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Savman

10-26-07, 10:34 PM

I don't know if this is relevant to anyone on here or not( and I also don't if you already know this), but I just did a scan(first in 2-3 months) on my DTV( a CATV scan since I have Comcast) and discovered that Comcast is now broadcasting about 38(including those already in digital such as Headline, HGTV, and TWC) of their channels within the 1-72 range(on regular analog spectrum) in digital format. The digital broadcasts are only available via DTV now, and have not been mapped to their STBs(if anyone has one of these).

I didn't record the specific channel numbers but the channels include:

QVC
WGN
Inspirational Network
Trinity Broadcasting
Comcast Sports Network
Travel Channel
C-SPAN
CNN
Country Music Television
Great American Country
Video Hits 1
Music Television
Black Entertainment Television
Comedy Central
SCI-FI
USA Network
TNT
fX Network
Arts & Entertainment
Food Network
Lifetime
TV One
TV Land
Animal Planet
EWTN
Nickelodeon
Disney Channel
Cartoon Network
American Movie Classics
Home Shopping Network
The Learning Channel
Discovery Health
History Channel
Discovery Channel
TBS
Golf Channel

Savman

10-27-07, 08:21 PM

Well, as suggested by my post, you may want to rescan if you have Comcast. They seemed to have moved several digital channels while adding quite a bit.

oljim

10-30-07, 03:55 PM

Whats up with WGSA,I now get it on 34-1 and 35-1 test on 34 and blank on 35

SamoaJoe

10-30-07, 05:54 PM

Savman

10-31-07, 04:06 PM

Got some mail from Comcast today stating the usual end of the year rate hikes. But also included is news of new HD channels coming December 1st. Discovery HD, TLC HD, Animal Planet HD and WGSA-CW HD. It also says we should have USA HD right now but it doesn't show up on my guide. I never would have imagined we'd have CW HD before ABC. I don't know how any of this relates to all the non-comcast users on the board.
Well, all we have is TBSHD and CNNHD as recent additions, I'm sure that there is no USAHD. I want to know when Comcast will digital simulcast more of the analog channels. I mean, as I have said, I already receive about half of their line-up in digital format via my QAM tuner, but they have yet to map it to their cable boxes.

Launchpad

11-01-07, 07:16 AM

I never would have imagined we'd have CW HD before ABC.

Ridiculous and surprising that ABC would allow an affiliate to continue like this in a market this large. I just hope WJCL (ABC) can get their act together before Lost begins in February. Is that too much to hope for??

paulzoom

11-01-07, 08:59 AM

Can someone tell me if TBSHD and CNNHD are available on QAM channels and what number they are?

bryan92

11-01-07, 10:06 AM

Ridiculous and surprising that ABC would allow an affiliate to continue like this in a market this large. I just hope WJCL (ABC) can get their act together before Lost begins in February. Is that too much to hope for??
And WTGS for 24. :D

Launchpad

11-12-07, 11:01 AM

Anyone else having issues with the Comcast HD/DVR HDMI? The HDMI connection is very problematic on my TV. I understand this is a firmware issue in the box. Comcast has released an update (in February this year!) that is supposed to fix it, but it has NOT been implemented in our area yet.
The update replaces 16.20 with 16.3x or 16.4x...
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR/Firmware_and_Software
I contacted tech support at Comcast and they told me to just take my box in to the payment center to get it updated or replaced. I took the box in and they looked at me like I was crazy! Luckily, someone walked up who knew a little about it and he said they were "staging" for that update, but he couldn't tell me when it would take place or if it would automatically be sent out (I'm pretty sure it would be...).

Does anyone know if brand new boxes in this area come with the new firmware (16.3x or 4x)? Tech support seemed to think they did, but the folks at the payment center said no...

I don't want to get a new box unless I have to though, don't want to lose the recorded stuff and have to redo all those series. I really wish they could have told me when the firmware upgrade will be sent out.

Eddie39

11-12-07, 06:58 PM

This is a email I sent to WTOC and their response.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie Owens [mailto:eddieowens@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:39 PM
To: Pedersen, Neil
Subject: 5.1 audio

Neil,

Do you have a date when WTOC will start transmitting 5.1 audio? I
really enjoy your digital programming but to have the 5.1 audio would be even
better.

Eddie in Beaufort

Their reply:
Sorry but no date yet.

Neil Pedersen
Chief Engineer, WTOC-TV, WTOC -DTV
11 The News Place
Savannah, GA. 31405

bmeeks8

11-12-07, 07:08 PM

I saw a couple of posts earlier about some folks receiving WGSA-DT on channel 35 (34-1). Is it still up? I'm not receiving anything here in Vidalia. I get a very crappy picture on analog 34 over the air, though. Maybe I'm a little too far out or I don't have the antenna pointed quite right... :)

According to info on the FCC site, they are in active construction of their DTV facility and were mounting the antenna on the tower. They are sharing a tower with other broadcasters according to a write-up on the FCC site. From the geographic coordinates and the FAA structure number, it appears they are co-locating their antena with WTGS (the Fox station). On that tower and with 1000 kW ERP, I should be getting them here at night if they are up yet. That's why I'm checking to see what others are getting.

Also, on the WTOC news about Dolby 5.1-- I would love to see - er, hear- that, too :D

Saltwater Cowboy

11-13-07, 04:19 PM

I did a rescan last night and went through and recorded all of the channels, so I thought I would share with everyone. I am still looking for Toon Disney which I can't seem to find. If anyone knows that channel I would appreciate it.

Channel # Channel Description
3-1 NBC HD
3-2 MY TV
11-1 CBS HD
11-2 WTOC Dopper Max Weather
15-1 MOJO HD
48-3 Discovery HD
73-1 NBC
73-2 ABC
73-3 FOX
73-4 CBS
73-5 GA PBS
73-6 DIRECTV
73-7 The CW
73-8 FX
73-9 TV Land
73-10 ESPN
73-11 ESPN2
73-12 ESPNEWS
74-1 TLC
74-2 VH1
74-3 MTV
74-4 BET
74-5 Comedy Central
74-6 Sci Fi
74-7 USA
74-8 Nickelodeon
74-9 Disney Channel
74-10 Cartoon Network
74-11 Discovery Channel
74-12 AMC
75-1 Discovery Health
75-2 QVC
75-3 Travel Channel
75-4 C-SPAN
75-5 C-SPAN2
75-6 CNN
75-7 CNN Headline News
75-8 GAC
75-9 * same as 53
75-10 Animal Planet
75-11 HSN
75-12 Golf Channel
76-1 WGN Superstation
76-2 Christian?
76-3 EWTN (Catholic)
76-4 Christian?
76-5 History Channel
76-6 A&E
76-7 Food Network
76-8 Lifetime
76-9 HG TV
76-10 TBS
76-11 TNT
76-12 sportSOUTH
77-1 ION
77-2 CMT
77-3 style
77-4 E!
77-5 GSN
77-6 SPIKE
77-7 Hallmark
77-8 Bravo
77-9 MSNBC
77-10 Bravo
77-11 ABC Family
77-12 Fox News
78-1 ESPANOL
78-2 SPEED
78-3 VS (versus)
78-4 TV Guide
78-5 Savannah
78-6 Savannah 2
78-7 Savannah 3
78-8 Weather Channel - SAV
79-1 ESPNEWS
79-6 NBC
79-7 ABC
79-8 CBS
79-9 CBS
81-1 ESPN2 HD
81-2 Music HD
82-1 Food Network HD
82-2 HG TV HD
82-3 FOX HD
83-2 C-SPAN2
83-6 HG TV
83-8 CNN Headline News
83-10 Weather Channel - Hinesville
84-1 NBA League Pass
87-10 TNT HD
89-1 ESPN HD
92-11 On Demand
92-12 On Demand
92-13 On Demand
92-14 On Demand
92-15 On Demand
93-11 On Demand
93-12 On Demand
93-13 On Demand
93-14 On Demand
93-15 On Demand
94-11 On Demand
94-12 On Demand
94-13 On Demand
94-14 On Demand
94-15 On Demand
100-11 On Demand
100-12 On Demand
100-13 On Demand
100-14 On Demand
100-15 On Demand
101-1 sports ON DEMAND
102-1 A&E HD
102-3 NA
104-1 NBA TV - no sound
104-4 Court TV - no sound
104-7 The CW
106-7 Fox Sports Network - Southwest
106-8 ESPN Gameplan
106-9 ESPN Gameplan
106-10 ESPN Gameplan
106-11 ESPN Gameplan
106-12 ESPN Gameplan
113-1 IN DEMAND EVENTS
113-8 Universal HD
114-2 LMN - no sound
114-7 BIO TV - no sound
114-8 Catholic TV - no sound
115-1 Music - showcase
115-2 Music - R&B Hits
115-3 Music - Electronica
115-4 Music - Rock
115-5 Music - Bluegrass
115-6 Music - Sounds of the Seasons
115-7 Music - Kidz Only
115-8 Music - Reggae
115-9 Music - R&B Soul
115-10 Music - Classic R&B
115-11 Music - Hip Hop and R&B
115-12 Music - Dance
115-13 Music - RAP
115-14 Music - METAL
115-15 Music - Alternative
115-16 Music - Adult Alternative
115-17 Music - Classic Rock
115-18 Music - Arena Rock
115-19 Music - Lite Hits
115-20 Music - Hit List
115-21 Music - 80's
115-22 Music - 70's
115-23 Music - Solid Gold Oldies
115-24 Music - Today's Country
115-25 Music - Classic Country
115-26 Music - Big Band & Swing
115-27 Music - Singers & Standards
115-28 Music - Easy Listening
115-29 Music - Classical Masterpieces
115-30 Music - Lite Classical
115-31 Music - Soundscapes
115-32 Music - Smooth Jazz
115-33 Music - Jazz
115-34 Music - Blues
115-35 Music - Gospel
115-36 Music - Contemporary Christian
115-37 Music - Musica Urbana (latin)
115-38 Music - Salsa Y Merengue
115-39 Music - 90's
115-40 Music - Pop Latino
115-41 Music - Party Favorites
115-42 Music - Showtunes
115-43 Music - Adult Top 40
115-44 Music - Retro Active
115-45 Mexicana
115-46 Rock en Espanol

