Hey all, I've used this forum as a reference for HD info in both Columbia and KC, and now I need your help if possible.

Just purchased a 32" Toshiba. Bought an outdoor antenna and everything because the indoor wasn't cutting it. We have the outdoor antenna pointed to the south. (we live north of the river, but not that far north)

(this is obviously in Kansas City)

We're only picking up 9-1 and 9-2. Nothing else digitally. Nothing. Everything says low signal strength. We've had it outside on the south deck and now outside on the southwest porch. There are trees in the area, but I don't see why that would be much of an issue. (we're not in the middle of the woods)

Is it me? That is completely possible. All I've done is run the channel program, and it's the only channels that it picks up.

Thanks

Are you sure your Antenna does both UHF and VHF? 9-1 and 9-2 are the only DT channel that does VHF. It sort of sounds like your antenna is only VHF.

Also, could your tv tuner be set to cable instead of OTA. This would allow reception of VHF but not UHF channels.

If it's set to ATSC (and thus getting 9-1 and 9-2), it's not set to "cable," and should see all the ATSC channels.

What does your antenna look like, Bronto? Are you sure that it's a VHF/UHF combo antenna? It's possible that it's too directional, and if you're pointing due south, depending on where you are, that it can't see the proper towers. Try rotating it a little bit east or west and see what happens. You should at least be getting channel 29 (31 digital), 'cause it's on the same tower as 9, assuming your antenna is VHF/UHF. :confused:

Brad

I got a flyer in the mail today announcing AT&T U-Verse is now available at 135th & Nall Ave. in Leawood. This would include the Weston Point Apartments as well as AMLI at Wynnewood Farms.

I got a flyer in the mail today announcing AT&T U-Verse is now available at 135th & Nall Ave. in Leawood. This would include the Weston Point Apartments as well as AMLI at Wynnewood Farms.

I live near 140th and Nall and there is a Ditchwitch in my back yard installing the new AT&T lines. Hopefully this will be the last of the new lines for a while, we had Everest in the backyard last year!

Even with these two, I still have TWC.

Mike

I hate that Everest is in the neighborhood, but not available to us in the Weston Point Apts. (Time Warner Only) so I have Dish Network and AT&T DSL. I had TWC but I really don't like them.

It's is probley in HD but intill the Cable Systems in KC area add KMCI HD we won't know.
Sunflower Cable System in Lawerance,KS has KMCI HD.

I get KMCI-DT over the air and it wasn't in HD. Just the "38 The Spot" sidebars.

I hear it is very close to HD. They are working on the behing the scene glitches of 41 going HD before they address the Spot in HD! Graphics are usually the issues time constraint.

I agree with on KSHB's newscast. I see how that other forum always bashed KSHB, but I do like their newscast, and Gary Lezak does seem to know the weather. I used to watch KCTV 5 but a few years ago when they starting trying to be the perv catches and all their "we gotta catch the bad guys" stories, I quickly lost interest. KSHB has some good personalities and show me the news I want to see.

In this morning's (Saturday) KC Star, there was an article about an editor of the NY Times that lives in Maryville that rated the accuracy of the four affiliate weathercasts, as well as the National Weather Service. It looks as though they all do about the same as far as accuracy goes (24-48 hour forecast are OK, long range forecasts are bad). I am also pleased that 41 has gone HD because I believe Lezak (41) as well as Thompson (4) seem to be the most accurate and most knowledgable about the weather (both having meteorological degrees - Thompson also having served as a meteorologist in the Navy), where Busby (9) has over 20 years of experience and has a strong support staff of meteorologists, but Horner (5) is the least experienced and the most panicky of the four whenever severe weather happens. I do know that 41 and 9, because they were the first to go HD, also do not (usually) go from HD to SD whenever severe weather occurs with their graphics.

I live in Blue SPrings and I have a 50" HDTV. I have been using an OTA set of rabbit ears (for two years)to get over the air 4-1, 5-1, 9-1, 9-2, 19-1, 19-2, 19-3, 19-4, 29-1, 38-1, 41-1, 41-2, 50-1, 62-1. I woke up this moring and am only getting 4-1, 5-1, 9-1 and some freaking 16-1 that I have never had before.

It used to take just minimal adjusting to get all the channels before, but now I can't get any of the old ones except the few I mentioned.

The tv is a Samsung. Any ideas?

I have to say that I watched 9 for several days after their conversion to HD and I thought 41 did a much better job on the conversion. There were A LOT of mis-steps and badly stretched video from 9, but I watched 41 at 5pm the first day they broadcast in HD and I didn't notice any problems. I mean, yea, they still have some SD video, but it's mostly video they get from outside sources and obviously there's nothing they can do about that. Overall, I think 41 beat 9 hands down.

Now, if 5 and 4 would stop having to go to SD during severe weather, I'd be set!

I am just waiting for either 9 or 41 do show sports clips that were originally in HD, in HD during the Sports segments.

Also, could your tv tuner be set to cable instead of OTA. This would allow reception of VHF but not UHF channels.

Thanks!

This is what worked. Now I just have to find a place to permanently put it.

I have to say that I watched 9 for several days after their conversion to HD and I thought 41 did a much better job on the conversion. There were A LOT of mis-steps and badly stretched video from 9, but I watched 41 at 5pm the first day they broadcast in HD and I didn't notice any problems. I mean, yea, they still have some SD video, but it's mostly video they get from outside sources and obviously there's nothing they can do about that. Overall, I think 41 beat 9 hands down.

Now, if 5 and 4 would stop having to go to SD during severe weather, I'd be set!

I definitely agree. The same went for me. I saw on here that the morning newscast was in HD, so I watched the evening news in HD and was very pleased. I don't really like channel 9, and have always preferred 41, so i'm pretty glad that 41 is in HD now.

I am just waiting for either 9 or 41 do show sports clips that were originally in HD, in HD during the Sports segments.
Heck, most of the major networks don't even do that. Sometimes during CBS' NFL halftime show they'll show SD highlights of THEIR HD games!

Hi guys,

I just recently moved into the K.C. area, and have been totally confused with the state of things on the local FOX & ABC HD broadcasts.

We have TW Cable, and an 8300HD DVR box. Half of the time, the HD picture on Fox and ABC is unwatchable - nothing but pixelation, tearing, etc. Going straight into the TV's DTV antenna port has the same result. I hooked up a cheap antenna to the TV, and ABC-HD comes in just fine, but the TV keeps losing the signal on Fox every 10 seconds or so.

I've been debating about spending more for a better antenna, but that wouldn't explain why the signal via TW cable isn't any better.

We live near the 69 & 439 intersection. I've tried searching threads for similar problems but haven't seen any recent ones. Can someone tell me what might be going on?

Thank-you!

--Imre

This question is regarding over the air broadcast signals.

I receive all the digital channels I should be receiving on my portable kitchen ATSC TV, except for 9-1, 9-2, 41-1 and 41-2. They only come in intermittently.

When I first bought the TV (about 2 weeks ago) I could get 41 but not 9. Now I get 9 sometimes, but haven't been able to get 41 in about a week.

I'm using the $9.99 RCA antenna from Best Buy that got good reviews (ANT111). The antenna sits in my south-facing kitchen window.

I live on the Northern edge of KC, at about 108th and Cookingham.

I'm assuming my problems are because I'm on the far edge of the city.

My question is: In February 2009 with the mandatory switch, will the local stations strengthen their signals? This is what I'm hoping.

It's just a kitchen TV (my others are on cable) but annoying nonetheless.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/localnews042808.htm
TV Guide has 703 Mens Channel 704 Health Living Channel and 706 ESPNOW but not 177 Hallmark Movie Channel,97 KCPT,276 NHL Network and 106 Fox Buisness Channel.

This question is regarding over the air broadcast signals.

I receive all the digital channels I should be receiving on my portable kitchen ATSC TV, except for 9-1, 9-2, 41-1 and 41-2. They only come in intermittently.

When I first bought the TV (about 2 weeks ago) I could get 41 but not 9. Now I get 9 sometimes, but haven't been able to get 41 in about a week.

I'm using the $9.99 RCA antenna from Best Buy that got good reviews (ANT111). The antenna sits in my south-facing kitchen window.

I live on the Northern edge of KC, at about 108th and Cookingham.

I'm assuming my problems are because I'm on the far edge of the city.

My question is: In February 2009 with the mandatory switch, will the local stations strengthen their signals? This is what I'm hoping.

It's just a kitchen TV (my others are on cable) but annoying nonetheless. Channel 9 will change broadcast frequencies, but I don't think they can go any higher with their power output. But the change in broadcast frequency may help some folks.

Channel 41 will stay put in the frequency spectrum after the switch. I couldn't tell you if they plan to boost their power or not. All the wiki info says they're at 450kW and I thought UHF broadcasters could go to 1000kW. So I'm not sure there.

An indoor antenna like you have works best if you're in an urban area close to the TV transmit towers. Judging from your location, you probably fit that criteria. I plugged you into http://www.antennaweb.org/ and it shows that your antenna should be pointed slightly west of south. If you bump that antenna from time to time, or move objects in the room near the antenna, or stand near it, you'll get varying results.

Hi guys,

I just recently moved into the K.C. area, and have been totally confused with the state of things on the local FOX & ABC HD broadcasts.

We have TW Cable, and an 8300HD DVR box. Half of the time, the HD picture on Fox and ABC is unwatchable - nothing but pixelation, tearing, etc. Going straight into the TV's DTV antenna port has the same result. I hooked up a cheap antenna to the TV, and ABC-HD comes in just fine, but the TV keeps losing the signal on Fox every 10 seconds or so.

I've been debating about spending more for a better antenna, but that wouldn't explain why the signal via TW cable isn't any better.

We live near the 69 & 439 intersection. I've tried searching threads for similar problems but haven't seen any recent ones. Can someone tell me what might be going on?

Thank-you!

--Imre
Cable and satellite providers compress digital tv signals. It's not going to look quite as good as if you get it over the air. That said, I have Time Warner and haven't had the problems you're describing. If it's a chronic problem, you should get a tech to come check out your equipment.

For your antenna option, go to http://www.antennaweb.org/ and put in your address and see a) what kind of antenna you should be using, and b) where to point it. My guess is that an indoor antenna (which I'm guessing you're using) isn't going to be your best option. I live in the western part of Lenexa, I have an attic mounted antenna and I get great results ... even during bad weather.

Hi guys,

I just recently moved into the K.C. area, and have been totally confused with the state of things on the local FOX & ABC HD broadcasts.

We have TW Cable, and an 8300HD DVR box. Half of the time, the HD picture on Fox and ABC is unwatchable - nothing but pixelation, tearing, etc. Going straight into the TV's DTV antenna port has the same result. I hooked up a cheap antenna to the TV, and ABC-HD comes in just fine, but the TV keeps losing the signal on Fox every 10 seconds or so.

I've been debating about spending more for a better antenna, but that wouldn't explain why the signal via TW cable isn't any better.

We live near the 69 & 439 intersection. I've tried searching threads for similar problems but haven't seen any recent ones. Can someone tell me what might be going on?

Thank-you!

--Imre

What have you been watching with this tearing and pixelation? Is it just certain shows? If you're getting pixelation on static images/video, then you need to contact your local office. I haven't had any problems with TWC local network picture quality in comparison to OTA. It seems that the feed i'm getting over TWC is identical to OTA (with high-motion pixelation and all).

