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nvrlnd
09-12-05, 12:18 AM
Yeah, I was wondering that during the early game. The early game on CBS looked absolutely fantastic, and the ESPN night game looked great too, but the early game on Fox looked "480p-ish". Definetly not the same quality.

MickeyGee
09-12-05, 08:56 AM
Yeah, I was wondering that during the early game. The early game on CBS looked absolutely fantastic, and the ESPN night game looked great too, but the early game on Fox looked "480p-ish". Definetly not the same quality.
I agree. CBS was best, then ESPN, then Fox.

Mickey

dozens
09-12-05, 09:05 AM
Did anyone else notice that FOX HD on 825 doesn't look any better than 480p tonight? The football games look pretty blurry compared to those on ESPN HD, and the post-game show looks low-res widescreen as well.

The Saints-Panthers game was an upconvert, even D* didn't list it as HD. I don't understand why Fox's national game would be non-HD.

chitchatjf
09-12-05, 10:12 AM
The Saints-Panthers game was an upconvert, even D* didn't list it as HD. I don't understand why Fox's national game would be non-HD.

I thought foix was suppsooed to show EVERY game in HD!

roachxp
09-12-05, 11:13 AM
It was not HD since Fox64 in RI played it in SD.

dozens
09-12-05, 01:05 PM
It was not HD since Fox64 in RI played it in SD.

I just read in another thread that Fox only send 480i 4:3 or 720p 16:9 to its affliates. Did you see a 4:3 image on Fox64 ?

deathstroke
09-12-05, 01:12 PM
I just read in another thread that Fox only send 480i 4:3 or 720p 16:9 to its affliates. Did you see a 4:3 image on Fox64 ?


What I don't get is why the post-game show looked like it was 480p. Don't they have a real HD camera in the studio? At least the cartoons last night looked like real 720p.

roachxp
09-12-05, 01:35 PM
Yes it was 4:3 SD on Fox64, and 16:9 upconverted on Fox25. Both looked crappy so i didn't watch for long switched over to NESN Sox game instead which is way better looking..

dozens
09-12-05, 04:06 PM
When and what channel is the HD version of the NFL Network's Game of the Week ?

mkreef
09-12-05, 08:54 PM
I'm in Andover, MA, don't have HDTV yet, looking at new TV sets.

Does the HDTV cable box have HDMI output? I haven't talked to Comcast yet, I assume they will ask what my setup is?


The set I'm looking at has only 1 HDMI input, no DVI.

chitchatjf
09-12-05, 09:40 PM
When and what channel is the HD version of the NFL Network's Game of the Week ?

It would be on 882.

nvrlnd
09-12-05, 09:53 PM
I'm in Andover, MA, don't have HDTV yet, looking at new TV sets.

Does the HDTV cable box have HDMI output? I haven't talked to Comcast yet, I assume they will ask what my setup is?


The set I'm looking at has only 1 HDMI input, no DVI.


You're going to want the Phase III box then, it has the HDMI connection you need.

jackie C
09-12-05, 10:23 PM
Ok, Ijust had a Comcast Cablecard installed in a Sony A10. The pay channels and all the HD channels have stopped working for the 3rd time in 6 days. Is something wrong with the Cablecard or is this going to continue to happen?

rookiewill
09-13-05, 09:22 AM
I'm in Andover, MA, don't have HDTV yet, looking at new TV sets.

Does the HDTV cable box have HDMI output? I haven't talked to Comcast yet, I assume they will ask what my setup is?


The set I'm looking at has only 1 HDMI input, no DVI.

I have the Cable box with DVI output and my TV has an HDMI input. I purchased a DVI>>HDMI cable through one of the vendors that advertises on this site. Works great (although being on this board alone makes me want the HDMI-enabled box!)

dozens
09-13-05, 09:33 AM
It would be on 882.

Does it have a regular time each week ? Does it get preempted by Red Sox games ? Does it show up in the guide ?

MickeyGee
09-13-05, 10:38 AM
Does it have a regular time each week ? Does it get preempted by Red Sox games ? Does it show up in the guide ?
Last year they showed two different HD games. One on Wednesday night and one on Thursday night, both on InHD-2 (882). However, the Red Sox NESN-HD games were shown instead when there was a conflict.

Mickey

tennberg
09-13-05, 01:40 PM
Is anyone else getting a very jittery, noisy, unclear picture on Discovery HD (839)? I noticed this starting last week on all shows on that channel. All other HD channels have no jitter and are very clear and crisp.

I'm not sure if this is just isolated to Medford, my apartment, my box, or if this is possibly a larger issue.

xbigjoe
09-13-05, 05:51 PM
Tennberg,

Do you have a 6412 dual tuner DVR Phase III?

nvrlnd
09-13-05, 05:53 PM
Tenneberg, you're not alone. It's far from unwatchable, but DiscoveryHD has noticable jitter on a number of shows for me, while the rest of my HD channels come in perfect. And yep, i'm one of the Motorola 6412 Phase III people who output HDMI from box to set.

xbigjoe
09-13-05, 07:13 PM
There has been a flaw detected between the Phase III boxes and the head end equipment that is causing tiling, freezing, jittery pictures on certain channels like discovery hd. It is only the Phase III boxes doing this

Kaiser-Soze
09-13-05, 07:56 PM
I wonder if Ch4 is going to notice that they've been broadcasting the supreme court nomination hearings commercial free on 804 and are now showing people just walking around muttering...

bocmir
09-13-05, 11:24 PM
To everyone having PQ issues with Discovery.. (since there've been a few including me)

Here's where you need to go (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=574268)

This is not a Boston issue, not even just a Comcast issue. This is likely affecting everyone - if you haven't noticed it, well, you're not looking hard enough.

Tsunamii
09-14-05, 08:34 AM
Bocmir, thanks for the link. Good thread..

JAMDLP
09-14-05, 09:51 AM
I just read an article about MTV starting an HD Channel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050914/tv_nm/television_mtv_dc

Any one want to venture a guess as to when Comcast New England picks it up? I say September 2007. I'm still waiting on ESPN2HD.

MickeyGee
09-14-05, 10:34 AM
I just read an article about MTV starting an HD Channel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050914/tv_nm/television_mtv_dc

Any one want to venture a guess as to when Comcast New England picks it up? I say September 2007. I'm still waiting on ESPN2HD.
MHD and ESPN2HD on Comcast

I don’t believe these are necessarily sequential. The constraints are carriage agreements and bandwidth. Disney/ABC/ESPN has a contentious relationship with Comcast right now, and that may be the reason why we are not seeing ESPN-2HD on Comcast at the moment. Viacom (I believe) owns MTV and their relationship with Comcast is somewhat better. However, I would guess that Comcast will wait to see MHD up and running with significant HD content before they devote a new channel to it.

Mickey

JDLIVE
09-14-05, 01:05 PM
Guy at work said the tech who came to his house to install a DVR told him the Tivo software is expected in Jan 06. I of course take this with an extra large grain of salt, but thought I'd pass it along. :)

tennberg
09-14-05, 02:03 PM
Guy at work said the tech who came to his house to install a DVR told him the Tivo software is expected in Jan 06. I of course take this with an extra large grain of salt, but thought I'd pass it along. :)

Whenever it's due out, no matter how different or buggy it is, it will undoubtedly be better than the current iGuide.

Gabatta
09-15-05, 04:22 PM
Guy at work said the tech who came to his house to install a DVR told him the Tivo software is expected in Jan 06. I of course take this with an extra large grain of salt, but thought I'd pass it along. :)

Sweet! :p

elbig
09-15-05, 05:50 PM
How do I tell if my 6412 is phase III?

jackie C
09-15-05, 08:18 PM
Can someone tell me why on Nesn pre game Red Sox show, the audio is ahead of the lips moving?

xbigjoe
09-15-05, 09:18 PM
On the right front, looking at the box, It will have it printed. If you look at the back you will have an Rf out, Hdmi and Sata port. No more Dvi

dozens
09-16-05, 10:29 AM
Does anyone know if switched broadcast are in Comcast NE plans ? On a related topic, anyone know when digital voice will be available in NH ?

jadziedzic
09-16-05, 12:22 PM
Digital voice => digital phone service? I received a call from Comcast last week advising me that digital phone service will soon be available in Nashua, and asking if I'd like to order the service.

Tony

JonnyBlaze
09-16-05, 02:27 PM
can anyone with the comcast HD box tell me what outputs it has??

JDLIVE
09-17-05, 09:36 AM
can anyone with the comcast HD box tell me what outputs it has??

DVI, component, s-video, composite and firewire (IEEE1394). Sounds like the new boxes have HDMI instead of DVI.

http://broadband.motorola.com/dvr/images/dct6208_back.jpg

chitchatjf
09-17-05, 04:41 PM
On the right front, looking at the box, It will have it printed. If you look at the back you will have an Rf out, Hdmi and Sata port. No more Dvi

you mean they now have an RF output on the DVRS? :(

deskjockey
09-17-05, 05:30 PM
Yup. The one I got had it. i don't have an HD set, but connct via S-video. But tested the RF channel 3 output. Works fine. :)

chitchatjf
09-17-05, 09:57 PM
Yup. The one I got had it. i don't have an HD set, but connct via S-video. But tested the RF channel 3 output. Works fine. :)

I know that DVrs will downconvert HD channels to even the RF output. do you get the 800+ channels in letterbox format?

chitchatjf
09-18-05, 02:22 AM
NO HD on Enterprise reruns on channel 5. :(

hibricc
09-19-05, 10:09 AM
Anybody else notice CBS4 running "Solarmax" in HD over the weekend? Quite a surprise....

Shape
09-19-05, 10:18 AM
CBS 4 and UPN 38 run HD to the MAX every weekend, which is basically a series of IMax movies that have been converted to HD. Luckily they are one or two episodes seperated from eachother, so the same one isn't shown twice in one weekend.

CBS is nice because they broadcast Dolby Digital. UPN does not.

I have SolarMax recorded on my HTPC. I plan on burning it to DVD after re-encoding it with MPEG 4 and editing out the commercials. It is definitely one of the better ones.

dozens
09-19-05, 10:32 AM
During yesterday's Patriots game did anyone else think the players were a bit out of focus at times ? If I remember correctly I noticed it when the camera was far from the players getting all 22 of them before the snap of the ball. I will have to check my box when I get home but I am pretty sure it was set to 1080i (native format for CBS) so it was either the feed or my display.

Too bad I have to turn of the STB (and stop recording) in order to change the output resolution. I wish TV Guide would add this feature and not make us rely on going into the firmware to do it.

MickeyGee
09-19-05, 10:47 AM
During yesterday's Patriots game did anyone else think the players were a bit out of focus at times ? If I remember correctly I noticed it when the camera was far from the players getting all 22 of them before the snap of the ball. I will have to check my box when I get home but I am pretty sure it was set to 1080i (native format for CBS) so it was either the feed or my display.
It looked out of focus to me as well. I think it was the feed.

Mickey

grampy
09-19-05, 10:51 AM
During yesterday's Patriots game did anyone else think the players were a bit out of focus at times ? If I remember correctly I noticed it when the camera was far from the players getting all 22 of them before the snap of the ball. I will have to check my box when I get home but I am pretty sure it was set to 1080i (native format for CBS) so it was either the feed or my display.

