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RPMcCormick 05-25-09, 11:39 PM Like an idiot, I should have made sure my brain was engaged before my fingers were.No problems - you meant the other sub-channels from WGBY-DT. We are a fairly frequent viewer of WGBY-DT over the air and have not noticed any pixelation issues ...
You note that the interference is more often on 57.1 -- that is likely due to the fact that more bandwidth is dedicated to the .1 sub-channel ... so if you're taking hits you may see them more often on the higher bandwidth sub-channel.
Remember if you bypass the amp (and it is powered via DC on the coax) to also remove the power over coax device as well.
If the antenna is pointed away from Mt. Tom -- here's another maybe strange but plausible possibility: multipath reflections from planes going in and out of Bradley. (Wonder if you point the antenna at Mt. Tom if the occasional break-up issue diminishes or goes away?)
I had asked the questions about the CT UHF affiliates to see if there was something in common with your system, e.g., also maybe having problems with them as well as WGBY-DT.
Being so close to Provin - the WWLP-DT signal is likely overloading your receiver's front end ... and that may be blocking your ability to receive WTNH-DT (channel 10) or WTXX-DT (currently channel 12 - moving back to 20 in a couple of weeks). WCTX-DT is from the same tower as WTNH-DT and transmits on channel 39 ... so if you have a strong signal from WGGB-DT it too may make reception of WCTX difficult or impossible.
Not sure what is up with the Univision station on 46 - I too am having difficulty now receiving that one. WEDH-DT is now on channel 45 and has a booming signal into western MA from their new antenna in Farmington.
OvenMaster 05-28-09, 12:02 AM This is all very, very good. I'm grateful for the help, and I'll see about bypassing the amp and the power as well to try WTNH on 10.1 and WTXX on 12.1. Overload from 11.1 (WWLP) had never entered my mind.
Thank you for this.
Tom
cutthecable 06-01-09, 08:38 PM 11 days to go.
RPMcCormick 06-01-09, 09:28 PM 11 days to go.Until?! :)
Nothing happening here ;)
Other than the low power stations ... everything has already been DTV'ized!
Until?! :)
Nothing happening here ;)
Other than the low power stations ... everything has already been DTV'ized!
Isn't Channel 40 switching to rf channel 40 on the 12th?
Kelly From KOMO 06-03-09, 07:41 AM Isn't Channel 40 switching to rf channel 40 on the 12th?
WGGB has already built and tested their channel 40 system. The only thing that remains is to turn it on June 12th. And the only impact to viewers will be to re-scan their receivers.
rmahlert 06-03-09, 10:46 PM Until?! :)
Nothing happening here ;)
Other than the low power stations ... everything has already been DTV'ized!
I cannot wait until WVIT (30 Hartford) analog shuts down on the 12th.. so I can get WBZ-DT from Boston. Sucks having them on the same UHF 30.
I was so pissed when they pushed the date back..
Don't shoot the messenger :), but ...
There was a FCC meeting yesterday (Wednesday) in which one of the commissioners asked TV stations to keep their analog signal on until July 12th, if they could. The stations would air one month of "nightlight service", a continuous video presentation advising viewers how to hook up a converter box.
In response, over 100 stations have volunteered to keep analog going for another thirty days beyond June 12th. I haven't seen the list of stations, but it's possible that the Connecticut Broadcasters Association could go along with the commissioner's request (as they did when they decided as a group to keep analog on past February 17th). Or, individual stations may decide on their own to keep transmitting analog. So WVIT might still be on 30 come June 13th. (I stress the word "might" because I don't know for sure. We'll find out two Saturdays from now.)
In asking stations to do this, the commissioner was reported to have used the word "please" three times, begging stations not to leave unprepared viewers with no analog TV signals.
Don't shoot the messenger :), but ...
There was a FCC meeting yesterday (Wednesday) in which one of the commissioners asked TV stations to keep their analog signal on until July 12th, if they could. The stations would air one month of "nightlight service", a continuous video presentation advising viewers how to hook up a converter box.