suki84

11-13-07, 05:19 PM

102-3 is FSN HD when they air national (col. b-ball or col. f-ball) or a limited number of Atlanta sports teams games.

Savman

11-13-07, 08:11 PM

Southeastga

11-13-07, 08:30 PM

[QUOTE=bmeeks8;12197866]I saw a couple of posts earlier about some folks receiving WGSA-DT on channel 35 (34-1). Is it still up? I'm not receiving anything here in Vidalia. I get a very crappy picture on analog 34 over the air, though. Maybe I'm a little too far out or I don't have the antenna pointed quite right... :)

It lasted about a week with those colored bars at 4:3 480i. Signal was about 55% 8 miles south of Metter. They definitely have a very crappy picture on Directv not worth watching it was so fuzzy.

The WTGS signal has been stronger as of lately.......

Southeastga

11-14-07, 08:40 PM

The colored bars on WGSA have returned tonight still 480i 4:3 and 77% signal on the Directv HR20

The ABC/FOX crew has been making a few changes, so maybe they'll get their act together....
http://savdailynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=14&SubSectionID=165&ArticleID=11604

oljim

11-15-07, 10:35 AM

I did a scan back 2 weeks ago and had 34-1 and 35-1, today I have 34-1 with color bars at 92-94 signal, not sure about the tower location, I have my ant pointed at the WSAV/WTOC location

oljim

11-15-07, 11:02 AM

I just looked at antenna web. It does not list 34-1 it says 50.
Went to TVFOL and is has 34-1 tower same as other stations towers

bmeeks8

11-15-07, 05:54 PM

Southeastga

11-15-07, 07:04 PM

No joy for me today at 5:50 PM on WGSA. Nothing on digital. Of course I have the DirecTV HR20 and it can't scan OTA. You can only tune to what they feed down from their database. It does not list WTGS at all, and I'm not positive it has WGSA's correct data.

Smallville and Supernatural are on in HD tonight, however they don't look that great with the 4:3 480i

I can't get WTGS ota with my HR20, however my tv has a built in tuner.

The CW out of Augusta 26-2 looks better than WGSA and their both at 4:3 480i. Must be the equipment they're using to broadcast.

paulzoom

11-16-07, 09:36 AM

3-1 NBC HD
3-2 MY TV
11-1 CBS HD
11-2 WTOC Dopper Max Weather

I don't get these stations on those channels. Mine are something like in the 107 range. Are my stations going to change after I rescan?

oljim

11-16-07, 11:58 AM

I think WSGA has repeters around different parts of the area, I know they have one a mile from me and it is ch 32, I can also get it on ch 50

Saltwater Cowboy

11-16-07, 02:08 PM

Paulzoom,

I don't think a rescan will change the channels, it doesn't for me. It should just pick up any channels that have been added since the last scan, and remove channels that have been dropped.

I've also noticed that the channel numbers at my house seem to be different from friends in other locations. I don't know why.

I'm in the Isle of Hope area.

flimflamini

11-24-07, 09:46 PM

Actually, if they give you a waiver for SD, you can automatically get HD if you make the request. I am not going that route, because getting the local stations to sign off on a waiver is virtually impossible. I've been down that path before.

But, according to two different techs in tech support at DirecTV, a waiver for HD only may be possible without the approval of the local stations if they are not broadcasting in HD. In fact, one tech that had success with this before actually filled out the request for me. In my way of thinking it sounds to good to be true, but I'll have an answer in a few weeks one way or the other....
Any news on this waiver issue? Very interested.

cappy1

11-25-07, 09:15 AM

Any news on this waiver issue? Very interested.

I haven't heard a word, but I will call them in a week or so. I really am not optimistic about this, so don't get your hopes up.

MasturB

12-03-07, 03:48 AM

Is there any other Comcast user here that has information on why I haven't gotten USA HD (420), Discovery Channel HD, Animal Planet HD, and TLC HD added yet?

The other night, I noticed that I was getting Discovery Channel HD, AP HD,and TLC HD but then suddenly they disappeared.

The flyer Comcast sent out last month said I should already be receiving USA-HD, but I'm not getting it. Comcast flyer said all of these channels would be added by December, including CW-HD (436).

--

lastly, does anyone know why we do not get ABC-HD in our area? I think it's absurd that a market the size of the Savannah area does not get an ABC-HD channel. I'm mad i'm going to miss the Capitol One and Rose Bowls because I don't get ABC-HD.

hoppo42

12-03-07, 10:39 AM

Mastrb,
Join the club weve been singing that song for almost 3 years now. I wouldnt hold my breath for ABC.

Eddie39

12-03-07, 11:54 AM

paulzoom

12-03-07, 12:54 PM

I'm having a strange problem that maybe someone can answer. I get Fox HS on channel 82-3. Every time I store it in my favorites, the next day it's gone. I'll enter it again, put it in my favorites again and again it's gone. This only happens with Fox. I always receive the channel fine so I can't figure out why it's happening.

suki84

12-03-07, 03:33 PM

Has anybody found these new HD channels on QAM?

Savman

12-03-07, 05:35 PM

MasturB

12-03-07, 07:55 PM

What area do you live in?

Near Downtown. Down the street from Daffin Park.

rjknyy

12-04-07, 06:14 PM

34-1 the CW coming in loud and clear here on direcTV OTA tonight. Nothing in HD now but The Reaper is scheduled to be in HD at 9:00.

MasturB

12-05-07, 12:34 AM

I checked my HD channels today, happy to see that CW (WGSA) is now in HD.

I'm pissed that Discovery channel HD was added then removed a few days ago. Ii wanted to watch Planet Earth.

OriginalManD

12-10-07, 11:17 AM

Can anyone else confirm this for me.

I did a scan this morning on my Samsung (QAM / OTA) on Comcast and noticed all the HD stations are gone except the local stations...

mojo, universal, tnt, discovery hd theater,A&E, Food, HDTV, Espn, and music HD are all gone

suki84

12-10-07, 04:59 PM

My Samsung box is doing the same thing, I had the HD channels this morning, and at lunch they were gone and are still gone.

paulzoom

12-10-07, 07:54 PM

yikes, me too.

derf_man

12-10-07, 10:20 PM

Comcast pulled the plug on the HD channels and aren't likely to unscample them. Can't say that I blame them though. However, I still get a large number of digital channels. I just got my Samsung LN-T5271f so I'm new at this. Comcast will rent you an HD box for $6.95 a month(or so their web-site says) or a DVR-HDTV unit for $13.95/month. I assume these HD units has an HDMI output or at least a component output. Why couldn't you use a signal splitter(I read on one thread where the cable co. would supply you with one - but this seems unlikely with Comcast)? You can buy them at any electronic store. Feed one output of the splitter to the HD box and the other to the cable input on the TV. Connect the output of the Hd box(HDMI) to one of the HDMI inputs. Using the input selection on the Samsung menu select the HDMI to watch the HD channels or select the TV input(QAM tuner) to watch all the rest.

paulzoom

12-10-07, 10:32 PM

How are you sure that Comcast pulled the plug on HDTV? Any chance that this could be temporary or that the channels will get moved? I guess I might have to get an HD box though I hate giving more money to Comcast.

paulzoom

12-10-07, 10:34 PM

derf_man:

Are you saying you can just rent the box without paying for the additional package that gets you HD?

