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Smackdown25
03-04-11, 04:30 PM
Will the DN locals here in Binghamton ever be in HD?

jdspencer
03-04-11, 04:52 PM
The DNS channels are from NYC and are in HD.
And the actual locals are in HD except for The CW and MyNetwiork.

However, getting waivers for them will be next to impossible if you don't already have them.

bidger
03-04-11, 05:27 PM
Maybe DN = Dish Network?

jdspencer
03-04-11, 05:50 PM
Yeah, that's probably true.
I just forget about them :)

Since my post above that was about DNS I assumed that it was a typo.

Indiana627
03-04-11, 08:53 PM
The E* locals here aren't in HD? No wonder they are losing subscribers (http://www.tvpredictions.com/dishsubs022411.htm) left and right.

Smackdown25
03-05-11, 09:49 AM
Yeah sorry bout that, I did mean Dish Network. I was just wondering how the locals look. I hate having those black bars on the sides of my TV.

jdspencer
03-05-11, 09:56 AM
Locals from DirecTV are the same as from OTA. Except DirecTV doesn't offer the two PBS subchannels.

Smackdown25
03-05-11, 10:34 AM
Direct TV has ALL the locals except for PBS? I thought there was some sort of disagrement with WICZ?

jdspencer
03-05-11, 10:49 AM
Direct TV has ALL the locals except for PBS? I thought there was some sort of disagrement with WICZ?No, I said they didn't have the other two PBS sub channels. WSKG has three video channels. 46-1, 46-2, and 46-3, Only the -1 is on DirecTV.

Smackdown25
03-05-11, 11:32 AM
Yeah I understand that, what I was asking is if Direct TV is going to keep broadcasting ALL of the locals or get rid of some of them again because of the disagrements with some of the networks?

jdspencer
03-05-11, 11:37 AM
I have no idea if DirecTV and Northwest Broadcasting have come to an agreement that will keep WICZ on the sats. It has been over 4 weeks since they temporarily added them back. And WICZ's website is terribly out of date.

Indiana627
03-05-11, 07:29 PM
I heard D* and Northwest agreed to a 9 day extension which is why WICZ is still on D*. Hopefully that extension means some progress has been made and a permanent deal is close. I guess we'll find out more at the end of this 9 days.

Indiana627
03-14-11, 07:47 PM
D* and Northwest agreed to a 7 day extension that lasts through 3/18. With all these extensions, it's beginning to look like the NFL negotiations. I wonder which stalemate will end first?

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/officehours/2011/mar/13/kayu-still-directv-both-sides-agree-keep-talking/

Indiana627
03-19-11, 03:06 PM
Is anyone having problems with WSKG via OTA? My signal strength on it has gone way down recently.

jdspencer
03-19-11, 04:44 PM
I have about 80% here. Not much different from before.

willisf
04-11-11, 07:01 PM
Looks like Elmira is finally getting locals on Directv

http://investor.directv.com/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=567980

bidger
04-11-11, 07:14 PM
Took awhile but we finally have some fresh news in this thread.

jdspencer
04-11-11, 07:20 PM
Too bad they didn't state what month with that announcement.
Here the list on DirecTV's web site.
DirecTV HD Locals (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/hd_locals)

willisf
04-12-11, 03:07 PM
I emailed the Staion manager at WETM, he says they have been told nothing by Directv.

Smackdown25
04-20-11, 06:44 PM
Anyone else having problems with 34-1 and 2?

jdspencer
04-20-11, 06:58 PM
What kind of problems are you having?

Those seem to be working for me as well as they ever have.:)

I get breakups due to some multipath.

Smackdown25
04-20-11, 07:07 PM
Nevermind, I just had to turn my antenna a little. 40-1 keeps breaking up though.

jdspencer
04-20-11, 07:17 PM
I need to tweak mine as well, but it's on my roof. :)

Right now it's really only a backup for the DirecTV delivered versions.
Except for 46-2 and 46-3, which I rarely watch.

Indiana627
04-21-11, 07:20 PM
What antenna would you guys recommend for me to get the Binghamton channels. I live up behind BU and literally am only 1-2 miles from the towers. I want something I can mount in my attic so it has to be pretty good as I won't be able to monkey with it very easily. Tired of looking at my UHF only model on top of my TV.

jdspencer
04-21-11, 09:58 PM
This web site will help you decide.
http://tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90

As you have found out the UHF antenna you have isn't doing very well with chs 12 and 40 as they are using VHF frequencies 7 and 8 respectively. Being that close to the towers, rabbit ears might work for the VHF.

Indiana627
04-22-11, 06:48 AM
I've used antennaweb.org to help figure out which color coded antenna to use and I know being so close I don't need a big one. Yes you are right I do have some problems with CBS and FOX since they are VHF and my current antenna is only UHF.

I was wondering if anyone had any specific advice or experience with an antenna that they found good that they would recommend? Or perhaps advice on which antenna are bad and to stay away from?

jdspencer
04-22-11, 07:20 AM
I'd check out the antennas at Radio Shack (don't laugh) because then if it doesn't work it would be easy to return it. Lowe's also has some antennas. Almost any brand antenna should work. To help eliminate multipath it should be directional.

sustorm
04-26-11, 03:25 PM
http://unicornelex.com/search.aspx?find=antenna+uhf

this is a local store in johnson city, they have a lot of good stuff and great staff. I would probably go with the http://unicornelex.com/channelmastercm-2016antennavhfhighuhfhdtv.aspx

That should work fairly well.

Do you mind posting your TVFool report?

Indiana627
04-26-11, 08:19 PM
Yeah I just haven't had time to head over there yet. Thanks for the reminder.

Indiana627
04-27-11, 07:25 PM
Does anyone here have first hand experience with the Channel Master 2016?

sustorm
04-28-11, 10:56 AM
i do not have personal experience with this antenna but there a lot of positive reviews online:

http://www.amazon.com/Channel-DIGITAL-ADVANTAGE-Outdoor-Antenna/dp/B0018BZJNS

Indiana627
04-28-11, 02:17 PM
Is it possible that me being less than 2 miles from the towers could overload this antenna? Or that the signal it would send to my OTA tuners would be too strong and cause reception problems?

sustorm
04-28-11, 03:24 PM
Your attic will lessen the signal strength some what. I have read 20-30% but it depends on the construction of the roof(type materials used, not style). As far as overloading your tuners, you can always use a splitter to drop the signal strength if they are overloaded. I would recommend getting your tvfool report and posting out on the hdtv techinical forum with the antenna and your proposed setup and see what the community as a whole thinks.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=25

Indiana627
04-28-11, 06:47 PM
I've never been to that forum - thanks for the tip. I'll have to post there when I have some more free time.

