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ATPTourFan
06-02-08, 01:45 PM
I have been following this thread pretty regularly but I don't remember anyone mentioning a new box from Cox. My uncle just moved, got new service, and the box he has is different than the moto one that I have. I wasn't able to get the specific numbers but it is still from moto but looks totally different. Even uglier IMO. Does anyone know of any advantages this box has over the last one? Larger HDD maybe?!?

Probably this one, no?

http://www.motorola.com/business/v/item.jsp?vgnextoid=8f2449857f517110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD&localeId=33

Ph8te
06-02-08, 04:55 PM
Cox knows that older tuners can not go that high and that Cox could just as easiliy put the rebroadcasted stuff a few channels lower so that those older tuners could use the signal. There is really only one reason that I can see to put those stations right above where the tuner could reach them.

Is there some other benefit to Cox to put them that high?

So I guess if the oil companies changed the forumula for gasoline and your car would no longer run , then that would be ok, since it was your fault not to buy a new car?

Well I think this is the last I am going to comment on this as it looks like you are pretty set in your ways....

1st of all its not just older TVs that were "left out" as said before its any tuner new or old that cant tune to the higher QAM channels.....I am sorry I jsut dont feel that Cox has an "obligation" to keep all the channels on the low end its just my opinion.... The fact is we dont know why Cox moved the channels and we will probably never know the official reason, all we can do is speculate...

As far as the GAS comment goes that isnt even close to the same thing as what is going on here, so its not even worth discussing further......

The beautiful thing now is that we have choices, if you dont like Cox there is OTA. Sattelite, and is more and more places FIOS. Vote with your wallet...

Chrissi1va
06-03-08, 12:15 PM
Probably this one, no?

http://www.motorola.com/business/v/item.jsp?vgnextoid=8f2449857f517110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD&localeId=33

Yepp that's the one. He is already on his second one. The first one kept skipping.

ATPTourFan
06-03-08, 02:06 PM
Yepp that's the one. He is already on his second one. The first one kept skipping.

I have a buddy with one too. I dunno if he's had any issues.

Javelin
06-03-08, 02:22 PM
I wonder if you can hook up an external hard drive to this unit? There's a connection for it.

mrbluray911
06-04-08, 11:41 AM
Direct TV have HD with Nesn Yet?

ATPTourFan
06-04-08, 06:10 PM
I wonder if you can hook up an external hard drive to this unit? There's a connection for it.

I doubt Cox would have enabled that feature. I'd love to connect an external SATA drive to my motorola 6412 rev 3 box.

Ph8te
06-04-08, 08:09 PM
Direct TV have HD with Nesn Yet?

Looks like they do, but I would check the DirectTV thread over in the HDTV forum for verification or the DirectTV website....From a quick google search it might be on channel 623

Ph8te
06-04-08, 08:10 PM
I wonder if you can hook up an external hard drive to this unit? There's a connection for it.

I doubt Cox would have enabled that feature. I'd love to connect an external SATA drive to my motorola 6412 rev 3 box.

I think people have tired and faile. I believe that COx has disabled this port to prevent people from adding external Hard Drives.

igneous
06-04-08, 09:08 PM
Probably this one, no?

http://www.motorola.com/business/v/item.jsp?vgnextoid=8f2449857f517110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD&localeId=33

I wonder if cox at the warwick mall has those, Im sick of the old one we have. We've gone through 4 of them too

Dominic26
06-04-08, 11:03 PM
Direct TV have HD with Nesn Yet?

Yes it does. D* started carrying NESN-HD back in October 2007, right after the Red Sox regular season ended! According to my HR-20, NESN-HD is coming in at 1080i, and looks great!!

To access HD channels on D* you go into the favorites menu. There you will NESN (and any other channel they offer in HD) two times. As "NESN" and "NESNHD", both as channel 623. Check the HD one and uncheck the SD one

Dominic

jakemgold
06-05-08, 11:50 AM
For once Cox New England actually updated their website with news of the coming HD channels we noticed posted to DPUC a while back.

http://cox.com/newengland/Cable/June2008_ChannelChanges/default.asp

Looks like us Islanders are actually getting them a week earlier than CT and MA, on June 18. :D

It's the expected slate, though with different channel assignments than listed in the DPUC posting.

CNBC HD 734
AMC HD 750
USA HD 752
Bravo HD 762
SciFi HD 769

Interestingly, "AMC HD", even though it's on this list, is annotated with "coming soon" -- so that may still be in the final negotiation stages.

If anyone cares (not me really), they're moving MTV2 to digital only, and add a few more SD digital channels as well:

LOGO 152
Chiller 157
MTV Jams 191
mtvU 192
MTV TR3S 193
Mun2 194

ATPTourFan
06-05-08, 01:56 PM
For once Cox New England actually updated their website with news of the coming HD channels we noticed posted to DPUC a while back.

http://cox.com/newengland/Cable/June2008_ChannelChanges/default.asp

Looks like us Islanders are actually getting them a week earlier than CT and MA, on June 18. :D

It's the expected slate, though with different channel assignments than listed in the DPUC posting.

CNBC HD 734
AMC HD 750
USA HD 752
Bravo HD 762
SciFi HD 769

Interestingly, "AMC HD", even though it's on this list, is annotated with "coming soon" -- so that may still be in the final negotiation stages.

If anyone cares (not me really), they're moving MTV2 to digital only, and add a few more SD digital channels as well:

LOGO 152
Chiller 157
MTV Jams 191
mtvU 192
MTV TR3S 193
Mun2 194

Thx for the update!

Ph8te
06-05-08, 10:42 PM
For once Cox New England actually updated their website with news of the coming HD channels we noticed posted to DPUC a while back.

http://cox.com/newengland/Cable/June2008_ChannelChanges/default.asp

Looks like us Islanders are actually getting them a week earlier than CT and MA, on June 18. :D

It's the expected slate, though with different channel assignments than listed in the DPUC posting.

CNBC HD 734
AMC HD 750
USA HD 752
Bravo HD 762
SciFi HD 769

Interestingly, "AMC HD", even though it's on this list, is annotated with "coming soon" -- so that may still be in the final negotiation stages.

If anyone cares (not me really), they're moving MTV2 to digital only, and add a few more SD digital channels as well:

LOGO 152
Chiller 157
MTV Jams 191
mtvU 192
MTV TR3S 193
Mun2 194

Wow Cox updated thier website with "news" for once in New England ;)....Thanks for the update I knew they were coming jsut didnt have a date......

I know over in the Cox HD thread looks like we may have a few more coming along this summer\fall...Will be nice to see how they stack up against FIOS once FIOS does its HD upgrade this summer.....

jakemgold
06-05-08, 10:55 PM
I know over in the Cox HD thread looks like we may have a few more coming along this summer\fall...Will be nice to see how they stack up against FIOS once FIOS does its HD upgrade this summer.....

Which channels are you referring to?

I know several Cox affiliates have recently added Weather Channel HD. Also know that Cox acquired rights to Lifetime Movie Network HD at the same time they acquired Lifetime HD rights. Apparently Cox in Pensacola, FL is adding both of these this week in addition to the one's we're getting:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/05/cox-adds-8-fresh-hd-channels-in-pensacola-fl/

Not really any indication of any other channels being added to the docket yet from what I've seen. In fact, after June 18, aside from LMN and Weather, I think the only other channels that any Cox affiliate has that we won't are the HDNet channels. And those have been out there for better than 3 or 4 months on those affiliates, which suggests it's a local only carriage agreement.

I'm curious if anyone knows whether we're coming up against a hard bandwidth wall. The decision to move MTV2 off analog, and the lack of a carriage announcement for LMN and Weather (despite seemingly having national carriage) suggest this.

Meanwhile, the announcement of 27 or so new channels coming to FiOS in July is good news to RI Verizon customers; hopefullly it'll spur Cox New England to stay on top of their game too.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/04/rumor-confirmed-fios-to-add-27-new-hd-channels-in-july/

Ph8te
06-06-08, 04:19 AM
Which channels are you referring to?

I know several Cox affiliates have recently added Weather Channel HD. Also know that Cox acquired rights to Lifetime Movie Network HD at the same time they acquired Lifetime HD rights. Apparently Cox in Pensacola, FL is adding both of these this week in addition to the one's we're getting:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/05/cox-adds-8-fresh-hd-channels-in-pensacola-fl/

Not really any indication of any other channels being added to the docket yet from what I've seen. In fact, after June 18, aside from LMN and Weather, I think the only other channels that any Cox affiliate has that we won't are the HDNet channels. And those have been out there for better than 3 or 4 months on those affiliates, which suggests it's a local only carriage agreement.

I'm curious if anyone knows whether we're coming up against a hard bandwidth wall. The decision to move MTV2 off analog, and the lack of a carriage announcement for LMN and Weather (despite seemingly having national carriage) suggest this.

Meanwhile, the announcement of 27 or so new channels coming to FiOS in July is good news to RI Verizon customers; hopefullly it'll spur Cox New England to stay on top of their game too.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/04/rumor-confirmed-fios-to-add-27-new-hd-channels-in-july/

There is a "Cox Rep" there that said this would be the 1st "wave" of additions with more coming Sept\Oct I believe...I cant find the exact post though...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13959960&postcount=427
Status updates
Just to give everyone some status updates:
Cox wants to get rid of SARA during 2008 and move to OCAP/tru2-way software in most markets by the end of the year. They want three guide options covering SD, HD, and DVR platforms that work across both Motorola and SA (Cisco) based headends.
Standard SD guides will be from the Gemstar/passport based interface.
Enhabced HD guides will be in 16x9 HD format and based on the NDS software and will only be in a widescreen format for HD STB's and HD DVR's.
The Tivo software will be another upgrade option for DVR users who want that interface instead of the other options.
Cox is rolling out a national footprint of about 50-60 national HD channels that are originating from two or more regions. Any new national channels are part of this rollout and part of their new structure. It is in their plan to offer the same channels across the nation to all their subscribers that have had their local area upgraded to handle the new streams. As the local areas are upgraded and can handle in increase in HD traffic, they can pick a few channels to add. Again, this is a continous work in progress and each area will be unique as to how many and which channels to display as they are working out the details.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13960646&postcount=431

Quote:
Originally Posted by yudaman33 View Post
COX better have the following channels by the end of summer or I'll permanently switch to satellite:

USA HD
Sci Fi HD
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
Weather Channel HD
ESPNews HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
FOX News Channel HD
FX HD
Speed HD
AMC HD
ESPN U HD
Planet Green HD
Spike HD

The standard rule to appease the loyal customer: give them what they want. COX needs to take these matters very seriously.
Cox will but will your particular area?

We also have to remember that Cox has been tight lipped as far as channel announcements go. I have a feeling that this most recent post to the website was to help combat the Verizon announcement...

ozfactor
06-06-08, 09:07 AM
be nice for cox to add FX HD by the time the shield comes back :)

Ph8te
06-06-08, 10:24 PM
be nice for cox to add FX HD by the time the shield comes back :)

I dont think we will ever get the Shield in HD unfortunately....I think the Director decided to keep the show uniform much like "The Wire"....I am not 100% certain, but I could have sworn I read an interview somewhere that said HD was not an option for the show........I am a HUGE fan of that show though, it just sux that they have had the longest break between seasons...

ritvman
06-09-08, 10:49 AM
LIN TV and DIRECTV Announce Retrans Agreement for HD Signals


PROVIDENCE, R.I. & EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--LIN TV Corp. (NYSE: TVL - News), a local television and digital media company, and DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, today announced they have entered into an agreement for the retransmission of LIN TV’s broadcast stations in both analog and high-definition. The deal covers television stations owned and/or operated by LIN TV in 15 markets. The retransmission agreement includes: KRQE-TV, KASA-TV (Albuquerque); KXAN-TV, KNVA-TV and KBVO-TV (Austin); WIVB-TV and WNLO-TV (Buffalo); WDTN-TV (Dayton); WANE-TV (Ft. Wayne); WOOD-TV, WOTV-TV, WXSP-CA (Grand Rapids); WLUK-TV (Green Bay); WTNH-TV and WCTX-TV (Hartford-New Haven); WISH-TV and WNDY-TV (Indianapolis); WALA-TV and WBPG-TV (Mobile); WAVY-TV and WVBT-TV (Norfolk); WPRI-TV and WNAC-TV (Providence); WWLP-TV (Springfield) and WUPW-TV (Toledo).

“We are pleased with the outcome of our negotiations,” said Vincent L. Sadusky, president and chief executive officer of LIN TV Corp. “Our stations are leaders in their markets and we’ve made substantial investments to bring our viewers high definition digital programming. The agreement reflects fair value to both parties and is in the best interest of the consumer.”

“With this agreement, DIRECTV will continue to enhance its industry leading HD offer, enabling us to add more HD channels in existing DIRECTV HD local markets and set the stage for roll out of more HD local channels this fall,” said Dan Hartman, senior vice president, Programming, DIRECTV, Inc. “We’re extremely happy with this agreement that is both beneficial for our business and our customers.”

jtaccone
06-10-08, 04:42 PM
Does anyone know when cox cable in RI
will have the weather channel in hd or when is Tivo comming
which I won't hold my breath cox is always taking there sweet time we always get the hd channels 3 years after they come out look at how long it took to get the hallmark channel and lifetime movie channel as always ri looses out

jtaccone
06-10-08, 04:50 PM
I just called cox they said
ESPNews HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
FOX News Channel HD
FX HD
Speed HD
AMC HD
ESPN U HD
Planet Green HD
Spike HD
are channels that people would not watch and are not popular channels

jakemgold
06-10-08, 05:07 PM
I just called cox they said
ESPNews HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
FOX News Channel HD
FX HD
Speed HD
AMC HD
ESPN U HD
Planet Green HD
Spike HD
are channels that people would not watch and are not popular channels

Color me skeptical. I've spoken to Cox reps a few times about HD channels over the last 2 or 3 years (usually when they call pushing a promotion or some such) and they always have a standard respectful, if useless, line about "we appreciate the feedback and are always evaluating new channels". Especially with them continuing to add new channels I find it hard to believe a representative told you explicitly that they would never add those channels since no one would watch them.

jtaccone
06-10-08, 06:48 PM
i Agree but I'll say this
they are very closed mouth on there plans for hdtv and Tivo
they say they are not alowed to say anything and am sure virizon will crush cox
when it comes to hdtv

ransaldi
06-10-08, 08:08 PM
Find it funny that Cox told you no one cares about those channels that you supposedly asked about. They have already announced that they are adding AMC HD next week (6/18).

Ph8te
06-10-08, 08:25 PM
There is a "Cox Rep" there that said this would be the 1st "wave" of additions with more coming Sept\Oct I believe...I cant find the exact post though...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13959960&postcount=427


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13960646&postcount=431


We also have to remember that Cox has been tight lipped as far as channel announcements go. I have a feeling that this most recent post to the website was to help combat the Verizon announcement...

I just called cox they said
ESPNews HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
FOX News Channel HD
FX HD
Speed HD
AMC HD
ESPN U HD
Planet Green HD
Spike HD
are channels that people would not watch and are not popular channels

Hmmm something smells fishy to me...1st of all Cox would NEVER say that people would not watch channels, they would take your request and pass it along.....BTW we have Speed HD On Demand so either you dont have the service or you havent talked to someone from COx....

BTW take a look at the prior posts Cox is adding HD content this month actually, with another wave later in the summer....

As far as future plans go Cox has NEVER talked about future plans to release channels, or about Tivo, its jsut the way they do business.....Not many companies like to let thier competition know what is coming up...

THe Weather Channel HD should be coming soon. Cox has it in other markets so its jsut a matter of time beofre it goes to others...I asked about TiVO elsewhere, RI was a testbed for it, supposedly rumors are that they are having a few issues with it and it is delayed....

jtaccone
06-11-08, 01:25 AM
I called cox
yes were getting the 5 channels but I called and said I want the weather channel FXhd
the disney channel ect. I then said Verizon getting 26 they said there getting channels that are not getting asked for but then again they may say this as they don't want to say much because a cox rep I said this to was like I can tell you anything

Ph8te
06-11-08, 03:01 AM
I called cox
yes were getting the 5 channels but I called and said I want the weather channel FXhd
the disney channel ect. I then said Verizon getting 26 they said there getting channels that are not getting asked for but then again they may say this as they don't want to say much because a cox rep I said this to was like I can tell you anything

There is a difference between what you say here and what you posted earlier......As I said before The Weather Channel HD has been added to other Cox Regions, so its just a mater of time before we get it here.....If people dont request them, then there is a lesser chance of them being added...Call and request them thats the best you can do at this point...

Cox usually never gives any details on future HD plans "officially", this would of course let competitors know what they are planning on doing....The only reason we know about Verizon, is due to a insider letting it clip and the new channels being posted on their site early....

Itrs kind of funny that you said RI is always last, in fact we are usually 1st or close to it in terms of channels, and service in reference to other Cox markets. We have had some HD channels for months where some places are jsut getting them or dont have them yet. We have had OD for much longer then the rest of the markets as well.

