I was reading TVPredictions.com and came across this:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcasthd120907.htm

I wonder if that's going to happen here as well or if the channels that came on December 6th were all for the year.

As much as I'd love to see this happen, this is basically what I've been reading all year about other Comcast markets that are smaller than Seattle. This says Salt Lake City will be getting the new Discovery Networks in HD, and I'm pretty sure Oregon gets those channels today. So I'm hoping this means we might getting these by March if the pattern is consistant.

As of last night, most of the channels were NOT encrypted and found them at 670-673 (and a few other spots) on my cable card. I did not have time to figure out what each channel was, though I thought one was History HD. I guess they could turn encryption on soon?

Since they are on cable card, I assume my other TV with QAM but no cable card should also be able to view them if I can locate them? Anyone figured out where on QAM they are?


What level of service do you subscribe to? I would think that the cable card would allow you to tune certain of the encrypted channels, depending on your plan, which would not be available with QAM only.

As of last night, most of the channels were NOT encrypted and found them at 670-673 (and a few other spots) on my cable card. I did not have time to figure out what each channel was, though I thought one was History HD. I guess they could turn encryption on soon?

Since they are on cable card, I assume my other TV with QAM but no cable card should also be able to view them if I can locate them? Anyone figured out where on QAM they are?

You're making an assumption that channels received via CableCard are also in-the-clear via QAM tuner. Remember, a cablecard is primarily a security device for decrypting secure content. The remapping of QAM frequencies to match the publicly displayed lineup is just one piece of it. Although I have not looked for any of the new channels via QAM, it's a good bet that they're all encrypted, or soon will be. If they weren't, people with only a Limited Cable could get HD versions of channels that require Expanded Basic as a minimum buy-through. That wouldn't be consistent with what they've been using digital encryption to do, generally.

I thought all the HD channels on digital classic were moving to Digital starter.

The HD versions of SD channels available on digital starter were moved to digital starter as well, for consistency. NGC was never part of digital starter therefore it is logical for NGCHD to launch on Digital Classic, with it's SD counterpart.

It was never said that all HD channels on Classic were moving to Starter. The channels moving were listed out and NGCHD wasn't mentioned.

Seems like Comcast is playing the QAM shuffle again...anyone else missing KIRO? North Seattle/Lake City area here.

Seems like Comcast is playing the QAM shuffle again...anyone else missing KIRO? North Seattle/Lake City area here.

Hasn't moved for me yet (South everett/mill creek area).

As of yesterday 660 (UHD) and 661 (MTVHD) disappeared for me. Was getting them, but now they are gone. Still get the other HD channels in this upper range 662-673. I have 2 M cards in a TiVo S3. Comcast in Seattle w/ Digital Classic and Digital Preferred packages.

Are these 2 channels (660 and 661) still working for other folks in Seattle?

Edit...still no TiVo guide data for new HD channels 670-673.

Thanks

What level of service do you subscribe to? I would think that the cable card would allow you to tune certain of the encrypted channels, depending on your plan, which would not be available with QAM only.

I've got the expanded basic cable...about 45.99$ per month...not a digital package ...looks like there are various other new HD channels (Mojo, AE, etc) in the 660-673 range...Unless I am confused (which is possible), each of those should map to a QAM channel in the format XXX-XX? , so I can at least check on my other TV to see if they are encrypted or not? Also have found espn and espn2 in HD ...where is discovery and NationalGeographic in HD? Those are what I want...

Hi hummingbird_206,

I have not use any card but HD box/DVR and it's still there.
ch660 -UHD, ch661-MHD

I was trying twice in the past but no success. So, I gave up.
Now I have another TV (Pioneer Elite Pro-150FD) and considering to install one.

I've got the expanded basic cable...about 45.99$ per month...not a digital package ...looks like there are various other new HD channels (Mojo, AE, etc) in the 660-673 range...Unless I am confused (which is possible), each of those should map to a QAM channel in the format XXX-XX? , so I can at least check on my other TV to see if they are encrypted or not? Also have found espn and espn2 in HD ...where is discovery and NationalGeographic in HD? Those are what I want...

I can't see any of the non-local HD channels with QAM, but apparently your cablecard has been empowered to access them. Interesting to know that this is possible without a digital package. I doubt that you'll get NGC-HD (673). The only HD Discovery channel here is HD Theater, which is 663.

As of yesterday 660 (UHD) and 661 (MTVHD) disappeared for me. Was getting them, but now they are gone. Still get the other HD channels in this upper range 662-673. I have 2 M cards in a TiVo S3. Comcast in Seattle w/ Digital Classic and Digital Preferred packages.

Are these 2 channels (660 and 661) still working for other folks in Seattle?

Edit...still no TiVo guide data for new HD channels 670-673.

Thanks

I just checked and 660 and 661 are working fine for me, but I'm using the Comcast 3416 box. Yesterday however, MyQ 110 and USA-HD 672 were both out with a message saying "this channel will be back shortly" or something like that...
As of today USA-HD is working but still no 110, anyone else having the same problem?

I can't see any of the non-local HD channels with QAM, but apparently your cablecard has been empowered to access them. Interesting to know that this is possible without a digital package. I doubt that you'll get NGC-HD (673). The only HD Discovery channel here is HD Theater, which is 663.

Shouldn't ALL channels by on QAM somewhere? Granted they may be encrypted so you can't see them, but shouldnt they be there?

I just checked and 660 and 661 are working fine for me, but I'm using the Comcast 3416 box. Yesterday however, MyQ 110 and USA-HD 672 were both out with a message saying "this channel will be back shortly" or something like that...
As of today USA-HD is working but still no 110, anyone else having the same problem?

I'll trade you 110 for 660&661 :D Yeah, 110 works for me, but still no joy on 660 and 661. Guess I'll have to break down and call Comcast :(

I've got the expanded basic cable...about 45.99$ per month...not a digital package ...looks like there are various other new HD channels (Mojo, AE, etc) in the 660-673 range...Unless I am confused (which is possible), each of those should map to a QAM channel in the format XXX-XX? , so I can at least check on my other TV to see if they are encrypted or not? Also have found espn and espn2 in HD ...where is discovery and NationalGeographic in HD? Those are what I want...

No they don't map to unencrypted QAM stations. for HD in QAM you only get the locals. You have to have a cable card to get the HD versions of stations you subscribe to beyond the locals as these stations are encrypted. That's how it works at my house (I have a cable card set).

EDIT: I think they should be on QAM even if they are encrypted - but there'd be no way to know since I can't display encrypted stations.

I'll trade you 110 for 660&661 :D Yeah, 110 works for me, but still no joy on 660 and 661. Guess I'll have to break down and call Comcast :(

Yeah I don't think I ever watch much on 110 anyways, but for some reason it still doesn't show up for me.... tried rebooting the box and still no go. I'm not sure how long it's been not working but I first noticed it yesterday, so thought maybe that channel was dumped or something, but looks like you are getting it, so not sure what the problem is.

No they don't map to unencrypted QAM stations. for HD in QAM you only get the locals. You have to have a cable card to get the HD versions of stations you subscribe to beyond the locals as these stations are encrypted. That's how it works at my house (I have a cable card set).

EDIT: I think they should be on QAM even if they are encrypted - but there'd be no way to know since I can't display encrypted stations.

I think encrypted channels on my TV show a "full strength" signal meter, but no picture...

Has anybody's Tivo updated with the new channel info yet (670-673)? Mine still doesn't recognize them.

My Tivo S3 has had the Channels names listed now for the past 3 days but NO information on programming. It does show A&E, National Geo, USA, etc but none of the new four channels are listing programming as of yet...This is a first. I wonder if TV guide is not doing their work as I read they are being sold.

I have had the channel names on my S3 since last week, but still no schedule information. This seems be common. Here is the Tivocommunity.com link for the same problem.

http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5785230&posted=1#post5785230

I just spoke with a Tivo CSR, who claimed they reported the lack of schedule info to Tribune back on 12/6 after I and several others complained to Tivo that there is no schedule information for the new channels. She said Tribune respondended and indicated that they have contacted Comcast, which has not added the channels to their schedule with Tribune, to get the process started. She said this usually takes 5 to 7 days to fix from the initial complaint. She verified that this process began on 12/6 when everyone innitially complained to Tivo. Accordingly, we should have schedule information today or tomorrow.

I'll trade you 110 for 660&661 :D Yeah, 110 works for me, but still no joy on 660 and 661. Guess I'll have to break down and call Comcast :(

I was having these issues with 110, 670 & 672. I called COMCAST CS and he had me unscrew my from my wall and my box and then screw them back in. This apparently resets the signal sterngth. I thought he was crazy, but I did it anyway and now ALL my channels are coming. It's worht a shot.

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I called COMCAST CS and he had me unscrew my [cable?] from my wall and my box and then screw them back in.
...

The connections probably just needed tightening.

I was having these issues with 110, 670 & 672. I called COMCAST CS and he had me unscrew my from my wall and my box and then screw them back in. This apparently resets the signal sterngth. I thought he was crazy, but I did it anyway and now ALL my channels are coming. It's worht a shot.

I gave it a try, and it worked! Thanks for posting this, you saved me a call and who know how long on hold, plus no guarantee that the tech I'd get would know to try this. Thanks again!

The connections probably just needed tightening.

It's weird, all my cables were tight, And almost all of my channels were coming in great. Just the 3 that I mentioned. Oh well, it seems to have helped at least one person so far.

Weird stuff over here, as well.

I've now lost all my HD channels and all my Digital channels (over 99) are showing shopping channels.

Time to repeat Guided Setup, me thinks...

Edit - That fixed it.

The first 2 weeks Thursday night football looked stunning, tonight I can barely watch it because of bad framerate jitter. Anyone else having this issue?

I've seen this happen before when I first hooked up the cable box and guide info was downloading in the background, but all channels suffered from that and once everything was downloaded it was fine. Tonight other HD channels seem fine, just NFL-HD seems to be having this problem. This is unacceptable to me since I'm paying extra for it.:mad:

Ok I was able to fix the bad framerate by shutting down the box and unplugging it and rebooting. Now it seems fine but now I have to wait for all guide data to load.

Also I still don't have channel 110, don't know what is up with that... it's been out for days. When I go to that channel it says "This channel will be available shortly" but then never switches on. hmmm

Ok I was able to fix the bad framerate by shutting down the box and unplugging it and rebooting. Now it seems fine but now I have to wait for all guide data to load.

Also I still don't have channel 110, don't know what is up with that... it's been out for days. When I go to that channel it says "This channel will be available shortly" but then never switches on. hmmm

NFL-HD looked great tonight, just like last 2 weeks, for me. And I have channel 110. All channels have been fine for me, it was just 660 and 661 that I had trouble with, but after I unplugged from wall as gimmiefuel noted all was right with my HD World. I have an S3 TiVo with 2 M cards in Seattle with Comcast...though still no guide data for the 4 new HD channels :(

I just returned all the HD equipment this morning.

I now just have high-speed modem and a couple of black box (for one of the international channel) with limited cable service.

More likely, I will get Dish network.

Ever since Comcast changed program software, I had problems one after another.
For last few weeks, DVR did not record whatever I programmed. (only 2 seconds each and nothing!?)

More over, they are charging $200 for the HD and Modem service which I think, it"s way OVER!!!!

