Gavi0010, make sure all of your connections are good. If you're getting 5.1, you should also be getting 4.1 since they're practically on top of each other and similar frequency (not UHF vs. VHF).

Gavi0010, make sure all of your connections are good. If you're getting 5.1, you should also be getting 4.1 since they're practically on top of each other and similar frequency (not UHF vs. VHF).

That's what is killing me. I've check and double checked the connections, replaced the cabling, pre-amp, etc. I seem to be real close to getting 4.1 as it will show full strength for half a second before going red and giving the "digital signal too low" message. NBC and ABC go straight to red.

I may have to try a new antenna.

Maybe that's why the other guy moved away. Lousy DTV recption.
Good luck.

Don h

I have a CM 4228 60 miles away in Meriden, KS and can pull in KMBC 9-1 about 80% of the time. Your mileage may vary. Make sure you order the CM 7775 Pre-amp with it. I think mine may have gone kaput a week ago, and it sure makes a difference.
I bought the Winegard AP8275 amp.

http://www.warrenelectronics.com/antennas/ap8275.htm

It had the hightest gain for both UHF and VHF. If I'm not putting the antenna above my roofline, do I need to ground it?

If I'm not putting the antenna above my roofline, do I need to ground it?

If it's outside, definitely. What you're trying to do is bleed off static electricity that builds up from air friction (wind).

If it's inside (attic) it isn't required, but it couldn't hurt.

Brad

Has anyone had a DVR record past the end of a program? We have a dual HD DVR from Comcast and every once in a while it will record past the end of a program and it is difficult to figure out how to stop it.
I will be calling Comcast about this, but I was just wondering if anyone has experienced a similar problem.

My DVR has a setting that you can set to record 1 minute past, 5 minutes past, 30 minutes past or 1 hour past. I don't have Comcast or Time Warner however. Maybe your DVR has this activated somehow?

I'm fairly new to HDTV so forgive me if anything sounds off. I currently have DirecTV, no HD yet as I'm waiting for more stations before I shell out the $.

My problem has been getting DTV OTA. I'm using a medium sized directional rooftop antenna w/ a preamp. It was on the house when I moved in so it's probably 5-10 years old. I ran new cable to it, pointed it (the channels I'm hoping for are basically between 300-320 degrees compass heading) and hooked it up to the antenna input on my HDTV.

I've been really dissappointed so far. I can pick up only a couple of DTV channels, 5.1 (CBS), 19.x (PBS) and 29.1 (CW). I'd like to get get FOX, NBC and ABC but haven't had any luck. I've tried some different orientations & such but can't get anything else. In fact, I got the three DTV stations I'm getting now with just an indoor antenna.

My question is how come I can receive CBS, which according to antenna web I'm 17 miles from, but can't receive FOX, NBC or ABC, which are 18, 15 and 11 miles away, respectively. Is CBS signal strength just that much better? All are fairly close in compass heading...CBS-306, FOX-305, NBC-290, ABC-317.

Any help would be much appreciated


Have you tried using the outdoor VHF/UHF antenna with out the preamp? I am about twenty eight miles from the towers and a preamp just wipes out my normal 85-100% signals. I dump the preamp and all my local Kansas City digital OTA signals are locked in good now. :)

Looks like the cable boxes are going Over-the-Air soon. http://www.a.engadgethd.com/2007/04/26/motorola-to-demo-cable-stb-with-atsc-tuner/ :)

Boston Comcast is adding Food Network HD and HGTV HD 30-45 days so made Comcast here will add them to.

I'm putting together an easier to use list, for noobs like myself. Let me know if I should add anything or if I need to correct something.

When I'm done I'll stick it on my website, along with a PDF. I'm going to try to put together a noob beginner guide for the KC area. Mainly for my friends who have new HD tv's and don't even use it.

Send me any updates in a PM.

Ok, maybe my most of my work was already done. I'm just putting the two together and maybe some basic instructions for beginners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_media_in_Kansas_City

there is a similar one for Topeka. Here is version 2 of my list.

Ok, maybe my most of my work was already done. I'm just putting the two together and maybe some basic instructions for beginners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_media_in_Kansas_City

there is a similar one for Topeka. Here is version 2 of my list.


So, maybe I missed something. whats with the metro sports channel 30. Is this accessible over the air?

Metro Sports is only available via Time Warner, Comcast, and Sunflower cable.

A article on the growing return of Over-the-Air television reception. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070429/ap_on_hi_te/rabbit_ear_revival_10

Everest and AT&T U-Verse also carry's it.

Everest and AT&T U-Verse also carry's it.

Unless Everest just added it, they DO NOT carry Metro Sports. AT&T U-Verse also does not carry it as I have U-Verse and it isn't there.

Unless Everest just added it, they DO NOT carry Metro Sports. AT&T U-Verse also does not carry it as I have U-Verse and it isn't there.
I think Everest Carries a channel labeled RSTN. I don't have Everest but a few of my friends do, and I saw that channel there and I imagine the channel only goes live when the Royals are on RSTN. Not sure why Everest just doesn't use the Fox Sports Midwest feed.

Has anyone noticed that Comcast (in Olathe) has removed the western feed of Encore (channel 151)? Also, is anyone having problems with any of the Encore or Starz channels being seen on the HD box?

The best bet is for you to contact Everest and AT&T U-Verse to see why they don't carry the channel or Metro Sports to see if they are going to be carryed on those Cable Systems.
Also Royals games should be shown on Metro Sports because it's a local Sports Network and let FSN Midwest show Cardinals Baseball games and another thing is here that Comcast should rename FSN Midwest to Comcast KC Sports Net and also in the rest of MO FSN should be called FSN MO or St. Louis.

Hi everyone,

My brother is moving to Leawood Kansas in a couple weeks. What are the chances of a simple OTA Antenna picking up any channels? I know his apt is on the upper floor, so that should help.

Is it possible to pickup the Kansas City Channels?

Thanks!

From Leawood, the transmitters are to the north, northeast, and east-northeast, and none is farther than 10-15 miles. Shouldn't be a problem, especially if his apartment is on the north or east side of the building. (His mileage may vary, of course).

Brad

I received something in the mail from TWC today, and it says that StarzHD and ESPN2HD are now available. I have Starz HD on my program guide, but I don't see anything for ESPN2HD. WTF?

I doubt you will see Metro Sports on Everst or AT&T. This is because Metro Sports is owned and operated by Time Warner Cable and competes directly with Everest and AT&T for subscribers.

On a side note... file under "Who Cares" but AT&T is picking up the Johnson County CC Channel in the near future, as well as Everest.

Ok, I thought that I could just aim my antenna at Topeka and pick up the ABC station there so i could get Lost in HD. No dice, they aren't broadcasting in HD yet.

I have the CM4228 antenna and a Winegard 8275 preamp. What are my options for picking up the VHF broadcast of channel 9? When I have it aimed JUST right, I get a really crappy signal that goes in and out. Can I add a VHF antenna, or maybe a VHF filter or something. I really like the 4228 because I can put it on the side of my house below the fence line and it is completely un-noticable. I don't think sticking a big VHF antenna on the roof is an option. What are some ideas?

Thanks to everybody so far that has helped me.

What are my options for picking up the VHF broadcast of channel 9? When I have it aimed JUST right, I get a really crappy signal that goes in and out. Can I add a VHF antenna, or maybe a VHF filter or something. I really like the 4228 because I can put it on the side of my house below the fence line and it is completely un-noticable. I don't think sticking a big VHF antenna on the roof is an option. What are some ideas?

Well, for the first year or so I picked up 9.1 via a set of rabbit ears taped to a window that faced the direction of Kansas City. Since you live in Ottawa, that may be more difficult as you probably don't have a northeast-facing window. Do a Google search for Jointenna... you could get one optimized for VHF 7. However, I think after the 2009 switchover, KMBC will move their signal to VHF 9, so the jointenna would be worthless (except maybe to pick up Pittsburg).

Because it's VHF, the signal is more likely to experience breakups even with a good antenna. But the rabbit ears are actually better than any dish- or grid- shaped antenna for VHF.

Another option if you have DirecTV is to "move" in order to get HD Distant Networks. Do a search at dbstalk or dbsforums to find out more about that option.

Didn't know they got rid of that channel. You might call or Email Comcast to find out why thye got rid of it and if you get an anwser you could report here.No Message on the TV for thst or that INDHD became MOJO. They probley got rid of that channel to give more bandwith or to add another On Demand Link channel or maybe even Hallmark Movie Channel or BBMania or Fox Movie Channel or IFC or some other Movie that Comcast here doesn't have yet.
Still have the other Encore west Feeds.
Independence and Blue Springs Comcast viewers do you still have that channel?
Comcast Olathe should add the Johnson County CC channel and any other Johnson County Goverment Channel.
They are a competitor but they still should add Metro Sports and Metro Weather or start they own local Sports,Weather and alos News channels. Also Metro weather should be added to Comcast.

Didn't know they got rid of that channel. You might call or Email Comcast to find out why thye got rid of it and if you get an anwser you could report here.No Message on the TV for thst or that INDHD became MOJO. They probley got rid of that channel to give more bandwith or to add another On Demand Link channel or maybe even Hallmark Movie Channel or BBMania or Fox Movie Channel or IFC or some other Movie that Comcast here doesn't have yet.
Still have the other Encore west Feeds.
Independence and Blue Springs Comcast viewers do you still have that channel?
Comcast Olathe should add the Johnson County CC channel and any other Johnson County Goverment Channel.
They are a competitor but they still should add Metro Sports and Metro Weather or start they own local Sports,Weather and alos News channels. Also Metro weather should be added to Comcast.

I called Comcast, but their local number now rolls into one of their call centers. I spoke to a call center rep in Indiana yesterday (Wednesday), and he said that Encore-West should still be active on our system. I also complained that channel 150 (Encore) and all non-HD Starz channels (370-376, 380) gives me a message of "One Moment Please. This channel should be available shortly." This message appears on these channels on all three of my digital boxes (2 HD, 1 SD). Therefore, I don't think it's an equipment problem. Also, all of these channels were working fine on Monday.

And, yes, channel 206 is now listed as "MOJO" in the TV guide listings.

I've seen this question asked several times with no answer, so here's what I know.

I don't have HD service, just the basic analog channels, but on Everest I can pick up most of the OTA channels, TNT, and a bunch of Urge music channels in HD QAM.

I haven't found KTAJ (TBN), KMCI (38 the Spot), KPXE (ION), or KSMO (WB).

These are the channels that I can pick up:

81-3 KCTV (CBS 5.1)
83-1 PPV ads
85-3 KCWE (UPN 29.1)
86-300 TNT
88-9 PPV ads
100-2 WDAF (FOX 4.1)
108-2 PPV ads
108-3 OUTDR (Outdoor)
110-3 KSHB (NBC 41.1)
110-4 KSHB (NBC weather 41.2)
110-6 KMBC (ABC 9.1)
111-2 KCPT1 (PBS)
111-4 PBSHD (PBS)
111-7 KCPT Creat (PBS)
111-8 KCPT4 (PBS)
117-11 EWTN

The Urge music channels are:

125-1 TRL
125-2 Blast
125-3 Grind
125-4 Neon
125-5 Cover to Cover
125-6 Plush
125-7 VH1 I love the 70's
125-8 VH1 I love the 80's
125-9 VH1 I love the 90's
125-10 Gold
125-11 Discotech
125-12 Vinyl
125-13 Ultrasound
125-14 MTV2
125-15 Reunion
125-16 Rocks
125-17 Crunch
125-18 Axis
125-19 MTV2 Headbangers Ball
125-20 Nu Groove
125-21 Soul City
125-22 hip nod ics
125-23 Dope
125-24 VH1 Soul
125-25 CMT
125-26 Bluegrass Radio
125-27 Diner
125-28 Wide Open Country
125-29 Ragga
125-30 Pegao
125-31 MTV Tr3s
125-32 Manteca
125-33 Radio Alterna
125-34 Tejano
125-35 Big World
125-36 Oasis
125-37 Smoke
125-38 Blues Part II
125-39 Opera Babylon
125-40 Crescendo
125-41 Celebration
125-42 Praise
125-43 Unforgettable
125-44 Jazz Broadway
125-45 Cinema
125-46 Voice Box

From Leawood, the transmitters are to the north, northeast, and east-northeast, and none is farther than 10-15 miles. Shouldn't be a problem, especially if his apartment is on the north or east side of the building. (His mileage may vary, of course).

