Apparently, the Motorola DCX3400 has native output capability:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Business/Products/TV%20Video%20Distribution/Customer%20Premises%20Equipment/All%20Digital%20QAM%20Set-tops/DCX3400/_Documents/staticfile/DCX3400%20User%20Guide.pdf?localeId=33
Not quite was I'm looking for.

I'm looking for something that will allow a non-cable card ready TV to act like one.

IE, plug in the cable card, but still have control of your channels via your TV remote.

CBC lost the Olympics bid to CTV, so unfortunately there will be no Olympics coverage on CBC.


Being a Vancouver channel, CBUT should be covering the effects of the Olympics on the city of Vancouver, something that CTV and NBC would probably gloss over. Hopefully that coverage will be in HD.

Being a Vancouver channel, CBUT should be covering the effects of the Olympics on the city of Vancouver, something that CTV and NBC would probably gloss over. Hopefully that coverage will be in HD.I have no doubt that both CBC national and local news will have lots of Olympics-related coverage during the Olympics. "CBC News: The National" is done in HD, but I'm pretty sure that the local news from Vancouver is not in HD, although a lot can change between now and the start of the Olympics.

I guess we'll find out more in August once we get our first look at CBUT-HD.

From Brier Dudley's column in the Times (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/technologybrierdudleysblog/2009408896_comcast_channel_shuffles_in_au.html):
Comcast channel shuffles in August, Clearwire bundles in 2010
Posted by Brier Dudley

Comcast is shuffling a bunch of channels in early August in King County, including a few moves related to its digital conversion.

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Does that mean King County *including Seattle* or *excluding Seattle*? I wish people would be a little more clear in these pronouncements.

Has anyone successfully hooked up an external hard drive to the HD DVR?
Anyone?

Does that mean King County *including Seattle* or *excluding Seattle*? I wish people would be a little more clear in these pronouncements.I would guess that the changes in tiers for existing channels probably applies county-wide, but the HD channel additions will only occur in areas that have had analog reclamation. Other areas would not have the necessary bandwidth to add the additional HD feeds.

Has anyone successfully hooked up an external hard drive to the HD DVR?

Not yet.

Anyone else not getting KOMO HD, channel 104, today? Just a blank gray screen for me on the west side of Kent. The SD KOMO channel is there, but no HD.

Anyone else not getting KOMO HD, channel 104, today? Just a blank gray screen for me on the west side of Kent. The SD KOMO channel is there, but no HD.


No KOMO HD here in Bellevue either....

No KOMO 104 in Covington...

No KOMO 104 in Seattle / Greenlake

Good to know it's not just me, thanks! Nothing on that I want to watch that's worth the hassle of calling Comcast.

Anyone else not getting KOMO HD, channel 104, today? Just a blank gray screen for me on the west side of Kent. The SD KOMO channel is there, but no HD.

Fisher Plaza had a "significant power event" last night. ETA for recovery is 1:30 PM today. See http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/07/03/major-outage-at-seattle-data-center/ for details.

Not only can I not get KOMO HD on my TiVo or cable box, but I can't get it OTA either! Could just be me (the signal is a bit marginal where I am), but it usually works.

Problem is at KOMO: Fire at Fisher Plaza Disrupts KOMO broadcasts (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49873927.html)

Anyone else not getting KOMO HD, channel 104, today? Just a blank gray screen for me on the west side of Kent. The SD KOMO channel is there, but no HD.

I can get KOMO-HD in Mill Creek, but they're broadcasting their sister station (KATU Portland) feed, and it's SD. And it's the same feed on both 4-1 and 4-2 (no THIS TV). No 11am newscast today, either.

I can get KOMO-HD in Mill Creek, but they're broadcasting their sister station (KATU Portland) feed, and it's SD. And it's the same feed on both 4-1 and 4-2 (no THIS TV). No 11am newscast today, either.That's exactly how it is for me, even though I don't have Comcast anymore. I just like to pass through here and get updates for my Comcast friends, as well as provide what little information I can obtain for Kitsap County.

What are considered normal/acceptable signal levels for Comcast TV service?

I have a tuner that is apparently especially sensitive to marginal signals. Initially after getting everything set up, channels on the 91.X would not tune; the tuner's diagnostics showed the signal level at -15dBmv. Installing a Radio Shack 15-1170 brought that up to -8 and enabled reception on those channels.

But I still have other channels that are marginal; sometimes tune and sometimes not. Those show a signal level of -9dBmv.

Looking at various channels shows that the signal level is all over the place, ranging from from -9dBmv to over 30dBmv. (If it matters, the signal to noise ratio shows at around 30 for all channels I checked.)

I tried various things to eliminate wiring issues, splitter issues, etc. Nothing changed.

Admittedly my tuner may be sensitive... it seems that around -9dBmv is a cutoff point for it... but a 40dBmv swing across channels seems excessive.

What is Comcast's standard for acceptable signal levels?

What are considered normal/acceptable signal levels for Comcast TV service?

I don't know what the cutoffs are, but I called Comcast a few months ago for weak analog on the VHF Low band. The tech checked the signal level inside, and it was "very low" on the VHF Low band and "very good" on the VHF High band. Levels were similarly disparate at the pole. He scheduled a line crew to trace the problem, and it was resolved within, at most, 2 days.

It's certainly worth calling them. They solved my problem... quickly!

What is Comcast's standard for acceptable signal levels?

I think, in my case, the rather subjective "standard" was that the picture I was getting on the VHF Low band was lousy, and the tech agreed. :)

Using an HDHomeRun (ClearQAM) with Limited Cable I'm seeing a bunch more channels now in Mukilteo. Probably three times as many now vs previously.

Not sure if it has to do with the upcoming changes... And I'm not sure if this change happened recently or not as it had been a few months since I did a channel scan.

This list was fairly accurate as of yesterday:
https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:98275#lineup_391924

Uh-oh, it looks like they are duplicating a lot of channels in the 9x-x range into the 3x-x range. I understand Comcast plans to drop the 9x-x channels, which are visible even to those with limited basic, in favor of the 3x-x channels, which are blocked for limited basic customers. I have been enjoying the entire expanded basic lineup via ClearQAM for a few months for less than $20/mo, and will probably have a few months more in Seattle. Not sure what I'll do after they make the switch. We were paying $118/mo for a digital tier w/ one HD box and one HD-DVR. That was way too much for perceived value. Might just stick w/ limited basic and watch more online or on DVD.

Has there been any analog dropouts in the Bainbridge Island area?

I read on the DSL Reports forum that two new HD boxes are available in the Seattle area: the DVR is the DCX3425, 250 GB box and a non DVR, Pace RNG110. Has anyone picked these up yet? If so, which office? Any reviews?

Thanks,

I read on the DSL Reports forum that two new HD boxes are available in the Seattle area: the DVR is the DCX3425, 250 GB box and a non DVR, Pace RNG110. Has anyone picked these up yet? If so, which office? Any reviews?


I called Comcast and they said that the DCX3425 is not available yet in Washington State, and is limited availability in the rest of the country. The didn't have an ETA as too when it would be available.

I'm dropping DVR service (my 1 year Comcast servivce discount on that feature is up & we really never used it very much. It's been pretty buggy the few times we've tried to use it and it's simply not worth to us the $15.99/mo. that it would cost to keep.)

So, I need to return my "HD-STB with DVR" to the cable store & get a "HD-STB without DVR".

Some questions:

1. Going forward, will I be charged for the "HD-STB without DVR" or is that included in what I'm being charged for the HD service? (We have "Digital Preferred", as part of a Comcast HDTV Cable/Broadband Internet/Telephone package.)

2. I understand there are various different boxes in use - what are my HD-STB choices are likely to be and what differences, if any, are there among them?

3. As my Sony HD Plasma TV is several years old and has a DVI input but no HDMI input, must I get a box with "DVI out", or can I use a box w/HDMI out & an HDMI>DVI adapter?

4. As HDMI is indegrated audio & video, but DVI is "audio-only", do HDMI boxes have separate "audio out" jacks so that HDMI STBs can be used with a DVI adapter and separate audio cables on a "DVI-only" HD-TV?

5. Finally, if I can use a box w/HDMI on my "DVI-only" HD-TV, will Comcast supply the HDMI>DVI adapter or am I on my own for that?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

1. Going forward, will I be charged for the "HD-STB without DVR" or is that included in what I'm being charged for the HD service? (We have "Digital Preferred", as part of a Comcast HDTV Cable/Broadband Internet/Telephone package.)

2. I understand there are various different boxes in use - what are my HD-STB choices are likely to be and what differences, if any, are there among them?

3. As my Sony HD Plasma TV is several years old and has a DVI input but no HDMI input, must I get a box with "DVI out", or can I use a box w/HDMI out & an HDMI>DVI adapter?

4. As HDMI is indegrated audio & video, but DVI is "audio-only", do HDMI boxes have separate "audio out" jacks so that HDMI STBs can be used with a DVI adapter and separate audio cables on a "DVI-only" HD-TV?

5. Finally, if I can use a box w/HDMI on my "DVI-only" HD-TV, will Comcast supply the HDMI>DVI adapter or am I on my own for that?1. Yes, you will be charged. I am unsure of the price, though.

2. Unfortunately, I can't get a straight answer here.

3. An HDMI to DVI adapter shouldn't hurt, but don't quote me on that one, LOL!

4. My DCT6416 box has HDMI on it, and even with the DCT6412 with a VGA converter, audio out was fully compatible.

5. You will most likely have to supply your own adapter here.

I'm dropping DVR service (my 1 year Comcast servivce discount on that feature is up & we really never used it very much. It's been pretty buggy the few times we've tried to use it and it's simply not worth to us the $15.99/mo. that it would cost to keep.)

So, I need to return my "HD-STB with DVR" to the cable store & get a "HD-STB without DVR".

Some questions:

1. Going forward, will I be charged for the "HD-STB without DVR" or is that included in what I'm being charged for the HD service? (We have "Digital Preferred", as part of a Comcast HDTV Cable/Broadband Internet/Telephone package.)

2. I understand there are various different boxes in use - what are my HD-STB choices are likely to be and what differences, if any, are there among them?

3. As my Sony HD Plasma TV is several years old and has a DVI input but no HDMI input, must I get a box with "DVI out", or can I use a box w/HDMI out & an HDMI>DVI adapter?

4. As HDMI is indegrated audio & video, but DVI is "audio-only", do HDMI boxes have separate "audio out" jacks so that HDMI STBs can be used with a DVI adapter and separate audio cables on a "DVI-only" HD-TV?

5. Finally, if I can use a box w/HDMI on my "DVI-only" HD-TV, will Comcast supply the HDMI>DVI adapter or am I on my own for that?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

1. Not sure
2. Don't know anymore, but I believe I used to have a DCH3200 which was a newer model at the time (last year).
3. you can use an HDMI->DVI adapter
4. DVI is video only. All the HDMI boxes I've seen (including the DCH3200) have separate audio outs (digital and analog).
5. Didn't used too - only gave component cables and analog audio cables to me in the past.

I've downgraded to limited basic, so I don't have any of this stuff anymore, but that's my understanding.


Edit: Looks like I got beat to the punch

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1. Going forward, will I be charged for the "HD-STB without DVR" or is that included in what I'm being charged for the HD service?
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The charge is for the HD box, not HD service. You will pay $6.50 for a non-DVR HD box in place of the $15.95 for the HD DVR.

Edit: Looks like I got beat to the punchLOL, I didn't even notice!

Howdy folks,

Long thread (ok, ridiculously long thread ;) ) Is there a current roundup of PQ between D* HD and Comcast HD in the Seattle area? Ideally with samples and bitrates (if both are MPEG-4)

Lost KCTS and Fox in the transition despite having a dual mode antenna and my d* box is an MPEG-2 HD Tivo, so I'm forced into making a choice.

thanks

Howdy folks,

Long thread (ok, ridiculously long thread ;) ) Is there a current roundup of PQ between D* HD and Comcast HD in the Seattle area? Ideally with samples and bitrates (if both are MPEG-4)

Lost KCTS and Fox in the transition despite having a dual mode antenna and my d* box is an MPEG-2 HD Tivo, so I'm forced into making a choice.

thanksComcast is still all MPEG2 as far as I know. Local HD stations are passed thru direct from the affiliate and should be identical to OTA - they are given a full 19.2 Mbit/s QAM stream (some of which could be wasted on subchannels, but that's up to the local affiliate, not Comcast).

PQ varies a lot on cable-only channels, however. Last year Comcast started shaving bitrates on those channels for which they are the distributor (see Comcast HITS, or Headend In The Sky). For many of these channels, they now fit 3 HD QAM programs into each 6Mhz analog channel, rather than 2 programs. This is supposed to be motion-adaptive multiplexing - giving more bandwidth to action vs. talking heads - but we definitely started seeing more artifacts after they made this switch.

Not sure how this compares with current D* offerings, sorry.

Shaving the bitrates, huh? This explains the instantaneous "Wow, this looks much better" response when I moved!

