Is it just me or is the SciFi channel getting worse and more overwhelmingly grainy?

The last couple of nights the strangest thing seems to be occurring. Watching Hi-Def channels I lose the audio during commercials! Now I am not sure I should complain but it is annoying. It happens on 804 805 etc. If I go to the analog equivalent this does not occur. During MNF last night when the broadcasters switched to the player introduction(when the players introduce themselves) there was not audio. Then Madden was clear a bell, well the audio was back, Madden on the other hand...
Any ideas?

Comcast people read these boards so I am sure they know about the complaints about the OAR issue. I do not know if they ordered it this way or if that is how it was supplied.

Comcast people read these boards so I am sure they know about the complaints about the OAR issue. I do not know if they ordered it this way or if that is how it was supplied.


they're listening?

ESPN2HD before World Cup 2006 starts!!
please!!!

Is anyone else having lip synch issues since the last software upgrade.
I especially see it on Fox and CBS. However, it's not all the time. most other HD Channels seems fine.
Just curious if it's just me. I have the 6412 pase II STB connected to a Samsung HLP series TV via DVI.

Thanks for any comments

Fox usually has lip-sync issues on Seinfeld reruns, though most of the HD content I see (only the OC lately) seems synched up.

Fox usually has lip-sync issues on Seinfeld reruns, though most of the HD content I see (only the OC lately) seems synched up.

I've noticed sync issues with Fox 25 news lately. As a recent convert to HD I'm really disappointed that even after some time in the market the providers still can't get their acts together.

Of course I don't know if the problem lies with Fox or with Comcast but this makes the shows unwatchable in HD as far as I'm concerned. I've even see some shows that fluctuate between good and bad sync during the show.

I've seen some threads calling for 1080P programming. Let's try to get these channels to broadcast decent HD in any format before shooting for the moon.

HD sets now seem to be coming down to a price that most can afford. Hopefully the added noise of complaints as new users come online will kick these folks into gear.

I've noticed sync issues with Fox 25 news lately. As a recent convert to HD I'm really disappointed that even after some time in the market the providers still can't get their acts together.

Of course I don't know if the problem lies with Fox or with Comcast but this makes the shows unwatchable in HD as far as I'm concerned. I've even see some shows that fluctuate between good and bad sync during the show.

I've seen some threads calling for 1080P programming. Let's try to get these channels to broadcast decent HD in any format before shooting for the moon.

HD sets now seem to be coming down to a price that most can afford. Hopefully the added noise of complaints as new users come online will kick these folks into gear.

Yes I have seen problems with their 10 o'clock news as well. I am willing to bet all their local programming is out of sync.

I've noticed sync issues with Fox 25 news lately. As a recent convert to HD I'm really disappointed that even after some time in the market the providers still can't get their acts together.

Well, Fox is a bit newer to the HD market than the others.

****DISREGARD! I'M A MORON! THE REMOTE WAS SET TO AUX!*****
:o

I don't know if this is the right forum to post this in, but I have the Moto 6412 DVR and I'm in Brighton. We lost cable yesterday, possibly because Comcast was doing an audit in our neighborhood. We got it back today after being prompted to disconnect our cable boxes for the cable feed and re-connect them.

Now on the DVR my pause, rewind, and fast forward buttons don't work. This is with live TV or with a recorded program.

Any ideas? I guess I should just unplug the box for a minute, but it's recording Lost and Law and Order right now.

I wanted to watch the Bruins tonight in HD in 882 and all I get is a black screen, anyone else having this problem?

I wanted to watch the Bruins tonight in HD in 882 and all I get is a black screen, anyone else having this problem?

I am not getting it either.

I am not getting it either.

Must be revolving head-end issues. It's on in Middleboro tonight but last week I lost a game or so with a similar problem.

Must be revolving head-end issues. It's on in Middleboro tonight but last week I lost a game or so with a similar problem.

I had the black screen as well, so I swapped tuners and put it on 51. All of a sudden (mid 1st period) my box did a reboot, and when it came back 882 was up and the game was on.

CBS-HD & FOX-HD

Just bought a tv w/a QAM tuner [Sony 30xs955]. I have extended basic cable. The QAM tuner picked up a bunch of digital channels (misc analog channels, music channels) including all the HD channels except CBS and Fox (87.1 & 87.2 on my qam tuner). I sometimes get them for a brief stretch, then the clip out.

I thought that Comcast was required to transmit these channels unencrypted. Any thoughts? (other than upgrading service)

I am in Bristol county, if that matters.

Is anyone else having problems with On-Demand. I have been getting a communications error for a few days now. I call CSR and they have tried to reset it twice. I have a service set up for Tuesday afternoon.

CBS-HD & FOX-HD

Just bought a tv w/a QAM tuner [Sony 30xs955]. I have extended basic cable. The QAM tuner picked up a bunch of digital channels (misc analog channels, music channels) including all the HD channels except CBS and Fox (87.1 & 87.2 on my qam tuner). I sometimes get them for a brief stretch, then the clip out.

I thought that Comcast was required to transmit these channels unencrypted. Any thoughts? (other than upgrading service)

I am in Bristol county, if that matters.

All broadcast ATSC feeds on the cable system are unencrypted and receivable with QAM tuners. Some possible causes are Loose RF connectors, cracked cable lines or poor RF shielding on your QAM TV tuner that could allow UHF channel 36 (WSBE) to interfer with cable channel 87. Their frequencies will overlap. If channels above or below have the same problem there may be an RF level problem on your line. Do you get WJAR-HD? If yes, what cable channel is it on?

Does anyone have info on FSN-NE's plans for the Celtics this season? I know that most, if not all, home games will be in HD, but what about any road games? If they do broadcast Celtics, what channel will they be on if they conflict with the NESN Bruins' HD broadcast? Most of the Bruins' road games are in HD this year which is awesome, but I am hoping for something similar with the Celtics. I don't know how Comcast is going to broadcast when there is a conflict due to both playing the same night (Celtics home, Bruins away).

Officially it looks like 41 home games only. Come on Rupert. Increase that production budget.

http://www.fsnnewengland.com/celtics.php

Yes double header on November 25th, both the Bruins-12pm and Celtics-730pm play at home the same day and both are in HD. :)

All broadcast ATSC feeds on the cable system are unencrypted and receivable with QAM tuners. Some possible causes are Loose RF connectors, cracked cable lines or poor RF shielding on your QAM TV tuner that could allow UHF channel 36 (WSBE) to interfer with cable channel 87. Their frequencies will overlap. If channels above or below have the same problem there may be an RF level problem on your line. Do you get WJAR-HD? If yes, what cable channel is it on?

Hey guys, I am new to this QAM stuff but on friday, I will be receiving my Phillips 42PF9630A which I believe has a QAM tuner. On this Sunday, most of you know that the Patriots will be playing on Sunday Night Football which is broadcasted on channel 5 on HD for us local, right?

Anyways, using the QAM tuner, how would I go about watching this in HDTV, that is if i can?

Another question is, can the QAM tuner work with the Comcast non-hdtv box still connected to it or does the philips have to be directly connected to the cable without a box?

All broadcast ATSC feeds on the cable system are unencrypted and receivable with QAM tuners. Some possible causes are Loose RF connectors, cracked cable lines or poor RF shielding on your QAM TV tuner that could allow UHF channel 36 (WSBE) to interfer with cable channel 87. Their frequencies will overlap. If channels above or below have the same problem there may be an RF level problem on your line. Do you get WJAR-HD? If yes, what cable channel is it on?


Thanks for the input. Last night (after the games) both channels were coming in better. I'll check all the connections tonight, that could definitely be it. In terms of WJAR - - I get one NBC station, but I am not sure whether its WJAR or the boston NBC (WHDH?) - - its on 86.1 or 86.2 based on my Sony's QAM tuner. Same deal on WSBE (not sure Boston vs Providence). Not the end of the world as I can get FOX on OTA, but it would be easier to get them through cable. Might get a better indoor antenna (WAF), as I probably should be able to get more HD OTA than Fox and UPN (both out of Providence).

Thanks again,

Hey guys, I am new to this QAM stuff but on friday, I will be receiving my Phillips 42PF9630A which I believe has a QAM tuner. On this Sunday, most of you know that the Patriots will be playing on Sunday Night Football which is broadcasted on channel 5 on HD for us local, right?

Anyways, using the QAM tuner, how would I go about watching this in HDTV, that is if i can?

Sunday Night Football is only broadcast in HD on ESPN-HD. I believe that channel is encrypted, so you will not be able to view it in HD with a QAM. Channel 5 does a simulcast of the SD broadcast, but not the HD broadcast.

Mickey

Sunday Night Football is only broadcast in HD on ESPN-HD. I believe that channel is encrypted, so you will not be able to view it in HD with a QAM. Channel 5 does a simulcast of the SD broadcast, but not the HD broadcast.

Mickey

damnit!... lol...

anyways i see people mentioning that they can watch celtics in HD with QAM with Comcast. Usually what channel is this on in the Boston Area. I'm also a big fan of the celtics too! :D

And another question (i'm filled with em), how much do HDTV boxes cost compared to the Standard ones and how much are the Cable Cards monthly?

I heard that cable cards have better reception than the boxes except for the fact that it's only in one-way. How's this hold up in Boston.

We will probably get more new HD channels on Comcast when WMFP-TV62 goes digital.Last ones I got were WLVI-DT and TNT-HD.

We will probably get more new HD channels on Comcast when WMFP-TV62 goes digital.Last ones I got were WLVI-DT and TNT-HD.

any idea when that goes up and what channels it will carry?

also i was checking to see if some of the hdtv channels worked (800+) and a few of them had some audio coming through but no video. is this because my box can't de-encode the hdtv video signal or is it because my current tv doesn't support hdtv.

damnit!... lol...

anyways i see people mentioning that they can watch celtics in HD with QAM with Comcast. Usually what channel is this on in the Boston Area. I'm also a big fan of the celtics too! :D

And another question (i'm filled with em), how much do HDTV boxes cost compared to the Standard ones and how much are the Cable Cards monthly?

I heard that cable cards have better reception than the boxes except for the fact that it's only in one-way. How's this hold up in Boston.


The Celtics are 882, but you need either a cable card or a box to get that station.

HD boxes are $3.20 more($8.25), but offices are out of stock & you would need to setup a vist, one time $16.95 charge.

About the reception it depends on your tv, the quality signal your getting in & if your area is done with ADS. To determine it your gonna have to try them to find out. IMO if you use the guide & VOD go with the box then if the PQ isn't up to your statisfaction get a cable card instead. Only downside is that way will take 2 visits.

I rarely even use the Program Guide and never order anything anyways so. Also after a couple emails to Comcast, I understand that the card is a free monthly charge with a one time 16.95 installation fee. Thats what we will probably end up getting.

About the some of the HD channels, channels like ESPN-HD require atleast the smallest digital package (classic i think). Since we have some of the international channels like 701, does that mean we should get ESPN-HD when we do end up getting a cable card.

Currently without an HDTV and with a regular box, we can hear the audio on some of the local HDTV channels (800+) but no video. However, for ESPN-HD we have no authorization. Will this change once we get a cable card or does this have nothing to do with it.

And L Supreme, how is the ADS, whatever that is, in your area. I live in Tyngsboro, right above Lowell, so we could quite possibly have ADS too right?

FYI: WGBH can officially BURN IN HELL for running two simultaneous bugs (their own and PBS-HD).

