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UncD2000
03-20-06, 11:14 AM
The new ADS channels, as viewed on my 6412, show some compression artifacts. I don't know when, but eventually Comcast will stop transmitting the analog version of these channels, and we'll need an STB or DVR to view them. At least this will make the vacated channels available for HD (4 or 5 HD channels per 6 MHz slot if they also convert to MPEG4). I didn't realize that there is currently no HD space available until Comcast had to drop INHD2 to make room for UHD during the Olympics.

gregger77
03-20-06, 12:21 PM
ADS = Analog to Digital Simulcast
I'm guessing you pay for Basic + an HD box + Cable Modem? That combination of services allows analog channels up to 99 to "seap" through. Due to ADS, Comcast is now able to filter the channels you don't pay for - when you use the STB or CableCard.

I'm paying for Basic + CableCard (in place of an HD box; it was "either/or") + high-speed internet (using my own cable modem).

HD Rookie
03-20-06, 01:41 PM
I'm paying for Basic + CableCard (in place of an HD box; it was "either/or") + high-speed internet (using my own cable modem).
Well, at least you know why CableCard doesn't give you more channels and you don't have to setup any further comcast appointments.

memnoch
03-21-06, 01:59 PM
I didn't realize that there is currently no HD space available until Comcast had to drop INHD2 to make room for UHD during the Olympics.
does this mean chicago will be unlikely to get ESPN2-HD soon? if that is the case, i better start calling Dish then; World Cup is just a couple months away...

UncD2000
03-21-06, 06:40 PM
Once ADS is implemented in a Comcast system, there doesn't seem to be much bandwidth left for anything. Maybe a few SD channels could be squeezed in somewhere, but probably not another HD channel. It looks like there is some space at the very top of their available frequency spectrum, but they may not want to put an important HD service up that high.

gregger77
03-22-06, 09:56 AM
Well, at least you know why CableCard doesn't give you more channels and you don't have to setup any further comcast appointments.

Yup, now I know why. Thanks!

As for the Comcast appointments...well, I'll ALWAYS have those, right? Just part of being a customer. In fact, as I write this, there are TWO Comcast trucks in my driveway, while techs try to figure out why I haven't had High-Speed since the weekend!

One little bonus: HBO HD is coming in free right now. Is this a sales promo?

HD Rookie
03-22-06, 11:02 AM
Yup, now I know why. Thanks!

As for the Comcast appointments...well, I'll ALWAYS have those, right? Just part of being a customer. In fact, as I write this, there are TWO Comcast trucks in my driveway, while techs try to figure out why I haven't had High-Speed since the weekend!

One little bonus: HBO HD is coming in free right now. Is this a sales promo?
Yes. Also, I think a showtime freebee will begin in a couple weeks. I got a message on my stb a few weeks back.

andyross63
03-22-06, 05:14 PM
Yes. Also, I think a showtime freebee will begin in a couple weeks. I got a message on my stb a few weeks back.
The Showtime free preview will be 3/31 - 4/9.

UncD2000
03-23-06, 10:46 AM
This time, at least at the MP headend, they didn't remove the encryption from HBO HD 111-1 for the free preview.

cherrypik
03-25-06, 09:00 AM
I'm moving to Mundelein and I'm trying to figure out if Comcast is the best option. I'm also looking a this model to go with comcast:

Sony FWD-50PX2/B 50

Any thoughts on this TV using comcast?

rad
03-25-06, 11:05 AM
I'm moving to Mundelein and I'm trying to figure out if Comcast is the best option. I'm also looking a this model to go with comcast:

Sony FWD-50PX2/B 50

Any thoughts on this TV using comcast?

I'm in Mundelein and they recently enabled the analog/digital simulcast, so if you have a digital converter all the analog channels have been remapped to digital so none of those analog signal problems. So now all the SD channels look like they would on D* or E*, overcompressed. The HD channels look great, no ESPN2-HD yet but you get Comcast Sportsnet HD. Their pricing is higher then D* or E* and I wasn't happy with the Motorola 6412/3412 STB DVR, I prefer my D* HR10-250, that's the main reason I cancelled them and stayed with D*.

But if you're just starting out I'd say give C* a shot, no multiyear commitment and very low up front start up costs. If you don't like them then give one of the DBS services a shot.

cherrypik
03-25-06, 10:23 PM
I'm in Mundelein and they recently enabled the analog/digital simulcast, so if you have a digital converter all the analog channels have been remapped to digital so none of those analog signal problems. So now all the SD channels look like they would on D* or E*, overcompressed. The HD channels look great, no ESPN2-HD yet but you get Comcast Sportsnet HD. Their pricing is higher then D* or E* and I wasn't happy with the Motorola 6412/3412 STB DVR, I prefer my D* HR10-250, that's the main reason I cancelled them and stayed with D*.

But if you're just starting out I'd say give C* a shot, no multiyear commitment and very low up front start up costs. If you don't like them then give one of the DBS services a shot.

Thanks for the info. I'm probably going to go that route.

andyross63
03-26-06, 11:34 AM
I'm in Mundelein and they recently enabled the analog/digital simulcast, so if you have a digital converter all the analog channels have been remapped to digital so none of those analog signal problems. So now all the SD channels look like they would on D* or E*, overcompressed.
The ADS SD channels actually look pretty decent. Certainly better than the 6412 DVR's MPEG conversion of the analog signals. I was worried at first, but am generally happy with it.

My only complaint is that I have signal issues on tuner 2 with some channels (2, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 18, 19, 20) which are all subchannels on the same frequency (783MHz, analog 122). I already have a booster, but no matter what I do, that one frequency tends to bounce between FAIR and POOR for SNR on tuner 2. Oddly, channels on the next frequency up (789MHz/123) have no problems and show GOOD. There is nothing on the frequency below. I can only assume Comcast just has a weak 'transmitter' for that frequency, or I have some noise at that particular frequency.

UncD2000
03-26-06, 12:01 PM
If channel 121 at 777 MHz is available, it seems like they could give us Universal HD and ESPN2 HD on that frequency. Or the new National Geographic HD channel would be nice.

Gov
03-26-06, 06:09 PM
I switched over to the ADS about 3 months ago. Since then, the Weather Channel (ch 57) has piss poor volume and it only is coming out of the left front main speaker on my surround sound set up. Also, court TV's volume is screaming LOUD compared to the other lower channels. Anyone else noticing these problems?

andyross63
03-27-06, 05:05 PM
If channel 121 at 777 MHz is available, it seems like they could give us Universal HD and ESPN2 HD on that frequency. Or the new National Geographic HD channel would be nice.
I think many of the 'empty' slots are allocated for OnDemand, cable modems, cable phones, etc...

hdtv_moron
03-28-06, 02:10 PM
I just noticed my JVC DVHS recorder no longer displays the Comcast digital feed (via firewire). It sees the DCT-6200 just fine (displays DCT-6200 in the status window - but the screen is blank and grey).

I know the DVHS VCR is not HDCP capable. Did Comcast finally throw the HDCP switch on the firewire output?

If so, bye bye comcast!

chucky2
03-28-06, 02:20 PM
I tried reading through this thread in its entirety, but I confess, I gave up after about the 15th page.

I'm moving back in with the parents, who live in Park Forest, IL (abuot 35 miles South Southwest of Chicago), and I know they have both Comcast analog (which my dad prefers) and Comcast digital (mom and brother prefer it).

I have a 32" Syntax Olevia LCD that can do 480i/480p/720p/1080i...and it has DVI, VGA, and Component hookups.

I'm wondering, when I go to the Comcast office to pickup the hardware, should I ask if they have a specific piece of hardware, i.e. is one thing better than the other, or, is the equipment you get from them the same?

I'm getting a little worried, ready all the latest posts....it seems like getting HD is a nightmare compared to getting analog...

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Chuck

BigandLoud1234
03-28-06, 03:23 PM
I realize this is not an HD Broadcast question, but any assistance would be appreciated.

I just replaced my 6412 DVR that started to have major issues and received a new 3412 box. Problem now is I am not receving any analog channels, which is pretty much any channel between 2-99. I know this has something to do with ADS since the 3412 is a digital only box. Question is, does anybody have an idea when this will be implemented in the northside of Chicago(Andersonville). Really would prefer not to have swap the 3412 for another 6412.

Thanks

andyross63
03-28-06, 05:16 PM
I realize this is not an HD Broadcast question, but any assistance would be appreciated.

I just replaced my 6412 DVR that started to have major issues and received a new 3412 box. Problem now is I am not receving any analog channels, which is pretty much any channel between 2-99. I know this has something to do with ADS since the 3412 is a digital only box. Question is, does anybody have an idea when this will be implemented in the northside of Chicago(Andersonville). Really would prefer not to have swap the 3412 for another 6412.
They should not have given you a 3412 if ADS is not active in your area. It's possible ADS is active in your area, but your box was programmed incorrectly. Comcast may have just reused your old configuration. They need to update it for the 3412's lack of analog support.

STayfair
03-28-06, 06:38 PM
They should not have given you a 3412 if ADS is not active in your area. It's possible ADS is active in your area, but your box was programmed incorrectly. Comcast may have just reused your old configuration. They need to update it for the 3412's lack of analog support.

I haven't kept up much on this thread lately, but I'm in Schaumburg too using one of the original dual tuner DVR's. Does Comcast have a newer box that functions better than the original (6412 I think??).

With this box the menu seems to freeze on a nightly basis for anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or two.

What is the 3412 box I've seen mentioned and would it be functional in Schaumburg?

vj9999
03-28-06, 08:08 PM
I haven't kept up much on this thread lately, but I'm in Schaumburg too using one of the original dual tuner DVR's. Does Comcast have a newer box that functions better than the original (6412 I think??).

With this box the menu seems to freeze on a nightly basis for anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or two.

What is the 3412 box I've seen mentioned and would it be functional in Schaumburg?

3412 is 6412 minus the analog tuner because of ADS. It is also a little bit smaller but it looks similar/same. Performance wise, in my opinion, it performs just as poorly (all the 6412 bugs and quirks are still there).

HD Rookie
03-29-06, 11:28 AM
I realize this is not an HD Broadcast question, but any assistance would be appreciated.

I just replaced my 6412 DVR that started to have major issues and received a new 3412 box. Problem now is I am not receving any analog channels, which is pretty much any channel between 2-99. I know this has something to do with ADS since the 3412 is a digital only box. Question is, does anybody have an idea when this will be implemented in the northside of Chicago(Andersonville). Really would prefer not to have swap the 3412 for another 6412.

Thanks
This is a semi-common occurance. See the last page or two of http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=604142&goto=newpost

MookoTheKing
03-29-06, 04:23 PM
I am thinking about signing up with Comcast so with my setup here, will I be able to receive standard cable channels besides the basic ones? I will also be able to receive the local HD channels right?

basic cable ($13) + hd box ($5) + high speed internet

andyross63
03-29-06, 05:12 PM
I haven't kept up much on this thread lately, but I'm in Schaumburg too using one of the original dual tuner DVR's. Does Comcast have a newer box that functions better than the original (6412 I think??).

With this box the menu seems to freeze on a nightly basis for anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or two.

What is the 3412 box I've seen mentioned and would it be functional in Schaumburg?
All versions are pretty much the same. The 6412 Phase III and the 3412 both have their own issues (slow remote response, constant reboots, etc..)

By freezing, is it just a once-time thing, or something constantly happening? What time does it freeze? At around 4:20-4:50 (am or pm), the box runs through your series list and schedules programs. This can cause it to freeze for a bit. Sometimes, it totaly locks ups. Also, it seems to get sluggish while the guide is downloading, which happens roughly 2-3 times/day.

andyross63
03-29-06, 05:17 PM
A message a few days ago mentioned two new Encore channels, if you have Digital Plus or other service that includes Encore. They begin April 3rd:
RetroPlex on 522 (the message said 552, but I think that was a typo), replacing Encore Mystery west feed.
IndiePlex on 528, replacing Encore Drama west feed.

With the premium channels offering most of their series and movies on OnDemand, I think the west feeds will start disappearing to make room for other channels.

Rammitinski
03-29-06, 05:20 PM
It would be nice if they'd give more bandwith back to the existing channels, but I'm not naive enough to think that'll ever happen.

