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JJMiller
01-30-07, 01:35 PM
The Logitech Harmony 880 (or really any of the Harmony remotes) is what you want.
Thanks. That's obviously the clear favorite around these forums. I'm just a bit nervous by some user reviews on sites like cnet, etc. complaining about button size, button layout, and just overall ergonomics. I'd hate to spend close to $200 for a remote that I end up barely using.

Tybee
01-30-07, 03:10 PM
Thanks. That's obviously the clear favorite around these forums. I'm just a bit nervous by some user reviews on sites like cnet, etc. complaining about button size, button layout, and just overall ergonomics. I'd hate to spend close to $200 for a remote that I end up barely using.

Well, as far as the ergonomics and button feel, I've heard a lot of people prefer the Harmony 720, which has more defined buttons and a more spacious layout, sacrificing only two selection/macro buttons on either side of the LCD (the 880 has 8, the 720 has 6). Best bet is to get both in your hand and see which you like better. I'm trying to make that decision myself.

Meinken
01-30-07, 05:18 PM
I've been using a Phillips pronto for years and love it.


Has anyone found a universal remote that's a good substitute for the silver URC-106XXXXX remote supplied by Comcast? I have a new TV and new AVR, so I'm desperately in need of a decent universal remote that can turn everything on, switch TV and AVR inputs for DVD, etc. so the wife is able to watch TV without me. However, 95% of the time I'm watching TV, I have the Comcast remote in my hands and I've gotten quite used to the feel of it and don't need to look down to find the most common buttons (e.g. Guide, Info, pg up, pg down, My DVR, etc.). I'm skeptical whether I'll truly be able to get down to one remote, or if I'll always have the Comcast one around for regular DVR watching. Any recommendations?

TIA,
JJ

Milmanias
01-30-07, 07:11 PM
HD: WUPA (CW), A&E; NBC Universal, National Geographic, VERSUS/Golf (which is already up, although I have yet to see an HD show on it)


I'm happy to read this. I expected A&E and NG, but had little hope of UHD and no hope of CW. Hope to see BSG in HD soon :) .

bryan_05
01-30-07, 09:32 PM
Anyone else in NW Atlanta still having problems with the HD Channels that aren't regular TV, On Demand, and the guide?

LeRoyK
01-31-07, 08:32 AM
Re: Harmony Remotes

Office Depot was advertizing the Harmony 676 at about a hundred bucks a while back. I own that model and it works fine for my entire home theater. You can compare the layouts at the logitech harmony site

JJMiller
01-31-07, 09:56 AM
Re: Harmony Remotes

Office Depot was advertizing the Harmony 676 at about a hundred bucks a while back. I own that model and it works fine for my entire home theater. You can compare the layouts at the logitech harmony site
Thanks for that info. I've wanted to get a closer look at that model, but you can't seem to find it at the bigger electronics retailers. I checked ODs website, and it's the same price you saw. I'll have to go check it out.

LeRoyK
02-01-07, 10:15 AM
One other thing I really like about the Harmony Remotes is adaptability. Over time I have gone from a Bellsouth STB to a Comcast DVR, a SDTV to a HDTV, an older Pioneer receiver to a new Onkyo, an old DVD to a new upconverting DVD and I added in a HDMI switch (the VCR is original); all without having to retrain anyone in my family on using the new setup. They just continue to use the 676 in the same way even though my home theater changed dramatically, and each of the changes was made at a different time.

jb132319
02-01-07, 08:54 PM
I'm so glad to hear that we're getting A&E and the other channels, The HD programming is getting better, it's not there yet, has there been any word on the History Channel HD? And also, I saw they're deleting some channels, can't find my pamphlet, just curious what's on the Digital Deluxe Tier, just want to make sure I'm not losing any of my fave channels. Thanks.

Tybee
02-02-07, 01:49 PM
I'm so glad to hear that we're getting A&E and the other channels, The HD programming is getting better, it's not there yet, has there been any word on the History Channel HD? And also, I saw they're deleting some channels, can't find my pamphlet, just curious what's on the Digital Deluxe Tier, just want to make sure I'm not losing any of my fave channels. Thanks.

For History Channel HD just switch back and forth really fast between Fox News and A&E HD and you'll get roughly the same effect. :rolleyes:

HomieG
02-04-07, 07:59 AM
I've got the Comcast 3412 HD DVR. It's been trouble free since last June. Sometime between Friday and Saturday it "lost" all of its recordings. It also lost all of it's future scheduled records. Anyone else have this happen between Friday and Saturday?

rayl
02-04-07, 08:05 AM
As of late, none of my boxes have forward guide information either, even non-hd dvr boxes. I just got the 3416 Friday as an upgrade to 6412 ph2. It doesn't seem to load any guide info past this morning.

climber109
02-07-07, 06:27 PM
I am looking for a complete list of digital channels available on unencrypted QAM (ClearQAM). I would like to see both HD and SD channels.

obeck
02-08-07, 02:07 PM
I am looking for a complete list of digital channels available on unencrypted QAM (ClearQAM). I would like to see both HD and SD channels.


They just changed them around last weekend... I had to rescan everything and put together a new list. I'll edit this post later on and tell you what I am picking up now.

From memory, I think NBC HD and FOX HD moved to new locations, and myATL is now broadcasting in HD, some NBA channel is broadcasting in digital, and they added a few more "OnDemand" channels in my neck of the woods (Dunwoody). I almost never watch the SD digital channels, so I am not sure what changed there.

My gripe: I wish they would put all of the clear QAM channels together. It would make it easier to find them when they suddenly change lineup, and recording a channel instead of a subchannel might be possible for those nights when I record two HD channels

Foojay
02-10-07, 10:09 AM
I've got the Comcast 3412 HD DVR. It's been trouble free since last June. Sometime between Friday and Saturday it "lost" all of its recordings. It also lost all of it's future scheduled records. Anyone else have this happen between Friday and Saturday?

Motorola boxes are notoriously crappy. It's a bug that affects that box, same thing happened to me 3 times. I switched out the box for a 3416.

But now with the 3416 there is an HDMI bug, basically every so often the HDMI output on the box stops working. The only way to fix it is to either turn the box of and on or the tv.

But the since I switched I have not had any recordings delete.

obeck
02-13-07, 04:40 PM
For all of those doing clear QAM with a TV or PC card that supports it: Does Comcast (I'm in Dunwoody) transmit call letters or station description so that it is viewable on your set?


Olevia gave sent a replacement for my one year old set that is going downhill. The new set has a QAM tuner... and I tuned a bunch of digital stations, but there are no call letters assigned to the stations. I am trying to figure out if this is Comcast (probably) or the individual stations in Atlanta that are supposed to send that information. Other folks with the same TV in other parts of the country get labels on their digitial/QAM tuned stations, so I figured this is a Comcast problem. Any Ideas?

Also, I noticed that the new set tunes a different set of stations that my MDP-130. Should we be using IRC, HRC, or ??? when trying to tune stations? Thanks


Doug

JJMiller
02-13-07, 06:31 PM
For all of those doing clear QAM with a TV or PC card that supports it: Does Comcast (I'm in Dunwoody) transmit call letters or station description so that it is viewable on your set?

I don't get any station name / letters on my digital QAM channels from Comcast (Marietta). I have a DVR STB anyway, so it's not a big issue. Not only that, but the scan on my set also picks up dozens of channels that don't have a picture. I'm guessing these are the encrypted channels, but I have no confirmation (it's just my guess). This pretty much makes my built in QAM tuner practically unuseable (though, all I would ever use it for would be for PIP).

Knowing how hard Comcast is fighting to NOT be forced to support CableCARDs, I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of station info is a nice little "screw you" from them to us owners of sets with QAM tuners.

pcgraffy
02-13-07, 09:30 PM
I just noticed on Bravesvision channel 755, the message has changed from "All Turner South home games in HD" to "All Home games in HD." This is good news, as now all FSN games and SportSouth (Turner South) home games will be in HD.

The question is, does TBS plan to do any road games in HD in preparation for their playoff coverage?

Milmanias
02-14-07, 07:25 AM
I just noticed on Bravesvision channel 755, the message has changed from "All Turner South home games in HD" to "All Home games in HD." This is good news, as now all FSN games and SportSouth (Turner South) home games will be in HD.

The question is, does TBS plan to do any road games in HD in preparation for their playoff coverage?

Very good news indeed. I always thought it was a waste not to show all the home games in HD in that channel.

Bigjohns
02-14-07, 07:27 PM
is this in un-encrypted QAM?

ChrisHman
02-15-07, 07:17 PM
Pretty much every previous QAM channel i had written down is not coming up in a scan now (except MyNetwork at 101-3). Vining Headend.

Edit:

ABC 2-1
Fox 5-1
NBATV 28-4
CBS 46-1
My ATL - 101-3
Bravesvision 111-2 (clear)

NBC ???
TBS ???

schisamo
02-17-07, 11:23 AM
Pretty much every previous QAM channel i had written down is not coming up in a scan now (except MyNetwork at 101-3). Vining Headend.

Edit:

ABC 2-1
Fox 5-1
NBATV 28-4
CBS 46-1
My ATL - 101-3
Bravesvision 111-2 (clear)

NBC ???
TBS ???

Same thing is happening to me in West Atlanta. Decided to do a scan this morning and noticed everything has switched. It appears my guide data is finally working for all the locals, but losing the NBC HD feed is a real bummer. Maybe they are doing some upgrades today? Maybe I'll have to break down and get a box...I hate living without ESPN HD!

UPDATE - It looks like TBS HD is now at channel 17-1. If anyone ends up locating the new channel number for NBC HD please post to the forum.

TheNeoBeast
02-18-07, 07:43 PM
Same thing is happening to me in West Atlanta. Decided to do a scan this morning and noticed everything has switched. It appears my guide data is finally working for all the locals, but losing the NBC HD feed is a real bummer. Maybe they are doing some upgrades today? Maybe I'll have to break down and get a box...I hate living without ESPN HD!

UPDATE - It looks like TBS HD is now at channel 17-1. If anyone ends up locating the new channel number for NBC HD please post to the forum.


I've got NBC HD on 108-2, so:

ABC ~ 2-1
Fox ~ 5-1
TBS ~ 17-1
NBATV ~ 28-4
CBS ~ 46-1
My ATL ~ 101-3
NBC ~ 108-2
Bravesvision ~ 111-2

schisamo
02-18-07, 08:41 PM
I've got NBC HD on 108-2, so:

ABC ~ 2-1
Fox ~ 5-1
TBS ~ 17-1
NBATV ~ 28-4
CBS ~ 46-1
My ATL ~ 101-3
NBC ~ 108-2
Bravesvision ~ 111-2

Just tried to tune in NBC on 108-2 and it doesn't seem to be working here (30318). I also noticed MyATL comes in on 101-2 also.

TheNeoBeast
02-19-07, 11:25 PM
Hmmm, that's odd. I'm watching NBC right now on 108-2 (Leno and Conan, baby), I'm in 30339 though.

tcdesire
02-20-07, 12:27 AM
I get my NBC just today at 11-1

I think Comcast need to stop screwing us around with all this channel change, with 100's of open digital channel available to them, you figure surely they can leave that major 5(abc,cbs,fox,nac,myatl) alone.

We need to continue updated the list for Atlanta area

schisamo
02-20-07, 07:16 AM
I get my NBC just today at 11-1

I think Comcast need to stop screwing us around with all this channel change, with 100's of open digital channel available to them, you figure surely they can leave that major 5(abc,cbs,fox,nac,myatl) alone.

We need to continue updated the list for Atlanta area

Thanks for the update tcdesire, but alas I have nothing at 11-1 either. This really sucks, I'm pretty sure I can't call customer service and demand to know where NBC should be on my QAM tuner. I know Comcast is supposed to provide all locals in HD on standard cable per FCC mandate, but they don't do it willingly!

cole.clark
02-20-07, 08:45 AM
All,

Apologies if this has already been posted but several searches did not turn up the answer. Does anyone know if Comcast is now carrying the CW in HD on basic cable? I would have my Sony TV do a channel search but it takes EONS to complete and even then I have to go channel by channel to see what it turned up. If anyone knows the channel assignment (again, basic QAM tuner frequency, not using a cable box), I'd be much appreciated. I'm in 30350 (Sandy Springs).

Even more appreciated would be a channel line-up list for HD on basic cable, or a source for same.

-Cole Clark

HomieG
02-20-07, 07:35 PM
All,

Apologies if this has already been posted but several searches did not turn up the answer. Does anyone know if Comcast is now carrying the CW in HD on basic cable? I would have my Sony TV do a channel search but it takes EONS to complete and even then I have to go channel by channel to see what it turned up. If anyone knows the channel assignment (again, basic QAM tuner frequency, not using a cable box), I'd be much appreciated. I'm in 30350 (Sandy Springs).

Even more appreciated would be a channel line-up list for HD on basic cable, or a source for same.

-Cole Clark

A recent Comcast mailing says this will be available March 15th.

AtlantisMichael
02-24-07, 12:22 PM
Anyone on cable having problems with the digital feed of channel 5, FOX Atlanta?
The OTA signal is down, so I would like to see if cable is down as well. I think the basic digital channel is 92.21.
Thanks,
Michael

commodore_dude
02-24-07, 01:36 PM
Working fine for me. Also, I noticed we're losing Weatherscan off of channel 19 at the end of the month, wonder if they're just not mapping it for digital users or if they're taking it off analog completely, that would help explain how we've got the bandwidth for the 4 new hd channels :D

AtlantisMichael
02-24-07, 01:54 PM
I checked with my girlfriend and she said she was getting the digital cable feed, 92.12, FOX Atlanta. By the way, have you had any audio problems with TNT, or any other channels. My girlfriend lost audio on several channels last week and I forgot to ask her if they were working again or not.
Michael

HomieG
02-24-07, 04:09 PM
Working fine for me. Also, I noticed we're losing Weatherscan off of channel 19 at the end of the month, wonder if they're just not mapping it for digital users or if they're taking it off analog completely, that would help explain how we've got the bandwidth for the 4 new hd channels :D

They're pulling Weatherscan off the analog tier.

