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neil0311

08-05-09, 05:12 PM

These are the new channels:

817 - WE HD
818 - Green Planet HD
819 - Biography HD
820 - QVC HD
821 - ESPN News HD
822 - CBS College Sports HDTV
824 - Big Ten Network HD
825 - BET HD
826 - CMT HD
828 - E! HD
829 - Style HD
831 - Fox Business HD
832 - The Weather Channel HD
836 - CNBC HD
837 - Fox News HD
843 - FX HD
851 - VH1 HD
853 - MTV HD
855 - Lifetime HD
860 - Travel HD
862 - Cartoon Network HD
863 - Nickelodeon HD
866 - Disney Extreme HD
868 - Comedy Central HD
871 - TVONE HD
872 - Bravo HD
873 - Fuse HD
875 - Speed HD
876 - G4 HD
878 - Spike HD
881 - NHL Network
882 - NBA TV HD
894 - MGM HD
896 - Hallmark HD
897 - Lifetime Movies HD
898 - IFC HD
899 - Encore HD

Don't forget all the Movie Channels that just got added at the same time:

701 - HBO HD (simulcast with previous location already on lineup)
703 - HBO2 HD
706 - HBO Zone HD
709 - HBO Latino HD
710 - Starz HD (simulcast with previous location already on lineup)
711 - Starz Edge HD
713 - Starz Kids & Family HD
715 - Starz Comedy HD
720 - Cinemax HD (simulcast with previous location already on lineup)
730 - Showtime HD (simulcast with previous location already on lineup)
732 - Showtime 2 HD
733 - Showtime Showcase HD
734 - Showtime Extreme HD
740 - TMC HD
741 - TMC Extra HD

McDonoughDawg

08-05-09, 05:14 PM

A work around on the recording multiple shows can be to tell the DVR to only save a show or two. It seems to be the worst on ScFi and USA to me....or maybe that's just the shows I have set to be recorded. :)

ChazzMatt

08-05-09, 07:59 PM

Agreed. At least they should be able to fix the guide or DVR interface to see through shows that don't list the "repeat" in the desriptions for any of their re-runs. I don't even have Bravo HD and the Top Chef "marathons" are bumping me towards a full drive. I'd say it's close to wiping out any unprotected shows, but a glitched recording of Warehouse 13 did that 2 weeks ago by recording 8 solid hours of SyFy. I do hate the Moto.

What ever happened to Comcast putting Tivo software on their boxes? Was that just a pilot study in the northeast that was abandoned, or did I hallucinate the whole thing?

supposed to still be coming, for like $5 more per month...

84lion

08-05-09, 08:59 PM

TCM is not yet in HD anywhere - except in NYC where Cablevision upconverts it into a 720p format. Even though it is not true HD, I have read that it still is an improvement over the 480i in terms of video appearance. To my knowledge, nobody else, including Comcast, is doing this anywhere.

According to Lyngsat, TCM has a HD feed on C Band satellite Galaxy 14, transponder 17.

What ever happened to Comcast putting Tivo software on their boxes? Was that just a pilot study in the northeast that was abandoned, or did I hallucinate the whole thing?

I believe I've read that Comcast in the Boston area does have Moto boxes with Tivo software...although from what I understand this is a pilot program with no immediate plans for adoption elsewhere.

supposed to still be coming, for like $5 more per month...

Last I checked, the Comcast DVR was $15.95/month...I assume the $5 more would make that $21/month...at that rate, the better solution is to buy the Tivo HD, either in XL format or upgrade yourself at the expense of voiding the warranty. Not only does the Tivo support Netflix streaming and other fun stuff, but it has a nice interface, stable operating system, great picture, supports downloading of unprotected content to computer, and I could go on. My understand is that a USB dongle is in the works to permit On-Demand access, which is about the only thing the Motos can do that the Tivo can't.

ChazzMatt

08-06-09, 02:33 AM

I believe I've read that Comcast in the Boston area does have Moto boxes with Tivo software...although from what I understand this is a pilot program with no immediate plans for adoption elsewhere.

Comcast is touting TiVo on their website, even letting you sign up and be notified when it comes to your area. But, yeah, New England is the only region where it is now. I heard the slow rollout was because they beta tested on employees first.

Supposedly Chicago is NEXT.

http://www.comcast.com/Tivo/

https://comcast.p.delivery.net/m/p/com/tivo/default.asp

Thank you for your interest in Comcast DVR with TiVo service, now available in New England.

http://www.comcast.com/tivo/FAQs.html

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

What is TiVo?

TiVo is one of the first and easiest to use Digital Video Recorder (DVR) services available. TiVo service offers a set of exclusive features that give consumers more control and choice over what they watch and when. Your TiVo service is always working for you, even when you're not at home, to automatically find and record the entertainment you want to watch.

What is the Comcast DVR with TiVo service?

TiVo has partnered with Comcast to introduce an integrated TiVo service that runs on Comcast's DVR set-top box. It includes not only award winning TiVo ease-of-use and smart search capabilities, but also improved scheduling and recording management.

How do I get the Comcast DVR with TiVo service?

Give Comcast a call or visit www.comcast.com/gettivo for more information. Our agents will set up an installation appointment at a time that is convenient for you.

What TiVo features will be available to Comcast subscribers that get the TiVo service?

The Comcast DVR with TiVo service will be very familiar if you’ve seen or used TiVo® products before. It has all of the major DVR features of TiVo retail standalone DVRs. Here's just a sample of what the TiVo service has to offer:

Easy to use TiVo interface: TiVo makes it easy to access all your digital cable services, from DVR recordings to On Demand.
Next Generation Search: Smart keyword search finds matches across not only title and description but also across TV and On Demand. Anything in HD is highlighted.
Integrated On Demand: Access thousands of TV shows and movies available on Channel 1 On Demand. With TiVo and On Demand, there’s always something great to watch.
WishList® Searches: Set-up custom searches that reflect your interests and automatically record matching shows. For example, Boston and Sports or Movies and Johnny Depp.
TiVo Recordings: Groups like recordings, such as all episodes of a show or WishList matches, into a sortable list. Even HD recordings are grouped.
TiVo Suggestions: If you like, your TiVo DVR can suggest and auto-record programs that match your preferences. TiVo Suggestions always take lower priority than your requested recordings.
What’s unique to Comcast DVR with TiVo service?

The DVR with TiVo service offers many exclusive features compared with other DVRs.

Like a search engine, TiVo lets you search for a show, an actor, or a subject across both television and On Demand. It’s never been easier to find what you want to watch.
With the new TiVo service, your DVR and On Demand are fully integrated. Watching On Demand is just like television with TiVo Trickplay™ - you can pause, rewind, fast-forward, and skip to tick.
WishList® searches automatically find and record shows based on a category or keyword, or a favorite actor, director, or sports team: like Red Sox Baseball
Season Pass™ recordings get you every episode of your favorite shows, even if the schedule changes.
TiVo highlights shows that are in HD in the guide and in search results, and you can even set a Season Pass or WishList® to record the HD version of a show if available.*
TiVo is so easy to use, the whole family can enjoy it.

I see you have a special TiVo remote - is that required?

The TiVo® remote is not required but takes advantage of all the features of the TiVo service. The award-winning TiVo remote provides one-button direct access to On Demand and to TiVo Central (TiVo's "home"). The Thumbs-up and Thumbs-down buttons allow you to rate programming so that TiVo can deliver TiVo Suggestions. The TiVo remote also has smart keys that enable quick access to filter the guide or customize your search. Finally, the TiVo remote is the most comfortable and intuitive remote you’ll ever own!

Comcast will provide the TiVo remote to all customers who select the TiVo service at the time of the installation. However, the existing remote that came with your Comcast DVR will operate all basic functions.**

Can I record two shows at once?

Yes, you can record two shows that are on at the same time, and you can even simultaneously play back a third show that has previously been recorded.

I have a High Definition Television set (HDTV). Does the Comcast DVR with TiVo service support High Definition (HD)?

Yes, the TiVo service makes it easy to get the most out of Comcast's HD programming, by prominently highlighting content available in HD from broadcast channels as well as On Demand. Icons highlight HD programs in the guide and in search results, a unique ‘HD’ folder in the TiVo Recordings menu groups HD programs for quick access, and Season Pass™ and WishList® options now feature a “Get in HD if available” option, to automatically record the HD version of a program.

Will I need to pay TiVo separately now and receive two different bills - one for cable and one for TiVo service?

No, you will not need to pay a separate bill to TiVo for the Comcast DVR with TiVo service. The billing relationship is entirely between Comcast and the Comcast subscriber.

Tybee

08-06-09, 02:49 PM

Let's not hijack this thread with Comcast Tivo discussion, please, especially when it's not available in Atlanta. There's a dedicated thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=682350) that will tell you everything you wish to know (Spoiler Alert: It's awful).

TCM is not yet in HD anywhere - except in NYC where Cablevision upconverts it into a 720p format. Even though it is not true HD, I have read that it still is an improvement over the 480i in terms of video appearance. To my knowledge, nobody else, including Comcast, is doing this anywhere.

Supposedly, Comcast added it in Seattle on July 21 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16670859&postcount=9061) and I've heard of its appearance in a few other places.

Hey Judge Smails: Lefont Plaza announced this week that they will be screening Big Trouble in Little China next month. I'll be there!

ChrisC47

08-06-09, 10:41 PM

MKK

08-07-09, 07:58 AM

For what it is worth, I stopped a Comcast engineer in our area (Pilgrim Mill Rd.) and he said it would be January 2010 before we get any of the expanded HD offering.:mad:

wlbandy

08-08-09, 09:40 AM

For what it is worth, I stopped a Comcast engineer in our area (Pilgrim Mill Rd.) and he said it would be January 2010 before we get any of the expanded HD offering.:mad:

Latest West Cobb expanded HD

illestdomer2005

08-08-09, 01:02 PM

Okay... I am getting HD envy reading about you all up in John's Creek and East Cobb who just had your Comcast HD world blown open, while we in town (Decatur in my case) are still living in a 20-something HD Channel world. Does anyone out there know of a time frame for Comcast to roll out their expanded HD offerings beyond where they are now? Nothing has come in the mail yet and no scrolls across the screen advising us to get a box or lose some of our favorite basic channels?

Anyone?

I am borderline livid. My gf who lives in Chattanooga, TN has basically the DirecTV HD lineup. You know the usual suspects - FXHD, Comedy Central HD, Spike HD, Big 10 HD, et al She doesn't have an HDTV or HD DVR. Even when she's at my place, she will frequently tune into the analog version of, say, TBS. Maddening.

I live in North Druid Hills, and I have the same crappy 30-something HD channels. I had Comcast HD for many years before switching over to DirecTV about a year ago and briefly getting spoiled with the glut of HD programming. Unfortunately, moving into a place in ATL with "no clear view of the southern sky" forced me back to Comcast for HDTV. I was looking to move and go the DirecTV route until I noticed my gf's HD lineup.

So I call Comcast, and they're clueless as usual. There may be some method to their madness, but I find it difficult to understand why Chattanooga with population nothing gets all these channels before one of the biggest markets in the country (Atlanta) receives them. Angry.

ChazzMatt

08-08-09, 01:05 PM

Back to wringing hands about new HDs on exurb headends ...

My neighborhood in the Kennesaw/Acworth area is supposed to drop analog next week, August 11. Can't wait! My Digital Adapter box is ready to be put into service for my office CRT. And my My 60" Sony in the living room is hungry for more HD channels. ;)

illestdomer2005

08-08-09, 02:09 PM

My neighborhood in the Kennesaw/Acworth area is supposed to drop analog next week, August 11. Can't wait! My Digital Adapter box is ready to be put into service for my office CRT. And my My 60" Sony in the living room is hungry for more HD channels. ;)

So is that what the changeover is? That is, do we get the new HD channels when Comcast drops analog? I received that little DTA (or whatever it's called) box a couple weeks ago because I got the notice about needing it in the near future (maybe September?). I don't recall any mention of new HD channels dropping, but that would be great :)

Tybee

08-10-09, 12:51 AM

The Plaza Theatre on Ponce was sold by George Lefont to a nice young couple years ago, so it's not the "Lefont Plaza" anymore. I know, old habits die hard :) They are doing an incredible job programming that place, and not just the movies, but odd non-movie activities too. Crispin Glover there was something else.

Old habits do die hard. My parents still refer to it as the "Lefont Plaza" so I guess I do too, even though I was aware of the change in ownership (for the better, IMO). Saw Purple Rain there last night!

hmatos

08-10-09, 07:52 AM

ChazzMatt

08-10-09, 10:42 AM

So is that what the changeover is? That is, do we get the new HD channels when Comcast drops analog? I received that little DTA (or whatever it's called) box a couple weeks ago because I got the notice about needing it in the near future (maybe September?). I don't recall any mention of new HD channels dropping, but that would be great :)

Yes. Scroll up to the top of this page to see the extra HD channels coming soon after the analog channels disappear.

Now the way Comcast is implementing it -- require DTAs even for digitial TVs -- points to the conclusion they have a dual agenda, to also stop cable piracy. But the main reason they are dropping analog channels is to free up space for more HD channels. They can put 3 (digital) HD channels in the space of one analog SD channel.

