Read this: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92019

Thanks Bug! Ordered.

Skid

KMBC is broadcasting on a second digital subchannel now. The first one is weather. The second one appears to just show full screen versions of programming.
Comcast doesn't have it yet.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/uberse102708.htm Includes FSN Kansas City HD.

KMBC is broadcasting on a second digital subchannel now. The first one is weather. The second one appears to just show full screen versions of programming.

Are you referring to 9-3? If so, that's actually a subchannel on KCWE-DT on 31. It's a temporary solution to the problem of people having issues receiving the signal on 7 until they relocate their digital signal to channel 29 after KCWE analog goes away.

- Trip

Is anyone else on TW having problems with Fox-HD tearing and pixelating very badly? It's unwatchable in my house on both DVR's, after a re-boot. It started yesterday afternoon, but both last night's World Series game and tonight's game are virtually unwatchable due to the problems. Is anyone else having similar problems?

Here in Leawood on TWC near 135th & Nall my FOX HD is fine. Both on my DVR and through QAM-Clear. Maybe you have a weak signal?

Thanks! That's what I was afraid of.

I had the same problem with KCTV HD about 2 months ago. It cleared up on its own before I called TWC.

Apologies if this is a pretty basic question... Everest subscriber - have a dtv/dvr box for primary television; however, looking to add hdtv in bedroom with integrated QAM tuner. Does Everest/Surewest offer qam hd programming without the requirement of a set top box for such a set? Thanks in advance for the insight!
JBlow - You do not need a STB to get Clear QAM from Everest. I believe if you search the thread you'll get a listing of all the channels available (which are quite a few, including ESPN HD which I like).

For being KC's HD Leader, putting the Today show back down to SD for a freaking Amber alert is pretty bush league if you ask me. C'mon you can do WX graphics in HD, so why not use them to run these Amber Alerts?

C'mon Scripps, its no wonder you're in 3rd place!

TNT HD and ESPN HD have both been black for me since at least Friday on TWC in Brookside. Anyone else having this problem? Everything else is fine.

I watched Monday Night Football on ESPN HD last night for a bit... so I didn't have a problem. Who knows with TWC though.

Are you referring to 9-3? If so, that's actually a subchannel on KCWE-DT on 31. It's a temporary solution to the problem of people having issues receiving the signal on 7 until they relocate their digital signal to channel 29 after KCWE analog goes away.

- Trip
What's odd, though, is that my parents-in-law's 9-1 and 9-2 OTA in Independence disappeared when 9-3 went live. They WERE getting the channels and now we can't get them tuned in. My f-i-l's favorite news is KMBC and now he can't watch in HD. It really sucks.

What's odd, though, is that my parents-in-law's 9-1 and 9-2 OTA in Independence disappeared when 9-3 went live. They WERE getting the channels and now we can't get them tuned in. My f-i-l's favorite news is KMBC and now he can't watch in HD. It really sucks.

Try tuning in to 7-1 and 7-2 and see if you get anything.

Nobody's got it yet on Digital Cable but when KCWE goes Full Power/DT they can just make the Digital Sub Channel something else like maybe This TV,Spanish Channel,24/7 Local News Channel,KMBC On Demand or so on.
7-3 would be good on Tuesday so from 6:30pm intill ABC Coverage is over Local Election Coverage can be on their and 7-2 won't miss new Expisodes at 7 and 8PM.
Now after 11-4-08 Elections On Demand Channel might be gone on Comcast.
Has heard what's replacing MJOJO HD in December on Comcast?

Nobody with cable will be getting 9.3. That would be pointless since you already have it on KMBC analog.

Try tuning in to 7-1 and 7-2 and see if you get anything.
Well, a channel re-scan didn't bring up 7-1 or 7-2 and, get this, their remote doesn't have a "-" key. I can't dial in digital channels unless they're already part of the scanned set. I think I'm going to have to find a universal remote to try it.

When you tune directly to an actual channel as 7 for 9.1, 9.2, you do not need to use a sub-channel number like 7.1. You simply select 7. If your tuner receives the signal, it will pick up the PSIP info and map to the virtual channels 9.1, 9.2. This is true for OTA and digital cable via QAM.

KSHB/KMCI suffers from extremely poor management. The equipment there is the cheapest you can buy. It's kind of like Scotty on Star Trek. Things are bypassed like a Christmas tree so they can't take too many bumps.

Also, they suffer from poor ratings so that's the reason for Weather Plus. They need to sell all of the advertising they can. They overkill their Master Control operators. They have to keep track of three stations at once. KSHB, KMCI, and WXPlus. If something goes wrong, it usually ends up in a rolling train wreak before it's all over.

As for their HD signals, "Yes" they are extremely weak. I live in the fringe band of reception for Kansas City. Even up on a hill with a 50' tower, large antenna, and preamplifier, I still suffer from pixeliation on their channels. All of the other KC channels come in great! For people who live in a low area, they don't get 41 or 38HD at all.

I worked for the station for over 13 years. I was one of their best operating engineers. Even my boss thought so. However, upstairs management fired me.
That shows you how much brains they have.

KSHB/KMCI suffers from extremely poor management. The equipment there is the cheapest you can buy. It's kind of like Scotty on Star Trek. Things are bypassed like a Christmas tree so they can't take too many bumps.

Also, they suffer from poor ratings so that's the reason for Weather Plus. They need to sell all of the advertising they can. They overkill their Master Control operators. They have to keep track of three stations at once. KSHB, KMCI, and WXPlus. If something goes wrong, it usually ends up in a rolling train wreak before it's all over.

As for their HD signals, "Yes" they are extremely weak. I live in the fringe band of reception for Kansas City. Even up on a hill with a 50' tower, large antenna, and preamplifier, I still suffer from pixeliation on their channels. All of the other KC channels come in great! For people who live in a low area, they don't get 41 or 38HD at all.

I worked for the station for over 13 years. I was one of their best operating engineers. Even my boss thought so. However, upstairs management fired me.
That shows you how much brains they have.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Isn't board for HD tv discussion, not rants against a former employer? I live down a hill on the southeast side of the metro. Had a pro install an antenna for me and I get everything but 9.1 and 9.2. No problems here.

I agree that I see a lot of glitches on 41. At least they went HD - anyone listening at Channel 4?

I live in Blue Springs behind a whole lot of houses with an indoor amplified antenna and get KSHB just fine.

By the way, tuning in to channel 7 on my parents-in-law's TV didn't do anything. The TV ignored the request and stayed on the channel it was tuned into. It did pick up KCTV-DT on both 5-1 and 24-1, however. Cheap Sanyo POS.

Try 7-3 instead of 7-1.

- Trip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.2_Network don't know which one KCTV5 or MYKSMOTV will carry it.
KCWE will have a Elections special at 9pm and KSHB Online will but not on KMCI because of a Jayhawks Game that should have been on another channel so KMCI could cover KSHB Coverage. The News on at 9pm on MYKSMOTV was not an Hour and should have been. 925 is back working.
Last Night at 6:30pm KMBC World News Tonight was on.
People who have the Examier or Lees Summit Journal or Blue Springs Newspaper have you see a Legal Notice for Comcast changes coming up in December?

I live in Olathe and picked up a new OTA antenna, the RCA ANT 1450. It doesn't have any rabbit ears or anything, just a flat piece about half an inch thick. The thing works great especially for 30 bucks. I get all 3 KMBC stations and both KSHB, plus 4 PBS. I had not been able to pickup the KMBC stations at all until recently then it was only 9-3. I had to play around with the best location but got it right after about three scans. The wife really likes the fact that the rabbit ears are gone.

I've got to give the HD election coverage kudos to NBC Action News. Running the NBC feed in a window of their local HD results graphics works pretty well. Other stations aren't using the 16:9 real estate nearly as effectively.

While watching the KU basketball game last night, I found it frustrating how terrible the picture quality was, even compared to other standard definition sports. On both OTA and TWC the quality was terrible, and on TWC the volume seemed to be very low. Anybody ever heard anything about when the KU games might go HD? Does it depend on the station the game will be broadcast on?

While watching the KU basketball game last night, I found it frustrating how terrible the picture quality was, even compared to other standard definition sports. On both OTA and TWC the quality was terrible, and on TWC the volume seemed to be very low. Anybody ever heard anything about when the KU games might go HD? Does it depend on the station the game will be broadcast on?

I am pretty sure Metro Sports produces "Jayhawk TV" and since they don't have any immediate plans to update their equipment for HD, I don't see the games going HD anytime soon. I agree that he pictures quality was bad, just like it was when Metro had the Royals games. I would even be happy with a good quality SD picture, but of course I would choose it to be HD any day.

Some may say KSHB's coverage ended up with too many graphics, but at least they used the side bars and didn't vertically shrink the network news feed like every other affiliate in KC did (I'm looking at you KCTV and KMBC).

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1041/nbcactionnewsqa2.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbcactionnewsqa2.jpg)

Beautiful.

Comcast doesn't have some of these channels yet.
Legal Notice

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BBC On Demand
CNBC
CNBC World
Comedy Central
E!
Expo TV On Demand
Flix
Fox Sports Midwest
Fuel TV
GAC
Game Show
HITN
HITS Espanol
i-Life TV
Lifeskool On Demand
Logo
MOJO HD
MSNBC
MTV
MTV Hits
MTV Tres
MTV2
NBA TV
NBC Universal VOD
NHL Network
Nick Toons
Nickelodeon
Noggin
Outdoor Channel
Oxygen On Demand
Palladia
Sci-Fi Channel
Shop NBC
Showtime / TMC
Sleuth (Trio)
Spike TV
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Universal HD
USA
VH1
VH1 Classic

In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. None at this time.

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Some may say KSHB's coverage ended up with too many graphics, but at least they used the side bars and didn't vertically shrink the network news feed like every other affiliate in KC did (I'm looking at you KCTV and KMBC).

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1041/nbcactionnewsqa2.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbcactionnewsqa2.jpg)

Beautiful.

I hate to have to be the one to point out the obvious, but it's my job. Looking at the image you posted, it is clear that the network picture is reduced since local elements are included on the sides. So KSHB did exactly what you said they didn't do. I cannot speak for how KMBC did it's coverage, I did not watch them. I know for a fact the only thing KCTV did with the CBS HD feed was to put an election lower third super over it in space provided by the network for that purpose. There is not a piece of equipment available to master control that will shrink the network picture, we can only super over it. The digital transmission path (5.1) will always be HD even if the material has to be upconverted, and will never be "shrunk" since most rebroadcasters (dish, direct, and most outlying cable systems) receive only the digital signal and center-cut it for SD. I hate when the facts get in the way of a good story.:)

I hate to have to be the one to point out the obvious, but it's my job. Looking at the image you posted, it is clear that the network picture is reduced since local elements are included on the sides. So KSHB did exactly what you said they didn't do.
Apparently I wasn't clear enough. Yes, KSHB did shrink the NBC feed, but they did it proportionally (i.e. kept the same 16:9 image). KMBC however left the ABC feed just as wide and shrunk it vertically (disproportionally). I was fully prepared to watch ABC throughout the night but I found NBC's side-bar information and KSHB's local results presentation far superior than any other affiliate in Kansas City.

