Little bit more than 22 elements...

I would love to have an antenna like that on the roof. Might do me some TV DXing. However, I already have a lot of ham antenna work that needs to be done on the roof, and I'm still looking for a volunteer to do it.

SteveKen: Re: Twitter hack...

I never use it. No idea how it got hacked, but it wont happen again:
Your account is now deactivated.
Your account will be permanently deleted in 30 days.

Twitter is way to hackable, from what I have read. Have no use for it.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Nah, it is only easily hackable if you have a relatively easy password to get. Or keep the same one too long. It is actually pretty useful and handy to keep around. Has gotten me LOTS of results from companies that I have a problem with or need basic information from.

SteveKen: Re: Twitter hack...

I never use it. No idea how it got hacked, but it wont happen again:


Twitter is way to hackable, from what I have read. Have no use for it.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Evidently your deactivation of your twitter account didn't work. You are still sending out spam tweets. Guess I will have to go ahead and report it as spam so it will get banned. :)

Yea, got a notice today that my account had been reactivated. Twitter sucks. Changed my password to one even I don't know. Let me know if it continues.

Well, I won't see it anymore if it does. When I reported it for spam, it blocked it from showing up.

Well, looks like Comcast has screwed with their signals again. I can no longer get analog TV signals to feed the RF tuner on my TiVo Series 2DT box and I can now only seem to scan 6 channels on the ClearQAM tuners in my Windows Media Center box. Guess it's time to rethink me strateegeries.

...I always find it funny that all these "UHF only" antennas that you shouldn't be able to get 11 on, pick it up just fine. I guess manufacturers tend to go a little broad when they make the antennas, thus leaving them open to picking up VHF 12.Any piece of metal can pick up most any TV channel if you're close enough to the transmitter.

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...I hate that that Sony doesn't have a meter in its setup screens. That is just kinda nuts to me why they left something as crucial as that out...In many sony TVs, the signal info is very un-intuitively buried in "Diagnostics" sub-menu in "Product Support" menu. It should've been put in the "Channel" menu. At least that's where mine is. From there, you can step through all the receivable channels and check signal strength, errors, signal to noise ratio, etc. It also shows virtual and physical (RF) channel numbers. If futzing with an indoor antenna, you can easily see that the sony needs around 16 db SNR to maintain a lock on the station.

The sony I have is a few years old. They have cheapened many of their products, so it's possible the diagnostics menu may have been removed on newer models.

...analog LPTV's were granted an exception to the 2009 Transition but they have been dropping like flies since that time (either flash-cutting to digital or leaving the air completely)...KBNS & K17DL, Branson, have cut to digital with HD capability. K22HS in Eureka Springs is also (SD) digital, now.

Well, turns out Comcast is killing off ALL analog signals for people all throughout the system. They are doing it in stages. Mine just happened to be shut off like Wednesday morning at 3'ish and I didn't notice it till last night. They say if you still have analog cable signals from them, you won't in about 2 or 3 months. If you still want programming on your ancient TV's or devices that have analog tuners, get your free DTA from them so you don't lose your TV.

IIRC, comscat is doing that nationwide. Cableco-provided set top boxes will be required, now that their lobbyists convinced the FCC to scrap "in the clear."

Well, honestly, I can see the benefit of the move. If you get rid of all those analog channels, it will free up bandwidth to add a lot more SD and HD channels. The analog channels just ate up too much frequency.


EDIT: If it helps anything at all, I found a place to figure out the ClearQAM frequencies for your area. It seems to be pretty accurate for me. http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/ Put in your zip and use the drop down box at the top to switch it to your cable provider.

Well, turns out Comcast is killing off ALL analog signals for people all throughout the system. They are doing it in stages. Mine just happened to be shut off like Wednesday morning at 3'ish and I didn't notice it till last night. They say if you still have analog cable signals from them, you won't in about 2 or 3 months. If you still want programming on your ancient TV's or devices that have analog tuners, get your free DTA from them so you don't lose your TV.

Did that in North Little Rock about a year ago already. Surprised you still had any analog at all.

Looks like KATV is transmitting a strong signal, but showing 1 service found Transport ID 47F3. No programming found on 7-1, and the other two subchannels are MIA this morning.

Yep! Missing in action here too. I get "No Signal". Maybe they shut her down for to fix her. I still wonder if something wasn't SNAFUing on KATV 2 or 3 weeks ago when I was seeing very low signal and futzing with everything trying to fix it. Then, Voila, it mysteriously fixes itself.

dmatch

No loss. Can get it all on c band. Its down on DirecTV as well.

Just checked it on my computer tuner and just like you said KATV-DT shows a signal but no programming (picture/sound).

Like the lady in the in the old Wendys commercial said, "I don't think there's anybody back there".

dmatch

Seems they lost their STL.