Brad

Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

What antenna has the best bet for good reception in this area? I'm down south in Nixa MO, and have been using a Philips brand Silver Antenna at WalMart for $29.95...works great even in my basement. Would this be a good choice for leawood?

I received something in the mail from TWC today, and it says that StarzHD and ESPN2HD are now available. I have Starz HD on my program guide, but I don't see anything for ESPN2HD. WTF?

ESPN2HD is supposed to start tomorrow.

Did you call the number on your bill because theirs one for MO and other for KS?
Have you tryed and Emailing them? I have Emailed them before wqith my Questions they Email me back.
You could just got to the Olathe Comcast Office to get your questions anwsered.
No URGETV yet.

as per a prior post (I saw no reply, so mentioning again), sometime around March Madness TWC in KC seemed to change their HDTV QAM channels to encrypt even the basic local ones- did anyone else notice this, and is there any way to get those channels without a STB?

I understand premium channels being unavailable, but the locals? gimme a break!!! even the public TV channels are encrypted...

ESPN2HD is supposed to start tomorrow.

It did!!!!!

They moved ESPN-HD to 1497 and ESPN2-HD to 1498!

HBO-14 is gone from Comcast.
You could be living in South Overland Park and a Friend lives in North Olverland Park and that person gets different channels then you do on a Antenna.
If enoth people demand to Comcast,Eveest and AT&T U-Verse that they add MYKSMOTVHD and Metro Weather they would have to probley.
For Comcast to add like TNT HD or HDNET they have to sign agreement.

I would put Metro Weather into the Metro Sports catagory as they are owned and operated by Time Warner Cable so you won't see them on Everest or AT&T. I could see Comcast getting Metro Weather though through the same agreement that exists with Comcast.

Everest has WeatherScan which is a local version of the Weather Channel. It is on channel 451 I believe. AT&T could add this channel if they wanted. Plus they could add the KSHB Weather Plus channel too.

Well, for the first year or so I picked up 9.1 via a set of rabbit ears taped to a window that faced the direction of Kansas City. Since you live in Ottawa, that may be more difficult as you probably don't have a northeast-facing window. Do a Google search for Jointenna... you could get one optimized for VHF 7. However, I think after the 2009 switchover, KMBC will move their signal to VHF 9, so the jointenna would be worthless (except maybe to pick up Pittsburg).

Another option if you have DirecTV is to "move" in order to get HD Distant Networks. Do a search at dbstalk or dbsforums to find out more about that option.

So once they move to VHF 9, my 4228 should be able to pick it up a little better? In the mean time, I talked to a guy at Warren Electronics and he said that I could get a second VHF antenna and use a channel 7 jointenna. BUT, the whole reason I got the 4228 was because it was flat and somewhat unobtrusive. I can't stick a 50" antenna on the side of the house without my wife killing me. If I have the preamp, and I put a large pair of rabbit ears on the jointenna, shouldn't that be at least a little better than the 4228, since it doesn't pick up VHF below 8?

I have DishNetwork, but I don't subscribe to the HD package (because it is $20 a month for something that I know is free).

Comcast owns Weatherscan so no way it can be on Everest. If those other Cable Companies here want to hook agreement with TWCKC for Metro Weather/Sports they could.
Now if KMBC wanted to start their ACCUWEATHER channel they could.
Their use to be News Central here but Sinclair who started it got rid of it so maybe somebody else will start up a Local 24 hour TV News channel here like called Metro News.
KMBC will be in their new building by the end of June.

So what does it mean that KMBC will be in their new building? Stronger signal?

WeatherScan is owned by THE WEATHER CHANNEL and Everest has had the channel for a long time. Check out channel 451 at

http://www.everestkc.com/cable/channel_lineup.shtml

and

http://www.weather.com/aboutus/television/weatherscan/

You're getting locally produced channels and the Time Warner/Comcast corporate owned national cable television channels mixed up. If this was the case, AT&T and Everest wouldn't have CNN and TBS, TNT ect.

Metro Weather & Metro Sports are produced in-house at Time Warner Cable. They wouldn't sell those services which set them apart from Everest and AT&T when they are competing directly with those two companies for subscribers. Metro Sports is on Comcast and Sunflower Broadband because Time Warner cable doesn't compete with those two companies for subscribers. Everest and AT&T are a direct THREAT to Time Warner Cable and TWC will do everything in their power to use what they have to keep and expand their subscriber base.

151 Encore West is back on.

So what does it mean that KMBC will be in their new building? Stronger signal? KMBC's new building has a state-of-the-art digital high definition news room studio. They are rumored to be starting Kansas City's first HD local news broadcast this fall. When they do, I will watch ONLY their newscast until other local news stations do the same.

But will it do anything to the signal? Are they going to be using the same tower, etc?

To say that the 4228 doesn't pick up VHF 7 is not entirely correct. For the past year I've been getting 9.1 via my 4228. It's not a perfect signal (varies with the weather), but I get it. I'm not sure why you are having difficulty, since you are somewhat closer than I. Probably a combination of terrain and multipath working against you.

To answer your question, yes, the addition of rabbit ears should help, but they probably should either be outside or by the window... the exterior wall could seriously diminish the signal.

So dish won't give you the locals via satellite unless you buy the HD package? Ask your wife if the big ugly VHF antenna is worth saving $20 per month! ;-)

MYFOXKC is the most powerful HD Station in the area so yo would think they would have their News already in HD.
KMBC just hired a new Weather Ladie and a Sportscaster.
Karen K. is L.Dawson backup.
Comcast is place for new release Movies in HD.

Well, the 4228 isn't mounted on my roof. I think I would end up single if I stuck an antenna on the roof. It is on the north side of our house, mounted on a basement egress window, pointing northeast. Every once in a while, I will get a severely degraded signal from VHF 7. I get the local stations from Dish, just not in HD. If I want any HD content from them, I have to pay for the entire HD package, including KungFu HD, and and bunch of other crap stations.

I have DishNetwork, but I don't subscribe to the HD package (because it is $20 a month for something that I know is free).

Actually, this isn't true. Dish's HD package includes NO local channels at all - only "National" HD channels (current count is around 30). In the Kansas City DMA, if you subscribe to SD Dish locals ($5/mo), you ALSO get ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX in HD. You can subscribe to the locals without the HD pack, but I think they charge you a $6/mo "HD enabling fee" or something lame like that.

If you have the 622 DVR (which has an ATSC OTA tuner, also), subscribing to the Dish locals is actually a pretty good idea for a couple of reasons:
1. You get program info for your OTA locals in the program guide (makes DVR-ing OTA's very simple).
2. You can record three local network shows in HD simultaneously (two off the satellite and one OTA).

At any rate, don't be confused about the $20 HD pack (personally, I think it's a pretty good deal). Check out THIS LINK (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/index.shtml) for details. :cool:

Brad

I guess I'm still a little confused. What good does it to me to pay the $6/mo HD enabling fee if I don't have the HD receiver? Don't I need the HD receiver to get the HD signal from Dish? How would I have the 622DVR without subscribing to the $20/mo DishHD package?

Let me get this straight also, if I have the DishHD DVR, then I basically have 3 tuners instead of the 2 I have now with Dish DVR? 2 from the SAT and 1 OTA? And I can DVR the OTA signal, it isn't just a pass through?

You know, I could keep feeding you bits of help, or you could just go to the ultimate source:
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/

I think mounting the 4228 on the egress window is probably too low. If you could mount it under the eave or just above it, the elevation could really work in your favor. But as you'll read in the primer above, sometimes inches help due to the nature of E-M waves. And if the wife complains, let her stick some plastic flowers in it and it becomes a decorative trellis! (real ones could interfere with the wonderful receptive qualities of the 4228.

Thanks, Brad for the tip on Dish and SAT locals in HD. I don't have Dish, and even if I did, my county is in the Topeka DMA... :(

I guess I'm still a little confused. What good does it to me to pay the $6/mo HD enabling fee if I don't have the HD receiver? Don't I need the HD receiver to get the HD signal from Dish? How would I have the 622DVR without subscribing to the $20/mo DishHD package?

Let me get this straight also, if I have the DishHD DVR, then I basically have 3 tuners instead of the 2 I have now with Dish DVR? 2 from the SAT and 1 OTA? And I can DVR the OTA signal, it isn't just a pass through?

You do need a HD receiver (which you can buy or lease). They have some pretty good lease deals available, but, personally, unless you are interested in the national HD channels, I don't think it would be worth paying the lease fee ($6/mo) plus the HD enabling fee ($6/mo) plus the locals fee ($5/mo). The lease fee would take the place of a "second receiver" fee if you're replacing a second receiver. You should talk to a Dish CSR - there are other offers out there (such as "DVR Advantage) that I don't know much about, especially if you're upgrading to HD for the first time.

Yes, you have 3 tuners with a 622 - 2 sat and 1 OTA. You can record with all three at once, and watch two previously-recorded programs (on two tv's) at the same time!

Brad

151 Encore West is back on.

I found out the problem with Comcast's digital box signals for Encore and Starz over the last week. Apparently, the Starz movie channels (370-380) changed their transmission frequencies, even though their channels remained the same. The tech that came over on Monday night had to go out to the main box where the main cable line is split to the houses in the neighborhood and remove a "filter" that had been preventing the Starz and Encore frequencies from being sent to the box.

Also, Encore West (channel 151) was inadvertantly removed because someone at Comcast's head end forgot to restore the channel to the system following some shifting of cable channels that took place on 04/30/2007. This was corrected by 6:00 PM on Monday.

But no channels were shifted here in Olathe on Comcast only HBO 14 was taken out and INHD was renamed to MOJO and I checked Independence's Lineup and no channels I can see that moved but did see on TV planner for Olathe and Independence that it shows TMC-98 and IND1-99 when those 2 channel numbers aren't even in our lineup yet.
Fuel TV Has hook up agreement with Comcast so it might be in our lineup soon.
Comcast-On Sports Entertainment Pack

Please be advised if you currently have NFL Network, it is being moved to the Sports Entertainment Pack. Go to www.comcast.com/sportspack for more information.

Did anybody have issues with House last night on FOX HD? I wasn't home to watch it but I recorded it on my DVR and it is way over scanned on the right and repeating the image. It also had a ghosting effect on colors on the screen (which is weird for HD) and the WDAF-DT logo looked shifted to the right. Since I couldn't check it OTA did anybody else notice anything or was this a weird problem with my DVR last night? I recorded something today and it looks fine but wanted to check.

Did anybody have issues with House last night on FOX HD? I wasn't home to watch it but I recorded it on my DVR and it is way over scanned on the right and repeating the image. It also had a ghosting effect on colors on the screen (which is weird for HD) and the WDAF-DT logo looked shifted to the right. Since I couldn't check it OTA did anybody else notice anything or was this a weird problem with my DVR last night? I recorded something today and it looks fine but wanted to check.


I watched it OTA and it was fine. Who is your provider?

AT&T U-Verse is my provider. It appears cleared up now, but AT&T is known for having crappy HD quality. When something is on OTA and I'm home I always try to watch it OTA.

hello everyone. just had a quick question which i hope someone could help me with. as of 2-3 weeks ago, i no longer receive analog or digital signals from kmbc. i don't have cable or dish, just use an uhf/vhf attic antenna. i was getting everything perfectly until then. i had it on a saturday and it was gone on sunday. i have an sd set which receives the analog signal crystal clear with just a cheapo antenna on top, but get nothing on my hd set connected to the attic antenna. i've tried several different antennas on my hd set with no luck. i live around 64th and oak, not far from the tower at all. my attic antenna is pointed directly, or as close as i can get, to the tower. i even went as far as to take my hdtv up to the attic so i could watch as i adjusted the antenna. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks

hello everyone. just had a quick question which i hope someone could help me with. as of 2-3 weeks ago, i no longer receive analog or digital signals from kmbc. i don't have cable or dish, just use an uhf/vhf attic antenna. i was getting everything perfectly until then. i had it on a saturday and it was gone on sunday. i have an sd set which receives the analog signal crystal clear with just a cheapo antenna on top, but get nothing on my hd set connected to the attic antenna. i've tried several different antennas on my hd set with no luck. i live around 64th and oak, not far from the tower at all. my attic antenna is pointed directly, or as close as i can get, to the tower. i even went as far as to take my hdtv up to the attic so i could watch as i adjusted the antenna. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks

Welcome goldfinger76. :) Have you tried to rescan the airwaves with your digital tuner on your HDTV? Does your digital turner see any signal strength on Over-the-Air channel DT-07 (KMBC)?

thanks for the promp reply jeffdbs. yep, i've scanned and rescanned and nothing. no signal strength at all on 7. when i did get kmbc, it was always 9 (analog) and 9-1 for the digital signal. i've never picked up anything on 7. it's the same for every station 4, 4-1, etc. i can get 33 channels in all ota. just no kmbc anymore which i can't figure out. even family members in lawrence can get it with no problem. this may be a dumb question, is it possible for a tuner to go bad and not be able to pick up a certain signal. i just assumed something new was interfering with my ability to pick up the signal. i have no idea, it's just very irritating. thanks for your help though.

