What do they (TBS) have in HD that people want to see?

MLB playoffs for one. I agree though that most of their programming would not be of great interest to me in HD. But when the playoffs were on, it sort of irked me that Inisght did not show the games on the HD Special Programming channel.

I live in LaGrange, KY, and just purchased an indoor HD antenna. I can receive WHAS-DT and WAVE-DT consistently, with 75-80% signal quality. I can also receive WDRB-DT and WMYO-DT intermittently (better during primetime).

My problem is that I am completely unable to receive WLKY-DT at all, which surprises me since WAVE-DT is broadcasting on the same tower. Is anyone else experiencing issues getting WLKY-DT OTA? Is WLKY temporarily broadcasting at a lower power? Any tips?

Thanks for any help!
Jacob

MLB playoffs for one. I agree though that most of their programming would not be of great interest to me in HD. But when the playoffs were on, it sort of irked me that Inisght did not show the games on the HD Special Programming channel.

That is true, but the playoffs are over and the baseball season will not start again for another four or five months.

I live in LaGrange, KY, and just purchased an indoor HD antenna. I can receive WHAS-DT and WAVE-DT consistently, with 75-80% signal quality. I can also receive WDRB-DT and WMYO-DT intermittently (better during primetime).

My problem is that I am completely unable to receive WLKY-DT at all, which surprises me since WAVE-DT is broadcasting on the same tower. Is anyone else experiencing issues getting WLKY-DT OTA? Is WLKY temporarily broadcasting at a lower power? Any tips?

Thanks for any help!
Jacob

WLKY is operating at 600KW, while WAVE and WHAS are at 1000KW. I haven't checked, but it's unlikely WLKY will move away from 600KW.

You need more than an indoor antenna. A short-range directional mounted with a clean line of site to your local horizon should solve your reception issues, unless you have immediate barriers in the direction of the knobs.

Hi there,
I'm new to this OTA hd stuff, was helping for some help. I live in Shelbyville, & I have an HR-20 with a Radioshack antenna (the big one?!) in my attic. I only seem to be able to get WAVE 3 & WLKY 32 to come in. I understand they use the same tower, so I guess that's why I get both of them. I would like to get WHAS 11 & FOX 41 as well, but I haven't been able to pull them in. Do I need an amp or something? I think the towers are in the same area so I think the antenna is pointed in the right direction. Anyway thank for all the info already hear & any further help.

All of the towers are in the knobs, less than 5 degrees of separation from Middletown, even less for Shelbyville.

Don't know what type of antenna you have (UHF + VHF? Yagi? Omni?), so I can't comment on what you can do, but I can tell you that at about 30 miles, a medium range directional mounted ON the roof rather than in the attic should work fine. A small fringe directional in the attic should pull in the stations ok.

Is anyone seeing EPG information? I've only seen EPG information once, for WAVE, I believe. This was several weeks back. I only see the current show listed when I check, and it is not even useful, stating something to the effect of "current programming".

Did anyone get in on the HD-A3 deals this past weekend? I urged my wife to go looking saturday, and she came back empty-handed, then someone posted on AVS that HH Gregg had them for $149 plus 7 movies.

Maybe there will be a re-dux on the 23rd...

Walmart had the HD-A2 on sale last Friday for $99. I grabbed one of those.

Does anyone have a cablecard from Insight in dvr (sony, tivo, lg unit)? I have one in my Sony DHG 250 but can't record digital stations (ESPN HD, Noggin, Bio, etc). It will record the local HD stations. Any ideas?

I guess I'm the only one that still misses The Tube since it went out of business. WAVE still has that weather channel they have on a sub channel. Why all the complaints about sub channels? WAVE look clear to me on OTA with my 2005 Media Center PC.

I guess I'm the only one that still misses The Tube since it went out of business. WAVE still has that weather channel they have on a sub channel. Why all the complaints about sub channels? WAVE look clear to me on OTA with my 2005 Media Center PC.

The effect of the subchannels is painfully obvious on my 65" Toshiba fed by my DirecTV DVR. Video breakup, pixelization, and audio drop-outs are commonplace. The news looks okay for the most part, but the primetime action shows are abysmal.

Dan

The effect of the subchannels is painfully obvious on my 65" Toshiba fed by my DirecTV DVR. Video breakup, pixelization, and audio drop-outs are commonplace. The news looks okay for the most part, but the primetime action shows are abysmal.

Dan


Could not agree more. WAVE just does not care about HD viewers. The GM at one time would answer email now he just ignores it. The engineering department just says they make no money from HD.

The effect of the subchannels is painfully obvious on my 65" Toshiba fed by my DirecTV DVR. Video breakup, pixelization, and audio drop-outs are commonplace. The news looks okay for the most part, but the primetime action shows are abysmal.

Dan

Those are symptoms of signal loss, signal overload, or multipath interference, not reduced resolution or extra compression. I hope people aren't confusing their own antenna issues with the real effect of subchannels. I don't see any of those issues with wave from here unless there is a storm nearby.

Those are symptoms of signal loss, signal overload, or multipath interference, not reduced resolution or extra compression. I hope people aren't confusing their own antenna issues with the real effect of subchannels. I don't see any of those issues with wave from here unless there is a storm nearby.

The point is that people need TV to be plug and play. The local TV stations only want to make money and do not care about the viewer. The do not spend a dime of HD equipment. Last night WAVE continually dropped the HD feed to SD to run a craw that the paper made a mistake about school's. They do not make a dive from a slide on a sub channel that states the music channel is no longer available. Wave would send out a black and white picture of color bars if they thought they could get away with it. There at one time was a line: Broadcast Quality. That does not apply to WAVE anymore. WAVE is not alone but, they lead the parade to mediocre.

Those are symptoms of signal loss, signal overload, or multipath interference, not reduced resolution or extra compression. I hope people aren't confusing their own antenna issues with the real effect of subchannels. I don't see any of those issues with wave from here unless there is a storm nearby.

I have no "antenna issues". Every station comes in crystal clear with next to none of the problems I described *except WAVE-3*.

Are you saying you never see blocking or other negative effects on HD programming from NBC/WAVE? I can understand that some of the problems I described can be due to NBC's poor HD feeds (they're definitely at the bottom of the rung when it comes to HD quality from the major networks), but it stands to reason that subchannels eat bandwidth, and WAVE is sacrificing quality for no good reason.

Dan

Re: WAVE-DT vs. HDTV

The subchannel effect is immediately obvious when comparing WAVE to WLEX ... and you don't even have to A/B ... there is no defense ... but hey, at least they crank up the bass on everything. ;) :D

Wave actually sends out digital dolby audio, Wlex doesn't.

If you are seeing audio dropouts and macroblocking on wave, that is a signal issue. If the picture doesn't look as crisp as you think it should look, or you see motion blur blocking, that is the effect of subchannels.

Wave actually sends out digital dolby audio,

Well the 5.1 light is on anyway ... :D

I am not worried about the splash screen for you-tube's departure. A static screen requires very low bandwidth. A good bit of 3.2 is also static, or near-static, so it is not a major hog. I would prefer to keep 3.2 in the morning. Few HD 'enthusiasts' are seeking the best HD programming at 8-10am, and most of the programming is talk based. Since the weather channel is useless when all you want is to check the weather right before leaving for work, 3.2 fits a niche that is currently void. They should replace the talking head feed with a traffic map, though.

On the flip, few give a rat's patootie about the current temp during prime time. The blather channel cam satisfy the weather freaks, who are only looking for a destruction of the day feed anyway. Wave could switch to a near-static feed of local temps and forecasts swapped every fifteen seconds, and medium-res RADAR map updated once every five minutes. Dump the fade transitions, they consume bandwidth and are annoyingly slow. Dump the unnoticed background graphics, too.

If they would be smart about 3.2 I think they could provide HD content that most of us would be happy with while making 3.2 useful.

They should switch 3.3 to a null if they absolutely must keep the transmitter burning energy. The three people that watched you-tube have finally noticed it is gone, it no longer serves a purpose outside of causing burn-ins for those poor saps whose kids accidentally leave the TV on all night.

I am a novice at this HD stuff, so please bear with me. I have just purchased and installed an HDTV. I have not yet subscribed to digital cable. I hooked up the coax to the tv, and to my suprise, I receive several channels which appear to be HD (3.1, 3.2, 15.1, 15.2, 15.3, and others which I can't remember offhand - 11.1? 41.1?) but may not be 16:9. What am I actually receiving? What would be the benefits of subscribing to digital cable? Thanks in advance for your help.

I am a novice at this HD stuff, so please bear with me. I have just purchased and installed an HDTV. I have not yet subscribed to digital cable. I hooked up the coax to the tv, and to my suprise, I receive several channels which appear to be HD (3.1, 3.2, 15.1, 15.2, 15.3, and others which I can't remember offhand - 11.1? 41.1?) but may not be 16:9. What am I actually receiving? What would be the benefits of subscribing to digital cable? Thanks in advance for your help.You are receiving the local channels in unencrypted (clear) QAM. These are channels 906-915 on dgital cable. If you only want the HD locals, you do not need digital cable, basic will work. Upgrading to digital cable will give you more channels and DVR capabilities though.

Thanks for the info. What does QAM mean? If I subscribed to digital cable, would all channels be digital and would the quality of all the channels be better?

Thanks for the info. What does QAM mean? QAM stands for "Quadratic Amplitude Modulation. It is an encapsulation method for the video/audio streams. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAM for more information.

If I subscribed to digital cable, would all channels be digital and would the quality of all the channels be better?No. All basic/classic channels are still the analog feed, just rebroadcast in digital form. Quality is no better. All HD channels are true digital. Quality is the same as the HD stations you are seeing on your TV. Some may be a little better, some a little worse depending on the bitrate.

Does anyone have a clue on the date that Insight will start the new channels? It would be nice to have NFL HD before Thanksgiving. Anyone else going to be disappointed if they only add 6 or 7 new HD Channels, when D* is pumping out so many?

First let me apologize for this newbie question but I didn't really want to read all 110 pages of this thread.


Anyway I am on Dish Network and just upgraded to and HD tuner. My locals are out of Louisville (WAVE, WHAS etc.). Just wondering when these stations are supposed to start broadcasting in HD? I was really looking forward to football this Sunday in HD but I guess thats not going to happen. I called DN and they said sometime in 08 but I was hoping for a more specific answer. Thanks in advance.

First let me apologize for this newbie question but I didn't really want to read all 110 pages of this thread.


Anyway I am on Dish Network and just upgraded to and HD tuner. My locals are out of Louisville (WAVE, WHAS etc.). Just wondering when these stations are supposed to start broadcasting in HD? I was really looking forward to football this Sunday in HD but I guess thats not going to happen. I called DN and they said sometime in 08 but I was hoping for a more specific answer. Thanks in advance.

I get these on my QAM on CH's 11.1 and 03.1 + fox on 41.1 I have noticed some early games are not HD, but most after 3pm are.

I get these on my QAM on CH's 11.1 and 03.1 + fox on 41.1 I have noticed some early games are not HD, but most after 3pm are.

So what do I need to receive these? What equipment? Pricing? Ease in installation? Where to buy? Sorry for so many questions. Like I said I'm brand spankin new to HD.

So what do I need to receive these? What equipment? Pricing? Ease in installation? Where to buy? Sorry for so many questions. Like I said I'm brand spankin new to HD.

If your TV itself is dual tuner, or the antenna input on your Dish reciever is not in use, you could get (simple solution) an indoor HD antenna for $30 - $40 if you look around on the internet. Or you go spend some more change and get the Outdoor antenna and pick-up possible more than just the louisville locals in their Digital Broadcast. If you are interested in the Outdoor solution, I would suggest going through the pages of this post and see what others are using. I think the only thing I like about my insight feed is that the locals are unscrambled and available through the coax connection.

