Hey all - it's been a while since my last post. Hope all are doing well.

Is anyone else experiencing audio break up and severe pixelation issues on KMBC (ABC) using an OTA setup? Watching Nov 6th DVR'd episode of Boston Legal and, wow, is it really bad. Ran though all my setup to be sure cables and antenna were still locked in and all was fine. Thought maybe it was a compression issue on the DVR, but other shows (also recorder via OTA) are fine. Also noticed some (but not nearly as bad problems on KMBC shows recorded to a different DVR. Funny thing - a ew weeks back we had the very same problem with Boston Legal - but 3/4 of the way through the show it cleared up and I had no problems again until this week.

So - am alone out there? Anyone have any ideas?

J.

I've been in contact with the Director of Engineering at KMBC, Jerry Agresti, the last month regarding this issue. The first time I sent him a note I received this reply on October 10th:

"Thanks for the note. We are in communication with the manufacturer of our
HD encoder to get a replacement."

Sent another note asking if the equipment had been replaced. His reply on October 24th:

"I hate to say this but it has been replaced and the entire system
worked on by the factory technician. I can't speak to yesterday as when I
was able to pay close attention we were clean and we were clean this AM
until about 7:15 when the system acted up again. I can only tell you we're
doing the best we can and are in constant communication with the
manufacturer.

Nobody is more frustrated than we are....especially after paying over a 1/4
of a million for the equipment.....ARRRRGH!

Thanks for you patience and again, I apologize."

And finally after writing about the problems continuing received the latest reply on November 7th:

"We thought we had the problem licked as we hadn't had a problem for
quite sometime but obviously we didn't. I've been on the phone with the
manufacturer all day. I wish we had a solid solution but as yet we don't.

I apologize again."

Has anyone seen the issue with KMBC 9-1 show up as "skips" in the data stream? I'm trying to figure out if this is a KMBC issue or a DVR issue. We noticed it on "Desparate Housewives" last night (11/11). The skips occured about once a minute and lasted about 1/2 second each. We don't see this on shows recorded on any other channel (or haven't yet, at least).

Brad

Brad et al,

Maybe we should take up a collection to get KMBC a new encoder for Christmas!

J.

Has anyone seen the issue with KMBC 9-1 show up as "skips" in the data stream? I'm trying to figure out if this is a KMBC issue or a DVR issue. We noticed it on "Desparate Housewives" last night (11/11). The skips occured about once a minute and lasted about 1/2 second each. We don't see this on shows recorded on any other channel (or haven't yet, at least).

Brad

I get those too, and I see them on shows I'm watching live, like college football. I thought they might be caused by a splitter I added, but maybe not.

They're most annoying to me when the audio skips. It's like Ron Franklin and Jack Arute suddenly developed a stuttering problem. :p

I just got the monthly Everest Cable e-mail (even though I haven't been a customer for 18 months)

New Channels:
Fox Business Channel - 453
PBS Kids Sprout - 417
A&E HD - 664
History HD - 665

NFL Network will have all Thursday/Saturday Night football games this year.

I wish Comcast here would send a monthy Email out.
Nothing in my bill about anythiung being added between know and the next bill.
Comcast here is the only one with out Fox Business Channel at the moment.
EverestKC Lineup on it's Website isn't up to date.

I already have Dish network if I am going to invest in the HD programming is it worth getting. I love their DVR set up with two TV's per box but would be willing to switch to Direct if there is that much of a difference., Suggestions???

I already have Dish network if I am going to invest in the HD programming is it worth getting. I love their DVR set up with two TV's per box but would be willing to switch to Direct if there is that much of a difference., Suggestions???

Short-term (a year?) there is quite a bit of difference in national HD channels, IF the different channels they offer are important to you. Personally, there is only one that D* has and E* doesn't that matters to me, so it's not worth changing. E*'s DVR (I have the 622) is better - some say by far. It boils down to what you, personally, want - what's best for YOU!

Brad

http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/364634.html-The arrival of AT&T as a new competitor has not changed the company’s expectations meaning Everest for continued subscriber growth and expansion in 2008 to Leawood, Olathe and Prairie Village, Spencer said.

For those with Sunflower Broadband you're getting these channels December 5
---------------------

Sunflower Broadband is proud to announce the following channel lineup additions beginning Wednesday, December 5
The following new channels will be available to Silver TV customers:
131-Sleuth*
132-Chiller*
134-Crime & Investigation
135-Military History
139-Fox Business Network*
147-Big Ten Network*
Also coming, NEW HIGH DEFINITION CHANNELS at no extra charge for Bronze (Expanded Basic) Silver and Gold levels of TV service with a High Definition Box:
210-USA HD*
211-Bravo HD*
212-Sci-Fi HD*
213-Discovery HD
214-Animal Planet HD
215-TLC HD
216-LMN HD*
217-A&E (moving from 237)
218-History HD
229-National Geographic HD*
42-ABC News Now*
These new HD networks join the following HD channels already included with your High definition Cable box:
200-KMBC - HD - ABC
201-KCTV - HD - CBS
202-KSHB - HD - NBC
203-KTWU - HD - PBS
204-WDAF - HD - FOX
206-KCWE - HD - CW
207-KMCI - HD - IND

Other changes:
Fit TV will move from channel 132 to channel 129 and Lifetime Real Women will move from channel 135 to channel 133.

For questions, to sign up or to upgrade your service, contact Sunflower Broadband at 785-841-2100.

*Launch date depends on completion of contract for carriage of channel. Actual launch date may be later.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/story?id=3139544-Comcast only Broadband at the Moment.
You getting lots of channels that Comcast doesn't have yet or agreement yet with.
I'm hoping Comcast adds and moves some channels this week for a Thanksgiving present.
Saturday's Red Light wasn't a good Message.

Just for people who have a Lake Home and have Charter at it
From Charter's Website Osage Beach Lineup
205 Fox Business Channel
407 ESPNU
770 HDNet Hi-Def View
771 HDNet Movies Hi-Def View
773 ESPN HD Hi-Def View
774 ESPN2 HD Hi-Def View
775 HD Theater Hi-Def View
777 HBO HDTV-East Hi-Def Premium
778 Showtime HDTV-East Hi-Def Premium
779 Cinemax HDTV-East Hi-Def Premium
780 KOLR-DT - CBS Hi-Def Lifeline
783 KYTV-DT - NBC Hi-Def Lifeline
786 KMOS-DT - PBS Hi-Def Lifeline
787 KSFX-DT - FOX Hi-Def Lifeline
790 Starz HDTV-East Hi-Def Premium
791 HDPPV Hi-Def PPV
792 Fox Sports Net Midwest - HD Hi-Def Lifeline
795 A&E HD Hi-Def View
796 History Channel HD Hi-Def View
797 TNT - HD Hi-Def View
799 MHD Hi-Def View

Has anyone seen the issue with KMBC 9-1 show up as "skips" in the data stream? I'm trying to figure out if this is a KMBC issue or a DVR issue. We noticed it on "Desparate Housewives" last night (11/11). The skips occured about once a minute and lasted about 1/2 second each. We don't see this on shows recorded on any other channel (or haven't yet, at least).

Brad

I've been putting up with these Audio/Video skips with Everest ever since KMBC went online with their new studio and HD Local news. When I brought the problem up to Everest Tech Support, I got conflicting answers, they even told me to bring in my HD Box to get replaced! I tried to explain to them that the problem was on both my HD boxes, and they backed off. I'm glad to here that KMBC at least is acknowledging the issue, just hope get it fixed soon.

A&E HD and The History Channel HD have shown up on Everest, 664 & 665 respectively ( I think ).

If anyone sees Fox Sports Net HD, please let us know, that's the one I'm looking forward to. :p

Somehow, I don't expect to see FSN-HD on Everest until presure builds from folks wanting to see the Royals when they start to broadcast their games next season.

Their is a LOT of college football and basketball on FSN-HD and with the Royals coming I can only imagine the pressure is pretty high. It isn't even a full-time network either.

The funny thing is, I think Everest will have it well before Time Warner does.

Are there any Direct TV HD customers here in the area experiencing consistent (and annoying) audio breakups on their HD channels? I've been a sub since last December and the problem really didn't start for me until last summer, and it seems to have gotten worse. I guess it began when Direct TV launched their new satellite and started adding additional HD channels. Some days it will be fine, some days you can't/don't want to sit through a show when you repeatedly can't hear the end of a sentence.

I've been to Direct TV techs a number of times but they're oblivious to the problem. My signal strength checks out, I assume my filters are good and I use HDMI cabling. I'm thinking that it's maybe not Direct TV's fault but the stations that are broadcasting the troublesome signals.

Can someone help me understand this problem? We've got a great weekend of football coming up that I'd like to enjoy in HD but ESPNHD started acting up again last night!

Somehow, I don't expect to see FSN-HD on Everest until presure builds from folks wanting to see the Royals when they start to broadcast their games next season.

Actually, the reason I mentioned it was because Everest listed it as "Coming in 2007" in a mailer they sent out early this year. I had hoped that meant in time for college football season, but alas, it was not to be. :D

Are there any Direct TV HD customers here in the area experiencing consistent (and annoying) audio breakups on their HD channels? I've been a sub since last December and the problem really didn't start for me until last summer, and it seems to have gotten worse. I guess it began when Direct TV launched their new satellite and started adding additional HD channels. Some days it will be fine, some days you can't/don't want to sit through a show when you repeatedly can't hear the end of a sentence.

I've been to Direct TV techs a number of times but they're oblivious to the problem. My signal strength checks out, I assume my filters are good and I use HDMI cabling. I'm thinking that it's maybe not Direct TV's fault but the stations that are broadcasting the troublesome signals.

Can someone help me understand this problem? We've got a great weekend of football coming up that I'd like to enjoy in HD but ESPNHD started acting up again last night!

I've had no problems whatsoever since I moved to D* about 6 weeks ago. Everything is looking and sounding great!

Are there any Direct TV HD customers here in the area experiencing consistent (and annoying) audio breakups on their HD channels?

Welcome, JFHelton. I get some audio breakups on ESPNHD thru DirecTV, but I don't think they're as often or as bad as you're describing.

What is your receiver?
How are you listening (RCA cables thru TV, TOSlink thru TV or amp, coax thru TV or amp)? (Have you tried listening thru a different path: one or more of the above?)
What dish do you have (3 LNB, AT-9, Slimline)?
If you have OTA hooked up, do you also get breakups over that signal? Any other SAT channels experiencing breakups?

Also, you may want to take your question to dbstalk.com as this is more of a local channel forum.

Welcome, JFHelton. I get some audio breakups on ESPNHD thru DirecTV, but I don't think they're as often or as bad as you're describing.

What is your receiver?
How are you listening (RCA cables thru TV, TOSlink thru TV or amp, coax thru TV or amp)? (Have you tried listening thru a different path: one or more of the above?)
What dish do you have (3 LNB, AT-9, Slimline)?
If you have OTA hooked up, do you also get breakups over that signal? Any other SAT channels experiencing breakups?

Also, you may want to take your question to dbstalk.com as this is more of a local channel forum.

KSBugeater, thanks for your response.

I've got an Onkyo HT-R640 receiver which is interconnected to an LCD tv and D* HR20-700 satellite box via HDMI. My dish is a 5 LNB unit. I don't have OTA, don't feel I need it. I receive the locals just fine; no break up or pixelation problems.

I would love to know that it's something I can do to improve this condition. I set up my system to deliver the best signals between components I could.
For the better part of my first year with D* I've been very pleased with the results up until the audio dropout problems began happening with the other sat channels switching over to HD. The crazy thing is UHD, HDMN and HDNET were outstandingly stable HD channels when I first started and now they're exhibiting this condition!

I'll go check out the other forum you mentioned, too.

Check your signal level on the 110 degree SAT. All of the channels you mention come from 110. Your dish may need realigning. However, don't try to adjust it yourself without knowing what you are doing... you could lose picture from ALL sats.

And just to keep my post germaine to this forum, does anyone (TI) know if the KU-MU pregame 6:30 Saturday on KMBC will be produced in HD?

Check your signal level on the 110 degree SAT. All of the channels you mention come from 110. Your dish may need realigning. However, don't try to adjust it yourself without knowing what you are doing... you could lose picture from ALL sats.

And just to keep my post germaine to this forum, does anyone (TI) know if the KU-MU pregame 6:30 Saturday on KMBC will be produced in HD?

I've been pursuing this issue on the DBS forum. I have found others having the same problem and it appears to be an MPEG conversion issue. Today all of the channels on my system are no longer exhibiting the audio dropout problem.....go figure. I've shared my story and satellite readings with the board so I'm waiting to see what they think. I read where I may be able to obtain a free realignment since my antenna was installed prior to a couple of the satellites going up. I'll check with D* on that. Thanks for the DBS tip!

I'm assumng the KU/MU game will be broadcast in HD(or at least an upconvert) as it's on KMBC-HD but it's not listed as such in the guide.

Check your signal level on the 110 degree SAT. All of the channels you mention come from 110. Your dish may need realigning. However, don't try to adjust it yourself without knowing what you are doing... you could lose picture from ALL sats.

And just to keep my post germaine to this forum, does anyone (TI) know if the KU-MU pregame 6:30 Saturday on KMBC will be produced in HD?

I've been pursuing this issue on the DBS forum. I have found others having the same problem and it appears to be an MPEG conversion issue. Today all of the channels on my system are no longer exhibiting the audio dropout problem.....go figure. I've shared my story and satellite readings with the board so I'm waiting to see what they think. I read where I may be able to obtain a free realignment since my antenna was installed prior to a couple of the satellites going up. I'll check with D* on that. Thanks for the DBS tip!

