What is channel 7?

Probably channel 7 NBC in Panama City, FL.....that 4228 is AWSOME!

Just rescanned and WAKA is coming in fine.

What is channel 7?

The channel 7 I speak of is WCIQ-DT APT (PBS)

Britt

The channel 7 I speak of is WCIQ-DT APT (PBS)
Britt

I sort of knew it was a longshot for you to pick up the 7 in PC....but I was praising that 4228...lol.

Anyone seeing WFRZ-LD 34? What's it airing?

- Trip

Anyone seeing WFRZ-LD 34? What's it airing?

- Trip

Humm 34.2 is thedrive.tv right now something about Las Vegas
and 34.3 is selling gospel CDs

The Drive TV is some sort of travel show on the NRB network. I guess 34.2 carries NRB fulltime? I wasn't aware it was available anywhere else but DirecTV and SkyAngel.

Anyone receiving WAKA-DT OTA? I am in East Montgomery. It is painful to watch programs in SD.

i've been having trouble with WAKA HD, but I re-scanned and now I am getting a weak signal of about 60. Is WAKA doing some maintenance or whatever?

I'm between Wetumpka and Millbrook. I've been getting a good signal from WAKA. It's not that strong of a signal but I get a picture with no dropouts, etc. They were having problems and were back on 55 at quite reduced power. I'm not sure the status now. Anyone?

I'm not sure the status now. Anyone?

I have been swamped myself,and have not heard the latest, other than they can't get away from the phone calls about reception. It will be an expensive repair requiring custom parts and a tower crew.

from local channels starting sometime in April. Does anyone know if that is true and do you have any details?

from local channels starting sometime in April. Does anyone know if that is true and do you have any details?

It's supposed to be sometime this month from my understanding. Fairly soon.

I have been swamped myself,and have not heard the latest, other than they can't get away from the phone calls about reception. It will be an expensive repair requiring custom parts and a tower crew.

I got a harness and carabiners !!!

Britt

was posting my pic of the top of my tower I'll just make it link.
1.3MB http://www.brittcrowell.com/2008/2008-03-31_AntennaOnNewTower/HPIM2150.JPG

posting my pic of the top of my tower I'll just make it link.

Whew! Glad you didn't jump.:)...not getting WAKA can't be that bad!

I'm Getting WAKA fine. I'll need to dig deeper to see which one it is. 66% Signal.

I got 67% on 42
55 has 0%

Well I dug a little deeper and here is the deal.

Dish network Receivers scan for local channels and it receives WAKA on 42.

Directv Receivers do not give you the ability to scan. It uses guide data along with the zip code you enter. So it's still looking for WAKA on 55 which is dead.

Your device may have the same issue.

Russ mentioned having that problem with one of the directv rx's there at the studio. He was going to call them IIRC.
My H20's allow OTA scan, but my H21 doesn't yet work with the AM21 tuner I have.

Is the time and EPG correct for WAKA? If not, will correct tomorrow first thing when I do the others.

EPG Looks right to me on Dish OTA.

Well I dug a little deeper and here is the deal.

Dish network Receivers scan for local channels and it receives WAKA on 42.

Directv Receivers do not give you the ability to scan. It uses guide data along with the zip code you enter. So it's still looking for WAKA on 55 which is dead.

Your device may have the same issue. I've got D* and I was getting nothing for WAKA until I rescanned (or ran setup again since there is no scan function--that sucks, but that's another discussion).

I've got D* and I was getting nothing for WAKA until I rescanned (or ran setup again since there is no scan function--that sucks, but that's another discussion).

I rescanned before I posted that and didn't get 8 on D*

I've got an older H20 from D* and it scans for local channels and I'm getting WAKA just fine. And when I say scan, it seems to do an actual channel scan.

Britt

10-4 Britt
Mine is the HR21 with piggy back tuner.

I have been swamped myself,and have not heard the latest, other than they can't get away from the phone calls about reception. It will be an expensive repair requiring custom parts and a tower crew.

Did you get the impression that it would take a few days or a few months?

Tivo corrected the program guide for WAKA to work on frequency 55. If its going to be awhile for the 55 transmitter to be up and going again, it might be worthwhile to try to get TIVO to switch the association back to 42.

Appreciate whatever you can do.

For other TIVO users, they still didn't switch 20-1 to frequency 20. I spoke with the CSR a few minutes ago and they said that they'd resubmit it to Tribune.

10-4 Britt
Mine is the HR21 with piggy back tuner.

Mine is the HR20-100S.

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Add in Montgomery locals and its a great month.

jtrippe, where did you hear that Dish is adding locals in HD for the Montgomery area this month? Is it pretty reliable?

Is there any possibilty it'll happen before the NCAA tournament starts next week?

If so, stay tuned to the local news for a story about a man running naked through the streets of a Pike Road neighborhood rejoicing over a "miracle"...

jtrippe, where did you hear that Dish is adding locals in HD for the Montgomery area this month? Is it pretty reliable?

Is there any possibilty it'll happen before the NCAA tournament starts next week?

If so, stay tuned to the local news for a story about a man running naked through the streets of a Pike Road neighborhood rejoicing over a "miracle"...

Taken from Charlie Chat last night on DISH: Charlie is Charles Ergen head of DISH:

MARCH HD LOCAL MARKET LAUNCHES
Albany, GA; Bakersfield, CA; Corpus Christi, TX; Duluth, MN; Erie, PA;
Eugene, OR; Fargo, ND; Indianapolis, IN; Lafayette, LA; Monterey, CA
Montgomery, AL; Odessa, TX; Palm Springs, CA; Santa Barbara, CA;
Sioux City, IA; Terre Haute, IN; Yakima, WA

jtrippe, where did you hear that Dish is adding locals in HD for the Montgomery area this month? Is it pretty reliable?

Is there any possibilty it'll happen before the NCAA tournament starts next week?

If so, stay tuned to the local news for a story about a man running naked through the streets of a Pike Road neighborhood rejoicing over a "miracle"...

The locals and new HD are finally not rumors anymore. Charlie (dish CEO)confirmed it himself. Uplinks happen on Wens. around 1:00 so we'll see tomorrow. The locals could go live then.

Did you get the impression that it would take a few days or a few months?

Tivo corrected the program guide for WAKA to work on frequency 55. If its going to be awhile for the 55 transmitter to be up and going again, it might be worthwhile to try to get TIVO to switch the association back to 42.

Appreciate whatever you can do.

For other TIVO users, they still didn't switch 20-1 to frequency 20. I spoke with the CSR a few minutes ago and they said that they'd resubmit it to Tribune.

Why does WAKA have 2 digital channels? Is one transition and one final?

Any chance of any new channels coming to Knology?

Why does WAKA have 2 digital channels? Is one transition and one final?

Something went wrong with their new transmitter/tower that was designed to transmit on frequency 55. So they fired up the other transmitter which was designed to work on frequency 42 and are transmitting on it until the new one is fixed.

If you're viewing live TV using your TV's tuner, you might have to do a channel scan to receive the station. Once they go back to 55, you'll have to do the scan again.

Ok I'm confused. I thought 42 was the new one and the final resting place of WAKA?

Anyone else getting skips & pixelation on Fox 20 HD OTA? The American Idol broadcast is pretty bad. I am getting 100% signal strength on my Dish 722 dvr.

Ok I'm confused. I thought 42 was the new one and the final resting place of WAKA?


It is , but due to the delay in the analog cut off we can't take 42 to full power because of Ch42 in Birmingham. So we are at what we can run on 42, and until we can get parts and a tower crew to get Ch-55 back on. It is a mess.

I wouldnt spend a dime on 55. Just let 42 eat like it is.

Bob,

Just for clarity.

So what you're saying is that its on 42 until you can get 55 up again and then when we get the second version of the analog cutoff, it goes back to 42?

I wouldnt spend a dime on 55. Just let 42 eat like it is.

Yeah, just forget about us slugs out here in areas where 42 isn't reaching because of reduced power. We'll just do without CBS until, oh, I dunno - June. Maybe.:)

-WIrving

Bob,

Just for clarity.

So what you're saying is that its on 42 until you can get 55 up again and then when we get the second version of the analog cutoff, it goes back to 42?

Short version, Yes. There are a lot of variables at play.

Locals just went HD on DISH, EXCEPT WAKA. As Usual.

Locals just went HD on DISH, EXCEPT WAKA. As Usual.

You have visual confimation? Looks like the uplink report hasn't posted to satguys yet.

nevermind, uplink just got posted and confirmed report. Missing WAKA, but still, a good day for DISH customers!

