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I guess WFXB did not make any changes to the digital transmitter when the analog was shut down.

Like for example taking the ch 43 antenna off the top & moving the digital ch 18 from the side to the top.

I made some measurments of the digital ch 18 while ch 43 was still on the air & not long after the digital ch 18 went on the air at 1000kw. I do not think the levels have changed since I took the measurements.

But any way I though you might like to have a report of WFXB in Myrtle Beach & the actual db measured on a semcore signal meter.

On the floor of my house west Myrtle Beach I measured WFBX ch 18 on a clip on uhf bow tie a -29 db.

On a radio shack vu190 in my attic about 17 feet above the ground facing your tower though a gable with plastic siding. I have a 40 feet of rg6 & a channel master indoor amp 3042. I measured on ch 18 -15db.

I had to use a distribution amp becauased it could handle strong signals when the outdoor amps could not.

At that time ch 43 was on the air & ch 43 was a +14db on that same connection.


When using an out door preamp ch 43 & about 3 other uhf stations came in all over the UHF dial & distored the signal beause of over loading the preamp. but this distrbution amp is really made to connect to tv cable & can handle strong signals. But you can see why when preamps are for weak signals & then there was about 4 very strong stations coming in then why the pre amp caused problems. Some amps do give a max number of channels & their signal level. But none tell what the minimum signal is. I assume it is someithing like a -70 or -60. I do know that my receivers will receive down to a -40 digital signal & work fine. But the the signal needs to be steady when that low. If meter is moving up & down when the signal is that low it can go too low & the tv screen go out. The in door distribution amp brings in a few more stations that I can not receive with out it & that is why I assume they may go down to a -70 or so.

But about watching WFXB on a portable tv when the storms have taken the power off, I think I will have enough signal with an indoor bow tie. But if we end up watching tv like that I hope I am sitting in front of a fire in the fire place because we have a a bad ice storm & not a hurricane.

Our digital has been completed and at full power for some time now, so no changes were made other than turning off the analog transmitter.

bdfox as of this afternoon we still don't have the weather radar channel. Come on TWC.

the channel is now live!

For the Northeast fans in SC, This from the Time Warner Upcoming Channel Change Lineup

August 1, 2009: YES Network,YES HD, NESN and NESN HD will be added to the Games and Sports Tier.



August 11, 2009: HSN will move from Channel 78 (Cable Tier) to Channel 13 (Broadcast Tier) in Georgetown, Brown’s Ferry/Sampit and Surfside Beach North.



WMMP will be added to Channel 2 (Broadcast Tier) in Surfside Beach South.



WBTW (Channel 13) will no longer be available in Georgetown and Brown’s Ferry/Sampit. WBTW (Channel 13) and WBTW HD (Channel 810) will no longer be available in Surfside Beach South.



WCBD (Channel 2) will no longer be available in Surfside Beach North

Greetings all, I am visiting the Myrtle Beach area in a week or so and will be bringing along my portable flat screen HDTV (gotta love having a 19" for travel purposes). We are staying on Ocean Blvd in Myrtle Beach, so I was hoping someone familiar with the area could help me out by providing a list of QAM channels that I should be able to pick up in this area? I did a search for QAM, but the posts all seemed rather dated. Thanks in advance for any information.

Greetings all, I am visiting the Myrtle Beach area in a week or so and will be bringing along my portable flat screen HDTV (gotta love having a 19" for travel purposes). We are staying on Ocean Blvd in Myrtle Beach, so I was hoping someone familiar with the area could help me out by providing a list of QAM channels that I should be able to pick up in this area? I did a search for QAM, but the posts all seemed rather dated. Thanks in advance for any information.

I do not know about QAM but I can answer for ATSC OTA using a in door bow tie antenna like you get from Radio Shack.

Depending on which side of the building you are staying in, which side the window of your room is facing & how high the floor of the room you may get several stations.

If your room has a window facing up the north side of the strand you will get 2 or 3 main stations with the additional sub.

If your room is facing south of the strand you will get maybe 4 of the Charleston stations. If facing the west then you will get 3 or 4 more stations from Florence.

If you are facing the ocean you will get a very strong local NBC and maybe a combination of the list above.

We are staying on Ocean Blvd in Myrtle Beach, so I was hoping someone familiar with the area .

That's part of what TWC calls the "hotel loop" and is a custom channel package different from what most people here get. You probably will find few if any QAMs in a hotel. You will just have to scan and see.

That's part of what TWC calls the "hotel loop" and is a custom channel package different from what most people here get. You probably will find few if any QAMs in a hotel. You will just have to scan and see.

