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dmatch

02-21-09, 12:22 PM

Signal Qualities. Average of 30 1-second readings. About 60% is required for stable lock. Location about 20 mi. north of Little Rock. VHF=Radio Shack VU-190XR VHF/UHF combo; UHF=91XG; CM7777 preamp. All stations at least 2-edge reception.

KATV-DT (22)
2/1/09 - 2/20/09:
81% RSD=3.43

Today (2/21/09 - Light Rain):
94% RSD=5.60

Yesterday afternoon:
95% RSD=4.60

Averages for all stations 5/19/08 - 2/21/09 except otherwise noted:
5 85% RSD=2.73 (5/19/08-1/25/09)
12 98% RSD=3.06
18 74% RSD=4.02 (89 degrees off-line of antenna)
22 81% RSD=3.43 (2/01/09-2/20/09)
30 91% RSD=5.52
32 86% RSD=5.01
39 58% RSD=2.25 (5/19/08 - 7/29/08)
44 63% RSD=2.39

When 44 goes full power then maybe I can simplify and just use the RS VU-190 XR Combo and optimize for KASN-DT (39) and still get the others. The 91XG is too narrow beam to do this reliably and I just gave up on KASN-DT (39) 7/29/08.

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Arkyman

02-21-09, 01:03 PM

Excellent! Like Arkyman's report, I'm interested in what rainy wx will do to your signal strengths. Thanks for the report.

A

Allen, great work, appreciate you all getting KATV back up on OTA digital, have missed it. Right now, rainy weather, signals look like this for me

7.1 = 78-81%

4.1 = 76%

11.1 = 84-87%

16.1 = 70%

38.1 = 84%

Yeah, its strange. I think the redfield tower is around 79 miles LOS from me. When I used to have my antenna on the roof, total height was 35 feet above ground. 4,7,11, 16 and 42 were always somewhat stronger at that height while 38 was weaker. After we re-roofed the house in 2005, I moved the antenna to a pole on the ground mounted to the eave. Its right at 18 feet. 38 has always been very strong at this height. Funny thing is, none of the other channels suffer much signal loss either at this height except for 42. Hoping once 42 moves to KARK's tower and powers up, I'll get them consistently.

Allen, anytime you want to know what the sigs are doing here in Yell county, just post it or pm me. I'll be glad to give you readings anytime. I'm getting my readings from the Sony SXRD A2020's Diagnostic screen...its pretty accurate from what I can tell.

steveken

02-21-09, 04:57 PM

I am getting 7-1 just fine up here in up-state NY. LOL, just kidding, while I am here in New York around the Manchester area I am viewing it remotely. I am using Orb on my home computer, with the Hauppauge HVR-1600 that was the weak link in getting 7-1 in Vista Media Center. I saw the article on KATV's site about going full power and decided to try 7.1 on the Orb player and lo-and-behold it came in just fine. Prior to full power it wouldn't come in thru Orb at all, so its all good now. Should work in VMC now. Great work. I will report on meter readings when I get home Wednesday.

Btw, DON'T go to Niagara Falls when its cold and snowy! That damn mist HURTS when it freezes in the air and hits your face. LOL

steveken

02-21-09, 05:01 PM

allenf

02-21-09, 05:59 PM

Thanks to everyone for the detailed signal reports. I would say that remotely viewing from NY state wins the distance award.

A

Arkyman

02-21-09, 06:06 PM

LOL, commercial just now on KATV after the FL. Vandy game said that the Raycom contract requiring them to run Wednesday night games has expired and that is the reason they are showing "Lost" in its normal time slot, in HD, again. Bout damn time! :)

You wont have to worry about Raycom on any of the ARK Tv channels any longer. ESPN purchased a contarct with the SEC giving them television rights to the SEC in football and basketball. Looks like the days of watching SEC sports on Local OTA channels is over, at least for the next 10-11 years or so. The only problem I have with it is that you have to pay for ESPN in some form now just to see these games that were once aired for free. You cant just have OTA and get many college football and basketball games anymore. Kind of like when Monday Night football left ch 7/ABC and began airing on ESPN a few years back. For those of us who have grown up watching sports on "free Tv", its kind of a sad time to see so many contracts being acquired by subscription channels. I grew up in the 70's and 80's when all important sporting events including the razorbacks was carried soley on "Free Tv". Those days are just about over. I personally think the networks losing all these sports contracts will eventually be a very bad thing for them which will lead to lower overall ratings and possibly the death of many stations that have heavily depended on sports to carry them thru weekends. When NBC lost rights to the NFL's AFC package, the network took a huge blow. I seen a report once that said it almost lead to the death of NBC's weekend viewing during football season. They tried many things such as alternative sports to replace it, but to my knowledge they have still never recovered from losing the AFC contract. I read several times where they have tried to recover that contact but can no longer win the bidding war for them. They do get some things like the Superbowl and the Olympics every once in a while, but 2 events cant replace 16 weeks per year for multiple years. I'm not arguing for it or against it, I'm just saying that times have changed.

haley-SEA

02-21-09, 08:42 PM

You wont have to worry about Raycom on any of the ARK Tv channels any longer. ESPN purchased a contarct with the SEC giving them television rights to the SEC in football and basketball. Looks like the days of watching SEC sports on Local OTA channels is over, at least for the next 10-11 years or so. The only problem I have with it is that you have to pay for ESPN in some form now just to see these games that were once aired for free. You cant just have OTA and get many college football and basketball games anymore. Kind of like when Monday Night football left ch 7/ABC and began airing on ESPN a few years back. For those of us who have grown up watching sports on "free Tv", its kind of a sad time to see so many contracts being acquired by subscription channels. I grew up in the 70's and 80's when all important sporting events including the razorbacks was carried soley on "Free Tv". Those days are just about over. I personally think the networks losing all these sports contracts will eventually be a very bad thing for them which will lead to lower overall ratings and possibly the death of many stations that have heavily depended on sports to carry them thru weekends. When NBC lost rights to the NFL's AFC package, the network took a huge blow. I seen a report once that said it almost lead to the death of NBC's weekend viewing during football season. They tried many things such as alternative sports to replace it, but to my knowledge they have still never recovered from losing the AFC contract. I read several times where they have tried to recover that contact but can no longer win the bidding war for them. They do get some things like the Superbowl and the Olympics every once in a while, but 2 events cant replace 16 weeks per year for multiple years. I'm not arguing for it or against it, I'm just saying that times have changed.

The death of SEC games on OTA tv is....probably not likely. ESPN has a syndication arm called "ESPN Plus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Plus)" which produces the syndicated Big 12 basketball games (shown on KASN on weekends and KLRT-DT 16-2 during the week). There will likely be a bidding war for the ESPN-Plus syndicated SEC games. I do hope for the viewers that KARZ will get the games and not KATV.

Arkyman

02-21-09, 09:54 PM

The death of SEC games on OTA tv is....probably not likely. ESPN has a syndication arm called "ESPN Plus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Plus)" which produces the syndicated Big 12 basketball games (shown on KASN on weekends and KLRT-DT 16-2 during the week). There will likely be a bidding war for the ESPN-Plus syndicated SEC games. I do hope for the viewers that KARZ will get the games and not KATV.

I hope KARZ dont get it. I watch a lot of sports, big Ark fan and all into the SEC. Currently I dont get KARZ via OTA , I only get it on directv and the PQ is not very good. Now if 4.1 or any of the others pick it up, I'll be happy. Just as long as a second rate channel that I cant pick up dont get it. Heck, 38.1 is an Ark station, bump the Big 12 off that network and insert the SEC. I could live with that. Thats what contracts are made for anyway.......to tear up

RockyF

02-22-09, 12:17 AM

RockyF

02-22-09, 12:21 AM

I hope KARZ dont get it. I watch a lot of sports, big Ark fan and all into the SEC. Currently I dont get KARZ via OTA , I only get it on directv and the PQ is not very good. Now if 4.1 or any of the others pick it up, I'll be happy. Just as long as a second rate channel that I cant pick up dont get it. Heck, 38.1 is an Ark station, bump the Big 12 off that network and insert the SEC. I could live with that. Thats what contracts are made for anyway.......to tear up

You posted earlier that you get all the other Shinall stations OTA, I would think that once KARZ-DT is up on their new transmitter with KARK-DT you should get them as well. I'm not really a sports fan, but I would think KARZ would be a better channel for sports preemptions, considering they're a MyNetworkTV affiliate, which will mean even less than usual next season.

Balock

02-22-09, 12:59 AM

Btw, DON'T go to Niagara Falls when its cold and snowy! That damn mist HURTS when it freezes in the air and hits your face. LOL

I second that opinion! Were you there today? I was on the Canada side (been working in Toronto all week at a client's office) from around noon till 3:30pm.

Allenf, glad to hear the new antenna's up and at full power! I'll have to check it out when I get back home. I've had trouble getting to my slingbox remotely so I can't check now. The low-power signal looked much better than when you were on 42-3. I should be able to back off the pre-amp a little more now. The only station I can't reliably get in Beebe right now is KVTN...it will occasionally come in at about 54% on my dtvPal+.

Arkyman

02-22-09, 01:09 AM

You posted earlier that you get all the other Shinall stations OTA, I would think that once KARZ-DT is up on their new transmitter with KARK-DT you should get them as well. I'm not really a sports fan, but I would think KARZ would be a better channel for sports preemptions, considering they're a MyNetworkTV affiliate, which will mean even less than usual next season.

True, but I can only go by what is current and currently KARZ's ant is not on KARK's tower and who knows if it ever will be. Plans get changed all the time. I dont want to see them sign away a sports package to a channel that could not air them properly today. Now if Nexstar moves the antenna to KARK's tower and powers it up like they say they will, then I'll probably get it.

As for the ESPN contract, its 15 years and inclules Football, and both mens and womens basketball. They paid 2 Billion dollars for the contract. It ends Raycoms coverage of the SEC which had carried SEC basketball since 1986 and football since 1992.

CBS did also sign a 15 year deal to continue carrying SEC football. The only leg up that CBS has on ESPN in all of this is that CBS secured the right to pick the first game each week from the SEC slate. The rest belongs to ESPN. CBS currently has 11 years left on the NCAA tournament contract. The SEC deal is said to be the longest contract for sports that CBS has ever signed. Contract runs thru 2023 for both CBS and ESPN.

steveken

02-22-09, 09:09 AM

I second that opinion! Were you there today? I was on the Canada side (been working in Toronto all week at a client's office) from around noon till 3:30pm.
I was there Friday morning on the U.S. side from around 10am to around 12:30'ish. After that, we drove over to the Canadian side and looked around some more then hit T.G.I. Fridays. It surprised me that the exchange rate for Canada is still lower value than U.S. money. It was like 1.26 Canadian to 1 U.S. I think. I just assumed our money was worth less everywhere now. LOL

Oh, and those Canadians that check you at the border grill you like a sweet piece of steak! I swear that guy was trying to catch me in a lie. LOL I felt like saying "No, thats not my real son back there. He's really an animatronic character stuffed with explosives and we are going to blow up your casino tower." or something like that. LOL It was nuts. When I came back on the U.S. side the lady said she had been to Little Rock before trying to make it sound like I was full of it when she asked how things were there and I said they were quiet. It was kinda funny and nerve wracking on both sides. Was afraid they would screw with me for some reason. It was the first time in like 15 years I had been "out of the country".

arxaw

02-23-09, 12:12 AM

This morning, I'm seeing true 4x3 aspect ratio on KETG-DT "9-1" OTA on some show about quilting (*yawn*). Perhaps someone at AETN has seen the light ;)Some light.

They appear to have switched to OAR on the dash-1 sub channel. But today I was watching Exploring Arkansas on one of the other subs and it was 480i and 4:3, but squished so everyone looked tall & skinny. <sigh> Maybe some day they'll figure out how to get all their formats and aspect ratios right. But not yet.

On another AETN note, their reading service that used to be on analog SAP is now on the dash-4 sub channel. Screen is black and PSIP just says "DTV Program". Isn't that illegal?

haley-SEA

02-23-09, 12:29 AM

Some light.

They appear to have switched to OAR on the dash-1 sub channel. But today I was watching Exploring Arkansas on one of the other subs and it was 480i and 4:3, but squished so everyone looked tall & skinny. <sigh> Maybe some day they'll figure out how to get all their formats and aspect ratios right. But not yet.

On another AETN note, their reading service that used to be on analog SAP is now on the dash-4 sub channel. Screen is black and PSIP just says "DTV Program". Isn't that illegal?

The operative word in that last post was perhaps.

Right now I'm watching Independent Lens (OTA via KETG-DT) and the show was obviously filmed in widescreen but its shown only in upconverted 4x3 720p. Seems that AETN in doing aspect ratios are either

Being lazy so no one has to flip a swtich
Has no clue how to process HD or widescreen SD programming
Doesn't care as long as the cable co's take the channel

I guess tomorrow, they'll be back at running stretched, squished, or clipped images.

