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mx6bfast
06-26-09, 10:25 PM
It's still a work-in-progress, so you may see some funky aspect ratio conversions by accident, but we intend to keep everything 16:9 unless it would require distorting the video, then we use side panels.

We should be adding more HD bells and whistles at we go along. Maybe 5.1 audio one of these days!

The big push now is to get the DTV transmitter on the top antenna. That should solve a lot of reception problems (including mine at home). I hope to have it on the air sometime on Friday.
I've noticed for all field shots there is a black bar all the way across the top.

The news tonight is showing 5.1. Is that a true 5.1?

I'm also getting higher reception numbers tonight.

jsavchat
06-28-09, 08:53 PM
Thanks Dave,
I'll keep that in mind while shopping for an antenna. Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder if it's even worth all the trouble for one channel. Really, the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is Heroes, that I'd like to watch in HD on NBC. Can't stand the Today show and many other of NBC's big productions.
I think I'm more interested in the pride of just being able to say that I'm set up to receive all channels.
I just haven't noticed much of an 'in-stock' selection of antennas locally for the last few years.

DTV Dave
06-30-09, 10:35 AM
I've noticed for all field shots there is a black bar all the way across the top.

The news tonight is showing 5.1. Is that a true 5.1?

I'm also getting higher reception numbers tonight.

The black bars are from a timing problem between the upconverters and the switcher that we're working on. It shouldn't be there.

Our audio for all local programming is up-mixed 5.1 from the original stereo. This allows us to keep the loudness close to the real 5.1 that we pass on from Fox. One of these days, our local shows will be real 5.1, and we will pass them through without change as well.

The signal meter numbers shouldn't have been any higher last Friday (we didn't do anything that would have changed them), but they may be higher now. As of 5 PM yesterday we are now operating from our top-mounted antenna with full power, and even though this is supposed to only be a 2% increase from what we were running, I have noticed a 6 dB improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio at my house. It may make the difference between needing an outdoor antenna or getting by with rabbit-ears.

mx6bfast
06-30-09, 12:10 PM
The black bars are from a timing problem between the upconverters and the switcher that we're working on. It shouldn't be there.

The signal meter numbers shouldn't have been any higher last Friday (we didn't do anything that would have changed them), but they may be higher now. As of 5 PM yesterday we are now operating from our top-mounted antenna with full power, and even though this is supposed to only be a 2% increase from what we were running, I have noticed a 6 dB improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio at my house. It may make the difference between needing an outdoor antenna or getting by with rabbit-ears.
I noticed both of these this morning.

The HR20 in our bedroom was able to keep a steady 45% signal to get a/v OTA, compared to about 20 - 25%. I just happened to check it out because the brrriiiippp from the D* feed was so, so, so bad. Then Ernie mentioned it.
I'm using the remote control antenna that came with the box for OTA in there.

Sure enough the next day I was watching 13-1 the signal was breaking up. It was going from 90's to 0. Today it is actually hitting 100.

lp38119
06-30-09, 05:56 PM
Well, I went into my Menu options on my Dish VIP722 DVR and rescanned the local channels.
I still got nothing for 5. But I did get 13.1 at about 90% and it's in HD. Nice!

Good advice. I don't know why I didn't think to just try a rescan before.

Now if I can just find a nice minimal antenna that'll pick up 5. I've got the satellite version, but it's in SD. The other thing is that with my DVR I can record two satellite channels plus one local channel simultaneously.
Of course, if I find a VHF antenna to pick up 5, I guess I might as well make that the antenna for all local channels.
The last time I looked for outdoor/attic antennas Lowe's had one model in stock, Radio Shack had none. I ordered the little 2 bowtie UHF antenna online and shipping wasn't really an issue. I'd be glad to order the ideal antenna online but it seems that bulkiness of the bigger antennas drive the shipping cost way up. I don't know all the tech stuff about antennas. I wonder if a combo antenna not intended for low-VHF would do a fine job picking up 5 anyway? According to AntennaWeb, I'm only 3.6 miles from channel 5's broadcast tower.
I have the Radio Shack U-75R in my attic and get all the stations at 100% including Ch 5 and 13. This is with a TivoHD using OTA. The antenna is 40" long so it is fairly big.

I am watching an antenna on Ebay that includes free shipping. The seller has a 99% positive feedback. He has tons listed and many are selling for around $30 to $40 with free shipping. I plan to keep bidding until I win one for around $32. It includes a rotor and inline amp. He claims channels 2-79. It is 21" by 16" so still not real small.

jsavchat
07-01-09, 09:16 AM
I have the Radio Shack U-75R in my attic and get all the stations at 100% including Ch 5 and 13. This is with a TivoHD using OTA. The antenna is 40" long so it is fairly big.

I am watching an antenna on Ebay that includes free shipping. The seller has a 99% positive feedback. He has tons listed and many are selling for around $30 to $40 with free shipping. I plan to keep bidding until I win one for around $32. It includes a rotor and inline amp. He claims channels 2-79. It is 21" by 16" so still not real small.

Well, if you get the little ebay antenna, let us know how it performs. I'll check that out. I'd prefer not to have to mount a huge and expensive antenna on a new mast just for one channel. A moderate sized antenna in the garage attic would be a more reasonable solution.

bgoering
07-08-09, 11:08 PM
Hi All - For a while now (pretty much about whenever the BIG SWITCH) occurred I have been having audio problems when viewing the WHBQ Fox 13 channel over DirecTV. It frequenty buzzes and cuts out. The channel seems to be fine OTA. Has anyone else experienced this issue - and if so, do they know if anyone is working on it.

I have been patiently waiting for it to clear up and wonder if I should be calling someone!

Thanks,
Bill

mx6bfast
07-09-09, 10:21 AM
Hi All - For a while now (pretty much about whenever the BIG SWITCH) occurred I have been having audio problems when viewing the WHBQ Fox 13 channel over DirecTV. It frequenty buzzes and cuts out. The channel seems to be fine OTA. Has anyone else experienced this issue - and if so, do they know if anyone is working on it.

I have been patiently waiting for it to clear up and wonder if I should be calling someone!
What you are experiencing is known as the "brrrriiippp" syndrome on D*. I have seen it more on this channel than other locals. DTV Dave who posts here is an engineer at WHBQ. You could either send him a pm or he will eventually read it on here.

bgoering
07-09-09, 11:36 PM
What you are experiencing is known as the "brrrriiippp" syndrome on D*. I have seen it more on this channel than other locals. DTV Dave who posts here is an engineer at WHBQ. You could either send him a pm or he will eventually read it on here.

Thanks for the info. I tried to call D* and their system was down, and thus - they wouldn't take a problem report. I then called WHBQ newsroom, there was no one in engineering at the time, but the guy I talked to sounded like they were very familier with the problem, and he thought that D* would have to be the ones to fix it.

Anyway - apparently WHBQ has more power now then they did right after the "BIG SWITCH" and my home reception is good now, not spotty like it was earlier.

Long story short - I am not going to spend hours on the phone with D* to give a report I am sure they already have, and will just watch WHBQ OTA.

Thanks for your feedback

Bill

DTV Dave
07-13-09, 10:44 AM
What you are experiencing is known as the "brrrriiippp" syndrome on D*. I have seen it more on this channel than other locals. DTV Dave who posts here is an engineer at WHBQ. You could either send him a pm or he will eventually read it on here.

I've heard this from several DirecTV customers, although I've never heard it myself on WHBQ using their SD feed (I have heard it on other SD network channels, but I don't have HD). I think in my case, the problem is the buffer in the receiver overflowing. That may or may not be the case with the WHBQ HD feed. Since DirecTV picks this feed up over the air, and it doesn't seem to be an issue when receiving directly over the air for anyone but DirecTV customers, it is probably a DirecTV problem.

One thing that we have also heard via Fox is that AT&T UVerse has problems with audio at the splice points if a local station's audio bit rate differs from the Fox rate. WHBQ is now matching that rate (448 kb/s) to avoid that problem, and that may also have an effect on the DirecTV problem. We'll see.

mx6bfast
07-13-09, 11:00 AM
I've heard this from several DirecTV customers, although I've never heard it myself on WHBQ using their SD feed (I have heard it on other SD network channels, but I don't have HD). I think in my case, the problem is the buffer in the receiver overflowing. That may or may not be the case with the WHBQ HD feed. Since DirecTV picks this feed up over the air, and it doesn't seem to be an issue when receiving directly over the air for anyone but DirecTV customers, it is probably a DirecTV problem.
I'm pretty sure it's a D* problem. Since I am seeing it on quite a few channels from D*. Here is a thread that mentions it, http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2156458#post2156458.

I haven't seen it on any SD feed, only HD. But it is very bad when it happens. I haven't seen it near as bad on national channels compared to the D* WHBQ channel. The audio gets off sync, and then you hear an audio "stuttering" effect. When it happens the channel is unwatchable. I've only seen it during GMM, and when I go to the OTA feed it's perfectly fine. I'll try to capture it on my video camera next time I see it and send you the link though email if you want me to.

bgoering
07-13-09, 01:31 PM
I've heard this from several DirecTV customers, although I've never heard it myself on WHBQ using their SD feed (I have heard it on other SD network channels, but I don't have HD). I think in my case, the problem is the buffer in the receiver overflowing. That may or may not be the case with the WHBQ HD feed. Since DirecTV picks this feed up over the air, and it doesn't seem to be an issue when receiving directly over the air for anyone but DirecTV customers, it is probably a DirecTV problem.

One thing that we have also heard via Fox is that AT&T UVerse has problems with audio at the splice points if a local station's audio bit rate differs from the Fox rate. WHBQ is now matching that rate (448 kb/s) to avoid that problem, and that may also have an effect on the DirecTV problem. We'll see.

Thanks for the update Dave. I will try watching/recording the D* version of WHBQ again and see if it is fixed with your change to the audio bitrate. Lately I have just been using the 13-1 OTA signal and have not seen any problems. However, I am using the same receiver for both (D* HR20) so should I expect that if the problem is a receiver buffer overflowing, shouldn't I see that on the ATSC OTA tuner in the same receiver? Or is it only overflowing after the MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 upconvert that D* does.

It is all very confusing...

Thanks,
Bill

mx6bfast
07-13-09, 01:56 PM
Thanks for the update Dave. I will try watching/recording the D* version of WHBQ again and see if it is fixed with your change to the audio bitrate. Lately I have just been using the 13-1 OTA signal and have not seen any problems. However, I am using the same receiver for both (D* HR20) so should I expect that if the problem is a receiver buffer overflowing, shouldn't I see that on the ATSC OTA tuner in the same receiver? Or is it only overflowing after the MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 upconvert that D* does.

It is all very confusing...
The chip inside of the box does not convert the feed. The box can handle both mpeg-2 and -4 signals. The upconversion is done by D* before it is sent down to us. So for OTA is is coming is as -2. For D* it's coming in as -4.

Slolearner
07-13-09, 07:07 PM
FYI, I'm unable to receive channels 5 or 13 OTA (attic mount Philips SDV7400K/17 UHF/VHF/FM/HDTV) through a Dishnetwork VIP622 reciever.

Dish's tech support say they are working on these channels but I was curious if anyone else was having this same problem?

hdtvluvr
07-13-09, 07:33 PM
Did you do a rescan for OTA channels?

Where are you in relation to the towers?

Slolearner
07-14-09, 04:46 PM
Did you do a rescan for OTA channels?

Where are you in relation to the towers?

Yes I did a rescan. I have deleted all locals and done rescans several times. I have also tried to use the ADD LOCAL function in the VIP622's setup and there is no signal indicated in the meter.

Per antennaweb.org I'm 17 miles from WMC-5 and 14 miles from WHBQ.

NOTE: This does not appear to be a location or antenna issue as I have no problems receiving these channels with the antenna feed bypassing the Dish receiver and connecting directly to the TV. Since the original issue happened, I've installed a splitter with one coax connected to the Dish VIP 622 and one connected to the TV. This works for viewing channel 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 and 13 but does not allow for using the Dish VIP622's EPG or scheduling timers for OTA DVR recordings.

hdtvluvr
07-14-09, 07:27 PM
It may be that the tuner in the Dish receiver is more sensitive than the one in your TV and it is being overloaded. I think 5 and 13 are at full power now. Do you have a set of rabbit ears you can try with the Dish receiver and see if you can get 5 and 13? At 17 miles rabbit ears should give you some signal on your meter.

What does your signal meter give you on the other channels? If you get 5 and 13 with rabbit ears, you may need to attenuate the signal from your attic antenna.

Slolearner
07-15-09, 04:44 AM
It may be that the tuner in the Dish receiver is more sensitive than the one in your TV and it is being overloaded. I think 5 and 13 are at full power now. Do you have a set of rabbit ears you can try with the Dish receiver and see if you can get 5 and 13? At 17 miles rabbit ears should give you some signal on your meter.

What does your signal meter give you on the other channels? If you get 5 and 13 with rabbit ears, you may need to attenuate the signal from your attic antenna.

Do you have a VIP622 receiving WMC-5 and WHBQ-13 OTA?

I do not have any rabbit ears.

The signal meter in the VIP622 MENU SETUP LOCAL is as follows: (Note at the time of this posting atmospheric conditions are not optimal as I'm not receiving Jackson channels 7.1, 7.2&7.3 which usually comes in but only at night)
3=100
7=0
10=100
24=91
30=77
40=64
50=99

My Philips plasma TV has a signal bar without any numbers within the channel setup menu so the following are guesses as to how much of the bar is filled. Also the numbers are the transmit numbers:
5=85%
8=0 to 40% with no picture
10=0 to 40% with no picture
13=85%
19=0 to 40% with no picture
20=0 to 40% with no picture
23=85%
25=85%
28=85%
29=85%
31=55 to 60%
39=0 to 40% with no picture
41=0 to 40% with no picture
44=0 to 40% with no picture
51=85%

hdtvluvr
07-15-09, 08:14 AM
Well, I see that channel 10 also goes from 100 (picture) to 40 or below and no picture. So in essence you loose 5, 10 and 13 between the 2 tuners. It is interesting that these 3 towers are all west of the other towers and 5 is the furthest west.

