Not to get too much OT but what benefit is there to the Red Sox or NESN if people have 16:9 TVs ? Do they get kickbacks from TV makers ? I could see how Comcast might have a slight benefit because more people will get STBs and digital service.

Perhaps, people are more apt to watch NESN's HD broadcasts and stay tuned in longer when viewing on a HD set (I know this is the case for me and many others who I know). Therefore NESN gets higher ratings, increased viewer loyalty, and higher advertising revenue?

Originally posted by macd23
a few people on one of the redsox boards noticed this and were emailing nesn to "fix the problem".....i and a few others explained that it was widescreen and all that, but i don't think they'll sell HD to joe average tv guy this way.
I agree. The average person might say: "So let me get this straight, I get the same blurry picture, and you're going to cut off the top to make it smaller for me? Gee, thanks."

Mickey

Originally posted by MickeyGee
I agree. The average person might say: "So let me get this straight, I get the same blurry picture, and you're going to cut off the top to make it smaller for me? Gee, thanks."

Mickey

and thats pretty much what they were saying.

i told them their square box (of a tv) was outdated and to get ready cause everything was going to be going widescreen.

:D

"widescreen wednesdays," hmmm i wonder whose idea that was?! could it be the same ahole who decide to fat-stretch sd again this year? :rolleyes:

Lawrence update on ADS

Analog CN8 on ch 903.
Digital CN8 on channel 3.

My question is WHY don't they just move CN8 TO CHANNEL 8 and have the public access on channel 3?

Other channels digital
56,38,68,50,66,48,Disney (I get the not authorized),HSN,QVC

Originally posted by avic
"widescreen wednesdays," hmmm i wonder whose idea that was?! could it be the same ahole who decide to fat-stretch sd again this year? :rolleyes:

Personally I think it's a good idea (widescreen Wednesday.,which they got from Starz Cinema) not fat-sctretched-SD.

Ther eis a possibility that next year's Super bowl will ber shot with 16:9 in mind and be shown letterbox on the 4:3 signal.

Who's doing the SuperBowl next year ? ABC ?

[edit] Confirmed. ABC will cover the 2006 SuperBowl in Detroit.

thats sweet....thank god FOX isnt doing it. terrible picture but great braodcasters.

Originally posted by bruman
thats sweet....thank god FOX isnt doing it. terrible picture but great braodcasters.

Agreed. They geniunely seem to broadcast HD only because everyone else is. The PQ is significantly worse than ABC/ESPN, NESN, and CBS. NBC's HD sports coverage is practically non-existent but Leno looks good when he's doesn't look like a cubist era painting....

Originally posted by chitchatjf
Personally I think it's a good idea (widescreen Wednesday.,which they got from Starz Cinema) not fat-sctretched-SD.

Ther eis a possibility that next year's Super bowl will ber shot with 16:9 in mind and be shown letterbox on the 4:3 signal.

actually you bring up a great point...many of us with our 16:9 WS displays hate it when they frame sports and any event specifically for the 4:3 'safe zone', which ends up giving us nosebleed sideline and courtside views of our hd action........if they start shooting these for 16:9 we should get tighter sharper hd shots. screw the 4:3 people......maybe this will force them to upgrade.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chitchatjf
[B]Lawrence update on ADS

Analog CN8 on ch 903.
Digital CN8 on channel 3.

My question is WHY don't they just move CN8 TO CHANNEL 8 and have the public access on channel 3?

CN8 is on channel 3 in most Boston area towns due to branding that goes back to the old MediaOne 3. In addition, most public access channels were forced off channel 3 back then, so they've been angered enough. The Malden area and Brookline are the only areas where CN8 isn't on channel 3. The analog feed on channel 903 is for building locations that insert a front door security camera on cable channel 3. Those sites didn't get CN8 before.

Channel 8 here is The Hallmark Channel, a recent edition. Not sure why they'd add a new analog channel, but there it is. One of the few SD channels I actually watch- Northern Exposure is on there.

Originally posted by noreaster0
[QUOTE]Originally posted by chitchatjf
[B]Lawrence update on ADS

Analog CN8 on ch 903.
Digital CN8 on channel 3.

My question is WHY don't they just move CN8 TO CHANNEL 8 and have the public access on channel 3?

CN8 is on channel 3 in most Boston area towns due to branding that goes back to the old MediaOne 3. In addition, most public access channels were forced off channel 3 back then, so they've been angered enough. The Malden area and Brookline are the only areas where CN8 isn't on channel 3. The analog feed on channel 903 is for building locations that insert a front door security camera on cable channel 3. Those sites didn't get CN8 before.

My new building puts the security channel on Channel 13,and ONLY on the community antenna system. Since I use component inputs for my cable , iconnect that antenna to the NTSC/RF input.

I have a question about TNT-HD -- what sort of programming does it run? Is it a simulcast like ABC/CBS/etc., or do they show specials all day like DHD and PBS (aka, "Yeah, yeah, I've seen it before; where's Mythbusters/New Yankee Workshop in HD?").

Originally posted by caernavon
I have a question about TNT-HD -- what sort of programming does it run? Is it a simulcast like ABC/CBS/etc., or do they show specials all day like DHD and PBS (aka, "Yeah, yeah, I've seen it before; where's Mythbusters/New Yankee Workshop in HD?").

http://www.tnt.tv/Schedule

Originally posted by Kaiser-Soze
http://www.tnt.tv/Schedule
But it doesn't say which programs are in HD, or am I missing something?

OK. Tech came and went in 20 minutes. Installation of the CableCard was smooth. Plugged in the card and 2 phone calls later, I have Digital Classic. Very cool. Tech said I am lucky for his last install took over 2 hours. :)

But it doesn't say which programs are in HD, or am I missing something?
Check out the HDTV Galaxy website for info about what shows are in HD
http://www.hdtvgalaxy.com/broad.html
-Eric

or http://www.titantv.com/TTV/Home/HDTVUpdate.aspx

stephenju:

What brand set do you have?

stephenju:

What brand set do you have?

Originally posted by Bapon
stephenju:

What brand set do you have?

Do you mean the TV set? It's a Panasonic TH-42PD25U plasma. The CableCard is Motorola.

Originally posted by caernavon
I have a question about TNT-HD -- what sort of programming does it run? Is it a simulcast like ABC/CBS/etc., or do they show specials all day like DHD and PBS (aka, "Yeah, yeah, I've seen it before; where's Mythbusters/New Yankee Workshop in HD?").

TNT is a simulcast. From what I've read, there's a whole lot of upconverts and even *stretched* SD on the schedule. This is why I'd rather see Universal first - UHD is an all-HD "showcase" channel. But TNT will have the NBA and NASCAR in HD, so it will probably be more popular.

Couple comments/observations:

1. Does anyone know why the Braves/Phillies game on INHD (881) was pre-empted with bodybuilding and other crap? I know it was being shown on TBS but I don't know why it was being "blacked out" on INHD?

2. Here in Medford, I haven't noticed any ADS channels yet. I know some posters have mentioned that a handful of channels in their towns have been moved over, so I'm hopeful Medford is next. Any idea when Medford may get its first taste of ADS?

Just a reminder to my Bristol County brethren out there!!!!! Lets keep pounding UPN38 and Comcast with emails and phone calls over our missing H-D!!!!

Don't let up!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by tennberg
Couple comments/observations:

1. Does anyone know why the Braves/Phillies game on INHD (881) was pre-empted with bodybuilding and other crap? I know it was being shown on TBS but I don't know why it was being "blacked out" on INHD?


Happened this way last year as well if I recall - If there is a redsox game in HD during one of those broadcasts, INHD shows something else instead. Must be part of the deal that comcast made with the Sox re: high-def...

Originally posted by pcardoza
Just a reminder to my Bristol County brethren out there!!!!! Lets keep pounding UPN38 and Comcast with emails and phone calls over our missing H-D!!!!

Don't let up!!!!!!!!! Keep in mind that UPNHD or no UPNHD, the Red Sox on UPN38 will always be blacked out in Bristol County. If the only reason you want it is to see Star Trek, that's another story.

I have questions about sound in Comcast broadcasting. If info window shows Dolby logo and 5.1 my reciever switches to Dolby Digital which is just fine. If there logo but no numbers reciever switches to Pro Logic. Does it mean it is just stereo in this case and reciever tries to emulate surround sound? Another interesting observation, those logos visible only on one tuner (I am using Motorola 6412 STB) but not when I swap to another tuner even if it tuned to the same chanel. Somebody mentioned in this thread about no Dolby logo no digital signal. Is it possible?
Alexander

no dolby digital icon = no digital is not true

Lowell had UPN & other chnls upgraded to digital & it doesn't have the icon, but when I went into the box diagnostics, it said UPN was at 256 QAM

alex it's kinda confusing but we're taking 2 separate things there. one is a software bug which tvguide needs to fix, again. that is, audio type is not displayed on one of the tuners. interestingly, if you unplug your box and back in, once the data is restored the bug dissappears and you can see audio type on the flip bar of both tuners. eventually the bug returns and u lose it on 1 of the 2.
what i referred to in an earlier post is different and that is, on either tuner which is displaying audio output if you are tuned to an analog channel you will not see [][] or 5.1, THAT is true, i've proven it time an again. L Supreme may want to check and make sure he's not looking at the tuner with the bug. otherwise something even stranger is up.

Originally posted by rookiewill
Happened this way last year as well if I recall - If there is a redsox game in HD during one of those broadcasts, INHD shows something else instead. Must be part of the deal that comcast made with the Sox re: high-def...

One thing about the INHD Baseball telecasts is that there are no commercials (except for INHD promos).