It will be remain on the digital tier on channel 212.

Wish they would drop some of the shopping channels instead, but alas, they probably get some revenue from them, so it's wishful thinking on my part...

pcgraffy
02-25-07, 05:09 PM
Quick NCAA Tournament question -- I didn't have HD until April of last year -- did I see correctly that the Atlanta CBS station has made 4 HD channels available during the first couple rounds of the tournament so all games will be available?

HomieG
02-25-07, 07:55 PM
Quick NCAA Tournament question -- I didn't have HD until April of last year -- did I see correctly that the Atlanta CBS station has made 4 HD channels available during the first couple rounds of the tournament so all games will be available?

Yes, they did that last year. I watched it OTA. Don't know if Comcast carried that because I didn't use them at that time.

pcgraffy
02-26-07, 09:22 AM
Yes, they did that last year. I watched it OTA. Don't know if Comcast carried that because I didn't use them at that time.

Thanks. I found this link. (http://www.cbs46.com/Global/story.asp?S=3063998) It seems to indicate that if you are a Comcast subscriber with an HD Box, then you got all of the games. Hopefully the same plan will be in effect this year.

km
02-26-07, 10:11 AM
At one time, Comcast played a 10 minute program to help adjust your HD monitor to their STB's. It was on one of the INHD's early Saturday morning. I haven't seen it lately? Does anyone know if its still available?

mrgribbles
02-26-07, 10:26 AM
At one time, Comcast played a 10 minute program to help adjust your HD monitor to their STB's. It was on one of the INHD's early Saturday morning. I haven't seen it lately? Does anyone know if its still available?

Its called TuneUp and its on at 7:am on Sunday morning on Comcast ATL.. I record it so ican twaek @ will. Pretty basic but better'n nothin.

mrgribbles
02-26-07, 10:39 AM
I'm on Comcast in Peachtree City. For a few weeks now I'm getting Macro-Pixelation or tiling, 100% of the time on Ch 895 (StarzHD), randomly on other channels, in the below 100 and above channels. I have a 3416 Motorola box. I have had a half dozen techs out and the last time we (this past Saturday) changed the 3416. No improvement. They all mumble something like "its probably in the street" but then the ball is dropped. One guy even ran a cable from the street box in through the front door to the STB to no avail. All of them say my signal @ the STB is great. The telephone CSRs say they can't schedule street work unless the visiting tech makes the call?? OK, so tech #7 is due out Tuesday.

My question is: I've read a couple of times that some people are dropping the signal strength by adding splitters, etc. Is this a viable fix? Being digital, does does signal strength matter that much as long as the bitstream is coming through? How do I get past the Maginot Line and get to talk to someone who knows something @ Comcast? And of course, any other helpful hints are much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

ChrisHman
02-26-07, 06:30 PM
Thanks. I found this link. (http://www.cbs46.com/Global/story.asp?S=3063998) It seems to indicate that if you are a Comcast subscriber with an HD Box, then you got all of the games. Hopefully the same plan will be in effect this year.

Per an email i sent to WGCL they will be multicasting the tournament once again this year.

HomieG
02-26-07, 06:39 PM
I'm on Comcast in Peachtree City. For a few weeks now I'm getting Macro-Pixelation or tiling, 100% of the time on Ch 895 (StarzHD), randomly on other channels, in the below 100 and above channels. I have a 3416 Motorola box. I have had a half dozen techs out and the last time we (this past Saturday) changed the 3416. No improvement. They all mumble something like "its probably in the street" but then the ball is dropped. One guy even ran a cable from the street box in through the front door to the STB to no avail. All of them say my signal @ the STB is great. The telephone CSRs say they can't schedule street work unless the visiting tech makes the call?? OK, so tech #7 is due out Tuesday.

My question is: I've read a couple of times that some people are dropping the signal strength by adding splitters, etc. Is this a viable fix? Being digital, does does signal strength matter that much as long as the bitstream is coming through? How do I get past the Maginot Line and get to talk to someone who knows something @ Comcast? And of course, any other helpful hints are much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Call Betsy Tyler at PTC City Hall. She's the best conduit to getting Comcast to make stuff right. Trust me, I know. She's great. Explain the problem to her, tell her how many techs have come out, and ask her to get Comcast to fix it. She usually does!

ChrisHman
02-26-07, 09:14 PM
I still cannot find WXIA on my QAM channel listing. 11-1 isnt working and neither is the 108 channel listed elsewhere. Its the only channel i cant find. Vinings headend in Marietta. Thank you.

commodore_dude
02-26-07, 09:41 PM
Hmm, the Hawks game is on 876 in HD, even though it's neither on HD Sports Guide nor in the channel guide... and it's away... I haven't seen an away FSN game on here before, that's a good sign!

pcgraffy
02-26-07, 10:48 PM
Per an email i sent to WGCL they will be multicasting the tournament once again this year.


Thanks. I assume that this will again be available to Comcast subscribers. Though, if it is only available OTA, then that's fine too, just a little bit of a hassle.

mrgribbles
02-27-07, 06:41 AM
Call Betsy Tyler at PTC City Hall. She's the best conduit to getting Comcast to make stuff right. Trust me, I know. She's great. Explain the problem to her, tell her how many techs have come out, and ask her to get Comcast to fix it. She usually does!

Thanks HomieG, I know Betsy. Don't know why I didn't think of it. Thanks again.

schisamo
02-27-07, 09:44 AM
I still cannot find WXIA on my QAM channel listing. 11-1 isnt working and neither is the 108 channel listed elsewhere. Its the only channel i cant find. Vinings headend in Marietta. Thank you.

Chris I gave up trying to locate NBC-HDand just ordered the Digital Basic w/HD package! The funny thing is I requested a non-dvr box with HDMI and the tech gave me a dual tuner HD-DVR! We'll see if I get charged for it on it on the first bill! By the way Discovery HD and ESPN HD are worth the cost of the package alone....

BHP1
02-27-07, 10:35 AM
I think the only HDMI box that Comcast has is the DVR box.

ChrisHman
02-27-07, 11:34 AM
Chris I gave up trying to locate NBC-HDand just ordered the Digital Basic w/HD package! The funny thing is I requested a non-dvr box with HDMI and the tech gave me a dual tuner HD-DVR! We'll see if I get charged for it on it on the first bill! By the way Discovery HD and ESPN HD are worth the cost of the package alone....

Yeah i have a dvr box already in another room and its hard to justify another $10-$15 for a smaller tv in a side room. Perhaps i should just call a CSR and see if thats something they can look up. Because technically if they are required to display it in the clear then it should be public record where its located. Least thats my hope.

pcgraffy
02-27-07, 12:19 PM
This is the email that I received back from CBS-46 about the NCAA Tournament multicast.

CBS 46 will be multicasting the NCAA tournament games on Comcast. The channel numbers are listed below. They will be available to Comcast HD and Digital subscribers. Enjoy the games!





HDTV 46.1 Comcast # 809

SDTV 46.2 Comcast # 811

SDTV 46.3 Comcast # 812



Does this appear to only be 3 HD channels, while 4 games will be going on at the same time? Or am I missing something?

I then asked for clarification and received:

SDTV 46 Comcast # 9 Game #1

HDTV 46.1 Comcast # 809 Game #2

SDTV 46.2 Comcast # 811 Game #3

SDTV 46.3 Comcast # 812 Game #4

JJMiller
02-27-07, 02:32 PM
This is the email that I received back from CBS-46 about the NCAA Tournament multicast.



Does this appear to only be 3 HD channels, while 4 games will be going on at the same time? Or am I missing something?

I then asked for clarification and received:

SDTV 46 Comcast # 9 Game #1

HDTV 46.1 Comcast # 809 Game #2

SDTV 46.2 Comcast # 811 Game #3

SDTV 46.3 Comcast # 812 Game #4
So, only one HD channel, and it's NOT the "feature" game (i.e. the one with local interest) in our area? That's kind of disappointing, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have all the games to choose from. I have a feeling, though, that in most cases, the one I'd prefer to watch in HD will be the one on channel 9.

JJ

pcgraffy
02-27-07, 02:38 PM
So, only one HD channel, and it's NOT the "feature" game (i.e. the one with local interest) in our area? That's kind of disappointing, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have all the games to choose from. I have a feeling, though, that in most cases, the one I'd prefer to watch in HD will be the one on channel 9.

JJ


Can anyone who had Comcast HD service last year confirm that this is correct? I can't believe Comcast would put SD broadcasts on those channels in the 800s, especially since CBS has been clear in saying that all Tournament games will be shot in HD.

AtlantisMichael
02-27-07, 04:10 PM
I still cannot find WXIA on my QAM channel listing. 11-1 isnt working and neither is the 108 channel listed elsewhere. Its the only channel i cant find. Vinings headend in Marietta. Thank you.
Try 108.806, at least that is where we have it in Woodstock. Did you not do a rescan of your cable?
Michael

ChrisHman
02-27-07, 04:50 PM
Can anyone who had Comcast HD service last year confirm that this is correct? I can't believe Comcast would put SD broadcasts on those channels in the 800s, especially since CBS has been clear in saying that all Tournament games will be shot in HD.

WGCL only has 19mb of bandwidth period. Its not physcially possible to put more than 1 HD game up otherwise it would look absolutely terrible. Last year on comcast the opening rounds had 1 analog, 1 hd and 2 digital sd channels. The more digital subchannels they add the worse the signal quality gets so if they made the analog and hd game the same they would have to add another digital sd station. And be prepared for those 2 digital sd channels to look pretty bad if you are watching them on a large television. They limit the bandwidth on those so the HD channel is not signal starved and filled w/ macroblocking. There was debate last year on whether it was worth it to starve the signal by multicasting but I still think this is a rare occassion where cutting the bandwidth is worth it because it provides us opportunities to watch games we wouldnt otherwise be seeing.

ChrisHman
02-27-07, 04:52 PM
Try 108.806, at least that is where we have it in Woodstock. Did you not do a rescan of your cable?
Michael

I tried manually typing in that channel last night and it auto directed me to 46-1, which is cbs. Its a pain to rescan each time as i have to manually turn off about 200 channels that are encrypted. I'm under the impression i can just manually type in a channel number without having to do a rescan. Although im new to QAM technology so maybe im doing it wrong. I will attempt another rescan tonight. Thanks!

AtlantisMichael
02-27-07, 05:10 PM
I tried manually typing in that channel last night and it auto directed me to 46-1, which is cbs. Its a pain to rescan each time as i have to manually turn off about 200 channels that are encrypted. I'm under the impression i can just manually type in a channel number without having to do a rescan. Although im new to QAM technology so maybe im doing it wrong. I will attempt another rescan tonight. Thanks!
How are you connected? Through a stb? with a cc? or just into the set? What type of set? Any splitters?
With the Pioneer Elite, I can not manually tune to a channel that has not been previously scanned in. Not sure why this is. I don't know if there is an option to do this in the menu.
Michael

JJMiller
02-27-07, 05:22 PM
WGCL only has 19mb of bandwidth period. Its not physcially possible to put more than 1 HD game up otherwise it would look absolutely terrible. Last year on comcast the opening rounds had 1 analog, 1 hd and 2 digital sd channels. The more digital subchannels they add the worse the signal quality gets so if they made the analog and hd game the same they would have to add another digital sd station. And be prepared for those 2 digital sd channels to look pretty bad if you are watching them on a large television. They limit the bandwidth on those so the HD channel is not signal starved and filled w/ macroblocking. There was debate last year on whether it was worth it to starve the signal by multicasting but I still think this is a rare occassion where cutting the bandwidth is worth it because it provides us opportunities to watch games we wouldnt otherwise be seeing.
Chris,
Good info, thanks! Do you have any idea if the OTA broadcast had more than one HD game, or is that subject to the same bandwidth limitations as cable? For that matter, given your description of the quality of the other SD Digital broadcasts, do you know if they were any better OTA? Since pcgraffy posted and got me thinking about it, now I'm wondering if I should get an OTA antenna in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks,
JJ

McDonoughDawg
02-27-07, 05:40 PM
I'm fairly sure OTA is limited by the same bandwidth issues.

Also, living in PTC, you guys are correct about the contact at City Hall. I'm just glad to be out of McDonough. :)

AtlantisMichael
02-27-07, 06:28 PM
WGCL only has 19mb of bandwidth period. Its not physcially possible to put more than 1 HD game up otherwise it would look absolutely terrible. Last year on comcast the opening rounds had 1 analog, 1 hd and 2 digital sd channels. The more digital subchannels they add the worse the signal quality gets so if they made the analog and hd game the same they would have to add another digital sd station. And be prepared for those 2 digital sd channels to look pretty bad if you are watching them on a large television. They limit the bandwidth on those so the HD channel is not signal starved and filled w/ macroblocking. There was debate last year on whether it was worth it to starve the signal by multicasting but I still think this is a rare occassion where cutting the bandwidth is worth it because it provides us opportunities to watch games we wouldnt otherwise be seeing.
Were these same games broadcast over the air on WGCLs sub channels as well?
Michael

ChrisHman
02-27-07, 07:14 PM
JJ/Michael,

The 19mb description is for the station itself, not just what it sends to comcast (or charter, or even dish companies). Every broadcast station has roughly 19mb to use, and its up to the engineer to figure out how best to allocate it. For example NBC has a weather subchannel running 24/7, and i believe ABC has a subchannel as well. CBS is the only station i know of that doesnt multicast year round locally. Not suprisingly CBS Atlanta is known as one of the best picture quality stations we have locally. So to answer some questions no OTA wont help get another HD game as it wont be available through WGCL. Also the two SD feeds arent going to look perfect blown up on say a 57" screen, but obviously will be watchable. For those with Direct TV i believe they have a package you can purchase that allows you access to all 4 HD feeds, but its something like $150 on top of the direct tv costs just for the tournament. Obviously those other HD feeds arent coming from our local WGCL, but from a contract Direct TV has with CBS nationally. WGCL is one of the few stations in the nation that provides their consumers these multicast games locally, so for a free option available I for one am very thankful for the opportunity.