It is possible that the TV tuner is more sensitive thus allowing you to pick up 5 and 13 with 10 being too strong. Too strong will not peg 100, it will waiver the signal because the tuner can not lock onto it. However, just because a signal waivers doesn't mean it is too strong.

Both meters are not true measures of signal strength but the channel strengths are relative to each other for the Dish receiver and relative for the TV but not relative between the Dish and TV. In other words, a 50 on the Dish is not the same as a 50 on the TV.

If you are getting Jackson sometimes, perhaps your antenna isn't aimed correctly. The Jackson tower would be the furthest east of the others obviously.

Slolearner
07-15-09, 02:43 PM
Well, I see that channel 10 also goes from 100 (picture) to 40 or below and no picture. So in essence you loose 5, 10 and 13 between the 2 tuners. It is interesting that these 3 towers are all west of the other towers and 5 is the furthest west.

It is possible that the TV tuner is more sensitive thus allowing you to pick up 5 and 13 with 10 being too strong. Too strong will not peg 100, it will waiver the signal because the tuner can not lock onto it. However, just because a signal waivers doesn't mean it is too strong.

Both meters are not true measures of signal strength but the channel strengths are relative to each other for the Dish receiver and relative for the TV but not relative between the Dish and TV. In other words, a 50 on the Dish is not the same as a 50 on the TV.

If you are getting Jackson sometimes, perhaps your antenna isn't aimed correctly. The Jackson tower would be the furthest east of the others obviously.

Do you have a VIP622 receiving WMC-5 and WHBQ-13 OTA?

Slolearner
07-15-09, 02:48 PM
Well, I see that channel 10 also goes from 100 (picture) to 40 or below and no picture. So in essence you loose 5, 10 and 13 between the 2 tuners. ....

NOTE: The TV MENU shows the RF channel numbers (i.e. 10.1= RF 29) so it appears to have the same signal strenghts as 5 and 13

Also I have the antenna pointed @ 270°, due west.

hdtvluvr
07-15-09, 02:48 PM
Do you have a VIP622 receiving WMC-5 and WHBQ-13 OTA?

No, I have DirecTV. I didn't get 5 and 13 after the switch until I did a rescan.

Arkyman
07-15-09, 02:49 PM
Boy, was I ever picking up the Memphis Market here in Yell county Arkansas last night....bout 300 miles....not bad. I was getting WREG 3.1 , WMC 5.1 & WKNO10.1 at about 70-85%. Kept them most of the night. Here is a link to some screen shots of my Dxing last night. Pulled these in on a Winegard 8200 w/cm7777. Antenna is only about 18 feet high but for some reason thats my "hot spot". I've had it up 40+ before and never had the reception I do at 18 feet. If any of you want, check out your channels on my TV in the Little Rock thread:D

dogpoobob
07-16-09, 06:41 PM
FYI, I'm unable to receive channels 5 or 13 OTA (attic mount Philips SDV7400K/17 UHF/VHF/FM/HDTV) through a Dishnetwork VIP622 reciever.

Dish's tech support say they are working on these channels but I was curious if anyone else was having this same problem?

I am in Tipton County and I receive both OTA great on my VIP622.

In your signal strength post, you don't list 5 or 13. Both are transmitting on their VHF frequencies now. Sounds like you didn't get a good rescan.

Gary*w*
08-16-09, 12:08 PM
New article in the CA about U-Verse coming soon!

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/16/att-enters-television-market/

Kfcosby
08-17-09, 11:04 AM
According to the MBJ this morning:

"AT&T will officially unveil its U-Verse advanced television product in Memphis starting Monday."

mx6bfast
08-17-09, 12:37 PM
I just had a new receiver installed by D* yesterday. Arghhhh!

jbburks
08-17-09, 01:35 PM
Just went by the AT&T store on Hacks Cross Road. They are selling U-verse, but don't have it for display. They looked up my address in Collierville, and said service wasn't available yet. And, no indication of when it will be.

Anyone got U-verse yet in Memphis>

Kfcosby
08-17-09, 03:16 PM
I looked up 38135 (Bartlett) and mine comes up...

Gary*w*
08-17-09, 03:35 PM
I looked up my address in midtown today and it's not available here yet either.

Tom Thomas
08-17-09, 05:06 PM
I looked up my address in midtown today and it's not available here yet either.

I looked up my zip in Walls, MS (just outside Memphis) and it shows available...

locomo
08-19-09, 02:58 AM
SSh, dont tell anyone, but at least Comcast will have some competition:

Verizon rebuilt their infrastructure to provide truly state of the art, nearly limitless bandwidth with fiber to the premises (FTTP). When newer, faster switches and wave division multiplexers become available, Fios can increase bandwidth significantly without replacing fiber lines.

AT&T on the other hand tried to do things on the cheap. They designed a system that squeezes the last ounce of performance out of legacy thin copper wires. U-Verse will go from 2 HD-Lite streams to 3 even worse looking HD-Lite streams by cranking up the compression. The results are not pretty.

AT&T's strategy was penny wise, pound foolish. They have lower capital expenditures up front. However, the bulk of the cost of a system rebuild is not copper thin wire or fiber optic cable, it is the labor cost to do the project in the first place. U-Verse is built in such a way that it almost guarantees that AT&T will have to tear out lines and completely rebuild their network again in 5 - 12 years. Verizon on the other hand can simply replace switching equipment at the node and place more capable modems in consumers' homes as needed. Verizon already has laid fiber that can fulfill foreseeable bandwidth demands for the next 20 or 30 years.:cool:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17002640#post17002640

Kfcosby
08-19-09, 09:03 AM
SSh, dont tell anyone, but at least Comcast will have some competition:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17002640#post17002640

Verison FiOS is in Memphis ???

mx6bfast
08-19-09, 11:18 AM
Verison FiOS is in Memphis ???
No, it was just a link to another post.

Fios would be very nice here.

Kfcosby
08-19-09, 05:48 PM
No, it was just a link to another post.

Fios would be very nice here.

Agreed !!

locomo
08-21-09, 02:41 AM
No, it was just a link to another post.

Fios would be very nice here.

You phrased it much better than myself.
It's definitely not Fios, but anything to get Comcast a little worried, has got to be a good thing.

HDTV_Duffus
09-07-09, 09:44 AM
Anyone in this area received the update from D* to enable DoublePlay (dual live buffers)?

mx6bfast
09-07-09, 02:38 PM
No, still waiting....very much wanting.

Kfcosby
09-08-09, 01:53 PM
Anyone in this area received the update from D* to enable DoublePlay (dual live buffers)?

Still waiting....

Here's a short video on DoublePlay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jb87jiFE7c

Kevin

ScottPo
09-14-09, 02:05 PM
For the last couple of months, the primary camera angle for baseball and now football looks like it's shot in a different frame rate on Fox HD. It stutters, like every few frames is being dropped. Anybody else been seeing this? Anybody from Fox 13 know anything? I'm using a SA 8300HD on Comcast.

Thanks.

mx6bfast
09-14-09, 02:48 PM
For the last couple of months, the primary camera angle for baseball and now football looks like it's shot in a different frame rate on Fox HD. It stutters, like every few frames is being dropped. Anybody else been seeing this? Anybody from Fox 13 know anything? I'm using a SA 8300HD on Comcast.
Are you talking about something like in this thread, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1163878? Personally I haven't seen it, but I haven't payed close attention to the sporting events on FOX.

billclay
09-14-09, 04:14 PM
Hello all,

I live in Hernando, MS (zip 38632) about 25 miles south of Memphis, TN. I have a HR22 receiver with an AM21 for my OTA signals. I mounted a "Winegard HD-1080 2-Bay Bowtie UHF - High Band VHF Antenna (HD-1080)" in my attic but I am only receiving a limited number of OTA signals. My channels 3(cbs), 10 18(pbs), 24(abc), 40(tbn), 50(ion) all come in very well. Unfortunately, my channels 5(nbc), and 13(fox) do not come in at all.

Is there any way I can add another antenna to work together with my existing to pick up my missing channels? If so, do I use some kind of a splitter?

Or, should I invest in a different antenna altogether?

Thanks.

-My zip code is 38632

mx6bfast
09-15-09, 07:51 AM
Got the dlb software update overnight.

Kfcosby
09-15-09, 09:03 AM
Hi Bill

The bowtie antenna is good for UHF signals. You would have been able to receive channels 5 and 13 before "the big switch" because they were broadcasting on their temporary UHF channels. Now they have switched back to the VHF assignments, so you will need a multi-band antenna to receive 5 & 13.

Hope this helps!

Kevin

Hello all,

I live in Hernando, MS (zip 38632) about 25 miles south of Memphis, TN. I have a HR22 receiver with an AM21 for my OTA signals. I mounted a "Winegard HD-1080 2-Bay Bowtie UHF - High Band VHF Antenna (HD-1080)" in my attic but I am only receiving a limited number of OTA signals. My channels 3(cbs), 10 18(pbs), 24(abc), 40(tbn), 50(ion) all come in very well. Unfortunately, my channels 5(nbc), and 13(fox) do not come in at all.

Is there any way I can add another antenna to work together with my existing to pick up my missing channels? If so, do I use some kind of a splitter?

Or, should I invest in a different antenna altogether?

Thanks.

-My zip code is 38632

Kfcosby
09-15-09, 09:04 AM
Got the dlb software update overnight.

Good news, I'll have to check when I get home !

Thanks for the heads up !!!

Kevin

mx6bfast
09-15-09, 10:20 AM
Good news, I'll have to check when I get home !

Thanks for the heads up !!!
No problem. 2 easy ways to tell are: When you turn on the HD-DVR it wasn't already buffered, or when you click Menu you have an option for TVMAIL.

DTV Dave
09-15-09, 10:21 AM
Hello all,

I live in Hernando, MS (zip 38632) about 25 miles south of Memphis, TN. I have a HR22 receiver with an AM21 for my OTA signals. I mounted a "Winegard HD-1080 2-Bay Bowtie UHF - High Band VHF Antenna (HD-1080)" in my attic but I am only receiving a limited number of OTA signals. My channels 3(cbs), 10 18(pbs), 24(abc), 40(tbn), 50(ion) all come in very well. Unfortunately, my channels 5(nbc), and 13(fox) do not come in at all.

Is there any way I can add another antenna to work together with my existing to pick up my missing channels? If so, do I use some kind of a splitter?


You can add a VHF-only antenna to the mix (if you have the room in your attic!). You will want to get a band combiner (the same thing as a band splitter, but put in backwards) to put both VHF and UHF on the same coax without distorting the signal. Just using a regular combiner (splitter) will cause problems with both signals. The band combiner should have a VHF connector, and UHF connector and a combined connector.

Although using two different antennas can be a pain, it does have the advantage of allowing you to point them in different directions to avoid reflections that may be in different locations on VHF and UHF.

ScottPo
09-15-09, 11:15 AM
Are you talking about something like in this thread,(link deleted) personally I haven't seen it, but I haven't payed close attention to the sporting events on FOX.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, after 10 pages nobody seems to know for sure what's going on. Is there still a Fox13 tech hanging out around here?

mx6bfast
09-15-09, 11:36 AM
Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, after 10 pages nobody seems to know for sure what's going on. Is there still a Fox13 tech hanging out around here?
DTV Dave right above your post is the engineer at WHBQ.

Kfcosby
09-15-09, 12:08 PM
I noticed this "studdering" last night watching House OTA on my HR-20...


For the last couple of months, the primary camera angle for baseball and now football looks like it's shot in a different frame rate on Fox HD. It stutters, like every few frames is being dropped. Anybody else been seeing this? Anybody from Fox 13 know anything? I'm using a SA 8300HD on Comcast.

Thanks.

lmeredith
09-15-09, 05:23 PM
Hello all,

I live in Hernando, MS (zip 38632) about 25 miles south of Memphis, TN. I have a HR22 receiver with an AM21 for my OTA signals. I mounted a "Winegard HD-1080 2-Bay Bowtie UHF - High Band VHF Antenna (HD-1080)" in my attic but I am only receiving a limited number of OTA signals. My channels 3(cbs), 10 18(pbs), 24(abc), 40(tbn), 50(ion) all come in very well. Unfortunately, my channels 5(nbc), and 13(fox) do not come in at all.

Is there any way I can add another antenna to work together with my existing to pick up my missing channels? If so, do I use some kind of a splitter?

Or, should I invest in a different antenna altogether?

Thanks.

-My zip code is 38632
WMC-TV 5 does have a supply of midrange and rabbit ears style antennas that we are providing to people who are still having difficulty receiving our signal. I'm not sure if the midrange antenna will get the job done in Hernando, but it might. Please contact us at dtv@wmctv.com or call us at 901-726-0472 or 877-287-9958 and we'll see if we can get you fixed up.

--Lee Meredith, WMC-TV 5

DTV Dave
09-16-09, 10:28 AM
WMC-TV 5 does have a supply of midrange and rabbit ears style antennas that we are providing to people who are still having difficulty receiving our signal. I'm not sure if the midrange antenna will get the job done in Hernando, but it might. Please contact us at dtv@wmctv.com or call us at 901-726-0472 or 877-287-9958 and we'll see if we can get you fixed up.

--Lee Meredith, WMC-TV 5

The mid-range VHF antenna should work fine in Hernando. I live there, and found that the rabbit-ear VHF antennas are not quite good enough, but placing the smaller of the two outdoor antennas that Radio Shack sells in my attic was plenty to receive 5 and 13 with lots of margin to spare.

The only down-side of using an antenna in my attic is that when the cold weather comes and the gas furnace comes on (it's right next to the antenna), the electric igniter will probably cause the picture to lock up for a second or two. I think I can live with this for the advantage of having the antenna out of the wind and rain. It should last just about forever up there (as long as I don't trip over it to change the filters).

mx6bfast
09-16-09, 04:04 PM
The HD PQ of SEC games on WLMT have been atrocious so far.