Question about HD DVR.
I have HD and digital basic. My understanding is that I only pay around $7 incremental for the HD DVR. Is there an installation/upgrade one time fee?
Secondly and most importantly, can I record one channel while watching another? If so, any analog vs digital restrictions or exceptions?
Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by L Supreme
no dolby digital icon = no digital is not true

Lowell had UPN & other chnls upgraded to digital & it doesn't have the icon, but when I went into the box diagnostics, it said UPN was at 256 QAM

Same case here in burlington. I do not see the dolby sign for the digital singals but the diagnostics do show that the channel is indeed digital.

Digital broadcasts always broadcast Dolby Digital. That is the standard. Dolby Digital doesn't always mean 5.1. It can mean 2.0, too.

Originally posted by Benji
Keep in mind that UPNHD or no UPNHD, the Red Sox on UPN38 will always be blacked out in Bristol County. If the only reason you want it is to see Star Trek, that's another story.

Why????? UPN38 SD gives me the Sox every Friday!!!! What's the difference????

Sounds like on the new ADS channels the FLIP BAR fails to indicate any Dolby designation. jdoe: if this is the case with all of your other digital channels, then you're dealing with the known iGuide bug. Swap tuners and all your digitals (except ADS?) should show it. If none still do, you'd need to reset your box (unplug-replug) to restore the feature. Nuissance but I don't think this is at the top of the fix-it list since many of us rely more on receivers that show exactly what's coming in. More of a pain being the command lag issue which we hope they fix at some point before TiVo gets here. ;)

Originally posted by philw1776
Question about HD DVR.
I have HD and digital basic. My understanding is that I only pay around $7 incremental for the HD DVR. Is there an installation/upgrade one time fee?
Secondly and most importantly, can I record one channel while watching another? If so, any analog vs digital restrictions or exceptions?
Thanks in advance.

Usually complimentary. If you are able to hook up the box yourself,it would be good to swap boxes at your nearest office.

There are two tuners and you can record one channel while watching another. You can recoprd two channels simulationsly and WHILE watching a recording as well.
On demand programming cannot be recorded,though PPV programming CAN.
Restrictions are non exsistant.

Originally posted by pcardoza
Why????? UPN38 SD gives me the Sox every Friday!!!! What's the difference???? If you are receiving the Friday night games on UPN38 from your cable system, that is an oversite on Comcasts' behalf. UPN38 has exclusive rights to Friday night Sox games within the Boston DMA. NESN has exclusive rights to Friday night Sox games outside the Boston DMA.

In Easton, Sox games are on UPN38 and on NESN we get the "black out "program. Has been this way for past 2 seasons. in Easton, we do get UPN28, WLWC and dont get WNDS -TV50 from DerryNH

ADS is not showing the digital audio designation on the flip bar on my 6200. All other digital channels show the dolby designation, so maybe ads channels won't show the designation ?

-Ken

Originally posted by avic
Sounds like on the new ADS channels the FLIP BAR fails to indicate any Dolby designation. jdoe: if this is the case with all of your other digital channels, then you're dealing with the known iGuide bug. Swap tuners and all your digitals (except ADS?) should show it. If none still do, you'd need to reset your box (unplug-replug) to restore the feature. Nuissance but I don't think this is at the top of the fix-it list since many of us rely more on receivers that show exactly what's coming in. More of a pain being the command lag issue which we hope they fix at some point before TiVo gets here. ;)

Avic, I failed to mention that only the ADS channels do not show the dolby sign. The regular digital channels have always shown the dolby symbol.
I do not think it is a deal breaker. Not having TNT-HD is a big deal :)

I wasn't getting the Dolby designation on any of the ADS channels (on either tuner) either so I rebooted my 6412 and it fixed the problem. And just an FYI here are the current ADS channels in Lowell:

3=CN 8
12=WLVI
14=WSBK
15=WPBX
16=WGBX
17=WUNI
18=WNDS
20=WMFP
21=WUTF
23=WYDN
24=DISNEY
44=C-SPAN
45=C-SPAN 2
70=HSN
71=QVC

Originally posted by discjoker
I wasn't getting the Dolby designation on any of the ADS channels (on either tuner) either so I rebooted my 6412 and it fixed the problem. And just an FYI here are the current ADS channels in Lowell:

3=CN 8
12=WLVI
14=WSBK
15=WPBX
16=WGBX
17=WUNI
18=WNDS
20=WMFP
21=WUTF
23=WYDN
24=DISNEY
44=C-SPAN
45=C-SPAN 2
70=HSN
71=QVC

Those are the same ones in Lawrence as well. Since I do not subscribe to extended basic,I get th eproper Not Authorized on chs 24,44,and 45.
One interesting thing I noted was that channes 70 and 71 aed Encoded despite being included with Basic service.

Any word on TNTHD out there?

How do we know if we have any ADS channel? I am in bridgewater.

Originally posted by macd23
How do we know if we have any ADS channel? I am in bridgewater.

got to one of these chnls

3=CN 8
12=WLVI
14=WSBK
15=WPBX
16=WGBX
17=WUNI
18=WNDS
20=WMFP
21=WUTF
23=WYDN
24=DISNEY
44=C-SPAN
45=C-SPAN 2
70=HSN
71=QVC

turn off the box & press select. then go to inband status & see what mode its in. Digital will say 256 QAM

http://www.hoovers.com/free/news/detail.xhtml?ArticleID=NR200504113020.33_1d740015d53e10a2

Originally posted by chitchatjf
http://www.hoovers.com/free/news/detail.xhtml?ArticleID=NR200504113020.33_1d740015d53e10a2

that is horrible news - zero benefit to end users

Originally posted by avic
Sounds like on the new ADS channels the FLIP BAR fails to indicate any Dolby designation. jdoe: if this is the case with all of your other digital channels, then you're dealing with the known iGuide bug. Swap tuners and all your digitals (except ADS?) should show it. If none still do, you'd need to reset your box (unplug-replug) to restore the feature. Nuissance but I don't think this is at the top of the fix-it list since many of us rely more on receivers that show exactly what's coming in. More of a pain being the command lag issue which we hope they fix at some point before TiVo gets here. ;)

Hopefully you fix the command lag long before Tivo is here. I suspect porting from linux to a RT OS and a change in hardware with take a while.

that is horrible news - zero benefit to end users--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I use a Harmony remote and the first thing it does after turning all the components on is to switch to channel 802 (bottom end of the HD channels) so I don't think this change will affect me that much.

-Ken

Also it looks like the force tune is activated when the box is turned on. I am pretty sure most people leave their STB box on all the time.

Yeah, that's ok.

If they do anything that interferes with the working of my TiVos or ReplayTV, I'll just cancel all my premium channels.

But, I'm assuming that leaving the STB turned on is the accepted workaround.

Originally posted by dozens
Hopefully you fix the command lag long before Tivo is here. you mean they, i don't work for tvguide.

Someone asked a question earlier that I don't believe was ever answered.
How much more this the DVR if you already have the 6200 with HD ? Is it 7 or 10 more ?

Thanks,

Ken

Originally posted by kenvt
Someone asked a question earlier that I don't believe was ever answered.
How much more this the DVR if you already have the 6200 with HD ? Is it 7 or 10 more ?

Thanks,

Ken

It's $7 more (for a total of $15 for DVR and DVR service).:)

Are you sure that $15 includes HD? It seems the DVR service is $15 and the HD service is $8.25. Thats a total of $23.25.

The $15 includes HD and DVR. I'm looking right at it on my bill.

Only the locals for $15.

You need to purchase Digital Classic to get INHD/ESPN/DISC-HD, another $6 or so.

Just wanted to let people know that Voom is looking at selling some of their exclusive 21 HD channels to satellite and cable providers. If you're interested in them, write to Comcast and let them know that you would like to see them added to your channel lineup. They are: WorldSport HD, RUSH HD, Rave, Monsters HD, Equator, Gallery HD, HD Cinnema 10 and Annimania. I'm forgetting a few but these are the main ones.

Originally posted by SonyHD
Just wanted to let people know that Voom is looking at selling some of their exclusive 21 HD channels to satellite and cable providers. If you're interested in them, write to Comcast and let them know that you would like to see them added to your channel lineup. They are: WorldSport HD, RUSH HD, Rave, Monsters HD, Equator, Gallery HD, HD Cinnema 10 and Annimania. I'm forgetting a few but these are the main ones.

Is there any bandwith available for more HD channels?

Hi folks -

Quick question as I finally bit the bullet and bought a 45" Aquos which should be in later this week. I know it's slightly offtopic for the Boston programming forum but hoping someone here has the same situation with roughly the same equipment.

I'm going to be running a cable card as my main tuner and am hoping I'll be able to firewire archive HD content to my 4K DVHS recorder fairly easily. I'm also planning on keeping my old Pioneer 810H Tivo for SD recording; I find burning DVDs for travel/archival on it to be really helpful.

The question I have is that I'm still using the old General Instrument SD box for the Tivo. Is the PQ increase with the Motorola 6100 box worth it to upgrade it for SD purposes? At only $2 a month more, who cares...it's more a matter of not being able to use my serial connection from Tivo to box, and I've missed a few programs with my old IR blaster. Wasn't planning on going with the DVR unless I can't archive to DVHS.

Any thoughts?

Incidentally, I'm in Boston proper. Thanks.

Originally posted by Benji
Keep in mind that UPNHD or no UPNHD, the Red Sox on UPN38 will always be blacked out in Bristol County. If the only reason you want it is to see Star Trek, that's another story.
Why will it be blacked out here. I was wondering that last friday night.
Looks like I'll hhave to hook up the antenna to my new TV

Originally posted by old64mb
Hi folks -

The question I have is that I'm still using the old General Instrument SD box for the Tivo. Is the PQ increase with the Motorola 6100 box worth it to upgrade it for SD purposes? At only $2 a month more, who cares...it's more a matter of not being able to use my serial connection from Tivo to box, and I've missed a few programs with my old IR blaster. Wasn't planning on going with the DVR unless I can't archive to DVHS.

