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Addicted2HD4Now
06-25-06, 07:25 PM
the mhd website has complete listings, but only a few days in advance. My theory is that mhd cannot provide the info far enough in advance to get in the comcast program guide. MHD is not listed on titantv.com either.

Thanks.

bicker1
06-25-06, 08:58 PM
Yet, my TiVo's guide (provided by Tribune) does have MHD program listings.

chitchatjf
06-25-06, 09:18 PM
Yet, my TiVo's guide (provided by Tribune) does have MHD program listings.

so does Excite.

PooperScooper
06-28-06, 10:10 AM
A little OT, but does anyone know when we'll have the Powerboost (http://www.comcast.com/powerboost/) feature activated?

Comcast must be genuinely concerned about FIOS now.My peak sustained rates went from 6Mb/s to 8Mb/s, now I know why. However, I haven't see the monster numbers they claim in the article. I should check my modem... Motorola Surfboards from a couple years ago or so ok?

larry

Addicted2HD4Now
06-28-06, 11:03 AM
so does Excite.

I just noticed that zap2it also has listings for MHD. Oh well.

tcable
06-28-06, 01:16 PM
I just got powerboost too. I'm trying to figure out what it is- better compression of TCP/IP?

toots
06-28-06, 02:43 PM
I doubt it. I think they're just allowing a higher download rate, but throttling it down after you've transfered N bytes.

elbig
06-29-06, 08:03 AM
I just got 10 mb/s. Wow. Although I ran it several times and got 9.7, 8.5 and 6.1 so it does vary. Maybe I used up my "bonus" bandwidth. Who knows?

ScoopsHD
06-29-06, 11:16 AM
I just tested my speed at http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and used the NY link. I hit 16043 kbps (16 mbps) on the downstream. One of my friends who works in the headends gave me a brief rundown of how it works.

You can get up to 16mbps if there is enough available bandwidth on the downstream for your node. If large portion of people are all downloading on your node, the powerboost might not be able to give you the full 16mbps. While he wasn't sure, I think that its also limited to a certain amount of bits downloaded before it drops you back to your normal speed as I can't seem to get sustained rates of 16mbps for too long.

I live up in NH and not a very populated area, so I might not have as many people to contend with as those of you in more populous cities.

No worries though, Powerboost is only a temporary solution to the Fios competition. With DOCSIS 3.0 cable companies will be able to combine downstream frequencies together to off much much higher bandwidth... some say up to 100mbps.

toots
06-29-06, 11:53 AM
Yeah, the great thing about this is that bandwidth has only increased since I first signed up with MediaOne years back, and the bandwidth increases have far outpaced the price increases for the data service, so this is still one place where Comcast has been a bargain.

Of course, FIOS will just push them higher, but no one here's complaining about that.

Gabatta
06-29-06, 02:52 PM
Powerboost has been launched in the NE region since June 1st. I do not however see the doubling of speed.

My connection is supposed to be faster. Why am I not surprised that it is not?

Marketing gimics...they're CoMcAsTiC!

YesJim
06-30-06, 10:26 AM
I doubt it. I think they're just allowing a higher download rate, but throttling it down after you've transfered N bytes.

[off-topic]

I'm almost positive Comcast is doing what we do with our corporate WAN - packet shaping using devices from vendors like Packeteer. In it's essence, it's a pacifier to make you feel like things are going faster. Data is categorized, so streaming, downloading, ftp, etc have different priorities. When you pull something that has a high priority, your packets will preempt other traffic on your loop giving you a "boost" temporarily. At least that's what it's supposed to do. They also limit certain types of traffic, and I've heard that movie downloads from bit-torrent (I think that's the place) are throttled way down to prevent congestion.

We use it so email data doesn't get backlogged behind someone watching some non-work related crap like TubeTime streams, and then having some big-wig call complaining about poor email transmission performance. :rolleyes: I'm sure there's much more info on the Comcast HSI thread and I won't post any more on this subject here.

Back to TV! I suppose there's not much to talk about since we just got 3 (well 2 1/2) new HD channels and it'll be a while before we see any new developments. Anyone hear of plans to start broadcasting in 1080p? :eek:

toots
06-30-06, 10:32 AM
Well, I guess I'm ok with that, since most of my downloads are just software and updates.

(Although, I wish it'd give me the boost for the duration of a full Knoppix DVD ISO, but I s'pose that's just way too much to ask for.)

chitchatjf
06-30-06, 03:55 PM
As for HSI I believe once Fios gets into more areas, Comcast will speed up to compete.

going to TV, something tells me more will be on the horizon within the next few months.

YesJim
06-30-06, 04:08 PM
As for HSI I believe once Fios gets into more areas, Comcast will speed up to compete.

going to TV, something tells me more will be on the horizon within the next few months.

I was just reading about some interesting legislation that Verizon is pushing and I'm sure Comcast would happily ride along. Apparently Verizon has gone to the legislature (although I'm not certain whether they're talking about state or federal) basically looking for a "global" licensing agreement that will allow them to be exempt from each town's cable by-laws. Basically they wouldn't have to work out a licensing agreement with each town and can ram home a standard package everywhere. It's stalled Verizon TV contracts in both my town and a neighboring town. No matter to me since I'm in a development with underground wiring so the big V won't be an option for who knows how long.

The local cable commission is assuming that if the law is passed, Comcast will be quick to follow. They're worried it will end up being worse for the towns, since part of the deal requires Comcast to provide infrastructure for local broadcasting from the local high and middle schools and for $$ to support a local broadcasting studio. On the other hand, it does seem archaic that media companies need to negotiate service contracts on a town by town basis...

chaz01
06-30-06, 05:08 PM
Back to TV! I suppose there's not much to talk about since we just got 3 (well 2 1/2) new HD channels and it'll be a while before we see any new developments. Anyone hear of plans to start broadcasting in 1080p? :eek:

What are the three? Found espn2 and mhd. What am i missing?

Thanks.

MickeyGee
06-30-06, 05:37 PM
What are the three? Found espn2 and mhd. What am i missing?

Thanks.
I assume he meant full-time NESN-HD (851) also.

Mickey

chaz01
06-30-06, 06:14 PM
I assume he meant full-time NESN-HD (851) also.

Mickey

OK, thanks. Must be the 1/2...

YesJim
06-30-06, 09:49 PM
OK, thanks. Must be the 1/2...

Yep. Exactly what I meant.

bicker1
07-01-06, 04:18 AM
it does seem archaic that media companies need to negotiate service contracts on a town by town basis...
Especially since satellite services don't have to.

JDLIVE
07-01-06, 08:06 AM
Anyone hear of plans to start broadcasting in 1080p? :eek:

Won't happen for a long, long time, if ever. Maybe when MPEG4 compression is the norm we'll see it, but probably over IPTV or some other network based streaming/switching, not "broadcast" services.

chitchatjf
07-02-06, 01:57 PM
OK anyone noticed vertual channels 886-894?
They seem to be links to certsain On Demand areas,mostly stuff with informercials (IMHO a waste of bandwidth)

Why are these in our beloved 800 range? I would have used those slots for Voom channels.

noreaster0
07-02-06, 10:30 PM
[QUOTE=chitchatjf]OK anyone noticed virtual channels 886-894?
They seem to be links to certain On Demand areas,mostly stuff with informercials (IMHO a waste of bandwidth)

These channels probably use the same On Demand capacity that we use when tuning to channel 1 and may be express links to these infomercials. I'd guess most people wouldn't dig down through multiple pages of menus just for a sales pitch, so these new channels get the curious looking with just a couple clicks.

chitchatjf
07-03-06, 02:31 PM
Next HD channel for Comcast in Boston market: NFL Network full time.

I also see it moving to an "ehnhanced " or extended basic tier,perhaps switching tiers with ESPN Classic.

epie
07-03-06, 02:57 PM
Just wondering of otheres have noticed that for the last couple of weeks, "The Office" is not being shown in HD or widescreen for that matter on NBC 810. What's going on?

sugatam
07-03-06, 04:19 PM
I'd appreciate a bit of help from the regulars here.

For the previous 2 years, I've had the (avs special ;)) basic + digital classic package, along with the 6412 dvr box. As we all know, that used to give us every non-premium HD channel in comcast's lineup. Earlier this month, I call to get a cable card installed, and after two tech visits, my cablecard became functional.

Anyhow, I look at my latest bill, and find out that I have been charged for expanded basic as well. The CSR told me that all HD channels (except locals) are part of expanded basic now, and that I will lose them if I downgrade to basic+DC. I escalated to a supervisor and got the same answer. Can anyone give me the real scoop here? If true, I'm not going to shell out the additional charge for DC, since I only watch the HD channels.

L Supreme
07-03-06, 05:24 PM
I'd appreciate a bit of help from the regulars here.

For the previous 2 years, I've had the (avs special ;)) basic + digital classic package, along with the 6412 dvr box. As we all know, that used to give us every non-premium HD channel in comcast's lineup. Earlier this month, I call to get a cable card installed, and after two tech visits, my cablecard became functional.

Anyhow, I look at my latest bill, and find out that I have been charged for expanded basic as well. The CSR told me that all HD channels (except locals) are part of expanded basic now, and that I will lose them if I downgrade to basic+DC. I escalated to a supervisor and got the same answer. Can anyone give me the real scoop here? If true, I'm not going to shell out the additional charge for DC, since I only watch the HD channels.


Here's the breakdown

For Local HD Channels 802, 804, 805, 807, 825, 838 & 856 (channel #'s may differ from area to area) the minimum you need is basic.

For ESPNHD, DISCOVERYHD, TNTHD, INHD1 & INHD2 the minimum you need to have Digital Classic

For NESN HD the minimum you need is Expanded

For MHD & ESPN2HD the minimum is EXpanded + Classic

For the premiums you need to subscribe to them.




In your case if you removed classic you would lose these channels, ESPNHD, DISCOVERYHD, TNTHD, INHD1, INHD2, MHD & ESPN2HD

sugatam
07-03-06, 06:35 PM
Here's the breakdown


In your case if you removed classic you would lose these channels, ESPNHD, DISCOVERYHD, TNTHD, INHD1, INHD2, MHD & ESPN2HD

Thanks LSupreme. That was my understanding too. But I'm being told in no uncertain terms that the aforementioned channels are not part of digital classic, but expanded basic instead. I'm being pointed to the channel lineup cards as evidence.

Like I said, I've had limited basic+digital classic for two years, and getting the channels you listed. But I'm being told now that:

Basic HD channels => Limited basic
All other non-premium HD => expanded basic

Is this stuff in writing anywhere? Thanks in advance...

L Supreme
07-03-06, 06:54 PM
Is this stuff in writing anywhere? Thanks in advance...


For the HD chnls that come in classic, there is nothing written specifically saying it needs classic. All it says is that a minimum digital package is required.

chitchatjf
07-03-06, 10:23 PM
In many areas Expanded and classic would be needed to get ANY HD even the HD locals

Liker I had said before Here is how I would do it.

HD locals would remain part of limited basic.

TNT,ESPN,ESPN2,and NESN would require extended.

MHD,Discovery HD,UniversalHD INHD1 and INHD2 would require digital classic

HDNet and HDNet Movies would require the preimere pack

jusdt to be on the safe side i recnetly upgraded to enhanced cable (extended with a box)

Naylia
07-04-06, 10:29 AM
Thanks LSupreme. That was my understanding too. But I'm being told in no uncertain terms that the aforementioned channels are not part of digital classic, but expanded basic instead. I'm being pointed to the channel lineup cards as evidence.

Like I said, I've had limited basic+digital classic for two years, and getting the channels you listed. But I'm being told now that:

Basic HD channels => Limited basic
All other non-premium HD => expanded basic

Is this stuff in writing anywhere? Thanks in advance...

If you're willing to live without MHD+ESPN2+NESN just call and get a regular service rep and tell her/him you only want Basic+Digital Classic and see what happens when the change goes through.

impetigo
07-04-06, 06:14 PM
In many areas Expanded and classic would be needed to get ANY HD even the HD locals

Liker I had said before Here is how I would do it.

HD locals would remain part of limited basic.

TNT,ESPN,ESPN2,and NESN would require extended.

MHD,Discovery HD,UniversalHD INHD1 and INHD2 would require digital classic

HDNet and HDNet Movies would require the preimere pack

jusdt to be on the safe side i recnetly upgraded to enhanced cable (extended with a box)

Hi. Just moved to Boston and need to set up my comcast soon. I looked on Comcast's site, and they list for non-digital cable tv: "basic" and "standard." Is "standard" what you are referring to as "extended?" Getting the local HD stations along with ESPN 1/2 would be good enough for me, so all I need to subscribe to is the "standard" cable? My tv is a Sharp LC-37D90U that has NTSC/ATSC/QAM tuners but no cable card, so I guess I need an HDTV cable box? Thanks if anyone can let me know.

Comcast lists under "digital classic" the following:

Comcast's Digital Classic package includes all of the following:
* Digital Classic Channels
* Digital Music Channels
* Limited Basic Channels
* Expanded Basic Channels
* Interactive Onscreen Program Guide
* Access to ON DEMAND movies and free programming!

chitchatjf
07-04-06, 07:55 PM
Hi. Just moved to Boston and need to set up my comcast soon. I looked on Comcast's site, and they list for non-digital cable tv: "basic" and "standard." Is "standard" what you are referring to as "extended?" Getting the local HD stations along with ESPN 1/2 would be good enough for me, so all I need to subscribe to is the "standard" cable? My tv is a Sharp LC-37D90U that has NTSC/ATSC/QAM tuners but no cable card, so I guess I need an HDTV cable box? Thanks if anyone can let me know.

Comcast lists under "digital classic" the following:

Comcast's Digital Classic package includes all of the following:
* Digital Classic Channels
* Digital Music Channels
* Limited Basic Channels
* Expanded Basic Channels
* Interactive Onscreen Program Guide
* Access to ON DEMAND movies and free programming!

Limited Basic runs around $10 a month and consists of NECN,CN8,the PEG access channels and nlocal broadcast channels INCLUDING HD)

"standard" IS Extended. (Well extended WITH limited)

You can get Limited basic and digital classic withOUT having to get extended basic. If you are willing to stick with JUST ESPN1 in HD this could save you money,but if you MUST have ESPN2HD or NESNHD,then you will have to get the full Enhanced cable package. (Enchanced meaning standard cable with a box)

Ferrari328
07-05-06, 08:21 AM
Does anybody else have a sound/video sync problem when watching Jeopardy? This seems to be air/cable/cableHD. Anything I can do about it?