ChrisHman
02-27-07, 07:28 PM
How are you connected? Through a stb? with a cc? or just into the set? What type of set? Any splitters?
With the Pioneer Elite, I can not manually tune to a channel that has not been previously scanned in. Not sure why this is. I don't know if there is an option to do this in the menu.
Michael

Hi Michael,

I have a Toshiba 32HL66 hooked up with coax running straight into the set. Its a direct feed from the main splitter the serves the house, so its getting the highest signal possible from the street. I just tried a rescan and neither channel is listed as available. Although my set doesnt recognize channels with a .806 or anything. But 11-1 isnt coming up. When i manually type that in your channel provided it still directs me to 46-1. Again every other channel listed here comes up beautifully. I may try and give a CSR a call tonight.

The future plan is to maybe get another HD box but as mentioned previously we already have a "main hd television" so its hard to justify the extra $15 just for espn/a&e/inhd, etc on a side set. Thanks

commodore_dude
02-27-07, 08:45 PM
Got an email from WATL today, confirming that they will be showing the ACC tournament in HD!

AtlantisMichael
02-27-07, 09:26 PM
Hi Michael,

I have a Toshiba 32HL66 hooked up with coax running straight into the set. Its a direct feed from the main splitter the serves the house, so its getting the highest signal possible from the street. I just tried a rescan and neither channel is listed as available. Although my set doesnt recognize channels with a .806 or anything. But 11-1 isnt coming up. When i manually type that in your channel provided it still directs me to 46-1. Again every other channel listed here comes up beautifully. I may try and give a CSR a call tonight.

The future plan is to maybe get another HD box but as mentioned previously we already have a "main hd television" so its hard to justify the extra $15 just for espn/a&e/inhd, etc on a side set. Thanks
That's really odd. What are the other station channel ID for the local digital feed from your cable? Did the your cable company re-number the digital channels to be the same as the OTA feed? In Woodstock, they are still listed as 92.21 FOX, 98.3 ABC and so forth.
Probably should call and have them check it out.
Michael

lonerebel
03-01-07, 10:34 PM
Lost NBCHD on basic in Woodstock. Channel # 108.806
My Sony with built in QAM says "Not Authorized"
It was working during the 7 o'clock news but after dinner I'm getting nothing.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Mongo16
03-02-07, 10:25 AM
I had the same thing occur with my Sony SXRD and Westinghouse LCD TVs last night. Old Adelphia customer in Forsyth. Did a full scan on the Westinghouse and could not find it. I have not looked for it this morning.

Could it be that they are making more room for the new channels effective on March 6th? WUPA (CW)? Keep us posted on any findings.

Mongo

lonerebel
03-03-07, 10:28 AM
NBCHD is back up as of yesterday evening.

JJMiller
03-06-07, 12:06 PM
Got an email from WATL today, confirming that they will be showing the ACC tournament in HD!
The ACC tournament games are not showing up as HD, neither in the guide from Comcast, nor even on MyATLTv's website. I know R/LF is producing the games in HD, so I can't imagine why WATL wouldn't broadcast HD, but it still just makes me nervous. I hope they don't screw us. I assume that all of the Fri.-Sat. games, which are scheduled to be shown on ESPNHD or ESPN2HD will be blacked out on those channels in this area, as is usually the case when a local affiliate picks it up.

BTW, did anyone catch that the GT-BC game on Sunday was an HD telecast (I saw the highlights on Sportscenter)? I guess we're just screwed because FSN doesn't have an HD channel on Comcast, huh?

commodore_dude
03-06-07, 02:47 PM
Yeah that really annoys me... we do get random Hawks FSN games in HD (home and away) with no advance warning and often not even in the guide... FSN's website is absolutely atrocious for finding any info and I've never received a response from their contact form, so I guess until we get dedicated channels 848/853 we're stuck :(

ChrisHman
03-07-07, 12:10 PM
The ACC tournament games are not showing up as HD, neither in the guide from Comcast, nor even on MyATLTv's website. I know R/LF is producing the games in HD, so I can't imagine why WATL wouldn't broadcast HD, but it still just makes me nervous.

Local promo for ACC tourney on WATL last night stated it would be HD.

JJMiller
03-07-07, 12:54 PM
Local promo for ACC tourney on WATL last night stated it would be HD.
Excellent, thanks for the update. Yeah, after posting that yesterday, I found this great thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652930). It seems like we're in the lucky minority of ACC areas with an affiliate that is actually broadcasting the HD feed from R/LF. With WATL not listing it as HD in their programming info, though, I figured they weren't confident in being able to make it work, and were hedging their bets. I'm glad to know you saw that promo.

JJ

climber109
03-07-07, 04:28 PM
Is anyone getting Discovery-HD over unencrypted QAM?

Mongo16
03-07-07, 09:18 PM
When I was Adelphia, yes I could receive Discovery HD via QAM and it was sweet. On October 31st, Comcast came in and took it off of the "in the clear" channels.

Just started subscribing to the Digital Silver to get Discover HD back and was wondering if anyone else can see the new HD channels that took effect on 3/6? The new channels are NBC/Universal HD, National Geographic HD and A&E HD?

I see them in the program review, but it states that I am not authorized.

Mongo

McDonoughDawg
03-07-07, 09:28 PM
When I was Adelphia, yes I could receive Discovery HD via QAM and it was sweet. On October 31st, Comcast came in and took it off of the "in the clear" channels.

Just started subscribing to the Digital Silver to get Discover HD back and was wondering if anyone else can see the new HD channels that took effect on 3/6? The new channels are NBC/Universal HD, National Geographic HD and A&E HD?

I see them in the program review, but it states that I am not authorized.

Mongo

I thought the new HiDef's were coming online 3/15. Nothing in my guide yet.

Rob-Atl
03-07-07, 09:57 PM
Hi,
My ABC "digital in the clear" is not working on my QAM tuner tonight. Was 2-1 last week. Anyone know if they moved it again? 80-201 is working, but that's not HD.
Thanks.

UPDATE- found it, it's moved back to old place: 98-3

Mongo16
03-08-07, 12:16 PM
The flyer I received in the mail directly from Comcast states March 6, 2007. Have a service call today to see what could be causing problems. Can see the channels in the 200 range, but not authorized. Will keep everyone posted.


Mongo

Milmanias
03-08-07, 12:24 PM
Mongo, does it also show the CW? Should be in ch 810. My flier also stated March 15. Just one week away. :)

Mongo16
03-08-07, 01:14 PM
Mongo, does it also show the CW? Should be in ch 810. My flier also stated March 15. Just one week away. :)

Yeah, I can currently see CW "in the clear" now on Channel 0 on my SXRD. According to the line up, CW is on channel 236 and just tested it with the 8300, it shows up now in my HD lineup. The A&E HD channels are there in the guide, just not authorizing me to view.

Again, I live if Forsyth County and was an old Adelphia customer, so it could be a timing issue. Looking at the flyer right now....2007 Channel Line Up Effective 3/6/07 in light blue. The flyer is a lime green and has the new rates also.

HDTV is on the following Channels:
202 - ESPN HD
203 - ESPN2 HD
204 - TNT HD
205 - Discovery HD
206 - INHD
207 - VSHD
208 - Universal HD
209 - MHD
210 - A&E HD
213 - National Geographic HD
215 - HBO HD


231 - WSB HD
232 - WXIA HD
233 - WGCL HD
236 - WUPA (CW) HD

Bold are the new channels.

FYI WATL is broadcasting the ACC Championship in HD as I type.

Mongo

Milmanias
03-09-07, 10:51 AM
Yeah, I can currently see CW "in the clear" now on Channel 0 on my SXRD. According to the line up, CW is on channel 236 and just tested it with the 8300, it shows up now in my HD lineup. The A&E HD channels are there in the guide, just not authorizing me to view.

Again, I live if Forsyth County and was an old Adelphia customer, so it could be a timing issue. Looking at the flyer right now....2007 Channel Line Up Effective 3/6/07 in light blue. The flyer is a lime green and has the new rates also.

If I understand it correctly, Comcast informed you the new channels would appear on 3/6/07 but only the CW showed up? If so I hope you get the others soon, and I also hope they don't make us wait past the 3/15/06 date for the rest of us.

Tybee
03-09-07, 01:31 PM
Yeah, my flyer (Decatur) said 3/15. Looking forward to it.

tcdesire
03-10-07, 02:03 PM
Hi,
My ABC "digital in the clear" is not working on my QAM tuner tonight. Was 2-1 last week. Anyone know if they moved it again? 80-201 is working, but that's not HD.
Thanks.

UPDATE- found it, it's moved back to old place: 98-3

I am soso pissed!! ar.......
I think FOX which was 5-1 is now back to 92.021

but where is the other such as TBS, myatl?

Can someone list the latest as of 3/8/07 for Comcast/Atl area clear QAM channel

ChrisHman
03-12-07, 01:29 PM
Heads up to those w/ WGCL.

Per my conversation with someone at the station CBS 46 will not be broadcasting the opening round games in HD this year. Last year they had an analog channel, HD channel and 2 SD subchannels giving us all 4 games. The two SD subchannels were extremely bit starved quality wise and the HD channel suffered a fair amount of picture degradation as well. WGCL has decided this year to instead have the analog and three digital SD stations and give ample bandwidth to each station to ensure better quality throughout. This will be for the thursday/friday games. Depending on matchups and gametimes saturday and sunday may be structured a bit different. After sunday we should have HD back up on 46.1.

Although i am dissapointed we will not have a downrezzed HD station this year i do agree that the picture on 46.2 and 46.3 SD stations was pretty much unwatchable last year on any tv above 27". Regardless, i thought i would pass the information along.

Mongo16
03-12-07, 01:30 PM
If I understand it correctly, Comcast informed you the new channels would appear on 3/6/07 but only the CW showed up? If so I hope you get the others soon, and I also hope they don't make us wait past the 3/15/06 date for the rest of us.


Well, the guys came out to see what they could do to fix the problem. They stated that it was in error. The new channels would be on line within a week or two, but more like three weeks. He said that they were having trouble with the feed. Please keep in mind that I am in Adelphia country so it may be different closer to Atlanta.

CW is in HD...on channel 236 for me now. Still can see the other channels in the guide, just not "Authorized".

Mongo

JJMiller
03-12-07, 03:02 PM
Heads up to those w/ WGCL.

Per my conversation with someone at the station CBS 46 will not be broadcasting the opening round games in HD this year. Last year they had an analog channel, HD channel and 2 SD subchannels giving us all 4 games. The two SD subchannels were extremely bit starved quality wise and the HD channel suffered a fair amount of picture degradation as well. WGCL has decided this year to instead have the analog and three digital SD stations and give ample bandwidth to each station to ensure better quality throughout. This will be for the thursday/friday games. Depending on matchups and gametimes saturday and sunday may be structured a bit different. After sunday we should have HD back up on 46.1.

Although i am dissapointed we will not have a downrezzed HD station this year i do agree that the picture on 46.2 and 46.3 SD stations was pretty much unwatchable last year on any tv above 27". Regardless, i thought i would pass the information along.
Thanks for the info, Chris. This is disappointing. Understandable, but disappointing. I got spoiled this weekend flipping between three HD games on CBS, WATL, and ESPN/2. It will be frustrating knowing that all of the games will be shot in HD, but we won't be able to see them in HD.

This is my first year with HDTV, but I know I've seen simultaneous tournament games in HD at a sports bar in the past. I assume they must be available through satellite, huh?

pcgraffy
03-12-07, 03:43 PM
Heads up to those w/ WGCL.

Per my conversation with someone at the station CBS 46 will not be broadcasting the opening round games in HD this year. Last year they had an analog channel, HD channel and 2 SD subchannels giving us all 4 games. The two SD subchannels were extremely bit starved quality wise and the HD channel suffered a fair amount of picture degradation as well. WGCL has decided this year to instead have the analog and three digital SD stations and give ample bandwidth to each station to ensure better quality throughout. This will be for the thursday/friday games. Depending on matchups and gametimes saturday and sunday may be structured a bit different. After sunday we should have HD back up on 46.1.

Although i am dissapointed we will not have a downrezzed HD station this year i do agree that the picture on 46.2 and 46.3 SD stations was pretty much unwatchable last year on any tv above 27". Regardless, i thought i would pass the information along.

Well, this is a change from a couple weeks ago, when I spoke to them, this was their plan:
SDTV 46 Comcast # 9 Game #1

HDTV 46.1 Comcast # 809 Game #2

SDTV 46.2 Comcast # 811 Game #3

SDTV 46.3 Comcast # 812 Game #4

While I'm disappointed that no HD games will be available, I guess having a decent SD picture for 4 games is better than 1 crisp HD picture and 3 unwatchable SD pictures.