How many times are they going to keep doing this? If someone's not ready at this point, do you really think that another month will make a difference? I read somewhere that the Hartford market was supposedly one of the best prepared markets in the country. Also, is there a link to a source of this story?? I'd love to read it myself.
KML-224 06-05-09, 06:40 PM No cry wolf here! PLEASE!! Do NOT fool all of us a second time! >:(
Supposedly, most of the stations that have volunteered to keep analog on until July 12th are in areas of the country like Texas, where a higher percentage of people use an antenna than subscribe to cable. And, the digital transition will take place on June 12th. The stations that choose to continue their analog version with a nightlight service can only do so if they don't interfere with another station's signal or final channel assignment.
The story was on the Wednesday, June 3rd edition of tvnewsday.com. Going back in the "History" links on my computer only brings me to today's edition. Clicking on "earlier editions" and going to June 3rd does not bring up the article. The closest thing that I can link to is the actual written comments on file in a FCC document. Reference to the volunteer nightlight service is on pages 2 and 3 of the June 3, 2009 document:
http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/presentations/2009/060309/gore.pdf
The articles that I had read mentioned that the commissioner was still looking for more volunteer stations, and once they had a final list, the FCC would publish it early next week. Hopefully, no Connecticut station will decide to participate. But it is conceivable given the past history with the digital transition. Back in February, NBC decided that all their owned and operated stations (of which Channel 30 is one) would delay the switch until June, as did other station owners. It has been suggested on the broadcast industry websites that station groups have agreed to the FCC's pleas so as to curry favor with the new administration and with the FCC in the hopes that, in the years ahead, the FCC will relax caps on the number of stations that a company can own, ease regulations on content, and generally be more receptive to the National Association of Broadcasters' agenda.
RPMcCormick 06-05-09, 08:58 PM In Connecticut not too many changes with stations moving their digital assignments. WTXX-DT currently on channel 12 and will come up on channel 20. Since 20 is their analog channel - would expect the change to occur as scheduled on 12 Jun 2009. Likewise WHPX-DT is moving its digital signal from 34 back to 26, its analog channel. The only other change in CT would be WEDY-DT coming up on channel 6; one would assume that has to be coordinated with the cessation of WLNE's analog service in New Bedford.
A few of the CT analog channels going off-air may help folks in the fringe of the Hartford / New Haven market or even adjacent areas with reception of digital signals on the same channels.
As for keeping the signal on for yet another month: my personal opinion is that it is a waste of the broadcaster's money on the power bill. In those areas of the country where there are a lot of rural viewers - there is typically a separate issue: low power translators. States like New Mexico and Utah have large networks of low power stations ... and many if not most of these are analog, and unaffected (today) by the digital TV transition.
KML-224 06-05-09, 09:13 PM In Connecticut not too many changes with stations moving their digital assignments. WTXX-DT currently on channel 12 and will come up on channel 20. Since 20 is their analog channel - would expect the change to occur as scheduled on 12 Jun 2009. Likewise WHPX-DT is moving its digital signal from 34 back to 26, its analog channel.
WHPX-DT (ION) turned off digital channel 34 and switched off analog channel 26 back in February. They have had their digital on channel 26 since then.
rmahlert 06-07-09, 08:29 PM In Connecticut not too many changes with stations moving their digital assignments. WTXX-DT currently on channel 12 and will come up on channel 20. Since 20 is their analog channel - would expect the change to occur as scheduled on 12 Jun 2009. Likewise WHPX-DT is moving its digital signal from 34 back to 26, its analog channel. The only other change in CT would be WEDY-DT coming up on channel 6; one would assume that has to be coordinated with the cessation of WLNE's analog service in New Bedford.
A few of the CT analog channels going off-air may help folks in the fringe of the Hartford / New Haven market or even adjacent areas with reception of digital signals on the same channels.
WTXX is one that worries me.. Boston's WCVB Channel 5 is on UHF 20 also and they are rock solid here in Brimfield. If I remember, the FCC maps showed an overlap for my location.. I'll be pissed if it kills WCVB.
I'm already screwed with the Fox stations in Hartford and Boston being on UHF 31.. I get neither of them since Boston's Fox25 came online. It suxs because I use to get Fox25 on analog before it went down due to failures.