And quite frankly I can't stand KCTV's news operation, so I wasn't going to leave my TV onto it.

edit -- nevermind - rebooted cable box once again and now it is working.

PROGRAMMING CHANGE FROM TIME WARNER CABLE

From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers.

Versus/Golf Channel HD will become two separate channels. Versus HD will remain on 1055. Golf Channel HD will reside at 1066.

751 is gone and moved to 760 and is called know TEAM10.
Good TWCKC for the annoucement now if Comcast can do one like that would be good.
Election '08 on Demand will be removed on Jan 1-TWCKC
Between December 1st and January MLB Network HD/SD on Comcast.
Your were also hoping that DOT2 Network was been added by TWCKC to.
Digital is the way that all companies are moving right now. It actually makes more room for channels in the future. So Comcast and so on here better get a moving ther rest of the Channels to Digital

PROGRAMMING CHANGE FROM TIME WARNER CABLE

From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers.

Versus/Golf Channel HD will become two separate channels. Versus HD will remain on 1055. Golf Channel HD will reside at 1066.

Darn! I was hoping for NHL HD to be added, but at least my hockey wont be interrupted by golf now :-)

PROGRAMMING CHANGE FROM TIME WARNER CABLE

From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers.

Versus/Golf Channel HD will become two separate channels. Versus HD will remain on 1055. Golf Channel HD will reside at 1066.

Time Warner updated their page again. I wonder if we will see the promised additional 28 HD channels around the middle of December when these other channel changes are made?

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In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:


Planned Moves on or after 12/17/08
Lifestyle OD, 132 to 139
BBC America OD,
133 to 140
News & World OD,
134 to 141
National Geographic OD, 135 to 142

Planned Additions on or after 12/17/08
Metro Sports OD - 130
Big Ten OD - 131
Big Ten HD OD - 1531
KU OD - 132

The following will no longer be available on or after 12/17/08
Answers OD Espanol, 151
Answers OD, 111
Elections 08 OD, 990

Other Changes on or after 12/8/08
+ Versus HD will remain on 1055. Golf Channel HD will reside at 1066.

KCWE Channel 29 will turn off analog on December 15th.

http://www.kmbc.com/newslinks/17982532/detail.html

-Tim

KCWE Channel 29 will turn off analog on December 15th.

http://www.kmbc.com/newslinks/17982532/detail.html

-Tim

Hopefully KCWE can run banners that Over-the-Air analog channel 29 is going dark sooner than the national shutoff. Once again the guys at KMBC/KCWE are being gutsy on digital television. :)

I don't think they are being that gutsy... many stations across the country will be or have done that already. The only way they can build out their DT facilities.

Doesn't do any changes just goes Full Power/available probley in Warsaw and so on around that time maybe in the future This TV or so on they will do.

Comcast users maybe post at AVS Forums Comcast Olathe/MO because people haven't in a while and just has 4 pages to 243 on this one and this one can become for TWCKC.
How long do you think 698 Sports Paper View Per View will stay on Comcast here maybe intill they move the Sports Tier on Digital to the 700's.
Metro Weather is available if Comcast wants it.

KMCI-DT is already at full power. The 38 Sports Spot is already broadcast in HD.

NBC has announced that Universal Sports Network will replace Weather Plus nationally.

Here's what you being waiting for a Comcast Change coming up Comcast and it's just one there could be more on this date for the MO side don't know about Olathe you would ahve to call to find to report it here.
NOTICE FOR COMCAST CABLE CUSTOMERS

Effective Dec. 1. 2008, MOJO, Ch 206, will cease operations and no longer be available. Comcast will replace MOJO with a preview of Versus HD. Also effective Dec 1, Golf/ Versus HD will no longer be combined on Ch 200. A preview of Golf HD will take its place on Dec 1. Versus HD and Golf HD will officially launch on channels 206 and 200 respectively, Dec 14. Both channels are available with Digital Starter and an HD receiver.

If you have any questions, please contact us at:
Comcast Cable
4700 Little Blue Parkway
Independence, MO 64057
816-795-1100

Doesn't do any changes just goes Full Power/available probley in Warsaw and so on around that time maybe in the future This TV or so on they will do.
Comcast users post at AVS Forums Comcast Olathe/MO because people haven't in a while and just has 4 pages to 243 on this one.

:confused:

Does not compute...

I'm in Olathe. Using one of those small UHF wire loop antennas, I get every digital OTA channel that Antennaweb says I should get, except for KMBC-DT (9.1 and 9.2). I do get KMBC-SD (9.3).

Do I need a VHF antenna to get 9.1 and 9.2? Any changes I should be aware of after this coming February?

KMBC is currently on VHF channel 7. If you give them a few months, they'll be moving their digital signal up to channel 29. So there's little point in wasting effort on trying to get KMBC-DT at this time, it will become much easier to receive in the near future.

- Trip

Thanks, Trip. That's good news.

I am suffering from a near total outage here in Lee's Summit with Time Warner.

My Digital Phone, RoadRunner, sdv channels, On Demand and HD channels are all out. Time Warner's phone lines are busy.

Anyone heard any news on the problems?

i had the same problem last night between ~8:30-9:30pm...

KMCI-DT is already at full power. http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2008/11/clock-runs-out.html Sports Spot

NBC has announced that Universal Sports Network will replace Weather Plus nationally.

RTN or 24/7 KC News Station or so on?

MLB network Chn 279 Digital Classic maybe here to and maybe to where when we get them or moved to to another number open a space
Exercise ON demand Chn 282 moved from chn 279
Fox News HD Chn 214 Digital Starter
FX HD Chn 224 Digital Starter
Speed HD Chn 223 Sports Ent Package
Biography HD Chn 186 Digital Classic
Cartoon Network HD Chn 227 Digital Starter
E! HD Chn 225 Digital Starter
LMN HD Chn 221 Digital Classic
Planet Green HD Chn 210 Digital Classic
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6617763.html?display=Breaking+News&referral=SUPP&nid=2228 DOT2 Network

NBC has announced that Universal Sports Network will replace Weather Plus nationally.

I wonder if KSHB will be doing their own local weather channel or going with the Universal Sports Network?

Probably both. Local weather talent can fill the holes of Weather Plus, or they can run infomercials *ugh*. WOWT in Omaha runs Universal Sports Network... can't say if they ever show anything worth watching.

KMCI-DT is already at full power. http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2008/11/clock-runs-out.html Sports Spot

NBC has announced that Universal Sports Network will replace Weather Plus nationally.

RTN or 24/7 KC News Station or so on?

MLB network Chn 279 Digital Classic maybe here to and maybe to where when we get them or moved to to another number open a space
Exercise ON demand Chn 282 moved from chn 279
Fox News HD Chn 214 Digital Starter
FX HD Chn 224 Digital Starter
Speed HD Chn 223 Sports Ent Package
Biography HD Chn 186 Digital Classic
Cartoon Network HD Chn 227 Digital Starter
E! HD Chn 225 Digital Starter
LMN HD Chn 221 Digital Classic
Planet Green HD Chn 210 Digital Classic
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6617763.html?display=Breaking+News&referral=SUPP&nid=2228 DOT2 Network

Received a mailing from Comcast today. As far as their HD channel package is concerned, 12/01 - Versus HD will replace MOJO on channel 206; Golf Channel HD will remain on channel 200. No other changes were announced by Comcast on their HD tier. They still seem to think that the number of HD on Demand offerings is the reason people stick with Comcast for HD programming.

Comcast is in denial. Need I dare ask what the source of mgsports new local HD channel designations was and when they were supposed to take effect. As usual, it is rather hard to decipher his messages on this board, but more often than not he is on target with his somewhat scrambled messages.

Hi
I recently added a Hauppauge HVR-1250 tuner card in Vista HTPC. I also added TV Pack 2008 and followed online instructions. Vista Media Center detects the card as Clear QAM capable and gives me a list of cable companies where i select TWC in Overland Park. However, its not able to scan any of the channels so far. I have connected the cable comming out of the wall directly to the Tuner in my PC. Is this the correct setup?

Also, does TWC have clear QAM channels? Am I missing anything else?
Any help on this is highly appreciated.

Thanks.

I don't think Windows Vista Media Center detects QAM-Clear channels. They won't be listed in any EPG either.

If you download the Hauppauge WinTV application from their website (free) it will scan and detect/add the QAM-Clear channels from TWC.

(I have the same card in my machine)

I don't think Windows Vista Media Center detects QAM-Clear channels. They won't be listed in any EPG either.

If you download the Hauppauge WinTV application from their website (free) it will scan and detect/add the QAM-Clear channels from TWC.

(I have the same card in my machine)


Thanks for the reply. Vista Media Center is supposed to detect QAM after user installs TV Pack 2008, which I did. Also the WinTV doesnt detect QAM channels either. I think either TWC has disabled QAM for me or the signal is too weak at my place. Maybe i need amplification.

From a Lineup Card that came in the Mail today MLB Network January 1st 272 maybe others to.

Not even it's HD Channel or other Channels moved to Digital to open space for new HD Channels like Big Ten Network/NHL Network/Fox Business Channel/Hallmark Movie Channel/ESPNNEWS/QVC and SD Channels like SHOPNBC/Bloomberg News/Fox Movie Channel.

TWCKC has Caller ID/I Control on the TV now and Comcast doesn't yet.
I like TWCKC On Demand better then Comcast and also has a section on the Menu for recent Channels added and Comcast doesn't.

Mun2 is part of Digital Classic and even if you don't suscribe to Spanish Tier it won't be turned on.
the 16 Channels in the Digitsl Perferred are moving to Digital Classic but it said 16 new ones.

That lineup card was an insult to the intelligence of Comcast's customers. It again skirted the issue of adding any additional HD channels, implying that OnDemand accomplished even more. If that mailing piece doesn't cause more people to switch to satellite, I will be surprised. Comcast is very close to false advertising in my opinion.

The .2 network won't be coming to KSMO on Dec. 8th as originally scheduled and has been delayed to Spring 2009. Network officials cite economic hardships, and the DTV transition in February.

Link:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6617763.html

Thanks for the reply. Vista Media Center is supposed to detect QAM after user installs TV Pack 2008, which I did. Also the WinTV doesnt detect QAM channels either. I think either TWC has disabled QAM for me or the signal is too weak at my place. Maybe i need amplification.

I have a ATI Card in Vista and installed TV Pack 08, the scan did not indicate any QAM channels, however if you go to Settings/Guide/Edit Channels; you will see the channels and hopefully including QAM, I did and was able to select the channels I wanted to watch. The channels without the padlock are clear QAM. There is a pretty good article on pcmag - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2331434,00.asp that goes into install and setup that helped me.