I just got done setting up a new Sharp Aquos HDTV for a friend and he has Insight Classic. I went to the local HDTV stations (wave, whas, etc) and got nothing. I scrolled through all the channels and there is digital music in the 116s but no locals, what gives? I did the same thing at my grandpas house (he has Insight Basic) where he has Insight Basic and he gets all the local HDTV stations. What gives? Is it because Insight Basic has the HDTV channels and Insight Classic does not? Or is there something else?

I just got done setting up a new Sharp Aquos HDTV for a friend and he has Insight Classic. I went to the local HDTV stations (wave, whas, etc) and got nothing. I scrolled through all the channels and there is digital music in the 116s but no locals, what gives? I did the same thing at my grandpas house (he has Insight Basic) where he has Insight Basic and he gets all the local HDTV stations. What gives? Is it because Insight Basic has the HDTV channels and Insight Classic does not? Or is there something else?

Welcome to my world.... if you read a few post before this one, you will see that I am having the same problem w/ my Sharp Aquos LC32D43U. I get all the music ch's, but no Local HD, it gives me some weird message that it's unable to pick up the broadcast..... I have two other HD TV's and neither one of them have this problem. I have tried everything. Let me know if you come across anything that helps.

Yeah I saw your post but didn't see a solution so thats why I posted :) Did you try moving the TV to the other room to see if it was a problem with the TV? I didn't try that yet, but I am wondering if it's a problem with the cable from the wall or the TV itself. Let me know if you find anything out, with the problem contained in your house you should be able to troubleshoot exactly where the breakdown is.
I thought about changing the coaxial cable, but I don't see how that would make much of a difference.

Yeah I saw your post but didn't see a solution so thats why I posted :) Did you try moving the TV to the other room to see if it was a problem with the TV? I didn't try that yet, but I am wondering if it's a problem with the cable from the wall or the TV itself. Let me know if you find anything out, with the problem contained in your house you should be able to troubleshoot exactly where the breakdown is.
I thought about changing the coaxial cable, but I don't see how that would make much of a difference.

:) That was my point... I could not find a solution. I tried everything. I am wondering if it is a tuner issue w/ the sharp.

You paid a lot of money to display the best possible signal, right? OTA is the best you will get for the locals for some time. Both HDTV and SDTV broadcasts look much better compared to cable or satellite, and with SDTV broadcasts you can get 480p feeds. Sound also benefits from not being highly compressed like it is for cable or satellite transmission.

You paid a lot of money to display the best possible signal, right? OTA is the best you will get for the locals for some time. Both HDTV and SDTV broadcasts look much better compared to cable or satellite, and with SDTV broadcasts you can get 480p feeds. Sound also benefits from not being highly compressed like it is for cable or satellite transmission.

Not quite true any longer with Direct TV's new sat. and MPEG 4 my nationals are now as good as local OTA. To this point Direct has hit the target quite well. Still no HD from Louisville but, my attic antenna works very well.

New channel lineup for Insight

http://www.insight-com.com/documents/printlineup/kentuckiana.pdf

Not quite true any longer with Direct TV's new sat. and MPEG 4 my nationals are now as good as local OTA. To this point Direct has hit the target quite well. Still no HD from Louisville but, my attic antenna works very well.


No mention was made of the nationals; I specified the locals.

Quite true.

Do not forget to use WAVE as a bad example with its bit starved signal with 2 sub channels.

Bottom line is if you have a HDTV and want lots of the best HD at this point Direct is the way to go.

Cable has never been a good way to go for SD or HD picture quality.

Does a Vizio VX37L give signal strength?

I get HDTV fine in Breckinridge County.

Does a Vizio VX37L give signal strength?

I get HDTV fine in Breckinridge County.

Small world. My parents live in Breckinridge County.

What type of antenna are you using?

I live in Custer

And

Just using a regular large element television antenna I think the 99.99 one from Radio Shack - Everything crystal clear on the digital channels with no problem at all with the antenna pointing towards the knobs at about 25 feet.

DirectTV Vs Insight? Well, I'm seriously looking at switching from insight, but have a couple of Qs for the gurus here - and don't want to read back thru 110 pages.

1: Quality - Which is overall better for HD? And am I right in saying that the sub channels & seriously bad pixellation for WAVE will no longer be an issue if I switch to Directtv?
2: Locals - 32 is the hold-up and directtv does not carry them HD yet? Any ETA on that agreement? In meantime, is an antenna the only choice or will I have the network versions and still be able to watch the prime time lineups in HD? If antenna, what is a good one? I've got an older set without an internal tuner...
3: Phone connection. I have no land line. Is it required for directtv? I do not use PPV, so don't care if I have that feature accessibility or not.
4: Contract - were you required to sign a contract for service? I'm leery of getting roped into somehting I may not like.

Lastly, has anyone else made this switch and are you happy you did so?
Thanks!
C

DirectTV Vs Insight? Well, I'm seriously looking at switching from insight, but have a couple of Qs for the gurus here - and don't want to read back thru 110 pages.

1: Quality - Which is overall better for HD? And am I right in saying that the sub channels & seriously bad pixellation for WAVE will no longer be an issue if I switch to Directtv?
2: Locals - 32 is the hold-up and directtv does not carry them HD yet? Any ETA on that agreement? In meantime, is an antenna the only choice or will I have the network versions and still be able to watch the prime time lineups in HD? If antenna, what is a good one? I've got an older set without an internal tuner...
3: Phone connection. I have no land line. Is it required for directtv? I do not use PPV, so don't care if I have that feature accessibility or not.
4: Contract - were you required to sign a contract for service? I'm leery of getting roped into somehting I may not like.

Lastly, has anyone else made this switch and are you happy you did so?
Thanks!
C

1. Locals are not available in HD from Direct at this point. When they are they will be off air and with have all the faults WAVE currently has. WAVE must fix WAVE but, it appears they just don't care.

2. There is no eta for HD locals from D.

3. There is no need for a phone connection.

4. Yes there is a 2 Year commitment.

Currently I get more than 70 HD channels. The quality is outstanding. I have an antenna in my attic of the Local HD stations and it is just fine. If your interest is in exec lent HD then you will have no problem with D. If you interest is WAVE and its horrible HD then no fix is available other than from WAVE. I have had cable and hate it. I have seen cable and Direct is soooo much better.

Thanks for the quick info! Now I'm really leaning towards directtv.

Locals - Check! (via HD antenna)
3x and growing # of HD channels? Check!
No phone needed? Check!

The interest is not specifically WAVE, but wave is TERRIBLE via insight and I just wondered if the same problem existed with direct. I had/knew the answer if I just thought about it (wave is the one creating the sub channels, so the source is bad, therefore all providers will be bad). I've actually had good dialog with Bill Lamb (FOX41 GM) and he seems truly interested and responsive to the HD issues; alas, nothing but silence from the WAVE GM (langford). Very disappointing...

Any recommends for the antenna hardware?
And, aren't the channels like 40.1, etc. so how do you tune those in? Would I need a seperate tuner box? Any recommends there or will the directtv box handle that?

C

Any recommends for the antenna hardware?
And, aren't the channels like 40.1, etc. so how do you tune those in? Would I need a seperate tuner box? Any recommends there or will the directtv box handle that?

C[/QUOTE]

I use a terrestrial DB2 antenna in my attic. I got it from solidsignal.com. Works well for me. HD stations are remapped to the .1. For instance WHAS DT is on CH 55 but, is remapped to 11.1. There are constant beta tests underway and at this point with beta software in my HR20-700 I can do remote booking from the DTV web site. If I am away I can go the the web site and tell my recorder to record a show or shows. The HR20 is connected to my broadband ISP which is insightbb. As for a separate tuner box the HR20has it the newer HR21 does not but, there is to be a solution for that which has not been announced by Direct yet.

Anyone with Insight notice that WHAS 11.1 has been moved to 71.1, and the KET channels have also been moved to 71.x over the basic cable feed? I wonder if this is temporary or why they have done this?

On another note, I'm glad to see Insight finally adding a few more HD channels on the 11th, but wonder if they plan to start rolling out even more HD channels on a regular basis next year? I'd really like to see CNN, TWC and HGTV added soon, along with the Golf Channel.

Anyone with Insight notice that WHAS 11.1 has been moved to 71.1, and the KET channels have been moved to 74.x over the basic cable feed? I wonder if this is temporary or why they have done this?I noticed this just the other day. I'm not sure why they are doing it. Everything is working fine so I'm not going to worry too much about it. I just need to upgrade anyway to D* anyway.

Anybody here know why a new Sharp LCD, 46D64U, will not get Insight's digital channels through its Qam tuner? I only get 1 viewable and its the PBS station. Sharp thinks its a cable issue, but I seen it here and other places where people have this same problem. Any information would be helpful.

It could well be Insights problem.

I have a 37" LG with a QAM tuner, it works fine most of the time.

Have you tried to manually tune the channel's?

Try 3-1, 11-2 or 72-1, 80-3.

It could well be Insights problem.

I have a 37" LG with a QAM tuner, it works fine most of the time.

Have you tried to manually tune the channel's?

Try 3-1, 11-2 or 72-1, 80-3.
Yes I tried manually tuning channels and I get this message, "Failed to receive broadcast" E202." I know this is an error code. I had a Philips & Vizio and they both picked up the digital channels fine. Called Sharp and they were no help, they blame Insight, of course. Surely there is someone around Louisville who has a Sharp lcd receiving digital channels through the qam tuner?

Last night WAVE TV ran a crawl during HEREOS saying that due to weather in New York the program would not be in HD. It is funny that the program was seen in the rest of the country in HD. This appears to be another WAVE TV does not give a ____ about viewers. We still have a slide up saying that the music channel is not available any longer....it went bankrupt.....and the weather channel which is in violation of FCC rules that sub channels must have children’s programming. There GM will not respond to email.

Yes I tried manually tuning channels and I get this message, "Failed to receive broadcast" E202." I know this is an error code. I had a Philips & Vizio and they both picked up the digital channels fine. Called Sharp and they were no help, they blame Insight, of course. Surely there is someone around Louisville who has a Sharp lcd receiving digital channels through the qam tuner?

Sounds like Sharps problem, take the TV back.

If that's not possible and you have phone or internet through Insight call about problems with those, epically the phone. Insight could care less if you can get a tv signal. But they by law have to make sure that phone line is in top condition.

New channel lineup for Insight

http://www.insight-com.com/documents/printlineup/kentuckiana.pdf

I wonder why Louisville gets the CW in HD, but northern KY Insight customers don't.

I wonder why Louisville gets the CW in HD, but northern KY Insight customers don't.

If you are referring to the Cincinatti market, it could be because the Cincy CW affiliate does not broadcast in HD (last I heard anyway.)

....and the weather channel which is in violation of FCC rules that sub channels must have children’s programming.

As much as I would like to pile on, I think there's wiggle room here as long as they expand the C/E programming on 3.1 to cover the requirements for 3.2.

And as for the so-called WX issue, I can say the something has been going wacky with the audio feed from NBC-HD over the past couple of weeks, WLEX has been dropping in and out of HD mode to get a clear feed. Perhaps WAVE just gave up????

Stations have options on how to cover the C/E programming requirement. 3 Hrs of programming are required for each sub channel so if they have 6 hrs on their main its covered. In our case its 18 hrs over two channels as the KET-ED service has educational programming but its not in the E/I list ( go figure)

William

If you are referring to the Cincinatti market, it could be because the Cincy CW affiliate does not broadcast in HD (last I heard anyway.)

You are correct! I contacted Insight about it, and they said that since the CW in Cincinnati is a substation of WKRC (CBS) in Cincy, they can't air both the CBS and CW channels in HD.

