I assume you have the AM21 connected to the HR21.
Yes I do.

And WBNG-DT2 is now available on my D* HD DVRs. You just have to go into your channel set up and add it. Not sure when it went live as I just got home. It's still not listed on zap2it.com yet, so it does get added to D* pretty quick just like I remembered.

Thanks, I had assumed that the Zap2It website would have to have it listed before I would see it on my HR20.
Yah, it's there. Wish it were HD, but beggars can't be choosers.

Showing on my HR10 as well.:)

zap2it is now updated to show CW 12.2

Thanks for the update.
But, what's with the listing showing HD?

Well, now what can we talk about?

Oh yeah, the lack of a full power NBC affiliate.

WENY's ABC feed should be available in HD on channel 703 right now. I won't be home until later to check it, so I can't confirm for sure. This gives Elmira all the networks in HD now through Time Warner Cable.

WENY's ABC channel is now in HD on 703 on TWC. Not sure about the OTA signal. Elmira/HHDS TWC customers now have the big 4 in HD. It's about time.....

WENY's ABC feed should be available in HD on channel 703 right now. I won't be home until later to check it, so I can't confirm for sure. This gives Elmira all the networks in HD now through Time Warner Cable.

Guess you beat me my two minutes...lol

Brives, I'm glad you could confirm since I won't be home for a while. Glad to see WENY came through. They've been given a lot of grief, and deservedly so, but I think a lot of people there have been working to get this done. A day late for Lost, but at least it's there.

Does Elmira have the four major networks in HD OTA?

I wish Binghamton did!!!!!

They're not available OTA yet, just available on Time Warner. WENY's two HD channels (CBS and ABC) are supposed to be available OTA by the end of March or around there. WETM (NBC) and WYDC (Fox) are currently available over the air.

But, will WENY have both available in HD?

But, will WENY have both available in HD?

Yes...at least that is what I have been told by WENY. Both channels will be available OTA and on TWC in HD. As of last night we now have both in HD on TWC.....

I see in the guide on my HR20 that 12.2 has some of the evening broadcasts listed as being in HD. I highly doubt it, but it's there.

Yes...at least that is what I have been told by WENY. Both channels will be available OTA and on TWC in HD. As of last night we now have both in HD on TWC.....Will they be subchannels? I assumed that because of the way you stated that WENY would have them both.
I see in the guide on my HR20 that 12.2 has some of the evening broadcasts listed as being in HD. I highly doubt it, but it's there.I alluded to that above.:)

Will they be subchannels? I assumed that because of the way you stated that WENY would have them both.


I'm pretty sure that's the case. They also will be broadcasting the CW in digital (not HD) as somepoint as well. So that would be another sub-channel.

Here is an article from this morning's Star-Gazette......

WENY-TV, the Star-Gazette's broadcast partner, began broadcasting in high definition Thursday on Channel 703, according to a news release from the station.

WENY, the local ABC affiliate, and its new CBS affiliate, WENY2, and CW-TV are locally owned by Lilly Broadcasting. The CBS affiliate is available in analog, Channel 12 on cable, and on high- definition Channel 701.

The stations serve 10 counties in New York and Pennsylvania.

Over-the-air viewers and subscribers to other cable companies will begin receiving their CBS and ABC programming through WENY-TV as soon as the station completes its digital build-out, the news release states. The conversions are expected to happen by the end of March.

At that time, CBS and ABC programming will be available to all viewers in high definition.

Keep us informed as to the PQ.

WETM (NBC) and WYDC (Fox) are currently available over the air.

Don't know how close you are to Corning, but I'm in Southport and can only pick up their weak analog feed. They're still doing their transmissions from Market St., but when they relocate to the same tower WSKA and WENY are/will be using and go full power, I should be able to pick it up.

People forget to mention PBS and to be honest, outside of the Sports the others offer, I watch more stuff from them than the other nets.

WENY, you rock! I never thought this day would come. I take back every bad thing I said about you when I couldn't see Lost in hd. I think I'll pick up a DVR at TWC today.:D

WENY, you rock! I never thought this day would come. I take back every bad thing I said about you when I couldn't see Lost in hd. I think I'll pick up a DVR at TWC today.:D

It was a massive undertaking, due to the fact that there are three networks running through the place, all sharing various pieces of equipment. Additionally, equipment that was supposed to be supplied wasn't so it had to be ordered, installed & de-bugged. There are still a few gotcha's to be worked out, so I hope viewers will be patient as all this shakes out.

It has been a HUGE financial investment & quite painful in this economic climate.
Small market stations pay the same amount for equipment as the big market stations, only the ad revenue in the smaller market is obviously much less.

The station's full-power digital transmitter is about ready to go, only it can't be put on air due to the fact that it's on the same channel as the analog one. So, the OTA analog must go away first & that should happen in March.

The station had Flash-cut authorization before the "digital-delay", so hopefully no more paperwork has to go to the FCC for that to happen in March.

anyone else still having trouble picking up the QAM channels? I've rescanned and the only channels I'm picking up are 7-1 and 12-1. when the tv gets to 79 the channels jump back down to 7-1. I'm confused, and never had this issue before. i'm on a panasonic plasma, and i'm in oneonta. all i'm really looking for is the NBC channel.

When I had to rescan my brothers LG TV I had to have it go through all of the CADTV section as the QAM allocations are at 79+ in that scan.

I'd do a rescan and let it do all of it.

WENY, you rock! I never thought this day would come.
Yes, we've waited many years, but now it's here and it's looking good.

toxteth I'm from Ricgfield Springs and I'm in the same boat as you. Cant get NBC on QAM anymore. What is up with that? Anyone?

Have you done a complete channel scan with the TV?

JD yea I did a bunch of scans. I was getting NBC but cant get it now.

I don't know what else to suggest.
What model TV do you have?
Maybe someone in this other forum here can help.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6

i guess we were never supposed to be getting NBC in HD, so did time warner finally pull the plug on us stuck in the time warp between the utica and binghamton markets? sucks, cause they just raised my rates by $16 a month.

toxteth that is what i was thinking also.Does everyone from Binghamton get NBC hd on QAM? TWC sucks. If they would just make a deal with WKTV(NBC out of Utica) we wouldnt be in this mess.

NBC is fine on clear QAM (20.1) in Binghamton area.

My brother has noticed recently that all QAM HD has an audio/video sync problem.

He does get NBC.

Oh yeah, I just removed ch 384 (CW) from my DirecTV account.
Were you able to do this online? Or did you have to call them?

I tried doing it online and got a message saying I had to call to have that channel removed from my account. I'm also going to remove the PBS feed since I can get WSKG with my antenna. The only DNS I need is NBC HD.

Were you able to do this online? Or did you have to call them?...I had to call DirecTV to remove CW.

I had removed PBS last year, also had to call for that.

When I said that about ch34 I meant when they revert to ch34 from ch4 after the shutoff. WIVT is the only local which is reverting to its original frequency. Which will be good for me, as VHF4 is a problem for me.

Strange - VHF 4 is my strongest channel, and I'm lower in elevation than you. I'll probably loose the signal completely when the change to DT-34.

The lower frequency signals tend to have better ground wave propagation. They tend to follow the terrain and will roll over hills and mountains, whereas UHF signals will not.

What you say about VHF vs UHF is true. I'm hoping that an increase in power once they go to 34 will help.

Our local PBS is using ch42 and I see pixelation with it. Here again once they get rid of ch46 (their analog) and increase ERP, things should change.

Has anybody noticed the vertical stripes that appear throughout the picture, mostly in solid colors on WBNG-DT 12.2? The picture resolution looks a lot lower than it should be as well.

I'm getting a much better picture on satellite.

What you say about VHF vs UHF is true. I'm hoping that an increase in power once they go to 34 will help.

Our local PBS is using ch42 and I see pixelation with it. Here again once they get rid of ch46 (their analog) and increase ERP, things should change.

According to TVFool.com, the signal levels will be a lot lower, even though they will be running higher power. The signal will be about 6db lower than PBS 42.

I thought that PBS 42 was running full power right now. I don't think that anything will change when analog goes off. The engineer that I know at the station mentioned that they reduce power during snow storms because of increased SWR from antenna icing.

Time will tell. I admit to not looking into the details. Once the analog shutdown occurs and whatever changes are made, then I'll look into getting my OTA in better shape.

Reference 12.2. I haven't watched a lot on the CW so I can't say I've noticed anything. I removed the DirecTV DNS version of the CW once 12.2 went live. There are only two shows that interest me at the moment on The CW (Supernatural and Smallville). I usually download those in order to get the WS versions. Does anyone know if The CW version on 12.2 will ever go WS?

Has anybody noticed the vertical stripes that appear throughout the picture, mostly in solid colors on WBNG-DT 12.2? The picture resolution looks a lot lower than it should be as well.

I'm getting a much better picture on satellite.

Yes, I am also noticing some vertical stripes on 12.1 and 12.2, picture quality looks decent otherwise.

I do not mean to be picky after we have waited so long for a CBS and ABC HD signal, but I notice that WENY is only broadcasting with a Dolby 2.0 two channel signal. Most stations even including Fox WYDC are broadcasting with a full Dolby Digital 5.1 signal. Would this be a money thing or is it common for local stations to only have a 2 channel signal?

I can confirm the vertical bars on 12.2. I have not seen this on 12.1 at all, the PQ is good besides the stripes lol

My wife wanted me to drop our NYC channels through DirecTV because she saw that the local CW was OTA. She tuned in to Gossip Girl tonight for a few minutes to see if it was in HD, I told her it wouldn't be but she didn't believe me. Well now she wants me to keep the channel through D*. It's a shame so many CW stations are stuck in the stone ages.

The problem is that the DNS station that DirecTV supplies from Washington DC isn't in HD either. But, for the extra $2/month it is good insurance to be able to get the channel.

You can drop just the CW from DirecTV if you want.