OK, I'm confused (which shouldn't surprise anyone). COMCAST & AT&T have (or at least did have) a dedicated fiber feed to their facilities from KATV's studio which should not be affected by any STL failure. The station reported earlier that signals had been restored to CC and AT&T. What am I missing here?

Don't know. I have OTA and DirecTV

Wow, watching this football game is a challenge. DirecTv with 1 meter dish crapped out, switched to Tivo OTA, and it was pixellating so bad, it was unwatchable. Switched to the HDHomerun tuner, and Ch 16 had broke away from the game for storm coverage, so Switched to C band and am watching it out of Springfield Mo.... Geeze

Wow, watching this football game is a challenge. DirecTv with 1 meter dish crapped out, switched to Tivo OTA, and it was pixellating so bad, it was unwatchable. Switched to the HDHomerun tuner, and Ch 16 had broke away from the game for storm coverage, so Switched to C band and am watching it out of Springfield Mo.... Geeze

It's good to know KRBK has a viewer since few get them ota

Well, I tried. She just isn't going for the whole TiVo thing. What we have now works, it costs too much with the lifetime and then putting in a 2TB drive, we'd definitely have to stay with Comcast for at least 2 years that way, etc, etc, etc. Oh well, maybe if Comcast rolls out this spectrum stuff I saw it might be alright and not as bad.

It's good to know KRBK has a viewer since few get them otaLOL @ s s

So is KATV still down? I'm not sure what STL means. If they are (still down), I find it a bit annoying that they wouldn't mention it on their homepage.

When they go back up, I might need to re-scan again. When I first noticed them gone, I re-scanned to see if it was something on my end, and now my remote just outright skips 7-1.

I am getting it with my OTA antenna just fine.

...I'm not sure what STL means...Studio to Transmitter Link

I have a friend here that says he's getting KATV with Comcast (as of today) and said it was never down for him (or so he claimed). I'll just rescan tonight and hope it comes in.

I need some help... I'm located in Little Rock (near park plaza mall) and am having real issues with KARK (NBC) reception. Is anyone else having problems with this station? I have an RCA outdoor antenna mounted on my roof. It cuts in and out about every 10-15 seconds. The SNR as reported by my TV is around 10, while all my other channels are around 25-30.

I don't understand because most of the other stations are broadcast from the same location, about 9 miles from me at 293 degrees. I get great reception for these channels:

KATV (ABC)
KARZ
KLRT (FOX)
KTHV (CBS)
KETS (PBS)
KASN (CW)

I figured KARZ reception would be similar to KARK since they are affiliated, but I dont know much about this stuff.

Any suggestions??

Multipath. Try pointing the antenna about 20 degrees off the actual direction. If the antenna is amplified, try turning the amplifier off. And it would be helpful to know which antenna you are using. Those large skyscrapers at Markham and University are great reflectors for multipath.

What Dave said. +1

The model number or a picture of the RCA antenna would be helpful.

Oh, and welcome to AVSForum!

Multipath. Try pointing the antenna about 20 degrees off the actual direction. If the antenna is amplified, try turning the amplifier off. And it would be helpful to know which antenna you are using. Those large skyscrapers at Markham and University are great reflectors for multipath.

What Dave said. +1

The model number or a picture of the RCA antenna would be helpful.

Oh, and welcome to AVSForum!

My antenna is an RCA ANT751R

No amplifier, but I was wondering if i needed one. Hopefully not...

I will try rotating to a different angle and rescanning. thanks!

You shouldn't need an amp, being that close to Shinall Mtn. And the ANT751 should be plenty of antenna for your location. As Dave said, your problem is probably multipath. In addition to re-aiming the antenna, you might have to try moving it to a different physical location. It might be sitting in a dead spot for KARK.

I used to live on C Street and had horrible multipath problems. Are you East or West of Plaza West building (or whatever it's called now)?

Well, I've reaimed... tried just about every position on my current mount. It is definitely working better but still freezes every once in a while and shows very low signal strength compared to all my other channels (all others show full or near full strength). I guess if it gets worse, I will have to try moving it to a different location on the roof. Was really hoping to use the current post since it was already there from a former satellite mount.

I'm in a neighborhood southwest of markham and hughes. Not sure which building you are talking about, I'm new to the area.

He is talking about the high rise at Markham and University.

You might try raising or lowering the antenna on the mast about 6-8 inches. You might just be in a dead spot. Another thing that might help, is shortening the length of coax you are using by about 6 inches, or if a jumper from a splitter to the tv, the length of the coax from the splitter to the TV. ATSC is voodoo. Have to try all sorts of things when you are that close to the towers.

What used to show up as ghosts in the picture (multipath reflections off another object) can now cancel the digital signals and confuse the crap out of the tuner.