Good news for Louisville DirecTV subscribers:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1084510&highlight=

Yes I tried manually tuning channels and I get this message, "Failed to receive broadcast" E202." I know this is an error code. I had a Philips & Vizio and they both picked up the digital channels fine. Called Sharp and they were no help, they blame Insight, of course. Surely there is someone around Louisville who has a Sharp lcd receiving digital channels through the qam tuner?

Your manual lists two digital error reception codes. The E202 is for weak signal, the other for no programming. The Sharp probably has a weaker receiver than the other TV's, and can't make out the signal from the noise, but this is not likely a propblem with your TV. I've seen too many bad lines to put my money on the TV being the issue.

Insight may not care if you get a signal, but they are required to meet a minimum signal strength and noise rejection threshold in their line to your house. Tell them you've bought different TV's and still have the same problem, it should get a line tech to your house with a signal meter.

I presume you do not have your line running to multiple TV's with no amp splitters.

Last night WAVE TV ran a crawl during HEREOS saying that due to weather in New York the program would not be in HD. It is funny that the program was seen in the rest of the country in HD. This appears to be another WAVE TV does not give a ____ about viewers. We still have a slide up saying that the music channel is not available any longer....it went bankrupt.....and the weather channel which is in violation of FCC rules that sub channels must have children’s programming. There GM will not respond to email.

It sounds like the weather forced the uplink to switch to lower bandwidth to maintain a clean signal. WAVE has no control over that. If the uplink was forced down to 480i, then the whole country would have received 480i, unless the majors parse their feeds through multiple feeds to distribute. Maybe someone can comment on that.

I'm happy to know that they displayed a message. It is a sign that they are aware of our desire to receive HD programming (or that the majors are aware). Either way, someone is paying attention somewhere.

New channel lineup for Insight

http://www.insight-com.com/documents/printlineup/kentuckiana.pdf


Several new HD channels, if you're paying for the 2nd tier of programming:

Animal Planet
TBS
NGC (National Geographic?)

are among them.

Sharp's qam tuner does't work with Insight cable. Just got a call from Sharp service tech who said Sharp's qam tuner will not pickup local HD channels from Insight. Something about Sharp's software not working with Insight. Sharp knows about this problem but is not trying to fix it. Sharp also has a problem with sound from ABC-HD OTA. Avoid Sharp unless you want a cable box.

Has anyone noticed that almost everything HD today has been choppy. I find it hard to believe that CBS, HDNet, and NFL Network could be the problem. Though CBS and HDNet should be more related since they were both in Indianapolis with their feed (could have even been shared). But the NFL Saturday night game has been the worse of the choppiness. What is the deal?

What is wrong with our local stations? They make some the most absurd programming choices. Why in the name of all that is good is there a freaking infomercial on WLKY right now instead of an NFL game? THIS MAKES NO SENSE!!!!

No game scheduled right now.

Good news for Louisville DirecTV subscribers:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1084510&highlight=

Thanks for posting this! I'm a little bummed it's going to take until mid-2008 to get the Louisville HD locals, but it's good to see official confirmation that they are coming!

What is wrong with our local stations? They make some the most absurd programming choices. Why in the name of all that is good is there a freaking infomercial on WLKY right now instead of an NFL game? THIS MAKES NO SENSE!!!!

It's due to the local broadcast rules for NFL games. As you may already be aware, each week CBS and FOX alternate showing 2 games (the other only shows one). This week WLKY (CBS) is showing a 4:00 game for its only game this week, so there is only one game on at the moment. FOX has 2 games this week., so we'll get 2 games at 4:00. WLKY chose to show us the Colts at 4:00 this week, which is why we get infomercials right now. If it's that big of a deal, you should really pony up for Sunday Ticket on D*. That's what I do. It's all about the RedZone Channel. :D

Thanks for posting this! I'm a little bummed it's going to take until mid-2008 to get the Louisville HD locals, but it's good to see official confirmation that they are coming!

I spoke with DirectTV today and the CSR told me that Louisville should be getting local HD in early February. Nothing in writing, but that's what they claim.

I spoke with DirectTV today and the CSR told me that Louisville should be getting local HD in early February. Nothing in writing, but that's what they claim.

The next satellite has has to go up for us to get HD locals, and I'm pretty sure there's a significant amount of time after it's launched before they start broadcasting new channels. Based on this D11 launch thread February seems very optimistic.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92610

The next satellite has has to go up for us to get HD locals, and I'm pretty sure there's a significant amount of time after it's launched before they start broadcasting new channels. Based on this D11 launch thread February seems very optimistic.


That could be true. After being on hold for some time, the CSR came back with the Feb. time frame. I was talking with the customer retention dept. They definitely hold back information but it is in fact the information they gave me. The previous link mentioned by Buckett seemed to imply that Louisville would be part of a rollout that has already began with Flint, Mich. and Waco, Texas and will wrap up by Mid 2008.

That could be true. After being on hold for some time, the CSR came back with the Feb. time frame. I was talking with the customer retention dept. They definitely hold back information but it is in fact the information they gave me. The previous link mentioned by Buckett seemed to imply that Louisville would be part of a rollout that has already began with Flint, Mich. and Waco, Texas and will wrap up by Mid 2008.

I haven't been following it that close, just assuming that if they had the bandwidth we'd be up by now. The sooner the better.

Once more WAVE did not broadcast NBC in HD most of yesterday due to weather in NY. Let's see.....CBS no problem.....FOX no problem.....ABC no problem......could it be that the people at NBC New York are as incompetent as the people at WAVE? No WAVE is more incompetent but, they have great support, it appears, from NBC.

Once more WAVE did not broadcast NBC in HD most of yesterday due to weather in NY.

WLEX was in HD all afternoon (Golf) and evening (NFL) .... nary even a little audio trouble. It sounds like WAVE needs to stop lying to their public.

Several new HD channels, if you're paying for the 2nd tier of programming:

Animal Planet
TBS
NGC (National Geographic?)

are among them.I'm more than a little disappointed that SciFi-HD is not in the list.

I'm more than a little disappointed that SciFi-HD is not in the list.

I'm on Dish, we have it uplinked. Just waiting for them to turn it on.....:(:(:(

Once more WAVE did not broadcast NBC in HD most of yesterday due to weather in NY. Let's see.....CBS no problem.....FOX no problem.....ABC no problem......could it be that the people at NBC New York are as incompetent as the people at WAVE? No WAVE is more incompetent but, they have great support, it appears, from NBC.

If you check the thread for the Sunday night game in the HD Programming forum no one else was reporting a problem, only WAVE 3. The rest of the country was getting the game in HD. Miraculously, they turned the HD on in the second half. How that was possible given their excuse I'm not sure. :rolleyes:

I've been complaining about this to the GM since the last Winter Olympics.....

Steve ain't going to budge or respond.....

Perhaps we should file a joint letter with Dorsey at the CJ and see how old Stevie responds....or not. Or the WAVE trouble shooter....no he probably does not watch.

Trying to decide between Direct TV HD vs. Insight HD. Two TVs and cable. Anyone feel strongly about one being better than the other?

If you check the thread for the Sunday night game in the HD Programming forum no one else was reporting a problem, only WAVE 3. The rest of the country was getting the game in HD. Miraculously, they turned the HD on in the second half. How that was possible given their excuse I'm not sure. :rolleyes:

I really think there is a problem with the WAVE-3 Digital transmitter. When I first got my digital OTA receiver, WAVE-3 digital was dropping out right and left. Yeah, it's frustrating. I just switched over to another HD channel as I got tired of watching the flipping back/forth from HD to SD.

WAVE, are you listening???? Do you hear??????

I really think there is a problem with the WAVE-3 Digital transmitter. When I first got my digital OTA receiver, WAVE-3 digital was dropping out right and left. Yeah, it's frustrating. I just switched over to another HD channel as I got tired of watching the flipping back/forth from HD to SD.

WAVE, are you listening???? Do you hear??????

Well when they run a crawl saying it is not in HD due to weather in NY that would indicate a satellite problem. There transmitter problem is running two sub channels along with the main HD channel.

And no they are not listening. They do not care.

See attached press release

HD changes on 1-06-08

William

Hi,

I have an OTA antennae since D* STILL doesn't have HD in the "16th Largest City In The Country!" HA! Is anyone out there able to receive Channel 34 with an OTA? Any tips on reception?

Hi,

I have an OTA antennae since D* STILL doesn't have HD in the "16th Largest City In The Country!" HA! Is anyone out there able to receive Channel 34 with an OTA? Any tips on reception?

Yes, but only after 9pm or so in Winchester when atmospheric effects are enhanced. Otherwise I don't pick up WBKI-DT on channel 19 or WBKI-analog on channel 34. My antenna is in the attic, so I would have more chance at tuning if it were outside on the roof, but nonetheless it can be tuned.

I am using a Winegard PR 8800 which according to the study at http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/comparing.html
is most sensitive for UHF channel 19, which is what WBKI is digitally broadcasting at. I bought this antenna to pick up CW HD programming and then some months later WKYT added CW as a high-definition subchannel (alongside CBS-HD, quality loss apparent).

Thanks for the update, William. I like the new ordering and arrangement of channels (fewer dead subchannels during Primetime on which my boxes hang up).

-Reagan

Newbie here... "Hello forum"

I've got a Vizio 32" and a Samsung 46" and both have a QAM tuner built in, we have analog cable? (non-digital) and an amplifier on the main line coming in the house.

My 46" I hooked up to the cable, ran a scan and it picked up 3-1, 32-1, 41-1 and 71-1 all of Louisville's locals.

My 32" I hooked up, ran a scan on and it only picked up 41-1 and 71-1.

I have a couple of questions -

1) How are my TV's picking up a digital picture in the first place? is this being sent from Insight or from the satellite feed they get and they are just re-broadcasting without cares?

2) Why is channel 11-1 located on 71-1? I recall when I originally did a scan on my 46" channel 11 was on 11-1 now it's only found on 71-1?

3) Why would 2 TV's in the same house not have the same digital channels? signal strength? Do they make an amplifier specifically for Digital channel amplification?

It's obvious that the information from the Television providers is not being disseminated to the end user, but somebody has to know what the HE!#$ they are doing?

Hopefully you guys can shed some light on these questions....

Thanks.

1) How are my TV's picking up a digital picture in the first place? is this being sent from Insight or from the satellite feed they get and they are just re-broadcasting without cares?The local digital stations are included with all lineup packages including "Basic" (channels 2-12 I think but it basic may go a little higher).

2) Why is channel 11-1 located on 71-1? I recall when I originally did a scan on my 46" channel 11 was on 11-1 now it's only found on 71-1?Because Insight broadcasting it on channel 71 program 1 and is no longer including the virtual channel number in the stream so your TV does not know to map it to channel 11-1. (Very simplified answer. Google "ATSC Virtual Channel numbers" for more info.)

3) Why would 2 TV's in the same house not have the same digital channels? signal strength? Do they make an amplifier specifically for Digital channel amplification?The amplifier from Insight should be sufficient. I you use a different amplifer, you need one that does up at least up to 950Mhz. Does your 32" pick up all the channels if you connect it to the cable that is curently connected to the 46?

Thanks for the reply.:)

I actually didn't try moving the 32" up to where the 46" is and re-scanning. I might try that but since I've got the channels scanned currently I guess there's no need except for proof of concept...

The local digital stations are included with all lineup packages including "Basic" (channels 2-12 I think but it basic may go a little higher).

So the Cable company is aware - is ther documentation of that somewhere? they should educate their people so they will also know as usual they are ignorant to what is going on in their own company.

So the Cable company is aware - is ther documentation of that somewhere? they should educate their people so they will also know as usual they are ignorant to what is going on in their own company.It is mentioned in their latest Channel Lineup flier but you almost have to read between the lines. They would prefer that people believe they need the digital service. More money that way.