/Peter

grampy
07-05-06, 10:17 AM
Does anybody else have a sound/video sync problem when watching Jeopardy? This seems to be air/cable/cableHD. Anything I can do about it?

/Peter
Robert Yankowitz, RF Systems Manager, CBS Boston (owner of ch. 4 & 38) is a member of this forum, maybe you could send him a message? His member name is RYankowitz.

YesJim
07-05-06, 11:25 AM
Robert Yankowitz, RF Systems Manager, CBS Boston (owner of ch. 4 & 38) is a member of this forum, maybe you could send him a message? His member name is RYankowitz.

Yeah, and while you're at it, gripe about the lack of HD for the Esplanade concert last night. What a waste of what would have looked and sounded great with a nice HD dolby digital broadcast!

bruman
07-05-06, 11:59 AM
yes! can someone explain to me why the fireworks are still not in High Def yet ??????

if there is one thing that was meant for HD it was fireworks. every year since HD I have been waiting for it in HD. I have to goto 882 for the fireworks in HD, I think its in New York or something. really cool!!!! PBS has some too from W.DC

I dont understand it. they have the cameras why not put it in HD ? you cant see anything but a blur on SD channels when they show fireworks. its a big event, you would think they would have done it this year finally. but no! still not yet!

bicker1
07-05-06, 01:06 PM
This question came up in another forum this morning. The simple answer is that there is no reason to expect that mainstream broadcasters will uniformly adopt the newest technology until the mainstream viewers uniformly adopt the newest technology. Perhaps the broadcasters could ride just ahead of the curve, but SDTVs still far out-number HDTVs.

PooperScooper
07-05-06, 02:05 PM
but HDTVs still far out-number SDTVs. I think you meant the other way around. :)

larry

bicker1
07-05-06, 04:11 PM
I sure did! :)

Kaiser-Soze
07-05-06, 06:25 PM
at the VERY least, they could have put Black side-bars on the picture instead of Grey...

I made sure to send an email to Liberty Mutual thanking them for sponsering the fireworks portion commercial free. I was Livid in years past when CBS would put in commercials in the middle of the fireworks display.

impetigo
07-06-06, 03:12 AM
Limited Basic runs around $10 a month and consists of NECN,CN8,the PEG access channels and nlocal broadcast channels INCLUDING HD)

"standard" IS Extended. (Well extended WITH limited)

You can get Limited basic and digital classic withOUT having to get extended basic. If you are willing to stick with JUST ESPN1 in HD this could save you money,but if you MUST have ESPN2HD or NESNHD,then you will have to get the full Enhanced cable package. (Enchanced meaning standard cable with a box)

Thanks for replying. Few questions though.

I want to get the channels that standard/expanded cable gives you (e.g. nickalodeon, tbs, usa, scifi, comedycentral, etc.), as well as the broadcast HDTV stations (e.g. NBC/ABC/CBS/UPN/WB/Fox) as well as ESPN1HD.

My tv is a Sharp Aquos LCD (37D90U) that has a QAM/clear tuner but no cable card.

So, in order to get these channels (standard cable SD channels plus broadcast and ESPN in HD), what do I need to get?

Just standard cable? Will the QAM tuner give me the broadcast HD and ESPN1HD channels? Or do I need a HD box or digital classic as well?

I'm still unclear exactly what I need so any info would be great. Thanks!!



Basically, the channels I want are the ones listed in "standard cable" (e.g. expanded), including stuff like TBS, comedy central, USA, etc., as well as the broadcast HDTV stations (NBC, ABC, CBS, UPN, WB, Fox) and ESPN1HD.

To get those, all I would need is "standard cable?" I would only need to get "digital classic" if I wanted ESPN2HD or NESNHD?

And would my tv (Sharp LCD 37D90U with QAM tuner) require an HD box?

chitchatjf
07-06-06, 04:26 AM
Thanks for replying. Few questions though.

I want to get the channels that standard/expanded cable gives you (e.g. nickalodeon, tbs, usa, scifi, comedycentral, etc.), as well as the broadcast HDTV stations (e.g. NBC/ABC/CBS/UPN/WB/Fox) as well as ESPN1HD.

My tv is a Sharp Aquos LCD (37D90U) that has a QAM/clear tuner but no cable card.

So, in order to get these channels (standard cable SD channels plus broadcast and ESPN in HD), what do I need to get?

Just standard cable? Will the QAM tuner give me the broadcast HD and ESPN1HD channels? Or do I need a HD box or digital classic as well?

I'm still unclear exactly what I need so any info would be great. Thanks!!



Basically, the channels I want are the ones listed in "standard cable" (e.g. expanded), including stuff like TBS, comedy central, USA, etc., as well as the broadcast HDTV stations (NBC, ABC, CBS, UPN, WB, Fox) and ESPN1HD.

To get those, all I would need is "standard cable?" I would only need to get "digital classic" if I wanted ESPN2HD or NESNHD?

And would my tv (Sharp LCD 37D90U with QAM tuner) require an HD box?

The offical rulings on packaghes needed to get the HD channels are:

Locals (PBS,CBS,ABC (5 & 9),NBC,Fox,CW,WSBK) =JUST LIMTED Basic : No box is needed.

TNT-HD,UHD,ESPN1-HD,INHD1,and 2 = Digital Classic

ESPN2 and NESN HD = Enchanced cable (Standard cable plus box)

MHD = Enchanced cable PLUS Digital Classic.

Your best bet would be Enchanced cable with HD box plus Digital Classic. ESPN1 is encrypted and needs a box or Cable card for reception

I would recommend that you get the DVR as well.

Since your set has an HSDMI input,mention this. Comcast will most likely toss in an HDMI cable.

bicker1
07-06-06, 06:30 AM
Comcast will most likely toss in an HDMI cable.I thought that was rather generous of them!

new2hometheater
07-07-06, 08:42 AM
Cable Box Options for Hi Def TV's

I've got a 3 year old 5100 and have recently upgraded my 2nd TV, a CRT to a 1080P flat screen with DVI and HDMI ports. I don't want a second DVR, but what are my options and advantages to getting Comcast to get me a new box? My area has completed the ADS transition.

Lodef
07-07-06, 02:01 PM
Cable Box Options for Hi Def TV's

I've got a 3 year old 5100 and have recently upgraded my 2nd TV, a CRT to a 1080P flat screen with DVI and HDMI ports. I don't want a second DVR, but what are my options and advantages to getting Comcast to get me a new box? My area has completed the ADS transition.

Last I heard they are still only allowing 1 HD dvr or Box per household and there is a waiting list if you want a second unit. However if you are just switching out your old unit for a new one they might still honor that even though you would have 2 units in your home. Maybe L Supreme can confirm if this policy is still in place.

L Supreme
07-07-06, 02:36 PM
Last I heard they are still only allowing 1 HD dvr or Box per household and there is a waiting list if you want a second unit. However if you are just switching out your old unit for a new one they might still honor that even though you would have 2 units in your home. Maybe L Supreme can confirm if this policy is still in place.


No that has been removed since Feb. There no longer is a limit on boxes per household.

bicker1
07-07-06, 03:28 PM
They are charging more for the second box than for the first box though.

MickeyGee
07-07-06, 04:19 PM
They are charging more for the second box than for the first box though.
Yes, they did that to me. I call it the Comcastic Multi-Box Reverse Discount.

Mickey

toots
07-07-06, 04:46 PM
Oh, that's good.

I'm gonna use that.

impetigo
07-07-06, 06:41 PM
Your best bet would be Enchanced cable with HD box plus Digital Classic.

Thanks for your help! I just ordered the digital classic (includes enhanced/standard cable) with the digital decoding box and HD box. Can't wait to see it on my new Sharp 37D90U!

bicker1
07-08-06, 07:30 AM
Yeah, they do charge more for the second box, but that's far better than not permitting customers to have a second box.

chitchatjf
07-08-06, 04:47 PM
the second box surcharge is a program duplication fee,the costs of having all programming of the primary box,including movie packages, on a second box.

My beef is charging $5 a month for the DCT700 which only costs them around $30 or so.

new2hometheater
07-09-06, 07:19 AM
5100 or other options?

Just to be clear here, I don't want a DVR. I have a 2.5 year old 5100 and am wondering what my options are now that the cable system has completed the ADS transition. Do the newer models run any cooler? I will hook it to my 1080P LCD moniter.

Lodef
07-09-06, 09:59 AM
5100 or other options?

Just to be clear here, I don't want a DVR. I have a 2.5 year old 5100 and am wondering what my options are now that the cable system has completed the ADS transition. Do the newer models run any cooler? I will hook it to my 1080P LCD moniter.

What does ADS have to do with what box you use? As long as the STB is digital you will get a better picture on all the SD channels regardless. I would think HD is what you are interested in for your 1080P monitor and right now I believe they have 3 models ( 6200, 6412, 3412 ) and 2 of them are DVR's.

argusarray
07-11-06, 11:34 AM
sorry to jump in here, but I have a similar question.

so just to confirm, it is possible to get Limited Basic (~$10/mo) with locals in HD and "digital classic" (+~$6/mo) (to get ESPN) + HD tuner box (~$10/mo). So for $26/mo I would get HD local channels and all the encrypted HD except for ESPN2/NESN/MTV?

does anyone know if this is eligible for the "dish buy back" ($25/mo credit)? It sounds like the only requirement is to sign up for digital classic?

Thanks,

-Argus

Limited Basic runs around $10 a month and consists of NECN,CN8,the PEG access channels and nlocal broadcast channels INCLUDING HD)

"standard" IS Extended. (Well extended WITH limited)

You can get Limited basic and digital classic withOUT having to get extended basic. If you are willing to stick with JUST ESPN1 in HD this could save you money,but if you MUST have ESPN2HD or NESNHD,then you will have to get the full Enhanced cable package. (Enchanced meaning standard cable with a box)

chitchatjf
07-12-06, 12:50 AM
sorry to jump in here, but I have a similar question.

so just to confirm, it is possible to get Limited Basic (~$10/mo) with locals in HD and "digital classic" (+~$6/mo) (to get ESPN) + HD tuner box (~$10/mo). So for $26/mo I would get HD local channels and all the encrypted HD except for ESPN2/NESN/MTV?

does anyone know if this is eligible for the "dish buy back" ($25/mo credit)? It sounds like the only requirement is to sign up for digital classic?

Thanks,

-Argus

To be honest I AM NOT SURE NOW.

They may require enchanced cable for new subscribers to get HD channels above local broadcasts.

Dish buy back I think would require extended basic .

new2hometheater
07-12-06, 09:17 AM
What does ADS have to do with what box you use? As long as the STB is digital you will get a better picture on all the SD channels regardless. I would think HD is what you are interested in for your 1080P monitor and right now I believe they have 3 models ( 6200, 6412, 3412 ) and 2 of them are DVR's.

ADS matters because the newer, smaller Moto boxes come with only a digital tuner that won't work with analog signals. They however don't have DVI/HDMI out. It looks like the Moto 6200
http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/dct6200/

is the only non DVR, option if you want a digital out signal (DVI). I miss typed when I previously called the model 5100

Chris Beveridge
07-14-06, 12:42 PM
Here's a question I hope someone can answer; I had a new box installed this week and it doesn't seem to be able to record anything. Guide data is woefully pathetic as well as it seems to *lose* it. I had data for today this morning, I come back at noon and it's all TBA. It records a show I set it for but only for one or two minutes.

bicker1
07-14-06, 02:00 PM
If you have a power outage, that would account for lost program data.

nobail
07-14-06, 02:38 PM
Hi Folks,

I am sure this has been addressed before, but I have the Moto HD/DVR tuner box. It has the following issues. For one, it is loud, very loud. Much more loud than my HTPC. In my house, we call it the jet engine. It seems to rev up and down, etc. I am not sure yet if it is the fan or disks, but it is very annoying. The second thing is that sometimes, the picture does not seem right. Last nights RedSox game was very choppy. Almost like you are watching something under a strobe light (although a very quick one).

My question is, is this just the nature of the beast, or should I request a different one from Comcast?

Regards
-Hal

ScoopsHD
07-14-06, 04:46 PM
Hi Folks,

I am sure this has been addressed before, but I have the Moto HD/DVR tuner box. It has the following issues. For one, it is loud, very loud. Much more loud than my HTPC. In my house, we call it the jet engine. It seems to rev up and down, etc. I am not sure yet if it is the fan or disks, but it is very annoying. The second thing is that sometimes, the picture does not seem right. Last nights RedSox game was very choppy. Almost like you are watching something under a strobe light (although a very quick one).

My question is, is this just the nature of the beast, or should I request a different one from Comcast?

Regards
-Hal

Is it a 3412? If so, I get the strobing effect on my 3412 as well. I'm going to be swapping for a 6412, even though that has its problems as well. But the strobing effect is one of the worse problems I've had and can make it very annoying to watch TV.

As for noise... you'll get that no matter what DVR you have. The Moto boxes don't spin down their hard drives even when powered off. And they have fans in them that run constantly to cool them down.

Kaiser-Soze
07-14-06, 07:13 PM
Is it a 3412? If so, I get the strobing effect on my 3412 as well. I'm going to be swapping for a 6412, even though that has its problems as well. But the strobing effect is one of the worse problems I've had and can make it very annoying to watch TV.

As for noise... you'll get that no matter what DVR you have. The Moto boxes don't spin down their hard drives even when powered off. And they have fans in them that run constantly to cool them down.

I think the phase 3 runs quieter than the phase 1 or 2. Some people have gone through 2-4 P2's before findin a quiet one. Also make sure that its properly vented on all sides so that the heated air can easily escape.

mgpt6
07-14-06, 11:01 PM
The Adelphia merger should be final on 7-31-06. Any ideas how it may impact HD channels in the last half of 06 and going into 2007? Comcast will own Mass, NH, most of Conn , and Vt. now

chr31ter
07-15-06, 01:11 AM
so just to confirm, it is possible to get Limited Basic (~$10/mo) with locals in HD and "digital classic" (+~$6/mo) (to get ESPN) + HD tuner box (~$10/mo). So for $26/mo I would get HD local channels and all the encrypted HD except for ESPN2/NESN/MTV?
For right now... yes. I wouldn't count on it being that way forever, though.

does anyone know if this is eligible for the "dish buy back" ($25/mo credit)? It sounds like the only requirement is to sign up for digital classic?
Nope. Gotta have Enhanced Cable plus a minimum of Digital Plus to qualify for the Dish Buy Back.