ScottPo
09-16-09, 04:10 PM
DTVDave,
Could you address the stuttering picture problem I mentioned above during Fox sports HD telecasts? It seems based on the link provided after that post that MANY people nationwide are noticing the problem. What the heck is it?

HDTV_Duffus
09-16-09, 07:10 PM
Got the dlb software update overnight.

I received it in Midtown as well:)

HDTV_Duffus
09-16-09, 07:13 PM
Hi Bill

The bowtie antenna is good for UHF signals. You would have been able to receive channels 5 and 13 before "the big switch" because they were broadcasting on their temporary UHF channels. Now they have switched back to the VHF assignments, so you will need a multi-band antenna to receive 5 & 13.

Hope this helps!

Kevin

Kevin,

I have a bowtie in the attic in midtown and I'm getting all local signals. I know I shouldn't, but I'm not questioning success! Maybe some of you engineer types can offer an explanation.

BCF68
09-16-09, 07:21 PM
Kevin,

I have a bowtie in the attic in midtown and I'm getting all local signals. I know I shouldn't, but I'm not questioning success! Maybe some of you engineer types can offer an explanation.

A bow tie can get in a VHF signal at least VHF high. I have a homemade DB4 than can pick up UHF 8 and UHF 10( in Nashvile ) on occasion and I live 70 miles from the stations. So certainly a bowtie can pick up VHF 13.

hdtvluvr
09-16-09, 08:08 PM
I live north of Memphis and use an original Winegard CM 4228 (not the new HD version) installed in the attic and I get all of the Memphis locals including channel 5.

I was pleasantly surprised when analog 5 (which I couldn't get) went dark and the digital signal on VHF 5 showed up. I thought I was going to have to change antenna's to get the new 5.

BTW, from everything I've read the CM 4228 has been modified and labelled HD. This latest version apparently doesn't work well below 13.

DTV Dave
09-17-09, 10:07 AM
DTVDave,
Could you address the stuttering picture problem I mentioned above during Fox sports HD telecasts? It seems based on the link provided after that post that MANY people nationwide are noticing the problem. What the heck is it?

It sounds as if they have at least one camera set with a slow shutter speed. They sometimes do that for a "film" effect, but I wouldn't think that it would be good for sporting events. It's also possible that there is some sort of new gizmo that they're experimenting with that's screwing up the video.

I've passed the word of the problem up the line to the Fox Network, but they are separate from the Fox-owned stations, so I probably won't hear back from them. I'm sure that there is a contact email on the Fox Sports site, and the more people that send them a description of the problem the better!

DTV Dave
09-17-09, 10:25 AM
Kevin,

I have a bowtie in the attic in midtown and I'm getting all local signals. I know I shouldn't, but I'm not questioning success! Maybe some of you engineer types can offer an explanation.

If the bowtie is in a strong field (midtown is pretty good), and high enough (in an attic), even it can act as a VHF antenna. It's just not a very good one. If the signal is strong enough, even a piece of wire can be enough (coat hangers do work).

Your UHF antenna might have 20dB of gain (over a tuned dipole) in the middle of the UHF band, but probably has -12 dB of gain (or 12 dB of loss) in the VHF band. If the signal is strong enough, it can overcome that loss and the receiver will work just fine. You just won't have as much margin for variations in signal caused by weather or noise from other sources as you would using an antenna with higher VHF gain (or lower VHF loss).

The bottom line is: whatever works is good - even it it's tin foil on the ends of rabbit ears!

HDTV_Duffus
09-18-09, 07:46 AM
If the bowtie is in a strong field (midtown is pretty good), and high enough (in an attic), even it can act as a VHF antenna. It's just not a very good one. If the signal is strong enough, even a piece of wire can be enough (coat hangers do work).

Your UHF antenna might have 20dB of gain (over a tuned dipole) in the middle of the UHF band, but probably has -12 dB of gain (or 12 dB of loss) in the VHF band. If the signal is strong enough, it can overcome that loss and the receiver will work just fine. You just won't have as much margin for variations in signal caused by weather or noise from other sources as you would using an antenna with higher VHF gain (or lower VHF loss).

The bottom line is: whatever works is good - even it it's tin foil on the ends of rabbit ears!

Dave,

I think I understand the last sentence :)
I don't have much margin for error on 5 (i.e. temporary pixilation in rainy weather), but it is not bothersome enough to make me add an antenna.
Thanks

PatrickGSR94
09-19-09, 08:21 AM
WMC-TV 5 does have a supply of midrange and rabbit ears style antennas that we are providing to people who are still having difficulty receiving our signal. I'm not sure if the midrange antenna will get the job done in Hernando, but it might. Please contact us at dtv@wmctv.com or call us at 901-726-0472 or 877-287-9958 and we'll see if we can get you fixed up.

--Lee Meredith, WMC-TV 5

I live in Southaven and get all local channels thru my D* 5-LNB dish, all in HD except WLMT. Are the local HD's not available thru the dish in Hernando?

The HD PQ of SEC games on WLMT have been atrocious so far.

When oh when will WLMT HD come thru the dish?? I don't really want to add any other components (AM21, my old antenna, etc) to get it.

PatrickGSR94
09-20-09, 11:10 AM
Has anyone noticed the sound volume fluctuating on D*, on several different channels? I have an HR-22 100 HD DVR and I've noticed the sound fluctuating pretty bad on both local and other stations. NBC, Food Network, and others. It happens both during programing and during commercials.

DTV Dave
09-22-09, 12:34 PM
Any "Glee" fans out there notice something strange last Wednesday night with the aspect ratio? At the Atlanta Fox station, a viewer reports that on Dish Network he saw the aspect ratio change from the normal letter-box (he must have an SD receiver) to a center-cut display at 8:44 PM, after a local break. Fox reports no trouble, but the station's air-check tape confirms that it happened. I know you guys use HD, but if you noticed anything strange, it might give us a hint to what is going on.
Thanks,

mx6bfast
09-22-09, 02:39 PM
I use OTA where possible and didn't notice anything last week.

mx6bfast
09-23-09, 12:47 PM
I did notice a few times last night during Hell's Kitchen the commercial break would run into programming. It seemed to always be during a local commercial. The WHBQ bug would show up in the bottom right corner for a few seconds, then the show would come back on at 4:3 for a second and then go back to WS.

ScottPo
09-23-09, 04:52 PM
It sounds as if they have at least one camera set with a slow shutter speed. They sometimes do that for a "film" effect, but I wouldn't think that it would be good for sporting events. It's also possible that there is some sort of new gizmo that they're experimenting with that's screwing up the video.

I've passed the word of the problem up the line to the Fox Network, but they are separate from the Fox-owned stations, so I probably won't hear back from them. I'm sure that there is a contact email on the Fox Sports site, and the more people that send them a description of the problem the better!

Thanks for sending the information up. FYI, the following was posted on the main thread on this issue the other night by a tech at WCCB in Charlotte:

Originally Posted by bdfox18doe
It is being worked on by FOX, Cisco, TWC, WCCB, and others..all together.
This is not something one can wave a magic wand and magically correct.

DTV Dave
09-24-09, 10:08 AM
I did notice a few times last night during Hell's Kitchen the commercial break would run into programming. It seemed to always be during a local commercial. The WHBQ bug would show up in the bottom right corner for a few seconds, then the show would come back on at 4:3 for a second and then go back to WS.

Unfortunately, we know the cause of that one. The network changed the amount of local commercial time in two of the breaks at the last minute, so we had too many commercials in the breaks. This means that we came back to the network late, while they were already into the program segment.

The change in aspect ratio for a couple of seconds is the delay between our live switching and the splicer switching. Usually it would occur in black, and nobody would notice, but when something like this happens, it becomes obvious. That should change with the installation of "Splicer 2.0” that is rolling out now. The new splicer will also be redundant, getting rid of the only single point of failure we have. We will end up with two completely independent signal paths all the way to the antenna!

jbburks
09-25-09, 07:09 PM
Comcast is still semi-supporting HD on cable-ready (without box).

However, WREG, 3-1, disappeared last week. The telephone support rep had no idea you could get HD without a Comcast set-top box. She agreed to forward to the head end tech staff.

It would be nice if they would pass through the locals consistently.

And, my line still isn't qualified for uVerse. Anyone had experience with uVerse, either good or bad?

MarkDu
09-26-09, 11:40 AM
And, my line still isn't qualified for uVerse. Anyone had experience with uVerse, either good or bad?

I live in Southaven and uVerse is available here. However, it has a 3/1 stream. Meaning 3 SD streams and 1 HD stream. I have to have 2 HD streams, so it's not for me. In Memphis you might be lucky to get the 2/2 stream.

Mark

mx6bfast
09-28-09, 12:09 PM
I noticed the briipp on WHBQ pretty bad during the news last night and this morning.

mx6bfast
09-28-09, 12:51 PM
Has anyone had any problems with losing OTA signal from WMC or WHBQ since the most recent dl on the HR20's? I've noticed the signal meter will read 0, but like last night even though it read 0, when I went to the program that is being recorded from that OTA station there will be audio/video like there wasn't a problem. I can go back into the signal meter when I go have a signal and it's solid in the 70's.

Kfcosby
09-29-09, 09:42 AM
I haven't been watching the signal meter, but I have noticed that the signals are more stable since the changeover. I also attributed some of this to a newer antenna in the attic in lieu of a dipole behind the set...

Kevin

Has anyone had any problems with losing OTA signal from WMC or WHBQ since the most recent dl on the HR20's? I've noticed the signal meter will read 0, but like last night even though it read 0, when I went to the program that is being recorded from that OTA station there will be audio/video like there wasn't a problem. I can go back into the signal meter when I go have a signal and it's solid in the 70's.

PatrickGSR94
10-02-09, 10:10 PM
ahhhh CBS audio is fluctuating soooo bad right now, I have D*. Anyone else experiencing this at all? SUPER annoying!

mx6bfast
10-02-09, 11:22 PM
ahhhh CBS audio is fluctuating soooo bad right now, I have D*. Anyone else experiencing this at all? SUPER annoying!
I noticed it the other day.

energy812
10-05-09, 05:57 PM
I've noticed that WPXX-TV (My 50 Memphis) dropped My Network TV and is now Ion Television (I guess that is because ion owns the station). What will happen to My Network TV? Do you think another station in Memphis will add it to its digital sub-channel or will we just not have an affiliate anymore??

Trip in VA
10-05-09, 06:14 PM
I would suspect another station will add it. My guess is that it could show up on 30-2 with RTV, since co-owned WAWS in Jacksonville does the same thing.

- Trip

brainwaver
10-09-09, 07:13 AM
I noticed the briipp on WHBQ pretty bad during the news last night and this morning.

The last two nights the brriips are almost unbearable on Fox 13 news which also caused severe lip sync. Is this a problem of DirecTV or Fox 13? Thanks!

Gary*w*
10-09-09, 10:48 AM
Watched both Bones and Fringe via the DirecTV feed of WHBQ last night and while Bones was fine, Fringe was nearly unwatchable due to the brriiip audio problem.

Kfcosby
10-09-09, 10:55 AM
The last two nights the brriips are almost unbearable on Fox 13 news which also caused severe lip sync. Is this a problem of DirecTV or Fox 13? Thanks!


Usually it is DirecTV.
What is happening is the DirecTV MPEG-4 encoder is "dumping" and having to reset as it is transcoding the MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 at the uplink center.

This seems to happen to HD locals more than national channels.
If the locals are doing this, you can tune into the OTA feed and sometimes see it there too, but usually you will not. This doesn't mean the station isn't the cause/source. Their feed may have corrupted bits that do not affect the playback of the MPEG-2 stream, but it's bad enough to cause the MPEG-4 encoder to reset.

tscallions
10-09-09, 12:20 PM
I too had the problem with Fox 13 last night on Fringe. Drove me insane! And what was getting worse and worse throughout the show! By the end I was so pissed that I could barely watch the show.

Aro
10-09-09, 12:26 PM
I watched it OTA, and had no issues at all. So definitely a DirecTV issue.

mx6bfast
10-12-09, 03:51 PM
With the election coming up Thursday I hope that the local stations don't screw up the national programming to show minute by minute updates of the race. WPTY completely ruined Grey's Anatomy for my wife Thursday by showing their 1920's map with a grey background (no overlay) and cutting out the center speaker for over 10 minutes.

I hope that updates are provided during commercials. WHBQ is good about this, and usually WPTY is. Cutting out of HD, scrunching the show to a small box while showing ELECTION 2009 on the left side of the screen and a constant ticker which only updates every 10+ minutes is just freaking annoying. Use the HD ticker technology sparingly. We will find out who won the election. Telling us at 8:30 with 10% of the precincts reported is a waste.

There, I got it out. Whew!

Kfcosby
10-13-09, 09:17 AM
With the election coming up Thursday I hope that the local stations don't screw up the national programming to show minute by minute updates of the race.

I couldn't agree more! Now with all of the subchannels available there should be no reason that they couldn't devote one of them to all the detailed coverage they wish and preserve the network programming for the rest.

Kevin

Kfcosby
10-14-09, 09:22 AM
The reason some stations don't show election coverage on subchannels is because some subchannels are not available on Satelite and Cable.

I understand this and for w-2-w severe weather coverage I support using the main channel for that coverage, but for something like election coverage I believe that should be pushed out to a sub, or online for that matter, and advertised as such.

Just my 2 cents....

DTV Dave
10-14-09, 11:29 AM
I too had the problem with Fox 13 last night on Fringe. Drove me insane! And what was getting worse and worse throughout the show! By the end I was so pissed that I could barely watch the show.

It's definitely a DirecTV problem. When we are on Fox, the transport stream all the way to the transmitter is just as it left the Fox uplink in LA, due to the use of the splicer. It should affect all Fox stations at the same time if it is a problem with the Fox stream. That being said, I don't think anyone has nailed down the cause of this yet, but there are lots of people at the network, the local stations and at DirecTV working on it.