Any thoughts?

Incidentally, I'm in Boston proper. Thanks. You'll be able to archive to DVHS, but the SD quality will probably be worse than with your old box. Personally I don't care because I don't watch much SD anyways, but if SD is a big deal to you, you might just want to split the signal straight to your VCR, etc.

No matter, analog's days are numbered.

Just get the 6412, the only thing lacking is the TIVO functionality and we'll have that soon enough.

Originally posted by robla64
Why will it be blacked out here. I was wondering that last friday night.
Looks like I'll hhave to hook up the antenna to my new TV Contractual obligations.

Originally posted by Andrzej
Is there any bandwith available for more HD channels? No, ADS taking any/all left.

Originally posted by avic
No, ADS taking any/all left.

avic , any news on TNT-HD. Do not dissapoint us :)

Someone wanna tell me what the fark was going on at Comcast this morning?

I woke up around 4:30 AM (itself, another problem), and all my digital channels were intermittent/gone. Analogs looked fine (great even), and I verified with the service menu that they were indeed still analog, but the Digital channels would play for a few seconds, freeze for a minute or two, come back for a few seconds more, etc.

And none of this stuttering/partial picture/weak signal/interference sort of freeze. Total data dropout. Signal strength (as measured at two cable boxes and one clear QAM receiver) were unchanged. Cable modem still worked.

Called the 800 number, and got a recording that they were experiencing a "greater than usual call volume/please call back later."

It cleared up sometime around 7:30.

I seems pretty much all the comcast locations are just out of bandwidth at this point. Over in the progamming forum, I haven't seen one area that is getting TNT HD by Sunday.

Chris

What is ADS?

Analog-Digital Simulcast

(see, avic, I can learn!)

A little bandwidth will be freed up when HBO is removed from analog, hopefully that will be used for HD. I wonder if a longer term solution is to move all of extended basic to digital only. And why the heck was Hallmark added to analog...i guess it must have been contractual.

-Ken

Originally posted by kenvt
A little bandwidth will be freed up when HBO is removed from analog, hopefully that will be used for HD. I wonder if a longer term solution is to move all of extended basic to digital only. And why the heck was Hallmark added to analog...i guess it must have been contractual.

-Ken I read an article recently (try to dig it up) where someone from Comcast was responding to Verizon's FIOS, saying essentially that they have just as much potential bandwidth available to them as Verizon does.

In any event, Comcast is already making strides to compete with Verizon, so they're really ramping things up.

I cannot resist...

As Bill Parcells says, "potential just means you haven't done anything yet."

Here in Nashua the Verizon trucks are all over the south end of town installing fibre optic cable for Verizon's FIOS (fibre to the home) product. I've read estimates for a summer roll-out of Internet and phone; no specifics on television, although I did read that Verizon had signed an agreement with Starz. It will certainly be interesting to see what the competition between Comcast and Verizon will produce in terms of pricing and product offerings.

Tony

Aren't RCN's prices pretty close to Comcast these days ? Verizon will probably start out cheaper but in the end will end up being the same ? Verizon with a smaller footprint will probably not be able to get as good deals on programming cost.

-Ken

Are any of those Voom movie channels OAR-friendly? If so, bring 'em on! If not, get HDNET movies instead. ;)

I was telling a co-worker today that it is possible to get basic cable and digital classic and he didn't believe me. So we went the website and it clearly states new customers must get "standard cable". Is that just a website thing ? Whjat does he need to ask for when he calls Comcast ?

dozens,

I just did it last week. You have to call Comcast. The CSR was more than happy to do that actually.

Originally posted by JDLIVE
Are any of those Voom movie channels OAR-friendly? If so, bring 'em on! If not, get HDNET movies instead. ;)

Yes, they are. :)

You know, a gigahertz just ain't what it used to be.

A few analogs, a crapperload of SD 256QAM, a few VoD floaters and a handfull of HD channels, throw in some space for internet service, and pretty soon, you've got 500 channels of nothing worth watching.

We want more stuff to not watch!

Originally posted by stephenju
dozens,

I just did it last week. You have to call Comcast. The CSR was more than happy to do that actually.

Would you mind sharing your exact lineup?

I'm a bit confused with what "extended basic" is. Basically is extended basic 23-70, meaning I would lose mtv, vh1, fox news, etc.. ?

Originally posted by Bobdinski
Would you mind sharing your exact lineup?

I'm a bit confused with what "extended basic" is. Basically is extended basic 23-70, meaning I would lose mtv, vh1, fox news, etc.. ?

You are right about not having channels 23-70. Those are not included in the Basic package we are talking about here.

One other thing: Before installing CableCard, I have ADS channels in subs in 75-77 range. Now I am not sure if they are remapped to the analog numbers. The reason why I am suspecting is the PIP function in my TV works with 1 digital and 1 analog channel. It doesn't do PIP with 2 digital channels. Now I can flip through channels 2-21 in the PIP box while the main is digital channel. That means channels 2-21 are still analog.

Originally posted by dozens
I was telling a co-worker today that it is possible to get basic cable and digital classic and he didn't believe me. So we went the website and it clearly states new customers must get "standard cable". Is that just a website thing ? Whjat does he need to ask for when he calls Comcast ?

That is definatly a website thing. The tier buy through law prohibits cable from REQUIRING one get Extended basic in order to get premium or PPV programming.
Since all of that is digital,Comcast has wisely chosen to apply it to the digital packages.

Originally posted by Bobdinski
Would you mind sharing your exact lineup?

I'm a bit confused with what "extended basic" is. Basically is extended basic 23-70, meaning I would lose mtv, vh1, fox news, etc.. ?

It is actually channelks 24-69 although i have found that ch 69 seems to bleed in through the filter.

Yes you do lose MTV VH1 and fox news,but you save $30-40 which I tend to use to get the movie channels. :)

God, it will take something short of a small miracle to convince the other half of the household that we don't need E! :p

Analog really looks horrible on my HD set through the motorola HD box. I'm not to happy with comcast lately due to my poor SD quality (signal strength can't even do on-demand anymore), and the fact that they changed everyones hostname to <state_abbrev>.comcast.net on the cable modem. I couldn't browse a webpage for like a month, until my buddy told me to manually enter the DNS info into my network settings. Looks like the hostname changes aren't working properly with the DNS servers or something.

Originally posted by Bobdinski
God, it will take something short of a small miracle to convince the other half of the household that we don't need E! :p

Analog really looks horrible on my HD set through the motorola HD box. I'm not to happy with comcast lately due to my poor SD quality (signal strength can't even do on-demand anymore)

ADS will take care of the PQ on analog chnls, but for the low signal. setup an appointment to get a tech out to look at it & see if he can improve it for you.

I have 2 quick question when the Celtics and RedSox are in HD does Comcast show both or only one that they prefer on INHD.

Also how do you get Dobly Digital to work I had it work once about a week ago but didn't know what I did to get it to work.
Thanks

don't tell me that the meaningless celtics game is preempting the red sox on inhd2 tonight??? the nesn schedule on boston.com says tonights game is HD, but inhd2 guide says celtics-nj....damnit thats weak.


i called comcast to confirm and they said the red sox game tonight was a road game so no HD...:rolleyes:

aside from the ridiculous preemption tonight, i hope we are going to actually get the 40 road games that NESN is touting....

edit: I may have spoken too soon....the red sox game just came on in HD! someone is doing something right! i hope i don't jinx it and it switches in a few minutes to the garbage time celtics game

Couple observations:

1. I know April is almost over and there are many posters on here who have started getting digital simulcast channels already. However, here in Medford, not a single analog channel yet that I Know of is being digitally simulcast (I've done a thorough search). From what I remember, Medford was nearly the last town to get the 256QAM upgrade, so I am assuming the same holds true for ADS.

2. I noticed that HBO on both 72 and 301 were coming up with Dolby Digital 5.1 and my pre-amp was decoding it as 5.1. I was under the impression that only HD channels could carry 5.1 audio. I guess I'm wrong on that.

Originally posted by macd23
edit: I may have spoken too soon....the red sox game just came on in HD! someone is doing something right! i hope i don't jinx it and it switches in a few minutes to the garbage time celtics game

it was originally scheduled for the Celtics to get InHD2, but due to this being a meaningless game, the Sox get it.

Originally posted by L Supreme
it was originally scheduled for the Celtics to get InHD2, but due to this being a meaningless game, the Sox get it.

I'd like to buy a cold beer for the 6 figure executive who finally made a good decision.

avic, was it you?? :D

Originally posted by tennberg
Couple observations:

2. I noticed that HBO on both 72 and 301 were coming up with Dolby Digital 5.1 and my pre-amp was decoding it as 5.1. I was under the impression that only HD channels could carry 5.1 audio. I guess I'm wrong on that.

I believe (and I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong), but that your 72 HBO maps to the 301, so you actually don't get the analog HBO. Also, any digital channel can have 5.1. I used to get 5.1 back with a homemade addition to my dish network box 5 years ago

Originally posted by Bobdinski
God, it will take something short of a small miracle to convince the other half of the household that we don't need E! :p

Analog really looks horrible on my HD set through the motorola HD box. I'm not to happy with comcast lately due to my poor SD quality (signal strength can't even do on-demand anymore), and the fact that they changed everyones hostname to <state_abbrev>.comcast.net on the cable modem. I couldn't browse a webpage for like a month, until my buddy told me to manually enter the DNS info into my network settings. Looks like the hostname changes aren't working properly with the DNS servers or something.