It could be multipath interference (bounced signals hitting the antenna at slightly different times) or interference from another source of radio transmission in the area, like from Drs' building, St Vincent, Plaza West, Summit House. All of those nearby buildings have radio transmitter antennas on the roofs.

The problem is similar to cell phone dead spots in a rural area or in a building. Moving the phone just a foot or two and it can go from NO SERVICE to 3 or 4 bars.

What you may need to do is physically move the antenna around, a.k.a. "walking the roof" until you find a hot spot for KARK, or a weak spot for whatever's interfering with it, be it multipath or RF interference. This usually involves two people and a way to communicate between the two. Walk the antenna around until the SNR stays above the usual 16dB level required to keep a good lock on the signal.

If the RF or multipath interference is coming from one of the nearby buildings to the North & East, holding a large piece of chicken wire behind the antenna might prove this.

Re an amp; you should not need one. In fact, a variable attenuator might even solve the problem.

Does ANYONE have a TIVO hooked to OTA? I am getting two listings for KMYA-DT on my Tivo. One, showing 20.2 with guide data that the Tivo will not tune in, and one showing 49.1 with "No DATA" for the guide that it WILL tune in.

I have written Zap2It and the FCC license holder contact, but wondered if there was anything else I need to do.

I got it working on SAGETV by manually remapping the 20.2 virtual to a manually created channel 49.1, and adding the guide data code for 20.2, but would like it on the TIvo.

It isn't Zap2It or the FCC you should write to I don't think. I think it is Tribune Media Services. They are like the master keepers of guide data. The person I contacted there a long time ago about stuff like this is lineups@tribune.com and her(?) name was Lynne.

I used the link at the bottom of Zap2it which sends the email to TMS.

Email received back:
Dear Zap2it user,

Thank you for the updated information in your email below. We have forwarded your email to our database team who will work to resolve this issue in a timely manner.

Thank you for being a user of Zap2it TV Listings -- we will continue to work hard to provide the most up to date listings for you.

If you should have any other questions, please be sure to reference our Help page at:

http://www.zap2it.com/services/site/help/zap-help-gettingstarted,0,3122155.htmlstory

Regards,

The Zap2it Customer Feedback Team

Where did everyone go? Decided to watch the race today on C-band. For some reason the picture is much better than OTA or DirecTv, even though its only 720p...

Oh, wow. KRBK has a viewer.

Well, History moved Ancient Aliens over to H2, HGTV moved their shows to DIY in favor of reality TV, and DirecTv is adding more sports channels and totally ignoring the basics...

So, after a great exchange with Xfinity, explaining the internet problems I had anytime I introduced a splitter in the line, they actually agreed to run a second drop to my house just for TV, and gave me the Digital Preferred for $39.95 for a year, which lowered my internet bill by $10. All around good deal. Got my sports on DirecTv, and basics in HD on Xfinity. In a year, I get to decide which to keep.

I love the way they moved all the HD channels into the 1000 range, and grouped each genre in groups of 100. I can actually FIND stuff now.

Now if I could figure out how they are managing to get their PQ as good as DirecTv and still cramming all those channels onto the cable at once...

Well I wish there was a way to get a guide for 49.1 from ota.
When they first started the channel I saw 20.2 and 49.1 now all my scans just show 49.1

Call the station and complain. They should have a phone number if you search the FCC database for their owner. FWIW, the guide data on zap2it, Tivo, and DirecTv is correct. Apparently they just cant figure out how to send it out on PSIP.

Apparently they just cant figure out how to send it out on PSIP.

Who says they're trying? LPTV stations are not required to provide guide data.

- Trip

Who says they're trying? LPTV stations are not required to provide guide data.

- Trip

KMYA has a pretty stout signal. I know they used to be KKYK-CA, but are they listed as a LPTV? They have way more coverage than the only other LPTV station we had around here on channel 18.

As for following any rules, as you can see by this latest FCC request:
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101488816&formid=314&fac_num=86534

one of the prime people involved is none other than a Mr Morton, whom I believe was involved with the shady Equity Broadcasting Co, who still has unresolved complaints on file with the FCC.

Equity never followed any rules, and I dont suspect a station owned by, or affiliated with, anyone from Equity to do anything different.

Good point, I forgot they were a Class A.

But you make a good point about Larry Morton as well, and I concur.

- Trip

So, after a great exchange with Xfinity, explaining the internet problems I had anytime I introduced a splitter in the line, they actually agreed to run a second drop to my house just for TV, and gave me the Digital Preferred for $39.95 for a year, which lowered my internet bill by $10. All around good deal. Got my sports on DirecTv, and basics in HD on Xfinity. In a year, I get to decide which to keep.

Wow, good deal. They get it dropped yet? Sorry, forgot to check this for a while.

I love the way they moved all the HD channels into the 1000 range, and grouped each genre in groups of 100. I can actually FIND stuff now.