TWinbrook46636
03-31-06, 08:26 AM
Anyone receiving the Showtime free preview? It was supposed to have started today. Nothing showing up for me.

kevin j
03-31-06, 02:23 PM
I'm getting it.

TWinbrook46636
03-31-06, 03:58 PM
Hmmm. Anyone in Geneva, Batavia, St. Charles, etc. getting it?

wizzy
03-31-06, 07:45 PM
Getting it in Chicago.

Gov
03-31-06, 10:35 PM
Getting it from the Carpentersville area

mikek747
04-01-06, 12:11 AM
I got it in Highland Park tonight..., and Showtime is coming in, too. :D

Mike K.

Vax
04-01-06, 01:54 PM
What raw channel is Showtime? I am in Mt. Prospect area and I don't get it.

I don't have a cable box. I just bought the new VISIO Plasma 42" with digital tuner. I only get the raw channels (Eg. 11-2 for WTTW-HD)

PBS HD rocks!

How can I find a list with all Comcast raw channels in my area?

UncD2000
04-01-06, 06:52 PM
The Showtime freebie was somewhat limited this time around. The encryption was not removed and so only Comcast digital receivers and DVR's were able to view it. A few months ago, they even removed the encryption from Showtime HD (111-2 in Mount Prospect), but I guess they decided that was being too generous.

jmdomini
04-01-06, 07:06 PM
I've got a digital receiver and no Showtime free preview for me on the Oswego system.

andyross63
04-02-06, 10:07 AM
I just checked my cable box, and they are shown as encrypted. I'm guessing they temporarily added it to Digital Basic.

For reference, here in Schaumburg, SHO-HD is on 111. The SD's are scattered on 30 (west, Comedy west, Extreme west), 91 (Too West), 93 (east, Comedy, Extreme), 99 (Too), 101 (Next, Family, Women.)

biosci1
04-02-06, 05:09 PM
Does anyone around here have experiences with the EyeTV 500 and comcast? I'm thinking about getting this HDTV receiver but want to make sure it picks up all HDTV stations. Do I just connect the coax straight into it or do I have to have it linked to the HDTV motorolla box first?

Thanks for your help,
Mike

TWinbrook46636
04-02-06, 05:40 PM
I just checked my cable box, and they are shown as encrypted. I'm guessing they temporarily added it to Digital Basic.

Yes, that is exactly what they did this time around. With the HBO free preview a couple weeks ago you didn't need Digital Basic. As long as you had a digital tv or box you would pick it up. Of course I didn't even know about it until the last night so I missed most of it. This time I knew about it and they went and pulled this. I can't win.

TWinbrook46636
04-02-06, 05:50 PM
You just plug the coaxial cable directly into the EyeTV 500 box. It also has an input for an antenna. This is digital only so it won't pick up any analog channels. You will pick up most of what you subscribe to providing they are using ADS in your area but no premium channels as those would require a CableCARD. I've found that some of the regular digitals are missing while others have no sound but this is a problem on Comcast's end as it's the same deal with my Sony DHG-HDD500 HDTV recorder. I have an EyeTV 500 for sale if you are interested.

PhillyC
04-02-06, 07:08 PM
ADS has been implemented near downtown (North and Wells). Comcast properly included analog channel 94 as a duplicate of PBS 11 (for devices that use TVGOS), as well as analog channels for our high-rise lobby security camera and our building message board.

They did foul up my CableCARD provisioning in the process, but amazingly a single 5 minute phone call resulted in the card receiving a hit that immediately fixed everything.

Good job, Comcast!

jrodbbrook
04-02-06, 08:09 PM
No Whitesox in HD???? This is so wrong!

PhillyC
04-02-06, 08:19 PM
Yeah, still not enough respect. It's only on ESPN2.

Rammitinski
04-04-06, 04:22 AM
In due time boys, in due time. Being that this is just the very start of a new season, you should know by now that the only teams that are above having to prove themselves first in the networks eyes before getting top billing are the Yankees and the Red Sox.

jmdomini
04-04-06, 09:24 AM
It seems that Comcast is sneaking in another rate increase. I currently subscribe to Standard cable and have the HD box. As most of you probably know this gets you On Demand and Music Choice as well. Got a letter yesterday that the "Free Preview" of these features is ending and I'll have to upgrade to "Enhanced Cable" for $1.99 more to keep them.

It's not much money, but it does annoy me all the same. I wish they could solve the problem of those of us with no access to the southern sky to be able to get satellite.

UncD2000
04-04-06, 10:32 AM
No Whitesox in HD???? This is so wrong!The Sox game was in HD on ESPN HD. The constant scrolling of various sports scores across the bottom of the screen in that channel is very distracting, however, and takes away the feeling of "being there" that HD can impart. After a couple of innings I made a black strip that I taped to the TV to hide it. A bonus is that this yields an effective aspect ratio of around 2.0, which I like better than 1.78 anyway.

Sparkman87
04-04-06, 11:24 AM
The Sox game was in HD on ESPN HD. The constant scrolling of various sports scores across the bottom of the screen in that channel is very distracting, however, and takes away the feeling of "being there" that HD can impart. After a couple of innings I made a black strip that I taped to the TV to hide it. A bonus is that this yields an effective aspect ratio of around 2.0, which I like better than 1.78 anyway.

That wasn't ESPN HD, it was ESPN2HD!. You must be watching on satellite becuse Comcast isn't carrying ESPN2HD.

bidentime
04-04-06, 05:01 PM
I just signed up for Comcast HD which was installed Friday with Comcast 6412. Watching live Conan O'brien last night in HD, the digital coax audio was only in 2ch stereo, not 5.1. Other channels like Fox and CBS were ok. My Denon receiver was set to Auto and reported the output as "Dolby D"
Is this normal? Does local NBC-WMAQ not deliver audio in 5.1?

FSugino
04-04-06, 05:23 PM
I just signed up for Comcast HD which was installed Friday with Comcast 6412. Watching live Conan O'brien last night in HD, the digital coax audio was only in 2ch stereo, not 5.1. Other channels like Fox and CBS were ok. My Denon receiver was set to Auto and reported the output as "Dolby D"
Is this normal? Does local NBC-WMAQ not deliver audio in 5.1?

WMAQ-DT does deliver 5.1 audio (check an HD show during prime time). However, I don't think Conan's show is 5.1.

andyross63
04-04-06, 05:25 PM
I just signed up for Comcast HD which was installed Friday with Comcast 6412. Watching live Conan O'brien last night in HD, the digital coax audio was only in 2ch stereo, not 5.1. Other channels like Fox and CBS were ok. My Denon receiver was set to Auto and reported the output as "Dolby D"
Is this normal? Does local NBC-WMAQ not deliver audio in 5.1?
It depends on the program. If you watch carefully, you'll often see it switch to 2/0 during commercials and local programming. Commonly, network commercials will show 5.1 (but are probably just plain stereo), and local/Comcast inserted material is 2/0.

Plus, WMAQ has been having problems recently. Last week, Will & Grace was upconverted SD, and there was no network/station logo.

Leno is even worse. It used to be ProLogic, but now it's 5.1. BUT, there is NO center channel, just left and right front.

Another oddity is that my receiver switches on it's multi-channel light when receiving 1/0 material (Weather Channel and similar.)

UncD2000
04-04-06, 05:58 PM
That wasn't ESPN HD, it was ESPN2HD!. You must be watching on satellite becuse Comcast isn't carrying ESPN2HD.You're right.
I left out the 2. I switched from Comcast to D* six years ago, but picked Comcast back up last June because I was missing the HD Sox & Cubs games on Comcast SportsNet HD (I also got tired of waiting for D* to add Cinemax HD, INHD 1&2, etc.). Guess I'll be paying 2 providers until D* gets the new HD system in full operation next year.

Comcast SportsNet HD has outstanding PQ on the Sox and Cubs, and the occasional scores at the bottom are tolerable. WGN-HD doesn't have any at all, but their motion artifacts were annoying at times last year. We'll see if they look any better tomorrow afternoon.

bidentime
04-04-06, 07:45 PM
I just signed up for Comcast HD which was installed Friday with Comcast 6412. Watching live Conan O'brien last night in HD, the digital coax audio was only in 2ch stereo, not 5.1. Other channels like Fox and CBS were ok. My Denon receiver was set to Auto and reported the output as "Dolby D"
Is this normal? Does local NBC-WMAQ not deliver audio in 5.1?

Thanks for the replies. I will do some more experimenting but it sounds like it could have either been a glitch with the WMAQ broadcast or just that the show was in fact delivered in 2ch. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't screwing up something.

dongledano
04-05-06, 01:35 PM
Ok, I'm sure to get flamed for asking a dumb question or asking about something that was already answered.... but here goes....

I spent a lot of time researching DLP, projectors and the Sony SXRD line. For my application, I went with the Sony KDS-R60XBR1. I LOVE this TV. I have basic cable from Comcast and have no desire for much more. I simply plugged it in, let the TV scan (no Comcast box) and I had a bunch of HD content pop up on channels like 90.9. I'm ok with setting up my favorites on my remote for these weird channels.

Outside of the main networks I only desire ESPN HD. Basically, I want to watch the Cubs and Sox in HD and other ESPN games of the week... and Monday Night Football.

Comcast tells me conflicting stories:

-one support person says "Since your Sony takes Cable Card, you can buy that ($50 with install) and subscribe to Digital Classic for $10 more a month"

-another one says "Cable Card is no good at this point. ESPN HD is a premium channel, so you will need a Comcast box and to subscribe to a premium lineup"

my questions are:

-with basic cable, can I get ESPN HD?
-if not, which answer is right? (I'd prefer the Cable Card route)
-do I ditch Comcast and Dish it out?
-I think I also can see all of the people on the blocks PVR and OnDemand programs, is that what I am seeing too?

thanks in advance

andyross63
04-05-06, 05:30 PM
You can use CableCard. Comcast seems to like pushing their box because they have more control, and CableCard has been problematic. With CableCard, you lose program guide information (I don't think your TV has an alternate guide service) and OnDemand capability. I think they are charging almost as much for CableCard as for an HD cable box.

cherrypik
04-06-06, 11:07 AM
Ok, I'm sure to get flamed for asking a dumb question or asking about something that was already answered.... but here goes....

I spent a lot of time researching DLP, projectors and the Sony SXRD line. For my application, I went with the Sony KDS-R60XBR1. I LOVE this TV. I have basic cable from Comcast and have no desire for much more. I simply plugged it in, let the TV scan (no Comcast box) and I had a bunch of HD content pop up on channels like 90.9. I'm ok with setting up my favorites on my remote for these weird channels.

Outside of the main networks I only desire ESPN HD. Basically, I want to watch the Cubs and Sox in HD and other ESPN games of the week... and Monday Night Football.

Comcast tells me conflicting stories:

-one support person says "Since your Sony takes Cable Card, you can buy that ($50 with install) and subscribe to Digital Classic for $10 more a month"

-another one says "Cable Card is no good at this point. ESPN HD is a premium channel, so you will need a Comcast box and to subscribe to a premium lineup"

my questions are:

-with basic cable, can I get ESPN HD?
-if not, which answer is right? (I'd prefer the Cable Card route)
-do I ditch Comcast and Dish it out?
-I think I also can see all of the people on the blocks PVR and OnDemand programs, is that what I am seeing too?

thanks in advance

I just picked up the same Sony and Comcast as well. What cable connection are you using? Mine is being delivered today and I am trying to figure out if I should stick with component or upgrade to HDMI with Comcast programming. Will I notice that much of a difference. Anyone with sugggestions please chime in...

UncD2000
04-06-06, 12:41 PM
HDMI is the obvious choice with the SXRD. However, some Comcast 6412 DVR's have HDMI issues, so if you run into problems, switching to component is the usual solution.

dongledano
04-06-06, 01:52 PM
You can use CableCard. Comcast seems to like pushing their box because they have more control, and CableCard has been problematic. With CableCard, you lose program guide information (I don't think your TV has an alternate guide service) and OnDemand capability. I think they are charging almost as much for CableCard as for an HD cable box.

the CableCard is a one time charge where the Comcast box is a month charge. CableCard was around $50 which includes installation. The box without DVR is $5 a month and $10 a month for the HDDVR. So I was going on the fact that CableCard is paid for in under a year.