I'm assumng the KU/MU game will be broadcast in HD(or at least an upconvert) as it's on KMBC-HD but it's not listed as such in the guide.

All the guides that I have been looking at are showing that the game will not be broadcast in HD. I don't see a pregame show listing on KMBC either. Just KMBC News from 6 - 7 pm.

The guides showed College Football before they decided that it would be the KU-MU game and at that time it showed that it would be HD. So I'm thinking that it will unfortunately not be HD on Saturday. I can only remember watching one college football game in HD on ABC and it was last weekend, the game before it on ABC was not in HD.

The MU@KU game on saturday from Arrowhead WILL be broadcast in HD on ABC "Saturday night football". Also, ESPN college gameday will be broadcasting live(And in HD) saturday morning fromm 9-11 AM.

We had direct tv for many years and abandoned it about four years ago because we would lose the signal in storms. Has that changed?

Hey--

I have a question. I live on the southwest side of Kansas city, and when I search for channels they all show up--except ABC! :( I've tried a couple times in the past couple weeks, no luck. Is this normal for ABC to have weak or no reception? It's kind of frustrating to get every other channel with great signal and no ABC for some reason. Thanks

Taylor34

We had direct tv for many years and abandoned it about four years ago because we would lose the signal in storms. Has that changed?

I'm not an expert but I've had satellite service here in Leawood for over ten years with the two majors and both went down during periods of heavy rain (rain fade) or snow. It "comes with the territory".

Does anyone know why the rain fade condition doesn't affect the signal from the cable companies? They receive their main feed from a satellite antenna, don't they? Does it have anything to do with the size of the dish?

I am thinking of going D** hear real soon, just got a new SONY KDS A603000, and TW HD for KC is very limiting and disappointing to say the least. Not enough channels!

Does anyone hear have the new HR21 HD DVR for D**? Wondering if they are happy with it.

TWC question also. I want to keep TW for my high speed and phone...does anyone know if the basic cable still comes across the line, even though you dont pay for the subscription. I suspect that the analog stations (1-77) are constantly being shot to house if you have phone and internet. Maybe not, but I had a thought that they could not shut the basic channels off. Anyone just have phone and internet and tried hooking up a tv to the line?

Taylor, I have the same issue (Lees Summit). Based on information I found on AntennaWeb.org it appears that KMBC should have the strongest signal in my area however I can't get anything. Today, I puchased a VHF/UFH/HDTV antenna from Radio Shack and my signal strength got better on every station but still no ABC. KMBC is the only local DTV station broadcast on vhf so I'm assuming that must have something to do with the problem. I'm trying to get it fixed before tomorrow night's big game. Good Luck, and let me know if you find a solution. Tim

Hey--

I have a question. I live on the southwest side of Kansas city, and when I search for channels they all show up--except ABC! :( I've tried a couple times in the past couple weeks, no luck. Is this normal for ABC to have weak or no reception? It's kind of frustrating to get every other channel with great signal and no ABC for some reason. Thanks

Taylor34

I'm in somewhat of a low spot in OP and I have a small antenna. I can pick up ABC but it is flaky. Might come in good for 10 minutes, then terrible for 10 minutes. I think if you keep trying and do some minor adjustments to your antenna, you'll be able to pick it up at some point.

Taylor, I have the same issue (Lees Summit). Based on information I found on AntennaWeb.org it appears that KMBC should have the strongest signal in my area however I can't get anything. Today, I puchased a VHF/UFH/HDTV antenna from Radio Shack and my signal strength got better on every station but still no ABC. KMBC is the only local DTV station broadcast on vhf so I'm assuming that must have something to do with the problem. I'm trying to get it fixed before tomorrow night's big game. Good Luck, and let me know if you find a solution. Tim


Are you using any pre-amp for signal strength? Sometimes a pre-amp may overload the signal strength for VHF reception causing no signal to appear on your local scan.

I'm not an expert but I've had satellite service here in Leawood for over ten years with the two majors and both went down during periods of heavy rain (rain fade) or snow. It "comes with the territory".

Does anyone know why the rain fade condition doesn't affect the signal from the cable companies? They receive their main feed from a satellite antenna, don't they? Does it have anything to do with the size of the dish?

The cable companies recieve their signals, for the most part, from "C" band satellite dishes. And yes, they are a lot bigger. If you should drive by a TV station, or a cable headend, you will probably see one, or more dishes that are 30ft across, or more. But, more than that, it has to do with the wavelength of the microwaves from the satellite. The ones that Direct TV use, are smaller that the rain drops in a heavy thunderstorm. The microwaves can't penetrate the heavy rain. Hence, rainfade.

The C-band dishes use larger microwaves. So, rainfade isn't an issue. With the exception of NBC, the TV networks also use C-band. So the TV stations aren't affected by rainfade as much, either. Though, NBC does have some C-band backups.

Don H.

Next Week Aaron Burnhart will be posting a story on Comcast and TWCKC because he a long talk with both them.
Everest has TVDATA channel that's ZAPIT'S TV Guide channel and Hometown Shopping channel that's a local one and Comcast/TWCKC and AT&T U-Verse here don't carry them yet and only shows the Digital Channels you suscribe to and others. To get to the ones you don't suscribe to you have to go to the Guide.

Taylor, I have the same issue (Lees Summit). Based on information I found on AntennaWeb.org it appears that KMBC should have the strongest signal in my area however I can't get anything. Today, I puchased a VHF/UFH/HDTV antenna from Radio Shack and my signal strength got better on every station but still no ABC. KMBC is the only local DTV station broadcast on vhf so I'm assuming that must have something to do with the problem. I'm trying to get it fixed before tomorrow night's big game. Good Luck, and let me know if you find a solution. Tim

I live out west and have had the same issue. I bought an HDTV antenna Tuesday, and it worked great, didn't have a problem with KMBC until either yesterday or today, I believe. My signal is 0 and occasionally I get a 20. I REALLY hope they get this fixed before tomorrow night!!!! I'm lucky, I haven't cancelled cable just yet.

http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/364634.html-The arrival of AT&T as a new competitor has not changed the company’s expectations meaning Everest for continued subscriber growth and expansion in 2008 to Leawood, Olathe and Prairie Village, Spencer said.

Everst has been planning to expand into Prairie Village since 2006 according to their web site back then.

That looks like my line up on my QAM tuner in Raymore, execpt no FOX HD on 114.3 or KCWE on 118.3. I can only find the FOX sd channel on my LG DVD recorder.


Since my wife is using the cable box to record a show on Bio, I had an hour this morning to go through the QAM channels to find out if there are any new digital channels. I found these channels now on QAM and I am wondering if Comcast is planning on moving all their channels from analog to digital:

21.1 - Olathe community channel 7
21.2 - JCCC (ch. 22)
21.3 - Olathe school district (ch. 18)
21.5 - KCPT
21.33 - Local origination (ch. 20)
61.10 -
76.3 - KCPT 3
76.4 - KCPT 4 (Create)
81.1 - A&E HD (No sound)
82.3 - KMBC HD
83.3 - KSHB HD
86.3 - KCTV HD
91.8 - CNN Espanol
92.1 - KCPT SD
92.2 - KCPT HD
94.1 - CSPAN 2 SD (Ch. 95)
94.6 - Discovery Health (Ch. 15)
94.9 - HSN SD (Ch. 16)
94.10 - QVC SD (Ch. 11)
98.4 - WDAF SD (Ch. 6)
98.5 - KCTV SD (Ch. 3)
98.9 - KMBC SD (Ch. 12)
98.10 - KSMO SD (Ch. 10)
98.19 - KCPT SD (Ch. 4)
98.29 - KCWE SD (Ch. 13)
98.38 - KMCI SD (Ch. 2)
98.41 - KSHB SD (Ch. 8)
98.50 - KPXE SD (Ch. 9)
100.12 - WGN
103.31 - Univision
104.1 - 104.54 - Music Choice
114.3 - WDAF HD
118.3 - KCWE HD

If you notice, the channels in the 98.x range has the .x value as the same number as their normal OTA channel number.

TWCKC should expand into Comcast area's.
Everest is like S. Dish with it's Guide and so on.

I just purchased an HDTV and am trying to squeeze HD out of my basic cable (KC Time Warner) pckg. My tv found several digital signals (some local, disney, espnu) above my basic pckg but many of them fade in and out. The only local channels that are solid are NBC and PBS. CBS comes and goes. I can't get ABC or Fox at all. I tried a Philips signal booster but it had no effect. I'd probably be happy for a while if I could just get the locals in HD as TW would cost another $25/month for an HD pckg. I hate to go to an OTA/cable combo due to the hassle of switching. Going to satellite would bump up my road runner costs when I drop cable. Anyone have any ideas on how I can get these channels to come in? Thanks for your help.

I just purchased an HDTV and am trying to squeeze HD out of my basic cable (KC Time Warner) pckg. My tv found several digital signals (some local, disney, espnu) above my basic pckg but many of them fade in and out. The only local channels that are solid are NBC and PBS. CBS comes and goes. I can't get ABC or Fox at all. I tried a Philips signal booster but it had no effect. I'd probably be happy for a while if I could just get the locals in HD as TW would cost another $25/month for an HD pckg. I hate to go to an OTA/cable combo due to the hassle of switching. Going to satellite would bump up my road runner costs when I drop cable. Anyone have any ideas on how I can get these channels to come in? Thanks for your help.

I have pretty much the same setup as you do, but I don't have any problems with the signal 'fading' out.

A.) Make sure you have RG-6 grade cable from the wall to your TV. DO NOT run the cable through a cable box, VCR, DVD Recorder ect. as that only degrades the signal. Also, eliminate splitters from the line as well.

B.) You will only get the local stations, plus ESPN-U.

83-6 - KCWE-DT
93-12 - WDAF-DT
100-1 - Disney East (?)
100-11 - KSHB-DT 41.2 (Weather Plus)
100-12 - KSHB-DT
106-12 - KCTV-DT
108-12 - KSMO-DT
111-6 - Disney West (?)
112-12 - KMBC-DT
113-9 - KCPT 2 (6 AM-6 PM)
113-10 - KCPT Create (6 AM-6 PM)
113-11 - KCPT HD (6 PM-6 AM) SD (6 AM-6 PM)
113-12 - KCPT (Analog Simulcast)
115-11 - ESPN-U

hendooman:

I believe, because I was standing right next to the TWC guy when he opened the box by the street and he talked me through what he was doing, that they put a trap on that filters out any cable signal when you drop cable. I have RR, and the phone through them, but no cable since I'm a big DTV guy.

I have pretty much the same setup as you do, but I don't have any problems with the signal 'fading' out.

A.) Make sure you have RG-6 grade cable from the wall to your TV. DO NOT run the cable through a cable box, VCR, DVD Recorder ect. as that only degrades the signal. Also, eliminate splitters from the line as well.

B.) You will only get the local stations, plus ESPN-U.

83-6 - KCWE-DT
93-12 - WDAF-DT
100-1 - Disney East (?)
100-11 - KSHB-DT 41.2 (Weather Plus)
100-12 - KSHB-DT
106-12 - KCTV-DT
108-12 - KSMO-DT
111-6 - Disney West (?)
112-12 - KMBC-DT
113-9 - KCPT 2 (6 AM-6 PM)
113-10 - KCPT Create (6 AM-6 PM)
113-11 - KCPT HD (6 PM-6 AM) SD (6 AM-6 PM)
113-12 - KCPT (Analog Simulcast)
115-11 - ESPN-U

Thanks for the kind reply. I'm only getting about half the channels you've listed.

I do have my cable running thru the dvd/vcr recorder first and the coax seems kind of light from there to the tv. I also have my signal split four ways (three tvs including the hdtv and internet). If I run the cable directly to the hdtv, how to I hook up the dvd recorder? I did notice I get slighly better reception on my dvd recorder (it has a digital tuner) though it is still not good enough. I appreciate the suggestions. If anyone has any more, I'm willing to learn. Thanks.

I am moving to the KC area in January and was wondering what HD service to get. What cable companies offer the most HD channels Time Warner? Everest? or Comcast(not sure if comcast is KC) or should I just go with Direct. I don't want to do OTA bc I am already planning on getting movie and sports packages. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the kind reply. I'm only getting about half the channels you've listed.

I do have my cable running thru the dvd/vcr recorder first and the coax seems kind of light from there to the tv. I also have my signal split four ways (three tvs including the hdtv and internet). If I run the cable directly to the hdtv, how to I hook up the dvd recorder? I did notice I get slighly better reception on my dvd recorder (it has a digital tuner) though it is still not good enough. I appreciate the suggestions. If anyone has any more, I'm willing to learn. Thanks.

I recommend you run a straight cable to you HDTV and do a retune to see what channels you get. Depending on the quality of the QAM tuner, you might be able to get all the channels that the other poster listed. If you are getting that then, signal degradation because of splits is what is causing your problems. Radioshack has a 1-in, 4-out amplifier for about $50. You could try that. You can always return it if it does not work out. Make sure to put this amp before any splitting happens.

Hi Pong. It would probably be best for you to view their respective websites to see their offerings. It depends on the part of the metro area you're moving to as to what provider options you'll have.

Hi Pong. It would probably be best for you to view their respective websites to see their offerings. It depends on the part of the metro area you're moving to as to what provider options you'll have.
You might try the following links.

http://www.everestkc.com/index.shtml
http://www.timewarnercable.com/kansascity/
http://www.comcast.com/

Good luck with your move.