SDV is enabled in KC according to my SA8300 HD DVR.

page 20 (connections & Tiers page) of the config page shows "SDV Mode -1 (SDV Enabled)"

page 21 (switched digital broadcast page) of the config page shows "authorized = Yes" and "SDB Server Reg = Ready"

I checked these pages a couple weeks ago and they both showed SDB/SDV as being disabled.

I'm going to hook up at digital converter at my grandparents house between Wellington MO and Lexington MO on May 17.

They have a large antenna in their attic that has been there since the late 1950s or 60s. It always picked up the analog KC & St. Jo 2 channels great with Topeka and Columbia coming and going. Occasionally when I was a kid Springfield, St. Louis, Quincy IL and Kirksville appeared!!!

Anyhow, what should I expect? I'd assume that all of the KC channels have good digital signals. The only one I'm worried about is 38 since it has always been behind the times.

I want this to be easy for them since they're both late 80s in age.

I'm going to hook up at digital converter at my grandparents house between Wellington MO and Lexington MO on May 17.

They have a large antenna in their attic that has been there since the late 1950s or 60s. It always picked up the analog KC & St. Jo 2 channels great with Topeka and Columbia coming and going. Occasionally when I was a kid Springfield, St. Louis, Quincy IL and Kirksville appeared!!!

Anyhow, what should I expect? I'd assume that all of the KC channels have good digital signals. The only one I'm worried about is 38 since it has always been behind the times.

I want this to be easy for them since they're both late 80s in age.

No reason to think it won't work until you try it. I recently hooked one up (the Digital Stream from RatShack) for my 89-year-old mother near Wichita. She was getting horrible reception on one channel (bad multipath), but it comes in perfectly in digital, as well as all the others. She has an attic antenna, also, and the distance is similar. You may have to tweak the antenna direction, but I doubt it. The only one that I might worry about is PBS (19-1,2,3, and 4), as it's pretty low power. If your grandparents aren't behind a hill or something, you should be OK. Good Luck!

Brad

Anybody know if/how the KC digital channels come in OTA in Warrensburg? I remember back in college 97-02 that we got Fox 4 very fuzzy and nothing else (we also lived in a low area of the town). On 9/11 our TV footage at home was so barely visible through the static that most of my info of that morning came from NPR.

When EverestKC and AT&T U-Verse comes available to Lees Summit it will be up to them to hook up a deal for Lees Summit's PEG Channel.
Did you Comcast is also in Lees Summit?

When AT&T U-Verse comes available to Lees Summit it will be up to them to hook up a deal for Lees Summit's PEG Channel.
Lee's Summit probably won't bother, though. I used to work for another city running their PEG channel, and AT&T had a meeting with us to tell us how to get on their system. Although we could get on U-Verse...

- We'd have to supply the streaming server to send the signal out on the dedicated T1 they supply.
- The video quality would only be 320x240 at 1Mbps.
- PEG channels would be relegated to one special section of the service. By doing this, there'd be no opportunity for guide information or even DVR use on the PEG channels.
- We'd be told in what areas of the city they'd be installing service but NOT how many people were actually subscribing to it.

They made it possible to get a PEG channel on U-Verse but highly undesirable to do so.

Anybody having difficulty with D** again and the Royals broadcasts? I could not get last nights game on either 648 or 648-1...just a black screen. Same thing happened last thursday. I don't get it any one have any idea or anyone who watched it last night?

According to the link below it appears that either KCTV or KSMO will pick up the .2 Network on one of their subchannels.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1024693

At least it isn't another worthless weather channel or religious broadcaster, right?

Wow, I watched Dancing With The Stars tonight on KMBC HD OTA and the picture and audio was perfect. No blocking and no audio dropouts. I usually get blocking and audio dropout at least once a minute or so. Did they fix something or did I get lucky ?

Anybody having difficulty with D** again and the Royals broadcasts? I could not get last nights game on either 648 or 648-1...just a black screen. Same thing happened last thursday. I don't get it any one have any idea or anyone who watched it last night?

I got the game in HD. I think it was on the first 648-1 in the guide, even though it showed as being on the second one. Why there are two, I still haven't heard...

Good catch about the .2 Network! If KCTV puts it on 62.2, then it could be HD since 62.1 isn't. My TiVo would be very happy with that arrangement!

Another Local Weather Channel would be good that's between 1 and 99 meaning available on all cable Systems/S.Dish here.
Know a 24/7 Local News Channel would do good here to.
Just waiting for the RTN Affliate to come to KC.
172 will be Fox Movie Channel.
The reason why Comcast Olathe/MO Lineups are not up to date Online because they are doing changes in the area.

SDV is enabled in KC according to my SA8300 HD DVR.

page 20 (connections & Tiers page) of the config page shows "SDV Mode -1 (SDV Enabled)"

page 21 (switched digital broadcast page) of the config page shows "authorized = Yes" and "SDB Server Reg = Ready"

I checked these pages a couple weeks ago and they both showed SDB/SDV as being disabled.

How do you look at these config pages?

How do you look at these config pages?

To enter Diagnostic Menu, you hold down SELECT button on the remote until you see the tiny "MAIL" icon on front panel light up, then press DOWN ARROW key.

Then press left-right to in between the pages.

For all who need to know, if you need an all in one antenna for OTA in KC...definately pick up the antennas direct XG-91. I know it's a UHF only antenna, but this sucker DOES pull in high VHF very well. I just installed mine, and KMBC is coming in nearly perfect off the BACKSIDE of the unit, PERFECT analog signal when pointed toward the transmitter. I live south of Odessa near route 131 on the Lafayette/Johnson county line, and with Chapel Hill ot my west, I don't even have LOS. This is SO much smaller and less conspicuous than a large combo antenna, and I highy reccommend it for use around here. (Use that pre-amp if you are out past 25 miles, though)

SDV is enabled in KC according to my SA8300 HD DVR.

page 20 (connections & Tiers page) of the config page shows "SDV Mode -1 (SDV Enabled)"

page 21 (switched digital broadcast page) of the config page shows "authorized = Yes" and "SDB Server Reg = Ready"

I checked these pages a couple weeks ago and they both showed SDB/SDV as being disabled.

Is the SA-8300HDC different than the 8300HD? I have the HDC model and my diagnostic screens are 9 pages long, not 20+ pages long.

891 as of yesterday is Travel and Leisure Om Demand with just Disney Travel at the moment.
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/2008/05/mgm_and_comcast_bring_consumers_more_high-def_movies_through_mgm_hd.php
Where will be when moved to the Digital Section
AMC-138
TMC-141
MSNBC-179 but GSN is Right their know
True TV-182
SHOPNBC-280 when added
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641952&page=4 for you Comcast poster.

I live in Overland Park, KS and I just got a 720p HDTV. What is the best way to recieve HD channels? I currently have TWC basic. Should I upgrade to the HD box? Does basic come with HD Discovery or would I have to upgrade to the full package with all channels?

Or is there a better option than TWC? I don't think I can do satalite as I live in an appt complex.

TWC does not currently have the Discovery Channel in HD - at least the channel listings on the website do not indicate this.

TWC does not currently have the Discovery Channel in HD - at least the channel listings on the website do not indicate this.

I talked to them earlier on the phone and they said they did. But you're right, it doesn't show it on the page. Hmm...

People get Discovery HD Theatre and Discovery HD mixed up. They are two different channels. Discovery Networks renamed the latter channel to "HD Theatre" earlier this year to help avoid the confusion.

Time Warner carries "HD Theatre"

I live in Overland Park, KS and I just got a 720p HDTV. What is the best way to recieve HD channels? I currently have TWC basic. Should I upgrade to the HD box? Does basic come with HD Discovery or would I have to upgrade to the full package with all channels?

Or is there a better option than TWC? I don't think I can do satalite as I live in an appt complex.

You should be able to pick up about a dozen digital channels with your basic package. Some of them don't run HD programming but some do, like ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox/PBS. I am in an apt complex and am picking these channels up with the basic package.

To get more than that, you will have to upgrade to digital cable.

I'm at my parents near Lexington, east of KC. They recently purchased a new SD Tube TV.

Their old antenna has been up there since at least 1994. It had some type of an amplifier that was very rusted. It had since been bypassed. When I tried to run it back through the amp it would rapidly flicker off and on. The 300 ohm cables going from the antenna to the amp were pretty beat up with lots of wire showing. The ends had little wired left and the screws were so rusted there was nothing left to unscrew.

I went out looking for a Channel Master which seems have good reviews online. I couldn't locate one on a Sunday. I found one at RadioShack, the VU-90XR. Hopefully this works out for me tomorrow when I put it up. It doesn't have any of the color codes on the box. Here is what antenna web told me for this location. I'm not worried about the St. Jo channels or the LP Univision.

DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City, State Live
Date Compass
Heading Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
* yellow
uhf KCWE-DT 29.1 CW KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 31
* yellow
uhf KPXE-DT 50.1 ION KANSAS CITY, MO 253° 33.2 51
yellow
uhf KCWE 29 CW KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 29
* yellow
vhf KMBC-DT 9.1 ABC KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 7
* yellow
uhf KCTV-DT 5.1 CBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 36.1 24
yellow
uhf KSMO 62 MNT KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 30.0 62
* yellow
vhf KMBC-DT 9.1 ABC KANSAS CITY, MO Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 261° 32.4 9
* yellow
uhf KSMO-DT 62.1 MNT KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 30.0 47
yellow
uhf KCPT 19 PBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 30.6 19
* yellow
uhf KCPT-DT 19.1 PBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 30.6 18
green
uhf KMCI 38 IND LAWRENCE, KS 249° 35.1 38
green
uhf KSHB 41 NBC KANSAS CITY, MO 249° 35.1 41
green
uhf KPXE 50 ION KANSAS CITY, MO 253° 33.2 50
green
vhf KMBC 9 ABC KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 9
lt green
vhf WDAF 4 FOX KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 36.8 4
* lt green
uhf KMCI-DT 38.1 IND LAWRENCE, KS 249° 35.1 36
lt green
vhf KCTV 5 CBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 36.1 5
* red
uhf KSHB-DT 41.1 NBC KANSAS CITY, MO 249° 35.1 42
* blue
vhf KQTV-DT 7.1 ABC ST. JOSEPH, MO Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 311° 63.9 7
blue
uhf KUKC-LP 48 UNI KANSAS CITY, MO 259° 30.9 48
blue
vhf KQTV 2 ABC ST. JOSEPH, MO 311° 63.9 2
blue
uhf KTAJ 16 TBN ST. JOSEPH, MO 309° 53.3 16
* violet
uhf KMCI-DT 41.1 IND LAWRENCE, KS Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 249° 35.1 41

Is the SA-8300HDC different than the 8300HD? I have the HDC model and my diagnostic screens are 9 pages long, not 20+ pages long.

There are two guides. I forget where the SDV is on the 9 page listing, but it's still in there somewhere.

I'm at my parents near Lexington, east of KC. They recently purchased a new SD Tube TV.

Their old antenna has been up there since at least 1994. It had some type of an amplifier that was very rusted. It had since been bypassed. When I tried to run it back through the amp it would rapidly flicker off and on. The 300 ohm cables going from the antenna to the amp were pretty beat up with lots of wire showing. The ends had little wired left and the screws were so rusted there was nothing left to unscrew.