AtlantisMichael

08-10-09, 07:34 PM

Does anyone know what the IR codes are for the Pace DC50X Dta? I have an analog Panasonic DVR which I need the codes for it to change the channels on the dta so it can download TVGOS. At least I think the DTA from Comcast is carrying TVGOS through that box. Anyone know?
Thanks,
Michael

Emil Faber

08-11-09, 11:11 AM

ChazzMatt

08-11-09, 11:19 AM

Today is the day. Has anyone seen the new HD channels in the North Cobb - South Cherokee area? I did not see them this morning at 09:00 and Comcast says the upgrade has not been postponed.

Cheers,

jr

Woo! My analogs have dropped! I'm getting the message that the channels are available in digital only. Now I'm going to hook up the DTA for my office CRT.

I just checked the living room 60" Sony HDTV and no HD channels yet, but I didn't really expect to see them. The HD channels won't show up immediately. In other areas of Atlanta, it took 1 - 2 weeks from analog changeover to more HD channels being available.

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UPDATE:

Just went online and activated my DTA using the "unique customer ID" on the front of the box. When I typed that in, it took me to a page with the DTA box serial number already listed. I checked it and activated. Almost immediately my programming started coming in.

I then set remote sensor of the DTA on the front of my TV so I can hide the box behind the TV. I also auto-set the remote codes so the DTA remote works as my TV remote.

yunro

08-11-09, 05:58 PM

jon1964

08-11-09, 06:03 PM

Amen...

84lion

08-11-09, 09:07 PM

Has anyone with an HD TiVo that's received these new channels started getting program data? I'm in Alpharetta/Milton and I believe these channels have been available for 2+ or so months, but they're unusable without program data.

I was wondering about that myself. We just got the channels about a week or so ago in East Cobb and there is no program data for any of the new channels. For most it is simply a matter of looking up the SD version of the channel and if you want HD, doing a manual program (I have become very good at that in the past week or so...). For channels like MGM HD and the HBO HD adds, it means going online. Not a huge deal but I was wondering if anyone has called Tivo about this?

illestdomer2005

08-13-09, 03:10 PM

And of course those of us who live in the city still have no idea when our area will be upgraded. Like a friend of mine said once uverse was about to roll out in his area Comcast suddenly upgraded his service, and those of us who have no options are forced to wait.

That's my feeling. People in the city usually can't get satellite since you have to have a clear shot at the SW, and that is either blocked by wonky location or other obstructions. So what are your other options? As long as FIOS and Uverse aren't in the picture, you can either try a digital antenna or get cable. Since most places are territory exclusive, your only option is Comcast.

It burns me up, but it just goes to show why capitalism is the greatest economic system -- competition is a necessity for fair prices and products. Without competition, consumers get the shaft.

illestdomer2005

08-13-09, 03:11 PM

Yes. Scroll up to the top of this page to see the extra HD channels coming soon after the analog channels disappear.

Now the way Comcast is implementing it -- require DTAs even for digitial TVs -- points to the conclusion they have a dual agenda, to also stop cable piracy. But the main reason they are dropping analog channels is to free up space for more HD channels. They can put 3 (digital) HD channels in the space of one analog SD channel.

Excellent. I was at Vintage Pizza today (off of Chamblee Tucker near Peachtree Industrial), and the TV was on ESPN. A message scrolled across saying that the channel would be digital only on September 15. So, my guess is that since I live in North Druid Hills, that timeframe should be about the same for me. Hopefully, the new HD channels come in short order :)

whodean

08-13-09, 04:13 PM

That's my feeling. People in the city usually can't get satellite since you have to have a clear shot at the SW, and that is either blocked by wonky location or other obstructions. So what are your other options? As long as FIOS and Uverse aren't in the picture, you can either try a digital antenna or get cable. Since most places are territory exclusive, your only option is Comcast.

It burns me up, but it just goes to show why capitalism is the greatest economic system -- competition is a necessity for fair prices and products. Without competition, consumers get the shaft.

You have another option, get Comcast's 22mb/s HSI, use a Media Center PC and download h.264 HD shows. Doesn't help with live sporting events and the like though.

jayntguru

08-13-09, 11:48 PM

Yes, until you hit the 250gb cap and they shut you off. The limit is not higher with the faster connections.. total ripoff. If it wasn't so fast and the other options didn't suck, I would drop Comcast very quickly.

whodean

08-14-09, 08:31 AM

They haven't shut me off yet...

Nathan_R

08-14-09, 10:16 AM

Yes, it's definitely a soft cap. ;)

On topic: I haven't noticed any new HD in my area (Sprayberry HS) since the quoted Aug 11 analog shut-off. Come on, new channels!

whodean

08-14-09, 11:34 AM

I don't think the analog switch off is as closely related to Comcast offering the new channels as we might hope.

illestdomer2005

08-14-09, 11:44 AM

You have another option, get Comcast's 22mb/s HSI, use a Media Center PC and download h.264 HD shows. Doesn't help with live sporting events and the like though.

Haha, EZTV FTW! But I just want live programming. Sports are huge. If it weren't for football season, I wouldn't even pay for cable, but alas I need ESPN and Fox Sports...

I just hate paying as much for Comcast as it would cost to get the whole enchilada from DirecTV. I don't know about you guys, but I don't give a flying rat's a$$ about HD On Demand. If it were FREE, it might be a different story, but don't try to show off you $5 HD downloads. Ripoff.

ChazzMatt

08-14-09, 03:37 PM

I don't think the analog switch off is as closely related to Comcast offering the new channels as we might hope.

It IS related, but the other areas who have already done it said it took 1 - 2 weeks. First the analog channels drop. Then the new HD channels appear.

It never happens in reverse order. :p

McDonoughDawg

08-14-09, 03:49 PM

Haha, EZTV FTW! But I just want live programming. Sports are huge. If it weren't for football season, I wouldn't even pay for cable, but alas I need ESPN and Fox Sports...

I just hate paying as much for Comcast as it would cost to get the whole enchilada from DirecTV. I don't know about you guys, but I don't give a flying rat's a$$ about HD On Demand. If it were FREE, it might be a different story, but don't try to show off you $5 HD downloads. Ripoff.

I do have access to many programs on FREE HD OnDemand,

Greg613

08-14-09, 07:35 PM

Has anyone with an HD TiVo that's received these new channels started getting program data? I'm in Alpharetta/Milton and I believe these channels have been available for 2+ or so months, but they're unusable without program data.

Thanks,

hm

I live in Johns Creek and here is a work around for Tivo to provide the program info. Hope this helps.

Go to:

- TiVo Central (by pressing the TiVo button on your TiVo remote)

- Select Messages and Settings

- Select Settings

- Select Channels

- Select Channel List

- Press the ENTER key

Follow the onscreen instructions to complete this portion of the Guided Setup. Your TiVo DVR will ask you to answer questions regarding your channels to determine the correct channel lineup.

Please ensure that the TiVo is using zip code 30076.
When you are asked to select your provider, please choose Comcast Atlanta World of More (WOM) - Atlanta, GA.
On the next screen, press the ENTER key. This will take you to a list of available lineups where you must choose Digital.

From there just get the program info and you are good to go.

Tybee

08-15-09, 12:53 AM

Haha, EZTV FTW! But I just want live programming. Sports are huge. If it weren't for football season, I wouldn't even pay for cable, but alas I need ESPN and Fox Sports...

I just hate paying as much for Comcast as it would cost to get the whole enchilada from DirecTV. I don't know about you guys, but I don't give a flying rat's a$$ about HD On Demand. If it were FREE, it might be a different story, but don't try to show off you $5 HD downloads. Ripoff.

Not sure what you're talking about, but there's quite a bit of free HD OnDemand material. For instance, we caught up on season 1 and 2 of Mad Men this summer by watching it in HD (and commercial free) OnDemand. It's not perfect, but there is some good stuff on there.

ChazzMatt

08-15-09, 07:08 AM

Not sure what you're talking about, but there's quite a bit of free HD OnDemand material. For instance, we caught up on season 1 and 2 of Mad Men this summer by watching it in HD (and commercial free) OnDemand. It's not perfect, but there is some good stuff on there.

I showed my wife all the free HD movies available and she watched a bunch this summer. She didn't know they were there!

Think of it this way.

1) IF you rent a brand-new release from Blockbuster, you are going pay $4 + gas and time to go there AND to return it. But, rent a brand-new release from Comcast, it's $5 and it's always available -- not checked out. Plus, it's instant and you don't have to go return it.

2) If you rent an OLD release from Blockbuster, you are still going to pay $4 + gas and time. But, rent an old release from Comcast, it's FREE.

So, Comcast wins on old and new releases.

los

08-15-09, 11:02 AM

Should the Comcast DTAs get the same non-HD channels that the HD DVRs get?

MY DTA seems to get some, but not all, of the channels above 79. I was expecting to get the same channels my HD DVR gets too (except for the HD ones).

If the DTA will not get the same set of channels, how do I stop the Tivo from trying to record the ones that aren't there?

Have I just picked the wrong lineups?

Thanks,

Carlos

84lion

08-15-09, 11:09 AM

I live in Johns Creek and here is a work around for Tivo to provide the program info. Hope this helps.

I did this last night for my Tivo and am doing it now for my wife's Tivo. This works GREAT - all the program data is there!

traubgator

08-16-09, 11:11 AM

sorry, for coming late to the party.
i'm on the stone mountain head over here in Norcross.

When should i expect this amazing new channel lineup? i have a dch3416 box.

pcgraffy

08-17-09, 09:21 AM

This probably is the last question/complaint most of you want to hear right now.....

But, for those of you that have received the new HD channels - is your "Local on the 8s" on 832 actually working? For me (Sandy Springs), it's just a summary of national forecasts like you would get in a hotel room.

The local forecasts on channel 32 are still working fine.

AtlantisMichael

08-17-09, 12:04 PM

North Cobb Comcast--- Has anyone gotten the new HD channels yet? I was told that a rescan had to be done for them to show up. Has anybdy done so? What about your clear QAM channels? I will not be back in Woodstock till the weekend and was just checking for my girlfriend. She does not like to mess around with all this.
Michael
Also heard that some of the Basic HDs, TNT, FX, etc.. should show up with clear QAM as well as the locals. Just need to rescan.

hmatos

08-17-09, 12:30 PM

Thank you, that worked great!

I live in Johns Creek and here is a work around for Tivo to provide the program info. Hope this helps.

Go to:

- TiVo Central (by pressing the TiVo button on your TiVo remote)

- Select Messages and Settings

- Select Settings

- Select Channels

- Select Channel List

- Press the ENTER key

Follow the onscreen instructions to complete this portion of the Guided Setup. Your TiVo DVR will ask you to answer questions regarding your channels to determine the correct channel lineup.

Please ensure that the TiVo is using zip code 30076.
When you are asked to select your provider, please choose Comcast Atlanta World of More (WOM) - Atlanta, GA.
On the next screen, press the ENTER key. This will take you to a list of available lineups where you must choose Digital.

From there just get the program info and you are good to go.

commodore_dude

08-17-09, 02:18 PM

pcgraffy

08-17-09, 04:56 PM

AFAIK no city has an HD Weatherstar yet, which means no local info on the HD Weather Channel.

Thanks. This is from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WeatherStar), so take it fwiw.

An as-of-yet unnamed HD STAR system (unofficially the WeatherSTAR HD) was introduced to a New York cable headend carrying The Weather Channel HD in late 2008. Currently, there is no narration, lower display line bar, or icon animation, and there are still a few bugs [1]. It is the first system to feature a high-definition 1080i 16:9 output. It is expected to be fully launched sometime in 2009. [2] This unit will only be used on The Weather Channel HD and will not replace the IntelliStar or other units on the standard definition channel or on Weatherscan.

84lion

08-17-09, 05:02 PM

Thank you, that worked great!

Originally Posted by Greg613
I live in Johns Creek and here is a work around for Tivo to provide the program info. Hope this helps.

The only anomaly I noticed is that HBO Zone HD and HBO Latino HD appear to be swapped in the grid. In other words, if you choose the HBO Zone HD channel via the grid, you get HBO Latino HD and vice versa. What is really strange is that if you search for the movie (via Tivo) search feature, the channel number that comes up in the search appears to be correct! Anyone else noticing this?

AtlantaDave

08-17-09, 06:15 PM

The only anomaly I noticed is that HBO Zone HD and HBO Latino HD appear to be swapped in the grid. In other words, if you choose the HBO Zone HD channel via the grid, you get HBO Latino HD and vice versa. What is really strange is that if you search for the movie (via Tivo) search feature, the channel number that comes up in the search appears to be correct! Anyone else noticing this?

Those same two channels were switched here like that for a few weeks, but it was finally corrected. The only problem I still see remaining is that the TMC Xtra HD (741 in Johns Creek) shows "subscription required" even though I have the standard def channel. Guess I'll have to call them about that.

CeliaD

08-17-09, 06:51 PM

Does anybody knows why the Tivo guide is blank for HD Fox News (837)?

We live in East Cobb.

Thank you.

ChazzMatt

08-18-09, 02:23 AM

The new HD channels just showed up in Acworth/Kennesaw area -- one week after the analog channels dropped. Just showed up sometime between 12 midnight and 2 a.m.

They weren't there when I started watching a DVD, now they are there!

LeRoyK

08-18-09, 06:58 AM

Confirmed, new HD channels in the Town Lake area, near Woodstock.