FYI: Costco just got the latest 47" Vizios (all black) and they will receive the "Audio only" digital programming from Insight as well. My 720p 42" Vizio did not.

Hi,

Is anyone out there able to receive Channel 34 with an OTA? Any tips on reception?

Not able to receive in Digital. Can get a snowstorm signal in analog, but with the location of it being about 180 degrees opposite to Floyds Knobs towers and a weak transmission source from 34, the changes of getting a digital signal are very low.

If you really want it, suggest put in a rotator and an amplifier.

Hi,

I have an OTA antennae since D* STILL doesn't have HD in the "16th Largest City In The Country!" HA! Is anyone out there able to receive Channel 34 with an OTA? Any tips on reception?

I built an antenna out of junk from around the house, no reflector, from the Mad Science section from this site. http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?

No problem picking up CW I'm in PRP.
Antenna's in the attic.

Dear Mr. XXXXXXX,

Thanks for taking the time to write us about getting local HD channels in your area and for being one of our valued loyal customers since March 2006. I want you to know that we appreciate it. I understand your concern and I'm be glad to let you know that we plan to offer local HD channels in the Louisville, KY area on or around Feb 6, 2008.

Thanks again for writing and hope you find the information above helpful. Please stay tuned to directv.com for the latest news and information about our services.

I hope you enjoy your HD locals!

Sincerely,

Tatum P. ID#100136479
DIRECTV Customer Service

Several new HD channels, if you're paying for the 2nd tier of programming:

Animal Planet
TBS
NGC (National Geographic?)

are among them.

I'm paying for the two tiers classic and whatever the next one up is PLUS the HD Pak. However, I NEVER get the above mentioned ones, and I get ESPN/2 rather spotty.

For Instance: tonight, watching Lou/Marquette, switched off ESPN to see Prison Break, went back, nothing but gray screen. :( bleh.

I'm running two S-Cards through my HDTivo - HDMI-Vizio LCD.

D* HD Locals are up.

D* HD Locals are up.

Woohoo! Can't wait to tell my dad. He'll be ecstatic!

Local HD :cool:

Still no Channel 34 in HD....Hmmmmmmm.....Anybody know what's up with that?...

No 34 on D*...Are they going to get it?

I get my locals OTA with D*. I see posts that the D* locals are up. How do I tell if I am getting them from D* or OTA?

I get my locals OTA with D*. I see posts that the D* locals are up. How do I tell if I am getting them from D* or OTA?

Just enter the primary channel number (3, 11, 32, 41) rather than the digital OTA designator (3-1, 11-1, 32-1, 41-1).

Only the "big four network" affiliates are being transmitted in HD by D*. PBS and the lesser nets will still need to be tuned in OTA for the digital channels.

-- Dan --

Just enter the primary channel number (3, 11, 32, 41) rather than the digital OTA designator (3-1, 11-1, 32-1, 41-1).

Only the "big four network" affiliates are being transmitted in HD by D*. PBS and the lesser nets will still need to be tuned in OTA for the digital channels.

-- Dan --
That works when I have "show all channels I receive" selected. When I choose my favorites, I get the SD when I select 3, 11, 32, 41 even though they are not in my favorites.

Do you have hide sd duplicates selected?

Do you have hide sd duplicates selected?
Yup, happens on both receivers. Can't figure out if I have something else set wrong. I still have my antenna hooked up to pick up the locals that D* doesn't have in HD yet. Could that have something to do with it?

Has anyone else experienced frequent video freezes on KET HD OTA (channel 15-3) the last few days? What's odd is that while the video is frozen the audio is not affected.

I've seen this on a Samsung LCD TV and a TVIX 4100SH with tuner module. The signal strength does not appear to change during these freezes. I'm located about 9 miles from the tower and my roof-mounted antenna provides a strong signal to the tuners.

Anyone having problems with 32 OTA tonight? Celine is breaking up on all my receivers. Loosing audio like mad....

Has anyone else experienced frequent video freezes on KET HD OTA (channel 15-3) the last few days? What's odd is that while the video is frozen the audio is not affected.

Yep. Fairly constant through "Wired Science" last night. Half of the screen turns into the BlueMan group.

Yup, happens on both receivers. Can't figure out if I have something else set wrong. I still have my antenna hooked up to pick up the locals that D* doesn't have in HD yet. Could that have something to do with it?


No that is the way I have mine. I have 2 of each big 4 locals.....3,3.1....11,11.1...32,32.1....41,41.1. 3,11,32, and 41 are locals in HD from Direct. If you go to the guide and cursor left to station in the channel the banner it will tell you that. The .1's are my off air HD.

A few ?'s. Is insight ESPN HD better,worse, or the same as DirectTV ESPN HD ? (apples to apples) Signal wise which means PQ wise, which is better cableHD or satHD ? Thanks

Scotty

Anyone with an Insight cablecard having issues with digital standard/choice channels? Keep getting "no signal."

Had Insight hit the card and still nothing. They are coming out on Mar 4th to fix.

Hi,

Is anyone out there able to receive Channel 34 with an OTA? Any tips on reception?

I have the same issue - can't pickup 34 digital OTA. May be a pointing issue since I'm using a directional UHF antenna and have it pointed 1/2 way between floyd's knobs & CH21 in C-burg. Have never been able to pickup 34 digital OTA.

My parents have analog cable. My mother wants a flat screen tv for the kitchen. She wants me to pick it out for her. If I choose one with a quam tuner, what hd stations would she receive?

I have the same issue - can't pickup 34 digital OTA. May be a pointing issue since I'm using a directional UHF antenna and have it pointed 1/2 way between floyd's knobs & CH21 in C-burg. Have never been able to pickup 34 digital OTA.


I have never been able to pick up digital 34, even though I can receive the analog signal somewhat via OTA. From my location in Shepherdsville, I would need an antenna pointing almost exactly opposite of the direction I have it pointed now to receive the other local channels.

My parents have analog cable. My mother wants a flat screen tv for the kitchen. She wants me to pick it out for her. If I choose one with a quam tuner, what hd stations would she receive?

189 KET 1
190 KET 2
191 KETED
192 KETKY(HD)
906 WAVE HD (NBC)
908 WHAS HD (ABC)
910 WDRB HD (FOX)
912 WLKY HD (CBS)
914 WBKI HD (CW)
915 WMYO HD (My Network)
918 KETHD *Note: This is channel 192 as well.

Also a few misc music channels if the TV supports "audio only" reception of digital stations.

So basically, she would just get the local channels. I was hoping there would be more.........oh well

Pretty much. We also used to get all the Music Choice channels along with SciFi and Bravo but no longer. Those were not HD though. Of course she will still get SciFi and Bravo via analog.

Does she have to have "digital" service or will analog work?

Basic service (the 14.95 package) is all that is required for the QAM channels.

Now I am wondering.............does Insight cable have a better quality signal than Dish or Direct??????? I was talking to a guy yesterday at Sam's. He said that he had Dish, but switched to Insight & there is no comparison to HD or SD. Insight has a much better picture than Dish. He said that even the SD programming was good on his 55" Samsung & that the HD was tremendous. I have Dish & want to move to HD, but I find it hard to tolerate SD programs on HD tv's. When I switch, I want to be satisfied.

Now I am wondering.............does Insight cable have a better quality signal than Dish or Direct??????? I was talking to a guy yesterday at Sam's. He said that he had Dish, but switched to Insight & there is no comparison to HD or SD. Insight has a much better picture than Dish. He said that even the SD programming was good on his 55" Samsung & that the HD was tremendous. I have Dish & want to move to HD, but I find it hard to tolerate SD programs on HD tv's. When I switch, I want to be satisfied.

I have Direct TV and could not be happier. I have friends who have cable and my SD and HD is much better. PLus I have way more HD. I watch on a 65" rear projector Hatichi. If I were you I would go to a home with each and take a look for yourself.

Now I am wondering.............does Insight cable have a better quality signal than Dish or Direct??????? I was talking to a guy yesterday at Sam's. He said that he had Dish, but switched to Insight & there is no comparison to HD or SD. Insight has a much better picture than Dish. He said that even the SD programming was good on his 55" Samsung & that the HD was tremendous. I have Dish & want to move to HD, but I find it hard to tolerate SD programs on HD tv's. When I switch, I want to be satisfied.Sorry but I can't help there. I do know that I am content with my Insight signal. D* is not an option for me because of trees. DirecTV used to have reduced quality HD but as far as I know, they fixed that.

But if you really want QAM, you will not be able to get it with D*. You need a box for every TV.

We lost WAVE and WLKY from our QAM on Insight a few days ago, anyone else?

Spoke with Insight today. They told me it was $15 per month for their dvr???????? Is that true???? And that did not include the upgrade fee for digital cable

We lost WAVE and WLKY from our QAM on Insight a few days ago, anyone else?

I've lost them too. I chalked it up to the rain and bad wether yesterday, but its still not back on today at last check (2pm ish)

No sense in calling tech support, I had one alleged tech and a tech support manager tell me that the only way to get any digital or HD programming was through the Boxes they rent. Then they couldn't explain how I was able to be watching one of the locals in digital while I was on the phone with them.

Anyone else have problems even getting the qam channels recognized by the tuner during the initial setup?

We lost WAVE and WLKY from our QAM on Insight a few days ago, anyone else?They moved to physical channel 78. Rescan your channels.

No sense in calling tech support, I had one alleged tech and a tech support manager tell me that the only way to get any digital or HD programming was through the Boxes they rent. Then they couldn't explain how I was able to be watching one of the locals in digital while I was on the phone with them.He's uninformed (like most of their employees).

Anyone else have problems even getting the qam channels recognized by the tuner during the initial setup?I have the following tuners and don't have problems with any of them (not related to the Insight feed anyway):

Vizio LCD TV (newer model that tunes "audio only" stations as well)
2 HDHomeRuns (PC tuner)
VistaView Saber (PC tuner)
Pinnacle Ultimate HD Stick (PC tuner)

Spoke with Insight today. They told me it was $15 per month for their dvr???????? Is that true???? And that did not include the upgrade fee for digital cableYes that's true.

They moved to physical channel 78. Rescan your channels.

Thank you, I just figured it was Insight being sketchy like when Fox went out at the end of the Superbowl. rescanning right now.

Ah, looks like they made it make sense finally. 3-1 is Wave3, 32-1 is WLKY32, 11-1 is WHAS11, etc etc. My wife is happy!

Thanks!

Insight is doing strange things it seems. Several days ago WHAS was showing up on channel 71-1 now it is back to 11-1. When I talked with an Insight rep, they had no idea what channels are which except the DVR channels (e.g. 906...)

The channels like 3-1, 11-1, 32-1 etc are QAM channels, correct?

Insight is doing strange things it seems. Several days ago WHAS was showing up on channel 71-1 now it is back to 11-1. When I talked with an Insight rep, they had no idea what channels are which except the DVR channels (e.g. 906...)

The channels like 3-1, 11-1, 32-1 etc are QAM channels, correct?Correct.

The reason it was showing up as 71-1 before was because it was on physical channel 71, program 1 and Insight did not have the CVCT set properly. This is the data that tell the TV to map that channel as virtual channel 3-1. The CVCT is now set which is why it shows up as 3-1 instead of 78-1 where it is actually located.

Thanks for the info. It is interesting that the Insight rep did not have a clue about being able to receive HD channels without using the cable box.

Am I the only one that is annoyed by the weather scrolls on the bottom of the screen that prevents stations like WAVE3 from showing HD programming? I understand the need for weather alerts, but can't they just do it once every 15 minutes or so? Does it have to be CONSTANT?