MasturB

12-10-07, 11:29 PM

derf_man:

Are you saying you can just rent the box without paying for the additional package that gets you HD?

The HD package is $6.95.

You have to have Digital Starter $51.95 to be eligible for the HD package though.

derf_man

12-10-07, 11:33 PM

Look at the Comcast link in my signature. It doesn't include any premium HD channels. I haven't confirmed this with Comcast. The link doesn't say you have to get any other package. I already get the Extended Basic Package(all analog channels).

derf_man

12-10-07, 11:38 PM

Sorry the link wasn't there. Ill try adding it to this post.

http://www.comcast.com/shop/buyflow/default.ashx?SourcePage=Cable

If it doesn't get included, go to comcast.net and look for "add services".

MasturB

12-11-07, 02:49 AM

To get premium HD channels, you have to subscribe to the SD channels first and the HD channels are given to you at no extra charge. I know it's misleading.

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Can someone explain to me why Comcast has yet to re-add Discovery Channel HD, Animal Planet HD, and TLC HD to my lineup?

A few weeks ago I had it, but it disappeared like the next day.

Comcast said i would have the aforementioned channels by december 1st, but the only channel that's been added recently is WGSA (CW affiliate).

This is really starting to make me mad, as I was looking forward to checking out Planet Earth.

paulzoom

12-11-07, 08:01 AM

So does anyone know why the QAM channels were suddenly scrambled and if it's permanent? I still get Fox, CBS and NBC on QAM. Why those and not the others.

Savman

12-11-07, 05:12 PM

MasturB

12-11-07, 11:13 PM

As of this afternoon, those are back.

What about USAHD?

Am I ever going to get that channel?

my little brochure says comcast added it to be 420 earlier this year, but there's been no addition.

Savman

12-11-07, 11:46 PM

What about USAHD?

Am I ever going to get that channel?

my little brochure says comcast added it to be 420 earlier this year, but there's been no addition.
I am clueless about that one. Comcast tends to send out inaccurate info. about their own line-up. All I know, is that I hope that they are on time with the "All-digital Picture Quality Enhancement" they promised for New Years.

paulzoom

12-12-07, 08:48 AM

Any official word if the QAM channels are gone forever?

paulzoom

12-13-07, 09:18 AM

Savman

12-13-07, 04:28 PM

If i could somehow get a Comcast cable box would that descramble the HD QAM channels that have gone away or would I need to upgrade the service to "digital" as well. I currently get a bunch of QAM channels in the 70-79 range without the box. I just want to get ESPN HD and TNT HD back.
Hey, Paul do you still have those QAM channels? It seems as if they were there this morning, but now they seem gone. And as for those QAM channels as a whole(between 73-79); if you get a box, they will not be in a digital format. They will be in analog, at least until New Years, so their brochure said. I'm thinking this is what just happened to those QAM channels. They probably scambled them. They may be preparing to transport the digitals to the box. And as for the HD networks. I believe you need digital starter. Digital starter is the exact same price as Preferred Basic cable that you have now, but you just get a box with music choice channels, and some On Demand stuff. And to get the HDs, I believe you need HD service which is 6.95. You can get it through an HD-DVR (13.95) or through an HD box(6.95).

suki84

12-13-07, 05:15 PM

Savman

12-13-07, 05:38 PM

They took everything away - ESPN Full Court, on demand channels, SD QAM. I think comparable sized markets near us with Comcast are not having this problem, it doesn't help Comcast is the only cable company in town.
Well as said, "If" you are willing to wait a few(about 2 1/2) weeks( provided that these QAM channels do not reappear), the QAM versions of the analog line-up that they just took away will be available via their boxes. You can get a box and pay the same price you are paying now $51.99(because the first SD-only box is free). However, if you wanted the digital versions in every room, you have to pay about 6.95 for each other room.

paulzoom

12-13-07, 07:29 PM

So HD via the QAM is dead now? I wonder why I still get NBC, CBS and Fox but not the others (ESPNHD, etc)?

MasturB

12-14-07, 12:39 AM

OriginalManD

12-14-07, 01:13 PM

Now all the digital stations are gone on QAM also..... :eek:

paulzoom

12-14-07, 02:55 PM

Bastards.

MasturB

12-15-07, 04:06 AM

Sigh.

Comcast strikes again.

Now National Geographic HD is gone. Well it's not gone, but it's not free for me anymore. It appears they've officially switched over to the updated billing lineup, but the only thing is i'm still not getting USA-HD (420).

National Geographic HD is no longer free with the regular HD package. Makes sense I guess, sense NGC was for Digital Classic, and I was getting it on HD but not on the Digital lineup.
ESPNews is no longer apart of the digital starter package.

None of my on-demand stuff works. The free on-demand stuff doesn't work either.

Savman

12-15-07, 07:51 PM

suki84

12-16-07, 12:26 AM

Why when I do a scan, does my box find these "encrypted" channels? It seems as if something is still there b/c when I go to the old ESPNHD channel and others the info will read 1080i and then switch to 720p with nothing there, which I think is very odd and doesn't make sense.

MasturB

12-16-07, 02:24 AM

Do you have the 6.95 HDTV package? Or better yet, do you have a DVR?

$6.95 HD package.

The DVR is built in my box,I just haven't activated it.

Savman

12-16-07, 11:04 AM

$6.95 HD package.

The DVR is built in my box,I just haven't activated it.

If you have the HD package, you should have that channel. I still have it. What level of digital service do you have?

MasturB

12-17-07, 01:42 AM

If you have the HD package, you should have that channel. I still have it. What level of digital service do you have?

Digital Starter.

The channel is there, but I'm not allowed to watch it I guess since I don't have the regular NGC.

Savman

12-17-07, 08:43 AM

Digital Starter.

The channel is there, but I'm not allowed to watch it I guess since I don't have the regular NGC.

I guess they want you to have digital preferred.

dkr919

12-17-07, 02:18 PM

The following is an email I sent to John Heinan, President and Chief Operating Officer of New Vision TV, the new owners of WJCL/WTGS and his response to me, which I received back in only about two hours.

I can only hope that your company will make an effort to improve the horrible service that we, the consumers, have had to suffer through from the inept previous owners. While WTOC and WSAV have been broadcasting a digital signal for years WJCL/WTGS continue to stonewall. Any improvement will be greatly anticipated. Thank You, Dan

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: WJCL/WTGS Quality concerns

We have owned the station for 7 weeks, we are working on correcting all of the problems
ignored by the previous owners.

I don't know if any good will come from the email but at least it may help the new owners realize we are fed up with the current sop. If there was an award for the worst network affiliate in the US, WJCL/WTGS would win hands down.

hoppo42

12-17-07, 03:19 PM

dkr919,
Im with you 100%. We were told two years ago that they would be hidef by now. Another Superbowl is upon us and it looks like were going to have to watch crap again.

dawg11

12-17-07, 08:25 PM

After losing the HDTV channels via QAM, I've decided to break down and pay extra. After calling several times, I get different information. Can someone tell me is 6.95 HDTV per outlet or whole house?

MasturB

12-17-07, 10:39 PM

After losing the HDTV channels via QAM, I've decided to break down and pay extra. After calling several times, I get different information. Can someone tell me is 6.95 HDTV per outlet or whole house?

Per box.

$6.95 is for 1 box.

it's another $6.95 for every additinoal box.

dawg11

12-17-07, 11:26 PM

what if one TV has a cablecard slot and one doesn't? is it still 6.95 per outlet -or- 6.95 for one box plus 1.50 for a card?

bryan92

12-18-07, 08:06 AM

suki84

12-20-07, 07:51 PM

ESPN Full Court is back!

Savman

12-20-07, 09:07 PM

ESPN Full Court is back!
Now, they only need to bring back the other 50 or so digital simulcast channels.

suki84

12-24-07, 12:39 AM

NFL Network is on 105-2.

derf_man

12-31-07, 04:03 PM

Here is a link that will give you the QAM channels for your area code. Ignore the ones at the top of the list.

www.silicondust.com/wiki/hdhomerun/channels

paulzoom

01-01-08, 04:54 PM

derf_man: that list is no longer valid. Most of those QAM channels are now blocked.

Savman

01-01-08, 05:26 PM

derf_man: that list is no longer valid. Most of those QAM channels are now blocked.
That list does adress that fact from what I saw(at least in terms of preferred basic channels provided by Comcast). The channels that still remain in the lineup provided by that site can probably be received by anyone whose television has the cable card slot. We are supposed to receive the digital signals via our cable boxes today, but I guess the employees doing the upgrade are off, which makes since. I just hope it happens soon because it'll be the only means through which they can be viewed in digital since they have been encrypted.

Southeastga

01-01-08, 08:28 PM

WJCL & WTGS's new combined web site is slated for sometime this month.

http://www.thecoastalsource.com/

MasturB

01-02-08, 08:04 PM

Wow!