How do the HD channels show up on dish? 12-0, 20-0?

How do the HD channels show up on dish? 12-0, 20-0?

032-00 HD, 020-00 HD, 012-00 HD also 5250 WNCF, 5252 WSFA, and 5253 WCOV. Of course this is on my DISH subscription and setup. And I have VISUAL.

What's up with WAKA not being one of the local HDs on Dish?

What's up with WAKA not being one of the local HDs on Dish?

This seems to be a regular thing for Dish. They only activate some of the locals. I think they did that to Indianapolis today too. WAKA is uplinked. Flip the switch Dish!

I may be asking a dumb question, but after the digital conversation, the channel numbers for broadcast television really bear no relationship to anything except the old analog frequency assignments. Right?

Is anyone else having trouble with their EPG on Dish Network? All the receivers in my house are working fine except for the ViP 612. It has the new local HD channels, minus WAKA. All the local HD channels have the immediate program in the EPG, and the next program in the EPG, but nothing beyond that. It's listed as "No Information". And I can't get the 612 to update it. Any suggestions?

Locals just went HD on DISH, EXCEPT WAKA. As Usual.

Grandpa, you slay me! Have you ever issued a compliment in your life?
That's OK. The BIG 8 still has a happy face for us all.

Look, here'e the deal with WAKA-HD on Dish: For 2 weeks we have been talking to Dish at each shift change (every 8 hours). They call us to confirm reception difficulties on WAKA-DT. We have told them many times that their problems are not normal and should be checked at their Montgomery receive site. Monday, I finally got Dish to slip me the number of the guy in charge of the local receive site (he is a contractor and works South Alabama and North Florida). He had no idea of the weeks-old problem. Once I talked to him, he knew what was wrong. Unfortunately, he is traveling and will not be in Montgomery until Monday. He promised to have it fixed then. And FYI, the SD feed is still OK because Dish takes a fiber feed there.

Anyone else getting skips & pixelation on Fox 20 HD OTA? The American Idol broadcast is pretty bad. I am getting 100% signal strength on my Dish 722 dvr.

I had occasional "hits" scattered throughout. 100% SNR on Samsung 260.

*sarcastically* DTV is AWESOME!! :rolleyes:

Did you get the impression that it would take a few days or a few months?

Tivo corrected the program guide for WAKA to work on frequency 55. If its going to be awhile for the 55 transmitter to be up and going again, it might be worthwhile to try to get TIVO to switch the association back to 42.

Appreciate whatever you can do.

For other TIVO users, they still didn't switch 20-1 to frequency 20. I spoke with the CSR a few minutes ago and they said that they'd resubmit it to Tribune.

I just got my Tivo box yesterday and I'm guess this is still a problem for everyone?

BTW, I still have no WAKA. The auto-scan holds a bit on 42, but reception isn't strong enough to lock it in. So close! I suppose I may need to invest in a larger antenna. :)

[QUOTE=WAKA-DT 8;16019522]Grandpa, you slay me! Have you ever issued a compliment in your life?

Yes.

Hey everyone. I got my problem with the 612 sorted out, and I even got to speak with a Dish representative in regards to WAKA. WAKA-DT's answer is much appreciated, but I always like to get confirmation from the source if I can. So here's something from the conversation I just had with a Dish representative.

(24DrDcb) Jerry D. C2S: Ok, Mr. [Name Removed By Poster], we have confirmed that it has been delayed, and may be online as soon as the 18th, but we can't confirm that date 100%. I am sorry for the inconvenience.

Please, no hate mail to this guy. He couldn't have been more helpful. So it's a bit of a drag, but they are aware of the problem and it is being worked on.

Yea, if you have a problem with guide info not showing up on Dish DVRs you need to force a guide download. You do this by going to the "point dish" menu and choosing "check switch" then click on "test." Once the test is complete and you exit all the menus your box should reacquire the sat signal then download the updated guide info. I had to do this to get the new BET Jazz HD station to show up today.

Hope the WAKA issue is sorted out quickly, guess I can live with 3 out of 4 for now.

I'm just so excited to not have to depend on my OTA any more!!!!!

American Idol is not in HD tonight.

How come? What a way to piss off people who got their hopes up.

How come?

A commonly asked question to our infamous Montgomery, AL stations.

I know this won't be news to some of you guys, but for anyone who might not already be aware of it, there's a good footprint map of the spot beam that the Montgomery HD locals are being carried on; it's over at satelliteguys:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/database/Subscription/images/CIEL2_SB43.jpg

There was a guy somewhere down in the Wiregrass area who was wondering recently if he could 'move' to Montgomery and be able to get their HD locals. Looks like a big YES on that; the outer contour line (the yellow one) is supposed to represent an acceptable signal strength with a standard sized dish.

-WIrving

I'm just so excited to not have to depend on my OTA any more!!!!!

I wouldn't be taking down the OTA yet if I were you.
It always helps to have a backup. Especially in bad weather.

I wouldn't be taking down the OTA yet if I were you.
It always helps to have a backup. Especially in bad weather.
Oh, I know that. Just glad that now my OTA is a backup instead of the main source or to help out on busy recording nights.

I'll finally be able to watch an episode of Lost with out the part of your recording has been skipped due to signal lost message popping up.

American Idol is not in HD tonight.

I can't believe you guys are admitting to watching American Idol, much less complaining about the quality!!!

Now that's entertainment!!!


Britt ;-)

BTW, I still have no WAKA. The auto-scan holds a bit on 42, but reception isn't strong enough to lock it in. So close! I suppose I may need to invest in a larger antenna. :)

Getting WAKA just fine up here in Wetumpka on my H20 *TV (what's the deal with the * everyone uses with *tv?) receiver.

Since when was the Tonight Show not in HD?

*edit*

Perhaps WSFA reads AVS Forum.

Since when was the Tonight Show not in HD?

*edit*

Perhaps WSFA reads AVS Forum.

Ha Ha!

Yep looks HD to me!!! ( on my H20 *TV receiver that is!)

Britt

*edit*
Thanks for reminding me Leno was on!

Ha Ha!

Yep looks HD to me!!! ( on my H20 *TV receiver that is!)

Britt

It certainly didn't start out that way. :p

I rescanned last night and got the CW on channel 32-2. There wasn't any guide data yet. Also, Frazier is now on 34-1 and 34-2. 34-3 is no longer available. 34-1 now has guide data.

I think I'll keep my Atlanta locals a little longer. :)

Anyone have trouble with WNCF today? It was coming in fine last night when I was comparing it to the HD version from DiSH but now it is not coming in at all.

Wanted to rescan it to see if I could pull in 32-2 as well (myDiSHDVRhasnever pulled 32-2 in).

I think I'll keep my Atlanta locals a little longer. :)

Fox 5 is scheduled to debut their HD news next week.

Short version, Yes. There are a lot of variables at play.

Even more weird, channel 33/40 in B'ham can't cut their analog because their digital "40" will be digital 9 and Chattanooga's analog channel 9 didn't sign off Feb. 17, but even more confusing is it will also be digital channel 9. I guess its coverage area is different.

Even more weird, channel 33/40 in B'ham can't cut their analog because their digital "40" will be digital 9 and Chattanooga's analog channel 9 didn't sign off Feb. 17, but even more confusing is it will also be digital channel 9. I guess its coverage area is different.

We can all thank His Majesty Obama for this mess. :rolleyes:

Anyone have trouble with WNCF today? It was coming in fine last night when I was comparing it to the HD version from DiSH but now it is not coming in at all.

Wanted to rescan it to see if I could pull in 32-2 as well (myDiSHDVRhasnever pulled 32-2 in).

I just called the house and had my wife check. 32-1 and 32-2 are coming in at our house at 77% in Wetumpka. They are usually around 81%. There is a slight decrease in signal but, otherwise, it is fine.

So, I was looking for the Alabama game tonight in my guide and it looks like DiSH is not providing it in HD, only SD (even though raycomsports.com saysitisin HD). The PAC-10 tournament is showing on the FSN South HD channel instead. What a bunch of crock, why would they do that inthis part of the country.

Is this just a DiSH thing, our BHN or Charter customers getting it in HD tonight?

It certainly didn't start out that way. :p

That is sometimes the case. These guys cannot seem to get it right. I know they are trying, but just ain't there yet. I've had HD OTA in this area for four years now. It was horrible back then, and I'll be the first to admit they have improved...but got a bit more work ahead of them. Maybe by year five, they will get that switched flipped when the show starts.