I like E!

I Like HBO HD BETTER!

Originally posted by roachxp
I have 2 quick question when the Celtics and RedSox are in HD does Comcast show both or only one that they prefer on INHD.As far as I can tell, two different scenarios can put the Red Sox on the air in HD.
1. INHD airs it as part of its MLB coverage, in which case the game is on channel 881 (INHD).
2. NESN HD airs a Red Sox game, and Comcast Boston assigns the NESN HD feed to channel 882, which temporarily bumps out INHD2. (Comcast occasionally does this for other NESN HD programs.)

Originally posted by stevehof
As far as I can tell, two different scenarios can put the Red Sox on the air in HD.
1. INHD airs it as part of its MLB coverage, in which case the game is on channel 881 (INHD).
2. NESN HD airs a Red Sox game, and Comcast Boston assigns the NESN HD feed to channel 882, which temporarily bumps out INHD2. (Comcast occasionally does this for other NESN HD programs.)

Is a #3 possible in that ESPN-HD may air it as a Sunday Night Baseball game or whatever they call it these days? Or does NESN have a stranglehold on any Sox game in HD?

Originally posted by tennberg
Is a #3 possible in that ESPN-HD may air it as a Sunday Night Baseball game or whatever they call it these days? Or does NESN have a stranglehold on any Sox game in HD?

ESPN sunday night games (except for opening night on ESPN2) are ESPN EXCLUSIVE!
No blackout. No coverage elsewhere. You want to see the game You tune to 849!

You won't see an INHD Sox game on 881 because it will be blackedout to protect NESN's commercials.
The game will most likely be playing on 882 anyway.

before i call..anyone elses's box locking up at exactly 4:20am every morning with only solution to reboot? yeah didn't think so. it's been about a year, guess it's time for a new one.

Word on the master TNT-HD on Comcast thread is that the contract is a done deal and that they will start adding it immediately to systems with enough bandwidth. Is Boston one of those systems?

I have only Basic + Digital Classic. Will I get the new HD channels like TNT and Universal?

seems i'm not alone with the 4:20 lock-up. hmmm...

dale: NO. but somehow corp manages to get the engineers do magik, but at some point that just doesn't cut it. stay tuned.

steph: if you get TNT now you'll get TNT-HD, same as the premiums.

Hmm... I don't have TNT now since it's in the Standard/Extended Basic. Oh well...

Users in the TNT-HD programming thread have said the station is live. Anyone see it in this area?

avic (or others who may be able to answer):

With the ongoing ADS implementation and Comcast dropping HBO on 72, exactly how much bandwidth will be freed up? I know there was talk of TNT-HD being added. Will this single channel take up any remaining bandwidth?

Once bandwidth runs out (after Comcast has implemented ADS and dropped any duplicate channels), what can they do do add more bandwidth? I'm concerned now that we won't be getting Universal HD for some time, though I was hoping we'd get a channel like this (with better HD content) over something like TNT-HD, which will basically be showing NBA and maybe the occasional ER episode.

Originally posted by stephenju
I have only Basic + Digital Classic. Will I get the new HD channels like TNT and Universal?

If they offer it as part of digital classic,yes.

Originally posted by avic
seems i'm not alone with the 4:20 lock-up. hmmm...

dale: NO. but somehow corp manages to get the engineers do magik, but at some point that just doesn't cut it. stay tuned.

steph: if you get TNT now you'll get TNT-HD, same as the premiums.

That is not necessarily the case.

I do not get ESPN,but i DO GET ESPN-HD! :)

and the kick-ass comcast engineers pull it off again: TNT-HD hits your box Tuesday, just in time for the playoffs! ;)

That is great news!

Originally posted by avic
and the kick-ass comcast engineers pull it off again: TNT-HD hits your box Tuesday, just in time for the playoffs! ;)

Channel 833,I assume?

Originally posted by avic
and the kick-ass comcast engineers pull it off again: TNT-HD hits your box Tuesday, just in time for the playoffs! ;)

avic, you have done it again. Thanks for the update. UniversalHD next . :)

Originally posted by avic
and the kick-ass comcast engineers pull it off again: TNT-HD hits your box Tuesday, just in time for the playoffs! ;)

great news! u da man avic

Sorry to rain on the good news that Comcast is adding another HD channel but I just watched the HD version of Shark Tale and was very disappointed in the quality. I could not go 5 minutes without seeing macro blocking. I watched the entire movie with the 6412 set to output 720p and then watch parts with the stb outputting 1080i just to make sure the macro blocking wasn't the fault of the moto de-interlacer. Watching the 1080i was slightly better.

This was the first HD PPV I have had since Passion of the Christ ,so I obviously don't watch many but it was getting late I wanted save time and not run down to Blockbuster so I gave PPV a try. Have others had good experience with HD PPV ?

Originally posted by dozens
Sorry to rain on the good news that Comcast is adding another HD channel but I just watched the HD version of Shark Tale and was very disappointed in the quality. I could not go 5 minutes without seeing macro blocking. I watched the entire movie with the 6412 set to output 720p and then watch parts with the stb outputting 1080i just to make sure the macro blocking wasn't the fault of the moto de-interlacer. Watching the 1080i was slightly better.

This was the first HD PPV I have had since Passion of the Christ ,so I obviously don't watch many but it was getting late I wanted save time and not run down to Blockbuster so I gave PPV a try. Have others had good experience with HD PPV ?

No problems here. I've watched several PPV HD movies. Do you see any such blocking on the regular HD channels????

BRING UPN38-HD TO BRISTOL COUNTY!!!!

Originally posted by tennberg
avic (or others who may be able to answer):

With the ongoing ADS implementation and Comcast dropping HBO on 72, exactly how much bandwidth will be freed up? I know there was talk of TNT-HD being added. Will this single channel take up any remaining bandwidth?

Once bandwidth runs out (after Comcast has implemented ADS and dropped any duplicate channels), what can they do do add more bandwidth? I'm concerned now that we won't be getting Universal HD for some time, though I was hoping we'd get a channel like this (with better HD content) over something like TNT-HD, which will basically be showing NBA and maybe the occasional ER episode.

Each ananlog channel takes up 6mhz.

Each QAM HD channel takes up 3 mhz.

Each QAM SD channel only takes up 1 mhz (although other systems tend to squeeze even further doing 500 khz or even 250 khz) - I think not sure on this

Digital channels are not measured in mhz. A QAM, whether it has 1 SD, 1 HD, 12 SD or whatever on it always takes up 6mhz. So you don't measure it in mhz. You measure in bitrate.

256 QAM is 38.8 mbps.
HD averages 13mbps to 19mbps depending on source.
SD averages 3mbps to 8mbps depending on source.
You can have a mix of HD and SD in the same channel space as long as you don't exceed the 38.8mbps.

There is a finite amount of bandwidth available on a system... generally 750mhz with some going out to 860mhz (I've never heard of anyone going 1ghz). To open up more bandwidth, if there is none left open, it requires something to be dropped. In the case of most cable companies, they will drop analog channels to make room for more digital channels. So if Comcast is running out of open bandwidth, we'll likely start seeing more analog channels going away and migrating to digital.

Or, apparently, 9mbps if you're talking about WFXT. At least that was the bitrate for last week's "HD" broadcast of 24.

Originally posted by pcardoza
No problems here. I've watched several PPV HD movies. Do you see any such blocking on the regular HD channels????

BRING UPN38-HD TO BRISTOL COUNTY!!!!

Never had problem watching the HD channels.

No sox on INHD tonight, bummer they put the Celts on instead but they are also on ESPNHD. We could have had both Sox and Celts in HD tonight if they picked up the NESN feed instead, but maybe HD is not possible out of TB so it would not have made a difference. I'm guessing.

Originally posted by Lodef
No sox on INHD tonight, bummer they put the Celts on instead but they are also on ESPNHD. We could have had both Sox and Celts in HD tonight if they picked up the NESN feed instead, but maybe HD is not possible out of TB so it would not have made a difference. I'm guessing.

None of the games in this series are - A limitation of the facility - Looking at http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/redsox/ I see that the September series in Tampa is in HD - perhaps a work in progress? If I recall, Fenway had to be completely re-wired for HD - probably Tropicana has to do the same. We've got at least 80% of the games in HD.

Originally posted by Kaiser-Soze
None of the games in this series are - A limitation of the facility - Looking at http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/redsox/ I see that the September series in Tampa is in HD - perhaps a work in progress? If I recall, Fenway had to be completely re-wired for HD - probably Tropicana has to do the same. We've got at least 80% of the games in HD.

Wrong because FSN Florida does some games in HD along with Marlins games also. Also the Toronto series had no HD on NESN but when the Yankees show up it was in HD on INHD and it wasn't the YES feed. So it might maybe have some thing to do with exclusive HD rights.

Originally posted by Lodef
No sox on INHD tonight, bummer they put the Celts on instead but they are also on ESPNHD. We could have had both Sox and Celts in HD tonight if they picked up the NESN feed instead, but maybe HD is not possible out of TB so it would not have made a difference. I'm guessing.

I thought they would black out ESPNHD in order to protect FSN.

If game 2 is on TNT Monday why do we have to wait until tuesday for 833?

because that would mean those poor, hard-working engineers would have to come in on a sunday to set it up. ;)

Originally posted by avic
because that would mean those poor, hard-working engineers would have to come in on a sunday to set it up. ;)

OTOH I assume FSN would have it on 882 anyway. :)

There's an ad in today's Globe advertising the Sox game in HD, but only on Adelphia...WTF???