I will keep in touch and see how Comcast progress in the future.

Yeah, my bill is $210 each month for cable/internet from comcast and I cannot even watch the NFL game on thursdays any more for that fee, but I also have Directv so I get the NFL games in the cheapest package with them...If it were not for the Tivo S3 and the other two dvr's I would go with Directv only but that would be heck to get all the new DVRs for them...

NFL-HD looked great tonight, just like last 2 weeks, for me. And I have channel 110. All channels have been fine for me, it was just 660 and 661 that I had trouble with, but after I unplugged from wall as gimmiefuel noted all was right with my HD World. I have an S3 TiVo with 2 M cards in Seattle with Comcast...though still no guide data for the 4 new HD channels :(

Yeah NFL-HD looked great once I rebooted my box too, don't know what was wrong with it. Since you are getting 110 then I assume it must be something wrong on my end or my area, I guess I will have to call Comcast and see if they know how to fix it.

Good News! My Tivo now shows the schedule info for the new HD channls. It did so about 5 minutes after I forced an update at 2:30pm today. I hope everyone else goes home to find the same.

Good News! My Tivo now shows the schedule info for the new HD channls. It did so about 5 minutes after I forced an update at 2:30pm today. I hope everyone else goes home to find the same.

Still no guide data for me on the new channels. I had forced a connection at 2:15 and didn't get the data. Saw this post and forced a connection again (at 3:30) and again no data. Channels are in the list (and have been for several days), but still show "To Be Announced" boo boo sad :(

Good News! My Tivo now shows the schedule info for the new HD channls. It did so about 5 minutes after I forced an update at 2:30pm today. I hope everyone else goes home to find the same.

Still showing no data other then the channels here in Bellevue. :(

Good News! My Tivo now shows the schedule info for the new HD channls. It did so about 5 minutes after I forced an update at 2:30pm today. I hope everyone else goes home to find the same.

What zip code does your system use? I'm going to call TiVo and would like to be able to give them a zip that did get the update since mine didn't. Thanks!

What zip code does your system use? I'm going to call TiVo and would like to be able to give them a zip that did get the update since mine didn't. Thanks!


Bellevue - 98005.

Still no update for those channels in 98103 either.

Still nothing for 98004.

Called TiVo and they had me repeat guided setup. Didn't think this sounded right since I've never had to do that for new channels before, but what the heck I gave it a try. Still no program info. Called back and the next tech went thru all the channel info, etc and told me that when my TiVo connected it got the program info for the new channels, but that it would take an hour or two for the info to get indexed and displayed. Hopefully in a couple of hours I'll post that I have the info, but I'm not holding my breath.

The tech did say that their program guide info there at TiVo did have the guide info for the new channels, so hopefully it will show up for me soon. I'll let you know....

The channels show up for me know on my S3. There was a message from TiVo saying new channels were added. This is in 98033 - Kirkland.

Called TiVo and they had me repeat guided setup. Didn't think this sounded right since I've never had to do that for new channels before, but what the heck I gave it a try. Still no program info. Called back and the next tech went thru all the channel info, etc and told me that when my TiVo connected it got the program info for the new channels, but that it would take an hour or two for the info to get indexed and displayed. Hopefully in a couple of hours I'll post that I have the info, but I'm not holding my breath.

The tech did say that their program guide info there at TiVo did have the guide info for the new channels, so hopefully it will show up for me soon. I'll let you know....

21 hours later and still no guide data for me. Guess I've been bad this year and Santa TiVo doesn't like me...

Potentially dumb question here: If I get Comcast's Digital Classic, for example, and have the cable box on my main TV, would I get *anything* through a TV in another room that was just connected to the wall without a cable box? I realize I couldn't get the digital channels, but would I still get some of the basic/local channels at least?

Potentially dumb question here: If I get Comcast's Digital Classic, for example, and have the cable box on my main TV, would I get *anything* through a TV in another room that was just connected to the wall without a cable box? I realize I couldn't get the digital channels, but would I still get some of the basic/local channels at least?

You will get the 'analog' channels up thru 99 w/out a box (since digital classic includes the basic cable package). Channels above 99 require the box (or cable card) to view.

SDef -- Yes, you'll get all the analog channels, which are probably anything under 100. It's been a while since I checked them, but as far as I know Comcast hasn't converted anything there to just digital (unfortunately, for HD expansion).

You will get the 'analog' channels up thru 99 w/out a box (since digital classic includes the basic cable package). Channels above 99 require the box (or cable card) to view.

I have the Comcast basic extended cable, and in addition to the analog channels, I get losts of digital stations over 100 without a box or cable card...

21 hours later and still no guide data for me. Guess I've been bad this year and Santa TiVo doesn't like me...

Ditto. I (re)did guided setup, and still don't have any guide data for the new HD channels. No love for me either in Bellevue (98008).

I have the Comcast basic extended cable, and in addition to the analog channels, I get losts of digital stations over 100 without a box or cable card...

Lucky you :D My understanding and experience is you shouldn't be able to get anything over 99 w/out decoding (unless it's the QAM stuff?)

Lucky you :D My understanding and experience is you shouldn't be able to get anything over 99 w/out decoding (unless it's the QAM stuff?)

yes, it is the QAM stuff...but don't essentially all TVs built in the last 2-3 years have a QAM tuner?

Howdy!

Since this morning I've had no digital channels and extremely fritzy analog channels. Just wondering if others are affected by this in the North Bothell/Mill Creek area? I called Comcast and they don't have any reports of an outage. Is it just me?

Howdy!

Since this morning I've had no digital channels and extremely fritzy analog channels. Just wondering if others are affected by this in the North Bothell/Mill Creek area? I called Comcast and they don't have any reports of an outage. Is it just me?

I live close to mill creek and have had no problems...

Howdy!

Since this morning I've had no digital channels and extremely fritzy analog channels. Just wondering if others are affected by this in the North Bothell/Mill Creek area? I called Comcast and they don't have any reports of an outage. Is it just me?

No problems on 228th and B/E Highway.

What will Comcast do to my internet bill if I cancel my cable TV? I did that about 5-6 years ago to switch to DirecTV and Comcast tried to bump it by about $10-15 per month. Then I found "Earthlink powered by Comcast" and got the price back down to about $45 even though I didn't bundle cable TV. Switched back to Comcast when I got HD and the HD DirecTivo was $1000 that I couldn't afford. But an HD DVR from D* is much cheaper now, they have more HD channels, and the monthly price is significantly less than Comcast. I figure I save about $300 over two years even if I have to pay $199 for the D* HR-20.

No problems on 228th and B/E Highway.

Strange. All my digital channels are now back except for the four newly added HD channels (670-673). Two of them don't show up at all and two of them are super pixelated and choppy so as to be unwatchable. And it's just me? Ugh!

What will Comcast do to my internet bill if I cancel my cable TV? ...

Your internet bill should increase by $10.

So, I know these things can sometimes be unreliable, but a co-worker of mine and I were chatting yesterday about HD and he mentioned that he knows someone that works for Comcast Seattle and they told him that Comcast is going to be really agressive in the 1st Quarter of 2008 as far as adding HD channels. I'll try to find out more info.

...I'll try to find out more info.

Good luck with that.

I'm finally going to get the digital subscription with a set top box in a few weeks (called to cancel my expensive basic cable and got a deal). Do any A/V cables come with the STB?

So, I know these things can sometimes be unreliable, but a co-worker of mine and I were chatting yesterday about HD and he mentioned that he knows someone that works for Comcast Seattle and they told him that Comcast is going to be really agressive in the 1st Quarter of 2008 as far as adding HD channels. I'll try to find out more info.

I was reading in the Comcast HD thread that in some towns in rural Virginia, Comcast suddenly added 15 new HD channels last Friday without any advertisement or warning. If only we get so lucky next quarter...

Looking at the list of channels just added in Va, here is what we still don't have that Comcast carries: FSN-HD, CSN-HD, SCIFI-HD, DISC-HD, APL-HD, TLC-HD, TBS-HD, FOOD-HD, HGTV-HD, CNN-HD

If Comcast is truely going to be aggressive next quarter, then it seems that at the very least they could easily start by adding these 10.... but if it actually happens any time soon, I'll probably go into a state of shock.:p

I was reading in the Comcast HD thread that in some towns in rural Virginia, Comcast suddenly added 15 new HD channels last Friday without any advertisement or warning. If only we get so lucky next quarter...

Looking at the list of channels just added in Va, here is what we still don't have that Comcast carries: FSN-HD, CSN-HD, SCIFI-HD, DISC-HD, APL-HD, TLC-HD, TBS-HD, FOOD-HD, HGTV-HD, CNN-HD

If Comcast is truely going to be aggressive next quarter, then it seems that at the very least they could easily start by adding these 10.... but if it actually happens any time soon, I'll probably go into a state of shock.:p

I wish this happens with comcast seattle too this friday :) .

I'm finally going to get the digital subscription with a set top box in a few weeks (called to cancel my expensive basic cable and got a deal). Do any A/V cables come with the STB?

It will come with component cables. If you want HDMI, you'll need your own HDMI cable.

I wish this happens with comcast seattle too this friday :) .

Well it is the weekend before X-mas... ;)

Well it is the weekend before X-mas... ;)

Now THAT would be a Christmas miracle.

Now THAT would be a Christmas miracle.

That will be my christmas present....

That will be my christmas present....

Not mine -- I asked for Speed-HD.

Not mine -- I asked for Speed-HD.

Christmas Wish: FoodNetwork HD, Sci-FiHD and Discovery HD are added.
Sign Of The Apocalypse: HDNet is added.

That will be my christmas present....

FX-HD, FSN-HD, and SCIFI-HD would be great.

FX-HD, FSN-HD, and SCIFI-HD would be great.

Yep, I'd like these channels, too.

But what I'd really like is guide data for the 4 channels they just added...still no data for me in the 98109 area.

Aye, it is getting annoying. Fortunately ( :( ) there is little I watch on those channels and even less that is actual HD and not stretched SD, so looking up the guide data on my DCT-2000 and setting manual recordings on the TivoHD is working for the moment, but I would like to be able to update my season passes...

I'd really like is guide data for the 4 channels they just added...still no data for me in the 98109 area.

On tivocommunity.com, people are having luck getting schedule date for the new channels by programming their Tivos with a Zip Code they know has the guide data . . . and of course their exact channel lineup. My zip code is 98005, and I have been gettinng the schedule since last Friday. The Tivocommunity.com link is as follows.

http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5785230&posted=1#post5785230

On tivocommunity.com, people are having luck getting schedule date for the new channels by programming their Tivos with a Zip Code they know has the guide data . . . and of course their exact channel lineup. My zip code is 98005, and I have been gettinng the schedule since last Friday. The Tivocommunity.com link is as follows.

http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5785230&posted=1#post5785230

I have been thinking about doing that, but after my 3 phone calls to TiVo and redo of the guided setup on Saturday, I just haven't had time to get back to it.

zap2it doesn't show the channels either for the 98005 zip code, but since you are getting them, drew00001, I am tempted to re-do guided setup since we're still blank here at 98004...

I just got the guide data for the 4 new HD channels!!!! Zip 98109, finally.

