Just noticed today, don't know how new it is, but Directv has picked up carriage of the CW in HD now.

About a month ago is when it was added. Nice to have but, I do not watch that much

About a month ago is when it was added. Nice to have but, I do not watch that muchI guess I had just depended on this thread to update me on such announcements, so I stopped checking my guide to see if they added the rest of the locals. Can't believe I missed out on a month of Supernatural in HD.

I just heard about Insight 4.0 today. I am a current customer (1 DVR and 1 CableCard). The brochure I received inferred that QAM would be part of the picture. I called Insight, and the lady I talked to did not know what QAM was and said that, even though the brochure says "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner", that STB and CableCard were going to be the only two ways to get HD with 4.0. Am I right to assume that QAM will be available? Is it now?

Thanks.

Called Insight today and a CSR informed me that half of the new HD channels will come online Dec. 3 followed by the rest on Dec. 13, for those interested.

Thanks for the update, looking forward to getting the added HD channels.

I just heard about Insight 4.0 today. I am a current customer (1 DVR and 1 CableCard). The brochure I received inferred that QAM would be part of the picture. I called Insight, and the lady I talked to did not know what QAM was and said that, even though the brochure says "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner", that STB and CableCard were going to be the only two ways to get HD with 4.0. Am I right to assume that QAM will be available? Is it now?

Thanks.

If you have a set with a QAM tuner built in, you can get the OTA channels (local channels) on that set without a cable STB now. I don't think this will change when the new HD channels arrive next month, but you won't get the new HD channels without your STB.

As some my know NBC will discontinue the weather plus feed now carried on WAVE 3.2. Almost a year ago The Tube went off the air and WAVE still airs a slide on 3.3 telling us the Tube is no longer available.

These sub channels take away bandwidth from HD broadcasts. So I wrote WAVE and asked if we could get the bandwidth restored to 3.1 for the best HD WAVE can offer. Well I am afraid it will not happen. Here is the response I received:

"This is a decision that will be made by our parent company, Raycom Media, not at the local level. My guess is due to the economic downturn for broadcasters, all the local stations will be adding more networks to its local channels in the near future. Thank you for taking the time to write."


I am sure that WAVE and Raycom have made a ton of money off the Tube slide. It is also interesting to note that the local station has no say on what they broadcast it is up to Raycom. So much for local television.

If you have a set with a QAM tuner built in, you can get the OTA channels (local channels) on that set without a cable STB now. I don't think this will change when the new HD channels arrive next month, but you won't get the new HD channels without your STB.
Wow - that's really stretching the definition of "most." QAM is not restricted to the OTA channels be definition, is it? This is just a decision that Insight has made to restrict QAM to those channels?

Wow - that's really stretching the definition of "most." QAM is not restricted to the OTA channels be definition, is it? This is just a decision that Insight has made to restrict QAM to those channels?All of those channels are QAM. The local channels are clear (unencrypted) QAM. QAM is a modulation scheme and all digital channels on Insight use it.

All of those channels are QAM. The local channels are clear (unencrypted) QAM. QAM is a modulation scheme and all digital channels on Insight use it.

Yep, I probably confused "Bruggles" with my post. I apologize; I should have stated a little more clearly that Insight carries all the local channels "in the clear", meaning if you have a set with a QAM tuner you get them "free" with a basic connection if you are hooked up to Insight cable, even without an STB hooked up to that set. You won't get any of the new HD channels "in the clear" on your TV without an STB, just like now.

Sorry for the confusion.

Hello,

I am wanting to get my local stations in HD but I can't seem to get the channels in for nothing!

Here is my antenna:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103087

I have this antenna installed on a pole about 20-25 foot in the air with a 75 to 300 ohm transformer.

I can't hardly pickup crap. I have it pointed towards Floyds Knobs and can't get any of the HD stations except Channel 23 out of Elizabethtown and Channel 21 out of Shepherdsville.

I'm about to give up on the crap and just say forget it but I thought I would seek some expert advice before I do throw the antenna in the middle of 86 and let a semi hit it.

I live in Custer ( Breckinridge County ) my ASL is 760. I live right on Hwy 86.

Thoughts/Recommendations/Advice/Counseling? LOL

Thanks

You might want to try a high gain UHF antenna. The one I use is a Winegard HD9095P. I'm 20 miles from the transmitters and this antenna works great. Looks like you are over 50 miles from the Knobs.

As I was driving south on 65 yesterday it looks like you have a lot of hills between you and the Knobs. You might have to put the antenna really high to get a decient signal

I have the same Radio Shack antenna up on my 2 story house just off 86 near Franklin Crossroads. I do have the Channel Master 7777 pre-amp mounted just below the antenna with RG-6 coax feed to the house.

I geat all four networks from Louisville pretty good with WDRB being the weakest. I also get KET on 23 and WBKI, ION on 21 and 58-1. I don't have a rotator and it is pointed to Louisville very carefully.

I would suggest the 7777 pre-amp as it is much better than anything from Radio Shack and get the antenna as high as you can.

Mike T

Heck, I have a CM4228 and a CM7777 preamp here in Lexington and I get all the Louisville stations pretty darn good. The CBS is the weakest, but that is the one I need the least. Our Fox is VHF low and horrible to try to get. WDRB is much easier.

Yep, I probably confused "Bruggles" with my post. I apologize; I should have stated a little more clearly that Insight carries all the local channels "in the clear", meaning if you have a set with a QAM tuner you get them "free" with a basic connection if you are hooked up to Insight cable, even without an STB hooked up to that set. You won't get any of the new HD channels "in the clear" on your TV without an STB, just like now.

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for clarifying that. So, when Insight says "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner", you all are sure that is just misleading advertising, and not that Insight is planning to carry most of the other HD channels "in the clear?"

Thanks again!

Thanks for clarifying that. So, when Insight says "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner", you all are sure that is just misleading advertising, and not that Insight is planning to carry most of the other HD channels "in the clear?"

Thanks again!

I too would like this cleared up. The information I read in Insight's Mailer, made it seem like all HD channels, except the "On-Demand" and certain HD channels like HD NET, HD Universal, etc., would be offered without a STB...That a STB is needed for the "On-Demand" channels. I haved e-mailed Insight last week about this issue and haven't received any answer from them yet...If Insight is "misleading" it's customers we need to ban together and fight them on this...It's one thing not to offer a feature, but quite another to print that you are offerring that feature, then say "no, that's not what we meant".
Ghpr13:confused:

"Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner"

I think this means you will get all of the new HD channels for no extra charge via your STB with HD tuner; not your TV equipped with a QAM tuner that you do not have an STB hooked up to, as the new HD channels will not be carried in the clear. Just like now, you will only be charged extra for the HD Pak, and if you subscribe to a premium channel like HBO or Showtime, you get that in HD as well.

This is how I understand it; I don't work for Insight and am not speaking for them. Obviously I too would like to see all of the HD channels carried in the clear over a basic connection and be able to watch them on my sets without an STB, but Insight is in the business to make money and that would not make much sense to do that.

Hope this helps a bit, and if you receive any info from Insight saying otherwise please post your update.

"Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner"

I think this means you will get all of the new HD channels for no extra charge via your STB with HD tuner; not your TV equipped with a QAM tuner that you do not have an STB hooked up to, as the new HD channels will not be carried in the clear. Just like now, you will only be charged extra for the HD Pak, and if you subscribe to a premium channel like HBO or Showtime, you get that in HD as well.

This is how I understand it; I don't work for Insight and am not speaking for them. Obviously I too would like to see all of the HD channels carried in the clear over a basic connection and be able to watch them on my sets without an STB, but Insight is in the business to make money and that would not make much sense to do that.

Hope this helps a bit, and if you receive any info from Insight saying otherwise please post your update.


I guess you could read that as "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with(that have) an HD Tuner" which is the way I read it, or "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs, with an HD Tuner" which is the way we're betting Insight meant it.

"Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with an HD Tuner"

I think this means you will get all of the new HD channels for no extra charge via your STB with HD tuner; not your TV equipped with a QAM tuner that you do not have an STB hooked up to, as the new HD channels will not be carried in the clear. Just like now, you will only be charged extra for the HD Pak, and if you subscribe to a premium channel like HBO or Showtime, you get that in HD as well.

This is how I understand it; I don't work for Insight and am not speaking for them. Obviously I too would like to see all of the HD channels carried in the clear over a basic connection and be able to watch them on my sets without an STB, but Insight is in the business to make money and that would not make much sense to do that.

Hope this helps a bit, and if you receive any info from Insight saying otherwise please post your update.

I guess you could read that as "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs with(that have) an HD Tuner" which is the way I read it, or "Plus, you can get most HD channels FREE on all TVs, with an HD Tuner" which is the way we're betting Insight meant it.

I emailed Michael Willner after I posted on here, asking for him to clarify this issue. As soon as I receive a reply I will post it here.
Ghpr13:)

On Dish Network you can now get your local HD channels (3,11 and 32). The feed is on satellite at 77. Hopefully 41 and 15 will follow soon.

Yeah but I was told you have to have 2 satellites installed

Your current one and then another one.

If you have all MPEG4 receivers and the new smart cards you can try to talk them into installing the one dish solution for Eastern Arc.

Does anyone know when Insights new HD channels will be available?

anyone have problems getting the big ten network on insight 527....last two indiana games were not shown....I'm guessing they are broadcasting the games in high definition on a non-HD channel.

Does anyone know when Insights new HD channels will be available?

Called Insight today and a CSR informed me that half of the new HD channels will come online Dec. 3 followed by the rest on Dec. 13, for those interested.

Soon!

Does anyone know when Insights new HD channels will be available?

Should start on December third, and finish by years end.
Ghpr13:)

The new HD channels are available on Insight.

Was hoping ABCFamily HD would be part of the intial lineup, but I'm happy with the first offereing so far.

The only station left that I would really like to see is Spike TV. After that I will be pretty happy. So far with this update I now have a reason to watch Starz again, and I can finally watch USA/Sci Fi in HD.

yep was really hoping spike would make the lineup in hd, but ill take more HD any day.

really want HowardTV OnDemand too.

The only station left that I would really like to see is Spike TV. After that I will be pretty happy. So far with this update I now have a reason to watch Starz again, and I can finally watch USA/Sci Fi in HD.