Bad enough they multicast and the PQ looks like crap, now they go and make it even more unwatchable.

Supreme,

still loking for full ADS here on the North Shore(Lynn, Saugus). We got 4, 5, 7, and 13 a few weeks ago, but we are still missing the majority of basic. Any ideas???????

thanks
chris

FYI: WGBH can officially BURN IN HELL for running two simultaneous bugs (their own and PBS-HD).

Bad enough they multicast and the PQ looks like crap, now they go and make it even more unwatchable.

Looks like crap? Dosen't look too bad to me.

The PBS Demo channel is separate from the regular WGBH. YThey have to have both the PBS HD channel and WGBH DT.

I do not like thew two bus either.

I rarely even use the Program Guide and never order anything anyways so. Also after a couple emails to Comcast, I understand that the card is a free monthly charge with a one time 16.95 installation fee. Thats what we will probably end up getting.

About the some of the HD channels, channels like ESPN-HD require atleast the smallest digital package (classic i think). Since we have some of the international channels like 701, does that mean we should get ESPN-HD when we do end up getting a cable card.

Currently without an HDTV and with a regular box, we can hear the audio on some of the local HDTV channels (800+) but no video. However, for ESPN-HD we have no authorization. Will this change once we get a cable card or does this have nothing to do with it.

And L Supreme, how is the ADS, whatever that is, in your area. I live in Tyngsboro, right above Lowell, so we could quite possibly have ADS too right?

Internation channels are a la carte itens and do not require any digital programming persay.

You do not need to get extended basic in order to get digital programming.

All non premium HD programming is considered part of Digital Classic (except HD locals,which is part of Basic broadcast service),and you do need to get that tier in order to get those channels.

Lawrence has had ADS for a month or so now.

Hi, I'm new here and have a few questions.

I just got a new HDTV this week and would like to get an HD set to box. Can I just go to my local office to return my digital box and pick one up? or do I need to schedule a visit?

Also, what is this ADS thing everyone is mentioning?

Thanks for any help.

Looks like crap? Dosen't look too bad to me.

The PBS Demo channel is separate from the regular WGBH. YThey have to have both the PBS HD channel and WGBH DT.

I do not like thew two bus either.Yes, it looks bad on anything in HD when there is even a bit of motion. Of course there isn't much HD to notice such things, since most of what they run is ED widescreen.

As far as the two bugs being just on the demo loop, this is not true anymore. They now run two bugs on all new PBS programming as well. Watch for it.

Supreme,

still loking for full ADS here on the North Shore(Lynn, Saugus). We got 4, 5, 7, and 13 a few weeks ago, but we are still missing the majority of basic. Any ideas???????

thanks
chris


Soon

Hi, I'm new here and have a few questions.

I just got a new HDTV this week and would like to get an HD set to box. Can I just go to my local office to return my digital box and pick one up? or do I need to schedule a visit?

Also, what is this ADS thing everyone is mentioning?

Thanks for any help.

Call comcast and ask. If they say no, you can make your appointment right there.

ADS stands for Analog digital simucast. All channels are now digital when you have a digital box.
The analog channels wil lremain for legacy purposes at least for the time being. It took FIVE YEARS for HBO to go from channel 60 to 301.

any idea when that goes up and what channels it will carry?

also i was checking to see if some of the hdtv channels worked (800+) and a few of them had some audio coming through but no video. is this because my box can't de-encode the hdtv video signal or is it because my current tv doesn't support hdtv.

Certainly your STB has to be able to accept HDTV digital signals and your TV must also be HDTV-capable (have an HD tuner). When I had a digital non-HD box and an SD analog TV I would also get the sound on an HDTV channel but no picture.

Rich N.

finally, full ADS herein Lynn+Saugus. looks great!!!!!!!!

ADS stands for Analog digital simucast. All channels are now digital when you have a digital box.

Old question: how would you know if your community has been upgraded? Has Belmont been upgraded yet? The non-HD channels all still look pretty cruddy on our 6412.

Right now the tv is directly connected to the wall, no box. The sd doesn't look that good, maybe my expectations were too high?, but maybe cuz I don't have a hd box or a cable card.

So if I did get a hd box and hook it with component cable, or if I got a cable card, would it improve the quality of these standard def channels? The HD channels, well the few I could find, were pretty good though.

Another question is just because a channel as an XX.#, does it mean that it is a HD channel or just a digital channel?

Right now the tv is directly connected to the wall, no box. The sd doesn't look that good, maybe my expectations were too high?, but maybe cuz I don't have a hd box or a cable card.

So if I did get a hd box and hook it with component cable, or if I got a cable card, would it improve the quality of these standard def channels? The HD channels, well the few I could find, were pretty good though.

Another question is just because a channel as an XX.#, does it mean that it is a HD channel or just a digital channel?

All digital channels are encrypted except for local broadcast (standard AND HD)

A cable card decryptes channels you are authorized to receive and maps them onto the same channel desination as a box.

I would get the box for the OnDemand access and of course the DVR!

I merged these posts into the wrong thread, so copied them here:

I tried a search addressing my question, and did not find a clear answer. I have Comcast internet, and Directv SD TV. I am getting the HD Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK. My wife is mainly interested in SD, except for sports- which we both want in HD, and I will from time to time, use a DVD and TV for movies. From an equipment standpoint- would you rather have the Comcast Motorola 6412- or the somewhat unknown HR20-250- or its relacement? (I am in Boston and will get local HD MPG4 by the end of the year.) From a programming standpoint, which offers more and or better HD content, Comcast or Ditectv? Which do you believe offers better quality HD on a consistent basis?From an equipment management standpoint, switching outputs, etc, which would you rather have- Comcast or Directv? I need to be careful in selecting equipment to make sure it is easy for my wife. I have Harmony remotes for that reason. Any advice you can offer would be appreciated, and I apologize if I missed answer in my search. What a great forum AVS is. For those who do not want to answer all my questions- a short question " If you lived in Boston, would you go Comcast or Directv" if cost of service and cost of equipment were not an issue, knowing MPG4 will be here soon . I do intend to wait 45 days to see what deals each are offering, so I will consider cost after I get the facts from all willing to help me decide. Thanks

Don't know much about the HR20-250, but DirTV is suppose to being going to mpeg4 sometime soon which should help with its YD offerings as you mentioned. That being said, their is no comparison in PQ between Comcast and DirTV--at least where I live (CO). The Comcast YD PQ is great--comparable to what you would get with OTT and an ATSC tuner. The DirTV looks much softer and lacks that YD "like Iamb looking through glass" experience. It's not terrible, but it should have been a lot better. Additionally, you should be able to get your locals in HD with cable. DirTV should be able to provide this capability soon, just not sure when (November is now end of the year, then delayed to who knows, but hopefully not).

The downside of Comcast/cable in general is that I hear/read experiences can vary based on the region you live in. Best to check with a local Red Sox fan who has comcast and see what he/she thinks of it. Since you already have Comcast HSI, you should be able to get a bit of a price break if you add cable to the package, but YMMV.

The 6412 is fairly user friendly, but it's no tivo or directivo. Hard to compare since I don't know anything about the HR20, but my wife can operate the Motorola box without me having to give her step by step directions for recording or playback.

DirTv SD PQ is better than cable's SD for analog stations, but cables's digital SD PQ is just as good as Direct's SD PQ, if not a bit better (less artifacts/blocking)--again, this may change once Direct goes to it's new mpeg4.

I live in the Boston area and just switched from DirecTV to Comcast. The PQ ,in my case, is better on all types of channels HD or SD.The HD picture is outstanding compared to DirectTV. And don't count on DirectTV getting the Mpeg4 running anytime soon,they told me it will be at least another few months, that was a big reason for my switching. I do miss my NFL season ticket but now having my local channels and NESN in HD makes up for that. I had the H10-250 and liked the Tivo interface much better and it had twice the capacity of the Comcast PVR but the Comcast has On Demand and it is much faster scheduling recordings. Hope that helps.

"Please enjoy a free preview of ON DEMAND now through December 31st. Pick a show and play it whenever. Most programs are free."

A note from the latest bill. Does this mean they are going to start CHARGING for On Demand access? Wil lthey be phasing out tier buy through?

"Please enjoy a free preview of ON DEMAND now through December 31st. Pick a show and play it whenever. Most programs are free."

A note from the latest bill. Does this mean they are going to start CHARGING for On Demand access? Wil lthey be phasing out tier buy through?

No, free preview means that customer that don't have a digital package will be able to have VOD until 12/31. Normally you need atleast Classic ($5.95) to get VOD.

Also, this doesn't mean the pay movies will be free either. You still have to pay for them.

will ADS come through on my cablecard,or do I need the moto?
here in quincy,0-99 is still grainy analog through my tv tuner(with cablecard)

will ADS come through on my cablecard,or do I need the moto?
here in quincy,0-99 is still grainy analog through my tv tuner(with cablecard)

I was wondering that myself since I was considering getting cablecard with my next TV purchase, There really is a nice improvement with ADS on my dital boxes compared to my analog set up. However if Quincy is already fully ADS you might have answered your own question but I hope this is not the case, maybe someone in the know can chime in.

I don't know if ADS is finished in my town or not. But some of the lower channels (3, 12, 14, 16, etc. and some shopping channels) come in digital on my TV with CableCARD.

No, free preview means that customer that don't have a digital package will be able to have VOD until 12/31. Normally you need atleast Classic ($5.95) to get VOD.

Also, this doesn't mean the pay movies will be free either. You still have to pay for them.

I GET classic. Mainly to keep my On Demand ,Weatherscan, and the HD channels :)

I also get digital plus for the encore movie channels and such.

apparently my locals ARE coming in digital through cablecard,no cable favorites though.I am not impressed with the quality,and it dissables my POP on my sony gwIII.

Cablecard is only a decoder. it does not scale the resolution like a stb. If your PQ is better with the cable box, it's internal scaler must be doing a better job than your TV. Should not disable POP either as it is no different than plugging your cable into the back of the TV like the old days. What type of STB do you have?

I guess I don't understand why anyone would get cablecard over the STB. Since On Demand is not accessible with cablecard, the cablecard user is losing tons of on demand content. At first I didn't think on demand was that great, but now that they have free movies, shows, music videos etc, and now even a special patriots on demand feature I find that Im using it more and more. At this point if I could use cablecard I wouldnt, the savings in the STB would not make up for the loss of On demand content.

-Ken

I guess I don't understand why anyone would get cablecard over the STB. Since On Demand is not accessible with cablecard, the cablecard user is losing tons of on demand content. At first I didn't think on demand was that great, but now that they have free movies, shows, music videos etc, and now even a special patriots on demand feature I find that Im using it more and more. At this point if I could use cablecard I wouldnt, the savings in the STB would not make up for the loss of On demand content.

-Ken

Better picture quality.

I guess I'm happy trading off some quality for the extra content, which is getting pretty extensive !!

-Ken

Not me. I'd rather have quality over quantity.

I did have a cousin who, in our younger days, referring to dating scales said, "two "5's" equal one "10".

I'd rather have the one "10".

Are any of the On Demand shows in HD? If not, then I have no use of it. CableCARD is cheap and great for my use.

Since sometime friday my Picture Quality and reception has become absolute garbage. Some HD channels (like HBO-HD) become a macroblocked pixelated piece of garbage that stutters and jutters, while others like Fox and CBS look like theyre running at half-resolution and half-the-frameate.
I've got a Moto Phase III box, and stuff already saved to the DVR earlier plays just fine, so I'm wondering if it's a cable problem or a tuner problem. Grrr, time to call Comcast...again...