I "moved" to a relatives address so I get all the NYC stations as part of my local. That includes PIX 11, the CW from NYC, which is in HD. My wife watches four of her shows on the CW and I like Supernatural, Smallville and Reaper. Now that we've had it in HD since the summer we're not willing to give it up, that is until the local CW goes HD.

I might be one of those people that gets tv through OTA and internet come October. I'm still weighing the pros/cons of it.

I assumed you had CW as a DNS from DirecTV.

Don't expect our local CW going HD anytime soon. Being on a subchannel makes this a problem. As not too many places have two HD subchannels. I'd just like our local CW to at least be in WS letterbox. Then I could use my TV to fill the screen.

The problem is that the DNS station that DirecTV supplies from Washington DC isn't in HD either. But, for the extra $2/month it is good insurance to be able to get the channel.

You can drop just the CW from DirecTV if you want.
I found the CW East, West, and Mountain Free-To-Air Satellite feeds on Galaxy 17 @ 91.0 W. The picture quality is much better than 12.2. I did not find the HD feeds. They are probably there on the same satellite, but would require a HD FTA receiver.

The good news is - It's Free. The bad news is - A large C-Band dish is required.

I assumed you had CW as a DNS from DirecTV.

Yes, we had it from Baltimore/DC for a while, in SD unfortunately.

Don't expect our local CW going HD anytime soon. Being on a subchannel makes this a problem. As not too many places have two HD subchannels. I'd just like our local CW to at least be in WS letterbox. Then I could use my TV to fill the screen.

I don't expect them to, and CW is one of the reasons I'm hesitant to make the move to OTA/internet tv. I might just buy a season pass to their HD shows through iTunes. Price wise, everything will be a lot cheaper then what I'm paying DirecTV right now.

I was really disappointed that when DirecTV started offering The CW as a DNS station that they didn't go HD. I did subscribe to the SD version but when WBNG went OTA with CW I dropped the Direct TV version.

I believe that WBNG is offering The CW+ version which is the cable only one (similar to The WB+ days), and thus can only get the SD version.

I believe that WBNG is offering The CW+ version which is the cable only one (similar to The WB+ days), and thus can only get the SD version.
What's the difference between CW and CW+?

I believe CW+ is what is used for cable only distribution, as was WB+ before it changed. This may have been one of the reasons that it was delayed by WBNG for 12.2.

Was over at my parents today and noticed that our friends at TWC have a few new HD channels. I saw Speed HD, USA HD, Big Ten HD, and CBS College Sports HD. I may have missed one, but that seems about it for now.

CW+ I believe is the cable-only CW affiliates in tv markets #100 and higher. I think Springfield, MA had that service for a time. We have WTXX-TV/DT channel 20/digital 12 (soon to be 20) here in Hartford/New Haven, so I'm not really sure how local the station can be. As for subchannels, We have the HD when available on 20-1. 20-2 is the exact same thing, only it's a digital simulcast. Why? I have no idea.

CW+

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_CW_Plus

Was over at my parents today and noticed that our friends at TWC have a few new HD channels. I saw Speed HD, USA HD, Big Ten HD, and CBS College Sports HD. I may have missed one, but that seems about it for now.

Yep..however Big Ten HD and CBS College Sports HD I believe is only for those who have the digital sports package....

:confused:TWC added USAHD on 3/3 as promissed, but where is SCiFiHD & FXHD also promissed for 3/3?

Did they promise it for 3/3?? I read the flyer my parents got and it listed channels, but it said Spring. There was no specific date on it.

Looks like they updated their posted date late today to 3/18 .... the TWC site did claim 3/3/09 earlier today, also see post #2249 from ak3883 which has a cut/paste showing the 3/3/09 from the TWC site.

The update from the TWC site:

"We are adding these HD channels by 3/18/09: Fox News HD (ch. 823), CNBC HD (ch. 835) , USA HD (845), Sci-Fi HD (ch. 846) , fX HD (847)."

Looks like they answered my question :D

Ah, adding SciFi HD just in time for BSG to finish the previous week :(

EDIT: Actually I'm wrong - it would be just in time for the 2-hour finale. ;)

Hmm, if they'd add MSG HD and MSG HD+ then they'd have all the channels my wife and I watch in HD, ah scratch that, no CW HD. That's easily remedied though. They're making it too tempting to switch over.

Hmm, if they'd add MSG HD and MSG HD+ then they'd have all the channels my wife and I watch in HD, ah scratch that, no CW HD. That's easily remedied though. They're making it too tempting to switch over.
Out driving today I saw 3 separate D* HD installs taking place. Must be those with TWC are finding D* just as tempting as you are finding TWC. :)

I assumed you had CW as a DNS from DirecTV.

Don't expect our local CW going HD anytime soon. Being on a subchannel makes this a problem. As not too many places have two HD subchannels. I'd just like our local CW to at least be in WS letterbox. Then I could use my TV to fill the screen.

on a hill 20 miles north of Binghamton
I guess its just location location location:)... I receive CW HD OTA on 31 from Scranton (wswb) I just wish CW had something on I would want to watch.

Out driving today I saw 3 separate D* HD installs taking place. Must be those with TWC are finding D* just as tempting as you are finding TWC. :)

Price wise, I'd be paying a lot less through TWC for HD and RR compared to what I pay now for D* and RR.

I like sports, but I only care about the Yankees, Red Bulls and NY Rangers. All teams I would get through MSG and YES. So for me DirecTV's big sports offering is useless. All I care about is that I get the channels I watch, and in HD. Price is a factor too, hence the reason I'm looking at ditching cable/satellite all together and going the OTA/Internet route.

on a hill 20 miles north of Binghamton
I guess its just location location location:)... I receive CW HD OTA on 31 from Scranton (wswb) I just wish CW had something on I would want to watch.Absolutely right about location. I'm only 9 miles from the Binghamton towers but there's this hill stuck in between :(, so I have trouble getting OTA at times. However, ch 12 is my best.

Once the warmer weather gets here I'll see what changes I can do with OTA. BTW, what frequency is WSWB using?

My brother has noticed recently that all QAM HD has an audio/video sync problem.


I've been noticing this a lot lately with TWC network HD feeds here in Binghamton -- especially right now during The Office. It's getting to be pretty annoying.

I don't have TWC, but I hope people are calling TWC about this problem. However, there may not be enough subscribers using QAM for them to care. Or they are doing it on purpose to get them to upgrade to their digital STB.

I don't have TWC, but I hope people are calling TWC about this problem. However, there may not be enough subscribers using QAM for them to care. Or they are doing it on purpose to get them to upgrade to their digital STB.

I do plan on calling tomorrow. Also, I am getting the lag on all three of my sets. 1 is hooked up just using QAM tuner, 1 has the STB, and 1 with an old CableCard, but all three have a definite sync issue.

Please report what TWC has to say about this.

Absolutely right about location. I'm only 9 miles from the Binghamton towers but there's this hill stuck in between :(, so I have trouble getting OTA at times. However, ch 12 is my best.

Once the warmer weather gets here I'll see what changes I can do with OTA. BTW, what frequency is WSWB using?
WSWB 38 is on 31 it is also a sub channel of WOLF 56, but in SD format

Please report what TWC has to say about this.

Just called, they said it was probably coming from the broadcast station, and can't do anything about it unless more people call in and complain. He said to call in anytime it's happening and note what channel and at what time it's occurring.

If anyone else is noticing the bad audio / video sync issues with TWC Binghamton, please call them at 866-TWC-STNY option 4, 2.

I know this is waaay off topic, but does anyone know the prices for the various levels of Roadrunner and what the speeds of each level are?

My 6 month intro price ended and my RR bill went up $20/mo to $50/mo. I have the "Standard" and was thinking of going down to the "Basic" but the TWC site doesn't list prices or speeds.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CentralNY/learn/hso/roadrunner/speedpricing.html

Gee, that website is so informative, isn't it?

I guess they want you to call so you can be harassed by a CSR. :)

I know this is waaay off topic, but does anyone know the prices for the various levels of Roadrunner and what the speeds of each level are?

My 6 month intro price ended and my RR bill went up $20/mo to $50/mo. I have the "Standard" and was thinking of going down to the "Basic" but the TWC site doesn't list prices or speeds.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CentralNY/learn/hso/roadrunner/speedpricing.html
Switch to Earthlink for the next 6 months.
I switch every 6 months and been doing it for years.
Click on "Learn More" at the link.
They just do the switch over the phone, after you sign up for Earthlink.
You might want to call RR and see if they will extend your $30 deal for 6-12 months. Make sure to tell them you're going to switch To Earthlink, worked for me once.

http://www.earthlink.net/access/cable.faces

I know this is waaay off topic, but does anyone know the prices for the various levels of Roadrunner and what the speeds of each level are?

My 6 month intro price ended and my RR bill went up $20/mo to $50/mo. I have the "Standard" and was thinking of going down to the "Basic" but the TWC site doesn't list prices or speeds.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CentralNY/learn/hso/roadrunner/speedpricing.html

I believe RR "Lite" costs 35 dollars a month. It used to be 30, but went up 5 dollars last month.

I know this is waaay off topic, but does anyone know the prices for the various levels of Roadrunner and what the speeds of each level are?

My 6 month intro price ended and my RR bill went up $20/mo to $50/mo. I have the "Standard" and was thinking of going down to the "Basic" but the TWC site doesn't list prices or speeds.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CentralNY/learn/hso/roadrunner/speedpricing.html

My wife is a teacher and as part of her union benefits she gets a discount on RR. We have RR standard for $36. We've had that for 5 years now. She really is a teacher, but she didn't have to provide any documentation to Time Warner to prove it. Might work if you just tell them you're a teacher and see if they give you the discount.

Anyone else notice this change by WIVT?

"What if I still can't pick up WIVT's DTV signal after following the reception guidelines?
If attempts to pick up our temporary digital signal are unsuccessful please be aware that in August of 2009, we are planning to move our digital signal to a permanent digital channel 34 which is UHF where it will also be operating at significantly higher power. This move occurs after the analog shutoff date which is now set for June 2009 as mandated by the FCC"

I haven't visited their website for awhile. I knew they were moving back to ch34, but didn't know when they would be doing it. So August is when they hope to get their transmitter operational at higher power. Hopefully, that will solve my spotty reception.