Originally posted by BSTNFAN
There's an ad in today's Globe advertising the Sox game in HD, but only on Adelphia...WTF???


that's just adelphia's way of misleading the unwashed masses into thinking they are the only ones who offer red sox in HD........anyone know what adelphia's future plans in MA are? are they going to concede the last of their market to comcast and move out or will they stay put in the few communities they still service?

Originally posted by macd23
that's just adelphia's way of misleading the unwashed masses into thinking they are the only ones who offer red sox in HD........anyone know what adelphia's future plans in MA are? are they going to concede the last of their market to comcast and move out or will they stay put in the few communities they still service?

Theyre supposed to be selling out to Comcast and Time Warner which will probobly mean comcast for former Adelpha systems in this area.

Perhaps they could find a way to put HDNet here.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
OTOH I assume FSN would have it on 882 anyway. :)

but not if the Sox are there :(

Originally posted by macd23
that's just adelphia's way of misleading the unwashed masses into thinking they are the only ones who offer red sox in HD........anyone know what adelphia's future plans in MA are? are they going to concede the last of their market to comcast and move out or will they stay put in the few communities they still service?

If they had yesterday's game in HD, then they WERE the only ones as Comcast didn't have it. Why wasn't yesterday's game on 882 if it was available in HD?

Originally posted by BSTNFAN
If they had yesterday's game in HD, then they WERE the only ones as Comcast didn't have it. Why wasn't yesterday's game on 882 if it was available in HD?

do you know anyone who saw yesterday's game in HD?

the boston.com nesn schedule did NOT list it as HD:

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/redsox/

I called CBS/Viacom Boston. They said that WLWC-DT will be on the air this summer. They have the transmitter installed and the tower will be going up soon. Comcast WILL BE ABLE to carry WLWC-DT in Bristol County.

Originally posted by mgpt6
I called CBS/Viacom Boston. They said that WLWC-DT will be on the air this summer. They have the transmitter installed and the tower will be going up soon. Comcast WILL BE ABLE to carry WLWC-DT in Bristol County. Of course, they WILL NOT have any Red Sox games on.

Originally posted by macd23
do you know anyone who saw yesterday's game in HD?

the boston.com nesn schedule did NOT list it as HD:



I don't know anyone with Adelphia. My question/comments were based strictly on the ad from page E4 of yesterday's Globe:

"Today vs TB. Coverage begins at 1PM (NESN HD logo) only on Adelphia. Over 100 Red Sox games in high definition on Adelphia HD channel 773."

It certainly implies that yesterday's games was being shown in HD. If not, it seems like a wierd day to run the ad.

Originally posted by macd23
that's just adelphia's way of misleading the unwashed masses into thinking they are the only ones who offer red sox in HD........anyone know what adelphia's future plans in MA are? are they going to concede the last of their market to comcast and move out or will they stay put in the few communities they still service?

Why is it misleading? Do you mean Adelphia should mention in the ad ( which they paid for) ' You can also watch it on Comcast' .

Originally posted by jdoe7890
Why is it misleading? Do you mean Adelphia should mention in the ad ( which they paid for) ' You can also watch it on Comcast' . No, the ad is misleading because it specifically states that the Red Sox HD NESN broadcasts are available "exclusively" on Adelphia, which is blatantly untrue.

Of course, the ad is moot since Comcast will be taking over all the Adelphia subscribers in the Boston area anyway.

I'd like to just mention that last year prior to the World Series, I couldn't name a single player on the Red Sox team. Honestly - not one. That's how uninterested in baseball I've been.

Since we got UPN-HD, I've watched more Red Sox than I have in the last ten years combined. The picture is so sharp and clear that sometimes I'm tempted to write a letter to one of the pitchers telling him to trim his nosehairs or that he better get that mole checked out. :)

Nice job UPN!

Originally posted by BSTNFAN
I don't know anyone with Adelphia. My question/comments were based strictly on the ad from page E4 of yesterday's Globe:

"Today vs TB. Coverage begins at 1PM (NESN HD logo) only on Adelphia. Over 100 Red Sox games in high definition on Adelphia HD channel 773."

It certainly implies that yesterday's games was being shown in HD. If not, it seems like a wierd day to run the ad.

hmm...that is confusing....no idea.. i know one person with adelphia but I didn't ask him.............anyway, if you go by the nesn schedule i posted you will know when the comcast games are HD, and if you live in anywhere but bristol county you also get UPN HD for 99% of the friday night games.

I'm with Adelphia - for the time being, anyway! None of the games @ Tampa Bay were in HD for anyone. We have NESN-HD on a dedicated, full-time channel. Of course, they stretch SD content to fill the screen like ESPN used to do. :(

Guess I'll be checking this thread a lot more in the future if/when we become Comcast subs.

Originally posted by mgpt6
I called CBS/Viacom Boston. They said that WLWC-DT will be on the air this summer. They have the transmitter installed and the tower will be going up soon. Comcast WILL BE ABLE to carry WLWC-DT in Bristol County.

The transmitter is in East Freetown just off of 140. 7 or so miles from my house. It's almost as near to the fringe of the Boston MSA as I am.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
Theyre supposed to be selling out to Comcast and Time Warner which will probobly mean comcast for former Adelpha systems in this area.

Perhaps they could find a way to put HDNet here.

Will Comcast's acquisition (along with TWC) of Adelphia's assets allow Comcast to add more bandwidth to their systems?

I know how this acquisition will affect current Adelphia customers, but I'm unsure how (or if) it will affect current Comcast customers.

Both the Celts and Sox are playing tonight, will we be getting both games in HD or does one take precedent over the other on INHD ( 882) ?. I'm not up on the contractual thing.

Originally posted by Lodef
Both the Celts and Sox are playing tonight, will we be getting both games in HD or does one take precedent over the other on INHD ( 882) ?. I'm not up on the contractual thing.

looks like sox :(

No 833 yet.

Originally posted by tennberg
Will Comcast's acquisition (along with TWC) of Adelphia's assets allow Comcast to add more bandwidth to their systems? The acquisition gets Comcast more subscribers, not more bandwidth. In general, the bandwidth on any given system is independent of the bandwidth on other systems. Comcast will likely upgrade some of the Adelphia systems and services, but don't hold your breath waiting. When Comcast bought AT&T's cable systems, it took them about two years to upgrade the system in my town.

Originally posted by BSTNFAN
I don't know anyone with Adelphia. My question/comments were based strictly on the ad from page E4 of yesterday's Globe:

"Today vs TB. Coverage begins at 1PM (NESN HD logo) only on Adelphia. Over 100 Red Sox games in high definition on Adelphia HD channel 773."

It certainly implies that yesterday's games was being shown in HD. If not, it seems like a wierd day to run the ad.

Now, I'm even more confused. In today's Globe, the exact same style ad is on page B6, but for Comcast with no mention of Adelphia. It does not say "only on Comcast" however. As these ads are exactly the same style, could it be NESN placing the ad? If so, did yesterday's "only on" mean just yesterday's game (contrary to the comment from the Adelphia subscriber)? I find it hard to believe that the game would be available in HD on Adelphia, but not on Comcast 882; however, yesterday's ad sure implies that. It would make even more sense tonight because of the Celtics game, but there was no conflict yesterday.

Celtics are on 882 tonight, Which IMO is the right choice.

Originally posted by macd23
hmm...that is confusing....no idea.. i know one person with adelphia but I didn't ask him.............anyway, if you go by the nesn schedule i posted you will know when the comcast games are HD, and if you live in anywhere but bristol county you also get UPN HD for 99% of the friday night games.

The schedule that was posted here awhile back had a date in the URL and mistakenly had Fridays game listed at 3pm. (I had it bookmarked at work) a few minutes online netted this schedule.

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/redsox/

Only time will tell if its kept up to date with time changes, rainouts, etc....

any chance the sox might be on 881?
actually, I tune to 881, and I get a blank screen.
now NESN has some sort of weird phantom audio going on?
wtf?

What's up with the SD Sox game tonight? INHD was supposed to have been showing Sox-Os anyway, so why isn't the game on 881?

The main reason I have Comcast is because of NESN HD. Who the %$%&* wants to watch the Celtics. Oh there may be a few of you out there, but I bet there are more people watching th SOX.

Originally posted by gcarrier
The main reason I have Comcast is because of NESN HD. Who the %$%&* wants to watch the Celtics. Oh there may be a few of you out there, but I bet there are more people watching th SOX.

I love the Sox, but I will take Celts playoffs over early regular season Sox - plus I can always check the Sox on commercial break.

Originally posted by jaydee353
Celtics are on 882 tonight, Which IMO is the right choice.

Agreed.

Looks like TNT-HD only has the Celts game is SD. Lucky for us to have FSN.

I would prefer the SOX. What's up with no 881 INHD ? Why is that frozen ? 882 INHD2 has the Celts, and that's never affected 881.

ADS has started in Watertown with Ch 3.

A few others I checked were still analog. Someone posted the order in which channels convert awhile back, but I can't remember just how long ago. Anyone know a few channels I should be checking?

Originally posted by number9
I would prefer the SOX. What's up with no 881 INHD ? Why is that frozen ? 882 INHD2 has the Celts, and that's never affected 881.

It frozen, because the Redsox game is blackout on INHD 881.

Originally posted by BobColby
ADS has started in Watertown with Ch 3.

A few others I checked were still analog. Someone posted the order in which channels convert awhile back, but I can't remember just how long ago. Anyone know a few channels I should be checking?

In Lawrence,CN8,BRoadcast channels 56,38,68,44,27,50,62,66,48,Diusney,Cspan 1,and Cspan 2

Originally posted by roachxp
It frozen, because the Redsox game is blackout on INHD 881.

