Originally posted by FAiello
WSBKDT is on tonight with my QAM tuner.

Can't find it with my Fusion. But it can't find WB either. So I will try with the Panasonic later.

Are you sure it's not ADS?

I checked my 6412 about 20 minutes ago (it's 11:20PM on Thursday night) and it's registering 838 as a selectable channel, though it says "This channel will be available shortly." I'm curious to see how the quality of HD on WSBK compares to such channels as INHD or Discovery HD.

Originally posted by tennberg
I checked my 6412 about 20 minutes ago (it's 11:20PM on Thursday night) and it's registering 838 as a selectable channel, though it says "This channel will be available shortly." I'm curious to see how the quality of HD on WSBK compares to such channels as INHD or Discovery HD.

not on the box yet in Lawrence.

I was told that they throw the switch at midnight.

Gonna bypass WILAY in order to record Enterprise in HD!

Originally posted by stephenju
Can't find it with my Fusion. But it can't find WB either. So I will try with the Panasonic later.

Are you sure it's not ADS?

583.75 mhz is the frequency for WLVIDT

Hope this is of some help

Just saw channel 838 at 12:26am.

A furniture commercial never looked so good!

Originally posted by tennberg
I checked my 6412 about 20 minutes ago (it's 11:20PM on Thursday night) and it's registering 838 as a selectable channel, though it says "This channel will be available shortly." I'm curious to see how the quality of HD on WSBK compares to such channels as INHD or Discovery HD.

That is the way it is at 12:56 in Lawrence.

6:19 update It still is the same way.

I am doing some moving tomorrow,and will check it at around 5pm.

(The cable stays on here and the service will be switched to my new place on Monday.)

If 838 is on I will record Enteprise.

Otherwise WILAY here i come.

JOA always gets recorded!

No, it is encrypted.

Thanks. Any reports that this will be reaired on 38 or 4 in HD? Is anybody doing HD news coverage worth recording? I may just send one of the EyeTVs back to record some SD newscasts of the festivities.

I know WEEI will be having the audio for game 4 later tonight. Hopefully, they keep the webstream up at that point to archive.

A furniture commercial never looked so good!
Probably better than Upton Bell on Ask the Manager if it still existed. :D Probably, Jordans Furniture I guess?

Before I came to work this morning, (5:00 am) I checked my comcast DVR and channel 838 was up and running. All the channels had static, though, then they were fine, and then static again.

According to an excelllent source JWhip , TNT-HD is next. The negotiations are almost over and there will be a formal announcement soon. Cheers.

According to an excelllent source JWhip , TNT-HD is next. The negotiations are almost over and there will be a formal announcement soon. Cheers.

I hope this isn't an april fools joke !! Bring on TNT !!

-ken

No it is not an Aprils Fools joke. JWhip is always right. when he speaks you listen. avic is almost there. :)

Does anyone have guide data for UPN yet ? I tried setting up a recording for enterprise tonight and the guide did not have any info. I setup a manual recording for it but when I went and looked at the schedule recordings it was not listed. Does it take a while for the scheduled recording to update ?

Just in case the folks at Comcast are listening :) Is there anyway to change the guide data so Deadwood isn't listed as a first-run all week ? I have a repeat recording for first-runs only on HBO HD and it gets recorded everytime it is on during the week.

Originally posted by dozens
Just in case the folks at Comcast are listening :) Is there anyway to change the guide data so Deadwood isn't listed as a first-run all week ? I have a repeat recording for first-runs only on HBO HD and it gets recorded everytime it is on during the week.

This should be fixed with the next guide version. eta May or later.

I was wondering is someone can clear up a question for me and a friend who as the Motorola 6412 HD DVR from Comcast.

The question that I have is whether or not you have to change to output formats when going from HD to SD or vise versa or does the box as my friend contends automatically change it on its own? I contend that you have to change from 1080i or 720p to 480i when watching SD programing that the box won't automatically switch.

Thanks in advance

steverobertson - The box will "reformatt" (ie de-interlace, scale, etc) whatever signal comes in to the one you specify in the firmware screen. Some would argue that the scaler in the box is inferrior to Silicon Image or Faroudja's scaler. I know I change 6412 to match whatever channel I am recording in order to bypass the scaling in the box and let my display do it. I wish the firmware would do this for you.

I am not 100% certain but I believe content is recorded as mpeg2 and scaled on playback so in theory you change the "output" format before watching record material and bypass the scaler.

Here is an interesting (to me) question related to Sunday's Sox/Yankee game that I hope that someone might be able to answer:

I am hearing that although the UPN-38 broadcast will be in HD on Comcast in the Boston viewing area, the NESN feed to other parts of New England will not be HD for some reason. Does anyone know why?

Mickey

Originally posted by dozens
steverobertson - The box will "reformatt" (ie de-interlace, scale, etc) whatever signal comes in to the one you specify in the firmware screen. Some would argue that the scaler in the box is inferrior to Silicon Image or Faroudja's scaler. I know I change 6412 to match whatever channel I am recording in order to bypass the scaling in the box and let my display do it. I wish the firmware would do this for you.

I am not 100% certain but I believe content is recorded as mpeg2 and scaled on playback so in theory you change the "output" format before watching record material and bypass the scaler.

Thanks for getting back to me. I guess I wasn't clear if I am watching 480i material should I switch the box to 480i or if I am watching 1080i or 720p should I switch to those. I understand about the scaler but what I am trying to figure out is whether or not the box does this automaticaly maybe I just didn't understand what you are saying.

By the way I have D* so I am not very familiar with this box

Originally posted by steverobertson
Thanks for getting back to me. I guess I wasn't clear if I am watching 480i material should I switch the box to 480i or if I am watching 1080i or 720p should I switch to those. I understand about the scaler but what I am trying to figure out is whether or not the box does this automaticaly maybe I just didn't understand what you are saying.

By the way I have D* so I am not very familiar with this box You've been exposed Steve...you're leaning towards becoming a Comcrapper!!!

I don't watch Enterprise or the Sox, but I do appreciate the updates you provide here, as I'm sure many others do also.
I don't watch Enterprise either, but I do watch the Sox, and I was convinced to catch Veronica Mars this week too -- good show.

Does anyone have any info on UPN's PQ? I'm sure the Sox games will look just fine, but what about the network stuff? I caught a few minutes of Gilmore Girls in HD last week, and the PQ was pretty bad; was that the source, the network or Comcast?

Probably better than Upton Bell on Ask the Manager if it still existed.
Bwah, Ask the Manager! I loved that show. And the post-Sox-game show; SportsBeat? Something like that. Coming from about 15 years back, it was usually better than the Sox game. I remember once Peter Gammons saying Juan Gonzalez could hit 700 home runs.

Originally posted by dozens
Does anyone have guide data for UPN yet ? I tried setting up a recording for enterprise tonight and the guide did not have any info. I setup a manual recording for it but when I went and looked at the schedule recordings it was not listed. Does it take a while for the scheduled recording to update ?


My schedulked manual recording 758 to 902 is listed. WILAY will be rerunning Sunday evening ,and although i will not officelly have cable yet I do have that ATSC box and the reception at the new place should be better.

If the cable IS on,well so much the better. :)

Originally posted by jdoe7890
According to an excelllent source JWhip , TNT-HD is next. The negotiations are almost over and there will be a formal announcement soon. Cheers.

833 would be the logical choice.

I wonder where UNiversal JHD would go. 835 would be where I would put it.

HDNet and HDNet movies would most likely be on 883 and 884. A factor agsinst Comcast carrying it is Mark wants $1.20 per subscriber.

Originally posted by Benji
You've been exposed Steve...you're leaning towards becoming a Comcrapper!!!

Trust me Hell will feeze over before that happens. I have a friend who just bought a sony LCD with Comcrap just trying to find out information for him

HDNet and HDNet movies would most likely be on 883 and 884. A factor agsinst Comcast carrying it is Mark wants $1.20 per subscriber

I would be willing to pay $2 more per month if Comcast was to do this, isn't 80 cents a good profit ?

-Ken

I'm already paying $2 more per month. ;)

Seriously, one of my persistent complaints about Comcast is probably more reasonably laid at the feet of the originating stations themselves.

For instance, I have 0% interest in sports, yet ESPN's contract says that it has to be part of the basic tier of cable channels, and it costs, so I have to pay for ESPN if I want Discovery.

Then the local broadcasters suddenly think they can start charging money for the cable companies to carry their local digital feed on cable.

One would think that with everyone extracting money from me like this, we could dispense with advertising, but they just keep giving us more of that.

I keep hoping that Comcast and Time will be able to put together enough clout to stop this money grubbing on the part of the program providers.

Originally posted by toots
I'm already paying $2 more per month. ;)

For instance, I have 0% interest in sports, yet ESPN's contract says that it has to be part of the basic tier of cable channels, and it costs, so I have to pay for ESPN if I want Discovery.

Then the local broadcasters suddenly think they can start charging money for the cable companies to carry their local digital feed on cable.

Well if ESPN picks up Monday Night Football expect another cable rate hike of aleast a $1.00 since it will cost them almost 900million for the rights.

Isn't that the same strategy that landed Microsoft in hot water? You can have ESPN *if* you put it on the basic tier and force everyone to have it sounds an awful lot like you can install Windows on your OEM machines *if* you force all your customers to buy Windows (ie, can't sell a machine without it).

To me that sounds exactly the same!

Comcast forced big hikes on us when they were "forced" to add FSN and NESN to basic. I wish they did what cablevision did to the yankees when they said NO. Celtics and Red Sox (as much as I love 'em) should be on a pay sports tier. There are many non-sports fans out there ( I know many) who were pissed when this happened.

-Ken

Of course they'd pass it on to the subscribers.

