hmmm....definitely sounding interesting.

I'm torn about going ahead and going for the Insight deal (despite the trouble I had getting it installed a couple of months ago). But, with DirecTV coming with more stuff on July 1...will probably wait and compare the two.

Good to see Insight is moving ahead!!

Kudos to them for that.

Two reasons to go with Insight IMO, and they're both pretty significant:

1) No compression discernable yet for audio OR video
2) No $600 STB outlay, you rent it for $2 per month

Because of the low cost of entry, I can't imagine a reason not to go with Insight at the moment.

Two reasons to go with Insight IMO, and they're both pretty significant:

1) No compression discernible yet for audio OR video
2) No $600 STB outlay, you rent it for $2 per month

Excellent points HTCrazy! I'll add two more.

3)HDNET
4)HDNET MOVIES

I watched Barry Lyndon on HD*Movies and was blown away. What a work of art. Kubrick supposedly took Gainesborough classic art works and setup shots to imitate the style and look. It works! The movie in HD is like walking through an art gallery. Then on the same channel I watch Bob, Carol, Ted and Alice. What a journey into the 60's. Encounter groups, free love, what a trip. I am really "digging" the eclectic mix on HDNET Movies. I watched a very interesting concert on HDNET reminded me of the artists they feature on WFPK Public Radio in Louisville and World Cafe with David Dye. Very cool. BTW, now I understand all the posts from D* subscribers about the PQ of HDNET. It is Truly WOW-TV!!!!!!

If you are waiting until later to get Insight HD you are losing out on what you bought your HDTV to be able to enjoy. Especially right now when this is virtually FREE! ($2 STB + $7.95 digital gateway = $9.95)

So far I'm enjoying Discovery a bit more than HDnet, but they're both great to have.

I watched the praying mantis thing last night and got sick to my stomach!!! It's on at 5 today again if you guys missed it. The detail was incredible though..

I wish both Discovery and HDnet would stick with video based programming only though. I think the filmed sitcoms HDnet has would fit fine on HDNet Movies.

I'm with you on HDNet - what great content! With HDnet, Discovery, HBO, SHO, ESPN, and the Networks all in hidef, its enough to swear off standard def altogether. Talk about quality over quantity!

SAD news on HDNET :confused: . Both channels have become unwatchable for me on Insight the past two days due to pixelization and at times total video dropout. What causes this? I read MCUBAN post on another thread that Insight passes HDNET without any compression at appropriate bandwidth. Is he mistaken or is there another problem? Has anyone called Insight to inform them?

Fortunately I haven't lost out on a program I needed to see the past couple of days. I do hope they get this cleared up asap!

PCS, I haven't had the pixelation problems that you've had, but both HDnet channels were blacked out during the later part of last night. I'm thinking it is a satellite reception problem on their end. It also sometimes happens to HBO and SHO, but rarely. If it's still off when I get home, I'll be calling them.

On a side note, did anyone catch the ballet in HD on KET4 last night? The PQ was the best I've seen so far on KET. (I've only had it since January) It still doesn't compare to Discovery and HDnet, but it was still very watchable. It's too bad I can't stand watching ballet though!

Originally posted by stovetop
On a side note, did anyone catch the ballet in HD on KET4 last night? The PQ was the best I've seen so far on KET. (I've only had it since January) It still doesn't compare to Discovery and HDnet, but it was still very watchable. It's too bad I can't stand watching ballet though!

Yep watched a bit for comparison to last week, looked a bit better than "Over Alaska" last week, but not all that much better than the WS/SD Clint Eastwood documentary than preceded. Lots of dark areas + lack of fine details makes MPEG-2 a happy algorithm. :D

HDC

PS: Can't stand ballet either ... not that there's anything wrong with it ;)

The Widescreen SD is fed through the same system so its not a cut and dry comparison. PBS upconverts the SD widescreen to 1080i for the HD service. So the look won't change much between the Widescreen SD and HD on KET4.

Originally posted by William Smith
The Widescreen SD is fed through the same system so its not a cut and dry comparison. PBS upconverts the SD widescreen to 1080i for the HD service. So the look won't change much between the Widescreen SD and HD on KET4.

Yep ... I realize that ...

BTW, thanks for making the KET4 logo disappear, when it gets moved down there in the corner it really shows off the uncorrectable convergence issues on my RPTV :)

HDC

HDC,

What is your RPTV model? I have a Hitachi 53UWX10B and did a manual convergence on my set. I also had pretty bad convergence in the corners.

Originally posted by stovetop
What is your RPTV model? I have a Hitachi 53UWX10B and did a manual convergence on my set. I also had pretty bad convergence in the corners.

Tosh H82 ... The only place its really bad is the lower right corner due to the red gun wanting to "do the wave." Actually it could probably be made better but I don't want to mess with the yoke magnets.

HDC

Is anyone else getting pixelization on the HDNETs? It was better last night with occasional pixels and no total dropouts, but still not 100% solid like the other channels.

I got the Insight letter yesterday that the HD tier will begin July 17th for $10/month. :( Oh well I figured the free HD would not last forever. I will expect them to get the pixelization to stop or I will drop this package! Let me know if you are having the same problem or if it is unique to me. Perhaps I need a signal boost.

pcs, I have not had much time to checkout HDnet but the times I've watched it, I've seen no problem. I would let Insight know about it, could be your STB as well. BTW, when you get the pixelization you might try flipping to some other HD channels and see if they are acting up as well.

PCS, i did notice it this morning, but I'm thinking more than anything that it's Insight satellite reception for HDnet... I would say it would be the cable getting cold or something, but it's only happening with HDnet.

I also got the flyer in the mail, I'll probably call them next week to add it to my package.. most likely will drop showtime. I'll also let them know about HDnet, they have been pretty good about fixing things with me... ^_^

Hey folks ... is WAVE-DT on the air 24/7 or are they doing the late afternoon sign-on thing? I'm considering moving my antenna up to the roof so I can pull them in more consistantly ... just need to know when I can expect a signal.

HDC

WLKY and WAVE only broadcast from around 12 noon to 12 midnight. Although, I think they more oftenly come on later, like around 2-3.

Originally posted by stovetop
WLKY and WAVE only broadcast from around 12 noon to 12 midnight. Although, I think they more oftenly come on later, like around 2-3.

Thanks ... that's what I figured ... I was watching Leno one night and noticed the signal faded suddenly around midnight ... They must have reduced the power.

HDC

Well, they leave it on for both of the late shows (jay and dave), right after they are over, they shut it off completely.

Thanks for your feedback guys. Yes it is mainly HDNET and/or HDNETmovies On rare occasions I get the same symptoms (pixels) on other channels especially discoveryHD. I'll call Insight.

Don't know if its been posted but I received a letter last week from Insight Cable.

Jist of it is - "enjoy the free preview of hdnet, hdnet-movies, discovery-HD and espn-HD because from now on it will cost you $10 a month"

No mention of the local HD channels.

Darn, I can't have my cable bill reach astronomical proportions.:(

I won't be going for the $10 package. As you say I hope this doesn't include the network HD channels. There's very little on HDNet etc that I'm interested in. It's nice to look at but the subject matter doesn't do much for me. Besides our Insight bill is already over $100 a month (this does include BB and most movie channels)

I guess all of you know that FOX Network is going to start broadcasting HDTV late 2003 or 2004. I wonder if WDRB will now make the upgrade to transmit the network feed. They told me they were waiting until their network moved beyond the hi-rez widescreen cr*p. I suppose this also means Insight will carry it if it is HD. Any inside info?

Looks like its time for me to eat crow! My complaints about HDNET via Insight cable getting lots of pixelization and becoming unwatchable were caused by bad wiring in my house. The Insight Techs came out and found 2 cheap splitters in my cable that I didn't know were there. The previous owner of my house must have done this. They were out of sight and I had no way of knowing they were present. SO if you are having any trouble with signal strength and pixelization this is something to look for.

Now HDNET and HDNET movies look SUPER!!!

Originally posted by PCS
They were out of sight and I had no way of knowing they were present. SO if you are having any trouble with signal strength and pixelization this is something to look for.

Hehe .... Yep I found a the same thing hidden in my attic when I was running my satellite lines. One of the outputs on the splitter wasn't even being used ... fortunately I've never sub'ed to cable at this house :)

HDC

Did anyone else experience frequent lock-ups on ESPN-HD during the Yankees - Mets game Sunday night?

ESPN-HD seems to have corrected its overscan problem with the scores running at the bottom. It looks AOK now!

I'm noticing that the Jay Leno Show doens't look too hot anymore compared to HDnet and Discovery. Is WAVE still running at a lower bandwidth? Do you think they're doing what DirectTV is doing and reducing the picture to 1280x1088?

stovetop, Leno shows as 1920x1080i BUT the bitstream is 15.19mb which is 4mb less than WLKY or WHAS. That is why WAVE's HD looks considerable softer than full 19mb HD.

Looks like everyone is too busy enjoying all the great HDTV here in Louisville to waste too much time talking about it. Now that I'm back from vacation I've got a question.

Anyone hear if we will be getting Bravo-HD on Insight cable? I sure hope so. It is supposed to launch July 31. Wonder if we will get any promo or if it will just show up? I guess Insight viewers will start paying $10/month for HD after 7/17. I hope they keep adding channels to the HD lineup without any rate hikes. I think $10 for 4 channels is a bit steep. With Bravo-HD that at least gets it down to $2/HD channel. Any insider info?

Well I hope if Insight does start to add more HD channels, which are already a part of their cable line-up, they will be free. I'm not sure how I feel about Bravo HD. The few shows I would watch like Columbo, Larry Sanders, Inside the Actors Studio were not filmed in HD (as far as I know anyway) so wouldn't benefit much really, just a better picture than the analog signal we get at present. Even in HD I don't think I could sit through a movie that has commercials through it.

I think that's the problem with most current TV channels, they don't yet have enough HD material to warrant going to HD. The networks can afford to shoot the new shows in HD so they have a good proportion of such material to lure viewers. But a lot of channels rely on older material which obviously is not HD. I really can't see any reason why the news channels (CNN,FOX News etc) haven't gone HD yet though.

Originally posted by gnj1958
The few shows I would watch like Columbo, Larry Sanders, Inside the Actors Studio were not filmed in HD (as far as I know anyway) so wouldn't benefit much really, just a better picture than the analog signal we get at present. Even in HD I don't think I could sit through a movie that has commercials through it.

If they were shot on film, the could be transferred in high definition. HDNet shows Hogan's Heroes in HD and it looks pretty darn good.

Here's the news release. Bravo looks pretty interesting to me. It will not merely be a rebroadcast of the analog channel. The emphasis will be upscale viewers.

NBC takes 'Wing' to high-def net

NBC Cable Networks announced Thursday some of the programming it intends to feature on Bravo HD+, its first network dedicated to high-definition programming. Bravo HD+ is set to launch July 31 with a combination of newly acquired content and shows that originally aired on Bravo and NBC, including the first HD telecasts of "The West Wing." Classical and other music will also feature prominently on the channel, as will such sports as the Olympics and 2003 Triple Crown horse races. "Bravo HD's premier lineup offers our affiliates high-quality, diversified programming to attract new subscribers to their digital tiers," NBC Cable Networks president David Zaslav said. NBC officials said they are in the process of arranging carriage and have not announced any deals. They stressed that Bravo HD+ will not simply be a simulcast of the Bravo cable channel. Also getting their first HD telecasts on the channel will be Cirque du Soleil's "Varekai" and the "Music in High Places" series, which features such recording artists as Ryan Adams and India Arie performing at ancient sites on earth. "We want to provide viewers with a compelling HD experience, and Bravo HD+ does just that, delivering truly unique and dynamic programming," Bravo president Jeff Gaspin said. (Jesse Hiestand)

Here's the link if you want to subscribe and get the full story:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/television/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1932424

I think this sounds cool & hope Insight adds it at no extra charge! Are you listening Gregg Graff?

For some reason the movies on HDnet and possible HDnet movies are severely stuttering. Not like a lost of signal but it looks like they're running at 15 frames/sec.

Anybody seeing this on Insight HD?

spidey, I've seen the stuttering on HDnet Movies now a couple of times. HDnet has looked ok to me. There were some other complaints in "HDTV Programming" so it must be a HDnet problem.

I receive these via the HD package from DirecTV and have not seen the stuttering problem.

Seems like Insight is not getting a great response on their $10.00 HD Pak. They have extended the free preview until July 24, and are now offering a free limited edition ESPN/HD basketball. I really enjoy the channels, but feel they need to provide a larger than 4 channel package to justify the additional $10.00. HBOHD, ShowtimeHD, HD Pak, before you know it you are spending 30 bucks a month for 6 channels. I'm tempted to go back to OTA and spend the 30 bucks a month on DVD's.

Just watched Arizona on HDNET - I'm hopelessly hooked - Insight, please be gentle.