Actually I don't know what the technology is, but the Sony does show the program title on about 75% of the programs. It even does so when I am running the video through my VCR tuner!

So what about the CableCard is "problematic"?

thanks for the response

dongledano
04-06-06, 02:00 PM
I just picked up the same Sony and Comcast as well. What cable connection are you using? Mine is being delivered today and I am trying to figure out if I should stick with component or upgrade to HDMI with Comcast programming. Will I notice that much of a difference. Anyone with sugggestions please chime in...

As embarrassing as it is to say, I'm using a coax connection straight from the splitter, inside the house from the post outside. I did upgrade the coax to RG6 quad shield.

Again, I am not using any equipment from Comcast, and that is where I am trying to make my decision.

I watched LOST last night in 720p in 16:9 native with Dolby 5.1 on channel 84.1.

So I'm trying to justify spending so much more money just to get ESPN HD when I get all the local channels in HD and can tune the basic cable lineup in digital (480i).

PhillyC
04-06-06, 03:59 PM
So I'm trying to justify spending so much more money just to get ESPN HD when I get all the local channels in HD and can tune the basic cable lineup in digital (480i).

CableCARD is 98% OK. It's some local cable companies that have problems. If you don't want to record HD, then you don't need the Comcast DVR. The CableCARD for your TV will handle everything. Comcast will charge for installation of the box or the card, although the prices may be different. They have mostly figured out the cards, although there are exceptions.

The decision to spend the money on the upgrade to get ESPN-HD is yours alone.

hdtv_moron
04-06-06, 05:34 PM
I just noticed my JVC DVHS recorder no longer displays the Comcast digital feed (via firewire). It sees the DCT-6200 just fine (displays DCT-6200 in the status window - but the screen is blank and grey).

I know the DVHS VCR is not HDCP capable. Did Comcast finally throw the HDCP switch on the firewire output?

If so, bye bye comcast!

Anyone?

andyross63
04-06-06, 05:36 PM
the CableCard is a one time charge where the Comcast box is a month charge. CableCard was around $50 which includes installation. The box without DVR is $5 a month and $10 a month for the HDDVR. So I was going on the fact that CableCard is paid for in under a year.

Actually I don't know what the technology is, but the Sony does show the program title on about 75% of the programs. It even does so when I am running the video through my VCR tuner!

So what about the CableCard is "problematic"?
The Sony simply supports the XDS signal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDS) sent with some programs. TV's have had this for years. Problem is, it isn't always right, only works when tuned to a channel, and often simply gives the network name. It's not a true guide that lets you see what is on other channels currently and into the near future.

There were issues with CableCards not always working with certain TV's, or not getting properly authorized. For the most part, most of the worst issues are probably fixed by now, especially with second generation equipment.

vj9999
04-07-06, 01:35 PM
Off topic question. Anyone else notice a speed increase on HSI?

I have gold tier 8Mbps, but today it has consistently been downloading at 12Mbps. Upload seems to be the same.

HD Rookie
04-07-06, 01:59 PM
Off topic question. Anyone else notice a speed increase on HSI?

I have gold tier 8Mbps, but today it has consistently been downloading at 12Mbps. Upload seems to be the same.
Sweet! I'll test it tonight. In mount prospect, I have yet to acheive speeds much faster than 4 meg.

epsilon
04-07-06, 02:05 PM
ATM, about 9900Mbps, 705 up. I've seen 10Mbps a few times, usualy late at night.

Edit: I have gold (8Mbps/768Kbps)

STayfair
04-07-06, 02:07 PM
Off topic question. Anyone else notice a speed increase on HSI?

I have gold tier 8Mbps, but today it has consistently been downloading at 12Mbps. Upload seems to be the same.

I think I have the 6Mbps service...just tested at the Chicago Speakeasy site and was pulling just under 10Mbps down and just over 350kbps up. It "spiked" a couple times during the download test over 14Mbps.

That looks to be just about 50% better than expected which is about the same as you are pulling...strange.

vj9999
04-07-06, 02:44 PM
I think I have the 6Mbps service...just tested at the Chicago Speakeasy site and was pulling just under 10Mbps down and just over 350kbps up. It "spiked" a couple times during the download test over 14Mbps.

That looks to be just about 50% better than expected which is about the same as you are pulling...strange.

It could be that they are bumping 6mbps to 10 and 8mbps tp 12. Either wa it was anice surprise. Now if they would bump my upload speed to at least 1Mbps I'd be a happy customer.

FSugino
04-07-06, 03:00 PM
Off topic question. Anyone else notice a speed increase on HSI?

I have gold tier 8Mbps, but today it has consistently been downloading at 12Mbps. Upload seems to be the same.
I'm also on the 8Mb tier, and I've seen exceptional speeds ever since the last upgrade. I've seen some bursts as high as 17Mbps (for five or ten seconds), and I've always had sustained downloads at 8Mbps or higher.

STayfair
04-07-06, 03:02 PM
It could be that they are bumping 6mbps to 10 and 8mbps tp 12. Either wa it was anice surprise. Now if they would bump my upload speed to at least 1Mbps I'd be a happy customer.

A Comcast CSR recently told me that they were bumping 6Mbps to 8Mbps but he also said we'd have to pay for it so I assumed I wouldn't be getting it (I really don't need that much bandwidth, 6Mbps is more than enough for me - that don't mean I wouldn't be real happy if they bumped it at no extra charge :D ).

kblee
04-07-06, 03:09 PM
I apologize in advance for the off topic question, but I received a call from Comcast with an offer I am considering. Apparently the Comcast Digital Voice technology (VoIP) is finally available in my area. If I make the switch from SBC/ATT it could save me $20-$25 /mo. The only issue I have is that our home has a security alarm that is monitored by a company in TX and any signal (burglar, etc) would currently travel by telephone line to them. They have made it clear that they discourage the switch to VoIP. However, Comcast indicates that their Digital Voice system is designed to work with most alarm systems. Does anyone here have any experience with this type of issue?

Thx

andyross63
04-07-06, 05:02 PM
A Comcast CSR recently told me that they were bumping 6Mbps to 8Mbps but he also said we'd have to pay for it so I assumed I wouldn't be getting it (I really don't need that much bandwidth, 6Mbps is more than enough for me - that don't mean I wouldn't be real happy if they bumped it at no extra charge :D ).
I've never even gotten 6M, and Comcast won't believe me (they just say 'speeds may vary...). I'm still only getting around 4700-4800/350-370. RCA DCM315.

geodon005
04-07-06, 06:33 PM
Still getting 8 Mbps here in Mt. Prospect. . . did those of you who got the speed increase have to powercycle your modem, or did it just happen?

STayfair
04-07-06, 08:10 PM
Still getting 8 Mbps here in Mt. Prospect. . . did those of you who got the speed increase have to powercycle your modem, or did it just happen?

I did not have to power cycle my modem.

FSugino
04-07-06, 08:50 PM
Still getting 8 Mbps here in Mt. Prospect. . . did those of you who got the speed increase have to powercycle your modem, or did it just happen?
I power cycled mine the day the upgrade went into effect.

I just ran the Speakeasy speedtest and got 11430kbps down, 685kbps up. Life is nice in the fast lane :)

jmdomini
04-07-06, 11:14 PM
What are they charging for this service? You don't often hear Comcast and save money in the same sentence.

If I make the switch from SBC/ATT it could save me $20-$25 /mo.
Thx

FSugino
04-07-06, 11:27 PM
I've never even gotten 6M, and Comcast won't believe me (they just say 'speeds may vary...). I'm still only getting around 4700-4800/350-370. RCA DCM315.
You may want to get another modem... see this Comcast message thread (http://forums.comcast.net/thread.jspa?threadID=58131&tstart=0) for details.

vj9999
04-07-06, 11:54 PM
I power cycled mine the day the upgrade went into effect.

I just ran the Speakeasy speedtest and got 11430kbps down, 685kbps up. Life is nice in the fast lane :)

Sure is nice :) I have been getting 12700/700 all day long.

andyross63
04-08-06, 09:19 AM
Anyone have issues replacing a rented modem with their own? Any gotchas to watch out for?

kevin j
04-08-06, 11:45 AM
Anyone know when WCIU-HD'll be added to our system?[i've noticed the Cubs/sox have games coming up soon in HD on WCIU]

andyross63
04-08-06, 04:23 PM
Anyone have issues replacing a rented modem with their own? Any gotchas to watch out for?
I went and bought the Motorola 5120. Pretty easy setup. On the first connect, you are taken to a screen where you download some connection software. You fill in your account number or name/address/phone and it updates things.

It is faster, but rather erratic. Broadband reports reports under 4M for some reason, but Speakeasy and myspeed.visualware.com show around 7-9, but tend to bounce up and down. I think many of these speed sites need to update for the hyper-fast speeds these days.

Any other recommended speed test sites?

UncD2000
04-08-06, 08:12 PM
Anyone know when WCIU-HD'll be added to our system?[i've noticed the Cubs/sox have games coming up soon in HD on WCIU]The fact that INHD2 had to be dropped during the Olympics to make room for Universal HD seems to indicate that there is no room for additional HD channels, but some schedules a year ago showed HD Sox/Cubs home games on WCIU and they never happened. Maybe when 26-1 actually starts OTA HD transmissions Comcast will take notice and try to squeeze it in somewhere.

sebenste
04-09-06, 01:17 AM
The fact that INHD2 had to be dropped during the Olympics to make room for Universal HD seems to indicate that there is no room for additional HD channels, but some schedules a year ago showed HD Sox/Cubs home games on WCIU and they never happened. Maybe when 26-1 actually starts OTA HD transmissions Comcast will take notice and try to squeeze it in somewhere.

Well, that was because WGN messed up on their web site. That wasn't WCIU's fault.

Now, would you like to know when WCIU *actually* starts broadcasting HD?
Hey Comcasters, let me see ya flood the customer service line!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7455608&&#post7455608

I got the word from their chief engineer that since it was made official this
Friday (4/8/06) afternoon, I could let the news fly!

UncD2000
04-09-06, 11:07 AM
Thanks, Gilbert. That's very good news. At 720P the subchannels shouldn't hurt too much. Might actually look better than WGN-DT, which is still strikingly degraded by motion artifacts.

kevin j
04-09-06, 12:17 PM
I just emailed Comcast asking if there's any chance of having WCIU-DT added in time for the Sox game on the 14th if i get a reply i'll post it.

sebenste
04-09-06, 12:24 PM
Thanks, Gilbert. That's very good news. At 720P the subchannels shouldn't hurt too much. Might actually look better than WGN-DT, which is still strikingly degraded by motion artifacts.

I'm with ya, Unc, and they will be using the latest generation of encoders, and
with variable bitrate assignments. That is, if the HD channel needs 17 MB, it will get it at the expense of the subs.

P.S. You and every baseball fan on this board needs to call Comcast, WOW, RCN, etc (as well as those not on the board who have HDTV's and are baseball fans) to rattle enough cages to get them to add this quickly.

kevin j
04-09-06, 07:14 PM
I got a reply saying they'll forward my request to their marketing department and that they don't have any idea when or if they'll add WCIU-HD.

HEELSFINL4
04-14-06, 05:08 PM
I am currently looking into switching from d* to Comcast. I just had a couple of questions. Is the Comcast HD picture quality noticeably better than d* tv. How is the comcast hd dvr? I haven't heard much about it. I also know my monthly costs may be higher. This won't bother me if the picture quality is what Iwould expect from high definition. I would hate to purchase an HD-DVR from d*tv, and not have a true HD picture. Any input would be appreciated.

Rammitinski
04-14-06, 05:43 PM
Well, the HD quality is about the best you're gonna get, outside of OTA. And you will have all the locals at least. Don't know much about their DVR myself, although I thought Comcast rented their DVR's, not sold them.

cherry ghost
04-14-06, 07:13 PM
Yes, you rent them. I pay $9.95/month for the DCT6412 III. It's no Tivo, but it does the job for HD. A bigger hard drive would be nice, though. I can put about 17 hours on it.

outlanderbz
04-14-06, 08:41 PM
so can someone explain why Comcast doesn't carry the HD feed for WCIU Sox games but yet at the start of the game they say and show "HDTV on SoxNet brought to you by Comcast". How idiotic is it for their marketing department to pay for advertising HDTV and not actually carry that station. Then channel 6 which is 26 the U "fuzzy station" is the worst picture and sound ever. There is Hi-def, standard-def and then WCIU (low Def).