At least YOU can. I can't find a damned thing on their lineup. I haven't done much in the thousands yet, though. Keep trying to figure out the asinine channel layout in the rest of the grid. (Still don't understand how you can cram WGN America between KARZ and AETN (436 to 440).) All I know is I spend like 5 minutes starting from the beginning just scanning to see if anything is on because I can't find the fricken channel I wanna watch. Drives me up the wall.

Anyone notice the new Hopper/Joey equipment from Dish is now available? And of course it is "free", but only if you are a new customer. I still understand how they can get away with treating loyal customers as second class citizens in preference to new blood.

Wow, good deal. They get it dropped yet? Sorry, forgot to check this for a while.

At least YOU can. I can't find a damned thing on their lineup. I haven't done much in the thousands yet, though.

All the HD channels are duplicated above 1000. And they are grouped by genre up there, 1000-1099 are locals, 1100-1199 are news channels, etc. I just blocked out all the ones under 1000 except for a couple SD channels, and the local subchannels.

They dropped the second run. The installer asked me why they just didnt replace the 20 yr old cable I already had up to fix the problem. Told him because when the tech would come, all the signal levels on his handheld meter were above the threshold. He just laughed. He did a good job, removed the old cable on the house, ran both cables with hold down clips, put the ground blocks inside a waterproof box, ran new ground wires.

I am not impressed with the "Hopper/Joey" system. Its only got three tuners, all of which will be in use if you have three Joeys, so basically you end up with a one tuner DVRs in three rooms. They wont let you use it with a VIP, so its one system or the other. At least DirecTv's had 5 tuners, and works with any of their existing stuff.

All the HD channels are duplicated above 1000. And they are grouped by genre up there, 1000-1099 are locals, 1100-1199 are news channels, etc. I just blocked out all the ones under 1000 except for a couple SD channels, and the local subchannels.

Woah, wait, how did you do that? I would LOVE to do that, but the only way I found to do it would require me to hit two or three buttons to bring up my guide. I wanna just hit the guide and have only what I want shown to me. You know, like DirecTV does it. I loved being able to block crap I didn't want with DirecTV. I just really hate Comcast's menu system. It is like I stepped in a time machine and went 20 years ago. It is so frustrating. Anyway, if you can instruct me on the easiest way to block channels I would appreciate it.


They dropped the second run. The installer asked me why they just didnt replace the 20 yr old cable I already had up to fix the problem. Told him because when the tech would come, all the signal levels on his handheld meter were above the threshold. He just laughed. He did a good job, removed the old cable on the house, ran both cables with hold down clips, put the ground blocks inside a waterproof box, ran new ground wires.

See, that's what happens when you get a good tech. He will actually go through and do his job right. Only problem is they are few and far between. At least you got both runs now. You should be golden to do whatever you want. :) You will probably love Comcast now. LOL

I loved them before. Actually though, with the combination of both DirecTv and Comcast, I finally have all the basic channels in HD. Of course, in two years, Ill have to decide which one of the two I keep, as I sure couldnt afford to pay full price for both.

As to hiding channels, I am using a Tivo Premier with lifetime service. I would not even consider using a Comcast DVR. Ive seen them at my boss' house. No way Jose'.
I understand Comcast is using Tivo Premiers in some markets now, so maybe they will become available here, and you can swap out for one.

Oh, yeah, forgot you had a TiVo. Sorry about that. Yeah, the Comcast ones are crap.

Got an email the other day from TiVo offering me a refurb'd Premier for $79 and monthly for $14.99 with a year commitment. The wife was really about ready to go for it. Then we missed the deadline on the offer. I looked on the site the next day and saw that it was really no deal for us in the first place. We would get monthly for $14.99 anyway as long as we kept the series 2 on the account. I am thinking I might still be able to talk her into getting it. :) I just wish they would stop the whole per box crap and charge you like $20 a month for up to like 3 or 4 boxes. The monthly service fee per box is what is keeping me from putting TiVo's all through the house.

Remind me again, if I turn in one of these Comcast DVR's for a TiVo Premier, do I have to pay for the CableCard for it per month? Or would that be considered the free one? And how hard is it to get it all going? Right now I have 2 Comcast HD DVR's and one HD receiver, so I think the receiver might count as the one free CableCard or something. I dunno. Thought you might. :)

I dont know if they give you a free cablecard or not. I dont really think they charge for the cablecard, they are actually charging for the HD service. It was package price + $8.50 for HD the last time I had it. Those little SD tuners were free. Havent gotten a bill yet with just my one Tivo, so dont know what they are going to charge yet.

So what is happening on KATV now OTA? It is loaded with infomercials for a few hours but ABC website programming guide is showing that the PNB Paribas (tennis indian wells tournament) is supposed to be showing. Is the OTA different than cable/satellite? I'm just trying to figure out how this works. PNB website also says that the semis and finals will be televised on "ABC".