Last night on Letterman, WLKY 32 still carried the broadcast in HD, but there was a small static notice in the bottom center of the screen saying that there was a weather alert, with instructions to tune to the analog channel. How did they overlay that notice on the screen and still carry the HD feed? I thought their lack of HD equipment was what prevented them from carrying Wheel and Jeopardy in HD, yet they were able to overlay the message on an HD feed?

Why doesn't WAVE 3 do this instead of ruining the HD broadcast to constantly tell us that all that rain we're seeing outside may lead to flooding in some areas?

WAVE is to cheap to buy a HDTV title generator, so they have to switch back to SDTV in order to put messages on the screen. I have sent e-mails complaining, but they don't care about HDTV. They use any excuse to turn it off and run multiple sub-channels that lowers the HDTV bit rate to the lowest of any station and the picture quality shows the low bit rate HDTV.

I am west of E-Town and am putting a UHF antenna array on a 50 foot tower and will try to get NBC from Lexington or Bowling Green and finally be able to DUMP WAVE.

Mike T

WAVE is to cheap to buy a HDTV title generator, so they have to switch back to SDTV in order to put messages on the screen.

Okay, so it's something called an HD title generator that allows 32 to show the static, non-scrolling notice over an HD broadcast.

I assume that the ability to do this and the ability to rebroadcast programs (such as syndicated stuff like Wheel of Fortune) in HD are two separate issues with two separate solutions?

Okay, so it's something called an HD title generator that allows 32 to show the static, non-scrolling notice over an HD broadcast.

I assume that the ability to do this and the ability to rebroadcast programs (such as syndicated stuff like Wheel of Fortune) in HD are two separate issues with two separate solutions?


Yes very different. The point is none of the local sations have any equipment for HD. They can only receive it from the Networks and broadcast it in real time.

Recently bought a 19" hdtv for the kitchen, connected to an antenna. Been noticing that WHAS seems to have a lot of problems. Are they running at full power?

I haven't noticed any problems with WHAS, but WLKY has had some issues during the NCAA tournament the past three days, such as cutting back and forth between HD and SD.

Has anyone heard how WLKY is going to handle the WKU-UCLA Sweet 16 on Thursday 3-27-08 since they play at the same time Louisville is playing?

I hope they do a deal with 58-WMYO (or some other broadcaster) like they did for the Indiana game (also played at the same time Louisville last Friday night). If not, perhaps the financial disincentive overrides the state pride we ought to be showing for having two teams from KY in the Sweet 16! Broadcasters' free access to the ariwaves is closley tied to providing a community service..........this is a great opportunity for WLKY to demonstrate they're good stewards of that right.

Louisville and Western Kentucky NCAA Basketball Games Will Air Locally in Louisville

http://www.wlky.com/news/15701156/detail.html

Cincinnati Reds : 71 HD games

FSN Ohio announces 145-game Cincinnati Reds television schedule
Ohio's premiere regional sports network to televise an unprecedented 71 Reds games in High Definition

http://louisvillehdtv.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=250

Nevermind.....looks like they are good stewards, after all.

Go Toppers!

wlky.com/news/15701156/detail

Well, I finally had enough of Insight. I have been on DTV for about a week now. For less money, I get about 3x the HD selection, and it all looks as good if not better.
When I went to their field office to turn in my box, they didn't even ATTEMPT to keep me as a customer (as I have been for ~19 years). Instead they tried to sell me ****ing phone service. THAT'S the reason Insight Communications will colossally fail over the long term. Now, if someone will offer me broadband at a better rate, with some guaranteed speeds/bandwidth, I'd be Insight-free. :(

Insight has a survey for which HD channels you wanted added. I would give a direct link, but it will not let me after I have completed the survey. Just click the read link

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/09/insight-asks-customers-to-select-most-wanted-hd-channels/

I just purchased a 19" Samsung for the kitchen. For some reson it isn't picking up 11-2 like my stb does. 11-1 the signal is cutting in and out. none of the other ota channels are doing that.

FOX 41 did a HELL of a job on Thunder tonight... Better than last year.. WDRB has just raised the bar for HD coverage of Thunder.. Audio was great... Surround sound was great.. 21 HD cameras was great.. WOW!!!

Got a HP-S4253 42 inch plasma wont power on standby light blinks and tv makes a clicking noise every 5 seconds.Anybody know of a repair shop in jeffersonville area that could tell me whats wrong at a decent price?Hard to find a repair thats works on plasmas.

Call Kwik Service (Louisville) and see if they work on them.

Just started having trouble receiving WHAS (digital) the past couple of weeks. According to the meter on the tv & another stb, the signal strength ranges from 89 down to 49. None of the other locals have that problem. Spoke to WHAS today & he says there is nothing wrong with their signal, but is a multipath problem. Nothing to my knowlede has changed, but it seems like if it was a multipath issue.........why does it only affect WHAS & not the other local signals. The engineer stated that since their signal was the highest frequency (55) that it is the most vulnerable, but that would not matter after the cutoff date, since they would be broadcasting on 11. Does his comments to me make sense or did I just get fed a line......

I live in Eastern Breckinridge County - Do you guys think I could get a small TV antenna and mount it on my existing tower about 60 feet up point it towards Louisville and get Louisville HD perfect?

I am also interested in trying to get either LEX or BWG or EVV HD also?

Thoughts are appreciated?

I have a Vizio 37" HDTV

Is there a meter that can be purchased to check the quality of the signal by turning an antenna?

I live in Eastern Breckinridge County - Do you guys think I could get a small TV antenna and mount it on my existing tower about 60 feet up point it towards Louisville and get Louisville HD perfect?

I am also interested in trying to get either LEX or BWG or EVV HD also?

Thoughts are appreciated?

I have a Vizio 37" HDTV

Is there a meter that can be purchased to check the quality of the signal by turning an antenna?

I live about 15 miles west of E-Town and I get all the Louisville digital fine with an antenna on the roof of 2 story house.

Right now all the digital is on UHF, but next year when analog goes off they may switch the digital to the old analog channels, and you would need a much bigger VHF-UHF antenna.

I live in Custer right down 86 from you.

Yeah I think I need to raise my current antenna.

I have radio shack largest antenna up but its only about 15 feet off the ground.

I have to have it in that sweet spot or it won't pickup anything.

I live in Custer right down 86 from you.

Yeah I think I need to raise my current antenna.

I have radio shack largest antenna up but its only about 15 feet off the ground.

I have to have it in that sweet spot or it won't pickup anything.

I have the Radio Shack Ru-150 I think it was the largest they had at the time. It is probably up about 20-25 feet with a Channel Master 7777 pre-amp.

You are probably a little closer to the towers than me, I'm about 3 miles from Franklin Crossroads off 86.

Mike T

Got a HP-S4253 42 inch plasma wont power on standby light blinks and tv makes a clicking noise every 5 seconds.Anybody know of a repair shop in jeffersonville area that could tell me whats wrong at a decent price?Hard to find a repair thats works on plasmas.

There's a guy that repairs TV's over on 131 between Clarksville and Sellersburg. I can't remember the name of the place, but I'll look tonight and get back to you. It can't hurt to call.

The place is called Martin's TV repair. I've had several electronic items repaired there in the past. IDK if he can do plasmas, but it's just a phone call. 246-2611 I guess it is still a Sellersburg address at that point.

I believe the only big 4 station going back to VHF after the the "Big Switch" is WHAS 11. According to the Phase 2 requests from the FCC all the others WAVE 3, WLKY 32 and WDRB-41 and WYMO-58 will stay UHF.

I believe the only big 4 station going back to VHF after the the "Big Switch" is WHAS 11. According to the Phase 2 requests from the FCC all the others WAVE 3, WLKY 32 and WDRB-41 and WYMO-58 will stay UHF.

This is true. Low channels do not work well for digital. IE 3 will not move back, however I have not seen where 32, 41, etc will move back to their original channels or stay where they are now. As always I take my hat off to wave for two sub channels one of which is a slide and both of which are in violation of FCC rules.

This is true. Low channels do not work well for digital. IE 3 will not move back, however I have not seen where 32, 41, etc will move back to their original channels or stay where they are now. As always I take my hat off to wave for two sub channels one of which is a slide and both of which are in violation of FCC rules.

This is from the FCC Phase 2:

#048 Louisville, Kentucky
Station network Temp Final Elevation Power License
WAVE DT NBC 03 47 47 1286' 1000 kW DA 20080219AYD
WHAS DT ABC 11 55 11 1286' 5.20 kW ND 20080219AJM Will reduce TV-11 on 10/30/08, then flash-cut on 02/17/09.
WKPC DT PBS 15 17 17 777.' 60.3 kW DA 20080213ADF
WBNA DT ION 21 08 08 653.' 27.0 kW DA 20080206AAO
WKZT DT PBS 23 43 43 584.' 61.0 kW DA 20080213ADQ
WLKY DT CBS 32 26 26 1286' 600. kW DA 20080219ARQ
WBKI DT CW- 34 19 19 1214' 1000 kW DA 20080219BKP
WDRB DT FOX 41 49 49 1281' 1000 kW DA 20080219AWW
WMYO DT MyN 58 51 51 1281' 1000 kW DA 20080219AXA
WKMJ DT PBS 68 38 38 715.' 61.6 kW DA 20080213ACZ

Since I seem only to recieve the 1000 KW stations I'm not to worried about WHAS 11 change.

OK here is the final Phase 3 channel selections for the DTV conversion for Louisville.

#048 Louisville, Kentucky
WAVE DT NBC 03 47 47 1286' 1000 kW DA 20080219AYD
WHAS DT ABC 11 55 11 1286' 5.20 kW ND 20080219AJM Will reduce TV-11 on 10/30/08, then flash-cut on 02/17/09.
WKPC DT PBS 15 17 17 777.' 60.3 kW DA 20080213ADF
WBNA DT ION 21 08 08 653.' 27.0 kW DA 20080206AAO
WKZT DT PBS 23 43 43 584.' 61.0 kW DA 20080213ADQ
WLKY DT CBS 32 26 26 1286' 600. kW DA 20080219ARQ
WBKI DT CW- 34 19 19 1214' 1000 kW DA 20080219BKP
WDRB DT FOX 41 49 49 1281' 1000 kW DA 20080219AWW
WMYO DT MyN 58 51 51 1281' 1000 kW DA 20080219AXA
WKMJ DT PBS 68 38 38 715.' 61.6 kW DA 20080213ACZ

Got a HP-S4253 42 inch plasma wont power on standby light blinks and tv makes a clicking noise every 5 seconds.Anybody know of a repair shop in jeffersonville area that could tell me whats wrong at a decent price?Hard to find a repair thats works on plasmas.

[shameless plug]
I know this comes late, but just so everyone knows... my Dad runs Clarksdale TV at Shelby and Broadway in downtown Louisville. The place has been open since 1938 and he sells and repairs all makes and models of Television. They're also a Toshiba-authorized warranty repair center.

Not too many small places left that repair TVs -- it's a dying profession. Dad's probably one of the best technicians in Louisville and he'll do his best to take care of you. His name is Donny and if you tell him his son referred you on an Internet bulletin board, he'll get a real kick out of it. ;)
[/shameless plug]

:p

[shameless plug]
I know this comes late, but just so everyone knows... my Dad runs Clarksdale TV at Shelby and Broadway in downtown Louisville. The place has been open since 1938 and he sells and repairs all makes and models of Television. They're also a Toshiba-authorized warranty repair center.

Not too many small places left that repair TVs -- it's a dying profession. Dad's probably one of the best technicians in Louisville and he'll do his best to take care of you. His name is Donny and if you tell him his son referred you on an Internet bulletin board, he'll get a real kick out of it. ;)
[/shameless plug]

:p

Here is an unbiased shameless plug for Donny at Clarksdale TV. He worked on my Toshiba and did a great job. He is a very nice man - you can be proud.

Any rumours on next round of HD channels for Insight and when they might be coming?