I'm almost positive I watched the Kentucky-Ole Miss game in HD on Dish this afternoon. It was on one of the channels in the 9000s.

UPDATE: That channel is blank now. I only see the game available in SD on 452. Sorry for the confusion.

That is sometimes the case. These guys cannot seem to get it right. .

Actually, to be honest, it's a LOT harder to get right than you'd think. Magnitudes harder. If it were as simple as people think..for perceived simple things like "flip the switch" there would not be near as many problems as you are seeing. You'd be surprised how difficult it is on a daily basis.There have been multiple software downloads to the CBS HD receivers in recent weeks alone for the audio issues.You all deal with 5.1 as a cheap plastic cable from the receiver to the amp..for us, it's a finicky data stream that the slightest error causes grief.We in bigger markets have just about as many problems.

Ha Ha Ha!!! Boy, God has a sense of humor. The first time I try to record a show (Grey's Anatomy) on one of the new HD locals (WNCF) that DiSH just launch and it is breaking up with all kinds of pixels and blocking fun. The OTA, however, is perfect. Nice to have a backup but, I wonder what is going on with the DiSH feed because it is just WNCF (FOX and WSFA look fine from DiSH).

Ha Ha Ha!!! Boy, God has a sense of humor. The first time I try to record a show (Grey's Anatomy) on one of the new HD locals (WNCF) that DiSH just launch and it is breaking up with all kinds of pixels and blocking fun. The OTA, however, is perfect. Nice to have a backup but, I wonder what is going on with the DiSH feed because it is just WNCF (FOX and WSFA look fine from DiSH).


What's your signal strength on 129?

It's not a signal strength issue. I was having the same problem and called DISH to ask about it and the guy I talked to said it was a problem they were already aware of and they were working on it. He didn't say when they would have it fixed and he could have just been feeding me a line of bull the whole time, but I figured it was worth the call to let the know there was a problem.

Just for reference, WCOV and WSFA HD on DISH were fine last night at the same time WNCF was having their issues.

The wife was pretty disappointed that she had to watch her shows in SD after I promised her she would get to watch them HD too.

Yea, WSFA was just fine for The Office (although I had a few weird audio pops). I figured the WNCF was a problem on there end, not DiSH because when the channel would go completely out it would display a yellow screen. Normally, for me, when I loose the sat signal on a channel from DiSH I get a message on the screen saying "acquiring satellite siganl." Sense that never appeared I assumed it was a WNCF problem.

Sorry if this is maybe posted in the wrong thread but thought someone here might be able to answer my question.

Can someone give me a reason why WSFA is not available in the Ozark 36360 Zip, as a local channel under Direct or Dish? It is the local NBC affiliate for us and we are in their coverage area so I do not understand why we can't get a NBC network station with Dish or Direct.

I may be asking a dumb question, but after the digital conversation, the channel numbers for broadcast television really bear no relationship to anything except the old analog frequency assignments. Right?

FCC rule says station will use their old analog channel and let the tuner do the remapping to the correct channel. Makes sense doesn't it????

Sorry if this is maybe posted in the wrong thread but thought someone here might be able to answer my question.

Can someone give me a reason why WSFA is not available in the Ozark 36360 Zip, as a local channel under Direct or Dish? It is the local NBC affiliate for us and we are in their coverage area so I do not understand why we can't get a NBC network station with Dish or Direct.

Well DirecTV dosen't offer Montgomery locals at all for anyone so, that is why you can't get it from them.

Unfortunately, according to DiSH's website, they consider Ozark to be a Dothan market. I think Ozark is just inside the spotbeam area for Montgomery locals so, you could always do the old "moving" trick to get Montgomery locals.

Well DirecTV dosen't offer Montgomery locals at all for anyone so, that is why you can't get it from them.

Unfortunately, according to DiSH's website, they consider Ozark to be a Dothan market. I think Ozark is just inside the spotbeam area for Montgomery locals so, you could always do the old "moving" trick to get Montgomery locals.

Well thanks for the answer. I could understand requiring me to use Dothan Channels for locals except that part of our local coverage comes out of Montgomery. NBC (WSFA) to be specific. If I were to try to get Direct or Dish to allow me to get the national feeds it requires a waiver letter by the local carrier. WSFA has refused any such letters in the past. It requires most in our area to use an external antenna to obtain a suitable signal from them. Sounds like we are in that veritable "Rock and a Hard Place"!

Well thanks for the answer. I could understand requiring me to use Dothan Channels for locals except that part of our local coverage comes out of Montgomery. NBC (WSFA) to be specific. If I were to try to get Direct or Dish to allow me to get the national feeds it requires a waiver letter by the local carrier. WSFA has refused any such letters in the past. It requires most in our area to use an external antenna to obtain a suitable signal from them. Sounds like we are in that veritable "Rock and a Hard Place"!
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it has to do with the carriage rules for satellite being different than cable.

Satellite (IMHO) is under a rather unfair rule that only allows the providers to carry a channel that originates in-market. So if either provider ever does uplink Dothan, it won't include any Montgomery channels.

I live in Grenada Mississippi most of the time and we're in a market with an ABC and CBS affiliate and nothing else (well, PBS, too) and if Dish or DirecTV were to uplink our market, we wouldn't be able to get NBC, CW or My Network TV from the Columbus/Tupelo market even though that's what is provided by the local cable company.

In fact, until recently, I belive they offered two Foxes (one from a digital subchannel of the ABC station and one from Columbus) and two NBCs (one from Tupelo and one from Memphis). It's okay for cable, but against the rules for satellite. And it's a real bummer for smaller markets like Dothan that depend on an out-of-market signal for network service.

At the same time, Dish doesn't really seem that interested in hasseling anybody for "moving" their service.

I'm still getting blocking and glitches all over WNCF through DiSH. I hope they, either DiSH or WNCF figure out the problem soon.

At the same time, Dish doesn't really seem that interested in hasseling anybody for "moving" their service.
That's interesting, I've always heard Dish is very strict on that issue. DirecTV is as well. I know since I move my service regularly between two service addresses. ;)

Dish is very strict.

Direct is a little easier.

Greetings ....

Are WSFA viewers getting golf, basketball or both right now? (Saturday March 14th)

The NBC station in Columbus, GA -- WLTZ 38 - only transmits one program channel at 1080i, with no sub-channels. It has pre-empted regular NBC programming with Raycom Sports coverage of ACC college basketball. This means that viewers in the Columbus, GA market will not see the 3rd round of the WGC CA-Doral golf tournament. WLTZ plans to show another ACC game on Sunday, which will pre-empt at least the first 30 minutes of the CA-Doral's 4th round.

So, can someone tell me what WSFA is transmitting right now on 12.1 and 12.2??

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank-0-Video

B-Ball on 12.1
and as usual weather on 12.2
and RTN on 12.3

Britt

Greetings ....

Are WSFA viewers getting golf, basketball or both right now? (Saturday March 14th)

The NBC station in Columbus, GA -- WLTZ 38 - only transmits one program channel at 1080i, with no sub-channels. It has pre-empted regular NBC programming with Raycom Sports coverage of ACC college basketball. This means that viewers in the Columbus, GA market will not see the 3rd round of the WGC CA-Doral golf tournament. WLTZ plans to show another ACC game on Sunday, which will pre-empt at least the first 30 minutes of the CA-Doral's 4th round.

So, can someone tell me what WSFA is transmitting right now on 12.1 and 12.2??

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank-0-Video

Greetings

BrittCrowell
B-Ball on 12.1
and as usual weather on 12.2
and RTN on 12.3

Britt

Bummer for golf fans in the Montgomery market too.

Thanx-A-Lot Britt from Frank-0-Video

Greetings ....

Are WSFA viewers getting golf, basketball or both right now? (Saturday March 14th)

The NBC station in Columbus, GA -- WLTZ 38 - only transmits one program channel at 1080i, with no sub-channels. It has pre-empted regular NBC programming with Raycom Sports coverage of ACC college basketball. This means that viewers in the Columbus, GA market will not see the 3rd round of the WGC CA-Doral golf tournament. WLTZ plans to show another ACC game on Sunday, which will pre-empt at least the first 30 minutes of the CA-Doral's 4th round.

So, can someone tell me what WSFA is transmitting right now on 12.1 and 12.2??

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank-0-Video

Raycom basketball, of course. :) No golf on a sub-channel. They might tape-delay it for later tonight after SNL or something. That's what happens when an owner of a large group of TV stations is also an originator of TV programming. In addition to selling the sports to non-Raycom stations, they sell it on a lot of their own stations (most of the time at least).