The WGCL game schedule for Thursday is up on the site - here. (http://www.cbs46.com/Global/story.asp?S=6199406&nav=menu140_9)

nielloeb
03-13-07, 06:35 AM
From The Associated Press:
Comcast is adding more linear HD channels to its lineup this year, including National Geographic HD, A&E HD and content from its owned networks, Versus and Golf Channel. It also plans to double the amount of HD content available on its video-on-demand platform to over 200 hours this year.

Lissa
03-14-07, 09:54 AM
Hey - has anyone else had a problem with their Comcast HD box (the one without the DVR - not sure the model #) not getting the time change? We have the DVR box and it updated fine, but the plain HD one will not. We've unplugged it to force an update with no luck. Everything else seems to work fine.

I can ignore it for 3 weeks, but I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this.

Milmanias
03-15-07, 08:21 AM
Universal, A&E and NG (HD) channels are up this morning. I could access ch 810 but there was a "not authorized" message. Need to set my DVR for Stargate Atlantis at 10:00 and Firefly at 11:00 tonight.

pcgraffy
03-15-07, 09:15 AM
Universal, A&E and NG (HD) channels are up this morning. I could access ch 810 but there was a "not authorized" message. Need to set my DVR for Stargate Atlantis at 10:00 and Firefly at 11:00 tonight.

810 - CW HD is up now as well.

But, no sign of the multicast channels for the NCAAT - 811 & 812

hartgera
03-15-07, 09:19 AM
I also live in the Forsyth county area in Georgia. All of the new HD channels (A&E, NG, Univ) are working on my cable. They came on yesterday, but INHD is not working now. Anyone else have this situation. It is just a black screen when turned to INHD.

Milmanias
03-15-07, 09:53 AM
810 - CW HD is up now as well.

Sweet. Thanks for the info. I'll get to watch Smallville in HD again :) .

pcgraffy
03-15-07, 10:37 AM
Does anyone see channels 811 or 812 that WGCL claims will be up in time for the basketball multicast? Their website said these channels would be up at 9am.

JJMiller
03-15-07, 11:48 AM
Does anyone see channels 811 or 812 that WGCL claims will be up in time for the basketball multicast? Their website said these channels would be up at 9am.
I'll be home during lunch, hopefully to watch the games. The extra WGCL channels were not there when I left this morning. Hopefully they're up now.

What about QAM? Anyone tried rescanning their QAM tuner and seeing if 46.2 and 46.3 are showing up (not that Comcast will necessarily use those channels)?

ChrisHman
03-15-07, 12:19 PM
I'll be home during lunch, hopefully to watch the games. The extra WGCL channels were not there when I left this morning. Hopefully they're up now.

What about QAM? Anyone tried rescanning their QAM tuner and seeing if 46.2 and 46.3 are showing up (not that Comcast will necessarily use those channels)?

Channels are up on Comcast box. Just did a rescan on QAM and the channels arent 46-2 or 46-3. If anyone finds these channels please post here.

robert_walker
03-15-07, 12:33 PM
mongo16 or QAM users in Forsyth after Comcast's new lineup change,

mongo16 mentioned he is in forsyth county and a former adelphia customer.

I am in same boat but I have basic cable, channels 2-80ish.

Can you tell me what QAMs I should be able to pick up?
(just bought HANNspree Xv 37" but has not arrived)

thanks all

Mongo16
03-15-07, 01:47 PM
Robert,

Here are my channels, but keep in mind that the new CW shows up on channel 0 right now. Will have to do a rescan to see what has changed.

19.1 PBS HD
19.8 CW HD
28.812 CBS SD Feed
92.21 FOX – HD
99.3 ABC – HD
99.10 TBS – HD
101.2 ATL – HD
108.10 CBS – HD
108.30 NBC – HD
116.12 Weather

Yes, A&E HD, NBC HD, and NGHD are up in Forsyth. Not so impressed with these channels yet. Guess I got spoiled with Discovery HD. I have lost INHD for now, hope it comes back soon.

Mongo

McDonoughDawg
03-15-07, 03:20 PM
Robert,

Here are my channels, but keep in mind that the new CW shows up on channel 0 right now. Will have to do a rescan to see what has changed.

19.1 PBS HD
19.8 CW HD
28.812 CBS SD Feed
92.21 FOX – HD
99.3 ABC – HD
99.10 TBS – HD
101.2 ATL – HD
108.10 CBS – HD
108.30 NBC – HD
116.12 Weather

Yes, A&E HD, NBC HD, and NGHD are up in Forsyth. Not so impressed with these channels yet. Guess I got spoiled with Discovery HD. I have lost INHD for now, hope it comes back soon.

Mongo


Good list... INHD fine here in Peachtree City.

I'm glad to have the choices of the new HD channels.

zforce
03-15-07, 05:38 PM
I'll be home during lunch, hopefully to watch the games. The extra WGCL channels were not there when I left this morning. Hopefully they're up now.

What about QAM? Anyone tried rescanning their QAM tuner and seeing if 46.2 and 46.3 are showing up (not that Comcast will necessarily use those channels)?

QAM Channels in Forsyth for Comcast:

0 - cbs46.2
9 - cbs 46
28.812 - cbs 46.3
108.1 - cbs 46.1 (not positive, but the GW-Vandy game is currently on here, which cbs46's website says is on 46.1)

Hope this helps everyone.

HomieG
03-15-07, 07:59 PM
Good to see Comcast come through on time. We've got the Motorola 3412 HD-DVR.

While the new channels are there and working, the actual name of the channel, and the guide, are not populated. The guide info just says "To Be Announced". Anyone else seeing this, or not?

The extra CBS basketball feeds are on channels 811 and 812 (on the DVR, haven't checked on our other TV where we use the QAM tuner).

BMaugans
03-15-07, 08:28 PM
Good to see Comcast come through on time. We've got the Motorola 3412 HD-DVR.

While the new channels are there and working, the actual name of the channel, and the guide, are not populated. The guide info just says "To Be Announced". Anyone else seeing this, or not?

The extra CBS basketball feeds are on channels 811 and 812 (on the DVR, haven't checked on our other TV where we use the QAM tuner).

Same here in Acworth. The channels are all there and working fine, but unlabeled and "TBA" in the program guide.

hdtv_atl
03-15-07, 08:42 PM
Using a QAM tuner (in-town Buckhead area) on the Comcast system, the following channels have been turned on today (3/15):

101-810 WUPA-DT (CW Network)
111-811 WGCL-DT (CBS NCAA 46.2 Feed at 480i SD)
111-812 WGCL-DT (CBS NCAA 46.3 Feed at 480i SD)

Also,
108-10 WGCL-DT (CBS 46.1 Feed at 480i SD during NCAA games)

Does anybody know what DTV channels are carried on Channel 31? It was an analog channel carrying CSPAN2 up until a few weeks ago. I guess it is carrying some of the new HD channels mentioned recently?

Also, channel 19 has been empty the last couple of weeks, but no DTV signal has been found there yet.

Again, this applies to people who are hooked up to the Comcast system in-town in the Buckhead and surrounding area.

ShenLong
03-15-07, 11:21 PM
809, 811, and 812 basketball games are all in SD & not HD for me... is this the same for everyone else?

pcgraffy
03-16-07, 10:16 AM
809, 811, and 812 basketball games are all in SD & not HD for me... is this the same for everyone else?

Yes.

It's a bandwidth issue (of the affiliate).....they decided people would rather have 4 games in SD then 1 game in HD.

buzgz
03-16-07, 12:09 PM
Yes.

It's a bandwidth issue (of the affiliate).....they decided people would rather have 4 games in SD then 1 game in HD.

You may be correct, but I seem to rember that last year some games were HD, others were SD.

robert_walker
03-16-07, 12:15 PM
maybe we can keep a updated list going in this thread, I know I found it very useful,thanks mongo, merging xforce and mongo post,


QAM Channel # / Channel / FEED TYPE
=========================
19.1 / PBS / HD
19.1 / PBS / HD
19.8 / CW(WB/UPN) / HD
28.812 / CBS / SD
108.10 / CBS / HD
92.21 / FOX / HD
99.3 / ABC / HD
99.10 / TBS / HD
101.2 / ATL / HD
108.30 / NBC / HD
116.12 / Weather / SD
???? / INHD / HD


I want to merge this xforce post but not sure if it conflicts
with above info? Anyone? Looks like last 2 below are coverd above but the first two are what?

0 - cbs 46.2
9 - cbs 46
28.812 - cbs 46.3
108.1 - cbs 46.1

mongo, are you saying
1)A&E HD
2)NBC HD
3)NGHD
are availabhle via QAM
for basic cable comcast (formally adelphia subscribers) subscribers in forsyth
but not acceptable signals?

McDonoughDawg
03-16-07, 01:33 PM
809, 811, and 812 basketball games are all in SD & not HD for me... is this the same for everyone else?


Yes, last year, they tried 1 HD and 2 SD, not enough bandwidth to pull it off. Thus they decided to show 3 extra watchable games.

bryan_05
03-16-07, 04:31 PM
I'd rather have 1 in HD than any other combination. Surely they can do that. Zero in HD is bogus!

McDonoughDawg
03-16-07, 06:11 PM
I'd rather have 1 in HD than any other combination. Surely they can do that. Zero in HD is bogus!


I guess we disagree, I would MUCH rather have choices during this part of the tourney than 1 HD game. I'm not too good to watch a game or 4 in SD. I do wish they could stick with the games more than they do, especially, since they are offering all 4 at times. The viewer can decide which one to watch for themselves.

JJMiller
03-17-07, 03:08 PM
What are peoples' thoughts about the PQ of today's HD game. I'm watch Xavier/OSU right now, and it seems like there's a lot of macroblocking (I think that's what I'm seeing) when the camera pans quickly up the court. Seems like way worse than normal (e.g. an HD game on ESPN). There's not even an SD game on the other channels right now. I wonder if it will be worse later in the day. Don't get me wrong; I'm happy to have so-so HD over SD.

jayntguru
03-17-07, 04:31 PM
The PQ on the HD channels for me in Acworth has been pretty bad the past few days, I even get breakups sometimes, which never happened before. My guess is that they wre working out the bugs from adding the new channels. Heck, I only started getting guide data for them yesterday (Friday.)

bryan_05
03-17-07, 08:13 PM
I guess we disagree, I would MUCH rather have choices during this part of the tourney than 1 HD game. I'm not too good to watch a game or 4 in SD. I do wish they could stick with the games more than they do, especially, since they are offering all 4 at times. The viewer can decide which one to watch for themselves.

I'm not too good to watch a game in SD, that's kind of an a-hole comment to make. The SD games have really bad quality on my LCD, it's just annoying. They could at least show one HD game like today.

JJMiller
03-17-07, 09:18 PM
They could at least show one HD game like today.
It's my understanding (not personal experience, as I didn't have an HDTV last year) that the HD game they carried last year suffered significant PQ degradation as a result of the extra SD games. And the two SD games they carried were nearly unwatchable on any TV bigger that 27". Again, that's just what I've read on these forums.

All in all, I think WGCL made a good call showing 4 SD games in the first round. All were reasonable PQ. I think WGCL has done a very good job today, particularly in choosing which game to cover on the HD channel.

405480
03-18-07, 02:28 AM
I really detest the fact that CBS monopolizes the tournament, at least the first two rounds. In a day and age where we have hundreds of channels you'd think that someone like EPSN or ABC could carry half the games and CBS the other half.

I thought the end of the VCU/Pitt game was great but after that we get UNC/MSU halfway through the first half. On top of that CBS was multi-casting the VCU/Pitt game on two channels. Way to go!

HomieG
03-18-07, 08:36 AM
What are peoples' thoughts about the PQ of today's HD game. I'm watch Xavier/OSU right now, and it seems like there's a lot of macroblocking (I think that's what I'm seeing) when the camera pans quickly up the court. Seems like way worse than normal (e.g. an HD game on ESPN). There's not even an SD game on the other channels right now. I wonder if it will be worse later in the day. Don't get me wrong; I'm happy to have so-so HD over SD.

Yep, saw that macroblocking down here on the Southside too. Overall the PQ was acceptable, but marginally so. Not that 1080i is particularly good with action anyways, but this particular game did seem worse than others.

nielloeb
03-18-07, 10:29 AM
I really detest the fact that CBS monopolizes the tournament, at least the first two rounds. In a day and age where we have hundreds of channels you'd think that someone like EPSN or ABC could carry half the games and CBS the other half.

CBS offered the NCAA the most money. Therefore, they have exclusive rights. If ABC had offered the most money, you would see games there and on ESPN, since ABC owns ESPN. If NBC had done the same, you might see games also on MSNBC and CNBC and even Universal.

McDonoughDawg
03-18-07, 01:02 PM
I'm not too good to watch a game in SD, that's kind of an a-hole comment to make. The SD games have really bad quality on my LCD, it's just annoying. They could at least show one HD game like today.


Been out of town a day or so. I didn't mean to sound that way. The reason they can show HD now is the lack of games available. UT/VA on now and it's HD, but it's the only game in progress.

The games didn't look bad at all on my vizio plasma. It does a much better job than my old rear projector HD tv did.

bryan_05
03-18-07, 03:38 PM
Anyone else have problems with their Comcast box randomly resetting?

405480
03-18-07, 04:56 PM
CBS offered the NCAA the most money. Therefore, they have exclusive rights. If ABC had offered the most money, you would see games there and on ESPN, since ABC owns ESPN. If NBC had done the same, you might see games also on MSNBC and CNBC and even Universal.

Since they offered the most money the least they could do is give us more HD. According to the WGCL site we only get 1 game today in HD, the VA/Tenn game. You have two pretty good games in USC/Texas and especially Kansas/Kentucky. Why don't they pick one of those for HD?

pcgraffy
03-18-07, 06:41 PM
Since they offered the most money the least they could do is give us more HD. According to the WGCL site we only get 1 game today in HD, the VA/Tenn game. You have two pretty good games in USC/Texas and especially Kansas/Kentucky. Why don't they pick one of those for HD?