Insight has an HD survey link currently on their homepage. Spike TV is a suggested channel to add in the future. You may want to fill it out and recommend it if you haven't already.

http://www.insight-com.com/hdtvpoll

I have a question about a problem I'm having with sound on my Samsung 550. My 550 is connected to my Moto HD/DVR Cable box via HDMI. I seem to get a lot of sound drops out when watching TV. Would this be just a cable signal problem or could it be a HDMI "handshaking" problem? What advise would you have for me in trying to stop this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Ghpr13:)

I have a question about a problem I'm having with sound on my Samsung 550. My 550 is connected to my Moto HD/DVR Cable box via HDMI. I seem to get a lot of sound drops out when watching TV. Would this be just a cable signal problem or could it be a HDMI "handshaking" problem? What advise would you have for me in trying to stop this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Ghpr13:)

Most likely it's a problem with the cable box. Motorola boxes are notorious for their sound dropouts, especially with Samsung TV's. Seems to be some compatibility issues. I have a 650 and Motorola box and got audio drops constantly, but Samsung issued a firmware and I haven't had any since. To make sure it's the cable box, when you get audio drops, switch to an HDMI DVD, video game, or bluray source. If you don't get any drops you'll know the cause is the cable box and not the hdmi cable. I'm sure it's the box though as it's a fairly common, widespread problem with Moto boxes connected through hdmi cables. Check to see that you have the latest firmware for your TV as that might fix the problem. If not, you could try component cables, but I've also heard people still get dropouts with those sometimes too.

Most likely it's a problem with the cable box. Motorola boxes are notorious for their sound dropouts, especially with Samsung TV's. Seems to be some compatibility issues. I have a 650 and Motorola box and got audio drops constantly, but Samsung issued a firmware and I haven't had any since. To make sure it's the cable box, when you get audio drops, switch to an HDMI DVD, video game, or bluray source. If you don't get any drops you'll know the cause is the cable box and not the hdmi cable. I'm sure it's the box though as it's a fairly common, widespread problem with Moto boxes connected through hdmi cables. Check to see that you have the latest firmware for your TV as that might fix the problem. If not, you could try component cables, but I've also heard people still get dropouts with those sometimes too.

I have a question about a problem I'm having with sound on my Samsung 550. My 550 is connected to my Moto HD/DVR Cable box via HDMI. I seem to get a lot of sound drops out when watching TV. Would this be just a cable signal problem or could it be a HDMI "handshaking" problem? What advise would you have for me in trying to stop this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Ghpr13:)


I had a Motorola box switched out today because the audio was dropping out. I was passing the audio through fiber optic to my receiver. The rca cables connected to my TV worked fine though. Everything works now. I agree, probably the box. Talking to the tech., it seems there's a large number of bad boxes in use. The box with the audio problems was actually installed yesterday to replace a box with video issues.

Insight has an HD survey link currently on their homepage. Spike TV is a suggested channel to add in the future. You may want to fill it out and recommend it if you haven't already.

http://www.insight-com.com/hdtvpoll

Thanks for the information.

where is speed HD? come on insight!

Anyone know if the new HD channels will be available over clearQAM on Insight? I heard from a friend that they would be, but I have yet to see anything other than the locals.

Anyone know if the new HD channels will be available over clearQAM on Insight? I heard from a friend that they would be, but I have yet to see anything other than the locals.Your friend was misinformed. They are not available in clear QAM, only the locals are. Some people assumed this from the wording on the Insight flyer that was sent out but the fine print showed that you need the HD box. I was hoping myself but no such luck. IMO, the only real benefit of cable over satellite was that you didn't need a box on every TV. Remove this benefit and cable really doesn't have much going for it and if you run an HTPC, satellite is looking better and better.

Your friend was misinformed. They are not available in clear QAM, only the locals are. Some people assumed this from the wording on the Insight flyer that was sent out but the fine print showed that you need the HD box. I was hoping myself but no such luck. IMO, the only real benefit of cable over satellite was that you didn't need a box on every TV. Remove this benefit and cable really doesn't have much going for it and if you run an HTPC, satellite is looking better and better.

I totally agree with you. It's very frustrating to buy a new HDTV with a QAM turner, then find out you can't use it cause your cable company wants to push their DVR on you with an added charge.

Ghpr13:)

I guess by adding the new HD channels, Insight is re-compressing some channels and lowering the bit rate. I just noticed that HD Net movies which was running the source bit rate of 18.5 mbps is now running 13-14 Mbps. I have not checked other channels yet, but many of the channels only offer around 13-14 mpbs from the source, like HBO-HD and Cinemax-HD.

Mike T

I guess by adding the new HD channels, Insight is re-compressing some channels and lowering the bit rate. I just noticed that HD Net movies which was running the source bit rate of 18.5 mbps is now running 13-14 Mbps. I have not checked other channels yet, but many of the channels only offer around 13-14 mpbs from the source, like HBO-HD and Cinemax-HD.

Mike TI noticed that as well. They are squeezing 3 digital HD channels instead of 2 into a physical channel.

Looks like they added Disney HD and ABCFamily HD.

I guess by adding the new HD channels, Insight is re-compressing some channels and lowering the bit rate. I just noticed that HD Net movies which was running the source bit rate of 18.5 mbps is now running 13-14 Mbps. I have not checked other channels yet, but many of the channels only offer around 13-14 mpbs from the source, like HBO-HD and Cinemax-HD.

Mike T

How are you finding the bit rate of the channels? Thanks.

How are you finding the bit rate of the channels? Thanks.

I use the diagnostics screen on the 6416 tuner to find the channel frequency of program channel I am watching. Then I set my On Air Solutions QAM USB tuner to that frequency and start TSReader software and it will show all the data streams on that frequency and their bit rate, since the channels are mostly encrypted, I cannot get any video, just info. I live near E-Town and have Comcast, but was visiting a friend in Louisville and just looked at what Insight was doing on their HD channels. Comcast also has some of their HD channels with 3 per RF channel which can lower the bit rate instead of the 2 per channel that does not lower the bit rate.

Channels like HBO and CineMax and Starz don't have a bit rate higher than 13-14 mbps from the source, so putting 3 per channel does not cause much reduction in picture quality, but HDNet runs the full 18.5 mbps on both of their services so packing 3 into a channel does lower the bit rate and quality during fast motion scenes.

Mike T

bit rate junky

How are you finding the bit rate of the channels? Thanks.I use the same method as mtallent, just a different tuner (the HDHomeRun).

Is anyone else having trouble with 932 (Animal Planet HD)? I'm not getting sound on either of my DVR boxes. Tried unplugging, tried rehitting the boxes, still no sound. If I go into the audio setup on the box and switch from the default language to English or vice versa, I get audio but the video freezes.

Is anyone else having trouble with 932 (Animal Planet HD)? I'm not getting sound on either of my DVR boxes. Tried unplugging, tried rehitting the boxes, still no sound. If I go into the audio setup on the box and switch from the default language to English or vice versa, I get audio but the video freezes.

Same here, no sound. I didn't do any trouble shooting, just changed the channel and confirmed sound on the neighboring channels. Everything seems fine elsewhere, but no sound on 932.

Same here, no sound. I didn't do any trouble shooting, just changed the channel and confirmed sound on the neighboring channels. Everything seems fine elsewhere, but no sound on 932.
Thanks for confirming. I figured out that I can record a program, start playing the recording, go to the Audio Setup in the setup menu, switch audio language from "Default" to "English" then back and I then have audio.

CSR insists it's something I'm doing wrong because they have audio in the office. :rolleyes: I didn't waste my time telling her that I program audio/video applications and could probably prove that it's due to an error where they are recompressing the stream.

I am SO close to ordering Dish.

@ vladd or mtallent

Just out of curiosity, do either of you know what the difference in bit rates are for the local HD channels with Insight as compared to the over the air broadcasts? Thanks.

@ vladd or mtallent

Just out of curiosity, do either of you know what the difference in bit rates are for the local HD channels with Insight as compared to the over the air broadcasts? Thanks.They used to just be passthroughs (equivalent to OTA). With the recent changes, I'm not so sure but haven't tested definitively. As soon as I can reallocate one of my tuners to OTA, I can give you exact figures. Tomorrow night at the latest (unless mtallent can answer).

Thanks for confirming. I figured out that I can record a program, start playing the recording, go to the Audio Setup in the setup menu, switch audio language from "Default" to "English" then back and I then have audio.

CSR insists it's something I'm doing wrong because they have audio in the office. :rolleyes: I didn't waste my time telling her that I program audio/video applications and could probably prove that it's due to an error where they are recompressing the stream.

I am SO close to ordering Dish.

My box behaves the same way. In fact if I exit the playback and restart there is no sound again and if I repeat the process I see that English is still selected. I press enter on English anyway and the sound is back.

Looks like it's time to get rid of my digital cable.

Channel|OTA|Insight
WAVE 3|12.0|12.0
WHAS 11|18.0|16.2
WLKY 32|18.0|14.7
WDRB 41|15.5|10.0
WMYO 58|18.5|16.5

As you can see, the only channel that they are not recompressing is WAVE 3 who already compresses their signal.

Note that these are the video bitrates only and they are variable. I did not include the audio and reported an average rate.

The problem is that if Dish or Direc had the Louisville channels they would be re-encoded into mpeg4 and have bit rates of around 5-6 mbps and Dish is 1440 X 1080 for 1080i.

I just checked and Comcast here in E-Town is still running only 2 per channel for the Locals, so they are not being re-compressed yet and WHAS was 18.5 mbps.

Mike T

Direct TV does have locals in HD MPEG 4 and they look very good. I get them both OTA and by Direct and they compare very well.

I'd use an antenna for the locals (wouldn't want my two HDHomeRuns to go to waste). Living in St. Matthews makes that easier. I am starting to like the idea of a RD5000 modified STB for Dish more and more for all the other channels though. That way I can record everything to my HTPC.

I am currently an Insight subscriber. I have had issues with pixelation on my HD and SD TVs for a while on the upper channels. I do have a dedicated line for the HD.

The last tech to come out to our house stated that he could not do much to help my reception since it appeared that the cable lines for our non-HD tv were "split" too many times within the house wiring. I am unable to easily track the lines within the house to determine where I might have splitters hidden in a wall or ceiling. The tech did state that he could give me "OK" reception on all cable outlets (including the dedicated outlet) or "great" reception on the dedicated outlet with no guarantees on the other outlets. It seems that my only option with Insight is to pay someone to run new lines to each room that has a cable outlet. Any other ideas?

I would also like to get feedback on how the other signal providers (Directv and Dish) compare to Insight both from a service and a cost perspective. It seems that if I went with one of the other providers, I would likely get new wiring run to support their dish antennas. Then I would likely have decent signals to each tv. Is that a fair assumption?

Any other alternatives besides OTA?

Thanks.