I was about to repeat the guided setup with zip 98005, but thought I'd try and force a connection one last time to see if I got updated, and lo and behold there was the new info. Merry Christmas to me:D

Praise the Maker - my Tivo in 98004 now has the new channel guide data, though Season Passes seem to still only show the SD channel...

Praise the Maker - my Tivo in 98004 now has the new channel guide data, though Season Passes seem to still only show the SD channel...


Your season passes don't magically change to the HD channel. They stay with the channel to which they were originally subscribed. If that channel mapes to a new position, then the season passes will move--given that the channel Id stays the same. If you want season passes on the new HD channels, you must recreate them.

I'm buying a new house, and unless I see some new HD channels very soon on Comcast, I'm pretty sure I'll be getting DirecTV at my new place. At least they seem to be doing something. 4 new HD channels in a year doesn't really cut it for me, especially when I see the Comcast commercials with all the claims about superior HD. I want more. The 10 new ones would be a good start, but really I would be satisfied for a while with just FX HD and Science Channel HD.

Your season passes don't magically change to the HD channel. They stay with the channel to which they were originally subscribed.

I understand that. But when I created new season passes from the HD channels, the only episodes listed were the ones on the SD channel. Also, my existing SD Season Passes did not show any episodes from the HD channel, and they should. So the Season Pass doesn't seem to know that there are episodes on the HD channel (even though it shows the HD channel in the Season Pass title).

However, it now looks like the HD channel data has been indexed because my Season Passes are now showing the HD channel episodes as well as the SD channel episodes.

TiVo data for the new channels reached 98103 earlier today.

It will come with component cables. If you want HDMI, you'll need your own HDMI cable.

Thanks for the info. Will the box have any digital audio out (optical or spdif) ports?

My DCH has optical out.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this...I have Comcast limited basic cable (no box) and an HDTV with a QAM tuner connected to an Onkyo receiver (from the 894 HTIB). I just got the receiver and noticed that channels have wildly different volume levels. I have the receiver set to Dolby Pro Logic II. Is this normal, or is there something I can do about it. Just watching an episode of Friends and had to turn it way up, then switched to one of the HD channels and it was WAY loud.

Thanks!

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this...I have Comcast limited basic cable (no box) and an HDTV with a QAM tuner connected to an Onkyo receiver (from the 894 HTIB). I just got the receiver and noticed that channels have wildly different volume levels. I have the receiver set to Dolby Pro Logic II. Is this normal, or is there something I can do about it. Just watching an episode of Friends and had to turn it way up, then switched to one of the HD channels and it was WAY loud.

Thanks!

To quote Bruce Hornsby And The Range, That's Just "The Way It Is"... :rolleyes:
Or wait for the new proposed "Dolby Volume" technology.

Hi all. Sorry I am new to this. I was switched to Digital something plan a few months ago for an extra $1 per month from my basic analog service.

I am guessing it is one step below Digital Starter. So my questions are:

1. Would I be able to pick any HD up with a QAM cable box from Fry's on my current package?
2. Would I be able to pick any HD up with a TIVO HD box on my current package?
3. If all the HD channels are available on Digital Starter, then what is the $6.50 monthly HDTV add on package all about from Comcast?

4. Basically, I am just trying to get as much HD as possible without spending much money. What would be the best way to do this? My current TV is HD, but doesn't have a QAM.

Thanks for any help!

sounds like you do have digital starter (basic cable plus $1 for a box). digital starter lets you pick up a good bit of HD but you do need to exhange your $1 box for the $6.50 HD-box, with the HD tuner in it and HD outputs on the back. You'll get all the locals, ESPN, ESPN2, UHD, MHD, MOJO, TNT, A&E, HISTORY and USA all in HD this way plus some of the HD OnDemand. The $6.50 doesn't change your package, just gets you the upgraded hardware to view those channels in HD. Once you do this you do not need to buy a QAM tuner at Frys and it will save you the headaches that QAM people frequently have. Plus I think (aside from the locals) that most of the channels I mentioned are scrambled and probably wouldn't work with a QAM tuner anyway. Someone here will certainly correct me on that if I'm wrong.

Thanks! What about if I got an HD Tivo? Would I be able to get those HD without getting the Comcast HD box?

Thanks! What about if I got an HD Tivo? Would I be able to get those HD without getting the Comcast HD box?

With a cable card, yes.

With a cable card, yes.

Sorry for the idiot multiple questions, but I can get a cable card at the Digital Starter package, that will give me many HD channels in the TIVO HD box?

Sorry for the idiot multiple questions, but I can get a cable card at the Digital Starter package, that will give me many HD channels in the TIVO HD box?
When I called Comcast (1-800-COMCAST) I was told that I could get a cable card with Basic service only, so I would be surprised if they would not provide it for their Digital Starter package. The TiVoHD will not work well without it. Be sure to ask for an "M" card, which allows you to use one card instead of two, which avoids any charge for the second card.

I have not done this yet, but will be soon as the new TiVoHD just arrived here yesterday.

BTW, I was also told that I could pick up the card at their "store" and install it myself.

I've been using a Philips DVD recorders for several years and have been time translating the HBO channels. My old DVD recorder died and I tried a new Sony RDR-GXD455. To my surprise I can't record HBO. Do all the new DVD recorders do this? When did HBO add the "do not copy" signal? What else is protected?

Is there any other method of time translating HBO? I have an HD box and use it, but the small memory gets filled before I can watch the movies.

sastimac --
You could get a TiVo HD or Series 3 and expand the memory or augment it with an external eSata drive. You could use a VCR if you're willing to have the picture degraded even more than it is with the DVD recorder.

The Seahawks game on CBS not in HD, what's up with that? :mad:

Technical problem...

The Seahawks game on CBS not in HD, what's up with that? :mad:

Yeah. They were having feed break-up over both the SD and HD streams. Hopefully they'll get it sorted out soon.

The Seahawks game on CBS not in HD, what's up with that? :mad:

Unfortunately, the game's not scheduled to be in HD, it's one of the two CBS late games not in HD today.

I guess I'm relieved it's a Technical problem. The TiVo guide doesn't show HD for this game (it did have HD in the guide for the earlier game on CBS.) But just talked to a friend with the Comcast box and he said the Comcast guide says it should be in HD. So anyway, hope it's fixed soon. I can't stand watching football in SD...yes, I'm spoiled.


Edit, crap, just saw Baldone01's post...so really no HD....bummer....

Thanks for the info. Will the box have any digital audio out (optical or spdif) ports?
I think you can be confident of having a digital audio output. The DCT-3412s and 3416s (DVR boxes) certainly have them. But, you're on your own for a cable.

I've been using a Philips DVD recorders for several years and have been time translating the HBO channels. My old DVD recorder died and I tried a new Sony RDR-GXD455. To my surprise I can't record HBO. Do all the new DVD recorders do this? When did HBO add the "do not copy" signal? What else is protected?

Is there any other method of time translating HBO? I have an HD box and use it, but the small memory gets filled before I can watch the movies.

I have a Sony RDR-GX300, it was the last unit made by Sony (not Samsung, like yours) and it records without (DRM) limitations. You may want to try a Sima CT-2.

CBS Sports 2007-08 NFL Schedule
Program, Time (ET)
NFL on CBS Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 23, CBS Doubleheader (Flexible Schedule)
The NFL Today presented by Southwest Airlines, 12:00-1:00 p.m.(CBS HD)
Cleveland @ Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m. (CBS HD)
Kansas City @ Detroit, 1:00 p.m.
Houston @ Indianapolis, 1:00 p.m. (CBS HD)
Oakland @ Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.(CBS HD)
Miami @ New England, 4:15 p.m. (CBS HD)
Baltimore @ Seattle, 4:15 p.m.
N.Y. Jets @ Tennessee, 4:15 p.m. (CBS HD)

BUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comcast was wrong :(

CBS Sports 2007-08 NFL Schedule
Program, Time (ET)
NFL on CBS Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 23, CBS Doubleheader (Flexible Schedule)
The NFL Today presented by Southwest Airlines, 12:00-1:00 p.m.(CBS HD)
Cleveland @ Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m. (CBS HD)
Kansas City @ Detroit, 1:00 p.m.
Houston @ Indianapolis, 1:00 p.m. (CBS HD)
Oakland @ Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.(CBS HD)
Miami @ New England, 4:15 p.m. (CBS HD)
Baltimore @ Seattle, 4:15 p.m.
N.Y. Jets @ Tennessee, 4:15 p.m. (CBS HD)

BUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comcast was wrong :(

what a joke...

I can't believe that all the games aren't HD by now. What a crock.

Yeah, not being in HD sucks but at least we get to see the game at all.

So not only do we not get HD, but we get crappy audio that keeps cutting out. Thanks CBS.

I never thought I would wish the game was on FOX....

So - I know that the HD quality for Comcast depends on the location. So - is Comcast better than dish in the Bothell/Kenmore 98011 zip code? I currently have Dish Network and have just purchased my first HD TV (Panny TH42PX75). Any opinions? Shall I switch to Comcast?

So - I know that the HD quality for Comcast depends on the location. How do you "know" that?

I don't think it's true - Comcast HD PQ should be exactly the same everywhere within the same major metro area (eg, Puget Sound). The only major variable in Comcast's delivery system is *which* local network affiliate they happen to get their source feed from. For example, KIRO here in Seattle is known to sacrifice some HD bandwidth for a second multicast channel, which affects CBS-HD shows, notably sports. CBS affiliates in other parts of the country don't have this issue. But it's still exactly the same PQ we'd get over-the-air from KIRO anyway.

Well, I was about to finally upgrade to digital starter with HD because most of the channels from classic dropped a tier, but it seems that comcast is price gouging the 98027 area. In order to get all of these channel in HD, I have to pay $16 more a month. Such bull ****.

I just called comcast to take off sports tier since this saturday's game will be on King5.

I'm going to keep it for now. The picture quality is far better on NFL Network than it is on the networks.

I just called comcast to take off sports tier since this saturday's game will be on King5.
I called to do the same and they offered it free for 6 months.

I called to do the same and they offered it free for 6 months.

I was going to keep it after this weekend, wonder if I can get the same deal.

I'm going to keep it for now. The picture quality is far better on NFL Network than it is on the networks.

Exactly, none of that terrible compression.

It appears Kiro's all news channel (formerly space needle shot), 7-2 on my QAM tuner...has a natural size of 4x3, yet everyone appears fat head, narrow shoulders. I have the TV stretch it to 16 x 9, and it looks fine. Are my observations correct, or am I confused? Does Kiro really compress a 16 x 9 camera feed to 4 x3 ( to save bandwidth?) then leave it up to the viewer to stretch it back to normal?

It appears Kiro's all news channel (formerly space needle shot), 7-2 on my QAM tuner...has a natural size of 4x3, yet everyone appears fat head, narrow shoulders. I have the TV stretch it to 16 x 9, and it looks fine. Are my observations correct, or am I confused? Does Kiro really compress a 16 x 9 camera feed to 4 x3 ( to save bandwidth?) then leave it up to the viewer to stretch it back to normal?

I see the space needle at the moment. Perhaps they were testing something. Not likely that they would do anything on that channel which would require 16x9. They'd probably be surprised to hear that anyone noticed, though.

