Is whas 11 news in hd now?

No and no plans to do so have been announced.

the noon news was full screen on their hd channel

Just checked the 5:30 News. It is an upconvert not HD. Does not look very good.

Just checked the 5:30 News. It is an upconvert not HD. Does not look very good.

Stevenshs,
How does one tell if it's an upcovert and not true HD?
Thanks,
Ghpr13:confused:

Stevenshs,
How does one tell if it's an upcovert and not true HD?
Thanks,
Ghpr13:confused:

Watch Wave 3 news for a bit then switch to 11. You will see the difference then.

Slightly off topic, but I have hundreds of Laser video disks, movies, music concerts, etc...

I also have 3 Pioneer Laser Disk players and I would give all to someone who can use them, just can't throw them all away, yet. I am about 15 miles west of Elizabethtown and could meet in Louisville, if necessary.

Mike Tallent

Is anyone going to get AT+T Uverse?

Is anyone going to get AT+T Uverse?

When is it supposed to be available?

Here are the details an it looks like it is available today in certain areas.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/att-u-verse-arrives-in-louisville,941860.shtml

Apparently not available for me yet. I'd be interested in testing the TV services.

Edit: It's not available for anyone yet it seems. They are taking orders as of today but it could be up to 2 months before it actually launches.

If it is as good as advertised, I might consider the jump from Dish Network, but the dvr's would have to be as good.

Pros: there is one DVR that distributes to other receivers. This means you can record in one room and watch in another.

Cons: There is limited bandwidth so you can currently only record 2 HD + 2 SD shows simultaneously. This means that you could not record WHAS, WLKY and WAVE in HD on the same timeslot. You would need to record one in SD.

The Dish dvr's allow the recording of 3 shows simultaneously, 2 satellite & 1 ota while watching any recorded event. They also have a newer unit that allows for recording of 2 satellite & 2 ota at the same time. Both allow connections to multiple tv's - 1 hd & 1 sd for independent viewing

More info on U-Verse:

You can only pause/ff/rew on the main DVR unit. The other boxes can only record/play/delete.
HD streams are 6-8 Mb/sec. I really hope H.264. If it's MPEG2, I don't even need to see it to know the quality sucks.

Here is the link to the wiki link for U-verse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Verse

As an Insight customer the 2 recording stream limit is not that big a deal.

Here is the link to the wiki link for U-verse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Verse

As an Insight customer the 2 recording stream limit is not that big a deal.I'm an insight customer and it's a pretty big deal for me. There are several times when there are 3 programs in the same timeslot that I want to record. Now if you are an Insight customer with only 1 DVR, that's a different story.

The wikipedia entry states that it is H.264 but that means that they are decoding and then re-encoding the original MPEG 2 signals so there will be quality loss. The amount of quality loss will depend on their re-encode process.

So I'm switching from Direct tv to cable tomorrow. Doing a bundle type of deal combining cable, phone and internet.

Whenever I want the best signal to watch a fotball game I bypass my sat box and go straight OTA. I get a better signal that way.

The cable guy told me that the locals that I get via their box will be just as high of quality as the OTA stuff. Is this true? I live here in KY and the cable company is insight.

So I'm switching from Direct tv to cable tomorrow. Doing a bundle type of deal combining cable, phone and internet.

Whenever I want the best signal to watch a fotball game I bypass my sat box and go straight OTA. I get a better signal that way.

The cable guy told me that the locals that I get via their box will be just as high of quality as the OTA stuff. Is this true? I live here in KY and the cable company is insight.

That's not true, or at least not as of last December. I was wondering this myself and asked about it on this forum. Vladd responded with this.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15308299#post15308299

Looks like it's time to get rid of my digital cable.

Channel|OTA|Insight
WAVE 3|12.0|12.0
WHAS 11|18.0|16.2
WLKY 32|18.0|14.7
WDRB 41|15.5|10.0
WMYO 58|18.5|16.5

As you can see, the only channel that they are not recompressing is WAVE 3 who already compresses their signal.

Note that these are the video bitrates only and they are variable. I did not include the audio and reported an average rate.

That's not true, or at least not as of last December. I was wondering this myself and asked about it on this forum. Vladd responded with this.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15308299#post15308299

Wow- Good info. Thanks

Yup, it used to be true but they started recompressing shortly before I did that test.

So I'm switching from Direct tv to cable tomorrow. Doing a bundle type of deal combining cable, phone and internet.

Whenever I want the best signal to watch a fotball game I bypass my sat box and go straight OTA. I get a better signal that way.

The cable guy told me that the locals that I get via their box will be just as high of quality as the OTA stuff. Is this true? I live here in KY and the cable company is insight.

MColeman,
I wish you luck with your DVR from Insight. I had Insight for more then 12 years without a problem, but in May of 2008 I upgraded to HD and the Moto box I got from Insight was a piece of crap. Insight replaced it 3 times in 6 months. One time, the "new" box that was replacing a box that the HDD had died in, had to be replace after the tech had it all set up because it would not work. He tried for 45min to get it to work, then unhooked it and got another "new" box. That one did work, but we always had trouble getting the remote to work. The box just would not respond.
In June of this year I moved to Fairdale and was able to get Dish. Both my wife and I are very happy with the Dish's DVR.
I don't work for Dish, or ever had, and I'm not trying to sell Dish. I'm just stating that IMO the Motorola DVR that Insight rents to their customers is very out dated and not user friendly.
I do wish you well,
Ghpr13:)

KET will begin broadcasting HD content 24/7 on KET1 starting today, for anyone interested.

http://www.wfpl.org/2009/09/30/ket-1-going-entirely-hd/

Also, I noticed a large number of AT&T trucks in the Brookhaven neighborhood the past couple of days. I'm not sure if its related to U-verse or not.

I was watching Masterpiece Theater OTA on KET-1 last night and heard another male voice in my rear channel speakers, it was discribing the actions taking place on the TV screen. Like CC for the blind maybe. It was very distracting.

What happened KET?

PS: Earlier there was tone on KET-1 that made impossible to watch

Sounds like you may have turned on SAP audio. There should be a function to turn it off in your TV.

- Trip

I was watching Masterpiece Theater OTA on KET-1 last night and heard another male voice in my rear channel speakers, it was discribing the actions taking place on the TV screen. Like CC for the blind maybe. It was very distracting.

What happened KET?

PS: Earlier there was tone on KET-1 that made impossible to watch

I had this happen too, on a cartoon my son was watching. I was thinking it was odd that there was a strange, quiet narration going on in my left ear. I'm using media center straight to the receiver. I haven't heard is since but I'll check for SAP too.

Its and issue on our end... we're working on it..

William

Its and issue on our end... we're working on it..

William

Also ... it looks like you're tickling the HD-TiVo's (HR10-250) bug again. It's hit or miss, though. Sometimes it's the full stop-motion video effect, sometimes it's just the audio dropping in and out. Whatever it is, it's not affecting my other receiver.

Also ... it looks like you're tickling the HD-TiVo's (HR10-250) bug again. It's hit or miss, though. Sometimes it's the full stop-motion video effect, sometimes it's just the audio dropping in and out. Whatever it is, it's not affecting my other receiver.

Just the HD or all services?


Since it was a total re-configuration all bets are off..

Just spoke with a CSR at a local AT&T store. (Had to get a new sim card) He said he thought about 40% of Louisville would be available for U-verse when its completely rolled out and that right now he knew the Highlands and the area around the Summit were getting it. He said 18Mbps was going to be available. He also mentioned it will be a more reliable connection speed compared to Insight. Not sure about anyone else, but I always see my 10Mbps when I test my connection.

Just the HD or all services?

As far as I can tell it's only on the HD sub. And it does seem to be somewhat program dependent. I watched a bit of the Nightly Biz Report (Tue 10/6) and it was ok, but then it started hiccuping through the KET cards. By the time Darwin started, I bailed out to the other receiver. BTW, I did notice that you went back to 2.0 tonight, but that didn't seem to have much effect on the problem.

It was working OK before the reconfigure, so if you can remember what you did to fix it last time .... yeah, I know .... ;)

Low priority, I can always watch KET-HD live as long as it's not between 8-10pm Thursday nights.

Its and issue on our end... we're working on it..

William

Thanks for head up. For the others, I didn't have SAP turned on

I have not noticed before, but it looks like WGN and Liftetime HD were added into Insight's HD lineup recently. I just noticed the two channels show up yesterday does any one know when they were added?