RPMcCormick 06-07-09, 09:47 PM WTXX is one that worries me.. Boston's WCVB Channel 5 is on UHF 20 also and they are rock solid here in Brimfield. If I remember, the FCC maps showed an overlap for my location.. I'll be pissed if it kills WCVB.The FCC generated maps are here: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/
If you look at the WTXX-DT coverage ... you'll see it goes way beyond the eastern border of Hampden County. Of course, there may be some areas on the east side of the Wilbraham Mountain ridge that will have difficulties.
Based on your experience with the FOX stations - my best bet is you are going to have problems with WCVB. Depending on how strong WTXX is (on digital channel 20) you may be able to reject that signal by using an antenna that has decent rejection off its side and back. Keep us posted post transition!
cutthecable 06-08-09, 08:45 PM WTXX is one that worries me.. Boston's WCVB Channel 5 is on UHF 20 also and they are rock solid here in Brimfield. If I remember, the FCC maps showed an overlap for my location.. I'll be pissed if it kills WCVB.
I'm already screwed with the Fox stations in Hartford and Boston being on UHF 31.. I get neither of them since Boston's Fox25 came online. It suxs because I use to get Fox25 on analog before it went down due to failures.
I didn't know that WTXX was switching channels, I hope I don't have issues with their signal which comes in perfectly at the moment.
rmahlert 06-12-09, 02:40 PM The FCC generated maps are here: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/
If you look at the WTXX-DT coverage ... you'll see it goes way beyond the eastern border of Hampden County. Of course, there may be some areas on the east side of the Wilbraham Mountain ridge that will have difficulties.
Based on your experience with the FOX stations - my best bet is you are going to have problems with WCVB. Depending on how strong WTXX is (on digital channel 20) you may be able to reject that signal by using an antenna that has decent rejection off its side and back. Keep us posted post transition!
It happened.. thanks again FCC!
I don't get WCVB anymore or the crappy CW station from Hartford.
Right now I have a Clearstream 4 antenna.. might look into a directional antenna to point towards Boston. But, I need to do some research.. any suggestions?
I now have WBZ-DT from Boston since the NBC in Hartford analog is finally off the air.
I just find that it's kinda stupid on the FCC's part to have markets so close use the same channels. Granted with Hartford being close to NYC broadcast market and all the stations they have..
I just find that it's kinda stupid on the FCC's part to have markets so close use the same channels. Granted with Hartford being close to NYC broadcast market and all the stations they have..
WFSB and WCBS in New York are both on 33, which is causing problems with viewers in Western CT as well. What were they thinking? I suspect that we will see some frequency changes at some point. I'm wondering why the engineers at the stations whose signals interfere with each other weren't trying to get this resolved before now.
Anyone having trouble with ABC40? I rescanned today and now i have no signal at all....
Anyone having trouble with ABC40? I rescanned today and now i have no signal at all....
Yes, I was very surprised when it didn't appear when I did my rescan. But, there are at least two reports on the Hartford forum that WGGB did indeed move to digital channel 40 and is being received by some forum members.
Yes, I was very surprised when it didn't appear when I did my rescan. But, there are at least two reports on the Hartford forum that WGGB did indeed move to digital channel 40 and is being received by some forum members.
That's funny, i just got back from the Hartford forum and read that too. Thanks for the heads up though. I'm curious, if people in CT are rescanning and getting the signal, why can't i and i live on the border??? I'm going to rescan again.
KML-224 06-12-09, 09:26 PM How is WTXX-DT (CW) channel 20 doing for those of you north of the border? I'm 5 miles or less from Rattlesnake Mountain, so the difference between the old signal on channel 12 and the new one on channel 20 is negligible.
It it makes you guys feel any better about digital TV, I'm getting nothing from any of the "big 3" (WWLP, WGGB and WGBY) here in southern Hartford County.
Lastly, what happens to WSHM-LP (CBS) on channel 67? Will they be digital and on what channel?