History Channel HD has been added for Comcast (422).

That caught me off guard. I'm still waiting for FX-HD or USA-HD.

It wasn't listed in the brochure for the HD-lineup like USA-HD was.

UPDATE: It also appears that the National Geo HD channel is back as well. For a week or so it said I had to order that channel.

Savman

01-02-08, 08:30 PM

Does your brochure also mention the all digital picture quality enhancement? If so, do you have it yet? I know I don't. I thought the brochure said that it was to be take place on January 1. I called to inquire about this, but as expected the CSRs know nothing.

dkr919

01-03-08, 01:59 PM

Regarding the news of a new WJCL /WTGS website, excuse me if I don't get too excited.

MasturB

01-03-08, 05:47 PM

USA-HD! added today FINALLY!!!

420 on Comcast! Also, Sci-Fi HD has also been added on 427!!!

So the current lineup as of today is!

401 - FSNSouth HD (only works when games like Braves or Hawks are on.)
403 - ESPN HD
404 - ESPN2 HD
405 - Versus/Golf HD
406 - NFLHD***
407 - TNTHD
408 - MOJO HD
409 - Universal HD
410 - A&E HD
411 - Music HD
412 - HD Theater
413 - National Geographic HD**
414 - FOOD HD
415 - HGTV HD
416 - HBO HD*
417 - MAX HD*
418 - SHO HD*
419 - S-HD*
420 - USA HD
421 - TBS HD
422 - History Channel HD
423 - CNN HD
424 - Discovery HD
425 - TLC HD
426 - Animal Planet HD
427 - Sci Fi HD
432 - WSAVHD (NBC affiliate)
433 - WTOCHD (WTOC affiliate)
434 - WTGSHD (FOX affiliate)
435 - WGSAHD (The CW affiliate)

* - Must pay for those premium channels
** - National Geographic HD is viewable even if you don't have the digital channel.
*** - Must pay for the sports entertainment package to receive NFL Network HD.

Savman

01-03-08, 07:36 PM

It should be noted that WGSA is not actually in HD.

Southeastga

01-03-08, 08:23 PM

Regarding the news of a new WJCL /WTGS website, excuse me if I don't get too excited.

Well with the new owners looking to upgrade the stations and maybe looking at a new building for the stations, just maybe they're looking to get their act together. They have already added some talent from WTOC & WSAV and added a new anchor woman on the 7 & 11PM newscasts.

dkr919

01-03-08, 08:35 PM

Well with the new owners looking to upgrade the stations and maybe looking at a new building for the stations, just maybe they're looking to get their act together. They have already added some talent from WTOC & WSAV and added a new anchor woman on the 7 & 11PM newscasts.

Sorry about the pessimism, but upgrades have been promised before. It's just frustrating having to watch their crappy broadcast when much smaller DMA,s have been delivering SD and HD signals for years.

MasturB

01-03-08, 10:58 PM

It should be noted that WGSA is not actually in HD.

I'm kind of mad at that.

I thought smallville would be in HD tonight, turns out it wasn't.

Savman

01-04-08, 07:05 AM

In terms of a CW affiliate in SD, you'd be better off tuning to channel 240 at night. You'll get better quality.

jthegreat

01-04-08, 01:36 PM

Has anyone asked Comcast when we'll be getting ABC in HD? I can't believe they offer the other network stations and not ABC, especially with Lost starting again at the end of this month.

BradleyGreen

01-04-08, 02:02 PM

As soon as Savannah has an HD ABC affiliate I'm sure they will add it. Currently, WJCL doesn't have any HD capabilities...

jthegreat

01-04-08, 03:08 PM

Ah, ok. That makes sense. I asked Comcast about it and they wouldn't give me a straight answer.

Savman

01-04-08, 03:35 PM

They never give answers. The CSRs know little to nothing about what is going on, and worst of all, I think our calls are received in Augusta.

MasturB

01-04-08, 03:49 PM

They never give answers. The CSRs know little to nothing about what is going on, and worst of all, I think our calls are received in Augusta.

The Savannah team is in Jacksonville's new HQ's.

MasturB

01-04-08, 03:52 PM

As soon as Savannah has an HD ABC affiliate I'm sure they will add it. Currently, WJCL doesn't have any HD capabilities...

Doesn't WJCL share the same building and studio as WTGS (Fox) affiliate?

I thought they were sister stations, so they would share the same equipment.

In terms of a CW affiliate in SD, you'd be better off tuning to channel 240 at night. You'll get better quality.

Thank you very much! I was disappointed before because when WB-15 turned into CW, it was carrying a MUCH better signal than our local UPN affiliate. Then the channel went dark.

Our Local UPN affiliate is horrible. The audio is horrendous, and the video feed looks like 80's analog. It's been like this forever. I had no idea about 240.

BradleyGreen

01-04-08, 03:59 PM

They are sister stations (sort of) but its a lot more complicated than sharing the same equipment. The FOX system is much simpler and less expensive (aka FREE to the affiliate except for the cost of an upconverter) than the ABC system. ABC affiliates have to shell out a good bit of money to upgrade to HD...

Savman

01-04-08, 04:49 PM

Bradley, do you have any idea what is going on with Comcast and their digital simulcast effort? What happened to the January 1, 2008 they announced in the flyer?

I am a little pissed at that lie, but I will commend them on their HD effort. We now have 32. That is quite impressive because it is contrary to how this market seems to be normally neglected. 32 puts us up there with the large markets.

Savman

01-04-08, 05:32 PM

The Savannah team is in Jacksonville's new HQ's.

It's still not in Savannah and that is part of the problem.

edbloomer

01-05-08, 08:07 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if the new owners of the ABC and FOX affiliates would agree to approve waivers to allow individuals who ware able to receive national feeds of those networks to do so? That would be a show of good faith, could have an almost instant result and probably help create a number of loyal viewers. The waivers could expire as soon as the locals were capable of broadcasting digital & HD signals equivalent to their network feeds.

Does that make sense? How do we get this request to the right person for consideration?

MasturB

01-05-08, 02:51 PM

Should we start wildly speculating what channels 428-431 will be?

Or what about 402?

Is 402 going to be the rumored ESPNNewsHD channel?

----

Does anybody know when we're going to get SportsSouthHD?

The Braves season starts in April, and a ton of their games will be on SportsSouth(formerly Turner South). I know their home games are only going to be in HD on FSNSouth, and not the away games.

I'm still kind of sad they won't be on TBS anymore.

acpmadness

01-10-08, 02:14 PM

oljim

01-10-08, 02:24 PM

Go get a Cm 4228 it works on UHF and upper VHF all Sav. stations are UHF. No need to make a big deal out install, get 2 10ft sections of TV mast and a mount to bolt to end of house, run RG-6 to TV and point for best signal. You should get 3-1 NBC 11-1 CBS 28-1 Fox and 34- 1 CW good chance for 16-1/2/3 PBS Beaufort

acpmadness

01-10-08, 03:14 PM

Hmmm... I have Hargray basic cable right now(no HD). I just saw on their website that they have WSAV and WTOC in HD. My TV now can't scan for DTV channels, but I was planning on getting a new TV and maybe I'll be able to pick them up via DTV scan. If I can get them that way I won't even worry about the antenna. Anyone know if this can be done with Hargray? I know you can with Time Warner, I was able to pick up WTOC and PBS doing a DTV scan.

cappy1

01-10-08, 05:13 PM

slang1272

01-12-08, 03:44 PM

Anyone notice sound issues on USA and SCIFI HD channels? The sound goes out for about a second every minute or so.

slang

theueck

01-13-08, 02:42 PM

Sorry if this has been addressed before:

I live on HHI, (zip is 29926) currently with TWC-HD; I get only one network channel (CBS) in HD.
No ABC/FOX/NBC in HD.

If I switch to Direct TV, can I get the national feeds from ABC/NBC/Fox in HD? I don't really care about the locals in HD, just the national sports feeds re: NFL playoffs etc.

Direct's website says no local networks in HD, but nothing about the "national network feeds".

Thanks to any and all who might know.

Savman

01-13-08, 04:31 PM

Probably not. The only possibility I know of is to get a waiver so that you can get local feeds from another market, but I can imagine that being quite difficult

Southeastga

01-13-08, 05:28 PM

Probably not. The only possibility I know of is to get a waiver so that you can get local feeds from another market, but I can imagine that being quite difficult

I have been denied twice by all the Savannah stations for HD waivers and stay 65 miles west of Savannah.

edbloomer

01-13-08, 06:19 PM

MasturB

01-14-08, 02:17 AM

Can anyone else with comcast tell me if CNN and TBS-HD are working for them?