Too bad I have to turn of the STB (and stop recording) in order to change the output resolution. I wish TV Guide would add this feature and not make us rely on going into the firmware to do it.

I agree, one of the worst HD sports broadcasts I've seen, very disappointing (and I don't mean the score). Even ch. 4 SD broadcast was of poor quality.

noreaster0
09-20-05, 11:19 AM
NO HD on Enterprise reruns on channel 5. :(

Do you know if all 98 episodes were shot in widescreen to accommodate future digital broadcasts?

Savadave
09-20-05, 11:39 AM
During yesterday's Patriots game did anyone else think the players were a bit out of focus at times ? If I remember correctly I noticed it when the camera was far from the players getting all 22 of them before the snap of the ball. I will have to check my box when I get home but I am pretty sure it was set to 1080i (native format for CBS) so it was either the feed or my display.




Yeah I definately saw that too, it wasn't your display. My friends and I all complained about it especially from that camera you said. Actually, I remember thinking that the other cameras looked ok, but the one from above with all the players looked really bad :(

chitchatjf
09-21-05, 02:34 PM
Do you know if all 98 episodes were shot in widescreen to accommodate future digital broadcasts?

Yes

L Supreme
09-22-05, 12:09 AM
as of now, ADS is complete in the Lowell area :D

chitchatjf
09-22-05, 09:21 AM
as of now, ADS is complete in the Lowell area :D

Lawrence too.

I notice they have the analog feed of WGBH on channel 97.

They still have AZN on channels 98 AND 251 on seperate digital freqencies.

DaveFi
09-22-05, 05:33 PM
Do you know if all 98 episodes were shot in widescreen to accommodate future digital broadcasts?As chitchatjf already noted, yes they were, but as of yet there is no way to distribute syndicated programing in HD.

chitchatjf
09-23-05, 12:17 AM
As chitchatjf already noted, yes they were, but as of yet there is no way to distribute syndicated programing in HD.

WHY NOT?

mgpt6
09-24-05, 02:53 PM
Will Comcast add any new HD channels when ADS is done? ADS still not done in Easton. Also, any negoations to add UPN28 -HD in Bristol County?

DaveFi
09-24-05, 04:26 PM
WHY NOT?Simply because there is no cheap and easy way to do it. It's more of a money issue right now than anything. Look at the Oprah thread over in the main HD forum which deals more on this topic.

chitchatjf
09-25-05, 12:53 AM
Simply because there is no cheap and easy way to do it. It's more of a money issue right now than anything. Look at the Oprah thread over in the main HD forum which deals more on this topic.

They could at least have done 16:9.

DaveFi
09-26-05, 10:07 AM
They could at least have done 16:9.Enterprise is 16:9 letterboxed on WCVB. It was always 16:9, even during it's first run.

macd23
09-26-05, 01:49 PM
The $58 price includes expanded basic. They can NOT require you to pruchase expanded basic in order to get digital. The HD locals (802,804,805,807,825,838,and 856) are considerd PART of Limited Basic.

In most areas expanded basic is on channels24-69 and incluses channels like Disney,niceloden,MTV,Fx,TBS,USA,Lifetime,CNN,NESN,Fox sports NE,Spike TV,comedy Central and Sci Fi channel.

With tier buy through digital you will NOT GET those channels.

Digital classic includes Discovery HD home theatre,ESPN HD, TNT HD,INHD1 and INHD2 featuring BRiuns and Red sox games from NESN HD and Celtic home games from FSN HD

Limited Basic is required to receive any other video service.


OK, I called comcast to setup an install. The rep on the phone did confirm I could order basic cable (~ $10/mo) and stack digital classic on it for (~ $5.95/mo) and then rent the HD box for (~ $8.95/mo) BUT he claims I would not be getting the following HD channels: UPN HD, WB HD, TNT HD, ESPN HD or INHD1 or INHD2( NESN HD).

Is he mistaken or is that correct? He claims to get the above HD channels along with the other locals I need the standard package (~ $46.95/mo) as the base.

nssteve
09-26-05, 03:37 PM
Can anyone tell me what firmware I should have for a 6200 box in Reading. Thanks

roachxp
09-26-05, 07:39 PM
FYI...Chronicle is HD tonight 1080i on ABC.

L Supreme
09-26-05, 07:41 PM
OK, I called comcast to setup an install. The rep on the phone did confirm I could order basic cable (~ $10/mo) and stack digital classic on it for (~ $5.95/mo) and then rent the HD box for (~ $8.95/mo) BUT he claims I would not be getting the following HD channels: UPN HD, WB HD, TNT HD, ESPN HD or INHD1 or INHD2( NESN HD).

Is he mistaken or is that correct? He claims to get the above HD channels along with the other locals I need the standard package (~ $46.95/mo) as the base.


He is mistaken, basic will give you all local HD available in your area & classic, you will get TNT, ESPN, DISCOVERY, INHD1 & 2

chitchatjf
09-26-05, 08:49 PM
OK, I called comcast to setup an install. The rep on the phone did confirm I could order basic cable (~ $10/mo) and stack digital classic on it for (~ $5.95/mo) and then rent the HD box for (~ $8.95/mo) BUT he claims I would not be getting the following HD channels: UPN HD, WB HD, TNT HD, ESPN HD or INHD1 or INHD2( NESN HD).

Is he mistaken or is that correct? He claims to get the above HD channels along with the other locals I need the standard package (~ $46.95/mo) as the base.

Like LSupreme said,the guy was mistaken in that. UPN HD is Ch 38. WB HD is ch 56. Those are all PART of limited basic!

As for ESPN HD and TNT HD they technically could require extended but at this time they do NOT. They may be confusing with the movie channels where you have to get HBO in order to get HBO HD.

It is possible to get JUST limited basic AND the HD box. ThAT would black out those channels.

chitchatjf
09-26-05, 08:52 PM
Enterprise is 16:9 letterboxed on WCVB. It was always 16:9, even during it's first run.

480i widescreen is what I would have liked if we couldn't get full HD

chitchatjf
09-26-05, 08:54 PM
FYI...Chronicle is HD tonight 1080i on ABC.

NOW you tell me an hour after it is all over. :)

BTW PBS Sprout is now on Ch 218.

It looks like Movieplex will be added on channel 200 this Friday

bostonaod
09-27-05, 03:56 PM
Dolby 5.1 Question:

Hi, I'm completely new here just looking for a little guidance.

I've got the Motorola 6412, with an optical out to my receiver. What I noticed early on is that I only get the 5.1 sound on one of the tuners (tuner a), and a "normal" audio reception on the other tuner (b).

On tuner a, I do not receive any audio signal at all on stations which are not digital (FX being the one I tune into most), and on tuner b I don't receive any 5.1 signals. I know this because my tuner allows me to change the pro logic settings normally, but not when the programming is in 5.1

This causes some big problems when trying to record certain programming, because I can never really tell which tuner the program will be recorded to. If the 5.1 tuner records The Shield, I won't have any audio whatsoever when I go to watch it later. However, every now and then both tuners drop into the "normal" audio reception where I can record and receive audio signals (albeit none in 5.1) for non-digital stations. Resetting the cable box will generally bring back the 5.1 reception.

I guess my question is - is this normal? Am I only supposed to be able to listen to DD 5.1 sound on one tuner and not the other? Also, is there any way for me to know WHICH tuner a certain program will record on. It's driving me nuts!

Thanks, and sorry for making this so long

davatar
09-27-05, 09:52 PM
Ok, these threads are insane!!!! proposal - How about the first post keep the currently available channel information? Especially things like QAM channel/subchannel and transmitted in the clear vs encrypted? I'm running mythtv with a newly added QAM HD card, and since comcast doesn't supply PSIP info, channel scanning is _useless_. It would be awesome to have what/where people have tuned in!!!!

Thanks.

bocmir
09-28-05, 12:05 AM
Two nights in a row now, I've lost my HD channels shortly after midnight. They seem to come back after a little while. Anyone else notice this?

L Supreme
09-28-05, 12:10 AM
Two nights in a row now, I've lost my HD channels shortly after midnight. They seem to come back after a little while. Anyone else notice this?


Its happening to me too, all chnls above 98 are dead. I'm not sure whats happening

bocmir
09-28-05, 12:14 AM
You're right, I didn't even check the digital channels. Some SD channels don't have sound either.

LKupersmith
09-28-05, 12:25 AM
Same here - nothing above 98.

chitchatjf
09-28-05, 06:56 AM
Its happening to me too, all chnls above 98 are dead. I'm not sure whats happening

Happened top me last night.

At first I thought it was comcast's way of saying You don't have extendedn basic you can't get anything else anymore,but I know this is not the case.

jdbnh
09-28-05, 09:25 AM
Dolby 5.1 Question:

Hi, I'm completely new here just looking for a little guidance.

I've got the Motorola 6412, with an optical out to my receiver. What I noticed early on is that I only get the 5.1 sound on one of the tuners (tuner a), and a "normal" audio reception on the other tuner (b).

On tuner a, I do not receive any audio signal at all on stations which are not digital (FX being the one I tune into most), and on tuner b I don't receive any 5.1 signals. I know this because my tuner allows me to change the pro logic settings normally, but not when the programming is in 5.1

This causes some big problems when trying to record certain programming, because I can never really tell which tuner the program will be recorded to. If the 5.1 tuner records The Shield, I won't have any audio whatsoever when I go to watch it later. However, every now and then both tuners drop into the "normal" audio reception where I can record and receive audio signals (albeit none in 5.1) for non-digital stations. Resetting the cable box will generally bring back the 5.1 reception.

I guess my question is - is this normal? Am I only supposed to be able to listen to DD 5.1 sound on one tuner and not the other? Also, is there any way for me to know WHICH tuner a certain program will record on. It's driving me nuts!

Thanks, and sorry for making this so long

No, it is not normal. Both tuners should provide 5.1 audio when the programming is 5.1. There is a known problem where the box sometimes starts outputting analog audio (on both tuners), but simply powering the box off and back on again (no need to reset it) restores the digital audio. That bug only affects output, it doesn't affect recording.

If you are only getting 5.1 audio from one tuner, you may have a bad box. And no, I don't think there is any way to know in advance which tuner a program will record on.

georgemoe
09-28-05, 09:48 AM
Hello. New to this thread but not to the forums.

I've tried searching this topic but really couldn't come to any conclusions. My dad has Comcast is is considering making the jump to HD. He is still analog with a set top box. One of his favorite channels is NESN. He has no desire for PPV, On Demand, movie channels, etc.

I'd like to get him a Sony 16x9 with QAM tuner. What is the bare minimum that he needs from Comcast in order to get NESN in HD? Is it encrypted and will he need the cablecard in order to receive NESN HD? Will basic or limited basic still give him NESN?

Thanks!

kenvt
09-28-05, 10:21 AM
What is Movieplex, and will it be digital basic ?

-Ken

L Supreme
09-28-05, 10:46 AM
What is Movieplex, and will it be digital basic ?