Rick0725
05-03-11, 08:34 PM
I've never been to that forum - thanks for the tip. I'll have to post there when I have some more free time.

I sugest the smallest winegard ch7-69 there. You would not overload once you split and distribute the signal. The little extra gain comes in handy in that regard.

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=03&p=HD7694P&d=Winegard-HD-7694P-High-Definition-VHFUHF-HDHD769-Series-TV-Antenna-(HD7694P)&c=TV Antennas&sku=

juventuz
05-03-11, 11:37 PM
I just noticed that TWC just added GolTV HD and Fox Soccer Channel HD to the lineup.

sustorm
05-04-11, 07:15 AM
anyone here have Adams Cable?

met_fan
05-04-11, 07:25 AM
anyone here have Adams Cable?

My parents do

jmoz2989
05-04-11, 08:54 AM
anyone here have Adams Cable?
Yea, what about it?

sustorm
05-04-11, 02:57 PM
I was wondering how they got their locals, I have a QAM tuner and get all the locals in HD but it seems like sometimes they pixelate and drop signal specially in the weather we have had lately, they dont get them with an antenna do they?

jmoz2989
05-04-11, 05:38 PM
I was wondering how they got their locals, I have a QAM tuner and get all the locals in HD but it seems like sometimes they pixelate and drop signal specially in the weather we have had lately, they dont get them with an antenna do they?
They do actually, probably because it works most of the time and is cheaper than running a direct line from the station. Same here in Wayne County, PA, lots of signal breakup during storms on Adams.

sustorm
05-05-11, 07:08 AM
thanks for the heads up, i will keep that in mind. I am not using a cable box with them and our non-QAM/HD channels have a lot of static, is that on their end or mine? Would it improve with a box?

jmoz2989
05-05-11, 07:02 PM
thanks for the heads up, i will keep that in mind. I am not using a cable box with them and our non-QAM/HD channels have a lot of static, is that on their end or mine? Would it improve with a box?
Adams does not have digital channels mapped aside analog channels, so no a box would not fix static. They are playing their cards very carefully with a transition to an all digital cable TV platform -- I am being told such a transition would *hopefully* be complete by mid to late 2012 by various management staff at the company. If the static is really bad on the upper 70s channels, that may affect local channels as they are routed on channels 81-83.

sustorm
05-06-11, 08:19 AM
Thanks for the information, now i know spending 12/month wont solve the static! There is a little static from the 50's thru the 70's. I cant comlain because its better than nothing :-)

bidger
05-16-11, 10:17 PM
Elmira locals testing placeholders up on DirecTV.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=193074

jdspencer
05-23-11, 12:53 PM
Are they live yet?

jdspencer
05-27-11, 06:54 AM
It seems that DirecTV has lost the Binghamton POP for the locals as all of them are off.

willisf
05-27-11, 05:07 PM
Any word on Elmira? Some neighbors have gotten a letter from DIRECTV saying
Elmira locals were on..

willisf
05-28-11, 03:30 PM
Ok I called,,Elmira locals coming soon.. I have a round dish, the girl said all
I needed was a new dish and my currant receivers would work.
Didn't even try to sell me HD..

Indiana627
06-07-11, 08:07 PM
Anyone know if Time Warner Cable Sports is available in the clear with QAM? I get the local channels that way as I'm just a RR subscriber.

jdspencer
06-07-11, 08:13 PM
I believe the only clear QAM on TWC are the local OTA channels.

ender868
06-08-11, 12:06 AM
Anyone know if Time Warner Cable Sports is available in the clear with QAM? I get the local channels that way as I'm just a RR subscriber.

The last time I scanned the clear QAM channels all I could receive were the locals, and if I can remember a couple of odd sd channels, mostly the locals.

ak3883
06-09-11, 11:57 AM
Looked at the lineup, TWC sports in the standard tier(same as CNN,ESPN, etc). So it's like any other channel in that tier, and pretty sure won't ever be "in the clear" If they moved it to lifeline it might be, but pretty sure they want to keep a channel like that exclusive to cable and force you to have a cable package to get it.

Indiana627
06-10-11, 09:44 AM
Well with the Calder Cup over, it doesn't really matter. TW can keep it to themselves. Thanks for checking.

juventuz
06-28-11, 08:02 PM
I know we've had a lot of bad thunderstorms this year, but the amount of times I've lost DirecTV service in the past couple months is getting a little ridiculous.

jdspencer
06-28-11, 08:17 PM
How often have you had outages and most importantly for how long?

Also, what are your signals strengths on all satellites and transponders? Having the highest values possible will alleviate loss of signal length of time.

I have seen some outages but, I wouldn't say it is ridiculously often.
Of course, this all depends on when you've trying to watch.

juventuz
07-01-11, 11:15 PM
I'd say we've lost programming about four to five times already. Signal strengths are good, but it doesn't matter when the storm is so bad. To be fair the longest we've lost it for is just over an hour, but it seems to happen when we're trying to DVR something.

jdspencer
07-02-11, 11:40 AM
You mention that your signal strengths are good. Exactly what are the values? I haven't had an outage last as long as an hour, usually a few minutes to maybe about 15.

The 99 and 103 sats are more susceptible to signal reduction.

The timing of storms is a problem. :)

bidger
07-07-11, 09:08 PM
I bit on a TWC special last Thurs. for TV and RR for $79/mo. for 12 months and an upgrade to Turbo until 2012. Install was yesterday. I was astounded when I called the local office and there was a prompt on the automated menu about outages of HD channels. I thought it was a temporary thing, but I was shocked at the number of channels labeled "Unavailable , Try Later" when I was channel surfing yesterday and today.

So local TWC customers, is this a frequent, ongoing situation? I'm going to suspend DirecTV at the end of my billing cycle later this month, but for a company that makes a big deal about rain fade on sats...well, I've never seen outages like that in my 13+ years with DirecTV.

brives81
07-08-11, 01:46 PM
Bidger....I have only had this problem a couple of times in the 8 years that I've subscribed to TWC/RR. Most times, a hard reboot of the box has taken care of it. Unplug it for 30 sec. then let it boot back up. And any outage that I've had (in Horseheads) has only lasted a short time (< 1 hour)

One great thing about TWC when you have a problem, is that they will send out certified TWC techs and they are very knowledgeable. I've had them come in and replace almost ALL of the coax in my house, brand new splitters, and all new compression fittings. All of my services have been working flawlessly for quite some time. And service calls and those replacements come without a charge.