I see the space needle at the moment. Perhaps they were testing something. Not likely that they would do anything on that channel which would require 16x9. They'd probably be surprised to hear that anyone noticed, though.

about 2 pm , Penny Legate was anchoring a news cast...yup...back to 4x3 space needle now...however, if I let my TV stretch it to 16 x9 , pic looks good...possible it is same as that newcast I saw earlier...ie compressed to 4x3??

KIRO 7-2 rebroadcasts the KIRO widescreen news in anamorphic widescreen, when it's not showing one of it's city cams usually pointed at the space needle. Anamorphic widescreen is the same format that DVDs use. Sometimes, the DVD box will say "Enhanced for widescreen TVs" or "Anamorphic Widescreen". They take a 16:9 image and compress it horizontally to fit into a 4:3 image. If you watch it on 4:3 display, it will look squeezed (the easy way to tell this is that the circle around the 7 in the lower right is now an oval). If you watch it on a widescreen TV (without pillars), it should look like it's original correctly proportioned widescreen image.

Just looked at the TiVo guide data and Zap2it for Sunday's game, Seattle at Atlanta, and neither shows the game being in HD on Fox. So for the second week in a row we don't get to see the game in HD :mad:

KIRO 7-2 rebroadcasts the KIRO widescreen news in anamorphic widescreen....


Whats the advantage to Kiro of broadcasting in anamorphic widescreen? Less bandwidth?

Just looked at the TiVo guide data and Zap2it for Sunday's game, Seattle at Atlanta, and neither shows the game being in HD on Fox. So for the second week in a row we don't get to see the game in HD :mad:

Don't you know that the WORLD revolves around the New England game? :cool: But, come on, really...what's with games not being shown in HD in a time when we're a little over a year from the digital crossover?

Whats the advantage to Kiro of broadcasting in anamorphic widescreen?

Better picture quality (via higher resolution) for those of us with widescreen TVs.

EDIT: Removing invalid comment about how KIRO feeds program content on 7.2. 16:9 material is not squeezed into the 4:3 center cut space on this channel.

KIRO has announced that early next year it will start programming 7.2 with a "retro" network (re-runs of very old shows!) along with newscast replays. The towercam/airport camera shots will likely go away.

When they switched the news to 16:9, they ended up squeezing the 16:9 image into the same 4:3 space, making everyone look compressed. Why would you ever do that on purpose?
If you switch this image on your TV to stretch the 4:3 image to fill the entire 16:9 screen, it looks correct. Personally, I would prefer that they used the 16:9 SD format that KCTS uses for 9-1. It uses the same bandwidth but it correctly identifies itself as a widescreen image so your TV can handle it correctly. Not sure what's going to happen when they switch to RTN because all the RTN content will be 4:3.

KIRO 7-2 rebroadcasts the KIRO widescreen news in anamorphic widescreen, when it's not showing one of it's city cams usually pointed at the space needle. Anamorphic widescreen is the same format that DVDs use. Sometimes, the DVD box will say "Enhanced for widescreen TVs" or "Anamorphic Widescreen". They take a 16:9 image and compress it horizontally to fit into a 4:3 image. If you watch it on 4:3 display, it will look squeezed (the easy way to tell this is that the circle around the 7 in the lower right is now an oval). If you watch it on a widescreen TV (without pillars), it should look like it's original correctly proportioned widescreen image.

If you switch this image on your TV to stretch the 4:3 image to fill the entire 16:9 screen, it looks correct. Personally, I would prefer that they used the 16:9 SD format that KCTS uses for 9-1. It uses the same bandwidth but it correctly identifies itself as a widescreen image so your TV can handle it correctly. Not sure what's going to happen when they switch to RTN because all the RTN content will be 4:3.

I still think my first guess is correct, that 4x3 uses less bandwidth than sending us a true 16 x9 pic. However, I sent the station an email asking them the question...

There is one other possibility, SD Digital professional tape formats record 16x9 images anamorphically. If KIRO is using something like DigiBeta to record their airchecks and play them back (ie the noon news at 1:00), they probably just have the wrong setting on the output of the machine, or it is possible that they do not have the ability to send a true 16x9 signal on 7.2. I do NOT think it takes more bandwidth to send a digital SD signal in 16x9 vs. 4x3.

I do NOT think it takes more bandwidth to send a digital SD signal in 16x9 vs. 4x3.


On an LCD screen (and plasma too) a 16 x 9 picture is more pixels than 4 x 3 pic. Therefore, doesn't more pixels = more bandwidth????

On an LCD screen (and plasma too) a 16 x 9 picture is more pixels than 4 x 3 pic. Therefore, doesn't more pixels = more bandwidth????

It is the pixel count of the source program that matters. An HDTV will compensate for any standard incoming (source program) pixel count and convert it to the native resolution of the TV. Selecting narrow or widescreen simply stretches or compresses the same original source program content.

Don't you know that the WORLD revolves around the New England game? :cool: But, come on, really...what's with games not being shown in HD in a time when we're a little over a year from the digital crossover?

Well it was darned entertaining, that's for sure.

Except for Bumble Gumble I like the NFL channel broadcasts..."I said hand, I meant head" but had lol at Collingsworth's "Yeah, they are close, just a couple of letters different"

KIRO has announced that early next year it will start programming 7.2 with a "retro" network (re-runs of very old shows!) along with newscast replays. The towercam/airport camera shots will likely go away.

They should have been showing J.P. Patches shows on that sub channel ever since they started it :D

I saw a Comcast commercial recently that said they have 3 times as much HD content as DirectTV.

DirectTV: ~45 HD channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/moreInfoOffer.jsp?productId=prod920052 (All channels colored blue are HD)

Comcast Seattle: ~24 HD Channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.comcast.com/Customers/Clu/ChannelLineup.ashx (Search page for "*" and count occurances)

Comcast does NOT have more HD than directTV so how can they get away with those commercials??? They are lying!

Comcast does NOT have more HD than directTV so how can they get away with those commercials??? They are lying!

Comcast counts all of their OnDemand HD content, which DirecTV either does not have or does not have as much of. Since OnDemand is content, and that is what Comcast is comparing, they are technically correct.

DirecTV sued Comcast over Comcast's claims cable-based HD looked better then satellite-based and both recently settled with an agreement there was no difference, so perhaps DirecTV will sue on this issue, as well.

I saw a Comcast commercial recently that said they have 3 times as much HD content as DirectTV.

DirectTV: ~45 HD channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/moreInfoOffer.jsp?productId=prod920052 (All channels colored blue are HD)

Comcast Seattle: ~24 HD Channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.comcast.com/Customers/Clu/ChannelLineup.ashx (Search page for "*" and count occurances)

Comcast does NOT have more HD than directTV so how can they get away with those commercials??? They are lying!

It's a national TV spot by Comcast and they're using the channel lineups of the Philadelphia area which is the headquarters of Comcast.

Yes, it would be nice if the TV spots were specific to each city/region, but it is a Comcast TV spot and they can run it as a national ad if they choose to.

I saw a Comcast commercial recently that said they have 3 times as much HD content as DirectTV.

DirectTV: ~45 HD channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/moreInfoOffer.jsp?productId=prod920052 (All channels colored blue are HD)

Comcast Seattle: ~24 HD Channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.comcast.com/Customers/Clu/ChannelLineup.ashx (Search page for "*" and count occurances)

Comcast does NOT have more HD than directTV so how can they get away with those commercials??? They are lying!They were counting PROGRAMS, not CHANNELS. You can argue all day whether this is a real or bogus comparison - but at any given moment, you have more HD PROGRAMS to choose from on Comcast, because of OnDemand.

They were counting PROGRAMS, not CHANNELS. You can argue all day whether this is a real or bogus comparison - but at any given moment, you have more HD PROGRAMS to choose from on Comcast, because of OnDemand.

They should compare the number of different programs available over a week's period, since the OnDemand programs will still be the same old ones.

They should compare the number of different programs available over a week's period, since the OnDemand programs will still be the same old ones.

I saw somewhere that there is a push to have Comcast limit how they advertise how much HD content they have, because it is misleading to consumers. They should be required to say that they have x number of HD channels and x number of hours of HD on demand. Or they should convert 24 hours of on demand to 1 channel. Given that they advertise about 100 hours of HD on demand, then we could be generous and allow them to say they have the equivalent of 5 channels. That still puts them at 29 channels to DirectTV's 45. No matter how you cut it, Comcast does not even lead the way in HD content and I'm sure that they will loose any lawsuit brought against them on this.

I saw somewhere that there is a push to have Comcast limit how they advertise how much HD content they have, because it is misleading to consumers. They should be required to say that they have x number of HD channels and x number of hours of HD on demand. Or they should convert 24 hours of on demand to 1 channel. Given that they advertise about 100 hours of HD on demand, then we could be generous and allow them to say they have the equivalent of 5 channels. That still puts them at 29 channels to DirectTV's 45. No matter how you cut it, Comcast does not even lead the way in HD content and I'm sure that they will loose any lawsuit brought against them on this.

Kinda of silly on both sides. How about DirectTvs ads they will have 100 HD channels by the end of year? 55 channels to add by midnight tonight. And how about how they count east, central and west coast feeds as seperate channels? And how about how they don't really tell you that if you want local HD programming you must be able to get it OTA (which I can't). Oh, but the network feeds are listed as locals but they aren't local to Seattle so I don't see how they can say they are local. They both lie IMO.

Not sure where you heard that. The Seattle HD channels on DirecTV are KOMO, KING, KIRO, KCPQ, and KONG. I'm not sure exactly how many total HD channels they have now, but it's pretty much everything I watch.

Kinda of silly on both sides. How about DirectTvs ads they will have 100 HD channels by the end of year? 55 channels to add by midnight tonight. And how about how they count east, central and west coast feeds as seperate channels? And how about how they don't really tell you that if you want local HD programming you must be able to get it OTA (which I can't). Oh, but the network feeds are listed as locals but they aren't local to Seattle so I don't see how they can say they are local. They both lie IMO.

Comcast Seattle: ~24 HD Channels (including locals)
Source: http://www.comcast.com/Customers/Clu/ChannelLineup.ashx (Search page for "*" and count occurances)

Comcast does NOT have more HD than directTV so how can they get away with those commercials??? They are lying!

Well... when I go to the above link and type in my zip code it tells me we have 36 HD channels in my area for 98072, we have 2 espn-hd's, 2 espn2-Hd's, 2 UHD's, 2 MHD's etc. LOL, now I know how Comcast has more HD... but hey, even with that error it doesn't add up to more HD than D*

Now that it's a few hours away from 2008 and Comcast supposedly is going to add more HD this first Quarter, it's time for me to start sending my email requests in for more HD again soon... btw, I talked to sales guys from both CC and Video Only last week and they both said HDTV sales have been exceptional this holiday season. Don't know if they were telling the truth or not but hopefully more HDTV sales means more HDTV service being requested by Comcast which will hopefully help speed up the new HD addtions around here finally.

Not sure where you heard that. The Seattle HD channels on DirecTV are KOMO, KING, KIRO, KCPQ, and KONG. I'm not sure exactly how many total HD channels they have now, but it's pretty much everything I watch.


Oops, my bad. :o I think it used to be that way. There is, however still one local you can't get, it's something like channel 110 or 111 I believe and you don't get the local Fox affilate. I guess 5 outta 7 locals ain't bad. ;)

KCPQ is FOX. Not sure what 110 is.