If you want HD bring your bow tie in door uhf antenna or you may only get analog tv cable that looks nasty. At best you may get sd compressed digital channels. Oh bomba said tv cable in not needed because we have free OTA. Thus the tv cable did not get any stimulus money. The tv cable plans to get their share of the money by encrypting the digital signal. Thus they can force these wanting hd to get the cable hd box & they can control every channel, watch every move you make & compress the signal when & where they have a chance. They must to obtain their share of the stimulus money or filthy Lucre

Let me know when ESPN is free.

Let me know when ESPN is free.


I do not have a problem with you paying for ESPN if you want it. But only you should have to pay for it & only you should receive it.

Since the tv cable box has the digital equipment to pass only the channels the customer wants & block those they do not. The US GOV should flat oirder the tv cable to just do it that way & pass the cost of the channel on to the customer. Dish network was doing in 1999. Dish had an offer to pick 15 of any of the 300 channels for $10.00 each month instead of the tv cable deciding what channels to pick out & group together. Sending the group with unwanted channels to customers they do not want them but making them pay for them. It has been in congress & the senate. The tv cable refuses to do the Cable TV a la carte.

A good example tv cable = filthy Lucre!

Why did Dish stop doing that? Was it cost efficient? Should Beach Ford sell and service just Ford or also Chevy, Nissan, Toyota. Mercedes and every make made? If they had to do that would a Ford still cost the same? Would they still be able to compete with Tidelands Ford who is only selling and servicing Ford?

Cable packages strike a balance between choice and cost/benefit efficiency.

Why did Dish stop doing that? Was it cost efficient? Should Beach Ford sell and service just Ford or also Chevy, Nissan, Toyota. Mercedes and every make made? If they had to do that would a Ford still cost the same? Would they still be able to compete with Tidelands Ford who is only selling and servicing Ford?

Cable packages strike a balance between choice and cost/benefit efficiency.

They should be unbundling the cost of those channels.

How many times I have been to a dealer ship to buy a new car; They try to let them get the loan for you & sell extended warrenty. Why because the make money on that stuff. Plus what they made of the sell of the new car. I tell them I just want to buy the car, not this other stuff. It is the same with the tv cable.

the bundling is cost efficent for the tv cable, NOT the customer if, they do not want but 1/4 of the channels. Like the car dealer ship the make more money if they can sell you more even if you do not want it or even need it.

The bomba admin needs to do with the tv cable like the phone CO wast done 25 years ago. Back then long distant calls were very high. But local phone service was low. The money made off the long distant calls where paying for the local phone service. Those who were new to Horry & did not know any one local but there family & freinds were a long distant call. When they were making the high long distant calls they were paying for the local phone service that they seldom used. Therefore they were paying for the local service for the localse who did not make the long distant calls. But the locals were big times users of the local service.

I saw the tv cable folks on cspan rebelling against unbundling in a senate hearing. I applaud the senate say go after the tv cable. Apply the same laws like they have the the local phone CO. The tv cable is guilty of filthy Lucre!

the bundling is cost efficent for the tv cable, NOT the customer if

Cost efficient for cable and in turn the customer. Otherwise you would pay a lot more for the same channels or the same for less channels.

If you want HD bring your bow tie in door uhf antenna or you may only get analog tv cable that looks nasty. At best you may get sd compressed digital channels. Oh bomba said tv cable in not needed because we have free OTA. Thus the tv cable did not get any stimulus money. The tv cable plans to get their share of the money by encrypting the digital signal. Thus they can force these wanting hd to get the cable hd box & they can control every channel, watch every move you make & compress the signal when & where they have a chance. They must to obtain their share of the stimulus money or filthy Lucre
Our president's name is OBAMA. Try to remember that. BTW, the stimulus program has nothing to do with OTA or cable reception in Myrtle Beach. Try to save your political rantings for other forums.

Cost efficient for cable and in turn the customer. Otherwise you would pay a lot more for the same channels or the same for less channels.

You are right because you depend on othes to pay to carry espn.


To unbundle I would pay less because I never watch espn so I would not have to pay for it. You would pay more because you are carring the full expeince to carry espn.

Exactly. So we have come full circle.


Let me know when ESPN is free.

Exactly. So we have come full circle.

Thus you should have to pay for all of the cost & not your neighborhood. You neihgborhood should not have to pay for espn & it should not be coming to their house. Will your bill go up, yes becasue no one is help you or the tv cable to bring you espn.

In the old days of analog cable it was not cost effective to sell espn as a single channel to a customer. But now wiht digital boxes on top of the set it is as esay as passing or blocking hbo.

ESPN is as popular as the big 4 networks if not more so. You are in the minority. Ala carte would be cheaper only for a small minority of people.

David,

A lot of people will be really upset if they are forced into renting a box every month. There are pros and cons. I believe the rental of the box should not exist if the cable snake gets rid of analog expanded cable. I completely agree also on the choice idea. People should be able to pick channels in groups of ten and then pay for the ones they choose, thus having as many or as few as they want to pay for. IF JUST ONE company would do this... imagine!