After all, they aren't making any money at all off the ads, product placement, logos and related merchandising contracts.

Then the local broadcasters suddenly think they can start charging money for the cable companies to carry their local digital feed on cable
I've always thought that was back-asswards. Aren't the cable companies doing the locals and networks a service by carrying their content? Certainly the non-OTA networks like NESN and ESPN should be paying the cable companies -- not the other way around -- to carry their content, or else they wouldn't exist.

No 838 in Easton yet.Does everyone else have it by now.

Originally posted by Defraggerman
No 838 in Easton yet.Does everyone else have it by now.

In Framingham I have the station but then the message the channel will be available shortly. My father in Wellesley had it at noon today. I'd like to have it for Enterprise tonight but am just grateful I have cable today because yesterday someone disconnected me (by accident of course).

There are many non-sports fans out there ( I know many) who were pissed when this happened.

Ken, people that think that way have no consideration of others. And why is it always the sports channels that should have to be on a pay tier? I don't watch and have no interest in watching the following channels, yet I pay for them because I don't have a choice. I'm sure someone is enjoying them at my expense.

UVN (I don't speak spanish and don't plan to learn)
Shop @ Home
MTV
Nickelodeon
BET
Lifetime
ABC Family Channel
CNBC
CNN HN
A&E
QVC
MSNBC
Court TV
Cartoon Network
Sci-Fi Channel
VH-1
Food Network
TV Land
Disney Channel
AMC
HSN
Yes

The fans of these channels can thank me and everyone else who doesn't watch them for paying our share so they can watch them on expanded basic cable. Face it, there are channels out there that appeal to some but not to all. Fans of local sports teams shouldn't have to pay extra to watch their teams just because not everyone watches sports.

Sorry for the rant, I just can't stand when people act like they're the only ones paying for something they don't or won't watch.

Originally posted by whitecity
In Framingham I have the station but then the message the channel will be available shortly. My father in Wellesley had it at noon today. I'd like to have it for Enterprise tonight but am just grateful I have cable today because yesterday someone disconnected me (by accident of course).

Update: Just turned to 838 and it is now on air though still no guide data.

Originally posted by toots
I'm already paying $2 more per month. ;)

Seriously, one of my persistent complaints about Comcast is probably more reasonably laid at the feet of the originating stations themselves.

For instance, I have 0% interest in sports, yet ESPN's contract says that it has to be part of the basic tier of cable channels, and it costs, so I have to pay for ESPN if I want Discovery.

Then the local broadcasters suddenly think they can start charging money for the cable companies to carry their local digital feed on cable.

One would think that with everyone extracting money from me like this, we could dispense with advertising, but they just keep giving us more of that.

I keep hoping that Comcast and Time will be able to put together enough clout to stop this money grubbing on the part of the program providers.

ESPN is part of STANDARD not Basic. I do NOT get ESPN but I DO get ESPN-HD

This is why I like tier buy through. I watch cable for HD.

Originally posted by Addicted2HD4Now
Ken, people that think that way have no consideration of others. And why is it always the sports channels that should have to be on a pay tier? I don't watch and have no interest in watching the following channels, yet I pay for them because I don't have a choice. I'm sure someone is enjoying them at my expense.

UVN (I don't speak spanish and don't plan to learn)
Shop @ Home
MTV
Nickelodeon
BET
Lifetime
ABC Family Channel
CNBC
CNN HN
A&E
QVC
MSNBC
Court TV
Cartoon Network
Sci-Fi Channel
VH-1
Food Network
TV Land
Disney Channel
AMC
HSN
Yes

The fans of these channels can thank me and everyone else who doesn't watch them for paying our share so they can watch them on expanded basic cable. Face it, there are channels out there that appeal to some but not to all. Fans of local sports teams shouldn't have to pay extra to watch their teams just because not everyone watches sports.

Sorry for the rant, I just can't stand when people act like they're the only ones paying for something they don't or won't watch.

In the Boston market,Univision is on a broadcast channel and is on the lineup via the must carry rule.

So is Shop@home

HSN and QVC are part of Basic service as well.

checked the cable not on :(

checked the house antenna with the ATSC box.

Get 38 AND 56 in HD!

Yay! Red Sox for me Sunday night.

Note: Cable not scheduled to be turned on in new place until Monday.

the WSBK-DT guide data is being worked on and they expect it will be up later today. and some bad news: I got word that NESN and WSBK were unable to reach an agreement for the WSBK-HD carry on NESN so for you Red Sox fans outside the Boston DMA, you will be getting all WSBK feeds in SD on your regular NESN channel. =/

Originally posted by Addicted2HD4Now
Ken, people that think that way have no consideration of others. And why is it always the sports channels that should have to be on a pay tier? I don't watch and have no interest in watching the following channels, yet I pay for them because I don't have a choice. I'm sure someone is enjoying them at my expense.

UVN (I don't speak spanish and don't plan to learn)
Shop @ Home
MTV
Nickelodeon
BET
Lifetime
ABC Family Channel
CNBC
CNN HN
A&E
QVC
MSNBC
Court TV
Cartoon Network
Sci-Fi Channel
VH-1
Food Network
TV Land
Disney Channel
AMC
HSN
Yes

The fans of these channels can thank me and everyone else who doesn't watch them for paying our share so they can watch them on expanded basic cable. Face it, there are channels out there that appeal to some but not to all. Fans of local sports teams shouldn't have to pay extra to watch their teams just because not everyone watches sports.

Sorry for the rant, I just can't stand when people act like they're the only ones paying for something they don't or won't watch.

I don't watch most of those channels as well, so I cancelled expanded basic and saved myself $40 a month. just keep adding the HD and i'll be a happy camper. Could care less about all those other channels, it's a waste of bandwidth as far as I'm concerned.;)

Originally posted by avic
the WSBK-DT guide data is being worked on and they expect it will be up later today. and some bad news: I got word that NESN and WSBK were unable to reach an agreement for the WSBK-HD carry on NESN so for you Red Sox fans outside the Boston DMA, you will be getting all WSBK feeds in SD on your regular NESN channel. =/

avic, thanks for the update even though it's not the news I was hoping for. maybe they will continue to negotiate until 7:59 PM on Sunday and work something out. I won't hold my breath though.

once again avic nails it....................avic, what channel is next???

Originally posted by avic
the WSBK-DT guide data is being worked on and they expect it will be up later today. and some bad news: I got word that NESN and WSBK were unable to reach an agreement for the WSBK-HD carry on NESN so for you Red Sox fans outside the Boston DMA, you will be getting all WSBK feeds in SD on your regular NESN channel. =/

not to be a jerk to those outside the Boston DMA, but for those of us lucky enough to be inside the Boston DMA, we still get the sox games in HD on UPN HD right?!?!

Originally posted by Defraggerman
No 838 in Easton yet.Does everyone else have it by now.

Easton is outside of the Boston DMA. Thus no WSBK in HD. Poor poor soul.

Originally posted by ScoopsHD
Easton is outside of the Boston DMA. Thus no WSBK in HD. Poor poor soul.

damn he's right...easton is in bristol county..that sucks for eastonites.

http://cache.boston.com/sports/images/nesn/boston_dma.jpg


avic, you said that no agreement was reached for those outside the Boston DMA.....is that something that is still ongoing, can it be reached at some point?

I'm 20 freakin miles from freakin Boston and I'm outside the freakin Boston DMA.You've got to be freakin kidding me.

Originally posted by Lodef
I don't watch most of those channels as well, so I cancelled expanded basic and saved myself $40 a month. just keep adding the HD and i'll be a happy camper. Could care less about all those other channels, it's a waste of bandwidth as far as I'm concerned.;)

that is what I tell folks You CAN get digital cable withOUT extended basic.
I go for Platinum but not Premiere pak as Sundance is now part of digital plus.

What would i want Extended basic or all the movie channels? I'll take the movie channels. :)
Especially with 4 of them in HD!

off to enterprise in HD!

It is like watching an entire ly new show! :)

JOA follows!

I can see WILAY Sunday.

Originally posted by Defraggerman
I'm 20 freakin miles from freakin Boston and I'm outside the freakin Boston DMA.You've got to be freakin kidding me.

I feel for you! I'm in Middleboro and JUST make the DMA cut - I'd be out of my mind because last year watching home Friday Sox games knowing that HD gear was being used to capture images but not broadcast was torturous. Maybe with enough squawking NESN and UPN can work things out by Sunday??

Originally posted by avic
the WSBK-DT guide data is being worked on and they expect it will be up later today. and some bad news: I got word that NESN and WSBK were unable to reach an agreement for the WSBK-HD carry on NESN so for you Red Sox fans outside the Boston DMA, you will be getting all WSBK feeds in SD on your regular NESN channel. =/

How far does the "Boston DMA" extend ? Is their a mile radius ?

[edit] Nevermind - I didn't read far enough ahead and just now saw the DMA map. Funny how I am so close to Manchester but part of Boston DMA.

mac: all i can say is NESN will not carry the WSBK HD feeds this season, why i can't say. sorry kids, those of you outside the boston DMA are out of luck. but it's only 24 HD games you're missing, could be worse.

enterprise looked awesome tonight, bring on the yanks. as far as what channels are next, it's less a matter of negotiations now than how to squeeze them in. once ADS is complete (ambitious goal is still end of this month) we'll get a better idea of what's coming and when...

For those of you outside the Boston DMA with built-in digital tuners, buy yourselves a cheap indoor UHF antenna and try and get 38-1 OTA. The signal is fairly strong in SE Mass. I have no problem in Raynham.