CBS is producing all of the games in HD. There is not a local affiliate in the country that could show 4 HD games at one time. The only way that is possible (at this point) is via the dish.

Tybee
03-19-07, 01:33 PM
Since they offered the most money the least they could do is give us more HD. According to the WGCL site we only get 1 game today in HD, the VA/Tenn game. You have two pretty good games in USC/Texas and especially Kansas/Kentucky. Why don't they pick one of those for HD?

Well, as it turned out, neither of those was a very good game after all, so you didn't miss much. ;)

405480
03-19-07, 05:00 PM
Well, as it turned out, neither of those was a very good game after all, so you didn't miss much. ;)

Sometimes it's nice to see Kentucky lose in HD though :p

hdtv_atl
03-21-07, 12:54 PM
Comcast Test Channel?

I'm on the Comcast system in the Buckhead area in-town and I am able to receive an odd, what appears to be, Comcast test channel on 100-499 (QAM). It is carrying an off the air analog feed of WSB-TV Ch. 2 (complete with some ghosting in the picture). Anybody knows what it is for or does it appear on any other systems in the area?

What is odd about it is that I can only pick it up with my Samsung DTB-H260F HDTV tuner box. My other devices that have QAM tuners, LG LST-3410A or Sceptre X42GV-Komodo LCD HDTV, can not receive this channel (it comes up as encrypted).

- HS

Mongo16
03-21-07, 08:43 PM
Anybody having trouble with ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD with their tuners today? Mine is breaking up pretty bad and I can not watch it at all. Good news is that wanted to watch the new National Geographic channel tonight on Roswell, NM.

Robert,

1)A&E HD
2)NBC HD
3)NGHD

These channels ARE NOT viewed through the QAM. You will need an HD box to view these channels. Again Forsyth area.

Mongo

GCocks
03-21-07, 11:16 PM
Anyone else have problems with their Comcast box randomly resetting?

All of our HD-DVRs in the house have been resetting and displaying EAS on the channel/clock display on the box.

I am not sure what is causing this or why. Anyone else experiencing this?

jayntguru
03-22-07, 09:22 AM
That's the emergency responce thing. Mine do it about 11:30 every other night now. Maddening.

ShenLong
03-22-07, 01:00 PM
That's the emergency responce thing. Mine do it about 11:30 every other night now. Maddening.

Yup, I remember watching a good game one time & it was near the end of a overtime or something and that came on..... game was over when it came out of the emergency thing.... I don't know why they can't test it out at 3am, when nothing's on & everyone's sleeping.

robert_walker
03-23-07, 11:47 PM
help. it is friday night and I am trying to find cbs HD via qam
i can find fox, abc, pbs, tbs
I am entering this for SD and see it
28.812 / CBS / SD
but cannot find
108.10 / CBS / HD
I get "does not exist"

this is comcast in forsyth county GA
maybe I need to call them

holimont
03-25-07, 08:20 PM
Every week or two my box resets and wipes out the recorded shows and the programming. I'm going to see if I can swap it out Tuesday.

jeff.hyde1
03-27-07, 01:13 PM
Hey all I am new to GA. I am from boston and now live in newnan ga and there is no thread i can find for that area. i am using newnanutilities and trying to pick up in the clear channels. I do not know the channel numbers and i am looking for help. thank alot for anything you can do.

AtlantisMichael
03-27-07, 01:50 PM
Hey all I am new to GA. I am from boston and now live in newnan ga and there is no thread i can find for that area. i am using newnanutilities and trying to pick up in the clear channels. I do not know the channel numbers and i am looking for help. thank alot for anything you can do.
Hi Jeff,
Are you looking for the over the air channels or cable? Check antennaweb.org for all the local channels in your area. It will show both analog and digital channels. If you want the OTA forum fot this area, it is listed under Atlanta,GA-OTA-AVS Forum.
Michael

jeff.hyde1
03-27-07, 01:54 PM
No, I am looking for the QAM in the clear HD channel line up. IE in boston at one time cbshd was 107.1. i am looking for those channels.

AtlantisMichael
03-27-07, 03:08 PM
No, I am looking for the QAM in the clear HD channel line up. IE in boston at one time cbshd was 107.1. i am looking for those channels.
You will have to do a scan of the cable in order to see what you have. All the digital channels ( on basic cable without a box or cable card) will be in the 80 plus range of channel numbers. Does your tuner not display all the scanned channels? This is the only way to get them to show up (digital channels, that is).
If you have not run a scan for the digital channels, then you will not be able to tune them in manually ( unless they happen to be the exact same as what you had in Boston).
Michael

pcgraffy
03-30-07, 02:30 PM
Anyone know if Channel 755 will be up and running tonight for the braves game at Turner Field on SportSouth?

Tybee
04-02-07, 08:04 PM
Anybody else getting horrible breakup on the HD channels right now? Most SD channels seem okay, but the HD channels are unwatchable.

Good thing I have a lot backlogged on the DVR and can watch the NCAA final OTA.

tcdesire
04-03-07, 11:49 PM
Anybody else getting horrible breakup on the HD channels right now? Most SD channels seem okay, but the HD channels are unwatchable.

Good thing I have a lot backlogged on the DVR and can watch the NCAA final OTA.

Yeah, my ABC and WTBS have poor signal quality recently( last week), no idea why or what is going on.
I use Gwin Comcast cable

Mongo16
04-05-07, 11:43 AM
Fox (92.1) and WATL (101.2) have been killing me lately with weak signals here in Forsyth. Not that I watch WATL all the time, but FOX with House and other programs are a MUST.

Mongo

jbgster
04-07-07, 11:55 AM
my tbs-hd 98-10 and abc-hd 98-3 cut have had poor signal quality for months. i'm in midtown, using basic cable and qam with lg tuner. will uhd or inhd or dhd ever be available qam? i've already given up on getting tnt-hd or espn-hd via qam, though it sure would be nice.

troll565
04-07-07, 02:30 PM
Anyone's HBO-HD not working (Ch. 880)?

Milmanias
04-07-07, 08:01 PM
will uhd or inhd or dhd ever be available qam? i've already given up on getting tnt-hd or espn-hd via qam, though it sure would be nice.

Don't count on it. They want people to get the digital tiers so they will remain scrambled.

I'm going to downgrade (the recent pay increase took me over what I'm willing to pay for cable) so I will miss UHD, DiscoveryHDTheater and NGHD. ESPN will only hurt once NFL starts.

pcgraffy
04-08-07, 07:55 AM
Here's some bad news from a TBS rep:

Our deal with Comcast has expired so unfortunately our 70 Braves games will not be shown in HD this year.[I]

McDonoughDawg
04-08-07, 10:52 AM
Anyone's HBO-HD not working (Ch. 880)?

It's out where I'm at too. Peachtree City. They need to get it working.

commodore_dude
04-08-07, 01:32 PM
Here's some bad news from a TBS rep:

So basically 807 is a complete waste of bandwidth now... I guess they're not HD OTA either? Pretty ridiculous that the Yankees and Red Sox can get every game in HD and we can only get FSN/SportSouth home games...

troll565
04-08-07, 07:35 PM
It's out where I'm at too. Peachtree City. They need to get it working.

I'm in the Highlands. It's coming in now but it's tiling.

HomieG
04-08-07, 07:51 PM
It's out where I'm at too. Peachtree City. They need to get it working.

Yep, I'm in PTC too. No HBO-HD (Channel 880). Great. Not! Sopranos premier of the final-final season at 9p tonite. Called Comcrap up. At first they had no idea (so they say) it was out. But I did get a call back after about 15 minutes saying it was out, and not going to be up by 9pm.

Let's see, I pay extra for HBO and extra for HD. This is the first season I'll be able to watch it in HD. Ain't gonna happen tonite. If Comcrap wants to play in the big leagues, they ought to act like it. From the postings here, apparently it's been out since at least yesterday. Do they not dispatch technicians/engineers on weekends? Have they no spare equipment? They're still a bush league company, charging more and more every year.

Not getting HBO in HD on a major premier night is ridiculous. Call them up, make them give you a credit. Isn't going to be much, but maybe some day they'll wake up to the fact that they need to do better with their service.

I'd say it was disappointing, but that's not good enough. I think their phone lines are going to be slammed tonite at around 9pm in the Atlanta area. Call up their headquarters and complain tomorrow. 215-665-1700. Ask for Brian Roberts office. Ask them for the reason it was down for two days and what they're going to do to provide better monitoring and service in the future. Ask them for a credit, both for the HD service and the HBO service.

Comcrap remains a bunch of idiots running an overpriced, bush league service. Gawd I wish PTC would can them and bring in a real cable service. But no, they continue to renew their franchise, even though the complaints on file grow every year. And PTC enforcement won't even enforce the rules of their franchise agreement 'cause some judge with no gonads keeps refusing to enforce the fines against Comcrap. Amazing, we all lose.

HomieG
04-08-07, 08:06 PM
So basically 807 is a complete waste of bandwidth now... I guess they're not HD OTA either? Pretty ridiculous that the Yankees and Red Sox can get every game in HD and we can only get FSN/SportSouth home games...

I think that agreement had to do with Comcast carrying the non-WTBS home games in HD on Channel 755.

For a couple of weeks last year, WTBS was in HD, and IIRC, the home games on WTBS were in HD. But I could be wrong...memory isn't that great sometimes...

pcgraffy
04-09-07, 09:08 AM
I think that agreement had to do with Comcast carrying the non-WTBS home games in HD on Channel 755.

For a couple of weeks last year, WTBS was in HD, and IIRC, the home games on WTBS were in HD. But I could be wrong...memory isn't that great sometimes...

Comcast will still have non-TBS home games in HD on channel 755. The home games on WTBS will no longer be broadcast in HD on channel 807 -- I'm not sure if they will be in HD on WTBS OTA.

km
04-09-07, 09:23 AM
Comcast will still have non-TBS home games in HD on channel 755. The home games on WTBS will no longer be broadcast in HD on channel 807 -- I'm not sure if they will be in HD on WTBS OTA.

The first 2 TBS games were not in HD on their OTA digital channel. Were they last year? I didn't have an ATSC tuner then.

McDonoughDawg
04-09-07, 10:51 AM
The first 2 TBS games were not in HD on their OTA digital channel. Were they last year? I didn't have an ATSC tuner then.

Yes, last year all home games on TBS were HD. OTA and on Comcast 807. Comcast just passes on what TBS sends OTA on 807 anyways. And like others have said, NO HD whatsoever now on TBS, period, that we can find.


Time Warner hasn't cared about this team in years.

ChrisHman
04-09-07, 08:28 PM
Okay i need some help with this whole QAM thing. I bought a Toshiba 32-HL66 about 3-4 weeks ago. Came home hooked it up directly into my coax and did a scan. It found about 200 channels. I manually went through them and figured out which 100 or so were not encrypted. Initially all the HD channels were in the 90-x and 10x-x numbers. I see a lot of posts around here with QAM numbers of 108-230 or 110-809. None of my QAM channels go up that high. Just 108-(1-10) etc. Comcast (vinings headend) tends to apparantly change these channels weekly. It literally changes 3-4 times since ive bought this set. Last night i scanned and wrote down all channels. They were as follows:
92-1 fox
98-2 abc
108-1 cbs
108-2 nbc
101-2 My ATL
101-3 CW
111-2 Bravesvision

Today i went to those channels and all of a sudden 92-1 redirected me to 5-1. This is what it was 2 weeks ago but wasnt coming up till today. 92-1 then promptly vanished and all i have is 5-1. Same thing happened for abc. NBC has now completely vanished. 108-2 isnt an option and 11-1 isnt coming up on a rescan and when i type 108-2 it just redirects me to 46-1 (cbs hd). Are my symptoms at all similar with other peoples? Is Toshiba's QAM encoding just awful? Please help as i am becoming increasingly frustrated.

McDonoughDawg
04-10-07, 04:08 PM
Yep, I'm in PTC too. No HBO-HD (Channel 880). Great. Not! Sopranos premier of the final-final season at 9p tonite. Called Comcrap up. At first they had no idea (so they say) it was out. But I did get a call back after about 15 minutes saying it was out, and not going to be up by 9pm.

Let's see, I pay extra for HBO and extra for HD. This is the first season I'll be able to watch it in HD. Ain't gonna happen tonite. If Comcrap wants to play in the big leagues, they ought to act like it. From the postings here, apparently it's been out since at least yesterday. Do they not dispatch technicians/engineers on weekends? Have they no spare equipment? They're still a bush league company, charging more and more every year.

Not getting HBO in HD on a major premier night is ridiculous. Call them up, make them give you a credit. Isn't going to be much, but maybe some day they'll wake up to the fact that they need to do better with their service.

I'd say it was disappointing, but that's not good enough. I think their phone lines are going to be slammed tonite at around 9pm in the Atlanta area. Call up their headquarters and complain tomorrow. 215-665-1700. Ask for Brian Roberts office. Ask them for the reason it was down for two days and what they're going to do to provide better monitoring and service in the future. Ask them for a credit, both for the HD service and the HBO service.

Comcrap remains a bunch of idiots running an overpriced, bush league service. Gawd I wish PTC would can them and bring in a real cable service. But no, they continue to renew their franchise, even though the complaints on file grow every year. And PTC enforcement won't even enforce the rules of their franchise agreement 'cause some judge with no gonads keeps refusing to enforce the fines against Comcrap. Amazing, we all lose.


Did you call them?