FYI...I'm using a Cisco 8640HD DVR box...which has twice the Hard disk space as the Scientific Atlanta 8300 (DVR service @ TWC is 10.95/month so why not get more bang for your buck if you can). And for RR I have a Motorola Surfboard modem and can consistently get 16-18 Mbps down and I think I'm capped at 2-3 Mbps up (using www.speedtest.net). Can't beat that internet service!

I bit on a TWC special last Thurs. for TV and RR for $79/mo. for 12 months and an upgrade to Turbo until 2012. Install was yesterday. I was astounded when I called the local office and there was a prompt on the automated menu about outages of HD channels. I thought it was a temporary thing, but I was shocked at the number of channels labeled "Unavailable , Try Later" when I was channel surfing yesterday and today.

So local TWC customers, is this a frequent, ongoing situation? I'm going to suspend DirecTV at the end of my billing cycle later this month, but for a company that makes a big deal about rain fade on sats...well, I've never seen outages like that in my 13+ years with DirecTV.

minnow101
07-08-11, 03:43 PM
I bit on a TWC special last Thurs. for TV and RR for $79/mo. for 12 months and an upgrade to Turbo until 2012. Install was yesterday. I was astounded when I called the local office and there was a prompt on the automated menu about outages of HD channels. I thought it was a temporary thing, but I was shocked at the number of channels labeled when I was channel surfing yesterday and today.

So local TWC customers, is this a frequent, ongoing situation? I'm going to suspend DirecTV at the end of my billing cycle later this month, but for a company that makes a big deal about rain fade on sats...well, I've never seen outages like that in my 13+ years with DirecTV.

The HD outages come and go. Things will be fine for a few days/weeks then you'll get that "Unavailable , Try Later" message on several channels. I guess the good thing is that all of the HD channels also have a SD version so if there is something you want to watch you can fall back to SD channel. I set my DVR to record both feeds and then I'll delete the SD recording if the HD feed was available and recorded. I have to say that on average, I'll lose the HD feed once every 10 days or so.
What I really find aggravating is the inability to block channels from the guide. I don't particularly appreciate the kids being able to read the x-rated program description of "Buffy Does the Teen Next Door" on TWC pay per view adult channels. When I had Dish, I could block out all of the channels I didn't want/watch and you needed a PIN code to get to them in the guide. With TWC, you can set up the code but it's only for watching the channel and not for reading the program description.

bidger
07-08-11, 09:47 PM
Bidger....I have only had this problem a couple of times in the 8 years that I've subscribed to TWC/RR. Most times, a hard reboot of the box has taken care of it. Unplug it for 30 sec. then let it boot back up. And any outage that I've had (in Horseheads) has only lasted a short time (< 1 hour)

I would imagine a reboot would help re-establish communication between the box and the headend.

One great thing about TWC when you have a problem, is that they will send out certified TWC techs and they are very knowledgeable. I've had them come in and replace almost ALL of the coax in my house, brand new splitters, and all new compression fittings. All of my services have been working flawlessly for quite some time. And service calls and those replacements come without a charge.

The same tech who did my RR install did my digital cable install and was very efficient and knowledgeable.

FYI...I'm using a Cisco 8640HD DVR box...which has twice the Hard disk space as the Scientific Atlanta 8300 (DVR service @ TWC is 10.95/month so why not get more bang for your buck if you can).

I have a TiVo HD that I've been using for antenna, so I requested a cable card and tuning adapter to be brought for the install. They scrounged up a cable card, but no adapter. They next day UPS one to me today, but I couldn't get it to function, so I'll have to get someone to come out.

And for RR I have a Motorola Surfboard modem and can consistently get 16-18 Mbps down and I think I'm capped at 2-3 Mbps up (using www.speedtest.net). Can't beat that internet service!

I have a SB901 modem with wireless G capability. The bolded part is what I can't deny. I waited for someone to compete for broadband in this area, but as far as contenders it's been a no show.

The HD outages come and go. Things will be fine for a few days/weeks then you'll get that "Unavailable , Try Later" message on several channels. I guess the good thing is that all of the HD channels also have a SD version so if there is something you want to watch you can fall back to SD channel. I set my DVR to record both feeds and then I'll delete the SD recording if the HD feed was available and recorded. I have to say that on average, I'll lose the HD feed once every 10 days or so.
What I really find aggravating is the inability to block channels from the guide. I don't particularly appreciate the kids being able to read the x-rated program description of "Buffy Does the Teen Next Door" on TWC pay per view adult channels. When I had Dish, I could block out all of the channels I didn't want/watch and you needed a PIN code to get to them in the guide. With TWC, you can set up the code but it's only for watching the channel and not for reading the program description.

I have a Scientific-Atlanta box, it's free so I can't complain, but I didn't like the fact that I can't take channels out of the guide that I don't receive or I just want to filter out.

Thanks for the feedback guys. We'll see how this shakes out.

brives81
07-10-11, 10:47 PM
I have a SB901 modem with wireless G capability. The bolded part is what I can't deny. I waited for someone to compete for broadband in this area, but as far as contenders it's been a no show.

I think I have the 501 model because I wanted to control my own wireless network ( I won't let anyone touch any of my computers or network setup other than me). I also needed a router with gigabit ports to run my NAS hard drive for streaming video and file storge. I have a simultaneous dual band Wireless G/N router.

BTW...we've met in person once when you worked at a certain electronics retailer that is no longer open. I'm a little surprised to see you make the switch to TWC. I've been following your posts for the last 5 years now and you're a die hard DTV customer. I hope it all works out for you!

bidger
07-11-11, 10:18 AM
BTW...we've met in person once when you worked at a certain electronics retailer that is no longer open. I'm a little surprised to see you make the switch to TWC. I've been following your posts for the last 5 years now and you're a die hard DTV customer. I hope it all works out for you!

Cool, thanks for sharing that.

It was probably late 2007 or 2008 when we talked about TWC. At the time they didn't have an awful lot as far as HD and I was picking up CBS and FOX in HD out of NYC with DirecTV, my sticking point when a TWC rep paid a visit in the Spring of 2006. My previous dealings with TWC left a sour taste in my mouth, but times change. One could make the argument that since deploying Switched Digital Video, TWC has done a much better job of adding HD than DirecTV. After having Roadrunner installed, I just couldn't envision going back to DSL. When DirecTV canceled the tuner card for Windows Media Center, my personal fave DVR, it was a setback as far as I was concerned. You now have both the Ceton and the soon-to-be-released Silicon Dust HD Homerun Prime Cable Card-capable devices for W7 MC integration. I tried to follow the DirecTV "Nomad" thread @ DBSTalk, but I gave up. Even if they do come up with something, there's still the issue of quality HSI solution. Fact is I felt that when I had RR installed, it was only a matter of time before I at least gave TWC a spin.