-Ken

movieplex is a themed movie channel. different theme each day. I "think" its going to be put in classic, but it "might" not require a digital package to recieve it like 217 wgbh kids.

L Supreme
09-28-05, 10:50 AM
Hello. New to this thread but not to the forums.

I've tried searching this topic but really couldn't come to any conclusions. My dad has Comcast is is considering making the jump to HD. He is still analog with a set top box. One of his favorite channels is NESN. He has no desire for PPV, On Demand, movie channels, etc.

I'd like to get him a Sony 16x9 with QAM tuner. What is the bare minimum that he needs from Comcast in order to get NESN in HD? Is it encrypted and will he need the cablecard in order to receive NESN HD? Will basic or limited basic still give him NESN?

Thanks!


Without losing any current chnls, he can have the analog box swapped out with a HD one & add digital classic. Classic is the minimum required to get INHD2/NESN in HD, but he will get aprox 30 dig chnls & VOD also. Its $5.95 for the classic. It will be an aprox increase on his bill by $8-10 if he does it that way.

dozens
09-28-05, 10:54 AM
movieplex is a themed movie channel. different theme each day. I "think" its going to be put in classic, but it "might" not require a digital package to recieve it like 217 wgbh kids.

Are the movies in HD ? If not, whats the point :)

L Supreme
09-28-05, 11:00 AM
Are the movies in HD ? If not, whats the point :)


I haven't heard anything about it being HD, so I'm going to say no, but there is an extremely small likelyhood that I could be wrong.

georgemoe
09-28-05, 11:35 AM
Without losing any current chnls, he can have the analog box swapped out with a HD one & add digital classic. Classic is the minimum required to get INHD2/NESN in HD, but he will get aprox 30 dig chnls & VOD also. Its $5.95 for the classic. It will be an aprox increase on his bill by $8-10 if he does it that way.

Thanks for the reply L Supreme. I'm trying to get him a Sony 30XS955 and do not want to start with a setop or cablecard. Just straight cable. I'd like to return the analog box. Would limited basic and digital classic still give him access to SD NESN channel or only the NESN HD programming broadcast on INHD2? He would still want the SD NESN programming so that would be a must.

Is there any detailed Comcast tier-buy-through info posted. What channels are available in what tier? I'm in N.Worcester County. Thanks!

macd23
09-28-05, 04:01 PM
He is mistaken, basic will give you all local HD available in your area & classic, you will get TNT, ESPN, DISCOVERY, INHD1 & 2

Ok. Well I tried calling back and spoke to another customer service rep. He too seemed to agree with the first rep, although he didn't sound 100% sure of himself or what I was asking. I will try and ask the tech who comes out to set it up I guess.

I guess one thing I could try is simply starting off with Basic + Digital Classic +HD Box and see what that exactly gets me, then If I have to upgrade to Standard if I am missing Discovery, ESPN, TNT and the INHDs. I imagine I can have the tech set it up the first way and see where it goes then either have him adjust it again or call if I need to. It would be a huge savings to do it with basic, and again my only priority is getting the majority of the HD channels.

chitchatjf
09-28-05, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the reply L Supreme. I'm trying to get him a Sony 30XS955 and do not want to start with a setop or cablecard. Just straight cable. I'd like to return the analog box. Would limited basic and digital classic still give him access to SD NESN channel or only the NESN HD programming broadcast on INHD2? He would still want the SD NESN programming so that would be a must.

Is there any detailed Comcast tier-buy-through info posted. What channels are available in what tier? I'm in N.Worcester County. Thanks!

Expanded basic (chs 24-69) is a seprate tier. It is NOT required in order to get digital cable. The teir buy through customers (Limited basic and digital) can get the same digital packages and poay the same rates as those who have extended.

Since he NEEDS SD NESN,then EXTENDED basic is a MUST!
Analog boxes are IMHO now worthless.

chitchatjf
09-28-05, 05:31 PM
movieplex is a themed movie channel. different theme each day. I "think" its going to be put in classic, but it "might" not require a digital package to recieve it like 217 wgbh kids.

most likely digital classic as it is intedned to be put on a tier LOWER then those the Encore channels are on.
They just redo each Encore channel each day (one a day) with a one hour time difference. for example if star Wars were to air on Encore Action at 7pm. Movieplex would air it at 8pm.

Movieplex will not air any R films,though.

georgemoe
09-28-05, 10:41 PM
Expanded basic (chs 24-69) is a seprate tier. It is NOT required in order to get digital cable. The teir buy through customers (Limited basic and digital) can get the same digital packages and poay the same rates as those who have extended.

Since he NEEDS SD NESN,then EXTENDED basic is a MUST!
Analog boxes are IMHO now worthless.

Thanks chitchatjf. Looks like he can lose the analog box but will still have to pay for the extended basic.

scooterboy
09-29-05, 03:49 PM
Am I seeing things, or is Letterman back to SD recently?

Lodef
09-30-05, 12:20 AM
Am I seeing things, or is Letterman back to SD recently?

I think some were repeats this week that were before they went HD.

xbigjoe
09-30-05, 06:51 AM
September 29th came and left with no ADS. ADS was suppose to launch yesterday and never happened. Anyoneone have an update? I am interested in Peabody, MA and Saugus, MA. If there is any info please share. Thanks :o

dozens
09-30-05, 07:56 AM
Does anyone know how Comcast will handle the Red Sox, Bruins home and OLN HD games when there is a conflict ? Will both INHD1 & INHD2 be preempted ? According to thisthread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=585294&page=2) there are 25 NHL games in HD on OLN.

L Supreme
09-30-05, 08:03 AM
Does anyone know how Comcast will handle the Red Sox, Bruins home and OLN HD games when there is a conflict ? Will both INHD1 & INHD2 be preempted ? According to thisthread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=585294&page=2) there are 25 NHL games in HD on OLN.


The last HD Sox game on 882 will be on 10/2 & the 1st possible OLN HD game is 10/5, so no conflict. Bruins will be on 882 for home games in HD & the Celtics & Bruins both can't be home at the same time. The only issues will be when Celtics are in HD & there is a NHL game; I bet OLN HD will be on 881 to avoid conflict with the Celtics.

dozens
09-30-05, 08:12 AM
What about nights when the Bruins are home and there is a non-Bruins OLN HD game ? Will hockey be shown on 881 & 882 ?

L Supreme
09-30-05, 08:18 AM
What about nights when the Bruins are home and there is a non-Bruins OLN HD game ? Will hockey be shown on 881 & 882 ?


I don't see why not, its just like having a Redsox game on 882 & another baseball game on 849. As long as its different content, why would it be blacked out.

This would only work this way if 881 broadcasts OLN HD, if 882 does it instead, my theory goes out the window. :(

MickeyGee
09-30-05, 09:04 AM
The last HD Sox game on 882 will be on 10/2 & the 1st possible OLN HD game is 10/5, so no conflict. Bruins will be on 882 for home games in HD & the Celtics & Bruins both can't be home at the same time. The only issues will be when Celtics are in HD & there is a NHL game; I bet OLN HD will be on 881 to avoid conflict with the Celtics.
I doubt that Comcast would pre-empt both InHD-1 and InHD-2 at the same time. Obviously, the time has come for an additional Comcast special events HD channel if they will not be giving OLN its own channel. For example, they could establish 883 and use that to host Sox, Bruins, Celtics and OLN, and then only use 882 when there is a conflict.

Mickey

capecodguy
09-30-05, 09:26 AM
I'll apologize in advance as I know this has been addressed here but I just can't find it. I just purchased a Philips 37" LCD with a built in QAM tuner and cablecard slot. I'm having trouble with the Cable card (it seems like it needs new initializing on a daily basis) so I'm considering ditching the card and living with just the unscrambled channels. The trouble is, I can't find them (without the card the TV scans through all kinds of sub-channels like 82.1, 82.2 etc. ) Any idea where I find 802,804,805,807,838,849,856, and 882 specifically?

I appreciate any and all replies.

L Supreme
09-30-05, 09:36 AM
I'll apologize in advance as I know this has been addressed here but I just can't find it. I just purchased a Philips 37" LCD with a built in QAM tuner and cablecard slot. I'm having trouble with the Cable card (it seems like it needs new initializing on a daily basis) so I'm considering ditching the card and living with just the unscrambled channels. The trouble is, I can't find them (without the card the TV scans through all kinds of sub-channels like 82.1, 82.2 etc. ) Any idea where I find 802,804,805,807,838,849,856, and 882 specifically?

I appreciate any and all replies.


I'm not sure where you would find the channels on your set, but without the cable card or a stb, you will only get 802,804,805,807,825,838 & 856. The other channels, 833, 839, 849,881, and 882 are scrambled & a QAM tuner is not enough to get them.

hammersfd
09-30-05, 11:23 AM
anything on ADS for the North Shore???? Lynn, Saugus?????

ehanson555
09-30-05, 12:18 PM
Is there any word on whether Fox will be carrying this weekend's Red Sox / Yankees game in HD? I know that normally the game is not in HD, but this being the most important regular season series for the Red Sox (and Yankees) in quite a while, I would hope they would make an exception. According to the Globe this morning, Joe Buck will be back to team with McCarver. So it looks like they are putting some importance to it.

st_nick
09-30-05, 12:38 PM
I've been seeing some (most? all?) of the Fox games in 720p since last year's playoffs, and possibly even a couple of games before that.

ehanson555
09-30-05, 12:57 PM
I think those are all upconverted signals in widescreen for regular season games. The playoffs are all in HD.

c-geek
09-30-05, 02:44 PM
I just got a new HD DVR box yesterday.. and I found that the program listings in the guide is filled only for one day - nothing for tomorrow.

Also, I recorded a show - and if i try to forward it - it goes back and starts from the beginning. so only way to watch it is to play it and let it run continously. didn't try to pause or stop it and restart it yet - to see if that continues from where we stopped/paused.

any ideas ? or is this how comcast dvr boxes work ? I hope this is just a glitch that can be easily corrected ;- )

Gabatta
09-30-05, 03:10 PM
I just got a new HD DVR box yesterday.. and I found that the program listings in the guide is filled only for one day - nothing for tomorrow.

It takes a bit for the guide data to download. You should have a full two weeks worth by tomorrow morning.

chitchatjf
09-30-05, 06:40 PM
I'll apologize in advance as I know this has been addressed here but I just can't find it. I just purchased a Philips 37" LCD with a built in QAM tuner and cablecard slot. I'm having trouble with the Cable card (it seems like it needs new initializing on a daily basis) so I'm considering ditching the card and living with just the unscrambled channels. The trouble is, I can't find them (without the card the TV scans through all kinds of sub-channels like 82.1, 82.2 etc. ) Any idea where I find 802,804,805,807,838,849,856, and 882 specifically?

I appreciate any and all replies.

somewhere in the 80.x range.

They will not map to the 8xx channels.

882 is encryted.

RickInMA
09-30-05, 07:12 PM
They don't have the NESN-HD Feed on the INHD2 channel like they usually do - what is the deal?

I have ESPN, ESPN-HD, and UPN blacked out....but the game is in SD...looks awful

I guess I should be thankful it's on at all

stephenju
09-30-05, 07:12 PM
Is any one else getting choppy sound and blocky image in the Red Sox game on 838? It's really bad right now.