Anybody know if 41 digital channel is down not getting it or 58?

Anybody know if 41 digital channel is down not getting it or 58?

Look to be down... I'm getting 0% for both

Yes they are off the air.

I see when I go to Dish Network Guide I see a Channel 75 that says HD in your local area... When I go to it on the guide the display comes up not available.

Does that mean Louisville is close to going HD on Dish Network?

I wouldn't count on it. All of Dish got channel 75 and it comes up unavailable.

Any rumours on next round of HD channels for Insight and when they might be coming?

I emailed Insight about this and haven't heard back. I also called them on an unrelated issue and asked about HD channels. The CSR was very nice but didn't have a definite answer. She did however say that they do have plans to adds more HD channels and are looking into it and that they would like to eliminate some analog channels to free up bandwidth. Not really anything definite but I thought I'd post the info. It seems to me that Insight is very silent about future HD plans and could use a little more transparency.

Acoording to a posting in John Belski's blog at WAVE3.

Today, (Jun 30) WAVE starts doing their newscasts in HD....

They will be the first in Louisville to do so...

Starting this evening at 5 PM WAVE news will be in HD but only the studio shots, the outside reports will still be in SD. I big step in the right direction.

Yep, lookin' good!

Some of the outside reports looked HD. Some looked like upconverted SD but it could just be overcompression.

Some of the outside reports looked HD. Some looked like upconverted SD but it could just be overcompression.
Reports outside of studio are 16:9 SD.

hopefullly this will spur the other locals into joining WAVE with HD news

Tonight was the first night I'd had the news on this week (we only watch WAVE3 news) and was very pleasantly surprised to see it in HD! Thanks, WAVE! And the on-location shots look great, too.

I even DVR'd the news so I could watch it again. :D

Reports outside of studio are 16:9 SD.

Looks alot better than streached 4:3 SD.

Wave 3 even have a crawler for weather etc that works in Hi def. I was watching 32 the other night an a message came up to tune to the analogue channel for the weather crawler.

Recorded the two Stevie Nicks concerts off 15.3. Lots of audio breakups.

Never had this problem when HD was on 15.4.

PQ was fine, just the audio.

Recorded the two Stevie Nicks concerts off 15.3. Lots of audio breakups.

Never had this problem when HD was on 15.4.

PQ was fine, just the audio.

I recorded them from the master satellite feed at 1080i at 18 mbps looked and sounded great. Takes a 4 foot dish on AMC3 KU band for reception.

Mike T

Glen,

I've forgot are you on cable or off-air?and what did you capture it on?

William

OTA, Dish 622 DVR

Okay, another question,

Does it handle KET1 and KET2 okay or does it have the same issues with them?

William

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this question but I figured it was the best chance to get a response.

I live south of Elizabethtown and watch all of my digital content OTA using a TiVo HD and Toshiba rear projection HDTV. Several months ago, I started noticing a video glitch in the WBKI HD programming. Particularly Reaper, Smallville and Friday Night Smackdown!. The problem is a video glitch that occurs mostly during the beginning of the broadcast. The glitch can be best described as a 1/2 second video freeze. The audio continues, only the video screws up. Usually it occurs every 24-25 seconds. Lately the frequency has been more unpredictable. This does not happen on anything but High Def content. All standard def and analog (Comcast Cable) is glitch free. This week's episode of Reaper started out with several glitches in the first minute or two then it dropped from 16:9 HD to 4:3 SD pillared video. Smallville last night appeared glitch free.

I reported the glitch to WBKI and was corresponding via email with Mac Powas (Chief Engineer) and Nathan Bentley (Hub Control Manager) in regards to the glitch. Supposedly they replaced a pre-amp on the satellite dish but the problem remains. I've continued to report problems to them, but have not had a reply since June 26.

I am posting here in hopes that I can determine if it is my equipment that is causing the problem or if it is on their end. If anyone is having problems with the High Def programming please post it. I'd really like to find out if this problem is mine or theirs.

It's not your equipment. I had the same issue on Reaper during the regular season with both Insight cable and OTA. It occurs on both my Cable box and also my HTPC so it is definitely something in the stream. I haven't bothered to look at the stream to see what it is though.

It's not your equipment. I had the same issue on Reaper during the regular season with both Insight cable and OTA. It occurs on both my Cable box and also my HTPC so it is definitely something in the stream. I haven't bothered to look at the stream to see what it is though.
That's good to know. Do you still have this problem?

To be honest, I haven't been watching the reruns but I can let you know next week.

Jeapordy looks great tonight in HD on WLKY. When did they start showing it in HD? The commericals are stretch though.

Several months ago, I started noticing a video glitch in the WBKI HD programming. Particularly Reaper, Smallville and Friday Night Smackdown!. The problem is a video glitch that occurs mostly during the beginning of the broadcast. The glitch can be best described as a 1/2 second video freeze. The audio continues, only the video screws up. Usually it occurs every 24-25 seconds.

They've had trouble with this since the first day of HD passthrough. Severity and frequency vary. I did watch most of "Supernatural" on Thursday and it was mostly glitch free.

They've had trouble with this since the first day of HD passthrough. Severity and frequency vary. I did watch most of "Supernatural" on Thursday and it was mostly glitch free.
It's comforting to know that it's not just me seeing it.

Okay, another question,

Does it handle KET1 and KET2 okay or does it have the same issues with them?

William

Just checked KET1 and KET2. No problems with those channels.

Try KET HD tonight.. I made a couple of changes that might help...

To be honest, I haven't been watching the reruns but I can let you know next week.
I watched Reaper and about 1/2 of Smallville and both looked good w/no glitches. Friday Night Smackdown! had a few.

I have had insight cable service since June 2007 with no problems. Suddenly, in early June 2008, I have had the following problems with my three HD TVs:

Samsung LN-S4096D (40" LCD) x 2
Insight Motorolla Cable Card
CONSTANT problem: Digital tiling (bottom third of screen) and audio glitching on ESPN 1 HD, ESPN 2 HD, and TNT HD. It seems the problem has gotten progressively worse. Other HD and standard channels are not affected.
TROUBLESHOOT: Insight has replaced the cable cards, replaced the signal amplifier. Insight also tried hooking up a DVR to these TVs (instead of the cable card) and the problem manifests itself in a different way (TNT HD will seem as if one frame is spliced out ever second).

Insight has also checked the signal (for each channel) at the post, at the amp, and at the TV. They have even run a separate line from the post outside directly to my CableCard TV. Nothing has solved the problem.

There is also a MINOR but separate problem with my 56" DLP which has a DVR (no cable card). It seems this may be a related issue...

Samsung LN-S5687W (56" DLP) x 1
Insight Motorolla DVR
Intermittent problem: Screen will freeze after watching ESPN 1 HD for a few hours. Audio still works while screen is frozen. Problem will resolve after switching channels.
Troubleshoot: Insight has replaced the DVR. Problem has not resolved.


Has anyone heard of these problems?

I am more concerned with the CableCard problems I am having. The DVR problem is not that annoying (just change the channel) but I think they may be related to the same problem as they occured at the same time. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Whats up with the truely horrible audio of the olympics. I am watching it on channel 3 with DirecTV. It is like the center channel is muted and the left/right are overpowering...amounts to not being able to hear the anouncers at all over the din. Ended up just watching SD channel.

Is anyone else experiencing this.

Whats up with the truely horrible audio of the olympics. I am watching it on channel 3 with DirecTV. It is like the center channel is muted and the left/right are overpowering...amounts to not being able to hear the anouncers at all over the din. Ended up just watching SD channel.

Is anyone else experiencing this.

I had this issue too... What are you using to listen? I changed the audio settings on my Sony TV... Menu > Settings > Audio >Effect - Mine was set to WOW- turning to OFF fixed the issue.

I am listening to my home theater setup. I doubt the settings are wrong as I haven't messed with those in over a year. Also the problem is only on the Olymipics and even then only on certain things. Swimming was not bad but beach volley ball was terible

I noticed the same thing watching via OTA. I only have a very basic audio setup and I could barely hear the commentators over the background noise. I've noticed this more than once on WAVE 3 and not just the Olympics.

On a different topic. I am considering signing up for a Comcast bundle to get my cable bill down to a more manageable amount. I would like to hear from anyone here that has Comcast in Hardin County and is using a TiVoHD with cable cards. I want to know the good and the bad. Especially the bad. Do they charge you for both cards? Were you able to get a M-card? Thanks in advance.

I noticed the same thing watching via OTA. I only have a very basic audio setup and I could barely hear the commentators over the background noise. I've noticed this more than once on WAVE 3 and not just the Olympics.

Ooohh ... yuck! Just for kicks, I tuned into WAVE (instead of WLEX) during some of the "OC" last night. It's clear something has gone horribly wrong with the audio mix from WAVE ... I wonder if they are trying to do faux 5.1 when there appears to be a bone-fide 5.1 mix available from the network.

I have had insight cable service since June 2007 with no problems. Suddenly, in early June 2008, I have had the following problems with my three HD TVs:

Samsung LN-S4096D (40" LCD) x 2
Insight Motorolla Cable Card
CONSTANT problem: Digital tiling (bottom third of screen) and audio glitching on ESPN 1 HD, ESPN 2 HD, and TNT HD. It seems the problem has gotten progressively worse. Other HD and standard channels are not affected.
TROUBLESHOOT: Insight has replaced the cable cards, replaced the signal amplifier. Insight also tried hooking up a DVR to these TVs (instead of the cable card) and the problem manifests itself in a different way (TNT HD will seem as if one frame is spliced out ever second).

Insight has also checked the signal (for each channel) at the post, at the amp, and at the TV. They have even run a separate line from the post outside directly to my CableCard TV. Nothing has solved the problem.

There is also a MINOR but separate problem with my 56" DLP which has a DVR (no cable card). It seems this may be a related issue...

Samsung LN-S5687W (56" DLP) x 1
Insight Motorolla DVR
Intermittent problem: Screen will freeze after watching ESPN 1 HD for a few hours. Audio still works while screen is frozen. Problem will resolve after switching channels.
Troubleshoot: Insight has replaced the DVR. Problem has not resolved.


Has anyone heard of these problems?

I am more concerned with the CableCard problems I am having. The DVR problem is not that annoying (just change the channel) but I think they may be related to the same problem as they occured at the same time. Any suggestions? Thanks!

I have the Moto6412 box hooked up to a Samsung HL61A750 and get the frozen screen on ESPNHD. It seems that when I turned my TV off after watching ESPN, when I turn it back on a couple of hours later, I will get a frozen ESPN screen. I change the channel, then back and it works fine after that. Occasionally it freezes after that, but only for a few seconds.

My bedroom TV is a Toshiba 32HL95 with a cable card. I don't really notice the picture freezing on this set up, but there are horrible audio pops on ESPNHD and ESPN2HD. It only seems to occur when commercials begin and then goes away when the broadcast returns.

I haven't called Insight about the problems, yet. Let me know how you situation turns out.

I have the Moto6412 box hooked up to a Samsung HL61A750 and get the frozen screen on ESPNHD. It seems that when I turned my TV off after watching ESPN, when I turn it back on a couple of hours later, I will get a frozen ESPN screen. I change the channel, then back and it works fine after that. Occasionally it freezes after that, but only for a few seconds.

My bedroom TV is a Toshiba 32HL95 with a cable card. I don't really notice the picture freezing on this set up, but there are horrible audio pops on ESPNHD and ESPN2HD. It only seems to occur when commercials begin and then goes away when the broadcast returns.

I haven't called Insight about the problems, yet. Let me know how you situation turns out.


Thank you SO much for replying. Insight is "working on it", apparently, and the will "get back to me" this week (although, I have told them about this problem since June).