How is WTXX-DT (CW) channel 20 doing for those of you north of the border? I'm 5 miles or less from Rattlesnake Mountain, so the difference between the old signal on channel 12 and the new one on channel 20 is negligible.
It it makes you guys feel any better about digital TV, I'm getting nothing from any of the "big 3" (WWLP, WGGB and WGBY) here in southern Hartford County.
Lastly, what happens to WSHM-LP (CBS) on channel 67? Will they be digital and on what channel?
I'm getting a signal around 65 for WTXX. (anything over 40 usually comes in) I had it before, so i was surprised when it showed up.
I'm getting solid signals on WWLP and WGBY, nothing on WGGB.
As for WSHM and FOX40, i don't bother. I pull in WFSB and WTIC from CT.
Yes, I was very surprised when it didn't appear when I did my rescan. But, there are at least two reports on the Hartford forum that WGGB did indeed move to digital channel 40 and is being received by some forum members.
OK, i just saw something on the ABC40 website that said you may have to rescan a couple of times to pick it up. I'll do that after the Sox game.:D
Ugh, as i type this the Phillies just tied it...:mad:
RPMcCormick 06-12-09, 09:46 PM How is WTXX-DT (CW) channel 20 doing for those of you north of the border?Booming in. All three channels from that tower have the same signal level - WTXX, WTIC, WEDH. Solid with just a loop antenna north and east of Springfield.Lastly, what happens to WSHM-LP (CBS) on channel 67? Will they be digital and on what channel?WSHM-LP has a construction permit to build WSHM-LD on channel 41. That CP also has a change of location from Mt. Tom to a hill in Montgomery MA (west of Westfield MA). I drove by the site a month or two ago and I didn't see anything there. Here are some links to the FCC information:
WSHM-LD facility ID 168233 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=168233)
WSHM-LP facility ID 67980 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=67980)
Tommy3141 06-16-09, 02:06 PM Post switch: reception from the hills of Shutesbury, southern Franklin county MA. 3/33, 8/10, 20/20, 24/45, 30/35, 40/55, 57/22, 59/, 61/31 all very solid on the south antenna, still no lock from 22(11). East antenna, for the first time am watching 2/19,4/30, 7/7 from Boston and 12/13 from RI. North antenna still gets 11/49 from Keene, but now gets 41/24 Vermont public and 31/25. All new reception can be traced to analog jamming now off the air. It looks like the only analog that stayed on I am receiving is some Boston VHF.
Post switch: and 12/13 from RI.
Can you receive 64 (virtual 64, RF12) from here in Providence?
12/13 are using a common antenna, and 12 is @ 30kW versus 13's 18kW.
I know we've received reception reports from Danvers on both channels before.
KML-224 06-23-09, 10:25 PM Post switch: reception from the hills of Shutesbury, southern Franklin county MA. 3/33, 8/10, 20/20, 24/45, 30/35, 40/55, 57/22, 59/, 61/31 all very solid on the south antenna, still no lock from 22(11). East antenna, for the first time am watching 2/19,4/30, 7/7 from Boston and 12/13 from RI. North antenna still gets 11/49 from Keene, but now gets 41/24 Vermont public and 31/25. All new reception can be traced to analog jamming now off the air. It looks like the only analog that stayed on I am receiving is some Boston VHF.
WCTX-DT (MY) of New Haven is on channel 39. Do you receive Worcester stations at all with your setup?
aldujaparov 07-02-09, 08:14 PM this didn't turn up in a search of the forum: wwlp no longer passing digital audio via comcast (used to be the only one that did!); no response to inquiries to wwlp. What do you OTA receivers hear, is this a comcast problem or wwlp?
tnx much
RPMcCormick 07-02-09, 10:10 PM this didn't turn up in a search of the forum: wwlp no longer passing digital audio via comcast (used to be the only one that did!); no response to inquiries to wwlp. What do you OTA receivers hear, is this a comcast problem or wwlp?Can you elaborate more on this - not sure I understand what the issue is. The same digital stream being transmitted on WWLP-DT should also be found on Comcast 822.
aldujaparov 07-03-09, 09:22 AM RPM,
I'm not receiving digital 5.1 from Comcast 822: receiver shows "Dolby Digital [2/0]" & no blue light, while the other HD channels show "Dolby Digital [3/2]" w/ the blue light on. Also, the 2/0 sound seems slightly out of synch w/ the video.