Wow that sucks, So Easton gets shafted out of UPN because of the Red Sox? I guess so since all the other Boston HD channels are on here. What is funny is NESN says the Friday night games should be on NESN SD here but they never are, Always that fishing show on NESN and the game is on UPN SD. Oh well not a big deal. won't stop me from watching it, just PVRing it. :)

I don't understand why Bristol County is outside the Boston DMA.I't doesn't make sense to me.The fact that parts of Vermont are in the Boston dma but Bristol county is on the outside is ridiculous.Like I said before I live 20 miles from Boston.

don't blame the sox! it has nothing to do with them or comcast. Bristol county is in the Providence/New Bedford (D)esignated (M)arket (A)rea. nationwide there are 210 DMA's brought to you by the kids at Nielsen and of course it all has to do with ratings/advertising, not what makes sense. bristol county's UPN affiliate is WLWC not WSBK.

It's called "significantly viewed" not going to go into those details but because of it Boston's ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX/PBS/WB (and UPN SD) is allowed in Easton reguardless of the DMA. I would of thought UPN HD also.

I found a quick summary of the law so will paste it

Significantly Viewed, According to the FCC definition, a station is "significantly viewed" in a given county if (1) it is a network affiliate and achieves among non-cable households a share of total viewing hours of at least three percent, and a net weekly circulation of at least 25 percent; or (2) it is an independent station and achieves among non-cable households a share of total viewing hours of at least 5 percent. A station that is significantly viewed becomes "local" for regulatory purposes, that is, it can demand carriage on local cable systems, and the systems are no longer required to delete the duplicate programming of a significantly viewed station at the request of a higher priority (local) station.

That is basicly why all the Boston SD channels (and all Boston HD but UPN) are even on in Easton (and other Bristol towns that have Boston locals on them) reguardless of DMA.

Originally posted by jaydee353
It's called "significantly viewed" not going to go into those details but because of it Boston's ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX/PBS/WB (and UPN SD) is allowed in Easton reguardless of the DMA. I would of thought UPN HD also.

DMA rules are extremely complicated. Moreso when you add in sports blackout rules. I'm sure Comcast would be giving you WSBK HD if it could. It might be more Red Sox related then DMA related. Do you folks in Easton/Raynham get Sox home games on analog WSBK?

All WSBK home games are on WSBK SD in Easton. None of those games are on NESN SD. NESN provides Charlie Moore programing during WSBK Red Sox games.

Last season I had both Comcast and DIRECTV simultaneously when I lived in Taunton. Comcast blacked out the TV38 Sox games and I received them on NESN. But DIRECTV did not black out the games on SD TV38.

You can order Boston Locals in Bristol county on DirecTV now? I never got DirecTV because of that. They will only sell you the locals for the DMA you are in (Providence). I know a few people who dumped/wont get DirecTV over that.

Anyway I think they are suppose to put the Red Sox games on NESN in Easton and maybe blackout UPN38 but they just don't. I still think the Red Sox have something to do w/no UPN HD here since all the other Boston HD channels including the new WLVI are up.

No you can't. I misspoke. I obviously got TV38 over the air thru my DIRECTV receiver.

So does anyone in Bristol County have UPN38 in HD Yet? I don't does this DMA Sh!t mean I won't?

It means that you won't get UPN HD.We are outside the Boston DMA so we get screwed.

The way I read avic's post on the Boston DMA issue, it sounded as if we Bristol County-types would still be getting WSBK (as we get all the other Boston DMA HD channels and none of the Providence DMA channels) but that we'd be blacked out when the Sox play. I'm sure avic's got more info on this than I do, but it could be that there wasn't any point in getting WSBK up for 4/1 given that the thing everyone would have been interested in would have to be blacked out anyway.

DirecTV's a whole other ball o'wax, as is SD (mostly but not entirely because of must-carry.)

Has anyone with an ATSC tuner caught Enteprrise when UPN38 showed the first run episode on Saturday night (due to REd Sox)?

Is the 8pm screening in HD,or will hwe have to wait until 5/13 for an HD telecast. I know the Sat 10pm rebroadvcas tis SD only :(

I was so bummed. I didn't realize that tha Sat 10Pm Enterprise was in SD. I am still waiting to see it in HD.

3 days away till ADS starts to roll out

I noticed this morning that I have a station on 903. It is airing the same content as cn8 (ch. 3). Anyone else have it? Is it suppose to become another channel?

I believe I have a couple ADS channels out here in Sterling already. Channels 12 (WB), 14 (UPN), and the two CSPAN channels are flopping over to DD2.1 on my receiver and they are coming up QAM on my tuner. They have been like this for a few days now. Noticable improvement in PQ.

Chris

I live in Easton too, cant understand why UPN 38-HD isnt added.Will it added for UPN programming with Sox HD games on UPN-38 blacked out? Guess regulated to SD broadcast on UPN 38 analog, what a bummer. Finally got 856 on my Moto 5100 box today.

Originally posted by L Supreme
This should be fixed with the next guide version. eta May or later.

Since you guys are listening. Can you please get Motorola to change the firmware and allow native resolution out.

so this contest is definately in HD inside the boston DMA on channel 838 right?

Originally posted by macd23
so this contest is definately in HD inside the boston DMA on channel 838 right?

Titan TV does not have it listed as HD. I guess we will find out at gametime.

AAAAAAAAH up in HD noW!!!




AVIC u da man!

PQ looks amazing, no DD5.1 though...I've only got center channel

My side surrounds are kicking in and out, mostly center channel

PQ is great

PQ is excellent...sound, considerably less so. It's only 2.0 where I am; the volume keeps going up and down; and there's a slight delay.

Other than that -- play ball!

Originally posted by caernavon
PQ is excellent...sound, considerably less so. It's only 2.0 where I am; the volume keeps going up and down; and there's a slight delay.

Other than that -- play ball!

yeah, sound keeps flipping between 5.1, 2.0, and just the center for me..

Glad I'm not the only one with sound issues. Who is producing this? NESN, UPN? YES? ESPN?

I want to get the email and let them now.....the PQ is better than I had hoped for, its beautiful.

Same here keeps flipping between 5.1 and 2.0 other then that the game looks great.

They must be tweaking the audio on the fly. I haven't heard any drops or volume changes for a while, and the delay is gone. Still 2.0 though; I don't expect that will change. Years ago before the Sox went to their broadcaster merry-go-round, WSBK's home broadcasts had a surround element.

The PQ is phenominal; one of the best I've seen for live sports. Kudos to whomever is prodicing it. NESN, I'd think.

RJ seems a little off so far; he's wild, and his pitches are in the low 90s. And Matsui picked a fine time to impersonate a half-decent outfielder.

Watching the game right now, but in SD. I'm currently still shoping for an HD set. Like most here have said, the sound is off at some parts. Wish I could be watching this in HD, but will have to wait a bit longer.

Hope you don't live in Bristol County.

it's a WSBK production. and btw just to clear up any DMA confusion: Comcast wants to but is forbidden to add WSBKDT in Bristol county which is as you know outside of the Boston DMA. However this could have easily been done with WSBK's blessing and Comcast has asked them more than once to allow the add but WSBK's answer is still NO. Also, NESN wants to and has asked to carry the WSBK HD Red Sox broadcasts for the Bristol fans and WSBK has said NO. so for now unfortunatelly, greed wins the day. :rolleyes:

only other minor complaint is when they switch camera angles or come back from a graphic sometimes i get the cbs-hd blurring effect for a second.......i'm being picky though

so for now unfortunatelly, greed wins the day.
Greed? Why would WSBK refuse a request to carry their signal out of the DMA?

in Easton, only on TV38 analog is game on. ESPN News on ESPN2. Charlie Moore on NESN.. NO HD any where to be found.

Originally posted by caernavon
Greed? Why would WSBK refuse a request to carry their signal out of the DMA?

it must be a legal issue as to WSBK showing it in HD (outside the Boston DMA) and as far as them letting NESN HD carry it, they probably don't want to lose viewership (and thus advertising $$$).

ah, the downfalls of capitalism.


I hope something is worked out for you eastonites.

Originally posted by macd23
so this contest is definately in HD inside the boston DMA on channel 838 right?
yes

Originally posted by macd23
only other minor complaint is when they switch camera angles or come back from a graphic sometimes i get the cbs-hd blurring effect for a second.......i'm being picky though

I saw plenty of blurring on left hand batters. I think it had more to do with the sign on the wall behind them; I think it is one of those can only see on tv signs.

Originally posted by dozens
I saw plenty of blurring on left hand batters. I think it had more to do with the sign on the wall behind them; I think it is one of those can only see on tv signs.

no, this was a focus problem when the camera "returned" to the normal angle, it would be blurry for a split second.....this happens on live CBS HD sports broadcasts all the time, I forget the explanation but there is a thread on it in the programming forum.


hey Avic, You said 24 of 28 games will be in HD on UPN.....any idea which ones or if there is a schedule out for that?


For anyone who wants to give UPN some feedback, here is the link

http://upn38.com/feedback/

I am sending them an email thanking them for last nights stellar HD, but also asking if they plan to offer DD 5.1 in the future, and also, I thought the blurred side bars they used for the opening segmant and during graphics pages were awful.

I seen the ficus problem. was the whole picture and very annoying. not very HD when its out of focus that much.

macd, go back a few pages i already posted that

Originally posted by macd23
it must be a legal issue as to WSBK showing it in HD (outside the Boston DMA) and as far as them letting NESN HD carry it, they probably don't want to lose viewership (and thus advertising $$$).

It's MLB that forbids HD broadcast outside DMA, that what MLB EI is for. I asked NESN and VOOM about the HD feed and they both said the same thing only in DMA.

roach, you're probably 100% right, but thats pretty weak that people 30 min outside of boston (Easton) are considered outside of the Boston DMA. and EI doesn't do HD anyway... I don't get it.