I wish Turner Classic Movies HD was among them, but it is not.

I did not see MGM HD, but it was a quick scan and I did not know where to look.

wlbandy

08-18-09, 08:04 AM

Channel 894

CeliaD

08-18-09, 02:14 PM

Right after I posted I found Greg613 instructions for Tivo and I followed them. Now we have listing for all those new channels.

Thank you Greg613.

Bodyslide

08-18-09, 06:08 PM

We got a bunch of new HD channels today. A few new Premium HD channels in the 700 range....

ChazzMatt

08-18-09, 06:11 PM

We got a bunch of new HD channels today. A few new Premium HD channels in the 700 range....

Yep, a week after the analogs dropped -- just like I noted above at 2 a.m. today. That seems to be the pattern now with Comcast -- analogs disappear and a week later the HD channels show up.;)

Initially all the HD channels were not actually available, even though I could see them in the program guide. Even some HD channels that had already been there. For instance, Discovery HD and AMC HD -- which were already there since last year -- suddenly could not be accessed. Message said, "Channel will appear momentarily" or something like that. Never did while I was sitting there. So, I went to bed and 12 noon, all the HD channels -- new and old -- were now accessible.

wlbandy

08-18-09, 07:52 PM

I wish Turner Classic Movies HD was among them, but it is not.

Try channels 740 & 741, that is the location of TCM on my HD Channels.

ChrisHman

08-18-09, 10:27 PM

Try channels 740 & 741, that is the location of TCM on my HD Channels.

Unfortunately those are TMC, the movie channel.

wlbandy

08-18-09, 11:00 PM

Sorry about that.

whodean

08-19-09, 12:03 PM

What locations are getting the new HD channels at this time?

McClellan

08-19-09, 04:44 PM

Does anyone have the latest updates on what cable providers in the Atlanta, GA area are offering, specifically the Dunwoody area (comcast)?

Do they offer movies in 1080p?

wlbandy

08-19-09, 06:10 PM

What locations are getting the new HD channels at this time?

West Cobb, East Cobb, and Woodstock Area.

ChazzMatt

08-19-09, 06:21 PM

What locations are getting the new HD channels at this time?

West Cobb, East Cobb, and Woodstock Area.

More than that! John's Creek in NE Atlanta -- Fulton County, not in Cobb County or Cherokee County -- kicked off this whole upgrade. And there's probably other areas of Atlanta metro area too. John's Creek got theirs back in the beginning of May (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16404357#post16404357). Cobb is getting it in July and August.

Nathan_R

08-19-09, 08:23 PM

It would appear that HBO Zone HD and HBO Latino HD are backwards in my Tivo guide. Is there anything I can do about that or does Tivo eventually work these things out on their end?

i r stoopid. Don't know how I missed those two posts. Oops.

ChrisC47

08-19-09, 11:00 PM

Scroll back two days.

MKK

08-20-09, 08:03 AM

Tiyuri

08-20-09, 09:10 AM

I live in town and hope this never happens here (yes, I know it eventually will). To me the trade offs are not worth it. I have 5 TVs and 2 HD Home Runs all feeding into a Windows Home Server box. Every TV has a PC or an extender hooked up to it and they can all watch anything recorded. It is a tremendous setup. When they get rid of my expanded basic QAM channels it will be practically worthless (no ESPN, etc). DTA's are not a solution since they need to be individually tuned. I understand why Comcast is doing this as it gives them more money and more control and since they are a legal monopoly there is not much we can do. With all of the cheering for more HD channels I thought the contrarian view of what Comcast is doing needed to be said.

Once this happens I will cancel Comcast (I pay for expanded basic). I don't use them for Internet now and between Hulu, ESPN360, MLB.tv, torrents and a strategically placed SlingBox my TV and sports needs are covered just as well. Yes it won't be as convenient but Comcast won't be able to reproduce my current setup at any price and I am not going to pay more for a warmed over solution with more boxes.

ChrisHman

08-20-09, 09:32 AM

TiVoFool

08-20-09, 01:17 PM

Does anyone know where Fayette County is in the upgrade schedule?

illestdomer2005

08-20-09, 01:47 PM

illestdomer2005

08-20-09, 01:51 PM

Internet went out yesterday *surprise, surprise* so I gave ole Comcast a call. Fortunately, the technician was helpful, and we talked about my setup and what I had done to troubleshoot. It was back up in less than 10 minutes or so.

So, who cares, right? Well, I took the opportunity to talk to the people in the TV department, and I FINALLY got the info on the switch to digital plus more HD channels. October 15 is the "migration schedule" for North DeKalb county (where I live). I saw in Vintage a week or so ago that they were losing channels September 15 and hoped that would be the same for me, but it looks like we just have a little less than 2 months to wait.

She also confirmed, as ChazzMatt has said, that the new HD channels would be available in short order.

wside

08-20-09, 08:16 PM

As of today the new HD channels are showing up in my tivo with program data but I don't have the actual video yet. I haven't heard a peep about digital adapters from Comcast. I live off of Moore's Mill west of 75. Any ideas when I can expect to see the video?

McDonoughDawg

08-20-09, 09:46 PM

To everyone who thinks that OnDemand is grand,

I am happy for you. In reality, it is very limited and PALES in comparison to what DirecTV offers in the way of many more HD channels (for those of us who haven't yet experienced the switchover). Mad Men Seasons 1 and 2? Awesome...I can also record those on my DVR...or fire up EZTV... If I didn't want continuous programming, I wouldn't even have TV, I'd just download the specific things I wanted to watch. But my mission is not to convince YOU that OnDemand is crap...I'm just expressing that, for me, it is a very weak answer to the HD offerings of DirecTV.

Oh, and before someone mentions what they think is the obvious...I would have DirecTV if I had a clear view to aim a satellite in the proper direction...

I'll tell my neighbor how great his direct TV is the next time his signal goes out during a thunderstorm.

That said, I'm not sure your post even belongs here. This doesn't seem the place for it.

ChazzMatt

08-21-09, 12:50 AM

I know the FAQ has been posted over and over stating QAM will go away, but I still am interested to see where we are 6 months from now. I havent found indications of comcast turning off QAM in other markets so far. But time will tell.

They may wait until the upgrade is completely finished in all markets? And when they do, they can point back at the warning letters and FAQ and say "We told you so. You just didn't pay attention." :p

From a business standpoint, I actually can't see why they would not turn off clear QAM (except for the OTA local stations). Too many people are getting free cable -- or at least free upgrades -- courtesy digital TVs with clear QAM. So, why would they let that continue? (DISCLOSURE: I once got free extended basic cable for a year when I lived in an apartment. And I enjoyed it.) Yeah, Comcast's prices should be lower. But turning off the clear QAM lets them have control of their product.

Satellite or telephone companies are not a worry for them on this issue. Do you get clear QAM of non-local channels on satellite? Do you get clear QAM of non-local channels on UVerse? NO.

So, they won't lose any customers to the competition.

However, if it's somehow a disaster for them, they can always re-arrange their tiers to give more channels for less money and still look good, compared to satellite and telephone companies.

Also, just because people have computers with video card tuners and such, it's not Comcast's problem that technology will no longer work. Google and others face the same issues. There's always 3rd party products that flood a market to take advantage of technical situations -- like people who turn their 7GB gmail accounts into an online file server. (http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/01/how-to-use-your-gmail-account-as-a-personal-file-server/) But it's not Google's problem if they do an update and the gmail hack you have to turn your account into online storage no longer works and corrupts all your files. :eek: Their purpose is to provide an email account only. Comcast's purpose is to provide TV viewing for the price they charge. Routing to multiple TVs, computers, over home networks is all fine and exciting -- but it's not Comcast's concern if changes they implement "brick" that. All that was not supported and endorsed by them anyway.

Comcast has never done me any harm -- unlike BellSouth (now AT&T), whom I hate fiercely. Comcast actually helped me escape from BellSouth, for which I am thankful.

Sure, I wish my internet + HD cable bill + DVR was under $100, but other than that I really can't complain.

I am thankful I finally got the extra HD channels! But, they should have been here a year ago.

But what I am saying is that if/when they turn off clear QAM, they are not doing anything unethical. They are taking away a freebie, but it was a freebie they never promised and which competitors do not provide.

84lion

08-21-09, 03:46 PM

I'll tell my neighbor how great his direct TV is the next time his signal goes out during a thunderstorm.

I remember when I had DirecTV (mainly for college football package, and yeah, I kept Comcast too). Got NFL Sunday Ticket free for 1 season as a promotion. First NFL weekend I tuned to a channel to watch an out-of-market game and got a black screen and no signal. There was no rain, nothing more than a small black cloud between my dish and the satellite location in the sky.
I think satellite is great and I'm a big fan of it. But for most families cable TV is a better alternative.

illestdomer2005

08-21-09, 06:49 PM

I'll tell my neighbor how great his direct TV is the next time his signal goes out during a thunderstorm.

That said, I'm not sure your post even belongs here. This doesn't seem the place for it.

It was in response to a post earlier, dawg. And I don't think you have to tell you neighbor how great his DirecTV is...I'm sure he knows that already ;)

NOW, after Comcast finally gives us access to the same HD content DirecTV customers have had for well over a year, almost 2 years, I will prefer cable over satellite. So far, cable has been a last resort since we don't all have the luxury of "a clear view of the southern sky."

But yes, my reception is usually fine even during thunderstorms except that it took a whole team of Comcast technicians to FINALLY get NFL Network HD to come through on my box.

illestdomer2005

08-21-09, 06:52 PM

They may wait until the upgrade is completely finished in all markets? And when they do, they can point back at the warning letters and FAQ and say "We told you so. You just didn't pay attention." :p

From a business standpoint, I actually can't see why they would not turn off clear QAM (except for the OTA local stations). Too many people are getting free cable -- or at least free upgrades -- courtesy digital TVs with clear QAM. So, why would they let that continue? (DISCLOSURE: I once got free extended basic cable for a year when I lived in an apartment. And I enjoyed it.) Yeah, Comcast's prices should be lower. But turning off the clear QAM lets them have control of their product.

Satellite or telephone companies are not a worry for them on this issue. Do you get clear QAM of non-local channels on satellite? Do you get clear QAM of non-local channels on UVerse? NO.

So, they won't lose any customers to the competition.

However, if it's somehow a disaster for them, they can always re-arrange their tiers to give more channels for less money and still look good, compared to satellite and telephone companies.

Also, just because people have computers with video card tuners and such, it's not Comcast's problem that technology will no longer work. Google and others face the same issues. There's always 3rd party products that flood a market to take advantage of technical situations -- like people who turn their 7GB gmail accounts into an online file server. (http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/01/how-to-use-your-gmail-account-as-a-personal-file-server/) But it's not Google's problem if they do an update and the gmail hack you have to turn your account into online storage no longer works and corrupts all your files. :eek: Their purpose is to provide an email account only. Comcast's purpose is to provide TV viewing for the price they charge. Routing to multiple TVs, computers, over home networks is all fine and exciting -- but it's not Comcast's concern if changes they implement "brick" that. All that was not supported and endorsed by them anyway.

Comcast has never done me any harm -- unlike BellSouth (now AT&T), whom I hate fiercely. Comcast actually helped me escape from BellSouth, for which I am thankful.

Sure, I wish my internet + HD cable bill + DVR was under $100, but other than that I really can't complain.

I am thankful I finally got the extra HD channels! But, they should have been here a year ago.

But what I am saying is that if/when they turn off clear QAM, they are not doing anything unethical. They are taking away a freebie, but it was a freebie they never promised and which competitors do not provide.

I agree, Matt. I used to use the VLC recording solution as a way of archiving the HD programming on my DVR. It was hit or miss, but I didn't expect Comcast to help me out there. I was also able to bypass a second HD box on my other HDTV by using the built-in tuner to pick up the Clear-QAM channels. They seemed to change frequently, but I didn't complain to Comcast because...if I wanted those HD channels, all I had to do was rent a box for it every month.

Adding the new HD channels FAR outweighs any of the other intended or unintended consequences of the changeover.

neil0311

08-21-09, 08:16 PM

To everyone who thinks that OnDemand is grand,

I am happy for you. In reality, it is very limited and PALES in comparison to what DirecTV offers in the way of many more HD channels (for those of us who haven't yet experienced the switchover). Mad Men Seasons 1 and 2? Awesome...I can also record those on my DVR...or fire up EZTV... If I didn't want continuous programming, I wouldn't even have TV, I'd just download the specific things I wanted to watch. But my mission is not to convince YOU that OnDemand is crap...I'm just expressing that, for me, it is a very weak answer to the HD offerings of DirecTV.

Oh, and before someone mentions what they think is the obvious...I would have DirecTV if I had a clear view to aim a satellite in the proper direction...

Sorry, but you are way off. The current HD offering from Comcast in Cobb County is EXACTLY the same as what DirecTV offers. Check the lineups.

As for OnDemand, we find it to be a HUGE benefit. I can watch series without having to waste DVR space, and the whole family can pick programs and movies to watch whenever we want. We love it.

You prefer DirecTV, fine, but at least get the facts straight.

McDonoughDawg

08-21-09, 08:16 PM

It was in response to a post earlier, dawg. And I don't think you have to tell you neighbor how great his DirecTV is...I'm sure he knows that already ;)

NOW, after Comcast finally gives us access to the same HD content DirecTV customers have had for well over a year, almost 2 years, I will prefer cable over satellite. So far, cable has been a last resort since we don't all have the luxury of "a clear view of the southern sky."