If you feel bad about RI, go look at some of the other Cox markets (AZ for instance) where they are still behind us. You also have to remember that agreements are not done nationally by Cox, each region has to sign its own agreement with the "channel". Channels are coming, you just have to be patient.

That being said, Verizon is starting to add the new lineup in July, but no date has been given for the MA\RI area as of yet. All that has been posted is 2 areas. If Cox doesnt make a serious move, I may consider switching, but right now I am goign to stick it out to see what they plan on doing and where our area falls in Verizons upgrade plans.....

jtaccone
06-11-08, 12:24 PM
here it is the e-mail i got from cox
Dear Mr. Taccone:
We thank you for your recent email and channel request. At this time, there are no plans to add the Weather Channel in HD .
Please be advised that our decisions to add or remove programming are based on three (3) factors:
* Research - which we conduct annually
* Customer input - such as your email request
* Viewership - as measured by Nielsen or other rating services
Your request will be carefully factored as we look to future programming changes. We do maintain a file on all customer correspondence concerning programming and will forward your request to the New England Programming Manager.
Please feel free to contact us again with any questions or concerns you may have.

Thank you.
Madelaine
Cox Communications Online Customer Care Team
If you need additional information on other Cox products or services, please visit our web site at
http://www.cox.com

BruinsHockey08
06-11-08, 03:21 PM
here it is the e-mail i got from cox
Dear Mr. Taccone:
We thank you for your recent email and channel request. At this time, there are no plans to add the Weather Channel in HD .
Please be advised that our decisions to add or remove programming are based on three (3) factors:
* Research - which we conduct annually
* Customer input - such as your email request
* Viewership - as measured by Nielsen or other rating services
Your request will be carefully factored as we look to future programming changes. We do maintain a file on all customer correspondence concerning programming and will forward your request to the New England Programming Manager.
Please feel free to contact us again with any questions or concerns you may have.

Thank you.
Madelaine
Cox Communications Online Customer Care Team
If you need additional information on other Cox products or services, please visit our web site at
http://www.cox.com

I think its time Cox customers in New England and other cities being ripped off finally stand up for ourselves and make them add channels not based on popularity but out of interest to those who do want to see these channels. I wish I lived alone, Direct TV would be getting a call from me very soon if Cox doesn't pick up the pace

KML-224
06-11-08, 03:51 PM
LIN TV and DIRECTV Announce Retrans Agreement for HD Signals

The retransmission agreement includes: WTNH-TV and WCTX-TV (Hartford-New Haven)

“We are pleased with the outcome of our negotiations,” said Vincent L. Sadusky, president and chief executive officer of LIN TV Corp. “Our stations are leaders in their markets and we’ve made substantial investments to bring our viewers high definition digital programming. The agreement reflects fair value to both parties and is in the best interest of the consumer.”


Oh really? WTNH-TV/DT has never been #1 in Hartford/New Haven as far as I can tell. WFSB-TV/DT (CBS) is often #1 in this market. Likewise, the 10 PM newscast WTNH produces for WCTX-TV/DT gets obliterated by WTIC-TV/DT (FOX).

On a side note, the last time that I checked, they (LIN) have differences to iron out with Charter Communications franchises here in Connecticut.

Ph8te
06-11-08, 10:22 PM
here it is the e-mail i got from cox
Dear Mr. Taccone:
We thank you for your recent email and channel request. At this time, there are no plans to add the Weather Channel in HD .
Please be advised that our decisions to add or remove programming are based on three (3) factors:
* Research - which we conduct annually
* Customer input - such as your email request
* Viewership - as measured by Nielsen or other rating services
Your request will be carefully factored as we look to future programming changes. We do maintain a file on all customer correspondence concerning programming and will forward your request to the New England Programming Manager.
Please feel free to contact us again with any questions or concerns you may have.

Thank you.
Madelaine
Cox Communications Online Customer Care Team
If you need additional information on other Cox products or services, please visit our web site at
http://www.cox.com

I wouldnt read anything into that email, its the standard reply everyone gets if the channel they request is not available........The more people that request a channel the faster they move to make an agreement with the provider....I got the same email about some of the other channels just a month ago and they are adding them next week....

jakemgold
06-11-08, 11:53 PM
Uh oh... Cox updated their June 2008 page again, and AMC HD seems to have quietly disappeared from the list.

Hope carriage negotiations didn't fall through... was actually hoping for that one.

http://www.cox.com/newengland/Cable/June2008_ChannelChanges/RI_channelchanges.asp

jtaccone
06-12-08, 11:28 AM
yes AMC HD has been pushed back someone from cox
told me but it is coming soon but was told not to hold my breath
as it contracts and there still working on AMC HD, as usual cox scews up again

Ph8te
06-12-08, 10:25 PM
Uh oh... Cox updated their June 2008 page again, and AMC HD seems to have quietly disappeared from the list.

Hope carriage negotiations didn't fall through... was actually hoping for that one.

http://www.cox.com/newengland/Cable/June2008_ChannelChanges/RI_channelchanges.asp

yes AMC HD has been pushed back someone from cox
told me but it is coming soon but was told not to hold my breath
as it contracts and there still working on AMC HD, as usual cox scews up again

I woulndt be so quick to blame Cox on this one...If you know what they are trying to do then youd be happy...From an interview sometime last year, Cox is trying to make sure the channels they have actually show HD material....From a little searching it looks like AMC HD is still stretching most of their material. If this is the case then its no loss to me, I'd rather have the channel when they start showing HD content more often..Once the agreement is made AMC no longer has the urgency to make the switch, while negotiation s are still going on, they have motivation to push the HD content out sooner.....

I believe that the AMC HD channel was a "future add" even in other markets without an actual date, I think Cox hoped to have it live by the 18th, but
something fell through....These things happen all the time, since we dont know details we could point the finger at anyone....

For me I am in the "holding pattern"...I am looking to see when FIOS adds the channels in the RI\MA area (should be this summer) and what Cox has planed as a reply to that...If Cox doesnt have a reply I may just switch, but for now I am sticking with them..

javajunky
06-13-08, 02:31 PM
I have noticed some mpeg blocking and artifacts when watching movies. Being a Cox RI customer for years, I'm wondering if the grass is greener on the satellite side. Anyone has some experience or opinion on the relative picture quality of HD Channels?

GoSlow2GoFast
06-13-08, 10:47 PM
5 more HD channels announced for Cox

http://www.cox.com/newengland/cable/lineups.asp

jtaccone
06-14-08, 12:22 PM
were is the weather channel in hdtv
does anyone know if were getting it

Ph8te
06-15-08, 10:12 AM
For once Cox New England actually updated their website with news of the coming HD channels we noticed posted to DPUC a while back.

http://cox.com/newengland/Cable/June2008_ChannelChanges/default.asp

Looks like us Islanders are actually getting them a week earlier than CT and MA, on June 18. :D

It's the expected slate, though with different channel assignments than listed in the DPUC posting.

CNBC HD 734
AMC HD 750
USA HD 752
Bravo HD 762
SciFi HD 769

Interestingly, "AMC HD", even though it's on this list, is annotated with "coming soon" -- so that may still be in the final negotiation stages.

If anyone cares (not me really), they're moving MTV2 to digital only, and add a few more SD digital channels as well:

LOGO 152
Chiller 157
MTV Jams 191
mtvU 192
MTV TR3S 193
Mun2 194

5 more HD channels announced for Cox

http://www.cox.com/newengland/cable/lineups.asp

Only a week late ;) :P.....

Ph8te
06-18-08, 09:55 AM
CNBC HD 734
USA HD 752
Bravo HD 762
SciFi HD 769
Were added today :).......No HD content on them yet though :(.....SG:A fans will be happy that they can now see thier show in HD though....

jakemgold
06-18-08, 10:00 AM
CNBC HD 734
USA HD 752
Bravo HD 762
SciFi HD 769
Were added today :).......No HD content on them yet though :(.....SG:A fans will be happy that they can now see thier show in HD though....

And I'm happy as a clam... at least until I get bored and want the next batch. :)

I've already seen two programs in HD on USA (Monk, and I forget the other one, earlier).

I know that CNBC HD doesn't have any real "video" content in HD from what I've heard... it's all about the graphics and upscaling...

taugust04
06-19-08, 03:09 AM
And I'm happy as a clam... at least until I get bored and want the next batch. :)

I've already seen two programs in HD on USA (Monk, and I forget the other one, earlier).

I know that CNBC HD doesn't have any real "video" content in HD from what I've heard... it's all about the graphics and upscaling...

As much as I hate the stretching and upscaling on some of these "HD" channels, the quality is still much better than the SD equivalent on most HDTV sets. Even with stations like TBS-HD, I've been more inclined to watch/record from that version than the SD version, since the quality is so much better. So even if the true HD content is lacking, I'm still happy to see Cox add these stations....

Ph8te
06-19-08, 05:04 AM
As much as I hate the stretching and upscaling on some of these "HD" channels, the quality is still much better than the SD equivalent on most HDTV sets. Even with stations like TBS-HD, I've been more inclined to watch/record from that version than the SD version, since the quality is so much better. So even if the true HD content is lacking, I'm still happy to see Cox add these stations....

TBS-HD at night usually shows HD programming (if available)...I know ELR, The Office, and others have been reported as actual HD :)....They are slow, but making moves, even FG is upconverted very nicely during the night "blocks"...

Hopefully people wont blame Cox for the SD material as they dont ahve anything to do with it..

Pantie Bandit
06-19-08, 04:28 PM
Hopefully people wont blame Cox for the SD material as they dont ahve anything to do with it..

+1

It is for this reason that I dont blame cox for waiting before adding these newer HD channels. These channels use up valuable bandwith, and channels like Sci-Fi HD are running programs in 4:3, anyway.
It'll take some time, but I think we'll see more and more true 16:9, high def programming, not just stretching and scaling.

Ph8te
06-19-08, 08:27 PM
+1

It is for this reason that I dont blame cox for waiting before adding these newer HD channels. These channels use up valuable bandwith, and channels like Sci-Fi HD are running programs in 4:3, anyway.
It'll take some time, but I think we'll see more and more true 16:9, high def programming, not just stretching and scaling.

Much of the programming is in SD, however the Sci Fridays and movies I believe are in HD.....

jakemgold
06-20-08, 10:44 AM
Much of the programming is in SD, however the Sci Fridays and movies I believe are in HD.....

They've shown a fair amount of HD. They had two HD movies last night, the first being some original cheesy Nazi monster thing. They also had the 2003 Hulk in HD, which I DVRed. Never actually seen it yet. The guide didn't have this marked as HD though, which suggests unreliable guide info.

USA has had almost wall to wall HD.

CNBC seems to be all about the graphics... fair enough, I suppose.

Bravo on the other hand, seems to have absolutely nothing in HD??

For me, there are two points here. The first, Cox's SD channels look like over compressed garbage on my HD set, which by all accounts (using DVDs and OTA SD) does a good job with upscaling. Even if Bravo HD is all upscaled SD content, I'm happy to have it, because it looks twice as good as the SD channel.

Second, I do "channel surf" and pick and choose occasionally if I'm doing some house work or consulting on my PC in the background. That said, 90% of my "active" viewing habits revolve around series I'm following. For me, it's about being able to get the programming I follow in HD. So for example, I wanted SciFi HD since I follow BSG and USA HD for Monk... would still be on my top channel list even if they showed zero other HD programming.

I guess the point is -- in terms of Cox pursuing channels -- I'm less interested in how much of the programming is in HD as I am in how much quality programming I can get in HD.

ransaldi
06-20-08, 12:18 PM
Part of the NBC deal is to have these channels up for the Olympics. NBC has promised more HD coverage than ever before and some of these channels (Bravo/CNBC) will have wall to wall coverage of events in HD. Also, to get USA (one fo the most watched cable channels) NBC/Universal is going to make you take the lesser channels as part of the package.

jakemgold
06-20-08, 12:24 PM
Part of the NBC deal is to have these channels up for the Olympics. NBC has promised more HD coverage than ever before and some of these channels (Bravo/CNBC) will have wall to wall coverage of events in HD. Also, to get USA (one fo the most watched cable channels) NBC/Universal is going to make you take the lesser channels as part of the package.

Yea, these are all NBC-Universal channels, I figured there was some packaging. The fact that Comcast has SciFi and USA but no CNBC or Bravo gave me pause though. I think given their bandwidth problems they may be paying for these but not using them.

dferr
06-21-08, 08:30 AM
My kids constantly have this channel on and it'd be nice to have it in HD. I just read this week that Comcast Boston has rolled it out.

While I'm not sitting there watch Disney all the time, just when I walk through the room and see the SD picture annoys me.

We've got Bravo and Lifetime, but no Disney!?!?!

Anyone hear anything on this from Cox?

Ph8te
06-22-08, 12:45 PM
My kids constantly have this channel on and it'd be nice to have it in HD. I just read this week that Comcast Boston has rolled it out.

While I'm not sitting there watch Disney all the time, just when I walk through the room and see the SD picture annoys me.

We've got Bravo and Lifetime, but no Disney!?!?!

Anyone hear anything on this from Cox?

Probably not until later this year........

igneous
06-23-08, 08:36 AM
Glad to see all of the new HD stations, I was so disappointed that we didn't get AMC hd though :(

taugust04
06-24-08, 04:02 AM
I don't have my cable card installed on my Tivo HD... yet... are all the new HD channels available to Tivo viewers, or are they using switched video? It would be a bummer if they aren't :(

jtaccone
06-24-08, 08:44 PM
as usual I called cox no plans to add weather channel in hd
was told to much money to add and was told NO HD for the rest of the year as
there is not much bandwith and they cost too much money to add

jakemgold
06-24-08, 09:20 PM
as usual I called cox no plans to add weather channel in hd
was told to much money to add and was told NO HD for the rest of the year as
there is not much bandwith and they cost too much money to add

I'm starting to think you're a Verizon shill or just making stuff up.

We all but know that AMC HD is one the horizon... they were originally aiming for the June 18 roll out, but negotiations were delayed. I'd be very surprised if we don't get that within a month or so.

Cox is still signing deals for HD content, like this one:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6572347.html

Cox reps on the forums have suggested at least a few more channel updates this year, as part of their goal to have approx 80 channels in their major market before years end.

And New England remains of their better markets in terms of capacity and aggressiveness... you can bet that it would be part of any such strategy.

Not to mention, once again, that it simply isn't something that a service rep would likely know, let alone say to a customer.

Your losing credibility here. How much is Verizon paying you?

Ph8te
06-25-08, 12:34 AM
as usual I called cox no plans to add weather channel in hd
was told to much money to add and was told NO HD for the rest of the year as
there is not much bandwith and they cost too much money to add

You seem to take the extreme of what you are told and then post it here, I like Jake am beginning to question your intentions here. Almost EVERY post you have made has been an "attack" on Cox. If you are not happy with them move on...Tell them you ar enot happy with your wallet.

As Jake said and has been posted, New England is actually one of the better markets as far as Bandwidth goes. There WILL be more HD coming this year, I dont know where you got your information from, but it is flawed.....Take a look around at other markets and you will find out that we have one of the biggest channel lineups compared to other Cox Markets.

BTW Cox is going to give you the same answer until there is an agreement and the CSRs have been told it is OK to let you know about the channels. All the CSRs have a standard line when asking about channels you want, "We are sorry at this time there are no plans to add the channel that I am aware of, BUT I would be happy to forward your request on to our XX Department."

If you wanted to talk about public bandwidth snafus you should have brought up Verizon, which have had problems themselves....Not to mention they dropped about 7 channels at last count from their recent HD rollout

Believe me when I say If Verizon steps up to the plate, then I might switch, but right now Cox is suiting me well. There are a few channels that I really want and hopefully Cox New England will add them.

From over at dslreports a user posted the following for the channel realignment..:
7/23 NY
7/28 Pittsburgh
7/30 Richmond VA
7/31 Norfolk VA
8/4 Northern NJ
8/20 Massachusetts
8/25 Philadelphia
9/17 Maryland
10/2 Florida
10/8 Texas
10/9 California

Rhode Island is usually included with MA so expect the upgrade around 8/20...As dates always change though it is NOT in stone as of yet...

Well see if Cox has something planned for around then (which they usually do)....

jakemgold
06-25-08, 10:00 AM
From over at dslreports a user posted the following for the channel realignment..:


What exactly does this mean?

Reassigning frequencies? They announce that out in advance... ? Or do you mean something else by this?

Ph8te
06-25-08, 10:36 AM
What exactly does this mean?

Reassigning frequencies? They announce that out in advance... ? Or do you mean something else by this?

They have been in the process of droping thier analogs and going all digital, once your area is complete you are able to get the "new lineup" which are a number of new HD and SD channels.....It was supposed to be 27 HD, but from reports that I have seen the number may drop for some reason (unknown)....
The realignment has to do with the shuffle of current and addition of new HD channels......

