Searching for some information, I stumbled upon Cox Oklahoma's recently updated HD line up page.

So their current line up seems almost identical to our own, down to their most "new" (marked) channels, LMN HD, Hallmark HD, Spike HD, MTV HD, etc. Their next "coming" channel is AMC HD, which we just got. They do have Weather Channel HD, which we do not.

Their site indicates that "Comedy Central HD" is "coming soon", and we've been told the same (December).

But what might be "news worthy" for the Cox HD crowd is the listing of several additional channels marked as coming on December 31:

FX HD
Cartoon Network HD
Fox News HD

Don't know if this necessarily heralds anything for the Cox New England crowd, but seeing as the line up is almost the same otherwise, and that most of Cox's recent additions seem to be "national" (where there's bandwidth), I think it's a safe bet we might see these in December.

Any hints from our insiders (looks at Amy)? :)

Searching for some information, I stumbled upon Cox Oklahoma's recently updated HD line up page.

So their current line up seems almost identical to our own, down to their most "new" (marked) channels, LMN HD, Hallmark HD, Spike HD, MTV HD, etc. Their next "coming" channel is AMC HD, which we just got. They do have Weather Channel HD, which we do not.

Their site indicates that "Comedy Central HD" is "coming soon", and we've been told the same (December).

But what might be "news worthy" for the Cox HD crowd is the listing of several additional channels marked as coming on December 31:

FX HD
Cartoon Network HD
Fox News HD

Don't know if this necessarily heralds anything for the Cox New England crowd, but seeing as the line up is almost the same otherwise, and that most of Cox's recent additions seem to be "national" (where there's bandwidth), I think it's a safe bet we might see these in December.

Any hints from our insiders (looks at Amy)? :)

I could of sworn that I saw that we were getting those 3 in December, but I could be mistaken......Never know with Cox New England, they are still tight lipped as ever about upcoming channel additions....

I could of sworn that I saw that we were getting those 3 in December, but I could be mistaken......Never know with Cox New England, they are still tight lipped as ever about upcoming channel additions....

"could have sworn" I'm wondering where you might have read that... ?

My sources are pretty much tantamount to this and a few other threads, the Cox NE web site, our channel listing, the "Nexus" newsletter, and occasionally a note on our bill :-)

I could of sworn that I saw that we were getting those 3 in December, but I could be mistaken......Never know with Cox New England, they are still tight lipped as ever about upcoming channel additions....

Hey all –

We are indeed getting some new channels this and next week, and making changes to our channel lineup. Details below, some of which have previously been reported, but I wanted to provide a current, comprehensive overview for you.

Also, our engineering team is going to be realigning the channels within our spectrum which will provide those with QAM tuners access to the local channels again. As you know, you’ll need to perform an autoscan your find the new channel locations. (As a point of reference, non-Cox customers or customers who receive their broadcast digital and HD channels via an antenna will not be impacted. We are only changing the frequencies within our system.)

PS – the reason I am so “tight-lipped” is I hate to let you all down if and when we need to make last minute changes :) I WILL keep you posted.

Summary of December 3 changes:

Channel Additions: Great American Country to Cox Digital Cable ch. 198

Channel Moves: From/To
VH1 Classic 196/188
Palladia HD 730/751
CMT 61/196
Sci-Fi 69/61
ShopNBC 67/64
Discovery Health 68/70

Channel Drops:
GoScout Autos (ch. 111)

December 8 addition:
Golf HD ch. 730

Hey all –

We are indeed getting some new channels this and next week, and making changes to our channel lineup. Details below, some of which have previously been reported, but I wanted to provide a current, comprehensive overview for you.

Also, our engineering team is going to be realigning the channels within our spectrum which will provide those with QAM tuners access to the local channels again. As you know, you’ll need to perform an autoscan your find the new channel locations. (As a point of reference, non-Cox customers or customers who receive their broadcast digital and HD channels via an antenna will not be impacted. We are only changing the frequencies within our system.)

PS – the reason I am so “tight-lipped” is I hate to let you all down if and when we need to make last minute changes :) I WILL keep you posted.

Summary of December 3 changes:

Channel Additions: Great American Country to Cox Digital Cable ch. 198

Channel Moves: From/To
VH1 Classic 196/188
Palladia HD 730/751
CMT 61/196
Sci-Fi 69/61
ShopNBC 67/64
Discovery Health 68/70

Channel Drops:
GoScout Autos (ch. 111)

December 8 addition:
Golf HD ch. 730

It would be nice if you could free up your bandwidth and go all out digital.

Any idea on when?

It would be nice if you could free up your bandwidth and go all out digital.

Any idea on when?

2/17/09 :p

awesome to hear about the qam thing. I'd love to be able to pick up NBC and ABC HD again on my panasonic plasma

It would be nice if you could free up your bandwidth and go all out digital.

Any idea on when?

2012 at the earliest. Unless a cable company can get a waiver, the FCC has decided that almost all cable companies must keep analog service going until 2012.

- Trip

Qam users can now get the following. WJAR - 74.1, WLNE - 74.2, WLWC - 75.1, WPRI - 76.1, WNAC - 76.2 and WGBH - 77.1

Qam users can now get the following. WJAR - 74.1, WLNE - 74.2, WLWC - 75.1, WPRI - 76.1, WNAC - 76.2 and WGBH - 77.1

Yes! I finally have all them again :)

Qam users can now get the following. WJAR - 74.1, WLNE - 74.2, WLWC - 75.1, WPRI - 76.1, WNAC - 76.2 and WGBH - 77.1

I cannot get WJAR - it is still on 132.1 for me. Did just some Cox locations get this change? I hadn't looked here in awhile and only checked when my Tivo recorded a grey screen instead of Grey's Anatomy.

I cannot get WJAR - it is still on 132.1 for me. Did just some Cox locations get this change? I hadn't looked here in awhile and only checked when my Tivo recorded a grey screen instead of Grey's Anatomy.

Remember you have to do a rescan to clear the old settings...This may be the issue. RIght now I am getting WNAC on both 76-2 AND 126-3, so you may need to manually change it. I get WJAR on both 132.1 AND 74.1 as well.

Looks like the folks over at the CT Cox forum discovered a posting to DPUC indicating that 4 new HD channels are being rolled out there on 12/17, with one on 12/31.

http://www.dpuc.state.ct.us/DPUCUndocketed.nsf/6e9beec82815c42f85256a61005a47fc/85256a63004def96852575160068ad28/$FILE/Cox%20Communications%20New%20England%20-%20Programming%20Changes.PDF

As everyone here probably knows, CT and RI Cox share an almost identical line up, including HD. CT has 2 HDs we don't have, and I think they're both regional sports channels that don't apply to RI. These DPUC posts always end up holding true for RI too... in fact, in the past (as with the big Universal channel roll out with USA, SciFi, Bravo, etc) we often get the channels a few days before CT does for some reason.

I am guessing, however, that while this definitely indicates intent, there's a chance some of the dotted lines haven't been signed yet... would explain why Amy has hinted at more coming this month while cautioning that not all the deals have been finalized.

In any case, the updates mostly mirror those I mentioned in my other recent post:

12/17
Fox News HD
Speed HD
FX HD
Cartoon Network HD

12/31
E! HD

Looks like we're also getting Fox Business News, but not in HD for whatever reason.

Anyways, looks like a nice update!

FX is the big one for me. Ive been waiting for that one for such a long time

I just saw on another message board - radio-info.com - that WLWC channel 28, Providence's CW station, is permanently shutting down their analog transmitter sometime on Tuesday, December 9, 2008. Can anyone confirm this? This is short notice.

For those here who get their TV via an antenna, the Boston TV stations will be having DTV tests tomorrow, and you will see reminders to convert to digital frequently during the day.

I just saw on another message board - radio-info.com - that WLWC channel 28, Providence's CW station, is permanently shutting down their analog transmitter sometime on Tuesday, December 9, 2008. Can anyone confirm this? This is short notice.

The WLDC website has NOTHING!

WZMY has gone all digital already but they mentioned it on their website and elsewhere.

WLWC might want to tell the FCC about this. Stations terminating their analog are supposed to file with the FCC a month in advance, and there's been no filing from WLWC.

- Trip

We will know soon, I suppose. All I can see on the WLWC website is that the transition is coming in 70 days.

Is anyone else getting tired of this bad information:

In fact, the government has already auctioned off those analog frequencies. Telecommunications firms paid $19.5 billion to the government.

"Analog frequencies" have been auctioned off, huh? Tell that to the 142 DTV stations which currently reside on 52-69, though 126 of those are on 52-59, which wasn't supposed to be auctioned initially.

I was tired of it six months ago.

- Trip

Qam users can now get the following. WJAR - 74.1, WLNE - 74.2, WLWC - 75.1, WPRI - 76.1, WNAC - 76.2 and WGBH - 77.1

YAY!!! i can finnaly get QAM in windows media center now! Also picked up an NBC station out of Boston over the air last night that i never was able to before. BTW i'm in newport,ri.

I called WLWC TV 28 and the operator confirmed that they shut off their analog ch 28 transmitter at midnight and are now digital only on ch 22. It will be interesting to find out how far the digital signal extends.

Hello everyone,

Sorry for not keeping up with the forum.

I am the engineer who has been taking care of the WLWC transmitter site since the sale of the station. I also work with the past engineer Bob Y. up here at CBS Boston.

I will try to keep a better eye out here on the forum to answer any question you may have.

YES... I shutthe analog transmitter was shut off at midnight (00:00:03).
As soon as I am able to post URL's I will send a link to the pictures and video we took.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Dave Goldstein
WLWC / CW28
Chief Cook and Bottle washer

Did I miss the announcement ? I noticed that, as of this morning, Cox removed The Traffic Channel (124) and added the MLB network (129) - however, it won't be "live" until 6 PM on 1-1-2009.

And, for NESN fans, there's a familiar face on the MLB Network studio team:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081208&content_id=3706838&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Hey everyone,

MLB Network did launch today on ch.129. RI Traffic ceased operations.

Also re: an earlier post, we confirmed late yesterday that the deal was signed for the addition of the following HD channels to be added next Wednesday, December 17:

Fox News HD, ch. 733
Speed HD, ch. 731
FX HD, ch. 753
Cartoon HD, ch. 771

We’re also adding Fox Business News to Cox Digital Cable 122.

Finally, as an FYI, NBC WeatherPlus is ceasing operations and will no longer be on channel 800.

Anyone know what WJAR or WHDH plans to do with their sub channel after Weatherplus shuts down later this month?

The real Weather Channel would be nice.

As soon as I am able to post URL's I will send a link to the pictures and video we took.

Thank you for the update. If you can post a link here on the forum, that would be great.

I would also be interested in how many phone calls, etc. were received with technical concerns. Hopefully, this will help convert more analog OTA viewers before February.

Waiting until the last minute is not a good idea, but from what the PSA's keep saying, "Digital is Coming," it's as if they are being encouraged to wait, when digital is already here (for the vast majority of stations).

I have Cox expanded cable. My HDTV got about 7 free HD channels up until today. Now there are only NBC and ABC which are around 130. The channels in the 120s are gone. Does anyone know the new channel numbers? They must switch them to make it difficult for people who don't pay for HD service??

Qam users can now get the following. WJAR - 74.1, WLNE - 74.2, WLWC - 75.1, WPRI - 76.1, WNAC - 76.2 and WGBH - 77.1

I have Cox expanded cable. My HDTV got about 7 free HD channels up until today. Now there are only NBC and ABC which are around 130. The channels in the 120s are gone. Does anyone know the new channel numbers? They must switch them to make it difficult for people who don't pay for HD service??

You ll have to rescan for the new placement, last time I checked I was getting both feeds (new and old) for the locals.

I have Cox expanded cable. My HDTV got about 7 free HD channels up until today. Now there are only NBC and ABC which are around 130. The channels in the 120s are gone. Does anyone know the new channel numbers? They must switch them to make it difficult for people who don't pay for HD service??

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15210125&postcount=3258

I called WLWC TV 28 and the operator confirmed that they shut off their analog ch 28 transmitter at midnight and are now digital only on ch 22. It will be interesting to find out how far the digital signal extends.

This is just a general question, but will the Digital signal of all stations improve/strengthen once their analog transmitters are shut off? Will it depend on station to station? Or will it not make any difference?

I've been curious because it would make sense that stations will be able to allocate more power to the digital side once the analog transmissions are done.

This is just a general question, but will the Digital signal of all stations improve/strengthen once their analog transmitters are shut off? Will it depend on station to station? Or will it not make any difference?

I've been curious because it would make sense that stations will be able to allocate more power to the digital side once the analog transmissions are done.There are a number of answers to this. Some stations will be moving from their current ATSC channel - either moving back to their analog channel (with a new DTV setup) or to some other channel (if they are out of core, e.g., above channel 51).

Other stations have construction permits to "maximize" - which may include changes in antenna directivity and/or increased power levels.

And the rest of the stations that don't fall into one of the above categories are probably today transmitting with their final characteristics.

Although fairly technical in nature - the FCC web site Media Bureau TV Query page will give you all the details for each licensed station.

I just saw a message on another website, radio-info.com, that WFXT-TV 25's analog signal failed yesterday and is now off for good. Some may lose coverage now because the digital signal is weak.

need some help please My HDTV with Qam tuner is not picking up any HD stations. I have cox in RI. TV wasn't used in a while and yesterday only 1 HD was coming in, 132.2, I believe. I rescanned with same results. So, now I read on this thread that the HD stations are in the 70's. I just re-scanned and now I don't get anything higher than channel 99(no channels in the 70's). It's a Westinghouse TV, less than a year old. Could weather have anything to do with the scans? Any thoughts what is going on?