I personally don't care that much for big corporations like Raycom, Cumulus, and such, because it becomes less and less about the customer...like the difference between going to CVS Pharmacy and a locally-owned and operated pharmacy (like Adams Drugs in the Montgomery area).

Oh yeah...Raycom Sports could at least be in STEREO! I mean, they're broadcasting in HD and doing MONO sound? It's not that difficult. :rolleyes:

Greetings ...

In Columbus, WTVM is owned by Raycom, which also owns WSFA. WLTZ is owned by SagamoreHill Broadcasting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SagamoreHill_Broadcasting).

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank-0-Video

In Columbus, WTVM is owned by Raycom, which also owns WSFA. WLTZ is owned by SagamoreHill Broadcasting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SagamoreHill_Broadcasting).

Thanks Frank-O, I knew that. :o:D While I was referring mostly to WSFA, I had Columbus on the sub-conscience and transferred TVM to LTZ while I was writing!

Yea and while all of that is going on ESPN and ESPNII are blacked out.

Greetings ...

I was able to follow today's golf thru various online (internet) sources, but it is definitely NOT the same as watching it on live TV.

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank-0-Video

Yea and while all of that is going on ESPN and ESPNII are blacked out.
This is what I don't get, if ESPN2 had the game then Raycom shouldn't have been aloud to use WSFA as well. As a Bama fan, I would have much rather watched golf instead of the barn falling flat on there face (all while ESPN 2 was blacked out).

Thankfully, next year this will not be a problem as ESPN takes over.

This is what I don't get, if ESPN2 had the game then Raycom shouldn't have been aloud to use WSFA as well. As a Bama fan, I would have much rather watched golf instead of the barn falling flat on there face (all while ESPN 2 was blacked out).

Thankfully, next year this will not be a problem as ESPN takes over.

Raycom Sports had the exclusive rights to the Auburn/Tennessee game (included in their package deal with the SEC), but only stations in SEC country (and maybe a few others) were showing it (per usual). Since it was the SEC semi-finals, ESPN thought it had a more national interest, so Raycom Sports sold ESPN the broadcast rights to the game (not uncommon). Since WSFA was already contracted with Raycom Sports, the game was blacked out on cable locally (and probably nearly the whole region). Blackouts are used to preserve revenues for the local station/broadcasting partners who had "first dibs" over the larger networks.

But that won't be happening any more in the SEC, since even bigger coorporations (CBS & ESPN) with bigger revenues offered a lot more money to the SEC than Raycom Sports could ever come up with, and thereby dropping Raycom Sports' annual revenue in half.

You would think, though, that WSFA would have done something to provide golf coverage -- if not live on one of their illustrious sub-channels, then tape-delayed.

You would think, though, that WSFA would have done something to provide golf coverage -- if not live on one of their illustrious sub-channels.

Networks usually won't allow that.. ABC is especially difficult in this respect.

Raycom Sports had the exclusive rights to the Auburn/Tennessee game (included in their package deal with the SEC), but only stations in SEC country (and maybe a few others) were showing it (per usual). Since it was the SEC semi-finals, ESPN thought it had a more national interest, so Raycom Sports sold ESPN the broadcast rights to the game (not uncommon). Since WSFA was already contracted with Raycom Sports, the game was blacked out on cable locally (and probably nearly the whole region). Blackouts are used to preserve revenues for the local station/broadcasting partners who had "first dibs" over the larger networks.

But that won't be happening any more in the SEC, since even bigger coorporations (CBS & ESPN) with bigger revenues offered a lot more money to the SEC than Raycom Sports could ever come up with, and thereby dropping Raycom Sports' annual revenue in half.

You would think, though, that WSFA would have done something to provide golf coverage -- if not live on one of their illustrious sub-channels, then tape-delayed.

ESPN and ESPN II were blacked out almost all day on Direct and Dish for most of the day in the Atlanta Market. In fact Drag racing was scheduled for ESPN at 3PM eastern yesterday but the game was running late so it remained blacked out till about 3:15 causing DVRs to not record.

Greetings ...

My, My - all the telly-political scrambles, fumbles and what-nots I've stirred up. I learned quite a lot from all of the last day's exchanges.

Let's remind WLTZ and WSFA to pre-empt NBC golf more often. Maybe we'll get so mad that we start a revolution and krush deese meeja kump-a-neez tah smidda-ree-neez. :D

I'm joking - like John Lennon in his White Album version of "Revolution".

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank-0-Video

Networks usually won't allow that.. ABC is especially difficult in this respect.

I guess it's either "all or nothing" with them, huh? :)

Anyone else having dropouts on WCOV-DT during House and 24 tonight?

Anyone else having dropouts on WCOV-DT during House and 24 tonight?
I did during House while watching WCOV HD through the DiSH sat. The screen went blank (actually it displayed a pinkish color) about 3 times during the last half hour of House. Kinda the same problem that WNCF had the day DiSH launched the HD locals last week, just not as bad. It is kinda disturbing that the HD locals are this unreliable through DiSH, it's almost like having a second OTA in use which is kinda disappointing since I'm paying for this version.

Look, here'e the deal with WAKA-HD on Dish: For 2 weeks we have been talking to Dish at each shift change (every 8 hours). They call us to confirm reception difficulties on WAKA-DT. We have told them many times that their problems are not normal and should be checked at their Montgomery receive site. Monday, I finally got Dish to slip me the number of the guy in charge of the local receive site (he is a contractor and works South Alabama and North Florida). He had no idea of the weeks-old problem. Once I talked to him, he knew what was wrong. Unfortunately, he is traveling and will not be in Montgomery until Monday. He promised to have it fixed then. And FYI, the SD feed is still OK because Dish takes a fiber feed there.
WAKA-DT 8, could the problem above also be causing the random problems on WCOV and WNCF coming through DiSH? If so, could you ask the tech guy to look into it as well?

Hey JimP, how where you watching WCOV; DiSH, OTA or cable?

Anyone else having dropouts on WCOV-DT during House and 24 tonight?

I was watching OTA and had some problems (blank screen with the FOX loggo that changed colors, drop outs, etc.). The majority of the program was fine, but there were moments.

Oh yea, I wasn't even talking about the few times the FOX logo screen appear. This was an all pinkish screen with nothing else for about 2 minutes just after the 30 minute mark (and once more but not as long later). Just before the pinkish screen appeared you could see a split second of blocking. I wander if it was a national issue or local?

Just ever since DiSH launched the local HD channels they each have had some weird issues while watch through the satellite. WSFA has had strange audio pops for me every now and then. WNCF, and now WCOV having break up and drops every so often.

rolltide,

I'm watching through OTA antenna.

I just went back to check and through my Tivo S3 tuner, I'm registering a signal strength on 20-1 of 70 which usually is enough to give me a solid signal, however, I wasn't getting any kind of picture. After they got their new transmitter going, the signal strength was up into the 80s. So I don't know if they turned it down this late at night or if something else is going on. Tuning to 20-2, I got a picture.

Not knowing how the uplink to Dish works, its hard to say exactly where the problem is other than to say that you were probably no worst off getting the signal off of your dish.

One concern about this whole spotbeam thing for locals in locals (lil) is that its coming off of the 129 satellite. Did Dish ever get the old 129 satellite which was failing swapped out with the new one??? Also, wouldn't it have made more sense to clone the locals onto 61.5 or one of the other eastern arc satellites as that's what most the new installs would likely be for this part of the country?

I was watching OTA and had some problems (blank screen with the FOX loggo that changed colors, drop outs, etc.). The majority of the program was fine, but there were moments.

It wasn't just WCOV up there. I had the same problem down here with WDFX. I hardly ever have drop outs with this channel, but during House last night my signal was down quite a bit....I thought it might be the rain causing it.

Anyone else having dropouts on WCOV-DT during House and 24 tonight?

I've had them for the last few weeks. It's totally annoying. It seems to only happen when 24 comes back from, and goes to break (during the ticking clock). And then it happens again when they switch between the local feed and FOX feed. I also had some audio drops/hits occasionally throughout the show; video was solid. My signal jumps between 80 and 100%.

I have random dropout problems with WNCF also. But my signal is about 60% (even though I'm less than a mile away!).

I was watching OTA and had some problems (blank screen with the FOX loggo that changed colors, drop outs, etc.).

That just sounds like someone at WCOV forgot to run their local break, again. All they have to do is watch TV, watch the clock, and hit a couple of buttons every now and then. Not hard. :rolleyes:

Phone calls to WCOV might help with this stuff, if for nothing else than to let them know what's going on.