Get your act together Comcast. ESPN2 and now WCIU.

PhillyC
04-14-06, 08:52 PM
The lack of WCIU-HD and ESPN2-HD is very frustrating, especially the first one with Sox home games that ought to be in HD.

kevin j
04-14-06, 09:09 PM
It should say"HDTV on Soxnet brought to you by Comcast but not on Comcast"

crcostel
04-14-06, 09:15 PM
Sure we don't get the channels we want

ESPN2HD
UniHD
WCIUHD

But hey - we get 2 G4s. What a deal.

outlanderbz
04-14-06, 09:30 PM
It should say"HDTV on Soxnet brought to you by Comcast but not on Comcast"

I like that, it would more accurate. it is almost like false advertisement.

Rammitinski
04-15-06, 02:34 AM
WCIU is throwing the high-power switch on Monday morning. Don't any of you guys have a standalone or built-in OTA tuner to try and get it with?

kevin j
04-15-06, 11:21 AM
Nope so i'm going to wait patiently until Comcast gets it[hopefully sooner rather than later].

FSugino
04-15-06, 09:08 PM
WCIU is throwing the high-power switch on Monday morning. Don't any of you guys have a standalone or built-in OTA tuner to try and get it with?
I've never had a problem picking up 26.01 (The U!), 26.02 (MeTV), or 26.03 (WFBT) with a Silver Sensor antenna here in Schaumburg.

PhillyC
04-15-06, 09:30 PM
I've never had a problem picking up 26.01 (The U!), 26.02 (MeTV), or 26.03 (WFBT) with a Silver Sensor antenna here in Schaumburg.

My old LG DVR with RS double bow-tie indoor antenna was able to pick up some OTA stations that transmit at high power, but multipath is also a big problem near downtown. My Sony DVR can get some of them, but 26.1 is not even a blip on the "radar". Maybe the increased power on Monday will help.

How will WCIU transmission power compare to CBS, which I could not get until they turned up the power a couple of years ago?

goaliebob99
04-15-06, 10:18 PM
My old LG DVR with RS double bow-tie indoor antenna was able to pick up some OTA stations that transmit at high power, but multipath is also a big problem near downtown. My Sony DVR can get some of them, but 26.1 is not even a blip on the "radar". Maybe the increased power on Monday will help.

How will WCIU transmission power compare to CBS, which I could not get until they turned up the power a couple of years ago?


It wont compare.. A more accurate comparison would be ABC, NBC, Or FOX! To put it to you this way.. anything will out blow cbs's signal. WCIU will blow it out of the water DOWNRIGHT! It does now at LP! I cant get cbs out here where im at but I can get wciu. It bearly comes in but it's way more reliable than cbs right now :)

Rammitinski
04-16-06, 03:26 PM
Yeah, same here in Crystal Lake. I get WCIU just good enough, but no CBS (indoor antenna). But I can often get WIFR (CBS) out of Rockford. I've actually been picking up the Milwaukee CBS station the last few days due to tropo or ducting. But that won't last long. I'm not sure of WCIU's actual planned power output, but if you ask Gilbert over on the OTA thread, I'm sure he'll know.

sebenste
04-16-06, 04:57 PM
Yeah, same here in Crystal Lake. I get WCIU just good enough, but no CBS (indoor antenna). But I can often get WIFR (CBS) out of Rockford. I've actually been picking up the Milwaukee CBS station the last few days due to tropo or ducting. But that won't last long. I'm not sure of WCIU's actual planned power output, but if you ask Gilbert over on the OTA thread, I'm sure he'll know.

...or I can mosey on over here and tell you. :D They are at 15.1 kilowatts (kw) now. As of 4/17/06 at 6 AM, they will be at 160 kw. WBBM is at 4.4 kw.

Rammitinski
04-16-06, 08:31 PM
OK, so that answers that. But it still won't be as much as say, NBC, ABC, Fox, etc., right? I think they're quite a bit higher than that, aren't they? Like at least 500kw, right?

sebenste
04-16-06, 09:56 PM
OK, so that answers that. But it still won't be as much as say, NBC, ABC, Fox, etc., right? I think they're quite a bit higher than that, aren't they? Like at least 500kw, right?

WLS-DT has 153.6 kw, NBC has 350 kw, and FOX has 690 kw. But, WCIU has the "antenna advantage". Many UHF antennas are tuned best for channels
below 40, and 27 (where WCIU is physically located) is perfect. That's why
WLS is tougher to get in fringe areas (and sometimes not!). That's also why,
at 99 kw, few people have trouble with WYCC. And why I have trouble with WPWR, even though they are at 1 million watts (1 mw)!

I am learning just by observation that once you hit 500 kw, it doesn't matter
how much more you crank it up for outdoor antennas.

P.S. WCIU is at 160 kw because they have to throw a null to the northwest to protect 27 in Madison, as one reason for not going higher.

Rammitinski
04-17-06, 02:29 AM
Yeah, that makes sense, because WCIU and WFLD are the 2 stations that come in best for me in analog in that range, too. In fact, they often look much better than their Dish counterparts (although that ain't necessarily sayin' much, I know).

dgordo
04-17-06, 04:16 PM
Hello all

I am thinking about signing up for comcast and I have a couple questions. What stb are they currently using for HD-DVR, SD-DVR, HD and SD boxes? How many HD-dvrs will they let you have? Do they offer any deals? According to the website it would cost me $155 a month to get what I have now with D* but I would much rather have comcast.

andyross63
04-17-06, 04:57 PM
I am thinking about signing up for comcast and I have a couple questions. What stb are they currently using for HD-DVR, SD-DVR, HD and SD boxes? How many HD-dvrs will they let you have? Do they offer any deals? According to the website it would cost me $155 a month to get what I have now with D* but I would much rather have comcast.
In this area, Comcast is generally using various Motorola DCT6412 and 3412 models. They support HD and SD. The 3412 is only available in areas that have ADS (100% digital) available. They are typically $9.99/month more than a non-DVR box.

I'm not certain what they are using for non-DVR right now. Non-DVR HD may still be using DCT-5100 and DCT-6200. For SD, there are even older models, although I've heard of a really tiny one starting to come out.

You can check out the Wikibook link in my sig at the bottom.

dgordo
04-17-06, 07:48 PM
In this area, Comcast is generally using various Motorola DCT6412 and 3412 models. They support HD and SD. The 3412 is only available in areas that have ADS (100% digital) available. They are typically $9.99/month more than a non-DVR box.

I'm not certain what they are using for non-DVR right now. Non-DVR HD may still be using DCT-5100 and DCT-6200. For SD, there are even older models, although I've heard of a really tiny one starting to come out.

You can check out the Wikibook link in my sig at the bottom.


Thanks for the info. What about max number of HD-DVRs? I would want 3-4, would that be a problem?

Also, obviously I would have to get the HD package to get the HD channels but what is the minimum level of service I can get with the HD package that would get my all the HD channels, minus the movie channels, HBO, etc.

Thanks

Sorry for all the questions but comcast csrs have been less then helpful and contradictory.

andyross63
04-18-06, 06:19 PM
Thanks for the info. What about max number of HD-DVRs? I would want 3-4, would that be a problem?
You can probably get multiples unless there is a shortage in your area. I do think you'll have to pay the $9.99 for EACH, plus an extra fee ($6?) for each extra box.

Also, obviously I would have to get the HD package to get the HD channels but what is the minimum level of service I can get with the HD package that would get my all the HD channels, minus the movie channels, HBO, etc.
I think Digital Classic + HD is required to get the non-broadcast HD channels (ESPN-HD, INPPV, etc..) It's possible some like Discovery HD Theater might require Digital Plus. Their on-line list of channels is confusing. HD is listed separately.

dgordo
04-18-06, 07:04 PM
You can probably get multiples unless there is a shortage in your area. I do think you'll have to pay the $9.99 for EACH, plus an extra fee ($6?) for each extra box.


I think Digital Classic + HD is required to get the non-broadcast HD channels (ESPN-HD, INPPV, etc..) It's possible some like Discovery HD Theater might require Digital Plus. Their on-line list of channels is confusing. HD is listed separately.


Thanks, I appreciate all the help.

mlx52
04-24-06, 03:15 AM
Has anyone in the Chicago market gotten the new, all digital, DCT-700 cable box? I want to replace some of my DCT-2000's in the house, as I have heard they are faster, and do not have a monthly charge associated with them.

dgordo
04-24-06, 08:17 PM
Is the cubs-marlins game tonight blacked out for comcast customers on ESPNHD?

UncD2000
04-24-06, 11:36 PM
I didn't check, but probably so, in deference to the local HD telecast on WCIU.

dgordo
04-25-06, 09:11 AM
The reason I asked is because it was not blacked out on D* so I was wondering if that was a mistake or if both channels had the right to show the game.

UncD2000
04-25-06, 12:29 PM
I guess no one had exclusive rights. Must have been the same situation for the Bulls game, because TNT HD and Comcast SportsNet HD both carried it.

cheezdawg475
04-25-06, 05:01 PM
the sox and cubs games say brought to you by comcast, because they bought the cameras that are resident cameras at that park. comcast wants to be mentioned, as i would to after spending probably a million on video and sound at the parks. I kind of wish they would get it on the air to, but its not that frustrating as espn2 because atleast wciu can be pulled ota.

Scott Stevens
04-27-06, 02:10 PM
As embarrassing as it is to say, I'm using a coax connection straight from the splitter, inside the house from the post outside. I did upgrade the coax to RG6 quad shield.

Again, I am not using any equipment from Comcast, and that is where I am trying to make my decision.

I watched LOST last night in 720p in 16:9 native with Dolby 5.1 on channel 84.1.

So I'm trying to justify spending so much more money just to get ESPN HD when I get all the local channels in HD and can tune the basic cable lineup in digital (480i).

I'm new to this HD stuff as well. Can I get the locals in HD on Comcast with the $16.50 per month basic package, since my TV (being delivered Saturday) has a QAM tuner?

HD Rookie
04-27-06, 02:20 PM
I'm new to this HD stuff as well. Can I get the locals in HD on Comcast with the $16.50 per month basic package, since my TV (being delivered Saturday) has a QAM tuner?
Yes. You should be able to find the actual channel numbers if you do a search in this thread.

Scott Stevens
04-27-06, 02:26 PM
Yes. You should be able to find the actual channel numbers if you do a search in this thread.

Cool! Thanks for the help.

cheezdawg475
04-28-06, 09:51 PM
anyone else not recieving bravo on their comcast digital cable? the channel is either blank or not available? thanks

jc

cheezdawg475
04-28-06, 10:23 PM
thanks to anyone that took the time to try and check, but it was a problem with the cable card, sigh, i just took it out waited 45 seconds and put it back in and it was back. hopefully maybe my experiences can help someone else.

cheezdawg475
04-29-06, 02:23 AM
my cable card keeps dropping bravo and it seems like its the only channel, i can reinitalize the cable card and then its back and gone later. anyone have similar issues?

victor_c26
05-02-06, 04:07 PM
I have the Samsung SIR-T451 HDTV ATSC and QAM tuner. Now, I currently have two comcast provided Motorola HDTV cable boxes set up on two HDTVs. I have one old 20" Sony CRT SDTV in the house that I'd like to get digital cable on.

Now since the SIR-T451 Is QAM capable, what channels will I be able to get? How does the QAM standard work? How many digital channels are on one QAM channel? Since the SIR-T451 can only receive 125 QAM channels, how many digital stations will I get.

I'm in Chicago.

UncD2000
05-02-06, 04:32 PM
One QAM channel can accommodate 2 HD channels or 12 SD channels. Unfortunately, most all are scrambled, even the music channels as of last month, except the 6 local HD channels that Comcast carries, the SD local stations, and a few access channels. There are a few others that aren't encrypted, but nothing to get excited about.

victor_c26
05-02-06, 06:47 PM
So SD channels like Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, etc are encrypted? Well, that's a downer.

Rammitinski
05-03-06, 02:47 PM
Do you still receive the analog versions over the cable? If so, just split it to the Sony's NTSC tuner. On a 20" TV I don't think you'll see that big of a difference anyway.