Update: Tried another scan...no digital channels found, just analog. Earlier today, it was over 200 digital found. Could the QAM tuner have fried with today's scans? No error messages, and it still took the 15 minutes or so to complete.

Have you tried unplugging everything and restarting?

happy to see the new channels show up today :)

Yes FINALLY FX in HD and SPEED HD :-D too bad they didn't add Fox Business HD, probably are going to gauge if enough people watch the channel that have HD first....

I just got a tv with QAM and I have some pretty interesting neighbors......:o

Hello everyone,

I have gotten several complaints from the North Providence area that a good amount of people are "UNABLE" to receive CW28, 28-1 on their converter boxes. Is anyone in forum in that area or knows of someone in that area who either can or can't decode the HD signal. Is there possible something in that general area that could be causing this? Remember CW28's transmitter is in Freetown, MA. It's not that it's too far away but it is a good distance in comparison, and GOD only knows how exactly these people have everything setup. Also remember the digital is running -20db from the analog. Say GOOD BYE TO BUILDING PENETRATION!!!

I'm afraid this is not even the TIP of the iceberg!!! Wait until February 17th... The fun really begins.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

Dave G.
Part time Chief Cook and Bottle Washer!!

Hello everyone,

I have gotten several complaints from the North Providence area that a good amount of people are "UNABLE" to receive CW28, 28-1 on their converter boxes. Is anyone in forum in that area or knows of someone in that area who either can or can't decode the HD signal. Is there possible something in that general area that could be causing this? Remember CW28's transmitter is in Freetown, MA. It's not that it's too far away but it is a good distance in comparison, and GOD only knows how exactly these people have everything setup. Also remember the digital is running -20db from the analog. Say GOOD BYE TO BUILDING PENETRATION!!!

I'm afraid this is not even the TIP of the iceberg!!! Wait until February 17th... The fun really begins.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

Dave G.
Part time Chief Cook and Bottle Washer!!
CORRECTION... I just got corrected from a real TV engineer. The actual difference between analog and digital is a bit less than 10db. MY BAD... I won;t trry to explain why. I will just shove my foot deeper.
DJGoldie

Actually, at 350kW, WLWC's digital signal should be stronger than the former NTSC signal (5000kW). Only about 250-300kW should be needed for replication. The pattern is also different, favoring the NW vs. the NE.

I suspect that non-co-located stations are in for more problems than they would otherwise expect. Antenna directions are more forgiving in the analog world.

WLWC has a CP to increase their ERP to 440kW, which is not that much of an increase over 350. They would be better off moving and setting up a DTS if they are concerned about losing coverage on the Cape.

Edit: There are "shadows" in the coverage of Providence with WLWC's current facility. The attached is from the online TV Fool.com coverage map. The Providence area does not have any SRTM data or I would model it.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=80&q=call%3dwlwc%26type%3dD

I would suspect that if the problems with ch. 28's digital signal is any example, and the fact that many of the Providence stations have weaker signals than the Boston ones, that most of the Providence area stations will be upgrading their transmitters and/or transmitting power after the digital transition.

This question is for Amy. Is there any chance or plans to change the HD numbers to match their SD equivalents? I noticed that some of the channels are already set up this way like MTV HD at 760 or Sci-Fi HD at 769. Why not change all the rest? For example, I think that ESPN HD should be on channel 730 instead of 711. IMO that would be much better and easier to transition to for new HD costumers.

One more question. Is there a way to have the guide just display the HD channels?

Thanks,

Chris

This question is for Amy. Is there any chance or plans to change the HD numbers to match their SD equivalents? I noticed that some of the channels are already set up this way like MTV HD at 760 or Sci-Fi HD at 769. Why not change all the rest? For example, I think that ESPN HD should be on channel 730 instead of 711. IMO that would be much better and easier to transition to for new HD costumers.

One more question. Is there a way to have the guide just display the HD channels?

Thanks,

Chris
I think changing espn hd at this point would just piss more people off. That Hd channel has been around for a long time now

happy to see the new channels show up today :)

Glad to hear! We're also adding Comedy Central HD and E! HD on 12/31.

Since you work for cox.....

Any info on Fox Business News HD, another site said Cox and Fox made a deal and starting Jan 1 2009, 2 million homes will get the channel.....

I want IFC HD next :)

This question is for Amy. Is there any chance or plans to change the HD numbers to match their SD equivalents? I noticed that some of the channels are already set up this way like MTV HD at 760 or Sci-Fi HD at 769. Why not change all the rest? For example, I think that ESPN HD should be on channel 730 instead of 711. IMO that would be much better and easier to transition to for new HD costumers.

One more question. Is there a way to have the guide just display the HD channels?

Thanks,

Chris

Yes, you can customize what channels are displayed on your converter box's interactive guide. In the latest Passport Echo guide that cox uses, you can press the Guide button, and once the Guide is on the screen you can press the A button and you'll get more options about what channels are displayed. Play around with that to skip over channels you don't like.

You can also manually edit Favorite channels (which are now, by default, automatically set based on viewing habits).

These two tricks will help you focus most of your viewing in the HD range.

Since you work for cox.....

Any info on Fox Business News HD, another site said Cox and Fox made a deal and starting Jan 1 2009, 2 million homes will get the channel.....

I want IFC HD next :)

Thanks for your note. I'm inquiring about the FBN HD, as I was not aware of that elsewhere. Re: IFC HD - I sent it along to our programming department.

This question is for Amy. Is there any chance or plans to change the HD numbers to match their SD equivalents? I noticed that some of the channels are already set up this way like MTV HD at 760 or Sci-Fi HD at 769. Why not change all the rest? For example, I think that ESPN HD should be on channel 730 instead of 711. IMO that would be much better and easier to transition to for new HD costumers.

One more question. Is there a way to have the guide just display the HD channels?

Thanks,

Chris

Chris, I'm not sure if the SD/HD channel numbers were intentional or coincidence. At this point in time, we don't have any plans to change ESPN HD, although we will keep it in mind in our effort to improve the experience with our products and services.

I'm pretty sure you're question about the HD channels was already answered by another member.

Thanks for the help

I noticed to night that WSBE is broadcasting in HD. I'm not technically minded, so don't know how to describe their PQ but definitely not right. The picture is much too narrow with non HD picture having very large black bars on each side. They are advertising a HD program Christmas eve at 8 so will be interesting to see how it looks.

I noticed to night that WSBE is broadcasting in HD. I'm not technically minded, so don't know how to describe their PQ but definitely not right. The picture is much too narrow with non HD picture having very large black bars on each side. They are advertising a HD program Christmas eve at 8 so will be interesting to see how it looks.

Just remember that not everything shown on HD channels is HD. Most of the time when you see bars on both sides of your TV then its 4:3 non HD material that is being shown. Sometimes stations choose to stretch the image so it fills your screen others just choose to show it in OAR.

Right now for instance as I am typing this WGBH seems to be doing thier donate-a-thon so when the "promoter" is speaking it is SD 4:3, but the program itself may be HD. Remember to look for the "HDTV" icon in the guide as this is usually a good indicator (although not perfect) of if the program is in HD or not.

If you can, check the channel. The best way I can describe it, is the actual picture is much too small - the black bars on each side are twice the size as normal with a SD picture, making the figures thin, just the opposite of a stretched picture.

If you can, check the channel. The best way I can describe it, is the actual picture is much too small - the black bars on each side are twice the size as normal with a SD picture, making the figures thin, just the opposite of a stretched picture.

If you are getting the "squish" then you need to check your TV settings and or the Cable Box output settings to make sure they are OK. I personally have the DVR set up for 1080i wide. My TV is set up to show everything natively, no stetching ect......

SOunds like to me that one of the above is squishing your picture causing this. WHen I was watching he channel that night everything looked normal for an SD 4:3 picture.

Thanks for your input. I have FIOS and of all the channels I have, this is the only one that appears like it does. I checked all the settings, and stretched the picture and it was much better. The channel may be still in the early stages of changes since they advertised a HD program the other night and it definitely was not in HD - WGBH was fine.

Something is wrong with WSBE-DT's configuration. They're not putting out 1920x1080i like they're supposed to, they're putting out 1440x1080i which on some receivers will cause the "squish."

- Trip

Ahhh, so it isn't just my very old eyes!!! I'll have to give them a call. Thanks.

Bruce (K1DYA)

What is the deal with HD programing on PBS? I watch WGBH-HD all the time and I'm often watching 4x3 programs in letterbox (ie, This Old House). Do they have some type of distribution issue?

What is the deal with HD programing on PBS? I watch WGBH-HD all the time and I'm often watching 4x3 programs in letterbox (ie, This Old House). Do they have some type of distribution issue?

Yes, in a sense. The problem is that WGBH does not have the equipment to record and playback HD programs. They have only the capability to pass through PBS network HD programming at the time of original broadcast. Hard to believe, isn't it? So anything you are seeing that is letterboxed to a fare-thee-well has been previously recorded by WGBH in SD and is being rebroadcast as such. If you are seeing HD, then it is real-time network fare.

I was wondering where all the prime time HD went on GBH and found they swapped HD to 2.1 where it had been on 2.2.
But good news is I finally saw an episode of TOH in HD Sat @ 5PM. WooHoo!
Been waiting over a year since they moved the prime time showings to 44.1.

Glad to hear! We're also adding Comedy Central HD and E! HD on 12/31.

looks like E! was added as promised... But no sign of Comedy. Wonder if that's still going online today or if it was delayed ... Again.

I was wondering where all the prime time HD went on GBH and found they swapped HD to 2.1 where it had been on 2.2.
But good news is I finally saw an episode of TOH in HD Sat @ 5PM. WooHoo!
Been waiting over a year since they moved the prime time showings to 44.1.

I don't believe the PBS broadcast of TOH is on Saturday, so if you have actually seen TOH in HD, then WGBH must have gotten its HD recording gear working. That's great news!

I hope this is the beginning of all the available HD programming actually showing up on WGBH in HD.

SMK

looks like E! was added as promised... But no sign of Comedy. Wonder if that's still going online today or if it was delayed ... Again.

Hey all, Comedy HD is indeed delayed due to some technical difficulties. We expect this will be up early next year.

Happy New Year.

Darn,was looking forward to Comedy Central in HD. Though I wonder how many of their shows are currently in HD.

RoyGBiv, I've had my HDDVR set to the Sat 5PM slot for a while now and indeed TOH in HD 2.1.
May have been the previous week also but the DVR was set to tune 2.2.
I notice back to back episodes of TOH again this Sat like last weeks where it had been the 'TOH Hour'.
Thought I'd seen other not in prime time HD programs on 'GBH recently, so looks like recording gear in place.
'Bout time, I've had it well over a year now. :) Perfect ending to '08 though.

Can everyone get CBS in HD without using a cable box? When I ran a scan, I was able to get Fox and NBC OK, I only got ABC from Boston, and no CBS at all. I live in swansea and have Comcast. I called comcast and they blame CBS saying it's CBS's fault I am unable to get the channel. I know most of you have Cox, so i assume if you can't get it, it really is CBS's fault.


FYI- I ran the scan using a Tivo series 3

Thanks

I am the owner of a new HDTV, which I hooked up to my existing "Extended Standard" Cox Cable service (no cable box). With the clear QAM tuner, I do receive ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, WGBH and CW HD digital signals in the 74.xx to 77.xx range but I also receive several movie and other apparent "on demand" channels, on an ephemeral basis in the mid 80s to low 90s. These movies and shows often will stop, rewind, or fast forward, or even shut off all together, inexplicably, as if someone else is controlling the reception. Can someone enlighten me as to why I'm getting these additional channels via, I assume, the clear QAM tuner? Is someone else in the neighborhood subscribing to these channels and I'm just piggybacking off of their feed or is the stopping, RWing and FFing Cox's way of scrambling these signals?

For what it's worth, I also got the Playboy channel for about 48 hours over New Year's Eve/Day but now it's gone. There never seemed to be any freezing, RWing or FFing on that channel; just a lot of continuous action during the 48 hour period that I frequently kept switching to that channel to check the reception (my couch potato equivalent of just reading the magazine articles).

My apologies if these questions have already been answered in any of the other 110 pages of posts.

PS, I live in Wakefield RI

I am the owner of a new HDTV, which I hooked up to my existing "Extended Standard" Cox Cable service (no cable box). With the clear QAM tuner, I do receive ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, WGBH and CW HD digital signals in the 74.xx to 77.xx range but I also receive several movie and other apparent "on demand" channels, on an ephemeral basis in the mid 80s to low 90s. These movies and shows often will stop, rewind, or fast forward, or even shut off all together, inexplicably, as if someone else is controlling the reception. Can someone enlighten me as to why I'm getting these additional channels via, I assume, the clear QAM tuner? Is someone else in the neighborhood subscribing to these channels and I'm just piggybacking off of their feed or is the stopping, RWing and FFing Cox's way of scrambling these signals?

For what it's worth, I also got the Playboy channel for about 48 hours over New Year's Eve/Day but now it's gone. There never seemed to be any freezing, RWing or FFing on that channel; just a lot of continuous action during the 48 hour period that I frequently kept switching to that channel to check the reception (my couch potato equivalent of just reading the magazine articles).

My apologies if these questions have already been answered in any of the other 110 pages of posts.

PS, I live in Wakefield RI

The ppv movies and On Demand programming you are seeing are "leaks" and the channels they appear on often change. Most of the time this is other people in your neighborhood, node ordering these itmes and you are catching a "free ride". SOmetimes you will see people FFW to the "good parts" ;) LOL....No you can really know what your neighbors are watching. There is no ryme or reason to the appearance of channels ect, just happens when they happen. BEfore when I lived in Providence I used to get many more leasks, now that I moved and it seems many people have moved to FIOS here The leaks are very few. I dont check like I used to though.