I am currently an Insight subscriber. I have had issues with pixelation on my HD and SD TVs for a while on the upper channels. I do have a dedicated line for the HD.

The last tech to come out to our house stated that he could not do much to help my reception since it appeared that the cable lines for our non-HD tv were "split" too many times within the house wiring. I am unable to easily track the lines within the house to determine where I might have splitters hidden in a wall or ceiling. The tech did state that he could give me "OK" reception on all cable outlets (including the dedicated outlet) or "great" reception on the dedicated outlet with no guarantees on the other outlets. It seems that my only option with Insight is to pay someone to run new lines to each room that has a cable outlet. Any other ideas?

I would also like to get feedback on how the other signal providers (Directv and Dish) compare to Insight both from a service and a cost perspective. It seems that if I went with one of the other providers, I would likely get new wiring run to support their dish antennas. Then I would likely have decent signals to each tv. Is that a fair assumption?

Any other alternatives besides OTA?

Thanks.

I recently had Directv and I had a lot of ups and downs. I found picture quality to be great and they have lots of hd channels. Their DVR software is much better then Insight's. (Keyword searches and automatic rewind to the beginning of a program in you overshoot it fast forwarding through the commercials) I think it is safe to say that you will get new lines ran but I think there may be additional costs associated with fishing lines through walls. They like to send lines directly into rooms from the outside.

That being said, I found their customer service to be awful. I was plagued with problems from the beginning. It may have just been my experience, but it was consistent throughout. I thought they were very misleading and sometimes just outright dishonest. It was very bad. I ended up canceling when I lost my line of sight to the satellites from a move.

Now that insight has more HD, I think they are very competitive and I think prices are comparable. I've always had good experience with Insight's customer service and problems are usually repaired quickly. It's also nice not being responsible for the equipment.

I'm sure others have had different experiences, but right now I'm happy with Insight and will probably never go back to Directv again.

I believe with Dish you can have 4 receivers which is included when starting out for SD. This is not the case with HD.

Has anyone bought an HD cable box online and used it with Insight? I just bought my first HDTV and hate the idea of renting a box from them. I already have Insight's normal service.

Also, I can get KET 15.1 through my cable line, but not 15.2. Is 15.2-4 only available with an antennae? Thanks in advance.

Has anyone bought an HD cable box online and used it with Insight? I just bought my first HDTV and hate the idea of renting a box from them. I already have Insight's normal service.You may have trouble finding one. They will only authorize boxes from "approved retailers" but they will not tell you who they consider to be an "approved retailer". They do specifically state that EBay is not one of them though.

Also, I can get KET 15.1 through my cable line, but not 15.2. Is 15.2-4 only available with an antennae? Thanks in advance.I can still get .2-.4 with my HDHomeRun tuners but not on my TV. This happened recently during one of their "upgrades". They are defining the CVCT in the stream but those channels are not defined in the CVCT so some TVs will not "see" them. Attempting to explain this to a CSR should be fun.

Has anyone bought an HD cable box online and used it with Insight? I just bought my first HDTV and hate the idea of renting a box from them. I already have Insight's normal service.

Also, I can get KET 15.1 through my cable line, but not 15.2. Is 15.2-4 only available with an antennae? Thanks in advance.

15.3 is the HD channel on KET. I get all my channels off OTA with an antenna. Right now we are having an issue with Dish OTA receivers with 15.3. Issues in Lexington have also been reported on satelliteguys...

What happened to the audio on Wave 3-1 this morning about 5:30 Am I was watching it and then got static for about 1/2 a second and then no sound at all. It was still that way when I left for work about 6:40 Am. The audio was fine on 3-2.

You may have trouble finding one. They will only authorize boxes from "approved retailers" but they will not tell you who they consider to be an "approved retailer". They do specifically state that EBay is not one of them though.

I can still get .2-.4 with my HDHomeRun tuners but not on my TV. This happened recently during one of their "upgrades". They are defining the CVCT in the stream but those channels are not defined in the CVCT so some TVs will not "see" them. Attempting to explain this to a CSR should be fun.

Bummer, thanks for the answer. I guess with everything being digital now, there's no off the record cable guy hook-ups anymore either. :D

Sorta off-topic, but any recommendations for places to audition speakers besides Circuit City and Best Buy? I see Crawford on yellowpages.com, I think he set up my father's home theater years ago.

If you don't mind driving, there is a good store on the Northside of Indy called Ovation. They have good high end equiptment.

Ovation has some good stuff. Ranging from High-mid level to high end. There used to be a couple of them in Louisville but they closed down. I know there's a place near the intersection of Shelbyville and Hurstbourne but I can't remember the name. They used to be on Chenoweth. There's also Digital Lifestyles in Middletown.

Hi forum. :waves:

Apologies if this is inappropriate or covered elsewhere. Sticky in the main forum suggested I post here, and a couple of searches didn't turn anything up.

Cost cutting has lead me to seriously consider terminating my Dish service. I've visited antennaweb.org, which is recommending blue/pink antennas, which appear to be pricey enough that I don't want to blindly buy one. Wife will probably forbid a roof-mount, so realistically, this will be an attic mount (2 story house). It looks as though I have a locally clear LOS in the direction of the local towers -- there are no trees or anything on that end of the house. So, I'm wondering if anyone in the general area of Middletown has some experience they could share and/or gimme a model recommendation.

Thanks.

Ovation has some good stuff. Ranging from High-mid level to high end. There used to be a couple of them in Louisville but they closed down. I know there's a place near the intersection of Shelbyville and Hurstbourne but I can't remember the name. They used to be on Chenoweth. There's also Digital Lifestyles in Middletown.

This business was Wilder Electronics. Unfortunately, they have also closed.

Anyone have any audio/video problems during today's UK game? I had many audio drops & some pixelation during the game. Also, the left & center channels were lower than the right during the enire broadcast. I receive my locals via ota and was recording the game with the DTVPAL from Dish Network

Does anybody know who Ovation in Louisville used for extended service contracts? I bought a set from them in Nov 2004 and I believe I got a 5 year service contract. My Mitsu is dead but I can't find my info and Ovation in Indy says they are not related to the old Louisville location.

This business was Wilder Electronics. Unfortunately, they have also closed.

Sorry to hear that.

Does anybody know who Ovation in Louisville used for extended service contracts? I bought a set from them in Nov 2004 and I believe I got a 5 year service contract. My Mitsu is dead but I can't find my info and Ovation in Indy says they are not related to the old Louisville location.

That did not use to be the case. Indy was their corporate office.

That did not use to be the case. Indy was their corporate office.

Yeah I know but I contacted them and they say they have been bought and sold since then adn they are not affiliated with the old Louisville store and have none of their records. :mad:

that's pretty sad, and that is 1 reason that I have never purchased those packages. Ovation used to be the only "higher" end seller in Louisville. Now the only 1 is Magnolia (Best Buy) on shelbyville road

Does anyone with Insight's Moto DCH-6416 HD/DVR have trouble with sound drop outs?

Thanks,
Ghpr13:confused:

Does anyone with Insight's Moto DCH-6416 HD/DVR have trouble with sound drop outs?

Thanks,
Ghpr13:confused:Which channel? I was getting dropouts when going to commercials but I'm not anymore.

Which channel? I was getting dropouts when going to commercials but I'm not anymore.

Vladd,
It seems to happen on all channels at different times...can be HD or SD...and at different times of the day.

Ghpr13

Hopefully someone can give me some insight here...

I've got a Philips SDV7400K UHF/VHF antenna on my roof going through a Channel Master CM0747 pre-amp, feeding a Directv HR20-700.

The antenna is aimed at about 125 degrees. I get WLEX (NBC) and WTVQ (ABC) at 100% signal strength. I get WKLE (PBS) at 71%. I get 0% signal strength on WKYT (CBS) and WDKY (FOX) - which is not suprising since they are in VHF and lots of people have a hard time pulling them in. So, alas I get no CBS or FOX in HD. Well, one day I ran a scan on Louisville channels. I got 58% signal strength on WAVE and 48% on WDRB. 48% seems to be just enough to get a solid signal on my DVR.

My question is why am I not able to get ANY signal from WHAS or WLKY. According to TV Fool, I should be getting them in this order:
WLKY, WAVE, WHAS, WDRB
But I actually get them in this order:
WAVE, WDRB...

Anyone have any thoughts as to why this is happening the way it is? I would really like to be able to get WLKY ...

Here are my TV fool analysis results:
http://idisk.mac.com/hcouch//Public/Radar-Digital.png


Thanks for any and all insight...

You could try pointing the antenna towards the Louisville towers. You may still get a strong lexington signal for WLEX and WTVQ. That antenna is very directional.

Vladd,
It seems to happen on all channels at different times...can be HD or SD...and at different times of the day.

Ghpr13I haven't noticed but I'll keep an eye out for it.

I'm looking to switch from Insight finally. HD through them for $15/month, yikes, and our bill seems to keep going up anyway.

Currently I'm using the qam tuner on our tv to get local HD, plus have the 10mbps internet and basic phone through them, $125/month about. I also have a Mythtv box for dvr using SD cable. I don't have a HD card for it yet.

Any recommendations for switching to Dish or Directtv? Do either of their HD boxes provide an output I could snag with the Mythtv pc in HD?

I posted this in another forum, I'm a newbie, and didn't notice this whole thread, which was probably a better one for it: So, we have had Insight for a few weeks now. We were really loving that we were actually picking up quite a few unecrypted channels, all ranging 81-1 through 84-11. It was fantastic. We watched Mirrors a couple of days before it came out for rental. -They only paused it once or twice! : ) It was like Christmas, I'd come home from work, and we would start scanning to see what would come in.

Now, the channels have disappeared. I'm wondering if it is just us or if Insight has changed something. Obviously I can't just call them up and say, hey, we've been watching other people's on demand tv, what happened to it?

I'm looking to switch from Insight finally. HD through them for $15/month, yikes, and our bill seems to keep going up anyway.

Currently I'm using the qam tuner on our tv to get local HD, plus have the 10mbps internet and basic phone through them, $125/month about. I also have a Mythtv box for dvr using SD cable. I don't have a HD card for it yet.

Any recommendations for switching to Dish or Directtv? Do either of their HD boxes provide an output I could snag with the Mythtv pc in HD?

I switched from Insight to Dish about a year ago and really like it. The reason I went with Dish was their DVR (VIP722). I really liked that I could connect 2 TV's to it and both would be able to access the DVR. I can start watching a show on one TV, stop it, and pick it up on the other TV. I've always wanted the TV in with my exercise equipment to be able to watch things I've recorded but I didn't want another DVR to have to program. This solves the problem. I also liked that I could connect external hard drives to it and move shows off of the main DVR. I've wanted to be able to expand my Insight DVR for forever.

