Like an idiot, I should have made sure my brain was engaged before my fingers were.No problems - you meant the other sub-channels from WGBY-DT. We are a fairly frequent viewer of WGBY-DT over the air and have not noticed any pixelation issues ...

You note that the interference is more often on 57.1 -- that is likely due to the fact that more bandwidth is dedicated to the .1 sub-channel ... so if you're taking hits you may see them more often on the higher bandwidth sub-channel.

Remember if you bypass the amp (and it is powered via DC on the coax) to also remove the power over coax device as well.

If the antenna is pointed away from Mt. Tom -- here's another maybe strange but plausible possibility: multipath reflections from planes going in and out of Bradley. (Wonder if you point the antenna at Mt. Tom if the occasional break-up issue diminishes or goes away?)

I had asked the questions about the CT UHF affiliates to see if there was something in common with your system, e.g., also maybe having problems with them as well as WGBY-DT.

Being so close to Provin - the WWLP-DT signal is likely overloading your receiver's front end ... and that may be blocking your ability to receive WTNH-DT (channel 10) or WTXX-DT (currently channel 12 - moving back to 20 in a couple of weeks). WCTX-DT is from the same tower as WTNH-DT and transmits on channel 39 ... so if you have a strong signal from WGGB-DT it too may make reception of WCTX difficult or impossible.

Not sure what is up with the Univision station on 46 - I too am having difficulty now receiving that one. WEDH-DT is now on channel 45 and has a booming signal into western MA from their new antenna in Farmington.

This is all very, very good. I'm grateful for the help, and I'll see about bypassing the amp and the power as well to try WTNH on 10.1 and WTXX on 12.1. Overload from 11.1 (WWLP) had never entered my mind.
Thank you for this.

Tom

11 days to go.

11 days to go.Until?! :)

Nothing happening here ;)

Other than the low power stations ... everything has already been DTV'ized!

Until?! :)

Nothing happening here ;)

Other than the low power stations ... everything has already been DTV'ized!

Isn't Channel 40 switching to rf channel 40 on the 12th?

Isn't Channel 40 switching to rf channel 40 on the 12th?

WGGB has already built and tested their channel 40 system. The only thing that remains is to turn it on June 12th. And the only impact to viewers will be to re-scan their receivers.

Until?! :)

Nothing happening here ;)

Other than the low power stations ... everything has already been DTV'ized!

I cannot wait until WVIT (30 Hartford) analog shuts down on the 12th.. so I can get WBZ-DT from Boston. Sucks having them on the same UHF 30.

I was so pissed when they pushed the date back..

Don't shoot the messenger :), but ...

There was a FCC meeting yesterday (Wednesday) in which one of the commissioners asked TV stations to keep their analog signal on until July 12th, if they could. The stations would air one month of "nightlight service", a continuous video presentation advising viewers how to hook up a converter box.

In response, over 100 stations have volunteered to keep analog going for another thirty days beyond June 12th. I haven't seen the list of stations, but it's possible that the Connecticut Broadcasters Association could go along with the commissioner's request (as they did when they decided as a group to keep analog on past February 17th). Or, individual stations may decide on their own to keep transmitting analog. So WVIT might still be on 30 come June 13th. (I stress the word "might" because I don't know for sure. We'll find out two Saturdays from now.)

In asking stations to do this, the commissioner was reported to have used the word "please" three times, begging stations not to leave unprepared viewers with no analog TV signals.

Don't shoot the messenger :), but ...

There was a FCC meeting yesterday (Wednesday) in which one of the commissioners asked TV stations to keep their analog signal on until July 12th, if they could. The stations would air one month of "nightlight service", a continuous video presentation advising viewers how to hook up a converter box.

How many times are they going to keep doing this? If someone's not ready at this point, do you really think that another month will make a difference? I read somewhere that the Hartford market was supposedly one of the best prepared markets in the country. Also, is there a link to a source of this story?? I'd love to read it myself.

No cry wolf here! PLEASE!! Do NOT fool all of us a second time! >:(

Supposedly, most of the stations that have volunteered to keep analog on until July 12th are in areas of the country like Texas, where a higher percentage of people use an antenna than subscribe to cable. And, the digital transition will take place on June 12th. The stations that choose to continue their analog version with a nightlight service can only do so if they don't interfere with another station's signal or final channel assignment.

The story was on the Wednesday, June 3rd edition of tvnewsday.com. Going back in the "History" links on my computer only brings me to today's edition. Clicking on "earlier editions" and going to June 3rd does not bring up the article. The closest thing that I can link to is the actual written comments on file in a FCC document. Reference to the volunteer nightlight service is on pages 2 and 3 of the June 3, 2009 document:

http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/presentations/2009/060309/gore.pdf

The articles that I had read mentioned that the commissioner was still looking for more volunteer stations, and once they had a final list, the FCC would publish it early next week. Hopefully, no Connecticut station will decide to participate. But it is conceivable given the past history with the digital transition. Back in February, NBC decided that all their owned and operated stations (of which Channel 30 is one) would delay the switch until June, as did other station owners. It has been suggested on the broadcast industry websites that station groups have agreed to the FCC's pleas so as to curry favor with the new administration and with the FCC in the hopes that, in the years ahead, the FCC will relax caps on the number of stations that a company can own, ease regulations on content, and generally be more receptive to the National Association of Broadcasters' agenda.

In Connecticut not too many changes with stations moving their digital assignments. WTXX-DT currently on channel 12 and will come up on channel 20. Since 20 is their analog channel - would expect the change to occur as scheduled on 12 Jun 2009. Likewise WHPX-DT is moving its digital signal from 34 back to 26, its analog channel. The only other change in CT would be WEDY-DT coming up on channel 6; one would assume that has to be coordinated with the cessation of WLNE's analog service in New Bedford.

A few of the CT analog channels going off-air may help folks in the fringe of the Hartford / New Haven market or even adjacent areas with reception of digital signals on the same channels.

As for keeping the signal on for yet another month: my personal opinion is that it is a waste of the broadcaster's money on the power bill. In those areas of the country where there are a lot of rural viewers - there is typically a separate issue: low power translators. States like New Mexico and Utah have large networks of low power stations ... and many if not most of these are analog, and unaffected (today) by the digital TV transition.

In Connecticut not too many changes with stations moving their digital assignments. WTXX-DT currently on channel 12 and will come up on channel 20. Since 20 is their analog channel - would expect the change to occur as scheduled on 12 Jun 2009. Likewise WHPX-DT is moving its digital signal from 34 back to 26, its analog channel.

WHPX-DT (ION) turned off digital channel 34 and switched off analog channel 26 back in February. They have had their digital on channel 26 since then.

In Connecticut not too many changes with stations moving their digital assignments. WTXX-DT currently on channel 12 and will come up on channel 20. Since 20 is their analog channel - would expect the change to occur as scheduled on 12 Jun 2009. Likewise WHPX-DT is moving its digital signal from 34 back to 26, its analog channel. The only other change in CT would be WEDY-DT coming up on channel 6; one would assume that has to be coordinated with the cessation of WLNE's analog service in New Bedford.

A few of the CT analog channels going off-air may help folks in the fringe of the Hartford / New Haven market or even adjacent areas with reception of digital signals on the same channels.



WTXX is one that worries me.. Boston's WCVB Channel 5 is on UHF 20 also and they are rock solid here in Brimfield. If I remember, the FCC maps showed an overlap for my location.. I'll be pissed if it kills WCVB.
I'm already screwed with the Fox stations in Hartford and Boston being on UHF 31.. I get neither of them since Boston's Fox25 came online. It suxs because I use to get Fox25 on analog before it went down due to failures.

WTXX is one that worries me.. Boston's WCVB Channel 5 is on UHF 20 also and they are rock solid here in Brimfield. If I remember, the FCC maps showed an overlap for my location.. I'll be pissed if it kills WCVB.The FCC generated maps are here: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/
If you look at the WTXX-DT coverage ... you'll see it goes way beyond the eastern border of Hampden County. Of course, there may be some areas on the east side of the Wilbraham Mountain ridge that will have difficulties.

Based on your experience with the FOX stations - my best bet is you are going to have problems with WCVB. Depending on how strong WTXX is (on digital channel 20) you may be able to reject that signal by using an antenna that has decent rejection off its side and back. Keep us posted post transition!

WTXX is one that worries me.. Boston's WCVB Channel 5 is on UHF 20 also and they are rock solid here in Brimfield. If I remember, the FCC maps showed an overlap for my location.. I'll be pissed if it kills WCVB.
I'm already screwed with the Fox stations in Hartford and Boston being on UHF 31.. I get neither of them since Boston's Fox25 came online. It suxs because I use to get Fox25 on analog before it went down due to failures.

I didn't know that WTXX was switching channels, I hope I don't have issues with their signal which comes in perfectly at the moment.

The FCC generated maps are here: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/
If you look at the WTXX-DT coverage ... you'll see it goes way beyond the eastern border of Hampden County. Of course, there may be some areas on the east side of the Wilbraham Mountain ridge that will have difficulties.

Based on your experience with the FOX stations - my best bet is you are going to have problems with WCVB. Depending on how strong WTXX is (on digital channel 20) you may be able to reject that signal by using an antenna that has decent rejection off its side and back. Keep us posted post transition!

It happened.. thanks again FCC!

I don't get WCVB anymore or the crappy CW station from Hartford.

Right now I have a Clearstream 4 antenna.. might look into a directional antenna to point towards Boston. But, I need to do some research.. any suggestions?

I now have WBZ-DT from Boston since the NBC in Hartford analog is finally off the air.

I just find that it's kinda stupid on the FCC's part to have markets so close use the same channels. Granted with Hartford being close to NYC broadcast market and all the stations they have..

I just find that it's kinda stupid on the FCC's part to have markets so close use the same channels. Granted with Hartford being close to NYC broadcast market and all the stations they have..
WFSB and WCBS in New York are both on 33, which is causing problems with viewers in Western CT as well. What were they thinking? I suspect that we will see some frequency changes at some point. I'm wondering why the engineers at the stations whose signals interfere with each other weren't trying to get this resolved before now.

Anyone having trouble with ABC40? I rescanned today and now i have no signal at all....

Anyone having trouble with ABC40? I rescanned today and now i have no signal at all....

Yes, I was very surprised when it didn't appear when I did my rescan. But, there are at least two reports on the Hartford forum that WGGB did indeed move to digital channel 40 and is being received by some forum members.

Yes, I was very surprised when it didn't appear when I did my rescan. But, there are at least two reports on the Hartford forum that WGGB did indeed move to digital channel 40 and is being received by some forum members.