Davenlr

02-23-09, 08:35 AM

3ABN has an audio only subchannel here as well, but the PSIP says "audio channel".

Squished 16:9 my tv will handle. I can unsquish it. They just forgot to set the anamorphic flag. Stretched 4:3 I CANT handle, so better they do what they are doing now, if they cant do it right.

ORPhD

02-23-09, 09:59 AM

haley-SEA

02-23-09, 10:05 AM

Wasn't last week supposed to be the last week of pre-emption of Lost? I'm becoming more and more convinced that there will not be an episode this year I will get to ses on Wednesday. Grrrrrrr.

Lost will be seen in HD via KATV-DT, unless there is a shower in Bella Vista :rolleyes:

RockyF

02-23-09, 10:24 AM

Wasn't last week supposed to be the last week of pre-emption of Lost? I'm becoming more and more convinced that there will not be an episode this year I will get to see on Wednesday. Grrrrrrr.

EDIT: D'oh! I thought I was at the end of all the new posts when I wrote this, but I wasn't. Anyway, KATV's website (and Yahoo's listings) are both still showing SEC basketball for Wednesday.

I use Zap2It for listings, and it has now been updated to show Lost on at it's correct time. The print TVWeek from the Demo-Zette also shows it. The KATV website only shows last weeks listings when I click on the Wednesday tab. When I e-mailed former program director Richard Farrester back in January he said the last pre-emption was going to be the 18th. I guess I'm just saying all that to say that as of right now, it appears that we will finally get our correct time and HD Lost starting this Wednesday.

On a related note, I just briefly checked during the Oscars last night, and it appears that we still do not have 5.1 surround sound from KATV-DT yet. :(

arxaw

02-23-09, 10:49 AM

...Seems that AETN in doing aspect ratios are either

Being lazy so no one has to flip a swtich
Has no clue how to process HD or widescreen SD programming
Doesn't care as long as the cable co's take the channel

I guess tomorrow, they'll be back at running stretched, squished, or clipped images.
They seemed to have fixed the dash-1 720p channel,
but apparently don't have a clue about how to handle anamorphic format programming on their 480i channels.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2j30177.jpg
:rolleyes:

EDIT: Maybe the producers of some of AETN's locally produced programming can get them to fix the format problem. For the above program, contact:
exploringarkansas@aetn.org

ORPhD

02-23-09, 11:00 AM

Weird. Everything is back to normal now. It definitely had the 2/25 date when I checked earlier this morning, but oh well. All is good now; I'll just have to do a refresh of my EPG data from Yahoo tonight. Breathing returning to normal.

02Crewman

02-23-09, 11:48 AM

Did anyone else catch the green screen on KLRT last night at 9pm? Was watching final laps of NASCAR race when (boom) green screen and silence, then you hear some rattling followed by (paraphrased) "Are we off the air? Is that green screen us or Ch 13, Are we off, I know I bet its 9'o" (boom) picture returns. Pretty funny behind the scenes audio.

haley-SEA

02-23-09, 12:29 PM

CorpITGuy

02-23-09, 04:35 PM

dmatch

02-23-09, 04:44 PM

Slightly off-topic: Does anyone know if there any chance we're going to catch at St. Louis baseball OTA in our market this year?

I was disappointed to see that most of the pre-season games are purchased out-of-market and not carried by FS-Midwest.This still lists KWBF as an Arkansas affiliate for the Cardinals. So far KARZ has picked up where KWBF left off so we can only hope that Cardinal baseball follows suit.

http://mlb.mlb.com/stl/schedule/tv_radio_affiliates.jsp

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CorpITGuy

02-23-09, 04:45 PM

This still lists KWBF as an Arkansas affiliate for the Cardinals. So far KARZ has picked up where KWBF left off so we can only hope that Cardinal baseball follows suit.

http://mlb.mlb.com/stl/schedule/tv_radio_affiliates.jsp

dmatch

Thanks for that link!!!

How many games do they normally pick up?

dmatch

02-23-09, 04:54 PM

Typically, they have Sunday games. KWBF would show Cardinal baseball when KSDK showed it. This may help:

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/schedule/sortable.jsp?c_id=stl

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Davenlr

02-23-09, 05:33 PM

That Green Screen on KLRT was funny, but the MCO's in the backgrund trying to fix it was hilarious.

Davenlr

02-23-09, 06:08 PM

Been emailing back and forth with AETN, and they are trying to get Directv to put KAFT HD on the Little Rock spot, but Directv says its not possible. Im trying (with no luck so far) to get someone at Directv to address this. If anyone here has a minute, how about firing off an email to Directv and ask them to look into this.

Poor guys at AETN are running into a brick wall, and could use some help (including emails to KATV about not giving up Ch 7, and Sen Pryor for starting this whole mess.

Dr_Jan_Itor

02-23-09, 06:38 PM

Welcome To MOteL 7. We'll leave the analog on for ya.

RockyF

02-23-09, 07:25 PM

I just sent a note to KATV through their website, we'll see if I got a response. I did just have a funny thought though, one of the departments available through their "Contact Us" area is 7 On Your Side. Should we all send notes asking for 7 On Your Side to investigate KATV depriving Central Arkansas viewers of PBS? :)

arxaw

02-23-09, 07:29 PM

Welcome To MOteL 7. We'll leave the analog on for ya.EL -Oh- EL :)

arxaw

02-23-09, 08:21 PM

...Poor guys at AETN are running into a brick wall, and could use some help (including emails to KATV about not giving up Ch 7, and Sen Pryor for starting this whole mess.) DirecTV could easily duplicate KAFT-DT on the LR MPEG4 HD spot beam, since it's already being uplinked/downlinked to NWA D* subscribers. You're wasting your time with katv & that pryor clown.

On the bright side, AETN is a mess right now and not really worth watching, so you're not missing much. Hopefully, somebody there will take a course in Aspect Ratios for dummies before they get y'all's beloved KETS-DT back on the air.

Davenlr

02-23-09, 08:50 PM

Well, they are working on that. Im suspecting its a combination of upper management, and trying to use old 4:3 analog equipment to run a 16:9 HD station. KTWN-2 has correct AR now, or at least close (its pillarboxed and letterboxed for widescreen).

I MANAGED to get a email explaining the problem to Directv engineering. Assuming they have a HD spot available here, it should be pretty easy. I dont know if they could feed KAFT-HD on KETS-SD's spot or not (probably from a different uplink center).

haley-SEA

02-24-09, 08:11 AM

DirecTV could easily duplicate KAFT-DT on the LR MPEG4 HD spot beam, since it's already being uplinked/downlinked to NWA D* subscribers. You're wasting your time with katv & that pryor clown.

On the bright side, AETN is a mess right now and not really worth watching, so you're not missing much. Hopefully, somebody there will take a course in Aspect Ratios for dummies before they get y'all's beloved KETS-DT back on the air.

Oh brother....this morning I checked KETG-DT and its sooo fubared. Its yet another picture mode I've never seen---zoomed OUT. Yes, its a zoomed out picture a postage stamp within a postage stamp. Going to "cropped" mode on the Zenith box only brings the picture to normal uncropped mode on real tv stations. Now the puny signal drops..... *sigh*

(on analog KETG its a postage stamp effect also....wonder if they are getting many complaints from that).

Trip in VA

02-24-09, 09:24 AM

Oh brother....this morning I checked KETG-DT and its sooo fubared. Its yet another picture mode I've never seen---zoomed OUT. Yes, its a zoomed out picture a postage stamp within a postage stamp. Going to "cropped" mode on the Zenith box only brings the picture to normal uncropped mode on real tv stations. Now the puny signal drops..... *sigh*

(on analog KETG its a postage stamp effect also....wonder if they are getting many complaints from that).

If it's something you've never seen, you haven't seen any non-AETN PBS stations lately. Many of them look like this now. PBS only provides its programming in HD, so stations have to acquire it as such and because PBS-HD shows aren't 4x3 safe, any that can't record HD content are showing SD content sent to them on the HD feeds (which is most of it now) postage stamped like that. I know it's what both WHTJ and WBRA in my area are doing on their analogs and HD feeds.

As stupid as it sounds, I think AETN has finally got it right with this.

- Trip

Davenlr

02-24-09, 09:30 AM

Trip in VA

02-24-09, 09:33 AM

So they turned off the SD sat feeds? I havent checked lately, as I watch the HD ones.

World, Create, V-Me, and a few feeds are still in SD, but the primary feeds of first-run PBS programming are now HD only.

- Trip

dmatch

02-24-09, 11:11 AM

What Trip said.

PBS dropped a mux on AMC21. I believe it was the 12120 mux. Later this year or early next year the others will probably disappear as they go to the NGIS using DVB-S2/IP.

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haley-SEA

02-24-09, 11:43 AM

If it's something you've never seen, you haven't seen any non-AETN PBS stations lately. Many of them look like this now. PBS only provides its programming in HD, so stations have to acquire it as such and because PBS-HD shows aren't 4x3 safe, any that can't record HD content are showing SD content sent to them on the HD feeds (which is most of it now) postage stamped like that. I know it's what both WHTJ and WBRA in my area are doing on their analogs and HD feeds.

As stupid as it sounds, I think AETN has finally got it right with this.

- Trip

I was watching WMAO-DT (Miss Public Broadcasting) yesterday morning....no strange video issues. They do "HD" on 23-2 (720p), an exact copy of 23-1 except 23-1 is SD 480i. 23-3 (Create, etc) is 480i. 4x3 shows on 23-2 are shown correctly, not cropped, sliced, or diced.

The LPB stations are low power and too weak to see here unless there is major tropo.

I really hope the bugs get worked out before KETS/KETZ go live OTA again.

Davenlr

02-24-09, 06:07 PM

I jusr rescanned AMC21, and it appears there are PBS HD East, PBS HD West, PBS HD feeds, and the following SD: World, Create, Spanish, two schedule channels, one affiliate uplink, PBS Montana, and a couple SD feeds. So, all the programs are available here and there in SD, but two main channels are HD.

As long as they dont drop HD East from sat, Ill be happy.

dmatch

02-24-09, 06:47 PM

A :( may be in your future.

I could be wrong but I don't see why they would need to leave anything for us to see on AMC21 (MPEG/DVB) on BUD satellite after they start the NGIS.

In any event, you can probably :) for about another year.

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Davenlr

02-24-09, 07:07 PM

When they transitioned from C Band analog, to digicipher, they left one analog PBS up for BUD users (pbs-x), so hopefully they will do the same for PBS HD. If not, Ill just have to start bugging the living hell out of everyone I can find a number for, until they get it right. A year should be enough for AETN to buy a HD time shift box, or the new system should allow them to show Nova in HD.

KeithAR2002

02-24-09, 08:48 PM

I was watching WMAO-DT (Miss Public Broadcasting) yesterday morning....no strange video issues. They do "HD" on 23-2 (720p), an exact copy of 23-1 except 23-1 is SD 480i. 23-3 (Create, etc) is 480i. 4x3 shows on 23-2 are shown correctly, not cropped, sliced, or diced.

Actually, I think MPB is in 1080i.... or at least it is on WMPN 29-2.... both TVs in my apartment and my OnAir GT tuner displays 29-2 as 1080i. I don't see why it wouldn't be the same across the network.

Davenlr

02-25-09, 05:54 PM

Drove by Redfield today, and there is what appears to be a UHF antenna thats been mounted on the side of the tower BELOW the new ch 7 array (hard to tell at that height without binoculars).

TRIP: Has KETS filed anything with the fcc for temporary digital?

Trip in VA

02-25-09, 06:02 PM

steveken

02-25-09, 06:06 PM

Well, back home from NY. Have to say, it's VERY nice to see KATV in the digital signal meter of VMC showing FULL strength. Makes watching it with both tuners much easier.

Now, gotta figure out what to do about the problem child of KARK. I still get only 4 of 6 bars on KARK for some reason. No matter how I turn the antenna it seems. At least it's watchable. KARZ is only 5 of 6, but still is good and watchable (so glad they got rid of the stretch-o-vision).

Davenlr

02-25-09, 06:34 PM

Now if KARK would turn the center channel on for NBC nightly news, I could hear what Brian Williams was saying, rather than the weird echo and music Im hearing now.

obuengineer

02-25-09, 08:32 PM

Trying to pick up KATV tonight with no luck. .anyone else able to recieve? are they still broadcasting low power from chenal? i'm in north little rock up high in park hill. i should be able to get it

obuengineer

02-25-09, 08:56 PM

i rescanned for channels and now it's working just fine.

arxaw

02-25-09, 09:07 PM

Now if KARK would turn the center channel on for NBC nightly news, I could hear what Brian Williams was saying, rather than the weird echo and music Im hearing now.KNWA, the badly run nexstar NBC affilate in NWA (their switching is done in LR at KARK), has had that weird echo for over a year, now. No center channel and audio echoing and slightly off center to the right. ACK!