I think I'm going to have to hook my Media Center TV Card back up and check this out. Thanks for the article!

New HD from Time Warner "On or around December 1st":

MGM HD will air on channel 1501 in place of MOJO HD.

CNBC HD on channel 1029.
USA HD on channel 1039.
Cartoon Network HD on channel 1058.
FX HD on channel 1062.
Sci-Fi on channel 1063.
Bravo HD on channel 1068.
Speed HD on channel 1201.
Tennis Channel HD on channel 1206.
CBS College Sports HD on channel 1212.
NHL Network HD on channel 1214.
Fox Business HD on channel 1232.
The Movie Channel HD (TMC HD) on channel 1390.

In discussions with:

HBO 2 HD on channel 1302
HBO Signature HD on channel 1304
MoreMax HD on channel 1322
Showtime Too HD on channel 1342
Starz Kids/Family HD on channel 1363

There are other non-hd channels being added, too.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/kansascity/aboutus/legalnotice.html

No other Comcast changes today just that 206 is called what 200 was called intill the 16th.
Jewelry will be simulcast on channel 265 and coming soon to channel 80.
NEW! Cornerstone on channel 81.
NEW! ONTV 4U on channel 83 and is like PEG on Comcast.
NEW! Shopping Plus on channel 85. mybe like QVC.
NEW! Revenue Frontier on channel 89.
Finally, we are currently involved in discussions regarding the services and/or stations listed below. While we cannot guarantee that we will reach agreement with the relevant programmers and/or broadcasters, we are listing these services/ stations here in the event that we are able to start carrying them in the future:

HBO 2 HD on channel 1302
HBO Signature HD on channel 1304
MoreMax HD on channel 1322
Showtime Too HD on channel 1342
Starz Kids/Family HD on channel 1363
Azteca America on channel 151 (Digital Basic and Nuesta Tele)
Mexico 22 on channel 158
Discovery Familia on channel 165
Telemundo on channel 167
Latinoamerica TV on channel 168

Also has a RTN on 180 in the Spanish section and some channels before the HD Channels that are also on Analog like Food Network,Weather Channel and so on.

Nothing about when Comcast is getting rid of Elections On Demand Channel.

This TV It means Comcast in Olathe/MO and so on in KC viewing area will get because the people who own KMBC/KCWE/KMBC First Alert has signed up for it.
http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2008/12/01/daily.10/

It looks like Time Warner is in the process of adding some more HD channels today. None of the new channels in the guide work, all give an error message. Also, many of the previous HD channels are not working either, giving the same error message as the new channels.

You would think adding some channels would not be quite so difficult, but at least they are adding them!

Many, but not all of TWC new HD channels are working.

/sigh of course FXHD is added the week after Sons of Anarchy ended its season.

I just went through all of mine in South Overland Park and they all worked for me. I was getting MOJO HD before they ceased, and now that MGM HD is on, I don't get it anymore... I don't pay for the expanded HD pack.

I always seem to have to reboot my box when TWC adds new channels. I did that last night and they all worked except for TMC and MGM. Those two had the lock symbol because I guess rebooting the box turned the parental control stuff on. I shut that back off and then everything worked except that a couple channels weren't showing guide info.

Version Phone Service is coming to Olathe because City Council approved it on Tuesday so maybe FIOS and it's Internet Service in the future to. It's Wireless Service is in KS/MO.

Lets keep are things cross on Monday when Versus and Golf HD go live that theirs other changes to here on Comcast.

On 138th Street Surwest and AT&T U-verse are laying down lines for the Cable Service.

Version Phone Service is coming to Olathe so maybe FIOS and it's Internet Service in the future to.

Does Verizon even operate in the KC area, except for Wireless? I could see them offering phone (VOIP), but not much else?

I have Time Warner and just rebooted my cable box. All of my HD channels are stuttering and pixelated, before and after the reboot. OnDemand seems ok, the non-HD channels are fine, recorded shows are fine. Anybody else experiencing this?

-- Edit
Seems to be working fine now.

I have Time Warner and just rebooted my cable box. All of my HD channels are stuttering and pixelated, before and after the reboot. OnDemand seems ok, the non-HD channels are fine, recorded shows are fine. Anybody else experiencing this?

-- Edit
Seems to be working fine now.

Mine were the same way two nights ago, but I have not checked since then.

I just went through all of mine in South Overland Park and they all worked for me. I was getting MOJO HD before they ceased, and now that MGM HD is on, I don't get it anymore... I don't pay for the expanded HD pack.

Am I reading it right that MojoHD is no more? That sucks if that is the case. I will have to see if they air their shows online.

MOJO-HD ceased operations Nation-Wide on December 1. It will continue as an "On-Demand" product and online.

MOJO-HD ceased operations Nation-Wide on December 1. It will continue as an "On-Demand" product and online.

Thanks.

I just went through all of mine in South Overland Park and they all worked for me. I was getting MOJO HD before they ceased, and now that MGM HD is on, I don't get it anymore... I don't pay for the expanded HD pack.

Who charges for the expanded HD channels?

I have Everest, now Surewest, cable and I receive HD signals via my HD TV, however I do not have an HD box for premium channels. Although I receive channels such as NBCHD, FOXHD, FXHD, USAHD, ESPNHD, ESPN2HD, etc...I cannot seem to find CBSHD. I have scanned all the channels past 100 that pickup HD signals, but CBSHD is the only one I cannot find. Is there a CBSHD station for non-cable box owners who receive HD signal on standard cable, or do I have to have a box for this??

I have Time Warner north of the river and have been having problems with pixelation and audio/video freezing on the digital channels. I just replaced the box for the second time yesterday and it began again. Time Warner came out this morning to take a look at it and said the signal strength was fine and replaced the splitter going into the house. Problem continued. The tech's suggestion is that I get them to come out and replace the cable in the house. (Earliest I can get them out for this service is December 17) It seems to be worst in the evening to the point that I have to switch to the analog channels to watch or record anything. Has anyone else had this problem?

Time Warner charges an extra fee for these non-analog simulcast HD channels

1. HDNET
2. HDNET Movies
3. Universal HD
4. MGM-HD

I have Everest, now Surewest, cable and I receive HD signals via my HD TV, however I do not have an HD box for premium channels. Although I receive channels such as NBCHD, FOXHD, FXHD, USAHD, ESPNHD, ESPN2HD, etc...I cannot seem to find CBSHD. I have scanned all the channels past 100 that pickup HD signals, but CBSHD is the only one I cannot find. Is there a CBSHD station for non-cable box owners who receive HD signal on standard cable, or do I have to have a box for this??
QAM 81.3 is CBSDT on Everest

I love that Time Warner added Speed HD. However, I'm having a strange problem with it. Any content I record from Speed HD with my Time Warner DVR plays back with no audio. This includes both shows recorded normally or if I simply pause or rewind a live show.

I have not noticed this problem with any other channels and I have tried it on several.

Additionally, I've experimented with using both the RF Dolby Digital and the HDMI outputs. Neither one works.

I'm curious if anyone else is noticing this problem with Speed HD?

Hey all.

I just bought a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800 tuner card. I am trying to get it set up in Vista Media Center with the TV Pack (Fiji). It detects the clear QAM tuner fine, but cannot find any channels after scanning. I have Everest as a cable provider.

I called Everest to try to get a list of channels, but they didn't seem to know what I was talking about, and referred me to the website's digital channel listing.

Can someone else with Everest list out the clear QAM channel numbers? I have searched on this forum and haven't found it. The results for "Everest" are quite large though, so maybe I'm missing them.

Anyone else with this tuner card have any success? Note I also tried installing the (really bad) WinTV software, and it couldn't detect any of the channels on scan either. It can find all of the analog ones fine (and in fact I can get about 3 off of an antenna).

Thanks much.

I have (tried - don't know if I can attach docs or not) attached a word doc with the Evererst QAM channels. I would also refer to this PC Mag article for information on WMC.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2331431,00.asp
The scan doesn't seem to bring back any channels, but they are all there at least up to the 125-xx channels.
Good Luck!

Thanks bdtnr, that was a huge help. I had been using the listing from the silicon dust site and nothing would come up. Your list worked!! So how is this list maintained, and is it posted anywhere on the 'net? Thanks again. Watching SNL in HD and happy! :)

I have Time Warner north of the river and have been having problems with pixelation and audio/video freezing on the digital channels. I just replaced the box for the second time yesterday and it began again. Time Warner came out this morning to take a look at it and said the signal strength was fine and replaced the splitter going into the house. Problem continued. The tech's suggestion is that I get them to come out and replace the cable in the house. (Earliest I can get them out for this service is December 17) It seems to be worst in the evening to the point that I have to switch to the analog channels to watch or record anything. Has anyone else had this problem?

Yes, I've had that problem - twice. If your house cabling is simple and you don't want to wait 10 days, you can try replacing some sections yourself to see if it clears up. All it takes is a hard kink or a little nick to really mess up the digital channels. If it's possible, hook a box and a TV up directly after the main splitter and check the signal level and error rates (especially those) on the diagnostics screen. That could eliminate the house cabling as the source of the problem.

In my case, both times it had nothing to do with anything in my house. It was the service line coming from the main box in my neighbor's yard once, and it was some hardware inside that box the other time. Signal strength and my boxes in the house were fine both times, so there was really nothing for the techs who came out to do.

And both times it took multiple calls (with them wanting to send the house tech out again every time) and around two months for TWC to get the problem fixed, because apparently the techs and the maintenance crews don't communicate with each other very well. Good luck.

I love that Time Warner added Speed HD. However, I'm having a strange problem with it. Any content I record from Speed HD with my Time Warner DVR plays back with no audio. This includes both shows recorded normally or if I simply pause or rewind a live show.

I'm curious if anyone else is noticing this problem with Speed HD?

I just tried rewinding and playing, and no sound. Live play is fine. I checked several of the other new channels and they don't have the problem. Weird.

Thanks bdtnr, that was a huge help. I had been using the listing from the silicon dust site and nothing would come up. Your list worked!! So how is this list maintained, and is it posted anywhere on the 'net? Thanks again. Watching SNL in HD and happy! :)
That was my own list since I had the same problems and had trouble finding anything. The only change I've seen since I put that together is sometimes NBCDT will come in on 630 (same as on the converter box vs. 120-3).

Whew! Sure glad I found this forum. Here goes: I live in Kansas City, 66106. I don't have cable. I'm using rabbit ears with the converter box as I have an analog TV. Some stations come in good...then they duh-duh-duh like it's stuttering and the converter says the reception isn't good, try adjusting your ears...or something like that. I adjust the ears and then it will duh=duh-duh again.
Do I need something more than rabbit ears to get good reception and keep it or am I just doomed to live with this? is there something inexpensive rather than buying a new TV?
Thank you for your time.