When I switched, they did not have the Louisville locals in HD but now they do (execpt for WDRB). I'm fine with that since I als have an antenna in my attic to pick up OTA in HD. That feeds right into the DVR and the guide even sees it. I can record from the OTA as well so I can record 3 shows at the same time.

One thing you should know, the 2nd TV you hook up is not getting the signals in HD.

I'm not familiar with Mythtv but you might be able to find something here:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/

I'm looking to switch from Insight finally. HD through them for $15/month, yikes, and our bill seems to keep going up anyway.

Currently I'm using the qam tuner on our tv to get local HD, plus have the 10mbps internet and basic phone through them, $125/month about. I also have a Mythtv box for dvr using SD cable. I don't have a HD card for it yet.

Any recommendations for switching to Dish or Directtv? Do either of their HD boxes provide an output I could snag with the Mythtv pc in HD?

I have dish and use 2 HD-PVRs to encode the HD component output of 2 Dish network boxes to h264. There is also the R5000 mod that can capture the original digital stream for all channels on dish network boxes. Don't know if either are supported in Myth since I use SageTV.

Good info, Dish is the way I had been leaning for no apparent reason, but I guess it was just ESP? j/k

After the ice storm recovery, I think we'll be switching. Thanks for the input.

Using Myth isn't a deal breaker, we're just used to it and being able to set recordings from any computer in the house is really nice, but it might be nice to ditch that pc completely too and just run the Dish dvr.

Good info, Dish is the way I had been leaning for no apparent reason, but I guess it was just ESP? j/k

After the ice storm recovery, I think we'll be switching. Thanks for the input.

Using Myth isn't a deal breaker, we're just used to it and being able to set recordings from any computer in the house is really nice, but it might be nice to ditch that pc completely too and just run the Dish dvr.

Directv definitely offers the online scheduler, if that helps even a tiny bit. Don't know if Dish does, but I have personally set recordings via the directv website, which can come in handy if I remember something when I'm not home.

I'm in Louisville, KY and want to switch to Dish from Insight...I rent a townhouse that won't allow dishes attached to any part of the building...Direct came out and said they couldn't set me up because of some large trees directly behind my townhouse...they couldn't get a good line of sight to their HD satellite. I been told that Dish's satellite is located in a different direction and they should be able to set me up...I just want HD only...any feedback on this? How is Dish's Quality & how are they as a company?...I really am fed up with Insight.

Thanks to any who reply,
Ghpr13:)

I have Dish and am very satisfied with them. They offer a HD only package. New customers are pointed at what is called "Eastern Arc" which has a east view to the satellites. If you have a clear east view you should be good to go.

Former Insight customer..

I have Dish and am very satisfied with them. They offer a HD only package. New customers are pointed at what is called "Eastern Arc" which has a east view to the satellites. If you have a clear east view you should be good to go.

Former Insight customer..East? What's the azimuth on your dish? The only satellites for Dish Network of which I am aware would require that the dish be pointed at about 160 (South - Southeast) or 226 (West - Southwest).

East? What's the azimuth on your dish? The only satellites for Dish Network of which I am aware would require that the dish be pointed at about 160 (South - Southeast) or 226 (West - Southwest).

The Eastern arc sats are at 61.5, 72.5, and 77.

I have Dish and am very satisfied with them. They offer a HD only package. New customers are pointed at what is called "Eastern Arc" which has a east view to the satellites. If you have a clear east view you should be good to go.

Former Insight customer..

gdarwin,
Thanks for your reply. I really want to switch. I'm getting ready to call them this week to see what kind of deal I can work out. The only stumbling block might be the fact that I don't have a credit card. I was disable in 2002 and had to file bankruptcy due to the medicle bills. I do have a debit card, but I don't know if they will accept that for security on the equipment.
How is their customer service?
Thanks again,
Ghpr13:)

Directv definitely offers the online scheduler, if that helps even a tiny bit. Don't know if Dish does, but I have personally set recordings via the directv website, which can come in handy if I remember something when I'm not home.

I believe Dish offers this feature if your dvr is connected to the internet. I know that is one of their selling points of the new 922 sling box that I believe is coming out in the spring.

Sling sheduling is already on my 722 and 622 boxes... It rocks!

The Eastern arc sats are at 61.5, 72.5, and 77.Thanks. Those are the ones that require pointing the dish at about degrees. That's good news for me since I have obstructions on the other satellites. It's looking more and more that I may move to Dish.

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I guess I'm the only one that still misses The Tube since it went out of business. WAVE still has that weather channel they have on a sub channel. Why all the complaints about sub channels? WAVE look clear to me on OTA with my 2005 Media Center PC.

Well, there has been new changes with WAVE 3!
WAVE 3 has a 3.2 movie channel called "This" and it seem to be pretty good as I have recently watched a Clint Eastwood and a Charles Bronson movie on that channel. I understand Insight digital package does not currently offer that channel. So you can only view this channel on over the air HDTV.
WAVE 3 has a 3.3 Weather Channel too.

Have basic cable plus and purchased a Toshiba lcd with a QAM tuner last summer and could watch all the local digital channels (WAVE 3.1, WHAS 11.1, WLKY 32.1, WKRB 41.1, etc.) About a month ago could not tune in 11.1 or 32.1, but just found WHAS at 71.2 Anybody know where 32WLKY has moved to and are there going to be more changes?

It's always been at 71.2 but the CVCT info was set to remap it to 11.1. I don't know why Insight stops sending this info from time to time but they do. It could be intentional or it could be just a screwup.

Well, there has been new changes with WAVE 3!
WAVE 3 has a 3.2 movie channel called "This" and it seem to be pretty good as I have recently watched a Clint Eastwood and a Charles Bronson movie on that channel. I understand Insight digital package does not currently offer that channel. So you can only view this channel on over the air HDTV.
WAVE 3 has a 3.3 Weather Channel too.Personally, I would prefer they reallocated the bandwidth to 3.1 an increased the quality of the stream. It may not show up on smaller monitors but there is a very noticable quality difference between it and 11.1 on my 47" 1080p LCD. There is very noticable blocking on fast moving scenes or scenes with lots of contrast changes like explosions.

Switched over to Fox 41 tonight (on Insight cable) to watch Bones (wasn't on, of course), and caught the tail end of an "Everybody Loves Raymond" syndication episode. It was in HD!

Did 41 make the full switch to digital already for Insight customers, or did OTA people see the same thing?

Well, there has been new changes with WAVE 3!
WAVE 3 has a 3.2 movie channel called "This" and it seem to be pretty good as I have recently watched a Clint Eastwood and a Charles Bronson movie on that channel. I understand Insight digital package does not currently offer that channel. So you can only view this channel on over the air HDTV.
WAVE 3 has a 3.3 Weather Channel too.

"This" is now on 72.20 on Insight. I haven't rescanned with my TV to see if it picks it up yet but my HDHomeRun does.

Personally, I would prefer they reallocated the bandwidth to 3.1 an increased the quality of the stream. It may not show up on smaller monitors but there is a very noticable quality difference between it and 11.1 on my 47" 1080p LCD. There is very noticable blocking on fast moving scenes or scenes with lots of contrast changes like explosions.

The quality difference does not show up on my little 17 inch screen.
So, I guess there is an advantage in a smaller viewing screen, other than a lower price, after all!

The quality difference does not show up on my little 17 inch screen.
So, I guess there is an advantage in a smaller viewing screen, other than a lower price, after all!Yup. Situations like this, smaller screens definitely have an edge over larger ones. If it get's too bad during a show, I finish watching it upstairs on the 22"

Changing the subject a bit, but I recently began watching KET WKZT 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3 in Elizabethtown again, after not having them in my guide and not watching them for several months.

The last time I watched them, the programming that was supposed to be HD was, in fact, HD. Now all I'm seeing is SD on all three. It's the same from the TV's tuner and the D* tuner.

Anybody know why this is?

Changing the subject a bit, but I recently began watching KET WKZT 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3 in Elizabethtown again, after not having them in my guide and not watching them for several months.

The last time I watched them, the programming that was supposed to be HD was, in fact, HD. Now all I'm seeing is SD on all three. It's the same from the TV's tuner and the D* tuner.

Anybody know why this is?

23-3 right now 9:45PM sunday is playing HDTV in 720P it is usually only in the evenings and is always 720P.

Mike T

Changing the subject a bit, but I recently began watching KET WKZT 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3 in Elizabethtown again, after not having them in my guide and not watching them for several months.

The last time I watched them, the programming that was supposed to be HD was, in fact, HD. Now all I'm seeing is SD on all three. It's the same from the TV's tuner and the D* tuner.

Anybody know why this is?

I haven't checked in a few days, but, I wouldn't be surprised to see some lingering effects from all the ice and power outages.

Thanks for the replies. I'll keep checking. Although it's not uncommon for the D* guide to list things as HD that turn out not to be, I hadn't seen anything HD or 16:9 at all on those channels since I began watching again a few days ago.

KET1 and KET2 are still SD and have always been SD. KETKY is SD except from 20:00 to 00:00 each day. KETED is SD when its on from 00:00 to 20:00.

William

Why the constant audio drop outs on 11-1? Ball games, movies, doesn't matter. Sound drops for a second & then comes back. My locals come OTA.

KET1 and KET2 are still SD and have always been SD. KETKY is SD except from 20:00 to 00:00 each day. KETED is SD when its on from 00:00 to 20:00.

William

I'm not sure what KETKY is, but I have viewed HD programming on 23-1 WKZT in Elizabethtown, which I assumed was the same thing as KET1. It was, as you say, between 8pm and midnight. I also think I have seen HD on 23-2, but again, it has been a few months, so perhaps I haven't. I don't recall seeing anything HD on 23-3, 23-4, or the others, though.

Regardless, the D* guide is still guide listing various shows as HD that are actually 4:3 SD. D* lists things the way the providers send them, so I'm not holding them accountable, mind you.

I'm not sure what KETKY is, but I have viewed HD programming on 23-1 WKZT in Elizabethtown, which I assumed was the same thing as KET1. It was, as you say, between 8pm and midnight. I also think I have seen HD on 23-2, but again, it has been a few months, so perhaps I haven't. I don't recall seeing anything HD on 23-3, 23-4, or the others, though.

Regardless, the D* guide is still guide listing various shows as HD that are actually 4:3 SD. D* lists things the way the providers send them, so I'm not holding them accountable, mind you.