Is wlky news in hd? No bars on 11:00 news

Is wlky news in hd? No bars on 11:00 news
Still looks like SD to me, just scaled to 16:9.

Digital channel 24 is on the air... 24-1, 24-2, and 24.3

Digital channel 24 is on the air... 24-1, 24-2, and 24.3

What is it? My hdhomerun tuner is showing 24.1 WYCS, 34.2 WBKI, and 9.1 WNDA on RF 24. This appears to be a local SD feed of WBKI or at least the second sub-channel is.

Well it was showing this. Now it shows no data.

OK now it shows:

24.1 WBKI
24.2 WYCS
24.3 WNDA

But it has been fluctuating order and numbering quite a bit.

What is it? My hdhomerun tuner is showing 24.1 WYCS, 34.2 WBKI, and 9.1 WNDA on RF 24. This appears to be a local SD feed of WBKI or at least the second sub-channel is.

Well it was showing this. Now it shows no data.

Speaking of WBKI (34.1 via ch19,) does anyone know why the CW-HD feed is down? ... Flooded dish? ... Mucking about with the configuration(s)?

Speaking of WBKI (34.1 via ch19,) does anyone know why the CW-HD feed is down? ... Flooded dish? ... Mucking about with the configuration(s)?

In case it helps, I'm getting 34.1 in at the moment.

In case it helps, I'm getting 34.1 in at the moment.

Yeah so am I ... in glorious upcoverted 4:3 SD ... the problem is that there's been no network HD feed from CW for the past week.

Yeah so am I ... in glorious upcoverted 4:3 SD ... the problem is that there's been no network HD feed from CW for the past week.

Sorry, thought you were implying that the entire feed was down. I called WBKI about that and RF 24. They are aware of the HD problem and hope to have it online as soon as possible. They didn't give me a cause.

As far as RF 24, they were surprised I knew about it as it is officially supposed to be online today at noon. It should show up as 34-2.

As far as RF 24, they were surprised I knew about it as it is officially supposed to be online today at noon. It should show up as 34-2.

Yeah, I was pulling it in a little while ago. Interesting use of an LD. I wonder if this means WBKI is going to abandon their own LD plans.

Yeah, I was pulling it in a little while ago. Interesting use of an LD. I wonder if this means WBKI is going to abandon their own LD plans.

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

The conversion of analog Ch28 to digital (ch34 RF.) Frankly, I don't see the point of WBKI going up on ch24, unless it's just a temporary "fix."

... in any case, day 8+ of no CW-HD is more troubling (to me.)

The conversion of analog Ch28 to digital (ch34 RF.) Frankly, I don't see the point of WBKI going up on ch24, unless it's just a temporary "fix.

I was under the impression that there were two separate broadcasts from Floyds Knobs. The analog signal on 28 (RF 28) and the digital on 34.2 (RF24). I have an hdhomerun so I can't see ch28 to check. I was thinking that this may be a step in the transition to make their RF 28 broadcast a digital HD signal for the Louisville area while maintaining an SD broadcast. Maybe thats not possible. I do know their rep. said he was sure they plan to transition to an HD feed for Louisville but gave no specifics.

... in any case, day 8+ of no CW-HD is more troubling (to me.)

I agree. I recently spent a lot of time and money in my change to OTA to get this channel in from Louisville, a separate antenna, preamp and jointenna, not to mention the various setups I had to go through. Just for the HD.

Hey folks, new here... Right now we're using indoor antennas since we're quite close to the knobs, but I'm in the process of putting up a small outside antenna. I hooked up the outside antenna today temporarily to test it out and noticed I was getting WBKI on 34.2 for the first time. It had good signal but no audio -- anybody else notice that today, or was something broken on my side? :D

Hmm, something was broken on their side. We're getting audio on 34-2 now with and even picking it up with our rabbit ears.

Louisville area DirecTV subscribers:

Could you clarify a local programming question? I had heard a rumor that they would be adding PBS HD. But the online local channel lookup tool now lists WKMJ 68-2, which would imply a simulcast of what is already shown on WKPC 15. What are they actually showing on these channels?

The CW is back to broadcasting in HD on 34.1 (RF19).

Wikipedia is stating that WBKI is broadcasting on 28 and 34, both from Floyds Knobs. I assume the channel 34 reference is digital 34.2 on RF 24. My hdhomerun is digital only. Out of curiosity, can anyone confirm that WBKI is still broadcasting analog on 28?

The CW is back to broadcasting in HD on 34.1 (RF19).


Yep ... they got it fixed in time for "Smallville" last Friday.


Wikipedia is stating that WBKI is broadcasting on 28 and 34, both from Floyds Knobs. I assume the channel 34 reference is digital 34.2 on RF 24. My hdhomerun is digital only. Out of curiosity, can anyone confirm that WBKI is still broadcasting analog on 28?

I was still getting something analog on Ch28 last week. Being 75(ish) miles from the tower, I couldn't tell exactly what it was, but, I thought I could make out a WBKI logo through the snow. I have gotten whiffs of something digital on ch34, but I'm pretty sure it's *not* WBKI-LD ... yet. Probably something bouncing in from another distant market.

Ch24 (W24BM) digital appears to be something entirely different ... not owned or operated by WBKI.

Yes I am getting 28 analog ntsc over the air. Good and solid. I also get 34.1 with lots of breakup and audio dropouts. Will try and get better with my antenna but, I now get everyone else rock solid. 34.1 on Direct TV by Sat. is fine. Must be running a low power on digital....week signal here. I receive nothing on 24.

I am not receiving 34.1 via antenna. I am receiving 34.2. Are they being broadcast from different locations?

I am not receiving 34.1 via antenna. I am receiving 34.2. Are they being broadcast from different locations?

Yes, and on different RF frequencies.

Digital 34.1 is being broadcast from an antenna between Bardstown and Campbellsville KY, to the south of Louisville. This is the HD feed of WBKI on RF 19. This is a high power broadcast for the whole central Kentucky area.

Digital 34.2 is being broadcast from Floyds Knobs IN, to the NW of Louisville. This is the digital standard definition feed of WBKI on RF 24 for the Louisville area. It is a much lower power broadcast than the HD feed.

In addition, they are broadcasting another signal from Floyds Knobs. This is an analog feed of WBKI on RF 28. This is also a lower power feed for Louisville.

wazoo sports is on channel 524 it came on this morning

For a few days now, I been having a very bad problem with the audio on Fox 41 being waaaay out of sync with the video. I have a Dish 722k that hooked up to my Samsung LCD via HDMI. I get my local channels through Dish, not OTA. This problem on Fox 41 is anytime and any program, HD or SD. It has happened on Judge Judy, the News, and prime time programs like Bones. This is the only channel that I have a problem with.
Any one else out there having any similar problems with Fox 41?
Ghpr13:confused:

BTW:Ken H, Sorry about posting incorrectly.

I'm sitting here watching the Louisville game on the Big East Network in SD. Anyone know if there is any hope of the Big East Network broadcasting in HD soon?

I'm sitting here watching the Louisville game on the Big East Network in SD. Anyone know if there is any hope of the Big East Network broadcasting in HD soon?

I wish, imo WHAS has always had a poor pq when compared to the other local stations. Its too bad Big East Network doesn't have a contract with the local NBC affiliate instead, WAVE would be broadcasting the games in HD then...

Hello all,

I think I'm finally ready to drop insight and go OTA high def. Antennaweb.org tells me I need a small multi-directional outdoor antenna to receive adequate reception, but all the stations I'm interested in are in the 284-289 compass heading range. I've read that you don't really need a multi-directional if your desired stations are within 20 deg of each other. I currently live in the East End of Louisville off the snyder/71. Do you guys think I could get buy with an indoor antenna? And if so, any particular brands you recommend?

Thanks in advance

I am in Springhurst and have an antenna in the Attic and get very good reception. Keep in mind that we have both VHF and UHF signals for our locals so whatever antenna you get will need to receive both.

I am in Springhurst and have an antenna in the Attic and get very good reception. Keep in mind that we have both VHF and UHF signals for our locals so whatever antenna you get will need to receive both.

We live in a single story house, so no attic, but I pretty much live in Springhurst too. We're planning on moving this coming July, so I didn't want to install an outdoor antenna. Anybody have any experience with indoor antennas in the springhurst area?