I hope this is the beginning of all the available HD programming actually showing up on WGBH in HD. SMK

I recorded all 3 episodes of Masterpiece Theater (Classics) Sunday night to see how they were carried, and all 3 were in HD so it does look like GBH has solved the problem with recorded programs.

Is WPRI passing the TVGOS data yet or will they??

Is WPRI passing the TVGOS data yet or will they??If you are speaking of the electronic program guide that is part of the ATSC (DTV) transmissions, yes. If you are watching WPRI-DT over fibre, cable or satellite it will depend on whether those carriers are passing the EPG packets (text tables, extended text tables, etc.) from the station.

No, I'm talking about TVGOS data through CBS from Macrovision, not a very limited EPG from one single station;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=510125

Amazing just how many never heard of TVGuideOnScreen or don't know the difference, which includes most of the broadcast industry. :rolleyes:

No, I'm talking about TVGOS data through CBS from Macrovision, not a very limited EPG from one single station;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=510125 Amazing just how many never heard of TVGuideOnScreen or don't know the difference, which includes most of the broadcast industry. :rolleyes:OK - you can add me as another one who was not aware of the Macrovision / GEMSTAR product.

I took a quick look at the URL you provided above - long thread - I don't have time right now to go through it all. I did look at the Macrovision site but didn't see any info on how this metadata is technically distributed. I found other AVS Forum threads that implicate the data is in the VBI (vertical blanking interval). If you have any references on how this info it originated I can find out more about its pass-thru.

Also note: I saw some posts of yours regarding this capability in the Buffalo area. The Buffalo CBS affiliate WIVB is a sister station to WPRI in Providence. WIVB is supported by LIN's Indianapolis hub whilst WPRI is out of the LIN New England hub.

According to a engineer from the CBS affilate in Albany NY, TVGOS data is sent via the internet, the equipment is supplied by Macrovision and they then pay the station to carry the service. More or less.

I recorded all 3 episodes of Masterpiece Theater (Classics) Sunday night to see how they were carried, and all 3 were in HD so it does look like GBH has solved the problem with recorded programs.

Well, obviously then they're doing better, but they are not recording and replaying all the HD programming that's available. I like to watch America's Test Kitchen, which is definitely produced in HD, and that is how it was shown as part of the PBS HD national programming presentations. On Saturday, it was SD letterboxed on all 4 sides.

SMK

After a phone call to our CBS affilate, WIVB, I was flatly told, due to Lin's policy, TVGOS will not be supported. I contacted Linn, but haven't heard a reply yet.

Maybe some written letters or phone calls might 'stir' things up. ;)

FWIIW, TVGOS info has been carried in the Boston market by WFXT analog channel 25, the local Fox affiliate, whereas in most markets it is the PBS station that has been carrying this info. I have been accessing this info for four years with my LG 3410A DVR, and I can readily attest that it is a flawed and flaky technology at best. THE LG3410A thread in this forum runs to 5500+ posts, the great majority dealing with ongoing TVGOS problems. The general consensus is that the info is frequently corrupted, either by Gemstar, the transmission process, or the broadcaster, causing the LG box to lock up. Various ingenious reboot procedures have been developed by end-users to get the box working again.

Further, TVGOS info has been carried by Boston CBS affiliate WBZ-HD since last summer, and they will be the sole carrier of this info after the analog shutdown next month. Regrettably, the LG3410A cannot access TVGOS info in digital broadcasts. The Dish DTVPal/Echostar TR-40 is <I>supposed</I> to translate this info into the older analog format for use with legacy DVRs such as mine, but no one, at least on this forum, has gotten the process to work. Stayed tuned [sorry] for further developments.

Thanks for the above.
My two TVGOS devices are the Sony DVR and a Mits. The DVR will work with digital sugnals though it is doubtful this will be availabe in my market since the CBS affilate is not going to carry the signal. As for the Mits, it is unknown if it will work with digital channels.
As for relibility, it hasn't been that much a problem with my PBS affilate (WNED) and the Sony DVR, but it's unknown how well it will work with the limited data from Toronto through the CTV network and CFTO that is currently supplying the data. CFTO will be my source if nothing is available in my market after Feb. 17th.

PS; Nice to have Canada as a neighbor. I feel sorry for all you less fortunate viewers out there. ;)

FOr the TVGOS questions, I have had TVGOS information in RI for a few years now...I forget which station actually passs it, but it does pick up everything accurately. I used to use TVGOS for a DVR, and my current TV has a TVGOS interface for when I am off of the "box". Dont bother calling Cox on this issue, I tried a few years ago and they were clueless on what TVGOS even was, I am sure most people as stated before will be as well. I actually just re did my TVGOS for my TV as I had moved and never re did the set up, picked up all the stations flawlessly.

Here is a screenshot of what the interface looks like for those who are unaware sorry for the bad pic, but its from my phone and done quickly:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1424/44759989hq7.jpg

I do have a question for anyone from WJAR. The HD feed seems to have dropped audio levels that seem to be MUCH lower then other channels. I have confirmed this on two different TVs. I usually can set the TV somewhere in the teens low 20s depending on the noise level in the house, now with WJAR, I had to set it in the 30s which makes the other channels "blast". Not sure if this is a known issue, or if this is done on purpose, but it only happened recently.

In regard to TVGOS in Providence: Check WSBE-DT.

- Trip

How come no one ever complains about all the local affiliates still showing news in standard def?

We're less than 8 weeks away from the HD switch over and yet local news is still in standard def? Are they just planning to broadcast standard def with side bars for "HD"?

I figured at least NBC/10 or CBS/12 would be HD now. Ugh.

How come no one ever complains about all the local affiliates still showing news in standard def?

We're less than 8 weeks away from the HD switch over and yet local news is still in standard def? Are they just planning to broadcast standard def with side bars for "HD"?

I figured at least NBC/10 or CBS/12 would be HD now. Ugh.

The switchover is from analog to digital, not to HD. Digital and HD are seperate things. As far as news in HD, it costs money to switch your broadcast to HD, it seems the Providence market channesl dont have the funds to switch to HD broadcasts yet.

Dont bother calling Cox on this issue, I tried a few years ago and they were clueless on what TVGOS even was75% (give or take and probably more) of the broadcast & consumer industry doesn't have a clue about it either.How come no one ever complains about all the local affiliates still showing news in standard def?As stated above it is a huge expense to do so, especially in a small market. It's just not worth it (at this point in time).

The switchover is from analog to digital, not to HD. Digital and HD are seperate things. As far as news in HD, it costs money to switch your broadcast to HD, it seems the Providence market channesl dont have the funds to switch to HD broadcasts yet.

And you'd think after LIN practically extorted fees out of Cox, Verizon, et al for HD carriage that they'd be able to fund an HD transition...

And you'd think after LIN practically extorted fees out of Cox, Verizon, et al for HD carriage that they'd be able to fund an HD transition...

You'd think, right?


As far as the TVGOS discussion goes, is that really appropriate for this message thread?

I would prefer this forum continue to focus on HD and DTV in the Greater Providence Area.

I don't believe the PBS broadcast of TOH is on Saturday, so if you have actually seen TOH in HD, then WGBH must have gotten its HD recording gear working. That's great news!

I hope this is the beginning of all the available HD programming actually showing up on WGBH in HD.

SMK
Yes I noticed that the recording of "Ask This Old House" that aired on Saturday was also in HD. Very exciting times!

As far as the TVGOS discussion goes, is that really appropriate for this message thread?I only asked it here because Lin's corporate HQ is located here and so is one of their stations.

BTW "Ask This Old House" and "This Old House" has been broadcast in HD since the beginning of the season as a one hour program (I beleive) Friday evening and repeated again after 11pm.

TVGOS is a feature of several pieces of HD recording equipment, such as the DTVPal DVR, so figuring out which station offers that feature is certainly within the realm of HD discussion.

- Trip

I tried to search for this information but I've been unable to find it.


I currently have Cox cable expanded basic. No box, no digital cable, just the standard analog service plugging in the coaxial cable into my new TV.

I just got my first HDTV (Panasonic plasma 720p 42"). With the QAM tuner I am able to pick up some local HD channels which are "in the clear" from Cox. However NONE of these channels are wide screen format 16:9. They are ALL in 4:3 (identical to the non HD channels in format), even though they are in HD. I've asked relatives who are watching the same program in HD and they are getting wide screen (they live in other states and don't have Cox service).

I am certain these channels are in HD because the channel information will show 720p or 1080i and the picture is significantly sharper than the non-HD equivalent.

Why doesn't Cox broadcast these "in the clear" HD channels in wide screen format? If I pay extra for the box and digital cable will I get these network channels in wide screen format? Or will I just get the same HD networks in 4:3?

Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Were the stations you were watching broadcasting a program in HDTV at the time? Here in greater Hartford, the only station airing content in HD outside of the network is WFSB-DT (CBS) channel 33, a.k.a. 3-1. Most TVs will show the picture in the standard definition format of 4:3 and fill in the sides automatically when a HD show in 16:9 format comes on.

Why doesn't Cox broadcast these "in the clear" HD channels in wide screen format? If I pay extra for the box and digital cable will I get these network channels in wide screen format? Or will I just get the same HD networks in 4:3?

Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.

I would probably say that only 25-30% content during a 24 hour day is broadcasted in 16x9 HD. Check in during prime time to have the greatest chance of seeing HD content. I have Cox and I never have trouble seeing HD content over Clear-QAM when it's available.

Were the stations you were watching broadcasting a program in HDTV at the time? Here in greater Hartford, the only station airing content in HD outside of the network is WFSB-DT (CBS) channel 33, a.k.a. 3-1. Most TVs will show the picture in the standard definition format of 4:3 and fill in the sides automatically when a HD show in 16:9 format comes on.

I'm fairly certain that the stations were broadcasting in HD at the time. The picture was significantly better and the TV input was showing 720p (for Fox) and 1080i (for CBS).

The specific shows were both Sunday playoff football games (one on FOX and one on CBS), and the brand new season premier of "24". I'm certain these shows should be coming in as 16:9 programming.

I'm really puzzled by this now.

Thanks for the help,
CranialCrusader

Wait for an known HD show. These are most of the dramas shown after 8 PM. Then if not widescreen check out the aspect ratio settings on your TV's menu. What channel number is the TV displaying for your HD channels?
John

All the HD channels via QAM on Cox are pure HD feeds just like any other and always have been. I've never had any problem watching any of the QAM channels in 16:9, nor have I seen anyone else ever reporting a problem.

Sounds like there's something going on with your TV's settings...

Wait for an known HD show. These are most of the dramas shown after 8 PM. Then if not widescreen check out the aspect ratio settings on your TV's menu. What channel number is the TV displaying for your HD channels?
John

I have to go to a digital channel like "76-2" in order to get the HD or digital signal.

Right now I'm traveling for work but I'll have to play with the menus some more when I get back on Thursday. Perhaps there is some factory setting deep in an advanced menu that is preventing the wide screen signal from being seen. I may try to post pictures.

Thanks,
CranialCrusader

I figured I would post a quick antenna review and reception report for my location in Warren, RI.

I recently purchased an Antennas Direct DB2 UHF antenna to go along with my RCA rabbit ears for HDTV reception. I'm limited on antenna options since I live on the second floor of an apartment, and don't have a way to install a roof-top or attic antenna.

The antenna is hooked up to an ElGato EyeTV Hybrid NTSC/ATSC USB Tuner stick on my Macintosh. The antenna is mounted inside on a window facing north for optimum reception of Providence and Boston stations.

I must say I'm very impressed. Before this I was using a Phillips (ANT510 I believe) Amplified UHF (panel) / VHF (rabbit ears) indoor antenna, and was only able to pull in the following local digital stations (Virtual/Digital): WJAR (10/51), WPRI (12/13), WLNE (6/49), WSBE (36/21), WNAC (64/54), WLWC (28/22).

After installing the Antennas Direct DB2, I re-scanned and received all the channels from above, plus the following stations from the Boston area: WBZ (4/30), WCVB (5/20), WGBH (2/19), WGBX (44/43), WLVI (56/41), WHDH (7/42), WSBK (38/39), WUNI (27/29), WFXT (25/31), WBPX (68/32), & WUTF (66/23).

With WHDH moving back to 7 after the digital transition, I'm guessing I'll loose that signal with the VHF rabbit ears I currently have.

Overall my reception has improved greatly, and I highly recommend the antenna, especially if you are limited to an indoor antenna. I was lucky enough to have a window pointing in the direction of the majority of the transmitters to improve my reception. Regardless, this thing is pulling in stations clearly and consistently up to a distance of about 50 miles.

In addition this thread regarding indoor antennas here on AVS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1037779) is very useful, so please check it out if your in the market for one. I tried several options listed on that thread before deciding to try out the DB2.

I hope this info helps anyone on the forum who is in a situation similar to myself, especially with the transition almost a month away. Happy viewing!

The switchover is from analog to digital, not to HD. Digital and HD are seperate things. As far as news in HD, it costs money to switch your broadcast to HD, it seems the Providence market channesl dont have the funds to switch to HD broadcasts yet.

Providence is 52 in the market - Burlington, VT is 93 and 2 of their 4 channels broadcast local news in HD.

Hey all, wasn't sure if you saw it but Comedy Central HD launched today on Channel 758.

Hey all, wasn't sure if you saw it but Comedy Central HD launched today on Channel 758.

Nice! Any clues on what's coming next?? Can we expect more HD within the next month or two?

Hey all, wasn't sure if you saw it but Comedy Central HD launched today on Channel 758.

Good news, but for some reason their main shows, The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, won't be in HD till "sometime in the future".

http://www.comedycentral.com/press/press_releases/2008/011309_comedycentral_hd.jhtml

But South Park will be in HD. :confused:

I figured I would post a quick antenna review and reception report for my location in Warren, RI.