Does that mean King County *including Seattle* or *excluding Seattle*? I wish people would be a little more clear in these pronouncements.

Yet again we get the shaft in Seattle. I love how I'm paying the same price as my parents are in Auburn, but they get a ton more HD content.

Shaving the bitrates, huh? This explains the instantaneous "Wow, this looks much better" response when I moved!Not sure what response you're referring to, or where you moved to - but most of the time, it's not that huge a difference in HD PQ. It's content-dependent. Noticable? - yes. "WOW!" - no.

Palladia has moved to 685 and 661 shows To Be Announced in Kent area
sam

Palladia has moved to 685 and 661 shows To Be Announced in Kent area
sam

Same thing in Seattle. 661 will be MSNBC whenever Comcast decides to give it you.

At the Comcast Cable Store, they replaced my Motorola DVR STB with a Motorola DCX3200 w/out DVR. The new box is literally just a "black box", with absolutely no front panel controls (not even a power switch) or read out - just a front-mounted green power light and an amber data exchange light next to it...

So, I have to use the remote & the on-screen displays for everything. It's frustrating to not even have a simple channel display on the box - have to use the remote's "info" & "exit" buttons just to see what channel the box is tuned to - definitely a step down in convenience/user friendliness.

At least this box seems a little more responsive to the remote than the old box (which was very sluggish in responding to commands sent via remote) - a good thing this box is a little better in this regard, given this box's total reliance on the remote for everything...

This new box has no DVI - just HDMI, but comcast DID furnish an HDMI>DVI adapter cable.

Bottom line - despite the lack of any physical features on the box, the box does seem to function properly - and, most importantly, PQ seems the same as on the prior box.

The HD STB that is not a DVR is not a Motorola DCX-3200,it's a Pace HD Box.They do have the Motorola HD-DVR DCX-3425.I tried to get one last Saturday and they ran out in Auburn.

Not sure what response you're referring to, or where you moved to - but most of the time, it's not that huge a difference in HD PQ. It's content-dependent. Noticable? - yes. "WOW!" - no.Jim, I live out in the Silverdale area under Wave Broadband now. I was a former customer to Comcast, and I keep an eye on this forum for my friends/family who must suffer with such horrible service.

Back in March, I got all hooked up, and noticed an immediate difference in HD quality compared to Comcast. That will explain why I could give a "WOW!" kind of response when I look at Comcast HD between December '07 (bought my HDTV then) & March '09 (when I moved). Then, seeing HD from Wave Broadband's HD for the first time.

While they may not offer just as much (if not more), it's also smart so no "shaving" is needed. However, I also do get some HD channels I've never seen before.

The HD STB that is not a DVR is not a Motorola DCX-3200,it's a Pace HD Box.They do have the Motorola HD-DVR DCX-3425.I tried to get one last Saturday and they ran out in Auburn.

I gotta ask.

Is the software in the 3425 different surrounding the DVR features? Or is it the same old-same old broken pos that doesn't let me cancel 2 out of three things recording at the same time.

Palladia has moved to 685 and 661 shows To Be Announced in Kent area
sam

I'm in Kent and still have Palladia on 661.:confused:

The HD STB that is not a DVR is not a Motorola DCX-3200,it's a Pace HD Box.They do have the Motorola HD-DVR DCX-3425.I tried to get one last Saturday and they ran out in Auburn.

:confused: The STB says Motorola DCX3200 & has the Motorola insignia on it's face - and the Manual for it says Motorola & DCX3200 all over the place... :confused:

I'm in Kent and still have Palladia on 661.:confused:
I live beside Lake Meridian which is Zone 65 (Kent) according to Comcast and as I said, Palladia is on 685. Each node may have different channels. When I used a QAM tuner, I found both Renton and Kent city council meetings available on nearby channels.
sam

Palladia has moved to 685 and 661 shows To Be Announced in Kent area
sam

Same thing in Seattle. 661 will be MSNBC whenever Comcast decides to give it you.

I checked last night when I got home from work and Palladia has now moved to 685 here in Normandy Park too.

I checked last night when I got home from work and Palladia has now moved to 685 here in Normandy Park too.Looks like it's an area wide change. Looks to be that way in Kitsap County as well.

Caller ID is up and running for triple play customers in Lakewood. Whoo Hoo, kinda cool. they also have a PC version but I have not tried that yet. Love screening my calls. Now a lot easier.

BTW: pc version is at
www.comcast.net/callerid

Hey folks - question for this group: I'm in Seattle and am about to move from DTV to Comcast HD. (I know the arguments, but I finally got a package I can't refuse in these crazy economic times.)

I'm going to get an HD-DVR, and I _might_ be able to request a particular model (or at least I can try!), but I can't get a sense of what models are out there and what I should pick. Can anybody summarize quickly or point me to a good source? Happy to pay it forward.

Thx -
Scott

Here's a reference for the DVRs:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR/Identifying_your_model

I've heard that the DCX3400 may be available here with a 250GB disk. I personally recommend buying a TiVo HD, though.

Thx, wareagle - this is a lot of info, but doesn't really help with comparison, or tell me what's available in the SEA market. Does anyone know?

Thx, wareagle - this is a lot of info, but doesn't really help with comparison, or tell me what's available in the SEA market. Does anyone know?

Choose either the DCH3416 or the DCX3400, but you'll most likely get whatever they give you.

I know that Comcast is converting stations from analog --> digital, in Seattle and elsewhere. So, some stations will no longer be available in analog.

This change has the effect of wrecking my use of a DVR box. My DVR box (not from Comcast) requires an analog signal. (Many people with VCRs are screwed as well.) The DTA (digital to analog) converters being offered by Comcast are maddening since they require the converter to be set to the channel you would record.

My options are to (a) leave Comcast, (b) get a Comcast DVR, or (3) build my own PVR. Not sure when Verizon FIOS will hit my area, and not sure I want the monthly expense of a Comcast DVR.

If I build my own PVR, are there any channels that only come in analog? If all stations are now available in digital, is there any point in having an analog tuner card? Some stations are not available in analog; that is my problem. But are any stations not available in digital?

How come THIS channel does not show up on the TVG with program info? I'm in Sammamish and have a PDP 5080 Pioneer.
Thanks
Mike

I just noticed that HBO-HD is back on VOD! It looks like they have all of their new series and their current movies. I've got 5 episodes of "True Blood" clogging up my DVR. Can I really erase and count on HD-VOD to remain? The listings state that "True Blood" episode 1 should be available until 10/12.

Still no action on the new HD channels in the core Seattle area.

I know that Comcast is converting stations from analog --> digital, in Seattle and elsewhere. So, some stations will no longer be available in analog.

This change has the effect of wrecking my use of a DVR box. My DVR box (not from Comcast) requires an analog signal. (Many people with VCRs are screwed as well.) The DTA (digital to analog) converters being offered by Comcast are maddening since they require the converter to be set to the channel you would record.

My options are to (a) leave Comcast, (b) get a Comcast DVR, or (3) build my own PVR. Not sure when Verizon FIOS will hit my area, and not sure I want the monthly expense of a Comcast DVR.

If I build my own PVR, are there any channels that only come in analog? If all stations are now available in digital, is there any point in having an analog tuner card? Some stations are not available in analog; that is my problem. But are any stations not available in digital?

Bye to analog (on cable) by 2012, period, it will be a dead standard.
You will (or should) be able to tune cable QAM for locals. As soon as Comcast gets their waiver, they will enable "privacy mode" on the DTAs so any "free" digital channels you can get at the moment will be encrypted! I use a Silicon Dust HDHomerun to record network TV in HD. It's the BEST option for recording clearQAM cable channels.

As far as recording premium channels (I use a TiVo HD), there are too many variables right now... ATI CableCard tuners (OEM, or serious modding required), tru2way (on the horizon), SDV (tuning resolver available for TiVo...not for the PC)...

Oh, and by the way, Motorola boxes suck! (and have a limited recording capability, when they do work) :rolleyes:

Funny how the DCT6416 (I/III/III) isn't listed!

Picked up the DCX3400 today at the Auburn office. The Seattle office had plenty as well. Looks a lot nicer in my rack, but I did have to remove the rubber feet for it to fit in the slot without adjusting my stand height. The guide is still loading, but I can see that the new HD channels are listed. The brightness of the time/channel is really bright and distracting and I don't think it's adjustable.

Picked up the DCX3400 today at the Auburn office. The Seattle office had plenty as well. Looks a lot nicer in my rack, but I did have to remove the rubber feet for it to fit in the slot without adjusting my stand height. The guide is still loading, but I can see that the new HD channels are listed. The brightness of the time/channel is really bright and distracting and I don't think it's adjustable.

Is this a DVR or just a box? Do you know if they have the integrated cable modem?

The last 2 digits in the number (on Motorola) boxes = the drive size...
DCT/DCH-3412 = 120GB
3416 = 160GB
I would think that the DCX3400 would not have a drive.

The brightness of the time/channel is really bright and distracting and I don't think it's adjustable.

Be thankful that at least is has a time/channel display. The DCX3200 (DVR-less STB) I got last week doesn't have any display at all...

The last 2 digits in the number (on Motorola) boxes = the drive size...
DCT/DCH-3412 = 120GB
3416 = 160GB
I would think that the DCX3400 would not have a drive.

And the second digit is twice the number of tuners, so why would it need two of those?

Here's the user's guide that says it's a DVR:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Business/Products/TV%20Video%20Distribution/Customer%20Premises%20Equipment/All%20Digital%20QAM%20Set-tops/DCX3400/_Documents/staticfile/DCX3400%20User%20Guide.pdf

Picked up the DCX3400 today at the Auburn office. The Seattle office had plenty as well. Looks a lot nicer in my rack, but I did have to remove the rubber feet for it to fit in the slot without adjusting my stand height. The guide is still loading, but I can see that the new HD channels are listed. The brightness of the time/channel is really bright and distracting and I don't think it's adjustable.
Duct tape from the space program works wonders over the stupid display.
sam

Have others noticed an abnormal amount of "herring-bone" interference on CBUT today, along with an abnormally low audio level? I had to REALLY crank up the volume just to watch "Coronation Street" tonight..........

I'm awaiting Comcast's carriage of the CBUT HD feed.

Is this a DVR or just a box? Do you know if they have the integrated cable modem?

The DCX3400 has a 250gb hard drive and is a dual tuner DVR. I believe the 3400 is the 3425 everyone has been discussing. Comcast didn't know anything about a 3425. When I asked to exchange my other box for the 3400, they said "Oh you want the new one" and had to go into the back.

Motorola's site says there is an internal modem but I don't know how to use it yet. I haven't looked at the manual online yet, Comcast didn't furnish one. Menus look the same. There are two red record lights, one for each tuner..."Rec1" and "Rec2". Message warning light is a white envelope, and the power light is a blue ring. When all are on the display is red, white, and blue.

From the Motorola site:

Enhanced Video Tuning
1GHz digital video tuner supports future plant expansion, enabling operators to increase the number of available channels.

Tru2way™/ OpenCable Application Platform (OCAP™)

Enables next generation interactive services and applications with an industry standard, open platform for application developers.

Advanced Video Decoding

High definition MPEG-4 AVC optimizes bandwidth incontent delivery without loss of content quality.

Advanced Audio Decoding

Dolby Digital Plus increases the number of separate sound channels from 5.1 to 7.1 with improved quality and flexibility.

Whole Home Networking

MoCA 1.1 (optional) enables high speed (up to 175 Mpbs) delivery of media rich content throughout the home using existing coax wiring.

New Version High Definition Multimedia Interface
Next generation HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) upgradable through future software release to enable future improvements such as: more depth and range of color for high defintion TV, master quality lossless audio formats, and automatic audio synching (lip sync).


http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/electronics-weekly-blog/DCX3400.jpg

Just because Motorola says a box supports certain features, doesn't mean that Comcast has any intention of ever enabling or provisioning them. Motorola's product literature is aimed at *their customers* - eg, the cable companies - not us.

Been waiting almost 5 years for those ethernet and USB ports to start working on my DCT5100s... :-)

I use a Silicon Dust HDHomerun to record network TV in HD. It's the BEST option for recording clearQAM cable channels.

What is the advantage of Silicon Dust HDHomerun? Why use? Where do you have it installed on our network? Why do you like it more than an digital tuner card?

The HDHR is an external device, so you don't have to worry about space/power concerns inside your PC. And since it is external, it can be shared between multiple PCs. The software allows "Dynamic Allocation" between PCs... 1st come, 1st serve... if one PC grabs the 1st tuner, another PC has to use the second. (so you don't blow a recording).

Probably the best reason to get a HDHR is the fantastic software support! Silicon Dust is constantly working to keep this product on the cutting edge with support for multiple media center applications.

I have tried many internal tuners before making the switch over a year and a half ago... and never looked back. I first used my HDHR with MCE2005. Silicon Dust software allowed me to use my HDHR for QAM (when no other tuners could). I now use Vista Media Center, and W7 (RC, b7100), and the HDHR continues to work flawlessly!