Originally posted by avic

macd, go back a few pages i already posted that

I found it thanks. that means according to my NESN printout and what you've said, the entire block of games from May 20-July 24 and Aug 23-Oct 2 (season end) is 100% HD.....that is just awesome!!


while i've got your attention, is it being greedy to ask if any other channels are coming down the pipe soon?

The Sox were blacked out on Analog UPN38 in Taunton. At least I did not miss anything (Don;t get NESN).

Time to get that antenna on the roof!

If true, this is wicked cool :

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20050404005609&newsLang=en

"The IPG will also allow users to schedule recordings on digital video recorders (DVRs) that are integrated with Gemstar-TV Guide's i-Guide IPG, such as Motorola's DCT6412 HD-DVR set-top with dual-tuner functionality. i-Guide is Gemstar-TV Guide's latest IPG for digital cable that features fast, intuitive navigation to advanced interactive services such as on demand, HDTV and dual-tuner DVR options."

Originally posted by kenvt
If true, this is wicked cool :

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20050404005609&newsLang=en

"The IPG will also allow users to schedule recordings on digital video recorders (DVRs) that are integrated with Gemstar-TV Guide's i-Guide IPG, such as Motorola's DCT6412 HD-DVR set-top with dual-tuner functionality. i-Guide is Gemstar-TV Guide's latest IPG for digital cable that features fast, intuitive navigation to advanced interactive services such as on demand, HDTV and dual-tuner DVR options."
That sounds like a great feature. I wonder how the information gets from the cell phone to the 6412. Would it have to go to Comcast and they get it to the 6412, or would you have to connect the 6412 to a phone line and then you just call your box?

Mickey

I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that information would have to go through your MSO.

Avic, will Easton and other Bristol county towns ever get UPN -HD from either WSBK or WLWC on Comcast any time soon? Also, any local word on TNT-HD after reading from Magic 8 Ball, that it is coming to Comcast,nationally?

mgpt6 :

Avic said several pages ago:

"as far as what channels are next, it's less a matter of negotiations now than how to squeeze them in. once ADS is complete (ambitious goal is still end of this month) we'll get a better idea of what's coming and when... "

I am not too happy.

I moved.

I took the box to the new place. =same city

They install I get the channels i want. digital platinum without extended basic.

OI go out for a bit.

I come back nothing except BROADCAST BASIC!

2-23,70,71,96,209,217,237,802,804,805,807,825,838,and 856

THAT IS IT!

I also have the music channels,On demand (but not HBO on demand),and the MLB preview which looks extremely compressed.

The comcast reps thing .Its a new account you should have gotten a new box.

I was ready to tell them where to go but i found i have my internet access back (I had had problems with that too)

What a day.

Update: I made one more call around 1am or so The person there was able to get my channels back on :)

Just curious and don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but now that Comcast in NJ carries the Yankees games in HD via the YES Network, if you subscribe to the MLB Extra Innings package on Comcast, will you be allowed to view the Yankees game in HD? I'm not a Yankee fan, but simply trying to gage if Comcast has any interest in putting up the HD feeds of the MLB EI package.

Why oh why oh why is everything in Massachusetts so driven by greed and politics?!?!?! Here I sat Sunday night, watching WSBK in SD, all the while seething that the HD channel was beeing blocked. All on a station that I've received via Comcast since the beginning of time!

I will email and call WSBK every day until they allow HD down here on the Southcoast. For goodnes sake, I didn't even know we have a UPN affiliate in PVD!!!!!!!!!!!

"Dissed in New Bedford"

Originally posted by pcardoza
Why oh why oh why is everything in Massachusetts so driven by greed and politics?!?!?! Here I sat Sunday night, watching WSBK in SD, all the while seething that the HD channel was beeing blocked. All on a station that I've received via Comcast since the beginning of time!

I will email and call WSBK every day until they allow HD down here on the Southcoast. For goodnes sake, I didn't even know we have a UPN affiliate in PVD!!!!!!!!!!!

"Dissed in New Bedford"

One thing that may work in your favor is that WLWC is OWNED by WSBK.
Perhaps a waiver from WLWC allowing WSBKDT to be carried may be in order (at least until WLWCDT goes on line)

I know this may mean only temporary access to Sox games,but for you WLWC is the local UPN affilate.
Do you guys get WLVIDT?

I sent email yesterday to WSBK (via the contact page someone had linked to earlier) requesting that they allow Comcast to carry their HD broadcast in Bristol County. I received this response:

Dear Dennis,
The decision of what stations to carry in HD actually belongs to Comcast, not to us._ You would have to contact them directly about this problem since it is out of our control.


Thanks for writing,
Amy Margulies
Programming Department

Anyone have a better contact to send these kinds of requests to?

I don't know any inside comcast sources, but every email helps. You can email them here.

http://www.comcast.com/ContactUs/customerservice.asp

Here is the e-mail for the New England Manager - if indeed Comcast is holding up availability for UPN-HD for the Southcoast

Kevin_Casey@cable.comcast.com

I messaged WSBK yesterday about this and received no response..............................Text below

Just received this repsonse confirming a previous poster's note that WSBK is insisting Comcast is benind the decision on not carrying 38-HD outside the Boston DMA:

Dear Frank,
You would have to contact Comcast directly about this problem. It is out of our control, and the decision of what stations to carry in HD is made by them.

Thanks for writing,
Amy Margulies
Programming Department

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:59 AM
To: wsbkcomments@cbs.com
Subject: Complaint about UPN 38 Programming Questions/Complaints

Sent by Frank DeMello at Apr 4, 2005 11.58 am

Dear Sirs,
According to my info WSBK is insisting Comcast not allow the WSBK HD feed outside of the Boston DMA. As a residient of Bristol County I am extremely upset about your actions. It is absolutely ridiculous that you would do this to a large & supportive customer base who has supported your station for years but is being denied technological advancements like 38 in HD (especially the Sox) over contractual harranging.

A disgusted viewer in Bristol County.............

I urge the station management to rethink their position here before any more goodwill is lost

Thank you

it's NOT comcast! you're going off track. call, write WSBK and ask for the GM. the one i knew is gone so can't help you there. i think they may still share GM's with BZ. anyway ask to speak with him and tell them you've spoken to comcast and nesn and they both said it was a WSBK decision. contact the globe, email Help Me Hank! ;) next WSBK HD red sox broadcast this month is on the 15th so keep trying.

Even if UPN38-HD is carried in Bristol County, wouldn't Comcast have to black out the Red Sox because NESN has the telecasting and commercial rights outside the Boston DMA to all Sox games. For the same reason, NESN is blacked out inside the Boston DMA when UPN38 has the game. Getting UPN38HD in Bristol County, seems to me, is only half the problem. The bigger problem is getting NESN to rescind its exclusivity.

Even if UPN38-HD is carried in Bristol County, wouldn't Comcast have to black out the Red Sox because NESN has the telecasting and commercial rights outside the Boston DMA to all Sox games. For the same reason, NESN is blacked out inside the Boston DMA when UPN38 has the game. Getting UPN38HD in Bristol County, seems to me, is only half the problem. The bigger problem is getting NESN to rescind its exclusivity.



or getting NESN To broadcast the games to customers outside the Boston DMA on NESN HD (rather than UPN HD for those inside the DMA)...that seems to make most sense................I emailed UPN thanking them for sunday nights effort and the engineering manager told me NESN produced it..........it just doesn't make sense........I would think pressuring NESN might be the best course of action.


ps: I am stuck at work, anyone watching todays game in NYY on NESNHD????

It's crazy.

Comcast blames SBK. SBK blames comcast. The bottom line is that the consumer ain't happy, and no one's willing to step up to the bar to take enough responsibility to make the consumer happy.

If one party truly is blameless, then I agree that there's nothing they can do, and it's too bad that they get smeared by this. But, to the consumer, all we can really see are two people, pointing their fingers at each other, neither willing to own up.

It's kinda hard to get enough focus on the issue to see what's really going on. If there's a guilty party, they unfortunately look fairly indistinguishable from the innocent party. Of course, what's probably more likely is that both parties are bargaining for the maximally greedy position and neither's willing to back down an inch, even if lack of agreement ultimately means less revenue.

RoachXP said :

It's MLB that forbids HD broadcast outside DMA, that what MLB EI is for. I asked NESN and VOOM about the HD feed and they both said the same thing only in DMA.

If the above is true, then MLB is the one to blame...and frankly that makes the most sense.

Like AVIC mentioned earlier, it's just the UPN38 Friday night telecasts which is not too terrible.

Your best bet is to put up an antenna.

-Ken

A guy at teh office lives in Mansfield and just called comcast, they blamed WSBK.

Originally posted by macd23



or getting NESN To broadcast the games to customers outside the Boston DMA on NESN HD (rather than UPN HD for those inside the DMA)...that seems to make most sense................I emailed UPN thanking them for sunday nights effort and the engineering manager told me NESN produced it..........it just doesn't make sense........I would think pressuring NESN might be the best course of action.


ps: I am stuck at work, anyone watching todays game in NYY on NESNHD???? [/B]

I'm working at home so I get to keep sneaking over to keep tabs. PQ is great again - having Fox broadcast in low-quality HD last fall really makes you appreciate how good a job NESN does with HD.

It's MLB that forbids HD broadcast outside DMA, that what MLB EI is for. I asked NESN and VOOM about the HD feed and they both said the same thing only in DMA.

so wait, are you telling me that people living in Bristol won't get NESN HD either?

I am asking for a guy who I know that lives in mansfield.

Since we're all taking about the Red Sox in HD, just a little FYI April 20th broadcasting won't be on 882 due to conflicts with a Celtic HD game.

Originally posted by macd23
so wait, are you telling me that people living in Bristol won't get NESN HD either?

I am asking for a guy who I know that lives in mansfield.