Good luck getting them to fix it. But hey, maybe if they fix KARK, they'll fix KNWA...

Trying to pick up KATV tonight with no luck. .anyone else able to recieve? are they still broadcasting low power from chenal?They're full power from Shinall Mtn.

steveken

02-25-09, 09:18 PM

i rescanned for channels and now it's working just fine.
See what happens when you ignore us and don't come around here often? :)

Davenlr

02-25-09, 09:25 PM

KARK finally realized there was no sound and switched to the SD feed after about 10 minutes.
TRIED several times to flip back to HD, but no sound. Went to bed, so dont know if they got it fixed for primetime or not.

steveken

02-25-09, 11:22 PM

Dave, you asked about shuttle launch dates. Here is something I came across just now. That might help.

EDIT: LOL, I just now realized I never put the link in. LOL http://www.space.gs/shuttle/index.html

dmatch

02-26-09, 08:56 PM

Looks like the LR forum has a little of the DTV transition delay blues today.:(

I know I do. I was looking forward to finalizing my antenna setups and getting on with fine-tuning everything. I can still probably do some things in that regard once KARZ gets into their final configuration.

Any news on when KARZ might go full power?

Seems like it was to be about now, if I recall correctly, but what with all the bru ha ha over the KATV blockage of KETS-DT lately things might have changed and I wouldn't have picked up on it.

Also, any news on that UFO on the KASN tower that davenlr saw?

dmatch

haley-SEA

02-26-09, 09:10 PM

Davenlr

02-26-09, 09:23 PM

When they dissed KETS-DT, I removed all the programs I had my dvr recording from them, and if I *must* watch something on ABC, I watch it on WPRU from Puerto rico, or the ABC HD feed. Channel "7" isnt even in my guide. Ill check it if Allenf needs info or help, but thats it. They dont exist otherwise.

edit: I just ordered a Winegard VHF hi log/yagi combo antenna. Im getting a 12% on KEMV-DT on the quantum, but its rated deepest fringe uhf/suburban vhf. I thought Id replace it with a good solid 12dbd gain antenna, with a 75 ohm balun-less feed, and see if I can snag Mountain View in glorious whatever they are transmitting.

That and the current Televes for UHF should have me set.

mattm1001

02-26-09, 10:59 PM

The new antenna that was spotted on the KASN tower is the new channel 7 antenna, located below the antenna for KHLR 94.9, an 8 bay FM antenna.

Balock

02-27-09, 12:17 AM

Made it back from Toronto last night and checked KATV this morning on the DTVpal+. Looks good and is running a solid 95-98% on the quality meter, putting it in a tie with KLRT. A little pixelization on KTHV right now, but that's probably due to the stormy weather...quality is still around 80-85%.

I tried sending an e-mail to Dale Nicholson through the KATV website last week but never received a confirmation or reply, so I don't know if it actually was delivered or not. Even with their problems, I do like to watch AETN occasionally. Too bad Raymond Ho isn't around there anymore. It was worth watching back then.

Too bad the FCC and the current administration didn't handle the extension a better way, say by having stations request an extension up to June with a concrete justification and impact assessment. Ahh, the wonders of hindsight :o

Davenlr

02-27-09, 12:43 AM

The new antenna that was spotted on the KASN tower is the new channel 7 antenna, located below the antenna for KHLR 94.9, an 8 bay FM antenna.

Thanks Matt, didnt know there was an FM up there.

haley-SEA

02-27-09, 07:16 AM

Thanks Matt, didnt know there was an FM up there.

Yes, that's why KHLR's IBOC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio) ("hd radio") decodes so well down here due to its location.

KHLR used to have a COL of Pine Bluff, but its transmitter location has been unchanged since 1987 when the former KZLR 94.9 (later changing to KOLL-Cool 95 1989, and Mix 94.9 2003) went live from the then KJTM (now KASN) tower.

Before KZLR went live, it was off the air for over a year in early 1986-1987 because its new owners that purchased the former KADL-FM 94.9 Pine Bluff deemed it was unfit to broadcast due to technical issues, and started the FM from scratch. KZLR had an AM simulcast on 1270 in Pine Bluff from 1987-to late 1988 when KZLR's owners sold the AM. The TX for the AM and pre-1987 FM was across the highway from Pine Bluff'spresent-day Walmart (US 63/former AR15 South). The AM station went silent a few years ago, and the old AM tower went down soon after, but the TX building and STL tower remained a few more years.

Oh, the original KJTM (KASN) studios in Pine Bluff were next door to the KZLR Pine Bluff offices (yes the old KZ95had a Pine Bluff office) on 29th. The original KJTM STL tower was purchased moved to the Entergy (AP&L) complex on 28th after KASN moved the station to Little Rock. I was working in the PB area at this time for a A/C contractor and we did several repairs to the radio station's AC systems.

useless trivia in the mornin' :D

haley-SEA

02-27-09, 07:42 AM

Even with their problems, I do like to watch AETN occasionally. Too bad Raymond Ho isn't around there anymore. It was worth watching back then.

I'm glad someone else remembers Raymond Ho. He did more for AETN the three years (1983-1986) he was there than any director before or since. He also caught hell for being a bit daring and out of the box in the programming department. Ho wanted to put in a 5th transmitter in the Monticello area but that was never realized. (more useless triva: )The current AETN logo dates back to the Ho era.

CorpITGuy

02-27-09, 08:24 AM

KATV decided to drop to SD during the final 10 minutes of Ugly Betty because of a thunderstorm warning for counties outside the Little Rock DMA in NWA (KHBS/KHOG country).

Greys has started in SD and will likely remain so because of the arrogance of the Nicholson Gang. All that money for that fancy tower/antenna and nothing budgeted for even 5.1 audio much less HD graphics for storm warnings....

KLRT did the same thing with American Idol. I was asleep on the couch (as I frequently am during that awful show) and my wife woke me up to ask me why the screen "just went small". They switched to 4:3 SD to show that stupid graphic.

haley-SEA

02-27-09, 08:35 AM

KLRT did the same thing with American Idol. I was asleep on the couch (as I frequently am during that awful show) and my wife woke me up to ask me why the screen "just went small". They switched to 4:3 SD to show that stupid graphic.

I didn't know American Idol was on Thursdays also...

I'm no fan of Grays, so went over to The Office (KARK-DT OTA). Storm graphic on but KARK was still able to maintain HD video for the NBC show. When The Office went off, turned the TV off and went online :D

CorpITGuy

02-27-09, 09:17 AM

I didn't know American Idol was on Thursdays also...

I think it got pushed back due to the President's address on Tuesday evening.

RockyF

02-27-09, 09:31 AM

I didn't know American Idol was on Thursdays also...

I'm no fan of Grays, so went over to The Office (KARK-DT OTA). Storm graphic on but KARK was still able to maintain HD video for the NBC show. When The Office went off, turned the TV off and went online :D

Then you missed 30 Rock, the funniest show on TV. :eek:

Davenlr

02-27-09, 06:34 PM

Why is KARK running DTV crawls telling people if they have an analog TV they will need a converter box? Only someone who has no need for the info would ever see it.

steveken

02-27-09, 06:41 PM

Why is KARK running DTV crawls telling people if they have an analog TV they will need a converter box? Only someone who has no need for the info would ever see it.
Good question. I mean, they are still off the air on analog, aren't they? *scratching head wondering what the hell they are doing there* lol

Davenlr

02-27-09, 06:47 PM

No, they arent. If they were, it would make sense, but since they arent, the only people who see the crawl are the ones who are already using digital, on cable, or sat.

dmatch

02-27-09, 06:55 PM

There is a chance, however slim, that someone who needs to know might see it at a friend's house or be told by a friend what is going on. If they include the bit about not needing to do anything if on cable/satellite then that could help reassure cable/satellite users.

That's the only reasons I can think of other than ineptitude.

dmatch

Davenlr

02-28-09, 09:40 PM

Got my YA-1713 Long Yagi VHF antenna in today...Right about the time it started to SNOW.....Guess Ill try to get it up tomorrow if the SNOW melts. Go figure.

steveken

03-01-09, 12:10 AM

Got my YA-1713 Long Yagi VHF antenna in today...Right about the time it started to SNOW.....Guess Ill try to get it up tomorrow if the SNOW melts. Go figure.
The snow will be gone by in the morning probably. We just aren't that lucky to have snow like I saw in NY last week.

Arkyman

03-01-09, 01:22 AM

The snow will be gone by in the morning probably. We just aren't that lucky to have snow like I saw in NY last week.

Bet those New Yorkers would disagree about being lucky and having snow.

RF Monkey

03-01-09, 06:17 AM

The crawls are auditted my the FCC quarterly. You will see them run all the way through the first quarter.

Davenlr

03-01-09, 07:43 AM

Once again, the Government thinking they know whats best for everyone. Geeze.

RockyF

03-01-09, 09:59 AM

The crawls are auditted my the FCC quarterly. You will see them run all the way through the first quarter.

Seriously!:eek: The FCC is making stations who have already converted to digital continue to warn people about the transition, when the only people who can see the station are folks who are ready? That's our government at work. :rolleyes:

MilSF1

03-01-09, 10:56 AM

Quick question to those out there on E*. The address check is now showing KLRT as being HD:

LITTLE ROCK FOX-KLRT HD 16 5193

Anyone verify?

-MDG

mattm1001

03-01-09, 11:45 AM

It may be uplinked in HD on Dish but it's not showing up in the guide.

Davenlr

03-01-09, 12:09 PM

Well, I found out that my Quantum's VHF hi band section has the same exact gain as the Winegard YA-1713. KEMV was 12% on the quantum, and after putting the Winegard in the same spot, I get... 12%. Looks like I wont be watching KEMV. Was worth a try though. Anyone have a 100' tower for sale cheap?

skipken

03-01-09, 12:40 PM

Quick question to those out there on E*. The address check is now showing KLRT as being HD:

LITTLE ROCK FOX-KLRT HD 16 5193

Anyone verify?

-MDG

I had DishNetwork HD locals installed 10 days ago. They replaced my dish pointed at 110-119-129 with one pointed at 61-XX-77. (XX means I forgot the number. somewhere between 61 and 77.) KARK, KATV and KTHV are in HD. KLRT, KASN and KARZ are not. KKYK shows up on the guide as "Off Air," and the screen is blank. I lost AETN altogether!

On the old dish I was getting an AETN feed from somewhere, probably from KAFT. With the new dish I get a program schedule for channel 2, but the screen is blank. Then on Friday, audio showed up on channel 2, but no picture. However, every time I tune the receiver to channel 2, the receiver locks up and has to go through a re-boot before I can watch ANYTHING!!

Dish and its technicians are no help. I guess I will watch the national feed of PBS on 249 until June 18th.

Dr_Jan_Itor

03-01-09, 03:41 PM

Quote of the Day from Nascar Driver Carl Edwards: "We weren't cheating. We just got caught with a part that wasn't right!"

Davenlr

03-01-09, 06:18 PM

Here is the DX antenna setup Im using until Spring, when Im going to mount a 15' tripod on the roof, and get these things up a little higher. Top antenna is a Televes DAT75 UHF (12-15db) and Winegard YA1713 VHF-hi, both feeding a Channel Master 7777:
http://i38.tinypic.com/33xvw3m.jpg

Any of you antenna guys/engineers... if Im getting a signal, but not enough to lock, on a digital...Would adding 2.5 DB gain (I.E. Stacking two YA1713's) do it, or am I just SOL? FWIW, I can get analog 6 from Mountain View real well, but apparently the LOW POWER they are running on their digital on Ch 13, its just not making the trip.

steveken

03-01-09, 09:44 PM

Woo hoo! I get to turn DirecTV back on tomorrow! :) Why am I so excited? I guess cause I finally get to see MLB Network, Cartoon Network HD, and maybe anything else they have added. Have they put up any new HD channels lately? AT&T put up stuff like G4 HD, E! HD I think, and maybe a couple others. Just wondered if anyone knew. Also, kinda having a hard time remembering what transponders we are supposed to get on 99 and 103 down here. Guess it doesn't matter that much.

Davenlr

03-01-09, 09:55 PM

KTWN and Equity (ch 36) better be careful: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29403355/

Steveken: Nothing new on DirecTv at all. Guess they are waiting for everyone to catch up. At least they arent degrading the signal by overcompression. Nothing really stellar available they dont have.

arxaw

03-01-09, 10:05 PM

Here is the DX antenna setup Im using until Spring...
I can get analog 6 from Mountain View real well, but apparently the LOW POWER they are running on their digital on Ch 13, its just not making the trip.(Nice rig.)

KEMV has applied to either triple or quadruple the ERP on ch 13. Not sure which - FCC site is FUBAR'd at the moment.

KTWN and Equity (ch 36) better be careful: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29403355/Just curious, what specifically is Equity doing with DirecTV's signal?