I have it installed on a 4-port 100Mbit switch by my 2 HTPCs.

"I feed it Comcastic". I have experimented with the OTA ATSC tuners. It is quite good. But in my location, I cannot get the local FOX network, so I went back to using cable. (local networks only, I don't watch/record SDTV!).

You can use multiple HDHRs in your system. 4 channels at once... :cool:

Palladia has moved to 685 and 661 shows To Be Announced in Kent area (
sam
661 is now MSNBC HD, 619 is CBUT HD, and 704 is Comedy HD. I have not checked the others in area 65.
sam

Have others noticed an abnormal amount of "herring-bone" interference on CBUT today...

I swapped out a cable card yesterday morning and doing a channel check after the pairing I noticed CBUT looked like a sat feed during a sun storm. Looks okay today.

661 is now MSNBC HD, 619 is CBUT HD, and 704 is Comedy HD. I have not checked the others in area 65.

Here in Bellevue 661 is live, but it just notes that whatever channel used to be on 661 is now on 685. 619 and 704 jump to VOD Channel 1 on my TivoHD.

They are supposed to be here today, I have Digital Preferred on Vashon Island which is on the list, but I don't see anything yet other then Palladia moved last week.

Beginning tomorrow (*the press release was July 20) the new programming will be available to residential homes and businesses in the following communities:

Everett, Brier, Clearview, Lynnwood, Mill Creek, Mountlake Terrace, Mukilteo, Black Diamond, Covington, Enumclaw, Maple Valley, Pacific, Bonney Lake, Buckley, Carbonado, Eatonville, Graham, Orting, Roy, South Prairie, Wilkeson, Algona, Auburn, Burien, Federal Way, Kent, SeaTac, Tukwila,, Edgewood, Fort Lewis, McChord AFB, Parkland, Puyallup, Sumner, Vashon Island, Arlington, Beverly Lane, Goldbar, Granite Falls, Lake Stevens, Marysville, Monroe, Silver Lake, Snohomish,, Startup, Sultan, Woodscreek, Centralia, Chehalis, Lacey, Lewis County, Mason County, Olympia, Rainier, Rochester, Shelton, Tenino, Thurston County, Tumwater and Yelm.



588 TMC West HD
589 TMC Xtra West HD
619 CBUT HD
621 ESPNU HD
630 NBA TV HD
631 NHL Network HD
632 Big Ten Network HD
633 CBS College Sports HD
634 Tennis Channel HD
635 Outdoor Channel HD
661 MSNBC HD
686 CMT HD
687 VH1 HD
688 MTV HD
689 BET HD
700 MGM HD
701 TCM HD
703 Hallmark Movie Channel HD
704 Comedy Central HD
705 Tru TV HD
706 The Weather Channel HD
543 HBO2 West HD
544 HBO Signature West HD
545 HBO Family West HD
546 HBO Latino West HD
547 HBO Comedy West HD
548 HBO Zone West HD
564 MoreMax West HD
571 Showtime Too West HD
572 Showtime Showcase West HD
573 Showtime Extreme West HD
440 iNDemand Team HD

They are supposed to be here today, I have Digital Preferred on Vashon Island which is on the list, but I don't see anything yet other then Palladia moved last week.

Beginning tomorrow (*the press release was July 20) the new programming will be available to residential homes and businesses in the following communities:

<...snip>


I saw a post on another forum (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21604963-Comcast-Seattle-Adds-29-New-HD-Channels~start=80#end) indicating that the additional channels had arrived in Federal Way.

got these and a few more in the 650 series in olympia this morning over 100 hd channels now





They are supposed to be here today, I have Digital Preferred on Vashon Island which is on the list, but I don't see anything yet other then Palladia moved last week.

Beginning tomorrow (*the press release was July 20) the new programming will be available to residential homes and businesses in the following communities:

Everett, Brier, Clearview, Lynnwood, Mill Creek, Mountlake Terrace, Mukilteo, Black Diamond, Covington, Enumclaw, Maple Valley, Pacific, Bonney Lake, Buckley, Carbonado, Eatonville, Graham, Orting, Roy, South Prairie, Wilkeson, Algona, Auburn, Burien, Federal Way, Kent, SeaTac, Tukwila,, Edgewood, Fort Lewis, McChord AFB, Parkland, Puyallup, Sumner, Vashon Island, Arlington, Beverly Lane, Goldbar, Granite Falls, Lake Stevens, Marysville, Monroe, Silver Lake, Snohomish,, Startup, Sultan, Woodscreek, Centralia, Chehalis, Lacey, Lewis County, Mason County, Olympia, Rainier, Rochester, Shelton, Tenino, Thurston County, Tumwater and Yelm.



588 TMC West HD
589 TMC Xtra West HD
619 CBUT HD
621 ESPNU HD
630 NBA TV HD
631 NHL Network HD
632 Big Ten Network HD
633 CBS College Sports HD
634 Tennis Channel HD
635 Outdoor Channel HD
661 MSNBC HD
686 CMT HD
687 VH1 HD
688 MTV HD
689 BET HD
700 MGM HD
701 TCM HD
703 Hallmark Movie Channel HD
704 Comedy Central HD
705 Tru TV HD
706 The Weather Channel HD
543 HBO2 West HD
544 HBO Signature West HD
545 HBO Family West HD
546 HBO Latino West HD
547 HBO Comedy West HD
548 HBO Zone West HD
564 MoreMax West HD
571 Showtime Too West HD
572 Showtime Showcase West HD
573 Showtime Extreme West HD
440 iNDemand Team HD

I saw a post on another forum (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21604963-Comcast-Seattle-Adds-29-New-HD-Channels~start=80#end) indicating that the additional channels had arrived in Federal Way.
The SiliconDust resource at http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us is showing 60-2 as OnDemand, but I think it might be CBUT HD. Unfortunately for me, that is in the filtered range so I can't see it.

Why did they put CBUT HD in the 60s?! Now I cant watch it

Does anyone else have problems with channels 703, 704, 705 and 706. These are part of the new HD channels added this moring. I live in olympia and use a Tivo. I get the guide information; however, when I go to watch those channels (especially comedy central) nothing shows up, just a blank screen. I have family in Lacey, and they are able to watch the channels, so I am not sure why I wouldn't be able to get them, unless they are still working on the olympia area. I don't have any problems with any of the other channels that were added (although I can't check some of the sports ones as I don't subscribe to the sports package).
woops... also not getting 686, 687, 688, 689. (and I do subscribe to the digital starter - so i believe i should be getting them).

For the past 2 weeks or so, my DVR has been horrible at recognizing repeats. I have all the series recordings set to only record new episodes, but I'm getting tons of re-runs. It's even recording things that say repeat in the description.

For the past 2 weeks or so, my DVR has been horrible at recognizing repeats. I have all the series recordings set to only record new episodes, but I'm getting tons of re-runs. It's even recording things that say repeat in the description.I have had a lot of problems with extra recordings, but my DVR has not recorded any shows actually marked as being repeats.

I read on another thread that the company that supplies guide info to Comcast has been having problems with the data they are sending and that it's supposed to be fixed soon.

For the past 2 weeks or so, my DVR has been horrible at recognizing repeats. I have all the series recordings set to only record new episodes, but I'm getting tons of re-runs. It's even recording things that say repeat in the description.

Apparently there's been some change made in the listings that's messed up the handling of series recordings. A remedy is reportedly in work.

The HDHR is an external device, so you don't have to worry about space/power concerns inside your PC. And since it is external, it can be shared between multiple PCs. The software allows "Dynamic Allocation" between PCs... 1st come, 1st serve... if one PC grabs the 1st tuner, another PC has to use the second. (so you don't blow a recording).

Probably the best reason to get a HDHR is the fantastic software support! Silicon Dust is constantly working to keep this product on the cutting edge with support for multiple media center applications.

I have tried many internal tuners before making the switch over a year and a half ago... and never looked back. I first used my HDHR with MCE2005. Silicon Dust software allowed me to use my HDHR for QAM (when no other tuners could). I now use Vista Media Center, and W7 (RC, b7100), and the HDHR continues to work flawlessly!

I have it installed on a 4-port 100Mbit switch by my 2 HTPCs.

"I feed it Comcastic". I have experimented with the OTA ATSC tuners. It is quite good. But in my location, I cannot get the local FOX network, so I went back to using cable. (local networks only, I don't watch/record SDTV!).

You can use multiple HDHRs in your system. 4 channels at once... :cool:

Thank you for taking the time to explain the benefit of the HDHR. I have a few followup questions.

First, by using an external tuner is another benefit that you can remove another heat source from inside the box?

Second, I don't know what you mean when you say ". . . I don't watch/record SDTV!"

Third, I need to get an Internet connection to my planned HTPC. I would like to install a draft-N wireless card (if those exist) Is there a simpler suggestion? I don't have an Ethernet cable running to where our TV are located. How do you personally get an Internet connection to your HDHR?

Fourth, you extol the benefits of the HDHR. What are the key drawbacks/limitations?

Maybe I can help.

Thank you for taking the time to explain the benefit of the HDHR. I have a few followup questions.

First, by using an external tuner is another benefit that you can remove another heat source from inside the box?


Yes.

Second, I don't know what you mean when you say ". . . I don't watch/record SDTV!"

I assume this Just means he only watches HDTV channels, no SD channels.

Third, I need to get an Internet connection to my planned HTPC. I would like to install a draft-N wireless card (if those exist) Is there a simpler suggestion? I don't have an Ethernet cable running to where our TV are located. How do you personally get an Internet connection to your HDHR?


You can get a wireless N card for your computer. But you need to be running a wireless N network (have a wireless N router/access point or adapter). Other options to get a network connection to your HTPC without running cat 5/6 cable is a wireless game adapter or a powerline adapter.

I don't think the HDHR needs an internet connection. It needs a network connection to the computer that will be viewing from it. So it needs to be on your LAN (but most people's LANs are connected to the Internet). You may want to put the HDhomerun on the same switch as as the HTPC that will use it (if there is just one).

Fourth, you extol the benefits of the HDHR. What are the key drawbacks/limitations?

It really does what it supposed to do from what I've heard, so from that perspective there are no cons. However, it needs a network connection with enough bandwidth to support streaming the signals to the PC, and it is on the pricier side - I have 5 QAM/ATSC capable tuner cards and no two of them cost as much as the HDhomerun.

I'm back to answer your HDHR questions.

#1 - Not having an internal tuner means less load on your Power Supply and less internal heat (before I got the HDHR, I used an Aver HD160 PCIe TV tuner card that generated quite a bit of heat!).

#2 - Homey don't do SDTV! HD snob here...

#3 - The HDHR doesn't require an internet connection. But you DO need a way to get the "guide info". (I was considering cutting my broadband internet to save $$$. You can connect the HDHR to your PC's network port directly, no crossover cable needed.) Then use dial-up for the guide updates.

#4 - VERY reliable unit. Great software. The only thing that would/could make it better is if the next generation HDHR had tru2way support!

Also, if you want to pick one up, get on Newegg's mailing list. They put them on sale from time to time for $139 with free shipping!

New HD channels on here in Auburn. MGM HD, TCM HD... nice.

Beginning tomorrow (*the press release was July 20) the new programming will be available to residential homes and businesses in the following communities:

Everett, Brier, Clearview, Lynnwood, Mill Creek, Mountlake Terrace, Mukilteo, Black Diamond, Covington, Enumclaw, Maple Valley, Pacific, Bonney Lake, Buckley, Carbonado, Eatonville, Graham, Orting, Roy, South Prairie, Wilkeson, Algona, Auburn, Burien, Federal Way, Kent, SeaTac, Tukwila,, Edgewood, Fort Lewis, McChord AFB, Parkland, Puyallup, Sumner, Vashon Island, Arlington, Beverly Lane, Goldbar, Granite Falls, Lake Stevens, Marysville, Monroe, Silver Lake, Snohomish,, Startup, Sultan, Woodscreek, Centralia, Chehalis, Lacey, Lewis County, Mason County, Olympia, Rainier, Rochester, Shelton, Tenino, Thurston County, Tumwater and Yelm.

Just my luck - the communities surrounding mine get the update, but we don't. :(

New HD channels on here in Auburn. MGM HD, TCM HD... nice.

I was down in Auburn on Monday for a while and checked out the channels at my parents' house. It was painful coming home to Seattle and not getting any of the new channels.

Just my luck - the communities surrounding mine get the update, but we don't. :(

Don't feel too bad, I'm in one of the listed communities (Kent) and I don't have the update, either.:mad: I still have Palladia on 661, so don't expect that I'll see the new channels any time soon.:mad::mad:

Don't feel too bad, I'm in one of the listed communities (Kent) and I don't have the update, either.:mad: I still have Palladia on 661, so don't expect that I'll see the new channels any time soon.:mad::mad:

OK...I don't feel so bad now.

Olympia has all the new HD channels now.

Does everyone so far like the new DCX3400 DVR? I heard it has a different remote, how does it compare to the old one? Is it as programmable/hackable?