That's funny, i just got back from the Hartford forum and read that too. Thanks for the heads up though. I'm curious, if people in CT are rescanning and getting the signal, why can't i and i live on the border??? I'm going to rescan again.

How is WTXX-DT (CW) channel 20 doing for those of you north of the border? I'm 5 miles or less from Rattlesnake Mountain, so the difference between the old signal on channel 12 and the new one on channel 20 is negligible.

It it makes you guys feel any better about digital TV, I'm getting nothing from any of the "big 3" (WWLP, WGGB and WGBY) here in southern Hartford County.

Lastly, what happens to WSHM-LP (CBS) on channel 67? Will they be digital and on what channel?

How is WTXX-DT (CW) channel 20 doing for those of you north of the border? I'm 5 miles or less from Rattlesnake Mountain, so the difference between the old signal on channel 12 and the new one on channel 20 is negligible.

It it makes you guys feel any better about digital TV, I'm getting nothing from any of the "big 3" (WWLP, WGGB and WGBY) here in southern Hartford County.

Lastly, what happens to WSHM-LP (CBS) on channel 67? Will they be digital and on what channel?

I'm getting a signal around 65 for WTXX. (anything over 40 usually comes in) I had it before, so i was surprised when it showed up.

I'm getting solid signals on WWLP and WGBY, nothing on WGGB.

As for WSHM and FOX40, i don't bother. I pull in WFSB and WTIC from CT.

Yes, I was very surprised when it didn't appear when I did my rescan. But, there are at least two reports on the Hartford forum that WGGB did indeed move to digital channel 40 and is being received by some forum members.

OK, i just saw something on the ABC40 website that said you may have to rescan a couple of times to pick it up. I'll do that after the Sox game.:D
Ugh, as i type this the Phillies just tied it...:mad:

How is WTXX-DT (CW) channel 20 doing for those of you north of the border?Booming in. All three channels from that tower have the same signal level - WTXX, WTIC, WEDH. Solid with just a loop antenna north and east of Springfield.Lastly, what happens to WSHM-LP (CBS) on channel 67? Will they be digital and on what channel?WSHM-LP has a construction permit to build WSHM-LD on channel 41. That CP also has a change of location from Mt. Tom to a hill in Montgomery MA (west of Westfield MA). I drove by the site a month or two ago and I didn't see anything there. Here are some links to the FCC information:
WSHM-LD facility ID 168233 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=168233)
WSHM-LP facility ID 67980 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=67980)

Post switch: reception from the hills of Shutesbury, southern Franklin county MA. 3/33, 8/10, 20/20, 24/45, 30/35, 40/55, 57/22, 59/, 61/31 all very solid on the south antenna, still no lock from 22(11). East antenna, for the first time am watching 2/19,4/30, 7/7 from Boston and 12/13 from RI. North antenna still gets 11/49 from Keene, but now gets 41/24 Vermont public and 31/25. All new reception can be traced to analog jamming now off the air. It looks like the only analog that stayed on I am receiving is some Boston VHF.

Post switch: and 12/13 from RI.

Can you receive 64 (virtual 64, RF12) from here in Providence?

12/13 are using a common antenna, and 12 is @ 30kW versus 13's 18kW.

I know we've received reception reports from Danvers on both channels before.

Post switch: reception from the hills of Shutesbury, southern Franklin county MA. 3/33, 8/10, 20/20, 24/45, 30/35, 40/55, 57/22, 59/, 61/31 all very solid on the south antenna, still no lock from 22(11). East antenna, for the first time am watching 2/19,4/30, 7/7 from Boston and 12/13 from RI. North antenna still gets 11/49 from Keene, but now gets 41/24 Vermont public and 31/25. All new reception can be traced to analog jamming now off the air. It looks like the only analog that stayed on I am receiving is some Boston VHF.

WCTX-DT (MY) of New Haven is on channel 39. Do you receive Worcester stations at all with your setup?

this didn't turn up in a search of the forum: wwlp no longer passing digital audio via comcast (used to be the only one that did!); no response to inquiries to wwlp. What do you OTA receivers hear, is this a comcast problem or wwlp?

tnx much

this didn't turn up in a search of the forum: wwlp no longer passing digital audio via comcast (used to be the only one that did!); no response to inquiries to wwlp. What do you OTA receivers hear, is this a comcast problem or wwlp?Can you elaborate more on this - not sure I understand what the issue is. The same digital stream being transmitted on WWLP-DT should also be found on Comcast 822.

RPM,

I'm not receiving digital 5.1 from Comcast 822: receiver shows "Dolby Digital [2/0]" & no blue light, while the other HD channels show "Dolby Digital [3/2]" w/ the blue light on. Also, the 2/0 sound seems slightly out of synch w/ the video.

So my question is, does WWLP no longer broadcast DD 5.1, or should I pursue w/ Comcast that maybe they're not passing it through? I'm assuming it's not my equipment since all the other channels work.

Thanks for any guidance!

Al

I'm not receiving digital 5.1 from Comcast 822: receiver shows "Dolby Digital [2/0]" & no blue light, while the other HD channels show "Dolby Digital [3/2]" w/ the blue light on. Also, the 2/0 sound seems slightly out of synch w/ the video.Ah - OK - thanks, now I understand. Yes - WWLP-DT is currently broadcasting Dolby 2/0 (stereo). Work is underway to return the Dolby 5.1 encoding.

Well I'm pleased that I did the big switch from cable to OTA FREE DIGITAL TV saving a lot and actually having fewer channels has the family more focused to watch just a few good programs.

Nice when WWLP finally uses it extra bandwith.

Please God Let it Be RetroTV.

TVNewsday is reporting today (Thursday, 7/23) that Retro TV Network has signed with Springfield low-power station WESA, on analog Channel 34, to carry the network. No exact starting date was indicated. At some point in the future, WESA will cease analog broadcasting and flash-cut to digital.

I get a very snowy Channel 34 at my location, and checked it today at 5:15PM. For now it is still affiliated with something called the AMGTV network (http://www.amgtv.tv/html/programs.htm).

I also get a very snowy Channel 48 (WRNT), which is a Hartford low-power analog station that is a Retro TV affiliate. Many times when I check this channel, it is either a black screen with the Channel 48 ID in the lower left corner of the screen, or color bars with the channel ID superimposed in the lower left. This can go on for a few days in a row, so it looks like everything is on "automatic pilot" at this station, and no human being is "minding the store".

TVNewsday is reporting today (Thursday, 7/23) that Retro TV Network has signed with Springfield low-power station WESA, on analog Channel 34, to carry the network. No exact starting date was indicated. At some point in the future, WESA will cease analog broadcasting and flash-cut to digital.

I get a very snowy Channel 34 at my location, and checked it today at 5:15PM. For now it is still affiliated with something called the AMGTV network (http://www.amgtv.tv/html/programs.htm).

I also get a very snowy Channel 48 (WRNT), which is a Hartford low-power analog station that is a Retro TV affiliate. Many times when I check this channel, it is either a black screen with the Channel 48 ID in the lower left corner of the screen, or color bars with the channel ID superimposed in the lower left. This can go on for a few days in a row, so it looks like everything is on "automatic pilot" at this station, and no human being is "minding the store".


Yes I Get it OK , kinda Snowy But Watchable, I've Prayed for RetroTV to come to Spfld, Hopefully Soon

... Springfield low-power station WESA on analog channel 34 ... channel 48 (WRNT) which is a Hartford low-power analog station that is a Retro TV affiliateBoth stations have the same licensee: R AND S BROADCASTING LLC. The FCC web site lists their office in Wethersfield CT.

Many times when I check this channel, it is either a black screen with the Channel 48 ID in the lower left corner of the screen, or color bars with the channel ID superimposed in the lower left. This can go on for a few days in a row, so it looks like everything is on "automatic pilot" at this station, and no human being is "minding the store".Sounds like it. Not uncommon for a lot of stations that operate in translator mode. Postings on the radio-info.com board suggests that maybe there is a satellite drop-out for the network feed - sounds plausible based on your description.

Anyone have a change to Charter's QAM?

A neighbor said He doesn't have 86-1, 86-2, 86-3 and 90-3 anymore.

Anyone have a change to Charter's QAM?
Yes - within the last few days (maybe over the weekend?). WWLP's channel assignement changed. I don't have the info handy - maybe a rescan and review of what was found?

Yes - within the last few days (maybe over the weekend?). WWLP's channel assignement changed. I don't have the info handy - maybe a rescan and review of what was found?

It's for my neighbor.. I got rid of the crappy charter service for TV. I still have internet from them.. no other high speed available in town.:mad:

My Brother-in-law has FiOS out in Bedford.. I'll never see it out here, but WOW is it nice.

Interesting.. I've noticed that pretty much on all the AVS OTA boards, that some destinations are reaching days or even weeks before anything new is posted. Only a year ago, posts, topics and replies were being added within minutes or hours of each other.

Could this mean that the DTV transition in MA. has gone better than expected and the majority of folks are basking in the quality of digital TV entertainment? Or have more become frustrated and just gone to ADS? (cable or satellite).

I have a cheapie u-75R UHF antenna from radio shack and a basic pre-amp. I'm in East Longmeadow close to CT border. right now I am receiving:
Solid signal:
3.1
3.2
3.3
8.1
20.1
20.2
24.1
24.2
30.1
30.2
30.3
40.1
40.2
57.1
57.2
57.3
57.4
61.1

Sometimes solid signal:
59.1

Have seen once or twice:
22.1
10.1
54.1

Channels I'd like to get:
26.1 or 69.1 (ION) and 22.1

I was thinking about getting a deep fringe VHF/UHF antenna. Is anyone in my area getting these channels or any other channels I am missing? Would getting a better antenna make it possible or should I save my $$

22.1 is VHF channel 11. I'm in longmeadow, best to use a VHF with joiner to your UHF antenna.

I have a cheapie u-75R UHF antenna from radio shack and a basic pre-amp. I'm in East Longmeadow close to CT border. right now I am receiving:
Solid signal:
3.1
3.2
3.3
8.1
20.1
20.2
24.1
24.2
30.1
30.2
30.3
40.1
40.2
57.1
57.2
57.3
57.4
61.1

Sometimes solid signal:
59.1

Have seen once or twice:
22.1
10.1
54.1

Channels I'd like to get:
26.1 or 69.1 (ION) and 22.1

I was thinking about getting a deep fringe VHF/UHF antenna. Is anyone in my area getting these channels or any other channels I am missing? Would getting a better antenna make it possible or should I save my $$

I get all of the above and 59.1 and 59.2

I have a DB2 pointed to Hartford that just happens to pick up back signal from Mt Tom (40.1.. & 57.1....) 22.1 needs its own VHF pointed to Mt ??? i feed both into a joiner then into mast head amp.