Since sometime friday my Picture Quality and reception has become absolute garbage. Some HD channels (like HBO-HD) become a macroblocked pixelated piece of garbage that stutters and jutters, while others like Fox and CBS look like theyre running at half-resolution and half-the-frameate.
I've got a Moto Phase III box, and stuff already saved to the DVR earlier plays just fine, so I'm wondering if it's a cable problem or a tuner problem. Grrr, time to call Comcast...again...


Sounds like levels issues... in house wiring or drop problems. A service call is warranted for this, unless your box is just crapped out.

Who is showing the Patriots game in HD tonight? My guide shows both ESPN (849) and ABC (805) carrying the game. I know that 805 is just the local ABC affiliate broadcasting the ESPN signal so that local folks without cable can watch the game.

But I'm not going to be home and I need to know what station to set my DVR to. Will 849 be blacked out? Will 805 be broadcasting the HD signal?

I hate to set it to 805 and then find out that they don't show the HD stream and find out that it was in HD on 849. But I hate to set it to 849 and find out that it was blacked out on 849.

Does anybody know?

Thanks

I'm not sure which will be blacked out, buy why dont you recod both 805 & 849 to be on the safe side.

I'm not sure which will be blacked out, buy why dont you recod both 805 & 849 to be on the safe side.

I would love to do that, but that would take up both tuners on the DVR and the wifey will be at home watching TV. I couldn't get away with taking up both tuners.

The rights to the game are owned by ESPN, channel 5 takes and rebroadcasts the game in SD only if the past is any indication.

It shouldn't be blacked out on ESPN as like every pats game its a sellout anyhow, and ESPN does own the nationwide rights.

Who is showing the Patriots game in HD tonight? My guide shows both ESPN (849) and ABC (805) carrying the game. I know that 805 is just the local ABC affiliate broadcasting the ESPN signal so that local folks without cable can watch the game.

But I'm not going to be home and I need to know what station to set my DVR to. Will 849 be blacked out? Will 805 be broadcasting the HD signal?

I hate to set it to 805 and then find out that they don't show the HD stream and find out that it was in HD on 849. But I hate to set it to 849 and find out that it was blacked out on 849.

Does anybody know?

Thanks

I know its a little late but the rule is ESPN HD is not subject to blackout unless the game a s a whiole was blacked out, like that wouldhappen.

849 was the ticket.

I get a FAR superior picture with cablecard than with the moto,and have tried different resolutions.my tv has one digital tuner,and one ntsc tuner,pop will only work if one channel is ntsc,it worked before the ADS was implimented,I could watch one hd,or digital channel with the pop window being ntsc.

Are any of the On Demand shows in HD? If not, then I have no use of it. CableCARD is cheap and great for my use.

Until just recently, all HD On Demand shows cost between $3.99 and $5.99. Imagine my surprise over the weekend when I noticed that the classic Lawrence of Arabia is now available on demand in HD for FREE! Not OAR, but 16:9 HD.

I would have noticed it two weeks ago if I'd read this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=592499)....

Until just recently, all HD On Demand shows cost between $3.99 and $5.99. Imagine my surprise over the weekend when I noticed that the classic Lawrence of Arabia is now available on demand in HD for FREE! Not OAR, but 16:9 HD.

I would have noticed it two weeks ago if I'd read this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=592499)....

I watched it the weekend after it became available. I did notice the lip-sync was a bit off, but I used my receiver to compensate. Also, it did break up here and there for a second. The only bad thing that happened was that I paused part I about half way through it and by the time I got back to the TV it went back to the OnDemand menu...when I tried to resume the movie it started from the beginning! Better off hitting STOP instead of PAUSE I guess. PQ was great though! Since I had never seen the movie before I have no idea what was cut off by changing the aspect ratio.

I watched Lawerence of Arabia last night also and am glad that someone noticed the lip synch issues, at least it wasn't my set.

The picture quality was far superior to my DVD copy.

Celtics opener is up in true DD5.1 and HD on FSN via INHD2. Sounds like they fixed last years audio glitches. The 5.1 surround is working properly so far, knock on wood.

Too bad the video looks like the Cettics of last year, long periods of Celtics players doing nothing !!! Anyone elses picture keep freezing up ?

The video is jerky though 7:00 left in the first quarter. The DD5.1 just dropped too here in central MA (Westford head-end).

That's Ok, its not like it is something important like a Patriots game !!!! Go PATS !!!!

Too bad the video looks like the Cettics of last year, long periods of Celtics players doing nothing !!! Anyone elses picture keep freezing up ?

I didn't see any freezing or "jerky" picture problems, but you're right about the PQ - same crappy macroblocking during fast action sequences. Nothing beats that top-notch Fox broadcasting gear! :rolleyes:

Good news: a new HD channel

Bad news: It is only WMUR-DT

chit....
Having worked at WMUR-TV9 back in the 80's...I tend to concur with what the late "Uncle Gus" (Gus Bernier) used to call the station: "Tinker-Toy Television"!!
Technologically, the place has come a LONG way from its infancy. Even in the '80s, there was no such thing as "automatic transmitter supervision" there...That was MY job; to sit for 12-14 hours a day at the transmitter, just to "monitor" it and shut it down at 1AM (yes....it wasn't even 24 hours then....!!). Now... while technically more-or-less up to snuff...the on-air talent leaves a LOT to be desired...a story for another time....:)

I'm not syaing WMUR is a bad channel.

WMUR-DT is just using bandwidth that could have been used for ESPN2HD or Universal HD or even HDNet :)

A couple quick questions

1) How much does it cost to rent a cablecard if I am already renting a STB ?

2) How do I view a specific channel's guide ? I have stumbled on this screen before so I know it exist. If I remember correctly the screen goes top to bottom starting with the current time slot.

A couple quick questions

1) How much does it cost to rent a cablecard if I am already renting a STB ?

2) How do I view a specific channel's guide ? I have stumbled on this screen before so I know it exist. If I remember correctly the screen goes top to bottom starting with the current time slot.


a. $2.45

b. menu->main menu->tv listing by channel

b. menu->main menu->tv listing by channel

Ug. Does anyone know if there is RF code to go directly to this ? If not can one of the Comcast folks ask the iGuide folks to implement direct access :)

Can I pick up a cablecard at a Comcast office ? Or does a tech have to come to my house ?

Ug. Does anyone know if there is RF code to go directly to this ? If not can one of the Comcast folks ask the iGuide folks to implement direct access :)

Can I pick up a cablecard at a Comcast office ? Or does a tech have to come to my house ?


tech only

Celtics opener is up in true DD5.1 and HD on FSN via INHD2. Sounds like they fixed last years audio glitches. The 5.1 surround is working properly so far, knock on wood.
FSNE did a nice job with the Celtics opener. I am thankful to have the Pats, Sox, Celtics and Bruins available to us in HD.

Mickey

FSNE did a nice job with the Celtics opener. I am thankful to have the Pats, Sox, Celtics and Bruins available to us in HD.

Mickey

At least you guys saw it. Comcast CT messed up and never flipped the switch or whatever they need to do to put FSN HD on INHD2. The guide data was there, but that's about it. Fingers crossed for the next game.

Celtics opener is up in true DD5.1 and HD on FSN via INHD2. Sounds like they fixed last years audio glitches. The 5.1 surround is working properly so far, knock on wood.


I only watched a little bit of this game, but they still had the center channel messed up as I was hearing it on my rear speakers, just like last year. :confused:

Not me. I'd rather have quality over quantity.

I did have a cousin who, in our younger days, referring to dating scales said, "two "5's" equal one "10".

I'd rather have the one "10".

Hmm... ...a 5 would represent average. 2 "averages" at the same time, that wouldn't be so bad!

Hmm... ...a 5 would represent average. 2 "averages" at the same time, that wouldn't be so bad!

Point noted!

I'm not syaing WMUR is a bad channel.

WMUR-DT is just using bandwidth that could have been used for ESPN2HD or Universal HD or even HDNet :)

Yeah this is just a COMPLETE waste of bandwidth due to the fact that it is only the network shows that are in HD anyway. I supose this has something to do with must carry rules.

At least we can say we now have a new HD channel :(

-Ken

I'm just bummed that we can't get HD feeds of WNDS.

Just think of it: Al Kaprielian and Candlepin Bowling in glorious hi def!

Good Eeeeeeeeevening!

I'm just bummed that we can't get HD feeds of WNDS.

Just think of it: Al Kaprielian and Candlepin Bowling in glorious hi def!

Good Eeeeeeeeevening!

If the WMUR thin is due to must carry, then WZMY (WNDS) will be next :eek:

If the WMUR thin is due to must carry, then WZMY (WNDS) will be next :eek:

EXTREMELY unlikely as they are still 480i 4:3.

EXTREMELY unlikely as they are still 480i 4:3.

Actually they have temporary operating authority for their digital signal, so a full license can't be that far away.

-Ken

Is there any reason why I don't seem to have 5.1 sound on any of the Comcast HD channels? In the last few weeks, I lost it, then got it back and now don't have it. Also, I thought on the "INFO" screen, it told you what the audio is.

Gary

Yeah this is just a COMPLETE waste of bandwidth due to the fact that it is only the network shows that are in HD anyway. I supose this has something to do with must carry rules.

At least we can say we now have a new HD channel :(

-Ken

WMUR HD would of been real useful a couple weeks ago when Lost was pre-empted by the SD broadcast of the Red Sox playoff game.

If the WMUR thin is due to must carry, then WZMY (WNDS) will be next :eek:


What is WMUR and where is it ? What channel ?


Thanks

Channel 9, ABC affiliate, Manchester, NH.

I'm assuming it'll be channel 809, but I haven't checked yet.

Thanks
I did look around but didn't see it anywhere, maybe not available here in SE Mass

Thanks
I did look around but didn't see it anywhere, maybe not available here in SE Mass

Southeast definatly NOT.

WMUR is an ABC affilate based out of Manchester NH. It is now owned by the same folks who own WCVB and carries a nearly identical schedule.

Actually they have temporary operating authority for their digital signal, so a full license can't be that far away.

-Ken

That dosen't mean the would be carrying any HD programming.

I see my TV eventaullly going all informercial.

Is there any reason why I don't seem to have 5.1 sound on any of the Comcast HD channels? In the last few weeks, I lost it, then got it back and now don't have it. Also, I thought on the "INFO" screen, it told you what the audio is.

Gary
Try powering the box off then back on again. There is a known problem with the 6412 that causes it to stop outputting 5.1.

Is there any reason why I don't seem to have 5.1 sound on any of the Comcast HD channels? In the last few weeks, I lost it, then got it back and now don't have it. Also, I thought on the "INFO" screen, it told you what the audio is.

Gary

At the very end of 'Tune-up' which is on one of the INHDs Staurday morning has an audio test that sends sound to each specific speaker - to indeed confirm/deny. What audio does your receiver show? Dolby D, some type of Surround?

809 Was on last night when I got home from the Bruins game.

I'm just bummed that we can't get HD feeds of WNDS.

Just think of it: Al Kaprielian and Candlepin Bowling in glorious hi def!

Good Eeeeeeeeevening!


I think I'd rather submit to bamboo shoots under the fingernails. That would be less painful. It's bad enough I have to see Al around town. That guy is such a dork.