Tim,

A few days ago, one of the station people was saying that its much more than flipping a switch.

As far as WCOV is concerned, it wouldn't hurt to call and talk to their engineer. It wouldn't be the first time we've found that the stations didn't know something was off.

. All they have to do is watch TV, watch the clock, and hit a couple of buttons every now and then. Not hard. :rolleyes:
.

And, dub a pile of spots..take a bunch of satellite feeds..check the logs and program the servers..all while trying tomake sure analog and digital are fine..god help them if they get a case of the trotts or bad sushi..and they're usually all by their lonesome to boot. :rolleyes:

....who didn't see that coming? :)

rolltide,
One concern about this whole spotbeam thing for locals in locals (lil) is that its coming off of the 129 satellite. Did Dish ever get the old 129 satellite which was failing swapped out with the new one??? Also, wouldn't it have made more sense to clone the locals onto 61.5 or one of the other eastern arc satellites as that's what most the new installs would likely be for this part of the country?

The new satellite at 129 (named Ciel 2) went live a little over a month ago. It's a beefy thing, just bristling with spot beams - they cover the entire continental U.S. I think they've finished moving the ConUS transmissions from the old satellite to Ciel 2; they've been slowly lighting up all those new spot beams with LiLs over the past few weeks.

I think putting Montgomery up on 129 was done because a) that's where they currently have the spot beam capacity, and b) there are lots of installations already out there that see 110/119/129 but don't see 61.5 (they'd need a 2nd dish for that).

I'm pretty sure that the long term goal for Dish is to have heftier satellites up on the "Eastern Arc" as well, so that the M'gomery HD locals will also be on 61.5 (or whatever is nearby). That way, people could have "one dish solutions" pointing either southeast or southwest, depending on line of sight issues.

-WIrving

I know...I was being overly-simple. :) Why so serious? :D:D:D When I would work master control at a local station, I would look at what time my local breaks were and plan dubs and feeds around them. The only "tight spots" would be when I had to quick-tune a sat feed AND run a local break almost simultaneously, but I never missed a break. I was like 5 seconds late a couple of times, though!

I know...I was being overly-simple. :) Why so serious? :D:D:D !

Oh, it's become a nightmare now at times compared to when I did MCO....
Is the feed C or Ku? QPSK or 8PSK? SD 4x3 or 16:9 widescreen? Is it HD? 720p or 1080i? How is caption handled? Is the audio PCM stereo, DD 2.0? DD 5.1?? Is the file AVI, MOV or a transport stream? oh, the DTV is glitching? Is it PSIP?, the encoder? the multiplexor? the FOX Splicer.. the microwave STL? the exciter? You can't patch anything anymore either..Is it analog, SDI, or HD-SDI? Can't patch a 1080i feed into a VTR set for 720p..is the transport stream ASI or 310m? :eek:

I understand that HDTV is exponentially more complex than analog, but when will we get to the point where broadcasts are error-free in good weather? I know the weather was not ideal last night, but I had 100% signal on 20-1 OTA and had skips on both House and 24.

Oh, it's become a nightmare now at times compared to when I did MCO....
Is the feed C or Ku? QPSK or 8PSK? SD 4x3 or 16:9 widescreen? Is it HD? 720p or 1080i? How is caption handled? Is the audio PCM stereo, DD 2.0? DD 5.1?? Is the file AVI, MOV or a transport stream? oh, the DTV is glitching? Is it PSIP?, the encoder? the multiplexor? the FOX Splicer.. the microwave STL? the exciter? You can't patch anything anymore either..Is it analog, SDI, or HD-SDI? Can't patch a 1080i feed into a VTR set for 720p..is the transport stream ASI or 310m? :eek:

LOL :)

Don't you know that digital is supposed to be infinitely better than analog? It will make television--nay, life--easier than ever before! :cool:

Networks usually won't allow that.. ABC is especially difficult in this respect.

LOL :)

Don't you know that digital is supposed to be infinitely better than analog? It will make television--nay, life--easier than ever before! :cool:

It might get a little better when you don't have to worry with the analog as well as digital.

Any chance WAKA and DISH have worked out the problem and that we might see WAKA-HD on DISH tomorrow (3-18-09)?

I'm still struggling with Tivo.

Can someone confirm that WCOV is on frequency 20 and not 16. Also confirm that WNCF is on 51 and not 32.

I'm still struggling with Tivo.

Can someone confirm that WCOV is on frequency 20 and not 16. Also confirm that WNCF is on 51 and not 32.

Definitely TV Channels 20 and 51. When I do a channel scan, it shows the actual TV channels, and "blinks" the ones that it picks up. Maybe yours does it too.

Thanks Tim.

Tivo thinks they're on 16 and 32

Thanks Tim.

Tivo thinks they're on 16 and 32

They're not the only ones confused by this mess. :eek:

Called TIVO again after their support guy didn't call back as promised. This makes the fourth call.

This time, got someone who sound like he knew what he was talking about. Said that the service ticket indicated that they had already contacted the stations that confirmed that they're on 16 and 32. aarrrgh Kind of hard getting TIVO to change it when the stations are giving out the wrong frequencies.

Who do we have to contact at WCOV and WNCF to get them to pass it along to the rest of their staff what frequencies they're actually broadcasting on?

All I can say is TvTorrents.com

Works for me, I'm to poor for a DVR!

But a high speed wireless bridge I can afford.

Britt

All I can say is TvTorrents.com

Works for me, I'm to poor for a DVR!

But a high speed wireless bridge I can afford.

Britt

How far and how fast Britt?

Called TIVO again after their support guy didn't call back as promised. This makes the fourth call.

This time, got someone who sound like he knew what he was talking about. Said that the service ticket indicated that they had already contacted the stations that confirmed that they're on 16 and 32. aarrrgh Kind of hard getting TIVO to change it when the stations are giving out the wrong frequencies.

Who do we have to contact at WCOV and WNCF to get them to pass it along to the rest of their staff what frequencies they're actually broadcasting on?

At WCOV, I *think* the chief engineer would know. I assume WNCF has someone that would be considered chief engineer too, I'm not as familiar with them. Well if anyone knows, an engineer *should* know.

Called TIVO again after their support guy didn't call back as promised. This makes the fourth call.

This time, got someone who sound like he knew what he was talking about. Said that the service ticket indicated that they had already contacted the stations that confirmed that they're on 16 and 32. aarrrgh Kind of hard getting TIVO to change it when the stations are giving out the wrong frequencies.

Who do we have to contact at WCOV and WNCF to get them to pass it along to the rest of their staff what frequencies they're actually broadcasting on?


Remember this is not a Tivo problem, the problem is w/ Tribune where the guide data comes from. All we can do is call Tivo and then in turn they open a ticket with Tribune to fix the problems. I opened a ticket 2 days ago about the same thing along w/ PBS channels being in the wrong order. Tivo's response was 5-7 days for the change to happen. Also you can send an email directly to Tribune through their Zap2it site.

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Remember this is not a Tivo problem, the problem is w/ Tribune where the guide data comes from. All we can do is call Tivo and then in turn they open a ticket with Tribune to fix the problems. I opened a ticket 2 days ago about the same thing along w/ PBS channels being in the wrong order. Tivo's response was 5-7 days for the change to happen. Also you can send an email directly to Tribune through their Zap2it site.

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Am I missing something? :confused:

Tribune or Tivo , whichever, checks with the station and the station is providing incorrect frequency information. Tribune/Tivo isn't going to change the frequency numbers in their system until they get confirmation from the stations. How exactly is filing a report with Tribune going to change the fact that the stations are providing bad information?

Well, the uplink's up and it looks like still no WAKA on DISH. No new national HD either.

Well, the uplink's up and it looks like still no WAKA on DISH. No new national HD either.
Well, that sucks.

If you put in a Montgomery zip on DiSH's website it list WAKA HD as available. Maybe they should change that until it is really available.

Well, that sucks.

If you put in a Montgomery zip on DiSH's website it list WAKA HD as available. Maybe they should change that until it is really available.

I think the problem is with WAKA DT. I have not received WAKA DT OTA for several weeks now.

One down, one to go.

Well it seems that we've got WNCF back on TIVO.

Spoke to the engineer over at WCOV and he said that he was never contacted about the frequencies. Not surprised. At least I now have the contact information to pass along to TIVO/Tribune to fix it.

How far and how fast Britt?

Just a few hundred yards, across a field to the neighbors. Usually hangs in there at at least 24Mbps connected to a cable modem on the other side.
Two LinkSys routers (WRT54G) running DD-WRT. I have a 90 degree directional antenna on my side running at 150mW and the other one is just the router running at about 100mW.