Very happy with DTV.. have dropped cable altogether. Just DTV and netflix.

I get all of the above and 59.1 and 59.2

I have a DB2 pointed to Hartford that just happens to pick up back signal from Mt Tom (40.1.. & 57.1....) 22.1 needs its own VHF pointed to Mt ??? i feed both into a joiner then into mast head amp.

Very happy with DTV.. have dropped cable altogether. Just DTV and netflix.

I use Tivo with my OTA which gives me access to streaming netflix and pay per view with amazon. I also get tivo content which some is decent. I mostly record everything and just watch it later. The only thing I miss is NESN and ESPN. Although with the Pats starting soon I won't miss any football. cutthecable are you getting any albany stations? or 26.1 or 69.1? What town are u in?

I use Tivo with my OTA which gives me access to streaming netflix and pay per view with amazon. I also get tivo content which some is decent. I mostly record everything and just watch it later. The only thing I miss is NESN and ESPN. Although with the Pats starting soon I won't miss any football. cutthecable are you getting any albany stations? or 26.1 or 69.1? What town are u in?

Hi! I'm in Longmeadow MA. I don't get 26.1 or 69.1.

Yeah I'm a little miffed that football went to NESN/ESPN but have watched a lot of NYY baseball on 59.1 (MyTV). Also 20.2 has a bit variety also, even sci-fi now.

For netflix we watch a lot of movies & documentary programs online using my sons MS Xbox 360 that feeds the big tv. Works great. Nettlix will soon be available on Playstation and I expect Sony DVD players. This is a great way to watch programs.

I think the "cable TV" model is really at risk.

Bottom line is with digital OTA I'm saving money. I have Verizon landline phone using measured service and DSL (3mbs) total bill is about $46/month. Switched long distance to Pioneer Telephone and spend about $10/month on a gizzillion long-distance/international calls. Netflix is $9/month for 1 DVD at a time (we turn around 2 to 3 per week) and unlimited online content.

DTV brought HD OTA into my house for free.

Cheers!

Anyone know what's going on with Ch.34 and Retro TV, they were supposed to be up and running by now, but to date the old programming on the channel is still in effect. Is this still happenning?

Anyone know what's going on with Ch.34 and Retro TV, they were supposed to be up and running by now, but to date the old programming on the channel is still in effect. Is this still happenning?

Like you, I've been checking Channel 34 every once in awhile to see if the change of programming providers has occurred. This station currently still shows Ringside Boxing, hunting programs, and obscure movies.

The article that I read on what is now called TVNewsCheck.com gave a long list of stations across the country that were switching to the Retro TV network, but gave no specific dates for the change. Springfield, Massachusetts and WESA/34 were on the list, although the article had accidentally transposed the call letters to read WSEA.

Retro TV's website has a map of the U.S. showing all its affiliates. There is a blue dot over Springfield, and when you roll your mouse over the dot, a box pops up listing "WSEA-DT". Again, the call letters are in the wrong order, and this low-power station does not yet have a digital version. If it did, analog channel 34 would be video snow. Based on the FCC website, it may be 2010-2011 before WESA flash cuts to digital channel 34. Lower down on the Retro TV webpage, most of the Retro affiliates have a link near their call letters to a coverage map to show where Retro can be seen. I noticed that neither Springfield or Hartford have this coverage map link. (See the Retro TV webpage here: http://www.myretrotv.com/affiliates.html#)

The best thing that I can suggest is to keep checking 34 occasionally. If I happen to read anything new about this I'll post the information here. Maybe Channel 34's contract with the AMGTV network runs until a certain time, like December 31st, so it can't legally make the switch until its current programming contract expires.

I manually went through Charters channel lineup yesterday quickly with my new Tivo and here is what i got for unscrambled QAM channels. Please add others if you know of them I may have missed a few.

QAM Channels
86.1 CBS Hartford HD
86.2 CBS weather LD
86.3 CBS Spfld LD

88.9 – on demand
89.2 – CSN HD
90.1 – Fox 6 Spfld HD
90.3 – NBC 22 Spfld HD

102.1 PBS WGBY HD
102.2 – FOX 61 HD
102.3 – PBS WGBY
102.5 PBS WGBY
102.6 PBS WGBY
103.3 NESN HD

BTW I also do OTA with a basic Radio Shack roof antenna and I get
3.1,3.2,3.3
8.1
18.1,18.2,18.3
20.1
24.1
30.1,30.2,30.3
40.1,40.2
57.1,57.2,57.3,57.4 (most of the time) - thinking about an pre-amp to help..
61.1

What stinks about tivo is they don't have guide info for QAM but they do for OTA so this is why i have it.

Well , looks like Charter has switched their QAM programming as you guys have mentioned. I havent found a single HD channel. Does anyone have an updated list?

Good afternoon everyone,
We will progressively be adding 17 new HD channels starting on October 20th and continuing until November 10th. Here are the proposed additions. The actual channels are yet to be confirmed due to pending contractual agreements but we should have a confirmed list a few weeks before the launch. The channels will be launched on the Oxford Headend/Chicopee Headend and our CT Headends.


USA HD 743 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
BRAVO HD 702 20-Oct-2009 HDTIER1
DISNEY CHANNEL HD 753 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
LIFETIME HD 748 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
TRAVEL CHANNEL HD 738 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
CNN HD 728 27-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
SCIENCE CHANNEL HD 715 27-Oct-2009 HDTIER2
CNBC HD 723 27-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
HALLMARK MOVIE CHANNEL SD 194 27-Oct-2009 Digital View Plus
HALLMARK MOVIE CHANNEL HD 707 27-Oct-2009 HDTIER2
SPEED CHANNEL HD 763 27-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
SYFY HD 720 3-Nov-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
AMERICAN MOVE CLASSICS HD 705 3-Nov-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
IFC HD 703 3-Nov-2009 HDTIER2
WE HD 750 3-Nov-2009 HDTIER1
FUSE HD 710 3-Nov-2009 HDTIER2
NHL NETWORK HD 765 10-Nov-2009 HDSPORTS
CARTOON NETWORK HD 756 10-Nov-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)

Please.. we do NOT matter to Charter! Charter is the worst customer service I have ever dealt with.. PERIOD! The last draw was when I ended up deciding to cancel TV service.. the guy said there is no such thing as free OTA HD TV. Tried to tell me I have to pay for OTA HD TV!!!!!!! (Rep was in South Carolina if I remember)

Within 5 calls.. I had 3 different prices for TV and internet service... all in the same week. I decided the basic(not extended) TV was not worth the money for the crappy channel line-up Charter offers in the area. I get the local stations I want all in HD.. FOR FREE!! I had a great package and would have stayed if it was extended. But to charge $45 for just local TV in SD(analog) and then another $40 for internet?? I was paying $5 for the Basic TV.. I can see going up $10 or $15.. but to $45?????? It was first offered at $29, then $15, back to $29 and ended up at $45 and I had had it and had them pull the plug ASAP.

If Verizon had 7mb DSL available at my location.. I would have left Charter completely!

Please.. we do NOT matter to Charter! Charter is the worst customer service I have ever dealt with.. PERIOD! The last draw was when I ended up deciding to cancel TV service.. the guy said there is no such thing as free OTA HD TV. Tried to tell me I have to pay for OTA HD TV!!!!!!! (Rep was in South Carolina if I remember)

Within 5 calls.. I had 3 different prices for TV and internet service... all in the same week. I decided the basic(not extended) TV was not worth the money for the crappy channel line-up Charter offers in the area. I get the local stations I want all in HD.. FOR FREE!! I had a great package and would have stayed if it was extended. But to charge $45 for just local TV in SD(analog) and then another $40 for internet?? I was paying $5 for the Basic TV.. I can see going up $10 or $15.. but to $45?????? It was first offered at $29, then $15, back to $29 and ended up at $45 and I had had it and had them pull the plug ASAP.

If Verizon had 7mb DSL available at my location.. I would have left Charter completely!

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George

I canceled TV service.. and I'm happy with the FREE OTA HD and I also receive the Boston station I want in addition to the Springfield stations. I have no plans to go back to over paying for local TV service.

But if Charter added the Boston stations BACK and killed the Hartford stations they gave us instead that don't offer us any Massachusetts news or weather like the Boston station do.. I might go back. Yes, I'm in the Springfield market, but I boarder the Boston DMA and they have a hell of a lot more coverage for my area than the Hartford stations.

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George

Thanks for trying I guess...

Anyone else notice this has been way off lately - particularly on network content. See it on both OTA and cable (Comcast).

Hey, I have a question for those of you who do live in Hampshire/Hampden/Franklin counties: I know that Springfield has its own DMA, but do your cable providers give Boston channels (4, 5, 7, etc) out that far west? Sometimes the Boston channels cover the Springfield area and beyond during severe weather events out in western Massachusetts, even though they are "responsible" for covering as far west as the western Worcester county border line, which is halfway between Worcester and Springfield.

Hey, I have a question for those of you who do live in Hampshire/Hampden/Franklin counties: I know that Springfield has its own DMA, but do your cable providers give Boston channels (4, 5, 7, etc) out that far west? Sometimes the Boston channels cover the Springfield area and beyond during severe weather events out in western Massachusetts, even though they are "responsible" for covering as far west as the western Worcester county border line, which is halfway between Worcester and Springfield.Franklin county still has some of the Boston four major networks on cable; I think they are gone from Hampden and Hampshire county for some time now. In reality only the far eastern end of Hampden and Hampshire county can receive Boston TV and that has been also affected by the DTV conversion as well. I currently have DirecTV and there are no Boston affiliates provided be it that I live in Hampden county. I do get the CW from DC and San Diego (actually XETV from Mexico) on the satellite for out of market coverage.

Comcast Springfield still carries WBZ-DT on analog channel 8 and WSBK-DT on channel 14. if you have a QAM capable tuner (not the COMCAST DIGITAL box) they do offer the rest of the Boston TV stations in SD, although they will NEVER tell you about it: you have to scan your QAM tuner to find them and identify them manually.

Comcast Springfield still carries WBZ-DT on analog channel 8 and WSBK-DT on channel 14. if you have a QAM capable tuner (not the COMCAST DIGITAL box) they do offer the rest of the Boston TV stations in SD, although they will NEVER tell you about it: you have to scan your QAM tuner to find them and identify them manually.