I recommend you run a straight cable to you HDTV and do a retune to see what channels you get. Depending on the quality of the QAM tuner, you might be able to get all the channels that the other poster listed. If you are getting that then, signal degradation because of splits is what is causing your problems. Radioshack has a 1-in, 4-out amplifier for about $50. You could try that. You can always return it if it does not work out. Make sure to put this amp before any splitting happens.

Thanks, bommai. I'll try the direct cable connection this morning. If this works, would I then be unable to use my dvd recorder on this television? Thanks.

You might try the following links.

http://www.everestkc.com/index.shtml
http://www.timewarnercable.com/kansascity/
http://www.comcast.com/

Good luck with your move.


Comcast serves Independence, Missouri and Olathe, Kansas.

TimeWarner serves almost all of Kansas City, Jackson/Platte/Clay counties in Missouri and Wyandotte and Johnson Counties in Kansas, except for those areas served by Comcast.

Everest serves Johnson County in Kansas in the towns of Lenexa, areas of Overland Park and Shawnee and some areas in Kansas City (please add if I have missed any areas). Everest does overlap areas served by TimeWarner in Johnson County, so you may be able to get better rates if you are moving into one of these overlapped areas.

You may also want to look into AT&T's UVerse service, which is being rolled out on a limited basis in the area.

The AT&T U-Verse website:
http://uverse.att.com

Thanks for the help yall it helps out a lot. I know very little about KC. I haven't figured out where I living yet. Probably Olathe, OP, Mission, or Shawnee. I am working if anyone wants to give me suggestions on best place to live that would be great just PM me since this thread is abotu KC HD

Where they will be when Comcast adds them here
195-USA HD
212-History HD
213-CNN HD but 213 is

PREHDDM
Premium Channels HD On Demand
Everest customers Big Ten Network being added 12-14-07 was in today's Sports Section.

Comcast users some of the National HD channels have Sound know and some both Sound and a Picture and FSN Midwest just a Screen with Color Lines.
214 NHL Network TWCKC Know Comcast is the only one here without it and like Fox Business Channel.

The cable companies recieve their signals, for the most part, from "C" band satellite dishes. And yes, they are a lot bigger. If you should drive by a TV station, or a cable headend, you will probably see one, or more dishes that are 30ft across, or more. But, more than that, it has to do with the wavelength of the microwaves from the satellite. The ones that Direct TV use, are smaller that the rain drops in a heavy thunderstorm. The microwaves can't penetrate the heavy rain. Hence, rainfade.

The C-band dishes use larger microwaves. So, rainfade isn't an issue. With the exception of NBC, the TV networks also use C-band. So the TV stations aren't affected by rainfade as much, either. Though, NBC does have some C-band backups.

Don H.

Thanks I appreciate the explanation, that makes sense!

I recommend you run a straight cable to you HDTV and do a retune to see what channels you get. Depending on the quality of the QAM tuner, you might be able to get all the channels that the other poster listed. If you are getting that then, signal degradation because of splits is what is causing your problems. Radioshack has a 1-in, 4-out amplifier for about $50. You could try that. You can always return it if it does not work out. Make sure to put this amp before any splitting happens.
bommai:

Just a follow up to let you know the results. I decided to try the Radio Shack amp since it was close and less expensive. They didn't have the one in-four out at my store so I just got the one in-one out ($29) and placed it before my four way splitter. Wa-la, all the available digital channels came in very strongly. My wife and I thought it also sped up the internet on both wired and wireless connections. I don't know if this is the best solution but it's sure adequate for now.

Thanks again for your help.

hd-rookie-

I'm glad that worked out for you. I have a 3' wire from the wall to my tv and only get an 80% signal strength on the QAM-Clear channels, so I figured splitting it 4 ways would drop it down a lot. It sure is nice to have the locals in HD without having to pay extra, or mess with an antenna!

EMBO,

Thanks for your reply...it makes sense they would trap the line. Still wondering though since I am dropping cable if they will send out someone to trap the line. I guess I will see as D** is coming out on saturday for my new install. The second it is working i am calling TW and telling them to stick their cable where the sun don't shine. I shouldn't be so hard on them but the service as of late has been horrible and I have just had it...

EMBO,

Thanks for your reply...it makes sense they would trap the line. Still wondering though since I am dropping cable if they will send out someone to trap the line. I guess I will see as D** is coming out on saturday for my new install. The second it is working i am calling TW and telling them to stick their cable where the sun don't shine. I shouldn't be so hard on them but the service as of late has been horrible and I have just had it...

You won't be sorry. I changed from Everest to D* a few months ago and have been thrilled. So much Hi-Def!!

I'm in Lee's Summit on Comcast and have a Panasonic TH-42Px60U which has ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuner. I just connected the cable feed durectly to the TV and ran scan. The TV picked up channels 2-83 however it did not pick-up any HD channels. Any ideas?

Thanks Tim

I'm in Lee's Summit on Comcast and have a Panasonic TH-42Px60U which has ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuner. I just connected the cable feed durectly to the TV and ran scan. The TV picked up channels 2-83 however it did not pick-up any HD channels. Any ideas?

Thanks Tim

I also live in Lees Summit and have Comcast (basic). I get most local channels in QAM (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CW). I don't know anything about how your TV works, but make sure you have the cable hooked up to the digital coax input and not the analog (some TVs have separate ones). Make sure you have configured it correctly on the TV. Also, some TVs have analog and digital tuner separately that you need to switch between (my JVC HD-ILA is like that). Channels 2 through 83 that you mention are all analog. Digitals will be like 76-1, 82-3, etc.

WDAF is about to be sold.
Maybe this week changes on Comcast here.
Lots of people in Olathe want Fox Business Channel on AT&T U-Verse because Comcast doesn't offer it yet.
http://www.everestkc.com/about/BigTenNetwork.shtml

Hendoo....

I'll bet if you take your TWC box in the the TWC store and drop it off.....it will be quite awhile before they actually, if ever, come put that trap in. Do you have digital cable now?

On the other hand, if they come pick up the box, they'll almost certainly put the trap in.

Just a thought.

Whats up with WDAF. I get a signal but the picture is like it's been squezed and repeated overlaps across the screen. It's the same OTA and From cable (QAM). Been this way for the last couple of days.

I watched WDAF-DT last night on Time Warner Cable QAM-Clear on both my Westinghouse LCD and my LG LCD TV's and it was fine. I watched Bones and House both in HD. I'm thinking your tuner might be going bad, isn't WDAF-DT the only KC singal in 720p with everybody else 1080i (Even KMBC-DT is 1080i now)

I watched WDAF-DT last night on Time Warner Cable QAM-Clear on both my Westinghouse LCD and my LG LCD TV's and it was fine. I watched Bones and House both in HD. I'm thinking your tuner might be going bad, isn't WDAF-DT the only KC singal in 720p with everybody else 1080i (Even KMBC-DT is 1080i now)

You're right, KMBC is broadcasting 1080i now. When did they start doing this and why? Isn't the ABC HD feed still 720p?

Wow KMBC9 DT-07 is now 1080i instead of 720p. What's up? Any ideas? :confused:

it changed when they moved to the new studio.

In Liberty, my digital service is totally trashed tonight. No HD... no digital channels at all. Makes my DVR act like it's on acid. Service calls with Time Warner have resulted in about 10 reboots, to no avail.

Fun, fun, fun.

I noticed last night while watching KSHB DT during the news, they now have vertical pillar boxes that say "KSHB-DT Kansas City", kind of like how ESPN HD does their pillar boxes when they show 4:3. I wonder if this means this is step 1 of many steps to get the news in HD, hopefully soon.

For some reason this afternoon KCTV-DT 106-12 on my LG QAM Tuner is Scrambled.

For some reason this afternoon KCTV-DT 106-12 on my LG QAM Tuner is Scrambled.

Mine is too....grrrr. Anybody done a channel scan on TWC Qam-clear lately? Maybe they are just moving channels around.

Well I just did a re-scan....

ESPN-HD is QAM-Clear (for now) on 103-6

Never did find KCTV-DT

Hendoo....

I'll bet if you take your TWC box in the the TWC store and drop it off.....it will be quite awhile before they actually, if ever, come put that trap in. Do you have digital cable now?

On the other hand, if they come pick up the box, they'll almost certainly put the trap in.

Just a thought.

I did have digital cable & HD, dropped it all. Turned boxes in at the OP location. Kept basic cable, RR, and Phone. I am tempted to drop basic cable and see if I still get it through my lines. I think you are right, they would probably take 3 years to get to my house. We are in an old neighborhood, so it would require some pole climbing.

LENEXA, Kan. (AP) - A California company is buying Lenexa-based cable provider Everest Broadband for $173 million.

SureWest Communications of suburban Sacramento says it plans to complete the acquisition by the end of the first quarter next year.

Everest serves about 39,000 homes and businesses in Lenexa, Overland Park, Shawnee and Kansas City. Besides cable, the company also sells Internet and telephone services.

The company was part of Kansas City-based utility Aquila until it was sold last year to New York-based Seaport Capital Partners Three.

Everest says it doesn't plan to change operations and may use its new source of capital to expand into Leawood and Olathe.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=20786c85-e037-4dd1-af68-9ae0c4ee1fb8

Planet Green is the new name of Discovery Home & Leisure, focusing on eco-friendly programming. You may have already heard of one program it's launching in 2008, “Greensburg Eco-Town,” which will document efforts in tornado-devastated Greensburg, Kan., to rebuild using environmentally friendly materials.
In today's TVBARN it talks about Time Warner Navigator and so on.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Bumps-Public-Access-from-Analog-to-Digital-90071 could mean the ones we get are moving.

Question for anyone with D** HD. Just got my D** HD locals going and have noticed that all of my channels, 4,5,9, etc show up as HD except for NBC 41. Even the evening programs have the letterbox on sides, top and bottom and have to use the crop function on the HR-20 reciever. Anyone else have this problem or did my scan just miss the digital version? Thanks.

Dateline: Olathe

Well, we finally have U-Verse in my part of Olathe. The really exciting thing about this is that Comcast will now have to compete or they are gone :) I threatened to leave last summer and they promptly dropped my rate in half (just about) and I have the rate for one full year.

However, if they pull some BS next summer, I will move to U-Verse. Any opinion on that service?

Well I just did a re-scan....

ESPN-HD is QAM-Clear (for now) on 103-6

Never did find KCTV-DT


KCTV-DT is still gone and 103-6 for me is scrambled. I guess I can't be upset... I just can't believe I need to go get a set of rabbit ears to watch the Chiefs game in HD in this town. (Actually I want the Chargers game) I'm on TW cable in KC near Liberty

KCTV-DT is still gone and 103-6 for me is scrambled. I guess I can't be upset... I just can't believe I need to go get a set of rabbit ears to watch the Chiefs game in HD in this town. (Actually I want the Chargers game) I'm on TW cable in KC near Liberty

I haven't re-scanned, but 103-6 is gone for me now too. I had it this morning. Anybody know what the heck TW is doing? Not long ago, TNT was coming across for a day or so, ESPN was in the clear for 3 or 4 days, CBS is gone.....I just can't come up with an explanation for the changes.

I ended up finding KCTV on channel "0" on my QAM tuner through TWC. I had ESPN until around 10:30am on 103.6. Seems like the stations change every few weeks.

I think they just like to jack with us... honestly.

KCTV-DT is on 77-6 on my TWC QAM Tuner now.

Question for anyone with D** HD. Just got my D** HD locals going and have noticed that all of my channels, 4,5,9, etc show up as HD except for NBC 41. Even the evening programs have the letterbox on sides, top and bottom and have to use the crop function on the HR-20 reciever. Anyone else have this problem or did my scan just miss the digital version? Thanks.

I don't recall the model of my receiver, but it's the new MPEG4 HD DVR -- I think the HR-20.

I assume you're getting the HD locals from D*, and not through an attached antenna. Anyway, make sure you're seeing all your channels (Favorites set to "All Channels". There should be 2 entries for each of 4, 5, 9, and 41. In my experience, the HD version is listed first and the SD version is second. I think the HD version has the actual call letters listed by it (WDAF, KCMO, KMBC, KSHB), and the SD version is called KC4, KC5, KC9, KC41.

I know NBC letterboxes some of their primetime programming in SD, so if you're getting that, it's likely SD. If you're watching 41 and getting them from D*, make sure it's the call letter version, not the SD version. I've found when I just enter the channel number, it defaults to HD for me. When you get the right HD channels identified, it might help to use one of your "favorites" entries to remove the SD versions from your guide view.

Hope that helps.

It's going to happen in the last 17 days before next year because in the guys post here it said 7 more HD Channels before the end of the year but it could be pushed backed to next year.
Yetserday 249 Weather Plus was out and last night Versus,ESPN AND ESPN2 were out but they were working if I went to channel 963 and also Court TV was out last night to.
The day before CNN Headline News and CNN were out in the Evening.
This where they probley will be
193 - Discovery Channel HD
194 - SCI FI HD
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2007/09/fox_business_channel_taps_5_fr.php Probley January 2008.

You might be at Wal-mart or Best Buy when their's a person from your Comcast Office their like today at my Wal-mart Olathe but didn't ask the person if when my Comcast is adding or moving any channels.
In this Months bill Important Channel information 12/31/07 Nick Games & Sports [GAS] CHANNEL 133 will end programming and the N will begin airing programming on channel 133. Noggin pre-school programming will be aired full time channel 131 but nothing about the others changing in January and channels be added or moved coming up also a Lineup Card that should have come in September bill because the effective date is 10-1-07 because as of today should have been include that includes TBS HD MTV Hits not URGE TV because they haven't changed it here to that name.
Weather Plus will be on other Cable Systems soon.