Both of them stopped working for me as of yesterday.

cappy1

01-14-08, 10:13 AM

I was using a very directional "long range" OTA antenna but I recently "upgraded" my Direct TV receiver and the new receiver doesn't have an input for the OTA antenna. I would get CBS and NBC pretty good with the antenna mounted in my attic, I can see Oljim cringing, and occassionally I'd get 16 but never ABC or FOX. Oljim's advice is always good!

Very strange. What is model number of receiver? Both the H20 and HR20 HD models have OTA antenna inputs. My new HR20 works fine and is actually more sensitive than my previous Sony HD receiver. However, none of the Directv models have cable inputs, since directv is in competition with the cable networks.

edbloomer

01-14-08, 11:27 AM

It's an H21-200.

cappy1

01-14-08, 04:04 PM

Wow, after your message I read elsewhere that directv dumped the OTA tuner since it provides no income and it costs money ...they seem to be driven exclusively by the profit motive and not by providing features and characteristics that satisfy customers.

oljim

01-14-08, 05:50 PM

My daughter just got a Directv HD DVR and it has no ota tuner, they have no local HD stations so they do not care. I am happy dish has not gone that route, my dishnetwork HD DVR can record 2 sat HD and 1 OTA HD at the same time.

teesee

01-14-08, 06:19 PM

There is an optional attachment to the HR21 for the reception of OTA transmissions. It's called the AM21. Costs 59 bucks.

acpmadness

01-15-08, 09:36 AM

oljim

01-15-08, 05:34 PM

Hey edbloomer,

I was wondering if you use a OTA antenna. I'm pretty close to you in Lake Linden and was still thinking about putting one up. When I lived in Hilton Head Plantation i was able to get WSAV threw Voom. When they went out of business and I got DTV the signal strength dropped and I wasn't able to view it anymore. If so what is your setup and who installed it?

Thanks.

The reason for the signal drop was because the Voom rec. had DC voltage out the ant input for the amp that was in the voom wing ant. The Directv did not have output power for the amp.

acpmadness

01-16-08, 09:57 AM

bryan92

01-16-08, 10:14 AM

I hope that the reason for Fox terrible picture quality showing up the last few days is because they are doing something in order to finally get us up and running digitally.
I swear its almost unwatchable again.

cappy1

01-16-08, 05:10 PM

Ohh... interesting. I didn't know that, thanks for the info.

I would like to know if you can pick up Hargray's local DT channels without using one of their cable boxes. Just by running a digital scan on you HDTV. If so, I wouldn't even bother with the antenna.

Cable and satellite both use additional compression that can create artifacts so, all other things being equal, the best picture should be OTA.

oljim

01-17-08, 11:36 AM

Ohh... interesting. I didn't know that, thanks for the info.

I would like to know if you can pick up Hargray's local DT channels without using one of their cable boxes. Just by running a digital scan on you HDTV. If so, I wouldn't even bother with the antenna.

Not sure what you would get from Hargray but do they even carry the sub chan.. No matter what they may have, OTA will give you a better picture and not stuck with what they want you to get free

cappy1

01-18-08, 12:20 PM

Not sure what you would get from Hargray but do they even carry the sub chan.. No matter what they may have, OTA will give you a better picture and not stuck with what they want you to get free

It is not only the sub channels, but how how many total analog and DTV channels, Internet, etc. they try and pump down their bandwidth capability. As they keep adding more channels, especially HD, they reach a point that compression of some sort is needed to make everything fit. However, Hargray seems to be on the leading edge of things, so it is possble that they use little or no compression at this point.

oljim

01-18-08, 12:37 PM

It is not only the sub channels, but how how many total analog and DTV channels, Internet, etc. they try and pump down their bandwidth capability. As they keep adding more channels, especially HD, they reach a point that compression of some sort is needed to make everything fit. However, Hargray seems to be on the leading edge of things, so it is possble that they use little or no compression at this point.

If they are on the leading edge one could not tell by the web site, it does not say anything about DVRs much less HD DVrs. do they have any??? are they HD???
I ask that question to Charter here in Beaufort, they are not sure about a HD DVR
Tell me if any cable box can record HD OTA.... My Dish DVR can.
Cable is unable... and 5 years behind the time

cappy1

01-18-08, 03:19 PM

If they are on the leading edge one could not tell by the web site, it does not say anything about DVRs much less HD DVrs. do they have any??? are they HD???
I ask that question to Charter here in Beaufort, they are not sure about a HD DVR
Tell me if any cable box can record HD OTA.... My Dish DVR can.
Cable is unable... and 5 years behind the time

No debate, cable is still in the dark ages. But Hargray seems to be investing and upgrading more than most I've heard about: http://www.digitaltvnews.net/content/?p=2254. When I said "leading edge", I was comparing Hargray to other cable companies.

Actually, I gave up on cable long ago as a lost cause and switched to OTA and satellite!

Savman

01-18-08, 03:32 PM

No debate, cable is still in the dark ages. But Hargray seems to be investing and upgrading more than most I've heard about: http://www.digitaltvnews.net/content/?p=2254. When I said "leading edge", I was comparing Hargray to other cable companies.

Actually, I gave up on cable long ago as a lost cause and switched to OTA and satellite!
I hate the fact that I am stuck with Comcast as a cable company (whereas say Pooler gets to choose between Hargray and Comcast) which is ok in terms of HD deployment, but behind on everything else, especially in Savannah.

oljim

01-18-08, 03:35 PM

Same here, gave up on cable in 99.

oljim

01-18-08, 03:41 PM

I hate the fact that I am stuck with Comcast as a cable company (whereas say Pooler gets to choose between Hargray and Comcast) which is ok in terms of HD deployment, but behind on everything else, especially in Savannah.

Savannah is also behind in HD, Wsav and Wtoc have had HD for 4 years, No luck with ABC, FOX and PBS. yet sav is in the top 100 DMAs.
Charlston is not in the top 100 DMAs But has NBC,ABC,CBS, FOX PBS and CW in full power and HD. I can pick them up from 71 miles away.

cappy1

01-18-08, 04:17 PM

Savannah is also behind in HD, Wsav and Wtoc have had HD for 4 years, No luck with ABC, FOX and PBS. yet sav is in the top 100 DMAs.
Charlston is not in the top 100 DMAs But has NBC,ABC,CBS, FOX PBS and CW in full power and HD. I can pick them up from 71 miles away.

It looks like Charleston, SC has made the top 100 (DMA for TV Households) according to this data. http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/markettrack/US_HH_by_DMA.asp

Savannah is 97, so they are close. Savannah's problem, however, is not DMA ranking, but greedy past management at ABC and Fox that milked the stations for every penny they could get. The new owners sound like they are trying to improve the situation...they have no where to go but up!

oljim

01-18-08, 04:26 PM

I hope the new owners do improve the stations, time will tell.

acpmadness

01-18-08, 04:45 PM

Charlston is not in the top 100 DMAs But has NBC,ABC,CBS, FOX PBS and CW in full power and HD. I can pick them up from 71 miles away.

Well I guess were all going to Jim's to watch the Superbowl in HD. lol

Savman

01-18-08, 05:27 PM

Southeastga

01-19-08, 10:54 AM

WTGS is coming in @ 720p on 27-3 this morning...........

dkr919

01-19-08, 11:02 AM

woohoo....finally!!!! Thanks for the heads up. Looks like the Super Bowl in HD.

cappy1

01-19-08, 01:47 PM

WTGS is coming in @ 720p on 27-3 this morning...........

Unfortunately, my "Howdy Doody" HR20 Directv receiver will not pick it up because it displays only stations sending program schedules and they are not doing this on their DTV channel yet. Rats! From past messages, I understand this problem is only with this particular receiver. I think I will hook up my Sony HD300 before the game....

oljim

01-19-08, 03:37 PM

The station PSIP is messed up we should see 28-1 now they have 27-3 with pict and sound but 28-1 is blank w no sound, get the same on all 3 of tuners

oljim

01-19-08, 03:42 PM

Unfortunately, my "Howdy Doody" HR20 Directv receiver will not pick it up because it displays only stations sending program schedules and they are not doing this on their DTV channel yet. Rats! From past messages, I understand this problem is only with this particular receiver. I think I will hook up my Sony HD300 before the game....

Can you do a chennel scan? I just did with my Dish HD DVR and get 27-3 and 28-1 EPG has listing for 28-1 but not 27-3 I am going to see what goes on till monday and the give the station a call.

cappy1

01-19-08, 04:25 PM

Can you do a chennel scan? I just did with my Dish HD DVR and get 27-3 and 28-1 EPG has listing for 28-1 but not 27-3 I am going to see what goes on till monday and the give the station a call.

Yes, did channel scan.