If you look over at dslreports OR the Verizon thread in the HDTV programming thread it is discussed further....The dates that I posted are when the new channels should go "live" in each area.

jtaccone
06-26-08, 04:50 PM
so is cox evergoing to drop there analog service
I thought I read no not for 3 years. one person said I talked to said yes
analog was going then someone else said yes does anyone know for sure? I have digital
so all my cable tv service is digital it used to be awfull but since the switch my tv looks better

sonofjay
06-29-08, 08:50 PM
Hi All,

I am sorry as I am sure this has already been answered. I looked trough the last few days of posts and did not see anything.

Is there something up with WNAC HD? Fox Providence? 99% of the time it is showing the SD format (with sidebars) and then occasionally on commercial it will go full widescreen HD.

I'm have DirecTV. Is there some issue with WNAC or is it DirecTV? I swore I would never go to back to Providence stations after putting an antenna 3 years ago to get Boston stations, but during the summer, with the leaves, etc Fox 25 HD is difficult to get reliably. Should I just continue to ignore the Providence stations and go up and adjust my antenna or is a call to DirecTV in order?

Thanks in advance.

DM2006RI
06-30-08, 12:14 PM
Is there something up with WNAC HD? Fox Providence? 99% of the time it is showing the SD format (with sidebars) and then occasionally on commercial it will go full widescreen HD.

Is it exhibiting this behavior during Fox network broadcasts at night? Most everything you see during the daytime is SD anyway, if you see shows that ought to be in HD that aren't then I would worry.

amq6240
07-03-08, 05:00 PM
Hey all,

I wanted to let you know some news about upcoming HD and SD content launching on Cox. On Wednesday, Aug 6th, we are adding Planet Green HD (channel 744). We’re also adding four temporary Olympic channels from August 8 through the 24th, two of which are HD:

• NBC Olympic HD Basketball ch. 708
• NBC Olympic HD Soccer ch.709
• NBC Olympic Korean SD ch. 128
• NBC Olympic Chinese/Mandarin SD ch. 129

I figured I’d let you know before you had to find it on the web on your own! :)

Amy Quinn
Cox New England Public Affairs

ATPTourFan
07-03-08, 05:07 PM
Hey all,

I wanted to let you know some news about upcoming HD and SD content launching on Cox. On Wednesday, Aug 6th, we are adding Planet Green HD (channel 744). We’re also adding four temporary Olympic channels from August 8 through the 24th, two of which are HD:

• NBC Olympic HD Basketball ch. 708
• NBC Olympic HD Soccer ch.709
• NBC Olympic Korean SD ch. 128
• NBC Olympic Chinese/Mandarin SD ch. 129

I figured I’d let you know before you had to find it on the web on your own! :)

Amy Quinn
Cox New England Public Affairs

Great news, Amy!

Thanks for the heads up and for working with NBC to add that special Olympic content!

sonofjay
07-04-08, 10:16 PM
Is it exhibiting this behavior during Fox network broadcasts at night? Most everything you see during the daytime is SD anyway, if you see shows that ought to be in HD that aren't then I would worry.

Yes. and the exact same show is fullscreen HD on WFTX (when I can get it). The programming and source from Fox are HD but what I see on my TV from WNAC/DirecTV is not.

jakemgold
07-05-08, 03:50 PM
Hey all,

I wanted to let you know some news about upcoming HD and SD content launching on Cox. On Wednesday, Aug 6th, we are adding Planet Green HD (channel 744). We’re also adding four temporary Olympic channels from August 8 through the 24th, two of which are HD:

• NBC Olympic HD Basketball ch. 708
• NBC Olympic HD Soccer ch.709
• NBC Olympic Korean SD ch. 128
• NBC Olympic Chinese/Mandarin SD ch. 129

I figured I’d let you know before you had to find it on the web on your own! :)

Amy Quinn
Cox New England Public Affairs

Thanks, Amy. Again, really appreciate the participation and outreach. I'm very glad to hear about Planet Green HD.

Any word on AMC HD after it fell through for June 18? Is this still in the wings?

Dominic26
07-06-08, 11:41 AM
Hi,

I was just talking to some friends after Mass this morning. They have been getting calls from Cox to get a 3 way bundle (in each case they already have TV and internet). They are reluctant to do so because they have been hearing horror stories of the internet service tanking it after the phone service is connected.

I have all 3 (albeit the television is locals, I have D*) with no issues. Any thoughts, or has anyone experienced this?

Dominic

Javelin
07-06-08, 07:56 PM
Hi,

I was just talking to some friends after Mass this morning. They have been getting calls from Cox to get a 3 way bundle (in each case they already have TV and internet). They are reluctant to do so because they have been hearing horror stories of the internet service tanking it after the phone service is connected.

I have all 3 (albeit the television is locals, I have D*) with no issues. Any thoughts, or has anyone experienced this?

Dominic

I've had the bundle for over a year now and have had no problems at all! They should be able to get 6 months or year for 99 bucks a month like i did....

amq6240
07-07-08, 10:13 PM
Thanks, Amy. Again, really appreciate the participation and outreach. I'm very glad to hear about Planet Green HD.

Any word on AMC HD after it fell through for June 18? Is this still in the wings?

I don't have an update but as soon as we do know, we'll let you all know!:)

amq6240
07-08-08, 09:36 PM
I don't have my cable card installed on my Tivo HD... yet... are all the new HD channels available to Tivo viewers, or are they using switched video? It would be a bummer if they aren't :(

Not sure if you've installed your cable card on your TIVO HD yet, but all HD channels are availabe to our cable card customers and should work with your TIVO HD. Any problems, let me know. Thanks.

Davesrave
07-08-08, 09:50 PM
You seem to take the extreme of what you are told and then post it here, I like Jake am beginning to question your intentions here. Almost EVERY post you have made has been an "attack" on Cox. If you are not happy with them move on...Tell them you ar enot happy with your wallet.

As Jake said and has been posted, New England is actually one of the better markets as far as Bandwidth goes. There WILL be more HD coming this year, I dont know where you got your information from, but it is flawed.....Take a look around at other markets and you will find out that we have one of the biggest channel lineups compared to other Cox Markets.

BTW Cox is going to give you the same answer until there is an agreement and the CSRs have been told it is OK to let you know about the channels. All the CSRs have a standard line when asking about channels you want, "We are sorry at this time there are no plans to add the channel that I am aware of, BUT I would be happy to forward your request on to our XX Department."

If you wanted to talk about public bandwidth snafus you should have brought up Verizon, which have had problems themselves....Not to mention they dropped about 7 channels at last count from their recent HD rollout

Believe me when I say If Verizon steps up to the plate, then I might switch, but right now Cox is suiting me well. There are a few channels that I really want and hopefully Cox New England will add them.

From over at dslreports a user posted the following for the channel realignment..:


Rhode Island is usually included with MA so expect the upgrade around 8/20...As dates always change though it is NOT in stone as of yet...

Well see if Cox has something planned for around then (which they usually do)....


I live in Westport, MA, where Charter is the cable TV provider. They suck (at least here in Westport) I subscribe to DirecTV, including the Nascar package called Hotpass. DirecTV has all the HiDef programming discussed in this thread and more. For instance, D*TV had four simultaneous Hidef Masters and USOpen golf channels if that's your thing like it is mine.

What I'm saying is if you want to be on the cutting edge of HD programming, and you can receive the D*TV satellite signal, you should check it out.
Full Disclosure: I have no dog in this fight and will switch to whatever provider offers the best programming and the best value.

jtaccone
07-08-08, 10:00 PM
Were is the weather channel in hdtv
• NBC Olympic HD Basketball ch. 708
• NBC Olympic HD Soccer ch.709
• NBC Olympic Korean SD ch. 128
• NBC Olympic Chinese/Mandarin SD ch. 129

i personlly could care about the Olympics
I want the weather channel HD
lifetime movie channel HD
AMC hd
Tivo in my dvr box

Joe3
07-09-08, 10:37 AM
Not sure if you've installed your cable card on your TIVO HD yet, but all HD channels are availabe to our cable card customers and should work with your TIVO HD. Any problems, let me know. Thanks.

Is COX going to "switch digital"?

Ph8te
07-09-08, 08:46 PM
I live in Westport, MA, where Charter is the cable TV provider. They suck (at least here in Westport) I subscribe to DirecTV, including the Nascar package called Hotpass. DirecTV has all the HiDef programming discussed in this thread and more. For instance, D*TV had four simultaneous Hidef Masters and USOpen golf channels if that's your thing like it is mine.

What I'm saying is if you want to be on the cutting edge of HD programming, and you can receive the D*TV satellite signal, you should check it out.
Full Disclosure: I have no dog in this fight and will switch to whatever provider offers the best programming and the best value.

Believe me I am aware of what DirectTV offers ;)......Right now they are a 3rd option.....I have always said if you are unhappy and have the ability to change service then do so....

DM2006RI
07-09-08, 11:24 PM
What I'm saying is if you want to be on the cutting edge of HD programming, and you can receive the D*TV satellite signal, you should check it out. .

Agreed. Fact is that D*TV's service in HD beats Cox's hands down since the MPEG4 channels rolled out (yes, I have had both, and the PQ of the D*TV channels is superior, as is their line-up), but few here are interested. In fact the topic of the thread ought to be changed to "All Cox All The Time." And it's no surprise, what with Cox employees telling people in this very thread a bunch of lies about Cox's service and how much "better" it is than what D*TV offers. :rolleyes:

amq6240
07-10-08, 01:23 PM
Is COX going to "switch digital"?

We're always evaluating the best ways to deliver our services to our customers. Switched digital video is among those we're evaluating for future use.

Javelin
07-10-08, 06:46 PM
Agreed. Fact is that D*TV's service in HD beats Cox's hands down since the MPEG4 channels rolled out (yes, I have had both, and the PQ of the D*TV channels is superior, as is their line-up), but few here are interested. In fact the topic of the thread ought to be changed to "All Cox All The Time." And it's no surprise, what with Cox employees telling people in this very thread a bunch of lies about Cox's service and how much "better" it is than what D*TV offers. :rolleyes:

I had D*TV for nine years and was very happy with them. The main reason i switched was price. D*TV couldn't provide me locals so i had have cox for that and internet. It got to pricey to keep both!

Ph8te
07-10-08, 11:59 PM
Agreed. Fact is that D*TV's service in HD beats Cox's hands down since the MPEG4 channels rolled out (yes, I have had both, and the PQ of the D*TV channels is superior, as is their line-up), but few here are interested. In fact the topic of the thread ought to be changed to "All Cox All The Time." And it's no surprise, what with Cox employees telling people in this very thread a bunch of lies about Cox's service and how much "better" it is than what D*TV offers. :rolleyes:

Actually if people brought up the others (D*, FIOS, ect) I am sure people would discuss them. The thing is that members who usually post here have Cox, so obviously that is what is going to be discussed.

I havent seen many posts recently to say how much better Cox is then D* and if the statements were untrue, I would hope someone would respond. Remember though that much of this is personal opinion, so everyone will give different viewpoints.

I agree that D* has far superior HD selection right now and has beaten the Cable companies to the punch as far as delivering the "best" HD experience available right now. I think they caught the Cable Cos with their "pants down" and now its a game of catch up.

I DO however like the fact that a least in RI we are starting to see some competition. With FIOS and Satellite offering competitive services now its a "buyers market". I cant wait to see what the future holds as FIOS makes more of an imprint in the state. IMO I think Cox sees FIOS as more of a threat then any of the satellite companies.

jakemgold
07-11-08, 10:15 AM
I DO however like the fact that a least in RI we are starting to see some competition. With FIOS and Satellite offering competitive services now its a "buyers market". I cant wait to see what the future holds as FIOS makes more of an imprint in the state. IMO I think Cox sees FIOS as more of a threat then any of the satellite companies.

Completely agree.

Keep in mind that folks like me that live in condo complexes, or other complexes where you have limited control over your exterior, often can't mount a dish. Verizon, however, has been very aggressive in getting these places wired.

jakemgold
07-11-08, 10:16 AM
We're always evaluating the best ways to deliver our services to our customers. Switched digital video is among those we're evaluating for future use.

I don't think he was referring to switched digital video. I think he was referring to dropping most or all of the analog line up in favor of 100% digital.

Joe3
07-11-08, 10:33 AM
I don't think he was referring to switched digital video. I think he was referring to dropping most or all of the analog line up in favor of 100% digital.

No, amq6240 got it right.

ATPTourFan
07-11-08, 11:24 AM
No, amq6240 got it right.

I would like to see Cox drop all digitals except for the Limited Basic Tier (ch 2-23). Freeing up analog channels 24-76 would provide bandwidth for about 80 HD channels, assuming standard practice of assigning two HD streams per 6MHz channel via MPEG-2.

This would instantly open the floodgates for more HD programming.

My assumption is the average customer that Cox makes big $ from has at LEAST digital cable service, and likely at one HDTV along with internet service. This must represent the vast majority of Cox customers in RI. Given this assumption, none of these customers with Digital Cable STBs or QAM enabled TVs would notice any change in service if analog channels were scrapped.

Holding out for those customers who have many analog TVs connected via direct coax for extended basic analog cable will hurt Cox badly, IMO.

igneous
07-14-08, 06:01 PM
anyone else notice that fox has completely dropped syndication of the simpsons? Why did this happen?

Ph8te
07-17-08, 10:38 PM
anyone else notice that fox has completely dropped syndication of the simpsons? Why did this happen?

Hmmmm I think youre right and I didnt even notice it at first....I think they decided on going with "The Family Guy" instead......I pretty much remember the switch over around that time I think...

DM2006RI
07-18-08, 10:30 AM
I'm have DirecTV. Is there some issue with WNAC or is it DirecTV? I swore I would never go to back to Providence stations after putting an antenna 3 years ago to get Boston stations, but during the summer, with the leaves, etc Fox 25 HD is difficult to get reliably. Should I just continue to ignore the Providence stations and go up and adjust my antenna or is a call to DirecTV in order?

Are you still having this problem? I haven't had any issue watching WNAC in HD on Directv...there are times during baseball coverage when it will "go" to SD for a few minutes sometimes but that's WNAC's problem and affects all of their signals, not just Directv's. Otherwise the signal is working just fine on the HD programming they DO show.

igneous
07-18-08, 11:16 AM
Hmmmm I think youre right and I didnt even notice it at first....I think they decided on going with "The Family Guy" instead......I pretty much remember the switch over around that time I think...

they put scrubs on when the simpsons normally is. Scrubs is fine, but I find the simpsons to be a show you can rewatch over and over again, while scrubs gets kinda old. Especially the older simpsons episodes when it was at its best

Ph8te
07-18-08, 10:43 PM
they put scrubs on when the simpsons normally is. Scrubs is fine, but I find the simpsons to be a show you can rewatch over and over again, while scrubs gets kinda old. Especially the older simpsons episodes when it was at its best

DOH!!!...thats right....It could be that the Fox syndication rights ended, and they decided not to pay for them anymore....I guess they thought that people would only want 1 cartoon during the pre-prime time slots......

Also, for those looking for inforation on the channels coming to RI from FIOS here is the updated Channel Guide (direct link to the pdf). Its not every channel they promised, but from the sound of things there will be a second round of additions around October....

RI (effective 8/21)
http://www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR/rdonlyres/3C3C5293-95D4-4126-8C88-2341A0494C13/0/RI_P1_82108.pdf

MA (effective 8/20)
http://www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR/rdonlyres/95EF496F-ABE1-4975-B749-166E8BA96543/0/MASS_P1_82008.pdf

MBOCH3077
07-20-08, 06:42 PM
Is there any talk about Cox adding Big Ten Network and/or Weather Channel HD.

jtaccone
07-21-08, 11:33 AM
i called cox the weather channel won't be added till later this year or next
but its in the works so it could be sooner or later i get the run around with cox
on that

tcable
07-21-08, 02:26 PM
Anybody in Taunton with Fios yet? My street with underground utilities is scheduled for completion by July 30. I predict maybe by hard freeze :)

My in laws in Medfield have conduit, but no fiber yet. It's been months since they trenched the conduit.

Still haven't seen anybody puling conduit on my street, but there is lit fiber 50 feet from my house...