Speaking of which, I found a TWC Cable Card support # on TCF and, after switching out a faulty RF cable that shipped with the tuning adapter, I now have all the non-OnDemand HD channels on the HD TiVo. And the reboot suggested for the SA box worked. I'm still evaluating the difference between DirecTV and TWC HD. So far I don't see huge difference on the cable-specific HD channels (ESPN-HD, A&E-HD, etc.), but the fact that WYDC stretches SD content makes me want to wretch. Certainly not TWCs fault. I still like DirecTV, but they need to come up with, or partner with another company, that gives them a viable HSI solution.

Thanks again for the assistance.

I want my HD
08-11-11, 11:53 AM
Anyone heard anything about when DTV locals for Elmira area are supposed to go live?

jdspencer
08-11-11, 12:24 PM
The Excel spreadsheet provided by DBSTalk member GCT still shows "Service Due 2011".

bidger
08-12-11, 09:30 AM
I wonder if securing a deal with WYDC (FOX) is the hold up.

bolus14
08-23-11, 01:56 PM
I just got DTV installed last week.

ABC, CBS, and ABC are now available on DTV. FOX still is not, the tech that did my install said most likely November. Time Warner apparently wasn't allowing them access saying they had full rights to its broadcasts. The FCC had to step in and force TW to allow others access to them, so now DTV is going through setting up their end for it.

For most people in the Elmira/Horseheads/Corning area if you keep Road Runner for internet you'll be able to pick up the true locals, WYDC, WETM, etc through the QAM tuner in your TV. Time Warner doesn't configure the traps to block these, at least from the people I have talked to.

bolus14
08-23-11, 02:03 PM
If you plan to keep RR do something along these lines when you cancel your cale. Ask the TW rep what the monthly charge for RR will be, they'll tell you $54.95, then say I heard there's currently a $35/month promotion can I get that. They'll tell you that once they put the trap on the line at your house they can modify the montlhy RR price.

jdspencer
08-27-11, 06:47 PM
Anyone know when WBNG will be upgrading their studio cameras? Right now their SD newscasts look absolutely horrible on an HDTV. Can't they at least install higher definition SD cameras? Heck, Ch 34 newscasts look better.

Indiana627
08-29-11, 02:25 PM
Yeah somebody needs to tell the management at WBNG that it's 2011 and not 1981.

jdspencer
08-29-11, 02:38 PM
They should at least upgrade their weather graphics. It looks like it was made with a crayon. :)

Trying to keep track of local news during Irene was awful. I might as well have listened to the radio.

parkerNY
09-08-11, 08:54 PM
I recently cut the cord with Time Warner and have decided to just get by with what I can pull in OTA.

I'm watching the NFL on NBC tonight and wondering why it's being cropped down to 4:3. I understand that we get NBC as a sub channel of the ABC station here (ABC: 34-1 and NBC: 34-2) and that's why it is 720p and not 1080i, but is it always cropped to 4:3 as well?

jdspencer
09-08-11, 09:02 PM
Actually the channel is 34-2 and normally is in 16:9.

Maybe a call to the station can fix it. Or that's the way they are getting it.

parkerNY
09-08-11, 10:10 PM
Actually the channel is 34-2 and normally is in 16:9.

Maybe a call to the station can fix it. Or that's the way they are getting it.

Thanks, 34-2 not 43-2, brain fart. Good to know that the picture on 34-2 is usually 16:9, seemed strange for it to be in 720p resolution but cropped down to 4:3.

jdspencer
09-08-11, 10:18 PM
Local productions like the news is 4:3.

bidger
09-08-11, 11:13 PM
Came home to watch the NFL kickoff game. To my horror, but not so much shock, the entire game was SD. Nice going WETM. :mad:

steveendicott
09-09-11, 04:25 AM
They had the closings across the bottom and unlike their 'sister' station - WIVT had Wipeout in HD with closings across the bottom - appear unable to show the closings in HD. It appeared they discovered the closings were covering the score line so they took down the closings but never reverted the game back to HD. The pre-game show was also shown on NFL Network and it was in HD on NFL Network but not on WBGH - so the 'source' material was available in HD.

bidger
09-09-11, 10:23 AM
Thanks Steve. I didn't really pay attention to any scrawls. When I saw it was SD I just FFd every 15 mins. to see if HD had come up. It was unwatchable as far as I'm concerned.

brives81
09-09-11, 09:11 PM
Thanks Steve. I didn't really pay attention to any scrawls. When I saw it was SD I just FFd every 15 mins. to see if HD had come up. It was unwatchable as far as I'm concerned.

Bidger, WETM said that there was damage to some fiber in the Athens, PA area due to flooding which caused their HD feed to go down. Analog was out for a bit this week too. They ended up streaming the feed from a computer. There were times when it would freeze and you could see the media player come up and a mouse would move and they would press play.

I'm assuming the local affiliate in Binghamton had the same problem. As of tonight, their HD feed still is not up, I'm assuming they still can't repair the fiber at this point in Athens. They are just passing SD content on the HD channel.

And just FYI, apparently you could have streamed the game from NBC's website and could have connected via HDMI if you had that available to get a good feed to your TV.

bidger
09-10-11, 02:23 PM
Didn't mean to come off as flippant when so many people were affected by the flooding. Honestly, I wasn't aware of the situation and just thought it was on WETMs end. I didn't make it home until after midnight so streaming wouldn't have worked

steveendicott
09-12-11, 07:18 PM
So NBC channel has a flood related excuse from the other night for SD picture. I don't think WBNG has any excuse except crappy hardware/software - you can barely make out the score for the US Open Men's Final tonight - on an HD channel! Either they should take their closings scrawl down during the match or update their stuff so they can have the scrawl in HD (channel 34 has HD scrawl). It has been that way for as long as they have been HD - and they used to be the 'premier' broadcast channel in the Southern Tier.

jdspencer
09-12-11, 07:28 PM
Yeah. WBNG can't superimpose their banner on an HD show with going down to SD. Really stupid. Thank God I have CBS DNS on DirecTV.