Is the only real difference between the DCX3400 and the old DVR the size of the hard drive?

Watched Daily Show on the HD signal last night. Even though it's not filmed in HD, the difference was staggering. Also, I noted that Comedy Central HD broadcasts a half-hour earlier... weird.

Olympia has all the new HD channels now.

Watched Daily Show on the HD signal last night. Even though it's not filmed in HD, the difference was staggering. Also, I noted that Comedy Central HD broadcasts a half-hour earlier... weird.

I also watched the Daily Show at 8PM on 704 and it is on east coast time. Thus, channel 60 aired that show at 11PM.
sam

I also watched the Daily Show at 8PM on 704 and it is on east coast time. Thus, channel 60 aired that show at 11PM.
samA majority of the HD channels are east coast feeds. Of course, unless you're watching Starz, HBO, etc.

I get the guide information; however, when I go to watch those channels (especially comedy central) nothing shows up, just a blank screen.

From what I have seen TiVo includes the channels in the lineup if anyone in your same zip code gets the channels, they don't distinguish as much as the cable company does with the specific guide information per customer.

Or you may need to have the card validated and/or paired again. A quick call either way should clear it up.

cm

Does everyone so far like the new DCX3400 DVR? I heard it has a different remote, how does it compare to the old one? Is it as programmable/hackable?

Is the only real difference between the DCX3400 and the old DVR the size of the hard drive?

I like it, traded in my 6412 for one. Big difference in the drive space (more than double now that it's at 250 gb). Smaller footprint on the shelf, black case, but the time display is now my new nightlight. If you have trouble sleeping having this in the bedroom will not help.

The remote is one of the new energy-effecient ones so they won't work on the older boxes, and the old remote did not work on the new box right away but then started working randomly. I guess the boxes are backwards compatible that way. Can't program the 30-second skip either that I have seen, it may be a different code now.

<<snip>> Can't program the 30-second skip either that I have seen, it may be a different code now.

That would be a deal breaker for me. On another site there was a post from someone who thinks the 30sec skip can be programmed by the following:

"I have not tested this, nor even see the remote or DX converters, but I'm told this works with

the new Moto DX remotes (YMMV):

1) Select Aux
2) Hold setup 2 flashes
3) type 01376 2 flashes

1) Select Aux button
2) Hold SETUP, 2 flashes
3) Type 994, 2 flashes
4) Tap SETUP
4) Enter the 00173
5) Tap the button to be programmed, 2 flashes"

If anyone gives this try and it works, I'm off to see if I can get one of these puppies.

Looks like I lost all the analog over 30 today in Sammamish, and Pastiche's list is out of date...help!

Looks like I lost all the analog over 30 today in Sammamish, and Pastiche's list is out of date...help!

Unfortunately, I can't really do anything to update it right now, becuase I'm in the city, and we're still on the old lineup in its entirety. Sorry. :(

Here's what I do know, change-wise: the "expanded basic" MUXes seem to be duplicated on 34-X (from 91), 35-X (from 92), 36-X (from 102), 37-X (from 103), and 38-X (from 116.)

I would suggest keeping an eye on the HDHR support site at http://www.silicondust.com and clicking on "Resources", then "TV Channels". The channel labels and virtual channels entered tend not to be entirely accurate, BUT the transport channels "are what they are", and you can often properly identify a channel by the adjacent screen captures.

1. What is the cheapest package called if you in order to get the local channels in high def + Basic Cable (in SD)?

2. What is the cost per month of the Comcast DVR that allows you to record on the 250GB recorder?

...
Here's what I do know, change-wise: the "expanded basic" MUXes seem to be duplicated on 34-X (from 91), 35-X (from 92), 36-X (from 102), 37-X (from 103), and 38-X (from 116.)
...

That is consistent with what I have found ...and maybe when we get back from vacation in a week, there will be more hi-def, as one of our TVs has a cable card

1. What is the cheapest package called if you in order to get the local channels in high def + Basic Cable (in SD)?

2. What is the cost per month of the Comcast DVR that allows you to record on the 250GB recorder?
If you do not have a QAM tuner on your tv, then Digital Starter with an HD non-dvr box is required. Otherwise, it would be basic cable (I think.)

I have no idea about the rental cost of the 250GB dvr.
sam

If you do not have a QAM tuner on your tv, then Digital Starter with an HD non-dvr box is required. Otherwise, it would be basic cable (I think.)

Hmm. Does this mean that if I have a QAM tuner (such as HDHomerun) I can lower my cable bill? Do you know whether that will work to pick up VOD?

Anyone know whether the DCX3400 will be reserved for customers with an HD-DVR service ($15.95 per month)? As I understand it, there is a DVR service that only records in SD for $8.95 per month that only records about 60 hours.

Hmm. Does this mean that if I have a QAM tuner (such as HDHomerun) I can lower my cable bill? Do you know whether that will work to pick up VOD?

Anyone know whether the DCX3400 will be reserved for customers with an HD-DVR service ($15.95 per month)? As I understand it, there is a DVR service that only records in SD for $8.95 per month that only records about 60 hours.

No VOD with QAM tuner only.

Is there any way to hook up a harddrive for extra storage capacity to a Comcast DVR box?

I use a TiVo HD with a cable card. I cannot order a VOD program via the TiVo, but have been told (from Comcast), that I can order by phone and then watch on the program on the inDemand 800's... never tried it though.

Waiting for tru2way... someday....

Is there any way to hook up a harddrive for extra storage capacity to a Comcast DVR box?

No (for Motorola). Yes, eSATA, for Scientific Atlanta (but that's merely academic for this area).

Lost the analog signal for all channels 30+ in Bellevue today.

Lost the analog signal for all channels 30+ in Bellevue today.They've been gone for a few days in Sammamish.

The countdown is on to receive a ton of additional HD. Out in the suburbs, we should be around 100 linear HD channels sometime next week. Comcast's public notice posting said the additional channels are coming on or after August 5 (next Wednesday). Cross your fingers that Comcast flips the switch on Wednesday.

They've been gone for a few days in Sammamish.

The countdown is on to receive a ton of additional HD. Out in the suburbs, we should be around 100 linear HD channels sometime next week. Comcast's public notice posting said the additional channels are coming on or after August 5 (next Wednesday). Cross your fingers that Comcast flips the switch on Wednesday.

Not all Eastside suburbs are being converted yet. Just checking this morning in east Woodinville, analog channels missing 25, 50, 61, 69, 71, 72, 73, 74, 79, 96, 97, 98. A CSR a few weeks ago said conversion would start second week in August here.

That would be a deal breaker for me. On another site there was a post from someone who thinks the 30sec skip can be programmed by the following:

"I have not tested this, nor even see the remote or DX converters, but I'm told this works with

the new Moto DX remotes (YMMV):

1) Select Aux
2) Hold setup 2 flashes
3) type 01376 2 flashes

1) Select Aux button
2) Hold SETUP, 2 flashes
3) Type 994, 2 flashes
4) Tap SETUP
4) Enter the 00173
5) Tap the button to be programmed, 2 flashes"

If anyone gives this try and it works, I'm off to see if I can get one of these puppies.

This worked! Of course, that means that I have to remember to press AUX instead of CABLE on the remote, but it seems like all DVR functions work on the AUX button now.

The CABLE code in this remote is 01982. I tried unlocking the id (same instructions as part 1 above but use CABLE and code 982), change to the 00173 or any other code for motorola and none worked. As long as I stay in AUX mode I seem to have full control.

I have no idea about the rental cost of the 250GB dvr.
sam

Comcast doesn't seem to charge different prices for each HD-DVR. You subscribe to DVR, and you can get a 120Gb, 160Gb, or the 250Gb hard drive. If you want the largest and HDMI, you will need to ask, but they have what they have in stock at the time.

Cost is $15.95 per month.

cm

This worked! Of course, that means that I have to remember to press AUX instead of CABLE on the remote, but it seems like all DVR functions work on the AUX button now.

The CABLE code in this remote is 01982. I tried unlocking the id (same instructions as part 1 above but use CABLE and code 982), change to the 00173 or any other code for motorola and none worked. As long as I stay in AUX mode I seem to have full control.
Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to Comcast I go.

I know, doesn' t really work but I'm happy!!! Thanks for letting me (us) know! Gonna try and snag one of these puppies. I have a Universal remote so I don't plan on using the Comcast remote anyway. Need it only to set up a 30sec skip.

Comcast doesn't seem to charge different prices for each HD-DVR. You subscribe to DVR, and you can get a 120Gb, 160Gb, or the 250Gb hard drive. If you want the largest and HDMI, you will need to ask, but they have what they have in stock at the time.

Cost is $15.95 per month.

cm

CM, I recognize that comcast does not charge differently for HD-DVR; the charge is currently $15.95 per month. I get that. My question was whether one could get the 250GB box for the SD DVR service, which is $8.95 per month.

I am more interested in recording in Standard Definition because the box does not fill as fast.

CM, I recognize that comcast does not charge differently for HD-DVR; the charge is currently $15.95 per month. I get that. My question was whether one could get the 250GB box for the SD DVR service, which is $8.95 per month.

I am more interested in recording in Standard Definition because the box does not fill as fast.It's an HD DVR. If you get one, by definition you have HD service.

CM, I recognize that comcast does not charge differently for HD-DVR; the charge is currently $15.95 per month. I get that. My question was whether one could get the 250GB box for the SD DVR service, which is $8.95 per month.

I am more interested in recording in Standard Definition because the box does not fill as fast.

You will not get the 250GB box for the SD-DVR $8.95. However, if the extra $7 a month is worth over triple the storage space then go for it (80 GB storage on the Pace SD-DVR is the only option with the lower price).

I record mostly SD since a lot of what I watch is not broadcast on HD and I hate the black bars. Most of the HD I watch is On Demand. The last I checked I have about 60 hours recorded and less than 40% of the DVR is full. Now, the question is when am I ever going to watch it all?!?

cm

When Comcast struck a deal with ESPN on carriage of ESPNU, they also announced the Comcast internet subscribers would get free access to ESPN360.com. That access is now available. You can watch live and recorded sporting events streaming on-line. The Yankees-Rays game is currently available live. There are a lot of soccer games availabe for replay right now.

When Comcast struck a deal with ESPN on carriage of ESPNU, they also announced the Comcast internet subscribers would get free access to ESPN360.com. That access is now available. You can watch live and recorded sporting events streaming on-line. The Yankees-Rays game is currently available live. There are a lot of soccer games availabe for replay right now.

sweet. I've been waiting for this. Wish they had it during wimbledon.

I have the DCX3400. But I think these questions go for any Comcast DVR:

1. Is there a way to skip commercials (other than the FF button with is klunky)? What button do you use or can you program, and how?

2. Is there a 1-button way to erase a recording?

3. Is there a way to mark or divide a place in a recording? Most DVR software has a way to "chapter" or mark places in a recording.

I have the DCX3400. But I think these questions go for any Comcast DVR:

1. Is there a way to skip commercials (other than the FF button with is klunky)? What button do you use or can you program, and how?

2. Is there a 1-button way to erase a recording?

3. Is there a way to mark or divide a place in a recording? Most DVR software has a way to "chapter" or mark places in a recording.

1. 30-second skip. May require different implementation with your remote.
2. I hope not. I suppose it depends on whether you've already used other button pushes to get to the point where one more will do it.
3. No.

I refer you to the Wikibook:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR

When Comcast struck a deal with ESPN on carriage of ESPNU, they also announced the Comcast internet subscribers would get free access to ESPN360.com. That access is now available. You can watch live and recorded sporting events streaming on-line. The Yankees-Rays game is currently available live. There are a lot of soccer games availabe for replay right now.

Just tried it from Queen Anne. Says it's not available. I also did a zip search for 98109 and it said the service is not available. Sigh. I'm glad that people outside the downtown area have gotten so many wonderful HD upgrades and this so far in 2009--somehow us in the city are always getting screwed with endless delays.

ESPN360 is working for me in Wallingford!!!!!!!!!!!!!

360 is not working for me either yet in Snohomish County. I do see the "Powered by Comcast" logo. The email I got said it started 8/4 so they may be in the process of adding the 17 million users. The address given in the email was www.comcast.net/360 (http://www.comcast.net/360) which just redirects to their Sports page now.

Edit: I tried registering with the site www.espn360.com and that worked ...

1. 30-second skip. May require different implementation with your remote.
2. I hope not. I suppose it depends on whether you've already used other button pushes to get to the point where one more will do it.
3. No.

I refer you to the Wikibook:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR

1. Thanks.

2. This seems really clunky. Many other DVR software applications have the ability to click to delete, for example, what you are watching/have watched. Typically, there is then a warning screen that allows you to then delete. The Comcast software forces you to click out, click to what you want to delete, go to record, scroll to delete, and then (FINALLY) delete.