Now that is interesting.. because I heard from WBZ that they have an agreement with WFSB? (3 in Hartford) not to be carried in this market to give that half a$$ low power CBS3 Springfield station they have a chance in the market.

When I had Charter.. we only had Channel 5 from Boston. But yet on the antenna I can receive WBZ and WHDH and some others from Boston. And on the back of the antenna the Springfield and Hartford stations.

Last week we had a school bus accident in town.. WHDH from Boston was LIVE from Brimfield and we don't receive it on cable. They had more coverage than the Springfield stations! Of course nothing from Hartford, but yet charter removed the Boston stations to give us Hartford stations??

Waiting for charter to wake up and listen.. because customers don't matter to charter.

RobM

Wow.....that seems like a huge mess over there.

I'm in Bristol County, MA, which is part of the Providence DMA, so we have issues with Boston TV as well. For example, WNAC, which is FOX Providence, blacks out WFXT during primetime/sporting events to pull in ratings. I mean, do they think they look tough over blacking out FOX Boston for primetime Cops? The Providence stations hardly cover Bristol County anyway, as they're more concerned with Rhode Island, and Boston stations are down here often. A lot of people here are furious at Comcast too, for the same reasons that you're giving out.

Here's another question: Did you ever, at any point, receive Boston HD channels while the Springfield stations were still not at HD yet?

Here's another question: Did you ever, at any point, receive Boston HD channels while the Springfield stations were still not at HD yet?

Huh?? lost me... do you mean on Cable? If so, I don't recall.

Have a question for those of you in Springfield. I live in the central berkshires and when I point my antenna south east, I can get channel WGGB and Fox-6, but have not been able to pull in any other stations from Springfield. I can get all the Albany stations except WCWN with no problem - I have deep fringe VHF and UHF antennas with amps. Before the transition, I was able to get analog 3 from Hartford and 45 PBS from New Haven. According to TVFOOL, channel 22 (57) has the same chance of coming in and the noie level for WWLP is 0.0 and is higher in the list than many of the Albany stations. BTW, ALbany and Springfield is equi-distance for me. My question is is there something special about 40's tower that allows that to come in, and where is channel 57s (22s) tower in relation.

Is anyone else having trouble getting WGBY off the air the last couple of days? I usually get them in fairly well (I have to be pointing directly at Mt Tom from down here in Middletown), but last night and this morning, I was having a lot more difficulty receiving them.

Before the transition, I was able to get analog 3 from Hartford and 45 PBS from New Haven.Analog 3 is on digital 33 from the same tower and has a pretty good signal. From your location any chance there's something else on 33 that could interfer with your reception? Can you receive any of the Hartford stations that are on Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington CT? On the big tower are WTXX 20 (digital 20), WTIC 61 (digital 31) and WEDH 24 (digital 45).

According to TVFOOL, channel 22 (57) has the same chance of coming in and the noie level for WWLP is 0.0 and is higher in the list than many of the Albany stations. My question is is there something special about 40's tower that allows that to come in, and where is channel 57s (22s) tower in relation.Both WGGB 40 (digital 40) and WGBY 57 (digital 22) transmit from atop Mt Tom. There is a slight chance that a station in southeast MA, which is also on digital 22, may be causing interference to WGBY. WWLP-DT 22 (digital 11) is VHF - and you would need an appropriate antenna. WWLP transmits from Provin Mountain about 10 miles west of Springfield. Depending on the terrain you may have problems with reception. In the past could you view WWLP analog on 22? If so - what was the quality of the picture?

Both WGGB 40 (digital 40) and WGBY 57 (digital 22) transmit from atop Mt Tom. There is a slight chance that a station in southeast MA, which is also on digital 22, may be causing interference to WGBY.
Again, it seems that co-channel interference is wreaking havoc on digital reception. I have serious problems with WTXX (20) and WTIC (31) when conditions are favorable and the Boston stations start booming in.

Is anyone else having trouble getting WGBY off the air the last couple of days? I usually get them in fairly well (I have to be pointing directly at Mt Tom from down here in Middletown), but last night and this morning, I was having a lot more difficulty receiving them.
Seems that everything was fine with WGBY last night about 6:30 when I checked.

Seems that everything was fine with WGBY last night about 6:30 when I checked.I think CBS was going to put a low power channel 22 on the WLIW tower on Long Island to help with the issue of WCBS and WFSB both on digital 33. I wonder if that is accurate (and on the air) if propagation is causing problems for your reception of WGBY. Also - WLWC 28 (digital 22) in the New Bedford MA area could also cause co-channel problems.

Analog 3 is on digital 33 from the same tower and has a pretty good signal. From your location any chance there's something else on 33 that could interfer with your reception? Can you receive any of the Hartford stations that are on Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington CT? On the big tower are WTXX 20 (digital 20), WTIC 61 (digital 31) and WEDH 24 (digital 45).

Both WGGB 40 (digital 40) and WGBY 57 (digital 22) transmit from atop Mt Tom. There is a slight chance that a station in southeast MA, which is also on digital 22, may be causing interference to WGBY. WWLP-DT 22 (digital 11) is VHF - and you would need an appropriate antenna. WWLP transmits from Provin Mountain about 10 miles west of Springfield. Depending on the terrain you may have problems with reception. In the past could you view WWLP analog on 22? If so - what was the quality of the picture?

Thanks so much for the reply. I could occasionally get 33 (3) if the night atmospheric conditions were just right - but only for a few minutes at a time. I have a deep fring VHF antenna - in fact the best and most reliable reception I get from Albany is from RF 6,7,12,13 - that is why I am surprised I am€ not getting rf 11 (22) - VHF tends to hug the mountains here, and I get great reception. One major problem is that I have 2 radio towers a few thousand feet southeast of me and in the way of Springfield. I have an FM trap on my amp, but it may be unable to filter it out. I am in a valley and I can only get rf 43 from Albany on a richocet off Bousquet Mountain. Before the transition, I got analog 22 with snow but watcheable, 45 came in a bit more snowy, 3 was clear and reliable. Any suggestions for better getting Springfield stations were be appreciated. There is a channel 34 which is Albany's PBS - any chance that there is a adjacent channel interfernce?

I have a deep fring VHF antenna - in fact the best and most reliable reception I get from Albany is from RF 6,7,12,13 - that is why I am surprised I am not getting rf 11 (22) - VHF tends to hug the mountains here, and I get great reception. One major problem is that I have 2 radio towers a few thousand feet southeast of me and in the way of Springfield. I have an FM trap on my amp, but it may be unable to filter it out.Another problem that has been noted with high band VHF digital television is when two FM station's frequencies are added together and end up in one of the VHF television channels. Sometimes mixing products of FM stations can cause this issue. Channel 11 is 198-204 MHz ... so if you are near any FM stations add their frequencies together and see if that value is in the 198-204 range.

Before the transition, I got analog 22 with snow but watcheableIf it was snowy that means you didn't have a very good signal. Often when the analog channel was snowy, quite snowy or periodically lost color - you won't be able to decode the digital channel.

There is a channel 34 which is Albany's PBS - any chance that there is a cochannel interfernce?WMHT-DT digital channel 34 shouldn't interfer with anything coming from the Springfield MA area. In Hartford the three network stations are on 31, 33 and 35 (WTIC, WFSB and WVIT).

I think CBS was going to put a low power channel 22 on the WLIW tower on Long Island to help with the issue of WCBS and WFSB both on digital 33. I wonder if that is accurate (and on the air) if propagation is causing problems for your reception of WGBY. Also - WLWC 28 (digital 22) in the New Bedford MA area could also cause co-channel problems.

Hi Bob,

I would think WCAX-DT on 22 from the top of Mansfield would be more problematic than WCBS' low powered translator on WLIW's Plainview tower (The translator is licensed to 11kW). I know Jeff Lehmann has received WPTZ-DT 14 from his house using a good antenna and on Mount Wachusett, you can get the signals from Mansfield without a whole lot of trouble, so there is the chance propogation from the north could also cause issues. As you said, WLWC is the biggest offender in that area, as we both know, and have seen first hand.

--Mike

I would think WCAX-DT on 22 from the top of Mansfield would be more problematic than WCBS' low powered translator on WLIW's Plainview tower (The translator is licensed to 11kW). Mike / others: I think we have two separate discussions going on here :)

I was replying to n1sfe who is in the Middletown CT area. That's a long way from Mt Mansfield VT - but probably only 50 miles from WLIW (at least half of which over water). Probably quite a bit further over to WLWC in Freetown MA - maybe 90 miles? Not sure what the terrain is like in that direction ... but given previously experienced interference from WLWC it is plausible that WLWC could cause issues in southern CT with WGBY-DT reception.

Hi,
I live in Holyoke and up until a few weeks ago, I was able to get the major channels in HD through my TV's tuner.

For Instance NBC (WWLP) was 22-001
CBS was 40-001

For some reason they no longer work. Are they broadcasting in a different channel now?

I live in Holyoke and up until a few weeks ago, I was able to get the major channels in HD through my TV's tuner. For Instance NBC (WWLP) was 22-001 - CBS was 40-001 - For some reason they no longer work. Are they broadcasting in a different channel now?Over the air or via Comcast? If on cable - Comcast recently made some changes on where a lot of the digital channels are located internally on the cable system (which would affect you if you are not using a Comcast box). Do a rescan. If over the air - check to see if you have an antenna or antenna feedline problem (especially if you are having problems with reception of multiple channels).

Also - 40.1 would be WGGB ABC40 and 40.2 would be FOX6. There is no digital CBS yet in the Springfield market. CBS is on WSHM-LP low power analog channel 67 from Mt. Tom. And also as WFSB-DT 3.2 from Hartford CT. Both in standard definition.

It's over the air

It seems like all of this coincided when comcast made their changes to require everyone to use digital box if they want any channel over 11 or so.

So, i was able to get 22-001, 40-001, 41-001 (CBS), 41-003?? (FOX it may have been 002)

In any case, I dont have an aentena. I had a 42 inch plasma tv that has an HD tuner built in. I used to get all those channels, but now I dont.

Mike / others: I think we have two separate discussions going on here :)

I was replying to n1sfe who is in the Middletown CT area. That's a long way from Mt Mansfield VT - but probably only 50 miles from WLIW (at least half of which over water). Probably quite a bit further over to WLWC in Freetown MA - maybe 90 miles? Not sure what the terrain is like in that direction ... but given previously experienced interference from WLWC it is plausible that WLWC could cause issues in southern CT with WGBY-DT reception.