On a side note, occasionally the local Dish Network local-into-local receivers get into a mode that screws up the lip sync. This requires a reset of their head-end receiver, not the customer's receiver. This is usually caused by an interruption in the stream, such as when we change encoders for maintenance. We also see this on our TV sets here - some will have the lip sync problem and some will not. Usually turning them off then back on clears them. The receivers that Dish uses at their head-ends probably have the same problem.

nick1817
10-14-09, 01:52 PM
I recently got out of an aprtment with some awful proprietary cable (direcpath) and the house I'm in had Comcast in it. A few questions about Comcast service, since i've never had it-

* It seems over the past week I've lost either Ch. 5 Hd or Ch. 13. I thought signal drops were a Sat. problem? Is this common or a symptom of the cable run to this house?

* Why the hell am I paying $7 for HD access/outlet PLUS $17 for DVR service? Two HD DVR's adds about $40 a month?

* They must recycle the heck out of these HD DVRs, because I have one that is dented and has a noisy HD in it.

* Why aren't the menu's HD? Seems like an easy fix...

* Overall, how is comcast service in Memphis?

I was a little put off when I went in, had to pay the first month of service, plus $100 deposit for each HD-DVR. Totalled almost $400..

I know D* makes you "buy" their boxes, so I guess really thats a wash...

Aro
10-15-09, 08:11 AM
* It seems over the past week I've lost either Ch. 5 Hd or Ch. 13. I thought signal drops were a Sat. problem? Is this common or a symptom of the cable run to this house?

I used to have that happen to certain channels on the same frequency band. Usually it's line interference of some kind. If you call them and explain it, they'll send a tech out to check.

* Why the hell am I paying $7 for HD access/outlet PLUS $17 for DVR service? Two HD DVR's adds about $40 a month?

Wow... the prices went way up. I was paying $5 for the DVR and HD used to be free. The one thing about Comcast is, you can negotiate with them, especially if you threaten to go to satellite. Just get the latest advertisement for DirecTV or Dish out, and ask the rep why you'd stay with Comcast. They'll usually give you a pretty good deal.

* They must recycle the heck out of these HD DVRs, because I have one that is dented and has a noisy HD in it.

Both of my boxes were brand new, but then I got them when each model first came out. It wouldn't surprise me if they were recycling them. Keep in mind that if you leave Comcast, they will NOT come pick the boxes up, and will keep billing you full price until you go down and turn them in yourself.

* Why aren't the menu's HD? Seems like an easy fix...

Because Comcast in Memphis elected to keep the crappy Scientific Atlanta cable boxes from Time Warner, which have used the same menu style for at least a decade, literally. SA stuff is horribly outdated, slim on features and really buggy. But it's cheap, which is what the cable providers like.

* Overall, how is comcast service in Memphis?

Was a customer for 6 years. Terribly overpriced, especially after their "specials" run out. HD channel offerings are/were pathetic compared to satellite. Service itself wasn't bad, and OnDemand was nice. Rarely had an outage, but that varies from area to area.

I was a little put off when I went in, had to pay the first month of service, plus $100 deposit for each HD-DVR. Totalled almost $400..

I know D* makes you "buy" their boxes, so I guess really thats a wash...

Wow... I didn't have to do anything like that for either of my boxes. When do they give you your money back?

Satellite may make you buy the boxes, but they usually have so many first-time buyer specials, that it almost always ends up being free or close to it.

nick1817
10-15-09, 09:10 AM
The "deposits" credit on the bill after 6 months.

I absolutley loved D* when I had it, but the house is in a pretty wooded part of G'town. Not sure I can get a clear LOS.

Plus, I need internet, and I see Comcast charges you almost double the rate if you're an internet customer only (60 bucks?)

DTV Dave
10-15-09, 10:07 AM
* It seems over the past week I've lost either Ch. 5 Hd or Ch. 13. I thought signal drops were a Sat. problem? Is this common or a symptom of the cable run to this house?


That's usually a symptom of bad connectors or cable in the house. You might check that all connections in the wall (behind the wall plate if you have a jack there) or at any splitters (sometimes in the attic) are tight and secure. You can usually tell if they were professionally done because the crimp will be symmetrical and clean. Bad ones will look as if they were crimped with a pair of pliers. Screw-on connectors are also suspect. For some reason, this problem can knock out one or two digital channels (actually two streams on the same channel), but leave the adjacent ones working fine. I couldn't make something to do this if I tried!

mx6bfast
10-15-09, 10:47 AM
Plus, I need internet, and I see Comcast charges you almost double the rate if you're an internet customer only (60 bucks?)
49.95, no tax

DTV Dave
10-15-09, 03:53 PM
With the election coming up Thursday I hope that the local stations don't screw up the national programming to show minute by minute updates of the race.

I think you'll be pleased!

DTV Dave
10-15-09, 03:59 PM
I couldn't agree more! Now with all of the subchannels available there should be no reason that they couldn't devote one of them to all the detailed coverage they wish and preserve the network programming for the rest.

Kevin
The problem with sub-channels is that the FCC requires that you provide that channel with its own children's programming every week, as well as a bunch of reporting and paperwork requirements, just like the main channel.

Unless the sub-channel can bring in some considerable money, it's not worth it. And we know what it does to the main channel bit rate (although that's not such a problem with 720p). It's a shame - it could be used for extended weather and news event coverage to keep it off of the main channel for those who don't want to see it.

Aro
10-15-09, 09:59 PM
Who is the complete and utter IDIOT at WHBQ who decided to cut into Fringe in the last 5 minutes of the show and cut off the ending?

Aro
10-15-09, 10:02 PM
I think you'll be pleased!

So much for that claim.

Kfcosby
10-16-09, 08:58 AM
The problem with sub-channels is that the FCC requires that you provide that channel with its own children's programming every week, as well as a bunch of reporting and paperwork requirements, just like the main channel.

Unless the sub-channel can bring in some considerable money, it's not worth it. And we know what it does to the main channel bit rate (although that's not such a problem with 720p). It's a shame - it could be used for extended weather and news event coverage to keep it off of the main channel for those who don't want to see it.

Well it is a new way of doing things, and we're early in the game. I can remember similar "complaints" about those damn FM channels sucking the AM's side revenue down :)

Kevin

Gary*w*
10-16-09, 09:05 AM
Not cool at all: Cutting the last 5 min. of Fringe! You couldn't hold off til YOUR LOCAL NEWSCAST STARTED IN 5 MINUTES!

not pleased at all.

Aro
10-16-09, 10:48 AM
I'm still mad about this. Stupidest thing I've seen a Memphis station do since WPTY cut off the end of a Lost episode a few years ago to tell us about a possible severe thunderstorm in some uninhabited county in Arkansas.

mx6bfast
10-16-09, 07:33 PM
Actually, they cut to the news at 8:50. Luckily it's online.

Agree, not cool at all. Tonight WPTY did the best since they didn't cut into programming at all. I haven't seen CSI yet and don't tivo anything from WMC.

wiggo
10-16-09, 10:38 PM
But thanks to all for posting here, so I knew to get my copy of Fringe from somewhere other than my TiVo. You guys saved at least one person from the same frustration, so thanks!

mx6bfast
10-16-09, 10:48 PM
But thanks to all for posting here, so I knew to get my copy of Fringe from somewhere other than my TiVo. You guys saved at least one person from the same frustration, so thanks!
Good ending. :)

DTV Dave
10-19-09, 10:27 AM
So much for that claim.

I was referring to the lack of squeezed back, postage-stamped programming and election graphics on the HD feed. I had no idea about chopping the Fringe ending (I was caught yelling at my TV, too!). I didn't know about it until it happened.

Sorry!

Gary*w*
10-19-09, 11:36 AM
I was referring to the lack of squeezed back, postage-stamped programming and election graphics on the HD feed. I had no idea about chopping the Fringe ending (I was caught yelling at my TV, too!). I didn't know about it until it happened.

Sorry!


That was good I enjoyed Bones much more because of that. :)

home_theatre_man
10-21-09, 01:08 PM
It's definitely a DirecTV problem. When we are on Fox, the transport stream all the way to the transmitter is just as it left the Fox uplink in LA, due to the use of the splicer. It should affect all Fox stations at the same time if it is a problem with the Fox stream. That being said, I don't think anyone has nailed down the cause of this yet, but there are lots of people at the network, the local stations and at DirecTV working on it.FWIW, I haven't noticed this so far on any of the FOX NFL games...WHBQ via D* or NFL Sunday Ticket.

DTV Dave
10-22-09, 10:52 AM
FWIW, I haven't noticed this so far on any of the FOX NFL games...WHBQ via D* or NFL Sunday Ticket.

Some of my counterparts at other Fox stations have reported some disturbances in the MLB broadcasts this past week, but these appear to be different from the other problems (video pixelization and audio burp). With this one, the signal either locks up or goes black for a few seconds. The problem has been isolated to the Motorola receivers that we all use, so they should have a code fix for it soon. We may get lucky and find that this also fixes the other problems!

anthony.j
11-03-09, 10:51 AM
Hello everyone...
Can I survery this forum about what brand and model of OTA antenna do you use?

I am thinking of cutting my DirecTV subs and just going OTA since most channels we watch are local and if not, we can watch it online.

I am located in the Bartlett area around Ellis Rd. and Germantown Rd. towards Hwy 70. I am thinking of installing the antenna in my attic and would like to use it with 3 tv's, 1 with a built in tuner and 2 with dtv converters.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Kfcosby
11-03-09, 02:51 PM
You'll love this one... I am using a set of rabbit ears feeding into an amplified distribution amp, feeding 4 TV's

Full signal, all the time, in Bartlett, close to Whitten and Memphis Arlington.


Kevin

Hello everyone...
Can I survery this forum about what brand and model of OTA antenna do you use?

I am thinking of cutting my DirecTV subs and just going OTA since most channels we watch are local and if not, we can watch it online.

I am located in the Bartlett area around Ellis Rd. and Germantown Rd. towards Hwy 70. I am thinking of installing the antenna in my attic and would like to use it with 3 tv's, 1 with a built in tuner and 2 with dtv converters.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

mx6bfast
11-06-09, 10:58 AM
Is anyone else ticked off that WREG is dropping down to SD to tell us what we are watching and pimp a news story coming on at the 10 pm news?

mx6bfast
11-11-09, 08:36 AM
Looks like we got some new local HD's from D*.

WKNO 10
WMAV 18
WLMT 30

Rthoreau
11-11-09, 09:21 AM
You'll love this one... I am using a set of rabbit ears feeding into an amplified distribution amp, feeding 4 TV's

Full signal, all the time, in Bartlett, close to Whitten and Memphis Arlington.
Kevin

I have crap reception and use rabbit ears, but I live over by the golf course and live on a hill, which on the bottom level I am probably getting some ground reflection. I ought to put it in the attic, but I only rent and as long as my wife can get her pvr working she is happy, which makes me happy.

Besides with hulu, and the internet not much of what you need is missed. I think that the receiver in my pvr an hvr 1800, is better than what is in my TV, or those digital boxes as I don't get drop outs.

Nothing better than on a sunday afternoon putting on the national parks and reading a good book.

bigmikemac
11-11-09, 11:54 AM
Yee haw!!! Just when I had about decided to look into Uverse when my D* commitment is up at the end of december. Are there anymore SEC games on ch 30 this year? I know CBS has a double header this week

mx6bfast
11-11-09, 01:18 PM
Yee haw!!! Just when I had about decided to look into Uverse when my D* commitment is up at the end of december. Are there anymore SEC games on ch 30 this year? I know CBS has a double header this week
I would guess 3 or 4, until the sec regular season is over.

Kfcosby
11-11-09, 04:49 PM
Finally !!!!

looks like we got some new local hd's from d*.

Wkno 10
wmav 18
wlmt 30

bgoering
11-12-09, 07:29 PM
Looks like we got some new local HD's from D*.

WKNO 10
WMAV 18
WLMT 30

Great - thanks for the heads up - I am particularly happy to see WLMT 30..

PatrickGSR94
11-15-09, 09:06 AM
oh yeah! We've been missing WLMT HD ever since we got an HD DVR with no OTA antenna connection on it. All I have to say is, it's about time!

xABD
11-24-09, 05:16 PM
All TVs are currently CRTs but one has started to lose the color control, circular rings of pink, green with only the extreme top corners showing true colors. So, an LCD is coming in the near future. I've been told by Comcrap that the new HD boxes will NOT work with non-HD sets. Anyone confirm? If that's so, I'll just stay with the one non-HD cable box! I'd chuck the whole thing were it not for my wife and her favorite channels! 8-)

Thanks

xABD
11-24-09, 05:18 PM
Rabbit ears are not hacking it for HD OTA, at least with an un-powered set and in the extreme western part of C'ville (G'town starts at the west end of our street). Relatively low, if any hills between me and my favorite station (10).

Can I assume that an attic mounted, full-size antenna will solve the frustrating drop outs?

Thanks!

mx6bfast
11-24-09, 07:30 PM
Rabbit ears are not hacking it for HD OTA, at least with an un-powered set and in the extreme western part of C'ville (G'town starts at the west end of our street). Relatively low, if any hills between me and my favorite station (10).

Can I assume that an attic mounted, full-size antenna will solve the frustrating drop outs?
Probably

soybot
11-26-09, 12:15 PM
I and my entire family are trying to watch the football game on FOX through D*, but the audio feed is terrible. I have dealt with the "brrip" noise intermittently for several months but it is really bad today. It's happening every 10 to 15 seconds, and the entire audio feed is about 2 seconds behind the video. THIS SUCKS!

mx6bfast
11-27-09, 08:40 PM
Just did a scan on my sons tv with a QAM tuner, some channels that came up were E!HD, TV One HD, ESPNU HD, and Palladia. Was kinda surprised at the last one. Local's were WPTY, WLMT, and a digital version of WREG but not in HD. Also saw TNT HD, USA HD, and I think I saw another one.

xABD
11-27-09, 09:45 PM
Can I assume that an attic mounted, full-size antenna will solve the frustrating drop outs?
ProbablyOK.