It would be tremendously helpful if you could call Insight and let them know you are having similar problems. Apparently, according to Insight, I am the "only one" with the above problems... but, in actuality, people who are experiencing the freezing problems just havent called in to let them know...
Which is understandable, considering the solution to the DVR freezing problem on ESPN HD is to change the channel. BUT, unfortunately, changing the channel will NOT solve the "digital tiling" on ESPN/TNT HD on the CableCard TVs.

I believe that the "digital tiling" problem on my CableCard TVs is directly related to the "freezing" problem on my DVR TV... just manifesting itself in a different way.

If you do call in, I would REALLY appreciate it. Tell them your problems with your DVR and your CableCard TV. Demand to speak to DON GARISON who is the tech supervisor. He is aware of the problem I am having (you are more then welcome to state my problems with my DVR and CableCard TVs). The more people who call in with similar complaints, the sooner this issue will be resolved!

Lemme know what you plan to do! Thanks!

I am having the "freezing" on the same three channels. I have the newest MOTO DVR and a 32" Sharp Aquos... I thought it was just a glitch until I noticed you guys talking about it as-well.

Try KET HD tonight.. I made a couple of changes that might help...

Watching the convention on Dish 9445. Switched to 15.3 to check it out....


15.3 is jerky. Audio fine...

In Louisville, KY, where I live, there's a Love/Hate relationship going on with Insight, our cable company. Insight is the only cable company in Louisville. If you don't want them then you have to be able to get Directv or DishTV(which I can't get because of the location of my townhouse). Anyway, Michael Willner, CEO of Insight, has his own blog and this was part of a customer's post:

"Michael, I don't know why our local cable companies (Insight, and Time Warner and WOW) don't mention their superior bitrate for high definition programming in any of their marketing.
Recently AT&T has come into our town, going door-to-door and blatantly lying to the public, promising fiber optic TV service into their home (it's just IPTV over ADSL2) and jamming the airwaves with ads bragging about how many more HD channels they have than the local cable competition. The picture quality AT&T delivers is a blur of twice-compressed MPEG artifacts, and if there is enough camera movement the overall picture can get so bad that standard def can seem like an upgrade.
I don't know how satellite providers are able to deliver so much high-def content either, I'm assuming they are recompressing their broadcast streams as well. " Posted by Clay Foody/Columbus, OH

My question... is what "Clay" said about the satellite providers true? I know with Insight I get drop outs in sound all the time and my picture "pixels" on me at times. I find it hard to believe that satellite HD would be so much worst then cable. Not ever having satellite I really have no knowledge to make that judgement. The reason this is bugging me is because Insight has very few HD channels in their HD package yet they charge a lot more then the satellite companies.

Any Forum Members have any info on this or opinions?

I have had Insight for over 11 years and really never had a problem with them, but since I upgraded to HD last May, I'm not pleased at all...specially with the Moto DCH-6416 DVR/HD STB.
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

Satellite HD looks great. I don't get pixelation or audio dropouts on directv. The picture isn't overcompressed anymore since they have added new sats and switched to MPEG4 compression. There are a bunch of HD channels and more supposed to launch this month too. Dish network has added capacity and added almost as many channels as directv, also with mpeg4 compression. I hear the picture there is great too. As usual, dish has a few more movie channels, directv has more sports channels, otherwise they offer basically the same programming.

I have Direct TV and the HD is great. I have no problems at all and when I go to people’s homes that have cable I invite them over to see over 100 channels of great HD. At this point Cable cannot compare to Direct TV.

I have Dish and have a neighbour on Insight. His comments are that my HD looks 10 times better than his. One night I was over at his place and there were 1 inch white blocks on the black portion of his picture on a 40" plasma.

Insight keeps knocking on my front door trying to get me back. I tell them no thanks because of their HD quality and quantity.

Juppers, STEVENSHS, and gdarwin,
Thank you all for your info:)...I have a friend who lives in IN, and he has Directv HD and he said he loves it. He also said he's never had a problem with siginal lost during bad weather.

I rent my townhouse and the management won't allow dishes connected to the building in anyway. I had Directv come out, they even sent out a supervisor, but both the installer & the supervisor said that I couldn't get a clean path to the satellite for HD because of the trees behind our yard.

I'm thinking about calling Dish and seeing if they can help me. Alot of the renters here have Directv or Dish, but their townhouses are farther away from the trees.

Any other Forum members have any more opinions or info, please let me know.

Thanks again,
Ghpr13:)

Any other Forum members have any more opinions or info, please let me know.

Thanks again,
Ghpr13:)[/QUOTE]

Well if someone close has Direct TV and they would let you.....you could add a multi switch to there feed and run the lines to your unit.

Any other Forum members have any more opinions or info, please let me know.

Thanks again,
Ghpr13:)

Well if someone close has Direct TV and they would let you.....you could add a multi switch to there feed and run the lines to your unit.[/QUOTE]

I like the ideal, but he's in Clarksville, I'm in Louisville...it would take alot of cable...:D

Ghpr13

Well if someone close has Direct TV and they would let you.....you could add a multi switch to there feed and run the lines to your unit.

I like the ideal, but he's in Clarksville, I'm in Louisville...it would take alot of cable...:D

Ghpr13[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I thought you indicated another townhouse in your complex had Direct TV.

Is anyone having trouble with the sound dropping out on Insight's Digital/HD?
I have a Samsung LN40A550 connected to Insight's Moto DCH-6416 DVR/HDTV STB. The connection is via HDMI. I also get alot of sound drop outs when using the DVR in playback of recorded programs.

Ghpr13:confused:

Is anyone having any trouble picking up WDRB or WHAS's OTA HD feeds? I have not been able to pick up their signal at all since yesterday's windstorm and was wondering if either tower has been hit or if they are just not broadcasting at this time...

Is anyone having any trouble picking up WDRB or WHAS's OTA HD feeds? I have not been able to pick up their signal at all since yesterday's windstorm and was wondering if either tower has been hit or if they are just not broadcasting at this time...

Whew! Glad I'm not the only one. I was minutes away from making a trip to the roof to fuss with my antenna. I will wait and see if anyone else chimes in now.

I also am not receving 11, 41, and 58 digital. They have been out since yesterday.

Power is out on the Knobs.

I'm getting WDRB now. I guess power is back on now.

Its back..

Is anyone having trouble with the sound dropping out on Insight's Digital/HD?
I have a Samsung LN40A550 connected to Insight's Moto DCH-6416 DVR/HDTV STB. The connection is via HDMI. I also get alot of sound drop outs when using the DVR in playback of recorded programs.

Ghpr13:confused:

Any suggestions or comments?

Ghpr13:)

Any suggestions or comments?

Ghpr13:)

Contact insight

I used to get this w/ the older HD DVR (orange led display) the newer one w/ blue LED display is much better.

I used to get this w/ the older HD DVR (orange led display) the newer one w/ blue LED display is much better.

Jesse502,
Thanks for that reply. Does your sound drop out while you're just viewing TV, or when you're playing back what you recorded, or both?
Ghpr13:)

Some good news for Insight Customers. It looks like we might finally get some more HD channels added to the lineup.

http://www.michaelsinsight.com/2008/09/digital-40----e.html#more

Some good news for Insight Customers. It looks like we might finally get some more HD channels added to the lineup.

http://www.michaelsinsight.com/2008/09/digital-40----e.html#more

This is great news! What does this translate to in terms of additional channels? I count 31 on their website. Does this mean 20 new channels?

Some good news for Insight Customers. It looks like we might finally get some more HD channels added to the lineup.

http://www.michaelsinsight.com/2008/09/digital-40----e.html#moreToo little too late IMO. A lot of us have been screaming for SciFi HD for over a year. I just made the decision recently to give up my cable boxes (as soon as my new HTPC motherboard comes in) and this announcement will not change that. If they had done this six months ago, I may have reconsidered.

I live just south of Etown and want to turn my antenna toward Bowling Green to get WBKO......anyone know of a site I can find out where the tower is located? Like what degree of north?? Any help would be appreciated.

Was any one as frustrated as I was while watching the Emmys with the way it kept switching from HD to SD because of the Digital 2009 & the LGE crawl?
Can't we watch a program without being "reminded" so many times about these things? Or if they must run the crawl, can't they do it while still broadcasting in HD?

Ghpr13

I live just south of Etown and want to turn my antenna toward Bowling Green to get WBKO......anyone know of a site I can find out where the tower is located? Like what degree of north?? Any help would be appreciated.http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx

...anyone know of a site I can find out where the tower is located? Like what degree of north?? Any help would be appreciated.

I got this from the FCC website. I hope it helps you.

WBKO Tower Location (http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapgen/gif?lon=-86.435278&lat=37.063611&iwd=750&iht=750&mark=-86.435278,37.063611,bluestar,WBKO_BOWLING%20GREEN_KY&on=water,miscell,counties,places,CITIES,streets&off=GRID,shorelin&ht=.2&wid=.2)

NashDigie signing off.

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx

Thanks, but this site claims that I can only get 3 digital stations when I can actually get 8. I tdoes not show me the WBKO staion therefore I don't see the direction of the tower. Any more help?? Thanks again though.

http://www.tvfool.com

Try it, it will very likely be more helpful than AntennaWeb, which is notorious for being very conservative.

- Trip

http://www.tvfool.com

Try it, it will very likely be more helpful than AntennaWeb, which is notorious for being very conservative.

- Trip

Quite Excellent!!!!!!!!!!

I have had insight cable service since June 2007 with no problems. Suddenly, in early June 2008, I have had the following problems with my three HD TVs:

Samsung LN-S4096D (40" LCD) x 2
Insight Motorolla Cable Card
CONSTANT problem: Digital tiling (bottom third of screen) and audio glitching on ESPN 1 HD, ESPN 2 HD, and TNT HD. It seems the problem has gotten progressively worse. Other HD and standard channels are not affected.
TROUBLESHOOT: Insight has replaced the cable cards, replaced the signal amplifier. Insight also tried hooking up a DVR to these TVs (instead of the cable card) and the problem manifests itself in a different way (TNT HD will seem as if one frame is spliced out ever second).

Insight has also checked the signal (for each channel) at the post, at the amp, and at the TV. They have even run a separate line from the post outside directly to my CableCard TV. Nothing has solved the problem.

There is also a MINOR but separate problem with my 56" DLP which has a DVR (no cable card). It seems this may be a related issue...

Samsung LN-S5687W (56" DLP) x 1
Insight Motorolla DVR
Intermittent problem: Screen will freeze after watching ESPN 1 HD for a few hours. Audio still works while screen is frozen. Problem will resolve after switching channels.
Troubleshoot: Insight has replaced the DVR. Problem has not resolved.


Has anyone heard of these problems?

I am more concerned with the CableCard problems I am having. The DVR problem is not that annoying (just change the channel) but I think they may be related to the same problem as they occured at the same time. Any suggestions? Thanks!



So here is an update on what has happened. I contacted the CEO Mike Wilner about my problem because I was tired of getting the run around from Don Garrison. Mike immediately sent me an email on the same night addressing the issue. The next day, Stafford Miller (Tech Op Manager) and about 4 other people from Insight came to my house to troubleshoot. In the end, they brought out their own Sony Bravia Cablecard TV and hooked it up and it worked fine, no tiling at all. So, they concluded that it was my digital tuners on my Samsung TVs that are bad.

Which, I think is complete BS. What are the chances of BOTH of my Samsung Cablecard LCDs to work fine for 9 months and then all of a sudden BOTH are getting digital tiling at the exact same time. Insight couldnt answer this question, they bascially said, "well, our cablecard Sony works fine, so its probably your TVs".