Unoriginal Name
05-04-06, 02:05 PM
Does anyone have the channel number for WCIU-DT? I have a QAM tuner built in to my TV. I get all the locals but they have recently all changed channels on me...ie. 9-2 has been changed now to 112-1. I haven't been able to find WCIU-DT though.

Also, what would have caused my channels going from one number to another? One day all the locals wouldn't work and I had to re-search for channels.

kevin j
05-04-06, 02:07 PM
WCIU-DT'S not available on Comcast......yet.

Rammitinski
05-04-06, 02:36 PM
Just the 480i digital equivalent of 26 analog. No HD yet. If everyone keeps badgering them enough, maybe that'll speed things up.

Unoriginal Name
05-04-06, 02:50 PM
Thanks for the quick replies. I forgot to mention I do not get my HD through Comcast I get it OTA. Is there WCIU HD on OTA? Maybe I should try the other thread instead?

HD Rookie
05-04-06, 03:20 PM
Thanks for the quick replies. I forgot to mention I do not get my HD through Comcast I get it OTA. Is there WCIU HD on OTA? Maybe I should try the other thread instead?
Certainly sounds like somebody switch your input from an ota antenna to comcast. A channel number like 112.1 sounds like a Comcast channel number.

Scott Stevens
05-06-06, 11:47 AM
OK, I've searched this thread, and seen a couple confusing entries. I had the install done this morning. I've done a channel scan and can get almost all the HD locals, with the exception of WLS and WGN. Can someone please tell me what channel numbers they are on?

Thanks!

UncD2000
05-06-06, 12:38 PM
It our area WLS-DT is on 92-1 and WGN-DT on 92-2. These are not standard around Chicagoland. Are these the two that some QAM TV tuners have problems with?

andyross63
05-07-06, 09:48 AM
I saw these messages a few days ago:
On May 31st, Shop @ Home will be added on channel 283.
On June 1st, Current (125) will move to Digital Classic from Digital Premier.

JCF
05-08-06, 08:47 AM
As of this morning, I have ADS here in Naperville. IMO, the picture quality is like night and day better. I can't believe how much better it looks!

UncD2000
05-08-06, 09:25 AM
Wonder how long it will be before they stop transmitting the analog version of Expanded Basic. This will free up a lot of bandwidth for HD. If combined with MPEG4 technology, Comcast could start talking about capacity for 150 national HD channels like D* is doing.

Rammitinski
05-08-06, 02:16 PM
Wonder how long it will be before they stop transmitting the analog version of Expanded Basic. This will free up a lot of bandwidth for HD. If combined with MPEG4 technology, Comcast could start talking about capacity for 150 national HD channels like D* is doing.Boy, if or when they do, my brother-in-law is gonna be one p.o.'d dude. He's got it split to about 8 TV's now. Hey, I've got a question for you - (assuming it'll still be mpeg2 for awhile) does Comcast enable the digital tier from their end so that I could use the QAM tuner in my Sony DVR rather than have to rent their box or cable card? (This is non-premium I'm referring to, of course.) And will they definitely supply an analog host channel for the TVGOS if I request it?

UncD2000
05-08-06, 03:45 PM
Comcast is encrypting just about all their QAM channels except the local stations (SD & HD) and local access services. Even the music channels became encrypted last month.

I read in this forum that WTTW will be transmitted in analog on Ch. 94 for TVGOS when everything else is digital, but it hasn't started in our headend so far.

Scott Stevens
05-09-06, 08:32 AM
Boy, if or when they do, my brother-in-law is gonna be one p.o.'d dude. He's got it split to about 8 TV's now. Hey, I've got a question for you - (assuming it'll still be mpeg2 for awhile) does Comcast enable the digital tier from their end so that I could use the QAM tuner in my Sony DVR rather than have to rent their box or cable card? (This is non-premium I'm referring to, of course.) And will they definitely supply an analog host channel for the TVGOS if I request it?

Well, I'm using the tuner in my new Panny plasma with the "basic service", and it tunes the locals in (but I can't seem to find channels 7 or 9).

Rammitinski
05-09-06, 01:25 PM
Well, I'm using the tuner in my new Panny plasma with the "basic service", and it tunes the locals in (but I can't seem to find channels 7 or 9).I'm not surprised to hear that. If you read the Panny plasma threads, you'll find it to be a common problem that people can't get all the available channels on their built-in QAM tuners. Don't know why that is - it just is.

Gov
05-13-06, 10:52 PM
Anyone using a 6412 with a DVI output please answer this question. I just recently hooked up my 6412 with a DVI to HDMI cable in lieu of the component cables I was using. Overall the PQ is a bit better with the DVI to HDMI cable. The only problem I now have is on all 480i material the picture shifts about 1 inch to the right. 720p and 1080i is just fine. My 4:3 setting on the STB is set to 480i because I like to stretch the material with the "wide zoom" feature on my Sony RPTV. Why does the 480i material shift through the DVI/HDMI cable?

Thanks

wase4711
05-14-06, 09:27 AM
not sure why it shifts; I have the same set up, and I assume your TV has a setting that allows you to nudge the picture over to the center..
I have mine set for 480p, and never noticed that problem..using a pioneer elite 1120 plasma..

Gov
05-14-06, 09:35 AM
Yea...if I set mine to 480p, mine does not shift either, just 480i, which I like.

andyross63
05-14-06, 11:09 AM
Anyone using a 6412 with a DVI output please answer this question. I just recently hooked up my 6412 with a DVI to HDMI cable in lieu of the component cables I was using. Overall the PQ is a bit better with the DVI to HDMI cable. The only problem I now have is on all 480i material the picture shifts about 1 inch to the right. 720p and 1080i is just fine. My 4:3 setting on the STB is set to 480i because I like to stretch the material with the "wide zoom" feature on my Sony RPTV. Why does the 480i material shift through the DVI/HDMI cable?

I havea similar problem with my 6412 (a Phase II) and my Sony KV-30XBR910. Using DVI, 480i is shifted to the right, with nearly 0% overscan on the left (I normally have about 3%). Problem is, both component and DVI share the same position settings, so if I adjust the DVI, then it screws up my DVD on the comonent inputs. I also had the same issue with a non-DVR 6200 I originally had before the 6412.

There wasn't a major picture difference between DVI and component. Most of it is due to differences in service menu settings. I just use the component for now.

Gov
05-14-06, 12:19 PM
I havea similar problem with my 6412 (a Phase II) and my Sony KV-30XBR910. Using DVI, 480i is shifted to the right, with nearly 0% overscan on the left (I normally have about 3%). Problem is, both component and DVI share the same position settings, so if I adjust the DVI, then it screws up my DVD on the comonent inputs. I also had the same issue with a non-DVR 6200 I originally had before the 6412.

There wasn't a major picture difference between DVI and component. Most of it is due to differences in service menu settings. I just use the component for now.

Well...no biggy I guess, I'll just deal with it. 480i material via DVI is much better than through component on my set. Through component, 480i is really washed out looking. Funny thing is if I set the STB to 480p, things look better through component. 720 and 1080 material is about the same through both. I watch everything through the STB on video 7 on my TV (DVI to HDMI) and it has been professionally calibrated. The shift seems common through DVI so I won't worry about it. Thanx for the reply

M_Ross124
05-14-06, 09:57 PM
Anyone know why my 6412 would reset itself? Seems it loses power then comes right back on. This morning a few times and tonight off and on. Ive had the box for
awhile, never had this happen...any insight would be helpful.

gregger77
05-15-06, 12:08 PM
I'm not surprised to hear that. If you read the Panny plasma threads, you'll find it to be a common problem that people can't get all the available channels on their built-in QAM tuners. Don't know why that is - it just is.

Yes, it is a common problem with Panny QAM tuners.

Scott, if you want to receive all of the local HDs reliably, without frequent drops, you may have to break down and pay the monthly charge for "HD service" (which translates to a rental fee for your choice of an STB or CableCard). I went with the CableCard and haven't regretted it.

I subscribe to the lowest tier of Basic, so do not get anything more than I pay for from the digital signal -- via CableCard. But for the time being I am still getting expanded basic channels via the analog tuner in my VCR.

I guess this will go away when all content becomes encrypted. :o

raidbuck
05-15-06, 12:26 PM
I saw these messages a few days ago:
On May 31st, Shop @ Home will be added on channel 283.
On June 1st, Current (125) will move to Digital Classic from Digital Premier.


Great news! Another shopping channel. Just what HD customers needed. I'm waiting for Jewely Channel 2. That is sure to quell any requests for ESPN2HD or NGHD. :p

Rich N.

Spiderman865
05-15-06, 12:52 PM
The reason why they add these bs shopping channels is they get a piece of the sales made.

wase4711
05-15-06, 01:51 PM
Scott, if you want to receive all of the local HDs reliably, without frequent drops, you may have to break down and pay the monthly charge for "HD service" (which translates to a rental fee for your choice of an STB or CableCard).
:o

Getting an STB or Cable card doesn't guarantee problem free HD reception;
I have frequent freeze-ups/pixelation on the local hd channels with my 6412 STB/DVR; i have had several techs out here, and its still not right 100% of the time..
Wonder if Dish Network/ Direct TV has the same issues here in Chicagoland??

andyross63
05-15-06, 05:26 PM
Anyone know why my 6412 would reset itself? Seems it loses power then comes right back on. This morning a few times and tonight off and on. Ive had the box for awhile, never had this happen...any insight would be helpful.
Double-check the plug. Check both where it's plugged into the wall (or a power strip or whatever) and the back of the unit, as it is removable.
Make certain it isn't overheating.

M_Ross124
05-16-06, 11:39 AM
Did all that, just took it in and got a 3412..all is well

wase4711
05-16-06, 11:59 AM
they let you take it in and get a replacement?

Which office did that for you?
I have always been told that they do NOT allow DVR carry-ins/replacements....

M_Ross124
05-16-06, 09:24 PM
Went to the one on Wise Rd. in Shaumburg..CSR even advised.

UncD2000
05-19-06, 10:15 AM
Did anyone else experience a 6412 download around 7:50 PM Wednesday night? I got a 50-min recording of Alias as a result. After a few minutes, the DL stopped, but another one started right up. Whatever it was, nothing seems to have changed on my Phase II unit. It still has the old 9.19 FW that I always see when I check.

wase4711
05-19-06, 10:23 AM
I've had ALOT of problems with my 6412 this week; twice I had to call and have them resend my config to me..
constant freez ups on all the HD channels, also lots of macro blocking and pixelation...

I dont want to dump them and move to satalite, but these PQ problems are happening too frequently for my liking..

PhillyC
05-19-06, 10:49 AM
ADS channels for programs like Daily Show on Comedy Central and the Sox on WCIU this week have been terrible with break-ups, picture freeze, etc. (6412 P3).

gruven42
05-19-06, 10:59 AM
I don't know which date this occurred, but my 6412 now has firmware 12.31 in Oswego. Finally...

andyross63
05-19-06, 05:06 PM
Did anyone else experience a 6412 download around 7:50 PM Wednesday night? I got a 50-min recording of Alias as a result. After a few minutes, the DL stopped, but another one started right up. Whatever it was, nothing seems to have changed on my Phase II unit. It still has the old 9.19 FW that I always see when I check.
Nothing here in Schaumburg. I also have a P2.

HD Rookie
05-19-06, 05:19 PM
Did anyone else experience a 6412 download around 7:50 PM Wednesday night? I got a 50-min recording of Alias as a result. After a few minutes, the DL stopped, but another one started right up. Whatever it was, nothing seems to have changed on my Phase II unit. It still has the old 9.19 FW that I always see when I check.
Nothing at my place in Mount Prospect. I am also at 9.19.

andyross63
05-20-06, 10:53 AM
You should also double-check the Code Modules in the diagnostics. That gives the true version numbers of everything. This is mine for a P2:
BootLoader 4.41
Firmware 9.19
Object ASTGC__
VER 49.28

Also, somebody else reported their P3 or 3412 was updated to 12.31. Maybe your box caught some of that, but realized it was wrong and eventually ignored it.

vj9999
05-20-06, 11:27 AM
My 3412 has 12.31 now too.

Gov
05-21-06, 09:54 AM
Boy, INHD and INHD2 serious break ups going on for a few days now!!

Kasao
05-21-06, 02:18 PM
Yeah I've had similar problem with INHD. It actually seemed better for a day or so but is back to it's funk now.