3. It is also quite embarrassing for Comcast that you cannot mark/subdivide/chapter a portion of what you have recorded and then delete subchapters that you don't want to keep. For example, I may not want to keep all of Leno's monologue, tu I may want to keep the portion I thought was really funny and delete other subchapters. Or, I may want to mark portions of a recording so that I can later quickly skip to those for later viewing. For example, if Fox Sports Northwest rebroadcasts the last game of the division championship series from 1995, I may just want to watch again the part where Jack McDowell gives up a double to Edgard and Junior races from 1st to home to score the winning run.

Has anyone tried to get one of the DCX boxes in Redmond? My DCH-3416 doesn't have too much stuff on it right now, so I thought this might be a good time to swap it out for one of the new DCX's with the 250 GB hard drive. The Redmond Comcast office is the closest one for me and I thought I'd see if others have tried going to Redmond to swap out their older DVR for a DCX box.

I have the DCX3400. But I think these questions go for any Comcast DVR:

1. Is there a way to skip commercials (other than the FF button with is klunky)? What button do you use or can you program, and how?

<<snip>>. Go back one page and look for my post. Tells you how to program a 30sec skip which has been verified to work by one other member.

Since I have my DVR on top of my television, I don't like to be distracted by the LED display. Prior to the DCH series, I stuck a piece of dark cellophane over the time/channel display. The DCH series seemed to be less bright and nondistracting.

What's up with the DCX? Is is really that much brighter than the DCH?

Thanks.

PS: Also wondering which local offices are carrying the 250gb model.

This is getting old... got a message that LIFE-HD is now LIFEP-HD... but not for me in Lake City, 98125.

I keep checking..... someday..... maybe..... hopefully.... come on Comcast....

Since I have my DVR on top of my television, I don't like to be distracted by the LED display. Prior to the DCH series, I stuck a piece of dark cellophane over the time/channel display. The DCH series seemed to be less bright and nondistracting.

What's up with the DCX? Is is really that much brighter than the DCH?


Be thankful that it has any time/channel display at all! The Motorola DCX3200 - the DVR-less HD-STB that I was given earlier this month doesn't have any display at all... We have to find the remote and cycle through the "info" button key presses just to see what channel the thing is tuned to. The lack of any on-box display is becomming an increasingly inconcenient annoyance with each passing day I have the thing... All to save Comcast, what? Probably no more than fifty cents in unit cost for the box for which they're charging me $6.95/month... Sigh...

This morning I noticed that my Channel 661 is gone. For the past couple weeks it simply said that Palladia moved to 685. I thought they'd keep the message there until they filled 661 with a replacement (msnbc?). Didn't expect 661 to go away altogether.

This is getting old... got a message that LIFE-HD is now LIFEP-HD... but not for me in Lake City, 98125.

I keep checking..... someday..... maybe..... hopefully.... come on Comcast....

Haven't you heard? The phrase, "You get what you pay for" had been officially changed. It's now, "Others get what they pay for, you pay Comcast what Comcast says and get what Comcast gives you." :mad:

I picked up the DCX, seems to fill up pretty fast. Is there somewhere on the unit I can look to verify that it actually has the larger hard drive?

And the display is ridiculously bright.

Also, I'm using the old remote that came with my DCH. The 30 second skip I programmed into that is workly perfectly. I still havent perfected the 30 sec skip on the new remote.

The 30-second commercial skip sequence works described in other posts works for at least the new remotes.

This leaves the inability to mark or chapter recordings as the remaining drawback of the Comcast DVR boxes for me.

Has anyone tried to get one of the DCX boxes in Redmond?

I got one on Wednesday from Redmond. The woman said she had "one more" and gave to me. She might have had 100 more, and her statement that she had "one more" would have still be true.

Is there a 1-button way to erase a recording?2. I hope not. I suppose it depends on whether you've already used other button pushes to get to the point where one more will do it.


2. This seems really clunky. Many other DVR software applications have the ability to click to delete, for example, what you are watching/have watched. Typically, there is then a warning screen that allows you to then delete. The Comcast software forces you to click out, click to what you want to delete, go to record, scroll to delete, and then (FINALLY) delete.

Solved: reduces the clunky delete sequence to 2 clicks. The white down arrow (not the page down arrow, which is 5-minute skip back) when you are in a recording gives you a delete option.

I have the DCX3400. But I think these questions go for any Comcast DVR:

1. Is there a way to skip commercials (other than the FF button with is klunky)? What button do you use or can you program, and how?

2. Is there a 1-button way to erase a recording?

3. Is there a way to mark or divide a place in a recording? Most DVR software has a way to "chapter" or mark places in a recording.Here's how to program a button to do the 30-second skip with the remote for the DCX-3400.

1) Select AUX
2) Hold SETUP 2 flashes
3) Type 01376 2 flashes

1) Select AUX
2) Hold SETUP, 2 flashes
3) Type 994, 2 flashes
4) Tap SETUP
4) Type 00173
5) Tap CABLE
6) Tap the button to be programmed, 2 flashes
After this is complete, go back and set AUX back to your usual auxiliary device code.

Just swapped out my DCH-3416 for a DCX-3425 at the Redmond Comcast Cable Store. The guy at the store warned me that people have complained that if you go a few minutes without hitting a button on the remote that the only way that you can turn off the box is to unplug it. I have not read anything like that on any of the forums, so I am inclined to disbelieve him.

Setup went fine. Interestingly, when the guide began to populate, it showed me all of the new channels that we are supposed to be getting on Wednesday (i.e. CBC-HD, NHL-HD, etc.). When I tuned to any of the new channels, I got the "this channel should be available shortly message". As the guide began to populate further, all of the new channels disappeared. Hopefully they return with viewable content on Wednesday.

So far the only glitch with the new box is that when I go to the menu and click for "Interactive TV", I get a "Application Unavailable. We're sorry. That application is not currently unavailable. Please try back later. Ref code ETC-1000." I was hoping to activate the CallerID on TV feature on the new box. That feature worked on the DCH and I quite liked it.

The new remote looks just like the old one, except that it's gray. Programming the 30-second skip to one of the buttons is slightly different (see prior post). The remote seems to function identically.

I did not need to re-program my Harmony remote to work with the DCX box. The codes for the old DCH worked just fine.

Hi guys. I posted this in another tread, but it looks like this is the more popular place for DCX-3400 entries. I'm in Renton and picked one of these up at the Auburn store last Friday.

I have it hooked up to a 1080p Samsung plasma and I've configured the HD-DVR to output 16x9/1080i and "stretch" for the 4x3 overide (note I only enabled this setting because I'm still breaking in my new plasma). What I'm seeing is that at least 2 or 3 times a day the box is reverting back to the default settings of 4x3,480p and 4x3 overide turned off. Has anyone else seen this?

Hi guys. I posted this in another tread, but it looks like this is the more popular place for DCX-3400 entries. I'm in Renton and picked one of these up at the Auburn store last Friday.

I have it hooked up to a 1080p Samsung plasma and I've configured the HD-DVR to output 16x9/1080i and "stretch" for the 4x3 overide (note I only enabled this setting because I'm still breaking in my new plasma). What I'm seeing is that at least 2 or 3 times a day the box is reverting back to the default settings of 4x3,480p and 4x3 overide turned off. Has anyone else seen this?

I have had this happen with the older motorola box, my onkyo receiver and my TV. What would happen is that I would turn my TV off while the receiver and cable box stayed on. I think this broke the handshaking and caused to the box to revert to lower quality when the TV came back on.

I have had this happen with the older motorola box, my onkyo receiver and my TV. What would happen is that I would turn my TV off while the receiver and cable box stayed on. I think this broke the handshaking and caused to the box to revert to lower quality when the TV came back on.
Hmmm. I have an onkyo receiver as well, but it does not support HDMI. Rather, the TV is connected directly to the motorola box via HDMI. Also, I'm pretty sure this isn't just happening when the TV is powered off and on. I've seen it happen if we're watching TV for a few hours. The way I discover it is the guide is normally in a 4x3 frame, but then I'll notice that when I bring the guide back up later, it will take up the whole 16x9 frame. It's definitely a strange issue.

Hi guys. I posted this in another tread, but it looks like this is the more popular place for DCX-3400 entries. I'm in Renton and picked one of these up at the Auburn store last Friday.

I have it hooked up to a 1080p Samsung plasma and I've configured the HD-DVR to output 16x9/1080i and "stretch" for the 4x3 overide (note I only enabled this setting because I'm still breaking in my new plasma). What I'm seeing is that at least 2 or 3 times a day the box is reverting back to the default settings of 4x3,480p and 4x3 overide turned off. Has anyone else seen this?

My satellite box used to do this. DirecTV fixed it in a firmware upgrade but that aside, I solved it by sticking the box on a UPS. Seems that any little glitch in the power would yield this result.

Just swapped out my DCH-3416 for a DCX-3425 at the Redmond Comcast Cable Store. The guy at the store warned me that people have complained that if you go a few minutes without hitting a button on the remote that the only way that you can turn off the box is to unplug it. I have not read anything like that on any of the forums, so I am inclined to disbelieve him.
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So far the only glitch with the new box is that when I go to the menu and click for "Interactive TV", I get a "Application Unavailable. We're sorry. That application is not currently unavailable. Please try back later. Ref code ETC-1000." I was hoping to activate the CallerID on TV feature on the new box. That feature worked on the DCH and I quite liked it.

I go several hours without pressing a button and my DCX works fine. Granted, I don't power off the unit often and just leave it on ... The CallerID feature seems to be the very last to load after the guide and I've heard can take up to 48 hours on a new box. It is working on mine (just called myself to make sure).

cm

Solved: reduces the clunky delete sequence to 2 clicks. The white down arrow (not the page down arrow, which is 5-minute skip back) when you are in a recording gives you a delete option.

Pressing the stop button does the same as the down arrow. The "X" option to delete should be there too. If you stop within the last two minutes of the recording you get an automatic Delete/Don't Delete dialog. Sounds like you were pressing Exit before?

I go several hours without pressing a button and my DCX works fine. Granted, I don't power off the unit often and just leave it on ... The CallerID feature seems to be the very last to load after the guide and I've heard can take up to 48 hours on a new box. It is working on mine (just called myself to make sure).

cmThe caller ID feature began working after about six hours. Everything else has worked just fine. As I said in my original post, I found it hard to believe the story of the box refusing to turn off. Somebody would have posted about that by now if that was a common problem.

The option to pass through the native signal is kind of interesting. With the old boxes, I have always had the output set to 1080i. I am now using the native signal option. So far I have not noticed a difference watching ESPN, FSN, etc. in 720p, but I haven't had the box long or watched much sports yet. With an old RPTV like mine, it may not make much difference anyway.

I thought that NFL Network was moving from the sports entertainment package to the basic lineup? Shouldn't this have happened by Aug 1st?

I thought that was the rumor, too. With all the Seahawks talk on the radio the past couple of days, I'm in the mood to watch some NFL Network.

I thought that NFL Network was moving from the sports entertainment package to the basic lineup? Shouldn't this have happened by Aug 1st?NFL Network was supposed to move to Digital Classic of August 1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16489134#post16489134). Apparently it is not part of Digital Starter. I have Digital Premier, which includes the Sports pack, so I can't tell if it moved or not.

I don't have Digital Starter (forget what they call what I have now), but the NFL Network is still blocked in my house as of last night.

The option to pass through the native signal is kind of interesting. With the old boxes, I have always had the output set to 1080i. I am now using the native signal option. So far I have not noticed a difference watching ESPN, FSN, etc. in 720p, but I haven't had the box long or watched much sports yet. With an old RPTV like mine, it may not make much difference anyway.

After some trial with the native pass-through, I found it less than ideal. Between the box and the tv switching resolutions (720p to 1080i to 480i etc) when I was changing channels it would take several seconds and flashes of blue with "No Signal" message on my tv before I got a picture. Gave me a headache! That option will be useful when any broadcasters use 1080p, then the box will pass it to the tv. The box won't convert up to 1080p, but will pass it through if available. Honestly my eyes don't see much of a difference if I have the box set to 720p or 1080i.

I thought that NFL Network was moving from the sports entertainment package to the basic lineup? Shouldn't this have happened by Aug 1st?NFL-HD and NHL-HD just turned up today on digital classic in Portland - see below:

Good afternoon:

I noticed today that the NFLHD and NHLHD was available on my cable package today (Digital classic with HD). Also ESPNU is now available in standard definition on channel 411. It has not shown up as an HD channel yet. Just wanted to pass the word.If Portland got it today, it's a good bet that we'll see it shortly.

Just checked. It's on in Auburn! Yay!

Just checked. It's on in Auburn! Yay!

Checked again when I got home from work and it's ON here! :D Just in time for preseason!

Sammamish with Digital Preferred, Digital Classic
- now have NFL Network (sweet). Precise channels are

180 - NFL Network (yes)
417 - NFL Network (yes)
418 - NFL HD (yes)
621 - NFL HD (no)

All of the new HD channels were live in Sammamish this morning. By my count, we are at a total of 100 now, not including ExtraInnings HD, etc. (although I did count QVC).