The Adelphia merger should be final on 7-31-06. Any ideas how it may impact HD channels in the last half of 06 and going into 2007? Comcast will own Mass, NH, most of Conn , and Vt. now
There will be upgrades. The Digital Voice product is doing too well for the company not to roll it out everwhere they can. Comcast has six months after the official close of the sale to operate as Adelphia, and I imagine they'll take every last day. The guess here is that when they flip the switch, they'll want people who are Adelphia customers now to notice the difference.

chitchatjf
07-15-06, 09:11 AM
1)The next HD channel will probobly be NFL Network HD full time. Also I have reason to believe the SD feed may go to enchanced cable (expanded) but stay within the digital realm (ala Movieplex)

2)Adelphia systems locally will continue to carry HDNet,and this may be a way for Comcast to finally get it on our systems.( Most likely on 883 and 884.)

3)WSBK MAY still yet end up as the Boston My Network TV affilate as they are the only REAL choice for HD primetime clearance.

4)although this may be an SD prediction as opposed to an HD prediction,AS WLVI starts The Tube on its DT2 channel,Comcast will be picking it up.

JDLIVE
07-15-06, 12:02 PM
The Adelphia merger should be final on 7-31-06. Any ideas how it may impact HD channels in the last half of 06 and going into 2007? Comcast will own Mass, NH, most of Conn , and Vt. now

I'm guessing any effect will only be for the legacy Adelphia customers, they may keep some channels that are "grandfathered" in to the existing contracts, but I wouldn't expect any of that to affect the existing Comcast base.

MickeyGee
07-16-06, 07:47 AM
...2)Adelphia systems locally will continue to carry HDNet,and this may be a way for Comcast to finally get it on our systems.( Most likely on 883 and 884.)...
The Adelphia customers may be able to keep HDnet for awhile, but the only way for Comcast to add HDnet nationally is to agree to pay the fee that they have been so far unwilling to pay.

Mickey

chitchatjf
07-16-06, 09:50 AM
From what I have heard INHD2 is merging with iNHD on July 31st. Not happening

Mark Cuban is talking with Comcast again. IS happening!

I am going out of town for a week or so next week,and when I get back home,I will not be surprise to see HDNEt on 882 (and HDNEt movies on 883) :)

not that soon but most likely by the end of the year. Assuming INHD2 remians on,I would see 883 for HDNet and 884 for HDNet movies

A more likely scenerio is NFL Network full time.

There is also the possibility of Voom coming this fall. This is also a possibility

DaveFi
07-16-06, 08:16 PM
A lot of new channels here listed in the upper 800s all labeled "Interactive Service"

886 ENT
887 SHOP
888 SLT
889 AUTO
890 IAD21
891 IAD22
892 IAD23
893 IAD24

Anyone have any ideas on what these might be?

chaz01
07-16-06, 08:50 PM
A lot of new channels here listed in the upper 800s all labeled "Interactive Service"

886 ENT
887 SHOP
888 SLT
889 AUTO
890 IAD21
891 IAD22
892 IAD23
893 IAD24

Anyone have any ideas on what these might be?

Pay Per View?

chitchatjf
07-16-06, 09:21 PM
A lot of new channels here listed in the upper 800s all labeled "Interactive Service"

886 ENT
887 SHOP
888 SLT
889 AUTO
890 IAD21
891 IAD22
892 IAD23
893 IAD24

Anyone have any ideas on what these might be?

special on demand channels heading tword a specific menu. They are probobly there for the same reason as 845 (a remapping of Weatherscan right in the middle of the HD band) otr channel 990 or the fact they still have a placeholder for channel 232 Ovation which seems to be still offer5ed to those who have gga grandfathered Premiere pack.

kenvt
07-16-06, 10:14 PM
special on demand channels heading tword a specific menu. They are probobly there for the same reason as 845 (a remapping of Weatherscan right in the middle of the HD band) otr channel 990 or the fact they still have a placeholder for channel 232 Ovation which seems to be still offer5ed to those who have gga grandfathered Premiere pack.

These are mostly CRAP on demand channels, mostly shopping on demand. I bet these comanies paid Comcast a nice price to be listed here. I avoid these like the plague.

-Ken

chitchatjf
07-17-06, 02:05 AM
These are mostly CRAP on demand channels, mostly shopping on demand. I bet these comanies paid Comcast a nice price to be listed here. I avoid these like the plague.

-Ken

and they don't belong in our beloved 800 range.

Naylia
07-17-06, 09:26 AM
I don't mind the weather thrown in (although I wish they'd make it an HD weather image)...get rid of the CRAP on demand in our HD area.

A10Fan
07-17-06, 09:51 AM
I really hope that Comcast gives me some sort of discount. I missed out on Entourage last night because service was out from 6 pm until I went to bed at like 1 am. It was limited to the Somerville/Medford area from what I could tell, but VERY annoying. It's not the same watching it on demand in all its 480i glory :(

ScoopsHD
07-17-06, 10:47 AM
I really hope that Comcast gives me some sort of discount. I missed out on Entourage last night because service was out from 6 pm until I went to bed at like 1 am. It was limited to the Somerville/Medford area from what I could tell, but VERY annoying. It's not the same watching it on demand in all its 480i glory :(

Did you call in to customer service and report the problem at the time? If not, you likely won't get credit.

chitchatjf
07-17-06, 03:11 PM
I don't mind the weather thrown in (although I wish they'd make it an HD weather image)...get rid of the CRAP on demand in our HD area.

I LIKE weatherscan but it is also mapped to 245,AND it is the same channel.

Naylia
07-17-06, 04:19 PM
I don't leave the 800s anymore, so I have no clue what's going on in the rest of the lineup :)

Rob O
07-18-06, 12:36 PM
I don't leave the 800s anymore, so I have no clue what's going on in the rest of the lineup :)
You said it! You mean there's programing outside the 800's? :eek:

If the channel is not a three digit # starting with an 8 then chances are I'm not watching it anytime soon. Too bad I have to pay for all the other crap to get it, such is life. I guess thats the price we pay for technology.

bocmir
07-18-06, 09:33 PM
Nevermind.. fixed. :)

Lodef
07-22-06, 08:03 AM
Awfully quiet around here lately. Hey L Supreme anything new coming soon. We need something to talk about. Thanks in advance!

stephenju
07-22-06, 08:27 AM
Ya. News about NFL HD and Food TV HD would be great.

chitchatjf
07-22-06, 10:52 AM
I believe a condition of carrying the regular season games (live and replay) on NFL may be to move the SD channel to a lower tier,perhaps extended basic.

I believe Comcast will be doing that as well as get NFL HD. :)

impetigo
07-22-06, 03:18 PM
sorry to jump in here, but I have a similar question.

so just to confirm, it is possible to get Limited Basic (~$10/mo) with locals in HD and "digital classic" (+~$6/mo) (to get ESPN) + HD tuner box (~$10/mo). So for $26/mo I would get HD local channels and all the encrypted HD except for ESPN2/NESN/MTV?

does anyone know if this is eligible for the "dish buy back" ($25/mo credit)? It sounds like the only requirement is to sign up for digital classic?

Thanks,

-Argus

When I checked with Comcast, it shows digital classic as costing ~$59/mo, otherwise I would also jump on your $26/mo configuration to get the local HD stations plus ESPN HD. I'm a new subscriber though, and ended up only getting limited basic (so I could get cable internet).

impetigo
07-22-06, 03:55 PM
I just hooked up limited basic to my Sharp 37D90U LCD tv, and I noticed that a bunch of "digital" channels come in, but I have no idea what channels they are since there is no station/programming info (as opposed to OTA HD channels). Can anyone list the broadcast HD stations (e.g. 80.1 for ABC, etc.)? It would be a great help, thanks in advance.

chitchatjf
07-22-06, 05:20 PM
When I checked with Comcast, it shows digital classic as costing ~$59/mo, otherwise I would also jump on your $26/mo configuration to get the local HD stations plus ESPN HD. I'm a new subscriber though, and ended up only getting limited basic (so I could get cable internet).

HD lineup and what is needed to get each channel:

These channels require LIMITED Basic:

802 WGBH-DT (PBS HD channel)
804 WBZ-DT (CBS) *
805 WCVB-DT (ABC) *
807 WHDH-DT (NBC) *
809 WMUR-DT (ABC) *
825 WFXT-DT (Fox) *
838 WSBK-DT *
856 WLVI-DT (CW) *

These channels require Digital Classic

833 TNT-HD *
839 Discovery Home theatre HD
846 Universal HD
849 ESPN HD *
881 INHD
882 INHD2

These channels require enchanced cable (Standard cable plus digital box)

850 ESPN 2 HD *
851 NESN HD *

This channel requires enhanced cable AND digital Classic

828 MHD

These channels are premium services and require a subscription to the underlying preimum channel:

868 Cinemax HD *
870 HBO HD *
875 Starz HD *
877 Showtime HD *

Channels that are * are simucasts of SD channels and may not be in HD all the time.


Call comcast to get the Digital classic and limited basic package.

stephenju
07-22-06, 06:14 PM
825 has been on and off for the past 20 minutes. Anyone else seeing this?

YesJim
07-22-06, 06:16 PM
825 has been on and off for the past 20 minutes. Anyone else seeing this?

Yep. The pic freezes for a while then comes back.

Kaiser-Soze
07-22-06, 09:23 PM
The few times I tried to catch the Sox on 825, it simply wouldnt tune to it or give "... Available shortly"

Chris Beveridge
07-22-06, 09:28 PM
825 was offline a bit earlier tonight, haven't checked it recently

825 sucks in general though with it being out of synch all the time. Between that and the stuttering on 031, it's been frustrating.

DaveFi
07-22-06, 11:16 PM
When I checked with Comcast, it shows digital classic as costing ~$59/mo, otherwise I would also jump on your $26/mo configuration to get the local HD stations plus ESPN HD. I'm a new subscriber though, and ended up only getting limited basic (so I could get cable internet).No, he's right. Here in the Boston area Digital Classic is only $6. All you need to get ESPN-HD, DISC-HD and TNT-HD, UHD and INHD1/2 are Basic Service (you get the HD locals thrown in) a HD box (either tuner or PVR) and Digital Classic.

Costs me around $30+/mo w/DVR.

chitchatjf
07-23-06, 08:28 AM
No, he's right. Here in the Boston area Digital Classic is only $6. All you need to get ESPN-HD, DISC-HD and TNT-HD, UHD and INHD1/2 are Basic Service (you get the HD locals thrown in) a HD box (either tuner or PVR) and Digital Classic.

Costs me around $30+/mo w/DVR.

The big question is how much longer this will remain available?

I recently got Extended turned back ON. I like having those channels again though.

thetman
07-23-06, 10:07 AM
hello all, seeing how there are about 330 pages of this thread- please forgive me if I didn't read through all of them to look for an answer- but I have never had HD programming -the comcast guy is coming wendsday to hook it up- but I went onto the comcast site to seew what programs were available to me in HD mansfield-norton area-but I wasn't impressed with the selection- what can I expect to recieve as far as the number of channels I will get -currently the only movie channel I subscribe to is HBO- but I didn;t see the WB for example on there- and Iknow they broadcast shows like smallville in HD for example. so its safe ot assume just becasue a network is showing HD doesn't mean I will be able to recieve it? thanks
thetman

ManWithAPlan
07-23-06, 10:14 AM
Thank God today's Sox game is NOT on FOX, that miserable excuse for a Sports broadcast. The channel looked awful yesterday, and the announcers make me crazy.

We're back to good ol' NESN HD today boys, saddle up and ride...

Long live Don and Remy (and NESN's 1080i)!!!!!!!!!

bicker1
07-23-06, 11:01 AM
I went onto the comcast site to seew what programs were available to me in HD mansfield-norton area-but I wasn't impressed with the selection- what can I expect to recieve as far as the number of channels I will get
I don't know about the Mansfield-Norton area, but I'm here in Burlington: I figure about 2/3 of my actual viewing is provided in HD: HBO, Showtime, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, UPN/WB/CW, and TNT (which is doing a great job this summer with The Closer and Saved). The only networks I watch often that aren't coming to me in HD are USA, Sci-Fi, Travel, Food and FX.

thetman
07-23-06, 01:05 PM
wow, thanks bicker1, thats good news to know- I was very nervous there, but thanks for the reassurance- can't wait to see the Pats this fall.
thetman

chitchatjf
07-23-06, 04:35 PM
hello all, seeing how there are about 330 pages of this thread- please forgive me if I didn't read through all of them to look for an answer- but I have never had HD programming -the comcast guy is coming wendsday to hook it up- but I went onto the comcast site to seew what programs were available to me in HD mansfield-norton area-but I wasn't impressed with the selection- what can I expect to recieve as far as the number of channels I will get -currently the only movie channel I subscribe to is HBO- but I didn;t see the WB for example on there- and Iknow they broadcast shows like smallville in HD for example. so its safe ot assume just becasue a network is showing HD doesn't mean I will be able to recieve it? thanks
thetman


Assuming you get extended with Digital silver ,you will have 16 HD channels.

Look at the lineup one page back

Channels you do not get:

807, (NBC Boston,met through NBCHD-Providence), 809, (Duplicate ABC affilate) and perhaops 838 (WSBK,worthless once UPN disappears.)

Channel you do get:

810 WJAR-DT

Remember NESN HD is on 851 and full time,and HBO HD is on 870.

stephenju
07-23-06, 10:24 PM
825 is now completely gone for a whole day. And I just find out I lost 804, 805, 807, too. Other channels are OK. SD version of those channels are OK, too.

Did Comcast move those channels to expended? :) :)

L Supreme
07-23-06, 10:27 PM
825 is now completely gone for a whole day. And I just find out I lost 804, 805, 807, too. Other channels are OK. SD version of those channels are OK, too.

Did Comcast move those channels to expended? :) :)


Nope, I'm not getting them either must be a problem. Anyone able to get them OTA?

chitchatjf
07-23-06, 10:47 PM
They "can't" HD locals are considered part of LIMITED BAsic.

My 297,which I DO LIKE is not on either. Comcast's Boston HD antenna is down.
The analog signals they receive directly from the channels themselves through some sort of microwave. The digital (HD) signals THEY get off the air themselves.

Howwever WMUR-DT comes in though.

jaydee353
07-23-06, 11:24 PM
Nope, I'm not getting them either must be a problem. Anyone able to get them OTA?

825 is working fine in Easton.

chitchatjf
07-23-06, 11:57 PM
They are back! :)

danmar5
07-25-06, 12:51 PM
Anyone not getting channels 828 and 882? says channel will be available shortly since yesterday.

nheagle
07-25-06, 04:35 PM
just checked and they're on here

midfiman
07-26-06, 09:57 AM
For anyone who has the Motorola HD box (DCT6200) or the DVR box (DCT6208), can you please tell me if both video outputs will simultaneously output signals? The reason I'm asking is because I'd like to connect the DVI to my HD projector and the component video to my CRT HDTV and not have to go into the menu each time to select the output.