1. Any recommendations on the brands/models in this situation (inside attic space)? :)

Then comes the connections! Incoming Comcast cable splits in the attic to almost every room in the house. There are actually a pair Cat-5 cables going to those room, one set basically unused right now.
2. I'm thinking I should use that unused set for the antennae input. Sound reasonable?

I'm also assuming the antennae has a coax connector. I haven't used any kind of antennae in 15+ years! Have they made progress beyond twisted leads! ;)

3. If using the now unused coax cables is reasonable, would it be advisable to have any kind of 'signal booster' so that signal could be used for the one other digital-to-analog, CRT set?

4. Can that one antennae supply even two additional sets (four total)?

I'd ask another question, but I'm using my fifth finger to type! :p

Thanks!

mx6bfast
11-27-09, 10:14 PM
1. Any recommendations on the brands/models in this situation (inside attic space)? :)
Probably anything but bunny ears. You could probably find something at almost any store than would work.

Then comes the connections! Incoming Comcast cable splits in the attic to almost every room in the house. There are actually a pair Cat-5 cables going to those room, one set basically unused right now.
2. I'm thinking I should use that unused set for the antennae input. Sound reasonable?
Yes

I'm also assuming the antennae has a coax connector. I haven't used any kind of antennae in 15+ years! Have they made progress beyond twisted leads! ;)
Yes

3. If using the now unused coax cables is reasonable, would it be advisable to have any kind of 'signal booster' so that signal could be used for the one other digital-to-analog, CRT set?
More than likely any signal booster isn't needed. My OTA is fed into my old Terk 5x8 multiswitch, which is powered. Before I used a splitter which fed 2 tv's with no problems.

4. Can that one antennae supply even two additional sets (four total)?

Don't see why not. You could try using splitters and/or an ota supported multiswitch.

xABD
11-28-09, 10:51 PM
Thanks, mx6bfast, but I wish you could keep your answers a little shorter! [tease] [salute]

mcrutland
11-29-09, 06:02 PM
I know WREG is in the process of setting up an HD newscast. Does anyone know when it will launch?

mx6bfast
11-30-09, 10:41 AM
I know WREG is in the process of setting up an HD newscast. Does anyone know when it will launch?
I had no idea they were doing that. You can email the station prez at ron.walter@wreg.com and ask. Based on an email I sent him to complain about them messing up the 9 pm shows to pimp a news story and he said that would be fixed early next year, so I would look to news in HD be around that time too. I'm getting close to dropping the 9 pm CSI's on WREG because of the snipes they are putting in. I've gotten so use to watching the news on WHBQ because it is high quality HD and they don't run snipes during national and their own newscasts pimping other stories. However WREG and WLMT/WPTY are in the stone ages since we have had news in HD here for almost 2 years now?

glove311
11-30-09, 11:46 AM
I am in Hernando, MS.
Can someone recommend a good antenna to pickup the digital broadcasts of the Memphis stations?
I would prefer one that could be mounted in the attic, but I would install on the roof if needed.

I've attached the results from Antennaweb.org based on my location.

Thanks!

DTV Dave
12-01-09, 10:14 AM
I am in Hernando, MS.
Can someone recommend a good antenna to pickup the digital broadcasts of the Memphis stations?
I would prefer one that could be mounted in the attic, but I would install on the roof if needed.

I've attached the results from Antennaweb.org based on my location.

Thanks!

Welcome!

I live in Hernando and use a Radio Shack outdoor-style (log-periodic) antenna in my attic. It's the smaller of the outdoor antennas they sell, and recieves both UHF and VHF, which is important in this market as we have both in use. You can probably just aim it toward Memphis and it will work just fine, just try to keep it away from metal objects, particularly in front of the antenna. If that doesn't work, you might have to adjust the position while monitoring the TV so that you can aim it away from reflections. It's sometimes a trail and error thing. If that doesn't work, there is a big improvement in signal to be had by getting it outside the house, but I'd try that as a last resort.

Good luck!

glove311
12-01-09, 11:42 AM
Thanks for the reply DTV Dave.

Do you know which model you have?

I was looking at the Antennacraft Colorstar C290 at Radioshack.

EngDave
12-01-09, 04:44 PM
We have been recommending the Channel Master Antennas from Solid Signal. The antenna I would recommend would be a CM3016 which is a great little antenna for less than $30. You can call them at 866-374-4625 or go to Solidsignal.com . You can install this in the attic or outside it will work in either location. Obviously getting the antenna outside is always the best solution. They also have a lot of great information on thier website on how to properly install the antenna. If you look on thier website there is a link down the left hand side that will take you directly to thier "Tech Document Library"http://www.solidsignal.com/doc_library.asp?p=tech-document-library&page=1&p=18

Good luck
David
WMC

DTV Dave
12-02-09, 10:15 AM
Thanks for the reply DTV Dave.

Do you know which model you have?

I was looking at the Antennacraft Colorstar C290 at Radioshack.

I bought it over a year ago, originally to do on-air demonstrations on DTV, but after the "big switch" I discovered that my UHF loop antenna in my second-floor window wasn't going to cut it (I should have known, but it didn't occur to me until I couldn't pick us up anymore), so I put the antenna in my attic.

At the time I bought it, Radio Shack only sold two models of outdoor VHF/UHF antennas, the one I bought and a much bigger one that is used in fringe areas. As I recall, it cost about $60. I agree with Dave at WMC - you can't go wrong with a Channel Master.

One thing you will notice with an antenna in the attic is that it is more sensitive to any electrical noise in your house. Every time my refrigerator compressor starts or stops, or the igniter in my water heater and furnace activate, I have a signal disruption that lasts a second or so. This would be reduced if I moved the antenna outside, but it would still have disruptions from lightning, so I just accept it.

brainwaver
12-07-09, 10:09 PM
Ok, I know I've been told this is a DirecTV problem but these brrriiippps on Fox 13 news is ridiculous!!!!! This is happening almost every night and it's only on Fox 13 news; it doesn't happen on channel 5 or 3 news. They are losing me as a viewer!!!!!! :mad:

HDTV_Duffus
12-08-09, 07:52 AM
Ok, I know I've been told this is a DirecTV problem but these brrriiippps on Fox 13 news is ridiculous!!!!! This is happening almost every night and it's only on Fox 13 news; it doesn't happen on channel 5 or 3 news. They are losing me as a viewer!!!!!! :mad:

Brainwaver,

I understand your frustrations, but isn't this more an issue for DirecTV than Fox 13? Not to be argumentative, just seems missed directed anger.
Do you have an OTA option?

mx6bfast
12-08-09, 10:59 AM
Ok, I know I've been told this is a DirecTV problem but these brrriiippps on Fox 13 news is ridiculous!!!!! This is happening almost every night and it's only on Fox 13 news; it doesn't happen on channel 5 or 3 news. They are losing me as a viewer!!!!!! :mad:
I've seen it on national programming too, but mostly during the news. I do have an OTA option for WHBQ for 2 of our 3 hr20's so I always use that. I saw it once on channel 3, and another type issue with 5.

But it is annoying as crap.

Gary*w*
12-08-09, 12:14 PM
The Brrripp is also really bad on the new WKNO D* feed

mx6bfast
12-08-09, 10:03 PM
WPTY's radar is bobo. They can't even superimpose the radar correctly.

tscallions
12-11-09, 12:28 AM
Well I sat down to watch Fringe and what do you know.... brrriiippps! I'm throwing out a big Matt Kennedy Gould "What is going on?". Now I surely don't know the first thing about how to troubleshoot a TV broadcasting, but I am a technician myself and I know how my boss and my company would react if I had not fixed an issue that has been going on for this long. I actually busted out the old Flip MiniHD and recorded a minute or two of this annoying crap. You would think the techs would be catching **** from their co-workers on this! Hey Bob, I tried to watch Fringe last night and I'm still having the same damn issue I had a THREE MONTHS ago. That looks kinda bad for your department Bob. Not to mention how much this hurts the Fox name. Maybe someone should really devote some time to this Bob. And while you are at it, maybe we should release a press statement or at least try and communicate some type of response to our viewers, Bob. Well, that's how it would go where I work. Sorry, I'm done now. I'm just pissed off and I'm sure I am not the only one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQRiPppCPk

Kfcosby
12-11-09, 09:01 AM
Yeah, it was worse than "normal" last night, and the lip sync was horrible

mx6bfast
12-11-09, 10:19 AM
Well I sat down to watch Fringe and what do you know.... brrriiippps! I'm throwing out a big Matt Kennedy Gould "What is going on?". Now I surely don't know the first thing about how to troubleshoot a TV broadcasting, but I am a technician myself and I know how my boss and my company would react if I had not fixed an issue that has been going on for this long. I actually busted out the old Flip MiniHD and recorded a minute or two of this annoying crap. You would think the techs would be catching **** from their co-workers on this! Hey Bob, I tried to watch Fringe last night and I'm still having the same damn issue I had a THREE MONTHS ago. That looks kinda bad for your department Bob. Not to mention how much this hurts the Fox name. Maybe someone should really devote some time to this Bob. And while you are at it, maybe we should release a press statement or at least try and communicate some type of response to our viewers, Bob. Well, that's how it would go where I work. Sorry, I'm done now. I'm just pissed off and I'm sure I am not the only one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQRiPppCPk
3 months, lucky them. ;) I could hear it worse in the opening part when they showed the name of the program, etc. Where the silent parts the brrriiippp?

From the DBStalk board, http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2297992#post2297992

Gary*w*
12-11-09, 11:03 AM
The issues started about 3/4 through "Bones" and continued at least halfway through "Fringe" that's when I caught up to the live buffer and switched to the OTA. The OTA was fine.

PatrickGSR94
12-15-09, 08:31 PM
Anybody notice audio issues on ABC last night? Sounded like a bunch of pops and skips all throughout the evening programming and on at least into Conan.

Neil L
12-16-09, 01:51 PM
Patrick, were you watching OTA, Satellite or Cable?

DTV Dave
12-19-09, 09:04 PM
The power supply in the Fox splicer blew up, so there is no way to get HD Fox programming on the air. There is a replacement on the way, so it may be back sometime Sunday.

Ironically, the new REDUNDANT Fox Splicers arrived Thursday, but they can't be made operational until after the first of the year. At least there will be two of them then.

Sorry, HD fans!

mx6bfast
12-19-09, 10:29 PM
Anybody notice audio issues on ABC last night? Sounded like a bunch of pops and skips all throughout the evening programming and on at least into Conan.
Yep, deleted Scrubs because of it. My wife couldn't stand it.

OTA

mariocrazy
12-21-09, 04:17 PM
The power supply in the Fox splicer blew up, so there is no way to get HD Fox programming on the air. There is a replacement on the way, so it may be back sometime Sunday.

Ironically, the new REDUNDANT Fox Splicers arrived Thursday, but they can't be made operational until after the first of the year. At least there will be two of them then.

Sorry, HD fans!

If that was the case, and I'm new to the HD thing, why was the local FOX news in HD? And will FOX HD be ready in time for 11/27/09? :D

Trip in VA
12-21-09, 04:45 PM
The splicer controls Fox network HD, not local HD.

- Trip

mx6bfast
12-21-09, 04:55 PM
if that was the case, and i'm new to the hd thing, why was the local fox news in hd? And will fox hd be ready in time for 11/27/09? :d
11/27/09?

mariocrazy
12-21-09, 05:04 PM
11/27/09?

NFL Football. Sucks though last night I didn't get the Packers game in HD.

mariocrazy
12-21-09, 05:40 PM
NFL Football. Sucks though last night I didn't get the Packers game in HD.

Oh and... eheh... I meant December. Sorry

DTV Dave
12-22-09, 10:12 AM
If that was the case, and I'm new to the HD thing, why was the local FOX news in HD? And will FOX HD be ready in time for 11/27/09? :D

The way Fox satellite distribution is set up, the only way to get HD from them is through the splicer. It takes the HD transport stream from the network receivers that includes all Fox feeds, picks out the right one, and switches between it and the stream from the local station. That avoids decoding the original network stream back to video and then re-encoding it after passing through the station's switching and distribution system. It was also an easy way for a station that didn't have any HD equipment to pass on the network in HD without buying more equipment.

When the splicer fails and has to be bypassed, the only Fox signal available is an SD version that comes directly from the receivers - there is no HD output. That requires that we upconvert it to get it on the air. Since our newscast is already HD, it passes through just as always.

By the way, the splicer was replaced yesterday afternoon and is working normally.

mx6bfast
12-22-09, 11:05 AM
Oh and... eheh... I meant December. Sorry
:)

mariocrazy
12-22-09, 01:05 PM
The way Fox satellite distribution is set up, the only way to get HD from them is through the splicer. It takes the HD transport stream from the network receivers that includes all Fox feeds, picks out the right one, and switches between it and the stream from the local station. That avoids decoding the original network stream back to video and then re-encoding it after passing through the station's switching and distribution system. It was also an easy way for a station that didn't have any HD equipment to pass on the network in HD without buying more equipment.

When the splicer fails and has to be bypassed, the only Fox signal available is an SD version that comes directly from the receivers - there is no HD output. That requires that we upconvert it to get it on the air. Since our newscast is already HD, it passes through just as always.

By the way, the splicer was replaced yesterday afternoon and is working normally.

Ah, ok. I get it. Thanks for the clear-up! I was also thinking yesterday "House is in HD! Maybe they fixed it!..." Just sucks the power had to explode the day before the game I've been wanting to see for the first time in HD! Oh well.

mx6bfast
01-08-10, 11:05 AM
After watching the news the last few days it is painfully obvious how far behind WPTY is as far as technology. I feel like I was watching a high school production.

Even my wife was saying there is way too much crap on the screen.

TV Fringe Viewer
01-11-10, 11:48 PM
The NAB commercial part of this is airing on serveral local channels in my area!

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This commercial in not just for the places mentioned!! This video is for the whole USA!!!!

Contract your local senators and congress and express how important OTA is to you!!!!

FCC contract is for all of the USA!