I think I have a DVR issue. I have a dual tuner HD tuner from Comcast and the last several days the sound would go out at times while watching either a recorded program or live.
When watching a recording just backing up a minute and starting again usually clears up the problem. When watching live just changing channels back and forth clears it up.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

this may be a dumb question, is it possible for a tuner to go bad and not be able to pick up a certain signal. i just assumed something new was interfering with my ability to pick up the signal. i have no idea, it's just very irritating. thanks for your help though.[/QUOTE]

I think you hit the nail on the head regarding the tuner. Apparently there are different tuners for the low band VHF channels and the high band VHF channels, (this may NOT be the proper terminology but the idea is right) as well as the UHF channels.

I had the exact same thing happen on my old Sony Sat-200 Directv tuner. After some investigation, I found that ONLY channel 9 wasn't coming in. Turns out it was the only HD channel on VHS low band. I replaced my tuner and sure enough, 9 was back.

I even gave my old Sat 200 to my neighbor so he could get OTA, with the caveat that he'd get everything BUT 9 (aka 7) and sure enough it still works great except for that channel.

I've forgotten exactly how I ferreted out the issue, but that was the problem.

Good luck!

Embo_9

PS. Here is the initial list of stations, this may have changed, and their frequencies. You'll see 9 is the only VHF station.

4.1 WDAF-DT 720P 34 FOX-HD 720P
5.1 KCTV-DT 1080I 24 CBS-HD 1080I
9.1 KMBC-DT 720P 7 ABC-HD 720P
19.1 KCPT-DT 720P 18 PBS-HD 1080I
19.2 KCPT-DT 480 18 PBS 480I
29.1 KCWE-DT 1080I 31 UPN-HD 1080I
38.1 KMCI-DT 1080I 36 INDEPENDENT
41.1 KSHB-DT 1080I 42 NBC-HD 1080I
50.1-4 KPXE-DT 480 51 "I" 480I
62.1 KSMO-DT 1080I 47 WB-HD 1080I

thanks for the info embo_9. i guess i'll look into an hd tuner. i just couldn't figure out why i had it, then lost it. annoying isn't it. anyway, thanks for yor help. much appreciated.

goldie, another possible reason you lost KMBC-DT 9.1 (VHF 7) is that some electronic device is causing interference. I would suggest if you can get ahold of a friend's digital tuner to try it on your antenna. If it also doesn't work, then there may be an intereference problem that buying another tuner won't solve.

That close, you should be able to pick up VHF 7 with rabbit ears, easily.

Did anyone else have trouble with WDAF's digital broadcast during last night's episode of 24? My Windows Media PC was set to record, but it missed it. Investigating, I find out my tuner card is no longer detecting a signal on my Cats Eye tuner card for WDAF for some reason (but I do get a strong signal for everything else). It has been rock solid to this point, so I can't imagine it's a signal problem at my home. Especially since my LG set top tuner that's connected to my TV is pulling in WDAF 4.1 just fine ... and from the same antenna. One can imagine my dismay when I found out I didn't get the 2 hour finale recorded.

Anyone with comments?

I had no problems with 24 on the DVR (through Everest). But I had problems with Heroes breaking up pretty bad for about 2 minutes somewhat early in the episode. But it cleared up after the commercial break. Anyone else experience this?

Did anyone else have trouble with WDAF's digital broadcast during last night's episode of 24? My Windows Media PC was set to record, but it missed it. Investigating, I find out my tuner card is no longer detecting a signal on my Cats Eye tuner card for WDAF for some reason (but I do get a strong signal for everything else). It has been rock solid to this point, so I can't imagine it's a signal problem at my home. Especially since my LG set top tuner that's connected to my TV is pulling in WDAF 4.1 just fine ... and from the same antenna. One can imagine my dismay when I found out I didn't get the 2 hour finale recorded.

Anyone with comments?

I completely understand your frustration as it has happened to me with WDAF twice before. Once for Prison Break and once for 24. But yesterday was good for me. My Sony DHG-HDD250 HD-DVR recorded the two hours perfectly through my OTA antenna. I watched it later last night. I live in northern Lee's Summit closer to Independence. I have never had problems with other channels. Once in a while WDAF acts funny!!

Hi...new here so excuse me if I say anything or do anything silly!

We'll be moving to Lawrence at the end of the month and I was wondering if we'd be able to pick up any HD signals from KC. Right now we're in Emporia 50 miles from Topeka towers and get PBS all the time with CBS and ABC available around 80% of the time. Can't get NBC except at night with cloud cover.

We have a Winegard Square-Shooter 2000 with preamp. Reading through the posts here I was just curious at what power the stations in KC broadcast in. I'd really like to get ABC in HD but I see that might be a problem. Anybody in here from Lawrence and can give me an idea of what to expect?

Thanks!!!

Hi...new here so excuse me if I say anything or do anything silly!

We'll be moving to Lawrence at the end of the month and I was wondering if we'd be able to pick up any HD signals from KC. Right now we're in Emporia 50 miles from Topeka towers and get PBS all the time with CBS and ABC available around 80% of the time. Can't get NBC except at night with cloud cover.

We have a Winegard Square-Shooter 2000 with preamp. Reading through the posts here I was just curious at what power the stations in KC broadcast in. I'd really like to get ABC in HD but I see that might be a problem. Anybody in here from Lawrence and can give me an idea of what to expect?

Thanks!!!

Try the Topeka HD forum. You might find out more from them.

Don H.

Sorry if this is in the wrong area, but I have a question regarding providers in the KC area.

I've been living in Lee's Summit and I have TimeWarner (internet, digital cable, dvr). I pay ~$95 per month.

Now, I just bought a house in Greenwood (couple miles south) and Comcast is the provider. For the same services, they want $132.

Are there any satellite providers or phone companies that offer cable/internet services in the area? (AT&T does not have DSL in the area).

Thanks

Sorry if this is in the wrong area, but I have a question regarding providers in the KC area.

I've been living in Lee's Summit and I have TimeWarner (internet, digital cable, dvr). I pay ~$95 per month.

Now, I just bought a house in Greenwood (couple miles south) and Comcast is the provider. For the same services, they want $132.

Are there any satellite providers or phone companies that offer cable/internet services in the area? (AT&T does not have DSL in the area).

Thanks

Nope, you're stuck with Comcast in Greenwood. I just moved from there in March. Comcast TV kept going out for me so I paid the extra $ to have D* for TV and Comcast for Internet. The funny (or frustrating) part about it is, the second you step foot outside of Greenwood you can get AT&T DSL, which you could package with their phone to get a pretty good deal. Oh well.

AT&t U-Verse is coming to Lees Summit soon so maybe to Greenwood to.

AT&t U-Verse is coming to Lees Summit soon so maybe to Greenwood to.

Where did you hear that? I live in Lee's Summit!! However, I am more interested in data only package rather than video, etc. I am only HD-OTA right now and I plan to be that way. May be they will have a 30 day trial or something I can participate in.

http://www.uverseusers.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,2/topic,717.0/

I can't get KMBC over the air and I live RIGHT downtown.......I get the analog (ch. 9) fuzzy and can't get the 9.1 OTA at all. I get NBC, ABC and Fox fine. I'm using a regular antenna with a dial for adjust UHF and VHF. I don't want to spend extra $$$ on another antenna, and I figure living downtown I should be getting this OTA. Anyone have any advice or help? Thanks!

I can't get KMBC over the air and I live RIGHT downtown.......I get the analog (ch. 9) fuzzy and can't get the 9.1 OTA at all. I get NBC, ABC and Fox fine. I'm using a regular antenna with a dial for adjust UHF and VHF. I don't want to spend extra $$$ on another antenna, and I figure living downtown I should be getting this OTA. Anyone have any advice or help? Thanks!


Have you been able to receive digital OTA 7.1 (9.1 KMBC-DT) on your indoor antenna before this problem? Is your indoor antenna using a preamp?

Have you been able to receive digital OTA 7.1 (9.1 KMBC-DT) on your indoor antenna before this problem? Is your indoor antenna using a preamp?

No I just moved here. I actually managed to get 9.1 OTA with just a regular antenna for a few days, then, this morning, it just went out again. Have rescanned and the TV won't find the signal at all. Really starting to be annoying, as like I said, I'm RIGHT downtown.

I'm thinking you might actually be TOO CLOSE to the KMBC-DT transmitter and it is overpowering your antenna. I read on this forum about that before but sounds like a possibility.

Also, since KMBC-DT is a VHF digital station you might check and see if you have an electronic devise nearby that is causing interference. That frequency is subject to interference pretty easily (I can't get KMBC-DT where I live either) something like a powered antenna, a radio, microwave, about any electronic devise.

I am scheduled to have AT&T U-verse installed tomorrow. I saw one person on here talking about crappy HD quality for AT&T HD. Has anyone on here made this move? Can you share any impressions regarding HD quality, regular channel quality, DVR, etc.

Thanks.

PPSYCLONE44:

I got U-Verse back in April and I would have this review:

1. The SD channels look fine. I really enjoy having the East and West coast feed of a lot of the channels for viewing on a time-shifted basis.

2. I love the guide, and I really like the web remote so I can log into my DVR and schedule and update programs, what's on the hard drive, and see what is on now.

3. Yes, the HD channels pretty much suck. I would blame this on bad encoders on AT&T's end. If you watch NHL Hockey on KSHB-DT through U-Verse it will have frame loss so it looks a little jerky. I'm lucky enough that I get the locals (Minus ABC) over the air so if something is on local HD I just watch with the antenna. HGTV-DT looks jerky as well, but National Geographic Channel looks okay. The only other place you're going to get this many HD channels is with DISH or DirecTV. It is a trade-off...

Also, NO PBS, CW, or MNTV in HD.

4. The Weather Channel has NO local information. Even Dish Network has the banner at the bottom that tells you current and forecast conditions for the largest cities in the country. I think the least AT&T could have done was purchased a IntelliStar system and installed it so we could get a local forecast on the Weather Channel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelliStar

A new channel called "PEG" should appear later this summer on channel 99. From what I've heard, they are going to use it as a local educational channel, but don't expect to see channels like JCCC-TV there, as AT&T wanted a HUGE amount of money each year to show it. I know JCCC-TV said no, but I don't know about any of the other local educational channels.

Side Note: JCCC-TV will be coming to EVEREST later this summer after the college and Everest bury a cable under College Blvd. in Overland Park.

I have had AT&T U-Verse now for a few months and am overall very happy with it. The HD quality is a little artifacted at times, but everyone is compressing the hell out of their HD anymore to try to squeeze as much content as they can on their limited bandwidths (DISH, DIRECTV, TWC, etc). The DVR box sometimes jumps suddenly when fastforwarding or rewinding (Microsoft IPTV software glitch) which should be fixed in software updates. Still waiting for KCWE-DT (CW HD) too. Coming soon, networked DVR throughout the house and multiple HD streams (currently only get one per household at a time).

Moving to KC.....

I'm moving to the KC area (Overland Park) and was curious about the relative quality, service, experience that people have experienced with Time Warner, Everest, D*, and E*. AT&T U-Verse is not available in my area

Any differences between HD and SD?

Problems with the satellite services in inclement weather?

I know that's a rather broad topic, but I figure nobody knows the topic better than the members of this forum.

Thanks in advance.

rdcullen,

I had TWC and switched to Everest last September. You're fortunate in that since Everest is available, TWC's rates are much lower to stay competitive -- price is pretty much a wash when comparing the two. I'm sure you know all the pluses and minuses associated with D* and E*, so I'll stick with a TWC vs. Everest comparison.

I changed to Everest because of my frustration with TWC to add content quickly -- pretty much because they didn't have ESPN2HD and ESPNU until very recently. Everest has a heritage of top-notch customer service, but I've sent several e-mails that never got answered. Now that all the offerings are pretty much the same (since I changed), I'd have to say that TWC is a bit better. I was hoping Everest would be more nimble to add content, but I haven't found that to be the case.