I recently purchased an Antennas Direct DB2 UHF antenna to go along with my RCA rabbit ears for HDTV reception. I'm limited on antenna options since I live on the second floor of an apartment, and don't have a way to install a roof-top or attic antenna.

The antenna is hooked up to an ElGato EyeTV Hybrid NTSC/ATSC USB Tuner stick on my Macintosh. The antenna is mounted inside on a window facing north for optimum reception of Providence and Boston stations.

I must say I'm very impressed. Before this I was using a Phillips (ANT510 I believe) Amplified UHF (panel) / VHF (rabbit ears) indoor antenna, and was only able to pull in the following local digital stations (Virtual/Digital): WJAR (10/51), WPRI (12/13), WLNE (6/49), WSBE (36/21), WNAC (64/54), WLWC (28/22).

After installing the Antennas Direct DB2, I re-scanned and received all the channels from above, plus the following stations from the Boston area: WBZ (4/30), WCVB (5/20), WGBH (2/19), WGBX (44/43), WLVI (56/41), WHDH (7/42), WSBK (38/39), WUNI (27/29), WFXT (25/31), WBPX (68/32), & WUTF (66/23).

With WHDH moving back to 7 after the digital transition, I'm guessing I'll loose that signal with the VHF rabbit ears I currently have.

Overall my reception has improved greatly, and I highly recommend the antenna, especially if you are limited to an indoor antenna. I was lucky enough to have a window pointing in the direction of the majority of the transmitters to improve my reception. Regardless, this thing is pulling in stations clearly and consistently up to a distance of about 50 miles.

In addition this thread regarding indoor antennas here on AVS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1037779) is very useful, so please check it out if your in the market for one. I tried several options listed on that thread before deciding to try out the DB2.

I hope this info helps anyone on the forum who is in a situation similar to myself, especially with the transition almost a month away. Happy viewing!

Thanks for the info. Very helpful. How much does it cost for the DB2 antenna?

The DB2 costs about $25 on Amazon.com. It may be cheaper on Ebay. I have that and the DB4 and they both do a good job.

Thanks for the info. Very helpful. How much does it cost for the DB2 antenna?

I've seen it 25-35 online plus shipping. The one I purchased off of e-bay was used and I paid 30 with shipping.

Nice! Any clues on what's coming next?? Can we expect more HD within the next month or two?

Come on now! You know me better than to give hints or clues!!

You'd think, right?


As far as the TVGOS discussion goes, is that really appropriate for this message thread?

I would prefer this forum continue to focus on HD and DTV in the Greater Providence Area.

The TVGOS discussion is every bit as relevant as the discussion about whatever line-up Cox has to offer, which only pertains to Cox subscribers. The TVGOS discussion affects OTA users.

The TVGOS discussion is every bit as relevant as the discussion about whatever line-up Cox has to offer, which only pertains to Cox subscribers. The TVGOS discussion affects OTA users.

Not only OTS\A, but those without the COx provided DVR solution, and those whose TV utilize this feature as a built in guide. My old DVR that I have in the closet has TVGOS as its interface.

Although this is not a new problem, but in Southern RI I am amazed how the Fox (25.1) Signal is all over the place. SOme nights it's strong signal (60-70) and last night it's 28-30 and unwatchable.

I know weather and atmospheric conditions play a part - but I am convinced it's the Fox station doing it. I don't know. Their signal just sucks.

Mitchman

It DOES suck. I recall reading some time ago they were attempting, or will attempt, to upgrade it, but I don't remember all the specifics. It's one of the few Boston channels down here in Wakefield I can't get, at any time, regardless of the weather conditions.

Not only OTS\A, but those without the COx provided DVR solution, and those whose TV utilize this feature as a built in guide. My old DVR that I have in the closet has TVGOS as its interface.

Yeah I have a Sony DVR that is supposed to maybe "wonk out" on February 17th. Not sure where it gets the TVGOS listings from as I have OTA and also Cox basic (with the QAM channels) hooked up to it. Do you know what channel broadcasts the VBI packets (or whatever they are) with the TVGOS information?

Yeah I have a Sony DVR that is supposed to maybe "wonk out" on February 17th. Not sure where it gets the TVGOS listings from as I have OTA and also Cox basic (with the QAM channels) hooked up to it. Do you know what channel broadcasts the VBI packets (or whatever they are) with the TVGOS information?

Sorry I dont know which channel transmits the TVGOS signal. I beleive when I was trying to figure it out, I found that most of the time its the local PBS channel. I could of sworn it was PBS in RI transmitting the signal but I could be wrong.

Were the stations you were watching broadcasting a program in HDTV at the time? Here in greater Hartford, the only station airing content in HD outside of the network is WFSB-DT (CBS) channel 33, a.k.a. 3-1. Most TVs will show the picture in the standard definition format of 4:3 and fill in the sides automatically when a HD show in 16:9 format comes on.

CPTV's studio productions are in HD and are aired on all their Connecticut stations (not UConn B/Ball, though:()

Sorry I dont know which channel transmits the TVGOS signal. I beleive when I was trying to figure it out, I found that most of the time its the local PBS channel. I could of sworn it was PBS in RI transmitting the signal but I could be wrong.

Most all PBS stations encode the station guide in the vertical interval on the analog channels. After Feb. 17th, ??

Google: Gemstar (now Macrovision), Norpac Encoder

My info has WSBE as the affiliate for both analog and digital. This is actually an unusual arrangement, as usually the CBS affiliate carries it digitally.

- Trip

Great News RTN net
has started on wjar 10.2 too bad cox does not carry it then
again thats cox cable

Great News RTN net
has started on wjar 10.2 too bad cox does not carry it then
again thats cox cable

Excellent. Glad to see they didn't go the same route as WHDH with the subs. Maybe some day the networks will discover the value in the sub's (MSNBC,CNBC,TWC?).

Great News RTN net
has started on wjar 10.2 too bad cox does not carry it then
again thats cox cable

Verizon FIOS is carrying it on channel 460

Sorry if this is kind of a noob question, but I just can't figure this out. I am in Portsmouth and have the Cox Limited Basic with Expanded Service and HD. I have my cable split 3 ways: one to the modem, one to the cable box/DVR, and one to the back of the TV. My TV is a Sony KDL-40W4100 which, according to the documentation, has a built-in QAM tuner. When I go into the TV menu and do a channel search, it finds 64 analog and usually around 10 digital channels. Once I go into the guide, all I see are the 60 or so "basic cable" channels and nothing more. If I try to tune to 10.1, 10.2, etc, it isn't able to do it. I don't know if I'm missing a step, or if I don't have some piece of hardware that I need, but if this can be done, I'd appreciate any help or info you can provide. FWIW even though I already have the HD DVR and whatnot, I'd still like to be able to do this for possible PC recording down the road. Thanks in advance!

Look in the high numered chanels. You will probably find the local digital stations. Someone with your cable system can tell which channels these are.
John

I just found them in the 70s channel range, but I ould only get to them manually (i.e., type it in on the remote or "channel up" to it). None of those channels show up in my TV's channel guide. Any idea why? And if that is where the program is, why is 10.1 and the like showing up in the guide?

The cable Co. can put the station on any channel that that feel like. If they had preserved the PSIP info the TV would call it by its old analog channel. This did not happen in your case so you have to select the physical cable channel. I think they can program a cable box so it is tunned by a different channel number, which would be the one to look for in the guide.
John

will cox be carrying RTN if not why?
NO ONE AT COX KNOWS WHAT AM asking for? was told
there is no RTN network one e-mail I got was there is no plans to carry it
as no one would watch it as they did a servey. Thats nice I guess I was left
out on that survey. I hope everyone calls and request it.I love the network myself they show dragnet,adam 12, Quency md,ect take a look http://www.myretrotv.com/
love to hear from others to see if they watch it and if cox should carry it

the RTN network is really cool
try 102.4 lol i know once it's found out its off with the channel
so cool for know but someone will find out and kill all of the good fun
on it

as they say all good channels are deleated
by the catv company

Sorry if this is kind of a noob question, but I just can't figure this out. I am in Portsmouth and have the Cox Limited Basic with Expanded Service and HD. I have my cable split 3 ways: one to the modem, one to the cable box/DVR, and one to the back of the TV. My TV is a Sony KDL-40W4100 which, according to the documentation, has a built-in QAM tuner. When I go into the TV menu and do a channel search, it finds 64 analog and usually around 10 digital channels. Once I go into the guide, all I see are the 60 or so "basic cable" channels and nothing more. If I try to tune to 10.1, 10.2, etc, it isn't able to do it. I don't know if I'm missing a step, or if I don't have some piece of hardware that I need, but if this can be done, I'd appreciate any help or info you can provide. FWIW even though I already have the HD DVR and whatnot, I'd still like to be able to do this for possible PC recording down the road. Thanks in advance!

The channel numbers 10.1, 10.2 ect are only valid OTA channels, Cox has the locals in the 70's as you have found. For your TV you will want to make sure that when you scan you do NOT include "antannae" (sp) as a scannable option.

You may want to head over to your TVs specific thread over in the TV forums and see if there are any special setting when you scan. Also, you may just have a weak QAM tuner.

Another issue that may be causing issues is that you have a 3 way splitter. While I doubt that this is a cause you may want to have Cox out and test the signal to make sure its strong enough.

RTN 10.2 is indeed up and running but the guide data for it is coming across on 10.3....WJAR might want to look into fixing that. :)

RTN???

So WJAR wants us to appreciate how good they've become over the decades by showing us the worse TV programs ever created. TV programs that where around when we only had three TV choices at night and we were force to swallow what ever swill they threw at us.

The RTN channel scares my children to think of what TV was like back then.

Thank you WJAR, now we can punish our children by having them watch TV.

Thank You!

RTN???

So WJAR wants us to appreciate how good they've become over the decades by showing us the worse TV programs ever created. TV programs that where around when we only had three TV choices at night and we were force to swallow what ever swill they threw at us.

The RTN channel scares my children to think of what TV was like back then.

Thank you WJAR, now we can punish our children by having them watch TV.

Thank You!

WOW!! Obviously you have the right to your opinion, but (so far) you seem to be in the minority concerning the acceptance of RTN :):)

In the words of Eric Von Zipper, (Harvey Lembeck), patron saint of little Rhody local reps everywhere.

" I'm with yous."

The DVD's sales for those shows are going through the roof.

We need more Blah Blah Black-Sheep as well as a good gamblin ~~ joint to help us solve the local economics. ;)

now all we got to do is get cox cable to carry it

RTN???

So WJAR wants us to appreciate how good they've become over the decades by showing us the worse TV programs ever created. TV programs that where around when we only had three TV choices at night and we were force to swallow what ever swill they threw at us.

The RTN channel scares my children to think of what TV was like back then.

Thank you WJAR, now we can punish our children by having them watch TV.

Thank You!

TV "back then" is so much better than the junk NBC shows on a nightly basis it's not even funny.

Hey, if you want to subject your children to THE BIGGEST LOSER or GREAT DANCE OFF or any of NBC's other crap, go right ahead.

TV "back then" is so much better than the junk NBC shows on a nightly basis it's not even funny.

Hey, if you want to subject your children to THE BIGGEST LOSER or GREAT DANCE OFF or any of NBC's other crap, go right ahead.

The above crap is not the 24/7 contrived pretend crap you had on three channels before cable gave you a choice. The heros were inarticulate ballet dancers and their cars were exploding bombs on wheels. The junk you mention above is an acquired taste and a choice by some called, Reality TV and does not pretend or attempt to fool you into believing it's something it's not. :o

Reality TV and does not pretend or attempt to fool you into believing it's something it's not. :o

ROTFLMAO...That's right "The Bachelor" is really looking for a wife and not shallow self promotion on national television. ohh yeah and the girls, just wholesome brides looking for the right one. I'll stick with PBSkids & RTN types for the tikes. ;)


PS> I know a few firemen that got the bug from watching Emergency as a kid. That's bad? What do young ladies learn from the bachelor or MTV? Pole dancing?

PS> I know a few firemen that got the bug from watching Emergency as a kid. That's bad? What do young ladies learn from the bachelor or MTV? Pole dancing?

Ya got me.

I'm speechless.

P.S. Someone call the Health Department. :)

Hi,

Does anyone know if Full Channel cable in Bristol County, RI is sending any digital/hd channels down in Clear QAM? I'm working on a HTPC for a friend who is stuck subscribing to this cable system, but he isn't sure what's available and I don't have a way of testing on my own. Anyone out there have this info?

Thanks!

Wow WNAC is really impressing me. I was stunned to see that they are showing Seinfield in HD! I looked it up and it is offered everyhere but not every station shows it in HD. I am astounded that they are one of the few carrying Seinfield in HD. They are also showing Mike And Juliet in HD which even WFXT doesn't have availible. Now all WNAC needs to do is show My Network TV programs in HD. Does anyone know if the other Providence locals are planning on following WPRI/WNAC's lead? ABC6 needs a HUGE overhaul, WJAR needs to improve their local PQ and need to be able to show the talk programs they have in HD, and while WLWC has some HD syndication, they need to be able to show some of the others in HD (Legend of the Seeker, Two and a Half Men, House ex.)

As much as folks rag on LIN, Channels 12 and 64 are now LIGHTYEARS ahead in terms of the digital/HD transition to 10 and 6. Their newscasts, even in SD, are bright and crisp and look far better than the 6 and 10 newscasts, while their school closings and other "ticker" info actually rolls out in HD on the bottom of the screen. You'd imagine they'll be the first to have an HD newscast in this market given all of that. Best of all is that their improvements a few months back -- which one of their management people mentioned -- brought syndicated programming in HD in into our market, JEOPARDY, WHEEL OF FORTUNE, THE INSIDER, etc., also. At that time 12 and 64 really "raised their game" and, as you say, it shows.