Tom Servo
01-14-10, 12:17 AM
I was wondering what you folks thought of this from the FCC (http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-10-59A1.pdf) (PDF).

It appears WABG in Greenwood, MS petitioned to move some counties in the Delta out of the Memphis market and into the Greenwood-Greenville market. Those counties are: Panola, Quitman and Coahoma, including the towns of Batesville, Marks and Clarksdale.

Apparently CableOne carries WABG already in those areas, and the PDF asserts that this change is necessary to keep WABG on the cable system due to some edict from ABC that stations can no longer negotiate carriage on out of market systems. They argued that the counties have stronger ties to Greenwood than Memphis and the FCC agreed.

Does anyone know if this is a special action that applies only to WABG and WPTY, or if this will affect all channels? Obviously cable will continue to carry stations like WMC because there is no other NBC affiliate in the Delta, but I see this as being a big problem for satellite subscribers if it applies to all stations. People in these counties would lose ALL locals if they're moved to the Greenwood-Greenville market because neither satellite providers carries those locals.

It's only about 30,000 people so it's not a big hit to the market, but it still stinks if it means folks in that area will lose access to all the HD programming carried by Dish/DirecTV in the Memphis market.

DTV Dave
01-14-10, 10:00 AM
I was wondering what you folks thought of this from the FCC (http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-10-59A1.pdf) (PDF).

It's only about 30,000 people so it's not a big hit to the market, but it still stinks if it means folks in that area will lose access to all the HD programming carried by Dish/DirecTV in the Memphis market.

My understanding is that it applies to the whole market, and since satellite providers can only provide local-into-local within the customer's DMA (your tax dollars at work - distant channels are decided by coverage area but local-into-local is by DMA), so if you are in a DMA that doesn't have any channels available, you can't get local stations over satellite. Since you would still be inside the coverage area, you can't get distant stations, either. The FCC didn't think about that!

Say Hello to Crow and Gypsy for me!

energy812
01-14-10, 08:03 PM
I was watching Channel 5 tonight and noticed Wheel of Fortune was in true HD. I don't know how long they have been showing it in HD ( seems like earlier this week is was in SD), but its pretty cool that its in HD.... I will have to check tomorrow to see if any other syndicated shows are in HD...

Kfcosby
01-15-10, 09:33 AM
It has supposedly been available from the network as HD for some time. Good to know CH-5 has finally started sending it along that way.

Blesbok
01-16-10, 09:24 PM
Is it possible to get fox in HD using a wam tuner on comcast basic cable.

mx6bfast
01-16-10, 10:39 PM
Is it possible to get fox in HD using a wam tuner on comcast basic cable.
I haven't seen it from QAM yet.

Neil L
01-16-10, 11:24 PM
If FOX-HD is available at all on Comcast in Memphis (and I assume it is), it's format is QAM, since all digital cable is in the QAM format.

Blesbok wants to know if FOX-HD is on the basic cable tier or is FOX part of a premium package.

Blesbok
01-19-10, 01:23 PM
If FOX-HD is available at all on Comcast in Memphis (and I assume it is), it's format is QAM, since all digital cable is in the QAM format.

Blesbok wants to know if FOX-HD is on the basic cable tier or is FOX part of a premium package.
:werd: I can get all the other channels with basic cable, but fox is missing. I am wondering if the splicer they were talkign about last month is still down or if they just don't have a channel available on basic cable.

mx6bfast
01-19-10, 03:36 PM
:werd: I can get all the other channels with basic cable, but fox is missing. I am wondering if the splicer they were talkign about last month is still down or if they just don't have a channel available on basic cable.
I don't think the splicer would have anything to do with it, but we have basic cable and I've never seen WHBQ-DT after a scan. Of course I don't scan a lot though.

Neil L
01-19-10, 09:03 PM
I can get all the other channels with basic cable, but fox is missing.OK, now I've got HD envy. Over here, the is absolutely no HD on basic cable. Nothin'!:mad:

Trip in VA
01-22-10, 12:10 AM
Anyone seeing signals on channels 17 or 46? Both filed license apps with the FCC yesterday, and I'm curious as to what they might be airing.

- Trip

mx6bfast
01-22-10, 08:09 AM
Anyone seeing signals on channels 17 or 46? Both filed license apps with the FCC yesterday, and I'm curious as to what they might be airing.
Are those the digital assignments? Where are they based out of?

BCF68
01-22-10, 08:17 AM
Are those the digital assignments? Where are they based out of?

Yes those are the digital channel and they are both based out of bartlett so you shoud be able to get them in.

Kfcosby
01-22-10, 09:38 AM
Yes those are the digital channel and they are both based out of bartlett so you shoud be able to get them in.


Aren't these the "Good Doctors" (Flynn) religious stations?

jdmac29
01-22-10, 11:29 AM
Is anyone in the Memphis area using a Vista Media Center PC with a OTA hooked up to it able to get CW 30? I can get all the other channels and I get a solid antenna strength signal from media center but I can not get a picture.

BCF68
01-22-10, 11:42 AM
Aren't these the "Good Doctors" (Flynn) religious stations?

Hell if I know, I'm 115 miles away. Trip is asking so anyone in Memphis that has OTA just tune into 17 and 46 and report back what is on.

Trip in VA
01-22-10, 12:42 PM
Aren't these the "Good Doctors" (Flynn) religious stations?

I know they're owned by Flinn, yes. He owns a number of stations airing "My Family TV" in other markets. I'm curious if the two signals are on the air and, if so, what they're airing.

- Trip

Kfcosby
01-25-10, 08:46 AM
17-1 is up this morning. Spanish programming.

Trip in VA
01-25-10, 09:29 AM
Any idea which network?

- Trip

hdtvluvr
01-26-10, 08:11 AM
Is anyone in the area waiting on the new MRV software from D*?

I got the update this morning for both DVR's. It appears to be available for download around 4:30 central time. You can go to: http://www.redh.com/dtv/index.php?home, find your receiver and see if 395 is available. The list is updated about every 7 or 8 minutes. Once you see it is available you can force a download by (copied from the cutting edge forum):

How do I download?
Restart your receiver. Using the remote control, select
Menu -> Parental, Fav's & Setting -> System Setup > Reset -> Restart Receiver ({DASH} to confirm)
When the reset process starts, the blue LEDs on the front of the receiver will turn off
Once the LEDs on the front of the receiver come back on OR the first blue screen is displayed, whichever occurs first, enter this special code from your remote control: 0 2 4 6 8.
After a few more seconds, you should see a screen indicating that the 10-20 minute download cycle has started.

Notes
Press the number keys deliberately, allowing about 1/2 second per press. Do not hold the keys down. Make sure that you press ONLY the 5 numbers, one at a time, and nothing else.
The download process has two built-in "holds" to checksum the download and copy to permanent storage. So there is no need to report that your download has "stuck" between 90% and 97% unless it freezes for at least 15 minutes.
DO NOT RESTART the system again after the download process is complete unless you are asked. The normal download process automatically includes a second restart. Additional restarts harm the debug process.
If you reach the screen that says "checking satellite settings step 1 of 2" BEFORE you see an indication that the new firmware is downloading, then you will need to start over. The downloading screen should show up within a few seconds (it's not immediate). If it does go too far, then a Red Button Reset should make it start over without going through the entire startup process.

Why isn't receiver recognizing my key presses? Your remote and receiver were initially set for IR mode, and many report better results in IR mode. If your receiver is not seeing the force download sequence and you have set to RF mode, try changing back to IR mode. If your receiver is controlled with IR remote set to AV1 or AV2, and you are unable to force a download, add the following step: After initiating the restart by pushing the "-" (dash) button, immediately move the remote slide switch to DTV, and enter 02468 at the proper moment.

Kfcosby
01-26-10, 09:07 AM
Is anyone in the area waiting on the new MRV software from D*?

I'm waiting till I get the hard wire and 1GB network switch put in for my home network. Not going to try and do this one wireless....

mx6bfast
01-26-10, 10:34 AM
Is anyone in the area waiting on the new MRV software from D*?

I got the update this morning for both DVR's. It appears to be available for download around 4:30 central time. You can go to: http://www.redh.com/dtv/index.php?home, find your receiver and see if 395 is available. The list is updated about every 7 or 8 minutes. Once you see it is available you can force a download by (copied from the cutting edge forum):

How do you read that site? I was looking forward to MRV but not the fact that D* is gonna make us pay for it. Now I'm not so gung ho about it.

MitchSchaft
01-26-10, 10:37 AM
Is anyone in the Memphis area using a Vista Media Center PC with a OTA hooked up to it able to get CW 30? I can get all the other channels and I get a solid antenna strength signal from media center but I can not get a picture.

I use SageTV and can see that channel fine with OTA.

hdtvluvr
01-26-10, 01:06 PM
How do you read that site? I was looking forward to MRV but not the fact that D* is gonna make us pay for it. Now I'm not so gung ho about it.

Click on your receiver model. This will take you to a page showing 4 columns (one for 4 different versions of firmware). The firmware desired is Ox395 and will be in the left column if it is currently available. Check around 4:30 am central time. It is only being pushed for an hour or so. Don't start downloading if is has been up for almost an hour. If they change versions when you are at 90% or better it may lock your receiver. If they change before you get to 90% your receiver will revert back to it's previous version automatically.

As of right now, the 0x395 column shows it started at 2:51:27 this morning (4:51 central) and ended at 3:55:00 (5:55 central). However, since these lists only hold 10 rows of data it doesn't show that the software was actually available at 2:37 (4:37 central) - which it was when I got up this morning.

From what I've read on other forums, it will be in Beta for at least 3 months. Afterwords, there is conjecture that it will be $3 a month per home (not receiver). If a home has more than 1 DVR this is cheap additional space and space "warranted" by D*.

hdtvluvr
01-26-10, 01:19 PM
I'm waiting till I get the hard wire and 1GB network switch put in for my home network. Not going to try and do this one wireless....

Yeah, I have a 1GB wired network. I watched a few minutes of a recorded show that was on the other DVR and it seemed to be as if it was actually recorded on the local box. However a few minutes isn't a good test.

Be aware though that the receivers are only 100mb capable and while a 1 Gb pipe would be great it may not be completely necessary. If nothing runs on your wireless network while you are watching TV, wireless might be fine. If you need to spend money buying wireless adapters for the receivers then I would spend the money on a 1 GB wired option.

If you are putting in the 1 Gb network just for D* you might want to wait. They have a solution called DECA (DIRECTV Ethernet Coaxial Adapter) that will allow the use of the existing coax to also handle networking between D* receivers. Check it out here:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=170910

hdtvluvr
01-26-10, 10:04 PM
According to a post at DBSTalk, 0x395 may be sent to everyone tonight with the exception of the following models:

HR21-100, HR22-100, R22-100

Here's he link:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2343453#post2343453

mx6bfast
01-26-10, 11:22 PM
According to a post at DBSTalk, 0x395 may be sent to everyone tonight with the exception of the following models:

HR21-100, HR22-100, R22-100

Here's he link:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2343453#post2343453
I pulled it down on 2 hr20's tonight.

Kfcosby
01-27-10, 09:37 AM
If you are putting in the 1 Gb network just for D* you might want to wait. They have a solution called DECA (DIRECTV Ethernet Coaxial Adapter) that will allow the use of the existing coax to also handle networking between D* receivers. Check it out here:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=170910


I saw this, but at some point it is going to have to go back out to the Internet. I am still hoping for more Internet streaming services from DTV.

mx6bfast
01-28-10, 12:05 PM
Is there anyone who has replaced the hdd in an HR-2x? I got to the point of removing the grounding wire but I don't have a torx tool to remove it. I went to Lowe's and Stewart Bros. Does anyone know where I can buy locally a torx 10 tool with a hole in the top? Or if someone has one I can borrow?

hdtvluvr
01-28-10, 01:51 PM
It sounds like you are looking for a hollow tip torx also known as a security bit. I don't know if the local Harbor Freight (on Summer) has these but you could check:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91310

Sears may have security bits in stock

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SP100A2664S162987464P?keyword=security+bits

Please let me know where you get them.

wakka092
01-28-10, 05:20 PM
WREG's newscast is going HD in March according to George Brown on WREG's live chat during First at 4 on their website today.

mx6bfast
01-31-10, 04:32 PM
Is anyone else getting sick of the constant scrolls about closings during EVERY FREAKING PROGRAM? No joke while trying to watch the NAAS on WMC, at 1 pm, they were showing churches that were not opening until 9:30, 10, etc.

I guess this is one of the few times it's ok that WPTY/WLMT are so far behind the curve because I am actually watching programming without that crap on the screen.

Snow/ice/other stuff is over. Save the closings for the news.

mx6bfast
01-31-10, 04:34 PM
It sounds like you are looking for a hollow tip torx also known as a security bit. I don't know if the local Harbor Freight (on Summer) has these but you could check:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91310

Sears may have security bits in stock

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SP100A2664S162987464P?keyword=security+bits

Please let me know where you get them.
Thanks for the info. I think I'm gonna take back the hdd and maybe try it again later when I have more time to commit to it. It shouldn't take long to do, but I don't know when I'll get the chance again as we are always busy during the week and will be the next few weekends.

hdtvluvr
01-31-10, 05:48 PM
Why are you using an internal drive?

I'm thinking about adding more space now and am considering an external drive.

The next time I'm close to Harbor Freight, I'm going to get a set of those bits if they have them.

Where is the DVR info (Series Manager, Quick Tune settings, etc.) stored? Are they on the HD?

mx6bfast
01-31-10, 07:25 PM
Why are you using an internal drive?

I'm thinking about adding more space now and am considering an external drive.

The next time I'm close to Harbor Freight, I'm going to get a set of those bits if they have them.

Where is the DVR info (Series Manager, Quick Tune settings, etc.) stored? Are they on the HD?
There is a way to copy over all of your programs, series links, using an internal drive. If you attach an external drive its just like starting all over, and to my knowledge there isn't a way to copy everything over externally. We have some movies and some stuff for my wife saved that we don't want to get rid of.