You've entered the Preemption Zone. They will preempt just about anything they can in order to make a buck running infomercials, especially during weekends. They don't preempt the NBA, because that is one of the few things ABC won't stand for, but apparently, everything else is fair game. If you want to see sports on ABC, get a Back Yard Dish or move to another TV market.

Well, I think I have figured out ways to save money on my Comcast bill for when the rates go up in May when my promo period ends. I just ordered a SiliconDust HDHomeRun Prime CableCard tuner that has 3 tuners that can be accessed over any local network connection from Amazon with some gift card codes I had. Managed to get the thing for $13.90 grand total with free 2-day Prime shipping. :) Not too bad I don't think.

My Comcast bill had a rate change listing in it as well as a program guide list on it. Going by that, I should be able to recognize some savings by going with my own tuner. If I read the bill correctly, it should be like this for me:

With Digital Preferred, you get a box for free as part of the package, so that should cover the monthly rental for the RNG-110 I have in the bedroom.
I will have to pay the HD Technology Fee that is $8.50 (going up to $9.95 on 4/1).
I will be able to return the two HD DVR's that cost $15.95/month (going to $16.95/month on 4/1).
The CableCARD for the SiliconDust tuner will be free (says first card in device 0.00).
I will also get a "Customer-Owned Video Equipement Credit" of $2.50 for using the SiliconDust tuner.

So, that means I should be able to save $33.90 after 4/1 for the two DVR's, plus get the $2.50 for the customer video credit, making it $36.40 total savings. Well, maybe $34.95 if you count the $1.45 increase in the HD Technology Fee. Anyway, that, along with any new promo plan we can get put on, should make a dent in the ol' household budget. :)

Good luck on that. Let me know if you get anyone to do it. They denied me the "Customer-Owned Video" credit. Said it did not apply to cablecard devices. If you get it, let me know.

As for the Silicon Dust Prime, let me know how that works out with the cablecard. I was considering adding one to my HTPC, but didnt feel like messing with getting the cablecard paired, which seems to be a nightmare for some customers with Comcast.

Sucks they are raising the price for HD a month after I signed up for two years with them. Should have expected something like that.

Where did everyone go? Decided to watch the race today on C-band. For some reason the picture is much better than OTA or DirecTv, even though its only 720p...
Where at on C-band? I have a old C-band 10' BUD with GI 450 I bought new back in the day. Thanks, is it possible to hook a FTA receiver to that, only C-band lnb?

I live in the Dover area, have channel master amp on a 8 bow tie antenna at 35'. I can only receive channel 7.1-3, 16.1 at times, and 42.1 and 2. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also does anyone receive local Fort Smith or Little rock channels both? Are they available on a FTA receiver? Thanks for the help.

Well, I doubt I will be able to get the credit too, honestly. I just saw that there is a Comcast customer that bought it that left a review on Amazon about getting it. I asked him to clarify that for me, but he hasn't gotten back. I figure it is worth a shot in trying to get it. All I really have to do is point out in the rate section of my bill that THEY sent me where it says that I will get the credit since I am using my own equipment and they should give it to me. I didn't have to make it up, it's in their official communications to me. I mean, there are no qualifiers like on the other items listed either. In fact, if you look at www.comcast.com/equipmentpolicy, it looks pretty cut and dried that you are supposed to get the credit because you are using your own TiVo, Dave. I mean, it says CableCARD devices right on that page! :) Call them and raise hell. I ran some NLR zips through that page and they all say you get $2.50. Anyway, I think they know if I don't get what I want, I will bitch and bitch and bitch until I do. LOL

As far as pairing it, I think it should be pretty easy. If the local folks can't seem to get it done, I feel confident that I can get the Twitter reps to do it. They seem to be able to do a LOT of stuff that is remote capable. If it's something that has to do with the local system being screwed or something needs to be done on premises, then they get the locals in on it. Besides, the NLR office seems to be a lot crappier in terms of customer service than the LR office does, so maybe it won't be as bad. I bet those folks in NLR are leftover from Storer Cable and don't know what a CableCARD is. LOL

Yeah, it sucks the rates are going up. I am not sure why you had to sign up for two years, though. Was it cause the work they had to do on your lines or what? I only signed up for one year just to get the lower rates. Seems odd they wanted to lock you in for that long. Anyway, at least they aren't as bad as DirecTV. Those guys kept jacking the rates up EVERY danged year. I am not sure when Comcast did it last, it could have been a year ago, but it still is loads cheaper. I am pretty happy with the rates so far. That might change though. :)

You can get a $45 digital LNB for your 10'er at http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/BSC621-2-C-KU-LNBF.htm. Analog (polorotor polarity switching) might work, but probably not.