I applaud 12 for being the most "advanced" of the big three local channels. Given that Channel 28 has also picked up syndicated HD programming, it's amazing to me that 6 and 10 are lagging so far behind 12/64 and even 28. The PQ on Channel 6 is horrendous, and the sound isn't much better...watching ABC shows on Channel 5 is an appreciable upgrade, and it's really the only Boston channel now (outside of WGBH) that's really a noticeable upgrade from our Providence stations.

Cox Adds 9 HD Channels In Virginia

The list includes the MLB Network.

By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (January 27, 2009) -- Cox Communications announced today that it's adding nine new High-Definition channels in the Northern Virginia area, bringing its total there to 61.

The new HD channels include The MLB Network, Fox Business, Bio, Cartoon Network, E!, Comedy Central, WE and IFC.

(Note: I know the article says 9, but lists only 8. Only posting what I know)

(Note: We are currently at 43 High Definition Channels in Phoenix)

So Amy, can we expect MLB, Fox Business, Bio, WE, and IFC in New England??

Wow, I wouldn't have believed mppy if I hadn't seen it myself...Seinfeld in HD/5.1. To quote George... I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality: it's fabulous! No more audio dropouts on the center channel either!

Cheers,
Jesse

Wow WNAC is really impressing me.


Kudos to WNAC/Lin on this one.

Is ABC6 still on the air? All I see on that channel is RF lunar skip from the 1970's :confused:

now all we got to do is get cox cable to carry it

Hey all - sorry for the delayed response. I was in Atlanta this week and returned tonight (No, I don't have any advanced scoop on HD launches :rolleyes:

The good news is, we are adding RTN on March 1st. It will be located on channel 810.

All kidding aside about the HDs, I don't have specific information I can share at this time ...

Superbowl Sunday 4:30PM

Anyone getting a lot of skipping/pixelation/distortion on the Cox WJAR-HD feed on channel 700? OTA seems to not be having this problem. Thought it might be my Tivo but just checked my other HD's on Cox and there do not seem to be similar issues. Seems to come in cycles - gets really bad for a while, then clears up, then back again, several times an hour.

Any thoughts?

Superbowl Sunday 4:30PM

Anyone getting a lot of skipping/pixelation/distortion on the Cox WJAR-HD feed on channel 700? OTA seems to not be having this problem. Thought it might be my Tivo but just checked my other HD's on Cox and there do not seem to be similar issues. Seems to come in cycles - gets really bad for a while, then clears up, then back again, several times an hour.

Any thoughts?

Superbowl was perfect for me.

Superbowl Sunday 4:30PM

Anyone getting a lot of skipping/pixelation/distortion on the Cox WJAR-HD feed on channel 700? OTA seems to not be having this problem. Thought it might be my Tivo but just checked my other HD's on Cox and there do not seem to be similar issues. Seems to come in cycles - gets really bad for a while, then clears up, then back again, several times an hour.

Any thoughts?

I was watching the Super Bowl at my folks place. They have Cox HD and I noticed the lip sync was frequently off throughout. Not sure if that was an NBC issue or a Cox one, but it was definitely noticeable.

I was watching the Super Bowl at my folks place. They have Cox HD and I noticed the lip sync was frequently off throughout. Not sure if that was an NBC issue or a Cox one, but it was definitely noticeable.

I too noticed a lot of lip sync issues while watching the superbowl via 10.1 OTA. It was especially noticeable during the half time show; Max was hitting the drums a LONG time before the sound was heard. ;-)

I wasn't able to receive ch. 7 form Boston so I didn't have another NBC channel to reference.

Anyone else have lip sync issues via 10.1 OTA?

I did watch on 7 OTA from Boston, and there were no lip synch or sound issues during the game. Several times during all the pre-game stuff the sound just cut out, including during President Obama's interview, and you could hear in the background someone saying, "did we just lose him?"

SMK

Wow WNAC is really impressing me. I was stunned to see that they are showing Seinfield in HD! I looked it up and it is offered everyhere but not every station shows it in HD. I am astounded that they are one of the few carrying Seinfield in HD. They are also showing Mike And Juliet in HD which even WFXT doesn't have availible. Now all WNAC needs to do is show My Network TV programs in HD. Does anyone know if the other Providence locals are planning on following WPRI/WNAC's lead? ABC6 needs a HUGE overhaul, WJAR needs to improve their local PQ and need to be able to show the talk programs they have in HD, and while WLWC has some HD syndication, they need to be able to show some of the others in HD (Legend of the Seeker, Two and a Half Men, House ex.)

I just started picking up WNAC last week with a new Tivo HD and silver sensor antenna. I was really surprised to pull this in with a silver sensor from 52 miles. Love the Seinfeld in HD

The last few recordings I have (Sunday?) we not in 16x9. Anyone know if WNAC is having an HD problem or is it just with Seinfeld? Thanks...

I just started picking up WNAC last week with a new Tivo HD and silver sensor antenna. I was really surprised to pull this in with a silver sensor from 52 miles. Love the Seinfeld in HD

The last few recordings I have (Sunday?) we not in 16x9. Anyone know if WNAC is having an HD problem or is it just with Seinfeld? Thanks...

Some of the earlier epidoes from what I hear will not be in 16:9, you may want to check the Seinfeld thread in the HDTV Programming part of the forum.

As for the issues people were having, I guess I didnt notice them, I also didnt really watch the half time show, so I cant verify if something was off there.

I've been reading posts on how good the DTV signal is on Providence's TV stations on the Boston board. Even though the DTV signals don't seem to penetrate that well to the north from Rehoboth, it appears that ch. 12 and 64 are the easiest to receive, and ch.28 from Freetown can be received there with good equipment. Interestingly, TV stations on ch.10's tower - chs, 6, 10 and 36 - are harder to receive probably because they are directional. I can see ch.36 being hard to receive (only 50 kw), but ch. 10 has around 900 kw and is tough to receive, even weaker than ch. 6 at only 350 kw. I called the program director at ch.36 and he said he lives in Sharon, MA and cannot get ch. 36's DTV signal there, and its likely because some of the DTV antennas on ch. 10's tower are in a blind signal spot, limiting reception.

I'd venture to suggest it has more to do with adjacent-channel interference from WLWC-DT on 22 than anything else. That is, assuming you're near the WLWC transmitter. While adjacent channels are normally okay with digital, if there's a large difference in the strength of the two signals, the weaker one can receive enough interference to cause issues.

- Trip

He would likely have to be quite close to WLWC to get it to cause trouble on an adjacent channel. I have adjacents on 34 and 35 which can both be received unless channel 34 clipps the preamp. TVFool indicates that 34 is about 48 dB stronger than 35here.
I have wondered about WJAR and WLNE, I am in SE CT and have two seperate UHF antennas seperated horizontally by 20 or 30 feet and vertically by 10 or 15 feet and WJAR is always the weaker of the two stations. This seems very odd since they share an antenna and the WJAR transmitter engineer verified that more watts are produced by the WJAR transmitter than WLNE's. Things might get a little better after transition. Following a link from Trip's site I found documentation from WJAR that they would move the antenna a few meters higher to the top of the tower.
John

Following a link from Trip's site I found documentation from WJAR that they would move the antenna a few meters higher to the top of the tower.
John

The current antenna is side-mounted and thus may have issues with reflections off the tower or the tower blocking the signal in some directions. Moving it to the top of the tower should correct those problems I would think. Hopefully that'll do the trick.

- Trip

I am looking for someone to install a new antenna on an existing mast. I'd do it myself but I'm not into heights...especially on a ladder.

I would buy the antenna and pay someone to install it.

Does anyone know of someone willing to do it or a local company? I can't seem to find anyone in the yellow pages.

Thx....

What a joke. Get ready for utter confusion. Congress is worried that the 6% of people that could not pull together the resources for a DTV box with two years of notice will declare the DTV conversion a failure?:confused:

I guess making it easier to be lazy or ignorant is job security for them. ;)

I guess Cox is adding WSBE HD now that its, well, actually HD.

According to my latest Cox statement, in a paragraph talking about its adding new OTA digital channels:

PBS station WSBE will remain on analog and will also be carried in digital HD ch. 708.

No word on timeline, but I'm wondering if it will be timed with the RTN addition in March mentioned by Amy, given that the context is updating OTA channel line up.

I just heard on ABC6 (WLNE) News at 11 PM that all Providence stations will shut off their analog signals on February 17. Any word on if all of the Boston stations shut off on the 17th too?

anyone else hit mute the second a Alan Shawn Feinstein commercial comes on?

OK, I know some people were suprised about Seinfield in HD, well I have another thing to blow you out of the water. Friday Night Smackdown is being shown in HD! Now, I don't know if this is their first time showing it in HD, but it is the first time I have seen it in HD. Also, I'm gonna be excited to see if they show all other MyNetworkTV shows in HD. BTW, we should feel very special as even the Boston Market doesn't get FNS in HD.

OK, I know some people were suprised about Seinfield in HD, well I have another thing to blow you out of the water. Friday Night Smackdown is being shown in HD! Now, I don't know if this is their first time showing it in HD, but it is the first time I have seen it in HD. Also, I'm gonna be excited to see if they show all other MyNetworkTV shows in HD. BTW, we should feel very special as even the Boston Market doesn't get FNS in HD.

Smackdown has been in HD for sometime now. It used to be on the CW? in HD before it made the move over to MNTV. Also, At least in RI Cox doesnt have MNTV in HD as of yet, dont think there are any plans to add it either....


Actually Nevermind, looks like WNAC (Fox) is now showing MNTV programming along with its Fox shows.....

Must say - think this transition deal is just as our British friends might say, a major '****-up".
Any so called advance that causes so many questions / problems has to be by definition not good. For the past few years - living in Narragansett, RI, and utilizing our roof mounted amplified antenna to pull in digital stations from the Prov/New Bedford to Boston areas - I would look at that antenna lovingly as we left the house each morning. Never one who succombed to the 800 (or so) cable channels -not to mention the cable or satellite monthly fee - we reveled in the super sharp images on our Toshiba LCD monitor via Samsung set top box (pre on board ATSC tuner)/. However, now that this transition is upon us - I am getting a wider exposure to what many people will be facing. Oh - if you live in a hilly area - or next to a tall structure - or by trees - or in any area that gets a lot of rain - or that gets a lot of ....dry (humor) you ....may not get a sustaining digital signal. Would that it was a cliff effect. Our business - which like many is working twice as hard to stay afloat, now has to pay for cable - to receive a reliable transmission/. Great advance. And what about all the tv guide electronic program guide issues - upon which some depend for the transmission of VBI data (analog) to keep their digital video recorders working? Sure - those playing the good hand can say - stop gripping - go get yourself a souped up Tivo / and introduce yourself to your friendly cable company - but,
I for one am sad to see FREE OVER THE AIR TV - so closely associated with "no signal".

If you got a signal .. enjoy. If you don't ..eat cake.
Barry

I just heard on ABC6 (WLNE) News at 11 PM that all Providence stations will shut off their analog signals on February 17. Any word on if all of the Boston stations shut off on the 17th too?

The Boston channels have chosen to wimp out :(

I think Boston is on till Juned. The providence stations asked the FCC to go off in Feb but got rejected. They have until Friday to promise to jump thruogh a bunch of hoops if they still want to go off on Feb 17. See the last couple pages of this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=823166&page=91

Must say - think this transition deal is just as our British friends might say, a major '****-up".
Any so called advance that causes so many questions / problems has to be by definition not good. For the past few years - living in Narragansett, RI, and utilizing our roof mounted amplified antenna to pull in digital stations from the Prov/New Bedford to Boston areas - I would look at that antenna lovingly as we left the house each morning. Never one who succombed to the 800 (or so) cable channels -not to mention the cable or satellite monthly fee - we reveled in the super sharp images on our Toshiba LCD monitor via Samsung set top box (pre on board ATSC tuner)/. However, now that this transition is upon us - I am getting a wider exposure to what many people will be facing. Oh - if you live in a hilly area - or next to a tall structure - or by trees - or in any area that gets a lot of rain - or that gets a lot of ....dry (humor) you ....may not get a sustaining digital signal. Would that it was a cliff effect. Our business - which like many is working twice as hard to stay afloat, now has to pay for cable - to receive a reliable transmission/. Great advance. And what about all the tv guide electronic program guide issues - upon which some depend for the transmission of VBI data (analog) to keep their digital video recorders working? Sure - those playing the good hand can say - stop gripping - go get yourself a souped up Tivo / and introduce yourself to your friendly cable company - but,
I for one am sad to see FREE OVER THE AIR TV - so closely associated with "no signal".

If you got a signal .. enjoy. If you don't ..eat cake.
Barry
Wow! Are you really sure you are completely out of luck with digital stations? Where do you live? I'm finding it hard to believe that you think you're better off with now or soon to be defunct analog, considering the benefits to most of us receiving OTA digital signals.

This is just in this afternoon from the Providence Journal:

http://newsblog.projo.com/#447990

The FCC has told WNAC FOX 64 to stay on for two weeks after Feb 17th and WLNE ABC 6 for an additional two months after the 17th to broadcast DTV transitional information and local news - no other programming.
Only WJAR NBC 10 and WPRI CBS 12 will shut off the analog on the 17th.

This idea of staying on the air after the original date is a waste of time and money in my opinion.

This is just in this afternoon from the Providence Journal:

http://newsblog.projo.com/#447990

The FCC has told WNAC FOX 64 to stay on for two weeks after Feb 17th and WLNE ABC 6 for an additional two months after the 17th to broadcast DTV transitional information and local news - no other programming.
Only WJAR NBC 10 and WPRI CBS 12 will shut off the analog on the 17th.

