bootz
Thanks for the follow-up. Are you receiving ABC-HD over Time Warner cable? When did they start broadcasting local HD?

THanks

This is what I remember. May not be all accurate:

TWC started WPTY-DT on channel 807 for (or a little before) the NBA finals this year. They kept it on for a while after that, then off. Then they had it on for the Stanley Cup. Took it off again.

I bought me a Zenith OTA box, cause I coudn't stand the thought of not having Monday Night Football in HD. That first inaugural Monday Night Football on a Thursday, WPTY-DT was back on channel 807.

radarme
09-29-03, 09:21 AM
Don't forget:

815 HBO
840 SHOW

We had the INHD previews on 801 for a few weeks until 9/15.

mx6bfast
09-29-03, 02:10 PM
Has anyone been picking up WMC-DT OTA? I actually have been. I've been getting signals in the 30-50 range, but I'm actually getting a picture. Or at least was this weekend when I was checking. Was getting alot of blockiness. Maybe their equipment is nearly up and running again. Hopefully HD soon. I will email the guy I did last time and hopefully he will email me back this time. If I get a response I'll post it here.

mx6bfast
09-29-03, 05:48 PM
Here is the response I got from WMC:

The transmitter manufacturer did replace the transmitter with a different version that is more reliable. It has been in service for more than a month now. We are operating the transmitter 12 hours... from noon until midnight. The only HD programming we are broadcasting is the HD programs provided by NBC.


Here is another email I got about WPTY sending out 5.1:

Our ABC digital equipment only gives us 2 channel audio, some systems will send it to all of the speakers. We do not currently broadcast true 5.1 surround sound.


Well that sucks about 5.1. Oh well. I will be watching tonight to see if I am getting NBC in HD. Please post here if you do/don't.

jetdoctor
09-30-03, 08:32 PM
I have been getting wmctv 5 ota very well with little or no dropouts but have lost wlmt and wpty completely in the last several days. anybody getting abc ota? wreg still has the best signal i have ever received.

mx6bfast
09-30-03, 09:15 PM
I've been getting WMC very well also. I was waiting until someone else posted before I did again.
As far as WPTY and WLMT, still getting them at 100.

johnnyczme
10-01-03, 06:46 AM
Getting all DT signals now strong and constant, here in C'ville.
johnnc

radarme
10-01-03, 11:33 AM
Changes at TWC... Here is the latest HDTV lineup as of today:

803 WREG
807 WPTY
825 Fox Sports
844 Discovery
815 HBO
816 HBO West
840 Showtime
841 Showtime West

INHD and INHD2 are supposedly coming soon....

radarme
10-01-03, 11:53 AM
On Monday, I had TWC come out and swap me a PACE 550HD box for my SA3100HD box. I really like it. It's faster when channel surfing and the program guide works much better on the HD channels. I also really like the scaling ability so that when you switch from a HD channel to a SD channel, it streches the SD image to fill the screen automatically. The TWC tech stated that they will be offering a Pace box sometime during 2004 that will have the ability to record HDTV onto a harddrive similar to the SA8000.

FritzinTN
10-01-03, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by radarme
Changes at TWC... Here is the latest HDTV lineup as of today:

803 WREG
807 WPTY
825 Fox Sports
844 Discovery
815 HBO
816 HBO West
840 Showtime
841 Showtime West

INHD and INHD2 are supposedly coming soon....

Sweet! Finally I can stop my weekly phone calls to TWC for DiscHD, too bad I'm stuck traveling this week and can't watch it :(

BostonT
10-01-03, 07:41 PM
Awesome, looks like I got onboard just in time. Now all we need are NBC, INHD, and ESPN. The picture on DISCHD is amazing. I can't tune 825, is fox sports not 24/7?

BostonT
10-01-03, 07:53 PM
Also, an engineer from PBS came to my work last weekend to pick up an HDTV to watch the NEW PBS DIGITAL FEED. That's correct! WKNO will be offering HDTV within the next month, and expect to be on Time Warner with original programming by the first of the year.

radarme
10-01-03, 11:22 PM
Yeah I'm not getting 825 (Fox Sports) either. It is listed on the channel lineup on www.twarner.com. Maybe it will be up and running soon. I saw on another thread in the HDTV | Programming area that a TWC tech from the Charlotte area is saying that ESPN-HD and both INHD's will be up and running there on Nov 3rd.... Supposedly, the guy has been reliable in the past but you would think TWC would have a press release about any agreement reached to carry ESPN-HD. Good news about PBS!

mx6bfast
10-02-03, 12:11 AM
Titan TV has said that PBS is supposed to go live with digitial September 15th. Hopefully it'll be sooner than that. I'm not sure if they will run just the HD loop like other PBS's do, or if they will also show their regular content. If Anyone from PBS comes back in your store ask them.

radu
10-02-03, 12:28 AM
sorry to bug you all about this, but

"I am very curious: if you happen to have both an OTA stb and the TWC hd box, is anyone comparing OTA picture quality with TWC, on, say, ABC Monday Night Football, or CBS Sunday footbal? If yes, what do you think, and what box are you using?"