I called Samsung, apparently my 1 year warranty has just ran out 1 month ago and the tech said he has had similar problems with CableCards and Samsungs, and basically all he can do is replace the digital tuner (at $700 each) and he said he has done this multiple times and EVERY SINGLE time it NEVER solved the problem. Samsung said its either a signal problem from Insight or its an incompatiblity with their motorolla cable cards. I paid about $1100 for each TV so replacing the tuners was not an option (in addition to the fact that it has NEVER solved the problem according to the samsung tech).

At this point, I really had 3 choices: (1) Buy 2 Sony Bravia CableCard TVs... (2) Get Satellite TV and deal with the hassel of ordering new stuff, hooking up stuff, getting satellite recievers for all 6 of my TVs at home... or (3) replace the 2 cablecards with 2 DVR Cableboxes.

I choose option #3. With the 2 DVR Cableboxes, I have no problems with digital tiling. The picture/sound are fine. The thing that sucks is that its an additional $30/month ($15 for each cable box). On the bright side, I do have the onscreen menu, the DVR, and NO digital tiling.

I now have a total of 3 DVR Cableboxes and 3 regular coax connections in my house, total of 6 TVs. At this point, I am glad I dont have to deal with this issue anymore as this has been a real pain.

This already posted in the main television section, but I thought I would repost it here. The article does not mention Louisville, but if you go to Insight's page they list Louisville getting the same upgrade.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/insight100308.htm

Insight's new HD Channels in Louisville will include:

A&E
AMC
Big Ten Network
Bravo
Cinemax
CNBC
CNN
Food Network
Fox Business
Fox News
HGTV
History Channel
Science Channel
SciFi
Starz
Travel Channel
USA Network

On Demand:
Ambient
Fear.net
HDMovies (Action, Comedy, Drama,Horror & SciFi,Kids)
National Geographic
Sundance Channel

Glad to see new HD channels being added to the lineup; I am a bit disappointed that The Weather Channel is not one of the new channels. It might not seem important to most people, but the weather plays a big part in my activities and I keep up with weather info on TWC. Seeing it in HD would have been nice. Perhaps they will add it later.

On another note, anyone heard any rumours when WHAS or WLKY might begin broadcasting local news in HD?

Insight's new HD Channels in Louisville will include:

A&E
AMC
Big Ten Network
Bravo
Cinemax
CNBC
CNN
Food Network
Fox Business
Fox News
HGTV
History Channel
Science Channel
SciFi
Starz
Travel Channel
USA Network

On Demand:
Ambient
Fear.net
HDMovies (Action, Comedy, Drama,Horror & SciFi,Kids)
National Geographic
Sundance Channel


I'm glad too that Insight finnally got on the ball and added some more HD channels, but my concern is how many will be offered for free. I'm sure Cinemax & Starz will be at an added cost, but I hope the rest are just added for free. I have Basic & Classic plus the HD Pak and there are a number of digital channels I can't get unless I "upgrade" to another "Digital Package". Yet both satellite companies offer these digital channels whenever you upgrade to any HD Package. One thing that really makes no sense to me is that I'm able to get TVOne in analog on channel 24, but have to "upgrade" to that other digital package to receive it on digital channel 167 at a cost of either $8.00 or $12.00 more a month.

Ghpr13:confused:

On another note, anyone heard any rumours when WHAS or WLKY might begin broadcasting local news in HD?

Who cares about them? Give me WDRB and Jennifer Baileys in HD! :D

Who cares about them? Give me WDRB and Jennifer Baileys in HD! :D

I saw her downtown today. She was meeting her fiancee for lunch - who is a 6 foot, 6 inch hulking police officer. :eek:


On a personal note, I recently purchased a Panasonic 42pz80u, and have Insight's basic cable. I'm able to get WHAS 11, WDRB 41, WMYO 58, and The CW all working in QAM, but WAVE 3 and WLKY 32 don't come in no matter what I do. Would a signal booster help, or is this a problem with insight?

On a personal note, I recently purchased a Panasonic 42pz80u, and have Insight's basic cable. I'm able to get WHAS 11, WDRB 41, WMYO 58, and The CW all working in QAM, but WAVE 3 and WLKY 32 don't come in no matter what I do. Would a signal booster help, or is this a problem with insight?Since you are picking up the programs on physical channel 71 and 78 but only missing the ones on channel 72, I would guess it's a signal issue. I just rescanned on my Vizio to make sure it wasn't something in the stream causing the problem and I picked up WAVE and WLKY just fine.

Since you are picking up the programs on physical channel 71 and 78 but only missing the ones on channel 72, I would guess it's a signal issue. I just rescanned on my Vizio to make sure it wasn't something in the stream causing the problem and I picked up WAVE and WLKY just fine.

Thanks. I rescanned this morning and those two channels came up, so everything is in order now.

is it just my box or is it damn near impossible to get the insight HD DVR remote to work? even when i put the remote right up to the box it takes multiple button mashings to get the stupid thing to register. with directv i could aim the remote to the opposite wall, but with this thing it's an exercise to just channel up.

am i the only one experiencing this? should i try to exchange the box? or is it a common problem that'll drive me back to directv at the end of the year?

is it just my box or is it damn near impossible to get the insight HD DVR remote to work? even when i put the remote right up to the box it takes multiple button mashings to get the stupid thing to register. with directv i could aim the remote to the opposite wall, but with this thing it's an exercise to just channel up.

am i the only one experiencing this? should i try to exchange the box? or is it a common problem that'll drive me back to directv at the end of the year?You're not the only one but it's not that it takes multiple button presses. A lot of times, there is a delay between pressing the button and the box responding. This and the "Space not available" message (when it's only 30% full) is why I'm about to drop digital cable and my two DVR boxes, 60 new HD channels be damned.

I saw her downtown today. She was meeting her fiancee for lunch - who is a 6 foot, 6 inch hulking police officer. :eek:


On a personal note, I recently purchased a Panasonic 42pz80u, and have Insight's basic cable. I'm able to get WHAS 11, WDRB 41, WMYO 58, and The CW all working in QAM, but WAVE 3 and WLKY 32 don't come in no matter what I do. Would a signal booster help, or is this a problem with insight?

Actually, Jennifer married that police officer (lucky man)

To answer the second question, I get WAVE and WLKY fine on my Samsung 42 inch plasma in QAM, so it sounds like Insight needs to increase your signal strength. They had to do that for me.

is it just my box or is it damn near impossible to get the insight HD DVR remote to work? even when i put the remote right up to the box it takes multiple button mashings to get the stupid thing to register. with directv i could aim the remote to the opposite wall, but with this thing it's an exercise to just channel up.

am i the only one experiencing this? should i try to exchange the box? or is it a common problem that'll drive me back to directv at the end of the year?

I have the same problem. I had Insight give me what they said was a "New" remote and I still have the same problems. Along with the delay factor they must have a really low infra red sending siginal because I have more trouble getting the STB to accept the siginal during sunny days then I do at night. I have a Harmony 670 that I have downloaded the codes for the Insight remote and I can bounce that off of walls or use it from the kitchen, but that still doesn't help in the delay factor of the STB. I don't understand why Insight can't provide a better DVR/STB. There's much better boxes out there then this Motorola box. On top of it, Insight doesn't even allow the box to use all the things Motorola has in it...like the USB port and other funtions it could do.

Ghpr13

I have Directv Louisville locals in HD. I notice during the end of the 6 pm local news and beginning of ABC world news, the picture goes in the ABC HD feed to full screen, but tonight this didn't happen. I also notice this on Good Morning America, during the local weather breaks, it shifts from Network HD feed to local feed, only it is staying in the "local" feed even on ABC HD programming, at least tonight it did anyway, fri, oct 24. I notice this happening tonight on 20/20 as well.

The sation must switch back to HD for the Network after a local non HD feed. If the person in master control does not do the switch the Network will be in SD. There are rare occasions when there is a problem with the network feed but, most of the time it is human error. You can always call the news room of the station and ask that they inform mater control to do the switch.

Yes, the definitely do switch from SD local feed back to Network local feed. You can see this easily during Good Morning America during the Nat'l/local weather breaks. On Directv, if a show is in HD it will be displayed on the guide and I've never known it to be wrong. Last night the ran 20/20 in SD and also I noticed re-runs of lost (late night) in SD. That show has been filmed in HD since day one. Funny, on another local Louisville network, Fox I think, Boston Legal re-runs were playing and in SD. HMMMMMM

I can pick up all the local channels in HD OTA. For example WLKY is channel 32-1. Fox has always been 41-1 but recently I've noticed that channel has disappeared. Pressing 41-1 does nothing for me anymore. Anybody else have this issue? Thanks

41-1 works fine for me. I can tune it from both my Tv and my Direct TV receivers OTA.

I have the same problem. I had Insight give me what they said was a "New" remote and I still have the same problems. Along with the delay factor they must have a really low infra red sending siginal because I have more trouble getting the STB to accept the siginal during sunny days then I do at night. I have a Harmony 670 that I have downloaded the codes for the Insight remote and I can bounce that off of walls or use it from the kitchen, but that still doesn't help in the delay factor of the STB. I don't understand why Insight can't provide a better DVR/STB. There's much better boxes out there then this Motorola box. On top of it, Insight doesn't even allow the box to use all the things Motorola has in it...like the USB port and other funtions it could do.

Ghpr13

I agree these motorloa boxes are crap the box drives me insane with the signal delay

It appears that Insight will also be adding
Disney Channel HD and
ESPNU HD
to its HD lineup as part of the Digital 4.0 upgrade.
I have to agree about the Moto boxes. I am becoming more and more frustrated with them. They work 98% of the time fine for me. But occasionally a recorded program will not play back properly. It will playback fine and then at a certain point just locks up. You can't fast forward past the freeze or anything, you just have to delete the program and pray it will be on again so you can re-record it. Also, sometimes I get nothing but a blank green screen for the video when I playback a recorded program. You can fix this by going into the guide and exiting, but it still sucks.

It appears that Insight will also be adding
Disney Channel HD and
ESPNU HD
to its HD lineup as part of the Digital 4.0 upgrade.
I have to agree about the Moto boxes. I am becoming more and more frustrated with them. They work 98% of the time fine for me. But occasionally a recorded program will not play back properly. It will playback fine and then at a certain point just locks up. You can't fast forward past the freeze or anything, you just have to delete the program and pray it will be on again so you can re-record it. Also, sometimes I get nothing but a blank green screen for the video when I playback a recorded program. You can fix this by going into the guide and exiting, but it still sucks.

The newest problem that I'm having with the Moto box is out of the blue, when I pause a live program, or I try to rewind the program, the "password lock" box comes up. When I called Insight of course their answer was to unplug the box and let it reset a minute, which did work for the moment, but then the Insight tech person ask me if I "shut my cable box down at night?" when I said "no", she said "Well it's like a computer and uses a hard drive, and should be shut down each night." It was then I knew she didn't have a clue on problem solving for this cable box. What would be the point of having a cable box that you have to shut down at night? How are you able to record programs during the night? I have had a TiVo for the last 2 & 1/2 years and never had to "shut it down each night", and if I remember correctly, you shut down your computer to clear up & refresh your memory, not your hard drive.

One last thing, does anybody else have a problem on Fox, when watching an HD program like Cops or Terminator, with rewinding or fast forwarding, even when you have recorded the program? My Moto box will freeze up everytime on any Fox HD programs whenever I try to RW or FF whether the program is live or recorded.

Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

Called Insight today and a CSR informed me that half of the new HD channels will come online Dec. 3 followed by the rest on Dec. 13, for those interested.

so i finally had my box exchanged and it turns out i had an older model receiver. the newer model receiver is MUCH better with the remote. let's hope it stays that way...

but displacing the texas tech - oklahoma state (two top 10 teams) games to non-HD CW in favor of an EXHIBITION basketball game? that's unforgivable, insight.

Just noticed today, don't know how new it is, but Directv has picked up carriage of the CW in HD now.