I don't know what programming is important to you (for me -- sports, mostly, and as much HD as possible), but TWC offers (and runs) Metro Sports - a local poor-man's version of FSN. But I miss it not having it on Everest. They both carry the SA-8300HD, but Everest uses the SARA os and TWC has the Pioneer (I think) OS. The guide and DVR are much, much better on TWC -- this is a fairly big source of contention for me. I didn't think it'd matter that much, but it did. Particularly with the options associated with recording multiple episodes of a show -- much, much, much better on TWC.

I'm moving within OP over the next few months and have been trying to decide who to use. I think I'm between TWC and D* at this point. Take that for what it's worth. D* seems to add new networks so quickly, and if their promised add'l HD capacity fulfills the promises, it looks hard to beat. Especially since they have all the sports packages (I need my Sunday Ticket) I'm always just a little weary of weather-related outages.

Sorry if this was TMI, but figured I could speak from experience about both TWC and Everest.

That's perfect. I really appreciate it.

Have you noticed in difference in picture quality or compression between Everest and TWC?

Has anyone experience weather-related outages with D*?

PQ is roughly equal for HD on both; SD is somewhat better with Everest.

WOW!!! NBC can now give weather warnings in HD. Sorry if it is old news.

I'm thinking you might actually be TOO CLOSE to the KMBC-DT transmitter and it is overpowering your antenna. I read on this forum about that before but sounds like a possibility.

Also, since KMBC-DT is a VHF digital station you might check and see if you have an electronic devise nearby that is causing interference. That frequency is subject to interference pretty easily (I can't get KMBC-DT where I live either) something like a powered antenna, a radio, microwave, about any electronic devise.


yeah, this is driving me nuts. I've moved the thing, readjusted the UHF/VHF dial, scanned the TV 50 times....not consistency. I'll get HD for a lil bit, then it get all choppy and stuff.....ugh....i dont want to go buy a powered antenna, but i might have to.....

Thanks, squeak49. I'm in the market to get an HDTV in the next 6 months, so we're watching primarily SD for now. Also, we don't watch a lot of sports.

Given the Everest has a Cable/Phone/Internet package that is free through August (with no commitments), I think we're going to try them out first.

Besides the free trial, the analog phone lines (translate: 911 service during power outage) and low number of internet users per node (translate: anticipated sustained high speeds) are what really won me over, at least on the surface.

Thanks again for your perspective.

as per a prior post (I saw no reply, so mentioning again), sometime around March Madness TWC in KC seemed to change their HDTV QAM channels to encrypt even the basic local ones- did anyone else notice this, and is there any way to get those channels without a STB?

I understand premium channels being unavailable, but the locals? gimme a break!!! even the public TV channels are encrypted...
Is this still the case? Does TWC offer any QAM channels for free? I don't have ANY cable right now, so i'm just wondering if i'll need to pull out the antenna or if I can just hook up the coax to my QAM tuner...

KUKC-Spanish that was on 61 on Comcast Olathe is know on 17 same as Independence/Blue Springs on 17 and not Univision anymore meaning KUKC 24/7 know.
Shop at Home TV is back on the air.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/analog060807.htm
http://kcradio.tripod.com/ check it out intersting News and Rumors,History and so on for you to check out.

Looks like NBC Action News (41) is getting some new HD equipment. I wonder when we will see it?

JVC ProHD Ships to Scripps Stations

The Scripps Television Station Group has tapped JVC to provide its 10 stations with its ProHD cameras and accessories as one of the first stages in converting the group's broadcasters to local HD.

Scripps plans to buy 150 GY-HD250 ProHD camcorders, 150 BR-HD50 ProHD recorder/players, and 300 DR-HD10060G HD hard-disc recorders, along with about 100 monitors.

Last fall, JVC had equipped WXYZ-TV, the Scripps ABC affiliate in Detroit, with a few of its JVC GY-HD250 units, according to JVC. WXYZ-TV upgraded its local news coverage to HD last October.

Besides its Detroit outlet, the Scripps stations to be upgraded include:

• KNXV-TV, Phoenix
• WFTS-TV, Tampa, Fla.
• WMAR-TV, Baltimore
• WCPO-TV, Cincinnati
• WEWS-TV, Cleveland
• WPTV-TV, West Palm Beach, Fla.
• WSHB-TV, Kansas City, Mo.
• KJRH-TV, Tulsa, Okla.
• KMCI-TV, Lawrence, Kan.

From: http://www.tvtechnology.com/hd_notebook/

Does anyone know when KMBC moves to their new building? I thought it was June sometime?

June 19 NFL NETWORK ON 180 will be gone from Comcast.
TWCKC is thinking about adding Regional Sports Networks to it's Lineup.
TWCKC is in talks with Vendors right know for Interactive TV.
Rhyen have had lots inquires about adding back Shop at Home TV.

Is this still the case? Does TWC offer any QAM channels for free? I don't have ANY cable right now, so i'm just wondering if i'll need to pull out the antenna or if I can just hook up the coax to my QAM tuner...
I am wondering this as well. What channels can I get with a QAM tuner and no cable box with TWC?

June 19 NFL NETWORK ON 180 will be gone from Comcast.
TWCKC is thinking about adding Regional Sports Networks to it's Lineup.
TWCKC is in talks with Vendors right know for Interactive TV.
Rhyen have had lots inquires about adding back Shop at Home TV.
What do you mean by "adding Regional Sports Networks"? Like all the Fox Sports Nets nationwide? That'd be nice. They already carry Fox College Sports East/Central/West.

Meaning like Sun Sports,MSG,NESH,FSN Florida,FSN New England and so are out their that S. Dish and AT&T U-Verse carrys.

Looks like KMBC Channel 9 will go live with HD news during the third week of July. I found the information for a local forum website of someone who claims they are a Channel 9 employee. Here is the quote:

http://www.gatewaycityradio.com/messageboard/tvboard.asp

Re(1): When does KMBC move to Swope Park?
Posted on June 12, 2007 at 08:33:53 PM by 9er

Business offices, sales, everyone except News......have already moved in the new building. News will move in mid July...broadcast from there third week in July.

I even asked if this meant it was going to be HD and they responded all digital, which technically doesn't mean HD, but they would be foolish not to. Again this site is usually a rumor mill, but I knew they were planning on moving to their new building starting June. So just take this with huge grain of salt. I am hoping this is accurate.

If technicalItalian is still around he could probably confirm this.

Great news about KMBC and the new digital news studio. As promised, I will be exclusively watching local news in HD when the first station goes live with it.

Looks like KMBC Channel 9 will go live with HD news during the third week of July. I found the information for a local forum website of someone who claims they are a Channel 9 employee. Here is the quote:

http://www.gatewaycityradio.com/messageboard/tvboard.asp

Re(1): When does KMBC move to Swope Park?
Posted on June 12, 2007 at 08:33:53 PM by 9er

Business offices, sales, everyone except News......have already moved in the new building. News will move in mid July...broadcast from there third week in July.

I even asked if this meant it was going to be HD and they responded all digital, which technically doesn't mean HD, but they would be foolish not to. Again this site is usually a rumor mill, but I knew they were planning on moving to their new building starting June. So just take this with huge grain of salt. I am hoping this is accurate.

If technicalItalian is still around he could probably confirm this.


Maybe 16X9 SD at first until the new field HD cameras arrive. :)

MYFOXKC will probley be the next one to do their Newscast in HD because they say they are leader in HD and the elader at 9pn Newscast on Weekdays and KCTV5 and KSHB haven't updated their sets for HD yet as I can see only KCTV5 has updated is Weather set.

FOX4 was the last Kansas City station to broadcast digital/HD at other than test power levels. Even the independents were broadcasting citywide digital before FOX4 was. Not much a basis for claiming that they are a "leader in HD". Historically WDAF4 can claim many many firsts in Kansas City, including first on the air, first to broadcast with stereo sound, and possibly the first to broadcast in color. However, they had nothing to do with the first in digital or HD in Kansas City, and really came near, if not completely, in last place in that category.

WDAF-TV is for sale by Newscorp so I don't expect they will be getting any upgrades until after the sale, and even that depends on who buys them and if they will put any money into the station.

I think KSHB-DT will be in HD after KMBC-DT due to the earlier article about Scripts Howard buying HD equipment for its broadcast stations and they existing HD equipment.

I agree with dlnester ... Newscorp wants to dump the station, not put more money into it. There will be no upgrades to FOX locally until well after the station is successfully sold. After that it's up to the new owners, and even then, if they are a low budget operation it won't happen for years. KSHB or KCTV will go HD local next.

I've seen a couple of people inquiring about using QAM decoders, so I wanted to pass along my personal experience with my Samsung T451 connected to TWC/KCMO. TWC just added a couple of digital channels, so the digital tier now occupies channels 78 to 117. Most of these channels have numerous sub-channels. If you do an auto scan, your receiver is going to store most of them. It cannot tell if the channel is encrypted or not. You will have to search each sub channel to see if there is programming that is in the clear. The cable companies are changing the channel lineup, sometimes quite often as they add new feeds, change equipment, etc. They can change the lineup while retaining the same virtual channel number for a particulat feed if they want, which makes the changes transparent to digital subscribers. To add to the fun, the two receivers I have put the same feed on two different sub channels within the same channel. Once you have found channels you will want to watch and logged them, it helps if your receiver will tune directly to the sub-channel. My T451 does not. I have to channel up or down to get where I am going. The new Sam H260 does tune directly to sub-channels.
You will not get any program information, only the channel number and if it is HD or SD.
The local channels are still in the clear. All the local channels are present except 16,38 and 50 (analogue #s). There are also a handful of SD non-local channels. The last non-local HD channel, Universal HD, disappeared recently. What is available with QAM has greatly decreased since I first connected two years ago.

It's June 19th and still on 180 NFL Network. Maybe later today it will be removed.

It's June 19th and still on 180 NFL Network. Maybe later today it will be removed.

Its gone today!(6/20/2007)

The channel bug on WDAF-DT during HD programming has become an ugly, mostly-opaque mess!

Look, I know the local stations watch this thread. Will you please tell your bosses that people are tired of colorful, high contrast, huge, flashing, motion logos that scream what channel we are watching. We all have PSIP or channel guide information. We don't need a permanent burned in reminder of what channel it is.
ID Bugs should be very small, very peripheral, very transparent (low contrast) watermarks with no color, no motion, and no advertisements or catch-phrases. My TV is not an advertisement billboard. Yes, this is one of my biggest pet-peaves with stations.

What city do you live that it's gone from 180? because we have begun the channel migration for NFL Network and should be
completed this week. We are continually updating our lineups and our
website to reflect our most current. Our Olathe lineup chart should be
completed soon.

please see my link -- price is FLEXIBLE!!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=866527

Any news on when Comcast will be adding HGTV-HD and FOODHD in Independence?

No but you might Email them or call ask or stop in to the Office their and if you do any of them don't forget Olathe and Blue Springs to and MYKSMOTV HD. They might not know because theirs certain factors for them to be added I think. FCC has set regulations on what Comcast and other Cable Company has to carry in terms of Local channels.
Theirs probley lots of channels that AT&T U-Verse,TWCKC and Everest has that Comcast doesn't that you probley wnat but the best thing is for you to Suggest them.

I have had Everest cable for the last year but I feel like they are slipping in the customer service dept. I am thinking of switching back to Direct TV but I am not sure this is a good move. I feel like I am paying a ton for my service, as I have 1HD DVR, 2 HD receivers, and 2 regular boxes = $115/Month just for cable.

If I do go with D* would an OTA antenna be any benefit to me here in South Overland Park or will D* HD package do just fine? I am not sure what else an OTA attena would get me that I can get from plain old HD service?

How about trying TWKC and or AT&T U-Verse?

Is TWKC better than Dish or D*? I am leaning towards Dish because they have less start up costs and have more HD channels. Does this sound right?

Direct TV has a big launch Friday's of HD channel's.

Does Everest offers unprotected HD content, so I could pick it up with my QAM tuner?

Thanks

Hurley Bird

P.S. And if so, what channels. I would assume mianly FOX4, KCTV5, KMBC 9, and NBC, but correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks again.

To answer your question about OTA, Etherscreen, an antenna should get you the local channels over and above the big four (WDAF/Fox, KCTV/CBS, KMBC/ABC, KSHB/NBC). These could include KTAJ (Religious), KCPT/PBS, KCWE/CW, KMCI/the Spot, KPXE/ion, and KSMO/MyTV. Also, KSHB has a weather subchannel.

mgsports, the only thing happening Friday at D* is the launch of the satellite to carry more HD. The channels won't show up until fall, when they've had time to get it positioned and operational. Until then, dish will have more HD channels, but most of the extras are VOOM channels with light original content.