I have not noticed any major audio/video sync issues on the HD channels - but I still encounter a huge difference in volume between HD content and the local SD commercials...

Was watching CBS last night (monday) - had to turn the TV volume up to ~85 during the HD broadcast and scramble to turn the volume back down to ~45 when the commercials came on.

TV is supposed to have an auto-volume feature to keep things even - but I've never seen (heard?) it actually work - maybe it doesn't work on the RCA audio inputs, I dunno.

Anyone else notice this change by WIVT?

"What if I still can't pick up WIVT's DTV signal after following the reception guidelines?
If attempts to pick up our temporary digital signal are unsuccessful please be aware that in August of 2009, we are planning to move our digital signal to a permanent digital channel 34 which is UHF where it will also be operating at significantly higher power. This move occurs after the analog shutoff date which is now set for June 2009 as mandated by the FCC"

Good find. I know originally the changeover to their permanent digital signal on ch 34 was supposed to be April timeframe, a couple months after the analog shutdown. The transmitter they are using is coming in from Fresno(KGPE I think it was) once it shuts down it's analog operations and no longer needs it. So a couple months to install after KGPE shuts down analog(on 6/12 i'd assume), August 09 sounds about right for WIVT to get it installed and configured for digital operation on ch 34.

The signal does exist on channel 4, comes in great for my elderly uncle who lives on Oak Street in Binghamton... all the channels are very close to pegged at 100% on his DTT901 boxes, just using a simple set of VHF rabbit ears. WSKG is more like 85-90% with a bowtie, but all are strong enough to not breakup at all... thankfully. Heck they had better come in, his location is about 1.5 miles from the towers with no obstructions/hills!

He was so excited to get the CW a couple weeks ago... now he gets 6 networks lol. But still has to turn off the DTV box and use the VCR tuner for WBGH, can't wait till I can eliminate that from his setup.

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He was so excited to get the CW a couple weeks ago... now he gets 6 networks lol. But still has to turn off the DTV box and use the VCR tuner for WBGH, can't wait till I can eliminate that from his setup.Doesn't the TV still have the NTSC tuner? Which could be used for WBGH, instead of the VCR.

That stinks the box does not have an analog pass thru; I am hoping once they(34) gets their new tower up that maybe they will broadcast WBGH on 34.2 but it doesnt seem likely. Some locations MAY be able to pull NBC(WBRE) from scranton once WBNG shuts off their analog feed. It possibly can over power weak signals 11/13 because it is so strong for most of us, WBNG that is.

I have a strong feeling that WBGH will be put on 34.2 at some point. ;)

Bunch more HD channels added here on Time Warner Cable.

MLB Network
Fox News
Bravo
Fox Business
CNBC
Sci-Fi
FX

That's in addition to Speed and USA that were added recently as well.

Aside from HD locals (which vary by location) and pay/movie channels (HBO, Showtime, etc), here's a rundown of all the HD channels:

MGM HD ("HD" tier)
HD Net ("HD" tier)
HD Net Movies ("HD" tier)
Universal HD ("HD" tier)
Versus HD
NHL HD
Golf HD
ESPN News HD
MLB HD
SNY HD
YES HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
ESPNU HD
Big Ten HD (sports tier)
CBS college sports (sports tier)
Palladia
A&E HD
History Channel HD
Discovery Channel HD
HD Theater
TNT HD
TBS HD
Fox News HD
CNN HD
TLC HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
Bravo HD
National Geographic HD
Planet Green HD
Animal Planet HD
Science Channel HD
Fox Business HD
CNBC HD
Travel Channel HD
Biography HD
Lifetime Movies HD
Disney HD
ABC Family HD
DisneyXD (toon Disney) HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
FX HD
Speed HD

It took them a long time to get on the bandwagon, but they now have an incredible HD lineup. There are now 39 "basic" HD channels, 4 "HD tier" channels, 2 "sports tier" HD channels, and a number of HD movie channels (HBO, Starz, Showtime, Cinemax, etc). I can't even think of any significant HD channels that aren't now on that list that I'd like to see.

They need a CW HD channel, and MSG and MSG+ HD. Once they get that I'm sold. Back in January a TWC repair man was here and we chatted about HD channels, he said they expect to have 83 by the end of the year. It certainly looks like their heading that way.

As for other national channels, there's Comedy Central HD, C&I HD, G4TV HD, E! HD, The Style Network HD, Cartoon Network HD, Smithsonian HD, The Weather Channel HD, CMT HD, Fuel TV, NFL Network HD, Nickelodian HD, Spike HD, VH1 HD, Showtime Extreme HD, Showtime Showcase HD, Showtime 2 HD, HBO Zone HD, HBO Comedy HD, HBO Signature HD, HBO 2 HD, and Starz Comedy HD. I'm sure there area few more I'm missing.

Of the 22 channels I listed above, TWC carries none. DirecTV carries 18 of them, although to be fair, CMT, VH1 and Fuel TV show NO HD on their channels.

Of the current channels that TWC offers, DirecTV is lacking of three them. The Travel Channel, Lifetime Movies HD and ESPN U HD.

The problem with Time Warner Cable is they are trying to squeeze too many channels on too little bandwidth. Their HD quality is not that impressive, its nice but it is not that great. They really need to review their delivery structure, channel lineups, to allow for better PQ

The problem with Time Warner Cable is they are trying to squeeze too many channels on too little bandwidth. Their HD quality is not that impressive, its nice but it is not that great. They really need to review their delivery structure, channel lineups, to allow for better PQ

They have changed their delivery structure. They use Switched Digital Video (SDV). They aren't sqeezing all those channels at once. They are only sending the channels that you are actually tuned to. Most of the HD (I'd guess 20+ of them without having checked) channels are switched. It's actually a pretty cool concept.

As I'm sure you know, TWC can't always control the picture quality that they get from the local stations, but I do think that Discovery HD and Disc HD Theater look awesome. A&EHD and The History Channel HD also look great....as do all of the ESPN HD channels. I'm actually pretty impressed with the picture quality of the HD channels on TWC.

In total I think they have nearly 200 digital channels that are delivered this way. I'm pretty sure that's why on their lineup they have a section stating that these 200 or so are not available on cable cards. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that means that those 200 channels aren't using up any bandwidth unless a customer is tuned to that channel.

As for other national channels, there's Comedy Central HD, C&I HD, G4TV HD, E! HD, The Style Network HD, Cartoon Network HD, Smithsonian HD, The Weather Channel HD, CMT HD, Fuel TV, NFL Network HD, Nickelodian HD, Spike HD, VH1 HD, Showtime Extreme HD, Showtime Showcase HD, Showtime 2 HD, HBO Zone HD, HBO Comedy HD, HBO Signature HD, HBO 2 HD, and Starz Comedy HD. I'm sure there area few more I'm missing.Yeah, there are plenty they don't have, but for me, I don't want any of those. I don't subscribe to movie channels (way too expensive) and the rest of those channels either have little or no HD content, or even if they do, I don't watch them anyway. That doesn't mean that nobody wants them, but it gets to a point where there's only so much TV you can watch, and right now they have every HD channel I want.


They have changed their delivery structure. They use Switched Digital Video (SDV).This is correct. They've been using SDV for a while now. At any given time, a node may only be delivering 5 to 10 HD channels at once. Pretty much the entire digital channel lineup is currently SDV, aside from just a few. They are not available on cable card, but there is a device that they are now offering that will allow the two-way communication needed to allow tuing to the SDV channels.

I have noticed at times that certain channels have more low-bitrate artifacts than other channels, and I'm not sure if it's because of Time Warner's compression levels or what, but from what I've heard by people who've directly compared TW to Directv, it's either equal or TW has better HD quality. I'm sure it varies by location.

Been noticing the NBC-HD audio seems be having quite a bit of trouble for a while. Especially during the Nightly News, sounds a bit "garbled". Anyone else notice? Their lip sync has been no prize either, as noted here in an earlier post, by JDS I think. Seems like they are making no progress or effort in correcting this. :mad:

Yeah, there are plenty they don't have, but for me, I don't want any of those. I don't subscribe to movie channels (way too expensive) and the rest of those channels either have little or no HD content, or even if they do, I don't watch them anyway. That doesn't mean that nobody wants them, but it gets to a point where there's only so much TV you can watch, and right now they have every HD channel I want.

Actually some of those channels I listed are 24/7 HD channels. Smithsonian HD has some great programming on it and everything is in HD. Surprisingly, Comedy Central HD shows a lot of true HD and many of their shows are either already in HD or will be very soon.

I'm like you though, if they have the channels I want and are cheaper I'll go in that direction. Spending $143 a month for tv right now is beyond ridiculous. Most of it is because of roughly 3 channels I regularly watch.

Too bad you were not allowed to choose your own package for a few, like a Choose your own channel Tier, How popular do you think this would be?

I've seen MSGHD on Time Warner up in the Albany division, but no MSG+HD. There might be some feuding there since Cablevision owns those channels, I believe they have witheld them from Verizon FiOS in NYC.

As for CWHD, since it's a network affiliate, I doubt that will come anytime soon, unfortunetly.

My brother is still reporting the audio/video sync problem on the QAM HD channels. Maybe it's a conspiracy by TWC to get him to order a digital STB. :)

My brother is still reporting the audio/video sync problem on the QAM HD channels. Maybe it's a conspiracy by TWC to get him to order a digital STB. :)

You can tell him, Clear Qam or Cable Box = same lipsync issue.:rolleyes:

You can tell him, Clear Qam or Cable Box = same lipsync issue.:rolleyes:That's not good (for TWC).

Can anyone with a cable box report if other HD channels, not locals, have this problem?

I was at my parents house for a little today and watched some of the MLB Network and Travel Channel in HD and there were no syncing issues.