If it's not simultaneous, can someone please tell me if I CAN go into the menu to select component vs. DVI? I don't want to have to switch wires each time I want to watch something on the projector vs. the TV.

Thanks!

thetman
07-26-06, 11:50 AM
well, the comcast guy left about an hour ago and I have been fiddling around with the different channels- I have to admit that I am not blown away here- infact I am kinda dissapointed by picture quality. HDhbo and discovery look the best- but other than that-not what I've seen in stores and such. Infact he told me no cable boxes have HDMI-except maybe the dvr boxes which are newer and coming out next week or something..hu?
This can't be true. I am south of boston-I thought for sure this wasn't the case- am I wrong? Might have to go with the dish or something.
thetman

midfiman
07-26-06, 11:53 AM
well, the comcast guy left about an hour ago and I have been fiddling around with the different channels- I have to admit that I am not blown away here- infact I am kinda dissapointed by picture quality. HDhbo and discovery look the best- but other than that-not what I've seen in stores and such. Infact he told me no cable boxes have HDMI-except maybe the dvr boxes which are newer and coming out next week or something..hu?
This can't be true. I am south of boston-I thought for sure this wasn't the case- am I wrong? Might have to go with the dish or something.
thetman

I believe the 6200 series Motorola's come in a verison with and without a DVI connection. Why not just use DVI to HDMI?

Even so, why not use component? It's not like you're upconverting or anything, so component video should work fine.

ckelly5
07-26-06, 01:23 PM
well, the comcast guy left about an hour ago and I have been fiddling around with the different channels- I have to admit that I am not blown away here- infact I am kinda dissapointed by picture quality. HDhbo and discovery look the best- but other than that-not what I've seen in stores and such. Infact he told me no cable boxes have HDMI-except maybe the dvr boxes which are newer and coming out next week or something..hu?
This can't be true. I am south of boston-I thought for sure this wasn't the case- am I wrong? Might have to go with the dish or something.
thetman


My 3412 DVR has HDMI out - it's been out for a number of months.

I came from DirecTV (can't speak for Dish), and I can tell you that right now the HD channels they offer won't be much better (if any) than what you're seeing on Comcast.

thetman
07-26-06, 01:33 PM
thanks for the info-nice to know that satellite isn't much better (well as far as regretting using comcast). Is there a way to go inot the cable box and set the settings (720 or1080)? I tried looking around the menu but I did not see anything, I was just curious. I am new to all this HD stuff- I guess my expectations got the best of me.
thetman

impetigo
07-26-06, 07:50 PM
No, he's right. Here in the Boston area Digital Classic is only $6. All you need to get ESPN-HD, DISC-HD and TNT-HD, UHD and INHD1/2 are Basic Service (you get the HD locals thrown in) a HD box (either tuner or PVR) and Digital Classic.

Costs me around $30+/mo w/DVR.

I live in the theatre district near Boston Common but when I called Comcast to order digital classic they said it was around $60/mo, so I ended up just getting limited basic. I'll have to give Comcast a call and see if I can actually get it for $6 like u guys have mentioned. That would be pretty awesome.

Mallego
07-26-06, 08:13 PM
Thetman, you didn't provide much information about either the model of set top or your TV. However, to access the set top service menu, keeping the TV set on, turn off the set top and press the menu button. There you can make your choices as to how you want the set top to output.

BobColby
07-26-06, 08:22 PM
well, the comcast guy left about an hour ago and I have been fiddling around with the different channels- I have to admit that I am not blown away here- infact I am kinda dissapointed by picture quality. HDhbo and discovery look the best- but other than that-not what I've seen in stores and such. Infact he told me no cable boxes have HDMI-except maybe the dvr boxes which are newer and coming out next week or something..hu?
This can't be true. I am south of boston-I thought for sure this wasn't the case- am I wrong? Might have to go with the dish or something.
thetman

Which cables are you using? I ask because someone I know was recently hooked up with standard coax - the worst possible choice of analog video outputs (component being best). The installer claimed to have done more than 50 HD installs, unbelievable!

impetigo
07-26-06, 08:29 PM
Thanks for posting the HD channel lineup. For some reason, I only can get up to 125.1, and 800 channels do not even show up when my tv (Sharp 37D90U) searches for channels (with the QAM/clear tuner I assume). I get a few HD channels, like PBS on 84.1 and Fox on 86.1 but nothing else. I think I need to call Comcast and maybe get a cable box. :confused:

HD lineup and what is needed to get each channel:

These channels require LIMITED Basic:

802 WGBH-DT (PBS HD channel)
804 WBZ-DT (CBS) *
805 WCVB-DT (ABC) *
807 WHDH-DT (NBC) *
809 WMUR-DT (ABC) *
825 WFXT-DT (Fox) *
838 WSBK-DT *
856 WLVI-DT (CW) *

These channels require Digital Classic

833 TNT-HD *
839 Discovery Home theatre HD
846 Universal HD
849 ESPN HD *
881 INHD
882 INHD2

These channels require enchanced cable (Standard cable plus digital box)

850 ESPN 2 HD *
851 NESN HD *

This channel requires enhanced cable AND digital Classic

828 MHD

These channels are premium services and require a subscription to the underlying preimum channel:

868 Cinemax HD *
870 HBO HD *
875 Starz HD *
877 Showtime HD *

Channels that are * are simucasts of SD channels and may not be in HD all the time.


Call comcast to get the Digital classic and limited basic package.

midfiman
07-27-06, 07:53 AM
Anyone else who has the Motorola comcast HD box (either w/DVR or not), can you tell me if the box will simultaneously output video to the DVI and Component outs? Has anyone tried this? I'm hoping it does!!!

cjcote
07-27-06, 10:36 AM
Anyone else who has the Motorola comcast HD box (either w/DVR or not), can you tell me if the box will simultaneously output video to the DVI and Component outs? Has anyone tried this? I'm hoping it does!!!

I have the DVR HD box and can confirm that the box outputs video out DVI and component simultaneously. I have component going to my receiver and DVI to my TV. I did this so that the wife could easily switch the video and audio with my receiver. When I watch cable, I switch to the DVI input.

joachimm
07-27-06, 10:50 AM
Anyone else who has the Motorola comcast HD box (either w/DVR or not), can you tell me if the box will simultaneously output video to the DVI and Component outs? Has anyone tried this? I'm hoping it does!!!

I have the 6412 and it does work (HDMI and S-Video), but I find that the menus
are incredibly slow when HDMI is plugged in. I have to unplug the HDMI cable from the projector to get the menus to work over s-vid.

thetman
07-27-06, 12:41 PM
The Tv is a panny 50inch 50PX60U-picked it up last week at costco. Honestl-I am stillnot sure what cable box model it is-it has DVI on the back and no DVR. I feel better today about the whole situation- I was watching some programs last night like IRobot on HBO and some show about sharks killing seals-I was impressed by the picture, and I'm a pain the butt when it comes to being happy about-always looking to tweak stuff to make it better-I guess it goes with the hobby. But the box is hooked up directly to the Tv via component supplied by the installer- he said if I want 5.1 just hook up my opticalcoax cable to my reciever- so I asked him- which one? optical or coaxial- he just kinda starred at me...oh well I knew what he ment. So to get 5.1 I assume this is al I have to do? how many shows are actually broadcasted in 5.1?-just wondering if its worth it. I wish there were more channels though- It would be nice to have allthe HBOs on HD or have HD on demand. hoepfully they will add more channels soon.
thetman

andywirtanen
07-27-06, 01:22 PM
Ok, I think this has been answered before, but I would like a re-confirmation.

I currently live in Newton and have Comcast Basic Cable with STB hooked up to an old tube tv. I am heaviliy considering a new HDTV with a built-in QAM tuner (the Westy 27w7). Would I be able to get the basic networks in HD?

By the way, I get NESN in SD with basic cable--is that normal?

Thanks.

JDLIVE
07-27-06, 01:22 PM
For anyone who has the Motorola HD box (DCT6200) or the DVR box (DCT6208), can you please tell me if both video outputs will simultaneously output signals?

Yes, as is the s-video. And composite, too. :D

chaz01
07-27-06, 06:28 PM
The Tv is a panny 50inch 50PX60U-picked it up last week at costco. Honestl-I am stillnot sure what cable box model it is-it has DVI on the back and no DVR. I feel better today about the whole situation- I was watching some programs last night like IRobot on HBO and some show about sharks killing seals-I was impressed by the picture, and I'm a pain the butt when it comes to being happy about-always looking to tweak stuff to make it better-I guess it goes with the hobby. But the box is hooked up directly to the Tv via component supplied by the installer- he said if I want 5.1 just hook up my opticalcoax cable to my reciever- so I asked him- which one? optical or coaxial- he just kinda starred at me...oh well I knew what he ment. So to get 5.1 I assume this is al I have to do? how many shows are actually broadcasted in 5.1?-just wondering if its worth it. I wish there were more channels though- It would be nice to have allthe HBOs on HD or have HD on demand. hoepfully they will add more channels soon.
thetman

I never could tell a difference between coax or optical for audio, both are digital and sync fine with my setup. I would definitely go 5.1 with that set. If you have hbo hd, many movies are 5.1. Network movies and sports are more often than not 5.1. NFL football is 5.1 (usually) and that's reason enough right there (for me anyways). Brings you into the game.

Good luck and enjoy.

chaz01

P.S. If you are not happy with the panny, i will trade you my jvc 52g886 for it!

edit-Might wanna try these settings...
http://www.*******************.com/plasmatvreviews/panasonic-th50px60u-review.html

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thetman
07-27-06, 06:46 PM
Imight try to hook up an optical to the processor-one question though. I have coax hooked up to the processor (B&K ref50) from my dvd player. but if I have optical hooked from the cable box to B&K and I am watching movies will one overide the other? never did this so I ma just wondering.thanks
theman

chaz01
07-27-06, 07:09 PM
Imight try to hook up an optical to the processor-one question though. I have coax hooked up to the processor (B&K ref50) from my dvd player. but if I have optical hooked from the cable box to B&K and I am watching movies will one overide the other? never did this so I ma just wondering.thanks
theman

There should be an iput selection menu to choose one optical over another. Not familiar with that amp.

ckelly5
07-27-06, 09:50 PM
thanks for the info-nice to know that satellite isn't much better (well as far as regretting using comcast). Is there a way to go inot the cable box and set the settings (720 or1080)? I tried looking around the menu but I did not see anything, I was just curious. I am new to all this HD stuff- I guess my expectations got the best of me.
thetman

I don't know what box you have, but on the motorola DVR, you power the dvr off, and then hit the "menu" button. This will get you into a menu with the output resolution selection. Give that a try :)

thetman
07-28-06, 09:10 AM
well I had one good night of HD viewing. Wed night the picture was great-watching HD discovery and HBO. last night all of a sudden-no info was showing up on only the HD channels and the picture looking soft and not much better than the SD channels. called comcast and they wanted to get me to go into the service menu-which the box would not allow-so i am assuming and hoping something is wrong with the cable box and its an easy fix. Technicianis coming back saturday morning- I want a new box for sure. So I won't be hooking up any optical for now until this is resolved and hopefully it will be. Anyone ever here of these problems with their boxes?
thetman

Chris Beveridge
07-28-06, 10:20 AM
Ugh, I hate to ask since my searches aren't bringing up what I'm looking for. I just had two new installs of 3412 boxes in my house and they're set for the three digital requirement to change the channel, i.e. 005 instead of just 5. What's the method to changing it down so I can just put 31 instead of 031?

YesJim
07-28-06, 10:58 AM
Ugh, I hate to ask since my searches aren't bringing up what I'm looking for. I just had two new installs of 3412 boxes in my house and they're set for the three digital requirement to change the channel, i.e. 005 instead of just 5. What's the method to changing it down so I can just put 31 instead of 031?

Have you tried just punching in 31 then hitting Enter? I've been doing that so long it takes a note like this to make me realize I'm doing so!

YesJim
07-28-06, 11:04 AM
Imight try to hook up an optical to the processor-one question though. I have coax hooked up to the processor (B&K ref50) from my dvd player. but if I have optical hooked from the cable box to B&K and I am watching movies will one overide the other? never did this so I ma just wondering.thanks
theman

I determined which cable to use for the box and which for the DVD player based on my DVD player. It only has coax out (yes it's cheap crap) so I used optical from the Moto to my amp. And just like someone else mentioned I simply associated the coax input with the DVD setting on the amp and optical with the TV input.

Works like a charm. My only mini-gripe is that I have to remember to turn my TV volume to 0 when using the amp or I get a stadium-like delay betweeen the TV speakers and my room speakers. I'm one of the few left that chooses not to have my amp on every second of my TV viewing - especially since a lot of that time is spend on Nick, Disney, etc for my kids - why would I want to hear that any louder than necessary???

thetman
07-28-06, 11:19 AM
thanks for the tips on hookinng up to my receiver, I think it will be cool to watch some HD stuff in 5.1- but right now my concern is the image quality-kinda bummed about it- hopefully it will be just the box- can't think of what else it could be- I haven't changed any settings or cables since it was hooked up on wednesday. I know the tech on the phone last night kinda sounded a little perturbed because she couldn't fix the problem- oh well.
thetman

jim_hahn
07-28-06, 01:39 PM
One thing you might try to check PQ is to get the settop box out of the loop.
Plug the cable directly into the RF input on the TV. That's how I use my
Panny 50 inch - no settop box from Comcast. All the "broadcast" channels
will come through in HD. Channel 84-1 is usually stunning.

If the PQ is still bad, maybe you have a TV problem.
--jim

thetman
07-28-06, 01:44 PM
I don't think its the TV- DVDs look pretty good- star wars ROTS upconverted looked really good, and the night before HD from comcast on some channels was almost 3D like-so I know what the TV and comcast are capable of delivering now- and last night was definitely a step down- I am just assuming (and hoping) its the box because all of a sudden the info on HD stopped working and wed I was able to get inot the servicemenu but yesterday I couldn't..so something is up somewhere. but the DVR sounds interesting- have to convince the wife.
thetman

ScoopsHD
07-28-06, 02:42 PM
I don't think its the TV- DVDs look pretty good- star wars ROTS upconverted looked really good, and the night before HD from comcast on some channels was almost 3D like-so I know what the TV and comcast are capable of delivering now- and last night was definitely a step down- I am just assuming (and hoping) its the box because all of a sudden the info on HD stopped working and wed I was able to get inot the servicemenu but yesterday I couldn't..so something is up somewhere. but the DVR sounds interesting- have to convince the wife.
thetman

When you say the Info on the HD stopped working, what exactly do you mean? No guide data? Or when you are tuned to an HD channel you get no Guide or Menu at all (click Guid or Menu and you don't get either)? If that is the case, if you tune to an SD channel like Channel 2 or something, do you get the Guide or Menu then?