Sonyman,

I've completely given up on anything non-hd. I signed up for the HD pack, but dropped by classic cable and digital packages. Now i just have the HD package and HBO. =) I may get Showtime again in the future, but I was just watching one show at the present (Dead Like Me), which isn't really worth 10$ to me.

Stovetop,

I was under the impression that in order to have the HD box, you had to have digital. That was the case when I first signed up. Is that no longer necessary? Can I drop digital go back to classic cable and keep the 2$ box along with the HD premium channels?

Sonyman,

I have the 'digital gateway', and that's all. So basically, I have a digital box with the 13 or so basic analog channels and HBO. But I'm pretty sure I get all the other stuff like VOD, PPV and Music Channels, but I haven't checked.

Next time I get a bill, I'll post the details here.

Hey stovetop I've done the same thing especially during the summer. I dropped all the upper tier analog channels and just get the locals (actually up to 21) for $14.48, I have a digital gateway for $7.95, I have an HDTV receiver for $2.00. Minimum cost for HDTV is $24.43. I've added $10 for HBO and $10 for Showtime total $44.43 plus $1.48 for franchise fee and FCC Regulatory fee is $45.91. As long as they keep adding HD content without additional charges I'll be fine. I never watched all those shopping, lawn and garden, "E"news and TNT channels anyway. I may have to pick it up in the fall for the extra ESPN channels, but I'm getting pretty spoiled with ESPN HD.

pcs, yep, that's what I did. I haven't check what channels I get on analog, so I just guessed a number. ^_^ You'll have to tack on another $10 for the HD pack though if you want to keep it.

The only negative thing about this is you lose your double play discount if you drop classic, which would take $10 off your cable modem sub.

Stovetop

I forgot about the $10 discount with Insightbb Broadband ISP. I still get the $10 multi-service discount so I guess I can subtract another $5 from Cable TV and $5 from Internet access so the minimum cost for HDTV cable (locals only WHAS, WLKY, WAVE) is $19.43 if you also have Insight BB and get the discount. Then add $10 for HDTV sometime this month that makes it 29.43 and in my case add $20 for HBO & Showtime.

Minimum HDTV Cable Total: $19.43 (Local HD)
Typical HDTV Cable: $29.43 (HD Pack + basic analog)
Maximum HDTV Cable Total: $49.43 (With HBO & Showtime)

Does this sound right?

I'll have to try and haggle them to put that discount back on..

BTW, is anyone else NOT getting video from WAVE tonight? Paige Davis (Trading Spaces) is supposed to be on Leno! >:O

stovetop, Wave's video was missing in action last night, not sure what the problem was but I noticed as I was channel surfing.

Just got my HD box installed today! Only problem is that HDNet and HDNet Movies are not coming in. The installer didn't know if it was a problem at insight or if those channels went out. Don't know if anyone had the chance to watch either one of those today, but if so, let me know if you were receiving them. Thanks.


K13

Kleve,

HDNet and HDNet Movies have been off at my house and a friend of mines house for a few days now. Insight must be working through some problems...

I heard a rumor over the weekend of Insight planning to offer HD PVR's to us fairly soon.... Has anyone else heard anything about this? I love my stand alone Tivo, but being able to record HD on a DVR for the right price would be very cool...

GregJKy and Kleve,

My HDnet and HDnet Movies has been out for a couple days now as well, not sure what is going on, but I haven't called them yet to find out.

I think it would be pretty weird to get HD PVR's without Insight having first send out a single digital/HD combo box with programming information for HD stuff..

I had a repair tech at my house today about another problem. He called about HDNet and HDNet movies and told me they were working on it and hoped to have it back up by this evening. A DVR for HD would be AWESOME. That is my biggest complaint about HD over cable right now is that, if I can't see it live, I can't see it at all. I have no way to record anything HD, unless I tape to my VCR and play it back that way - which sucks, basically.

HDNet and HDNet Movies were back as of last night (7/28).

I had ordered the HD pack weeks ago but my HD channels disappeared last night. Called Insight and they had no record of my order. Cleared it up and the HD pack is back. BTW I dropped Showtime to compensate. Never watched it.

On another topic I see that the Louisville HD site says WFTE and WDRB will not go HD/ED until fall 2004 or later. What is the source for this? Anyone know what is up on this?

Received this e-mail from Insight today regarding the new Digital/HD combo box:

Thank you for your website inquiry. We anticipate launching Motorola's
DCT6208, which includes a PVR during the 4th quarter of 2003. We appreciate your patience.

That's awesome... So.. would you have to buy that? or would it be a higher rental fee?
I emailed Insight about InHD and Bravo-HD.. so we'll have to see what they send back about it. ^_^

John,
Insight seems not to discuss specifics relative to costs to customers in advance. The box has to have some PVR capability in order to be able to do Pay-Per-View or InDemand. My guess is that the InHD won't be rolled out until the new boxes are in place. I hope they pick up BravoHD to help further justify the $10 for the HD tier.

Anyone get their free ESPN-HD basketball for ordering the HD tier, yet?

Scott,
Are you sure about it needing PVR capabilties to do PPV and VOD? The regular Insight cable box can do both (although in SD) and it does not have any PVR functions. PPV especially should not require any additional hardware to enable..

Also, InHD will be two regular HD channels, they will not be PPV or VOD channels.

"While iN DEMAND’s core business will continue to exploit the traditional models currently being used for both pay-per-view and video-on demand, the model for the new HD channels will be 24/7, linear-programming, not PPV or VOD... "
http://www.inhd.com/press4_28_03.html

And I have not recieved my ESPN-HD basketball yet.. =)

I could be 100% wrong, but I thought the current SD digital box had a hard drive in it which allow you to "download" your VOD purchases and then be erased after 24 hours. You can fast forward, rewind, etc. Which is not true PVR but similiar. You're right about it not needing anything for PPV, my mistake.

Thanks for the link to the InHD's press release. Interesting.

NP, it looks like the channel could be very interesting... especially with the HD anime line-up from the anime network.

I just remembered reading about VOD in the Motorolla DCT5100 User Guide:
"The DCT5100 can provide exciting services such as
high-definition video, electronic program guides, high-speed data, internet
access, e-mail, Video-On-Demand, video conferencing, IP telephony,
E-Commerce, home banking, and much more."
Page 2: http://gicout60.gic.gi.com/customer_docs/user_guides/495012-001-a.pdf

Not sure if that is HD VOD, or just regular SD VOD..
I think HD VOD would require an incrediable amount of bandwidth though..

Got a response back from Insight:

"Thank you for your feedback. Although we do not plan to add BravoHD, InHD or InHD2 in the near future, we do consider customer requests when we have the opportunity to add new channels to the lineup. I will forward your suggestions to the marketing team for future consideration."

They did know about the two InHD channels though.. my emails made it seem like one.. Anyway.. it is a bad response.. but who knows what'll happen.

Here's the link to the contact page.. if you want to suggest they add it. ^_^
http://www.insight-com.com/contact/

Got another response back from Insight this morning.. :o)

"Our corporate office informed me they are negotiating with BravoHD! Hopefully, we will be able to add this channel by the beginning of the next quarter. As always, we will keep our HD customers advised of any changes to their lineup."

Great news! Insight is really wanting to push their HD line-up.. that's for sure.. ^_^

Thanks for the info. Great news indeed!

Is anyone else getting jumpy video from HDNet Movies?

Anyone else getting a blank screen on WAVE-DT 47-1? I see 47-2 but not the -1. And why can't they tell their corporate office to get a clue and lose that -2 channel?!?!

MNF on insight HD lookin purdy goood.

Anyone else getting awful reception on the upper HD channels (espn, disc., hdnet, hdmovies)?? The sound and picture are very choppy and very pixelated. This has been the case for a couple days now. Just called Insight and they new nothing of the problem and they can't get a tech out till next week! Well, just wondering if it's my connection or an Insight problem.

K13

P.S. the other channels are having the same problems, just not nearly as bad

I am still considering Insight HDTV, but I have been waiting for the day they get down to single box for both SDTV and HDTV. Motorola makes the equipment already. I have seen all the posts saying they expect to make this switch this Fall, and they hope to have a PVR. The question is, are they telling the truth or will it be another year until they actually do this? After all, their track record is not so good.......

Chris

Originally posted by lacquer
I am still considering Insight HDTV, but I have been waiting for the day they get down to single box for both SDTV and HDTV. Motorola makes the equipment already. I have seen all the posts saying they expect to make this switch this Fall, and they hope to have a PVR. The question is, are they telling the truth or will it be another year until they actually do this? After all, their track record is not so good.......
Chris
They have come through with most things that have been promised for HD - so far.
The single box is supposed to arrive in the 4th quarter (Oct-Nov-Dec).


Kleve13,
I've been having problems with HDNet Movies - choppy video. I will go into the menu of the box, then exit and it seems to clear up the problem. The other channels are OK. When we were having those wicked storms the other night, I was getting alot of really bad pixelization on KET1(764) but it has been fine since.

Did you go ahead and schedule someone to come out?

Kleve13,
I've had the problem before (and a couple other people as well), it's usually older cable wire or a splitter that's cuasing it. It would be a good idea to schedule someone to look at it.

lacquer,
For a cable company with the relatively small amount of subscribers that Insight has (compared with the big guys like Comcast and AOL TW), I think they have done an extrodinary job with rolling out and supporting their HD package. I couldn't ask for much more (other than continuing to add new channels).

Yeah, I've got someone coming out next week sometime. I didn't get to watch the mnf game last night because of the problem, but oh well, Insight told me that I won't have to pay for the HD package this month. Of course, I'd rather pay the money, but nothing I can do about it. Guess I'll wait till next week for HD.

K13

With Insight HD...can one get an old analog basic cable box and then get the HD box for the HD channels? I'd just as soon not fork over $70 for basic 'digital' cable.

Originally posted by NightowlKY
With Insight HD...can one get an old analog basic cable box and then get the HD box for the HD channels? I'd just as soon not fork over $70 for basic 'digital' cable.

Check out page 53 of this thread. A couple people (PCS and Stovetop) were discussing the cost of doing what you are talking about.

FWIW, I just ordered the HD package last week after I lost HDNet ESPN etc. They mentioned that they just dropped the price of the HD package to $7 per month from $10.

So after I dropped the utterly useless Showtime HD, I actually came out ahead. It's amazing that I had Showtime HD for 3 months and ended up watching exactly 1 Showtime movie. Most of the time I was just quickly fast forwarding past so my kids wouldn't ask why those boys in the movie are kissing each other.

With the endless possibilities for HD programming and the limited choices, I don't get why Showtime decided on softcore gay subject matter as the killer HD application. Not that the rest of their stinker movie lineup is that much better.

Well,

I am glad to hear Insight is doing a good job with HDTV. I had one of the first cable modems and it was nothing but headaches for 8 months. It was offline more often than not, and when I called tech support I usually got somebody who knew way less about IT than I did. When I finally got a supervisor on the phone I could get some results, and the problems were always with the nodes at Insight. Of course, my modem is running perfectly now, and has for years; but when I first got it I felt like a guinea pig who was being charged money to be the subject of a cruel experiment.

I therefore assumed Insight HD would be the same way. Thank goodness it is not and HDTV is working well over the cable. I guess it is about time to take the plunge.........

Chris

lacquer,

With all new technology there is going to be some bugs. When I first got Insight HD, I did have some problems with it, and support wasn't that much help, but now-a-days, it's much better. Throughout the 7 months I've had the service, the picture has gone out for plenty of occassions.. namely the Superbowl and NCAA Championships, both of which I had a bunch of friends over to watch. So there have been many dissapointments, but every CSR I've talked with has been great on working on a solution for me, and everytime it would be out consistently, they would give me a credit on my bill.

Now it's up 99% of the time, so I'm very satisfied with it. You can pretty much tell how well your Insight HD is going to work by how well your Cable Modem works. If it loses sync, your HD signal will most likely be out as well. This is usually due to old cable lines getting cold, and Insight has been pretty good on fixing the ones in my area.

Anyway, good luck with it if you decide to try it out. I wouldn't worry about having two boxes too much, once you start watching everything in HD, it's hard to go back to SD.. =)

Good news about the price going down! It was easy sell for my wife when she saw Trading Spaces in HD. :smile: The only problem I have is intermittently with HDNet movies. Do you guys stack the HD box and the SD box on top of one another. Mine is and I was wondering if heat may be causing the problem. I think the Derby was the biggest disappontment with HD so far and I don't think that was Insight's fault at all.

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
Check out page 53 of this thread. A couple people (PCS and Stovetop) were discussing the cost of doing what you are talking about.

DOH!

Thanks, Scott!

Scott, I get that problem (frames being dropped) on HDnet Movies and HDnet as well. Although it only pops up when it's showing something that is film based. All the HD-video stuff comes through fine. I did the 'go into the menu' thing like you said, and after the 5th try, it worked. So, I would assume it's a hardware problem. Maybe Insight needs to send a firmware update or something...