Indiana627
09-13-11, 05:59 PM
I'm not from here originally but my wife is and she commented during the flood coverage (the first time we've watched WBNG news in a long time) how bad they've gotten compared to when she was growing up. We laughed out loud a few times at how bad their coverage was. It seems their idea of news coverage is having viewers upload photos to younews and then they show them onscreen. Really???

jdspencer
09-13-11, 07:14 PM
And what's really bad is that they have weeknight newscasts at 5:00, 5:30, and 6:00 with many repeat segments. It is really pathetic because they were the first TV station in our area. I only watch local news if something big is going on like the latest weather problems.

hevan49
09-23-11, 07:46 AM
Does anyone on this forum use a dtv pal dvr? If you do do you receive tvgos data from WBNG?

jdspencer
09-23-11, 06:11 PM
Instead of looking at the FCC sites, I thought I'd ask if anyone has read or heard anything on whether the Binghamton area is going to get an HD version of The CW?

The SD version that is on the sub-channel with WBNG just plain sucks.

hiperco
10-04-11, 09:24 AM
Anyone here using Windows 7 MCE and clearQAM on Time Warner? I'm having major issues with WICZ Fox 40 (and possibly WIVT ABC 34). I can't watch them live for more than a few seconds and recordings crash at various intervals. I've tried three computers and two different tuners (HDHomerun and ATI USB) with similar results.

ak3883
10-05-11, 11:35 AM
hiperco-

I have set my parents up with a USB tuner stick(generic brand) using Win7 MCE and clearQAM and have had no issues with any of the locals in HD.

Are you sure it's not a weak signal? Can you try hooking it up to cable from another room in the house? If it happens with more than one PC/tuner then that seems to put the fault on the incoming cable signal.

hiperco
10-05-11, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the reply. Have you confirmed recently that fox 40 has no issues watching or recording?

hiperco
10-08-11, 09:16 AM
If someone using Win 7 MCE and clearQAM has a chance, can you record football tomorrow on Fox 40 and see if the recording completes? You don't have to actually watch it ;)

shovelhead13746
10-10-11, 07:28 PM
Does anyone on this forum use a dtv pal dvr? If you do do you receive tvgos data from WBNG?

I use the DTVPAL DVR and almost never receive any tvgos data from WBNG. Often I dont get any psp info for that channel either.

If I spin my antenna towards Wilkes Barre or Syracuse it will load from either city.

The DTVPAL DVR is a great piece of equipment, I wish I was able to get a couple more, but alas they stopped making them and cut off all firmware updates....:(

hevan49
10-11-11, 06:36 PM
It's a shame WBNG refuses to even try to fix the problem. I am surprised you can receive a signal from Syracuse and Scranton.

shovelhead13746
10-11-11, 08:20 PM
It's a shame WBNG refuses to even try to fix the problem. I am surprised you can receive a signal from Syracuse and Scranton.
Im pretty high on a hill, and use a UHF antenna only. It seems to have no problem with VHF 7 and 8 locally. On foggy mornings I will wake up to find that the DTVPAL has auto added a few Philly and Harrisburg stations. But they drop right off as the fog lifts...

hevan49
10-14-11, 03:07 PM
Rovi emailed me to say they have confirmed that their data is passing over the air from both WBNG and WTVH.

willisf
10-16-11, 07:58 PM
Directv has Elmira locals up in testing.
18 WETM NBC
38 WENY ABC
37 WENYDT2 CBS
38 WENYDT3 CW
39 WJKP MTN
48 WYDC FOX
63 PBS

jdspencer
10-20-11, 07:47 PM
Are they live?

hiperco
10-22-11, 11:06 AM
Well Fox 40 and ABC 34 are still causing me major issues (OTA and clearQAM). I'd really appreciate it if someone with MCE tuning local channels could check it out on your end.

FOX 40 clearQAM: Recordings crash
FOX 40 OTA: Live TV is fine. BUT recording impossible it says "No Signal".

ABC 34 clearQAM & OTA: Picture freezes after about 2 seconds and the program timer along the bottom counts up 2-3 seconds per actual second.

This is across 2 PC's and 3 different tuners!

bidger
10-25-11, 08:19 PM
Are they live?

I was told this evening that those channels, WYDC included, will be live tomorrow. It makes sense since DirecTV seems to like doing channel roll-outs on Wednesdays.

I want my HD
10-27-11, 08:01 AM
Can anyone verify if they have gone live. That way I can call and get locals and drop my waivers. Thx:)

jdspencer
10-27-11, 08:16 AM
According to a thread on DBSTalk they are now live.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2886460#post2886460

hevan49
10-27-11, 11:11 AM
The following is Rovi's resoloution to my TVGOS problem. "We have no complaints from any consumers with TVGOS software devices who are reporting a problem. From that one other case 5 years ago, it sounds like there may be an issue with the DTV Pal / Echostar Guide reading the signal WBNG is sending out.

Unfortunately that is an issue for Echostar. There is not much we can do."
I explained to them that TVGOS from Syracuse works but they feel the problem is with my DTV PAL dvr not tvgos or WBNG.

hiperco
10-30-11, 10:32 AM
Well Fox 40 and ABC 34 are still causing me major issues (OTA and clearQAM). I'd really appreciate it if someone with MCE tuning local channels could check it out on your end.

FOX 40 clearQAM: Recordings crash
FOX 40 OTA: Live TV is fine. BUT recording impossible it says "No Signal".

ABC 34 clearQAM & OTA: Picture freezes after about 2 seconds and the program timer along the bottom counts up 2-3 seconds per actual second.

This is across 2 PC's and 3 different tuners!

Anybody? :(

jdspencer
10-30-11, 06:48 PM
Have you tries an MCE Forum?
A quick search found several, here's one http://forum.mceguide.co.za/

hiperco
10-31-11, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the reply, but I'm trying to prove that this problem is happening to others using MCE tuning these specific channels. I guess I'm the only one in Binghamton using MCE :(

jdspencer
10-31-11, 06:57 PM
FYI, if it helps, I have no problem recording OTA using my HR24/AM21 tuner.

hiperco
10-31-11, 10:08 PM
FYI, if it helps, I have no problem recording OTA using my HR24/AM21 tuner.

My Dish 211k has no problem either. It seems there is something about the stream that totally confuses a PC. I also have a problem with clearQAM but OTA is immediate.

bidger
11-07-11, 07:37 PM
As I stated before in this thread my DirecTV programming is currently suspended, but they sent both an e-mail and physical mail to me re. locals and I notice FOX is missing. Anyone else experiencing that with the locals launch?

jdspencer
11-07-11, 07:48 PM
What does the DirecTV website show for your locals?