YesJim
07-28-06, 04:30 PM
I don't think its the TV- DVDs look pretty good- star wars ROTS upconverted looked really good, and the night before HD from comcast on some channels was almost 3D like-so I know what the TV and comcast are capable of delivering now- and last night was definitely a step down- I am just assuming (and hoping) its the box because all of a sudden the info on HD stopped working and wed I was able to get inot the servicemenu but yesterday I couldn't..so something is up somewhere. but the DVR sounds interesting- have to convince the wife.
thetman


Make sure that when you CAN get into the service menu you have the HD scan mode set properly for your set. Does your TV display everything in 720p or 1080i? You want the signal the box sends to be the same (if possible) as what your panel can display since up/down converting usually messes up the PQ. I have a CRT that displays everything at 1080i no matter what I feed it. Not surprisingly just sending 1080i to it yields the best results. Some Plasma/LCDs display @ 768P and now you need to figure out which scaler combo does the best job. If you have a set that wants to push out 1080p I have no idea what signal from the Moto will look the best.

You also should be sure that the Moto is set to display on a 16:9 screen and not a 4:3 or you'll have nasty funhouse images...if you originally were using the built-in tuner straight off coax you didn't need to worry about this stuff.

sinanju
07-28-06, 04:41 PM
I have a LG 32LX1D with a CableCARD in it. I work at home and sometimes like to have CNN on with no sound and CC going. Unfortunately, I seem to get CC only for the first 15 minutes after tuning to both CNN and CNN Headline.

All other stations seem to behave normally. The TV reports a good signal. The CableCARD has been swapped out for a new one -- the problem was there before and after the trade. Disabling then enabling the CC has no effect. I actually have to tune away from the station and then come back to get another 15 minutes of CC.

I'm guessing there is something dodgy about the feed Comcast is getting for those stations. LG's only idea was to swap out the CableCARD -- I think they have a good point that it is highly unlikely to be the TV as CC works on all other stations, as does the TVGOS.

I'd be interested to hear other theories...

thetman
07-28-06, 05:33 PM
as for the info- I mean if I press the info button nothing comes up- when I enter in channel numbers-none appear on screen, and also when I hit guide-nothing comes up..but all these work when I am on all the other channels-its just the HD channels that nothing works..so this leads me to beleive that the box is having some issues. As for the setting on the box I did have them correct: 16.9-TV, 1080i-output , and 480i for 4.3 override. With these settings the fist night- the picture was great. Then the next day I noticed the HD channels were just OK-and the info, guide and stuff also stopped working at the same time- so it seems a little fishy to me. I hope a simple cable box switch will do the trick-I mean, what else could it be? doubtful its the TV.
thetman

ScoopsHD
07-28-06, 05:53 PM
as for the info- I mean if I press the info button nothing comes up- when I enter in channel numbers-none appear on screen, and also when I hit guide-nothing comes up..but all these work when I am on all the other channels-its just the HD channels that nothing works..so this leads me to beleive that the box is having some issues. As for the setting on the box I did have them correct: 16.9-TV, 1080i-output , and 480i for 4.3 override. With these settings the fist night- the picture was great. Then the next day I noticed the HD channels were just OK-and the info, guide and stuff also stopped working at the same time- so it seems a little fishy to me. I hope a simple cable box switch will do the trick-I mean, what else could it be? doubtful its the TV.
thetman

Make sure you are using the Component Video, DVI, or HDMI connection for your video. The problem you describe (not getting guide/menu on HD Channels, but okay on all other non-HD Channels) point to you using a non-HD video connection (S-Video, RCA Composite, RF, etc). When using these non-HD outputs, the Guide/Menu screens don't overlay onto the downconverted video from HD channels.

Check your outputs, make sure you are using an HD output (Component, DVI, HDMI).

andywirtanen
07-28-06, 06:06 PM
Ok, I just bought a LTV-27w7 Westinghouse at the Framingham, MA Best Buy for $699. I am living in Newton, MA and I have Comcast.

I have basic cable and I unhooked the cable box, plugged directly in to the TV, and chose "CABLE HRC." I did a scan, got all of the analog channels. Over HD, I get all of the major networks (e.g. Fox 87-1).

I was fiddling with the settings, and trying to delete channels, and suddenly I got a message "NO SIGNAL DETECTED" for HD. I was baffled. I turned it off and on. I did a factory reset, no dice, no HD. I changed the signal type (e.g. to "STD") and then changed it back to "CABLE HRC", no dice. Finally, I unplugged the power and plugged it back in again. Everything is back to normal and I have all of the major networks again.

Pretty weird.

thetman
07-28-06, 07:20 PM
Make sure you are using the Component Video, DVI, or HDMI connection for your video.[[/QUOTE]

yes I am using component cables hooked up from cable box to TV-supplied and hooked up by a comcast tech.

Caution
07-29-06, 10:35 AM
Quick question. I'm in Salem, MA using CableCard and Comcast. I'm currently unable to get TVGOS (TV Guide On Screen) data. I have tried much of the recommended things in other areas of the forum (reset the TV, reset the guide, changed to different zip codes) with no luck. Anyone in this forum on the Northshore using TVGOS with success? What zip code are you using?

Thanks!

thetman
07-29-06, 10:41 AM
Well after a day and a half of subpar HD-all by itself late friday night it seemed to come back to life-go figure. First thing I notcied was that the guide was back up. The comcast tech came this morning-he swapped out the box anyway- but checked everything-connections and signal strength- everything was good. So I am back in business..a fluke? I did mention getting a DVR maybe and he said to stay away-nothing but problems.He said comcast would probably be out at my house many times if I did. oh well-maybe Tivo?
thetman

ScoopsHD
07-29-06, 11:04 AM
Well after a day and a half of subpar HD-all by itself late friday night it seemed to come back to life-go figure. First thing I notcied was that the guide was back up. The comcast tech came this morning-he swapped out the box anyway- but checked everything-connections and signal strength- everything was good. So I am back in business..a fluke? I did mention getting a DVR maybe and he said to stay away-nothing but problems.He said comcast would probably be out at my house many times if I did. oh well-maybe Tivo?
thetman

I still think that you were somehow on the non-HD outputs (component video cables can function fine as RCA composite cables, and vice versa). I use a 6208 on an old analog TV and I don't get guide/menu when I tune to the HD channels.

As for the DVR. Yeah, there are some bugs. Annoyance mainly. Its not as refined as Tivo or Replay TV used to be, but its the only gig out there right now. Tivo Series 3 is coming supposedly this fall, but we'll see on that. If you want DVR, and especially want HD DVR, take the plunge and get the 6412. Dual Tuner HD goodness. The 3412 is a little more of a pain when it comes to bugs then the 6412.

Caution
07-30-06, 11:55 AM
Quick question. I'm in Salem, MA using CableCard and Comcast. I'm currently unable to get TVGOS (TV Guide On Screen) data. I have tried much of the recommended things in other areas of the forum (reset the TV, reset the guide, changed to different zip codes) with no luck. Anyone in this forum on the Northshore using TVGOS with success? What zip code are you using?

Thanks!


After printing out the entire TVGOS thread I have finally solved this problem. In Boston Comcast has added WGBH (channel 2 OTA) to it's lineup on channel 97 as an analog channel in order to pass TVGOS data. For those of you having trouble, remove channel 2 from your TV's lineup and add channel 97. I then reset the guide and gave it my zip code (01970) and tuned the tv to channel 97 and turned it off overnight. The guide is mostly accurate though I had to tell it what channel to tune for some of the HD channels (such as WFXT WSBK WLVI, etc). But I now finally have guide data.

Beyondo
07-30-06, 10:53 PM
Hey Everyone,
I have been looking around but I cannot find any info on what resolution the Comcast channels are broadcast in. I realize that I can go into the menu and change resolution but I can not sure what res they are being pushed through at. Thanks!

YesJim
07-31-06, 08:08 AM
Hey Everyone,
I have been looking around but I cannot find any info on what resolution the Comcast channels are broadcast in. I realize that I can go into the menu and change resolution but I can not sure what res they are being pushed through at. Thanks!

Comcast simply passes on what the network broadcasts, so you're best source would be from each network or AVS threads pertaining to them. Here's the last I was aware of:

PBS - ??
CBS - 1080i
ABC- 720p
NBC - 1080i
WBSK - ?
Discovery - ?
Universal HD - 1080i (assumption based on NBC's adoption of this resolution)
TNT - ??
ESPN - 720p
NESN - 1080i
INHD - 1080i

I think I'm pretty close on these...

YesJim
07-31-06, 08:11 AM
Comcast simply passes on what the network broadcasts, so you're best source would be from each network or AVS threads pertaining to them. Here's the last I was aware of:

PBS - ??
CBS - 1080i
ABC- 720p
NBC - 1080i
WBSK - ?
Discovery - ?
Universal HD - 1080i (assumption based on NBC's adoption of this resolution)
TNT - ??
ESPN - 720p
NESN - 1080i
INHD - 1080i

I think I'm pretty close on these...

Oh yeah and FOX broadcasts @ 480p unless they actually decide to broadcast in real HD for things like some football games and baseball playoffs. Then it's a squirrelly looking 720 I believe.

toots
07-31-06, 08:14 AM
In fact, even when Fox is 720P, it's often "HD Lite."

I noticed that most episodes of "24" have a bitrate around 7-8 Mbps, as compared to bitrates in the range of 16-19 Mbps on all the other HD channels.

thetman
08-01-06, 10:10 AM
the funny thing is (well not funny at the time) but my wife finally admitted her guilt. I guess she originally hit channel 4 on the pannys remote last thursday-when channel 3 was selected it switched the output on the Tv to just TV not component one- hence all the HD channels were not displaying in HD at all. So when I plopped in a DVd movie (switched to HDMI) and then after the movie I switched to Component 1 input and --of course the HD channels were back! I thought it was just a fluke at the time (it was late) Of course I was stupid not to realize this at first- until yesterday when she did it again but this time she had to fess up and tell me the HD channels weren't working again- so I asked her what she did- then it all made sense. so lesson learned-I told her to stay away from the electronics (only kidding).
thetman

stephenju
08-01-06, 11:06 AM
If you don't have a Harmony remote, get one. It's the only remote that wife and kids can use like we do. Really.

toots
08-01-06, 12:05 PM
Or, if you like to fiddle, get an MX-700 and spend the next month programming it.

Both ideas, equally valid.

The ending point is a system that both you and your wife can use without getting confused. Note that your current system's even confusing you, since it wasn't immediately apparent to you that someone else in the household had changed the configuration and that you don't have any existing method that automatically sets everything back to a known state.

I mean, it's easy to sit back and laugh at your wife for changing things and not understanding how it works, but the geekier might laugh at you for not realizing that's what happened and/or double checking the config before calling Comcast. This stuff is clearly only easy to use for the types who LIKE to spend a half an hour turning on the TV.

I personally gave up on that a long time ago. Now, one button press on the MX-700, and all the right components power up and all the appropriate configurations are set for me. Doesn't matter who did what before. The result is the luxury of getting to forget what's plugged into where and why.

Kaiser-Soze
08-01-06, 09:11 PM
If you don't have a Harmony remote, get one. It's the only remote that wife and kids can use like we do. Really.

No wife, no kids, but I love my 550. Does 99.9% of what I want to do..

chaz01
08-02-06, 02:20 AM
the funny thing is (well not funny at the time) but my wife finally admitted her guilt. I guess she originally hit channel 4 on the pannys remote last thursday-when channel 3 was selected it switched the output on the Tv to just TV not component one- hence all the HD channels were not displaying in HD at all. So when I plopped in a DVd movie (switched to HDMI) and then after the movie I switched to Component 1 input and --of course the HD channels were back! I thought it was just a fluke at the time (it was late) Of course I was stupid not to realize this at first- until yesterday when she did it again but this time she had to fess up and tell me the HD channels weren't working again- so I asked her what she did- then it all made sense. so lesson learned-I told her to stay away from the electronics (only kidding).
thetman

Does this mean that I WON'T be trading my JVC D-ila for your Panny????

thetman
08-02-06, 08:19 AM
sorry chaz01-she almost had me fooled-but I think I'll keep the panny for now. Maybe I should tell her that she treated the panny so bad I had to give it to good home?

YellowSpoon
08-02-06, 02:04 PM
I have basic cable in Wellesley. All my TV's are cable ready and I don't get any premium channels so I don't even have a cable box. So now I wanna get HD. The Comcast web site is cryptic, but I assume it'll cost me at least another $15 to get HD cable. Do I need a cable box or can a digital TV pick up the digital signal? If so, do I need one for each TV? And how much are they?

Lodef
08-02-06, 08:47 PM
Could someone that is using CableCard tell me if they have had lip sync issues with the Moto Card and if so if Comcast got the problem resolved. I just had mine installed and seem to have it on a lot of channels and wanted to know if this is an isolated incident or is widespread.

stephenju
08-02-06, 09:24 PM
I don't think CC has anything to do with lip sync. Most likely it's the station.

JM22681
08-02-06, 09:45 PM
My Cablecard w/ Samsung HL-R5078W works great.

Lodef
08-03-06, 12:20 AM
I don't think CC has anything to do with lip sync. Most likely it's the station.

I had a 6412 hooked up to my Plasma with no problems before the CC was installed, so it is defiantly related to the CC. I read on the Hitachi 55HDS52 forum that others were also experience this issue but there was no fix to correct it which gives me concern because the PQ with the CC is by far the best and I would hate to go back to the 6412 if it can't be resolved by Comcast. I did call to have a tech come out tomorrow and hopefully he can figure it out, maybe I just need to swap out the card. I have my figures crossed.

bostonseo
08-03-06, 10:31 AM
Hi,

New here (in Boston) and new owner of a Samsung LN-S3241D TV. I have the Motorolla DCT6200/DCT6208 cable box (not sure which one). Anyway, right now I am hooked up via
basic RCA component cables and the picture is pretty good for the HD programs. Right now I think I have every HD channel.

Sounds like I could get a better picture/sound if I hook up from DVI out from the cable box to the HDMI input on my tv. How noticeable is the difference ? Also I hear this cable is pretty expensive - is that true?

The one complaint I have is audio quality really. Frequently I get a buzzing noise on my TV and I am not sure why. I've tried to play around with some of the audio settings on my TV - really turning down the bass/low end. Is this a common problem? Maybe connecting (as I described above) should help improve the audio too?