I think the only issue is w/Friday night games carried by WSBK.

Originally posted by macd23
so wait, are you telling me that people living in Bristol won't get NESN HD either?

I am asking for a guy who I know that lives in mansfield. NESNHD has been carried by Comcast universally throughout New England the past 2 seasons.

Originally posted by Benji
NESNHD has been carried by Comcast universally throughout New England the past 2 seasons.

ok thats good, and it also means this cannot hold true:

It's MLB that forbids HD broadcast outside DMA, that what MLB EI is for. I asked NESN and VOOM about the HD feed and they both said the same thing only in DMA.

This controversy has gotten far too complicated. As I stated a few posts back, it's really very simple. When UPN38 televises a game, they own the rights within the Boston DMA to that telecast. NESN owns the rights everywhere else in New England outside the Boston DMA. The problem is UPN38 has not come to an agreement with NESN on carriage of the HD signal for those games. If they reach an agreement, everyone's problem is solved. If not, your all S.O.L.! Solution if you have a digital tuner, purchase a cheap indoor UHF antenna and get the games OTA.

Incidentally I'm jeolous of those of you with Comcast. The only HD games I get are the UPN38 games(OTA). My apartment complex will not allow Comcast on the premises. Instead they operate an obsolete analog cable system from within. Hopefully when I move later in the year, this problem will be resolved for me.

If you are receiving UPN38 analog, there is no reason why you shouldn't receive the HD channel as well as with all the other local affiliates that we get, something smells fishy here!

I E-mailed UPN38 and their program director about the Easton problem , and said it was up top Comcast to deliver the HD signal to Easton.
mgpt6

*KEEP calling comcast & wsbk* ;) nothing official yet...stay tuned.

Avic - Is digital PIP still going to happen ? I vaugely remember hearing that this was coming.

-Ken

Originally posted by L Supreme
Since we're all taking about the Red Sox in HD, just a little FYI April 20th broadcasting won't be on 882 due to conflicts with a Celtic HD game.
Maybe its time for Comcast to add "InHD-3" or give NESN its own channel slot. If not, I have a list of pointless SD channels we can do without.

Mickey

Just called Comcast...the csr could not find anyone to tell him that Boston even had UPN-HD. I forced the issue and he will forward my gripe to marketing whatever that means...the black hole?

WSBK is next.

It sounds like there could be a light at the end of the tunnel for us poor souls in Bristol county.Thanks Avic

...and WSBK has heard my (Bristol County) complaint...hope it helped.

Thanks avic.

I drank beer and listened to the sox in the back yard after moving some JBL N24's and my old Onkyo receiver to the pool.

then moved inside to watch it in HD. some benefits to being an stay at home dad. :)

Are any local stations doing HDTV news coverage? Interested in recording some Sox home opener coverage if possible.

I'm a bit surprised that Comcast didn't send messages through the cable box to those customers with HD boxes notifying them that UPN-HD and WB-HD were avilable in their lineup. Does Comcast just assume all their HD customers are as restless as we are and post to forums everyday to find out every morsel of info we can get our hands on, knowing EXACTLY when these channels would be active? :-)

On another note:

Now that all local channels are available in HD (well, except NECN), iGuide is rolled out, the 256QAM conversion is complete, and ADS is rolling out, here's hoping Comcast will focus their energies on furthering the HD line-up. I would love to see Universal-HD, TNT-HD, and others added, even as a second tier for a couple dollars more a month. Once we get Universal-HD and once Universal begins broadcasting Battlestar Gallactica, I will need to rewatch all of Season One in HD, as it will be like watching it for the first time.

Originally posted by Joseph S
Are any local stations doing HDTV news coverage? Interested in recording some Sox home opener coverage if possible. No...the only chance of seeing any HD highlights of the Sox would be on ESPN Sportscenter.

Thanks. I thought 5 had done this at some point earlier. I've ordered a DVHS to capture this on ESPNHD. Won't have Jerry and Sean, but then again nobody has Jerry and Sean anymore.

Originally posted by tennberg
[B]I'm a bit surprised that Comcast didn't send messages through the cable box to those customers with HD boxes notifying them that UPN-HD and WB-HD were avilable in their lineup. Does Comcast just assume all their HD customers are as restless as we are and post to forums everyday to find out every morsel of info we can get our hands on, knowing EXACTLY when these channels would be active? :-)


Or start a BIG promo letting folks know they have aLL LOCAL HI DEF channels without an antenna or having to purchase an ATSC tuner.

Originally posted by tennberg
Now that all local channels are available in HD (well, except NECN), iGuide is rolled out, the 256QAM conversion is complete, and ADS is rolling out, here's hoping Comcast will focus their energies on furthering the HD line-up. I would love to see Universal-HD, TNT-HD, and others added, even as a second tier for a couple dollars more a month. Once we get Universal-HD and once Universal begins broadcasting Battlestar Gallactica, I will need to rewatch all of Season One in HD, as it will be like watching it for the first time.

Rumors are starting about TNT-HD coming before the playoffs, April 24. Fewer rumors about UniversalHD, and even fewer on ESPN2HD. No hope right now for my #1 desired new channel, HDNET.

Rich N.

So no Starz-HD as part of the free Starz preview? Only SD is unlocked on my end.

Very disapointing not to have Starz HD in preview mode, I guess Starz is not as generous as HBO was with their last preview. I'm so spoiled with HD that I won't even bother watching Starz.

On another note, I hope the TNT-HD rumors are true !

-Ken

Originally posted by tennberg
I'm a bit surprised that Comcast didn't send messages through the cable box to those customers with HD boxes notifying them that UPN-HD and WB-HD were avilable in their lineup. Does Comcast just assume all their HD customers are as restless as we are and post to forums everyday to find out every morsel of info we can get our hands on, knowing EXACTLY when these channels would be active? :-)


I have wondered this as well....There was no fanfare when discovery HD theater was added, it just appeared one day. If i didn't come here looking every day for new channels, I would not know......supposedly they put a line on the bill that says new channel addition, but as busy as everyone is, who sees that? I bet a chunk of HD customers have no idea UPN or WB was even added......................the one area that still lags woefully behind is HD advertising and education. Its a no brainer that Comcast should be selling the fact they've added new HD channels.

Originally posted by macd23
ok thats good, and it also means this cannot hold true:



I should of clarified that local DMA and regional DMA are two different things.
Regional Sports in New England cover all 6 state, while local only cover a certain area because there are more then one in some areas.

For example UPN in Boston has the one in Providence, Hartford, and what ever other UPNs through NE.

Originally posted by kenvt
Very disapointing not to have Starz HD in preview mode, I guess Starz is not as generous as HBO was with their last preview. I'm so spoiled with HD that I won't even bother watching Starz.

On another note, I hope the TNT-HD rumors are true !

-Ken I tend to think that Starz-HD not being part of the free preview might be an oversight.

Avic? By the time I contact the person I know the preview will be over.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=528178

HD is unlocked in the Chicago area.

Originally posted by macd23
I have wondered this as well....There was no fanfare when discovery HD theater was added, it just appeared one day. If i didn't come here looking every day for new channels, I would not know......supposedly they put a line on the bill that says new channel addition, but as busy as everyone is, who sees that? I bet a chunk of HD customers have no idea UPN or WB was even added......................the one area that still lags woefully behind is HD advertising and education. Its a no brainer that Comcast should be selling the fact they've added new HD channels.

You're absolutely right. I was talking to my neighbor on Tuesday about the Sox in HD on Sunday and Tuesday and he had no idea. He checked 882 and didn't see the game so he went to UPN-SD on Sunday and NESN-SD on Tuesday. He assumed UPN so no HD and an away game so no HD.

I bet tons of people did the same thing - which would really drive folks who went to HD just in time for baseball season to have to wait a whole week!

Got a question that will seem dumb to most.

Live in the Boston area and have Comcast. Any Masters in HD Thurs or Friday? I don't understand what the Universal broadcast is about.

Thanks for your help in advance... still learning!

-Joe

Originally posted by uglyowl
Got a question that will seem dumb to most.

Live in the Boston area and have Comcast. Any Masters in HD Thurs or Friday? I don't understand what the Universal broadcast is about.

Thanks for your help in advance... still learning!

-Joe Universal HD is only available on DIRECTV. I'm pretty sure Comcast does not carry this station.

Originally posted by uglyowl
Got a question that will seem dumb to most.

Live in the Boston area and have Comcast. Any Masters in HD Thurs or Friday? I don't understand what the Universal broadcast is about.

Thanks for your help in advance... still learning!

-Joe
Weather permitting, Comcast will have the CBS-4 HD coverage on the CBS digital channel (804) from 4 to 6 both Thursday and Friday.

Mickey

Originally posted by chitchatjf
No it will be FRiday the 13th as the REd sox game dosen't start until 10pm.

According to www.upn38.com, the May 13th game is at 7:05. It doesn't specify which timezone but I would assume EST. So....all the remaining episodes of Enterprise will be on the weekends. Does UPN actually show the weekend ones in HD? I just read a post on tvtome.com that in the DC area, because of Nationals games, the UPN station will be pre-empting and not showing the weekend episodes of Ent in HD.

Starz-HD is unlocked now.

Kudos to those who are are responsible.;)

Originally posted by MickeyGee
Weather permitting, Comcast will have the CBS-4 HD coverage on the CBS digital channel (804) from 4 to 6 both Thursday and Friday.

Mickey

What a great surprise when I got home... couple of hours of Masters HD... It looks awesome!

Originally posted by deathstroke
According to www.upn38.com, the May 13th game is at 7:05. It doesn't specify which timezone but I would assume EST. So....all the remaining episodes of Enterprise will be on the weekends. Does UPN actually show the weekend ones in HD? I just read a post on tvtome.com that in the DC area, because of Nationals games, the UPN station will be pre-empting and not showing the weekend episodes of Ent in HD.