I want my HD
11-08-11, 11:37 AM
As I stated before in this thread my DirecTV programming is currently suspended, but they sent both an e-mail and physical mail to me re. locals and I notice FOX is missing. Anyone else experiencing that with the locals launch?

Nope as of last night my FOX was working.

raffiafinati
11-21-11, 12:38 PM
For all of those in the Corning Elmira area can you now confirm that all the 4 major network locals are up and in HD on DirecTV?

Considering that the answer is yes my next question is other than price what are the major reasons for making the switch from Time Warner? For me big sports packages would not be a reason to switch.
After doing the math it is obvious that there is major cost savings the first year, but after that the savings for DirecTV become much smaller. There must be other reasons people are making the switch.

Thanks

I want my HD
11-21-11, 02:32 PM
For me personally it's the picture quality. TW tends to compress alot of there HD and it pixelates alot. That's just my 2 cents.

bidger
11-22-11, 11:16 AM
...other than price what are the major reasons for making the switch from Time Warner? For me big sports packages would not be a reason to switch.
After doing the math it is obvious that there is major cost savings the first year, but after that the savings for DirecTV become much smaller.

Really no different than TWC in that respect in that you're given a discount rate for the first year before reality kicks in. TWC doesn't require a commitment though, unless they paid your ETF to switch from satellite.

There must be other reasons people are making the switch.

Equipment costs tend to be lower with DirecTV. I like the fact that other than a mirroring fee for additional receivers/DVRs, there are no equipment charges on the monthly statement. Yeah, I don't own my DVRs, but it was a very low upfront charge, free for the first and $99 for the second HD DVR. I use DirecTV2PC to watch recorded shows in the bedroom @ no extra charge. I also like the fact that when DirecTV deployed MPEG 4 HD they used the same channel alignment so I didn't have to re-learn where HD feeds of the channels were located. As a general rule the DirecTV equipment tends to be more advanced than what cable will provide.

In fairness TWC offers something DirecTV, or DISH for that matter, doesn't at this time: a quality High Speed Internet solution. Also, TWC has done a really good job of adding HD channels. You know what would be huge? If after doing away with their analog cable feed TWC allowed you to use the QAM tuner on your HD set to pick up the standard cable channels in HD. You'd only need a box if you want PPV, On Demand, Sports packages, and premium channels. But you'd get A&E-HD, History-HD, E!-HD, etc. without having pay for a box in every room. IMO that would crush satellite. Don't expect it though since they love the extra revenue the boxes generate.

As I've stated prior in the thread I'm currently under a promo period w/ TWC for Surf & View while my DirecTV service is suspended. I'm about four months in and I'm still on the fence about it. I love Roadrunner, but dealing with a TiVo HD and tuning adapter for SDV channels hasn't been painless. Averaging about one or two missed recordings a month, while my DirecTV DVRs would only cut out in severe cloud cover, which didn't occur anywhere near monthly, despite what the cable ads state. In short, if you don't feel compelled to switch to satellite, then don't. Personally, I just found TWC to be very much stuck in the their ways over a decade ago when I made my switch. IOW, they had a "take it or leave it" attitude. I left at that time, but the fact that no other quality HSI solutions exist brought me back...for now.

ak3883
11-22-11, 11:49 AM
Also on installation, cable tends to be a lot cheaper. Directv charges an arm and a leg for installation if you cannot commit to two years. Every one of their promos requires a 2 year contract. I think the charges are not quite as bad if you only do 1 year. If you own a house and have a stable job, then great but if not keep this in mind.

bidger
11-22-11, 12:44 PM
Also on installation, cable tends to be a lot cheaper. Directv charges an arm and a leg for installation if you cannot commit to two years.

Yeah, they're waiving the equipment and install fees if you commit to 24 month consecutive programming service with them. If you don't want the commitment then you'll pay those charges. I don't know why you'd even consider if you weren't looking at it as a long term solution.

Every one of their promos requires a 2 year contract. I think the charges are not quite as bad if you only do 1 year.

Wasn't aware you had a choice. Last I recall it was eighteen months for install of SD receivers and twenty-four for advanced (DVR, HD, and HD DVR) equipment. Can't imagine the majority of installs are SD these days.

If you own a house and have a stable job, then great but if not keep this in mind.

Pretty good rule of thumb before taking on any commitment.

willisf
12-07-11, 07:11 PM
Anyone else notice Elmira CW is very dark ?

jdspencer
12-07-11, 07:23 PM
Binghamton's CW looks fine. Of course it's SD.

willisf
12-10-11, 06:47 PM
Alot of prime time shows are super dark.. I emailed weny.. no answer as of yet

jdspencer
01-02-12, 10:28 AM
TWC drops MSG and MSG+. (http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20120101/NEWS01/201010338/Time-Warner-Cable-drops-MSG-sports-networks?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

ak3883
01-04-12, 12:11 PM
I know it's not MSG/MSG+ but you guys got a nice consolation prize, free sports tier. Did they unlock NBA LP/NHL Center Ice too?

I read they also put NBA Network and NHL network on(so on analog cable as well) in lieu of MSG and MSG+?

juventuz
01-08-12, 01:20 PM
I noticed that thy also put up the NBCSports channel in HD too.

willisf
01-11-12, 07:43 PM
Anyone with Directv have the new guide yet?

Indiana627
01-11-12, 08:17 PM
Yup it was downloaded yesterday. Didn't you get it?

willisf
01-11-12, 09:54 PM
nope.. i have 2 hr24's.. no update

Indiana627
01-12-12, 12:00 PM
Strange. D* has been pushing the software by DMA, so I thought everyone in the Binghamton DMA would have gotten it yesterday.

willisf
01-12-12, 02:11 PM
I am in Elmira DMA.. was listed as same day as Binghampton

I want my HD
01-13-12, 11:15 AM
I'm in Elmira DMA and I got it last weekend

juventuz
01-13-12, 11:16 PM
Strange. D* has been pushing the software by DMA, so I thought everyone in the Binghamton DMA would have gotten it yesterday.

We received the guide update, which I really like, before new years. I think that Thursday before.

Yaemish
02-06-12, 07:33 PM
Did anyone get 5.1 audio for the Super Bowl? I only got stereo sound vai DirecTV and over the air as well.

bidger
02-06-12, 07:51 PM
Are you in Elmira? If so WYDC is the only local broadcaster offering 5.1 audio.

Yaemish
02-07-12, 09:45 AM
In Binghamton. Its 2012, how can they not be pumping out 5.1 audio?