Ph8te
07-28-08, 10:39 PM
Just some more FIOS news....These new channels are in addition I believe to the previous additions...These are goinging live\live right now in the NJ\NY market and should make thier way to the RI\MA area hopefully by the "go live" time 8/20 and 8/21. IfRI gets these channels Cox will have been left in the "dust" as far as HD content goes...:

USA HD 550
TBS HD 552
FX HD 553
WGN HD 568
ESPNews HD 572
SPEED CHANNEL 583
BIG TEN HD 585
TENNISS CHANNEL HD 587
VS/GLOF HD 590
OUTDORR CHANNEL HD 591
WORLD FISHING NETWORK HD 597
MAV TV HD 598
CNN HD 600
CNBC HD 602
FOX BUSINESS NETWORK HD 617
FOX NEWS 618
THE WEATHER HD 619
THE SCIENCE CHANNEL HD 622
THE SMITHSONIAN CHANNEL HD 625
HISTORY CHANNEL HD 628
THE BIOGRAPHY HD 629
ANIMAL PLANET HD 630
TLC HD 639
LIFETIME HD 640
QVC HD 650
PLANET GREEN HD 668
TRAVEL CHANNEL HD 670
SCI FI HD 680
BRAVO HD 685
ABC FAMILY HD 699
HALLMARK CHANNEL HD 740
MGM HD 744
DISNEY HD 780
TOON DISNEY HD 781
STARZ EDGE HD 840
STARZ KIDS HD 845
STARZ COMEDY HD 847
SHOWTIME WEST HD 866
SHOWTIME SHOWCASE HD 867
SHOWTIME SHOWCASE W HD 868
SHOWTIME 2 HD 869
SHOWTIME 2 W HD 870
SHOWTIME EXTREME HD 873
SHOWTIME EXTREME WEST HD 874
TMC W HD 886
TMC EXTRA HD 887
TMC EXTRA W HD 888
HBO W HD 901
HBO2 HD 902
HBO2 W HD 903
HBO SIG HD 904
HBO SIG W HD 905
HBO FAM HD 906
HBOI FAM W HD 907
HBO COMEDY HD 908
HBO COMEDY W HD 909
HBO ZONE HD 910
HBO ZONE W HD 911
HBO LATINO W HD 912
HBO LATINO W HD 913
MAX W HD 921
MORE MAX HD 922
MORE MAX W HD 923
ACTION MAX HD 924
ACTION MAX W HD 925
THRILLER MAX HD 926
THRILLER MAX W HD 927
WMAX HD 928
AT MAX HD 929
5 STAR MAX HD 930
OUTER MAX HD 931

Ph8te
07-28-08, 10:49 PM
Is there any talk about Cox adding Big Ten Network and/or Weather Channel HD.

BIG TEN no, The Weather Channel (most likely added with the next "group").

Remember Rhode Island doe not have any of the "BIG TEN" schools, so the addition of that channel would probably look like a "waste" to them.....Unlike Direct TV or Verizon Cox is controlled regionally, where they have "focus" channels..While Cox does have national feed channels, each of their regions is usually handled individually as far as channel additions goes.....If you want the BIG TEN network you are going to have to go to either Verizon or Direct TV...

MBOCH3077
08-01-08, 02:08 PM
But there are Big Ten Schools in other Cox Markets, and there are College Football and
College Basketball fans in RI. So I'd think Cox would at least consider it.

Ph8te
08-01-08, 10:31 PM
But there are Big Ten Schools in other Cox Markets, and there are College Football and
College Basketball fans in RI. So I'd think Cox would at least consider it.

Correct, so those other markets may get it, but as far as Cox new England goes, I wouldnt hold my breath waiting for it. For college game fans COx will have the ESPNs (ESPN, ESPN2, most likely in the future ESPNU). TBT network would most likely be considered "out of market" for New England.

As I said before Cox is usually not handled nationally, they are region specific most of the time. Each Cox Region (market) is handled separately. Unlike the others (Satellite, Verizon) where most of their channels are nationally broadcast, Cox has different contracts for each area.

jtaccone
08-11-08, 04:24 PM
SO is cox ever getting the WEATHER CHANNEL in HD
AMC HD
Lifetime movie network hd
Hallmark hd
caller id on the TV
or the slouth network

ATPTourFan
08-14-08, 09:51 PM
I just want to say how pleased I am to see how WJAR has finally employed a method of superimposing their call letters on top of HD television.

For the first few days of the Olympics, whenever WJAR would have to identify themselves, the HD feed would drop back to SD and channel 10 would post a relatively huge, obnoxious station logo over the action. Viewers would no doubt be distracted away from what they were actually trying to watch. No doubt some of them thinking they messed up their TV given they were now watching grainy SD.

However, just a few nights ago, I was thrilled to see that WJAR now has the technology to place their logo and call letters over the HD source without the switch back to SD. What's even better is that their new graphics have a smaller footprint and aren't nearly as distracting (since they're mostly white text).

Congratulations, Channel 10, for taking some small steps towards leaving SD behind!!

Joe3
08-15-08, 04:07 PM
Oh yes indeed,

Thank you Rhode Island Channel10 for not having us watch you push a button.

Oh and Rhode Island government for leaving the bathroom sink on the wall

And thank you Rhode Island representatives who stayed out of jail this week.

And thank you Rhode Island…

brenden77
08-15-08, 06:16 PM
I hear you. It annoys the hell out of me when they drop you out of HD just to put their stupid logo up there... or when there's a news or weather alert that needs to scroll on the bottom.

toenail
08-17-08, 08:01 AM
I too was greatly relieved to see that the station ID process had come into the 21st century on WJAR. Now if they could just use a little contact cleaner on the switch for other SD/HD transitions...

mppy129
08-19-08, 09:15 PM
Well, I just found out I am once again losing a high quality Boston HD Local for a piece of crap Providence HD Local. First off, WNAC looks worse than what TV probably looked like back in the 70's. Sometimes when I am watching FOX HD programming, WNAC screws up and I am watching a HORRIBLE SD picture. I also have two FOX logos. One for where the HD one should be, and another in the corner of the SD picture. The news station for WPRI and WNAC look like they are from the dark ages compared to the same affiliate in Boston. ABC 6's picture is utterly disgusting when you switch between WCVB, and than to WLNE. I had Wipeout on earlier, switched to see the difference, and what a HUGE difference. WCVB actually had bright crisp color. WLNE looked like a washed out SD version. CW 28 HD and NBC 10 are the ONLY good HD locals. How can you people in RI deal with this horrible picture? The new station I am speaking of is WPRI.

vfrjim
08-19-08, 10:36 PM
Well, I just found out I am once again losing a high quality Boston HD Local for a piece of crap Providence HD Local. First off, WNAC looks worse than what TV probably looked like back in the 70's. Sometimes when I am watching FOX HD programming, WNAC screws up and I am watching a HORRIBLE SD picture. I also have two FOX logos. One for where the HD one should be, and another in the corner of the SD picture. The news station for WPRI and WNAC look like they are from the dark ages compared to the same affiliate in Boston. ABC 6's picture is utterly disgusting when you switch between WCVB, and than to WLNE. I had Wipeout on earlier, switched to see the difference, and what a HUGE difference. WCVB actually had bright crisp color. WLNE looked like a washed out SD version. CW 28 HD and NBC 10 are the ONLY good HD locals. How can you people in RI deal with this horrible picture? The new station I am speaking of is WPRI.

I deal with it by only watching Providence channels when I need to, I enjoy all the Boston channels predominantly.

Ph8te
08-19-08, 10:37 PM
Well, I just found out I am once again losing a high quality Boston HD Local for a piece of crap Providence HD Local. First off, WNAC looks worse than what TV probably looked like back in the 70's. Sometimes when I am watching FOX HD programming, WNAC screws up and I am watching a HORRIBLE SD picture. I also have two FOX logos. One for where the HD one should be, and another in the corner of the SD picture. The news station for WPRI and WNAC look like they are from the dark ages compared to the same affiliate in Boston. ABC 6's picture is utterly disgusting when you switch between WCVB, and than to WLNE. I had Wipeout on earlier, switched to see the difference, and what a HUGE difference. WCVB actually had bright crisp color. WLNE looked like a washed out SD version. CW 28 HD and NBC 10 are the ONLY good HD locals. How can you people in RI deal with this horrible picture? The new station I am speaking of is WPRI.

Well for one I dont watch ABC 6, because its still "behind" as far as local stuff goes. ABC 6 has always hada crappy SD picture, but I dont watch the SD version, so I havent seen it in a LONG time..As far as channel 12 (Fox) goes, I havent had an issue with the HD programming, the only time I ever saw the double "bug" is when viewing OTA, when viewing on Cox there is no double bug....

BTW Boston is a bigger market then Providence is, thus they have more money to provide better equipment, which leads to better picture...This especially goes for the news, ABC 6 is the worse of the 3 by FAR as far as quality goes.

You also didnt mention WHO switched you, I would be surprised if it was a national group as usually they give MA the Boston channels.

Not sure what you were watching on WNAC where they "messed up" as far as HD goes, but I havent found many mistakes on their end.

alg2468
08-21-08, 11:54 AM
Well for one I dont watch ABC 6, because its still "behind" as far as local stuff goes. ABC 6 has always hada crappy SD picture, but I dont watch the SD version, so I havent seen it in a LONG time..As far as channel 12 (Fox) goes, I havent had an issue with the HD programming, the only time I ever saw the double "bug" is when viewing OTA, when viewing on Cox there is no double bug....

BTW Boston is a bigger market then Providence is, thus they have more money to provide better equipment, which leads to better picture...This especially goes for the news, ABC 6 is the worse of the 3 by FAR as far as quality goes.

You also didnt mention WHO switched you, I would be surprised if it was a national group as usually they give MA the Boston channels.

Not sure what you were watching on WNAC where they "messed up" as far as HD goes, but I havent found many mistakes on their end.
ABC6 is the worse for news quality? Have you tuned into the station's news lately? The graphics are excellent as well as the news content. If anything, they are making big strides in presenting the news.

DM2006RI
08-21-08, 06:00 PM
Well, I just found out I am once again losing a high quality Boston HD Local for a piece of crap Providence HD Local. First off, WNAC looks worse than what TV probably looked like back in the 70's. Sometimes when I am watching FOX HD programming, WNAC screws up and I am watching a HORRIBLE SD picture. I also have two FOX logos. One for where the HD one should be, and another in the corner of the SD picture. The news station for WPRI and WNAC look like they are from the dark ages compared to the same affiliate in Boston. ABC 6's picture is utterly disgusting when you switch between WCVB, and than to WLNE. I had Wipeout on earlier, switched to see the difference, and what a HUGE difference. WCVB actually had bright crisp color. WLNE looked like a washed out SD version. CW 28 HD and NBC 10 are the ONLY good HD locals. How can you people in RI deal with this horrible picture? The new station I am speaking of is WPRI.

Jeez I dunno, I'm still used to watching black and white. :p In terms of HD the only real difference I see is WCVB and WLNE -- the picture on the former is preferrable to the latter. Otherwise 10 is comparable to 7, 28 looks great, 64 is fine and 25 has a weak signal so it's basically a non factor here. 36 is a joke, sure, but 2 is easily accessible and its signal carries throughout the state.

As far as the NEWS goes and the "quality" of the broadcast signals, you sound like you are totally uninformed as far as the markets go -- Boston is a major US market, Providence is barely Top 50 (if it's even that). Not bad, but it's not Boston. Obviously unless you just got back from Mars you know that already know that but it sounds like you're just figuring that out. :p

DM2006RI
08-21-08, 06:03 PM
ABC6 is the worse for news quality? Have you tuned into the station's news lately? The graphics are excellent as well as the news content. If anything, they are making big strides in presenting the news.

They might be making strides in the ratings but I find their content and style completely unwatchable now. Anchors staring right into the camera with lines like "get a load of this!" and "check this out!" Jim Hummel was right to quit the station -- they wanted him to start using terms like "jerk" and "thug" in his reporting...which once upon a time used to be objective.

Frankly I think 6 is headed right back into the gutter where they used to be. The tabloid style will give them a bump for a time but it won't last. And Allison Alexander is one of the worst anchorwomen I've ever seen, anywhere.

Javelin
08-21-08, 07:48 PM
And Allison Alexander is one of the worst anchorwomen I've ever seen, anywhere.[/QUOTE]

You aren't kidding, she looks like a deer in the headlights! One of the most robotic anchors i have ever seen.

Ph8te
08-21-08, 10:24 PM
ABC6 is the worse for news quality? Have you tuned into the station's news lately? The graphics are excellent as well as the news content. If anything, they are making big strides in presenting the news.

My post has NOTHING to do with the quality of the actual news presented, my post was 100% directed at the quality of the "feed". I really dont care for most of the local news channels and rarely watch them (I watch mostly national news).

As far as the "feed" goes my opinion stands as far as ABC6 having the worse of the 4.....

Ph8te
08-21-08, 10:29 PM
BTW today was also the "go live" for adding the extra channels on FIOS....I havent seen anyone post what channels have been added, but it looks like MA got more then they expected and are now at ~87 HD channels (including premiums). If I see someone post a channel list of additions Ill post it here, unless someone who has FIOS here would like to post them ;).

NightmareRec0n
08-23-08, 10:53 PM
Any news in FIOS is coming to the eastern part of the state especially Tiverton?

Cox is terrible iMO and expensive,but they are the only high speed internet provider around
I could get D* or E*and then I loose the bundle discount.....



I am the only one surprise none of the those stations have gone to HD?
I mean I doubt it costs THAT much.

Ph8te
08-24-08, 06:16 PM
Any news in FIOS is coming to the eastern part of the state especially Tiverton?

Cox is terrible iMO and expensive,but they are the only high speed internet provider around
I could get D* or E*and then I loose the bundle discount.....



I am the only one surprise none of the those stations have gone to HD?
I mean I doubt it costs THAT much.

I havent heard anything...The best thing to do is keep an eye out on the RIPUC site for to see when they are allowed to offer it. After that, its a waiting game for them to deploy it to your area..

Ph8te
08-24-08, 06:24 PM
OK here is the list of HD channels now available to FIOS, hopefully Cox comes through with something soon:
PBS - WGBH HD 502
ABC - WLNE DT 506
PBS - WSBE HD 508
CW - WLWC DT 509
NBC - WJAR DT 510
FOX - WNAC DT 511
CBS - WPRI DT 512
New England Sport Net HD
USA HD 550
TNT HDTV 551
TBS in HD 552
Universal HDTV 567
HD Net 569
ESPN HDTV 570
ESPN2 HDTV 574
NBC Olympics 1 581
NBC Olympics 2 582
Big Ten Network HD 585
NFL Network HD 588
VS. Golf HD 590
Outdoor Channel HD 591
World Fishing Network HD 597
MAV TV HD 598
CNN HD 600
CNBC HD+ 602
The Weather Channel HD 619
Discovery Channel HD 620
National Geographic Channel HD 621
Science Channel HD 622
Smithsonian Channel HD 625
History Channel HD 628
Animal Planet HD 630
HD Theater 631
TLC HD 639
Lifetime HD [East] 640
Lifetime Movie Network HD 641
Food Network HD 664
HGTV HD 665
Wealth TV HDTV 669
Sci-Fi HD 680
A&E HD 681
Bravo HD 685
MHD 711
HD Net Movies 746
Starz HDTV 840
Starz Edge HD 842
Starz Kids & Family HD 845
Starz Comedy HD 847
Showtime HDTV 865
Showtime HDTV West 866
Showtime Showcase HD 867
Showtime Showcase West HD 868
Showtime 2 HD 869
Showtime 2 HD West 870
Showtime Extreme HD 873
Showtime Extreme HD West 874
TMC HDTV 885
The Movie Channel HD West 886
The Movie Channel Xtra HD 887
The Movie Channel Xtra HD West 888
HBO HDTV 899
HBO HD [West] 901
HBO 2 HD 902
HBO 2 HD [West] 903
HBO Signature HD 904
HBO Signature HD West 905
HBO Family HD 906
HBO Family HD West 907
HBO Comedy HD 908
HBO Comedy HD West 909
HBO Zone HD 910
HBO Zone HD West 911
HBO Latino HD East 912
HBO Latino HD West 913
Cinemax HDTV 920
Cinemax HD [West] 921
More Max HD [East] 922
More Max HD [West] 923
Action Max HD [East] 924
Action Max HD [West] 925
Thriller Max HD [East] 926
Thriller Max HD [West] 927
WMAX HD 928
At Max HD 929
Five Star Max HD 930
OuterMax HD 931

Looks like ~86 available HD channels now which should go to ~84 once the Olympic channels are removed. I might have missed some, but I think I got them all. I know there are some people that were looking for TWC and The Big Ten, which are now offered on FIOS.....There should be another 13-14 or so channels being added before the end of the year to match the new york 100 list as well...

BTW here is the updated PDF for the channel listing for RI...
http://www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR/rdonlyres/15F10949-C866-4B0D-A969-4A14CC6BF5F7/0/RI_PF_82108.pdf

Looks like they are now listing Mojo, which if it is live would be the last channel I believe that Cox has that I actually watch, which they didnt have in the past...

Blackduck
08-26-08, 03:27 PM
Does anyone know if channel 10, WJAR, is every going to broadcast the Retro Network on 10.3, as they had announced back in the early spring?

mppy129
08-27-08, 02:07 PM
WPRI-HD was just added to Comcast today, and I have to say, LIN Broadcasting sucks. I decided to see if there was a difference, and there was a HUGE difference. WBZ had a bright color and was sharp, while WPRI had a picture that looked like it had no saturation and the picture was extremely dull. What makes it worse, was that it was broadcasting a show that was being shown on all CBS stations! I am guessing this has to do with the company that owns the station. WLNE, WNAC, and WPRI are the worst stations. WJAR is almost comparable to WHDH. The latter tends to have a more sharp picture. WLWC is only comparable to WLVI when you are tuned to the HD channel. WLWC HD is probably the best Providence Local by far. However, turn to the SD version, and the picture is way to saturated. I bought a dinky 20$ antenna and with a Motorola signal booster, I can sometimes get a great reception to the Boston Locals. I defiantly plan on buying a more expensive indoor antenna with a built in amplifier in the close future :).