Whew! Sure glad I found this forum. Here goes: I live in Kansas City, 66106. I don't have cable. I'm using rabbit ears with the converter box as I have an analog TV. Some stations come in good...then they duh-duh-duh like it's stuttering and the converter says the reception isn't good, try adjusting your ears...or something like that. I adjust the ears and then it will duh=duh-duh again.
Do I need something more than rabbit ears to get good reception and keep it or am I just doomed to live with this? is there something inexpensive rather than buying a new TV?
Thank you for your time.

Go to www.antennaweb.org and put in your address. This will tell you what type of antenna you need based on your location. It's a very good web site.

Thanks!

Whew! Sure glad I found this forum. Here goes: I live in Kansas City, 66106. I don't have cable. I'm using rabbit ears with the converter box as I have an analog TV. Some stations come in good...then they duh-duh-duh like it's stuttering and the converter says the reception isn't good, try adjusting your ears...or something like that. I adjust the ears and then it will duh=duh-duh again.
Do I need something more than rabbit ears to get good reception and keep it or am I just doomed to live with this? is there something inexpensive rather than buying a new TV?
Thank you for your time.

Or you can make your own DTV antenna! I did this and it works great. For instructions, go to YouTube and search for "Coat Hanger HDTV Antenna".

Adam

Not sure if more channels are coming today, but it looks like Time Warner has added 1214 - NHL Network HD today. It isn't working, but is in the guide.

Not sure if more channels are coming today, but it looks like Time Warner has added 1214 - NHL Network HD today. It isn't working, but is in the guide.

As of 12:39 today, it IS working! :)

Hey Adam, thanks. It looks a whole lot better than the rabbit ears.

http://www.bottomlinecom.com/currentnews/kctv5metroparting.html doesn't efect the Cable systems only if KMBC changes the name of the Channel or so on.

Probley after February 19 Comcast here will aded more Channels.
235 on Comcast is probley being saved for KMCI HD.

Does anyone know if Comcast Olathe is providing any HD channels in the clear? I found some digital SD channels, but only found 9.1 for HD. I was hoping to atleast get ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC without a box. I searched back in threads, but the channels from 2 years ago don't seem to show up anymore.

Anybody have a current list of clear QAM channels for Comcast Independence?

how is everest/surewest hd service compared to timewarner? ive previously had time warner but there was a line problem that they refused to fix so service was constantly pixelating and freezing. affected my entire apartment building. their navigator dvr software sucked too. ive been a happy uverse customer since april but i am moving in jan to a house and there is no uverse service there (95th and antioch area). i called everest and they have a better price than i had with TW back in the day. how does their service compare for those that have used both TW and everest? im interested in HD quality and dvr software/hardware. channel lineups look similar with hd versions of the 4 broadcast stations, scifi, fx, and speed being of high importance to me. should i go with them over crimewarner, er, timewarner ;) ?

TB,
I'm sure everyone might have a slightly different opinion, but I have been satisfied with Everest. I've had good experience with customer service, their picture quality can sometimes have some pixelation, but overall I've been happy. I don't use their dvr, so can't speak to that. HS Internet works well with few outages. For the $, I've been pleased.

Just to give everyone an update... my Time-Warner reception appears to vary with the weather as well. Since the bad weather set in all of my digital channels on Time Warner are total garbage, with much of the time it being so bad that it goes completely black. We'll see what the tech says tomorrow... Hopefully it will still be the same when he gets here so I don't get the "you're a nutcase" stare.

When I had Everest I was thrilled with the service. In 18 months I never had an outage with the cable or the internet. The HD was crystal clear as well. The HD DVR software was a little wiggy, but not as bad as Navigator with TWC. I'm moving to a new apartment in February and will be switching back to Everest.

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but sometime in the last 24 hours, TW added the following HD movie channels:

Showtime2 HD
Starz Kids HD

Wow, it's almost getting to the point where new channels are added before we get to complain about not having them!

MLB HD launching in KC Jan 1...
http://www.timewarnercable.com/kansascity/aboutus/legalnotice.html

KC has more TWC HD channels than any other TWC market. Looks like we're getting new HD channels before NYC (which has been scheduled to be first with many channels like SciFi).

Some new ones expected soon...
Nickelodeon, Africa Channel, G4, E!, Spike and more HBO/MAX channels.

These HD additions are what keeps me with TWC and away from DISH/DirecTV.

In the new Legal Notice, it does look like HBO 2 HD on channel 1302, HBO Signature HD on channel 1304 and MoreMax HD on channel 1322 are missing. They were listed on the Nov 28th Legal Notice. All of the other HD channels on the Nov 28th Legal Notice appear to have been added.

It does surprise me that The Weather Channel in HD hasn't been added. You'd think NBC would be pushing that one with their recent purchase.

Yeah, I now have ATT Uverse in my area and have been thinking of switching for the better premium HD movie channels and 4 channel record but they want a 3 year contract. I'm on no TWC contract and I also like the ability to do firewire recording as well as adding more DVR storage - not sure if that is doable on ATT. Another cool feature coming from TWC is something like 'restart'. You will soon be able to start over any show that you are currently watching, even w/out a DVR box.

Methinks TWC is the best total package for now, especially once they catch up with SAT on HD channels, which appears could happen within months.

214-FNCHD saw yesterday when I turned on the TV at 4pm but never saw anything about it being added. Ch. 223 Speed HD
Ch. 224 FX HD when added.
Noticed 272 MLB Network last night around 10:40pm meaning got it early before it launches at 6pm on 1-1-09.
Good to know because we need to have 4 Local Weather Channels here but no where on the Blog saying that but they do have a new Weather Page on there Website.
Chiller TV is also being added for you guys.

Nobody with cable will be getting 9.3. That would be pointless since you already have it on KMBC analog.

so true


KC area broadcast stations 9if you have one of those broadcast converter boxes)


4.1- fox
5.1- cbs
5.2- ????
6.1- pbs

9.1- abc
9.2.- local weather channel

16.1. to 16.5- local TBN stations from St. Joseph Missouri

19.1 to 19.4 PBS stations

29- CW

35.1- Daystar

38- KMCI

41- NBC

41.2- local weather channel

48.1- spanish channel

50.1 to 50.4- ION network and its 3 subchannels

62.1- My Network TV

214-FNCHD saw yesterday when I turned on the TV at 4pm but never saw anything about it being added.

Maybe on January 1st when Weather Plus is gone.
Chiller TV is alos being added for you guys.

According to the weather blog over at NBC Action News, their weather team will be putting together their own weather channel to replace Weather Plus.

I'm on no TWC contract and I also like the ability to do firewire recording as well as adding more DVR storage - not sure if that is doable on ATT.

Okay, do you have any links on up the DVR storage, or event he fireware recording?

Thanks...

Is KUKC-DT on the air yet? I wasn't aware of that. KUKC is the low-power Univision affiliate here in KC.

Is KUKC-DT on the air yet? I wasn't aware of that. KUKC is the low-power Univision affiliate here in KC.
Not yet although they do have a CP for DT39. Also not on the air in digital yet in KC is ch. 35 (Daystar) and ch. 45 (HSN).

Don't expect anything digital out of KUKC-LD in the near future. The parent company is bankrupt. They'll be taking even their full-powered analog-only stations silent on 02/17 since they cannot find funding to convert them to digital.

- Trip

KMBC now running syndicated HD! I'm watching ET right now in glorious HD. Finally!

I may have to force myself to watch it now. Are Oprah and Dr. Phil HD now, too?

I'm watching Dr Phil-HD now!

I can only assume that the evening replays of Oprah and Phil on 29 are in HD now, too.

That reminds me: Since KCTV-5 news is in HD now, is Ellen in HD?

I can only assume that the evening replays of Oprah and Phil on 29 are in HD now, too.

That reminds me: Since KCTV-5 news is in HD now, is Ellen in HD?
Last time I checked a few weeks back Ellen is not in HD nor is any other syndicated offerings on the channel such as The Insider or CSI: Weekends.

Dr. Phil is NOT in HD on 29-1 tonight.

Dr. Phil is NOT in HD on 29-1 tonight.

ET on 29 not in HD either.

Last night, the following premium HD channels were added.

HBO2 HD
HBOSignature HD
More Max HD

That now gives us 10 premiums in HD.

More HD for TWCKC but not Comcast yet and some Comcast have added a lot of HD recently.
I see that the Analog to Digital Freeze is intill March but at least Comcast can move the Sports Digital Tier Channels to the 700 so more HD Channels can be added,get rid Elections on Demand Channel,850 because hasen't been turned on yet,move HD On Demand channels again so 123 Oxygen that's on 185 right know,Ion Life and Qubo and 126 Cartoon Network when it moves to Digital side.

When is the Start Over feature with TWC suppose to start in KC? They hoped to get it going by end of year.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/KansasCity/site.faqs/Cable/StartOver

Last night, the following premium HD channels were added.

HBO2 HD
HBOSignature HD
More Max HD

That now gives us 10 premiums in HD.

Which provider?

OMG! My prayers have been answered! Sci-Fi in HD on TWCKC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TWC

Edit: To answer FrugalRacer's question...

http://mlbn.viewerlink.tv/ListAffiliates.aspx Shows it on 182 2 times and we don't have 182 yet only 272 for MLB Network at the moment so maybe on 1-1-09 it will be also added to 182 in SD and 183 in HD.

Some of these could be added to the area to
Bohemia · FUNimation · ION Life · LATV · MeTV · PBS World · qubo · RTN · This TV · ThinkBright· VTV · V-me

http://mlbn.viewerlink.tv/ListAffiliates.aspx Shows it on 182 2 times and we don't have one 182 yet only 272 for MLB Network so maybe on 1-1-09 it will be also added to 182 in SD and 183 in HD.

Us TWC customers have it on Jan 1, too:

MLB, 199
MLB HD, 1199

TIME WARNER CABLE TO DROP THESE CHANNELS BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT

Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite
MTV
VH1
Spike
TV Land
Comedy Central
Noggin
MTV2
VH1 Classic
Logo
MTV Hits
MTV Jams
MTV Tr3s
Nick Too
Nicktoons
The N
CMT Pure Country
Palladia
VH1 Soul

It looks like KMBC will be running an hour-delayed ABC New Year's Eve show tonight in order to count down the central time zone with Time Square's footage. Anybody know if it'll be in HD? Now that shows like Oprah, Dr. Phil and ET are in HD, I'd hope tonight's program can be, too.

TIME WARNER CABLE TO DROP THESE CHANNELS BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT

Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite
MTV
VH1
Spike
TV Land
Comedy Central
Noggin
MTV2
VH1 Classic
Logo
MTV Hits
MTV Jams
MTV Tr3s
Nick Too
Nicktoons
The N
CMT Pure Country
Palladia
VH1 Soul

Interesting.....