Trading Spaces in HD is great, I haven't been able to catch any of the new ones yet though.

stovetop, the trick i use on HDnet movies that are stuttering is to key in one of the KET station (i.e., 767) then key-in 778 and it straightens out the problem.

Thanks Michael. I guess it has something to do with going into 480i/p mode then back to 1080i mode that resets the box in some way. Has anyone contacted Insight about this? I've said something to a couple of different techs about it when they have come out to work on different problems, but none of them seem to know what the deal is. It is usually working again by the time they leave. Most of the techs I get have never worked on a HD service call either. They all say, "This is my first one."

Hey guys I've been busy lately getting a new Gateway computer with a Panasonic 42" plasma display and Windows Media for a PVR set up. Its got DVD +/- RW capability and I have an XBox hooked up too. The widescreen plasma is amazing. Very Kool!!! I am gettijng stuttering on HDNET movies. Thanks for the tips. I haven't had time to call insight about it. I stack my boxes. I'll try the "KET Fix" and let you know if it works for me.

Sweet, PCS...post some pics of that! :)

Just got back from a walk w/my daughter and tuned in WLKY-DT and I'm getting audio pops/breakups. Anyone else hearing this?

Count me in as another one that usually gets massive frame drops with HDnet movies (and occasional HDnet as well).

With the confirmation of the monthly charges on the new E* receiver confirmed for the privilege of recording HD on the as of yet unreleased 921 HD recorder I have just about given up on E* providing HD for my theater. I am looking to switch, but don't really know too much about my HD choices (other than the terrrestrial broadcasts) here in the derby city. So could anyone kind of guide me as to what in their experience is the best choice for HD in Louisville. Is it Insight HD or D* satellite?

Specifically I want to hear the experience with
-Pricing
-Equipment Options
-Content variety and offerings
-Quality of output

Thanks for the help ahead of time!
-Alex-

Alex,

You couldn't ask for much more than what our local cable company offers us, why not take them up on that offer?

PCS does a good job giving an overview of Insight pricing here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=2466523#post2466523

The equipment is a rental moto box (you don't need to buy it) and Insight has confirmed they will be offering a PVR device later this year (most likely for a higher rental fee).

Content via Insight is.

Base HD Package:
- WHAS (ABC)
- WLKY (CBS)
- WAVE (NBC)
- KET1, KET2, KET3, KET4 (PBS)

HD Pack
-ESPN
-Discovery
-HDnet
-HDnet Movies

HBO and Showtime are also available. and they have shown interest in picking up Bravo-HD as well.

The quality is great, as they are just passing on the signal they are getting (remodulated for the cable system). It's not being recompressed like DirectTV is doing with their signal.

All in all, there's not much reason to not go with Insight if your cable lines can handle it. Good luck with your decision!

ST...thanks for the detailed response. One limitation that I currently do have is that I need RGB out....does the Insight boxes have this or just component?
Thanks,
-Alex-

I believe it is just component out.

Sorry if this is a little OT...

Question for the antenna gurus - is it possible for an antenna (located in an attic) to get "fried" by a lightning strike? We had one about 10 days ago (it has caused over $7,000 damage and counting). I have a ChannelMaster 4221 in my attic - it is running into my basement, then to a Zenith DTV1080 STB. I think the STB is at least partially fried, so when I couldn't get analog or digital OTA reception from the antenna, I didn't think too much about it. But then I patched the 4221 feed directly (one by one) into the 3 TV's in my house that are still working, switched them over to TV/OTA reception (vs. Cable), but get a very weak signal (or none) on our local networks. Before the strike, I was getting very good signal strength on the local HD channels. The 4221 is a real pain in the neck to get out of the attic (I need to drag an extension latter up there to get it off of the cross-beam it's hanging on) so I haven't tried to get it down and patch it directly (no RG6 in between) to the TV's.

Any thoughts? Thanks.

PS - I accidently posted this as a new thread also.

bruggles -- I'm no antenna expert, but I doubt the antenna itself is bad. Do you have an amp hooked up to the antenna? I've seen those go out.

You might want to venture up and check to see the antenna is still on the cross-beam and aligned properly. Mine fell off several months ago and it took awhile to determine the cause of my poor reception.

RE: Insight HD

I ordered the HD from Insight yesterday (though install date 3 weeks out!). Because I previously subscribed to the basic analog cable channels, I had to add the digital box ($8) , the HD box ($2), and HD Channel Pack ($8).

I don't need the local HD channels (WAVE,WHAS,WLKY) because of my OTA HD box. So for my situation, I'm paying an extra $18 per month (+FCC Charges) for Discovery, HDNet, HDMovies, and ESPN HD. Wow, that's a great deal!!

The alternative is DirecTV. To get HD channels with DirecTV it cost $35 per month (+ up front equipment + install).

Steve,
If you have an OTA HD box, won't that work for DirectTV?


This was Insight response to my inquiry about frame drops on HDNet Movies:
Dear Mr. Shanks:
Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately, this is not a plant issue. I've
spoken with our head-end manager and he stated you may be having problems with your signal level to your home, so you will have to set up a service call for a resolution. To schedule an appointment, please contact our 24-hour customer service center at (502) 357-4400.

I have a bad feeling that this one is going to be a headache to get corrected.

Insight *heart* Louisville.

From Karen Stokes @ Insight:
"We will be launching Bravo HD (channel 774) on September 1, 2003!"

^_^

John, thanks for the great news. I'm assuming they are keeping the HD tier at $8 month. Anyone know?

Here the schedule for Bravo HD+
http://www.bravotv.com/HDPlus/

I was all set to come on and give the big heads up about Bravo-HD from what I saw on the Lexington KY HD thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2556215#post2556215 They get Bravo-HD on Sept 29th. They get their HD pack launched on Sept. 15th.

But when I got here I discovered that Bravo-HD debuts Sept. 1st. Great news! They have no price increase so I doubt we Louisvile Insight customers will either.

In view of the upcoming Cardinal/Wildcat rivalry game 8/31 on ESPN (no HD) I should have known anything Lexington can do LOUISVILLE CAN DO BETTER !!!!!!! (That is 7 exclamation Points-can you spell touchdown)


Scott
Good luck with your frame problem with Insight. I had the same problem and they came out and ran new cable and took out 3 needless splitters(mine was old and run throughout my large 3 story house by the previous owner at least 25 years ago). It seems to have fixed the problem by boosting signal strength. Plus my overall signal is even better (ie. no more audio drops and aliasing). Hope you have the same good fortune. Keep us posted. I've had my share of service call nightmares so I know it could be a real pain.

Go Cards ;)

Lexington can do LOUISVILLE CAN DO BETTER !!!!!!! (That is 7 exclamation Points-can you spell touchdown)


Its because a bounce pass is illegal in football, the ball is the wrong shape, and you can't dunk the ball ...<grin>

Go EKU!

(I live near Richmond and a EKU grad)

Ok, I broke down and am on the phone with Insight right now and going to order the Triple Play. The HD Pack is now $7.95 and that is the HDNet channels, ESPN HD, and Discovery HD. And didn't have to get the whole-house maintenance thing either.

Let's see if the installation goes ok *this* time! :)

Thanks for the responses....

I made it up into the attic yesterday. Turns out the coax had become disconnected from the antenna's balun... blown off to be more exact. I can't find the balun, but it's probably in the insulation that is marked by a foot-diameter black spot :>) The coax connecter had been pulled in two (the part that screws in was gone). Unfortunately, I didn't have any snap-and-seal connectors left, so I couldn't re-terminate it to see if the coax was still good - I'll do that this weekend. However, I bought a new balun for the antenna (ChannelMaster 4221) and it seems fine. The other end of this coax is my Zenith DTV1080, which doesn't seem to be working properly. It gets no DSS or OTA reception, but all menus work correctly, so I think it wasn't THAT bad - point being, I'm hoping my coax is still good.....

Another subject....

Since my DTV1080 seems to be shot, I'm re-evaluating my HDTV setup. Right now, I have D*, with an elliptical dish (not SAT-C yet). I also have Insight Basic cable (For locals, plus it gives me a discount off of my InsightBB service). I also just bought a PC that I want to use in my theater setup (DELL P4 2.6, Radeon 9800, still building....) I'm just now considering Insight HDTV, because I was always under the impression that you had to have Insight Digital to get it. So here are the 3 options I'm considering.

1) re-up for a D* STB and get the $11 HD package. If I go this way, I would probably go with the new Zenith STB.

2) get Insight HD (this would add about $18/month to my current charges, right? plus installation fee??) and hope that their HD PVR comes out soon. I guess this is my cheapest short-term option (even with the PVR).

3) get a MyHD card for my PC and stick with OTA HD, buying time until D* or Insight comes out with a HD PVR

The more I think about this, #2 seems to be the best option. Especially considering I don't have to sink $300-$600 into equipment that will become outdated soon (i.e. an HD D* Tivo comes out).

Any thoughts would be appreciated..... thanks

This is a total no brainer. Save the money on the STB and DTV subscription and go with insight. $2 for the STB per month, $7 for the HD package and $10 for HBOHD. (Showtime's a waste IMHO)

You'll save money and most importantly have a much better, less compressed feed than you will from the Satellite guys.

Another thing - now that I've got my 50 foot DVI cable has anyone heard if the new STB from Insight will have a DVI connection?

Monday night football on Insight HD is a whole new ballgame. Not only is the picture quality all that, but the fan chatter from the rear speakers make you feel like you are really there. Now if Insight could get rid of this extra STB.

Quesiton about Insight installation...

Has anyone tried to get the boxes sent to them to do their own installation? I tried this today, but the CSR said it couldn't be done. The earliest they can come out is next Friday (9/5) and I can't really afford to take a 1/2 day off (if they actually show up on time, which they NEVER have for me). The could do it on Saturday, but I'll be out of town. I would live to have this up and running for the first MNF, but I'm running out of time....

Thanks!

They won't let you install it yourself. They have to run a dedicated cable for the digital boxes. They aren't suppose to be split before the box because it reduces the signal strength too much for the boxes to work properly.

What kind of guide info are you getting on the KETs? Since day one, I've had full guide info for KET1 only. But after a channel scan last week, I started getting a guide for KET3 also (it now says "educational programming" or something instead of the usual "regular programming"). Anyone else getting this? And what about KET2? Anyone getting guide info for that.

For the record, I'm using a Tosh DST-3000 with a DirecTV connection active. And I'm living in Bowling Green.

Thanks,
-Reagan

Originally posted by bruggles
Quesiton about Insight installation...

Has anyone tried to get the boxes sent to them to do their own installation? I tried this today, but the CSR said it couldn't be done. The earliest they can come out is next Friday (9/5) and I can't really afford to take a 1/2 day off (if they actually show up on time, which they NEVER have for me). The could do it on Saturday, but I'll be out of town. I would live to have this up and running for the first MNF, but I'm running out of time....

Thanks!
They have apparently improved their arrival times. I was offered three time ranges (8:30 - 11:30; 11:30 - 2:30; or 2:30 - 5:30). The last time (read several pages back :) ) I tried this I selected 11:30 and got home about 11:35, or so, and thought there's no way he'd have been there yet and there was already a note on the door that they'd missed me!!

I picked the 2:30 - 5:30 so I can just leave work early for the day and then play around with the stuff :D

Our guide information has been on line for a while BUT we have been developed a problem with the system's ability to get updated information from a local server... SO it may be intermittent while we chase the worms/bugs away...

William

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
They won't let you install it yourself. They have to run a dedicated cable for the digital boxes. They aren't suppose to be split before the box because it reduces the signal strength too much for the boxes to work properly.

Scott,

Do you have *any* documentation of this requirement? I just had cable connected in my new house and requested that they run a dedicated line for my cable modem, due to the fact that I have 4 bedrooms, a family room, and two office outlets (one for modem) that require connections. The installer balked, and my wife got on the horn with insight (I was at work) who said absolutely not -- they never do this. I know that's crap because a work with a guy who got a 2nd line run after months of fighting with them about signal strength....

I have insight digital and the hd box, which is nice, but the analog channels (~70% of what I watch) are absolutely terrible wrt signal quality, especially after going through the TiVo.

I live in a neighborhood with buried wires, and I know that the reason they don't want to run a dedicated line is that they only have two outlets at the green box out in front of my house -- one for me and one for my neighbor. They would likely have to bring in a new line from wherever their trunk is. Still sucks though... why should I pay for a cable signal that is almost unwatchably fuzzy on my 65" tv?

Anyone else have a similar issue?:mad:

My Hughes E86 recently stopped receiving WHAS 55 reliably. MNF is a high priority for me so I had to do something now. I didn't want to spend $500 on a new STB that may be outdated in a month so the cheaper route for now was to have Insight locals + HD installed Saturday. I have been wanting to directly compare Insight HD and D* HD picture quality for some time now. I still have D* total choice + HD pack as well so here was my chance.