Joe3
08-29-08, 10:14 AM
WPRI-HD was just added to Comcast today, and I have to say, LIN Broadcasting sucks. I decided to see if there was a difference, and there was a HUGE difference. WBZ had a bright color and was sharp, while WPRI had a picture that looked like it had no saturation and the picture was extremely dull. What makes it worse, was that it was broadcasting a show that was being shown on all CBS stations! I am guessing this has to do with the company that owns the station. WLNE, WNAC, and WPRI are the worst stations. WJAR is almost comparable to WHDH. The latter tends to have a more sharp picture. WLWC is only comparable to WLVI when you are tuned to the HD channel. WLWC HD is probably the best Providence Local by far. However, turn to the SD version, and the picture is way to saturated. I bought a dinky 20$ antenna and with a Motorola signal booster, I can sometimes get a great reception to the Boston Locals. I defiantly plan on buying a more expensive indoor antenna with a built in amplifier in the close future :).

Hey, welcome to our world in RI for the last 25 years.

And forget about all that crap you were told as a kid that you living in a democracy have a right to the best of information and its delivery.

RoyGBiv
08-29-08, 12:22 PM
This is the reason I've had DirecTV for all these years. I got rid of Cox 13 years ago. Since 2000, I have had OTA HD that comes in perfectly from Boston with an antenna in my attic. I almost never watch RI stations because the picture quality is awful compared to Boston.

SMK

jzareski
08-30-08, 01:40 AM
WEDH DT-45 Hartford, WEDN DT-9 Norwich & CPTV HD

Quote:
Originally Posted by jzareski
Wednesday August 27, 2008:

1) WEDH DT-45 Hartford has been operating today on one power amplifier at approximately 58% power. Additional work is needed to bring the second amplifier on line, which would provide 100% power (465 Kw ERP).
PSIP WEDH-1 pgm 3 only. 4, 5, 6 blank.
WEDH 24-1

2) WEDN DT-9 Norwich is operating at 100% power (1.25 Kw ERP). On February 18, 2008, power will be increased to 4.2 Kw ERP.
PSIP WEDN-1 pgm 3 only. 4, 5, 6 blank.
WEDN 53-1

3) A failure this weekend in the CPTV HD MC has caused a temporary suspension of all HD transmissions. The current transmissions are originating from the CPTV SD MC which are being upconverted to HD. Equipment is on order and hopefully CPTV HD MC operations will be resumed in a couple of days...

4) You'll know it when you see it...!!!.

Saturday August 30, 2008:

FYI Update:

1) At 2:58 PM Friday, August 29, 2008, WEDH DT-45 Hartford has been operating at 100% power (465 Kw ERP).

2) WEDN DT-9 Norwich has been operating at 100% power (1.25 Kw ERP) since 8:17 PM Wednesday August 27, 2008.

3) CPTV hopes to restore CPTV HD MC operations by the end of next week.

4) You'll definately know it when you see it...!!!

Nascar#43
09-01-08, 12:46 PM
WPRI-HD was just added to Comcast today, and I have to say, LIN Broadcasting sucks. I decided to see if there was a difference, and there was a HUGE difference. WBZ had a bright color and was sharp, while WPRI had a picture that looked like it had no saturation and the picture was extremely dull. What makes it worse, was that it was broadcasting a show that was being shown on all CBS stations! I am guessing this has to do with the company that owns the station. WLNE, WNAC, and WPRI are the worst stations. WJAR is almost comparable to WHDH. The latter tends to have a more sharp picture. WLWC is only comparable to WLVI when you are tuned to the HD channel. WLWC HD is probably the best Providence Local by far. However, turn to the SD version, and the picture is way to saturated. I bought a dinky 20$ antenna and with a Motorola signal booster, I can sometimes get a great reception to the Boston Locals. I defiantly plan on buying a more expensive indoor antenna with a built in amplifier in the close future :).

Watching the US Open over the weekend WPRI was showing it in SD while WBZ had it in HD, this is just great. Comcast better look into this football season starts next week.

mppy129
09-01-08, 02:02 PM
Ahhh, you beat me to it ;). WPRI seems to be fluctuating between showing it in HD and showing it in SD. Also, there is nothing you can do about it. Comcast is only showing what is being sent to them. I am currently using an antenna, and it is also being shown in SD on there. I odn't know if anyone noticed, but during when McCain's running mate was being introduced, WBZ switched over to CBS HD News, while WPRI hung around with their local station, then switched over to CBS News in SD! Also, WNAC refuses to show late night programs in HD. WFXT shows Madtv in HD, but WNAC has their big obnoxious blue FOX sign, indicating HD, but the picture is actually SD and has a second FOX logo on the picture. LIN Broadcasting should do us all a favor and go bankrupt.

DM2006RI
09-02-08, 11:43 PM
Not sure if someone from WPRI posts on here but, like you guys, I'd love to know what's going on.

They've never been this bad at showing SD content in place of HD to this degree (an entire DAY of the US Open not in HD??!? I mean I've seen a few minutes lost on 12 over the years, but an entire 7-hour broadcast??).

Something's got to be wrong technically....if it was just incompetence you'd think they would have figured it out at some point during the 7 hours it was on the air!

kdwebsol
09-03-08, 04:21 PM
Is anyone having a problem with WLWC 28.1 using an OTA. I only watch one show on the CW and was able to get this channel last year. Nothing has changed with my setup and all the other locals seem fine.

I am able to get the analog channel 28 (not clear) but get no signal 28.1.

Any info will be a great help.

Thanks,
Ken

jzareski
09-03-08, 05:22 PM
Saturday August 30, 2008:

FYI Update:

1) At 2:58 PM Friday, August 29, 2008, WEDH DT-45 Hartford has been operating at 100% power (465 Kw ERP).

2) WEDN DT-9 Norwich has been operating at 100% power (1.25 Kw ERP) since 8:17 PM Wednesday August 27, 2008.

3) CPTV hopes to restore CPTV HD MC operations by the end of next week.

4) You'll definately know it when you see it...!!!

CPTV HD operations was restored at 7:30 AM today, Wednesday September 3, 2008. Enjoy tonights broadcasts...

toenail
09-03-08, 09:12 PM
Anyone having issues with WNAC-DT 64-1 over the air? I lost it about 2-3 days ago. I still get analog 64 just fine. Nothing changed in my set-up.

kdwebsol
09-04-08, 09:12 AM
Anyone having issues with WNAC-DT 64-1 over the air? I lost it about 2-3 days ago. I still get analog 64 just fine. Nothing changed in my set-up.

I have noticed that my signal is a little lower on WNAC-DT, still receiving with no dropouts. I am only 3.8 miles from the tower (AntennaWeb.org data).

Are you having any problems with WLWC-DT?

Ken

toenail
09-04-08, 06:03 PM
I have noticed that my signal is a little lower on WNAC-DT, still receiving with no dropouts. I am only 3.8 miles from the tower (AntennaWeb.org data).

Are you having any problems with WLWC-DT?

Ken

If that is 28-1 then no, it comes in crystal clear. When I check signal strength for 64-1 I'm getting "0". I may try a re-scan and see if I can get it back.

toenail
09-04-08, 08:11 PM
I did a re-scan of available channels. 64-1 shows up as available, but when I select it it won't tune in. It was working fine up until a few days ago. When I check signal strength it still shows "0" as if there is no transmission at all. Analog 64 still comes in fine. Kind of a bummer to lose Fox right as the NFL season gets under way. I'm in Cranston. Nobody else with this issue?

kdwebsol
09-04-08, 08:19 PM
If that is 28-1 then no, it comes in crystal clear. When I check signal strength for 64-1 I'm getting "0". I may try a re-scan and see if I can get it back.

Yes 28-1. I was getting high 60-70 last season for supernatural now I am getting "0". I will have play around with my antenna or maybe get the ss-2000.

Sounds like you are having the same problem with 64-1.

Thank you for the info! Now I know it is my setup.

Thanks again,
Ken

dferr
09-04-08, 11:02 PM
Anyone here have FIOS TV?

I just pulled the plug to switch from Cox (various reasons) and was wondering about channels available. What I read online, on Verizon's site, conflicts with other things I've heard.

toenail
09-06-08, 11:39 AM
So I think I know why I can't get 64-1 to tune in over-the air. Antennaweb shows it's frequency assignment as 54. When I tune to physical digital 54 I get virtual digital 4-1 which is wbz cbs out of boston. If I tune to virtual digital 4-1 though it shows that channel's frequency assignmet as 30 also verified by antennaweb. So my tuner shows WBZ somehow using both 30 and 54 as broadcast frequencies, and as a result I no longer get Fox Providence.

What on earth do I do to fix this issue? E-mail to Fox Providence has gone unanswered.

amq6240
09-08-08, 05:42 PM
Hey all,

Sorry to read about all of the OTA tuner issues some have been having. I thought you'd want to know about some additions to COX's HD line-up, coming October 10:

Spike HD, ch. 737
MTV HD, ch. 760
Comedy HD, ch. 758
Nickelodeon HD, ch. 770
VH1 HD, ch. 759
CMT HD, ch. 761
AMC HD, ch. 750

Will keep you posted.

Thanks!

ATPTourFan
09-09-08, 07:21 PM
Hey all,

Sorry to read about all of the OTA tuner issues some have been having. I thought you'd want to know about some additions to COX's HD line-up, coming October 10:

Spike HD, ch. 737
MTV HD, ch. 760
Comedy HD, ch. 758
Nickelodeon HD, ch. 770
VH1 HD, ch. 759
CMT HD, ch. 761
AMC HD, ch. 750

Will keep you posted.

Thanks!

Thanks for the news, amq! Nice to see Cox continuing to beef up its HD lineup. I'm very pleased with those channels as well.

igneous
09-10-08, 12:21 AM
Hey all,

Sorry to read about all of the OTA tuner issues some have been having. I thought you'd want to know about some additions to COX's HD line-up, coming October 10:

Spike HD, ch. 737
MTV HD, ch. 760
Comedy HD, ch. 758
Nickelodeon HD, ch. 770
VH1 HD, ch. 759
CMT HD, ch. 761
AMC HD, ch. 750

Will keep you posted.

Thanks!
awesome, was hoping to see fx, but thats still decent

jakemgold
09-10-08, 04:24 PM
Hey all,

Sorry to read about all of the OTA tuner issues some have been having. I thought you'd want to know about some additions to COX's HD line-up, coming October 10:

Spike HD, ch. 737
MTV HD, ch. 760
Comedy HD, ch. 758
Nickelodeon HD, ch. 770
VH1 HD, ch. 759
CMT HD, ch. 761
AMC HD, ch. 750

Will keep you posted.

Thanks!

Thanks for the updates as always. Good to hear. I have to admit, that I'm leaning strongly toward FiOS now that the channel upgrade has come through, but this might keep me around a bit longer.

I don't know if you can or have an answer, Amy, but can you speak to how Cox is making room, bandwidth wise, for these channels?

It seems apparent that bandwidth is getting squeezed, what with some recent analog channel moves. I'm doubting Cox has "surplus" bandwidth for 7 more HD channels. Will Cox be compressing their channels more aggressively, a la Comcast, to make room? Will we see more analog channels move to digital... ?

Also, any news on the HD IPG upgrades?

kdwebsol
09-16-08, 05:11 PM
I bought a Winegard SS 2000 SquareShooter in hopes to pick up 28-1. But I can not seem to pick up the channel with this antenna in the attic. Can anyone recommend someone who can install this antenna on my roof.

Thanks!

toenail
09-16-08, 10:14 PM
Anyone else having OTA issues? I lost WNAC-DT Fox 64-1 two weeks ago and tonight I lost WNAC Fox analog 64. Also noticed all of the HD broadcasts on WJAR-DT NBC 10-1 are being shown in low def for about a day now. Tonight WBZ-DT CBS 4-1 is showing primetime in low def but WPRI CBS 12-1 is showing it in HD. What gives?

amq6240
09-17-08, 12:38 PM
Thanks for the updates as always. Good to hear. I have to admit, that I'm leaning strongly toward FiOS now that the channel upgrade has come through, but this might keep me around a bit longer.

I don't know if you can or have an answer, Amy, but can you speak to how Cox is making room, bandwidth wise, for these channels?

It seems apparent that bandwidth is getting squeezed, what with some recent analog channel moves. I'm doubting Cox has "surplus" bandwidth for 7 more HD channels. Will Cox be compressing their channels more aggressively, a la Comcast, to make room? Will we see more analog channels move to digital... ?

Also, any news on the HD IPG upgrades?


Hi -

We have no intentions of compressing video.

Continuous enhancements to our network and technology make it possible for us to keep adding HD channels. Notably, the multi-million dollar network project we completed across our entire Rhode Island footprint in 2007 greatly expanded the bandwidth of our fiber optic-based broadband network. Additionally, as you noted, moving channels from analog to digital gives us the capacity to add two or three HD channels. We’ll continue to look at demand for specific channels and make adjustments as needed. Finally, switched digital architecture is one option we may consider for future use, as I’ve stated previously.

Not sure what you are asking about on HD IPG upgrades. Can you clarify?

jakemgold
09-17-08, 01:11 PM
Hi -

We have no intentions of compressing video.

Continuous enhancements to our network and technology make it possible for us to keep adding HD channels. Notably, the multi-million dollar network project we completed across our entire Rhode Island footprint in 2007 greatly expanded the bandwidth of our fiber optic-based broadband network. Additionally, as you noted, moving channels from analog to digital gives us the capacity to add two or three HD channels. We’ll continue to look at demand for specific channels and make adjustments as needed. Finally, switched digital architecture is one option we may consider for future use, as I’ve stated previously.

Not sure what you are asking about on HD IPG upgrades. Can you clarify?

HD IPG = high def interactive programming guide.

Right now, the programming guide does not take advantage of 16x9 HD screens. That means on HD channels (or others of course), when you bring up the guide, you get a 4:3 window for the guide and DVR functionality, instead of take advantage of the widescreen.

Thanks for the update on the bandwidth. Any idea how many HD channels Cox currently has the bandwidth to add (pre SDV) without moving analog channels to digital or further compressing?

RoyGBiv
09-17-08, 01:34 PM
Anyone else having OTA issues? I lost WNAC-DT Fox 64-1 two weeks ago and tonight I lost WNAC Fox analog 64. Also noticed all of the HD broadcasts on WJAR-DT NBC 10-1 are being shown in low def for about a day now. Tonight WBZ-DT CBS 4-1 is showing primetime in low def but WPRI CBS 12-1 is showing it in HD. What gives?

I have not had all the same problems you have with reception, but as to WBZ showing a SD version of a show while PRI is showing HD, this unfortunately happens all too often. There is a person who is physically changing settings in the control room (people call it "flipping the switch") depending on the signal they are receiving. Sometimes the techs just don't do it properly or forget to change the signal after commercials, etc. Sometimes it is due to technical problems. This weekend, ABC's college football was in SD from Boston and HD from RI. My experience is usually it is the Boston stations that are showing it correctly while RI stations are stuck in SD, but things vary.

When HD first started and this happened much more frequently, people used to post phone numbers direct to stations' control rooms so people could call in to get the HD broadcast if the tech had forgotten about it.

SMK

toenail
09-17-08, 03:51 PM
I have not had all the same problems you have with reception, but as to WBZ showing a SD version of a show while PRI is showing HD, this unfortunately happens all too often. There is a person who is physically changing settings in the control room (people call it "flipping the switch") depending on the signal they are receiving. Sometimes the techs just don't do it properly or forget to change the signal after commercials, etc. Sometimes it is due to technical problems. This weekend, ABC's college football was in SD from Boston and HD from RI. My experience is usually it is the Boston stations that are showing it correctly while RI stations are stuck in SD, but things vary.

When HD first started and this happened much more frequently, people used to post phone numbers direct to stations' control rooms so people could call in to get the HD broadcast if the tech had forgotten about it.

SMK

My experience with the Boston vs Providence markets getting the "flipping the switch" right is similar to yours. I usually find that Boston has it correct and Providence dropped the ball.

For the life of me I can't figure out the Fox thing though. It's not like I started getting break-up, drop-outs or low signal, it's that the signal is simply gone. And now for analog too. I'm wondering if they reduced power and it's just enough to drop completely from my set-up but not others. Time to bypass the 3 splitters and upgrade to RG6 quad from the CM4228 and see if that restores it.

toenail
09-17-08, 08:17 PM
So for grins I swapped tuners (my set has two) and after a re-scan, the other tuner picks up 64-1 but not 64. OK by me since I have no use for the analog, but any idea what caused this? The only variable is the tuners. I still have yet to swap out splitters and cable. Can a tuner lose it's ability to grab certain frequencies?

mppy129
09-17-08, 11:00 PM
Does anyone know why these shows are not shown in HD in the Providence Market?