Davenlr

03-01-09, 10:13 PM

(Nice rig.)

KEMV has applied to either triple or quadruple the ERP on ch 13. Not sure which - FCC site is FUBAR'd at the moment.

Just curious, what specifically is Equity doing with DirecTV's signal?

If they triple the signal, Ill get it. Right now I am getting KETG at 16%, and KEMV at 12%. KTVH, my skip test, was at 0% earlier, and is at 60% now, so the signals on channel 13 are remaining stable, and must be groundwave.
The FCC site shows their -36dbm plot line running from Jacksonville across to Maumelle, with the power increase. I can already receive signals tvfool lists at -85, so that should solve my problems if they ever do it.

Dont know they are still doing it, but they were using a Directv receiver to receive TBN or whatever it is they transmit on channel 36 analog. Which is stupid, since the same channel was/is available on C and KU band unscrambled.

dmatch

03-01-09, 11:16 PM

For those like myself, who have developed a grudge against KATV-DT regarding their clogging up channel 7 with their snowy analog garbage, they currently are in violation of FCC regulations regarding PSIP data (No EPG data). Perhaps a complaint to the FCC is in order. It probably wouldn't do any good since FCC (For Corporations Commission) mostly seems to just ignore individuals, but it might make me feel a little better.

BTW, KARK-DT is also in violation (non-specific EPG data).

dmatch

allenf

03-01-09, 11:28 PM

Psip is one of engineering's responsibilties. If you see an issue email me.

A

Davenlr

03-01-09, 11:30 PM

While I detest KATV's management for their decisions, I really would hesitate to complain about them to the FCC, since Allenf, their engineer and forum member here would be the one to get the hammer, and the engineering dept, isnt really involved, as far as I know, in the decision to keep PBS off the air. Allen has always been very straightforward in dealing with any problems, as has RFmonkey at KARK. Im sure they will fix it once they read your post.

Now, if there was some way to get Nicholson fined, or out on the street on his butt, Id be all ears. I have spent so much money trying to get my favorite PBS programs. Then they move the satellite behind a tree where my dish cant see it, then turn off their transmitter, then KATV screws up the new one, now even after buying a new antenna, I cant get Mountain View or Gurdon because the power is SO much lower than the analogs, which I can get. Its amazing, in the 21st century, I cant even get a National network station in HD, in the largest market in the state.

haley-SEA

03-02-09, 08:11 AM

Dave,

AETN is in fundraising mode again which means no HD programming and the usual "special" programming/on-air begging. I did notice on KETG 9-2 is preempting Create/AETN Kids for a one-day delay of previous night's programming (including the beggin') is presented in proper 4x3 format instead of the cropped 16x9 that 9-1 is doing in real time. Celtic Woman (yet again) was their big thing last night (9-2 was showing some concert show with some 60's top 40 fare, 9-3 was usual Educationl/Instructional fare, and 9-4 Radio Reading). Needless to say, I didn't watch.

I think most of the PBS stations do fundraising in March, I might check and see if WMAO makes it over the ridge tonight (hopefully)

steveken

03-02-09, 09:52 AM

dmatch

03-02-09, 10:19 AM

Psip is one of engineering's responsibilties. If you see an issue email me.

AAlright Allen, I guess they'll get a bye on this one, but only because of your involvement. ;)

BTW, the guide is still blank, NO EIT (EPG) at all and I don't know your e-mail address.

dmatch

Balock

03-02-09, 10:55 AM

Allen, I also am not seeing guide data for KATV-HD or KATV-SD. Attached is a screenshot through my Slingbox connection from just a few minutes ago.

I'm currently in Melbourne, Australia...does this count for your longest DX reception? :D

RF Monkey

03-02-09, 11:45 AM

PSIP for KARK is back to speed....Bill Gates burpped this weekend

dmatch

03-02-09, 12:07 PM

Thanks RF Monkey. With Bill Gates involved these type things are probably going to be an ongoing affair.:rolleyes:

Any idea when KARZ-DT will go to full power?

dmatch

Balock

03-03-09, 06:18 AM

I'm seeing guide data for KATV now as well as KARK. Good job, Allenf and RF Monkey!

CorpITGuy

03-03-09, 11:07 AM

Does anyone know if KARK plans to go without a sub-channel permanently? It sure is nice to watch bandwidth-plentiful 1080i HD. When Leno's variety show starts up we'll be recording every episode (so long as it's good, of course) and I'm hoping it looks as good as Leno's show does right now. Golf on Sunday afternoons looks great as well.

I'll watch paint dry or plants grow in HD before I'll watch most SD programming. :D

RockyF

03-03-09, 11:24 AM

RF Monkey stated on here a while back that Nexstar policy is no sub-channels, meaning no subchannels for KARK-DT or KARZ-DT. Who knows how long that will last, but for the time being it's good news.

steveken

03-03-09, 01:00 PM

I'm still trying to figure something out with regard to KARK. If KARK really IS full power on its digital transmitter now, then why is it that it is the ONLY channel I do NOT get at full signal strength on my VMC meter? Well, with the exception of KARZ anyway. EVERY single other digital channel that I pick up is full 6 bars on Vista Media Center, but KARK and KARZ are both 4 of 6 bars. That just doesn't make sense to me if they are really running full power. Hmm, oh well.

steveken

03-03-09, 03:20 PM

In case anyone is interested, the final 9 launches of the Shuttle are scheduled as per this page:

http://www.space.gs/shuttle/index.html

steveken

03-03-09, 03:33 PM

Hmm, for some reason I am not seeing dmatch's response to me. Guess he must have deleted it after I got the email.

My guess is antenna. On a full-fledged outdoor VHF/UHF antenna it probably would be, if not your best signal quality, one of the best, providing the signal level wasn't too high.

Here, where I am (20+ miles) with 2 edge reception, it is the highest signal quality I get from a VHF/UHF antenna.

dmatch
To answer your thoughts, its not the antenna because I have a great outdoor antenna considering my location (less than 3 miles max from the mountain). Its outdoors, its up pretty high, its locking everything else really strong except KARK and KARZ. The only thing I can figure is the way they have their antenna set up on the tower right now, the signal is simply flying over me. If I didn't get everything else really strong, I wouldn't wonder, but since I am, I am. :) Oh well, as long as it locks in stable enough to record, I don't guess I care too much. Just would like to see it higher.

CorpITGuy

03-03-09, 04:19 PM

I've learned that UHF/VHF can be funny that way. Depending on which antenna I use and how it is configured, here in Benton I'll sometimes get KARK, KATV or KLRT the strongest... just depending. It's odd. Since they're in the same spot, you wouldn't expect it to matter.

steveken

03-03-09, 04:27 PM

I have never had KARK come in all the way strong. I have moved it and moved it and moved it since its been outside and have never had it peek to 100%. I think I had it in the 90's one time while it was inside of all places. :)

Davenlr

03-03-09, 06:13 PM

Ask RF Monkey what type beam tilt (if any) they are using. Given a full power signal, if the antenna does not employ any beam tilt, the signal will basically HIT the ground at the point a pair of binoculars mounted on the top of the tower would...There is actually a "cone of silence" around the bottom of the tower extending outwards several miles, on an antenna with no beam tilt. The problem with employing beam tilt, if Im not mistaken, is that it takes signal away from the horizon to fill in gaps in the cone of silence, hence, the grade B area is decreased to provide a better S/N in the grade A area. Its possible, KARK doesnt employ any, hence your less than full scale reading, but at the same time, causing someone on the fringe to be able to pick it up better.

I believe KATV is employing beam tilt, as well as fill in vertical polarity. If you look at antenna polar patterns, and check the vertical plane, your find a -3 db point at about 10 degrees elevation. Since Shinall is probably well over that at your distance, you are probably losing at least 6 db if your antenna is horozontal. I use about a +5 degree tilt on my Televes, which really improves Shinall stations. It also helped with my DX, since the surrounding hills are all about 5 degrees higher than my house, so instead of pointing right at the ground on the side of the hill, the antenna is pointed at the trees on top (at about 2 miles range). Helps immensely. If your talking about your flat panel antenna, I dont think the beam tilt stuff counts, as its pretty much an onmidirectional antenna to begin with.

dmatch

03-03-09, 07:37 PM

Hmm, for some reason I am not seeing dmatch's response to me. Guess he must have deleted it after I got the email.

To answer your thoughts, its not the antenna because I have a great outdoor antenna considering my location (less than 3 miles max from the mountain)....That's why I deleted it. Upon further thought I really didn't have any good guess as to why.

dmatch

dmatch

03-03-09, 07:49 PM

AETN is gone from KTWN-LD2 and has been replaced with color bars.

Oh well, it is beg-a-thon time anyway and quite frankly if they can't come up with, or don't care to come up with, some way to deliver OTA programming to central AR then I certainly don't feel the desire to donate.

dmatch

steveken

03-03-09, 08:29 PM

That's why I deleted it. Upon further thought I really didn't have any good guess as to why.

dmatch
Hehehe, ok. Sorry. :)

steveken

03-03-09, 08:31 PM

arxaw

03-03-09, 10:24 PM

RF Monkey stated on here a while back that Nexstar policy is no sub-channels...Nexstar uses sub channels in NWA to extend coverage of two sister stations.
KFTA-DT 24-1 is FOX HD
KFTA-DT 24-2 is KNWA NBC SD

KNWA-DT 51-1 is NBC HD
KNWA-DT 51-2 is sister station KFTA FOX SD

But in Springfield, Nexstar doesn't do any sub channels on;
KOLR-DT CBS
KSFX-DT FOX

Davenlr

03-03-09, 10:51 PM

Ahhh Finally.... KAIT channel 8 analog http://i35.tinypic.com/htgokh.jpg coming in here (on the new YA1713 yagi). First time Ive ever been able to log Jonesboro. Cant get the digital due to that pesty low power channel 9 station on the building downtown.

Also, for what its worth, the next couple days is the spring solar outage. The sun will be tracking the Clarke satellite belt, moving behind all the satellites. It wont affect DBS satellites, but could affect some of the stations on the dbs satellite as the sun passes behind the C band satellite Dish and Directv use to pick up the signal. Its also a great time to check for line of site if you plan on installing a dish in your yard. Solar Outage calculatiors can be found on Google. Find out what time the sun will be at the location of your target satellite, find a place in the yard where the sun is shining at that time, and you have guaranteed line of site.

steveken

03-03-09, 11:03 PM

I need to take a pic of that tree thats in my neighbors backyard that may or may not cause troubles in the future. Its ever so slightly to the west (left side of my dish) as you face south, but the branches could potentially get in the way as it matures. I am not sure what kind it is, but I think it may be a bradford pear. Might be able to tell from a pic. I'll try to remember to do that tomorrow.

Other than that tree, there is one other one farther to the east in his yard that I highly doubt will be an issue; then there are the two in my backyard behind the dish, so they won't be an issue either.

steveken

03-04-09, 02:57 PM

Also, for what its worth, the next couple days is the spring solar outage. The sun will be tracking the Clarke satellite belt, moving behind all the satellites. It wont affect DBS satellites, but could affect some of the stations on the dbs satellite as the sun passes behind the C band satellite Dish and Directv use to pick up the signal. Its also a great time to check for line of site if you plan on installing a dish in your yard. Solar Outage calculatiors can be found on Google. Find out what time the sun will be at the location of your target satellite, find a place in the yard where the sun is shining at that time, and you have guaranteed line of site.
I am having a little trouble doing this. I think its between like 2:06 and 2:12 for the next few days. Just wanna make sure what I got is good. Don't suppose it will do much good if its not clear. :) Its in concrete. lol

EDIT: Oh yeah, and its overcast. No sun. :)

steveken

03-04-09, 03:18 PM

I don't think this is a real good pic showing my setup, but its close. Might be better if I set the camera with the back against the dish to show the angle. Oh well, it might be useful.

You should be able to make out the limbs of the right and left trees (the left one is rather sparsely populated with limbs). The limbs in the middle are pretty far back. There are some limbs coming over from over my head, but they don't reach out cause I cut them all the time to make sure they don't get in the way.

If this doesn't tell anything, let me know a better way to take a pic showing my tree situation.

EDIT: Let me go ahead and explain again why I am putting this up. Its cause the tree on the left of the frame is making me nervous. That pic is as close to due south as I can get without pulling out a compass and all. It is my belief that I am good and that everything will be coming down to the right of that tree. I think if it grows more to the right of the pic, THEN I might have troubles. Is that a safe assumption??

CorpITGuy

03-04-09, 03:56 PM

Davenlr

03-04-09, 05:29 PM

That tree on the left would need to double in height to affect you.

mattm1001

03-04-09, 05:36 PM

No sign of KLRT on E* as of 4:30p.