I went out looking for a Channel Master which seems have good reviews online. I couldn't locate one on a Sunday. I found one at RadioShack, the VU-90XR. Hopefully this works out for me tomorrow when I put it up. It doesn't have any of the color codes on the box. Here is what antenna web told me for this location. I'm not worried about the St. Jo channels or the LP Univision.

DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City, State Live
Date Compass
Heading Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
* yellow
uhf KCWE-DT 29.1 CW KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 31
* yellow
uhf KPXE-DT 50.1 ION KANSAS CITY, MO 253° 33.2 51
yellow
uhf KCWE 29 CW KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 29
* yellow
vhf KMBC-DT 9.1 ABC KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 7
* yellow
uhf KCTV-DT 5.1 CBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 36.1 24
yellow
uhf KSMO 62 MNT KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 30.0 62
* yellow
vhf KMBC-DT 9.1 ABC KANSAS CITY, MO Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 261° 32.4 9
* yellow
uhf KSMO-DT 62.1 MNT KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 30.0 47
yellow
uhf KCPT 19 PBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 30.6 19
* yellow
uhf KCPT-DT 19.1 PBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 30.6 18
green
uhf KMCI 38 IND LAWRENCE, KS 249° 35.1 38
green
uhf KSHB 41 NBC KANSAS CITY, MO 249° 35.1 41
green
uhf KPXE 50 ION KANSAS CITY, MO 253° 33.2 50
green
vhf KMBC 9 ABC KANSAS CITY, MO 261° 32.4 9
lt green
vhf WDAF 4 FOX KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 36.8 4
* lt green
uhf KMCI-DT 38.1 IND LAWRENCE, KS 249° 35.1 36
lt green
vhf KCTV 5 CBS KANSAS CITY, MO 260° 36.1 5
* red
uhf KSHB-DT 41.1 NBC KANSAS CITY, MO 249° 35.1 42
* blue
vhf KQTV-DT 7.1 ABC ST. JOSEPH, MO Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 311° 63.9 7
blue
uhf KUKC-LP 48 UNI KANSAS CITY, MO 259° 30.9 48
blue
vhf KQTV 2 ABC ST. JOSEPH, MO 311° 63.9 2
blue
uhf KTAJ 16 TBN ST. JOSEPH, MO 309° 53.3 16
* violet
uhf KMCI-DT 41.1 IND LAWRENCE, KS Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 249° 35.1 41

Welcome to the KC Forum, nroden! Is there a question here somewhere?

Does your parents' new SDTV have an ATSC digital tuner? It probably does if it was manufactured after March '07. If not, you will need a converter box. You may or may not need a preamp on the antenna. You may want to try it with just a new balun (matching transformer) at the antenna, assuming the downlead coax cable is OK. What you have going for you is that the KC stations are all in basically the same direction.

Brad

There are two guides. I forget where the SDV is on the 9 page listing, but it's still in there somewhere.

I'm sorry - I wasn't very clear in my question. I see where the SDV is enabled in my 8300HDC. I'm just curious if the HDC and HD models are different.

Is anyone else having audio sync issues with the Fox 4 HD feed from DirecTV?

All three of my HR21-700's have been having problems since at least Sunday and it is only occurring on Fox 4. When I watch the channel on the TV's via the OTA antenna, no problems. Only when I watch it off the HD local spot beam from DirecTV.

I've tried rebooting the machines and the many other "helpful" suggestions from DirecTV but the problem persists. So is this just something weird in my household or is it a more area wide issue?

10:18 PM

KMBC Analog and Digital out, as well as KCWE Analog and Digital.

I'm getting a 75% signal on KCWE-DT, but no picture and then my Dish Network VIP 722 error messages.

10:18 PM

KMBC Analog and Digital out, as well as KCWE Analog and Digital.

I'm getting a 75% signal on KCWE-DT, but no picture and then my Dish Network VIP 722 error messages.

When I try KMBC digital over the air, no picture or sound, not sure what the signal strength is. On TWC Qam-clear, I hear the sound but the picture is blank, same for the weather sub-channel. However, the analog channel via TWC is fine.

On Dish Network KCWE Analog and Digital OTA are back... but KMBC Analog & Digital via Satellite have broken audio with no video.

TWC gets a fiber link to the stations.

What did KCTV5's news go late last night at 10 pm? I flipped over to watch Letterman and it was still on. Then to make matters worse when they finally showed Letterman around 11pm it was in SD the whole time.

Their did National Election Coverage.
The security channel is for apartments, hotels and condos only not for residential places.
So if the bellman calls you to ask if you're expecting so and so you can tune to channel 96 and say either "I don't know the guy" and they are ushered out or "yeah that's him" and the bellman lets him board the elevator to your apartment.

I'm sorry - I wasn't very clear in my question. I see where the SDV is enabled in my 8300HDC. I'm just curious if the HDC and HD models are different.

AHH ok. The only difference between the 8300HD and 8300HDC is the CableCARD slot on the back of the box. Functionally they're the same though.

Because of Election Coverage.

Was that National Network election coverage or Local KCTV5 election coverage?

Pretty annoying for KCTV to switch to SD during the price is right to show a promo about $600 giveaway on the 10:00 news. I definitely won't be tuning into that.

What is sad is 2 stations in Market #137 (Topeka) can overlay graphics on HD, but yet KCTV in Market #29 can't?

Edit:

Apparently KCTV-5 has more to worry about than on-air graphics....
http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2008/05/reckless-shamel.html

So when I get Time Warner next week, I will not be able to watch Deadliest Catch in HD?

As far as I can tell... You will not.

TWC does not carry The Discovery Channel HD.

I'm at my parents near Lexington, east of KC. They recently purchased a new SD Tube TV.

Their old antenna has been up there since at least 1994. It had some type of an amplifier that was very rusted. It had since been bypassed. When I tried to run it back through the amp it would rapidly flicker off and on. The 300 ohm cables going from the antenna to the amp were pretty beat up with lots of wire showing. The ends had little wired left and the screws were so rusted there was nothing left to unscrew.

I went out looking for a Channel Master which seems have good reviews online. I couldn't locate one on a Sunday. I found one at RadioShack, the VU-90XR. Hopefully this works out for me tomorrow when I put it up. It doesn't have any of the color codes on the box. Here is what antenna web told me for this location. I'm not worried about the St. Jo channels or the LP Univision.



This Radio Shack VU-90XR antenna worked great. I received all KC channels PERFECTLY in both digital and analog with no problem. No amplifier needed. The new antenna is even considerably shorter than the old.
I just thought I'd drop in and share my results.

As far as I can tell... You will not.

TWC does not carry The Discovery Channel HD.

It seems as if there has been a real slow down in the deployment of new HD content on our local cable systems... I have Everest here in OP, and have not seen a new channel (other than FoxSportsMidwest part-time) in months. I have been hoping for specifically Discovery HD and ESPNNews HD, but cannot get any commitment from Everest as to this happening any time soon.:(

It seems as if there has been a real slow down in the deployment of new HD content on our local cable systems... I have Everest here in OP, and have not seen a new channel (other than FoxSportsMidwest part-time) in months. I have been hoping for specifically Discovery HD and ESPNNews HD, but cannot get any commitment from Everest as to this happening any time soon.:(

What amazes me is that DISH/DirecTV can spend millions on new satellites and offer somewhere around 100 HD Channels, while TWC locally offers a handfull.

The technology is there, why aren't they using it? Especially whey they can get more money from the HD consumer?

Mike

What amazes me is that DISH/DirecTV can spend millions on new satellites and offer somewhere around 100 HD Channels, while TWC locally offers a handfull.

The technology is there, why aren't they using it? Especially whey they can get more money from the HD consumer?

Mike

last I heard, we're getting more channels over the summer... So it could be in 3 weeks or 3 months...

It seems as if there has been a real slow down in the deployment of new HD content on our local cable systems... I have Everest here in OP, and have not seen a new channel (other than FoxSportsMidwest part-time) in months. I have been hoping for specifically Discovery HD and ESPNNews HD, but cannot get any commitment from Everest as to this happening any time soon.:(

I agree. I see no reason to subscribe to the HD tier yet. I am mostly happy with the clear QAM channels and see no reason to pay for a total of over $20. The only ones Everest carries that I am interested in are Food, HGTV, and NGEO. I just can't justify the cost for those 3.

It seems as if there has been a real slow down in the deployment of new HD content on our local cable systems... I have Everest here in OP, and have not seen a new channel (other than FoxSportsMidwest part-time) in months. I have been hoping for specifically Discovery HD and ESPNNews HD, but cannot get any commitment from Everest as to this happening any time soon.:(

I'm also interested in when more of the local news stations will convert over to HD. Only ABC and NBC local news is HD right now, if I remember correctly.

I was surfing the channels tonight and noticed I was getting bad audio/video on Fox on TWC Qam-clear 93-12, during the commercials anyway....when the news came on I saw it a couple times but not near as bad.

last I heard, we're getting more channels over the summer... So it could be in 3 weeks or 3 months...

Any more details as to the specific channels?

Any more details as to the specific channels?

I haven't heard anything specific. I'm willing to bet it's the networks which show up on HD Showcase OnDemand.

Does Everest have a contract with ESPNNEWS HD because Comcast does but we don't get it and Weather Channel,NHL Network,Fox Business Channel,Game and Team and so HD?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641952&page=4
http://www.timewarnercable.com/kansascity/programming/hdtv/programming.html MOJO HD is in the HD Pack on channel 1501 and been their for awile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_video
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/06/05/time-warner-to-deploy-switched-digital-to-50-of-their-markets-i/
Comcast isn't doing that yet only moving channels to digital side.

Looks like switched digital video is about to hit TWC in KC. I show 4 new channels that popup but not active yet.

When I go into Diag, the Switch Digital Video page says..
SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: State Ready
but
Primary Tuner State: Inactive

The channels are in a new range, 1800s. The names are..

SDB-Tennis
SDB-ESPN Classic
SDB-CSTV
SDB-Fuel

What does SDB stand for, switch digital broadcast? I'm disappointed there's no HD versions of Science, SciFi, TLC, Animal Planet and others. Tennis seems to be very special interest to waste HD bandwidth on. Does it have more mass appeal than the others?

Update, TWC just added NHL NET, MoJo and NBA to the 'SBD' channel section in just an hour. Looks like we should be getting a lot more HD channels soon.

Almost all of those channels are in the "Sports Pack" which is interesting. I dumped my TWC though... got tired of waiting for HD lol

Update, TWC just added NHL NET, MoJo and NBA to the 'SBD' channel section in just an hour. Looks like we should be getting a lot more HD channels soon.

Where are those at? I don't see any channels above the 1700's?

This could be really good news!!!

Do we need to be in the Diagnostics page/mode? Anyone know how to do that on Navigator?

Do we need to be in the Diagnostics page/mode? Anyone know how to do that on Navigator?

You don't need to be in diag mode to see the new channels. But to go into diag, hold down the Select button on remote. When a mail flag appears on the box, press the down arrow.

To see the new channels, I just went to the highest channel (Starz HD) and the went up a few more channels. Or you can start at channel 1 and go down. It doesn't show up yet in the guide. BTW, I'm in Westport/Plaza area.

Once they get a few channels going in SDV, they should be able to add as many as they want. Other markets that started SDV have added 50 new HD channels very quickly.

What is sad is 2 stations in Market #137 (Topeka) can overlay graphics on HD, but yet KCTV in Market #29 can't?