Indiana627
02-07-12, 12:07 PM
Because it's Binghamton.

Ken H
02-17-12, 02:55 PM
From The New York TimesTime Warner Cable and MSG Resolve Dispute

By HOWARD BECK and RICHARD SANDOMIR

The 48-day standoff between the MSG Network and Time Warner Cable ended Friday, according to two people aware of the resolution who were not authorized to speak publicly.

The end of the impasse will be announced Friday afternoon by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and executives of both companies. A settlement had been urged by Eric T. Schneiderman, the state’s attorney general. The governor’s intervention in the past 24 hours with James L. Dolan, executive chairman of Madison Square Garden, and Glenn Britt, chief executive of Time Warner Cable, accelerated the agreement.

The blackout deprived many Knicks fans around the state of seeing much of the rapid rise to stardom of point guard Jeremy Lin — as well as the continued success of the New York Rangers.

The impasse began Jan. 1 with the companies disagreeing angrily over what Time Warner Cable would pay to continue carrying MSG. Time Warner Cable, which serves more than two million customers, insisted that MSG reneged on a proposal for a 6.5 percent increase late last year and then demanded a 54 percent hike. MSG has never discussed figures publicly but said Time Warner’s were not accurate.

Durango_52
02-25-12, 12:02 PM
I am in Binghamton, NY and am also having problems with TimeWarner Clear QAM for ABC primarily, although the problem may also occur if I am trying to record ABC and another station at the same time. I don't record a lot of Fox shows, so I can't attest to a problem with that station.

I am using WMC to record 12 shows a week. Everything worked great when I was only recording analog signals. However, since the switch to Clear QAM the ABC shows frequently record for only the first minute of the show. Occasionally, the recording may also stop later in the show. In those instances sometimes it resumes and sometimes it does not. The problem occurs on both my HTPCs (Windows 7 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit) and both Hauppauge tuners (WinTV-HVR-2250 and WinTV-HVR-1250), The 1250 with only a single tuner more frequently recovers from the crash and resumes recording.

The Event Log on my primary HTPC running Win7 32-bit consistently reports the following error:

Faulting Application Name: ehRecver.exe Version 6.1.7601.17514
Faulting Module Name: psisdecddll Version 6.6.7601.17669
Exception Code: 0xc000005

Event Log Online Help does not provide any meaningful assistance. I have Googled extensively for a solution without success. I feel your pain.

Greygeek
03-07-12, 05:37 PM
Anyone else seeing occasional (every few minutes at times) picture freezing & breakup on WBNG 12 via DirecTV? I'm getting it on all three receivers and only CH12 ... every other channel is 100%
Been seeing this since last week ... hoping to confirm with someone else before calling them.:confused:


Followup: Finally contacted DTV ... they know of the issue and are trying to resolve it.

hiperco
03-08-12, 08:46 PM
I am in Binghamton, NY and am also having problems with TimeWarner Clear QAM for ABC primarily, although the problem may also occur if I am trying to record ABC and another station at the same time. I don't record a lot of Fox shows, so I can't attest to a problem with that station.

I am using WMC to record 12 shows a week. Everything worked great when I was only recording analog signals. However, since the switch to Clear QAM the ABC shows frequently record for only the first minute of the show. Occasionally, the recording may also stop later in the show. In those instances sometimes it resumes and sometimes it does not. The problem occurs on both my HTPCs (Windows 7 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit) and both Hauppauge tuners (WinTV-HVR-2250 and WinTV-HVR-1250), The 1250 with only a single tuner more frequently recovers from the crash and resumes recording.

The Event Log on my primary HTPC running Win7 32-bit consistently reports the following error:

Faulting Application Name: ehRecver.exe Version 6.1.7601.17514
Faulting Module Name: psisdecddll Version 6.6.7601.17669
Exception Code: 0xc000005

Event Log Online Help does not provide any meaningful assistance. I have Googled extensively for a solution without success. I feel your pain.

Windows 8 also has this problem for me on FOX, same behavior as I explained previously on Windows 7. C'mon Microsoft!

Greygeek
03-11-12, 08:26 AM
Anyone else seeing occasional (every few minutes at times) picture freezing & breakup on WBNG 12 via DirecTV? I'm getting it on all three receivers and only CH12 ... every other channel is 100%
Been seeing this since last week ... hoping to confirm with someone else before calling them.:confused:


Followup: Finally contacted DTV ... they know of the issue and are trying to resolve it.

Now seeing this on all Binghamton locals ... sure hope they fix it soon :mad:

btnunya
03-17-12, 05:36 PM
Does anyone know why the HD quality of WBNG so abysmal? I'm watching the tournament right now and the screen is consistently blurry. At first I thought it might be compression over TW cable, but it's bad even OTA.

Indiana627
03-19-12, 12:16 PM
Don't know the exact reason, but probably they have old/low quality HD equipment. They are very behind the times in technology IMHO. Look at their 1980s set and inability to run a scroll in 16x9.

Durango_52
03-19-12, 05:29 PM
Windows 8 also has this problem for me on FOX, same behavior as I explained previously on Windows 7. C'mon Microsoft!

Hiperco, I'm thinking it may be a TWC Clear QAM problem rather than Microsoft. I have had a TWC technician out to check their signal and after some adjustments he said it was OK. However, it did not fix the problem and he didn't test to see if there were signal drop outs, which is what I think may be happening. The signal drops, the tuner gets confused, the show doesn't get recorded. Have you had TWC look at your signal?

hiperco
03-19-12, 09:16 PM
Hiperco, I'm thinking it may be a TWC Clear QAM problem rather than Microsoft. I have had a TWC technician out to check their signal and after some adjustments he said it was OK. However, it did not fix the problem and he didn't test to see if there were signal drop outs, which is what I think may be happening. The signal drops, the tuner gets confused, the show doesn't get recorded. Have you had TWC look at your signal?

Nope, definitely a windows problem. Replicated by the folks at Silicondust (makers of the HD Homerun etc). I sent them a full channel stream capture, they also were able to see the crash, although they couldn't see anything "wrong" with the signal and made some changes to the channel table that fixed it. They also told me not to get my hopes up, since Microsoft isn't likely to try to fix it. :(

Durango_52
03-22-12, 11:00 AM
Nope, definitely a windows problem. Replicated by the folks at Silicondust (makers of the HD Homerun etc). I sent them a full channel stream capture, they also were able to see the crash, although they couldn't see anything "wrong" with the signal and made some changes to the channel table that fixed it. They also told me not to get my hopes up, since Microsoft isn't likely to try to fix it. :(

So are you saying the Silicondust was able to fix the problems you were having?