It's working now, only a day or so late.

troll565
04-10-07, 04:48 PM
Where are you guys at that were/are having the HBO-HD problems? I have had problems with this channel on and off since moving here in August. I live in town, in the Highlands and I think I'm getting interference from the WSB TV antenna which is about 1/4 mile away. I had another tech out here today and, once again, all my signals were fine and he was perplexed as to why it was tiling still. He was willing to listen to my theory and took down all the info I had researched.

Basically, HBO-HD uses frequency 627.000Mhz. The frequency range of the WSB-DT Channel coming from that antenna is 623-626.000Mhz.

There has got to be a weakness in the line somewhere outside that is allowing that interference to filter in.

HomieG
04-10-07, 07:29 PM
Did you call them?

It's working now, only a day or so late.

Yea, I called them. It was working on Monday. I suppose they don't work to fix anything less than a major power outage if it occurs over the weekend. Still bush league, but nowhere else to turn to.

McDonoughDawg
04-10-07, 07:39 PM
So we are no Braves at all in HD this year? Talk about taking a step back. Disappointing to say the least.

commodore_dude
04-10-07, 09:16 PM
FSN and SportSouth home games should still be in HD on 755, we'll find out tomorrow night (or y'all will rather, I'm out of town so report back :D )

cornell
04-10-07, 09:47 PM
So we are no Braves at all in HD this year? Talk about taking a step back. Disappointing to say the least.

How insane...Braves are owned by a media company, Time Warner, and being sold to another, Liberty Media, and they can't show the games in HD on TBS. What a waste of an HD channel...

McDonoughDawg
04-12-07, 09:35 AM
No HD last night that I could find on Comcast. Only the Fox Sports South feed on ch 48. Wow, it's really obvious the Braves ownership could care less. I'll be glad when the sale is final.

JJMiller
04-12-07, 03:59 PM
See this list here (http://www.twcsc.com/AllHosted/DigitalSportsTier/SportsInHD-09-2006.aspx) from TWC listing HD games produced this year by FSN-HD (as opposed to regular FSN). The list is pretty small, mostly Wed. and a couple of Fri. games (there is one game in April missing from this list, I think).

Anyway, I would really hope that these games end up on 755 for us, don't you think?

I'm very disappointed with this turn of events. This is my first year with HDTV. I was loving all of the college hoops in HD, and was really looking forward to my Braves in HD. I knew that Comcast had the Bravesvision channel, so I had just assumed I'd get a large number of HD games. Flipping last night between SD on 48 and HD (Red Sox vs. Mariners) on ESPN2 was REALLY, REALLY painful. God, I've become such an HD snob is such a short time.

pcgraffy
04-12-07, 04:47 PM
See this list here (http://www.twcsc.com/AllHosted/DigitalSportsTier/SportsInHD-09-2006.aspx) from TWC listing HD games produced this year by FSN-HD (as opposed to regular FSN). The list is pretty small, mostly Wed. and a couple of Fri. games (there is one game in April missing from this list, I think).

Anyway, I would really hope that these games end up on 755 for us, don't you think?

I'm very disappointed with this turn of events. This is my first year with HDTV. I was loving all of the college hoops in HD, and was really looking forward to my Braves in HD. I knew that Comcast had the Bravesvision channel, so I had just assumed I'd get a large number of HD games. Flipping last night between SD on 48 and HD (Red Sox vs. Mariners) on ESPN2 was REALLY, REALLY painful. God, I've become such an HD snob is such a short time.

Same thing now listed on atlantabraves.com here. (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=atl)

I hope these games, along with all of the sportsouth home games would end up on 755, but at this point i'm skeptical.

JJMiller
04-12-07, 06:01 PM
Same thing now listed on atlantabraves.com here. (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=atl)

I hope these games, along with all of the sportsouth home games would end up on 755, but at this point i'm skeptical.
Yep, I found that page as well, and matched up the info with the list in the link I provided (I just liked the fact that the TWC site I linked to had the list all in one place).

Yeah, I'm skeptical, too. The guide content for channel 755 is currently empty. Given that there are two sportsouth games and one FSN-HD game upcoming in less than a week, you'd think they'd be in the guide already. I guess we'll know for sure by this time next week.

BTW, is there any reason (other than wishful thinking) to believe that the sportsouth games will even be produced in HD? Trying to find out any info on this "new" fox network is next to impossible; they don't even have a website, from what I can tell. At least with the FSN-HD games, we KNOW there will be an HD production, it's just a matter of whether Comcast is getting it and sending it.

dabassmonkey
04-12-07, 10:08 PM
Yep, I found that page as well, and matched up the info with the list in the link I provided (I just liked the fact that the TWC site I linked to had the list all in one place).

Yeah, I'm skeptical, too. The guide content for channel 755 is currently empty. Given that there are two sportsouth games and one FSN-HD game upcoming in less than a week, you'd think they'd be in the guide already. I guess we'll know for sure by this time next week.

BTW, is there any reason (other than wishful thinking) to believe that the sportsouth games will even be produced in HD? Trying to find out any info on this "new" fox network is next to impossible; they don't even have a website, from what I can tell. At least with the FSN-HD games, we KNOW there will be an HD production, it's just a matter of whether Comcast is getting it and sending it.

Yeah the games are in HD at Turner Field. There's plenty of HDTVs around the stadium especially in the 755 Club and when I'm at games, every single home game is definitely in high def on those screens.

dabassmonkey
04-15-07, 09:14 PM
Well we won't be seeing much of the Braves in HD either OTA or on Comcast. I got an email back from somebody at TBS.

They are not planning on broadcasting over the air HD until DirectTV launches those additional HD Channels in the fall and they start carrying TBS HD.

The reason the Braves are not in HD now is their deal with Comcast Ch. 755 was not renewed and it was not cost effective to provide HD to just the local ATL market.

cole.clark
04-16-07, 09:28 PM
1 step forward, 10 steps back.

erniegiro
04-16-07, 11:22 PM
Hi guys, anyone know anything about channel 811 that I just noticed popped up on the guide? As on 11PM, showing color bars, but no guide info.

suki84
04-16-07, 11:32 PM
Just curious, does an external (or internal) QAM tuner really work, and what are the channels that I could pickup if I got one - is it worth spending the money, and do you need and HDMI/DVI cable for a correct picture from one?
thanks.

McDonoughDawg
04-17-07, 10:11 AM
Just curious, does an external (or internal) QAM tuner really work, and what are the channels that I could pickup if I got one - is it worth spending the money, and do you need and HDMI/DVI cable for a correct picture from one?
thanks.

Internal QAM tuner gets it's picture from the digital spectrum of the cable. No other hook up but the coax to the TV. My Vizio has the internal QAM and it will pick up all the locals etc. HD and SD feeds. It will not get Espn, Espn2, etc, ie the "pay" HD channels.

I use mine for PIP combined with the cable box.

Milmanias
04-17-07, 10:13 AM
My internaal tuner works great. This is what I get with it (Fayette County)
080-201 WSB (ABC)
080-202 WAGA (Fox)
080-203 WXIA (NBC)
080-204 WTBS
080-205 GPB (PBS)
080-206 WGCL (CBS)
080-207 WUPA (CW)
080-208 WHSG (TBN)
080-209 WPXA (ION)
080-210 WATL (My Network Atlanta)
080-211 WUVG (Univision)
080-212 WPBA (PBS)
081-005 Atlanta Interfaith Broadcasters
081-021 Jewelry Television
081-022 Fayetteville PEG
081-023 Fayette County PEG
081-024 Fayette County School News Service
081-025 Tyrone PEG
081-026 Peachtree City PEG
081-027 TV Guide Channel
081-032 The Weather Channel
085-111 WGN
085-112 WATC
092-021 WAGA (Fox) HD
093-001 Weatherscan
098-003 WSB (ABC) HD
098-010 WTBS HD
101-002 WATL (My Network Atlanta) HD
101-810 WUPA (CW) HD
104-201 C-SPAN
104-202 C-SPAN 2
104-209 HSN
104-210 QVC
104-212 CNN Headline News
108-010 WGCL (CBS) HD
108-030 WXIA (NBC) HD
111-301 Braves HDTV
116-211 NBC Weather Plus

JJMiller
04-17-07, 10:36 AM
Hi guys, anyone know anything about channel 811 that I just noticed popped up on the guide? As on 11PM, showing color bars, but no guide info.
This was one of the extra channels that WGCL used during their NCAA Basketball Tournament multicast, and it just hasn't gone away yet. On my TV, tuning to that channel gets me a green screen, as something with the HDMI/HDCP handshaking gets funked up and requires me to disconnect and reconnect the HDMI cable. It's a pain; I've only done it twice, while channel surfing (usually I'm just using the guide), but I wish they would get rid of it.

erniegiro
04-17-07, 11:33 AM
Thanx JJMiller, I was hoping for something new like maybe 8, or 30, or the national PBS feed in HD...

McDonoughDawg
04-17-07, 02:21 PM
This was one of the extra channels that WGCL used during their NCAA Basketball Tournament multicast, and it just hasn't gone away yet. On my TV, tuning to that channel gets me a green screen, as something with the HDMI/HDCP handshaking gets funked up and requires me to disconnect and reconnect the HDMI cable. It's a pain; I've only done it twice, while channel surfing (usually I'm just using the guide), but I wish they would get rid of it.


In Peachtree City, last night, 811 was the weather channel that CH 11 broadcasts on 211.

Correction, now it says Hawks vs Pacers tonight. Current picture is not in HiDef as it will display on any of my digital boxes. Maybe they are going to use it for various Sports HD.

Well, now they are showing a test pattern. Who knows. I know 811 went away for a while after March Madness was over.

suki84
04-17-07, 02:36 PM
I'm looking at buying an external QAM tuner, and I was wondering if anybody can reccomend any kind/brand of QAM tuner to buy for my lcd tv, and where I could get it from.
thanks.

JJMiller
04-17-07, 02:57 PM
To all following the latest on HD Braves coverage (or lack thereof):

An email from a Comcast Customer Care Specialist confirms that there will be no HD feed of Braves games from FSN in our area. Looks like we're totally SOL from both TBS and Fox. The last line of the short email did say something about Comcast releasing more info about this next week.

JJMiller
04-17-07, 03:09 PM
I'm looking at buying an external QAM tuner, and I was wondering if anybody can reccomend any kind/brand of QAM tuner to buy for my lcd tv, and where I could get it from.
thanks.
There appear to be several forums on this site where you might get good answers to this question; this particular thread about Local Atlanta Comcast issues probably isn't the best place to start. My advice would be to use the search capabilities for "QAM tuner". Also, see if there's a specific owner's thread for your make/model TV, and search that specific thread.

pcgraffy
04-18-07, 02:03 PM
Well we won't be seeing much of the Braves in HD either OTA or on Comcast. I got an email back from somebody at TBS.

They are not planning on broadcasting over the air HD until DirectTV launches those additional HD Channels in the fall and they start carrying TBS HD.

The reason the Braves are not in HD now is their deal with Comcast Ch. 755 was not renewed and it was not cost effective to provide HD to just the local ATL market.

Yep, Channel 755 now says "Bravesvision is no longer available." So, zero games in HD this year - except for a few scattered Fox games (maybe).

Tonights game is listed as FSN South-HD - I wonder if it will show up on 876 like some of the Atlanta Hawks games have.

buzgz
04-18-07, 07:53 PM
Tonights game is listed as FSN South-HD - I wonder if it will show up on 876 like some of the Atlanta Hawks games have.

Looks like Braves on INHD tonight !

km
04-18-07, 11:25 PM
The 9th inning was in SDTV , presumably an error.

pcgraffy
04-19-07, 09:35 AM
Looks like Braves on INHD tonight !

I guess we should be thankful for the 10 or so games that FSN South -HD has planned for us this year, right?

buzgz
04-19-07, 05:23 PM
I guess we should be thankful for the 10 or so games that FSN South -HD has planned for us this year, right?

I hope we're really chapped about how few games are in HD.

Last year, I don't think we would have cared.

cornell
04-19-07, 08:25 PM
Well we won't be seeing much of the Braves in HD either OTA or on Comcast. I got an email back from somebody at TBS.

They are not planning on broadcasting over the air HD until DirectTV launches those additional HD Channels in the fall and they start carrying TBS HD.



Does that not seem odd to anyone? Last year they had games in HD on TBS and now they stop until DirectTV launched TBS HD...Did DirectTV pay them to stop producing the Braves in HD until they launch the channel??

On another note the games last year on 755 had the best PQ I have seen from any live event and it is a shame it has gone away.

dabassmonkey
04-20-07, 09:39 AM
Does that not seem odd to anyone? Last year they had games in HD on TBS and now they stop until DirectTV launched TBS HD...Did DirectTV pay them to stop producing the Braves in HD until they launch the channel??

On another note the games last year on 755 had the best PQ I have seen from any live event and it is a shame it has gone away.

I don't think it has to with DirecTV, I think it more has to do with Comcast and TBS not agreeing to a new contract with channel 755.

pcgraffy
04-20-07, 01:40 PM
I don't think it has to with DirecTV, I think it more has to do with Comcast and TBS not agreeing to a new contract with channel 755.

TBS games were never on channel 755. Last year only Turner South home games were on channel 755.

HomieG
04-20-07, 03:35 PM
TBS games were never on channel 755. Last year only Turner South home games were on channel 755.

I think the production company was still TBS and Comcast contracted with them to produce the games for 755. No contract now, hence no games in HD. The contract probably also underwrote the cost of the HD production for the games on WTBS as well. Obviously neither company gives a crap about the customers.

buzgz
04-20-07, 07:41 PM
On another note the games last year on 755 had the best PQ I have seen from any live event and it is a shame it has gone away.