Myabe tommorow changes/additions on Comcast here. Cross your fingers.

Nope. Wrong again.

I don't watch local news very often, but I noticed recently that KMBC9 local news broadcasts were in HD....the only local HD newscast in town!!

With this cold/crappy/snowy/icy weather as of late, I dvr'd a couple of news programs to watch the weather and was shocked to see it was in HD.

I thought that was kinda' cool.

If you tune in to the Chiefs game vs. Detroit Sunday (big IF), do not get mad and call KCTV when you see yucky 480i... CBS has decided NOT to televise Sunday's game in HD. They only have the ability to televise 5 HD games per week. (The other SD game is Baltimore @ Seattle.)

Incidentally, the game with the biggest differential in wins (13) between two NFL teams, ever, will be televised in HD to most of the country as the CBS late game (Miami @ New England). The only reason they're highlighting that game is to see if the Pats can keep their pursuit of perfection alive... and if it was against some team like St. Louis, it wouldn't be as big a deal as the Dolphins trying to keep their '72 team as the only perfect season. I wonder how big a lead the Pats will have to build before they switch to another game here...

Is anyone seeing your OTA tuner lose lock on WDAF-DT the last few days? I'm seeing it on at least two different tuners - one built into a TV and one E*722. This has happened at least 3 times that I remember - maybe more. Once it lasted long enough that I just changed channels, and a couple of times it came back in a few seconds. Signal strength is fine. Haven't seen this since the early days of DTV.

Brad

Doesn't mean anything at the moment but noticed last night that CSPN2 is on 104,CSPN3 105,213 - PREHDDM Premium Channels HD On Demand 214 - MUSHDDM Music HD on Demand are know behind Starz HD meaning like Fox Business Channel and CNN HD will be here soon and 282-284 are gone.
Fox Business Channel will be here in MO in January on Comcast.
Wouldn't NGHD be a new HD channel on TWCKC because on it's Lineup for Overland Park it has that channel, MTV Spanish East and so on as channels without a package yet?

Is anyone seeing your OTA tuner lose lock on WDAF-DT the last few days? I'm seeing it on at least two different tuners - one built into a TV and one E*722. This has happened at least 3 times that I remember - maybe more. Once it lasted long enough that I just changed channels, and a couple of times it came back in a few seconds. Signal strength is fine. Haven't seen this since the early days of DTV.

Brad

I have had 2 mornings this week that I could not get WDAF-DT at all OTA.

When are we going to see new HD channel activity on TWCKC? I'm very unimpressed with their non-effort in adding new channels.

When are we going to see new HD channel activity on TWCKC? I'm very unimpressed with their non-effort in adding new channels.

+1

When are we going to see new HD channel activity on TWCKC? I'm very unimpressed with their non-effort in adding new channels.

I guess I spoke too soon. They have added National Geographic HD on 1461, History HD on 1462, and FSN Midwest HD on 1496.

Interesting choices to add, but it's good to see something new.

I'm still shocked that Time Warner Cable hasn't added Time Warner Inc. channels TBS-HD and CNN-HD to the lineup....

TWCKC Lineup for Overland Park has added the most recently because the other two Lineups only show 3 new channels without a package.
The ones you mentioned aren't in the Online yet along with non HD ones if they were added.
Comcast hasen't added CNN HD yet but will soon and probley to History,MYKSMOTV,USA,SCIFI and so on HD Channels.
Can't think of which non HD Channels they will be adding only NHL Network,Fox Business Channel and Bloomberg News and maybe IFC,Fuse,FITTV and so on.
ShopNBC and Jewerly Television will probley be on Comcast here soon because I see a Commercial for them on my TV and only gives TWCKC channnel number when their are also available on EverestKC and AT&T U-Verse here.
At GATEWAYCITYRADIO.com at Television Forum somebody asking when is a KMBC new Channel coming on air so are they adding a new channel like a RTN Affliate or ACCUWEATHER Channel or 24/7 Local News channel or ABC News Now that none of the Cable Systems in KC have contract with it yet and it's a national channel not local one?

Received my cable bill statement today. In the bill was an insert listing the cable channel lineup. The channels listed under HD are exactly the same channels that are available now. No new HD channels were listed. But, I did receive a notice that Comcast was raising the fee they're charging for the sports tier from $4.95 to $7.95 per month, but that existing subscribers would be able to keep the price at $4.95 for one year. Guess that kills my idea to scrap the sports tier after Saturday night's Patriots-Giants game and resubscribe right before the Hall of Fame game (for those not in the know, these are NFL Network/NFL HD games).

January sometime probley because they have moved some channels so like Fox Business Channel-Jaunary,CNN and History channel HD can be added but might have to move some more channels to Digital for more HD Channels like MYKSMOTV,USA,SCIFI and so on HD channels.
Know for non HD channels they could just add them.

My parents live near Windsor, near Whiteman AFB. They currently receive analog network tv OTA, receiving a pretty good signal (most of the time) from 4 and 5 and whatever the local PBS feed (ch. 6) is. They can also receive Columbia's Ch. 9 (ABC).

When looking at antennaweb.org, the site indicates the only digital signal that can be received is PBS from Sedalia. Can anyone tell me whether the coverage map for the digital signals will ever match that of analog? They do not want to get satellite or cable because they can't pick and choose the stations they want any more.

My dad has been looking at digital tv's and I'm scared to have him spend the money one something when the only station they will be able to receive post February, 2009 is PBS.

My parents live near Windsor, near Whiteman AFB. They currently receive analog network tv OTA, receiving a pretty good signal (most of the time) from 4 and 5 and whatever the local PBS feed (ch. 6) is. They can also receive Columbia's Ch. 9 (ABC).

When looking at antennaweb.org, the site indicates the only digital signal that can be received is PBS from Sedalia. Can anyone tell me whether the coverage map for the digital signals will ever match that of analog? They do not want to get satellite or cable because they can't pick and choose the stations they want any more.

My dad has been looking at digital tv's and I'm scared to have him spend the money one something when the only station they will be able to receive post February, 2009 is PBS.
That is a great question that I was soon going to ask on behalf of my parents up in Chillicothe MO. I wonder if they will be able to receive OTA TV when everything is digital?

Let's hope for answers.

I'm doubtful that there is a black-and-white answer to the digital vs analog TV reception question. The policy intent of the FCC is for digital signals to have the same coverage area as current analog signals, and the maximum transmission power limits have been set with that in mind.

However, there are several potential gotchas, including:

* First and foremost, analog signals degrade "gracefully" over distance, meaning that the picture is less clear and more prone to interference as you move further away from the transmission tower. Digital signals work entirely differently, and there's a shorthand way of explaining this called "the cliff effect."

Assuming for a moment that the effective range of a given digital TV signal is 40 miles, you should be able to receive it just as effectively at 1 mile from the tower as from 40 miles. But if you go much beyond 40 miles, you slide off "the cliff" and receive nothing when tuned to that station.

So there's an inherent trade-off between analog and digital signals -- analog signals generally can be received over a longer distance, but with significantly more signal degradation, while a digital signal will be essentially the same from one end of its effective range to the other.

Let me stress that I'm using a hypothetical 40-mile range here to illustrate the point. Do not read anything more into that number other than it being MY hypothetical.

* Some smaller stations and PBS affiliates have resisted the requirement to operate at the full power specification needed to match their analog coverage area. I'm not intimately familiar with the ins and outs of this issue, but the basic point is that the cost of operating at full power to hit 100% of the target coverage area versus say 70% power to hit 90% of the target area. In other words, marginally profitable stations would prefer to operate at lower power and lower cost, even though it means reaching fewer total viewers.

You might want to search Google News to see if you can find more background on this.

* Every transmission scenario is different, regardless of whether it involves analog signals or digital. In a flat, topographically featureless area like central Nebraska, signals have a much better chance of traveling unimpeded across their maximum coverage area, while the same strength signal has a much smaller chance of reaching the same distance intact in a large urban area like New York City or Los Angeles. While those are extreme examples, the point to be made here is that no two transmission areas are the same.

Now, you might say that this part of the equation should be an apples-to-apples comparison between analog and digital from the same tower -- but that's not the case.

In both analog and digital transmissions, one of the main detriments to reliable receipt of the signal is multi-path interference, where the original signal is reflected or bounced off some natural or man-made obstruction between the tower and an individual antenna.

In an analog world, multi-path interference results in image/audio "ghosting" as the receiver sees the primary signal, closely followed by the reflected/delayed signal; in a digital world, multi-path interference typically has the effect of the receiver rejecting both signals, resulting in no picture and no sound.

One of the main improvements in digital tuner technology since the launch of digital television nearly a decade ago has been the ability of digital tuners to filter out multi-path interference. But despite improvements, this continues to be an thorny issue and is probably the leading cause for poor reception of specific stations in areas where all other stations are received reliably. Thus, what might seem like a coverage area issue might actually be a matter of chronic multi-path interference.

I suspect that this isn't the sort of definitive answer you were looking for, so let me make a suggestion -- try it and see what you can receive.

Nebrguy, you can do this at relatively little cost by buying a cheap Radio Shack outdoor antenna and then taking it and your own OTA receiver with you the next time you visit your parents. Most HD set-top boxes with an OTA receiver have composite or S-Video outputs (some even have RF), so you should be able to get an idea of what can be received, even without having an HD-capable display at hand.

Good luck.

http://www.gatewaycityradio.com/messageboard/tvboard.asp check out the KMBC DT Topic second to last post.
Nick Gas is now called the N and its programming goes to just Online after 6am Tommorow and Preschool programming comes to Noggin. The TV Guide has a story on it in the KC Star today.
Court TV hasn't changed it's name yet on Comcast to True TV.
The Fox Business Channel is schduled to be launched on January 10th 2008
on channel 106. With any launch this date could be pushed back or
forward.

NebrGuy,
First of all, GBR. I hope that Doc orders up a surprising Big 12 season to get us through this miserable winter.

Secondly, your parents live a little farther away than I do, in the opposite direction. I have the benefit of higher elevation and the Kaw River valley channel effect to assist my reception of KC DTV signals, but I get all but 41 (NBC) fairly cleanly using a ChannelMaster 4228 with pre-amp. Mine is only mounted eave-high, and I also get some nasty multi-path from the town grain elevator about 15 degrees south of my KC line-of-sight, but I do OK. I wonder: if your parents have an antenna tower (probably) they might have similar success with a 4228 mounted facing KC. The 4228 is a grid, better for receiving UHF signals (which all the KC stations are except KMBC 9 (ABC)) and you mount it perpendicular to the ground, as if you were looking thru its "window" to see the direction you want to receive. Kinda complicated for just a test run, though.

68 miles is pretty fringe-y, as Doug described it.

Did anyone else notice that the picture FOX (D**) was giving today on the Tigers game was below par? I am watching the Rose bowl now and the picture is way better...Summeral was just as unimpressive also.

I watched on Time Warner which has a fiber connection to WDAF-DT and at the start of the game we would drop audio for a couple of seconds, the picture would freeze for a half second and then the audio would return. I didn't notice this much past the 1st quarter. I thought the picture looked fine, but the Sugar Bowl does look a little bit better to me on the same TV.

I know this is a little off topic but it's driving me crazy. I have Dish Network HD my question is why is the audio lower on HD channels, when I switch back to a regular channel it's blaring. I have noticed this on both of my HD TV's, I thought it was something in the settings on the TV itself but cannot find anything out of the ordianary.

I don't have the answer, but it bothers me also stevei44.

I know this is a little off topic but it's driving me crazy. I have Dish Network HD my question is why is the audio lower on HD channels, when I switch back to a regular channel it's blaring. I have noticed this on both of my HD TV's, I thought it was something in the settings on the TV itself but cannot find anything out of the ordianary.

To answer your question, this quote is from a UK forum, but it pretty much applied to all HD vs SD broadcast. I also have DISH with 622 and I just remember to lower the volume before I change it to an SD channel.

"The HD channels play back in DD5.1, the SD channels only in stereo. You have your Sky box connected to your TV and your stereo system using stereo cables, so all volume is ouput in stere on a stereo transmission. You are not hearing the discrete centre channel, rear surround channels or sub-woofer when a DD5.1 transmission is being played."

Good morning! I've been scanning this thread and have hopes that I can find a little information here. I appreciate any help you can offer.

I'm researching ways to get an over the air HD signal of the Super Bowl for a church Super Bowl fellowship. We have an HD capable projector in our sanctuary where we would like to display the game.

We're looking at antennas and set top boxes. We checked the signal on antenna web though and the Fox affiliate, channel 4, isn't listed as even having a digital signal.

Our church is in Harrisonville, MO and which is about 30-40 miles south of the downtown KC area.

Any advice? Should we actually be able to get a signal? Every other channel is listed so I'm wondering why Fox 4 would be absent. According to them their tower is in Grandview which would make it one of the closer signals.

According to them their tower is in Grandview which would make it one of the closer signals.

Fox 4 tower is at 31st & Summit in KCMO.

Good morning! I've been scanning this thread and have hopes that I can find a little information here. I appreciate any help you can offer.

I'm researching ways to get an over the air HD signal of the Super Bowl for a church Super Bowl fellowship. We have an HD capable projector in our sanctuary where we would like to display the game.