Having an off-air antenna is a handy thing, no matter which way you go. It can be used to test whether an outage is from your service provider or the original station. Also, picture quality is usually better due to lack of compression from the provider (sat or cable).

KCBugeater, what would you go with if you had the choice; direct TV, Dish or Everest? Satellite seems cheaper and I miss their service and superior receivers compared to Everest. (BTW, Go Big Red!!)

Is KCPT-HD having problems today?

I was also watching KCTV HD and noticed they finally got the equipment to show the weather warnings over the HD feed. Finally they can show the HD program and do weather warnings. Wait, is that a good thing?

I don't have Everest available to me. I think I've heard good things about them. Our local cable company in Meriden, KS doesn't even have digital cable.

I really like DirecTV. It gives you non-local options as far as sports. I'm happy with my receivers, including the HR20 that everyone seems to badmouth. One consideration is that at the moment, for an HR20 to use both tuners, you have to have 2 coax cable runs to the box. That will change this fall when Single-Wire Multiswitches become available.

KCPT-HD has been having problems since at least tuesday night. I called this morning and they aacknowleged having problems. They said they were working on it but didn't give me a fix time. I haven't checked lately to see if they are operational yet.
In two years with no analog station available this would be a major major outage.

I'm getting KCPT-DT today, but every 30-40 seconds I get a 'hiccup' on the HD channel.

For the first time since I moved to KC and got an HDTV receiver box, I was able to pull in EVERY SINGLE KC DIGITAL STATION at the same time... that is 4,5,9,16,19,29,38,41,50,62 digital stations.

Direct TV has a big launch Friday of HD channels.
Can anyone verify that D* added new HD channels?

DirecTV had a launch of their new DirecTV 10 Satellite on Friday that will deliver a bunch of HD channels, but that Satellite will be in testing until at least September.

There are a couple of threads on the sat launch:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=871711

And on some of the new channels:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=851257

I'm such a nerd I was reading the stories on the sat launch until late last night - can't sign a new D* deal without that launch going smooth...

Now I guess it's time to give up my HD Tivo's and put in the HR20's.

I know there is a separate Comcast thread, but it hasn't been updated in ages. I have noticed channel 201 as beiong Fox Sports Midwest HD. The program guide said there was a game between St. Louis and Arizona on tuesday. All I got was a multi color test pattern.
Wednesday I called Comcat and finally talked the rep into believing that the problem was at their end. Whe said she would forward the info. As of tonight no action has been taken,

Regarding Fox Sports Midwest HD, I have Dish and I have both Fox Sports Midwest HD and Fox Sport Rocky Mountain HD and they have been on Dish since sometime in April and have yet to see 1 HD program come on. The reason is, since April the only HD programming that has been on either one of these Channels are Major League Baseball. Well with the stupid MLB blackout rules, the KC area will never see a St. Louis Cardinals or the Colorado Rockies play, so even on Comcast they shouldn't allow you to view the Cardinals playing on that channel because we are in a Royals only market. I know it is crap and the rumor I have heard is MLB is working on changing the Blackout rules, but for right now, I don't expect to see anything in HD on Fox Sports Midwest HD until College Football starts. I know the Royals are in their last year with RSTN and Fox Sports is supposed to take over starting next season. Hopefully once Fox Sports takes over they will actually show a Royals game in HD.

Are you talking about dslreports Comcast Forum or the one on Comcast.net?
FSN MIdwest in the Viewing area should be able to carry all Cardinals/Blues/Rams and so on St.Louis teams games and should be renamed FSN St. Louis and let Metro Sports carry all Kansas City teams games.

Their actually is a Fox Sports Net Kansas City, but it is just a mirror of FSN St. Louis branded at FSN Midwest. I think after this season when the Royals TV rights go to FSN for the next 10 years we'll get some HD games on the FSN-MW HD channel.

I don't want Metro Sports to carry anything, because I can't get it on AT&T U-Verse and what about all those D* and E* subs as well as smaller cable companies that also can't get Metro?

Their actually is a Fox Sports Net Kansas City, but it is just a mirror of FSN St. Louis branded at FSN Midwest. I think after this season when the Royals TV rights go to FSN for the next 10 years we'll get some HD games on the FSN-MW HD channel.

I don't want Metro Sports to carry anything, because I can't get it on AT&T U-Verse and what about all those D* and E* subs as well as smaller cable companies that also can't get Metro?

Without the Royals, Metro Sports is dead. All they have left is local high school sports, which no one watches. It wouldn't surprise me if TW drops the channel altogether.

But if it does they would want to carry it along with Metro Weather and other Local Channels like MYKSMOTV HD.
Then they can rename here to FSN Kansas City but then Metro Sports might not like that.
E stands for Everest so what does D stand for?
C is for Comcast but it has already Metro Sports.

D* is DirecTV and E* is Echostar (Dish Network)

It is the acronyms from www.dbstalk.com sorry.

If the St. Louis/ San Francisco game was not shown because of blackout restrictions then there should have been a message or something other than a test pattern. There have also been lots of times where a game waws on ESPN and on MLB so blackout doesn't make sense.
I e-mailed a question to Comcast and they didn't address the issue but just said that the channel is off-air most of the time because there is no event scheduled. They completely ignored my main question about the test pattern when there was a game scheduled.

On my AT&T U-Verse on FSN-MW-HD it had a slate up that said the current programming was unavailable in my area.

On my AT&T U-Verse on FSN-MW-HD it had a slate up that said the current programming was unavailable in my area.
I get the same pop up message when I click FNS-MW-HD with Dish (echostar)

They can just show MYKSMOTV HD when FSN Midwest HD is off the air.
St. Louis doesn't even have it's own local Sports channel.
FSN Live that use to Midwest Sports Report,Cardinals/Blues Tonight come out of St. Louis so they could rename it FSN St. Louis on every Cable Systems in MO other then the ones in the KC vewing area.
ESPM shows ESPNNEWS when theirs a Blackout and if the Cardinals or Royals are playing on Monday or Wednesday night on ESPN wouldn't you like to watch ESPN Coverage other then FSN'S coverage?
Was it a local person you talked to or somebody from the Main Office of Comcast?

I got a response from Comcast that the test pattern was becuase the game was blacked out here. I would prefer a message rather than a stupid test pattern.

Anybody here know what is going on with the clear QAM and time warner kansas city stuff?
i just got a qam card and can only tune 3 channels.
nbc &
nbc hd weather channel thing
kcpt

Anybody here know what is going on with the clear QAM and time warner kansas city stuff?
i just got a qam card and can only tune 3 channels.
nbc &
nbc hd weather channel thing
kcpt

are you a cable subscriber?

Kansas City Time Warner "clear" QAM channels

KCWE - T:577250,577250,2~P:6~V:66~A:67~PMT:87~N:>577250.2 Unknown2 (000(AC3))
WDAF FOX - T:637250,637250,7~P:12~V:68~A:72~PMT:167~N:>637250.7 Unknown7 (000(AC3))
DISNEY CHANNEL - T:649250,649250,3~P:1~V:72~A:73~PMT:103~N:>649250.3 Unknown3 (000(AC3))
KSHB NBC - T:649250,649250,5~P:12~V:76~A:77~PMT:135~N:>649250.5 Unknown5 (000(AC3))
KSHB NBC WEATHER - T:649250,649250,8~P:11~V:78~A:79~PMT:183~N:>649250.8 Unknown8 (000(AC3))
KCTV CBS - T:685250,685250,7~P:12~V:76~A:77~PMT:151~N:>685250.7 Unknown7 (000(AC3))
KSMO MYTV - T:697250,697250,1~P:12~V:64~A:65~PMT:71~N:>697250.1 Unknown1 (000(AC3))
DISNEY CHANNEL - T:715250,715250,8~P:6~V:90~A:91~PMT:199~N:>715250.8
KMBC ABC - T:721250,721250,5~P:12~V:74~A:75~PMT:135~N:>721250.5 Unknown5 (000(AC3))
KCPT - T:727250,727250,1~P:12~V:72~A:73~PMT:71~N:>727250.1 Unknown1 (000(AC3))
KCPT - T:727250,727250,6~P:9~V:79~A:80~PMT:151~N:>727250.6 Unknown6 (000(AC3))
KCPT - T:727250,727250,7~P:11~V:81~A:82~PMT:167~N:>727250.7 Unknown7 (000(AC3))
KCPT - T:727250,727250,8~P:10~V:83~A:84~PMT:183~N:>727250.8 Unknown8 (000(AC3))

EVEREST TO AIR SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL ON NFL-NETWORK HD

(Got this from my Everest Newsletter)

For serious football fans, July is not too soon to start talking about the new NFL season. That's why Everest is excited to announce it is partnering with the NFL Network this fall to deliver you the live regular season games carried exclusively by the NFL Network. Which means only one thing: more football for you to enjoy! Currently, the only cable provider delivering this coverage to your neighborhood, Everest wants to make sure you're covered all season long.

NOV. 22 - COLTS @ FALCONS
NOV. 29 - PACKERS @ COWBOYS
DEC. 6 - BEARS @ REDSKINS
DEC. 12 - BRONCOS @ TEXANS
DEC. 15 - BENGALS @ 49ERS
DEC. 22 - COWBOYS @ PANTHERS
DEC. 29 - PATS @ GIANTS

You can catch all of this great football on the NFL Network, Channel 439 on the Everest Digital Tier and NFL Network HD on channel 652 on the Everest HD Tier. You can also check out NFL Network On Demand on channel 140. Don't have Everest Digital Cable? Upgrade today by calling us at 913-825-3000.

I hope TWCKC,Comcast and AT&T U-Verse offers it in the future.
I like Metro Sports. Know if it was local sports 24/7 that would be good.
The Brigade,Jayhawks,Wildcats,T-Bones,Explorers should be shown on their and also NBA,NHL and WNBA if it comes here.
The Wizards are shown on their.
WE might not get them at first but probley will sometime.
PBS World goes on thair in August and Time Warmer,Comcast and so on have signed on for it.
Fox Business Channel goes on the air in October and Charter has signed up.
When Comcast here add's Foodnetwork and HGTV HD they will be on 197 and 198.

I'm actually dropping AT&T U-Verse on Monday to go back to Time Warner Cable. I was fed up with the lack of quality on the HD channels and can't get Dish Network at my apartment.

This is not really HDTV broadcast info, but I just wanted to let people know that Blockbuster is starting to carry Bluray movies in their stores. I have the Blockbuster online membership and I can use that to swap movies for free at the stores. Till now, I was able to swap only regular DVDs. Today I swapped my online rental return for a Bluray version of "Blood Diamond". I went to the Blockbuster at the corner of Noland Rd and 40 Hwy in Independence. They have a decent selection. I will be swapping online rentals for instore bluray movies from now on. Thanks Blockbuster. Can't beat it for $10/month. I just use OTA HD and Bluray rentals. Everything I need and no excess.

On KCTV-DT with the weather graphics overlay on HD I can see a small line on both sides where the pillar box would be. Not too bad at all, but there. This beats having to watch the program in SD as before though!

Anyone here know when we will see KMBC's new HD studio? I thought I heard 3 rd week of July, and well it is now the 3rd week of July.

I would keep checking every day this week. Their might be a story on it in the Kansas City Star this week.

Anyone here know when we will see KMBC's new HD studio? I thought I heard 3 rd week of July, and well it is now the 3rd week of July.KMBC says it has been pushed back by up to 2 months, so probably September is when they will start having HD broadcasts out of the new studio. The other local news stations better start moving on local HD news. I sure wouldn't want to be the only local newscast still in black and whi... I mean SD. :)

Will they move into it to do the News as their are doing it right know and then in September turn on the Switch to HD Broadcast?

KMBC says it has been pushed back by up to 2 months, so probably September is when they will start having HD broadcasts out of the new studio. The other local news stations better start moving on local HD news. I sure wouldn't want to be the only local newscast still in black and whi... I mean SD. :)

I kind of figured they would wait until September, since that is the start of the new Fall season and would make perfect sense to launch their HD news then.