I'm having the same problem today with Comcast Sports Net. The audio keeps cutting out and video 'blocking' around the parts of the screen updating most often. (I'm sure there's better terms for all of this, I'm new here and will learn.) Guess I'll have to watch the Cubs/Sox on WGN listening to Hawk and DJ (ugh).

On a side note. The HDMI connector on my Samsung LN-R408D died and had to be replaced. It turns out it was fixed yesterday just before the Fox broadcast of the Cubs/White Sox. Well Fox's broadcast left a lot to be desired, but at the time I thought the repair had screwed up my television. After spending the day in a sour mood I realized I just had to do a little research to find that it wasn't my television but Fox putting out a subpar product. Normally Fox is rock solid for HD broadcasts.

vj9999
05-21-06, 02:27 PM
It turns out it was fixed yesterday just before the Fox broadcast of the Cubs/White Sox. Well Fox's broadcast left a lot to be desired, but at the time I thought the repair had screwed up my television. After spending the day in a sour mood I realized I just had to do a little research to find that it wasn't my television but Fox putting out a subpar product. Normally Fox is rock solid for HD broadcasts.

The game was not in HD yesterday on fox. It was SD widescreen.

steffi
05-21-06, 08:04 PM
If I look at both RCN and Comcast for Chicago there is no sign of ESPN2 in HD. Who offers ESPN2 in HD in the Chicago area?

UncD2000
05-22-06, 01:40 PM
I get ESPN2 HD from DirecTV. I'm not aware of any local cable companies carrying it.

Kasao, I had the same experience with Comcast SportsNet HD breaking up Sunday. I wound up watching the WGN-HD video on my built-in tuner and listening to the SportsNet 5.1 audio from my 6412. I prefer the Cub announcers too.

I was getting bad breakups on Starz HD as well. Anyone else notice this? Also, the "delayed response" was the worst in my year of ownership on my 6412 last night.

FSugino
05-22-06, 02:32 PM
I was getting bad breakups on Starz HD as well. Anyone else notice this? Also, the "delayed response" was the worst in my year of ownership on my 6412 last night.
Yeah, Starz was acting up on me a few nights ago when I was trying to watch The Bourne Supremacy. Lots of blocking and lots of jittery frames. I'm also getting a lot of quick resets which break up scheduled recordings into two parts. I don't think there's much missing (maybe 10 seconds) but I've noticed that one or two of my weekly scheduled recordings have been split like this for the past few weeks.

UncD2000
05-23-06, 10:00 AM
The I-Guide now has a duplicate listing for WTTW on Ch. 94. It works if you select it, but this appears to be little more than a "virtual channel" at this point, because the QAM tuner in my LG 3410A does not get anything analog on Ch. 94, just three encrypted digitals on 94-1, 94-2, 94-3.

raidbuck
05-23-06, 10:24 AM
If I look at both RCN and Comcast for Chicago there is no sign of ESPN2 in HD. Who offers ESPN2 in HD in the Chicago area?

The Baltimore region (and others) are getting ESPN2HD on either June 1 or July 1, 2006, according to the Comcast website. Have you checked your "channels in your area?" Ours say it is coming and is listed in the channel lineup.

Rich N.

Keyhole
05-24-06, 09:11 AM
Did anyone else notice that on there non-DVR boxes there is now an option to select "record" a program when you hit the info button? I pressed record and the red dot came up the same way it does on my DVR box. I tried to change the channel and it asked me to confirm that I wanted to cancel the recording in progress.

Anyone know what's up with that? I heard a rumor that eventually you would be able to access your DVR via the non-dvr boxes, but I could not find that anywhere in the menus...

FSugino
05-24-06, 10:21 AM
I think it's probably part of the cable companies attempts to mimic DVR functionality while storing the files at the head-end. In other words, it's like recording programs for playback via the cable co's video on-demand system.

How do you playback the recordings? Do you have any new options under the on-demand section?

Keyhole
05-24-06, 10:33 AM
I searched through the On-demand menus and could not find anything.

I haven't checked to see if it ended up recording to my DVR box, which I doubt. I wonder if it is something they are implementing and this was just part 1.

PaulGo
05-24-06, 11:15 AM
From what I read it is just a convenient way of helping you use your VCR. It just reminds you not to switch or turn off the box when taping. I think it may also turn on the box at the desired time and channel but I have not tested this. I think in the next version of the software update for this box it will explain the functionality better.

cthame1
05-24-06, 10:05 PM
It seems like a great idea to network a non-DVR HD STB with a HD DVR STB. I have both the Motorola 6200 Series High Definition STB and the Motorola DCT 3412 I Dual tuner High Definition DVR that I'm renting from Comcast. (It's Comcastic, baby!)

The 6200 was the first STB I had, and I enjoyed watching High Definition content on my 26 in. Magnavox HDTV, which doubles as my PC monitor, for months. I had the 6200 hooked up to my PC via IEEE 1394 Firewire and could record anything I wanted to the PC hard drive, including content from ESPNHD, INHD, INHD2, TNT HD, DHD, & CSNHD. This was really great, until Comcast implemented the 5C encryption flag in February. ( :( What a bummer! ) I had serious withdrawal over having my HD, (and SD), recording potential restricted. I was relegated to being only able to record the Local HD channels, (187,188,189,190, 191, 192).

So, after learning its futile to try to get around 5C for recording High Definition, I went and rented the Dual Tuner HDTV DVR, the DCT 3412 from Comcast also. The DVR is good for what its suppose to do, record High Def. programs with no difference from the original airing, but it has some draw backs from the 6200. The 6200 is faster in switching channels, almost never stalls, and in my opinion gives a better quality High Def. picture. Also, it doesn't make any noise at all. The DCT 3412 sounds like an annoying buzzing insect!

Up until now I've kept both boxes, but am considering returning one. I've only got 1 HDTV, and I'm only going to really need one HD STB. If there is a way; however; that I can have the DVR in another room hooked up to my Standard Definition TV, and have it feed the non-DVR 6200 where I'd be able to acess the recorded High Def prgrams on the DVR then this will be a great way for me to keep and utilize both.

Does anyone have any further information on if this can be done? I can't imagine Comcast really putting a whole lot of support behind this, because I'd think they'd want you to just rent two DVR s for more money.

HD Rookie
05-25-06, 09:48 AM
If there is a way; however; that I can have the DVR in another room hooked up to my Standard Definition TV, and have it feed the non-DVR 6200
No, there isn't a way with the boxes you are using. Comcast is testing STBs that work in this fashion. It is (at least it was) called the Moxi (do a search, there was a thread about a year ago). As far as I know, the test market isn't in the state of IL.

cthame1
05-25-06, 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by cthame1
If there is a way; however; that I can have the DVR in another room hooked up to my Standard Definition TV, and have it feed the non-DVR 6200


No, there isn't a way with the boxes you are using. Comcast is testing STBs that work in this fashion. It is (at least it was) called the Moxi (do a search, there was a thread about a year ago). As far as I know, the test market isn't in the state of IL.

Thanks for your reply, I get my service from Comcast Mt. Prospect, also!

O.K. I kinda figured this might be the case, but there is still a way I can achieve the end effect I'm after, (being able to utilize the DVR HD recording feature and play back on my HDTV, while enjoying at the same time the nice features of the superior 6200 tuner, responsiveness, and low noise).

I'm going to hook up the 6200 to the DVI cable input of the HDTV, (4 ft.), so I'll have the High Definition like I've always had, and then run long Red, Green, and Blue, (RGB), component A/V cables along the side of the wall and floor to the other room, (30 ft) where I'll have the DCT 3412 DVR also hooked up to my Standard Definition TV.

This way, I'm switching between sources on my HDTV, (6200 tuner, and DCT 3412 DVR Recordings), and I'll have the added benefit of being able to take full advantage of my "Classic Digital Cable" subscription on the Standard Definition TV, because right now I've only got it set up to receive the line coaxial analog cable feed. I'd control the DCT 3412 from the room where the HDTV is through a wireless remote control extender, which is hardware I already have.

My obstacles would be hiding the wires so it isn't messy, finding long enough RGB cables or getting enough female to female A/V coupling fittings, and cost if I have to buy additional cabling hardware to do this. I'm not sure how much picture quality I'd be loosing by doing the long run, but I'll see how this affects things. Also, I may have issues with the sound output to the TV from the 6200 DVI connection. I currently have my 6200 set up for RGB A/V connection to my HD set, so I'm hoping I'm not going to see a drop off in going to DVI.

Does anyone think this is way to much doing or see an easier way?

HD Rookie
05-25-06, 01:51 PM
Does anyone think this is way to much doing or see an easier way?
At a minimum, you'll need to run 4-6 rca cables (3 video + 2 analog audio and/or 1 digital audio) for 30 feet. The cost of that will exceed the cost of renting another DVR for a year (which will only be $60 more after you give back the 6200).

I'm not sure if/how the long run will effect quality, but you've got to assume it probably will.

Why not just get a second box?

cthame1
05-25-06, 11:16 PM
Why not just get a second box?

After trying to do what I planned, I think you are right. There is no way to easily do what I was trying to do. I want to keep the DCT 6200 because I think the HDTV tunner is better. I also want to keep the DCT 3412 because of the recording features, but right now I can't utilize the HD features of both at the same time :( . The DCT 3412 is just sitting on the floor and not being used. I think this is the one that I'm going to take back.

Unless there is another way. Is there a way that I can wirelessly transmit the HD signal from one room to another and then have a RGB or DVI hook up to the TV. I have a wireless Audio Video Sender, 5.8 MHz that will do this now, but not for HD. Anyone hear of this?

Rammitinski
05-26-06, 03:24 PM
After trying to do what I planned, I think you are right. There is no way to easily do what I was trying to do. I want to keep the DCT 6200 because I think the HDTV tunner is better. I also want to keep the DCT 3412 because of the recording features, but right now I can't utilize the HD features of both at the same time :( . The DCT 3412 is just sitting on the floor and not being used. I think this is the one that I'm going to take back.

Unless there is another way. Is there a way that I can wirelessly transmit the HD signal from one room to another and then have a RGB or DVI hook up to the TV. I have a wireless Audio Video Sender, 5.8 MHz that will do this now, but not for HD. Anyone hear of this?I've not heard of any device that will do this, unless something's just recently hit the market that I'm not aware of.

Rammitinski
05-26-06, 03:31 PM
From what I read it is just a convenient way of helping you use your VCR. It just reminds you not to switch or turn off the box when taping. I think it may also turn on the box at the desired time and channel but I have not tested this. I think in the next version of the software update for this box it will explain the functionality better.I'm willing to bet that this is to make it easier to record to non-company DVRs, especially ones that use TVGOS. My E* tuner has just recently had a similar software update to make it more compatible. The new Panasonic and Samsung DVD/DVR's TVGOS feature will finally be compatible with satellite, and I think they also made it more compatible with digital cable boxes than it had been in the past.

About time, I'd say!! (Only SD, though.)

HD Rookie
05-26-06, 03:52 PM
I have a wireless Audio Video Sender, 5.8 MHz that will do this now, but not for HD. Anyone hear of this?
There is product by Roku Labs. I think it is called something like the HD Picture Bridge. There are free add-on products that will allow you to stream HD video and audio files from your hard drive, but I haven't heard of a way to stream HD from live tv or from a cable box.

Keyhole
05-27-06, 08:38 PM
Does Comcast offer the UFC fights tonight in HD? Or is Channel 801 my only option?

pdubyu
05-28-06, 11:06 AM
SD was the only way I could get UFC 59 live last time. Unless something has changed, the only HD I've seen has been the rebroadcasts on INHD.

wizzy
05-29-06, 02:56 PM
I might have missed this, but did the QAM channels change recently? I'm only able to get WGN on the "old" number. CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, PBS are all not coming in on the channels I had them mapped to.

I'm in Lakeview (Chicago).

Chuck7548
05-29-06, 06:02 PM
[QUOTE=Kasao]Yeah I've had similar problem with INHD. It actually seemed better for a day or so but is back to it's funk now. I'm having the same problem today with Comcast Sports Net. The audio keeps cutting out and video 'blocking' around the parts of the screen updating most often. (I'm sure there's better terms for all of this, I'm new here and will learn.)