DaveFi
09-30-05, 07:15 PM
Because it's on UPN38. Change to channel 838.

L Supreme
09-30-05, 07:39 PM
anything on ADS for the North Shore???? Lynn, Saugus?????


Soon, Real Soon :D

stephenju
09-30-05, 07:53 PM
So I am the only one getting video and audio breakups in Sox game? The ADS channel 14 of UPN38 is OK. So are all the other channels. Only 838 has this problem. Odd.

roachxp
09-30-05, 08:43 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows when Boston's CBS which is O&O will do their local news in HD.
According to HDnets conference they had a VP at CBS says all their O&O will be HD few soon in near future for newscast.

chitchatjf
09-30-05, 09:02 PM
Does anyone get Movieplex yet?

Iget not authorized?

Is this a extended basic but you need a digital box to get it channel (I have digital platinum withOUT extended basic)

I know I dont really need it as it is generally a rebroadcast of each seperat Encore channel each day on a one hour delay,but there is a GOOD variety of programming for ONE channel.

BSTNFAN
09-30-05, 09:04 PM
So I am the only one getting video and audio breakups in Sox game? The ADS channel 14 of UPN38 is OK. So are all the other channels. Only 838 has this problem. Odd.

The game is coming in fine here (Chelmsford) on 838. As long as the Sox keep winning, everything is good here!

L Supreme
09-30-05, 09:20 PM
Does anyone get Movieplex yet?

Iget not authorized?

Is this a extended basic but you need a digital box to get it channel (I have digital platinum withOUT extended basic)

I know I dont really need it as it is generally a rebroadcast of each seperat Encore channel each day on a one hour delay,but there is a GOOD variety of programming for ONE channel.


yes, its an extended basic channel

chitchatjf
09-30-05, 11:40 PM
yes, its an extended basic channel

Then ewhy is is on digital? Most digital subscribers get digital plus anyway.

BTW they also added Logo on 281 and I get that.

hammersfd
10-01-05, 01:21 AM
thanks supreme!!!!!! :D

L Supreme
10-01-05, 03:20 AM
Then ewhy is is on digital? Most digital subscribers get digital plus anyway.

BTW they also added Logo on 281 and I get that.


not exactly there are manu customers that have a dig box & no package. its just one more incentive why someone should get a box even if they only want standard.

Marco99
10-01-05, 12:27 PM
Two quick questions out there for the people who have them:

1. What's the model of the HD Comcast cable box that supports HDMI?

2. Is anyone using the HDMI output to their HDTV and is it superior to component or DVI?

Thanks for any information!

hammersfd
10-01-05, 01:12 PM
anyone else getting the bad audio sync on fox25? i'm getting it on comcast and my ota tuner.

dont24
10-01-05, 01:20 PM
I'm getting it on Comcast as well. Better be fixed before the game starts!!!

Kaiser-Soze
10-01-05, 01:23 PM
its like 10 seconds off! Only happens on 825 ch 13 synchs up good, but not nearly as good looking

dont24
10-01-05, 01:29 PM
Who can we call to complain? This sucks.......

I wish the game was on 38 or NESN. Much better picture than FOX's 720p!

hammersfd
10-01-05, 01:30 PM
well the sound is fixed, but this picture is HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a disgrace!

richm99
10-01-05, 01:35 PM
Pathetic. FOX s*cks. As usual. They do one game a week and cannot get it straight.
Oops, Sheff goes deep and the lawn needs mowing anyway.

Lodef
10-01-05, 02:51 PM
This game is not in HD, looks like 16:9 SD

bocmir
10-01-05, 03:07 PM
This game is not in HD, looks like 16:9 SDYou're right, this is the case with FOX regular season baseball. Playoffs are all 720p, but regular season games are 16:9 480p. Kind of ridiculous that they have this stranglehold on Saturday afternoon baseball, and they can't even do it in HD.

chitchatjf
10-01-05, 08:05 PM
You're right, this is the case with FOX regular season baseball. Playoffs are all 720p, but regular season games are 16:9 480p. Kind of ridiculous that they have this stranglehold on Saturday afternoon baseball, and they can't even do it in HD.

and they have HD cameras that were not being used.

chitchatjf
10-01-05, 08:06 PM
not exactly there are manu customers that have a dig box & no package. its just one more incentive why someone should get a box even if they only want standard.

It is not like i "need" it as I get digital plus.-come to think of it I get digital PLATINUM!
OTOH it sort of starts a new "Digital only standard" tier.

jdoe7890
10-02-05, 06:55 PM
Woburn - MA approves FIOS TV . Live next door in Burlington. Should be exciting with three providers : Comcast , RCN and Verizon.

xbigjoe
10-03-05, 05:10 AM
Sorry, Would never go with Verizon for anything. Has anyone noticed you see Verizon trucks parked on the side of the road all the time reading the paper? That's because they are so busy with the 3 jobs they were assigned that day. So if your cable has an issue they should be there in about a week. poor service

Contsi
10-03-05, 09:05 AM
Not a big deal, but VH1 Country seem to have disappeared from the line-up,
I believe it was on channel 276. Anyone else notice this?

chitchatjf
10-03-05, 09:28 AM
Not a big deal, but VH1 Country seem to have disappeared from the line-up,
I believe it was on channel 276. Anyone else notice this?

Please note we have some channel changes: Effective September 29, VH1 Soul will move from the Digital Plus Package to the Digital Classic Package. In addition, VH1 Country will move from the Digital Classic Package to the Digital Plus Package.

probobly only have digital classic. Still have it here

YesJim
10-03-05, 11:00 AM
So I've seen several posts regarding Bruins in HD this year, but I cannot find a schedule like the one NESN posted in the spring with all the Sox HD broadcasts. According to the NESN site, almost all B's games will be in HD but I'm not sure what that means. As others have mentioned, when the Celts broadcast at the same time in HD it will be interesting to see who gets the nod. My bet is that even if a B's road game is in HD when the Celts are at home, we'll only get to see the Celts in HD.

The Sox games shouldn't be an issue any more because I think all playoffs are national now. Anyone griping about Fox should search this thread - someone posted some tech stuff why the Fox HD broadcasts look crappy. Supposedly FOX will have the BEST HD at some point down the road as they upgrade over time...I'll believe it when I see it.

Contsi
10-03-05, 01:49 PM
Please note we have some channel changes: Effective September 29, VH1 Soul will move from the Digital Plus Package to the Digital Classic Package. In addition, VH1 Country will move from the Digital Classic Package to the Digital Plus Package.

probobly only have digital classic. Still have it here

Nice of Comcast to take something away and replace it with something else with total disregard to the customer.

c-geek
10-03-05, 03:11 PM
my comcast feed goes blank - twice today. guide shows up - but when i choose a channel, i get a black screen. The only workaround I found is to choose a recording via My DVR - play that, and then exit, and then all channels show up. any permanent workaround for this ?
or how do I avoid this black screen in the first place.
can anyone shed some light on this behavior ?

L Supreme
10-03-05, 03:18 PM
my comcast feed goes blank - twice today. guide shows up - but when i choose a channel, i get a black screen. The only workaround I found is to choose a recording via My DVR - play that, and then exit, and then all channels show up. any permanent workaround for this ?
or how do I avoid this black screen in the first place.
can anyone shed some light on this behavior ?


unplug it from the power outlet, then plug it back in. this will fix the problem, but you will lose your guide info.

jaydee353
10-03-05, 03:59 PM
Some Bruin Road HD games added to my guide on Ch 882

Obviously Home opener Wed Oct 5 7PM (HD)

1st Road Trip
Sat Oct 8 @ Pitt 7:30PM (HD)
Mon Oct 10 @ TB 7:30PM (HD)
Thu Oct 13 @ Fla 7PM (HD)
Sat Oct 15 @ Ottawa 7PM (HD)

Only game not in HD is Fri Oct 7 @ Buffalo.

bocmir
10-03-05, 04:14 PM
Two quick questions out there for the people who have them:

1. What's the model of the HD Comcast cable box that supports HDMI?

2. Is anyone using the HDMI output to their HDTV and is it superior to component or DVI?1. 6412 "Phase III". Most areas should have them by now; if you say you want HDMI, they should know what you're talking about. Only way to know is to go to your local office, as they can't give you availability info over the phone.

2. HDMI and DVI are the same digital signal. The only advantage that HDMI has is that it carries audio as well. Both are better than component, but not by a huge amount. However, these boxes have a MUCH improved analog tuner. The older 6412s make SD content look terrible; using a Phase III, it looks almost as good as if you were hooking your cable directly from the wall to the TV (which is what a lot of people do).

Sorry, Would never go with Verizon for anything. Has anyone noticed you see Verizon trucks parked on the side of the road all the time reading the paper? That's because they are so busy with the 3 jobs they were assigned that day.You make it sound as if Verizon techs are the only ones who do this. The only time I had an issue with Verizon, the tech actually called me to make sure I would be around - I told him I wouldn't be there in the morning, so he flipped his schedule around so he could come back later and help me out.

But really, comparing Verizon service to Comcast service, on the whole, is really like comparing the lesser of two evils. Which is actually the lesser, I don't know.

YesJim
10-03-05, 04:15 PM
Some Bruin Road HD games added to my guide on Ch 882

Obviously Home opener Wed Oct 5 7PM (HD)

1st Road Trip
Sat Oct 8 @ Pitt 7:30PM (HD)
Mon Oct 10 @ TB 7:30PM (HD)
Thu Oct 13 @ Fla 7PM (HD)
Sat Oct 15 @ Ottawa 7PM (HD)

Only game not in HD is Fri Oct 7 @ Buffalo.


Nice! I'll check my guide. I wonder if UPN38 will be doing Fridays? They're listed as broadcasting at least some games.

YesJim
10-03-05, 04:22 PM
However, these boxes have a MUCH improved analog tuner. The older 6412s make SD content look terrible; using a Phase III, it looks almost as good as if you were hooking your cable directly from the wall to the TV (which is what a lot of people do).



Can anyone else verify the better SD quality? I hadn't heard this and I'll get my mitts on a Phase III box right away if others note the same thing!

toots
10-03-05, 04:30 PM
But really, comparing Verizon service to Comcast service, on the whole, is really like comparing the lesser of two evils. Which is actually the lesser, I don't know.

In my experience Comcast's service is much less evil than Verizon's. And marginally more competent to boot.

Verizon would have to offer some serious pricing/bandwidth incentives to even make me consider giving up the comparative stability and quality of Comcast's service, as much as it pains me to use those words in the vicinity of "Comcast."

jackie C
10-03-05, 06:09 PM
Two quick questions out there for the people who have them:

1. What's the model of the HD Comcast cable box that supports HDMI?

2. Is anyone using the HDMI output to their HDTV and is it superior to component or DVI?

Thanks for any information!



I too would like to know if component hookup from dvr to hdtv produces an inferior PQ than does a Hdmi hookup?

chitchatjf
10-03-05, 06:58 PM
Nice of Comcast to take something away and replace it with something else with total disregard to the customer.