Edit:

Apparently KCTV-5 has more to worry about than on-air graphics....
http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2008/05/reckless-shamel.html

Last night, during Numb3rs, Ch. 5's on-screen weather graphics showed up overlayed on the HD channel without going from 16x9 to 4x3. They still need to update their "what's coming up at 10" banner graphics, though - when these displayed the screen was compressed to 4x3.

I noticed that Ch 5 was able to do it during Big Bang Theory on Monday. They didn't have the logo up the entire episode but for the first 5 minutes or so they had a weather watch logo up in the upper right hand corner of the screen and it was still in HD. I think it's probably just a matter of time before all the stations will be able to do these and we no longer have to curse the tv because a t-storm warning graphic is interrupting our HD goodness.

I called TWC about the extra channels and she said they are 'coming soon' but didn't know when. They plan on adding many more channels but she couldn't say how many. Other TWC cities with SDV have added 50 new HD channels recently.

You can probley call Comcast and they would say the same thing to probley new channels coming soon.
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2003/09/15/story1.html?page=1 but no Cox Communcations in the KC area but is also in Topeka and other parts of the KS
It's like Metro Weather has a contract just with TWCKC or CFN13 has a contact with BHN meaning Comcast,S.Dish AT&T U-Verse in Orlando can't have it in their Lineups.
Fine Living is on 260 right know and the Shopping Channel moving is Jewerly TV.

I called TWC about the extra channels and she said they are 'coming soon' but didn't know when. They plan on adding many more channels but she couldn't say how many. Other TWC cities with SDV have added 50 new HD channels recently.

I called in today twice on various issues and asked about the 1800 series channels both times. Neither rep had even heard about the channels.

The first rep said that those were new channels that would be added soon and actually grabbed a remote and turned the tv in their call center to the channels. The second rep said the same thing, but then read a memo stating that channels would be moving around later this week and that 3 new HD channels would be added at that time. She specificially mentioned 21 (shopping) moving to 260 - that is now occupied.

So, we'll see. Apparently they don't even know!

Mike

From what I understand, SDV is deployed by neighborhood, where SDV 'nodes' serve up to 500 households or something like that - don't recall the details. Anywho, maybe Westport/Plaza where I am is first since it has higher density with hirise housing. I'm in a condo building with 140 units... possibly easier to deploy in these buildings first.

The new HD channels still show up but are not yet active.

From what I understand, SDV is deployed by neighborhood, where SDV 'nodes' serve up to 500 households or something like that - don't recall the details. Anywho, maybe Westport/Plaza where I am is first since it has higher density with hirise housing. I'm in a condo building with 140 units... possibly easier to deploy in these buildings first.

The new HD channels still show up but are not yet active.

i'm right by you (between westport and martini corner) so i'll check this out when I get home from work today.
edit: yep, i see em, but no content.

I can see them here in Lee's Summit, but they aren't active here either.

You can probley call Comcast and they would say the same thing to probley new channels coming soon.
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2003/09/15/story1.html?page=1 but no Cox Communcations in the KC area.
Fine Living is on 260 right know and the Shopping Channel moving is Jewerly TV.

First - you need to remember that "probably" is the correct spelling.

Second - Cox in Omaha has the same type of agreement with WOWT channel 6 in which it simulcasts the news on Cox's channel 1, then rebroadcasts the last newscast until the next live news broadcast. This differs from what KAKE proposes, but does incorporate a sidebar and scroll across the bottom of the screen with updated headlines and weather information.

You can probley call Comcast and they would say the same thing to probley new channels coming soon.
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2003/09/15/story1.html?page=1 but no Cox Communcations in the KC area.
Fine Living is on 260 right know and the Shopping Channel moving is Jewerly TV.

Dude, that is 5 Years ago! KAKE & WIBW have had "Kansas Now 22" for 5 years.

In the western fringe of LS I also noticed those channels this weekend, just randomly flipping channels. I usually do everything through the guide or change to specific channels. I never use the ch up, ch dn buttons, so it surprised me when I saw them.

On a side note, I have been working on my HTPC over the weekend and added a digital turner card. I was trying to get the available channels over QAM but have been having trouble. Both Dvico supplied software and MediaPortal scan and find channels, but I can't tune with either. Is it possible I am having issues because of these changes they are doing? Do things bode poorly in the future with these changes? Can anyone tell me in english what these SDV changes mean to us?

Can anyone tell me in english what these SDV changes mean to us? (end quote) SDV is Switched Digital Video. What that means, basically, is that SDV chanels have no permanant assigned frequency. The end user (you) will look at his program guide on his cable box and request to see a chanel. The cable box will send a request back to the node or cable head end. The head end tells the cable box to go to a specific chanel to watch this chanel this one time. When you switch to another chanel, the other program is droped. And that chanel is then clear for the next user. This is the same thing they do with "On Demand" chanels. This SDV service requires 2 way communication between the cable box and the cable heade end. Therefore, it doesn't work with most cable cards in the field,at preasent.

Don H.

Today I noticed that on TWC Qam-clear, ABC and it's weather channel have been moved around, there's another channel missing I think but I don't remember what station it is. I'm picking up HGTV and Food Network in HD now, and a shopping channel not in HD.

I'm picking up HGTV and Food Network in HD now, and a shopping channel not in HD.

Over clear QAM? As an Everest customer I'm very envious of you. Those are 2 of 3 only worthwhile non-QAM HD channels Everest has.

Over clear QAM? As an Everest customer I'm very envious of you. Those are 2 of 3 only worthwhile non-QAM HD channels Everest has.

I'm also envious since I don't get FoodHD or HGTV-HD with TWC in KCMO. Maybe I should check my STB and clear-QAM to see if it's been added...

More ghost HD channels have been added to TWC but are not active yet...

SDB-Tennis
SDB-ESPN Classic
SDB-CSTV
SDB-Fuel
SDB-NBA
SDB-NHL Network
SDB-Mojo

And today...
HGTV HD
Food HD
PPV HD (pay per view)

Am hoping Animal Planet, Discovery, TLC and Science show up soon.

Today I noticed that on TWC Qam-clear, ABC and it's weather channel have been moved around, there's another channel missing I think but I don't remember what station it is. I'm picking up HGTV and Food Network in HD now, and a shopping channel not in HD.

Are you saying you found ABC on QAM since it disappeared from 112-12? What channels are you getting ABC, HGTV and Food on?

Over clear QAM? As an Everest customer I'm very envious of you. Those are 2 of 3 only worthwhile non-QAM HD channels Everest has.

Yes, it is on clear QAM. Probably won't last too long as channels have been moving around quite a bit. There have been several other occasions in which a channel appeared on clear QAM, lasted a couple days, then disappeared.

Are you saying you found ABC on QAM since it disappeared from 112-12? What channels are you getting ABC, HGTV and Food on?

ABC is 83-6, HGTV HD is 123-10, Food HD is 123-11.

ABC is 83-6, HGTV HD is 123-10, Food HD is 123-11.

Wow! So TWC has agreements and is broadcasting them, but the sdb/sdv is apparently just not turned on yet. Hopefully this is good news and more hd channels will be coming soon!

I know this might be a little off topic but I know there are a lot of people in here who have one, my question is how do you download from the DVR? I figured out how to upload pictures but can I download recorded shows to USB?

What your getting ABC New Now?

Anyone having poor reception of OTA DTV signals around KC? I'm only 14 miles from the majority of the towers, yet my reception is horrid. Analog channels come in great, but digital blows.

Anyone having poor reception of OTA DTV signals around KC? I'm only 14 miles from the majority of the towers, yet my reception is horrid. Analog channels come in great, but digital blows.

When I emailed the KSHB engineer earlier this year after having my OTA antenna installed, he said that they would be fine tuning and moving their antenna around on the tower later in the year.

Maybe that is what's happening?

More ghost HD channels have been added to TWC but are not active yet...

SDB-Tennis
SDB-ESPN Classic
SDB-CSTV
SDB-Fuel
SDB-NBA
SDB-NHL Network
SDB-Mojo

And today...
HGTV HD
Food HD
PPV HD (pay per view)

Am hoping Animal Planet, Discovery, TLC and Science show up soon.

TWC added another ghost channel today..
SDB-MHD

What is it? Still none active yet.

MHD is Music HD, a 24/7 HD channel from MTV. It isn't, however, MTV-HD.

When I emailed the KSHB engineer earlier this year after having my OTA antenna installed, he said that they would be fine tuning and moving their antenna around on the tower later in the year.

Maybe that is what's happening?

Possibly, but I experience this with all of my OTA DTV signals. Granted my antenna is an indoor antenna, and I do have negative variables against me inlcuding walls and trees, but like I said - analog signals come in great with my antenna on my TV. Digital signals always cut out and are super sensitive to any possible interference. Why?

I know this might be a little off topic but I know there are a lot of people in here who have one, my question is how do you download from the DVR? I figured out how to upload pictures but can I download recorded shows to USB?

Hope this helps. :)
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-hd-discussions/136813-external-hd-over-usb.html

Possibly, but I experience this with all of my OTA DTV signals. Granted my antenna is an indoor antenna, and I do have negative variables against me inlcuding walls and trees, but like I said - analog signals come in great with my antenna on my TV. Digital signals always cut out and are super sensitive to any possible interference. Why?

I've personally never seen an indoor antenna installation work "reliably" for any period of time at distances much further than 10 miles. At 14 miles, you're probably on the fringe of what I'd suggest is a usable range for using an indoor antenna, anyway. Especially if you have a lot of trees or tall buildings around you ... if you're antenna and TV are on the first floor ... if you're in a low lying area ... if your tuner/TV is an older one that does not deal with multipath issues as well as the newer ones. Lots of variables.

My personal suggestions - Make sure you're using good cable (RG6) that isn't frayed and take out any splitters or other hardware you may have between the cable and your antenna. If you're using a preamp, make sure it's a good one (I've used cruddy ones in the past that have actually made my signal quality worse). Even then, multipath issues sometimes cannot be overcome with an indoor antenna installation and you might need, at a minimum, a modest antenna in the attic.

Thanks Jeff! The news it gave me was dissapointing but exactly what I was looking for.

TWC added another ghost channel today..
SDB-MHD

What is it? Still none active yet.

This morning, TWC removed all of the 'ghost' HD channels except for the SDB-PPV HD channel. Looks like they're pretty busy prepping something to happen very soon as I've seen changes each day 4 days in a row. But no new active channels just yet.

News from TWC - KC. So maybe we won't see the new Switched Digital Video SDV channels until July.

__________________________

Channel Changes Effective June 3, 2008

* Channel 21, Jewelry Television, moved from 21 to 265.
* Channel 75, Style, moved from Channel 75 to Channel 21.
* Channel 399 HD Pay-Per-View, moved from Channel 399 to Channel 999.

Channel Changes Coming July 3, 2008

* HD Theater will move from Channel 1500 to 1000.
* TNT HD will move from Channel 1460 to 1032.
* National Geographic HD will move from Channel 1461 to 1056.
* History HD will move from Channel 1462 to 1069.
* FSN Midwest HD will move from Channel 1496 to 1059.
* ESPN HD will move from Channel 1497 to 1033.
* ESPN 2 HD will move from Channel 1498 to 1034.
* A&E HD will move from Channel 1499 to 1035.
* HBO HD will move from Channel 1700 to 1300.
* Cinemax HD will move from Channel 1720 to 1320.
* Showtime HD will move from Channel 1740 to 1340.
* Starz HD will move from Channel 1760 to 1360.