Very cool to see CBC-HD!

so does comcast now have more hd channels than fios?

so does comcast now have more hd channels than fios?

If so, it would seem only to be the case in places where they have to compete with fios... In the meantime, here in Seattle...

If so, it would seem only to be the case in places where they have to compete with fios... In the meantime, here in Seattle...Comcast is not competing with FiOS in most of the areas where they have completed the digital upgrade. FiOS is only available in portions of Verizon's service area, which is primarily north of Seattle (http://www.wutc.wa.gov/webdocs.nsf/0/2cc6eaebe1019fe08825716900538f4c/$FILE/TelecomExchangeMap11x17.pdf), yet the upgrade is largely complete south of Seattle.

In many Verizon service areas (e.g. north Sammamish, where I live) FiOS is not offered and, now that Verizon has sold its territory in Washington, it is unlikely FiOS will ever be offered in these areas.

I don't know how Comcast chose to prioritize the analog reclamation or why the City of Seattle is last (or nearly last) to get upgraded, but Verizon's footprint doesn't appear to have been the big driver.

so does comcast now have more hd channels than fios?Verizon has a few more HDTV channels than Comcast, but the gap is now very small. Verizon's web site shows 122 HD channels, but that includes Pay-per view, ExtraInnings/CenterIce, etc. Verizon also provides both the east coast and west coast feeds of many premium channels (HBO etc), which are of little value if you have an HD-DVR and can time-shift anyway.


The main pluses that I can see for FiOS' HD line-up are HDNet, HDNet Movies, WGN, and YES (Yankees). They also have a half-dozen .TV channels that are pretty obscure.

The big pluses for Comast's HD line-up are AMC-HD (Mad Men, etc.), CBUT-HD, IFC, CBS college sports, and MSNBC. For me personally, CBUT-HD and AMC-HD are important enough that I wouldn't switch to FiOS even if it were available in my area. I am sure that for others, they would prefer the FiOS line-up.

You can compare the national line-ups at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1058081. I have also attached Verizon's local line-up.

CNBC and Fox Business in HD are quite the visual treat, especially for Market junkies

I was hoping I'd have my AMC-HD in time for mad men. Doesn't look like it's going to happen though. Damn Comcast.

By the way, does anyone know if FLN and DIY Networks will ever be in HD? The HGTV channel is obviously already in HD, but why wouldn't these other two great channels broadcast in HD as well??

I was hoping I'd have my AMC-HD in time for mad men. Doesn't look like it's going to happen though. Damn Comcast.

If it helps, Mad Men is available On Demand in HD. Season 2 is there now so you can watch again before season 3 airs 8/16. Go to HD On Demand, TV Series, Mad Men.

Renton-Kennydale gets the new HD channels sept 22. we are like the last. Kinda funny cause the street i live on practically every home is over a million bucks and they pay for premium services. Tons of new construction so oyu would think that they would pay attention and had us first in line. I almost bailed to satellite.

Best I can tell, I do NOT have the new HD yet in the north part of sammamish, but I have a cablecard, and not sure if I have to do some type of "re-scan"?

Best I can tell, I do NOT have the new HD yet in the north part of sammamish, but I have a cablecard, and not sure if I have to do some type of "re-scan"?

Try manually tuning a few of the new channels, to see if they're there. I preloaded a zip code (98042) that already had the channels, since I figured it might take a while for mine (98008) to get updated.

CaptMorn2374,

I have seasons 1 and 2 on Blu-Ray, so I don't need the on demand options. I wonder if they will put season 3 on demand as it airs. If they don't, I'm going to be forced to steal it.

cybernut2000,

There is still no timeframe for getting the channels in my neighborhood in seattle, so count yourself lucky you only need to wait a month and a half more.

I received a notice in the mail on 8/4 that the new HD channels would be available on 8/5. On 8/5, the new channels didn't appear. Today (8/6), I called Comcast and the CSR said I should be receiving them, so she sent a signal to my boxes and the new HD channels showed up...

Hey ark1410,

I also have a cablecard and I just had to go into my TV settings then click "Reset Cable Card" and then select something like "Channel List Re-organization"....it takes about 5 minutes, but you should see the updated channels!

They are supposed to be here today, I have Digital Preferred on Vashon Island which is on the list, but I don't see anything yet other then Palladia moved last week.

They're here in Bellevue. Might have been here for some time, but I only bothered the check today.

Does anyone else have problems with channels 703, 704, 705 and 706. These are part of the new HD channels added this moring. I live in olympia and use a Tivo. I get the guide information; however, when I go to watch those channels (especially comedy central) nothing shows up, just a blank screen.

I get the channels, but no guide information on my TivoHD in Bellevue. Of course, Tivo takes a month or two to update the schedule information when Comcast adds new channels.

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I get the channels, but no guide information on my TivoHD in Bellevue. Of course, Tivo takes a month or two to update the schedule information when Comcast adds new channels.

I set my TiVo zip code to 98042, rather than my 98008, just for that reason.

I set my TiVo zip code to 98042, rather than my 98008, just for that reason.

Yes, I have been using 98034 instead of 98004, but I'll try 98042 and see how that works out.

Kind of annoying to have to repeat Guided Setup every time a lineup change happens. You think Tribune and Tivo would get their acts together and push out the updates within a day or two of the changes.

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Kind of annoying to have to repeat Guided Setup every time a lineup change happens. You think Tribune and Tivo would get their acts together and push out the updates within a day or two of the changes.

They never did get Fox Business HD right for 98008 -- both it and CNBC were listed as 658. (Not that it matters.)

CaptMorn2374,

I have seasons 1 and 2 on Blu-Ray, so I don't need the on demand options. I wonder if they will put season 3 on demand as it airs. If they don't, I'm going to be forced to steal it.

Season 2 episodes were up in HD via On Demand 24 hours after they aired on AMC. I'm sure they'll do the same for season 3.


There is still no timeframe for getting the channels in my neighborhood in seattle, so count yourself lucky you only need to wait a month and a half more.

Same here, I'm channel-less in Greenlake.

I read on here a few days ago that Renton is due to get the new HD channels on September 22nd? Has that been confirmed? I just called Comcast and spoke to two customer care people who had no clue what they were talking about. I was told that they could not tell me when I was get the new channels because "that information has not been released yet". Gotta love it. ;)

So which of the four options should I use when repeating Tivo Guided Setup when using the 98042 zip?

Comcast
Comcast South King County
Comcast South King County 2
Federal Way 2

I tried "Comcast" and it's the same as what I had - no guide data on the new channels.

I am trying again with "Federal Way 2" on the off chance that is the new dataset.

They're here in Bellevue. Might have been here for some time, but I only bothered the check today.



I get the channels, but no guide information on my TivoHD in Bellevue. Of course, Tivo takes a month or two to update the schedule information when Comcast adds new channels.

I don't think you can expect TiVo to monitor every change Comcast makes, especially "sub-zipcode". I've found it useful to use their report page to inform them. I never get an acknowledgement, but in at least 2 cases, I saw a message about a lineup change the next day (or even later the same day). Perhaps these were already in the pipeline, but it appears to have worked for me more than once. The latest fix was that Comcast was providing the Pacific (left coast) feed for Lifetime HD but TiVo guide was for the east coast, so recordings were 3 hours off. I complained and the lineup change came through the next day.

The URL if you don't have it is:
http://www.tivo.com/lineup
or
http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport/contactsupport/lineup_tool.html

I don't think you can expect TiVo to monitor every change Comcast makes, especially "sub-zipcode".

I don't expect it to be done in "real time", but I paid them $300 for a Tivo unit that can receive, decode and record HD content and another $300 to provide me with guide data I can use to time-shift recordings for three years (plus a monthly fee after that time).

If they can't be bothered to provide my unit with that data after weeks (to say nothing of months), then what good is the service? As craptastic as the iGuide/SARA system on the Moto boxes is, at least it updates - and in "real time", no less.

So which of the four options should I use when repeating Tivo Guided Setup when using the 98042 zip?
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I just used the "I'm not sure" option and responded to the individual channel questions.

If I plug the coax cable into a digital TV tuner card, will I get the comcast HD channels in HD or SD?

Do people have cable cards? Do they work? Where did you receive? Etc.

I read on here a few days ago that Renton is due to get the new HD channels on September 22nd? Has that been confirmed? I just called Comcast and spoke to two customer care people who had no clue what they were talking about. I was told that they could not tell me when I was get the new channels because "that information has not been released yet". Gotta love it. ;)

I got the letter in the mail saying just that, although I'm south seattle/renton. Bryn-Mawr neighborhood, to be exact.

I
If they can't be bothered to provide my unit with that data after weeks (to say nothing of months), then what good is the service? As craptastic as the iGuide/SARA system on the Moto boxes is, at least it updates - and in "real time", no less.

On the other hand, Comcast's boxes don't appear to know or care which channels you can actually receive, let alone the ones you want to see in the guide.

Anyway, Comcast does not tell TiVo when your particular neighborhood gets changed. TiVo must rely on other means to get that information. It is too bad that the cable cards aren't able to tell TiVo what has been activated.

So if you can't be bothered to tell TiVo what channels you are receiving, then you'll have to wait until someone else in your neighborhood does.

I was poking around some of the suburban zipcodes on silicondust this morning and noticed that, in addition to the expanded basic MUXes having been simulcast on 34, 35, 36, 37, and 38, that CBUT-DT is now clear on 60-2. (It couldn't find anywhere that it's properly identified on their listings, but it's always HD, always 60-2, and always has a CBC HD bug in the corner of the screen capture.) I think that other than the simulcast MUXes and 60-2, the last update I did is still more or less accurate for both the pre- and post-transition areas.

I heard that Spokane expanded basic QAM channels have been encrypted, and that ours will be when the area has been fully converted. Can anyone verify that for Spokane?

Kirkland is still not updated -- we have some of the HD channels I've heard people talking about but the latest ones like MSNBC-HD and CBC-HD are not live yet.

On the other hand, I see listings for MTV-HD and VH1-HD on 710 and 717 but they cannot actually be tuned. (Windows 7 Media Center.)

Not sure what's going on in Kirkland... but this is an area where FiOS is present and where Comcast and Verizon compete vigorously, and yet we seem to be near last for Comcast's full HD upgrade.

I heard that Spokane expanded basic QAM channels have been encrypted, and that ours will be when the area has been fully converted. Can anyone verify that for Spokane?
I'm here in Spokane. So far I'm still getting the expanded basic via QAM tuner, so no encryption yet.

I'm here in Spokane. So far I'm still getting the expanded basic via QAM tuner, so no encryption yet.

That's good.

http://www.comcast.net/mydvr

I haven't been able to get it activated yet.

Kirkland is still not updated -- we have some of the HD channels I've heard people talking about but the latest ones like MSNBC-HD and CBC-HD are not live yet.

On the other hand, I see listings for MTV-HD and VH1-HD on 710 and 717 but they cannot actually be tuned. (Windows 7 Media Center.)

Not sure what's going on in Kirkland... but this is an area where FiOS is present and where Comcast and Verizon compete vigorously, and yet we seem to be near last for Comcast's full HD upgrade.

Kirkland seems to have been near the front of the last few HD channel upgrades. I'm hoping to see MSNBC and CBC soon.

Any word when/if BBCA HD will come to Comcast?

Well I filed another channel update request through Tivo (thanks for the link, edbolson) and decided to just set my Tivo for my actual zip code of 98004.

Well it just finished Guided Setup and all the new stations are listed and have guide data. So if I'd stayed with my actual zip instead of chasing, maybe I'd have had the data all along.

Ce la vie. :)

http://www.comcast.net/mydvr

I haven't been able to get it activated yet.

I noticed that it could take 24 hours to activate. Looks similar to the new TiVo feature at www.comcast.net/tivo (http://www.comcast.net/tivo) so it may not be available in all areas. When I try I keep getting a high traffic volume error so I'll try again in the morning.

I noticed that it could take 24 hours to activate. Looks similar to the new TiVo feature at www.comcast.net/tivo (http://www.comcast.net/tivo) so it may not be available in all areas. When I try I keep getting a high traffic volume error so I'll try again in the morning.

It probably isn't available here yet. The traffic volume message sounds bogus.

I'm here in Spokane. So far I'm still getting the expanded basic via QAM tuner, so no encryption yet.

I think this may have happened today, I got some messages from my Spokane friends.

The rest of us will probably see it by the end of the year.

It probably isn't available here yet. The traffic volume message sounds bogus.

I noticed that it could take 24 hours to activate. Looks similar to the new TiVo feature at www.comcast.net/tivo (http://www.comcast.net/tivo) so it may not be available in all areas. When I try I keep getting a high traffic volume error so I'll try again in the morning.

I agree with wareagle. I get the same message, but I'm in Seattle, so maybe by 2011 it will be available (just like the channel upgrades).