We're looking at antennas and set top boxes. We checked the signal on antenna web though and the Fox affiliate, channel 4, isn't listed as even having a digital signal.

Our church is in Harrisonville, MO and which is about 30-40 miles south of the downtown KC area.

Any advice? Should we actually be able to get a signal? Every other channel is listed so I'm wondering why Fox 4 would be absent. According to them their tower is in Grandview which would make it one of the closer signals.
I don't think Antenna web is completely accurate about WDAF-DT. I currently live in Olathe and pull in WDAF-DT just fine. Channel 9 is a little tricky just because it is VHF. I would think if you can pull in all the other locals digital signal then Fox 4's digital signal should come in as well.

I should have said north of the Grandview Triangle I think for the tower location. I'm thinking we should be able to get good reception with a decent outdoor antenna. I think we can go with a directional one as well since all the towers are within a few degrees of each other from our position south of the city.

Anybody had issues connecting to a projector?

As I do more research I'm tempted to pick up an antenna for my house. I have HD from Dish Network but with about a hundred bucks I might get pretty good, all weather HDTV.

Just make sure that the HD outputs of your set top box either match or can be easily converted to the inputs of your projector.

It should be noted that a public live performance of the Super Bowl is against copyright...even for a church that wouldn't charge admission. I'm just sayin'.

I should have said north of the Grandview Triangle I think for the tower location. I'm thinking we should be able to get good reception with a decent outdoor antenna. I think we can go with a directional one as well since all the towers are within a few degrees of each other from our position south of the city.

Anybody had issues connecting to a projector?

As I do more research I'm tempted to pick up an antenna for my house. I have HD from Dish Network but with about a hundred bucks I might get pretty good, all weather HDTV.

You shouldn't have any problem picking up WDAF-DT from Harrisonville. They broadcast on actual channel 34 (Virtual channel 4.1) with a strong signal (1000kW effective). Their tower, as mmax said, is at 31st and Summit (nowhere near Grandview Triangle; this is where channels 38's and 41's tower is, however).

If your projector will accept component video (Y-Pb-Pr), HDMI, or DVI, you shouldn't have any problem hooking it up to any HD-capable set-top-box. If you quiz the congregation, someone probably has a STB that will work. A Dish Network STB will only work on OTA if it can "see" a satellite, so it would be some amount of trouble to set that all up at the church for a one-time event. You would be better off with an OTA-only STB if someone has one. I'm not sure if DirectTV's boxes will work without seeing a satellite - they may.

I have Dish and have OTA hooked up to both my DVRs - makes it great because you can record 3 local channels at a time, or watch one and record two. No reason to think you're too far away.

As for an antenna, here is a link to an antenna you may want to try at the church, and then take home:
http://www.warrenelectronics.com/antennas/ss2000.htm
It is good for channel 7 up, which would include all KC digitals, and it's easy to mount and not bad looking. There are, of course, other choices like the excellent Channel Master 4228, which is big and ugly but works great. Have fun!

Brad

It should be noted that a public live performance of the Super Bowl is against copyright...even for a church that wouldn't charge admission. I'm just sayin'.That's not true. Sports leagues and "Big Content" are constantly pushing the boundaries of what is covered by copyright. Just because they say some use of their broadcasts contravenes copyright doesn't necessarily make it so.

If interested, you can read more about this here (and plenty of other places via Google):

http://techdirt.com/articles/20070801/011957.shtml

Hi,
I haven't thoroughly explored this forum, so I apologize if I'm repeating a question. I have a WinTV HD card in my PC, connected to a VHF/UHF antenna in my attic. The reception is inadequate, so I'm considering a mast antenna.

Even with a mast and antenna extending 12' above the roofline, it would still about 20' below the elevation of the ridge immediately to the northeast, between me and midtown. In your collective wisdom, should I proceed with the antenna installation or resign myself to cable?

Thanks,
Miles

Comcast in Olathe added NHL Network - Ch. 276 - today (Friday). Only in SD, not yet in HD.

I've watched NHL Network in HD on Dish Network... and they don't have any HD programming. 4x3 Sidebars only.

Hi,
I haven't thoroughly explored this forum, so I apologize if I'm repeating a question. I have a WinTV HD card in my PC, connected to a VHF/UHF antenna in my attic. The reception is inadequate, so I'm considering a mast antenna.

Even with a mast and antenna extending 12' above the roofline, it would still about 20' below the elevation of the ridge immediately to the northeast, between me and midtown. In your collective wisdom, should I proceed with the antenna installation or resign myself to cable?

Thanks,
Miles

First, Miles, WELCOME to the KC Area Forum!

What do you mean by "inadequate" reception? Are there some stations you can't get at all? Which ones? Does the signal strength "bounce around" a lot? Do you get a lot of pixelization on the picture? Which channel(s)? Are you able to receive the analog channels? Which ones are clear? Which ones have ghosts and/or snow?

About where is your house (nearest major streets)?

How high is the ridge to your northeast, and does it also block your line-of-sight to the east? How far away is this ridge?

My gut feeling is that you will probably be able to get most, if not all of the local digitals with the right kind of outside antenna, but we need more info. The more the better.

Brad

It's not on also 770 before NHL Central Ice yet.
It's a good channel.
More coming next week or maybe later tonight hopefully more SD Channels other then Fox Business Channel
961-News is back working.
None of the Online TV Listings for Comcast Olathe/MO showing NHLTV 276 in them including Comcast TV Planner that has THEN also on 179.

Thanks for responding! I am using Windows Media Center - the signal strength facility in it indicates the following channels are in my area (I think this list is downloaded). I've indicated the channels I get - the rest provide no signal:
KQTV
WDAF
KCTV
KCTV 2
KMOS
KMBC - good
KMCI - good
KSHB - weak
KTWU
WIBW
KTAJ
KCPT
KSNT
KCWE - weak
KTKA
KPXE
KSMO

The atmospheric conditions seem to dictate the number of channels (4 or fewer) and the quality, but KMBC is usually pretty solid, and sometimes I can get WDAF, other times not. Never the PBS stations.

For the channels I do get, there isn't any pixellation, but I'll often see a stuttering effect, where the video data stream stops (or reverses) constantly, and sometimes the audio seems to be uncoupled from the video - in other words the video will freeze but the audio will continue. It may also be true that an HD broadcast has a better signal than, um, the alternative, but I'm not sure.

I'm at 95th and Switzer (near I-69), at the bottom of a valley at somewhere around 980 feet asl, whereas the ridgetop, two blocks to the NE, is at 1060 feet. I have a two-story house, and mature trees are thick here. From a handy website I learned that the azimuth to the midtown towers is somewhere around 78 degrees.

I've done a bit more research - the azimuths range from 78 to 37 degrees, and I'm in the red/blue zone, with distances to towers 10 to 15 miles. With a 41 degree angle, am I OK with a directional antenna?

Did anyone watch "The Wire" last night on HBO? I have DTV and was watching it on HBOHD channel, is this show not broadcast in HD? I had bars on either side of my screen. Am I crazy, why wouldn't this be HD, being probably HBO's flagship series right now?

Did anyone watch "The Wire" last night on HBO? I have DTV and was watching it on HBOHD channel, is this show not broadcast in HD? I had bars on either side of my screen. Am I crazy, why wouldn't this be HD, being probably HBO's flagship series right now?


Same thing on my system on Everest Cable. I then switched to the standard HBO channel and the picture was full screen (16x9) but, obviously, not high-def. At first, I thought that it might be a Tivo setting but I checked and all was fine.

From what I understand (I researched) the show is not broadcast in HD. Because it was not originally started season 1 with HD, the producers did not want to change the format becaus eof artistic quality. Nonetheless great show, PQ was OK. I can live with it...

Thanks for responding! I am using Windows Media Center - the signal strength facility in it indicates the following channels are in my area (I think this list is downloaded). I've indicated the channels I get - the rest provide no signal:
KQTV
WDAF
KCTV
KCTV 2
KMOS
KMBC - good
KMCI - good
KSHB - weak
KTWU
WIBW
KTAJ
KCPT
KSNT
KCWE - weak
KTKA
KPXE
KSMO

The atmospheric conditions seem to dictate the number of channels (4 or fewer) and the quality, but KMBC is usually pretty solid, and sometimes I can get WDAF, other times not. Never the PBS stations.

For the channels I do get, there isn't any pixellation, but I'll often see a stuttering effect, where the video data stream stops (or reverses) constantly, and sometimes the audio seems to be uncoupled from the video - in other words the video will freeze but the audio will continue. It may also be true that an HD broadcast has a better signal than, um, the alternative, but I'm not sure.

I'm at 95th and Switzer (near I-69), at the bottom of a valley at somewhere around 980 feet asl, whereas the ridgetop, two blocks to the NE, is at 1060 feet. I have a two-story house, and mature trees are thick here. From a handy website I learned that the azimuth to the midtown towers is somewhere around 78 degrees.

Doing some quick geometry, it looks like the ridge pretty much hoses you for direct line-of-sight to the towers, at least for WDAF, and KCTV. That being said, your situation isn't that unusual. You should be able to get most, if not all, of the local stations. Many of the stations you list are from Topeka and St Joe, so don't count on getting those.

I don't think I'd try a directional antenna unless you use a rotor - you have too much of a coverage angle. If you buy something, I'd make sure you can take it back if it doesn't work. In general, the higher you can mount it, the better. Good Luck!

Brad

Awesome. Based on your info I'll try an omnidirectional mounted on a mast above the roof line. It's not like it'll be a total waste - I can limp along until OLED (http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/sonys-1-000-000-1-contrast-ratio-27-inch-oled-hdtv/) comes out (and I win the lottery).

Is anybody else experiencing bad video/audio on Fox during the championship game? It seems worse than it has in the past. I'm watching on Time Warner QAM-Clear, haven't tried OTA yet.

ABC had this problem really bad last night too. Seems to be OK on that channel tonight though.

From what I understand (I researched) the show is not broadcast in HD. Because it was not originally started season 1 with HD, the producers did not want to change the format becaus eof artistic quality. Nonetheless great show, PQ was OK. I can live with it...

Then why would it be in 4x3 aspect ratio on the HD channel and 16x9 on the standard def channel? This makes no sense. Also, the pq was clearly better on the HD channel, albeit in an inferior aspect ratio.

What is your "research"?

Is anybody else experiencing bad video/audio on Fox during the championship game? It seems worse than it has in the past. I'm watching on Time Warner QAM-Clear, haven't tried OTA yet.

ABC had this problem really bad last night too. Seems to be OK on that channel tonight though.

I noticed a few problems with the BCS championship, but Desperate Housewives was horrible last night--constant tiling and audio dropouts. Time Warner Cable.

Kansashick,

"My Research" is from a quote from a thread on this site...

"I accidently stumbled across this thread. The reason Season 4 wasn't, and season 5 won't, be in HD is because of an artistic choice by David Simon and the rest of the creators. They didn't want to make a change in the middle of a five season story and wanted the entire thing to be consistent."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=716980

This quote was also on the same page, I think it will answer you aspect ratio question...

All HD is native 16x9. But not all 16x9 presented shows are HD; some are upconverted. It's the upconversion that makes HBO's SD shows sometimes look HD. But if it's presented in 4x3, you can be sure it's not native HD (unless it's 'Hogan's Heros' on HDNet) regardless of how good it looks to you.

It does not make a lot of sense to me but I am still learning about all of this stuff...

Hope this helps.

needforspeed,
I totally agree with the audio quality on FOX, all the commercials sound like they are a million miles away. My stereo is switching back and forth between digital and analog...it drives me batty. HD channels should stay consistent in their audio content, but I guess it will take some time.

Then why would it be in 4x3 aspect ratio on the HD channel and 16x9 on the standard def channel? This makes no sense. Also, the pq was clearly better on the HD channel, albeit in an inferior aspect ratio.

What is your "research"?

To answer your general question about 4x3 HD and 16x9 SD, there are several channels on the HD side that simulcast their programming on both the SD and HD channels. On those programs that were originally filmed in SD, the program is shown on the SD channel in 16x9 format, depending on the settings within your monitor, but the same program will be shown on the HD channel in 4x3 with the black sidebars (except in the case of ESPN or NFL Network, which have channel identifiers within the sidebars).

SD Channel... 4x3 strached to 16x9.
HD Channel... 4x3 as 4x3 centered in 16x9 Image.

I noticed a few problems with the BCS championship, but Desperate Housewives was horrible last night--constant tiling and audio dropouts. Time Warner Cable.

It was the same OTA - but only for that one show, which has had problems before. The one after it was fine (Cashmire Mafia?). My wife was NOT happy, and as they say, "A happy wife is a happy life!" :p

Brad

It looks like some of you might be having the same problem that I am, at least I hope so, that would mean a problem with the signal and not the equipment.

I have Comcast and the Fox HD station is getting random audio dropouts. The drops and very quick, but very annoying. The thing is I only notice them on my HD-DVR box on the main tv and not my non-dvr HD box in another room.

Anyone have similar issues? I think I have also experienced it on KMBC HD, but to a lessor extent.

On Comcast-Olathe, NFL HD does not appear (channel 181 is there, but no picture). There is programming on the NFL SD channels (180 and 275). Is anyone having a similar problem on Comcast-Independence, Everest, Uverse, D* or E*?

Are you suscribing to HD if not then like NFL,Local Channels,TBS,ESPN,Food Network,HBO and so on HD channels will have sound in the background but no Picture but some try to have a Picture.
Know FSN Midwest just has a srceen with Color Lines.
One more day intill Fox Business Channel and maybe other SD and Channel are added hopefully.