It looks like KMBC will be running an hour-delayed ABC New Year's Eve show tonight in order to count down the central time zone with Time Square's footage. Anybody know if it'll be in HD? Now that shows like Oprah, Dr. Phil and ET are in HD, I'd hope tonight's program can be, too.

Highly unlikely. Are the View and Nightline in HD? I haven't watched either but I doubt KMBC can do it.

Didn't lose those Channels and no 182 on Comcast today and no new KSHB Weather Channel yet.


Time Warner and Viacom resolved their differences, but a few local channels did not. Sunflower Broadband dropped KMBC and KCWE from the lineup as compensation negotiations stalled. Dish Network dropped Topeka's KTKA for the same reason.


On January 19th, KQTV in St. Joseph will lower their tower 200 feet and reduce analog power in preparation to move their digital signal to channel 7.

Where did you see or here that? Probley also there own Screens and so on.

Highly unlikely. Are the View and Nightline in HD? I haven't watched either but I doubt KMBC can do it.
It ended up being in SD. How disappointing.

[QUOTE=mgsports;15434281] no new KSHB Weather Channel yet.
[QUOTE]
KSHB relaunched their weather channel Monday, it's the same as it was before just minus the national NBC maps and slightly longer local segments.

I currently just get OTA channels and I was thinking of getting the TWC basic for $12/mo, but according to their website (http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=271&Zip=&Image1.x=27&Image1.y=9&Image1=submit) as far as I can tell, I wouldn't get any extra channels other than WGN and TBS.
I assume I would have to get a set-top box or cablecard to get the "Standard Tier" channels like Sci Fi and CNN.
I currently use a Sony DHG-HDD250 for a set-top box connected to an antenna on the roof, and this could take a cable card.

I used to have a Sony DHG-HDD250. Great receiver. Ok software though. Also, how are you going to get the program guide after analog shutdown. Did sony/gemstar release a software update for you? I guess you could ask TWC for a cable card! They will probably try to lease you their box though! I sold my Sony box and am using my iMac with HDHomeRun as my DVR. Recently I got the Dish VIP722 and wish I had just stuck with the HDHomeRun since I am paying $40/month for Dish and am watching just network shows!

I think I need one of the new set-top converter boxes with pass-thru, or maybe a cablecard would work. Some people have reported being able to get listings via the digital CBS station, if you have the right firmware, but that probably is only in a few areas.
I still need to get the box fixed, as the hard drive failed.
I am trying to avoid paying $65 for TWC's digital package, and it would be extra for a DVR.

Why is it that I can record in HD on a consumer grade DVR, but major local TV stations cannot record network programming in HD to playback at a later time?

Why is it that I can record in HD on a consumer grade DVR, but major local TV stations cannot record network programming in HD to playback at a later time?
I wondered the same thing myself. I'd be willing to lend KMBC my TiVo HD if they'd like.

I actually used it with a digital projector New Year's Eve to show the KU game and other programming in HD at a party. Alas, "New Year's Rockin' Eve" was NOT in HD at midnight in Kansas City.

Has anyone heard when KCTV and Fox4 is ging to launch any digital subchannels? I'm hoping they get something good. KMOS in Sedalia seems to ahve their stuff up and running, I don't know why KCPT lets 19-3 and 19-4 go dark at night.. KMOS has this "World" channel or whatever it is, not too many good things on it, but they do play Australian football with all these hunky guys running around in short shorts, so it's worth it for that alone. Ozark Public Television in Springfield doesn't go dark at night on their subchannels, either, what's KCPT's problem?

what's KCPT's problem?

HD. Isn't that why we're here?

what's KCPT's problem?
They want to have their cake and eat it too. During the day they want lots of programming available, all in SD, while in the evening they want to show prime-time stuff in HD with less programming available. Meanwhile they tick off HD fans and viewers yearning for content all at the same time.

Start Over (tm) is now available on TW in KC. My kids noticed it on the Disney Channel last night. I checked, and it works. Oddly enough, it's only on Disney, not Disney-HD. I checked the Time Warner KC page to see which channels it's available for, but I couldn't find anything.

Anyone have them mapped out yet?

Olathe Channel 7 will be on Surewest and TWCKC in Olathe soon an is now called OTGN.

DOT2 Network has been pushed back to the Spring so that's when KCTV is adding a Digital Sub Channel but maybe they will add a 24/7 Local Weather Channel or 24/7 Local News Channel or so on.

Scripps has a deal with RTN.

I would say WDAF would added Variety TV or so on.

This TV will be here at some on KMBC.

The Action Weather Plus went on air today.

The question is when will Comcast added ,Universal Sports,ION LIFE and QUBO and KC On Demand,Interactive TV,Metro Weather,Metro Sports and KMCI in HD and so on channels?

It's not really a Sub Channel it's just a Overflow Channel for March Madness like Big Ten Network has that Comcast doesn't have yet.

Has anyone heard when KCTV and Fox4 is ging to launch any digital subchannels? I'm hoping they get something good. KMOS in Sedalia seems to ahve their stuff up and running, I don't know why KCPT lets 19-3 and 19-4 go dark at night.. KMOS has this "World" channel or whatever it is, not too many good things on it, but they do play Australian football with all these hunky guys running around in short shorts, so it's worth it for that alone. Ozark Public Television in Springfield doesn't go dark at night on their subchannels, either, what's KCPT's problem?


Multicasting with subchannels destroys HD picture quality :(. One HD channel with full-bandwidth for the HD programming gives us viewers the best in Over-the-Air digital HD quality. :)

Has anyone heard when KCTV and Fox4 is ging to launch any digital subchannels? I'm hoping they get something good.

I'm really hoping they don't. Not during times when HD content is available anyway.

Given that the Fox splicer will not allow the HD to be downgraded, WDAF is the only station where it actually would make perfect sense to add a subchannel.

- Trip

Technically, KCTV has a subchannel, however they've only ever used it during March Madness.

While channel surfing last night I stumbled on to 62 and started watching the illusion thing they had on. I watched for about 5 minutes before I realized it was in HD. (Times are good when you can watch so much HD that you only notice when things are not in HD.) I'm not a big fan of My Network TV so I never watch it; I guess that's why I missed it when they went HD in prime time.

KSMO-DT has been HD for awhile now. I think My Network TV started off in HD when it launched, went back to SD for awhile, and now is back with a few HD programs such as WWE Raw and some movies. I'm glad KSMO has HD programming again myself even if I never watch anything on it.

(Times are good when you can watch so much HD that you only notice when things are not in HD.)
Yeah, it's strange. The other night we tuned into Password and it was in SD. It felt so boxed in and constrained in 4:3 with black pillarboxing.

Apparently KMBC wanted to show "New Year's Rockin' Eve" here in KC in HD (when we counted down to midnight). But they had problems. Here's the lead engineer's reply to my e-mail:

Thanks for the note. I apologize for our inability to show the HD version of this program but it wasn’t from the lack of trying. We made all the preparations that afternoon to record and playback the show in HD and actually did, however, for some reason which we have yet to discover, when it came time to playback the program our automation system, which controls our video servers, refused to recognize that the program existed so it wouldn’t cue up the program and we were forced to play the SD version to air. I’ve sent a question to our automation vendor to see if they can shed some light on this conundrum for the future. As you stated below, we do record and playback Dr. Phil and ET without much trouble we are totally puzzled as to why this show refused to air.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6628056.html about KC Local Stations.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/att011209.htm NHL Network HD is now available.

If the analog shutoff gets delayed will KMBC still move from VHF-7 to UHF-29 in February or will we have to wait until the rescheduled date?

If the analog shutoff gets delayed will KMBC still move from VHF-7 to UHF-29 in February or will we have to wait until the rescheduled date?


Let's hope the analog shutoff stays on schedule. History shows when the federal government removed leaded gasoline from the marketplace the country survived just fine. People who own older cars at that time running on leaded gasoline adapted to unleaded gasoline very quickly. The Over-the-Air viewers will adapt very quickly to digital television.

Hey KMBC we Over-the-Air viewers need you on UHF DT-29 as soon as possible. :)

Hey KMBC we Over-the-Air viewers need you on UHF DT-29 as soon as possible. :)
AMEN! My in-laws would love to watch KMBC in HD on their HDTV instead of everything in SD (on 9-3).

AMEN! My in-laws would love to watch KMBC in HD on their HDTV instead of everything in SD (on 9-3).

I'm confused..... Why are they watching 9-3?

I'm confused..... Why are they watching 9-3?

They most likely cannot receive 9-1 yet.

- Trip

They most likely cannot receive 9-1 yet.

- Trip

Maybe some of the broadcast engineers can correct me here, but since 9-1 and 9-3 are part of the same master channel, I don't think it's possible that you can receive one but not the other unless there is something wrong with the receiver.

In fact it is my impression that 9-1 and 9-3 are currently directed by the channel mapping data (I forget the term for this) to the same OTA data. 9-3 on my TV appears to be exactly the same as 9-1. Same programming, same 1080i.

Not so. 9-1 and 9-2 are on channel 7, KMBC-DT.

9-3 is actually KCWE-DT's subchannel (29-2), airing the KMBC programming in 480i. It's being mapped to 9-3 so people are able to figure out that, yes, it's KMBC's programming.

- Trip

Not so. 9-1 and 9-2 are on channel 7, KMBC-DT.

9-3 is actually KCWE-DT's subchannel (29-2), airing the KMBC programming in 480i. It's being mapped to 9-3 so people are able to figure out that, yes, it's KMBC's programming.

- Trip

That's bizzare. I just checked. The OTA tuner in my satellite receiver is receiving Scrubs in full 1080i HD on 9-3, but the tuner in my TV is receiving 480i on 9-3. I'm not sure why my two units are mapping them differently.

*Edit* With a little more investigation I've found I'm receiving a 9-3 from channel 7 (1080i) and a 9-3 from channel 31 (480i) on my satellite receiver. It looks like my satellite data is mapping 9-3 from 7-1, and a second 9-3 from 31(-2 I assume). The TV is mapping 9-3 from 31.

I hope 29 will eliminate the sub-channel and go to full bandwidth for HDTV when 9 gets changed over to UHF. Strangely, I get great signal strength on 9. 5 is my problem channel, and I've previously identified it as interference from analog channel 19, so I'm hoping that will be solved in February.

It was really strange when the in-laws lost 9-1 and 9-2 months ago all of a sudden and 9-3 popped up in their place. As someone in the know about all this stuff I even had to take a step back and figure out what happened (I don't think KMBC did a good job explaining it to the public at all). Imagine the conversation when I explained to them that 9-3 isn't actually the same as 9-1 or 9-2 -- because they're really on 7, but instead it's actually on 29 just like 29-1...well, that's about when their eyes glazed over.

Question...