1. Jeopardy
2. Wheel of Fortune
3. Oprah
4. Dr. Phil
5. Inside
6. ET

All of these are shown in HD in the Boston Market. Also, the worst part is that 1,2,5,6 label their logo with the HD right under the name. Is this simply a lack of technology or someone is switching the feed to HD?

Eurovision
09-18-08, 07:27 AM
Actually, the little known secret is that Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy have been available in HD on the local OTA channel 38.1 (WSBK-DT, strong signal in Providence), tune in at 7 pm and watch Vanna, Pat, and Alex in all their glory :)

Does anyone know why these shows are not shown in HD in the Providence Market?

1. Jeopardy
2. Wheel of Fortune
3. Oprah
4. Dr. Phil
5. Inside
6. ET

All of these are shown in HD in the Boston Market. Also, the worst part is that 1,2,5,6 label their logo with the HD right under the name. Is this simply a lack of technology or someone is switching the feed to HD?

scottder
09-18-08, 08:35 PM
Looks like MOJO HD may be going away soon. That will make some 'room' as well.

toenail
09-18-08, 08:40 PM
Does anyone know why these shows are not shown in HD in the Providence Market?

1. Jeopardy
2. Wheel of Fortune
3. Oprah
4. Dr. Phil
5. Inside
6. ET

All of these are shown in HD in the Boston Market. Also, the worst part is that 1,2,5,6 label their logo with the HD right under the name. Is this simply a lack of technology or someone is switching the feed to HD?

If memory serves, lack of digital storage space at the local affiliate.

toenail
09-18-08, 08:42 PM
Actually, the little known secret is that Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy have been available in HD on the local OTA channel 38.1 (WSBK-DT, strong signal in Providence), tune in at 7 pm and watch Vanna, Pat, and Alex in all their glory :)

It's funny you mention that. When I recently adjusted my antenna to better pick up the Boston market I was excited to check out Jeopardy in HD on 38-1, only to find that it was being shown in SD not HD. This was one day last week. Have not checked it since.

Trip in VA
09-18-08, 09:43 PM
Someone from WSBK posts in the Boston thread every so often. Sometimes they have equipment problems and he apologizes when Wheel and Jeopardy aren't in HD. Check that thread.

- Trip

RYankowitz
09-18-08, 10:01 PM
Someone from WSBK posts in the Boston thread every so often. Sometimes they have equipment problems and he apologizes when Wheel and Jeopardy aren't in HD. Check that thread.

- Trip
That would be me, and yes, I do apologize for the difficulties we've had the past few weeks. The new season brought a slew of syndicated HD programs along with new methods of recording them. We went through a trying infancy while we, to be honest, got our act together.

I think we're over the hump, so problems should come much less often.

dferr
09-19-08, 12:45 PM
So, I got the FiOS install yesterday.

I forget who was desiring the BigTen Network in HD on Cox, but FiOS has it and ESPNU.

However, no darn Disney HD or Toon Disney HD despite what a channel guide on their site shows.

Another major plus is on the pay channels. HBO, Showtime, etc. they all have mulitple HD channels instead of Cox's paltry single HBO HD.

RoyGBiv
09-19-08, 01:23 PM
That would be me, and yes, I do apologize for the difficulties we've had the past few weeks. The new season brought a slew of syndicated HD programs along with new methods of recording them. We went through a trying infancy while we, to be honest, got our act together.

I think we're over the hump, so problems should come much less often.

Thanks for the info, Bob. I am glad to hear that things are better.

SMK

toenail
09-19-08, 08:56 PM
That would be me, and yes, I do apologize for the difficulties we've had the past few weeks. The new season brought a slew of syndicated HD programs along with new methods of recording them. We went through a trying infancy while we, to be honest, got our act together.

I think we're over the hump, so problems should come much less often.

Nice to see someone of your status keeping us informed. Thanks for the heads-up and the honesty.

mppy129
09-20-08, 09:43 PM
It's funny you mention that. When I recently adjusted my antenna to better pick up the Boston market I was excited to check out Jeopardy in HD on 38-1, only to find that it was being shown in SD not HD. This was one day last week. Have not checked it since.

I also have my tiny 20$ antenna set up to receive all the Boston channels. I'm looking into buying a TERK which I heard can sometimes pick up a channel 60+ miles away. I am making it my mission to pick up WZMY. I probably have a small chance seeing as it is all the way up in Derry, NH. It makes me mad to realize that I don't have it because good ol' WNAC is my MY TV affiliate. Anyway... does anyone besides me have immense trouble pulling in WSBE?

toenail
09-20-08, 10:05 PM
I also have my tiny 20$ antenna set up to receive all the Boston channels. I'm looking into buying a TERK which I heard can sometimes pick up a channel 60+ miles away. I am making it my mission to pick up WZMY. I probably have a small chance seeing as it is all the way up in Derry, NH. It makes me mad to realize that I don't have it because good ol' WNAC is my MY TV affiliate. Anyway... does anyone besides me have immense trouble pulling in WSBE?

WSBE comes in fine for me, 36, 36-1 and 36-2. Do some homework regarding a new antenna before you make a purchase. It's not often I hear "TERK" and "60+ miles away" in the same sentence.

toenail
09-20-08, 10:09 PM
Does everybody else get the audio drop-outs on ABC6 WLNE 6-1 over-the-air still? I used to get them a few years back then didn't watch ABC for a bit. Now I'm watching much more frequently and the frequency and duration of the drop-outs is really annoying. PQ is fine, just audio that has the issue. 5-1 out of Boston doesn't seem to have the same issue.

steve125
09-21-08, 01:36 PM
Does anyone know if channel 10, WJAR, is every going to broadcast the Retro Network on 10.3, as they had announced back in the early spring?

Next Month (Oct 08) on 10.3. From what I read online they had some tech issues.

steve125
09-21-08, 01:42 PM
Does anyone know why these shows are not shown in HD in the Providence Market?

1. Jeopardy
2. Wheel of Fortune
3. Oprah
4. Dr. Phil
5. Inside
6. ET

All of these are shown in HD in the Boston Market. Also, the worst part is that 1,2,5,6 label their logo with the HD right under the name. Is this simply a lack of technology or someone is switching the feed to HD?

Poor planning and lack of investment into RI stations.

dferr
09-21-08, 05:05 PM
Anyone know what's up with the FiOS channel rollout that is listed as available August 2008 on their site, but is still not actually available?

Ph8te
09-21-08, 06:32 PM
Anyone know what's up with the FiOS channel rollout that is listed as available August 2008 on their site, but is still not actually available?

Youll have to be specific with channels that you are looking for that are not launched yet. From what I know there are only ~13 missing channels from the ~100 total that they offer....The rest might be getting launched in early Oct.

dferr
09-21-08, 07:54 PM
Youll have to be specific with channels that you are looking for that are not launched yet. From what I know there are only ~13 missing channels from the ~100 total that they offer....The rest might be getting launched in early Oct.

When you view the full RI guide dated August 2008 at here (http://www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR/rdonlyres/15F10949-C866-4B0D-A969-4A14CC6BF5F7/0/RI_PF_82108.pdf) you see them listed, but when you enter in your local zip code (http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/channel+lineup/channel+lineup.htm)they are missing. I just verified each one is NOT present.



The 15 channels are:
FX HD
Superstation - WGN HD
ESPNews HD
Speed Channel HD
Fox Business Network HD
Fox News HD
Bio HD
QVC HD
Planet Green HD
Travel Channel HD
MOJO HD
ABC Family HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD

Of course, ESPNU HD is present and not listed in the August 2008 guide either.

Ph8te
09-22-08, 09:08 AM
When you view the full RI guide dated August 2008 at here (http://www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR/rdonlyres/15F10949-C866-4B0D-A969-4A14CC6BF5F7/0/RI_PF_82108.pdf) you see them listed, but when you enter in your local zip code (http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/channel+lineup/channel+lineup.htm)they are missing. I just verified each one is NOT present.



The 15 channels are:
FX HD
Superstation - WGN HD
ESPNews HD
Speed Channel HD
Fox Business Network HD
Fox News HD
Bio HD
QVC HD
Planet Green HD
Travel Channel HD
MOJO HD
ABC Family HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD

Of course, ESPNU HD is present and not listed in the August 2008 guide either.

That looks about right for the missing channels. From what I hear, look for them sometime in Oct. along with the IMG upgrade to 1.6. These channels will bring New Engalnd to the "full" ~100 HD channels available (matching the NY market). New England was one of the lucky ones to get the 8x channels available for HD, some markets got much less.

MOJO however, will not be a channel at all, rumors are that it will cease broadcasting in Oct for all cable carriers. It VOD selection, but the channel will no longer be "live".

jakemgold
09-22-08, 10:16 AM
Looks like MOJO HD may be going away soon. That will make some 'room' as well.

Not that I care all that much about MOJO, but where did you hear that?

ATPTourFan
09-22-08, 12:07 PM
Not that I care all that much about MOJO, but where did you hear that?

Yeah, I'd be disappointed that Three Sheets won't be available, unless they do go to a full On-Demand format.

Ph8te
09-22-08, 02:07 PM
Not that I care all that much about MOJO, but where did you hear that?

Its over at dsreports, I think as well as the Mojo Forums...

You can also check here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1067879

Yeah, I'd be disappointed that Three Sheets won't be available, unless they do go to a full On-Demand format.

Id be dissapointed for the same reasons....

mppy129
09-22-08, 05:57 PM
OK I think I am hallucinating but does anyone think FOX Providence and WPRI PQ has suddenly gotten better? The HD version of both channels don't look as dull as they usually do and the contrast and saturation problem seems to have lessened. I really don't think I'm hallucinating because they just added commercials about what is coming on later tonight. They must have revamped their channel. However WNAC is currently showing Insider in SD so we know if they did improve it wasn't by much.

alg2468
09-23-08, 01:17 PM
WZMY-TV 50 transmits from Hudson, NH, north of Derry, NH. Its analog transmitter is directional facing north - I used to live north of Boston, MA and it was very snowy even with an outdoor antenna. Also, their digital power is only 7 kw and residents only 10 miles away claim they cannot get the station. So it's unlikely you'll ever get the station south of Boston, but try it out and you just may get it.

amq6240
09-28-08, 10:48 PM
Not that I care all that much about MOJO, but where did you hear that?


Hey all - InDEMAND has indeed announced that they're ceasing operations of MOJO (and MOJO HD) by December. With this, we are launching 2 new HD channels: Lifetime Movies HD will be on ch. 764 and Hallmark Movies HD will be on ch. 765, effective Oct. 29.

We're also adding Too Much For TV (TMFTV) as an Subscription-based VOD service that same day.

dferr
10-02-08, 12:30 PM
Seems FiOS in RI received all the new channels listed previously except Mojo (I assume because it is dying), plus I noticed the MGM Channel as well.

Ph8te
10-02-08, 08:53 PM
Seems FiOS in RI received all the new channels listed previously except Mojo (I assume because it is dying), plus I noticed the MGM Channel as well.

DO you mean the 15 listed above (previously missing from the 100?), From reading dslreports RI might get the "rest" of the 100 sometime this month when the upgrade to IMG 1.6x is pushed to MA\RI area(VHO6).....FOr me its very tempting to make the move....Especially since one of the channels that kept me at Cox was Mojo. Now that its not going to be around, going to have to make some decisions. I really like the FIOS Multi-room HDDVR, where with IMG 1.6 you can stream HD programs recorded on the DVR to the HD boxes (and the almost 100HD channels dont hurt either ;) ).....

COx you are quickly falling behind, and as of now (even with the 4-6 channels you will be adding) will be FAR behind FIOS in terms of HD offerings (most important to me). Time to step it up :)...

DM2006RI
10-03-08, 10:42 AM
OK I think I am hallucinating but does anyone think FOX Providence and WPRI PQ has suddenly gotten better? The HD version of both channels don't look as dull as they usually do and the contrast and saturation problem seems to have lessened. I really don't think I'm hallucinating because they just added commercials about what is coming on later tonight. They must have revamped their channel. However WNAC is currently showing Insider in SD so we know if they did improve it wasn't by much.

I haven't realized any differences myself. The one Providence channel that is in dire need of "revamping" is WLNE channel 6...the sound is atrocious and the picture quality looks smoky and less detailed than Channel 5. Of all the Boston/Providence comparisons you can make the discrepancies between 5 and 6 are the most jarring by a longshot IMO.

dferr
10-03-08, 12:17 PM
DO you mean the 15 listed above (previously missing from the 100?), From reading dslreports RI might get the "rest" of the 100 sometime this month when the upgrade to IMG 1.6x is pushed to MA\RI area(VHO6).....FOr me its very tempting to make the move....Especially since one of the channels that kept me at Cox was Mojo. Now that its not going to be around, going to have to make some decisions. I really like the FIOS Multi-room HDDVR, where with IMG 1.6 you can stream HD programs recorded on the DVR to the HD boxes (and the almost 100HD channels dont hurt either ;) ).....

COx you are quickly falling behind, and as of now (even with the 4-6 channels you will be adding) will be FAR behind FIOS in terms of HD offerings (most important to me). Time to step it up :)...

Yes. The following are now active with FiOS as of 10/2/08 (though I haven't gone the channel guide 100% to find out if there are any other surprises like the MGM Channel).

FX HD
Superstation - WGN HD
ESPNews HD
Speed Channel HD
Fox Business Network HD
Fox News HD
Bio HD
QVC HD
Planet Green HD
Travel Channel HD
MGM Channel HD
ABC Family HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD

Ph8te
10-03-08, 08:53 PM
Yes. The following are now active with FiOS as of 10/2/08 (though I haven't gone the channel guide 100% to find out if there are any other surprises like the MGM Channel).

FX HD
Superstation - WGN HD
ESPNews HD
Speed Channel HD
Fox Business Network HD
Fox News HD
Bio HD
QVC HD
Planet Green HD
Travel Channel HD
MGM Channel HD
ABC Family HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD

Thanks after I posted that I went to dslreports and saw the confirmation....This is seriously making me thinking of switching to FIOS with 102HD channels available they are the landine leader here....Even with the additions on the 10th Cox will be seriously behind FIOS....I guess they underestimated FIOS HD capabilites as they used to liketo be the number 1 HD provider.......

Going to wait unti at least the 9th though as I want to oder an HD box and Multi Room DVR without a SD Box.....

GoSlow2GoFast
10-03-08, 09:13 PM
Thanks after I posted that I went to dslreports and saw the confirmation....This is seriously making me thinking of switching to FIOS with 102HD channels available they are the landine leader here....Even with the additions on the 10th Cox will be seriously behind FIOS....I guess they underestimated FIOS HD capabilites as they used to liketo be the number 1 HD provider.......

Going to wait unti at least the 9th though as I want to oder an HD box and Multi Room DVR without a SD Box.....I have to agree on maybe time to switch, FIOS is kicking COX's butt in the HD channel arena, and from what I hear offers better picture quality to boot.

~gs2gf

Chrissi1va
10-04-08, 10:25 PM
So this isn't the best thread to post this question to but it's the only one that I ever check so here it goes.

I've been looking around the internet for the best interactive program guide. Which one do you guys/gals think is the best? I was on the macrovision site and it seems like the TV Guide one is pretty nice but it has a lot of menus to navigate through. I also like the "catch up" function that allows you to watch internet streamed replays from networks (if available). It also looks to be full screen HD and I may like the "my" TV Guide setup but it doesn't look like it would be for everyone. Personally, I don't even use favorites on this crappy passport software so maybe something along the lines of "my" TV Guide would change my viewing habits.

I've had a Tivo in the past and I did like the way their system was setup. I really liked how it handled season passes. The passport is terrible at recording an entire series because it constantly records the same episodes over and over again unless its set to first runs only. Tivo would record first runs and old episodes only once if it was already saved to the HDD. I liked to have a bunch of old episodes of the Simpsons etc.

Finally, how difficult/feasible is it for Cox to change the IPG? Is there any info out there about the possible switch to Tivo or TV Guide that I heard rumors about a while ago? Fios has TV Guide I believe and it may be yet another reason I will consider switching later this month when my 1 year bundle contract runs out.

-Chris

steve125
10-05-08, 09:37 AM
For those looking to save some coin by going free OTA only checkout this sweet little Roku VOD box now offered by Netflix. Netflix just signed a deal with Starz too so now you have access to Starz VOD at no extra cost with the box. It's HD ready too! Connects by Wifi or Ethernet to your INTERNET connection. Really sweet! Took me 5 min to be up and running.

Unlimited VOD and DVD rentals by mail for $8.95 mo. Add the no subscription OTA DTVPal DVR when it comes out next month and save without giving up having a DVR.