ROAD GAME AT Seattle.

7:05 their time is 10:05 OUR TIME!

WE WILL get Enterprise in HD!

Originally posted by deathstroke
According to www.upn38.com, the May 13th game is at 7:05. It doesn't specify which timezone but I would assume EST. So....all the remaining episodes of Enterprise will be on the weekends. Does UPN actually show the weekend ones in HD? I just read a post on tvtome.com that in the DC area, because of Nationals games, the UPN station will be pre-empting and not showing the weekend episodes of Ent in HD.

they will be showing it twice once at 8pm and once at 10pm.

I know the 10pm showing will NOT be in HD.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
ROAD GAME AT Seattle.

7:05 their time is 10:05 OUR TIME!

WE WILL get Enterprise in HD!

You're right....www.redsox.com says 10:05. Upn 38 should really show the local time HERE in their schedule.

Does anyone know if the game tonight will be in HD or not? The listings are a bit stale since Comcast added 838...

as you can now see, this is one of the 4 (of 28 total UPN games) that is not HD according to avic.

Originally posted by macd23
as you can now see, this is one of the 4 (of 28 total UPN games) that is not HD according to avic.

Well that's good, there is something about astroturf and HD that makes it look worse! If we're going to give up a friday night game, I'm glad it is against the Blue Jays in Toronto in week 1... Having said that, tonight is a dreadful night of HD tv (hence the reason I am on this message board)

Even though it's not in HD, it still looks better than analog 38 if you can stand the side bars. I can put up with it knowing there will only be 3 others like this.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
ROAD GAME AT Seattle. 10:05 OUR TIME. WE WILL get Enterprise in HD! keep i mind in case you were planning an Enterprise finale / HD Sox party ;) that is one of the WSBK SD games on 5/13.

Originally posted by avic
keep i mind in case you were planning an Enterprise finale / HD Sox party ;) that is one of the WSBK SD games on 5/13.

The folks involved are not concerned about the Sox game. They are interested in Enterprise.

Originally posted by DaveFi
So no Starz-HD as part of the free Starz preview? Only SD is unlocked on my end.

Over here both stations (321 and 875) are encoded. I believe the annoucement said a box would be required .OTOH I subscrinbe to Starz so I will still be getting it on Monday :)

I'm sure avic can provide more info, but FYI JWhip has reported the message is out to the regions that TNT-HD is a priority if the bandwidth can be found. Not sure if we have the bandwidth, but my guess is we'll have it by the end of the month.

Chris

funny i was just coming here to see if our own magic 8-ball, aka avic could confirm this.

Damn. I am not into sports at all so I'm really hoping for TMC-HD soon.

I wouldn't be suprised if we get TNT-HD and ESPN-2 before more movie channels are added.

well the Saturday 8pm screening of Enterprise was in HD :)

I just have to make sure that I record the 8PM showing instead of 10PM. 10PM was in SD. I'm not sure why they would shove a different tape in the VHS deck 2 hours later. :confused:

Originally posted by Shape
I just have to make sure that I record the 8PM showing instead of 10PM. 10PM was in SD. I'm not sure why they would shove a different tape in the VHS deck 2 hours later. :confused:

8pm was from the original network feed of Friday night.

10pm was from a second feed intended for UPN affilates who show each episode a second time and for syndication in the few markets where there is no UPN affilate. (Prior to ch 28 going on air, Fox 64 brought Voyager and perhaps Enteprrise to the Providence market)

One can only hope when Ch 5 shows the reruns in syndication this fall that THEY will be in HD!

Slightly OT - Watching the Masters yesterday on HD, I noticed that certain cameras (I am guessing cameras being carried rather than the stationary ones) looked very grainy. They were still 16:9, but looked no better than video feeds on the web.

What is going on? Is the technology for "mobile" cameras not available yet?

no more HBO on channel 72 as of mid may

Originally posted by rookiewill
Slightly OT - Watching the Masters yesterday on HD, I noticed that certain cameras (I am guessing cameras being carried rather than the stationary ones) looked very grainy. They were still 16:9, but looked no better than video feeds on the web.

What is going on? Is the technology for "mobile" cameras not available yet?


I believe 10 of the 52 cameras are NOT HD and are actually widescreen enhanced.........i didn't notice grain so much as bluriness.

wait, where's the sox game on IHD1?
they said they'd ahve it' it's in the 9th, and the padres are on?
don't get me wrong, I LOVE the padres, but want to see the end of the sox game.
which actually just ended.
yuk

Originally posted by chitchatjf
no more HBO on channel 72 as of mid may

chit: Wasn't HBO the only channel that was duplicated in both the analog range (2-96) and the digital range (200+)? It was always weird to see a show that was on 72...and 301 (I think that's correct)...and 870. It is nice to see that Comcast's cleaning up the listings.

Doesn't this now mean that any analog HBO subscribers will now need to upgrade to a digital box? I'm not sure how many people that is, but I'm sure they won't be happy.

tennberg:

Didn't you see the message posted this morning when you turned on your digital cable box ? It clearly stated that HBO would no longer be on 72 and that HBO subscribers would HAVE to upgrade to digital cable. I guess there aren't that many analog HBO subscribers anymore, as the HBO digital package is so much better.


-Ken

Originally posted by kenvt
tennberg:

Didn't you see the message posted this morning when you turned on your digital cable box ? It clearly stated that HBO would no longer be on 72 and that HBO subscribers would HAVE to upgrade to digital cable. I guess there aren't that many analog HBO subscribers anymore, as the HBO digital package is so much better.


-Ken Originally people would just take HBO analog to save money from having to buy into the digital package.

Now, it isn't so much that the package is better, it's just that it doesn't pay to take HBO "a la carte'" anymore, now that Comcast has made it cost the same to take with the digital package. Meaning they jacked up the price, essentially forcing people to take digital.

This is pretty much what they did with Cable Internet users, making it cost the same to take with TV or without. Which would you pick?

Originally posted by kenvt
tennberg:

Didn't you see the message posted this morning when you turned on your digital cable box ? It clearly stated that HBO would no longer be on 72 and that HBO subscribers would HAVE to upgrade to digital cable. I guess there aren't that many analog HBO subscribers anymore, as the HBO digital package is so much better.


-Ken

i think the need the bandwisth for more important stuff like TNTHD and perhaps Universal HD.

HDnet perhaps? :)

HDnet perhaps?

It's a beautiful dream, but a dream none the less.

On a different subject, I wonder why Starz bothers with the free preview ? After seeing what they are showing all weekend i have even less interest in forking over money for their programming.

Originally posted by kenvt
It's a beautiful dream, but a dream none the less.

On a different subject, I wonder why Starz bothers with the free preview ? After seeing what they are showing all weekend i have even less interest in forking over money for their programming.

I was actually interested in it since several of the movies I checked out at first were being displayed in their proper aspect ratio. Hidalgo in 2.35:1? Yep, I'm there. Return of the King blew it for me though by being shifted down to 1.78:1. They lost me on that. If that had been proper, I would have been all over adding it.

Originally posted by kenvt
It's a beautiful dream, but a dream none the less.

On a different subject, I wonder why Starz bothers with the free preview ? After seeing what they are showing all weekend i have even less interest in forking over money for their programming.

It wasn't an "offical" preview.

If it was you would have had all the biggest hits and inbetween each feature you would have a lot of call the 800 number and subscribe.

Originally posted by Chris Beveridge
I was actually interested in it since several of the movies I checked out at first were being displayed in their proper aspect ratio. Hidalgo in 2.35:1? Yep, I'm there. Return of the King blew it for me though by being shifted down to 1.78:1. They lost me on that. If that had been proper, I would have been all over adding it. Ironically the OAR films are upconverts, the crops are HD.

Originally posted by DaveFi
Ironically the OAR films are upconverts, the crops are HD.

They do run the extended version from time to time and THAT is definatly OAR even on the standard channel.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
They do run the extended version from time to time and THAT is definatly OAR even on the standard channel. TTT:Extended, thats 1. The Rock and Goldmember OAR HD as well, that's 3.

I'd say that's well worth the $10/mo.

I'd say that's well worth the $10/mo.

I thought the premium channels were somewhere around $18 a month ?

-Ken

Originally posted by kenvt
I thought the premium channels were somewhere around $18 a month ?

-Ken


he probably has the silver pkg now, $24.95, & plans to go to gold $34.95

I was being sarcastic and I did have both the gold and silver packages for a while.

Now I'm back to just Basic+Digital Classic. Not enough compelling content on the premium channels.

Originally posted by kenvt
I thought the premium channels were somewhere around $18 a month ?

-Ken

That is the so called "A la carte" price, set high to discourage folks from getting them.

The way I see it it is silver (one channel) gold (two channels) or platinum (all the channels)

Originally posted by DaveFi
I was being sarcastic and I did have both the gold and silver packages for a while.

Now I'm back to just Basic+Digital Classic. Not enough compelling content on the premium channels.

I have Basic+Digital Platinum myself. Choosing to get the movie channels over Extended basic.

It is cheaper to join Netflix than it is to get any premium channels. And the picture quality is better with Netflix. ;)

What time does sox coverage start today for the opener and will INHD be picking up NESN at the same time they start their coverage, I hoping to see all the feastivities in HD especially Teddy Bruschi throwing out the first pitch.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
no more HBO on channel 72 as of mid may

Could this be the bandwidth needed for TNT-HD ?

Originally posted by Lodef
What time does sox coverage start today for the opener and will INHD be picking up NESN at the same time they start their coverage, I hoping to see all the feastivities in HD especially Teddy Bruschi throwing out the first pitch.