Eddie39

01-19-08, 04:29 PM

FCC shows WTGS-DT as channel 27.

oljim

01-19-08, 05:23 PM

It is sent out on DTV 27 but should remap to 28. PISP data is messed up

oljim

01-19-08, 05:25 PM

Yes, did channel scan.

Do you get 28-1 or 27-3 or it just goes by both

dkr919

01-19-08, 05:32 PM

Unfortunately, my "Howdy Doody" HR20 Directv receiver will not pick it up because it displays only stations sending program schedules and they are not doing this on their DTV channel yet. Rats! From past messages, I understand this problem is only with this particular receiver. I think I will hook up my Sony HD300 before the game....

I have an HR20 also, fed with an antenna in my attic. I have a Radio Shack bow tie hooked to my antenna input on my Samsung 4671, surprisingly with almost a full signal bar on my meter, as a work around until it scans on the HR20.

cappy1

01-19-08, 07:02 PM

Do you get 28-1 or 27-3 or it just goes by both

It skips both for the reason stated earlier. There is no work-around for this except using my Sony HD300 temporarily for OTA reception. The Sony is a much better unit anyway. I got the HR20 ony because of the new HD satellite channels and the HD DVR.

oljim

01-19-08, 09:01 PM

I just looked at Fox 24 Charleston it is HD and DD-5.1 Fox 27-3 is not hd and sound is ass backwards I do not get the DD-5 lite but get more sound from rear chs than frt and center

cappy1

01-20-08, 10:15 AM

I just looked at Fox 24 Charleston it is HD and DD-5.1 Fox 27-3 is not hd and sound is ass backwards I do not get the DD-5 lite but get more sound from rear chs than frt and center

Will someone please post when they confirm that WTGS is broadcasting in 720P for an extended period? My equipment is in built-in rack and will take some time for me to patch in my Sony HD300 receiver in place of my HR20 to get them in HD....no sense in doing this if 720p is still in test phase and off most of the time. Thanks.

oljim

01-20-08, 10:47 AM

Will do, I will see what they do tonight and if it still is messed up will call them.
When thy get it all working I will post it here, I have 2 ant, 2 rotors and 2 HD DVRs so I can PIP FOX 24 and FOX 28 at same time

rjknyy

01-20-08, 07:53 PM

I just did a re-scan on my DirecTV H20 and was getting WTGS on 27-3 in 720p. The only problem was that it was in 4:3 and not 16:9. It is giving me some hope for the Super Bowl in 2 weeks.

oljim

01-20-08, 09:57 PM

It was not 720P if you could see Fox 24 charleston, then you would see 720P. Fox 28/27-3 looked more like 320 I

dkr919

01-20-08, 10:24 PM

It was not 720P if you could see Fox 24 charleston, then you would see 720P. Fox 28/27-3 looked more like 320 I

Agreed, It sure doesn't look like 720p to me either. Athough it does look better than 420i, I think it looks closer to 420p. Hopefully they will have everything ironed out before the Super Bowl.

HowieSEB

01-20-08, 10:26 PM

Whoa...did anyone just catch that commercial at the end of the NFC championship game...that announced WTGS-HD....asking you to watch the superbowl on WTGS-HD?!

I scanned, but can't get it from here ( yet )

bryan92

01-21-08, 08:59 AM

My buddy, whose dad runs the local cable company, told him that he has been in contact with the Fox and Abc engineer and neither station plans to broadcast in HD any time soon. I dont know about just digital, but....

Anyone have the email for either station? Preferably FOX????

Savman

01-21-08, 09:07 AM

bryan92

01-21-08, 09:10 AM

I'm just glad I have Comcast. That way we can at least get Fox in HD.Unfortunately, I have no alternative. :mad: I really dont care about ABC because I get that out of Augusta, but FOX is a must have and it just pisses me off every day. How long has it been since WTOC started broadcasting, 2001???

oljim

01-21-08, 11:23 AM

bryan92

01-21-08, 12:29 PM

I looked at the web site , no ph# or email address

Yea, me too Jim. I guess they dont want to hear from us anymore. :rolleyes:

cappy1

01-21-08, 01:07 PM

I looked at the web site , no ph# or email address

Here is the email address for the General Manager at WJCL. John Heinan, President at New Vision responded to a member back in December, so you might want to try him too.

http://www.newvisiontv.com/contact.html

cappy1

01-21-08, 01:12 PM

Here is the email address for New Vision Television.http://www.newvisiontv.com/about_factsheet.html

cappy1

01-21-08, 05:38 PM

Here is a copy of the email I sent to the GM at WJCL

Dear Lynn Fairbanks:

Over the years I have been very frustrated with the lack of state-of-the art broadcast quality at WJCL and WTGS and the general lack of responsiveness to any questions in this regard. This lack of technology and poor communications has continued with the advent of DTV and HDTV.

I see that New Vision Television takes pride in “being an innovator in the television industry”, but we have not yet seen any evidence of this innovation as customers of your services. The New Vision web site indicates that WJCL was "the first station in Savannah to broadcast in stereo, in color....", but these firsts were almost 25 years ago and since that time your stations have been in last place as far as technology and broadcast quality are concerned. The Savannah NBC and CBS Savannah HDTV stations have been broadcasting in HDTV for years...that's innovation. I do understand that New Vision recently purchased your stations, however, so I am hopeful that the needed capital investments are being made.

Respectfully, the members of our Forum would appreciate a detailed description of your plans and timetable for broadcasting in DTV and, hopefully, HDTV. I will be happy to post your response on the Forum.

Please advise.

bryan92

01-21-08, 07:25 PM

teesee

01-21-08, 09:08 PM

HowieSEB

01-22-08, 09:11 PM

WTGS is broadcasting another digital signal, now. I'm getting 27.1 and 27.3. Both show as "720 HD" on my TV, but they're both obviously SD, but at least the permanent transmitter is up and running. SOMEthing is going on. It would be nice to finally see the Super Bowl in HD.

That's what their ad said. I'm skeptical too. However, if they lie...could be liable for false advertising. I'd like to see that :)

bryan92

01-23-08, 10:31 AM

WTGS is broadcasting another digital signal, now. I'm getting 27.1 and 27.3. Both show as "720 HD" on my TV, but they're both obviously SD, but at least the permanent transmitter is up and running. SOMEthing is going on. It would be nice to finally see the Super Bowl in HD.I locked in 27.3 last night, then checked 28.1 and didnt even have a picture???

oljim

01-23-08, 10:45 AM

Same here Bryan, I did a rescan, I still get 28-1 and 27-3. 28-1 has strong signal but no pict or sound. 27-3 has pict and sound but is not HD. And no EPG for 27-3 but do get EPG for 28-1

suki84

01-23-08, 08:06 PM

Fox has relocated to 81-2 on QAM and CW went to 106-8, still no picture on 27-3.

oljim

01-24-08, 09:21 AM

Fox has relocated to 81-2 on QAM and CW went to 106-8, still no picture on 27-3.

27-3 is OTA not cable

oljim

01-24-08, 09:25 AM

Fox 28 is now back on 28-1

Jnelson12

01-24-08, 10:40 AM

One of my buddies works for Hargray. He just informed me that Channel # 427 will be FOX HD. Should be available today. That is the only channel added. GREAT NEWS!!!

cappy1

01-24-08, 11:34 AM

Same here Bryan, I did a rescan, I still get 28-1 and 27-3. 28-1 has strong signal but no pict or sound. 27-3 has pict and sound but is not HD. And no EPG for 27-3 but do get EPG for 28-1

Is WTGS still sending out their electronic program guide? I scanned last night on my Directv HR20 and they were not showing up.

bryan92

01-24-08, 03:03 PM

I think there is a hell of a lot of confusion on this thread. It started out with a few of us talking about OTA in Savannah. Now, it seems we have many talking about cable. Everything that I say on here will refer to OTA and nothing cable. Just want to make sure I wasnt confusing anyone. ;)

bmeeks8

01-24-08, 05:27 PM

Weird thing is Fox 28.1 now shows up on the Zap2It web site run by Tribune Media Services. Everyone on DBSTalk.com says Tribune is where DirecTV gets all the OTA channel info for the HR20-series receivers. I'm rebuilding my OTA list now in my HR20-100, but before I started this just a few minutes ago, I still had no 28.1 in my Guide.

You can see 28.1 listed at http://zap2it.com if you put in your Zip code and choose Broadcast via Antena as your provider.