This idea of staying on the air after the original date is a waste of time and money in my opinion.

I totally agree, I am sorry but its been what 3 years that they have been waiting to do this. Lets face it those who are not ready now are not going to be ready in June. People have had ample time to make other arangements as far as TV goes. They also have the option of getting the Box to avoid getting some type of subscription service. At this point I have no sympathy for people who are complaining about the digital turnover. People are acting like this was just announced recently its been YEARS in the making.

I am wondering if i could get some support on adding The Weather Channel HD to fall river's Comcast HD Tier?

This has been a channel i have been looking forward to for a long time but my requests and (city citizen's requests to the local Comcast Office) have still been denied :mad:

I am wondering if i could get some support on adding The Weather Channel HD to fall river's Comcast HD Tier?

This has been a channel i have been looking forward to for a long time but my requests and (city citizen's requests to the local Comcast Office) have still been denied :mad:

You may get better feedback if you go to the Boston-COmcast thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=793008&highlight=fall+river

Even though the Providence\Fall RIver markets are close, I think most people here are from RI and thus have Cox for a cable provider. Most likely you will find more support\news in the Boston thread then you would find here.

Hi all,

I thought I saw somewhere that WJAR would terminate analog at midnight on 17feb2009. Well, midnight came and went and they are still broadcasting analog. Any idea why??

Maybe they they meant to say midnight on 18feb2009?

-BL

Hi all,

I thought I saw somewhere that WJAR would terminate analog at midnight on 17feb2009. Well, midnight came and went and they are still broadcasting analog. Any idea why??

Maybe they they meant to say midnight on 18feb2009?

-BL

Yes, Providence analog ends tonight not this morning. I think WJAR and WPRI analog will be off the air and WLNE and WNAC will be broadcasting nightlight transmissions with such programming as instructions on how to connect a converter box. The New London Ion-Pax channel WHPX will also end analog. The FCC list shows WPXQ as already off the air but I still see them, I think they are staying on until June. Here is the FCC's error filled list:
http://www.fcc.gov/021609AttachmentA.pdf

Hi all,

I thought I saw somewhere that WJAR would terminate analog at midnight on 17feb2009. Well, midnight came and went and they are still broadcasting analog. Any idea why??

Maybe they they meant to say midnight on 18feb2009?

-BL

http://www.projo.com/business/content/BZ_DIGITALQA_02-17-09_J9DBH3K_v13.33212cd.html

Channel 10's digital picture during the Noon news (2/17) is quite terrible -- noticeably grainy and looking like it's going through a filter (I'm watching OTA).

Long live analog shutoff! LOL.

Hi all im new to this borad so if i make a mistake im sorry i kept hearing about the DTV switchover and with that you would get more channels like wjar ch10 would add 10.1 10.2 etc so i thought that ment cox itself would be adding the 10.1 10.2 etc to thire line up however that is not the case i spoke with some at cox and they will be not addding 10.1 10.2 to thire line up and i also asked them about WSBE HD and the do not know when that will take place but i read on this fourm that cox would be adding OTA channel to thrie line up cox had no idea what i was talking about but i would like to see The MLB network GO HD Before the Baseball Season Stars.

thank you
Matt:)

Strange how that Providence Journal article never even mentioned WPXQ-TV/DT (ION) of Block Island/Providence. I know people in Providence should get their digital signal on channel 17 (a.k.a. 69-1, 69-2, 69-3 and 69-4). I get their digital signal here in New Britain, CT if I have my indoor antenna pointed the right way.

Speaking of WPXQ-TV/DT, is there a reason why the station isn't licensed to Providence? Also, why is/are their transmitter(s) closer to Connecticut and not Providence or Rehoboth, MA?

Hi all im new to this borad so if i make a mistake im sorry i kept hearing about the DTV switchover and with that you would get more channels like wjar ch10 would add 10.1 10.2 etc so i thought that ment cox itself would be adding the 10.1 10.2 etc to thire line up however that is not the case i spoke with some at cox and they will be not addding 10.1 10.2 to thire line up and i also asked them about WSBE HD and the do not know when that will take place but i read on this fourm that cox would be adding OTA channel to thrie line up cox had no idea what i was talking about but i would like to see The MLB network GO HD Before the Baseball Season Stars.

thank you
Matt:)

Matt and all - we are adding WSBE HD to ch. 708, effective tomorrow. We're also adding WSBE/PBS Learn to ch. 808.

We don't have plans to add NBC 10's new digital channels at this time. I am checking to confirm if and when we will add MLB HD.

Thanks,
Amy Quinn
Director, Public Relations
Cox Communications New England

Here's the TWC lHDl Request page

http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom

Hi All im glad That WSBE-HD Is Launching Tommrow Mabye Lawrence Welk Will Bordcast in HD That would Be neat anyway i heard On Wjar's Website that Cox Is Getting a Netowk called RTN and its alot like tv-land does anyone know what station it will be on i know that they have A launch date of March 1st witch is on a sunday very strgane to launch a channel on a sunday now i also heard that cox on deamd in Rhode Island on March 4th is getting some new Stuff added to it and in order to do that the On Demad is getting a face lift as far as the screen and menus are consernd if someone out thire can shed some light on this matter regaurding the changes to on demand and if the on demand menu will look diffrent once march 4th comes along i would appercite it very mutch again im glad thire im glad to be part of this borad:)

Bye All
Matt:)

With Fox 64 moving to physical 12. it is now my strongest Providence station, slightly better than WPRI 12, physical 13. I am located way down here in Westerly. WSBE 36, physical 21, is still my weakest, by far. Either they are at less than full power, or I am just being missed, directionally.

WSBE-DT is at only 50 kw of power and located on the WJAR-DT tower in Rehoboth. Has there been any difference in reception since the analog shut off Tuesday night on WJAR-DT and WLNE-DT, which also share the same tower?

WSBE-DT is at only 50 kw of power and located on the WJAR-DT tower in Rehoboth. Has there been any difference in reception since the analog shut off Tuesday night on WJAR-DT and WLNE-DT, which also share the same tower?

Both stations, 6.1 and 10.1, seem to be about the same as before the transition.

did abc get rid of the 87.9(or whatever it was) FM station?

WJAR's FCC info indicates that they will raise the digital antenna about 100 feet in the next few months. I don't know if WLNE signal will go with it.
WLNE's FM frequency is actually the channel 6 audio subcarrier frequency so it will be on for two months while they nightlight.
John

WJAR's FCC info indicates that they will raise the digital antenna about 100 feet in the next few months. I don't know if WLNE signal will go with it.
WLNE's FM frequency is actually the channel 6 audio subcarrier frequency so it will be on for two months while they nightlight.
John

hmm, I couldnt pick it up today

What happened, I thought people who are hooked up to cable would not be affected. My Sony recorder which has the TVGOS system no longer shows any program information. The guide information says "no listing" for all entries. It is connected to cable with no STB.

What happened, I thought people who are hooked up to cable would not be affected. My Sony recorder which has the TVGOS system no longer shows any program information. The guide information says "no listing" for all entries. It is connected to cable with no STB.

YOu may need to go through setup again....I just took a look at my feed that goes directly into the TV. My TV is still displaying the TVGOS info as it should.

I am assuming that hooked up by cable means that you have Cox. If not then you are SOL until you get a converterbox or some type of subscription service.

did abc get rid of the 87.9(or whatever it was) FM station?

I think its 87.7, there was some small blurb about it today on thier AM news, but I missed it.

OK here is the link for the video:
http://www.abc6.com/news/rhodeisland/39821967.html

FOr those who cant view it Ill give you a small breakdown. You will ONLY be able to hear the News on this channel for the next ~60 days. Regular programming will not be able to be heard. Once the Digital switch full takes place the channel will go silent. I am guessing this is because 87.7 is linked to the analog transmission of ABC6 not the digital. THey have not announced plans to offer this service in the future so for now enjoy it while you can.

Hi All im a Huge Tunner Classics Movies Fan its a Great Station any way i notice on the freezone section of on demand thire are tcm movies my question is can you get a sedcule of some sort for tcm movies on demand to see witch movies are coming on tcm on demand i did go to the website of tunner classic movies but could not find anyting unless i missed something but on the tunner classic movies website if someone knows where i can get sedcule for the movies playing on tcm on demand i would appcite it very mutch and if you could post a link on here of a secudle that would be great as well


thanks
matt handy

Hi All im a Huge Tunner Classics Movies Fan its a Great Station any way i notice on the freezone section of on demand thire are tcm movies my question is can you get a sedcule of some sort for tcm movies on demand to see witch movies are coming on tcm on demand i did go to the website of tunner classic movies but could not find anyting unless i missed something but on the tunner classic movies website if someone knows where i can get sedcule for the movies playing on tcm on demand i would appcite it very mutch and if you could post a link on here of a secudle that would be great as well


thanks
matt handy

YOu may be able to get a schedule if you send them an email. Most of the time though they usually have the same movies in rotation that they are showing live plus a few extras. Also there may not be a schedule available.

What channel are you receiving the TVGOS (T V Guide On Screen) guide on? What zip code do you use? It is only sent over an analog channel at night and the COX technical support people have never heard of it and say it is not their problem but they keep claiming the switchover will not effect people who have cable. My daughter has also lost it on her recorder. I've heard CBS will be sending over digital channels but maybe not until June.

WLNE DT 6.1/49.1 has been on, I down convert that channel to feed the SD version of 6 on the cable system that I work for and also seen this afternoon when I was messing around with an antenna at my house in CT.
FYI

WLNE DT 6.1/49.1 has been on, I down convert that channel to feed the SD version of 6 on the cable system that I work for and also seen this afternoon when I was messing around with an antenna at my house in CT.
FYI

Yeah my bad, one of my boxes doesn't have it going for some odd reason...not sure why either.

What channel are you receiving the TVGOS (T V Guide On Screen) guide on? What zip code do you use? It is only sent over an analog channel at night and the COX technical support people have never heard of it and say it is not their problem but they keep claiming the switchover will not effect people who have cable. My daughter has also lost it on her recorder. I've heard CBS will be sending over digital channels but maybe not until June.

I have never been able to tell this. I usualy choose my home zip or one of the ones for Providence (try 02903). Since the system will bick it up as Cox.

BTW according to an earlier post CBS will continue to transmit the TVGOS signal via its digital channel as well. IF you dont ahve Cable then youd be SOL without a converter box. COx doesnt really support TVGOS as usualy all they do is pass the signal sent to them. THe reps there will not usually know what it is.

You may want to contact CBS and see if they ahve switched over the TVGOS signal. BTW I still have guide information on my TVGOS interface for my TV. All I have done is put a direct line from the splitter (1 to the box 1 to the TV).

LIN corporate policy is to not carry TVGOS. If you're seeing it, I think it's coming from WSBE-DT.

- Trip

Has anyone else noticed that Cox has been re-mapping their clear QAM channels? It seems they're using standard numbering now, where WJAR-HD is on 10-1, WPRI on 12-1, etc... at least that how their showing up on my flat screen.

-Ted

I think its 87.7, there was some small blurb about it today on thier AM news, but I missed it.

OK here is the link for the video:
http://www.abc6.com/news/rhodeisland/39821967.html

I am guessing this is because 87.7 is linked to the analog transmission of ABC6 not the digital. THey have not announced plans to offer this service in the future so for now enjoy it while you can.
This was not a "service," you were actually picking up the audio subcarrier of analog channel 6, which is just below the start of the FM broadcast band. Some tuners were able to go slightly below 88.1, which is the actual start of the FM broadcast band. Your radio was picking it up because it was able to tune a few kHz below 88.1.

Has anyone else noticed that Cox has been re-mapping their clear QAM channels? It seems they're using standard numbering now, where WJAR-HD is on 10-1, WPRI on 12-1, etc... at least that how their showing up on my flat screen.

-Ted

mine are still in the 70s

This was not a "service," you were actually picking up the audio subcarrier of analog channel 6, which is just below the start of the FM broadcast band. Some tuners were able to go slightly below 88.1, which is the actual start of the FM broadcast band. Your radio was picking it up because it was able to tune a few kHz below 88.1.

No need to nitpick, someone asked a question about 87.7 and I gave them the answer. I couldnt care less about the radio channel personally. I was just trying to be helpful, but I forgot that if you help around here you tend to get nitpicked to death....

Is anyone in the Providence-New Bedford area receiving these stations since last Wednesday? I've always received the analog signals of these stations, but can no longer pick up their digital signals. When WWDP was on ch.52, I received the station fairly well in Pawtucket. They shut off the digital signal sometime December, and supposedly started broadcasting again in digital on ch.10 right after WJAR 10 shut off the analog 10 Tuesday night., but I get absolutely NO signal at all no matter what direction my antenna is pointed to. I could receive WYDN-DT 47 until the beginning of January, since then I get NO signal at all. Anyone else having signal problems with these stations?

Last night I was able to watch the Celtics (away game) on Verizion Fios channel 577 in HD. Up until a few days ago, channel 577 was only on when the Celts played at home. I didn't see any announcement, but did Verizon work out a deal with Comcast?

Fox 64-1 is no longer showing up on my OTA reciever - Is the station down ?

Fox 64-1 is no longer showing up on my OTA reciever - Is the station down ?

Have you done a rescan as they are now DT12 (no longer 54)? That being said my signal strength is less than what it had been for a few weeks now.

I have a uhf only antenna - so I guess I am SOL ??

You might get a signal from a UHF antenna. It depends on how strong the station is at your location. Otherwise look into a VHF high band antenna. They are bigger than UHF but not as large as 2-13 VHF antennas.
John

If anyone who works for COX reads this Forum I would appreciate it if they could find out if,what and when a COX cable channel is/will supply TVGOS (T V Guide On Screen) data.