I asked this a few days ago, and am really wanting to know if any of you happen to do both OTA and TWC and what you think. And not just sports, but shows like CSI, Still Standing, etc.

Thank you

DanielD
10-02-03, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by mx6bfast
Titan TV has said that PBS is supposed to go live with digitial September 15th. Hopefully it'll be sooner than that. I'm not sure if they will run just the HD loop like other PBS's do, or if they will also show their regular content. If Anyone from PBS comes back in your store ask them.

WKNO is stating 1 November for the on air date. That's per their engineering folks.

Dan

JRR2
10-02-03, 11:02 AM
Has any one had problems with TWC dropouts in HD 800's. My 3100HD box reception was fine for the HD channels until they added the additional channels day before yesterday. Now the picture is dropping out and going black every 2 minutes or so. Extremely annoying!

MempoDawg
10-03-03, 12:19 PM
Does anyone else have a problem with audio not matching the video sometimes when watching OTA programming? Is this an antenna problem or is it the nature of the beast?

omarc
10-03-03, 01:11 PM
Radu,
I have the Samsung SIR-T151 and the 3100HD. In my opinion TWC HD locals are not as crisp as OTA. When comparing MNF for example the image from the 3100HD was not even close.

I will also add HBO & SHOHD are just as sharp as CSI or Threat Matrix.

I am dropping TWC for a DirectTivo (I already have a stand-alone) and plan to add a HDTivo in the future.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: You wanted opinions on more than sports, and a direct comparison of CSI was better on OTA.

omarc
10-03-03, 01:19 PM
MemphoDawg,
As stated above I have the SIR-T151 and I only have audio sync problems on 52-1 NBC.

radu
10-03-03, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by omarc
Radu,
I have the Samsung SIR-T151 and the 3100HD. In my opinion TWC HD locals are not as crisp as OTA. When comparing MNF for example the image from the 3100HD was not even close.

I will also add HBO & SHOHD are just as sharp as CSI or Threat Matrix.

I am dropping TWC for a DirectTivo (I already have a stand-alone) and plan to add a HDTivo in the future.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: You wanted opinions on more than sports, and a direct comparison of CSI was better on OTA.

Omarc,

Thank you. When I had the Zenith, I thought the OTA stuff looked better also, but wanted someone else's opinion. I know for sure the show that I think has one of the best pics (Still Standing) looked better OTA than TWC.

This is going to bug me, knowing that I'm not getting a good of a picture as I could...

Thanks again

mx6bfast
10-03-03, 04:20 PM
Like omarc mentioned, the only time I have ever had a problem was usually with NBC. Don't recall any other stations. But usually if there is an audio problem, its with the station.

HDTV_Duffus
10-09-03, 05:47 PM
Is anyone receiving Fox OTA or has anyone gotten an update on when they will move/repair their antenna?

mx6bfast
10-15-03, 05:05 PM
This is the response I got back about FOX HD....

You're probably too far from us to get the DTV signal right now. Later this year, we will move the antenna to our tall tower at Raleigh-LaGrange Rd and I-40, and you should have no problem picking it up from there.

We pass through all Fox programming in the format it is delivered to us (currently 480p but soon to be 720p), and we upconvert the rest. We probably won't upconvert our standard definition programming to 720p until Fox changes their distribution to 720p this fall. Otherwise we would have problems in switching back and forth between them.


He doesn't mention anything about when it will happen.

Neil L
10-15-03, 06:23 PM
He doesn't mention anything about when it will happen.
Well, of course, the sooner the better, but he does say "later this year". So that leaves about 10 weeks for them to get it done. I won't be looking for them any time this month, and I don't expect them to be on the air in November. We've been waiting a really long time already.

radu
10-20-03, 02:50 PM
Hi.

Is anyone having problems with the picture on TWC 807 (WPTY-DT)? For a couple of weeks now the picture looks good for a second and the next second it looks pixelized, or lower resolution. Noticeable especially at edges of lines, faces, etc. It's almost literally a second of good pic, a second bad, back and forth all night long... Not really sure how to explain it. It's not the pixelizing where you actually see the little squares when the signal is weak.

It makes for a terrible Monday Night Football watching experience. Tried resetting the box, even called TWC, and they just reset the box, themselves. No change.

using the SA 3100HD box.

mx6bfast
10-21-03, 05:19 PM
Here is some good info that everyone might want to know.......


From UPN:
Star Trek and Jake 2.0 are being broadcast in HD


From PBS:
1) When do you expect to have it up and running?