But yes, my reception is usually fine even during thunderstorms except that it took a whole team of Comcast technicians to FINALLY get NFL Network HD to come through on my box.

Obviously, we disagree on the superiority of one over the other. They both have strong points, IYAM.

nickodemis99

08-21-09, 09:06 PM

Anybody having problems with FOX and NBC? The HD channels are broadcasting in SD only.

illestdomer2005

08-22-09, 09:53 AM

Sorry, but you are way off. The current HD offering from Comcast in Cobb County is EXACTLY the same as what DirecTV offers. Check the lineups.

As for OnDemand, we find it to be a HUGE benefit. I can watch series without having to waste DVR space, and the whole family can pick programs and movies to watch whenever we want. We love it.

You prefer DirecTV, fine, but at least get the facts straight.

In reality, it is very limited and PALES in comparison to what DirecTV offers in the way of many more HD channels (for those of us who haven't yet experienced the switchover). (emphasis added)

That's what I said. You will see that I later said that once we get all of the new HD channels, Comcast will be superior to DirecTV. And just like dawg, if you enjoy OnDemand so much, that is great for you! I have used it on occasion too...like last night we watched "Army of Darkness." That said, IMO the HD lineup far outweighs whatever is available OnDemand since I think we still have to agree that regardless of OnDemand's relative worth, the selection is exaggerated by Comcast.

Unfortunately, not all of us in the ATL area are as lucky as you Cobb'ers ;) It sounds like I will start getting the new HD channels in mid-October.

Java

08-22-09, 12:22 PM

I was told by a regional Comcast Exec that the former Adelphia customers (purchased by Comcast some 2 plus years ago) that are using the SA STB are going to be late in the year possibly early 2010 due to "technical" difficulties at the head end. :mad:

Goodbye Comcast

MKK, who did you talk with and how (did you escalate until you got to him/her?).

I'm in Canton (also on old Adelphia network) and am thinking of dumping Dish for Comcast (for additional outlets, Tivo support, etc), but the lack of HD channels is a big problem. 2010 until expanded HD lineup? Also, what is the quality of you current HD channels?

Thanks

Braviageek

08-23-09, 11:41 AM

AtlantisMichael

08-23-09, 03:04 PM

Woodstock now has the HD channels and the digital tv without a box or card is getting a pretty good number of clear QAM channels. Have not had a chance to sort out what is what yet though. But nice to know for now that the digital tv is not in need of a box.
Michael

AUS1969

08-24-09, 12:00 AM

In 30084 (Tucker) my Tivo guide has the new channels - but no signal. Which reminds me - didn't I read that Comcast had a contract with HDNet Movies? Done anybody have HDNet movies?

MKK

08-24-09, 10:07 AM

MKK, who did you talk with and how (did you escalate until you got to him/her?).

I'm in Canton (also on old Adelphia network) and am thinking of dumping Dish for Comcast (for additional outlets, Tivo support, etc), but the lack of HD channels is a big problem. 2010 until expanded HD lineup? Also, what is the quality of you current HD channels?

Thanks
I went to the corporate website and looked for their regional offices (there is one in Atlanta). I called around until I got to the right person (I am in sales) and she told me that they are testing now a new technology that will prevent them from have to change out all of the SA STB's to Moto's. They will take the least costly path at the expense of customer sat and keep working on a "technology" fix no matter how long it takes.

MKK

08-24-09, 10:10 AM

84lion

08-24-09, 04:43 PM

The reason I am moving to Direct is for quality of HD signal. Go here: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us to see the resolution of all the channels that Comcast offers.

I must be missing something. That link provides resolution (e.g. - 1920 X 1080i) but aren't the HD resolutions listed there the same as OTA? To me the real question is bitrate, does Comcast or Direct have a higher bitrate which would theoretically result in a better picture?

Perhaps I could tell a difference on a 50-plus inch plasma display. On our 37-inch LCD, the Comcast HD via our Tivo looks excellent. Personally I would rather have the features and convenience of the Tivo and no rain fade. To each his own, I guess.

riversidedawg

08-24-09, 05:46 PM

AtlantaDave

08-24-09, 07:56 PM

HN #835, TCM #869 and ESPNU #883 were all added this afternoon in HD, however they are all not authorized. I called Comcast and unplugged the box and he reset, but still not authorized. I have the sports tier, etc. Any suggestions?:mad:

The same ones just appeared here in Johns Creek - plus #858 True TV HD.

I get the same message. They are probably not available for anyone yet. This happened before when channels were added.

Two thumbs up for TCM HD!!!!!!!!

commodore_dude

08-24-09, 07:58 PM

Oh man, ESPNU HD... I may have to bite the bullet and pay the Dish ETF :(. They need to bring back Ditch the Dish! Also, my parents in Norcross were able to order DTAs last week, looks like October for that area...

titans4ever

08-24-09, 08:11 PM

My inlaws were switched over and began receiving the new HD channels in late July. They live in the 30342 zip code off Windsor Parkway, on the very south end of Sandy Springs. I live about two miles away, also 30342 zip code but city of Atlanta, and haven't heard a word about when I'll be switched.
On comcast.com, If you enter your Atlanta zipcode and choose Atlanta it list all of the new channels but if you choose Atlanta (city) it has the current lineup. Maybe, the city of Atlanta will be the last to get the HD

ChazzMatt

08-25-09, 12:47 AM

:pThe reason I am moving to Direct is for quality of HD signal. Go here:http://http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us to see the resolution of all the channels that Comcast offers.

You are sorely misinformed. DirecTV's HD signal is known to be so crappy they were sued in class action lawsuit for promising HD but only giving "HD Lite". Their bitrate was the same as regular SD TV, but just pumped up to HD size.

http://w.engadgethd.com/2006/09/20/directv-gets-whats-comin-to-them/

http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/bth/directv_hd_lite_20060925/

Peter Cohen, a subscriber to DirecTV’s HD satellite service, has filed a class action lawsuit against the DTH provider for reducing the quality of its HDTV signal by lowering the bit rate.

When Cohen initially signed up for DirecTV’s HD package in 2003, the operator promised “astonishing picture quality.” Within a year, Cohen charged, DirecTV broke it promise by reducing the quality of its HD satellite channels.

Cohen’s lawsuit, drawing a wave of supporters from various Web sites, got its first public hearing last week when a judge ruled against DirecTV on its motion to compel arbitration in the case.

The complaint, apparently shared by other vocal DirecTV critics, has resulted in DirecTV’s service being tagged “HD Lite” because of the low bit rate the service uses to transmit HD channels.

“We believe the plaintiff’s underlying claims are completely without merit because DirecTV’s high-definition service is high quality, true HD service under accepted definitions for satellite TV,” DirecTV spokesman Robert Mercer told the Web site TVPredictions.com.

Subscribers have claimed that DirecTV highly compresses HD images to create more channel space. This compression, to save bandwidth, reduces image quality.

Since information about the lawsuit surfaced, TVPredictions.com has reported that it received approximately 100 negative e-mails from DirecTV subscribers, complaining that the service’s nine-channel national HD lineup fares poorly compared to rival EchoStar, which airs 30 national HD channels.

Earlier, DirecTV announced plans to change to MPEG-4 compression technology for HDTV. That change is expected to occur next year.

Maybe they are better now, that lawsuit was filed in 2006 -- but DirecTV is known for crappy HD quality.

in 2007 a judge forced them to remove their ads claiming they had better HD signals -- pointing out that was false advertising.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8614.cfm

ChazzMatt

08-25-09, 01:06 AM

HN #835, TCM #869 and ESPNU #883 were all added this afternoon in HD, however they are all not authorized. I called Comcast and unplugged the box and he reset, but still not authorized. I have the sports tier, etc. Any suggestions?:mad:

That "not authorized" also showed up last week the night all the HD channels appeared -- even for some channels I always watch. I went to bed and the next day all the new channels were accessible and the silly "not authorized" (for channels I get) never appeared again.

But thanks for the info on these 3 new channels. I just checked and I am also "not authorized"; I'm sure that will change. There aren't any HD channels that are blocked for people who get the SD equivalents. i.e. if you get 034 CNN SD, you get 834 CNN HD. So, if you get 035 CNN HLN SD, you will get the new 835 CNN HLN HD.

So, these channels are probably coming, but they aren't read to show them to the public yet?

LeRoyK

08-25-09, 07:27 AM

TCM HD (869) is showing in my guide too. But tuning it shows "Not Authorized" this morning.

With the authorization of the TCM HD, my household will have all of the networks we normally watch in HD. And a whole lot of others in HD that we don't watch at all.

Now a much larger DVR hard drive is appropriate Comcast.

Java

08-25-09, 08:09 AM

I went to the corporate website and looked for their regional offices (there is one in Atlanta). I called around until I got to the right person (I am in sales) and she told me that they are testing now a new technology that will prevent them from have to change out all of the SA STB's to Moto's. They will take the least costly path at the expense of customer sat and keep working on a "technology" fix no matter how long it takes.

Thanks, MKK. I was going to pop into the local office (headend by Cherokee High), but you probably got the better scope. Particularly if they admitted that their plan is to keep the SA STB's. My neighbors on Comcast say the SA STB is horrid. My plan was to use Tivo's on the main TV's and let the kids struggle with the SA STB until the Moto's come out (not that the Moto's are that great). Sounds like I might have a mutiny from the teenagers (Dish DVR -> SA STB).

Beyond needing many more outlets (8 receivers / 10+ tuners) than my current Dish setup will handle, my other reason for looking into Comcast was to use the video feed to fuel a whole house media server (record shows via PC and store on server). To my knowledge, that's not an option with Dish/DTV. Thoughts?

Thanks, again

Java

08-25-09, 08:21 AM

The reason I am moving to Direct is for quality of HD signal. Go here:http://http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us to see the resolution of all the channels that Comcast offers.

Wow. Great site!!

Beyond the screenshots, the resolution column tell the full story. The bulk of the channels are in 480i or 480p. So much for hi-def. Do you know if there is similar site/comparison for DBS (Dish/DTV)?

Last, are you exploring the HD HomeRun product (main product from the channel comparison website)? If I follow correct, it is only for over the air and clear QAM. Again, does anyone know of a similar set up for US DBS (I believe there are system for Europe DBS). Also, if I follow the "adapter transition" correct, clear QAM will likely be a thing of the past, so products like this have issues.

riversidedawg

08-25-09, 08:32 AM

saga will be over in the next day or two. I love TCM, also! With college football starting in ten days, ESPNU HD is what I was waiting for! :)

Java

08-25-09, 08:33 AM

I must be missing something. That link provides resolution (e.g. - 1920 X 1080i) but aren't the HD resolutions listed there the same as OTA? To me the real question is bitrate, does Comcast or Direct have a higher bitrate which would theoretically result in a better picture?

Perhaps I could tell a difference on a 50-plus inch plasma display. On our 37-inch LCD, the Comcast HD via our Tivo looks excellent. Personally I would rather have the features and convenience of the Tivo and no rain fade. To each his own, I guess.

On the resolution, at least in my area, even the cable channels (ESPN, USA, MTV) are showing as 480i/p. I agree on the bitrate, which was actually my initial interest, but if Comcast is using only 480 source material, what difference does it make on bitrate?

To your point though on bitrate, have you seen any good comparisons of Comcast -> Dish -> DTV?

Last, I agree on the Tivo. That's part of my personal motivation to exporing going from Dish to Comcast. I may explore DTV's tivo option.

As info, I don't have much rain fade problem. I did on at a previous home, but only a handful of complete outages so far...

riversidedawg

08-25-09, 08:40 AM

to pick up "NFL Red Zone" on 8/24...does anyone have any more knowledge about this?

ChazzMatt

08-25-09, 09:32 AM

Wow. Great site!!

Beyond the screenshots, the resolution column tell the full story. The bulk of the channels are in 480i or 480p. So much for hi-def. Do you know if there is similar site/comparison for DBS (Dish/DTV)?

What in the world are you talking about? :confused: It's a horribly outdated site, erroneous site. It doesn't even tell a partial story, much less a "full story". It doesn't list hardly any of the Comcast HD lineups. It's obviously a VERY outdated or incomplete listing.

Plus it seems to only be a partial clear QAM listing.

It's not meant to be used in any way to compare HD offerings.

As just an example they only list CNN in SD, they don't even show that CNN is offered in HD. I could give you 50 more examples Either their information is like 3 years old or they are idiots. You cannnot trust that site at all.

Looking at their "grid" view, they only list Comcast as having 10 channels in the 800 tier. This site loses big time.

ChazzMatt

08-25-09, 09:46 AM

The reason I am moving to Direct is for quality of HD signal. Go here:http://http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us to see the resolution of all the channels that Comcast offers.

But this does NOT NOT NOT show the resolution of the channels Comcast offers.

When you find such a thing, then show us. This site is crap.

It only lists 10 of the 800 tier channels. Where are the rest? The site is outdated, gives completely wrong information.

slowbiscuit

08-25-09, 12:26 PM

Maybe they are better now, that lawsuit was filed in 2006 -- but DirecTV is known for crappy HD quality.

in 2007 a judge forced them to remove their ads claiming they had better HD signals -- pointing out that was false advertising.