The real question is "Where are KCTV, KSHB, and WDAF at in their local HD broadcast news conversion?" I expected at least KCTV to be at minimum acquiring equipment and running new cables. But we haven't heard a single word from any of the other stations even hinting at HD Local News which means they are either secretly doing it to suddenly roll it out, or they have absolutely no plans in the forseeable future to do it. For the record, I don't watch SD ... ever. So if KMBC is the only station doing local news in HD, I guess they get sole rights to my viewership. :)

For the record, I don't watch SD ... ever. So if KMBC is the only station doing local news in HD, I guess they get sole rights to my viewership. :)
I think that goes for most of us. When I watch the nightly news, I watch whoever's in HD. When I watch TV shows, i'll watch what's HD over anything else. When I watch the morning shows, i'll watch HD.

I wish the stations would figure out that whoever is the first to get HD will get a a hike in viewership solely from viewers like us.

I recently re-joined TWC and I can tune to every HD channel except KSMO-DT which just gives me a black screen. Anybody else having this problem? (Not that they have anything worth watching)

WeatherScan is owned by THE WEATHER CHANNEL and Everest has had the channel for a long time. Check out channel 451 at

http://www.everestkc.com/cable/channel_lineup.shtml

and

http://www.weather.com/aboutus/television/weatherscan/

You're getting locally produced channels and the Time Warner/Comcast corporate owned national cable television channels mixed up. If this was the case, AT&T and Everest wouldn't have CNN and TBS, TNT ect.

Metro Weather & Metro Sports are produced in-house at Time Warner Cable. They wouldn't sell those services which set them apart from Everest and AT&T when they are competing directly with those two companies for subscribers. Metro Sports is on Comcast and Sunflower Broadband because Time Warner cable doesn't compete with those two companies for subscribers. Everest and AT&T are a direct THREAT to Time Warner Cable and TWC will do everything in their power to use what they have to keep and expand their subscriber base.

You will find that Mgsports is incredibly unreliable in what he (or she) puts forth in this forum. This is based upon past observation, and pointed questions that I have asked of that user that have gone unanswered.

I recently re-joined TWC and I can tune to every HD channel except KSMO-DT which just gives me a black screen. Anybody else having this problem? (Not that they have anything worth watching)

Not that problem exactly, but I do have two channels (MAX-HD and MOJO) that won't tune the last couple weeks. Occasionally they'll come in all blocky and pixellated, but mostly they're just blank. It seems weird to me that everything would come in perfectly except two channels.

My MoJo comes in just fine, just KSMO-DT and when I tune to that channel my DVR gets all sluggish and doesn't want to change channels.

My MoJo comes in just fine, just KSMO-DT and when I tune to that channel my DVR gets all sluggish and doesn't want to change channels.

I get that when I change to either of those channels and try to change back to a channel that works too.

Maybe somebody who has MOJO on Comcast can report if it's working for them.
I don't have HD yet so I wouldn't know.
Probley in August Comcast do some changes.
Directtv has lots of Gems Channels for you to buy Jewerly so maybe some them will be added.
Theirs lots of Channels on Directtv and Dish Network that I would like to be see added.

I am ordered D* and I would like to install an OTA, should I do this myself? If so, what kind of antenna should I purchase? Is there one that I can put in the attic? If so how do I wire this (to the mulitswitch?) I live around 143rd and Switzer if that matters.

I am ordered D* and I would like to install an OTA, should I do this myself? If so, what kind of antenna should I purchase? Is there one that I can put in the attic? If so how do I wire this (to the mulitswitch?) I live around 143rd and Switzer if that matters.

IMO, generally, it's not that difficult to install an OTA. Specific installs or antennas could be. I did my own attic install, I have rewired all of low-voltage wiring and put in my own structured wiring system. At this point, I am particular about how it's done and would not have trusted just anyone.

As far as what antenna, there are threads over in reception hardware that discuss the ends and outs of different antennas. Go over to antennaweb.org and find out class you need and then shop about. I'm personally using a DB2 (antennasdirect.com) for my UHF and ChannelMaster Stealth for VHF. I combine them in the attic and bring a single RG6 down to rack and I distribute the OTA on separate cables through out the house (could have been added to the multiswitch and pulled out later). It all works very well.

We don't have 106 Bloomberg here or even SHOPNBC in 190's yet in Olathe,KS but know you know what channels they will be on if Comcast here adds them.

The NFL Hall of Fame Game is on tonight.... Thank You Time Warner Cable for not allowing me to watch it for the second year in a row. You wouldn't have me as a customer if I could get Satellite or Everest.

How about AT&T U-Verse or on the Internet?

I had AT&T U-Verse and the picture quality on the HD channels was horrible.... and I'll listen to the game on Sirius. Just seems silly that TWC sill doesn't have NFL Network.

Not to me. Especially if I'd have to pay a penny more.

Sr. Director of Marketing - Comcast Olathe/MO, that person would know much more information for my area than the email people. So if somebody wants to call that person to find future additons/Channel moves to our Lineups they may.
If somebody has the person Email Address I can get the anwser's anwsered.

Anyone with twc know if they are still adding espnu this month. In may I heard that it was delayed until august. Thanks

AVS Gang: KMBC & KCWE will begin to migrate our on-air operation over to our new facility within the next couple of days. During this time, we will not have sufficient equipment moved to provide HD broadcasts from either ABC or CW. We are scheduled to be back to normal operation by Monday. News will not move for at lest another week. Sorry for the inconvenience....TI

AVS Gang: KMBC & KCWE will begin to migrate our on-air operation over to our new facility within the next couple of days. During this time, we will not have sufficient equipment moved to provide HD broadcasts from either ABC or CW. We are scheduled to be back to normal operation by Monday. News will not move for at lest another week. Sorry for the inconvenience....TI

When will KMBC start broadcasting the news in HD?

Thanks!

AVS Gang: KMBC & KCWE will begin to migrate our on-air operation over to our new facility within the next couple of days. During this time, we will not have sufficient equipment moved to provide HD broadcasts from either ABC or CW. We are scheduled to be back to normal operation by Monday. News will not move for at lest another week. Sorry for the inconvenience....TI
TI,

Thanks for the info. I think I can speak for all the KC AVS'ers when I say that I truly appreciate you keeping us in the loop on what's going on there, and for providing your expertise. Good luck with the move -- it must be quite the logistical undertaking.

AVS Gang: KMBC & KCWE will begin to migrate our on-air operation over to our new facility within the next couple of days. During this time, we will not have sufficient equipment moved to provide HD broadcasts from either ABC or CW. We are scheduled to be back to normal operation by Monday. News will not move for at lest another week. Sorry for the inconvenience....TI

TI,

Great to see you back on the forums. I was waiting to hear from you about this move and hope it goes smoothly. I noticed how last night the shows weren't in HD. At first I thought maybe it is because the weather statements, but then I remembered you guys were the first to do HD weather statements right by directing the viewer to the analog channel for more info with a small bug. Now it makes sense why they weren't up in HD last night. Again, I hope the move goes smoothly and you enjoy all that new HD equipment over there in the new building.

No offense, TI, but I thought I'd offer an alternative for those who need their ABC HD:

KTKA-Topeka ABC 49 is now broadcasting in HD on 48.1. If you live in the western reaches of the KC metro, you may be able to pull in their signal. (The tropospheric conditions have been very good for enhancing reception lately.)

Just saw the first commercial for KMBC news in HD . . . Pretty stoked about it! Thanks KMBC!

Just saw the first commercial for KMBC news in HD . . . Pretty stoked about it! Thanks KMBC!


Great news for KMBC. :)

Now let's get the others to follow suit!!

Great Job KMBC!

Just saw the first commercial for KMBC news in HD . . . Pretty stoked about it! Thanks KMBC!
They have the promo on their website. Just click on the window above where it says TV Schedule.

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/index.html

It would be nice if I could make it play in a bigger window. Anyways, hopefully they will go live with their HD news in the next couple weeks. Maybe TI can fill us in. I also hope they have the necessary equipment to record HD highlights from sports. I have seen HD news in some markets where they don't do HD highlights, and others that do. I would guess since they built their HD studio from literally the ground up they could provide such HD highlights. Anyways, I am happy for KMBC and I think I might even watch their news once they go HD.

I would guess that the ABC service that feeds them most of the network news/sports is an SD feed, so unfortunately most of the highlights will be SD. It would be great if they could pull highlights from Kauffman directly in HD, since most games are produced in HD for the visiting teams... they'd be scooping RSTN in terms of quality!

Comcast-181 NFLHD probley because some people still have 2 NFL Networks one on 180 and second on its normal channel 275 but Food Network/HGTV and MYKSMO TV HD and so on channels yet?
It's like the some of the Local HD channlels no Picture but has sound in the background for people who don't have a HD yet.
Even TV Guide,TV Listings,Comcast TV Planner doesn't have it in it's listings yet for Olathe/MO.

I have generally been watching another local channel for news, but as soon as KMBC News goes HD I am there. I suspect many of us will do the same. In the 3 years I have had an HD set, I have watched lots of programing purely because it was in high def. If KMBC is the first local news in HD, they will get my support. Bring it on!

Music Choice Lineup changing on 9-18-07.
Great Promo of the new KMBC Set!
The next one will be probley the next one to get a new Set and so on for HD Newscast.

The Miami Dolphins vs. Kansas City Chiefs from Arrowhead on Thursday, August 16 will be broadcast nationally on ESPN-HD and locally in Kansas City on KMBC Channel 9. No word yet if we get a local HD feed or not but ESPN HD will most likely be blacked out.

The Miami Dolphins vs. Kansas City Chiefs from Arrowhead on Thursday, August 16 will be broadcast nationally on ESPN-HD and locally in Kansas City on KMBC Channel 9. No word yet if we get a local HD feed or not but ESPN HD will most likely be blacked out.
I thought the KMBC 9 feed is a simulcast of the ESPN feed, so ESPNHD wouldn't be blacked out? I know in years past when the Chiefs were on ESPN they would show the simulcast of the ESPN feed on KMBC.

KMBC will simulcast the ESPN feed... just not sure if they will pull in the HD feed as well. I've sent an e-mail to KMBC.

ESPN has the exclusive HD feed (if done like in the past). KMBC gets the SD feed only.

Brad

Comcast-181 NFLHD probley because some people still have 2 NFL Networks one on 180 and second on its normal channel 275 but Food Network/HGTV and MYKSMO TV HD and so on channels yet?
It's like the some of the Local HD channlels no Picture but has sound in the background for people who don't have a HD yet.
Even TV Guide,TV Listings,Comcast TV Planner doesn't have it in it's listings yet for Olathe/MO.

NFLHD was activated on Fri., 08/10. The TVPlanner and TVGuide channel now have it active.

ESPN has the exclusive HD feed (if done like in the past). KMBC gets the SD feed only.

Brad

In the past, when a Chiefs game was shown on ESPN, it was simulcast on both ESPN and KMBC and available on ESPN and ESPNHD in KC. I usually was channel swapping between the two to find out how long the delay was (KMBC's video was usually about three seconds ahead of ESPN's).

Is anyone else upset with KCTV and MetroSports not showing the Chiefs games in HD? I watched the rebroadcast on NFLHD (Comcast Ch. 181) on Sunday and it was shown in HD from the Cleveland NBC affiliate. What's wrong with MetroSports? If they are that cheap to not have their own HD equipment, couldn't they piggyback the HD feed from the other team's broadcast?

Comcast question

I have OTA-HD only right now. I have no interest in watching cable TV. I have AT&T DSL for broadband. Recently they hiked up my bill from about $18/month for 3Mbps to about $24.99. I got an offer in the mail from Comcast about Comcast internet service for $19.99/month for 12 months. In the past, I always ignored these offers since they force you to get their video package too. But this time, there was no fine print. So, I called and confirmed and signed up.

My question is this. I realized I have only one cable going into my house. I am currently using an outdoor antenna for my TV. I will have to disconnect that and connect my comcast cable for the internet.

Here are my questions:

1) Any way I can combine the antenna and cable internet into one cable going into the house and split up inside the house. Initial search on the internet says that they might interfere.

2) If the first option is not possible, does anyone know if Comcast in Lee's Summit (the local office is in Independence) also passes local QAM channels if someone signs up for broadband. Otherwise I have to bring another cable into the house.

The Miami Dolphins vs. Kansas City Chiefs from Arrowhead on Thursday, August 16 will be broadcast nationally on ESPN-HD and locally in Kansas City on KMBC Channel 9. No word yet if we get a local HD feed or not but ESPN HD will most likely be blacked out.


With a sellout crowd you guys usually muster with the Chiefs, I doubt they would black out the ESPN-HD feed.

Don H.