Some have said that Insight is not compressing signals like D* is said to be doing. I fully expected Insight's picture to be noticeably better. I have to say that so far, after 5 days of frequent switching between the HD pack channels on Insight and D*, my wife and I cannot tell any difference between them. They both look great, but one not better than the other. They look exactly the same to us.

I was surprised at how bad / fuzzy the SD analog channels are in Insight. The SD channels on D* are MUCH clearer/sharper than Insight analog on my 53" Pioneer 520HD. I know it must be the difference between digital and analog but Insight's analog channels look so much worse than the D* SD channels that I can't bear to watch the Insight analog channels. The Insight install was done on Saturday with new wiring and with 2 splitters from the source.

Rick I think you are right about Insight analog being fuzzy. Glad to hear the direct HD comparison with D* is identical. I expected this since Insight's HD looks so good. With all the HD choices and more to come I hardly ever watch analog anymore. I haven't watched ANY analog in 3 months. WOW.

oops I take that back I watched a weather channel storm update earlier in the summer. PQ was not really an issue LOL.

Is it me, or do none of the KET stations seem to be in high def. I thought that all of thier programming was supposed to be in HD. Although I don't watch them much, I don't think I have seen anything that even resembles HD. Please let me know.

Also, does anyone know when Insight is coming out with the one stb?

Thanks,

K13

Originally posted by Kleve13
Is it me, or do none of the KET stations seem to be in high def. I thought that all of thier programming was supposed to be in HD. Although I don't watch them much, I don't think I have seen anything that even resembles HD. Please let me know.

Also, does anyone know when Insight is coming out with the one stb?

Thanks,

K13

KB,
KET usually shows about 1 broadcast a week that is actually HD, the rest on 764-767 are digital (not HD). See http://www.ket.org/dtv/programs.htm for their digital/HD schedule.

Insight is suppose to come out with the one stb 4th quarter 2003.

Great news! ^_^

#1, Bravo-HD is now on channel 774. ^_^ I haven't been able to watch much of it today, so check it out if you have the chance! ^_^

#2, Insight will have the US Open on their special event channel!

Very good news!

Here's the email:
> U.S. Open Tennis Championship HD Broadcast
>
> Current HD Customers can tune to our SPECIAL EVENTS channel 770, Sept. 1-
> Sept.4th.
> We are making every effort to get this special Hd broadcast up, worst case
> scenario would be a Tues., Sept. 2nd start.

I think this is great, Insight is doing a tremendous job with their HD programming. Shoot them an email if you get the chance!

This is great news! I checked Bravo HD out tonight - the DD 5.1 soundes great! If Insight keeps adding HD content I may end up dropping D*'s HD package.

stovetop, thanks a lot for the update on US Open Tennis.

I was hoping to pick up some baseball in HD, but ESPN-HD and HDNET have nothing scheduled. A new HD channel "InHD" will broadcast some MLB in HD. Anyone have an update on Insight status with InHD ? The channel launches on a lot of cable outlets Sept 15th. Hope they pick it up.
http://www.inhd.com/

stovetop, you seem to have pipeline into Insight, any word?

I caught my first BravoHD yesterday. PQ and audio was amazing on par with HDNET. The source was video which gives the best WOW factor. Glad PQ is not suffering as they add new channels.

Too bad the UofL dismantling of UK was not on ESPNHD last night. Great rivalry game.:cool:

Originally posted by cambus
A new HD channel "InHD" will broadcast some MLB in HD. Anyone have an update on Insight status with InHD ? The channel launches on a lot of cable outlets Sept 15th. Hope they pick it up.
http://www.inhd.com/

InHD is on Insight channel 770 now! They are saying there is a preview today from 7p-11p then InHD and InHD2 will start Sept 15th.

Way to go Insight!

O_O Jeese.... Insight is just the best cable company ever.. O_O

Like Rick214 said, the InHD loop is on 770, I'll be sure to tune in for the preview.. Man.. this is just phenominal!

InHD 1, InHD 2,Bravo, Espn, Discovery, Hbo, Showtime, HdNet, HdNet Movies, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS... and Insight hasn't even had this for a year yet! Louisville hit the HD jackpot. ^_^

Cambus, I'm always emailing Insight on HD news and asking for updates.. so I think they just know me now, Karen (Insight Rep) emails me once in a while with an update and this last time she actually asked me to post it for you guys. =)

John,
You ought to suggest they participate in this thread. The InHD promos look very cool. What's up with the Courier, though? All these exciting things happening with HD locally and none of it gets mentioned in the paper.

Wow, this is incredible.

For those of use that are hungry for HD, Insight has delivered. Let's hope their financial condition improves, as they have had some bumpy quarters (they just fired their CEO, Kim Kelly last week - http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030822/media_insight_1.html)

If anyone sees Gregg Graff around, thank him for his HD offerings! He is smart enough to realize he has a huge edge over his satellite competitors as they have no local network HD, and will have none for years.

By acquiring other cable cos and rolling out new services (cable, HD, and phone) they have accumulated a huge debt load of $2.6 Billion!! They are paying $200 million a year in interest expense alone. Wow, my cable bill doesn't seem as steep now.

Insight Income Statement:
http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/i/icci.html

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
What's up with the Courier, though? All these exciting things happening with HD locally and none of it gets mentioned in the paper.

Scott
I wouldn't outright blame the CJ. Insight does a poor job with local PR. Where are the press releases from Insight? http://www.insight-com.com/press/ They need to work on it.

Don't expect the press to work magic. They need to know these types of things are going on.

BUT , the Courier Journal is not innocent. Their TV/Radio columist Tom Dorsey writes more about HD than our "Gizmo" writer Ric Manning. How can you review plasmas and not mention HD content?? Ric does just that:
http://www.courier-journal.com/gizweb/cols/03/030802.htm

In fact, I don't ever remember Ric writing an article on HD.. see for yourself
http://www.courier-journal.com/gizweb/backfile.htm

Does anyone know if InHD is going to be a premium channel on its own or part of the HD tier service? Also, will we be getting InHD and InHD2 or just 1 of the 2?

Is it me or does the US Open look better on InHD than it did on CBS? I thought it looked just a little bit better on InHD for some reason.

Scott,

InHD is meant to be part of a digital package, it's not like the rest of InDemand PPV or VOD services, so it should be part of Insight Hd Pack. I would assume we would also be getting InHD2 along with InHD, but it's not confirmed. =)

The US Open does look better on InHD, but I think it's because the games are being played later in the day under artificial lighting which isn't washing out a lot of the colors like the Sun is. (the only games I've seen on InHd have been at night, while the only games I've seen on CBS have been around noon) They also might be using a superior encoder as opposed to WLKY.

It does look quite good though. ^_^

If we keep getting news like this, I'll be able to stop using my Viagra presciption. :D ;)

The 5 minute promo on InHD I saw last night was some of the best quality HD I've ever seen.

The US Open coverage on InHD was also jaw dropping.

The only problem with HD, is going back to watching SD. Sunday I watched an entire soccer game on HDNet, then went upstairs to watch UK/UL on ESPN2. The picture in comparison was awful. I kept asking my wife if the football game looked OK to her. (it was fuzzy and hard to watch for me, no different for her) Once you go HD, you can't easily go back to SD.

Steve,

That UK/UL game was the fuzziest most unwatchable piece of garbage I've ever seen. And I have DirecTV, so that's saying something.

Streaming video over the internet would have looked better.

-Reagan

I've started having trouble getting WHAS OTA last night. Has any one else had any problems? Have they lowered their output? Maybe my antenna is just waterlogged from all the rain.

Chris

Originally posted by Chris Sutton
I've started having trouble getting WHAS OTA last night. Has any one else had any problems? Have they lowered their output? Maybe my antenna is just waterlogged from all the rain.

Chris

I live in New Albany, a few miles from the OTA towers, and I have frequently gotten breakups and pixiling on channel 55 WHAS. It's strange to me because all the other digital stations I receive fine with no problems - only WHAS 55 even though most of the other station's towers are located on the same hills. The signal strength meter on my E86 was the same for all the digital signals, but only WHAS 55 would break up.

I had the company that installed my antenna come out and check my signal strength and alignment - everything checked out OK. He even called WHAS to see if they were sending out lower power (he used to work there) - no change in output power (though not full power yet).

I'm getting excellent signals, 93-100 indicated on the E86 with occasional drops to 86 - when the signal drops to 86 WHAS breaks up - the other digital channels don't.

I've read on the forums where the Hughes E86 has OTA reception problems for various reasons so I'm convinced that is the problem. I tried a fan and other measures without improvement. Finally, to avoid missing MNF, I decided rather than spend $500 for a new STB now with new models due out in a month or 2 - the less expensive route was to have Insight cable install their HD - both local digital channles and their HD pack.

I have noticed rare (2-3 times) breakups on WHAS 55 on Insight 760 - anybody else? but generally very good reception on all digital channels - but Insight's analog channels are MUCH worse / fuzzy than D*'s SD channels.

With Insight adding so much HD lately (Bravo HD, InHD) I may have keep both Insight and D* for a while (can't give up Sunday Ticket!)

I hope my rambling may give you a little insight (no pun intended) into your reception problem with WHAS.

................ Rick

Rick,
Have you always have problems receiving WHAS? Mine has been fine for a year now, pegged at 100 on the meter until this week. Now its reading 35-45. I was just wondering if anyone else was having recent trouble.
BTW Sorry you had to go to cable. My last experience with cable was something I would not wish on my worse enemy.

Originally posted by Chris Sutton
Rick,
Have you always have problems receiving WHAS? Mine has been fine for a year now, pegged at 100 on the meter until this week. Now its reading 35-45. I was just wondering if anyone else was having recent trouble.

I have not "always" had problems with WHAS-DT OTA. It has been getting worse over the last several months. I suspect my E86 may have sustained some permanent heat damage over time to cause the worsening. My signal strengths on the E86 meter have not changed, almost always 93-100 but dropouts occur with dips to 86 or below.

What STB are you using? You might look in the HDTV Hardware area of the forum - they're always talking about these kinds of issues.


BTW Sorry you had to go to cable. My last experience with cable was something I would not wish on my worse enemy.

I was wary of cable, but I have to say that the quality and wealth of HD programming that Insight has is better than most areas of the country. We in this area, because of Insight, are far ahead of what most can get in HD.

If it wasn't for not wanting to loose Sunday Ticket and Insight's extremely poor SD analog channels compared to the same SD digital channels on D* that look MUCH better (which mostly what my wife watches - and even she can tell how bad they look as well) I would probably switch completely to Insight.

I was wary of Insight at the begining, but I was more wary of throwing down $500 for a Dish/DirectTV reciever, so I gave them a chance, and haven't looked back since. You really can't ask for much more when it comes to HDTV and Insight (other than a combined box and a PVR box.. which are both coming). If you live in Louisville and have an HD capable set.. you NEED to give them a chance. I think we're the ONLY place in the nation with Bravo-HD. O_o

Check out the comments in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=297169

I just checked my OTA signal stregth on WHAS-DT 55 using my Hughes E86.

I'm mostly getting 93 with frequent drops to 79-86.

Originally posted by Rick214
I have not "always" had problems with WHAS-DT OTA. It has been getting worse over the last several months. I suspect my E86 may have sustained some permanent heat damage over time to cause the worsening. My signal strengths on the E86 meter have not changed, almost always 93-100 but dropouts occur with dips to 86 or below.

Rick,
Your E86 may be the problem, but, it could also be increased multipath. E-bounce, ducting and other signal propagation issues tend to worsen as summer trails off into fall - very often you will have better luck receiving distant stations than your nearby locals. The soggy embeded t-storm weather we're having ain't helping much either ...

HDC

I have an E86 as well. Looks like your signal strength hasn't changed much,so I'll check my antenna tonight (weather permitting). Maybe it got turned abit in the storms the other night.

Thanks for the info on Insight, but that's a no go in my house. Two boxes is a pain. And the extra $20 or so month I save paid for my reciever a while ago. I don't like the motorola interface. Also, I just can't take dealing with them no matter how much HD they offer. My trusty antenna and directv has served me well over the years. Actually I bet a coat hanger jammed in the back of my tv would give me better reception than what I used to get from the cable co. And then having to get them out to fix it and take off work and then tell me that everything looks fine to them. Rinse. Repeat.
No thanks.

I hope everything goes great for Insight and you guys from here on out, but it can happen without me.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
Rick,
Your E86 may be the problem, but, it could also be increased multipath. E-bounce, ducting and other signal propagation issues tend to worsen as summer trails off into fall - very often you will have better luck receiving distant stations than your nearby locals. The soggy embeded t-storm weather we're having ain't helping much either ...

HDC

The company that installed my antenna spent a lot of time using various instruments to check for potential problems, including multipath... conclusion was I am getting a strong enough signal to the STB that the breakups and drops should not be happening. Different weather conditions have not made a difference in the OTA reception.

A search on the E86 in AVS Hardware section will show lots of folk having problems with E86 OTA reception - especially as the E86 gets older - thought to be from chronic overheating problems.