Cable company wanted $1500 plus to run cable to my house from the road over the span of two power poles.

DSL is not available in my area yet either.

Britt

Just a few hundred yards, across a field to the neighbors. Usually hangs in there at at least 24Mbps connected to a cable modem on the other side.
Two LinkSys routers (WRT54G) running DD-WRT. I have a 90 degree directional antenna on my side running at 150mW and the other one is just the router running at about 100mW.

Cable company wanted $1500 plus to run cable to my house from the road over the span of two power poles.

DSL is not available in my area yet either.

Britt

Cool,

I'm installing one of these in the next few weeks.

http://www.proxim.com/products/quickbridge/index.html#

Channel Additions and Changes

New HD Channels Coming Soon!

We are expanding our FREE HD channel lineup on Wednesday, April 1, 2009. We will be adding 8 new HD channels that will offer an even better variety of HD programming. The HD channels to be launched include:

ABC Family HD - Channel 315
Animal Planet HD - Channel 313
Disney Channel HD - 314
Lifetime Movie Network HD - Channel 317
MLB Network HD - Channel 318
Sci-Fi HD - Channel 312
USA HD - Channel 311
The Weather Channel HD - Channel 316

We hope you enjoy these new FREE HD channels. Look for more Free HD coming soon!

Not available in the Greenville service areas.

Cool,

I'm installing one of these in the next few weeks.

http://www.proxim.com/products/quickbridge/index.html#

I was searching earlier for information on setting up a 2100ft Wi-Fi link, and came across this "Wok-Fi" configuration...

http://www.usbwifi.orconhosting.net.nz/

Ingenious!

This one is for Baptist hospital an will be 1850 feet.

Just a few hundred yards, across a field to the neighbors. Usually hangs in there at at least 24Mbps connected to a cable modem on the other side.
Two LinkSys routers (WRT54G) running DD-WRT. I have a 90 degree directional antenna on my side running at 150mW and the other one is just the router running at about 100mW.

Cable company wanted $1500 plus to run cable to my house from the road over the span of two power poles.

DSL is not available in my area yet either.

Britt 24 Mbs? My Roadrunner never gets anywhere near that fast.

This one is for Baptist hospital an will be 1850 feet.

Oh, well "Wok-Fi" would be for play. :D I also found some more "professional" information here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-range_Wi-Fi

173 miles is listed as the maximum distance. :eek:

Tim,
When you want to "Reach out and Touch Someone". :)

http://www.usa.canon.com/html/industrial_canobeam/canobeam/canobeam130.html

Tim,
When you want to "Reach out and Touch Someone". :)

http://www.usa.canon.com/html/industrial_canobeam/canobeam/canobeam130.html

That's pretty cool. But my wallet just groaned!

WAKA guys: what's the latest news on the transmitter problems?

I remember thinking a few weeks ago: I sure hope WAKA and Dish get this HD situation resolved in time for the NCAAs.

Nope.

PS: I am super happy to have my other local HDs, though!

You know, I've never understood why WAKA has a sub channel that just broadcast the same thing as the main channel. What is the benefit of that? Just seems like a waste of bandwidth IMO. I thought they might use it to broadcast a different NCAA game but they are not.

Last year, in Orlando, they had 2 sub channels all broadcasting a different NCAA game during the tournament. Only the main channel was in HD, while the 2 subs were SD, but it was cool to have access to 3 different games at the same time.

You know, I've never understood why WAKA has a sub channel that just broadcast the same thing as the main channel. What is the benefit of that? Just seems like a waste of bandwidth IMO. I thought they might use it to broadcast a different NCAA game but they are not.

Last year, in Orlando, they had 2 sub channels all broadcasting a different NCAA game during the tournament. Only the main channel was in HD, while the 2 subs were SD, but it was cool to have access to 3 different games at the same time.

WAKA only has two video streams. 8-2 uses the exact same video stream that 8-1 uses. The only difference is the audio stream is different, adding only 192 Kb/s (or less) to the overall DTV transport stream. It provides a Descriptive Video audio track for those who are visually-impaired. DV is basically someone reading the stage cues (parts of the script that aren't dialog), and is coordinated with the actors' dialog, with the normal music and sound effects tracks mixed in also. It's pretty neat. But is only available on a few shows.

WAKA couldn't do basketball multi-casting without upsetting Chris Bailey :D (using 8-3 WX), and they would have to change their equipment setup to support a third sub-channel, and may not even be able to do a second without bringing in another CBS receiver if they can't use the older SD receivers. It take a bit of effort on their part, to say the least.

I just wish I could pick them up at all! :D :D ;)

Didn't realize it was for DV. That makes since and is kinda cool for those that need it. I guess, the few times I've checked it out, as how was on that wasn't using it because I never heard any DV.

Another interesting note about the audio on 8-2; during the b-ball games it is just the background audio, no announcers. To be honest, it is almost more fun to watch it without the announcers (more like being there).

To be honest, it is almost more fun to watch it without the announcers (more like being there).

FOX does the same thing for NFL and Nascar. Much easier to watch the race without DW blathering on..

That's pretty cool. But my wallet just groaned!

At $14.2K, I'm guessing it would have to have some pretty specialized applications.

FOX does the same thing for NFL and Nascar. Much easier to watch the race without DW blathering on..

Even better, just turn off/disconnect the Center channel on DD 5.1 games! :D Can't remember if it works for ESPN/ABC Circle Surround 5.1, though.

I did that for part of the Super Bowl last year, and there was this guy "behind me" (right surround) chanting "let's go Giants" off and on throughout the game! It would have been too real if he'd spilled his beer on me!

WAKA guys: what's the latest news on the transmitter problems?

Any news on WAKA DT? It is painful to watch basketball in SD.:mad:

Wow, that's cool re: DVS and the announcer-free audio! But why can't they just offer that all up with an extra audio channel instead of duplicating the video to another subchannel? Seems it make the most sense to offer up a secondary audio feed with the main visual feed, a la SAP on analog broadcasts.

But why can't they just offer that all up with an extra audio channel instead of duplicating the video to another subchannel? .

As Tim stated, the video is not duplicated. It's a virtual channel that we have YOUR receiver create using the VCT in PSIP from parts of the stream already there. We did have the 2nd audio available as you say, but people would inadvertantly hit the audio button and be on the wrong stream. This way, if they aren't smart enought to read the OSD and know they are on teh wrong channel, well.. maybe they need to get a radio.

Wow, that's cool re: DVS and the announcer-free audio! But why can't they just offer that all up with an extra audio channel instead of duplicating the video to another subchannel? Seems it make the most sense to offer up a secondary audio feed with the main visual feed, a la SAP on analog broadcasts.

That's pretty much what this is. The video is not duplicated. Instead of switching audio tracks, you switch virtual channels, which gives the extra audio track. Same result. I'm not sure if ATSC DTV can make it work like it does on a DVD/BD/HD-DVD. One of the DTV engineers here could better explain that. **like Bob did before I posted this! :)

It is painful to watch basketball in SD.:mad:

It's painful to watch basketball period...IMO...lol. Losing my favorite shows 2 nights in a row!

Any news on WAKA DT? It is painful to watch basketball in SD.:mad:
Looks like WAKA moved to channel 42. I just rescanned my local channels and now watching in HD again!

Looks like WAKA moved to channel 42. I just rescanned my local channels and now watching in HD again!

Thanks for the info but I still cannot get WAKA. The signal must still be weak. I can get WRBL from time to time.

I remember thinking a few weeks ago: I sure hope WAKA and Dish get this HD situation resolved in time for the NCAAs.

Nope.

PS: I am super happy to have my other local HDs, though!

I contacted Dish (again) and they advised me WAKA is up in HD as of Friday afternoon 3/20. Apparently they had 2 damaged equipment shipments in a row which delayed the cutover. So if this is not the case, let me know !

I contacted Dish (again) and they advised me WAKA is up in HD as of Friday afternoon 3/20. Apparently they had 2 damaged equipment shipments in a row which delayed the cutover. So if this is not the case, let me know !

I am watching DISH now...WAKA is not on HD yet. All the rest are on ABC, NBC, FOX.

Yea, I just checked last night and WAKA HD is still not showing up in the guide.

I even rebooted my box Saturday evening to see if it would show up afterwords, nope.

Maybe they'll turn it on on Wednesday.

Maybe they'll turn it on on Wednesday.


Hopefully WAKA-DT 8 can get them to get their act together and get it on ASAP.