I think I'd rather submit to bamboo shoots under the fingernails. That would be less painful. It's bad enough I have to see Al around town. That guy is such a dork.

and watch out for that HIGH pressure! I have 809 down here in Hudson, MA. I dont even have regular WMUR to my knowledge...

That dosen't mean the would be carrying any HD programming.

I see my TV eventaullly going all informercial.

ChitChat :

Whether or not they carry any HD programming is irrevelant. If this is a must carry issue then Comcast will have to carry WMYZ-DT regardless. Maybe they could stick it on a 4:3 digital channel instead of wasting a full bandwidth HD channel.

-Ken

and watch out for that HIGH pressure! I have 809 down here in Hudson, MA. I dont even have regular WMUR to my knowledge...

Same here in Bedford, MA. Why do I need 2 ABC channels with almost identical programming???

Well, that does seem to be the question of the day.

I think the answer might be that maybe when one of them forgets to flip whatever switch they keep forgetting to flip, you have the other as a backup.

Anyone watching the NotreDame game on 810.It's a macroblock mess.Must be a low bitrate.

ND games on NBC look like this every week. NBC HD sucks

No 809 here in Salem, MA, yet my parents 2 towns over in Topsfield get it. Not sure what the deal is.

Quick question: I remember there was an easy way to check if a channel is being broadcast in digital or not but don't remember what it is. What's the best way to check if ADS is underway and what channels have been done?

PJ,

We have it in Beverly, but why have 2 mirror stations in HD?

805 and 809 had different college games today so it was nice to have both. Unfortunately, ABC still isn't doing their games in HD!

805 and 809 had different college games today so it was nice to have both. Unfortunately, ABC still isn't doing their games in HD!

Same thing will happen today on FOX NFL Boston has one game and Providence has another both HD.

Quick question: I remember there was an easy way to check if a channel is being broadcast in digital or not but don't remember what it is. What's the best way to check if ADS is underway and what channels have been done?


Look for the Dolby D logo when you pull up info on the channel or show.

I noticed my 903 channel with ADS looks crappier then the analog at 3.

I noticed my 903 channel with ADS looks crappier then the analog at 3.


903 is analog, 3 is digital in your area. Why would you go to 903 anyways?

Ok I see, I just looks at 3 just to compare the quality between the 2, I never watch it anyways.

No 809 here in Salem, MA, yet my parents 2 towns over in Topsfield get it. Not sure what the deal is.

Quick question: I remember there was an easy way to check if a channel is being broadcast in digital or not but don't remember what it is. What's the best way to check if ADS is underway and what channels have been done?

Headends that are subject to WMUR "must carry" or have historically shown it in any town within its service area will probably carry channel 809 to all towns. The headend that feeds Salem, MA must not meet these criteria.

To check for digital. Tune to the channel, turn off the power and press select/OK. The "Diagnostic Screen" will appear. Move down to "Current Channel Status" and press select/OK. This can be time consumming to go through all channels. So, the best way to tell if a channel is ADS is to use your eyes and look for that snow free picture. The Moto DCT's make analog look terrible.

We never had WMUR in analog here. Why do we have it in HD now? Just curious.

903 is analog, 3 is digital in your area. Why would you go to 903 anyways?

The purpose of 903 (and 908,909,and 910) is for cable systems in apartment building where the "security camera channel" tkes over on of the channels o n analog,usually channel 3.

Channel 3 would have CN8 and channel 903 would have the camera.

In my building the camera is on channel 13 and ONLY on the house antenna system,which when connecting an ATSC tuner to it, gets 2,4,5,7,9,25,38, and 56 in HD along with the multiplex channels of 44 and 68.

But I don't live in an apartment my own home so I still a get 903?

We never had WMUR in analog here. Why do we have it in HD now? Just curious.

There must be a town to the north fed from the same headend as Bedford that had WMUR already. You may be fed from a super headend that covers a wider area. Do you know where your headend is?

But I don't live in an apartment my own home so I still a get 903?


Apartment buildings won't have dedicated RF channels sent from the cable company. They share the same RF feed with private homes. The security camera signals are added onsite. While channel 9XX sent from Comcast will be seen by everyone regardless of location.

Thanks for the HD sports schedule. All you need now is some advertiser support to keep it going.

Thanks for the HD sports schedule. All you need now is some advertiser support to keep it going.

Yeah. Very cool. :cool:

There must be a town to the north fed from the same headend as Bedford that had WMUR already. You may be fed from a super headend that covers a wider area. Do you know where your headend is?

I have no idea where the headend is. All I know is we never had WMUR before in any form. I just worry that when new HD channels come, we won't get them for the bandwidth is taken up by this duplicated "local".

I think I'd rather submit to bamboo shoots under the fingernails. That would be less painful. It's bad enough I have to see Al around town. That guy is such a dork.

At least you didn't have to sit next to him in High School, I still have nightmares.

Yeah. Very cool. :cool:

Thanks I also will be put up the Redsox games, and more college ones, but I have been busy setting up people new HDTVs after they saw my setup.

Just a question with Comcast and their HD channels.

If we get the regular ESPN channels non-HD, and Fox Sports non-HD, will I be getting ESPNHD and FSNHD/INHD2 when the Comcast dude comes to install the card next week?

Or do I have to order a separate HD package?

Just a question with Comcast and their HD channels.

If we get the regular ESPN channels non-HD, and Fox Sports non-HD, will I be getting ESPNHD and FSNHD/INHD2 when the Comcast dude comes to install the card next week?

Or do I have to order a separate HD package?

You need atleast Digital Classic (5.95) to get those chnls. W/O classic all you will get is your local HD chnls ONLY

You need atleast Digital Classic (5.95) to get those chnls. W/O classic all you will get is your local HD chnls ONLY

This makes sense as local HD channels are supposed to be (and correctly wso with comcast) part of BASIC service.

What I DO LIKE is being able to get digital classic withOUT having to get extended basic :)

There must be a town to the north fed from the same headend as Bedford that had WMUR already. You may be fed from a super headend that covers a wider area. Do you know where your headend is? So the reason we (I got it too) have WMUR is because somebody was not getting WCVB(?) ABC HD?

larry

So the reason we (I got it too) have WMUR is because somebody was not getting WCVB(?) ABC HD?

larry

No, likely their was some Must Carry Agreement that WMUR put into affect. Or some other deal. Who knows...

Problems ahead for channels 5 and 56.

When they eventually move to their digital channel (41 for WB and 20 for 5) they may have problems with call letters to designate their new channel number in Roman numerals

WXLI is currently being used by a religion channel in North Carolina

WBXX is currently being used by a Tennessee WB channel.

WXXB is currently available it seems.

So the reason we (I got it too) have WMUR is because somebody was not getting WCVB(?) ABC HD?

larry


I'd guess all towns fed from your headend have had WCVB HD all along and you got WMUR by default. Since Boston and Manchester are considered the same TV market. There's bound to be some overlapping in between. Stephenju makes a valid point about using up limited bandwidth. But I'm sure when Comcast adds new non broadcaster HD channels, we'll all get them somehow. The broadband industry may someday answer the bandwidth challenge by converting thier video services to IP and stream only what you want to watch at the time to your home. Why send 500 channels into everyone's house 24/7. Now that's wasting bandwidth.

Has anyone gotten the 12.22 firmware for the 6412 PIII?

Hey fellas, Comcast guy just installed the Cable Card into my Phillips. Everything looks incredible from the clear SD channels to the super clear HD channels.

One question I had though was I am getting black or gray bars on the sides on some of my HD channels. Is this just because the shows on these HD channels are not broadcast in HD?

Other than that, everything is working flawlessly for the past hour or so, so lets hope it stays that way.

Hey fellas, Comcast guy just installed the Cable Card into my Phillips. Everything looks incredible from the clear SD channels to the super clear HD channels.

One question I had though was I am getting black or gray bars on the sides on some of my HD channels. Is this just because the shows on these HD channels are not broadcast in HD?

Other than that, everything is working flawlessly for the past hour or so, so lets hope it stays that way.


If your talking about on local HD & ESPN, yes you will had black bars due to the programming not being filmed in HD.

Thats good to know, but when the Pats play tomorrow on WBZ I think, if that is broadcasted in HD, then it should take up the whole screen correct.

thanks

Correct

Apartment buildings won't have dedicated RF channels sent from the cable company. They share the same RF feed with private homes. The security camera signals are added onsite. While channel 9XX sent from Comcast will be seen by everyone regardless of location.

Thanks for the HD sports schedule. All you need now is some advertiser support to keep it going.
They don't send 9nn channels, those are analog so the apartments can still have door cams. Your channels 004 and 005 are now 256QAM and therefore don't tune to 67.25MHz and 79.25MHz anymore. 9xx is just to satisfy those handy dandy door cams at the hotels and apartments.
Dan

Headends that are subject to WMUR "must carry" or have historically shown it in any town within its service area will probably carry channel 809 to all towns. The headend that feeds Salem, MA must not meet these criteria.

To check for digital. Tune to the channel, turn off the power and press select/OK. The "Diagnostic Screen" will appear. Move down to "Current Channel Status" and press select/OK. This can be time consumming to go through all channels. So, the best way to tell if a channel is ADS is to use your eyes and look for that snow free picture. The Moto DCT's make analog look terrible.
'The Moto DCT's make analog look terrible' if you're looking at an hd television, tuning to an analog channel AND using an output that is either component or DVI from ONLY an HD box. DCT2nnn does not do that to the analog signal, that is unless your signal is crap in the first place. I suspect moto engineers did exactly what they were told, "make an HD box" and they forgot to include the proper conversion circuitry to produce quality analog SD output on the RGB and DVI. So they had to go back and quickly rework the integration of analog into the HD output portion of the DCT5/6xxx boxes.
Dano

will ADS come through on my cablecard,or do I need the moto?
here in quincy,0-99 is still grainy analog through my tv tuner(with cablecard)
Yup. But you can't order ondemand...but you knew that anyway.
Dano

Better picture quality.
All off-air SD programs transported via ADS are more than likely rateshaped and statmuxed. You're gonna get the same picture quality from an ATSC tv, cablecard or ASTB.
Dano

They don't send 9nn channels, those are analog so the apartments can still have door cams. Your channels 004 and 005 are now 256QAM and therefore don't tune to 67.25MHz and 79.25MHz anymore. 9xx is just to satisfy those handy dandy door cams at the hotels and apartments.
Dan

It should be based on the city ofr community. In Lawrence we have 903,908,909,and 910 with an analog feed of WGBH2 on channel 97.

The door cam channerl 13 and only on the house antenna.

It should be based on the city ofr community. In Lawrence we have 903,908,909,and 910 with an analog feed of WGBH2 on channel 97.

The door cam channerl 13 and only on the house antenna.

Whats the big deal if you have several 900s channels? Do they interfere with TV viewing habits?

Likely, due to limitations on backend stuff, they have to limit the granularity of channel maps. From my understanding, channel maps are headend specific, not town or community or building specific. There are THOUSANDS of apartment buildings out there.... do you know how difficult that would be to manage?

Is anybody currently able to record from their comcast hd motorola 6412 via firewire to their computer? I used to be able to, but this summer the output from the cable box stopped being readable on my computer (Mac using eyeTV software to 'tune in' the .ts output files). And now the putput files themselves are blank, zero k files.
I checked the diagnostics screen and the 5c value is set to "0" for all the channels, so I've been told that means there is no copy protection on them(?)