Thanks

stephenju
08-03-06, 10:55 AM
I had a 6412 hooked up to my Plasma with no problems before the CC was installed, so it is defiantly related to the CC. I read on the Hitachi 55HDS52 forum that others were also experience this issue but there was no fix to correct it which gives me concern because the PQ with the CC is by far the best and I would hate to go back to the 6412 if it can't be resolved by Comcast. I did call to have a tech come out tomorrow and hopefully he can figure it out, maybe I just need to swap out the card. I have my figures crossed.

Did you change how your audio is routed after installing CC? Maybe you have audio delay set in your receiver?

You can unplug the CC and tune to one of the clear channels and see if the issue remains. If so, it's the station. Otherwise it's the CC (or the audio routing).

Just guessing. My CC works very well with Panasonic plasma. All the lip sync problems so far has been the channels (FOX25 local shows especially).

Chris Beveridge
08-03-06, 11:00 AM
Also I hear this cable is pretty expensive - is that true?

Check out the monoprice affiliate at the top of the AVS site here; you can get the single dvi/hdmi cable for just a couple of bucks. I did that for my HD players and it works perfectly, no HDCP issues.

stevehof
08-03-06, 11:11 AM
Could someone that is using CableCard tell me if they have had lip sync issues with the Moto Card and if so if Comcast got the problem resolved. I just had mine installed and seem to have it on a lot of channels and wanted to know if this is an isolated incident or is widespread.
A couple of questions:

- Does the lip sync problem have the video lagging behind the audio, rather than the other way around?
- Is the lip sync delay constant?

If you answered yes to both of those questions, you might be able to handle the lip sync it with a "group delay" audio feature, either in your TV set or A/V receiver, if your device has that feature. It's designed to delay audio playback by a number of milliseconds (that you set) to compensate for the extra time needed for all the video processing going on.

Lodef
08-03-06, 11:52 AM
A couple of questions:

- Does the lip sync problem have the video lagging behind the audio, rather than the other way around?
- Is the lip sync delay constant?

If you answered yes to both of those questions, you might be able to handle the lip sync it with a "group delay" audio feature, either in your TV set or A/V receiver, if your device has that feature. It's designed to delay audio playback by a number of milliseconds (that you set) to compensate for the extra time needed for all the video processing going on.

To me the audio is lagging behind the video but sometimes it is hard to tell. I don't have the signal running thru a receiver and there is no adjustment within the Hitachi to use a delay feature. The tech came out this morning and said there is a lag on some channels but it might be on their end and they were looking into it. But there was no lag on my 6412 on my other tv so I still think it's a CC and Hitachi compatability issue. he said to give it a few more days to see if it clears up but I'm not very optimistic right now

midfiman
08-03-06, 03:39 PM
Maybe someone can help me on this...

So, I have a Comcast Motorola 34(12?) Dual Tuner HD DVR box with HDMI out. I have a 34" widescreen HDTV (Philips) and a Panny 900u projector. I have the cable box connected to the TV via components (doesn't have HDMI in) and to the projector via HDMI.

Now, I know there are alot of different setup things that I have to go through. I was hoping to set the box to 720p which is the native for the projector. However, when I do that, HD does not show up on the TV (via component) and it throws a fit. The only way they both work is if the box is set at 480i. Is that what I should do?

There's alot of other settings on the menu i.e. advanced HDMI settings, etc that I have no idea what I should put for the correct settings...

What should I have it on, YbYrY or RGB (what is the difference in these?) I thought they were both just component video?

Also, then there's this thing for for HDMI output, DVI or HDMI
Then somthing about Colorsomething...

If anyone is familiar with this menu, they should be able to help me out pretty easily!

Thanks!

Mallego
08-03-06, 08:38 PM
Lodef, the cable card only provides the decryption keys and sets the channel line-up. Your TV set does all the audio and video processing. Look to Hitachi on this one.

chitchatjf
08-05-06, 11:51 AM
I have basic cable in Wellesley. All my TV's are cable ready and I don't get any premium channels so I don't even have a cable box. So now I wanna get HD. The Comcast web site is cryptic, but I assume it'll cost me at least another $15 to get HD cable. Do I need a cable box or can a digital TV pick up the digital signal? If so, do I need one for each TV? And how much are they?

A digtal TV with a QAM tuner can get HD locals (2,4,5,7,9,25,38,56) A cable card turns your TV tuner into a cable box (for channel decryption and mapping purposes)

To get HD programming besides locals an HD box or a cable card is required.

cable cards are FREE
HD boxes are $9.25
DVRs which include the HD box is $14.70.

An additional charge of $2.45 Digital Access (Digital or High-Definition) charge for reception of premium service(s) or package on additional outlets applies and is not included in the equipment or service prices displayed. (Per outlet).

chitchatjf
08-05-06, 03:22 PM
Does anyone have a DCT700?

I know this is an HD borard but i was thinking of getting a box for my wsecond set and i don't want to have a luggy DCT2000 (May consider a DCT6100) :)

jdoe7890
08-05-06, 09:34 PM
Does anyone have a DCT700?

Yup , have one. Very small. Works great with my 27" TV.

All digital box with VOD. ( no time on the front panel)

chitchatjf
08-05-06, 09:58 PM
Yup , have one. Very small. Works great with my 27" TV.

All digital box with VOD. ( no time on the front panel)

Looks like one will be in my near future.

I am thinking of geting a newer SDTV with a digital tuner for the bedroom.

What I will do is connect the house antenna to the antenna input (and get over the air HD downconverted to 480i in 4:3 letterbox) and use the video audio inputs for the box.

mishakim
08-06-06, 06:54 PM
for the last several days, the digital audio out has had nearly zero volume when watching analog or digital SD stations and most commercials on HD stations (anything not HD). HD programs are fine, but everything else silent unless I crank the volume to max, at which point there's some faint & noisy audio. Analog audio is fine. This is true of both live and recorded. Is anyone else seeing this (i.e., comcast problem) or know a reason the STB would be doing it? Multiple reboots haven't fixed it, nor playing with the audio settings (do any of those do anything to digital?)

setup: Motorola 6412 (phase 1?), optical & analog to receiver, DVI to LCD monitor

chitchatjf
08-06-06, 10:48 PM
in case folks didn't yet know a new to boston sd channel popped in on 244. Soapnet.

Its my sister's fav cable channel and she gets it where she's at so I told her I broughyt it home with me :) Spent a week and 1/2 visiting which is why I have not been on the board.

chaz01
08-07-06, 02:31 AM
for the last several days, the digital audio out has had nearly zero volume when watching analog or digital SD stations and most commercials on HD stations (anything not HD). HD programs are fine, but everything else silent unless I crank the volume to max, at which point there's some faint & noisy audio. Analog audio is fine. This is true of both live and recorded. Is anyone else seeing this (i.e., comcast problem) or know a reason the STB would be doing it? Multiple reboots haven't fixed it, nor playing with the audio settings (do any of those do anything to digital?)

setup: Motorola 6412 (phase 1?), optical & analog to receiver, DVI to LCD monitor

Been using Cablecard 1.0 for a while but had same setup prior and no audio out issues using coaxal (sp?) out.

macd23
08-07-06, 04:37 PM
Hi,

New here (in Boston) and new owner of a Samsung LN-S3241D TV. I have the Motorolla DCT6200/DCT6208 cable box (not sure which one). Anyway, right now I am hooked up via
basic RCA component cables and the picture is pretty good for the HD programs. Right now I think I have every HD channel.

Sounds like I could get a better picture/sound if I hook up from DVI out from the cable box to the HDMI input on my tv. How noticeable is the difference ? Also I hear this cable is pretty expensive - is that true?

The one complaint I have is audio quality really. Frequently I get a buzzing noise on my TV and I am not sure why. I've tried to play around with some of the audio settings on my TV - really turning down the bass/low end. Is this a common problem? Maybe connecting (as I described above) should help improve the audio too?

Thanks

FWIW, I hooked up a $30 DVI cable I bought online and my picture looked like ****. All my colors were washed out and blah. Even when adjusting my television settings (Samsung DLP) I could not achieve the vibrant picture I get with my stock component cables from Comcast. Try it and see.

cnewsgrp
08-07-06, 04:51 PM
FWIW, I hooked up a $30 DVI cable I bought online and my picture looked like ****. All my colors were washed out and blah. Even when adjusting my television settings (Samsung DLP) I could not achieve the vibrant picture I get with my stock component cables from Comcast. Try it and see.

I had same problem when I connected Dell W3706MC to Motorola HD Box using DVI/HDMI cable. Picture looks great using Component cable given by Comcast.

Earlier I had Motorola HD/DVR box connected to same TV using HDMI/HDMI cable and picture looked great - which means there is nothing wrong with TV.

FYI - Both cables were cheap cables - I got them from one of the companies that advertise on the web site.

bostonseo
08-08-06, 06:08 PM
Yes I received my $20 DVI/HDMI cable bought from a vendor above and the picture actually looks worse than when I just used basic component cables (the red, white, yellow type).

This is very frustrating that what is supossed to be a better signal - DVI/HDMI actually is worse. Do you think it is the cable or the cable box just has a poor quality
DVI output?

The other question I have is what is the best settings on the cable box?

TV Type - choices I have are 16:9, 4:3 Letterbox, 4:3 pan scan

DVI/yPbPr output - choices I have are 1080I, 720P, 480P

4:3 Override - choices I have are off, 480I, 480P, stretch

Any recommendations on these settings greatly appreciated.

stephenju
08-08-06, 06:22 PM
I seem to recall reading somewhere you need to change color space setting in the STB or TV to get the DVI output color right. Sorry I don't have the details. I am using CableCARD.

grampy
08-08-06, 06:41 PM
The other question I have is what is the best settings on the cable box?

TV Type - choices I have are 16:9, 4:3 Letterbox, 4:3 pan scan

DVI/yPbPr output - choices I have are 1080I, 720P, 480P

4:3 Override - choices I have are off, 480I, 480P, stretch

Any recommendations on these settings greatly appreciated.
I suggest 16:9, 720P (or 1080i, whichever you prefer or looks best) and overide off.

DaveFi
08-08-06, 09:49 PM
FYI: TNT has all the episodes of Nightmares and Dreamscapes in HD in their OnDemand section.

cnewsgrp
08-09-06, 10:42 AM
I suggest 16:9, 720P (or 1080i, whichever you prefer or looks best) and overide off.
I used same settings. 16:9, 1080i,override off(I flip to stretch when I watch cartoons or animation)

Regarding DVI-HDMI the problem is definately not TV because I connected Motorola HD-DVR cable box to TV(same input) using HDMI-HDMI cable from the same vendor and PQ was great. The issue might be with either HDMI-DVI cable or cable box. I don't know and no way for me to find out.

epie
08-09-06, 11:52 AM
for the last several days, the digital audio out has had nearly zero volume when watching analog or digital SD stations and most commercials on HD stations (anything not HD). HD programs are fine, but everything else silent unless I crank the volume to max, at which point there's some faint & noisy audio. Analog audio is fine. This is true of both live and recorded. Is anyone else seeing this (i.e., comcast problem) or know a reason the STB would be doing it? Multiple reboots haven't fixed it, nor playing with the audio settings (do any of those do anything to digital?)

setup: Motorola 6412 (phase 1?), optical & analog to receiver, DVI to LCD monitor

Funny you should mention this. This past Saturday afternoon and then Monday night my receiver was not picking up DD but instead was defaulting to 2-channel audio. I thought my receiver was bad but H/K said no. I then called Comcast and they said it could have be the box or a fluke but they had no record of widespread reports. In both cases I turned ny 3412 DVR off and then on again and it fixed it. Sounds like this may have been a Comcastic issue as I don;t live too far from you.

JDLIVE
08-09-06, 01:54 PM
FYI: TNT has all the episodes of Nightmares and Dreamscapes in HD in their OnDemand section.

Thanks, I guess I can delete them from the DVR then. :D I watched a couple of them so far, not bad but not great, either.

kenvt
08-09-06, 03:15 PM
Do I need to delete my season records for House, Lost etc and recreate them or is the comcast dvr smart enough to find them regardless of night and time changes ?

Thanks,

Ken

deathstroke
08-09-06, 03:26 PM
Funny you should mention this. This past Saturday afternoon and then Monday night my receiver was not picking up DD but instead was defaulting to 2-channel audio. I thought my receiver was bad but H/K said no. I then called Comcast and they said it could have be the box or a fluke but they had no record of widespread reports. In both cases I turned ny 3412 DVR off and then on again and it fixed it. Sounds like this may have been a Comcastic issue as I don;t live too far from you.

My 3412 sometimes decides to output 2-channel audio, for no apparent reason. I have to turn it on and off to get it back outputting 5.1 Dolby Digital. Nice bug, huh?

mishakim
08-09-06, 04:12 PM
Do I need to delete my season records for House, Lost etc and recreate them or is the comcast dvr smart enough to find them regardless of night and time changes ?

In the past, it has worked fine for me with the old settings when each new season starts. Saved me missing the start of BSG season 2, since I thought it was later but the DVR recorded it. That said, you should double-check when the schedule goes out far enough to show the first new episode, and make sure it indicates that it plans to record it

JAMDLP
08-09-06, 09:18 PM
Does anyone know if Comcast is carrying final table of the world series of poker on espn pay per view? I can't see it listed in on the on demand menu anywhere.

I know espn pay per view is showing the final table live at 5 PM tomorrow, but I just don't know if Comcast provides espn pay per view events.

VGPats
08-10-06, 10:42 AM
Any news on new HD Channels? I know there have been rumblings of NFL Network HD. I noticed last night that some of the pre-season games will be shown on that channel in HD. In the past Game of the week has been shown in HD on INHD2. It would be nice if it had it's own channel. Can we dump UniversalHD if we need the bandwidth. That has to be the worst programming ever. The only time I watched it was during the Winter Olympics. I've never been a David Hasselhof fan to begin with. BTW-does he get drunk for that Americas got talent show or what? He's such a tool.

raidbuck
08-10-06, 11:15 AM
NFLNetowrk HD is supposed to be coming.

MHD will be coming if you don't have it already.

NGHD is supposed to be coming reasonably soon (maybe even this year).

Rumors are favorable for HGTV in the maybe not so reasonably soon future.

There are even some rumors that things aren't as hopeless as before for HDNET.

Good things are happening with Comcast and new HD. They just can't get all available national channels all at once.

DISCLAIMER: Bandwidth must be available. Some channels not available in all areas.