Currently (and temporarily I am sure) KRBK from Springfield (FOX) is in HD on Galaxy 16.
Also on Galaxy 16 in HD is ABC. Fox, and some other networks also availible in SD on Galaxy 16. CBS HD, NBC HD, ABC HD all use various C band sats to distribute and are in the clear. Most SEC ball games are available on feeds if you know where to look.

If you get into it, make sure you get an HD FTA receiver (AZBox is probably best for all the different formats). An external positioner controller like a Gbox will turn your actuator arm, and can be controlled with DESQ commands from the receiver.

As for getting LR with your 8 bay, all I can suggest is using TVFool.com for your address, then key in your current setup and note the signal strengths on the channels you get in DB. Write those down, then start raising your antenna height on the website 10' at a time, and see if maybe a 20' increase would give you better signal levels. If not, you are probably out of luck. Perhaps an XG91 would do the trick, if your levels are just on the threshold. I believe it has a little more gain than an 8 bay.

Yeah, it sucks the rates are going up. I am not sure why you had to sign up for two years, though.

I MAY not have. That was the web only offer...$39 first year, $59 second year with contract. They never had me sign a contract when they were here, and I was told on the phone I couldnt get that perk package anyway unless I signed up on the web. I told them I really didnt want the free Showtime, and she said oh, then I can do it for you here...So maybe its just a one year thing. Will find out next year :)

When they raise the HD fee, Ill call and try to get the $2.50 discount. All they can do is say no. If you get it tho, get the name of the person, so I can call the same person.

Should get a credit anyway, since I cannot use On Demand at all.

I live in the Dover area, have channel master amp on a 8 bow tie antenna at 35'. I can only receive channel 7.1-3, 16.1 at times, and 42.1 and 2. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also does anyone receive local Fort Smith or Little rock channels both? Are they available on a FTA receiver? Thanks for the help.
Some people in your area can receive some of the LR and the FSM stations.
To see how much signal is at your location, enter your address here:
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90

Use the "Hybrid" map view and move the red marker over your house.
Enter 35' in the antenna height box below the map.
Click "Make Radar Plot" at the top of the map.
Copy the link to the results page and post it back in this thread.

If you can't post the entire link, post what you can and we can figure out the rest of it.

Well Steve, got my bill...dont even have to call:

Customer Owned Equipment 03/25 - 04/24 -2.50
Digital Preferred 03/25 - 04/24 39.99
Includes access to OnDemand. Promotional rate.

Now, answer me a question. Channel 166 (fear) doesnt come in. Signal good, but signal doesnt lock. Is that a pay per view channel?

Hmm, not real sure. I will look later today. Trying to get videos off my DVR before I send it back. I haven't ever watched Fear, so I can't tell you a whole lot about it.

Where at on C-band? I have a old C-band 10' BUD with GI 450 I bought new back in the day. Thanks, is it possible to hook a FTA receiver to that, only C-band lnb?Yes, It sounds like you have all that you absolutely need except an FTA receiver. Many people use their old analog BUD receivers to move the dish around the sky and control polarity and watch their FTA receiver. That is what I do.

If you are hesitant as to whether you can or want to do FTA then I would suggest a cheaper receiver like the OpenBox (~$140) or the soon to be released GeoSatPro MicroHD (similar price) to get a feel for what all is involved. There are also many used FTA receivers available for even cheaper. However, If you are sure you want to do it then the AZBox (much more expensive >$300)) will receive virtually everything. There are some 4:2:2 colorspace signals that the OpenBox and MicroHD can't do.

You could also do FTA on a computer card or USB but that is another keg of worms.

dmatch

did a scan to see if I could find 20-2 or something else for 49-1 to get listings of channels.

anyway I did a full scan and found 47-1 2 and 3

47-1 is on and it shows KMYA-LP its denver co
2 and 3 are just color bar patterns
after about 20 minutes of perfect pic and sound I am now getting some breakups on the audio

must be a fluke on sunday night 9pm 4-1
ok its not an april fools joke

dave They never had me sign a contract but people like direct say that acceptance of the product is a signature.
F when I cancelled they said OH in February we sent out a flyer that said the early termination went from $200 to $400 so fork over or take us to court. ( not in those exact words but they laughed about it )
I refused to pay and they had already got the money from my autopay.
OUR GOVERMENT IS BOUGHT OFF AND WE ARE F'd but this is in all things not just this ****

...I refused to pay and they had already got the money from my autopay...This is the exact reason I never sign up for autopay or store a credit card number with a utility or pay-TV service web site.

did a scan to see if I could find 20-2 or something else for 49-1 to get listings of channels.

anyway I did a full scan and found 47-1 2 and 3

47-1 is on and it shows KMYA-LP its denver co
2 and 3 are just color bar patterns


If your set renumbers duplicate stations, its possible you are picking up the real 49-1 from Camden which is KMYA, and its being renumbered. I am scanning now, does your TV show what the physical channel number is for these 47-x channels?