So my question is, does WWLP no longer broadcast DD 5.1, or should I pursue w/ Comcast that maybe they're not passing it through? I'm assuming it's not my equipment since all the other channels work.
Thanks for any guidance!
Al
RPMcCormick 07-03-09, 10:43 AM I'm not receiving digital 5.1 from Comcast 822: receiver shows "Dolby Digital [2/0]" & no blue light, while the other HD channels show "Dolby Digital [3/2]" w/ the blue light on. Also, the 2/0 sound seems slightly out of synch w/ the video.Ah - OK - thanks, now I understand. Yes - WWLP-DT is currently broadcasting Dolby 2/0 (stereo). Work is underway to return the Dolby 5.1 encoding.
cutthecable 07-15-09, 07:43 PM Well I'm pleased that I did the big switch from cable to OTA FREE DIGITAL TV saving a lot and actually having fewer channels has the family more focused to watch just a few good programs.
Nice when WWLP finally uses it extra bandwith.
Please God Let it Be RetroTV.
TVNewsday is reporting today (Thursday, 7/23) that Retro TV Network has signed with Springfield low-power station WESA, on analog Channel 34, to carry the network. No exact starting date was indicated. At some point in the future, WESA will cease analog broadcasting and flash-cut to digital.
I get a very snowy Channel 34 at my location, and checked it today at 5:15PM. For now it is still affiliated with something called the AMGTV network (http://www.amgtv.tv/html/programs.htm).
I also get a very snowy Channel 48 (WRNT), which is a Hartford low-power analog station that is a Retro TV affiliate. Many times when I check this channel, it is either a black screen with the Channel 48 ID in the lower left corner of the screen, or color bars with the channel ID superimposed in the lower left. This can go on for a few days in a row, so it looks like everything is on "automatic pilot" at this station, and no human being is "minding the store".
Scarpad 07-23-09, 09:44 PM TVNewsday is reporting today (Thursday, 7/23) that Retro TV Network has signed with Springfield low-power station WESA, on analog Channel 34, to carry the network. No exact starting date was indicated. At some point in the future, WESA will cease analog broadcasting and flash-cut to digital.
I get a very snowy Channel 34 at my location, and checked it today at 5:15PM. For now it is still affiliated with something called the AMGTV network (http://www.amgtv.tv/html/programs.htm).
I also get a very snowy Channel 48 (WRNT), which is a Hartford low-power analog station that is a Retro TV affiliate. Many times when I check this channel, it is either a black screen with the Channel 48 ID in the lower left corner of the screen, or color bars with the channel ID superimposed in the lower left. This can go on for a few days in a row, so it looks like everything is on "automatic pilot" at this station, and no human being is "minding the store".
Yes I Get it OK , kinda Snowy But Watchable, I've Prayed for RetroTV to come to Spfld, Hopefully Soon
RPMcCormick 07-23-09, 11:31 PM ... Springfield low-power station WESA on analog channel 34 ... channel 48 (WRNT) which is a Hartford low-power analog station that is a Retro TV affiliateBoth stations have the same licensee: R AND S BROADCASTING LLC. The FCC web site lists their office in Wethersfield CT.
Many times when I check this channel, it is either a black screen with the Channel 48 ID in the lower left corner of the screen, or color bars with the channel ID superimposed in the lower left. This can go on for a few days in a row, so it looks like everything is on "automatic pilot" at this station, and no human being is "minding the store".Sounds like it. Not uncommon for a lot of stations that operate in translator mode. Postings on the radio-info.com board suggests that maybe there is a satellite drop-out for the network feed - sounds plausible based on your description.
rmahlert 08-20-09, 01:27 PM Anyone have a change to Charter's QAM?
A neighbor said He doesn't have 86-1, 86-2, 86-3 and 90-3 anymore.
RPMcCormick 08-20-09, 01:52 PM Anyone have a change to Charter's QAM?