I've seen it only on locals, mostly on NBC .... have not noticed it at all on the non-network channels. CBS used to have a lot of lipsunc issues when they were only over the air. Seems this would be a timing issue created by the station and probably not TWC.

So why would it be happening on all or many of the locals?

The common denominator is TWC.

Don't believe I have seen any lipsync issues on the binghamton OTA signals in HD

Right, the OTA look/sound fine. So, it's TWC that's screwing up the sync.

They look better than TWC too, but thats beside the point

I can't say, since I don't have TWC. :)

Non-local channels on TWC lipsync looks fine, in fact channels like USA, SciFI, TNT, PlanetGreenHd are dead on. But, if you watch 34's local news lipsync is horrible some nights both on-air and via TWC, I have compared them on bad nights. Really seems to me TWC is not to blame, they just pass on the bad timing generated by the source.

I have noticed A/V sync issues ever since TW switched around their lineup to add the WBNG feed in late December.

As I use a custom DVR solution (MythTV), I had associated it with some sort of transport stream corruption. In some cases A/V issues have been solvable by running the stream through Myth's "lossless transcode" (which translates to "remultiplex") process, but in some cases (far more frequent with WBNG feeds than any other clear QAM stream), even after a remux, there are severe A/V sync issues on some recordings.

Now it sounds like even realtime non-DVR users are encountering A/V sync issues.

I have not attempted to tune WBNG using my HD cable box.

I have noticed A/V sync issues ever since TW switched around their lineup to add the WBNG feed in late December.

As I use a custom DVR solution (MythTV), I had associated it with some sort of transport stream corruption. In some cases A/V issues have been solvable by running the stream through Myth's "lossless transcode" (which translates to "remultiplex") process, but in some cases (far more frequent with WBNG feeds than any other clear QAM stream), even after a remux, there are severe A/V sync issues on some recordings.

Now it sounds like even realtime non-DVR users are encountering A/V sync issues.

I have not attempted to tune WBNG using my HD cable box.

Yes, I am doing the same thing except I'm using SAGETV. Tonight Ch 34 lipsync looks fine! on the local news... go figure They must be reading this. Before WBNG was on TWC they had tons of sync issues on the over the air. I have a lot of trouble with NBC captures and have to clean it up via a program called Videoredo .... it helps but not perfect;)

Anyhow, picture quality and lipsync seems to be an eternal debate on many forums, OTA is king, but TWC seems not bad, certainly no worse than Direct or Dish's HD quality, another topic of endless debates!

Hope you enjoy Myth .... Take a look at Sage, with the HD extenders it is great! It's great how far this stuff has progressed in the last couple of years.

I get WIVT 34.1 with an antenna and have not noticed any sync issues at any time since I moved here last summer. Obviously I can't comment WBGH NBC since they are not available in digital with an antenna.

How are WICZ (40.1) and WSKG (46.1) on TWC?
I haven't seen any OTA sync problems. (But, then I usually watch the networks on DirecTV because of my current spotty reception problems.)

WICZ will end analog on 4/16/09, according to the FCC's latest list. (http://http://www.fcc.gov/DA-09-589A2.pdf)

is anyone else getting choppy HD signals from time warner?

I am not receiving WBNG analog this morning, have they shut down?

A quick look on their website didn't show anything about a shutdown. But, it indeed it just noise. Maybe they are doing some work on the digital side which required the analog to be shut down.

man, twc and wbng infuriate me. go home for lunch to watch the tourney in HD, and there was no sound, and it wasn't in HD. call customer service and she jerks me around for five minutes telling me i'm doing something wrong, and then she's like "oh, wait there's a technical bulletin saying the engineers are working to fix the no sound/hd problem".

then the sound finally comes on at 12:45 and WBNG starts running the lotto numbers which forces the video back to standard def.

sorry for the rant. go bearcats!

I heard today that WBNG decided to shut off their analog signal early because of some sort of problem. I guess the problem moved over to the digital side. :)

I'm hoping that the Bearcats can have a good showing and not get wiped.

Yeah, if its under a 10 point loss that wouldnt be so bad. they have to play lights out to have a chance, we'll see, thats if WBNG shows up.

It seems BU was outclassed, although they did play hard.

Anyone know if WBNG increased their ERP? I didn't have any dropouts while watching the game OTA.

Just viewed first hand that WSKG HD 46-1 has the audioi/video sync problem. Not terribly bad, but once noticed you can't ignore it. My brother sent an email to TWC concerning this. He reported that he was seeing a synchronization error between the audio and video. Well, the response was that they had nothing to do with audio problems and that he should adjust the volume on his TV. A typical case of not reading or understanding the problem. He replied that they hadn't read his email and that the problem was that the sound coming out of people's mouths didn't match their lip movements. I wonder if they understood that. :)

For D* customers getting locals with an antenna connected to their D* HD DVRs, I just noticed last night that WBPN-LD and WBPN-LD2 are showing up for us on channels 40.1 and 40.2 (not sure how long they've been there). I'm showing no signal strength for either. Weird they are the same channel numbers as WICZ.

I wasn't sure what these were so I did a search and found this on Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBPN-LP. Sounds like someday My Network will be on digital 23.1 and not on 40.2.

When that someday gets here is anyone's guess.:)
I suspect that the PSIP data has gotten messed up.
However, with WBPNLP being low power I doubt I can get it at my location. They will probably go full power in a couple of years.

My HR20-100 still shows 40-1 and 40-2 as being WICZDT and WICZDT2.

You're not seeing WBPN-LD 1 or 2 at all? Both my HR21s have them listed. They look like:

40.1 WICZ-DT
40.1 WBPN-LD
40.2 WICZ-DT2
40.2 WBPN-LD2

They're also listed that way on zap2it.com. I agree something is screwed up to have them appear as 40.x, but it's not affecting me from receiving WICZ-DT or WICZ-DT2.

I haven't re-run antenna setup.

I suspect that WBNG tried to get Zap2It to update their site to include WBPN an Zap2It ended up including both sets.

TitanTV doesn't have it messed up. They list 40-2 as MY8.

I didn't rerun antenna setup either for them to show up. They just showed up on their own, much like CW did a few weeks ago. And it wouldn't have anything to do with WBNG as WBPN is owned by WICZ.

Oops, I guess I still had WBNG on the mind. :(

They are there and may have been earlier. I just didn't have them selected in my Favorite's list as they are there in the Ch's I Get list.

Now this is interesting. If I have both selected in the guide, the WBPN versions give me the "Searching for signal" message. The signal strengths are zero for them. So there is something really wrong. I suspect that the WBPN versions are incorrectly mapped, probably to frequency 40 instead of 8 like the WICZ versions.

Update: I just checked my LG LCD TV and it reports 40-1 as WICZ-HD and 40-2 as WBPN-DT. Interestingly, 12-1 and 12-2 both show as WBNG-DT.

That's what WICZ-DT sends in their PSIP: 40-1 as WICZ-HD and 40-2 as WBPN-DT.

- Trip

WICZ I believe updated their PSIP a few months ago because at one point they both were listed as WICZ, similar to WBNG.

So there is something really wrong. I suspect that the WBPN versions are incorrectly mapped, probably to frequency 40 instead of 8 like the WICZ versions.

Update: I just checked my LG LCD TV and it reports 40-1 as WICZ-HD and 40-2 as WBPN-DT. Interestingly, 12-1 and 12-2 both show as WBNG-DT.
That's what WICZ-DT sends in their PSIP: 40-1 as WICZ-HD and 40-2 as WBPN-DT.- Trip
I'll see what I can do about getting WBPN-LD listed as 23.1 and then having 40.2 changed to WBPN-DT on our D* guides. You should notice that the Fox 10 o'clock news is now correctly listed as ending at 10:35PM instead of 10:30. Also, the episode descriptions for the 5:30PM and 10:35PM Seinfeld have been corrected (they used to show the same episode description).

I'll see what I can do about getting WBPN-LD listed as 23.1 and then having 40.2 changed to WBPN-DT on our D* guides. ...I'm not sure what that would accomplish at this time. Is WBPN-LD actually broadcasting on 23 now? Having 40-2 show as WBPN is fine right now.

Curious if anyone in the STNY area is using a Tivo rather than an TWC HD DVR.

I know there is an issue with Tivo systems needing an external box to handle the SDV and have read reports that they are available in other areas (ie. rochester and buffalo TWC) and was wondering if they were available in our area yet.

Also curious as to what the costs are for cable card(s) for the Tivo, vs the DVR boxes - I can't seem to find any pricing information in TWC's website anymore.

I have no idea. I suggest you give TWC a call.
Oh wait, that might not work. :)

I have the basic cable package to mostly receive NBC and ABC HD since my HR20 OTA antenna setup does work at all for NBC and ABC pixelizes. I have had no problem with these at all for over a year. I believe 79-13 was the location of one of them.

About a week ago, they disappeared. I sent an email to TW and they told me I have basic cable and would need standard cable to get these. I nicely explained to them that I had basic before and it worked fine.

Does anyone know where those two channels or any of the network HD channels?

Thanks
Bob

Do another QAM channel scan on your TV. The channels are now mapped to their assigned channel numbers. WBNG is on 12-1, WICZ is 40-1, WIVT is 34-1, WSKG is 46-1. There are also a couple of subchannels.

I have the basic cable package to mostly receive NBC and ABC HD...About a week ago, they disappeared. I sent an email to TW and they told me I have basic cable and would need standard cable to get these. I nicely explained to them that I had basic before and it worked fine.

Yeah, Bob, while I'm not a TWC customer, my former job required that I keep up with their comings and goings of TWC, and it's my understanding that where the QAM feeds of whatever broadcast networks TWC offered were in the clear, it now requires a standard cable sub to view.

Yeah, Bob, while I'm not a TWC customer, my former job required that I keep up with their comings and goings of TWC, and it's my understanding that where the QAM feeds of whatever broadcast networks TWC offered were in the clear, it now requires a standard cable sub to view.