They resolved this problem with the launch of the MPEG-4 satellites, along with the updated receivers. Few on the main HDTV programming forum are complaining about D* HD quality now.

For anyone who doesn't think Comcast will eventually encrypt the expanded basic channels, take a look at this (http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=180850&site=cdn). The FCC just approved a separable security waiver for the Pace DTAs that they're using here, which means that Comcast can turn on privacy mode (and turn off clear QAM) for those at anytime.

84lion

08-25-09, 03:04 PM

For anyone who doesn't think Comcast will eventually encrypt the expanded basic channels, take a look at this (http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=180850&site=cdn). The FCC just approved a separable security waiver for the Pace DTAs that they're using here, which means that Comcast can turn on privacy mode (and turn off clear QAM) for those at anytime.

Not good. According to a link from that website, CEA -may- request a re-review, as they believe this will significantly impact development and adoption of tru2way and cablecard.

Public Knowledge also argued that the DTAs could be transformed into "more advanced devices" via software download, which FCC rejected based on such activity turning the DTAs into "different devices." It'll be interesting to see if turning on "security mode" makes the DTAs "different devices."

I expect Comcast to begin treating the DTAs same as rental boxes and to begin assessing fees even for the first two (which are now free of charge). Comcast will likely eventually start getting the DTAs back in droves when people are forced to pay $1.99 per month for each non-HD "dumb tuner."

ChazzMatt

08-25-09, 04:32 PM

Comcast will likely eventually start getting the DTAs back in droves when people are forced to pay $1.99 per month for each non-HD "dumb tuner."

But what would be the alternative? $1.99 per month for DTA beats rental cost for full set top box, no?

Without at least DTA, you will get nothing (when Comcast turns off clear QAM).

neil0311

08-25-09, 06:56 PM

A few more HD channels showed up here in Cobb today. All working fne.

704 - HBO Signature HD
705 - HBO Zone HD
707 - HBO Family HD
721 - More Max HD
722 - Action Max HD
727 - 5 Star Max HD

858 - TruTV HD
869 - Turner Classic Movies HD
883 - ESPNU HD

neil0311

08-25-09, 07:02 PM

I expect Comcast to begin treating the DTAs same as rental boxes and to begin assessing fees even for the first two (which are now free of charge). Comcast will likely eventually start getting the DTAs back in droves when people are forced to pay $1.99 per month for each non-HD "dumb tuner."

Maybe, and maybe not. We know that for at least the first year the first 2 DTAs are free. After that, who knows. Let's say you're right and they charge $1.99/mo each. That's still only $23.88/year. A satellite box costs at least that and if it breaks or the satellite provider changes standards, you're on the hook.

I just really can't understand people complaining about $24/year. If you're that tight for money, then you probably shouldn't be paying for cable TV anyway. Some people will complain and moan about anything....$24/year....come on. OTA is free.

fuzzy bee

08-26-09, 08:28 AM

fuzzy bee

08-26-09, 08:30 AM

fuzzy bee

08-26-09, 08:32 AM

Java

08-26-09, 09:01 AM

What in the world are you talking about? :confused: It's a horribly outdated site, erroneous site. It doesn't even tell a partial story, much less a "full story". It doesn't list hardly any of the Comcast HD lineups. It's obviously a VERY outdated or incomplete listing.

Plus it seems to only be a partial clear QAM listing.

It's not meant to be used in any way to compare HD offerings.

As just an example they only list CNN in SD, they don't even show that CNN is offered in HD. I could give you 50 more examples Either their information is like 3 years old or they are idiots. You cannnot trust that site at all.

Looking at their "grid" view, they only list Comcast as having 10 channels in the 800 tier. This site loses big time.

I'm not defending this site, but do you know of another local comparison site? My original question was local Comcast HD quality vs DBS. This site doesn't answer the DBS side, but it does paint a negative picture (pun not intended) for Comcast in my area.

As far as outdated, I can't speak to the resolution values, but the screen shots in my area are fresh. Scanning the news shots, I see topics from the last few weeks. Since this is location specific, your mileage may vary...

As far as the listing all the line ups, for my area, the chart shows more than the "program listing" from Comcast. Did you notice the drop down in the upper left? At least in my view, it has two Comcast listings. One with 49 and one with 103 listings. I realize these are not all the HD channels, but scanning the list, I see the bulk of the 45 HD channels from Comcast list.

As far as the resolutions, are there any other sources? In my case, our area is an old neglected Adelphia area and I am interested if they have upgraded the network to be an acceptable alternative to Dish in PQ and channel line up. Currently channel line is way behind and doesn't look like they will catch up (at least advance) until 2010. PQ is a big question mark. Theoretically Comcast should have more bandwidth and hence not degrade the signal as much as DBS. With the ancient Adelphia system, I doubt it...

fuzzy bee

08-26-09, 11:19 AM

I'm not defending this site, but do you know of another local comparison site? My original question was local Comcast HD quality vs DBS. This site doesn't answer the DBS side, but it does paint a negative picture (pun not intended) for Comcast in my area.

As far as outdated, I can't speak to the resolution values, but the screen shots in my area are fresh. Scanning the news shots, I see topics from the last few weeks. Since this is location specific, your mileage may vary...

As far as the listing all the line ups, for my area, the chart shows more than the "program listing" from Comcast. Did you notice the drop down in the upper left? At least in my view, it has two Comcast listings. One with 49 and one with 103 listings. I realize these are not all the HD channels, but scanning the list, I see the bulk of the 45 HD channels from Comcast list.

As far as the resolutions, are there any other sources? In my case, our area is an old neglected Adelphia area and I am interested if they have upgraded the network to be an acceptable alternative to Dish in PQ and channel line up. Currently channel line is way behind and doesn't look like they will catch up (at least advance) until 2010. PQ is a big question mark. Theoretically Comcast should have more bandwidth and hence not degrade the signal as much as DBS. With the ancient Adelphia system, I doubt it...

The SiliconDust site only lists ClearQAM channels, because that's all that the HDHomeRun can receive. Things you see like ESPN are the SD versions that are currently available in ClearQAM.

ChazzMatt

08-26-09, 05:04 PM

These are only the ClearQAM channels.

and the person who posted it CLAIMED it show HD channel comparisons to DirecTV. It doesn't even show 1/10 of the Comcast HD channels -thus my criticism. It gave one reader here the impression Comcast was only claiming HD but was really SD.

So, HomeRun can't tune in CNN HD? Because CNN HD is not even listed, nor are like 70 other HD channels. ESPN HD, etc. That's why it's a worthless site for comparing bit rate and resolution. You are ONLY looking at SD content, except for the OTA channels.

fuzzy bee

08-26-09, 05:09 PM

and the person who posted it CLAIMED it show HD channel comparisons to DirecTV. It doesn't even show 1/10 of the Comcast HD channels -- and it does not even show those accurately. Those screen shots are from YEARS ago. Thus my intense criticism. It's a worthless, outdated site.

How are the screen shots from YEARS ago? They aren't even dated? IIRC< SiliconDust pulls screenshots about every week.

It's not meant to be a comparison to DirecTV. It's meant to be a tool used by people who have or who are looking to purchase a HDHomeRun, to see what channels they can pick up.

ChazzMatt

08-26-09, 05:12 PM

Please don't spout off if you don't know what you're talking about. Silicon Dust, sells a ClearQAM network tuner. They don't care what is offered that's not ClearQAM, because their device can;t tune it.

The site doesn't play into any DirecTV / Comcast resolution issue, and shouldn't have been used as a comparison here, but they're neither "idiots" nor do they have "3 yeard old" information. No need for the histrionics.

I do know what I am talking about. :) I work in TV on-air operations. The person who posted it said they were going to DirecTV based on the SD resolutions they saw posted there -- thinking that was Comcast's HD offerering. Another person said "it gave the total picture" of the situation. It doesn't.

I was refuting all that misinformation. That's why I said it was a worthless site (for this discussion). Whoever posted it had no idea what they were talking about.

ChazzMatt

08-26-09, 05:32 PM

I
As far as the listing all the line ups, for my area, the chart shows more than the "program listing" from Comcast. Did you notice the drop down in the upper left? At least in my view, it has two Comcast listings. One with 49 and one with 103 listings. I realize these are not all the HD channels, but scanning the list, I see the bulk of the 45 HD channels from Comcast list.

I saw the drop down menu. Did you see where you can show the grid listing? In the grid listing of the 100 channels, only 8 or 9 are in the 800 tier. That means the remainder of the clear QAM listings are SD.

Therefore, this site shows NOTHING of Comcast's HD quality, except for the OTA stations. You are seeing Comcast's SD quality.

here, go look at this grid:
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:30144#sidebyside

Tell me how many 800 tier channels you see? Out of 101 channels -- which is a fraction of Comcast's channel line-up, these are the only HD channels listed:

qam256 803 WSBDT
qam256 804 WAGADT
qam256 806 WXIADT
qam256 807 WPCHDT
qam256 809 WGCLDT
qam256 810 WUPADT
qam256 812 WPXADT
qam256 813 WATLDT
qam256 816 WPBADT

====
Plus these are low-res screen shots, 45kb.

whodean

08-26-09, 05:41 PM

I work in TV on-air operations.

Let me guess....for Comcast?

ChazzMatt

08-26-09, 06:02 PM

Let me guess....for Comcast?

of course not. I worked for two local TV stations in VA for 14 years -- ABC and NBC affiliates. Here in Atlanta, I've worked for a major cable network for 12 years. I don't speak for my employer so I am not going to give their name.

I know Comcast compresses channels. If you want the best bit rate from OTA HD, then use an antenna. However, I rarely watch the broadcast networks. I watch History channel, syfy (I hate the new spelling!), CNN, Food Network -- all in HD and none of which are even listed on that site -- at least the HD versions are not.

I was just commenting because of the misinformation being given as if this site showed Comcast's bit rate, resolution for all their HD offerings. It does not. It does not even list 1/10 of the HD offerings I see in my Comcast guide.

The reason I am moving to Direct is for quality of HD signal.
Go here:http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us to see the resolution of all the channels that Comcast offers.

Not true.

Wow. Great site!!

Beyond the screenshots, the resolution column tell the full story. The bulk of the channels are in 480i or 480p. So much for hi-def. Do you know if there is similar site/comparison for DBS (Dish/DTV)?

Totally misleading, misinformed statements that could not stand uncorrected. Sorry for the "histronics".

This is not the resolution of all the channels Comcast offers, it's only the resolution of the SD channels with a few
For those who have Homerun and want to see what they can record off Comcaset, fine -- this site might have some value.

But it has no value for looking at Comcast's HD offerings nor comparing Comcast to other HD providers like DirecTV or U-Verse.

LeRoyK

08-26-09, 07:04 PM

TCM HD is coming through loud and clear now here in Woodstock.

I sampled two movies, both were original aspect, one filled the width of the screen, the other was letterboxed in the 4:3 portion of the screen. I guess not all of their content is suitable for HD broadcast. But no complaints here, even the letterboxed version was much better than the overcompressed 480i version Comcast sends out.

84lion

08-26-09, 07:23 PM

But what would be the alternative? $1.99 per month for DTA beats rental cost for full set top box, no?

Without at least DTA, you will get nothing (when Comcast turns off clear QAM).

...except the OTA channels, which this ruling should not apply to. Considering the DTAs *don't* do HD, I don't see how they can encrypt the HD OTA channels.

If CC decides to start charging for DTAs, I intend to return one DTA right away as we currently are not using it. The other DTA I would probably return after making some changes to our home video distribution system. Maybe I just hit them at the right time, but whenever I go to the Comcast office on Cobb Parkway there are a lot of folks returning equipment. It happens.

I just really can't understand people complaining about $24/year. If you're that tight for money, then you probably shouldn't be paying for cable TV anyway. Some people will complain and moan about anything....$24/year....come on.

I can’t understand that people are so cavalier about cost increases. Granted, two bucks a month isn’t going to break the bank, but if other elements of the cable bill or other monthly bills increase similarly I might have to start making choices. It must be nice to be so wealthy that one can pass off minor increases as nothing. Even Warren Buffett is pretty frugal, so I hear, yet he’s quite wealthy. It’s hard to argue with success.

There is also the issue of principle. The general attitude I’ve seen on this board is that people seem to think if you don’t like it, leave. I would like to but I have nowhere to leave to. Comcast is a monopoly. I don’t have access to AT&T U-Verse. Satellite is an option but for TV only. I admit that Comcast presently provides the best value for us, but they are certainly not perfect.

The situation with the DTAs reminds me of the situation with telephones and the phone company. I remember a time when you had to rent a telephone monthly. When it became permissible to buy and use your own equipment and hook it up to the phone lines, people could own their equipment and avoid the monthly phone rental charge. Given the low price of basic phones (which worked just fine, thank you), folks could often recover their phone rental fees in under a year. (Eventually, the phones got more sophisticated and integrated answering machines, cordless phones, and other improvements became the norm. On a similar note, the DTAs are said to cost in the $30 range, meaning that if you could buy your DTA you could have the $2 per month rental cost recovered in about 18 months.) The current cable box situation is essentially the reverse, as we are now being told that “signal security” is paramount and therefore justifies proprietary boxes. I’m sure the phone company could have done same in the day had they tried hard enough. They must be kicking themselves! With cable, we are going from a situation where you could buy any TV, VCR, DVD Recorder, etc. at competitive prices and use these products to the fullest, to a situation where your only option is the size and quality of the display hooked up to a proprietary box. Features and options are now controlled by the cable company, as is price. If you don’t like the interface or features, well, tough, because you have no choice. This is sold as “forward-thinking Progress.” Before anyone harps on satellite TV companies doing the same thing, I remind that there was a time when one bought their box (Hughes and Sony are two companies that come to mind) and owned it. Just because the satellite company has moved to proprietary boxes doesn’t make the situation right.