Yes - within the last few days (maybe over the weekend?). WWLP's channel assignement changed. I don't have the info handy - maybe a rescan and review of what was found?
rmahlert 08-23-09, 04:23 AM Yes - within the last few days (maybe over the weekend?). WWLP's channel assignement changed. I don't have the info handy - maybe a rescan and review of what was found?
It's for my neighbor.. I got rid of the crappy charter service for TV. I still have internet from them.. no other high speed available in town.:mad:
My Brother-in-law has FiOS out in Bedford.. I'll never see it out here, but WOW is it nice.
Kelly From KOMO 09-07-09, 03:57 PM Interesting.. I've noticed that pretty much on all the AVS OTA boards, that some destinations are reaching days or even weeks before anything new is posted. Only a year ago, posts, topics and replies were being added within minutes or hours of each other.
Could this mean that the DTV transition in MA. has gone better than expected and the majority of folks are basking in the quality of digital TV entertainment? Or have more become frustrated and just gone to ADS? (cable or satellite).
troasti 09-08-09, 04:31 PM I have a cheapie u-75R UHF antenna from radio shack and a basic pre-amp. I'm in East Longmeadow close to CT border. right now I am receiving:
Solid signal:
3.1
3.2
3.3
8.1
20.1
20.2
24.1
24.2
30.1
30.2
30.3
40.1
40.2
57.1
57.2
57.3
57.4
61.1
Sometimes solid signal:
59.1
Have seen once or twice:
22.1
10.1
54.1
Channels I'd like to get:
26.1 or 69.1 (ION) and 22.1
I was thinking about getting a deep fringe VHF/UHF antenna. Is anyone in my area getting these channels or any other channels I am missing? Would getting a better antenna make it possible or should I save my $$
cutthecable 09-10-09, 07:18 PM 22.1 is VHF channel 11. I'm in longmeadow, best to use a VHF with joiner to your UHF antenna.
cutthecable 09-10-09, 07:21 PM I have a cheapie u-75R UHF antenna from radio shack and a basic pre-amp. I'm in East Longmeadow close to CT border. right now I am receiving:
Solid signal:
3.1
3.2
3.3
8.1
20.1
20.2
24.1
24.2
30.1
30.2
30.3
40.1
40.2
57.1
57.2
57.3
57.4
61.1
Sometimes solid signal:
59.1
Have seen once or twice:
22.1
10.1
54.1
Channels I'd like to get:
26.1 or 69.1 (ION) and 22.1
I was thinking about getting a deep fringe VHF/UHF antenna. Is anyone in my area getting these channels or any other channels I am missing? Would getting a better antenna make it possible or should I save my $$
I get all of the above and 59.1 and 59.2
I have a DB2 pointed to Hartford that just happens to pick up back signal from Mt Tom (40.1.. & 57.1....) 22.1 needs its own VHF pointed to Mt ??? i feed both into a joiner then into mast head amp.
Very happy with DTV.. have dropped cable altogether. Just DTV and netflix.
22.1 needs its own VHF pointed to Mt ???
Mt. Provin, located in Feeding Hills/Agawam.
troasti 09-10-09, 10:16 PM I get all of the above and 59.1 and 59.2
I have a DB2 pointed to Hartford that just happens to pick up back signal from Mt Tom (40.1.. & 57.1....) 22.1 needs its own VHF pointed to Mt ??? i feed both into a joiner then into mast head amp.
Very happy with DTV.. have dropped cable altogether. Just DTV and netflix.
I use Tivo with my OTA which gives me access to streaming netflix and pay per view with amazon. I also get tivo content which some is decent. I mostly record everything and just watch it later. The only thing I miss is NESN and ESPN. Although with the Pats starting soon I won't miss any football. cutthecable are you getting any albany stations? or 26.1 or 69.1? What town are u in?
cutthecable 09-17-09, 07:52 PM I use Tivo with my OTA which gives me access to streaming netflix and pay per view with amazon. I also get tivo content which some is decent. I mostly record everything and just watch it later. The only thing I miss is NESN and ESPN. Although with the Pats starting soon I won't miss any football. cutthecable are you getting any albany stations? or 26.1 or 69.1? What town are u in?