Hey, don't trash UHD. They have unedited, uninterrupted movies. Try that on TNT-HD. And I actually like the HD reruns of L&O SUV (oops! too much Sopranos).

Rich N.

epie
08-10-06, 11:27 AM
My 3412 sometimes decides to output 2-channel audio, for no apparent reason. I have to turn it on and off to get it back outputting 5.1 Dolby Digital. Nice bug, huh?


At least I know I'm not the only one. Thanks!

epie
08-10-06, 11:30 AM
Question: I have had my 3412 DVR for about 4 months now and had a question on series recordings. How come on certain shows like "Howard Stern TV" which I have set-up to record "first-run only" I still seem to get the same show recorded several times on my DVR. This isn't the only show this happens to me on. Is this a Guide issue? Do Tivo subscribers have the same issue? Just curious.

Thanks,
epie

L Supreme
08-10-06, 11:37 AM
Question: I have had my 3412 DVR for about 4 months now and had a question on series recordings. How come on certain shows like "Howard Stern TV" which I have set-up to record "first-run only" I still seem to get the same show recorded several times on my DVR. This isn't the only show this happens to me on. Is this a Guide issue? Do Tivo subscribers have the same issue? Just curious.

Thanks,
epie


Its because the repeats are not tagged properly in the description. Some stations are good about tagging the shows. For instance ER on TNT is labbeled as Repeat before the description of the show so it can distinguish that its a Repeat or New episode, but the episodes of the Daily show all say New. This comes down to the stations providing the correct info to TV guide.

I don't believe this happens to Tivo anymore due to a feature they patented to prevent this. Hopefully we get it once the Tivo guide comes to be.

epie
08-10-06, 12:00 PM
Its because the repeats are not tagged properly in the description. Some stations are good about tagging the shows. For instance ER on TNT is labbeled as Repeat before the description of the show so it can distinguish that its a Repeat or New episode, but the episodes of the Daily show all say New. This comes down to the stations providing the correct info to TV guide.

I don't believe this happens to Tivo anymore due to a feature they patented to prevent this. Hopefully we get it once the Tivo guide comes to be.

Thanks. It has been so bad at times for the shows I watch I was starting to think the feature didn't even work.

What is this "Tivo guide" all about? Is our standard guide getting replaced with this or is this going to be a highere priced option than the standard guide. Also, are we due for next generation DVR boxes anytime soon?

Thanks!

FAiello
08-10-06, 12:51 PM
Anyone know what it would cost to add a second HDTV box with HDMI, I presently have a 6412 DVR and would like to add a non DVR box to my bedroom.

L Supreme
08-10-06, 01:45 PM
Thanks. It has been so bad at times for the shows I watch I was starting to think the feature didn't even work.

What is this "Tivo guide" all about? Is our standard guide getting replaced with this or is this going to be a highere priced option than the standard guide. Also, are we due for next generation DVR boxes anytime soon?

Thanks!

Its an optional feature, for an additional cost

Anyone know what it would cost to add a second HDTV box with HDMI, I presently have a 6412 DVR and would like to add a non DVR box to my bedroom.

$11.95

dozens
08-10-06, 08:26 PM
Anyone know what it would cost to add a second HDTV box with HDMI, I presently have a 6412 DVR and would like to add a non DVR box to my bedroom.

I don't there is a non-DVR HD STB with HDMI.

SonyHD
08-10-06, 10:14 PM
I wish Comcast would add HDNet/HDNet Movies, NFL Network HD, Realmadrid Television, and Setanta Sports. The first two should be no brainers, the last two might take longer to add. However Realmadrid Television is very popular in Spain (number one sports channel there) and is gaining in popularity worldwide. Considered to be a mix of ESPN, MTV, and the BBC all rolled into one. They also have children's programming too. Setanta Sports now has the English Premiere League, Scottish Premiere League, Champions League, MUTV (Manchester United) and Chelsea TV.

jackie C
08-10-06, 10:36 PM
Anyone notice NESN Red Sox game lacking in HD quality tonight?

chitchatjf
08-11-06, 12:34 AM
Yup , have one. Very small. Works great with my 27" TV.

All digital box with VOD. ( no time on the front panel)

I tried picking one up. They said you have to have someone come and install it,but i could have a bulky 2000.

I may try again but i will call the 800# first.

That is what I did the day I was able to just pick up a DVR at the office.

Lodef
08-11-06, 12:35 AM
Anyone notice NESN Red Sox game lacking in HD quality tonight?

I don't know about the HD, but the Sox are sure lacking in quality lately. :eek:

JohnInMass
08-11-06, 07:58 AM
Have D* but with the crappy MPEG4 stuff I hooked up my Comcast Basic Cable via Coax to my Pio 5070 and viola 40 or so stations appear! The stations come in with numbers like 72.001 and 82.002 etc, and I get multiples of each network feed (1SDef, 2 or 3 HDef). Has anyone seen this?

Also, are cablecards free? would one help me in any way?

chitchatjf
08-11-06, 08:39 AM
Have D* but with the crappy MPEG4 stuff I hooked up my Comcast Basic Cable via Coax to my Pio 5070 and viola 40 or so stations appear! The stations come in with numbers like 72.001 and 82.002 etc, and I get multiples of each network feed (1SDef, 2 or 3 HDef). Has anyone seen this?

Also, are cablecards free? would one help me in any way?

Cable cards are FREE and even with Basic cable would map channel designations to the same positions they would appear on a Box. (WGBH DT on 802,WBZ-DT on 804,WCVB-DT on 805,ect....)

mboyaj
08-11-06, 08:48 AM
Anyone notice NESN Red Sox game lacking in HD quality tonight?

Apparently when the Sox are on the road the HD feed isn't the same quality as the home broadcast. John Henry mentions that in the Dan Shaughnessey article from the Globe yesterday.

JohnInMass
08-11-06, 02:54 PM
Cable cards are FREE and even with Basic cable would map channel designations to the same positions they would appear on a Box. (WGBH DT on 802,WBZ-DT on 804,WCVB-DT on 805,ect....)

So I called Comcast and the "free" cable cards evidently can only be installed by Comcast techs for $30. Has anyone been able to pick up the card yourself and install it?

chaz01
08-11-06, 11:25 PM
So I called Comcast and the "free" cable cards evidently can only be installed by Comcast techs for $30. Has anyone been able to pick up the card yourself and install it?

Negative. And after helping a friend and his wife with their first HDTV this week, I can kinda see why. Most consumers aren't out here on AVS like us.

Too bad it isn't optional tech install though...

Lodef
08-12-06, 03:54 PM
So I called Comcast and the "free" cable cards evidently can only be installed by Comcast techs for $30. Has anyone been able to pick up the card yourself and install it?

No, not that I know of. After install the tech has to communicate with the home office all the information about that particular card which then has to be activated from the office. He can also troubleshoot any problems that might arise during this process which I heard there can be many, which is why I would think Comcast wants the tech there instead of making many trips to and from your home.

ps2baseball
08-13-06, 07:50 PM
Its an optional feature, for an additional cost



$11.95


It is actually <$5 more, at least that is what they said when I called.

I think it is $11 but up pay $6 already for the classic box.

epie
08-13-06, 09:41 PM
My digital audio just got all choppy and box started responding to remote commands at a snail's pace. Anyone else have any problems tonight?

pedrojunkie
08-14-06, 02:22 PM
So I called Comcast and the "free" cable cards evidently can only be installed by Comcast techs for $30. Has anyone been able to pick up the card yourself and install it?

Cablecard was free for me but I got hit with a "$2.95 additional digital outlet charge fee" since I had a cable box as well...

The kicker... both the cable box and the cablecard are on the same tv... Stupid comcast...

oh well, Its still slightly cheaper than a real HD DVR...

All the technician does is plug the cablecard in and read some numbers back to the main office, and the main office activates the account. No reason they need to send a technician out. But Comcast Boston won't do it without the technician. (nor have I found an office that stocks the cablecards anyway) Usually the technician has no idea whatsoever what he's doing anyway, I've had a cablecard installed three times each time the technician has been on tech support with the main office trying to figure out how to make it work. The last time I basically talked him through it, its really easy, but noone knows how to do it.

macd23
08-14-06, 04:15 PM
Apparently when the Sox are on the road the HD feed isn't the same quality as the home broadcast. John Henry mentions that in the Dan Shaughnessey article from the Globe yesterday.


I think it depends on the venue.........I don't know what night the poster is referring to, but the Tampa games sucked -dim lighting in the dome and awful astro turf the major factors there.......


Sunday at fenway the sox had their awful red jerseys on, which wreak havoc on the HD cameras, lots of pixel breakup and macroblocking.....


Man, I would welcome ANY HD additions, but National Geographic HD would be awesome!

JM22681
08-14-06, 04:26 PM
Does anyone know if Laguna Beach (MTV) will be on MHD for their first-run shows (Wednesday @ 9pm)? MHD.tv's site does not indicate this however it has been wrong before. Pearl Jam's storytellers was on MHD first run the same time it was on VH1. I can't find any info on the net...

ChicksHateMe
08-14-06, 05:01 PM
I have a few Questions and hope someone can help.

I just ordered a sceptre 42" HDTV which has a built in tuner.

I have read that some HD channels come though on a standard cable service (which I have w/o a cable box).

What I am wondering is what do I need to get NESN HD on my new set?

Here's my questions;

SERVICE

1a. Can I get NESN HD because I already have NESN with the standard service?

OR TO get NESN HD;

1b. Do I need to upgrade to Enhanced Service?

OR

1c. Do I need to upgrade to Digital Service?

TUNER

2a. Will my built in tuner pick up NESN HD for me.

OR

2b. Do I need the HD Cable Box from ComCast to decode it.

OR

2c. Can I use a Standard Cable Box and still use HDTVs Built in Tuner?


Thanks in advance!!!

changw1
08-14-06, 05:30 PM
Does anyone has the problem of losing their stored channels with the cable card? I have a samsung HPR5072. Every other week, the channels would disappear from the memory. I have replaced the cable card twice and it did not help. However, when I removed the cablecard and use the build-in QAM tuner, the stored channels will not disappear. Does anyone has the same problem as me?

JM22681
08-14-06, 06:11 PM
Does anyone has the problem of losing their stored channels with the cable card? I have a samsung HPR5072. Every other week, the channels would disappear from the memory. I have replaced the cable card twice and it did not help. However, when I removed the cablecard and use the build-in QAM tuner, the stored channels will not disappear. Does anyone has the same problem as me?

Are you referring to TV Guide On-Screen, or...?

chitchatjf
08-14-06, 07:17 PM
Cablecard was free for me but I got hit with a "$2.95 additional digital outlet charge fee" since I had a cable box as well...

The kicker... both the cable box and the cablecard are on the same tv... Stupid comcast...

oh well, Its still slightly cheaper than a real HD DVR...

All the technician does is plug the cablecard in and read some numbers back to the main office, and the main office activates the account. No reason they need to send a technician out. But Comcast Boston won't do it without the technician. (nor have I found an office that stocks the cablecards anyway) Usually the technician has no idea whatsoever what he's doing anyway, I've had a cablecard installed three times each time the technician has been on tech support with the main office trying to figure out how to make it work. The last time I basically talked him through it, its really easy, but noone knows how to do it.

The cable card is considered a no charge cable box. The "addional outlet" fee still applies.

chitchatjf
08-14-06, 07:18 PM
Does anyone has the problem of losing their stored channels with the cable card? I have a samsung HPR5072. Every other week, the channels would disappear from the memory. I have replaced the cable card twice and it did not help. However, when I removed the cablecard and use the build-in QAM tuner, the stored channels will not disappear. Does anyone has the same problem as me?

Digital channels beyond limited basic (channels 2-22 ,QVC,HSN,and the HD LOCALS) and encrypted. No cable box or cable card,no decryption.

chitchatjf
08-14-06, 07:24 PM
Does anyone know if Laguna Beach (MTV) will be on MHD for their first-run shows (Wednesday @ 9pm)? MHD.tv's site does not indicate this however it has been wrong before. Pearl Jam's storytellers was on MHD first run the same time it was on VH1. I can't find any info on the net...

Bite your tounge!


Lagiuna beach is NOT a music show!

MHD stands for MUSIC in high defination. It is NOT an HD simucast of MTV which has hardly any music anyway.

chitchatjf
08-14-06, 07:28 PM
I have a few Questions and hope someone can help.

I just ordered a sceptre 42" HDTV which has a built in tuner.

I have read that some HD channels come though on a standard cable service (which I have w/o a cable box).

What I am wondering is what do I need to get NESN HD on my new set?

Here's my questions;

SERVICE

1a. Can I get NESN HD because I already have NESN with the standard service?

OR TO get NESN HD;

1b. Do I need to upgrade to Enhanced Service?

OR

1c. Do I need to upgrade to Digital Service?

TUNER

2a. Will my built in tuner pick up NESN HD for me.

OR

2b. Do I need the HD Cable Box from ComCast to decode it.

OR

2c. Can I use a Standard Cable Box and still use HDTVs Built in Tuner?


Thanks in advance!!!


HD cable box OR cable card is needed to get NESN HD!

If the hDTV has a cable card slot,you can get a cable card. This will decrypt channels and map them so they appear on the same channel designations as a cable box.

If the set does NOT have a cable card slot,an HD Box is NEEDED!

Either way, NESN-HD will be on channel 851.

murffee1
08-15-06, 07:17 AM
I don't know if this question has been addressed but I couldn't find anything when I searched. I am thinking about getting a LCD TV for the bedroom with cable card access. Since I already have a DVD recorder in the bedroom that runs off the cable box, I was wondering how you manage to record premium channels when you have a cable card. Is there a "pass-through" for a cable wire? Or is recording encryted channels not doable with a cable card?
Thanks

JM22681
08-15-06, 08:31 AM
Bite your tounge!


Lagiuna beach is NOT a music show!

MHD stands for MUSIC in high defination. It is NOT an HD simucast of MTV which has hardly any music anyway.

I don't know, they show that Cheyenne show occasionally in HD. The strange thing is that the show is HD ready since it is in letterbox already. I'm crossing my fingers...

JohnInMass
08-15-06, 09:01 AM
Cablecard was free for me but I got hit with a "$2.95 additional digital outlet charge fee" since I had a cable box as well...

The kicker... both the cable box and the cablecard are on the same tv... Stupid comcast...

oh well, Its still slightly cheaper than a real HD DVR...

All the technician does is plug the cablecard in and read some numbers back to the main office, and the main office activates the account. No reason they need to send a technician out. But Comcast Boston won't do it without the technician. (nor have I found an office that stocks the cablecards anyway) Usually the technician has no idea whatsoever what he's doing anyway, I've had a cablecard installed three times each time the technician has been on tech support with the main office trying to figure out how to make it work. The last time I basically talked him through it, its really easy, but noone knows how to do it.