Somehow people tend to view the cable company monopoly different from the POTS monopoly. Some justify it by considering cable as “entertainment.” Aside from the fact that cable transmits news, weather information, and other “non-entertainment,” I could make the argument about POTS in that a lot of folks use the phone to just gab. I never recall anyone considering POTS “entertainment” and therefore somehow justified the phone company to raise prices as they felt like it. Funny that the overpriced POTS is now being challenged by outfits like Comcast, who enjoy less regulation and provide greater service at prices competitive to POTS.

I find it difficult to understand the apparent unquestioning support of Comcast by some posters here. We are all consumers and are therefore, theoretically, on the same side. We all want to see Comcast succeed, but at the same time would prefer not to be raked over the coals in the process (maybe some of the folks here like being raked over the coals, I dunno). I find it fascinating that some are so willing to embrace “progress” (e.g. – more HD channels) that they view less choice and higher prices as “good things” not to be questioned or, worse yet, fought. I may not be able to fight City Hall but I will do my best to oppose their tyranny, and intend to work around it as best I can. If I can deny CC two bucks to retaliate for crippling my clear QAM tuner I’ll do it.

neil0311

08-26-09, 09:20 PM

I can’t understand that people are so cavalier about cost increases. Granted, two bucks a month isn’t going to break the bank, but if other elements of the cable bill or other monthly bills increase similarly I might have to start making choices. It must be nice to be so wealthy that one can pass off minor increases as nothing. Even Warren Buffett is pretty frugal, so I hear, yet he’s quite wealthy. It’s hard to argue with success.

To me (and that's the only person I can speak for) the $24 bucks a year isn't worth the emotion and concern that some people show. That's pocket change and a few drinks on a Saturday night.

As I mentioned, buying a satellite box will cost you just as much and probably more. I can't understand how some people invest so much time worrying over such a small amount of money. If you factor the year for free, it's would be $24 for 2 years, and we don't even know for sure if Comcast will actually start charging after the first year. Nothing like concern over something that hasn't even been announced yet.

If $24 is going to break you over the course of a year, then you have way more problems than worrying about cable TV.

McDonoughDawg

08-26-09, 09:53 PM

What other system at this time offers free unlimited use of "extended basic" cable? Espn, CNN etc... I know Dish nor Direct does....maybe someone knows of a provider that does...if so, they should switch to them....

I don't think you'll EVER see Comcast turn off the local HD's on the QAM....I don't think any other provider offers even that, OTA works in most places, but still, it's a benefit, and would even be good enough for PIP on most major network sports...what else is PIP good for? :_

McDonoughDawg

08-26-09, 09:56 PM

koldapu

08-26-09, 10:15 PM

Still waiting on Decatur 30033 to get the new HD channels ... sigh. Would love for Comedy Central HD and NBATV HD to arrive ASAP, in addition to all the movie channels.

Emil Faber

08-27-09, 11:31 AM

Somehow people tend to view the cable company monopoly different from the POTS monopoly. Some justify it by considering cable as “entertainment.” Aside from the fact that cable transmits news, weather information, and other “non-entertainment,” I could make the argument about POTS in that a lot of folks use the phone to just gab. I never recall anyone considering POTS “entertainment” and therefore somehow justified the phone company to raise prices as they felt like it. Funny that the overpriced POTS is now being challenged by outfits like Comcast, who enjoy less regulation and provide greater service at prices competitive to POTS.

Bingo!

And the phone companies innovated and developed new revenue streams (call waiting, caller ID, etc.) to replace the phone rental fees they lost. And you have a choice to use them and pay an additional per month charge, or not.

The set top boxes are a major profit center for any cable company, and lock you to the cable company. Innovation -NEVER- comes from a lock in.

Cheers,

jr

tanline

08-27-09, 01:23 PM

If $24 is going to break you over the course of a year, then you have way more problems than worrying about cable TV.

$24/year more for now... When I first signed up for Comcast w/HBO-Starz + Internet, the cost was no where near the $170/month it does now... I agree $24/year is not a lot of money - but it is an additional fee and does add up if you count all the rental/junk fees on my bill. If all the junk fees/rental fees, etc. were cut out - my bill would be about $30/month lighter.

pcgraffy

08-27-09, 02:30 PM

Has anyone heard how Comcast will be addressing the conflict of having both SS HD and FSN HD on channel 848? I assume another channel would have to be added.

The first conflict will be next Saturday at 7pm - there is a Braves game on SS and a football game on FS South HD.

riversidedawg

08-27-09, 02:47 PM

Since the Braves will probably be out of the wild card picture by next Saturday, they will probably be broadcast in SD :)

slowbiscuit

08-27-09, 05:18 PM

Maybe I'm missing something...which other service offers the extended cable channels without a box of some sort?

QAM is still running....and I seriously doubt Comcast will EVER shut down the HD locals...for those of us without antennas, that's an advantage right there...and yes, I use those for my PIP....
I hate boxes with a passion, but we're getting a lot in return (all the new HD channels) with the DTAs. So, it's a decent tradeoff to me, except for the lack of RF passthrough and one other thing -
If I want to get an HD STB (not DVR) to watch all those nice new HD channels on a secondary set, I'm looking at paying $13/mo extra ($6 outlet fee + $7 HD fee) for one box. And that's just ridiculous. Satellite charges, what, $5/mo.?
We need someone, anyone, to make tru2way STBs and DVRs that we can buy and stick a Cablecard in, just to give Comcast an incentive to quit stiffing us on HD box rentals.

pcgraffy

08-27-09, 06:54 PM

Heard today is that all SEC football games on CSS will officially be available in HD in Atlanta markets. SEC basketball on CSS TBD.

commodore_dude

08-27-09, 09:29 PM

Which means they'll only be able to use 801 for one of the SEC HD evening games... and they still need to do something to split FSN South and SportSouth HD...

ChrisC47

08-27-09, 10:58 PM

Heard today is that all SEC football games on CSS will officially be available in HD in Atlanta markets. SEC basketball on CSS TBD.

Yeah, it's going to be carried on WPCH. We've got some info about the specific games already right here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17051293#post17051293) in the Atlanta OTA thread.

Or maybe that's not what you talking about, because those are ESPN games.

McDonoughDawg

08-28-09, 09:06 AM

SEC will have games on CSS, Peachtree TV, Fox Sports, Espn suite of networks and CBS in the Atlanta area.

This doesn't include SEC road games in ABC territory, etc..ie UGA/OK ST on ABC Sept 5 15:30

AtlantisMichael

08-28-09, 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=84lion;17069539]
I can’t understand that people are so cavalier about cost increases. Granted, two bucks a month isn’t going to break the bank, but if other elements of the cable bill or other monthly bills increase similarly I might have to start making choices.
There is also the issue of principle. The general attitude I’ve seen on this board is that people seem to think if you don’t like it, leave. I would like to but I have nowhere to leave to. Comcast is a monopoly. I don’t have access to AT&T U-Verse. Satellite is an option but for TV only. I admit that Comcast presently provides the best value for us, but they are certainly not perfect.

People have their priorities and freedom to choose. If Comcast does do as you suggest, then there are other choices--OTA, Dish/Direct, DBS, internet, or just turn the tv off. Live without it. Comcast is not a true monopoly. And tv is not a necessity. You can live with out it.
It is funny to read how some people have 4,5 or more tvs and complain about having to pay extra for the dtas or stbs, yet if they can afford the tvs and the extra electricity to run them, then certianly the additional fee is nothing in the whole scheme. If it is, then get rid of the extra tvs. Oh, I almost forgot, you do not have to have all those extra dtas for the basice analog cable channels up to 29. But, it is all in what a person wants. So there is a cost for that.
Comcast is a business and such should be able to charge whatever the market is willing to pay. If they are too high, then vote with your feet and dollars. There are always choices.
To compare cable to the old phone companies is not the same. The reason we had a monopoly phone company was to eliminate all the extra wires ( same as the power companies and such). Phones were and are of a more necessity than cable ever will be. When phones first come to being, we did not have mass means of comunications, IE; Radio, tv, internet and such. Paper and mail were the only means. Phones made it possible to communicate instantly to summon help in an emergency. Phones are a necessity and tv is not. We have so many more means by which news can be delivered as this is the only thing that would come close to a necessity with tv. But even then, tv is not a necessity, just a dumb box for the masses.
Michael

illestdomer2005

08-28-09, 04:19 PM

On comcast.com, If you enter your Atlanta zipcode and choose Atlanta it list all of the new channels but if you choose Atlanta (city) it has the current lineup. Maybe, the city of Atlanta will be the last to get the HD

30329 here, and I was quoted October 15.

Tybee

08-28-09, 10:20 PM

30329 here, and I was quoted October 15.

I'm betting that's what it is for Decatur (30030) too, but holding out hope that we might get them in mid-September, as I've heard that date bandied about previously.

jon1964

08-29-09, 12:27 PM

I'm betting that's what it is for Decatur (30030) too, but holding out hope that we might get them in mid-September, as I've heard that date bandied about previously.

Mid September 2010 if we're lucky.

WorthlessGerman

08-29-09, 12:35 PM

My Tivo guide was updated sometime yesterday - I'm in 30030 and all of the "new" channels in the 700 range plus a few in the 500s were removed. Looks like somebody may have jumped the gun...

bamadawg4741

08-29-09, 01:54 PM

wside

08-29-09, 04:58 PM

My Tivo guide was updated sometime yesterday - I'm in 30030 and all of the "new" channels in the 700 range plus a few in the 500s were removed. Looks like somebody may have jumped the gun...

Same here in 30318. sux.

Joejeep

08-29-09, 07:56 PM

I talked to Comcast last week. 30032 here. Was quoted, are you ready for this, April. Decatur address here, but not city of.

cliffbig

08-29-09, 10:39 PM

We have the new channels (I also have a Comcast DVR in another room, so I am able to verify that they're still there and active), but they have all been removed from our Tivo HDXL listings today (they were there yesterday). Makes it tough to appreciate new features when Comcast sabotages the Tivo's ability to record them!

titans4ever

08-30-09, 05:14 PM

Anyone live in 30326? Are you seeing the new channel on your tivo?

slowbiscuit

08-30-09, 08:23 PM

Tybee

08-30-09, 09:01 PM

I talked to Comcast last week. 30032 here. Was quoted, are you ready for this, April. Decatur address here, but not city of.

Lord...This is one time when I'm glad the service reps don't know what they're talking about...At least, I hope they don't. :rolleyes:

If that timeline is accurate, I will call and raise Hell and at the very least get them to extend me some sort of promotion in the meantime. There's no excuse for having to wait almost a year longer for channels that have long been available elsewhere in the metro area.

Dragonfly47

08-31-09, 07:17 AM

Is anyone seeing picture breakups on CBS HD (WGCL 46)? I was watching the Falcons game Sat. night and saw random pixelation on the channel. Same when watching the golf coverage today, and I've noticed it before on live events. Seems like they got the audio dropouts fixed, now they have problems with the video. I don't see breakups like this on any of the other local HD channels on Comcast.

Same here (Stone Mountain head end). I have occasional freezing/breakup on some of the other channels, but WGCL is the main culprit. Makes golf totally unwatchable. My neighbor has the same problem and we surmised it was a faulty amp in our neighborhood, but perhaps it's more system-wide?

EmilyK

08-31-09, 07:55 AM

I have contacted Comcast and read forums. I have the new line up showing on my TIVO channel guide, however the new channels are blank when you click on them. I have restarted and re-pinged everything possible. What can I do to get these new channels to come in....short of a technician visiting?

I'm having the same problem. I had the new channels for about a week before I got a message from Tivo saying that they were all deleted. I can still tune to them, but my favorite show "To Be Announced" is all that's playing.

It looks like the problem might be with the channel names. Looking in the channel list, here's what I see:

859 - HGTVD
HGTV HD (HGHD)

For that channel, the guide data is present. But for Travel, here's what the channel list shows:

860 - TRAVHD 860 TRAVEL CHANNEL HD
TRAVHD 860 TRAVEL CHANNEL HD

No guide data. The other new channels are like this, too--like someone got a little name happy.

Is this a Comcast issue or a Tivo issue? Bamadawg, did you get anywhere when you called Comcast?

brermike

08-31-09, 10:04 AM

Not sure if this is helpful with the Tivo/Comcast new HD channel issues, but I also had an issue when I first go the channels here in Johns Creek a few months ago.

I could tune to any of the new channels but they weren't showing up in my guide. I called Tivo and they told me to change my lineup from Comcast to Comcast - World of More (or something like that). When I did that, I finally got guide information on the new HD channels.

This might not be the same issue, though.

08-31-09, 10:21 AM

Just noticed that in my area 30030 Comcast has moved the CCI setting from 0 to 2 on AMCHD. That means no recording over firewire for AMCHD.