Does that mean I have to get a standard cable package with box to receive these?

I did try rescanning and they didn't show up....I am going to try and scan my wife's TV tonight and see if they are on hers still.

Thanks
Bob

My brother has standard cable, but no STB, and he gets the QAM channels. Whether you can get QAM with basic cable is a good question. I thought by FCC rules, cable companies had to keep locals in the clear regardless of subscription level.

I only have RR from TWC - no cable subscription of any kind - and I get the QAM HD channels. I very rarely ever watch them since I have D* and my antenna works great, but it's nice to know they are there as a backup.

My brother has standard cable, but no STB, and he gets the QAM channels. Whether you can get QAM with basic cable is a good question. I thought by FCC rules, cable companies had to keep locals in the clear regardless of subscription level.

What is the difference between basic and standard? Price differences?

I can't give the cost breakdown as I don't have TWC.
However, Basic cable is channels 2-13, standard is 2-99 give ore take a few.
I think basic is about $9/month and I wouldn't care to give a cost on standard.
I'll let others report.

I'm not sure what that would accomplish at this time. Is WBPN-LD actually broadcasting on 23 now? Having 40-2 show as WBPN is fine right now.
Having WBPN-LD listed on 23.1 wouldn't accomplish much right now, other than having it be correct for the day when they are broadcasting. And I hope they will change WICZ-DT2 40.2 to the correct WBPN-DT 40.2, and then get rid of the extra 40.1 and 40.2.

I set my HR20 to 40-2 for WBPN instead of WICZDT2. The HR20 gave me the searching for signal message when tuned to WBPNDT. Obviously, the PSIP mapping is still messed up. It doesn't really matter as long as the unit can tune the channel.

Does that mean I have to get a standard cable package with box to receive these?

Standard cable, but you don't have to have a box, straight cable feed to the QAM-capable TV.

What is the difference between basic and standard? Price differences?

Pretty substantial. Basic is less than $10/mo., while Standard is ~ $50/mo.

My brother is still reporting the audio/video sync problem on TWC.

Would somebody PLEASE tell WICZ Fox 40 to get the audio levels matched between the HD and SD feeds (while watching "24" for example). The HD feed is whisper quiet, and the commercials are LOUD :mad:

There's no need to complain. Because it won't matter once they shut off the analog feed in June.

Now if you are talking about the SD and HD feeds on TWC, then complain to them.

Yeah, Bob, while I'm not a TWC customer, my former job required that I keep up with their comings and goings of TWC, and it's my understanding that where the QAM feeds of whatever broadcast networks TWC offered were in the clear, it now requires a standard cable sub to view.

Do another search for all analog and digital stations on your setup of your tv I had to do this for all tvs, thinking the same thing. Another search of all channels will basically reset your TV and then the QAM stations will be picked up again in there number assignments (IE 12.1, 20.1, 34.1, 40.1).

One question out there for everyone, if I just had the internet and not a basic package with TW, would I still pick up these QAMs if I split the cable line before it went to the modem?

One question out there for everyone, if I just had the internet and not a basic package with TW, would I still pick up these QAMs if I split the cable line before it went to the modem?
That's EXACTLY how mine is set up and I do get the QAM HD local channels with just my RR service.

IMO, it would cost more for TWC to send a truck to put blocks on the lines for unencrypted QAM channels (if that is even possible).

There's no need to complain. Because it won't matter once they shut off the analog feed in June.

Now if you are talking about the SD and HD feeds on TWC, then complain to them.

You missed my point (admittedly it wasn't clear). Commercials switch over to the SD feed DURING an HD broadcast (and once in a while during the HD show itself :mad:) The audio levels are totally mis-matched between the feeds.

You missed my point (admittedly it wasn't clear). Commercials switch over to the SD feed DURING an HD broadcast (and once in a while during the HD show itself :mad:) The audio levels are totally mis-matched between the feeds.Yeah, this old fart missed the subtlety in your post.:confused: I can't say I've noticed the audio levels since my WICZ OTA is a little spotty. I get my Fox on DirecTV DNS.

Have you called them to complain?

hiperco: Are you receiving your signal from TWC or OTA service?

I've noticed the same thing, and its not limited to FOX - seen the same on CBS - this is through TWC. A few times (a while ago) that I checked over the air - it did the same thing.

When I watch on my main TV, through my stereo system, I have to set the volume of my stereo system to: -45dB for 'standard def' broadcasts and -25db for 'high-def'.

Now, my understanding is that an increase of 10db is twice as loud as the original volume. So if I'm going from -45dB to -25dB (and increase of 20dB) from 'standard' volume to 'high-def' volume - i'm taking it to mean that the 'high-def' volume level is 4 times lower than the standard def volume (or the standard def is 4 times louder than the high-def)

In any case - I agree its extremely annoying and I am really hoping that they get it fixed when the analog broadcasts get turned off.

So I see 2 CWs on Direct Tv guide now (40.2), one hosting HD content however when I turn to this one it tells me searching for signal? Does anyone else have this issue? Is it my antenna or do they not have HD access up yet or at full strength? I can't imagine if would be an issue if I am getting CW SD no problem with my antenna pointing in the same direction and then not get CW HD programming???

We discussed this last week. Go back up to post #2384. I think it is some sort of PSIP remapping problem and DirecTV getting too much information.

We discussed this last week. Go back up to post #2384. I think it is some sort of PSIP remapping problem and DirecTV getting too much information.

I understand what you are saying but it looks like the second 40.2 has HD content when the first 40.2 does not (you know how on the guide DTV stations are duplicate, one for SD and one for HD). I guess what I am asking is, should I also be getting this station so that I can pick up HD content as I get the SD version fine without any issues!?!?!?

Then the next logical question is, what QAM station is CW HD?

You won't see HD content on 40.2 as it is a subchannel of Fox 40.

I can't tell you if The CW is on QAM, but if it is it should be 40.2 as well.

40.2 is MY8 not CW
the CW is 12.2 WBXI(WBNG)
CWHD is over the air from channel 38 out of Scranton WSWB but good luck trying to receive it. I currently receive MY Network HD out of syracuse channel 44(43.1)

Those duplicate WBPN-LD 40.1 and WBPN-LD2 40.2 on D* will be going away soon. You should only be receiving WICZ-DT 40.1 FOX HD and WICZ-DT2 40.2 My8 SD. The searching for signal appears because WBPN-LD is not actually broadcasting, thus nothing to pick up.

Dang it I keep switching MyNet and CW. Sorry about that.:)

did anyone try and watch the new osbornes show after idol tonight? it first started with a portion of the 10pm fox news.. then went into everybody loves raymond.. then some of the actual osbornes show.. then went back to raymond//

sounds like something wonky is going on at wicz

did anyone try and watch the new osbornes show after idol tonight? it first started with a portion of the 10pm fox news.. then went into everybody loves raymond.. then some of the actual osbornes show.. then went back to raymond//

sounds like something wonky is going on at wicz

I think WICZ has a bunch of circus clowns at the helm of the engineering dept :((

They were probably one of many Fox stations which pre-empted the Osbournes.

- Trip

Just for fun I emailed the local CW to see if they'd starting airing in HD by next season or in 2010. I had done it in the past but never received a response, so when I sent it at 8:02am and received an answer at 8:53 I was shocked. Anyways, here's my email and the response.

Not in the immediate future.

Kate Garger
Programming Coordinator
WBNG-TV
ph. (607) 729-8812 x262
fax (607) 797-6211


-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxx [mailto:xxxx@xxx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:02 AM
To: wbxi@wbngtv.com
Subject: CW HD

Does WBXI ever plan on offering the CW primetime shows in HD?

Thank You

So after that response I sent another email and received the following, pretty quickly too...

I don't believe so.

Kate Garger
Programming Coordinator
WBNG-TV
ph. (607) 729-8812 x262
fax (607) 797-6211


-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxx [mailto:xxxx@xxx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:18 PM
To: Kate Garger
Subject: Re: CW HD

Thanks for your help, but do you expect it to be in place for
next season or sometime in 2010?

Thanks again

I hope she's referring to the next season bit, which I believe is the case.

Yeah the CW for WBNG is CW+(thanks Trip) so it will never be in HD. Scranton CW WSWB is broadcast in HD on channel 38 and depending on elevation, antenna and luck you may be able to bring it in.

Over-the-air viewers and subscribers to other cable companies will begin receiving their CBS and ABC programming through WENY-TV as soon as the station completes its digital build-out, the news release states. The conversions are expected to happen by the end of March.

That didn't happen.

That didn't happen.

Doesn't bother me too much...I'm a TWC subscriber and I now have both CBSHD and ABCHD from them. Might be a little more effective to ask them... My guess would be is that they can't make a lot of decisions on their own and most of their funding and decision making comes from Lilly. Their are probably at the mercy of their parent company. So I'm not sure how much we can blame WENY for what's going on. The only thing I would fault them on is not communicating the delays better. None of us on here have any idea why they aren't over the air yet...so it might work if you just simply send them a quick email. I've had good luck with the news director (Scott Cook)...give that a shot and let us know.

40.2 is MY8 not CW
the CW is 12.2 WBXI(WBNG)
CWHD is over the air from channel 38 out of Scranton WSWB but good luck trying to receive it. I currently receive MY Network HD out of syracuse channel 44(43.1)

Shoot...I screwed up too, I meant to say My8, When or where is My8 airing HD...for the yankee games, I mean every Friday night the yanks are on this network...I am wondering when this area will get with the times and air HD content on this station? And if I can't pick this up via antenna, if its out of Scranton, then DTV should be able to give me some sort of waiver right, for the My Network out of NY which I am sure is in HD..or as you say will they give us the Syracuse MYNetwork HD? That can't be fair that we cannot get HD content on this station locally (IE NBC which I got a waiver for)???

DirecTV doesn't have the authority to give you MyNetwork from NYC or Syracuse. And, since our local MyNetwork (My8) station is a sub-channel of WICZ on 40-2, you won't see it in HD.