Davenlr

03-04-09, 05:56 PM

On the bright side, DirecTv added KKYK analog 20 (on channel 49) back on their system (THIS TV NETWORK).
Now all we are lacking on Directv is PBS in HD.

skipken

03-04-09, 08:14 PM

For you Dish Network subscribers, good news today:
5193(16) - KLRT [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 09 ConUS beam (NA)(Little Rock, AR-FOX)

Looks like it's probably hidden, but uplinked. Can someone with E* confirm that it is not yet active?

No KLRT in HD on DishNetwork as of 7pm, but AETN and KKYK are back, although the program guide for KKYK still says "off air."

steveken

03-04-09, 08:40 PM

That tree on the left would need to double in height to affect you.
Are you positive about that? I kind of thought that myself by using that one website that tells you stuff like that, but I just wanted to make extra sure. I wonder how long it would take it to reach double that height.

KeithAR2002

03-04-09, 09:12 PM

Just saw this on KATV's website, didn't see it posted on the forum, yet....

KATV’s Nicholson: Analog Broadcast Not ‘Malicious’ (http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0309/600292.html)

dmatch

03-04-09, 09:25 PM

RE: Nicholson
What a load of crap!
We are doing simply what we have to do, and what Congress dictated we do when they extended the date until June 12th.It was NOT "dictated" and the ahole knows it.

dmatch

Davenlr

03-04-09, 09:26 PM

Just saw this on KATV's website, didn't see it posted on the forum, yet....

KATV’s Nicholson: Analog Broadcast Not ‘Malicious’ (http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0309/600292.html)

Sure didnt convince me. Im sure those three old grandma's without converter boxes that are actually close enough to Shinall Mt to pick up analog 7's low power signal are really going to turn the tables on the sweeps. Maybe if they ACTUALLY SHOWED ABC PROGRAMMING, they wouldnt need to be worried about the sweeps.

In any case, it still seems like a malicious and greed move to me, and regardless of how good his relationship is with AETN, the people Ive spoken to at AETN dont have a good word one, for Nicholson. The faster he retires and leaves, the better Central Arkansas will be.

Ill continue to keep KATV blocked here in my house.

I wish KTHV had the nads to reclaim their aux transmitter and tell 7 to take a long hike down a tall mountain.

CorpITGuy

03-05-09, 08:01 AM

KLRT should be available in HD on E* this morning for those with 77W.

Oh, and Nicholson is a liar.

CorpITGuy

03-05-09, 08:05 AM

On the bright side, DirecTv added KKYK analog 20 (on channel 49) back on their system (THIS TV NETWORK).
Now all we are lacking on Directv is PBS in HD.

I'd really like to see PBS in HD on DirecTV... then I won't have to buy an AM21 to be able to record HD content. As things stand now, I plan to purchase one when AETN starts transmitting again. It's the only local that I'd like in HD that I don't have at the moment.

skipken

03-05-09, 08:25 AM

KLRT should be available in HD on E* this morning for those with 77W.

Oh, and Nicholson is a liar.

KLRT in HD is, indeed, now available on E* 77W. And ditto on Nicholson.

steveken

03-05-09, 09:57 AM

Just saw this on KATV's website, didn't see it posted on the forum, yet....

KATV’s Nicholson: Analog Broadcast Not ‘Malicious’ (http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0309/600292.html)
(Nicholson) “KATV, in a horrible economy, simply can't turn off its analog transmitter at the expense of losing we don't know how many viewers--on a rating that starts this Thursday, and is critical to establishing advertising rates for the months going forward.”

Wow, so, if they shut it off early, they are going to lose, what, 2 maybe 3 car dealerships that show commercials because they lost the viewers from the analog signal??? One would think that the amount of money they would save by shutting off the analog signal early would more than offset the amount of money lost by losing a few advertising dollars.

Mr. Nicholson, you, my friend, are a douche.

arxaw

03-05-09, 11:19 AM

... Oh, and Nicholson is a liar.Yep.

I'd really like to see PBS in HD on DirecTV.It will get on D* as soon as nicholson lets go of his cherished analog 7, which for some insane reason, thinks people are actually still watching.

(Nicholson) “KATV, in a horrible economy, simply can't turn off its analog transmitter at the expense of losing we don't know how many viewers...What a load of crap.

BelElDel

03-05-09, 12:07 PM

Yep.

It will get on D* as soon as nicholson lets go of his cherished analog 7, which for some insane reason, thinks people are actually still watching.

What a load of crap.

Message to Dale:

Hey Dale. IMHO, the people that are still watching only your analog signal can't afford to buy anything from your sponsors.

CorpITGuy

03-05-09, 12:35 PM

I want to send him a link to this forum so he can see how much we all think he's a total douche-bag... lol

RockyF

03-05-09, 01:47 PM

I've had read that Nicholson article like 3 times just to make sure I'm understanding him right. Okay, he's saying that he's not "purposefully blocking AETN's move to high-definition." Well, of course HD is only part of the issue. In Benton, using Charter and OTA, I cannot get AETN AT ALL. All Charter has is a test pattern, and while I could possibly get the Arkadelphia station by turning my antenna, I highly doubt it based on the coverage maps.

(Nicholson) “KATV, in a horrible economy, simply can't turn off its analog transmitter at the expense of losing we don't know how many viewers--on a rating that starts this Thursday, and is critical to establishing advertising rates for the months going forward.”

This has been covered by several people, but seriously there are two problems with this. One, he may be right in that he don't know how many viewers they'd use, but if that's a factor, than I'd better they are hugely overestimating the number of OTA analog only folks out there. I mean, I haven't heard any reports of major complaints to KARK or KASN after they shut off analog. Secondly, he mentions the horrible economy, but he has the money to pay what I'm sure is a two-fold expense to keep analog on, power bills and whatever they are paying KTHV to use their back-up transmitter? (I know nothing about the deal between 7 and 11 to use it, but I would assume there would have to be some financial consideration involved.)

(Nicholson) ”I just want people to understand that we are not doing anything malicious. We are doing simply what we have to do, and what Congress dictated we do when they extended the date until June 12th.”

Again, wrong. Congress didn't "dictate" that they had to stay on when they extended the date, nearly 500 analog stations around the country still went dark on Feb. 17th.

Now saying all this, I honestly rarely watch AETN, but there are occasional shows I enjoy, and of course, it's always fun watching them try to get their own HD problems sorted out.

Johnny Angell

03-05-09, 02:17 PM

Now saying all this, I honestly rarely watch AETN, but there are occasional shows I enjoy, and of course, it's always fun watching them try to get their own HD problems sorted out.Considering the numerous mentions of poor HD on AETN that I've seen on this forum, I'd be very happy if DTV would offer a national HD PBS channel.

steveken

03-05-09, 02:18 PM

I want to send him a link to this forum so he can see how much we all think he's a total douche-bag... lol
I say send it on to him. Over and over and over again. Maybe if we send them the link to this page alone enough times, it will maybe make them realize how much of a bone-headed move and bone-headed statement that was.

steveken

03-05-09, 02:26 PM

Hey, how about we all follow KATV on twitter? (www.twitter.com/KATVNews) If we do that, we can bombard them with complaints about this and maybe they will be honest.

steveken

03-05-09, 02:33 PM

CorpITGuy

03-05-09, 04:08 PM

Way OT: I'm trying to understand the whole Twitter idea; I just don't. All of my friends who use Twitter are self-absorbed a-holes, so it scares me. Steveken, for what purpose do you use it (just curious)? .... other than harassing Nicholson.. LOL

steveken

03-05-09, 04:17 PM

Just for seeing what celebs I like have to say and just for spouting off whatever I think I might wanna broadcast to everyone. I don't really use it for much of anything. I read stuff from people like Jessica Dean, Kristin Fisher, Greg Grunberg, LeVar Burton, Wil Wheaton, Brent Spiner, Amber MacArthur, and a bunch of other people. Websites like Woot, Orbitcast, and a couple of NASA sites use it too. I just read what they say.

CorpITGuy

03-05-09, 04:28 PM

Thanks. :)

Now back on-topic. Boo Nicholson. :D

BelElDel

03-05-09, 04:54 PM

I want to send him a link to this forum so he can see how much we all think he's a total douche-bag... lol

As much as Dale would like you to think that he is pulling the strings over at KATV, he is just doing what he is told by "higher ups" at that company and you will never hear from those people.

Davenlr

03-05-09, 05:18 PM

The FCC isnt any help either. They just told me I could watch PBS on channel 13. I, of course, asked them if they had a coupon program to purchase a 500' tower to get the antenna high enough to pick up channel 13, and she got pissed. At thich point I made it clear THEY were the ones to assign both stations to the same channel, and then change the dates at the last minute. Obviously, she wasnt in the mood for a debate.

As to whether Nicholson is responsible or not, as long he he is getting paid to be the President and General Manager, he is responsible in my book.

After all the hoops the other local stations jumped through to "allow" KATV to stay on the air, its a total slap in the face to viewers to hog a channel and prevent PBS from having any presence at all, especially if its PBS's donate-a-thon time.

Im not much on name calling, but Ill second those Ive read that were posted earlier with regard to him.

KeithAR2002

03-06-09, 02:01 AM

I suggest we all email Gannett corporate and convince them to ask KATV to vacate their aux tower. They could say they're looking out for public interest by allowing PBS to return to the air :)

bpeacock22

03-06-09, 09:45 AM

I just sent an email via KATV's site to the general manager telling him how inaccurate we all think his statements are and inviting him to come here and discuss this with us. Not like it will happen, but it was worth a shot. Again, I think if we all follow them on twitter and send message after message to them about this, it might do some good (or get us all blocked from sending them messages, hehehe).

EDIT: I took my advice and followed them on twitter and sent them a message saying how I think the article is BS and not believable. Don't think it will do any good, just felt like it would make me feel better. :)

Funny how when I mentioned writing letters about the Lost preemption a few people--including you--said it would never work. And now here we are suggesting doing the same thing but on Twitter....

I'll throw in my letter as well....in response to Nicholson but also the fact that their programming is in stereo, not 5.1 as they are advertising.

steveken

03-06-09, 12:17 PM

Funny how when I mentioned writing letters about the Lost preemption a few people--including you--said it would never work. And now here we are suggesting doing the same thing but on Twitter....

I'll throw in my letter as well....in response to Nicholson but also the fact that their programming is in stereo, not 5.1 as they are advertising.
I had a reply written up, but as I hit send, the site went down. I wish I had saved it. Oh well.

I see a little difference between writing a letter about preempting "Lost" and about the article they published. The preemption thing wasn't something that I saw coming from them as an explanation why they did something, so I thought they didn't give a rats ass what we had to say. It was more of a thing of inconvenience for a few people here on this board. I don't talk to a lot of other people who like the show, so I had no basis on how many people it affected, so I thought of it as a mild irritant for the few who expressed problems with it and saw it as something that more than likely would never get any good results from trying to contact them about it.

The story on their website is different. They decided to address publicly the complaints a lot of us here have (and I would guess a large amount of the viewing public as well or else it probably wouldn't have been pulled up into a story), so that told me that they were willing to take criticism and be challenged on the facts. The simple fact that the story had a lot of inaccuracies and was pretty much fiction from start to finish made it seem rather necessary to call them on their BS in the form of emails and Twitter messages about it.

Again, its only because they chose to say something in the first place is what I deemed as an opening for dialog about the issue. When it is a programming decision that you never hear anything at all about as far as an explanation why, then it is probably something you will never have any satisfaction from complaining about, so why waste your breath. Thats just my opinion though.

If you think these two things are pretty much one in the same, then I apologize for trying to pooh-pooh your attempts at a resolution. I shouldn't try to tell you or anyone else what will or will not work. Hell, I am probably completely off my rocker on this one as well. Its not like they care that we think they are liars or anything. :)

Davenlr

03-07-09, 10:39 AM

haley-SEA

03-07-09, 11:35 AM

Well, KKYK didnt last long on DirecTv...Back to the "slide" again. I really cant believe with a 8.5% unemployment rate, we cant find someone who can do their job and keep this stuff running smooth. Little Rock has to be the most f***ed up market in the country.

Or most dysfunctional....examples:

Short-spaced channels
Arrogance
Excessive Preemptions
Excessive Infomericals
Major Network affiliate(s) lacking 5.1 audio
Aspect-ratio Potluck and/or Stretchovision

As much as Nicholson's remarks left me cold, I don't like what Nexstar did in El Dorado either. It was the same situation with KETZ and KTVE --except that KTVE's application to sign off early was denied and KTVE/Nexstar instead of pursuing an early signoff (or at worst, 60 days of "Enhanced Nightlight Service) caved and is keeping AETN off in South Central/Southeast Arkansas until June 12th.

What really chaps me is when I"m DXing, I get to see what other markets are doing right. Little Rock stations had the chance before the economy went in the toilet to at least improve in many areas, instead they opted for the quick buck.