So I thought I'd update this thread in case it may help others. According to antennaweb.org, I needed a small multidirectional antenna. The big 4 network towers are all 17-18 miles away from my house. I ended up just buying a RCA multi-directional digital flat amplified antenna model # ANT1450B. I'm pleased to report that I get ABC, NBC, FOX, PBS, CBS without any problems, which corresponds to the "yellow" channels on antennaweb.org. I can't receive any of the red or violet channels, but didn't expect too. Set up was very easy, just plugged the antenna into the pre-amp and plugged the unit into the TV antenna in

Anyone near Etown using an antennea and receiving Lexington digitals? if so, what direction are you pointing and and antennea are you using? I receive Louisville channels like a champ and I am closer to Glendale than Etown. Thanks in advance.

I know this question is almost a year old but since I am in the same area as Jslim I thought I would respond to his question and throw out a question of my own.

I live in Glendale and can get none of the Lexington stations. I use a Radio Shack outdoor antenna at about 20' with an amplifier and receive most of the Louisville stations at 80% strength or better and WKZT at 100%. I use a second antenna to catch WBKI near Bardstown. Not being able to tune the Lexington stations is not a concern since they rarely have anything on that I cannot get from the Louisville stations.

Here's my setup then my question. Both antennas are from Radio Shack (primary (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3808570), secondary (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103088)) the amp is a Motorola Signal Booster (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000066E6Y/ref=ox_ya_oh_product). I have the two antenna feeding into a splitter (as a combiner) then to the booster then to my TiVo, TV and FM tuner. I am approx 40-50 miles from the transmitters. Even with > 80% signal I still get some digital "static" for lack of a better term. I've been living with it for quite a while but was wondering if that static is just something I should expect from an OTA setup or if it's the equipment I use?

I am about 6 miles north of Cecilia I bought the biggest RS had about 10 years ago, it looks close to this one--
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3767303

I use a Channel Master 7777 pre-amp as it had the lowest noise that I could find. I get most Lou stations except KET, also I get WBKI and KET E-Town without any problems. I do not have a rotator installed on it yet so I am unable to try any in Lex.

If by "static" you mean freezing and blocking then it is probably signal strength or multi-path problems.

The 7777 pre-amp has a little lower noise and much more gain than the Motorola you have so it might be an upgrade and it should be as close to the antenna as you can get, and You should be using at least RG-6 coax run to the receiver. Also getting it higher would probably help, mine is about 8 feet above the chimney on a 2 story house.

A switch would be MUCH better than adding the 2 antennas together in a combiner as multi-path signals will be added together and cause problems, the next time you see the "static", disconnect the unused antenna and see if it helps, it might not help on all channels.

Mike T

A switch would be MUCH better than adding the 2 antennas together in a combiner as multi-path signals will be added together and cause problems, the next time you see the "static", disconnect the unused antenna and see if it helps, it might not help on all channels.

Mike T
A switch won't work for me. I have a TiVo on that line that will need to be able to record off of either antenna and sometimes both. What are my alternatives?

A switch won't work for me. I have a TiVo on that line that will need to be able to record off of either antenna and sometimes both. What are my alternatives?

You might first see if it causing some of the problems you have, if it is then if the antenna is only used for one channel, then you can get a channel filter that only passes the wanted channel and attenuates all the other channels. I don't think they are very expensive, but they need to be ordered for the correct channel frequency you want to receive. Here is some info
http://www.tinlee.com/bandpass_filters.php?active=1#CFAL

Mike T

A switch won't work for me. I have a TiVo on that line that will need to be able to record off of either antenna and sometimes both. What are my alternatives?How many stations come from each direction? You could take the antenna with fewer stations, and feed into digital signal processors set to receive those numbers and convert to different numbers, and use directional couplers backwards to merge the processor outputs with the other antenna. That would avoid destructive multipath interference from the wrong direction. But this is not inexpensive: the Pico Macom model DSP-806 costs over $500 apiece, just for one channel.

One antenna only receives one station as far as I know.

Thanks for the help. I will consider those options but, I think for a price tag of $500 I will suffer with a bit of blocking and freezing.

One antenna only receives one station as far as I know.

Thanks for the help. I will consider those options but, I think for a price tag of $500 I will suffer with a bit of blocking and freezing.With only one station from a different direction, you can use the JoinTenna from Channel Master as an inexpensive solution. http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGIC_en___US340&q=channel+master+jointenna&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=xttiS4fWG4u1tgfl692pBg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=3&ved=0CB4QzAMwAg Another but more expensive option is a bandpass filter from Blonder Tongue. http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=05&p=SS4805&d=Blonder-Tongue-BPFU-Single-Channel-UHF-Bandpass-Filter--470806-MHz-%28BPFU%29&sku=4805 These block all frequencies except the desired station's to avoid destructive multipath interference from the antenna aimed in the "wrong" direction. (You need to specify the one channel you want when ordering these filters.)

Yes, and on different RF frequencies.

Digital 34.1 is being broadcast from an antenna between Bardstown and Campbellsville KY, to the south of Louisville. This is the HD feed of WBKI on RF 19. This is a high power broadcast for the whole central Kentucky area.

Digital 34.2 is being broadcast from Floyds Knobs IN, to the NW of Louisville. This is the digital standard definition feed of WBKI on RF 24 for the Louisville area. It is a much lower power broadcast than the HD feed.

In addition, they are broadcasting another signal from Floyds Knobs. This is an analog feed of WBKI on RF 28. This is also a lower power feed for Louisville.

Living in Shepherdsville, I am unable to receive the signal from Campbellsville/Bardstown without adding a 2nd antenna. Would this be feasible or will the Floyds Knobs feed eventually turn to HD?

With only one station from a different direction, you can use the JoinTenna from Channel Master as an inexpensive solution. http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGIC_en___US340&q=channel+master+jointenna&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=xttiS4fWG4u1tgfl692pBg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=3&ved=0CB4QzAMwAg
That sounds like ideal. Whether or not that is what is causing my interference, it couldn't hurt.

Living in Shepherdsville, I am unable to receive the signal from Campbellsville/Bardstown without adding a 2nd antenna. Would this be feasible or will the Floyds Knobs feed eventually turn to HD?
I'd love to know this, too. That would eliminate my need for the 2nd antenna that I have now. Actually it woudn't. Id probably just turn it towards WBKO in Bowling Green. :)

I suspect that the WBKI-CA signal on channel 28 will eventually be made digital and HD, but the when is another story.

- Trip

I suspect that the WBKI-CA signal on channel 28 will eventually be made digital and HD, but the when is another story.

They haven't been passing HD at all (even on 19.1) for the past month or so.

Their phone tree option for master control just says Invalid entry. Very annoying.

According to WBKI's Facebook page, the HD problem was supposed to have been fixed this week. Doesn't look like they made the cut.

I was looking around on their FB page and the photos indicate that they moved to different facilities. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that these HD problems are somehow related to that move. But, it's been at least a month since they posted those photos.

Has anyone noticed the color in a scene get darker then lighter very quickly almost like a flicker? I have noticed this on Lost and Modern family? I have Insight and notice this with the Motorola 6416

Has anyone noticed the color in a scene get darker then lighter very quickly almost like a flicker? I have noticed this on Lost and Modern family? I have Insight and notice this with the Motorola 6416

Sounds like you have Dynamic Contrast enabled on your TV. Try disabling it.

This is from Craig Hoffman Director of Station Operation for WBKI via email after I had asked him about the problem.

Very late Wednesday night—or early-early Thursday morning our corporate engineer replaced an HD Encoder Box. I believe it was the third one in 3 weeks. As of Friday—shows that come to us in HD should be going out in HD.

Please let me know the exact shows and times…it would help. But I think the problem has been cleared up… on our end.

Thanks

Craig

WBKI-TV
I haven't watched WBKI since Smallville this past Friday. Has there been an improvement?

I haven't watched WBKI since Smallville this past Friday. Has there been an improvement?

I guess we'll find out tonight.

I guess we'll find out tonight.

I guess so. ;)

I was wondering if anyone had watched Saturday or Sunday nights.