I agree !!! The PQ on 755 last year was the best of the best. I think it was even better than the Masters Golf broadcast.

For pre-recorded programs, HD 1080i of IMAX movies seem the best.

Does anyone know why 755 Braves was so great last year ?

HomieG
04-20-07, 08:47 PM
I agree !!! The PQ on 755 last year was the best of the best. I think it was even better than the Masters Golf broadcast.

For pre-recorded programs, HD 1080i of IMAX movies seem the best.

Does anyone know why 755 Braves was so great last year ?

I suspect that Comcast was getting a direct fiber feed to their 755 QAM modulator, rather than decoding/transcoding the ATSC OTA signal to QAM. Just a guess.

litz
04-21-07, 10:51 PM
Anyone in the Vinings/Marietta running into glitching, dropouts, and other corrupted data issues?

I'm having MASSIVE problems with all channels, both through the cable box, a MyHD MDP-130, and an Airstar HD-5000. Happens on all channels, SD and HD, and across all the different tuners, and outlets in the apartment.

Calls to comcast have been totally ineffective, esp. when I told them I was having issues with equipment that was directly connected (no cable box) .... which was my response when they told me no service without a cable box swap.

In short, I need them to fix a problem in the line, and not have to take an entire day off work (which I don't have time to do ATM due to workload) for a technician to do an unneeded box swap, I call back in with the same problem, they swap a 2nd box (requiring yet another day off work), and so forth until they finally give up and fix the line issue.

Anyone have any ideas or contacts within the hierarchy to bypass this expected 2-3 week runaround?

thx

- litz

tikyle
04-23-07, 03:35 PM
Is anyone here having issues with the QAM HD channels from Comcast? I had serious break up and pixelation during the Lakers v Suns game on ABC HD yesterday afternoon. Overall my QAM signal has been average at best. I didn't know whether it was an amplification issue or just an overall service issue.

Any other QAM users here that need amplifiers to get their signal strength up to par?

jbgster
04-23-07, 07:12 PM
Is anyone here having issues with the QAM HD channels from Comcast? I had serious break up and pixelation during the Lakers v Suns game on ABC HD yesterday afternoon. Overall my QAM signal has been average at best. I didn't know whether it was an amplification issue or just an overall service issue.

Any other QAM users here that need amplifiers to get their signal strength up to par?

YES. i have major problems with ABC HD (98-3) and TBS-HD (98-10). Been having that problem for months now, and cannot figure out why because everything else seems to work well. i have comcast basic and live in midtown. does anyone have any ideas, i don't know what to do to eliminate the break up and pixelation problems on these two channels. any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially since it is now time for nba playoffs.

Ceej42
04-24-07, 12:19 AM
Forgive me if this has been brought up before, but I searched the thread and couldn't find anything like it.

I've been watching NBC-HD via Comcast in Gwinnett. For several months, the audio on the NBC-HD broadcast is in really bad shape... the best I can describe it is that it sounds "hollow." I can switch back and forth between the standard def feed and the HD feed and hear a measurable difference. I just use the standard stereo speakers on my HDTV, with no equalizer or amplifier. The problem only happens on the NBC feed... all other networks seem fine.

Does anyone else experience this, and is there a fix? I'd try calling Comcast, but I have a feeling I'd be wasting my time.

Thanks for any advice.

-cj

tikyle
04-24-07, 07:53 AM
YES. i have major problems with ABC HD (98-3) and TBS-HD (98-10). Been having that problem for months now, and cannot figure out why because everything else seems to work well. i have comcast basic and live in midtown. does anyone have any ideas, i don't know what to do to eliminate the break up and pixelation problems on these two channels. any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially since it is now time for nba playoffs.


I thought I was the only one. I got my amplifier working now but still no ABC-HD. My QAM tuner has totally skipped over where the channel used to be (98-1). This is really annoying. I need this channel for Saturday and Comcast is lacking. Do the Comcast reps even know about QAM? I've never complained about it but if they have no idea what it is then it's pointless.

Tybee
04-24-07, 10:40 AM
I don't think it has to with DirecTV, I think it more has to do with Comcast and TBS not agreeing to a new contract with channel 755.

I blame Barry Bonds. ;)

bryansj
04-24-07, 12:15 PM
Forgive me if this has been brought up before, but I searched the thread and couldn't find anything like it.

I've been watching NBC-HD via Comcast in Gwinnett. For several months, the audio on the NBC-HD broadcast is in really bad shape... the best I can describe it is that it sounds "hollow." I can switch back and forth between the standard def feed and the HD feed and hear a measurable difference. I just use the standard stereo speakers on my HDTV, with no equalizer or amplifier. The problem only happens on the NBC feed... all other networks seem fine.

Does anyone else experience this, and is there a fix? I'd try calling Comcast, but I have a feeling I'd be wasting my time.

Thanks for any advice.

-cj

I noticed that last night watching Heroes. The DD5.1 feed sounded screwed up like my stereo was poorly calibrated and the center speaker was going bad. I switched my Harmon Kardon receiver to Logic 7 surround mode and it sounded fine. I didn't try to troubleshoot after that. If I think about it this evening I'll check out that channel and see if I still have an issue.

This is in Kennesaw...

oleus
04-24-07, 12:52 PM
TBS games were never on channel 755. Last year only Turner South home games were on channel 755.

looks like all we will have in HD this year are Wednesday home games on the INHD channel (sports south HD will pre-empt INHD here in ATL). Last week it looked pretty good, 720p, but overall the quality of the broadcast was nowhere near as good as tha of the HD TBS/TSouth games from last year (for instance, there was a no hitter going on in Chicago and they never even mentioned it)....it's a shame. that was some of the best looking HD i have ever seen, to boot.....

what a joke......as most teams are starting up their HD broadcasts across the country, The Braves/TBS/Comcast scale it back. typical....

oleus

commodore_dude
04-24-07, 02:10 PM
Something interesting I noticed about the SD SportSouth broadcast last night... At times there were stats being displayed in the upper left corner that were off the screen, implying they were positioned for 16x9. The game was shown in HD on FSN Florida, so that says to me that the two networks were sharing a lot of stuff. So why the hell can't we get it in HD? I would really like to find some contact info for SportSouth so I could ask what idiot decided that even though they're using the same crews for FSN South, even the SS home games can't be in HD...

oleus
04-24-07, 03:45 PM
Something interesting I noticed about the SD SportSouth broadcast last night... At times there were stats being displayed in the upper left corner that were off the screen, implying they were positioned for 16x9. The game was shown in HD on FSN Florida, so that says to me that the two networks were sharing a lot of stuff. So why the hell can't we get it in HD? I would really like to find some contact info for SportSouth so I could ask what idiot decided that even though they're using the same crews for FSN South, even the SS home games can't be in HD...

what's even worse is that all of the TBS games are shot in HD and the satellite truck is a full-service HD facility. and we see ZERO of that on our end.

dabassmonkey
04-24-07, 04:31 PM
what's even worse is that all of the TBS games are shot in HD and the satellite truck is a full-service HD facility. and we see ZERO of that on our end.

Any home Braves game is shot in entirely HD. All the HDTVs in the stadium, not to mention the replays shown of plays on that ridiculously big scoreboard in centerfield are in HD.

A little frustrating sitting at home sometimes...

oleus
04-24-07, 04:37 PM
Any home Braves game is shot in entirely HD. All the HDTVs in the stadium, not to mention the replays shown of plays on that ridiculously big scoreboard in centerfield are in HD.

A little frustrating sitting at home sometimes...

this is such a joke...couldn't they just press a button and output in 16:9 HD on the digital TBS channel? why does comcast ch. 755 have anything to do with this now that turner south is no more????

pcgraffy
04-24-07, 08:56 PM
looks like all we will have in HD this year are Wednesday home games on the INHD channel (sports south HD will pre-empt INHD here in ATL). Last week it looked pretty good, 720p, but overall the quality of the broadcast was nowhere near as good as tha of the HD TBS/TSouth games from last year (for instance, there was a no hitter going on in Chicago and they never even mentioned it)....it's a shame. that was some of the best looking HD i have ever seen, to boot.....

what a joke......as most teams are starting up their HD broadcasts across the country, The Braves/TBS/Comcast scale it back. typical....

oleus

There is a list of the games on atlantabraves.com that will be on FSN-HD. There are about 10 games on the list, mostly wednesdays, and all home games except for one game in Florida.

pcgraffy
04-26-07, 08:06 PM
I wish Comcast would make up their mind on what to do with Channel 755. Just tuned to it at 8pm on Thursday, and instead of saying "Bravesvision not Available" it says "Bravesvision HD - 37 HD Home Games - FSN South & Sports South"

If I believed it, then it would obviously be good news, but I'll believe it when I see it.

JJMiller
04-27-07, 01:44 PM
I wish Comcast would make up their mind on what to do with Channel 755. Just tuned to it at 8pm on Thursday, and instead of saying "Bravesvision not Available" it says "Bravesvision HD - 37 HD Home Games - FSN South & Sports South"

If I believed it, then it would obviously be good news, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Darn it! I'd hate to get my hopes up, just to be disappointed.

Still, it has to be good news. Given the frustration of many of their customers (I mean, there has to be more out there than just the few of us bitching on these boards, right?), that would be REALLY stupid of them to put that message up and then not deliver. The specific details of the message also would seem to hint at legitimacy. Maybe Comcast has realized they have some unhappy campers and have been trying to do SOMETHING about it.

whodean
04-28-07, 12:52 AM
For anyone in Atlanta with Comcast Motorola 3412 or 3416 DVR boxes, does anyone have firmware 16.35 that allows you to use a receiver with HDMI switching yet?

commodore_dude
04-29-07, 09:56 AM
As was posted in the OTA thread (dunno why):


HD Braves on the way
About half of the Braves games to be televised this season on Fox-owned regional cable networks SportSouth and FSN South will also be available on high-definition channels.

Twenty-five SportSouth telecasts of Braves games — starting with Monday's against the Phillies — will be simulcast on high-definition channels, including Comcast channel 755 in Atlanta.

And 12 FSN South telecasts of Braves games — including Wednesday's against the Phillies — will be offered on high-def channels, including Comcast channel 755 here.

All of the high-definition Braves telecasts will be of home games.

None of the 70 Braves games being shown on TBS this season will be available in high definition, a company spokesman said.

From http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2007/04/27/0429sptbiz.html

So... can we expect every home FSN and SS game in HD? I counted on the schedule and that's not quite all of them. Guess we'll find out...

nielloeb
04-29-07, 11:02 AM
So... can we expect every home FSN and SS game in HD? I counted on the schedule and that's not quite all of them. Guess we'll find out...

I suspect other networks have a few Braves home games, and those are the ones that won't be on 755. However, those networks are HD capable, so we can only hope they will also be HD.

buzgz
04-29-07, 07:47 PM
>>Twenty-five SportSouth telecasts of Braves games — starting with Monday's against the Phillies — will be simulcast on high-definition channels, including Comcast channel 755 in Atlanta.

And 12 FSN South telecasts of Braves games — including Wednesday's against the Phillies — will be offered on high-def channels, including Comcast channel 755 here.

All of the high-definition Braves telecasts will be of home games.<<

All of us old guys liked the shorter season. Now we've got it again.

JJMiller
04-30-07, 10:47 AM
Well, TBS still sucks, but at least now a lot of the games we'll have to watch in SD will be on a digital channel. I don't know about you guys, but on my 56" TV, I could tell a BIG difference in PQ between the games on the crappy analog channels (48 & 53) and the ones on TBS-DT.

oleus
04-30-07, 10:52 AM
is channel 755 still showing the "braves HD is no longer available" message? is this where the game is going to be shown tonight?

pcgraffy
04-30-07, 10:55 AM
is channel 755 still showing the "braves HD is no longer available" message? is this where the game is going to be shown tonight?

The message has changed to "Bravesvision HD - 37 HD Home Games - FSN South & Sports South".

The game is reportedly going to be on 755 tonight, but I'm not holding my breath, given this channel's track record.

oleus
04-30-07, 11:07 AM
The message has changed to "Bravesvision HD - 37 HD Home Games - FSN South & Sports South".

The game is reportedly going to be on 755 tonight, but I'm not holding my breath, given this channel's track record.

what, you don't have faith in comcast?

i agree unfortunately.....i'd actually be a little shocked if we get the game in HD tonight. Hope i'm wrong.

McDonoughDawg
04-30-07, 07:13 PM
No Hd on 755 in Peachtree City. They must be working on it though, because there is NOTHING on 755.

53 was stretched for the 1st half inning. They seemed to have fixed that now in the bottom of the first.

I just checked back, it's working now. Thanks for this Comcast.

commodore_dude
04-30-07, 07:14 PM
Looking good so far... some of the graphics have looked a tad squashed or stretched, and they resized the scoreboard after the first commercial break. I'm watching on a 720p TV, anyone know if it's 720 or 1080 native?

commodore_dude
04-30-07, 07:15 PM
Yikes, don't know why it's not working all over Atlanta... I'm in Norcross.

pcgraffy
04-30-07, 07:29 PM
Yikes, don't know why it's not working all over Atlanta... I'm in Norcross.

not working here in Sandy Springs....it says the channel should be available shortly.

HomieG
04-30-07, 07:49 PM
It's in HD on 755 here at my place in Peachtree City.

dabassmonkey
04-30-07, 08:48 PM
Does anybody know if channel 755 is available through QAM or do I have to have an HD box to get it. I saw people had previously posted BravesVision 755 as being available on a QAM channel but none of those currently work for me.

oleus
04-30-07, 10:44 PM
it was on in Decatur (Stone Mountain headend).....it's 720p native.