Hopefully WAKA-DT 8 can get them to get their act together and get it on ASAP.



Tivo get their act together. Very funny.

Tivo get their act together. Very funny.
I think he was referring to DiSH Network turning WAKA HD on but, the same could be said for them as well.

I think he was referring to DiSH Network turning WAKA HD on but, the same could be said for them as well.

Your right...DISH

Sorry guys, I've got TIVO on the brain.

Mark has spoken with his contact as posted.
I have spoken with my contact as well. Apparrently WAKA-HD is available for dish internal use only. Awaiting an answer as to why YOU subscribers can't see it. That seems to be the mystery of the universe not only to us but Dish as well.:confused:

Any update on WAKA on DISH HD?

I recieved an automated call from DiSH telling me that Montgomery locals were now in HD. The call listed the four major networks as now available, including WAKA. The call closed with a reminder to check your guide for the new channels. SO, that is just what I did and, still no WAKA. DiSH at least needs to stop advertising it as available until they figure out the problem.

Tivo users in Wetumpka.

If you're still have a problem with WCOVDT, rerun "guided setup" and use zip code 36116. If you use internet for your updates, be sure you have your SSID name and security password available as you'll need them when you run setup.

Is anyone having a problem with the EPG on channel 20? It's a couple of hours off on my digital converter.

Forgive me if I missed this topic earlier.

Is anyone having a problem with the EPG on channel 20? It's a couple of hours off on my digital converter.

Forgive me if I missed this topic earlier.

Mine is an hour off, but it at least shows the correct minutes now. I have to turn my DST off (I think) in order for the clocks to be right.

WAKA HD is now active on DISH. Now Have ABC,CBS,FOX,NBC HD.

WAKA HD is now active on DISH. Now Have ABC,CBS,FOX,NBC HD.

Yep, I just saw an uplink report on satelliteguys that shows WAKA HD was just turned on (made "Available") a few minutes ago. I suspect that means it wasn't actually turned on until now, regardless of what Dish people might've been saying...

-WIrving

I have to turn my DST off (I think) in order for the clocks to be right.

WCOV is the only one off for me. WSFA is right on. All my others are Dothan locals and they are right too.

Yep, I just saw an uplink report on satelliteguys that shows WAKA HD was just turned on (made "Available") a few minutes ago. I suspect that means it wasn't actually turned on until now, regardless of what Dish people might've been saying...

-WIrving

Honestly, folks...it shouldn't have taken this long. Dish was communicating
with us but not with themselves.

For all you folks interested in March Madness, You can go to the NCAA web site and watch the games in HDEF, without the crappie map. The resolution is rather good. The local terrorists are at it again.

The local terrorists are at it again.

Grandpa tempts fate..:D

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=2722868

Whats up with WSFA?
Anyone else having problems?
Britt

Whats up with WSFA?
Anyone else having problems?
Britt

I just watched ER and all was fine. I see your post was earlier, so I don't know about then.

Whats up with WSFA?
Anyone else having problems?
Britt

Ok I'm ready for all Rich all the time!

I poked my head outside tonight and shined the flashlight on the antenna. It looked like it had moved a little.

So I donned the harness and shimmied up the tower before the storm rolls in.
The antenna mast was loose. I could move it with my hand. So I turned it south some and tightened it up.

Before I was getting 100% on 8 and 48-51% on 12.
Now its 80% on 8 and 93% on 12, 100% on 20, 75% on 26 and 83% on 32. Guess I found the sweet spot again.

I'm ready Rich! Bring it on!!!

Britt

Grandpa tempts fate..:D

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=2722868

Grandpa! That was Rich Thomas with the ax. You gonna let him drop on you like that????????????

lmao

Hey did anyone notice the weather warnings on WSFA are in HD?

Hey did anyone notice the weather warnings on WSFA are in HD?

Maybe I should climb up the tower and strap myself down during the storm to make sure the antenna says put, for all Rich all the time! ;-)

Seriously though, Carson Daily isn't in HD or WSHD anyway.

Britt

PS. Where the heck is Rich???

At 12:46, probably asleep.

Where would you expect him to be?

At 12:46, probably asleep.

Where would you expect him to be?

I want to know about the weather man.

The Weather!

___________
Britt

I want to know about the weather man.

He came on around 6 this morning...lol. Then they ALL repeated themselves over and over.

Okay, WCOV just screwed up big time. They just showed about10 minutes of commercials and then started an Andy Griffith Show all during The Simpsons tonight. We missed the climax of the show. Is it amateur hour at WCOV right know? So thanks for ruining tonight's Simpsons episode WCOV, please don't mess up Family Guy (it's the Star Trek: TNG episode).

please don't mess up Family Guy (it's the Star Trek: TNG episode).

Don't worry, they did... First 3 minutes is all we got on Brighthouse...

Strange, I saw the whole thing on DiSH.

Strange, I saw the whole thing on DiSH.
I wonder if that was something wrong on Fox's end. It was incredibly glitchy throughout (and so was American Dad) on WBRC out of Birmingham.

What happened to WAKA tonight? Big Bang Theory and 2 1/2 Men were not in HD over DiSH.

Same on Brighthouse. I *think* that Big Bang Theory was in HD until the first commercial then it went right on through with SD for How I Met Your Mother.

New HD channels are active on Brighthouse.

New HD channels are active on Brighthouse.

Weather maps active in Montgomery. Not raining at my house.

Question for SI FI CHANNEL HD FANS:
Brighthouse has just started this channel and wonder if its normal not to be in wide screen?

I give up this will be my last post. 8 is run by a bunch of idiots and incompetents. Unprofessional.

Question for SI FI CHANNEL HD FANS:
Brighthouse has just started this channel and wonder if its normal not to be in wide screen?
Sci-Fi has a lot of stuff widescreen, but they still show a ton of programs in SD upconverted. It's not unusual for programs to be shown 'windowboxed' with black all the way around. I think ST: Enterprise is that way because HDNet has the HD-only rights. As for everything else? Who knows.

Charles,

It varies depending on what is being broadcast.

I'd like to know how wrestling qualifies as SciFi.

Charles,

It varies depending on what is being broadcast.

I'd like to know how wrestling qualifies as SciFi.
Well, it meets the "fiction" part. ;)

Charles,

It varies depending on what is being broadcast.

I'd like to know how wrestling qualifies as SciFi.

Seams like a bunch of reruns. I do like animal planet and usa so far. As far as wrestling I agree with you:D

I give up this will be my last post. 8 is run by a bunch of idiots and incompetents. Unprofessional.

Promises Promises:D:D:D

Sci-Fi has a lot of stuff widescreen, but they still show a ton of programs in SD upconverted. .

They also have so many commercial breaks, logos, and that snipes I can't watch them.

Promises Promises:D:D:D

My Granny told me rules and promises were just made to break..:)

:DMy Granny told me rules and promises were just made to break..:)
yeah I know he promised a few months back also. Just wait for the weather maps tomorrow he will be back:D

Hey Jim, Check out new show Castle, I like it a lot

I've seen two episodes of Castle. Definately worth watching.

Check out "Burn Notice".

yes I like it. New season soon on usa hd brighthouse

Anybody having problems with WNCF OTA. The signal seems have gotten erratic for me. I had lost scheduled to record tonight but I just got home and started watching it and it was a pixelated mess (now I'll have watch it on-line). This is not the first time. I keep having to change orientation of my antenna to get it (and then doesn't always work). It is fine most of the time. The other channels come in fine.

Long time reader, first time poster.

I got into the OTA game a few months back so I am still learning. I am in Eufaula and was wondering if I should be picking up WSFA's digital signal. I have never been able to find it although I do get WCOV at around 80%. I had read somewhere that WSFA's antenna was directional and since their tower is to the south of Montgomery the signal is pointing north. Which would be the reason I cannot get it.

Although I doubt it, I am hoping one day DirecTV will call me and tell me they have the Columbus, Ga locals but I have been waiting for that for years.

Thanks

SD4934

WNCFDT OTA signal strength has been down for a few weeks.

Dish CEO Charlie Ergen stated on his "Charlie Chat" program on March 6, 2009 that the seven Viacom channels (MTV, BET, VH1, CMT, Nick, Spike and Comedy Central) would launch on April 1. However, it is April 2nd and nothing happened. I think we should all send our complaints to Dish at ceo@echostar.com. I know we shouldn't expect too much from Dish but the owner did promise these channels and we should at least voice our concerns.