I'm sure all of those settings are saved on the hdd as they will all be wiped out when you add another hdd, externally or internally.

mx6bfast
02-01-10, 04:41 PM
Great job to WREG for screwing up the last award of the Grammy's. They were in a 9 minute commercial break, nearly 4 for locals, when someone decided oops, the show wasn't over, and cut back to the feed where Taylor Swift just started her speech.

bmurphr1
02-01-10, 08:53 PM
Olive Branch/Southaven border here along Getwell Road...the local TV stations coming in over Comcast cable (we just have basic service...no digital packages) are pure crap 90 percent of the time. We have a Winegard antenna mounted on the roof and the house is dual-wired for Comcast analog cable and HD antenna programming. The higher HD channels like USA HD and Discovery HD come in just fine, but it's the local stations we have all the problems with. My only problem is that we have an HTPC with quad tuners in it that can record feeds from cable and OTA, but my bedroom TV only has a single hybrid tuner so I cannot hook up both OTA and cable lines into the TV at the same time. If we had a clear line-of-sight to the south we would most definitely have DirecTV or Dish, but since we don't and probably won't ever have a clear sight due to a large line of trees and not wanting to install a satellite on an extension pole to reach a higher plane we are stuck with Comcast's crappy cable service. Our cable internet is incredibly fast since the main cable node sits on the pole right outside our house, but our TV service is marginal at best.

Does anybody have a quick link to a list of QAM channels that come in over Comcast's cable service? I would be very appreciative if someone had a list I could bum off of.

jetfxr27
02-03-10, 04:30 PM
Here ya go.
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:38672#lineup_1537703
By the way I have the exact setup as you and I too have the same issue. However a friend in the same neighborhood gets the local signal clear.

On a side, why does Collierville , Memphis and Germantown only receive 29 channels vs our 69?

bmurphr1
02-04-10, 04:58 AM
Thanks very much for the link...it came in handy this evening while trying to label all of the channels and weeding out duplicates.

I didn't know C'ville/G'town and Memphis had that many fewer QAM channels than we do...I have a buddy who has digital cable but just uses QAM in his bedroom, and he's able to get most of the channels on that list without any problems.

Our household cable has always been pretty finicky...we've had Time Warner/Comcast technicians come out to the house a number of times to try to diagnose our signal problem but the majority of them are incompetent and don't know what they're doing. At one point we had about 4 filters connected in a series that split 4 ways into the house coax wall connections, but we finally met one gentleman who helped us out tremendously with our signal problem. He basically told us that there's a signal leak some where not in our house, but he could never figure out where it was coming from so he had to refer the issue to a higher level technician. We ended up with this weird little wall wart AC adapter with a coax connector on the bottom of it that connects to a little 2-way splitter looking device with one connection going to the power adapter, one from the cable source, and the last connection going to the TV. I've never been able to figure out how the device works, but it made our cable reception 90%+ better.

I'm actually thinking one of the main cables in our house needs to be upgraded since it's been in place since the house was built. Cablevision back in the day before it turned into Time Warner gave us some RG59 cabling to wire our house with, and that's what is carrying our TV signal into the house. I plan on going to Home Depot within the next few days and buying about 50 feet of some optimal quality RG6 coax to replace that incoming line and see if it helps our TV signal any.

jetfxr27
02-04-10, 09:09 AM
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locomo
02-04-10, 07:00 PM
Can anyone here get channel 30-1 (antenna) with TivoHD ?

Thanks

bmurphr1
02-05-10, 05:29 PM
Thanks jetfxr27, I keep forgetting about monoprice...I used to order from them all the time buying computer cables and such from them but completely forgot they sold coax cable as well. I just placed my order, so it should be in within a few days.

jetfxr27
02-08-10, 01:13 PM
You're welcome neighbor!
Now can anyone tell me why ,"according to the siliiconedust website" we have the BEST clear qam channel lineup in Northern, MS?

It all started with a buddy who lives north of town, comapring my lineup, 38672 (Desoto County MS) to his (Memphis , TN) Lineup. I have muchos premium content vs his dimals selection. 22 channel vs 69. So I began to check randomly all across the US. From the Bronx to Beverly Hills. And a bunch of places in between. Mostly everyone has Local and that's about it.

My lineup includes about 20 premium, including a premium movie channel. Confirmed by a gratuitous display of Boobs.

hope I havent let and cat's out of any bags!

mx6bfast
02-08-10, 03:47 PM
Just rescanned QAM on my sons tv and this is the list in Bartlett. I only have basic cable.

23-5: NBA TV
23-10: blank
24-1: WPTY-DT
30-1 WLMT-DT
30-2 Retro (blank)
63-12: WREG-DT (not sure if HD)
66-2: TV One HD
76-1: no signal
76-2: no signal
93-2: CSPAN2
103-6: Comcast channel?
112-6: local public broadcast channel?
112-8: City of Bartlett
112-9: City of Lakeland
112-10: CIN: Local advertising
112-11: same as 112-10
112-12: same as 112-10 and -11, but different ads and set to a radio station from Munford
114-9: Lifetime Movie Network
118-11: ESPNU. Doesn’t appear to be HD. Program currently in SD with no HD bars
122-5: same as 103-6

mx6bfast
02-08-10, 03:59 PM
Anyone seeing signals on channels 17 or 46? Both filed license apps with the FCC yesterday, and I'm curious as to what they might be airing.
17-1 in Spanish.

46-1 all I see is a W where the station id would be. Looks to be religious programming

mx6bfast
02-08-10, 04:10 PM
You're welcome neighbor!
Now can anyone tell me why ,"according to the siliiconedust website" we have the BEST clear qam channel lineup in Northern, MS?

It all started with a buddy who lives north of town, comapring my lineup, 38672 (Desoto County MS) to his (Memphis , TN) Lineup. I have muchos premium content vs his dimals selection. 22 channel vs 69. So I began to check randomly all across the US. From the Bronx to Beverly Hills. And a bunch of places in between. Mostly everyone has Local and that's about it.

My lineup includes about 20 premium, including a premium movie channel. Confirmed by a gratuitous display of Boobs.

hope I havent let and cat's out of any bags!
Which premium movie channel? I have basic and I get up to about 77. I *should* only get to I think the 20's but when the guy came to check my internet a couple of years ago he didn't say anything about it. He was great.

jetfxr27
02-08-10, 05:53 PM
Starz HD,

Heres my list:
D

▼Comcast Cable: Southaven, MS, 38671▼
Type Channel Virtual Name Resolution Aspect
qam256 84-5 2 MIDSON 704x480i
4:3

qam256 84-2 3.1 WREGDT 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 80-3 5.1 WMCDT 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 80-4 5.2 WMCDT2 704x480i
4:3

qam256 80-5 5.3 WMCDT3 704x480i
4:3

qam256 84-3 10.1 WKNO 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 84-4 10.2 WKNODT2 704x480i
4:3

qam256 93-2 16 CSPAN2 528x480i
4:3

qam256 81-4 24.1 WPTYDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 81-8 30.1 WLMTDT 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 81-6 30.2 RTV 480x480p
480x480i
4:3

qam256 23-5 ESPN 704x480i
4:3

qam256 23-10 RTN 704x480i
704x480p
4:3

qam256 63-12 CBS
qam256 66-2 ONE-HD 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 70 ONDEMAND
qam256 71 ONDEMAND
qam256 72 ONDEMAND
qam256 73 ONDEMAND
qam256 76-1 TNTHD
qam256 76-2 TBS-HD
qam256 79-6 CCMPAID 720x480i
4:3

qam256 79-7 INSP 528x480i
4:3

qam256 80-2 WHBQDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 103-6 ONDEMAND 528x480i
4:3

qam256 112-1 CNBC 704x480i
4:3

qam256 112-2 Family 704x480p
4:3

qam256 112-3 FoxNews 704x480i
4:3

qam256 112-4 MSNBC 704x480i
4:3

qam256 112-5 UNKNOWN 544x480p
4:3

qam256 112-6 UNKNOWN
qam256 112-8 UNKNOWN 544x480p
4:3

qam256 112-10 UNKNOWN 544x480i
544x480p
4:3

qam256 112-11 UNKNOWN
qam256 114-1 A&E 704x480p
4:3

qam256 114-2 FOOD
qam256 114-3 FOXSOUTH 544x480p
4:3

qam256 114-4 FX
qam256 114-5 HISTORY
qam256 114-6 HGTV
qam256 114-8 LIFETIME
qam256 114-10 AMC 704x480p
4:3

qam256 114-11 TVLAND
qam256 114-12 WGN
qam256 117-1 UNKNOWN
qam256 117-2 UNKNOWN 544x480i
4:3

qam256 117-3 UNKNOWN
qam256 117-4 UNKNOWN
qam256 117-8 UNKNOWN
qam256 117-9 UNKNOWN 704x480p
4:3

qam256 117-10 UNKNOWN 544x480i
4:3

qam256 117-11 UNKNOWN
qam256 118-11 ESPNU 704x480i
4:3

qam256 119-1 Startz-HD 1920x1080p
16:9

qam256 119-3 HGTV-HD 1920x1080p
16:9

qam256 120-1 Universal-HD 1920x1080p
16:9

qam256 120-2 Food-HD 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 120-3 SyFy-HD
qam256 121-1 USA-HD
qam256 121-2 NatGeo-HD 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 121-3 Discovery-HD
qam256 122-5 ONDEMAND 528x480i
4:3

Tom Servo
02-08-10, 06:01 PM
W I believe is the Worship Network (http://www.worship.net/).

If I could see the logo on the Spanish channel I'm sure I could figure it out.

You guys are lucky. The cable here where I live down in Grenada only shows HBO (which I don't get), WABG-HD, a PPV barker and the Music Choice channels in QAM. Everything else seems to be scrambled.

Trip in VA
02-08-10, 06:40 PM
17-1 in Spanish.

Is there a logo that might clue me in as to which Spanish network it is airing?

46-1 all I see is a W where the station id would be. Looks to be religious programming

As Tom says, this is probably Worship, but there are some other religious networks which carry Worship's programming.

Thanks. :)

- Trip

mx6bfast
02-08-10, 07:22 PM
Is there a logo that might clue me in as to which Spanish network it is airing?
No, all that's on there is a bug with the local time and then the name of the program on the other side of the screen. TSReader doesn't show a call name either.

As Tom says, this is probably Worship, but there are some other religious networks which carry Worship's programming.
No call name on TSReader either.

mx6bfast
02-08-10, 07:23 PM
Starz HD,

Heres my list:
D
Damn! All you need is basic cable.

Trip in VA
02-08-10, 07:31 PM
No, all that's on there is a bug with the local time and then the name of the program on the other side of the screen. TSReader doesn't show a call name either.

No call name on TSReader either.

Would you be willing to do HTML Exports on the two signals and send them to me? webmaster at rabbitears dot info.

Name of the program? Maybe if you could make a note of some of those, it would help figure out which network it is.

- Trip

energy812
02-08-10, 08:31 PM
Found this information.... proves that WREG News Channel 3 is making the switch to HD.

http://news.creativecow.net/story/863190

When Channel 3 goes HD, then we will wait and see if 24/30 gets the upgrades, but that kinda looks unlikely at the moment.

Kfcosby
02-11-10, 09:41 AM
They must have been doing some change over prelims this morning. At one point running a tape of last nights news. Back live just before 7:AM apologizing for their technical difficulties.



Found this information.... proves that WREG News Channel 3 is making the switch to HD.

http://news.creativecow.net/story/863190

When Channel 3 goes HD, then we will wait and see if 24/30 gets the upgrades, but that kinda looks unlikely at the moment.

mx6bfast
02-13-10, 11:13 PM
Winter Olympics is a blocky mess on WMC when the athletes move.

Kfcosby
02-14-10, 12:46 PM
Winter Olympics is a blocky mess on WMC when the athletes move.

Yep, noticed that. Worst I have seen in quite awhile

nick1817
03-04-10, 11:46 AM
* Comcast 805 has been in and out lately

* I've heard Comcast is upgrading some of the software for the HD DVR's, and idea when Memphis will roll that out?

Cheep
03-22-10, 12:09 PM
Anybody have this? I've been seeing really incredible deals. Including a $105/month deal (TV, phone, internet) presented to me by an AT&T guy who was going door-to-door in my neighborhood. (The guy was actually pretty knowledgeable.) I guess the big deal to me is the DVR's quality-- if it sucks like Comcast's, then no thanks. But if it's comparable to what I have now with DirecTV, I might bite. Anyone?

mx6bfast
03-25-10, 01:46 PM
I'm finally getting around to watching the season finale of Heros, and this is what I see.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4523/p3251678.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/p3251678.jpg/)

This is freaking ridiculous. Yet another reason why my viewing of WMC has pretty much gone bye bye. If it wasn't for this show I could take them off of my guide.

Tom Servo
03-26-10, 02:33 PM
Wow, I've never seen a station do that. At least you still have the full widescreen image on screen. On a lot of channels I watch, a storm warning means dropping back to 4:3 AND losing half the screen to scrolling messages and ugly maps.

Of course, Heroes is on NBC isn't it? WTVA in Tupelo and WVTM in Birmingham both keep the picture widescreen and have nice unobtrusive overlays, compared to what WMC did there. Yuck.

Kfcosby
03-26-10, 03:20 PM
I know this is a hotly debated topic. I still say they could at the very least put the network programming on an alternate feed (5-2) for those not that didn't have to be feed second by second. Same thing for wall-2-wall weather coverage. We have sub-channels now, lets use em !

Tom Servo
03-26-10, 03:29 PM
I know this is a hotly debated topic. I still say they could at the very least put the network programming on an alternate feed (5-2) for those not that didn't have to be feed second by second. Same thing for wall-2-wall weather coverage. We have sub-channels now, lets use em !
Agreed, that would alleviate a lot of the problems people have with weather coverage. Since most cable companies carry the subchannels now, it should be a no-brainer.