I initially intended to use Insight until the much anticipated D* HD Tivo came out - last I heard, rumored to be the 1st quarter of 2004. Now I'm just going to wait and see what the situation HD-wise is whenever Insight's HD PVR and/or the HD Tivo comes out. Who knows what choices we will have then - could be a very different situation.

Originally posted by Rick214
The company that installed my antenna spent a lot of time using various instruments to check for potential problems, including multipath... conclusion was I am getting a strong enough signal to the STB that the breakups and drops should not be happening. Different weather conditions have not made a difference in the OTA reception.

A search on the E86 in AVS Hardware section will show lots of folk having problems with E86 OTA reception - especially as the E86 gets older - thought to be from chronic overheating problems.

I initially intended to use Insight until the much anticipated D* HD Tivo came out - last I heard, rumored to be the 1st quarter of 2004. Now I'm just going to wait and see what the situation HD-wise is whenever Insight's HD PVR and/or the HD Tivo comes out. Who knows what choices we will have then - could be a very different situation.

Rick,
I'm on my second E86 which has been fan cooled since day one ... I assure you that there have been significant changes in signal propagation patterns since mid-August, one night I actually pulled in WHAS-DT 55 from 80 miles away! ... just trying to help .... cheers!

HDC

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
Rick,
I'm on my second E86 which has been fan cooled since day one ... I assure you that there have been significant changes in signal propagation patterns since mid-August, one night I actually pulled in WHAS-DT 55 from 80 miles away! ... just trying to help .... cheers!

HDC
I appreciate your thoughts. I guess I am pretty convinced at this point that the problem is the E86. I just can't tolerate spotty, intermittent reception while I'm trying to watch something - or trying to demonstrate HD to my friends and family.

You say you're on your 2nd E86 - what happened to the 1st one?

Like I said earlier, I could have spent $500+ to get another STB (probably the Zenith 520) now.. or ... now that I get all the HD channels available to me reliably, I have the luxury of waiting a few months or so to see what the new STB/PVR's have to offer.

Again, I appreciate your input.

............. Rick

Several have mentioned that two boxes are needed to pick up HD material from Insight. If you only want the HD channels, I'm pretty sure you don't even need the 'digital box'. (though Insight might still require a subscription to it) I have never turned on my 'digital box' and I've been viewing HD material for a week from the HD box (Motorola DCT5100.)

If you want to receive the digital SD channels (I think channels 100 and above) you will need the digital box. But for channels 2-99 the box appears to use the analog channel. So you don't receive any better/worse picture by plugging the cable directly into your TV for 2-99.

Is this correct?

Steve,

Yep, that's pretty much it. I don't even have my digital box plugged into the power anymore. But some of the 1-99 analog channels are 'overlayed' with their digital counterpart when view on the digtal box. A few of them are HBO, Showtime and Bravo. I haven't checked all of them though.

Chris,

Sorry you feel that strongly against Insight. The rental fee for the HD box is 2$ a month not 20$ (but there are also other programming requirements - like DirectTV), which also comes with local HD. Your Insight analog reception maybe poor, but with digital, it's either you get it or you don't, so that shouldn't be an issue. But anyway, good luck with DirectTV as well!

For those having reception problems, I've noticed break-ups tonight with WAVE thru two different sources -- my Insight Motorola Box and my 'myHD' card using my attic antenna.

I've concluded that it's atmospheric.

Originally posted by Rick214
You say you're on your 2nd E86 - what happened to the 1st one?


First E86 displayed various frequencies of rolling hum-bars, related to sat switching signal. The problem may have been heat related, or it may have been DOA. I swapped it out (at BestBuy) after about 2 weeks of fruitless troubleshooting. 2nd E86 has been trouble free for just over a year now.

HDC

Originally posted by cambus
But for channels 2-99 the box appears to use the analog channel. So you don't receive any better/worse picture by plugging the cable directly into your TV for 2-99.

Is this correct?

I think the digital box cleans up the picture a little bit on the analog channels. There is not quite as much noise in the signal. Its not a whole lot better, but somewhat better. This biggest difference is on channel 2 (WAVE), who is moving to channel 10 or something like that later this fall because the transmition of channel 2 is so bad.

The only reason I use the box is for the channel guide. The guide also shows what is on the HD channels (750 - 778)

Originally posted by stovetop

Chris,

Sorry you feel that strongly against Insight. The rental fee for the HD box is 2$ a month not 20$ (but there are also other programming requirements - like DirectTV), which also comes with local HD. Your Insight analog reception maybe poor, but with digital, it's either you get it or you don't, so that shouldn't be an issue. But anyway, good luck with DirectTV as well!

The extra $20 I was refering to was the difference in total bill for the same programming. I had Insight give me a quote when they got their HD package nailed down. Curiosity got the better of me.


Also, my reception for WHAS was fine last night. Must have been the weather. Its just strange in that my reception has never been so bad before.

Chris

Hey, another email update from Insight for those interested. I'm just going to do a cut a paste on this one since they threw in some marketing info along with it.

If you had the HD Pak, you would be able to watch the UK game (Saturday, September, 13, 2003) in High Def on ESPN. :-)

The HD Pak includes ESPN HD www.espn.com, Discovery Home www.discovery.com, Theatre HD http://dhd.discovery.com/, HDNet www.hd.net, Entertainment and HD Net Movies for $7.50 per month. To order this service, please call our 24-hour customer service center at (502) 357-4400, or if it is more convenient, you may visit any of our front counter service centers http://www.insight-com.com/about/louisville.html#louisville to place your order.

Scott, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I suggested they particpate on the board a couple months back (i think that's why they asked to foward the information along last time). I'll send another request though since it'd probably be to their advantage to just post this stuff directly anyway. (it's a shame I don't some sort of discount for this stuff.. heh)

24hrs from now and I *should* be on Insight's Triple Play.

Looking forward to seeing the wealth of HD they are offering. And, I hope WHAS-DT comes in fine tonight for the NFL kickoff game. With that High pressure front now firmly entrenched, maybe reception will be better.

To those asking about WHAS' signal. I usually got a good lock on them with my cheesy double-bow tie atop the gate on the porch here at my townhome in Plainview. I had to raise it up a couple of feet and I'm barely getting 50% on my MyHD card. But, it does well with 35-40% signal as long as it's steady. Haven't had a blip yet in the 5 mins. I've had it on the NFL pre-game show. (Figures I'd miss Britney in her short shorts :( )

Originally posted by NightowlKY
Figures I'd miss Britney in her short shorts :( )

Nah ... the pre-show barfed until Aerosmith and even they had trouble

HDC

HDC, do you get both the Louisville and Lexington ABC stations?
WHAS upconverts their 720p and sends it out as 1080i, so how does that look compared to Lexington (or do they do the same thing?). I like WHAS's converted picture more than ESPN's, but I do notice more macroblocking on the upconverted signal.

Can someone confirm that the digital box is required for the HD package (even if it's just the fact that you have to pay for it)? I subscribe to Basic now, and an getting the HD install next Saturday. I have D*, and I really am not (that) concerned about getting slightly better reception on the "basic" channels (although mine are not great). I'd rather not pay the extra $10/month for the digital box if it's not necessary.

Thanks!

Originally posted by stovetop
HDC, do you get both the Louisville and Lexington ABC stations?
WHAS upconverts their 720p and sends it out as 1080i, so how does that look compared to Lexington (or do they do the same thing?). I like WHAS's converted picture more than ESPN's, but I do notice more macroblocking on the upconverted signal.

On the digital side, WAVE-DT is the only one I get consistently, but then again it's the only one I really try to get :D WLKY is doable but not as easy. WHAS is usually a lost cause, I've only gotten a picture once (the time mentioned above). There were obviously some freaky atmospherics that night. I can get all of the (major) analogs easily (sans KET.)

Anyway, I'm relatively confident that WTVQ in Lexington is doing native 720p. Bizzare that WHAS would choose to crossconvert. I would give WTVQ+MNF a slight edge in PQ over ESPN-HD+SNF via D* if that helps any :D

Edit: I should note that all 720p HD gets crossconverted to 1080i on my rig.

HDC

Wow - Bravo looks GREAT! Great programming, PQ, but uh... is anyone else having problems getting the audio? I'm getting the sound of the subwoofer but nothing else. All the other channels are fine.

Anyone else having problems getting audio on bravo?

Originally posted by bruggles
Can someone confirm that the digital box is required for the HD package (even if it's just the fact that you have to pay for it)? I subscribe to Basic now, and an getting the HD install next Saturday. I have D*, and I really am not (that) concerned about getting slightly better reception on the "basic" channels (although mine are not great). I'd rather not pay the extra $10/month for the digital box if it's not necessary.

Thanks!

It's required. :rolleyes:

I tried to get out of it but no go. Which, is just as well as I can now watch TV upstairs, too. The Motorola box is kinda neat looking but I'll have to get some wide electrical tape to cover the big display on it and the digital gateway box.

It's nice to have all of this HD material now! :) But, the KET channels are only coming thru as 480i. I know that as any 480i material on my set results in many vertical lines (like interference) running across the screen (apparently, the 2HDW board has failed and I'm waiting on a service tech from HHGregg's warranty service to call).

And, cable modem is WAY better than BellSouth's DSL (3.0 - 3.5mbsp download vs. 1.2mbsp on DSL)! :)

Took the guy 4 hours yesterday to get everything run. There's only one pair of wires working for the phones here in this townhome (when they remodeled they messed up wiring/cabling) so my 2nd phone line is just laying on the floor in my master bedroom. And, he had to drill another hole into the apartment from outside to run a line into my family room for the HD cable. And, he left the component and optical cable here, too, no mention of an additional charge on those :)

One problem, though, I seem to be having intermittent dropouts, esp. on WHAS' feed and somewhat on one of the HDNet channels, I think (don't know what channel #s are what just yet)

Why is tennis not being show in HD? Does anyone know the phone # at the station?

I watched most of the Ferraro-Agassi match today and it was HD. I went to the UK game and missed the Women's final.

I noticed the Tennis was initially SD then went to HD. I guess they didn't hit the HD switch:mad:

I don't usually watch tennis but I got hooked with the great quality of HD and being able to see the ball on the line sooooo clearly. Then I also happened to join the Capriaiti vs. Henin-H... match which turned into a 3.5 hour war/indurance test lasting until 1:30 AM friday night-saturday morning. What an excellent athletic display by two women. So I had to see the championship match the next day and wow that little French cutie Henin won the US Open. Good thing UofL had a week off in football.

Jerry if you are getting drops on WHAS you may need to have them check your signal strength. However I did get 1 drop on WHAS yesterday. I used to get them all the time until they ran new cable for me. Now they are rare.

Yeah...I'm going to have to call them. I was watching that InHD program on the recent Mt. Everest expedition filmed in HD and it was AMAZING! There were several dropouts, though and moments of pixelation.

I did find a great way to better the look of the analog (or other SD content), though. I hooked the cable out from the digital gateway box to the coax input on my MyHD MDP-100 card and replaced the the component cables going into the 1080i input with RGBHV cables from the MyHD card and it looks rather decent (watched the NASCAR race on TNT the other night that way). I need a component switcher now, one that has RGBHV in/out, too.

HEY!!

What happened to WHAS on Insight?!?! The game is 4:3 SD and not 16:9 HD!!

AUGH!!!



EDIT: They just fixed it....whew!

Does anybody know if WFTE (UPN) is on the air? Full power? Are they using a directional antenna? I want a digital signal from some UPN affiliate and the normal Indy DMA channel, WNDY-DT 32, has major interference from channel 32 analog in Louisville.

I have heard that WFTE is on the air and it is actually located about 20 miles closer to me than WNDY, but I get no signal from WFTE.


Thanks,
Wil

Originally posted by WilEAdams
Does anybody know if WFTE (UPN) is on the air? Full power? Are they using a directional antenna? I want a digital signal from some UPN affiliate and the normal Indy DMA channel, WNDY-DT 32, has major interference from channel 32 analog in Louisville.

I have heard that WFTE is on the air and it is actually located about 20 miles closer to me than WNDY, but I get no signal from WFTE.


Thanks,
Wil

Look at WFTE's tower data (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=WFTE) (notably, the STA information), it looks like you're in a not-so-well-covered area. When they go to their permanent setup, it looks better for you.

HTH!

Well, this is somewhat good news. It looks like WFTE (and even WDRB) will be accessible in my area with no problem once they go to their normal operating power/locations. It looks like they will throw a better signal over this area than WLKY or WAVE.

Thanks for the great informational link. It really helped me out a lot.


Wil

Well, WDRB ain't doin' diddly! They don't even pass the lame 480P from FOX. :(

Just washed out 480i.

Well,

I thought FOX was going to keep broadcasting the LAME 480P. But they have announced they will be going to 720p by next Fall (2004). Thank goodness.

On another note, does anybody have a date when the single box solution will be available from Insight?

Chris

Chris,

I just had the HD from Insight installed and all the tech would say was 4th Quarter.