Why the Changes?

The channel realignment process is designed primarily to create room to offer our complete channel lineup in a 100% all-digital format as well as to offer additional HD programming. Better picture quality and additional HD programming, including both HD On Demand and new free HD channels in the near future, are driving these changes.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/KansasCity/Programming/ChannelChanges.html

BTW, TWC has a channel request form here...
https://secure.twckc.com/chrequest/chanRequest.asp

I've asked for Science, Discovery, SciFi, Animal Planet and TLC.

This morning, TWC removed all of the 'ghost' HD channels except for the SDB-PPV HD channel. Looks like they're pretty busy prepping something to happen very soon as I've seen changes each day 4 days in a row. But no new active channels just yet.

The channels weren't removed, just moved to the 1000s

MHD is now active!! But the others don't appear to be yet. But yay, more coming!

I am seeing MHD also, but none of the others are in the 1000s or 1800s, live or not.

Good more HD Channels coming soon for TWCKC but hope also SD ones to.
I hope Comcast does more changes coming up.
MHD is also has VH1 programming on it.
CW has Local News from 7am to 9am only on Weekdays and no other Newscast yet.

ABC is 83-6, HGTV HD is 123-10, Food HD is 123-11.

ABC isn't on 83-6 that is the CW, which broadcasts ABC news, but it's not ABC. ABC is actually on 101-6.

The channels weren't removed, just moved to the 1000s

MHD is showing in the guide, but isn't active. Guide shows data, but channel doesn't work. "MHD is currently unavailable. Please try again later."

Also, none of the other DVB channels are showing up, either in the 1000's or 1800's.

ABC isn't on 83-6 that is the CW, which broadcasts ABC news, but it's not ABC. ABC is actually on 101-6.

Yes, you're right. I saw the KMBC news on that channel and assumed it was ABC.

MHD is showing in the guide, but isn't active. Guide shows data, but channel doesn't work. "MHD is currently unavailable. Please try again later."

Also, none of the other DVB channels are showing up, either in the 1000's or 1800's.

Captain, MHD is now active and fully operational in Westport zipcode <sound of dilithium reactor spinning up>. All other 'ghost' channels in the 1800 range have disappeared, except HD PPV.

Edit: Have confirmed MHD is indeed an SDV channel. In the diag screen, primary tuner state is SDV. It is channel 1024.

Edit: Have confirmed MHD is indeed an SDV channel. In the diag screen, primary tuner state is SDV. It is channel 1024.

It took me about 4 tries to be able to tune in to an SDV channel. The first 3 times, it said the channel wasn't available. I'm concerned that any recordings for SDV channels may not work. Does anyone have any idea if the DVR will keep attempting to tune in an SDV channel when trying to record it?

Recording SDV channel works fine.

If you're using the cable company's DVR, you will be OK to record. If you're using TIVO, probaby NOT. We are waiting on the "dongle" which will make TIVO able to use SDV.

Don H.

I know we "should" be OK, but I can't even get the channel to work right now. It keeps saying "unavailable." It's working fine on another DVR in our house. I'm just wondering if recording SDV channels will be problematic if there are problems connecting to these channels.

Hopefully this is just some growing pains and it'll start working better.

I noticed that if you type in channel 1052 and 1054 you will get a screen for Food HD and HGTV HD, but they only show up on the QAM, but not the HD Box.

I noticed that if you type in channel 1052 and 1054 you will get a screen for Food HD and HGTV HD, but they only show up on the QAM, but not the HD Box.

Same here in Lee's Summit. I cant scroll through the channels and find them, but I can type them in. It is interested that is shows what program is supposed to be on, but eventually the screen pops up saying the channel is unavailable.

Remember that MHD was like that for a period of time, so maybe these two channels will be working soon.

So the Kansas City Brigade game is being televised by Fox Sports Net Midwest again this week, but Royals Baseball is on at the same time. How in the world are we supposed to see the Brigade game on TV in Kansas City? They don't even repeat it later in the schedule.

So the Kansas City Brigade game is being televised by Fox Sports Net Midwest again this week, but Royals Baseball is on at the same time. How in the world are we supposed to see the Brigade game on TV in Kansas City? They don't even repeat it later in the schedule.

KC Star said today that it was on Channel 62 OTA, but tape delayed.

Anybody having trouble with KSHB OTA lately? Seems like it's losing signal lock on my E* receivers (622 and 722) a lot lately. Signal varies from 90's down to 60's. Maybe it's the wind moving trees. I'll have to see if it's the same on 38. (How's that for answering my own question?)

Brad

Down here in the south side of Leawood I'm getting a strong singal on both 41 and 38 on my 722. (135th & Nall Ave. Area)

Must be the trees. I'm also having tree issues during windy days on the 129 sat.

Brad

The 129 sat is one weak bird. I struggle on any "bad" weather day to keep a lock on it.

BTW, TWC has a channel request form here...
https://secure.twckc.com/chrequest/chanRequest.asp

I've asked for Science, Discovery, SciFi, Animal Planet and TLC.

Good call, just did the same.

Food Network HD has just been enabled on TWC. You can't see in the guide or channel up/down, you have to directly punch in channel 1052. I've confirmed it is an SDV channel in the Diag screen.

So far there are MHD and FoodHD SDV. Looks like HGTV will be next as it's listed but not active yet - channel 1054. Once TWC tests these few SDV channels and is successfully rolled out, let's hope that add a slew at once. I've heard some markets instantly got 50HD channels after SDV got going.

SDV will finally give TWC an advantage over satellite.

When I had DISH installed last year, the installer put the channel on Food HD to show off the rich colors and contrasts. There are other HD channels that I would rather have, but Food HD does have a good picture. I have also been amazed at the picture quality on MHD with TWC.

Neither Food or MHD interest me much. It's the fact that SDV (switched digital video) is finally up an running on TWC, meaning they can add hundreds of HD channels w/out worrying about running out of bandwidth.

Neither Food or MHD interest me much. It's the fact that SDV (switched digital video) is finally up an running on TWC, meaning they can add hundreds of HD channels w/out worrying about running out of bandwidth.
SDV is good news unless you are using Cable Cards, like in my Tivo-HD. Still waiting on Tivo to release a fix/adapter to address this. Luckily Everest (Now SureWest) is not using SDV yet.

My DVR uses a CableCard and SDV works, but yeah, 3rd party CC boxes won't have SDV for a while. While Tivo blows away TWC's DVR, I'll take 50+ HD channels and a subpar DVR over Tivo with fewer HD channels.

I heard that TWC is adding Discovery Channel HD this month. A radio commercial during the Royals game this weekend confirmed that. Not Discovery Theatre but the real DIscovery Channel...oh I wish I wouldn't have went to DTV.

In local news....
Time Warner contacted me so I could let everybody know that their Navigator boxes will be running without any problems by the end of the month. Kidding! But it's time to free up some new digital space, and I think I've explained a few times, one analog channel can hold a bunch of digital channels — or at least, more than one.

So Time Warner will be moving Jewelry Television (yeah, me neither) and Style in order to free up one more analog channel and use the extra bandwidth for digital stuff. Such as HD. But first, Time Warner has to move all of the existing HDs around to make room for the potentially new HDs it will be adding, fingers crossed, any year now.

Comcast also announced changes to its Missouri and Kansas lineups: Metro Sports is moving from channel 44/MO and 68/KS to channel 258 everywhere so maybe TWCKC will do it to but it's a local channel so it should stay on Analog. CMT is moving from channel 56 to channel 146. Those new assignments are on the Digital Starter tier, where you can expect more analog channels to move for reasons I just explained. Again. A Comcast rep that I dialed at random said: "We are offering a free upgrade from Analog to Digital Starter for 12 months, plus 2 free additional digital converters for 12 months." After that, you'll just be watching TV on your computer screen anyway ...

In local news....


How about sourcing your quotes?

TWC Source:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/KansasCity/Programming/ChannelChanges.html

I heard that TWC is adding Discovery Channel HD this month. A radio commercial during the Royals game this weekend confirmed that. Not Discovery Theatre but the real DIscovery Channel...oh I wish I wouldn't have went to DTV.

Great news, thanks for the info.

Food Network HD has just been enabled on TWC. You can't see in the guide or channel up/down, you have to directly punch in channel 1052. I've confirmed it is an SDV channel in the Diag screen.

So far there are MHD and FoodHD SDV. Looks like HGTV will be next as it's listed but not active yet - channel 1054. Once TWC tests these few SDV channels and is successfully rolled out, let's hope that add a slew at once. I've heard some markets instantly got 50HD channels after SDV got going.

SDV will finally give TWC an advantage over satellite.

Are you still getting FoodHD? I tried it last night, but didn't get the channel.
Thanks.

How about sourcing your quotes?

The quote was found on TVBarn.com:
blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2008/06/in-local-news.html
(sorry, can't hyperlink yet)

Are you still getting FoodHD? I tried it last night, but didn't get the channel.
Thanks.

Yes, still works but I have to directly punch in the channel number, 1052. You're not able to move up/down channels and it's not in the guide yet.

HGTV HD is now active on channel 1054 TWC (in Westport). I've confirmed it is an SDV channel in the Diag screen.

Now if they would just add all of the Discovery channels.

No date yet for those Comcast changes.

HGTV HD is now active on channel 1054 TWC (in Westport). I've confirmed it is an SDV channel in the Diag screen.

Now if they would just add all of the Discovery channels.

Have you noticed any pixelization on the new channels? I noticed a bit on Food HD last night and quite a bit during a show on MHD two nights ago.

Hopefully this is just a growing pain and they are working out the kinks!

Mike

Have you noticed any pixelization on the new channels? I noticed a bit on Food HD last night and quite a bit during a show on MHD two nights ago.


I do. But I also have it on ESPN2HD, Mojo, MaxHD and a couple SD channels in the 200-230 range, so it might be a bigger problem that I'm having.

[QUOTE=xenophonite;14070801]HGTV HD is now active on channel 1054 TWC (in Westport). I've confirmed it is an SDV channel in the Diag screen.
QUOTE]

HGTV is active downtown. Now to see how much is actually HD. The stretched commercials and programs are terrible.

Are you still getting FoodHD? I tried it last night, but didn't get the channel.
Thanks.

Have you noticed any pixelization on the new channels? I noticed a bit on Food HD last night and quite a bit during a show on MHD two nights ago.

Hopefully this is just a growing pain and they are working out the kinks!

Mike

More than half the content isn't recorded with HD cameras. The quality can only be as good as the camera it was recored with.

Have you noticed any pixelization on the new channels? I noticed a bit on Food HD last night and quite a bit during a show on MHD two nights ago.

Hopefully this is just a growing pain and they are working out the kinks!

Mike

Well, HGTV and FoodHD are just stretched or widescreen 480i, so i just notice the bad picture quality from that.

On MHD I have been looking for pixelation but haven't really noticed any. Frankly, i think it's one of the better HD quality stations we have now, up there with UniversalHD and HDNet. It's certainly not exhibiting the horrible pixelation from Comcast-like bitstarved feeds.

Yay, TWC just added Discovery HD channel on 1045.

Well, HGTV and FoodHD are just stretched or widescreen 480i, so i just notice the bad picture quality from that.