KET-1 is 23-1. KET2 is on 23-2, KETKYHD is 23-3, and KETED is on 23-4.

The only service that runs HD programming is 23-3 and then only between 20:00 and 00:00

We generate the listings that goto Tribune and TVGuide. DirectTV gets its listings from one of them. ( I don't remember which one off the top of my head). You may have seen a show that said it was available in HD on KET1 but it would have been downconverted to SD for air.

Okay, it looks like my memory failed me and I had it all wrong. LOL I could've sworn that I watched HD on 23-1 last summer, but obviously it had to have been 23-3. Oh, well, I'm glad I've got that straight now. Thanks for the input!

We generate the listings that goto Tribune and TVGuide. DirectTV gets its listings from one of them. ( I don't remember which one off the top of my head).

Tribune.

WBKI has already gone digital on channel 34 but does anyone know when they will have their digital signal on channel 28 in Louisville?

Thanks...

Anyone seeing WJYL-LD on 16-1?

- Trip

WBKI has already gone digital on channel 34 but does anyone know when they will have their digital signal on channel 28 in Louisville?

Their application for a "low" power digital companion transmitter on Ch34 has been approved. I suspect that even though they've shut down the analog transmitter on Ch34, they will have to wait until after June 12 (at the earliest) before they would be allowed to start operations on "WBKI-LD."

But don't take my word for it. The best way to find out is to call the station and ask. ;) :)

New to the forum. Live in bullitt co. Presently have a 60' 13 yr old box mitsubishi tv. looking to buy new tv. need something big with great pq.have been looking at the 73' mits. still cant make up my mind. any thoughts? P.S. the cable pq here in bullitt sucks. hoping hd would make a difference.

Their application for a "low" power digital companion transmitter on Ch34 has been approved. I suspect that even though they've shut down the analog transmitter on Ch34, they will have to wait until after June 12 (at the earliest) before they would be allowed to start operations on "WBKI-LD."

But don't take my word for it. The best way to find out is to call the station and ask. ;) :)

Thanks...

I would recommed the Sony LCD 52" that has the 120HZ. Another is the Samsung 52". If the large screen is the most important the Mits is a strong pick.

Anyone near Etown using an antennea and receiving Lexington digitals? if so, what direction are you pointing and and antennea are you using? I receive Louisville channels like a champ and I am closer to Glendale than Etown. Thanks in advance.

Anyone seeing WJYL-LD on 16-1?

- Trip

Yup, it's coming in here in Louisville. 16-1, 16-2, 16-3.

Also to note... is WLKY finally going to go local new in HD? I did notice the sidebars yesterday that said WLKY-HD.

I notice that WLKY is putting side bars on their local broadcasts like news, Wheel of Fortune, Young and the Restless, etc. The side bars have slowly fading in and out text "WLKY HD". Is this a sign that WLKY will be showing these shows in HD soon? Thanks.

Instead of paying Insight for the Motorola DVR box, or buying a TiVo box and paying them a monthly fee, I'm eager to build my own computer that can do this, preferably running Windows Media Center. An article from LifeHacker titled "Six Best DVR Applications" inspired me to look into it (won't let me post a link since this is my first post here).

I don't care about the movie channels or OnDemand. basically I want to record 2 HD channels at once.. Mainly things that come on the local networks, Discovery, A&E, and TLC.

What makes my head spin is do I need a cableCARD tuner to get these channels? Also, I'm reading a lot about the fact that you have to have a pre-built PC running MCE (media center edition) in order for the proper cableCARD tuner hardware to work. But maybe for the channels I'm wanting, you don't need a cableCARD?

Any help would be awesome. I'm guessing it just isn't possible, but I thought I might as well see if any of you have successfully made this work, and how.

I don't care about the movie channels or OnDemand. basically I want to record 2 HD channels at once.. Mainly things that come on the local networks, Discovery, A&E, and TLC.

I use GB-PVR to do this now. You can get the local HD stations with any QAM tuner (Silicondust HDHomeRun, Hauppauge HVR-2250/HVR-1600/HVR-1800, etc). In order to record Discovery, A&E and TLC in HD, you will need a cable card tuner or a cable box + Hauppauge HD-PVR.

You do need to buy a prebuilt PC to get the cable card tuners.

vladd, thanks. you just made my day. that seriously helps a ton. I'm guessing you went the Hauppauge route?

Keeping just the cable box is still $8/mo. over 3 years, that's $288.. I'm thinking that's a nice chunk out of the cost of a pre-built PC right there.

But to record 2 stations at once (premium HD stations), would you need 2 cableCARD tuners or will just 1 work? If so, that might put a damper on the PC only option since cableCARD tuners are so pricey.

vladd, thanks. you just made my day. that seriously helps a ton. I'm guessing you went the Hauppauge route? I have 2 HDHomeruns with 2 digital tuners each, a Vistaview Saber with 1 analog and 1 digital, a Hauppauge HVR-2250 with 2 analog/digital hybrids, and the Hauppauge HD-PVR. My HD-PVR is not currently connected though and I am about to turn in my Insight DVR since I rarely record anything but the locals. I do record one or two shows on TNT but it's not worth the extra money, so I dropped back to analog for those.

I'm looking into getting Dish TurboHD with an R5000-HD mod for the other HD channels but I'm fighting Dish on a couple of points in their policy (like why they need my SSN if I am purchasing the equiptment outright).

Keeping just the cable box is still $8/mo. over 3 years, that's $288.. I'm thinking that's a nice chunk out of the cost of a pre-built PC right there. Actually, you would need the DVR box to record HD. That's $15/mo.

But to record 2 stations at once (premium HD stations), would you need 2 cableCARD tuners or will just 1 work? If so, that might put a damper on the PC only option since cableCARD tuners are so pricey.Yes, you would need two. Alternatively, you could get a single cablecard, add something like the Hauppauge HVR-2250 and then you could record two HD locals and one non local HD (Discovery, TNT, etc.)

Note that you need to use Vista Media Center when going the cable card route. No other PVR software will work.

New to the forum. Live in bullitt co. Presently have a 60' 13 yr old box mitsubishi tv. looking to buy new tv. need something big with great pq.have been looking at the 73' mits. still cant make up my mind. any thoughts? P.S. the cable pq here in bullitt sucks. hoping hd would make a difference.

Man, if you have a 60-foot TV, I don't know why you'd want anything any bigger!

:D

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Welcome to the forum!

typing was never my strong point. Any ideas for a nice big tv?

typing was never my strong point. Any ideas for a nice big tv?

Get a 1080P HDTV, much sharper than 720P.

I have a Samsung 61 INCH DLP with LED light source. It has a great picture. A Very important point is the screen size and viewing distance. Most people get to small screen size and will not see 1080P detail. For full 1080 detail if you have 20-20 vision the viewing distance should be no more than 2.5 times the picture height. For my 61 INCH screen I set about 8-9 feet away and Blu-Ray looks outstanding.

I think that Plasma has the overall best picture quality followed by DLP and then LCD.

Mike T Video designer retired

Thanks Mike. Been looking at the Mits 73" DLP Diamond. Talked to a sales manager who said if i can get a great deal, pull the trigger. If not wait a year or two and get a 65" plasma. Im just tired of having a poor non Hd picture thru our cable system.

Does anyone know why WBKI-DT (Ch19) is stuck in SD? Ice storm damage? STL / Tower work?

Does anyone know why WBKI-DT (Ch19) is stuck in SD? Ice storm damage? STL / Tower work?
Just came to ask the same question. I was disappointed to find that Reaper was SD.

Does anyone know if this is it from Insight as far as getting more HD channels? Is what we got with the 4.0 roll out the end of additional HD channels for another two years or so?
Ghpr13:)

Insight had a survey online right after they added the latest channels so I would assume we should see another batch of channels added this year.

Insight had a survey online right after they added the latest channels so I would assume we should see another batch of channels added this year.

Thanks!
Ghpr13

Anyone near Etown using an antennea and receiving Lexington digitals? if so, what direction are you pointing and and antennea are you using? I receive Louisville channels like a champ and I am closer to Glendale than Etown. Thanks in advance.

Any help??? Please

I have been thinking about trying it. I don't have a rotator on my antenna yet, but I've got one to install. I am located west of E-Town. Sure would be nice to get NBC with a decent picture quality, do you know how Lexington NBC is for quality? I have also thought about trying Bowling Green.

Mike T

Lexington NBC and CBS are bug central. Looks nice on the rare occasion they aren't covering the screen with all sorts of random crap, mostly weather. And they don't take off their bugs for primetime, they just squish the network feed to be above their 1/6th of the screen bottom bug or scroll.

WooHoo! It looks like WBKI fixed their CW HD feed.

Sure would be nice to get NBC with a decent picture quality, do you know how Lexington NBC is for quality?

Generally better than WAVE. Bug issues aside, WLEX gives 18-1 the full bandwidth ... so far ...

... And at least they don't fall back to SD during weather/amber alert incidents any more.

WLKY-DT 32.2 and WHAS-DT 11.2 have been added but nothing is on their yet.

WLKY-DT 32.2 and WHAS-DT 11.2 have been added but nothing is on their yet.

I don't know about 11.2, but 32.2 usually pops up for March Madness and goes away once it's all over. {knock, knock}

I am watching the Big Ten game using my OTA antenna and my set says it is 720P and its looks soft on my 1080P DLP set. Anyone else noticed that WLKY seems to be broadcasting in 720P?

Mike T

Did anyone notice the very poor quality HDTV from WLKY? This is the poorest NCAA broadcast in many years. Their bit rate for the 720P channel is around 13 mbps and it should look a lot better at that rate. I sent them an e-mail suggesting they go back to 1080i as even the low bit rate WAVE looks much better than what WLKY is broadcasting.

Mike T

Did anyone notice the very poor quality HDTV from WLKY? This is the poorest NCAA broadcast in many years. Their bit rate for the 720P channel is around 13 mbps and it should look a lot better at that rate. I sent them an e-mail suggesting they go back to 1080i as even the low bit rate WAVE looks much better than what WLKY is broadcasting.

Mike T

The picture (WLKY through Directv) was often out of focus and macroblocking.

The same out of focus blurring happens on Insight as well. At this point I have come to expect the out of focus stuff for any sports broadcast on the channel.

Did anyone notice the very poor quality HDTV from WLKY? This is the poorest NCAA broadcast in many years. Their bit rate for the 720P channel is around 13 mbps and it should look a lot better at that rate. I sent them an e-mail suggesting they go back to 1080i as even the low bit rate WAVE looks much better than what WLKY is broadcasting.

Mike T

The picture (WLKY through Directv) was often out of focus and macroblocking.