That would be my error. I quickly read Middletown, and thought he was in Middlefield, MA, the town out near Pittsfield. My mistake on that one. Carry on! :D

I was replying to n1sfe who is in the Middletown CT area. That's a long way from Mt Mansfield VT - but probably only 50 miles from WLIW (at least half of which over water). Probably quite a bit further over to WLWC in Freetown MA - maybe 90 miles? Not sure what the terrain is like in that direction ... but given previously experienced interference from WLWC it is plausible that WLWC could cause issues in southern CT with WGBY-DT reception.
I'm not sure whether I was experiencing interference from another station the other night- i suspect it might have been weather conditions or icing on WGBY's antenna.

I seem to be quite a distance from the NY station (I also have quite a bit of terrain to my Southwest- I can't even get WTNH or WCTX) , but I do have a pretty clear shot out to the Southeast and the East. I'm picking up WHPX in New London on the backside of the antenna rock-solid. Maybe I am picking up the station in the Providence area when conditions are favorable.

WPXQ-DT (ION) is on digital channel 17 and has their transmitter in western Rhode Island. If I move my indoor antenna the right way, I'll get a decent signal here in New Britain's south end.

It's over the air. It seems like all of this coincided when comcast made their changes to require everyone to use digital box if they want any channel over 11 or so.

So, i was able to get 22-001, 40-001, 41-001 (CBS), 41-003?? (FOX it may have been 002). In any case, I dont have an aentena. I had a 42 inch plasma tv that has an HD tuner built in. I used to get all those channels, but now I dont.OK - so your TV is connected to Comcast cable ... and it sounds like you had scanned the cable at one point and were getting what they call "channels in the clear". The local "over the air" channels are (were) put up on Comcast's system including their PSIP (digital) channel numbers. So your TV would display them like 22-1, 40-1, etc. They would have likely been: 22-1 (WWLP NBC), 40-1 (WGGB ABC), 40-2 (WGGB FOX), 41-1 (WSHM CBS) 41-3 (WSHM weather), 57-1 (WGBY PBS) and likely upwards of three more 57 sub channels.

Have you tried to rescan with the TV? Comcast can dynamically move where anything is on their system. If you are using one of their boxes it will learn automatically about these changes. If you have a TV that can receive the digital channels that are in the clear - you will have to rescan to find them.

It is also always possible that Comcast: has put the locals on channels (frequencies) your TV can't receive, or they have encoded them in such a way that they are no longer in the clear. Maybe someone else on here who's a Comcast subscriber can tell us more - or give the Comcast folks a call.

So, i was able to get 22-001, 40-001, 41-001 (CBS), 41-003??One more quick thing that often leads to some confusion. The CBS affiliate for the Springfield MA market is WSHM-LP. This is a low power analog station on channel 67 from Mt. Tom. It is owned by Meredith and originated at the WFSB facility in Rocky Hill CT. The same programming can be seen on WFSB-DT 3.2 (which is probably used to feed the low power channel 67 transmitter on Mt Tom). WFSB likely also feeds Comcast and Charter a direct feed of the WSHM "CBS 3 Springfield" programming.

WSHM has been granted a license to build a low power digital channel 41 transmitter in Montgomery MA (just a bit west of Westfield MA). That's why you are seeing the CBS programming on the Comcast system showing up with channel 41 designation. At last check the WSHM-LD was not on the air yet.

How would a low-power digital signal from there reach to Springfield? I can't see it happening.

How would a low-power digital signal from there reach to Springfield? I can't see it happening. Go to:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html
Enter WSHM (or any callsign) and click: Submit Data
Click on the desired callsign. Scroll down ...
Click on the Service Contour map link - and you'll see the transmitter location and predicted coverage area.

Here is a direct link to the what was previously planned for WSHM-LD low power digital channel 41 from Montgomery MA:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=LD1248359.html

At the end of October 2009 it appears there have been some changes. Here is what I have learned from the FCC's web site:

CPTV's WEDY New Haven station had been allocated channel 6 digital. Upon petition from CPTV the FCC updated the table of allotments for New Haven removing channel 6 and replacing it with 41. WEDY now gets channel 41.

Meredith, the owner of WFSB and WSHM-LP, concluded that there would be interference between the New Haven and Springfield channel 41's and has filed a request for a displacement channel of 21 in lieu of channel 41 for Springfield MA.

In that filing Meredith has also noted that they would be locating WSHM-LD channel 21 on the same tower in Wilbraham MA that WESA (channel 34 analog) is located on.

WSHM on cable systems currently has in the PSIP information channel 41 ... and that is also the case with many program guides. I would expect that if/when the WSHM-LD low power station on channel 21 is built that they'll either be using 67 (their analog channel number) or 21 (their digital channel number) in the PSIP.

You can see the proposed channel 21 coverage area from the FCC's TV query web site - see my previous post on how to do that.

In that filing Meredith has also noted that they would be locating WSHM-LD channel 21 on the same tower in Wilbraham MA that WESA (channel 34 analog) is located on.

WSHM on cable systems currently has in the PSIP information channel 41 ... and that is also the case with many program guides. I would expect that if/when the WSHM-LD low power station on channel 21 is built that they'll either be using 67 (their analog channel number) or 21 (their digital channel number) in the PSIP.

You can see the proposed channel 21 coverage area from the FCC's TV query web site - see my previous post on how to do that.
Don't you expect that there will be some adjacent channel interference to WGBY? I had also pointed this out when Meredith was planning on using channel 41 in regards to adjacent channel interference with WGGB. I would think that there should be some spacing of these channels.

Anyone know when WWLP will add 5.1 surround sound and sub channels? I note that the NBC station on 30.1 from Hartford transmits 1080i and 5.1.

Anyone know when WWLP will add 5.1 surround sound and sub channels? I note that the NBC station on 30.1 from Hartford transmits 1080i and 5.1.Bringing back the 5.1 audio is in the works. There are no plans right now for any additional sub channels. The PSIP is announcing 22.2 so that in the event a sub channel were to be added viewers wouldn't have to rescan to get it.

Thanks for the reply. In regards to the sub channels there is the old saying "use it or lose it".

With the telecom (cell) industry looking for additional RF spectrum the Over The Air (OTA) TV unused RF spectrum is under the microscope. Washington/FCC could rule to simply have OTA TV consolidate their channels. For example have WWLP added as sub channel to the likes of channel 40 (Mt Tom) 40.1 ABC 40, 40.2 Fox, 40.3 WWLP.

Remember RF Spectrum is bought through auction, OTA TV spectrum has been free....Washinton now sees that they could auction this spectrum also for $$$$

It is vital that the likes of WWLP look to use the subchannels, even if they just rebroadcast another TV/cable channel like RetroTV, ThisTV or even just music.

I think that PBS's 57 (Mt Tom) full use of all their subchannels is an excellent example of the capabilities of digital TV.

My 5 cents worth.

With the telecom (cell) industry looking for additional RF spectrum the Over The Air (OTA) TV unused RF spectrum is under the microscope. Washington/FCC could rule to simply have WWLP added as sub channel to the likes of channel 40 (Mt Tom) 40.1 ABC 40, 40.2 Fox, 40.3 WWLP.

Then they would all look like crap.

- Trip

Agree. I prefer the HD and 5.1 sound. Sunday football is great.....except when the pats lose. :(

For example have WWLP added as sub channel to the likes of channel 40 (Mt Tom) 40.1 ABC 40, 40.2 Fox, 40.3 WWLP.
The problem with that idea is that each station (WGGB and WWLP) own their own transmission facilities and actually compete with each other. In other countries this IS often the way it works: one company owns the transmission infrastructure and they do the broadcasting of the programming of other companies (channels). But that's not the way it is here.

Plus - as pointed out in another reply - you (or at least I) would not be happy with the picture quality. The current US DTV (ATSC) standard provides for 19.39 mbps of MPEG2 video. Attempting to run two HD feeds in a channel has noticeable picture quality degradation - three would be not worth watching.


It is vital that the likes of WWLP look to use the subchannels, even if they just rebroadcast another TV/cable channel like RetroTV, ThisTV or even just music. A channel is a channel: 19.39 mbps of digital data. You could have one very good looking HD channel, a couple of fairly decent HD channels, four or five SD channels, etc. Just because WWLP has only one sub channel doesn't mean that it is underutilized!

There is also another issue: programming doesn't come free. So every (sub) channel an over-the-air broadcaster airs costs something - even music has license fees. If you have a cable or satellite subscription - part of your monthly fee is used to pay for those channels on a per-subscriber basis. Over-the-air broadcasters have to generate revenue to cover the programming and operating costs (and hopefully make a profit) through advertising.


I think that PBS's 57 (Mt Tom) full use of all their subchannels is an excellent example of the capabilities of digital TV. Unfortunately the picture quality on WGBY-DT channels 57.3 and 57.4 is, in my opinion, almost unwatchable. Way too many artifacts, etc. This is a good example of trying to jam too many subchannels into a single 19.39 mbps DTV stream.

The reason you may be seeing artifacts is due to the station running the combination of bitstreams in 'statistical multiplexing' mode, combined with trying to run two or more interlaced-scanned streams on one carrier.

On my 32 inch sony being fed via a Channel Master converter in SD via S-video I see no artifacts or on the 26inch HDTV for that matter. On the 46 inch sony HDTV 57.2, 57.3, 57.4 don't look too bad, but the resolution obviously drops. For cooking and travel programs this is fine. They generally use 57.1 for HDTV 1080i music and other shows and video has been great.

I think that the move to digital TV has opened up huge possibilities for OTA TV, the broadcast networks need to think outside the box. Just think if CNN was streamed nationwide on a subchannel and in conjunction with the new mobile TV devices that will use the ATSC signal.

There are several factors to the perception of artifacts or the types of artifacts that many times are unfairly blamed on the station:

The 42"+ LCD TVs pixels are square so during sudden contrast changes, some notice the square pixels especially in black or gray areas.

Motion Artifacts. Again with larger screens, 1080i motion artifacts are more apparent, especially if close to the screen. 720P is better for sports or fast motion because of the faster refresh rate even with fewer lines of resolution.

Tuners. Some of the built-in cable cards or ATSC tuner quality and ability to compensate for missing data packets can vary. As mentioned before, some tuner cards also struggle if the station multiplexes more than one HD data stream using variable bandwidth based on motion. If you can do it, stick with fixed bit rates.

Can you elaborate more on this - not sure I understand what the issue is. The same digital stream being transmitted on WWLP-DT should also be found on Comcast 822.