Here's my setup then my question. Both antennas are from Radio Shack (primary (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3808570), secondary (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103088)) the amp is a Motorola Signal Booster (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000066E6Y/ref=ox_ya_oh_product). I have the two antenna feeding into a splitter (as a combiner) then to the booster then to my TiVo, TV and FM tuner. I am approx 40-50 miles from the transmitters. Even with > 80% signal I still get some digital "static" for lack of a better term. I've been living with it for quite a while but was wondering if that static is just something I should expect from an OTA setup or if it's the equipment I use?

I have this same situation, two antennas, a 91XG for WBKI on RF 19 and another CM 4228 for the rest of the Louisville stations. A jointenna works perfectly for me. Here's what I got. (http://www.warrenelectronics.com/Antennas/Jointennas.htm) They will custom tune it for you.

I'm in the St. Regis area so I'm about 50 miles from the WBKI transmitter. The antennas are mounted outdoors at about 25'. I needed a preamp for the WBKI antenna as I was right on the edge of a stable signal, and the Jointenna attenuates the signal a little. I used a HDP-269 since I'm in the city and it handles fairly large signals before overloading. Since your outside of Louisiville this probably won't be a problem and you could use other amps like the CM 7777 as mtallent suggested. You'll need separate amps for each antenna as the Jointenna won't pass the power. It will also attenuate neighboring channels somewhat like KET on RF 17. I think I saw about 9db loss. Since I'm so close and am using a CM 4228 this isn't a problem for me, but could be for you. The CM 7777's high gain or a comparable amp could solve this though. A lower noise amp with a larger gain could also take your tuner's amp out of picture a bit further reducing the noise, depending on your current situation.

I tried the splitter as a combiner and it didn't work at all for me due to multipath, but then again I'm in the city, 15 mile from the Knobs.

For all of us out there with this setup, lets hope WBKI get a Louisville HD feed.

I guess so. ;)

I was wondering if anyone had watched Saturday or Sunday nights.

Looks like another swing and a miss ...

Looks like another swing and a miss ...

I forgot to check last night. Are you watching via cable or OTA?

I have this same situation, two antennas, a 91XG for WBKI on RF 19 and another CM 4228 for the rest of the Louisville stations. A jointenna works perfectly for me. Here's what I got. (http://www.warrenelectronics.com/Antennas/Jointennas.htm) They will custom tune it for you.

I'm in the St. Regis area so I'm about 50 miles from the WBKI transmitter. The antennas are mounted outdoors at about 25'. I needed a preamp for the WBKI antenna as I was right on the edge of a stable signal, and the Jointenna attenuates the signal a little. I used a HDP-269 since I'm in the city and it handles fairly large signals before overloading. Since your outside of Louisiville this probably won't be a problem and you could use other amps like the CM 7777 as mtallent suggested. You'll need separate amps for each antenna as the Jointenna won't pass the power. It will also attenuate neighboring channels somewhat like KET on RF 17. I think I saw about 9db loss. Since I'm so close and am using a CM 4228 this isn't a problem for me, but could be for you. The CM 7777's high gain or a comparable amp could solve this though. A lower noise amp with a larger gain could also take your tuner's amp out of picture a bit further reducing the noise, depending on your current situation.

I tried the splitter as a combiner and it didn't work at all for me due to multipath, but then again I'm in the city, 15 mile from the Knobs.
The antenna and amp setup that I have now seems to be giving me good to very good signal strength. I think I will try hunting down a bargain on a JoinTenna. It couldn't be worse than the splitter I am using right now and may just get rid of the blocking.

For all of us out there with this setup, lets hope WBKI get a Louisville HD feed.

Right now I'll settle for HD on their primary transmitter!

The antenna and amp setup that I have now seems to be giving me good to very good signal strength. I think I will try hunting down a bargain on a JoinTenna. It couldn't be worse than the splitter I am using right now and may just get rid of the blocking.



Right now I'll settle for HD on their primary transmitter!

It should be much better. It took me quite a bit of trial and error to get solid signals that don't ever cut out, especially considering the two antenna setup.

You may get away with amplifying the signal after the jointenna with one amp depending on your levels, but would probably get much better results with the amp before the jointenna which would require two. I guess you'll know when you get the jointenna installed.

Just out of curiosity, where is you amp in your setup, in terms of distance to the tivo and distance to the antennas?

It should be much better. It took me quite a bit of trial and error to get solid signals that don't ever cut out, especially considering the two antenna setup.

You may get away with amplifying the signal after the jointenna with one amp depending on your levels, but would probably get much better results with the amp before the jointenna which would require two. I guess you'll know when you get the jointenna installed.

Just out of curiosity, where is you amp in your setup, in terms of distance to the tivo and distance to the antennas?Originally I had the antenna at the end of the cable run. Near the TV. I recently moved it close to the antenna, just after the splitter. Maybe 15' of cable between it and the antennas.

I forgot to check last night. Are you watching via cable or OTA?

OTA from 34.1(ch19) ... I didn't check Tues ...

OTA from 34.1(ch19) ... I didn't check Tues ...
Same here. OTA. I also didn't check last night. Quite frankly, the only thing I watch on CW is Smallville. I'll try to take a peek at it tonight.

You'll need separate amps for each antenna as the Jointenna won't pass the power.

Sorry, I misspoke here. While the jointenna won't pass the power, you'll only need separate amps if you want to amplify both antennas before the jointenna. In that situation you'll need to add the power before the jointenna.

I'm not sure what the signal loss is on the jointenna, and I'm sure Warren Electronics could tell you if you go that route, but it's probably less then the splitter. I believe even when using the splitter as a combiner, you still get a 3db insertion loss. So if your signal is strong enough now you may see a stronger signal with the jointenna and decreased noise from the multipath.

Sorry, I misspoke here. While the jointenna won't pass the power, you'll only need separate amps if you want to amplify both antennas before the jointenna. In that situation you'll need to add the power before the jointenna.

I'm not sure what the signal loss is on the jointenna, and I'm sure Warren Electronics could tell you if you go that route, but it's probably less then the splitter. I believe even when using the splitter as a combiner, you still get a 3db insertion loss. So if your signal is strong enough now you may see a stronger signal with the jointenna and decreased noise from the multipath.
If I recall correctly, i think the Louisville signals (other than WBKI) were around 60% or so (according to the strength meter on the TiVoHD) before I added the amp. The amp boosted the weakest signal up to above 70%.

According to WBKI via their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Louisville-KY/WBKI-CW-Louisville/115797737580?v=feed&story_fbid=302841015876&ref=nf): "All HD problems should be fixed at this time!"

According to WBKI via their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Louisville-KY/WBKI-CW-Louisville/115797737580?v=feed&story_fbid=302841015876&ref=nf): "All HD problems should be fixed at this time!"

No HD again tonight. The signal was broadcast at 1080i (according to my TV) but it had black pillars and was definitely not HD picture.

I wonder if WBKI can even monitor what their transmitter is putting out.

I wonder if WBKI can even monitor what their transmitter is putting out.
If they don't, then they are certifiably incompetent. All it takes is a tv w/a digital tuner and a set of rabbit ears.

If they don't, then they are certifiably incompetent. All it takes is a tv w/a digital tuner and a set of rabbit ears.

You might be surprised. In the early days of DTV, there was a station that wasn't able to monitor their low power DT ... they thought everything was fine when, in fact, they had been transmitting dead air on the DT for a couple of months. Lights on, no one home.

Has anyone noticed the color in a scene get darker then lighter very quickly almost like a flicker? I have noticed this on Lost and Modern family? I have Insight and notice this with the Motorola 6416
I also see the flicker you're talking about on Lost. It's very annoying, and only happens on ABC. I'm glad someone else is seeing this.

Has anyone called WBKI about the HD feed? I called a few days ago and mentioned it. They thought it was repaired but asked to be called back if I saw otherwise. I assume it's still down? Everything I've recorded has been in SD, but the last show was Smallville on Friday and I just watched it and my other recordings last night. Are their primetime shows the only ones natively in HD, and not just scaled because I'm watching it now and its SD and I don't know if that's to be expected?

Has anyone called WBKI about the HD feed? I called a few days ago and mentioned it. They thought it was repaired but asked to be called back if I saw otherwise. I assume it's still down? Everything I've recorded has been in SD, but the last show was Smallville on Friday and I just watched it and my other recordings last night. Are their primetime shows the only ones natively in HD, and not just scaled because I'm watching it now and its SD and I don't know if that's to be expected?