Anybody in Boston doing this successfully?

TIA

The HDTV recorders and players thread may have some answers for you.

[QUOTE=danalog]They don't send 9nn channels

Where does the CN8 feed on channel 903 come from? Verizon?

Man. Now I am glad I also have WMUR in addtion to WCVB feeds. The MNF game on 805 just plan sux. First someone forgot to flip the switch until 10 minutes into the game. Then the picture just totally screwed up. Half of the screen are all random green spots. All while 809 perfectly send in the great HD picture...

Is this a plot to promote WMUR? :)

Thanks for the update. I'm moving north.

[QUOTE=danalog]They don't send 9nn channels

Where does the CN8 feed on channel 903 come from? Verizon?

The 9-3 feed is thre analog version for those where the camera of the front door overrides channel 3 on the analog lineup. They get CN8 digitally on channel 3 (though i think it should be on channel 8) while channel 903 has the camera

Why do they charge $4.95 a month for the DCT700?

If I ran the system I would start offering Basic,digital classic and the DCT700 for $19.95 a month (or less)

Why do they charge $4.95 a month for the DCT700?

If I ran the system I would start offering Basic,digital classic and the DCT700 for $19.95 a month (or less)


that is pretty much that price right now

Basic $5 - $12
Classic - $5.95
700 - $5.05

pre-tax total $16 - $23

that is pretty much that price right now

Basic $5 - $12
Classic - $5.95
700 - $5.05

pre-tax total $16 - $23

This is true,but WHY charge $5 a month to rent a box that only costs them $40-50 (I think)

This is true,but WHY charge $5 a month to rent a box that only costs them $40-50 (I think)


I agree with that. I was reading that in some test areas they give the 1st 3 boxes for free & then the additional ones are $2 apiece. Hopefully this happens here once ADS is completed everywhere in NE.

Man. Now I am glad I also have WMUR in addtion to WCVB feeds. The MNF game on 805 just plan sux. First someone forgot to flip the switch until 10 minutes into the game. Then the picture just totally screwed up. Half of the screen are all random green spots. All while 809 perfectly send in the great HD picture...

Is this a plot to promote WMUR? :)

last week WCVB had a pregame show on at 8pm and WMUR ran normally scheduled programming. I didn't watch any games this week.

I agree with that. I was reading that in some test areas they give the 1st 3 boxes for free & then the additional ones are $2 apiece. Hopefully this happens here once ADS is completed everywhere in NE.

MY idea would be to have a six month transitional period then phase out all analog (Well at least Extended basic)

This is true,but WHY charge $5 a month to rent a box that only costs them $40-50 (I think) It would be pretty hard to view the video coming from the wire without the software running in the box (as mediocre as it is). You're not paying for the hardware - almost. This is just a guess, but I'd bet it's not too far off.

larry

Does anyone have experience of non-Comcast service in the Boston area? I know RCN offer service in my town (Watertown) but I'm not sure if it offers as good HD service. I would also like better SD quality than the garbage that Comcast continue to broadcast.

Comments on quality and price??

Does anyone have experience of non-Comcast service in the Boston area? I know RCN offer service in my town (Watertown) but I'm not sure if it offers as good HD service. I would also like better SD quality than the garbage that Comcast continue to broadcast.

Comments on quality and price??

channel lineup pretty much the same but Hdnet instead of INHD,NESN and FSN HD on seperate channels,TMC HD.

They may have specials but it costs more There is no "basic" component,only one digital tier,and they use the same box

channel lineup pretty much the same but Hdnet instead of INHD,NESN and FSN HD on seperate channels,TMC HD.

They may have specials but it costs more There is no "basic" component,only one digital tier,and they use the same box

Well right now they are offering a discounted bundle for 5 months, includes 10mbit broadband, phone, and DVR with pretty much all the channels for $119. After the 5 months it is still cheaper than ComCast. It looks pretty good if you need the bundle. I have all the services from ComCast at the moment.

Has anyone seen the PQ, both SD and HD on RCN. I don't really want to switch to a worse picture now that I have a decent HD set.

Nothing new for HD in Bristol County. Nearby Comcast town of Middleboro is negotating with Verizon. With more towns adding Verizon, HD Channels UP Cost DOWN.

that is pretty much that price right now

Basic $5 - $12
Classic - $5.95
700 - $5.05

pre-tax total $16 - $23

My comment is that they should start advertising it!

In the local latino paper they do empahsis that once can get just basic plus the Spanish tier

Have an appt scheduled in a week or so to replace my HD box with a DVR box. Any particular model I should avoid? Request?

Thanks in advance

Usually with the December bills they give a list of the "new" prices.

I thing I'm pretty siure extended basic will be going up as Fox News channel goes up from 25 cents to a full $1.00.

I am not sure what will hapopen with the digital tiers or if they are ready for a specific HD tier.

Will any more extedned basic channels go digital only,or will 2006 be the year they start phasing out analog altogether?

Anybody else having problems with their box right now?

Went to watch the Pats game at a buddy's and when I got back the box was completely off, no lights. Everything was plugged in properly, and I flipped the power strip on and off. Cable came back up, but I wasn't able to access the menu or change channels using the remote or the box itself.

While calling Comcast, the picture went to static (still received audio fine) that just somehow looks 'different' than static on one of my other components with no input. This was using my DVI to HDMI input. Customer service told me I had a bad box and they'd send somebody out Wednesday, but she didn't sound like she had any idea what she was talking about.

I switched from the HDMI to component and flipped the power strip again - now I'm getting picture and audio on that input, but I was only able to navigate the menu and change channels for about 30 seconds, and then the screen just "stuck". So right now I'm stuck watching the Colts game with a blue "To Be Announced" screen that I can't get rid of.

Called Comcast back and got somebody else who mentioned that she's received a few calls with similar issues today, and supposedly a more technical person will be calling me back. I'm just not sure what's going on, if they're telling me I won't have any proper service until Wednesday that's just ridiculous.

Any suggestions? They'd be much appreciated. Thanks!


EDIT: This is the Motorola HD dual tuner DVR box

Anybody else having problems with their box right now?

Went to watch the Pats game at a buddy's and when I got back the box was completely off, no lights. Everything was plugged in properly, and I flipped the power strip on and off. Cable came back up, but I wasn't able to access the menu or change channels using the remote or the box itself.

While calling Comcast, the picture went to static (still received audio fine) that just somehow looks 'different' than static on one of my other components with no input. This was using my DVI to HDMI input. Customer service told me I had a bad box and they'd send somebody out Wednesday, but she didn't sound like she had any idea what she was talking about.

I switched from the HDMI to component and flipped the power strip again - now I'm getting picture and audio on that input, but I was only able to navigate the menu and change channels for about 30 seconds, and then the screen just "stuck". So right now I'm stuck watching the Colts game with a blue "To Be Announced" screen that I can't get rid of.

Called Comcast back and got somebody else who mentioned that she's received a few calls with similar issues today, and supposedly a more technical person will be calling me back. I'm just not sure what's going on, if they're telling me I won't have any proper service until Wednesday that's just ridiculous.

Any suggestions? They'd be much appreciated. Thanks!


EDIT: This is the Motorola HD dual tuner DVR box

The default answer is "we'll send a technician out" from the reps. don't expect anything more. they won't know. If you get a good technical person on the phone, they might be able to help you.

When I got my cablecard installed earlier this month (see post "gee cablecard") my box was not working when tech left. I called and was told I needed to swap it out after their download didn't work. i was originally going to use the DVr but ended up just turning it in and am happy I did.

One night I came home and though tI'd catch some of the Celtics and the cablecard wasn't working on digital channels. it was the same day I returned the defective box. The rep on the phone said they'd have to schedule a tech visit. I got very angry and the loing and short is that he was able to fix it on their end. Seems the woman in the office took all my service down when I returned the box, even though I told her I had a cablecard.

Two words clue AND less.

I would say that the Fox news channel is not worth $1 per sub. If that is the case then they should drop the channel.

Usually with the December bills they give a list of the "new" prices.

I thing I'm pretty siure extended basic will be going up as Fox News channel goes up from 25 cents to a full $1.00.

I am not sure what will hapopen with the digital tiers or if they are ready for a specific HD tier.

Will any more extedned basic channels go digital only,or will 2006 be the year they start phasing out analog altogether?

And speaking of price increases, if I bag basic/expanded cable and just go with Digital Plus what exactly do I end up losing? I know this has been beaten to death but the Comcast site lists all the channels I have now if I use their channel guide filtered to Digital Plus. I think it assumes you have expanded basic.

I need ESPN, NESN, the locals, and ideally Nickelodeon/Disney channel. Is there a url that lists the proper lineup?

$1 per sub for any channel that also gets ad revenues is way out of line.

As long as they put commercials on their channels, they should be paying us for watching.

And speaking of price increases, if I bag basic/expanded cable and just go with Digital Plus what exactly do I end up losing? I know this has been beaten to death but the Comcast site lists all the channels I have now if I use their channel guide filtered to Digital Plus. I think it assumes you have expanded basic.

I need ESPN, NESN, the locals, and ideally Nickelodeon/Disney channel. Is there a url that lists the proper lineup?

NESN is part of the expanded lineup, so you'd lose that at least.

NESN is part of the expanded lineup, so you'd lose that at least.

To be more accurate you only will get live NESN HD sports events if you have an HD box.

To be more accurate you only will get live NESN HD sports events if you have an HD box.

or a DVR. (all DVRs are HD compatable :))

And speaking of price increases, if I bag basic/expanded cable and just go with Digital Plus what exactly do I end up losing? I know this has been beaten to death but the Comcast site lists all the channels I have now if I use their channel guide filtered to Digital Plus. I think it assumes you have expanded basic.

I need ESPN, NESN, the locals, and ideally Nickelodeon/Disney channel. Is there a url that lists the proper lineup?

Channels 24-69 go bye bye. No ESPN2 but you will still get ESPNHD on 849.
You would tecnically still get Nick but on a 3 hour delay on ch 228.

Disney would go bye bye as well.

You would still get live NESN HD events but other programming would be lost.

I would say that the Fox news channel is not worth $1 per sub. If that is the case then they should drop the channel.

and lose retransmission consent for the Fox network? Not likely.

I would say that the Fox news channel is not worth $1 per sub. If that is the case then they should drop the channel.

you would not want to know how much they charge for ESPN.

Give me a few months, and I'll work out why that'd be a bad thing...

(ok, ok, I know. Personal preference and all that.)

and lose retransmission consent for the Fox network? Not likely.The $1 is for Fox News channel, which is not covered by retransmission consent. The regular Fox network is covered, but Comcast doesn't pay for it. In theory, Fox could revoke consent for the broadcast network if Comcast drops Fox News, but Fox network needs Comcast's 21 million subscribers more than Comcast needs Fox. If Comcast loses Fox, maybe a couple of percent of subscribers would jump ship. If Fox loses Comcast, it loses about 20 percent of the households in the country, and about 20 percent of its advertising revenue.

The $1 is for Fox News channel, which is not covered by retransmission consent. The regular Fox network is covered, but Comcast doesn't pay for it. In theory, Fox could revoke consent for the broadcast network if Comcast drops Fox News, but Fox network needs Comcast's 21 million subscribers more than Comcast needs Fox. If Comcast loses Fox, maybe a couple of percent of subscribers would jump ship. If Fox loses Comcast, it loses about 20 percent of the households in the country, and about 20 percent of its advertising revenue.