Milmanias
05-01-07, 07:33 AM
Does anybody know if channel 755 is available through QAM or do I have to have an HD box to get it. I saw people had previously posted BravesVision 755 as being available on a QAM channel but none of those currently work for me.

IIt's in QAM channel 111-301 in my area.

whodean
05-01-07, 08:57 AM
For anyone in Atlanta with Comcast Motorola 3412 or 3416 DVR boxes, does anyone have firmware 16.35 that allows you to use a receiver with HDMI switching yet?

Bumping this for anyone to respond.

I'll be getting a Sharp LCD and want to only run a HDMI cable to it from my receiver if it is possible. In the past there were problems with the Motorola boxes where HDMI connections wouldn't work right through a receiver. Problem is supposedly fixed with firmware 16.35 on the Motorola 3412/3416 but I still have the old version on my 3412 for now. I will ask Comcast for an updated box if they have ANY that have the new HDMI compliant firmware version...

Thanks!

bryansj
05-01-07, 10:33 AM
Bumping this for anyone to respond.

I'll be getting a Sharp LCD and want to only run a HDMI cable to it from my receiver if it is possible. In the past there were problems with the Motorola boxes where HDMI connections wouldn't work right through a receiver. Problem is supposedly fixed with firmware 16.35 on the Motorola 3412/3416 but I still have the old version on my 3412 for now. I will ask Comcast for an updated box if they have ANY that have the new HDMI compliant firmware version...

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure that the firmware is per area and not per box. I.E. you can't have a different firmware than your neighbor. So it will either work or not.

Maybe you could post to the receiver forum stating your brand of receiver and your concern and you may get a better answer.

whodean
05-01-07, 04:23 PM
Apparently Comcast is rolling out the updated 16.35 firmware for their Motorola 3412/3416 boxes across the nation, I was hoping to get people's experiences in Atlanta as it isn't a receiver issue, its a cablebox issue...

commodore_dude
05-01-07, 09:08 PM
I was under the impression that tonight's game should be in HD as well... no luck here.

pcgraffy
05-02-07, 09:25 AM
I was under the impression that tonight's game should be in HD as well... no luck here.

If you check the full schedule on atlantabraves.com and the game is listed as simply "FSN", then the game will not be on in HD. If it is listed as "FSN-HD", then the game should be on 876.

If it is a home game on Sportsouth, it should be on channel 755.

Of course, this will likely all change within the week since Comcast can't seem to make up their mind here.

oleus
05-02-07, 10:30 AM
last night's game was a home game on Sports South...no HD. was that just a fluke that there was no HD?

pcgraffy
05-02-07, 10:41 AM
last night's game was a home game on Sports South...no HD. was that just a fluke that there was no HD?

I was at the game, so I can't say for sure, but the banners next to the dugout indicated the game was on FSN last night.

commodore_dude
05-02-07, 03:58 PM
Well the one tonight says HD in the guide on the SD FSN South channel... Someone care to explain to me why the same production crew will do Monday and Wednesday night games in HD but not the Tuesday night game? I REALLY hate the lack of information available on FSN South and SportSouth, some FSN networks have their own nice, detailed websites (See fsnbayarea.com or sunsportstv.com)... even CSS has a reasonably informative website even though their programming is poor quality!

slowbiscuit
05-02-07, 07:23 PM
Has anyone figured out why WXIA-HD (NBC) is not available in clear QAM on either 108-30 or 11-1 in all areas? I'm in Austell and get every local but NBC in HD. I've rescanned the digital channels multiple times but no go. ABC, CBS, Fox, and TBS have been remapped to 2-1, 46-1, 5-1, and 17-1 but that's it. I get NBC in SD on 80-203 as posted above, but no HD.

commodore_dude
05-02-07, 07:33 PM
So following up why couldn't they have broadcast in HD last night... I notice that the highlights they're showing now from last night are all HD... what the heck!?

pcgraffy
05-03-07, 02:11 PM
So following up why couldn't they have broadcast in HD last night... I notice that the highlights they're showing now from last night are all HD... what the heck!?

I don't know why they couldn't show Tuesday night's game in HD, while Monday and Wednesday were in HD. That doesn't make any sense, since all 3 were on Fox Networks.

ChrisHman
05-03-07, 03:15 PM
Has anyone figured out why WXIA-HD (NBC) is not available in clear QAM on either 108-30 or 11-1 in all areas? I'm in Austell and get every local but NBC in HD. I've rescanned the digital channels multiple times but no go. ABC, CBS, Fox, and TBS have been remapped to 2-1, 46-1, 5-1, and 17-1 but that's it. I get NBC in SD on 80-203 as posted above, but no HD.

I've had this same problem in the Vinings head end on my Toshiba 32HL66 using its integrated QAM tuner. The only thing i can point to is the fact that 108-1 is CBS and it auto mapped to 46-1 through PSIP. When i manually type in 108-30 it auto directs me to 46-1. I'm wondering if there is some sort of software or hardware bug that if you have two PSIP channels on the same initial channel number (i.e 108-xx) mapping to different stations if maybe the QAM tuner only picks up the first channel (in this case cbs 108-1) and ignores all other subchannels. I have absolutely no proof of that but its the only explanation i can come up with. QAM seems to be such an under the radar thing its hard to get enough people to complain for an answer. I cannot turn off psip auto mapping on my QAM tuner to confirm if this is the problem.

buckloons
05-03-07, 03:27 PM
I don't know why they couldn't show Tuesday night's game in HD, while Monday and Wednesday were in HD. That doesn't make any sense, since all 3 were on Fox Networks.

Latest I've seen is that 25 Sportsouth games will be in HD (don't know which ones but Monday was one of them) & 12 FSN games (mostly the Wednesday home games)

buzgz
05-04-07, 03:04 PM
I noticed that Comcast had an ad saying that viewers found Comcast HD better than satellite HD. I checked out the study, and it seems that in a double blind study, viewers preferred Comcast HD to Dish and Direct HD by about 2 to 1.

Comcast paid for the study (none of the viewers knew this), so Comcast surely knew going in that they had the best HD signal. Obviously, there is a technical explanation for this.

Does anyone know what it is (why Comcast HD is superior to satellite HD) ?

oleus
05-04-07, 03:43 PM
the answer is : less compression.

apparently it's far less compression than DirecTV, a little less than DISH.

of course you still see some macroblocking in some action movies on HBO, etc, but that is more of a source issue than (compression from the source).

buzgz
05-04-07, 04:01 PM
apparently it's far less compression than DirecTV, a little less than DISH.



The score was Comcast 66%, DirectTV 34%, and Comcast 70%, Dish 30%.

So it looks like, if any differences truly exist, Direct TV is better than Dish; however, those differences are probably not significantly different.

greggz
05-04-07, 05:39 PM
I have Comcast and I recently helped a friend setup a new HDTV with Dish and I was shocked how bad Dish looked. :eek: The compression and blocking was very distracting especially on fast paced material like basketball.

HomieG
05-04-07, 06:46 PM
Even the SD looks like crap on DirecTV. Compare SD & HD side-by-side, DirecTV and Comcast. I switched to Comcast. Took about 2 minutes to decide to switch. Given that customer service sucks with both, it was easy to switch. And for less money, I get more channels, including some that are in the digital basic package with Comcast that were premium on DirecTV (Encore, for example). DirecTV got more expensive, and took away their quality advantage as they but more garbage on their birds (like more shopping channels and the mix channels).

DirecTV has crammed so much onto their birds, and they limit HD resolution to 1280 x 1080 too. In fact there is a lawsuit against DirecTV because they market it as full HD. It isn't. And I'd be surprised if it really is even 1280v.

Maybe someday DirecTV will do better and the pendulum will swing back in their favor, but they are behind the 8-ball on bandwidth for now. Personally I think they'll continue to cram more stuff onto their new birds, like HD local-in-locals and HD national networks, and continue to over-do the compression. Time will tell...

dabassmonkey
05-06-07, 05:46 PM
Went to the Braves game today and was in the 755 Club where they have a bunch of 50 to 60 inch plasma high def screens. They had the TBS broadcast on them...but it was in HD.

Certainly a wonderful feeling knowing all these home games are being filmed in HD at the stadium but not being sent out to us.

whodean
05-07-07, 07:23 PM
Channel 755 has a beautiful HD signal for the Braves/Padres tonight.

nhlfan79
05-07-07, 07:32 PM
Anyone know why D* is not broadcasting any of the newly announced HD games on Channel 96? All they're giving us are the Wednesday night FSS home games.

pcgraffy
05-07-07, 10:01 PM
Anyone know why D* is not broadcasting any of the newly announced HD games on Channel 96? All they're giving us are the Wednesday night FSS home games.


I believe it is just a cable agreement - Comcast 755, and in the past I believe TWC has had access, but I'm not sure if it has made it that far this year or not.

cornell
05-07-07, 10:05 PM
Channel 755 has a beautiful HD signal for the Braves/Padres tonight.

Wow you are right but the PQ isn't as good as it was last season for me...so is 755 staying around now?!?

whodean
05-10-07, 09:33 PM
Tonight on my Motorola 3412 DVR I'm recording ESPN and Scrubs on Channel #806 on the two tuners...why is #806 a SD bad quality feed?

commodore_dude
05-11-07, 04:09 PM
Wow you are right but the PQ isn't as good as it was last season for me...so is 755 staying around now?!?

I believe last year the Turner South and TBS HD games were 1080i, vs the 720p FSN South and SportSouth are apparently using this year. Last year's games were definitely the best quality HD sports I've seen...

oleus
05-11-07, 04:30 PM
i don't think it's just the 720p vs 1080i factor, the overall PQ is just bad compared to the TBS games last year.

405480
05-13-07, 06:53 PM
QAM question here.

Anybody tuning locals through QAM have any problems with TBS? Last night right before Lord of the Rings came on it went out. Now it says the channel is not authorized when the TV tries to tune it. All my other QAM channels are working fine. In fact, I thought they may have remapped it so I went looking through the channels and I came across the Red Sox/Orioles game today on NESN.

HomieG
05-13-07, 07:16 PM
QAM question here.

Anybody tuning locals through QAM have any problems with TBS? Last night right before Lord of the Rings came on it went out. Now it says the channel is not authorized when the TV tries to tune it. <snip>

Noticed the same issue here in PTC last night, at about 11pm, no TBS via QAM.

Also, MHD (MTV-HD) is out today (via HD-DVR box).

Dragonfly47
05-15-07, 08:12 PM
A new channel lineup for Stone Mtn appeared today and, yes, it appears there is no more TBS-HD QAM. :(

405480
05-16-07, 03:17 AM
Mine was back on Monday afternoon, same channel 98.10.

Dragonfly47
05-16-07, 09:23 AM
Thanks for the heads-up. My TBS-HD is also back this morning at the usual place.

slowbiscuit
05-17-07, 06:33 PM
Why can't I get all the HD channels that I'm already paying for in SD on digital starter simply by paying the monthly HD add-on fee? If I already get ESPN in SD and add the HD package, why do they only give me the locals in HD? I get the locals in HD for free with clear QAM for crying out loud.

I just found out that the HD DVR (Moto 3416) that I had installed yesterday is no good for ESPN HD etc. unless I pay more money to upgrade to digital basic (another $12 a month for worthless extra SD channels). And nowhere can I see in the 2007 rate schedule that they sent me where they say this - it just says here is the rate for HD and here's the channels that you get in HD as far as I can tell.

I don't get it - if I'm already paying $50 a month for ESPN 1&2, Discovery, etc. in SD and want to add the HD DVR at $12/month, that does NOT give me ESPN 1&2, Discovery, etc. in HD unless I go higher in the SD digital tier (min. $12 more a month). WTF?

AtlantaHDFanatic
05-18-07, 01:34 PM
Reports that areas in the Northeast (Boston and NH at least) have had Food, HGTV, and A&E added today. Lets hope that all the recent activity here with moving channels to digital will clear room so that we get the two we are missing as well.

Hopefully we will get FSN HD sometime soon too. I'm surprised they haven't already added that as part of the sports pack.

FYI, They haven't seemed to be marketing it here yet, but they are now offering bundling prices to current customers. Since I had voice, video, and data I was able to add all the premium channels to my current silver package setup and my price per month went down. Might want to call up and ask if you have all 3 services. Might be a way to get more HD movie channels for little or no cost.

spike jones
05-20-07, 06:32 PM
Considering the deals they are offering from Comcast, I am tempted.... to jump on the pay tv bandwagon. If I had the HD tuner, digital service and HBO would I be able to watch the last season of Rome in HD with On Demand?
thanks

JJMiller
05-21-07, 11:23 AM
Considering the deals they are offering from Comcast, I am tempted.... to jump on the pay tv bandwagon. If I had the HD tuner, digital service and HBO would I be able to watch the last season of Rome in HD with On Demand?
thanks
Spike, The only show currently available On Demand in HD from HBO is The Sopranos. HD On Demand is very cool, but, unfortunately, it's still kind of slim pickings.

spike jones
05-21-07, 11:24 PM
Spike, The only show currently available On Demand in HD from HBO is The Sopranos. HD On Demand is very cool, but, unfortunately, it's still kind of slim pickings.
thanks JJ,
maybe I'll wait till they have more HD...

tikyle
05-22-07, 08:48 AM
Is anyone having QAM problems? For some reason I can only tune in channels 98-1 and 98-2 or all the QAM channels except those two. When I amplify my signal to get those channels in my other channels get pixelated and when I take the amplifier off all the other channels come in but the 98 channels have no signal.

McDonoughDawg
05-22-07, 03:24 PM
Just wanted to thank TBS once more for canning the Braves HD broadcast. Buncha BS in my opinion.

Keep up the good work TBS, you now carry ZERO HD content.