On Comcast-Olathe, NFL HD does not appear (channel 181 is there, but no picture). There is programming on the NFL SD channels (180 and 275). Is anyone having a similar problem on Comcast-Independence, Everest, Uverse, D* or E*?

NFL HD reappeared this morning.

being new here, i was wondering if anyone in the olathe area with comcast could let me know which hd stations i will be able to pick up with an indoor antenna? thanks for any info.

Came home today with a message on my TiVo that National Geographic HD, History HD, and FSN Midwest HD have been added to the TWC KC lineup.

I don't care much about NGHD and HistHD, but FSN Midwest is interesting. Right now it's showing a test pattern.

FSN is taking the Royals TV production back this year, anyone think we might finally get the Royals in HD?

PRESS RELEASE FROM TODAY:
============================

Fox Sports Net (FSN) becomes the exclusive television home of Kansas City Royals baseball in 2008, and today the network announced its on-air and production team for 2008 Royals telecasts. Longtime Royals broadcaster Ryan Lefebvre and Royals Hall of Famer Paul Splittorff will form FSN's primary play-by-play pairing. FSN host and reporter Joel Goldberg will host the Royals Live pregame and postgame shows, while longtime Royals television producer Kevin Shank and acclaimed director Will Bealke � two national Emmy Award winners -- will produce and direct Royals telecasts.

FSN will televise 140 regular season games and two spring training contests for the most expansive Royals television schedule ever. Every regular season telecast will be surrounded by a pregame and postgame show titled Royals Live, and for the first time select Royals games will be produced in High Definition. The 2008 television schedule will be announced in the coming weeks.

Full Article: http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7655052

Woohoo! Royals in HD! Great birthday present for me. :)

From other sources I've heard to expect between 12 and 20 games in HD.

Are you suscribing to HD if not then like NFL,Local Channels,TBS,ESPN,Food Network,HBO and so on HD channels will have sound in the background but no Picture but some try to have a Picture.
Know FSN Midwest just has a srceen with Color Lines.
One more day intill Fox Business Channel and maybe other SD and Channel are added hopefully.

As of 4:00 AM, no new channels have been added to Comcast-Olathe.

From other sources I've heard to expect between 12 and 20 games in HD.

In my opinion, and, again, this is just my opinion, FSN Midwest is primarily a St. Louis-based service and, by extension, gives preference to Cardinals' games in HD. When the schedule is released, do a comparison between the Royals' schedule and the Cardinals' schedule - the Royals' HD games will be on nights that the Cardinals have a day game and the Royals have a night game (or vice-versa), where the Cardinals have an unconflicting night game (Royals in the Pacific time zone and Cardinals in the Eastern or Central time zone, or vice-versa) or where the Cardinals have the day off. FSNMW has at least two feeds in SD, but may only have one feed in HD. I am hoping that once their new communications center is finished in Houston, they will add a second HD channel and simulcast programming 24/7 on FSNMWHD, rather than color bars, college football and basketball games (still waiting for those Blues games in HD).

I sure hope D** doesn't black out any of those Royals games...

They have 2 separate HD feeds-- DirecTV set up separate channels for each (647-1 and 648-1) and I think I read somewhere that 648-1 exists solely to avoid conflicts between Royals and Cardinals games. Your local cable company will probably switch to the KC feed at pregame time for Royals games.

As of 4:00 AM, no new channels have been added to Comcast-Olathe.

As of 2:00 PM (and probably earlier) Fox Business SD was added to Comcast-Olathe on channel 106.

They have 2 separate HD feeds-- DirecTV set up separate channels for each (647-1 and 648-1) and I think I read somewhere that 648-1 exists solely to avoid conflicts between Royals and Cardinals games. Your local cable company will probably switch to the KC feed at pregame time for Royals games.

So it sounds like good news, that we on D** will have the full menu of Royals games.

I've watched NHL Network in HD on Dish Network... and they don't have any HD programming. 4x3 Sidebars only.

Actually, the live games they carry are usually in HD.

The two stations broadcast four channels, including 3½ hours of KMBC's locally produced news in HD each day as well as quick-casts for the Web site, and will soon launch a 24-hour weather channel.
http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2008/01/09/daily.7/
Business cable
The Fox Business Network will be available on Comcast Channel 104 but that's wrong because it's on 106. in the Kansas City area starting today. The financial news channel, launched Oct. 15, also is on Time Warner Channel 232.
It was their when I checked my TV this Morning at 6am. No other SD or HD channels yet.
AT&T U-Verse is available on 138th Street in the Subdivisions here I think because Iv'e seen AT&T reps at my Wal-mart in Olathe.

Does anybody know if AT&T U-Verse is available around 135th & Nall in Leawood/Overland Park?

Does anybody know if AT&T U-Verse is available around 135th & Nall in Leawood/Overland Park?

I don't think anyone knows. Back in September, I was told UVerse would be available for the areas east of Blackbob between 119th and 135th in Olathe during the first week of October by an AT&T rep. It hasn't arrived yet.

I finally figured out what our future address will be down there, and the website says no. I REALLY want to get away from TWC. I don't think Everest is down there yet either....

Curious if anyone can give me a recommendation. My 15 month (ridiculous) Time Warner Contract finally came up, and they were "kind" enough to call and offer me another 15 month commitment. I declined, and they informed me that my bill would go up about 30-40 bucks now that my Bundle would be broken up into pieces. See ya!

According to UVerse's website, it is now available at my location (87th & Metcalf-ish). It is now between UVerse or Dish, and 'm not sure which way to go with it.

I get my phone, cable, and internet through Time Warner right now. Bundling is nice, but not for the concessions I have to make to Time Warner (no NFL Network, only 1 DVR, only 1 room with Digital, etc.) at the price I'm paying. It'll suck breaking up the bundle, but does anyone have any advice on what way I should go?

I should add that I'm HD-Ready, if that adds into the decision. I'm leaning towards Dish right now for their 6 month free HD, and 2 Room DVR system (which is all I need). I'd likely have to either keep my internet with TWC (at $50) and decide what I wanna do for phone (either ditch the landline, or pay the extra 20 bucks to bundle it with TWC). Thoughts?

U-Verse is a good service, sans the HD side of things. I had U-Verse back when they launched in Lenexa and the compression on the national HD channels was pretty bad, but every other channel was awesome. I loved the DVR, where you could control it over the internet, and I'm not sure if they have it working yet, but the DVR was supposed to Network across your house so you could watch recorded content on any tv in your house. (They were still working on it when I had U-Verse)

Also, every 'box' that you get with U-Verse is HD-Ready for future expansion of HDTV sets. U-Verse also has DSL along with it, and you don't have to have an active land line to get U-Verse DSL/Video.

My parents have had Dish Network since 1997 and I think it is a wonderful service. Their startup prices can sometimes be high, but they usually credit you for 12 months on your bill or something. You don't get Internet with Dish Network at the moment though with any standard 'package' deal. My brother had DirecTV HD and they are in a smiliar boat with startup costs, but the HD picture on both services (Dish Network and DirecTV) for the most part look great.

I would suggest visiting the AT&T U-Verse Kiosk at Oak Park Mall to just 'play' with the service and see how you like it.

I still can only get KSMO on 47.62. Did they give up on trying to fix this? It's been half a year now.

Another year has gone by and this still hasn't changed.

Curious if anyone can give me a recommendation. My 15 month (ridiculous) Time Warner Contract finally came up, and they were "kind" enough to call and offer me another 15 month commitment. I declined, and they informed me that my bill would go up about 30-40 bucks now that my Bundle would be broken up into pieces. See ya!

According to UVerse's website, it is now available at my location (87th & Metcalf-ish). It is now between UVerse or Dish, and 'm not sure which way to go with it.

I get my phone, cable, and internet through Time Warner right now. Bundling is nice, but not for the concessions I have to make to Time Warner (no NFL Network, only 1 DVR, only 1 room with Digital, etc.) at the price I'm paying. It'll suck breaking up the bundle, but does anyone have any advice on what way I should go?

I should add that I'm HD-Ready, if that adds into the decision. I'm leaning towards Dish right now for their 6 month free HD, and 2 Room DVR system (which is all I need). I'd likely have to either keep my internet with TWC (at $50) and decide what I wanna do for phone (either ditch the landline, or pay the extra 20 bucks to bundle it with TWC). Thoughts?

I just went through the same deal. I kept RR through tw, and went with DTV. I think they are head and shoulders above Dish for HD. You do pay for the dvr boxes though...

What makes you say they are superior to Dish for HD? I pretty much dismissed them due to essentially the same programming at a higher price.

Kansashick,

All HD is native 16x9. But not all 16x9 presented shows are HD; some are upconverted.

*snip*

But if it's presented in 4x3, you can be sure it's not native HD (unless it's 'Hogan's Heros' on HDNet) regardless of how good it looks to you.

Ah, but that's not even entirely true. During this past holiday season ABC did show a couple of animated Christmas classics in 4x3 HD. They had enough lines vertically to be HD but still only remained the original 4x3 aspect ratio.

I live at 119th and Blackbob and U-verse has been available at that location for several months now. So you should be able to get it if you are around that area.

What makes you say they are superior to Dish for HD? I pretty much dismissed them due to essentially the same programming at a higher price.

I am sorry I should have noted that my reasoning being D** offers the NFL Ticket in HD, and Nascar Hot Pass, those two things to me were what made it so much better. I was suprised to see that Dish did offer nearly the same amount of channels in HD that D** does. Once again it is preference, I hate TW, but I loved the menu, as I cannot stand the menu for D**. It is al what you get used to I guess.

Comong Soon to Comcast nationally Qubo and I-Life so we might be getting them.

I agree with you hendooman. I love the guide/DVR/look and fell of TWC. Its the one thing that kept me not making a change this whole time. But enough is enough, I need my damn NFL network to get me through the offseason.

I love the idea of Sunday Ticket, but honestly it would just be a bad temptation for me to even have around. I work on Sundays, so I'd be paying for something I would rarely use -- but I know I would still buy it :)

I decided to go with Dish. Installation comes in exactly one week. I'll definitely check in with my thoughts for those of you considering TWC v Dish

I live at 119th and Blackbob and U-verse has been available at that location for several months now. So you should be able to get it if you are around that area.

I am, and I cannot get Uverse. I used the lookup feature at the Uverse website and it always says I am unable to get Uverse. There are homes in my subdivision that have Uverse, however, these are closer to Blackbob, and (using Google Earth to get accurate street addresses) there are homes right next door to the house with Uverse that are unable to get Uverse. The rep at the AT&T store on 135th and Blackbob and the Uverse CSR both said that if your address shows up as Uverse unavailable, then Uverse is unavailable.

When I was using their lookup feature to see if I could get UVerse, it first told me no. I slightly modified my address (took the "St." out actually) and it found my address, confirmed it ("is this the address you want to check?") and found that I can in fact get UVerse.

So I would say make sure you try a few permutations of your address, and look for that confirmation screen if you aren't getting it already. Seems very odd that right next door to someone with Uverse, you couldn't get Uverse.

Is it true that with Uverse you can only get one HD stream at a time? In other words, you can't watch one while recording another?

Just FYI, with Dish you can record THREE HD's at a time, or watch one live while recording two others. The PQ on Uverse is probably a little better, though.

Also FYI, E* will be adding more HD later this year after some (delayed) satellite launches. (Pretty much the same promise that D* made leading up to the launch of many new HD channels at the end of '07.)

Brad

Is it true that with Uverse you can only get one HD stream at a time? In other words, you can't watch one while recording another?

Yes. This was a deal breaker for me. I currently have 2 HDTV's so I'd want at least 3 HD streams. I'll reconsider U-verse when they get the ability to have multiple HD streams.

When I was using their lookup feature to see if I could get UVerse, it first told me no. I slightly modified my address (took the "St." out actually) and it found my address, confirmed it ("is this the address you want to check?") and found that I can in fact get UVerse.

So I would say make sure you try a few permutations of your address, and look for that confirmation screen if you aren't getting it already. Seems very odd that right next door to someone with Uverse, you couldn't get Uverse.

Actually, I used my phone number, since I have an AT&T landline.

Actually I have had both Dish and Direct, Dish Network is far and above better for their service and especially the 620 DVR, it can't be touched by anyone. The 6 months free is a deal maker for sure, I have never had an HD skip or blackout for almost 4 months now.

Good news for Royals fans.

Fox Sports Net expands presence in Kansas City

Published: January 17, 2008aa


Fox Sports Net announced Wednesday it is launching FSN Kansas City, a new regional sports network headed by FSN Midwest General Manager Jack Donovan.


To continue reading, go to: http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2008/01/14/daily58.html?b=1200546000^1578593&surround=etf

What happens to Metro Sports then? Will stay because only available on Comcast and TWCKC at the moment.
AT&T U-Verse and S. Dish customers here get to keep FSN Midwest that should really be named FSN St. Louis and also MO because they have the Sports Regional Networks of FSN. So I hope the Comcast/EverestKC/TWCKC add them to.
What if Comcast decides here to rename FSN to Comcast Sports Olathe/MO.
We get Royals Live and maybe KC Live.
Comcast fans are out of luck today because no ESPNU and ESPN not letting Metro Sports show the tape version of it. Also it won't be on ESPN Game Plan. Some how KMBC,FSN Kansas City or another local network should be allowed to carry the Game Live. Aslo ESPN shouldn't put a undefeated teams Game on one of it's Network's that every one doesn't get yet.