Robert_962

08-31-09, 01:06 PM

Anyone live in 30326? Are you seeing the new channel on your tivo?
I live in Virginia Highlands (30306) and I started receiving the new channels in my Tivo Guide last week, but there wasn't actually a working signal for any of the new HD channels. After one fruitless call to Comcast, I called back and got somebody who knew what they were talking about:

Our area isn't scheduled for the digital upgrade until Dec. 15. So the channels won't be available until then. The TIVO guide doesn't pick-up neighborhood-by-neighborhood channel availability, so once parts of Atlanta started receiving the channels, the Tivo guide got updated globally. That's why you may see the guide showing the channels, but you may not actually be able to "receive" the signal yet.

Anyway, at least where I am, out of luck until December.

commodore_dude

08-31-09, 02:17 PM

So we're 5 days away from copious amounts of college football, and there is indeed a conflict between FSN South and SportSouth at 7:00 Saturday night for HD games. When I check the online schedule on Comcast's site, I see that the Braves game (SportSouth) is set for 848, so where are they planning on putting the Florida (FSN South) game? Not that I'm an unwashed UF fan or anything, but it sets a bad precedent that I can't find that game on in HD on any other channel... Looks like the Vandy game (CSS) is going to be on 805 at 7:30, so there's one slot they can't use...

McDonoughDawg

08-31-09, 05:08 PM

weeber24

08-31-09, 07:36 PM

Just noticed that in my area 30030 Comcast has moved the CCI setting from 0 to 2 on AMCHD. That means no recording over firewire for AMCHD.

I'm in 30008 and AMCHD is still recordable in my area via firewire. I wonder if this is a Stone Mtn. vs Vinings headend thing?

ChazzMatt

08-31-09, 09:04 PM

30329 here, and I was quoted October 15.

My friend is in Peactree Corners with a Norcross zip code and she's been told mid-October by the crawl on the bottom. She's all upset because she's paying for basic but has been getting extended basic all these years. And she has a CRT TV. All the channels she really cares about is going away unless she subscribes to what she's been getting for free...

Someone she knows has U-verse and she hates it. So, she'll probably pony up the money to upgrade the Comcast package so the DTA will show her what she wants.

slowbiscuit

09-01-09, 07:31 AM

All I got to say to that is...

WAH!

Bmr4life

09-01-09, 08:27 AM

I'm in 30345 and my screen crawl says Sept 15th.

commodore_dude

09-01-09, 02:31 PM

I see potential for conflict myself, and I vote for COLLEGE FOOTBALL over the Braves....

Just for kicks, I went to the guide for Saturday....Ch 7 WPCH is showing the UT game but 802 is showing OFF the air...it should be available in HiDef, but I have no confidence in Comcast to actually turn it on.

848 Shows the Braves at 7 PM...ch 48 shows the UF game.

Has anyone ever gotten a good reason as to why they don't just turn on 802 all the time? I realize the only true HD has been the Braves to this point, but now they will have a Saturday 12:20 game of College Football too....

Not to mention SEVERAL SEC basketball games per week starting in January... I will be watching this closely because I am still very tempted to switch from Dish to get the CSS and ESPNU games in HD (not to mention the rain fade), but not at the expense of some of these half-ass part time channels...

ChazzMatt

09-01-09, 02:34 PM

My friend is in Peactree Corners with a Norcross zip code and she's been told mid-October by the crawl on the bottom. She's all upset because she's paying for basic but has been getting extended basic all these years. And she has a CRT TV. All the channels she really cares about is going away unless she subscribes to what she's been getting for free...

Someone she knows has U-verse and she hates it. So, she'll probably pony up the money to upgrade the Comcast package so the DTA will show her what she wants.

All I got to say to that is...

WAH!

I know. No one complains about DirecTV or Dish Network doing something like that, because the customers weren't allowed to see more than you were paying for anyway. Same with the new Uverse, I imagine?

But with cable TV "filters" that didn't work or installers that didn't care, there is a culture of cable piracy. As I mentioned before, one year in an apartment I got extended basic when I wasn't even paying for cable TV and I didn't call Comcast to complain. :) (I was paying $20 more for the standalone Comcast internet service, since I wasn't paying for cable TV -- so in my mind it was sort of even... But I was still getting the best end of the deal.)

So, I'm not condemning or judging. But people who don't have digital TVs are about to lose a freebie many of them have -- they've been getting discounted cable for a few years. And when Comcast shuts off the clear QAM faucet, then even those with digital TVs will be affected.

And the people who have been getting the free cable upgrades will complain, but surely they knew it had to end sometime?

09-01-09, 04:49 PM

I'm in 30008 and AMCHD is still recordable in my area via firewire. I wonder if this is a Stone Mtn. vs Vinings headend thing?

It very well could be. A couple of years ago stone mountain had cci=2 on some OTA channels while Vining didn't. I actually got through to the engineer responsible and he verified it but just couldn't see any difference in the configuration. Eventually the lineup changed in some way and it fixed itself.

Are the premiums out of Vining cci=2. They were cci=0 for a long time out of Stone Mtn, but shifted a few months ago.

ptkdude

09-01-09, 05:17 PM

I just spoke with someone in Executive Escalations from Comcast, and was told that analog channels will drop out in Midtown on December 15, 2009. Specifically, this was the A2 area and included at least ZIP codes 30308 and 30309.

Tybee

09-01-09, 09:54 PM

slowbiscuit

09-02-09, 09:54 AM

It very well could be. A couple of years ago stone mountain had cci=2 on some OTA channels while Vining didn't. I actually got through to the engineer responsible and he verified it but just couldn't see any difference in the configuration. Eventually the lineup changed in some way and it fixed itself.

Are the premiums out of Vining cci=2. They were cci=0 for a long time out of Stone Mtn, but shifted a few months ago.
I believe all the premiums are CP'd now. In addition, they recently CP'd all the Encores, Flix, and Movieplex. From what I can see on the Tivo, AMC HD is not CP'd. Vinings headend.

McDonoughDawg

09-02-09, 10:18 AM

I believe that Comcast cable boxes include a sensor that determines whether the viewer is wearing jean shorts. If yes, it defaults to UF programming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BZI_ROwMo

AKA JORTS...

Gotta LOL at that comment. Football season is here. GATA!!

titans4ever

09-02-09, 07:35 PM

New channel 805, is this for the SEC football??

neil0311

09-02-09, 09:21 PM

All the channels she really cares about is going away unless she subscribes to what she's been getting for free...

No...what you mean is she's no longer able to steal the channels she's been stealing all this time. She's not getting anything "for free"...she's been stealing them. Let's call it what it is....OK?

pcgraffy

09-02-09, 09:31 PM

New channel 805, is this for the SEC football??

Yes - CSS HD. Link. (http://csssports.com/pages/highdefinition)

ChazzMatt

09-02-09, 09:34 PM

No...what you mean is she's no longer able to steal the channels she's been stealing all this time. She's not getting anything "for free"...she's been stealing them. Let's call it what it is....OK?

She's not been stealing anything.

She moved into her condo, transferred over her Comcast service to the new residence and found she got more channels. She didn't complain.

She's paying Comcast for what she contracted for. They are giving her more channels than she contracted for -- whether they are doing it on purpose or not should not be her concern. If the airline gave you a free upgrade to First Class, after paying for coach, you are not "stealing". It might be on purpose, it might be a computer glitch. But you are not a thief. She's not "stealing" anything.

I'm on Comcast's side here -- if they now have the technology to prevent this, then no one has a right to complain.

But don't characterize my friend as a thief.

pcgraffy

09-02-09, 09:37 PM

No...what you mean is she's no longer able to steal the channels she's been stealing all this time. She's not getting anything "for free"...she's been stealing them. Let's call it what it is....OK?

Don't you think you are being a little harsh here?

If you order 12 wings at a restaurant, but they bring you 13 instead, are you stealing if you don't give them 1 back?

Souren

09-03-09, 07:00 PM

30012 Conyers area here and a Comcast Tech was here yesterday to install the HSI and Digital Voice. I asked when our area would be able to get the Extreme 50Mbs speed option, 16Mbs is the max now, he said sometime after Jan 2010 when they do the upgrade to the area. He said that would also be when we'd need to get DTA's for 2 LCD's we have that don't have a box already.

I guess I'm crossing my fingers they continue to show Sons of Anarchy which starts Sept 8th on FX in HD through On Demand. It was just a fluke last year when I was browsing through On Demand and stumbled across it showing in HD when they didn't have FXHD available. It still sucks I have to wait a day or 2 after the initial airing for it to be available (assuming they still have it in On Demand this year).

At least for now we upgraded from Digital Starter with HDDVR to Premier which gives us HBO, Show, Cinemax, and Starx and we are loving all the new free contant in On Demand from those channels in HD. Can't really complain at $139/month getting almost all the pay channels with a DVR, internet, and unlimited voice + $3.50 modem lease. We had been paying $69 just for Digital Starter with DVR, then $75 for AT&T phone with NO long distance, NO CallerID, and 6Mbs DSL Internet. Our monthly costs stay practically the same and we doubled our channels and our internet speed!

ChazzMatt

09-03-09, 07:52 PM

New channel 805, is this for the SEC football??

I'm not seeing that channel in my program guide yet -- and we have all the other new HD channels...

titans4ever

09-04-09, 04:55 AM

It appeared then disappeared. I'm not seeing it now.

AtlantaDave

09-04-09, 09:41 AM

It appeared then disappeared. I'm not seeing it now.

I suspect it will be back, before the first kickoff.

neil0311

09-04-09, 08:42 PM

Don't you think you are being a little harsh here?

If you order 12 wings at a restaurant, but they bring you 13 instead, are you stealing if you don't give them 1 back?

Bad analogy. When you know you are receiving service that you shouldn't be receiving, and you do not call to get it squared away, it's called theft of service.

The problem today is that people rationalize their theft and feel entitled. If Comcast makes a mistake that you know is a mistake, and you take advatage of it, you're still guilty of taking something and not paying for it.

neil0311

09-04-09, 08:45 PM

She's not been stealing anything.

She moved into her condo, transferred over her Comcast service to the new residence and found she got more channels. She didn't complain.

So she knows that she should she shouldn't be receiving those channels for what she pays but doesn't say anything and takes them anyway?

But don't characterize my friend as a thief.

It's called THEFT OF SERVICE. You can make the characterization you feel appropriate.

jon1964

09-04-09, 10:01 PM

Yesterday in Decatur (30030 - A mile south of Agnes Scott) I saw two AT&T trucks in my neighborhood stringing cable on the telephone poles. I asked the guys in the cherry picker if the wires they were installing were for U-Verse service. The guy confirmed they indeed were.
So, my assumption is the U-Verse service gets here before Comcast's digital expansion that some folks who are on this board and live in the right places are raving about. It would behove Comcast to get a move on their update plans. Has AT&T beat Comcast in other areas of Atlanta or does Comcast just seem to lag behind AT&T? I think when people see two or three times the choices of HD being offered by another cable provider, Comcast might lose some market share. Has this happened in other areas of town or do you think AT&T is going into areas it knows Comcast will not get to for months?

Thoughts anyone?

AtlantisMichael

09-04-09, 10:02 PM

So she knows that she should she shouldn't be receiving those channels for what she pays but doesn't say anything and takes them anyway?

It's called THEFT OF SERVICE. You can make the characterization you feel appropriate.

Bad analogy. When you know you are receiving service that you shouldn't be receiving, and you do not call to get it squared away, it's called theft of service.

The problem today is that people rationalize their theft and feel entitled. If Comcast makes a mistake that you know is a mistake, and you take advatage of it, you're still guilty of taking something and not paying for it.

I have to agree that if she knew that she was getting something that she was not paying for, the right thing for her to do would have been to notify Comcast. Same with the chicken wings, let the manager know. He will say thanks and let you have the wing and not charge you extra. At least you have done the right thing. It is not like Comcast would back bill her for the freebies.
Who knows, perhaps someone else was stealling the service before her. What would have happend then if Comcast found out that she was getting free service? They would be in their own right to have her prosecuted for theft of service, even though she did not make the illegal hookup.
For her to complain that they are taking away something that is not hers to have in the first place is why we all end up having to pay more for all things and services. If everyone did the right and honorable thing, then we all benefit. As it is now though, we are forced to pay for those who don't or want do the right thing.
Michael

ChazzMatt

09-05-09, 02:58 AM

So she knows that she should she shouldn't be receiving those channels for what she pays but doesn't say anything and takes them anyway?

It's called THEFT OF SERVICE. You can make the characterization you feel appropriate.

"takes them"

See, that's where you are mistaken.

It's not theft if the company gives you more than you paid for. You are not actively taking something from them. She is a Comcast customer, but she doesn't run Comcast's business. It's not up to her -- or you -- if Comcast gives their customers more than they are paying for.

If you read the story, she transferred her service to her condo when she bought it. Suddenly at the new place she's getting more channels. Blame the Comcast installer -- a paid representative of the company, trained by the company -- or blame a faulty filter -- or blame a poorly written work order. I don't know. But she did nothing. She didn't jimmy a lock, she didn't hold anyone at gunpoint. All she did was turn on her TV.

But, my friend is not like the people who open their apartment boxes and turn on cable they are not even paying for. You need to distinguish the difference.