The same out of focus blurring happens on Insight as well. At this point I have come to expect the out of focus stuff for any sports broadcast on the channel.

I have a question about WLKY. When WLKY broadcasts a program flanked by the left & right WLKY HD letters, is that program really in HD? I have Insight cable DCH-6416 DVR/HD STB attached to my Sammy 550 via HDMI. Is there a way I can tell what bit rate stations are broadcasting in?
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

The picture (WLKY through Directv) was often out of focus and macroblocking.

Since they've used 1080i up to now, I wouldn't be surprised if they were getting bit by the infamous Harris encoder "prefilter" issue that plagued ABC affiliates.

I think it might help to call and send e-mail to try to get them to switch back 1080i. This would also help for regular programming as they seem to be unable to change during non-NCAA days and keep the very poor 720P down conversion and the second SDTV program channel at 32.2. Does anyone know who is Chief Engineer, I seem to remember a Bill Lamb in the past.

Mike T

I think it might help to call and send e-mail to try to get them to switch back 1080i. This would also help for regular programming as they seem to be unable to change during non-NCAA days and keep the very poor 720P down conversion and the second SDTV program channel at 32.2. Does anyone know who is Chief Engineer, I seem to remember a Bill Lamb in the past.

Mike T

Bill Lamb is the general manager of WDRB.

Bill Lamb is the general manager of WDRB.

Uppppss, I knew I heard that name someplace. Second round does not look as blurry, but the down conversion artifacts are still very easy to see, especially on the graphics.

Mike T

I have a question about WLKY. When WLKY broadcasts a program flanked by the left & right WLKY HD letters, is that program really in HD? I have Insight cable DCH-6416 DVR/HD STB attached to my Sammy 550 via HDMI. Is there a way I can tell what bit rate stations are broadcasting in?
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

Anyone?
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

I have a question about WLKY. When WLKY broadcasts a program flanked by the left & right WLKY HD letters, is that program really in HD? I have Insight cable DCH-6416 DVR/HD STB attached to my Sammy 550 via HDMI. Is there a way I can tell what bit rate stations are broadcasting in?
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

The WLKY main digital channel (32-1) is always sending a HDTV signal, but when the screen is 4:3 with side bars, then the content is usually SDTV. WLKY has been sending 1080i at around 17 mbps but recently for NCAA they switched to 720P at around 13 mbps and added a second SDTV channel to carry another basketball game. I am really hoping that when NCAA is over (and UofL wins) that they will got back to 1080i at the higher bit rate as they had the best overall video quality in town on my 1080P HDTV.

To find out the bit rate I think you will need to get a QAM tuner for your computer, I have one and I can record the un-encrypted digital channels to my computer and I use a TSReader to give me info on the channel like bit rate and if it is 720P or 1080i format. If I connect an antenna to the tuner I can see if there are any more sub-channels being transmitted and what the bit rate is for the audio and video.

You can find out some of this using your 6416 box. With the box turned on push the power switch to turn it off and then quickly hit the OK-Select button, you should then get a screen with text. Go to d06 hit select and it will give you info on what frequency each tuner is set to, d10 will tell you the video format that each tuner is getting some others will give the 5C flag setting and more. For QAM256 the max bit rate is around 39 mbps and for QAM64 it is around 28 mbps, so by finding out which channel each program is on you can get an idea of the max bit rate available, but TSReader will show you the exact bit rate for each signal if you have it and the proper tuner.

You can also set up a computer to capture the firewire output from the 6416 box, there is info on this forum on how to do this. It will only capture channels that are set to "copy freely" and the "broadcast flag" has not been set. Even though the four network stations are set to copy freely by 5C the last time I checked the broadcast flag was set to on for all but WDRB so I could only record WDRB on my computer, but I found several of the HDTV channels did allow recording like NatGeo HDTV on Comcast in E-Town. I don't know if Insite allows any recording by firewire in Louisville.

I am sure there are other ways to do some of this stuff, I enjoy doing this so it is a challenge to find out this info.

Mike T

The WLKY main digital channel (32-1) is always sending a HDTV signal...
I am sure there are other ways to do some of this stuff, I enjoy doing this so it is a challenge to find out this info.

Mike T

Mike T,
Thank you for your detail answer. I really appreciate you taking the time to fill me in on this. Your info gives me something to work with.
Best to you,
Ghpr13:)

It looks like I will be moving to southern Indiana and into the Louisville DMA. Can anyone tell me how good the picture quality is on the Louisville locals using DISH Network? I understand that DISH recently added HD to the big four stations in Louisville. How does it look? Also, do any of the local stations show their local news shows in HD? Thanks to any of you who respond.

It looks like I will be moving to southern Indiana and into the Louisville DMA. Can anyone tell me how good the picture quality is on the Louisville locals using DISH Network? I understand that DISH recently added HD to the big four stations in Louisville. How does it look? Also, do any of the local stations show their local news shows in HD? Thanks to any of you who respond.

Dish HD locals look great. I have them OTA and off satellite on all my receivers and they both look good. WAVE 3 has local news in HD although the studio cameras are HD and the news cameras in the field are 16x9 SD but they still look better than 4x3 streached.

I'm disappointed with WLKY/CBS failure to keep our CARDS game on. I had to switch to the Internet stream to watch the CARDS vs Siena game. Shame on both WLKY and CBS!:mad:

I figure it would be a waste of time to call Insight on this, so...
Does anyone know what Insights signal type is? STD,IRC or HRC?
Thanks

Phil

I figure it would be a waste of time to call Insight on this, so...
Does anyone know what Insights signal type is? STD,IRC or HRC?
Thanks

PhilStandard (STD) frequencies.

Thanks vladd

I know Insight is deploying 6416 STB's. Do they have any newer/better models ? If so could you provide me the brand name and model # along with the secret handshake to get one ?

Thanks,
Scotty

Sorry, slightly off topic here...
The Dayton Audio plate amp in my sub amp has stopped working. Wanted to have it looked at to see if it can be repaired. Can anyone recommend a local electronics repair shop?
Thanks.

Back to your regularly scheduled broadcast...

GO CARDS!!!! Man are they fun to watch!!! Here's (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/11561568) a fun read...

I know Insight is deploying 6416 STB's. Do they have any newer/better models ? If so could you provide me the brand name and model # along with the secret handshake to get one ?

Thanks,
ScottyThey used to give out the DCT6416

http://broadband.motorola.com/dvr/images/dct6412_bigview_1.jpg


but now they are giving out the DCH6416: http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Home-Digital-Video/DCH6416-US-EN

They had to switch because of federal law with requires that new boxes now use cablecards for access.

To get the DCT6416, simply go into into any Insight office (like the one in Kroger off Hubbards Lane) and ask for one.

They used to give out the DCT6416

http://broadband.motorola.com/dvr/images/dct6412_bigview_1.jpg


but now they are giving out the DCH6416: http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Home-Digital-Video/DCH6416-US-EN

They had to switch because of federal law with requires that new boxes now use cablecards for access.

To get the DCT6416, simply go into into any Insight office (like the one in Kroger off Hubbards Lane) and ask for one.

Thanks for the reply vladd. I have the DCH 6416. Are you saying the DCT 6416 is a better box ? I assume the DCT is also a DVR, right ?

Thanks,
Scotty

Thanks for the reply vladd. I have the DCH 6416. Are you saying the DCT 6416 is a better box ? I assume the DCT is also a DVR, right ?

Thanks,
ScottyThe only real difference between the boxes is that the DCH uses cablecards and the DCT does not. There are some additional features on the DCH (like Connected Home) but they are not active on the Insight boxes. (Sidebar: If Insight activated the Connected Home feature, they would blow away all competition. Connected Home would allow you to record a program on one box and watch it from another.)

Both boxes had their little quirks but overall, they are pretty much the same. Neither one is really "better" than the other.

The only real difference between the boxes is that the DCH uses cablecards and the DCT does not. There are some additional features on the DCH (like Connected Home) but they are not active on the Insight boxes. (Sidebar: If Insight activated the Connected Home feature, they would blow away all competition. Connected Home would allow you to record a program on one box and watch it from another.)

Both boxes had their little quirks but overall, they are pretty much the same. Neither one is really "better" than the other.

Thanks vladd.

Scotty

I do have to correct myself, when I said To get the DCT6416, simply go into into any Insight office (like the one in Kroger off Hubbards Lane) and ask for oneI actually meant the DCH but I just noticed what I actually posted. I don't think you can get the DCT anymore.

Gotcha. I would like Speed and Golf Channel in HD. And MSNBC if they ever offer it to the providers. What's on your wish list ?

Scotty

Gotcha. I would like Speed and Golf Channel in HD. And MSNBC if they ever offer it to the providers. What's on your wish list ?

ScottyTo be honest, now that Battlestar Gallactica is over, all I watch are the locals and a couple of TNT shows.

I've been seriously considering switching to OTA and maybe getting Dish Turbo HD.

Is it true that WHAS-11 is televising Thunder Over Louisville this year and if so, will they be able to show it in true high definition?

Is it true that WHAS-11 is televising Thunder Over Louisville this year and if so, will they be able to show it in true high definition?

They are the ones televising Thunder, but I haven't heard anything about it being in HD, which will really suck if it's not in HD.
Ghpr13:(

I sent an email to the station asking if Thunder Over Louisville would be in high def and they replied within the next day with "Yes that is our plan."
Hooray!!

I sent an email to the station asking if Thunder Over Louisville would be in high def and they replied within the next day with "Yes that is our plan."
Hooray!!

That's great news! Last year I missed out on Fox's HD showing 'cause I didn't get my HDTV till May.
Ghpr13

Did anyone on Insight get freeze frames and sound dropouts during "24" tonight ? It was raining , but the timing as for as the show goes was horrible.

Scotty

Yes, there were a few times that happen but it wasn't that bad, I'm on Dish

Just a little info for the curious...

The WKPC analog transmitter was shut down by Bob Cole, who turned it on when he worked at channel 15. The WKMJ channel 68 transmitter was shut down by Gary Fautz, who turned in on in 1997.

Both gentlemen are KET retirees who went to the site to do the honors.

KET personnel Bruce Bottorff and Kevin Wooton were also on hand as was Tom Rowe formerly of the Jeff County Board of Education and Mrs. Cole.

William

I am watching Thunder Over Louisville on channel 11. The aspect ratio on the screen is 16x9. My question: Is it in true high definition? Some of the camera shots seem to indicate no, it isn't. The coverage on WHAS seems to be very good - at least to me.