On MHD I have been looking for pixelation but haven't really noticed any. Frankly, i think it's one of the better HD quality stations we have now, up there with UniversalHD and HDNet. It's certainly not exhibiting the horrible pixelation from Comcast-like bitstarved feeds.

Not everything on Food and HGTV is in HD. Some is stretched content and some is HD. DISH was the same way when I left them.

On MHD I have been looking for pixelation but haven't really noticed any. Frankly, i think it's one of the better HD quality stations we have now, up there with UniversalHD and HDNet. It's certainly not exhibiting the horrible pixelation from Comcast-like bitstarved feeds.

The pixelation I'm getting isn't what you see from a bitstarved feed. It's noise/errors on the cable line. My error rate when I look at the diagnostic screen for the bad channels is some crazy exponential number. I don't understand why it's only on certain channels and everything else comes through crystal clear though. And neither does TWC...

Anyway, the four new channels all say "currently unavailable please try again later" now for me.

The pixelation I'm getting isn't what you see from a bitstarved feed. It's noise/errors on the cable line. My error rate when I look at the diagnostic screen for the bad channels is some crazy exponential number. I don't understand why it's only on certain channels and everything else comes through crystal clear though. And neither does TWC...

Anyway, the four new channels all say "currently unavailable please try again later" now for me.

I had the same problem "currently unavailable" until I reset my box. All worked fine after that.

I had the same problem "currently unavailable" until I reset my box. All worked fine after that.

This may be a novice question, but is there a way to reset the box without unplugging it. I have the same problem. I get MHD and Discovery HD fine, but Food HD and HGTV HD still show unavailable. When I unplug the box, the problem is still there.
Thanks.

Would love to see CNN, The Weather Channel and TLC added

This may be a novice question, but is there a way to reset the box without unplugging it. I have the same problem. I get MHD and Discovery HD fine, but Food HD and HGTV HD still show unavailable. When I unplug the box, the problem is still there.
Thanks.

Try going into Favorite Channel setup and set those up. Use FAV to change channels.

Comcast here doesn't have Weather Channel HD yet why would you think TWCKC would get it before Comcast does here?
whereishd.com
Could be where Comcast puts them if they add them here.
Qubo - 125
ion Life - 136
Bloomberg News 178 or 103
http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcast061608.htm

Yesterday, I emailed Everest customer service as to when we might be seeing new HD channels in the 1080p,16x9 format. I also told them if network bandwidth was an issue, there were many, many channels on their network which are useless and could be dropped, freeing up bandwidth, in favor of new HD channels.

Of course, I could be made available to make those decisions for them. :)

Wish we could pick ala carte what channels we want feed to our homes.

http://www.brucespringsteen.net/songs/57Channels.html

Here is Everest's response to my email request...

"We will be adding approximately 20 new HD channels, hopefully in Mid-July. At this time there are no television or cable stations that actually broadcast in 1080p, they are either 1080i or 720p. The only programming available in 1080p are Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs. Thank you for choosing Everest Connections and have a great weekend."

As a note, I am a happy camper with Everest. For years I was a Time Warner customer (before I had HD) and was glad when Everest service came to my neighborhood. Had many issues with Time Warner, the main one was the "pixelization"/slo-mo/stop action" I would get on their premium channels, HBO, etc.

The issue I have with Everest, they are no longer locally owned and have become an appendage of Surewest in Sacremento, Colli4nia. I wonder how responsive they will be to us, "out here on the perimeter".

http://music.yahoo.com/The-Doors/WASP-Texas-Radio-And-The-Big-Beat/lyrics/551345

Looks like TWC shut down the new channels for now.

Looks like TWC shut down the new channels for now.

None are in the guide, but they all work for me here in Lee's Summit. 1052 Food HD, 1045 Discovery HD and 1054 HGTV HD all work when typing in the channel manually.

None are in the guide, but they all work for me here in Lee's Summit. 1052 Food HD, 1045 Discovery HD and 1054 HGTV HD all work when typing in the channel manually.

yep. I noticed they were gone from the guide last night, but the channels are still there.

Anyone remember what # MHD was?

yep. I noticed they were gone from the guide last night, but the channels are still there.

Anyone remember what # MHD was?

1024

You can also go into Favorite Channel setup and the new channels appear. Set them up and then use the Fav button from then on.

Hmm, I can get to all of the new channels directly...but don't see them in my guide...

BTW, Sundance HD and NatGeo HD On Demand are now available via channel 1555.

Hmm, I can get to all of the new channels directly...but don't see them in my guide...

Because the channels aren't officially released yet. We are simply beta testers.

As of yesterday 148 Fuse and 164 IFC and still as of 10:30pm last night CMT was still on 56 as well as it new channel 147 and Metro Sports still on 68 and it's new channel 258 but maybe more chnages coming this week like Big Ten Network/SHOPNBC,Bloomberg News,Fox Movie Channel,More HD Channels and other Channels moving.
I know some of you Comcast user out their want to talk about the changes just happened this week besides me.

Some of the 1800's are working now, too...

1830 - Fuel (Works for a second, then goes black screen)
1831 - CSTV (Black Screen)
1832 - ESPN Classic (Works)
1833 - Tennis (SDB - Tennis is current unavailable, Please try again later)
1834 - NHL (Works)
1835 - NBA (To Receive This Channel, Call Customer Service screen)
1837 - PPV HD (SDB - TWC PPV HD is currently unavailable, Please try again later)

All of the 1000's work for me right now:

1024 = MHD HD
1045 - Discovery HD
1052 - Food HD
1054 - HGTV HD

The 1800 range channels show up for me but all show as currently unavailable (Westport/Plaza area). For the ones that work, can you confirm they are the HD versions?

The 1800 range channels show up for me but all show as currently unavailable (Westport/Plaza area). For the ones that work, can you confirm they are the HD versions?

Unfortunately, they were all 481i. No HD.

Yeah, some 1800 channels are now working for me. None are HD, but they are SDV.

I found this article on Time Warner KC "In the News" Section. Hopefully, more HD by the end of the month!

http://www.timewarnercable.com/InvestorRelations/PressReleases/TWCPressReleaseDivDetail.ashx?PRID=2295&MarketID=22

TIME WARNER CABLE ADDS NEW HD CHANNELS


Also Prepares To Relocate HD Channels To Make Them Easier To Find



Kansas City, MO -



Time Warner Cable has added new High Definition (HD) channels and soon will relocate other HD channels to make them easier to find.

Some of the newly launched HD channels include HGTV HD (channel 1054), Food Network HD (channel 1052), and Discovery HD (1045). Also new to the HD lineup is MHD (channel 1024) which features concert series, events and original productions from MTV, VH1 and CMT. Time Warner Cable anticipates adding more new HD channels by the end of the month.

“As the home of free HD, we are pleased to add more exciting HD programs to the roster of High Definition programs our customers receive at no additional cost,” says Damon Porter, Time Warner Cable Director of Public Affairs. “Time Warner Cable’s HD delivers programming in a widescreen format with a crystal clear picture that’s up to five times the resolution of Standard Definition TV. In addition, HD programming’s Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound creates a rich theater-quality experience right in our customers’ homes.”

“As the HD leaders, we’re not only adding more HD content to enhance our customers viewing experience. We’re also making it quicker and easier for them to locate the HD versions of their favorite shows,” Porter says.

Beginning July 3, Time Warner Cable will reorganize its channels to make it simple to find the HD versions of programs. Viewers will be able to locate the HD version of their favorite channels by adding either 10, 12 or 13 in front of the Standard Definition channel number. For instance, TNT currently is found on channel 32. Its HD counterpart will move from channel 1460 to 1032 to make it easier to find.

The HD versions of channels included in the Basic/CPST Tier will be found in the 1000’s. Channels from the Digital Tier that are broadcast in HD will be located in the 1200’s while channels from the Premium Tier will be found in the 1300’s. Broadcast channels delivered in HD will remain in the 1400’s. Video On Demand (VOD) in HD will be located in the 1500’s.

Customers will be able to access all HD versions of the networks included in their current programming tier.

Some viewer favorites and their new channel numbers – beginning July 3 -- include HD Theater channel 1000, National Geographic HD channel 1056, History HD channel
1069, FSN Midwest HD 1059, ESPN HD 1033, ESPN 2 HD 1034, A&E HD 1035, HBO HD 1300, Cinemax HD 1320, Showtime HD 1340, and Starz HD 1360.

“We are dedicated to bringing Time Warner Cable customers a broad selection of HD programming delivered in a customer friendly easy-to-use format. The addition of these HD channels and the reorganization of our channel lineup will make it even easier to enjoy the vivid ‘you are there’ HD experience,” Porter says.

In the Kansas City area, Time Warner Cable (NYSE: TWC) offers the most advanced cable television, high-speed Internet service, Road Runner and Digital Phone to more than 600,000 homes and businesses in the seven-county Kansas City metropolitan area. Time Warner Cable employs 1,000 people in its various Kansas City locations and provides free service to more than 550 schools. Time Warner Cable Metro Sports is Kansas City’s only 24 hour all sports network. Time Warner Cable Business Class offers a full complement of business communications tools to small and medium-sized businesses and enterprise-sized companies. Its data, voice, video and security solutions are enhanced by award-winning customer service and local support teams. Time Warner Cable is on the Web at www.twckc.com and www.kcondemand.com.

Olathe,KS Vote and Travel and Lesiure are Interactive Channels but deosn't look like to me just plan On Demand Channel Links.

Time Warner has moved around many of the QAM-Clear channels. My TV is picking up several digital channels when doing a scan but when I try to watch them, it just says "no signal". Looks like Fox is one of those "no signal" channels.

There is one new channel that is in Spanish I believe, and HGTV and FOOD are still available but have odd channel numbers, 110-5445 and 109-5444.

Has anyone noticed a deterioration in the TWC HD channels within the last week? On most HD channels, esp. ABC, ESPN and FSMW the screen keeps pausing for a split second, this never happened before and has been pretty constant for the last week or so. It just freezes very slightly and then returns to normal, it's quite annoying when watching well, anything.

Is anyone else having trouble receiving the new HD channels on TWC? Whenever, I turn it to one of the channels, the screen goes black for about a minute and then it says it is not available.

I could not access Discovery last night...said not available. Probably still doing that beta test...

It appears the 4 new HD channels (MHD, HGTV, Discovery, Food) are officially released in Westport as they now show up in the guide and can be DVR'd.

It appears the 4 new HD channels (MHD, HGTV, Discovery, Food) are officially released in Westport as they now show up in the guide and can be DVR'd.

Last night all of the sdv/sdb channels would not work for me. I looked in the diagnostics screen and the last error for sdv/sdb was "No SDV Bandwidth". I checked this morning and they are still not working.

Growing pains, I guess!

I imagine it will take through the end of they year for them to get SDV properly tuned. They apparently have to manage SDV by neighborhood. I'd rather they release this not completely tuned than to not have the channels at all.

MoJo on the standard broadcast HD section was shutoff yesterday in my area. Might be in preparation for more SDV channels. I did see MoJo appear in the SDV section for a couple days then it disappeared. Now that they shutoff the broadcast channel....

Has anyone noticed better reception of late on 41.1? It seems like for the first time I get consistent reception from them (from 60 miles away), but it could be the warmer weather (better tropo ducting). When Fox 4.1 upped their power, 41.1 became the hardest signal for my D* HR20 to pull in, but perhaps KSHB upped their power when they went to the HD newscast?