If I'm having constant audio/video sync issues with WWLP-DT on 822 on Comcast, is that an issue with Comcast rebroadcasting the stream or with WWLP's feed? I notice that when I'm watching something in SD (like, say the local news at 11pm) the audio/vido sync is perfect, but when watching a prime time HD show (Law & Order, Tonight Show, etc) the audio (5.1) constantly lags behind the video by a noticeable amount. Not too obvious for straight dialog but very noticeable like if someone knocks on a door and you notice the sounds of the knock are noticeably off from the actual knocks on screen.

Matt: last week a number of changes were made including returning 5.1 audio to WWLP-DT. Interesting that you noted the audio in network programming lagging behind the video. My perception watching it on DirecTV HD was the audio led (was ahead of) the video. I'll be glad to forward any AVS member observations on this. The most helpful reports would include: date and time, source (off-air, sattelite, cable provider and channel, SD/HD) and observation.

Okay, I'll keep a close eye on it and report the particulars as I see them. Thanks.

If I'm having constant audio/video sync issues with WWLP-DT on 822 on Comcast, is that an issue with Comcast rebroadcasting the stream or with WWLP's feed? I notice that when I'm watching something in SD (like, say the local news at 11pm) the audio/vido sync is perfect, but when watching a prime time HD show (Law & Order, Tonight Show, etc) the audio (5.1) constantly lags behind the video by a noticeable amount. Not too obvious for straight dialog but very noticeable like if someone knocks on a door and you notice the sounds of the knock are noticeably off from the actual knocks on screen.

I posted about this back in December - it's been going on for a while. Most obvious on content originating from network (HD).

John

I posted about this back in December - it's been going on for a while. Most obvious on content originating from network (HD).

John

Agreed. A great way to see it is to watch the Tonight Show or any of the NBC late night shows where they show the drummer front and center playing the opening theme of the show. You can clearly see the drum hits are off sync with the visual hits.

Hey Everyone i'll let you guys know when Springfield/Holyoke/Agawam/Chicopee convert for more HD's Internet speed boosts etc. here's the Conversion map as of 2/23/10

*updated map coming when new cities are announced*

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6493/comcastmapma2.png

Have a question for those of you in Springfield. I live in the central berkshires and when I point my antenna south east, I can get channel WGGB and Fox-6, but have not been able to pull in any other stations from Springfield. I can get all the Albany stations except WCWN with no problem - I have deep fringe VHF and UHF antennas with amps. Before the transition, I was able to get analog 3 from Hartford and 45 PBS from New Haven. According to TVFOOL, channel 22 (57) has the same chance of coming in and the noie level for WWLP is 0.0 and is higher in the list than many of the Albany stations. BTW, ALbany and Springfield is equi-distance for me. My question is is there something special about 40's tower that allows that to come in, and where is channel 57s (22s) tower in relation.
To wkomorow ,
Channel 57 Transmitter is located downtown Springfield, and
Channel 22 has a Transmitter located on Tohoben Mounation. I know what you
mean about these so called better new channels. I pulled in more
channels in before the had to switch a digital broadcast. I had 67,
61,59, 57, 54, 51, 50, 48, 42, 38, 34, 30 ,24, 22, 20,18, 8,3 one third
were broadcasting in Spanish but the English was lightly coming out
and could be heared and understood, but now I got two or four of one
Channel. I guess if you get 4 clear channels it's better than three different
Channels with a little snow and programs you would like to watch.

To wkomorow ,
Channel 57 Transmitter is located downtown Springfield, and
Channel 22 has a Transmitter located on Tohoben Mounation.
Channel 57's transmitter in on Mount Tom- along with Channel 40- but with considerably less power. Channel 22 is located on Provin Mountain in Agawam/Westfield- they seem to have less range since they are on RF Channel 11. I can pick up both 57 and 40 in Middletown, CT but cannot get 22.

Thank everyone. Has anything happened to WGGB or has the atmospherics changed with the seasons. I was getting it reliably, now I get occasional drop outs. I do not understand why the Springfield channels elude me. I am equidistant from Albany and Springfield and all but one Albany station are solid. I would prefer watching Springfield news.

On an unrelated issue rumor is that Dish has uplinked the Springfield stations; I would be very pleased if the rules changed and satellite companies were able to offer adjacent DMAs as locals.

Has anything happened to WGGB or has the atmospherics changed with the seasons. I was getting it reliably, now I get occasional drop outs. I do not understand why the Springfield channels elude me.Probably partially due to propagation. Are you having the same issues with WGGB 40 (on RF 40) and WGBY 57 (on RF 22)? They transmit from the same mountain albeit WGBY with less power. The terrain of western Hampden, Hampshire, Franklin as well as Berkshire county affects digital reception. Instead of a bit of snow now and then or a bit of ghosting you get artifacts and/or dropouts.

On an unrelated issue rumor is that Dish has uplinked the Springfield stations; I would be very pleased if the rules changed and satellite companies were able to offer adjacent DMAs as locals.Echostar (Dish Network) has facilities in the Springfield market - but does not currently have satellite capacity. Word on the street is that will change in the coming months.

As for out of market stations - unlikely that's going to happen ... in some cases it may not even be possible due to the spot beam technology that the satellite providers use.

Does anyone have a list of QAM stations available through charter in western mass? I'm in east longmeadow. Any info would be appreciated. thanks!!

What happened to WGGB's program guide information? On both ABC 40 and FOX 6, the epg only displays "DTV Program". This have been going on for a couple of week (at least) now.

Hi I just stopped my cable service and do have a tv tuner box thanks to a friend and hooked up my rca tv antenna to it.

I managed to tune in to 11 channels they don't seem to always come in and I have no idea what channel I am watching as they are not labeled like they were years ago.

I am in need of a local channel list for the Springfield Massachusetts area I live in Ludlow if anyone can point me in that direction it would be great.

The box I'm using is a zenith Digital TV Tuner Converter Box - DTT900 that doesnt have analog-pass through not sure what this means really and an RCA ANT103 - Indoor Passive that claims to be able to pick up locals when the tuner is off I guess but it is not or maybe I am misunderstanding the directions.

Thanks Lisa

It means that the box won't tune in any analog low-power channels which may still be on the air in your area.

When you say you picked up 11 channels, do you mean you received channels 3, 22, 40, 57 and all their subchannels? I know WFSB-DT (CBS) out of Hartford runs "CBS 3" on WFSB 3-2, Eyewitness News NOW on 3-3 and WFSB-Fairfield County on 3-4.

As for local channels, I'm aware of WWLP (NBC), WGGB (ABC) and WGBY (PBS). WGGB-DT 40-2 is known as "FOX 6", alluding to their cable position on most systems.

Hi I'm getting these channels after playing around a bit,

- Channel 3 with 4 sub channels 1-4
-Channel 20 with 2 sub channels 1-2 but all broken up, no audio
-Channel 22 only 1 channel 1
-Channel 40 with 2 sub channels 1 and 2
-Channel 57 with 4 sub channels 1-4
-Channel 61 with 1 channel 1

Not bad but I would like to know if I'm missing any that
I should get as the sub channels are something new to me.

Also I'm using the RF cable and have coaxial not hooked up which
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to have both hooked at the same time
which one has better reception RF or coaxial and is there a way
to boost the signals and get more channels and clearer reception
on the broken up channels maybe.

Thanks Lisa

I have an RCA "batwing" indoor antenna that I hung vertically behind my TV a couple of months ago. I had it hooked to an Insignia digital converter box. After much tinkering, I found a so-called sweet spot. I had some trouble with WTNH-DT (ABC) from New Haven, since they're still on VHF (although the package says it can tune both bands). I've never gotten a thing from Springfield here in southern Hartford County. Since you're getting a bit of channels 20 and 61, you should be able to get either WEDH-DT (PBS) channels 24-1/24-2 (PBS Create) and WVIT-DT (NBC) channels 30-1, 30-2 (Weather Plus) and 30-3 (Universal Sports).

Hi I think I got a faint signal on 24 and maybe 30 but no audio and image maybe need a better antenna I'm looking up antennas with built in amplifiers maybe that will help I would like to get an outdoor antenna but then I'd need
to drill a hole in the wall and my landlord may not let me.

I live in a 8 family apt complex so not sure if that is causing interference or not I guess playing with the antenna and seeing what adjustments help different channels the antenna has a ring in the middle for channels above 14 and ears for below 14.

I am wondering why 22 wwlp only has 1 channel and no sub channels as they are the biggest station in the area I would think they'd have more options as public tv has 4 subs.

Thanks Lisa

My problem with Springfield is Walnut Hill here in New Britain's south end (our hospital sits on it). It has always given me headaches with both Springfield and anything from Avon Mountain. WFSB-DT (CBS) is there nearly all the time but will studder once in a while. WUVN-DT (UNI) from that site is quite problematic for me, but since it's mostly in Spanish, I don't worry about it. At my previous apartment on New Britain's east side, WWLP analog channel 22 was perfect and WGGB analog channel 40 was a bit snowy but was still quite watchable.

Yes 40 seems to be the best for reception here and has 2 channels I guess the only way to get good reception would be an antenna on top of the building but that's not gonna happen here at least.

Well I'm done for today with the tv figuring out it's a muggy one and I'm not able to afford to run my a/c right now blah, I moved the whole living room around so the tv would be near the windows and there's not much of a difference in signal or quality.

I will browse around online for tips on how to get the most out of a signal I tried hooking my cable line up to see if any channels would come through better but that was wishful thinking.

Lisa

Hi I'm getting these channels after playing around a bit ... Not bad but I would like to know if I'm missing any that
I should get as the sub channels are something new to me.
Hi Lisa - welcome to the AVS forums. You may want to consider visiting this web site:

http://www.tvfool.com/

Click: Click HERE in the left hand column (to search for stations)

Enter your address, city, state, zip. And if you know how much above ground level your antenna is put that in the AGL box. Then click: Find Local Channels.

By default you'll get ALL channels - but if you have a digital converter box that only does digital (no analog pass thru) ... then choose: current database - only digital. This will make it a lot easier to understand.

You'll be limited in what you can receive with an indoor antenna. The circle will show you each possible station you may be able to get and what direction the transmitter is. The further out on the circle the further away from you and the less likely you will be able to receive it.

The table will show you the real (meaning RF) channel and the virtual number (as shown on your box). Channels 2 through 13 are VHF channels and you'll need a good set of rabbit ears. This includes WWLP-DT 22.1 which is on RF channel 11.