Oops, my bad. :o I think it used to be that way. There is, however still one local you can't get, it's something like channel 110 or 111 I believe and you don't get the local Fox affilate. I guess 5 outta 7 locals ain't bad. ;)

You probably mean KSTW, which we don't get in HD.

Seattle Comcast carries all 8 local HD channels

104 KOMO ABC
105 KING NBC
106 KONG independent
107 KIRO CBS
108 KCTS PBS
110 KMYQ My Network TV
111 KSTW CW
113 KCPQ Fox

Happy New Year

Seattle Comcast carries all 8 local HD channels

104 KOMO ABC
105 KING NBC
106 KONG independent
107 KIRO CBS
108 KCTS PBS
110 KMYQ My Network TV
111 KSTW CW
113 KCPQ Fox

Happy New Year

Thanks Zyland. Was trying to do locals by memory and I failed miserably. :o

Really should have just left the locals comment off my original post. The point is really the same.

Any else one having trouble with KOMO HD and the KCTS digital channels? Their signals for me in Bellevue have been getting worse for the last few days and now KOMO and KCTS are not being picked up by my TV at all. I'm not using a Comcast HD box, just the TV's QAM tuner.

Did we loose HBO on demand HD content today? I had heard that HBO was not excited to offer HD content On Demand, because Comcast wasn't requiring hdmi or some other copy protection of the content. I guess they decided to pull out. Has anybody heard if this is the case?

Did we lose HBO on demand HD content today? I had heard that HBO was not excited to offer HD content On Demand, because Comcast wasn't requiring hdmi or some other copy protection of the content. I guess they decided to pull out. Has anybody heard if this is the case?

The link to HBO OnDemand HD has disappeared, but they never had much, anyway (only series). Why would OnDemand be a greater threat to them than the normal HD? How did you hear this?

The link to HBO OnDemand HD has disappeared, but they never had much, anyway (only series). Why would OnDemand be a greater threat to them than the normal HD? How did you hear this?

Here's the story back in May Link (http://www.tvpredictions.com/hbodemand051007.htm)

I've only had HBO for a few months and there was some pretty good HD movies on Demand. I never saw any HD shows there.

Here's the story back in May Link (http://www.tvpredictions.com/hbodemand051007.htm)

I've only had HBO for a few months and there was some pretty good HD movies on Demand. I never saw any HD shows there.

Interesting. It appears that HBO hasn't figured out that their non-OnDemand programming is output via component.

Interesting. It appears that HBO hasn't figured out that their non-OnDemand programming is output via component.

I think they just want to push the HDMI issue. They know if they kill HBO HD, it will hurt their own pocket books. By dropping the on demand content, they can put the pressure the big cable companies who want to trumpet how much HD content they have On Demand. I doubt I'll keep HBO past my free introductory period.

I was calling with a problem about VOD on one of my boxes, (works fine on others, think I may have too many splitters on the one that's failing) when I brought up the issue about HBO HD On Demand missing. The CSR verified it was also missing for him. Got a couple of days of free service for "my inconvenience". Said to check back tomorrow in that supposedly the HBO HD OnDemand folder missing is a known issue. We'll see.

So, if indeed HBO is pulling their HD OnDemand, I wonder if other premium services will follow?

Interestingly, HBO HD OnDemand is back. No series, but now two movies -- "Deck the Halls" and "Dreamgirls".

Interestingly, HBO HD OnDemand is back. No series, but now two movies -- "Deck the Halls" and "Dreamgirls".Not surprising. People love conspiracy theories about Hollywood, DRM, and Comcast - but the reality is that it was probably just some poor tech locally who accidentally deleted a folder on the server. :-)

Interestingly, HBO HD OnDemand is back. No series, but now two movies -- "Deck the Halls" and "Dreamgirls".

Kwel. Same for me. Guess the CSR was right. But 2 movies? :) And they both end on the 7th. Oh well, guess I'll enjoy HBO HD On Demand while it's there. :rolleyes:

Not surprising. People love conspiracy theories about Hollywood, DRM, and Comcast - but the reality is that it was probably just some poor tech locally who accidentally deleted a folder on the server. :-)

Ok, it was me. I admit it.

BTW: I've been fired. :(

Anyone feel like giving me a quick pro/con listing on Comast/Dish/DirecTV?

Thanks in advance for whomever is up to this challenge!:D

HBO On Demand had about5 movies all scheduled to vanish after 12/31.There just wasn't anything new to take its place this time for some reason. Deck the Halls and Dreamgirls were 2 of the movies that were there, so they haven't added anything new. Let the conspiracy theories commence!

Anyone feel like giving me a quick pro/con listing on Comast/Dish/DirecTV?

Thanks in advance for whomever is up to this challenge!:D

Comments would be more meaningful if you gave some idea of what your needs and preferences are.

Your question is somewhat like the pro's and con's of Chevy vs. Ford. Where does one start to answer the question?

about 2 pm , Penny Legate was anchoring a news cast...yup...back to 4x3 space needle now...however, if I let my TV stretch it to 16 x9 , pic looks good...possible it is same as that newcast I saw earlier...ie compressed to 4x3??


I have been in contact with KIRO Engineering. The signal is true widescreen (at least with programming, uncertain about space needle shot), and shows up as widescreen OTA. It is also supposed to be widescreen on Comcast. KIRO thinks Comcast may be accidently stripping off the "identifiers" and will contact them. They are concerned and want to fix this, as they intend to dramatically increase programming on 7-2 soon.

Anyone feel like giving me a quick pro/con listing on Comast/Dish/DirecTV?

Thanks in advance for whomever is up to this challenge!:D
I'm sure someone can give you a complete rundown but my 2 cents is that Comcast has a lower up-front cost since you don't have to buy HD DVR's (if that is the route you're going). I considered D* but I'd need 2 HD DVR's to replace existing Comcast boxes and Tivos. That gets to be rather steep at D* or E*. If cost is no object than either sat outfit has more HD than Comcast and I don't consider onDemand when comparing services because there is rarely anything there I want to watch. I consider an HD DVR a necessity these days because my schedule and HD schedules don't always mesh and often there are 2 HD programs on at the same time that I'd watch.

Comments would be more meaningful if you gave some idea of what your needs and preferences are.

Your question is somewhat like the pro's and con's of Chevy vs. Ford. Where does one start to answer the question?

Dave - c'mon, Chevy has no cons and Ford has no pros. Right?! :D

Any else one having trouble with KOMO HD and the KCTS digital channels? Their signals for me in Bellevue have been getting worse for the last few days and now KOMO and KCTS are not being picked up by my TV at all. I'm not using a Comcast HD box, just the TV's QAM tuner.

On the qam set upstairs, haven;t seen komo, kstw, kcpq for a couple months in hd....I've been doing rescans for the past few weeks and now have lost kcts too....signals on the stations they are supposed to be on are below 35$%.....
King, Kiro, kong and kmyq are fine.....

Anyone feel like giving me a quick pro/con listing on Comast/Dish/DirecTV?

Thanks in advance for whomever is up to this challenge!:D

Just one person's opinion....

I just switched from Comcast to DirecTV. I did the math and even with the $199 for the HD DVR, I was going to come out ahead in terms of cost after less than a year. It is that much cheaper.

Other advantages of DirecTV:
1. More HD channels (I never really used OnDemand and DirecTV is coming out with download ondemand anyway)
2. DVR is WAY better than the Comcast DVR (twice the capacity, better trick play, more responsive interface)

Disadvantage of DirecTV:

IMHO the picture quality of the local HD channels and ESPN is worse than it was with Comcast. Not as sharp. The latest DirecTV DVR (HR21-700) no longer has the ability to record OTA, though DirecTV is supposedly coming out with a solution.

Anyone feel like giving me a quick pro/con listing on Comast/Dish/DirecTV?

Thanks in advance for whomever is up to this challenge!:D

A lot depends on where you are starting from, OTA, cable or DirecTV or Dish TV.

In my case, I have DirecTV service and 2 HD DirecTiVo's, 1 SD DirecTiVo and one non-TiVo SD DVR. For me to get equivalent capabilities on the Coomcast side, and without giving up the TiVo's my wife wants (she tried the R-15 non-TiVo box for a week and gave up when it failed to record some of her programs that recorded fine on the TiVo), I would have to buy at least 2 TiVo HD or Series 3 boxes. To stay with DirecTV and get all of their new HD channels, I have to get their non-TiVo HD DVR at some unknown cost (close to free if I negotiate well). I do have good OTA reception, which compensates for DirecTV not offering some key local HD channels (like channels 9, 11 and 22) which are available on cable.

What a mess! For now I stay status quo until some trigger drives change. Since I barely have time to watch the HD programs I already have recording on my TiVo, I am not too excited yet about the new HD channels. But that will likely change some time in the future.

Everyone has a different scenario that causes pro's and con's to vary.

Dave - c'mon, Chevy has no cons and Ford has no pros. Right?! :D

I guess I am not qualified to answer that because I drive a Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel truck and my wife drives a Toyota.

I had a Ford truck (gasoline - 351) before but I could not afFord the high cost of repairs and the poor fuel economy. Plus the Ford 1/2 ton was not adequate for pulling my 5th wheel travel trailer (acquired after I got the Dodge).

Now to get back on topic, the 5th wheel trailer now has a 32" HDTV (8VSB/QAM). After watching HDTV at home, I could hardly stand to watch the original analog TV in the trailer.

Comments would be more meaningful if you gave some idea of what your needs and preferences are.

Your question is somewhat like the pro's and con's of Chevy vs. Ford. Where does one start to answer the question?

Fair enough - btw - I prefer a Ford over Chevy any day!:D

So - I just bought a 42" Panasonic Plasma and a surround sound receiver, etc. I've been with Dish Network for years and have always been happy with the programming, reception, quality, and most of all, price.

I have a total of 4 tvs - only one of which is HD which is the new Panasonic. I will then only need to upgrade one receiver and want a DVR. I am mostly interested in sports channels, movie channels (HBO, etc.) and the local channels. I've got KIRO, KING, KIRO, etc. (not FOX) coming in OTA in HD "ok" right now but I don't feel it's a good solution unless I try a better antenna. I'll need FOX for future football and other sports, etc.

I've never had OnDemand so wouldn't really know what I'm missing. I like superior quality picture if there is a difference. Price would be a consideration as well but since I've been with Dish for so long - wondering if they'll give me a deal if I threaten to change?

Is that enough to get someone started?

any chance we will see the new motorola mpeg4 boxes in Seattle sometime soon?

Ok, it was me. I admit it.
BTW: I've been fired. :(
For Real???

I've got the Comcast Motorola 3412, and I'd like to switch it out to the 3416.

I would like to be able to keep/save a few of the programs I have recorded on the 3412, prior to this switch. Is it possible to transfer these the harddrive on either my HP laptop (Windows Vista home premium) or my PS3?

If so how?

Thank you?

I've got the Comcast Motorola 3412, and I'd like to switch it out to the 3416.

I would like to be able to keep/save a few of the programs I have recorded on the 3412, prior to this switch. Is it possible to transfer these the harddrive on either my HP laptop (Windows Vista home premium) or my PS3?

If so how?

Thank you?


Check out this link: http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/

I had to do this using the old 6416 box. It worked for me and I think it will work with the newer boxes as well.

For Real???