I've had above problem for 3~4 weeks now, broke down and finally had a Comcast tech guy come out on service call last Friday 26-May. My complaint to them was since May 1 HD has been spotty and gradually getting worse [with all analog and digital channels working fine]. He checked cables inside and determined I was losing signal strength somewhere outside. After checking junction box and a call to the Elmhurst office tech guy concluded my 40 yard ground cable from junction box to my home needs to be replaced. He stated someone would call and left.

My opinion is this is BS, HD on all channels had worked almost perfect since Jan 1, my reception now is limited to late evening or early morning hours. Of my 12 HD channels, only 4 come in clear now. It's obviously a signal issue, but my last visit from a Comcast rep [in February to replace a bad modem for my internet service] confirmed signal was fine and working perfect.

Anyone have similar reception experiences-problems w/Comcast? Is this perhaps a wiring/connection issue in the outside cable box [shared by 10 other units in my complex] or is it the ground cable? Is a booster worth investigating? [and if so, any recommended model]. Sorry for all the questions, Comcast service personnel rarely can supply any answers.

Any update if/when ESPN2 and/or WCIU-26HD will be added to the Comcast lineup? Channel 208 [for months an inactive INHD channel] today received an HD feed from FSN-Houston, showing the Astros-Cardinals game. My other HD channels are all out of service, CH 208 of course came in perfect. My assumption is a new channel may be added here soon.

Chuck

betz
05-29-06, 07:12 PM
I can report some spottiness with the Comcast HD channels in the past few weeks. Comcast Sportsnet has been a bit off all along, but recently at least NBC and the INHDs have been showing some video and/or audio problems.

Regarding channel additions: On the forums.comcast.net Cable TV message board, there are subscribers from other parts of the country reporting ESPNHD2 will be added to the channel lineup on 6/1 or 7/1. Hopefully that's what they are preparing 208 for. There must be some kind of capacity increase since February, though, since they didn't use 208 for the Universal HD Olympics coverage. At that point, I heard it was because 208 was a shadow channel of another channel (sort of like 267 and 401 are both Fox Soccer Channel). Now there's apparently enough bandwidth for both INHDs and a separate broadcast on 208.

[QUOTE=Kasao]Anyone have similar reception experiences-problems w/Comcast? Is this perhaps a wiring/connection issue in the outside cable box [shared by 10 other units in my complex] or is it the ground cable? Is a booster worth investigating? [and if so, any recommended model]. Sorry for all the questions, Comcast service personnel rarely can supply any answers.

Any update if/when ESPN2 and/or WCIU-26HD will be added to the Comcast lineup? Channel 208 [for months an inactive INHD channel] today received an HD feed from FSN-Houston, showing the Astros-Cardinals game. My other HD channels are all out of service, CH 208 of course came in perfect. My assumption is a new channel may be added here soon.

Chuck

Drifty
06-01-06, 09:06 AM
There has been a fair amount of chatter in the Programming forum about new channels coming to Comcast. ESPN2 of course, plus other TBD's! Please post it here if you get any inside info in the Chicago market.

kblee
06-01-06, 09:16 AM
There has been a fair amount of chatter in the Programming forum about new channels coming to Comcast. ESPN2 of course, plus other TBD's! Please post it here if you get any inside info in the Chicago market.

I spoke to a CSR yesterday about ESPN2HD. Rather than just giving me a non-answer, as is their norm, she actually put me on hold and did some research. Apparently, her supervisor has been told that ESPN2HD is definitely coming in the near future, but they have not been given a specific date. She indicated that we should be looking for it, as it will most likely show up unnannounced.

Take it for what it's worth, but it at least gives me a glimmer of hope...

vj9999
06-01-06, 12:46 PM
Can someone check QAM 256 channel 84?

There is an encrypted video pid there that is about 8Mbps. I don't remember seeing it before. Video pid is 0x0980

I remember there only being 10 video channels there. Today there are 11. All other ones are around 3-4 Mbps.

ESPN2HD maybe? Probably wishful thinking :)

EDIT: Never mind TSReader is showing now 5Mbps for that channel.

the49ola
06-01-06, 02:40 PM
Sorry if this has already been covered, but can anyone tell me if channel 1000, which has the call numbers BAKER is anything important. I came across it on my tv with the cablecard a few weeks ago. It shows the VOD preview channel in split screen. The following channels, 100-1-1036 all say VOCD but I can not tune them in.

andyross63
06-01-06, 05:01 PM
Can someone check QAM 256 channel 84?

There is an encrypted video pid there that is about 8Mbps. I don't remember seeing it before. Video pid is 0x0980

I remember there only being 10 video channels there. Today there are 11. All other ones are around 3-4 Mbps.

ESPN2HD maybe? Probably wishful thinking :)

EDIT: Never mind TSReader is showing now 5Mbps for that channel.
Here in Schaumburg, there is supposed to be a new channel 283 (Shop @ Home) on 5/31. So far, I don't have it. Maybe they were setting it up?

The change that moved Current (125) to Digital Plus has gone into effect.

the49ola
06-01-06, 08:07 PM
Is it me or does everyone else have two Current channels, 107, and 125.

Rammitinski
06-02-06, 12:57 AM
Here in Schaumburg, there is supposed to be a new channel 283 (Shop @ Home) on 5/31. So far, I don't have it. Maybe they were setting it up?

The change that moved Current (125) to Digital Plus has gone into effect.Are you sure of that? I just read recently that one of the big shopping channels was going under and I could swear it was Shop @ Home.

vj9999
06-02-06, 01:12 AM
Shop @ Home will not show up most likely because Scripps pulled a plug on it :)

http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArticle.aspx?type=media&storyID=nWEN7775

vj9999
06-02-06, 01:18 AM
Shop @ Home will not show up most likely because Scripps pulled a plug on it :)

http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArticle.aspx?type=media&storyID=nWEN7775

STayfair
06-02-06, 06:20 AM
Has anyone tested their download speeds lately?

I recently had the line from the box in the back yard to my house replaced so I decided to check my speeds and this morning have consistently pulled 29,000kbps down. A time or two I topped 31,000kbps down.

Upload has been consistently 350kbps or so.

Thoughts?

(I know it's off topic...but this is just a quick one time question because I'm familiar with this thread, a little mercy please :D )

vj9999
06-02-06, 09:06 AM
I have the higher speed tier and my speed for past month or so has been:

12500 d/l and 705 u/l

TWinbrook46636
06-02-06, 03:10 PM
Comcast is testing out "bursting" technology where your downloads will start off much faster than your regular speed but drop back down to normal levels after about 10 to 15 seconds. Speed tests generally won't show this as they don't last long enough so try downloading a large file from a fast server and watch the speeds. Akamai's servers are fast so try downlaoding iTunes from Apple as a test.

Comcast is also testing out a 16Mb speed tier in some areas, typically where Verizon has FIOS. It's possible those on the 6Mb tier will move to 8Mb and those on 8Mb will move to 16Mb but time will tell. Right now they seem to be mainly concerned with competing where Verizon offers service.

TWinbrook46636
06-02-06, 03:16 PM
Looks like there was a press release. Note they are confusing megabytes with megabits.

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Comcast gives speed boost for large Web downloads
Thu Jun 1, 2006 1:18 PM ET
NEW YORK, June 1 (Reuters) - Comcast Corp. (CMCSA.O: Quote, Profile, Research), the leading U.S. cable operator, said on Thursday it will provide subscribers technology to increase the speed of their Internet connections, particularly to help transmit bandwidth-heavy video and music files.

Comcast developed the technology, called PowerBoost, to use existing capacity within its network to a speed of 12 to 16 megabytes per-second on services which generally transmit at 6 to 8 megabytes per second.

It said the service will kick in automatically for its 9 million high-speed Internet subscribers at no extra charge when a customer downloads a large file such as software applications, games, music and video.

The Philadelphia-based company launched the service without fanfare in its New England region markets last month after a trial period. A company spokeswoman said it expects to roll out the service nationally by the end of the year.


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STayfair
06-02-06, 05:19 PM
Comcast is testing out "bursting" technology where your downloads will start off much faster than your regular speed but drop back down to normal levels after about 10 to 15 seconds. Speed tests generally won't show this as they don't last long enough so try downloading a large file from a fast server and watch the speeds. Akamai's servers are fast so try downlaoding iTunes from Apple as a test.

Comcast is also testing out a 16Mb speed tier in some areas, typically where Verizon has FIOS. It's possible those on the 6Mb tier will move to 8Mb and those on 8Mb will move to 16Mb but time will tell. Right now they seem to be mainly concerned with competing where Verizon offers service.

Interesting, thanks for the heads up.

I guess I picked the right time to check my download speeds (I should say I picked the right time to have my electrical company slash my phone/internet/cable TV lines in my back yard). Not that I needed that to happen to get the burst, but I wouldn't have checked my speed if not for the cable being replaced.

andyross63
06-02-06, 05:20 PM
Is it me or does everyone else have two Current channels, 107, and 125.
I noticed that too. Maybe somebody goofed. Both are on the same frequency, so are probably the same subchannel, too (just like G4.)

andyross63
06-02-06, 05:23 PM
Anybody been having cable modem connection problems the past month or so? My modem keeps losing the upstream (sticks at SEND flashing) for a few minutes to a few hours. I've had Comcast here 3 times, and they can find nothing wrong. When the modem goes dead, so does OnDemand. It happened several times today. Due to this, and the fact that I work from home and need RELIABLE service, I now have DSL, too. Mostly as a backup for now, but I may make it permanent if this keeps up. 16M sounds nice, but only when the modem works!

STayfair
06-02-06, 05:48 PM
Anybody been having cable modem connection problems the past month or so? My modem keeps losing the upstream (sticks at SEND flashing) for a few minutes to a few hours. I've had Comcast here 3 times, and they can find nothing wrong. When the modem goes dead, so does OnDemand. It happened several times today. Due to this, and the fact that I work from home and need RELIABLE service, I now have DSL, too. Mostly as a backup for now, but I may make it permanent if this keeps up. 16M sounds nice, but only when the modem works!

I live in Schaumburg too but haven't noticed any problems to speak of. I'm not on all the time but certainly haven't noticed any problems while on.

I live near Salem and Weathersfield.

HD Rookie
06-02-06, 06:10 PM
Anybody been having cable modem connection problems the past month or so? My modem keeps losing the upstream (sticks at SEND flashing) for a few minutes to a few hours. I've had Comcast here 3 times, and they can find nothing wrong. When the modem goes dead, so does OnDemand. It happened several times today. Due to this, and the fact that I work from home and need RELIABLE service, I now have DSL, too. Mostly as a backup for now, but I may make it permanent if this keeps up. 16M sounds nice, but only when the modem works!
We noticed our service wasn't working last weekend. It finally began working again on Wednesday. They guy across the street from me had no inturruption during this same period. What is weird and I never thought anything about it was a VOD outage (because I rarely use it). But, it was out on Monday when I tried to use it.

vj9999
06-02-06, 07:51 PM
My upstream has been goofing up for a while too. It is only a problem when it is using channel id 7. After few reboots if it grabs channel id 11 for upstream it works much much better.

andyross63
06-03-06, 10:52 AM
My upstream has been goofing up for a while too. It is only a problem when it is using channel id 7. After few reboots if it grabs channel id 11 for upstream it works much much better.
Mine keeps bouncing bewteen id5 (24.0MHz) and 6 (20.8MHz). I'm near Plum Grove and Schaumburg roads. Checking the modem's log, it appears to have reconnected around 9:57pm yesterday, and had a 'T3 timeout' around 9am. At the moment, it's on id5 with 48db upstream. It's connected to my only Comcast outlet through a tap instead of a splitter.

vj9999
06-03-06, 11:03 AM
I have T3 timeouts in the log too every time there is an upstream slowdown.

Scott Stevens
06-03-06, 03:55 PM
I know way back when cable carried local FM radio signals as well, and you could just hook right to your receiver. Does Comcast still do this?

Thanks,
Scott

the49ola
06-03-06, 10:46 PM
Not that I am aware of. I remember getting Cable TV for the first time back in 1982 and the installer telling us we could get MTV in surround sound by tunning our stero to a certain station. We did it and thought it was just the coolest thing, TV on the radio.

vj9999
06-06-06, 02:02 AM
Channel 100 seems to be a valid QAM 256 tonight with 15 encrypted channels on it. I could swear it was not there before. Can somebody else on Schaumburg headend check it out?