Well, called back and this time the "installation" price was $15, let the D* vs. Comcast comparison begin!

JDLIVE
08-15-06, 01:08 PM
I don't know if this question has been addressed but I couldn't find anything when I searched. I am thinking about getting a LCD TV for the bedroom with cable card access. Since I already have a DVD recorder in the bedroom that runs off the cable box, I was wondering how you manage to record premium channels when you have a cable card. Is there a "pass-through" for a cable wire? Or is recording encryted channels not doable with a cable card?
Thanks

Well, a cable card has no hard drive, so it has nothing to record to. As its name suggests, the DVR is needed to record anything and the proper subscription is needed to get the premium channels.

chitchatjf
08-15-06, 04:39 PM
I don't know, they show that Cheyenne show occasionally in HD. The strange thing is that the show is HD ready since it is in letterbox already. I'm crossing my fingers...

Like i said before,Lagiuna beach is NOT a music show!

Cheyenne may had been a reality show,but it was generally about her attempts at a MUSIC career.

MHD is NOT MTV-HD!

Lodef
08-16-06, 09:02 AM
Cablecard was free for me but I got hit with a "$2.95 additional digital outlet charge fee" since I had a cable box as well...

The kicker... both the cable box and the cablecard are on the same tv... Stupid comcast...

oh well, Its still slightly cheaper than a real HD DVR...

All the technician does is plug the cablecard in and read some numbers back to the main office, and the main office activates the account. No reason they need to send a technician out. But Comcast Boston won't do it without the technician. (nor have I found an office that stocks the cablecards anyway) Usually the technician has no idea whatsoever what he's doing anyway, I've had a cablecard installed three times each time the technician has been on tech support with the main office trying to figure out how to make it work. The last time I basically talked him through it, its really easy, but noone knows how to do it.

Not sure why you would have a box and a cablecard on the same TV, to me that makes no sense unless your using it for PIP.

There are also many threads about problems with CableCard compatability issues in the HD Hardware forum . The tech that came to my house said sometimes it takes 2 or 3 cards before he gets one to work with a particular TV. If you were doing it yourself you would not have that luxury and with some brands like Philips he can't get them to work at all on occasions not to mention lip sync issues

This is why they require a tech, my card had to be hit 3 times from the office when it finally activated just before he was ready to swap it out for another card. I also had the lip sync issue but once I ran the signal thru my receiver it was fine.

pedrojunkie
08-16-06, 11:24 AM
Not sure why you would have a box and a cablecard on the same TV, to me that makes no sense unless your using it for PIP.

Oh, Probrably should have explained better...

I own my own HD DVR, It takes a Cable Card. So we have a regular plain old cheapo SD cablebox that my roomate uses for her On Demand habit. Also since my DVR only has one tuner its nice to have a second tuner through the cablebox if we don't want to actively watch what we are recording. Its a bit convoluted but it works and is cheaper than getting a official comcast dvr, plus my sony dvr has a 500 gig hard drive, which I believe is a lot bigger than what comcast's had last I checked.

mgpt6
08-17-06, 12:06 PM
Does any one have any word when NFL HD may be added to Comcast -Boston?

chitchatjf
08-17-06, 03:49 PM
Your guess is as good as mine,but i would assume 865 would be the place.

I am not sure if Digital Plus is sufficent or they may have to move the SD version to extended basic.

Gabatta
08-17-06, 03:52 PM
To anyone who has an install recently, how is Comcrap with bringing an HDMI cable? I am moving in a few weeks, my new plasma is getting delivered the day I move into my new condo. The cable "install" is the next day. I requested that they bring an HDMI cable instead of component when I called, but you know how that goes. I will have my components there for a back up.

chitchatjf
08-17-06, 09:30 PM
To anyone who has an install recently, how is Comcrap with bringing an HDMI cable? I am moving in a few weeks, my new plasma is getting delivered the day I move into my new condo. The cable "install" is the next day. I requested that they bring an HDMI cable instead of component when I called, but you know how that goes. I will have my components there for a back up.

If you spoke with an HD specdialist when placing the order I would assume you should be OK

Gabatta
08-17-06, 10:57 PM
If you spoke with an HD specdialist when placing the order I would assume you should be OK

I just called 800-COMCRAP and went through the menus to set up new service, so I am not sure if I spoke to an HD specialist. Is there a special number or menu option I can select to confirm this?

chitchatjf
08-18-06, 09:16 AM
I just called 800-COMCRAP and went through the menus to set up new service, so I am not sure if I spoke to an HD specialist. Is there a special number or menu option I can select to confirm this?

Proboboly someone who knows what you're talking about. (not really) I know when they first instyalled my DVR I ihooked it up myself. :)

If you ASKEED for an HDMI cable,I beklieve you will get one. :)

Gabatta
08-18-06, 12:48 PM
I know when they first instyalled my DVR I ihooked it up myself. :)

Me too. At my old place, the guy did not know how to set the box up at all. After I set it to 16x9 and 1080i, he said "that looks awesome, do you want a job". It's Comcastic!

noreaster0
08-19-06, 11:31 AM
Does any one have any word when NFL HD may be added to Comcast -Boston?

If we go by the report that the NFL Network doubleheader will be shown on iNHD1 (881) on Sunday 8/20. Fulltime NFL HD may not be happening anytime soon. I'm sure if they had a full slate of Thursday night games in HD this season, the channel would be on by September.

bostonseo
08-19-06, 01:35 PM
The HD quality during FOX baseball games is awful. I hate watching baseball on FOX - I hope they improve things by the World Series,,,not that I am counting on the Red Sox being in it :)

The preseason NFL games have looked really good, why is the quality on FOX so bad for baseball ????

hi-rez
08-19-06, 01:51 PM
The HD quality during FOX baseball games is awful. I hate watching baseball on FOX - I hope they improve things by the World Series,,,not that I am counting on the Red Sox being in it :)

The preseason NFL games have looked really good, why is the quality on FOX so bad for baseball ????

Yea it is awful, to the point I'm watching in SD to avoid getting a headache from all of the distortion and artifacts.

I had hoped it was just comcrap, but low and behold my OTA tuner had an identically junky pitcture. :mad:

In other news, anyone have updates on whether comcast will be rolling out better hd dvr boxes anytime soon? The motorola 6412 is painful.

BobColby
08-19-06, 04:21 PM
The HD quality during FOX baseball games is awful. I hate watching baseball on FOX - I hope they improve things by the World Series,,,not that I am counting on the Red Sox being in it :)

The preseason NFL games have looked really good, why is the quality on FOX so bad for baseball ????

That would be because Fox broadcasts regular-season games in Widescreen SD, not HD. And not very good WSSD, either - watch History Detectives on PBS HD to see how good that format can be.

chitchatjf
08-19-06, 04:22 PM
If we go by the report that the NFL Network doubleheader will be shown on iNHD1 (881) on Sunday 8/20. Fulltime NFL HD may not be happening anytime soon. I'm sure if they had a full slate of Thursday night games in HD this season, the channel would be on by September.

NFL Network is part of either the Sports pack ,the Spanish tier,or Digital Plus with most folks getting it as part of digital plus. although it is on channel 265,it can also be seen on channel 715.

I was assuming NFL would require placement on expanded basic as a condition of running the regular season games. The ideal situation would probably be (though i doubt ESPN would like this) would be to move it to channel 48 (OK channel 73 in Boston) and put ESPN Classic as part of digital classic airing it on channel 247 or 249.

NFL Network HD fulltime could easily air on channel 848

samdiesel
08-20-06, 01:35 AM
The cable card is considered a no charge cable box. The "addional outlet" fee still applies.

Why do U keep the cable box? If only U wanna do is access cable tv programming just return the cable box (I did). The lease fee from my cable provider (Cablevision) is $5.74/month forthe cable box withremote but only $1.25 for the cablcard. If U R concerned about the restrictions with cablecard 1.0 (such as inability to order PPV) U can return the cable box and call customer service to order.

samdiesel
08-20-06, 01:45 AM
Are you referring to TV Guide On-Screen, or...?

TVGOS Will Not Work With Cablecard Inserted. If U can download TVGOS listing with cablecard removed but CANNOT download TVGOS listings with cablecard inserted it is MOST LIKELY a cable provider issue (They have not provided a digital (ATSC) host channel to provide a data stream) Call (800) 386-7380 (8:30AM-6PM) press prompt 1 (ignore info about only being for cale providers/manufacturers) & speak to tech! I had the same problem & they have been EXTREMELY helpful in helping me resolve my problems.

thetman
08-20-06, 09:41 AM
please tell me that the pats were not in HD last night- because it looked god awful-thisis my first year with HD -i hope all games on ABC are not like that- now the baseball game on INHD1 was fantastic-unbeleivable picture, wishing they all looked that good.
thetman

Benji
08-20-06, 09:48 AM
The game was in HD only on NFL Network-HD, something we Comcast subscribers are not currently privileged to. You would have needed one of the satellite services to get it in Massachusetts.

Benji
08-20-06, 09:54 AM
The game was in HD only on NFL Network-HD, something we Comcast subscribers are not currently privileged to. You would have needed one of the satellite services to get it in Massachusetts.
Incidentally, you no longer have to worry about the quality of HD-NFL Football from ABC. ABC is out of the Monday Night Football business. No more games on ABC period. WCVB has at least 1 more Pats pre-season game which will probably be SD as well.

L Supreme
08-20-06, 10:42 AM
TVGOS Will Not Work With Cablecard Inserted. If U can download TVGOS listing with cablecard removed but CANNOT download TVGOS listings with cablecard inserted it is MOST LIKELY a cable provider issue (They have not provided a digital (ATSC) host channel to provide a data stream) Call (800) 386-7380 (8:30AM-6PM) press prompt 1 (ignore info about only being for cale providers/manufacturers) & speak to tech! I had the same problem & they have been EXTREMELY helpful in helping me resolve my problems.


You need to map the tv guide to ch 97 to look for the TVGOS data. By default the tv is set to ch 2, but with ADS in place its now 97. How to do it is a different thing all together.

noreaster0
08-20-06, 11:19 AM
The game was in HD only on NFL Network-HD, something we Comcast subscribers are not currently privileged to. You would have needed one of the satellite services to get it in Massachusetts.

Or be a former Adelphia customer. Hopefully Comcast didn't take NFL HD away when they bought the company.

noreaster0
08-20-06, 11:40 AM
I was assuming NFL would require placement on expanded basic as a condition of running the regular season games. The ideal situation would probably be (though i doubt ESPN would like this) would be to move it to channel 48 (OK channel 73 in Boston) and put ESPN Classic as part of digital classic airing it on channel 247 or 249. NFL Network HD fulltime could easily air on channel 848

Putting the low viewed ESPN Classic on digital and replacing it with NFL network would be a great idea. The major roadblock would be a possible higher cost to carry all ESPN channels if Classic was removed from standard cable. "Big Dog ESPN" may have thier own requirements.

chitchatjf
08-20-06, 11:47 AM
Putting the low viewed ESPN Classic on digital and replacing it with NFL network would be a great idea. The major roadblock would be a possible higher cost to carry all ESPN channels if Classic was removed from standard cable. "Big Dog ESPN" may have thier own requirements.

some Comcast areas carry ESPN Classic ONLY on digital. when it was originally Calssic Sports on channel 75 it was part of an extra cost tier that included Fox Movie channel,Bravo,Comedy Central,Sci Fi channel,cartoon network,and comedy central.

I seldom watch ESPN classic,but i do agree it is a good channel.

BobColby
08-20-06, 01:34 PM
The game was in HD only on NFL Network-HD, something we Comcast subscribers are not currently privileged to. You would have needed one of the satellite services to get it in Massachusetts.

According to this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=424081), NFL Network HD seems to be rolling out in a number of Comcast areas. We usually get things early here (first to get MHD, I believe), so this might be a possibility for the near future.

UPDATE: Just checked 881, and they are running an NFL Network HD game in place of the tennis game in the schedule. So this may be a pre-emption deal, like NESN used to be on 882.

NortheasternPJ
08-20-06, 02:53 PM
some Comcast areas carry ESPN Classic ONLY on digital.

In Salem, MA we don't get ESPN Classic at all on Comcast. When OLN came and replaced it on Channel 48, it just disappeared. Family members who live in the next town over still have it though.

Benji
08-20-06, 04:12 PM
The way the Sox are going these days, I wonder if we could get Comcast to swap Food Network HD for NESNHD. I'd much rather watch the team of cooking babes on Food then the disaster before our eyes in HD at Fenway.

samdiesel
08-21-06, 12:05 AM
You need to map the tv guide to ch 97 to look for the TVGOS data. By default the tv is set to ch 2, but with ADS in place its now 97. How to do it is a different thing all together.

Thank U L Supreme. I will discuss as 2 how 2 do this with a TVGOS tech.

dozens
08-21-06, 11:03 AM
You need to map the tv guide to ch 97 to look for the TVGOS data. By default the tv is set to ch 2, but with ADS in place its now 97. How to do it is a different thing all together.

I am not sure what CE device you are using or TVGOS firmware but with mine I am unable to force it use a particular channel for guide data. I believe TVGOS just scans each channel until it finds data and then uses that channel from that point on. I believe your cablecard needs to be configured for an all digital plant and then it will find the info on channel 97.

chitchatjf
08-22-06, 07:03 PM
my question is WIll Ch 38 be carrying Wheel and Jep in HD?

They do have the ability I think shown by recording Enterprise episodes on Friday from the UPN feed and rebroadcast them in hD on Saturdaywhen they showed a Friday night game (also in HD)

This looks like the ONLY HD show on 38 now that they refused to do the MyNetwork TV thing

pedrojunkie
08-23-06, 11:06 AM
I doubt Channel 38 will be showing anything in HD off the bat. HD syndication rights are a tricky thing, thats why you don't see anyone but TNT run syndicated shows of any consequence. (INHD and UHD shows don't count since they are all cancelled, 20 year old, or forgotten shows) Enterprise is cancelled, but its still star trek and any affiliation or inside track with paramamount probrably died with UPN, as technically channel 38 is a competitor now with the CW56. So while 38 might still run Enterprise, they will have to pay a pretty penny for the HD feed and I'm not sure if it will be fiscally responsible for the station to go that route...

Though then again, it might be a statement 38 might like to make. "we play with the big boys" but I doubt it. It doesn't make any buisness sense to me to cater to a tiny slice of the population. My gut says we just lost an HD channel.