It was noted in the SEptember bill!

they are required to give 30 days notice. they did.

I have digital platinum so I noticed no difference.

chitchatjf
10-03-05, 06:59 PM
Nice! I'll check my guide. I wonder if UPN38 will be doing Fridays? They're listed as broadcasting at least some games.

I was under the impression that hockey and basketball was an all cable situation.
A few games on channel 7 maybe but that's it.

Joseph S
10-03-05, 09:13 PM
Are any of the local Boston or nearby OTA stations simulcasting the Red Sox playoff games from ESPN in SD or HD?

Heading back Wed and was thinking of bringing one my little EyeTV 500 boxes to get this. Can only schedule the D-VHS at home to tape one of the last 4 games otherwise on ESPNHD.

bocmir
10-03-05, 10:44 PM
I too would like to know if component hookup from dvr to hdtv produces an inferior PQ than does a Hdmi hookup?I sort of answered this already, but yes, component is inferior to HDMI/DVI. HDMI and DVI are digital connections. Component is analog. While they both carry HD content, they aren't equal.

HDMI/DVI = digital source > carried through a digital cable > ending at a digital display
Component = digital source > carried through an analog cable > ending at a digital display

Using component introduces noise into the picture due to the extra conversion that takes place. Honestly, though, the degradation isn't as big as you might assume. It's mostly only noticable on large displays, and the "noise" is mostly only noticable on still images, menu screens, etc.

ScoopsHD
10-03-05, 11:30 PM
I sort of answered this already, but yes, component is inferior to HDMI/DVI. HDMI and DVI are digital connections. Component is analog. While they both carry HD content, they aren't equal.

HDMI/DVI = digital source > carried through a digital cable > ending at a digital display
Component = digital source > carried through an analog cable > ending at a digital display

Using component introduces noise into the picture due to the extra conversion that takes place. Honestly, though, the degradation isn't as big as you might assume. It's mostly only noticable on large displays, and the "noise" is mostly only noticable on still images, menu screens, etc.

You're outline doesn't pan out if you have a plain old CRT HDTV or CRT Rear Projection, where the CRT is in fact an analog carrier. It would then be a question of whether your TV has a better Digital to Analog converter then the HD settop. Then again, its also ALOT about personal preference. Some people prefer the warmer color saturation of the component video cables as opposed to the crisper cooler color saturation of the digital bits. Visual representation of the real world is all subjective to the viewer and honestly the differences between component and digital quality are minimal enough that you would need to have a real practiced eye to pick out the differences, an eye trained to find those tiny imperfections.

chitchatjf
10-03-05, 11:33 PM
Are any of the local Boston or nearby OTA stations simulcasting the Red Sox playoff games from ESPN in SD or HD?

Heading back Wed and was thinking of bringing one my little EyeTV 500 boxes to get this. Can only schedule the D-VHS at home to tape one of the last 4 games otherwise on ESPNHD.

WCVB will have any games not seen on fox.

ESPN will not be subject to blackout so we can see the same in HD on 849 if not 805 as well.

Joseph S
10-04-05, 05:22 AM
WCVB will have any games not seen on fox.

Thank you very much for the info as the first three are on ESPN HD and I can only get the first two on D-VHS. My sister thought it was on 5, but wasn't sure. Boston.com lists ESPN only.

So is the QAM available on every Comcast line? My parents still have an analog box/cable modem. However, my sister has digital Comcast in Southie.

How's the OTA WCVB 4:3 upconvert in the case that I'm stuck with OTA only PVR situation. Our local Hearst-Argyle station does a terrible job with it?

If they go to Fox for games 4 + 5, I can schedule my home machine remotely to do the taping and save some portable HD space.

Sure wish I had brought the EyeTV unit home last year to get the post win coverage in HD or SD upconvert.

MickeyGee
10-04-05, 07:29 AM
In today's Globe, Bill Griffith mentioned that OLN's HD hockey games will be shown on Comcast channel 881.

Mickey

dozens
10-04-05, 08:36 AM
Some Bruin Road HD games added to my guide on Ch 882

Obviously Home opener Wed Oct 5 7PM (HD)

1st Road Trip
Sat Oct 8 @ Pitt 7:30PM (HD)
Mon Oct 10 @ TB 7:30PM (HD)
Thu Oct 13 @ Fla 7PM (HD)
Sat Oct 15 @ Ottawa 7PM (HD)

Only game not in HD is Fri Oct 7 @ Buffalo.

Thank you Bruins, NESN and Comcast !

dozens
10-04-05, 08:39 AM
I too would like to know if component hookup from dvr to hdtv produces an inferior PQ than does a Hdmi hookup?

Yes, any time you go from Digital to Analog (D to A) or Analog to Digital (A to D) your picture quality will suffer. If you display is a CRT then going to component won't hurt you, the only question is what piece of equipment has a better D to A converter.

dozens
10-04-05, 08:42 AM
If they go to Fox for games 4 + 5, I can schedule my home machine remotely to do the taping and save some portable HD space.

Sure wish I had brought the EyeTV unit home last year to get the post win coverage in HD or SD upconvert.

EyeTv allows remote scheduling or is it some complicated hack you put together ? I don't want to go too far off topic but would love to hear more about EyeTv, is there a thread on AVS discussion it ? Feel free to PM me.

Joseph S
10-04-05, 08:47 AM
You can do remote scheduling through TitanTV's website and choosing the "Remote Schedule" option. The EyeTV application will check with the website for your list daily/hourly/at your request. However, I will do it via Timbuktu Pro because the games are usually only "scheduled" to run for 3 hours, but we all know sporting events never run according to the TV schedule.

travis33
10-04-05, 09:57 AM
Slightly OT, and I apologize if this has alreadt been posted.

I've heard that there will be three test markets for Verizon fiber optic in NH. Salem, Derry, and Bedford will be the first three towns to get it. Depending on the success rate of these towns, the other markets where the cable has already been laid (Nashua) will be opened up.

L Supreme
10-04-05, 10:13 AM
I doubt that Comcast would pre-empt both InHD-1 and InHD-2 at the same time. Obviously, the time has come for an additional Comcast special events HD channel if they will not be giving OLN its own channel. For example, they could establish 883 and use that to host Sox, Bruins, Celtics and OLN, and then only use 882 when there is a conflict.

Mickey


looks like no new channels & OLN HD will be on 881 after all. Guess my theory was correct

PooperScooper
10-04-05, 11:44 AM
I sort of answered this already, but yes, component is inferior to HDMI/DVI. HDMI and DVI are digital connections. Component is analog. While they both carry HD content, they aren't equal.

HDMI/DVI = digital source > carried through a digital cable > ending at a digital display
Component = digital source > carried through an analog cable > ending at a digital display

Using component introduces noise into the picture due to the extra conversion that takes place. Honestly, though, the degradation isn't as big as you might assume. It's mostly only noticable on large displays, and the "noise" is mostly only noticable on still images, menu screens, etc. There's no theoretical or fundamental reason at all for component output to look any different that HDMI/DVI. If it does it just means you have some hardware on either end of the cables that does a bad/poor job and A/D or D/A. But, the biggest problem is usually cables and/or connectors not maintaining 75 ohms that can degrade the analog signal somewhat. And like ScoopsHD say, some TVs are analog. :)

larry

xbigjoe
10-04-05, 08:35 PM
Finally ADS channels 4,5,7,13 all locals are digital woohoo. Saugus and Peabody are confirmed. :D

hammersfd
10-04-05, 10:47 PM
ADS Locals here in Lynn as well. Looks great!! Can't wait for the rest!!

MickeyGee
10-05-05, 09:24 AM
looks like no new channels & OLN HD will be on 881 after all. Guess my theory was correct
Yes, you were correct about that. So it looks like Comcast will be using 881 and 882 as HD special events channels. The downside to that decision is that it eliminates InHD's prime time lineup on a fairly regular basis.

Mickey

YesJim
10-05-05, 09:39 AM
Yes, you were correct about that. So it looks like Comcast will be using 881 and 882 as HD special events channels. The downside to that decision is that it eliminates InHD's prime time lineup on a fairly regular basis.

Mickey

And the loss of that programming during prime time will be annoying mostly to new HD subscribers because for the most part it's the same stuff that's been broadcast over and over.

MickeyGee
10-05-05, 10:36 AM
And the loss of that programming during prime time will be annoying mostly to new HD subscribers because for the most part it's the same stuff that's been broadcast over and over.
I agree with that. On the other hand, we have not seen the NFL Network's "Game of the Week" in HD yet this year. Last year Comcast broadcast that on channel 882 when 882 was available. The larger point here is that 881 and 882 may not be able to handle the many different HD events that might be coming at the same time: OLN, NFL-GOTW, Bruins, Celtics, etc.

Mickey

nuzzy
10-05-05, 11:02 AM
My father just got a plasma and upgraded to the Moto 6200 HD receiver from his digital box. The one he received has a DVI connector. Does anyone know if they have newer versions with HDMI? Comcast was saying 'no', but I'm not sure I trust their CSR.

L Supreme
10-05-05, 11:05 AM
My father just got a plasma and upgraded to the Moto 6200 HD receiver from his digital box. The one he received has a DVI connector. Does anyone know if they have newer versions with HDMI? Comcast was saying 'no', but I'm not sure I trust their CSR.

only the 6412/3412 dvrs have an hdmi output. as of now the hd only boxes have dvi outputs.

Tsunamii
10-05-05, 12:30 PM
Nuzzy, you can always buy a hdmi to dvi connector...

number9
10-05-05, 01:03 PM
For any LOST fans on here..
I just noticed WCVB has chosen to pick ESPN's broadcast of the Red Sox playoff game tonight, and is bumping LOST. Their programming guid shows WCVB re-broadcasting LOST at 11:35 but not doing it in HD on WCVB-DT

I have already written them about this and hope it's a programming guide error. I don't have access to my cable box so I can't check if the onscreen guide shows something else.

I intended to watch the Sox and DVR LOST ...... but I want it in HD!

toots
10-05-05, 01:30 PM
According to my TiVo guide there's supposed to be a rebroadcast on Saturday... is this true?

And for those of us in Cow Hampshire, does anyone know if the WMUR broadcast is going to be similarly screwed (since they're owned by the same people who own WCVB)?

Not that Comcast gives me WMUR in HD, but at least I could watch the show at the regular time...

chitchatjf
10-05-05, 01:31 PM
Yes, you were correct about that. So it looks like Comcast will be using 881 and 882 as HD special events channels. The downside to that decision is that it eliminates InHD's prime time lineup on a fairly regular basis.

Mickey

I thought OLN was showing its programming ON INHd1.

L Supreme
10-05-05, 01:33 PM
I thought OLN was showing its programming ON INHd1.


OLN will be on InHD1 881
NESN Bruins home games will be on InHD2 882

05tsx
10-05-05, 02:47 PM
I'm planning on going over to my local comcast office and seeing if they have the Phase III hdmi interface versions of the 6412. Should I expect to get DD5.1 out of my TV optical output by going to HDMI (instead of DVI right now, which is just video)? I currently have the optical out from the 6412 going straight to the receiver, but I can see in the future where a receiver with hdmi switching could have just the single cable (and save an optical input for another device). Also, I don't know if it would hurt/help, but sometimes there is a slight audio shift with the picture, and I thought getting the audio from the TV might be better.