The current cost is 25 cents. When they do announce the increases,you will know where 75 cents of it went.

Personally I would drop CNN. :)

The current cost is 25 cents. When they do announce the increases,you will know where 75 cents of it went.

Personally I would drop CNN. :)

No thank you.

Hello Bostonians!

I need some help. I currently have analog standard cable and considering the jump to HDTV. I was considering the Panasonic 500u plasma series with cablecard however after reading this thread I'm not so sure anymore:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605490&page=1&pp=30

Apparently, Comcast is blocking the digital audio output to a receiver on the higher tiered HD channels such as INHD, INHD2, Discovery HD, etc. I have been a steadfast believer in not giving away all my money to the cable company so I was intrigued by the cablecard option as I wouldn;t have to add the expense of renting an STB for approx. $8.mo. I am not interested in DVR, On-Demand, etc which I know I won't be getting and would only subscribe to Digital Classic to get the basic HD channels and whatever is OTA.

With that said, has anyone had a positive experience with Comcast, cablecard and a HDTV that they would be willing to share with me. I liked the 500u series from Panasonic but willing to hear what others recommend in the 42" size if they have the cable card working. Based on the thread link above, it appears that I am going to have to bite the bullet and rent the set top box to guarantee everything works with HD.

Thanks in advance everyone and GO PATS!

epie

Comcast is not blocking 5.1 to the HD channels because if they were all TVs with cable cards would have this issue. The porblem your talking about only happens on panny sets with a cable card.

This is on the manufacturer not the provider.

The $1 is for Fox News channel, which is not covered by retransmission consent. The regular Fox network is covered, but Comcast doesn't pay for it. In theory, Fox could revoke consent for the broadcast network if Comcast drops Fox News, but Fox network needs Comcast's 21 million subscribers more than Comcast needs Fox. If Comcast loses Fox, maybe a couple of percent of subscribers would jump ship. If Fox loses Comcast, it loses about 20 percent of the households in the country, and about 20 percent of its advertising revenue.

They would only be able to really drop consent on OnOs.

WFXT-DT is an OnO

Comcast is not blocking 5.1 to the HD channels because if they were all TVs with cable cards would have this issue. The porblem your talking about only happens on panny sets with a cable card.

This is on the manufacturer not the provider.

Its not that they are blocking 5.1, it is the copy protection data in the transmission stream (which is set at the head end by Comcast) is causing digital audio out to be disabled.

The fact that some TVs don't experience this is because they choose not to deal with the copy protect flags. Panasonic handles the flags - -but why are the flags there on these channels? We are not talking pay per view events or HBO movies.

There is no reason that copy never : cci 0x02 -- should be in the data stream for ALL digital "classic" and "plus" tier channels, like Disovery Science, National Geographic, Encore Action, Encore West, etc.

Are you telling me that the NFL broadcasts on FOX and CBS (where digital audio out is being allowed) would be LESS protected than discovery kids? Give me a break. Comcast is screwing up the data stream.

Someone with this issue in New Jersey (who has some connections) was able to get communication with the head-end technical people, who then fixed it. So it wasn't the TV.

The problem is, HOW DO YOU CONTACT THE HEAD-END people to fix this? You can't get pass the call center people who have no clue about head -ends.

>>There is no reason that copy never : cci 0x02 -- should be in the data stream >>for ALL digital "classic" and "plus" tier channels, like Disovery Science, National >>Geographic, Encore Action, Encore West, etc.


Agreed! Even the HBO channels are supposed to be copyable. The onlky things that might be set to "Copy never" (if ANY) are pay per view shows and maybe HBO on demand.

It should be based on the city ofr community. In Lawrence we have 903,908,909,and 910 with an analog feed of WGBH2 on channel 97.

The door cam channerl 13 and only on the house antenna.
If the door cam is only available on the house antenna on channel 13 you could instead have it on channel 910 (or 903, 908, 909 (another example of CC choice!)) and not have to change antenna feeds. You would have to invest in a channel 10 notch filter and an agile modulator if the one you're using for channel 13 is fixed.

[QUOTE=danalog]They don't send 9nn channels

Where does the CN8 feed on channel 903 come from? Verizon?
In short, "the cable wire" - in long, if you tuned to 903 on your digital box and then turned the box off and went into diagnostics and selected 'current channel' then you'd see that the tuned freq would be 61.25MHz (IRC/STD) and the type would be 'analog'. Tune to channel 003 and do the same thing and you would see type 'digital' and a different freq that is QAM.

Anyone else noticing that the audio is mismatched on NBC on 802. It is very annoyong. Is this a Comcast or NBC issue?

Can someone out there give me a specific response to my question above. I am looking for some guidance here from local Comcast subscribers prior to making the jump.

Thanks,
epie

If the door cam is only available on the house antenna on channel 13 you could instead have it on channel 910 (or 903, 908, 909 (another example of CC choice!)) and not have to change antenna feeds. You would have to invest in a channel 10 notch filter and an agile modulator if the one you're using for channel 13 is fixed.

I have th ehouse antenna hooked up to the NTSC tuner in the TV anyway and it is set on ch 13.

Hello Bostonians!

I need some help. I currently have analog standard cable and considering the jump to HDTV. I was considering the Panasonic 500u plasma series with cablecard however after reading this thread I'm not so sure anymore:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605490&page=1&pp=30

Apparently, Comcast is blocking the digital audio output to a receiver on the higher tiered HD channels such as INHD, INHD2, Discovery HD, etc. I have been a steadfast believer in not giving away all my money to the cable company so I was intrigued by the cablecard option as I wouldn;t have to add the expense of renting an STB for approx. $8.mo. I am not interested in DVR, On-Demand, etc which I know I won't be getting and would only subscribe to Digital Classic to get the basic HD channels and whatever is OTA.

With that said, has anyone had a positive experience with Comcast, cablecard and a HDTV that they would be willing to share with me. I liked the 500u series from Panasonic but willing to hear what others recommend in the 42" size if they have the cable card working. Based on the thread link above, it appears that I am going to have to bite the bullet and rent the set top box to guarantee everything works with HD.

Thanks in advance everyone and GO PATS!

epie

Can't help with cable card but I did just recently switch from DTV and feel the HD is much improved. As for TV's I'm a big Hitachi fan, one main reason is their presets are great. I have not touched any setting since taking it out of the box !!!! It's a 60V710 and the picture is fantastic.

Anyone know why ABC doesn't broadcast College Football in HD ? Is it ABC in general on WCVB ? They have the only game on right now TX vs TX A&M and no HD, what a joke.

Can't help with cable card but I did just recently switch from DTV and feel the HD is much improved. As for TV's I'm a big Hitachi fan, one main reason is their presets are great. I have not touched any setting since taking it out of the box !!!! It's a 60V710 and the picture is fantastic.

personally for the EPG and access to On Demand the box is worth its cost.

Hello Bostonians!

I need some help. I currently have analog standard cable and considering the jump to HDTV. I was considering the Panasonic 500u plasma series with cablecard however after reading this thread I'm not so sure anymore:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605490&page=1&pp=30

Apparently, Comcast is blocking the digital audio output to a receiver on the higher tiered HD channels such as INHD, INHD2, Discovery HD, etc. I have been a steadfast believer in not giving away all my money to the cable company so I was intrigued by the cablecard option as I wouldn;t have to add the expense of renting an STB for approx. $8.mo. I am not interested in DVR, On-Demand, etc which I know I won't be getting and would only subscribe to Digital Classic to get the basic HD channels and whatever is OTA.

With that said, has anyone had a positive experience with Comcast, cablecard and a HDTV that they would be willing to share with me. I liked the 500u series from Panasonic but willing to hear what others recommend in the 42" size if they have the cable card working. Based on the thread link above, it appears that I am going to have to bite the bullet and rent the set top box to guarantee everything works with HD.

Thanks in advance everyone and GO PATS!

epie



I have Comcast with Cable card on a Panny Plasma in Easton Ma. since 2/05
been working since day one, with no problems, I get all the channels in my package. The tech, the person at the head end nor their supervisor knew what they were doing nor what to expect, but the card went in the TV did a scan and everything worked.
My brother next town over did the same with a Samsung Plasma and it took 4 visits by Comcast to get it to work. I read lots of bad experiences here with cable card but there are probably many more good that we don't hear about.
My brother and I both like our setup, if VOD, cable guide etc. is not an issue for you, give a try. For us it was a one time fee for the tech of about $15, cable card is free.

Thanks Contsi! Hopefully I'll hear more experiences in the area (good and bad). Nice to hear Comcast finally got it working for you. Would be nice if they were a little savvier with cable cards. Anyway what model Panny do you have? Are you happy with it? WHat services do you subscribe to. I was told that I can't get NESN in HD without at least Digital Classic package. Is that true?

I got a promo card in the mail from Comcast in the mail today stating "Add HBO & HBO ON Demand for less than $10 more a month for 3 months!"

Isn't that how much it always costs?:confused:

Thanks Contsi! Hopefully I'll hear more experiences in the area (good and bad). Nice to hear Comcast finally got it working for you. Would be nice if they were a little savvier with cable cards. Anyway what model Panny do you have? Are you happy with it? WHat services do you subscribe to. I was told that I can't get NESN in HD without at least Digital Classic package. Is that true?

Yes it is true,but it is also true that you do not need extended basic in order to get digital classic.

I recently picked up a Sony DHG (DVR) and had a cable card installed on friday. I can tuned all the channels I subscribed to and the channel map is the same which is a nice plus but I have one major problem...my recording fail. I tried to record some content on HBO HD and the DHG says it failed because the recording aren't allowed. Anyone else around here have the DHG ? From reading the "official" (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=537711) thread it sounds like a common problem for cable card users. I was hoping it was headend specific and not going to happen with my headend :) Lots of theories on why it is happening but no real answers. I am not sure why the 6412 can record HBO HD and the DHG can not.

Don't have a DVR but when I look under cablecard status on my TV, there is a code set to disallow recording. It is set by the cable co. they want to rent DVR's and may claim that their DVR system is "closed" and guarantees recording only for personal use, while an open market system can be used to duplicate unlawfully and violate copyright. Call them and ask them why you can't record. It will be interesting to hear their comments, though they'll probably just tell you it's your set.

I got a preliminary look at what Verizon may be charging for Fios TV.

Broadcast basic is $13 and is equvilant to basic plus WGN. I would assume locally they would also get NECN but not CN8.

Extended basic is $35 and is basically eqivilant to standard service, plus digital plus with premiere

For around $50 (which could end up the cost of Standard service in 2006) you get THEIR extended basic,Showtime ,TMC,Starz and Encore ,AND a sports pack equlivant to our sports pack.

$25 more gets you HBO and Cinemax

Time will tell if and when we will have access to it.

Thanks Contsi! Hopefully I'll hear more experiences in the area (good and bad). Nice to hear Comcast finally got it working for you. Would be nice if they were a little savvier with cable cards. Anyway what model Panny do you have? Are you happy with it? WHat services do you subscribe to. I was told that I can't get NESN in HD without at least Digital Classic package. Is that true?

TH-37PD25, Perfect for the room it is in, sitting 8-9 feet away, for me this has been a great set, thinking about a 50" Panny HD set for a larger room. I don't believe the new Panny EDTV sets have a cable card slot or some other features,
the PD25 have all the features I'm pleased with it.
I did have to get the Digital Classic package to be able to get NESN, because it is broadcast on INHD which you need this package to get, but you will get some other HD channel as well beyond what you would get with basic cable.