We will begin testing our DTV channel 29 facilities in late November with an goal to beginning normal program service during the first quarter of 2004.

2) I live 3 miles north of the Wolfchase area and get locals OTA. Will I be able to receive it?

You should have no problem receiving the DTV signal. Our transmitter is located about three miles south and a little west of Wolfchase, so even at reduced power you should have an easy time.

3) Will it be the demo loop all the time that I have read about at other cities, or will normal programming be either up converted or broadcast in HD when available?

When we begin the service will consist of mostly standard defination programming. As PBS and our other program suppliers provide more HD content we will expand our HD offerings.


4) What kind of optimal sound does PBS pass?

Dolby AC3 or Dolby 5.1. Most will just be stereo AC3 content, however during the next year 5.1 will become more prevlant.

5) If it’s DD5.1, will the antenna be able to pass that?

If a antenna passes the DTV signal by nature the Dolby 5.1 if available with the program, will be passed

6) Will the picture be stretched or 4:3?

A limited amount of content will be up-converted, but I do not expect that you will see a lot of 4X3 content streached to 16X9

mx6bfast
10-21-03, 05:57 PM
I also have another issue that I need some help on.

I used to be able to get all the local DT stations OTA using an E86. Then I had some guys do some duct work for another room, and they totally screwed up my antenna placement. So, spending about 4 hours trying to get all the stations hasn't been successful.

I can get all but 1 channel near 100% almost all the time. It's either no WREG or no WMC. I need WREG but also WMC for ER for my wife. Whats strange is I can get WPTY at 100% but like 20% on WMC, and they both point pretty much in the same direction.

So my question is, I am currently using a TERK TV-35 antenna up in the attic. I need to get another indoor antenna to be able to pick up either WMC or WREG almost exclusively. Does anyone recommend a smaller antenna, maybe one that can be even used on top of the stb? And what piece of equipment will I need to get to split the antenna feeds going to my 5x8 multiswitch? If It can be picked up here in Memphis that would be a HUGE plus.

dirk1843
10-21-03, 09:56 PM
I wonder if they installed metal ductwork, and if so could that be between your antenna and the stations??

It seems you have had good luck in the past with the Terk. I have never used one (way to far for me to try) but they have a bad reputaion here on the forum.

The silver sensor by Zenith seems to be a favorite for indoor use. You can get them at Sears.

mx6bfast
10-21-03, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the info. I have seen that antenna before but passed over it. I saw that it said to point the antenna in the direction that you want to pick up. Will that antenna be able to pick up all the stations if I don't point it in a certain direction? Anyone here using that antenna?

If I added that antenna to my Terk, do you know of any additional equipment, ie diplexer, I would need?

The builders put in foil ductwork. And I am happy that I am getting the game room finished, but pissed that I have to work on this again. Argh!

jetdoctor
10-22-03, 02:42 AM
I have been using the zenith silver sensor that I picked up at sears, wolfchase. When I first started using the antenna I had it set on top of the TV and moved it around to try and locate the local channels. btw this is a directional antenna and yes it must be pointed in the direction of the signal.,, however even got the Jackson dt station, the antenna has worked well for me for less than $40. you should be able to use an in line splitter to go into the 5x8 thats what I did when I added the vhf antenna as the zenith is only UHF which in itself is fine since all HD channels are in the UHF freq band at least for now.

mx6bfast
10-28-03, 11:30 PM
I got everything fixed. I am actually using my Radio Shack VU120, or something like that, on one end of the attic and the Silver Sensor on the other by the multiswitch, but I am now getting all the channels >80 now.

Since I am not home on Wednesday nights, can someone please post if Star Trek and Jake 2.0 are being broadcast in HD here.

Thanks,
Dennis

johnnyczme
10-29-03, 06:49 AM
mx6bfast,
how are you using the multiswitch (what type ? ) I would love to be able to use 2 antennas and try and get the other channels around the area.

johnnyc

mx6bfast
10-29-03, 02:03 PM
I am using a 5x8 multiswitch. I think its a Terk. I got it at Best Buy. If they don't have one at the BB you go to, you can order one on any satellite website, or CC.

For both of the antennas, I am using a gold plated combiner, not sure of the official name, that I got from RS. Cost $5. I got it from the RS across the street from Sams on Winchester. If someone asked, just say that you need to combine 2 antenna's into 1 feed. The piece they gave me had a picture on the back of what the combiner does. If the picture doesn't show 2 antenna's combining into 1 feed, its the wrong thing. It looks just like a diplexer.

Hope this helps.

johnnyczme
10-29-03, 04:19 PM
MX6Bfast,

So you are combining both antenna feeds and getting reception from both antenna? You are not having to decombing the signals at the end are you?

johnnyc

mx6bfast
10-29-03, 04:44 PM
No. I don't know what decombing the signals would entail, or how to do it. I'm not too smart when it comes to antenna jargon.