Did anybody else catch tonight's HDNet Movies showing of Rattle and Hum? The audio was awful! Like when the volume would start to crank some volume leveler kicked in and lowered it down. I had to end up putting in my DVD and synched the sound w/the picture and watched that way.

:|

Jerry - I watched about 30 minutes and didn't notice any sound problems.

Upcoming HD Programming of local interest:

ESPN HD - Saturday, September 13, 2003
7:45pm
College Football: Kentucky @ Alabama

INHD - Saturday, September 20, 2003
7:00PM
College Football: Eastern KY @ Western KY

Quick question (hopefully!) for all you Louisville Insight HD customers....

What channel is INHD on? I have recently had insight HD installed at my home with all the HD packages (HBO, Show, HD extended pack etc...) and I don't seem to ever be able to get INHD when a scheduled event is on! I have called the Customer Service Reps and they say that they have NO idea what INHD is or what channel it is supposed to be on. With INHD2 supposedly launching tomorrow I would be very interested to know if anyone is getting this or not and if so what channel it is on.

Thanks,
-Alex-

INHD was on 770 - it's not there now - they've removed it! I hope Insight puts it back!

Still not back, for me, at least.

I think we all need to email Insight about getting INHD back - I did

I e-mailed Insight last night, as well. Will let you know what they said unless someone else gets a response before me.

Here's the reply I got back from Insight today in response to my asking what happened to INHD on 770 and do they plan to bring it back:

Channel 770 is our Special Events HD channel. It will
not have daily programming on it........just special events.


Notice they negleted to address my question of will they carry INHD and INHD2 - I guess that's not a "no".

Still hopeful.

Notice they negleted to address my question of will they carry INHD and INHD2 - I guess that's not a "no".
Still hopeful. [/B]

I received an e-mail from Insight today that said they were still working on getting InHD. It is "under construction" to directly quote them. No indication was given as to when it will be available.

Reply from Insight today after I sent another email complaining about having the INHD preview and not getting the channels :

One of the Marketing departments concerns was to have the InHD on our Special Events channel and have our customers expect additional HD channels sooner than we can launch it. We truly appreciate your patience......but for now it's still in the works.

So what was with the constant "Coming September 16th" announcements? Argh.

HTCrazy,
I think that was what Insight's reply to Rick addressed. They wanted to show the preview but were concerned about showing the preview because it showed a start date earlier than they could deliver the service. They decided to go ahead and show it anyway. At least we know its coming sometime. I asked them for an estimated start date for InHD and have not received a response yet.

Does anyone know how to access a schedule for the Special Events channel 770?

Anyone else with InsightHD hearing messed up audio on CSI right now (WLKY - CBS)?

The audio is all chopped up!


:(

Anyone with WLKY-DT OTA getting the same?

Nightowl. Same (audio dropouts) on OTA.

Does anyone know how to access the other video inputs on the Motorola 5100?

Anyone notice dropped frames tonight on HDNet and HDMovies ? I tried to power cycle the Motorola 5100. Also tried the trick I read here about putting it on KET then to HDNet, but still had picture issues. Audio is fine.

I also heard audio breaking up again on CBS around 10:50pm.

Originally posted by cambus
Anyone notice dropped frames tonight on HDNet and HDMovies ? I tried to power cycle the Motorola 5100. Also tried the trick I read here about putting it on KET then to HDNet, but still had picture issues. Audio is fine.

I experienced that as well. The "trick" that works best for me is to go into the menu settings and change 480 override and change it from 480i to 480p and then back again. Then turn the 5100 back on and tune to 778.

Again last night audio on WLKY DT was bad on the network portion of prime time. Local commercials were OK. This distorted audio is happening often at 32.

I receive locals OTA.

I have sent emails to chief Eng. with no reply. His name is Jim Mercer and his email is jmercer@hearst.com. Please join me and send him an email and perhaps we can once again enjoy CBS in HD without distorted audio.

Thanks.

Steve


__________________

If you didn't notice, HBO is due to increase to $13/month effective Nov 1. The good news is, for that $3, we will be getting HBO on Demand which will be very nice. Hopefully, the new digital boxes will be coming out about that time as well.

Originally posted by STEVENSHS
Again last night audio on WLKY DT was bad on the network portion of prime time. Local commercials were OK. This distorted audio is happening often at 32.

Had the same from WKYT (Lexington) ... There have been other reports of this around the country, so looks like it may have been a network issue.

HDC

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
If you didn't notice, HBO is due to increase to $13/month effective Nov 1. The good news is, for that $3, we will be getting HBO on Demand which will be very nice. Hopefully, the new digital boxes will be coming out about that time as well.
Cool!

I called the other day to switch from HBO to Starz so I could have the OnDemand. That's pretty neat. Had to have someone come out and check the signal strength (he said it was great) as when I first tried watching a movie it kept pausing, pixelating, etc. He made some changes to the box's setup and it's ok now.

Looking forward to going back to HBO (for the HD channel) and then OnDemand would be good.

has anyone have any new info on any new channel that insight will be geting so either HD are Digital i live in new albany but we get the Louisville
ch. i like to get same new ch. soon here like

1.Telemundo
2.Hallmark
3.Movie Plex
4.HBO Comedy East
5.HBO Comedy West
6.HBO Zone East
7.HBO Zone West
8.HBO Latino East
9.HBO Latino West
10.Thriller Max East
11.Thriller Max West
12.WMax East
13.WMax West
14.@Max East
15.@maz WEST
16.5Star Max East
17.5Star Max West
18.Outer Max East
19.Outer West
20.Nick Too East
21.Nick Too West
22.Telemundo Interacional
23.Discover En Espanol
24.Cinelation
25.CNN En Espanol
26.Toon Disney En Espanol
27.VH-UNO
28.Shop NBC
29.News World Internacional
30.Fox Movie Ch.
31.CNBC world
32.CNNfn/CNN Intnternation
33.Fine Living (just get it here)
34.Galavision (A Espanol Ch.)
35.Nasa TV
36.PBS Kids
37.PBS You
38.Shop At home
39.Word Net Work
40.Telefutra East
41.Telefutra West
42.Encorn Wam
43.TV asia
44.Zee TV
45.TV Japan
46.MBC
47.SBN
48.TFC
49.CCTV
50.C-Span 3
51.Nick Toons East
52.Nick Tonns West
53.MTV-X
54.Cine Latino
55.Showtime Next
56.Showtime Family Zone
57.Showtime Woman
58.Cinemax ON DEMAND
59.Starz on Demand (just get it here)
60.MTV-HD
61.CNN-HD
62.Starz-HD East
63.Starz! Hi Res
64.Starz! Sharper Movies HD
65.Starz! HD West
66.HBO HD West
67.SHO HD West
68.Starz On Demand HD
69.In Demand HD1
70.In Demand HD2
71.WDRB-DT (Fox 41)
72.WBNA-DT (PAX TV)
73.WBKI-DT (WB)
74.WFTE-DT (UPN)
75.Cinemax HD East
76.Cinemax HD West
77.A&E HD
78.Hallmark HD
79.WKZT-DT
80.WKMJ-DT

if you guy like same of there ch. email insight and ask for them plz :) thank for your time :)

Hi Snakez and welcome to the Louisville thread of the AVS forum. Sorry but I don't quite follow your question/comment. Can you restate your post? Are you getting these channels now via satellite? Is this a list of your favorite channels and you want to petition Insight to include them? I am hoping for more HD channels too and hopefully the 1 STB solution is coming very soon!

sry for that :) i was in a hurry ok I was asking for all that louisville members to help get these channels on Insight digital cable and there is a lot of cable company that are now doing DVR (wow) I like your help on geting Insight to get Insight DVR they need ppl to call them and reguest new ch. and DVR
and if any one knows if they are going to get any of this new stuff plz let us know

Ok I have same new info Louisville will get the new HDTV Box with DVR in December (wooooooohooooooo) and New Albany will get then late Dec./January

here a pic of the box


here the info for the box

The new Motorola DCT6000 series supports operators' plans to deliver a powerful combination of interactive and entertainment services, such as personal video recording (PVR), high-definition television (HDTV), and other processing intensive applications, to their cable customers.
Designed in response to network operator and consumer feedback, the DCT6000 platform builds on the Motorola DCT5100 and DCT5200 set-tops. With increased processing power, digital interfaces to digital television (DTV) and related consumer electronics, an integrated DOCSIS™-compatible cable modem, and features such as pausing live TV and recording programs via the electronic program guide (EPG) interface, the DCT6000 family presents operators with a single solution for PVR, HDTV, and advanced interactive applications.

The Motorola DCT6000 family of set-tops includes:
Motorola DCT6200. The DCT6200 is the next generation of Motorola's popular DCT5100 platform. Motorola has enhanced this set-top with an 800 MIPS internal processor - an upgrade of over 150 percent. Additionally, the Motorola DCT6200 includes an "Entertainment Package," which enables a direct digital connection to consumer audio and video devices via 1394-DTV and DVI interfaces.

All DCT6200 outputs (both analog and digital) are available, which facilitate consumer interaction in multiple DTV interface configurations. The DCT6200 includes an MPEG encoder, making the set-top "PVR-capable" with the addition of an external 1394 hard disk drive. These enhancements provide an even more compelling, easy-to-use, HDTV and PVR experience for the cable customer

Motorola DCT6208. The DCT6208 becomes the cable industry's first fully integrated, solution for HDTV, PVR, and advanced interactive features. Like the DCT6200, the DCT6208 offers an 800 MIPS processor and has 1394-DTV and DVI interfaces, and an internal 80 GB hard disk drive.

Designed with evolving industry standards like DOCSIS set-top gateway (DSG) in mind, the DCT6200 and DCT6208 come with a host of standard features including a DOCSIS-compatible cable modem, a smart-card reader, Ethernet and Universal Serial Bus (USB) interfaces, Y-Pb-Pr video output, S/PDIF optical and coaxial digital audio outputs, and baseband and RF audio-video I/Os.

Motorola plans to deploy the DCT6000 set-tops this summer. Additional products on the Motorola roadmap include a dual-tuner variant and "whole-home" PVR capabilities. The OCAP-capable DCT6000 platform will support a variety of applications from Motorola Horizon developer partners, including software from Concurrent Computer Corp., Gemstar-TV Guide International, Liberate, Microsoft TV, Pioneer Digital Technologies, and SeaChange International.

sounds great! I just hope New Albany gets it soon....seems like we are the last to get anything..argh! Better have firewire or I won't even waste my time. Hopefully it will though. Thanks for the info Snakez;)

That is great news about the HD PVR!

I do have a couple of questions, if anybody has the answers...

- Will the PVR be able to record encrypted channels such as HBO and Showtime?

- Will it have the capability to output the recorded shows via component and not require DVI connections?

- Can you increase storage with your own external HD (guess this would dovetail with the firewire/1394 question posed by silvermax)

- What will the cost be? Rental or purchase? How do I get on the list for the box swap?

- When will INHD be added to the lineup?

Very exciting times for HD!

-Alex-

Originally posted by bairda
- Will the PVR be able to record encrypted channels such as HBO and Showtime?

yes is will record all ch.

Originally posted by bairda
- What will the cost be? Rental or purchase? How do I get on the list for the box swap?
it should be like 9.99 or 12.99 a m ti rental.

On the INHD1 and INHD2 Insight say it going to be soon like any day now just there set it up now

here the info on the box

http://broadband.motorola.com/mso/product_information/datasheets/6200data_0604034.pdf

sry to make 3 post like this but i need to get to 5 post to give you the url :)

Thanks, Snakez!!

Anyone else notice Bravo HD was off-air for a while in the past week or so? Not that I ever watch it much.

And I wish the local stations would keep their DTV transmitters up 24/7. Right now I have to change cables running to the TV between the HD box and the regular box (which runs to the HTPC and out via RGBHV) as the 480i display on my Mits is still whacked. Have to call HHGregg again. I like to sit and watch the morning news while eating breakfast and have to get behind the TV and swap cables everyday. :(

Good news about the new STB. Snakez what is your source for this info?

I noticed Bravo being down as well. I wonder why According to Jim was not HD tonight. Also, ESPN-HD was down during Playmakers. Anyone else have these problems?

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
I wonder why According to Jim was not HD tonight.

As I understand it, the second "According to Jim" on 10/21 was originally scheduled for next week. They did not have time to finish the HD post. There may be more instances until "8 Simple Rules" returns.

HDC

Ok I get my info from a person in marketing.