I don't live in Kansas City (I live in Albuquerque) but I understand that KMBC is presenting the syndicated shows like Ellen, Oprah and Entertainment Tonight in HD. Is that really true? I am getting a story from our local ABC station (owned by the same company as your station) that they cannot present those shows to us in HD since they are broadcast in 1080i and the station broadcasts in 720p and they cannot convert them. Is your KMBC station broadcasting in 720p? If so, how does your station pull it off?

Yes KMBC is broadcasting those shows in HD. They had some trouble with their automation server but recently got that fixed as well as a glitch with closed captioning.

KMBC-DT our ABC station broadcasts in 1080i instead of 720p. This has been the case since they moved to their new broadcast studio last year.

Most of the problems mentioned above that are a result of broadcasters maintaining both analogue and digital, is exactly why there shouldn't be a delay in the analogue shut-off. Those who have complied should not be held up by those who have not. Procrastinators will delay taking action till the last minute whether the shut-off is delayed or not. If Congress does vote on this, I would encourage contacting members to let our views be known.

Yes KMBC is broadcasting those shows in HD. They had some trouble with their automation server but recently got that fixed as well as a glitch with closed captioning.

Is Oprah in HD? Last time I checked it was not. ET is in HD. None of the rebroadcasts on KCWE have been in HD.

Are these channels Entcrypted or Clear QAM for Everest/Surewest?

Thanks,

Speaking of Clear QAM... I did a scan with my TV today and with Time Warner Cable Overland Park I'm getting VS-HD on 115.483

.......I hope 29 will eliminate the sub-channel and go to full bandwidth for HDTV when 9 gets changed over to UHF. Strangely, I get great signal strength on 9. 5 is my problem channel, and I've previously identified it as interference from analog channel 19, so I'm hoping that will be solved in February.

The reason they are broadcasting 9-3 on 29's subchannel now is because they can't broadcast full-power on digital channel 7 in all directions, due to interference with another channel 7 down south. A lot of folks in the south Overland Park and Olathe areas (and farther south) can't receive 9-1 or 9-2.

After the transition, they will replicate their current channel 9 analog coverage area with the new digital signal on channel 29. I would expect that we will see some testing on 29 digital (test patterns) sometime before Feb 17th (since 29 analog is now off the air).

It seems very odd to me that you'd be seeing interference on KCTV (24 digital) from KCPT's analog (19). I wonder if it could have something to do with KCPT's STL signal, which originates on the same tower as KCTV's analog and digital signals. I have no idea what frequency that would be on, and I doubt that that's it, but it's the only thing I can think of. :confused:

Brad

It seems very odd to me that you'd be seeing interference on KCTV (24 digital) from KCPT's analog (19). I wonder if it could have something to do with KCPT's STL signal, which originates on the same tower as KCTV's analog and digital signals. I have no idea what frequency that would be on, and I doubt that that's it, but it's the only thing I can think of. :confused:

Brad

It could definitely happen. I know the Fox station in Philadelphia couldn't turn up their digital signal on channel 42 because it would mutually interfere with an analog on 39.

We'll see after the transition. =)

- Trip

It seems very odd to me that you'd be seeing interference on KCTV (24 digital) from KCPT's analog (19). I wonder if it could have something to do with KCPT's STL signal, which originates on the same tower as KCTV's analog and digital signals. I have no idea what frequency that would be on, and I doubt that that's it, but it's the only thing I can think of. :confused:

Brad

Well, I verified this back a couple of years ago. Channel 19 at the time was turning off their digital transmitter before they turned off the analog at night. Exactly at the time they shut down the analog transmitter, Channel 5.1 (24 digital) would suddenly come to life with a signal strength in the 90s. During the day I get about 30-50. My TV tuner is able to lock onto it, but my satellite's OTA receiver is not. Right now I'm getting 0 on the satellite OTA receiver, and 43 on the TV (all other stations are 76 or greater). It's the only station that currently causes any issues for me.

Speaking of Clear QAM... I did a scan with my TV today and with Time Warner Cable Overland Park I'm getting VS-HD on 115.483

That sub-channel looks a little odd to me, but anyway from what I can tell, Time Warner is using channels 109 - 116 for what appears to me to be SDV of the HD channels. I could be wrong but it seems everytime I look into those channels they are a little different but all HD. From what I understand, most of newer HD channels the've added are using SDV. Looking at the SiliconDust.com channel lineup you can regularly spot food channel and Hallmark channel all HD in that range. It's kind of interesting to hit the SiliconDust site while scanning.

Is anyone else seeing a lot of digital artifacts on HD channels from SureWest (Everest)? I started seeing a lot of break-up this morning. It only occurs on HD channels, not analog or digital cable channels.

Thanks!

I think it was an SDV channel, as it is gone now and comes up as "Scrambled"

Friday the 23rd is my last day with Time Warner as I switch to Everest/SureWest.

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineupui?Cmd=LocationProgramsWeb&Country=US&Postcode=66062 Lots of unknown's for Olathe.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/att011609.htm More HD CHannel AT&T U-Verse customers coming soon.

I did not know KMBC channel 7 was not a full power. No wonder I can;t get it.
So far I love OTA HD, crystal clear.

Kelly

I did not know KMBC channel 7 was not a full power. No wonder I can;t get it.
So far I love OTA HD, crystal clear.

Kelly

Technically it is at full power in the FCC's eyes, but being on VHF makes it a bit of a challenge to receive without the proper antenna.

Even with their directional antenna, KMBC's 85 kW signal is VERY powerful for VHF. But UHF is definitely a better place to be for easy reception.

- Trip

I noticed that Time Warner Cable has switched the feed of KTWU the PBS station in Topeka from KTWU's Analog transmitter to KTWU-DT 11.2. Since the change they've had all kinds of reception issues (at night you can see the DTV receiver messages pop up saying low signal and it says KTWUDT 11.2 in the corner. Currently they have video with no sound.

I think this is the only local station Time Warner feeds over analog cable that they get over the air instead of a fiber link. I wonder if they will have to find a way to get KTWU via Satellite?

Personally I think KTWU is a better PBS station than KCPT. I know KTWU carries a 1080i HDTV stream 24 hours per day instead of 12 hours like KCPT.

Is anyone else seeing a lot of digital artifacts on HD channels from SureWest (Everest)? I started seeing a lot of break-up this morning. It only occurs on HD channels, not analog or digital cable channels.

I noticed this again this morning. I'll amend my previous statement by saying it only seems to effect local digital stations. HBOHD, Showtime HD, etc. do not seem to suffer from this problem.

I noticed this again this morning. I'll amend my previous statement by saying it only seems to effect local digital stations. HBOHD, Showtime HD, etc. do not seem to suffer from this problem.

Yes - I see it as well and also have had some issues with audio sync being way off. This especially occurs on KSHB-HD.

Anyone here in Lee's Summit notice that on TWC channel 1060 that they are showing the Lee's Summit community channel (channel 2) instead of FOX News HD? I called in yesterday to complain about it. They said it was take 30 minutes to fix. Still not working as of tonight. I called in again tonight, but after half of an hour on hold, I hung up.

Maybe it's in HD know and they are moving Fox News HD to some where else in Lees Summit.

http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2009/01/27/daily.11/ IONTV HD coming later this year for KC area.

DOT2 Network pushed backed to April so when March Madness is over one the flow channels will stay for DOT2 Network but moved out of the Sports Section.
None of Scripps Channels have RTN yet.
This TV will have to wait intill KMBC gets moved.
Best is Universal Sports Network or 24/7 Local News Channel.

Personally I think KTWU is a better PBS station than KCPT. I know KTWU carries a 1080i HDTV stream 24 hours per day instead of 12 hours like KCPT.

I always wondered why the TVGOS and TitanTV listings for PBS showed content on 19.4 when KCPT 19.4 was off the air (after 6).

About the DTV thing, aren't some analog channels already turned off?

On Everest/SureWest I have noticed the last two nights that Toon Disney HD listings in the guide are showing the programming for Cartoon Network HD.

Hi All,

I wonder if the DTV delay will mean that there will also be a delay in further subchannels from our local broadcasters?

I was hoping that someone would stream the RTN network (Retro TV Network - think the original TV Land) and Dot2 network soon.

Michael

Hi All,

I wonder if the DTV delay will mean that there will also be a delay in further subchannels from our local broadcasters?

I was hoping that someone would stream the RTN network (Retro TV Network - think the original TV Land) and Dot2 network soon.

Michael

Dot2 won't launch til April. Dunno about RTN.

If anything, you're more likely to get MGM's "This TV" network, which is now has carriage agreements covering more than 60% of the country. Once KMBC-DT moves to 29 and 9-3 reverts to being 29-2, I wonder if it'll pop up there, as Hearst does have a deal for it on their stations in Tampa FL and Harrisburg PA...

Again, that's no confirmation, just speculation on my part.

- Trip

KCTV is now running a revised DTV notice stating that they will pull the Feb. 17th regardless of any delays. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone else follows suit given the extra cost to run the analog transmitter.

NATE (The National Association of Tower Erectors) Urges Washington to Stick to DTV Transition Deadline (http://in.sys-con.com/node/821088)

edit: I didn't realize that the senate bill says that the delay is optional, so I agree, probably all the stations in the area will go ahead on Feb 17th. They already have contracts in place that depend on the date (tower and equipment leases.)

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/162898-DTV_Delay_Bill_Fails_To_Pass_In_House.php

DTV-Delay Bill Fails To Pass In House

House falls short of 2/3 majority required to approve moving date of DTV transition

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/28/2009 11:02:08 AM MT

The House Wednesday failed to follow the Senate's lead and pass a DTV date-change bill, putting the move of the DTV transition date in doubt after all the momentum seemed to be moving toward the four-month delay to June 12.

It was also something of a defeat for the Obama administration, which had pushed Congress to move the date, citing the problems in distributing DTV-to-analog converter box coupons and a lack of funding for DTV education. Republicans pushed back hard, saying it was a solution in search of a problem.

The vote was 258 to 168 in favor of changing the date, but under House expedited rules, a 2/3 majority was required for approval.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/162898-dtv_delay_bill_fails_to_pass_in_house.php

dtv-delay bill fails to pass in house

house falls short of 2/3 majority required to approve moving date of dtv transition

by john eggerton -- broadcasting & cable, 1/28/2009 11:02:08 am mt

the house wednesday failed to follow the senate's lead and pass a dtv date-change bill, putting the move of the dtv transition date in doubt after all the momentum seemed to be moving toward the four-month delay to june 12.

It was also something of a defeat for the obama administration, which had pushed congress to move the date, citing the problems in distributing dtv-to-analog converter box coupons and a lack of funding for dtv education. Republicans pushed back hard, saying it was a solution in search of a problem.

The vote was 258 to 168 in favor of changing the date, but under house expedited rules, a 2/3 majority was required for approval.

thank goodness! No delay!