I emailed Craig Hoffman Director of Station Operation for WBKI last week and got a couple of replies. One that said it was supposed to be fixed last week. He emailed me on the 11th and said that it should be fixed early/mid next week. Which hopefully means they'll have it worked out by Wednesday.

Those with providers other than Insight, is the olympic guide laid out in 6 to 12 hour blocks? I wish Insight or whomever provides the guide would make it more granular so if i want to record a hockey game i don't have an extra 3 hours of recording. We all know the puny 160gb drive fills very quickly.

Guide entries are the same on my HTPC as they are on the Insight box. Luckily, I have about 4TB of storage on my HTPC.

The guide is no better on my TiVo nor my TV schedule from OTA. The TV Guide widget on my TV shows the same as well.

So I emailed Craig Hoffman at WBKI about the HD feed on RF 19 as well as the possibility of a local HD feed in Louisville. Here's my question and reply.

"Is there any word on when the HD feed on 34.1 (RF19) will be back online and are there any plans/specific dates as to adding an HD broadcast locally from a Louisville location"

"Right now they are honing in on HD on SAT and Cable. Over-the-air will follow. Just cannot say when it will happen.

Hope this helps—

Thanks

Craig"


So I'm wondering, is the HD feed down on cable and satellite? Does anyone know?

Also in a previous email a few weeks ago with the same question he stated this:

"Thanks for email.

Since new ownership took over—we have a ton of new equipment being installed. Some new equipment headed south in the past week. New parts on the way.

Right now—the over the air signal will likely be the last we convert to HD. I don’t have a timetable. Much of it has to do with space being used in various ways to get and send our signal.

It may be best to try back in 2-3 weeks—hopefully I’ll have a better answer.

Thanks for watching WBKI-TV

Craig

WBKI-TV"

I'm a little confused by this.

Here is Mr. Hoffman's response to my latest inquiry on why there is no HD.

Here is the latest—

We have to move a Microwave Dish--- I am told as the last piece of the puzzle to getting closed captions back. Now—if you watch our signal—Over-The –Air (Not cable or SAT) –you will see captioning. They fixed that part. However it may be 2 more weeks before they are back with new change out parts and move this dish—that will resolve issue.

Hope this helps== the info.


Thanks

Craig

WBKI-TV

When I asked if this would fix the HD situation he said "Lets keep fingers crossed—on that also."

Not sure what one would have to do with the other, I just hope it gets fixed.

LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- WLKY will provide basketball fans two different viewing options during the first-round of the NCAA tournament.

Thursday on the WLKY primary channel (digital channel 32.1, Insight channel 5, Insight HD channel 912):

Time Game
Noon - 12:10 p.m. WLKY Pregame Show
12:10 - 2:30 p.m. (11) Old Dominion / (6) Notre Dame
2:30 - 5:00 p.m. (13) Murray State / (4) Vanderbilt
6:30 - 7:00 p.m. WLKY Road to the Final Four Special
7:00 - 9:30 p.m. (16) East Tennessee State / (1) Kentucky
9:30 p.m. - Midnight (11) San Diego State / (6) Tennessee


Thursday on the WLKY secondary channel (digital channel 32.2, Insight channel 502, Insight HD channel 913):

Time Game
12:10 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. (15) Robert Morris / (2) Villanova
2:30 - 5:00 p.m. (10) St. Mary’s (Cal.) / (7) Richmond
5:00 - 7:00 p.m. (12) UTEP / (5) Butler
7:00 - 9:30 p.m. (14) Ohio / (3) Georgetown
9:30 p.m. - Midnight (9) Wake Forest / (8) Texas

Thanks for posting that David. I assume that both channels will not be in HD?

Friday on the WLKY primary channel (digital channel 32.1, Insight channel 5, Insight HD channel 912):
Time Game
Noon - 12:10 p.m. WLKY Pregame
12:10 - 2:30 p.m. (11) Minnesota / (6) Xavier
2:30 - 5:00 p.m. (13) Siena / (4) Purdue
6:30 - 7:00 p.m. WLKY Road to the Final Four Special
7:00 - 9:30 p.m. (16) Arkansas Pine Bluff/Winthrop / (1) Duke
9:30 p.m. - Midnight (9) Louisville / (8) California


Friday on the WLKY secondary channel (digital channel 32.2, Insight channel 502, Insight HD channel 913):
Time Game
12:10 - 2:30 p.m. (12) Cornell / (5) Temple
2:30 - 5:00 p.m. (14) Oakland / (3) Pittsburgh
5:00 - 7:00 p.m. (12) Utah State / (5) Texas A&M
7:00 - 9:30 p.m. (9) Florida State / Gonzaga
9:30 - 12:00 a.m. (15) UC Santa Barbara / (2) Ohio State

32.2 I don't know if it will be in hd and on insight 913 it says hd. I liked when a few years ago wlky showed 3 channels of ncaa tournament games on insight but now it is only 2 channels

Anyone been trying to watch 32.2? It's been showing the same game as 32.1 since last night (BYU game) . My buddy who has Insight says 502 is showing the second game though. So what's going on with 32.2?

I've not watched it much last night but earlier yesterday they were showing different games. I haven't paid attention today.

Has anyone else noticed that CBS, at times, hasn't had much Def in their HiDef? It typically looks bad right after they switch from one game to another. The graphics and the game look more like 16:9 standard def. But then gradually improves after a several seconds.

I've not watched it much last night but earlier yesterday they were showing different games. I haven't paid attention today.

Yes, I saw multiple games yesterday as well until last night. Have seen the scheduled "second game" on it yet today either.

Yes, I saw multiple games yesterday as well until last night. Have seen the scheduled "second game" on it yet today either.
Since my earlier post I've checked it a couple of times and it was the same game as the main CBS feed.

Has anyone else noticed that CBS, at times, hasn't had much Def in their HiDef? It typically looks bad right after they switch from one game to another. The graphics and the game look more like 16:9 standard def. But then gradually improves after a several seconds.I've defintely noticed this. When they switch games, the text is blurry for a few seconds and then sharpens.

I've defintely noticed this. When they switch games, the text is blurry for a few seconds and then sharpens.

I'm glad it wasn't just me. I looked at it on cable and OTA and it had the same problem. I didn't notice it on any of the other nights. Hopefully this won't keep up. It's very distracting.

Has anyone else noticed that CBS, at times, hasn't had much Def in their HiDef? It typically looks bad right after they switch from one game to another. The graphics and the game look more like 16:9 standard def. But then gradually improves after a several seconds.

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that. The PQ during the 1st 2 rounds of march madness has been sub-par IMO. Sometimes the picture would go completely out of focus in the middle of a game for some unknown reason and then gradually come back to acceptable levels. This is while watching OTA. The text is still not clear as it should be, too much noise. I'm not sure how the signal travels but doesn't it go through the local affiliate WLKY? Wonder if they've been having issues with their feed.

I don't know if they've been having problems or not. I do know that during the 1st round UK game they missed 5+ minutes of the game. WLKY even ran a "Don't blame us, it's not our fault!" crawl during halftime.

By adding the second channel they have lowered the bit rate for the HD channel from about 18 mbps to around 13 mbps not good for high motion 1080i pictures. Seems a waste when most of the time both channels carried the same game, dumb.

I just checked right now WLKY main feed is around 13 mbps a still picture on the second stream is running 3.2 mbps and there are around 2 mbps of null data.

Also their down conversion from the 1080i feed to 704X480 for the SDTV feed had very bad artifacts the ref's stripes and lines on the floor along with the score titling looked really bad. My computer does a much better job than that in real time, I tried it using the stream from my ATSC tuner and it looked much better, pretty sad. And there is always the risk that they will leave the second feed on all the time to eliminate WLKY from having the best HDTV quality for the main networks in Louisville.

Mike T

Also I might add that the HD feed is 720P not 1080i. So we also have a conversion from the 1080i CBS feed to 720P at WLKY.

Mike T

That explains it but wow its horrible. Mike, thanks for the info.

At least the WLKY picture quality is better than WBKI. I just checked and they are still not broadcasting in HD.

does anyone know where to get a channel listing for insight? I tried their site but it just list the regular channels....I want a listing of all channels digital and not digital...not going thru a cable box just straight cable. I would like to know whats on all these sub-channels and crap....It's a cluster fu*% of channels when you scan a digital TV these days!!