What happens to Metro Sports then?
Do we to keep FSN Midwest for St. Louis Sports,MO Valley Conference and so on?

If we're lucky, it'll go down in flames. MS is a poor excuse for a local sports channel. At least with FSN, it'll have a nationwide network for support. Or, maybe, FSN will absorb MS - maybe then we'll get Chiefs pre-season games in HD.

Here is the article from FSN.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7687852

Looks like it will mostly be Royals and then Mizzou stuff. I think I remember when Fox Sport Midwest was mostly Kansas City and was based here, but they later realized St. Louis was a bigger sports market and so they crossed over the other side of the state. I have a feeling it was about the time the Rams came to St. Louis. Anyways, glad to see we are getting our own FSN channel so they can really focus on our local teams, and hopefully we will be getting either an NHL or NBA team for them to cover as well. GOOO KC!!!!

As a now subscriber of Dish Network, I thought I would mention my thoughts on my conversion from Time Warner.

I love it! The DVR interface on Dish (722 HD DVR) is actually better than the old TWC Interface (Scientific Atlanta 8300HD, I believe). My main concern about switching over was that I loved the setup and ease of use of TWC's DVR and Guide. The Dish one surpasses it, and I couldn't be happier. The guide is easily navigatable, sortable, and customizable. The DVR is equally impressive with its features (letting you know WHY it didn't record something on your list) and ease of use.

Not to mention the fact that I'm actually paying less, and I now get NFL Network, and get all of my digital channels in both rooms, as well as the two-room DVR, which of course allows me to start a program in the living room, and finish it in bed in my bedroom. Much better than having digital cable in my living room, analog cable in the bedroom, and no DVR (or at best a seperate DVR) with TWC.

And it may just be my internal hype talking, but I really feel that the SD picture is better on Dish than it was on Time Warner. HD is just as awesome as its always been, only with a greater selection of channels.

Hope my little min-review can help anyone trying to make the decision. I highly advocate switching from TWC to Dish if you have that option and opportunity.

Comcast/Everestkc gives you some extra SD channels hooked in on Digital Section if just get the Box so TWCKC should to. That Link doesn't show that.

mgsports...

Is this what you were asking for?
http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?menu=Programming

I was curious if anyone has used a CableCard through Everest and more specifically with an Sony DHG-HDD250? I had one hooked up this weekend and even had them come to my house today to take a look but the only other channels I got besides the locals was ESPN 1-2.

I have read in other threads that others have gotten the CableCard working with Comcast but I wasn't sure if the provider made any difference. It's just kind of frustrating because I am not about to pay $12 more a month for 2 channels I don't already get via QAM or OTA.

I think 41 is teasing us observant HD viewers. I just saw KSHB 41 promo for NBC Action News Today with their morning crew in HD. Well mainly the graphics filled the 16x9 screen. It was only a few weeks ago they added the "KSHB-DT Kansas City" pillars on the left and right, and during this promo those pillar bars disappeared. I wonder if they are trying to discretely move their newscast to HD. I thought I remember reading somewhere that KSHB has plans to go HD sometime this summer. I think I remember the article came out about the same time as when Channel 9 had just gone HD with their newscast. Hopefully KSHB is working on a new set.

I think 41 is teasing us observant HD viewers. I just saw KSHB 41 promo for NBC Action News Today with their morning crew in HD. Well mainly the graphics filled the 16x9 screen. It was only a few weeks ago they added the "KSHB-DT Kansas City" pillars on the left and right, and during this promo those pillar bars disappeared. I wonder if they are trying to discretely move their newscast to HD. I thought I remember reading somewhere that KSHB has plans to go HD sometime this summer. I think I remember the article came out about the same time as when Channel 9 had just gone HD with their newscast. Hopefully KSHB is working on a new set.

Hopefully soon KSHB-DT news will be HD. Thanks for the pointing out the KSHB observation bongohawk. :)

Weird. I just noticed the side bars on KSHD tonight as well :)

I was curious if anyone has used a CableCard through Everest and more specifically with an Sony DHG-HDD250? I had one hooked up this weekend and even had them come to my house today to take a look but the only other channels I got besides the locals was ESPN 1-2.

I have read in other threads that others have gotten the CableCard working with Comcast but I wasn't sure if the provider made any difference. It's just kind of frustrating because I am not about to pay $12 more a month for 2 channels I don't already get via QAM or OTA.

I have 2 CableCards set in my Tivo HD with Everest. Setup was really simple, and I did it myself. At first, I had a lot of pixelation, but a few resets, and that went away. All my channels are there and work fine. I also got them to reduce the fee to $1.75 each since that is what TWC charges.

I have 2 CableCards set in my Tivo HD with Everest. Setup was really simple, and I did it myself. At first, I had a lot of pixelation, but a few resets, and that went away. All my channels are there and work fine. I also got them to reduce the fee to $1.75 each since that is what TWC charges.


I didn't even think to ask about lowering the price. If decided to attempt that again I will keep that in mind. Now without a cable card I am facing a whole new problem. All my unencrypted HD channels are coming through in the 80s and 100-117. Everything was working fine until I tried a cablecard. Ugh. :(

I think 41 is teasing us observant HD viewers.....
From what I understand, they're already shooting ENG footage on JVC HD camcorders and their studio cameras are HD cameras (I think I saw an "HD" logo on the side of a studio camera lens on a studio-wide shot a while back). Obviously Jeopardy! and Wheel are being recorded and played back in HD -- I heard somewhere it's a HDD-based server.

It sounds to me like they're slowly upgrading their equipment and infrastructure and the HD switchover could happen sometime in the next year. But I really don't *know* anything else.

247 KMBC Weather Channel on Comcast and you would think they would have put on 248 before 249 KSHB Weather Plus.
Maybe KSHB is getting the RTN for KC.
You were probley hoping for ABC News Now or a local 24/7 News channel or RTN Affliate that probley KHSB is going to own because the Scripps Network is one of the company to has a partnership with RTN.

From what I understand, they're already shooting ENG footage on JVC HD camcorders and their studio cameras are HD cameras (I think I saw an "HD" logo on the side of a studio camera lens on a studio-wide shot a while back). Obviously Jeopardy! and Wheel are being recorded and played back in HD -- I heard somewhere it's a HDD-based server.

It sounds to me like they're slowly upgrading their equipment and infrastructure and the HD switchover could happen sometime in the next year. But I really don't *know* anything else.

It would have been nice to see Meredith Hoenes in HD (on Kansas City Live). Now, we'll have to settle for small snippets after the upconversion.

I saw the Action New Today HD promo. Hopefully KSHB does HD better than 9's lame live studio shot only HD.

247 KMBC Weather Channel on Comcast and you would think they would have put on 248 before 249 KSHB Weather Plus.
Maybe KSHB is getting the RTN for KC.

Dangit, you beat me to it. I just happended to tune to 09-02 DT and noticed that Channel 9 finally has their First Alert 24 hour accuweather channel up and running. So if you can get OTA or it looks like have Comcast you can see it. Not all that exciting but another weather sub channel can be a good thing, I guess. So far I prefer 41's Action Weather channel.

Amy Hawley in HD! now that is something to look forward to...

Dangit, you beat me to it. I just happended to tune to 09-02 DT and noticed that Channel 9 finally has their First Alert 24 hour accuweather channel up and running. So if you can get OTA or it looks like have Comcast you can see it. Not all that exciting but another weather sub channel can be a good thing, I guess. So far I prefer 41's Action Weather channel.

I'm sorry to see the 24/7 test pattern go! Seriously, this would be a "good" use for a subchannel (could even be HD since it would be a static image). The patterns could rotate every couple of minutes, kind of like HDNet does (or used to do) once a week. I used to have HDNet's recorded on my old DVR, but eventually had to delete it because I was out of disc space. (The good old days :rolleyes:).

Brad

The KMBC-DT Weather Channel is on Time Warner Cable.

I have it on QAM-Clear channel 112.11 (KMBC HD is 112.12)

Do you people believe we have 4 Local Weather Channels Metro Weather,Comcast Weatherscan,KMBC First View,KSHB Weather Plus,one National Weather Channel and 2 Local Sports Channels Metro Sports and FSN KC but not a single 24/7 Local News channel back here?
This and that in TV ... KMBC added a digital subchannel devoted to weather. KSHB has done this for quite a while. Speaking of 41, KSHB recently debuted its new weekend morning show, not long after the new midday show debuted. All four major newsrooms now air local news when I'm asleep on Saturday and Sunday morning. Could the eventual KMBC morning show on KCWE look internally for anchors? There's talk of moving some nightside/weekend talent to complement Ketz and Pittman. Look for more internet streaming of newscasts from WDAF-TV this year.

I am using Time Warner Cable with a Scientific Atlanta 8300HDC box and having a problem with the Guide. I am viewing the Guide (with the screen in the top right corner) and when I exit the Guide, the channel menu disappears; however, the screen stays in the top right corner of the screen.

Has anyone seen this before? I have my Sony 46W3000 connected to my cable box via HDMI.

So is tonights State of the Union the first news broadcast for CBS in HD?

890-Elections On Demand Channel got a Message about the new channel this morning on my TV.

I was curious if anyone has used a CableCard through Everest and more specifically with an Sony DHG-HDD250? I had one hooked up this weekend and even had them come to my house today to take a look but the only other channels I got besides the locals was ESPN 1-2.

I have read in other threads that others have gotten the CableCard working with Comcast but I wasn't sure if the provider made any difference. It's just kind of frustrating because I am not about to pay $12 more a month for 2 channels I don't already get via QAM or OTA.

In the past couple of weeks, Everest has started to broadcast ESPN and EPSN2 in clear QAM, so it's likely that you weren't getting any encrypted channels with the CableCard.

In case anyone is interested, here is the current list of Everest clear QAM channels as of 1/29/07:

81-3: KCTVDT
83-5: WMAQDT
84-2: ESPN2HD
85-3: KCWEDT
100-2: WDAFDT
108-1: ESPNHD
110-3: KSHBDT
110-4: KSHBDT2
110-5: KMBCDT2
110-6: KMBCDT
119-300: TNTHD
111-2: KCPTDT
111-4: KCPTDT2
111-7: KCPTDT3
111-8: KCPTDT4
117-11: EWTN
125-1 through 56 URGE digital music

There's a few other channels, but it looks like they are just running pay per view ads.

Does anyone have a list of the Time Warner clear QAM channels?

Thanks,
Brian.

In the past couple of weeks, Everest has started
83-5: WMAQDT

WMAQ?

TIME WARNER QAM-Clear (Johnson County)
============================

77-6 - KCTV-DT
83-6 - KCWE-DT
93-12 - WDAF-DT
94-10 - ON DEMAND PREVIEWS
100-1 - DISNEY EAST
100-11 - KSHB WX PLUS
100-12 - KSHB DT
108-12 - KSMO-DT
111-6 - DISNEY WEST
112-11 - KMBC WX
112-12 - KMBC-DT
113-9 - KCPT (KIDS?)
113-10 - KCPT CREATE
113-11 - KCPT PBS HD
113-12 - KCPT ANALOG
115-11 - ESPN-U

WMAQ?

It's some kind of sports channel. It's a static screen that says League Pass Stats Central with a rotating list of stats for NBA players and teams. It showed up when the ESPN channels did, so I expect it will go away when they do.

Any word on when/if TWC will give us Fox Sports Midwest-HD back? I'm hoping I'm not the only that no longer has this channel. I think it was 1496.

Skid

As of today, I can no longer receive KCWE-DT 29.1 (31).
My set top box now behaves just like it does when I try to watch KMBC-DT 7.1 - 7.2. Black screen, no audio, set top box loses signal, repeat, repeat, repeat.
I cleared all channels and tried an automatic scan. The automatic scan gets stuck on 7.1.
I cleared all the channels again and had to manually add all the other channels except 7.1, 7.2, and 29.1.
So now the PSIP has been changed on 29.1 and my set top box cannot see it. Just in time for Smallville.....
I can still receive these two using my computer's HD video card, so it is not an antenna problem.
I guess I will have to buy another set top box if I want to watch HD on my home theater projection unit.
So much for standards....

Any word on when/if TWC will give us Fox Sports Midwest-HD back? I'm hoping I'm not the only that no longer has this channel. I think it was 1496.

Skid

I hadn't noticed, but I no longer have it either. Not that there was much on it.

does anyone here use cable cards with TWC? I have twc but refuse to get their box and I want a DVR so i purchased a HD tivo and have them coming to install cable cards(3) in the next few days and wanted to know how it was using them for you.

does anyone here use cable cards with TWC? I have twc but refuse to get their box and I want a DVR so i purchased a HD tivo and have them coming to install cable cards(3) in the next few days and wanted to know how it was using them for you.

I have a Series 3 HD Tivo with TWC and you might be in for a bumpy ride :). It took 4 installs for both of the cable cards to work. However if you have a TIVO HD (non series 3) you may be okay since they can use the M card instead of 2 separate cards. Basically they had some bad cards and they never paired correctly.

My problem was that on one of the tuners we could get all of the channels and the other tuner only received the Major Networks and Analog channels. Pain in the butt when it came to recording, you just hoped the right tuner was used for the digital channels.

However, after we finally got everything sorted out, I have not even had to manually reboot my Tivo in about 3 months!