I watch the locals when they aren't on the DT channels on D*. That's because now they have white lines in them. I figure that must be a byproduct of having 2 antennas. When I had one antenna they were better. If I could make those channels look better with both antenna's I'd be all for it.

dirk1843
10-29-03, 05:23 PM
Any time you combine 2 or more antenna pointed in different directions you will get all sort of problems.

With the right type of equipment you can join a VHF and UHF antenna that point in different directions. And you can also use a device called a "jointenna" from channelmaster to filter out one VHF or a range or UHF channels so another antenna, aimed to recieve the filtered out channels can be added.

You can stack 2 identical antenna in the same direction to improve direction, and if using identical antenna with very high signal rejection on the backside you can point them 180 degrees apart.

Any other way/combination will give you trouble. The simplest way to use 2 antenna is to use an old style A/B switch.

BostonT
10-31-03, 12:42 PM
Anyone think we'll get more channels tomorrow? Would be great if they added NBC.

mx6bfast
10-31-03, 09:48 PM
Your using TW aren't you? What HD stations do you get?

Shoot, it would be great for WMC to be able to broadcast the DT station as regularly as other stations do. I am REALLY gonna miss watching FSU beat ND in digital tommorrow.

radarme
11-01-03, 05:01 PM
I've got INHD1 on channel 801 today. Channel 800 says it will be NBA-HD. I'm guessing it will be a combo channel for a while...

BostonT
11-01-03, 08:10 PM
Me too, cool :) . I'll take as much free HD as they'll give me.

BostonT
11-03-03, 09:39 PM
INHD1 is gone and now it says you have to order it! Boo TWC!

BostonT
11-03-03, 09:46 PM
I just called TWC, 801 is being sold with the NBA package. So if you want INHD you'll have to pay for that :( .

BostonT
11-04-03, 08:11 PM
No TWC customers around?

radu
11-09-03, 11:21 PM
when 801 was still not blocked, I was hoping to see the Lakers game on Sunday night, but they had INHD on playing some old movie. How is this gonna work? INHD1/NBATV-HD? What is this combo deal?

I am sorry to post this again, but if you see no problem, at least tell me you have no problem, that way I may ask for a new box from TWC. I am still having the same problem. Following is something I posted a few days ago, to where I didn't get any replies.

"
Is anyone having problems with the picture on TWC 807 (WPTY-DT)? For a couple of weeks now the picture looks good for a second and the next second it looks pixelized, or lower resolution. Noticeable especially at edges of lines, faces, etc. It's almost literally a second of good pic, a second bad, back and forth all night long... Not really sure how to explain it. It's not the pixelizing where you actually see the little squares when the signal is weak.

It makes for a terrible Monday Night Football watching experience. Tried resetting the box, even called TWC, and they just reset the box, themselves. No change"

Thank you very much

radarme
11-10-03, 10:12 AM
I would definitely call TWC and have them send someone out with a replacement box. I would also specifically request a PACE 550-HD box. It could be the signal (wiring issue), but it could also be the box. Good luck!

radu
11-10-03, 12:31 PM
radarme,

Thanks. I am guessing you are having no problem, and that you are using that new box.

I'll call TWC.

Thanks again,
Radu

locomo
11-11-03, 10:58 AM
Anyone still getting channel 24 ABC Monday night football audio dropouts via OTA?
I'm also getting them on ESPN Sunday football too (D*). Must be that darn RCA 100 tuner.

mx6bfast
11-11-03, 12:58 PM
I wont be able to check until later tonight, but I do know that ABC does have dropouts pretty frequently. They will happen alot for a short period of time, or not happen at all. Either that or there will be static for a few seconds. Kinda makes me mad when I'm watching TV and I hear a loud BOOM no sound, then BOOM again. I'm surprised my speakers haven't blown yet.

Neil L
11-11-03, 05:18 PM
I havn't seen even a blip of OTA signal from WMC-DT for a couple of weeks now, even though I get WPXX and WLMT most of the time. Are they still on the air? Or is it just my reception problem?

mx6bfast
11-11-03, 05:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that they aren't on the air right now. You can get in touch with Derick McMillian at DMcMillian@wmctv.com. He is the chief engineer and will probably tell you that they are having equipment issues, again. But it wouldn't hurt to ask. He never answered my last email which was saying thank you for getting it back on the air and I had a programming question for him. Of course a week after I emailed him it went off air. So someone else go for it.

jetdoctor
11-11-03, 11:19 PM
I had wmc tonight ota for a few minutes and was surprised, had to go to work so don't know how long it was up but at the time I was watching probably 5:30 pm had pic and sound but not HD, I also had the audio dropouts on abc MNF and other abc programs as well. This is the first time that I have had Wmc in probably 3 weeks.