*** quick update *** rebuilding the local OTA channel list via "Initial Setup" did not help. Still no 28.1 in the guide. It's a real pain that the HR20 units won't scan for OTA channels...

rjknyy

01-24-08, 05:42 PM

toneloc74b

01-25-08, 09:44 AM

Jnelson,

I also noticed that Hargray added WTGS on channel 427, but I haven't seen any programming shown in HD yet.

bryan92

01-25-08, 10:31 AM

I switched over last night to FOX OTA and watched a few seconds of the newscast. Obviously, the news wasnt in HD, but I think it was digital at the least. No lines, good color for a change. Did anyone else (OTA) notice anything last night?

rjknyy

01-25-08, 11:28 AM

bryan92

01-25-08, 01:25 PM

Hell no, that would certainly be too much to ask. Again, it was certainly a better quality. I set it to record a show tonight that would be in HD if available just to see if there is a difference.

rjknyy

01-25-08, 08:20 PM

No OTA HD tonight for Bones:mad:

Fox28 Hater

01-25-08, 08:37 PM

Why are they running spots on Fox 28. "Watch all of your favorite prime time shows in HD over the air!
And then not provide it?:eek:

bryan92

01-26-08, 03:33 PM

Im getting DD on WTOC. Its not correct, but I get it.

strat49

01-27-08, 11:49 AM

So... I can't get fox hd because my direct tv sells me the locals from Savannah... so...what incentive does WTGS have to go HD when we are force to only use them? Bad signal or not...I use them or nothing...no superbowl in HD on my new 56" DLP...this burns me up... Any advice?:mad:

oljim

01-27-08, 12:02 PM

BradleyGreen

01-27-08, 12:28 PM

Get a good UHF ant. put it on a tall tower, point it at Charleston SC Fox 24 DTV 40 and you will get HD.

So... I can't get fox hd because my direct tv sells me the locals from Savannah... so...what incentive does WTGS have to go HD when we are force to only use them? Bad signal or not...I use them or nothing...no superbowl in HD on my new 56" DLP...this burns me up... Any advice?:mad:

It would be easier and cheaper to just get comcast service for a month and use your TV's QAM tuner (if it has one) to pick up the signal. All you have to get is their $20 Basic package to get local channels in HD and SD.

BradleyGreen

01-27-08, 12:30 PM

Another option would be to change your service address with Directv. For example, If you "move" to St. Simon's or Brunswick you will get Jacksonville local channels in HD along with FSN South and Sports South in HD. The Jacksonville spot beam covers the Savannah area with 90% signal at my location.

strat49

01-27-08, 01:09 PM

I live in the country outside Estill, SC... no cable here... no dsl... no cable will ever come here... the Direct HD will be installed here Friday... I will see what the installer has to say... I am about 70 miles from Charleston...

strat49

01-27-08, 01:17 PM

I just thought of something.... We live in SC and have to get the locals from Savannah... I miss all the SC news (especially election results)... I think I will call Direct TV and tell them that since I live in SC I want SC locals... that would get me fox hd out of Charleston... of course all their decision are probably controlled by a computer (no human input).. The computer says I have to have Savannah even though I live in SC...I will try that tomorrow and see what happens.

strat49

01-27-08, 02:22 PM

oljim

01-27-08, 02:36 PM

Just spoke to Direct TV. I am forced to only get Savannah (I live in South Carolina) by the FCC. I luv guvmint! So, The FCC is protecting advertisers in Savannah by forcing me not to have locals from my state on Direct TV... I don't want to put a hugh pole up in my yard with an antennae... I am 70 miles from Charleston and 55 miles from Savannah

I am 71.3 miles and get Fox HD from Charleston, If you could get charleston on Directv it would not be in HD, they do not have in on sat yet. Your only chance is OTA.

oljim

01-27-08, 02:41 PM

You are 48 miles from Sav. towers and 91 miles from Charleston, all the Charls. towers are 17 miles N on US 17 and Sav are out near 204 and I 95

strat49

01-27-08, 03:02 PM

oljim.... How high up and what kind of antennae would I need? Do you think I could get Charleston from this distance?

bryan92

01-27-08, 04:23 PM

My buddy just called me (the one whose dad is in charge of Statesboros cable system). He said they called his dad from WTGS and WJCL to tell him that they would be up and running in HD by the end of the month (jan). I hope he wasn't confused and they will only be digital, but I guess its a start. Remember, our cable system gets their signals from Savannah OTA, then re-transmits them. Boy what a difference a week makes???

HowieSEB

01-27-08, 06:40 PM

So true, bryan92. It appears, from what I've seen...there is now just a 28.1...and it's labeled WTGS-HD when I scan. No 27.3 or anything anymore. Seems they aren't perfect yet but are at least trying...and trying hard to get HD before next Sunday's show ( You know, that pigskin game everyone wants to watch ).

oljim

01-28-08, 12:09 PM

oljim.... How high up and what kind of antennae would I need? Do you think I could get Charleston from this distance?

I have my ant. at 36-37 ft with rotor and a CM 7777 amp, I would say a CM4228. I get FOX 24 here at 75-80 best of all the Charleston stations.

bryan92

01-28-08, 12:24 PM

Jim, whats your take on all the happenings??? DD on WTOC and possible HD on FOX and ABC??? You may need to hook up with the engineer at WTOC like you did with NBC and get their signal fixed. :D

Fox28 Hater

01-28-08, 12:31 PM

Why are they running spots on Fox 28. "Watch all of your favorite prime time shows in HD over the air!
And then not provide it?:eek:

They are running promotions on fox 28 stating we will be watching our "prime time shows in HD." "Over the air" Maybe it is Finally going to happen.

bryan92

01-28-08, 01:15 PM

This is what else was said during our conversation. The folks in Savannah told the guy that they found a way to transmit their digital signal over their current analog gear. Is this possible?

Y'all keep in mind, someone who doesnt know the lingo could have this screwed up, so all I am doing is repeating what was told to me-THIRD HAND.

oljim

01-28-08, 02:14 PM

I think you will see some big changes in the near future with ABC/FOX

oljim

01-28-08, 02:17 PM

Jim, whats your take on all the happenings??? DD on WTOC and possible HD on FOX and ABC??? You may need to hook up with the engineer at WTOC like you did with NBC and get their signal fixed. :D

Last I had talked to them they did not have equpment DD-5 at WTOC

bryan92

01-28-08, 02:20 PM

Last I had talked to them they did not have equpment DD-5 at WTOCAudio is showing up as DD on my A/V rec. It used to remain at pro logic or whatever. The show I recorded the other night it sounded like they were talking in a barrel.

oljim

01-28-08, 04:17 PM

I will see what I can find out

Eddie39

01-28-08, 07:29 PM

Oljim....Do you know what kind of tower that is on the left just before Harbor Island? I can't find it listed under FCC for TV, FM or AM.

Eddie39

01-28-08, 10:19 PM

My amp is showing that WTOC is transmitting DD (5.1) audio. I'm showing all five channels on. The sound is not right. The center channel audio is also coming from my rear speakers. But this is a start. :o

suki84

01-28-08, 11:02 PM

Anybody getting AEHD and HGTVHD on 112-2,3 with no sound? Where's the sound?

oljim

01-28-08, 11:27 PM

Oljim....Do you know what kind of tower that is on the left just before Harbor Island? I can't find it listed under FCC for TV, FM or AM.

Not sure about now, but it was used by boats on marine band at one time and had some FM station, it would mess up TV on some old buddy of mine that was near by on the left side of 21

oljim

01-28-08, 11:28 PM

I am also getting WTOC in DD-5 but no center channel voice, not a very good night for a sound check

bryan92

01-29-08, 10:42 AM

I just got a call from WTOC and they have, as of Thursday, got up and running with DD. They said I was their only complaint and that they seem to not be having problems on their end. Please, if you are hearing the same thing as I am, email them and tell them. He seemed to be telling me just as I have seen in the past, it my receiver and not their equipment. I volunteered to help at night describe my problem while on the phone but he wouldn't take the bait. btw, the email below is not the guy who called me, but someone in the department who Neil referred my email.

npedersen@wtoc.com

oljim

01-29-08, 12:25 PM

Bryan I have WTOC on now, sound is ok, but it is local program. I am going to see how it is tonight at 8 PM will record NCIS from Wtoc and also from WCSC in Charleston and see if they are the same.
May try the soaps in and hr or so and see how it goes

oljim

01-29-08, 12:40 PM

Y &R is on now, seems like they need more center ch voice, way to much on R&L front but it may be a CBS problem both 11-1 and 5-1 are the same way.

Fox28 Hater

01-29-08, 03:49 PM

Here is a link for licensing with FCChttp://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=WTGS

HowieSEB

01-29-08, 11:26 PM

So..no one has seen any HD content on their new 720p HD feed?

rjknyy

01-30-08, 05:56 AM

So..no one has seen any HD content on their new 720p HD feed?

Not yet, I am feeling less optimistic about the game this Sunday

dkr919

01-30-08, 08:14 AM

Maybe the tech guys from WTOC or WSAV wouldn't mind going over and giving them a hand... PLEASE.....PRETTY PLEASE

bryan92

01-30-08, 12:43 PM

Wes from WTOC called me back and said that the problem should be fixed. He said something was configured wrong.

oljim

01-30-08, 01:20 PM

I am not sure they fixed it, I know last night NCIS had very little voice from center ch.
I will see how it goes tonight

bryan92

01-30-08, 01:34 PM

Yea, I watched that. It wasnt fixed last night. I hope he meant this morning.