Senate Approves Tweaked DTV Delay Bill
Jan 30, 2009

-By Katy Bachman, Mediaweek


NEW YORK The U.S. Senate late Thursday passed a revised version of the digital TV conversion delay bill it had approved earlier in the week. One again, the bill, designed to move the DTV transition deadline from Feb. 17 to June 12, zipped through by unanimous consent.

Changes in the Senate bill were minor, but were made in anticipation of the measure going up again in the House of Representatives when that body reconvenes next week.

Under suspended rules, the House of on Wednesday defeated the Senate's first version of the legislation by a two-thirds vote.

This time around, Democrats intend for the bill to go through normal channels and only require a simple majority to pass.

Meanwhile, Republicans are still pushing for legislation aimed at funneling more funds to the federal coupon program set up to help defray the cost of converter boxes consumers will need to allow older TV sets to display images from digital signals.

Even if they delay the DTV switch, almost every TV station is still turning off their Analog transmitter on Feb. 17. All of the Topeka and Wichita markets have already said they're switching Feb. 17 no matter what.

Talk about mass confusion!

http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2009/01/lawrence-your-l.html back on KMBC/KCWE and that's good.

Technically it is at full power in the FCC's eyes, but being on VHF makes it a bit of a challenge to receive without the proper antenna.

Even with their directional antenna, KMBC's 85 kW signal is VERY powerful for VHF. But UHF is definitely a better place to be for easy reception.

- Trip

Thanks! So what will be the new channel assignments be once the deadline passes? Will we have to re-scan for channels? Not sure.

Kelly

They will be taking physical channel 29 (they shut down KCWE analog so they could start moving in the equipment for it). You will need to rescan, as channel 7 will go to KQTV-DT in St Joseph.

- Trip

They will be taking physical channel 29 (they shut down KCWE analog so they could start moving in the equipment for it). You will need to rescan, as channel 7 will go to KQTV-DT in St Joseph.

- Trip

And KOAM-DT in Pittsburg, Kansas

On TWC, over the last couple of days I am no longer getting FX HD and USA HD. It's on my program guide, but it's locked...as if it's a channel I have to subscribe to. What happened to "Free HD"? Is this happening to anyone else? It's pretty annoying if they're going to back down from their Free HD mantra and start picking and choosing what is free.

I've had this happen 2-3 times with various HD channels over the last few months.

Try rebooting the box, then call Customer Service. They can do a remote procedure that will fix the problem.

On TWC, over the last couple of days I am no longer getting FX HD and USA HD. It's on my program guide, but it's locked...as if it's a channel I have to subscribe to. What happened to "Free HD"? Is this happening to anyone else? It's pretty annoying if they're going to back down from their Free HD mantra and start picking and choosing what is free.

Tried it today to no avail. I'll see if it's better the morning and call them again to see if they can do something else.

Yes KMBC is broadcasting those shows in HD. They had some trouble with their automation server but recently got that fixed as well as a glitch with closed captioning.

KMBC-DT our ABC station broadcasts in 1080i instead of 720p. This has been the case since they moved to their new broadcast studio last year.

DirecTV viewers only see this in 720p. I have native mode turned on and it clearly goes to 720p when I pull up KMBC.

I saw last night on 127 Retirement Living TV Channel but not a channel like SHOPNBC or so on added.

Tried it today to no avail. I'll see if it's better the morning and call them again to see if they can do something else.

Check your parental blocking setting. I had a couple locked HD channels like that, and it was because that setting turned itself on. Those channels don't require a subscription, as far as I know.

My Panasonic HDTV watching Over-The-Air shows KMBC 9.1 as 1080i and WDAF 4.1 is the only channel that is 720p.

Check your parental blocking setting. I had a couple locked HD channels like that, and it was because that setting turned itself on. Those channels don't require a subscription, as far as I know.
Thanks for the info. You're right, they don't require a subscription. They tout the "free HD" on the radio all the time, so I'm hoping it's just a mystery parental block. I've never even messed with the block settings before. I hope there's not some kind of password that would have been set up to ensure that the channel stays locked.

I've never even messed with the block settings before. I hope there's not some kind of password that would have been set up to ensure that the channel stays locked.

I'd never messed with mine before I checked out of curiosity when I was wondering why my channels were locked and found it on. The default password is all zeros.

I had this happen to me (with the TWC Box) and I had to call and have them "reauthorize" the box and then the channels showed up.

NEW! On or after 2/18/2009

Primetime On Demand will be added to our channel lineup.
Also TWCKC.COM is and updated Website.

Channel 124 is gone from Comcast notice this Afternoon and next will be 123 so Oxgyen can move there,125,126 so ION Life and Qubo can go there so that leaves a empty channel.

http://kansascity.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2009/02/02/daily50.html?ana=e_du_pap All Channels going Digital on the 17th.

Your forgetting about Metro Sports,Metro Weather,KMBC Firts Alert,KSHB Weather Plus,KUKC,Olathe Goverment Channel,Johnson County Educational Channel and so on

Digital transition delayed.

Fox 4 just said on the air, that they are shutting off analog on 2/17 as planned.

Please post what you find out about other local stations.

I remember reading a article, somewhere a few days ago that said all broadcasters that service Kansas, including the Kansas City market would shut down on schedule on the 17th, as it is just not in their budget to keep analog going for an additional couple of months.

Channel 5 is running notifications as well they're going on 2/17.

From what Trip's data shows 4, 5, and 62 go as scheduled on 2/17. 9 is awaitng word from the FCC on how to proceed, they stated on First News that they're ready to go 2/17 (and I take that as 29 is ready, so why not turn it on!?)

The Kansas Association of Broadcasters sent out a note saying all of the Topeka, Wichita, and Pittsburg markets are going digital only on Feb. 17. Most of Kansas City, if not all, is expected to go.

KCWE is already Digital
KCTV said they are going 2/17
KSMO said they are going 2/17
WDAF said they are going 2/17

No word yet from KMCI, KSHB, KPXE, KCPT, KMBC

"Gannett Co. and Hearst-Argyle Television Inc. also pledged to maintain the vast majority of their stations on analog, Copps said. They own or operate 52 stations"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29041421

:(

Good article this morning in the KC Star from TV Barn...

KC likely to turn on digital TV earlier

http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/1020394.html

Sounds like 5, 38 and 41 are a go as well

Received an email from Channel 4 today that they are stay with analog until the new deadline.

Received an email from Channel 4 today that they are stay with analog until the new deadline.

No surprise there. They've drug their feet on everything related to going digital. I guess they've got to stay in the running for the last TV station to turn off analog.

KC likely to turn on digital TV earlierl

Poor title for the article. Digital TV has been "turned on" for a long time.

Meredith Corp folds under pressure like a cheap suit.

http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2009/02/06/daily.11/

So much for KCTV and KSMO going out on the 17th. I expect KMCI/KSHB to probably follow suit next week, therefore keeping all of KC's analogs on the air until at least spring.

Does anybody know if WDAF will ever broadcast a local or syndicated show in high definition? The only show that I'm interested in is the syndicated "Seinfeld" which is listed as HD for WDAF on Zap2it but is not actually broadcast in HD.

Does anybody know if WDAF will ever broadcast a local or syndicated show in high definition? The only show that I'm interested in is the syndicated "Seinfeld" which is listed as HD for WDAF on Zap2it but is not actually broadcast in HD.

They are not producing anything locally in HD and when the question is asked to when that will happen, no one ever gets an answer.

Does anybody know if WDAF will ever broadcast a local or syndicated show in high definition? The only show that I'm interested in is the syndicated "Seinfeld" which is listed as HD for WDAF on Zap2it but is not actually broadcast in HD.

WDAF has been dragging their heels as much as possible on digital and HD. If you remember they were doing "experimental" digital with a 1 watt transmitter and an antenna barely high enough to clear the roof of their building. They were the last station in Kansas City to put up a real digital transmitter (decent height and wattage). Until becoming a Fox affiliate they were the leader of EVERYTHING in Kansas City, first TV station, first with a 5 o'clock news, first with stereo sound, first news helicopter, etc. I'm glad to see that they are taking some pride in their 60th anniversary, and will be showing some historical footage. It certainly would be nice to see them try to compete for first place in the Kansas City market again.

Yes, when they were NBC, they were a great station, ever since the affiliation switch, things ahve gone down hill. Their newscasts aren't as good, either... Mike Thompson is a freaking buffoon, and Don Harmon couldn't get a forecast right to save his life. I sure miss Dan Henry.

My Panasonic HDTV watching Over-The-Air shows KMBC 9.1 as 1080i and WDAF 4.1 is the only channel that is 720p.


Hmmmm, my Magnavox 37mf437b/37 does not show that unless I have a setting not on.

I too am ready for Wdaf 4.1 to go HD news.

Kelly

DirecTV viewers only see this in 720p. I have native mode turned on and it clearly goes to 720p when I pull up KMBC.
KMBC and KCWE both broadcast in 1080I format. We convert the ABC from 720 to 1080 as soon as we get it in studio as it makes it better to route one format for recording and playout. If you are seeing 720 they are converting what we are broadcasting.

Anyone with Dishnetwork been noticing pixelation and stuttering on the local HD Channels? Ever since the switch to Ciel 2 last Thurs, I have noticed pixelation on the lower 25% of the screen on 2 different receivers(622 & 211)

KMBC and KCWE both broadcast in 1080I format. We convert the ABC from 720 to 1080 as soon as we get it in studio as it makes it better to route one format for recording and playout. If you are seeing 720 they are converting what we are broadcasting.

Hey Beamon,

Curious as to whether you know if KMBC will be turning on the HD signal for southern viewers (like Lawrence) when Pittsburgh's analog stations go off the air on the 17th. I thought I read that there was signal interference and that was keeping HD KMBC from reaching viewers to the south.

Thanks as I'm missing Lost in HD! :)

I guess the delay is official for all the KC stations according to the announcement Friday as reported on 41. I guess that is better than the confusion of some shutting down and some not, even though I don't agree with it. The manager or engineer being interviewed for the story mentioned they were going to have to push back raising their digital channel antenna to the top of their tower, scheduled for April, until after the shutdown. This is the kind of information I would love to see regularly instead of the usual sounds of silence. It would have been nice if he had explained what that would mean reception wise. Local broadcasters have our eyes and ears several times a day, but say very little about any of this. Maybe they would rather receive tens or hundreds of emails and phone calls that they can answer individually or ignore.

Hey Beamon,

Curious as to whether you know if KMBC will be turning on the HD signal for southern viewers (like Lawrence) when Pittsburgh's analog stations go off the air on the 17th. I thought I read that there was signal interference and that was keeping HD KMBC from reaching viewers to the south.