Also, I heard that the Phase III 6412 does better for cooling. Any confirmation on that? I need to work on venting my current box...it will hang up for a 5-10 seconds every so often.

Michael




1. 6412 "Phase III". Most areas should have them by now; if you say you want HDMI, they should know what you're talking about. Only way to know is to go to your local office, as they can't give you availability info over the phone.

2. HDMI and DVI are the same digital signal. The only advantage that HDMI has is that it carries audio as well. Both are better than component, but not by a huge amount. However, these boxes have a MUCH improved analog tuner. The older 6412s make SD content look terrible; using a Phase III, it looks almost as good as if you were hooking your cable directly from the wall to the TV (which is what a lot of people do).

You make it sound as if Verizon techs are the only ones who do this. The only time I had an issue with Verizon, the tech actually called me to make sure I would be around - I told him I wouldn't be there in the morning, so he flipped his schedule around so he could come back later and help me out.

But really, comparing Verizon service to Comcast service, on the whole, is really like comparing the lesser of two evils. Which is actually the lesser, I don't know.

Jsoto
10-05-05, 02:55 PM
Hello

I'm new to this forum and looking to buy a plasma ED or HD to watch above all, the Bruins. My current Sony TV is great but watching the Sox the past 2 years on NESN and now the Bruins preseason, I know I'm missing out...anyways, i've narrowed my decision to Panasonics industrial models around $1400 online and BJ's Phillips around $2499....I'm going with the industrials since I have a receiver and speakers. Anyone ever buy online? I'm so hesistant but places like TigerDirect and PC Connection seem to be reputable places...thanks in advance.

Buerhle is going to get shelled tonight....

dozens
10-05-05, 02:57 PM
OLN will be on InHD1 881
NESN Bruins home games will be on InHD2 882

Tonight we should see the Bruins in HD on 882 and OLN national game (PHI vs NYR) in HD on 881, right ?

dozens
10-05-05, 02:58 PM
For any LOST fans on here..
I just noticed WCVB has chosen to pick ESPN's broadcast of the Red Sox playoff game tonight, and is bumping LOST. Their programming guid shows WCVB re-broadcasting LOST at 11:35 but not doing it in HD on WCVB-DT

I have already written them about this and hope it's a programming guide error. I don't have access to my cable box so I can't check if the onscreen guide shows something else.

I intended to watch the Sox and DVR LOST ...... but I want it in HD!

What a joke ! I want to see Lost in HD ! Can someone post the phone and/or email of WCVB so I can complain as well.

dozens
10-05-05, 03:02 PM
And for those of us in Cow Hampshire, does anyone know if the WMUR broadcast is going to be similarly screwed (since they're owned by the same people who own WCVB)?

Not that Comcast gives me WMUR in HD, but at least I could watch the show at the regular time...

C'mon toots when is the last time you saw a cow in NH :) I didn't know the same people who own WCVB also own WMUR, I was going to threaten WCVB by telling them I would stop watching Lost on their channel and switch to WMUR...oh well.

I am pretty sure WMUR broadcasts in HD I just don't have a way to record it. I wonder if Comcast would ever add WMUR to its HD lineup.

jaydee353
10-05-05, 03:03 PM
NESN now has a Bruins HD schedule at
http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/bruins/

Some notes:
Sat's game @ Pitt is still in my guide as being on 882 in HD but it is not marked as HD on their webpage.

0 Road games in HD in 2006, However I think those will be added later.

dozens
10-05-05, 03:21 PM
For any LOST fans on here..
I just noticed WCVB has chosen to pick ESPN's broadcast of the Red Sox playoff game tonight, and is bumping LOST. Their programming guid shows WCVB re-broadcasting LOST at 11:35 but not doing it in HD on WCVB-DT

I have already written them about this and hope it's a programming guide error. I don't have access to my cable box so I can't check if the onscreen guide shows something else.

I intended to watch the Sox and DVR LOST ...... but I want it in HD!

A follow up question. Will the Sox be in HD on channel 5 ? Will the ESPN broadcast still be able ?

MickeyGee
10-05-05, 04:04 PM
I'm planning on going over to my local comcast office and seeing if they have the Phase III hdmi interface versions of the 6412...
Right now, Comcast is saying that they don't have the boxes at the local offices. You need to call and schedule a truck roll.

Mickey

grampy
10-05-05, 04:43 PM
A follow up question. Will the Sox be in HD on channel 5 ? Will the ESPN broadcast still be able ?
If its like yesterday's broadcast, the game was in HD on ESPN 849, but 805 was a SD broadcast.

whitecity
10-05-05, 05:31 PM
I'm showing Lost airing on Sat. night on 805 WCVB-HD. My series recording automatically picked up the show. I trust the taping on Sat. night than I would with something after a sporting event which can interfere with the proper timing.

Also, my guide data is not showing Lost at all tonight on either 805 or 5, only TBA at 10pm.

Bobdinski
10-05-05, 11:05 PM
Hello

I'm new to this forum and looking to buy a plasma ED or HD to watch above all, the Bruins. My current Sony TV is great but watching the Sox the past 2 years on NESN and now the Bruins preseason, I know I'm missing out...anyways, i've narrowed my decision to Panasonics industrial models around $1400 online and BJ's Phillips around $2499....I'm going with the industrials since I have a receiver and speakers. Anyone ever buy online? I'm so hesistant but places like TigerDirect and PC Connection seem to be reputable places...thanks in advance.

Buerhle is going to get shelled tonight....

I'm not sure if this is a good thread for this type of question but i'll give you some quick advice:

Buy from a company that is experienced in the shipping biz since glass can get ruined in the shipping process. A plasma from Dell would be a good valued (panel quality + service) online purchase IMO. Only problem buying online is if you get a dead pixel it is a pain to ship the unit back rather then just driving to a local store, and dead pixels can

There are some good deals to be had for panels in old fashioned brick and mortar retail. I bought a 27 inch Olevia from CompUsa for $700 about 6 months ago... pretty much the same as the cheaper online outlets.

L Supreme
10-06-05, 01:24 AM
Right now, Comcast is saying that they don't have the boxes at the local offices. You need to call and schedule a truck roll.

Mickey


you can pickup dvrs at the local offices now, the supplies have been replenished.

jadziedzic
10-06-05, 08:11 AM
Hello

I'm new to this forum and looking to buy a plasma ED or HD to watch above all, the Bruins. My current Sony TV is great but watching the Sox the past 2 years on NESN and now the Bruins preseason, I know I'm missing out...anyways, i've narrowed my decision to Panasonics industrial models around $1400 online and BJ's Phillips around $2499....I'm going with the industrials since I have a receiver and speakers. Anyone ever buy online? I'm so hesistant but places like TigerDirect and PC Connection seem to be reputable places...thanks in advance.


You may wish to check out the forum sponsors aka the "Forum Alliance Members" listed at the top of the page if you're considering a mail-order purchase. I purchased a Panasonic TH-50PHD6UY plasma from Visual Apex about 18 months ago, and had no complaints with VA or the delivery process. Check out the flat screen section of AVS forum for specific recommendations and experiences with other vendors such as Plasma Concepts and TV Authority. In general most folks have a positive experience with these vendors.

Tony

travis33
10-06-05, 08:50 AM
Hi, I've got a few question and would be greatful if any could answer any of them:

1. If I use component, will I still notice the upgrade in SD quality with the phase III?

2. I saw a post on the last page about the phase II box freezing was due to overheating. Is this correct (or somewhat responsible)? Does the phase III have a better cooling system where this doesn't occur as much?

3. Do I need to bring back my free component cables (and remote) I got with the phase II box in order to switch it for a phase III box?

4. Does the Nashua office have the 6412 III for available for an pickup? I was thinking of going tonight after work.

5. Will PIP ever be activated?

6. Is there a way to program a 20 second skip? Maybe a combo of (30 second) + (-10 second replay)?

Thanks in advance.

stevehof
10-06-05, 10:25 AM
I'm new to this forum and looking to buy a plasma ED or HD to watch above all, the Bruins. My current Sony TV is great but watching the Sox the past 2 years on NESN and now the Bruins preseason, I know I'm missing out...anyways, i've narrowed my decision to Panasonics industrial models around $1400 online and BJ's Phillips around $2499....I'm going with the industrials since I have a receiver and speakers. Anyone ever buy online? I'm so hesistant but places like TigerDirect and PC Connection seem to be reputable places...thanks in advance.
I bought my Panasonic industrial plasma monitor from Plasma Concepts www.plasmaconcepts.com, and had an excellent buying experience. Their price was a couple hundred cheaper than elsewhere, and they were very professional on the phone. They are a bona fide Panasonic industrial dealer. (No gray market stuff.) And they don't do any of the bait-and-switch crap that some online shops do. The shipping wasn't cheap ($200), but the company they used was great. It specializes in handling large delicate items. (The driver told me he delivers about six plasmas a day.) The truck even showed up 10 minutes ahead of the scheduled delivery time. By the way, Panasonic packs the monitors really well, with a full double box. (Whatever you do, don't throw away the box! You will definitely want it if you ever move.)

I was leery about spending such big bucks on an online transaction, but everything worked out fine. Of course, your mileage may vary...

Jsoto
10-06-05, 03:55 PM
Stevehof / jadziedzic - thanks for your replies. I'm gonna check out more places both online and local northshore areas...

flemo123
10-06-05, 09:31 PM
Does anyone have a list of the QAM channel line up on ComCast? It may already be on this thread somewhere but I haven't managed to find it.

bocmir
10-07-05, 12:01 AM
Has anyone else noticed the big On Demand "button" they added on to the info/flip bar? It only shows up for On Demand channels. It's quite an eyesore.

chitchatjf
10-07-05, 01:00 AM
Has anyone else noticed the big On Demand "button" they added on to the info/flip bar? It only shows up for On Demand channels. It's quite an eyesore.

I was under the impression that it meant that THAT program was available ondemand. for ecxample tune to HBO in the middle of a movie and be able to watch it from the beginning.

I also noticed that I cannot seem toi get the Encore on demand films to start.

Encore si part of Digital plys and I get that tier as part of my digital platinum

L Supreme
10-07-05, 06:54 AM
I was under the impression that it meant that THAT program was available ondemand. for ecxample tune to HBO in the middle of a movie and be able to watch it from the beginning.

I also noticed that I cannot seem toi get the Encore on demand films to start.

Encore si part of Digital plys and I get that tier as part of my digital platinum


No, it just means that the channel has content available on On-Demand. Call to get a hit sent to your box or wait until mid november for it to begin working on its own, your choice.

scorpion74
10-07-05, 11:14 AM
I am in boston with DVR 6412

For last 3 days in row the DVR hangs at 4:20 :D am in the morning.
I can't do anything not a single button works on the box.

I have to disconnect the power cable and then connect again.

Anybody else having this issue :confused:

I am going on vacation in a week :mad:

YesJim
10-07-05, 11:51 AM
I am in boston with DVR 6412

For last 3 days in row the DVR hangs at 4:20 :D am in the morning.
I can't do anything not a single button works on the box.