The waivers you mention are only for the 4 major networks. The CW is also offered, but in SD only.

These may go away in the future.

I have my doubts that if and when DirecTV offers our locals in HD, that we won't get all of them. Only ABC, CBS, Fox, and PBS are full power and those are all that DirecTV has to offer.

DirecTV doesn't have the authority to give you MyNetwork from NYC or Syracuse. And, since our local MyNetwork (My8) station is a sub-channel of WICZ on 40-2, you won't see it in HD.

The waivers you mention are only for the 4 major networks. The CW is also offered, but in SD only.

These may go away in the future.

I have my doubts that if and when DirecTV offers our locals in HD, that we won't get all of them. Only ABC, CBS, Fox, and PBS are full power and those are all that DirecTV has to offer.

And jdspencer, the big question is WHEN we get locals...the last tech I had to my house said it is because TWC is battling with DTV on getting locals to our area...I have been promised now for over 4 years and nothing!!!

Who's tech did you have out to the house? TWC or DirecTV? I'm not sure how TWC gets into the act with DirecTV offering locals. This should be between the locals and DirecTV.

Anyway, I think we will eventually get locals from DirecTV, once DirecTV gets the next satellite launched (D12). But again, what locals will they be?

Doesn't bother me too much...I'm a TWC subscriber and I now have both CBSHD and ABCHD from them. Might be a little more effective to ask them... My guess would be is that they can't make a lot of decisions on their own and most of their funding and decision making comes from Lilly. Their are probably at the mercy of their parent company. So I'm not sure how much we can blame WENY for what's going on. The only thing I would fault them on is not communicating the delays better. None of us on here have any idea why they aren't over the air yet...so it might work if you just simply send them a quick email. I've had good luck with the news director (Scott Cook)...give that a shot and let us know.

The reason WENY is not over the air in HD is because when the Government changed the DTV switchover date, that mucked up the schedule of our tower crew (who are outside contractors) to hang the STL antennas on the new tower.

They are now scheduled to be here next week & after they are done, we will do a 10 or 12 day "burn in" test of the new STL path & radios. You will know when the switchover is close when you see us testing the new transmitter overnights on a Friday or Saturday after analog signoff.

If there is any interest on this board, I can post exactly when we will do a full power digital test if you want to see how your OTA reception will be. Be advised that it will be done late at night after the analog station signs off.

Hi TriLevelSync thanks for the info; what are the chances of receiving WENY in the Johnson City area? I currently receive WETM analog on ch 18 in J.C. and would like to know if there is a chance of receiving WENY digital.

When you do go digital will you be broadcasting ABC and CBS in HD(720p) and CW at 480i?

Hi TriLevelSync thanks for the info; what are the chances of receiving WENY in the Johnson City area? I currently receive WETM analog on ch 18 in J.C. and would like to know if there is a chance of receiving WENY digital.

When you do go digital will you be broadcasting ABC and CBS in HD(720p) and CW at 480i?

We are currently installing the CW equipment at the studio & when it is added to the program stream, it will be in 480i. We are currently feeding TWC ABC in 720P & CBS in 1080i, and we are in contact with the encoder/mux manufacturer (Harris- NetVx) about the best way to do it with the least amount of compression anomalies. Two HD & one SD stream uses a heck of a lot of bandwidth!

As far as OTA reception in Johnson City- marginal at best. If at all, I'd say maybe if you're on a hilltop with a good antenna. Our transmitter will be about 19 miles further west from Ch.18's, with our antenna at about the same height as theirs. Our Longley-Rice coverage prediction maps do show some signal getting out in your direction, but not in the valleys. But predictions are just that - predictions. You really don't know until you turn the thing on and go out and look!

You may know about the digital "cliff effect". You don't get a progressively degraded (snowy) picture on digital as you do with analog. With digital, it's a perfect picture until there's not enough signal- then it's just gone. so all I can suggest to you is to take a look when we are testing.

Sounds good thanks for the information, I have heard that there are stations broadcasting 2 HD streams and 480i from user Trip in VA and I believe he has a list of those stations. I currently pick up 2 Syracuse stations from my location, so I do understand the cliff effect and exact antenna placement for best possible reception.

I think there would be a lot of people interested in viewing the tests and would provide feedback if wanted.

I am hoping to place another antenna with an A+B switch pointed to Elmira to pick up Binghamton, Syracuse and Elmira stations

The ones I can think of off the top of my head that are doing two HDs and an SD are both in Texas (KLCW, KXII). One in Kentucky used to do it but dropped the dual HD due to many complaints about the poor quality of the picture.

- Trip

Back on my bandwagon, DBS division.

I still think that all would be better served if the major networks were just provided by DirecTV on a national or regional basis. All of this local stuff is just plain stupid from a bandwidth standpoint.

Yeah, I know all of the arguments about local news, sports, and weather and advertising.

Now DMAs that are not well served via OTA is a whole different story.

Sorry to go OT, but condolences and hoping you find the strength to carry on to our neighbors in Binghamton. Today's events should never have happened.

ETA: After posting I realized some might not be aware of the situation to which I refer. Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30030756/)

Thanks, it just shows that this sort of thing can happen almost anywhere. With the shooter dead, it may be hard to determine exactly why he did it.

First, I lost my 40-1 OTA. My wife had it but I did not. Called the Sat guy and we got that figured out. Something about an extra 40-1 showing up and I ended up redoing the SAT setup.

I still had the QAM issue on my Panasonic plasma that I had before. I rescanned a couple of times but did not work.

I go and check my wife's Panasonic LCD. She had all the QAM channels at the new location.

So, I called my SAT guy and he said try resetting my plasma and then rescanning. That worked but I only found 20-1,12-1 and the 46's. No 40-1 or 34-1(the one I really need along with 20-1. My question is, my TV is farther away from where the cable comes in to our house then my wife's. Could I have a weak cable signal to my TV?

Thanks
Bob

Sorry to go OT, but condolences and hoping you find the strength to carry on to our neighbors in Binghamton. Today's events should never have happened.

ETA: After posting I realized some might not be aware of the situation to which I refer. Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30030756/)

Nice message, and same here, I hope the people and the city have strength to overcome this tragedy and not become worse because of this awful event.

It could be that one TV's tuner isn't as sensitive than the other one. With digital, you either have it or you don't. You should be able to check the signal strengths on the TVs. Usually in the manually tune section of the setup.

Back on my bandwagon, DBS division.

I still think that all would be better served if the major networks were just provided by DirecTV on a national or regional basis. All of this local stuff is just plain stupid from a bandwidth standpoint.

Given the fact that DBS serves the RV/mobile crowd, I'm a firm believer they shouldn't have to play by Cable's/the NAB's rules. Also, it's only been around a decade and a half, so it doesn't have the infrastructure/existing customer base advantage that Cable does, to say nothing of the High Speed Internet, digital phone, VOD offerings. I know DoD exists, but doing any kind of HD (why would I do SD?) over a 1.5Mbps DSL line is far from immediate.

I will differ with those who draw the "I can buy any newspaper from any major city where I live, why can't get those networks?"-stance. Keep it the way it is- east of the Mississippi, NYC nets, west, LA. As you say, use all the bandwidth taken up by locals/HD locals and for other services.

I really wish DIRECTV would have partnered/sided with DISH Network when it got in trouble regarding offering Distant to unqualified subs. Instead, they chose to roll over and DN took the brunt. I know it was a tactical move to snare subs from DN and maybe the felt it was no win to butt heads with the NAB, but I think it was worth a spin.

I didn't quote it, but your point on the fact that OTA isn't always an option seems to escape people sometimes. We're on the verge of being served by all 5 major broadcast Networks for the first time, you deal with the fact that NBC is out of range. The fact is most folks would never consider an antenna because they figure what it provides is already offered by their cable sub. I think there's no reason DBS customers should be treated differently.

It could be that one TV's tuner isn't as sensitive than the other one. With digital, you either have it or you don't. You should be able to check the signal strengths on the TVs. Usually in the manually tune section of the setup.

I had enough signal strength before they moved them. Shouldn't I have the same as it was before?

Thanks

I had enough signal strength before they moved them. Shouldn't I have the same as it was before?

ThanksMaybe not, if the station made some adjustments to their power output or signal pattern.

Instead of doing an automatic scan, try a manual one. Some TVs allow this. My TV has a manual section which also allows me to see the strength for individual frequencies.

I had enough signal strength before they moved them. Shouldn't I have the same as it was before?

Thanks
Not necessarily....different frequencies react in different ways to poor wiring, splitters, f-connecters, levels, etc....what worked before at (example 123.456 may not work at 123.567)

Not necessarily....different frequencies react in different ways to poor wiring, splitters, f-connecters, levels, etc....what worked before at (example 123.456 may not work at 123.567)

Is my best solution is to have the cable come out and check signal strength to my TV?

Okay, clear this up for me. In your post you talk of OTA and QAM and SAT. Which is giving you the problem? My reply and shovelhead's after yours are about OTA. QAM is cable related.

Okay, clear this up for me. In your post you talk of OTA and QAM and SAT. Which is giving you the problem? My reply and shovelhead's after yours are about OTA. QAM is cable related.

Sorry for the miscommunication...my OTA issue is resolved.

My issue is trying to find the network channels using the tuner (QAM) in my Panasonic plasma. I had them on that TV until they moved them. My wife gets them but I can't any longer. Nothing changed except for they moved them from 79-13,etc to 40.1,etc.

Thanks
Bob

I assume you have done a rescan on the TV? What happens if you do a manual search for the channels (if the TV allows it)? Can you watch where it pauses during the automatic scan and see how many it has found? Make sure you let it go all the way to the end. When TWC changed the numbers, my brother did a scan but stopped it too early. I did it again and let it go all the way. I saw that when it got to 79 it added a couple of channels to the count found. So, the actual channel numbers are still 79 etc but the PSIP info remaps them to their OTA numbers.