Sorry, just my poor attempt at humor. My bad. I do not nor have I ever worked for Comcast.

I've got the Comcast Motorola 3412, and I'd like to switch it out to the 3416.

I would like to be able to keep/save a few of the programs I have recorded on the 3412, prior to this switch. Is it possible to transfer these the harddrive on either my HP laptop (Windows Vista home premium) or my PS3?

If so how?

Thank you?

About the only thing you can do is output via the Composite output and capture onto an analog capture card. Since you're running Windows Vista, it is very doubtful that the old drivers for capturing to Windows XP would work. In addition, if I remember right, it never worked with copy protection so even if you got it to work, it would not allow you to get any premium service stuff.

BTW: If you do upgrade, make sure to get the DCH model. It's newer and IMO has better PQ.

BTW: If you do upgrade, make sure to get the DCH model. It's newer and IMO has better PQ.

Not sure if this is just an issue with the "ComcastTivo" software or the hardware itself, but folks with it on DCH boxes can only get stereo PCM on the audio output. To get Dolby Digital 5.1, you seem to have to have a DCT box per some folks.

...

Now to get back on topic, the 5th wheel trailer now has a 32" HDTV (8VSB/QAM). After watching HDTV at home, I could hardly stand to watch the original analog TV in the trailer.
I know what you mean - we are all soooooo spoiled now. Wasn't that 32" a Walmart cheapie? How do you like it so far? PM me also on trailer brands - I'm considering one myself and there appear to be dozens. Is there any difference in quality? TIA

I know what you mean - we are all soooooo spoiled now. Wasn't that 32" a Walmart cheapie? How do you like it so far? PM me also on trailer brands - I'm considering one myself and there appear to be dozens. Is there any difference in quality? TIA

I ended up with a Sears cheapie: a 32" Sylvania (Funai) for $600. It has a much better remote than most cheapies I looked at and it includes digital audio out that the WalMart cheapies lacked. I liked it so much that I advised my sister-in-law to get one. She loves hers and uses it a lot more than I am able to in the trailer. I would have gone with Vizio but it would not quite fit into the space I had available in the cabinet in the trailer, and the WalMart version lacked a digital audio output. Since I happened to be in Sequim at the time of purchase, my choices of nearby stores was limited.

The fifth wheel I bought in 2007 is a 2005 Jayco Designer 31-foot rear living room. Yes, there are many variations in quality of construction and fit and finish out there.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions about any particular brand or unit that interests you. I have been RVing with folks with fifth wheels for many years and we finally upgraded to one last year. I did a lot of research and we looked at many trailers before finding one that fit our needs and could be expected to last well into our retirement years. I flunked retierment once already, so I am hoping to do better next time around, after I pay for most of my toys.

Not sure if this is just an issue with the "ComcastTivo" software or the hardware itself, but folks with it on DCH boxes can only get stereo PCM on the audio output. To get Dolby Digital 5.1, you seem to have to have a DCT box per some folks.
If true, must be the software. We're not running ComcastTivo software here in Lakewood (yet). I know I get 5.1 on my DCH with the IGuide software.

If true, must be the software. We're not running ComcastTivo software here in Lakewood (yet). I know I get 5.1 on my DCH with the IGuide software.


I didn't think anyone had ComcastTivo software but some parts of New Hampshire.

any chance we will see the new motorola mpeg4 boxes in Seattle sometime soon?

But the hdtv signal is still mpeg2, wonder what the difference is?

But the hdtv signal is still mpeg2, wonder what the difference is?
I am not entirely sure, but it sounds like some stations will start compressing at mpg4. D* is advertising mpeg4 and motorola has released info about mpeg4 boxes, could comcast jump onboard?

I am not entirely sure, but it sounds like some stations will start compressing at mpg4. D* is advertising mpeg4 and motorola has released info about mpeg4 boxes, could comcast jump onboard? Comcast has such a huge installed MPEG2 infrastructure - from set-top boxes to head-end servers to commercial-insertion technology - that it'll be a long time before they'd switch to MPEG4. I'd expect them to start using it gradually with things like OnDemand.

Anybody else having signal strength issues with Fox the last few weeks? I figured it was across the board with all channels but I just realized that my S3 shows between 55 and 65 for Fox and 75 - 90 for everything else. I'm in West Seattle. I'm watching the NFL now with dropouts every 20 - 30 seconds. Can you say ANNOYING!!!

Anybody else having signal strength issues with Fox the last few weeks? I figured it was across the board with all channels but I just realized that my S3 shows between 55 and 65 for Fox and 75 - 90 for everything else. I'm in West Seattle. I'm watching the NFL now with dropouts every 20 - 30 seconds. Can you say ANNOYING!!!

Fox Channel 113 strength is 90-95 for me (Seattle Lk Union area). I had no problems during the Giants Bucs game. Wasn't watching the other tuner, but it shows 90-95 for it, too, tuned to ABC channel 104. Just switched to 107 for the second game and it's at 90-95, also.

Ok, I've been lurking on the AVS forum for the last three years. And quietly working on my HTPC and projection setup. But this post is for the wife's new Tivo HD (series 3 orange box). Set up Wednesday night was a piece of cake. Channel line up took a long time to pull in off comcast basic cable. We couldn't get any of the "antenna" channels. A quick call to Tivo go us a new firmware update (only took 55 minutes to download). Friday night I went through all the channel to look for content. And marked any content as "favorite". The box has updated every day about 3am for the last 4 nights. But.....the problem is it isn't picking up all the channel line up or programming information. For instance everything above 28 is listed as ???? and no program information. And all the -1 locals are listed as ???? without program info. I tried Tivo customer service, but they are closed until tomorrow at 7am PST. Are we the only ones with this kind of issue? Or is it just Comcastic?

Ok, I've been lurking on the AVS forum for the last three years. And quietly working on my HTPC and projection setup. But this post is for the wife's new Tivo HD (series 3 orange box). Set up Wednesday night was a piece of cake. Channel line up took a long time to pull in off comcast basic cable. We couldn't get any of the "antenna" channels. A quick call to Tivo go us a new firmware update (only took 55 minutes to download). Friday night I went through all the channel to look for content. And marked any content as "favorite". The box has updated every day about 3am for the last 4 nights. But.....the problem is it isn't picking up all the channel line up or programming information. For instance everything above 28 is listed as ???? and no program information. And all the -1 locals are listed as ???? without program info. I tried Tivo customer service, but they are closed until tomorrow at 7am PST. Are we the only ones with this kind of issue? Or is it just Comcastic?

I have a tivo HD with a comcast M-card, and having none of these problems.
Maybe you could try to repeat the guided setup?

Rader023,
We don't subscribe to Comcast HD service, just basic cable, so we don't have an M-card. And, yes I am aware we're only going to pick up a few of the HD channels.

I've been through the guided setup 3x now. Thats why I chose to post here. I'm gonna run through the problem again tonight with the good folks at Tivo.

Rader023,
We don't subscribe to Comcast HD service, just basic cable, so we don't have an M-card. And, yes I am aware we're only going to pick up a few of the HD channels.

I've been through the guided setup 3x now. Thats why I chose to post here. I'm gonna run through the problem again tonight with the good folks at Tivo.

The schedule information for the Qam channels, including local HD, will not download without a cablecard. This was a huge gripe with the Tivo S3 & HD units when they were released. I expect you can find more detailed info on your problem at tivocommunity.com in the HD/S3 forum.

Rader023,
We don't subscribe to Comcast HD service, just basic cable, so we don't have an M-card. And, yes I am aware we're only going to pick up a few of the HD channels.

I've been through the guided setup 3x now. Thats why I chose to post here. I'm gonna run through the problem again tonight with the good folks at Tivo.

With Comcast, you should have the option of getting a cable card, even if you only have limited basic service. We added an M card to my sister-in-law's TV with her condo-furnished basic Comcast service and all works well. They are charging her $1.79 per month for the M card.

You have to know what you are asking for with Comcast. The CSRs mostly seem to be trained to coerce you into a digital package, which you are NOT required to have for a cable card.

Latest word from Comcast (not published, but from a good source) is that there will be a large HD expansion locally in 2008. 4 to 6 new HD channels in Q1 2008 but a goal of adding 60-something, total, next year.

Any news on what the new HD channels will be for Q1, and will today's Comcast announcement mean that those 60-something channels will all be On-Demand content?

Any news on what the new HD channels will be for Q1, and will today's Comcast announcement mean that those 60-something channels will all be On-Demand content?

Yeah, I'd also like to know what channels (please FoodNetwork HD) and when. By their definition, Q1 could mean now to June.

Hi, I just found this forum today while searching for opinions on C* vs D*. There is a lot of great info on here about making that decision. I've had both C* and D* at the same time for years now. I'm finally upgrading to HD.

Hence, "The Decision", can't afford both anymore.

I have 2 Tivo D10-DVR's and 1 of Dtv's DVR's all on D*. C* feeds the other 4 sets in the house directly. Yesterday I got a C* Motorola DVR hooked up to my only (so far) HDTV (Toshiba Regza 26"). From what I can tell on such a small set, the picture is excellent here in Issaquah (even only at 1080i). I'm all prewired throught the house for both systems. Though C* has the advantage of being a single cable per outlet. I'm really not worried too much about who has the MOST HD channels yet. Won't they both have them all by the end of the year?

What I want to end up with is 3 DVR's and 4 plain HD boxes.

What I wanted to ask is, is 1080p available from both companies? Can I buy Tivo DVR's for either company instead of the supplied DVR's (they suck), and Hummingbird, what meter are you using to check signal strength and where can I buy one?

Thanks to all of you videophiles for helping out an old guy make up his mind. Mike

How much are others paying for DVR service with comcast? I have two 3416's and a TIVO S3. I called comcast yesterday after I looked up my bill and saw $13.95 for 1st DVR and $19.95 for second DVR. OH my gosh. I also have directv and just ordered a DVRHD from them and they charge $5.99 for DVR service whether you have 1 DVR or 10 DVR's, still only $5.99....

Here is a snippet of message to wife. I should send this to comcast...

I am going to migrate all our service to directv as soon as a better deal on dvr’s comes out. Directv charges $5.99 per month for DVR service no matter how many you use. Comcast charges $14 for 1st DVR, and $20 for second DvR so that is outrageous. Someday we will get a dvr for the kids room and upstairs and cancel Comcast and really save…

How much are others paying for DVR service with comcast? I have two 3416's and a TIVO S3. I called comcast yesterday after I looked up my bill and saw $13.95 for 1st DVR and $19.95 for second DVR. OH my gosh. I also have directv and just ordered a DVRHD from them and they charge $5.99 for DVR service whether you have 1 DVR or 10 DVR's, still only $5.99....

Here is a snippet of message to wife. I should send this to comcast...

I am going to migrate all our service to directv as soon as a better deal on dvr’s comes out. Directv charges $5.99 per month for DVR service no matter how many you use. Comcast charges $14 for 1st DVR, and $20 for second DvR so that is outrageous. Someday we will get a dvr for the kids room and upstairs and cancel Comcast and really save…Don't you also have to pay $199 per box up front to "lease" their HD-DVR equipment? That's what their web site says...