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True story. A female friend of mine bought a used 2005 Jeep Liberty a couple of months ago from a Dodge dealership here in the Atlanta area, getting rid of a 10 year old Volkswagen. I recently asked her about the vehicle and she said she was enjoying the Sirius satellite radio -- no commercials! She'd heard of satellite radio but had never used one. Cool. "So, what are you paying per month?" "Paying?" Yeah, I explained to her that NEW vehicles usually get a 1-year free subscription or something, but that after that you pay like $10, $13, $18 per month for the service.

She knows nothing about that. She's just enjoying her satellite radio. She's not "stealing" anything. She's not obligated to call Sirius and say, "How am I getting all these channels?" IF it's a problem, it's Sirius' problem, not hers.

Maybe she got a 1-year subscription as part of her purchase, even though it's a used car? Maybe the previous owner pre-paid for a year or 5 years. She doesn't know, she doesn't care, and she doesn't have to care since she's doing nothing wrong. She is not "stealing" their service. They are giving it to her -- for some reason. And when it stops working, oh well. She'll go back to regular radio.

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Here's another analogy. You go to the movies on a Friday night. In the mall at an ATM, you withdraw $200 in 20s from your account. Stick them in your wallet, along with the receipt. Go home. The next day you realize you have eleven twenties, not ten. The ATM gave you $220, instead of $200. But the receipt and your account balance shows only a $200 withdrawl. And the ATM wasn't even at your local branch, it was an ATM in the mall. What do you do? Do you really worry about it or do you just say this is karma payback for past service?

On Tuesday (since this Monday is a "Labor Day" and the banks are closed -- unlike restaurants, malls, furniture stores and car dealerships), do you spend 30 minutes and $8 worth of gas to go to your local branch (which is not even where the offensive ATM is located) to try to give back the extra $20? Maybe you mail the $20 to corporate bank headquarters with a note? If you do, fine. If you don't, no one is going to call you a thief. You didn't use a crow bar on the ATM. You didn't "steal" anything. The ATM mistakenly gave you an extra $20 and it's not your fault. The bank just gave you an extra $20.

Now if it happens often enough, with enough customers, the bank will realize the ATM needs to be repaired or replaced. But again, no one is going to call the customers thieves.

This is what Comcast is doing -- they are repairing/replacing the freebie ATM machine with one (encrypted DTAs) that will not give extra $20s. ;)

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But here's something a lot closer to home. It involved TVs.

What about the basic channel subscribers who have digital TVs and they are getting clear QAM of extended basic channels? ARE THEY THEIVES TOO? By your thinking, they are "stealing" channels. What are they supposed to do, not even use their TV remotes to see those channels because viewing those channels is stealing? :rolleyes: See, you have no answer for that. And even worse than my friend who is getting extended basic for a basic price, these people can even see PPV movies without paying. (It's true. If you scan through on your remote, you will see On-Demand movies other people in your neighborhood have bought.) Oh my, send them to jail now! And if you reply to this message, I want you to reply to this point specifically or don't bother replying. What about digital TV owners who are gettig a "free" package upgrade?

It's the same thing. According to your way of thinking, these digital TV owners are also "taking" channels they are not paying for! :eek:

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The whole point of my original post was to point out that Comcast now has a way to stop all this from happening, not to pass judgment on people who are seeing free channels. Again, I'm on Comcast's side. Because as a company, it is hard to stop something like this when your own employees (installers) are either incompetent or your own tools (filters) are flawed or technology (digital TV with clear QAM tuners) jumps ahead of you.

I am pointing out that as something like this never existed for satellite dishes or even FIOS or Uverse, it will also disappear from cable.

AtlantisMichael

09-05-09, 10:53 AM

"takes them"

See, that's where you are mistaken.

It's not theft if the company gives you more than you paid for. You are not actively taking something from them. She is a Comcast customer, but she doesn't run Comcast's business. It's not up to her -- or you -- if Comcast gives their customers more than they are paying for.

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REPLY:
You happend to be dead wrong on this. It is considered theft in a court of law. You will be asked if you reported this and proof thereof. Same as if a realitive had died and you sent in the notice to the government, yet you continued to get checks and cashed them. You would be prosecuted and have to pay back that money.
To give implies a willing and knowing act. This is clearly not that.
She is not an honorable person(see my previous post).

The jeep story: Same, not an honorable person. Just taking what is not theirs to take. She should notify the company. If it was my decesion to make, I would go after them for the cost of the services they took. Had they notified me about this and I did nothing, then it is on my head at that point.
You ATM: what if you were the person who loaded the machine and got fired for stealing? How would you feel if you found out that a friend knew the problen was in the machine and did not report it?
There is no justifing their actions, no way, wo how, no where.
Your friends, if they found a wallet full of money and plenty of ID, would just keep it form what I am reading here. Not much character. I know I do not have friends of this ilk.

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QUOTE:
But here's something a lot closer to home. It involved TVs.

What about the basic channel subscribers who have digital TVs and they are getting clear QAM of extended basic channels? ARE THEY THEIVES TOO? By your thinking, they are "stealing" channels. What are they supposed to do, not even use their TV remotes to see those channels because viewing those channels is stealing? :rolleyes: See, you have no answer for that. And even worse than my friend who is getting extended basic for a basic price, these people can even see PPV movies without paying. (It's true. If you scan through on your remote, you will see On-Demand movies other people in your neighborhood have bought.) Oh my, send them to jail now! And if you reply to this message, I want you to reply to this point specifically or don't bother replying. What about digital TV owners who are gettig a "free" package upgrade?

It's the same thing. According to your way of thinking, these digital TV owners are also "taking" channels they are not paying for! :eek:

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REPLY:
The above is not the same, no where close, as this digital age is still new and being ironed out. The cable compnies know of this problem of PPV and such and is addressing it. The clear QAM will, if we are lucking still be there, but for only to what we pay for. This is being worked on as well.
The former invloves old analog service which has been around for a long time. Something that has an easy fix, only if it is reported or found out. If she is not willing to report the problem, then how else will Comcast find out? And when they do, they will have a right to collect for past services since it could be assumed that this was stolen.

QUOTE:
I am pointing out that as something like this never existed for satellite dishes or even FIOS or Uverse, it will also disappear from cable.
REPLY:
Satellite and Dish has its own theives, bootleg boxes and such. Also, they can also make service mistakes. That does not mean that you are absolved of all responsiblity in making the right decesion.

Michael
PS:
Perhaps this thread can get back to what it is here for: Technical and service related problems, not some issue on price and morals or lack thereof.

atlantag8r

09-05-09, 01:51 PM

Anyone spot the SEC Network game in HD on Comcast anywhere? (Tennessee versus Western Kentucky on Peachtree TV). Best I can tell its only on in SD, with no programming at all on 848. :(

pcgraffy

09-05-09, 05:22 PM

Anyone spot the SEC Network game in HD on Comcast anywhere? (Tennessee versus Western Kentucky on Peachtree TV). Best I can tell its only on in SD, with no programming at all on 848. :(

No, if anything, it would have been on 802 - Peachtree TV HD. But it wasn't there.

They have added SPSOHD on 884, which solves the conflict for tonight's Braves game vs. UF game.

McDonoughDawg

09-06-09, 11:06 AM

No, if anything, it would have been on 802 - Peachtree TV HD. But it wasn't there.

They have added SPSOHD on 884, which solves the conflict for tonight's Braves game vs. UF game.

I thought that's exactly what they would do. NOT TURN ON 802. Great work guys.

cracker 52

09-10-09, 03:44 PM

Does anyone know which channel on Comcast will show the NFL Red Zone? I called customer service and they said it's still not known yet for Atlanta.

Ryokurin

09-10-09, 05:41 PM

They are sending out final notice cards in the mail at my apartment complex in 30338. September 15th.

cracker 52

09-10-09, 06:24 PM

I got that final notice card also, in zip code 30319

uvatexn

09-11-09, 11:32 AM

commodore_dude

09-11-09, 02:14 PM

A DTA will prevent you from accessing any of the HD channels you currently get via QAM. Just don't expect to be able to access all of the basic channels forever, it's very possible most of them will end up encrypted.

McDonoughDawg

09-12-09, 09:59 AM

Does anyone know which channel on Comcast will show the NFL Red Zone? I called customer service and they said it's still not known yet for Atlanta.

I heard the end of an advertisement for this channel on on-demand...I didn't catch the channel, but I did hear them say it was on the Sports & Entertainment Package...so you should get it, if you get that package.

AtlantisMichael

09-12-09, 11:56 AM

slowbiscuit

09-12-09, 12:56 PM

I thought that's exactly what they would do. NOT TURN ON 802. Great work guys.
Looks like the same deal this week - WPCH is SD only for the SEC game of the week (Troy at UF). I'm guessing it's because the game is only broadcast in SD, but it doesn't make much sense when all the of SEC games on WATL last year were in HD.

Jay Gregory

09-12-09, 01:01 PM

I'm guessing it's because the game is only broadcast in SD, but it doesn't make much sense when all the of SEC games on WATL last year were in HD.

No, the game is in HD on 17-1 (OTA.)

ChrisHman

09-12-09, 01:27 PM

The HD Peachtree TV station isnt broadcast 24/7 on Comcast, only during Braves games. I'm worried that whatever agreement they reached to do that didnt cover the SEC network, and that we are now at a stalemate again. But that seems really dumb since its an OTA channel i assumed it was must carry.

Time for everyone to email comcast/peachtree and complain.

Edit:
http://support.peachtreetv.com
"Will you broadcast SEC games in HD?
SEC games are shot and aired in native 1080i high definition.
Not all providers carry Peachtree TV in HD. You will need to check with your cable or satellite provider to see if it is available to you.
Please note: Comcast airs Peachtree TV in HD only during Primetime hours for Braves games coverage."

Yup, definately time to call and complain.

McDonoughDawg

09-12-09, 01:53 PM

Anyone have a decent contact number at Comcast?

levander

09-12-09, 03:18 PM

Some channels stopped working on my MythTV box last night. I had to re-scan to get them back with scte65scan. But, now the video is "jittery" when I'm watching Live TV.

Anybody else have this problem?

I'm in area code 30066.

fritzenheimer

09-12-09, 04:45 PM

cnascar

09-12-09, 07:28 PM

I just recently switched to directv, SportSouth has been advertising the football game tonight in HD, but the FSSouth SEC Game is also in HD. Is Comcast offering both, of just the SEC, in HD? Is SPSO HD on 884 full time, or just that one night?

cracker 52

09-12-09, 08:12 PM

I heard the end of an advertisement for this channel on on-demand...I didn't catch the channel, but I did hear them say it was on the Sports & Entertainment Package...so you should get it, if you get that package.

Today, I saw channel 299 slated for NFL Red Zone, which apparently is part of the Sports-Entertainment group. It doesn't appear there'll be a HD version, but we shall see tomorrow.

ChrisHman

09-13-09, 10:22 AM

Today, I saw channel 299 slated for NFL Red Zone, which apparently is part of the Sports-Entertainment group. It doesn't appear there'll be a HD version, but we shall see tomorrow.

Not having this in HD would be a shame. Its definately available.

mastacow53

09-13-09, 10:39 AM

Not having this in HD would be a shame. Its definately available.

What's the deal with this? The NFL Network has been pushing "RedZone" for two months saying "Every scoring play in HD".

I had planned on checking it out, but now I think I'll pass.

ChrisHman

09-13-09, 11:10 AM

In the Redzone thread they are talking about how no Comcast markets have it in HD, so it might be a contract thing. But i think there is one market (Baltimore) that had it up. We shall see, but i agree i'm definately not spending the $5 if its not HD.

levander

09-13-09, 01:16 PM

I live in Sandy Springs and since the digital conversion here we've been able to use one of our Sony LCD TV's with TVGOS without a DTA. We've been getting a full range of channels. Yesterday, the guide dropped the list of channels and all the channels in the 104.XX range that we've received previously are now saying "no signal." For example, CSPAN, 104.201 and 104.202 are no longer showing on my set.

Does anyone know what might have changed?

fritz, look at my post one above you. It seems like in Marietta, Comcast changed the frequencies around that it broadcasts some stations on.

With your Sony TV's, did you have to have it do a channel scan when you first hooked it up to the wall? If so, just do that scan again. Or, if you don't have to do that scan, maybe the same stations are just on different channels?

ChazzMatt

09-13-09, 04:38 PM

Just bought a new (small) TV that is fully digital (gets the HD network channels, etc). Do I need a DTA for that, or is it ok b/c it's a digital TV?

Also, if I DO need a DTA box, does that mean I'll no longer be able to get the local channels in HD??

No you do not need a DTA. When you do a scan of the cable input, you will see that most all the clear QAM channels will be listed up on the higher end, such as 98.3 for ABC( at least in Woodstock). It has not be decided as far as I know if the cable companies plan on encryting all the clear QAM channels that you would get with an all digital tuner tv. So you should be good to go for a while.
Michael

A more accurate answer is you do not need to get a DTA for now.

But Comcast has said repeatedly YOU WILL need to get have a device for ALL TVs, even if they are digital. A DTA, settop box, cable card -- a Comcast device WILL be needed to access any channels past basic. They have a FAQ about it. Plus they have confirmed this to the media in newspaper articles.

Why do they say that when right now QAM still works? Because obviously they plan to encrypt that at some point in the near future -- probably by next summer after they finish their nationwide digital switchover.