It's now called FSN KC.
The Red Light Message this Morning was KMBC new Weather Channel and they should have had that Message last Thursday when it was added.
No SD Channels like Bloomberg News 103,151 Reelztv,SHOPNBC,IFC,FITTV,Fuse,Fuel,Fox Movie Channel and so on yet.
USA HD?
Team and Game HD?
Fox Buisness Channel HD?
NHL Network on 770 and in HD?
Any other channel that Comcast has a contract with for HD or SD.

It's now called FSN KC.
The Red Light Message this Morning was KMBC new Weather Channel and they should have had that Message last Thursday when it was added.
No new HD Channels in awhile and also SD Channels like Bloomberg News 103,151 Reelztv,SHOPNBC,IFC,FITTV,Fuse,Fuel,Fox Movie Channel and so on.
WMAQ is a local channel out of Chicago so why EverestKC people be getting it.


It's probably not really WMAQ. That's just what HDHomerun came up with when it scanned.

Comcast Olathe has new HD channels:
191 -Discovery HD
192 - TLC HD
212 - History Channel HD
213 - CNN HD
237 - KSMO HD

Hey Everest customers... any of you getting any programming yet on channel 17?

Comcast Olathe has new HD channels:
191 -Discovery HD
192 - TLC HD
212 - History Channel HD
213 - CNN HD
237 - KSMO HD

Now, if Comcast will add SpeedHD before Speedweeks in Daytona starts next week (or, specifically, before the Bud Shootout next Saturday night)....

...and, of course, SciFiHD, FXHD, CartoonNetworkHD, etc....

Did anyone else have a crappy CW HD broadcast last night (Jan 30) during Smallville? I thought it was just my recording, but it looked like they kept switching back to 480P, so I was wondering if it was a CW issue.

My feed is from Everest.

Shouldn't KCWE 29 DT be broadcasting WWE in HD? It is on right now and they are showing it in SD. Did someone forget to throw the switch?

Now that dish has the dishHD package for just $29.99 + $5 local, I am tempted. I am getting OTA HD now. Does the dish local HD look good or should I stick with OTA and save the $5/month. Also, for those that don't know about it, watching just HD got a lot cheaper. The Dish HD package is $29.99/month (no other programming needed).

Did anyone else have a crappy CW HD broadcast last night (Jan 30) during Smallville? I thought it was just my recording, but it looked like they kept switching back to 480P, so I was wondering if it was a CW issue.

My feed is from Everest.
I received the CW via OTA using my video card in my PC. The station was definitely experiencing technical difficulties. I switched to the analog broadcast. See my post #6449 for my difficulties with KCWE-DT using my Samsung set top box.

The locals look perfect, with the exception of NBC. I forget the specific call letters of our local affiliate, but I've bitched about it before on here. Basically it just seems like a weak feed, and was especially noticable during Sunday Night Football this past year. I had TWC for a good portion of the season, and it was annoying and "pixel"ly. Once I switched to Dish, it was far less likely to get pixelated, but still obviously not a good signal, and occasionally jumpy/******.

All the other locals look great. Oh, and I should mention that apparently Dish's locals don't include the local CW.

Dish and DirecTV Locals for Kansas City only include ABC-HD, NBC-HD, CBS-HD & FOX-HD. I think DirecTV will be adding PBS-HD soon. This is pretty standard for the dish companies right now.

Dish and DirecTV Locals for Kansas City only include ABC-HD, NBC-HD, CBS-HD & FOX-HD. I think DirecTV will be adding PBS-HD soon. This is pretty standard for the dish companies right now.

Since the dish receiver has an OTA tuner, will I be able to get the guide data for the locals through OTA for PBS-HD, CW, etc even though dish does not carry them.

With Dish Network you will get program guide data for any over the air station you can pick up in the channel scan. Even if you get a channel from another market (Topeka or Columbia) you will get program guide data from those channels.

Oh really, I didn't know this. So should I hook up my Antenna to my Dish Box rather than my TV?

you have to subscribe to your locals (analog) via Dish to get programming guide data for local HD channels through the antenna connected to your Dish Network box.

KMBC Analog and KMBC-DT have two completely seperate feeds of College Basketball pre-game today.... rather interesting.

you have to subscribe to your locals (analog) via Dish to get programming guide data for local HD channels through the antenna connected to your Dish Network box.

Actually, there is no separate analog locals for Dish. Dish carries the local HD OTA signals (probably as well as analog) for $5.00 per month. In addition to this, they also have OTA tuner for HD in their HD receivers

More info at www.dbstalk.com but I know your guide data for locals won't show up unless you subscribe to locals via Dish Network. If HD locals are available in your market and you have the right equipment you'll get your HD locals along with your analog locals for the same price.

Why isn't WDAF not doing the pregame in HD? What is their phone number?

Why isn't WDAF not doing the pregame in HD? What is their phone number?

Good question since the NY feed on DTV is in HD.

Yup, they must be getting calls. They said their engineers are looking into the problem.

Looks like they got it fixed

I wish our local affiliates had the ability to do their scrolls on the HD channels without having to switch to SD mode. Both WDAF and KCTV were doing the Amber Alert this afternoon and had to switch to SD mode and back again. I don't know if KSHB or KMBC had to switch or not.

The Comcast Red Light Message yesterday didn't include MYKSMOTV HD only the other ones that were added.
Maybe the trend will continue with more channels be added every week.

I wish our local affiliates had the ability to do their scrolls on the HD channels without having to switch to SD mode. Both WDAF and KCTV were doing the Amber Alert this afternoon and had to switch to SD mode and back again. I don't know if KSHB or KMBC had to switch or not.

I think KSHB and KMBC have the ability to scroll messages in HD.

Hey Everest customers... any of you getting any programming yet on channel 17?

Nothing as of Sunday the 3rd. What should we be expecting?

Why isn't WDAF not doing the pregame in HD? What is their phone number?

In case you need to contact them:

WDAF - (816) 753-4567 (www.myfoxkc.com)
KCTV - (913) 677-7200/(913) 677-7228 (www.kctv5.com)
KMBC - (816) 221-9999 (www.thekansascitychannel.com)
KSHB - (816) 753-4141 (www.nbcactionnews.com)

After many long hours with TWC customer service, they have concluded that I lost channel 1496 because my box has not yet been updated to the new version of Navigator. Is anyone else having this same problem?

After many long hours with TWC customer service, they have concluded that I lost channel 1496 because my box has not yet been updated to the new version of Navigator. Is anyone else having this same problem?

I no longer have FSN HD, and am still with Passport.

Nothing as of Sunday the 3rd. What should we be expecting?

Everest is adding the JCCC educational channel... they're still working on the uplink but wasn't sure how far they got.

KMCI might becoming the RTN Affliate channel for KC. No Speed Channel in HD or any other channels added today first Thursday in a while.

I don't know, but KSMO-DT doesn't even have any HD programming... that would be like adding KMCI-DT even thought they show no HD programming.

Just saw on Speed that Speed HD is supposed to go live tomorrow (Thursday, 02/07). Let's see if Comcast will actually put a new HD channel on it's debut day...LOL...

I have a friend who recently got a SA8300HDC DVR from TWC. He'd like to add an external hard drive to get more capacity. First of all, is this supported with the software TWC is using locally? If so, could someone give a quick summary of which drives are supported and which ones have been the most successful?

Thanks from a dumb E* subscriber! :p

Brad

I have a friend who recently got a SA8300HDC DVR from TWC. He'd like to add an external hard drive to get more capacity. First of all, is this supported with the software TWC is using locally? If so, could someone give a quick summary of which drives are supported and which ones have been the most successful?

Thanks from a dumb E* subscriber! :p

Brad

Brad,
I don't that much about using an external hard drive. However I keep somewhat up-to-date with the thread below. If there is a place to ask, I *think* it would be there. Hopefully you'll get some good responses from this thread too. There has to be at least a few people with that setup.

http://http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=723830&page=112

Hope this helps.

Skid

question: I live in OP and last night tried watching the Wildcats bball game on fox sports midwest on DTV...not on in my area it tells me. OK after cussing a little I switched to my TWC feed and it was on there. No HD but I got to watch the game. When the Royals go to FSMW this season are the games going to be blacked out on DTV?

Anybody have any insight on this?

The K-State games are on a Regional Alternate Channel on DirecTV. The games can only be shown in the State of Kansas and KC Metro and that is why DirecTV has to put it on an Alternate channel. The www.kstatesports.com website usually lists what DirecTV channel the game will be on.

2-7-2008 OTA broadcast of Smallville on KCWE-DT
The audio is out of sync. The sound is occuring just before the actors mouths move.

The K-State games are on a Regional Alternate Channel on DirecTV. The games can only be shown in the State of Kansas and KC Metro and that is why DirecTV has to put it on an Alternate channel. The www.kstatesports.com website usually lists what DirecTV channel the game will be on.

Still doesnt make any sense to me...I am in Kansas, and that website showed it was on FSMW. I did not find it on an alternate channel on DTV. Did you?

2-7-2008 OTA broadcast of Smallville on KCWE-DT
The audio is out of sync. The sound is occuring just before the actors mouths move.
YES. its pissing me off. finally some new episodes and they are messed up. they had this same problem last week during smallville including video problems. about 40min into it they switched the to the SD feed which was working fine. supernatural was also in SD last week instead of HD. you would think KCWE would've fixed it or at least kept the SD feed running until they get the HD one working. i cant watch my recording as is. its way too annoying. its not just OTA, timewarner is messed up too.

Still doesnt make any sense to me...I am in Kansas, and that website showed it was on FSMW. I did not find it on an alternate channel on DTV. Did you?

The DirecTV and Dish Network feed of "Fox Sports Net Midwest" is the St. Louis feed. You need the Fox Sports Net Midwest - Kansas City" feed, which is not a full time station. This is changing with Fox launching FSN Kansas City this spring with the start of the Royals.

The Royals games, as well as K-State games have always been on a Regional Sports Network Alternate... and that channel can change each week as well. The cable companies receive a different feed of FSN Midwest based on their geographic location, but the Satellite companies only get 1 national feed, and local feeds have to be placed on alternate channels.

The K-State vs. Nebraska game was on DirecTV channel 671.
http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3084&SPID=213&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1383068

Hendoo- I feel your pain. I was not home Wed. night (Ash Wednesday services) and so I had to figure out beforehand what channel the game was going to be on to set a TiVo recording.. if I picked the wrong feed, I would have gotten 2 hrs of [Programming not available in your area]. This game was not part of the Big 12 package (that's the ESPN+ broadcasts); FSMW produces games for Nebraska, Missouri, and K-State to be shown only in their respective states (per Big XII rules). The silly thing is, I think FSMW gave the same footage to both the Nebraska and K-State crews, so the only difference between the 2 feeds was the announcers and the ever-important commercials. (And Nebraska's feed probably would have seemed like old times for K-State... Greg Sharpe does their TV announcing now.)

BTW, the game was not broadcast in HD, so you didn't miss anything there. FSMW doesn't produce ANY Big 12 games in HD. The only place you can see Big 12 hoops in HD is on ABC, CBS, or ESPN.

Thank you both, I think I am understanding this a little better now.
I would suspect that FSN KC will be on DTV and that will solve all problems with Royals...man that makes me happy.

I have not been super excited about DTV since I enrolled in it 3 months ago...but now I am a little less on edge knowing that game was on, it was just user error.

Going from Cable to Satellite has a learning curve... hang in there, you'll get it.

Fox Sports Net Midwest HD Schedule from Time Warner Cable
http://www.timewarnercable.com/KansasCity/Programming/FSNMidwestHDSchedule.html

I recently had to set up my Sony DHG-HDD250 from scratch and reorder the channels. A lot of the channels that I couldn't find before were now in the channel list.

I am only including digital channels

FOX WDAF-DT 4.1
CBS KCTVDT 5.1
ABC KMBC-DT 9.1
PBS KCPTD 19.1
PBS KCPTHD 19.2
PBS KCPTC 19.3
PBS KCPTD4 19.4
CW KCWE-DT 29.1
IND KMCI-DT 38.1
NBC KSHB-DT 41.1
W+ KSHBW 41.2 (Weather+)
ION KPXEDT 50.1
MNT KSMO-DT 62.1


edit: found 50.1

Don't forget KTAJ-DT on RF 21... nothing like 6 channels of the Church Channel.

KMBC-DT has the AccuWeather Channel on 9.2

Don't forget KTAJ-DT on RF 21... nothing like 6 channels of the Church Channel.

KMBC-DT has the AccuWeather Channel on 9.2

Yeah, KTAJ -DT comes up if I use the channel up/down button on the remote, and actually the first one comes up in the channel list.

I can't find anything on the channel list for 9.2 though, at least not yet. It will probably be added eventually.

It sure is nice to have complete and accurate tv listings for all the channels. Hopefully my box won't reset itself again.
It found an "unrecoverable error" on the hard drive and shut down hard drive access, so I will have to send it to Sony for service.

I’m sure this question has been asked before ( this thread is huge) but does anyone see any beneficial difference between using HDMI or component? i'm using HDMI as of now, but there are some stations that seem washed out...thanks in advance. :D

I’m sure this question has been asked before ( this thread is huge) but does anyone see any beneficial difference between using HDMI or component? i'm using HDMI as of now, but there are some stations that seem washed out...thanks in advance. :D

Based on my experience the difference was minimal. I once did a screen comparison and it seemed like the HDMI connection was a little better but not much. The main difference between the 2 is HDMI is a digital connection that can transfer audio, and Component is analog connection.

IMHO, don't buy a Monster HDMI cable for $100 where you can get an HDMI cable from $1 - $30 online or at a computer store. Since the cable is digital, it will either work or not.