Hi! I'm in Longmeadow MA. I don't get 26.1 or 69.1.
Yeah I'm a little miffed that football went to NESN/ESPN but have watched a lot of NYY baseball on 59.1 (MyTV). Also 20.2 has a bit variety also, even sci-fi now.
For netflix we watch a lot of movies & documentary programs online using my sons MS Xbox 360 that feeds the big tv. Works great. Nettlix will soon be available on Playstation and I expect Sony DVD players. This is a great way to watch programs.
I think the "cable TV" model is really at risk.
Bottom line is with digital OTA I'm saving money. I have Verizon landline phone using measured service and DSL (3mbs) total bill is about $46/month. Switched long distance to Pioneer Telephone and spend about $10/month on a gizzillion long-distance/international calls. Netflix is $9/month for 1 DVD at a time (we turn around 2 to 3 per week) and unlimited online content.
DTV brought HD OTA into my house for free.
Cheers!
Scarpad 09-18-09, 08:47 AM Anyone know what's going on with Ch.34 and Retro TV, they were supposed to be up and running by now, but to date the old programming on the channel is still in effect. Is this still happenning?
Anyone know what's going on with Ch.34 and Retro TV, they were supposed to be up and running by now, but to date the old programming on the channel is still in effect. Is this still happenning?
Like you, I've been checking Channel 34 every once in awhile to see if the change of programming providers has occurred. This station currently still shows Ringside Boxing, hunting programs, and obscure movies.
The article that I read on what is now called TVNewsCheck.com gave a long list of stations across the country that were switching to the Retro TV network, but gave no specific dates for the change. Springfield, Massachusetts and WESA/34 were on the list, although the article had accidentally transposed the call letters to read WSEA.
Retro TV's website has a map of the U.S. showing all its affiliates. There is a blue dot over Springfield, and when you roll your mouse over the dot, a box pops up listing "WSEA-DT". Again, the call letters are in the wrong order, and this low-power station does not yet have a digital version. If it did, analog channel 34 would be video snow. Based on the FCC website, it may be 2010-2011 before WESA flash cuts to digital channel 34. Lower down on the Retro TV webpage, most of the Retro affiliates have a link near their call letters to a coverage map to show where Retro can be seen. I noticed that neither Springfield or Hartford have this coverage map link. (See the Retro TV webpage here: http://www.myretrotv.com/affiliates.html#)
The best thing that I can suggest is to keep checking 34 occasionally. If I happen to read anything new about this I'll post the information here. Maybe Channel 34's contract with the AMGTV network runs until a certain time, like December 31st, so it can't legally make the switch until its current programming contract expires.
SlickSpur 09-22-09, 07:39 AM I manually went through Charters channel lineup yesterday quickly with my new Tivo and here is what i got for unscrambled QAM channels. Please add others if you know of them I may have missed a few.
QAM Channels
86.1 CBS Hartford HD
86.2 CBS weather LD
86.3 CBS Spfld LD
88.9 – on demand
89.2 – CSN HD
90.1 – Fox 6 Spfld HD
90.3 – NBC 22 Spfld HD
102.1 PBS WGBY HD
102.2 – FOX 61 HD
102.3 – PBS WGBY
102.5 PBS WGBY
102.6 PBS WGBY
103.3 NESN HD
BTW I also do OTA with a basic Radio Shack roof antenna and I get
3.1,3.2,3.3
8.1
18.1,18.2,18.3
20.1
24.1
30.1,30.2,30.3
40.1,40.2
57.1,57.2,57.3,57.4 (most of the time) - thinking about an pre-amp to help..
61.1
What stinks about tivo is they don't have guide info for QAM but they do for OTA so this is why i have it.
Well , looks like Charter has switched their QAM programming as you guys have mentioned. I havent found a single HD channel. Does anyone have an updated list?