I am watching Thunder Over Louisville on channel 11. The aspect ratio on the screen is 16x9. My question: Is it in true high definition? Some of the camera shots seem to indicate no, it isn't. The coverage on WHAS seems to be very good - at least to me.

Some of the camera shots even during the fireworks show looked SD to me.

All in all, not a bad production, but I feel that WDRB's coverage was a little better last year.

Some of the camera shots even during the fireworks show looked SD to me.

All in all, not a bad production, but I feel that WDRB's coverage was a little better last year.

I tend to agree. I didn't have an HDTV last year, but the camera shots seem better last year for both the air show & the fireworks. WDRB's pq was great even on SD. I can remember seeing right inside of the Apache's cockpit last year and it was so clear. Last night some shots of the Apaches were great , but alot were just so so.
Ghpr13:(

The shot from the air which had the best overall view was SD and looked very soft. Also some of the other cameras were also soft SD. At least the HD cameras they had looked good. Looks like I got a glitch-free recording on my computer of this show.

Mike T

There was one SD camera for sure. Brought up last years Thunder done by WDRB. WHAS had no sound coming from the back speakers. WDRB provided full surround sound and it sounded better than this year. Let's see who gets the broadcast rights next year....

So far my best vote is WDRB.

I believe next year is WAVE.

There was one SD camera for sure. Brought up last years Thunder done by WDRB. WHAS had no sound coming from the back speakers. WDRB provided full surround sound and it sounded better than this year. Let's see who gets the broadcast rights next year....

So far my best vote is WDRB.

I noticed about the surround sound too. At first I thought it was my set up because I just got my surround up & running on Thursday, but as I was watching the airshow I would switch channels to some other HD program and the surround speakers were sounding great. Back to the airshow, silence from my surrounds.
Ghpr13:(

I believe next year is WAVE.

That is to bad, get ready for low bit rate blurry-blocky-noisy video with probably a weather warning along the bottom.

Mike T

I can’t decode the new 11.2 Accuweather channel on my XBR6 Sony in the living room. It has good signal but says “signal can’t be decoded”. I get 11.1 ok. I get 11.2 ok on the XBR2 Sony in the bedroom. I have tried rescanning but doesn’t make any difference. Anyone else having this problem? I went to the diagnostics screen and all looks ok. Physical ch 55, modulation 8VSB, Locked, good snr and agc and a signal level of 87. But just can’t get it to display. Just wondered if anyone else was having the same problem?
Thanks

Looks OK on my Samgsung DLP, just west of E-Town.

Mike T

Thanks Mike T
Not sure what is going on with my set. I did a reset to the XBR6 and rescanned the channels but still can’t decode 11.2. Was just wondering if others were having the problem. There is a software upgrade for the XBR but I’m not having any problems with my set except the 11.2 thing but I didn’t read where it solves that type of problem. So I really don’t want to upgrade when the set picture is good.
I get 3.3 weather and the weather stations out of Indy ok. Just can’t get 11.2

One thing was when they were testing 11.2 I do remember seeing the color bars displayed.

I get the the new 11.2 AccuWeather channel on my Media Center PC. However, when using Orb I can't pick it up. I tried rescanning, but so far no good.:(

Would someone who's using a 32-bit Windows computer for OTA reception be willing to give me a few minutes or their time? I could analyze the signal and see if there's something wrong with WHAS-DT 11-2 if someone with that equipment could provide me with the data I need...

- Trip

Would someone who's using a 32-bit Windows computer for OTA reception be willing to give me a few minutes or their time? I could analyze the signal and see if there's something wrong with WHAS-DT 11-2 if someone with that equipment could provide me with the data I need...

- Trip
Give me a day or two to re-allocate a tuner for OTA.

Give me a day or two to re-allocate a tuner for OTA.

Thanks. :) What brand of tuners do you have?

Ideally I'd like a peek at everything in the area, if at all possible. I'm quite curious to see what WKMJ-DT looks like especially, as I've been told it's being used for datacasting. I'm also curious to see bitrates on WBNA with their six (!) subchannels and WJYL-DC if you can receive either of those.

- Trip

Would someone who's using a 32-bit Windows computer for OTA reception be willing to give me a few minutes or their time? I could analyze the signal and see if there's something wrong with WHAS-DT 11-2 if someone with that equipment could provide me with the data I need...

- Trip

I have an On Air Solutions Creator tuner running on Win XP and running TSReader software, I am about 50 miles southwest of Louisville.

Mike T W6MXV

I have an On Air Solutions Creator tuner running on Win XP and running TSReader software, I am about 50 miles southwest of Louisville.

Mike T W6MXV

Willing to help me out this evening? :D

I want HTML Exports from everything you can receive. In the HTML Export window, check all the boxes except "EIT" and "Thumbnails." Save and then zip them all up and send them to me: webmaster at rabbitears dot info

Thanks!

- Trip

Willing to help me out this evening? :D

I want HTML Exports from everything you can receive. In the HTML Export window, check all the boxes except "EIT" and "Thumbnails." Save and then zip them all up and send them to me: webmaster at rabbitears dot info

Thanks!

- Trip

Info just sent by e-mail let me know if they are OK.

Mike T

Info just sent by e-mail let me know if they are OK.

Mike T

They look great! Thanks! If you happen to see WKMJ or anything else via DX or anything like that, let me know. W6MXV this is KJ4IEA. :D

As far as WHAS, I don't see anything wrong with it. The only thing that stands out to me is that its PSIP call sign is "WHAS DT" with a space in it, and I recall some older TVs choking on that. Do you receive KET-ED on 15-4 when it's on the air during the day? They have the same thing going on. (I'm really doubtful that this is the problem, but it's worth ruling out.)

- Trip

They look great! Thanks! If you happen to see WKMJ or anything else via DX or anything like that, let me know. W6MXV this is KJ4IEA. :D

As far as WHAS, I don't see anything wrong with it. The only thing that stands out to me is that its PSIP call sign is "WHAS DT" with a space in it, and I recall some older TVs choking on that. Do you receive KET-ED on 15-4 when it's on the air during the day? They have the same thing going on. (I'm really doubtful that this is the problem, but it's worth ruling out.)

- Trip

CH 38 WKMJ is to weak to get a lock right now and I usually don't get KET on CH-15 very often.

Mike T

Since WKPC is identical to WKZT, don't worry about it. I don't need it. All the KET stations look the same.

Perhaps the weather will be kinder to you in the near future and WKMJ will become available. :)

- Trip

Anyone know what AT&T is up to?
Yesterday I saw someone walking in the rear of my property. I asked who he was and what he was doing. He said he was with AT&T and was checking pedestal locations. And said something about AT&T bringing a new internet and phone service to the area, TV I hope.
I'am in 40214 and DSL and phone is already available in my area.
Anyone have any more detailed information?
Lets hope Insight gets some competition.

U-Verse?

U-Verse?

Well that could be interesting.

https://uverse1.att.com/un/launchAMSS.do

I went to titan tv and there is a 32.2 and it says off air what is it?

I went to titan tv and there is a 32.2 and it says off air what is it?

During March Madness, it had an extra basketball game I think.

- Trip

^^^ Correct.

you don't think it's going to be a new subchannel that's not basketball

you don't think it's going to be a new subchannel that's not basketball

Well anything is possible. I'm just saying that for the past 6 years or so, 32.2 has arrived like clockwork for March Madness and has always disappeared as soon as MM ends. (Including this year.)

Anyone hear news of the new DCX boxes coming to Insight? I'd like to know when they might be picking them up. I've searched the net, but only can find the Cox cable has them in limited cities.

For the past three Sundays WLKY has obscured CBS SUNDAY MORNING (now broadcasting in HD) with their sidebars. I've written them each time via their Web page about the problem, but I never receive a reply.

I'm ready for June 12, but I'm not sure they are.

Last night while watching NCIS the picture on 32 WLKY started blinking in and out and then became stable again but then the audio went south at that point. For about 10 minutes it was silent and then came back as static for about three minutes and finally cleared up. Not sure if this was the CBS feed or 32 that was messed up.

Has anyone had problems with receiving WHAS 11 OTA as of 6/12? I live in Bullitt County @7 miles south of the Snyder. I can't receive it with either my indoor or outdoor antenna. Every other OTA channel is perfect. Thanks!

Has anyone had problems with receiving WHAS 11 OTA as of 6/12? I live in Bullitt County @7 miles south of the Snyder. I can't receive it with either my indoor or outdoor antenna. Every other OTA channel is perfect. Thanks!

Did you rescan? With all the digital stations that switched channels today, including WHAS, a complete and clean rescan should fix things.

I have a clearvue plug in antenna and I have heard it works with a converter box and if it does I wouldn't have to move an antenna again. Does anyone still have one?

Did you rescan? With all the digital stations that switched channels today, including WHAS, a complete and clean rescan should fix things.

I'm not sure what was going on, but I didn't see any whiffs from WHAS-DT on either ch55 or ch11 until after midnight.

I believe that WHAS is using channel 11 for digital now so you need to re-scan.

I did not get a signal until I re-scanned, but I did get WHAS digital off Comcast Cable box in E-Town so they were broadcasting as Comcast uses antennas at their office in E-Town for the Louisville signals.

Mike T

I have a clearvue plug in antenna and I have heard it works with a converter box and if it does I wouldn't have to move an antenna again. Does anyone still have one?

Yes. Pretty much any antenna will work. Those so called "digital antenna" were just regular antenna and some of them were UHF only. Anyone who bought one of those UHF only ones are going to be real upset now that some of their channels have moved back to the VHF range.

Did you rescan? With all the digital stations that switched channels today, including WHAS, a complete and clean rescan should fix things.

Thanks! Problem solved!

Thanks! Problem solved!

No problem. For those of us who have been running DTV setups for a while, it seems like the biggest problem so far has been rescanning. Fortunately we won't have to clobber and rebuild everything as often now.

P.S. While our local low-power DTV station (WOTH) was off the air this past week due to transmitter equipment problems, people here in Cincinnati were getting WAVE. I'm still surprised that the FCC gave WOTH channel 47 to run their digital on with WAVE being relatively close. (What are they going to do with their giant tower in Oldham county now?)

WLKY is asleep at the wheel again. Four weeks in a row they have neglected to remove their sidebars that obstruct the high-definition picture on CBS SUNDAY MORNING.

Hello, I’m brand new to your forum. I receive my television over the air and my Sony TV is able to receive tvgos (TV guide on screen) programming information. It worked fine, for the most part, until sometime in May when it quit working. It does not work at all now. I've tried using the various tvgos codes to reset it, then to force it to look only on digital channels for a host channel, all with no luck. I crossed my fingers and waited until the "BIG SWITCH", still nothing. I have found a reference online that suggest that WLKY should be providing this tvgos information and is not. The site is linked in "trip in va's" signature (which is how I found this forum, thanks!)