These stations are low power and are still on analog - scheduled to convert to digital: WESA-LP channel 34 (Wilbraham), WSHM-LP channel 67 (Mt Tom), WDMR-LP channel 51 (Feeding Hills).

With indoor antenna you will likely be able to receive all the green ones and some of the yellow ones.

Each station can choose how many sub-channels they have. In the case of the local PBS station WGBY-DT they have multiple PBS programming streams and divide the pie accordingly. WGGB-DT has two, the local ABC and FOX feeds. And WWLP-DT currently has just one: the local NBC programming. There's often a tradeoff when stations have a lot of sub-channels - the picture quality should be better for stations that have only one or two channels. If you're using a converter box and older television you may not be able to see (sic) this!

In CT WTIC-DT (61), WEDH-DT (24) and WTXX-DT (20) all transmit from the same tower. Although their antennas and power levels are a bit different I find their signal strengths are pretty much the same. Interesting that you did not decode WVIT-DT (30) which is on a separate tower adjacent to the other three. (All on Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington CT.)

Otherwise your list looks pretty good - and typical of what can be received in the area.

Also I'm using the RF cable and have coaxial not hooked up which
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to have both hooked at the same time
which one has better reception RF or coaxial and is there a way
to boost the signals and get more channels and clearer reception
on the broken up channels maybe.
That's a bit confusing. Your TV should be connected to your digital converter (tuner) box - and that box should have an antenna connection. Don't connect the digital converter box to a cable TV coax ...

Not sure what you are using for an antenna - but often folks use something that has a combined set of "rabbit ears" and a round antenna (maybe in the middle) that is used for UHF reception.

If you were to put an antenna elsewhere ... you could extend the distance between the antenna and the tuner box with a piece of coax. Hope that all makes sense ...

Today I read a press release from a link at BroadcastEngineering.com that WGGB has purchased several pieces of equipment from a British company "for its transition to HD". The release makes reference to "the HD upgrade" of the station's studios and mentions that ABC40 now has two new HD production rooms.

It looks like WGGB will upgrade its newscasts to high definition before WWLP does on 22.

Link to press release:
http://www.crystalvision.tv/pressroom/press-wggb.html

It looks like WGGB will upgrade its newscasts to high definition before WWLP does on 22.


It would be nice if they fixed their EPG info sometime soon, too!

It would be nice if they fixed their EPG info sometime soon, too!

Have you E-mailed or called them that you're seeing a problem with their program guide?

WGGB/FOX 6 uses a paid service to populate their EPG. Something may have happenned to the connection with the service. Since most stations don't use their own program guide, they may not know it hasn't been updating.

Have you E-mailed or called them that you're seeing a problem with their program guide?

WGGB/FOX 6 uses a paid service to populate their EPG. Something may have happenned to the connection with the service. Since most stations don't use their own program guide, they may not know it hasn't been updating.
No, I haven't contacted them- I will send them an email- I figured that someone at the station would have been paying attention to it. It only says "DTV Program" for every program slot.

Watching today's Giants game on Fox6, the picture is really bad. Tons of pixelation, especially during any kind of movement. I don't remember it being this bad last year.

My brother recently had Charter's "Basic Cable" installed at his new house in Chicopee. Over the phone, I helped him do a digital channel scan. Does anyone have a listing for the clear QAM channels? It didn't sound like he was able to find all of the networks.

Thanks.

Most cable systems now only offer the local broadcasters in clear QAM with PSIP information pass thru. So you will only see the broadcast channels.
(i.e. WWLP will show up as 22.1). Cable channels on most systems are now blocked. (Meaning you'll need a box to receive them).

I don't know if Charter has done this yet, but most others have, so it wouldn't suprise me if they have.

Most cable systems now only offer the local broadcasters in clear QAM with PSIP information pass thru. So you will only see the broadcast channels.
(i.e. WWLP will show up as 22.1). Cable channels on most systems are now blocked. (Meaning you'll need a box to receive them).

I don't know if Charter has done this yet, but most others have, so it wouldn't suprise me if they have.

My brother got the basic package without a box (all he can afford at this time) and this is what I thought would happen when he did the scan. From what he said over the phone, most of the network channels came in with numbers like 113-1, not 22-1.

I thought maybe someone else here may have already done this and knew how these numbers mapped. He only expected the networks but he got a lot of bogus digital channels, including quite a few blank ones, so I thought I could tell him which ones to keep. Does anyone have a channel map?

Thanks.

My brother got the basic package without a box (all he can afford at this time) and this is what I thought would happen when he did the scan. From what he said over the phone, most of the network channels came in with numbers like 113-1, not 22-1.

I thought maybe someone else here may have already done this and knew how these numbers mapped. He only expected the networks but he got a lot of bogus digital channels, including quite a few blank ones, so I thought I could tell him which ones to keep. Does anyone have a channel map?

Thanks.

I don't know about Charter, but Cox moves their channels around, so a map might not be good for very long. As to the numbers, again with Cox, you will get the high numbers if you don't have cable with them, but they will remap to the analog ota numbers with a -1 added if you do have cable service.

I believe that Charter is now locally using SDV:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_video

You'll probably only find a handfull of clear QAM channels on their system - which should include the local stations. I believe they are also re-writing the PSIP ... so a fairly new clear QAM tuner that does a scan will report channels with the RF assignments (typically in the hundred plus range) versus local assignments (like 22-1, 57-1, etc.) The assignments have been known to change as well.

Since most stations have bugs to help identify them - a quick scan and then stepping through what's found ... you should be able to identify the stations / networks by the bugs.

Another thought: since the system is SDV there may be times when you find things doing a scan that later won't be there due to the dynamic nature of how SDV systems work.

Anyone happen to watch the NLCS coverage tonite (Sat 10/16) on Fox? The resolution seemed sub par so I checked two sets connected to Comcast service and both were receiving 720p. One box (DCS3400) had 720p on it's front panel confirming this. All other of their HD channels were in 1080i so I called service and got the usual "haven't heard this from anyone else" and "I'll reset the boxes" which did nothing. Did anyone viewing the game on satellite or OTA happen to notice reduced res?

John

Fox is always in 720p.

- Trip

I'm on Charter, but sports never seem to look good on Fox around here lately

True, football always looks better on CBS than Fox too...

Fox is always in 720p.

- Trip

...I believe ABC, the CW and ESPN are also 720p...NBC and CBS are 1080i

CW is in 1080i.

- Trip

Thanks for all the feedback. Was totally ignorant that holy format war existed (shades of betamax/VHS) between 720p and 1080i. My take is larger screen sizes give advantage to 1080i. On my 23 in Samsung it's a toss up. I see WWLP now has 1080i on local news content but both my sets show it letterboxed. As soon as network news comes on it goes right to 16:9.

I see WWLP now has 1080i on local news content but both my sets show it letterboxed. As soon as network news comes on it goes right to 16:9.WWLP has always broadcast in 1080i 16:9 format. When programming is in 4:3 format (including local news) black bars are added to the left and right of the picture (versus stretching) to fill the 16:9 format screen. In addition to much of the network programming being in 16:9 format you'll also see some syndicated programs, promos, adverts, etc. in 16:9 as well.

This evening while changing channels, I noticed that WWLP now has Channel 22-2 (WWLP-D1) in addition to the main channel (WWLP-DT). 22-2 is an affiliate of The Cool TV Network, which shows music videos, live concerts, and a music-themed movie of the week. Currently, there is no audio, and the picture isn't very sharp.

In every slot of the program guide for this channel, the words "WWLP Springfield" replace show titles.

For more information about this music diginet, click: http://www.thecooltv.com

This evening while changing channels, I noticed that WWLP now has Channel 22-2 (WWLP-D1) in addition to the main channel (WWLP-DT). 22-2 is an affiliate of The Cool TV Network, which shows music videos, live concerts, and a music-themed movie of the week. Currently, there is no audio, and the picture isn't very sharp.

In every slot of the program guide for this channel, the words "WWLP Springfield" replace show titles.

For more information about this music diginet, click: http://www.thecooltv.com

Ditto I picked this up as well, the funny thing is they had sound for a short period the first night and nothing since. Interesting channel "thecooltv" would be a nice addition to "thistv" that I pick up on 20.2.

theCoolTV is on WWLP-DT 22.2 - audio issues some people were having should be fixed - as noted in the Connecticut AVS forum the playlist for each market may be different at times - since there is no electronic program guide (EPG) info for this network you are seeing just a default message

In western Mass the Charter cable web site shows WWLP-DT 22.2 The Cool TV is on channel 260

In western Mass the Charter cable web site shows WWLP-DT 22.2 The Cool TV is on channel 260

My charter cable guide doesn't show anything on 260

My charter cable guide doesn't show anything on 260I don't have Charter - but it is listed on the web site:
http://www.charter.com/channels/displayChannels.jsp
I just entered a fake address in zip code 01027 ... scroll down to channel 260 - WWLP-DT2 - Cool TV ... check boxes next to basic and digital. Since the channel is new they are probably working on it.

I don't have Charter - but it is listed on the web site:
http://www.charter.com/channels/displayChannels.jsp
I just entered a fake address in zip code 01027 ... scroll down to channel 260 - WWLP-DT2 - Cool TV ... check boxes next to basic and digital. Since the channel is new they are probably working on it.

Hah...it's there now

... Interesting channel "thecooltv" would be a nice addition to "thistv" that I pick up on 20.2.

Come Saturday, January 1st, there'll be another new programming service, "Antenna TV", that you'll probably be able to receive. It will be on Channel 61.2. This subchannel hasn't been created yet, but it will broadcast from the same tower as 20.2.

"Antenna TV" will show movies and classic TV series from Sony/Columbia Pictures/Screen Gems. It has posted its program schedule on its website, and the shows include Burns and Allen, Hazel, The Monkees, The Three Stooges, and Married With Children.

Program Schedule: http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-10/56949524.pdf

Home Page: http://www.wgnamerica.com/shows/antenna/

Yet more choices for over-the-air viewers.

(I checked 22.2 today at 5:30PM, and I now have audio.)

My brother recently had Charter's "Basic Cable" installed at his new house in Chicopee. Over the phone, I helped him do a digital channel scan. Does anyone have a listing for the clear QAM channels? It didn't sound like he was able to find all of the networks.

Thanks.

Last I knew..

114-1 CBS 3 Hartford
114-2 CBS 3 News Now?
114-3 WGGB ABC 40

116-1 WGGB Fox 6
116-3 WWLP Nbc

80-1 WGBY world
80-2 Fox 61 (not HD)
80-3 WGBY HD
80-5 WGBY Kids
80-6 WGBY Create

They switch them around every few months.