I have to disconnect the power cable and then connect again.

Anybody else having this issue :confused:

I am going on vacation in a week :mad:

Lots of folks with these boxes are having the same thing. Check out the Comcast DVR Forum here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986&goto=newpost

onkyoguy
10-07-05, 12:24 PM
Lots of folks with these boxes are having the same thing. Check out the Comcast DVR Forum here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986&goto=newpost



4:20 :D :eek:

Maybe someone at Motorola was trippin'....

aldujaparov
10-07-05, 05:50 PM
out here in western Mass, SD. Seems like an attempt to "persuade" the cable co's to pony up for the duece.

Manhar
10-08-05, 05:55 AM
I have a Sony 60XS TV with a cable card, which does not allow access to the program guide or On-Demand. While recently upgrading to standard cable with digital classic, I was told I'd get the program guide if I also rented the box since, unlike the cable card, it enables two-way communication with Comcast. I am new to this and was wondering if there is more than one cable box to consider and if so what everyone recommends.

Does a Comcast DVR double as the "box" and DVR? If so, what equipment would the Knowledgables on this forum recommend? And how would that compare to TiVo? Perhaps someone can point me to a source of info?

One other thing, with the "box" being able to "two-way communicate" between my set and Comcast, could they know what I watch at any time? I should hate to be in a big brother situation or a Nielsen Rating guinea pig!??

Many thanks for any input you are able to give! ;)

Manhar :)

chitchatjf
10-08-05, 08:58 AM
The DVR doubles as the box. Although ti currently does not have all the software capacities of Tivo,it does allow you to record 2 shows including 2 HD programs at the same time.

They have no idea what you are watching program wise. They can see what ondemand programs you watch but only for billing purposes and /or to see what programs are being ordered.

Personally i wouldn't mind being a Ratings guinea pig. :)

JDLIVE
10-08-05, 10:04 AM
They have no idea what you are watching program wise.

They may not track it, but they certainly could if they wanted to.

Gabatta
10-08-05, 03:46 PM
out here in western Mass, SD. Seems like an attempt to "persuade" the cable co's to pony up for the duece.

I agree, this is certainly what it was. It just proves that ESPN is greedy and cares more about world domination than providian quality service to the viewers without whom they would be nothing.

deskjockey
10-09-05, 12:36 PM
Gee. World domination from a company owned by a mouse, who woulda thunk??? :)

mgpt6
10-10-05, 01:13 PM
Nothing now on either new HD or ADS adds in Bristol County. Only Logo on 281. Any news of either new HD , or ADS adds. Hope that wgbh analog gets ADS soon, PQ is rather lousy right now.

dozens
10-10-05, 01:16 PM
Gee. World domination from a company owned by a mouse, who woulda thunk??? :)

Did Comtastic make an offer to buy the mouse ? Sounds like Comtastic is after universe domination :)

davatar
10-10-05, 03:56 PM
Is it just me or do these Comcast HD feeds _suck_? I mean they've taken what was supposed to be full-channel bandwidth stream and cut them into half bitrate. I was watching PBS-HD yesterday and everytime there was movement it was just all macro-blocks. UGH. I think I'm going to have to put the antenna back up.

JWhip
10-10-05, 04:02 PM
davatar, sounds like your PBS affiliate is multicasting. It may not be better OTA if it is.

toots
10-10-05, 04:18 PM
Actually, I've been watching the HD Comcast feeds on the locals, as recorded on my EyeTV-500.

The bitrates are exactly what you'd expect them to be, and with the exception of Fox, there's absolutely no evidence that any of them have been cut in half. And, in the case of Fox, I'm betting it's the affiliate or network that's responsible for the low bitrate, and not Comcast.

And, FWIW, WGBH does multicast.

davatar
10-10-05, 05:27 PM
They are putting PBS-HD and FOXHD on the same channel. Unless they figured out how to mysteriously fit more bandwidth on an NTSC/ATSC channel, they are half rate. Just like all the other OTA channels they carry.

D_Doherty
10-10-05, 05:45 PM
I believe that 2 HD channels can be in one cable channel using QAM without losing quality.

I think the problem is with WGBH-DT. They are broadcasting one 1080i and one 480i programming in the same channel (19).

JWhip
10-10-05, 05:59 PM
Sorry davatar, but D_Doherty has it right. YOu can fit two full HD channels into a Qam stream with NO loss in PQ. The problem rests with the fact that WGBH-DT is multicasting which robs their main HD channel of the bandwidth it needs to deliver a quality HD picture.

macd23
10-10-05, 06:34 PM
I'm a proud new member of Bristol county, which means retardedly, I'm in the providence DMA and retardedly, I don't get UPN HD at all and instead of Boston's NBC (WHDH-HD) on channel 807 I get Providence's NBC (WJAR-HD) on channel 810.

My question is two-fold:

how does the differing NBC affect me -if at all?, and also will future HD additions differ for MA Comcast customers vs Bristol County Comcast customers? Avic?

xbigjoe
10-10-05, 07:02 PM
Espn & Abc = Disney. Comcast has no part of the company

macd23
10-10-05, 07:41 PM
pleasant surprise to see tonights Bruins-Lightning road game in HD on INHD2....................Anyone know which road games NESN plans to air in HD this season?

bocmir
10-10-05, 07:46 PM
pleasant surprise to see tonights Bruins-Lightning road game in HD on INHD2....................Anyone know which road games NESN plans to air in HD this season?There's a list here. (http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/bruins/) Most road games will now be HD, looks like.

Speaking of the Bruins game on INHD2, is anyone else getting random audio dropouts every couple of minutes? They last no more than a second. The problem looks like it's in the feed, and not with my equipment - normally if the audio was really "dropping out", my receiver would show that there was no signal, but that's not happening.

macd23
10-10-05, 07:54 PM
Yeah the picture looks excellent, the sound is awful....dropouts every minute or so

macd23
10-10-05, 07:58 PM
There's a list here. (http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/bruins/) Most road games will now be HD, looks like.

Speaking of the Bruins game on INHD2, is anyone else getting random audio dropouts every couple of minutes? They last no more than a second. The problem looks like it's in the feed, and not with my equipment - normally if the audio was really "dropping out", my receiver would show that there was no signal, but that's not happening.



Its great to see any road games, as its a major step forward, but its curious to notice that the road games in HD are the first half of the season only....then its just home games.

davatar
10-10-05, 10:24 PM
Sorry davatar, but D_Doherty has it right. YOu can fit two full HD channels into a Qam stream with NO loss in PQ. The problem rests with the fact that WGBH-DT is multicasting which robs their main HD channel of the bandwidth it needs to deliver a quality HD picture.
So what is the channel bandwidth with QAM encoding? This is the first I have heard that it is different.

roachxp
10-10-05, 11:17 PM
Its great to see any road games, as its a major step forward, but its curious to notice that the road games in HD are the first half of the season only....then its just home games.

Yup the Redsox take over in Spring training.

http://www.roachxp.com/Bruins%20Oct.JPG

toots
10-11-05, 02:05 AM
So what is the channel bandwidth with QAM encoding? This is the first I have heard that it is different.

38.4 Mbps, or exactly twice what you get with 8VSB (OTA). Taking advantage of the potential of cable being higher signal/lower noise than OTA.

progers1000
10-11-05, 08:21 AM
There's a list here. (http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/programming/schedules/bruins/) Most road games will now be HD, looks like.

Speaking of the Bruins game on INHD2, is anyone else getting random audio dropouts every couple of minutes? They last no more than a second. The problem looks like it's in the feed, and not with my equipment - normally if the audio was really "dropping out", my receiver would show that there was no signal, but that's not happening.

I was getting that last night as well.

Also does anyone else have problems with TNT in HD?

progers1000
10-11-05, 08:28 AM
I still have 9.15 and happened to tune into Twister....it was completely unwatchable.

Did you TNT issue ever get resolved? I just got my HDTV over the weekend and I can't watch TNT because it so bad.

bbobbo
10-11-05, 10:57 PM
from this thread on 12/27/2004:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=4873731&&#post4873731

If you have a QAM tuner, you can pick up the unencrypted Comcast HD channels.

The "Digital upgrade" will not affect any other part of your service. I have separate HD, Digital and analogs connected, for example. Everything is available on the pipe. The cable box or the TV's converter does the work.

Mickey

is this still true? i have a myhd mdp-130 which can tune qam, and i only have a basic analog subscription. i tried plugging the cable into the mdp-130, but i wasn't able to pick up any of the local hd channels. are they still unencrypted? is anyone else using the mdp-130 with comcast cable?

edit:
never mind. i went down to the basement to check the connection--i have five outlets but my splitter only has four outputs...the one that was unconnected was the one i was trying. i hooked it up, and it works fine. no more ota breakups!

bbobbo
10-11-05, 11:45 PM
well, i found the hd channels on 8x-x, but it isn't the solid reception i thought it would be. it was looking pretty good before, but now i'm getting a lot of breakups and sometimes not even a picture. is this normal?

toots
10-12-05, 02:23 AM
Using an EyeTV-500 to tune the unencrypted channels on Comcast, I get a pretty solid/stable signal on just about everything but WHDH, but that was only after chasing down a ground loop that was causing glitches/breakups every 30 seconds or so.

bbobbo
10-12-05, 02:40 AM
Using an EyeTV-500 to tune the unencrypted channels on Comcast, I get a pretty solid/stable signal on just about everything but WHDH, but that was only after chasing down a ground loop that was causing glitches/breakups every 30 seconds or so.
i think the problem might be the cable. it's some cheap rg-59 that i picked up at the local hardware store. the reception seemed to change if i played around with the positioning of the cable, although now i've lost it completely. the guy at the hardware store manhandled the cable when he was trying to unspool it...i wonder if he damaged it somehow. i guess i'll have to get some shielded rg-6.

new2hometheater
10-12-05, 06:46 AM
Signal Quality is king:

I've solved more issues with Comcast ever since I had them run a new wire to the house and rewire my entire set up with High frequency shielded RG6. The old RG59 that was run from the street to my house and throughout the inside didn't cut it. The set up also had too many splits and unterminated drops. If you have a unconnected cable connection in your set up, it is like an antenna gathering noise.

Check the quality of the wiring, check the cable crimp connections and plan the miniminum of splits and connections. I ran the wire myself and then hired the Comcast tech on the side to come in an crimp the wires and test the signal strength at each drop.

dozens
10-12-05, 08:58 AM
Does anyone know if the dct 700 are in the field ? If so, are they cheaper to rent then standard digital box ?

L Supreme
10-12-05, 09:00 AM
Does anyone know if the dct 700 are in the field ? If so, are they cheaper to rent then standard digital box ?

as of now, they are the same price as regular digital boxes.

chitchatjf
10-12-05, 09:50 AM
as of now, they are the same price as regular digital boxes.

The SAME price? That is a ripoff,as the COSTS of purchasing them are around $40 Canadian.

dozens
10-12-05, 10:01 AM
as of now, they are the same price as regular digital boxes.

Am I allowed to put one that I own on Comcast's network, like the dcp 501 ?