Checking the propagation charts, we are in one hell of a tropo pattern from S texas to Florida. Nothing towards Colorado tho.

http://aprs.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/

There is an actual KMYA-LP 47 license out there. Perhaps they signed it on in digital.

- Trip

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101482840&formid=346&fac_num=24263

Coordinates show it on Shinall Mt, but Im not getting anything yet.

EDIT: I found it. Its on Shinall Mt. Wow, it is weak. Barely decoding.
Why would they add a channel with such low power, duplicating one that is much stronger that is already on the air as a subchannel? Maybe they are going to make it HD, and didnt want to share with Univision? Be interesting to watch, if I can get it.

Just checked, the programming is NOT the same as 20-1 or 20-2. Cant keep it locked long enough to figure out what its transmitting.
OK, came on long enough to figure out they are simulcasting "The Weather Network" from C band with local Maumelle forecast scroll inserted.

Format for the main channel is 720p

Nice catch Etrin

yep its not much value here since denver weather is not much use.
maybe its just a filler for something else.
Test maybe?

I keep wondering what 2 and 3 will have

AMC ota would be nice LOL

Davenlr,

That would be WeatherNation, not The Weather Network.

- Trip

Yea, my bad Trip. It was late, and all those after market weather channels look alike to me.

Power was significantly higher today, I locked it find on the HDHomeRun, but the Tivo Premier couldnt find it.

yep its not much value here since denver weather is not much use.

Its a national channel, not Denver. The Arkansas stuff is on the crawl along the bottom. I imagine eventually they will have the local forecast inserts.
At least its HD :)

the reason I said denver was the announcer.
The weather here in Denver and another time to our south in Arizona.
ok Arizona is sw of denver but he was close LOL


anyway I hope we have 3 new channels with something on them besides the weather before long.

Not that I watch network TV anymore, but for those interested:
Today's THV
Because of tonight’s 7:15 p.m. press conference on Petrino, NCIS will play in its entirety at 12:40 a.m.

KFSM in Fort Smith is showing regular CBS programming but carrying the news conference on MyNetwork, KXNW, Eureka Springs.

KFSM CBS is in HD on 5-1 & 34-2
KNXW MyN is in SD on 5-2 & 34-1

Well, I'm watching the Diamond hogs playing Oklahoma live on AMC9 :)

Just wondering, does anyone happen to have a media center computer that they don't use the IR receiver on? I am needing an extra receiver for my RC6 remote because I had to move mine down to the computer in the living room due to our having gotten rid of the DVR and switching to PC based tuning. I have the remote that went with that receiver, just need to find a receiver for it. Looked on eBay for one, but just always nervous about getting the wrong thing off there.

Nevermind, it was a shot in the dark anyway. I found a set on newegg for $15 after an instant deal, so I got that instead. :)

Well, it's been a month since anyone besides me posted. What's going on? We done with this thread? LOL

na, nothing happening in the OTA arena. I dont even know which way my antenna is pointed, now that I get em all on Comcast on the Tivo :)

Traitor!!!! Lol

Yeah, it's been real quiet...surely something will happen around here soon. :) Have there been any changes with that new Ch. 47? I can't get it (or Univision/Me-TV) in Benton.

Hehe, THATS where my antenna is pointed. Last time I moved it, it was to tune in ch 47.

Havent checked since. Will scope it out this weekend.

Steve: I got both Xfinity and Directv now. Got all the fricken channels I can deal with now. Both contracts expire at the same time, so may the best provider win (or I can always go with Dish for two years :) )

We are only with Xfinity now after telling DirecTV to stick their price increases where the sun don't shine. I kinda gave up on OTA HD cause I don't have the money to get a good antenna up outside, the motivation to put one up, or the permission from the wife or home owners association to put one up. So, what I have is doing pretty well for us.

I'm not sure if I mentioned on here or not, so forgive me if I did, but I got rid of all the DVR's from them and am using an HDHomeRun Prime on 3 Windows machines. Works pretty well so far.

The other day Woot.com had TiVo Premier boxes that were refurbished for sale for $49.99 after shipping, so I went ahead and picked up one of those. Just waiting for it to arrive any day now. Still not sure if I am going to be able to talk the wife into the discounted lifetime on it. I figure we can keep the old Series 2 box going long enough to get lifetime on the Premier for the lower price, then we can dump the Series 2. That discussion will happen before we start up service, though.

Oh, and remember that Customer-Owned credit from Comcast you're supposed to get? Well, I didn't get it the two months that I have had it now, so I wrote them an email and they said they would credit my bill $5 next billing cycle to make up for it. I just hope it is on there from now on.