Dosen't make too much sense What I would have done is to put the NESN HD feed on 881. This way folks can at least see what's on INHD2 (which tonight has the Celtics) :)


FSN shows SD ads in proper 4:3 windowbox.

Thanks to Avic's advanced warning this is not news, but I thought I would post it anyway
:

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/cabletv/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000894157

Originally posted by chitchatjf
Dosen't make too much sense What I would have done is to put the NESN HD feed on 881. This way folks can at least see what's on INHD2 (which tonight has the Celtics) :)


FSN shows SD ads in proper 4:3 windowbox.

Blame Comcast for this one if they had given NESN their own HD channel this would not of happened.

INHD 881 was regular scheduled to show Redsox-O's but would be blackout anyway due to NESN having regional rights, also Comcast has a deal with INHD to used 882 to show Celt's home or Sox games in HD, Comcast choosed Celts, but if TNT-HD was live on the Comcast system we would have Redsoxs on 881 and Celt on 833:p

Anybody else having problems with the Celts game in INHD 2? Really crappy PQ here in Medford.:mad:

I am not at all impressed with the ADS picture quality. Maybe I was expecting too much. If we are missing out on additional HD channels due to ADS , then I would say eliminate ADS.

Originally posted by roachxp
Blame Comcast for this one if they had given NESN their own HD channel this would not of happened.

INHD 881 was regular scheduled to show Redsox-O's but would be blackout anyway due to NESN having regional rights, also Comcast has a deal with INHD to used 882 to show Celt's home or Sox games in HD, Comcast choosed Celts, but if TNT-HD was live on the Comcast system we would have Redsoxs on 881 and Celt on 833:p

The logical thing to do IMHO in case of a blackout would be to replace it with the local version of such programming.
The main reason INHD1 is blacked out ios to protect NESN ADS! Its the NESN play by play folks you would hear on INHD1 anyway. (at least on home games)

Originally posted by rcg5
Anybody else having problems with the Celts game in INHD 2? Really crappy PQ here in Medford.:mad:

when it was 5 seconds left I saw a yukky 4:3 SD picture for a few seconds then it flashed to the nice HD!

Unfortunatly it didn't mean a Field goal and we lose by 3. :(

The Sox looks like theyre gonna lose too :(

TNT-HD is up and running on channel 833!

Ugh... but it's stretched! I hope they fix that.

Originally posted by NeuroVic
Ugh... but it's stretched! I hope they fix that.

Not without massive complaining from HD viewers. They've been doing it that way from the start, and they think that's what their audience wants (when there isn't actual HD going on).

Stretch-o-vision hurts my brain.

Did anybody have trouble with the sound on 24 last night? Our sound came through stuttering (second time it has happened with 24). I am trying to figure out whether it was a system problem or a problem with our DVR.

Thanks.

Mark

Originally posted by Darth Omi
TNT-HD is up and running on channel 833!

and I get it too without extended basic.

Local Hds are considered part of Limited Basic.

Non premium Hds seem to be part of Digital Classic.

My predictions on channel placements all seem to have come true.

Discovery HD theatre on Ch 839,WLVIDT on 856,UPN 38DT on 838 and now TNTHD on 833.

Let's go one further and say Universal HD on 835 or 857.

Anyone shooting for HDNet on 883 with HDNet movies on 884?

I am having a new problem with my Moto 6412. When you first turn it on it displays the channel guide info but not the programming itself. Only by going to the DVR menu and starting, and then stopping a recorded show does the channel programing appear.

Anyone else experience this problem? What was the solution, if so?

Originally posted by chitchatjf
My predictions on channel placements all seem to have come true.

Discovery HD theatre on Ch 839,WLVIDT on 856,UPN 38DT on 838 and now TNTHD on 833.

Let's go one further and say Universal HD on 835 or 857.

Anyone shooting for HDNet on 883 with HDNet movies on 884?

"Shooting for?"

I'd love those two channels, but they don't seem to be on the horizon any time soon. Too bad, the top HD channels, with the most original programming, and Comcast won't add them. Maybe D* will force them next year some time.

Rich N.

Originally posted by capecodguy
I am having a new problem with my Moto 6412. When you first turn it on it displays the channel guide info but not the programming itself. Only by going to the DVR menu and starting, and then stopping a recorded show does the channel programing appear.

Anyone else experience this problem? What was the solution, if so?

Don't turn it off!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by capecodguy
I am having a new problem with my Moto 6412. When you first turn it on it displays the channel guide info but not the programming itself. Only by going to the DVR menu and starting, and then stopping a recorded show does the channel programing appear.

Anyone else experience this problem? What was the solution, if so?

Yep, I have the same problem. It appears to only happen on one tuner of the unit. I haven't been able to find a solution, I just play something from the DVR to restore the picture.

Originally posted by raidbuck
"Shooting for?"

I'd love those two channels, but they don't seem to be on the horizon any time soon. Too bad, the top HD channels, with the most original programming, and Comcast won't add them. Maybe D* will force them next year some time.

Rich N. Since Adelphia has HDNet & Movies, maybe once Comcast takes them over they'll inherit the contracts and be able to provide it across the board.

Originally posted by chitchatjf
My predictions on channel placements all seem to have come true.

Discovery HD theatre on Ch 839,WLVIDT on 856,UPN 38DT on 838 and now TNTHD on 833.

Let's go one further and say Universal HD on 835 or 857.

Anyone shooting for HDNet on 883 with HDNet movies on 884?

They can put them at 666 for all I care. As long as they are included in Digital Basic, that is. :)

Originally posted by raidbuck
"Shooting for?"

I'd love those two channels, but they don't seem to be on the horizon any time soon. Too bad, the top HD channels, with the most original programming, and Comcast won't add them. Maybe D* will force them next year some time.

Rich N.

The big thing is

a) Mr. cuban wants $1.20 per sub and

b) comcast dosent want a special HD tier

c) putting it on digital classic would require those without HD pay for it as well

capecodguy & discjoker:

This happens to my 6412 every time I record two shows at the same time. The solution is to unplug the DVR power cord and then power back on.

I think FSN is more than a buck a sub, lets drop FSN for HDNET !!! I can here the screaming now :-)

Originally posted by spiegelm
Did anybody have trouble with the sound on 24 last night?

I have not had any issues with this show all season on 825 in Boston.

Originally posted by spiegelm
Did anybody have trouble with the sound on 24 last night? Our sound came through stuttering (second time it has happened with 24). I am trying to figure out whether it was a system problem or a problem with our DVR.

Thanks.

Mark


I havent yet watched last nights, but 5-10 Audio blips per episode is not uncommon for me. No idea if its Fox - or Comcast...

Is the comcast dvr really this bad ? I was just about to cough up the $$ for one !

Comcast DVR belongs in the Dumpster (http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/powerpage.woa/wa/story?newsID=14507)

Is the comcast dvr really this bad ?
No. The only issue from that link I've encountered is the weird mute bug, which isn't as bad as the article suggests: annoying it is, but wait for the recording to end and it unmutes. As for the other problems:

Freezing: on the network level, sure, but not due to the box

Auto-shutoff: nope.

Missed recordings: nope.

Originally posted by caernavon
No. The only issue from that link I've encountered is the weird mute bug, which isn't as bad as the article suggests: annoying it is, but wait for the recording to end and it unmutes. As for the other problems:

Freezing: on the network level, sure, but not due to the box

Auto-shutoff: nope.

Missed recordings: nope.

Auto shut-off happens if there is a scheduled recording happning and you watch TV - when the recording stops it shuts off. This can beavoided if you leave the box on all the time which I wil do when I get an Harmony880 to program correctly. The Mute issus is related to this as well. My workaround was to reprogram the Lock button to be the 6412 Mute button vs the receivers Mute button.

Originally posted by Kaiser-Soze
Auto shut-off happens if there is a scheduled recording happning and you watch TV - when the recording stops it shuts off. This can beavoided if you leave the box on all the time which I wil do when I get an Harmony880 to program ocrrectly. Just curious - why do you have to wait until you get the Harmony remote before you start leaving the box on all the time?

Originally posted by scooterboy
Just curious - why do you have to wait until you get the Harmony remote before you start leaving the box on all the time?

Too lazy to do TV,Power,Aux3,Power :) I like the All-Power button. I'll program the 880 to ignore the cable box in powering on/off. trivial I know...

Originally posted by kenvt
I think FSN is more than a buck a sub, lets drop FSN for HDNET !!! I can here the screaming now :-)

FSN is part of EXTENDED Basic. It has an SD feed and during home
Celtic games an HD feed. since comcast chooses to include the HD feed as part of digital Classic (which I get as part of my Digital Platinum and Basic) that works for me. :)

Since Comcast would rather not have an HD only tier available,we may have to wait on that,or they could have a second SD downconverted feed for HDNet for SD viewers but watch them complain about letterboxing

Originally posted by kenvt
Is the comcast dvr really this bad ? I was just about to cough up the $$ for one !

Comcast DVR belongs in the Dumpster (http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/powerpage.woa/wa/story?newsID=14507)

It is not perfect,but it is really not THAT BAD!

New here, i just have a few questions

i live in Tyngsboro which is 30+ miles away from Boston.. i can get channel 4 in hd once in a while..but nothing else

i have directv hd with the off air antenna...

are there any ways i can get more local hd channels?

so hopefully the mighty comcast will drop TNT-HD after the playoffs and replace it with an actual HD channel that doesn't show stretched 4:3 content 24 hours a day. oh but it fills the whole screen, it must be HD! :rolleyes: complete waste of precious bandwidth imo. i'd replace it with universal in a sec. on the bright side: comcast is only a handful of channels away from HD Bliss, and at a sweet 16, now with Boom gone, they're ahead of the pack. do u love it?