I got a promo card in the mail from Comcast in the mail today stating "Add HBO & HBO ON Demand for less than $10 more a month for 3 months!"

Isn't that how much it always costs?:confused:

I got a call from them this weekend 3.99 for 3 months for HBO, HBO OnDemand, and HBO HD. Then it goes back to 9.99. I said thanks but no thanks.

I got a preliminary look at what Verizon may be charging for Fios TV.

Broadcast basic is $15 and is equvilant to basic plus WGN. I would assume locally they would also get NECN but not CN8.

Time will tell if and when we will have access to it.

NECN is owned by Comcast and Hearst. Doubt that you'd get it on Verizon.

NECN is owned by Comcast and Hearst. Doubt that you'd get it on Verizon.

NECN is availlbable on RCN ( a rival system). Verizon might carry it too.

Info for Verizon Fios, coming soon to your town:

http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/Channels/FiosTV/aboutfios.aspx






I got a preliminary look at what Verizon may be charging for Fios TV.

Broadcast basic is $15 and is equvilant to basic plus WGN. I would assume locally they would also get NECN but not CN8.

Extended basic is $35 and is basically eqivilant to standard service, plus digital plus with premiere

For around $50 (which could end up the cost of Standard service in 2006) you get THEIR extended basic,Showtime ,TMC,Starz and Encore ,AND a sports pack equlivant to our sports pack.

$25 more gets you HBO and Cinemax

Time will tell if and when we will have access to it.

Don't have a DVR but when I look under cablecard status on my TV, there is a code set to disallow recording. It is set by the cable co. they want to rent DVR's and may claim that their DVR system is "closed" and guarantees recording only for personal use, while an open market system can be used to duplicate unlawfully and violate copyright. Call them and ask them why you can't record. It will be interesting to hear their comments, though they'll probably just tell you it's your set.

I haven't called Comcast yet mostly because it will probably be a waste of time talking to a CSR and at best they will send a tech out that will waste more of my time. I am not ready yet to point the finger at Comcast. After a little more analysis it looks like HBO is getting sent down with a CCI flag of 0x02 (Copy Once). I would expect Sony dvr's to be able to record it. The problem is most likely with Motorola's cablecard or Sony firmware. I can't think of another CC equiped DVR so it is likely this scenario hasn't been well tested.

I live in Needham and have comcast with the HD digital package and a motorola HD STB.

I just purchased a sony HD DVR which is digital cable ready which I plan to use in another room with another HD monitor. With the DVR, I'm able to scan the comcast cable and get a number of digital stations. Some of them are HD channels. Is there a comprehensive list or guide of the digital channels and subchannels?

For example, there is a digital station at 87.2 How do I find out what it should be?

I have seen a simliar list for other cities in some of the other avsforum threads but wanted to know if something exisited for comcast in Boston or Needham.

I know I can contact comcast and get a card to remap the stations but I would rather not go that route.

I haven't called Comcast yet mostly because it will probably be a waste of time talking to a CSR and at best they will send a tech out that will waste more of my time. I am not ready yet to point the finger at Comcast. After a little more analysis it looks like HBO is getting sent down with a CCI flag of 0x02 (Copy Once). I would expect Sony dvr's to be able to record it. The problem is most likely with Motorola's cablecard or Sony firmware. I can't think of another CC equiped DVR so it is likely this scenario hasn't been well tested. Can D-VHS users copy the HBO movies via firewire on non-DVR boxes? That would basically be the same scenario.

larry

I live in Needham and have comcast with the HD digital package and a motorola HD STB.

I just purchased a sony HD DVR which is digital cable ready which I plan to use in another room with another HD monitor. With the DVR, I'm able to scan the comcast cable and get a number of digital stations. Some of them are HD channels. Is there a comprehensive list or guide of the digital channels and subchannels?

For example, there is a digital station at 87.2 How do I find out what it should be?

I have seen a simliar list for other cities in some of the other avsforum threads but wanted to know if something exisited for comcast in Boston or Needham.

I know I can contact comcast and get a card to remap the stations but I would rather not go that route.

With a cable card,it will map to the same channel numbers you would get with a box. Without the cable card,you are generally on your own,and you will only get the local broadcast channels and ONLY if you have a QAM tuner.

I haven't called Comcast yet mostly because it will probably be a waste of time talking to a CSR and at best they will send a tech out that will waste more of my time. I am not ready yet to point the finger at Comcast. After a little more analysis it looks like HBO is getting sent down with a CCI flag of 0x02 (Copy Once). I would expect Sony dvr's to be able to record it. The problem is most likely with Motorola's cablecard or Sony firmware. I can't think of another CC equiped DVR so it is likely this scenario hasn't been well tested.


Thanks for the info. I have the same code but assumed it was copy zero because the line above it says copy protection=enabled.

Let us know how you make out.

Quick Question.... hopefully I get a quick answer.

I have an HD ready TV. It has 3 inputs..
1. Component (for HD signal)
2. RCA
3. Coaxial

I pay for Digital Cable and have the black Motorola box. How can I get the HD Channels (800's) without paying for a new box w/ component outs? Can I buy a setup box off the shelf that converts the signal for me?

Brian

Quick Question.... hopefully I get a quick answer.

I have an HD ready TV. It has 3 inputs..
1. Component (for HD signal)
2. RCA
3. Coaxial

I pay for Digital Cable and have the black Motorola box. How can I get the HD Channels (800's) without paying for a new box w/ component outs? Can I buy a setup box off the shelf that converts the signal for me?

Brian

You DON'T!

It is just a trade in and a few bucks more. (Add $10 if you go for the DVR)
The sliver box is much better then the black and is worth the expense.

An off air ATSC tuner without QAM is worthless (for getting HD on cable) An ATSC tuner WITH QAM will only get broadcast HD.

Does anyone know what channel.subchannel WMUR is? Gotta plug it into mythtv, as I don't believe comcast is yet broadcasting program information and it's impossible the scan the channels..

I have FIOS for internet and phone existing. What will the options be for Local HD with the Verizon packages?

You DON'T!

It is just a trade in and a few bucks more. (Add $10 if you go for the DVR)
The sliver box is much better then the black and is worth the expense.

An off air ATSC tuner without QAM is worthless (for getting HD on cable) An ATSC tuner WITH QAM will only get broadcast HD.

Yea, unfortunately this is for my grandparents who want HD and they refuse to pay $1 more for cable. I figured I could get them a decent Christmas gift for them that would do the trick without costing them $$ every month.

Brian

Brian,

The upgrade is less than three dollars for the 6200 and then they will get INHD1 and 2. Well worth the small dollars.

-Ken

I have FIOS for internet and phone existing. What will the options be for Local HD with the Verizon packages?

Logic would seem to indicate they would duplicate Comcast's perfect lineup. (EVERY local HD channel,including ALL 7 broadcast networks (ABC,CBS,Fox,NBC,PBS,UPN,WB))

I realize we may not have the answer to this question, but when?!

When you call Verizon and get a response. Let us know. They are running fibre in my neighborhood but I still can't get it according to the VZ's website.

When you call Verizon and get a response. Let us know. They are running fibre in my neighborhood but I still can't get it according to the VZ's website.

Who knows?

probobly at least a year or so

I got my December bill.

No price increases listed :)

They do list Movieplex as part of digital classic and i do not get that channel OTOH

it is mearly a rebroadcast on a one hour delay of shows from variuous Encore networks

a second day of Encore drame has replaced Encore

when a channel ahas its plex day there seems to be mroe replays of a film

there are no R titles.

Hi, has anyone lost access to their ESPN, Comedy Central, TBS, MTV, etc. beginning on Dec. 1st? I have been receiving these channels for the past 3.5 years and all of a sudden I no longer get them. When I originally signed up, I was given a deal that included these channels with the Digital Silver package. Meaning I only pay $8 for basic cable (not extended basic) and $25 for Digital.

I am wondering how after all these years they all of a sudden "found their mistake" and took the channels away.

Hi, has anyone lost access to their ESPN, Comedy Central, TBS, MTV, etc. beginning on Dec. 1st? I have been receiving these channels for the past 3.5 years and all of a sudden I no longer get them. When I originally signed up, I was given a deal that included these channels with the Digital Silver package. Meaning I only pay $8 for basic cable (not extended basic) and $25 for Digital.

I am wondering how after all these years they all of a sudden "found their mistake" and took the channels away.


Yeah thats what had happened. They found out you only pay for basic so they took the extended chnls away.

Yeah thats what had happened. They found out you only pay for basic so they took the extended chnls away.

I still get them in the bedroom. My living room set has the box and the extended basic block filter.

I DO get ESPN HD and TNT HD I watch those but VERY seldom any of the other extended channels (theyre all SD anyway) :)

Hi, has anyone lost access to their ESPN, Comedy Central, TBS, MTV, etc. beginning on Dec. 1st? I have been receiving these channels for the past 3.5 years and all of a sudden I no longer get them. When I originally signed up, I was given a deal that included these channels with the Digital Silver package. Meaning I only pay $8 for basic cable (not extended basic) and $25 for Digital.

I am wondering how after all these years they all of a sudden "found their mistake" and took the channels away.


Same thing happened to me. I was paying $14 for all channels for last 15 yrs. Then I bought a Hdtv and decided to upgrade my service, 2dvrs hbo, and so on. $75 per mo. At the time of the uprade, (last Aug.) Comcast said I could still get the extended basic for the $14. Then they shut me off 3 weeks ago. I called them and they think I should be happy that I got a good deal for such a long time. I told them that they agreed not to charge me for the extended basic plan, to which they did not respond. I then told them that I would switch to Verizon or a Sat. co and that I would be paying Comcast 0 instead of $75 per month. I just got a bill for $119 from them. Is there anyone at Comcast to whom I could appeal this to? Good business would dictate some sort of compromise, rather than to just let me walk. Any opinions out there?

Are the local comcast out of dvr boxes? I ordered a DVR and was told that the boxes will not be available till Jan 2006. Is this correct?

Are the local comcast out of dvr boxes? I ordered a DVR and was told that the boxes will not be available till Jan 2006. Is this correct?


Yes

I'm in Massachusetts and currently get the Digital Silver Package w/HBO and High Speed Internet, Hi Def channels and DVR. I'm looking to lower my Cable monthly since I don't watch alot of the channels, I watch mostly Hi Def Locals and HBO when they have Sopranos , Deadwood etc. Since HBO now is Routinely waiting 2 years between new seasons I'm gonna dump them and get their programming on DVD when available. I wanted to get the limited Basic for my local channels and retain the Hi def package but comcast seems to indicate you have to have a Digital package to do this. Is anyone getting Hi Def without subbing to a Digital pack? They say I need to be at basic level which is $45 a month?? Also what is the monthly Internet price if I dump the digital I guess it jumps to $60 a month? My bill with DVR is about $140 a month. Just trying to cut that back.

Yes

Thanks for the reply. Will they be available in Jan or is that dicey too?

Did anyone else with a 6412 have lots of stuttering/stalling with yesterday's Patriots game?

Thanks for the reply. Will they be available in Jan or is that dicey too?


that too is dicey. most likely it will be jan, but no set date

Post #8222 merged in.