Eddie39

01-30-08, 09:44 PM

WTOC audio sound like they have the problem corrected. My center channel sounds great.

dkr919

01-31-08, 02:40 PM

No signal on 28.1. I rescanned to no avail. Anyone else lose it? I previously had a strong signal on my meter (Sammy 4671).

rjknyy

01-31-08, 03:14 PM

No signal on 28.1. I rescanned to no avail. Anyone else lose it? I previously had a strong signal on my meter (Sammy 4671).

Maybe it is a good sign that we will have HD tonight??

bryan92

01-31-08, 03:20 PM

Yep, if its screwing up, it means they're messing with it! :eek:

oljim

01-31-08, 03:21 PM

Same here 0 signal from 28-1

oljim

01-31-08, 04:28 PM

28.1 is back

bryan92

01-31-08, 04:33 PM

28.1 is backAnd its.......not fixed?

rjknyy

01-31-08, 06:32 PM

And its.......not fixed?

Nope, still the same. I am actually contemplating not watching "Lost" tonight and paying the $1.99 to download it to the Xbox tomorrow in HD.

MasturB

01-31-08, 08:26 PM

Does anybody when we'll get the real CW-HD channel?

:(

Fox28 Hater

01-31-08, 09:22 PM

Hallelujah! Fox Don't foget the lyrics is in HD DD. I will now be forced to change my user name. :D:D

Fox28 Hater

01-31-08, 09:41 PM

I say Super - you say bowl.
SUPER BOWL in HD:)

rjknyy

01-31-08, 09:53 PM

It looks FANTASTIC!!

Fox28 Hater

01-31-08, 10:06 PM

Whever this feed is coming from - it is sharp No HD Lite at all.
(1080i)

rjknyy

01-31-08, 10:18 PM

Whever this feed is coming from - it is sharp No HD Lite at all.
(1080i)

Now only if the they can get the guide info updated we may get the channel added to the HR20 by Sunday.

dkr919

02-01-08, 03:15 AM

Excellent! ...Any scuttlebutt on when or if WJCL will make the move?

bryan92

02-01-08, 07:44 AM

Hallelujah! Fox Don't foget the lyrics is in HD DD. I will now be forced to change my user name. :D:D:D

Nobody ever came out and said it was done, but by reading, I assume its up and running???

dkr919

02-01-08, 09:00 AM

:D

Nobody ever came out and said it was done, but by reading, I assume its up and running???

I haven't seen it either and have made the assumption. I would like to give a pat on the back to the new owners for getting done in a few months what the previous owners promised but never did. Thanks New Vision! One down and one to go.

hoppo42

02-01-08, 09:21 AM

Its a victory but the war is not over yet. We cant let up. If they did Fox they can do ABC as well. But I do agree.... props to Fox for finally getting it done. We shouldnt have to beg for what other markets have had for years.

teesee

02-01-08, 09:23 AM

Whever this feed is coming from - it is sharp No HD Lite at all.
(1080i)

Are you sure about that? I thought Fox HD broadcasts were 720p.

hoppo42

02-01-08, 09:30 AM

Its 720p.

BradleyGreen

02-01-08, 09:42 AM

Fox28 Hater

02-01-08, 09:47 AM

It's 720P but DFT Lyrics and all other reality/game shows except for AI are actually not a HD show just 480i widescreen upconverted to 720P HD. Shows like House and American Idol will look much better as they are true HD shows.
I certaintly am not going to pretend that I can look with my eyes and tell the difference in 720p and 1080i, but I will beg to differ with you on DFT "it looked awesome" I have been watching WTOC 11.01 and WSAV 3.01 for over 2 years. I would say the Picture on DFT (the only show that I have seen yet) looked comparable or better to any of the prime time shows on the other two Savannah Stations + the DD souned great on my receiver 5.1

dkr919

02-01-08, 10:24 AM

I certaintly am not going to pretend that I can look with my eyes and tell the difference in 720p and 1080i, but I will beg to differ with you on DFT "it looked awesome" I have been watching WTOC 11.01 and WSAV 3.01 for over 2 years. I would say the Picture on DFT (the only show that I have seen yet) looked comparable or better to any of the prime time shows on the other two Savannah Stations + the DD souned great on my receiver 5.1

720p and 1080i are virtually identical in resolution with 720p able to process fast movement such as sports better than 1080i. It's 1080p content, so far only available on HD dvd/Blueray, that doubles the resolution that a difference can be seen.

Bipshire

02-01-08, 10:48 AM

I live in Bluffton SC, use a indoor antenna I receive CBS and NBC and from what I read Fox 28 is up and running in HD. I rescan over and over no Fox HD, what could be wrong.?

rjknyy

02-01-08, 11:01 AM

I live in Bluffton SC, use a indoor antenna I receive CBS and NBC and from what I read Fox 28 is up and running in HD. I rescan over and over no Fox HD, what could be wrong.?

Are you using an H20 DirecTV receiver? If you are and are still not getting it to show up you will need to play with the antenna and then re-scan. If you have the HR20 HD-DVR then I am guessing you will have to wait until it shows up in the guide.

amik

02-01-08, 11:11 AM

I'll apologize in advance if this is not the correct area to post this question.

I am moving to Savannah (Wilmington Island) and would like to know if I should go with Comcast, or stay with DirecTV (requires new agreement). I've browsed the thread and it appears comcast has added more HD content recently and has HD DVRs (tivo?) by default. I'd appreciate any thoughts you can provide.

I should add that I am primarily interested in network HD channels and would prefer not to use OTA (but will if forced).

Thanks.

Fox28 Hater

02-01-08, 01:01 PM

Amik:
Welcome. I am a newbie as well, but I think I can with certainty that you will not get all locals in HD without OTA. The big news today is the fact that our local fox affiliate has just gone HD. Two of the other three alos broadcast prime time shows and most sporting events in HD. Though there local broadcasting programs are still 480i. I am a subscriber to to Dish HD and we have all four networks in SD. I was told by a Dish Customer rep that Dish would not consider Savannah until all four netorks were HD. I cannot speak for comcast I think they may carry 3 out of the four as well but I am not certain, maybe someone on the board can clear this up.
Good Luck!

Savman

02-01-08, 01:16 PM

HeadLlama

02-01-08, 01:48 PM

Not all of the locals in Savannah even broadcast HD OTA. I think only three broadcast stations in Savannah do so. NBC, ABC, and FOX(I think). Comcast has all three of these in HD. Comcast has provided HD from the FOX affiliate, before the affiliate did itself.

Don't forget CBS (WTOC) on channel 11.1

Savman

02-01-08, 02:18 PM

Don't forget CBS (WTOC) on channel 11.1
I meant CBS, not ABC.

oljim

02-01-08, 02:53 PM

amik

02-01-08, 03:01 PM

Thanks for the reply's. Very helpful.

Why does it require a new agreement? Do you have Directv hd DVR?
I always say cable is unable

Yes, we do have DirecTV HD DVR. In order to move your service you must sign a new 18 month agreement (it's denoted by a little * and some fine print on DirecTV's moving page. I've had directv for 2 years now and I am getting sick of them telling me that local HD channels are coming soon (soon has been over 18 months in my case). I've also had 4 DirecTV dvr failures which is a PITA each time it happens.

Right now, I'm thinking about going with Comcast and their triple play offer + HD package, then buying a Tivo HD rather than using a comcast DVR. My wife loved our old Tivo and I can't say I disagree with her. I'm further intrigued by the fact that Tivo allows you to download recorded programs to your computer since I've got plenty of hard drive space (4 TB).

oljim

02-01-08, 03:10 PM

Thanks for the reply's. Very helpful.

Yes, we do have DirecTV HD DVR. In order to move your service you must sign a new 18 month agreement (it's denoted by a little * and some fine print on DirecTV's moving page. I've had directv for 2 years now and I am getting sick of them telling me that local HD channels are coming soon (soon has been over 18 months in my case). I've also had 4 DirecTV dvr failures which is a PITA each time it happens.

Right now, I'm thinking about going with Comcast and their triple play offer + HD package, then buying a Tivo HD rather than using a comcast DVR. My wife loved our old Tivo and I can't say I disagree with her. I'm further intrigued by the fact that Tivo allows you to download recorded programs to your computer since I've got plenty of hard drive space (4 TB).

I think that is if they put up a new dish, why not bring your dish, put it up and just change address.
I have been with Dishnetwork for 10 yrs have never had a contract, they do not even have my SS# and never will.
I have changed my adress 3 times and just call or update online.