If anyone who works for COX reads this Forum I would appreciate it if they could find out if,what and when a COX cable channel is/will supply TVGOS (T V Guide On Screen) data.

Cox already passes the TVGOS signal. I am still gettig the TVGOS schedule on my TV. You may need to go through set up again and see if you can grab the schedule again.

I have a uhf only antenna - so I guess I am SOL ??

I beleive along with all other RI channels FOx 64 went all digital last week. THe only things you will be able to get on 64 is information on the transition and news. FOr those that are getting the channels OTA without a digital converter box please look at the following link:
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/02/questions-answe.html#448418
Q&A on tomorrow's digital TV transition
4:14 PM Mon, Feb 16, 2009 | Permalink
C. Eugene Emery Jr. Email
Tomorrow night's the night.

The key players in the Providence-New Bedford television market stop their regular programming on old-fashioned analog signals a minute or so before midnight.

Providence will be the largest TV market in the country to make the switch on the original Feb. 17 deadline, said Channel 12 General Manager Jay Howell. "It's a good test for the whole country."

People with older television sets who still get their signals from an over-the-air antenna will see Channels 12 and 10 disappear.

Channels 6 and 64 will have local news and informational programs showing how to make the conversion to digital TV, a process all the local stations have been talking about for months.

One more thing: On Wednesday, even people who have already installed a converter box and are getting digital reception over the air will need to tell their converter box or digital TV to rescan the channel lineup. (This can usually be done through the Setup menu.)

The reason: Channel 64 will be shifting its digital frequency tomorrow night and you won't find it on its current home after midnight.


This only applies to consumers who get their signals over the airwaves. Most Rhode Islanders won't be affected because they have cable, satellite, or FiOS.

For the stragglers who have neither a digital TV nor a converter box, here's a quick guide to what you need to know.

Q: I thought the government had delayed the switch?

A: Congress and the president gave stations the option of doing it later. The big Rhode Island stations decided to do it now, in part because they believe most people are ready or will be unaffected by the change.

Q: How can I tell if I'm going to be affected?

A: Try to find Channel 36 (the PBS station) or Channel 28 (also known as CW 28) on your television set. They've already made the switch to digital. If you can see its signal, you're in good shape. Just remember to do a new channel scan Wednesday.

Q: Is there another way to tell?

A: Watch Channels 12 and 10. If you're getting constant reminders every 10 minutes or so about tomorrow night's switchover, you're still seeing their analog signal.

Q: What should I do now?

A: If you received a $40 coupon from the government to help cover the cost of a converter, go buy one. Make sure the coupon hasn't expired. You can still get a coupon at 1-888-388-2009 or on the Web at www.DTV2009.gov, but there will be a long wait. The coupon program ran out of money in January and old coupons have to expire before new ones can be sent out.

Q: What if I can't wait?

A: Go to an electronics store and purchase a converter box. They range in price from $40 to $80.

If you watch TV with old-fashioned rabbit ears, you'll also need to buy a new UHF antenna. If you have something better than rabbit ears, see how well your old antenna works with the new setup. You may need a new antenna anyway because the digital signals are not as strong as the old analog ones.

Also, while you're in the store, remember that the converter box and some antennas require an electric outlet, so you may need to buy a power strip.

All converters and antennas come with directions but, in general, the converter box output is plugged into the place where you had the TV antenna (usually your TV or VCR) and your new antenna is plugged into the converter box.

Q: Should I go out and buy a new television?

A: Why spend more money than you need to? The only real reason to replace a working television is if you want to watch shows in high definition. With a high-def TV and a good antenna, you can get extra-sharp over-the-air signals for free.

Q: But I already have a digital TV or I've installed a converter box and I think I'm still looking at the old signals. What's wrong?

A: Use the controls on your TV to rescan the channels. All stations, even those still broadcasting with an analog signal, have digital signals. The re-scan should pick them up. Once again, you should do another scan Wednesday morning when the switchover is complete.

Q: What do I do if I'm still having problems?

A: The Rhode Island Broadcasters Association will have a call center open to troubleshoot any problems you may be having. It will be open tomorrow from noon to 8 p.m. and Wednesday from 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. The number is 854-3636 or, toll free, 1-800-639-0036.

There will also be a walk-in information center, with the same operating hours, at the Channel 36 studios, 50 Park Lane in Providence near the Cranston line.

Some stations are also running their own call centers and walk-in centers, and have information on their Web sites.

Q: Will my picture quality improve after the switch?

A: It may, even if you don't have a digital TV. But if you're getting your signal from cable, you many not notice any improvement.

Q: Does today's transition mean that Rhode Island is one of the first to make the switch?

A: No. Hawaii and Wilmington, N.C., have already done it.

Q: What's this about a shift in frequencies?

A: Channel 64's digital signal, now on Channel 54, will be moving to Channel 12's old frequency. Channel 12's digital signal is -- and will remain -- on Channel 13. This is why you need to have your TV, VCR, converter box, or whichever device acts as your tuner rescan the channel lineup Wednesday morning.

Q: So will Fox64 become Channel 12?

A: Not for your purposes. The frequencies may be changing but the station numbers that you've come to know will remain unchanged.

gemery@projo.com / 277-7442

Cox already passes the TVGOS signal. I am still gettig the TVGOS schedule on my TV. You may need to go through set up again and see if you can grab the schedule again.
You are going to see TVGOS data for eight days even if it is not updating. There is no way I can get this data if I can't find a channel which passes the VBI part of the G* test.

You are going to see TVGOS data for eight days even if it is not updating. There is no way I can get this data if I can't find a channel which passes the VBI part of the G* test.

In RI I beleive its CBS.......THis was discussed earlier in this thread.......

In RI I beleive its CBS.......THis was discussed earlier in this thread.......

LIN corporate policy is to not carry TVGOS. If you're seeing it, I think it's coming from WSBE-DT.

- Trip

- Trip

- Trip

Trip Ive always thought it was WSBE as well, I thought I was corrected earlier in the thread though by someone saying it will be carried by CBS in its digital form (according to a contact that they had at CBS).

As for the TVGOS information, I am still getting updated information and have data up until at least 3/3. My Guide is still going 7-8 days in advance. If there is something specific youd like me to check then I can try to do so, but I dont use the guide so I usually just check and see if I am getting current information.

Just a little extra, arnjohn I have been continuing to get updates since you 1st reported not being able to get information on 12/19. THis has not changed for me. I am still getting information sent to the guide.

Trip Ive always thought it was WSBE as well, I thought I was corrected earlier in the thread though by someone saying it will be carried by CBS in its digital form (according to a contact that they had at CBS).

As for the TVGOS information, I am still getting updated information and have data up until at least 3/3. My Guide is still going 7-8 days in advance. If there is something specific youd like me to check then I can try to do so, but I dont use the guide so I usually just check and see if I am getting current information.

They have a contract for CBS O&O stations like WBZ, and the CBS affiliate in the market gets the first shot at it, but LIN (owner of WPRI and WNAC) has said they will not carry TVGOS in any of their markets. I have some unconfirmed information that WSBE-DT is the affiliate in Providence.

- Trip

They have a contract for CBS O&O stations like WBZ, and the CBS affiliate in the market gets the first shot at it, but LIN (owner of WPRI and WNAC) has said they will not carry TVGOS in any of their markets. I have some unconfirmed information that WSBE-DT is the affiliate in Providence.

- Trip

Thanks Trip, when I was first looking into this (TVGOS) I had found information that the analog TVOGS info was sent via WSBE, but since people started to have trouble again I was not sure if they had decided to do TVGOS in Digital as well.

I am thinking though that people may need to do the set up again to "re-sync" the guide. I have had the no information before and doing the set up has fixed this for me.

When I do the 753159852 test the firmware status is 08.01.42/08.06.44/00.00.00/0000012C/64/0000. When I do the G* factory test it says Version: 08.01.42. Is the G* test supposed to be Version 08.06.44 in order to work with a digital channel? I am reluctant to do the Reset to Factory Default because I do not have an analog channel to update the firmware.

Fox 64-1 is no longer showing up on my OTA reciever - Is the station down ?

Have you done a rescan as they are now DT12 (no longer 54)? That being said my signal strength is less than what it had been for a few weeks now.

I lost it last week after luckily having it for a month. I did rescans on my CECB, TivoHD, and flatscreen, and have not been able to re-aquire. Maybe it was just an anomoly because I'm about 53 miles away in MA. Once I get a new ant up outside late spring I'll be able to get it again.

WSBE said that they are putting TVGOS data on their digital channel 36.1 but they do not know what COX puts out on channels 8 and 7008. I can not get 36.1 OTA in Charlestown so I can not confirm it.

Thanks Trip, when I was first looking into this (TVGOS) I had found information that the analog TVOGS info was sent via WSBE, but since people started to have trouble again I was not sure if they had decided to do TVGOS in Digital as well.

I am thinking though that people may need to do the set up again to "re-sync" the guide. I have had the no information before and doing the set up has fixed this for me.

Do you have a QAM tuner connected to COX cable? I take it you have no way to tell where your TVGOS is coming from.

Do you have a QAM tuner connected to COX cable? I take it you have no way to tell where your TVGOS is coming from.

Yes its a QAM tuner and you are also correct I have no way to tell where the signal is coming from. All I have ever had to d with any of my units with TVGOS is to go through the TVGOS setup to grab the dignal again. My TV is what comes with TVGOS and all I do is go to the TVGOS set up section and re enter all the information as new. THis will reset the TVOGS settings and have it try to grab the signal again. Once done it gives you a choice of channel listings.

For those that missed it, MLB HD is now active on channel 586. Also Comcast Sports Net HD has finally gone full time on channel 577, so Celtics away games in HD :)

Hi all i wanted to come one here today to get some Questions Answerd and i hope someone can Help me With them


1. Does Anyone Know What Channel RTN network Will be on When it Launches this Sunday ?

2. I heard that new content is being added to Cox On Demand and that once this happens on Demamd is getting a new look is this true the content is sposued to be added to cox on demand on March 4th 2009

3. what if any pograms are in HD on CMT HD CH 761 so far i have not seen any Programs In HD on CMT HD and the funny part is when you put the guide on in the yellow box in the left hand cornner where it gives the channel and Program info thire is a HDTV logo On the Progam info but the Program is not in HD

4 final Question
any word on MLB HD coming to cox in Rhode Island


again if someone out thrie can help me with the Question i posted i would apptire it very mutch again thank you for you help in advance


Matt Handy

Hi all i wanted to come one here today to get some Questions Answerd and i hope someone can Help me With them


1. Does Anyone Know What Channel RTN network Will be on When it Launches this Sunday ?

2. I heard that new content is being added to Cox On Demand and that once this happens on Demamd is getting a new look is this true the content is sposued to be added to cox on demand on March 4th 2009

3. what if any pograms are in HD on CMT HD CH 761 so far i have not seen any Programs In HD on CMT HD and the funny part is when you put the guide on in the yellow box in the left hand cornner where it gives the channel and Program info thire is a HDTV logo On the Progam info but the Program is not in HD

4 final Question
any word on MLB HD coming to cox in Rhode Island


again if someone out thrie can help me with the Question i posted i would apptire it very mutch again thank you for you help in advance


Matt Handy

1. According to Amy it will be on Channel 810

2. No one would know if this is actually true except for COx themselves, it still could get pushed. I do know however that this week both of my boxes were "updated" but nothing different is showing right now. We will have to wait until nexxt week to find out.

3. You will probably want to head over the the HDTV Programming forum and search for CMT. The program data is not generated by Cox and thus the HDTV tags can be off. I dont watch that channel so I cant tell you what if anything is in HD.

4. I have not heard anything regarding MLB HD, Amy was checking on it as of her last post or so.

My last post on TVGOS. My daughter who has COX analog service without an STB and a Toshiba RD-XS35 dvr/dvd recorder which has TVGOS and only an analog tuner is now SOL. She has talked to a Toshiba TVGOS expert who has told her they are trying to convince cable operators to put the TVGOS data on at least one analog channel. I would think Cox channel 4 would be a good candidate.

Hey all,

Good news, some in response to what this group has been discussing. See below for a list of five new HD channels being added April 1 ... and no, this is not an April Fool's joke!

NBA HD, ch. 713
Biography HD, ch. 739
Fox Business HD, ch. 767
MLB HD, ch. 768
PPV Events HD, ch. 799

Sports, culture and news ... hope this meets many of your interests. Now, I don't normally post channel additions this early, but we've been assured as far as assurances go that these are definite. IF there are any changes, I beg for your forgiveness now! :rolleyes:

Hey all,

Good news, some in response to what this group has been discussing. See below for a list of five new HD channels being added April 1 ... and no, this is not an April Fool's joke!

NBA HD, ch. 713
Biography HD, ch. 739
Fox Business HD, ch. 767
MLB HD, ch. 768
PPV Events HD, ch. 799

Sports, culture and news ... hope this meets many of your interests. Now, I don't normally post channel additions this early, but we've been assured as far as assurances go that these are definite. IF there are any changes, I beg for your forgiveness now! :rolleyes:


Amy,

THanks for the heads up I have been waiting for HD PPV events for some time now. Boxingwithout HD is just not boxing ;) .....Now if we could only work on the HD Nets ;) :D I think my list would be basically complete. As for changes I would hope people would reaslize that agreements\plans change they do for ALL providers. Its just nice to know that there is more coming.

My last post on TVGOS. My daughter who has COX analog service without an STB and a Toshiba RD-XS35 dvr/dvd recorder which has TVGOS and only an analog tuner is now SOL. She has talked to a Toshiba TVGOS expert who has told her they are trying to convince cable operators to put the TVGOS data on at least one analog channel. I would think Cox channel 4 would be a good candidate.