When a market like Fayetteville AR that was all but non-existant during the 1960's seems more advanced than Little Rock or that a small rural market such as Greenville MS gets their ***t together and ducks in a row while in Little Rock there is debate that analog holdouts are somehow relevent to a stations' well being, its a sad state of affairs.

I don't expect much in the way of change with the current local managment or ownership in the near future.

Davenlr

03-07-09, 11:48 AM

If the Puerto Rico MUX on G16 would go HD, Id just have DirecTv turn locals off here, save $5 a month, and not even worry about the Little Rock market. The only program I watch anymore on any station except Fox16 is the news on channel 4.1. For Weather, I just turn on 18.3. I watch a lot of the sports on Fox16, and thank God they are actually run decently. Very rarely a problem with them (although that 5MW analog kills my amp when the antenna is pointed within 45 degrees either way of Shinall Mt). Oh well, such is life when you have a bunch of clueless people voting a bunch of clueless officials into the government.

dmatch

03-07-09, 12:24 PM

Just noticed that my KTHV-DT signal quality is down about 15-20% from what it usually is. It is still high enough to lock Okay. Checked antenna/connections and all appears to be in order. I thought it might be the windy conditions but even during periods of time when wind is light the quality stays much lower than usual today. Anyone else seeing anything similar?

dmatch

dmatch

03-07-09, 12:34 PM

fly_daddy

03-07-09, 04:30 PM

Davenlr

03-07-09, 04:56 PM

Good catch. It was there last night when I checked. Well, wonder whats up at Equity now. Geeze.
Anyone want to subsidize me running a real station? Hope it stays off long enough to see if I can get digital 20 from jonesboro.

arxaw

03-07-09, 06:08 PM

When a market like Fayetteville AR that was all but non-existant during the 1960's seems more advanced than Little Rock...About the only thing Fudvlle's got over LR market is HD time shift capability for network & syndicated fare like Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, etc. Oh, and KAFT-DT, for what that's worth (not much). At least a lot of folks up here can either get Tulsa, Springfield or Joplin. Another shining TV market.

If the Puerto Rico MUX on G16 would go HD, Id just have DirecTv turn locals off here, save $5 a month...I'm not sure D* will let you turn off locals any more, once you have sub'd to them. They probably would if you threatened to leave. Another way would be to "move" to Jonesboro, which has not locals on D*. Now there's a market. LOL

It's sad that katv is so askeered to turn off analog. Living in the past, as they always have.

dmatch

03-07-09, 06:10 PM

I can't pick up KKYK analog 20 off the air today. Which would explain the slides on both DirecTV and Dish.KKYK-Analog 20 was on air when I posted about it this morning. It is gone now though. However, It still appears to be on BUD satellite on Galaxy 18. BTW, KARZ appears to be on there too as well as KATV.

Edit: Still wondering if KTHV-DT has lowered power or what might be causing much lower quality on it today for me.

dmatch

skipken

03-07-09, 07:29 PM

I can't pick up KKYK analog 20 off the air today. Which would explain the slides on both DirecTV and Dish.

KKYK is showing up on Comcast cable at 6:30pm, but still the slide on Dish.

KTHV is normal signal strength at my location near I-430 and Cantrell.

haley-SEA

03-07-09, 09:22 PM

I'm not sure D* will let you turn off locals any more, once you have sub'd to them. They probably would if you threatened to leave. Another way would be to "move" to Jonesboro, which has not locals on D*. Now there's a market. LOL
.

A one horse town.....at least the folks in the J'Boro mrkt could still get DNS from D* from three networks, I think.

Davenlr

03-07-09, 09:28 PM

KAIT is a first class ABC affiliate though, and even their news is good. I enjoyed watching it when I lived in Blytheville.

As much as KARZ is owned by KARK, it sure seems from its programming fare, and operations, to still be an equity run station. You suppose KARK is paying equity to run it for them until they can revamp their studios with digital stuff? I drove by equity the other day, and they have like 20 new dishes across their parking lot that werent there when I worked there. Didnt have time in the traffic to see if they were TVRO or transmit dishes. Wonder what they are really up to these days.

haley-SEA

03-08-09, 06:51 AM

KAIT is a first class ABC affiliate though, and even their news is good. I enjoyed watching it when I lived in Blytheville.

KAIT has to work to get the viewers since they compete with Memphis and Little Rock in parts of their coverage area. What little I've seen of them has been good.

As much as KARZ is owned by KARK, it sure seems from its programming fare, and operations, to still be an equity run station. You suppose KARK is paying equity to run it for them until they can revamp their studios with digital stuff? I drove by equity the other day, and they have like 20 new dishes across their parking lot that werent there when I worked there. Didnt have time in the traffic to see if they were TVRO or transmit dishes. Wonder what they are really up to these days.

I'm not sure. Programming is unchanged except for dropping "Live With Regis and (whats her name)", and timeshifting MNTV programming. Even down to those cheesy infomercials for some ethnic clothing store and one for some home seller with a looping one minute message that plays over and over, and over.

haley-SEA

03-09-09, 09:08 AM

areas from Shreveport to DFW open for long-distance reception to Star City area. Not sure if any is making it to Central Arkansas.

now back to our normal programming :D

8:17am--katv-DT's big signal no match for tropo ducting and KETK-DT 22 (56-1) Jacksonville TX! This is the real deal folks, on analog vhf KLTV 7 taking care of that Little Rock channel 7 pest.

Davenlr

03-09-09, 11:37 PM

haley-SEA

03-10-09, 08:39 AM

Haley, you got a Winegard YA1713 too? Noticed your screen caps from Shreveport. I logged ch 8 Jonesboro with it right away (actually can tell its there almost all the time, but its not watchable), where I NEVER could get squat on the Quantum...seems like a good antenna. Will know more when I get some tropo in here while Im not at work :)

I spent most of yesterday away from home, but did some intense "huntin'" that morning. Yes that was a YA1713, ordered on Monday night...arrived on thrusday night, got assembled that night (and tested), and put up on Friday morning before work. The best feature (beside the gain) is being able to null out unwanted st(k)at(v)ions this far south, y'know pes7s.

I've got more caps to put up but it may be a day or two.

7:40am....I'm pulling in weak WHBQ 13, and KAIT 8, they're in and out though.

steveken

03-10-09, 12:27 PM

I haven't looked on here in a couple of days and noticed you guys talking about 20 analog being off the air. I just ran into my bedroom where I have my TV with OTA hooked up to my outside antenna. 20 is still on, but it is very very very weak. You can't really see much of what is going on, but you can hear the audio. Just thought I would throw that out there.

dmatch

03-10-09, 01:52 PM

Yeah, It is back for me too but very snowy picture and no color. Equity continues its stellar performance.:rolleyes:

dmatch

Davenlr

03-10-09, 06:01 PM

20 is coming in good here. Still isnt back on Directv.

Wonder what that was all about? In any case, I never got a peep from AETN Jonesboro while it was off, so glad its back. There actually are some good shows on 20.

Haley, I love the YA1713/Dat75/7777 combo. I doubt other than stacking I could get any more gain than this combo offers. Ill move it from the roofmounted 3' tripod to a roofmounted 15' tripod, with an additional 5' of mast later this spring. then Ill be as set as I can be without buying a tower. They are just to expensive for a hobby.

arxaw

03-10-09, 10:57 PM

A one horse town.....at least the folks in the J'Boro mrkt could still get DNS from D* from three networks, I think.They still can get CBS, FOX & NBC in HD from D*. It's $2 per ala carte channel.

From http://directvdnseligibility.decisionmark.com/app/AddressForm.aspx
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steveken

03-12-09, 04:51 PM

Anyone having KARK issues?? NM, prolly just the weather.

steveken

03-12-09, 06:24 PM

steveken

03-12-09, 07:08 PM

RockyF

03-12-09, 07:33 PM

bpeacock22

03-12-09, 09:22 PM

Alas, I sat down to watch some finally returning new shows and they are pre-empted locally by basketball. Oh well, got to see Smallville anyway. Grey's and Private Practice (okay they are my guilty pleasures) will be on like around 2 am. Apparently this is happening all over for local conferences, which begs the question, why didn't parent ABC just push the shows back another week?

arxaw

03-12-09, 09:34 PM

If nicholson ever allows KETS-DT back on the air, you'll finally be seeing some local HD. From AETN of all places. Here's a couple of cam pics of the screen from the begathon tonight, in (non-stretch) 16:9. The special on the Buffalo River preceding the begathon break was also in HD, but my camera battery wasn't charged.

KAFT-DT 13-1
http://i41.tinypic.com/2zhfwqc.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/6z52di.jpg

Unfortunately, some programming is back to stretchovision, though. :( Maybe they'll eventually learn how to do DTV right.

dmatch

03-12-09, 11:22 PM

This is just getting a bit aggravating. I can get EVERY other channel full scale right now, but I can't get KARK for jack crap. I just don't know what to do about it. I mean, I thought the outdoor antenna would be the answer, but it worked better for KARK when it was inside like I had it 6 months or so ago. ...... This is complete speculation and would require a lot more DTV engineering knowledge than I possess to analyze it but....

Perhaps it's n+2 interference from KLRT. If KARK were a bit weak then interference from KLRT just might kill the quality. Sort of the straw that broke the camel's back.

Whether it is n+2 interference or some other type, one way to determine that might be to watch how erratic the signal quality level is. If you have a signal quality meter that updates quickly enough (not many do) and you had interference then you would probably see the qualities jump up and down quite a bit from that interference. I see this large up/down changing of quality on both KARK and KLRT but since they are both about the same quality they are both, apparently, just generally lowered because of it. If one was stronger than the other I could see how the weaker one might suffer more dramatically from the stronger one.

I would love to see what the qualities would look like if one or the other of 30 or 32 were to go off air for a while. Judging from the range of 1 second quality readings (75-100) that I see on them now I would expect that if they are interfering with one another they would run very near 100% without the interference.

But all that said, as the old saying goes, If you hear hoof-beats think of horses not zebras (unless of course your in Africa). It's probably just that you found a cold spot for channel 32.

Heh, how about you found a luke-warm spot for 32 and n+2 interference has pushed KARK toward the edge of the digital cliff.

dmatch

dmatch

03-12-09, 11:35 PM

Evidently the local car dealers told Nicholson that they would quit advertising with KATV if they didn't do something for to get employees to buy new or used cars. At least thats what I got from the "news story" they aired, I could be wrong. It was saying that Albritton is giving all employees of their 6 owned stations $2000 if they buy a new car and I think it was $1000 for buying used.

I just find myself wondering why they thought it was important enough for them to make that into a "story".Maybe it wasn't news it was an advertisement. Got your attention didn't it?

I have seen several "news stories" on KATV that focused on some business or another that made me take notice of the same thing. My wife still surfs thru the channels during the local news, including KATV (despite my objection), and we have both noticed that some of KATV's so called news is really just advertisement. Sometimes for a particular type of product and, even more obvious, sometimes for a particular local business.

dmatch

steveken

03-12-09, 11:37 PM

This is complete speculation and would require a lot more DTV engineering knowledge than I possess to analyze it but....

Perhaps it's n+2 interference from KLRT. If KARK were a bit weak then interference from KLRT just might kill the quality. Sort of the straw that broke the camel's back.

Whether it is n+2 interference or some other type, one way to determine that might be to watch how erratic the signal quality level is. If you have a signal quality meter that updates quickly enough (not many do) and you had interference then you would probably see the qualities jump up and down quite a bit from that interference. I see this large up/down changing of quality on both KARK and KLRT but since they are both about the same quality they are both, apparently, just generally lowered because of it. If one was stronger than the other I could see how the weaker one might suffer more dramatically from the stronger one.

I would love to see what the qualities would look like if one or the other of 30 or 32 were to go off air for a while. Judging from the range of 1 second quality readings (75-100) that I see on them now I would expect that if they are interfering with one another they would run very near 100% without the interference.

But all that said, as the old saying goes, If you hear hoof-beats think of horses not zebras (unless of course your in Africa). It's probably just that you found a cold spot for channel 32.

Heh, how about you found a luke-warm spot for 32 and n+2 interference has pushed KARK toward the edge of the digital cliff.

dmatch
Not really sure what most of that meant, really. I am guessing that it meant that since KARK and KASN are both so close together, one is killing the other? I am definitely further from KASN than KARK, so thats why I thought that KARK was flying over the top of me. I tried raising and lowering the mast to a few different levels, turning the antenna both horizontally and vertically, but nothing seemed to help. Very frustrating to me.

OOPS, just realized its not KASN, thats 39. I meant KLRT. :)

steveken

03-12-09, 11:48 PM

Just remembered about the signal quality program that I got from Hauppauge. Turned on WinTV with it going and looked at 4.1. It never gets higher than a SNR of 18.5 with a crapload of correctable and uncorrectable errors. Every other channel (except 25 of course) was up in like the 27 and 28 and up SNR range. I am not sure what the highest SNR is, but 27 is really high and 17 is really low on the gauge. I am guessing 30 is max.