Thanks as I'm missing Lost in HD! :)

As long as KMBC-DT stays on channel 7, their signal won't change - their channel 7 antenna is set up for lower power to the south. I'm not sure why that affects Lawrence, however. A lot of people in Lawrence get KMBC just fine, I think. All that being said, we'll all be better off when they go to channel 29. I think I heard over the weekend that ALL KC stations have agreed amongst themselves to delay until June 12. :mad:

Brad

Probley 248 on Comcast because KMBC First Alert is on 247 and the Hearst Angyle who own's KMBC has a contract with them.
I hope Comcast move lots of Channels to the Digital side pretty soon here so more HD/SD Channels can be added.

Know we just need to now when KMCI/Metro Weather and Sports are going HD? What Channels DOT2 Network and RTN,Universal Sports and 24/7 Local News Channel will be on.

KMBC is pre-empting ABC programming for a news special, and not only is it not in HD, it isn't even widescreen! They still show the 9HD logo though.

While I'm at it, what is up with KMBC doing SD widescreen shots of the weather center on the 10PM news? They'll show Brian Busby from one angle in HD, then switch to another camera which is clearly SD. It looks terrible. If you're going to do HD in the studio, stick to HD.

I actually called that guy they interviewed on 41. He said KMBC 7 was going to 29 for reception issues. Being the only VHF signal in a UHF town was hurting viewership. He also said KMCI 36 is moving to 41 and KSHB 42 is staying on 42. I asked him why the confusion. Replacing the top mount analog antenna with a 2 channel one will allow both KSHB and KMCI to broadcast from a top mount and fix the pattern they were issued with the FCC. He also said they would be doubling the output power on both stations to the max.

I asked why he didn't state that in the news interview...it all was edited out by news.

as a side note-he stated they went HD in the field with news (with several issues to still work on-he didn't give details) I hadn't noticed but will watch and see

It looks like KCWE is adding a subchannel...

Around March 1st, TWC is adding a new channel called "KCWE This TV, 1432". KCWE is currently 1431 on TWC right now.

It looks like the subchannel could be This TV Network, which is a joint venture of MGM and Weigel Broadcasting Co.

http://mgm.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=559.

Anyone hearing anything about this?

It looks like KCWE is adding a subchannel...

Around March 1st, TWC is adding a new channel called "KCWE This TV, 1432". KCWE is currently 1431 on TWC right now.

It looks like the subchannel could be This TV Network, which is a joint venture of MGM and Weigel Broadcasting Co.

http://mgm.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=559.

Anyone hearing anything about this?

Subchannels are always bad news for HD - they just take bandwidth from the main (HD) channel. If this was just a daytime channel, it wouldn't be so bad, but this one is 24/7. Luckily, we don't watch anything on CW except "Reaper."

All that being said, I don't think this will really happen on March 1, due to the delay of the digital transition. KCWE is currently transmitting KMBC 9.3 on its subchannel, and probably will until KMBC moves to digital channel 29. This MAY happen before the analog shutdown in June, but we don't know a date yet.

Brad

I actually called that guy they interviewed on 41. He said KMBC 7 was going to 29 for reception issues. Being the only VHF signal in a UHF town was hurting viewership. He also said KMCI 36 is moving to 41 and KSHB 42 is staying on 42. I asked him why the confusion. Replacing the top mount analog antenna with a 2 channel one will allow both KSHB and KMCI to broadcast from a top mount and fix the pattern they were issued with the FCC. He also said they would be doubling the output power on both stations to the max.

I asked why he didn't state that in the news interview...it all was edited out by news.

as a side note-he stated they went HD in the field with news (with several issues to still work on-he didn't give details) I hadn't noticed but will watch and see

That is great news about 41... they're the only KC station I can't get consistently. I was able to watch last night's Sports Sunday extra and the highlights from Manhattan were in glorious HD. 41 is the one to watch for local HD.

Thanks for sharing that, Nantucket.

I forgot to add that in the latest TWC legal notice is this gem:

"On or after 2/18, KCPT-3 (1404) will no longer broadcast."

Is Channel 19 dropping the 19.3 subchannel, or is TWC just dropping it from their lineup?

We can only hope that KCPT-DT drops the 3rd sub-channel and goes HD 24/7

EDIT:

I just checked the KCPT website and both 19.3 and 19.4 both stop program listings on the 18th.

How about Comcast and the others?

Subchannels are always bad news for HD - they just take bandwidth from the main (HD) channel. If this was just a daytime channel, it wouldn't be so bad, but this one is 24/7. Luckily, we don't watch anything on CW except "Reaper."

All that being said, I don't think this will really happen on March 1, due to the delay of the digital transition. KCWE is currently transmitting KMBC 9.3 on its subchannel, and probably will until KMBC moves to digital channel 29. This MAY happen before the analog shutdown in June, but we don't know a date yet.

Brad
Until we see an STA filed from KMBC they're staying on VHF 7 until 6/12 like it or not. As the DTV delay act says...

"4. We remind stations that they may complete construction of their post-transition digital facilities before June 12 at 11:59:59 pm, but may not operate such facilities before 12:00 am June 13, 2009 (local time) without express Commission approval because operation of a facility that has been authorized for post-transition but not pre-transition service could cause impermissible interference to pretransition broadcasting. Therefore, stations that wish to operate a post-transition facility before 12:00 am June 13, 2009 (local time) must request special temporary authority (STA) from the Commission via the “DTV engineering STA,” including the appropriate engineering analysis."

Are any of the local analog transmitters going to be shut down today? So far it looks like no changes. All analog stations are broadcasting except for 29, which I understand was shut down some time ago.

I just found an answer to my own question. No changes today.

KCPT KCTV KMBC-TV KPXE KSHB-TV KSMO-TV WDAF-TV KMCI are all listed as continuing analog broadcasting beyond 2/17.

I can't tune KCWE this morning on my Sony DHG-HDD250
edit: I can now, after I rescanned the channels.

I can also get 19.3 and 19.4

I can't tune KCWE this morning on my Sony DHG-HDD250
edit: I can now, after I rescanned the channels.

I can also get 19.3 and 19.4

I went home for lunch and I've lost KMBC 9.3 and KCWE 29 completely. Even after rescans. I'm guessing KMBC and KCWE are doing something with the transmitters today.

p.s. I'm in Lawrence and I'm getting all the KC digital channels right now..just no KMBC and KCWE

Update: I did a rescan at 2:45 and I have 9.3 and 29.1 back as well as 19.1-4

KCWE 29 shut down their analog some time ago. It's been off for at least several weeks.

KCWE 29.1 is on, but if you're using a DirecTV receiver for OTA, DirecTV is incorrectly mapping it to receive digital channel 29 instead of 31, so you end up with "no signal".

I am receiving 9.3 and it's mapped to receive from channel 31 (31.2), just as it was before. (DirecTV maps 9.3 to receive from 7.1)

Until we see an STA filed from KMBC they're staying on VHF 7 until 6/12 like it or not. As the DTV delay act says...

"4. We remind stations that they may complete construction of their post-transition digital facilities before June 12 at 11:59:59 pm, but may not operate such facilities before 12:00 am June 13, 2009 (local time) without express Commission approval because operation of a facility that has been authorized for post-transition but not pre-transition service could cause impermissible interference to pretransition broadcasting. Therefore, stations that wish to operate a post-transition facility before 12:00 am June 13, 2009 (local time) must request special temporary authority (STA) from the Commission via the “DTV engineering STA,” including the appropriate engineering analysis."

I guess that settles that. I understand the intent of the rule, but in KMBC's case, they would be broadcasting on a channel formerly used for a full-power analog transmitter, which didn't interfere with anyone else's transmitter. I also understand that digital is more aggressive with regards to interference with analog, so I suppose it's a "better safe than sorry" thing. I'm sure they would really like to change over, though, and get it over with.

Brad

Hello AVS Forum. On Thursday February 19th at 9AM, KMBC will be switching it’s DTV transmitter from a VHF to a UHF channel. Although KMBC-DT was one of the first DTV stations in the Kansas City Market, being the lone station in KC transmitting in the VHF band has been problematic. Another issue that has plagued some of our viewers to the south of the City is the fact that in order to protect a TV station in Pittsburgh Kansas from interference, the FCC required KMBC to shape it’s signal to send out less power to the south. So for a paltry cost of $1.2 million and a ton of work, KMBC’s new transmitter will be transmitting at a full 1,000 kilowatts of DTV power and the antenna pattern is omnidirectional or a full circle and for you tech types, we've got some vertical component as well. Initial tests show that the new transmitter is sending enough power to more than fill in the gaps that we had with our VHF signal and being UHF, now our viewers will only need a UHF antenna rather than a VHF/UHF combo. We find that UHF is much more “rabbit ear” friendly as well.

We are looking forward to better serving our audience, however, we’re going to ask that on Thursday morning, after 9AM our viewers perform a channel scan on their digital TVs and converter boxes. This will “teach” the devices where to find KMBC-DT’s new home. Viewers with a paid TV delivery service such as cable or satellite will not have to do anything. Those viewers who have yet to upgrade to digital will also be protected as KMBC analog will remain on the air until June 12th. Soon, 9-3 will go away to make room for a second full time entertainment channel on KCWE-DT. Now that we've got a flamethrower for KMBC, there's no need for 9-3. More to come about 29.2 when I'm at liberty to spill the beans but look for something new and fun in March......TI

Thank you!

Awesome news!! Thanks so much for the update.

Thanks, TI. It's nice to see you back on the forum - it's been way too long.

Thanks much for the update, T.I. I'm sure our friends down south will see a big difference!

Brad

It's going to be This TV. Now if it's going to be a 24/7 Local News Channel by them then it's News to us people here.
Then maybe Comcast will move it by the other Spanish soon for more space.
Oh good opens a space on Comcast for more HD/SD on the Digital side we can hope.



Toon Disney is now Disney XD.
On or after 2/18, KCPT-3 (1404) will no longer broadcast.


Moves on or after 3/5

Nat GEO OD (142) to News & World OD (141)
Independent Film Channel (287) to 286.


Drops on or after 3/20

MoviePlex, 270


NEW! On or after 2/18

Primetime OD, 111


NEW! on or after 3/1

KCWE This TV, 1432
TVSUPERSTORE, 82


NEW! on or after 3/20

Starz OD, 118 & 367
RetroPlex, 289
IndiePlex, 287

It appears that KCPT-4 has signed off for good, anyone trying to tune to it today will just get a blank screen or a redirect to 19-1, 19-3 on the other hand is still alive and well (sadly). Also KUKC-LP appears to have finally bit the dust as well as I see nothing but static and their website appears to have been taken down. If you remember KUKC's owner Equity Broadcasting was scheduled to pull their analogs off yesterday due to their recent bankruptcy filing.

KCPT twittered today that 19-3 is now going to be PBS Create 24/7. Who knows what this will do to PBS HD on 19-2. Hopefully it, too, will be 24/7 in HD.

I noticed that KCPT is in HD on Everest/SureWest cable... but with no audio.

I just did a channel scan and I've lost 9.1. I still have 9.3 however. Anyone else in the same boat? 9.3 is only 720p instead of 1080p :(