Ok guy i need your help here to get some new channels I'd like you to help Me and Insight to add them. here is a phone number 357-4503 his name is greg griffith and he's the one you talk to to get new channels added to Insight lineup :) these channels they have in almost every area but ours

1.Telemundo
2.Hallmark
3.Movie Plex
4.HBO Comedy East
5.HBO Comedy West
6.HBO Zone East
7.HBO Zone West
8.HBO Latino East (Comming Soon)
9.HBO Latino West (Comming Soon)
10.Thriller Max East (I would love to get this one) Ask to get this one plz
11.Thriller Max West (I would love to get this one) Ask to get this one plz
12.WMax East (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
13.WMax West (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
14.@Max East (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
15.@Max WEST (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
16.5Star Max East (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
17.5Star Max West (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
18.Outer Max East (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
19.Outer West (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
20.Nick Too East (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
21.Nick Too West (I would love to get this one)Ask to get this one plz
22.Telemundo Interacional
23.Discover En Espanol
24.Cinelation
25.CNN En Espanol
26.Toon Disney En Espanol
27.VH-UNO
28.Shop NBC
29.News World Internacional
30.Fox Movie Ch.
31.CNBC world
32.CNNfn/CNN Intnternation
33. ...............................................
34.Galavision (A Espanol Ch.)
35.Nasa TV
36.PBS Kids (My Kids would love this one)Ask to get this one plz
37.PBS You (My kids would love this one)Ask to get this one plz
38.Shop At home
39.Word Net Work
40.Telefutra East
41.Telefutra West
42.Encorn Wam
43.TV asia
44.Zee TV
45.TV Japan
46.MBC
47.SBN
48.TFC
49.CCTV
50.C-Span 3
51.Nick Toons East ((My Kids would love this one))
52.Nick Tonns West ((MY Kids would love this one))
53.MTV-X
54.Cine Latino
55.Showtime Next
56.Showtime Family Zone
57.Showtime Woman
58.Cinemax ON DEMAND
59.Starz on Demand (get it now)
60.MTV-HD
61.CNN-HD
62.Starz-HD East
63.Starz! Hi Res
64.Starz! Sharper Movies HD
65.Starz! HD West
66.HBO HD West
67.SHO HD West
68.Starz On Demand HD
69.In Demand HD1
70.In Demand HD2
71.WDRB-DT (Fox 41)
72.WBNA-DT (PAX TV)
73.WBKI-DT (WB)
74.WFTE-DT (UPN)
75.Cinemax HD East
76.Cinemax HD West
77.A&E HD
78.Hallmark HD
79.WKZT-DT
80.WKMJ-DT

Here is same new info on HDTV and DVR
and TV Guide Interactive is only 4 day of tv listings so we will lose are 7 day guide we have now

Insight will launch enhanced video services to its Insight Digital customers, including the ongoing delivery of HDTV and Insight's new digital video recorder (DVR) service on a single box solution, beginning in December. Michael S. Willner, President and CEO, made the announcement.

"The introduction and integration of these advanced services presents an array of exciting enhancements and future opportunities on our pioneering Insight Digital service," said Willner. "As DVR and HDTV demand continue to rise, this solution will deliver even further value to our interactive platform."

In addition to HDTV and DVR services, the advanced platform will include enhanced gaming capabilities and more dynamic graphics, as well as additional capacity for future applications. Using the DCT6208, Motorola's next-generation advanced digital set-top, Insight's HDTV and DVR services will also be integrated with On Demand TV, Insight's current VOD service, and will be supported by TV Guide Interactive, marking the IPG's debut with Insight. The cost for the enhanced digital service will be $12.95 monthly, a $5.00 premium over the company's standard Digital Gateway Service.

Insight's DVR product will feature an 80 GB hard drive, providing up to 60 hours of standard definition and up to 10 hours of high-definition digital recording. It will be available in the following Insight systems: Anderson, Lafayette, Kokomo, Evansville, and Bloomington, Ind.; Louisville, Lexington, and Covington, Ky.; Columbus, Ohio; and Rockford, Peoria, Springfield, and Champaign/Urbana, Ill.




and more Here
Gemstar-TV Guide International, Inc. (NASDAQ: GMST) and Insight Communications (NASDAQ:ICCI) today announced a distribution and licensing agreement under which Insight will deploy TV Guide Interactive, the industry-leading interactive program guide (IPG). Under the agreement, Gemstar-TV Guide will provide Insight's cable systems with the most advanced version of its IPG, supporting Insight's interactive digital services platform, including its video-on-demand (VOD) service, high definition (HD) programming, and digital video recorder (DVR) functionality. Insight expects to begin deploying TV Guide Interactive to its DVR-enabled customers in time for the upcoming holiday retail season.

Concurrently, Gemstar-TV Guide and Insight agreed to extend existing commitments by Insight Communications to distribute the TV Guide Channel, which is currently carried on the majority of Insight systems. Additionally, TV Guide has agreed to provide Insight's VOD-enabled customers with TV Guide On Demand, an on-demand enhancement to the TV Guide Channel that provides viewers with a rich array of program information, previews, reviews and recommendations. Utilizing TV Guide's vast library of programming, TV Guide On Demand leverages the exclusive behind-the-scenes access and distinctive point of view that have made TV Guide television's most trusted brand for more than 50 years.

"This agreement with Insight is an important bellwether for us, demonstrating the extraordinary progress we've made in improving the quality of our products and in providing flexibility in the deal terms we offer to our cable partners," stated Ian Aaron, president, TV Guide Television Group. "Insight has long been recognized as one of the most progressive MSO's in the industry, having launched VOD, local interactive content and telephony early in the game. We are pleased that they have chosen TV Guide Interactive as an important tool for their future growth and innovation."

"This partnership represents the continued emphasis Insight places on enhancing our interactive digital platform to provide the best possible value to our customers," said Michael S. Willner, Insight's President and CEO. "The addition of TV Guide Interactive's advanced functionality, particularly in utilizing on-demand content, is absolutely the right fit as we continue to pioneer the digital customer experience."

As part of the agreement, Gemstar-TV Guide will acquire a non-exclusive license for the IPG technology of SourceSuite, LLC, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Insight Communications. In addition, Insight will have the option of integrating its interactive LocalSource information and entertainment service into TV Guide Interactive, enabling its customers to access localized news, weather and other personalized information as part of their TV Guide Interactive experience. Insight will also have access to TV Guide's listings data for use across its digital customer base. Insight's deployment of the TV Guide Interactive IPG under the agreement announced today is subject to the availability of certain enhanced set-top boxes and completion of software integration.




go here to see it http://www.insight-com.com/press/

More great news!

But only 10 hours of HD! I will definitely be anxious to hear if we can hook up an external firewire HD to extend that capacity....or dump to Digital tape....

I assume we can get on the list for new equipment now?

-Alex-

uhhh...seeing some weirdness on Insight HD tonight.

Alias is in what looks like SD and I have subtitles on the bottom and some weird text up top. like @UZJALIASHABC


WTF???


Just seems to be on ABC, CBS and KET 1. But, the ballgame on ESPN-HD looks like HD but the aspect ratio seems off for some reason...that may be just me as my daughters have been watching a lot of side-boxed 4:3 this weekend.


EDIT: FIXED

Called Insight and they had me turn off the box and then press the Menu button on the front of the box and that pulled up the diagnostic screen. Closed Captioning was on and the TV setting was set to 4:3 Pan and Scan and YPbPr output was 480p.

Youch! Fixed all that ;)

Jerry,
You probably had both boxes turned on and went into the menu of the SD box. The "keystrokes" you made went to both boxes and you changed stuff on the HD box that you didn't know you were making. That has happened to me before, too.

Anyone notice a lot of breakups on WAVE over the weekend, especially during the Breeders Cup? Confident this was a WAVE issue, as both of my sources (OTA and Insight HD) had problems.

Originally posted by cambus
Anyone notice a lot of breakups on WAVE over the weekend, especially during the Breeders Cup? Confident this was a WAVE issue, as both of my sources (OTA and Insight HD) had problems.
I did via OTA... but I'm in Lexington and attributed the issue to possibly marginal reception. However my receiver's signal meter was way above the "lock" zone necessary to receive a DTV signal (using a CM-4228 antenna and CM-7777 preamp). WKYT-DT in Lexington had a similar issue last year due to some type of drift in clocks between the local receive facility and network transmit facility. The indicator "light" that was "blinking" indicating the error condition was in the bottom of a cabinet rack, behind a swing open door. It wasn't anything a "console" operator would see unless they were looking for it. It turned out at the time that nobody at WKYT-DT was watching or monitoring their DTV signal and therefore didn't even know there was a problem.

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
Jerry,
You probably had both boxes turned on and went into the menu of the SD box. The "keystrokes" you made went to both boxes and you changed stuff on the HD box that you didn't know you were making. That has happened to me before, too.

Well, I was out of town for most of last week and had the boxes off. Turned them on and noticed the problem. I actually just powered off the HD box and physically pressed the menu button on the front of it once it was off. Didn't touch the SD box.

But, btw, is there a way to run the audio/video out from the SD box into the HD box and then to the TV?

My Mits' 480i input is still screwed up and I have to run the SD box's coax into my MyHD card and then out to the 1080i input via RGBHV. That means I have to swap the cables between that and the component cables from the HD box whenever I want to switch boxes. Getting to be a pain. Guess I just need to call HHGregg service and have the guy come out and check the TV again. He already replaced the 2HDW board and the main board.

Originally posted by ragamuffin
... but I'm in Lexington and attributed the issue to possibly marginal reception. However my receiver's signal meter was way above the "lock" zone necessary to receive a DTV signal (using a CM-4228 antenna and CM-7777 preamp).

Ragamuffin,

Do you have any overload problems from WDKY (analog) with that setup? I've been thinking about using the same rig to pull in WAVE-DT and WBKI (WFTE would be nice too :) ), but I already have trouble from WDKY with my lesser 4221 in the attic.

HDC

Originally posted by NightowlKY
But, btw, is there a way to run the audio/video out from the SD box into the HD box and then to the TV?

I asked the same question a while back. I was thinking I could upconvert material from my DVD player to 1080i through the composite video in port. The video/audio-in ports cannot be user enabled. You have to know a certain key sequence to get into other setup/service menus to be able to enable certain features of the box. :(

What was up with Monday Night Football? I know they probably nixed the HD because of the venue change, but my picture on 760 was pixelating like crazy during the game. Ended up switching to analog after a few minutes.

Originally posted by MichaelZ
Anyone else notice CSI's audio popping *again* tonight? The local commercials seemed clean so I assume it must be network feeds. I wonder if this was caused by the solar flares or is it WLKY has a crappy network feed?

Yes it did have digital distortion last night. It is a problem often with Network feed on WLKY. I always report this to WLKY chief engineer by email and he never responds. jmercer@hearst.com Please join me in emailing him and perhaps we can get some action. The locals seem to think there are so few of us out here it does not matter. Email him each and every time there is a problem. WAVE had audio dropouts and video problems all weekend. I emailed them also with no response but, it was fixed on Monday.

Originally posted by MichaelZ
Steveshs, I've sent e-mails in the past and most of the time Mr. Mercer responds. Last time the audio was bad he blamed the network feeds and I agree with him, the local commercials were distortion free but that begs the question: is it CBS's flaky feeds or WLKY's flaky receiving equipment?
Also, CBS's logo last night was way too bright - used to be somewhat transparent but it was way too noticeable last night.

Well I don't know if it is WLKY or CBS. I have tried to find an email address that might be useful for CBS and have not been able to. So since I buy CBS from WLKY I will continue to complain to the store. For the most part the local stations have not installed monitoring equipment so the station personnel can detect problems. That leaves it up to us to point out problems.

FWIW, Didn't notice any major CSI audio trouble on WKYT (Lex) last night. There were a couple of seconds where it sounded like one of the 'perps' was grinding his teeth.

HDC

It almost sounds like the "pop" an LP record would make. It happens relatively frequently, enough I switched to SD.

I e-mailed Mr. Mercer. Thanks for the e-mail address.

Just fired off an email, too.

I've been getting MAJOR video pixelization on WHAS-DT via Insight cable the last 2 days. Also some minor pixels on HBO-HD yesterday. Anyone else having this trouble? :mad:

Haven't been able to check TV since yesterday. In the middle of cleaning/rearranging most every room in my townhome and, right now, the way I have my TV seup isn't conducive to getting behind it to switch to the component cables from the HD box instead of the RGBHV cable coming out of the HTPC for the regular cable.

I did manage to bypass the MyHD card for the regular cable and am using only the ATI 8500DV. Which means, I no longer have a need for the MyHD card! Anyone want it? Not sure where the original box is but I have the dongle and the card itself...$100 and it's yours! :D

Oh...and has anyone heard from Insight as to the availability of Showtime and/or HBO On Demand (similar to the Starz On Demand package)??

And, fwiw, some pics. They're not the best but I'm not going to put too much effort into really fixing up a place I'm just renting. ;)


Shot 1
http://www.conjur.com/images/Misc/HT1.jpg

Shot 2
http://www.conjur.com/images/Misc/HT2.jpg

Shot 3
http://www.conjur.com/images/Misc/HT3.jpg

Seating area
http://www.conjur.com/images/Misc/FamRoom.jpg

Originally posted by PCS
I've been getting MAJOR video pixelization on WHAS-DT via Insight cable the last 2 days. Also some minor pixels on HBO-HD yesterday. Anyone else having this trouble? :mad:

I have. But it's been going on longer than 2 days. Last Monday night football was absolutely unwatchable it was so frequent. Strange how it's almost all on WHAS channel 760 - very rare infrequenet pixelization on the other HD channels for me.