Why can't the bama get involved in this? He has a lot of other stuff. We are too concerned with foreign countries and not our own business!!!!!!

Same as ala carte. People would be adding and subtracting from their carts of 10 constantly and costs and prices would skyrocket from admin costs. Not a difficult concept and exactly why you have not seen even "JUST ONE" do this.

Our president's name is OBAMA. Try to remember that. BTW, the stimulus program has nothing to do with OTA or cable reception in Myrtle Beach. Try to save your political rantings for other forums.


That is just what I said. Go back & reread my post #1758. "the tv cable did not get any stimulus money"

The tv cable wants obtain some of that money by charging for stuff folks do not want. I want his admin to order an unbundling of the tv cable the the Local phone systems have been done.

Same as ala carte. People would be adding and subtracting from their carts of 10 constantly and costs and prices would skyrocket from admin costs. Not a difficult concept and exactly why you have not seen even "JUST ONE" do this.


What about putting a limit on how often you can change your services? It doesn't seem unreasonable to me to put a limit say of no more than 3 times a year, or you will be billed for the operator assistance. Not a hard concept if you know how to run a business.

Ok go tell them how to run their business!

Same as ala carte. People would be adding and subtracting from their carts of 10 constantly and costs and prices would skyrocket from admin costs. Not a difficult concept and exactly why you have not seen even "JUST ONE" do this.

dish network did it.

If espn is that big then it should be easy & cost effective.

If hbo is cost effective then espn should be easy & cost effective

Guess you haven't notice how much HBO costs. Big difference.

ESPN is one of the more expensive networks for cable and satellite to compensate.

ESPN costs about $3.50 a month (http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=95303). Much less than is paid to HBO. Get your facts straight.

ESPN costs about $3.50 a month (http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=95303). Much less than is paid to HBO. Get your facts straight.

I never compared it to HBO, that was you. ESPN costs more than the other channels carried in the same tier... How about that? HBO is a PREMIUM service.

So what's your point? Bottom line is any form of ala carte will cost the typical subscriber much more than the current package choices.

So what's your point? Bottom line is any form of ala carte will cost the typical subscriber much more than the current package choices.

If you don't watch all those channels, how are you getting your monies worth anyway? If I have 20 cable channels, and no locals because I use an antenna and pay $25 a month, that would be fine. Less is sometimes more if the content is satisfactory on those channels. If they change the program line-up, and I no longer watch such-and-such channel, I drop it and add another. I can do that up to a set number of times without extra payment, and it may be worth it to me to pay say a five dollar assistants fee once or twice a year, and I still save money, and the company will gain more customers, and the rich will be happy because they can get everything I offer, and the poor will be happy with their ten channels.

If you don't watch all those channels, how are you getting your monies worth anyway? If I have 20 cable channels, and no locals because I use an antenna and pay $25 a month, that would be fine. Less is sometimes more if the content is satisfactory on those channels. If they change the program line-up, and I no longer watch such-and-such channel, I drop it and add another. I can do that up to a set number of times without extra payment, and it may be worth it to me to pay say a five dollar assistants fee once or twice a year, and I still save money, and the company will gain more customers, and the rich will be happy because they can get everything I offer, and the poor will be happy with their ten channels.

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Ok go tell them how to run their business!

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We will order them how to run their bussiness.

We will write our congressman & ask the to make legislation ordering the tv cable to unbundle their services and tax espn like the current admin is going to tax cigerettes. We will also write both our senators & ask them to sign the tv cable unbundling bill.


Once in Law the cable tv folks will obey or go to prison.

There you go! Use a spell checker if you really want to impress them. ;)

We will order them how to run their bussiness.

We will write our congressman & ask the to make legislation ordering the tv cable to unbundle their services and tax espn like the current admin is going to tax cigerettes. We will also write both our senators & ask them to sign the tv cable unbundling bill.


Once in Law the cable tv folks will obey or go to prison.I recommend that you consider campaign contributions to our Congressfolk from the cable companies.

WPDE now has sidebars during there news broadcasts. It says "News" during the News Segments. Weather during the Weather Segment. Sports during Sports segment. Hopefully this is the beginning of eventually going HD or atleast Widescreen.

WPDE now has sidebars during there news broadcasts. It says "News" during the News Segments. Weather during the Weather Segment. Sports during Sports segment.