So, my questions are, is anyone else receiving tvgos data over the air? If so, who is the host channel? If not any idea why? Do any local channels plan to start sending tvgos information again? Does anyone have any contacts over at WLKY so I can ask an engineer? I've had no luck with their "contact us" link from their website. Thanks in advance for your help.
Steven Clark

WLKY is not transmitting TVGOS, and I think that's a corporate decision. I don't think any Hearst CBS stations are carrying it. Nor is KET.

As far as I know, there is no TVGOS affiliate in Louisville.

- Trip

Thanks for the reply. I suppose I can give up then. It’s too bad no one sends tvgos, it was a great service, a real time saver. I could tell if there was nothing on in just a few seconds instead of having to transverse the dial.
Steven Clark

You might try calling Macrovision. They might be talking to WHAS or one of the other local stations to carry it. It's worth a try.

- Trip

My parents live in Oldham County (Buckner area), and with a signal booster, they can get everything in except WHAS-DT. I've tried nearly every trick in the book, but no dice. Anyone know of a solution?

My parents live in Oldham County (Buckner area), and with a signal booster, they can get everything in except WHAS-DT. I've tried nearly every trick in the book, but no dice. Anyone know of a solution?

WHAS 11 has moved back to VHF 11 for their digital signal. Unless you parents have a VHF antenna (not UHF) then 11 is a no go.

My parents live in Oldham County (Buckner area), and with a signal booster, they can get everything in except WHAS-DT. I've tried nearly every trick in the book, but no dice. Anyone know of a solution?

What kind of antenna? I think that WHAS DT is now back on channel 11 so you would need an antenna for that channel.

Mike T

I recently decided to drop satellite/cable for over-the-air and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions concerning equipment. I live in the St Regis area so trees are about the only thing that would block reception. I am going to buy a tuner card for my pc running Windows Media Center (Vista) and also buy an antenna. I don't have a problem mounting the antenna outside as I assume that is preferable to the attic, but I am not sure I want anything really noticeable. Right now my Dish is mounted on the roof in the rear of my home so its size isn't much of an issue but I believe the best place for an antenna will be on the side of my home, visible to the street.

Currently I am looking at getting the Hauppauge 2250. I definitely want duel tuners and need an MCE remote. I really haven't narrowed down any antennas yet. Any thoughts or experiences. Thanks.

Does CW have an HD station that can be received in Louisville. I thought it was 34.1 but I'm not getting it?

Does CW have an HD station that can be received in Louisville. I thought it was 34.1 but I'm not getting it?

That's the one. The actual physical channel is 19 ... and it's located south of Bardstown and north of Campbellsville. I don't know if they have the old Ch28 class A transmitter converted yet.

That's the one. The actual physical channel is 19 ... and it's located south of Bardstown and north of Campbellsville. I don't know if they have the old Ch28 class A transmitter converted yet.

Are people getting good reception from their HD station near Bardstown and will the Louisville transmitter on 28 be HD when they switch? I may need to rethink my antenna setup.

Are people getting good reception from their HD station near Bardstown and will the Louisville transmitter on 28 be HD when they switch? I may need to rethink my antenna setup.

I don't see why the Ch28/Digital34 would be any different. I would guess that they'll set it up with a central HD encoder (like KET) and just pipe the same signal to both transmitters.

As for the reception question, Ch19 comes in fine for me, but then again I'm not in L'ville. Your results will likely vary, in any case you probably will need to point your antenna south (or SSE) to have a chance at ch19. FWIW, according to the FCC predictions, most of the L'ville metro is with in the coverage range of Ch19.

What kind of antenna? I think that WHAS DT is now back on channel 11 so you would need an antenna for that channel.

Mike T

It is this RCA one - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8939786&type=product&id=1215217075641

Says it supports VHF stations - and it is the same OTA antenna I use. This is the second VHF antenna I've used, and still no WHAS-11 signal.

All the channels have strong signals - even gets channels 16.1-16.5.


Follow up - anyone know what's up with Insight and the CW? It was there, now it's gone. The only one I can pull up over cable is the analogue channel (6).

Are people getting good reception from their HD station near Bardstown and will the Louisville transmitter on 28 be HD when they switch? I may need to rethink my antenna setup.

Last night, I was pulling in enough of a signal from WBKI analog ch28 to confirm that it was still operating. I think the plan was to flash cut, so I assume they haven't started digital operations from the class A/ LD site yet. Point those antennas south ...

It is this RCA one - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8939786&type=product&id=1215217075641

Says it supports VHF stations - and it is the same OTA antenna I use. This is the second VHF antenna I've used, and still no WHAS-11 signal.

Dubious claims for VHF, I wouldn't be surprised if a cheap pair of rabbit ears worked better than that antenna.

When it comes to VHF, there's just no substitute for big metal and outdoor installations.

FWIW, I was getting enough signal from WHAS-DT on my CM4228 rig last night to confirm that signal strength is probably not the issue here. If I hooked up a proper high-band VHF antenna .... :)

My parents live in Oldham County (Buckner area), and with a signal booster, they can get everything in except WHAS-DT. I've tried nearly every trick in the book, but no dice. Anyone know of a solution?

You will need to do a recan with the receiver to receive 11 DT.

Last night, I was pulling in enough of a signal from WBKI analog ch28 to confirm that it was still operating. I think the plan was to flash cut, so I assume they haven't started digital operations from the class A/ LD site yet. Point those antennas south ...

I called WBKI today and asked about their Louisville antenna. They said it's exempt from the DTV transition (which I assumed) and there are no current plans to change to digital or HD.

I bought a directional antenna (Terk HDTVo) as I thought everything was within 6 degree of each other (according to antenna web) until I found that the WBKI Louisville antenna was analog. I can get it in, but I decided to point towards their HD broadcast as you advised, which is about 50 miles away. As it turns out, vmc was showing 6 out 6 bars and the picture is great. On top of that, all the other Louisville stations are close enough that they show full strength without being pointed towards them, with the exception of a couple of KET stations which will probably be fixed when I mount the antenna on the second floor roof. So I think a directional antenna is a must if I want to pick up the CW in HD.

When I get it permanently mounted I'll post my results.

I called WBKI today and asked about their Louisville antenna. They said it's exempt from the DTV transition (which I assumed) and there are no current plans to change to digital or HD.

I'm not sure who you talked to, but they do have a construction permit approved to switch the Ch28 class-A transmitter to Ch34 digital. So if there's a delay, it's all WBKI's at this point.

OTOH, it could be the case that the low power digital may not be as necessary to get the city covered.

Last night, I was pulling in enough of a signal from WBKI analog ch28 to confirm that it was still operating. I think the plan was to flash cut, so I assume they haven't started digital operations from the class A/ LD site yet. Point those antennas south ...

WBKI-LD channel is supposed to be on channel 34. http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=WBKI-LD

I guess that will confuse my tv, it already maps WBKI-DT as channel 34.1

I guess that will confuse my tv, it already maps WBKI-DT as channel 34.1

Nah ... if and when they convert, the LD will probably be virtual 28.1 (on physical ch34) and WBKI-DT will remain virtual 34.1 (on physical channel 19) ... Anybody got a headache yet? :)

I would expect them to send the same signal out through both transmitters, which is to say that both would map to 34-1. A tuner which properly handles PSIP should show two stations on 34-1, and then you would just delete the weaker one in the menus.

- Trip

A tuner which properly handles PSIP should show two stations on 34-1,

Yeah ... but that may be asking a lot. :)

In other news: Nice tropo this AM ... WHAS-DT and WBNA-DT were booming in on the CM4228. And by some folks standards, WBKI analog 28 was "watchable" too.

It's something... but it's only HSN 50-1 W50CI-LD

15 kW

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=w50ci

home shopping network is over the air now?

I note RTV has found a home on WBNA 21-4...

- Trip

I am in Louisville visiting family and helped my grandmother with a new TV. THe antenna I brought that works fine in Charlotte does not work too well here. It's an amplified Monoprice.com special. Her house is brick and one story, I think I may need to install her an outdoor antenna.

Since I am not familiar with the area, can anyone point me in the direction to find an antenna supplier in Louisville?

Her house is in the 40219 zip in the Okolona area,

Thanks!

I have a couple of questions regarding OTA reception. I have an outdoor mounted antenna. I am able to pick up the locals except for WBKI. The problem is on some of my tv's channel 68 appears as 38-3 & 38-4, and channel 11 shows as 70-1 on my dish dvrpal. Will rescanning correct this?

I have a couple of questions regarding OTA reception. I have an outdoor mounted antenna. I am able to pick up the locals except for WBKI. The problem is on some of my tv's channel 68 appears as 38-3 & 38-4, and channel 11 shows as 70-1 on my dish dvrpal. Will rescanning correct this?

Couldn't hurt, but as long as you can receive them ("68" and 11), why bother?

I am able to pick up the locals except for WBKI.

WBKI is only broadcasting analog from their Louisville antenna, on channel 28. If your trying for the digital station on 34.1, you won't see it unless you try for their antenna on the other side of Bardstown, to the south.

I have a couple of questions regarding OTA reception. I have an outdoor mounted antenna. I am able to pick up the locals except for WBKI. The problem is on some of my tv's channel 68 appears as 38-3 & 38-4, and channel 11 shows as 70-1 on my dish dvrpal. Will rescanning correct this?

The 70-1 issue does require you delete it and 11-1, then rescan. If that doesn't work, do a full rescan on it. That's an issue specific to the DTVPal line of products.

- Trip

Thanks, I'll try that tonight

Also check the unit and make sure it doesn't have a "catv" mode...

Did anyone in Louisville area record the Sugarland concert on WHAS on monday in HDTV?

If so send me a PM.
Thanks

Mike T

I was wondering what anyone's experience is here in Louisville with picking up WBKI's digital signal in Campbellsville. What antenna are you using and what is the performance/reliability? Thanks.

I live in Frankfort and I get all of the Louisville Channel, however I have a hard time getting WHAS, and I am not alone with this problems neigbors around me are having the same problem. Some times you get a good signal in the 90's maybe 5 minutes later you get no signal at all. I would say the problem was only with me but the more people I talk with here in Franfort are having the same problem. I have a VHF UHF antenna, and can even pickup up Ohio channels, but WHAS is hit and Miss. It worked super well before they switched to 11 vhf, when they were on 55 it was stable, but not since the change, any suggestions out there?