Umatter2Charter 09-22-09, 01:42 PM Good afternoon everyone,
We will progressively be adding 17 new HD channels starting on October 20th and continuing until November 10th. Here are the proposed additions. The actual channels are yet to be confirmed due to pending contractual agreements but we should have a confirmed list a few weeks before the launch. The channels will be launched on the Oxford Headend/Chicopee Headend and our CT Headends.
USA HD 743 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
BRAVO HD 702 20-Oct-2009 HDTIER1
DISNEY CHANNEL HD 753 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
LIFETIME HD 748 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
TRAVEL CHANNEL HD 738 20-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
CNN HD 728 27-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
SCIENCE CHANNEL HD 715 27-Oct-2009 HDTIER2
CNBC HD 723 27-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
HALLMARK MOVIE CHANNEL SD 194 27-Oct-2009 Digital View Plus
HALLMARK MOVIE CHANNEL HD 707 27-Oct-2009 HDTIER2
SPEED CHANNEL HD 763 27-Oct-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
SYFY HD 720 3-Nov-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
AMERICAN MOVE CLASSICS HD 705 3-Nov-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
IFC HD 703 3-Nov-2009 HDTIER2
WE HD 750 3-Nov-2009 HDTIER1
FUSE HD 710 3-Nov-2009 HDTIER2
NHL NETWORK HD 765 10-Nov-2009 HDSPORTS
CARTOON NETWORK HD 756 10-Nov-2009 Expanded (HD ONLY)
rmahlert 09-23-09, 12:46 PM Please.. we do NOT matter to Charter! Charter is the worst customer service I have ever dealt with.. PERIOD! The last draw was when I ended up deciding to cancel TV service.. the guy said there is no such thing as free OTA HD TV. Tried to tell me I have to pay for OTA HD TV!!!!!!! (Rep was in South Carolina if I remember)
Within 5 calls.. I had 3 different prices for TV and internet service... all in the same week. I decided the basic(not extended) TV was not worth the money for the crappy channel line-up Charter offers in the area. I get the local stations I want all in HD.. FOR FREE!! I had a great package and would have stayed if it was extended. But to charge $45 for just local TV in SD(analog) and then another $40 for internet?? I was paying $5 for the Basic TV.. I can see going up $10 or $15.. but to $45?????? It was first offered at $29, then $15, back to $29 and ended up at $45 and I had had it and had them pull the plug ASAP.
If Verizon had 7mb DSL available at my location.. I would have left Charter completely!
Umatter2Charter 09-23-09, 03:51 PM Please.. we do NOT matter to Charter! Charter is the worst customer service I have ever dealt with.. PERIOD! The last draw was when I ended up deciding to cancel TV service.. the guy said there is no such thing as free OTA HD TV. Tried to tell me I have to pay for OTA HD TV!!!!!!! (Rep was in South Carolina if I remember)
Within 5 calls.. I had 3 different prices for TV and internet service... all in the same week. I decided the basic(not extended) TV was not worth the money for the crappy channel line-up Charter offers in the area. I get the local stations I want all in HD.. FOR FREE!! I had a great package and would have stayed if it was extended. But to charge $45 for just local TV in SD(analog) and then another $40 for internet?? I was paying $5 for the Basic TV.. I can see going up $10 or $15.. but to $45?????? It was first offered at $29, then $15, back to $29 and ended up at $45 and I had had it and had them pull the plug ASAP.
If Verizon had 7mb DSL available at my location.. I would have left Charter completely!
You definitely matter. That's why we are here. I can review your account for you and modify it to fit your needs. Please send me a PM.
George
rmahlert 09-25-09, 04:29 PM I canceled TV service.. and I'm happy with the FREE OTA HD and I also receive the Boston station I want in addition to the Springfield stations. I have no plans to go back to over paying for local TV service.
But if Charter added the Boston stations BACK and killed the Hartford stations they gave us instead that don't offer us any Massachusetts news or weather like the Boston station do.. I might go back. Yes, I'm in the Springfield market, but I boarder the Boston DMA and they have a hell of a lot more coverage for my area than the Hartford stations.
You definitely matter. That's why we are here. I can review your account for you and modify it to fit your needs. Please send me a PM.
George
Thanks for trying I guess...
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