Maybe they just think their viewers with HDTv's are dumb? :)

WBTW being dropped in Georgetown, WNCT has already been dropped in northern NC, even for an in market county w/o 30 day notice to viewers and the station, and now WCBD will be dropped in Horry county. All three stations are Media General. This is TIME WARNER CABLE of course.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/328339-Media_General_Files_FCC_Complaint_as_Time_Warner_Cable_Drops _WCBD.php

WBTW being dropped in Georgetown, WNCT has already been dropped in northern NC, even for an in market county w/o 30 day notice to viewers and the station, and now WCBD will be dropped in Horry county. All three stations are Media General. This is TIME WARNER CABLE of course.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/328339-Media_General_Files_FCC_Complaint_as_Time_Warner_Cable_Drops _WCBD.php


This is when the TWC customers should then drop TWC cable & connect their tv to an antenna.

Let me know when I can get ESPN with an antenna.

Does anyone know why Time Warner does not carry WWMB-HD?

Let me know when I can get ESPN with an antenna.

Sure. ESPN on ABC weekends.;)

Who is to say you can't have an antenna with your cable?

Let me know when I can get ESPN with an antenna.



You can.

It is called a satilight.

You will have to pay to decode the signal thou

Never heard of satilight.

Never heard of satilight.

That's because it's called satchelite..:)

satchelite Paige the ole baseball pitcher? Now him I've heard of.

WBTW being dropped in Georgetown, WNCT has already been dropped in northern NC, even for an in market county w/o 30 day notice to viewers and the station, and now WCBD will be dropped in Horry county. All three stations are Media General. This is TIME WARNER CABLE of course.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/328339-Media_General_Files_FCC_Complaint_as_Time_Warner_Cable_Drops _WCBD.php
Wow--no WBTW in Georgetown--surely WPDE will also be dropped, and TW never bothered to put WFXB, WWNB, or WMBF on in Georgetown. So basically this means no local TV news for Georgetown County for TW subscribers, since the Myrtle Beach/Florence stations were always the local news source, which makes sense since MYB the studios are right up Kings Hywy (25 miles?). TIme Warner does not believe in out of market stations AT ALL, which is stupid, since it removes one of advantages cable has over satelite.

TIme Warner does not believe in out of market stations AT ALL

I think it's more like the FCC designated DMA stations don't believe in it.

The FCC does not designate market areas. That is done by Nielson Media Research.

The FCC does not designate market areas. That is done by Nielson Media Research.

Ok amended to read -

I think it's more like the Nielson Media Research designated DMA stations don't believe in it.

November 23, 2009: The following channels will be added:

HBO Signature East HD - Channel 904 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium HBO)
HBO Family East HD - Channel 905 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium HBO)
HBO Comedy East HD - Channel 897 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium HBO)
HBO Zone East HD - Channel 898 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium HBO)
HBO Latino East HD - Channel 900 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium HBO)
Showtime Too HD - Channel 923 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium Showtime)
Action Max HD - Channel 908 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium Cinemax)
Cartoon Network HD - Channel 827 (HDTV Digital Converter and Basic Cable)
WE HD - Channel 828 (HDTV Digital Converter and Basic Cable)
IFC HD - Channel 862 (HDTV Digital Converter and Digital Movie Tier)


October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

HBO 2 East HD - Channel 903 (HDTV Digital Converter and premium HBO)
BBC America HD - Channel 858 (HDTV Digital Converter and Digital Tier)
Headline News HD - Channel 825 (HDTV Digital Converter and Basic Cable)
Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 831 (HDTV Digital Converter and Digital Tier)
Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 876 (Free On Demand)
TCM HD - Channel 861 (HDTV Digital Converter and Basic Cable)
MSNBC HD - Channel 826 (HDTV Digital Converter and Basic Cable)
truTV HD - Channel 829 (HDTV Digital Converter and Basic Cable)

Well it looks like TWC in our area is ready to switch from SARA to NAVIGATOR on the Scientific Atlanta STB's. We got a mailing announcing the change today, but it did not give a specific timetable for the SW download.

I will eventually go through the relevant threads in the SA8300 area (our STB), but if any of you in the area have recently been converted to Navigator, I'd appreciate your comments- good, bad, or ho-hum...

Thanks,
Mike

can someone explain this email from the station manager of WPDE (Billy Huggins)

Lee, we have the new 5.1 Dolby equipment in house. The problem is that ABC just started embedding their audio in the digital signal and their new equipment requires for us to strip it out to feed the Dolby 5.1 equipment they provided. We want to leave it embedded as the quality is so much better. If they cannot provide Dolby 5.1 equipment to allow it then we will strip it our and pass it through the equipment provided. Give us a few more weeks.
We are in 720p but not in 16x9 until we get a new set built. Our old set was designed for 4 x 3 and we are getting set designs prepared right now. We hope to have it ready by May of 2010.


Is he actually saying that the two channel audio is better than the 5.1 quality???

WPDE HD is now showing up as 5.1

Here in Murrells Inlet on TWC we are getting awful sound from WPDE and the Charleston CBS affiliate, both of which indicate 5.1.