Yea, If I dump DirecTv, Im going to get a Tivo Premier Elite 4 tuner DVR and lifetime. That will give me whole home, and 6 total tuners. Im still using SageTv. Have a media extender in each room. Right now it can access the HDHomerun OTA, FTA PBS satellite, or DirecTv. I have a 5 tuner DirecTv DVR in the LR, and a receiver on the SageTv server.
All I have hooked to Comcast right now is the Premier 2 tuner, and one of those SD tuners on an old Series 1 Tivo in the spare bedroom.

Yea, If I dump DirecTv, Im going to get a Tivo Premier Elite 4 tuner DVR and lifetime. That will give me whole home, and 6 total tuners. Im still using SageTv. Have a media extender in each room. Right now it can access the HDHomerun OTA, FTA PBS satellite, or DirecTv. I have a 5 tuner DirecTv DVR in the LR, and a receiver on the SageTv server.
All I have hooked to Comcast right now is the Premier 2 tuner, and one of those SD tuners on an old Series 1 Tivo in the spare bedroom.

Right now on the series2 dt I have I have the issue of everything I record on it through RCA cables from the external Comcast box gets flagged as copy protected and I cant stream the stuff to the premiere box. If I were to get one of those sd tuners I could hook it to the TiVo and record through it and not have to worry about the flags? How much do those cost and how do they hook up? Would I get back dual tuner functionality? The wife wants to watch Judy and the people's court in the living room too sometimes....this would help.

Copy protection flags are only passed on digital connections. If you are using RCA connections, i.e. analog, there are no flags. Its got to be something in the Tivo software doing it. I know nothing about series 2. I jumped from Series 1 to TivoHD, and then Premier.

As far as I know, the "whole home" streaming only works between Premiers.

Copy protection flags are only passed on digital connections. If you are using RCA connections, i.e. analog, there are no flags. Its got to be something in the Tivo software doing it. I know nothing about series 2. I jumped from Series 1 to TivoHD, and then Premier.

As far as I know, the "whole home" streaming only works between Premiers.

Nah, the streaming works between a whole range all the way back to pre-DT 2's.

What I think is going on is that the comcast box somehow puts the flag on the RCA outs to close the analog hole so people can't copy crap. That is what makes the most sense. And the TiVo software must have a way to detect it or something. Or it knows just by the lineup you choose it to show somehow triggers it automatically to apply that flag to close the analog hole. It just seems like a copy protection scheme to keep you from doing bad junk.

In any case, you didn't really tell me much about the sd tuner that I can use. Price and connection method are the key things. Does it only tune in the channels from the old analog basics (I.e. 2 - 69 or so)? Since it does SD only, I think that is what I really need to be using on that old TiVo to get the content my wife is wanting. So, if you don't mind, can you give me a little quick rundown on it or sow me a page to check out?

EDIT: do you mean that DTA box thingy? If so, I might have a neighbor that has a couple.

Yea, dta box. Gets most of the sd channels.

Ok, whats up? Fritz hasnt updated his blog for a month so cant find out there...

Turned on my HD Radio tonight, to listen to some Tom-FM, and no HD Radio. Did an HD Radio scan, and NONE of the stations appear to be transmitting in HD, or else my receiver is screwed up. Gets all the analogs ok.

Anyone know the scoop?

HD signals are from 12 to 20 dB below the regular analog signals. Anything in your setup that causes a loss of signal power has the potential to eliminate HD without noticeably affecting analog FM reception.

Ill check the antenna this afternoon after work, but it worked fine the last time I used it. Guess it could have a bad connector or something. Thanks.

HD signals are from 12 to 20 dB below the regular analog signals. Anything in your setup that causes a loss of signal power has the potential to eliminate HD without noticeably affecting analog FM reception.

Just hooked the HD Radio tuner to the main antenna system (amplified) and was picking up stations from all over the place, but still not a single HD lock. The HD light just flashes non-stop. Guess its fried. Teach me to buy Insignia again.

FWIW, looking at the available HD radio tuners left on the market, its either $2000+ or a portable unit. Guess Ill just stick with Pandora and not even worry about it. Its obvious its going the way of the Dodo bird.

Just hooked the HD Radio tuner to the main antenna system (amplified) and was picking up stations from all over the place, but still not a single HD lock. The HD light just flashes non-stop. Guess its fried. Teach me to buy Insignia again.

FWIW, looking at the available HD radio tuners left on the market, its either $2000+ or a portable unit. Guess Ill just stick with Pandora and not even worry about it. Its obvious its going the way of the Dodo bird.

Just checked mine. Been meaning to, just forgot. Appears I still get TOM-FM HD. That's about I so far though. Doing a scan. Nope, KSSN, too. Used to get 100.3 and quite a few others. Wonder what's going on. Of course, am just using the wire that came with it, so I could have moved it.