I assume you have done a rescan on the TV? What happens if you do a manual search for the channels (if the TV allows it)? Can you watch where it pauses during the automatic scan and see how many it has found? Make sure you let it go all the way to the end. When TWC changed the numbers, my brother did a scan but stopped it too early. I did it again and let it go all the way. I saw that when it got to 79 it added a couple of channels to the count found. So, the actual channel numbers are still 79 etc but the PSIP info remaps them to their OTA numbers.
If Jd's fix doesnt work for you. Have the cable signal checked on that TV set. (unless its a cable outlet you hooked up yourself:confused:) You could also try moving your set to where your wife's tv is and see if it works any better on her line. That would point you in the right direction.....

If Jd's fix doesnt work for you. Have the cable signal checked on that TV set. (unless its a cable outlet you hooked up yourself:confused:) You could also try moving your set to where your wife's tv is and see if it works any better on her line. That would point you in the right direction.....

Yes...I have reset and rescanned. My plasma has a manual scan but I can never find anything with it. My wife's can scan digital and or analog but mine is analog or everything, no option to just do digital.

I have looked for the channels in the old places and did not find them.

I think the best bet is to have TW do a signal check unless I can find some coax to hook my plasma to from my wife's line. I don't want to lug the plasma into the bedroom.....

I paid TW enough over the years, I think they can come out and check it for me.

Thanks for the help....

If Direct TV would just broad cast our locals in HD my headache would be over.:)

I believe if you add TWCs digital tier you can get the locals that way. Of course, this depends on which TWC area you're in.

You could just buy 25-50ft of coax and run it from your wifes jack to your plasma and that would give you an idea where the problem is

bull77ock, I'm having the exact same problem with a panasonic plasma. i've done the scan countless times but still can't get NBC. another weird thing is that when I go to the HD channels that the tuner does pick up, the tv picks up two channels and one of them has a black screen. i.e. if I go to 12.1 I get CBS , but when I hit channel up, it also states 12.1 but I get a completely black screen. it must have something to do with the TV not picking up the subchannels? I searched around in the threads for my tv and it seems like their might be a firmware update for the TV that might fix the problem. I don't know, it's just really frustrating.

bull77ock, I'm having the exact same problem with a panasonic plasma. i've done the scan countless times but still can't get NBC. another weird thing is that when I go to the HD channels that the tuner does pick up, the tv picks up two channels and one of them has a black screen. i.e. if I go to 12.1 I get CBS , but when I hit channel up, it also states 12.1 but I get a completely black screen. it must have something to do with the TV not picking up the subchannels? I searched around in the threads for my tv and it seems like their might be a firmware update for the TV that might fix the problem. I don't know, it's just really frustrating.

I tried something last night that makes no sense. I ran the TV Guide setup and waited for overnight as it instructed. In the morning I checked it and 20.1and 12.1 were found and working. It found 34.1 but it will not show anything.

Strange......if you find out anything on the firmware, please let me know. How does one do a firmware upgrade on a TV?

Thanks
Bob

I guess you download the new firmware onto an SD card.

The other thread pointed me to this website:

http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/specialapplications/productfirmwaredownloads/Plasma.ASP


what do you mean "tv guide" setup?

I guess you download the new firmware onto an SD card.

The other thread pointed me to this website:

http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/specialapplications/productfirmwaredownloads/Plasma.ASP


what do you mean "tv guide" setup?

On my plasma remote it has a button that says TV GUIDE and it functions as your on screen guide just like if you had cable or DBS.

On my plasma remote it has a button that says TV GUIDE and it functions as your on screen guide just like if you had cable or DBS.

Which model Panny plasma do you have? I have two.... 42py60u and a 46pz85u and I don't think that either of mine have that. I'd be interested to know just for comparison....

I know it was mentioned a few weeks ago, but is anyone noticing the horrendous lag on NBC HD right now? I'm watching The Office and it's a good 0.5 - 1 second behind the video.

I've got Time Warner Cable and watching this on their cable box / DVR.

Have you complained to TWC?

A couple weeks ago I did... They said they didn't see a problem, and my signal looked strong.

They most have been deaf. :)

A strong signal and audio/video sync problems are not related.

way to go wbgh for interrupting 'parks and recreation' with commercials!

Which model Panny plasma do you have? I have two.... 42py60u and a 46pz85u and I don't think that either of mine have that. I'd be interested to know just for comparison....

The model is TH-42PX500U

New HD channels added on TWC lineup

796 - AMCHD
797 - IFCHD
798 - TCHD (sports tier I'm guessing)
833 - CIHD (crime investigation?)
844 - CNHD (cartoon network)
848 - E!HD
896 - STLHD (style network)
897 - FUSHD
898 - G4HD
900 - QVCHD
901 - WEHD

I'm pretty impressed with the TWC HD lineup now

What's TCHD?

Out of the new channels listed, DirecTV is missing NINE of the channels, add in the other three that they've offered for a while now and that's TWELVE HD channels that DirecTV is lacking. D11 has been pretty disappointing with it's HD expansion, at least for me. I don't care about all the RSN's they've made into full time HD stations or all the locals they're putting up since Binghamton isn't even remotely on their schedule for the near future.

I remember when DirecTV was the clear HD leader, unfortunately those days are long gone. Going through the list of NATIONAL HD channels (plus the RSN for this area) DirecTV offers the following that TWC DOES NOT:

Comedy Central HD
Smithsonian HD
The Weather Channel HD
CMT HD
Fuel TV
NFL Network HD
Nickelodeon HD
Spike HD
VH1 HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Showcase HD
MSG HD
MSG + HD
CW HD

TWC offers the following that DirecTV DOES NOT

ESPNU
Travel Channel HD
LifetimeMovie HD
AMCHD
IFC HD
TC HD
E! HD
Style HD
Fuse HD
G4 HD
QVC HD
We HD

I think it's safe to say that the disparity between the two is gone. It'd be interesting to see what happens when FiOS is introduced into the area. Someone I know that works for Verizon said that they've been contacting cable contractors (for laying fiber) about wiring most of Broome County.

As for DishNetwork, I haven't the slightest clue. I know they added several new channels last week, but they compress the hell out of their pictures so their picture quality is crap.

Yeah, DirecTV has been dragging their feet with regard to launching new HD. However, I still won't go with TWC. I have enough HD and don't need a shopping channel in HD.

BTW, what DirecTV channel is CW HD on? That is only available to areas that have their HD locals. There is the SD version as DNS from Washington, DC.

What's TCHD?



It's the Tennis Channel

DirecTV does have the Tennis Channel in HD.
Ch 217.

As for DishNetwork, I haven't the slightest clue. I know they added several new channels last week, but they compress the hell out of their pictures so their picture quality is crap.

And Direct doesn't compress?
I don't see any difference between them.
They both do a lot of compression, however TWC is even worse for PQ.

Since DirecTV has put the two newest satellites into operation (D10 & D11) and have moved to MPEG4 HD delivery, their compression has been greatly reduced. I see a much better picture on DirecTV's HD channels now as well as the SD (which I don't really watch much now :)).

I remember when DirecTV was the clear HD leader, unfortunately those days are long gone. Going through the list of NATIONAL HD channels (plus the RSN for this area) DirecTV offers the following that TWC DOES NOT:

Comedy Central HD
Smithsonian HD
The Weather Channel HD
CMT HD
Fuel TV
NFL Network HD
Nickelodeon HD
Spike HD
VH1 HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Showcase HD
MSG HD
MSG + HD
CW HD

TWC offers the following that DirecTV DOES NOT

ESPNU
Travel Channel HD
LifetimeMovie HD
AMCHD
IFC HD
TC HD
E! HD
Style HD
Fuse HD
G4 HD
QVC HD
We HD

I think it's safe to say that the disparity between the two is gone.

Well, if we take out CW-HD from the DIRECTV list, which you get because you "Moved", and dropping TC-HD from the TW list because we know it's the "Tennis Channel" and DIRECTV has that, it's actually 13-11 in DIRECTVs favor. Also, it's subjective as to which channels are the most important, but for me it would be NFL Network in HD, which I think we all can agree has a snowball's chance in Hell of being added to TWC, at least in the immediate future. Hate to go by stereotypes, but is anyone outside of housewives going to be that into QVC-HD? Yeah, I'd like to have IFC-HD, E!-HD, and a couple of others, but it's not something I'll pull my hair out over. YMMV.

I think it's all become pretty even, at least for the companies that want to compete HD-wise. Just be glad you're not doing Comcast in Towanda, Pa., where there are no HD channels, last I checked anyway. You just need to be with the provider that offers the HD channels you value the most right now. For me, that's still DIRECTV, though I can't help but be impressed with TWCs deployment. But, that doesn't change the fact that for a long period of time I got a significant number of HD channels from DIRECTV, while TWC viewers were stuck with 13.

It'd be interesting to see what happens when FiOS is introduced into the area. Someone I know that works for Verizon said that they've been contacting cable contractors (for laying fiber) about wiring most of Broome County.

I heard rumblings about Verizon laying fiber in this area last Summer, but haven't seen anything come of it yet. Hell, I'm still 1.5 Mbps down, so I'm starting to give up hope.

As for DishNetwork, I haven't the slightest clue. I know they added several new channels last week, but they compress the hell out of their pictures so their picture quality is crap.

I really have no clue about DISH Network, but I'd imagine that since they've moved to MPEG 4 their PQ issues would have been addressed. And I'll give them their due and say kudos to them for offering HD-only programming options. Wish the other providers would follow that.

Since DirecTV has put the two newest satellites into operation (D10 & D11) and have moved to MPEG4 HD delivery, their compression has been greatly reduced. I see a much better picture on DirecTV's HD channels now as well as the SD (which I don't really watch much now :)).
Dish just put up Ceil 2 in Dec 2008 and Dish has been Mpeg4 HD for almost 2 years now.
Direct has more capacity than Dish and not adding any HD, I'm waiting for the Travel channel.