Arn, it owuld only be good until July though since the "full" move will be made then. I am not sure a company is going to pass the signal for a few months, but thats JMHO. I know there are those out there that are still with analog equipment, but this converstion has been years in the making. It sucks I know, I KNOW people right now that are goign to get cable to continue to get service. In the end though this will be better for everyone.

My cox DVR cable box updated itself 2am feb25th with new software. When it came back on my 42" Sharp Aquos had a very bright and annoying verticle green line on the right side on every channel. On the left side was a verticle blurry line, or pixlelized line, i dont know what to call it, but it was hardly noticeable.

i rulled out my hdmi cable by switching to my other one.
i rulled out my hdmi input on the tv by sticking the blue-ray in it.
so it must be that my tv is no longer supported with the new cox software.

Cable Box# DTC6416 III
Sharp Aquos TV# LC42D64U

thx 4 your help, reply here
The dreaded green line virus (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1124772)

My cox DVR cable box updated itself 2am feb25th with new software. When it came back on my 42" Sharp Aquos had a very bright and annoying verticle green line on the right side on every channel. On the left side was a verticle blurry line, or pixlelized line, i dont know what to call it, but it was hardly noticeable.

i rulled out my hdmi cable by switching to my other one.
i rulled out my hdmi input on the tv by sticking the blue-ray in it.
so it must be that my tv is no longer supported with the new cox software.

Cable Box# DTC6416 III
Sharp Aquos TV# LC42D64U

thx 4 your help

I HIGHLY doubt that your TV is no longer supported. Have you tried the basiscs? Unlug the box for about 1 minute then plug it back in? Make sure that all the settings for the Box are correct for your set (screen resolution). HAve COx tech support send your box a signal? Do you have another TV you can test to see if the same green line shows up?

I am guessing that the green line does not appear when you have other devices connected to it via the SAME input correct? The box might be "toast" as this happens sometimes especially with older boxes.

Arn, it owuld only be good until July though since the "full" move will be made then. I am not sure a company is going to pass the signal for a few months, but thats JMHO. I know there are those out there that are still with analog equipment, but this converstion has been years in the making. It sucks I know, I KNOW people right now that are goign to get cable to continue to get service. In the end though this will be better for everyone.

COX has promised to continue having analog channels for 3 years after June. Nothing prevents them from putting the TVGOS data on channel 3 or 4 themselves.

I HIGHLY doubt that your TV is no longer supported. Have you tried the basiscs? Unlug the box for about 1 minute then plug it back in? Make sure that all the settings for the Box are correct for your set (screen resolution). HAve COx tech support send your box a signal? Do you have another TV you can test to see if the same green line shows up?

I am guessing that the green line does not appear when you have other devices connected to it via the SAME input correct? The box might be "toast" as this happens sometimes especially with older boxes.

yea, had a tech come by with another box and it also had the green line

COX has promised to continue having analog channels for 3 years after June. Nothing prevents them from putting the TVGOS data on channel 3 or 4 themselves.

Actually if the analog signal is no longer offered then they cant pass it along. Cox is not the provider of the TVOGS signal they pass it along from WSBE (I believe). If WSBE no longer is offering an analog signal then there is nothing Cox can do.........You may want to ask WSBE how long they plan to pass the analog signal (if they havent stopped already).

yea, had a tech come by with another box and it also had the green line

Very strange that it would only happen with the cable box. I have 2 different Tvs and both have never had this issue...Have you tried using a different input (component, direct line, ect) to see if you still get the green line? It almost seems as if the overscan is off or something.

I am guessing this only happens with HD channels? From the google searches I did tthose with the green line issue had it only occur when in HD mode....

DO you have another HDMI port on the TV to test?

YOu may actually be correct, but its not the Box its the software update that Cox did that made you TV have the green Line. I saw other simillar reports from FIOS customers when I Googled it and supposedly with the 1.6IMG update the problem went away. People changed the Resolution to 720p as an interm fix for this issue until the updates were complete.
Check out this link (http://www.highdefforum.com/archive/t-62994.html) for more information tips. THe thread is generally about FIOS, but the fixes seem to be "GLobal" (besides the firmware update that is).

Hi first i want to say i like this forum its very informative..I do have a question about high def. on my tv i can set the high def to 480p and to 1080i but when i try the 720p my picture spilts on the screen into 3 pictures is there a way to fix this??? (im not an expert like everyone on here so any help would be appreciated)

Hi all Fiirst off rtn nework is great but i wish they would have more sticoms like 227 or denis the menice or maybe dick van dyke any way im writting today to ask what ever happend to HBO-HD on demand cimamx on dmead has max HD showtime has a hd section but for some reason HBO-HD got rid of thire about a year ago and the other thing i want to say is does anyone know why they got rid of the seach feature for on demad it was a very useful tool so i dont know why they would take it away

have a good day all
Matt

Hi all Fiirst off rtn nework is great but i wish they would have more sticoms like 227 or denis the menice or maybe dick van dyke any way im writting today to ask what ever happend to HBO-HD on demand cimamx on dmead has max HD showtime has a hd section but for some reason HBO-HD got rid of thire about a year ago and the other thing i want to say is does anyone know why they got rid of the seach feature for on demad it was a very useful tool so i dont know why they would take it away

have a good day all
Matt

Matt,

HBO decided to take HBO-HD OnDemand away.....I know you are new and all, but a quick search in the HDTV programming sectgion owuld of given you the answer......

As far as RTN programming again, this would be something you would take up with the network.

does anyone know when tv caller id coming out?
also any luck in getting the weather channel in hd
along with a better on screen cable tv guide?
what about milti room dvrs?
as usual verizon why a head of the game

does anyone know when tv caller id coming out?
also any luck in getting the weather channel in hd
along with a better on screen cable tv guide?
what about milti room dvrs?
as usual verizon why a head of the game

I believe COx is testing Caller ID in other markets, but dont hold me to it. I thought I saw something posted over at dslreports about it.

WeatherChannel HD, I have not heard anything on this for the New England market. Since a few other markets for Cox have it, its probably only a matter of time.

Cox is testing TiVO right now, but there is no ETA on its release. As far as another IPG I am not aware of a change (besides little tweaks here and there). Right now I dont ahve issues with the current one.

Multi Room DVRS is something I believe again Cox is working on, cant be positive and it is all rumors until confirmed.

If you want FIOS so much switch, each have thier positives and negatives. Both have channels the other does not. For me If I was trully unhappy with COx I would switch without a hesatation. I have followed FIOS since before it was out in our area, and I like thier service offerings a lot. Right now though I just cant do it, but in a few months I will take a look again and make a decision. GOing into it though I know what I am giving up and what I am gaining.

Hi i dont know if anyone notice but on the settings menu on the guide right bellow the my prefeces they have a caller id logo i dont know what the deal is if its avable in new enlgand or not if not it must be on its way soon


matt

Hi all Just wanted to post this messgae i just got off the phone with someone form cox they say that the caller id featue will be avable in ri on march 17 2009 accroing to the person i spoke to thire is no extra fee and it the feture will only work with phones concted to cox cable


matt:)

Macrovision is selling the TV Guide channel and T V Guide On Line (TVGOS) Lionsgate Entertainment. (http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-macrovision-backtracks-on-tv-guide-network-sale-to-one-equity-partners-/) This T V Guide channel is on most cable systems on an analog channel (COX I’m sure of). I don’t understand why Macrovision didn’t put TVGOS on this channel and solved all cable related TVGOS problems for equipment that tunes just analog and equipment which handles both digital or analog. I hope Lionsgate will do this.

what happened to cox weather channel 800? :eek:

what happened to cox weather channel 800? :eek:

It was never Cox weather on Channel 800. It was NBC WeatherPlus and it ceased operations. Its been gone since December\January timeframe.

See when it was annoounced by Amy back in on 12/10:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15266260#post15266260

nbc weatherplus sucked anyway

I just saw a ad on tv land
"cox inside tip for tv caller id"
"did you know that know your cox digital services now work together? now if you phone
rings while your watching tv you won't miss a single second of your favorate looking for your phone because you'll see whos calling calling right on your tv and once you know
who's call you will know if you need to take the call and best of all its free and easy with cox digital cable and cox digital phone"
coming march 30th
how funnny I called cox earlier to day and asked why there
was a caller ID setting on my DVR/HD box was told I have no infomation
why its in the box but its something we do not offer yet and there is no plans
at this time to offer it.
was this a cox worker beeing secretive and cox just realessed that info tonight
or was it the worker did not know if so i understand if it was to be secretive but what
happens if someone calls and the worker really does not know.if so I hope all the cox workers get notice of this new feature

I just saw a ad on tv land
"cox inside tip for tv caller id"
"did you know that know your cox digital services now work together? now if you phone
rings while your watching tv you won't miss a single second of your favorate looking for your phone because you'll see whos calling calling right on your tv and once you know
who's call you will know if you need to take the call and best of all its free and easy with cox digital cable and cox digital phone"
coming march 30th
how funnny I called cox earlier to day and asked why there
was a caller ID setting on my DVR/HD box was told I have no infomation
why its in the box but its something we do not offer yet and there is no plans
at this time to offer it.
was this a cox worker beeing secretive and cox just realessed that info tonight
or was it the worker did not know if so i understand if it was to be secretive but what
happens if someone calls and the worker really does not know.if so I hope all the cox workers get notice of this new feature

Its most likely 1 of 2 things.

A) THe Rep really didnt know and was giving the basic COx line on unreleased products.

or
B) The Rep hasnt looked through thier new product information\alerts to knwo that it is coming. Take a look a few posts before yours as someone else called and was told its coming.

Have to remember Reps are people too and there will be good ones and bad ones. With the amount of training and the proccess that Cox Reps go through though most are good.

Hey all,

Figured I'd respond to these questions in one fell swoop ...

We are actively testing TV CID and expect to launch it very soon. The March 17th date is not confirmed. Customers will need to have Digital Cable, Cox Digital Telephone and Caller ID. The service is a FREE enhancement. It will be active on all TVs in the household with a digital set-top box. Settings, including disabling the service, are managed through your remote. More specifics to come, I promise.

We are also actively testing remote DVR and are working with Motorola on Multi-room. I don't have launch dates on either, unfortunately.

Weather HD: We don't have any plans to launch. "Local on the 8s" is not offered on their HD feed anywhere. That is a big component of what customers like about TWC. If we launched it, you would no longer enjoy that service.

Keep the questions coming!!

WJAR NBC 10 recently started showing the 4th hour of the today show in HD. I was wondering how they are able to do this. Do they now have the technology to record and play back programs in HD? They are still not showing any syndicated HD, but I wasn't sure if this was different. It would be nice to see them start catching up to WPRI. Thanks

hi amy thakns for the info regaing the caller id on tv its going to be neat any way you had said in you posting that cox is trying remote dvr what is that doesnt i thought cox allreay has dvr service or its it a newer box or somthing and im glad PPV evets are coming in HD Now i can watch WWE events IN HD :)





thanks again
matt

WJAR NBC 10 recently started showing the 4th hour of the today show in HD. I was wondering how they are able to do this. Do they now have the technology to record and play back programs in HD? They are still not showing any syndicated HD, but I wasn't sure if this was different. It would be nice to see them start catching up to WPRI. Thanks

WHDH has been doing this for awhile,even before REgis and Kelly went HD. (which WHDH does show in HD and LIVe at 9 as well,WJAR shows it on a delay at 10)

HI amy
with the tv caller Id will we also be able to see our e-mail and look up ourt cable bills through the box as well. I see the oklahoma cable system can
view your email on TV,pay your cable bill using the remote control,news & info,lottery look up,ect is it something we will ever see? I can assume not but hope so as it would be great to see more itv services

Anyone else out there having trouble picking up FOX these days from WNAC? After losing reception completely after the digital crossover, I had a discussion with the program manager and i guess they had changed the frequency that it was broadcasting on. I rescanned channels and it was coming in for a few days to a week, but now it's stopped again. Are they moving things around still, or am I just an isolated incident?

Anyone else out there having trouble picking up FOX these days from WNAC? After losing reception completely after the digital crossover, I had a discussion with the program manager and i guess they had changed the frequency that it was broadcasting on. I rescanned channels and it was coming in for a few days to a week, but now it's stopped again. Are they moving things around still, or am I just an isolated incident?

I had it for the first time around the beginning of February for a couple of weeks then lost it completely around Feb 19th. Just got it back about a week ago. :cool: I'm roughly 50 miles away in MA.

Since the digital conversion WNAC has the strongest signal for me in southern RI. Before i rarely could pull it in!

hi amy thakns for the info regaing the caller id on tv its going to be neat any way you had said in you posting that cox is trying remote dvr what is that doesnt i thought cox allreay has dvr service or its it a newer box or somthing and im glad PPV evets are coming in HD Now i can watch WWE events IN HD :)





thanks again
matt

Sorry, Matt. I was too quick with the acronym. "Remote DVR" is remote DVR scheduler - where you'll be able to schedule your DVR recordings through your cell phone. We are testing it now, but I don't have a launch date.

HI amy
with the tv caller Id will we also be able to see our e-mail and look up ourt cable bills through the box as well. I see the oklahoma cable system can
view your email on TV,pay your cable bill using the remote control,news & info,lottery look up,ect is it something we will ever see? I can assume not but hope so as it would be great to see more itv services

I will check with product development on this and let you know!

On 2/17/09 WNAC changed channels from 54 to WPRI's old analog signal 12. WNAC has an out put power of 26kw and has approval from the FCC to increase the power to 30kw on 6/12/09. WPRI is currently at 18kw and has applied to the FCC to increase to 30kw. We have found some issues with TV's and converter boxes that would not see the change after a rescan. If this happens a reset to factory default and rescan will help with this issue. I have attached two maps of our coverage as you can see the WNAC coverage has increased dramatical from what the analog was.