If your goal is to save money and you don't care about 100 HD channels that only play 20% actual HD programming or upscale everything then you'll appreciate this and the $100 more in YOUR pocket next month.


http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices?tb=details

Steve

sbmurphy
10-06-08, 01:00 PM
So this isn't the best thread to post this question to but it's the only one that I ever check so here it goes.

I've been looking around the internet for the best interactive program guide. Which one do you guys/gals think is the best? I was on the macrovision site and it seems like the TV Guide one is pretty nice but it has a lot of menus to navigate through. I also like the "catch up" function that allows you to watch internet streamed replays from networks (if available). It also looks to be full screen HD and I may like the "my" TV Guide setup but it doesn't look like it would be for everyone. Personally, I don't even use favorites on this crappy passport software so maybe something along the lines of "my" TV Guide would change my viewing habits.

I've had a Tivo in the past and I did like the way their system was setup. I really liked how it handled season passes. The passport is terrible at recording an entire series because it constantly records the same episodes over and over again unless its set to first runs only. Tivo would record first runs and old episodes only once if it was already saved to the HDD. I liked to have a bunch of old episodes of the Simpsons etc.

Finally, how difficult/feasible is it for Cox to change the IPG? Is there any info out there about the possible switch to Tivo or TV Guide that I heard rumors about a while ago? Fios has TV Guide I believe and it may be yet another reason I will consider switching later this month when my 1 year bundle contract runs out.

-Chris

I was wondering the samething I have asked cox and never get the answer I want. From what I can understand is the guide they have know is only compatable with there serevices such as caller ID on screen,the weather, the games, ect in other cox systems the guide lets you check your e-mail pay your cox tv and phone bill through the interactive guide. RI might see it it might not but I can not get an answers either. They tell me Tivio was only working with then as supporting cable tv cards for the tivio set-top box but if anyone knows anything feel free to corect me. I really want the Militi Room DVR which no one seems to know about

mppy129
10-07-08, 01:56 PM
It appears WPRI has put itself out of their misery! (At least at this moment) It appears WPRI has NO SIGNAL. Not OTA and Comcast currently has No signal at this time either. I wonder how long this will last.

DM2006RI
10-07-08, 03:18 PM
It appears WPRI has put itself out of their misery! (At least at this moment) It appears WPRI has NO SIGNAL. Not OTA and Comcast currently has No signal at this time either. I wonder how long this will last.

No problems here at 3pm (local time) on OTA or Directv.

Hopefully they've improved whatever it is has been plaguing their signal for the last few weeks.

Joe3
10-07-08, 04:15 PM
It appears WPRI has put itself out of their misery! (At least at this moment) It appears WPRI has NO SIGNAL. Not OTA and Comcast currently has No signal at this time either. I wonder how long this will last.

Don't you mean they put us out of our misery?

WBZ it.

cutterhut
10-07-08, 05:40 PM
Anybody had the FIOS guys come door to door? I had a pair come by this afternoon saying they could get me a better deal than I could get online, but I had to sign up then. He went over everything verbally but wouldn't leave me with a piece of paper with the numbers, or let me look at the clipboard carefully that had all the prices on it. Sounded like it was the same as the promotional prices they offer but he said it was not temporary and the DVR and router were free.

Anybody dealt with these guys, the price seems decent - its better than what I pay for COX's fastest internet, Vonage and basic cable. Or if people can tell me what they pay for bundled service for FIOS I'd appreciate it. I don't do the sign up now under pressure thing, and these guys were definitely going down that route, though I was pretty intrigued.

Ph8te
10-07-08, 08:41 PM
Anybody had the FIOS guys come door to door? I had a pair come by this afternoon saying they could get me a better deal than I could get online, but I had to sign up then. He went over everything verbally but wouldn't leave me with a piece of paper with the numbers, or let me look at the clipboard carefully that had all the prices on it. Sounded like it was the same as the promotional prices they offer but he said it was not temporary and the DVR and router were free.

Anybody dealt with these guys, the price seems decent - its better than what I pay for COX's fastest internet, Vonage and basic cable. Or if people can tell me what they pay for bundled service for FIOS I'd appreciate it. I don't do the sign up now under pressure thing, and these guys were definitely going down that route, though I was pretty intrigued.

we had one come by our house, but they said that we could call them back and get the same deal...TO me though it seems close if not the same as getting it online.....I was sleeping at the time so I didnt get the prices...

dferr
10-08-08, 01:05 PM
Anybody had the FIOS guys come door to door? I had a pair come by this afternoon saying they could get me a better deal than I could get online, but I had to sign up then. He went over everything verbally but wouldn't leave me with a piece of paper with the numbers, or let me look at the clipboard carefully that had all the prices on it. Sounded like it was the same as the promotional prices they offer but he said it was not temporary and the DVR and router were free.

Anybody dealt with these guys, the price seems decent - its better than what I pay for COX's fastest internet, Vonage and basic cable. Or if people can tell me what they pay for bundled service for FIOS I'd appreciate it. I don't do the sign up now under pressure thing, and these guys were definitely going down that route, though I was pretty intrigued.

I called and got $100/mo for all three services for year. I'll change after that.
I'm still waiting to see my first bill though.

miochza
10-08-08, 06:54 PM
Just got a Radioshack 1892 UFO Antenna. I'm using an indoor antenna because I'm at college (Providence College), so can't exactly mount an outdoor. So I get the main Providence digital stations: WJAR, WLNE, WPRI, WSBE, WNAC. Is this about right for an indoor antenna in the area?

mppy129
10-08-08, 07:07 PM
WNAC dropped the ball last night. WFXT showed the Debate in HD while WNAC had a glorious SD picture! Also the person above me, all you are missing is ION. Yup, that's the WHOLE Providence Market right there......

miochza
10-08-08, 09:21 PM
Does WPRI suck out of the local HD stations? I received The Price is Right this morning which was beautiful, but now I'm not getting any primetime HD broadcasts. I'm getting a signal strength of about 80% so it can't be the reception on my end... I really hope they broadcast in HD come football sunday...

EDIT: Nevermind, someone must have forgot to flip the switch, getting Criminal Minds in HD.

Ph8te
10-08-08, 11:50 PM
Does WPRI suck out of the local HD stations? I received The Price is Right this morning which was beautiful, but now I'm not getting any primetime HD broadcasts. I'm getting a signal strength of about 80% so it can't be the reception on my end... I really hope they broadcast in HD come football sunday...

EDIT: Nevermind, someone must have forgot to flip the switch, getting Criminal Minds in HD.

The RI market much like many of the people who live here are stuck in the "past" ;) :p.....The stations might not have the money to make the switch to HD News and or Programming...Get used to it, WJAR seems to be the most consistent though as far as Primetime HD goes though, I haven't noticed many errors on their side as far as forgetting to "flip the switch"....I know last year they did a few times for the office, but nothing insane...

And yes my prior comment about people in RI was a joke :)

miochza
10-09-08, 12:11 AM
Too bad more stations can't be more consistent. But as long as they get it right for most of the primetime shows I watch and NFL football I'm set. When I was playing around/checking out my new HD capability, I was very impressed by the picture. Especially Knight Rider, for some reason. I coudn't even detect any grain. :eek: Also, I was looking at my TV's signal strength meter, what is usually the cutoff for HD? I'm >75 on all stations, just wondering.

And no offense taken from your RI joke, I'm only here for school. From CT originally (I'm sure there are plenty of CT jokes :D )

Ph8te
10-10-08, 01:09 AM
Too bad more stations can't be more consistent. But as long as they get it right for most of the primetime shows I watch and NFL football I'm set. When I was playing around/checking out my new HD capability, I was very impressed by the picture. Especially Knight Rider, for some reason. I coudn't even detect any grain. :eek: Also, I was looking at my TV's signal strength meter, what is usually the cutoff for HD? I'm >75 on all stations, just wondering.

And no offense taken from your RI joke, I'm only here for school. From CT originally (I'm sure there are plenty of CT jokes :D )

Same here...I moved to RI for school, and never left...I was sucked into the vacuum...LOL!!!!!!!.....In CT I grew up (for the most part) in the NW corner of the state (Litchfield County).....So yes I could make a few CT jokes as well ;)......

As far as the HD goes, I havent seen any errors this season yet, so it looks like they are getting better at flipping the switch on time...The most annoying thing though is when the local news "preview" breaks into a shows preview that is in HD (the news preview is in SD)...I HATE that, and they always do it after the commercial for the show starts....

sbmurphy
10-11-08, 05:35 PM
when is cox getting the tivo interface
to the dvr anyone know anything

igneous
10-12-08, 09:32 PM
I thought we were supposed to get amc on the 10th? Im not seeing it

jakemgold
10-13-08, 08:16 PM
I thought we were supposed to get amc on the 10th? Im not seeing it

This is the second time we've been told AMC is getting added only to find it not making the cut...

The PDF channel listing on Cox's website even includes the forthcoming channels on 10/29, but no mention of AMC HD.

What's the story, Amy? Are we really ever going to see this channel?

scottder
10-13-08, 09:32 PM
This is the second time we've been told AMC is getting added only to find it not making the cut...

The PDF channel listing on Cox's website even includes the forthcoming channels on 10/29, but no mention of AMC HD.

What's the story, Amy? Are we really ever going to see this channel?

What channels are getting added on 10/29?

Ph8te
10-13-08, 10:33 PM
This is the second time we've been told AMC is getting added only to find it not making the cut...

The PDF channel listing on Cox's website even includes the forthcoming channels on 10/29, but no mention of AMC HD.

What's the story, Amy? Are we really ever going to see this channel?

I am guessing they are probaby having contract issues or something simillar...

Ph8te
10-13-08, 10:41 PM
What channels are getting added on 10/29?

Lifetime Movies HD
Halmark Movies HD

scottder
10-13-08, 10:48 PM
Lifetime Movies HD
Halmark Movies HD


Ah, thanks. Shame Comedy Central was postponed until December.

igneous
10-14-08, 11:22 AM
Lifetime Movies HD
Halmark Movies HD

I understand people will like that, but I can't think of two more boring channels to get in HD. Way to keep up with verizon cox:mad:

amq6240
10-17-08, 03:02 PM
This is the second time we've been told AMC is getting added only to find it not making the cut...

The PDF channel listing on Cox's website even includes the forthcoming channels on 10/29, but no mention of AMC HD.

What's the story, Amy? Are we really ever going to see this channel?

Wow - I'm honored that you're calling me out by my name ;)

We were optimistic we would have a carriage deal for AMC HD by this month but, alas, we are still in negotiations for the rights to carry that channel. As for Comedy Central HD, Viacom had some last minute technical issues which prevented their successful launch of that channel. We do expect to have it by the end of this year, as you noted from our Web site.

sbmurphy
10-19-08, 05:32 PM
HI Amy
are we ever going to get the Weather Channel in HDTV
I have been waiting forever how about slouth channel
or tivio or better yet the REAL TVGUIDE interactive guide
like Fios the cox guide is lame the TVGIUDE interactive guide
sends programing message to the box is cox ever going to do this as well
as paying your bill through the box

mppy129
10-23-08, 08:03 PM
I know I posted a comment about this about a month ago but now it really is true. WPRI looks GOOD. The picture is CLEAR not all washed out and dark. I tuned into Jeopardy, and while it was in SD the picture was better than WSBK-DT when they are showing SD. Whoa, OK is Eyewitness news going HD? The lottery numbers just dragged on the button under Survivor and it was in HD.

EDIT: It appears they have ended partnership with WorldNow and are partnered with Newscorp. They have relaunched their website. WNAC still looks the same though. Hopefully that changes.

EDIT OF AN EDIT: Mark Zinni has confirmed it. "WPRI's chief engineer was here all night working on a big transition that you'll notice if you watch in HD.You've already been watching CBS network programming in high definition, but now you can watch WPRI's syndicated shows ("Wheel of Fortune," "Jeopardy", etc.) in HD - as long as the show provides a high definition feed. Confused? Well, simply put, it required some technical change here at the station which was completed overnight.

So enjoy Vanna in HD! Can you believe she's 51?

By the way, our news is not in HD yet... Hopefully soon."

steve125
10-24-08, 10:13 AM
Anyone else notice audio issues with 10.1 during SD programming? Sounds like something is out of polarity. Low and minor cracking. Observed from 2 independent points OTA.

Eurovision
10-24-08, 06:22 PM
Anyone else notice audio issues with 10.1 during SD programming? Sounds like something is out of polarity. Low and minor cracking. Observed from 2 independent points OTA.

Happens every morning at 10 when HD Today Show switches to Regis & Kelly... that whole hour crackles for all the wrong reasons :)

igneous
10-28-08, 09:53 PM
I know I posted a comment about this about a month ago but now it really is true. WPRI looks GOOD. The picture is CLEAR not all washed out and dark. I tuned into Jeopardy, and while it was in SD the picture was better than WSBK-DT when they are showing SD. Whoa, OK is Eyewitness news going HD? The lottery numbers just dragged on the button under Survivor and it was in HD.

EDIT: It appears they have ended partnership with WorldNow and are partnered with Newscorp. They have relaunched their website. WNAC still looks the same though. Hopefully that changes.

EDIT OF AN EDIT: Mark Zinni has confirmed it. "WPRI's chief engineer was here all night working on a big transition that you'll notice if you watch in HD.You've already been watching CBS network programming in high definition, but now you can watch WPRI's syndicated shows ("Wheel of Fortune," "Jeopardy", etc.) in HD - as long as the show provides a high definition feed. Confused? Well, simply put, it required some technical change here at the station which was completed overnight.

So enjoy Vanna in HD! Can you believe she's 51?

By the way, our news is not in HD yet... Hopefully soon."
I checked wheel of fortune a couple times this week and didnt see it in hd:confused:

jakemgold
10-29-08, 10:58 AM
I checked wheel of fortune a couple times this week and didnt see it in hd:confused:

Likewise. My girlfriend watches Jeopardy and said it definately wasn't being broadcast in HD. Disappointing bad information.

wingnutdad620
10-29-08, 12:37 PM
I've been noticing a lot of cut-outs on both sd and hd channels.

Fox had typically been good for that during American Idol. ABC6 is now pretty good at cutting out during DWTS.

Ph8te
10-29-08, 08:28 PM
JUst a little FYI for those that care (I am not one of them) COx added Lifetime Movie Network HD and the Hallmark Movie HD channels today I believe......

igneous
10-29-08, 10:52 PM
JUst a little FYI for those that care (I am not one of them) COx added Lifetime Movie Network HD and the Hallmark Movie HD channels today I believe......
yup, more high quality interesting HD stations :(

DM2006RI
10-30-08, 11:34 AM
I know I posted a comment about this about a month ago but now it really is true. WPRI looks GOOD. The picture is CLEAR not all washed out and dark. I tuned into Jeopardy, and while it was in SD the picture was better than WSBK-DT when they are showing SD. Whoa, OK is Eyewitness news going HD? The lottery numbers just dragged on the button under Survivor and it was in HD.

The SD (or I guess I should say "locally based content"?) material is what looks different, I don't watch their news but did happen to turn it on and you're right, the SD content is an appreciably crisper and stronger image with the news ticker rolling in "HD" across the full bottom of the frame. HD wise (or the network based HD programming to be specific), I don't see any difference and always thought their PQ was just fine, so I'm guessing this is mostly an enhancement of their local and syndicated programming.

Channel 6 definitely needs the most improvement though -- even their HD night-time content is a joke compared to Channel 5 Boston.

mppy129
10-30-08, 10:16 PM
WNAC has now gotten the same technical improvement as WPRI.

Yeah, ABC6 is unwatchable in my opinion. Thank god Comcast hasn't dropped WCVB-DT YET.

lobrow
11-03-08, 01:24 PM
I haven't gotten a signal for WNAC in several days. I got my converter box a couple of months ago and it had been working just fine. Can I expect this to be remedied or am I s.o.l.?

ctdish
11-03-08, 05:24 PM
If you haven't allready, try doing a rescan.
John

amq6240
11-04-08, 04:08 PM
This is the second time we've been told AMC is getting added only to find it not making the cut...

The PDF channel listing on Cox's website even includes the forthcoming channels on 10/29, but no mention of AMC HD.

What's the story, Amy? Are we really ever going to see this channel?

Great news all! We're adding AMC HD to our lineup tomorrow. Check it out on channel 750.

igneous
11-04-08, 04:35 PM
Great news all! We're adding AMC HD to our lineup tomorrow. Check it out on channel 750.

awesome, thanks for letting us know:)

DM2006RI
11-04-08, 10:28 PM
WNAC has now gotten the same technical improvement as WPRI.

Yeah, ABC6 is unwatchable in my opinion. Thank god Comcast hasn't dropped WCVB-DT YET.

In terms of election coverage 12 was #1 in RI. HD ticker at the bottom of the screen with local results looked GREAT. Ditto on Channel 64.

Channel 10 might still be tops in some of the ratings but they looked like a dinosaur in terms of HD coverage of this election :)

jakemgold
11-05-08, 11:35 AM
Great news all! We're adding AMC HD to our lineup tomorrow. Check it out on channel 750.