Ch 882 kicks in at 2pm

Thanks chitchatjf, i'll be watching!

Hi,

I'm new here, and had some questions about Comcast HDTV in Brookline, MA.

What model HDTV DVR is Comcast providing now, how well does it work, and is that likely to change over the next couple of months (I'm moving there June 1)? Does anyone know of any problems with Comcast HDTV in Brookline? How do I find out which channels are available in HDTV? And what's the best package/deal for ordering the service?

Thanks much for any advice,
Dave.

Originally posted by Shape
It is cheaper to join Netflix than it is to get any premium channels. And the picture quality is better with Netflix. ;)

You can say that again. NetFlix is the reason that I can survive with only basic cable. :)

I'm doing the blockbuster on-line thing right now, first month at $9.99. I have already gotten over 10 movies this month !! I haven't had a pay movie channel in years.

I sadly thing NESN will be in "stretch-o-rama" until the game starts. Hopefully I am wrong, but it would be a first for non-game Red Sox activities.

-ken

Originally posted by kenvt
tennberg:

Didn't you see the message posted this morning when you turned on your digital cable box ? It clearly stated that HBO would no longer be on 72 and that HBO subscribers would HAVE to upgrade to digital cable. I guess there aren't that many analog HBO subscribers anymore, as the HBO digital package is so much better.


-Ken
Ken: I actually posted this a while before I noticed the message on my 6412. I came across chit's post about HBO/72 not being avilable after mid-May, I posted on here, and then 24-36 hours later, I got the message on my 6412.

I'm hoping I'm not taking your post the wrong way, as inflection and meaning tends to get lost in online posts.

I forgot to set my dvr for the game, does anyone know if the encore showing tonight for the game and pre-game will be in HD ?

Originally posted by tennberg
Ken: I actually posted this a while before I noticed the message on my 6412. I came across chit's post about HBO/72 not being avilable after mid-May, I posted on here, and then 24-36 hours later, I got the message on my 6412.

I'm hoping I'm not taking your post the wrong way, as inflection and meaning tends to get lost in online posts.


There goes my free HBO after 10 years thanks to Cablevison gift to my town from back in the day(lawsuit).

So is TNT-HD going to be here before the NBA playoffs:confused: , because my VOOM:( goes bye bye the 31st.:p

Still noUPN -HD in Easton. Hope it comes soon. See that WLVI HD is listed in April Comcast bill.Also, got word of 2 Analog channels changes in my April bill. Looks as if there will be 2 more channels of bandwidth for HD/Digital

Originally posted by dsm42
Hi,

I'm new here, and had some questions about Comcast HDTV in Brookline, MA.

What model HDTV DVR is Comcast providing now, how well does it work, and is that likely to change over the next couple of months (I'm moving there June 1)? Does anyone know of any problems with Comcast HDTV in Brookline? How do I find out which channels are available in HDTV? And what's the best package/deal for ordering the service?

Thanks much for any advice,
Dave.

BASIC cable (Local broadcast channels,INCLUDING HD LOCALS) costs 7.95

Extended basic in Brookline runs around $42.01

Digital classic,including ESPN HD,Discovery HD theatre,and the INHD channels (including NESN HD & FSN HD) runs $5.95

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GET EXTENDED BASIC TO GET A DIGITAL PACKAGE.

DVR is Motorola 6412 and has two tuners. Cost $15 including remote.

HD box without DVR runs $8.25

Recommended economical package:

Basic ...................... $7.95
Digital Classic ........ $ 5.95
DVR ....................... $15.00

Total cost $28.90

HD locals: PBS HD,WBZ,WCVB,WHDH,WFXT,WSBK, and WLVI
HD networks: ESPN HD,Discovery HD theatre,INHD,INHD2, NESN/FSN HD

You have to CALL to order this package without extended basic.

Originally posted by dozens
I forgot to set my dvr for the game, does anyone know if the encore showing tonight for the game and pre-game will be in HD ?

The only thing that is in HD is the LIVE telecast. The pregame WAS in HD!

Originally posted by chitchatjf
The only thing that is in HD is the LIVE telecast. The pregame WAS in HD!

Sweet. I'm glad I DVR'ed it.

Originally posted by Dale Pickle
Sweet. I'm glad I DVR'ed it.

It was worth DVRing. I watched it live and I still recorded it :) Tho now, I am contemplating a D-VHS or DVD burner to preserve the moment...

For anyone who DVR'ed the Pregame Show and Live broadcast in HD, how good is the HD broadcast when replayed on the DVR? I'm glad they presented the pregame show in HD. Maybe if the Red Sox come out with a DVD for this season (hopefully another World Series Championship) they can make one in HD, since Blue Ray HD and HD-DVD players should be hitting the market soon.

it was the same quality as live....the DVR plays it back perfectly. and not to rain on the parade of hoping for another championship dvd in HD, don't hold your breath...the 2004 dvd wasn't even freakin anamorphic widescreen -it was letterboxed (and it was filmed in HD).

Maybe Avic or somebody else can forward this suggesstion to the Red Sox or NESN. I think having a HD version on DVD of this opening day and season and last year's World Series season would be just awsome. Who says you can't add more to what is an already memorable Red Sox World Series Championship.

Originally posted by SonyHD
Maybe Avic or somebody else can forward this suggesstion to the Red Sox or NESN. I think having a HD version on DVD of this opening day and season and last year's World Series season would be just awsome. Who says you can't add more to what is an already memorable Red Sox World Series Championship.

Maybe a possibility for the future... but DVD doesn't support HD today.

Originally posted by macd23
it was the same quality as live....the DVR plays it back perfectly. and not to rain on the parade of hoping for another championship dvd in HD, don't hold your breath...the 2004 dvd wasn't even freakin anamorphic widescreen -it was letterboxed (and it was filmed in HD).

At least it ran on INHD!

Additional props to NESN for stretching the commercials so dramatic of a transition between innings. there was only one instance that I saw where HD was delayed after a commercial.
My game froze twice for 20-30 seconds near the end of the game and when I rewinded & re-played, there was a skip...

Originally posted by macd23
it was the same quality as live....the DVR plays it back perfectly. and not to rain on the parade of hoping for another championship dvd in HD, don't hold your breath...the 2004 dvd wasn't even freakin anamorphic widescreen -it was letterboxed (and it was filmed in HD).

True. Tweeter sent me a copy of the 2004 World Series Film for buying an HDTV last year (cheapstakes :-) ) and I popped it into my DVD player, hoping for something near the quality of what was showing on INHD. However, much to my surprise, it was non-anamorphic widescreen (postage stamp) and my Denon DVD player kept switching between film and video modes, making the playback less than stellar.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
At least it ran on INHD!

The INHD World Series Film is great. It is permanently saved on my DVR. They are showing it again on April 17 at 8:30p.

What a great pre-game show, something I will always remember. Give the sox credit for a class act and NESN for excellent coverage. Oh yeah the game turned out pretty good too!

Interesting article about TNT-HD, sound pretty good if the rumors are true that it's coming soon to a comcast town near you:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=526598&highlight=TNThd

I say Channel 833 for this one (TNT-HD)

and while I'm at it 835 for Universal HD,883 for HDNet,and 884 for HDNet Movies.

Cox here in enfield ct,didnt dvr the show, i set it and came home hoping to watch the ceremony and it didnt record, seemed they blocked the recording.
I went into the schedule and it showed it as being recorded but the red light wasnt on, switched channels and could record...boy i'm pissed!!!!!


I just thought of something, i have like 6 shows recorded already saved and maybe it would be too full to fit as thay showed it in the guide as 2 pm to 8pm recording....i wish the dvr would say before hand it would be too full to fit instead of getting porked!!!

Originally posted by chitchatjf
BASIC cable (Local broadcast channels,INCLUDING HD LOCALS) costs 7.95

Extended basic in Brookline runs around $42.01

Digital classic,including ESPN HD,Discovery HD theatre,and the INHD channels (including NESN HD & FSN HD) runs $5.95

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GET EXTENDED BASIC TO GET A DIGITAL PACKAGE.

DVR is Motorola 6412 and has two tuners. Cost $15 including remote.

HD box without DVR runs $8.25

Recommended economical package:

Basic ...................... $7.95
Digital Classic ........ $ 5.95
DVR ....................... $15.00

Total cost $28.90

HD locals: PBS HD,WBZ,WCVB,WHDH,WFXT,WSBK, and WLVI
HD networks: ESPN HD,Discovery HD theatre,INHD,INHD2, NESN/FSN HD

You have to CALL to order this package without extended basic.

Hi chitchatif
Where did you get this numbers?
Digital Classic is $59.43,
Basic Cable $10.70,
HD $8.25
and yes DVR box $15.00
???
Alexander

There are a few analog stations in my town moving to digital on the 24th same day TNT-HD is rumored to come live.

Originally posted by roachxp
There are a few analog stations in my town moving to digital on the 24th same day TNT-HD is rumored to come live.
Which channels? I am close to Milford so it will probably be the same here.

Mickey

Originally posted by azhelkov
Hi chitchatif
Where did you get this numbers?
Digital Classic is $59.43,
Basic Cable $10.70,
HD $8.25
and yes DVR box $15.00
???
Alexander

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GET EXTENDED BASIC TO GET A DIGITAL PACKAGE.
You must subscribe to Basic Service to receive other services or levels of service of video programming.