Thanks

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:40207#lineup_1838375 will show you the digital channels.

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:40207#lineup_1838375 will show you the digital channels.

thanks for the link

The Xavier/Kansas St picture SUCKS considering it's supposed to be in HD. Unlike Sunday, it's not getting any better.

The Xavier/Kansas St picture SUCKS considering it's supposed to be in HD. Unlike Sunday, it's not getting any better.

Yup. It seems that they are keeping one feed in HD and one in SD. Whenever they switch to the SD feed on the HD channel, they just upconvert it instead of actually broadcasting the HD feed. It looks like this is being done by the main CBS feeds and not WLKY.

What's with the duplicate sub-channels on Insight's (non-stb) signal. They are really confusing my Mag H2160mw9 DVR... 11.1 WHAS also
11.1 ION and others. My DVR programs keep tuning to ION instead of WHAS. I have to set 112.3, which is SD, for my preset program channel. This is very annoying.

What's with the duplicate sub-channels on Insight's (non-stb) signal. They are really confusing my Mag H2160mw9 DVR... 11.1 WHAS also
11.1 ION and others. My DVR programs keep tuning to ION instead of WHAS. I have to set 112.3, which is SD, for my preset program channel. This is very annoying.

The problem is that WHASDT is being broadcast on physical channel 71 but it includes TVCT data to map it to channel 11.1. They are also broadcasting channels on physical channel 11 but do not include TVCT data for those so the TV automatically maps it to 11.x as well.

whats this "need a digital adapter" about on the golf channel and oxygen?

whats this "need a digital adapter" about on the golf channel and oxygen?

Those channels are no longer available on analog and they are not broadcast in clear (unencrypted) QAM so you need a box from Insight to get them.

Those channels are no longer available on analog and they are not broadcast in clear (unencrypted) QAM so you need a box from Insight to get them.

is this a motorola cable box or special decoder of some sort?

is this a motorola cable box or special decoder of some sort?

Any box from them should work (DVR or non DVR). I don't know if they are still using the Moto 2xxx series for non DVR still or if they changed. They may be giving out the Pace DTAs now in Louisville, I'm not sure if they are yet but that would also work. If you have a Tivo that takes a CableCard, that will also be able to receive any encrypted channel to which you subscribe.

I read on another message board that insight is going all digital in June and will offer a digital adapter for free to those with analog TVs

I read on another message board that insight is going all digital in June and will offer a digital adapter for free to those with analog TVs

Anyone with just a TV, digital or analog, will need the tuning adapter. This would not be the case if they made the basic/classic lineup available in clear (unencrypted) QAM. So far, only the basic lineup is in clear QAM.

When Insight requires a box for every TV, I think they will see a mass exodus of subscribers to satellite unless they allow QAM capable TVs to tune the classic lineup unencrypted.

I just called insight and I am getting 2 free digital adapters on Monday and it is free for 2 years and also free installation. I asked about a 3rd one and it is $1.50 a month.

Insight didn't show up they were supposed to be here yesterday from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm

I just called insight and I am getting 2 free digital adapters on Monday and it is free for 2 years and also free installation. I asked about a 3rd one and it is $1.50 a month.

this digital adapter thing is retarded...I'll be glad when some other options like verizon fios or u-verse become available...I can't wait to drop insight. They ran a new line for me last year and it is still not below ground yet...WTF!!

I found out that insight is scrambling random channels to get people to install these adapters. Everybody that has cable will need one of these adapter's to receive cable on any TV that does not have a cable box. Pretty soon all the channels will be scrambled unless you have this. Insight is doing this to cut down on cable theft. The first two Adapter are free and then there will be a small fee for any additional ones.

Their reason for requiring the adapters are irrelevant IMO. It's all about customer perception and the customer perception is that if a box is required to receive any channels then satellite is a better deal. The only real plus that cable had over satellite is that a box was not required for each TV. Take away that plus and cable doesn't really have much going for it, especially in the Louisville market where the HD offerings are pretty pathetic. Despite what they claim, "HD Action PPV" and "HD Drama PPV" do not equal two HD channels.

Anyone with just a TV, digital or analog, will need the tuning adapter. This would not be the case if they made the basic/classic lineup available in clear (unencrypted) QAM. So far, only the basic lineup is in clear QAM.

When Insight requires a box for every TV, I think they will see a mass exodus of subscribers to satellite unless they allow QAM capable TVs to tune the classic lineup unencrypted.

Can you expand on this "tuning adapter" that Insight may require all users to have? This is the first I've heard of this. I have just one digital box (HD/DVR) I use on my main set; 2 of my other sets already have digital tuners. I've noticed more and more channels being dropped from the classic tier (such as the Golf Channel) recently, which Insight says is necessary to create more bandwidth to make room for more HD channels coming soon. I really don't like the idea of having to add boxes to all of my sets, but satellite is out of the question in my community (dishes are not allowed).

Can you expand on this "tuning adapter" that Insight may require all users to have? This is the first I've heard of this. I have just one digital box (HD/DVR) I use on my main set; 2 of my other sets already have digital tuners. I've noticed more and more channels being dropped from the classic tier (such as the Golf Channel) recently, which Insight says is necessary to create more bandwidth to make room for more HD channels coming soon. I really don't like the idea of having to add boxes to all of my sets, but satellite is out of the question in my community (dishes are not allowed).

They are basically cable boxes (no OnDemand/PPV) with RF output. Insight will give you the first two free and additionals are $1.50 each from what I've been told.

satellite is out of the question in my community (dishes are not allowed)

FYI, your community cannot outlaw dishes. Here is the info in case you want to read up on it. They can outlaw where/how they are installed (such as mounting a dish into their property, like the roof of a complex), but they can't outlaw the physical presence of a dish.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

FYI, your community cannot outlaw dishes. Here is the info in case you want to read up on it. They can outlaw where/how they are installed (such as mounting a dish into their property, like the roof of a complex), but they can't outlaw the physical presence of a dish.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

You're right and I should have explained further that we can not have dishes placed on our roofs. I could possibly have one installed on my enclosed patio, but I'm not sure how that would work out.

Vladd, thanks for the info on the "boxes". I'm wondering if this means when Insight goes all "digital" some of the disappearing channels from the Classic tier such as the Golf Channel will be back. Also, do you or does anyone else know the size of these "boxes"?

Fox 41 news going to be in hd tomorrow night

WBKI had some serious issues tonight with "Smallville". The first 30 minutes was plagued by constant crackling on the audio, and when that was fixed, the video defaulted to a blank green screen (but the audio was fine!)

I received this email from Craig Hoffman on April 12

Hi there—

We are HD on DISH, DirectTV, and cable. Over the-air- with an antenna is posing some challenges—due to the way we have to transfer our signal. There have been slips from time to time –due to upgraded equipment. We are set to do a major power switch in next 3-4 weeks—so I suspect there will be a bump here and there.

Are you using antenna—or some other source??

Thanks

Craig
WBKI-TV



I am getting really sick of WBKI. It's not bad enough that their OTA signal is not in HD but now their audio is s**t. They had the same problem the other night when I switched over to check their signal. Crappy audio and crappy video. The good thing is that Smallville is the only show I watch on their network. I think I'll just pay the extra scratch and download them from Amazon. I hope they have it straightened out by the beginning of the next season.

I just sent Mr. Hoffman an email letting him know that I won't be watching his station any more.

got notice that this is available for me now. From what I've heard the signal may not be as good as cable. I guess I thought it would be on the fiber optic lines but I think it's run thru phone lines which is limited I think. I much as Insight sucks I'm not sure if this is a better option. Anybody else know the details on their signal?

I haven't been able to see UVerse in action yet (still not available for anyone I know) but there are a couple of things to consider.


You can only record 2 HD streams at a time (unless you happen to have the upgraded 3 HD option). This may or may not affect your viewing habits.
Channels are streamed in MPEG 4 which is a more efficient codec than MPEG 2 so it requires less bandwith. The downside is that it means they are decompressing the original stream and then recompressing it with MPEG 4. Depending on their technique and bitrate used, picture quality can suffer significantly.


I've seen reports of quality being both better and worse than cable but no comparisons with Insight in particular. Insight's HD quality if on the higher end of the cable spectrum though from samples that I've seen from other providers.

Fox 41 news going to be in hd tomorrow night

Looks great! I think they have surpassed WAVE for graphics and remote cameras.