Nice.

I also see in my bill that Cox is separating Golf Channel HD into a dedicated channel (separate from Versus HD) in early December. I'm assuming we're going to get Comedy Central HD when it launches in December.

Can we expect any other additions before the end of the year... ?

amq6240
11-05-08, 03:50 PM
Nice.

I also see in my bill that Cox is separating Golf Channel HD into a dedicated channel (separate from Versus HD) in early December. I'm assuming we're going to get Comedy Central HD when it launches in December.

Can we expect any other additions before the end of the year... ?

As soon as I know, you all will know!

Ph8te
11-06-08, 02:12 AM
Nice.

I also see in my bill that Cox is separating Golf Channel HD into a dedicated channel (separate from Versus HD) in early December. I'm assuming we're going to get Comedy Central HD when it launches in December.

Can we expect any other additions before the end of the year... ?

jake, its not Cox that is seperating the channels, its Versus.....They are going to be two channels everywhere that carries them....

jakemgold
11-06-08, 10:32 AM
jake, its not Cox that is seperating the channels, its Versus.....They are going to be two channels everywhere that carries them....

Right, and I don't even watch either channel, but I suppose Cox (or another carrier) could just keep one...

amq6240
11-06-08, 09:17 PM
Right, and I don't even watch either channel, but I suppose Cox (or another carrier) could just keep one...

Splitting out Versus and Golf will not impact our ability to carry Comedy. We have the agreement in place. Unfortunately the programmer experienced technical difficulties at the last minute which delayed their own launch. Once they're ready, we're ready.

Ph8te
11-06-08, 10:10 PM
Right, and I don't even watch either channel, but I suppose Cox (or another carrier) could just keep one...

This is probably not possible as the carriage agreement probably requires both and not just one (this is a guess)...Also, by dropping one over the other you loose that viewership, beleive me there are probably more people then you think that will watch both channels...I know I watch Versus for the sporting events that come on golf, MMA, ect....I personally dont mind the split as I dont think it will impact future addidtions to Cox. This split has been known for some time know (at least a year I think) so any plans would (or should) have included the split channels...

On another note, I didnt know what I was missing with AMC HD, there have been some real good movies (imo) on there lately.

Joe3
11-07-08, 02:56 PM
On another note, I didnt know what I was missing with AMC HD, there have been some real good movies (imo) on there lately.

Now that some of us can finally see the channel on a screen bigger that 42" its nothing like it was when it was commercial free. Big on action flicks and too many commercials.

It would be nice to see MoJo replaced by the Mark Cuban Movie Channel, but I guess that what FIOS is all about.

Ph8te
11-07-08, 07:21 PM
Now that some of us can finally see the channel on a screen bigger that 42" its nothing like it was when it was commercial free. Big on action flicks and too many commercials.

It would be nice to see MoJo replaced by the Mark Cuban Movie Channel, but I guess that what FIOS is all about.

Well both HDnets are some of the most requestede channels that I see on these boards and yes people would pay for them. IMO I think Cox is trying to continue the "free" HD and doesnt want to add these channels if people have to pay extra for them....Personally I think it would be worth $5 for the channels, but we have been saying this for a long time now.

Yeah the commercials are annoying, but at least they change the movies up here and there, looks like DIrty Harry fans get their "hit" this weekend ;)....

mppy129
11-09-08, 12:23 AM
It seems WPRI and WNAC are beginning to get their act together. Friday night WNAC showed The Insider in HD! As I write this, WPRI is showing CSI:NY in HD as well! I applaud WPRI and WNAC for being the first stations in the Providence-New Bedford DMA to show HD syndication.

toenail
11-10-08, 11:24 AM
I noticed Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HD finally on WPRI

DM2006RI
11-10-08, 01:22 PM
It seems WPRI and WNAC are beginning to get their act together. Friday night WNAC showed The Insider in HD! As I write this, WPRI is showing CSI:NY in HD as well! I applaud WPRI and WNAC for being the first stations in the Providence-New Bedford DMA to show HD syndication.

They're not the first in this market to show HD syndication: WLWC 28 has been showing EVERYONE LOVES RAYMOND in HD for months now, along with the Saturday ACC football games.

Still I'm glad to see them getting their act together too. Now, if only ABC 6 could improve their programming...

igneous
11-10-08, 10:46 PM
Ive been getting a lot of 2-3 second audio drops on fox HD shows lately :(

DM2006RI
11-10-08, 10:47 PM
Ive been getting a lot of 2-3 second audio drops on fox HD shows lately :(

Same here...has to be an issue with Fox 64.

richof
11-11-08, 08:57 PM
Can anyone confirm for me the QAM frequencies for those few channels that COX New England is allowing through in the clear?

Ph8te
11-11-08, 11:22 PM
Ive been getting a lot of 2-3 second audio drops on fox HD shows lately :(

Glad to see I am no the only one noticing it. It comes on on recorded programs as well and is not only on FOx64, bot across the board......

arnjohn
11-12-08, 01:50 PM
MY Sony recorder gives me these frequencies. I don't know why it shows two channels on the same frequncy. 126-1 WPRI 807 MHZ 126-3 WNAC 807 MHZ 128-4 WGBH 819 MHZ 132-1 WJAR 843 MHZ 132-6 WLNE 843 MHZ 133-1 WLWC 849 MHZ. I also get WJAR weather channel on 102-4 663MHZ.

RPMcCormick
11-12-08, 02:13 PM
MY Sony recorder gives me these frequencies. I don't know why it shows two channels on the same frequncy. 126-1 WPRI 807 MHZ 126-3 WNAC 807 MHZ 128-4 WGBH 819 MHZ 132-1 WJAR 843 MHZ 132-6 WLNE 843 MHZ 133-1 WHPX 849 MHZThe clear QAM on cable systems display channel numbers similar to the way DTV (ATSC) off air works: NNN-XX where NNN is the channel number and the XX is a sub channel or program stream. In the info you posted WPRI and WNAC are using the same RF channel (126 = 807 MHz). Similarly WJAR and WLNE are being combined in RF channel 132. A 256QAM channel on a cable system can easily handle a pair of HD DTV stations or quite a few SD stations (all depending on the station's bit rates). Hope that helps!

igneous
11-12-08, 07:30 PM
I havent been able to pick up NBC or ABC over qam in a long time on my panasonic plasma :(

arnjohn
11-12-08, 07:58 PM
You must have an amplifier or splitter that doesn't pass throu frequencies as high as 843 MHZ. Older splitters only rated to 800 MHZ.

igneous
11-13-08, 08:44 AM
You must have an amplifier or splitter that doesn't pass throu frequencies as high as 843 MHZ. Older splitters only rated to 800 MHZ.

there is a vizio and westinghouse tv down the line from that splitter that BOTH get all the qam HD stations. From what Ive read panny plasmas just dont have a great qam tuner.

steve125
11-15-08, 02:30 PM
Same here...has to be an issue with Fox 64.

Same here. It's happening on the analog 64 also. Something is causing clipping in the new gear.

wingnutdad620
11-17-08, 04:47 PM
Same here. It's happening on the analog 64 also. Something is causing clipping in the new gear.

what is causing the audio drop out? I'm noticing it on several channels. I'm connected with Cox. It has happened this week on abc6 and last night while watching a DVR'ed show from HBO HD.

I've also noticed that my converter box will not keep the audio output to PCM and keeps reverting back to Dolby.

Bad box? Bad cable company? I'm ready to try an OTA antenna and save some $$ on cable.

richof
11-17-08, 05:57 PM
I don't know about the dropouts, but I have had similar problems with my Cox provided Motorola box not being able to keep Audio settings. I hard reboot of the box by unplugging and plugging back in solves the issue. In my case, if I have two shows scheduled to record and I am on a third channel, the box throws up the message for me to choose what to record. When I choose and dismiss the message, my audio settings are blown and cannot be reset in the menus. I reboot is the only way to resolve the problem. Hope this helps you.

wingnutdad620
11-17-08, 11:09 PM
I don't know about the dropouts, but I have had similar problems with my Cox provided Motorola box not being able to keep Audio settings. I hard reboot of the box by unplugging and plugging back in solves the issue. In my case, if I have two shows scheduled to record and I am on a third channel, the box throws up the message for me to choose what to record. When I choose and dismiss the message, my audio settings are blown and cannot be reset in the menus. I reboot is the only way to resolve the problem. Hope this helps you.

Thanks, I'll give it a try tomorrow night.

bcushman
11-18-08, 12:55 PM
Just received this reply from WSBE which I found interesting:

Yes, we are currently testing our equipment to be able to broadcast a HD signal soon. We hope to be finished with testing by the middle of December. Our plans are to up convert all of our programming to high definition and then broadcast true HD programming when it is available.

Thank you for your interest.

Sincerely,
Kathryn Larsen
Program Director
Rhode Island PBS
401-222-3636

RoyGBiv
11-18-08, 04:58 PM
This is great news. I always welcome an alternative to watching WGBH. WSBE's programming is on a different schedule. Maybe WSBE will also get the equipment to record national HD PBS programming to show it in HD, which WGBH is not currently doing.

SMK

c0v3rr1d3
11-18-08, 09:08 PM
MY Sony recorder gives me these frequencies. I don't know why it shows two channels on the same frequncy. 126-1 WPRI 807 MHZ 126-3 WNAC 807 MHZ 128-4 WGBH 819 MHZ 132-1 WJAR 843 MHZ 132-6 WLNE 843 MHZ 133-1 WLWC 849 MHZ. I also get WJAR weather channel on 102-4 663MHZ.

If you don't mind, what cable package do you have through cox. I have just the extended basic and for the life of me i cannot detect and view any clear qam channels. Did u have to add an hd package?

amq6240
11-18-08, 09:48 PM
what is causing the audio drop out? I'm noticing it on several channels. I'm connected with Cox. It has happened this week on abc6 and last night while watching a DVR'ed show from HBO HD.

I've also noticed that my converter box will not keep the audio output to PCM and keeps reverting back to Dolby.

Bad box? Bad cable company? I'm ready to try an OTA antenna and save some $$ on cable.

Hey all,

I just wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue. We're working with our vendor to ensure that a patch will be included in the next software release to fix it. ETA is early next year.

Thanks,
AQ

arnjohn
11-19-08, 11:38 AM
The channels I record on my Sony recorder are not encoded. I have not yet had Cox put a cable card in the recorder. You need to make sure any of your amplifiers or splitters can handle frequencies at least to 900 MHZ. I also get these stations on my Mitsubishi TVs without cable cards installed. You do need to have extended basic service because Cox puts an outside filter on the line which I believe won't pass frequencies above 220 MHZ.

wingnutdad620
11-19-08, 11:42 AM
Hey all,

I just wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue. We're working with our vendor to ensure that a patch will be included in the next software release to fix it. ETA is early next year.

Thanks,
AQ

What is early next year?

Unfortunately for Cox, I'll probably no longer be a subscriber by then.

c0v3rr1d3
11-19-08, 03:34 PM
The channels I record on my Sony recorder are not encoded. I have not yet had Cox put a cable card in the recorder. You need to make sure any of your amplifiers or splitters can handle frequencies at least to 900 MHZ. I also get these stations on my Mitsubishi TVs without cable cards installed. You do need to have extended basic service because Cox puts an outside filter on the line which I believe won't pass frequencies above 220 MHZ.

thx.. I have extended basic, my first 2 way splitter is a 5-1000mhz cox installed to split the line to my cable modem and then to a tv. Then i split the line for cable into a a monster cable 4 way splitter rated from 5-2000mhz. The only clear qam channel i can pick up is 102-4 663MHZ when i manually add it. All others don't come in at all even when manually adding them, or even when i send the signal directly to my tv with no splitters involved. Still can't figure it out.

Ph8te
11-21-08, 03:33 AM
Hey all,

I just wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue. We're working with our vendor to ensure that a patch will be included in the next software release to fix it. ETA is early next year.

Thanks,
AQ

AMy,

I seriously hope it comes out before then, since this is what you might describe as a "major" problem. I have audio dropouts over different channels both with live and DVRd programs. This is something that should be fixed sooner then next year IMO....

wingnutdad620
11-21-08, 08:41 AM
amy,

i seriously hope it comes out before then, since this is what you might describe as a "major" problem. I have audio dropouts over different channels both with live and dvrd programs. This is something that should be fixed sooner then next year imo....

exactly!

GoSlow2GoFast
11-21-08, 08:49 AM
AMy,

I seriously hope it comes out before then, since this is what you might describe as a "major" problem. I have audio dropouts over different channels both with live and DVRd programs. This is something that should be fixed sooner then next year IMO....
Absolutely agree, the HD performance on COX lately has not been acceptable. When FIOS is offered in my area I may have to do some comparison shopping, much as I would prefer not to.

~gs2gf

sbmurphy
11-22-08, 11:52 PM
is cox
ever getting milti room dvrs? if FIOS is ever offered in newport and i can get then depending on building managment i would switch I think cox never gives the custermers what they want such as the milti room dvr, caller id on tv,tivio interface, better program guide ect I am thinking of droping them all together

throwinsevens
11-23-08, 09:45 PM
is cox
ever getting milti room dvrs? if FIOS is ever offered in newport and i can get then depending on building managment i would switch I think cox never gives the custermers what they want such as the milti room dvr, caller id on tv,tivio interface, better program guide ect I am thinking of droping them all together

When I first got my (or rather, got my first) DVR from Cox the technician said that multi room would be coming along "within the next six months or so". That was about 3 years (and 11 boxes) ago. Last time I asked (a few months ago) multi room was still "months away" from being rolled out for Cox customers due to "high licensing costs". Whatever.

avsa242
11-26-08, 10:54 AM
I just wanted to mention, in case it's relevant, that I watch only OTA (Mendon, MA)...no cable, sat, fiber and have the audio dropouts as well with WNAC 64-1...it seems to just be the center channel. Tuner is a pcHDTV HD-5500 PCI using MythTV w/Linux.

Cheers,
Jesse

ATPTourFan
11-26-08, 05:26 PM
I just wanted to mention, in case it's relevant, that I watch only OTA (Mendon, MA)...no cable, sat, fiber and have the audio dropouts as well with WNAC 64-1...it seems to just be the center channel. Tuner is a pcHDTV HD-5500 PCI using MythTV w/Linux.

Cheers,
Jesse

Good research!

ATPTourFan
11-26-08, 05:28 PM
When I first got my (or rather, got my first) DVR from Cox the technician said that multi room would be coming along "within the next six months or so". That was about 3 years (and 11 boxes) ago. Last time I asked (a few months ago) multi room was still "months away" from being rolled out for Cox customers due to "high licensing costs". Whatever.

Multi-room DVR would be HUGE for Cox.

Cox needs to figure out that RI is a HUGE battle ground and that their (relatively) high profits will need to be cut back, unless they enjoy the negative effects of smaller subscriber base.

Give me MOCHA!

mdodge
11-27-08, 10:05 PM
This is great news. I always welcome an alternative to watching WGBH. WSBE's programming is on a different schedule. Maybe WSBE will also get the equipment to record national HD PBS programming to show it in HD, which WGBH is not currently doing.
SMK

If you are OTA and are looking for an alternate PBS channel, swing your antenna West to Norwich, CT and get WEDN-DT. It's on Ch. 9 (53-1) and has been broadcasting SD/HD since 2001. Coverage is about 80% of RI. Cox subscribers in Southern South County have received it for years.

RoyGBiv
11-28-08, 10:14 AM
If you are OTA and are looking for an alternate PBS channel, swing your antenna East to Norwich, CT and get WEDN-DT. It's on Ch. 9 (53-1) and has been broadcasting SD/HD since 2001. Coverage is about 80% of RI. Cox subscribers in Southern South County have received it for years.

Regrettably, in Pawtucket I cannot get WEDN. I tried several years ago when I had a separate OTA digital receiver. I'm really not complaining, though, because with my current setup I get all RI and all Boston channels perfectly.

Thanks for the info, though.

SMK

RPMcCormick
11-28-08, 10:40 AM
Regrettably, in Pawtucket I cannot get WEDN. I tried several years ago when I had a separate OTA digital receiver.FYI - WEDN-DT has changed their digital channel. They used to be on a UHF channel and are now broadcasting on RF channel 9 as from this summer (when WEDH-DT came on the air on RF channel 45 from Farmington CT).

mdodge
11-28-08, 06:30 PM
Regrettably, in Pawtucket I cannot get WEDN. I tried several years ago when I had a separate OTA digital receiver. I'm really not complaining, though, because with my current setup I get all RI and all Boston channels perfectly.

Thanks for the info, though.

SMK

After Feb. 17, 2009 WEDN-DT will increase power from 1.25 Kw (ERP) to 4.25 Kw (ERP). The service contour will encompass almost all of RI. I would imagine that an outside VHF antenna would be needed in Pawtucket because of the intervening hills between Norwich and Pawtucket.