Keithaxis, I'm assumming the $13.95 and $19.95 are for their (leased) boxes. Does your invoice show what they charge for the Tivo S3 DVR service?
Thanks, Mike

Keithaxis, I'm assumming the $13.95 and $19.95 are for their (leased) boxes. Does your invoice show what they charge for the Tivo S3 DVR service?
Thanks, Mike

Comcast does not charge for the S3. Instead, Comcast charges for cablecards. I think the rate is $1.75.

that is the weird part. I do not see anywhere on bill for the cable card fees. I have two in teh tivo s3.

bill shows:
64.99 comcast digital premier
52.25 basic cable
13.95 dvr service
19.05 dvr additional outlet
5.10 digital additional (this is the box in my shed, I better return it)


there are no cable card fees that I see....

Keith

there are no cable card fees that I see...

Not all Comcast offices in Western Washington appear to charge the fees. I am paying $1.75 for my single M-Card in my TivoHD here in Bellevue, but others have noted they are not being charged.

It may also be that Comcast does not charge for CCs used in TVs, vs. one used in Tivo. I was having issues not receiving a handful of channels on my Tivo which required a truck roll. It appears my account had not had the "Tivo" flag activated, which may be how Comcast determines whether or not to charge.

I believe if you do not have a Comcast-provided tuner box/DVR, but have a digital cable package, you get one CC free. I do have one tuner box, so that is likely why I am charged for the CC.

The $1.75 used to be on my bill. Now all see is as follows:

Comcast Digital 15.99
Preferred Includes: Digital Classic,
Digital Preferred and 1 Standard Digital
Set-Top Receiver and Remote, if
applicable.
Service Discount -4.00
Basic Cable Includes 52.25
(Limited Cable $13.15 and Expanded
Cable $39.10)

What I wanted to ask is, is 1080p available from both companies?

Neither broadcasts in 1080p (some stations braodast 1080i, some 720p)- nor will they in the near future-- too much bandwidth required. Although I did read that Comcast CEO Brian Roberts at CES promised a broad rollout of Internet services at rates up to 100 Mbps by the end of the year with more high-definition content. This is the first step to future 1080p broadcasts

The $1.75 used to be on my bill. Now all see is as follows:

Comcast Digital 15.99
Preferred Includes: Digital Classic,
Digital Preferred and 1 Standard Digital
Set-Top Receiver and Remote, if
applicable.
Service Discount -4.00
Basic Cable Includes 52.25
(Limited Cable $13.15 and Expanded
Cable $39.10)

Wow, I didn't realize that they charged that way. I had the Expanded Cable for years @ 52.25. When I ordered my digital service last week on "Chat" he lowered it to 33.00 for Digital Starter and 13.95 for the HD Box. I told him I was comparing to Dtv, that's probably why.

Does anybody know what they charge for Prefered Plus or Premier Package. I tried last night to get on "Chat" to find out but there were 30 people in front of me so I gave up.

Just FYI, I did find out that Tivo S3's don't work with Dtv, just cable. I'm thinking that if you buy Tivo boxes that the payback is less than 2 years. Now if they only had them in stock..... Must have been the 200.00 rebate.

Thanks again everybody for the help, Mike

Wow, I didn't realize that they charged that way. I had the Expanded Cable for years @ 52.25. When I ordered my digital service last week on "Chat" he lowered it to 33.00 for Digital Starter and 13.95 for the HD Box. I told him I was comparing to Dtv, that's probably why.

Does anybody know what they charge for Prefered Plus or Premier Package. I tried last night to get on "Chat" to find out but there were 30 people in front of me so I gave up.

Just FYI, I did find out that Tivo S3's don't work with Dtv, just cable. I'm thinking that if you buy Tivo boxes that the payback is less than 2 years. Now if they only had them in stock..... Must have been the 200.00 rebate.

Thanks again everybody for the help, Mike

Have you tried ordering from Tivo.com? Hard to believe you can't get one there.

Tivo was sold out. They only had refurb's. Seems like that's the I going to go though, I'll just wait for them to restock. Thanks, Mike

I got a new message on my Tivo just now. It says that Chanel 18 (KWDK) was deleted and replaced by Channel 18 (KWDKDT). I am assuming this means that Comcast deleted the analog channel . . . and hoping the message that new HD channels were added is right around the corner.

On a separate note, I have no idea what channel 18 or KWDK is. I deleted it from my lineup long ago. :)

I got a new message on my Tivo just now. It says that Chanel 18 (KWDK) was deleted and replaced by Channel 18 (KWDKDT). I am assuming this means that Comcast deleted the analog channel . . . and hoping the message that new HD channels were added is right around the corner.

That's just Tivo & Tribune playing catch-up: KWDK turned in its analog license (56) a year or so ago and has been DT-only (42) ever since. KWDK has since leased KUSE-LP (58) from Equity and provided an analog signal therefrom.

That's just Tivo & Tribune playing catch-up: KWDK turned in its analog license (56) a year or so ago and has been DT-only (42) ever since. KWDK has since leased KUSE-LP (58) from Equity and provided an analog signal therefrom.

Too bad

Neither broadcasts in 1080p (some stations braodast 1080i, some 720p)- nor will they in the near future-- too much bandwidth required. Although I did read that Comcast CEO Brian Roberts at CES promised a broad rollout of Internet services at rates up to 100 Mbps by the end of the year with more high-definition content. This is the first step to future 1080p broadcasts
Comcast is teaming with Panasonic on a portable DVR. They also showed an updated DVR that will use a DOCSIS cable modem for more 2-way content. The box seemed a lot small than the current DVR's. Couldn't really get hands on since it was in a glass case.

One can only hope that come Feb 2009, the "magic switch" gets flipped & we can start seeing faster internet speeds & more Hi-def content.

DOWN WITH ANALOG!!!!!

Last year a large number of college basketball games were shown on channel 664. This year a ton of them have been listed in the guide but I haven't seen one yet. The only listed BB games that are actually shown are the NBA games.

This is very frustrating, as I continue to get recordings that I can't even identify when setting a recording that lists as a game in the guide. Not that this is relevant to my question, but I am also much more into college BB than the NBA - especially the Pac-10 games such as the Wash St at USC game "scheduled" for tonight at 8.

Will any of these games ever actually be shown as listed? If not, can't Comcast at least list what's actually going to be showing in the guide????

Last year a large number of college basketball games were shown on channel 664. This year a ton of them have been listed in the guide but I haven't seen one yet. The only listed BB games that are actually shown are the NBA games.

This is very frustrating, as I continue to get recordings that I can't even identify when setting a recording that lists as a game in the guide. Not that this is relevant to my question, but I am also much more into college BB than the NBA - especially the Pac-10 games such as the Wash St at USC game "scheduled" for tonight at 8.

Will any of these games ever actually be shown as listed? If not, can't Comcast at least list what's actually going to be showing in the guide????

I guess you are referring to the Comcast Motorola DVR guide? Because its not showing on the comcast site, or my Tivo guide. strange............

I've been told that a big release of new HD channels will be rolled out March 4th. The Comcast guy I know couldn't remember hardly any, but he did say the Sci-Fi channel is one of them.

That would be nice to get even more HD channels. Is there a reason why we have so few?

That would be nice to get even more HD channels. Is there a reason why we have so few?

Lack of competition. :p

More is good. I'd like to see the Science Channel HD and Discovery HD, as well, since I watch a good deal of content on both channels. I just hope most of that content is filmed in HD, since I am not a fan of the "stretched SD" that makes up much of the History Channel HD. I understand the old stuff they show was not meant for HD, but stuff shot in the past year (when they had to know they were launching an HD channel)?

I need SpeedHD. I'm willing to call on NASCAR fans for support if it means getting the 18 Formula One events in HD (or even just 16x9).

Not all Comcast offices in Western Washington appear to charge the fees. I am paying $1.75 for my single M-Card in my TivoHD here in Bellevue, but others have noted they are not being charged.

It may also be that Comcast does not charge for CCs used in TVs, vs. one used in Tivo. I was having issues not receiving a handful of channels on my Tivo which required a truck roll. It appears my account had not had the "Tivo" flag activated, which may be how Comcast determines whether or not to charge.

I believe if you do not have a Comcast-provided tuner box/DVR, but have a digital cable package, you get one CC free. I do have one tuner box, so that is likely why I am charged for the CC.

Comcast should not be charging you a fee for a single cable card. One cable card is free but a second cable card will incur the $1.75 fee. Ask for your money back. :)

I need SpeedHD. I'm willing to call on NASCAR fans for support if it means getting the 18 Formula One events in HD (or even just 16x9).

What's the best way to go about requesting for SpeedHD? I've tried emailing Comcast before about HD channels and requests but get just generated responses. I've emailed our local reps before, but not sure if it does any good. They've only responded to me one time telling me what they were going to add, and I'm not sure if my requests helped influence them or not.

I was going to email the reps again soon to request for more HD for this Quarter but haven't got around to it yet. Someone said on here that they are going to add 4-6 more HD's this quarter, if that is true then I'll be sure to request we get SpeedHD for March hopefully. Does Comcast have a deal to carry SpeedHD yet?

Lack of competition. :p

More is good. I'd like to see the Science Channel HD and Discovery HD, as well, since I watch a good deal of content on both channels. I just hope most of that content is filmed in HD, since I am not a fan of the "stretched SD" that makes up much of the History Channel HD. I understand the old stuff they show was not meant for HD, but stuff shot in the past year (when they had to know they were launching an HD channel)?

I've read that Discovery Networks don't stretch their 4x3 content on HD feeds, they zoom in to fill the screen. Proper aspect ratio, just not all the picture.

I've been told that a big release of new HD channels will be rolled out March 4th. The Comcast guy I know couldn't remember hardly any, but he did say the Sci-Fi channel is one of them.

Cool, I didn't see your post earlier. I hope this is true!

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Does Comcast have a deal to carry SpeedHD yet?

I've been poking around places such as the SpeedTV forum and have yet to see mention of any Comcast deal.

I've been poking around places such as the SpeedTV forum and have yet to see mention of any Comcast deal.

What i wouldnt give for that channel. Wonder if the german touring stuff is in HD too?

Question I have is how many of the new HD channels allegedly slated for March 4th will be unencrypted - ie not require an HD package...I can view all the HD channels unveiled in early Dec (in the 660-675 range) just fine with my basic analog cable package at $42.99 a month...

...I can view all the HD channels unveiled in early Dec (in the 660-675 range) just fine with my basic analog cable package at $42.99 a month...

Without a cable box or cablecard(s)?

Is anyone else getting stuttering on some of the shots from FOX's HD broadcast of the Seahawks/Packers game? It fluctuates but is mostly pretty bad.

Question I have is how many of the new HD channels allegedly slated for March 4th will be unencrypted - ie not require an HD package...I can view all the HD channels unveiled in early Dec (in the 660-675 range) just fine with my basic analog cable package at $42.99 a month...


With basic cable, you should feel lucky, as you shouldn't even get the ones from Dec.

With basic cable, you should feel lucky, as you shouldn't even get the ones from Dec.

I do have the free cable card with the basic cable...on my other TV , with QAM tuner but no cable card, I cannot locate those new December channels...

Here's what were getting in March.

Animal Planet
Discovery Channel (Mirrors the actual channel, we will continue to have Discovery HD Theather)
TLC
Home & Garden
Sci Fi

I would like to get CNN-HD before the conventions and election this year.

Here's what were getting in March.