So, anyway, yeah, the stuff from 4.1 is getting crunched by 16.1 pretty bad it looks like. Not real sure what to do about it. I guess I need to change where I have the antenna set up. If it weren't for the fact that I have the mast zip tied really well to the deck, I would try that. (zip tied cause I don't have any other real good way to keep it up. the zip ties were mainly in case the wind kicked up real hard.)

haley-SEA

03-13-09, 01:43 AM

Maybe it wasn't news it was an advertisement. Got your attention didn't it?

I have seen several "news stories" on KATV that focused on some business or another that made me take notice of the same thing. My wife still surfs thru the channels during the local news, including KATV (despite my objection), and we have both noticed that some of KATV's so called news is really just advertisement. Sometimes for a particular type of product and, even more obvious, sometimes for a particular local business.

dmatch

There's been a stink recently about stations passing off Video News Releases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_news_release) as "news", often without IDing the pieces. Many of these are the usual canned medical features that are a staple of "local" television "news".

steveken

03-13-09, 03:14 AM

There's been a stink recently about stations passing off Video News Releases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_news_release) as "news", often without IDing the pieces. Many of these are the usual canned medical features that are a staple of "local" television "news".
Hell, they've been doing that for years. They always pass off more than 1/2 of the newscasts as their "news" when really a lot of it is from the AP or pre-recorded press releases trying to get the word out about something. They taught me all about that in Mass Communication class in college. :)

Davenlr

03-13-09, 08:26 AM

With the internet, AlJazeera, KTWN radar, MHz Worldview, who needs local news via TV?

haley-SEA

03-13-09, 09:38 AM

With the internet, AlJazeera, KTWN radar, MHz Worldview, who needs local news via TV?

ahemmm....Luddites that think the "internets" is evil :eek:

Trip in VA

03-13-09, 09:40 AM

Question: Does Al-Jazeera have commercials or is it non-commercial like the newscasts on MHz?

- Trip

steveken

03-13-09, 09:53 AM

ahemmm....Luddites that think the "internets" is evil :eek:
And what about the Pentecostals that are supposed to not watch TV, use computers, have big TV billboards on the side of the Interstate, or play video game consoles or stuff like that (even though you see them all the time doing it. Like, the other day, I saw a Pentecostal girl with a digital camera. If they are supposed to have problems with modern technology like that, what was she doing with a digital camera? Anyway, back on subject....).

Davenlr

03-13-09, 10:34 AM

Question: Does Al-Jazeera have commercials or is it non-commercial like the newscasts on MHz?

- Trip

Like PBS, "This segment sponsored by Qatar Airways". Thery do run an occasional commercial, but usually, just promos for their other channels (sports, etc).

Davenlr

03-13-09, 10:36 AM

I think thats the quakers, not Pentacostals who reject technology.

steveken

03-13-09, 10:38 AM

I think thats the quakers, not Pentacostals who reject technology.
I know that they are not supposed to use computers or watch TV cause a guy I once knew was friends with one and we talked about it on a regular basis.

RockyF

03-13-09, 11:17 AM

I know that they are not supposed to use computers or watch TV cause a guy I once knew was friends with one and we talked about it on a regular basis.

Yeah, I've got several Pentecostal friends, and while I hate to put down anyone's religious beliefs, I've always thought it was funny, they'd be very anti-TV, but they all had radios and even computers. I'm like, it's either the technology your against, or the usage of that technology, but to pick and choose which technology is "good" and which is "bad" just never made any sense to me.

Trip in VA

03-13-09, 11:35 AM

Like PBS, "This segment sponsored by Qatar Airways". Thery do run an occasional commercial, but usually, just promos for their other channels (sports, etc).

I guess my question is, would it be able to be shown on PBS, if a PBS station wanted to carry it?

- Trip

ad5kl

03-13-09, 11:40 AM

I knew people who would roll the "one-eyed monster" TV into a closet when company was expected.

arxaw

03-13-09, 11:46 AM

Not really sure what most of that meant, really. I am guessing that it meant that since KARK and KASN are both so close together, one is killing the other? I am definitely further from KASN than KARK, so thats why I thought that KARK was flying over the top of me. I tried raising and lowering the mast to a few different levels, turning the antenna both horizontally and vertically, but nothing seemed to help. Very frustrating to me.

OOPS, just realized its not KASN, thats 39. I meant KLRT. :)There can be interference when two channels are 1-off from each other. This is called n±1 interference. Recently, tests have shown that there is also the possibility for interference from stations 2-off from each other, aka n±2 interference. This would be the case with KLRT 30 & KARK 32. I have also read (but don't have source) that n±7 is also a possibility with UHF channels. If true, that would explain KARK's problems.

This type of interference is also worse with some tuners than others.

allenf

03-13-09, 12:10 PM

Yesterday there was moderate icing on Shinall Mtn. Depending on if the antenna has a radome or not ,and/or heaters, and other misc factors, icing can affect the transmission of the signal. For example, KATV-DT normally has a VSWR of about 1.07:1. Yesterday morning we were at 1.14:1. It hung there most of the day a dropped back to normal mid-morning today as soon as the temp rose and the sun came out a bit.

A

haley-SEA

03-13-09, 12:53 PM

steveken

03-13-09, 01:12 PM

A prime example of the stations running crap as "news" that they supposedly put together and not citing the real source, KARK just ran a "story" about people supposedly doing income tax scams claiming they can get your rebate to you quicker. Well, at the start of the story, and in several places through it, they were clearly showing the Canadian version of the IRS's web pages and several other monitoring things that were clearly not U.S. They claimed that scammers were sending out forms that were made to dupe people into it, all the while showing Canadian stuff. I thought it was really funny. :)

Davenlr

03-13-09, 05:26 PM

I guess my question is, would it be able to be shown on PBS, if a PBS station wanted to carry it?

- Trip

Yeam Im sure PBS could carry the news hours. The other programming, like the call/text in shows are more ala CNN than PBS fare tho.

ad5kl

03-13-09, 06:03 PM

I just did a check of propagation since the wx is nasty....KTHV analog 11 is snowy (on the Winegard 1713 & CM7777 preamp) , meanwhile KTHV-DT is @ 91% signal strength here. Did 'THV reduce analog power to nudge the stubborn or are there transmitting antenna issues related to the wx?

That would be a good idea. Every month the FCC should allow stations to cut the analog power by a quarter then on June 12 cut to zero. Nothing like incentives to get the stragglers in gear:cool:.

Davenlr

03-13-09, 11:27 PM

That would be a good idea. Every month the FCC should allow stations to cut the analog power by a quarter then on June 12 cut to zero. Nothing like incentives to get the stragglers in gear:cool:.

Any analogs left on after June 13th should be made open season for sighting in deer rifles on their antennas.

I like the power cut idea, that makes to much sense for the government tho.

Davenlr

03-14-09, 12:54 AM

Well, directv has taken PBS National off ch 2 (now has a Dont call us, we know the station is off air) slide. PBs National ch 379 still comes in. Ch 49 (20) KKYK is back with THIS tv, but the breakups make it unwatchable.

KeMV analog 6 coming in on the VHF hi antenna, but with no audio...wish Id have known KTWN was gonna drop AETN off their subchannel BEFORE I removd the Quantum which had low band VHF coverage. KeMV-DT still wont pop over 16% quality for me on ch 13. KETG 9 analog unwatchable due to the low power ch 9 downtown with the three mile radius signal (whats the point in that?). KETG-DT only pops up to 12% quality.

So the Little Rock market is still fricked. Now I read on Arkansas Times that PBS is losing ALL govt funding over the next two years, and their donations are down 50% (maybe because no one without Comcast can even see them??). Not looking good for AETN. Thanks a lot KATV. What goes around comes around.

Davenlr

03-14-09, 05:19 AM

Cardinals vs Braves preseason baseball scheduled for noon Sat on KKYK (20 analog, 49 Directv) if the guide is accurate.

dmatch

03-14-09, 10:58 AM

Guide is probably correct since KSDK is carrying that same game. I guess this means that Equity (via KKYK) still is the local Cardinal affiliate. Bummer! I had hoped for some HD baseball on KARZ but it appears NOT. Maybe those KSDK games will be on BUD satellite like they were last year.

Guess we will know in a couple of hours.

dmatch

Davenlr

03-14-09, 01:22 PM

You find it? I havent yet. Started on H2 and working west. Nevermind, Its being transmitted ANALOG. Im not gonna dig the old receiver out for that.

dmatch

03-14-09, 04:14 PM

They said on air that they (KSDK) wouldn't do HD until the regular season games. That being the case then you can expect an HD digital feed on AMC 6 C band if it is like last year.

DRCars

Johnny Angell

03-14-09, 10:09 PM

I couldn't find this mentioned in the thread. Did anyone have any problems watching Lost on 3/4 via DTV? We just watched our DVR recording of it, and it was without audio and the image frequently froze and I would have to fast forward thru it.

Davenlr

03-15-09, 02:12 PM

LOST is one of those ABC shows isnt it? The one with guys with a orange ball running back and forth on a wood floor?

Anyways, looks to me like neither KATV or KTWN is gonna help us, so I made a morning effort. Still cant get over 16% on KEMV-DT, so using a low/high combiner, the VHF input on the 7777, and lots of playing, I managed to get a very watchable picture on analog 6 KEMV. I mounted the quantum on my aux ground mounted tripod, took an old 10 element FM antenna, and mounted the two 4" apart. The FM antenna acts as directors for the Quantum, all of them being just about perfect for channel 6, and the quantum being all driven elements sucked the signal right up. At 1 pm with no tropo, its coming in a little snowy, usual impulse noise, but in stereo, something the quantum alone wouldnt lock. Will use this til KATV gives up their folly. Here is a pic of the antenna arrangement, about 20' off the ground. Got the idea from the Dat75, using what appears as three separate yagi's to feed one driven element. It works.

KEMV antenna http://i37.tinypic.com/w137gn.jpg

BTW, if any of you'all watch PBs and have a spare $30, give em a call and donate. 1-800-662-2386. I did. They are getting killed in their pledge drive due to over 1/3 of the state not being able to get their signal due to KATV. I dont usually donate, but I did this year. Id really like to see KETS HD succeed, and would hate to lose my favorite shows.

Johnny Angell

03-15-09, 11:59 PM

BTW, if any of you'all watch PBs and have a spare $30, give em a call and donate. 1-800-662-2386. I did. They are getting killed in their pledge drive due to over 1/3 of the state not being able to get their signal due to KATV. I dont usually donate, but I did this year. Id really like to see KETS HD succeed, and would hate to lose my favorite shows.That is a good suggestion. BTW, last time I looked, still no PBS on DTV. Have we lost PBS until the final switchover?

Davenlr

03-16-09, 12:08 AM

That is a good suggestion. BTW, last time I looked, still no PBS on DTV. Have we lost PBS until the final switchover?

Guess so. They disabled PBS national channel too. It was still on yesterday. Ive never had to work so hard to watch a channel in my life. I could get free HBO easier.

If its not raining, PBS-HD comes in good here, but thats darn expensive for 3 months.

I set up the rig to watch KEMV because I wanted to see the two hour special on the Buffalo National River, my favorite part of the state.

Davenlr

03-16-09, 01:26 AM

haley-SEA

03-16-09, 07:40 AM

Midnight Tropo - Antenna's pointed North
analog 3 from somewhere coming in tonight. Swear I saw an ADC commercial and call letters starting K, breaking up bad. Probably Springfield.
KEMV 6 almost snowfree
Infomercials hogging analog 7
KEMV-Dt up to 24% (woo hoo) on 13 (-hen are they supposed to raise their power?)
Digital signal on ch 19 (probably Springfield)
Digital signal on ch 34 (??? Eureka digital?)
Analog 42 off the air again...Will it return? Bets?

All very weak.

oh...you missed one last night/early AM: KAFT 13 (analog) F'Ville was coming in weak around midnight. I could see 18 (KFSM-DT) try to lock, and same for ch9 DTV (KAFT-DT).

The bad news was that I could never get KETG-DT (13, "9-1") to lock at all last night. I think that Buffallo River show is supposed to air again later this month, hopefully conditions will be better.

This morning KEMV-DT made a brief lock, analog on 6 drifting in enough to watch on peaks on the YA1713. I was getting a weak signal on KAFT 13 pointed *at* KEMV-DT. Now analog 13 is "snowed out" and KEMV-DT is trying to lock again! No wonder nothing will lock consistantly on AETN between analog QRM and their weak VHF-DTV power levels.

I've not seen 42 analog OTA the past few days, perhaps their transmitter "...gave up the ghost".

Davenlr

03-16-09, 08:48 AM

oh...you missed one last night/early AM: KAFT 13 (analog) F'Ville was coming in weak around midnight. I could see 18 (KFSM-DT) try to lock, and same for ch9 DTV (KAFT-DT).