Yeah I wish D* would pick up the HD ball again and run with it. It sure was fun when D10 came online in fall 2007 and every week it seemed we got a gluttony of new HD channels. I was hoping for something similar with D11, but I agree it has been somewhat disappointing for national HD channels. D12 is supposed to launch and be operational this year, so that brings hope.

It's the Tennis Channel

Gotcha, thanks, yeah, remove one from the TWC column then.

Dish just put up Ceil 2 in Dec 2008 and Dish has been Mpeg4 HD for almost 2 years now.
Direct has more capacity than Dish and not adding any HD, I'm waiting for the Travel channel.

The difference between Dish and DirecTV is the number of HD channels they put on each transponder. DirecTV maxes out at around 5 per transponder where as Dish will put 3-4 times as many per transponder in many cases. Presumably this is because of their lack of satellites, with the failure last year and the new satellite still in test mode.

The difference between Dish and DirecTV is the number of HD channels they put on each transponder. DirecTV maxes out at around 5 per transponder where as Dish will put 3-4 times as many per transponder in many cases. Presumably this is because of their lack of satellites, with the failure last year and the new satellite still in test mode.
Ceil 2 is in operation, has been for a month or more.
Google satelliteguys you'll find the differences between the satellite systems.

Here's the email response from TWC concerning my brother's complaint about out of sync audio/video on the QAM channels.

The channels that you are referring to 12-1 20-1 and 40-1 are not HD channels, these are Digital channels. They are picked up through the digital tuner that is built into your television. Your cable box provides all the channels that do not include the channels that are # - #. The channels that you are talking about not being in sync are broadcasted by the channel itself not Time Warner Cable.
What do you all think of this?

Here's the email response from TWC concerning my brother's complaint about out of sync audio/video on the QAM channels.


What do you all think of this?

Total IDIOTS at TWC :mad:, thats what I think.

I agree. Anything I can tell my brother other than the obvious? :)

I would summon as much patience as I could muster, and politely ask that my request be forwarded to someone that understands the fact that TWC sends those channels over their system via QAM and that they are re-mapped for display purposes to show their over-the-air (OTA) equivalent.

(side note - the OTA channels aren't at those physical channel numbers either, as most of us in the know are aware ;)

Yeah, I'll mention that my brother request that his request be sent to the chief engineer.

TWCs response indicates that all of the channels are screwing up the sync. Highly unlikely.

Maybe a test email to one of the stations would be in order. Mention to them what TWC said.

TWC claiming that the QAM channels are just digital and not HD is telling me that the CSRs don't know what they are talking about. Well, DUH!

I almost wish I had TWC so I could do some analysis of the problem. OMG, what am I saying. :(

Ceil 2 is in operation, has been for a month or more.
Google satelliteguys you'll find the differences between the satellite systems.

Yup, you're correct, but I'm sure the failure of the satellite last year hasn't helped the situation. on satelliteguys you'll see people list how many channels are on each transponder.

Yup, you're correct, but I'm sure the failure of the satellite last year hasn't helped the situation. on satelliteguys you'll see people list how many channels are on each transponder.
They have different types of systems and different modulation.
Dish uses QPSK, Direct is DSS and Ku VS Ka.
Dish still has plenty of space for HD as Direct does.
They both have Sat. going up this year so capacity isn't a problem now or in the future.
The PQ is equal in my opinion, neither is pure HD, however better than TW.
I have Dish for movies and Direct for sports.

Is anyone experiencing issues with picking up FOX OTA? For a few days now my Fox is totally out, no signal whatso ever, and nothing has changed in my hook up, antenna is still in the same place???

Same here. Nada, nothing. Zero signal on the meter.

Maybe you guys should contact their office, they might not be aware.

I am receiving 40-1 on my TV with the ATSC tuner. My two DirecTV receivers, HR10 and HR20, are not receiving the channel. I am not receiving Fox40 analog on the TV, which I did before. So I suspect that Fox40 has done their analog shutdown and in the process messed something up. Since the TV maps okay, then it can't be the PSIP signal. So my guess is that something else has happened so that DirecTV is sending wrong mapping info.

I really wish these DirecTV receivers would allow scanning for channels instead of relying on some database somewhere.

Is anyone experiencing issues with picking up FOX OTA? For a few days now my Fox is totally out, no signal whatso ever, and nothing has changed in my hook up, antenna is still in the same place???
It has to do with the 2 erroneous WBPN listings. Just reset your HR20s OTA settings, then redo the initial OTA setup and FOX will come in again. But beware, you may have to do the same thing in a few days. And also beware you may want to redo any series links you have setup on FOX. I've had the same issue: no signal on FOX, then I reset the OTA setup and then redid the initial setup and it was fine, only to have the same issue again a few days later. The next new D* software should fix this, and that is hopefully coming soon.

EDIT: And I just noticed the WBPN listings are now gone on the zap2it.com site, which is where our D* receivers get their guide data from, so hopefully our receivers will be updated soon and this problem will go away even without a new D* software.

I guess we wait. In the meantime I'll just continue to use DNS. :)

Is anyone experiencing issues with picking up FOX OTA? For a few days now my Fox is totally out, no signal whatso ever, and nothing has changed in my hook up, antenna is still in the same place???

They turned off their analog signal the other day.
Only transmit digital now.

The WICZ problem via OTA on D* receivers has nothing to do with them shutting off analog on 4/16. The problem was happening before that date.

I reset and then reran the initial OTA setup on one of my D* HR21s tonight and both the WBPNs are now gone. They were still listed before I reset the OTA settings. They should go away on their own at some point too.

Hmmm, all OTA channels are now missing from the guide on my HR20. I'll have to wait until after it finishes recording tonight before I re-run the antenna setup. My HR10 seems to be okay.

Did you make any changes to the OTA settings on your HR20, or did the OTA channels just disappear all on their own?

Has anyone been able to get listings for 46.2 on Media Center? I can't seem to find any.

Thanks!

Did you make any changes to the OTA settings on your HR20, or did the OTA channels just disappear all on their own?Sorry for the delay in replying. The HR10 is still fine, except for low and fluctuating strengths for 8 and 42 (normal for me until I can tweak the antenna alignment).

The HR20 just plain lost all stations, as if I hadn't done the OTA setup. Just completed OTA setup and all is working now. Signal strengths seem to be in line with the HR10.

Nice little outage going on from twc phone and internet now?

My neighbor just asked me about this.
He has no phone, but didn't say anything about internet.

Back on now. But was down for almost three hours. Must have been pretty widespread, couldn't even get through to customer service.

it was out here in Elmira as well

Anyone else in STNY now seeing their RR modem reseting multiple times a day, since late last week?

Nope, mine's been fine. Pre/Post statewide outage.

Two more new HD channels on TWC..

802 - MSGHD
881 - NY1HD (24 hour news channel out of NYC

That is gonna make me order TWC?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I'm happy for TWC customers for getting more HD.

That is gonna make me order TWC?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I'm happy for TWC customers for getting more HD.


I thought I remember someone mentioning that they were interested in when TWC was getting MSGHD..or something like that...just thought I'd share....

Also just noticed The Weather Channel HD on 899

I was the one interested in MSG HD. I'm a big Rangers fan, but since they lost I won't be watching it as much now. Although I do watch the Red Bull games on MSG.

My DirecTV contract is up in October so there's still just under 6 months left for me to decide what to do. It'll be interesting to see how many more HD channels TWC adds by then. DirecTV might add a few by 2010, but most will come online when D12 goes live for subscribers which won't be until early 2010 according to DirecTV. At a recent retailers show DirecTV said new national HD is coming in 2010, when asked about more in 2009 they said when D12 goes live, and that's 2010. A bit disappointing really.

You guys are up to about 73 channels by my last count, TWC is really adding the HD channels, their investment in SDV really seems to be paying off.

Stuck with 40 HD channels down here on Comcast, I really need to look at buying a slingbox for my parents house in Apalachin, lol.

Finally MSGHD as well, Albany region has had that for awhile, along with Weather Channel HD

Does anyone have any information as to why the Elmira stations WETM ( NBC) WENY ( ABC, CBS) only broadcast with a stereo 2.0 signal when all prime time shows are available in full dolby digital 5.1. WYDC (FOX) does broadcast everthing in 5.1

I'd call the station and ask.

Probably because the equipment to do 5.1 audio hasn't been budgeted. The Fox splicer includes 5.1 out of the box, whereas the other networks don't use integrated gear like the splicer. Every Fox station does 5.1 as far as I know.

- Trip

Probably because the equipment to do 5.1 audio hasn't been budgeted. The Fox splicer includes 5.1 out of the box, whereas the other networks don't use integrated gear like the splicer. Every Fox station does 5.1 as far as I know.

- Trip

Trip is correct in our case........ maybe next budget cycle.

TLS, is there date when WENY might start transmitting OTA, before the final date that is?
I keep checking but only the analog CH 36 is picked up here, just outside of Pine City NY.
Thanks in advance,
G2

Wow, someone else besides me is keeping track! :D

TLS, is there date when WENY might start transmitting OTA, before the final date that is?
I keep checking but only the analog CH 36 is picked up here, just outside of Pine City NY.
Thanks in advance,
G2

Gary
We were up at the transmitter last night working on the new STL. We had a concern that the new digital STL would interfere with the current analog STL which is on the same frequency. They are pointed in different directions, but we weren't sure about the side-lobes getting into eachother. Apparently, our concerns were unfounded as both are operating with no problems.

Currently we have a link with lock, but the muxed signal is not getting through correctly. The exciter on the new transmitter does not have a MPEG-lock, even though it shows a signal on the input. Personally, I think there is a setup parameter mis-set on the STL that we can't locate. We have a call into the factory rep (Mosley) & hopefully will have the problem resolved post-haste.

When we do a late-night full power transmitter test (hopefully by this weekend) I will post on this board the time and day. Believe me, nobody wants this project behind us more than the engineering department at the station.

Cheers.

Sounds like a plan, of course we all wish you the best of luck
in sorting out the difficulties.
G2