And remember WDRB was the first to provide Thunder coverage in HD with True Dolby 5.1 surround sound. Their coverage really lit up the back channels with the fireworks. I have it recorded and still play it back today to show Thunder.

I am getting really sick of WBKI..

Me too. I thought I'd check this forum to see if the audio issue was just me. I'm really confused about the issues they are having with HD. It's as if they are working out an HD feed for the first time and haven't been broadacasting in HD for the past year.

You can add me to the list of those not watching WBKI. We've been deleting the shows and going to the web.

Does anyone know when WHAS and WLKY will start having news in true hd like WAVE and WDRB? I think it was business first that was contacting whas and wlky about hd news. They said wlky was in the process of going hd but didn't get a response from whas.

At least WHAS now has a news ticker/scroll at the bottom of the screen that can handle the HD broadcast... Beats going to a washy SD picture. WDRB looks great though.

Or is it just up converted SD? The ownership of WHAS is not a well run organization.

Louisville only has 2 news stations in hd but Lexington has all 4 of their stations in hd. Louisville is way behind in technology.

Looks like this station will be on the air soon...

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Attachment/getattachment.jsp?appn=101359939&qnum=5000&copynum=1&exhcnum=1

Looks like this station will be on the air soon...

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Attachment/getattachment.jsp?appn=101359939&qnum=5000&copynum=1&exhcnum=1Is this just going to be a digital SD feed on 28, because is so I'm not sure I care? WBKI seem to be very interested in providing everyone with SD feeds, even on their HD station.

WBKI really messed up tonight. Season finale of Smallville, and the first 10-12 minutes looked like a Bizarro-world transmission, along with audio drops and freezes:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2672/smallvile1.jpg

I switched to the analogue feed, and it was a blank blue screen.

Didn't see that OTA here. Too bad that aren't showing HD OTA currently, I just keep recording to check, then get a HD copy an hour later.

Is this just going to be a digital SD feed on 28, because is so I'm not sure I care? WBKI seem to be very interested in providing everyone with SD feeds, even on their HD station.

In theory, one HD encoder could feed all of WBKI's transmitter outlets (see KET's network.) But, since they apparently haven't fixed their main feed on Ch19, who knows???? I haven't even bothered to check lately ... too many other crises to deal with.

I was wondering if it is possible to receive Lexington stations in the southern Jefferson County area. I was looking at an antenna http://www.meijer.com/s/winegard-hd-7084p-outdoor-hdtv-antenna/_/R-126838

I like watching other stations newscasts and weather sometimes. Any opinions are welcomed.

Anyone know if the HD feed for WBKI is back up? I unhooked my feed for some testing of the preamp I use on that antenna and plan to leave it that way unless I have reason to hook it back up.

Anyone know if the HD feed for WBKI is back up?

Based on a 3 minute sampling of "VampDi" on 6/3/2010, I would have to report that the HD feed is still dead, I repeat ... still dead via 34(Ch19).1

With much effort I am now able to pull in WBKI over the air in Winchester (with antenna in the attic amazingly), however all that effort appears wasted because WBKI is not broadcasting HD!

WKYT in Lexington setup a monopoly with Insight to exclusively offer the HD feed of CW programming over cable only (and Insight is not available in Winchester, we have Time Warner), so WBKI was my only legal alternative (the other being online sources) to see CW in HD. WKYT, for a brief period tested simulcasting HD of CBS and CW programming on the same frequency, but too many viewers complained about the quality of CBS sports, so we lost our CW in HD. WKYT uses the .2 channel for the SD version of CW programming.

Anyone know if\when WBKI will get the HD working over the air again? I hope my efforts were not in vain.

I'm thinking about switching providers for TV. Does anyone have an opinion about the quality of Dish Network's HD? They have the $24.99/month with free HD deal going on, and that sounds a lot better then $78.99/month with Insight. I do think Insight has a good HD picture, and I don't want to go to a lower quality. Any opinions are welcome.

I have heard it said that UVerse is dead last in HD quality, and they aren't any cheaper then Insight.

Based on a 3 minute sampling of "VampDi" on 6/3/2010, I would have to report that the HD feed is still dead, I repeat ... still dead via 34(Ch19).1


WBKI is a joke. I wish WMYO would've gotten the CW instead. Their HD looks great.

I'm thinking about switching providers for TV. Does anyone have an opinion about the quality of Dish Network's HD? They have the $24.99/month with free HD deal going on, and that sounds a lot better then $78.99/month with Insight. I do think Insight has a good HD picture, and I don't want to go to a lower quality. Any opinions are welcome.

I have heard it said that UVerse is dead last in HD quality, and they aren't any cheaper then Insight.

I'm wondering the same, especially since they announced the decision to go all digital and require a box for every TV plus a price increase. I'm paying $60/mo now for just basic and classic.

I'm wondering the same, especially since they announced the decision to go all digital and require a box for every TV plus a price increase. I'm paying $60/mo now for just basic and classic.


Yeah, Insight advertises free HD, but leaves out the $15.95/month for the rental on the HD box.

Anybody receiving any of channel 21's channels? I have Insight but bought an antenna as I want to see RTV (channel 21-4) but after setting the auto program on my tv I can receive every channel except any on 21-1 through 21-6. Even channels 9 and 16 come in fine but no channel 21. Maybe they don't have a strong signal. I live in New Albany across the river from Louisville and was just wondering if anybody else had issues with receiving channel 21.

WBNA channel 21 is currently over the air on digital channel 8. VHF channels are hard to get. Do you get WHAS 11? Channel 9 is actually digital 24.2. RTV is really cool though.

I can receive every channel with the antenna except for 32.1 and any of channels 21.1 through 21.6. Channel 28 is fuzzy but I only wanted to receive RTV as I don't watch any of the others (even on cable) as there is nothing on broadcast I'm interested in.

Does anyone know if wlky or whas will have the news in hd sometime this fall?

Has anyone been able to get WKYT-DT's new 36 channel? I see the coverage maps just reaches into Jefferson County some.

The new season of Smallville starts in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know if WBKI has even bothered to fix their HD via OTA? Or should I just buy a season pass from Amazon or wait for the Blu-ray release?

I checked the WBKI last night. 90210 was not in HD. So it seems that they haven't bothered to, or can't fix it. I'll be glad when Smallville has finished its run. That way I can dump WBKI from my life.

Found out how to remove DVR display graphic when watching slo mo or still frame on 6416 DVR from Insight. Just hit "Exit" button on remote after starting slo mo or still frame playback. Before I figured it out the graphic would always intrude on what I was trying to see. I didn't realize I could love my DVR more than I already did (save for wanting more recording space).

Scotty

p.s. Sorry if wrong thread but thought fellow Lou-a-vul people might benefit.

Has anyone compared Picture Quality between Insight HD (906, 908, 910 or 912) and the corresponding locally broadcast channel off an antenna ? What"s your verdict, is one better than the other ? I would be interested in even small differences that you detect. Thanks

Scotty

Has anyone compared Picture Quality between Insight HD (906, 908, 910 or 912) and the corresponding locally broadcast channel off an antenna ? What"s your verdict, is one better than the other ? I would be interested in even small differences that you detect. Thanks

Scotty

I compared the bitrates:

Looks like it's time to get rid of my digital cable.

Channel|OTA|Insight
WAVE 3|12.0|12.0
WHAS 11|18.0|16.2
WLKY 32|18.0|14.7
WDRB 41|15.5|10.0
WMYO 58|18.5|16.5

As you can see, the only channel that they are not recompressing is WAVE 3 who already compresses their signal.

Note that these are the video bitrates only and they are variable. I did not include the audio and reported an average rate.

any opinions on AT & T U-VERSE yet. Does it come in over a phone line or coaxial?

Phone line. I've seen reports that it's better than cable and reports that it's worse than cable. I haven't seen any comparisons to Insight though. I personally haven't tried it for a couple of reasons:


Not available to me.
The 2 HD stream limit (or 3 when they upgrade) does not fit my viewing/recording habits.

I compared the bitrates:

Thanks vladd,

Scotty

Any word on the HD WBKI feed on 34.1? I've disconnected the antenna temporarily to use the amplifier elsewhere. Is this just a lost cause?

Any word on the HD WBKI feed on 34.1? I've disconnected the antenna temporarily to use the amplifier elsewhere. Is this just a lost cause?