Comcast question

I have OTA-HD only right now. I have no interest in watching cable TV. I have AT&T DSL for broadband. Recently they hiked up my bill from about $18/month for 3Mbps to about $24.99. I got an offer in the mail from Comcast about Comcast internet service for $19.99/month for 12 months. In the past, I always ignored these offers since they force you to get their video package too. But this time, there was no fine print. So, I called and confirmed and signed up.

My question is this. I realized I have only one cable going into my house. I am currently using an outdoor antenna for my TV. I will have to disconnect that and connect my comcast cable for the internet.

Here are my questions:

1) Any way I can combine the antenna and cable internet into one cable going into the house and split up inside the house. Initial search on the internet says that they might interfere.

2) If the first option is not possible, does anyone know if Comcast in Lee's Summit (the local office is in Independence) also passes local QAM channels if someone signs up for broadband. Otherwise I have to bring another cable into the house.

I hope I can answer your question with this information. I have Comcast in Olathe. I only have one cable coming into the house, and I have internet access, standard analog cable, one standard digital cable box and two digital HD boxes off the same cable. I can also get QAM KMBC-HD, KCTV-HD, KCWE-HD, KSHB-HD, KCPT-1(HD), 2, 3, 4, KSHB Weather Plus, MoviePlex (one of the Encore movie channels that rotates on a daily basis) and WDAF-HD. There are also digital feeds (but not HD) of CNNHN, TWC, HGTV, TVGuide, Nat'l Geo, and all the Music Choice channels.

Is anyone else upset with KCTV and MetroSports not showing the Chiefs games in HD? I watched the rebroadcast on NFLHD (Comcast Ch. 181) on Sunday and it was shown in HD from the Cleveland NBC affiliate. What's wrong with MetroSports? If they are that cheap to not have their own HD equipment, couldn't they piggyback the HD feed from the other team's broadcast?

MetroSports doesn't have HD production trucks or cameras. MetroSports probably won't upgrade to HD until there's demand for the high school sports and the few Mizzou b-ball games in HD or the equipment is cheap.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/kmbc081307.htm
Two and Half Men 5 days a week on KCWE.
Know TVGUIDE Listings doesn't show 181 yet and sometimes shows 703 and 704 Mens and Health Channel when Comcast doesn't have those channels yet here.
Metrosports one day will have a HD channel.

I was talking to a guy who actually had a personal tour of the new KMBC studio with Wayne Godsey and Wayne said he had been pushing for it to go HD a couple weeks ago, but the technicians said there were still some bugs that needed to be ironed out.
Anyways, he said the studio looked awesome and the equipment was definitely state of art and that each studio camera cost $80,000. It is good to see that those studio camera's have come down in price. I took a tour of the NBC studio's in New York and page was saying each HD studio Camera was $250,000, but I am sure that figure was from a year or two ago.

Hi folks,

New in posting on this forum.

I'm in Olathe and I've got Comcastic Basic Analog, with H.S. Internet, and Dish Basic packages.

Now I want to now upgrade to HD to watch on my new 106" projector system, and for my 2nd 32" CRT TV upstairs. I currently run 4 DVD HardDrived Recording units, plus two TVs off current setup. Have had little trouble with either current system for last 6yrs.

Been studying both the Dish and Comcast offerings. Seems that Dish is cheaper for a total package of similar # channels and a slower DSL Internet. Looking for Recomendations as to which to spring for, based on quality, reliability, and offerings. Would like to get a PVR unit either way I go. No interest in major sports - so that is not in the mix.

Thanks for any suggestions, Harold

Does anyone have a list of QAM channel maps for the local HD channels for Comcast in Independence, MO? I don't see that listed on the Comcast site.

Posted by Aaron Barnhart on Monday, August 13, 2007.

On Friday I visited the new home of KMBC-TV and KCWE-TV, in an office park next to Swope Park. (Well, near Swope Park and next to Time Warner Cable.) Later this month, KMBC is scheduled to start broadcasting the news in high-definition from there — the first HD newscast in Kansas City.

The stations are in the process of moving out of downtown, where Hearst-Argyle had to spread out operations over six floors of the Lyric Opera offices and a second building across the street. Here they'll be on two floors, and much more efficiently arranged.

I took these pictures as visual notes. They aren't very good and the two I've chosen don't include the newsroom — we'll have much nicer pics in the paper in a few days — but these will give you a taste of what you'll be seeing in the background on Channel 9 news in the near future.

http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2007/08/kmbcs-new-digs-.html

Hope you enjoy the game in HD. Sorry but we had a real problem with the 5.1 audio from ESPN so we had to switch back to Stereo....at least the pix are pretty....go Chiefs......TI

Hope you enjoy the game in HD. Sorry but we had a real problem with the 5.1 audio from ESPN so we had to switch back to Stereo....at least the pix are pretty....go Chiefs......TI

Looks great. :)

I was so glad KMBC was able/allowed to pass the HD feed from ESPN.

According to KCStar, the 5 P.M. newscast on Thursday will be KMBC's first ever newscast in HD.

http://www.kansascity.com/238/story/237572.html

:cool::D:cool::D

I can't receive channel 41 digital. Anyone else have the same problem?

I can't get WDAF-DT and a few other channels to come up on my Time Warner Box... just a black screen. I can get KMBC-DT and KCWE-DT just fine as well as KSHB-DT. Also missing is KSMO-DT which is a black screen as well as KCTV-DT.

What's going on with Time Warner?

I called them, and they have an automated message saying that some users are having problems with both the SD and HD channels.

It's a TW problem, not a problem with the box (as I initially suspected.)

Thanks Jayhawk! I know not to call now!

Probley check out the News tommorow morning on KMBC to see if it's the new set.
Hope they have one for KCWE.

We have had same problem on Sunflower in Lawrence. I called and was told a fiber optic cable was cut affecting the KC HD broadcast channels. It looks like KMBC and KSHB HD are back up here, but not KCTV or WDAF. I called early afternoon and was told should be fixed by 3 p.m. Obviously that was a bit optomistic.

Probley check out the News tommorow morning on KMBC to see if it's the new set.
Hope they have one for KCWE.

It won't be HD tomorrow. Check hdtimmy's post:

"According to KCStar, the 5 P.M. newscast on Thursday will be KMBC's first ever newscast in HD.

http://www.kansascity.com/238/story/237572.html"

Not yet on KMBC Channel 12 but we all wish the standard Newscast on KMBC wouldn't have to wait to Broadcast from their on Thursday but before.
http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/columnists/aaron_barnhart/story/234977.html the Picture their shows Brian,Larry and Laura at the New Set.
Know KMBC Promo's haven't been updated yet either.

Here is my quick list of channels that Comcast has in the Independence/Lee's Summit area in clear QAM.

83.3 KSHB-DT
75.4 KSHB-DT2 Weather
86.3 KCTV-DT
82.3 KMBC-DT
114.3 WDAFDT
92.1 KCPTDT1 Analog Mirror
92.2 KCPTDT2 HD
76.3 KCPTDT3 Create
76.4 KCPTDT4 PBSKids
91.8 CNN Spanish
94.6 Discovery Health
94.1 CSPAN
94.9 HSN
94.10 QVC
100.12 WGN

I have not found KSMO, KCWE or KMCI on the QAM. May be I missed it. Does anyone know? If you found anything wrong with this list, let me know.

I'm taking a wild guess and say TWC is having trouble with the fiber repairs? I'm getting ZERO HD channels in Lenexa on TWC.

EDIT:

I get the KCPT digital channels, and Universal HD. Everything else is out including Starz HD

This may sound like a dumb question but do we know if KMBC will be able to air taped shows in HD like 41 does once the move is done? (41 has Wheel & Jeopardy in HD)

This may sound like a dumb question but do we know if KMBC will be able to air taped shows in HD like 41 does once the move is done? (41 has Wheel & Jeopardy in HD)

Wheel & Jeopordy come in to a server at the TV station and are stored there, untill they are shown. They aren't taped. I'm in New Orleans. And we are waiting on the affiliate here to upgrade their server so we can see the 2 shows in HD. It is supposed to happen sometime this summer. If 41 there is showing Wheel and Jeopardy in HD, then they must have already gotten the upgrade.

Don H.

The View is an HD program, but KMBC hasn't been showing it as such -- not that I watch anyway. Maybe starting soon they'll be able to? TechnicalItalian, what do you know as far as other HD programming that KMBC wasn't able to do before?

Hello,
I live near the intersection of 74th and 75th streets in Raytown. I have been using an LG ATSC receiver and RCA HDTV w/tuner. I have tried either a single/multiple CM4248, RS VU-75, RS 15-1892, 15-1634 and a coat hanger with cable ranging form 6 feet to 75 feet. I have installed these near the receivers, in the attic and on a 20 foot outdoor mast. The signals appear to be EXTREMELY directional at my location. If I tune to one station, I will lose 4 others. After looking at the antennaweb site, it would appear the signals are coming from 4 different directions. Here's my question: is there a combination of antenna or preferred location(outside/inside) which I can receive all of city OTA signals without having to move the antenna to the specific station location?

Wheel & Jeopordy come in to a server at the TV station and are stored there, untill they are shown. They aren't taped. I'm in New Orleans. And we are waiting on the affiliate here to upgrade their server so we can see the 2 shows in HD. It is supposed to happen sometime this summer. If 41 there is showing Wheel and Jeopardy in HD, then they must have already gotten the upgrade.

Don H.

I am sure the original poster meant saving to a server. It is like saying dialing a phone. We don't have dials anymore but we still use the word. KSHB has had this feature for a year now. I have been DVRing and watching Jeopardy in HD for about a year now (I think). Looks great.

I wish the other channels get that capability too. I sometimes watch the CSI reruns late at night and they are SD, and that is too bad. HD looks so much better.

KCWE is supposed to get this feature soon - but too late for the Star Trek shows. They current show them at 11pm in SD even though Paramount converted them to HD from the original film and also added new special effects. However, KCWE's license for Star Trek expires this year. Yikes.

KMBC's got something else up their sleeves. My TV's showing color bars, tone, and an upper-left "KMBC-TV" label on 9.2. Hmmm....

KMBC's got something else up their sleeves. My TV's showing color bars, tone, and an upper-left "KMBC-TV" label on 9.2. Hmmm....

I would guess they are going to be adding Accuweather, which is a channel other ABC stations have as a sub channel throughout the country. Just a guess.

Hello,
I live near the intersection of 74th and 75th streets in Raytown. I have been using an LG ATSC receiver and RCA HDTV w/tuner. I have tried either a single/multiple CM4248, RS VU-75, RS 15-1892, 15-1634 and a coat hanger with cable ranging form 6 feet to 75 feet. I have installed these near the receivers, in the attic and on a 20 foot outdoor mast. The signals appear to be EXTREMELY directional at my location. If I tune to one station, I will lose 4 others. After looking at the antennaweb site, it would appear the signals are coming from 4 different directions. Here's my question: is there a combination of antenna or preferred location(outside/inside) which I can receive all of city OTA signals without having to move the antenna to the specific station location?First, outdoor antenna placement is ALWAYS better. The higher, the better.

Second, what is the model number of the LG tuner you are using? (ie, how old is it?) Most of the newer tuners are light years ahead of older models when it comes to multipath rejection. Last I had heard, Samsung had the first (and only) set top tuner that uses 5th generation hardware ... which is very good at multipath issues. I believe the newer LG models have 4th gen hardware, which is fair. The old LG models (like the 3100 I own) have 3rd gen hardware, which is abysmal by most measurements.

If you live in a geographic hole or sit between tall buildings or a slew of huge trees you've got other problems. But in Raytown, with a modest outdoor combination UHF/VHF antenna, a decent tuner, and quality RG-6 coax running to your living room, you really shouldn't have any trouble. Aim your antenna to split the difference in the 90 degree swath between channels 41 and 62 and you shouldn't have to rotate at all, I wouldn't think.

KMBC's added an HD section to their Web site, including 5 locally-produced videos about HDTV, how to buy a set, and what kind of cool stuff they've done with their new station.

If they run all of those videos tonight, there won't be much time left for actual news.

My co-worker and I were talking about KMBC HD going on the air today and how many videos they've made about it. "It's a good thing the president didn't come today, then," was her reply. What's interesting about that was that Aaron Barnhart (KC Star's TV critic) told me via e-mail a couple weeks back that KMBC planned to start HD news on Aug. 22 -- the same day the president came. Once they found out he was coming they probably bumped their HD premiere back a day.