Insight came out yesterday. They checked my signal to the house - good signal strength they said. Told me there was no way they could check the signal to the box. I'm scheduled to get a replacement HD box tomorrow (Monday). I hope that works.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
Do you have any overload problems from WDKY (analog) with that setup? I've been thinking about using the same rig to pull in WAVE-DT and WBKI (WFTE would be nice too :) ), but I already have trouble from WDKY with my lesser 4221 in the attic.
sorry for the delay in responding.. been out-of-town...

yes, I had major overload initially with the 7777 on the analogs out on the mast. I've since moved the 7777 inside and can now switch it in/out as desired. I only need it when DX'ing, otherwise it's overkill.

Originally posted by NightowlKY
Oh...and has anyone heard from Insight as to the availability of Showtime and/or HBO On Demand (similar to the Starz On Demand package)??

HBO on Demand was up Saturday night. It is all SD P&S for the movies. :(
Navigation through the various menus was painfully slow.
Other than that, it really is very nice to be able to watch something when you want. They even had some "vintage" specials/shows available to watch.

As far as Showtime On Demand, I didn't notice that on the subscription page with HBO, Starz, and Kids Unlimited.

Originally posted by ragamuffin
sorry for the delay in responding.. been out-of-town...

yes, I had major overload initially with the 7777 on the analogs out on the mast. I've since moved the 7777 inside and can now switch it in/out as desired. I only need it when DX'ing, otherwise it's overkill.

I was afraid of that ... I was thinking about leaving my attic rig as is, and add a 4228/7777 for the distants. I've got a big tree problem, so one antenna location for both Lex and Lou probably wouldn't work too well anyway.

HDC

Thanks Rick for the heads up. Let me know if your new box helps with the pixelation problem on WHAS on Insight.

Hey Jerry nice setup. Can you say more about the MYHD card and the "dongle"?

Originally posted by PCS
Thanks Rick for the heads up. Let me know if your new box helps with the pixelation problem on WHAS on Insight.

The insight tech came yesterday. He checked the signal strength at the Motorola 5100 HD box - it was OK (he couldn't explain why the previous tech said that check couldn't be done).

He installed a new 5100 and right away the pixelization on WHAS channel 760 stopped. I was very optomistic that that fixed the problem. HOWEVER....while watching MNF I started getting minor breakups - about a dozen in the 1st half of the game. By the second half the picture was totally unwatchable with massive macroblocking almost constantly.

The tech that came yesterday said that he had heard of this problem with another customer and that to fix it they had to painstakedly track/plot the output signals from the local distribution box (I don't recall the exact terms he used - this was my limited understanding of what he said).

So I'm calling Insight again today to have them persue a fix. I'll post the progress.

Anybody watching MNF last night on Insight have any picture problems?

Originally posted by PCS
Thanks Rick for the heads up. Let me know if your new box helps with the pixelation problem on WHAS on Insight.

Hey Jerry nice setup. Can you say more about the MYHD card and the "dongle"?

I'm out of town on business this week but when I get back I'll take some pics and give ya more info.

And, looks like I'll switch back to HBO as at least I'll get an extra HD channel in addition to the On Demand stuff (which is fine for the TV in the bedroom.)

Thanks for the update Rick. I haven't watched ABC since Sun so I don't know what the status of WHAS is on MNF. This will help me know if its a problem in my setup, Insight transmission or WHAS bit rate/signal. I hate to waste time emailing, calling, etc. if its not even the real problem. Good luck.

Jerry does the MYHD card have component inputs/outputs?

I had another visit from an Insight technician this evening looking into the pixelization on WHAS channel 760. He checked the signal strength to my house and the connections to the Motorola 5100 - all OK. Of course the channel wasn’t having a problem while he was here.

He called a supervisor on his Nextel who told him that they have had problems with channel 760 because WHAS had a transponder go bad a couple of weeks ago. They should be replacing it within the next week or two. The tech left and I thought that was it, I’ll probably be calling them in a couple of weeks expecting the problem to persist.

A couple of hours later I got a call from an Insight supervisor. He said he was very interested in finding the cause of the problem. He actually gave me his cell phone number and asked me to call him when I noticed the problem “even if it’s 2 a.m. in the morning”.

How’s that for customer service?

Is anyone having trouble with Wave's OTA broadcast of their HD channel? I have not had any audio the last two nights? The other networks are fine, so I'm assuming it's not a problem on my end.

John

Originally posted by dormie1360
Is anyone having trouble with Wave's OTA broadcast of their HD channel? I have not had any audio the last two nights? The other networks are fine, so I'm assuming it's not a problem on my end.

John

Lost it a couple of times Friday night did not watch Thurs. Two weeks ago I could not watch them over the weekend it kept dropping out.

Originally posted by dormie1360
Is anyone having trouble with Wave's OTA broadcast of their HD channel? I have not had any audio the last two nights? The other networks are fine, so I'm assuming it's not a problem on my end.

John

Last night Saturday Wave 3.1 OTA had many segments with no audio.

On WHAS the ABC movie was in HD until 1st commercial then was not. I called the station two times. On the second call I talked to the person in master control and was told his log said it was not in HD. He then pushed the switch and it was back in HD for most of the rest of the movie.

Please join me in calling these stations on Monday and telling them we are out here and they need to monitor there HD offerings just like there SD broadcasts.

It is Sunday and I guess WAVE has been working all night to fix there OTA problem because now there is no video on 3.1 to go along with the no audio. Is this progress?

Originally posted by STEVENSHS
Please join me in calling these stations on Monday and telling them we are out here and they need to monitor there HD offerings just like there SD broadcasts.
What number are you calling and who do you ask for?

Originally posted by Rick214
What number are you calling and who do you ask for?

Rick,

On the weekends I call the newsroom of the station. These are listed in the phone book. I ask for master control if they will not put me through I ask them to relay the message. At this point they usually connect me with master. On Monday I will call main numbers and ask for Chief Engineer and if I get blown off will call the General Manager. After that is contact the corporate HQ for the owners of the stations.

Well just to make it a perfect HD weekend in Louisville the audio on WLKY is distorted for the HD Football game.

Chief Engineer Jim Mercer jmercer@hearst.com

I'm having the same F***in' problems as the rest of you with no audio (thanks WAVE), pixelation (thanks WHAS) and low audio (thanks WLKY). This is cr*p!

OK now that I fell better, yes I can look the numbers up in the phone book but if anyone can post the collective WHAS, WAVE and WLKY numbers maybe we can all call and raise Cain about this each time it comes up. What about it Stevenshs how about posting the numbers. This needs to stop!

Yep I'm a Wild Turkey 101 over the line but dang it I've had enough of this!

Originally posted by STEVENSHS
Well just to make it a perfect HD weekend in Louisville the audio on WLKY is distorted for the HD Football game.

Chief Engineer Jim Mercer jmercer@hearst.com

WHAS 582-7840
WHAS NEWS (for nights and weekends)582-7223

WAVE 585-2201
WAVE NEWS (for nights and weekends)561-4150

WLKY 893-3671
WLKY NEWS (for nights and weekends)891-4932
Chief Engineer Jim Mercer [email]jmercer@hearst.com

All of my observations are OTA I do not have Insight Cable.

Originally posted by MichaelZ
I noticed WAVE-HD audio was still out last night so I flip to ESPN-HD and they was having technical difficulties.

I put on a DVD, ahhhhh!

Why I am paying for HD (cable) when what is being broadcast is F*&%^- up ?

Anyone find out what WAVE's problem is?

Sent email to WAVE GM have gotten no response. Jim Mercer Chief Tech. at WLKY sent me an email saying he is trying to locate there audio problem but, does not have problem at station or at home with distorted audio. He should come to my house.

Originally posted by MichaelZ
Next time I catch WLKY's distorted audio I will capture it via MyHD and send Mr. Mercer a copy so he can hear what we are hearing and hopefully fix it.


Please do. It sounds OK tonight. (so far)

I used the "Contact Us" feature on WAVE3.com to send a message to the Station General Manager. I told him that there was no audio any time that I checked on the weekend so I watched movies instead of 3rd Watch and Law and Order.

I had a message on my answering machine when I got home. Steve Langford? (General Manager) said he had recieved several messages and lit a few fires this morning. Said someone was "not payng attention"

He also said that he recieves messages on his Blackberry on the weekend and to send him a message anytime there was a problem.

I also messaged JMercer about the WLKY audio pops during the NFL games. His response was:

"I have listened repeatedly for this problem and have never heard it either
here or at home. I will continue to try to identfy the problem and find the
cure."

I offered to capture some for him. Will await his response.

Well tonight Los Vegas started in HD with sound and lost sound in first 15 seconds and was immediately switched to SD with sound. Seems like nothing has been fixed.

The picture now on MNF on Insight 760 is breaking up with macroblocking and pixelization consistently every 15-30 seconds or more. I tried calling the Insight supervisors cell phone and got a recording - left a message.

This is very annoying. Anyone else seeing this?

Well, I guess it's not just Insight:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=324168

The audio on WLKY last night was fine on CSI:Miami. No problems at all.

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
The audio on WLKY last night was fine on CSI:Miami. No problems at all.

Agree. It is not every night but, when it is bad it seems to stay that way all night.

Originally posted by STEVENSHS
Agree. It is not every night but, when it is bad it seems to stay that way all night.

Yep this follows the same pattern I've seen/heard on WKYT. Seems to happen a lot on Tuesday night (in fact last Tues was bad.) I didn't pay much attention to the Sunday NFL game this week, so I can't help there.

HDC

I e-mailed insight about HDTV and here is the response:


On December 1, 2003, Insight will be launching the Motorola 6208 All-In-One
box. The 6208 offers a fully integrated HD and DVR, along with a zippy 800
MIPS processor, 1394-DTV and DVI interfaces and an internal 80 GB hard
drive.

Great news!!...I just hope its available in New Albany

Originally posted by STEVENSHS
Sent email to WAVE GM have gotten no response. Jim Mercer Chief Tech. at WLKY sent me an email saying he is trying to locate there audio problem but, does not have problem at station or at home with distorted audio. He should come to my house.

Received a phone call from WAVE GM today saying there NBC receiver is bad and a new one is on order to clear up the Network audio problem. At the time he called Dr. Phil was on that is a local program and there was random pixilation and audio dropouts. I told him about this and he said he would have his engineering department call. They did and I told them of this problem. I guess we just wait and see.

Hope WAVE can figure something out. They had plenty of pixellation/breakup last night. And WHAS is still flaky.


Great news, Max, on the PVR box info. Wonder how big a harddrive it will take?

Originally posted by NightowlKY
Hope WAVE can figure something out. They had plenty of pixellation/breakup last night. And WHAS is still flaky.


Great news, Max, on the PVR box info. Wonder how big a harddrive it will take?

It is important that all that can report the non HD pixellation/breakup to WAVE. At this point they just have my observations as they thought there only problem was HD. Thanks all.

Originally posted by NightowlKY
Great news, Max, on the PVR box info. Wonder how big a harddrive it will take?

80 Gb.
60 hours SD capacity
10 hours HD capacity

I emailed Insight from this page: http://www.insight-com.com/contact/ to get on the list for the Motorola 6208 DVR box that's supposed to be available December 1st. Here's the reply I got back:

Dear Rick:

You're on the list! Everyone who has expressed interest in the All-In-One
box through our website will be contacted. We appreciate your patience.

Sincerely,

Karen Stokes
Insight Communications

Originally posted by Rick214
I emailed Insight from this page: http://www.insight-com.com/contact/ to get on the list for the Motorola 6208 DVR box that's supposed to be available December 1st. Here's the reply I got back:

I e-mailed Karen and told her to put me on the list!

I just called customer service and the rep told me they had a meeting on the new DVR's last week. She said everyone needed to be trained on the unit and were looking to launch March 1. WTF? I wish Insight's communication was better. I hope Steve's response is that accurate one.

Originally posted by Scott Shanks
I just called customer service and the rep told me they had a meeting on the new DVR's last week. She said everyone needed to be trained on the unit and were looking to launch March 1. WTF? I wish Insight's communication was better. I hope Steve's response is that accurate one.

I read on another thread that motorola was having firmware issues with the 6208 which will delay shipments. I hope the march launch is wrong. Why can't they get their sh** straight. It's their job for gods sake....they need to get their heads outta their a**.

Scott, she sent me that e-mail this week.

I received this e-mail response from Karen Stokes this morning. I would tend to trust her information more than a CSR's. It's just a little frustrating to get two VERY different answers to the same question, though.

Thank you for your website inquiry. We anticipate launching the All-In-One box the first week in December. Please don't worry, I added you to the contact list back in July!