I'm in spokane and I just signed up for the forum to let you guys know that I just lost a bunch of my QAM channels today. I'm using a Hauppauge 1800 digital tv card through Vista Media Center. When I noticed that a bunch of my channels weren't tuning in anymore, I did a rescan for channels and manually edited the listings like I normally do, and a bunch of them are jsut showing as being locked out now.

So I'm guessing they've been encrypted, and I'm more than a little annoyed.

Here is what I sent Comcast asking for a reply ...

feel free to chime in with oyur own thoughts!
+++++++++++++++++

I am almost certain cable companies are required to provide local broadcast
content in the least expensive product offering, for no extra charge. I
think, but am not 100% certain (can you confirm?) that this would also
include local HD content. As of today, I get about 100 channels, including
local HD, in your Digital Starter package, on my newer TV with a QAM tuner
and no DTA or other Comcast box. When you soon encrypt digital channels
over #30, I will loose either the local HD content if use your provided DTA,
or loose all channels over 30 (which I pay for) if I don't use the DTA box.
Of course you offer HD boxes, but you charge extra for them? Or will you
start providing them for free once you encrypt most of the digital channels?

Please help clarify.

Do you really expect an answer?

Do you really expect an answer?

Probably not, but arf1410 certainly won't get one unless he/she asks!

Have not gotten a complete answer yet, but here is what I have gleaned from a Comcast contact more reliable than the 1-800 #. With the price of HD equipment dropping fast, it is likely comcast will actually reduce the $6.50/ month HD charge, though not clear exactly when. Also, the one free "advanced" set-top box, which is SD and being used with our one remaining Analog tube TV, apparently, and unlike the DTA, will pass thru HD signals. What my contact is trying to confirm now is how to make use of the pass thru HD signal...I think what one would need to do, to watch the soon to be encrypted digital content, tune my HDTV to channel 3, and then change channels with the STB. To watch local HD (or any channel <30), I can simply tune the HDTV as I do today...so debately better than spending ~$85 per year for a HD box (6.50 x 12 + 9% tax). What I think comcast is specifically avoiding answering is the legal question - ie are they legally required to provide local HD content unencrypted, or just local SD ...

I'm pretty sure they are not required by law to provide local HD for free, only some form of local channels which can be SD if they want. Otherwise we'd all have HD boxes for free. You can bet they know *exactly* what they can *legally* get away with.

I'm pretty sure they are not required by law to provide local HD for free, only some form of local channels which can be SD if they want. Otherwise we'd all have HD boxes for free. You can bet they know what they can 'legally' get away with.

while your final answer might be correct, your logic is flawed. For sure they are legally required to provide local SD content on the cable, they aren't required to provide you a TV necessary to view it...HD Boxes are only necessary if tehy scramble the local HD channels, which apparently they have no plans to do ...

from comcast:

"As for encryption, the rule of thumb is anything you need to have cable
TV to watch, will be encrypted. Anything that you can get over the air
without cable will not be encrypted"

So the implication is the local HD signal will NOT be encrypted...

Anyone with a DTA in the Spokane area try wajo's method of using the DTA's hidden info screen that has all the QAM tuning information since the 11th to see if they can get clearQAM on a tuner card anymore? I had a really nice HTPC setup with dual HVR-1600 and an HD-PVR and since the 11th, the HVR-1600's are saying every channel is encrypted. I don't have one of those DTA boxes, but I'd be more then willing to get one to get the channel listings working again on my HVR-1600.

The expanded basic channels were encrypted before DTAs were around. When they started to be used those channels were no longer encrypted, which I think was a temporary solution to the privacy mode on the DTA. Any channel that is part of the most basic tier (Limited) will be in the clear. Anything on a higher tier will be encrypted otherwise those with just Limited will also get the digital channel without paying for it.

I'd be interested in any kind of a pass through, but I don't think it exists. If you have an HDTV the DTA is not a solution otherwise you miss most of the 100 or some HD channels that are or will be coming. We were required to pay the $85 a year for a lot less HD channels. I agreed to it then, I'm happier now that there are more channels. I don't expect the charge to go down. While the newer boxes are supposed to be cost-effective, the cost of doing business is about the same and the cable company needs to buy more boxes for everyone's new HDTVs and replace boxes as they go bad.

The other option, buy something that accepts a cablecard and get a card from the cable company. If its your first piece of equipment leased then there is no charge. If it's not then there is going to be a digital access fee.

I got the letter in the mail saying just that, although I'm south seattle/renton. Bryn-Mawr neighborhood, to be exact.

A form letter from Comcast came today in the mail reminding me to get DTA's if I want to be able to see channels above 30 starting September 28th. I already have the two DTA's. Hopefully the extra HD channels will come up shortly thereafter, if not then. I live between Woodinville and Duvall in unincorporated King County, area WA0150.

A form letter from Comcast came today in the mail reminding me to get DTA's if I want to be able to see channels above 30 starting September 28th. I already have the two DTA's. Hopefully the extra HD channels will come up shortly thereafter, if not then. I live between Woodinville and Duvall in unincorporated King County, area WA0150.You will get the extra HD channels about six weeks after the first cut of analog channels is made.

Anyone else getting tired of all the Comcastic ads for Triple Play for $99/Mo for a year or two AND a free Dell Netbook? And we're not eligible ... new customers only...
How long do you have to be away from Comcast to be considered a new customer?

Spokane reporting again. I've lost most of the channels using my QAM tuner, but still have a few. I'm still getting History International, Disney, FMC, Discovery, and a few others, along with the broadcast channels and their sub-channels. This stinks because that TV doesn't get used very often and I don't want to pay for a box for it. I've already have two HD-DVR boxes and the two free DTA's. I guess it's going to be broadcast stations only for that thing from now on.

Got a letter from Comcast today and it said that they had audited my account and found equipment on my account with no monthly lease fee, and they correctly identified 1 basic set top box, and 1 cable card. They state then that adjustments (but not retro-active) would be made to future bills. Comcast proceeds to list the monthly fees for all their equipment, not simply what I have...By both the STB and cable card, it states "first one included in digital cable package", for teh Cable card, it only lists a charge of $1.60 after the "cable cards for multiple cable card device"...then by every line, there is an asterick leading to the footnote "additional equipment(...)for outlets beyond the first, also require a Digital Additional Outlet Service Fee of $5.10"

So who can guess what my charges will be?

So who can guess what my charges will be?

I got a similar letter. My guess is that they will try to sock us for an Digital Additional Outlet Fee for the CableCARD. If that's the case I'll return my set-top box and then my TiVo's CableCARD will be no extra charge (included with the digital cable).

I don't use the set-top box that much. It's on the same TV as the TiVo so only occasionally for On-Demand. It's their loss really since I won't be able to do PPV with them anymore.

Interestingly they did not list my 2 DTA boxes, which were provided for free...But could they try to charge the $5.10 x 2 for the Additional Digital Outlet fee?

I am also thinking of returning the basic STB if I end up getting charged more than an extra $1.60 per month...however I though I heard that with digital cable, your are REQUIRED to have at least one STB...

I am also thinking of returning the basic STB if I end up getting charged more than an extra $1.60 per month...however I though I heard that with digital cable, your are REQUIRED to have at least one STB...

Well that makes sense as the cable channels are (or soon will be) digital and possibly encrypted so you need some type of device (STB, CableCard, DTA) to receive and display them.

I got a similar letter. My guess is that they will try to sock us for an Digital Additional Outlet Fee for the CableCARD. Same, here - but six months ago. They added the CC & DO fee along side the HD-DVR charges.

I continue to be amazed that as their customer base replaces analog TV's with digital ones, Comcast will charge an extra 11.50 (6.40 box & 5.10 outlet) for each of the the new sets.

My new, $200 kitchen HDTV will now cost $138 per year to function as well as the analog it replaced. Sure, a DTA (Digital To Analog adaptor?) is 'free' for now, but it keeps me from using it as a digital set or for HD channels....

When it come to encryption of 'Digital Starter', as a 'Premier' customer, I feel that I am being punished because of the Internet-only or Limited cable customers who otherwise could watch something they don't pay for.

I will leave Comcast as soon as I have the option.

Well that makes sense as the cable channels are (or soon will be) digital and possibly encrypted so you need some type of device (STB, CableCard, DTA) to receive and display them.


I should have been more clear - I thought I heard you must have at least one of the "full feature" STBs - you cannot use ONLY a cablecard or DTAs

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My new, $200 kitchen HDTV will now cost $138 per year to function as well as the analog it replaced. Sure, a DTA (Digital To Analog adaptor?) is 'free' for now, but it keeps me from using it as a digital set or for HD channels....
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you could just plug it directly into the wall and get all channels under 30, including local HD

I should have been more clear - I thought I heard you must have at least one of the "full feature" STBs - you cannot use ONLY a cablecard or DTAs

I would think a CC would be sufficient, but then maybe they want the STB installed in the hope it will generate paid OnDemand revenue (since a CC can evidently receive PPV broadcasts, though you must order them over the phone).

I should have been more clear - I thought I heard you must have at least one of the "full feature" STBs - you cannot use ONLY a cablecard or DTAs

The cost of one STB is included in the monthly digital outlet fee, but you can get one free cablecard in lieu of the STB.

The cost of one STB is included in the monthly digital outlet fee, but you can get one free cablecard in lieu of the STB.

cost is included in the "monthly digital outlet fee" which is $5.10, or included in the cost of basic digital service?

Also, I was told at the Comcast office in Redmond that I could only take the DTA boxes if I also took the STB. It is possible they did not know at the time that I already had a CC...So if I am not allowed one free STB AND one free CC (or $1.60 OK), I will return the STB and use a free DTA in its place on my one non HD TV...

cost is included in the "monthly digital outlet fee" which is $5.10, or included in the cost of basic digital service?

Also, I was told at the Comcast office in Redmond that I could only take the DTA boxes if I also took the STB. It is possible they did not know at the time that I already had a CC...So if I am not allowed one free STB AND one free CC (or $1.60 OK), I will return the STB and use a free DTA in its place on my one non HD TV...

I believe it amounts to the same thing. It certainly would for the first one, since the initial digital outlet fee is included in the cost of the digital service. You'd be charged the same whether you took the STB or not, if you have a digital plan.

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My new, $200 kitchen HDTV will now cost $138 per year to function as well as the analog it replaced. Sure, a DTA (Digital To Analog adaptor?) is 'free' for now, but it keeps me from using it as a digital set or for HD channels....
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you could just plug it directly into the wall and get all channels under 30, including local HDYes, but with the previous set I got 2-99 without a box.

IMHO, 'Digital Starter' should remain unencrypted and customers with only Internet or Limited Cable should get a filter trap.

I object to Comcast's business policy of putting the inconvenience and cost of theft protection on the customers who are NOT stealing the signal.

cost is included in the "monthly digital outlet fee" which is $5.10, or included in the cost of basic digital service?

Also, I was told at the Comcast office in Redmond that I could only take the DTA boxes if I also took the STB. It is possible they did not know at the time that I already had a CC...So if I am not allowed one free STB AND one free CC (or $1.60 OK), I will return the STB and use a free DTA in its place on my one non HD TV...

It's pretty confusing.

Reading their (printed) Rate Card and Channel Linup brochure for Digital Starter it says: "1 Digital Set-Top Receiver, up to two DTAs and remotes, if applicable" (No mention of CableCARDS)

For Digital Additional Outlet Service it says: "Includes 1 Digital Set-Top Receiver and Remote, or CableCARD".

Right now I have digital starter w/set-top box plus a CableCARD at $1.60. I'm thinking they will change my CableCARD to an Additional Outlet for $5.10 and that should include the the CableCARD cost. So I should go from $1.60 to $5.10 for the TiVo. I'm not happy, but seems reasonable if they consider a TiVo an Additional Outlet even if it's on the same TV as the set-top box. If I can return the set-top box and use the CableCARD instead I will do that.

From reading posts here and at the TiVo Community forum the way Comcast charges on these CableCARDs is all over the map. Maybe they are trying to get it more standardized with these "account reviews".

My new, $200 kitchen HDTV will now cost $138 per year to function as well as the analog it replaced. Sure, a DTA (Digital To Analog adaptor?) is 'free' for now, but it keeps me from using it as a digital set or for HD channels....
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Perhaps, Comcast should also rent out HDTV (that has an integrated HD set top box).

:cool:

Where do people get cable cards, and how do you install them (into what?) What is the advantage over the HD-DVR box?

If I plug the coax cable into a digital TV tuner card, will I get the comcast HD channels in HD or SD?

Where do people get cable cards, and how do you install them (into what?) What is the advantage over the HD-DVR box?

If I plug the coax cable into a digital TV tuner card, will I get the comcast HD channels in HD or SD?

Cable cards are provided for a small cost (or free) by Comcast, but your TV (or possible Tivo also?) must have a slot for one. The CC provides the decrypting function of a larger STB. NOt too many TVs sold today can use them, but it seemed like they were on the verge of becoming the norm a few years ago...

I missed most of the Seahawks game last night because Tivo thpught the game was on the NFL channel. Hope that doesn't happen again!