Thanks DurhamHusker,
I am using a LG LST-4200A. I think it is probably a 4th generation chip set. I also have a new RCA HDTV w/ tuner. Both of these receivers end up with about the same outcome as far as reception goes. Last night I lowered my RS 15-1634 (omni-directional antenna) closer to the roof line and actually got more channels and more stable reception. However, I still get good reception on some station and totally loose others. Aiming the antenna to split the difference still doesn't solve the proble. I do have mature trees in the hood, but none within 75 feet of the antenna. Needless to say this has been much like that gopher game... however I just keep baging my head to figure this out!!

It could also be ABC News Now which is a 24 hour news channel from ABC.

This is exciting to see the first local HD news broadcast! They are having some glitches, but will likely work it out soon. There is a definite red color bias in the studio shots of the anchor desk, but the camera on Brian Busby looks right on. Makes you cringe when they jump to a low-def clip while covering a story. I am happy to see that they had some film from the field that was definitely HD... Now they need to get the traffic copter camera upgraded to HD!

Does anyone here understand Everest's pricing for HD?

The reason I ask is when I call to get pricing to basically add the NFL network in HD I was a bit shocked at the cost.

I was told to add the Digitial Tier it was 4.95, to add an HD enabled CableCard to my Sony DHG-250, would be 12.95, and then to add the HD tier would be another $8. Currently I just use the QAM feature of the DHG to get my locals, but if the picture looks too compressed I switch to OTA. I was previously told that CableCards were 4.95. Do they really get away with charging $12.95 simply because you are going to be using hd? it's not like they have to use a different card or it costs them more like the boxes do.

I'm kind of having a hard time justifying paying $25.90 (or $17.90 depending on who you talk to) to add HD versions of 5 channels I already have and 7 new ones. I'm also curious how this pricing compares to TW, as I have considered switching.

Does anyone here understand Everest's pricing for HD?

The reason I ask is when I call to get pricing to basically add the NFL network in HD I was a bit shocked at the cost.

I was told to add the Digitial Tier it was 4.95, to add an HD enabled CableCard to my Sony DHG-250, would be 12.95, and then to add the HD tier would be another $8. Currently I just use the QAM feature of the DHG to get my locals, but if the picture looks too compressed I switch to OTA. I was previously told that CableCards were 4.95. Do they really get away with charging $12.95 simply because you are going to be using hd? it's not like they have to use a different card or it costs them more like the boxes do.

I'm kind of having a hard time justifying paying $25.90 (or $17.90 depending on who you talk to) to add HD versions of 5 channels I already have and 7 new ones. I'm also curious how this pricing compares to TW, as I have considered switching.

I'm with TWC. My cable card charge is $1.95
$12.95 IMO is a ripoff.

Skid

My bad, didn't read about adding w/dvr. $12.95 though? jeesh

It could be a local 24 Hour News Channel because KC doesn't have one yet only Metro Sports and Metro Weather. Because Brighthouse Networks that's owned by Time Warner in Orlando has CFN13 that the Orlando Sentinel produce it and in Tampa Bay Bay News9.The KC one could be produced by the Kansas City Star. It would have to be on all 4 Cable Systems here and S. Dish.
What Cable System do you have that's doing that? I hope is Comcast and if it is I don't see a new channel to be annouced on that but 255-BTN Placeholder channel has been added today and also it's not in Comcast TV Planner yet.

Hi guys, first post here and fairly new to HD and all the new tech pannels that are out. I'm looking to get a Samsung 40" lcd tv with an integrated HD tuner, but I'm at Rockhurst University (just a mile away from CC Plaza if you're not familiar) and living in the dorms. Does anyone know how far away most of these channels are broadcasting from? I'm limited to an indoor antenna. Any suggestions?

Thank you KMBC for bringing HD local news to Kansas City. :)

The audio was lower on some of the field camera playback. It is probably just my eyes but the picture seemed softer on Larry and Lara. Bryan's weather was sharp and looked great.

Once again KMBC is making bold moves in HDTV broadcasting. A wonderful day in Kansas City television broadcasting history.

It appears that Chopper 9 is in HD. I'm replaying the 5p news now and it didn't show any kind of bars on the HD feed.

It also looks like 9 is actually *producing* the news for HD. (That means the graphics and such account for HD and try downconverting this to SD, it will look far more cropped.)

It is probably just my eyes but the picture seemed softer on Larry and Lara.
jeffdbs, I don't think it's your eyes, the camera on Larry and Lara is softer. I think they're using the "age" filter on that one.

Hi guys, first post here and fairly new to HD and all the new tech pannels that are out. I'm looking to get a Samsung 40" lcd tv with an integrated HD tuner, but I'm at Rockhurst University (just a mile away from CC Plaza if you're not familiar) and living in the dorms. Does anyone know how far away most of these channels are broadcasting from? I'm limited to an indoor antenna. Any suggestions?
This web site will tell you most of what you want to know I believe:

http://www.antennaweb.org/

The cameras on the anchors were so "soft" that they looked painted on. Come on! No one's going to stop watching because of a wrinkle or two... who are they going to switch to? (Unless FOX 4 hires the "Anchormodel")

I agree that the weather looked superb. Let's hope sports tonight has the Royals in HD (Cleveland's SportsTime Ohio does all their games in HD).

Snooper, I don't think the chopper cam is HD. I think they are cropping all SD shots to fill the widescreen. Someday we'll look back and find it hard to imagine living in an SD world.

Thank you so much, KMBC. I will be watching faithfully.

I watched portions of the 5, 6, & 10 on KMBC and I've got to say that they got off to a decent start. Most of the in-studio cameras, the lower third and over-shoulder graphics and chroma key in front of the weather wall looked especially great. Here's some issues that I noticed (which KMBC is likely to address soon):


The two-shot camera on the anchor desk seemed soft, almost to the point of seeming "dream sequence-like".
Aspect ratios were ALL OVER THE PLACE. Some 4:3 feeds and tapes were stretched wide, some 16:9 footage was shrunk to 4:3.
Chopper 9 doesn't appear to be HD...or even widescreen yet! Their shot of Arrowhead Stadium was grainy, stretched wide, and overall just a mess.
The packages with fill-in-the-talent giving a tour of the studio was very noticeably NOT HD. It wasn't even upscaled very well.
At first the weather maps looked stretched wide but it appears they fixed it by 10 p.m. Even so, I don't think they're putting out HD graphics because a lot of the numbers, letters, and even the KMBC logo are pixely around the edges.
Teleprompter issues, yikes! It seems as though they kept sporadically flaking out.
Some package audio was blown out of the stratosphere. One whole story was played with a ridiculous amount of distortion.
Some camera framing issues, including not enough headroom at a few different instances. At one point a camera auto tilted down to the desk while an anchor was talking.
Apparently KMBC switches the ABC network feed to studio control shortly before the news starts. This meant that the end of the ABC Nightly News and Boston Legal credits were stretched out and cut off some graphics. Hmm.


Overall, a decent start. I'd give their first day a B-. Like I said earlier, I'm sure they're fixing things as we speak -- or in this case, type.

Just some information for anyone that has twc i talked to a csr and they are adding espnu on aug 30 i don't know if this has been talked about already but thought I would post it. I believe they said it was going on channel 213 or 214.

KC doesn't have Sports Tonight. If they did it would have to be on FSN Midwest that needs to be change to in KC to FSN KC. Only FSN Live on FSN Midwest and Metro Sports Report on Metro Sports.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcastbigten082407.htm
http://multichannel.com/article/CA6470676.html about ESPNU.
I would like to see more Local channels here like a ACCUWEATHER,24 Hour News,RTN and so on. The other 3 Cable Systems/S. Dish here add MYKSMOTV HD.

Some picture breakup and signal lost for me Over-the-Air DT-7 KMBC9 HD local news. The in-studio HD camera pictures where razor sharp tonight with no softness. On the signal lost and picture breakup I used two different OTA ATSC receivers to confirm the problem. So either I have a cable/antenna problem or KMBC may still be working some bugs out.

Hopefully the other local television broadcasters will switch to HD local news soon. But for now KMBC9 DT-07 has the best local news picture in Kansas City. :)

KMBC DT looks great on my Time Warner cable feed (as long as stupid copper thieves refrain from cutting up anymore fiber lines) and I imagine I'm getting a pure signal, and not a feed from the KMBC transmitter.

Now if we can only get channel 41 to go HD so I can keep watching Gary's weather forecasts...41's radar is much better, but when compared to HD radar i've found myself watching channel 9 the last two days.

I am so impressed with KMBC spending the money to make the jump to local HD news, that I have rewarded them with my exclusive viewership. Great job, keep up the great work, and thank you!

Now if they'd just pass ABC's HD through I'd be content.

On DirecTV, we're getting ZERO HD from KMBC outside of news, and that's downright annoying.

Now if they'd just pass ABC's HD through I'd be content.

On DirecTV, we're getting ZERO HD from KMBC outside of news, and that's downright annoying.

Is the Little League World series not in HD? The reason I ask is because I am in Raleigh right now and the local ABC is showing it in HD. I am wondering if KMBC still has some tweaking to do with their ABC National feed?

Nope its not on KMBC. I'm watching the WABC feed now which IS in HD.

I believe Dish Network and DirecTV get their Kansas City HD feeds via an OTA receiver. KMBC, due to their studio move, might not be able to pass KMBC/KCWE programming OTA in HD. I have Time Warner Cable which gets its local HD signals via a fiber link... maybe explain it?

PS> During the 5:00 PM news on KMBC on Saturday they had a lot of pixelation breakup as I watched them on TWC.

It's looks good on channel 12 on Comcast Olathe.
Heads up Mid 2008 KSHB News in HD because already got HD Cameras. Don't know KC Live when it's going to be in HD.
You might check with KMBC to see if they are adding another channel to their channels they own.

(This also depends on if KC live sticks around...that 4th hour of Today reaks chaos)

It's looks good on channel 12 on Comcast Olathe.
Heads up Mid 2008 KSHB News in HD because already got HD Cameras. Don't know KC Live when it's going to be in HD.
You might check with KMBC to see if they are adding another channel to their channels they own.

I agree that 41 will go HD with local programming next. They were the first local channel to have their weather warning graphics in HD without reducing the aspect ratio to 4:3 (not withstanding 9 putting the text "There is a weather warning for the area. Go to 9 SD for details.")

Family Guy reruns on KMCI 12 times a week.
KC Live probley at 11am and forth hour of the Today show at 10am or other way forth hour at 11 am and KC Live still at 10am or maybe KC Live on KMCI at 7am to 9am and be called KC Live Today with a Weekend Version.
I wish KSHB/KMCI/KCTV5/MYKSMOTV/KMBC/KCWE Fall Schedules will out Online. MYFOXKS doesn't need to be because theirs no changes to it this year.
KSHB Needs a News Desk like KMBC and looks outside before their News goes in HD.
The next local channel to come to KC will probley be RTN on probley KMCI,then ACCUWEATHER and then 24/7 News Channel again.

the other night on my sharp 37GP1U i was picking up several channels in the 100-101 range by manually entering them as 101.1, 101.5 etc on time warner basic cable. (i think they were NBC, NBC weather, disney channel) today i went back to hunt for them without any luck.

Time Warner had some channels all out of whack the other night after that fiber line was cut at their HQ.

I had FOX Soccer Channel on KMBC-DT and some other channels in the wrong spots.

255-Big Ten Network Placeholder channel gone.
ESPN Classic moving
Attention Time Warner customers — my ever sharp-eyed editor Ward Triplett was looking at the TV listings for this weekend when he noticed that Time Warner KC is shifting ESPN Classic from analog channel 35 to digital channel 205, next to ESPNEWS. A rep at the local office confirmed the move, though he didn't know why Classic is getting the heave-ho, nor what will be taking its place at 35. But he did know that Fox Business Channel will arrive on digital at channel 232 in October.

Hi all,

I recently purchased a Philips 42" 1080p LCD TV (42PFL7432D/37), and am using Everest as my cable provider. I currently have one set top box in use in another room on another tv, and am plugging my new LCD directly into a coax line in the wall. It found all the regular analog stations, but none of the digital/hd stations. Is this normal? Is there any way I can get these digital stations without having another set top box, or an HD box?

Thanks!

Does your TV have a QAM tuner. Not all HDTVs have this. Also, are there more than one coax inputs in the back of the TV. Does one say Digital and one say analog. Does one say air and one say cable. Different TVs implement this differently. If you have QAM tuner, then you should be able to scan digital cable channels. First you have to do an Auto scan to find these. You cannot directly tune to it. I am not with everest. I am with Comcast in Lees Summit and I can find QAM on mine.