Animal Planet
Discovery Channel (Mirrors the actual channel, we will continue to have Discovery HD Theather)
TLC
Home & Garden
Sci Fi

I would like to get CNN-HD before the conventions and election this year.

I'd love CNN-HD too...does it even exist?

Is your info from a reliable source, and are you able to say what the source was?

Sweet! I can't wait until those channels are added. I'll have to update the HD space on my TiVo3 to get all my shows in HD now. :)

I'd love CNN-HD too...does it even exist?

Is your info from a reliable source, and are you able to say what the source was?

CNN-HD does exist.

My source is the Area Director of Opereations.

Here's what were getting in March.

Animal Planet
Discovery Channel (Mirrors the actual channel, we will continue to have Discovery HD Theather)
TLC
Home & Garden
Sci Fi

I would like to get CNN-HD before the conventions and election this year.

Discovery and Sci-Fi are sweet. If we're also getting Animal Planet and TLC, here is hoping Discovery Science HD is soon.


I'd love CNN-HD too...does it even exist?

Wolf Blitzer said it did during their coverage of the New Hampshire primary, so... :D

Discovery and Sci-Fi are sweet. If we're also getting Animal Planet and TLC, here is hoping Discovery Science HD is soon.




Wolf Blitzer said it did during their coverage of the New Hampshire primary, so... :D

Any idea if there will be an additional charge for these channels? with my analog cable, and free cablecard, I currently get about 15 HD channels included...

Any idea if there will be an additional charge for these channels? with my analog cable, and free cablecard, I currently get about 15 HD channels included...

Since all reflect existing SD channels, I am guessing that if you have a package that gets the SD channel, you will get the HD one. That is how it seems to have worked for THC-HD, NGC-HD, and USA-HD,

Since all reflect existing SD channels, I am guessing that if you have a package that gets the SD channel, you will get the HD one. That is how it seems to have worked for THC-HD, NGC-HD, and USA-HD,

Though I can get those new HD 660-675 on my TV with the cable card, I cannot find them (or they're encrypted?) on my TV with the QAM tuner only, which should be able to view them as a digital channel in the format XXX-X? Unless I'm really confused...and these expected new channels in March interest more than what came out in early december...So, has anyone located those channels on their QAM tuner?

arf1410 -- they're encrypted.

arf1410 -- they're encrypted.


Bummer ...but not surprised...So am I just getting lucky that my cablecard unscrambles them for me? or is that normal? Can anyone else view them (who doesn't pay for a HD package) with either a cable card or cable box?

Bummer ...but not surprised...So am I just getting lucky that my cablecard unscrambles them for me? or is that normal? Can anyone else view them (who doesn't pay for a HD package) with either a cable card or cable box?

The main purpose of the cablecard is to unscramble channels which you would get with your package if you had a cable box.

Hey all. Does anyone have recent experience with the various premium packages and promos Comcast has? I find their offerings very convoluted, and it seems that when I call and talk to them I don't always get told about everything that's really available (i.e. there are sometimes promos that you have to ask for to get). Some reps I've talked to haven't even been able (or maybe willing) to talk through the various standard packages they have.

I forget the exact tier I have right now, but I have most of the digital cable channels including HD, and I also have HBO and Starz. I want Showtime (and I don't want to lose HBO). I'd be willing to trade Starz for Showtime, but it seems like Starz and HBO are bundled, so they don't want to do that. Last time I asked them, they told me all I could do is add on Showtime a la carte for what seemed like a pretty high price (I forget the exact number now). If I have to increase my bill by $20/mo. just to get that one more channel, I'm not inclined to do it...

Any suggestions?

Sweet! I can't wait until those channels are added. I'll have to update the HD space on my TiVo3 to get all my shows in HD now. :)

I have upgraded my internal Tivo S3 to a 750GB drive, which has been sufficient for now. I expect once there are tons of HD channels, I will want a bigger drive. Hopefully, there will be 2TB drives at that time, which is rumored to be as much as the S3 can handle.

Hey all. Does anyone have recent experience with the various premium packages and promos Comcast has? I find their offerings very convoluted, and it seems that when I call and talk to them I don't always get told about everything that's really available (i.e. there are sometimes promos that you have to ask for to get). Some reps I've talked to haven't even been able (or maybe willing) to talk through the various standard packages they have.

I forget the exact tier I have right now, but I have most of the digital cable channels including HD, and I also have HBO and Starz. I want Showtime (and I don't want to lose HBO). I'd be willing to trade Starz for Showtime, but it seems like Starz and HBO are bundled, so they don't want to do that. Last time I asked them, they told me all I could do is add on Showtime a la carte for what seemed like a pretty high price (I forget the exact number now). If I have to increase my bill by $20/mo. just to get that one more channel, I'm not inclined to do it...

Any suggestions?

I know how you feel. I just removed expanded basic from my services. Last night, I was told that such could not be done unless I removed the Digital Preferred package. This sounded like bunk, so I called Comcast again today and asked the same request. The CSR told me I could keep Digital Preferred if I paid $12.95 for a truck roll. I chose to do so, as the savings from removing expanded basic is over $30 per month.

As for your question, sorry I do not have any experience with the premium packages.

Great news about the HD channels! Coincidentally, I just sent an email yesterday to Comcast requesting those mentioned and a couple others including SpeedHD and Food... not sure it will help or not.

As for your question, sorry I do not have any experience with the premium packages.

Thanks for at least sharing in my pain.

I just got home and took a look at my most recent bill. Now I'm even more confused. My bill says I have Digital Preferred, HBO and Starz, for a total of $84.23. Looking at Comcast's site, Digital Preferred with HBO and Starz is $98.24 (after the promotional period). Our promo period ended long ago (and there's no discount shown on our bill), so I don't know what is going on. Maybe we're grandfathered into a lower (if $85/mo. can be used in the same sentence as "low") rate or something...

Great news that more hd channels are coming in march....

I am the only one who's cable is out right now? My wife is freaking out because she can't watch American Idol. I called Comcast and the message did say that there is an outage in my area (I'm in Maple Valley), but I was wondering if this was a more widespread problem. Gotta love Comcast:mad:

It was fine as of 8:30...

I'm in Maple Valley, and our cable didn't come back on until this morning. My Tivo Series 3 only is getting the analog channels though. I'm hoping I don't have to spend a couple hours on the phone with Comcast.

Oh, that's great news. I saw mine was back this morning as well, but the Tivo was still showing me grey. I reset it, but didn't have time to stick around and see if everything came back. Let me know how yours turns out.

my tivo was grey this morning also. I leave at 4:45 am so did not look much, just switched the input to Directv for my cereal viewing.

I just got home and took a look at my most recent bill. Now I'm even more confused. My bill says I have Digital Preferred, HBO and Starz, for a total of $84.23. Looking at Comcast's site, Digital Preferred with HBO and Starz is $98.24 (after the promotional period). Our promo period ended long ago (and there's no discount shown on our bill), so I don't know what is going on. Maybe we're grandfathered into a lower (if $85/mo. can be used in the same sentence as "low") rate or something...

Do you live in an apartment or condominium complex?

Many of them have negotiated special rates for the basic or expanded basic cable package, and the difference is subtracted from your bill. The $98.24 price includes expanded basic, and that is usually where the fudging comes in.

Of course, you would actually be paying for the basic cable package in your HOA fees in that case.

Rebooting the Tivo seemed to do the trick. I have to reboot my cable modem and router too on my computer.

I am the only one who's cable is out right now? My wife is freaking out because she can't watch American Idol. I called Comcast and the message did say that there is an outage in my area (I'm in Maple Valley), but I was wondering if this was a more widespread problem. Gotta love Comcast:mad:

I saw on the news that someone shot out a main fiber optic line somewhere. Must have been in Maple Valley.

On another note, I'm still deciding whether to switch to Comcast and buy Tivo boxes or rent the Comcast HD DVR's. Does Comcast still supply the channel menu if you go Tivo? Or do you have buy a subsciption from Tivo?. My Directv package has the Tivo service included in it now.

Thanks, Mike

Do you live in an apartment or condominium complex?

No, I'm in a single-family house. I think I must have just been grandfathered into an old plan (intentionally or otherwise). Since I called and upgraded, my pricing now matches the website. "Yay!"

I saw on the news that someone shot out a main fiber optic line somewhere. Must have been in Maple Valley.

On another note, I'm still deciding whether to switch to Comcast and buy Tivo boxes or rent the Comcast HD DVR's. Does Comcast still supply the channel menu if you go Tivo? Or do you have buy a subsciption from Tivo?. My Directv package has the Tivo service included in it now.

Thanks, Mike

Thanks for the info. Yes, you do have to buy a subscription from Tivo to get their guide and service. I would highly suggest it though if you have the extra money, as the Tivo Series 3 is a much, much better working box than the Comcast DVR.

Could someone please shed light on why the National Geographic HD channel is on the Digital Classic package tier and higher, while all the rest of the HD channels (including the new ones) are available on the Digital Starter tier? Is comcast going to eventually shift NGHD to Starter? Just curious...

Thanks in advance

Most of the HD choices are now in line with the package their standard def counterpart exists in, if there is one (USA, A&E, ESPN1&2, Mojo which also has some FSN, TNT, Versus/Golf). Getting NGHD is actually one tier better since the sd version is in Preferred, the next tier higher ... now explain that one!

Could someone please shed light on why the National Geographic HD channel is on the Digital Classic package tier and higher, while all the rest of the HD channels (including the new ones) are available on the Digital Starter tier? Is comcast going to eventually shift NGHD to Starter? Just curious...

I believe NGC SD is on Digital Classic, so the HD station would be, as well.

Comcast seems to be mapping the HD channels to their SD package equivalents. So if you get the channel in SD, you will also get it in HD when it becomes available in HD.

I believe NGC SD is on Digital Classic, so the HD station would be, as well.

Comcast seems to be mapping the HD channels to their SD package equivalents. So if you get the channel in SD, you will also get it in HD when it becomes available in HD.

That stinks...had access to the channel while borrowing a friend's hd box for a few days, but lost it when I moved to the digital starter package. I like the station, but that and BBCA not worth the extra $13 or so it will cost to get them.

Looking forward to the new channels in March...if it happens.

i had a weird thing happen last night that i was hoping somebody might be able to explain.
i just bought a samsung lnt 4065f. it's my first hd display. i don't watch a lot of tv, so i'm planning on using an antenna to get whatever OTA signals i can pick up rather than paying for hd cable. hooking up regular rabbit ears, i've been able to get king, komo and kiro, as well as some other digital channels.
but, i somehow get free regular cable in the apartment i live in (no cable box or anything, just a jack in the wall). last night, i plugged the regular cable in and started the auto program on the tv. i interrupted it while it was going through the process of deleting the scrambled channels and was flipping through the stations really quick when i noticed that i was getting the local hd stations - i could see 4.1, 5.1, 7.1, 9.x (i forget the exact number) but not 13.1, which i thought was a little strange. I unplugged the indoor antenna that i had already hooked up to make sure that i wasn't getting those channels because of that, and they were still there. Within a few minutes, though, 5.1 and 7.1 had disappeared. I still had 4.1 this morning, but could get the others.
So, was this a total fluke that got me local channels in hd for a few minutes, or is there some possibility that my free cable also includes free hd channels?