Recommended economical package:

Basic ...................... $7.95
Digital Classic ........ $ 5.95
DVR ....................... $15.00

Total cost $28.90

Originally posted by mgpt6
Still noUPN -HD in Easton. Hope it comes soon. See that WLVI HD is listed in April Comcast bill.Also, got word of 2 Analog channels changes in my April bill. Looks as if there will be 2 more channels of bandwidth for HD/Digital i've been away, catching up. NESN suits told me to go f* myself regarding stretching. i'm over it, they're just sore ;cause comcast wont map them their own HD channel so we can see ESPN-News and Infomerciuals in stretched SD. what asses. :rolleyes: WSBKDT will NOT happen in Bristol after all but i hear they are looking at adding a Providence solution for HD, though that wont help Red Sox fans. TNT launch date coming, i'll post what i'm allowed soon. wow too many HD channels don't you think? i miss those days whe they all used to fit on the guide without scrolling. whay WILL we talk about when Universal and HDNet come aboard?! oh yeah we can still bitch about rates. ;)

I'm always up for bitching about the rates.

;)

Any updates on the Digital Simulcast of the analog channels?

Originally posted by roachxp
There are a few analog stations in my town moving to digital on the 24th same day TNT-HD is rumored to come live.

I'm also in Milford. Where did you get the 24th from ? Did I miss something obvious ?

#9: not sure what roach is referring to.
ssetta: ADS is rolling along, even in metro boston at this point. only some channels though, then a second wave for the others. and since you're all comcast HD customers you now get all the locals on the 800 block so ADS for those is not important. for the rest keep checking your inband status or if you're not in boston/brookline just look at your flip bar, if u see the DD logo then that channel is in ADS, and you should notice the significant PQ difference especially through the DVR.

Originally posted by MickeyGee
Which channels? I am close to Milford so it will probably be the same here.

Mickey

HBO on analog and perhaps RTPI.

Hallmark may be a good choice.

Originally posted by avic
and since you're all comcast HD customers you now get all the locals on the 800 block so ADS for those is not important.

Wouldn't we see better PQ on full screen rather than the framed picture we now see on 800 for SD programming?

Originally posted by number9
I'm also in Milford. Where did you get the 24th from ? Did I miss something obvious ?

I saw it this weekend in the newspaper one is RAI, since I watch it on weekends and the other I can't remember will have to look for it maybe RTPi since it's also an international channel. It did mention about HBO also leaving.

Thanks for info Avic. I guess that Comcast might add WLWC -DT in Bristol for UPN. It is available analog in Bristol County. FYI- WLWC is the secondary affiliate for WB in Providence.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
HBO on analog and perhaps RTPI.

Hallmark may be a good choice.

I don't know if it would be a good choice to move RTPi to digital and everyone who subs to it will not like the idea of added extra cost. It's bad enough Comcast added a 2nd portuguese channel to digital#681 SPT which is crippled since it doesn't show the soccer game, unlike the same channel on Dish.

The last time Cablevision/Comcast timeframe had an argument they lost over 5,000 subs in one day:eek: .

Avic: Did the suits at NESN at least give their reasoning for stretched HD ? My thought process runs along the lines of "It looks better that way in bars" ...only thing I could come up with !

-Ken

IMHO once ADS is complete I would set a timetable 6 month MAX after which EVERYTHING except broadcast basic would be digital ONLY!

I just noticed tonight that WLVI-DT broadcasts in Dolby 5.1 . Imagine they have a Pro Logic 2 encoder for stereo and matrix sources . Anyone know if WHDH-DT
will boradcast in Dolby 5.1? Whenever a watch a NBC show it is only in Dolby 2.0. On the ADS front, my opinion is that we will analog basic for a few more years, but I can see slow migration of more niche channels going to digital in next few months. Dint think you will see CNN, Weather Channel or MTV being digital only in 2005.

ADS is STARTING in Lawrence. however barely I see the analog signal of CN8 is now mapped to channel 903 while a digital version of the channel is on Channel 3.

this seems to be the only channel digital for now.
My thing is

I get Digital withOUT extended basic,but when I try to tune uinto an extended basic channel I get snow instead of Not Authorized.

Once these extedned basic channels kick in will that mean I may get them on my box?

I live in the Fall River, MA area, about 45 miles from Boston. Right now, I pay 8.25 for the Motorola 5100 receiver so I can get the local HD channels and the HD package (INHD 1, PBSHD, etc.) If I upgrade to DVR, does the $15.00 monthly charge for the DVR include the HD tuner? In other words, if I order the DVR for $15.00, will I get the local HD channels and INHD 1&2, etc. or will I be charged an additional $8.25 for the receiver?
Thanks.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
ADS is STARTING in Lawrence. however barely I see the analog signal of CN8 is now mapped to channel 903 while a digital version of the channel is on Channel 3.

this seems to be the only channel digital for now.
My thing is

I get Digital withOUT extended basic,but when I try to tune uinto an extended basic channel I get snow instead of Not Authorized.

Once these extedned basic channels kick in will that mean I may get them on my box?

If you don't pay for expanded basic, then no, when the expanded basic channels go digital you will get a Not Authorized message rather than snow. Have to pay to play. :)

I wonder if WLWC can pass the HD just to Comcast. Their transmitter is still not online, but they source out of WBZ/WSBK in Allston and MW the signal out here to the boonies. The tower is in Freetown.

ADS has begun in Nashua, NH

Channel 903 (labelled Local Programming) is the analog Ch 3 (CN8)
Channel 908 (labelled Local Programming) is the analog Ch 8 (UPN38)

Ch 3 is the digital simulcast of CN8
Ch 8 is the digital simulcast of UPN38

Didn't get a chance to do a full sweep of the analog channel range, but that's what I've see so far... Picture quality was a little better than original analog, but not necessarily a quantum leap. Dolby Digital 2.0 output via SP/DIF output as well.

Did any one notice the digital version of CN8 is much darker than the analog one?

Originally posted by avic
whay WILL we talk about when Universal and HDNet come aboard?! oh yeah we can still bitch about rates. ;)

avic:

Is that a subtle hint that we're getting Universal HD? :-)

That was the way I took it...

I just noticed on Universal HD's website that they have begun airing regular season episodes of Battlestar Galactica in HD, starting from "33", and will be doing so every Sunday night. Here's to hoping that Comcast can get this channel added very quickly.

OT: Not only am I anxious to see it in HD (as the miniseries on NBC was absolutely stunning), but Jamie Bamber (Apollo) is the hottest thing in Sci-Fi to come along since Ben Browder in Farscape ;-)

Now you've got me drooling on my keyboard! (about getting HD Battlestar Galactica)

Is this new Battlestar Gallactica really that good ? I am a sci-fi fan but I remember the original Battlestar being really cheesy.

-ken

The new Battlestar Gallactica took a little getting used to, trying to figure out exactly what's been changed since the original. Once you're on board, however, it's a great series. Much more serious and authentic than the "campy" original.

The new Battlestar Galactica makes me not so sad that Enterprise is going off the air. Yes, it is that good. It is really dark and has an awesome story and characters. And talk about a freaking cliffhanger at the end of the season!

Originally posted by avic
ssetta: ADS is rolling along, even in metro boston at this point. [/B]

ADS has started in Burlington. I can see the following digital channels ( have not scanned all the channels)

1) Channel 3 ( CN8)
2) Chaneel 20 ( Some Shopping Channel)
3) Channel 23
4) Channel 24 ( Disney)

I just called Comcast to order Digital Classic with CableCard. To my surprise, the lady said I can just pick up the card in the local office and install it myself. I thought it requires tech to come out and install it. Has it matured to the point that we can do it ourselves? That will be very cool.

FYI tonights Redsox game on SD Nesn will be letterbox to give viewers a taste of what HD looks. They called it "Wide screen Wednesday". I wonder if they are going to do this all season long on Wednesdays.

Originally posted by stephenju
I just called Comcast to order Digital Classic with CableCard. To my surprise, the lady said I can just pick up the card in the local office and install it myself. I thought it requires tech to come out and install it. Has it matured to the point that we can do it ourselves? That will be very cool.
Just push in the card correctly and if Comcast authorize the card your tv will do the rest. That will save you an installation fee! I used to pick up cable boxes in the past and do it myself too!

Originally posted by ScoopsHD
If you don't pay for expanded basic, then no, when the expanded basic channels go digital you will get a Not Authorized message rather than snow. Have to pay to play. :)

That works.

I just don't want to be forced into having to pay for them.

I like my tier buy through Digital platinum and Basic plan.

So, if I want TNT-HD am I going to have to pay $43 for "Extended Basic"? I hope not.

They might include it with the Digital Classic package like they do DISC-HD

Originally posted by DaveFi
So, if I want TNT-HD am I going to have to pay $43 for "Extended Basic"? I hope not.

They might include it with the Digital Classic package like they do DISC-HD

Discovery HD Theatre is a seperate channel.

We'll proboboly get TNT-HD with Digital Classic.

Originally posted by videomax6
I live in the Fall River, MA area, about 45 miles from Boston. Right now, I pay 8.25 for the Motorola 5100 receiver so I can get the local HD channels and the HD package (INHD 1, PBSHD, etc.) If I upgrade to DVR, does the $15.00 monthly charge for the DVR include the HD tuner? In other words, if I order the DVR for $15.00, will I get the local HD channels and INHD 1&2, etc. or will I be charged an additional $8.25 for the receiver?
Thanks.

The DVR is also an HD box as well. So in theory you would only be paying an addition of $6.75 for the upgrade to what you are paying now.

OK. Comcast called and cleared things up. Tech still needs to come out to install CableCard. I have it scheduled on Friday. Let's see if it goes well.

Originally posted by roachxp
FYI tonights Redsox game on SD Nesn will be letterbox to give viewers a taste of what HD looks. They called it "Wide screen Wednesday". I wonder if they are going to do this all season long on Wednesdays.

a few people on one of the redsox boards noticed this and were emailing nesn to "fix the problem".....i and a few others explained that it was widescreen and all that, but i don't think they'll sell HD to joe average tv guy this way.