Thanks.

STayfair
06-06-06, 08:18 PM
Anyone else have too many video breakups on WGN to watch the Cubs game? Audio is pretty good, but the picture is unwatchable.

UncD2000
06-07-06, 08:25 AM
Thanks for posting this. I ran into this on a 1-hr segment of the game (8-9PM) that I recorded on my LG DVR from 9-1. I thought the DVR was having problems, but I guess it was in the OTA transmission. I watched the 7-8 PM and post-9PM segments from my Comcast 6412 DVR, and there were no problems with WGN-HD there.

dsanders16
06-07-06, 09:14 PM
Well I didnt feel like going through 148 pages to find this answer, but does anyone have their QAM tuner capable tv hooked up without the box, do you still get the HD feeds of the local channels?

goaliebob99
06-07-06, 09:25 PM
Well I didnt feel like going through 148 pages to find this answer, but does anyone have their QAM tuner capable tv hooked up without the box, do you still get the HD feeds of the local channels?

YES

dsanders16
06-07-06, 09:35 PM
YES
Thanks, picking up the new TV soon and wanted to watch the NBA finals without waiting on comcast.

Scott Stevens
06-08-06, 08:15 AM
Thanks, picking up the new TV soon and wanted to watch the NBA finals without waiting on comcast.

What tv? I've got a new Panny hooked up this way, but can't receive WLS or WGN on the QAM tuner (seems to be a known issue with the Panny tuners).

Spiderman865
06-08-06, 01:05 PM
Anyone else notice Current TV on channels 107 and also on 125? WTF? :confused: Is this what Comcast considers adding new channels? :D

kblee
06-08-06, 01:34 PM
Anyone else notice Current TV on channels 107 and also on 125? WTF? :confused: Is this what Comcast considers adding new channels? :D

Yeah - that was mentioned by somebody else last week.

Anyone see anything strange that may indicate the addition of ESPN2HD here in Chicago? Rumor has it that it will be added today in several markets. We can only hope...

kevin j
06-08-06, 02:59 PM
Not as of yet but there's still hope.

andyross63
06-08-06, 05:12 PM
Anyone else notice Current TV on channels 107 and also on 125? WTF? :confused: Is this what Comcast considers adding new channels? :D
There was also supposed to be a shopping channel added, but it was canceled at the last second. Maybe they dup'd Current as a filler for the time being. Or maybe they will be rearranging some channels.

thezodad
06-08-06, 07:14 PM
ESPN2 will launch in certain areas of Chicago tomorrow on channel 203 in time for the WC opening game. No details as to which parts of town will get it.

pdubyu
06-08-06, 11:33 PM
I'm in the South Loop and am getting it now.

jeff96gt
06-08-06, 11:55 PM
ESPN2 will launch in certain areas of Chicago tomorrow on channel 203 in time for the WC opening game. No details as to which parts of town will get it.

It's already on over here in NW Indiana. Channel 203. Guide says "To be announced" but it is already on. They are obviously working out the kinks because it is pixellating really bad right now.

theguest
06-09-06, 05:58 AM
Schaumburg, just showed up on 203

MarcVoc
06-09-06, 08:47 AM
It was on in Huntley this morning, channel 203.

Thanks Comcast!! Now...how about HDNet?!?! :rolleyes:

andyross63
06-09-06, 05:15 PM
Here in Schaumburg, ESPN2-HD is at 807MHz (Analog 126). As far as I can tell, it's the only one, so there could be another HD, or several SD channels added. Somebody also mentioned seeing a bunch of encrypted channels on analog 100 (651MHz). I don't have anything on that frequency in my big Excel sheet.

PhillyC
06-09-06, 05:27 PM
Yippee!! ESPN2-HD in Chicago, near north.

dsanders16
06-09-06, 05:48 PM
What tv? I've got a new Panny hooked up this way, but can't receive WLS or WGN on the QAM tuner (seems to be a known issue with the Panny tuners).
Sony 50" XDR1

mikek747
06-09-06, 07:17 PM
It's on here in Highland Park, but more importantly, it appears that the Cubs game on Comcast Sportsnet is being broadcast in HD from Cincinnatti. This is the first time I can remember a road game showing up in HD. I'm excited.

Mike K.

Kipp Jones
06-09-06, 08:26 PM
Dg!!!

theguest
06-09-06, 08:37 PM
It was on in Huntley this morning, channel 203.

Thanks Comcast!! Now...how about HDNet?!?! :rolleyes:

WCIU please!

How ironic, "Tonight's White Sox broadcast in High Definition on WCIU is brought to you by Comcast", uhhh...

Kipp Jones
06-09-06, 08:43 PM
I am now happy that I can watch the Sox in HD when they are on ESPN2.

kblee
06-09-06, 08:52 PM
It's on here in Highland Park, but more importantly, it appears that the Cubs game on Comcast Sportsnet is being broadcast in HD from Cincinnatti. This is the first time I can remember a road game showing up in HD. I'm excited.

Mike K.

I'm seeing a widescreen picture but it's definitely not HD. Looks like the old "Fox Widescreen" that we had for football before they went HD.

FSugino
06-09-06, 10:11 PM
I'm seeing a widescreen picture but it's definitely not HD. Looks like the old "Fox Widescreen" that we had for football before they went HD.
Yeah, I gotta agree - this isn't HD, just widescreen.

the49ola
06-09-06, 10:13 PM
Yes, also notice the streched mode. Hopefully Dempster doesn't blow it.

vj9999
06-10-06, 12:22 AM
Here in Schaumburg, ESPN2-HD is at 807MHz (Analog 126). As far as I can tell, it's the only one, so there could be another HD, or several SD channels added. Somebody also mentioned seeing a bunch of encrypted channels on analog 100 (651MHz). I don't have anything on that frequency in my big Excel sheet.

It is on 807Mhz here as well. It is 18-19Mbps . There is nothing else on there but free bandwidth for another channel :) There is about 19-20 Mbps left.

dgordo
06-10-06, 12:36 AM
I am getting a lot of pixilization on all my channels and drop outs. Anyone else having this problem?

alleng
06-10-06, 12:41 AM
The cub game was not in HD. Though it was nice to at least the whole wide screen. I don't know how but the Cubs managed to win that game. I think I bit off all my nails on that one.

alleng
06-10-06, 12:42 AM
Pixilization has been bad recently. I hope it will go away soon.

BeeTee
06-10-06, 01:37 AM
It is on 807Mhz here as well. It is 18-19Mbps . There is nothing else on there but free bandwidth for another channel :) There is about 19-20 Mbps left.

Is this encrypted? I don't see anything on 807Mhz in Buffalo Grove area. I've heard it's on channel 203, how do comcast map the channel number to frequency?

Thanks.

UncD2000
06-10-06, 09:34 AM
ESPN2 HD is encrypted here on QAM Ch. 126-4. Makes you wonder why INHD2 had to be pre-empted to make room for Universal HD during the Olympics. I think Ch. 121 is also available, so there seems to be room for at least 3 HD channels, one on 126 and two on 121.

There is no relationship between a "virtual" channel number like 203 and the actual frequency.

The widescreen rendering of last night's Cub game was probably some type of progressive stretch rather than the 480P (true) widescreen that Fox is currently using on the Saturday regional games. It was far from HD, but I think I liked it better than the usual 4:3 that CSN HD had been using for road games. Maybe someone from Comcast will chime in and tell us exactly what they were doing, and if it will continue for future Cubs/Sox road games.

andyross63
06-10-06, 09:51 AM
One potential problem I noticed is that both ESPN2HD on 203 and ESPN2 on 60 are listed as ESPN2 in the guide. That could cause any series recordings to sometimes record the wrong channel. They should rename the HD version to somethig like ESPN2D, or if that's too long, ES2D?

andyross63
06-10-06, 09:53 AM
ESPN2 HD is encrypted here on QAM Ch. 126-4. Makes you wonder why INHD2 had to be pre-empted to make room for Universal HD during the Olympics. I think Ch. 121 is also available, so there seems to be room for at least 3 HD channels, one on 126 and two on 121.
They probably used INHD2 because it was an already configured and tested channel. Adding a channel means adding equipment, testing and configuring it, and reprogramming the boxes to tune the new channel.
There are lots of open frequencies, but some are used for modems, and some for OnDemand. It's possible that is what analog 100 was being used for. Maybe they got smart and are starting to encrypt them.

the49ola
06-10-06, 01:16 PM
Just noticed on my channel lineup that channel 203 is listed as ESPN2HD when going to the Comcast website. Hopefully this means this is a permanent channel.

drebnord
06-10-06, 06:58 PM
Still no ESPN2-HD in Buffalo Grove. Anyone on the Rolling Meadows headend getting it?

crcostel
06-10-06, 07:00 PM
Coming in great in the West Loop. WTG Comcast! Hopefully they won't drop it once the WC ends. Now we just need UniversalHD! Even though I'm a Sox fan I'd rather have that then WCIU which I can get OTA.

Chris

2muchtv
06-10-06, 07:55 PM
Still no ESPN2-HD in Buffalo Grove. Anyone on the Rolling Meadows headend getting it?

No ESPN2-HD here in Palatine (Rolling Meadows head-end) yet.

UncD2000
06-11-06, 11:02 AM
Saturday's Cub game was again in widescreen. Anyone have any info on whether this is true 16:9? I was about 30 min behind the live telecast on my 6412, so I couldn't compare Ch. 200 with the 4:3 SD on Ch. 37. Whatever it is, it looks good and I hope it continues on future Cubs/Sox road games carried by CSN. Maybe Ch. 9 will have this as well - we'll see today at Noon.

John151
06-11-06, 11:24 AM
Newbie question here:

I just purchased a Panny Plasma, and have the cable coax going directly into the unit (i.e. no cable box). I get exactly two channels in HD: NBC (5-5) and Fox (12-2). This is great because I wasn't expecting this. However, I am curious why I only get these two channels. Also, there a lots of channels that the TV's autoscan picked up on, but are either completely blank, or just audio, or just video (some appear to be music channels). These are all channels where there are two numbers, such as 117-1. Is there any way I can pull in more of the HD channel? Also, what is the deal with the fractional channels (i.e. 117-1)?

Your input is greatly appreciated.

andyross63
06-11-06, 04:21 PM
Newbie question here:

I just purchased a Panny Plasma, and have the cable coax going directly into the unit (i.e. no cable box). I get exactly two channels in HD: NBC (5-5) and Fox (12-2). This is great because I wasn't expecting this. However, I am curious why I only get these two channels. Also, there a lots of channels that the TV's autoscan picked up on, but are either completely blank, or just audio, or just video (some appear to be music channels). These are all channels where there are two numbers, such as 117-1. Is there any way I can pull in more of the HD channel? Also, what is the deal with the fractional channels (i.e. 117-1)?
Digital channels are encoded as analog signals using the standard 6MHz spaced analog frequency channels. Being digital, that 6MHz space can be divided up any way they want. That is why you have subchannels. With a cable box or CableCard, it will translate the channel and subchannel to an easier to use one (for example here in Schaumburg, NBCD = 115.5 direct = 188 cable box/CableCard.

Typically, Comcast tends to put 2 HD channels together, or up to 12-15 SD channels, or any combination thereof. For audio-only music channels (MusicChoice and DMX), you can get MANY channels packed together. Many of those that are blank may be encrypted. Without a CableCard you will not be able to receive them, or they may just not work right.

As to why you don't get more HD, it's hard to say. Some TV's seem to have problems with the way some signals are encoded, or signal strength and noise may be marginal. Sometimes, it may take a few autoscans to grab everything.

kblee
06-11-06, 04:47 PM
Saturday's Cub game was again in widescreen. Anyone have any info on whether this is true 16:9? I was about 30 min behind the live telecast on my 6412, so I couldn't compare Ch. 200 with the 4:3 SD on Ch. 37. Whatever it is, it looks good and I hope it continues on future Cubs/Sox road games carried by CSN. Maybe Ch. 9 will have this as well - we'll see today at Noon.

I didn't see Saturday's game, but Friday's was definitely "true 16x9" SD. I annoyed my wife by flipping between channel 200 and 37 for several minutes trying to make the determination.