As for it being a Microsoft problem and one they are unlikely to address, that's very sad. :( However, it makes me wonder why there aren't a lot more complaints from other users. Are there really that few people using media center? It's a great product aside from this annoying problem.

Indiana627
03-23-12, 12:22 PM
So my wife started recording Anderson at 9AM weekdays on WBNG and I was stunned when I walked in and noticed it was in HD. Is this a CBS network show (like The View on ABC) and that's how WBNG is airing it in HD (I don't think so since it is aired on the Fox affiliate in Syracuse)? Or has WBNG added the ability to air syndicated HD?

btnunya
03-26-12, 08:02 PM
Does anyone know what happened to WBGH/WIVT? How long were they down? I only noticed their absence when I tried to tune in for golf yesterday, so it was at least 24 hours.

jdspencer
05-12-12, 01:38 PM
When will our local Binghamton channels update their studios to HD.
Right now watching their newscasts is quite painful.
The sets are terrible looking.

go2cdmb
05-12-12, 03:19 PM
Hey, we are in Elmira and will be getting an install soon with 1 hd box and one hddvr. What hddvr and what regular hd box should I ask for? Anything else I should know or ask for? Thanks in advance. We have an Onkyo txnr709 and a Samsung 55d8000. Thanks in advance!!

jdspencer
05-12-12, 04:30 PM
Unfortunately, you may only get what's on the truck.

However, with a new install, you may get the HR24 DVR and the H25 HD receiver.
I'll also assume that you'll get the Slimline SL3 (SWM) dish. This will then allow for Whole House DVR install. This will allow the HR25 to access programs recorded on the HR24. Make sure they also install the cinema connection kit. This is an adapter to allow the receiver to get to the internet for the On Demand content.

You might be interested in the new HR34 which has 5 tuners.

FYI, in case you haven't found them yet, here are two good forums for DirecTV.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/
and
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=82

Your questions will be answered there.

ak3883
05-15-12, 11:20 AM
When will our local Binghamton channels update their studios to HD.
Right now watching their newscasts is quite painful.
The sets are terrible looking.

Seeing as WBNG didn't get HD until the 2007 superbowl, I'd say 2015 at the earliest.

bidger
05-15-12, 08:31 PM
When will our local Binghamton channels update their studios to HD.
Right now watching their newscasts is quite painful.
The sets are terrible looking.

I did talk to a WETM exec the day before locals went live on DirecTV and took the opportunity to ask when they would start converting their studios to shoot local shows in HD and he replied it would be a two year time frame. If that's true then WENY would be forced to follow suit, if they weren't planning to already. Basically, he said that, just like SD TVs aren't readily available at retail, the same is true for the equipment for the studios.

jdspencer
05-15-12, 08:44 PM
I assume you meant HD equipment for studios is in short supply, right?

bidger
05-16-12, 07:44 AM
I assume you meant HD equipment for studios is in short supply, right?

Nope, he said that it's just like if you went looking for a SD TV @ retail, SD equipment for the studios is just as scarce.

DTV_Engineer_Syr
05-16-12, 07:53 AM
It's true that analog SD broadcast gear is quite a bit less common now. The main reason you don't see a lot of new SD digital gear is that generally speaking most HD equipment can run in SD modes -- particularly infrastructure equipment like routers, switchers, and distribution amps. Most professional HD cameras can also be set to produce an SD output. So I'm not sure exactly what the point of the comment was; there's certainly no shortage of equipment that can operate in either SD or HD as needed, and the price on HD equipment has plummeted in the last two or three years. Nowadays, even if you are replacing a single component in an SD plant, it would be most unlikely to buy anything other than an HD-capable device.

jdspencer
05-16-12, 02:02 PM
Fine, then these stations should upgrade to HD, right?
Of course, $$$ is the problem.
But, to brighten up their studios would only require some new lighting equipment, or is that only SD too? :)

DTV_Engineer_Syr
05-16-12, 02:13 PM
Fine, then these stations should upgrade to HD, right?
Of course, $$$ is the problem.
But, to brighten up their studios would only require some new lighting equipment, or is that only SD too? :)

HD does make bad lighting more evident, but there's no magic to the equipment needed to make a subject look good. One of the unfortunate side effects of cameras getting so much better over the years is that they will tolerate really poor lighting technique that would have been rejected out of hand back in the image orthicon / vidicon / plumbicon tube days. The picture might not look very good, but there is a picture, and the camera pickup devices aren't being damaged.

In many instances, several hundred dollars worth of well chosen paint for the set, careful deployment of existing lighting fixtures, and good choice of clothing and makeup will make an enormous difference without replacing a single piece of equipment.

jdspencer
05-16-12, 02:38 PM
Exactly. And high def cameras also make the people look old. :)

DTV_Engineer_Syr
05-16-12, 02:45 PM
Exactly. And high def cameras also make the people look old. :)

Heck: just seeing these itty bitty HD cameras makes guys like me (who go back to the days when a camera weighed hundreds of pounds and needed several racks of support equipment) feel old. :D

At least then, the cameras were a local product (our GE PE-350s were made here in Syracuse).

jackets
05-17-12, 01:21 PM
I did talk to a WETM exec the day before locals went live on DirecTV and took the opportunity to ask when they would start converting their studios to shoot local shows in HD and he replied it would be a two year time frame. If that's true then WENY would be forced to follow suit, if they weren't planning to already. Basically, he said that, just like SD TVs aren't readily available at retail, the same is true for the equipment for the studios.

WENY News upgraded to HD a couple of weeks ago. It is WETM who needs to follow suit.

brives81
05-17-12, 03:01 PM
You are aware that WENY News upgraded to HD a couple of weeks ago, right?

you beat me to the comment. WENY did switch their local new broadcast to HD. I'm not sure if it's coming through that way over Dish or DTV, but it is over the air and on TWC in HD.

jackets
05-18-12, 09:01 AM
you beat me to the comment. WENY did switch their local new broadcast to HD. I'm not sure if it's coming through that way over Dish or DTV, but it is over the air and on TWC in HD.

WENY always makes sure to say that they are in High Definition at the start of each newscast.

bidger
05-18-12, 09:16 PM
WENY News upgraded to HD a couple of weeks ago. It is WETM who needs to follow suit.

Thanks for the heads up. Kudos to WENY to beating everyone else to the punch. WENY CBS-HD for antenna viewers would be a nice follow-up.