Sorry if this is asked a million times, but does someone have the currnet channel lineup for Sammamish? The Comcast website's channel lineup list is clearly out of date. Ever since the massive HD channel add on 8/5, I've been stuggling to clean up my TiVo-HD channel settings.

I missed most of the Seahawks game last night because Tivo thpught the game was on the NFL channel. Hope that doesn't happen again!

It was on The NFL Network, but blacked out locally. NFL Network will be showing all pre-season games, so this could happen again if you haven't changed things around to the KING feed.

New HD content now available in northern Sammamish (comcast "neighborhood" 0150)

So, Mad Men's on tonight, and still no AMC-HD in Seattle. Monopolies are great.

So, Mad Men's on tonight, and still no AMC-HD in Seattle. Monopolies are great.

It was available On Demand in HD last year.

It was available On Demand in HD last year.
Does that work if you've got a CableCARD and a TiVo?

New HD content now available in northern Sammamish (comcast "neighborhood" 0150)

Also in area 0150 east of Woodinville and no extra HD channels or digital conversion

Does that work if you've got a CableCARD and a TiVo?

Certainly not.

It was on The NFL Network, but blacked out locally. NFL Network will be showing all pre-season games, so this could happen again if you haven't changed things around to the KING feed.

That's not what I saw here (Kenmore). The Seahawk game was lasted for the NFL channel but the 49ers were broadcast. When I finally started looking for it, I found it on 105 (King).

That's not what I saw here (Kenmore). The Seahawk game was lasted for the NFL channel but the 49ers were broadcast. When I finally started looking for it, I found it on 105 (King).

I see. But the Tivo will probably still "see" it as a Seahawks game in the future, as the NFL Network still have those games scheduled (even if it is replaced locally).

Had to redo TIVO guided setup in Sammamish to get all the new channels WITH guide info. Without guided setup, the new channels were added, but given odd labeling like "0 CNBCHD" and no guide data was available. Post guided setup all is well.

I just received a new bill which bills me for 2 "TiVo Series 3-cable Card"(sic) fees of $6.70, as well as, for some reason another TiVo Series 3-cable Card for $1.60! I am on the phone right now with a CSR and trying to convince her that I have 1 outlet and 2 cards. Apparently the billing system has changed to add the outlet charge to each card. Except they also have the $1.60 charge.

I think it is a coding error and there should be one card at $6.70 and 1 at $1.60, and maybe I've convinced her of that.

I am of course upset that TiVo never implemented multi stream support (1 card) in my original Series3 box!

[EDIT] Hooray, I at least convinced her (name was Janna(sp?)) to do what I proposed. I must admit that she really tried to understand the situation, looked at history of charging for TiVo's since they first came out, and also my billing history. I know I only saved about $60.00/year (before tax), but I'm already having to justify to the other half that this stuff is all necessary for our continued happiness.

I just called Comcast to see how the "account review" would affect my bill.

As suspected my CableCARD will jump from $1.60 to $5.10 which is the Digital Additional Outlet Service fee and includes one CableCARD. I have a TiVo HD so it only requires one M-card.

I asked her what would happen to my bill if I returned my set-top box. She confirmed that then the CableCARD would be no charge because it would then be included with my Digital Cable package.

As I said before, this seems reasonable to me, but takes some getting used to after using analog cable and having as many hookups as I wanted before for one flat rate. The TiVo gets me HD channels so there is an improvement over the set-top box which only does SD. I will have to decide if keeping it is worth the extra money for On-Demand. .

Anyone else on here with an HTPC? I can't seem to locate Comedy Central any more. Using a dual tuner Fusion 7 card.

Comedy Central is on 103-9 using HDHomeRun tonight.

It was available On Demand in HD last year.

I just watched Episode 1 of Season 3 of Mad Men on On Demand, and it's a joke to call that HD. Upconverted DVD's look significantly better. They are compressing the hell out of it, leading to tons of artifacts. Even my wife who never complains was mad.

I just watched Episode 1 of Season 3 of Mad Men on On Demand, and it's a joke to call that HD. Upconverted DVD's look significantly better. They are compressing the hell out of it, leading to tons of artifacts. Even my wife who never complains was mad.Do you have artifact problems with other on-demand offerings? My wife and I watched seasons one and two on-demand over the past six weeks (we had not seen the show before) and they looked great. We recorded Episode 1 of Season 3 on my DVR and it looked fine on the DVR too.

Just wondering if Comcast's "pipes" happened to be full on the day you tried to watch. Maybe you have some local bandwidth problems...

I just called Comcast to see how the "account review" would affect my bill.

As suspected my CableCARD will jump from $1.60 to $5.10 which is the Digital Additional Outlet Service fee and includes one CableCARD. I have a TiVo HD so it only requires one M-card.

I asked her what would happen to my bill if I returned my set-top box. She confirmed that then the CableCARD would be no charge because it would then be included with my Digital Cable package.

As I said before, this seems reasonable to me, but takes some getting used to after using analog cable and having as many hookups as I wanted before for one flat rate. The TiVo gets me HD channels so there is an improvement over the set-top box which only does SD. I will have to decide if keeping it is worth the extra money for On-Demand. .

Either you mis-typed, Comcast mis-spoke, the letter provided misleading info, or I'm confused! Shouldn't your fee for the cablecard have jumped from $1.60 to ($1.60 + $5.10)? Aren't we going to get charged for both the outlet AND the equipment rental, after the first one free? Also, I was told we MUST have one STB? As far as your comment about being "reasonable" - wasn't the main reason many people chose Comcast over satellite was because Comcast did not charge for outlet? With 4-5 TVs, it really adds up.

Also, is there anyway to BUY some equipment, rather than pay comcast the rental fee?

And finally, if that $5.10 monthly will be added to every outlet after the first one, wouldn't the pricing be simpler and less deceiving if it was just added to the cost of equipment rental - ie rather than $6.50 per month for box + $5.10 /month for outlet, just charge $11.60 per month for the box?

Just got my new bill (well I checked the one online) and I have to pay an extra $5.10, as previously discussed

I have 2 TivoHD's both with M-Cards.

Its confusing becuase the they dont say,
-Your first Set-top-box/cable-card device (comcast or 3rd party) outlet charge is included in Digital cable package
or better worded
-Your first TiVO outlet charge is included in Digital Cable

Their $5.10 charge on the bill doesnt mention cablecard but their letter does.

It would be slick if they would give me a TIVO (& cablecard type) specific bill, since they know I have 2 of them and no Comcast STB. Plus they know I have 2 M cards
- TiVO Multiple cableCARD $1.60
- TIVO outlet first (included) $0.00
- Tivo Multiple cableCARD $1.60
- TIVO outlet extra $5.10


I cant really complain right now as
a) I have complained in the past and they gave me some discounts which i currently enjoy
b) their letter does state the extra $5.10 for each digital outlet beyond the first.
- though I did not understand the extra charge when I first read the letter

So if I got a 3rd TV and another TivoHD, I'd pay monthly
- extra $1.60 for Multiple cablecard (assuming I got an M-Card)
- extra $5.10 for the outlet
== $6.60
plus
-small extra amount of tax
-plus a monthly fee to Tivo

On a side note, just got my samsung LN52B750 and it rocks (wish it was 55" though). Waiting for some extra long HDMI cards so I can hook up my Sony CT-500 sound-bar. Did a quick test of the sound-bar and the sound was quite good.

Anyone noticing increased internet speed in sammamish, perhaps you need the DOCSIS-3 modem to detect it. When I switched to renting their modem I tried to get this DOCSIS 3 modem but they wouldnt give that to me unless I signed up for the higher internet package

Can anyone answer this question for me?

I am going to cancel my digital cable service, and switch the cheapest package which is "Limited basic" according to the Comcast website. If I do that, and use ClearQAM, would I still get channels 31-74 since they are not encrypted?

Also, anyone know how much Limited basic costs monthly?

I am going to cancel my digital cable service, and switch the cheapest package which is "Limited basic" according to the Comcast website. If I do that, and use ClearQAM, would I still get channels 31-74 since they are not encrypted?They are currently un-encrypted, but Comcast has stated their intention is to encrypt them. I wouldn't count on this as a long-term solution...

They are currently un-encrypted, but Comcast has stated their intention is to encrypt them. I wouldn't count on this as a long-term solution...

I understand that, but do you get all the channels as of right now with Clear-QAM?

I understand that, but do you get all the channels as of right now with Clear-QAM?

As of today, yes, but comcast has clearly stated that everything above 30 will be encrypted by the end of this year, so what you propose really is a short term fix...

As of today, yes, but comcast has clearly stated that everything above 30 will be encrypted by the end of this year, so what you propose really is a short term fix...

Thanks! I know that they are going to be encrypted, but I was just trying to decide if I was going to ditch cable altogether, and go to OTA, or to do this, since I mostly watch local channels and don't watch much cable lately except for a few channels between 31-74. So now I know I can do this until the channels get encrypted, then I will cancel altogether.

BTW, Limited basic is $16.49, in case anyone else wanted to know.

Can anyone answer this question for me?

I am going to cancel my digital cable service, and switch the cheapest package which is "Limited basic" according to the Comcast website. If I do that, and use ClearQAM, would I still get channels 31-74 since they are not encrypted?
At the risk of being too strait-laced.. Yes, you will get them - but since you aren't paying for them, it is 'signal theft'. Comcast used to put a filter on the line to stop that, but now they have decided to force us to rent a box to prevent you from stealing the signal.

Thank you for confirming Comcast's decision to encrypt.

Either you mis-typed, Comcast mis-spoke, the letter provided misleading info, or I'm confused! Shouldn't your fee for the cablecard have jumped from $1.60 to ($1.60 + $5.10)? Aren't we going to get charged for both the outlet AND the equipment rental, after the first one free? Also, I was told we MUST have one STB? As far as your comment about being "reasonable" - wasn't the main reason many people chose Comcast over satellite was because Comcast did not charge for outlet? With 4-5 TVs, it really adds up.

Also, is there anyway to BUY some equipment, rather than pay comcast the rental fee?

And finally, if that $5.10 monthly will be added to every outlet after the first one, wouldn't the pricing be simpler and less deceiving if it was just added to the cost of equipment rental - ie rather than $6.50 per month for box + $5.10 /month for outlet, just charge $11.60 per month for the box?

My first question to Comcast was how the account review would change my bill and the CSR said my bill would increase by $3.50 (before taxes). This was before I asked anything else. This is my interpretation of how they charge for Digital Additional Outlet Service - meaning each includes one digital set-top box or CableCARD. I was all set to discuss the point if she said my bill would increase by $5.10 in addition to the existing $1.60 Cable CARD fee, but didn't have to.

I know that this is not what the letter clearly indicates, but charging both fees ($5.10 + $1.60) for an additional outlet contradicts their Rate Card And Channel Lineup brochure from early this year which says Digital Additional Outlet Service "includes 1 Digital Set-Top Receiver and Remote, or CableCard". This info on their Rate Card makes more sense to me because without a set-top box (or CableCARD) the additional digital outlet would not get you all the channels you are paying for. This is especially true if they eventually start encrypting everything except basic cable.

I know the CSRs are not consistant across Comcast locations, but whenever I've had a question I've always received accurate information. My opinion is that the letter has misleading info regarding this issue, but the proof will be what my bill says next month. :D

the analog shut-off, I would expect them to be encrypted again...and if I had to guess I'd say before the end of the year.

the analog shut-off, I would expect them to be encrypted again...and if I had to guess I'd say before the end of the year.

what was encrypted before the analog shut off and when? I have had comcast for 12+ years and dont remember any previous encryption - except for teh "premium" channels like HBO, etc

That's what I'm wondering. People have been able to get up to channel 99 without a box since the late 70s. As arf1410 pointed out, usually only the premiums were scrambled.

I would've preferred if they continued to use traps instead of as it was put.....forcing us to rent set-top boxes. Makes me wonder if cable theft was really a big of a problem or just a way to mooch more money off of us.

You used to be able to get up to channel 99 with analog, not with QAM. They used to be encrypted over QAM. So they could easily just be a filter on your line to stop you from getting the analogs. Not so easy to do with QAM without rearranging the channels.

You used to be able to get up to channel 99 with analog, not with QAM. They used to be encrypted over QAM. So they could easily just be a filter on your line to stop you from getting the analogs. Not so easy to do with QAM without rearranging the channels.

Correct.

what was encrypted before the analog shut off and when? I have had comcast for 12+ years and dont remember any previous encryption - except for teh "premium" channels like HBO, etcA Brief History of Comcast Seattle ch. 30-70
Prior to 2006:
analog only
Spring, 2006:
analog plus digital simulcast (encrypted QAM), to support Moto 34xx rollout (no analog tuners any more)
Dec, 2008:
analog plus digital simulcast (now un-encrypted QAM to support DTA boxes)
Now (soon?):
analog shutoff, digital only (un-encrypted QAM to support DTA boxes)
Near future?:
digital only (encrypted QAM), assuming FCC grants waivers for DTA box "privacy mode"