Can anyone confirm whether or not WSHM-LD 21 is now on the air? If so, mapping and subchannels would be most appreciated. =)

- Trip

Can anyone confirm whether or not WSHM-LD 21 is now on the air? If so, mapping and subchannels would be most appreciated.Indeed it is on the air albeit I am unable to receive it so can't tell you what they have for subchannels / PSIP. WSHM-LP channel 67 analog was shut off earlier in the week.

Trip,

After reading your post yesterday evening, I did a new autoscan. The number 21 changed from white to orange, which usually means that the tuner has recognized the channel as active and has locked onto it. But when the autoscan finished and the list of all the channels and their call letters came up, there was no new channel between 20-2 and 22-1.

I did another autoscan today at 5:30PM and got the same result. But this time I noticed in the program schedule grid that Channel 3 now has 5 subchannels, and 3-5 is labeled "WSHM-DT". If I were to highlight this channel in the grid and press "Select" on the remote, nothing happens. There is currently no way to access 3-5; it just appears in the grid and has "No Information" in the timeslot. It does not appear in the master channel line-up. Subchannel 3-2 is still active, and shows a stretched, 480i version of WSHM. It is labeled as WFSB-2.

Well, it's obvious there's something going on with WSHM but what exactly it is seems to be anyone's guess.

Anyone able to see the signal with an HTPC or even just a tuner card of some kind? It'd be interesting to see what TSReader has to say about it.

EDIT: Got word from the WTFDA mailing list that it is, indeed, up on 3-5. It's flipped back and forth between HD and SD, so they're probably working out bugs. Perhaps the PQ will be better than that of WFSB 3-1.

- Trip

Yes something is up I also had 5 sub channels on 3.1....3.5 a few days back.

Today I scanned with the decoder box and now have 21.1 with CBS programming. On my ATSC Sony TV it comes in as channel 21.3 . Their is no ID information shown so all a guess if it is WSHM.

Hot off the press. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSHM-LP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSHM-L)

Technically, the station was not legally required to turn off its analog signal and turn on a digital signal because of its low-powered status. This transition was mandatory for all full-power United States television stations on or before June 12, 2009. It had a construction permit to air a low-powered digital signal on UHF channel 21 from a new transmitter southeast of Wilbraham.[1] On November 22, 2010, WSHM-LP turned off channel 67 started operations on digital channel 21. Once its License To Cover gets granted, the call letters will be changed to WSHM-LD.[2]



Digital Channel Virtual Channel Video Aspect Programming
21.1 3.5 1080i 16:9 main WSHM-LP programming / CBS HD
21.2 3.6 480i 4:3 "CBS 3 Weather Now"
(24-hour local news and weather channel)

I saw Wikipedia, but there's no actual source on it, just what somebody posted. I've heard nothing about a 3-6 anywhere but Wikipedia.

- Trip

Quick question for you guys (and I apologize if this was posted elsewhere - I couldn't find it): What satellite does DirecTV use to air the Springfield locals (WGGB 40, WSHM 3, WTIC 61, WWLP 22)?

Is it 101?

Also, what DirecTV satellites do you need to get to receive their full Choice Xtra programming in the Springfield area - 99, 101, and 103?

Thanks for your help!

Quick question for you guys (and I apologize if this was posted elsewhere - I couldn't find it): What satellite does DirecTV use to air the Springfield locals (WGGB 40, WSHM 3, WTIC 61, WWLP 22)?

Is it 101?

Also, what DirecTV satellites do you need to get to receive their full Choice Xtra programming in the Springfield area - 99, 101, and 103?

Thanks for your help!

The sd locals are on 119, the hd either 99 or 103, I'm not sure which. The Choice xtra sd is on 101, the hd is on 99 and 103.

I swear the picture quality on Fox6 football games gets worse every week

I swear the picture quality on Fox6 football games gets worse every week

Can you receive 61.1 FOX CT ??? that may be better. I use a DB2 antenna facing Hartford.

Can you receive 61.1 FOX CT ??? that may be better. I use a DB2 antenna facing Hartford.

Antenna is not an option

The sd locals are on 119, the hd either 99 or 103, I'm not sure which. The Choice xtra sd is on 101, the hd is on 99 and 103.

Thanks for your quick response - much appreciated!

This evening 61.2 Antenna TV (Ant TV) = Logo looking test pattern is up and running! 480i

WSHM-HD 3.6 CBS Springfield looking good.

I'm also getting the "Antenna TV - Coming Soon" screen here in New Britain, CT. Of course that's only if I have the Insignia converter box from 2008 hooked up with the antenna. I was also seeing TheCool TV on WCTX-DT 59-2 from New Haven. ThisTV was coming in fine on WTXX-DT 20-2 from Waterbury.

It's worth noting that I have 2 different Sanyo 26" LCD HDTV sets in this house. One is from 2006 and the other is from either late 2008 or early 2009. The QAM tuner acts differently with each one. The newer set correctly shows TheCool TV as WCTX-DT 59-2. My older set places it on QAM channel 47-2, while it put ThisTV on QAM channel 46-4.

AntennaTV has gone live tonight running promos.

What's going on with the ABC40 and Fox6 signal? The over the air signal for both channels keep pixelating and the same is true for DirectTV (which gets their signal from over the air)? It's been happening off and on for a couple weeks and is really bad today - figures since it's Super Bowl Sunday!

Update: Have to give John Gormally (the president) credit. He emailed me right away to tell me they are working on it and at least as of right now, it seems OK. Maybe the Super Bowl will be watchable after all!

Didn't have too much trouble with breakup, but the problem on Charter anyway is that Fox 6 HD is like 2 or 3 times louder than every other channel since last week or so. Many a blown out eardrum around here lately ...

Was WGGB off the air, or on low power last night?? (Friday 2/25) They usually come in strong here in Middletown, but were non-existent last night. I'm unable to receive WTNH reliably, so WGGB is where I watch ABC.

Was WGGB off the air, or on low power last night?? (Friday 2/25) They usually come in strong here in Middletown, but were non-existent last night. I'm unable to receive WTNH reliably, so WGGB is where I watch ABC.

I don't think so but the weather up this way yesterday was bad with heavy rain and some snow. On occasion I have the same issue with 59 dropping out from Waterbury in bad weather.

Channel 59 (MY) is licensed to New Haven and has their transmitter in Hamden, CT. The Waterbury-licensed station is WCCT-TV (CW) channel 20.

Also, remember the "Waterbury licenced WCCT" actually transmits from Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington, along with sister-station WTIC. WTXX (now WCCT) ceased transmitting from the Waterbury/Prospect location when the analog was shut down.

more than 9 months without a post? theres no new news or problems to report?

more than 9 months without a post? theres no new news or problems to report?

Well, Fox6 still has a crappy picture for sports and is way too loud, but I have no illusions of them fixing those things, so why bother posting about it?

Well, Fox6 still has a crappy picture for sports and is way too loud, but I have no illusions of them fixing those things, so why bother posting about it?

because someone may have information that fixes it. if you dont
want it fixed or to get new info by all means dont post

because someone may have information that fixes it. if you dont
want it fixed or to get new info by all means dont post

I did post about it in the past, as did others, to no avail. I wasn't trying to be an ass, but really - is that station going to stop showing a terrible picture because two people here complain about it?

I did post about it in the past, as did others, to no avail. I wasn't trying to be an ass, but really - is that station going to stop showing a terrible picture because two people here complain about it?

the point is that no they probably wont fix it but you dont have to watch that channel either. if youre looking for national fox broadcasts then why not watch channel 61-1?

It's funny that you mentioned that, because last night during Bones, I noticed Fox 6's audio being way sharper and better than 61's...

hmmm. I guess I am lucky since I dont watch network prime time shows. didnt see reference to an audio issue in this thread either. I know that much earlier there was an issue with channel 22 not broadcasting the proper audio but that seems to be fixes. personally I think both fox stations locally are rinky dink operations

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as of Saturday 07 Jan 2012 WWLP has local 16:9 origination

What is the story with ch 28? I see a CP on the FCC tv query and a 125KW ERP from Provin mountain.

as of Saturday 07 Jan 2012 WWLP has local 16:9 origination

Anyone else notice the image appearing stretched horizonatally on 16:9 screens? As if it were a 4:3 being zoomed out to fit although the TV isn't being told to do that. Same on both OTH and Comcast.

The image is stretched with the cancelations on the bottom. The other option that WWLP has is to scale and have side boarders.

Some of the live cameras are sometimes stretched from 4:3 to 16:9 otherwise the video is indeed 16:9 (you will notice blue side bars on 4:3 video). When the closings and cancellations are being run the image is compressed vertically which gives it a stretched look.

Some of the live cameras are sometimes stretched from 4:3 to 16:9 otherwise the video is indeed 16:9 (you will notice blue side bars on 4:3 video). When the closings and cancellations are being run the image is compressed vertically which gives it a stretched look.

Odd - ESPN and others do this all the time without distorting the main picture.

Hi, I live in Wilbraham by Wilbraham Monson Academy and was thinking of going back to OTA once my charter contract expired. I had decent reception of CT stations in East Longmeadow but have since moved to Wilbraham and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with reception. I plugged some old rabbit ears when I first moved and and didn't get anything. Any input would be appreciated
Thanks!

I live near the Ludlow/Wilbraham line and can pull in CT CBS (WFSB), FOX (WTIC), NBC (WVIT) without much trouble using an ordinary amplified indoor rabbit ear/loop style antenna. The stations also come in with an indoor unamplified Silver Sensor antenna. As long as your residence is not buried at the bottom of a hill or hid behind a large metal building or rock ledge, you should see similar results. The higher you mount the antenna, the better the results. Sometimes even moving your rabbit ear base up from shoulder level to your ceiling fan height can make a big difference and if you move it sideways a few feet it can help with receiving a tricky UHF station. I can get CPTV (WEDH) and CW (WCCT) with a little adjustment. If I move the antenna to attic level (2 story house), I can even pull in ABC (WTNH) barely under certain atmospheric conditions.

But since I can also get the Springfield stations ABC/FOX (WGGB), PBS (WGBY) without trouble, I don't need WTNH. My biggest problem is getting NBC (WWLP) because my indoor TV/antenna is on the East side of the house and this VHF station does not like that (broadcast tower is to the West). If I move the antenna to the Southwest corner of the house I can pull it in just fine but I do not wish to permanently move my antenna to that spot since I can usually already get WWLP via Cable TV anyways.