Anybody having problems with WNCF OTA. The signal seems have gotten erratic for me. I had lost scheduled to record tonight but I just got home and started watching it and it was a pixelated mess (now I'll have watch it on-line). This is not the first time. I keep having to change orientation of my antenna to get it (and then doesn't always work). It is fine most of the time. The other channels come in fine.

Yeah, I live less than a mile away from WNCF's current DTV transmitter, and it's been erratic lately, and more recently just started swinging from about 40% to 0%. Notably I only have rabbit ears with a loop on top of my house. But still!

I've also been recently experiencing WSFA's signal jumping up and down from 60% to 0%.

WCOV is always either 80% or 100%, but there are occasional drops/hits in the stream. A VERY ANNOYING thing is with the Fox Network signal. When a show goes to, or comes back from a break, the stream breaks up. I've noticed this on several Fox shows. Anyone else?

I think we should all send our complaints to Dish at ceo@echostar.com. I know we shouldn't expect too much from Dish but the owner did promise these channels and we should at least voice our concerns.

For what it's worth (which, by the way, I realize is absolutely nothing), I went ahead and fired off my complaint. If nothing else, it makes me feel a teeny bit better.

-WIrving

For what it's worth (which, by the way, I realize is absolutely nothing), I went ahead and fired off my complaint. If nothing else, it makes me feel a teeny bit better.

-WIrving

Every little bit helps. Maybe we can get Dish's attention. There are several threads about this issue at Satelliteguys.us. The "inside sources" said they were hearing these channels would launch yesterday. I bet there is a technical issue.

WSFA 12 News - "ER" Series Finale

Posted: April 2, 2009 11:15 AM

Updated: April 2, 2009 11:15 AM

The big question tonight, how will the weather affect the 2-hour series finale of "ER"? WSFA 12 News has thought it through and has a plan.

The WSFA 12 Storm Team will interrupt "ER" on WSFA, as the weather warrants, but we will carry the finale - uninterrupted - on our RTN channel. That's channel 12.3 Over the Air, or if you have cable, here's the list of channels:

In Montogmery tune into 148 on Charter, 122 on Knology. RTN is on Brighthouse cable in Wetumpka and Greenville on channel 212 and in Eufaula on channel 227.

If you don't have access to RTN, we will re-air the entire 2-hour series finale Saturday at 7:00 - after WSFA 12 News at Six and the Biscuits Batter Up Special.

And of course we'll have continuous weather coverage - as it warrants on our digital channel - Weather Plus.

SD4934

WNCFDT OTA signal strength has been down for a few weeks.

Thanks. I guess growing pains for an all digital world. On another, totally unrelated subject, I recetly got a Roku to stream Netflix instant plays to my TV. It instantly recognized my wireless network and has been flawless so far.
The quality has surprised me. Some movies stream at 720p and the quality is excellent. The only drawback is that, right now, Neflix is limited to 2 channel sound. The Roku supports 5.1 and Netflix is working on providing it. Amazon on demand is also available on the Roku and they've announced plans to add 10 more content providers this year. I know some of you have a full blown HTPC set up but this is my first time streaming video from the internet to my TV. I keep reading about the death of disc and other physical media but I was skeptical. Streaming has a ways to go and doesn't replace Blu-ray and it's 1080p video and lossless audio but, as a supplement, it's not bad.

this is my first time streaming video from the internet to my TV.

You are in for a world of fun..have been doing this for some time now..can stream HD files live or recorded..including bluray.. from 2 servers..from satellite and OTA.. to my popcorn hour via ethernet. That is where it is all headed.

Will it replace broadcast TV?

Will it replace broadcast TV?

IMHO, when you can easily and affordably get a "big" pipe to the home..say 25 mb/s or so..then VOD for almost everything will reign supreme.

I was just about to ask what kind of connection speeds one needs to stream 720p reliably over the net. Over here in Mississippi I seem to be limited to a (theoretical) 3 Mbps, that's rarely over 2. And it cuts out 20 times a day; guess technology is passing us country people by. :(

I was just about to ask what kind of connection speeds one needs to stream 720p reliably over the net.

It also depends on if you want good 720p (broadcast quality and up) or bad 720p. It's kinda like how you can get NTSC video (akin to 480i) from a $10 web cam, as well as from a $65,000 Digital Betacam camcorder. ;):D

It also depends on if you want good 720p (broadcast quality and up) or bad 720p. It's kinda like how you can get NTSC video (akin to 480i) from a $10 web cam, as well as from a $65,000 Digital Betacam camcorder. ;):D

Netflix says that at least 4 mbps is needed for HD. My connection generally averages around 8-9 mbps (at least according to on-line speed tests) and streaming 720P looks very good (comparable to 720P on ABC). My Roku cost $99 and has a built in wireless adapter. One of the best $99 I've spent.

I am in Eufaula and was wondering if I should be picking up WSFA's digital signal. I have never been able to find it although I do get WCOV at around 80%. I had read somewhere that WSFA's antenna was directional and since their tower is to the south of Montgomery the signal is pointing north. Which would be the reason I cannot get it.

WCOV's signal is more directional north. Seems to me if you are picking up WCOV then you should also get WSFA. I am receiving both in Ozark with almost same signal strength.

Also WSFA is on digital channel 14...maybe that's why you aren't getting it?

C'mon Fox (WCOV) do your job! - Flip the HD switch. You had it on till 3:42 P.M., then it went back to SD.

3:58 P.M. - Thanks! Talk to ya next week--I'm sure!

Westro

Rerun your channel scan.

Yeah, I live less than a mile away from WNCF's current DTV transmitter, and it's been erratic lately, and more recently just started swinging from about 40% to 0%. Notably I only have rabbit ears with a loop on top of my house. But still!

I've also been recently experiencing WSFA's signal jumping up and down from 60% to 0%.

WCOV is always either 80% or 100%, but there are occasional drops/hits in the stream. A VERY ANNOYING thing is with the Fox Network signal. When a show goes to, or comes back from a break, the stream breaks up. I've noticed this on several Fox shows. Anyone else?

Don't forget the leaves are out. It does make a difference. This isn't analog!

What is your current estimate of when DT8 will have your Ch-55 OTA xmitter back online at full power?

We miss the weather feed on 8-3 and the 8-1 HD feed on Ch-42 is lower power.

Thanks,

I've been reading this forum for a couple of weeks but haven't seen this problem. I can't tune to 5252 or 52anything to get the local HD channels. Any help is appreciated. I do get local OTA - most of the time.
Thanks

According to Dish, I need to set up a dish 1000.2. I'm currently at 65.1. Hope this helps somebody else.

Yea, our local HD channels are only on 129 right now. Hopefully you will not have to pay to get the correct dish installed.

My signal for WNCFDT (32) OTA has dropped a little more and am having a terrible time keeping a signal locked on.

Don't know if the winds had anything to do with it.

How is your OTA signal for WNCFDT?

Thanks for the ideas guys.

I have tried scanning and using the Montgomery zip code on my HR20 and still no luck. I have used a range of antennas to see what I get. I could never get WSFA with a CM4228 or a Radio Shack U-75R. I have an omnidirectional antenna on the way. I am curious to see if that helps me at all. As trying to get Columbus and Dothan at the same time is making me want to cry at nights.

My signal for WNCFDT (32) OTA has dropped a little more and am having a terrible time keeping a signal locked on.

Don't know if the winds had anything to do with it.

How is your OTA signal for WNCFDT? Not good. I wanted to record Lost tomorrow night since I won't be home, looks like I'll be watching on-line again. Looks like if you don't get your local channels via cable or satellite, it's getting to be a hit or miss situation.

Stan,

I think Brighthouse gets their signal OTA as well.

So if we're not getting WNCF OTA, then Brighthouse cable users probably aren't either.

Charles,
If you're still on Brighthouse, are you getting WNCFDT??

Anyone having lip sync problems with FOX on DISH? It was bad last night w/24 and it's still off tonight on American Idol?

Stan,

I think Brighthouse gets their signal OTA as well.

So if we're not getting WNCF OTA, then Brighthouse cable users probably aren't either.

Charles,
If you're still on Brighthouse, are you getting WNCFDT?? I am as of now some minor pix. Are we talking about 32 abc? I recorded Lost and had no issues also Castle(I think that was 32)

Charles,

Yes, WNCFDT is 32-1 is ABC.

No problems last night I will check today and tonight

Jim,
Watching 32 now Good Morning America HD,ok as of now

Thanks Charles,

I just checked 32-1 and I'm not getting enough of a signal to get a picture at all.

Sounds like an antenna related problem. :o

I wii check my OTA NOW

My OTA signal 75 to 80,. Picture ok