L Supreme
10-12-05, 10:30 AM
Am I allowed to put one that I own on Comcast's network, like the dcp 501 ?

To be honest, i don't know. I've never encountered anyone that owns one of these boxes, but I doubt you would be able to use it or I'd see more of them.

ScoopsHD
10-12-05, 10:38 AM
Am I allowed to put one that I own on Comcast's network, like the dcp 501 ?

I believe you are allowed to have your own box. So long as its LEGALLY purchased from an authorized reseller/retailer. Ebay boxes are iffy as many times those boxes are stolen from other systems.

If you know of an authorized Motorola retailer selling them, then yes I believe you can. The DCP-501 was never released by cable companies, it was a direct retail test thing they did down South I believe, but it was sold retail.

toots
10-12-05, 01:59 PM
Signal Quality is king:

I've solved more issues with Comcast ever since I had them run a new wire to the house and rewire my entire set up with High frequency shielded RG6. The old RG59 that was run from the street to my house and throughout the inside didn't cut it. The set up also had too many splits and unterminated drops. If you have a unconnected cable connection in your set up, it is like an antenna gathering noise.

Check the quality of the wiring, check the cable crimp connections and plan the miniminum of splits and connections. I ran the wire myself and then hired the Comcast tech on the side to come in an crimp the wires and test the signal strength at each drop.

Definitely RG6. The HD channels tend to be on the higher end of the spectrum, which makes them particularly sensitive to cable loss, and RG-59 is just awful darn lossy near 1 GHz.

And, yeah, check the quality of the cabling. I had RG-6 from the wall to the DCT-5100 with one Comcast supplied splitter in the chain in my bedroom, but I wasn't getting Showtime HD very well. The cable guy came out and replaced the RG-6, put new connectors on the wall jack and replaced the splitter, and according to the diagnostic screen on the DCT, we picked up 8db on Showtime HD, just by replacing the wiring and connectors.

stephenju
10-12-05, 09:05 PM
Comcast is showing NFL Network Game of the Week on 882 now. It's Pats @ Falcons. Nice.

MickeyGee
10-13-05, 08:28 AM
Comcast is showing NFL Network Game of the Week on 882 now. It's Pats @ Falcons. Nice.
I caught some of this too. Watching Brady's long pass to Johnson in HD is a thing of beauty. The ball, in slow motion, hung in the air forever. And then the NFL Films microphone overheard Brady telling Troy Brown "I didn't even see him!". Great stuff. Tonight 882 is carrying Bruins vs. Panthers.

Mickey

YesJim
10-13-05, 07:20 PM
Anyone else getting the "channel will be available shortly" message on 882?

Gabatta
10-13-05, 08:20 PM
Anyone else getting the "channel will be available shortly" message on 882?

The Bruins game is on as scheduled in Boston.

chitchatjf
10-13-05, 08:56 PM
changing the subject a bit,has anyone checked out the "new" full size TV Guide?

the all color national grids that pass for listings are IMHO a flop.

We may be online AND have TV guide interactive but?

IndieRockSteve
10-14-05, 12:03 AM
Is it just me or was Alias only broadcast in 2.0 tonight?

kenvt
10-14-05, 07:45 AM
changing the subject a bit,has anyone checked out the "new" full size TV Guide?

the all color national grids that pass for listings are IMHO a flop.

We may be online AND have TV guide interactive but?


I think you are witnessing the death rattle of TV guide. A TV listings magazine in the day of on screen digital guides is a dinosaur.

I did however enjoy the articles, especially the one about Lost with some interesting clues.

-Ken

IndieRockSteve
10-14-05, 11:00 AM
I think you are witnessing the death rattle of TV guide. A TV listings magazine in the day of on screen digital guides is a dinosaur.

I did however enjoy the articles, especially the one about Lost with some interesting clues.

-Ken

indeed, the only thing TV Guide has left are its articles. If they cut down their size to include just those first few pages they'd save a lot of money and I think most people would still subscribe. I know the only reason I get it is because of the season previews and random articles on shows I like.

ehanson555
10-14-05, 11:53 AM
Does anyone have info on FSN-NE's plans for the Celtics this season? I know that most, if not all, home games will be in HD, but what about any road games? If they do broadcast Celtics, what channel will they be on if they conflict with the NESN Bruins' HD broadcast? Most of the Bruins' road games are in HD this year which is awesome, but I am hoping for something similar with the Celtics. I don't know how Comcast is going to broadcast when there is a conflict due to both playing the same night (Celtics home, Bruins away).

IndieRockSteve
10-14-05, 12:07 PM
why can't both be in HD?

also, anyone know what channels don't get sent over the firewire outputs of the cable box's?

YesJim
10-14-05, 12:16 PM
Anyone else getting the "channel will be available shortly" message on 882?

After speaking with support last night and being told the problem was with my box (channels 882 and 833 aren't available and the tech said there were no problems he was aware of), I stopped by my local Comcast office to be told that they are aware of a head-end issue for the Plymouth County area.

As of now, the main support center is still unaware that there's a problem down here - so sit tight and let's hope that they get things fixed soon. We're working on 18 hours at this point.

Avic/L Supreme - any calls to techs in this area to expedite would be appreciated...

ScoopsHD
10-14-05, 12:25 PM
why can't both be in HD?

also, anyone know what channels don't get sent over the firewire outputs of the cable box's?

The only channels sent clear over Firewire are those that are unencrypted on the system. If the service is encrypted (99% of the services) you need to have a 5C compliant firewire device to be able to see that encrypted stream.

coleca
10-14-05, 12:45 PM
I had the same problem with 833 and 882 in North Attleboro (Bristol County). It gets better w/my Motorola cable amp, but still pixelates a little bit. I had a tech out yesterday and he said that the problem was my box, but I didn't want him to swap it out because I'd lose everything on the DVR. Besides the box he was giving me was used and looked like it had been through WWII.

He told me the problem was the amp and that it had "fried" the box. Funny how it gets no picture on 882 and 833 without the amp and gets a picture and changes channels much faster w/the amp. My neighbors have the same problem w/882 and 833, but they still say it's my box that's the problem.

IndieRockSteve
10-14-05, 12:58 PM
The only channels sent clear over Firewire are those that are unencrypted on the system. If the service is encrypted (99% of the services) you need to have a 5C compliant firewire device to be able to see that encrypted stream.

so, basically the OTA channels? none of the digital cable channels will be available over firewire?

ScoopsHD
10-14-05, 08:47 PM
so, basically the OTA channels? none of the digital cable channels will be available over firewire?

Correct, unless you havea 5C compliant firewire device (currently Mitsubishi TVs, Panasonic DVHS and the Mitsu DVHS).

chitchatjf
10-14-05, 10:37 PM
The magazine part is pretty cool. The full size is LONG overdue.

The comcast NE digital listed 118 channels.

The new is lucky to have 68.and only grids.

I personally liked listings. I was able to get two years at a giveaway price averaging 15 cents an issue (and that was the cost OVER 50 years ago!)

flemo123
10-16-05, 09:40 PM
Watching the Sox NESN games on the INHD channels was some of the best quality HD coverage I have seen from ComCast. However the post season HD picture from Fox does not seem to be as good PQ as the INHD feed.

Does anyone else see this? In general Fox seem to be broadcasting some kind of sub-standard HD. In fact none of the network channels seem to be quite as good as the specialized HD only channels.

new2hometheater
10-17-05, 06:41 AM
Does anyone else see this? In general Fox seem to be broadcasting some kind of sub-standard HD. In fact none of the network channels seem to be quite as good as the specialized HD only channels.[/QUOTE]

not all feeds are created equal. Fox sucks, CBS is better and NESN RedSox/Bruins/Celtics are the best

YesJim
10-17-05, 08:04 AM
Watching the Sox NESN games on the INHD channels was some of the best quality HD coverage I have seen from ComCast. However the post season HD picture from Fox does not seem to be as good PQ as the INHD feed.

Does anyone else see this? In general Fox seem to be broadcasting some kind of sub-standard HD. In fact none of the network channels seem to be quite as good as the specialized HD only channels.

If you look pretty far back in this thread there's a link explaining why Fox HD looks so crappy. According to the article their plan is to gradually increase their bitrate which will eventually get them to a par with the others. I'll believe when I see it.

Benji
10-17-05, 09:30 AM
Anyone else experiencing occassional freeze-ups with their DVR box? It's not a big problem but get's annoying at times. Once it un-freezes, it cycles through whatever buttons you pushed during the freeze-up.

dozens
10-17-05, 09:46 AM
Anyone else experiencing occassional freeze-ups with their DVR box? It's not a big problem but get's annoying at times. Once it un-freezes, it cycles through whatever buttons you pushed during the freeze-up.

It is a TV Guide software problem. I believe the theory is that iguide is downloading/processing guide data in a uniterruptable state and the IR commands are getting queue up. The only way to get it fixed is to call Comcast and complain. After enough calls they will probably turn around and tell Motorola to fix, who will then blame Tv Guide and who will eventually fix it.

Gabatta
10-17-05, 10:26 AM
Anything good coming from Comcast????????

- Update on Tivo interface?
- New DVR box on the horizon with expanded storage capacity?
- New HD channels?

Kessaby
10-17-05, 04:08 PM
Is anyone else having lip synch issues since the last software upgrade.
I especially see it on Fox and CBS. However, it's not all the time. most other HD Channels seems fine.
Just curious if it's just me. I have the 6412 pase II STB connected to a Samsung HLP series TV via DVI.

Thanks for any comments

Benji
10-17-05, 04:09 PM
It is a TV Guide software problem. I believe the theory is that iguide is downloading/processing guide data in a uniterruptable state and the IR commands are getting queue up. The only way to get it fixed is to call Comcast and complain. After enough calls they will probably turn around and tell Motorola to fix, who will then blame Tv Guide and who will eventually fix it.
In other words, just bite my tongue, and accept it.

YesJim
10-17-05, 06:46 PM
In other words, just bite my tongue, and accept it.

I don't think that's the EXACT nature of the response, it's just that you mentioned a REALLY common problem with the DVRs. If you go over to the DVR Forum you'll see entry after entry of others with the same issue. The sheer number of gripes should kick Comcast, Motorola, TV Guide, and whomever else is involved so they fix it. So far there has been nothing that has stopped it. I think they're trying but somebody is missing one detail or another.

The DVR link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986&goto=newpost

Defraggerman
10-17-05, 07:37 PM
Kessaby,I'm experiencing the same thing. Fox is particularly bad.I hope it clears up soon because it is very annoying.Also the 6412 freezing issue seems to be getting worse.It just seems to be the HD channels affected by the audio delay.

chitchatjf
10-17-05, 08:35 PM
I set my DVR to record tWO shows in HD

Neither got recorded :(

One of them got replayed Sunday night so I set it to record then and it was OK.

DaveFi
10-17-05, 09:48 PM
Hey jWhip, you still around? The knuckleheads over there are offering Lawrence of Arabia for free in HD OnDemand but are cropping it. Someone really needs to tell them that cropping a movie like this is sacrilege.

Unfortunately I don't know anyone in the programming dept. to get this information to.