Originally posted by hadley
New here, i just have a few questions

i live in Tyngsboro which is 30+ miles away from Boston.. i can get channel 4 in hd once in a while..but nothing else

i have directv hd with the off air antenna...

are there any ways i can get more local hd channels? YES! welcome. cancel your directv subscription and get Comcast digital cable with HD DVR. you'll get ALL the local channels. comcast will even pay you to get rid of that unsightly dish. more info on comcast.com

So this morning I turn on the TV and notice that a few channels are missing. No INHD1 and no ESPNHD. They're not in the guide as well.

I noticed other channels "missing" as well: 201, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 253. Anyone know what might be up?

Originally posted by avic
YES! welcome. cancel your directv subscription and get Comcast digital cable with HD DVR. you'll get ALL the local channels. comcast will even pay you to get rid of that unsightly dish. more info on comcast.com Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I think the dishes look sort of "cool".

Originally posted by hadley
New here, i just have a few questions

i live in Tyngsboro which is 30+ miles away from Boston.. i can get channel 4 in hd once in a while..but nothing else

i have directv hd with the off air antenna...

are there any ways i can get more local hd channels? If, by chance, you're committed to keeping DIRECTV, check out the Boston HD-OTA thread for advice on antennas.

Originally posted by avic
so hopefully the mighty comcast will drop TNT-HD after the playoffs and replace it with an actual HD channel that doesn't show stretched 4:3 content 24 hours a day. oh but it fills the whole screen, it must be HD! :rolleyes: complete waste of precious bandwidth imo. i'd replace it with universal in a sec. on the bright side: comcast is only a handful of channels away from HD Bliss, and at a sweet 16, now with Boom gone, they're ahead of the pack. do u love it?

The stretching dosen't look too bad on my set. OTOH I only have a Samsung TXN2668WHF. With HBO STILL on 72,My idea would be to pop off HSN and QVC and make them digital only (As ADS is online for those channels,AND the digital feed is encrypted,despite them being ia part of broadcast basic.)

Universal HD would be a good idea,though. The question is 835 or 857.

Originally posted by JimMcK
So this morning I turn on the TV and notice that a few channels are missing. No INHD1 and no ESPNHD. They're not in the guide as well.

I noticed other channels "missing" as well: 201, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 253. Anyone know what might be up?

Not in Lawrence. They're all here here.

Originally posted by avic
so hopefully the mighty comcast will drop TNT-HD after the playoffs and replace it with an actual HD channel that doesn't show stretched 4:3 content 24 hours a day. oh but it fills the whole screen, it must be HD! :rolleyes: complete waste of precious bandwidth imo. i'd replace it with universal in a sec. on the bright side: comcast is only a handful of channels away from HD Bliss, and at a sweet 16, now with Boom gone, they're ahead of the pack. do u love it?

Agree with avic. Drop TNT-HD after the playoffs and replace with Universal HD.

Originally posted by caernavon
No. The only issue from that link I've encountered is the weird mute bug, which isn't as bad as the article suggests: annoying it is, but wait for the recording to end and it unmutes. As for the other problems:

Freezing: on the network level, sure, but not due to the box

Auto-shutoff: nope.

Missed recordings: nope.
The DVR missed one recording when trying to record two shows at the same time. Has anyone else seen that problem?

Mickey

chitchatjf, I had my issues with the DVR but they all seemed to be worked out now and I love it. Well worth the extra few bucks a month...

Can anyone with the Basic + Digital Classic package confirm that they get TNT-HD? I wonder if Comcast will continue to include all non-premium HD channels w/ Digital Classic. I also wonder if someday they will revisit this policy if too many people sign up for this package?

I am seriously considering ditching my Expanded Basic and using the money to get Digital Platinum instead. They would give me all of the HD channels Comcast offers. Awesome. The only problem is I really like Comedy Central (Daily Show + South Park). I just need to figure out if I like it enough for $30/month.

Originally posted by Benji
If, by chance, you're committed to keeping DIRECTV, check out the Boston HD-OTA thread for advice on antennas.

i already have one.. winegard or something.. cant remember the exact name

are there better ones out there.. i was told by the representative that my distance from boston was the reason i couldnt get the local channels..

Originally posted by Dale Pickle
Can anyone with the Basic + Digital Classic package confirm that they get TNT-HD? I wonder if Comcast will continue to include all non-premium HD channels w/ Digital Classic. I also wonder if someday they will revisit this policy if too many people sign up for this package?

I am seriously considering ditching my Expanded Basic and using the money to get Digital Platinum instead. They would give me all of the HD channels Comcast offers. Awesome. The only problem is I really like Comedy Central (Daily Show + South Park). I just need to figure out if I like it enough for $30/month.

I have Basic + Digital Classic and get TNT-HD. Only $40 per month (inc. Sport Pack) is not bad.

Originally posted by spiegelm
Did anybody have trouble with the sound on 24 last night? Our sound came through stuttering (second time it has happened with 24). I am trying to figure out whether it was a system problem or a problem with our DVR.

Thanks.

Mark

Taped it to DVHS off my cable card and it came out fine...so may be the DVR.

Originally posted by caernavon
No. The only issue from that link I've encountered is the weird mute bug, which isn't as bad as the article suggests: annoying it is, but wait for the recording to end and it unmutes. As for the other problems:

Freezing: on the network level, sure, but not due to the box

Auto-shutoff: nope.

Missed recordings: nope.

I'm still getting issues where the iGuide will freeze when trying to interact with it. The current channel will still play with no freezing in audio or video. It's just that I won't be able to browse through the guide or do an Info on a show, etc.

I know someone said this can happen every 15 minutes while the box updates guide data, but this is occurring for me anywhere between 15-20 times an hour.

Time for a new 6412?

Originally posted by spiegelm
Did anybody have trouble with the sound on 24 last night? Our sound came through stuttering (second time it has happened with 24). I am trying to figure out whether it was a system problem or a problem with our DVR.

Thanks.

Mark

I just watched it and 8-12 audio drops. My SO watches American Idol in HD and no drops. I cant think of anything else we watch on Fox-HD. I do not see this problem on any other channel or show.

Originally posted by tennberg
I'm still getting issues where the iGuide will freeze when trying to interact with it. The current channel will still play with no freezing in audio or video. It's just that I won't be able to browse through the guide or do an Info on a show, etc.

I know someone said this can happen every 15 minutes while the box updates guide data, but this is occurring for me anywhere between 15-20 times an hour.

Time for a new 6412?

it is not a hardware problem, it is software. Try rebooting the box and it should behave badly less often.

Originally posted by Dale Pickle
Can anyone with the Basic + Digital Classic package confirm that they get TNT-HD? I wonder if Comcast will continue to include all non-premium HD channels w/ Digital Classic. I also wonder if someday they will revisit this policy if too many people sign up for this package?

I am seriously considering ditching my Expanded Basic and using the money to get Digital Platinum instead. They would give me all of the HD channels Comcast offers. Awesome. The only problem is I really like Comedy Central (Daily Show + South Park). I just need to figure out if I like it enough for $30/month.

(I got that (Basic and Digital platinum!)

Hadley: As previously mentioned you should checkout the Boston HD-OTA forum. It covers Over the Air issues such as antennas. There are antennas that should work from Tyngsboro. This forum is about Comcast HD. BTW, I am a previous Direct TV HD user and I got tired of over the air reception issues so I swithced back to Comcast. HD is now far better but I have to admit that SD (Standard Definition) is far worse. I can't wait for all digital all the time. If you want to know about Comcat cable HD this is the place otherwise I know the good folks at Boston HD-OTA will be more than glad to help.
Good Luck.

Looks like ADS has begun in Natick. I've seen WB (ch 12) and UPN (ch 14) so far. It could be my imagination, but the analog stations around those now look much worse (grainier, noisier) than before. Hopefully Fox (Ch 13) will be digital this Sunday for Family Guy and American Dad!

Originally posted by deathstroke
Looks like ADS has begun in Natick. I've seen WB (ch 12) and UPN (ch 14) so far. It could be my imagination, but the analog stations around those now look much worse (grainier, noisier) than before. Hopefully Fox (Ch 13) will be digital this Sunday for Family Guy and American Dad!

Fox won't get upgraded to ADS until the next round so it will still look grainy by then. If you have a hd box or DVR watch it on 825.

Originally posted by Ian Flux
I have Basic + Digital Classic and get TNT-HD. Only $40 per month (inc. Sport Pack) is not bad.

You must be a sports fan... My biggest problem is giving up ESPN2 - which during college hoops season has a bunch of good games on it... How do you handle that?

Originally posted by L Supreme
Fox won't get upgraded to ADS until the next round so it will still look grainy by then. If you have a hd box or DVR watch it on 825.

I have the DVR but a standard 4:3 TV, so 825 will show bars on top and bottom for 4:3 programming.

Originally posted by deathstroke
Looks like ADS has begun in Natick. I've seen WB (ch 12) and UPN (ch 14) so far. It could be my imagination, but the analog stations around those now look much worse (grainier, noisier) than before. Hopefully Fox (Ch 13) will be digital this Sunday for Family Guy and American Dad! i assume you're an HD customer, since you're posting in this forum. why would you even watch ANY of the networks on channels 2-99? with WB and UPN added recently they're all in the HD block and Fox has been there for a long time.

Originally posted by rookiewill
You must be a sports fan... My biggest problem is giving up ESPN2 - which during college hoops season has a bunch of good games on it... How do you handle that?

The sports pack has those three college sports stations. I'm a big Florida fan, and a bunch of those games are on the college stations.

Originally posted by deathstroke
I have the DVR but a standard 4:3 TV, so 825 will show bars on top and bottom for 4:3 programming.