MoJo on the standard broadcast HD section was shutoff yesterday in my area. Might be in preparation for more SDV channels. I did see MoJo appear in the SDV section for a couple days then it disappeared. Now that they shutoff the broadcast channel....

MoJo is back on now and they switched it to an SDV channel (confirmed in Diag screen). This should allow them to add a bunch more SDV channels soon.

MoJo is back on now and they switched it to an SDV channel (confirmed in Diag screen). This should allow them to add a bunch more SDV channels soon.

I am ready for July 3rd to get here! Hopefully a variety of new HD channels will be added on that date, when TWC moves around various other channels.

This will be a good thing for TWC. The competition (at least DISH/DirecTV) have far better choices in HD than TWC.

Now that TWC has SDV going, they technically should be able to offer more channels than satellite. DirecTV is already dumping some low watched HD channels to make room for new ones coming, so it appears they already have capacity issues. TWC should be able to have 500+ HD channels, but they can only put less watched channels on SDV (up to 500 simultaneous viewers per neighborhood if I understand right).

... and what DirecTV HD channels would those be? I believe if this was the case DBSTalk would be in melt-down mode.

DirecTV is already dumping some low watched HD channels to make room for new ones coming, so it appears they already have capacity issues.

Don't you mean Dish?

Don't you mean Dish?

Yes, he must be referring to the VOOM channels that E* recently took down.

If he is, he is wrong. The Voom Channels were taken down because Rainbow didn't keep their end of the contract by updating the Voom channels with new content. Dish decided to pull down the channels as breach of contract. They're not having capacity problems, in fact, according to several threats on DBSTalk E* has plenty of capacity and is even launching a new satellite in July.

Just so you know that Starz's and Encore Channels on Comcast here have changed names to like Starz1 and not anymore like Starz Kids and Family.
Still have 2 channels of CMT,Metro Sports meaning the Analog ones of them should be gone but not yet and so should 97 and probley before the end of the Summer we will have 2 thru what ever as Analog channel numbers meaning Local Goverment and other channels will be moved to the Digital side open space for more SD like BTN,Bloomberg News,Fox Movie Channel,ShopNBC and HD like Weather,ESPNNEWS,NHL Network,Fox Business Channels.
Check out comcastdigitalworld.com and right know nothing for Comcast MO/Olathe.
183 is for RDFTV.

TWC's 1800's channels are now gone here in Lee's Summit. However, I the regular channel locations for Fuse, Hockey Network, etc, that were in the 1800's are now SDV.

Around the corner from me, AT&T is installing UVerse at a neigbhor's house. First one that I've seen in my part of Lee's Summit.

Don't you mean Dish?

Yeah, I meant Dish. They got rid of Monster, Kungfu and other channels. TWC has contracts with these so may able to carry them.

TWCKC channels going SDV August 20th (http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2008/06/time-warner-giv.html):

Video Rola 157
Canal Sur 159
HITN 167
EWTN 190
TBN 191
The Word 192
American Life 193
Inspiration 194
Inspiration Life 195
The Gospel Music Channel 196
Daystar 197
Family Net 198
Outdoor Channel 202
G4 216
Biography 217
History International 218
Military Channel 224
Investigation Discovery 225
Planet Green 226
Bloomberg 227
CNBC World 228
Fox Business 230
C-SPAN 3 232
Gameshow 240
Wam 242
The N 245
Boomerang 246
Fuse 250
Ovation 251
TV One 253
Sleuth 255
VH-1 Classic 258
Fine Living 260
Lifetime Real Women 261
BBC America 263
Fit TV 264
Sundance 285
IFC 287
HBO Signature W 305
HBO Family W 307
HBO Comedy W 309
HBO Latino W 313
Showtime Too 342
SHOSHCS 344

I show the following TWC HD channels now tunable but not active yet...

1014 TBS HD
1023 Science HD
1024 Music HD (does work)
1040 The Learning Channel
1044 CNN HD
1045 Discovery HD (works)
1050 Travel HD
1055 Golf HD
1057 Animal Planet HD
1060 Fox News HD
1202 Outdoor HD
1217 Biography HD
1226 Planet Green HD

You can tune to these but they aren't active yet.

Exciting changes at TWC! Sounds like all kinds of room is going to open up soon when they transition some of the lessor channels to SDV/SDB.

I too see the new channels, but they aren't viewable here in Lee's Summit. I wonder (hope) that this will be to add more HD as the switch to SDV/SDB progresses!

BTW, the channels in 1200 range are NOT SDV according to the diag screen.

Even Comcast here can't added that many HD Channels that fast so maybe this month so more HD or even more SD channels coming for Comcast people.

My cable box now says "e-13", started about 1:45 am. Anybody know what this is about? Could it be something to do with the changes in the channel lineup? I read in another thread that this is an update code.

My cable box now says "e-13", started about 1:45 am. Anybody know what this is about? Could it be something to do with the changes in the channel lineup? I read in another thread that this is an update code.

Both of my HD DVR's say "b092" and wont turn on. Called TWC and there was a message about a software download. The software download was only supposed to be a 20 minute issue, but my boxes have displayed the same code and been off since I first noticed at 430am. I am on hold now...

Finally hung up and just unplugged my box and all is well now.

All of the new channels (foxnews hd, cnn hd, etc, etc) are now working! Also, 1204 - ESPN News HD is now active, too.

Cool, all work now. They've also upgraded Navigator to 2.4.10_11.

...and they're all showing up in the guide, too!

They've also added Versus HD, ESPN News HD and Travel HD.

Problems with my box tonight. After having to reboot my 8300HDC this morning to get the update to take, the picture froze up this evening. I rebooted, but received the dreaded E13 error message and then the b092 error message. I guess I'll be rebooting again...

Does anybody know how long it takes for Time Warner to get a neighborhood system up and running after they bury the cable?

I just moved into a new subdivision in Gardner and TW buried cable to my house several days ago. I called them and asked when I could have TV and internet service. My address was not in their system yet so they sent out a work order or something. Apparently the representatives were told by whoever processed the work order that it would be ready by the end of the year.

WTF? They can only give me a 6 month time frame? They've already lost the business of the other homes in the neighborhood, I would think they could be a little faster than that if they want to keep people from going to satellite. I only want to go with TW for the faster internet service than DSL.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out what I'm going to do for internet service. My fiance is taking some online classes so it's pretty important to get it ASAP. I'm not very excited to sign up for DSL from Embarq...

Long time reader first time poster here. I live in south overland park (159th and metcalf area) and I'm now receiving all of the new HD channels as well.

The main problem i'm having now is the speed of the guide with the new software push that went through the other night. My guide is so unresponsive now. Also when i push channel up or channel down on my remote it takes like 6 seconds for the channel to actually change. Don't get me wrong I love having all the extra HD channels due to SDV but the time it takes to do simple functions such as changing channels is ridiculous.

Is anyone else experiencing these issues?

What model cable box? It only takes a second or two on mine.

Long time reader first time poster here. I live in south overland park (159th and metcalf area) and I'm now receiving all of the new HD channels as well.

The main problem i'm having now is the speed of the guide with the new software push that went through the other night. My guide is so unresponsive now. Also when i push channel up or channel down on my remote it takes like 6 seconds for the channel to actually change. Don't get me wrong I love having all the extra HD channels due to SDV but the time it takes to do simple functions such as changing channels is ridiculous.

Is anyone else experiencing these issues?

I had the same problem on my SA 8300HDC for a little while after the update. A few hours later, all was well.

I know this is a little off topic, but I bought a couple Digital converter boxes to pull in over the air signals from a couple of spare tv's in my house and noticed that I get guide data for all the local channels except for 38 and 41. Does KSHB and KMCI not sent out guide data OTA?

What model cable box? It only takes a second or two on mine.

I have the SA 8300HDC but it looks like everything is fine now. I did another reboot and that did the trick.

I know this is a little off topic, but I bought a couple Digital converter boxes to pull in over the air signals from a couple of spare tv's in my house and noticed that I get guide data for all the local channels except for 38 and 41. Does KSHB and KMCI not sent out guide data OTA?

You're perfectly 'on topic,' actually. The thread is titled 'Local HDTV Info and Reception > Kansas City, MO - HDTV' ... so you're good.

I used to get EPG from both KSHB and KCMI, I believe. I have had cable for about a year and don't have any hardware connected to check at this point.

Anyone else?

I know this is a little off topic, but I bought a couple Digital converter boxes to pull in over the air signals from a couple of spare tv's in my house and noticed that I get guide data for all the local channels except for 38 and 41. Does KSHB and KMCI not sent out guide data OTA?

Yes, they do. Don't know why you would be having a problem.

Brad

I had my LCD TV at work today hooked up with an antenna and on 41.1 and 38.1 it only said "DTV Program" and not the program that was airing. All the other locals had program data. 41.2 had "Weather Plus" or "Local Weather" or something for the program title.

I have noticed hit and miss guide info in general, particularly lacking on weekends. KSHB announced last night that they are now constucting a new HD studio, which might be why they are not keeping it up lately. Interestingly, according to engineering trades, the FCC recently reworded the program guide guidelines, making it clear this is a requirement and not a suggestion.

For me, the roller coaster ride of audio levels on 41's digital channel during some newscasts has chased me away many times. February, '09 can't come soon enough for me. Then broadcasters can finish tweaking and devote all their time to the digital signal.

August the 8 is when their new set will be here.
So maybe that same day they add RTN Affliate for the KC area we just hope but Scripps hasen't annouced yet or Meredith's new channel here will be it.
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2008/07/07/daily12.html?f=et65&ana=e_du 18 new HD Chanels coming in 30 days.

I am looking forward to RTN. I took a look at their programming online. The show Emergency! was a wonderful show in my youth. Hopefully it will be added soon.

It disappeared in Vista Media Center for me as well. I noticed it after I added 5.2. I attempted to manually add 4.1, and if I remember correctly, it asked me to input the frequency the channel uses. I didn't have to do that for any of the other channels I added. I didn't know what to put in so I still don't have it. I thought it was just my computer but now it sounds like the listings provider has excluded it from the listings.

Was curious if anyone has figured out yet how to set up WDAF in Vista Media Center.

I live in Olathe and have Comcast. This week, workers from Everest began laying cable in my neighborhood, hung a tag on my door and even put the little flags in my yard. What has been the experience of others when competition suddenly comes along? Does the current cable company usually drop their prices automatically...or do they wait till you call and tell them you're leaving for Everest before they offer a lower rate?

I live in Olathe and have Comcast. This week, workers from Everest began laying cable in my neighborhood, hung a tag on my door and even put the little flags in my yard. What has been the experience of others when competition suddenly comes along? Does the current cable company usually drop their prices automatically...or do they wait till you call and tell them you're leaving for Everest before they offer a lower rate?
they rarely cut prices all on their own. However, if you call in and say that you're going to Everest, you should expect that they'll at *least* match prices, and if you can point out Comcast's inferior services vs Everest, you should expect (and demand) sharper discounts.

I live in Olathe and have Comcast. This week, workers from Everest began laying cable in my neighborhood, hung a tag on my door and even put the little flags in my yard. What has been the experience of others when competition suddenly comes along? Does the current cable company usually drop their prices automatically...or do they wait till you call and tell them you're leaving for Everest before they offer a lower rate?