I'm in Massachusetts and currently get the Digital Silver Package w/HBO and High Speed Internet, Hi Def channels and DVR. I'm looking to lower my Cable monthly since I don't watch alot of the channels, I watch mostly Hi Def Locals and HBO when they have Sopranos , Deadwood etc. Since HBO now is Routinely waiting 2 years between new seasons I'm gonna dump them and get their programming on DVD when available. I wanted to get the limited Basic for my local channels and retain the Hi def package but comcast seems to indicate you have to have a Digital package to do this. Is anyone getting Hi Def without subbing to a Digital pack? They say I need to be at basic level which is $45 a month?? Also what is the monthly Internet price if I dump the digital I guess it jumps to $60 a month? My bill with DVR is about $140 a month. Just trying to cut that back.

basic, aprox 25 chnl, is normally $8-$15 depending on your town. With that you still can get hd, but just local chnls in HD. If you want espn,tnt,inhd1,2 & discovery you need atleast classic. roughly costing $22-$29, for basic, hd box & classic.

As long as you have any level of cable, your internet price is the same.

Did anyone else with a 6412 have lots of stuttering/stalling with yesterday's Patriots game?
I recorded it and watched it on my 6412 last night. I only remember one "stall" where the picture froze and then started up again a few seconds later, but nothing else unusual.

Mickey

I recorded it and watched it on my 6412 last night. I only remember one "stall" where the picture froze and then started up again a few seconds later, but nothing else unusual.

Interesting. I had somewhere around 2-3 dozen "stalls" like that, some of them quite bad. Haven't changed anything in the config lately, so I guess I'll have to keep an eye on the box itself, see if I see it elsewhere.

My cable bill is $110 with digitial platimum with 1 HD box and 2 standard digital boxes If increase is too much will have to downgrade. When are going to see more HD channels? Last one in Bristol County was TNT-HD and WLVI-DT

damn!! $110? I knew there was a reason I setup Dish Network.

I pay $79 for the 180 National Network Channel Package all digital quality, 8 HBO's, HBO-HD, 7 Cinemax's, Sirius Radio is included, all Locals are included, NESN, and FOXNE. I also pay for the upgrade National HD package, Voom-HD Channels, 3 regular box's, 1 HD box, and all my local HD channels are free OTA.

Brian

Hi all,

It's been a while since I posted, so I've been trying to catch up on pages and pages of posts.

I've noticed lately that using the FF/RW buttons on the remote during DVR playback on trhe 6412 can become very slow and unresponsive. If I hit FF during playback of a recorded show, it takes a few seconds for it to start FF. It looks like it's trying to start and the it does. I will then hit the FF button again and no response. If I hit it again, all of a sudden, it will go to 4x FF or even back to play.

Has anyone else noticed this? The remote is fine during live shows, though I have noticed the same behavior when RW or FF a live show.

I see the same thing. If I hit play to start a show and immediately press FF a couple of times it doesn't do anything. Then all of a sudden it kicks in but by then I've hit play and stop 2 dozen times and I end up back at live TV ;>) I've only had it for a month now but it pales in comparison to the Tivo I had for 4 years. So much for progress.

Same thing happened to me. I was paying $14 for all channels for last 15 yrs. Then I bought a Hdtv and decided to upgrade my service, 2dvrs hbo, and so on. $75 per mo. At the time of the uprade, (last Aug.) Comcast said I could still get the extended basic for the $14. Then they shut me off 3 weeks ago. I called them and they think I should be happy that I got a good deal for such a long time. I told them that they agreed not to charge me for the extended basic plan, to which they did not respond. I then told them that I would switch to Verizon or a Sat. co and that I would be paying Comcast 0 instead of $75 per month. I just got a bill for $119 from them. Is there anyone at Comcast to whom I could appeal this to? Good business would dictate some sort of compromise, rather than to just let me walk. Any opinions out there?

I don't believe that they think the same. cablecards here are free, but constitute an additional $3 a month if used with a STB as a second TV set. I tried using this same logic and asked if they would NOT charge me the $3 if I kept my STB which provides them additional PPV revenues. They said no. I returned the STB and now have no charge for the cablecard. They could have received $15/month for the DVR STB plus additional rentals but chose to forego. Good business? Nope.

Thanks for the reply. Will they be available in Jan or is that dicey too?

Have you tried visiting your local Comcast office to get a DVR box? I was able to walk in to my local office (Wakefield) last Monday and pick up a 3412 DVR. The CSRs at the main Comcast number can;t tell what the local office has in inventory, and there is no way to call the local office directly, you just have to stop by ad ask 'em.

The 3412 box has some bugs, and Ii can't wait for the new Tivo boxes...

basic, aprox 25 chnl, is normally $8-$15 depending on your town. With that you still can get hd, but just local chnls in HD. If you want espn,tnt,inhd1,2 & discovery you need atleast classic. roughly costing $22-$29, for basic, hd box & classic.

As long as you have any level of cable, your internet price is the same.

The question is how much longer will the continue to let people do this? They could easilt price ALL digital packages in a way to that extended basic would be required.

They do have to include allow us to get HD locals for Basic and a box,and HBO and co has to be offered a-la-carte,or will they be availeble only as part of other packages ,all of them including extedned basic?

The question is how much longer will the continue to let people do this? They could easilt price ALL digital packages in a way to that extended basic would be required.

They do have to include allow us to get HD locals for Basic and a box,and HBO and co has to be offered a-la-carte,or will they be availeble only as part of other packages ,all of them including extedned basic?

No cable competition other than satellite. My condo faces the wrong direction so it's not an option for me. Some towns have RCN. Need three players on the block to see competitive effect (fios?). We're very close to 2006 and still being charged extra for HD (tnt-disc-inhd, etc). As more channels go HD, there's more demand and the tier scale will only continue since channels upgrading will be national and not "local".

On a semi-related note, Verizon is now accepting signups for FIOS installations in S. Nashua. Initially they only offer Internet and telephone service, but the customer service rep with whom I spoke said they were hoping to be able to offer TV in the not-too-distant future.

Tony

No cable competition other than satellite. My condo faces the wrong direction so it's not an option for me. Some towns have RCN. Need three players on the block to see competitive effect (fios?). We're very close to 2006 and still being charged extra for HD (tnt-disc-inhd, etc). As more channels go HD, there's more demand and the tier scale will only continue since channels upgrading will be national and not "local".

That sort of works for me as i like my Basic with HD! :)
access to On Demand is cool as well.

They could easilt price ALL digital packages in a way to that extended basic would be required.
Comcast would like you to believe that this is already the case. Their online system will not let you place an order for digital cable without expanded basic channels, but in most places they cannot legally require you to pay for expanded programs if you don't want them. You must talk to a customer service person to order digital cable without the expanded basic channels.

Comcast would like you to believe that this is already the case. Their online system will not let you place an order for digital cable without expanded basic channels, but in most places they cannot legally require you to pay for expanded programs if you don't want them. You must talk to a customer service person to order digital cable without the expanded basic channels.

This is because they price it as an a-lacarte service. I am saying a day may come when it isn't,especially when they can consider extednned as part of digital cable with ADS.

RCN dosent even have a "Lifeline" service,nor do the Sat services.

Not sure this question goes here but...............

When D* converts Boston to MPEG4 from MPEG2 will NESC come throught in high def??? I have an antenna now for local HD but can't get Bruins games in HD with Direct now.

Thanks

Not sure this question goes here but...............

When D* converts Boston to MPEG4 from MPEG2 will NESC come throught in high def??? I have an antenna now for local HD but can't get Bruins games in HD with Direct now.

Thanks
NESN is a cable channel, not available OTA and not considered a local must-carry. This would only become available to D* if D* negotiates a carriage agreement with NESN. I don't think that is one of D*'s current priorities.

Mickey

NESN is a cable channel, not available OTA and not considered a local must-carry. This would only become available to D* if D* negotiates a carriage agreement with NESN. I don't think that is one of D*'s current priorities.

Mickey

While it is true that NESN is available on cable I wouldn't call it a 'cable' channel. When I think of 'cable' channels I think of channels owned (at least partially) by the cable companies that will NEVER be carried on Sat (NECN, CN8, etc.) because of the fact that they are not distributed by sats.

NESN (SD version) is available on D*. And if I recall correctly NESN is owned by the Bruins and Sox; it is in their best interest to have as many eyes as possible on their product.

A few days ago I posted that Comcast took away my extended basic cable. After a few calls to them, each time they said I should be happy that I was not charged for these channels for the past 2 years. I say I was not charged because that was the promotion offered to me.

In an attempt to get these channels back, I noticed if I bi-passed the cable box, i.e. cable directly into the TV, I still received the extended basic channels. So now I am set up with a splitter with one cable going to the TV and one cable to the cable box. I just change the source when I want to watch TBS or Comedy Central.

Could someone explain to me why I am able to get these channels when the cable goes directly into the TV. It seems to me that I could get free cable if I didn't want HD and HBO.

A few days ago I posted that Comcast took away my extended basic cable. After a few calls to them, each time they said I should be happy that I was not charged for these channels for the past 2 years. I say I was not charged because that was the promotion offered to me.

In an attempt to get these channels back, I noticed if I bi-passed the cable box, i.e. cable directly into the TV, I still received the extended basic channels. So now I am set up with a splitter with one cable going to the TV and one cable to the cable box. I just change the source when I want to watch TBS or Comedy Central.

Could someone explain to me why I am able to get these channels when the cable goes directly into the TV. It seems to me that I could get free cable if I didn't want HD and HBO.

There is a filter that blocks out analog channels 24-69. In my house it is connected on the den outlet but not in the bedroom outlet.

Once ADS goes full titl and they start switching channels over to digital only (I would start with chhnnels 57-69) then there will be little need for the filter

There is a filter that blocks out analog channels 24-69. In my house it is connected on the den outlet but not in the bedroom outlet.

Once ADS goes full titl and they start switching channels over to digital only (I would start with chhnnels 57-69) then there will be little need for the filter



Comcast put the filter (extended basic channels) on the telephone pole across the street from my house.

Im in Malden Ma, and have Comcast Digi and a Moto HD box. IM a little confused about NESN HD, and FSNE HD. Do I get these? Do I get Bruins and Celtics games in HD? Is this information some place. I see some of you guys talking about NESN and FSN HD but I dont have them on my line up, and dont see them on comcast web site as HD options. I do see them on the forum post that says what cable providers offer... I jsut dont have them... any help?

Im in Malden Ma, and have Comcast Digi and a Moto HD box. IM a little confused about NESN HD, and FSNE HD. Do I get these? Do I get Bruins and Celtics games in HD? Is this information some place. I see some of you guys talking about NESN and FSN HD but I dont have them on my line up, and dont see them on comcast web site as HD options. I do see them on the forum post that says what cable providers offer... I jsut dont have them... any help?


InHD2, 882, becomes FSN HD or NESN HD, whenever there is a Celtics or Bruins home game or a Red Sox HD game.

Im in Malden Ma, and have Comcast Digi and a Moto HD box. IM a little confused about NESN HD, and FSNE HD. Do I get these? Do I get Bruins and Celtics games in HD? Is this information some place. I see some of you guys talking about NESN and FSN HD but I dont have them on my line up, and dont see them on comcast web site as HD options. I do see them on the forum post that says what cable providers offer... I jsut dont have them... any help?
Right now, when NESN-HD and Fox Sports New England HD have HD content Comcast broadcasts these over InHD-2 (channel 882). These are not full time channels yet. Celtics and Bruins home games are in HD and so are some (but not all) road games. Last night's Celtic road game was not in HD, so only available on FSN-SD.

Mickey