Set the box to pan scan mode. You will lose none of the 4:3 image.

Originally posted by avic
i assume you're an HD customer, since you're posting in this forum. why would you even watch ANY of the networks on channels 2-99? with WB and UPN added recently they're all in the HD block and Fox has been there for a long time.
I'll give two answers to this one (though it wasn't asked directly of me):

1) Some locals aren't on my digital block. I'm in Nashua. WMUR is my preferred ABS affiliate for news, but it's not in the 800 block ... only WCVB. So I'll watch channel 9 sometimes.

2) If the show isn't in 16:9 format, I get way more options for watching it from the analog channels vs. digital. In other words, I can't choose to use my set's JUST mode to watch 4:3 format on a digital channel, and although many find it revolting, I prefer expanding the content to use the whole screen. In fact I got so used to it that when I watch a show in 4:3 again I think the people look to skinny!

I'll probably lose that ability when the ADS rollout is completed ... but I can compensate by watching through MCE (which will continue to get the analog signal, or OTA HD if I prefer).

I'm still looking forward to ADS even though I might lose that feature. Getting improved signal quality is worth it.

everyone please email TNT at tnt@turner.com and ask them to stop Stretching SD programming. In the subject line put "TNT in HD" .

Thanks,

Ken

Originally posted by kenvt
everyone please email TNT at tnt@turner.com and ask them to stop Stretching SD programming. In the subject line put "TNT in HD" .

Thanks,

Ken

good call.
thanks.

What channel is the Celtics game on? Both NBA TV and INHD are blacked out for me.

Originally posted by Ian Flux
What channel is the Celtics game on? Both NBA TV and INHD are blacked out for me.

FSN 52...No HD that I can find.

Anyone out there able to see the game in HD or are we all blacked out?

we are all blacked out, no hd tonight for the game

Sucks for those of us with only Basic + Digital Classic

This is ridiculous, a Celtics playoff game and we can't watch it in HD!. What gives, If FSN is carrying it then why not on INHD2?

Because FSN will loose their .10 ad revenue:rolleyes: because us viewers will flock to the better looking HD game on NBATV 881.

But why then was Game1 not blackedout on ESPN-HD:confused:

Originally posted by L Supreme
we are all blacked out, no hd tonight for the game

with the Cs down by 14 with 8 minuts togo,maybe we're better off :(

make that 19

Originally posted by roachxp
Because FSN will loose their .10 ad revenue:rolleyes: because us viewers will flock to the better looking HD game on NBATV 881.

But why then was Game1 not blackedout on ESPN-HD:confused:

From what I have heard ESPN and TNT are blackout proof for the playoffs. NBA TV is not

Originally posted by roachxp
Because FSN will loose their .10 ad revenue:rolleyes: because us viewers will flock to the better looking HD game on NBATV 881.

But why then was Game1 not blackedout on ESPN-HD:confused:

If it was on 882 it would be the same feed and they would lose nothing, So INHD carrys it as one of their NBA games and puts it on 881 for the rest of the country but black it out here to protect FSN-SD. this makes no sense, celtics fans cant watch it in HD but people outside this area can. And it's a road game to boot! MORONS!

Was watching UPN38 yesterday and saw a commercial saying "UPN-HD can be found on Comcast channel 838". Commercial was real fast. Not sure if it was a mistake to show it but 838 hasn't been turned on yet.

Anyone else see this commercial?

Originally posted by powaking
Was watching UPN38 yesterday and saw a commercial saying "UPN-HD can be found on Comcast channel 838". Commercial was real fast. Not sure if it was a mistake to show it but 838 hasn't been turned on yet.

Anyone else see this commercial?

I didn't see the commercial, but 838 has been on for a few weeks now.

Not in my area. At least not yet. Checked last night and this morning and no 838. 833 is on (TNT)

Originally posted by powaking
Not in my area. At least not yet. Checked last night and this morning and no 838. 833 is on (TNT)

I think you're another victim of the "Outside Boston DMA" issue that's been driving folks in Bristol country crazy. If you make the Boston DMA cut you get the Sox in HD on Fridays (home games and available away games) and if not you get a nice slap in the face from UPN, Comcast, or whatever collection of agencies decides this crap.

Powaking,No UPN 38 HD in Bristol County this year.We are outside the Boston designated market area.Comcast and UPN 38 failed to reach an agreement.From what Avic has said it is UPN 38's fault.

Ain't that a kicker in the pants. Damn you UPN!!!

Originally posted by avic
i assume you're an HD customer, since you're posting in this forum. why would you even watch ANY of the networks on channels 2-99? with WB and UPN added recently they're all in the HD block and Fox has been there for a long time.

Since I have a 4:3 standard TV (Sony Wega), I use the HD channels for 16:9 programming output at 480i, which is most of the shows I watch. But, for FOX Sunday cartoons and The Apprentice, and a few others I am SOL (don't want bars on top AND sides).
If the 6412 allows you to output 480i at 16:9 aspect ratio, I would be all set, because my TV can do an anamorphic squeeze, which I do for DVDs.

Originally posted by Ian Flux
Set the box to pan scan mode. You will lose none of the 4:3 image.

The 6412 allows you to output at 4:3 pan scan at 480i. Why not use that?

I checked the analogs tonight and there's still no sign of ADS here in Medford. Is it ever coming? It seems like Medford is the last town to get any new technologies from Comcast.

They must be punishing me for all the technicians I had come out here to fix my cable problem several months back :-)

Originally posted by tennberg
I checked the analogs tonight and there's still no sign of ADS here in Medford. Is it ever coming? It seems like Medford is the last town to get any new technologies from Comcast.

They must be punishing me for all the technicians I had come out here to fix my cable problem several months back :-)

Once you get ADS , you will be underwhelmed at best. ADS only brings about 5-10% improvement imho. If I have to choose between more HD channels and ADS , I will choose HD channels

Originally posted by jdoe7890
Once you get ADS , you will be underwhelmed at best. ADS only brings about 5-10% improvement imho. If I have to choose between more HD channels and ADS , I will choose HD channels

Once ADS is complete,I think they will eventually start making any channel above limited basic digital only.

That is what I would do.

tonight is scheduled for HD on UPN correct?


the pregame is not HD....

this is priceless....don and jerry don't know they are on HD during commercials on the SD channel and are humming and small talking...lol

Originally posted by jdoe7890
If I have to choose between more HD channels and ADS , I will choose HD channels It's not one or the other. The bandwidth opened up by switching analog channels to digital is what will eventually enable more HD channels (post simulcast).

Originally posted by tennberg
I checked the analogs tonight and there's still no sign of ADS here in Medford. Is it ever coming? It seems like Medford is the last town to get any new technologies from Comcast.

They must be punishing me for all the technicians I had come out here to fix my cable problem several months back :-)

Nah - no ADS down in Middleboro either...we were after you for the 256QAM as well.

Originally posted by stevehof
It's not one or the other. The bandwidth opened up by switching analog channels to digital is what will eventually enable more HD channels (post simulcast).

That's ways to go. With simulcast , no bandwidth is opened up.

Originally posted by stevehof
It's not one or the other. The bandwidth opened up by switching analog channels to digital is what will eventually enable more HD channels (post simulcast).

but they're not switching them to digital, they're adding digital in addition to the analog stations

Originally posted by Defraggerman
Powaking,No UPN 38 HD in Bristol County this year.We are outside the Boston designated market area.Comcast and UPN 38 failed to reach an agreement.From what Avic has said it is UPN 38's fault.

I have contacted BOTH UPN38 and Comcast. They are pointing fingers at each other on this issue. Go to both upn38.com and comcast.com and follow the links to email your complaints. Or wrte or call or whatever! Flood them both with complaints. There's NO valid reason I can sit and watch the Red Sox on UPN38 standard every Friday night but not on UPN38 HD. The Boston DMA excuse is a load of crap or 38 SD would be blacked out here. It is not!

Originally posted by dag16
but they're not switching them to digital, they're adding digital in addition to the analog stations

We did say EVENTUALLY!

Originally posted by pcardoza
I have contacted BOTH UPN38 and Comcast. They are pointing fingers at each other on this issue. Go to both upn38.com and comcast.com and follow the links to email your complaints. Or wrte or call or whatever! Flood them both with complaints. There's NO valid reason I can sit and watch the Red Sox on UPN38 standard every Friday night but not on UPN38 HD. The Boston DMA excuse is a load of crap or 38 SD would be blacked out here. It is not! I believe there is a contractual arrangement in place that does not permit Red Sox games on UPN38 to be shown outside the Boston DMA. Sponsors are involved. Your local Comcast office is in violation of that contract if they are not blacking out the game. I used to have Comcast in Taunton and the games were blacked out. It would be interesting to find out if others in Bristol County are seeing the Friday night games on UPN38 as well.

Viacom wants Comcast to carry UPN28 WLWC-DT in Bristol County when it goes on the air this summer. Just noticed that CN8, WB56, UPN38 ,CSPAN 1and2 have been ADS in Easton.

Benji,No blackout of UPN sd here in Easton.The Friday night games have never been blacked out here.I'm curious.If they did blackout the game would I see it on NESN HD 882.

Originally posted by Defraggerman
Benji,No blackout of UPN sd here in Easton.The Friday night games have never been blacked out here.I'm curious.If they did blackout the game would I see it on NESN HD 882. Earlier in this thread, I believe AVIC reported that UPN38 had not agreed to allow NESN to carry the HD transmission of the Friday night games, so the answer would be no.

The sponsors on the UPN38 and NESN telecast are not the same. Why would the NESN sponsors shell out big bucks for exclusivity outside of Boston only to have Comcast not honor that exclusivity?