Of course, this would still leave us satellite TV subs out in the cold. Anyone who cares about local weather coverage should have an antenna anyway. Satellite and cable both can go out during bad storms.

mx6bfast
03-26-10, 05:20 PM
Wow, I've never seen a station do that. At least you still have the full widescreen image on screen. On a lot of channels I watch, a storm warning means dropping back to 4:3 AND losing half the screen to scrolling messages and ugly maps.

Of course, Heroes is on NBC isn't it? WTVA in Tupelo and WVTM in Birmingham both keep the picture widescreen and have nice unobtrusive overlays, compared to what WMC did there. Yuck.
I don't know what it is here but every station will scrunch the program with their "flagship colors" all around it, sometimes with some kind of snow decorations or whatever on the side. Why can't the local stations just do like you said, do an overlay? I didn't get another picture but inbetween the show and the first line of closing on the bottom, when another school closed they blasted a BREAKING NEWS in a red box that said "xxx School closed tomorrow." so at that point you had 7 weather things to look at on the screen, NOT including the program you are trying to watch.

Give us a break!! This would make a kid with ADD go mad. Usually I just forgo the local channel if it is doing this and watch it on hulu or the networks website.

WREG tried to do something earlier with stretched SD graphics on HD, but it was nasty looking. WHBQ did the same as WMC, and I don't even remember what WPTY and WLMT did. Their equipment is so outdated. WPTY tried to run weather graphics a few weeks ago and they cut to SD, a green line a few inches into the program, and the map was just left of the middle of the screen.

Man I gotta start capturing some of these channels to my pc when there is a chance of a storm so I can get good caps of the ridiculousness of them.

mx6bfast
03-26-10, 05:22 PM
I know this is a hotly debated topic. I still say they could at the very least put the network programming on an alternate feed (5-2) for those not that didn't have to be feed second by second. Same thing for wall-2-wall weather coverage. We have sub-channels now, lets use em !

Agreed, that would alleviate a lot of the problems people have with weather coverage. Since most cable companies carry the subchannels now, it should be a no-brainer.

Of course, this would still leave us satellite TV subs out in the cold. Anyone who cares about local weather coverage should have an antenna anyway. Satellite and cable both can go out during bad storms.
Or use commercial breaks for updates. I have seen both WHBQ and WPTY do that.

Tom Servo
03-27-10, 12:56 AM
Or use commercial breaks for updates. I have seen both WHBQ and WPTY do that.
But that would cut into the real programming, lol.

I don't get to watch much TV in Memphis but it can't be worse than ABC 33/40 in Birmingham. James Spann is a wonderful weatherman and very well respected in the community but his policy of breaking into programming for tornado warnings in the coverage area means that prime time programming is just dropped for some warning 100 miles from Birmingham (it's a huge TV market). The other day I was told he did it for a tornado warning that wasn't even in the market, it was a county in the Huntsville market. Sheesh.

At least I'm hearing now they will replay prime time programming after midnight if it's preempted by weather coverage, but the replays are in SD only.

Contrast that with WXVT here in the Mississippi Delta who don't even bother to break in for a tornado warning. Just a little warning box in the corner of the screen. WABG is a bit better, but if the only meteorologist is gone for the night, you're on your own.

Surely there is a sweet spot between wall-to-wall radar coverage and barely a peep?

TV Fringe Viewer
03-28-10, 11:17 PM
WMC's sister station KAIT 8 Jonesboro AR abc runs a red ticker bar with text with the storm warning or watch runing over HD feed! Their weather bug is shown on the HD feed after the red ticker bar goes off.

The only time the screen Shrinks is during commercials aired by KAIT! abc feed using doesn't do that any more since going digital!

But during Tornado Warnings they cut off regular programing and go to live weather coverage. Until the storm is no longer severe!
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mx6bfast
03-29-10, 10:27 AM
Surely there is a sweet spot between wall-to-wall radar coverage and barely a peep?
I've always liked the "no hype weather" by WHBQ. All these other stations act like chicken little and the sky is falling.

mcrutland
03-29-10, 09:42 PM
Any news on when WREG's HD newscast will come about?

HDTV_Duffus
04-18-10, 09:29 AM
Anyone have this issue?

We have a Toshiba Rear Projection TV that is ~ 10 years old. The TV has managed to get thru 10 yrs of significant use, gaming, sports, news broadcasts, etc., without an issue until the stations changed to the digital broadcasts. Now I have a PERMANENT 5 bug burned into the screen! I just noticed it last week during the Masters broadcast.

Anyone else have an issue with the channel bugs burning in?

Engineers on the site - it seems there should be a simple fix. Any comments?

We've now changed the news that we watch - I now it serves little use, but it makes me feel better.

We were TV shopping before this happened, that it is now on hold as well. I'm not happy with this happening to a 10 yr old set, I would be pissed in this was a new set!

hdtvluvr
04-18-10, 11:28 AM
The probability of bug burn-in was discussed when bugs first appeared a number of years ago. The internet community was abuzz with requests for stations to either remove the bugs or at least make them faint like a light watermark. They didn't comply. In fact, some stations over did theirs to be very prominent. It was and still is a marketing technique to keep a station (brand) "in the consumer's eye" so to speak.

With all of the channels available, each channel is vying for recognition.

All CRT's are prone to this occurring. LCD's will do it too (to a lesser degree) but it is usually referred to as "image retention" since the image isn't really burned into phosphors (like on CRT's). Plasma sets also have burn-in.

Blame the stations - not the TVs. BTW, good thing you don't leave it tuned to one of the sub channel weather stations :D

MitchSchaft
04-18-10, 01:18 PM
It's time to step in to the 21st century. Get a new set, that thing is a dinosaur! That will never happen on a new set, LCD or Plasma. Burn-in is a thing of the past.

BCF68
04-18-10, 01:50 PM
Anyone have this issue?

We have a Toshiba Rear Projection TV that is ~ 10 years old. The TV has managed to get thru 10 yrs of significant use, gaming, sports, news broadcasts, etc., without an issue until the stations changed to the digital broadcasts. Now I have a PERMANENT 5 bug burned into the screen! I just noticed it last week during the Masters broadcast.

Anyone else have an issue with the channel bugs burning in?

Engineers on the site - it seems there should be a simple fix. Any comments?

We've now changed the news that we watch - I now it serves little use, but it makes me feel better.

We were TV shopping before this happened, that it is now on hold as well. I'm not happy with this happening to a 10 yr old set, I would be pissed in this was a new set!

New TVs do not suffer from burn in. Burn in is NOT a reason to not buy a new TV.

ProjectSHO89
04-18-10, 06:18 PM
My 6 or 7 year old RCA RP set has the CNBC tickers burned into it. It's not bad enough to replace, though...

Kfcosby
04-20-10, 11:49 AM
Just got the Netflix disk for the Wii and I am having a few problems. I've got the Wii hard connected to my home network and the Internet is AT&T DSL Extreme. I am getting dropout and jitters, and the speedtests I have run are all over the map. AT&T of course says there is nothing wrong with the connection, imagine that. This an a few other problems have prompted me to examine other Internet Options. COMCAST Business has a 16/2 service available. Does anyone have any experience they can share ?

I am in Bartlett, and understand that if you have good Comcast it's pretty good, but if you have old cable, the results are really bad....

mx6bfast
04-20-10, 04:19 PM
Just got the Netflix disk for the Wii and I am having a few problems. I've got the Wii hard connected to my home network and the Internet is AT&T DSL Extreme. I am getting dropout and jitters, and the speedtests I have run are all over the map. AT&T of course says there is nothing wrong with the connection, imagine that. This an a few other problems have prompted me to examine other Internet Options. COMCAST Business has a 16/2 service available. Does anyone have any experience they can share ?

I am in Bartlett, and understand that if you have good Comcast it's pretty good, but if you have old cable, the results are really bad....
I just got the Wii disk the other day but haven't run it yet. I have had Comcast at our house since we moved in 7 years ago. I live near G-town/70 intersection. I'm getting the 6/1 service but it is still plenty fast.

HDTV_Duffus
04-20-10, 06:07 PM
Blame the stations - not the TVs. BTW, good thing you don't leave it tuned to one of the sub channel weather stations :D[/QUOTE]

Blaming the station is exactly what I was doing. It is utterly ridiculous for a TV that we still love to be ruined by a station simply to exaggerate their "brand".

Oh well, my one family boycott will continue.....

HDTV_Duffus
04-20-10, 06:09 PM
In my opinion, "that dinosaur" still outperforms any set we have placed beside it.

Still pi$$ed at WMC for ruining it!

mx6bfast
04-20-10, 09:26 PM
Moral of the story, don't watch WMC. :) I'm surprised your tv doesn't have motion blocking burn in either.

HDTV_Duffus
04-21-10, 07:43 AM
Moral of the story, don't watch WMC. :) I'm surprised your tv doesn't have motion blocking burn in either.

That's funny:D

The said thing is as we now watch the other locals, they have the same issues.
Big solid bugs, just different placement.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the local station engineers haven't joined the conversation:confused:

mx6bfast
04-21-10, 02:12 PM
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the local station engineers haven't joined the conversation:confused:
I wouldn't be surprised. The answer is to not watch a station that could possibly leave burn in on your tv, and I doubt you would see someone say that about their station.

mx6bfast
04-21-10, 10:58 PM
Just got the Netflix disk for the Wii and I am having a few problems. I've got the Wii hard connected to my home network and the Internet is AT&T DSL Extreme. I am getting dropout and jitters, and the speedtests I have run are all over the map. AT&T of course says there is nothing wrong with the connection, imagine that. This an a few other problems have prompted me to examine other Internet Options. COMCAST Business has a 16/2 service available. Does anyone have any experience they can share ?

I am in Bartlett, and understand that if you have good Comcast it's pretty good, but if you have old cable, the results are really bad....
I watched about 10 minutes of The Saint problem free. Our Wii is wireless.

Kfcosby
04-22-10, 09:21 AM
I watched about 10 minutes of The Saint problem free. Our Wii is wireless.

Good - I watched some last night with very minor trouble, only a pause at the front end, then flawless streaming. With some of the other problems creeping up with the DSL, it is looking more like a change in in the very near future.

Thanks for the feedback!

Kevin

DTV Dave
04-22-10, 10:32 AM
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the local station engineers haven't joined the conversation:confused:

If you look at the Fox 13 bug, you'll find that the one that runs during programming at the lower right is transparent, to minimize burn-in.

The full-color one that is used on the lower left during newscasts is constantly moving, spinning at the top and bottom, and with the "searchlights" moving in the middle. Same reason.

HDTV_Duffus
04-22-10, 10:29 PM
If you look at the Fox 13 bug, you'll find that the one that runs during programming at the lower right is transparent, to minimize burn-in.

The full-color one that is used on the lower left during newscasts is constantly moving, spinning at the top and bottom, and with the "searchlights" moving in the middle. Same reason.

Dave,

Thanks for caring and attempting to minimize the issue. Now can you impact your fellow engineers?!?;)

I guess I'll have to give 13 a longer trial. When I was channel flipping, the bug looked as intense as the other channels so I moved past. I did notice the rotation, but it appeared the center of the bug was fixed and would cause the same problems. I'll take another look.

miklk1973
04-23-10, 09:01 PM
Everyone knows there is some bad weather outside of your viewing area. Thanks for running smallville in sd with mono audio. Could you maybe only do it during commercial breaks?

miklk1973
05-02-10, 10:29 AM
I didn't mean to kill the forum.

mx6bfast
05-02-10, 09:18 PM
It happens....

mx6bfast
05-04-10, 04:55 PM
I'm at my parents last night and they turned on the news since we were out of town this weekend and we were looking at some of the water damage. They had it on WMC for the 10 pm news and I saw something that was cheap on their part. WMC threw up a snipe about another story later in the newscast.

Low.

tscallions
05-24-10, 12:43 AM
Where the hell is the Jimmy Kimmel: Aloha To Lost? It was supposed to air right after the local news and now it's just freakin' Two And A Half Men reruns! It was in the DirecTV guide last week and I even scheduled it to record. I also checked the local cable feed to see if it was a DirecTV screw-up and it isn't playing there either. So disappointed.

Gary*w*
05-24-10, 04:39 PM
For some reason they moved it to next Saturday. Ch. 24 cant be bothered to show Jimmy Kimmel Live, live why would they show the special live.

mx6bfast
05-24-10, 05:25 PM
For some reason they moved it to next Saturday. Ch. 24 cant be bothered to show Jimmy Kimmel Live, live why would they show the special live.
They are in stone age compared to the other stations around here.

bgoering
05-24-10, 07:04 PM
Has anyone looked into DirecTV mult-room service? I used the beta (that was discontinued last week) and it seemed to work just fine. I just called trying to get the $3.00 service - and they are trying to tell me I don't have the necessary equipment. I must purchase a $99 connection kit and commit to another 24 months service if I want the multi-room service.

Anyone have a similar experience? I know that I have the needed connectivity already.

hdtvluvr
05-24-10, 07:13 PM
If you were using Beta MRV and want to continue using ethernet then you can activate MRV and it will be unsupported by D* because you will be using your own network instead of DECA. It will only cost $3 per month. The process for enabling MRV using your own hardware can be found here:

Enabling MRV using your home networking (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=177590)

bgoering
05-24-10, 07:31 PM
Thanks so much - followed instructions in 2nd post and it worked like a champ

As a plus - got 3 months of Showtime free :)

hdtvluvr
05-24-10, 11:13 PM
Glad to help.

tscallions
05-24-10, 11:28 PM
Surpr*briiiiiiiipppppp"ise! The dreaded briiippp is back on the Fox feed. Sat down to watch the 24 Series Finale tonight and gave up after 10min of bad audio. The last time I posted about this issue it was 12/19/09. And when I posted then, I was complaining that it three months before that. Why in the F can't Fox figure this problem out! How in the hell is this acceptable? I haven't even tried the season finale of Fringe yet.... lets see if they got that one right.

Gary*w*
05-25-10, 09:20 AM
Actually the brrriipppp was in the last 20 min or so of the Fringe finale too.