I have locals on 9 and 18, so they are always unavailable as dx channels. Fayetteville might be the cause of me not being able to get a signal higher than 32% on KEMV-DT...will check the analog tuner next time.

CorpITGuy

03-16-09, 10:54 AM

Guess so. They disabled PBS national channel too. It was still on yesterday. Ive never had to work so hard to watch a channel in my life. I could get free HBO easier.

If its not raining, PBS-HD comes in good here, but thats darn expensive for 3 months.

I set up the rig to watch KEMV because I wanted to see the two hour special on the Buffalo National River, my favorite part of the state.

Why on Earth would DTV yank the PBS national feed?

arxaw

03-16-09, 01:05 PM

Why on Earth would DTV yank the PBS national feed?D* does a lot of weird stuff.

CorpITGuy

03-16-09, 03:55 PM

PBS on DirecTV update: Mike McCullars with AETN told me he has requested an explanation from DTV. AETN is in favor of allowing us to receive the national PBS feed as a placeholder until June 12.

Davenlr

03-16-09, 04:31 PM

PBS on DirecTV update: Mike McCullars with AETN told me he has requested an explanation from DTV. AETN is in favor of allowing us to receive the national PBS feed as a placeholder until June 12.

Whats really dumb is DTV *has* AETNs signal, they are sending it out on Fayetteville/Ft Smiths HD locals. Have they not the capability to split it, and send it with the LR locals as well?

haley-SEA

03-16-09, 08:22 PM

KETG-DT 13 locking (mostly) at Star City during first quarter hour of Antiques Roadshow. However, I noticed KEMV-DT 13 also trying to come in before I turned the antenna. KETG analog is snowy due to KAFT-DT trying to show up, its nearly strong enough to decode.

Image on 9-1 is a window box within a window box ("fixed" by zooming) so its proper 4x3 on my 16x9 display.

Davenlr

03-16-09, 08:33 PM

Well, so far its been a pretty productive night....

WMAO (3 subchannels) http://i33.tinypic.com/14awk77.jpg
KTBS analog http://i33.tinypic.com/vo39yg.jpg
WJTV Jackson,Ms http://i33.tinypic.com/33xevx4.jpg
Also getting Analog 10 from El Dorado, and a digital 8 from the same direction that wont lock
Getting lots of others I cant lock at the moment as well. 6 KEMV is being interfered with by something....

haley-SEA

03-16-09, 08:58 PM

The HD subchannel on WMAO-DT 25 ("23-2") is locking up my DishNetwork vip211, so I switched to the older RS Accurian. 23-2 still won't play right but its at least not locking it up. 23-1 has the same double windowboxing that KETG-DT 9-1 had earlier, but at least its not having the studderingvideo issues.

The channel 6 QRM: its from KARK's sister station in Shreveport (actually Texarkana) KTAL. KTAL was coming in over the Winegard highbander pointed at Inverness MS (QTH of another channel 6, WABG which is in "nightlight" mode).

Davenlr

03-16-09, 09:09 PM

The HD subchannel on WMAO-DT 25 ("23-2") is locking up my DishNetwork vip211, so I switched to the older RS Accurian. 23-2 still won't play right but its at least not locking it up. 23-1 has the same double windowboxing that KETG-DT 9-1 had earlier, but at least its not having the studderingvideo issues.

My Pansat wont play 25-2 at all, says "scrambled or bad channel". Ive never tried to play a station that had a SD -1 channel and HD -2 channel, so that might be it. The other two subchannels play ok.

Also just logged KLTM Monroe 13 analog PBS.

haley-SEA

03-16-09, 09:55 PM

its another "Sheveport Hayride" tonight....KSLA 12 analog, KSLA-DT 17 (12-1 CBS, 12-2 THIS network, 12-3 weather), KTBS-DT, KTAL-DT, KMSS. Heck I even saw channel 8 analog which could be WFAA (or KAIT off the back end). KNOE-DT the channel 8 DTV is getting hammered and won't decode.

i smell another blog :D

update...its KAIT, poor KNOE-DT doens't stand a chance . But WMAO is winning the battle of the DT ch 25's here, knocking out WPTY-DT, meanwhile KVTJ-DT 48 is trying to worm in. WMAO-DT still decoding strong. Multiple ducts in play

Davenlr

03-16-09, 10:46 PM

haley-SEA

03-16-09, 11:01 PM

Im watching KEMV-DT's signal drop to 0 every time, on the analog tv, I see analog signal noise pop up. Cant get poor Mountain View to go over 32%.

Cant get ANY quality pointed at Gurdon.

At this point, Id be happy with a KEMV-DT translator on a building downtown.

Maybe Ill just move up North :) Love the Mountains anyways.

Channel 13 is too overcrowded....3 analogs, and 2 digitals within 200 miles of here. Noticed LPB is still in fundraising mode a short time ago.

What do you know about that translator on ch9 in LR? Who owns it and honestly is there any programming on it that is real or is it infomerical and/or religious programming. If they were out of the way, you would have a might better shot at decoding KAFT-DT from F'Ville.

in other news...KARZ-DT is decoding downstate :D

Davenlr

03-16-09, 11:19 PM

What do you know about that translator on ch9 in LR? Who owns it and honestly is there any programming on it that is real or is it infomerical and/or religious programming.

Its a placeholder license, im sure. the programming on ch 9 is identical to the programming on ch 28, both are a direct feed to the transmitter from AMG-TV satellite channel on C band. No ID's, no local commercial inserts, just a ground translator for the sat channel. Doesnt appear to be religious. Shows lots of old movies, and shows. Ch 28 has much better coverage. Ch 9 comes in crappy here, and I can see the buildings downtown.

Have no idea who owns it, but should be listed on the FCC site.

arxaw

03-16-09, 11:37 PM

Midnight Tropo -
Digital signal on ch 34 (??? Eureka digital?)
Nope. KPBI is still analog only.

Whats really dumb is D* has AETNs signal, they are sending it out on Fayetteville/Ft Smiths HD locals. Have they not the capability to split it, and send it with the LR locals as well?Yep. All D* would have to do is duplicate it on the LR HD spot beam.

Well, so far its been a pretty productive night....
6 KEMV is being interfered with by something....Maybe FM is mucking with analog 6?

As for KEMV-DT 13, reception may improve for you when analog is shut off, and then again when KEMV-DT triples power. There are way too many 13s in this region.

Davenlr

03-16-09, 11:41 PM

WHEN are they supposed to triple power?

Haley, both KZJP-LP ch 9, 1.5KW and
KJLR-CA ch 28, 13.5KW are owned (on license anyway) by "The Cowsert Family L.L.C."

Both transmit from downtown.

arxaw

03-16-09, 11:44 PM

Its a placeholder license, im sure. the programming on ch 9 is identical to the programming on ch 28, both are a direct feed to the transmitter from AMG-TV satellite channel on C band. No ID's, no local commercial inserts, just a ground translator for the sat channel. Doesnt appear to be religious. Shows lots of old movies, and shows. Ch 28 has much better coverage. Ch 9 comes in crappy here, and I can see the buildings downtown.

Have no idea who owns it, but should be listed on the FCC site.The Cowsert Family LLC has the licenses for chs 9 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=31135) & 28 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=31164) in LR. Why they do, is anyone's guess. It appears that 9 is a translator of Class A station KJLR 28.

It looks like they would have to do station IDs. Or has the FCC thrown that out the window, too?

Davenlr

03-17-09, 12:09 AM

I wonder why the fcc allows that, especially on a prime vhf-hi channel, within 20 miles of the grade B coverage area of a full power (KETG-TV).

And why would ch 9 "translate" 28, when both are in the same physical location?

Now, if 9 was digital, and translated KTWN, I could see the point.

Maybe I should apply for a construction permit for channel 2. I could retransmit PBS :).

I dont understand why KETS didnt get an emergency STA, and put that low power ch 5 up on their roof in Conway. At least a few people in Central arkansas could have picked it up. Im sure I could.

mattm1001

03-17-09, 12:28 AM

I dont understand why KETS didnt get an emergency STA, and put that low power ch 5 up on their roof in Conway. At least a few people in Central arkansas could have picked it up. Im sure I could.

To make a long story short, it's not that simple. In order to re-use as much equipment as possible the channel 5 transmitter has been converted to channel 7. Now the transmitter is tested and ready and just waiting to be turned on when KATV vacates the frequency.

haley-SEA

03-17-09, 12:31 AM

KLTV 7, and KLTV-DT 10 Tyler Texas. just logged.

Trip in VA

03-17-09, 12:35 AM

KEMV is at half power. STA filed yesterday.

- Trip

haley-SEA

03-17-09, 01:34 AM

KSPR-DT 19 Springfield MO locking while pointed at Monroe LA!....usual cagle of SPR stations (except KYTV-DT) locking after swinging to Fordland antenna farm.

Highlights of the night: locking KLTV-DT 10 Tyler and KNOE-DT 8 Monroe LA. KLTV is moving DTV to channel 7 after June 12 so that is a nice catch over strong analog QRM from KTVE 10.

Davenlr

03-17-09, 08:13 AM

To make a long story short, it's not that simple. In order to re-use as much equipment as possible the channel 5 transmitter has been converted to channel 7. Now the transmitter is tested and ready and just waiting to be turned on when KATV vacates the frequency.

So they are reusing the same transmitter? OK, thats logical. Hopefully the power output is higher, or maybe the antenna gain will do it.

Do you know when the rumored power increase at KEMV-DT is going to take place?

Davenlr

03-17-09, 08:15 AM

KEMV is at half power. STA filed yesterday.

- Trip

3 more db should do it here. How long does the FCC usually take to approve power increases?

haley-SEA

03-17-09, 08:36 AM

Foggy now, just got WMPN-DT 20 (29-n) Jackson MS. WMPN isn't having the issues that WMAO is having so MPB needs to take a trip to Inverness MS ;)

Two new DTV logs last night and this morning. Both are former analogs that flash cut, although for KNOE is a channel change on DTV from 7.

KNOE-DT 8 Monroe LA (8-n)
KVTJ-DT 48 Jonesboro AR (48-1)

Have fun y'all, off to work.

Davenlr

03-17-09, 08:46 AM

Same here. Work, yech. Getting a full quieting analog on channel 40... Jackson Ms perhaps?

On the way to work, TOM-FM (107.?) was getting clobbered by another station somewhere. FM was horrible this morning...all sorts of interference.

How about another channel 13 in Little Rock, to add to the match. then TV could be just what AM radio at night has turned into.

steveken

03-17-09, 11:06 AM

To make a long story short, it's not that simple. In order to re-use as much equipment as possible the channel 5 transmitter has been converted to channel 7. Now the transmitter is tested and ready and just waiting to be turned on when KATV vacates the frequency.
So, you work for AETN? (We've probably already established that, but I can't remember) If so, whats the word from DirecTV about taking away the national PBS? And has AETN talked to them about duping the Fayteville spot feed to cover the Little Rock spot too?? Just wondering.

steveken

03-17-09, 11:08 AM

Anyone know how OTA reception is out in Otter Creek? Wife is wanting to move and thats looking like the area we might end up.

dmatch

03-17-09, 11:16 AM

Is she going to let you go with her?;)

dmatch

steveken

03-17-09, 11:23 AM

Is she going to let you go with her?;)

dmatch
Oh HA HA HA lol

dmatch

03-17-09, 12:05 PM

Wow, what we've all been waiting for:

KATV-DT2 is now running 7 News Now. That's about an equal trade-off for AETN.:rolleyes:

dmatch

Azanon

03-17-09, 12:32 PM

Skimmed the recent posts and didn't see the answer so lemme ask:

Did I catch the "end" of an announcement on Today's THV that they're going to broadcast their news in HD in April?

Davenlr

03-17-09, 12:59 PM

Skimmed the recent posts and didn't see the answer so lemme ask:

Did I catch the "end" of an announcement on Today's THV that they're going to broadcast their news in HD in April?

I havent heard it. Id think Big Mouth would be all over THV2 with that info... BE NICE THO. Im betting on Fox16 to be first tho...and we all know who will be last.

Azanon

03-17-09, 01:06 PM

I havent heard it. Id think Big Mouth would be all over THV2 with that info... BE NICE THO. Im betting on Fox16 to be first tho...and we all know who will be last.

Really?? I was expecting just a confirmation. I could have swore they announced that. BTW, the announcement itself appeared to be most of the news crew standing in front of the news crescent "podium" ...... in HD.

Probably just wishful thinking on my part.

RockyF

03-17-09, 01:18 PM

Really?? I was expecting just a confirmation. I could have swore they announced that. BTW, the announcement itself appeared to be most of the news crew standing in front of the news crescent "podium" ...... in HD.

Probably just wishful thinking on my part.

I haven't heard anything about HD news at THV yet either, however they are adding an addition half-hour newscast from 6:30-7 pm starting April 6th. Do you think that could have been the announcement you saw?