As of 10/21/2010/Primetime ... I can confirm that there is still no HD ...

Lost Cause??? After nearly a year (or longer,) I would say so ...

The Louisville vs Syracuse football game is in hd on channel 914 on insight. Does anyone know if it's in hd on antenna?

WMYO has added a new sub-channel 58.2. It just says WMYO-SD and it's just showing their logo for now.

What's up with Insight possibly dropping WAVE 3?

What's up with Insight possibly dropping WAVE 3?

http://www.wave3.com/story/13659843/important-notice-for-insight-subscribers

Basically, Wave 3 (specifically, Raycom Media) wants more money to allow Insight to air their broadcasts. Insight doesn't want to give them more.

http://www.wave3.com/story/13659843/important-notice-for-insight-subscribers

Basically, Wave 3 (specifically, Raycom Media) wants more money to allow Insight to air their broadcasts. Insight doesn't want to give them more.

Gotta side with Insight on this one. Why should they pay to air a free station?

Gotta side with Insight on this one. Why should they pay to air a free station?
It's now law thanks to the digital transition.

Personally, I don't think that Raycom is arguing from a strong position though. NBC is 4th among the big 4 networks in the Nielson national ratings and Wave 3 has lost their biggest local talents over the last couple of years: John Belski, Bob Domini and Jackie Hays.

Edit:

It looks like it's several Raycom stations and not just WAVE3. It's been reported that Evansville's WXIX (NBC) and Cincinnati's WXIX (Fox) are also in negiations, both also owned by Raycom Media.

Insight did a follow up call after they left here. They said at the end of the call that it is going all digital in April. Is that when we get the 100 hd channels?

Anyone know if the HD Motorola DVR boxes can have the HDMI output turned off? The reason I ask is because I was at my mother-in-law's house today hooking up her new TV. I hooked it up through HDMI and the TV is saying there is no signal on that input. Right now she has it outputting to the TV through coax, which is working, but obviously far from ideal. I have used that cable before so I'm ruling the cable out at this point. I was hoping to save her the hassle of having a service call.

It can't be turned off but it might be outputting a signal that is incompatible with the TV. It can output 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i if memory serves me correctly.

Try unplugging the HDMI cable, wait a couple of seconds and then plug it back in. This should be done with both the box and the TV on.

If that doesn't work (while the HDMI cable is plugged in):

Access the output menu, power off the box and then press "Menu" on the remote. The box's display should then change and say something like 1080i. Navigate left/right on the remote to change the output and try 720P. If that has no effect, navigate down once with the remote and make sure that shows "HDMI" and not "DVI" (right/left to change).

I'm doing this from memory but it should be correct.

It can't be turned off but it might be outputting a signal that is incompatible with the TV. It can output 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i if memory serves me correctly.

Try unplugging the HDMI cable, wait a couple of seconds and then plug it back in. This should be done with both the box and the TV on.

If that doesn't work (while the HDMI cable is plugged in):

Access the output menu, power off the box and then press "Menu" on the remote. The box's display should then change and say something like 1080i. Navigate left/right on the remote to change the output and try 720P. If that has no effect, navigate down once with the remote and make sure that shows "HDMI" and not "DVI" (right/left to change).

I'm doing this from memory but it should be correct.

Thanks for the help. She had Insight out before I had a chance to get over and troubleshoot with your suggestions. They replaced the box. Apparently there was an issue with it.

Channel 41.2 is now antenna TV. It shows old shows form the 60's 70's and 80's.

Do I need to rescan hdtv to get it on cable or is it antenna only? Where is 58.2 at or is this it?

Anyone know if Insight has any plans to switch to SDV (switched digital video)?

Three TiVoHDs here, and thinking SDV would suck for me...

I have a question for anyone in the Hardin County area with Comcast HD and multiple cable cards.

What does Comcast charge you for each extra card? I know they can't charge for the first card, but I was wanting to know what they hit you for each additional card.

I think they can charge for the first cableCARD. Insight here in Louisville charges me $2 per card. I have one M-card in each of my TiVoHD boxes. Insight doesn't charge differently for M- and S-cards, which was great when I switched from two S-cards to one M-card in each box :-)

Raiden, from what I understand the FCC says the cable company cannot charge for the first outlet. Which would include cable box or cable card. If you have a cable box they aren't supposed to charge you for a basic box. If you don't have any boxes and only cards they shouldn't be charging you for the first card.

WLKY HD having problems with the UK-Tenn basketball game on insight. Both 32.1 and channel 912 picture gets bright on shots and blocky picture at other times

WLKY HD having problems with the UK-Tenn basketball game on insight. Both 32.1 and channel 912 picture gets bright on shots and blocky picture at other times

I watched most of the game off my antenna just west of E-Town and the video looked OK, but the lip sync was way off for the whole broadcast.

Mike T

It must have been an Insight thing. I didn't notice any problems on my OTA signal south of E-town. I didn't notice any lip sync issues. Mostly because I skipped all that junk and watched the game. :)

Is there anyway we can get tru tv in hd on insight here in Louisville for the ncaa tournament? Channel 930 doesn't show much programming and it's on 995 in Lexington

We have tru tv on insight channel 995 it came on today

Just thought I might mention on here to y'all that yesterday on my way home from work ( I work in Lake Charles, La.) that I saw the remote/uplink truck for WLKY at the Texas Travel Center in Orange, Texas, undoubtedly on the way to Houston to cover the final 4. It was kinda neat to see it so far from its home...

FYI, the new HD stations have gone live on Insight Cable.

I have a Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1255 (Model 22xxx, Hybrid ATSC/QAM) Windows 7 tuner... I am starting to lose channels with the Insight conversion. I still do retain 13 HD/Digital channels.

Several calls to Insight left them and me clueless. Channel 22 is their instructional digital conversion channel... says if you can tune 11.1 on your (TV) tuner, you can go boxless and 'enjoy' all the available digital channels Well, I can, but I only see 13 of the 130-something channels...

Plus, updating the MediaCenter TV guide for Insight Analog and Digital only shows the old analog program guide.

Does anyone know if I will lose all connectivity through my tuner card? 2 of Insight tech calls say I need a converter box. Not, won't do this on a tuner card and Mediacenter software... may as well uninstall it if I have to use a box and their remote.

Does anyone know if WLKY-26 the home of Thunder this year and is it going to be in HD?

This is from wlky's facebook page Thunder will be in HD on TV; it will be in SD on WLKY.com.

Found the solution: follow these instructions
It is on hdtunerinfo.com, under the 7th tab on the left menu.

It shows how to find the 'unlisted' new digital QAM channels on Insight (Louisville), edit, delete, rename and tag.

Finally... thought I would have to buy a new tuner.:)

anybody else wish they could break their addiction with insight? All these stupid channels are making my head spin...57-2...62-8...wtf? Why can't channels just be like they were. When is this multi-room dvr coming? I need a DVR that can record OTA and I might consider cutting the cord. I watch alot of netflix and I'm pretty happy with their service. I have not heard much feedback about AT&T u-verse. Got a notice in the mail from insight that much "special" 12 month rate is up but my rate will only increase by $22/month..."only $22"...bs

anybody else wish they could break their addiction with insight? All these stupid channels are making my head spin...57-2...62-8...wtf? Why can't channels just be like they were. When is this multi-room dvr coming? I need a DVR that can record OTA and I might consider cutting the cord. I watch alot of netflix and I'm pretty happy with their service. I have not heard much feedback about AT&T u-verse. Got a notice in the mail from insight that much "special" 12 month rate is up but my rate will only increase by $22/month..."only $22"...bsGet a minitop pc and use Media Center. With a tuner card you can get OTA with guide data in Media Center plus there is a built in Netflix app. Fully functional DVR.

WBNA Ion 21 is now in hd on insight 75.4 on a boxless hdtv. It should be on channel 916 soon

All these stupid channels are making my head spin...57-2...62-8...wtf?
This has nothing to do with Insight specifically. Welcome to the digital transition. Even OTA channels have the same numbering scheme.

Ion HD is on insight channel 916 it came on today

Can anyone confirm that KET HD has been encrypted through Insight?

I watched ket hd on 15.3 yesterday

So with the switch to Time Warner should we expect to get Howard Stern ondemand finally?

The Doctors is supposed to be in hd but it had bars on all 4 sides at 10 am today on WHAS 11.1.