Olathebob,

Where are you in Olathe? I am near 143rd and Pflummn, which is right next to the border of OP.

I'm just southwest of College and Pflumm...the northernmost part of Olathe.

I show the following TWC HD channels now tunable but not active yet...

1014 TBS HD
1023 Science HD
1024 Music HD (does work)
1040 The Learning Channel
1044 CNN HD
1045 Discovery HD (works)
1050 Travel HD
1055 Golf HD
1057 Animal Planet HD
1060 Fox News HD
1202 Outdoor HD
1217 Biography HD
1226 Planet Green HD

You can tune to these but they aren't active yet.

I live in Overland Park and the channels are tunable, but most still not active. Anybody else still see this?

Thanks,
Mike

I live in Overland Park and the channels are tunable, but most still not active. Anybody else still see this?

Thanks,
Mike


All of those channels are working here in Lee's Summit.

All of those channels are working here in Lee's Summit.

And in Mission

I live in Overland Park and the channels are tunable, but most still not active. Anybody else still see this?

Thanks,
Mike

They've been active downtown for a week.

Was curious if anyone has figured out yet how to set up WDAF in Vista Media Center.

Adding it in manually using the Media Center interface, you will need to enter the physical frequency the channel is being broadcast on. WDAF-DT is currently being broadcast on physical channel 34.

If using the Media Center interface doesn't work, you can add it by hand into the atscprefs.xml file in your settings folders. I've done this several times in more than one broadcast market and it works if you know what you're doing. This thread on another website will give you good information on how to do that -

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/1/119745/ShowThread.aspx

Was curious if anyone has figured out yet how to set up WDAF in Vista Media Center.

And as an aside - Other applications like BeyondTV and SageTV not only offer WDAF-DT w/o this hassle, but they also offer guide information for all the multicast channels in the area.

... something to consider.

I live in Overland Park and the channels are tunable, but most still not active. Anybody else still see this?

Thanks,
Mike

I've not had any problems getting any of these channels since I noticed them active last week. May be time for a hard reboot of the box, though. Not sure where you're located, but I'm at 95th and Switzer.

http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/698913.html about Everestkc
Good to see them coming to Olathe because AT&T U-Verse/S. Dish is it's only competitors because FIOS isn't here yet and TWCKC doesn't want to expand into Olathe.
You get Interactive TV with it but no Metro Sports that Comcast has on 258 and still on 68 to.
More HD Channels coming to AT&T U-Verse.
224 Showtime Too HD and 220 TMC HD probley where Comcast here will put them when they add them.
At least on Comcast Website Olathe,KS Lineup is almost right as the one on the TV just missing 97 KCPT/another On Demand Channel Link before Starz Channels/850 Security Community Information,needs to get rid of 56 CMT and 68 Metro Sports just because they will be gone at sometime before Febuary on Analog and also noticed Channel 1 showing other Channels like Howard Stern on Demand and WWE 24/7 On Demand.

http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/698913.html about Everestkc
Good to see them coming to Olathe because AT&T U-Verse/S. Dish is it's only competitors because FIOS isn't here yet and TWCKC doesn't want to expand into Olathe.FIOS won't be coming here for a long, long time. Verizon doesn't even provide wireline service around here...

http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/698913.html about Everestkc
Good to see them coming to Olathe because AT&T U-Verse/S. Dish is it's only competitors because FIOS isn't here yet and TWCKC doesn't want to expand into Olathe.
You get Interactive TV with it but no Metro Sports that Comcast has on 258 and still on 68 to.
More HD Channels coming to AT&T U-Verse.
224 Showtime Too HD and 220 TMC HD probley where Comcast here will put them when they add them.
At least on Comcast Website Olathe,KS Lineup is almost right as the one on the TV just missing 97 KCPT/another On Demand Channel Link before Starz Channels/850 Security Community Information,needs to get rid of 56 CMT and 68 Metro Sports just because they will be gone at sometime before Febuary on Analog and also noticed Channel 1 showing other Channels like Howard Stern on Demand and WWE 24/7 On Demand.
It also looks like Everest/Surewest will be adding 18 more HD channels over the next month.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/09/surewest-adding-18-new-hd-channels-in-kansas/

Interesting that SureWest is expanding into Olathe - they don't even serve all of the cities they started in (Shawnee & O.P.) including MY house! I would like to have them for internet service, at least, because I won't give a dime to TWC. (I can't get ATT DSL where I live, either, so I'm still on dial-up).

Brad

I discovered that AT&T U-verse added Sci-Fi HD, USA HD, and Bravo HD to my guide this morning and the channels are active.

I suffered with Comcast advanced basic and lost my internet connection every Friday evening. I fired Comcast on a weekend this spring when my daughter could not take a college exam online. Free at last, free at last....

I have a very short cable run from the AT&T box to my house, so the connection is flawless. Only one of my co-workers had trouble getting AT&T because he was at the extreme maximum distance from the AT&T box.

So any of you in Olathe that have been wanting to jump ship, but did not because AT&T did not have Sci-fi, now is the time.....

The last season of Battlestar Gallactica in HD, sweet......

I discovered that AT&T U-verse added Sci-Fi HD, USA HD, and Bravo HD to my guide this morning and the channels are active.

I suffered with Comcast advanced basic and lost my internet connection every Friday evening. I fired Comcast on a weekend this spring when my daughter could not take a college exam online. Free at last, free at last....

I have a very short cable run from the AT&T box to my house, so the connection is flawless. Only one of my co-workers had trouble getting AT&T because he was at the extreme maximum distance from the AT&T box.

So any of you in Olathe that have been wanting to jump ship, but did not because AT&T did not have Sci-fi, now is the time.....

The last season of Battlestar Gallactica in HD, sweet......
Hopefully you also have CNBC HD, according to this article that AT&T Uverse added USA HD, Bravo HD, SciFI HD and CNBC HD.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/11/atandt-goes-live-with-4-new-u-verse-hd-channels/

Yep... CNBC-HD on 1216

Might report at the UverseUsers.com-Kansas about the new HD Channels.
HDL News could Headline News.
TWCKC keeps doing changes but the others don't yet.

Anyone notice that TWC keeps changing the date for the channel realignment? The web site now lists July 24 as the date that things will move around.

First it was July 3, 2008. Then it was July 9th and then July 15th. Now, its the 24th. I wonder what the holdup is? Possibly adding more HD?

I've noticed too. Yesterday it was still saying the 15th. I'm willing to wait if there's more HD coming.

Anyone notice that TWC keeps changing the date for the channel realignment? The web site now lists July 24 as the date that things will move around.

First it was July 3, 2008. Then it was July 9th and then July 15th. Now, its the 24th. I wonder what the holdup is? Possibly adding more HD?
Possibly adding more HD? (sigh) Call me skeptical ... but I'd have an easier time believing that the suits are trying to shove this down to the customer before engineering has all the bugs worked out.

My guess ... technical issues. That I'd believe.

I think the stations engineers read this site more than we think. It looks like KSHB fixed the audio issues during their news. With Fox 4 now officially sold (as of yesterday) hopefully they will migrate to HD newscasts shortly. I just wonder who will be next, WDAF or KCTV?


Any station engineers out there have any additional input?

Time Warner has some 1800 series channels again...

1810 SDB-C Span 2
1811 SDB-HDL News FC
1813 SDB-HGTV FC
1814 SDB-WeathCh FC
1815 SDB-FOOD TV FC
1816 SDB-FIRE CH FC
1817 SDB-NHL/MLB 1
1818 SDB-Disney FC
1837 PPV HD

Like before when the first set of 1800's channels were added, nothing works and the blue "channel not available" screen comes up. They are not in the guide and you can only get there by adding it to your favorites or manually typing in the channel number.

Not sure what the "FC" means in the descriptions.

Mike in Lee's Summit

HDL News could Headline News.
TWCKC keeps doing changes but the others don't yet.

They all seem to be repeats of other channels, except maybe the Fire Ch station. I wonder what the "FC" stands for? All have program data and none appear to be HD.

At least TWC is doing something, I agree. DISH and DirecTV are adding HD left and right. TWC has to do something to keep up. Hopefully in August, when a lot of the lessor known channels move to SDB/SDV, they will add even more HD.

Mike in Lee's Summit

Family & Children Package maybe? I always wondered about those when I had TWC.

http://dot2network.com/national/home-KCTV5-doesn't know what Digital Sub Channel it will be on yet.

I believe the last I heard was the .2 Network would be on KSMO-DT and most likely in HD since My Network TV doesn't produce anything in HD. the .2 Network would probably get higher ratings than MNTV and I wonder if they would put it on 62.1 instead of 62.2?

Whenever they're ready to get it going, my TiVo is ready to start recording more stuff.

I would think that the dot2 network would be on 62.2, not 62.1, since it is after the ".2" Network :-)

I have two HDTV's in my house hooked up to OTA - one only OTA and the other cable and OTA. I look forward to RTN and dot2 coming to KC, soon.

I live in Olathe and have not been able to pick up ABC (9.1). I'm using a Phillips MANT310, I tried the Radio Shack 15-2186 indoor/outdoor antenna and was not able to pick it up either. We live around Blackbob and 119th street. I get all the other local stations perfectly fine other than PBS. Is this normal for the area unless I upgrade to an outdoor antenna? Thanks in advance.

I live in Olathe and have not been able to pick up ABC (9.1). I'm using a Phillips MANT310, I tried the Radio Shack 15-2186 indoor/outdoor antenna and was not able to pick it up either. We live around Blackbob and 119th street. I get all the other local stations perfectly fine other than PBS. Is this normal for the area unless I upgrade to an outdoor antenna? Thanks in advance.

I am at 143rd and Pflumm and 9.1 and 19.1 can sometime be a challenge to get. Especially 9.1 (KMBC-DT) because it is the only VHF DT channel. I also have an OTA upstairs, and get 9.1 much better than downstairs. I hope this helps. Oh, and all of my antenna's are indoor.

I live in Olathe and have not been able to pick up ABC (9.1). I'm using a Phillips MANT310, I tried the Radio Shack 15-2186 indoor/outdoor antenna and was not able to pick it up either. We live around Blackbob and 119th street. I get all the other local stations perfectly fine other than PBS. Is this normal for the area unless I upgrade to an outdoor antenna? Thanks in advance.
I have the same problem just that i'm in South KC (64138). What I do know is that KMBC-DT broadcasts on channel 7 which is VHF and for some reason makes it harder or near impossible for rabbit ears and pretty much any indoor antenna to pick it up. Even my outdoor VHF/UHF ariel pointed towards the transmitter has a hard time picking up a consistent signal in which it usually wavers from 10% to 40%. Any advise guys?

Thanks guys. That explains why i'm having so much trouble picking it up. D* is installing HD this weekend so I should be fine other than when storms blow through. Is it just me or does KSHD 41.1 have the best OTA picture?

I live in Olathe and have not been able to pick up ABC (9.1). I'm using a Phillips MANT310, I tried the Radio Shack 15-2186 indoor/outdoor antenna and was not able to pick it up either. We live around Blackbob and 119th street. I get all the other local stations perfectly fine other than PBS. Is this normal for the area unless I upgrade to an outdoor antenna? Thanks in advance.

I live in the same area you do and also can't pick up KMBC-DT on an indoor antenna. I also have an outdoor antenna connected to a D* dish mounted on my roof that picks up all of the local DT channels, including KMBC, without any problems.